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M HM live from the post apocalyptic
hellscape that is northern California. It's the

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giant bomb casts you get still alive? Yeah, everybody check in. Jeff

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here alive account of four Ask later, ask again later, answer hazy table

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that one for now. Yeah,
Drew Scandaling, I think we lot Drew

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has gone into emergency broadcast mode.
Is he's a dead man? Switch?

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If that buzzer stuffed buzzing, you
know something bad happen. I am confident

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with Dan record is still alive.
It was my first earthquake. You're not

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gonna let a little thing. I
woke up and it was crazy at a

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little thing like a roll? What
is it? A rolling tembler? Is

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that what they called this one?
What it had a specific name? I

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heard a lot that there was a
lot of lateral movement, Yes, there

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was one. It was a rolling
aspect to it. I want to hear

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first earthquake experience. Okay. I
was kind of drunk. It was the

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night of hood Slam, so I
drank a bunch of whiskey. I saw

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a picture of you at hood Slam
and get it checks out Getting whiskey porn

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in from brose If Joe brody.
Uh so, yeah, I fell asleep

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right when I got back, and
then I woke up at like three twenty

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and I felt this like rumbling,
and I thought it was the train passing

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by, and then it kept kept
shaking more and more and going on way

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too long. What kind of train
do you have going by your house that

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you couldn't stake that rumbling for a
train? The mooney thing, I don't

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know. Sometimes it rumbles. And
I was drunk, but I woke up

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fucking moonies, man, I can't
trust them. Nope. And so I

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wake up and I was like,
oh, this is this has got to

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be and this is an earthquake here. And I was like, I don't

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what am I supposed to do here? Because I know tornadoes you go down

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to the bottom floor and he's sitting
near a wall or whatever. And I

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thought about that for like two seconds
and still kept going on, and I

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was like, I'm on the top
floor. I'm on a mattress. If

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my apartment building collapses, I'll probably
just surf the mattress now and I'll be

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fine. Yeah, that's so I
just went back to bed, all right,

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And I woke up. Fine,
let'st'll stop for a minute. Let's

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do a little personal audit. Okay, how if you had to let's let's

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okay, turn your gaze inward.
How would you rate your earthquake preparedness if

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you had to put a letter grade
on it. I think I'm just kind

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of in general bulletproof. So I
think I'm totally prepared for. I've survived

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microbursts and tornadoes and earthquakes and yeah, yeah, just throw whatever you got

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to me hurricanes. Doorway, that's
what That's what I've always been told.

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Yeah, you want to go stand
in the door. Why why would that

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case? They're reinforced in a way
that they are less likely to collapse.

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There's more structural support there, there's
nothing above you. Yeah, and there's

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nothing to fall on you. There's
a roof above you. Oh yeah yeah,

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but but no matter where you are
roofs, other parts of the roof

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are going to collapse before the part
over the doorway. Okay, So it's

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like what I'm saying, I'm kind
of in a wall. Yeah, okay,

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I guess you get us like a
stud finder or something. No,

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no, you stick. You just
look for the nearest place where a door

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opens, where the door the door. The door is opened, open the

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door where the door goes. When
the door is closed, the door the

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door to act like you're a door. It seems easy enough. Yeah,

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and you'll be fine, easy,
but not a member of the doors.

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It's a mistake. A lot of
don't want to do that. No,

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trew, what was your earthquake experience? Like, I didn't wake up,

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No, slept through it, slept
through it? Holy crap? Yeah,

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well you were born out here?
Yeah, so yeah, I was about

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to ask what you're eighty nine earthquake
experience was like, but then I had

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to stop and wonder if you were
alive for that one. I was,

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but I was on a flight.
Oh yeah, and it was diverted.

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I was coming back to San Francisco
and I got diverted to Sacramento. I

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think, So, you've missed all
the big ones out here. Yeah,

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because this one, this is the
biggest one since eighty nine. Yeah right,

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yeah, this is a six point
zero. That pretty good. That

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one was a six point nine.
I want to say, did that do

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a bunch of like Damna? Ninthquake
was bad? Like, okay, a

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lot of people died, a lot
of oh wow, a lot of serious.

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They're like sixty seventy people died I
think in one Jesus Christ. Yeah,

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I don't know if you know,
but the magnitude scales log arrhythmic,

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So a seven point zero is ten
times worse than a six point Oh okay,

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yep. Yeah. But also also
to put it in perspective, I

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would say, I mean I've been
out here for eleven and a half years.

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Uh, and I would say,
like every earthquake that I've experienced out

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here has been at most a four, but usually more like in the lower

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threes. Wouldn't you say that's probably
that's properly right. Most of the ones

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you see a few of those,
Yeah, but even the ones that you

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feel, you'll like run to the
USGS site and it'll be like, yeah,

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it was a three point three.
You'll feel you go, oh,

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how quaint. Yeah. Yeah,
it's like like they've been. There have

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been earthquakes where I was sitting in
like my ROI desk chair at home,

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like in front of the computer,
and it's like, you don't know if

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it was an earthquake or if the
chair just like rolled back an inch,

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you know, like it's barely perceptible. Well, but this was like a

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good, solid, like twenty seconds
of serious shaking. Man. Yeah,

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well I saw the epicenter was up
north, which you know, we're most

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of us from near the city.
So like, I'm wondering, have you

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been home yet, Jeff, I
just come straight from the air flu.

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I came directly from the airport to
here, so I haven't been home.

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All your stuff could be askew.
I mean everything when I've talked to you

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around there has been fine. It's
far enough away from it was. It

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was centered a little I guess north
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like Napa American Kings so all yeah, American Canyon, Napa around there,

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So all the pictures you see are
of yes, American King America. Yeah,

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it's a theme song. Yeah,
that's their whole theme song. Just

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when you pull in. If you
sing that at any convenience storey, you

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get fifteen percent off wine. I
guess probably man, so much wine spilled,

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oh yeah, tragic news. Yeah, those are great looking photos.

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Just all the wine spilled off,
the shells just shattered, just I mean,

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you know, yeah, if this
was it, this was forties,

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you wouldn't be bummed out. It
was always more like obviously, obviously hearts

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go out to everybody affected by this
thing, or at the same time,

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like the first photos coming out of
this thing, it was just the most

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bougie shiite wine bottles were sacrificed.
Fuck off. And then actually the cool

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part of the part that made me
go like yeah, like I was bummed

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out that I missed it was when
I saw like streets opening up and bits

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of street coming together and pushing up. There's that picture going around of a

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guy using pushed up street as a
skateboard ms kicker, and I'm like,

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well, that's fucking awesome. Yeah. Yeah, there must be at least

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one skateboarding game that takes place in
the apocalypse, right, I mean Tony

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Hawk three. The La level has
rails that when you grind all the earthquake

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rails, an earthquake happens, totally
reshapes the level. Just just life imitates

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video games. Absolutely. Yeah,
you're gonna get home and like a drawer

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of yours will be open an inch
yeah, or I mean all the cracks

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in all the walls that are already
there will be an inch wider. Because

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it's everything is on a obie up
there, so everything naturally shifts all the

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time. Yeah, so is your
Faberge egg collections that secure? I mean,

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I just have it all up on
the highest shells I've got. That's

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fair, you know. It's just
I like to, you know, exalt

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them to the heavens on high and
all that sort of stuff. So it's

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like there's there's less gravity up there, so exactly you get further away from

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the earth. Every chance they'll be
flying around. Right. Uh, yeah,

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I'm sure everything's fine. But yeah, that's the thing is everything is

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on adobe over there. So like
right now, the door going from my

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garage to my house doesn't shut all
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it's like warm when you know,
in the summer and the winter, the

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door the wood swells up or you
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fucked. So everything's fucked there anyway, you know, like everyone just accepts

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it. It's only when you're telling
it to people that go like, what's

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adobe and you have to explain,
like, well, they built these houses

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on this stuff that just moves.
So I thought it was the little car

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that's made out of clay. Yeah, yeah, that's that too. Okay,

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maybe you should just go all the
way, just knock all your walls

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down, go open floor. Yeah, that's probably one giant room. Is

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Adobe be more prone to liquid faction? Like could your house just sink into

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a I don't believe, so I
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but fuck man, who knows?
Do you remember back in the Japan earthquake,

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Like a lot of a lot of
video came out of that one,

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which was crazy because it was such
a long earthquake. It was like a

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minute or something or longer, like
cracks fissures opened up in the ground.

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And then there are there are videos
of like a sidewalk just moving back and

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forth next to itself, which is
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able to see with your eyes that
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Yeah, and then like water or
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liquid like they had it was there
someone was walking through a park and they

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filmed the ground and it was just
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I mean that happens in earth quay
because the vibration let's water out. Yeah.

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I mean. Ryan used to tell
the story of he was at Candlestick

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for what was the game. There
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World Series earthquake in eight nine World
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start when the earthquake happened, and
like he would always tell the story of,

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like you could look across the stadium
and see the stands like undulating,

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like waving up and down, like
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watching that game on TV at the
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you just hear the guy. It
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feel it before obviously it gets out
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I I have this weird I don't
know why it happens, but it happened

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in that earthquake, and it happened
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it's pretty fairly sizable. I was
about to tell that story. Were you

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there that year also? Yeah?
Yeah, And in both situations, my

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instinct was to strike a surfing pose. In fact, the one in Japan

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happened late at night and I jumped
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that's that hotels are really high.
Yeah, I mean yeah, it was

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like and those buildings are all built
away. That was the thing that was

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what blew my mind was that after
the actual quake was over, the building

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kept swaying back and forth. Yeah, but they're built, they're built to

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be flexible. Yeah. Like there
shot like pointing up into skyscrapers and they're

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all moving like trees in the wind. Really freaky, super super weird.

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Was the surfing pose for fun or
was that like an instinctual like this is

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probably safer. No, it's for
fun. Okay, I think earthquakes are

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totally cool. It actually it was
really cool. Actually yeah, I mean

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obviously super dangerous and yes, hopefully
no one gets hurt. But whatever earth

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shakes, man, you're powerless to
stop it. This wasn't even the Saint

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Andreas. No, No, that
was the fault up there, and naps

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different faults. So we're still due. Yeah, I know that's scary.

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Saint Andreas comes all the way up
here, right, I know. It

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goes through La Yeah, but it
yeah, I think it's doesn't it run

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like most under of the state.
Yeah yeah, yeah, they keep saying

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we're due. Yeah, sure,
I don't know. Surf it surf the

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quake. I surf the quake.
I don't know. Five to the quake.

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If it got bad enough, I
don't think we'd be making jokes anymore,

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Oh sure, or we would,
because that's the only if it gets

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bad enough, then it's one of
those things where like you know, whenever

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you buy a house out here,
there's always going to be some you know,

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insurance hack that tries to sell you
earthquake insurance, and you just you

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never buy it, because if things
are so bad that you need earthquake insurance

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to fix your problem, everything is
leveled and there's gonna be no money to

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pay that insurance. Anyway. The
government want to come in and FEMA will

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save us. That's how that works, right, Yeah, yeah, I

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mean they federally managed emergency situation.
What they mandate, that's exactly what they've

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done. Bang up job. During
the during the eighty nine, my dad

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was driving on a highway like a
like a I think it was like an

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overpass or something, and the whole
thing lurched to one side, so he

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was in there was two lanes.
He is in the right lane, and

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it lurched to the right, so
he just went into the left lane and

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then everyone in the left lane got
shoved up against the side geez. And

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then it lurched back and everyone in
the right lane, got shoved up against

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the side and he went back into
the right lane. So they're all the

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cars were just shoved to the side
of the road and he just drove down

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right down the middle. That is
intense. Yeah, that's crazy. And

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he said in the rearview mirror he
could see like dust from buildings. The

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landscape should not be shifting in all
duty maps. Yeah, that defies reason

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an explanation. Yes, this makes
me want to get my earthquake kit.

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But yes, what is your earthquake
kit? Three gallons of water and a

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knife, they said, They said
on the news today one gallon of water

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per person per day. Okay,
so let's say three days minimum to be

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safe. Sure, yeah, three
three gallons of water and a knife so

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you can get someone else's water.
Good idea. Got a hand crank operated

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radio, Okay, it's got a
little flashlight in it. I don't know

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Mr E's or canned food. What
else would you put in there? I'm

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done with the knife flash Its flares
are flays are pretty okay, Yeah,

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get some flares. I've never actually
lit a flare, Jeff, Is it

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fun? It's not, it's it's
it's kind of cool. But then you

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have a lit flare and you're like, oh, I mean, this isn't

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as neat as actual fireworks. You
just pretend like you're yelling at t Rex's

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Yeah, pretty much. Is it
better to a light a Roman candle and

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hold it as it goes off?
That's super funny. That is way more

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on the internet shot. So you're
just holding it, It's like, well

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that I guess there's a kind of
a fire coming out of this makes a

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light other stuff on fire? Yeah
yeah, yeah, yeah, you can

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throw a flare into a gas station. I don't know, what do you

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want to do? I mean,
the world's ending. The earthquake hit,

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like you want to blow something up? Yeah, so you're excited to get

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home? Uh yeah, I want
to see what what the what it looks

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like up there? Yeah? I
would. I would definitely be feeling a

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little anxious if I were away from
my house that was right near an earthquake

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for a weekend. Clearly, clearly
you're being deeply affected by it. But

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like I said, you know,
I called people that live like a block

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away. Yeah that's fine. Sure, so sure, well i'n't too worried

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about it. We all made it. We're here. Yeah, let's talk

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about stuff. Who wants to go
us? This the part where I picked

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somebody. Yeah, I mean you're
just the host. You should probably shit

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all right, I'll get the hang
of this one direction and go around.

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That's usually what. Well. I
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I'm not gonna start with you.
Dan, It's fine. I uh went

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to a Mario Kart sixty four tournaments. Yes, I saw. I saw

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some pictures floating around on the internet
of that. Yeah, everyone's sad just

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playing. Everyone had a great time, Jeff. We were at Soda Pop

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Vinskis here in San Francisco. I'm
precious, what a precious name. It

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was nice. We played Mario Kart
sixty four. Everyone had a great time.

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It was one on one. It
was just like everybody goofing, just

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like, let's play this bad game
competitively. We all had a grand old

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time. I got after that,
it's gonna be Amagon Races. I'd sign

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up for that. Yeah. I
got fourth place out of thirty two and

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my prize was a cement mixer shot, which I had never had before.

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Has anyone in here heard of that? Yeah, I've heard of it.

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I think it's kind of a prank
shot, so I'll save anyone listening.

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If someone asked you to take it. They gave you two things, two

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shot glasses, and they say you
put them both in your mouth and you

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switch it together. And I had
to do this like in front of the

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crowd because they called me up on
the microphone like, oh, Sement mixer

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shot, come up here. I
was like, okay, so everyone's watching

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and stuff and I'm asking what it
is and they're like, I'm just taking

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and switch it together in your mouth. And apparently it's that weird like Bailey's

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thing that curdles or whatever. They
put it with a bunch of stuff.

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So I've never done that. That's
why I've never done the Irish car bomb

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is because the idea of curdling like
a delicious words sounds disgusting. Car bombs

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are actually delicious, though I've heard
that, but just the idea and cheese

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curds are good. I love cheese
curds, that's true. But I didn't

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know it was gonna happen, and
it was called the Sement Mixinger. I

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didn't really think about it. So
I took a shot. I took the

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other shot and everyone's yelling at me, like I gotta switch it around,

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gotta switsh it, And so I
switch it and it immediately turns into like

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the most like like cement. It
does feel like your mouth is filled with

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cement. You gotta swallow this stuff. And everyone's laughing. It's like,

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oh God, this is the worst. Uh So that was awful. Wow

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you that kind of I think that's
like the gag of fourth place thing sou

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But no, I love bar U
competition stuff like that, and I think

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they're going to do more, so
I'll keep doing those at home. I

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worked on Diablo three a lot and
Hookema. I've been working on Hooke.

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Yeah. So I could tell doing
the quick look with you you weren't too

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into it. I I like the
way it looks. I want to like

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it, but I just it needs
something in it for me that says,

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here's what you do. I think
I started finding out what there was to

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it because I was kind of ready
to write it off after the quick look.

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It just seemed like to screen savory
or whatever. But then yeah,

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I had lunched with Greg Grys from
Double Fying and he was just talking it

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up like crazy. He said,
oh my god, this is this is

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the best. The puzzles are braid, like I think he said it was

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his favorite game with twenty Sure,
what are you saying here? Death?

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No, no, go on?
And so I've played it and I played

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long enough to kind of get what
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very directionalist, there's no handhold these
stuff, but uh yeah, it's I

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think it's about rescuing snakes. And
so I made a dragon roller coaster and

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rescued a snake, and I think
the dragon was named Hector. Then I

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rescued another thing. And so basically
each one you didn't tell you its name

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was Hector or did you name it
Hector. That's a big thing where it

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shows like four confusing little cut scenes
and I'll say like Hector, and it's

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like, oh, I guess I
got Hector. But I made that by

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building a roller coaster, and like, so each area you got to kind

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of figure out what the main overarching
goal is. And for this one,

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who was making this dragon roller coaster? So I had to fly around and

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this flying near stuff. Stuff happens, you fly near stuff, something happens

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big, yeah, like Hector,
all right? And then then I went

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to Yeah, so I made the
roller coaster, and then there was another

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one where it was like a wedding
for a bunch of weird looking things and

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you had to like dip down.
You had to take all these waiter goblins

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or something into the water the ocean, and they would fill up little wine

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glasses with the water, and then
you had to give them to everyone in

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the wedding party, and then they
had to get married, and then you

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save another snake or something. So
I think I kind of figured out what's

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going on with that. Yeah,
yeah, So I think I'm going to

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keep playing, and I I feel
better about the game now than I did

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when we did the click sure.
Yeah, yeah, but it's like I'm

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not inherently opposed to directionless games.
Yeah, there's just something about that one

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that that just rubbed me the wrong
way because it just right off the bat,

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it's just like here you go,
and it's not even I don't know,

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like I really liked Proteus and there's
not that much to Proteus. Oh

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well, you're right minute the minute, you're right. Yeah. I mean

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there's you know, obviously there it's
telling a thing. You know, some

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stuff happens in Protect. But but
definitely if you sit down with that game

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for two minutes, you're going to
be like, it's still I just I

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walk exactly. Yeah, And and
this struck me as like somehow more aimless

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than that seems at first plush.
And it's you know, because i'd seen

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the game in preview phase, like
I kind of knew some of that stuff,

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like I saw the roller coaster at
one point, but it was just

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like I don't know, like I
know that that stuff exists. I just

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don't know that I'm having enough fun
controlling the long mover to want to do

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this. Yeah, it problem.
You don't really know what the end goal

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is or anything. I don't know
how long it need to be rescuing these

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snakes. But as a thing to
pick up and think around with a little

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bit, it's it's nice, it
looks good, it sounds good. It

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doesn't sound like you have necessarily gotten
this far. But did I hear there's

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actually something that you unlock later on
in that game that is kind of different

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than everything else you do in that
game, or did I dream that up?

