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Y'all rippedum need advice, so you
don't have come running. Just as fast

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as we can, Shooter's gonna help. Come Man Dix is the Troubleshooter Show.

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Now Tom Martino, Hi, Tom
Martino here, Welcome to the show.

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Three oh three seven one three talk
three oh three seven one three eight

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two five five. Welcome everyone far
and wide coming to the show for help,

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information referrals. I have Jay Bretz
with me from Excel Roofing and we

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like to talk about a lot of
things. There is a new technology out

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I suspect someday this technology will take
over for most places. I don't think

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anyone would. I mean, right
now, hands off Estimate for roofing,

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and he says, in the future, who knows what it will be applied

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to? Jay, Now, there's
nothing new about some apps that give you

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roof square footages, right that that's
not new. So tell me what's new

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about the technology you're talking about,
hands off Estimating. What is it?

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Well, we have on our website
it looks like a Google view of a

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satellite view of the roof and what
it does. But you put your address

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in, you put your your address
in yep, Okay, and then and

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then you have to tell the program
my roof is low pitch, medium pitch

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or steep. And how do you
know? Basically anybody can take a look

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at their roof and tell you yes, I could walk on this or not,

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and that that's kind of the standard
flat, medium or steep. Yes,

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I call it low not flat,
then well, low medium, steep.

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You put in your address and you
come on here, so where is

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it? Keep scrolling down a little
bit, and then there is what will

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my roof cost? Okay, I'm
going to put my address in. Put

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your address in, and then you
take a look at the satellite view that's

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showing of your roof, and you'll
see that the program draws. Okay,

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I got my roof. Now,
oh it's perfect drawing. Is that drawing

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really perfect? Or yeah, it's
perfect. The corners don't need to be

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pulled out. Now it's perfect.
Well, well you see, well,

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hold on, so grab so you
can grab the device and you can.

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It's pretty perfect. Okay, scroll
down just a little bit and tell the

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tell the program if my roof is
a low pitch, medium pitch or steep

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pitch and it picked one for me, didn't it? It does it picks

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the medium. Okay, go ahead, and then and then see my price?

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See my price? How does it
know what kind of roof I have?

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It's going to give you some options. Okay, see my price.

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So now we're going to ask for
just a little bit more information to make

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sure you're not my competition. Okay. And meanwhile, I'm going to be

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doing this and then I'm going to
take a phone call. Here we got

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links links. What's going on with
you? Bro? What's happening? I'm

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looking to install a bathroom in my
basement. By the way, that's a

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cool name. Is that Is that
a given name at birth? No,

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it's a nickname. Okay, I
thought so, but but that would be

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a cool parent links. That is
a cool name. Yeah. Anyway,

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go ahead, links. What's what's
going on? What are you wondering about?

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Well, I'm wanting to put a
bathroom in my basement, and okay,

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I'm talking to a different people contractors
that's on your referral list. Yeah.

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They told me the first to do
is get a plumbing contractor to come

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in there. And it has to
be pumped up to go into my septic

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system. And so I need somebody
to come in and do the cut the

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concrete, put the plumbing in the
ground. And well, I'm not sure

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if I totally agree with that,
because a plumber, yes, you do

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need it, what's called ground plumbing. Ground plumbing brings or plumbing to where

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you want the bathroom. But it
really doesn't that the ground plumber should not

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be the one to decide where the
toilet goes and where the shower goes.

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Is this going to be a toilet
and shower? Yeah? Oh yeah,

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my I'm fishing to move my mother
in lawience, she's okay, okay.

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Normally, normally this is what happens. You get some kind of a designer

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to help you, or somebody who
can come up with a plan and a

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contractor should help you do that.
In fact, I'm a little upset that

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somebody on my list would say,
go get a plumber first. I mean,

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where the hell a plumber is not
going to tell you where to put

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stuff it did? Did they already
come out and look at it and make

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a drawing or did they just say
get a plumber first. Yeah, no,

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I've got I've got the you know, drawings and everything that well I've

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made. Okay, that's right,
Yes, so that's what you do first

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the ground plumbing. Yes, that
so so, Yes, that is true.

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You you have the drawings, now
you know where stuff is going to

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be. The plumber can take those
drawings and place where you need the drops

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for the drains. That's what they
put in first. Okay. Now did

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you say it's going to have to
come up and out with a pump to

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get to your step to your a
sewer. Yeah. What they do in

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a basement in a situation like this, they have all the drains go to

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a tank and then you put a
mace rating pump in there. Okay,

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why is that? Why is that
normally? Is it? Is it way

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below grade? Is that what it
is? Yes? Okay, that's okay,

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fine, so so far, so
good. You're getting good advice.

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Now what you want to know who
to call? Yes, that is correct.

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Okay, We're going to try a
couple of people and figure this out

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because this is not normal service plumbing. Tom, I mean, I want

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to chime in on this one when
you have time. This exact situation in

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my house, go ahead, where
the septic is all gravity fed off of

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the top level, but the lower
level there is a sump pump and all

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of the black water has to go
into this pit like the like the callers

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describing, and then a pump brings
it up from the lower level to the

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upper level so it can get into
the septic system. But what I discovered

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the hard way is you have to
make sure that nobody puts anything in that

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toilet except for toilet paper. If
they put in like baby wipes or anything

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like that, it will clog the
pump. So one of my recommendations to

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the caller is that you get a
pump with a grinder in it, and

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the grinders somebody, but yes,
similar to that garbage. By the way,

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let's bring up. Let's bring up
is what you call it? There?

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Right now? Mark Schimanski for his
commercial? Is Mark there? I

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want to ask kim because and for
sure, there should be a backup power

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supply for that pump, because if
the power ever goes down then somebody flushes

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the toilet or something, it will
cause the reservoir, It will cause that

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that pit to overflow. Are you
there, Mark? Getting them right now?

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Oh you don't have them up yet? Okay, yeah, get him

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on right now, and then I'll
ask him a question as well. And

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the other thing that I did online? Tom is I made sure I put

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some electronic water sensors on top of
it because it did overflow one time.

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Oh my god, that would be
terrible. It's horrible. It's this blackbo

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links. What is your main question? Oh, I just need to know

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who to call. Okay, just
look at first, here's what I want

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And Deputy Doc is he in the
studio? I think he is? Is

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he in the studio? Tom?
Hey? Doc? Call plumb line fix

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it? Eight eight eight eight heating
euro plumbing. Just get see if they

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do what's called ground plumbing. So
they have to go through the concrete,

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They have to go into where the
bathroom's going to be, and you may

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need another contractor to come back and
fix the concrete. Mark Schumansky is here

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from Genesis Total Exteriors to do a
commercial. And before we get to that,

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let me just ask him, Mark, have you installed bathrooms and basements

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that had to have this done?
We're doing too now, I've never had

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We've done it in other commercial buildings, not in a residential Okay, so

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where it has to go to a
collection tank and then be pumped to Okay,

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now, and just like Jay was
talking, you know, you get

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one that choose it up first,
and yep, you don't worry about such

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things a macerator pump or maceration pump. Those maserrators to them, you can't.

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I can't overemphasize how important they are
because well, yeah, otherwise if

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somebody put because they sell all sorts
of pumps and the cheap pumps don't have

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that amount. No, no,
no, that it's a grinder. I

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mean it'll grind. It's like a
garbage's base. Yeah, you need to

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have it so if somebody throws like
a wash off in there, that it

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has the ability to grind up that
washcloth. Otherwise it will it will.

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But still with that mass raider,
you still don't want a lot of stuff

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going into that toilet. But you
can use normal toilet paper. Did they

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tell you you couldn't use normal toilet
paper? Links? Links? You can

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use normal stuff. You just can't, you know, it's just you just

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use your common sense. Well I'm
gonna I had mine got doogged because people

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were putting baby wipes in it.
No, not baby wipes, but normal

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toilet Ye, So you have to
you have to let you have is the

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way you have to do is you
have to take care of it, okay.

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In other words, you treat it
with care, But that doesn't mean

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you can't use it as a toilet
as a toilet is intended to use be

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used. But it's amazing what people
do with a toilet. Links are you?

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Are you still there? We're going
to find out who you call.

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We're making some calls for you.
Mark, when you have done this kind

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of thing. Regular service plumbers don't
necessarily do uh. And you can call

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Howie too. I know how he's
listening probably at uh yeah, at he's

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he's really good and we can call
him at Quality First Plumbing. Just find

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out. But Mark, have you
found Normal service plumbers don't normally do that?

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Right? Well? Again, my
plumber does because we we've done it

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before, and you know this is
my only thing. Yeah, but your

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plumber is for new construction. It's
not a normal service plumber. Is it

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correct? It's it's not. It's
not a repair he does. My plumber

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does no repair work. He only
does new construction or remodel with him,

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exactly. So, Links, did
you pick a contractor yet for your bathroom?

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No? Not yet? I okay, all right, Well I'll tell

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you what if you want to listen
or hang on, we will get you

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some recommendations on and and it's commonly
called ground plumbing. Mark is that real

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or rough in? Ground plumbing for
a bathroom? Well rough in? And

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yeah, rough in and then yeah, I'm imagine we have to cut the

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concrete, you know, put the
drains need to be go through inspection and

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backfill the concrete. Yeah. So
it's uh, and and will the plumbers

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do will the will the plumbers do
that? The concrete work too? Yeah,

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my plumber does my concrete work for
me. It's just easier because then

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he cuts it where he was exactly. Then he lays the pike, goes

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through inspection, and he pours back
the concrete for me. And okay,

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good, thank you, And uh, we have more coming up. I'm

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Hi Tom Martino, you're troubleshooter three
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three eight two five five h Jay
Brett is with him from Excel Roofing.

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He brought the real boss of the
place, Charlie, his Corgie, and

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Charlie did not like the treats I
bought him. You know, I knew

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someday, Charlie we'd be back,
because he comes to visit every now and

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then and he's right. I'm gonna
I'm gonna get his picture right there.

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Hold on, there he is.
He's on camera for all the YouTube audience

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and my oh, not just my
YouTube morons, but now my Facebook funkies.

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I gave them a nickname. There's
Charlie. He's a little bored.

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He might be bored. I don't
know. This is this show doesn't appeal

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to dogs. Let's talk to where
where we have some calls. We're gonna

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take Wilmer. Wilmer, go ahead, what's going on? Hi? I'm

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with Smith Plumbing and Heating and speaking
about that guy with the bathroom in the

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basement and having to get up grinder
pump and get that out. I've done

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plenty of those, and so have
we here. So I'm more than a

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welcome. We are starting to serve
Denver. Now, okay, so Smith

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Plumbing and Heating, and you do
ground plumbing and rough in plumbing right through

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the concrete. You can do that
holding tank and the maceration pump and all

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of that. Yes, I've done
plenty of Matter of fact, a couple

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of months ago, I've done wanting
this guy I want one in his garage

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and anyways, yeah, same things
gotta get it. Uh Links, Where

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are you located? Tom? What's
the ballpark price for one of these?

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I don't know. I'm going to
find out links. Where are you located?

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Links? I don't know where the
hell he is, but anyway,

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I'm not going to wait for him. So Wilmer, I'm going to give

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out Smith's information. They're in Colorado
Springs, but he says they're coming up

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north down and he does a lot
of that work. The website is Smith

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Pink Trucks dot com. Smith Pink
Trucks dot com. Seven one nine okay

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for Wilmer the plumber, Wilmer at
Smith. He's familiar with this kind of

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plumbing. Seven one nine three for
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of our others? Yeah, I
got a touch with plumb Line they do

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it, and I'm waiting Plumbline Services
dot com. Who else? And I'm

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waiting for a callback from eight eight
eight okay? Eight eight eight Heating,

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which also, of course eight eight
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well as their high efficiency furnace replacements. They're really trying to get into that

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high efficiency stuff for people saving money, not just on the installation but uh

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yeah, so eight let me give
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three oh three seven seven zero two
seven seven six. Plumb line services three

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oh three, five eight six ten
eighty six. Smith, as we said

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before, is seven one nine nine
two forty two sixty nine, and fix

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it twenty four to seven. I'm
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figure it out. They're at seven
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Jay, Speaking of energy efficiency,
you were a real bugaboo when it came

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to the efficiency of a roof.
Are you still doing that? Absolutely?

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Yeah. It's not just the roof
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the system means the roof covering,
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and we can throw solar on top
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want to confuse that with a whole
house fan. That's a totally different ballgame,

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so different. A whole house fan
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for the attic. It pulls air
out of the ceiling and it can either

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push it into the attic or straight
out. But that attic ventilation is we're

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going to just ventilate that attic space
in the attic space. Now, you

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can do both, but you could. But what we're talking about now,

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specifically, you must have air moving
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place, meaning the events have to
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it to have a good convection system. It keeps it cooler and warmer depending

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on the season. I know it
sounds weird, but it does now.

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Links. I don't know if you've
heard all that advice we gave you,

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but we have some pretty damn good
companies that do that. Okay, Yeah,

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that sounds like a pretty good selection
there that a couple of those outfits.

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I'll be giving them a call today. Yeah, and let us know

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how it goes. And if you
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sure you pick somebody seriously. We
take that very seriously. On our list.

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There are a lot of contractors out
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now, especially if people want big
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Don't do it. Oh, you
don't do it, darrylne dearyline,

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what's going on with you? Darylne? I got a problem. So I'm

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going to kind of keep this short. The company I was working for we

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were bought out, and so there
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what happened was my four o one
chase got transferred to a scamming outfit.

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Wait a minute, was it was
it transferred as part of this sale or

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was it transferred way before this sale? Probably I would say after Well,

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okay, so you had a four
oh one K and it was with a

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trustee and you were getting statements and
it was a normal four on one K.

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Then what happened. I actually did
not get a statement from the company.

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It was I had it in Fidelity, and I don't know why I

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cannot transferred out of Fidelity. Okay
you okay, So with the old company

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you were with Fidelity? How much
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Just about a little over seven because
I started tell okay seven thousand, yes,

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okay, okay, And it was
for Fidelity. And then what happened

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somehow the company was bought out by
another so they transferred it over to a

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company of trust fund called Millennium Trust
Company. Yeah, out of Chicago,

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and they're they're a scam. I
can't get in there to get my into

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the account. I can't call them. I see they got tons of bad

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reviews. I'm better business bureaus.
So that raises who transferred it? Though?

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That's what I want to know,
who transferred it? I want to

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see grimco company that did because company? Yes? Okay, so Millennium was

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it Millennium Bank? What was it? Millennium? What? It's a financial

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bank that keeps people for one case? Yeah? Okay, So they're a

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scam. Okay, well that's a
big word. I mean, if if

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you're you're telling me they're absolutely a
scam. In other words, they take

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money. Because let me just say
something. I know, we know there

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are a lot of ripoffs out there, but I want to tell you that

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when it comes to finance, okay, there are a lot of regulations and

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if this place was a full scam
just stealing people's money, they'd be shut

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down pretty quickly. So what I'd
like to know is what do you mean

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scam or poor service? Poor service
is probably a better word, because I

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cannot Why wouldn't they talk to me
on the phone? I can't. Well,

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a lot of companies are going that
way unfortunately, So I just need

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to know, do you have their
website. I yes, I do,

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and I have their number. Okay, I want you to give that to

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us off the air. And your
main complaint is that they are basically giving

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you no information. You've got no
information at all, right, and I

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can't log into my account? Now? Did you get an email telling you

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you could log in? No?
I I copied the code and open up

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their browsers. Okay, wait,
what code are you talking about? That's

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what I'm talking about, DARRYLND.
What code. It's a QR code that

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came with the paperwork in the mail. Okay, so you were contacted saying

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you can log on. Okay,
I thought you meant the paipdwork from the

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company, but this was a paperwork
from them. Sorry, my mistake.

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The paperwork you got with the QR
code, who did it come from?

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Yes, a Millennium Trust company.
And Millennium Trust Company said hey, Darylyn,

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we now have your account and here's
how you log in. Yes,

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And then you could not log in, and then you tried to make a

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phone call. Yes, And when
you made the phone call, what happened?

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They basically try to run me through
my account and then he hung up

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on me, and I can call
back. Now I can't get through.

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Okay, So you assume then it's
a complete scam. Yeah, because I

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started reading the reviews on it and
looked into them, and I'm just I'm

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sketching. You know, Millennium Trust
is also Millennium Trust has an office in

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Denver. I don't know if that's
the one you called it, Millennium Trust

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Company. Can you give us a
copy, please, of whatever you got

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in the mail from them? Yes, I can. All right, that's

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what we need and we'll look into
it. Okay, but but I would

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hesitate. I'm not saying scams don't
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this. When it comes to four
one ks iras self directed trust, self

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directed investment, I mean, it's
a pretty good system for regulation. I

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mean there are all kinds of government
agencies, and if this place truly just

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took retirement accounts and stole them,
they'd be around for five minutes. So

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I don't think that's what's happening.
I think you're just getting frustrated and upset,

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and I don't blame you. So
let's see if we can cut through

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the red tape for you. But
before we do anything, you need to

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get us that letter. You got
the initial letter, and let's look at

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it. Three oh three seven one
three Talk three oh three seven one three

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In comparison, call Compass Insurance paying too

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much your coverage at dozens of insurance
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seven to one. Help. You'll
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three oh three nine two zero sixteen
twenty two. Hey Tom Martine, your

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troubleshooter. Three o three seven one
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to five. My my show is
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sleep next to Jay over there.
I'm gonna wake him up. No,

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don't wake him up. Come sit
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you know, I bought treats for
the damn dog and he's too fussy.

