WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:29.719 They' re friends who are so hi what? Tal? What taste? 2 00:00:29.960 --> 00:00:32.880 Welcome, I' m Luis Miguel Salgado. This is a good question. 3 00:00:33.679 --> 00:00:36.880 Thank you for joining us in this new chapter. The truth. I am 4 00:00:36.920 --> 00:00:43.960 very happy because Veronica Rosenberg is with me today. She' s an exceptional 5 00:00:43.960 --> 00:00:49.359 writer, super dedicated to her work, passionate about what she does. He 6 00:00:49.560 --> 00:00:53.280 does a lot of things, Ahorita, I' m going to explain to 7 00:00:53.840 --> 00:00:55.039 you, but more than anything, he' s an excellent human being. 8 00:00:55.399 --> 00:01:00.079 It is a blessing to have Veronica on this planet right now, because with 9 00:01:00.159 --> 00:01:07.280 her life she positively impacts whoever knows her, who likes to be her friend 10 00:01:07.319 --> 00:01:10.400 like me, her friend like me, and, of course, who she 11 00:01:10.519 --> 00:01:17.200 encounters. Because it positively impacts me to see is a privilege pleasure. How 12 00:01:17.239 --> 00:01:21.519 are you welcome? How about luis good, he' s finally gonna realize 13 00:01:21.560 --> 00:01:23.319 it. So yes. Today we are going to chat and we are going 14 00:01:23.359 --> 00:01:27.359 to talk to him about many topics. That' s welcome, welcome. 15 00:01:27.680 --> 00:01:34.400 Let me introduce Veronica Rosenberg to you as she deserves. She is the author 16 00:01:34.439 --> 00:01:38.879 of the trilogy The Psychology of Success, composed of three wonderful books. The 17 00:01:38.959 --> 00:01:45.640 psychology of success, the psychology of money and the secrets of mind that truth. 18 00:01:46.079 --> 00:01:53.599 We all need to understand how to succeed, we need the money and 19 00:01:53.760 --> 00:01:55.959 we need to know how we think and why we think what we think. 20 00:01:56.359 --> 00:02:01.040 So I recommend you read the three Rosenberg Onic beda books. She' s 21 00:02:01.079 --> 00:02:07.760 a digital entrepreneur. She is a graduate in psychology, with experience in private 22 00:02:07.799 --> 00:02:13.840 public institutions and private consulting, working with many current social problems. She is 23 00:02:14.039 --> 00:02:19.800 an expert psychologist of the judicial power of the Argentine Nation, ex officio with 24 00:02:19.879 --> 00:02:23.800 more than five years of experience and with intervention in civil law and professional work 25 00:02:23.879 --> 00:02:30.840 law, with more than twenty years in the National Bank of Argentina and especially 26 00:02:31.479 --> 00:02:37.879 more than ten years of experience in marketing management, developing campaigns and organizing events 27 00:02:37.960 --> 00:02:46.639 with a strong impact through communication through multiple channels. This is Veronica Rosenberg. 28 00:02:46.800 --> 00:02:51.759 He' s here with us when he asks and if it' s up 29 00:02:51.759 --> 00:02:53.639 to each and every one of you, as I always tell you, if 30 00:02:54.280 --> 00:03:20.759 it' s okay with you, we start Veronica, what a pleasure he 31 00:03:20.759 --> 00:03:21.759 hears beyond and I want to ask you. This question is asked to all 32 00:03:21.840 --> 00:03:25.719 my guests as an initial question. I' d love you to tell us 33 00:03:25.719 --> 00:03:30.360 beyond what you' ve studied, where you work on your books, beyond 34 00:03:30.360 --> 00:03:38.319 all that. Please tell us, who is Veronica rosenbre or good looks in 35 00:03:38.400 --> 00:03:44.960 carts at Merce an Argentine woman, mother, worker, entrepreneur. In the 36 00:03:45.080 --> 00:03:49.439 search there are always new knowledge, new learnings, new people, new situations 37 00:03:49.520 --> 00:04:00.919 devoted mainly to this, to the way to help people. I think that 38 00:04:00.960 --> 00:04:03.800 this whole journey, which started with the books, which started in the middle 39 00:04:03.800 --> 00:04:09.719 of the pandemic, before a situation that kept us a little in the running, 40 00:04:10.319 --> 00:04:16.959 a little away from our affections well, looking for the way out, 41 00:04:17.319 --> 00:04:20.680 trying to think how we would get out of that situation in what conditions, 42 00:04:20.759 --> 00:04:25.360 how we would leave the pandemic, how we would be able to reconnect with 43 00:04:25.439 --> 00:04:30.959 the outside, with our jobs, with our loved ones and how to get 44 00:04:30.959 --> 00:04:35.800 back to hope, how to rethink our projects, how we would rethink as 45 00:04:35.959 --> 00:04:40.680 people after what had happened to us and, of course, that it had 46 00:04:40.680 --> 00:04:43.879 not been without consequences. Then to meet yourself again, to rethink what we 47 00:04:43.920 --> 00:04:47.279 really want to do with our lives, what our ideals are, what we 48 00:04:47.360 --> 00:04:53.399 want, what things we have to look forward to. I hope that this 49 00:04:53.439 --> 00:04:58.279 was a bit of the point we all made when we met and March in 50 00:04:58.319 --> 00:05:01.560 the pandemic. And well, aside from there, this journey of searching within 51 00:05:01.560 --> 00:05:06.079 ourselves with what we want to connect with, what we want to do, 52 00:05:08.680 --> 00:05:11.360 what we enjoy. And well, how we can grow, how we can 53 00:05:11.439 --> 00:05:16.240 contribute, how we can improve, how we can seek and somehow give more 54 00:05:16.240 --> 00:05:23.480 than we are, not go and go after our best Vertion and the ideal 55 00:05:23.600 --> 00:05:28.720 person we have inside to be able to contribute, to be able to give 56 00:05:28.839 --> 00:05:31.680 more than we are. Tell us veronica, please, why psychology, why 57 00:05:32.240 --> 00:05:38.959 not be an accountant, veterinary lawyer, I don' t know singer actress, 58 00:05:39.560 --> 00:05:43.279 tell us why psychology and then talk to us. How the idea of 59 00:05:43.319 --> 00:05:46.600 books arises because I' m going to write. I think everyone out there 60 00:05:46.759 --> 00:05:51.199 said Alberto Cortes. You have to write a book, have a child and 61 00:05:51.199 --> 00:05:57.680 plant a tree. The hard part is watering the tree, educating the child 62 00:05:57.759 --> 00:06:00.360 and selling the book. Let' s not talk, please, first why 63 00:06:00.399 --> 00:06:03.600 psychology and after your books. Well, actually, first is the accountant' 64 00:06:03.600 --> 00:06:09.240 s career. So first it was for economics, to walk through this world 65 00:06:09.319 --> 00:06:13.720 of numbers, to look for how it was applied in real life, this 66 00:06:13.800 --> 00:06:17.199 double game, this account that always seems to have to close. And well, 67 00:06:17.319 --> 00:06:21.000 when I came out of real life, then I tried to apply everything 68 00:06:21.000 --> 00:06:26.079 I had learned in economics, looking for how to balance all this, I 69 00:06:26.160 --> 00:06:30.639 realized that life sometimes happens to us things where the accounts don' t end 70 00:06:30.639 --> 00:06:34.560 up, where the issues aren' t so accurate, so perfect, and 71 00:06:34.560 --> 00:06:40.079 so square. And there I went out to look for a career as a 72 00:06:40.120 --> 00:06:42.920 psychology that would give me a little, the other vision, the other look. 73 00:06:43.000 --> 00:06:46.519 What happens when we leave the papers or the computer, where everyone closes 74 00:06:46.639 --> 00:06:50.120 and we find real life, with human beings, with our imperfections, with 75 00:06:50.199 --> 00:06:55.680 our faults, with the things that are not happening, with the different positions 76 00:06:55.759 --> 00:07:00.360 that we are adopting, with the changes that are good, that they agree. 