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That sounds like I'm kind of seen
yet some kind of hidden level that's

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like kind of turns the whole thing
on its head. Now it's all been

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kind of the same, dude,
squiggly stuff. Okay until your board,

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all right, play well, keep
plugging away. You unlock Drive Club,

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Yeah, okay, drive Club ho
Hokem Edition, Yeah, Hookem. There's

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no no open hookem containers and in
a moving vehicle astly not No, it's

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I guess the law. But even
in Denver. Yeah, outside of that,

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I played just a ton of Diablo
three, and Holy Lorid, that

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game is really good. And you
know, I've talked before about how I

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never really had a PC that could
play games growing up, so I never

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played deal This is your first time
with Diablo three, Yeah, Like I

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always knew they were console ports of
like Diablo, Like there's a PlayStation version

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and stuff, but I was like, ah, I doubt this is the

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right way to play this game,
And so it was. Actually that was

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a surprisingly good version of that game. Yeah, for much the same reason

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that Diablo three works on coles,
Like when they made it direct control,

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it was actually neat. Are you
talking about Diablo one? Yeah? On

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the PlayStation, yeah, yeah,
that was actually it was actually pretty good.

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They never put out two did they
think. I remember, I remember

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that PlayStation release being kind of a
big deal, like a lot of people

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I knew played it. Yeah,
I don't know. I didn't play it

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that much. I just remember being
like surprised by the controls and I'm like,

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oh, this this works. Yeah. I think the thing that kind

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of opened me up to Diablo on
the whole is like, you know,

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everyone talked about when Borderlands was crying
out that it's gonna be a first person

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shooter but with like Diablo type lut
stuff. I don't think i'd really played

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much in many games with like a
lute system like that. Yeah, And

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I loved that element of Borderlands,
you know, like just oh my god,

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look at this gun. Oh this
is better, like comparing stats and

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all this stuff and Diablo man,
uh, way more slots to look at,

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way more things to compare, putting
gyms and helms and wearing all this

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crap and like it's all done really
well as far as like junking stuff,

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like oh, I'll just go through
it, like this all looks like crap.

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I'll hit AR three on it a
bunch and then I can sell it

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all at once. The co op
I've been doing the whole game with my

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sister. We've been streaming on Twitch
and it's just super easy as far as

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you know, keeping our characters together
and everything like warping to her and you

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know, gifting items and things.
It's just it's so so polished and so

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well made that I'm just absolutely loving
it. Yeah, we love are I

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want to say I'm thirty okay,
yeah, yeah, So I'm just got

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to like act two. I think, oh wow, so we're playing on

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extreme or hard or expert is expert
that's the highest that you can play off

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the bed. That's what I'm doing. We're an expert, and so I

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guess we're leveling that faster than normal
or whatever. You get a big exp

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bonus and stuff. Yeah, it's
it's fantastic. It's I'm absolutely loving that

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game. So I'm getting legendaries in
my mailbox. Yeah yeah. Is that

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part of the Nemesis system. No, well, it's it's one of the

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things that is new to this version
of the game and that you so you

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might have in your inventory just items
that say a gift for like user name

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for yes, and it's already pre
addressed. You just hit a button to

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send it. Okay, so that's
what's happening. It's like stuff finding those

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with your name on them and they're
hitting a button and sending it to your

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game. Does that mean if if
you find something like that, you can't

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use it yourself. You can only
send can only send it. I don't

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even know what it is. You're
just like, it's I'm like level twelve.

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I don't think I've found on of
those. Like it's kind of a

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weird, dumb thing because like you
don't know what it is. You don't

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get to like specify who you send
it to. You just get an eye

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him and it says like here,
hit it to send it. You're like,

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all right, and it's it's just
a random person Internet, do busy

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work for you? Well, somebody
on your friends. There's someone on your

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friends and I think can also be
someone you've played the game with recent players

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or whatever. Also, and then
why think that exists? They get a

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thing in their mailbox that says so
and so set you an item and a

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legendary item, and they're like,
okay, well I've gotten like five or

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six from the same person, which
there might be that many like that person

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might not have anyone else on their
friends list was playing the game. Okay,

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wow, I got a sugar Daddy
then, uh, you know,

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so it was I saw Greg Miller
of IGN fame on Twitter. Uh he

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he has his friends list full still, right, he didn't cut it down

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like I did. Uh, So
it sounds like he is just getting fucking

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legendaries non stuff. So if those
if a lot of those people on his

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list don't have a lot of other
friends playing Yallow on their list, they're

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a man for him. What a
fucking legendary racket he's set up exactly,

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because I can tell you just from
the like half a dozen that I've gotten,

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like most of that gear was like
at least twice, if not three

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times better than some of the stuff
I had, Like in terms of armor

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values and just basic stats. I
got some stuff that was really good and

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some stuff that was useless. Well
again, I'm earl like I'm not.

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I haven't got a point where I'm
getting most of the most of the my

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way through the game. Like I
got to level fifty one or something before

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the game was out, So there
was there were two other people on my

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list that were playing it or three, and you were one of them.

406
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I sent you something at one point, and yes, I got like three

407
00:24:14.440 --> 00:24:18.079
things at that point. Now I'm
getting more that the game now that the

408
00:24:18.079 --> 00:24:21.880
game is out. And then I
finally saw the Nemesis system in action also

409
00:24:22.359 --> 00:24:26.000
where there was just like a monster
appeared and just said Nemesis killed this player,

410
00:24:26.480 --> 00:24:27.160
like all right, and then you
fight it. Then you fight it

411
00:24:27.200 --> 00:24:30.960
and it dies and you're like all
right, it drops and okay, so

412
00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:33.519
you get dropped from that. But
then also the person who's had no idea

413
00:24:33.599 --> 00:24:36.079
what the person might gets my understanding. I mean, I think it's maybe

414
00:24:36.119 --> 00:24:38.240
only one item, but my understanding
is that like the Nemesis will bounce from

415
00:24:38.240 --> 00:24:41.279
player to player, right like if
it kills the next person in the chain,

416
00:24:42.240 --> 00:24:45.839
it'll didn't go on. It persists. It's not like it's a one

417
00:24:45.920 --> 00:24:48.319
done type thing. And I think
everybody who's ever fought that thing when it

418
00:24:48.359 --> 00:24:52.519
finally dies and gets stuff out of
it interesting, I think that's the case.

419
00:24:52.799 --> 00:24:55.119
That's cool. I mean, it's
a weird system. It's it's like

420
00:24:55.119 --> 00:24:56.960
a weird like the stuff they did
specific for this version of the game,

421
00:24:56.960 --> 00:25:02.799
like that male stuff and the Nemesis
stuff is just like weird social experimental type

422
00:25:02.880 --> 00:25:06.759
stuff that I don't I don't mind
it. I mean basically, ever since

423
00:25:06.799 --> 00:25:07.720
the advent of Wow, the ovel
has always felt like, you know,

424
00:25:07.759 --> 00:25:11.200
it's got the it's got the like
loot driven underpinnings of an MMO, but

425
00:25:11.279 --> 00:25:15.799
without the empty Yeah, yes,
it's empty. It's without the large scale

426
00:25:15.880 --> 00:25:18.359
player interaction. So like this is
kind of a way to get a little

427
00:25:18.359 --> 00:25:21.400
bit of that back, I guess, Yeah, sure it isn't the Crusader

428
00:25:21.400 --> 00:25:27.079
class new to this edition expansion.
Oh okay, it's great. That's that's

429
00:25:27.119 --> 00:25:30.759
what I'm That's what I'm playing.
It's the skills they put in there.

430
00:25:30.799 --> 00:25:33.240
It's like you only have so many
slots or whatever, and I keep unlocking

431
00:25:33.240 --> 00:25:34.319
this stuff and I'm like, ah, I love everything I'm using, but

432
00:25:34.359 --> 00:25:38.319
this sounds awesome. Like I can
like jump up there and branch elective mode

433
00:25:38.319 --> 00:25:41.480
I did. I like that a
lot. Yeah, because then you're just

434
00:25:41.519 --> 00:25:44.839
like you don't have to be pulled
into one per tree or whatever. Yeah.

435
00:25:45.079 --> 00:25:48.319
Yeah, it's it's the The cool
thing about that game, like I

436
00:25:48.319 --> 00:25:52.599
think top to bottom is that they
just made it fun, you know that

437
00:25:52.680 --> 00:25:56.200
they just you know, they made
it like convenient and exciting, you know,

438
00:25:56.640 --> 00:26:00.079
like every single skill you get is
this flashy thing that destroys a ton

439
00:26:00.119 --> 00:26:04.160
of shit. You're fucking launching out
of the sky or spinning around or just

440
00:26:04.240 --> 00:26:08.279
making barbarian barbarians show up and kill
stuff for you, and you know,

441
00:26:08.359 --> 00:26:14.240
just like tables and chairs and skeletons
are just fucking blasting apart every step of

442
00:26:14.279 --> 00:26:15.640
the way. But then it's like, you know, yeah, you can

443
00:26:15.680 --> 00:26:18.359
warp right to people. When you
join multiplayer games. It matches everybody's levels,

444
00:26:18.519 --> 00:26:22.480
you know, appropriately, so everyone's
having like a fine experience. Like

445
00:26:22.519 --> 00:26:26.799
you could argue that, like that's
actually no fun because it means the game

446
00:26:26.920 --> 00:26:30.720
is super dumb uh and and that
it's going to be the same experience whether

447
00:26:30.720 --> 00:26:33.039
you're level one or level seventy to
some extent because the way it levels,

448
00:26:33.160 --> 00:26:37.559
But it's still I don't know,
it's it's just it's really convenient and really

449
00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:41.240
fun to play. Like I hit
seventy, I got to like Paragon levels

450
00:26:41.279 --> 00:26:45.119
six or something, and I'll probably
keep playing it. I don't know why

451
00:26:45.160 --> 00:26:48.359
at this point, but I might
as well. I mean, you said

452
00:26:48.359 --> 00:26:51.519
you're doing other stuff at the same
time, right, yeah, yeah,

453
00:26:51.599 --> 00:26:55.440
usually throw I don't know, stream
on or yeah, something like that,

454
00:26:55.480 --> 00:26:59.839
but it's it's harder with you know
that my TV is not necessarily near another

455
00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:03.799
screen in the same way like the
PC version would be. So I was

456
00:27:03.839 --> 00:27:07.839
thinking about going back to the PC
version a little bit because the PC versions

457
00:27:07.880 --> 00:27:11.559
obviously gonna get the patches first.
They've been they have a public test realm

458
00:27:11.599 --> 00:27:15.599
for version two point one that they've
come out and said it is going to

459
00:27:15.640 --> 00:27:18.279
come to consoles, and then ahead
of the release, like there was some

460
00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:22.039
post on like the Xbox you know
blog or whatever that was like, we're

461
00:27:22.119 --> 00:27:26.200
gonna patch really close to day and
date. We're gonna try to get it

462
00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:29.480
down as tight as possible. Microsoft's
working with us, and I think Sony

463
00:27:29.640 --> 00:27:33.920
then kind of said the same thing
or something along those lines. But and

464
00:27:33.240 --> 00:27:36.640
you know, it might not be
instantaneous, but they're gonna at least get

465
00:27:36.680 --> 00:27:41.039
those updates. And this next update
has like seasons, like you will start

466
00:27:41.039 --> 00:27:45.200
a character and play in that season, and then at the end of that

467
00:27:45.279 --> 00:27:48.720
season you will start a new character, you know, so then lets them

468
00:27:48.720 --> 00:27:52.640
do leaderboards and stuff like that,
Like they're changing the rift system to add

469
00:27:52.640 --> 00:27:57.240
these greater rifts and a bunch of
additional crazy shit basically, like I went

470
00:27:57.240 --> 00:28:00.319
and read through the list today,
it sounds like they're just adding ton of

471
00:28:00.319 --> 00:28:03.240
really fucking crazy shit. And the
stuff they added in Reprit of Souls was

472
00:28:03.279 --> 00:28:07.480
already nuts, like the adventure mode
and and and the riff stuff that they

473
00:28:07.480 --> 00:28:10.920
added at that point. So like
that's that all sounds pretty cool. It's

474
00:28:11.000 --> 00:28:15.640
nice dary jewels. Gems, Yeah, gems that do stuff like when you

475
00:28:15.680 --> 00:28:18.920
socket it, it does two thousand
percent poison damage to something, you know,

476
00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:22.960
so weird. It was just one
of the example gems they showed.

477
00:28:22.759 --> 00:28:29.440
Uh so, yeah, just fucking
crazy shit. The colon the video games.

478
00:28:30.279 --> 00:28:33.640
That's nice to see this level of
post release support. Yeah, yeah,

479
00:28:33.720 --> 00:28:37.559
and that's especially that's you know,
there's probably still we probably still have

480
00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:44.599
not yet seen the last Diablo two
patch, right, I hope, baby,

481
00:28:44.599 --> 00:28:47.519
it's going to be some exploit that
turns up then I got we fixed

482
00:28:47.559 --> 00:28:49.680
it. Sure. Yeah. They
are pretty legendary for that stuff. Yeah.

483
00:28:51.160 --> 00:28:55.079
I just I wonder if anymore like
paid content is on the way,

484
00:28:55.519 --> 00:28:57.160
like another expansion, Yeah, because
you know, people hit the level cap

485
00:28:57.200 --> 00:29:00.079
and then they start going through Paragon
levels and I'm sure you know people max

486
00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:03.559
that stuff out at this point.
But right at a certain point, there's

487
00:29:03.559 --> 00:29:06.319
still only five acts worth of stuff
to fight your way through. I think

488
00:29:06.319 --> 00:29:08.920
that that's probably why they're creating the
season stuff is because it gives you a

489
00:29:08.920 --> 00:29:14.640
fresh character without your paragon levels to
create that level playing field for a set

490
00:29:14.640 --> 00:29:15.920
period of time. Yeah, just
for people that want to compete. I

491
00:29:15.920 --> 00:29:18.880
just want to see you, like, you know, some new monsters.

492
00:29:18.400 --> 00:29:21.880
Yeah, sure, the area that
they're different, they're actually they're adding a

493
00:29:21.880 --> 00:29:23.960
new tile set with this patch,
something that was that they had created.

494
00:29:25.519 --> 00:29:27.440
Shit, they had created it for
Act five, but it didn't make it

495
00:29:27.480 --> 00:29:30.559
in. So it's now just one
of the random rifts. Okay that shows

496
00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:33.920
up is the cesspools. So it's
a new area. Well I'm not good

497
00:29:33.920 --> 00:29:37.640
on them. Yeah, that's nuts. So yeah, that's that's all pretty

498
00:29:37.680 --> 00:29:41.079
cool. I don't know, you
know a lot of people fucking talked a

499
00:29:41.119 --> 00:29:44.359
lot of shit about that game when
it initially came out. I thought it

500
00:29:44.400 --> 00:29:45.960
was pretty good at the time.
I had a latch fun with it.

501
00:29:47.039 --> 00:29:48.559
Yeah, and you know, just
like the stuff they've done since, like

502
00:29:48.599 --> 00:29:52.079
it's just they just they're making like
a playground, you know, they're just

503
00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:55.240
making like a fucking Skeleton Crushing Playground. I mean, I was watching new

504
00:29:55.240 --> 00:29:57.799
play it the other day with some
people, which is pretty rare for you.

505
00:29:57.880 --> 00:30:00.640
But yeah, I don't know what
it is about the console version of

506
00:30:00.680 --> 00:30:03.480
that game that makes me feel okay, just randomly jumping into fools games.

507
00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:07.720
These people are okay probably, or
it's just like or it's just like I

508
00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:10.960
don't know something about your experience.
It's just so much more casual to me.

509
00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:14.519
It's like these people don't really care
about Diablow otherwise, They've be playing

510
00:30:14.559 --> 00:30:17.319
it on a PC. So I'll
jump in for twenty minutes and they and

511
00:30:17.359 --> 00:30:19.559
they can't type to you exactly like
it talk to you very well exactly,

512
00:30:19.640 --> 00:30:22.440
so you like I could just go
do my thing and and you know,

513
00:30:22.480 --> 00:30:26.920
we're just like grinding out bounties and
it's actually fun. But I was watching

514
00:30:26.920 --> 00:30:29.559
you play it though, and and
first of all, the little colored rings

515
00:30:29.559 --> 00:30:33.440
they put under each character's feet like
it's an arcade game, it's really weird.

516
00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:34.680
But then I was watching you play
it with those people, and it

517
00:30:34.680 --> 00:30:37.720
made me realize, like, is
this the modern gauntlet that everybody has been

518
00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:42.119
waiting for? It? Like,
it also makes your PS four light shining

519
00:30:42.160 --> 00:30:45.400
that color too, Yeah, whatever, that color that's cool. But yeah,

520
00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:48.119
like it it just suddenly struck me
as this like kind of old school

521
00:30:48.160 --> 00:30:51.720
overhead four player. Yeah, I
mean, you know, run around and

522
00:30:51.759 --> 00:30:53.640
kill stuff type a kind of always
was that, yeah, but but it

523
00:30:55.400 --> 00:30:57.160
I feel like more so now because
you can kind of ignore a lot of

524
00:30:57.160 --> 00:31:02.200
the loot and stat based stuff.
It's true, like they they've simplified those

525
00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:07.119
systems to a point where you know, I mean, you can't hear it,

526
00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:08.720
but yeah, yeah, so so
do you remember if those up and

527
00:31:08.759 --> 00:31:14.519
down arrows were in the PC version
initially with threeper Okay, I think because

528
00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:17.599
you know, you used to have
to eyeball your stats really compare things that

529
00:31:17.599 --> 00:31:21.799
they added after the fact. Like
I almost feel like I'm cheating myself or

530
00:31:21.839 --> 00:31:23.519
missing something because I'll just still go
look at the real stats. Well I

531
00:31:23.559 --> 00:31:27.039
have been, but because it's because
there's so many things that don't necessarily get

532
00:31:27.039 --> 00:31:30.119
represented there, Like you know,
this does additional damage to this one,

533
00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:34.079
you know, crusader specific ability or
this one. Like I'm a sucker for

534
00:31:34.559 --> 00:31:40.559
increased movement and attack speed because it's
one of the things where it's like,

535
00:31:40.599 --> 00:31:41.839
you know, like I just want
to get the shipped done faster so I

536
00:31:41.880 --> 00:31:47.480
can do more of it. So
like, if you tell me that these

537
00:31:47.480 --> 00:31:49.640
boots have twelve percent movement speed and
they're not the armor is not quite as

538
00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:52.039
good, I'll still take them.
Yeah, you know it could because I'm

539
00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:56.200
still early on, so I'm just
finding stuff. It is definitively way better

540
00:31:56.480 --> 00:31:59.519
than what I've got. But it
feels weird in a game like that to

541
00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:01.079
not even look at numbers. You
know, it's just like, well that

542
00:32:01.079 --> 00:32:05.079
one has two up green arrows,
but this one has three, so we

543
00:32:05.119 --> 00:32:08.079
equip and just move on. You
know. Yeah, yeah, I guess

544
00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:12.279
you'd call it streamline. It's weird. I feel like gems don't matter as

545
00:32:12.359 --> 00:32:15.640
much as they used to. Like
I know, I spent at one point

546
00:32:15.680 --> 00:32:22.920
I was in the auction house buying
red gems. Yes, I did a

547
00:32:22.920 --> 00:32:25.079
lot of that and and and stuff
like that just to socket into weapons,

548
00:32:25.079 --> 00:32:28.440
but that was back when they were
waste in Gier with the loot drops.

