WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.840 --> 00:00:04.599 This show is produced and hosted by Mark Webber. The show is sponsored by 2 00:00:04.639 --> 00:00:07.919 G three of Parow. The views expressed in the following program are those of 3 00:00:08.039 --> 00:00:15.439 the sponsor and not necessarily the opinion of seven tenor or iHeartMedia. Who is 4 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:19.879 Mark Weber. He's a self made business executive here to help you find your 5 00:00:19.960 --> 00:00:24.600 success, from the New York City projects to the Avenue Montaigne in Paris. 6 00:00:24.760 --> 00:00:30.000 His global success story in the luxury world of fashion is inspirational. He's gone 7 00:00:30.039 --> 00:00:36.560 from clerk to CEO twice. Mark his classic proof that the American dream is 8 00:00:36.600 --> 00:00:41.359 alive. And well, here's your host of Always in Fashion, Mark Weber. 9 00:00:41.439 --> 00:00:46.640 Mark Weber. I've been thinking, actually, I've been thinking a lot. 10 00:00:47.560 --> 00:00:51.840 Confluence of the events got me thinking. But before I go there, 11 00:00:52.679 --> 00:00:56.200 by the way, here's my lawyer, my co host, my son, 12 00:00:56.320 --> 00:00:59.799 Jesse Weber. He's here tonight. Nice of you to come, Jesse. 13 00:01:00.320 --> 00:01:03.520 I think you introduced me so quickly this time because you were afraid I was 14 00:01:03.560 --> 00:01:10.400 gonna run away. I'm like, I look, I love doing I love 15 00:01:10.480 --> 00:01:14.599 doing this, I love I love doing this show. I'm sorry, I'm 16 00:01:14.599 --> 00:01:18.079 busy. I get caught up in things. Last week wasn't my fault last 17 00:01:18.079 --> 00:01:21.920 week? Wasn't what's more important than this show? You know how busy I 18 00:01:22.079 --> 00:01:25.840 was. Look, nothing's more important the show. But did I have quite 19 00:01:25.840 --> 00:01:30.280 an experience? Absolutely? Do you know where I was? I wasn't in 20 00:01:30.560 --> 00:01:34.879 New York City. No, I was in Nashville, Tennessee. Do you 21 00:01:34.920 --> 00:01:37.959 know what I was doing in Nashville, Tennessee? Thoy, I couldn't know 22 00:01:38.159 --> 00:01:45.359 the audience. I was at Crime Con. Crime Con. It's a giant 23 00:01:45.519 --> 00:01:51.120 convention for people who are interested in true crime. Six thousand people and I 24 00:01:51.319 --> 00:01:53.840 spoke in front of a panel. How many of the six thousand are actually 25 00:01:53.959 --> 00:01:59.959 murderers? Do you think? Honestly? Everybody was amazing. Everybody's super nice. 26 00:02:00.239 --> 00:02:02.359 Everybody you know what it is? You think everybody's weird. Everybody comes 27 00:02:02.400 --> 00:02:05.319 up to me and they know what The number one thing they say to me 28 00:02:05.400 --> 00:02:08.039 is thank you so much for what you do. They are all invested in 29 00:02:08.120 --> 00:02:12.360 these cases. They want justice for the people. And I spoke on a 30 00:02:12.400 --> 00:02:15.919 panel two thousand people. I spoke in front of two thousand people. I 31 00:02:15.960 --> 00:02:19.879 sent you the picture. How crazy? What is the purpose of the convention 32 00:02:20.599 --> 00:02:25.280 for those who are interested in true crime documentaries? Stories, reporting shows. 33 00:02:25.840 --> 00:02:30.439 This is a convention where you can go and you listen to panels about different 34 00:02:30.439 --> 00:02:35.000 subjects, different cases that are happening. You can also meet the people that 35 00:02:35.039 --> 00:02:38.000 you've been following. It's you can buy merchandise. It's like a comic con 36 00:02:38.159 --> 00:02:42.159 but for people who are interested in the true crime community, and it's really 37 00:02:42.159 --> 00:02:46.879 good at panels like there. I was there for the Law Crime Network as 38 00:02:46.879 --> 00:02:51.919 their anchor and reporter, and I was part of two panels. One panel 39 00:02:52.039 --> 00:02:55.120 was talking about Scott Peterson because there was a possibility he might get a new 40 00:02:55.159 --> 00:02:59.680 trial, and me and my co host Anjeanette Levy, we spoke on a 41 00:02:59.680 --> 00:03:02.319 panel, talked all about the evidence in the case, the new developments, 42 00:03:02.680 --> 00:03:06.759 and literally two thousand people were listening to what we were saying. It was 43 00:03:06.800 --> 00:03:10.680 incredible. And then I spoke on another panel where I was moderating one about 44 00:03:10.759 --> 00:03:16.439 America's Greatest Detective. Three incredible detectives, one of them won the award of 45 00:03:16.439 --> 00:03:21.319 America's Greatest Detective at an awards show later that night, and we just learned 46 00:03:21.319 --> 00:03:23.680 a little bit more about what they do, the cases they work on, 47 00:03:23.719 --> 00:03:27.840 and the audience was fantastic. They love them and then we had a booth, 48 00:03:27.879 --> 00:03:30.960 a law on crime booth where people got to meet me, got to 49 00:03:30.000 --> 00:03:34.560 meet my co host, and we were selling merchandise. It was great, 50 00:03:34.599 --> 00:03:38.800 taking photos, signing autographs. It was an incredible experience. Whoa whoa, 51 00:03:38.840 --> 00:03:42.360 whoa, whoa whoa. People knew who you were, people knew who I 52 00:03:42.439 --> 00:03:45.919 was. I'm not going to sugarcoat this. I go outside here in New 53 00:03:46.000 --> 00:03:49.159 York City, no one beats an eye. I'm at this thing. I'm 54 00:03:49.199 --> 00:03:53.199 like the Justin Bieber of this community. It was shocking, shocking. My 55 00:03:53.280 --> 00:03:57.800 wife was there, she accompanied me, and she said, this is like 56 00:03:57.840 --> 00:04:00.560 an alternate reality where you're a celebrity. That's exactly what it was like. 57 00:04:00.599 --> 00:04:04.680 I was taking pictures, signing autographs. People were saying the nicest stuff. 58 00:04:04.719 --> 00:04:09.520 It was really, really complimentary, and I loved meeting everybody. So you 59 00:04:09.599 --> 00:04:13.800 felt like a big shot, a movie star, rockstock. Did I feel 60 00:04:14.280 --> 00:04:16.519 like I mattered? Did I feel like I was important? Absolutely? But 61 00:04:16.680 --> 00:04:20.279 I'm telling you the most rewarding thing is when people came up to me and 62 00:04:20.319 --> 00:04:25.519 say, I love your show, I love your reporting, thank you for 63 00:04:25.600 --> 00:04:28.879 what you do, thank you for bringing attention to this subject or that one. 64 00:04:29.199 --> 00:04:31.240 I mean what more could you want from hearing that may I'd prefer the 65 00:04:31.279 --> 00:04:35.480 autographs. The autographs were great. Actually, one of the coolest things was 66 00:04:35.560 --> 00:04:41.439 somebody came up to me. I met them first last year at last year's 67 00:04:41.439 --> 00:04:46.319 crime Con. They had a scrapbook of pictures that I took with them from 68 00:04:46.399 --> 00:04:49.439 last year and then they wanted me to sign it. So it was it 69 00:04:49.480 --> 00:04:54.279 was pretty cool to say, all right, I'll forgive you for not being 70 00:04:54.319 --> 00:04:57.240 here, and that is your daytime job, so I would say to you 71 00:04:57.279 --> 00:05:00.439 should be there rather than But I was excited for you. Got to feel 72 00:05:00.480 --> 00:05:04.399 what it's like to be someone who matters, and I really like that. 73 00:05:04.519 --> 00:05:08.279 Good for you, Jesse, Yeah, because you give me no validation, 74 00:05:08.480 --> 00:05:11.480 so I need it from other places. Yeah, yeah, Yeah. How 75 00:05:11.519 --> 00:05:15.040 was the show? How was the show? You were gone for two weeks. 76 00:05:15.079 --> 00:05:17.399 I think one was good, one was amazing. The one that was 77 00:05:17.439 --> 00:05:20.720 good could have been better. But I you know, I'm doing my thing. 