77 00:07:00.160 --> 00:07:03.879 And there I said good psychology that what is this is human relationships, 78 00:07:04.079 --> 00:07:09.199 what happens to emotions, what happens to us inside, why today it seems 79 00:07:09.240 --> 00:07:12.879 that we had the same problems that our grandparents had, not in some sense 80 00:07:12.879 --> 00:07:16.040 beyond technology and all the advances, many times we feel alone, we feel 81 00:07:16.120 --> 00:07:21.879 disappointed. We feel like we' re not doing things right, or that 82 00:07:21.959 --> 00:07:27.040 we have a factory failure that we can' t solve. We are faced 83 00:07:27.079 --> 00:07:30.160 with questions that or with reactions of their own that leave us. How I 84 00:07:30.240 --> 00:07:35.199 told you this, how I did this, how I solved it this way, 85 00:07:35.680 --> 00:07:39.199 how I could have done such a thing. Well, all these issues 86 00:07:39.199 --> 00:07:44.199 that are appearing in life and closing us down are not as square as the 87 00:07:44.240 --> 00:07:48.399 numbers were. Let' s say a little bit about the things that were 88 00:07:48.439 --> 00:07:54.279 taking me on this new journey, which was psychology. And well, going 89 00:07:54.319 --> 00:07:58.480 on at forty and so I in the book trying to put them together back, 90 00:07:58.839 --> 00:08:01.600 not as Hip Shop said I said well, there was a method that 91 00:08:03.600 --> 00:08:07.920 had to do with the psychology of each person with free will, but that, 92 00:08:07.000 --> 00:08:11.360 at the same time somehow helped people that was a method, a few 93 00:08:11.360 --> 00:08:16.759 steps, a path that anyone could make that lead to achieving dreams. What 94 00:08:16.879 --> 00:08:22.519 would happen? What if we put together the emotions and put together the double 95 00:08:22.360 --> 00:08:26.839 game, what could come out of all this, what if there was a 96 00:08:26.920 --> 00:08:31.360 method to succeed that could be taught. What would happen if I started reading 97 00:08:31.679 --> 00:08:37.480 about the lives of people who have accomplished incredible things and finding what points they 98 00:08:37.559 --> 00:08:41.399 had in common and how they can be systematized in some way or written in 99 00:08:41.440 --> 00:08:48.279 a book that allows everyone, from their own authenticity, to achieve what they 100 00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:54.840 want. And, well, it was a long journey that, as I 101 00:08:54.559 --> 00:08:58.759 was telling you, was taking color in a pandemic. In the pandemic I 102 00:08:58.799 --> 00:09:01.480 would get up and write, write written, write all day. I said 103 00:09:01.480 --> 00:09:05.200 well, I turn off the TV I stop looking at all the bad things 104 00:09:05.200 --> 00:09:09.720 that are happening and I start to think that how I can take advantage of 105 00:09:09.720 --> 00:09:09.799 the time and what I can give to others that can later come out. 106 00:09:11.120 --> 00:09:16.159 And in that sense psychology was emerging success. And then there were things left 107 00:09:16.240 --> 00:09:16.960 for me to say and I said well, let' s talk about money. 108 00:09:18.039 --> 00:09:20.919 We' re here and we came a little bit of success. Sometimes 109 00:09:20.960 --> 00:09:24.600 people get it a little bit on the money side. I said well, 110 00:09:24.720 --> 00:09:28.000 and now let' s talk about money and talk about what' s going 111 00:09:28.000 --> 00:09:33.519 on in people' s heads, why don' t these things come up 112 00:09:33.600 --> 00:09:35.919 that we can' t understand or why there are people that are doing very 113 00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:39.960 well and they' re next to someone that' s doing very badly, 114 00:09:39.960 --> 00:09:45.120 even maybe having the same education, the same resources, even seeing that they 115 00:09:45.159 --> 00:09:46.120 ' ve been armed, not having been the fruit of the same family and 116 00:09:46.120 --> 00:09:48.559 why these differences and where they come from. And well, that' s 117 00:09:48.600 --> 00:09:52.480 where the secrets of the mind came a little bit to see what' s 118 00:09:52.600 --> 00:09:56.679 invisible that ends up defining these fruits that we see on the outside and that 119 00:09:56.679 --> 00:10:01.840 sometimes we can' t explain, or we can' t explain by the 120 00:10:01.919 --> 00:10:01.559 methods that we' re being taught to ourselves. No, no, no, 121 00:10:03.000 --> 00:10:05.440 everything has to do with the education we receive, with the books we 122 00:10:05.559 --> 00:10:11.840 read, with our origins, or well, it seems that there are other 123 00:10:11.879 --> 00:10:16.399 factors that intervene, that have much more to do with the human and that 124 00:10:16.519 --> 00:10:18.879 were perhaps not so exposed, but that can be sought or searched, can 125 00:10:18.960 --> 00:10:24.200 be located, can be written, can be developed, can be rethought. 126 00:10:24.279 --> 00:10:28.879 And well, always thinking that each person is going to go, read and 127 00:10:28.960 --> 00:10:31.399 have a different violence and they' re going to want to find something different 128 00:10:33.159 --> 00:10:39.519 and well, what could help. Show tell me, please, something that 129 00:10:39.879 --> 00:10:43.279 comes to me from all this. Why men and women, why human beings 130 00:10:45.000 --> 00:10:50.000 constantly have the same problems. Why we have the same problems. Why do 131 00:10:50.080 --> 00:10:54.399 we all think about money in a different way, as a problem. Why 132 00:10:54.480 --> 00:11:01.639 do we think success is having cars, having a mansion, traveling around the 133 00:11:03.519 --> 00:11:09.440 world? Why do we have these preconceived ideas that are so far from reality. 134 00:11:09.720 --> 00:11:16.840 They are so far away from what truly success means, what can truly 135 00:11:18.679 --> 00:11:26.320 be interpreted as having money or not having money. How it just means in 136 00:11:26.399 --> 00:11:31.039 this psychology of the mind not, why we have such complex, veronic processes, 137 00:11:31.279 --> 00:11:35.440 why it doesn' t cost us so much to get out of this 138 00:11:35.480 --> 00:11:39.440 cage that, even though the door is open, we don' t want 139 00:11:39.440 --> 00:11:43.600 to get out. But look when you have to write. I said good 140 00:11:43.639 --> 00:11:46.360 first of all I' m going to have to define what' s success. 141 00:11:46.440 --> 00:11:48.879 No, because everyone has their own garc. And well, how to 142 00:11:48.919 --> 00:11:54.080 try to unify the criterion a little bit minimally so that it would go up 143 00:11:54.159 --> 00:11:56.440 to where the book was oriented. And well, yes, at first I 144 00:11:56.440 --> 00:12:03.279 found that people usually define success wealth money, as you said, the best 145 00:12:03.279 --> 00:12:11.080 self, the best. Good and good looking a little. There are many, 146 00:12:11.399 --> 00:12:13.480 many definitions, of course, but I said good. I' m 147 00:12:13.480 --> 00:12:16.559 going to have to adapt one that' s the one that runs the line 148 00:12:16.559 --> 00:12:18.240 or the path of the book. And I think the one that shut me 149 00:12:18.279 --> 00:12:24.919 down the most is that success actually has to do with knowing who to grow, 150 00:12:24.159 --> 00:12:28.799 do, and have in life. I say that each one is like 151 00:12:28.799 --> 00:12:33.120 coming to occupy a place in the puzzle and in that place one develops, 152 00:12:33.879 --> 00:12:37.320 grows, contributes, flows, and that' s where one succeeds. On 153 00:12:37.360 --> 00:12:41.720 this path, where one is adopting a version that is better than finding, 154 00:12:43.000 --> 00:12:46.279 one always competes against the person who was yesterday. And on this path of 155 00:12:46.360 --> 00:12:52.399 going beyond, of growing and adopting tools, of getting closer to this ideal 156 00:12:52.600 --> 00:12:56.799 version that we want for ourselves, for the person that we want to be 157 00:12:56.840 --> 00:13:01.159 tomorrow. It seems to me that success ends up being that or at least 158 00:13:01.279 --> 00:13:05.240 this is the position that I adopted and I do believe that the successful version 159 00:13:05.279 --> 00:13:09.200 that we all bought in principle was the one that sold us television. Not 160 00:13:09.519 --> 00:13:13.559 when he tells you that well, that this is the best austo and that 161 00:13:13.559 --> 00:13:16.399 