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I said, I have some treats
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a jerky? No, it's a
biscuit. He says, no, my

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dog doesn't eat biscuits. He prefers
jerky anyway, So what does he think

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he's the queen's dog or what he
thinks he is the king? There's no

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doubt about that. I love Corgi's
anyway, Brad O'Brien, he's a real

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estate attorney. Hate Brad. I
want to know some one of my YouTube

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morons says that his parents or her
parents, whatever I think is he they

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had They have a rental and it's
month to month for the last three years

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or more. What is the notice
required? I said, I thought it

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was twenty one days? Does the
notice change with how long they've been there?

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Brad brado'brienolslaw dot com. By the
way, that's O'Brien Legal Services,

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real estate law. Go ahead,
Brad well Tom. The minimum notice on

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a month to month Tennessee is twenty
one days advanced notice before the end of

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the rental month, unless the least
a much longer time Okay, So whether

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they're there two years or five years, if it's month to month, twenty

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one days is the amount of time, unless the lease says more. In

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other words, if the original lease
had a provision for thirty days or sixty

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days, and then it reverts month
to month, doesn't it still carry with

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it the basic terms of the original
lease. Well, that depends enough if

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the original written lease still applies.
Some leases do say that this lease shall

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convert to a month to month if
the tenant holds over. But it's also

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possible that the original lease kind of
goes away if it didn't provide for that.

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And okay, so it has to
be mentioned in the lease that it

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reverts to month to month, otherwise
it's a normal month to month. Well,

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no, I don't want to say
have to. I mean, you

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have to look at the circumstances of
each case. But if the lease happens

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to helpfully say that this lease will
apply in a holdover situation, then you

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can be pretty confident that you can
go back and look at their written lease

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for provisions other than the I get
what you're saying, but the normal would

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be twenty one days unless altered by
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sometimes people call me, see I've
been a tenant for five years or ten

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years. That just doesn't really change
the fact that it's the same rule as

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if you've only been there for one
year. Okay, Now I have an

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attorney joke because when you ask,
Brad's pretty good at giving us straight answers,

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but he always has he always has
to caution, well, it depends

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on this, this, this,
this, this, this, and it

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does it does depend on this,
this, this, this this. You

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know, you ask an accountant how
much is too and two? They say

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four. You ask an attorney how
much is two and two? They pull

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the shades down and say, what
do you want it to be? Now,

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Brad, here's another one? Okay? Basically, uh, if you

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if you uh have a month to
month okay, And there is like they're

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destroying the property or something like that. We've had a lot of inquiries like

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that. What happens if people are
doing destruction? Is there any kind of

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an emergency eviction or anything like that
or are you just stuck with it?

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Oh? No, there's a special
statute that gives you a much quicker time.

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I believe it's three days for a
substantial violation okay, which could be

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harming, causing injury, or causing
property damage to the property itself. Okay.

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And I want to ask one quick
question. Are there still complications going

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on as a result of COVID or
has that been all fleshed out as far

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as any evictions, back rents and
all of that. Do you know?

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Are you hearing anything? Well?
Yes, there's one limited thing, which

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is if the landlord took government assistance
money for COVID, then in that case

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the tenant gets longer periods notice periods. Oh okay. Brad O'Brien O'Brien Legal

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at dozens of insurance companies find out
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help. You'll think you're his only
customer when you choose Frank durand the real

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estate Man dot com to list your
home with Remax Alliance three oh three nine

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two zero sixteen twenty two. Hey
Tom Martino here three O three seven one

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three talk seven one three eight two
five to five, Carol, Welcome to

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the show. What's going on with
you? Carol? Hi? Tom?

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So, my son was diagnosed with
autism when he was four, and we

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got services when he was younger,
but then they cut him off after he

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was six. And he's twenty now. And wait a minute, wait a

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minute, back when he was six, why did they cut him off?

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want to say nine. And you
know there was not medicaidor Obamacare that were

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waivers this time, but there was, like wait, when he was diagnosed

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many years ago. How old was
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And how severely autistic? I don't
know if severely he's a good word

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for it. But how far on
the spectrum is he? He's moderate,

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he's moderately affected. He you know, he's verbal now he wasn't when he

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was diagnosed, but you know,
and we did get help in the way

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of schooling. Okay, So what's
your question now that he's twenty, So

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we've been trying to get services for
him for over a year. They've told

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me that I need to get a
updated diagnosis, and I've been trying to

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find well what kind of services ended
and when did they end? They ended

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when he was six? But why
did you wait? That's what I'm getting

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at. So you're trying to get
services now and they ended fourteen years ago.

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Well, see, so he was
in schooling and all that, he

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was having services to that and we
paid for it on our own because it's

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the waiver never went through. So
we paid for like ABA and therapy on

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our own. And now are you
finding it difficult to get services? Yes?

409
00:31:42.359 --> 00:31:48.880
Okay? Did he as a twenty
year old with autism? Is he

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considered disabled? Yes? Completely unable
to work? Yes, basically we've We've

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I've worked with him like we'll do. Uh, this was when my husband

412
00:32:02.519 --> 00:32:05.960
and I were together before. But
I've tried to get jobs with him,

413
00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:08.519
easier jobs, and it's so difficult
for him. He's not able to do

414
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it on his own. Okay,
So what did they give him? Okay?

415
00:32:14.079 --> 00:32:17.440
Does he have like a treatment?
Does he have a doctor? He

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00:32:17.559 --> 00:32:22.160
does, and they I've asked him
does he have insurance? Does he have

417
00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:30.079
insurance, Medicaid okay, does he
have Does he have Medicare or Social Security

418
00:32:30.119 --> 00:32:32.759
disability? No? And we haven't
been able to get that because we need

419
00:32:32.759 --> 00:32:37.960
an updated diagnosis and I cannot find
a psychiatrist who will do that. They

420
00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:42.839
all see children only. Oh come
on, you're telling me there's nowhere to

421
00:32:42.880 --> 00:32:47.640
go for an adult with autism,
not that we've found. And also,

422
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No Tom Martino, Hi Tom Martino
here, welcome to the show. Three

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oh three seven one three talk three
oh three seven one three eight two five

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five. I want to remind you
you can also call while we're on the

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air. Three oh three Martino,
three oh three six eight four sixty six.

435
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So three or three Martino. Now
that's good, twenty four to seven.

436
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So have you call later tonight,
or if you tell a friend to

437
00:34:07.880 --> 00:34:09.599
call and they call the afternoon when
we're off the air, they leave a

438
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name and number, we will get
back to them. That's a guarantee.

439
00:34:14.159 --> 00:34:16.320
So we have Jay Brettes with us
from Excel Roofing today. We're talking about

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all kinds of stuff. One of
the things we're talking about, how do

441
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you get an adult diagnosed or updated
diagnosis for autism? And Carol says she's

442
00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:37.239
having a difficult time. Now.
I don't know how personal I want to

443
00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:46.599
get here, but I know an
adult who was diagnosed later in life and

444
00:34:47.559 --> 00:34:54.599
mild, really mild. So shut
up all of you. And are you

445
00:34:54.639 --> 00:34:59.320
talking about Elon Musk. I don't
know about him. I didn't know.

446
00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:02.800
Well, he's mild on the spectrum. Well I'm talking about Tom Martine and

447
00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:10.880
I can tell you there are places
that do that as an adult. Okay,

448
00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:15.679
Now I don't know about an adult
my age, but let's say thirty

449
00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:21.760
five, thirty six years ago,
so your son is in his twenties.

450
00:35:21.840 --> 00:35:27.559
Now I can only give this recommendation, and I'm not sure what they do

451
00:35:27.719 --> 00:35:36.480
now, but the Anshoots Medical Campus
has a department of psychiatry and they're very,

452
00:35:36.599 --> 00:35:40.280
very good with that kind of thing. Have you have her checked with

453
00:35:40.360 --> 00:35:46.679
them? No? I haven't.
Why don't you try? Now? Have

454
00:35:46.840 --> 00:35:52.320
you tried Denver Health? Denver Health
is well respected. Did you try?

455
00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:58.159
Since he's on Medicaid, yes,
that's where he was seeing his therapist before.

456
00:35:58.280 --> 00:36:01.119
Now he's on he's got access where
he can go to any provider.

457
00:36:01.599 --> 00:36:06.199
But prior to that, he was
on Denver Houthon. Yes. I tried

458
00:36:06.199 --> 00:36:12.360
to get services through them and just
never got a return phone hall the same

459
00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:15.119
thing. We don't have psychiatrists.
I mean they've been telling me this for

460
00:36:15.679 --> 00:36:19.960
months now. They don't have a
psychiatrist to diagnose an adult, and I

461
00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:25.440
don't understand that at all. I
know they do, but again, this

462
00:36:25.599 --> 00:36:30.039
was many years ago. But I
know that there are people that when they

463
00:36:30.079 --> 00:36:36.719
were younger, did not get diagnosed
because they were so mild or something or

464
00:36:36.760 --> 00:36:40.280
they called it something else that are
now being updated. And I know it's

465
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been well, I know it.
Let's say, I know it was being

466
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done many years ago. But I
still think that there would be a psychiatrist

467
00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:53.800
for God's sakes that I mean,
have you looked have you called autistic support

468
00:36:53.840 --> 00:37:00.719
groups, autism family groups and stuff? I haven't tried that. I've just

469
00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:06.480
I tried the Rocky Mountain Health Center, like I said, because that's who

470
00:37:06.599 --> 00:37:08.719
I would need to go to in
Denver to get help for him now.

471
00:37:09.400 --> 00:37:15.679
So no, I haven't tried going
through uh, you know, like any

472
00:37:15.679 --> 00:37:19.440
of the autism group. I mean, those groups are very active and I

473
00:37:19.480 --> 00:37:28.039
am almost positive they're probably going to
help. There's the Autism Society of Colorado.

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There's the Autism Speaks, UH that's
a guide. There's a develop Developmental

475
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Disabilities Resource Center. And then there's
the Denver Autism Community Network. That's an

476
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organization that offers supports for all kinds
of stuff for individuals and families. I

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really believe that you got discouraged,
probably and I don't blame you, but

478
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we can. I think I think
I would start with the Denver Autism Community

479
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Network. I don't have a number
for them, and then the Autism Society

480
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of Colorado. Let's face it,
if they don't know, no one does,

481
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true. I mean, so I
would start with Denver Autism Society and

482
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well or the Society of Colorado,
either one. But I would try googling

483
00:38:25.480 --> 00:38:29.519
that I have these. I don't
have numbers for them right now, but

484
00:38:29.559 --> 00:38:31.280
I have them in my list.
Let me see if it comes up.

485
00:38:31.360 --> 00:38:36.000
Yeah, yeah, yeah, the
Autism I got the number for you.

486
00:38:36.719 --> 00:38:45.360
The Autism Society of Colorado ready,
seven to zero two one four zero seven,

487
00:38:46.559 --> 00:38:54.960
nine to four. That's one.
And then the Denver Autism Community Network.

488
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You know, I want to tell
you something about autism that I never

489
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knew until many years ago, and
that is most people with mild autistic tendencies

490
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or on the lower part of the
scale are not diagnosed by the way.

491
00:39:17.960 --> 00:39:22.360
Just you know, now, your
son seems to be more than that,

492
00:39:22.639 --> 00:39:25.039
right, I mean, he's literally
like, if I met your son,

493
00:39:25.119 --> 00:39:30.679
would I say there's something off about
him? You would? Okay, say

494
00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:37.280
that most people that are slightly on
the spectrum or whatever the word is nowadays,

495
00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:44.840
they don't necessarily like Elon Musk,
for example, you might think there's

496
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something a little off about him,
but you don't know what it is.

497
00:39:47.079 --> 00:39:51.280
But it's not really off, you
know what I mean, He's just I

498
00:39:51.280 --> 00:39:55.800
don't know. He can be mistaken, So go ahead, Jay Jay.

499
00:39:55.960 --> 00:39:59.320
I walked out of the room and
called a very good friend of mine that's

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been dealing with for the last twenty
years. And he's autistic. Yes,

501
00:40:02.440 --> 00:40:05.960
her son is autistic. Her son, she did not want to go on

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00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:07.880
air, right, but I mean, she's an absolute expert at this,

503
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and she told me Rocky Mountain Human
Services. That's that's where this lady needs

504
00:40:14.039 --> 00:40:19.159
to call. Rocky Mountain Human Services. Rocky Mountain Human Services. Okay,

505
00:40:19.320 --> 00:40:22.800
have you heard of them? That's
where I've been trying to call. That's

506
00:40:22.800 --> 00:40:24.159
where I've been trying to get well. When you say trying to call,

507
00:40:24.559 --> 00:40:29.239
what happens when you call? Well, I tried to go down there and

508
00:40:29.239 --> 00:40:31.559
walk in and they don't accept walking. So if you call this number,

509
00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:36.719
they have such a high volume of
calls that, oh, you can leave

510
00:40:36.760 --> 00:40:40.480
a message and they never return the
message. And hystericis too bad mess well

511
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for sure. So this friend of
mine told me what you're describing is correct,

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and it is a challenge. To
get through, you have to be

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persistent. Well, try those other
numbers I gave you too. Yeah that

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now is human services not just for
autism? What is it for? I'm

515
00:40:53.960 --> 00:41:00.159
not positive for everything. I went
to the website here it's r m ah

516
00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:07.079
well RM and then human services dot
org and it says a case management place

517
00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:15.039
and let's see about us our mission. Let's see it says that to re

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00:41:15.119 --> 00:41:19.199
embrace the power of the community to
support individuals creating their I mean, it

519
00:41:19.239 --> 00:41:21.639
really doesn't say much. I mean, honest to God, that's what it

520
00:41:21.639 --> 00:41:29.599
says for families in creating their future. Our services okay, services for adults,

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case management whatever that is. And
it looks like from the photos is

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for people with developmental disabilities. One
of the things that they're highlighting about bringing

523
00:41:42.400 --> 00:41:47.039
how our MHS supports students in bridging
school and adulthood. And I know that

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00:41:47.079 --> 00:41:51.000
this is what my really good friends. Yeah, but she has an adult,

525
00:41:51.079 --> 00:41:53.159
she has a forty year old son. Yeah, so it's this is

526
00:41:53.480 --> 00:41:59.119
not just a transition, but it's
how do you care for autistic people in

527
00:41:59.199 --> 00:42:02.480
adulthood? Yeah? It she needs
a diagnosis in order to become one of

528
00:42:02.480 --> 00:42:07.559
those people they help. So I, like I said, I would try

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00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:12.679
those societies I gave you because they're
specifically for autism. I'm sure they've had

530
00:42:13.159 --> 00:42:16.280
encountered this before. Meanwhile, what
we're gonna do, I'd like to take

531
00:42:16.280 --> 00:42:22.559
your number because after this airs,
a lot of people call us or email

532
00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:25.199
us and they say, you know
what, this has happened to me,

533
00:42:25.559 --> 00:42:31.519
or this has happened to uh you
know, or we here, here's where

534
00:42:31.559 --> 00:42:35.880
you call. So that's what I
would like to do. I would like

535
00:42:35.960 --> 00:42:42.239
to take your number in case people
contact us after seeing the podcast or or

536
00:42:40.719 --> 00:42:45.960
the stream or whatever, and then
we'll get you some more information. Meanwhile,

537
00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:50.480
if anyone listening has information, give
us a call at three zero three

538
00:42:50.519 --> 00:42:54.159
seven one three talk three oh three
seven one three eight two five five Ryan.

539
00:42:54.239 --> 00:42:59.440
What is your issue with an apartment? What's happening? Ryan? Yes,

540
00:42:59.639 --> 00:43:02.639
so I recently moved in after you
helped me deal with that other apartment.

541
00:43:02.719 --> 00:43:07.239
I moved into a new apartment in
the Rhino District on July tenth of

542
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:12.239
last year. Okay, then,
and you moved I went to a brand

543
00:43:12.280 --> 00:43:15.920
new place and that was in July. I got it. So I've gotten

544
00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:19.320
to know all the residents here I've
gotten to do. We have community gatherings

545
00:43:19.360 --> 00:43:22.760
and all this other stuff. Well, anyways, yesterday me and one of

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00:43:22.800 --> 00:43:25.400
my fellow residents that lives here,
his name is Mark. He went and

547
00:43:25.960 --> 00:43:29.760
we went to the Lakers store.
We're going to have a little private gathering

548
00:43:29.960 --> 00:43:34.599
in him. And as we came
back, there's a gentleman who used to

549
00:43:34.599 --> 00:43:37.320
live in our building. I didn't
know that he still technically is on the

550
00:43:37.400 --> 00:43:42.159
lease but doesn't live here. Wait
wait, wait, wait, technically on

551
00:43:42.199 --> 00:43:46.760
the lease. Are you saying he's
a roommate? He was. He was

552
00:43:46.800 --> 00:43:52.199
a former roommate of yours. I'm
not mine. Somebody else that lives in

553
00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:55.199
the building. This guy in do
you have do you have? Arny mate?

