1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:05,240 Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to the act Lite Review. 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:10,119 I'm the number one Kyler Ren fanboy, Trevis Snell, and I'm joined by 3 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:16,960 I am Semantics Patzer, the pupil Taylor Field. There you go, ladies, 4 00:00:17,039 --> 00:00:19,600 gentlemen. If you having guests, well, I think I already said 5 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:23,559 welcome back to Aclay review. But yes we're here Act Lite episode six. 6 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:28,359 Spoilers of you breaking this down as usual. Lots of good stuff going on 7 00:00:28,359 --> 00:00:31,359 the feed. We got the Boys happening, we got House of Dragon happening 8 00:00:32,119 --> 00:00:34,799 next couple week. There'll be some fun summer reviews, and we're leading up 9 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,920 to Deadpool. We'll be and Comic Con because now we got that official, 10 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,399 so there'll be some good newscast and we'll do a Comic Con prediction. We'll 11 00:00:41,399 --> 00:00:45,719 do Deple Wolverine prediction later on this week. Well, i'll tell you more 12 00:00:45,759 --> 00:00:49,439 about that lay about some exclusive episodes coming out, lots of stuff having a 13 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,920 patron and then yeah, so just subscribe to feed. There's lots of good, 14 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,920 juicy episodes. We haven't I don't had it on the schedule, but 15 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,759 I think Long Legs is happening. Ckirkly you're seeing long legs, right, 16 00:01:00,159 --> 00:01:04,040 what is it called long leg long legs? Remember the serial Killer one with 17 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:11,680 Nick Cage, the really creepy trailers. I don't all, Okay, we're 18 00:01:11,719 --> 00:01:18,519 gonna have to mister Wesson pats that we talked about reviewing it, and it 19 00:01:18,599 --> 00:01:19,439 was because Stillon's time. Me like, oh yeah, we're all seeing it. 20 00:01:19,519 --> 00:01:23,000 So I wasn't on the calendar. And then it's like, oh yeah, 21 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,799 it's just never. I don't know. Maybe it was one of those 22 00:01:25,799 --> 00:01:27,319 that we we thought about. But as it's gone on, so lots of 23 00:01:27,359 --> 00:01:30,040 good reviews coming this summer, but you know it's a good review. Hopefully 24 00:01:30,439 --> 00:01:34,079 this one right here. So I threw to him a swing and miss when 25 00:01:34,079 --> 00:01:37,079 we throw him, hopefully don'll miss this time. Mister Patzer, what did 26 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:41,719 you think about episode six? Corrupt and Teach? Also the model here at 27 00:01:41,719 --> 00:01:45,280 Geek? First, they did go back to the double title. I actually 28 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,879 missed this week's I was curious they just forgot. They forgot one week, 29 00:01:48,959 --> 00:01:52,439 Like fuck, we didn't do it. Yeah, there was there was some 30 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,319 stuff in here. I was really vibing with I'm not gonna lie, I 31 00:01:55,519 --> 00:02:00,359 was. I was really digging some back and forth between certain characters. There's 32 00:02:00,599 --> 00:02:05,280 I think I'll still a lot of big question marks that come out of this 33 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,639 episode for just the overall meaning of what this has to do with the Star 34 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:13,919 Wars universe. And I'm curious just how they're gonna burn off those loose ends. 35 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:19,800 You got a question or you just shake squeeze the balloons on the gimmick. 36 00:02:20,199 --> 00:02:22,840 So I brought the balloons up and I haven't figured it out yet, 37 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:28,520 so I see. But you know, I I think I think I'm like, 38 00:02:29,159 --> 00:02:32,039 yeah, I'm pretty damn positive. Actually after this one. It's definitely, 39 00:02:32,479 --> 00:02:36,080 you know, with any of these shows, it can definitely, I 40 00:02:36,159 --> 00:02:39,800 think, go up or down depending on how this show rounds out. There's 41 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:45,759 many times I just found myself like, why aren't they just doing this with 42 00:02:45,879 --> 00:02:50,199 this show? Like I had that sort of thing, yeah, like backseat 43 00:02:50,319 --> 00:02:58,319 armchair quarterback while watching the show, where it's more so just like this could 44 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:02,360 have been done and like I I hate like I try to catch myself by 45 00:03:02,439 --> 00:03:05,719 being like, oh, I could have wrote a better story. It just 46 00:03:05,759 --> 00:03:10,639 seems like the focus. I don't really understand their focus up until this point, 47 00:03:10,719 --> 00:03:14,879 and I'm hoping I'll understand that by the end. Of the show. 48 00:03:15,439 --> 00:03:22,479 But I don't know. I was watching I mean, minor spoiler the actress 49 00:03:22,599 --> 00:03:27,400 that plays gentleman that I don't know his name gentleman with the actress that plays 50 00:03:27,439 --> 00:03:30,719 the gentleman I don't know what an actress are playing gentlemen. I had to 51 00:03:30,719 --> 00:03:34,159 pull up the cast list. I'm so bad in names, I U I 52 00:03:34,319 --> 00:03:39,919 usually have to refer to that. So let's go Kime here here and Osha 53 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:45,319 there. There's there's a dialogue between those two characters, and Shay is just 54 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,000 like I don't know if it's the actors or if the writing is just bad, 55 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:51,360 but like it just seems so I'm like, it's the writing. It's 56 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,039 the writing. Trust me. They are way better than the than the writing 57 00:03:54,080 --> 00:04:00,360 that's going on with with those characters. I think that this episode show does 58 00:04:00,439 --> 00:04:02,120 that at least, I mean, she put it out, but she hasn't 59 00:04:02,159 --> 00:04:05,400 been very invested in the show overall. But I I don't know, Like 60 00:04:05,479 --> 00:04:09,639 I'm curious to break it down with you guys. I don't have like major 61 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:14,000 cons I think some things to kind of point out and and and just have 62 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:20,519 a question for. But but like performances were good, Like I don't know 63 00:04:20,639 --> 00:04:24,839 like, it's not like I got a character in here that I just absolutely 64 00:04:24,879 --> 00:04:28,959 hated or despised, like maybe some Mando moments have. The show like continues 65 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,240 to just kind of be like seven to eight range for me, which like 66 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:36,480 honestly like that, that's that's really solid, and I I don't see it 67 00:04:36,639 --> 00:04:40,519 going like really high by the end of it, at least for what we 68 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,600 got right now. But who knows, it could could drop a little bit 69 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,240 by the end, just depending on the consequence of I guess what what what 70 00:04:47,399 --> 00:04:54,199 happens here? But yeah, no, I I I'm just gonna pass it 71 00:04:54,199 --> 00:04:59,439 there because I don't want to accidentally say something that uh something down there. 72 00:04:59,519 --> 00:05:01,720 There's a there's a disturbance in the forest there for a quick moment, But 73 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:06,680 I think I'll just pass it there as cryptic as my overall is. Dalton 74 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:11,040 says, Now, this is the episode I'm waiting for. I love a 75 00:05:11,199 --> 00:05:14,800 quiet, intriguing character piece, and I can feedback on that a little bit 76 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,399 that I don't think I can get to the the So I do love a 77 00:05:17,519 --> 00:05:25,720 quietly and triguing character piece. I don't know if I like it has portions 78 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,079 of that, I will say this is my favorite episode. But I'm in 79 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,360 a very mixed realm with the show because again last week, I loved the 80 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,600 Lights Are Fight, Like, I loved the cool stuff. I loved what 81 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:39,800 everyone talked about. But for me, lots of the character stuff I just 82 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:44,839 couldn't get into because it's so poorly written that I'm non vested in this fight, 83 00:05:44,959 --> 00:05:46,560 you know. And then, like I said, episode five and four 84 00:05:47,079 --> 00:05:49,839 they have infected how I felt about one to three, which I don't know 85 00:05:49,879 --> 00:05:53,480 how those were were my favorite, but like I liked all those episodes, 86 00:05:53,519 --> 00:05:57,160 so it's like by proxy. But I think there's one specific thing. It's 87 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,759 not just because like hits on like a trope that I like, Like, 88 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,319 look at the name, like and this one. Lots of they're they're up 89 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:06,600 on the aunty as far as things we see going on. What's EYEBROWSI making 90 00:06:06,639 --> 00:06:10,199 there, mister Pats right, see the wren in your name? That's why. 91 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:15,120 Yeah. Like so there's there's isms that's some of all that's Tras likes 92 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,240 it. No, Like I do like that. I like that concept in 93 00:06:17,399 --> 00:06:21,199 general, which is I don't know, it's not a big spoiler, fucking 94 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:28,000 oh show was with came Here, Came Here, Kimier plagas Junior Kymier at 95 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,399 the end of the episode and oh, guess what they're talking in this episode, 96 00:06:30,399 --> 00:06:33,120 Like it's not big spoiler anything, And that stuff to me was all 97 00:06:33,439 --> 00:06:40,000 great. I love any interaction of uh, you know a sith who they've 98 00:06:40,079 --> 00:06:42,759 confirmed he is a sith. The actor says he's a sith. Leslie Headlin 99 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,920 says he's a sith. So I'm fucking done talking about he's a fucking sith. 100 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:46,800 I don't care if a breaks or can. I don't care if he's 101 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,439 dark. Tenabis say if he's not dark, play he's not dark. Palpatine 102 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,680 not dark. Who's your mom? Like, doesn't matter what he is. 103 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,600 He's a sith according to this show, like it or not. Caddy Mundy's 104 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:00,519 alive. All that good stuff right in there that could be lying, Oh 105 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:01,959 yeah, we'll get into it. He's a sith. Let's play the kyler 106 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,319 On theme. I don't fucking know what we're doing here. So that stuff 107 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:09,680 I really enjoyed. I thought, for what we've seen in live action, 108 00:07:09,839 --> 00:07:13,439 it was a different take and I'll get to more specifics, and I was 109 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,639 enjoying that aspect, and I think the actors like you're saying, I don't 110 00:07:15,639 --> 00:07:19,560 think it's I think writing for chime Here was better this episode. Last week, 111 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:23,160 I think there's a couple of cheesy one liners and stuff, but this 112 00:07:23,319 --> 00:07:27,000 week was a lot better, and I think the performances are good the rest 113 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,519 of the show. It was because we were talking about this with Mike and 114 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:30,800 the This World, or at least I was. I don't know if it's 115 00:07:30,839 --> 00:07:35,240 like filler, but it's like a plot point and then they're like very stretched 116 00:07:35,279 --> 00:07:39,040 out. It's like butter scraped over too much bread. You know, That's 117 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,000 what I'm saying, Like that's what's happening here, where we did get things 118 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,600 in each segment, but it took too long and they do something that is 119 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:49,120 like almost parity level was soul in this episode, Like it's super noying. 120 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:54,000 It feels like a scary movie White Chicks moment where it's like I don't know 121 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,000 and then something happens like oh, I'll talk to you there. It's just 122 00:07:56,079 --> 00:07:59,720 like it's it's kind of a shame that they had to keep doing this, 123 00:07:59,879 --> 00:08:03,040 like wait, making us wait till next week for certain things. But uh, 124 00:08:03,079 --> 00:08:05,160 and I'm not in an intrigued way. It's more like an annoyed way, 125 00:08:05,279 --> 00:08:09,120 like okay, cool. So I would say I like this episode for 126 00:08:09,199 --> 00:08:13,199 that one segment, it would be my favorite. But yeah, I'm still 127 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:18,519 I'm still iffy on the show. Overall. I liked I liked it. 128 00:08:18,639 --> 00:08:22,000 I wasn't bored watching it. I was bored watching some stuff, but I 129 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:26,560 need to see I guess what is that where it's seven and eight now, 130 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:31,279 and yeah, like if I'm in progress, like I think it's gonna be 131 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,679 lucky if I give the show a seven, and I don't think it's gonna 132 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:37,200 happen because we talked about many weeks. This week again, May continues to 133 00:08:37,279 --> 00:08:41,399 be just a terrible character. Every week. That's character they just make her 134 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:46,320 do the most. It feels like it's James McAvoy from Split. We're dealing 135 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,440 with a different person every week. But yeah, those are my thoughts, 136 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:54,000 mister Field. I really really enjoyed this episode. And for me, it's 137 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:58,679 it's it's to be expected. You have a high octane one that was last 138 00:08:58,759 --> 00:09:01,759 week, and so you're gonna get some It's just kind of like calm down 139 00:09:01,919 --> 00:09:05,519 and mellow, and so I think that the as you guys said, the 140 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:13,919 writing stands out it's not my most favorite, but I love the actors here. 141 00:09:13,039 --> 00:09:16,759 I think Kimera was great and I think Osha is great. I think 142 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:22,600 the certain things and progressions between our characters here is really really well done. 143 00:09:22,919 --> 00:09:28,240 And uh yeah, I just it really has me excited. There's certain isms 144 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:33,759 that I uh, there's stuff and the prequels that I really like that are 145 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:39,240 dark side oriented, and I just I Chymeer is just such an interesting, 146 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:43,159 intriguing, an interesting character, and there's just just isms that are emanating from 147 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:50,320 exploring this narrative further and I really really like that. So I'm hoping that 148 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:54,360 things kind of progress further along this path that you said, of course, 149 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:58,240 like there's all this debacle like kylo Ren's theme whatever, and yeah, yeah, 150 00:09:58,279 --> 00:10:01,919 yeah, we don't need any of that like you want. And she 151 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:07,480 said it's on purpose, like my boy's a sith. I don't know what 152 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:13,240 well Kyler I will say though, because this isn't spoiler this time. We 153 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,679 didn't tell last week because I didn't catch it. He'll talk about after that, 154 00:10:15,879 --> 00:10:18,480 like in the big reveal, because I feel like if you're watching episode 155 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:22,399 five or six now, it's like you should have saw five. So if 156 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:28,279 you're mad about what you're mad about or whatever, like get out here during 157 00:10:28,639 --> 00:10:31,559 the reveal or an endpoint. At some point they played the Kyler Ren theme 158 00:10:31,879 --> 00:10:33,600 and I'm gonna pause it for it. And maybe I should like this more, 159 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:39,440 but I don't, because you know, I prefer, I prefer overall 160 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,440 great writing to good writing, and I think this show has been very mixed. 