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You're listening to KFI AM six forty
on demand. Catherine, Welcome to the

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Jesus Christ Show. Jesus Hi,
I have a question. Actually, now

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I have two, and I'm wondering
if I could switch. Well, we're

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very very very short on time,
so why don't you trade the first one

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first? But I'm glad that the
show is making you think. Huh,

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I'm glad that the show is making
you think. That's a good thing.

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It is. The first one was
is God? If Jesus is the Son

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of God and God Jesus also see
iss to be God in flesh? How

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is that? How's that possible?
Well? One is the title that is

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used not only prophetically saying you know
that the Son of God will come,

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but throughout throughout scripture you'll see that
term used for me specifically as the unique

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Son of God, not just sons
of God or daughters of God, which

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is every believer, but specifically talking
about the Son of God. Matthew twenty

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six sixty three. Yes, it
is, as you say, I reply,

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as talking to the high priests that
are asking me, they're charging me

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under oath by the Living God,
say, are you the Christ, the

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Son of God? And I say, yes, it is as you say.

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But I say to all of you, in the future you will see

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the Son of Man sitting at the
right hand of the Mighty One and coming

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into the clouds. Son of Man, son of God, interchangeable in this

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context. But it's talking about me
having the nature of God and being God.

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And that's why if you read on
in Matthew twenty six sixty five through

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sixty six, also John nineteen seven, that you will see that the law

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that it talks about there that I
have broken is the law of blasphemy because

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I'm claiming to be God by using
that term being the son of God.

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It's not the same type of son
and daughter that you'd think about in the

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human sense. It's not that,
oh, well, you know, God

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met Mary and Mary and God had
a relationship and had a child. That's

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not what it's about. It's about
the unique nature of God is in me

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his son, and we are one
and the same, and that gets into

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the trinity. I realize, which
complicates matters some more. But for the

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sake of time, to understand that
that term being used is a term claiming

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that I am God, not just
the son of God, but that I'm

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one exactly with his nature. Stephen. Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.

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Good morning Jesus. Hi Stephen,
what's going on? Hey? I have

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a theology question. My wife suffers
from multiple sclerosses. And a friend of

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mine who is a varied about Christian
as I you know, am as Well,

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told me and perhaps it's, you
know, something generational. And I

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didn't quite understand what he meant.
And his wife elaborated a little more on

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it, and she she mentioned how
she was sick one time, very sick.

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A couple of her elders prayed over
her and realized that through their prayer

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they said that they're her ancestors.
Shimmed and that's because she's the reason why

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she's sick. And I don't believe
that, because I believe, you know,

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this is what God ordained me for
us to have. But you know,

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there is some scripture that goes along
with it. I suppose that I

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wanted to get your take on it
so you can help me clarify this.

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Now, this seems to be something
that is reoccurring, Stephen, that is

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that that people often look for outside
reasons. I mean, this is nothing

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new in John chapter nine, first
one, and you probably remember a story,

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and I'll read it to you.
It says, and as he passed

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by, he saw a man blind
from birth, and his disciples asked him,

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saying, Rabbi, who's sinned this
man or his parents that he should

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be born blind? Jesus answered,
it was neither that this man sin nor

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his parents, but it was in
order that the works of God might be

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displayed in him. So there's a
lot of infirmity in scripture that Paul,

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for instance, with a thorn in
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that isn't pointing to a particular sin. Now, you could argue that all

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sickness comes from sin, because that's
not the way humans were designed. But

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and yes, it's generational in the
sense that it's passed down that sick genetics,

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illnesses, things like that come from
the pollution of the human body and

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cause things that weren't supposed to be
there before. That's why they're mutations.