well, I don' t know you' re going to do everything to 162 00:13:16.840 --> 00:13:20.080 have that car and maybe that car you can expect it, but I don 163 00:13:20.080 --> 00:13:24.320 ' t know if success goes by or, at least, if you' 164 00:13:24.440 --> 00:13:28.120 re not going to feel happy when you have it or how long that happiness 165 00:13:28.200 --> 00:13:31.759 will last, because sometimes it seems to me that success is confused with happiness, 166 00:13:31.159 --> 00:13:35.399 and happiness has to do with being able to achieve it, to be 167 00:13:35.399 --> 00:13:37.799 able to enjoy what you achieved? This doesn' t always happen. So 168 00:13:37.360 --> 00:13:43.799 I think success is this path where you' re making progress and adopting your 169 00:13:43.840 --> 00:13:46.559 best version and happiness seems to me to have to do with this ability to 170 00:13:46.639 --> 00:13:50.240 enjoy what you' ve achieved. And, well, maybe for some person 171 00:13:50.279 --> 00:13:58.600 material is ambiene, but it seems to me that it doesn' t contribute 172 00:13:58.600 --> 00:14:01.600 to that feeling of being realized, that feeling of you know that you' 173 00:14:01.639 --> 00:14:05.759 re occupying your truth to see the place in life of what you' re 174 00:14:05.000 --> 00:14:07.720 doing that for what it looks like you were specially designed or dressed. When 175 00:14:07.759 --> 00:14:11.279 you feel in that place and realize that it is growing, that it is 176 00:14:11.360 --> 00:14:18.399 developing, it seems to me that this feeling is absolutely incomparable and has nothing 177 00:14:18.440 --> 00:14:20.639 to do with a material good, but it has to do with what we 178 00:14:20.639 --> 00:14:26.080 are as human beings and what we came to pass in some way into this 179 00:14:26.080 --> 00:14:30.600 life. I think it' s much deeper Hey, and it' s 180 00:14:30.840 --> 00:14:35.720 also very deep in what you work, because I think you' ve got 181 00:14:35.080 --> 00:14:37.480 They say you can' t have the best of two worlds. It' 182 00:14:37.519 --> 00:14:41.960 s what they say, you can' t have the best of the two 183 00:14:41.960 --> 00:14:46.120 worlds Sorry, but Veronica Rosenblat does have the best of the two worlds. 184 00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:50.279 Why. Because you work in marketing and you work with the human mind, 185 00:14:50.559 --> 00:14:54.240 with the development of the human mind and in psychology and marketing. I think 186 00:14:54.399 --> 00:14:58.919 they have to go hand in hand to understand how to buy, how to 187 00:15:00.159 --> 00:15:05.519 sell, how the mentality of the human being works. By then working better 188 00:15:05.600 --> 00:15:09.320 in marketing and I think that has allowed you to be good at being where 189 00:15:09.320 --> 00:15:13.799 you are, doing what you do and having a lot of success in everything 190 00:15:13.799 --> 00:15:16.840 you do. Tell us, what has been your experience with the topic of 191 00:15:18.240 --> 00:15:22.440 marketing and how you have combined it with this part of psychology and what benefits 192 00:15:22.639 --> 00:15:28.039 you see where I think everyone would need to study psychology to get started, 193 00:15:28.639 --> 00:15:31.600 to understand how we work. Second, I think everyone has to go to 194 00:15:31.679 --> 00:15:33.360 therapy. That' s right, it' s like a basic basket. 195 00:15:33.720 --> 00:15:39.919 Not then how this part works. Please, yes, good. Generally, 196 00:15:39.919 --> 00:15:43.080 when I say I' m a psychologist, they look at me weird, 197 00:15:43.399 --> 00:15:50.080 because people think that psychology is nothing more than doing a chemical therapy, a 198 00:15:50.159 --> 00:15:52.120 couch, and actually, this has a lot to do with consumer psychology. 199 00:15:52.200 --> 00:15:56.080 There' s not a person who has a need, who has a desire 200 00:15:56.080 --> 00:16:00.799 and well, one goes out to avenge a product that technically you' re 201 00:16:00.840 --> 00:16:02.440 going to close or you' re going to tissue that need. And here 202 00:16:02.519 --> 00:16:07.480 are many personal factors. There is not much of the human, because one 203 00:16:07.799 --> 00:16:15.120 thinks that people make decisions in an absolutely rational way and are surprised if they 204 00:16:15.120 --> 00:16:18.320 do not explain that, in reality, people make decisions in the first place, 205 00:16:18.799 --> 00:16:25.320 from a clearly emotional place that we then justify logically. It' s 206 00:16:25.320 --> 00:16:27.679 another matter. But to see when you choose a product that you are going 207 00:16:29.320 --> 00:16:32.639 to consume or something you want to buy, the first decision is actually emotional. 208 00:16:32.720 --> 00:16:34.039 What happens is that sometimes it' s so fleeting and so fast that 209 00:16:34.159 --> 00:16:37.919 you don' t even notice and you think you' re buying, because 210 00:16:38.039 --> 00:16:41.279 it' s logical what you' re acquiring. And well, here come 211 00:16:41.320 --> 00:16:47.679 many psychological factors, many expectations, there are many needs that end up creating 212 00:16:47.720 --> 00:16:49.639 in some way so that the person also consumes. Well, come in and 213 00:16:49.720 --> 00:16:55.879 play a lot of factors, but it' s very funny maybe this discovery 214 00:16:55.960 --> 00:17:00.919 that you think you really get things you need and that it' s absolutely 215 00:17:00.919 --> 00:17:03.240 right that you do. And well, actually there are many other factors that 216 00:17:03.279 --> 00:17:07.359 intervene and there too advertising. And good we can talk about this now, 217 00:17:07.440 --> 00:17:11.960 but one actually decides in the first place, of absolutely emotional journey, so 218 00:17:12.319 --> 00:17:19.519 that clearly enters the psychology of each person. Hey, how interesting we' 219 00:17:19.559 --> 00:17:23.279 re talking to Veronica Rosenberg. I would love, please, that you also 220 00:17:23.319 --> 00:17:30.799 share a little bit of this feeling of helping people, of helping others, 221 00:17:30.920 --> 00:17:37.480 where does it come from? Tell me a little bit if you had any 222 00:17:37.519 --> 00:17:44.119 experience that marked you as a Girl and that in one other way it took 223 00:17:44.559 --> 00:17:49.519 you so that you can, because that' s just not to put at 224 00:17:51.119 --> 00:17:56.640 the service of a community, your knowledge, your experience, etcetera, how 225 00:17:56.640 --> 00:18:00.519 it is that you grew up and why to help your neighbor. Just like 226 00:18:00.559 --> 00:18:03.319 a first memory I have when I' m six. I was six years 227 00:18:03.880 --> 00:18:08.359 old here in Argentina was the Falklands War and of course I was very worried 228 00:18:08.480 --> 00:18:12.039 because I was just six years old and felt that I could do nothing and 229 00:18:12.039 --> 00:18:15.880 there was a war. Then I remember asking where the war was and they 230 00:18:15.880 --> 00:18:19.440 told me that it was far away and for me the furthest thing that existed 231 00:18:19.480 --> 00:18:23.839 at that time was my grandmother' s house, which was barely a few 232 00:18:23.839 --> 00:18:26.400 kilometers, but I imagined it there to go as far as I knew. 233 00:18:26.799 --> 00:18:30.839 So, for me there was the war and I felt that when I was 234 00:18:30.880 --> 00:18:36.440 six I couldn' t do anything and I wasn' t an adult and 235 00:18:36.480 --> 00:18:38.240 I didn' t have enough tools to do anything. I kind of sensed 236 00:18:38.279 --> 00:18:41.720 that I was desperate, because, well, you see, as a girl, 237 00:18:41.039 --> 00:18:45.599 I felt a little big, but not of course, that I didn 238 00:18:45.640 --> 00:18:48.440 ' t have the tools or any decision- making power. And, well, 239 00:18:48.640 --> 00:18:53.359 I think at the time I decided that when I grew up, somehow 240 00:18:53.359 --> 00:18:56.920 I was going to help. That was a mark. It was a mark. 241 00:18:57.799 --> 00:19:02.759 Now talk to me, please, and it' s something of a 242 00:19:02.759 --> 00:19:07.000 person character. I remind you there are no questions of wrong answers, no 243 00:19:07.079 --> 00:19:11.319 good or bad, but tell us. A little more about your childhood. 