554
00:43:55.239 --> 00:44:00.719
I'm just curious, Ryan, do
you have a right? I don't

555
00:44:00.480 --> 00:44:02.480
got it. So me and Mark
were going to get together. We were

556
00:44:02.519 --> 00:44:07.239
going to have just me and him. This dude intrude his problems and his

557
00:44:07.719 --> 00:44:13.719
time into our get together inside Mark's
apartment. Mark, how did he get

558
00:44:14.639 --> 00:44:19.440
How did he get from the street
into Mark's apartment? So he was in

559
00:44:19.519 --> 00:44:23.800
our building trying to get his stuff
from his old apartment. Management was letting

560
00:44:23.840 --> 00:44:28.280
him use the phone. He saw
us getting ready to go upstairs, get

561
00:44:28.320 --> 00:44:31.519
it in the elevator. Yeah,
he followed us in the elevator and then

562
00:44:31.599 --> 00:44:35.639
he asked if he could join when
he got off the same floor as us,

563
00:44:35.679 --> 00:44:37.679
even though he knew nobody on that
floor. So you were going to

564
00:44:37.760 --> 00:44:44.480
another apartment and this guy followed you
in following well not really because Mark's he

565
00:44:44.599 --> 00:44:49.679
did, but he didn't because he
Mark invited him in once he asked so

566
00:44:49.880 --> 00:44:52.239
and that that's his deal, Like
if he wants to do that, that's

567
00:44:52.239 --> 00:44:57.280
fine, but you know, he
kind of interrupted our time. That being

568
00:44:57.360 --> 00:45:01.400
said, Mark and him got both
pretty drunk last night and I had a

569
00:45:01.440 --> 00:45:06.280
couple of drinks but not many.
Then we had him. We asked him

570
00:45:06.320 --> 00:45:07.320
like, hey, where do you
have to go after this? Do you

571
00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:10.599
live here? Do you do you
have family to go to? Where do

572
00:45:10.599 --> 00:45:15.440
you where do you need us to
help you get to? And Mark was

573
00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:19.679
willing to help him get uber or
whatever that took. So that being said,

574
00:45:19.719 --> 00:45:22.239
he kept lading us to saying that
he didn't live here, when in

575
00:45:22.280 --> 00:45:27.079
reality, he is just trying to
get his stuff and he's still on' you

576
00:45:27.079 --> 00:45:31.320
know the least. Still that being
said, we then walked him downstairs.

577
00:45:32.199 --> 00:45:36.800
After we walked him downstairs, I'm
talking to security, telling him what's going

578
00:45:36.840 --> 00:45:39.079
on. Because it's a locked building. You know, you can't get in

579
00:45:39.119 --> 00:45:45.079
without access unless it's during the day. I told security what's going on.

580
00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:49.320
Meanwhile Mark's trying to get him out
the door. Mark is walking in front

581
00:45:49.360 --> 00:45:52.719
of him when the guy proceeds to
go back upstairs. Meanwhile, we don't

582
00:45:52.840 --> 00:45:57.880
know that he doesn't live here,
or it does or whatever. We didn't

583
00:45:57.880 --> 00:46:00.280
know the situation. We just were
trying to figure out a situation, a

584
00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:04.880
solution for him to get where he
needs to go. I think I know

585
00:46:04.880 --> 00:46:07.119
where this is going. One or
both of you got in trouble for letting

586
00:46:07.159 --> 00:46:12.039
him in or not. We didn't
let him in. He was already in

587
00:46:12.079 --> 00:46:16.000
the building when we came. So
where's this story going though? Mark ended

588
00:46:16.079 --> 00:46:22.039
up getting fed up with security and
he went and because he's military, and

589
00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:24.199
what do you mean set up with
security? What was he trying to get

590
00:46:24.199 --> 00:46:29.079
from security? We were trying to
get the guy where he needed to go,

591
00:46:29.199 --> 00:46:30.760
like rather if it was in his
apartment or out of the building,

592
00:46:31.000 --> 00:46:37.119
and we didn't care which security wasn't. But let me just ask you something.

593
00:46:37.440 --> 00:46:40.760
How did he show up in Mark's
apartment and start drinking. I'm a

594
00:46:40.800 --> 00:46:45.480
little fuzzy there, brother. How
does somebody come in off the street and

595
00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:50.920
end up inside the apartment and then
you see them drink? How does that?

596
00:46:50.920 --> 00:46:53.000
That's a giant leap? We're taken? How did that part happen?

597
00:46:53.960 --> 00:46:58.239
That? I don't know other than
the fact that Mark invited him once,

598
00:46:58.280 --> 00:47:00.400
he asked to come in. So
the guy came, well, okay,

599
00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:06.559
then he was invited in. Yeah, okay, okay, but but I

600
00:47:06.599 --> 00:47:10.639
mean okay, so so so then
Mark got pissed off because why he invited

601
00:47:10.719 --> 00:47:15.760
him in. But then the guy
wouldn't leave, right, But then it

602
00:47:15.800 --> 00:47:17.719
took a turn for the worst.
That's correct, though. What did Mark

603
00:47:17.800 --> 00:47:22.960
do? Then? Mark then wanted
him to leave? So Mark has he

604
00:47:22.079 --> 00:47:27.239
has he's military, so he has
military weapons in his house. Was this

605
00:47:27.360 --> 00:47:30.119
the same night? Did this all
happen in one night? Yes? Okay?

606
00:47:30.199 --> 00:47:36.440
God? So Mark then wanted him
to leave, okayun and wanted him

607
00:47:36.480 --> 00:47:38.960
to leave. I didn't know at
the time that Mark had a threat on

608
00:47:39.000 --> 00:47:42.960
his life from the guy. Okay, so what did it? Doesn't matter?

609
00:47:43.000 --> 00:47:47.280
What did Mark do? He ended
up wanting me to go with him

610
00:47:47.320 --> 00:47:51.679
to get the guy out of the
building. He how did Mark get him

611
00:47:51.760 --> 00:47:55.159
out of the building? We didn't, We didn't, okay. He ended

612
00:47:55.280 --> 00:48:00.400
up telling me take my handgun in
case you need it, and I pushed

613
00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:02.199
it back. I said, Bro, I don't know your guns. I'm

614
00:48:02.199 --> 00:48:07.239
not comfortable with this. I don't
want to be in this situation. Ryan,

615
00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:10.559
you know, I don't are you
saying are you saying that Mark handed

616
00:48:10.599 --> 00:48:14.119
you a gun? Now? Here's
what I want to know, not your

617
00:48:14.159 --> 00:48:16.559
feelings. I don't want to know
your feelings. I want to know did

618
00:48:16.599 --> 00:48:22.079
you take the gun? I didn't
physically take the gun, but he put

619
00:48:22.079 --> 00:48:25.719
it in my hand. I gave
it back to him immediately. Then what

620
00:48:27.039 --> 00:48:30.679
right then and there? Then when
I told him I wasn't comfortable, then

621
00:48:30.719 --> 00:48:35.800
he made me feel uncomfortable and unsafe
because he made me go in there and

622
00:48:36.639 --> 00:48:39.239
what are you going? Then?
What? He ended up going to the

623
00:48:39.320 --> 00:48:45.119
ninth floor where the guy was randomly
and trying to find the guy with me

624
00:48:45.679 --> 00:48:47.000
with you know, guns in his
hand. And what was I said,

625
00:48:47.559 --> 00:48:53.239
So hold on, so you accompanied
Mark who was walking through the building armed

626
00:48:53.719 --> 00:49:00.440
looking for the intruder only because he
made me feel uncomfortable? Can I explain

627
00:49:00.519 --> 00:49:08.119
something to you. Your feelings do
not matter in the explanation. What matters

628
00:49:08.440 --> 00:49:12.320
is the appearance. This is what
I'm trying to tell you. Ryan.

629
00:49:12.519 --> 00:49:17.079
I know that you probably did not
intend to do any harm, and you

630
00:49:17.239 --> 00:49:22.199
thought what the hell's going on?
And you were kind of an unwitting dupe

631
00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:28.079
here. I understand that. Yeah, but to whoever is watching, you

632
00:49:28.280 --> 00:49:32.119
look like you ganged up with Mark
on this guy. Keep going what happened?

633
00:49:32.119 --> 00:49:37.159
Then? So then I get a
call from or I get called down

634
00:49:37.239 --> 00:49:40.079
to management this morning. They're saying
that I'm being evicted. He's being evicted

635
00:49:40.119 --> 00:49:44.639
even though this is my first offense, it's his motive. Well, it's

636
00:49:44.639 --> 00:49:47.679
a pretty damn big offense. I
think if a pair of guys were walking

637
00:49:47.719 --> 00:49:52.920
through the building armed, even if
only one of them was armed, I

638
00:49:52.119 --> 00:50:00.320
would evict them both to Well,
I mean, I'm the victim here because

639
00:50:00.360 --> 00:50:05.920
he he made he had me do
things I didn't want to do. No,

640
00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:08.320
that's not true. No, No, Mark, Mark, Mark,

641
00:50:08.480 --> 00:50:13.559
Mark, that's not going to work. I believe you, but it's not

642
00:50:13.599 --> 00:50:17.400
going to work. You went along
because of your weak character. You did

643
00:50:17.440 --> 00:50:21.880
not have enough balls to say to
the guy I'm not going with you.

644
00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:24.079
Dude, you if you're going with
a gun to look for this guy,

645
00:50:24.280 --> 00:50:29.719
I'm out. You could have gone
back to your apartment from the gun back.

646
00:50:30.079 --> 00:50:32.159
Ryan, I told him I don't
feel comfortable with this. You did

647
00:50:32.159 --> 00:50:36.400
give him the gun back, but
you still followed him when he went with

648
00:50:36.559 --> 00:50:40.840
his guns to find this guy.
Let me tell you what would have happened

649
00:50:40.880 --> 00:50:44.639
if he killed the guy. You
would have been an accessory. Did you

650
00:50:44.719 --> 00:50:50.320
know that? Now? I do? Okay? Were you? Were you

651
00:50:50.519 --> 00:50:53.360
charged with anything? I hope you
weren't charged. In the front police police

652
00:50:53.360 --> 00:50:58.159
were called? Who called? Wait? You didn't get to the rest of

653
00:50:58.159 --> 00:51:00.639
the story. Here's what I need
to know. I need to know this

654
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:04.599
because Ryan, we can get you
help or legal advice, okay, but

655
00:51:04.719 --> 00:51:07.599
I need to know the truth.
Not your feelings, but what appeared to

656
00:51:07.679 --> 00:51:10.559
happen. Did I take the fifteen
break or not? Did I not?

657
00:51:12.599 --> 00:51:15.800
Okay, I need to do that
right now. Please hang on, And

658
00:51:15.119 --> 00:51:19.679
you know I just want you to
know something. My goal is to help

659
00:51:19.719 --> 00:51:23.400
you, but first I gotta get
you past your fantasies about well, I

660
00:51:23.400 --> 00:51:27.840
didn't mean to and I didn't want
to, and I didn't really do it

661
00:51:27.960 --> 00:51:30.320
and all of that. Okay,
hang on, we have more coming up.

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669
00:52:10.519 --> 00:52:14.719
one three talk. I was just
on the phone with my wife telling her

670
00:52:14.760 --> 00:52:17.960
that Charlie did not like the treat
she bought. So he likes jerky treats,

671
00:52:19.079 --> 00:52:22.400
I know, because he's he's upscale, you know your chicken breast,

672
00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:30.760
Yeah, jerky anyway, So Ryan, listen, man, let's let's talk

673
00:52:30.800 --> 00:52:32.719
about this really now. I get
it, by the way, and by

674
00:52:32.719 --> 00:52:37.880
the way, I do believe Ryan. I've been in situations that were uncomfortable

675
00:52:37.920 --> 00:52:39.320
and you figure, how the hell
do I get here? Now? I

676
00:52:39.320 --> 00:52:44.119
would hope I have enough sense of
a guy arms himself. I would hope

677
00:52:44.119 --> 00:52:46.079
I have enough sense to say,
hey, dude, I'm not following you

678
00:52:46.159 --> 00:52:49.639
man, it's time to go.
Yeah. Yeah, soon as the gun

679
00:52:49.679 --> 00:52:52.280
comes out, it's time to go. But here's what Ryan said happen and

680
00:52:52.320 --> 00:52:57.159
I believe him. Okay, So
he and his friend were getting together.

681
00:52:57.480 --> 00:53:00.760
Ryan and Mark when he gets together
and have a few drinks. Nothing wrong

682
00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:04.079
with that. They live in the
same building. Meanwhile, this other guy

683
00:53:04.119 --> 00:53:07.639
shows up. Okay, and this
other guy used to live in the building.

684
00:53:07.920 --> 00:53:10.360
And then he gets talking to Mark
and Mark invites him in and they

685
00:53:10.360 --> 00:53:20.159
have drinks, right okay, so
okay. So then Mark then wants him

686
00:53:20.199 --> 00:53:22.239
to leave. But here's what I
need to know. I need to fill

687
00:53:22.280 --> 00:53:25.480
in some gaps. When Mark wanted
him to leave the building, had the

688
00:53:25.559 --> 00:53:35.840
guy already left Mark's apartment? He
said, Okay, here's what I need

689
00:53:35.880 --> 00:53:39.559
to know. Some somewhere along the
line, Mark invited him in for drinks,

690
00:53:39.800 --> 00:53:45.960
right yeah, okay. Now after
that, did the guy leave on

691
00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:49.960
his own or did Mark say get
out of here? No? So Mark

692
00:53:50.039 --> 00:53:52.559
looked at me and I looked at
him, and we kind of mumble under

693
00:53:52.599 --> 00:53:53.960
our breast, how are we going
to get him out of here? What

694
00:53:54.000 --> 00:53:57.599
do we need to do? And
what did you do to get him out

695
00:53:57.599 --> 00:54:00.639
of there? We just walked him
down and then he made it back.

696
00:54:00.719 --> 00:54:05.639
Well, did you say to him
it's time to go, dude? I

697
00:54:05.679 --> 00:54:07.679
did. I told him it was
time to go. I said, where

698
00:54:07.719 --> 00:54:12.480
do you have to go? Where? Where can we help you with anything?

699
00:54:13.679 --> 00:54:15.599
Like? Can we get you an
uber? Can we get you a

700
00:54:15.639 --> 00:54:20.519
hotel? Okay? And then what
happened? Then? What happened? Huh?

701
00:54:20.559 --> 00:54:22.599
He wouldn't tell us anything? And
then we walked him downstairs to have

702
00:54:22.760 --> 00:54:29.840
security deal with it. And then
what Security didn't do anything? And Mark

703
00:54:29.920 --> 00:54:31.639
got fed up? And now wait, so hold on, hold on,

704
00:54:31.719 --> 00:54:37.320
hold on. When you said security
wouldn't do anything, Mark could have gone

705
00:54:37.440 --> 00:54:40.360
back to his apartment and that guy
would not have been there, right,

706
00:54:43.440 --> 00:54:46.679
correct? Then why did listen?
Ryan, don't tell me any more than

707
00:54:46.679 --> 00:54:52.159
I'm asking. Then why didn't he
go back to his apartment and just sleep

708
00:54:52.199 --> 00:54:55.960
it off? Why did he go
back to his apartment and feel compelled to

709
00:54:57.199 --> 00:55:02.400
have to remove the man from the
building. You got just as good question

710
00:55:02.440 --> 00:55:07.000
as I do. Okay, So
we can agree, Ryan, We can

711
00:55:07.079 --> 00:55:14.639
agree that Mark is a dangerous dude
who was drinking and decided he wasn't satisfied

712
00:55:14.719 --> 00:55:20.000
getting the guy out of an apartment. He wanted to be mister a cop

713
00:55:20.239 --> 00:55:22.360
and get the guy out of the
building. So he went back to his

714
00:55:22.440 --> 00:55:28.599
apartment. He armed himself and then
set out to remove the guy. Now,

715
00:55:28.800 --> 00:55:32.320
when he armed himself and set out
to remove the guy, what happened

716
00:55:32.320 --> 00:55:37.679
then was did he actually remove him
or not? No? He did not

717
00:55:37.800 --> 00:55:40.679
the guy. What happened and what
happened? I want to know everything.

718
00:55:40.840 --> 00:55:45.360
He walks out of his apartment with
a couple of guns with you following him,

719
00:55:45.679 --> 00:55:50.760
and what did he do? So? Mark and I went up to

720
00:55:50.800 --> 00:55:52.559
the ninth floor because he asked me
what floor did he go to? He

721
00:55:52.599 --> 00:55:59.840
then pressed the elevator floor, blocked
the buttons, and then pushed me,

722
00:56:00.199 --> 00:56:04.440
not physically, but walked behind me
to push me out of the door of

723
00:56:04.480 --> 00:56:07.840
the elevator. When we got up
there, we then walked the floor,

724
00:56:07.559 --> 00:56:10.199
told me to split up from him
to meet him in the middle to see

725
00:56:10.199 --> 00:56:14.760
if he was anywhere near walk the
floor, and then we went back down

726
00:56:14.760 --> 00:56:17.599
to Mark's place since we couldn't find
him, and he thought the guy this

727
00:56:17.679 --> 00:56:22.000
is how intoxicated he was. Mark
had locked his door when he grabbed the

728
00:56:22.000 --> 00:56:24.440
guns. He didn't know that he
locked the door, so he thought the

729
00:56:24.440 --> 00:56:29.320
guy had barricaded himself in there.
He then told me to grab his keys,

730
00:56:29.440 --> 00:56:30.880
open the door, but don't turn, like turn the knob, but

731
00:56:30.960 --> 00:56:35.639
don't open it so he could breach
in and find where the guy was.

732
00:56:36.239 --> 00:56:40.199
Wait, wait, open what door? Wait? Somebody else's apartment or where

733
00:56:40.199 --> 00:56:45.239
the guy used to know him?
What apartments? Huh Mark's apartment, Mark's

734
00:56:45.239 --> 00:56:50.159
apartment? Mark thought he was back
in his apartment. Yeah, okay,

735
00:56:50.159 --> 00:56:52.840
because Mark used his door unlocked.
But here's what I want to know.

