WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.480 --> 00:00:06.960 And we continue on Fred Rugan, Rodney Pete. La Sports got word a 2 00:00:06.960 --> 00:00:12.400 few minutes ago the Raiders have a new general manager, Tom Telesco. Is 3 00:00:12.439 --> 00:00:16.440 that right? Tom to LESCo, tell me t look at him. You 4 00:00:16.519 --> 00:00:20.679 knew he wasn't gonna be out there very long. He wasn't, no no. 5 00:00:21.559 --> 00:00:27.559 So if anybody, yeah, anybody blaming him for the Chargers woes is 6 00:00:28.079 --> 00:00:32.000 doesn't know football, doesn't know what they're talking about. Because he brought some 7 00:00:32.200 --> 00:00:37.119 great individual players and unfortunately some of them got hurt during their tenure here. 8 00:00:37.159 --> 00:00:42.439 But the roster year and in year out, the roster that we kept talking 9 00:00:42.479 --> 00:00:48.039 about, and not just us, but around the country talked about how good 10 00:00:48.840 --> 00:00:53.719 the Chargers roster was the last four or five years, and that was Tom 11 00:00:53.759 --> 00:00:59.399 Telesco. So good for him. Congratulations, Dan Whykey covered the Chargers before 12 00:00:59.399 --> 00:01:02.600 covering the Lake's with us. Now we'll get to the Lakers in a second. 13 00:01:03.039 --> 00:01:07.879 But Dan, what do you think of Tom Telesco? Always very professional, 14 00:01:07.040 --> 00:01:11.879 very smart, like a thoughtful, measured kind of general manager, not 15 00:01:11.920 --> 00:01:15.879 super reactive. And I mean that as a compliment, right, Like you 16 00:01:15.920 --> 00:01:21.480 don't want management to freak out right, and he I think was very measured 17 00:01:21.560 --> 00:01:26.280 obviously struggled at hiring the right coach. You know, they never really found 18 00:01:26.319 --> 00:01:30.280 the right guy, uh, but from a talent accumulation, I mean like 19 00:01:30.319 --> 00:01:33.239 they it was never like when you looked at the Chargers, you never were 20 00:01:33.280 --> 00:01:36.400 like, oh, they don't have a chance this year because of their talent, 21 00:01:36.439 --> 00:01:38.079 you know, like they were always sort of in the mix. And 22 00:01:38.120 --> 00:01:42.560 I think that's all you can ask from a football coach. And then whether 23 00:01:42.599 --> 00:01:45.680 it's a combination of you know, poor coaching hires, but bad luck, 24 00:01:46.239 --> 00:01:49.359 some of these things certainly always play a part in it. And I think 25 00:01:49.879 --> 00:01:53.840 I am not surprised to see him get a job so quickly, because you 26 00:01:53.879 --> 00:01:59.000 know, I think in addition to being like seemingly a very good person in 27 00:01:59.040 --> 00:02:02.200 my time around Tom to let go, you know, he's very competent. 28 00:02:05.040 --> 00:02:07.760 We'll have Bennie on later in the week. Ben he's up in Vegas, 29 00:02:07.840 --> 00:02:09.639 of course, and we'll talk more about it before we get to the Lakers. 30 00:02:09.759 --> 00:02:13.159 Dan, I don't want to talk about what happened today at the La 31 00:02:13.280 --> 00:02:17.280 Times. Some very good people, very very good people got an email and 32 00:02:17.280 --> 00:02:23.000 said, you're done, what's happening there? I mean, we just had 33 00:02:23.000 --> 00:02:25.319 a big round of layouts. I mean it's really scary, you know, 34 00:02:25.439 --> 00:02:30.199 I think there are some incredibly talented people today that aren't with the paper. 35 00:02:30.439 --> 00:02:37.159 And the challenge moving forwards is delivering a product, you know, to a 36 00:02:37.360 --> 00:02:42.719 changing readership and letting people know that, you know, like it's worth you 37 00:02:42.759 --> 00:02:46.960 know, it's it's worth the money. You know, it's a dollar for 38 00:02:46.039 --> 00:02:50.360 six months. And I think you know, Fred Running, I mean it's 39 00:02:50.400 --> 00:02:53.199 interesting. I mean we're all the three of us are all of an agent, 40 00:02:53.240 --> 00:02:54.759 which like you know, I know, for me, like I woke 41 00:02:54.800 --> 00:02:58.159 up in the morning, I read the newspaper like it was the kitchen. 42 00:02:58.159 --> 00:03:00.520 It was a kitchen table thing, Like I get that, and that's not 43 00:03:00.599 --> 00:03:04.719 the case anymore. Like I understand that that's not the way people conduct their 44 00:03:04.759 --> 00:03:08.319 business. I checked my phone usually right now. Still, I do think 45 00:03:08.360 --> 00:03:12.560 that it is important to know that, like you know, like those headlines 46 00:03:12.560 --> 00:03:16.360 all come from somewhere, like like there is a level of reporting that goes 47 00:03:16.400 --> 00:03:20.680 into all of this stuff. And you know, I would encourage people it's 48 00:03:20.719 --> 00:03:23.879 a dollar for six months, they give us a try, you know that 49 00:03:23.919 --> 00:03:27.039 it's it's really important for cities, I mean, not just in sports. 50 00:03:27.080 --> 00:03:29.680 I mean certainly not just in sports, but like you know, when you 51 00:03:29.719 --> 00:03:32.039 talk about holding people accountable in public office and stuff like that, I mean 52 00:03:32.080 --> 00:03:37.080 that the role of journalism is incredibly important. And just a rough day, 53 00:03:37.120 --> 00:03:40.400 guys, i lost some really really good colleagues, and I'm hopeful that all 54 00:03:40.439 --> 00:03:43.639 of them will land on their feet, because I know they're all talented. 55 00:03:44.280 --> 00:03:49.039 Wow, when you said it just struck me when you said this, it's 56 00:03:49.080 --> 00:03:53.479 only a dollar for six months, give us a try. Can you even 57 00:03:53.560 --> 00:03:59.520 believe you are asking people please try? The la times? I mean, 58 00:03:59.680 --> 00:04:04.159 I mean yeah, I mean I think people that the people, yeah, 59 00:04:04.199 --> 00:04:06.520 the people we want to read the paper, you know what I mean? 60 00:04:06.599 --> 00:04:09.919 Like, are in additional people who are used to holding in their hands. 61 00:04:09.960 --> 00:04:12.800 I can obviously we want to deliver a good product for them. But at 62 00:04:12.840 --> 00:04:15.919 the same time you want to deliver, you want to introduce the product to 63 00:04:15.919 --> 00:04:18.399 people who maybe have never subscribed to a newspaper, you know what I mean. 64 00:04:18.519 --> 00:04:23.600 And I think that is I would encourage people to do that as a 65 00:04:23.600 --> 00:04:26.360 great way to get like sort of civically engaged. You learn a lot about 66 00:04:26.360 --> 00:04:29.839 what's happening in your city. In addition or news coverage, I mean, 67 00:04:29.839 --> 00:04:32.399 our food coverage is top notch. I'd like to think, you know, 68 00:04:32.720 --> 00:04:36.839 I mean, I bust my hump on the Lakers, like I know how 69 00:04:36.879 --> 00:04:40.920 hard I'm working, you know what I mean, And I think we offer 70 00:04:40.920 --> 00:04:43.759 a lot of different stuff. But yeah, it's it's a tough time. 71 00:04:43.800 --> 00:04:46.120 I mean, it's a really hard business. We saw what happened at Sports 72 00:04:46.120 --> 00:04:48.800 Illustrated, you know, we've seen what's happening you know. I believe Today 73 00:04:48.879 --> 00:04:56.519 Time Magazine as well. These are like institutional publications. I'm hopeful there will 74 00:04:56.560 --> 00:05:00.360 be some sort of swing back. But like like you know, in terms 75 00:05:00.360 --> 00:05:02.399 of the cycle, like right now, this this is a tough day because 76 00:05:02.399 --> 00:05:06.800 of the labor