161 00:10:41,519 --> 00:10:45,159 It has been some great right times, and there's times been very very 162 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:50,360 poor. Taylor. Maybe the writer of the show views sith the same way 163 00:10:50,399 --> 00:10:52,200 that I do. That anybody that's a dark side of yours or with a 164 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:56,480 red lightsabers just a sith, because that's what I would say. If she's 165 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:58,440 saying this guy's a sith and using the Kyle Ren theme, if that's just 166 00:11:00,159 --> 00:11:03,759 in one thing, and I should be defending her. I'm not here, 167 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:05,720 But like that, I wonder if you'd use it the same way, like, 168 00:11:05,759 --> 00:11:07,080 well, that's just a sith. They're all sith. Whatever, let's 169 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:11,159 move along. It's tricky because then you, I mean, does it not 170 00:11:11,399 --> 00:11:16,039 counteract Ryan Johnson or Ryan Johnson's like, hey, Kyler Ren's like the Jedi. 171 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:20,080 All of it doesn't matter. I'm not a Sith. I'm Kylo Ren 172 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:24,399 or whatever this is before it was before that this is Yeah, But weren't 173 00:11:24,399 --> 00:11:26,320 you alluding to, like, oh, my boys a sith when technically Ryan 174 00:11:26,399 --> 00:11:31,240 Johnson's way of pandeling it, he's not. When I said, my boy, 175 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,600 this episode I was talking about Oh, I thought you were talking about 176 00:11:33,639 --> 00:11:39,440 Kylo Wren. No, that's my man. No, like he's he's a 177 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,960 sith. In my opinion, there's two. It's a it's a rule of 178 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,519 two situation. In all three sequel movies, Wren is a syth to you. 179 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,200 Yeah, it's it's yes or no. Is it a rule too? 180 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:56,519 In all all sequel movies? No, that's the wind. No it's not. 181 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,960 You don't see those Wren use any force. You don't see the lightsaber 182 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,960 in what is it? Seven and eight? Hang on, let me finish 183 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:07,360 seven and eight. It's Snok and roten, Kylo and then A nine it's 184 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,720 Kyle and Palpatine. It's the same thing and they just renamed it. It's 185 00:12:09,759 --> 00:12:13,919 like a band that reformed with a different singer. What do you think, 186 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,080 Kirkland, He already agrees with you with the bullshit rules, but he knows 187 00:12:18,159 --> 00:12:20,799 him right, he deep down. Oh but the Laura says this, They 188 00:12:20,799 --> 00:12:24,399 don't give a fuck about the law. They treat the same way. Why 189 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,960 not if there are Knights of Rent Kylo guy, call him Kylo Kirkhan. 190 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,440 Why don't see the Nights a Rent popping off with a bunch of dark Side 191 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:35,720 stuff and like old Kotar of like a bunch of dark Side users. It's 192 00:12:35,759 --> 00:12:39,200 it's the same thing. It's too As someone who has seen the sequel trilogy, 193 00:12:39,399 --> 00:12:41,759 I don't even know what the fuck the Knights of Ren are, so 194 00:12:43,039 --> 00:12:46,320 like I have no idea what to answer that, Like they could be stormtroopers 195 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,480 for all I know, and like, okay, there's a comic book that 196 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:52,759 covers that, but yeah, I'm not reading that column book. There you 197 00:12:52,799 --> 00:12:56,919 go, Kirkhlam, Switzerland. That's my political answer. Yeah, So in 198 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:03,720 my opinion, it's like the Sith there and they've ruined the like there's Sith 199 00:13:03,919 --> 00:13:07,159 that are recontextualized, and there's Sith that are ruined and the Dark Times. 200 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:11,840 Palpatine and Vader are ruined in the Clone Wars, they're ruined because you have 201 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:16,679 like fucking Venturess and all these Sith assassins. No they should all One's bane 202 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:20,960 found that fucking holocron from Revin. That's it should have been Okay, we're 203 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:24,960 rocking with two, and no they fucking didn't. It's just like like what 204 00:13:24,039 --> 00:13:28,080 Taylor was saying, it's just so unnecessary to even really label it, like 205 00:13:28,159 --> 00:13:31,840 can we just have like a Dark Side user? And like that's just it, 206 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,159 Like why do we have to get these labels and in them the need 207 00:13:35,279 --> 00:13:39,000 to which is very strange to me. It doesn't change the story at all, 208 00:13:39,159 --> 00:13:41,679 Like if you don't call them a Sith or not, like it's just 209 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,480 someone that's killing Jedi, you know, using Dark Side of the Force. 210 00:13:46,039 --> 00:13:48,720 Let's just leave it at that. And I think that's what the showrunners should 211 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:52,679 have said from the get go. Why'd you use the Kyler Renth theme song? 212 00:13:52,759 --> 00:13:54,120 I don't know, I just it's my on my Spotify rapped. I 213 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:58,120 fucking love that song. So I say that that's what they should have said. 214 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,240 I I wonder if it's just like, may be a showrunner for some 215 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:05,639 one of these show star Wars shows and just put me in the press conference. 216 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:07,360 I'll handle it. Oh yeah, you're like the presser guy. Yeah. 217 00:14:07,399 --> 00:14:11,720 I just feel like who knows me will not get it because I feel 218 00:14:11,799 --> 00:14:15,919 like I don't know her being like, well, it's on purpose. Well, 219 00:14:15,919 --> 00:14:18,600 there's only two things. It's either this guy's fucking related to Kyler Ren 220 00:14:18,759 --> 00:14:20,480 or it's the Knights of Wren. But we specifically said the Knights of Rent 221 00:14:20,519 --> 00:14:24,240 are not sith. But she they've all said, hey, this guy's a 222 00:14:24,279 --> 00:14:26,840 sith. It's a new sith. We wanted to create a new scyth for 223 00:14:26,879 --> 00:14:30,879 the show. And that's why again I'm proposing that Disney, they look at 224 00:14:30,879 --> 00:14:33,879 all these people that they're just fucking sith. Every dark Side users just a 225 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,600 syth to them. If this is the case, because then this guy's a 226 00:14:35,879 --> 00:14:39,759 he's a sith. I don't know what the fuck he is. I don't 227 00:14:39,759 --> 00:14:43,559 know. Let's see see what happens in the last episode. Okay, let's 228 00:14:43,559 --> 00:14:46,720 get to spoilers. Two were doing that at the upload, so you signed 229 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,399 already spoiler break. I feel like we're just talking. We're talking sports for 230 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:54,200 episode five, so we were safe. That's why we never walked episode six. 231 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:58,200 We never transitioned. Weout. I didn't watch episode five yet. Oh 232 00:14:58,279 --> 00:15:01,200 my god, I only listen to not suppose that is gonna binge it. 233 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:07,799 One star Colrain's nasif all right, lad jee, I'll take it. I'll 234 00:15:07,799 --> 00:15:11,240 take it, Taylor. We're gonna take our first ad break and then we'll 235 00:15:11,279 --> 00:15:15,759 be right back and we're back, hopefully don't lose powers. You guys getting 236 00:15:15,759 --> 00:15:20,679 big thunderstorms. I'm here, is this thunderstorm? Fuck? It's yeah, 237 00:15:22,399 --> 00:15:24,480 I'm safe here on the west side. Not yeah, just stirt blowing. 238 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:31,159 If you didn't like those ad breaks, head over to Patreon. More specifically, 239 00:15:31,799 --> 00:15:33,240 you see search geekers, but the link is down below, along with 240 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:37,799 everything else you need to know. That's where you get ad free early exclusive 241 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:41,200 episodes. You get the Alien Retrospective four episodes right now, a VP will 242 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,600 be up there in two weeks, and Logan retrospective, and I'll pock up 243 00:15:43,639 --> 00:15:46,960 lots of good stuff two exclusive episodes, Bread and Butter and the originals. 244 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,559 That'll be good and yeah, that's the best way to support us. And 245 00:15:50,639 --> 00:15:54,759 you get a bunch of different gifts and benefits for those tiers. And then 246 00:15:54,799 --> 00:15:56,639 more importantly, if you want to wait, if you're thinking about I'll try 247 00:15:56,639 --> 00:15:58,720 it out some point, but I don't know when. Wait till August third, 248 00:15:58,759 --> 00:16:02,120 because that's gonna be geek fors Day. We're doing an eight to nine 249 00:16:02,159 --> 00:16:06,679 hour stream, and then what's going to happen is every time someone upset her 250 00:16:06,799 --> 00:16:08,919 or joints will make that stream longer. There's gonna be I should have start 251 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:11,559 doing that in the soon. Maybe this one I'll start putting in. Uh 252 00:16:12,159 --> 00:16:15,639 what's happening on the stream. But there's gonna be me and Tanna wrestling match. 253 00:16:15,639 --> 00:16:18,120 I dropped the first episode of The Downfall Taylor Field, go look at 254 00:16:18,159 --> 00:16:22,080 YouTube, you know, trying to get this match. But me and the 255 00:16:22,159 --> 00:16:25,080 lawyers, we've got some good stuff planned so uh and then yeah, lots 256 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,480 of other stuff, Geek versus where we It's Deadest Warriors, picture characters, 257 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:32,919 Uh, twenty twelve Golden Geeks, Trivia Battle. We got lots of patrons 258 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:34,000 joining in trivia battle right now. I'm not sure if you saw the post. 259 00:16:34,039 --> 00:16:37,600 So it's gonna be myself and uh Dill Dog leading a team and I 260 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:41,159 can't wait to bring them down. And hopefully there's some Star Wars questions on 261 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:42,919 there and Dylan's just frozen the nick of time. But uh, are you 262 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:47,720 there, Kirkland? Are you there for that? Oh? Yeah, you're 263 00:16:47,759 --> 00:16:51,039 talking about well, no, we're we're we were talking about Travis. Remember, 264 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:52,480 we're sure, Like, I think what we're gonna do. I think 265 00:16:52,519 --> 00:16:56,480 we're gonna do a live going on a value in your secrets over here. 266 00:16:56,759 --> 00:17:00,399 I think we're gonna do a live. We'll spin this side. Who's on 267 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,559 whose team? I think that's the fair way to do it. Put all 268 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,920 the names on the list, do a live reactions the randomizer wheel. Yeah, 269 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:08,759 I think we can make like an actual one too, like a physical 270 00:17:08,839 --> 00:17:11,000 one. You can do that. But I don't have the time to go 271 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:15,960 ahead three solid maybe I'll do that. Yeah, it's not gonna happen. 272 00:17:15,519 --> 00:17:19,400 You know what's gonna happen is uh Osha and came he You're gonna fuck maybe, 273 00:17:21,079 --> 00:17:23,000 But if not, he's gonna turn her to the dark side. So 274 00:17:23,799 --> 00:17:26,519 yeah, that's there. Because this was that's not my favorite star, my 275 00:17:26,599 --> 00:17:30,599 favorite stuff of this episode, it's my favorite star on screen. As Travis 276 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,920 was gonna say, no, I completely agree, that was my favorite. 277 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,839 Honestly, when they're in that cave together, that is the best thing that's 278 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:42,519 happened in the show so far. I was fucking loving those whole sequences of 279 00:17:44,279 --> 00:17:48,039 Also, it seemed like a different for me personally from my experience in Star 280 00:17:48,039 --> 00:17:53,720 Wars, it seemed like a very different setting for that type of conversation to 281 00:17:53,759 --> 00:18:00,359 go between like a dark Side user trying to basically lure over a character and 282 00:18:00,559 --> 00:18:04,519 not really by saying like you want my strength and power. It was like 283 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:18,119 really just like trying to body you can have this pulls an Aimon Turgarian just 284 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:25,400 scance steps out of the pool. Yes, no, but like like really 285 00:18:25,559 --> 00:18:29,599 just like meeting her in the middle and like just just trying to like actually 286 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,279 speak to her as a person, which it seems from her experience and I 287 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:37,759 know other Padawan's experience, like the Jedi don't always do that, like it's 288 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,599 really their their way or the highway. And I love the way that she 289 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:47,680 had worded it or sorry Kimier awarded it, where it's like the Jedi didn't 290 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:49,839 they only want to teach the force their way, and if they don't they 291 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,640 say that it like you'll just lose the power. And like, I just 292 00:18:52,839 --> 00:18:57,079 love that insight because it's just like, man, the Jedi just such boy. 293 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,519 You've heard me rant and rave about just the way Scout Jedi and they 294 00:19:00,599 --> 00:19:04,839 just have their ways and it's just I loved his perspective on the argument. 