244 00:19:11.440 --> 00:19:15.960 You remember the first stories as a child, you remember the experiences of the 245 00:19:15.960 --> 00:19:22.079 Platecans. Three interesting questions here. First, what a story I was telling 246 00:19:22.160 --> 00:19:29.279 you when I was a girl, what was the most treasured gift of that 247 00:19:29.400 --> 00:19:33.240 time and what a memory of your childhood you might have playing, maybe studying 248 00:19:33.359 --> 00:19:37.440 some memories you don' t want to share good as a girl, as 249 00:19:37.440 --> 00:19:38.039 there will ever be. I didn' t want to be President of the 250 00:19:38.039 --> 00:19:41.119 nation. I always figured you were going to the president of the nation. 251 00:19:41.240 --> 00:19:45.160 That was a decision made and it made me laugh because they said that all 252 00:19:45.200 --> 00:19:48.440 the guys wanted to be presidents and I said pressure. I' m like 253 00:19:48.519 --> 00:19:53.119 all guys so I really want to be absolutely clear battery president. Also, 254 00:19:53.519 --> 00:19:56.559 well, as I was saying to myself, it was like a single miniature. 255 00:19:56.599 --> 00:20:02.240 Then already decided how family was going, I already knew that came primary 256 00:20:02.240 --> 00:20:04.559 and secondary school. At the age of eighteen I was going to have my 257 00:20:04.640 --> 00:20:10.720 car, my house, it was all settled. As childhood hours, I 258 00:20:10.720 --> 00:20:12.839 can tell you the books. The books accompanied me a lot, because well, 259 00:20:14.400 --> 00:20:18.720 as a girl I liked to read, so I read all the stories 260 00:20:18.720 --> 00:20:23.200 I found. I don' t know how to draw ta heb there were 261 00:20:23.200 --> 00:20:30.440 a couple of children' s magazines at that time that were waiting for them 262 00:20:30.519 --> 00:20:30.880 every week and all the stories I saw out there. I had two brothers, 263 00:20:32.000 --> 00:20:34.079 so they gave it to the oldest or the youngest. He also stole 264 00:20:34.119 --> 00:20:40.519 everything he could, and yes, the books. If I remember anything, 265 00:20:40.960 --> 00:20:44.160 my childhood is books. Then, well, the teacher played. Of course, 266 00:20:44.200 --> 00:20:47.440 I was the one I was going to teach. Then we had thirty 267 00:20:47.440 --> 00:20:49.000 stuffed animals, that is, adding up all my brothers, mine, and 268 00:20:49.039 --> 00:20:52.680 putting us all as if it were an abula and writing it to each one 269 00:20:52.759 --> 00:20:56.720 in the square the conseigna told him the drawing. I don' t know 270 00:20:56.799 --> 00:21:02.319 what, but, well, I could be teaching for hours. So those 271 00:21:03.000 --> 00:21:07.680 are my childhood memories. That' s wonderful. What a veronica we' 272 00:21:07.720 --> 00:21:12.480 re talking about with veronica. Rosenberge very well veronic, because we are talking 273 00:21:12.519 --> 00:21:15.880 about many things. It' s very interesting what you' re telling us. 274 00:21:15.480 --> 00:21:23.119 I would like to ask you in this sense, what is the recurring 275 00:21:23.240 --> 00:21:29.440 feeling in people, what are the problems that you detect regardless of geography regardless 276 00:21:30.279 --> 00:21:36.240 of borders. I think the borders were created by man, but there really 277 00:21:36.279 --> 00:21:41.359 are no borders. There are people living in Argentina who are not Argentines. 278 00:21:41.599 --> 00:21:45.839 They can be Mexicans, Chileans, Russians, Italians, not Spanish. There 279 00:21:47.160 --> 00:21:51.559 are Argentines in Mexico and there is an important point. It doesn' t 280 00:21:51.759 --> 00:21:56.519 matter what nationality you come from. Practically the problems are the same. What 281 00:21:56.640 --> 00:22:02.960 trouble you see and how you think they can be solved. My good servant 282 00:22:03.000 --> 00:22:06.680 the solution. First I' m going to raise the probable ones, which 283 00:22:06.680 --> 00:22:10.480 is easier. Now we think together of solutions. In general, I think 284 00:22:10.599 --> 00:22:15.519 that the problems of the human being are always loneliness, this difficulty to relate, 285 00:22:15.799 --> 00:22:19.400 to empathize, to put themselves in the place of the other, to 286 00:22:21.200 --> 00:22:26.920 understand it, not to be angry or not to hate it, but simply 287 00:22:26.160 --> 00:22:30.799 this power perhaps to sit and talk and try to rethink what is the position 288 00:22:30.880 --> 00:22:33.759 of the other, from what part, what the beliefs are, what is 289 00:22:33.799 --> 00:22:36.319 his map of the reference and why he is telling me what he is telling 290 00:22:36.319 --> 00:22:41.440 me. Whenever I talk about beliefs, I try to dislodge people who see 291 00:22:41.480 --> 00:22:47.200 the issues of life from a completely different place. Then, even in the 292 00:22:47.240 --> 00:22:49.559 face of the same events, one may stand beside the couple, the father, 293 00:22:49.799 --> 00:22:53.119 the mother of the brother, and the other saw a completely different situation. 294 00:22:53.160 --> 00:22:57.680 So sometimes reaching common points and being able to empathize with each other is 295 00:22:57.759 --> 00:23:03.440 quite difficult. So like the mass problems, I think they are stos and 296 00:23:03.599 --> 00:23:08.519 more than anything there is this feeling is loneliness, this difficulty to relate, 297 00:23:08.720 --> 00:23:14.519 this difficulty to empathize. And, well, from there, I think there 298 00:23:14.519 --> 00:23:18.400 ' s a little bit of the rest of the problems, the separations, 299 00:23:18.599 --> 00:23:22.279 the divorces, the related difficulties, the problems with the children, the problems 300 00:23:22.319 --> 00:23:26.039 with the parents, which may be advanced ages today. Well, it seems 301 00:23:26.079 --> 00:23:29.279 to me that every part, in fact, of this very base, is 302 00:23:29.319 --> 00:23:33.319 not this difficulty in linking us and trying to understand the other that is looking 303 00:23:33.359 --> 00:23:37.599 at what is happening from a totally different point of view than ours. And 304 00:23:37.680 --> 00:23:41.200 you can live better, veronica, you can live better, you can live 305 00:23:41.240 --> 00:23:47.680 different. We are doomed to live in this way, to have limiting thoughts, 306 00:23:48.200 --> 00:23:52.319 to see all chaotic. Evidently, the world brings us to our knees. 307 00:23:52.480 --> 00:23:55.839 The world outside. It' s all bad news. If there' 308 00:23:55.920 --> 00:23:57.400 s no war. Here there is war, already, there are problems, 309 00:23:59.079 --> 00:24:02.480 there are devaluations, there are public problems, the economic, social disks, 310 00:24:02.680 --> 00:24:07.240 there is hunger, there is lack of water and it seems that in all 311 00:24:07.519 --> 00:24:11.319 the epochs of the history of this planet there are enormous, serious, conflictive 312 00:24:11.319 --> 00:24:17.039 problems. You can live in another veronic way and I think we could live 313 00:24:17.119 --> 00:24:23.839 better. The problems seem fundamental to me, that we end up channeling our 314 00:24:23.880 --> 00:24:27.680 energies towards issues that do not go in our favor, but actually harm us. 315 00:24:27.799 --> 00:24:33.359 When you talk about war or hunger and all these issues that we still 316 00:24:33.359 --> 00:24:37.200 haven' t been able to solve. It seems to me that they have 317 00:24:37.359 --> 00:24:41.559 to do with this, that the human being is not unable to continue creating, 318 00:24:41.680 --> 00:24:45.960 to continue generating events, to continue generating possibilities so that the people can 319 00:24:47.039 --> 00:24:49.400 also live better, but it seems to me that we provoke our energies, 320 00:24:49.599 --> 00:24:53.680 that is, questions that pollute us destroying and that, of course, they 321 00:24:55.200 --> 00:25:00.880 do not benefit