78 00:05:20.759 --> 00:05:24.759 I'm okay, but anyway, and I'm glad you asked because I want 79 00:05:24.759 --> 00:05:26.759 to get back to me. Too much time on you. I want to 80 00:05:26.759 --> 00:05:30.560 get back to me in New York City anyway. So while you were gone, 81 00:05:30.120 --> 00:05:35.199 I went to an event this week, charity event by an organization called 82 00:05:35.240 --> 00:05:42.399 the two to ten Footwear Foundation. It's an organization that cares for people in 83 00:05:42.399 --> 00:05:46.920 the footwear industry. They actually take care of their own, those who are 84 00:05:46.000 --> 00:05:53.600 need and distress and despair. And every five years, a powerful person who 85 00:05:53.639 --> 00:05:59.240 demonstrates a deep compassion for people in their companies or in the world around them 86 00:05:59.360 --> 00:06:03.199 is honored by the two ten Foundation and all their members coming like you, 87 00:06:03.319 --> 00:06:09.240 There were thousands of people there raising money, giving donations, and all of 88 00:06:09.360 --> 00:06:13.560 honor of a select person who's given this award. And this award is given 89 00:06:13.560 --> 00:06:18.319 out every five years. I had been there before. My career has spanned 90 00:06:18.319 --> 00:06:24.120 many genres and products, and over time I was involved with brands and designer 91 00:06:24.199 --> 00:06:30.199 shoes and I was invited by my son Jarreeded to accompany him and this night, 92 00:06:30.319 --> 00:06:34.959 in particular, I knew the recipient of this prestigious honor. Now hold 93 00:06:35.000 --> 00:06:41.360 that thought, I'll get out early. It's a beautiful sunny day this week. 94 00:06:42.000 --> 00:06:45.800 I'm driving with the top down and cooling. The gang comes on the 95 00:06:45.879 --> 00:06:49.279 radio seeing its ladies' night. It's lateies night. Oh what a night, 96 00:06:50.199 --> 00:06:53.399 And here I am going to this event. I have the song in my 97 00:06:53.480 --> 00:06:59.240 head and back to the two ten Awards ceremony songs in my head. The 98 00:06:59.240 --> 00:07:04.120 award RECIPI is actually a woman named Diane Sullivan who's executive chairman of a company 99 00:07:04.160 --> 00:07:11.720 called Cholaris. If memory serves me right, this confluence of the song in 100 00:07:11.759 --> 00:07:16.399 my head and the award for Diane Sullivan got me thinking about women of great 101 00:07:16.439 --> 00:07:23.600 success and substance, and that's what I started to think about. Now here 102 00:07:23.600 --> 00:07:27.680 we are. The two ten group is sponsoring the event at the Glasshouse, 103 00:07:28.000 --> 00:07:32.839 which is an amazing facility on twelfth Avenue at forty seventh and forty eighth Street, 104 00:07:33.199 --> 00:07:39.360 remarkable indoor outdoor terror structure. I'm looking out over the Hudson River, 105 00:07:39.759 --> 00:07:43.319 the sun is setting. I'm waiting for my son to join me, and 106 00:07:43.360 --> 00:07:47.639 it hits me Ladies' Night. I've worked with amazing women over the course of 107 00:07:47.680 --> 00:07:53.319 my career, and I'm going to devote a show to the ladies i've worked 108 00:07:53.319 --> 00:07:57.920 with, so tonight it's actually Ladies' Night. But back to the two ten 109 00:07:58.079 --> 00:08:03.519 charity. I know no one now you want to talk about being an event 110 00:08:03.560 --> 00:08:05.839 with two thousand people by yourself waiting for my son. The only person I 111 00:08:05.879 --> 00:08:11.639 know could be awkward, but this is the way it was because shoes were 112 00:08:11.639 --> 00:08:13.800 always on the perfume of my career and I didn't know anybody there. The 113 00:08:13.839 --> 00:08:18.600 industry changed, the people are younger. All I could do is try and 114 00:08:18.639 --> 00:08:20.639 look my best and wait for Jared. And of course, you know, 115 00:08:20.720 --> 00:08:24.920 package is as important as the products you package. There. I am Navy 116 00:08:26.000 --> 00:08:31.120 double breasted blazer with silver buttons, Ralph gray worsted Canali pants, white Thomas 117 00:08:31.159 --> 00:08:35.519 pink dress shirt opened at the collar, Tiffany's stainless steel cuff links with my 118 00:08:35.600 --> 00:08:41.559 initials on them, Rolex Batman to match the jacket, black Montoni loafers. 119 00:08:41.360 --> 00:08:46.159 I looked upart, although I must have looked like a fish out of water. 120 00:08:46.399 --> 00:08:48.120 I'm sure people noticed me with my long hair. They didn't know who 121 00:08:48.159 --> 00:08:52.080 I was, but I was alone, so it was a little weird. 122 00:08:52.320 --> 00:08:54.960 Anyway, Jared shows up. He knows all the power brokers. Jesse, 123 00:08:56.039 --> 00:08:58.799 I tell you this story. You didn't tell me the story, but you 124 00:08:58.840 --> 00:09:01.639 sent me the picture of you guys night. You looked. I'm not gonna 125 00:09:01.679 --> 00:09:05.679 sugarcoat it. You look fantastic. Did you post it on are Always in 126 00:09:05.759 --> 00:09:09.519 Fashion page? Yeah, it's on the website. Everybody check it out. 127 00:09:09.960 --> 00:09:13.000 It's on Instagram. So Jared he shows up. He knows all the powerbrokers, 128 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:18.519 the CEO of DSW, the son and founder Seth Campbell of the organization 129 00:09:18.840 --> 00:09:22.559 for which we were at, one of the top guys at Aldo, and 130 00:09:22.679 --> 00:09:26.759 Jared introduces me to all of them. They're polite, but it's funny. 131 00:09:26.799 --> 00:09:30.759 I shook hands and I can see in their eyes. No one cared to 132 00:09:30.840 --> 00:09:33.399 meet me. No one knew who was. Nobody cared who I was. 133 00:09:33.879 --> 00:09:37.440 That's life. People seeing through me like I'm Cellophane. Hey, I used 134 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:41.600 to be important. Nobody knew. So I'm hanging out waiting for the ceremony 135 00:09:41.679 --> 00:09:46.960 to begin. It's ladies night for the show in my head. Then out 136 00:09:46.960 --> 00:09:52.039 of nowhere, the lady herself, the recipient of the evening's award, is 137 00:09:52.120 --> 00:09:56.279 right in front of me, Diane Sullivan, and she says, Mark Weber, 138 00:09:56.320 --> 00:10:01.360 what are you doing here? I'm here for you. No, Mark, 139 00:10:01.679 --> 00:10:05.879 what are you really here to honor you? And with that she walks 140 00:10:05.919 --> 00:10:09.399 away, doesn't look back, says another word in heads for the podium for 141 00:10:09.440 --> 00:10:13.120 that award, I want to talk about awkward. She couldn't wait to get 142 00:10:13.159 --> 00:10:16.000 away from me. I haven't been blown off in a while, so I 143 00:10:16.120 --> 00:10:20.000 kind of got a kick out of it. I laughed. A thousand people 144 00:10:20.039 --> 00:10:24.879 there and the most significant on the night has absolutely no use for me. 145 00:10:24.639 --> 00:10:30.279 I smiled. But there's a backstory and Jared's stand. He sees what happens, 146 00:10:30.279 --> 00:10:33.159 says what's that about? I said, human nature, and it actually 147 00:10:33.200 --> 00:10:39.720 is an interesting story. Diane Sullivan tonight sonoree, executive chairman and board member 148 00:10:39.759 --> 00:10:43.240 of Celearis, worked for me at PVH. My boss and I had hired 149 00:10:43.240 --> 00:10:48.480 her to run our footwear company, and she reported to me when we hired 150 00:10:48.519 --> 00:10:52.279 her, track reckon and footwear preceded her. She was an amazing woman and 151 00:10:52.320 --> 00:10:56.799 we had hoped she could make our shoe business more successful. For us. 152 00:10:56.840 --> 00:11:00.399 Shoes weren't a core competency and are. Though profitable, we didn't long in 153 00:11:00.399 --> 00:11:03.879 the business and wanted out, and we had hoped Diane would turn it around. 154 00:11:03.759 --> 00:11:07.279 Now, don't hold me to it. Nine months, maybe a year, 155 00:11:07.360 --> 00:11:09.240 we were treading water. Nothing great came of it, and Diane, 156 00:11:09.240 --> 00:11:15.840 to a credit, realized that while footwear was important, it was not a 157 00:11:16.000 --> 00:11:18.360 core business for us and we didn't really support it. Perhaps the way we 158 00:11:18.399 --> 00:11:22.840 should have. We were more afraid of it than we liked it. And 159 00:11:22.919 --> 00:11:24.799 at one point nine months, maybe a year, she came to us. 160 00:11:24.840 --> 00:11:30.080 She wanted to leave the company, and she'd been off of the executive vice 161 00:11:30.120 --> 00:11:33.759 president job at Solaris. It was called Brown Shoe Company at the time, 162 00:11:33.799 --> 00:11:37.480 the precursor to Solaris, and she explained she was going to be groomed for 163 00:11:37.559 --> 00:11:43.759 the CEO spot, a great, great chance for her. Now as a 164 00:11:43.840 --> 00:11:48.279 human I was happy for her. At his executive our key player was leaving 165 00:11:48.320 --> 00:11:54.039 the company, I have to confess I wasn't happy. Problem was for her 166 00:11:54.159 --> 00:11:58.320 she had a contract with us, and she had a one year non compete, 167 00:11:58.720 --> 00:12:03.120 which means she could not leave and go work for another shoe company in 168 00:12:03.200 --> 00:12:05.639 theory for a year. And in order for her to leave, she would 169 00:12:05.639 --> 00:12:09.919 need our approval. And why would we give it? Now, you would 170 00:12:09.919 --> 00:12:15.039 ask, why would anyone sign a contract to forbid them to work elsewhere? 