736
00:56:53.119 --> 00:57:00.440
Did anyone see you guys trapesing around
the halls with guns? Yes, three

737
00:57:00.559 --> 00:57:05.920
people did, and then they called
the cops. Right hold on, I

738
00:57:05.960 --> 00:57:09.760
would do the same if I see
a couple guys walking around the hallway and

739
00:57:09.800 --> 00:57:15.119
one of them is armed, I
would call police. So someone called police

740
00:57:15.199 --> 00:57:19.920
that right, Yes, and they
knew we were residents, but they didn't

741
00:57:19.920 --> 00:57:22.159
know what he was up to.
Okay, So then when the cops came,

742
00:57:22.480 --> 00:57:28.000
is that when Mark got arrested.
No, he did not get arrested

743
00:57:28.039 --> 00:57:30.119
at all. He got talked to
by the police. We were told to

744
00:57:30.159 --> 00:57:35.559
come out of their out of his
residence. But Mark has two big dogs,

745
00:57:35.599 --> 00:57:38.280
one of which jumps out of airplanes
with him, so we had I

746
00:57:38.360 --> 00:57:43.760
was trying to help Mark put them
away. Meanwhile, he's trying to put

747
00:57:43.800 --> 00:57:47.719
his guns away. They showed up
not even two minutes after we got back

748
00:57:47.760 --> 00:57:52.000
to his apartment and he went inside, so and then we came outside,

749
00:57:52.079 --> 00:57:55.000
talked to the police, and then
they told us to score our separate ways.

750
00:57:57.280 --> 00:57:59.960
Eagle happened, all right, so
good? And then that you know

751
00:58:00.119 --> 00:58:02.960
what, this guy is so lucky
that he did not get arrested for menacing.

752
00:58:04.559 --> 00:58:10.320
So here's what happened. The cops
left, and then you guys were

753
00:58:10.719 --> 00:58:15.119
evicted. How many days later did
they tell you they want you out?

754
00:58:15.239 --> 00:58:17.840
This happened last night. So they're
just now telling us we have to be

755
00:58:17.880 --> 00:58:22.679
evicted. Now did you go talk
to them? And by the way,

756
00:58:22.719 --> 00:58:25.119
I'm going to tell you what you
let me tell you how not to talk

757
00:58:25.159 --> 00:58:32.400
to them. Okay, don't make
a million excuses. Here's what you say.

758
00:58:32.639 --> 00:58:38.199
Do you want to hear what you
say? I, unfortunately was with

759
00:58:38.639 --> 00:58:47.679
Mark when he got intoxicated. He
grabbed guns to try to remove this guy,

760
00:58:47.920 --> 00:58:54.440
and I went along because I wanted
to make sure he didn't kill anybody.

761
00:58:54.960 --> 00:59:00.880
I would not get into anything else
because you sound like an idiot.

762
00:59:02.400 --> 00:59:06.840
I'm telling you, Ryan, I'm
telling you the truth. Now. Most

763
00:59:07.159 --> 00:59:15.199
likely these people will not let you
remain there. And you love the place,

764
00:59:15.239 --> 00:59:20.239
don't you? I do, because
it's like a five star facility and

765
00:59:20.280 --> 00:59:24.320
I love it. How much is
rent, so it depends on what kind

766
00:59:24.320 --> 00:59:30.599
of unit you have. The range
from ranges from eighteen hundred at like five

767
00:59:30.679 --> 00:59:34.559
hundred square feet or more, and
it goes all way up to four thousand

768
00:59:34.559 --> 00:59:37.960
square feet of sixteen thousand a month. My rent is two thousand and sixty

769
00:59:38.000 --> 00:59:43.039
five a month for one thousand,
fifteen square feet. Did they tell you

770
00:59:43.119 --> 00:59:46.199
for sure they want you out?
Yes. I went down to management.

771
00:59:46.239 --> 00:59:51.159
The first thing they did was scream
at me and tell me get in this

772
00:59:51.280 --> 00:59:53.000
office. We need to talk.
And what did they say to you when

773
00:59:53.000 --> 00:59:57.719
you got in the office. They
told me. The first thing they told

774
00:59:57.719 --> 01:00:00.199
me after I got in the office, she said, I'm not happy with

775
01:00:00.239 --> 01:00:02.800
what happened last night. In fact, I'm pissed my management is pitting my

776
01:00:04.480 --> 01:00:07.920
higher ups or pissed, and that
they want you evicted. They want you

777
01:00:08.000 --> 01:00:15.719
and Mark evicted effective immediately. Now
they did you tell them you were not

778
01:00:15.000 --> 01:00:19.440
armed? And you did not?
And you what did you tell them?

779
01:00:19.519 --> 01:00:22.840
Just tell me what you told them. So I told them that I had

780
01:00:22.840 --> 01:00:24.920
pushed the gun away from Mark and
that I was unarmed. I did not

781
01:00:25.039 --> 01:00:29.119
have the gun at all in my
hand except for when he placed in my

782
01:00:29.159 --> 01:00:30.800
hand told me to come upstairs with
you. Yeah, that was the wrong

783
01:00:30.880 --> 01:00:34.639
thing to do. Okay, all
right, all right, So I never

784
01:00:34.760 --> 01:00:38.519
touched it personally. But that story, you see what I'm saying. Let

785
01:00:38.559 --> 01:00:45.239
me tell you how stupid you sound. That mere admission that the gun was

786
01:00:45.280 --> 01:00:51.679
in your hand for a second says
I was armed. You don't even have

787
01:00:51.800 --> 01:00:54.360
to go there. You never even
had to mention that he put it in

788
01:00:54.400 --> 01:00:59.960
your hand and you gave it back
to him. You simply were not armed.

789
01:01:00.320 --> 01:01:05.920
That should have been your story,
okay, because the other story sounds

790
01:01:06.000 --> 01:01:08.360
like you're an a hole. That's
what it sounds like. Like you're a

791
01:01:08.480 --> 01:01:14.079
dupe and you're lying. That's what
it sounds like. Like you're lying.

792
01:01:15.280 --> 01:01:19.360
I can't help you, Ryan,
You played stupid and you're paying the price.

793
01:01:19.400 --> 01:01:22.280
I swear to God, I wish
I could help you. This is

794
01:01:22.360 --> 01:01:25.519
way too much. You already you
already went there. Oh, he gave

795
01:01:25.559 --> 01:01:29.480
me the gun and I pushed it
away and gave it back to him.

796
01:01:29.639 --> 01:01:32.639
Yet I still went with him,
though unarmed, I still went with him.

797
01:01:32.920 --> 01:01:37.880
What was the excuse you gave for
accompanying him? Ryan? What excuse

798
01:01:37.079 --> 01:01:39.719
did they ask you? Well?
Why were you with him? Did they

799
01:01:39.800 --> 01:01:44.800
ask you that had you called the
cops, as you should have done,

800
01:01:45.079 --> 01:01:49.400
or gone back to your apartment,
you probably wouldn't have been implicated. Did

801
01:01:49.440 --> 01:01:52.440
they ask you? I was in
the process of calling the police when Mark

802
01:01:52.519 --> 01:02:00.880
Winning grabs his guns? Who interrupted
that problem? Who interrupted the Mark?

803
01:02:01.599 --> 01:02:07.960
How did he interrupt you from calling
the police? Well? I was on

804
01:02:07.000 --> 01:02:12.159
the phone with management of the security
company and you walk down his guns.

805
01:02:12.199 --> 01:02:15.000
I'm looking like what in the world? Okay, And I didn't even realize

806
01:02:15.199 --> 01:02:20.639
I really Ryan? Can you step
back enough to you? Can you step

807
01:02:20.679 --> 01:02:30.960
back enough to see how your story
sucks? Ken you? I don't know

808
01:02:30.960 --> 01:02:34.199
what to say, Ryan, I'm
trying to be a friend. I know

809
01:02:34.239 --> 01:02:39.159
it doesn't sound like but I am
you. You watch the guy? You

810
01:02:39.280 --> 01:02:44.639
watch the guy? Okay? Do
I have to take another break? Sorry?

811
01:02:44.679 --> 01:02:47.159
Man, I'm running way out of
time. You watched the guy arm

812
01:02:47.239 --> 01:02:52.639
himself drunk and walk through a building, and you went with him. Okay,

813
01:02:52.800 --> 01:03:01.840
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01:03:24.800 --> 01:03:31.760
with Remax Alliance three all three nine
two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi,

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01:03:31.800 --> 01:03:36.960
I'm Tom Martinez, your troubleshooter three
oh three seven to one three talk listen.

821
01:03:37.000 --> 01:03:38.320
I don't have a lot of time, but Ryan wants the last words.

822
01:03:38.360 --> 01:03:43.119
I'll give it to him and basically, people, AH, if you

823
01:03:43.119 --> 01:03:45.920
haven't heard it, you got to
go back and listen. But he followed

824
01:03:45.920 --> 01:03:51.559
his friend around armed. They were
both drinking. This friend was drunk and

825
01:03:51.599 --> 01:03:54.920
the cops came. No arrest was
made, but they were roaming the halls

826
01:03:54.960 --> 01:04:00.719
of the apartment complex armed and Ryan
didn't have a gun. Person he said,

827
01:04:00.599 --> 01:04:03.599
he's upset, he's being evicted,
he's upset with me. Go ahead.

828
01:04:05.760 --> 01:04:11.079
So when I talked to management,
management wouldn't let me say anything.

829
01:04:11.400 --> 01:04:14.679
They barely let I was just said
it, barely let me say anything.

830
01:04:15.400 --> 01:04:19.239
They did admit to me that they
feel themselves that I didn't do anything wrong,

831
01:04:19.320 --> 01:04:23.719
that it's all Mark. But at
the same time, their hands are

832
01:04:23.760 --> 01:04:27.440
tied. And I agree with all
of that. And I don't think you

833
01:04:27.599 --> 01:04:30.880
personally meant to do anything wrong either, Ryan, I really mean that.

834
01:04:30.960 --> 01:04:35.280
And this is where it gets confusing. They they said that like I had

835
01:04:35.280 --> 01:04:39.519
a gun in my hand, I
walked upstairs with the gun, but I'm

836
01:04:39.519 --> 01:04:43.679
not seen on footage doing it that
I know of. But it wouldn't matter.

837
01:04:43.840 --> 01:04:45.280
It wouldn't matter. I know you're
hung up on that, but it

838
01:04:45.320 --> 01:04:48.880
wouldn't matter if you're with them and
have a gun, or with them and

839
01:04:48.960 --> 01:04:55.000
don't have a gun. But even
then security is defending me, supposedly according

840
01:04:55.000 --> 01:04:58.280
to management, saying that I never
had the gun in my hand, I

841
01:04:58.320 --> 01:05:00.760
never did anything wrong. In fact, I saw uncomfortable with Mark and that

842
01:05:00.880 --> 01:05:04.320
he dragged me into it. They
admitted that to me but but no one

843
01:05:04.400 --> 01:05:10.679
gets dragged. You didn't have to
follow him around, Tom Ratino, he

844
01:05:10.760 --> 01:05:14.719
had a gun. But did he
say you better come with me or I'm

845
01:05:14.719 --> 01:05:20.440
gonna shoot you? What if you
just wanted to go home? I did?

846
01:05:21.920 --> 01:05:30.000
I did? He had a gun? What was it to doh so

847
01:05:32.039 --> 01:05:38.320
hey dog dog Doc? Yeah,
he was afraid for his life. He's

848
01:05:38.320 --> 01:05:42.159
saying, what do you think about
calling the land the management or landlord just

849
01:05:42.159 --> 01:05:45.559
to get their temperature on this.
There's no problem with that. If there's

850
01:05:45.639 --> 01:05:50.840
any way possible this guy could just
maybe be on probation or something there,

851
01:05:51.039 --> 01:05:55.159
I'll give a call. Look,
by the way, I believe him.

852
01:05:55.239 --> 01:05:59.280
I I you know, I really
do believe him. I do, don't

853
01:05:59.320 --> 01:06:01.519
you? Jay? I mean,
I think the guy was an innocent dupe.

854
01:06:01.800 --> 01:06:06.119
But I think they're thinking, I
don't want someone with that poor judgment

855
01:06:06.159 --> 01:06:10.920
living there. It was really bad
judgment, and especially when they're drinking GI

856
01:06:11.280 --> 01:06:15.239
But he's feeling afraid. He say, look, the guy at a gun,

857
01:06:15.280 --> 01:06:16.719
and he says, come on,
let's go get him, and he's

858
01:06:16.760 --> 01:06:26.440
following him along. I mean,
I I go with a sure thing Denver's

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863
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customer when you choose Frank durand the
real estate man dot com to list your

864
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home with Remax Alliance three all three
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865
01:07:02.840 --> 01:07:10.000
need advice so you don't have the
running Just as fast as we can,

866
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Shooter's gonna help. Come man,
this is the Troubleshooter Show. No Tom

867
01:07:17.480 --> 01:07:23.159
Martino, Hello on Tom Martino,
and man, have we had an active

868
01:07:23.199 --> 01:07:25.840
show today? You can be part
of it. Just called. By the

869
01:07:25.840 --> 01:07:28.559
way, you can call three oh
three Martino at any time while we're on

870
01:07:28.599 --> 01:07:30.119
the air, when we're off the
air tonight. If you wake up in

871
01:07:30.159 --> 01:07:33.480
the middle of the night and you're
thinking I need help, well I can

872
01:07:33.519 --> 01:07:36.239
only give certain help, but consumer
help, that is I can help.

873
01:07:36.920 --> 01:07:41.079
Just call three oh three Martino three
oh three six two seven eighty four sixty

874
01:07:41.079 --> 01:07:45.840
six and I'll be there. And
uh, what we're doing is trying to

875
01:07:45.880 --> 01:07:54.599
help, and I am getting so
many texts about Ryan, but I'm gonna

876
01:07:54.599 --> 01:07:57.079
go to the phones. Then I'm
gonna come back to the text about Ryan

877
01:07:57.599 --> 01:08:02.079
who walked around the hallways with an
armed drunk man in his apartment complex looking

878
01:08:02.119 --> 01:08:05.239
to kick someone out, and he
said he was afraid for his life.

879
01:08:05.280 --> 01:08:11.000
That's while he was tagging along.
He thought he couldn't get away, and

880
01:08:11.079 --> 01:08:16.159
he's ended up getting evicted from a
beautiful apartment. So anyway, I want

881
01:08:16.199 --> 01:08:19.760
to go to Marty. Now,
Marty has an inquiry on back. I

882
01:08:20.000 --> 01:08:28.359
never realized until I had this back
surgery how many people suffer from backs,

883
01:08:28.760 --> 01:08:33.079
and especially the mid to lower back, and especially oh, both men and

884
01:08:33.119 --> 01:08:40.880
women, but people over fifty.
You know, it's weird because all back

885
01:08:40.920 --> 01:08:44.960
problems, all of them, every
single one of them, is because of

886
01:08:45.640 --> 01:08:48.239
pinch nerves. Okay, that's what. If your back doesn't have a pinch

887
01:08:48.359 --> 01:08:53.680
nerve, you could have a bad
back and never feel it. And a

888
01:08:53.760 --> 01:08:59.960
bad back in and of itself will
not will not hurt you. It just

889
01:09:00.119 --> 01:09:04.960
it might limit your movement. But
normally even limitations of movements are only due

890
01:09:04.960 --> 01:09:13.680
to the pain it causes. So
to be overly simplistic, all back problems

891
01:09:14.079 --> 01:09:15.840
are due to pinched nerves. Even
if you have a disc, no matter

892
01:09:15.880 --> 01:09:20.720
what you have, it doesn't cause
a problem until it causes pain. Now

893
01:09:20.760 --> 01:09:24.399
I know that's hard to say.
I mean, you could have, like

894
01:09:24.439 --> 01:09:28.319
I said, a little stiffness,
limited movement, But it's the nerve that

895
01:09:28.439 --> 01:09:31.800
drives people crazy. Down the legs
or in the buttocks, up the neck,

896
01:09:32.199 --> 01:09:35.840
down the arm, whatever, And
that's what drives people crazy. So

897
01:09:35.880 --> 01:09:39.880
when they say they have a back
problem, yeah they do, but it's

898
01:09:39.920 --> 01:09:43.640
a nerve problem, that's really what
it is. And I just want to

899
01:09:43.680 --> 01:09:48.560
say that I almost came close to
not having surgery due to stem cell therapy.

900
01:09:48.640 --> 01:09:51.760
I was not a believer. I
was a believer in stem cell therapy,

901
01:09:51.800 --> 01:09:57.159
but not to the degree it helped
me. I was absolutely amazed.

902
01:09:57.760 --> 01:10:00.560
But why did I go ahead and
have the surgery anyway? Because after the

903
01:10:00.600 --> 01:10:06.000
stem cell therapy I got so good
and felt so good, but it was

904
01:10:06.079 --> 01:10:13.159
still a glaring problem that I knew
that at I had the surgery just before

905
01:10:13.199 --> 01:10:16.199
my seventieth birthday, and I knew
I did not want to face that pain

906
01:10:16.239 --> 01:10:20.479
again. At seventy six or seventy
seven, the physical ailment did not get

907
01:10:20.520 --> 01:10:27.840
corrected by stem cells. Somehow it
just shielded the nerves. I but everyone

908
01:10:28.000 --> 01:10:31.840
said that problem is still there and
it will rear its ugly heads sometime.

909
01:10:32.199 --> 01:10:36.640
So I lived kind of like in
fear of it. So I wanted to

910
01:10:36.680 --> 01:10:41.840
get it done and get it over
with, and I did. And so

911
01:10:42.000 --> 01:10:47.880
I had what's called tops TOPS by
Premiu Spine, which was the I was

912
01:10:47.920 --> 01:10:53.079
one of the first to proved procedures
in the country from FDA, and it

913
01:10:53.199 --> 01:10:57.640
was it's an implan and when I
had it done at the time, it

914
01:10:57.680 --> 01:11:02.720
was approved for one level. So
what it does, it's really just a

915
01:11:02.880 --> 01:11:10.840
fusion without a fusion. What a
fusion does, Marty, is it keeps

916
01:11:10.880 --> 01:11:15.880
your back from pinching your nerve.
It stiffens it. They fuse two things

917
01:11:15.920 --> 01:11:19.720
together with a little cage and therefore
you can't move it. So therefore you

918
01:11:19.800 --> 01:11:26.319
can't impinge the nerve. What happens
with a fusion, however, since seventy

919
01:11:26.319 --> 01:11:30.239
five percent of them fail and the
other ones don't necessarily fail, but they

920
01:11:30.479 --> 01:11:36.199
people are miserable in their limited movement, is they put extra pressure above and

921
01:11:36.239 --> 01:11:45.079
below the fusion. Now, when
I had my implant done, it connects,

922
01:11:45.319 --> 01:11:49.319
it takes away the pinching of the
nerve. It raises up your spinet.