others, that do not benefit others. It seems to have 322 00:25:00.920 --> 00:25:04.839 to do with our thinking as human beings and also with that, well, 323 00:25:06.079 --> 00:25:07.839 we all have a little bit of something very good and something very bad, 324 00:25:08.000 --> 00:25:12.000 and sometimes we' re kind of looking for that balance. But good is 325 00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:17.000 in us and in our attitudes and in what we want to do with this 326 00:25:17.160 --> 00:25:25.599 super powerful mind that we take up where we channel our energies, our strength 327 00:25:25.720 --> 00:25:32.519 and our life, because we can take advantage of it to do good things 328 00:25:32.599 --> 00:25:36.559 or we can collaborate so that there is more destruction, more hatred and more 329 00:25:37.119 --> 00:25:38.440 bad things that should not be happening anymore. Sometimes it' s like we 330 00:25:38.640 --> 00:25:44.359 say how it can be that with so many inventions and so many years that 331 00:25:44.480 --> 00:25:49.279 we have been and with so much evolution, on the one hand, on 332 00:25:49.279 --> 00:25:52.200 the other hand, these things continue to happen. And it seems to me 333 00:25:52.200 --> 00:25:56.359 to have to do with these two sides that we all have inside and good 334 00:25:56.400 --> 00:26:00.119 with the part that we feed most of each of us. There' s 335 00:26:00.200 --> 00:26:04.759 a story about a story out there, that there are two wolves, one 336 00:26:04.799 --> 00:26:08.519 good and one bad, and they ask Grandpa which one of them is going 337 00:26:10.160 --> 00:26:11.680 to live, that is, the one you feed not the good wolf to 338 00:26:11.680 --> 00:26:15.319 the bad logo. That' s what happens to thoughts, you feed bad 339 00:26:15.359 --> 00:26:19.640 thoughts because they' re hungry. He' s probably gonna beat the wolf. 340 00:26:19.960 --> 00:26:25.839 Okay. Now ask my dear. I see there' s a passion 341 00:26:25.839 --> 00:26:33.000 for what you do, a passion for how you live what you live. 342 00:26:33.039 --> 00:26:37.400 Why do I want to ask you this, because I think there are a 343 00:26:37.480 --> 00:26:42.079 lot of people who are wondering today. It' s worth writing that book. 344 00:26:42.839 --> 00:26:48.920 It' ll be worth the entrepreneurship I have. It will be worth 345 00:26:48.960 --> 00:26:53.799 it to continue with this. What advice you could give her, what recommendation 346 00:26:53.880 --> 00:26:59.480 you could give to that person who is doubting, who started maybe a few 347 00:26:59.519 --> 00:27:03.880 months ago or a few years ago or maybe not yesterday, and who has 348 00:27:03.920 --> 00:27:10.920 uncertainties and who is afraid and who has what advice you would give her to 349 00:27:11.000 --> 00:27:17.039 continue on this walk that, well, apparently, sounds like something very, 350 00:27:17.680 --> 00:27:19.720 very nice, but as the years go by and the damage goes on, 351 00:27:21.759 --> 00:27:23.759 it suddenly doesn' t turn out to be such a father to recommend something 352 00:27:23.759 --> 00:27:29.079 to us. Please, I' ll think of myself when I was in 353 00:27:29.119 --> 00:27:32.839 that writing place, I don' t write public or not public. I 354 00:27:32.920 --> 00:27:34.720 face the nets are face to face, because each one will live it from 355 00:27:34.720 --> 00:27:40.359 their own experience. But, well, I can tell you a little bit 356 00:27:40.440 --> 00:27:45.559 about mine. I said I have two paths. Yeah, I got two 357 00:27:45.559 --> 00:27:47.960 roads. Either I believe me or I don' t believe. Either I 358 00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:49.440 ' m going forward or I' m going back. I say well, 359 00:27:49.759 --> 00:27:53.519 the nature of human beings, as of plants and animals, is to grow. 360 00:27:56.119 --> 00:27:59.839 Our nature is to grow, that is to say, to develop, 361 00:28:00.359 --> 00:28:04.319 to evolve, we did not come to make one more or to sit down 362 00:28:04.400 --> 00:28:08.440 to see how life passes. So, I always say that there are like 363 00:28:08.559 --> 00:28:14.680 two circles that we can adopt. One begins with positive thoughts, which carry 364 00:28:14.799 --> 00:28:19.039 positive emotions, actions in our favor and results, in short, which are 365 00:28:19.079 --> 00:28:22.599 the ones we are looking for, which in turn, will revalidate positive beliefs 366 00:28:22.680 --> 00:28:30.480 about ourselves. We can approach that circle. Yes, which, of course, 367 00:28:30.680 --> 00:28:33.640 is the one that costs the most, because it involves leaving aside our 368 00:28:33.680 --> 00:28:38.400 brain that is always looking for the threat. Which can get the most out 369 00:28:38.440 --> 00:28:42.000 of the worst that can happen. This is our primitive brain, which is 370 00:28:42.039 --> 00:28:48.920 always looking for the threat to potential danger. So, if we get hold 371 00:28:48.960 --> 00:28:52.440 of this, we' re always going to think negative. We' re 372 00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:56.039 going to have emotions that hurt us, we' re going to go into 373 00:28:56.039 --> 00:29:02.160 actions that go, in short, our detriment and we' re going to 374 00:29:02.240 --> 00:29:03.079 find results that aren' t the ones we' re looking for. And 375 00:29:03.119 --> 00:29:07.119 on top of that, these results are going to validate these negative beliefs about 376 00:29:07.759 --> 00:29:11.559 ourselves, which we are the ones we already brought. Then it seems to 377 00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:15.039 me that it is an effort that is not in our nature, that costs 378 00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:19.519 us, but we will have to turn our attention towards that which can go 379 00:29:19.640 --> 00:29:26.799 well and we do not take off from there always having in our eyes the 380 00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:30.680 final goal and think that all the thoughts that take us in that direction serve 381 00:29:30.759 --> 00:29:33.599 us and all the rest is our primitive brain. This is about being looking 382 00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:38.519 for the threat or the potential damage doesn' t exist yet because it' 383 00:29:38.519 --> 00:29:41.400 s inside our imagination. It' s a thought and, well, it 384 00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:45.119 ' s going to be our decision where we want to go. They' 385 00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:49.200 re two absolutely opposite directions. One will lead us to grow and the other 386 00:29:49.240 --> 00:29:53.440 will lead us to be stopped in fears, in dangers, in threats, 387 00:29:53.640 --> 00:29:59.160 in negative thoughts and, ultimately, to the detriment of it will not lead 388 00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:04.599 us to grow. So it' s like we have to get the lion 389 00:30:06.319 --> 00:30:08.119 out of the inside and somehow go against what our natural mechanism is, go 390 00:30:08.200 --> 00:30:11.920 against this primitive brain that' s always going to be alert and say well, 391 00:30:12.599 --> 00:30:15.880 I want this. This is what I want and I don' t 392 00:30:15.960 --> 00:30:19.720 take my eyes off him. It is as Henry Ford said, that all 393 00:30:19.759 --> 00:30:25.839 that he saw, that was absolutely Danine was the obstacles that he could come 394 00:30:25.920 --> 00:30:30.000 to see if he could take away the net gaze, then fix his gaze 395 00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:34.920 on the net from, of course, gave the previously determined with absolute clarity, 396 00:30:36.680 --> 00:30:40.440 look there and all the rest choose new. Because, in short, 397 00:30:40.920 --> 00:30:45.599 I always say the reality you see is a little dot, it' s 398 00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:48.559 never all reality. Then it' s like saying good even I could see 399 00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:52.559 that