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But so in the big sense,
yes, all things come from sin in

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that sense. But to say that
it's some sort of family curse or something

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generational that's passed down through sin,
no, it's not fair. To say

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that that's an excuse not to participate
in your well being, not to figure

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out, you know, how to
get healthier, or if there is a

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lifelong illness or heaven forbid, a
life threatening illness, that you can understand

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the weight of it in its context
rather than overly spiritualizing it. That doesn't

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mean that there aren't oppressions, spiritual
oppressions and demonic oppressions, not possessions,

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but oppressions that weigh people down or
things like that that can be prayed over

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and removed. But really that that's
a separate issue from day to day illnesses

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that people get, and sometimes people
overly spiritualize them and they think that they're

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doing that to glorify God. A
lot of times people do that to glorify

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themselves, to be a part of
it and saying no, we don't have

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to bow to this, and I
can get you through this, and that

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ends up twisting down a whole different
other path. But really, you've got

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to trust God and see God's glory
in the good and the bad. I

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don't know why people assume that only
the good things glorify God. Even illness

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points to the glory of God.
Obviously, I said so, and John

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that I just read to you.
There's that context of saying, no,

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God is glorified in these things too. There's other scriptures that say that you

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should rejoice in your trials and tribulations
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it's one of those things that I
think sometimes Christians can get overly spiritualized on.

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It's not that sin doesn't pass along
through the butt bloodline. It's not

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that sin isn't something that becomes generational
and has passed down because it is.

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I mean, there's just the way
things you teach your children and all of

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these things. But in the sense
of thinking of it more like a curse

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is to belittle the power of the
Blood of Christ in the first place,

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and to say that, you know, everyone's going to go through these things.

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It's all under the blood. And
it's never about the flesh or being

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healthy in that sense, because I
say specifically, I fear not he who

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can kill the flesh, but he
who can kill the spirit. So it's

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always about the spiritual health of the
individual. And I'm so sorry to hear

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about the illness to begin with.
But God can be seen and can be

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glorified in all those things and that
should you should never lose sight of that

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and know that God is present even
in the sickness, and that it's not

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always about curing everything, because not
everyone gets cured. Hello Jesus him thirty

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five years old and I was raised
Roman Catholic, my baptism, Communion,

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Confirmation, my mom actually taught Catechism
for seventeen years. But I also consider

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myself homosexual. But I seem to
have lost my way with the Roman Catholic

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Church, and I was just seeing
if there was any possible way, guess,

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to get back into the Roman Catholic
Church, even you know, based

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on I guess just what I just
told you. Well, this program,

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we do our part not to speak
for any particular church, but you know,

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no, no, no, don't
be but to focus on the broader

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truths in scripture. And I will
tell you this, I want you back

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in the church now. If you
choose that to be the Catholic Church or

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Protestant Church, that's up to you. But do I want to have a

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relationship with you. Absolutely. And
unfortunately, the church in many different forms,

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both Protestant and Catholicism, has been
heinous to the gay community and the

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way that they have reached out and
or not reached out, or wait,

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they have treated the gay community is
abhorrent to God. And in that sense,

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it's absolutely important that you go and
you listen, but you keep this

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in mind. I get these attitudes
from people all over the place, and

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not just the gay community, but
every community you can think of that wants

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to go into the church with their
arms crossed saying, God, I want

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you to be the way I want
you to be. And that's not fair

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either. So as much as you
are absolutely welcomed and I want you to

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be in the church, go in
with that openness and that desire to hear

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what God has to say for you
and to learn from that and to grow

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with that, and not go in
there with a particular set or an agenda

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as to what you want out of
God, but what God wants out of

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you. But I think that's the
biggest part of being in a church is

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sometimes you go in with that expectation
of Okay, God, what are you

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going to do for me? And
I don't want it to be that kind

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of relationship. It's it should be
what do you have to teach me?

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What can I learn? And those
things become incredibly important. And if you

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go in there with an attitude or
kind of this is you know, this

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is what I want from you God, I think that that all is lost

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at that point. I've had people
call me on the program with questions and

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say, what does the Bible say
about this? And you can just hear

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in the tone of their voice that
it that they're not going to listen to

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it. So the natural question is, well, if it says that you

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shouldn't do something, or it says
that you should do something, would you

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adhere to it? And if you
say no, then don't bother with it

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on any part of your life.
But if you want to go and receive

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God, if you want to go
and strengthen your relationship with God, absolutely,

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But on the note of homosexuality,
on the note of the way that