this day, because I know it's a tough day for you 77 00:05:06.879 --> 00:05:13.480 and a lot of your colleagues, but because the times have changed, because 78 00:05:13.480 --> 00:05:18.160 we have generations now that don't grow up with like you mentioned the breakfast table, 79 00:05:18.240 --> 00:05:26.360 reading, the reading the newspaper. How can can can things get back 80 00:05:26.399 --> 00:05:31.240 to to a way that yeah that is I think so it was no, 81 00:05:31.279 --> 00:05:33.439 maybe not the way it was running, but I mean I think like the 82 00:05:33.439 --> 00:05:35.879 way that I always remind myself when I think about this stuff, and this 83 00:05:35.959 --> 00:05:40.759 is like a big picture, like journalism conversation, but I think it applies 84 00:05:40.800 --> 00:05:44.720 to a lot of things. Is like, so when I went to college 85 00:05:44.759 --> 00:05:49.560 in nineteen ninety nine, Okay, and that's an important year because I went 86 00:05:49.600 --> 00:05:53.959 to college with my first ever laptop, the first time in my life I 87 00:05:54.120 --> 00:05:57.759 ever had high speed internet, and the first time I ever had access to 88 00:05:57.839 --> 00:06:03.399 Napster. Right, I downloaded everything, Okay, Like every piece of music 89 00:06:03.399 --> 00:06:06.079 I get my hands on, I downloaded. Didn't think it was stealing. 90 00:06:06.720 --> 00:06:12.480 Thought I was just building a CD collection of like like a library level of 91 00:06:12.519 --> 00:06:14.560 CD you know. I mean, like there was a guy my for member 92 00:06:14.560 --> 00:06:18.240 who would buy like a thousand blank CDs and like a week later would have 93 00:06:18.360 --> 00:06:21.399 them filled with every album that ever existed, whether he's gonna listen to it 94 00:06:21.439 --> 00:06:27.560 or not. Right, Like, it took me a little time to like 95 00:06:27.920 --> 00:06:31.839 get used to iTunes, you know when Snapster went away, Like it took 96 00:06:31.920 --> 00:06:36.439 me I had to recalibrate sort of my consumer habits to get used to paying 97 00:06:36.439 --> 00:06:42.040 for music again. And you know, now I subscribe to a streaming service 98 00:06:42.079 --> 00:06:44.600 and I pay for music that way, and I do pay for music. 99 00:06:45.560 --> 00:06:47.199 Is it exactly the same? It is not exactly the same. And I 100 00:06:47.240 --> 00:06:50.959 know artists would tell you it's I'm not. I'm not at Tower Records the 101 00:06:50.959 --> 00:06:55.439 way I used to be when I was sixteen or Best Buy or whatever or 102 00:06:55.480 --> 00:06:59.800 even twenty one. But like you know, I'm still consuming the product that's 103 00:07:00.040 --> 00:07:01.920 an important part of my life. And and that's my hope for journalism and 104 00:07:02.439 --> 00:07:08.319 for news sites and newspapers is that we figure out whatever our iTunes or slash 105 00:07:08.959 --> 00:07:14.720 Spotify type version of delivering what I think is really really important to people, 106 00:07:14.959 --> 00:07:18.680 whether they realize it or not, you know, moving forwards, that's my 107 00:07:18.759 --> 00:07:23.040 hope. All right, let's get to the Lakers and Clippers. Lebron not 108 00:07:23.160 --> 00:07:26.120 playing today, kind of a bummer in a game like that, that is, 109 00:07:26.519 --> 00:07:29.680 yeah, it's it's you know, I mean, look, we'll we'll, 110 00:07:29.680 --> 00:07:33.199 we'll see how serious it is. He deals with nagging type injuries all 111 00:07:33.240 --> 00:07:40.720 the time. Did not look injured, particularly against Portland. But you know, 112 00:07:40.800 --> 00:07:43.199 we'll see. I mean, they do have a very important stretch coming 113 00:07:43.279 --> 00:07:46.040 up in addition to this being a very important game. But you know, 114 00:07:46.120 --> 00:07:50.399 they play Chicago on Thursday before starting the Grammy trip. You know, maybe 115 00:07:50.399 --> 00:07:55.600 this is just a get right day. I don't know, and you hate 116 00:07:55.600 --> 00:08:00.279 to see it come against the Clippers, certainly, right, especially considering the 117 00:08:00.360 --> 00:08:01.720 Lakers have won the last two against them, and you want to see all 118 00:08:01.720 --> 00:08:05.720 these stars on the court together. It's it's a really fun thing. But 119 00:08:05.800 --> 00:08:09.720 yeah, no, it's disappointing. It is. I hope you get more 120 00:08:09.759 --> 00:08:13.959 information later today. We'll talk to Garbyham pre game. I will say that 121 00:08:13.040 --> 00:08:16.040 without Lebron James, the Lakers have experienced playing and winning big games. They 122 00:08:16.040 --> 00:08:20.879 did a lot last year, you know, and they do it with ball 123 00:08:20.920 --> 00:08:24.240 movement, they do it with team basketball and things like that. They're going 124 00:08:24.319 --> 00:08:28.560 to have to find that against. To me, what I think is the 125 00:08:28.600 --> 00:08:33.360 scariest team in the Western Conference if I was them in Denver, if I 126 00:08:33.399 --> 00:08:37.159 was like an opposing executive trying to build a championship team, these would be 127 00:08:37.200 --> 00:08:41.720 the two teams that would freight me most. Yeah, yeah, clips no 128 00:08:41.759 --> 00:08:46.080 doubt. And it feels, I don't know, it just feels at some 129 00:08:46.360 --> 00:08:50.639 point, at some point, the the Clippers are going to get over that 130 00:08:50.759 --> 00:08:54.639 mountain and they're going to get there. Yeah, you know, I don't 131 00:08:54.639 --> 00:09:01.240 know. The Lions are in the NFC Championship game. The stuff hap wrecked, 132 00:09:01.399 --> 00:09:03.799 like the stuff, you know what I mean, like I am a 133 00:09:03.879 --> 00:09:07.320 Chicago White Tax fan two thousand and five, it occurred. No matter what 134 00:09:07.360 --> 00:09:11.519 anybody will tell you, it did happen. They won the World Series, 135 00:09:11.600 --> 00:09:13.799 like you know, like hell freezes over. And I'm not saying that's what's 136 00:09:13.799 --> 00:09:16.240 going to take for the Clippers making I mean, I think, you know, 137 00:09:16.320 --> 00:09:20.360 you look at and I had this conversation with someone on the eve of 138 00:09:20.879 --> 00:09:22.759 or the daily intoit Dome kind of, they did their big press conference aroound 139 00:09:22.759 --> 00:09:26.159 the Austter game, and for me, like, really what that was and 140 00:09:26.200 --> 00:09:30.279 a lot of things right, It was a culmination of a decade plus of 141 00:09:30.320 --> 00:09:35.080 competitive basketball, you know, a team that had been put a team that 142 00:09:35.320 --> 00:09:41.720 had been put together and won and kept winning and kept interest in them through 143 00:09:41.840 --> 00:09:46.320 different iterations of the team that became a free agency destination for some of the 144 00:09:46.320 --> 00:09:48.720 top stars in the league. And like it was such an organizational victory as 145 00:09:48.720 --> 00:09:52.559 a victory for obviously what I think is the single biggest advantage in pro sports, 146 00:09:52.559 --> 00:09:58.039 which is ownership. You know, it is the biggest competitive advantage you 147 00:09:58.039 --> 00:10:01.679 can have is to have a good owner, and the Clippers haven't. I 148 00:10:01.799 --> 00:10:05.000 have a good owner who cares about the product, who cares about his fans 149 00:10:05.000 --> 00:10:09.240 and once you know, and and went out of pocket to build the stadium 150 00:10:09.519 --> 00:10:11.039 that's going to be their own, And it just felt like a really like 151 00:10:13.000 --> 