171 00:12:15.759 --> 00:12:20.840 Because equally corresponding to that clause was an agreement that if you were terminated or 172 00:12:20.919 --> 00:12:26.919 fired without cause for any reason, you would receive a corresponding one year severance 173 00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:31.600 policy. So simply you get paid for a year at full salary. Jesse 174 00:12:31.679 --> 00:12:35.000 would know this in me. I learned early on that there's a quote in 175 00:12:35.080 --> 00:12:39.919 the law or about the law that says the law abhors slavery, namely, 176 00:12:39.960 --> 00:12:46.000 you can't force a person to work these severance agreements. Taking both sides into 177 00:12:46.159 --> 00:12:50.799 consideration makes a tidy legal document. But here's where the story gets interesting for 178 00:12:50.960 --> 00:12:56.919 Mark Weber and Diane Sullivan. My boss comes to me one day with a 179 00:12:56.080 --> 00:13:00.759 crazy idea. I tell you, I was shocked. Do you have the 180 00:13:00.960 --> 00:13:03.919 courage to say it out loud? He says, I want you to tell 181 00:13:03.960 --> 00:13:07.679 Diane Sullivan the only way she could leave the company is if her new company 182 00:13:09.039 --> 00:13:13.200 buys our shoe company. You're listening to this. It's crazy. Yeah, 183 00:13:13.279 --> 00:13:16.039 it's like fifty to one hundred million dollars. We are gonna tell them they 184 00:13:16.039 --> 00:13:20.240 have to buy this company that they don't want, that we don't want in 185 00:13:20.320 --> 00:13:22.279 order for her to leave. I was shocked. I mean, I thought 186 00:13:22.360 --> 00:13:26.159 I was smart, I thought I was a tough guy. When he said 187 00:13:26.159 --> 00:13:28.080 this to me, I was amazed. I didn't have the courage to say 188 00:13:28.080 --> 00:13:31.279 it out loud. My boss made me look like an amateur. Anyway. 189 00:13:31.919 --> 00:13:35.600 I was forced to be a hard nosed with Diane and take the company line. 190 00:13:37.320 --> 00:13:39.440 And I presented it with list, Diane, we have an agreement with 191 00:13:39.480 --> 00:13:41.679 you. We don't want you to leave the company. In order for you 192 00:13:41.720 --> 00:13:46.759 to leave, it's been decided by our chairman and the board of directors that 193 00:13:46.799 --> 00:13:50.279 if you want to leave and break through your employment agreement, you're gonna have 194 00:13:50.360 --> 00:13:52.360 to talk to your new company out buying it. She was shocked, she 195 00:13:52.480 --> 00:13:56.799 was angry. She couldn't believe it that we would stand in her way and 196 00:13:56.840 --> 00:14:00.000 do this. And I did take the opportunity to say that, Diane, 197 00:14:00.720 --> 00:14:03.679 this was not of my choosing. I didn't even consider this. I was 198 00:14:03.720 --> 00:14:07.320 asked to deliver the message. Of course, our chairman is expecting you to 199 00:14:07.360 --> 00:14:13.120 come see him. She was upset, but the answer was, if you 200 00:14:13.279 --> 00:14:18.080 want to go leave the company, that's the deal. Now. As it 201 00:14:18.120 --> 00:14:22.200 turned out, Selearis wanted Diane, and they negotiated the terms and they bought 202 00:14:22.279 --> 00:14:28.559 our shoe company and she left. Now, the company she was running was 203 00:14:28.600 --> 00:14:31.320 a problem. It wasn't doing great and needed to be turned around. She 204 00:14:31.399 --> 00:14:33.519 wasn't able to do it here, and now she had it in a new 205 00:14:33.519 --> 00:14:39.960 company where she was just employed. She was embarrassed, her future perhaps in 206 00:14:39.080 --> 00:14:43.639 question. Now having said that, she went on to do great things. 207 00:14:45.080 --> 00:14:48.440 I wish my board loved me the way that board loved her. A few 208 00:14:48.519 --> 00:14:52.639 years I ran it to Diane at another event. I said, Hey, 209 00:14:52.639 --> 00:14:54.519 Diane, how are you doing? And she looked at me, your kidding, 210 00:14:54.559 --> 00:14:58.320 Mark? I said, what, you don't think I'm ever going to 211 00:14:58.399 --> 00:15:01.840 forget, let alone forgive you for what you did to me when I wanted 212 00:15:01.879 --> 00:15:05.080 to leave the company. Diane, that wasn't my decison. Yeah right, 213 00:15:05.159 --> 00:15:07.519 Mark, you involved with everything. And she walked away before I can even 214 00:15:07.600 --> 00:15:11.440 respond. And here we are, all these year years later, blown off 215 00:15:11.480 --> 00:15:16.759 again by Diane Sullen, the award recipient at a night I knew no one 216 00:15:16.799 --> 00:15:20.720 but her. Now she's a player. Anyway, Congratulations Diane, you said, 217 00:15:20.720 --> 00:15:24.759 congratulations, Diane. I have a feeling she's not listening to this show. 218 00:15:26.360 --> 00:15:28.879 Just call me crazy. I don't think she's listening to Always in Fashion 219 00:15:28.919 --> 00:15:33.200 with Mark Webber after everything. No, she's not a fan of mine. 220 00:15:33.279 --> 00:15:35.120 And that's why I laugh. And I want to talk a little bit more 221 00:15:35.159 --> 00:15:39.240 tonight. It's Ladies Night and Always in Fashion a tribute to the ladies I 222 00:15:39.320 --> 00:15:43.200 work with but I couldn't help but being at this event and hearing the song 223 00:15:43.360 --> 00:15:48.960 and seeing Diane telling you a story of perhaps not one of my better days. 224 00:15:48.000 --> 00:15:52.000 But congratulations to all involved. It was a nice event and what an 225 00:15:52.080 --> 00:15:58.519 amazing venue. The Glasshouse back in a moment. Always in fashion. That's 226 00:15:58.559 --> 00:16:03.120 one of the world one's most celebrated fashion designers. Carlagafeld was renowned for his 227 00:16:03.240 --> 00:16:08.200 aspirational and cutting edge approach to style. His unique vision of Parisian shit comes 228 00:16:08.200 --> 00:16:14.519 to America through car Lagofeld Paris. He has women's collections, men's collections, 229 00:16:14.559 --> 00:16:18.480 ready to wear, accessory, shoes and bags. The fashion house Carlagofeld also 230 00:16:18.559 --> 00:16:22.799 offers a range of watches, I wear and premium fragrances. You can explore 231 00:16:22.120 --> 00:16:26.679 the car lagofl collection at car Lagofelparis dot com. But it's more than that. 232 00:16:26.960 --> 00:16:30.759 I have for one, love to shop. I love going around and 233 00:16:30.799 --> 00:16:34.120 seeing what's happening and what catches my attention, what would make me feel good 234 00:16:34.159 --> 00:16:37.240 to wear Now. I don't wear the women's wear obviously, but I can 235 00:16:37.279 --> 00:16:41.919 appreciate it and they look amazing. If you want to look right, you 236 00:16:41.960 --> 00:16:45.240 want to have clothes that fits you well. You want to look like you're 237 00:16:45.279 --> 00:16:49.919 wearing something that's very expensive, that's exclusive for you and yours. You can 238 00:16:49.960 --> 00:16:56.559 find it at very affordable prices at Macy's Orcarlagofel dot com Paris. The women's 239 00:16:56.600 --> 00:16:59.960 ready to wear fashion is extraordinary, as well as the handbags and the ship 240 00:17:00.039 --> 00:17:04.319 use. I, for one, wear men's clothes onlike my appreciation of women's 241 00:17:04.319 --> 00:17:07.839 clothes. I'm a modern guy. I want to look current. I want 242 00:17:07.880 --> 00:17:11.279 to look the way I want to feel. I go out at night, 243 00:17:11.400 --> 00:17:15.480 I'm in black and Carl Lagafel is my buddy. Clos are great, They 244 00:17:15.519 --> 00:17:18.559 fit great, and they have little tweaks and touches, whether it's a stripe 245 00:17:18.559 --> 00:17:21.880 on the sleeve or button at the neck or on the shoulder. There's a 246 00:17:21.920 --> 00:17:26.559 lot of details that go into Carlagafel because he's always been, he always had 247 00:17:26.599 --> 00:17:30.319 been, one of the world's great designers, and this legacy and goes on 248 00:17:30.440 --> 00:17:33.559 and on. I can't speak enough about it except to say to you, 249 00:17:33.559 --> 00:17:36.599 you want to feel good about yourself. You want to know that you're dressing 250 00:17:36.640 --> 00:17:41.519 properly. You want to clothes that fits you well. Carl Lagafeld Paris at 251 00:17:41.559 --> 00:17:48.319 Macy's Orcarl Lagafel dot com. A favorite brand has always been ISAOD. My 252 00:17:48.440 --> 00:17:51.880 company at one time bought that brand. The CEO of the company handed it 253 00:17:51.880 --> 00:17:55.240 to me and said, you better make it work. And I put everything 254 00:17:55.319 --> 00:17:59.000 in my career to make Ayaod work, and I fell in love with that 255 00:17:59.119 --> 00:18:03.279 brand. To this day, it is one of the most exciting endeavors I've 256 00:18:03.319 --> 00:18:10.440 ever gotten involved with. ISOD is an incredibly strong golf brand. If you 257 00:18:10.640 --> 00:18:15.279 play golf, if you play tennis for that matter. They make a great 258 00:18:15.640 --> 00:18:22.200 polo shirts. I mean great. They're fit perfect. The material is unique 259 00:18:22.240 --> 00:18:26.880 because it's a PK fabric that waffle weave you see, and it's made of 260 00:18:26.920 --> 00:18:32.559 a blend of cotton and microfiber that allows you to stretch. And very often 261 00:18:32.640 --> 00:18:38.680 they are treated with solar protection as well, so they stretch, they're comfortable, 262 00:18:38.720 --> 00:18:41.880 and they breathe well. And one thing about ISOC they always fit. 263 00:18:42.200 --> 00:18:45.240 They'll never tug on you. You put it in your waist, they'll fit 264 00:18:45.319 --> 00:18:51.119 you great. The colors, patterns are sensational. Now I will also tell 265 00:18:51.119 --> 00:18:55.200 you ISOD makes great shorts and great golf pants. You're a golfer and you 266 00:18:55.240 --> 00:18:56.640 want to look good. You don't have to think about how do I look. 267 00:18:57.319 --> 00:19:00.799 You want to think about how you play, how you feel. Isod 268 00:19:02.079 --> 00:19:04.240 is the brand for you. I know I was there when it was created. 