little dot. From today I look at the fact that another little point 400 00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:56.640 is reality. Not reality. Ccede these two dots. There' s a 401 00:30:56.000 --> 00:30:59.599 lot more, but I focus on what I want to see because it' 402 00:30:59.599 --> 00:31:02.960 s going to take me to the jesugi life. Then the rectum does not 403 00:31:02.960 --> 00:31:07.240 exist, it does exist, but neither is the yes. The son was 404 00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:12.200 just another public, but it' s going to be the one that' 405 00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:15.640 s a matter of choices, which is also very important. I' d 406 00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:21.839 love to. I' d love to ask you my dear, but let 407 00:31:21.920 --> 00:31:23.079 ' s imagine, we' re not going to play with imagination. Let 408 00:31:23.119 --> 00:31:27.160 ' s imagine you' re the next President of Argentina. Today talking about 409 00:31:27.279 --> 00:31:32.279 politics in Argentina and politics in Mexico is a big issue. There won' 410 00:31:32.319 --> 00:31:33.480 t be people who applaud giving, people who don' t. We' 411 00:31:33.480 --> 00:31:37.839 re not going to get into politics, but let' s imagine that Veronica 412 00:31:37.920 --> 00:31:42.640 Rosenberg, for all your familiar family friends contact, that is, oh finally 413 00:31:42.720 --> 00:31:48.079 we got a good President, No ok is the future President of Argentina. 414 00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:53.359 Tell me three presidential decrees that you would do what would change. So you 415 00:31:53.400 --> 00:31:59.359 said. It was by law I think we need to change it. You 416 00:31:59.359 --> 00:32:04.480 ' d change. Well, the main one I' d love to say 417 00:32:04.519 --> 00:32:07.440 to tomorrow' s game everyone develops their talents. Wait for me to see, 418 00:32:08.640 --> 00:32:12.599 man, we' re having a little bug problem there. See if 419 00:32:12.680 --> 00:32:20.240 you can turn it off and turn on the mic. I don' t 420 00:32:20.279 --> 00:32:24.000 know something' s failing. Let' s see, OK, it sounds 421 00:32:24.119 --> 00:32:30.799 like a little robot. Let' s see if the Internet signal is given. 422 00:32:30.319 --> 00:32:37.000 Let me, let me see here with my people. Let' s 423 00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:45.559 take a two- second break, okay, but forgive me. We' 424 00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:50.119 re here We' ve fixed the problem. Then you told us three things. 425 00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:54.759 The first one is. The first would be for everyone to develop their 426 00:32:54.839 --> 00:32:59.960 talents. Yes, yes, even by decree. Well each person has tomorrow 427 00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:04.279 to take care of what he likes best and take it to the maximum to 428 00:33:04.319 --> 00:33:12.039 take advantage of a little what each one brings that good, of course, 429 00:33:12.200 --> 00:33:16.279 that it will benefit everyone else. Not that would be the first decree. 430 00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:24.160 As a second decree, I would like people to have workshops, to have 431 00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:30.599 to do with psychology so that they can develop their interpersonal skills and improve their 432 00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:38.680 communication. Or the second yes, and as a third, I think I 433 00:33:38.720 --> 00:33:44.400 would somehow look for a way for people to help others. It seems to 434 00:33:44.519 --> 00:33:49.079 me that people want to do it, but often they don' t find 435 00:33:49.119 --> 00:33:53.240 how, and it' s like you have to direct the aid a little 436 00:33:53.240 --> 00:33:58.079 bit or offer exceptions or make available the tools so that people can do it. 437 00:33:58.160 --> 00:34:01.480 It seems to me that many times people who want and I don' 438 00:34:01.599 --> 00:34:08.000 t know the shame you know where she asks, know how to start and 439 00:34:08.480 --> 00:34:13.199 well, prosecute all that that could at first get through. That' s 440 00:34:13.199 --> 00:34:17.199 great. Also asking you wanted to see me or these are yes or no 441 00:34:17.199 --> 00:34:21.800 questions. Those are quick questions. Here we enter another, another part of 442 00:34:21.920 --> 00:34:25.920 the interview. Actually, I think there' s a lot to talk about. 443 00:34:27.480 --> 00:34:31.360 I think there are, of course, the microphones that good question, 444 00:34:31.599 --> 00:34:37.000 are open to you to keep talking about many things, but let' s 445 00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:40.440 go with questions first of all yes or no. Nothing more. I can 446 00:34:40.519 --> 00:34:45.320 answer that, OK, then I' ll ask you questions if you prefer 447 00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:50.519 to see, OK, they' re very fast. There are tricky questions, 448 00:34:51.159 --> 00:34:54.480 there are creative questions, there are weird questions, but I love to 449 00:34:54.519 --> 00:35:00.880 do this and I' m going to tell you why I always wanted to 450 00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:06.800 be sp or what, first, second hatred, psychometric tests, hate them 451 00:35:06.800 --> 00:35:10.000 you don' t know what questions they were asking me and I was saying 452 00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:14.280 that one time it' s a wound and another I' m going to 453 00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:15.760 ask them questions and I' m going to take it out well, because 454 00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:15.760 now is when, then yes, I' m going to ask questions. 455 00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:20.480 So, weird socks, but let' s have some fun remember. There 456 00:35:20.480 --> 00:35:24.800 are no good or bad answers. Okay, so we start with yes or 457 00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:30.800 no answers. You consider yourself a happy person. Yeah, you' re 458 00:35:30.920 --> 00:35:38.480 100% satisfied with your physique. You didn' t break someone' s 459 00:35:38.519 --> 00:35:46.960 heart. Yeah, you' ve ever thought about being a clown. You 460 00:35:47.880 --> 00:35:52.000 don' t feel lonely. Yeah, you' ve done your homework. 461 00:35:53.440 --> 00:36:00.679 Yeah, you already threw away the trash. Yeah, you washed the dishes, 462 00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:09.320 you weren' t satisfied. If you want to leave, you don 463 00:36:09.360 --> 00:36:14.800 ' t tell lies You often don' t consider yourself a controversial person. 464 00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:22.199 You don' t think the man really made it to the moon. Yeah, 465 00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:28.760 you' re scared of dying. Yes, you would like to live 466 00:36:28.760 --> 00:36:35.760 in space. You do consider yourself a good citizen. Yes, you' 467 00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:39.039 d like to be born again. Yes, peronic. You' d like 468 00:36:39.039 --> 00:36:45.119 to be immortal. Yeah, veronica, you' re able to spend a 469 00:36:45.320 --> 00:36:52.320 whole month alone. Yes, you agree with the death penalty. No, 470 00:36:52.400 --> 00:36:53.760 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 471 00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:53.760 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 472 00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:53.760 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 473 00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:53.760 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 474 00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:53.760 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 475 