00:10:16.039 a culmination of that stuff. So like no, like I think, like 152 00:10:16.200 --> 00:10:20.600 you know, the hump that is there is sort of like it's at this 153 00:10:20.679 --> 00:10:24.120 point, it's not Clipper curse at this point. It's like it's just really 154 00:10:24.159 --> 00:10:26.080 really hard to win, guys. A lot has to go right. The 155 00:10:26.159 --> 00:10:31.120 league is really good. I mean, look at the individual performances in the 156 00:10:31.200 --> 00:10:33.759 league last night, you know, with Joel mb Cronin Thomps, Kevin Durant 157 00:10:33.799 --> 00:10:37.919 did I mean, like, you know, the offensive numbers. It is 158 00:10:39.000 --> 00:10:41.600 so hard to guard teams. It is so hard to slow them down with 159 00:10:41.639 --> 00:10:43.879 the amount of threes that are being taken, with the way teams are able 160 00:10:43.919 --> 00:10:46.840 to get to the line. The Clippers have the ability to do all of 161 00:10:46.879 --> 00:10:50.879 that. They can guard, they can shoot, they can score. I 162 00:10:50.919 --> 00:10:54.679 mean, they It really does feel like it's set up for them if they're 163 00:10:54.679 --> 00:10:58.159 able to be healthy and continue to play the way they've been playing. Hey, 164 00:10:58.240 --> 00:11:01.360 Dan, you were up there. We played the audio a couple of 165 00:11:01.360 --> 00:11:07.200 minutes ago, Austin Reeves talking about D'angela Russell Romore the other night. What 166 00:11:07.240 --> 00:11:11.799 do you know about that? I mean, I think it's just a lot 167 00:11:11.799 --> 00:11:16.480 of baseless speculation that comes around with trade season and like sort of like internet 168 00:11:16.519 --> 00:11:18.879 detective work, you know, you know what I mean that I think, 169 00:11:20.559 --> 00:11:24.639 you know, I heard d' angelo Russell basically have the same answer. There 170 00:11:24.679 --> 00:11:30.000 was a clip circulating at him talking to Mike Trudell and talking about, you 171 00:11:30.039 --> 00:11:33.399 know, growing up as a kid and what he dreamed of and how people 172 00:11:33.399 --> 00:11:37.240 thought it seemed like a goodbye and like, uh, he gave the same 173 00:11:37.279 --> 00:11:39.320 answer when I asked him what was going through his mind on those plays with 174 00:11:39.399 --> 00:11:43.080 Lebron. That was the direct question I asked him, and he said that 175 00:11:43.159 --> 00:11:48.039 he is not. I mean that is sort of what he always sort of 176 00:11:48.480 --> 00:11:52.559 like he's not the most emotive person of all time, you know, And 177 00:11:52.600 --> 00:11:56.919 as far as Hotchamura goes, I mean, I didn't notice anything. He's 178 00:11:56.919 --> 00:12:00.720 gonna have a big role tonight. I thought he played pretty well against Portland. 179 00:12:01.360 --> 00:12:05.879 And like these guys are in trade talks, it'd be impossible to have 180 00:12:05.039 --> 00:12:13.519 any real sort of like sort of wing for like substantial trade talks about including 181 00:12:13.960 --> 00:12:16.639 one if not both just based on their contracts, like they're gonna be in 182 00:12:16.679 --> 00:12:22.159 it, and I think they understand that they're pros. Uh. You know, 183 00:12:22.360 --> 00:12:24.840 d Angel has been through it a ton, you know. I know 184 00:12:24.879 --> 00:12:26.440 for Rui, it's a little bit harder, like he's really found, you 185 00:12:26.480 --> 00:12:31.120 know, a place that he really enjoys, loves Los Angeles, tons of 186 00:12:31.200 --> 00:12:35.559 Japanese culture here, it's fun, seem really likes and they all really like 187 00:12:35.639 --> 00:12:39.320 him. I think it's just kind of you know, that's what when you 188 00:12:39.320 --> 00:12:45.440 have expectations and you're five hundred, like these are the times, you know, 189 00:12:45.600 --> 00:12:50.440 like this is when it gets uncomfortable and it's on the players to sort 190 00:12:50.440 --> 00:12:54.080 of prove that you know, this team it's weird, like either one deserves 191 00:12:54.120 --> 00:12:58.799 to stay together or deserves a shot to be upgraded through trade, even for 192 00:13:00.039 --> 00:13:03.200 a short term, you know, because you know there are options, guys, 193 00:13:03.240 --> 00:13:07.440 there are options that include them not doing anything of stance right right, 194 00:13:07.559 --> 00:13:11.559 But that's my point. Can you stop for a second ready, I said 195 00:13:11.879 --> 00:13:16.519 substance instead of substance, by the way, and I just want to call 196 00:13:16.080 --> 00:13:20.919 I'm not fancy. I'm not like somebody who eats like mister pitt a stickers 197 00:13:20.960 --> 00:13:24.000 bar with my fork and knife. But I do like to say now from 198 00:13:24.000 --> 00:13:28.879 now, I'm I'm a man of substance, like that rolls off, rolls 199 00:13:28.879 --> 00:13:33.960 off the tongue. Well yeah, but so that's my point. I mean, 200 00:13:33.000 --> 00:13:37.679 I could certainly see them not doing anything, because it doesn't feel that 201 00:13:37.799 --> 00:13:43.080 I could be completely wrong that a deal out there, at least the ones 202 00:13:43.120 --> 00:13:48.399 that we're hearing about, is really gonna substantially move the needle for the Lakers 203 00:13:48.440 --> 00:13:52.759 to just all of a sudden, you know, turn into a different team. 204 00:13:54.080 --> 00:13:56.360 It would have to have some sort of long term equity, right, 205 00:13:56.440 --> 00:14:00.159 Like so like John Ty Murray has multiple years up on his contract, his 206 00:14:00.320 --> 00:14:05.799 age as such where he sort of fits, you know, where he sort 207 00:14:05.799 --> 00:14:09.639 of fits like the timeline for Anthony Davis and Austin Reeves. He's kind of 208 00:14:09.639 --> 00:14:13.759 a natural Austin Reeves backcourt type partner. He's been a pretty good defensive player 209 00:14:13.759 --> 00:14:16.039 in the past, although people will tell you when they watch him now he's 210 00:14:16.080 --> 00:14:20.679 not quite defending at the same level. But hard to know. That's one 211 00:14:20.720 --> 00:14:24.960 of those things that tends to change when the stakes are elevated a little bit, 212 00:14:26.240 --> 00:14:28.000 you know, like, but that may cost you all. I mean 213 00:14:28.039 --> 00:14:31.639 that will cost you a lot. I mean, we saw Terrose here today 214 00:14:31.080 --> 00:14:35.360 get treated for a first round pick. It will cost more than that to 215 00:14:35.399 --> 00:14:39.000 get to Jehan taimurriy. You know, I think Bruce Brown is probably the 216 00:14:39.039 --> 00:14:43.279 other name that I hear the most right now, and that's a guy who 217 00:14:43.320 --> 00:14:46.039 has you know, multiple as you know this year, next year on a 218 00:14:46.039 --> 00:14:50.200 contract. He'd be a big expiring contract next year. But like he is 219 00:14:50.240 --> 00:14:52.559 a useful player on every contender, right, Like there's long term utility for 220 00:14:52.600 --> 00:14:56.600 the player of that style. So I think like those types of things like 221 00:14:56.639 --> 00:15:01.240 if it doesn't help you today, it'll help you tomorrow. Where it gets 222 00:15:01.440 --> 00:15:03.279 weirder is like if you're trading for someone to say like and like does not 223 00:15:03.320 --> 00:15:07.399 even talk about the off court stuff, but like someone like Miles Bridges right 224 00:15:07.440 --> 00:15:09.559 who, like you would the only way you could resign him is with your 225 00:15:09.600 --> 00:15:13.200 mid level exception. If he gets more than that, like you're cooked, 226 00:15:13.200 --> 00:15:16.039 you don't have a shot. You know. That feels more like a rental. 