269 00:19:04.279 --> 00:19:08.240 The strategy behind that brand is brilliant. It's one of my favorite brands. 270 00:19:08.599 --> 00:19:11.039 While I talk about it, I should tell you about the men's sportswear. 271 00:19:11.559 --> 00:19:15.480 ISOD wasn't enough being a golf brand. It wasn't enough being just great 272 00:19:15.559 --> 00:19:22.759 polo shirts with logos, without logos, incredible branded story and history. ISOD 273 00:19:22.839 --> 00:19:30.480 makes salt weather programs. They have great printed woven shirts, short sleeves. 274 00:19:30.079 --> 00:19:36.279 They look excellent with colors, excellent with shorts, excellent with cotton pants, 275 00:19:36.279 --> 00:19:40.519 of which they also make this whole salt order. Relaxed line from ISOD, 276 00:19:40.799 --> 00:19:47.759 whether it be fleece, cotton sweaters, knit polos, woven shirts and pants 277 00:19:47.799 --> 00:19:51.759 of a range of colors and fabrics that are perfect for a guy wants to 278 00:19:51.799 --> 00:19:55.880 go casually in the spring and summer of this year. And here's the thing, 279 00:19:56.680 --> 00:20:04.160 Iszod is affordable. Everyone listening to me talk about this brand can afford 280 00:20:04.240 --> 00:20:08.000 to buy it and know that there are a lot of other brands that also 281 00:20:08.160 --> 00:20:14.079 have a look like ISID, although I don't believe it's fun as Isaia is. 282 00:20:14.079 --> 00:20:17.000 The brand has a lot of energy in it, but at the price 283 00:20:17.079 --> 00:20:22.640 points no one can compete. You can find Isaaca at your leading retails and 284 00:20:22.839 --> 00:20:26.200 online at isad dot com. Talk to you later, guys. I wish 285 00:20:26.240 --> 00:20:32.880 you are very happy springing summer, and I help you by telling you if 286 00:20:32.880 --> 00:20:36.759 you were isaid, you're gonna look great. Welcome back to it always in 287 00:20:36.839 --> 00:20:41.039 fashion. Here's your host, Mark Webber. Tonight, it's ladies night. 288 00:20:41.200 --> 00:20:45.200 Oh what a night. A confluence of events of me hearing that song by 289 00:20:45.200 --> 00:20:48.519 clueing the gang and going to a charity dinner where the woman who I'd known 290 00:20:48.680 --> 00:20:52.240 a long time ago was made the Women of the Year and given the award 291 00:20:52.559 --> 00:20:56.079 got me thinking about all the women that I've worked with in the company and 292 00:20:56.119 --> 00:21:00.720 the remarkable people that they are and the jobs they have done. Now, 293 00:21:02.279 --> 00:21:08.599 I know there's a glass ceiling in the world still for women when it comes 294 00:21:08.640 --> 00:21:11.359 to business. It's getting better, but I got to tell you from my 295 00:21:11.559 --> 00:21:17.319 vantage point, I was always confronted by brilliant women in my companies. The 296 00:21:17.400 --> 00:21:23.400 fashion luxury retail industry perhaps is more populated by women of consequence than maybe any 297 00:21:23.440 --> 00:21:26.880 other industry, and I want to talk a little bit about that. My 298 00:21:27.160 --> 00:21:33.519 first exposure to women of consequence in business took place at the board level at 299 00:21:33.559 --> 00:21:37.799 PVH Corps, Phillips Venues and Company. As a young man, I was 300 00:21:37.880 --> 00:21:41.559 fortunate enough to present to our board on various different occasions, and pH was 301 00:21:41.599 --> 00:21:47.279 blessed with two amazing women on the board. The first was named Shirley Goodman, 302 00:21:47.359 --> 00:21:52.200 who was Shirley Goodman Well. Shirley Gillman was a college educator and for 303 00:21:52.240 --> 00:21:57.519 in particular. She was one of the founders of Fashion Institute of Technology, 304 00:21:57.640 --> 00:22:03.039 the college in New York for our industry. She joined in nineteen forty nine 305 00:22:03.079 --> 00:22:08.160 to help draft the legislation making fit part of the SUNNI, the State University 306 00:22:08.200 --> 00:22:12.960 of New York college system. She stayed there from nineteen forty nine to nineteen 307 00:22:14.000 --> 00:22:18.119 ninety one. At the time she died, she was an amazing woman and 308 00:22:18.200 --> 00:22:25.799 on that board whenever issues of people came up, recruiting people that we needed 309 00:22:26.000 --> 00:22:30.799 open positions the industry at large, she was always there talking with an insight, 310 00:22:30.160 --> 00:22:36.000 in an intellectual prowess that blew me away, and I realized what an 311 00:22:36.039 --> 00:22:38.440 important woman she was, and if you go to ft, a picture of 312 00:22:38.440 --> 00:22:44.640 her hangs in the lobby commemorating who she was for the industry. There was 313 00:22:44.680 --> 00:22:48.359 another woman named Mistelle Ellis. When I met her, she was eighty two 314 00:22:48.440 --> 00:22:52.160 years old, but shop is attack. She was a marketing guru in New 315 00:22:52.240 --> 00:22:56.400 York. She had her own private practice, and people from all over the 316 00:22:56.400 --> 00:22:59.559 world in the industry at large, came to her and asked her opinion. 317 00:23:00.000 --> 00:23:03.440 And she sit in our board meeting and give a different point of view from 318 00:23:03.480 --> 00:23:07.079 everyone else who was strictly numbers, strictly business, strictly strictly. She put 319 00:23:07.160 --> 00:23:11.839 up a fashion slant, a marketing slant of what could be important to the 320 00:23:11.880 --> 00:23:18.480 company to build brands and make them interesting. And I always appreciated her insight 321 00:23:18.599 --> 00:23:23.359 because she took the mind away from just the numbers and gave it a different 322 00:23:23.400 --> 00:23:27.279 perspective. I've told the world in my book and I'll say it again. 323 00:23:29.400 --> 00:23:32.559 I was always struggling with van Ues and advertising. You know, how do 324 00:23:32.640 --> 00:23:37.480 you make venuesen brand special when you were up against all the designers and all 325 00:23:37.519 --> 00:23:40.519 the best shirt makers in the world. And even though van Usen probably made 326 00:23:40.559 --> 00:23:42.200 the best shirt of all them. How do you make it exciting? And 327 00:23:42.240 --> 00:23:47.559 by the time I was in the board asking about questions and help and looking 328 00:23:47.599 --> 00:23:49.000 for help. I remember going to her one day and saying, look, 329 00:23:49.319 --> 00:23:53.759 Estelle van Usen makes women's products. It makes pants, that makes sweaters, 330 00:23:53.839 --> 00:23:56.920 and of course we're known for shirts. I'm at a loss. What do 331 00:23:56.960 --> 00:24:00.440 you think we should do in our advertising tea? Get it noticed? And 332 00:24:00.519 --> 00:24:07.559 she looked at me and smiled and simply said, you should simply say shirts 333 00:24:07.599 --> 00:24:11.720 for men. And I looked at her and I realized what a powerful statement 334 00:24:11.759 --> 00:24:15.680 that is van us and shirts for men, And from that everyone in the 335 00:24:15.720 --> 00:24:21.000 world would recognize the brand. I was spent my time on making our shirts 336 00:24:21.039 --> 00:24:25.359 look like designer shirts that far more expensive than they were, and sure enough, 337 00:24:25.559 --> 00:24:27.839 shirts for men caught on and I used it for five years running until 338 00:24:27.880 --> 00:24:32.200 I left the company, and if they were smart, they'd go back and 339 00:24:32.240 --> 00:24:36.400 continue to use it because van use it his shirts for men. Now. 340 00:24:36.720 --> 00:24:41.000 My exposure to these women at the board was not my first exposure to women 341 00:24:41.079 --> 00:24:45.200 in business. In fact, in my early years I began as a clerk 342 00:24:45.640 --> 00:24:49.759 and when I got promoted to my first creative job as a designer, lo 343 00:24:49.960 --> 00:24:56.759 and behold. My first boss was a woman named Darlene Johnston. Darlene Johnson 344 00:24:56.960 --> 00:25:04.119 was a gifted technical creative genius in the Boy's division of our company. Now, 345 00:25:04.200 --> 00:25:07.359 as it turns out, my first design job, I was assigned to 346 00:25:07.400 --> 00:25:11.079 the Boy's division. I wasn't happy about it because of all the divisions in 347 00:25:11.119 --> 00:25:15.559 the company. You think van ues in dresshirts, number one, venues and 348 00:25:15.599 --> 00:25:18.640 sportsman number two. At the bottom level of the pecking order was the Boy's 349 00:25:18.680 --> 00:25:22.799 division. And I remember talking to Doleen and she's saying to me, you 350 00:25:22.880 --> 00:25:26.319 don't know what you're getting into. You don't know how fortunate you are, 351 00:25:26.799 --> 00:25:32.599 because in this division you're going to learn about every product. And that's the 352 00:25:32.599 --> 00:25:36.319 way it worked, you know. I've often talked about what is the key 353 00:25:36.359 --> 00:25:38.920 to my success? Of course being curious, of course having a degree of 354 00:25:38.960 --> 00:25:44.440 smarts, always looking to learn. But I say that when I looked at 355 00:25:44.480 --> 00:25:48.400 the symbol of the Godfather, if you remember what it is, it's a 356 00:25:48.480 --> 00:25:52.319 marionette marionette strings and a hand holding them. And it always impressed me early 357 00:25:52.359 --> 00:25:56.680 back, even those days, that if you want to be in the position 358 00:25:56.759 --> 00:26:02.519 of holding those strings rather than being at the bottom of the strings where someone 359 00:26:02.559 --> 00:26:06.480 else was telling you what to do. You had to learn as much as 360 00:26:06.519 --> 00:26:11.079 you can about everything surrounding you. And here I was in the boy's division. 