00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:53.760 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 476 00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:53.760 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 477 00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:53.760 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 478 00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:53.760 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 479 00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:53.760 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 480 00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:53.760 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 481 00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:53.760 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 482 00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:53.760 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 483 00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:53.760 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 484 00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:53.760 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 485 00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:53.760 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 486 00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:53.760 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 487 00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:53.760 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 488 00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:53.760 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 489 00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:53.760 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 490 00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:53.760 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 491 00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:53.760 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 492 00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:53.760 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 493 00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:53.760 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 494 00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:53.760 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 495 00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:53.760 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 496 00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:53.760 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 497 00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:53.760 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 498 00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:53.760 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 499 00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:53.760 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 500 00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:53.760 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 501 00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:53.760 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 502 00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:53.760 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 503 00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:54.760 no, no, no, no, no, no Very well answered, 504 00:36:54.960 --> 00:36:59.039 my truth, very well. Hey, I know there are questions that 505 00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:01.360 you suddenly say ay ole. This is very thick, but you have to 506 00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:06.119 answer very well, very well. Now I' m going to ask you 507 00:37:06.400 --> 00:37:09.000 if you prefer to or OK, for example, what do you prefer the 508 00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:16.960 cold or the heat? Cold which river? OK, spend a year at 509 00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:28.239 forty degrees Celsius or at least ten degrees Celsius, forty, be able to 510 00:37:28.559 --> 00:37:35.639 fly or be invisible. Which you prefer to sing everything you say or dance 511 00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:44.320 everything you hear, dance everything I do. OK do you prefer to detect 512 00:37:44.440 --> 00:37:52.280 every lie they tell you or would you prefer to be believed by every lie 513 00:37:52.280 --> 00:37:54.639 you tell me what they believe me? You prefer coca cola or pepsi coca 514 00:37:57.760 --> 00:38:04.679 coffee or tea or coffee, exercise outdoors or in gym, outdoors, beach 515 00:38:04.960 --> 00:38:16.480 or mountain. Hey, you' d rather see yourself in a mirror every 516 00:38:16.559 --> 00:38:25.800 day or never be able to comb every day. The second one hears tell 517 00:38:25.880 --> 00:38:32.920 us, please, the worst gift you' ve ever been given at Christmas 518 00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:38.039 on a holiday, so you see it and you tell me how beautiful it 519 00:38:38.039 --> 00:38:40.199 is, but you know it' s horrible. Tell us some anecdote. 520 00:38:43.039 --> 00:38:45.719 Yeah, I don' t like adoring, I love not going to the 521 00:38:45.760 --> 00:38:51.840 house. I never put it on I like it and or perfumes I don 522 00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:57.079 ' t. I really don' t use it, but, well, 523 00:38:57.400 --> 00:39:04.159 talk to us a little bit louder because tell me something. You think there 524 00:39:04.760 --> 00:39:09.920 ' s beauty in pain. No, no, no, I think it 525 00:39:12.360 --> 00:39:15.559 ' s clear today morning. You saw yourself in the mirror, you dressed 526 00:39:15.639 --> 00:39:23.280 yourself in the mirror. You feel younger than you look. Yeah, how 527 00:39:23.320 --> 00:39:27.960 old are you when you look in the mirror, uh, no, how 528 00:39:28.039 --> 00:39:30.400 old are you, but sometimes the mirror, how old do you look? 529 00:39:32.159 --> 00:39:40.719 Forty man, how you think you look like twenty- eight years old women, 530 00:39:40.920 --> 00:39:45.800 man you look very young hear me tell me something. Imagine you have 531 00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:52.880 a chance to go to the moon for a month, okay a month a 532 00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:57.360 trip to the moon. Wow, you can take three things, that' 533 00:39:57.360 --> 00:40:00.760 s all. What do you get the math, the math, okay, 534 00:40:01.360 --> 00:40:07.519 the fundamental math, some book, okay a book and it can be a 535 00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:10.559 person to my son. Yeah, okay, well, not theoretically, but 536 00:40:10.559 --> 00:40:15.639 let' s start with you taking son. Jota to see if your son 537 00:40:15.719 --> 00:40:19.000 wants to go. That' s another thing. I had a picture, 538 00:40:20.559 --> 00:40:28.480 okay Ok tell me something. Why do you think it got fashionable to go 539 00:40:28.519 --> 00:40:31.400 to psychological therapy. Why do you think it went into fashion,' cause 540 00:40:31.440 --> 00:40:37.360 today, just as it went into fashion running. I remember a few years 541 00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:43.599 ago giving and running someone started doing it and now everyone runs. Then it 542 00:40:43.679 --> 00:40:49.719 got fashionable. Everybody rides a bike. Not now it turns out everyone' 543 00:40:49.760 --> 00:40:52.159 s going to therapy. The truth is, I don' t think so, 544 00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:54.239 because if we were all in therapy, this society would be another. 