295 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:08,680 It seems very different than than just the Sith of the past. There you 296 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:12,559 go. I'm just I'm labeling him a safe already. He's just for the 297 00:19:12,599 --> 00:19:15,839 sake of argument for this show, I'm gonna be calling this character Sith. 298 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:21,480 So anyone out there, no, but I can't just go get not a 299 00:19:21,559 --> 00:19:23,440 Sith. It's like that's what they're writing it as you know. But like 300 00:19:23,559 --> 00:19:29,119 I I really really love that whole that whole argument, And coming into this 301 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,799 episode off of last week's episode, I was curious how his argument was going 302 00:19:32,839 --> 00:19:34,279 to be to Osha because it just seems like she's a character that I don't 303 00:19:34,319 --> 00:19:37,839 really see how she would have been persuaded the dark side. Like it's not 304 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,000 like she has a lot of anger. Maybe she does, that hasn't really 305 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,279 been shown so far in the show. You think that that would have been 306 00:19:44,839 --> 00:19:47,799 shown up until this point. Maybe you could make some arguments that she's just 307 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,880 last week a couple of them, and now especially with apparently she didn't leave 308 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,480 the order. Yeah they I guess it didn't pass or through, you know, 309 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:00,559 But like I think it's more so just like compared to other characters that 310 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,480 have maybe swayed the dark Side, in the past, she seems like the 311 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:08,640 least one that would do it. But I it makes it interesting how maybe 312 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,880 she could be aligned with someone that has those thoughts, even though she wasn't 313 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:21,079 like I don't know, just like super super angry type character that most New 314 00:20:21,559 --> 00:20:25,599 Dark Side users are kind of aligned with. So I love the way that 315 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,960 dialogue went, Like again that that was kind of the sequence where she was 316 00:20:29,039 --> 00:20:30,960 like, is this just like poor writing? I think it wasn't the best, 317 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,640 but compared to what we've gotten so far in the show, I really 318 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:42,079 really dug it, and Osha was showing some curiosity. I think in the 319 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,440 things that he was saying. It was just to me it made it seem 320 00:20:45,519 --> 00:20:49,519 like he's he's somewhat winning her over, which I did not think that she 321 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,519 might have got there. I'm at this point in the show, I think 322 00:20:52,519 --> 00:20:56,440 it's pretty low chance she will make that turn. But man, if this 323 00:20:56,559 --> 00:21:00,680 show that way, if that show, if the show ends this way and 324 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,559 she's just getting in the pool with him, holy fuck, I'm gonna be 325 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,079 very hype going into season two because I I do I don't think they're gonna 326 00:21:07,079 --> 00:21:11,240 do it. I don't think they have the balls. I hope I'm wrong, 327 00:21:11,319 --> 00:21:15,440 because that would make it very, very exciting going forward because that's such 328 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,960 a different Star Wars story that we've seen before, like from that perspective, 329 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,960 and that's what I was hoping this whole show was gonna be. But uh 330 00:21:22,599 --> 00:21:26,000 yeah, so yeah, we're making the chat always good to see you, 331 00:21:26,039 --> 00:21:29,119 Hope you're doing well. Yeah. We talked about a couple of weeks ago, 332 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:30,880 right like could they be bold enough to do that? And I made 333 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,039 the pitch of like, one, if we find out what soul, which 334 00:21:34,039 --> 00:21:37,839 we're finally gonna find out, I imagine next week what's going on because he 335 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:41,839 tried to tell uh May ten times and always were like, oh, there's 336 00:21:41,839 --> 00:21:44,039 a bug I gotta kill, but I'll tell you right when I get back, 337 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,680 Like he was distracted, like I think at least three times he's like 338 00:21:47,839 --> 00:21:51,400 he is the true story and then the lights is like, oh no, 339 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,839 I can't tell you yet, So next week, well get the true story. 340 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,440 I imagine. I was sopissed when it went to black and I was 341 00:21:56,519 --> 00:22:00,079 like, are you kidding me, like like just tell the story please, 342 00:22:00,079 --> 00:22:03,079 and then we got the other scene. But I don't know. It's tough 343 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:08,519 because Leslie Edlin said, this ends in a definitive way, not in the 344 00:22:08,519 --> 00:22:11,519 way that I think they answer all stories, but I think it a way 345 00:22:11,559 --> 00:22:14,599 where you can watch season one and season two back back or stories the end 346 00:22:14,599 --> 00:22:17,279 of season one, end of season you can watch the season one and feel 347 00:22:17,279 --> 00:22:19,359 fulfilled. So what I'm trying to say here, Okay, it's hard because 348 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,839 with two episodes that's where it's like, I don't think you could do that 349 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:26,640 turn. I also don't want to be I don't know, like what. 350 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,640 I just feel like we could go down the route of doing exactly what they 351 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,480 did in Last Jedi, where it's the Kylo and Ray situation and they're very 352 00:22:36,519 --> 00:22:38,240 close and then Ray doesn't turn, and then they're on opposing sides again, 353 00:22:38,319 --> 00:22:41,759 right, and with two episodes left, you could be right, I'm hoping, 354 00:22:41,799 --> 00:22:45,039 because to me, that is the best way to end the show of 355 00:22:45,559 --> 00:22:49,039 Soul telling the story and may finally going man, I've been wrong my whole 356 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,200 life, you know, even it's gonna try and kill this man again after 357 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:56,160 a couple in the same twenty four hour span going no, I'm gonna turn 358 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:57,720 myself in the Jedi. That'll always be a stickler for me. The rest 359 00:22:57,759 --> 00:23:00,200 of the time the show is like, I never understood how you can do 360 00:23:00,319 --> 00:23:06,119 such a flip. But if they flip her and whatever and she has that 361 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,480 helmet on, to me, that was hoping because the difference is with the 362 00:23:08,599 --> 00:23:11,160 Ray thing is at least that's in a scene and then they go for lightsaber 363 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:15,680 fight and then it's over. This is your ending an episode on she's putting 364 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,000 in the helmet on. Now there's also the argument of it's TV, you 365 00:23:18,039 --> 00:23:21,319 just need a cliffhanger against back next week. I get it. But for 366 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:25,160 me, I'm hoping it is the start of because I didn't think it's like 367 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:29,440 a turn. But I hope it's just like the few little inklings of man. 368 00:23:29,519 --> 00:23:32,839 There could be a different way. There could be another route to go 369 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:34,720 down. I don't have to listen to the Jedi who rejected me. You 370 00:23:34,799 --> 00:23:38,839 think about her as a child, she you know, maybe not the greatest 371 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,519 written as we talked about, but apparently want nothing more to be a Jedi. 372 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,599 Right left her family, her sister mom because she wanted to be a 373 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,720 Jedi. And think about that. She leaves her family, trains her whole 374 00:23:48,759 --> 00:23:52,519 life, and the Jedi turned her away. I think that does have something. 375 00:23:52,559 --> 00:23:56,279 You talk about Sith things like anger, hate, suffering, and even 376 00:23:56,319 --> 00:23:59,880 said desire like that to me is a SITH trigger rate there of you want 377 00:24:00,079 --> 00:24:03,480 something you didn't get it, you know, Anakin wanting to keep Padme alive, 378 00:24:03,559 --> 00:24:06,400 he wants it, doesn't get it, you know. So that's the 379 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:11,240 thing where I think there I can see a path for Osha may. I 380 00:24:11,279 --> 00:24:15,079 think it's harder because they've been so wishy washer with her, but I would 381 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,480 love that flip that like you're saying, Kirkle, And that's what I liked 382 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:21,119 about in live action, not the TV shows books, because I'm sure there's 383 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,839 been variations of that, right, but in live action so far. Sure 384 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,039 you had Vader try to turn Luke. But one are the two situations he's 385 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,839 beaten with the lightsaber and then other time he's handcuffed like they're always like against 386 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:37,240 his will sort of situation. Right, Kylo and Ray they had chats like 387 00:24:37,319 --> 00:24:40,720 this, but the difference was is Ray was kind of forced to listen to 388 00:24:40,799 --> 00:24:44,039 him, right. They kept having that skype call where they just kept talking 389 00:24:44,079 --> 00:24:48,839 to each other, and they also misunderstood the situation because Kylo thought Ray was 390 00:24:48,839 --> 00:24:51,480 coming to the dark side. And Ray thought, oh, Ben's coming into 391 00:24:51,519 --> 00:24:55,039 the good side, where I don't think at any point Osha is doing a 392 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,119 you should come back to Master Soul and he'll help, Like that wasn't pitched 393 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,200 at all here, right was nothing? So and then I'm trying to think 394 00:25:02,279 --> 00:25:07,880 in the prequels, it's tough because Palpatine, like again, he did talk 395 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,680 calmly like time here, but he did it in a way where he is 396 00:25:10,799 --> 00:25:14,960 like especially you know Plagus the Wise, he's like Vader, he's holding something 397 00:25:15,039 --> 00:25:18,440 over Anikin's head of I know your wife's gonna die. I'm the only one 398 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,880 that can help you. And then there's also three movies of him slowly like 399 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:26,640 turn, Like that's a real slow burn from the age of what ages Anakin 400 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,079 turn? Do you know the top of your head? What is he likes? 401 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:30,599 He's like ten when they get him, eight, ten when they get 402 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,599 him. And then what he's he like a twenty year old man? True, 403 00:25:33,599 --> 00:25:36,720 he was eleven, And yeah, you had another ten years. That's 404 00:25:36,759 --> 00:25:40,839 a ten twelve year burn of working on this guy to finally make him turn. 405 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,119 So that's why I liked where he's like, you can go right now, 406 00:25:44,279 --> 00:25:45,240 You're just gonna have to swim. It's a little dangerous. If not, 407 00:25:45,599 --> 00:25:49,359 you can wait for the tide. He never once forcibly even using the 408 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,920 force, no pun intended, took his lightsaber back. He let her have 409 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,440 it the whole time. He threatened, just said, hey, just kill 410 00:25:55,519 --> 00:25:59,000 me now. So that's where I enjoyed that, where it was a very 411 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:03,799 just and I think he feels that she might need that because it feels like 412 00:26:03,839 --> 00:26:06,680 she's maybe even pushed in a law of direction, pushed by her mother and 413 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,839 the witches, pushed away by the Jedi. So I think this is a 414 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,799 better route for him to talk calmly and just more invitingly and like, hey, 415 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,720 this is the way it is. This is how I see it. 416 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,759 You know they see it this way that might not be the right way, 417 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,839 or like he feels like he's letting her decide. He didn't come off as 418 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,759 threatening, and I feel like that's what I liked. I wish he had 419 00:26:25,799 --> 00:26:27,160 more energy of this last week because I guess he's in the battle. But 420 00:26:27,279 --> 00:26:30,000 like I said last week, be like, oh, you're trying to hide 421 00:26:30,039 --> 00:26:32,720 your face. That's why I have a mask. Like he was much more 422 00:26:32,839 --> 00:26:37,559 like like Ifity and just like like piss and vinegar where I preferred this, 423 00:26:37,839 --> 00:26:41,200 Like he feeled almost at times cool and calm, like a Jedi, but 424 00:26:41,279 --> 00:26:44,480 he's a syth, you know, like Kyl Wren is not cool and calm. 425 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,920 Darth Vader he's like cool and calm, but he's also been charred up 426 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:49,799 a lot, so he's like in pain all the time. Yeah. Yeah, 427 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,200 Palpatine, he was cool and clum. I'm not trying to say all 428 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,759 this is play against he trains them, no, But like Dooku, he's 429 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,799 cool and calm, but Darth Maul not cool and calm. So it's just 430 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:03,359 a situation of like Sith are very fifty to fifty, they're very headstrong or 431 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:04,279 they're very that and looks like they're kind of doing a bit of both. 432 00:27:04,319 --> 00:27:07,640 So I hope the next time he gets in a fight the dialogue is a 433 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:12,000 bit more with this type of character, not so much last week when he 434 00:27:12,079 --> 00:27:15,599 was trying to maybe they gave him a couple uh yeah dingers. But yeah, 435 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,359 I really enjoyed everything they did here, and I love I fucking loved 436 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,440 the whole him just stripping down and not even just the shirt. He's just 437 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,359 he's just skinny, dipping and because I just feel like that's a coward. 438 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:27,599 So they didn't even show a booty or a crack or anything, like, 439 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,400 I can't show that. I don't think they're shown any booty in Star Wars. 440 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,599 They can show a head being fucking snapped, but nobody. That's the 441 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,079 way the culture is. But yeah, he's just he's just free diicking it 442 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,759 out there and just good. Good for Kymeer, you know, so good 443 00:27:40,839 --> 00:27:44,839 for Kymer. I was just gonna add on my favorite arguments too, for 444 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:49,519 when like a Sith is trying to just tell their way is not so much 445 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,759 like I just want all the power for me or anything. It's it's really 446 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:57,720 just like he wants to live his own life and like like use the force 447 00:27:57,799 --> 00:28:03,000 how he sees it, not so much he's gonna just destroy Chorissant or like 448 00:28:03,079 --> 00:28:07,920 rule the galaxy, but like he just wants to use the force his way. 449 00:28:07,319 --> 00:28:10,960 And you have these fucking hall monitors out there that want to come and 450 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,720 just take him out because he doesn't he's not aligned with them, and he's 451 00:28:14,839 --> 00:28:19,519 he's yeah, like that's like the base of his you're forgetting okay, fair 452 00:28:19,599 --> 00:28:23,519 enough, fair enough again, I'm a sith apologist over here, tell me 453 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,279 to go kill these four specific Jedi so easy that a test though that was 454 00:28:27,279 --> 00:28:30,640 a test on but like you could just that side of the argument. I 455 00:28:30,799 --> 00:28:34,839 love. It's just it just seems so much more poetic and like more gray 456 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:40,440 area, I think than it's usually labeled as or or. And he said 457 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,920 it again in that scene of just like different emotions that the Jedi try and 458 00:28:45,039 --> 00:28:48,319 just like hide from themselves, and it's really just like nerving their own power 459 00:28:48,319 --> 00:28:51,400 because they're not able to tap into the full potential of what they might be, 460 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:53,799 and just everything he was saying, it was just like, man, 461 00:28:53,960 --> 00:29:00,680 this like there there's some there's some real diamonds in here that if we're able 462 00:29:00,759 --> 00:29:03,359 to just explore the show from start to finish or yeah, start to finish 463 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,559 with those ideas. Obviously you need more than that to make a compelling show. 464 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:12,960 But for those little moments, that's where I'm like, we're so close 465 00:29:14,119 --> 00:29:18,359 to just like a perfect accolyte show that I was wanting to get. And 466 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,279 who else maybe the finale's gonna be insane banger and I'm just really really high 467 00:29:22,319 --> 00:29:25,960 on the show. But I think that's why although I'm getting these glimpses. 