549
00:32:28.599 --> 00:32:30.359
Generally, it's like you just weren't
finding as much amazing gear, so you

550
00:32:30.440 --> 00:32:35.000
kind of needed like anything you could
find, like a gem to increase,

551
00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:37.799
like your v lout you had that
was good, like anything you could make

552
00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:39.000
it better. Yeah, and now
I've got a ton of gold and I've

553
00:32:39.000 --> 00:32:44.559
got you know, like Jeweler level
level twelve, so I can make whatever

554
00:32:44.599 --> 00:32:47.519
these super high tier gems are.
But they're not that useful, like that

555
00:32:47.599 --> 00:32:51.960
much strength, like a hundred strength
of the grand scheme of things just doesn't

556
00:32:51.960 --> 00:32:54.400
seem to matter as much as it
used to. I don't know. Yeah,

557
00:32:54.480 --> 00:32:59.279
maybe just it's because I'm finding so
much better loot that isn't socketed,

558
00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:02.160
that it that it just goes that
way. But yeah, that's a it's

559
00:33:02.200 --> 00:33:06.319
a fantastic fucking game. Yeah,
the way people I know who've been talking

560
00:33:06.319 --> 00:33:07.680
about it, like I wouldn't be
surprised to see this version showing up on

561
00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:12.359
like people's into the year lists,
and people seem to really be into it.

562
00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:15.640
Yeah, in this in this predestiny
era, right, Yeah, I

563
00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:20.200
get they're loot fixed. That's like
the secret that that'll that's the test tried

564
00:33:20.319 --> 00:33:22.799
is if when something new comes out
that is also a shooter, ye,

565
00:33:23.079 --> 00:33:29.240
does the Diablo scene dry up or
not? How many loot games can you

566
00:33:29.240 --> 00:33:30.839
handle it one time? Yeah,
there's some story out there that I saw.

567
00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:36.160
I was like someone from Bungee saying
like they don't understand people that are

568
00:33:36.200 --> 00:33:38.559
like worried about that game not having
a lot of content because like I don't

569
00:33:38.599 --> 00:33:40.880
understand because like we've been working on
it for a really long time and it's

570
00:33:40.880 --> 00:33:44.480
got a ton of stuff in there. I don't know what, Like it's

571
00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:46.519
the big stame we ever made.
I don't know. And like I think

572
00:33:46.519 --> 00:33:51.240
about that and I don't. I
kind of want to take it two ways.

573
00:33:51.240 --> 00:33:52.839
It's like, you know, and
you take it a face value and

574
00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:53.480
go, well, okay, great, you know, there'll be a ton

575
00:33:53.519 --> 00:33:57.519
of content there. But then I
like actually start to think about it and

576
00:33:57.519 --> 00:34:01.200
go like, heyle, it's not
that big, right. And also the

577
00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:05.480
nature like if you if you put
out alot grindy game that was slightly bigger

578
00:34:05.480 --> 00:34:08.039
than Halo three, that'd be real. That's kind of scary. That's sort

579
00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:12.800
of a scary idea, you know, especially because the nature of the gameplay

580
00:34:12.960 --> 00:34:16.559
in Destiny is maybe not you could
argue, is not as interesting as it

581
00:34:16.599 --> 00:34:21.159
was in Halo, where you've got
a story driving you and like really robust

582
00:34:21.400 --> 00:34:23.599
kind of enemy AI and combat encounters, you know, and in this you

583
00:34:23.639 --> 00:34:29.239
are collecting drops, like you know, you're getting five circuit boards or you

584
00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:30.400
know, you're going through the same
area as over and over doing kind of

585
00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:34.480
mundane repeatable tasks. Yeah. Yeah, and if all if if there are

586
00:34:34.519 --> 00:34:37.320
only a small handful of areas to
do that stuff in, that's kind of

587
00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:42.119
scary. But that's ways off.
Yeah, not Actually, it's not that

588
00:34:42.199 --> 00:34:45.920
far off. Two weeks. Yeah, that's two weeks. I think it's

589
00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:49.599
two weeks. The SIMS comes out
and then Destiny comes out the following week.

590
00:34:50.159 --> 00:34:52.760
Matt Madden's out, right, Madden
is out. Madden came out first,

591
00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:58.119
right, Madden is out? Is
Madden is still officially the Harbinger.

592
00:34:58.440 --> 00:35:00.199
Yeah, but the fourth quarter,
by the way, there are video games

593
00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:04.480
again, Madden brings it back.
So we're in that now. Is that

594
00:35:04.519 --> 00:35:07.000
today? That's that's today? And
I think I thought because quickly when I

595
00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:08.920
went up last week. Yeah,
but it went up like Thursday, so

596
00:35:08.920 --> 00:35:13.559
I think it was like the Thursday
before the Tuesday's right, so say Madden

597
00:35:13.679 --> 00:35:20.719
Tuesday. I don't know, Mortal, Mortal, Madden remember like Tuesday.

598
00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:22.239
Yeah, I feel like yeah,
used to put like you know, because

599
00:35:22.199 --> 00:35:25.400
it was it was like Ozzy Osbourne
on the roof of the RADI City Music

600
00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:29.039
Hall or whatever the hell I mean
back in like in the back in the

601
00:35:29.039 --> 00:35:31.280
game spot hey day, Like we
used to cover like midnight Madden launches,

602
00:35:31.400 --> 00:35:34.440
right. I would go to those
and there'd be people in the parking lot

603
00:35:34.519 --> 00:35:37.559
throwing footballs around and stuff like I
went to like every Madden Midnight release from

604
00:35:37.599 --> 00:35:39.400
like I don't know, probably two
thousand and one to two thousand and seven.

605
00:35:39.559 --> 00:35:42.599
I feel it was like, is
that kind of when it started dropping

606
00:35:42.639 --> 00:35:45.480
off, like maybe hype around the
seven that sounds about right to me.

607
00:35:45.559 --> 00:35:49.159
Yeah, I don't know, Like
and maybe we're just so detached from it

608
00:35:49.920 --> 00:35:53.639
because we don't run that kind of
live show operation and because who does uh

609
00:35:53.679 --> 00:35:58.280
and and that just doesn't exist or
it still exists and we're not seeing it.

610
00:35:58.320 --> 00:36:00.320
But I also get the impression that
maybe it just does exist because it

611
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:04.159
was expensive to put on and who
really cares, right well, you know,

612
00:36:04.199 --> 00:36:06.880
and I took the I took the
giant production of that, like Galla

613
00:36:07.039 --> 00:36:09.519
three minute commercial they put out a
couple of weeks ago, as like like

614
00:36:09.719 --> 00:36:12.880
trying to breee some life back,
you know, trying to make it into

615
00:36:13.079 --> 00:36:16.000
an event again, where it's like
it has just turned into like a fairly

616
00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:22.639
big expected release every year as opposed
to this giant Yeah, unless they can

617
00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:28.079
figure out a way to get in
front of people that wouldn't necessarily be the

618
00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:30.000
people that'd be following it, then
they could probably predict their launch week sales

619
00:36:30.079 --> 00:36:34.199
year to year, writing you know, X thousands of units or whatever,

620
00:36:34.199 --> 00:36:37.159
because it's just like you're the number
of people that are obsessed with Madden and

621
00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:38.960
needs no every year. And it's
a high number, but it's still a

622
00:36:38.960 --> 00:36:43.239
flat number. Could be higher.
I don't know. Do they still have

623
00:36:43.280 --> 00:36:46.159
the truck stick always? I don't
know. The truck stick is is like

624
00:36:46.239 --> 00:36:50.159
then now forever? As far as
I'm concerned, it's that anything like the

625
00:36:50.199 --> 00:36:53.039
hit stick? It is? Yeah, sure, except you truck. Does

626
00:36:53.039 --> 00:36:59.599
it still have run stuff in gang
tackles? Yes? All right, good,

627
00:37:00.119 --> 00:37:04.400
Yes, that's I don't play games
that don't have those. Diablo's a

628
00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:08.039
truck stick just right to stick your
way through tables. That better to truck

629
00:37:08.079 --> 00:37:10.880
than hit. Sure, probably is. I mean, do you want to

630
00:37:10.960 --> 00:37:15.199
keep on trucking or keep on hitting? What does the bumper stick? Or

631
00:37:15.239 --> 00:37:17.840
say, Brad before you hit you
have to truck? They say, yeah,

632
00:37:19.119 --> 00:37:22.920
exactly on my bicep you got a
truck before you can hit. Yeah.

633
00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:27.599
I think that's how they do it
in Duel. Have you not seen

634
00:37:27.639 --> 00:37:30.199
dual? Duel? Has anyone seen
Dual? What was great? I don't

635
00:37:30.199 --> 00:37:31.079
know what that is? It was
it was. Yeah, it's a movie.

636
00:37:31.079 --> 00:37:36.639
It's Steven Spielberg movie before Jaws.
I think it's his first feature film.

637
00:37:36.719 --> 00:37:39.639
Yeah, yea truck. Yeah yeah, it's like a horror movie about

638
00:37:39.639 --> 00:37:44.079
a truck. Yeah. Yeah,
yeah, that's right. Yeah's being stalked

639
00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:46.400
by a truck. Is it like
a sentient truck. I think there's supposed

640
00:37:46.400 --> 00:37:47.800
to be a guy in it,
but I like to think it's just the

641
00:37:47.800 --> 00:37:53.360
truck. Yeah, it's really angry
truck. It's like maximum Maximum pretty much

642
00:37:55.159 --> 00:37:59.320
maxim move over drive. Based on
that Stephen King story about I think it

643
00:37:59.400 --> 00:38:04.800
is about autonomous trucks. I think
it is probably. Yeah. The story

644
00:38:04.880 --> 00:38:07.280
is called Trucks, is it.
Yep, that's a good name. The

645
00:38:07.360 --> 00:38:12.079
next No, it's just trucks.
Trucks stick. That was written in the

646
00:38:12.119 --> 00:38:15.159
seventies before you were allowed to replace
c K s with X. Yeah.

647
00:38:15.239 --> 00:38:19.480
This is when people were earnest about
things and actually liked stuff legitimately, like

648
00:38:19.679 --> 00:38:28.079
CB radios o bud Wiser, Dan, Yeah, anything else that was most

649
00:38:28.119 --> 00:38:30.840
of my weekend? Does that?
Does that the extent of your gaming diet

650
00:38:30.559 --> 00:38:34.400
that that took up most of my
time this weekend? Right? Very good,

651
00:38:35.599 --> 00:38:39.840
Drew? Hi, Hello, I
got an Xbox Wait what? Yeh?

652
00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:49.000
Holy shit? Your bud with all
the kids? Yeah, you play

653
00:38:49.039 --> 00:38:52.239
as a lizard guy man. The
the the emails that continued to come in

654
00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:55.400
about your choice of Xbox, those
people are going to be really sad Jade

655
00:38:55.440 --> 00:39:01.559
Empire all night long. Yeah,
I got the L four hundred black really

656
00:39:01.760 --> 00:39:06.559
yeah? Wow? No to connect. No Connect prompted you to with the

657
00:39:06.639 --> 00:39:09.800
even with the forthcoming deals, I
mean prompted you just go for it.

658
00:39:10.920 --> 00:39:16.559
Because on the twenty the twenty fourth
is my budgeting day. Okay, So

659
00:39:16.599 --> 00:39:21.519
I got my new budget for the
month and then I blew a lot of

660
00:39:21.559 --> 00:39:24.119
it on an Xbox. Okay,
all right, because I didn't want to

661
00:39:24.119 --> 00:39:27.199
get to the end of it or
halfway through it and go like, oh

662
00:39:27.239 --> 00:39:29.840
I don't have enough money to get
it. I have I don't know is

663
00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:32.519
this is this is this is specifically
like Destiny Prepp Yes, okay, yeah,

664
00:39:32.599 --> 00:39:36.159
okay, Also that if you're telling
me I needed a new console in

665
00:39:36.199 --> 00:39:37.480
time for Destiny. This makes a
whole lot more sense. Oh, yes,

666
00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:39.320
okay, yes, I thought that
was a give no, no,

667
00:39:39.199 --> 00:39:42.320
no, no, I thought I
thought it was. I thought Halo was

668
00:39:42.360 --> 00:39:45.400
the objective. I mean, that's
why I picked the Xbox over at PS

669
00:39:45.480 --> 00:39:51.360
four, because I knew I would
eventually want to play Halo. I mean,

670
00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:54.159
I can always get another console.
I guess if I get that's you

671
00:39:54.199 --> 00:39:57.800
know, that's that's the that's the
way to be as far as I think

672
00:39:57.800 --> 00:40:00.400
the rest of us are concerned.
Yeah, well just get them, just

673
00:40:00.440 --> 00:40:02.760
have them get him at some point. Yeah. I get everything on launch

674
00:40:02.800 --> 00:40:07.199
day every time, even well launch
titles that I want. Yeah, I

675
00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:08.880
mean, I mean, yeah,
like it just makes work easier. The

676
00:40:08.920 --> 00:40:13.559
lugger console. Yes, that week
before the Xbox One came out. That

677
00:40:13.639 --> 00:40:16.800
was horrible to carry those things around
for us carrying before they're out. That

678
00:40:16.880 --> 00:40:20.679
thing barely fit in my tinbuck two. The holy shit, Christ, I

679
00:40:20.719 --> 00:40:22.559
think is you know? Carrying it
out the bus was a little bit of

680
00:40:22.639 --> 00:40:28.800
pain in the ass. My car
almost flipped. Also, I had a

681
00:40:28.800 --> 00:40:31.280
bunch of Amazon credit, so I
was able to apply that, which is

682
00:40:31.280 --> 00:40:35.559
great. Yeah, and when I
ordered it, it said pay six bucks

683
00:40:35.599 --> 00:40:40.440
more and get it today. What
it arrived seven hours after I bought it?

684
00:40:40.639 --> 00:40:45.360
Wow for six dollars. The Internet
is magic. That's we live in

685
00:40:45.360 --> 00:40:49.599
the future now you live in San
Francisco. That's also feel I feel I

686
00:40:49.599 --> 00:40:52.280
feel a little bit tingly right now. Yeah, that's like that's some Cosmo

687
00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:55.960
dot Com. Wow. Yeah,
Snickers just throw throw candy bar in there

688
00:40:57.000 --> 00:41:00.400
with no no, no, actually
make them deliver the candy bar step yeah.

689
00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:01.880
Total. Yeah. Did you have
you have you got? Did you

690
00:41:01.920 --> 00:41:06.800
pick up any games for it?
Smart? Well? You have gold still

691
00:41:06.880 --> 00:41:08.760
from your other h your account,
right, yeah, if you're still gold,

692
00:41:08.760 --> 00:41:12.719
there's some games with gold thing.
There's probably some stuff that's free to

693
00:41:12.760 --> 00:41:15.599
down. You can get Crimson Dragon
okay, yeah, hello Spartan Assault.

694
00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:21.960
I want to saying the hottest of
download games. I look through their games

695
00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:25.719
list in the store, m and
uh. I think the only things I

696
00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:31.280
would consider buying would be Team Raider
because I never played it. It's great,

697
00:41:31.280 --> 00:41:36.480
Wolf and Stein pretty good, and
the Golf Club. What about Titan

698
00:41:36.480 --> 00:41:40.920
Fall? I played on three sixty
Yeah, do you like it? Yeah?

699
00:41:42.320 --> 00:41:45.519
If you've that was one of those
games where I bought. I bought

700
00:41:45.719 --> 00:41:49.840
Shooter season passes last year like a
motherfucker, like I bought the Titan Fall

701
00:41:49.880 --> 00:41:52.400
season pass, I bought the Call
of Duty Goes season pass, and for

702
00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:58.719
some in some like fit of like
weird fever status, I bought the Battlefield

703
00:41:58.719 --> 00:42:02.039
for premium. Uh, because there
was like a hot two week period there

704
00:42:02.039 --> 00:42:06.239
where I was playing a lot of
Battlefield that seemed like good idea, and

705
00:42:06.280 --> 00:42:07.800
now here we are they're releasing content. It's like, oh, we announced

706
00:42:07.800 --> 00:42:10.960
the next set of maps for any
one of these games, doesn't matter which

707
00:42:12.000 --> 00:42:15.599
one, And I was like,
I fucking who cares? You're not keeping

708
00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:20.639
up on the Alien modes and Call
of Duty Ghosts absolutely not. I don

709
00:42:20.639 --> 00:42:22.599
a looaded the first two. But
there's one of those things where, like,

710
00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:23.719
you know, months later, I
realized, like, oh, right,

711
00:42:23.960 --> 00:42:28.360
I paid for those fucking maps.
What a dumb ass. Well I

712
00:42:28.400 --> 00:42:30.800
should go down a little them all
and look at him and then play him

713
00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:34.000
and go like I don't like any
of these Well didn't they ghosted all the

714
00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:37.320
stuff with like Michael Myers and like
Killer Clowns Matter Space or something like that.