923
01:11:49.359 --> 01:11:55.279
It actually takes the place a section
of your spine. And it was

924
01:11:55.319 --> 01:11:58.560
only approved for one level when I
had it done. They're going for multiple

925
01:11:58.680 --> 01:12:02.960
levels they'll have soon. So right
off the bat, what you need to

926
01:12:03.000 --> 01:12:12.000
do is somehow get the nerve unimpinged
somehow, Marty. It's it's the tops

927
01:12:12.039 --> 01:12:16.880
I had done was good, but
really decompression surgery sometimes helps people enough where

928
01:12:16.920 --> 01:12:21.319
they don't need an implant. So
you just have to figure out how to

929
01:12:21.359 --> 01:12:27.600
get your nerves unimpinged so they don't
cause pain. In fact, like I

930
01:12:27.640 --> 01:12:33.039
said, stem cell therapy and chiropractic
can do that if you not severely deformed

931
01:12:33.079 --> 01:12:36.920
back there. So what is your
issue? Is it arthritis? Is it

932
01:12:36.960 --> 01:12:43.680
a bulge disc? What is it? I've got like the spondee spondee Okay,

933
01:12:43.720 --> 01:12:47.159
that's where one Okay, so you
have one level it's slipping over the

934
01:12:47.199 --> 01:12:51.960
other. Yeah, L four and
L five, Okay, that's exactly That's

935
01:12:53.000 --> 01:12:57.079
exactly where mine was. I had
a little of that and I had impingement.

936
01:12:57.119 --> 01:13:00.079
I had arthritis. So they took
out that second and put the implant

937
01:13:00.119 --> 01:13:04.439
in, and you saw the YouTube. Now, if you're only band on

938
01:13:04.560 --> 01:13:08.800
L four L five, this is
the perfect solution for you, in fact,

939
01:13:08.800 --> 01:13:12.520
for any one level, and soon
it'll be for multi levels. So

940
01:13:12.760 --> 01:13:15.880
it's perfect for you. But there's
also other things you can do. There

941
01:13:15.920 --> 01:13:19.680
are other things you can do before
you do that. I'm not telling you

942
01:13:19.720 --> 01:13:25.520
not to do this. But do
you have arthritis as well? Do you

943
01:13:25.600 --> 01:13:30.079
have you can can there be can
they do a decompression of the nerves and

944
01:13:30.159 --> 01:13:34.079
just trim around the nerves from what
I uh, you know, I've been

945
01:13:34.079 --> 01:13:40.439
to a spine neurologist and they said
and I've actually been to where they tried

946
01:13:40.439 --> 01:13:44.880
to put an injection in there and
I watched the doctor do it. He

947
01:13:44.960 --> 01:13:47.159
said, there's so much bone growth
that I have in air. He can't

948
01:13:47.159 --> 01:13:50.840
do the needle. The needle turns
into a hook. He can't can't get

949
01:13:50.880 --> 01:13:55.359
it in there. Okay, And
I do. I do pet every day

950
01:13:55.399 --> 01:14:00.239
on my own oka that I've learned, and I can still play Marty.

951
01:14:00.319 --> 01:14:05.560
Have you found have you found anyone
that does the TOPS procedure. There's a

952
01:14:05.560 --> 01:14:10.560
couple I've just recently looked into this
the last week and there's I live in

953
01:14:10.600 --> 01:14:14.399
the Houston area, and there's somebody
here and somebody in San Antonio. But

954
01:14:14.479 --> 01:14:16.479
I want to know, like I
would be willing to travel, I want

955
01:14:16.520 --> 01:14:20.239
to know who's done the most of
these and who is really skilled in it.

956
01:14:20.399 --> 01:14:23.680
Well, you know what, there's
a lot of doctors that have done

957
01:14:23.720 --> 01:14:27.439
a ton of them, and the
Premia I'll tell you what, the Premium

958
01:14:27.520 --> 01:14:35.600
Spine website does a wonderful job of
keeping track of the doctors, a wonderful

959
01:14:35.680 --> 01:14:41.600
job. I contacted them and I'm
kind of going back and forth waiting,

960
01:14:41.960 --> 01:14:49.239
so we In fact, in Houston
there's a Cushwah. His name is cush

961
01:14:49.359 --> 01:14:56.960
Wilha. I don't know what ethnicity
it is, but it's it's bel Air,

962
01:14:57.039 --> 01:15:00.880
Texas. That's near you, right
because my Yeah, I found him

963
01:15:00.920 --> 01:15:04.439
and he's actually on my insurance plan. That was another question. If I

964
01:15:04.439 --> 01:15:09.399
don't know if you know, but
I'm I'm on you know, my my

965
01:15:09.520 --> 01:15:14.000
company's insurance. Do you I don't
know if you were on Medicare or whatever,

966
01:15:14.039 --> 01:15:16.000
but I'm Medicare insurance. I was
on Medicare with a supplement, did

967
01:15:16.039 --> 01:15:20.119
not pay a dime. Now,
a lot of insurances cover this, but

968
01:15:20.279 --> 01:15:25.319
some of them are getting out of
some of them say, you know,

969
01:15:25.439 --> 01:15:29.479
this is what sucks. Some of
them say, even though it's FDA approved,

970
01:15:29.479 --> 01:15:33.079
it's still too new. But that's
just bs. But if you can

971
01:15:33.119 --> 01:15:39.359
get it covered, this guy is
pretty recommended here. He's he's in bel

972
01:15:39.439 --> 01:15:42.319
Air, Texas. I mean,
and if you've already, have you talked

973
01:15:42.359 --> 01:15:46.199
to this his office? No,
I haven't yet. I kind of wanted

974
01:15:46.239 --> 01:15:50.960
to, Like I said, I've
Then there's a guy in San Antono a

975
01:15:51.000 --> 01:15:56.840
week. Yeah, I tell him
too. But those are the only ones

976
01:15:56.840 --> 01:16:00.159
that see I would not go.
There are doctors who say, oh,

977
01:16:00.199 --> 01:16:03.159
I'll do that, but if they're
not already doing it, man, I

978
01:16:03.279 --> 01:16:08.079
would not do it. Yeah.
So if they're on that site, you

979
01:16:08.119 --> 01:16:11.199
would pretty much oh yeah. No. No, I know the people at

980
01:16:11.199 --> 01:16:15.279
Premia. I know the people at
Premia because I've I've talked to them extensively

981
01:16:15.319 --> 01:16:18.600
about marketing this. I'm not being
paid by them, by the way,

982
01:16:18.600 --> 01:16:24.600
I want to make that clear.
I no, no, not being paid,

983
01:16:24.720 --> 01:16:28.399
not getting anything free. I did
this. I did this because I

984
01:16:28.600 --> 01:16:32.279
found it. In fact, my
doctor went and got trained just for me

985
01:16:32.880 --> 01:16:38.720
when when and he became an expert
at this and he did it before it

986
01:16:38.760 --> 01:16:44.520
was FDA approved to get trained and
then we just waited literally waited for approval

987
01:16:44.680 --> 01:16:47.840
and scheduled my surgery. That's why
I was one of the first. Oh

988
01:16:47.840 --> 01:16:51.520
wow, all so you know.
And by the way, when I say

989
01:16:51.520 --> 01:16:55.239
one of the first, i'm talking
about after FD approval. There have been

990
01:16:55.439 --> 01:17:00.600
several I think they did three hundred
prior. As far as for clinical I

991
01:17:00.800 --> 01:17:02.920
don't know exactly, but they did
a ton of them for clinical trials.

992
01:17:03.760 --> 01:17:06.439
And they've been doing this in Europe
for years, right, yep, that's

993
01:17:06.520 --> 01:17:12.319
right. And it was developed I
believe it was developed in Israel, but

994
01:17:12.640 --> 01:17:16.039
yeah, I think. And the
guy lives in Israel and in Bolder,

995
01:17:16.079 --> 01:17:19.600
Colorado. I came to find out
he's in Bolder too, I think.

996
01:17:19.880 --> 01:17:24.680
But anyway, I've been in touch
with the president, the CEO, and

997
01:17:25.399 --> 01:17:29.399
these guys are solid. This is
a this is a wonderful product. It

998
01:17:29.600 --> 01:17:32.199
and just to let you know,
it doesn't even it doesn't even trip any

999
01:17:32.239 --> 01:17:36.119
of the airport stuff, like you
know, I guess tight. So,

1000
01:17:38.239 --> 01:17:41.319
but that's what it sounds like.
Again, did you try stemseelves there?

1001
01:17:41.640 --> 01:17:45.840
Like I said, if you're just
that far deteriorated physiologically, then you want

1002
01:17:46.159 --> 01:17:51.960
something like this and just you know, feel free to email me at any

1003
01:17:53.000 --> 01:17:58.640
time. You can give him my
email off the air. You look at

1004
01:17:58.640 --> 01:18:00.880
my heart was out to people or
her. Trust me now, Jerry,

1005
01:18:01.000 --> 01:18:04.439
I appreciate. Okay, Bartie,
you stay in touch, Kachina. Give

1006
01:18:04.479 --> 01:18:09.199
him my email, my private email. That's okay for anybody in pain like

1007
01:18:09.279 --> 01:18:14.520
that. Jerry. What's going on
with you? Om, I've been having

1008
01:18:14.600 --> 01:18:19.800
a problem with a company called Diamond
Wireless. Oh wireless okay. I was

1009
01:18:19.840 --> 01:18:26.239
wondering what the hell Diamond Wallet,
Diamond Wireless okay, So tell me in

1010
01:18:26.279 --> 01:18:28.760
a nutshell what it is. We'll
come back and solve it. I hope.

1011
01:18:28.760 --> 01:18:32.039
What's going on with it? Well, I've been getting charged nine ninety

1012
01:18:32.079 --> 01:18:38.760
five a month for the last twenty
years, and what do you have the

1013
01:18:38.840 --> 01:18:44.800
service? Though? Right? They
no longer exist? Tom, wait a

1014
01:18:44.800 --> 01:18:47.920
minute, but about wait wait about
you said you've been you've been charged nine

1015
01:18:47.960 --> 01:18:54.239
to ninety five for the past how
long? At least for the last fifteen

1016
01:18:54.319 --> 01:19:01.039
years. But anytime during that time
did you have the service? Well,

1017
01:19:01.079 --> 01:19:05.600
like I say, it was a
insurance carrier for barous and Wireless, so

1018
01:19:05.800 --> 01:19:10.720
I thought that I had the service
hift, but in trying to cancel it,

1019
01:19:11.439 --> 01:19:15.119
there's no way to cancel it.
Wait a minute, Okay, we

1020
01:19:15.159 --> 01:19:16.800
got to come back and explore this. Hang on, we'll come right back

1021
01:19:16.800 --> 01:19:19.560
to you, all right. Three
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1024
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free, no obligation in comparison,
call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage

1025
01:19:41.960 --> 01:19:45.600
at dozens of insurance companies find out
now three oh three seven to seven to

1026
01:19:45.640 --> 01:19:48.399
one help. You'll think you're his
only customer when you choose Frank durand the

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real estate Man dot com to list
your home with Remax Alliance three oh three

1028
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1029
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1030
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1031
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plastics. You can have drinking water
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01:20:15.359 --> 01:20:19.079
reverse osmosis. You don't do better, You just don't for cheaper ever.

1033
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Three O three eight six two five
five five four. Now Here's what I

1034
01:20:23.880 --> 01:20:28.640
don't understand, Jerry has I guess
had an insurance plan on his cell phone

1035
01:20:28.680 --> 01:20:32.359
and they've been charging him for it
nine ninety five for fifteen years. So

1036
01:20:32.600 --> 01:20:38.079
originally when you had this, it
did something. What did it do originally

1037
01:20:38.560 --> 01:20:45.159
for you? Jerry? It was
an insurance policy that if your phone was

1038
01:20:45.239 --> 01:20:48.760
lost or damaged, right, they'd
replaced him. Okay, now, and

1039
01:20:48.840 --> 01:20:57.319
this was in a so this the
name of the insurance was what Diamond Wireless?

1040
01:20:57.640 --> 01:21:02.039
Now Diamond Wireless? Was that also
the name at the time of your

1041
01:21:02.159 --> 01:21:09.760
carrier? Yes, it was.
Okay, Then did you switch from the

1042
01:21:09.840 --> 01:21:16.760
carrier Diamond to somewhere else? Yes, dud Verizon directly. When did you

1043
01:21:16.840 --> 01:21:26.840
switch, Oh, approximately fifteen years
ago, and that's when they kept charging

1044
01:21:26.880 --> 01:21:33.439
you. That's correct. Okay,
So you had them fifteen years ago and

1045
01:21:33.800 --> 01:21:41.159
when you stopped using them and went
to Verizon. Were they still in business

1046
01:21:42.960 --> 01:21:50.880
as far as I know? Yes? Are they in business now? There's

1047
01:21:50.920 --> 01:21:56.600
a website for them, but the
website, if you try to contact it,

1048
01:21:56.600 --> 01:21:59.680
it's no longer in service. There
was about a half a dozen phone

1049
01:21:59.720 --> 01:22:03.319
numbers online to call them. Every
phone number is disconnected to longer in service.

1050
01:22:04.439 --> 01:22:08.319
Do you know. How did you
do any kind of deep dive on

1051
01:22:08.359 --> 01:22:16.159
how long they've been out of business? No? I did not. Okay,

1052
01:22:16.359 --> 01:22:21.720
So here's the deal. When you
switched over, how did you cancel

1053
01:22:23.119 --> 01:22:32.199
your service with Diamond? Well,
I don't know that I did, because

1054
01:22:32.239 --> 01:22:36.479
I never need to use the insurance. No, I'm not talking about the

1055
01:22:36.520 --> 01:22:46.880
insurance. I'm talking about their service. Well, Diamond Diamond was the service

1056
01:22:46.960 --> 01:22:54.800
for Verizon. Wait a minute,
see, Jerry, I'm confused. You

1057
01:22:54.880 --> 01:23:00.119
said Diamond Wireless was also your service
provider, not just the insurance or are

1058
01:23:00.119 --> 01:23:03.520
you telling me it was only for
insurance. At that time, it was

1059
01:23:03.560 --> 01:23:09.479
called Diamond Wireless Verizon. There was
a kiosk in the mall that said Diamond

1060
01:23:09.520 --> 01:23:13.640
Wireless Verizon, and we bought our
phones for them from them for years.

1061
01:23:14.600 --> 01:23:19.800
So they were a that's called a
Verizon dealer. That's correct. Okay,

1062
01:23:20.199 --> 01:23:25.800
So you kept that dealer? I
mean, in other words, did you

1063
01:23:26.039 --> 01:23:32.600
actively back fifteen years ago switch from
Diamond Wireless a Verizon dealer, to Verizon

1064
01:23:32.760 --> 01:23:40.880
Corporate? Well, I suppose we
did, because well, what do you

1065
01:23:40.920 --> 01:23:43.920
mean that. That's where I'm getting
confused. What do you mean you think

1066
01:23:43.960 --> 01:23:49.640
you did? Well, we've always
had Verizon service. Okay, right,

1067
01:23:50.000 --> 01:23:56.640
and at the time, at the
time we bought this particular phone, Diamond

1068
01:23:56.680 --> 01:24:00.439
Wireless was also the insurance carrier.
Hey, can I make a s suggestion,

1069
01:24:00.600 --> 01:24:05.800
Tom, That's very simple. Don't
pay the bill and when they contact

1070
01:24:05.840 --> 01:24:11.239
you, either a collection agency or
the company. That way you'll have information

1071
01:24:11.319 --> 01:24:14.159
on how to get in touch with
them to solve the problem. When you

1072
01:24:14.199 --> 01:24:17.239
said you can't cancel it, what
are you talking about? You can't cancel

1073
01:24:17.319 --> 01:24:24.760
it. There's no way to contact
a company called Diamond. But it's coming

1074
01:24:24.880 --> 01:24:29.800
Where's it coming from your bank account
or your credit card? It's coming from

1075
01:24:29.800 --> 01:24:32.399
a credit card. You have to
shut down your credit card. You understand

1076
01:24:32.479 --> 01:24:40.399
that. Well, I canceled the
credit card two months ago and got a

1077
01:24:40.399 --> 01:24:45.119
new card with a new account number. They were still able to They called

1078
01:24:45.119 --> 01:24:47.039
it a bridge to cross the bridge
and charge me for it. Well,

1079
01:24:47.079 --> 01:24:49.199
like I said, hold on,
wait no, wait, wait, wait,

1080
01:24:49.239 --> 01:24:53.920
wait wait, do you know why
they were able to do that,

1081
01:24:54.039 --> 01:24:58.680
Jerry, Here's why I do not? Okay, And this is something a

1082
01:24:58.680 --> 01:25:03.640
lot of people don't know about credit
cards. Just because you cancel a credit

1083
01:25:03.680 --> 01:25:10.359
card and get a new number,
you don't have a new account you have

1084
01:25:10.439 --> 01:25:16.680
a new number. Any pre existing
contracts that can be proven will cross that

1085
01:25:16.800 --> 01:25:21.239
bridge you're talking about, and they
can now attach your new card number.