468 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,319 I think that's why I think maybe like an eight out of ten is kind 469 00:29:27,359 --> 00:29:33,599 of my max that I could get from the show. I'm not just exactly 470 00:29:33,519 --> 00:29:36,759 like the main character. I haven't even talked about her yet, but like 471 00:29:37,279 --> 00:29:38,640 what I mean, you mentioned her? You know, I don't want to 472 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,400 go so hard before Taylor gives his thoughts, but like, fuck, what 473 00:29:41,519 --> 00:29:45,880 a waste of time. It seems to have that character and like just so 474 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,319 wishy washy. She was asked me, like what her motivations are, I'm 475 00:29:48,359 --> 00:29:52,839 like, I don't even fucking know. Like last week she was gonna hand 476 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,079 herself into the Jedi. Now she's trying to kill Master Soul alone on the 477 00:29:56,119 --> 00:29:57,599 ship. Like it's just all over the place of that character. But I 478 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,960 digress. Sorry, Taylor Field, Well, before you go to the super 479 00:30:00,039 --> 00:30:03,519 Mike says, the hard thing for me to accept that Osh would easily be 480 00:30:03,559 --> 00:30:04,960 swayed by the guy who killed Jackie right in front of her, the girl 481 00:30:06,039 --> 00:30:08,759 they basically admit she loved. And before you go to like, I I 482 00:30:08,839 --> 00:30:12,119 think, I guess for me just where I can agree to half it, 483 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,920 but why I can't agree. It's like I don't think she's swayed, yet 484 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,160 I think it'd be different if she pulled the red lights same, Like, 485 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:22,200 I'm like, this is are like flirting with the idea and he's trying to 486 00:30:22,279 --> 00:30:25,079 give the the idea that hey, I'm the innocent one here and they were 487 00:30:25,119 --> 00:30:26,960 attacking me, so I had to kill them, right, Not not he 488 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,839 didn't, that's paraphrasing. He didn't say it like that because he still killed 489 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,680 them, but still they were trying to attack them. He did initiate the 490 00:30:33,759 --> 00:30:37,200 attack, so that's the thing. But if he's trying to show that there's 491 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:41,680 this big conspiracy against him or the dark side about kind of whole like like 492 00:30:42,279 --> 00:30:45,160 guarding the force, like letting no one else use it. And I think 493 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,799 that's where I can get on board, is because this whole pitch of why 494 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,599 can't I use the force? She was told at some point, hey, 495 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,279 you can't be a Jedi, so she was kind of told in a similar 496 00:30:53,359 --> 00:30:56,880 route that yeah, this like you're not good enough for the force here, 497 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,200 you know. So I do understand the jeck th I just don't think I'm 498 00:31:00,279 --> 00:31:03,200 in the band way that she's easily swayed yet. I think she's just she's 499 00:31:03,279 --> 00:31:06,759 just curious because she really has nowhere to go right now. I guess you 500 00:31:06,799 --> 00:31:08,920 could find soul, but like, I don't know, she didn't know where 501 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,799 he is, and I think she's just she's just kind of a lost character 502 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:19,680 that's looking for something. So yeah, So I think that with Kimier and 503 00:31:19,759 --> 00:31:23,319 the dialogue with Osha, I think that there's so much they really really enjoy 504 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,079 with this. I think that, again the writing is not great, but 505 00:31:27,319 --> 00:31:30,920 the actors really make up for it. For me, in a lot of 506 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,079 these scenes and so everything Kymier is doing with Osha, I'm really really just 507 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:38,200 I enjoy it because to me, it just has those those Palpatine vibes. 508 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:45,000 It's just such a different approach and if you feel like you want to regretfully 509 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,640 kind of believe and take in what he's saying. And it's just such a 510 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:55,319 fun approach that these Sith lords have to just recruit you. I guess they 511 00:31:55,359 --> 00:31:59,400 want it to sound enticing and they're good with their words and the way that 512 00:31:59,519 --> 00:32:04,440 he's just being super not I guess super friendly, but he's just being he's 513 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,599 as naked that's pretty such friendly. Well, he's being he's accepting her to 514 00:32:07,759 --> 00:32:10,880 make her own decisions, but he knows the outcomes already, even though he 515 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,079 says, yeah, I'm not a mind reader, I can't read your mind 516 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:19,279 like he's still he knows how things are going to play out here. And 517 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:25,079 I feel like between the two sisters, you have him approaching May a very 518 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,599 different way, because I mean, May didn't even know what he looked like, 519 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,880 and it was very different. And now it's either in the grand scheme 520 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,880 of things, he wanted Osha in the long run, or maybe he's just 521 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,599 he understood how he really messed this up and now he's trying a completely different 522 00:32:38,599 --> 00:32:43,680 approach with Osha as opposed to May. She didn't know May did know his 523 00:32:43,839 --> 00:32:45,839 planet though, that he has his home base on, which that's kind of 524 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,799 I was surprised by because I feel like at any point if she turned, 525 00:32:49,799 --> 00:32:52,200 she just brings some people there, which I did thought was going to be 526 00:32:52,799 --> 00:32:54,920 ok too or whatever that hell place was from last Jedi where Luke was hanging 527 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:59,759 out, like, it looks very same, Yeah, And I actually think 528 00:32:59,799 --> 00:33:00,880 that would have been cool if they did that, because I don't know what 529 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:05,039 the status of it is in this era, so maybe it's up and running, 530 00:33:05,079 --> 00:33:07,920 but the fact that it was like a Jedi place and if assisting out 531 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,319 there, it's like, oh, that's kind of cool. But I don't 532 00:33:09,319 --> 00:33:12,599 know the stats in the Higher Republic. Maybe people are just having orgies. 533 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,240 There no porks, No porks, That's what I was gonna say that, 534 00:33:15,799 --> 00:33:20,480 like they could make the art like maybe it still could be, like maybe 535 00:33:20,519 --> 00:33:22,759 the porks are on the fucking South Pole. You know, it's classic Star 536 00:33:22,799 --> 00:33:27,079 Wars. You never see the whole planet and you see those the one area 537 00:33:27,599 --> 00:33:30,480 they flow the north or it's you know, it's what a couple hundred years, 538 00:33:30,599 --> 00:33:36,240 So maybe they more from those little elephant penis nose looking things. Maybe. 539 00:33:36,359 --> 00:33:38,759 Yeah, it's at least it's about one hundred how many years are between 540 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:44,599 uh, episodes six and seven, Taylor thirty, So it's about one hundred 541 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:49,839 thirty years, yeah, because it's about there's another twenty between three and four. 542 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,000 Okay, yeah, you're right. Okay, so it's about one Star 543 00:33:52,039 --> 00:33:59,000 Wars one and a five. I'd say Understorm has really got damn he's out. 544 00:33:59,359 --> 00:34:04,279 Oh shit, I'd say at least one hundred and sixteen and seventy years. 545 00:34:04,319 --> 00:34:09,800 Okay, So but again I just think that he is really just I 546 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,239 would have joined him. I would have joined him. I mean with this, 547 00:34:13,599 --> 00:34:15,039 I thought once I saw naked, yeah, I would have. I 548 00:34:15,039 --> 00:34:19,320 would have jumped in there. I would have been like he would just looked 549 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,880 and cannonball. I would have hit him. All even says it too, 550 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,199 like if you're not going to enjoy making, I can I come back? 551 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:29,719 You did? I would love to see She's like trying to motherfucker him, 552 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,199 like like yeah, I can do that too. And they're just swimming there 553 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,320 naked, and he's just like, well, what do we do now? 554 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,480 Like we're just here, Like imagine the whole episode, it's just them in 555 00:34:37,519 --> 00:34:39,480 the water having the conversation, but they're just naked, you know. So 556 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:45,519 this definitely went to one. Yeah one the guy last weekcause the arms and 557 00:34:45,559 --> 00:34:47,119 everything, he got lots of like fan cams and people to their store for 558 00:34:47,199 --> 00:34:50,920 him. So good for you. In this episode he looks good and good 559 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,800 for you gals and guys whoever was digging them because and I'm not saying I'm 560 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,599 not, I'm just saying like you got dig at the butt. They got 561 00:34:57,599 --> 00:34:59,800 a lot of stuff here. And then yeah, people that are already shipping 562 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:01,880 the too, as like the new Railo it's like, oh you're you're getting 563 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:07,440 that going on right now? So uh now there it doesn't sound the same. 564 00:35:08,199 --> 00:35:15,079 Yeah, uh so, hey you didn't also answer before you go? 565 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,920 Do you think what's the fate of ohsha here? Do you think she's gonna 566 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:22,079 turn? I wanted to. I just want we want a lot of things. 567 00:35:22,159 --> 00:35:28,400 The thing is, think that helmet smells like that's your second question when 568 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:37,840 you're done strawberries, strawberries, I rank like snotty, snotty, sweat work, 569 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,760 all that inside. Yeah, he probably usually swims with it, but 570 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,440 he wanted to like make a statement this time with his mask off. But 571 00:35:43,599 --> 00:35:45,519 he's especially I guess he did have to wear it a lot around may So. 572 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:53,480 But like he's just like just snotting all over the place for some reason. 573 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:57,880 Oh he's notting. It's so weird. Before I saw whatever the what's 574 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,199 the toy line that you like? Taylor Black Series? Black Series? So 575 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:05,000 last week after the episode put the Black Series helmet on sold though, But 576 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,000 up until that when I saw a picture of that and then this week, 577 00:36:08,679 --> 00:36:12,960 to me, the helmets always looked black. We're like to we're and if 578 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,039 you surprised, it was like a golden bronze thing, because up until last 579 00:36:15,079 --> 00:36:17,920 week, I was like, this is a black helmet, and the toy 580 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,840 line was not black, like, no, this is black, and now 581 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,199 this was like, it's bronze everywhere. This whole time I thought it was. 582 00:36:24,039 --> 00:36:27,800 I thought it was pretty dark, like there's a lot of red scratches 583 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,760 and such on it. I guess it's not as dark as maybe I thought. 584 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,800 I wouldn't say it's gold or bronze. Maybe I'll have to pull it 585 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,079 up again. Taylor's going, it's definitely bronze, right, Taylor, at 586 00:36:37,119 --> 00:36:40,800 least i'd say it's it's yeah, it's bronze for sure. That's how I 587 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,239 kind of felt last week because I thought, oh, it looks it looks 588 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,079 bronze. The first time you see it, though it looked black, but 589 00:36:47,199 --> 00:36:51,599 this is because of the lighting and the angles that they kind of were focusing 590 00:36:51,679 --> 00:36:53,079 on, so it looked darker at the start. But last week, for 591 00:36:53,159 --> 00:36:57,239 sure, it definitely felt lighter to me. How do you spell my boys 592 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:01,079 name? Here? Q? I am I are? This image is like 593 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:05,559 very bronze. So this is the black series one. Yeah, that's the 594 00:37:05,639 --> 00:37:07,639 one I'm saying. So last week they put that up. I was like, 595 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,639 I didn't see that in the last five episodes I've watched, and then 596 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,119 this week when he was working on in a light, it looked like it 597 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,320 was this color, so I guess it's been which that makes me do like 598 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:19,760 it actually more because I think when it was black it did look too similar 599 00:37:20,199 --> 00:37:22,519 to Kylo's helmet has like that similar shape and just in the face, like 600 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:27,719 doesn't have the nose. I'm still iffy on the teeth. I like the 601 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,800 teeth. I like the more than now. The more I see it, 602 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:37,239 it's like, but yeah, it's bronze and gold. I like the helmet 603 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,880 the more and more I see it, I really really do. Got your 604 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:45,280 armor confirmed in this episode by name Taylor Yeah, Cortosis Yeah, which completely 605 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:49,320 went over my head when they they announced it, but or we're not announced 606 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,199 it they unveiled it, because I was like, oh, what is this 607 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,159 was? But then a guind of Chat pointed out was Cortos because they didn't 608 00:37:53,159 --> 00:37:55,559 they didn't name drop it at the time, but oh, it's cool. 609 00:37:55,599 --> 00:38:01,199 I like that. It's looking back on it's something now more. I think 610 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,599 at the time I didn't appreciate it, but seeing some of the fights again, 611 00:38:04,679 --> 00:38:07,239 like Okay, that is something cool to it. Like I've I've probably 612 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:13,960 watched last week's episode at least six times, and I've watched the fight scenes 613 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,559 on repeat. I meant someone scored the fight scene with like John Williams Duel 614 00:38:17,599 --> 00:38:22,800 of Fates. I was like, pants are Gone, like it was amazing. 