715
00:42:37.400 --> 00:42:38.920
Yeah, there was like a weird
map that they did that I think

716
00:42:38.920 --> 00:42:44.400
has the Michael Myers thing. Yeah, and it just I think that I

717
00:42:44.599 --> 00:42:46.920
think that totally. For a second
when you said Michael Myers, I was

718
00:42:46.960 --> 00:42:52.159
thinking Michael Moore. I could not
figure out how that all the factor into

719
00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:55.159
that game. Every scan you get
for places with Michael Moore. Yeah,

720
00:42:55.199 --> 00:42:59.960
he's got some things to say about
the militarization of video games about it true

721
00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:06.880
hellscape God, Yeah, let's giving
the Michael Moore announcer pack where he's just

722
00:43:06.880 --> 00:43:12.960
fucking whining the whole time. I
knows. Yeah, well, every time

723
00:43:13.000 --> 00:43:16.599
you shoot one of these other players, someone loses their job. Look at

724
00:43:16.599 --> 00:43:22.239
my hat. It's this catchphrase.
Yeah yeah, look at my famous cash

725
00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:25.199
phrase, look at my hat.
Look at my hat. For change,

726
00:43:27.599 --> 00:43:30.280
I didn't I didn't stick it in
the news items because it's A it's rumored

727
00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:32.199
and B it's not a huge deal. But in addition to the games with

728
00:43:32.239 --> 00:43:36.519
Gold, like the free games,
it seems like there's some suggestion out there

729
00:43:36.559 --> 00:43:39.079
that they're going to start doing like
sort of trial periods for people who have

730
00:43:39.119 --> 00:43:42.880
gold. Really on the Xbox that's
cool, Like A I don't know if

731
00:43:42.880 --> 00:43:45.000
it came off the preview dashboard or
where, but there's a screenshot floating around

732
00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:49.599
out there of some wording on the
store where it basically implies that, like,

733
00:43:49.639 --> 00:43:52.199
if you're gold, it's like you
can play this game for twenty four

734
00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:54.320
hours for free before you have to
buy it. Wow. So yeah,

735
00:43:54.480 --> 00:44:01.159
some kind of interesting ways to access
program similar some extent. Anyone take the

736
00:44:01.360 --> 00:44:07.679
plunge on that. Huh No,
No, you would have conceivably gotten to

737
00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:15.719
play Madden five days early. Yeah
what that thirty percent off of already already

738
00:44:15.719 --> 00:44:16.719
have peckled to you? Okay,
all right, yeah, I guess you're

739
00:44:16.719 --> 00:44:19.880
done then, So yeah, I'm
good. Yeah. I just think it's

740
00:44:19.880 --> 00:44:22.119
like, you know, it's like
even like I just like I already have

741
00:44:22.119 --> 00:44:23.960
those games. I'm already done playing
all these games that you're giving people access

742
00:44:23.960 --> 00:44:28.800
to, Like that's not that's not
a valuable service. Not yet. Do

743
00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:30.360
you plug your TV into it?
Are you messing with all that stuff?

744
00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:32.480
I haven't yet. I just I
just well, you know, I guess

745
00:44:32.480 --> 00:44:37.920
without to connect that stuff, SPOT
like automatically becomes slightly less interesting. Yeah.

746
00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:38.840
I think the only reason I would
want to do it is to like

747
00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:44.920
not have to switch like press the
input button on my remote, right,

748
00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:47.519
but then I would have to grab
my controller and then click that, and

749
00:44:47.639 --> 00:44:51.280
but without without being able to use
the voice to one of them. They

750
00:44:51.360 --> 00:44:55.159
are adding a boot to TV option
two a DASH at some point. So

751
00:44:55.440 --> 00:44:59.920
I mean, I like it as
just a turn everything on system to where

752
00:45:00.039 --> 00:45:01.800
even if I'm playing PS four,
I will just turn on the Xbox because

753
00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:06.360
that turns on my surrounding receiver and
my TV. So I mean I use

754
00:45:06.440 --> 00:45:07.719
it for that. Yeah, my
dad really likes that feature. He's got

755
00:45:07.760 --> 00:45:13.000
an Xbox one and like just not
having to fiddle with the like five remotes

756
00:45:13.039 --> 00:45:15.559
that's sitting next to his recliner or
whatever. It doesn't turn my stuff on

757
00:45:15.639 --> 00:45:19.880
properly. Really, I have a
weird situation where if the I know,

758
00:45:19.880 --> 00:45:23.000
I'm pretty sure I've described it before, but if if the TV is turned

759
00:45:23.039 --> 00:45:27.920
on after the a V receiver,
there's no audio, so I have to

760
00:45:27.920 --> 00:45:32.199
power cycle the receiver to get audio. And so they need if they had

761
00:45:32.199 --> 00:45:36.920
a delay setting, like okay,
delayed you know, the activation of the

762
00:45:36.960 --> 00:45:42.320
receiver by two hundred milliseconds or you
know whatever, or two seconds or whatever

763
00:45:42.320 --> 00:45:45.239
you want to do, right,
that would actually solve the problem. But

764
00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:49.960
it basically means it's actually useless.
And I ranted into too many situations.

765
00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:52.320
I so I have it. I
have it turn on all this stuff anyway,

766
00:45:52.320 --> 00:45:54.159
because it's still you know, faster
or whatever. But it's almost always

767
00:45:54.199 --> 00:45:59.280
set to PS four, so I
still have to go change the input on

768
00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:04.039
it over to that at and then
I stopped it from turning everything off when

769
00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:06.559
I turned stuff off. That can
be a pain. Yeah, well,

770
00:46:06.639 --> 00:46:08.199
especially if like you, if you're
turning it off to play something else on

771
00:46:08.239 --> 00:46:10.519
a different system. It's just like, oh, well now I have to

772
00:46:10.519 --> 00:46:15.239
turn all the ship back on.
That was dumb. Yeah, well,

773
00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:21.199
welcome to the next generation. Yeah, it's nice here, I guess,

774
00:46:21.679 --> 00:46:24.119
is it. Yeah, it's fine. That's getting better. It's getting better.

775
00:46:24.280 --> 00:46:28.639
I like those controllers. The controllers
are good. The games look better.

776
00:46:28.679 --> 00:46:30.119
There's more, there's more stuff coming
out. There's a bunch of you

777
00:46:30.159 --> 00:46:35.639
know, it's about to be a
bunch of new stuff. In terms of

778
00:46:35.639 --> 00:46:38.719
actual video games. I played more
Fates Forever. That's not all you played.

779
00:46:39.639 --> 00:46:44.559
No, definitely, not all you
played. Not even in the context

780
00:46:44.599 --> 00:46:49.079
of games like Fates Forever. Is
that all you played? Set my Steam

781
00:46:49.199 --> 00:46:52.559
message or my my friends thing to
away so you wouldn't see it. Oh,

782
00:46:52.679 --> 00:46:58.360
you can't escape the ever watchful Eye. As soon as I I played

783
00:46:58.360 --> 00:47:00.599
a little Dota, I wasn't even
the one notice it's as soon as I

784
00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:05.079
logged in. It was. He
was the one that tipped me off.

785
00:47:05.159 --> 00:47:07.599
He just said, what are you
doing? You're sitting around getting ready for

786
00:47:07.599 --> 00:47:12.079
our recreational match. Yeah, and
then he saw that, and then I

787
00:47:12.119 --> 00:47:16.239
spectated your bod game, did you. Yes, I'll tell you what what

788
00:47:17.000 --> 00:47:21.360
I'm here to help you, creep. I'm trying to prove out whatever.

789
00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:24.800
There wouldn't be a big fat watch
game option when you click somebody's name if

790
00:47:24.800 --> 00:47:27.960
they didn't want you to watch their
games. I assume you can turn that

791
00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:30.920
off, right, is because you're
my friend? Yeah? Yeah, okay,

792
00:47:31.000 --> 00:47:32.960
yeah, it's only because you're on
my friend's list. I think I

793
00:47:32.960 --> 00:47:37.039
think you The only thing you could
probably do is sign out of friends,

794
00:47:37.559 --> 00:47:38.840
and then they wouldn't be able to
see that you were online playing, right,

795
00:47:38.960 --> 00:47:42.719
And I don't think there's a way
to block people from watching your live

796
00:47:42.760 --> 00:47:45.400
games. I mean, that's that's
kind of integral. The way they've set

797
00:47:45.400 --> 00:47:47.679
the entire spectating system up in that
game is that any game that's running at

798
00:47:47.679 --> 00:47:51.960
any time, you can jump into
and watch live in the client. All

799
00:47:52.039 --> 00:47:54.079
right, so what do you think? Well, I'll tell you that you

800
00:47:54.119 --> 00:48:00.320
should spin. You should definitely not
be buying a courtier, okay, and

801
00:48:00.360 --> 00:48:02.920
you want your and you definitely well, so he's an ask why Okay,

802
00:48:04.440 --> 00:48:07.880
just hit the button to open the
guide about what order you should buy,

803
00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:10.159
should and do it. Don't ask
any fucking questions, okay. Spend spens

804
00:48:10.199 --> 00:48:14.679
a core and usually unless they're plants, supports Finn, which is not something

805
00:48:14.760 --> 00:48:16.880
you care about. I picked him
because his name is Finn. He's I

806
00:48:16.920 --> 00:48:22.679
mean, he's a good starter guy. He's he's pretty straightforward. But as

807
00:48:22.760 --> 00:48:23.800
a as a core and hard carey, he needs a lot of gold.

808
00:48:24.519 --> 00:48:29.400
Uh so yeah, stuff's expensive.
Yeah, and you you want to put

809
00:48:29.440 --> 00:48:32.239
all the gold you're getting toward things
that specifically make him more of a bruiser.

810
00:48:32.519 --> 00:48:36.199
I kept losing it because, as
so you like, the courier is

811
00:48:36.239 --> 00:48:38.639
something that's that somebody who doesn't need
as much gold buys because they can get

812
00:48:38.719 --> 00:48:43.519
by without. Does that make sense? Sure? Yeah, we'll talk later,

813
00:48:44.000 --> 00:48:46.079
Drew. I have an important question
for you. Yeah, based on

814
00:48:46.159 --> 00:48:50.519
your early time with both of these
games, Yeah, what game is better?

815
00:48:50.719 --> 00:48:54.760
Doda two or Metal Gear Solid?
Oh wow, those those things are

816
00:48:54.800 --> 00:48:59.079
so direct. That's that's why I
want to hear is answer pretty much identical?

817
00:48:59.199 --> 00:49:00.639
Yeah, same thing? What is
the better video game? They're both

818
00:49:00.639 --> 00:49:07.000
disappointing. For Christ's sake, watching
Drew pay metal Gear is my favorite thing

819
00:49:07.079 --> 00:49:08.360
right now? Yeah, all twenty
minutes of metal Gear. Oh you guys

820
00:49:08.360 --> 00:49:20.960
actually watching the cut scenes metal Gear. I know what I don't know in

821
00:49:21.119 --> 00:49:23.199
Doda, I don't know what I
don't know. It's get kind of deep.

822
00:49:23.400 --> 00:49:27.320
See how exciting is that to not
know how much there is left to

823
00:49:27.400 --> 00:49:34.880
learn? You play? Oh,
I don't know anything. Yeah, I

824
00:49:34.960 --> 00:49:37.599
don't even know what I know.
Yeah. When I do know stuff,

825
00:49:37.639 --> 00:49:42.320
I don't know what that is.
Also, how his faith's forever going?

826
00:49:42.360 --> 00:49:44.559
You're sticking with it? Yeah,
I like I like that a lot.

827
00:49:45.920 --> 00:49:50.719
Wiki page is quite lacking. However, I may have to change something about

828
00:49:50.719 --> 00:49:55.239
that. Uh yeah, earning your
earning my oar playing a new character?

829
00:49:57.079 --> 00:50:02.840
Uh lee chi he throws seeds.
Yeah, it's kind of a heat.

830
00:50:02.880 --> 00:50:07.079
Yeah, heither guy, No slow
loris for you? Oh I did play

831
00:50:07.119 --> 00:50:09.599
her? Oh yeah, yeah,
I play she inexplicably unlocked. I don't

832
00:50:09.639 --> 00:50:14.000
know how I don't she wasn't one
of the free versions or free characters.

833
00:50:14.039 --> 00:50:16.840
Well, I mean they probably rotate
which ones are free, right, league

834
00:50:16.840 --> 00:50:19.840
does it? I thought they only
did it like three at a time,

835
00:50:19.880 --> 00:50:22.480
and she was the fourth. So
anyway, she's she's not She doesn't move

836
00:50:22.519 --> 00:50:27.599
slowly, she moves the speed is
the other the same as the other characters.

837
00:50:27.679 --> 00:50:31.320
It seems like fairly fun. That
game is good. Yeah, that's

838
00:50:31.559 --> 00:50:37.239
I still need to try it.
Yeah, it's not as daunting as Doda.

839
00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:42.599
It's all pretty straightforward. Yeah,
well those games need that. Like,

840
00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:45.519
as much as I like Doda,
I don't understand how anybody gets into

841
00:50:45.559 --> 00:50:49.360
it. Yeah. Do you think
Here Is the Storm will solve that problem

842
00:50:50.079 --> 00:50:53.199
or potentially be much accessible Because it
is, that's absolutely one hundred percent more

843
00:50:53.719 --> 00:50:59.280
accessible. But it's such a different
game that like, I don't, I

844
00:50:59.360 --> 00:51:01.400
kind of don't see it's scratching the
same itch, you know, Like people

845
00:51:01.440 --> 00:51:06.079
who like Doda because it's Doda don't
like that game for the same reasons.

846
00:51:06.280 --> 00:51:09.320
Yeah. Yeah, it's plus that
game is changing so much a month to

847
00:51:09.360 --> 00:51:14.239
month, like they are. They're
putting in and then ripping out entire subsystems

848
00:51:14.280 --> 00:51:15.280
in that game. When people don't
like, like you like this. Nope.

849
00:51:15.400 --> 00:51:17.360
Yeah, yes, they put in
the thing. They put in a

850
00:51:17.400 --> 00:51:21.280
thing very similar to League about a
month a month and a half ago,

851
00:51:21.480 --> 00:51:24.199
and the response was so angry that
it came back out like a week or

852
00:51:24.199 --> 00:51:28.920
two later to But but I mean, that is absolutely a game you can

853
00:51:28.960 --> 00:51:32.280
get into in a couple of games
and know what you're doing, as opposed

854
00:51:32.280 --> 00:51:37.039
to Doda, which is dense and
obscure, as fucking you will never truly

855
00:51:37.079 --> 00:51:40.639
know, super hostile for a whole
lot of reasons. Yeah, so I'm

856
00:51:40.679 --> 00:51:45.280
sure you can't wait to play more. I mean I don't know. Yeah,

857
00:51:45.440 --> 00:51:47.400
I feel like Face Forever is a
good gateway drug. I mean that

858
00:51:47.480 --> 00:51:50.960
might be all you need, you
know, Yeah, plenty of people get

859
00:51:51.000 --> 00:51:52.960
by on. I would say,
if you've got an if you've got an

860
00:51:53.000 --> 00:51:58.000
iPad and Doda is freaking you out
a little bit, just try Face Forever.

861
00:51:58.159 --> 00:52:00.800
Yeah, you get into the league. She will have been saying,

862
00:52:00.840 --> 00:52:04.639
Fates Forever is actually more like leagues. Yeah, I mean it definitely looked

863
00:52:04.639 --> 00:52:07.599
like it from the little bit that
I saw, like art style with nothing

864
00:52:07.639 --> 00:52:09.519
else. It's definitely styled after it. You should get deep into league and

865
00:52:09.519 --> 00:52:13.280
then you guys should just have debates
on this podcast all right, every week

866
00:52:13.360 --> 00:52:15.239
for the rest of forever, we'll
talk. We'll talk wrestling over you guys,

867
00:52:16.480 --> 00:52:19.599
you have your own podcast for that. Keep that ship out of here.

868
00:52:19.639 --> 00:52:22.320
They just should just past. Yes, I don't know what I thought.

869
00:52:22.360 --> 00:52:25.119
That's daily. I thought about it. Well, they're I mean,

870
00:52:25.159 --> 00:52:30.519
they're already competing Dota poditis, say, like all the podcasts, the ready

871
00:52:30.639 --> 00:52:34.039
Doda talent is already yeah, shacked
up. There are other there are other

872
00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:39.119
brads out there podcasting about Doda.
But you know, if funnily they lived

873
00:52:39.159 --> 00:52:42.400
up to their name and did it
on a daily basis, like it might

874
00:52:42.480 --> 00:52:45.920
actually serve some purpose for somebody.
That's right, a daily basis. Absolutely,

875
00:52:46.000 --> 00:52:50.079
Yeah, Like, I don't know
how you call your thing. You

876
00:52:50.159 --> 00:52:52.280
know, let's not get into it. Yeah, let's just let that one

877
00:52:52.320 --> 00:52:54.719
go. There are no Dota podcasts. Don't even go look for them.

878
00:52:54.760 --> 00:53:01.559
You're right until I say there,
art's right. You put your official stamp

879
00:53:01.920 --> 00:53:06.239
of quality on a dot to podcast. They should be jockeying and it'll come

880
00:53:06.239 --> 00:53:10.599
out on its your endorsement. Yeah, do to tomorrow a Giant Bomb production

881
00:53:10.719 --> 00:53:15.800
coming soon tomorrow. Last week,
we're just talking about the current Doda whatever.

882
00:53:15.840 --> 00:53:22.400
We're talking about the future of doat
ye lasers. The meta changes when

883
00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:24.559
we say it does. That's right. Uh oh. Somebody wrote in,

884
00:53:24.639 --> 00:53:30.360
by the way I sect the patches
we write them, Yeah right, I'm

885
00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:34.480
ice frog, which I'm ice frog
exclusively reveal that here we are all ice

886
00:53:34.519 --> 00:53:37.960
frog. We are all ice Frog. Somebody wrote in about what you said

887
00:53:38.039 --> 00:53:40.840
last week about that game not having
voice chat. It does have. Yes,

888
00:53:40.920 --> 00:53:45.480
there is a way to plug in
a little headset and like any headset,

889
00:53:45.519 --> 00:53:47.679
mike, you know, it's like
a phone. Yeah. Yeah,

890
00:53:47.880 --> 00:53:52.880
In fact, I guess the earbuds
that come with it probably have the right

891
00:53:52.519 --> 00:53:54.639
I don't know that the ones that
come with the iPad have the mic on

892
00:53:54.719 --> 00:54:00.480
it a phone, but yes,
but yeah, like any any buds that

893
00:54:00.559 --> 00:54:02.559
have like a phone mic in them
should should work for voice chat on there.

894
00:54:02.599 --> 00:54:05.719
I guess I've never played an iOS
game that had boys. Yeah.

895
00:54:05.719 --> 00:54:09.360
I can't think of any where it
would really matter. Yeah, yeah,

896
00:54:09.400 --> 00:54:13.800
but uh yeah. I also been
playing a lot of Medal Gear. Yep.