227 00:15:16.120 --> 00:15:20.279 Are you in the position to trade for a rental for you know, 228 00:15:20.360 --> 00:15:22.679 three months? Like I don't think that. I don't think they would put 229 00:15:22.039 --> 00:15:26.720 significant assets behind that, as they kind of you know, clown around down 230 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:33.320 near tenth. Hey, Dan, before we let you go. Milwaukee fired 231 00:15:33.360 --> 00:15:37.240 its coach today, Doc rivers Uh reportedly near the top of the list. 232 00:15:39.000 --> 00:15:43.639 What do you think happens there? I mean, I'm not it's one of 233 00:15:43.639 --> 00:15:46.639 those like I think I was surprised but not shocked, or maybe I was 234 00:15:46.639 --> 00:15:50.480 shocked but not surprised. You know, when I was doing some reporting on 235 00:15:50.559 --> 00:15:54.919 Darvin Ham earlier this year and and talking to some people literally this you know, 236 00:15:54.000 --> 00:15:58.480 this calendar year, talking to people about Darwin's shot up status and different 237 00:15:58.480 --> 00:16:00.879 things like that, talking to coaching agents and people, you know, Adrian 238 00:16:00.879 --> 00:16:04.000 Griffin's name, kim abal lot as like a you know, a place where 239 00:16:04.080 --> 00:16:07.679 maybe it's not going quite as well as people think, you know, or 240 00:16:07.720 --> 00:16:12.159 that the record would suggest. You know, that's a really hard position, 241 00:16:12.240 --> 00:16:15.960 you know, like first time head coaches. I think, you know, 242 00:16:17.039 --> 00:16:19.440 it's it's tough that the list of guys who failed is certainly longer than the 243 00:16:19.480 --> 00:16:23.440 list of guys who've succeeded, especially with a team like the Bucks, right, 244 00:16:23.519 --> 00:16:27.360 a team that is like there is no patience there. They should like 245 00:16:27.399 --> 00:16:36.519 there's not a second to waste. Despite the three games I was gonna say 246 00:16:36.519 --> 00:16:40.919 and with twenty more wins and losses. But look, you never I don't 247 00:16:41.039 --> 00:16:42.399 I don't want to say. I don't know. I'm not there every day. 248 00:16:42.480 --> 00:16:47.159 I don't know. I don't applaud the decision necessarily, I think though, 249 00:16:47.159 --> 00:16:48.759 it takes a certain level of decisiveness to be like, we're putting our 250 00:16:48.759 --> 00:16:52.360 foot in the ground, this wasn't right. We're gonna instead of waiting to 251 00:16:52.919 --> 00:16:56.639 fix it, if you know what is wrong, ripping the band aid off 252 00:16:56.639 --> 00:16:59.679 and addressing it. And by the way, like he'll get a hello of 253 00:16:59.679 --> 00:17:03.000 this stuff. And Adrian Griffin, I mean, like like you say, 254 00:17:03.039 --> 00:17:04.279 for like you you know, in one way, you only coach have a 255 00:17:04.279 --> 00:17:08.319 season. That means he's got three and a half years of a contract waiting 256 00:17:08.359 --> 00:17:11.799 for him. In the back end, he's about to be an excellent golfer 257 00:17:12.279 --> 00:17:15.440 or something like that. But yeah, it is, you know that part 258 00:17:15.480 --> 00:17:19.240 of it is, you know, rarely do you see a team make such 259 00:17:19.240 --> 00:17:23.200 a decisive decision that that singing reminds me of most in this coach had a 260 00:17:23.240 --> 00:17:27.480 year and a half. Was David Blatt in Cleveland? Yeah, yeah, 261 00:17:27.920 --> 00:17:33.680 that was Lebron and that was TYLERU. Yeah right, Dan, thanks for 262 00:17:33.680 --> 00:17:37.799 coming on. We appreciate it. Thank you, guys. I appreciate you. 263 00:17:37.960 --> 00:17:41.400 Man. Thanks for letting me pitch the La timesiple again a buck for 264 00:17:41.480 --> 00:17:44.599 six months. I think I think you'll find it's worth it. Yeah, 265 00:17:44.680 --> 00:17:47.960 actually it is worth it. I read it every day online. All Right, 266 00:17:48.039 --> 00:17:51.680 Dan, thank you, Thanks Van. All right, goes our buddy 267 00:17:51.759 --> 00:17:56.640 Dan Wyki. This. Now think about this for a second. When is 268 00:17:56.680 --> 00:18:02.519 it appropriate to tip? And how much should you tip? I mean back 269 00:18:02.519 --> 00:18:04.880 in the day, Rodney, and correct me if I'm wrong. Uh, 270 00:18:04.920 --> 00:18:07.599 you go out to a restaurant, you'd have a good server and you take 271 00:18:07.599 --> 00:18:11.599 care of them, and you tip twenty percent minimum? Fair to say? 272 00:18:11.680 --> 00:18:14.559 Or no, what's back in the day, because back in the day it 273 00:18:14.599 --> 00:18:19.160 was fifteen percent. Was was typical. It was last ten years twenty percent. 274 00:18:19.240 --> 00:18:25.000 No, yeah, that'd be in about the cutoff. I'd say ten 275 00:18:25.079 --> 00:18:29.799 years it went to twenty percent as the standard, right and all the time 276 00:18:29.799 --> 00:18:33.559 growing up. I do remember even college it was fifteen percent, fifteen percent, 277 00:18:33.640 --> 00:18:37.400 fifteen percent, but I think you know, yeah, I would say 278 00:18:37.440 --> 00:18:40.079 last ten years. Yeah, it's kind of it's got up to twenty percent. 279 00:18:40.079 --> 00:18:41.839 It's being kind of the storm. The stand okay, And you would 280 00:18:41.839 --> 00:18:45.680 always tip somebody for good service, right, and normally you would tip in 281 00:18:45.720 --> 00:18:48.119 a restaurant? Is that fair to say? Fair to say? All right? 282 00:18:48.119 --> 00:18:52.440 Now, if you go to a concession stand, Staples or I'm sorry 283 00:18:52.440 --> 00:18:56.839 the crypt you buy a drink, they flipped that screen around. What are 284 00:18:56.839 --> 00:19:02.200 you tipping? You want to leave a tip? When do you chip? 285 00:19:02.279 --> 00:19:04.480 When don't you tip? I'll give you an example of somebody that didn't want 286 00:19:04.519 --> 00:19:07.680 to tip, and then we'll open up for calls, and that's coming up 287 00:19:07.720 --> 00:19:11.440 next. And then if you choose not to do you feel badly if you 288 00:19:11.440 --> 00:19:18.720 go to Starbucks or Coffee Bean and they tell you go ahead tip, I 289 00:19:18.839 --> 00:19:21.960 leave your tip right there. Yeah, I'll tell you the problem with all 290 00:19:22.000 --> 00:19:25.880 that and where it's gotten. I've had issues. All right, hold on, 291 00:19:25.920 --> 00:19:27.400 we'll do that when we come back. Do it when we come back. 292 00:19:32.000 --> 00:19:34.920 That's right, let's get back to it, Cruise. I'll do what 293 00:19:34.960 --> 00:19:40.279 you say and get right back to it. Ridney beat Fred Rogan Sunny Tuesday. 