361 00:26:11.119 --> 00:26:15.799 By the time I got there, I was expert in boy's woven shirts, 362 00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:18.640 tresh shirts, ports shirts, collars made out of woven fabric. Darlene 363 00:26:18.839 --> 00:26:23.000 was a knit genius. She came from a company named rob Roy where she 364 00:26:23.119 --> 00:26:27.200 was the head creative director of the kid's knitwear business, and she brought that 365 00:26:27.240 --> 00:26:30.720 expertise to our company. Now, I hadn't thought about Darlene in a long 366 00:26:30.759 --> 00:26:34.920 time until I was in Ralph Laurentz's store on seventy second Street one day and 367 00:26:34.960 --> 00:26:40.720 there was a guy who I knew right away named Jerry Lauren, Ralph's brother 368 00:26:41.079 --> 00:26:44.359 who began the business with Ralph, and together they made it what it was. 369 00:26:44.400 --> 00:26:47.400 And he started talking to me and my son Jared, because we both 370 00:26:47.440 --> 00:26:48.839 had long hair. We were all trying on clothes. He loved the way 371 00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:52.359 it looked on us, he loved our hair. Started to talk and I 372 00:26:52.400 --> 00:26:53.559 said, I know who you are, and he said, how's that work? 373 00:26:53.839 --> 00:26:59.039 I said, my first boss was Darlene Johnson, And out of the 374 00:26:59.119 --> 00:27:02.440 blue, eighty two years old, He said, that was my time at 375 00:27:02.559 --> 00:27:06.200 rob Roy before I joined Ralph and started his business. She was amazing. 376 00:27:06.240 --> 00:27:10.480 How did you know she was my first boss. Anyway I worked there, 377 00:27:10.799 --> 00:27:15.880 I learned everything I could about knit where everything I could about sportswear. I 378 00:27:15.960 --> 00:27:19.559 learned about T shirts, sweaters, I learned about pants. I was given 379 00:27:19.599 --> 00:27:25.160 the opportunity to learn jackets, t shirts, and screen printing. All there 380 00:27:25.319 --> 00:27:29.119 was to know about knitting, buying knitwear by the pound rather than the yard, 381 00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:32.720 and all of the associated things. How do you tell one knit from 382 00:27:32.759 --> 00:27:37.839 another from the weight? I got this amazing education, and as time went 383 00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:42.039 on, the fascin any thing is everyone in companies had specialists. If you 384 00:27:42.079 --> 00:27:45.119 were a dress shirt guy, you were a dress shirt gal. You did 385 00:27:45.200 --> 00:27:48.839 dress shirts. If you were a sports shirt person, you did sports shirts. 386 00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:52.759 If you were a pant person, you did pants and outawear, and 387 00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:56.759 on and on. My time at PVH, my beginning years, I was 388 00:27:56.799 --> 00:28:00.880 in boys and I learned everything about every one of those businesses. So when 389 00:28:00.920 --> 00:28:07.200 they started needing creative people to run the big divisions, I was more equipped 390 00:28:07.200 --> 00:28:10.759 to do it than anyone else when they started. As years went on to 391 00:28:10.839 --> 00:28:17.160 consolidate businesses that they wanted senior heads, fashion directors, general managers to oversee 392 00:28:17.240 --> 00:28:21.480 a multitude of products. I was ahead of everyone else, and it all 393 00:28:21.519 --> 00:28:26.000 relates back to this woman, Dolan Johnson, who I worked for. Those 394 00:28:26.079 --> 00:28:30.400 three ladies gave me a perspective on women's in fashion that I never forgot, 395 00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:36.079 and they got me on my way. I'll take a break back in a 396 00:28:36.119 --> 00:28:41.440 moment. It's Ladies night. I'm always in fashion, always in fashion. 397 00:28:41.599 --> 00:28:45.160 I spent a lifetime of my career building the van Usen brand, and I 398 00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:52.279 am so pleased that they're back with us now talking about suits. Men were 399 00:28:52.359 --> 00:28:56.359 dressing up again and it's become cool to wear a suit. Suits can be 400 00:28:56.400 --> 00:29:00.000 won on multiple ocasions in multiple ways. You could wear suit formally to go 401 00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:03.200 out at night or to an event, to wear a suit to the office 402 00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:07.000 with or without a tie. If you look closely, now fashion trends, 403 00:29:07.359 --> 00:29:14.000 suits are being worn with turtlenecks or mack next, the choices are endless and 404 00:29:14.119 --> 00:29:18.880 every one of them looks right. You could really really look the part. 405 00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:22.519 I believe that packaging yourself this is important. Does the products you package? 406 00:29:22.680 --> 00:29:26.920 And wearing a suit is one of those things that make men look their best. 407 00:29:27.359 --> 00:29:32.519 Venues In invented a new idea. It's called the cool Flex suit. 408 00:29:32.799 --> 00:29:37.000 It's been engineered with stretch technology, giving you the most comfortable fit and mobility. 409 00:29:37.240 --> 00:29:41.680 Its wrinkle resistant fabric, it's cool moisture wiki. It makes it perfect 410 00:29:41.720 --> 00:29:47.400 for all occasions. As we discussed just now, this new style of looking 411 00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:52.759 sharp while feeling cool and comfortable is amazing and I'm so excited that the ven 412 00:29:52.839 --> 00:29:59.160 Using company is involved in this new technology and is embracing the whole idea of 413 00:29:59.279 --> 00:30:02.519 dressing up. Let's off again. Van Usen made its name with dress shirts. 414 00:30:02.599 --> 00:30:07.599 It's only proper that the suit business follows strongly in its way. You 415 00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:12.480 can find van Using Cool Flex Men's Stretch suits at jcpenny or online at jcpenny 416 00:30:12.680 --> 00:30:17.200 dot com. Guys, they're great. You should go look at them. 417 00:30:17.480 --> 00:30:21.880 DK and Why. Donna Karen, New York. Donna Karen began her career 418 00:30:21.920 --> 00:30:27.039 as one of the finest, most successful, powerful women in the fashion industry. 419 00:30:27.160 --> 00:30:32.880 She developed a collection aimed at the luxury market for women on the go, 420 00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:37.359 women who were powerful in their workplace, women who had lives that extended 421 00:30:37.400 --> 00:30:41.279 beyond the workplace. And her clothes went from day and to night. An 422 00:30:41.359 --> 00:30:45.039 extraordinary collection. But the interesting thing Donna Karen had a young daughter, and 423 00:30:45.079 --> 00:30:48.880 she had friends and they couldn't afford to buy the Donna Karen collection, and 424 00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:55.200 Donna invented DKNY Donna Karen New York. It's an offshoot of the Donna Karen 425 00:30:55.279 --> 00:30:59.839 collection. The same concept a lifestyle brand. Now we talk about lifestyle brands, 426 00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:03.200 what does that really mean? Simply what they say, there are brands 427 00:31:03.240 --> 00:31:06.799 that follow you throughout your lifestyle. You get up in the morning, you 428 00:31:06.839 --> 00:31:11.119 start to get dressed Donna Karen dcan why as intimate apparel, as hosiery, 429 00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:15.839 as all those products. You're getting dressed for work. You get accessorized shoes, 430 00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:18.480 handbags, and it takes you through the day. The remarkable thing about 431 00:31:18.519 --> 00:31:22.599 DK and Y clothes for work, they work into the evening. The dresses, 432 00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:27.839 the suits, the pants, the sweaters, the blouses. Extraordinary clothes 433 00:31:29.039 --> 00:31:33.960 at affordable prices that go from day in tonight. Part of your lifestyle is 434 00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:37.240 active. You have weekends, you have events, you participate in sports. 