897
00:54:14.039 --> 00:54:17.199
Yeah, you're liking it so far. It's taken me a while to

898
00:54:17.280 --> 00:54:22.360
grapple with the controls. Yeah,
the controls are like su Super not modern

899
00:54:22.440 --> 00:54:28.280
you know, like they they kind
of good or bad like whatever do you

900
00:54:28.320 --> 00:54:30.800
want to call them? Like they
are just very unlike what games are like

901
00:54:30.920 --> 00:54:32.800
today to put control, that's that's
for sure. Yeah. Yeah, like

902
00:54:32.880 --> 00:54:36.440
there's like don't they It doesn't like
Game of the Weird stuff about like you

903
00:54:36.920 --> 00:54:39.440
or was that too, where you
like hold down square to ready your gun

904
00:54:39.559 --> 00:54:43.039
and then let off square to shoot
it. Yeah, because the PlayStation two,

905
00:54:43.079 --> 00:54:45.239
well, no, d you haven't
seen in Meddle Year two. They

906
00:54:45.360 --> 00:54:49.599
use the pressure sensitive dual Schock two. So you'd like be aiming in first

907
00:54:49.639 --> 00:54:52.519
person or wherever, and you'd be
holding in square and if you want to

908
00:54:52.760 --> 00:54:55.639
not shoot like with you and Meddle
Year one, you have to hit the

909
00:54:55.719 --> 00:55:00.360
on equip button. Are one you
could just slowly let off off of the

910
00:55:00.440 --> 00:55:02.800
square button and two and three.
I loved that. I thought that was

911
00:55:02.840 --> 00:55:06.440
great. It was really cool.
It was really cool. Yeah, I

912
00:55:06.519 --> 00:55:08.320
can't tell if you bring Star it
was it was like you know, just

913
00:55:08.639 --> 00:55:12.239
it was like the one thing that
used those buttons you like two that yea,

914
00:55:12.519 --> 00:55:14.920
yeah, like nobody ever used it
again. I think like Grand Trismo

915
00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:16.719
three used it or something. But
you know, gas and break and stuff,

916
00:55:16.880 --> 00:55:21.400
but yeah, four even it doesn't
have any else, it doesn't.

917
00:55:21.599 --> 00:55:23.239
They moved away from that because who
cares. Yeah, I guess so they

918
00:55:23.360 --> 00:55:29.199
offered it developers for a generation and
sure we can name two games. Yeah,

919
00:55:29.400 --> 00:55:31.840
that's true. So it's been fun
watching and Drew play because we forget

920
00:55:31.880 --> 00:55:35.719
that in the midst of this like
dire situation where this like Nuke is gonna

921
00:55:35.719 --> 00:55:38.159
go up in eighteen hours or something, Snake is constantly pausing just to hit

922
00:55:38.280 --> 00:55:43.519
on every female codec contact. Yeah, you know, me Lang and Nastasha,

923
00:55:43.719 --> 00:55:45.920
Meryl, just constantly. That's what
I remember about I remember anything dire

924
00:55:45.960 --> 00:55:49.760
about it totally, like oh what
yeah, like, what was the point

925
00:55:49.800 --> 00:55:52.840
of metal Gear? Well, he's
got to fight a metal Gear, right,

926
00:55:52.000 --> 00:55:54.119
We're getting spoil only thing for Drew
here. So yeah, Drew,

927
00:55:54.400 --> 00:55:58.280
where do you see the story going? I mean, I feel like I'm

928
00:55:58.280 --> 00:56:02.360
gonna kill all the Foxhound guys,
or at least defeat them. You've defeated

929
00:56:02.400 --> 00:56:07.639
revolver oslat Yes, and you've encountered
Volcan Raven. Oh, I see,

930
00:56:07.000 --> 00:56:10.079
I've encountered him. Well, I
mean he clearly didn't die at the end

931
00:56:10.079 --> 00:56:15.599
of that cut scene, right,
but you neither. But I defeated them

932
00:56:15.639 --> 00:56:17.679
in those encounters. You defeated Oslat
and Raven. Yeah. I mean it's

933
00:56:17.679 --> 00:56:21.719
a bunch of anime bullshit. There's
no such much like dying even when people

934
00:56:21.800 --> 00:56:24.440
died yea. But at the time
I didn't realize that. Yeah. See,

935
00:56:24.519 --> 00:56:27.880
I've never seen Animal. I felt
like the wool had been pulled over

936
00:56:27.960 --> 00:56:30.440
my eyes until I got to the
end of two. Oh, don't say

937
00:56:30.480 --> 00:56:35.239
Mental Years like anime because I hate
anime, so or I assume I don't.

938
00:56:36.039 --> 00:56:37.119
No, no, no, that's
what damn you like an anime.

939
00:56:37.360 --> 00:56:42.760
No, it's like cool action movie
stuff. It's like, that's what it's

940
00:56:42.840 --> 00:56:45.920
moe as fun. Just because they
didn't animate it with cells doesn't mean it's

941
00:56:45.920 --> 00:56:50.760
not anime. No, it's a
cool action movie thing. The game I

942
00:56:50.840 --> 00:56:53.360
just saw Predator and die Hard and
The Rock and like and then then no,

943
00:56:54.679 --> 00:56:59.760
and then filtered it through like nine
levels of bullshit. Awesome bullshit.

944
00:57:00.400 --> 00:57:04.719
Come up with a good game around
it. Nano machines great, It's like

945
00:57:04.800 --> 00:57:10.880
Star Wars machines are cooler. Mediclorians
Yeah, yeah, the same thing magic.

946
00:57:12.280 --> 00:57:15.920
Yeah, but I'm enjoying it.
It is. It's fun. I

947
00:57:15.920 --> 00:57:22.519
at times I may sound exasperated today. Today's recording was an excellent gosh,

948
00:57:23.199 --> 00:57:29.800
but it is at my own ineptitude. It's a lot of like the little

949
00:57:29.880 --> 00:57:32.159
control things like well, to choke
a guy out, you gotta run up

950
00:57:32.199 --> 00:57:35.880
and then stop and then James on
square to snapp his neck. But if

951
00:57:35.920 --> 00:57:37.239
you're moving, you're just gonna flip
over and he's gonna wake up immediately and

952
00:57:38.280 --> 00:57:40.400
right away. So but yeah,
I think you're starting to get that.

953
00:57:40.480 --> 00:57:45.079
He just got the cardboard box.
Yeah, very exciting. Yeah, spoilers

954
00:57:45.119 --> 00:57:47.599
for the episode original Metal Gear.
If that's my cardboard box game of choice,

955
00:57:50.280 --> 00:57:52.320
tip down. No, the first
Metal Gear and this excelle No,

956
00:57:52.400 --> 00:57:57.079
I mean that. Then he asked
game. I mean yeah, at the

957
00:57:57.119 --> 00:57:59.599
time, I loved it. Really
it was. Yeah, No, I

958
00:57:59.719 --> 00:58:02.400
loved that goddamn game. It was
rarely the gameplay in that series that like,

959
00:58:02.519 --> 00:58:05.719
I think the game plays really good, but it was the story and

960
00:58:05.760 --> 00:58:08.239
the characters that grabbed me. And
Metal Gear to me is just like,

961
00:58:08.360 --> 00:58:13.360
well, it's really tough gameplay,
and nick remote control missile and just use

962
00:58:13.440 --> 00:58:15.559
the deep head, remember guide it
through. Remember that magazine ad for that

963
00:58:15.679 --> 00:58:19.840
game that was just every weapon in
the entire game laid out on a white

964
00:58:19.920 --> 00:58:22.800
page. There were like thirty or
forty weapons. Yeah, that was cool.

965
00:58:23.000 --> 00:58:25.440
I never played Snakes Revenge. That's
not a real Metal year, I

966
00:58:25.519 --> 00:58:29.480
know. But like even as a
fan of that game, of the first

967
00:58:29.559 --> 00:58:31.480
game, when they said here's the
sequel to it, even not knowing the

968
00:58:31.559 --> 00:58:35.159
real backstory, I was like,
no, nope, I mean it isn't

969
00:58:35.159 --> 00:58:39.159
that a side scroll like a quasi
side SCORERS two, which is also a

970
00:58:39.199 --> 00:58:45.039
noncanon sequel, because I could have
sworn they changed the perspective some. There's

971
00:58:45.079 --> 00:58:47.920
some differences. But I also love
how this, you know, Big Triple

972
00:58:47.960 --> 00:58:52.079
A game in nineteen ninety eight for
PlayStation, like just assumes you've played these

973
00:58:52.119 --> 00:58:55.719
obscure MSX games or it's like bringing
up like it's talking about Big Bosses remains

974
00:58:57.079 --> 00:59:00.360
like other figures from the past.
They ease you into that really, although

975
00:59:00.440 --> 00:59:02.000
like I feel like they set it
all up so you can kind of well,

976
00:59:02.079 --> 00:59:04.920
no, because you just look at
it and go like they're just like

977
00:59:05.480 --> 00:59:08.159
shitting anime bullshit in my direction at
a rate that like it doesn't matter,

978
00:59:08.280 --> 00:59:12.119
none of this matters. But I
mean they build up enough of a mystique

979
00:59:12.119 --> 00:59:15.960
around the name Big Boss that you
can understand the remains matter. You don't

980
00:59:15.079 --> 00:59:19.119
need to know that backstory. Here's
a test. It's so rapid fire.

981
00:59:19.199 --> 00:59:21.800
Here's a test. Drew is three
hours in the Metal Gear Solid. What

982
00:59:21.960 --> 00:59:30.039
do you know about Big Boss there
remains? I mean that's all I know.

983
00:59:30.159 --> 00:59:32.679
There you go. I mean he's
the legendary soldier, right, sure.

984
00:59:32.800 --> 00:59:37.960
I think they've I think they've identified
him as such. I don't remember

985
00:59:37.960 --> 00:59:42.280
status of any characters in that.
Man, the fucking the intro to Metal

986
00:59:42.280 --> 00:59:44.360
Your Solid one is so amazing.
Oh my god, like one of the

987
00:59:44.400 --> 00:59:49.440
best starts to a game ever.
Swimming Yeah, the one man swimming STV.

988
00:59:49.760 --> 00:59:52.159
Yeah. Yeah, he's telling me
about all these cool guys like oh,

989
00:59:52.519 --> 00:59:53.960
Vulcan, Raven, Giant, and
Shaman. Yeah, it's great.

990
00:59:54.000 --> 00:59:58.440
Psychomantis. I feel like I haven't
played I haven't played the game since it

991
00:59:58.480 --> 01:00:02.960
came out Weapons and Equipment of Wes. Yeah being I played the Japanese version

992
01:00:04.000 --> 01:00:06.320
when that came out, and then
played it again in English. Yeah.

993
01:00:07.599 --> 01:00:09.920
Let me tell you there's one part
in that game that if you don't know,

994
01:00:10.320 --> 01:00:14.079
if you were not getting any of
the dialogue out of it, Oh,

995
01:00:14.960 --> 01:00:17.800
is it a boss Boy? Oh? I know that part was also

996
01:00:19.079 --> 01:00:22.039
tricky, as oh, wait,
I know what you're talking about. Give

997
01:00:22.039 --> 01:00:25.760
me a hand here, I'm the
CD case. Yeah okay, yeah,

998
01:00:27.280 --> 01:00:30.519
it's like, well, you're supposed
to do exactly? Did you just go

999
01:00:30.679 --> 01:00:32.519
through every one of the two hundred
frequencies? No, you know enough people

1000
01:00:32.679 --> 01:00:36.880
imported games back then. You know, a fact was being generated as people

1001
01:00:36.880 --> 01:00:39.039
were playing through it, and you
know, someone who spoke the language is

1002
01:00:39.079 --> 01:00:42.840
like, oh, by the way, it's still silly and funny to hear

1003
01:00:42.960 --> 01:00:45.679
like Campbell be like you should really
call Meryll check the back of the CD

1004
01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:47.840
case like that. It's still funny. Yeah, we're telling me you to

1005
01:00:47.920 --> 01:00:52.320
like press the action button to climb
ladders. Yeah, yeah that Yeah,

1006
01:00:52.920 --> 01:00:55.679
they're like fourth wall. Yeah,
in retrospect, like as many times as

1007
01:00:55.719 --> 01:00:58.559
they break the fourth wall in that
game, I don't know how I ever

1008
01:00:58.880 --> 01:01:02.039
thought I was supposed to take series
remotely seriously. Yeah, and then when

1009
01:01:02.039 --> 01:01:06.079
you get to the end and when
the end and cut scene like this's just

1010
01:01:06.199 --> 01:01:09.760
like the stuff that when it just
becomes like, oh you fucking suck and

1011
01:01:10.000 --> 01:01:13.679
stuff. Yeah, it is just
like this is crap. It is,

1012
01:01:13.719 --> 01:01:16.400
without question, the greatest story in
the history video games, Like the series

1013
01:01:16.519 --> 01:01:19.960
as a whole. I'd say,
for sure the lore of Metal Year.

1014
01:01:20.239 --> 01:01:24.199
Trump's any game series or single game
ever released the greatest story. I don't

1015
01:01:24.239 --> 01:01:27.800
know, the most story, Yeah, I would agree with it. It

1016
01:01:27.920 --> 01:01:30.920
is the most players, and it
like it is the craziest. It is

1017
01:01:30.960 --> 01:01:34.679
among the craziest stories. I think, pretty for me and I can tell

1018
01:01:34.719 --> 01:01:37.840
it. This is not the extentiment. Oh, no, one is like

1019
01:01:37.159 --> 01:01:39.800
one of the most grounded ones.
Yeah. Oh, once you get to

1020
01:01:39.840 --> 01:01:45.039
the last couple of hours or two, Holy shit, she was amazing too,

1021
01:01:45.079 --> 01:01:46.039
was the best game in the series. See, I think I was

1022
01:01:46.079 --> 01:01:49.239
telling you today. I think there's
an argument that can be made for every

1023
01:01:49.280 --> 01:01:51.679
one of the four, Like I
could, I could, I could put

1024
01:01:51.679 --> 01:01:52.800
together an argument for one being the
best, two being the best, three,

1025
01:01:52.880 --> 01:01:55.920
and four, Like they're all so
goddamn good in their own ways and

1026
01:01:57.079 --> 01:02:00.519
very distinct ways. Like two,
I think the story is incredib Like even

1027
01:02:00.599 --> 01:02:02.320
that last couple of hours bullshit stuff. Correct, you understand what's going on

1028
01:02:02.400 --> 01:02:06.119
there. It's like, oh,
this is awesome. It's super confusing and

1029
01:02:06.119 --> 01:02:08.199
awesome. It's the best lore of
any serious It's a great it's a great

1030
01:02:08.239 --> 01:02:13.360
mind fuck that like Redeems the first
game, redeems the franchise for me in

1031
01:02:13.360 --> 01:02:15.239
a lot of ways, it's like, okay, all right, okay,

1032
01:02:15.360 --> 01:02:17.400
no, you're you're willingness to just
say fuck you, fuck this. This

1033
01:02:17.559 --> 01:02:21.840
is gonna be confusing. It's for
a long time. You know it's bullshit

1034
01:02:22.039 --> 01:02:24.039
too, but I wanted it to
not be bullshit. And then they torpedoed

1035
01:02:24.119 --> 01:02:30.440
it. No, it all makes
sense again. I continued to appreciate it.

1036
01:02:30.599 --> 01:02:35.199
You just wanted your you're no longer
military store. It would never was

1037
01:02:35.320 --> 01:02:37.400
that. I know it never was. That's what I'm saying. I don't

1038
01:02:37.400 --> 01:02:43.119
know how Richards go get an nes
because Operation Intrude and three one three is

1039
01:02:43.159 --> 01:02:45.079
all that. Well, there's no
fucking bullshit in that game. I mean

1040
01:02:45.119 --> 01:02:47.280
I wanted a little bit of bullshit, all right. I think it was

1041
01:02:47.280 --> 01:02:50.840
just a bullshit sleep and you punched
until he disappears. There's your bullshit.

1042
01:02:50.960 --> 01:02:53.519
Bullshit ratio was just off. I
think I will say there's more bullshit than

1043
01:02:53.599 --> 01:02:59.519
four. The most was a lot
of fucking ridiculous bull Four was when I

1044
01:02:59.599 --> 01:03:01.880
was able to start wrapping back around
and appreciating it for the bullshit. Four

1045
01:03:02.000 --> 01:03:05.840
is it the point where you're just
like it's the self indulgence of just like

1046
01:03:05.960 --> 01:03:08.679
watch this man smoke for an hour? Like sure, like, okay,

1047
01:03:08.760 --> 01:03:12.920
great, this is the greatest video
game fucking ever produced. Sure Like the

1048
01:03:13.000 --> 01:03:17.000
level of detail, like put into
the most meaningless of garbage. Or does

1049
01:03:17.079 --> 01:03:22.239
that super confusing opening where you're just
watching TV channels and flipping through them?

1050
01:03:22.280 --> 01:03:23.719
Yeah? Yeah, Yeah, that
stuff's all great. Weird as hell.

1051
01:03:23.880 --> 01:03:27.239
When I when I was in Japan
talking, I'm like, that cost them

1052
01:03:27.400 --> 01:03:30.199
so much money to do, and
our video guy had been handsome, was

1053
01:03:30.199 --> 01:03:30.960
like, so why did you do
this? And they're just like, oh,

1054
01:03:31.000 --> 01:03:32.519
we just wanted people to turn on
the game and be like, what

1055
01:03:32.559 --> 01:03:36.079
the fuck is this? What's going
on here? They spent so much money

1056
01:03:36.199 --> 01:03:37.679
making that weird sequence. Yeah.
I don't want to say too much about

1057
01:03:37.679 --> 01:03:42.599
it, you know, I hope
to get to four Withdrew. Three kind

1058
01:03:42.639 --> 01:03:45.800
of started getting back to what I
liked about that series, which was the

1059
01:03:45.920 --> 01:03:49.599
systems in three. No, man, I don't mean I don't know,

1060
01:03:49.800 --> 01:03:52.960
I just mean purely, like in
terms of fiction and stuff like, yeah,

1061
01:03:52.960 --> 01:03:54.719
I guess I understand why I understand
why people do not like to play

1062
01:03:54.760 --> 01:03:58.599
three. The fiction in three,
though, great, well, but it

1063
01:03:58.840 --> 01:04:01.840
was the it was it's it's the
way that they take like the characters and

1064
01:04:02.039 --> 01:04:06.599
settings of the previous games that take
place in an entirely different time and attempt

1065
01:04:06.679 --> 01:04:11.480
to map them directly. That is
the problem. Characters that all are identical,

1066
01:04:11.679 --> 01:04:13.719
Like, you know, at some
point they should just like end those

1067
01:04:13.840 --> 01:04:16.360
games with all of the character models
walking out onto a stage in bowing.