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the church treat has treated the gay
community, there are some asinine statements that

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are made on behalf of me and
in my name that are absolutely absolutely from

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the pit of hell, and the
way that the gay community has been treated

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and ostracized and treated differently and set
apart and not welcomed, not in all

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churches. I know that there's one
wonderful churches. And it's not about being

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a super duper liberal church where you
know, anything goes and there's no theology

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structure. Not about that. It's
about the peace and love that comes from

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scripture, that is real and that
is honest, and that is receiving of

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people from from all kinds of walks, in all kinds of situations. And

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it's always disappointing when I get emails
of how somebody was treated in the church

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for any reason, and that sheds
poor light upon the love of God and

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the purpose of the death and the
Cross and the resurrection and what all that

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speaks. Leonard, Welcome to the
Jesus Christ Show. Now let me get

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out of the wind here. Sorry
about that, No problem. Another question.

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And I make eighty percent of monu
income from playing poker, my goodness.

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Uh huh and uh. I came
in contact with a lot of good

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maning Christian people and they say it's
evil and going to hell, and oh

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wow. I'll usually bring up you
know, it's I mean, you'll play

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monopoly because that's the game of chance
too, and they kind of well,

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that's different, you know, I
mean, you want to you want to

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hear a mind blowing fact, the
apostles cast lots to determine the replacement for

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Judas in scripture. So there's there's
the lottery is used in uh. They

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cast lots in levit a kiss to
choose between a sacrificial goat and escapegoat.

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Joshua cast lots to determine, uh, you know, the size of land

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for various tribes. It does show
its face in scripture, and there's nothing

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that says, uh, implicitly in
scripture that it's wrong. Now, I

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will tell you, Leonard that there
are some things that would make it wrong.

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Now you said you're a poker player, right, I mean if I

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if I see somebody that's you know, I mean obviously having problems, I

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try to go to a different table, you know. I'm trying not to

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take advantage, you know. But
poker is a skill. It's not as

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much a game of chance as if
you were sitting there playing the slots machine.

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Slot machine. Okay, So there's
a couple of differences. Poker is

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going to be one of the few
times where where you could see that as

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a job. It's a game of
skill. It takes practice and insight and

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ability. So in that case it
would be very, very different from other

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types of gambling. If you're just
trying to make a buck, If you're

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actually making a living, edit that
shows that you're pretty good. If you're

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doing it in an honest way,
then that's fine as well. That the

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concern comes in places like Proverbs thirteen
eleven that says dishonest money dwindles away,

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but he gathers money little by little
makes it grow. Getting in that kind

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of get rich quick mentality is absolutely
wrong. But if you are are going

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and you're you're an honest poker player, that's not to say that, you

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know, the part of the playing
is is bluffing and the like, but

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that's understood by all the other players. So yeah, it's not considered lying

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or fabricating it in a different sense
because everybody goes into it knowing that's part

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of the game. So but if
you're honest in what you do, you're

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not cheating, and you're not doing
it just to stay out of work,

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you're doing it because this is your
job, then you're fine. It's only

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when it becomes something that controls your
life or an addiction, or you're doing

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it to just try and skirt the
system to you know, make a you

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know, quick buck or things like
that. That's when gambling would become a

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problem, and that's when I would
say that you need to run from it.

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Robert, Welcome to the Jesus Christ
Show. Hello, how are you?

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I am? Well? How can
I help you? Robert? I

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had a question how does a married
couple get past adultery? And is there

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any scripture that can actually help us
in moving forward in our lives? Well,

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of course there's a scripture, but
first I'd like to get a little

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bit more understanding. Are you're going
through this yourself right now? Yes,

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sir? And what happened? I
committed adultery myself and it would eat me

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alive and I ended up telling my
wife about it, and now we're in

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a situation that we're trying to get
over. Okay, Aaron, was it

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a long period of time? Was
it a one time thing? Was it

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was? It was more so a
one time thing. More so so you're

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saying it happened more than once.
It happened once. Okay, Yeah,

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that would be exactly a one time
thing. So it happened, Okay,

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So it happened one time, and
you you brought it up to your wife