435 00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:42.960 Donna Karen's casual clothes did that under the dkn Y label. A vast array 436 00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:49.279 of casual sportswear that make women look great as they navigate their busy lives. 437 00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:53.039 Whether you're going to soccer games for your children, or whether you're going out 438 00:31:53.119 --> 00:31:57.480 to the movies, whatever you want to do. DCN, Why jeans, 439 00:31:57.680 --> 00:32:02.119 dcaan why sports wear is there for you. That's what a lifestyle brand is. 440 00:32:02.680 --> 00:32:08.200 And I need to mention DKY Activewear, which is extraordinary, the leggings, 441 00:32:08.319 --> 00:32:15.480 the sports bras, the sweats. You can wear DKY Activewear, certainly 442 00:32:15.519 --> 00:32:19.000 in the gym, certainly when you're working out at home, and certainly if 443 00:32:19.079 --> 00:32:22.960 you want on the street, because it's that well done. The quality of 444 00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:25.960 dk why is nothing short of exceptional. And why shouldn't it be because it 445 00:32:27.079 --> 00:32:32.119 was born from the idea of luxury made affordable for women of America. DK 446 00:32:32.400 --> 00:32:37.359 and Why a true lifestyle brand that takes you from day and tonight, from 447 00:32:37.359 --> 00:32:45.480 the week into the weekend. DCN Why you can find dcnhy and Macy's DKY 448 00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:50.799 dot com. Welcome back to Always in Fashion. Here's your host, Mark 449 00:32:50.839 --> 00:32:54.519 Webber. Good evening. It's Ladies' night. I'm Always in Fashion. It's 450 00:32:54.519 --> 00:33:00.440 a night where I'm celebrating the luck I had working with brilliant women from the 451 00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:06.640 day I began, from the first exposure to the women on pvh's board, 452 00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:08.759 to my first boss, who was a woman who taught me how to be 453 00:33:08.799 --> 00:33:14.119 a creator and taught me that I could learn a lot a lot of subjects 454 00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:16.720 and be ahead of the game and put me on my way. I am 455 00:33:16.960 --> 00:33:23.359 saluting women tonight because in this industry, retail, fashion, luxury, women 456 00:33:23.720 --> 00:33:30.319 play a massive role. I understand in this world women still see and there 457 00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:35.039 still is a glass ceiling, but in our industry they've broken through anyway. 458 00:33:35.160 --> 00:33:38.599 Jesse, what do you see in women in your industry? I work with 459 00:33:38.759 --> 00:33:44.400 a number of incredible women. So at Long Crime, we have a female 460 00:33:44.400 --> 00:33:49.519 president who is a powerhouse. She has been with the company for years. 461 00:33:50.119 --> 00:33:53.400 She helped build it into what it is today. She is just an incredible 462 00:33:53.400 --> 00:33:58.519 manager. She knows exactly what to look for. It's really a sight to 463 00:33:58.559 --> 00:34:04.519 see because she had started actually her career in local broadcasting and now she is 464 00:34:05.039 --> 00:34:09.199 an incredible executive Prime Crime, my documentary show that I work on, from 465 00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:14.280 the executive producer and host of all women on my team, and they are 466 00:34:14.360 --> 00:34:17.360 some of the best people I've ever worked with in terms of incredible editors, 467 00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:22.000 incredible writers, so organized. So I'm fortunate that way. Now, I 468 00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:25.320 will tell you before my broadcast career. You know, I was a lawyer 469 00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:30.639 and the first person who taught me law I was a junior associate. She 470 00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:34.840 was a senior associate. She was incredible, taught me the ropes, taught 471 00:34:34.840 --> 00:34:37.320 me how to become a lawyer. There was one person I worked for that 472 00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:42.199 I just have to call out though. She was a partner at my firm, 473 00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:45.880 and I will not sugarcoat this. She was one of the toughest people 474 00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:50.719 I have ever worked for in my entire life. She wasn't the easiest, 475 00:34:51.159 --> 00:34:54.880 but my gosh, was she brilliant. You say she's tough. I was 476 00:34:54.960 --> 00:34:59.320 tough, But fair? Was she fair? I think she was a little 477 00:34:59.400 --> 00:35:02.400 rough. Put it that way. She once called me an idiot, which 478 00:35:02.480 --> 00:35:07.159 was not the nicest thing. I had problems. You had fourteen people throwing 479 00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:09.079 work at you. Let me let me tell you what. Let me tell 480 00:35:09.079 --> 00:35:13.239 you one thing. She didn't quite call me an idiot. She basically suggests 481 00:35:13.239 --> 00:35:15.400 that I was dumb. But let me tell you something. What she did 482 00:35:15.400 --> 00:35:17.400 that I actually, to this day, I don't think I was wrong. 483 00:35:17.880 --> 00:35:22.440 So I worked for a number of different departments, and I was doing actual 484 00:35:22.719 --> 00:35:27.199 legal work, writing up breefs, doing research, and one day she calls 485 00:35:27.280 --> 00:35:30.159 me and she goes, I need you to go upstairs and I need you 486 00:35:30.199 --> 00:35:32.960 to sort out these files with the guy that she wanted me to sort it 487 00:35:32.960 --> 00:35:37.079 out with his job, as he's like the records guy. She gos, 488 00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:39.320 I need you to put all the files in the right place. And I'm 489 00:35:39.480 --> 00:35:43.960 drowning in work and she tells me to do this, and I guess I 490 00:35:44.039 --> 00:35:46.159 was a little annoyed, and also the way she had been treating me, 491 00:35:46.199 --> 00:35:51.000 and I said, there, basically, with all due respect, isn't that 492 00:35:51.119 --> 00:35:54.679 his job? She goes, what did you say? Don't tell me what 493 00:35:54.719 --> 00:35:59.559 his job is and what your job is. And the next day I get 494 00:35:59.559 --> 00:36:01.960 a call from my manager who says, I got to talk to you. 495 00:36:02.039 --> 00:36:06.599 I got a call from her. He goes, she says, you're very 496 00:36:06.679 --> 00:36:09.079 rude and that you you said to her, this is dropped the dime on 497 00:36:09.239 --> 00:36:13.079 you. She dropped the time on me, and I was I was like, 498 00:36:13.239 --> 00:36:15.400 whoa, let me correct the record right here. And he acknowledged how 499 00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:20.239 abrasive she is and how tough she is, but when I look back on 500 00:36:20.320 --> 00:36:23.400 it, she had a lot of responsibility, big clients. She's hutting up 501 00:36:23.400 --> 00:36:28.840 an incredible division on her own. She built it herself. But I'm glad 502 00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:30.960 I'm not working for her anymore. Put it that way. But overall, 503 00:36:31.280 --> 00:36:35.880 over, overall, I've had great experience. Well it's Ladies to Night, 504 00:36:35.920 --> 00:36:39.320 and I think I want to be fair there. Women in this world and 505 00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:45.159 business have been incredible to you, to me, And so I want to 506 00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:52.960 talk about getting into LVMH because I have a story about a woman who without 507 00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:55.000 her, I don't believe I would have been hired by LVMH. To see, 508 00:36:55.079 --> 00:37:00.880 LVMH is a global company. They're one of the remarkable companies in the 509 00:37:00.880 --> 00:37:07.000 world. Louis Vuittan mohen Hennessy. They operate their own stores because primarily ELVIMH 510 00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:10.679 is a retailer. But in order to be successful there and even get placed, 511 00:37:10.679 --> 00:37:15.480 you have to have an understanding of global business. And I met a 512 00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:21.719 woman who was the managing director of the Asia Pacific Organization at Calvin Klink. 