294 00:19:40.640 --> 00:19:42.839 Yes, it is all right. Let me tell you the story, 295 00:19:42.920 --> 00:19:47.920 Rodney. I'll tell you the story. Okay, So bride to be posted 296 00:19:47.920 --> 00:19:52.519 on TikTok that she felt guilted into tipping, the person who helped her buy 297 00:19:52.559 --> 00:19:59.519 her wedding dress guilted into it. It's seemingly happening more and more where establishments 298 00:19:59.599 --> 00:20:03.000 ask you if you would like to add gratuity to your purchase, and most 299 00:20:03.000 --> 00:20:07.640 people are reluctant to saying no. So the question becomes, when did gratuity 300 00:20:07.720 --> 00:20:12.720 go beyond restaurant servers, delivery folks, bell hoops and such. What is 301 00:20:12.759 --> 00:20:19.720 your tipping story? Well, it's not really a story as it's just a 302 00:20:19.839 --> 00:20:26.559 you know, a changing or the times or the establishments that we're dealing with 303 00:20:26.720 --> 00:20:32.839 nowadays, where there's some gray area when it comes to tipping what I don't 304 00:20:32.920 --> 00:20:38.079 like it and it bothers me. And this happens I think more often at 305 00:20:38.200 --> 00:20:44.119 at hotels and probably some restaurant, but more often at hotels when you're owning 306 00:20:44.119 --> 00:20:48.400 a room service and things like that. Where the confusion comes in where the 307 00:20:48.440 --> 00:20:56.680 gratuity is included in the bill right right, and oftentimes because it's hit or 308 00:20:56.720 --> 00:20:59.880 miss. Sometimes it is and sometimes it isn't. It isn't like a standard 309 00:21:00.200 --> 00:21:03.359 where all establishments will include the gratuity in the bill. Some do and some 310 00:21:03.480 --> 00:21:08.519 don't. There's two problems with that I have is that first off, if 311 00:21:08.519 --> 00:21:15.319 the server, the person doesn't acknowledge that the gratuities included, right, I 312 00:21:15.359 --> 00:21:21.039 always appreciate and that person always gets more from me if if they if they 313 00:21:21.119 --> 00:21:23.279 let me know. Hey, just by the way that the you know the 314 00:21:23.359 --> 00:21:26.200 gratuities in the bill, so you know you just signed, just sign for 315 00:21:26.240 --> 00:21:30.279 your room service to sign you don't have to tip or anything like that because 316 00:21:30.319 --> 00:21:34.720 it's included in the bill. Even though they leave you a line for gratuity. 317 00:21:36.599 --> 00:21:38.759 Say, if it's concluded in the bill, then why are you putting 318 00:21:38.759 --> 00:21:42.160 a line that I can add, you know, money to the tip. 319 00:21:44.079 --> 00:21:51.319 Secondly, there were times where you had great service at a restaurant and the 320 00:21:51.440 --> 00:21:52.440 recruit you know you was okay, I want to I want to give you 321 00:21:52.480 --> 00:21:55.720 a little something. I want to put some Oh no, the gratuities in 322 00:21:55.720 --> 00:21:57.720 the bill, don't worry about it, just sign well, service was great. 323 00:21:57.759 --> 00:22:00.759 I want to give it a bit more. Why are you determined how 324 00:22:00.839 --> 00:22:03.559 much I caned? There's no standard. Yeah, we say, you know 325 00:22:03.599 --> 00:22:07.559 the rule or kind of guideline is fifteen or twenty percent. Yeah, but 326 00:22:07.640 --> 00:22:11.000 if you gave me great service, I want to give you one hundred bucks, 327 00:22:11.039 --> 00:22:12.319 I want to give you forty percent. I want to give you more, 328 00:22:12.960 --> 00:22:18.680 and and now I something else is different I got to do because it's 329 00:22:18.720 --> 00:22:22.400 already included in the bill. So my calculations are all off. Let me 330 00:22:22.480 --> 00:22:26.000 determine what or if I want to give you less or if I don't believe 331 00:22:26.039 --> 00:22:29.799 the service was great. So I'm gonna tip you, but I'm not gonna 332 00:22:29.839 --> 00:22:33.359 give you that twenty or twenty five percent because the service wasn't so good. 333 00:22:33.400 --> 00:22:36.160 I'll give you ten percent instead. Oh no, but you can't because the 334 00:22:36.240 --> 00:22:38.640 gratuity was already included in the bill. You know, First off, let 335 00:22:38.640 --> 00:22:42.240 me know that it is. Secondly, let me determine what I want to 336 00:22:42.279 --> 00:22:47.599 tip. So those are my my my two main main issues with it. 337 00:22:47.880 --> 00:22:49.680 And if you don't, you do it sideways. I was at the airport, 338 00:22:51.000 --> 00:22:53.599 as you mentioned, I you know, talked about I traveled and this 339 00:22:53.720 --> 00:22:59.000 happens to me a lot nowadays. When you go and there's there's you know, 340 00:22:59.079 --> 00:23:02.079 there's the out made its systems where you can you know, you just 341 00:23:02.160 --> 00:23:04.039 use your phone to pay and do all that kind of stuff. I was 342 00:23:04.079 --> 00:23:07.440 at arrest and when you know those convenience stores that they have along the way 343 00:23:07.480 --> 00:23:11.799 at the airports. Right right there are people working behind the counter and really 344 00:23:11.880 --> 00:23:14.880 all they're you know, not doing a whole lot other than standing there taking 345 00:23:14.920 --> 00:23:18.359 your payment or showing you where to you know, use your phone or your 346 00:23:18.359 --> 00:23:22.799 credit card to go in. I got like a water and some chips, 347 00:23:22.279 --> 00:23:26.440 and I go to pay for it up at the front and the lady said, 348 00:23:26.480 --> 00:23:30.839 holds out the machine that takes the you know, the phone and do 349 00:23:30.920 --> 00:23:37.799 it electronically, and in there it has tip ten percent, fifteen percent, 350 00:23:37.319 --> 00:23:42.839 twenty five percent in there, and I'm like, tip, they didn't do 351 00:23:42.880 --> 00:23:48.039 anything. They they are taking my money, but they didn't go get the 352 00:23:48.079 --> 00:23:52.559 items for me. They didn't serve me, they didn't do anything. Why 353 00:23:52.640 --> 00:23:57.359 is there a tip line item in the bill? And if you don't do 354 00:23:57.400 --> 00:24:00.720 anything, you know, they look at your side number one, number two, 355 00:24:00.839 --> 00:24:03.519 They go, Okay, what do I tip for? Someone just took 356 00:24:03.559 --> 00:24:07.400 my money for getting a coke that I went and got it out of the 357 00:24:07.440 --> 00:24:15.720 fridge myself. Am I supposed to tip those people? It's just gotten so 358 00:24:15.839 --> 00:24:19.640 gray and confusing and really out of hand when it comes to certain establishments and 359 00:24:19.720 --> 00:24:23.319 individuals. Yeah, I hear you. I hear you in all of that, 360 00:24:25.279 --> 00:24:27.480 and that's what I started thinking about. Wait a minute, if you 361 00:24:27.519 --> 00:24:33.759 go to the crypt and watch a game, you buy a beer, you 362 00:24:33.759 --> 00:24:36.720 buy a drink, whatever you buy, it doesn't matter. All right, 363 00:24:37.599 --> 00:24:41.640 Yeah, can I get a you know, a beer, They fill it 364 00:24:41.720 --> 00:24:45.079 up, they put it in front of you, taking them twelve seconds. 365 00:24:45.359 --> 00:24:49.640 All right, and here's the tip. But really, you didn't do anything. 366 00:24:51.759 --> 00:24:56.200 Now, if you don't tip, if you say, well, you 367 00:24:56.240 --> 00:24:59.640 know, I'm none, as you pointed out, they look sideways at you, 368 00:24:59.720 --> 00:25:04.119 and then this you're cheap. Yeah, you're cheap. Well you don't 369 00:25:04.119 --> 00:25:08.319 get it, you're cheap, but you really didn't do anything, but you're 370 00:25:08.400 --> 00:25:12.759 cheap. And then when they bring it up and they'll tell you, you 371 00:25:12.799 --> 00:25:17.680 know, if you'd like to tip, then you feel like you're being guilted 372 00:25:17.720 --> 00:25:21.839 into it. Yeah, you're right. Uh, you know, feel free 373 00:25:21.880 --> 00:25:22.839 to tip, and you know, feel free to tip if you want. 374 00:25:22.839 --> 00:25:26.519 It's whatever you want at your discretion. Well you know here it is ten. 375 00:25:27.359 --> 00:25:32.559 Feel free, feel free. If I wanted to tip, I would 376 00:25:32.599 --> 00:25:36.519 tip. Now. The other side of it, which I get. If 377 00:25:36.519 --> 00:25:40.640 you are working, you know, you're probably making a ton of money, 378 00:25:41.119 --> 00:25:44.480 right, they're probably not paying you a lot of money, and those tips 379 00:25:44.519 --> 00:25:47.720 would help. Yeah, a lot of people that's I mean, their main 380 00:25:47.839 --> 00:25:52.599 income is they basically are working off tips. Like you said, their salary 381 00:25:53.160 --> 00:25:59.960 is minimum basically minimum wage, and and they're you know, whatever extra they 382 00:26:00.200 --> 00:26:04.200 get, that's kind of what they are counting on or living on, which 383 00:26:04.240 --> 00:26:07.880 I think is you know, is one of the reasons why they started adding 384 00:26:07.920 --> 00:26:11.160 into the bill, because there's so many people that don't tip, right, 385 00:26:11.359 --> 00:26:15.079 you know, in situations that have made it bad for everybody. But still 386 00:26:15.400 --> 00:26:19.039 there are a situations where you know you shouldn't have to tip or feel guilted 387 00:26:19.359 --> 00:26:22.799 into tipping. Well. In this situation, the woman's buying a wedding dress. 