1086
01:25:23.399 --> 01:25:29.039
I had this happen one time to
me where Capital One said, wait a

1087
01:25:29.079 --> 01:25:32.560
minute, you have a contract with
these people, and I said, no,

1088
01:25:32.960 --> 01:25:38.760
they're not fulfilling their end of the
contract. And Capital One said that's

1089
01:25:38.840 --> 01:25:44.039
not for us to decide. You
have a contract and there's nothing you can

1090
01:25:44.079 --> 01:25:47.960
do about it. And I said, then I want to close my account.

1091
01:25:48.840 --> 01:25:51.199
What happens if I close it?
They say, well, then we

1092
01:25:51.239 --> 01:26:00.680
can't pay it. So I simply
close it completely and then got a brand

1093
01:26:00.720 --> 01:26:05.800
new card. Unfortunately, a brand
new account, and it shuts it down.

1094
01:26:06.319 --> 01:26:12.600
They can't bridge that gap. Okay, now, okay, this is

1095
01:26:12.680 --> 01:26:18.359
a this is a Capital One I'm
doing with Okay, with Capital One.

1096
01:26:18.560 --> 01:26:23.199
I was just straight with them and
I told them the whole story. They're

1097
01:26:23.199 --> 01:26:27.760
the ones that advised me I had
to close the account. They says,

1098
01:26:27.840 --> 01:26:32.359
now you open up the account again. Under like if it was Thomas whatever

1099
01:26:32.399 --> 01:26:35.520
Martino, I put in my middle
initial, or I made it in another

1100
01:26:35.600 --> 01:26:40.920
name, my name, I reapplied
for credit. I had to do it

1101
01:26:40.960 --> 01:26:45.680
from scratch and that's what you But
you have to make sure that if you

1102
01:26:45.800 --> 01:26:48.880
do that, they're not going to
bridge that gap because you're being cheated.

1103
01:26:49.000 --> 01:26:55.079
Okay, that and they can do
it because I did it, but that

1104
01:26:55.159 --> 01:26:59.439
will stop the future billing. Now, as far as the past billing,

1105
01:27:00.199 --> 01:27:08.479
that money went somewhere, and Verizon
must tell you, not Verizon in fact,

1106
01:27:08.479 --> 01:27:12.000
well I don't know. Verizon might
know that too, but they must

1107
01:27:12.079 --> 01:27:21.560
know where that money's going. Where
was Diamond Wireless located? It was in

1108
01:27:21.680 --> 01:27:31.720
the Colorado Mills Mall. Oh it
was, yes, Diamond Wireless and they

1109
01:27:31.720 --> 01:27:39.560
were a Verizon dealer. That's how
they did it. That's correct. And

1110
01:27:40.000 --> 01:27:46.720
that money is going into someone's account
and it is okay, well you have

1111
01:27:46.800 --> 01:27:51.039
to find out where it's going.
Who's drawing it? Is it? You

1112
01:27:51.119 --> 01:27:55.279
have to find out, I mean, it's your credit card. Capitol one

1113
01:27:55.359 --> 01:28:00.640
has to tell you that. Have
you done in investigation with Capital One?

1114
01:28:00.720 --> 01:28:06.520
Yet? I certainly have where?
Okay, what account is it going into?

1115
01:28:06.600 --> 01:28:15.600
What entity? Uh? I don't
know what you mean there? What

1116
01:28:15.760 --> 01:28:21.479
where's the money going? Bro?
Where is it going? You said you

1117
01:28:21.520 --> 01:28:30.119
did research? Where is your money
going? Of Utah? Okay, gets

1118
01:28:30.119 --> 01:28:35.760
in Utah. It's in Sandy,
Utah. That's where the company is.

1119
01:28:38.880 --> 01:28:42.079
That's what the satment says. But
like I said, if you try to

1120
01:28:42.159 --> 01:28:45.880
find the company in Utah, it's
not there. Somebody is getting the money.

1121
01:28:45.880 --> 01:28:48.600
I agree there I don't know who
it is, and they're probably getting

1122
01:28:48.600 --> 01:28:54.840
a ton of money from a ton
of people. Yes, if you research

1123
01:28:54.960 --> 01:28:59.479
them and wireless, it's complain after
complain after complaint. Okay, Then you

1124
01:28:59.560 --> 01:29:02.399
need to also call the Consumer Finance
Protection Burrow. You need to put in

1125
01:29:02.439 --> 01:29:10.560
a complaint because you're not the only
one this is happening to, Okay.

1126
01:29:10.840 --> 01:29:15.399
And the way you do that is
you go to you go to the Consumer

1127
01:29:15.479 --> 01:29:24.439
Finance Protection Bureau. It's a there's
a website and you put in a complaint

1128
01:29:24.439 --> 01:29:27.960
on the top right corner and they
have a website. I forget what that

1129
01:29:28.000 --> 01:29:30.520
would the u ur L is.
I can get it in a second here.

1130
01:29:30.039 --> 01:29:34.520
But that's what you need to do. And you will, I mean

1131
01:29:34.600 --> 01:29:41.880
you, you will absolutely get an
answer from them. And did you do

1132
01:29:42.079 --> 01:29:46.279
a did you go to the Secretary
of State in Utah? No? It

1133
01:29:46.359 --> 01:29:51.600
did not, Okay, because you
should because what you would find how much

1134
01:29:51.640 --> 01:29:58.920
money did you add it all up? How much has it been. I

1135
01:29:59.000 --> 01:30:03.880
can't. I haven't done it.
Okay. They were dissolved in two thousand

1136
01:30:03.920 --> 01:30:12.159
and one in Colorado, Diamond Wireless
Networks. Okay, they were dissolved.

1137
01:30:13.039 --> 01:30:19.239
So I believe that you can go
to if this has been Capital One,

1138
01:30:20.079 --> 01:30:26.039
I would sue Capital One for the
money too. But Diamond Wireless literally went

1139
01:30:26.119 --> 01:30:32.119
out of business in two thousand and
one. On March second, two thousand

1140
01:30:32.159 --> 01:30:39.199
and one, they were voluntarily dissolved. Now that money, somebody is creating

1141
01:30:39.319 --> 01:30:42.640
a big scam. I mean,
there's a big scam going on here.

1142
01:30:43.119 --> 01:30:45.800
You should go to the You should
go to the Secretary of State in Utah

1143
01:30:45.840 --> 01:30:51.800
and find out somebody is really pulling
a scam. But man, you have

1144
01:30:51.880 --> 01:30:55.680
to do this. You have to
do this. I can't do it for

1145
01:30:55.760 --> 01:31:00.560
you. You do the Utah government
search. I'm on their website right now,

1146
01:31:00.840 --> 01:31:05.159
and you put in Diamond Wireless.
Somebody took the records and realized they

1147
01:31:05.159 --> 01:31:10.840
could still get paid. I have
to take a break. Okay, here,

1148
01:31:10.880 --> 01:31:16.439
it is Diamond Wireless in Utah right
now. If if it's Diamond Wireless

1149
01:31:16.479 --> 01:31:21.800
too, there's Diamond Wireless life Cycle, there's Diamond Wireless LLC. There's Diamond

1150
01:31:21.800 --> 01:31:27.079
Wireless Dash Utah LLC. Which one
is it. It's in Sandy, you

1151
01:31:27.119 --> 01:31:33.279
said, right, yes, okay, that is in Sandy, Utah.

1152
01:31:33.399 --> 01:31:41.279
That's Diamond Wireless life Cycle LLC.
And the I have the name of the

1153
01:31:41.319 --> 01:31:45.359
registered agent. Bro. I don't
know what kind of what kind of research

1154
01:31:45.399 --> 01:31:47.960
you did, but here's the here's
the I would go after that, that

1155
01:31:48.239 --> 01:31:55.119
registered agent and sue them for every
penny that they've collected from you. Their

1156
01:31:55.159 --> 01:32:01.119
status is expired, however they were. They were last renewed in twenty fifteen.

1157
01:32:01.680 --> 01:32:05.880
There's a scam going on here,
and in fact Capital one should have

1158
01:32:06.039 --> 01:32:12.479
never kept taking that money, and
you should ask Capital one. Listen carefully.

1159
01:32:12.520 --> 01:32:15.159
I want you to call me back. Okay, I'm giving you homework.

1160
01:32:15.720 --> 01:32:20.680
Go to Utah Secretary of State or
their online business search. Find out

1161
01:32:20.680 --> 01:32:25.720
these people print this stuff out.
Then I want you to go to Capital

1162
01:32:25.800 --> 01:32:30.319
one and you say, to Capital
one, how is it that a company

1163
01:32:30.640 --> 01:32:33.359
that is out of business is still
collecting? And you say they cross the

1164
01:32:33.359 --> 01:32:36.640
bridge. I want to know how
they cross the bridge since there is no

1165
01:32:36.760 --> 01:32:41.960
bridge. You make Capital one,
you make them tell you. I would.

1166
01:32:42.000 --> 01:32:45.399
I would go back to Capital one
and I would put them on the

1167
01:32:45.399 --> 01:32:49.560
hook as well because they have a
certain obligation as well. Three three seven

1168
01:32:49.600 --> 01:32:59.239
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1170
01:33:05.159 --> 01:33:10.520
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1171
01:33:10.680 --> 01:33:14.800
paying too much your coverage at dozens
of insurance companies find out now three all

1172
01:33:14.840 --> 01:33:17.520
three seven to seven to one help. You'll think you're his only customer when

1173
01:33:17.560 --> 01:33:21.279
you choose Frank durand the real estate
Man dot com to list your home with

1174
01:33:21.399 --> 01:33:33.199
Remax Alliance three all three nine two
zero sixteen twenty two Pine Tom Martino here

1175
01:33:33.279 --> 01:33:39.239
three all three seven one three top
three oh three seven one three A two

1176
01:33:39.279 --> 01:33:43.199
five five. Well, it's been
quite a busy day. If you have

1177
01:33:43.239 --> 01:33:46.039
a problem, question, or complain, give us a call. And uh,

1178
01:33:46.119 --> 01:33:51.800
I'm telling you this thing about this
wireless charge. I've been looking more

1179
01:33:51.840 --> 01:34:00.520
into it. It's amazing to me
how auto charges can be continued by credit

1180
01:34:00.560 --> 01:34:08.239
card companies and people hardly notice it. And if you take just a few

1181
01:34:08.279 --> 01:34:13.960
bucks a month, can you imagine
what this guy has paid? I mean,

1182
01:34:14.479 --> 01:34:17.039
I mean if you do the math
on this. He's been paying so

1183
01:34:17.199 --> 01:34:21.439
much a month and didn't notice it, and it's for a service that doesn't

1184
01:34:21.439 --> 01:34:27.000
even exist anymore. They went out
of business, well they went out of

1185
01:34:27.039 --> 01:34:32.319
business in two thousand and one in
Colorado, but they have a corporation that

1186
01:34:32.439 --> 01:34:40.520
was collecting from him offering zero services
zero. So if you go fifteen years

1187
01:34:40.560 --> 01:34:45.119
times twelve months, that's one hundred
and eighty months times basically nine ninety five

1188
01:34:45.159 --> 01:34:50.720
were to just say ten bucks,
so they've gotten eighteen hundred bucks from him.

1189
01:34:53.560 --> 01:34:57.319
What I think the problem is tome
so many people do not get their

1190
01:34:57.359 --> 01:35:01.600
credit card statements in paper anymore.
Is just digital. And I know that

1191
01:35:01.640 --> 01:35:06.000
I've kept all of my statements paper
and then I go through them every month

1192
01:35:06.000 --> 01:35:10.239
and I see what I'm being charged
for. And so many people I don't

1193
01:35:10.279 --> 01:35:13.840
think you know how many times I've
gone through my statement and there are so

1194
01:35:14.000 --> 01:35:16.960
many charges. Is it paper or
digital? Well, I go on a

1195
01:35:17.079 --> 01:35:19.520
digital, but I still go through
it. You go through it pdf?

1196
01:35:19.600 --> 01:35:24.640
Yeah, I think I can go
through a PDF and you could print it

1197
01:35:24.640 --> 01:35:27.640
if you want. But I think
so many people get lazy, and but

1198
01:35:27.680 --> 01:35:30.199
I go through it as soon as
goes through it. But let me just

1199
01:35:30.279 --> 01:35:34.800
tell you my problem. My biggest
problem is I forget some of the charges

1200
01:35:34.840 --> 01:35:40.720
on there and start panicking, and
almost every time eventually find out what it

1201
01:35:40.800 --> 01:35:45.039
is. In other words, can
you I can't recognize some of these charges.

1202
01:35:45.119 --> 01:35:47.039
Absolutely, I ordered some parts for
my hot tub. I know.

1203
01:35:48.079 --> 01:35:50.399
Then you're seeing the company and then
you say, wait a minute, I

1204
01:35:50.439 --> 01:35:55.439
never did this. I even called
I've even called capital what the hell is

1205
01:35:55.520 --> 01:35:59.680
this? Or or I've called whoever
I have, I have different cards and

1206
01:36:00.520 --> 01:36:03.159
what is this? And I always
find out it was me. I don't

1207
01:36:03.199 --> 01:36:06.359
think I've ever uncovered a scam.
Well, but you're keeping track of your

1208
01:36:06.359 --> 01:36:10.600
stuff. So many people don't.
Well, I don't really keep track because,

1209
01:36:10.840 --> 01:36:12.960
like I said, if I go
on there today, I scare the

1210
01:36:12.960 --> 01:36:15.079
hell out of myself. It's almost
like I don't want to know because I

1211
01:36:15.119 --> 01:36:20.560
mean I don't know. I mean
I do we Maybe we should like a

1212
01:36:20.640 --> 01:36:27.239
checking register, we should write down, Honest to god, we probably should.

1213
01:36:27.359 --> 01:36:30.840
Now the regulars, I know the
restaurants, I know what restaurants.

1214
01:36:30.840 --> 01:36:33.479
What if you see like a reoccurring
charge for let's say six ninety nine six

1215
01:36:33.520 --> 01:36:38.439
dollars and ninety nine cents and it's
coming out of Vegas something like that.

1216
01:36:38.960 --> 01:36:41.600
I think that you would you start
paying attention to it, wouldn't you?

1217
01:36:42.840 --> 01:36:46.800
Yes, a low dollar amount that's
reoccurring three months? Well, yeah,

1218
01:36:46.920 --> 01:36:53.119
I guess we would. Here's another
problem that people don't realize. If you

1219
01:36:53.199 --> 01:36:56.840
call Capital Ones the worst company to
deal with, the worst, Oh,

1220
01:36:56.840 --> 01:37:00.640
they're they're difficult. Now let me
tell you. Let me tell you why.

1221
01:37:00.720 --> 01:37:05.720
If you have your card that you
use for auto payments, okay,

1222
01:37:06.239 --> 01:37:10.079
do you use your card for auto
payments? Absolutely? I use them for

1223
01:37:10.079 --> 01:37:15.279
at least sixty auto payments. Sixty
Now, if you find one charge for

1224
01:37:15.359 --> 01:37:20.479
four dollars and ninety five cents that
you don't recognize, and you call Capital

1225
01:37:20.520 --> 01:37:25.600
one and say this is not mine, they immediately want to send you out

1226
01:37:25.640 --> 01:37:28.840
a new card. They will not
Oh that's right, they will not just

1227
01:37:29.000 --> 01:37:32.800
remove that one charge. They won't
do it. They will, but then

1228
01:37:33.000 --> 01:37:36.319
you must close that card and get
a new one, that's right. So

1229
01:37:36.319 --> 01:37:42.159
that's why. And when you do
that, you have to re enter sixty

1230
01:37:42.520 --> 01:37:46.119
five auto pays, sixty five of
them, that's right. So when you

1231
01:37:46.159 --> 01:37:48.239
call, though, you have to
say no, think about what is that?

1232
01:37:48.319 --> 01:37:53.000
What is this four ninety nine charge
four, Tell me who this vendor

1233
01:37:53.159 --> 01:37:57.439
is and give me their information.
Because if you just say I'm disputing it

1234
01:37:57.479 --> 01:38:00.479
straight off, straight away, then
yeah, you're gonna have to cancel the

1235
01:38:00.520 --> 01:38:05.960
cards and those virtual cards. Okay, let's say you do a virtual card

1236
01:38:06.000 --> 01:38:09.159
for each merchant, so you know
who they are, and you go in

1237
01:38:09.199 --> 01:38:13.720
and you identify them. Right.
If you get an errant charge on your

1238
01:38:13.760 --> 01:38:19.079
account and you have to change the
card, the underlying card, all of

1239
01:38:19.119 --> 01:38:24.640
your virtual cards go away. So
what good is it? It's the most

1240
01:38:24.880 --> 01:38:30.840
inconvenient thing that has ever happened,
because you it's almost where you say the

1241
01:38:30.880 --> 01:38:32.439
hell with it. It's four ninety
five. I'll live with it. It's

1242
01:38:32.840 --> 01:38:39.000
takes me less time and money to
pay it. I can stop the future

1243
01:38:39.000 --> 01:38:42.000
ones, but to pay it and
say forget the refund, you know,

1244
01:38:42.319 --> 01:38:45.960
I just That's what I'm saying,
stop the reoccurring ones in the future.

1245
01:38:45.359 --> 01:38:49.039
Now. I know a guy.
He will sign up for those introductory offers,

1246
01:38:49.159 --> 01:38:51.520
and you know they always want to
hit your credit card later on.