1068
01:04:16.760 --> 01:04:19.599
I'm saying, thank you for watching
our story. Next time we're going to

1069
01:04:19.719 --> 01:04:23.280
space. Yeah, you know,
like it's it's if they just did that

1070
01:04:23.480 --> 01:04:27.559
and said, you know, Audicon
is playing the role of right and just

1071
01:04:27.719 --> 01:04:30.440
got shit out of the way and
still trying to convince you tore like,

1072
01:04:30.519 --> 01:04:33.280
no, these are different people.
Fuck that. That's that's that's the that's

1073
01:04:33.320 --> 01:04:38.480
the Star Wars prequel effect of like
totally like you're actually making your whole universe

1074
01:04:38.559 --> 01:04:42.239
smaller by saying that everybody actually knew
everybody else. Yea for the for the

1075
01:04:42.400 --> 01:04:45.639
entire ship is dumb, like the
year from a lower perspective, that ship

1076
01:04:45.719 --> 01:04:50.239
made me crazy. That part three, like the food and heal everybody gets

1077
01:04:50.320 --> 01:04:54.039
shot, you have to like go
in like but it was stuff, just

1078
01:04:54.239 --> 01:04:57.360
suck the stuff. And three that
I liked was the like Cold War intrigue,

1079
01:04:57.480 --> 01:05:01.039
the political maneuvering between I love superpowers
of Cold War intrigue. Again,

1080
01:05:01.079 --> 01:05:03.840
just feel like they didn't have it
the right way. They didn't have it

1081
01:05:03.880 --> 01:05:06.920
the way I wanted. I don't
know. I mean I felt like the

1082
01:05:08.039 --> 01:05:10.880
MGS one was coming off the tail
end of that stuff, where right,

1083
01:05:11.079 --> 01:05:14.320
you still had Russian gun ships and
former KGB agents and stuff like that.

1084
01:05:14.480 --> 01:05:16.159
Yeah, I wanted more of that, more of the era that's more of

1085
01:05:16.239 --> 01:05:20.039
the Cold War era or just before
that that I want, not necessarily the

1086
01:05:20.159 --> 01:05:24.199
kind of more Vietnam focus star like, I want a little more modern than

1087
01:05:24.280 --> 01:05:29.840
that. Well, yeah, there's
a lot more Drew you have barely scratched.

1088
01:05:30.679 --> 01:05:32.519
I'm just kind of bummed that you
reminded me that the Salid Snake is

1089
01:05:32.599 --> 01:05:35.480
kind of a skiezy litch in that
game. I mean, it's kind of

1090
01:05:35.599 --> 01:05:41.079
charming, it's kind of yeah,
it's it's bondish, but there's nothing smooth

1091
01:05:41.119 --> 01:05:44.360
about him. Yeah. Maybe when
I get back, I'll let you do

1092
01:05:44.440 --> 01:05:46.360
a strip strech on me. Yeah. Yeah. Thinking back on like some

1093
01:05:46.440 --> 01:05:48.559
of the stuff he says to mailing
and stuff, I'm like, it is

1094
01:05:48.880 --> 01:05:51.280
no he's just like, oh,
I didn't expect the world class designer military

1095
01:05:51.320 --> 01:05:56.599
technology to be so cute stuff like
that. It's not too bad, real

1096
01:05:56.679 --> 01:05:59.440
slick. It's not like, hey, I'm gonna leave alask and then come

1097
01:05:59.480 --> 01:06:04.079
bang. Yeah, trying to like
that's just implied, hey subtle. Huh.

1098
01:06:04.440 --> 01:06:13.480
Well, I also almost played Star
Citizen. I feel like that's all

1099
01:06:13.559 --> 01:06:15.000
of us every day. Yeah.
No, whether we know it or not,

1100
01:06:15.400 --> 01:06:19.039
we all almost play Star At an
hour, I'm like, all right'm

1101
01:06:19.039 --> 01:06:21.800
gonna sit down and just try to
get in here and loan systems a little

1102
01:06:21.800 --> 01:06:27.280
bit. Uh, and then I
spend an hour like editing XML files to

1103
01:06:27.360 --> 01:06:29.400
try to get my joysticks to work. There you go, that's the game.

1104
01:06:29.559 --> 01:06:34.000
Because you don't have key binding in
this verse. That's the next stretch

1105
01:06:34.079 --> 01:06:40.760
goal. Yeah, the ability to
to have buttons massive. Given them twenty

1106
01:06:40.840 --> 01:06:45.119
grand, you would be able to
just pick your buttons in the software itself.

1107
01:06:45.280 --> 01:06:50.079
So almost I can't wait to see
what the thing ends up being.

1108
01:06:50.440 --> 01:06:57.199
Yeah, I can't wait win or
lose. It's still interesting. Yeah,

1109
01:06:57.280 --> 01:07:00.440
you know, if it's a colossal
failure, that's that's still like I mean

1110
01:07:00.480 --> 01:07:03.440
that is I think that's grammatically more
interesting. To see if it's a successful,

1111
01:07:03.519 --> 01:07:09.440
awesome game that fucking revitalizes that that
type of space sim Yeah, I

1112
01:07:09.480 --> 01:07:12.800
mean not even not even revitalizes.
I mean what they're promising is like way

1113
01:07:12.880 --> 01:07:15.440
beyond the scope of any space m
that's ever been made. Yeah. Yeah,

1114
01:07:15.480 --> 01:07:18.199
if they pull that off to this
insane extreme, If they pull it

1115
01:07:18.239 --> 01:07:21.239
off, it sounds fucking incredible.
But if they don't pull it off,

1116
01:07:21.280 --> 01:07:26.840
the fireworks will be equally incredible.
Like someone should write a book about Yeah.

1117
01:07:27.079 --> 01:07:30.679
Yeah, what was that Battle Cruiser
three thousand? Yeah, yeah,

1118
01:07:30.719 --> 01:07:33.960
Derek Smart, Yeah, it was
the thing with that, with that one,

1119
01:07:34.239 --> 01:07:38.519
don't say his name two more times. He'll post a comment on the

1120
01:07:38.599 --> 01:07:45.039
podcast that that was similarly dramatically large. Yeah, I think i'd ever paid

1121
01:07:45.039 --> 01:07:45.920
a who lot of attention to it. I mean I think wasn't that the

1122
01:07:45.960 --> 01:07:48.400
pitch though? It was like,
oh, you can command the starship but

1123
01:07:48.480 --> 01:07:51.440
also like fly down to a planet
and do stuff. It was supposed to

1124
01:07:51.480 --> 01:07:55.880
be that, but then the team
on it was too small. I don't

1125
01:07:55.920 --> 01:08:00.519
know what I mean. Also,
though it out, but not in think

1126
01:08:00.719 --> 01:08:03.840
you should play that game, you
know that if you want to undertake this

1127
01:08:03.960 --> 01:08:06.239
endeavor. I don't think anyone else
are gonna stop you. I played that

1128
01:08:06.320 --> 01:08:12.679
game one point. I remember much
about it. I remember finding it incredibly

1129
01:08:12.760 --> 01:08:16.520
confusing. I heard that, all
right, so you're gonna table Star Citizen

1130
01:08:16.560 --> 01:08:20.039
for a little bit longer. I
mean, yeah, it's complex. I'd

1131
01:08:20.039 --> 01:08:24.399
like to get a handle on it
before I showed off. All right,

1132
01:08:25.000 --> 01:08:29.760
Well, it's great to get our
weekly Drew update. Jeff. Hello,

1133
01:08:30.079 --> 01:08:34.640
Hi, Hi, what happened while
you were going? Uh? Tell us

1134
01:08:34.680 --> 01:08:38.880
of your trip, tell us of
your life. I was out and about

1135
01:08:38.880 --> 01:08:41.239
for the weekend, is out of
town, and then I flew back this

1136
01:08:41.319 --> 01:08:43.279
morning. I had to wake up
super early to try to get the airport,

1137
01:08:43.359 --> 01:08:45.680
try to get back here in time
to do this podcast, and the

1138
01:08:45.720 --> 01:08:49.119
fight got to lay a bunch.
So I just sat in the airport playing

1139
01:08:49.359 --> 01:08:55.520
w W E Supercard. What's your
best card? Uh, it's a Kofi

1140
01:08:55.640 --> 01:09:00.479
Kingston super Rare that I've leveled up
pretty high my hole. Except for the

1141
01:09:00.560 --> 01:09:04.760
Diva slot. My other cards are
all super rares. Now, who's the

1142
01:09:04.840 --> 01:09:09.720
Diva you get? I've got an
aj Lee rare. Oh it was fully

1143
01:09:09.800 --> 01:09:15.560
level, which wins most Diva matches. For some reason, Ava Marie is

1144
01:09:15.760 --> 01:09:19.520
higher, is like a better card
than AJ, which I think is a

1145
01:09:19.600 --> 01:09:27.039
huge mistake. That game continues to
be baffling. Putting more money into it,

1146
01:09:28.640 --> 01:09:30.720
I did. I bought another set
of cards to get a you know,

1147
01:09:30.760 --> 01:09:34.600
I like, I got a super
rare j Usso and Cody Rhodes and

1148
01:09:35.920 --> 01:09:41.039
no, no, that's justis with
a face mask on. Oh wows yeah,

1149
01:09:41.119 --> 01:09:44.600
you know pictures, hold pictures and
then well I'll load it up and

1150
01:09:44.600 --> 01:09:45.439
I'll tell you what the other card
is. Oh, it's our truth.

1151
01:09:45.479 --> 01:09:48.159
I got ar truth. Okay,
I think I'm gonna start playing that game.

1152
01:09:48.199 --> 01:09:50.039
I see people tweeting about it and
stuff, and like, I know,

1153
01:09:50.119 --> 01:09:53.239
it doesn't seem like there's much of
the game there, but you know,

1154
01:09:53.319 --> 01:09:57.199
and like I had hours to kill
at the airport and I was frustrated

1155
01:09:57.279 --> 01:10:00.560
and didn't have the mental focus to
actually play a real video game, and

1156
01:10:00.840 --> 01:10:06.119
w WB Supercard fits the needs there
perfectly. Like I don't have them.

1157
01:10:06.520 --> 01:10:12.359
I just don't have it to play
something legit. I'm stuck somewhere for a

1158
01:10:12.439 --> 01:10:16.720
length of time. I can tap
on these fucking wrestler faces for hours if

1159
01:10:16.760 --> 01:10:19.760
I have to. But that thing
is a horrible battery drain for something that's

1160
01:10:19.800 --> 01:10:25.159
just a shitty card game. Wow. By nine am, my battery was

1161
01:10:25.199 --> 01:10:29.319
dead playing on the phone or the
tablet. On the phone, I don't

1162
01:10:29.319 --> 01:10:30.800
know. Can I play against you
if I downloaded? Or is it all

1163
01:10:30.880 --> 01:10:34.399
right? No, there's no,
there's no multiplayer. You play against other

1164
01:10:34.439 --> 01:10:39.760
people's real decks, but not against
them, so and the AI is shit.

1165
01:10:40.079 --> 01:10:44.239
So it's so it's like a ghost
racer type thing where it's like you're

1166
01:10:44.239 --> 01:10:45.880
not playing against someone, but here's
their things, here's their cards, and

1167
01:10:45.960 --> 01:10:49.399
here's how they've leveled them and that
sort of stuff, but you're not really

1168
01:10:49.439 --> 01:10:56.039
playing against them, which seems like
I don't it's it's kind of bad.

1169
01:10:56.199 --> 01:10:59.680
I have a piece of advice for
you. Don't play that game. I

1170
01:10:59.760 --> 01:11:01.359
mean, I kind of need that
dumb thing on my phone to just tap

1171
01:11:01.439 --> 01:11:04.319
every once in a while. A
lot of like, if you just need

1172
01:11:04.399 --> 01:11:08.279
a dumb thing to fucking do on
a phone, you could do a lot

1173
01:11:08.359 --> 01:11:12.239
worse than like sitting there hoping that
you eventually get the super rare Vince mcman

1174
01:11:12.359 --> 01:11:15.680
card because it has a really high
charisma. Of course, a fucking course

1175
01:11:15.760 --> 01:11:19.119
it does vets. Yeah, wow, it sounds better than swing copters.

1176
01:11:19.199 --> 01:11:21.840
I've been playing that it's better than
swing Copters. I got to eight.

1177
01:11:21.920 --> 01:11:26.640
I got to eight and swing copters
I'm at seven, So are you really

1178
01:11:26.880 --> 01:11:29.800
coming for you? The leaderboards don't
work. I keep trying to look,

1179
01:11:29.840 --> 01:11:31.880
and I had of you on Game
Center and just says I'm the only person

1180
01:11:31.960 --> 01:11:35.600
in the world playing this game.
Well, it tracks your score separately between

1181
01:11:35.600 --> 01:11:40.279
devices, No, even on iPad
and iPhone. I can't see it because

1182
01:11:40.279 --> 01:11:44.279
I just got the seven this morning. I don't know. Yeah, the

1183
01:11:44.359 --> 01:11:46.079
leaderboards might just be busting. They
patched the game, which might have cleared

1184
01:11:46.079 --> 01:11:48.239
the leaderboards. I don't know,
maybe patched it, saying there was a

1185
01:11:48.279 --> 01:11:51.239
difficulty tuning. I don't know what
change. The only difference I saw is

1186
01:11:51.359 --> 01:11:57.199
that the distance between the ground where
you start and the first set of hammers

1187
01:11:57.319 --> 01:12:00.840
no is a lot longer. Now
did they speed up like start up the

1188
01:12:00.880 --> 01:12:02.479
copter I have. I can't tell
any other difference. I don't know.

1189
01:12:02.600 --> 01:12:06.159
It still feels like it controls the
same bad game. It's a bad game,

1190
01:12:06.239 --> 01:12:14.079
yeah, Supercar Okay, I don't
know about that. It's it's a

1191
01:12:14.159 --> 01:12:17.680
better game. I don't know if
I agree with that, that's agree and

1192
01:12:17.760 --> 01:12:21.920
disagree. I tap on Cody Rhodes
and then his little card dances to life

1193
01:12:23.359 --> 01:12:26.720
and then performs a wrestling move on
another little card, and then the card

1194
01:12:26.720 --> 01:12:30.520
who loses explodes. All right,
I'm more interested now, and then your

1195
01:12:30.520 --> 01:12:34.199
batteries dead. You go, Well, these cards cards did dance around a

1196
01:12:34.279 --> 01:12:38.920
lot. That sounds incredible. What
else have you? Did you have time

1197
01:12:38.920 --> 01:12:41.399
to play anything else? No?
No, you know, I like I

1198
01:12:41.880 --> 01:12:45.319
left for the airport immediately following the
show on Friday, and then got back

1199
01:12:45.399 --> 01:12:49.039
here on a delayed flight and drove
right to the office. So sure,

1200
01:12:49.640 --> 01:12:55.960
so I've been away from from steps, you know, before you left.

1201
01:12:56.000 --> 01:12:58.720
Oh you know what, Actually I
did play a little bit of Infamous First

1202
01:12:58.800 --> 01:13:00.880
Light. That's what I was going
to bring up. I watched you play

1203
01:13:00.239 --> 01:13:02.479
a hair of that. All a
bit of a blur at this, but

1204
01:13:02.640 --> 01:13:05.720
yes, I did play some of
that. Uh yeah, I don't know.

1205
01:13:05.880 --> 01:13:10.880
I I liked Fetch in the main
game. Yeah, I thought from

1206
01:13:10.920 --> 01:13:14.760
what I saw, I don't know
if it felt like they compartmentalized the character's

1207
01:13:14.800 --> 01:13:16.479
lot in that game. It's like
whatever set of powers you have, the

1208
01:13:16.560 --> 01:13:20.279
corresponding character was prominent at that time, right, and then they disappear.

1209
01:13:20.319 --> 01:13:23.159
I never finished the game, So
I don't know if she came back into

1210
01:13:23.199 --> 01:13:25.640
it, but not so much from
what I saw of her. Right,

1211
01:13:25.680 --> 01:13:29.680
if this is set years before,
it's her inside the prison, kind of

1212
01:13:29.800 --> 01:13:33.279
detailing her story to the you know, the lady bad guy, the head

1213
01:13:33.319 --> 01:13:36.520
of the dup, whatever her name
is. Does it touch on didn't she

1214
01:13:36.640 --> 01:13:40.840
have some magic boyfriend. That's something
terrible happened and now she said? Or

1215
01:13:41.319 --> 01:13:44.720
remember there the whole thing. It's
it's her brother, brother, Oh brother,

1216
01:13:44.840 --> 01:13:46.760
Okay, So the game pretty much
opens with you know what is I

1217
01:13:46.880 --> 01:13:50.159
probably presumed the death of her brother, and it kind of goes from there.

1218
01:13:50.239 --> 01:13:53.880
So, you know, you get
your Neon powers pretty quickly. It's

1219
01:13:53.920 --> 01:13:58.479
got a like a reduced subset of
the upgrade system from the main game.

1220
01:13:58.960 --> 01:14:01.399
It has some side activities, but
some of them were just like race around

1221
01:14:01.399 --> 01:14:03.520
the city to collect these Neon elements, and I was just like, I

1222
01:14:03.560 --> 01:14:06.000
don't want to no, no,
no no. That game was so bad

1223
01:14:06.119 --> 01:14:09.720
at giving you for an open world
game, It was so bad at giving

1224
01:14:09.720 --> 01:14:13.760
you interesting things to travel around and
do it. It was like Neon running

1225
01:14:13.840 --> 01:14:16.880
up buildings and flying around and dashing, but like graffiti was dumb. So

1226
01:14:17.000 --> 01:14:19.720
this has graffiti in it. It's
a little bit different. But shake the

1227
01:14:19.760 --> 01:14:24.520
controller and you don't shake it.
Oh wow, Okay, that's the difference.

1228
01:14:24.760 --> 01:14:26.279
I kind of like that it made
a little sound, I know.

1229
01:14:26.520 --> 01:14:30.439
Yeah. And then it's kind of
intercut with these arena like a battle mode

1230
01:14:30.520 --> 01:14:35.760
thing where you can just go do
arena fights, which that's not Yeah,

1231
01:14:36.159 --> 01:14:40.600
that that seemed like it's like you
do one as like remember, you can

1232
01:14:40.640 --> 01:14:44.800
come back here anytime, and we
got leader boards and and you can you

1233
01:14:44.840 --> 01:14:47.479
know, earn upgrade points here by
completing these challenges and throughom like no thank

1234
01:14:47.560 --> 01:14:54.239
you. That is not like I
really liked Infamous Second Son, uh,

1235
01:14:54.680 --> 01:14:58.199
despite you know, some of the
side elements not being fantastic, like there

1236
01:14:58.319 --> 01:15:00.720
was just enough to the game and
and you know, like I liked taking

1237
01:15:00.800 --> 01:15:05.079
over the the like you know,
go beating up the trucks and taking over

1238
01:15:05.199 --> 01:15:08.640
parts of the city and stuff like
that. And this still has the percentages

1239
01:15:08.680 --> 01:15:11.600
and little stuff like that. But
the side elements are you know, granted

1240
01:15:11.880 --> 01:15:14.760
it's like from the first hour,
so yeah, but but I get the

1241
01:15:14.800 --> 01:15:17.359
impression that it has laid out the
side content and it will just be duplicated

1242
01:15:17.399 --> 01:15:21.680
across the districts like it was previously. Sure, uh and and I think

1243
01:15:21.720 --> 01:15:27.279
that stuff seems kind of weak as
it was in the original game. I

1244
01:15:27.319 --> 01:15:30.319
think it seems weaker. I think
I think it's it's like it doesn't represent

1245
01:15:30.479 --> 01:15:35.520
a a learning on the part of
the developers of it meaning more exciting side

1246
01:15:35.560 --> 01:15:40.119
content. It's like the graffiti is
kind of not as good as it was

1247
01:15:40.199 --> 01:15:45.760
because there's there's no h it doesn't
seem like there's any kind of good evil

1248
01:15:45.880 --> 01:15:47.800
system in there. So it's not
like you're getting like, here's the evil

1249
01:15:47.800 --> 01:15:50.279
graffiti, here's the good graffiti.
It's just like here's the graffiti on it.