615 00:38:22,599 --> 00:38:30,119 But I just doing the boorreography of everything. But to answer your question, 616 00:38:30,639 --> 00:38:34,280 no, I I I think she will turn to the dark side. 617 00:38:34,679 --> 00:38:37,880 So okay, it's that's something like this, this this flip. I really 618 00:38:38,039 --> 00:38:40,480 like, I don't know how it's gonna go for May, but I think 619 00:38:40,559 --> 00:38:45,559 it's it's cool that we have this episode being just each twin, each sister 620 00:38:45,599 --> 00:38:50,519 start is basically on their own path with their opposite like with each other's masters. 621 00:38:50,599 --> 00:38:53,239 This is very cool of a dilemma that we're gonna see unfolded with the 622 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:58,159 next episode. So yeah, again, I I just think he's back to 623 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,400 Kimer. He's just he's so he's so fantastic. I really like him as 624 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:05,440 a character. And even then, like I got goosebumps kirk On imagine you 625 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,440 got goosebumps too, And she's like, oh what happened? How did you 626 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,519 get that scar? And he's like, oh, I was cast it away 627 00:39:10,599 --> 00:39:14,000 too. It was like, oh, you're Jedi master. And then he 628 00:39:14,159 --> 00:39:15,599 just looks at her. It's like no, no, no, please, 629 00:39:15,679 --> 00:39:21,599 like, oh what sith Lord fucking did this to you? Likes off this 630 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,440 puss off? What is the guy he was back on cofar that kal Knaka 631 00:39:24,599 --> 00:39:29,119 just sucked me up. No, what the j the gungan I messed some 632 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,800 gungan at a bar. I messed something gungon at a bar and he just 633 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,679 sucked up my back. But yeah, he did. It's funny tale you 634 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,079 got that thunderstra you share this And then it came to me, that's funny. 635 00:39:38,679 --> 00:39:40,880 She just told me at the store is hit the west side or the 636 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:46,880 storm the west side it's coming loving me. I'm on the west side windows 637 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,760 in this room. I can't see the two things. He real. Yeah, 638 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,320 he said that tear where he got that scar up for his Jedi master. 639 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:57,079 But he did reveal he was a Jedi a long time ago, which 640 00:39:57,119 --> 00:40:01,159 is some life stuff. But that's interesting because that's like plagis junior baby, 641 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:05,760 like who like how many of these people have Like I'm not saying he's his 642 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,320 alien type, but the real way that he said like a long time ago. 643 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:12,440 Made it sound like, yeah, he whether it's by power or a 644 00:40:12,599 --> 00:40:15,679 race, which he's looking like a human race, but like he insinuate. 645 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:17,639 The way the actor delivered the line made me think, oh, that long 646 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,400 time ago is not just like a oh yeah, ten years ago, it's 647 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,039 a long time like that makes it seem like it's longer than Osha could even 648 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:29,519 kind of compensate for inner mind right now. Right, But yeah, he 649 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:34,320 was a Jedi. We don't know what happened per se of why he left 650 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,679 or not. He said his master turned his back on him, though masters 651 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:42,840 in his back on him. Yeah, so was that implying his Jedi master, 652 00:40:43,079 --> 00:40:46,840 Like I like, honestly, it could even be there's a certain degree 653 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:51,039 of disdain he has for the Jedi, like he's got that that mentality he 654 00:40:51,039 --> 00:40:52,880 doesn't like them. So it could be maybe a Sith lord came in killed 655 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:58,239 his master and then he just looks as like my master was pathetic and got 656 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,480 killed and left me in a bad me or maybe his master just ran away, 657 00:41:01,559 --> 00:41:04,800 or I don't know. I feel like it's the car I read away 658 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:09,559 book. I feel like you kind of have this scenario where his master gets 659 00:41:09,639 --> 00:41:14,280 killed and leaves him for dead, and then you have a syth kind of 660 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:15,639 sneak in there, like you know, I can train you, I can 661 00:41:15,679 --> 00:41:21,679 help keep you safe, teach you whatnot. He's he's got a lot of 662 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,039 backstory that was kind of hinted at here that I just really want to get 663 00:41:24,079 --> 00:41:29,239 to know more about and to learn. So he's definitely becoming an intriguing character. 664 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,199 In the factor too, that he is much older than how he appears 665 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:37,119 to be makes me think, like, you know, what, what kind 666 00:41:37,199 --> 00:41:42,800 of plague as tenebrous life extension stuff do you got going on here? I 667 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,079 just get goosebumps thinking, of course, I don't have any foundation or factuality 668 00:41:46,159 --> 00:41:51,440 of this being concrete. I can only hypothetically think about this kind of stuff 669 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:57,320 where maybe his master's still alive. Obviously he's hinting at his master not Jedi, 670 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,079 but a dark Side user being the one to tea chimneys less doesn't give 671 00:42:00,119 --> 00:42:02,920 him these scars, and so I think, then it'd just be so cool 672 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:07,000 if the reason he really just wants to get that pupil now obviously is just 673 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,559 go and find his master and just overthrow his master, or you have the 674 00:42:10,639 --> 00:42:14,559 sense here too, Okay, if he was cast it out by his sith 675 00:42:14,679 --> 00:42:17,119 master, and maybe his sith master thought he left him for dead and he 676 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:22,480 managed to stay alive sneak away, And maybe you have a Plagis or a 677 00:42:22,559 --> 00:42:25,000 ten of Us with another I'm hoping it's Plagas. Maybe you have Plagas with 678 00:42:25,079 --> 00:42:29,159 like another apprentice at this time or something like I know Palpatine yet, but 679 00:42:29,199 --> 00:42:31,320 this is it's such a cool concept to think about. I did over the 680 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:36,159 past week learn that I guess Plagas at one point was looking at seven different 681 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,840 options for his apprentice before he decided on Palpatine. So you can always go 682 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:44,320 to that route where he was one of the people he was looking at and 683 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,000 it didn't go good, right, and then he gets killed off. But 684 00:42:46,559 --> 00:42:49,559 I think the only thing you do have to worry about, I know you 685 00:42:49,639 --> 00:42:52,239 want your fan theory of like a bigger Sith, which I think could happen 686 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,519 more. You guys pitched that last week and a more attuned to that now. 687 00:42:55,039 --> 00:42:59,119 I do think those scars looked a lot like a whip mark, and 688 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,800 I don't think it's no, it's not a coincidence that we also got to 689 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:07,679 see the whip light saber this episode the same that they're very odd scars. 690 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,800 It doesn't look like a lightsaber, like like a lights like the way they 691 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:15,119 cut, I don't think anyone would cut like that from their bonus. Yeah, 692 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:19,320 oh the wow, good, good for him. He pulled whatever. 693 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,719 That guy could be forced lightning too, right, like that would be Yeah, 694 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:27,000 I just thought it's a little peculiar that they showed that whip off and 695 00:43:27,199 --> 00:43:30,559 to me those could look like whip scars. And he's talking about that he 696 00:43:30,599 --> 00:43:32,159 did have a Jedi master at least, or he was. He was a 697 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,960 Jedi, so that would at least assume at one point even if he had 698 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:37,400 a Sith Master, he at least had a Jedi master as well too, 699 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:42,079 right, so that could be Vernestra maybe could be the master. Well that's 700 00:43:42,119 --> 00:43:45,440 who I'm Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I know, I'm I'm supporting. 701 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,480 You heard it here first. I got a good one for you. 702 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:54,159 You know what, that scar could be a whip a whip, yeah, 703 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:59,519 you know, we saw this episode. But the thing is, it could 704 00:43:59,519 --> 00:44:01,800 be like he starts to turn the dark side with his master and she messes 705 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:06,400 him up. Right, It could be like a Luke bend situation, but 706 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,880 Vnestra's goes through with it and tries to kill her apprentice. You know, 707 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:13,280 I don't know so well, she was very she was very coy in this 708 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:19,519 episode. Again, I feel like her cooi Mogu mog was his name. 709 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:25,559 This is the odd like whatever, the secondary guy who was working with Rnestra 710 00:44:25,639 --> 00:44:29,719 in this the other Jedi. Oh, you're just trying to say his name. 711 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,079 Yeah, his name is. You're making it sound like you said. 712 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,239 At one point you said her Mogue and I didn't know, like, is 713 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,079 that a different her, her apprentice guy whatever? He was tagging a lot. 714 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:43,199 There's the odd Jedi characters that appear in this show that are just they 715 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,159 really pull me out of it, and Mogue was one of them because when 716 00:44:46,199 --> 00:44:50,199 she does her whip and kills the bug, he's like, oh, oh, 717 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:57,760 maybe not like so orgasmic, but kill again. He's so just he 718 00:44:58,199 --> 00:45:04,639 pulls me killed. So but the thing is he's deducing the situation and Vernestra 719 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,800 is being coined the situation like, oh, that's a serious accusation. But 720 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,159 she wasn't even on board that it was soul. It still felt like in 721 00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:15,400 this moment of dialogue that she was supporting Saul being the victim here, but 722 00:45:15,519 --> 00:45:17,880 he was the one implying that maybe it was Soul, and she seemed to 723 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,679 let on like she again, she knows something more that's going on here. 724 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,280 So I feel like that adds to your theory. Maybe she did have some 725 00:45:24,519 --> 00:45:29,880 kind of affiliation with Chymeer, but it really depends. I wasn't expecting them 726 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,920 to find the bodies, but they don't know too that. Okay, this 727 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,800 was If Vernestra's that the whole theory doesn't pan outnce she doesn't know Chymera is, 728 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:39,679 then I feel like it was predicted. A while ago in the chat, 729 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:43,280 someone was pointing out how it could be sold and it doesn't look good 730 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,719 on Solt. He's just shut the colms off and he's blasted out of there, 731 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:51,079 so he looks suss sus By number one. Yeah, that was interesting. 732 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:53,719 Someone said that last week's Sorry, I can't give you credit for who 733 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,719 you are if you're watching it and let us know. But someone said, 734 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,960 oh, I think Soul's gonna be the complice, like or set up to 735 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:00,400 be the accomplice, and it'll all be pinned on him. I was like, 736 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,239 nah, I don't really see it that way. Now, it looks 737 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,639 like they could be going that way, so cret to you. I do 738 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,880 think they're doing it in a very easy way of like the guy just jumps 739 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:14,119 to it could be Soul and that's it, like they like and even then 740 00:46:14,199 --> 00:46:15,800 too, his calms are off, but he did like the guy said, 741 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:20,159 like, oh it was a faulty line. It wasn't just like he was 742 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,039 at the fucking course. And then Soul's running through the halls like, don't 743 00:46:23,079 --> 00:46:27,840 talk to me like that. I feel like it's a large leap to jump 744 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,519 to right away seeing this murder scene, right, and I guess their thing 745 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,920 was like, oh, well, Soul so talented, he's the one that 746 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:37,079 could have done this. It's like all right, I guess it just felt 747 00:46:37,119 --> 00:46:40,760 like a massive I'm not opposed to the idea. I think it's a massive 748 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:45,079 leap in this episode, but I think that's the show does this unfortunate where 749 00:46:45,079 --> 00:46:46,920 it gives you one line and then that's the direction they're going, like we've 750 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,800 seen with May, right, So I guess it could be it's just again, 751 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,239 how do they now even more jed I know about this, and they 752 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,159 like, what even if Soul gets set up. So it's like, what 753 00:46:55,239 --> 00:47:00,239 it's gonna be the reasoning for him kill Like that's how I need to see? 754 00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:01,440 Like what how are they gonna jump to, like this is the reason 755 00:47:01,519 --> 00:47:05,440 he killed a Jedi? Well, yeah, that's the reason. Is the 756 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:09,480 big the big question obviously that they keep avoiding because he's not explaining to the 757 00:47:09,559 --> 00:47:14,360 twins shout back at home and stuff like what like does everyone know the story? 