388 00:26:22.839 --> 00:26:26.519 The person's helping her, she buys the dress, and the woman says, 389 00:26:26.519 --> 00:26:30.680 well, you know, would you like to tip well for what you 390 00:26:30.799 --> 00:26:34.920 help me find the dress? That's your job, wedding store, that's your 391 00:26:36.039 --> 00:26:41.079 job, right, So I look, I get it, minimum wage jobs. 392 00:26:41.119 --> 00:26:45.640 It's tough, and those tips make a difference, But don't you think 393 00:26:45.680 --> 00:26:52.200 you should be doing something where you should be tipped the instead of standing there. 394 00:26:52.799 --> 00:26:56.079 It's like if you order to take out food and you go to the 395 00:26:56.119 --> 00:27:00.440 counter and they give you the bill, there's a tip line on there. 396 00:27:00.839 --> 00:27:04.680 What did you do? Turned around and grabbed the bag and put it in 397 00:27:04.680 --> 00:27:11.480 front of me. Do you tip or don't you tip? Yeah? In 398 00:27:11.519 --> 00:27:15.359 that case, they would argue, well, it goes to everybody. So 399 00:27:15.400 --> 00:27:19.039 the chef who made the food, we're going to I'm assuming that people are 400 00:27:19.039 --> 00:27:22.799 going to say this and call it that we share the tips with everyone. 401 00:27:23.240 --> 00:27:27.440 So it's not just me that you're tipping. You're tipping the chef, you're 402 00:27:27.440 --> 00:27:32.440 tipping the bus boys, you're tipping everyone that works here. Yeah, but 403 00:27:32.440 --> 00:27:38.480 you're charging me more now? True? True? Now I'm paying more because 404 00:27:40.920 --> 00:27:45.599 that's not what I came in here for. It's service charge for what is 405 00:27:45.640 --> 00:27:48.039 that service charge? Some places it is the tip. In some places it's 406 00:27:48.079 --> 00:27:52.839 just the service charge that you No one can really tell you what it is, 407 00:27:52.400 --> 00:27:56.119 right, it's the service charge that we take and put together because we 408 00:27:56.119 --> 00:28:00.319 don't make enough money because the places don't pay us. So you get the 409 00:28:00.359 --> 00:28:03.759 service charge on top of the charge, and you tip, and you look 410 00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:07.960 at the bill and you went, my god, this is fifty seventy dollars 411 00:28:07.960 --> 00:28:11.680 more than I thought I was going to spend tonight, right, or exactly 412 00:28:11.759 --> 00:28:15.240 what I order it? Anyway, how do you feel about it? Eight 413 00:28:15.240 --> 00:28:18.200 sixty six nine eighty seven two five seventy A lot of ways to look at 414 00:28:18.240 --> 00:28:22.160 it. If you are a server or you work in a situation where you're 415 00:28:22.200 --> 00:28:25.519 not paid a lot of money, maybe that tip makes a difference. But 416 00:28:25.559 --> 00:28:29.000 should you ask people for it? Should you try to guilt them into it? 417 00:28:29.640 --> 00:28:33.000 And then on the other side, if you feel like, all right, 418 00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:36.400 I'm not sure what to do. Do you feel guilted or do you 419 00:28:36.519 --> 00:28:40.559 feel bad? I mean, what really? How does it work? Eight 420 00:28:40.599 --> 00:28:45.039 six six nine eighty seven two five seventy. Right, let's hear what people 421 00:28:45.079 --> 00:28:47.759 have to say about this. I want to hear what people have to say. 422 00:28:48.119 --> 00:28:49.720 And another one's fast food? You want to do the fast food window? 423 00:28:51.400 --> 00:28:53.720 Are you supposed to tip there? I mean, so many of our 424 00:28:53.720 --> 00:28:59.119 listeners are drivers and delivery people. Should we be tipping them? And actually 425 00:28:59.160 --> 00:29:03.200 around the holidays? Do yeah? We think? Should you tip them every 426 00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:07.759 time they come to the door? Do they expect it? What are the 427 00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:11.200 rules? What should you do? Because you if you don't know the rules, 428 00:29:11.319 --> 00:29:15.400 then you know they look at you crazy or they may do you know 429 00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:18.880 a lot of people are vindictive and do some damage to their next delivery for 430 00:29:18.960 --> 00:29:22.000 you that you're like, I didn't even know I was supposed to tip. 431 00:29:22.039 --> 00:29:26.400 And the guy's angry with me because I didn't tip him, all right, 432 00:29:26.440 --> 00:29:33.519 ASIX six ninety seven seventy enlighten us next? All right, let's keep this 433 00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:37.960 moving, Rodney Pete Fred Rogan. It is Tuesday, and it's already towards 434 00:29:37.960 --> 00:29:42.440 the end of January for ED twenty twenty four waits for no one. It 435 00:29:42.519 --> 00:29:47.759 is just moving along, really is foles? Go? All right, let's 436 00:29:47.759 --> 00:29:52.440 try to figure out this carnundrum. What is it you do? Because everybody 437 00:29:52.480 --> 00:29:56.000 has faced it A six six nine eighty seven two five seventy. We'll start 438 00:29:56.039 --> 00:30:00.480 with the Mike in Southgate. All right, Mike U, what do you 439 00:30:00.480 --> 00:30:07.240 do about tipping? Well, usually do give a tip. We're a family 440 00:30:07.319 --> 00:30:08.319 of seven, right, I got I got five kids, me, me 441 00:30:08.319 --> 00:30:14.839 and wife and I we you know. My problem is with pizza. What 442 00:30:14.960 --> 00:30:18.160 is the service fee all about? I mean, I'm already paying for the 443 00:30:18.160 --> 00:30:21.839 pizza, So what are you charging me for? For what service? I 444 00:30:21.839 --> 00:30:23.279 mean, like, if you're making me the pizza that I'm paying for, 445 00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:26.000 is that what you're charging me? I don't understand what the service fee is 446 00:30:26.039 --> 00:30:29.920 all about. I mean, we usually do give a tip, but but 447 00:30:30.160 --> 00:30:33.000 that always gets me, like what is the service And we're asked for what 448 00:30:34.039 --> 00:30:37.759 you don't give you. They don't give you an answer that it's like the 449 00:30:37.839 --> 00:30:41.000 run around and try to get an answer what the service fee is all about? 450 00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:44.519 And it's like, you know, I'm paying for a pizza, but 451 00:30:44.680 --> 00:30:48.359 you're charging me to I mean, you're already charging me to make the pizza. 