1250
01:15:50.520 --> 01:15:53.239
Yeah, well, you know you've
got a character that has to end

1251
01:15:53.319 --> 01:15:55.800
up in a certain place. Yeah, it's that's true. That's definitely true.

1252
01:15:56.600 --> 01:15:59.279
Neon powers at least, or is
it the same stuff. It's seems

1253
01:15:59.319 --> 01:16:00.199
like it's the same stuff. You
know, you get an air dash,

1254
01:16:00.279 --> 01:16:03.479
you get a you know, the
type of movement powers you would expect,

1255
01:16:04.039 --> 01:16:10.359
you get the hover. You has
to start with it, and you know,

1256
01:16:10.560 --> 01:16:14.359
it's like rapid fire Neon bolts.
And the thing they do is the

1257
01:16:15.079 --> 01:16:18.000
they randomize the weak points on enemies, so you every time you go into

1258
01:16:18.039 --> 01:16:21.840
zoom mode. I can't remember if
if second son does this with the neon

1259
01:16:21.920 --> 01:16:25.439
power or not, but you know
it'll be their head, or it'll be

1260
01:16:25.560 --> 01:16:28.359
one of their legs or one of
their arms. Yeah, it didn't random

1261
01:16:28.640 --> 01:16:30.840
random. Ye, it's random in
this so you know it kind of just

1262
01:16:31.000 --> 01:16:35.720
forces you to aim differently on every
single target if that's your thing, or

1263
01:16:35.760 --> 01:16:39.600
you can just run up and punch
them. Uh, yeah, I don't

1264
01:16:39.600 --> 01:16:42.560
know, it's I I yeah,
So, like I was set to really

1265
01:16:42.680 --> 01:16:45.359
enjoy this because I thought their logo
was awesome, which goes a long way.

1266
01:16:45.800 --> 01:16:49.600
I thought Fetch was a good character. I'm a sucker for like drug

1267
01:16:50.079 --> 01:16:56.520
addict stories and video games for whatever
reason, because they just they don't do

1268
01:16:56.680 --> 01:17:01.239
it a lot. And I liked
the previous game a lot, but I

1269
01:17:01.560 --> 01:17:05.079
just I don't know this one.
The first impression was was largely negative,

1270
01:17:05.319 --> 01:17:09.319
just like looking at the structure of
it and looking at the like, oh,

1271
01:17:09.439 --> 01:17:11.840
there's like a lot of battle arenas, and some of them you get

1272
01:17:11.840 --> 01:17:15.119
access to if you have a save
for Infamous Too. It's the one that's

1273
01:17:15.159 --> 01:17:18.039
like seems like it has Delson and
it maybe, but you know, it's

1274
01:17:18.119 --> 01:17:21.800
barely been six months since that game. Came out, so I would I

1275
01:17:21.800 --> 01:17:26.199
wouldn't say I expected a lot of
substantive changes to the and then like the

1276
01:17:26.239 --> 01:17:29.640
week before the frame came out,
they laid off large chunks of it.

1277
01:17:29.760 --> 01:17:32.079
Was also that, but but you
know, like I can just kind of

1278
01:17:32.119 --> 01:17:34.640
assume that this would basically be more
of the same, with more of a

1279
01:17:35.039 --> 01:17:40.159
focus on the neon powers. I
wish it was that. I mean,

1280
01:17:40.279 --> 01:17:44.439
it feels like it's not enough,
Like it doesn't feel as good as the

1281
01:17:44.520 --> 01:17:48.039
content in the full game. That's
a shame so far. Anyway, this

1282
01:17:48.159 --> 01:17:50.520
is the second time they've done this. This is a standalone thing. It's

1283
01:17:50.560 --> 01:17:56.279
not an add on that zombie thing. For I really liked that thing.

1284
01:17:56.319 --> 01:17:59.399
I mean, it was pretty it
was interesting. They gave like they came

1285
01:17:59.439 --> 01:18:00.319
over for one thing. They came
up with like a whole new set of

1286
01:18:00.399 --> 01:18:05.119
powers for the character, like you
could straight up fly right and just the

1287
01:18:05.279 --> 01:18:08.920
like faux New Orleans setting was really
cool. Yeah, it was. I

1288
01:18:08.960 --> 01:18:15.279
mean it played into the HALLOWEENI and
like vampire kind of motif really well.

1289
01:18:15.960 --> 01:18:18.960
I will record a quick look of
it at some point so I will play

1290
01:18:19.039 --> 01:18:23.359
more of it. I'm kind of
I am I am a little curious to

1291
01:18:23.399 --> 01:18:26.119
kind of see if there's any more
to it, but it seems like it

1292
01:18:26.199 --> 01:18:29.640
kind of laid itself out up front. The story sets itself up. You're

1293
01:18:29.680 --> 01:18:33.680
introducing new characters, and then go, you can kill me in that game.

1294
01:18:33.960 --> 01:18:36.960
I'm like thirty percent of the Russian
mobsters. They scanned my face and

1295
01:18:38.000 --> 01:18:40.880
everything. So whenever you're going to
kill those dudes, like, it's usually

1296
01:18:40.920 --> 01:18:44.439
me, and I wonder, like
in this in this add on, specifically,

1297
01:18:44.800 --> 01:18:46.000
in a second sent, I wrote
the cover story for Yeah, no,

1298
01:18:46.039 --> 01:18:49.399
I know I've seen I saw your
pedestrian face in the main game.

1299
01:18:49.439 --> 01:18:54.039
I just wonder because like the main
enemy is basically like the Russian mobs.

1300
01:18:54.319 --> 01:18:56.920
Oh really, than, I bet
I'm all over that then maybe Yeah,

1301
01:18:56.960 --> 01:18:59.720
people send me screen caps and stuff
of my face on posters is like political

1302
01:18:59.800 --> 01:19:05.520
can it's I'm all over that game, weird. I hope they're all right.

1303
01:19:05.920 --> 01:19:09.720
You know now that they're part of
Sony, Yeah, you know,

1304
01:19:10.479 --> 01:19:14.680
big staff reduction after project ships,
part of a giant corporate machine. Now

1305
01:19:15.600 --> 01:19:18.279
hopefully they'll staff back up and do
something cool. Yeah, hopefully that does

1306
01:19:18.319 --> 01:19:21.720
something cool. Yes, yeah,
I guess we will see. So that's

1307
01:19:21.760 --> 01:19:25.439
it. Yeah, Yeah, That's
that's pretty much it, all right.

1308
01:19:25.439 --> 01:19:31.439
I haven't really been been touching too
much else all right lately, cool weirdly

1309
01:19:31.520 --> 01:19:34.720
just want to keep playing Diablo.
Yeah, I can identify with that.

1310
01:19:34.880 --> 01:19:38.079
Yeah, I'm gonna do some more
of that. I don't think we all

1311
01:19:38.079 --> 01:19:41.199
are. Are you gonna get it
on the Xbox Drew, I don't know,

1312
01:19:41.520 --> 01:19:45.560
yeah, I don't know. Think
about the digital stuff, is it?

1313
01:19:45.760 --> 01:19:50.560
It's all full price? Yes,
so much better just to digital all

1314
01:19:50.560 --> 01:19:54.359
the time, and the way to
go we have you know, that might

1315
01:19:54.399 --> 01:19:58.680
come back up in emails. Let's
sit on that topic. I haven't really

1316
01:19:58.720 --> 01:20:01.279
played anything that I wasn't already plane
yeah, or hasn't already been discussed.

1317
01:20:01.800 --> 01:20:08.439
We had our our second set of
recreational matches this weekend and went considerably better

1318
01:20:08.479 --> 01:20:13.199
than the first. Good. Still
in the loser's bracket. Yeah, Although,

1319
01:20:13.319 --> 01:20:15.840
like it's weird to see discussion on
forums and stuff about this tournament,

1320
01:20:15.960 --> 01:20:20.239
like people only looking at results as
like some kind of indicator of like how

1321
01:20:20.279 --> 01:20:24.119
good the teams are or whatever do
you expect? I guess it's all about

1322
01:20:24.119 --> 01:20:27.319
who wins and loses, right,
competition, right, But like you didn't

1323
01:20:27.319 --> 01:20:30.439
have any kind of pre filtering mechanism, Like teams just got matched up with

1324
01:20:30.479 --> 01:20:33.439
each other. So the team we
lost to upfront is looking like the probably

1325
01:20:33.520 --> 01:20:36.439
the favorite to win the whole thing, you know. So you know,

1326
01:20:36.560 --> 01:20:42.119
obviously different teams have different strength to
them, and that's self to shake out

1327
01:20:42.199 --> 01:20:47.239
over time. But I'm feeling okay
as we continue our novisque rise through the

1328
01:20:47.279 --> 01:20:50.680
lower bracket. Yeah, see how
it goes. I guess that's it.

1329
01:20:51.239 --> 01:20:57.800
I'll just keep playing swing copters.
Jesus. We'll talk about video game news,

1330
01:21:00.199 --> 01:21:02.880
although this is kind of tangentially related
to video games. Remember when Twitch

1331
01:21:02.960 --> 01:21:10.600
was gonna get bought. Yeah,
the Google rolled out on which Twitch dot

1332
01:21:10.680 --> 01:21:14.239
Television was up for sale. Yeah
to Google. Uh huh, Twitch dot

1333
01:21:14.279 --> 01:21:16.680
tv you got bought. Yeah,
no, that's happened months ago. Google

1334
01:21:16.720 --> 01:21:21.199
picked him up, not by Google. Amazon bought Twitch tv. Yep.

1335
01:21:23.680 --> 01:21:27.279
I know. This is the first
anyvode stream from my fire phone. Uh.

1336
01:21:28.279 --> 01:21:30.239
You know. There's not a whole
lot of information from either party at

1337
01:21:30.279 --> 01:21:33.479
the moment. It's like a quote, there's quotes from the tops of both

1338
01:21:33.520 --> 01:21:40.039
companies. Rather, it's like,
we're proud to twitches Inshane value were like

1339
01:21:40.159 --> 01:21:44.920
Twitch, we obsess over customers and
like to think differently, and we look

1340
01:21:44.960 --> 01:21:49.359
forward to learning from the obsess over
customers as to Twitch to deliver an Xbox

1341
01:21:49.399 --> 01:21:53.720
in seven hours. No, no, no, not Amazon, Amazon.

1342
01:21:54.199 --> 01:21:58.319
I have zero problem with visas.
Yes, but he's talking about Twitch.

1343
01:21:58.399 --> 01:22:01.760
Yeah, ok, yes, how
Twitch obsesses over customers, I don't know,

1344
01:22:02.960 --> 01:22:05.560
but just watch playroom streams all the
time. But he thinks they do

1345
01:22:06.000 --> 01:22:10.439
enough that they were willing to pay
nine hundred and seventy million dollars. Yeah,

1346
01:22:10.560 --> 01:22:15.359
okay for this operation. Yeah.
It's you know, it's hard to

1347
01:22:15.359 --> 01:22:17.800
say what's going to happen from here. It's interesting that they well, I

1348
01:22:17.840 --> 01:22:21.399
guess this is kind of a larger
Twitch issue, but like he focuses in

1349
01:22:21.640 --> 01:22:28.079
that those talking points about how Twitch
is a video game streaming service. Yeah,

1350
01:22:28.239 --> 01:22:31.399
and it builds itself as that,
but like it's a it's a video

1351
01:22:31.520 --> 01:22:35.560
streaming service. No, so they
that is from a policy perspective, they

1352
01:22:35.640 --> 01:22:40.359
shut down streams that are not games. Really, yeah, that is part

1353
01:22:40.439 --> 01:22:44.520
of the switch to Twitch, the
dropping of Justin TV as a part of

1354
01:22:44.600 --> 01:22:46.720
that. They if you are not
playing games, they don't want you.

1355
01:22:47.239 --> 01:22:51.079
Really, when did that happen?
That was a while? It goes last

1356
01:22:51.119 --> 01:22:55.039
year. Sometimes, Oh I completely
missed that. I think even before that

1357
01:22:55.119 --> 01:22:58.000
they frowned on it. Yeah,
yeah, always. But like you know,

1358
01:22:58.039 --> 01:23:00.560
the stuff we do, you know, like you know, half of

1359
01:23:00.800 --> 01:23:02.159
some of our Lives shows are shots
of us on a couch. But there's

1360
01:23:02.279 --> 01:23:04.720
enough video game stuff in there.
Yeah, I don't know. I mean

1361
01:23:04.880 --> 01:23:08.239
that, I think you know that
stuff is fine. Yeah, you know

1362
01:23:08.359 --> 01:23:10.840
they play fast and loose with it
as required. But yeah, if it's

1363
01:23:10.920 --> 01:23:15.000
if you're just like not playing games
and just doing stuff, I think they

1364
01:23:15.199 --> 01:23:18.680
will eventually shut you off. Wow, I guess YouTube is a live stream

1365
01:23:18.760 --> 01:23:24.079
thing now it is. Yeah,
that's kind of failed and really do much.

1366
01:23:24.159 --> 01:23:28.000
But I mean, you know what
you looking at this deal like you

1367
01:23:28.079 --> 01:23:30.159
have to wonder what the long game
is for this, you know, like

1368
01:23:30.279 --> 01:23:36.800
it hand Microsoft buying Skype, I
think so or eBay. I feel like

1369
01:23:38.319 --> 01:23:42.439
not Microsoft. When eBay bought Skype, that made no sense, right that

1370
01:23:42.520 --> 01:23:45.600
happened. Yeah, now this this
makes way more sense than that because you

1371
01:23:45.640 --> 01:23:48.279
know, Amazon already has a massive
interest in video on demand and that kind

1372
01:23:48.319 --> 01:23:54.920
of thing. Yeah, you know, I've got a huge infrastructure for video

1373
01:23:55.000 --> 01:23:59.479
programming of different types, you know, like who knows, like specifically what

1374
01:23:59.560 --> 01:24:01.199
the strategic value of this thing is, but you would assume they have some

1375
01:24:01.319 --> 01:24:06.399
kind of plan to tie this into
their existing entertainment offerings Twitch. Maybe I

1376
01:24:06.439 --> 01:24:08.960
don't know. I don't know,
I don't know what that ends up being.

1377
01:24:09.000 --> 01:24:11.159
You know, I don't think there's
there's like natural stuff you could do,

1378
01:24:11.359 --> 01:24:14.199
like, you know, just from
just a nuts and bolts level that's

1379
01:24:14.239 --> 01:24:16.600
like small potatoes or whatever, but
you know, just stuff like oh,

1380
01:24:16.680 --> 01:24:19.760
when you are streaming a game on
Twitch, the link to buy that game

1381
01:24:19.800 --> 01:24:24.479
on Amazon is right there. Yeah, you know, like like that sort

1382
01:24:24.520 --> 01:24:29.199
of just like baseline integration stuff that
you almost want to not do because it

1383
01:24:29.319 --> 01:24:31.079
is so obvious, but you know, like like bigger picture like yeah,

1384
01:24:31.119 --> 01:24:34.840
I don't think they fit together really
well. Yeah, which is maybe why

1385
01:24:34.880 --> 01:24:38.760
you buy them, because it's something
that Amazon doesn't do any of, right,

1386
01:24:38.960 --> 01:24:42.399
Like you can't live stream through Amazon, but with this, they get,

1387
01:24:42.520 --> 01:24:45.319
you know, a platform that already
does that. Granted it's focused on

1388
01:24:45.439 --> 01:24:48.800
video games, but Amazon has been
at least pretending to be interested in video

1389
01:24:48.840 --> 01:24:53.960
games for a bit here. Sure. I mean, obviously we don't have

1390
01:24:54.039 --> 01:24:57.319
insight into their financials, but like
I never thought that Twitch itself was like

1391
01:24:58.159 --> 01:25:00.319
profitable enough as a venture to be
attractive for that reason, right, Yeah,

1392
01:25:00.319 --> 01:25:03.279
well it's got to be more of
a strategic type thing. Yeah.

1393
01:25:03.439 --> 01:25:08.800
I mean they're a bulk. You
know, they're they're they're a bulk.

1394
01:25:08.840 --> 01:25:11.279
I mean the thing, you know, you have tons of people running streams,

1395
01:25:11.319 --> 01:25:14.800
but you know if like two people
are watching it and it's like a

1396
01:25:14.920 --> 01:25:15.960
guy in his underwear playing a video
game, like, you know, what

1397
01:25:16.039 --> 01:25:19.680
do you what ads do you sell
on that? But they were okay,

1398
01:25:19.760 --> 01:25:23.800
yams. Yeah, I mean I
guess Amazon carries everything, so at some

1399
01:25:23.880 --> 01:25:28.439
point, why not sitting on Yeah? Yeah, but you know then they

1400
01:25:28.520 --> 01:25:31.319
also carry these huge streams where that's
probably where they make it up, is

1401
01:25:31.359 --> 01:25:35.520
you know, these are these huge, highly lucrative or more lucrative like esports

1402
01:25:35.600 --> 01:25:40.640
broadcasts and that sort of stuff.
I don't know, sure, yeah,

1403
01:25:40.640 --> 01:25:42.439
I don't know. Twitch is a
weird thing. It always was. It's

1404
01:25:42.479 --> 01:25:44.880
just one of those things where it's
like you're just selling pre roll ads and

1405
01:25:45.159 --> 01:25:49.279
mid roll ads on live stream videos
because no one watches the archives buy and

1406
01:25:49.359 --> 01:25:53.640
large. That's why they felt justified
and shutting it down or or you know,

1407
01:25:53.760 --> 01:25:56.800
stripping it way way down. So
it's compared to what it was because

1408
01:25:56.840 --> 01:25:59.600
it's just not what they're good at
and not not what they're focused on.