758 00:47:14,639 --> 00:47:16,599 Let's say Soul did just kill the fucking witches, right, let's just 759 00:47:16,599 --> 00:47:20,239 say fuck them all up? Does Is that just calmnoledge for everybody then, 760 00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:22,840 that he killed these witches? I don't think so, because they kept himplying, 761 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:24,679 like even in this episode, he's like, I didn't tell I have 762 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,800 to talk to the High Count and come forward with what I did. So 763 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:31,000 no one really knows except maybe Vernessa. Well not even Vernestra. She might 764 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:35,199 she could. She's because she didn't even know there were boys, right, 765 00:47:35,679 --> 00:47:37,840 she has quo she didn't know there were twins. I think she knew about 766 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,920 the twins. I thought I thought she knew there was a dead twin. 767 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,599 That's what I think she knew. I think she I thought she knew that 768 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:51,679 she had a sister that had died and she awesome, I could. I 769 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:53,519 don't remember it that way, but I have to revisit the episode. My 770 00:47:53,639 --> 00:47:58,039 lights are flickering, so if I drop out any moment that that's what's happening. 771 00:47:58,199 --> 00:48:01,320 So a big storm. So one more thing just to add on to 772 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:05,559 that. So yeah, when he now is is to the council or says 773 00:48:05,559 --> 00:48:07,079 that he has to go in front of the council and kind of tell them 774 00:48:07,159 --> 00:48:13,679 everything. Oh fuck, did I lose my point? Oh fuck? Boys 775 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,880 the lightning hate you sports Lightning? Well, well, what do you think 776 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:23,360 about Venestra there and being potential Crimer's master anything? I liked that theory a 777 00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:28,000 lot. I did not think about that at all during the episode, So 778 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,920 thank you for pointing that out. Appreciate you. That's why we pay you 779 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:37,760 the most. One sent No, I I think it makes a lot of 780 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:43,920 sense, just based on like Dalton pointed out, like just her vibe I 781 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:47,599 think throughout the entire episode. See you didn't use this word particularly well, 782 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:54,119 but I think it was Sus. I think it was Sus because she was 783 00:48:54,159 --> 00:49:00,280 shown in this episode when we're like looking for a certain character that might be, 784 00:49:00,599 --> 00:49:05,760 you know, a master former master so I think if just like analyzing 785 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,719 show overall, like as a show overall, not just like a star warsh 786 00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:12,480 overall, like, it would make sense that that would be that character because 787 00:49:12,519 --> 00:49:15,840 we haven't really seen much of her other than this she's super sus Apparently she 788 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:21,280 gets carsick when she goes into hyperspace, but I don't think that's the only 789 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,800 reason why she would have been that sus and just being kind of cagey around 790 00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:27,800 Master Soul like she knows all. I mean, you guys know a lot 791 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,719 more about this character than I do, just from experiencing her in the books. 792 00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:35,079 But she was in the books we read, we know everything, Okay, 793 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,039 No, she was. I think she's in the more young adult novels, 794 00:49:38,119 --> 00:49:40,760 right, Taylor, because she was like a kid. Yeah, we 795 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:45,719 didn't read those ones, but her book has in it they go it all. 796 00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:52,519 Yeah, yeah, cover is just the helmet. Apparently her being like 797 00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:54,199 air sick is something that they carry her over from the books. So there 798 00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:58,719 you go. They're they're keeping with that canon. Cannon. Yeah yeah, 799 00:50:00,119 --> 00:50:02,039 and every once in a while, the I mean, since I'm talking about 800 00:50:02,039 --> 00:50:07,239 her, the whip blade, it looked cooler than I thought it was gonna 801 00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:13,559 look, honestly, I think we heard that. We heard that kicked me 802 00:50:13,599 --> 00:50:17,199 out already, just just fucking hit the button. I saw you're reaching it 803 00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:24,000 looked Are you fucking kidding me? It didn't look that bad now, Like 804 00:50:24,199 --> 00:50:30,360 it wasn't used that much. I imagine if we have like an extended fight 805 00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:34,480 scene, it would be a lot, but just her like shooting out. 806 00:50:34,599 --> 00:50:36,760 I don't know, it didn't look that bad. I I kind of liked 807 00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,559 it. Thumps down from Travis Snell. What do you think, Taylor? 808 00:50:39,599 --> 00:50:43,559 Do you like the whip? I got no problem with it? I really 809 00:50:43,599 --> 00:50:47,719 don't. I didn't got no problem with it. That's pretty good. Like 810 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:51,920 if I was if I if I'm a Jedi paddawan, I get to pick 811 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:53,679 my lightsaber here. I'm not running to the whip. I'll tell you that 812 00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:57,280 much. But if you're an expert with it, by all means, go 813 00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,800 for it. I'm I know what sabers I am using. I'm using dual 814 00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:04,800 wheels. That's how Kimer. Chimer got his scar. He tried to use 815 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:08,559 her her blade and he just fucking whipped himself. You can't even use that 816 00:51:10,599 --> 00:51:14,440 talking about her. Oh yeah, just just the tie. I think that 817 00:51:14,519 --> 00:51:16,480 makes a lot of sense. I think there's a lot more to be revealed 818 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:22,400 with that character, and I don't know, I'm hoping that it's I'm hoping 819 00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:27,079 that it's kind of like a like you can't really go back from what she's 820 00:51:27,119 --> 00:51:29,519 done going forward. It would just make the character, I think, really 821 00:51:29,599 --> 00:51:32,920 interesting, because right now she's just a green lady that kind of talks monotone 822 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:37,039 and gets sick in space travel. That's all I really know about her up 823 00:51:37,159 --> 00:51:38,559 until that point. See what I want, Let's say we do that full 824 00:51:38,599 --> 00:51:43,880 turn of the twin Switches and everything like that. Let's say the Dust settles 825 00:51:44,039 --> 00:51:46,039 episode eight, like it's pretty much over phase the Black, and then you 826 00:51:46,159 --> 00:51:50,280 kind of get an epilogue and you kind of get the same thing of Carrie 827 00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:58,159 on Moss where Venstra or whatever Ernestra Venestra she's sinning somewhere doing something and someone 828 00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,320 shows up and kills her when they take off the mask. It's fucking osha 829 00:52:00,559 --> 00:52:06,079 because she's doing the same thing that uh May was doing to like get into 830 00:52:06,199 --> 00:52:08,760 being a syth and stuff. But she's like gonna fulfit, like she's doing 831 00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:13,199 the better version of not maybeing like fight me and stuff like no, she's 832 00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,119 gonna like destroy them. That that's what I would love of Finestra gets killed. 833 00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,360 And then they show and I know it might not be the big reveal 834 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,280 because like they have the same face, but like they'll show that, like 835 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,360 you'll know that it's Osha and they're like, oh man, she's on the 836 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:28,559 way link. Because what I don't want. This is what I really don't 837 00:52:28,559 --> 00:52:30,679 want. I don't want them to turn Osha at the end of season and 838 00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:35,599 then episode one or two season two have her go back against it because I 839 00:52:35,639 --> 00:52:37,679 could see them just using I couldn't you see them though, using that as 840 00:52:37,679 --> 00:52:43,760 a cliffhanger for a season of her joining and then the next episode directly been 841 00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:45,840 like no act like like what they did right, Like actually, no, 842 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:47,400 I don't this is too far from me. And I could see them doing 843 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:52,519 that one hundred percent. That's like unforgiving that if they go that route, 844 00:52:52,639 --> 00:52:55,119 I that'd be the biggest case of blue Ball. And I think and like 845 00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,840 I want, first of all, I want her to switch, and I 846 00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:07,639 hope that it's like something that's like along the line, like there's no going 847 00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,079 back, like once she starts on this path, even if even if at 848 00:53:10,119 --> 00:53:13,920 the end, it's like a Darth Vader thing like on her deathbed, like 849 00:53:14,079 --> 00:53:16,159 maybe that maybe that where she's like I was r but like I don't even 850 00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,760 want that because we already had that before, like I wonder to die. 851 00:53:20,519 --> 00:53:23,039 I wanted to die thinking that the Jedi are the bad guys, and like 852 00:53:23,519 --> 00:53:29,320 like that is her alignment because we don't really get that, like at all 853 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:34,800 at all. It's always Actually Vader came back, he's in he's in space 854 00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:38,119 Heaven getting BJ's kylo Ren. We don't know what he did. Force goes 855 00:53:38,199 --> 00:53:40,360 away and I was gonna say, it's only the big bats, but I 856 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:44,719 forgot smoke with Palpatine, so he's probably in space Heaven right now. He 857 00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:51,239 probably said I I apologize on his deathbed, get thos getting is this good 858 00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,679 enough for your master? Finally much House the Dragon? So of course that's 859 00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:57,119 on my mind. Yeah. I was gonna ask though, because you're like, 860 00:53:57,159 --> 00:54:00,800 oh, there's no way back for so what's so like if Osha or 861 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:02,599 May turns, what's the way back for her? Because she legitimately killed the 862 00:54:02,679 --> 00:54:07,400 Jedi Master already May Yeah, remember she killed Carry more like she's I think 863 00:54:07,559 --> 00:54:13,280 she can easily come back. I think there's oh yeah, how would you 864 00:54:13,599 --> 00:54:15,840 live her whole life? Like buddy that doesn't say anything and just like meditates 865 00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:20,360 twenty for seven, I think yeah, or like helps her helps people for 866 00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:22,239 her whole life, I'd probably be a lot better than just not talking. 867 00:54:23,599 --> 00:54:27,559 That's a I'd have to see that whole episode. That's just like imagine if 868 00:54:27,639 --> 00:54:30,039 someone came and killed one of you guys, but then they came back and 869 00:54:30,079 --> 00:54:31,280 said, ah, no, I didn't mean it, and they're like, 870 00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:35,079 oh, you can be on the podcast, you know, yeah, okay, 871 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,519 I have to see that. I just that's always problem with Star Wars. 872 00:54:37,599 --> 00:54:42,679 I do not believe like if if they just may turns good and we 873 00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:46,079 can train her and she was on a dark they're not training her as a 874 00:54:46,159 --> 00:54:50,599 Jedi, she's gonna go to jail. That would be They never go to 875 00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:52,239 jail on these shows. No they don't. They don't, but I mean 876 00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,679 that would be her face. She's she's not gonna come out as as a 877 00:54:55,760 --> 00:55:00,320 Jedi, and that's not a chance because right now she's a fugitive of Soul 878 00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:02,840 and Soul has gone rogue, which doesn't look good. Both Soul and her 879 00:55:04,119 --> 00:55:06,840 just they don't look good. In this that's the rule of two. That's 880 00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,360 the new rule of two. There's gonna be another one. Fuck. I 881 00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:14,559 would love that if they revealed like Kimer the whole time was like her soul 882 00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,679 was like the Kimer's master, and he was secretly really he was pulling the 883 00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:21,480 strings, pushing. He's like, yeah, I killed those witches because I 884 00:55:21,559 --> 00:55:22,519 hate them all and stuff. It'd be great. By no way, they're 885 00:55:22,559 --> 00:55:27,159 not well. We still again, we need the answers. We still don't 886 00:55:27,199 --> 00:55:30,960 know why and how. Kimer knows so much about the twins history, which 887 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,679 is interesting. He knows a lot about Osha being a Jedi, which is 888 00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,920 interesting, especially because May thought Osha was dead and Osha thought maybe was dead 889 00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:44,199 obviously as well, but Kimier knew that was not the truth and kept that 890 00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,320 from May, which is interesting. So that's one thing. I just want 891 00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,599 to touch upon this before we get too far off of it. But with 892 00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:54,760 Vernestra and the other Jedi, it's interesting to see that the Senate is putting 893 00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:59,159 pressure on them and saying, hey, we're gonna do basically, we're gonna 894 00:55:59,159 --> 00:56:01,079 audit you the council. We need to do a thorough check of the Jedi 895 00:56:01,119 --> 00:56:06,000 and so it always already shows that they are not in a great place. 