452 00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:51.480 What is the service fee all about? Like, I don't I never 453 00:30:51.519 --> 00:30:52.920 got that. I know one of you guys just brought it up right now. 454 00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:55.039 I was. I was glad to hear it. I was like, 455 00:30:55.079 --> 00:30:59.240 yeah, the service what is the service fee all about? Great question? 456 00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:03.359 It might with you. I'm with you because the service fees sometimes I've gotten 457 00:31:03.359 --> 00:31:07.480 the answer, well, yeah, that's that's the gratuity. That's part of 458 00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:10.559 the gratuity. So you don't have to when you break them all down, 459 00:31:10.599 --> 00:31:14.440 and they, oh, yeah, that's just that's for the gratuity, so 460 00:31:14.440 --> 00:31:17.559 so and I go, oh, so it's already included. Yeah yeah, 461 00:31:17.599 --> 00:31:19.599 yeah, it's included with the service charge. And then some you know, 462 00:31:19.880 --> 00:31:23.799 like he said, make some mumbo jumbo statement. Oh, the service fee 463 00:31:23.880 --> 00:31:29.559 is for the you know, the taxation that we get when we order goods 464 00:31:29.559 --> 00:31:32.440 and services and to prepare the meals, and we have to pay. But 465 00:31:32.680 --> 00:31:36.279 let me give you some bs answer, but you never can really get a 466 00:31:36.319 --> 00:31:40.519 full straight answer what that actually is. I remember filling it on KFI. 467 00:31:40.559 --> 00:31:42.359 I think we had this story and I cannot remember the name of the restaurant. 468 00:31:42.519 --> 00:31:45.960 And if you do, let us know. But they basically said, 469 00:31:47.039 --> 00:31:52.759 effective immediately, we are adding a service fee to the amount of money you're 470 00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:56.039 paying for the food. We're doing it. And then you tip on top 471 00:31:56.079 --> 00:32:00.240 of that. If you go to pizza hunting and pizza's ten bucks and you 472 00:32:00.319 --> 00:32:02.599 realize you just paid twelve to fifty, why did I pay twelve fifty? 473 00:32:02.599 --> 00:32:07.119 It says ten bucks? Well, the service fee. It's the service fee. 474 00:32:07.799 --> 00:32:10.319 But for what then why don't you charge me twelve fifty if that's what 475 00:32:10.400 --> 00:32:15.359 it costs. See, you're not being upfront about stuff. That's the problem. 476 00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:20.119 That's it. You're not being upfront. Shoot me straight and then I 477 00:32:20.119 --> 00:32:22.119 can handle it and I can make my decision. But if you're trying to 478 00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:25.079 do me, hit me with all these hitting charges and all that. Then 479 00:32:25.079 --> 00:32:30.519 I get suspicious and now I don't trust you. All right, Ruben and 480 00:32:30.559 --> 00:32:36.599 Brea, thanks for holding go ahead, Hey guys on Fred and Rodney. 481 00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:38.359 So, first of all, I'm a door dasher, so I and this 482 00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:42.039 is my only job, and it's because I love doing this. I love 483 00:32:42.119 --> 00:32:47.119 driving and I love doing what I do. Now, well, I thinking 484 00:32:47.200 --> 00:32:52.000 about about the tips is yeah, I do rely on the tips. And 485 00:32:52.839 --> 00:32:55.160 students don't tip because they're students. They don't make that much money, or 486 00:32:55.160 --> 00:33:00.480 they don't have a lot of money. People don't have houses or that they 487 00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:04.519 do have, they do tip. But the way I see it is it 488 00:33:04.599 --> 00:33:07.640 comes down to your service. Why say that you're doing like me, I 489 00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:13.000 pick up food or I p h, I go and do the shopping delivery, 490 00:33:13.240 --> 00:33:15.720 or like right now, I'm gonna go pick up alcohol and I'm gonna 491 00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:20.880 take it on myself. So I'm driving ten miles, I'm driving for thirty 492 00:33:20.920 --> 00:33:24.279 minutes, stuck in the fifty seven or on the sixty three way you have. 493 00:33:24.400 --> 00:33:28.960 That's what I think. Yet consider is the white the things that we 494 00:33:29.119 --> 00:33:32.519 do. This guy went all the way out here brum my alcohol from my 495 00:33:32.559 --> 00:33:37.319 food whatever. Yeah, he does deserve tip because I didn't have to do 496 00:33:37.359 --> 00:33:39.599 it. You know, I'm not going across the street to deliver food. 497 00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:45.559 I'm going far away. But I understand when people don't tip, because I 498 00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:50.519 get a lot of those I get when I drive five ten miles and there's 499 00:33:50.559 --> 00:33:54.839 no tip. I don't give them because I'll have pick go ahead. No, 500 00:33:54.839 --> 00:34:00.319 no, I'm with you, and we always tip for deliveries and stuff 501 00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:05.720 like that. Here's the thing. You're doing something. You're doing something. 502 00:34:06.440 --> 00:34:12.079 Yes, you should be tipped, without question. You are providing that service. 503 00:34:12.559 --> 00:34:16.639 You are doing something. The charge is what it costs from the restaurant 504 00:34:16.840 --> 00:34:21.440 and the app. But I think you should be tipped in that situation, 505 00:34:21.559 --> 00:34:24.199 don't you, Rodney, absolutely undred percent, a hundred percent. Because you 506 00:34:24.239 --> 00:34:29.559 are whatever you're getting, whether it's from a restaurant or you're doing some shopping 507 00:34:29.559 --> 00:34:32.719 for someone, you actually physically have to go do something for that person and 508 00:34:32.880 --> 00:34:37.199 drive, like you said, drive and then go deliver it to the doorstep. 509 00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:40.000 Now, if you're a guy that just throws the food over the fence 510 00:34:40.039 --> 00:34:43.719 and takes off, then I don't know. Way, Yeah, it's different. 511 00:34:43.880 --> 00:34:46.079 But but if you're delivering a tip doorstep and you're taking the pictures and 512 00:34:46.440 --> 00:34:50.039 all that. Yes, you deserve a tip for sure, REBN. We 513 00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:52.320 appreciate the call. Thanks for listening, man, Mark and MONROEVI you go 514 00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:57.960 ahead. Mark, Hey, guys, how you doing good? We're good, 515 00:34:58.639 --> 00:35:02.039 excellent. I'm a furniture over for thirty five years and you gotta tip. 516 00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:07.559 That's just you have to man. And as far as me tipping, 517 00:35:07.599 --> 00:35:12.000 I was telling Kevin, you gotta keep the tip gods happy. I think 518 00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:16.920 people that rely on tips are more. They know what it's all about. 