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and you told her about your discretion, your indiscretion rather, and she she's

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responding and being hurt, right,
very hurt, very hurt over, very

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non trusting. Said, I mean
she cries all the time. You know,

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it's it's rough. Is was this
someone she knew as well? No,

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okay, with somebody at work?
Or was it was somebody it was

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something like that? Yeah? Okay? Uh you weren't. Did you feel

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that you put yourself in in this
situation knowingly and you just kind of went

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with you went with a rolled with
it all and just said, Okay,

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I'm going to give in. Yeah
I did. I did. I gave

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into the temptation that that surrounds us
every day. Well, there's forgiveness all

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throughout scripture, it's a running theme
obviously, But the there's two things that

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go with forgiveness. There's open forgiveness, and that's that's for your wife that

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she's to forgive, to release it
so that she doesn't have it. But

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that's not necessarily for you. Reconciliation
is something different. Reconciliation comes with work

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and intent and focus and all these
things. Like God loves and forgives everyone,

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but only reconciles truly with those that
receive him and repent turn away so

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one. You can't do it anymore. You can't do anything obviously that even

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remotely appears to look like that.
And you have to find out why this

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was so important to you, to
find out what about it was worth the

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possible loss of your wife and your
family, and why that one time,

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you know what part of you yearns
for that kind of attention that would make

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you do something counter to who you
are. I mean, yeah, you're

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not a bad guy, are you? All you and you don't want this

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in your life, yet you welcomed
it. You brought it in your life,

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right, and you see what damage
it it? Yeah? I mean

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you couldn't even live with it.
Yeah, you told on yourself. It's

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not like you even got caught,
right exactly. The worst thing you can

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do is try and make things go
back to normal quickly. It makes it

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will appear to your wife that you're
just trying to cover it up and that

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it doesn't matter and that you don't
care about our feelings. You need to

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get to a third party. You
need to have somebody, a pastor somebody

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that you guys can talk in front
of and work through this and and get

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through it to a place where you
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going to take a lot of work, and there's going to be a lot

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of cants. There's a lot of
things that you can't do anymore, and

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you shut that door off. There's
going to be things that you think are

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normal or casual to go out and
see friends or do whatever that you want,

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an't going to get to do anymore. And you you better realize that

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and know that that's part of what
you sacrificed. You sacrifice something on your

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wife's end, her trust and her
love and all that she gave you,

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and now you're sacrificing much of your
freedom to reinstill faith in your family and

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in who in the character of who
you are. There's there's much of scripture

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or just up against a clock.
When I come back, I'll give you

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some scripture that you can read.
But there's much a scripture that talks about

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forgiveness. I was talking with Robert
about his infidelity, and you could hear

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how obviously he's not happy with himself
and his situation. People will make mistakes,

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and there are there's a great distance, a vast differences between those who

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are repeat offenders who it's a lifestyle. They go out and they commit adultery

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over and over again, versus somebody
who puts themselves in a very stupid situation

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and makes a mistake. So I
want to give you a few things.

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He asked for scripture about forgiveness and
things like that, and I want to

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give that. But I also want
to give you a guideline. If you

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want to protect yourself, well,
the best way to protect yourself is to

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build boundaries between that which you want
to protect in the outside world. Right,

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if you want to protect that part
of your life, then both men

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and you two women have to understand
that there are boundaries that you have to

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push beyond, even outside of the
normal boundaries, to keep you from falling

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into that circumstance. The old saying
that you get too close to the creek,

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you slip in. It's just the
way creeks are built. The slides,

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the sides are slippery, and you
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whole thing and you're in the drink. Likewise, when it comes to your

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emotions and your sexuality and your intimacy
levels, you have to keep yourself from

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being intimate and that has nothing to
do with clothes being off. You can't

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connect with people. This today's program
has been about communing and connecting with people,

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and you can't do that with someone
of the opposite sex in the same

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way at the same time. You
can't you don't do that anymore. Doesn't

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mean that you aren't human, and
it doesn't mean that you don't connect on

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other levels, but you can't have
those moments of intimacies. You don't share