513 00:37:21.840 --> 00:37:28.159 Her name was Edith Chen. She did something for me that became incredible because 514 00:37:28.239 --> 00:37:34.679 I knew nothing about the inner workings of managing businesses in Asia Pacific. I 515 00:37:34.719 --> 00:37:37.840 wake up one day and I have to go to China. China had become 516 00:37:38.199 --> 00:37:44.599 one of the most important markets for luxury and power designer brands in the world. 517 00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:47.280 We owned Calvin Klin. Our jeans, our underwear was all over China 518 00:37:47.320 --> 00:37:52.719 and Asia. But China represents about a third of all the products sold in 519 00:37:52.760 --> 00:37:57.599 the world. And how does that work. I knew nothing about it. 520 00:37:57.719 --> 00:38:01.159 And Edith took me to China, and when I got to a first Hong 521 00:38:01.239 --> 00:38:07.199 Kong, she set up a board presentation for me in her offices, introduced 522 00:38:07.199 --> 00:38:09.840 me to all the people and started to show me the infrastructure of Calvin Klein, 523 00:38:10.280 --> 00:38:15.039 how it was organized, who the key players were, and what we 524 00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:19.719 needed to accomplish that day on our trip. But she said to me, 525 00:38:20.480 --> 00:38:23.000 before you could be useful to me, and she said it in a way 526 00:38:23.039 --> 00:38:29.480 that was respectful. I need you to understand how everything works. So before 527 00:38:29.519 --> 00:38:32.679 we have a meeting with any one of importance, I need you to go 528 00:38:32.760 --> 00:38:37.000 with me to a mall in Beijing, which is where we were, And 529 00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:40.840 she took me to one of the best malls in Beijing and started to walk 530 00:38:40.920 --> 00:38:45.440 me. Says Mark. The first thing you'll notice that there are no empty 531 00:38:45.480 --> 00:38:51.000 spaces in this mall. It's filled to capacity, and there's a waiting list 532 00:38:51.400 --> 00:38:55.440 for years to get into this mall. And you'll notice on the first floor 533 00:38:55.920 --> 00:39:00.239 all the luxury brands. You could see Dior, you could see v Tone, 534 00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:04.559 you could see Gucci, you could see Prada, And the first thing 535 00:39:04.599 --> 00:39:08.440 anyone sees when they come into those malls is the luxury products. On the 536 00:39:08.559 --> 00:39:15.920 second floor, you'll find diffusion brands, either the second tier of brands that 537 00:39:16.119 --> 00:39:21.719 these companies offer, or brands of a lesser consequence. So in the case 538 00:39:21.719 --> 00:39:25.840 of Prada, they also own Memeu. But also you might find Ralph Lauren, 539 00:39:27.480 --> 00:39:31.920 Tory Birch, you'd find Donna Karen or dkayn Why in these stores. 540 00:39:32.519 --> 00:39:37.639 And then on the third floor you'd find Calvin Klein Jeans and other brands like 541 00:39:37.760 --> 00:39:44.880 those genius brands that you compete with. And the mauls were tiered by consequence. 542 00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:51.159 Who were the players? But in a mall mark where there's more interest 543 00:39:51.280 --> 00:39:54.719 in opening stores than real estate, who do you think are the most important 544 00:39:54.719 --> 00:40:00.679 people in this mall? And I thought for a minute, and before I 545 00:40:00.679 --> 00:40:05.480 can answer, she said, the owners of the mall and the landlords and 546 00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:10.760 the people representing the owners of the mall. So now that you understand that 547 00:40:10.840 --> 00:40:15.800 we want to open stores, that our Calvin Klein store isn't big enough, 548 00:40:15.960 --> 00:40:20.199 that they just bought and built a beautiful mall in Shanghai, and we need 549 00:40:20.239 --> 00:40:22.480 to get Calvin Klein there. I want you to meet the mall owners. 550 00:40:22.559 --> 00:40:27.320 I want you to meet the representatives of the mall and all their people, 551 00:40:27.639 --> 00:40:31.960 and we need to convince them that Calvin Klein belongs on the second floor with 552 00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:37.920 the collection and on the third floor with the jeans line. Oh and by 553 00:40:37.960 --> 00:40:42.199 the way, Mark, they've never done that for us A great well. 554 00:40:42.239 --> 00:40:45.920 Anyway, Edith Chen brief me on this, took me and spent two days 555 00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:50.400 with me in China, taught me what I needed to know in China. 556 00:40:50.480 --> 00:40:53.960 But I said to you early, I wouldn't have got the job at LVMH 557 00:40:54.639 --> 00:41:00.119 if it wasn't for this fateful trip with Edith. See when I was in 558 00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:02.519 my interview and being grilled, what do I know about luxury? What do 559 00:41:02.599 --> 00:41:06.039 I know about this? What do I know about that? What do you 560 00:41:06.079 --> 00:41:09.800 know about your business in China and the rest of Asia? I proceeded to 561 00:41:09.880 --> 00:41:15.159 tell the story of the importance in landlords and how I've met all the key 562 00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:19.039 landlords in China, and how the morals were structured and tiered, and of 563 00:41:19.079 --> 00:41:22.400 course they know it, but they wanted to see that I knew it, 564 00:41:22.840 --> 00:41:27.519 and thanks to Edith, I was prepared and forever I am grateful for that. 565 00:41:28.159 --> 00:41:30.280 Now I can talk to you about Donna Karen, who made it impossible 566 00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:35.480 for me to join her company. I thought she was a gifted, gifted 567 00:41:35.519 --> 00:41:38.039 individual I had the greatest respect for in the world. I did meet with 568 00:41:38.159 --> 00:41:44.079 Donna. I tried to be recruited, she tried to unrecruit me. In 569 00:41:44.159 --> 00:41:49.880 over a period of agonizing months, I fought to get into LVMH to run 570 00:41:49.920 --> 00:41:52.559 that company for them. Ultimately I did, and I had a great working 571 00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:57.679 relationship with Donna. But I have to say, on the list of people 572 00:41:57.679 --> 00:42:01.599 that I've met in business that I respect Ladies Night, Donna Karen's brilliance, 573 00:42:01.679 --> 00:42:06.480 her ability to design, her ability to walk into an empty room and turn 574 00:42:06.519 --> 00:42:10.000 it into a museum is nothing short of brilliant, and I have to salute 575 00:42:10.000 --> 00:42:14.440 her with that. Will take a break back in a minute on Ladies' Night 576 00:42:14.519 --> 00:42:20.280 talking about the women that really impressed me in my career. Always in fashion 577 00:42:21.039 --> 00:42:24.239 venues for over one hundred and fifty years now has been a mainstay in American 578 00:42:24.320 --> 00:42:30.599 fashion. This brand that was invented for dress shirts was given to cold miners 579 00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:35.079 when they exited the mills, dirty and dusty. 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There's a lot of details that go into Carlagafel because he's always 619 00:45:24.599 --> 00:45:29.800 been he always had been one of the world's great designers, and this legacy 620 00:45:29.920 --> 00:45:32.360 and goes on and on. I can't speak enough about it except to say 621 00:45:32.360 --> 00:45:36.000 to you, you want to feel good about yourself. You want to know 622 00:45:36.039 --> 00:45:38.519 that you're dressing properly. You want to clothes that fits you well. Carl 623 00:45:38.920 --> 00:45:45.480 Lagafeld, Paris at Macy's Orcarl Lagafel dot com. Welcome back to Always in 624 00:45:45.559 --> 00:45:51.400 Fashion. Here's your host, Mark Webber. It's Ladies' night. I'm Always 625 00:45:51.400 --> 00:45:53.480 in Fashion. I heard the song ladies Night cool in the gang. I 626 00:45:53.519 --> 00:45:58.360 went to a charity event that was honoring a woman as their Woman of the 627 00:45:58.440 --> 00:46:01.119 Year who I had worked with. Got me thinking Ladies' night. I wanted 628 00:46:01.159 --> 00:46:05.320 to talk about women that I work with. I'm trying to think about all 629 00:46:05.360 --> 00:46:09.239 the women who made me impressed and had changed my career. But right now 630 00:46:09.280 --> 00:46:15.000 what I want to talk about is courage in my industry. Where I learned 631 00:46:15.039 --> 00:46:20.480 it. I was working back at PVH and I happened to work alongside of 632 00:46:20.519 --> 00:46:28.719 a woman named meg La Chance, who in my early days demonstrated something to 633 00:46:28.800 --> 00:46:32.639 me that I thought was more courageous than I never understood before I grew up 634 00:46:34.320 --> 00:46:37.840 running wholesale businesses. I was the president of Venues and Shirt Company at one 635 00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:43.480 point before I really got to know megla Chance. Meg at the time was 636 00:46:43.599 --> 00:46:49.800 vice president of Jeffrey Bean Retail. It was a men's and retail outlets format. 