896 00:56:06,199 --> 00:56:08,559 Well this one center' is like, oh, the Jedi has always been transparent 897 00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:13,280 with the Republic and Yehia Yeada Yadha, so you got nothing to worry about 898 00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,440 the high But now there are a few episodes back, we know that they've 899 00:56:16,559 --> 00:56:21,280 already been kind of keeping it on the down low with certain things. So 900 00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,079 I like it because they've said many times this is the end of the Higher 901 00:56:25,159 --> 00:56:29,960 Public era and this is when the Jedi are really starting to kind of fuck 902 00:56:30,079 --> 00:56:36,239 up a little bit. And to all these naysayers out there, there was 903 00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,400 people freaking out, So I'm going for theaysayers. People were freaking out, 904 00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:43,679 but oh, you got seven Jedi they couldn't detect a dark Side user right 905 00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,760 right there. And like, man, I love the people that are supporting 906 00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:50,639 the show and they're like, yeah, well what about when Palpatine's Inn office 907 00:56:50,639 --> 00:56:52,440 attack of the Clones. You got seven Jedi masters sitting right in front of 908 00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:58,119 them. It's just it's a perfect thing and defensive Kymer as well. I 909 00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:01,880 love that his helmet was explained too, with the cortosis and how it basically 910 00:57:02,679 --> 00:57:07,639 eliminates his his vision but expands it at the same time to the force that 911 00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,920 just man, this guy is just fighting blind, he just feels more deadly, 912 00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,400 er and dangerous. I really love that. Also cool that they got 913 00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:19,159 a cortosis vein basically this little hide out that he's been mining and building his 914 00:57:19,679 --> 00:57:22,800 stuff out of. So I feel like to defend those people, even though 915 00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,039 I feel like that meme does have some warmedess. I think it's kind of 916 00:57:25,079 --> 00:57:28,639 like how I feel with Luke and how they make him less special. I 917 00:57:28,719 --> 00:57:32,159 feel like those people would argue, well, the reason the Jedi can't detect 918 00:57:32,159 --> 00:57:37,920 Palatine is because he's just that strong of a syth and a dark Side user. 919 00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,960 And if you do this, which just like chime here, then all 920 00:57:40,199 --> 00:57:44,679 Palpatine is just as strong as chime Here, and then again as the other 921 00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:45,920 route, which people have debated about all week. It's like, well, 922 00:57:46,519 --> 00:57:50,400 when Order sixty six happens, I know it's a lot of Jedi, but 923 00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,280 still Yoda feels that and no one feels these Jedi getting killed. So it's 924 00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:58,159 like it's very all over the place of what the Jedi can I can't feel 925 00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:00,679 there's because a lot of Jedi are at this time all over the galaxy, 926 00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:05,280 but this is like seven to eight at all once, and this probably hasn't 927 00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,880 happened a long time, which was kind of strange. I know, like 928 00:58:07,239 --> 00:58:09,599 even you said they did say this episode of like, oh, it could 929 00:58:09,639 --> 00:58:14,159 have been the natural terrain that killed them. So I guess I just felt 930 00:58:14,159 --> 00:58:17,519 it strange that they it didn't feel like a bigger It didn't feel like a 931 00:58:17,559 --> 00:58:21,480 bigger deal than Astra and the guy you liked, Mog there or whatever, 932 00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:27,400 Yeah, a big mog fan. When uh like, when they went through 933 00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,639 that, it actually seemed to me like it's like it's not that big of 934 00:58:30,719 --> 00:58:32,840 a well, it's a big deal that we lose Jedi, but like it's 935 00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:36,960 not out of the out of the real possibility, because they were like, 936 00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:40,639 yeah, there was whatever native specie that hatched, and they just well, 937 00:58:40,679 --> 00:58:45,360 that would make sense why we had mash mass casualties. It's like really really 938 00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:50,679 like that many Jedis get fucking bought by like natural flora. The Jedi just 939 00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:52,599 suck, that's what they make it sound. Really. Yeah, so that 940 00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:58,400 village got attacked, the Jedi probably got killed too. Yeah, well fuck 941 00:58:58,519 --> 00:59:01,079 yeah, I guess we said the b squad like Master Soul makes sense that 942 00:59:01,159 --> 00:59:04,519 he's still alive, but everyone else. Yeah, those were kind of bad. 943 00:59:05,159 --> 00:59:09,280 So, like to me, I think the argument of like, like 944 00:59:09,559 --> 00:59:13,599 last week when we were discussing this is like, isn't this insane that that 945 00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,880 many Jedi go missing? And like no one figures that it's Sith. Now 946 00:59:17,079 --> 00:59:22,039 it's like maybe a little bit more believability. However, they actually went there 947 00:59:22,119 --> 00:59:27,039 and started investigating and found the corpses with like lightsabers in their body. Now, 948 00:59:27,119 --> 00:59:31,320 if there isn't some crazy conspiracy theory that's attached to Venestra, I don't 949 00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:34,880 even know what the fuck the Jedi are doing at this point in time, 950 00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:38,480 because like, how do they not put two and two together that there's well, 951 00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:42,440 I don't know what they call it Sith, that's what they're thinking. 952 00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,559 They're thinking that for some reason, Soul snapped and decided to take out all 953 00:59:45,599 --> 00:59:50,440 these people, which that's why we in these two episodes. Yeah, in 954 00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,719 these two episodes. I need to know why they would think that, Like 955 00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:57,760 would Taylor answered to me if I guess, let's say again, Soul murdered 956 00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,920 all these witches and it's a known fact, and maybe I could see someone 957 01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:02,480 being like, yeah, remember ten years ago when he just mastered those people. 958 01:00:02,719 --> 01:00:06,760 Soul has done this before. But if it's not a known fact and 959 01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:09,599 it's just good Master Soul, who's a couple of days ago teaching our young 960 01:00:09,679 --> 01:00:15,159 lings, has a whole class of teaching young lings, then what's happening here? 961 01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,719 Like I need a really good reason of why they can buy him as 962 01:00:19,159 --> 01:00:22,639 the guy who turned because up unto now, there's nothing that would show signs 963 01:00:22,679 --> 01:00:25,360 of it's not even before like oh, Soul, he's a rebel, like 964 01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:30,239 the Council, like if they showed actively at the Jedi Council, the Jedi 965 01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:32,199 Academy, like people don't like him or don't trust him. Maria's kind of 966 01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:36,760 reckless. It's like, no, he got sent them multiple like missions, 967 01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:37,719 even when they're like, oh, this might be a bit emotional for you, 968 01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:39,920 like I can do it, and they're like, okay, we trust 969 01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:43,880 you. But I think that's that's the turning point there is because it's getting 970 01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:50,800 emotional for him and you have the return of a return of a girl that 971 01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:52,519 was part of his past here that was supposed to be dead, and so 972 01:00:52,599 --> 01:00:58,760 many things are just escalating so fast here for him. And again too, 973 01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:01,280 it looks really dark and this went over my head at the time. I 974 01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:07,000 kind of forgot about it, but just his super emotional, compromising state of 975 01:01:07,119 --> 01:01:10,400 mind when Jeckie died, because I totally forgot if he is his apprentice, 976 01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:15,960 it was his padawan, and yeah, it was losing her was super devastating 977 01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:20,480 for him. And so which I wanted to bring up is that, and 978 01:01:20,559 --> 01:01:23,519 I'm saying full on Jedi, is that the most emotional we've ever seen a 979 01:01:23,599 --> 01:01:30,559 Jedi in live action. He's slamming his fist, He's killed Huskin Raider village 980 01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:37,119 because he was emotional. Joe, You're pretty emotional, Okay, barring Anakin, 981 01:01:37,199 --> 01:01:40,639 because I don't think the point of that story was Anakin's emotional getting to 982 01:01:40,679 --> 01:01:45,320 the dark side. I don't think Soul is going to the dark side. 983 01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:50,440 So Wren, I'd say, because he smashed his helmet like no, he 984 01:01:50,559 --> 01:01:53,320 was the Knights of Wren. Then he raised on Jedi that point, in 985 01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:58,480 my opinion, Luke once he became like Jedi night with the black like he 986 01:01:58,599 --> 01:02:04,159 was pretty Stone Coals, ridses Skywalker, Ray just destroys the tie fighter on 987 01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:07,159 ash Too and just throws the lightsaber in there. Is she a Jedi that 988 01:02:07,199 --> 01:02:09,480 point, I guess, Oh, she's a jet, she's been trained by 989 01:02:10,039 --> 01:02:14,320 Layash, she's got built her lightsaber, and I guess Obi Wan is pretty 990 01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:17,800 emotional when Anakin's burning up like a marshmallow. So he was pretty He just 991 01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:22,440 he did a beard stroke when he Anakin was burning up. He helped needed. 992 01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:30,360 You don't discount you McGregor's great acting one. Yeah, I guess I 993 01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:34,679 just thought again it is just like I still feel like it is on the 994 01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:37,119 more rare side to see a Jedi that worked up and with tears. So 995 01:02:37,199 --> 01:02:39,559 I like, I like seeing that's not a pro, like that's not conn. 996 01:02:39,599 --> 01:02:43,119 I like seeing it because it shows how much notly just apprentice. I 997 01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:45,519 just like souls. Like he's had a tough seventy two hours, you know, 998 01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:50,480 like, yeah, he's lost all these Jedi, that girl he trained, 999 01:02:50,519 --> 01:02:55,519 came back stuck with this suck fuck Basil sniff and everything. He thinks 1000 01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:00,039 got so much screen time in this show. Yeah he may that the girl 1001 01:03:00,159 --> 01:03:02,639 is dead's back and now there might be a sit or Dark Side user. 1002 01:03:02,719 --> 01:03:06,280 So yeah, it's been tough. I was gonna ask so Basil the whole 1003 01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:08,360 time, I don't know, he's running around. He's just humping me's leg 1004 01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:10,920 at one point, I don't know, and I hate that comedic beat when 1005 01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:14,960 that happened. Then she like squirted in the face, but like it was 1006 01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:19,000 like home alone tears. Yeah, he was like what it felt so weird 1007 01:03:19,039 --> 01:03:22,719 because we're going back and forth between that and like the serious scene of Chimere 1008 01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:27,039 and Osha talking to like, oh my god, but like, so did 1009 01:03:27,079 --> 01:03:32,920 it really? So? At one point he shoots her. Soul shoots May 1010 01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:37,239 and he figures it out and you know there's a but we already went over 1011 01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:38,760 this. He tries to tell like three times something happens. He tries to 1012 01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:43,320 tell the council, you know, whatever connection is shoes, but he shoots 1013 01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:45,639 her. Did he shoot her because he figured it out? Or did he 1014 01:03:45,679 --> 01:03:50,400 shoot because Basil told him? I think because Basil told him, fuck man, 1015 01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:59,840 But because Basil wasn't that scene when she went down Basil's right besides Seul, 1016 01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:01,400 I was like, fuck he did tell him? Didn't because he's in 1017 01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:04,239 on it, But like it doesn't make sense because I was getting confused, 1018 01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:10,840 like, Okay, well, Soul had to fix the transceiver, I guess 1019 01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:13,480 whatever it's called to get the calms back up. He went into that, 1020 01:04:13,679 --> 01:04:15,679 and then all of a sudden, the ship just died, and then we 1021 01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:19,440 get to a scene of Osha or May going to fix it, and we 1022 01:04:19,559 --> 01:04:25,119 got Basil just doing fucking who knows what, just breaking the ship, Like 1023 01:04:25,199 --> 01:04:29,159 what the fuck is this guy doing? Uh, like his first inkling. 1024 01:04:29,199 --> 01:04:31,079 I don't know why. We got the scene of him repairing Pip and then 1025 01:04:31,159 --> 01:04:40,079 Pip just going off with May. He knows something wrong. But fucking Basil's 1026 01:04:40,159 --> 01:04:44,400 hiding from a soul as well, like he's just being super cryptic. He's 1027 01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:46,599 crawling. We got a weird scene of him crawling through the vents with his 1028 01:04:46,719 --> 01:04:51,639 flashlight and May following him, and it's just completely irrelevant because it transitions to 1029 01:04:51,719 --> 01:04:58,360 a scene or Soul is like, oh shakamere uh just weird character Basil is. 1030 01:04:58,599 --> 01:05:00,559 I don't know, being that it was like a slight a high end 1031 01:05:00,639 --> 01:05:04,239 moment, like there were like switched out pit for like a different pit and 1032 01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:09,239 then that's what she resets. But I don't think that's is the case. 1033 01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:12,280 I think it's just yeah, no, he was in there for some commedic. 1034 01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:15,239 Really, Vasol is the Sith Master, I know, such a freak, 1035 01:05:16,639 --> 01:05:20,519 such a freak battle. I wanna fight me either, you wanna sniff 1036 01:05:20,639 --> 01:05:26,119 me either? Is there? I just again, I'm not trying to be 1037 01:05:26,239 --> 01:05:28,039 like what Kirkleans said, you don't want a backdoor, right, But I 1038 01:05:28,159 --> 01:05:31,239 just wish that next week we're gonna get the whole thing of you know, 1039 01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:34,920 what happened with Soul and the witches. I wish that that very beginning that 1040 01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:38,760 Basil sniffed her out right away, or Soul finds out, they take her 1041 01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:41,239 out, they lock her up, And I think what a great episode would 1042 01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:45,599 have been of going back and forth between Chimere and Osha talking about the you 1043 01:05:45,679 --> 01:05:48,599 know, dark side, all this stuff, and then Soul explaining his actions 1044 01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:54,000 other than like again the dark more personal stuff to like the comedic home alone 1045 01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:57,559 stuff. I think this episode would have been even better if imagine that going 1046 01:05:57,639 --> 01:06:00,679 back and forth between those two stories and really seeing and that's what I thought 1047 01:06:00,719 --> 01:06:03,039 we're gonna get, because like, oh, we're seeing like different versions of 1048 01:06:03,079 --> 01:06:08,960 a master Apprentice or the forming of one. But really it was just fucking 1049 01:06:09,159 --> 01:06:12,440 May running around trying not to be discovered and a lot of like hyjinks going 1050 01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:15,239 on in Soul. Great job by the actor looking very emotionally distraught, trying 1051 01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:18,239 to make a call. And why do you think he I guess he just 1052 01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:23,440 wanted to tell May. Why did he like turn off his columns and like 1053 01:06:24,599 --> 01:06:27,960 what is it? Hyperspace? Hyper speed out of there, questionable move I 1054 01:06:28,039 --> 01:06:38,280 feel I have absolutely no idea. Uh. I feel like it just adds 1055 01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:42,480 to the fact that maybe Vernestra and the other jed I don't know everything and 1056 01:06:42,679 --> 01:06:46,760 he ah, yeah, he just for whatever reason. We it's hard, 1057 01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:49,679 like we don't know why what he's holding on the inside, So we don't 1058 01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:53,400 know what his motivations are. We don't know why he needs to just be 1059 01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:57,320 alone with May, like you're gonna sit here and listen to the things I 1060 01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:02,000 have to say, because he's gonna try and justify his actions. I guess 1061 01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:09,480 it's just it's weird seeing a Jedi do this, But it goes hand in 1062 01:07:09,559 --> 01:07:13,360 hand with what Kimer was basically saying, like I've embraced my darkness, what 1063 01:07:13,519 --> 01:07:15,079 have you done with yours? And so this is him embracing his darkness. 