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secrets with the opposite sex that you
you know, keep from your spouse,

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things like that, because then you
build a bond with somebody else that can

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grow into that intimacy that can become
a problem. And as the old saying

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goes, if you're not if you're
not supposed to go into Idaho, don't

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go into the United States, and
then you're guaranteed never to step foot in

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Idaho. The point being that if
is set your boundaries so wide that you're

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not going to worry about the possibility
of slipping in, and that's just don't

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put yourself in those positions. As
far as scriptures go, Robert, I

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want you to know that first John
one nine is very clear. If we

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confess our sins. He is faithful
and just and will forgive us our sins

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and purify us from all unrighteousness.
It's a process, and it's where the

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process you're in right now, and
one that you need to allow to happen

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to you and your wife will be
doing the same healing from that. And

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finally, Matthew twenty one through twenty
three is what I want you to read

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about forgiving, forgiving yourself as well. Ernest, Welcome to the Jesus Christ

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Show. Good morning, Hello,
How can I help you? Yes,

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Jesus, I want to know why
we keep Sunday as the Sabbath. I've

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been reading the Bible as of late
and little articles in different magazines, and

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I can't find any work where it
says to change the Sabbath to Sunday,

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Sunday being the first day of the
week. Yes, absolutely that Okay,

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Sunday is not the Sabbath. Christians
do not celebrate on the Sabbath. Christians

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tend to celebrate on what they refer
to as the Lord's Day, which is

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to represent the erection which took place
on Sunday. Now you find this in

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the Book of Acts as well.
Acts twenty verse seven talks about them gathering

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around to break read on the first
day of the week, and this shows

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that the celebration takes place on a
different day. And there's other colautions to

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verse sixteen and seventeen. But the
Lord's Day, the term Lord's Day only

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appears once in the New Testament,
that's Revelation one, verse ten. But

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don't confuse the concept or the Lord's
Day with what is the Sabbath, which

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is the seventh day of the week. That's Saturday. It's the day of

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rest, and that doesn't change Sunday
being the first day of the week,

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is the day that I rose from
the dead, and that's the day that

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is celebrated by most Christians. So
New Testament Christians did not believe Saturday should

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be observed by worship and rest necessarily
Romans fourteen five and six, Galatians four,

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verse eight through eleven. But they
had a lot of modern Christians,

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and the early Christians regarded the Sabbath
as part of the ceremonial law of Israel

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and not necessarily applicable to the Church
as it stands today. So keep in

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mind there there's not just ten commandments, there's over four hundred commandments in scripture,

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So this is one of those that
many Christians think that it's not about

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the day. If you remember,
I was asked about the Sabbath, and

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I said the Sabbath was made for
man, not man. For the Sabbath

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to show people that they had it
kind of backwards. It was about taking

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the time to rest, taking the
time to spend with God, focusing on

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God and the things of God.
And that should be done regardless. I

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don't care what day that's done on. But it's imperative that you rest.

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It's imperative. Scripture says, be
still and know that I'm God. It's

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imperative that you have that downtime to
sit before God and to relax and receive.

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Those are the things that are important. It's imperative that in a work,

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in a physical work sense, that
you have time of rest as well,

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that you stop from your labor,
that you literally put your tools down

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and take that time to relax.
Otherwise you're going to burn yourself out and

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you're not going to be of any
value to anyone, including God. Because

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when you get really, really super
tired, you're susceptible to a lot of

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things. Physically, spiritually, emotionally, and you receive differently, and so

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it's important to take that time to
have that rest. But what happens is

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if you make it about the Sabbath, then that becomes about the Law again,

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and then the law supersedes God.
And it's not about that. The

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Law was to train you about the
things of God, to understand the purpose

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of structure and consistency and the things
of God, not about trying to be

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perfect or obtaining Godhood in any way, shape or form. So in this

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particular case, when it comes to
the Sabbath, the modern day Christians and

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even New Testament Christians felt that it
wasn't about the Sabbath anymore. It was

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about the purpose of the Sabbath,
that is to take time to rest and

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to worship God and also to celebrate
God. And that's done with most Christians.

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