1247
01:38:53.119 --> 01:38:58.119
He always uses a prepaid debit card
for those, so he'll get the special

1248
01:38:58.159 --> 01:39:01.119
whatever it is twenty five ninety nine
initially and then they want to start keep

1249
01:39:01.199 --> 01:39:03.920
hitting your card. Well, that
prepaid debit card. You make sure it's

1250
01:39:03.960 --> 01:39:09.600
only got thirty dollars on it.
Yeah, I'm telling you that if people

1251
01:39:09.640 --> 01:39:13.760
knew how much they're being screwed each
and every year. Okay, I got

1252
01:39:13.760 --> 01:39:15.960
to take another break. Three oh
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1259
01:39:48.439 --> 01:40:00.640
three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. RiPP didn't need advice, so you

1260
01:40:00.760 --> 01:40:09.399
don't have come running. Just as
fast as we can, Shooter's gonna help

1261
01:40:09.680 --> 01:40:16.439
coming man. This is the Troubleshooter
Show. Now, Tom Martino, Hi,

1262
01:40:16.640 --> 01:40:21.000
Tom Martino here, Welcome to the
show. Three oh three seven one

1263
01:40:21.159 --> 01:40:27.279
three talk three oh three seven one
three eight two five five. What's going

1264
01:40:27.319 --> 01:40:30.119
on in your life? How can
we help you? Well, I want

1265
01:40:30.119 --> 01:40:34.359
to bring up one story that you
know. Each day, we have compelling

1266
01:40:34.439 --> 01:40:39.520
stories on the show, and some
of them I highlight because they're worth repeating.

1267
01:40:39.520 --> 01:40:45.359
And then Deputy Doc did some follow
up on this one. Plus believe

1268
01:40:45.399 --> 01:40:51.479
it or not, I've actually had
some anonymous texts on this as well.

1269
01:40:54.720 --> 01:41:02.880
And here's what's going on. Ryan
called earlier and said, listen, I

1270
01:41:02.920 --> 01:41:12.199
got into a problem with my apartment
complex. He said that he was visiting

1271
01:41:12.239 --> 01:41:16.520
a friend, Mark at the apartment
complex and all of this Shelby Rayne first

1272
01:41:16.600 --> 01:41:23.840
names only Noah, apartment complex given, and he said that he and Mark

1273
01:41:24.680 --> 01:41:30.039
ran into a guy that used to
live in the building and Mark, that's

1274
01:41:30.119 --> 01:41:33.279
Ryan's friend, who called us.
Ryan called us. Mark asked them to

1275
01:41:33.319 --> 01:41:38.119
have a few drinks or invited him
in somehow, and the three of them

1276
01:41:38.159 --> 01:41:43.159
were having drinks and it got uncomfortable
because the guy was getting a little drunk

1277
01:41:43.159 --> 01:41:46.439
and Mark and the other guy,
so they wanted the other guy to leave,

1278
01:41:46.479 --> 01:41:49.960
and they walked him down to the
front door, but he didn't leave.

1279
01:41:50.640 --> 01:41:54.600
They went and talked to security and
said, we think this guy should

1280
01:41:54.680 --> 01:42:01.439
leave. And apparently security did nothing. So got upset and went back to

1281
01:42:01.479 --> 01:42:09.720
his apartment and pulled out some guns
and he told Ryan, I want to

1282
01:42:09.720 --> 01:42:17.199
get him out of here. Now
Mark was drunk and armed. Now what

1283
01:42:17.359 --> 01:42:25.159
Ryan says is Mark handed him a
gun, and now I know why.

1284
01:42:25.199 --> 01:42:30.640
He says that he handed him a
gun. But Ryan gave it right back

1285
01:42:30.680 --> 01:42:32.600
to him and said, no,
no, I don't want to do this.

1286
01:42:35.279 --> 01:42:40.239
So Mark went through the building looking
for this other stranger that used to

1287
01:42:40.279 --> 01:42:44.319
live there to get him out of
the building, and went looking for him,

1288
01:42:44.399 --> 01:42:48.479
drunk and armed, and Ryan went
with him. But Ryan claims he

1289
01:42:48.600 --> 01:42:55.520
was not armed. But Ryan did
make a special point of saying each time

1290
01:42:56.039 --> 01:43:00.680
he told the story, one thing
he emphasized all the time, And I

1291
01:43:00.760 --> 01:43:05.079
wondered, why is that the guy
pushed a gun in his hand and he

1292
01:43:05.159 --> 01:43:13.640
immediately gave it back. So anyway, the cops were called when they saw

1293
01:43:13.680 --> 01:43:24.760
these two guys roaming the halls,
and numerous people saw them, and also

1294
01:43:26.279 --> 01:43:29.880
not just did they see them,
but they saw them with guns and called

1295
01:43:29.880 --> 01:43:33.920
the cops. The cops came,
did not make any arrests because no shots

1296
01:43:33.960 --> 01:43:39.239
were fired, no one was threatened. They didn't you know, they didn't

1297
01:43:39.520 --> 01:43:43.359
just say anything to tenants. They
didn't even find the guy that they wanted

1298
01:43:43.399 --> 01:43:46.000
to remove from the building. God
knows what would have happened if they found

1299
01:43:46.079 --> 01:43:55.640
him, but they didn't. But
the next day Ryan is told what Ryan

1300
01:43:55.840 --> 01:43:59.439
that they want you out of there
or what? Yeah, they wanted me

1301
01:43:59.479 --> 01:44:01.439
a victim. It is what they
said. They said, me and Mark

1302
01:44:01.520 --> 01:44:08.039
are both to be evicted effective immediately. Okay, Now I got some good

1303
01:44:08.079 --> 01:44:15.800
news and I got some bad news. The good news is they're not looking

1304
01:44:15.840 --> 01:44:23.600
for an immediate eviction from you,
right, Doc, that's correct, they

1305
01:44:23.640 --> 01:44:27.319
said. However, they probably will
not renew his lease. Is that right?

1306
01:44:27.479 --> 01:44:31.880
That's also correct? And when is
that March's lease? Wait? Your

1307
01:44:31.960 --> 01:44:35.359
lease is up next month? No? No, no, I'm saying that.

1308
01:44:35.560 --> 01:44:38.760
You said. If they're not going
to renew his lease, who's he?

1309
01:44:39.840 --> 01:44:47.560
No? You? Okay, so
you're not going to be offered a

1310
01:44:47.600 --> 01:44:56.840
new lease. When is your lease
up? Uh? It would have been

1311
01:44:56.920 --> 01:45:03.800
eighteen months from July tenth last year. So basically you got some time left.

1312
01:45:04.960 --> 01:45:11.720
Yeah, well that should help you
a little. Maybe during the remaining

1313
01:45:11.840 --> 01:45:17.800
time you can win yourself back into
their graces. I don't know, but

1314
01:45:18.000 --> 01:45:26.119
the other thing, Ryan, we
have some anonymous reports I get text here

1315
01:45:26.159 --> 01:45:29.920
on the show. Yeah, and
a lot of people listen to this,

1316
01:45:30.960 --> 01:45:39.000
and there are some people who recognize
this story and they swear that they saw

1317
01:45:39.079 --> 01:45:45.119
you with two handguns, not one, but two, and walk with two

1318
01:45:45.239 --> 01:45:50.680
rifles. So I want to ask
you something. At any time could someone

1319
01:45:50.760 --> 01:45:57.079
have seen you with two guns?
The only person that could have ever seen

1320
01:45:57.119 --> 01:46:00.880
you with any gun would be the
security guard. And that was when Mark

1321
01:46:00.960 --> 01:46:04.000
handed me the gun and I handed
it right back. See that's why you

1322
01:46:04.159 --> 01:46:11.039
keep saying you handed it right back, because then you can explain why people

1323
01:46:11.319 --> 01:46:16.359
saw you with a gun. Did
he hand you one or two guns?

1324
01:46:17.359 --> 01:46:23.760
One? He had two handguns with
him and a rifle. And how so

1325
01:46:23.840 --> 01:46:26.800
now it's two hand guns and a
rifle. Yeah, So what I want

1326
01:46:26.800 --> 01:46:29.720
to know is no, he is. He had always said there were multiple

1327
01:46:29.760 --> 01:46:31.359
guns. What I want to know, I'm not trying to trick Ryan.

1328
01:46:31.399 --> 01:46:35.000
I'm really trying to get the truth
here. Ryan. How long was it

1329
01:46:35.039 --> 01:46:41.199
in your hand before you gave it
back? Maybe thirty seconds or less?

1330
01:46:41.479 --> 01:46:45.119
I where was the security guard standing? And why would he have seen this

1331
01:46:45.239 --> 01:46:51.399
exchange? He saw the exchange because
I guess he had no choice too.

1332
01:46:51.479 --> 01:46:56.239
He was sitting at his post.
But I thought this, I thought Mark

1333
01:46:56.319 --> 01:47:00.159
went back to his apartment to get
the guns. He did, and he

1334
01:47:00.199 --> 01:47:02.880
came right back down to the first
floor. And you were were you with

1335
01:47:02.960 --> 01:47:08.560
him or were you on the first
floor waiting for him. I was on

1336
01:47:08.600 --> 01:47:12.880
the first floor trying to stay with
security and wait for the Okay, so

1337
01:47:12.960 --> 01:47:19.279
you stayed with security and you were
there while Mark went back to his apartment,

1338
01:47:20.279 --> 01:47:25.920
that's correct, And then Mark came
back. Was is Mark's apartment on

1339
01:47:26.000 --> 01:47:30.359
another floor? Yes, he's one
floor above me. Did he come down

1340
01:47:30.399 --> 01:47:34.680
the stairs or out of the elevator? Out of the elevator, and when

1341
01:47:34.680 --> 01:47:41.359
he walks out of the elevator he
comes out with two handguns and a rifle.

1342
01:47:42.319 --> 01:47:46.079
Yes. And then he walks up
to you and hands you a handgun.

1343
01:47:47.119 --> 01:47:54.840
Yes, and then you handed it
back immediately. Yes. How did

1344
01:47:54.880 --> 01:48:00.920
he carry two handguns and a rifle? Well? Typically, Well, this

1345
01:48:00.079 --> 01:48:05.600
night, he had one handgun in
his left pocket and kept switching him back

1346
01:48:05.680 --> 01:48:09.960
and forth between the left and the
right pocket on his side, and then

1347
01:48:10.079 --> 01:48:13.760
he had one in his pocket and
then the other one in his hand.

1348
01:48:14.760 --> 01:48:17.760
No, the other one was in
his hoodie in the low sleeve pocket,

1349
01:48:18.119 --> 01:48:20.800
so he had one in his hoodie, one in his pants, and then

1350
01:48:20.840 --> 01:48:27.640
holding a rifle. Yes, that's
correct, the entire time. And you

1351
01:48:27.720 --> 01:48:31.399
only had it for a few seconds. Yes, And when you gave it

1352
01:48:31.479 --> 01:48:35.359
back to him, what did he
say about that? He looked at me,

1353
01:48:35.520 --> 01:48:39.079
tried to push it back, and
then he immediately thought like, no,

1354
01:48:39.239 --> 01:48:43.560
he's right, he's never shot the
guns before. It wouldn't be appropriate,

1355
01:48:43.880 --> 01:48:45.239
and he kind of I could see
that he knew that. I felt

1356
01:48:45.279 --> 01:48:53.560
uncomfortable. Now, this is a
security guard. If I'm a security guard

1357
01:48:54.279 --> 01:49:00.119
and I see a tenant come out
of the elevator with three guns, I

1358
01:49:00.119 --> 01:49:03.399
would run, like Helen, call
the cops. So what did the security

1359
01:49:03.439 --> 01:49:09.439
guard do? He stayed at his
post, set completely still. He was

1360
01:49:09.600 --> 01:49:15.840
freaked out like I've never seen before. Did he say what are you doing?

1361
01:49:16.159 --> 01:49:21.199
He did? And what did Mark
say? He said, We're gonna

1362
01:49:21.199 --> 01:49:26.880
go upstairs and get the guy.
But why? What was the reason Mark

1363
01:49:26.960 --> 01:49:32.399
thought that this guy posed a threat
that I don't know honestly like he claim.

1364
01:49:32.439 --> 01:49:35.359
And when he said we're gonna go
upstairs and get this guy, what

1365
01:49:35.479 --> 01:49:41.800
did the security guard say? He
didn't say anything. He watched us go

1366
01:49:41.960 --> 01:49:47.119
upstairs, and I'm assuming he's the
one that called the police. Of course,

1367
01:49:47.159 --> 01:49:50.920
you say something, Ryan, if
somebody says to me, I'm gonna

1368
01:49:50.920 --> 01:49:55.279
go get that guy, I would
say something like, you can't do that,

1369
01:49:55.279 --> 01:50:00.880
You're gonna kill somebody. Yeah,
what do you think have happened if

1370
01:50:00.920 --> 01:50:06.239
he did find this guy? I
honestly have no clue. Like I said,

1371
01:50:06.239 --> 01:50:11.000
he had been drinking, so I
don't know what his intentions were at

1372
01:50:11.039 --> 01:50:17.760
all. Now someone said here that
texted me, I applaud the guy.

1373
01:50:17.920 --> 01:50:23.880
He was courageous and he probably prevented
something serious from happening. I don't think

1374
01:50:23.880 --> 01:50:27.800
he prevented anything. I think that
we don't know what he prevented because he

1375
01:50:27.840 --> 01:50:33.279
never found the guy. R The
guy is still intendant here according to management.

1376
01:50:34.760 --> 01:50:41.800
The guy what but the guy that
he was looking for is still apparently

1377
01:50:41.880 --> 01:50:46.439
a tenant on a lease as a
secondary person on the lease here at the

1378
01:50:47.399 --> 01:50:51.840
apartment complex, according to management.
Have you talked to Mark since this happened

1379
01:50:51.920 --> 01:50:59.479
last night? Yes? And what
does Mark say? He says he should

1380
01:50:59.520 --> 01:51:02.079
not have done that, but at
the same time, he knows that he

1381
01:51:02.159 --> 01:51:06.520
put the gun in my hand and
that he shouldn't have done that either,

1382
01:51:08.399 --> 01:51:11.399
and that I gave it right back
to him, and he was going to

1383
01:51:11.439 --> 01:51:15.520
go talk to management and let them
know that I didn't want any part of

1384
01:51:15.560 --> 01:51:21.399
it, and I put the hands
on back. Well, I hope he

1385
01:51:21.479 --> 01:51:25.640
does, and I hope they believe
him, because people say they saw you

1386
01:51:25.720 --> 01:51:33.680
with a gun, and that's pretty
damn bad. I grew up around guns.

1387
01:51:33.840 --> 01:51:39.359
I've shot them most of my life. I know the safety concerns about

1388
01:51:39.399 --> 01:51:43.039
them in this day and age.
I know that you're only supposed to use

1389
01:51:43.079 --> 01:51:47.560
them at a range or in defense. I would never use a gun if

1390
01:51:47.600 --> 01:51:51.800
I were to own one in that
sort of manner, let alone the fact

1391
01:51:53.279 --> 01:51:58.359
of using someone else's gun that I
have not shot before in that manner or

1392
01:51:58.479 --> 01:52:04.680
any manner. Okay, well,
at least you don't have to worry about

1393
01:52:04.720 --> 01:52:09.479
an immediate eviction. I don't know
what you're gonna do to stay there,

1394
01:52:09.560 --> 01:52:15.239
but it doesn't look promising, is
what I'm saying. It's Yes, that's

1395
01:52:15.279 --> 01:52:21.199
better than having innovation on my record. Right. Maybe they would even let

1396
01:52:21.239 --> 01:52:25.239
you out early if you could find
a place you might want to not wait

1397
01:52:25.279 --> 01:52:29.479
till the last minute, you know, yeah, and ask them if they'd

1398
01:52:29.560 --> 01:52:36.279
let you out early. I don't
know three three seven one three eight two

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twenty two. Hi Tom Martino,
you're a troubleshooter. Three O three seven

1407
01:53:21.920 --> 01:53:28.039
one three talks seven one three eight
two five five. Welcome to the show,

1408
01:53:28.439 --> 01:53:31.079
and let's talk Randy. What's going
on with you? Hello Randy,

1409
01:53:32.720 --> 01:53:39.279
Hi Tom, longtime listener. Thank
you man. What's happening? I'm a

1410
01:53:39.359 --> 01:53:45.800
full time Uber driver. I've been
driving for Uber for almost eight and a

1411
01:53:45.840 --> 01:53:50.000
half years. I've never had any
complaints. I have a four point nine

1412
01:53:50.039 --> 01:53:58.159
to nine rating and I received a
week ago Monday. I tried to sign

1413
01:53:58.239 --> 01:54:02.199
in this my account so I could
start driving, and my account was frozen

1414
01:54:03.119 --> 01:54:11.640
and why I received a text message
from Uber saying that in a recent review

1415
01:54:11.680 --> 01:54:15.840
of your account, your account was
identified as a duplicate of an account that

1416
01:54:15.960 --> 01:54:21.960
was previously deactivated. And then they
say that my account is tied in with

1417
01:54:23.079 --> 01:54:27.119
another email address which does not belong
to me. It's not my email address.

1418
01:54:27.399 --> 01:54:30.079
I've never had a duplicate account.
I've never had a problem, but

1419
01:54:31.119 --> 01:54:35.880
I've been Okay, so hold on, So right now, you're the short

1420
01:54:35.920 --> 01:54:43.000
story is you're deactivated from driving.
And the reason they're giving you is it's

1421
01:54:43.560 --> 01:54:48.760
why that it was a duplicate,
says right, your recent review my account,

1422
01:54:48.760 --> 01:54:54.880
your account was identified as a duplicate
of an account that was previously deactivated.