545 00:40:54.559 --> 00:40:58.119 But, well, today everyone goes to therapy. Why do you think this 546 00:40:58.199 --> 00:41:00.599 phenomenon is happening? As you say, it seems to me they' re 547 00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:05.840 fashions. I don' t think there' s a single therapy for everyone, 548 00:41:06.320 --> 00:41:10.639 and not everyone. I think it' s good for therapy or you 549 00:41:10.760 --> 00:41:15.519 can get therapy. There really are people who don' t feel good about 550 00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:20.840 therapy. Maybe it feels better to save when you' re feeling better riding 551 00:41:20.920 --> 00:41:27.159 bikes and it seems to me that going to therapy involves an exercise of self 552 00:41:27.360 --> 00:41:30.159 - knowledge that not everyone is willing to do. So it seems to me 553 00:41:30.159 --> 00:41:35.960 that going to therapy has to start from a very strong personal decision and not 554 00:41:36.079 --> 00:41:44.559 from a fashion, because from the changes, obviously, it is one thing 555 00:41:44.599 --> 00:41:50.719 to go to therapy and another thing is to get interesting things in therapy to 556 00:41:50.719 --> 00:41:53.159 expose oneself to being vulnerable. So, if it' s not that easy, 557 00:41:53.400 --> 00:41:59.280 now I want to ask you, you believe in second chances. Yeah, 558 00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:06.119 yeah, you think it' s good to ask, and you think 559 00:42:06.199 --> 00:42:09.239 it' s good to give second chances. Yeah. It seems to me 560 00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:16.159 that if you end up guiding your different ones, but if your different magazines 561 00:42:16.280 --> 00:42:23.280 that are worth a second chance, I think that different ones tell you that 562 00:42:23.400 --> 00:42:27.360 it does not merit that perhaps with a conversation nothing more can be closed the 563 00:42:27.360 --> 00:42:30.920 subject. Maybe that' s the way. We must not look at the 564 00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:35.320 case, but it seems to me that people can make an impression and in 565 00:42:35.360 --> 00:42:37.440 some cases it seems to me that yes, which is very convenient on a 566 00:42:37.559 --> 00:42:40.679 second chance, I do not know if always. In some cases he hears 567 00:42:40.760 --> 00:42:49.119 tell me something, please, but if you could eat three foods for six 568 00:42:49.159 --> 00:42:52.480 months, you can' t eat just three more foods for six months. 569 00:42:53.360 --> 00:43:05.280 What food you' d eat and I can take on an entry map when 570 00:43:05.400 --> 00:43:12.559 besides more steam waits, but it kills as a drink, it' s 571 00:43:12.960 --> 00:43:22.079 pot of water for mate ok it was an apple or banana for a fruit 572 00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:27.440 and the third and maybe some fruit, dried or something like to feed me 573 00:43:27.440 --> 00:43:30.960 yes tell us, please. Of what you are most grateful, Veronica Rosenberg, 574 00:43:32.280 --> 00:43:37.880 and of what you are most sorry for Platicans, a little bit of 575 00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:45.559 that gratitude that you have deep eternal and that repentance also that you might have 576 00:43:45.559 --> 00:43:50.519 grateful for the second opportunities. Yeah, I' ve had life- death 577 00:43:50.559 --> 00:43:54.639 care and I think they were back to being wanted to start there. So 578 00:43:54.679 --> 00:44:00.920 there my thanks for that said yes, that were the second chances. Repented, 579 00:44:01.360 --> 00:44:08.159 yes, I also did a number of things I shouldn' t have 580 00:44:08.239 --> 00:44:15.880 done about several of those, too. I really want to thank you very 581 00:44:15.920 --> 00:44:19.039 much for the opportunity to talk to you. Thank you also for your patience, 582 00:44:19.199 --> 00:44:23.559 because let me talk to you and tell you that if there has been 583 00:44:23.639 --> 00:44:29.400 an interview in which I have had a jet, technical, not technical problems, 584 00:44:29.639 --> 00:44:31.280 and if you do not listen and if I do not know what has 585 00:44:31.280 --> 00:44:35.199 been in this interview. I really have been a subject and Veronica has been 586 00:44:35.320 --> 00:44:40.559 patient, patient, patient with me in a majestic way. You don' 587 00:44:40.639 --> 00:44:43.159 t really know what you' re up to. I admire, Veronica, 588 00:44:44.440 --> 00:44:49.239 regardless of your patience, I admire your work, I admire your effort, 589 00:44:49.880 --> 00:44:52.239 I admire your dedication, I admire all the good you do. So much 590 00:44:52.440 --> 00:45:00.920 so that even Mexico you' re impacting. Then I really encourage you to 591 00:45:00.159 --> 00:45:06.000 keep doing what you do, to keep believing in your projects, because today, 592 00:45:06.440 --> 00:45:10.039 you can realize that this is the product of that effort and that dedication. 593 00:45:12.480 --> 00:45:15.599 Dude, I' m sending you a big hug, lots of blessings 594 00:45:15.719 --> 00:45:21.880 for you, for your family, and I' d love to finish this 595 00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:23.239 interview with you giving us one last message for the whole planet. If this 596 00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:30.920 message could reach all corners of planet earth and beyond, no, because it 597 00:45:30.920 --> 00:45:36.480 must be translated into others and other extraterrestrial dialects. It' s a problem. 598 00:45:36.760 --> 00:45:38.199 I do, I know, you don' t, but I do 599 00:45:38.559 --> 00:45:43.760 know no, but I would love for us to say goodbye with one last 600 00:45:43.760 --> 00:45:46.320 message, please. But yes, if there could be one last message, 601 00:45:46.480 --> 00:45:52.280 it would be every person would tell him to believe absolutely in himself and in 602 00:45:52.280 --> 00:45:57.800 his dreams. Yes, there is no impossibility, there are taculas of challenges, 603 00:45:58.320 --> 00:46:02.360 there are challenges and well that deserves that one has a lot of desire, 604 00:46:04.239 --> 00:46:06.519 a lot of drive, a lot of enthusiasm and that it takes from 605 00:46:06.519 --> 00:46:08.679 inside everything that it has to give. So very welcome. Yes, I 606 00:46:08.679 --> 00:46:12.840 think we have to say yes to the challenges, possibilities, opportunities and dreams 607 00:46:12.920 --> 00:46:22.159 infinitely, salaries are appearing on screen the social networks of Veronica Rosenberg. Those 608 00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:27.400 who are just listening to us can find it on Facebook as well as Veronica 609 00:46:27.400 --> 00:46:36.960 Rosenberg. Rosenberg with that, in tiktok it' s like Veronica odont Veronica 610 00:46:37.119 --> 00:46:44.519 Rosenberg is too and on Instagram it' s like but Rosenberg on Instagram is 611 00:46:44.960 --> 00:46:46.679 as I see Rosenberg, This is Veronica Rosenberg. It has been a pleasure, 612 00:46:47.079 --> 00:46:51.679 a privilege and an honor for me to discuss. Thank you for everything. 613 00:46:51.920 --> 00:46:54.960 Thank you, therefore, and I invite you to see another chapter that 614 00:46:55.079 --> 00:47:00.239 will stay with us. Share this net chapter on Verónica' s social networks 615 00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:06.880 because believe me that they are going to take a very pleasant surprise and also 616 00:47:06.920 --> 00:47:09.639 contact her to say hey vero, because I greet you from Acá, from 617 00:47:09.719 --> 00:47:14.960 Brazil, I greet you from Spain, I greet you from Chile, from 618 00:47:14.960 --> 00:47:16.320 Canada. What do I know about Japan? Look even in Japan, in 619 00:47:16.400 --> 00:47:20.599 Japanese, not man, if I know all the languages very hard, then 620 00:47:20.920 --> 00:47:23.119 I speak to you in Japanese. In case you want, I don' 621 00:47:23.159 --> 00:47:24.920 t even understand myself, but you don' t know how nice I get. 622 00:47:25.519 --> 00:47:30.159 So, what pleasure and privilege we hear and see each other in a 623 00:47:30.239 --> 00:47:32.920 next chapter of what a good question, Very good morning, very good evening, 624 00:47:32.960 --> 00:47:37.360 very good night wherever you are, but many blessings. Thank you for 625 00:47:37.360 --> 00:47:59.800 everything, thank you very much. There you go.