519 00:35:17.000 --> 00:35:20.360 They Hey, I gotta tip this guy, or I got to tip. 520 00:35:20.440 --> 00:35:22.880 Well, you know, I just went out and moved somebody. I got 521 00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:25.039 one hundred dollars tip. I go out to dinner that night, somebody gives 522 00:35:25.079 --> 00:35:29.639 me good service. I'm tipping thirty forty percent. Man, you got to 523 00:35:29.719 --> 00:35:32.920 keep the tip gods happy. See, I do agree with you, Mark. 524 00:35:34.159 --> 00:35:37.559 Yeah. And delivery people, I think you should tip them. I 525 00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:43.239 think the question here becomes if you go up to a concession stand and somebody 526 00:35:43.280 --> 00:35:45.639 hand you something and then they say, well, how much would you like 527 00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:49.519 to tip? If you go to Starbucks and there's somebody working behind the register, 528 00:35:50.239 --> 00:35:52.119 well, how much would you like to tip? Well, all you 529 00:35:52.199 --> 00:35:59.199 did is ran my card the other employees, and there's also a tip jar 530 00:36:00.199 --> 00:36:06.559 for the barista. So I think that's the question here. Undeniably, Yes, 531 00:36:06.719 --> 00:36:10.239 Mark, you should be tipped one hundred percent. Guillermo has called in 532 00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:15.079 Guerremo in La and he says he can explain the service fee. So Guierremo, 533 00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:21.400 the floor is yours, explain it to us. Hey, okay, 534 00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:30.719 anyway, the nervous charge is working product, that's former product that is over 535 00:36:30.960 --> 00:36:35.639 right for my produce, Gamo. It's hard for us to hear you. 536 00:36:35.719 --> 00:36:42.000 Is your window down or what's going on? Yeah, that's driving. Do 537 00:36:42.039 --> 00:36:45.599 you have your window down? Were product that's over tight from them on the 538 00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:52.679 menum like the protest. Sometimes you get buck tomato twenty dollars and right now 539 00:36:52.719 --> 00:36:57.079 they're sixty dollars. How are they going to raise the price from the food. 540 00:36:57.960 --> 00:37:00.400 So they had the service charge? All right, Garimon, thanks appreciate 541 00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:02.880 it. Tough to hear him, Rodney, Yeah, tough, tough as 542 00:37:02.880 --> 00:37:07.719 he was driving. I still don't understand the full extent of the service charge 543 00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:15.159 because I've gotten I've gotten both answers of Yeah, it's for the overall maintenance 544 00:37:15.159 --> 00:37:17.159 of whatever and then I've gotten it. Oh, no service charge. That's 545 00:37:17.199 --> 00:37:21.880 the that's that's part of that's the greutuity. So don't worry about don't worry 546 00:37:21.880 --> 00:37:25.000 about leaving a tip because it's in the service charge. I've gotten a straight 547 00:37:25.039 --> 00:37:30.239 answer. Let's go to Compton Maurice. Go ahead. Hey, how's it 548 00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:32.639 going, guys? Good? Good? Uh So I want to make sure 549 00:37:32.639 --> 00:37:35.639 it goes. Let me try to pick up her Ghamo left off on the 550 00:37:35.679 --> 00:37:37.920 service charge, so I work. You do Uber Eats and door Dash. 551 00:37:38.360 --> 00:37:42.800 Part of the service charge is they have they provide insurance for your car. 552 00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:45.840 They have to cover that because they are your employer. That's part of the 553 00:37:45.880 --> 00:37:49.079 service charge. They cover the insurance as well. Okay for your car and 554 00:37:49.199 --> 00:37:52.079 you you have your own insurance, and then they have insurance that covers for 555 00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:57.679 themselves because they are the company. The next thing is nobody should be tipped. 556 00:37:57.679 --> 00:38:00.719 That's just standing behind the counter. You're just standing there taking in order. 557 00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:04.920 That's not too worthy. Somebody that's bringing you food or feeling your drinks. 558 00:38:04.960 --> 00:38:07.679 Somebody that's dropping something off out of your house. Things like that. 559 00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:13.280 People that do Instanctcart, they do door dash, Uber Eats Lift, all 560 00:38:13.320 --> 00:38:15.480 that stuff. They shouldn't tips. Absolutely, But if you're just standing there 561 00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:20.119 punting in order and taking my card and not going and just handing your food 562 00:38:20.159 --> 00:38:22.920 out out of the window, No, anytime you step out from behind that 563 00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:25.280 counter, you're cleaning tables and you're delivering food to me or making sure my 564 00:38:25.360 --> 00:38:30.639 drinks to ReFood, absolutely should be tipps. All right, appreciate it more, 565 00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:32.360 Reese. Let's wrap it up, Nate and Claremont, Nate, appreciate 566 00:38:32.360 --> 00:38:37.920 you holding go ahead, Hey, guys, great to talk to you. 567 00:38:38.039 --> 00:38:45.920 Yeah, Reuben and Brea, Mark and Monroelya absolutely should tip those guys. 568 00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:50.000 But you know, I think, trying to to some extent that companies are 569 00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:53.440 the are the problem. Like I'm also thinking about this whole round up thing 570 00:38:53.519 --> 00:38:58.400 that they do, and it's kind of like the same same feeling. It's 571 00:38:58.440 --> 00:39:00.599 like, hey, would you like around up for YadA, YadA YadA, 572 00:39:00.960 --> 00:39:04.920 And I'm like, it's thinking in my head, you know, these companies 573 00:39:04.920 --> 00:39:07.119 are getting all this credit for giving all this money to whatever cause, and 574 00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:13.440 you don't even totally maybe not understand the cause, but you end up going 575 00:39:13.440 --> 00:39:16.960 to the counter and you get that sideways. Look for the whole first thing, 576 00:39:17.079 --> 00:39:20.039 no, I don't you know, I'm not going to round up today. 577 00:39:20.079 --> 00:39:23.719 Sorry. We get plenty of money for stuff we believe in already, 578 00:39:23.760 --> 00:39:27.559 you know, And it's just kind of funny. The culture is just kind 579 00:39:27.559 --> 00:39:31.039 of changing. Yeah, yeah, thanks for the call. Yeah, no, 580 00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:36.519 absolutely, it's changing and people want a lot of things for nothing, 581 00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:42.639 and it's it's gotten. It really has gotten out of hand. And the 582 00:39:42.719 --> 00:39:47.400 fear of Fred is if you don't tip or you know, you can possibly 583 00:39:47.440 --> 00:39:52.519 get called out for it for not tipping, and then if you hold tip 584 00:39:52.519 --> 00:39:55.360 a lot of times and they remember you. You're always concerned about something maybe 585 00:39:55.360 --> 00:40:00.880 in your food kind of happened to your service, to your food or your 586 00:40:00.960 --> 00:40:05.079 drinking. If you don't take care of the person serving you, bright next 587 00:40:05.079 --> 00:40:10.960 hour, they'll be along. We'll have some spirituality and his musings. Dodgers 588 00:40:12.159 --> 00:40:14.440 are going to get a new left handed pitcher. We got to talk about 589 00:40:14.440 --> 00:40:17.400 that. 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