637 00:46:50.360 --> 00:46:52.199 And I start to work with these teams in retail. I had a 638 00:46:52.280 --> 00:47:00.599 job called pH International. I became the sourcing guy who'd help design, source, 639 00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:04.039 buy the product around the world in Asia to deliver to these stores. 640 00:47:04.400 --> 00:47:07.360 And I'll never forget. We'd have design meetings. Meg would sit there with 641 00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:12.639 a team of planners and administrators. Meg was in theory a buyer of retail, 642 00:47:13.119 --> 00:47:15.760 and she would look at the products, put a value on all those 643 00:47:15.800 --> 00:47:21.480 things that she'd like, talk to her team and put it all together and 644 00:47:21.519 --> 00:47:22.880 they would lay out all the orders. This is what I want to buy. 645 00:47:23.639 --> 00:47:25.480 And I looked at her and I said, how do you know how 646 00:47:25.480 --> 00:47:28.920 to do this? She says, Mark, what choice do I have. 647 00:47:29.480 --> 00:47:31.360 I have a store, I have to fill it with a product. I 648 00:47:31.440 --> 00:47:35.760 have to buy product. I said, but you don't know who's going to 649 00:47:35.800 --> 00:47:37.119 come in. You know what? She says, We get paid to make 650 00:47:37.159 --> 00:47:42.559 these decisions. And for the first time I realized how difficult the retail business 651 00:47:42.679 --> 00:47:45.360 is. You're making decisions a year in advance. You're filling up store with 652 00:47:45.480 --> 00:47:51.679 merchandise that you've seen either in sample form of paintings and deciding to buy it 653 00:47:52.239 --> 00:47:58.159 with quantities, and that your whole career was based on selecting right or wrong. 654 00:47:58.480 --> 00:48:04.320 And from Meg I learned courage. You know, another element of business 655 00:48:04.360 --> 00:48:07.960 when I'm looking at the ways to define some of the women I work with, 656 00:48:07.800 --> 00:48:12.719 has to do with likability. I work with a woman named Carol Kerner 657 00:48:12.719 --> 00:48:16.280 who's the president of Donna Karen Collection. Donna Karen Collection was one of the 658 00:48:16.280 --> 00:48:22.280 toughest businesses I've ever been associated with because we were competing with all the best 659 00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:29.480 designers in the world, from tom Ford to Door, Fendi, Vitone. 660 00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:32.559 All this floor space is being shared for apparel. We're trying to get our 661 00:48:32.599 --> 00:48:37.719 share. I would work with Donna Karen and I walk into Sacks Fifth Avenue 662 00:48:38.159 --> 00:48:43.760 to meet the power plays and the decision and Carol walks in and they love 663 00:48:43.840 --> 00:48:47.559 her, They respect whatever she has to say. That doesn't mean that they 664 00:48:47.559 --> 00:48:52.679 would buy everything we want. At the time, Sacks Fifth Avenue had thirty 665 00:48:52.679 --> 00:48:55.559 three stores and they were only purchasing Donna Karen in nineteen of them. And 666 00:48:55.639 --> 00:49:01.480 I watched Carol construct a deal on ship brillianc and gut to be in all 667 00:49:01.519 --> 00:49:06.239 thirty three stores. And she said to the head guy, the senior vice 668 00:49:06.280 --> 00:49:10.639 president at Sachs, who's making the merchandising decisions, I need to grow to 669 00:49:10.719 --> 00:49:15.440 thirty three stores. Just well, I can't give you all thirty three stores. 670 00:49:15.800 --> 00:49:19.559 So she said to him, I'll tell you what I want five stores. 671 00:49:19.880 --> 00:49:22.880 And she put down on a piece of paper she had already pre written, 672 00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:24.639 these are the five stores I want to be in. He says, 673 00:49:24.679 --> 00:49:28.199 I can't do it. Carol, she says, I'm going to put these 674 00:49:28.239 --> 00:49:31.559 goods in on consignment. I always choke. I never agreed to consignment. 675 00:49:31.599 --> 00:49:35.880 She need to even ask me. The problem with consignment is you put the 676 00:49:35.920 --> 00:49:39.159 merchandise in a store. Everything they sell they pay you for. Whatever doesn't 677 00:49:39.199 --> 00:49:44.920 sell they give back to you. And I'm taking the total risk. If 678 00:49:44.960 --> 00:49:49.280 these five stores do well, I want the next five stores and then the 679 00:49:49.280 --> 00:49:52.639 next five stores. Will you do that? There's no risk to you. 680 00:49:52.280 --> 00:49:57.199 And because they loved her, and because they liked her and not loved her, 681 00:49:57.280 --> 00:50:00.840 they liked being around her. She was so likable, and because she 682 00:50:00.920 --> 00:50:05.480 offered them a plan that could not fail, they gave her the order and 683 00:50:05.559 --> 00:50:08.719 we grew from there. What a great lady, another one in a long 684 00:50:08.760 --> 00:50:15.480 list of great ladies. And I'm internally grateful for what I learned from them, 685 00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:17.480 what they did for me, what they did for the companies I worked 686 00:50:17.480 --> 00:50:25.559 for, the successes we have in this industry luxury fashion retail Women occupy major 687 00:50:25.679 --> 00:50:30.280 positions throughout the industry, as they should because they're good at it, and 688 00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:35.079 far often they're better than men at it for all intensive purposes. I've worked 689 00:50:35.119 --> 00:50:39.639 with brilliant women controllers who understood the finance. I worked with brilliant sales executives. 690 00:50:39.719 --> 00:50:45.679 I've worked with presidents and chairmen of massive retail companies or wholesale companies in 691 00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:52.880 this industry. And I'm proud to say I am a grateful guy for what 692 00:50:52.920 --> 00:50:59.559 I learned and got from them. But on a night we're talking about ladies 693 00:50:59.679 --> 00:51:04.679 night, I can't help but say the most powerful important woman I ever met 694 00:51:04.719 --> 00:51:08.239 in my life was my wife, who passed away six years ago. My 695 00:51:08.320 --> 00:51:13.159 wife, Susie was the brains of the Weber family. She's the one who 696 00:51:13.159 --> 00:51:15.960 put it all together, not me. She knew what it was like to 697 00:51:16.079 --> 00:51:21.119 raise and build a family. She set me up and told me how to 698 00:51:21.159 --> 00:51:24.559 be a father. Whenever there were difficulties, she took them like an eagle 699 00:51:24.639 --> 00:51:30.800 flying through the snowstorm. Nothing reffled her feathers. She got things done and 700 00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:35.840 knew the things had to be done. My wife has left a huge hole 701 00:51:35.880 --> 00:51:39.480 in our family, in our hearts and the operating structure of the Weber family. 702 00:51:39.920 --> 00:51:45.920 She was so smart, so capable, so on top of everything. 703 00:51:45.079 --> 00:51:50.840 She was the one we all went to it for advice. Whenever I had 704 00:51:50.920 --> 00:51:53.800 an issue with business, when I was concerned, she always put it in 705 00:51:53.920 --> 00:51:59.039 perspective. She always said to me, it's just work, Mark, it's 706 00:51:59.079 --> 00:52:01.639 not the family. Do fine. Whenever I was troubled, don't worry, 707 00:52:01.679 --> 00:52:06.599 Mark, You'll be fine. She's always been the guiding light of our family, 708 00:52:06.639 --> 00:52:10.119 to our sons and to everyone that has been involved with the Webers. 709 00:52:10.239 --> 00:52:14.360 I miss her. There's not a day that goes by that I don't think 710 00:52:14.360 --> 00:52:16.559 about her. I know the boys think about her all the time, but 711 00:52:16.639 --> 00:52:22.199 how in the world when it's ladies night can I not talk about my wife? 712 00:52:22.480 --> 00:52:27.800 Susan Weber with that. I hope you enjoyed tonight's show. Good Night