1423
01:54:55.119 --> 01:55:00.680
Okay, And the previous account that
was deactivated was not yours. No,

1424
01:55:00.239 --> 01:55:03.520
no, But they didn't give me, you know, another email address

1425
01:55:03.640 --> 01:55:09.119
that they said was associated with the
account that was deactivated. Okay, is

1426
01:55:09.159 --> 01:55:12.760
it a similar name? Do you
have a common name? No, it's

1427
01:55:12.800 --> 01:55:18.920
totally different. It's not even close. It's it's not even close to my

1428
01:55:19.479 --> 01:55:27.199
email address. They had me go
to I had to submit a picture of

1429
01:55:27.199 --> 01:55:30.039
my driver's license, a picture of
my driver's license next to my face so

1430
01:55:30.079 --> 01:55:34.680
they could identify me. And then
I had to file a police report,

1431
01:55:34.920 --> 01:55:41.800
you know, within my local municipality. And I'd submitted all that and I

1432
01:55:41.840 --> 01:55:47.720
am still deactivated. And did you
ask them if and there's no way they

1433
01:55:47.720 --> 01:55:51.640
will open up an account for you. No, No, no, they

1434
01:55:51.680 --> 01:55:56.159
won't. Do they think Do they
think you were scamming them or something?

1435
01:55:56.239 --> 01:56:03.319
Or what? It says here that
it says according to community guidelines, fraudulent

1436
01:56:03.439 --> 01:56:09.880
activities such as creating duple of accounts
is not allowed because your account appears to

1437
01:56:09.880 --> 01:56:14.680
be associated with account that was previously
deactivated. Your account hasn't been deactivated.

1438
01:56:15.760 --> 01:56:21.279
Oh my goodness, gracious, this
is weird and you have no idea.

1439
01:56:21.880 --> 01:56:27.720
You don't recognize that emailed your dress
at all. No, it's some guy

1440
01:56:27.840 --> 01:56:33.279
named the email addresses Giovanni. No, I don't like it's not it's I've

1441
01:56:33.319 --> 01:56:43.399
never seen that, did you?
No? I haven't I believe that Giovanni.

1442
01:56:43.560 --> 01:56:48.239
It's Geovanni T I G A S
A I twenty nine at gmail dot

1443
01:56:48.279 --> 01:57:00.600
com is possibly the email address of
the person that does duplicated my account and

1444
01:57:00.680 --> 01:57:04.960
he caused all this havoc for you. Yeah, So when you call Uber

1445
01:57:05.680 --> 01:57:09.520
and you say my account. Now, now, by the way, this

1446
01:57:09.600 --> 01:57:14.560
happened all of a sudden, your
account just was deactivated, right, yeah,

1447
01:57:14.960 --> 01:57:17.319
yeah, all of a sudden you
couldn't sign on and go to work.

1448
01:57:17.399 --> 01:57:23.119
Is that correct? It was instantaneous, yes, And when you called

1449
01:57:23.119 --> 01:57:27.720
to find out why, they said
it was a duplicate account, right,

1450
01:57:28.840 --> 01:57:36.239
And they said it was associated with
fraudulent activity. Correct. Man, I

1451
01:57:36.279 --> 01:57:40.359
don't know what to tell you.
Have you tried doing a lift account?

1452
01:57:41.119 --> 01:57:44.479
I already born a lift but I
do it both. I've been doing this

1453
01:57:44.520 --> 01:57:46.359
for nine years old, Okay,
But what I'm saying is you can still

1454
01:57:46.359 --> 01:57:50.760
do lift. Oh yeah, I
can lift, no problem, and you

1455
01:57:50.880 --> 01:57:57.840
do it. Yeah. I mean, but compared to Uber, Lift would

1456
01:57:57.840 --> 01:58:01.359
be at the most maybe twenty percent
of my income, where Uber would make

1457
01:58:01.439 --> 01:58:05.239
up eighty percent of my income,
just because there's so much more. There

1458
01:58:05.239 --> 01:58:12.359
are so many more rides of being
requested on Uber than there are lyfts,

1459
01:58:12.399 --> 01:58:17.600
So it's a big hit. And
you know, I'm not really sure.

1460
01:58:19.000 --> 01:58:23.119
I mean, like I said,
I went to my police department and filed

1461
01:58:23.159 --> 01:58:30.039
a stolen identity report, although the
only thing that was stolen with the by

1462
01:58:30.119 --> 01:58:34.199
account information, I believe, And
I'm not having any problems with my bank

1463
01:58:34.199 --> 01:58:40.319
accounts or checking or credit cards.
I'm not having any frauds of activity on

1464
01:58:40.359 --> 01:58:47.159
any of my accounts other than this
particular violation of my Uber account. And

1465
01:58:47.600 --> 01:58:54.760
I'm not sure what my recourse could
be. God, I mean, unless

1466
01:58:54.800 --> 01:58:57.560
you can find this guy, I
mean, I don't know what your recourse

1467
01:58:57.600 --> 01:59:00.840
can be either. This is the
problem, by the way, with everything,

1468
01:59:01.119 --> 01:59:04.840
Okay, this is the new kind
of way to get rid of people.

1469
01:59:04.880 --> 01:59:10.119
I'm not saying they're doing this intentionally, but banks, for example,

1470
01:59:10.239 --> 01:59:13.319
when they want to debank someone,
when they want to get rid of a

1471
01:59:13.359 --> 01:59:17.079
customer. And by the way,
banks do this for political reasons, Okay,

1472
01:59:17.119 --> 01:59:20.920
they don't like certain people. Like
there's this one guy that had a

1473
01:59:20.960 --> 01:59:27.760
website that a lot of people don't
like, and on his website he sells

1474
01:59:27.840 --> 01:59:32.039
items and he has a credit card
processing and all of that. The bank

1475
01:59:32.920 --> 01:59:36.560
debanked him. In other words,
there was nothing they could do to censor

1476
01:59:36.680 --> 01:59:42.600
him or to say we don't like
you. But what they did instead was

1477
01:59:42.640 --> 01:59:49.920
simply took away his bank accounts and
said we notice unusual activity or fraudulent activity.

1478
01:59:50.359 --> 01:59:56.640
That was their excuse for closing his
accounts, and they closed the accounts

1479
01:59:56.680 --> 02:00:02.640
of all his employees so they couldn't
do it. Their excuse was fraudulent activity.

1480
02:00:02.840 --> 02:00:06.079
Now I'm not saying they're trying to
get rid of you. But what

1481
02:00:06.119 --> 02:00:12.640
I'm saying is when a company just
says that, there's almost nothing you can

1482
02:00:12.680 --> 02:00:16.159
do about it, because they simply
say, we no longer want you.

1483
02:00:16.640 --> 02:00:21.199
That's what they say, we no
longer want you. But for some reason,

1484
02:00:23.079 --> 02:00:26.920
it could be legit that yours is
a duplet account. They do that

1485
02:00:27.119 --> 02:00:31.000
on eBay, they do it with
banks, they do it with social media.

1486
02:00:31.800 --> 02:00:36.560
They can just say you violate okay. For example, YouTube is famous

1487
02:00:38.600 --> 02:00:42.119
for saying you violated community standards.
They don't tell you what you did.

1488
02:00:42.159 --> 02:00:45.800
They say, read this article,
okay, Facebook does that? What does

1489
02:00:45.840 --> 02:00:51.319
it mean? They don't say on
this date you did this thing. They

1490
02:00:51.359 --> 02:00:56.680
don't say that. They just say
you violated community standards. So how do

1491
02:00:56.760 --> 02:01:00.920
you fight that? How do you
fight the idea? Did you ask them

1492
02:01:00.600 --> 02:01:05.119
how you con vindicate yourself? And
you did what they asked? The picture

1493
02:01:05.159 --> 02:01:09.039
of your driver's license, a police
report, and all of that. Is

1494
02:01:09.079 --> 02:01:15.640
that correct? Yes? How long
ago did you do all that? The

1495
02:01:15.640 --> 02:01:18.640
same day that I got get well. How long ago was that? That

1496
02:01:18.760 --> 02:01:23.319
was over a week ago. I
think you're not giving it enough time.

1497
02:01:24.119 --> 02:01:28.439
Do you have a contact at Uber? Yeah, I've got a contact and

1498
02:01:29.119 --> 02:01:31.640
I'm dealing with them. See that's
what I would do, Randy. Here's

1499
02:01:31.680 --> 02:01:34.520
what I'm saying. Let's give it
at least another week. I mean,

1500
02:01:34.600 --> 02:01:39.800
really, it could take three or
four weeks to investigate this if they truly

1501
02:01:39.880 --> 02:01:43.680
are investigating it, and then they
probably want to see how much you're going

1502
02:01:43.720 --> 02:01:47.000
to call back and follow up because
a real fraud won't do that and just

1503
02:01:47.079 --> 02:01:50.520
be civil about it and let us
know what happens. Because I don't know

1504
02:01:50.560 --> 02:01:55.359
what else to do other than to
go through the motions. It's a terrible

1505
02:01:55.399 --> 02:02:00.359
situation, and for anyone that has
gone through this with today's world, they

1506
02:02:00.399 --> 02:02:08.239
make an accusation and then you are
deemed guilty until they find that you're not,

1507
02:02:09.039 --> 02:02:14.079
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two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi
Tom Martino, your troubleshooter three O three

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seven one three talk three oh three
seven one three eight two five five Diana,

1532
02:04:15.880 --> 02:04:24.199
what's going on with you? Hello
Diana? Diana, Hi, what's

1533
02:04:24.239 --> 02:04:33.479
happening? Well? I have a
contract with Choice Home Warranty and I heard

1534
02:04:34.439 --> 02:04:40.960
the lady that had the problem a
few days ago, and I have not

1535
02:04:41.279 --> 02:04:50.359
had my refrigerator in service since January
the nineteenth. And they home warranties home

1536
02:04:50.399 --> 02:04:56.439
warranty suck. I don't you know. I just I don't know why people.

1537
02:04:57.159 --> 02:05:02.319
I don't know why people have home
warranties they don't work. I know,

1538
02:05:02.520 --> 02:05:11.239
Now, what reason are they giving
you for not fixing your refrigerator?

1539
02:05:12.039 --> 02:05:19.680
Well, they I called after on
the nineteenth of January and they said they

1540
02:05:19.720 --> 02:05:30.319
would send someone out on the twenty
sixth of January, and so my daughter

1541
02:05:30.600 --> 02:05:36.079
is trying to help me with certain
administrative things, and she called them and

1542
02:05:36.159 --> 02:05:42.000
said, this is her refrigerator.
Can't you come out sooner? And so

1543
02:05:42.119 --> 02:05:45.800
they said they would. This was
Sears, of course, and they would

1544
02:05:45.880 --> 02:05:51.079
send Sears Home Service out and they
said they would send someone on the twenty

1545
02:05:51.279 --> 02:05:57.079
third, so I happened unfortunately,
So hold on, it's not that though.

1546
02:05:57.560 --> 02:06:00.560
Let me get this straight. Choice
Home Warranty is not refusing to fix

1547
02:06:00.600 --> 02:06:04.840
it. They just haven't even looked
at it. No, they did.

1548
02:06:05.000 --> 02:06:11.159
They they stood us up on the
twenty third, but they came out to

1549
02:06:11.239 --> 02:06:16.039
twenty sixth. They and what did
they say? What's the bottom line?

1550
02:06:16.239 --> 02:06:20.920
Ordered a part. They ordered a
part for the refrigerator, but I mean

1551
02:06:21.000 --> 02:06:26.680
for the freezer. But it was
the refrigerator that was not cooling. And

1552
02:06:26.760 --> 02:06:31.880
so I have been in and out
with them ever since for over a month.

1553
02:06:32.000 --> 02:06:38.439
So they're just not fixing it.
They're just totally incompetent. They're making

1554
02:06:38.479 --> 02:06:43.840
it difficult. They will not communicate
with me, seriously, will not.

1555
02:06:44.000 --> 02:06:49.880
It's all robot things and they will
not talk to you. And the problem

1556
02:06:50.079 --> 02:06:56.159
with Choice Home Warranty is I spoke
to a woman when I asked to speak

1557
02:06:56.319 --> 02:07:01.239
to a supervisor, and she said
that she really I wanted to cancel my

1558
02:07:01.359 --> 02:07:05.479
contract. And by the way,
how much are you paying for? How

1559
02:07:05.560 --> 02:07:11.439
much are you paying for this?
It was the original in two thousand and

1560
02:07:12.079 --> 02:07:18.720
twenty three was fourteen hundred dollars for
four or five years, And so she

1561
02:07:18.920 --> 02:07:24.600
said that, no, you don't
have nine hundred and ninety dollars coming,

1562
02:07:24.720 --> 02:07:30.560
you have seventy five dollars coming.
Because they tell you they're going to pay

1563
02:07:30.600 --> 02:07:36.520
for parts and service labor, but
they actually are just giving you a discount

1564
02:07:38.239 --> 02:07:42.640
on the parts of labor. Because
she said my money had been all used

1565
02:07:42.720 --> 02:07:48.520
up on previous repairs except for seventy
five dollars. So basically, you don't

1566
02:07:48.560 --> 02:07:54.119
have coverage anymore? Did you already? But you don't pay monthly? Right

1567
02:07:54.159 --> 02:07:58.399
now? Do You're not going to
renew this thing? Right? No?

1568
02:07:58.640 --> 02:08:03.560
I have already paid unfortunately upfront.
And they're telling me, well, how

1569
02:08:03.600 --> 02:08:07.039
many years ago, how many years
ago did you how many years ago did

1570
02:08:07.039 --> 02:08:15.319
you buy it? Two twenty three? Oh, so it's Brandbuary of twenty

1571
02:08:15.560 --> 02:08:24.920
twenty three, and they're telling me
that they don't they used the money that

1572
02:08:24.000 --> 02:08:30.520
I paid in for the parts of
labor on minor repairs that I've had done

1573
02:08:30.560 --> 02:08:35.840
so far. And when she said, I know some people there upstairs,

1574
02:08:35.960 --> 02:08:39.880
I will try to get that.
So wait, what are they saying,

1575
02:08:39.920 --> 02:08:41.319
Diana, what do you mean you
used up the money you paid in?

1576
02:08:41.640 --> 02:08:46.279
The whole idea of a warranty is
they keep fixing it anyway? Are they

1577
02:08:46.319 --> 02:08:50.399
saying once you run out of that
initial premium, they don't come back.

1578
02:08:52.319 --> 02:08:56.840
Now, what they're saying is if
I cancel, I don't have any money

1579
02:08:56.840 --> 02:09:00.600
coming back. Oh, he didn't
want me to cancel, and I just

1580
02:09:00.680 --> 02:09:03.920
wanted to be rid of them because
they are such a sleepy operations. Well,

1581
02:09:03.960 --> 02:09:07.399
of course they are. They're totally
sleeved phone number. She gave me

1582
02:09:07.479 --> 02:09:11.680
her phone number, and when I
tried to call her back, it said

1583
02:09:11.680 --> 02:09:18.279
this extension has been deactivated for voicemail. And I never heard back from her.

1584
02:09:18.399 --> 02:09:24.279
So I called them again and they
set an appointment for March the fifth,

1585
02:09:24.279 --> 02:09:28.960
and so I am, that's the
point, Diana. I'm going to

1586
02:09:28.960 --> 02:09:33.000
tell you something. Okay, we
have very little luck with home warranty companies

1587
02:09:33.079 --> 02:09:41.479
because they suck so much. They
just suck. Wondering I heard that your

1588
02:09:41.880 --> 02:09:50.760
your associate was to have a three
way conversation with the customer, and right

1589
02:09:50.239 --> 02:09:58.279
right, we have done that in
the past. I don't know who handled

1590
02:09:58.279 --> 02:10:01.560
it the last one, but I
I will tell you. Was it Chopper?

1591
02:10:01.760 --> 02:10:05.159
Yes? And he got them to
fix it, didn't he? No?

1592
02:10:05.159 --> 02:10:09.239
No, no, they made a
settlement they did. You know what,

1593
02:10:09.319 --> 02:10:13.800
maybe we should give this to Chopper
again and see if she can just

1594
02:10:13.880 --> 02:10:20.079
work out a refund or something.
People listening to me, please appreciate that,

1595
02:10:20.199 --> 02:10:22.720
because, Okay, I'm gonna give
it to I'm gonna give it to

1596
02:10:22.800 --> 02:10:28.239
Chopper. Okay, we'll give it
to our deputy. Hold on a second.

1597
02:10:28.319 --> 02:10:31.640
I just want to make this clear. Do not buy a home warranty

1598
02:10:31.880 --> 02:10:35.920
period. Okay for the little help
you'll get here and there, it's never

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02:10:35.960 --> 02:10:39.760
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Hi Tom Martino here three three seven
to one three talk a cell roofing with

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02:11:22.760 --> 02:11:26.840
us in the house. And we
went over the uh, the bidding thing.

1608
02:11:26.960 --> 02:11:31.479
Okay, so I put in my
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wonderful. You don't you don't have
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1610
02:11:35.520 --> 02:11:39.279
with your pricing. That's right,
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1611
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prices? They're within about five percent? What does that mean? When would

1612
02:11:43.880 --> 02:11:48.199
it be wrong? Just for some
reason? Sometimes the price isn't exactly dead

1613
02:11:48.279 --> 02:11:54.279
on because this aerial view that we're
using here, it's a Google satellite view,

1614
02:11:54.760 --> 02:11:56.479
and sometimes, like for your house
that you're looking at right now,

1615
02:11:56.520 --> 02:12:00.600
Tom, it has a lot of
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areas and that's all I know.
I know. But that's going to use

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more roofing material, which in turn
would cause the roof to be more expensive

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than what the prices that you're seeing
right there. So I want you to

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try it. Go to excelroofing dot
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your roof. It's kind of cool
and by the way, cool and don't

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forget, of course, referrals dot
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And you can always call three oh
three Martino, leave a message and we'll

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get back to you for help.
And you can call that twenty four seven

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four sixty six. And remember save all

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your problems for me.