1064 01:07:15,079 --> 01:07:19,960 I guess are getting it out on the table. Yeah, yeah, it's 1065 01:07:20,199 --> 01:07:26,559 it's hard to say at this point. Yeah, is there anything else we 1066 01:07:26,679 --> 01:07:39,400 haven't covered on this episode. M I found it humorous that the entire sequence 1067 01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:42,960 between Osha and chime here, it seemed like it was like a nine out 1068 01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:45,039 of ten episode for me, and then everything else is like a two out 1069 01:07:45,079 --> 01:07:47,559 of ten. It's just like like three out of ten. Like it's just 1070 01:07:47,639 --> 01:07:54,880 such a a shift on, specifically with Twin. With Twin, what Twin 1071 01:07:55,639 --> 01:08:01,000 is exciting for me and like intriguing to follow Twin is not me. I 1072 01:08:01,159 --> 01:08:08,360 am not very curious what they're gonna do with that character. I think she's 1073 01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:11,599 gonna die. I kind of hope she does, but for me, there's 1074 01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:15,039 I really don't see a path for me being invested in that character. For 1075 01:08:15,199 --> 01:08:19,239 with what they have presented so far, I think she dies, and they 1076 01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:25,319 give that one reason for Osha not to not to go back to the good 1077 01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:28,279 side, even though the show would probably use it as the reason for her 1078 01:08:28,319 --> 01:08:30,039 to go back to the good side, right like kid here will kill her 1079 01:08:30,039 --> 01:08:32,039 out of anger, and then she'd be like, no, the dog's that 1080 01:08:32,239 --> 01:08:35,279 is bad and I'm gonna go back with Master Soul, and Soul will be 1081 01:08:35,399 --> 01:08:39,119 like the Anakin thing, Well, there's my apprentice, and I have to 1082 01:08:39,119 --> 01:08:41,159 take her on I do think that maybe Soul will make it back up. 1083 01:08:41,159 --> 01:08:43,800 They're trying to frame him, so yeah, I don't know. And again 1084 01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:46,319 and with her, Soul is a death sentence in my eyes, like there's 1085 01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:51,159 no way that he can just end this on the Jedi Council just carry and 1086 01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:56,119 that's sorry to cut you off. He's gonna die and take the knowledge of 1087 01:08:56,119 --> 01:08:59,479 the Sith with them, like no one else is gonna unless Vernestra has some 1088 01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:04,920 kind of connection to Krime here, it's gonna die, yeah, I think 1089 01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:08,319 so, Like, sorry, did they confirm I can't remember. Did they 1090 01:09:08,359 --> 01:09:11,079 confirm a second season? No? Ten seasons? No? Yeah, I 1091 01:09:11,119 --> 01:09:17,000 don't. I I feel like we're damn all of this character, the character 1092 01:09:17,159 --> 01:09:19,720 made for ten. I think they're just rap. They're gonna wrap it up 1093 01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:24,159 in this season. Whatever Kyler Ren's theme song is involved, Like, I 1094 01:09:24,239 --> 01:09:29,600 don't apparently that is that gonna be wrapped up in this season. I don't 1095 01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:32,479 know, but what he looked up like he's just gonna look at it and 1096 01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:39,720 be like you want to be a Knight of Wren. I just don't like 1097 01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:44,520 the concept of these showrunners creating a season of a show and leaving it completely 1098 01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:47,680 open ended without that like guarantee of a second follow up season, because then 1099 01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:50,439 you're what do you then you get the comic book runs that follow it up 1100 01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:55,399 all that jazz. So also, I'll want to be clear. I'll clarify 1101 01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:58,159 because I'm the number one Kyler fanboy in the world and I didn't talk about 1102 01:09:58,159 --> 01:10:00,479 this in the non spoilers. I am not for this idea at all. 1103 01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:03,520 The Knights of Wren being a thing right now, I think that is some 1104 01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:09,039 of the biggest cannon bullshit. Like to tell me, the group that Kyla 1105 01:10:09,079 --> 01:10:14,399 Wren joins pre dates Plagueuts and Palpatine. That's some of the biggest Disney Like 1106 01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:16,319 we want to make our Star Wars feel more important. So it's like, 1107 01:10:16,399 --> 01:10:20,359 you know, those Nights Wren guys, they were actually here before Palpatine. 1108 01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:25,720 They're really important. Like if they do that ship with Cameer, No, 1109 01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:29,039 that's an instant point down as well, Like I hate that. So I 1110 01:10:29,119 --> 01:10:31,159 hate when they do that. Show you something you're gonna get, You're gonna 1111 01:10:31,239 --> 01:10:35,960 last, You're gonna laugh. This is official canon, a comp Palpatine meeting 1112 01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:42,760 the Knights of Brend. He fucks them up. It's so good. Really, 1113 01:10:43,239 --> 01:10:46,960 he's just electric because this is this is I don't know, go back 1114 01:10:47,039 --> 01:10:57,640 up as you remembers pars to when Austin gets that's An's mojoy. So really 1115 01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:00,920 they've made this is Wren himself, you know, and some people thought that 1116 01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:03,239 might be krimier eventually because look at it. Look it's the same thing those 1117 01:11:03,399 --> 01:11:08,840 arm he's jacked, he has the one whatever gauntlet, and he has a 1118 01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:12,760 cape and he has a helmet. So like, really they like again for 1119 01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:15,479 me, I throw out this cancast stuff because they don't care about they'll change 1120 01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:17,479 everything. But I don't like the fact that the Knights rent it around. 1121 01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:21,760 He recruits them too, see Palpatine's like, I'm sure we will put able 1122 01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:27,199 to put you to excellent use. I don't like it recruits them. Yeah, 1123 01:11:27,199 --> 01:11:30,399 they're all getting fucking toasted. They're just going to space heaven right now. 1124 01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:32,439 It's like, yeah, stupid, that's stupid. I don't like that. 1125 01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:34,560 So but again, they have done the live action everything, so if 1126 01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:40,800 they do that here, then it's just another dumb thing because it it I 1127 01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:44,720 still don't like as usual I said before, just and there's stuff in Georgia's 1128 01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:46,680 Stars I don't like. But I in general, leave George's stuff alone and 1129 01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:51,199 just move forward or very very far back, leave the fucking one to six 1130 01:11:51,279 --> 01:11:56,800 alone. I could maybe excuse it if we had finished Single Trojan and we're 1131 01:11:56,840 --> 01:11:58,920 like, man, the Knights are Rent, are fucking aweso, and they 1132 01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:00,840 made them cool, they give them the great story, then I would kind 1133 01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:03,319 of be down for Oh there is this lineage Knights Rent. But because of 1134 01:12:03,359 --> 01:12:06,119 what they did for them, I just hate as they go. Yeah, 1135 01:12:06,159 --> 01:12:10,560 they were like why could they have been? Like why they have to be 1136 01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:13,079 around while Vader and Palpatine are there? Why couldn't they have been a group 1137 01:12:13,119 --> 01:12:16,600 that came up in the four to or say the six to seven era, 1138 01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:19,119 Like why is that a thing that has to happen? Oh? What do 1139 01:12:19,159 --> 01:12:26,560 you show me now here? Okay, so that there's a character called Wren. 1140 01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:32,119 That's yeah, so the Knights of Wren Charge. It's just it's like 1141 01:12:32,159 --> 01:12:35,119 they want him to be that guy from Knights a Little Old Republic too. 1142 01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:41,880 Star Sign had a bit more fucked up though. This guy's still some skin 1143 01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:47,960 dark Sign. Sorry, look at all crusty there right before he just zaps 1144 01:12:48,039 --> 01:12:54,760 him in the face. Oh yeah, you my mojo. No one takes 1145 01:12:54,840 --> 01:13:05,359 my mojo and Osha that's who are there? I don't know. We're playing 1146 01:13:05,399 --> 01:13:10,159 with deadly were we talk about all these things and how it could work out 1147 01:13:10,239 --> 01:13:13,760 positive. I mean, I'm not gonna be positive. I don't have the 1148 01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:15,239 faith because then giving me the faith, So I just don't What are you 1149 01:13:15,279 --> 01:13:19,760 show me? Now? That's Luke and Kylo, Luke and Ben solo versus 1150 01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:24,279 Ret like a little bach in the corner there. Okay, first of all, 1151 01:13:24,319 --> 01:13:26,880 don't talk about that old guy like that. Ben has his lights here? 1152 01:13:27,039 --> 01:13:30,600 Ben is Oh you said, who is? I thought you were talking 1153 01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:32,000 about Kylo. I'm like, he has his lights saving a little bit. 1154 01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:38,199 I think that's the guy. Isn't that Sinteca or whatever? The guy that 1155 01:13:39,319 --> 01:13:42,920 make things right? Yeah? Which did you hear in the last episode of 1156 01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:45,279 the Star Wars comic It's gonna be a comic focus on Luke and Ben. 1157 01:13:46,119 --> 01:13:49,640 Luke and Ben. Yeah, so like for Star Wars fifty. But see 1158 01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:53,960 this is fine to me in the era of like Ben and Luke training together, 1159 01:13:54,279 --> 01:13:56,520 this is a great foe for them. But yeah, the Knights of 1160 01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:59,840 Friends start, I don't need them in the fucking like dark times and Knights 1161 01:14:00,279 --> 01:14:03,359 and this is what they're gonna do. There you go, that's who's a 1162 01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:13,199 chad. That's ky God damn is gonna look Kymer's gonna look even better in 1163 01:14:13,399 --> 01:14:19,119 thirty years, you know. So that's that's what people are theorizing that this 1164 01:14:19,199 --> 01:14:24,920 could be Wren. Alright, start because what else would you do? I 1165 01:14:25,199 --> 01:14:27,880 asked this Krooklam. They played the Nights of Ren and Leslie Headlin says, 1166 01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:29,920 well, we did for a reason. What's the reason, then, Kirkland, 1167 01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:33,199 I already told you I have no idea that if I'm put her in, 1168 01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:39,800 put her in, put myself in her shoes. Reason, I'm gonna 1169 01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:48,560 say that that is Wren time here here Wren. Like honestly, now that 1170 01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:53,720 I've seen images like that's probably like sixty five percent chance that that is the 1171 01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:59,000 case, probably even more sixty nine just to get a round number. So 1172 01:15:00,119 --> 01:15:02,600 yeah, that is rare. Do you think that right now? It's different 1173 01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:10,399 though, because like does he just change like nationality? Like up again, 1174 01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:14,800 he could look red, was absolutely white. He just gets zapped and he 1175 01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:19,880 just comes out white. That's just a white fucking iron jaw. As well, 1176 01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:25,399 like zac Efron after surgery, I can say you could try to stretch 1177 01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:31,119 and see he looks like a non white individual maybe you know, I don't 1178 01:15:31,159 --> 01:15:33,479 know. Go to that other image. Actually no, not that one. 1179 01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:41,680 Go up scroll up? Uh which no, down in the center? Yeah 1180 01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:45,359 that one. Well, he's a mask and we can't that's kinming right there, 1181 01:15:45,399 --> 01:15:49,039 I can. That doesn't help us. That's a sick shot though. 1182 01:15:49,159 --> 01:15:53,359 God, yeah, some of this comic book. I'm gonna be reading this 1183 01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:56,359 later. Oh yeah, you gotta read up with the Knight's friend. But 1184 01:15:56,399 --> 01:15:58,920 yeah, I don't care if they brace swamp and whatever. They've changed stuff 1185 01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:00,600 in the books. They've killed care the books and brought them alive and cannon 1186 01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:03,600 so they don't give a fuck, and neither do I anymore. You know, 1187 01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:08,560 just like the as I said fucking when we started this podcast years ago, 1188 01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:12,880 and as I've been proven right again and again again, hashtag cannon does 1189 01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:15,199 not matter. They don't give a fuck about it. For the most part, 1190 01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:18,960 caddymid, it really doesn't matter. You haven't seen the sit in the 1191 01:16:19,039 --> 01:16:23,159 millennia, which I know people are like, oh, well, this could 1192 01:16:23,239 --> 01:16:25,439 just be anything. I get it. But I just feel like there's a 1193 01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:28,479 guy that like he heard it and like he has no other suspicion, like 1194 01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:31,279 these Jedi died and whatever. It's fine. It's all from a certain point 1195 01:16:31,279 --> 01:16:35,520 of view, right, So yeah, we'll be here next week, breaking 1196 01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:41,079 down the actte see what's gonna happen. See if he becomes Alpha, chat 1197 01:16:41,159 --> 01:16:45,079 over there, what might happen. We got two episodes left. Good God, 1198 01:16:45,239 --> 01:16:48,000 let's hope they somehow bring this to a strong close. But I think 1199 01:16:48,039 --> 01:16:51,560 it's I don't know. I think we're we're we're in danger. We're in 1200 01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:55,960 deep waters right now. So we'll be back next week, and I promise 1201 01:16:56,039 --> 01:16:57,439 you it'll not be boring.