1409
01:25:59.720 --> 01:26:04.760
Maybe Amazon gives them that because Amazon
delivers video. Maybe Amazon doesn't one hundred

1410
01:26:04.760 --> 01:26:08.800
percent know yet, you know,
yeah, maybe at some point it's just

1411
01:26:08.880 --> 01:26:11.079
like maybe just the balance sheet looks
good and you're like, we have the

1412
01:26:11.119 --> 01:26:14.560
money to do this. I'm sure
it makes sense on some level. Google

1413
01:26:14.640 --> 01:26:15.439
wants it, so it's probably worth
getting, right, you know, I

1414
01:26:15.680 --> 01:26:17.399
don't know, Yeah, you know
that kind of thing. I mean,

1415
01:26:17.439 --> 01:26:21.159
obviously, live streaming video, live
delivery of video content on the Internet is

1416
01:26:21.199 --> 01:26:25.720
something people want. Yeah, even
if nobody knows exactly what the endgame is

1417
01:26:25.800 --> 01:26:29.439
for you yet, right right,
You just wonder like how custom does the

1418
01:26:29.560 --> 01:26:31.800
solution need to be to live stream
video on the internet. You know,

1419
01:26:31.920 --> 01:26:36.399
we did it for years and years
before there was Twitch, and you know

1420
01:26:36.760 --> 01:26:40.640
there's no shortage of ways to live
stream stuff on the Internet. Now it

1421
01:26:40.680 --> 01:26:44.760
gets easier all the time. It's
just a matter of like can you scale

1422
01:26:44.800 --> 01:26:46.079
it? Can you can you make
it a business? Or is it just

1423
01:26:46.199 --> 01:26:50.119
like a weird custom solution. You're
like, go to Akamne and do that

1424
01:26:50.199 --> 01:26:53.840
deal or whatever. If nothing else
I thought I was. I was kind

1425
01:26:53.880 --> 01:26:58.399
of pleased by the news purely for
the fact that every major video service on

1426
01:26:58.439 --> 01:27:00.920
the Internet is not ending up in
the hands of the same company. Sure.

1427
01:27:00.039 --> 01:27:02.960
Yeah, Like if you know Google, Google has to buy hit Box

1428
01:27:03.079 --> 01:27:08.439
now, yeah, maybe I've stream
dot Com I don't. Probably good spread

1429
01:27:08.560 --> 01:27:14.119
stuff around them still out there.
Streams probably the biggest, and they've got

1430
01:27:14.199 --> 01:27:16.520
a bigger overseas presence, I think
than Twitch probably, that's my understanding.

1431
01:27:16.720 --> 01:27:20.039
So yeah, who knows where the
stuff will go, you know. Yeah,

1432
01:27:20.199 --> 01:27:23.680
time will tell. I can't imagine
there will be any radical shifts in

1433
01:27:23.720 --> 01:27:25.880
the short term. Yeah, but
it's one of the things where it's like

1434
01:27:25.960 --> 01:27:30.159
now that Twitch definitely like is guaranteed
to have money. Uh you know that

1435
01:27:30.920 --> 01:27:33.199
you could see a scenario where the
companies that want to get theirs might come

1436
01:27:33.239 --> 01:27:36.199
out of the woodwork now yeah and
be like, hey, it's you're streaming

1437
01:27:36.239 --> 01:27:40.760
our content, don't And then maybe
at that point they say, also,

1438
01:27:40.840 --> 01:27:44.600
we're selling your your content right alongside
this stream of it. It's an ad

1439
01:27:44.680 --> 01:27:46.600
for your content. Fuck you.
Amazon is actually big enough to make that

1440
01:27:46.840 --> 01:27:51.239
argument and have it sticks. Sure, it could actually be good for streamers

1441
01:27:51.279 --> 01:27:54.520
in the long run, if they
if they fight that fight, we'll just

1442
01:27:54.520 --> 01:27:57.399
see and we'll see how much they
mess with the formula that they've got.

1443
01:27:57.479 --> 01:27:59.760
Now, I don't know, I
like amahol, I do. I mean

1444
01:28:00.239 --> 01:28:03.159
it it's as a as a retail
vendor, they're incredible, Like I mean,

1445
01:28:03.199 --> 01:28:06.279
I'm sure drooping a test of that
pretty good in order to and receive

1446
01:28:06.359 --> 01:28:10.680
the video game console in the same
day. Obviously not everybody has that luxury

1447
01:28:10.720 --> 01:28:14.000
at the moment, but you know, that's an extreme example. But I

1448
01:28:14.039 --> 01:28:18.680
don't know if a robot and the
flying robot, yeah, okay, something

1449
01:28:18.720 --> 01:28:23.880
to aspire to. But I mean
I saw some people grassing on Twitter about

1450
01:28:23.920 --> 01:28:27.000
like what Amazon has done with Comicology
after they bought them out and made some

1451
01:28:27.279 --> 01:28:30.720
kind of crappy changes there. I
remember thinking, like Amazon bought woot dot

1452
01:28:30.760 --> 01:28:32.399
com way back when, did they? Yeah? No, shore, yeah,

1453
01:28:32.399 --> 01:28:35.800
a long time ago. I did
not know that, and went on

1454
01:28:35.920 --> 01:28:40.760
and on like seemingly unchanged for a
long time except for like, you know,

1455
01:28:40.840 --> 01:28:43.119
an Amazon copyright at the bottom,
and I was like, wow,

1456
01:28:43.199 --> 01:28:45.760
yeah, they're like totally a good
natured company that's gonna let cool things they

1457
01:28:45.800 --> 01:28:48.319
acquire continue to do the same thing. It's not the same, but no,

1458
01:28:48.479 --> 01:28:50.319
no, that's so that's where the
story is going. I don't know

1459
01:28:50.319 --> 01:28:54.880
if you saw the guy or the
people who founded woot have gotten out of

1460
01:28:54.920 --> 01:29:00.520
there and founded a new site that
is effectively woot really and the first like

1461
01:29:00.600 --> 01:29:03.359
complete with the like really well written, pithy product descriptions every day, and

1462
01:29:03.479 --> 01:29:06.560
the first one was I forget what
the product was. I think it was

1463
01:29:06.600 --> 01:29:10.600
like a refurbished rumba or something,
of course, but it was really of

1464
01:29:10.680 --> 01:29:14.159
course it was, but it was
this really fucking pointed criticism of I mean,

1465
01:29:14.279 --> 01:29:16.520
like without naming names of Amazon coming
in and taking them over and fucking

1466
01:29:16.600 --> 01:29:20.279
up what they did. Uh,
Like it was super obvious what they were.

1467
01:29:20.479 --> 01:29:25.319
My problem with wood it seems like
there's a wood off every fucking goddamn

1468
01:29:25.359 --> 01:29:28.079
week. Are they still doing that? Though? Yeah, I stopped keeping

1469
01:29:28.119 --> 01:29:30.439
up. I still get wood emails. I don't know why. Today it's

1470
01:29:30.439 --> 01:29:34.800
a TV, but I feel like, you know, like once a week,

1471
01:29:34.840 --> 01:29:39.800
once every two weeks, the woodoff
siren is in my inbox and I'm

1472
01:29:39.800 --> 01:29:43.640
just like, this isn't you can't. No, Yeah, it's gotta be

1473
01:29:43.680 --> 01:29:46.960
special, It's gotta be special.
The fuck is wood oh Man gets out.

1474
01:29:47.000 --> 01:29:49.680
It's yeah, it was probably too
young. It's a fun batch of

1475
01:29:49.720 --> 01:29:53.760
internet. Basically, like they just
they would offer a product for twenty four

1476
01:29:53.800 --> 01:29:56.720
hours. They only offered one product, and it was usually like refurbished or

1477
01:29:56.760 --> 01:30:00.520
something they would typically get a good
deal on almost always or if always a

1478
01:30:00.560 --> 01:30:01.920
limited quantity. So yeah, so
but it would be like you know,

1479
01:30:02.000 --> 01:30:04.760
hey, we got hard drives today, and then you you know, you'd

1480
01:30:04.800 --> 01:30:09.119
go back in midnight and be like
we got fans. Yeah, but if

1481
01:30:09.159 --> 01:30:12.520
the prices were amazing. So it
wasn't all tech stuff mostly tech stuff.

1482
01:30:12.840 --> 01:30:15.119
They were techie fans. I got
I got it. I bought a fan.

1483
01:30:15.239 --> 01:30:19.319
I bought one of those fucking fan
the motionless weird Styson fans. It

1484
01:30:19.399 --> 01:30:24.039
was a fan recently, if it
was if it was a fan, it's

1485
01:30:24.079 --> 01:30:28.600
guaranteed that it would be like a
USB powered fan or you know, yeah,

1486
01:30:28.880 --> 01:30:32.439
dispense the smell of and then truly
yeah yeah right, and then randomly

1487
01:30:32.439 --> 01:30:34.159
they would be all of a sudden
they be like it's a wood off.

1488
01:30:34.439 --> 01:30:39.920
And basically they would have things that
they had like super limited quantities of and

1489
01:30:40.000 --> 01:30:43.439
then they normally if they ran out
an item, you just can't be able.

1490
01:30:43.840 --> 01:30:45.600
You went to the site and it
was useless. You'd come back the

1491
01:30:45.600 --> 01:30:47.159
next day just look at the item
you wish you could during a wood off,

1492
01:30:47.199 --> 01:30:49.319
they're like, all right, that
item's done. Here's the next fucking

1493
01:30:49.359 --> 01:30:51.800
thing. Fuck you. And it
was just like we just plow through stuff

1494
01:30:53.319 --> 01:30:56.920
and then you would eventually get the
bag of crap where they just like you

1495
01:30:57.039 --> 01:30:59.680
pay a fee for the bag of
cracks. Dollar, don't know what it

1496
01:30:59.800 --> 01:31:01.840
is. Dollar. Yeah, And
I've never fucking gone everyone because the site

1497
01:31:01.840 --> 01:31:05.840
always crashed every time the bag of
crap came up, because it's just variably

1498
01:31:05.920 --> 01:31:09.159
like one person who got the back
of crap, would you know find that

1499
01:31:09.159 --> 01:31:12.239
it was like it's a fucking television
that was and all this other cool that

1500
01:31:12.319 --> 01:31:15.319
was. That was the legendary.
That was the legendary story was yeah,

1501
01:31:15.520 --> 01:31:17.439
because you didn't know that something was
the bag of crap would be something amazing,

1502
01:31:17.880 --> 01:31:20.039
but it's only one of them.
It's like, let's make a deal,

1503
01:31:20.880 --> 01:31:23.720
like a dollar you might get like, I don't know, it's an

1504
01:31:23.800 --> 01:31:26.319
USB stick. Most people said it's
like, yeah, it was a bag

1505
01:31:26.359 --> 01:31:29.000
of like I got a bag of
pencil erasers or something like that. But

1506
01:31:29.039 --> 01:31:30.800
then one person who paid the one
dollar got like a seventy inch TV.

1507
01:31:31.640 --> 01:31:34.880
Wow, that's crazy. Yeah,
but I've never managed to success successfully buy

1508
01:31:34.920 --> 01:31:39.560
a bag. Had a bag of
crap in my cart once, but it

1509
01:31:39.640 --> 01:31:42.000
always died when the bag of crap
came up. But they still do this.

1510
01:31:43.159 --> 01:31:45.039
I don't know if they do the
bag anymore. I haven't seen that.

1511
01:31:45.079 --> 01:31:46.039
They haven't seen the bag in a
long time. But I mean the

1512
01:31:46.079 --> 01:31:49.039
site still exists. They've built a
bunch of other like subsites around it.

1513
01:31:49.119 --> 01:31:51.560
Yeah, there's like there's like T
shirt there's a T shirt site like a

1514
01:31:53.039 --> 01:31:55.600
site basically, and there's like a
one that does wine, yeah, like

1515
01:31:55.720 --> 01:32:00.640
daily wine, like wine wine,
bottle of wine. Nope, I need

1516
01:32:00.680 --> 01:32:01.560
to find out. I can't remember
the name of their new site. It's

1517
01:32:01.600 --> 01:32:08.520
a similar nonsense word. Okay,
that's exciting. And it looks it looks

1518
01:32:08.560 --> 01:32:12.880
like Woot with a different color like
original Woot, just really bare stripped down

1519
01:32:13.000 --> 01:32:15.800
web design, just a picture of
a product, a price, and like

1520
01:32:15.840 --> 01:32:18.279
a paragraph of text. I'll buy
that. Yeah, I need. I

1521
01:32:18.359 --> 01:32:23.720
need to start keeping keeping an eye
on that site. I've bought. I've

1522
01:32:23.760 --> 01:32:26.720
gotten some amazing deals on some really
good stuff from woot. I also bought

1523
01:32:26.720 --> 01:32:28.840
a whole lot of garbage. Yeah, I bought a ton of fucking trash.

1524
01:32:29.399 --> 01:32:32.880
I bought a what it's I bought
the rumba that's for wet for solids

1525
01:32:32.920 --> 01:32:36.239
a. The rumbas that washed floors
is a vacuum. That's a vacuum.

1526
01:32:36.279 --> 01:32:39.880
What's the other one? Scuba?
Yeah, I bought a scuba and then

1527
01:32:39.960 --> 01:32:42.279
never did anything with it. It
showed up and I'm like, okay,

1528
01:32:42.319 --> 01:32:44.760
well now I can do this,
but there's too much stuff in this room

1529
01:32:45.319 --> 01:32:46.600
for even a robot to handle it. So I'm not even gonna build it.

1530
01:32:46.880 --> 01:32:49.520
I don't know. Remember that thing
I bought that was a little plug

1531
01:32:49.600 --> 01:32:54.399
in for the Xbox three sixty controller. It was battery operated. It plugged

1532
01:32:54.439 --> 01:32:58.640
into the chat headset. Oh yeah, the voice changer thing jack. Yeah,

1533
01:32:59.000 --> 01:33:01.399
so it would let you like modulate
your voice with these stupid like robot

1534
01:33:01.479 --> 01:33:04.880
voices and stuff. Yeah, but
it also let you It also lets you

1535
01:33:05.479 --> 01:33:09.600
record a short sample and at the
touch of a button, it would play

1536
01:33:09.600 --> 01:33:13.039
that sample through the mic input.
So it was the most fun thing in

1537
01:33:13.039 --> 01:33:14.600
the world. So I went.
It was a night It was a nightmare.

1538
01:33:14.600 --> 01:33:16.560
I went and held it up to
a speaker and recorded the solo,

1539
01:33:16.680 --> 01:33:20.560
like ten seconds of the solo from
Crazy Train into it, and like I

1540
01:33:20.640 --> 01:33:24.319
was playing man playing like Hall of
Duty, and like whenever I would get

1541
01:33:24.319 --> 01:33:26.720
a kill, I would just hit
the button and like play that. It's

1542
01:33:26.720 --> 01:33:30.840
amazing. It's like twenty bucks.
That was something that I had never seen

1543
01:33:30.880 --> 01:33:33.520
anywhere, but on woot. Oh
what a dumb sight. That was fun.

1544
01:33:34.159 --> 01:33:36.279
That was That was It was always
a fun day around the office when

1545
01:33:36.359 --> 01:33:40.439
wood offf happened. Yeah, work
stopped. Yeah. Yes, it was

1546
01:33:40.520 --> 01:33:43.720
very difficult to get things done because
everybody was She always knew who was cool

1547
01:33:43.960 --> 01:33:47.279
by who was talking about the wood
off on Facebook or somewhere head boom,

1548
01:33:47.520 --> 01:33:53.640
Yeah, we'll talk about wood off
now sometimes. Oh yeah, I'll find

1549
01:33:53.680 --> 01:33:58.079
that site. We should should check
that out, man anyway twitch huh Yeah,

1550
01:33:58.079 --> 01:34:00.159
I don't know. Maybe it seems
like something that could be Okay,

1551
01:34:00.960 --> 01:34:04.159
we will see. I feel like
the Google stuff, like you know,

1552
01:34:04.239 --> 01:34:11.159
what Google would do to that site
seems like an inevitable like worsening of that

1553
01:34:11.279 --> 01:34:14.000
product. I think. So even
if it, you know, got them

1554
01:34:14.079 --> 01:34:15.800
to a point where like oh well
archives are automatically tied to YouTube and blah,

1555
01:34:15.800 --> 01:34:20.399
blah blah. Like just the nature
of how they handle video and the

1556
01:34:20.479 --> 01:34:26.439
modestation thereof just seems like it would
it would not be good. Yeah,

1557
01:34:26.560 --> 01:34:30.039
that's possible the long term. The
like a few hours before they confirmed the

1558
01:34:30.119 --> 01:34:33.840
sale, the Wall Street Journal had
reported this and they mentioned the Google stuff,

1559
01:34:34.039 --> 01:34:36.199
like apparently Google had you know,
a big surprise they're all in the

1560
01:34:36.239 --> 01:34:40.600
Bay area. Yeah, Google had
talks Twitch about acquiring them. That I

1561
01:34:40.640 --> 01:34:43.479
guess that, you know they I
think cooled was the word they used on

1562
01:34:43.560 --> 01:34:46.159
the talks yea early on. So
who knows what that means for them?

1563
01:34:46.199 --> 01:34:49.039
You know, I wonder if that
means they like redouble their efforts on the

1564
01:34:49.119 --> 01:34:53.359
YouTube live offering, or or maybe
it's just I mean, maybe it's just

1565
01:34:53.359 --> 01:34:57.079
not a business that's actually worth getting
into. And the way that twitches sure,

1566
01:34:58.520 --> 01:35:00.640
you know, like what are you
getting a piece of at that point?

1567
01:35:00.720 --> 01:35:01.920
Like you go compete with them on
video game stuff? Are you just

1568
01:35:01.960 --> 01:35:05.920
gonna build a general purpose live streamer
which they have? Yeah, yeah,

1569
01:35:06.039 --> 01:35:11.159
that's fair, all right. Who
is our resident Nintendo fan? I asked,

1570
01:35:11.239 --> 01:35:14.479
I ask this knowing the answer to
this question. That's me. I'm

1571
01:35:14.520 --> 01:35:17.119
glad you're here because we need somebody
in this office that like Smash Brothers.

1572
01:35:17.279 --> 01:35:20.159
Yeah, it's great, great game. All right, I'm glad he's here.

1573
01:35:20.640 --> 01:35:24.720
Sure now, now we don't have
to act like we want to play

1574
01:35:24.760 --> 01:35:27.880
Smash Brothers anymore. I will be
bad at some Smash Brothers. Yeah,

1575
01:35:28.039 --> 01:35:30.239
yeah, I mean I don't hate
it. You know, I really enjoyed

1576
01:35:30.279 --> 01:35:32.600
the first If you need me for
a quick look, I'll gladly sit down

1577
01:35:32.600 --> 01:35:35.520
and play some Smash Brothers. I
just can't get excited about it, that's

1578
01:35:35.560 --> 01:35:39.680
all. I can't play it.
Yeah, it's just pure silly fun.

1579
01:35:39.800 --> 01:35:42.119
What do you mean you can't play
it. I'm just bad, bad at

1580
01:35:42.159 --> 01:35:44.680
it. Yeah, it's okay,
you could be bad at Yeah, I'm

1581
01:35:44.840 --> 01:35:45.920
great at it. I'm not very
good at it. It's just fun.

1582
01:35:46.159 --> 01:35:50.279
Well, Dan, have you seen
this giant Smash Brothers leak that seems to

1583
01:35:50.319 --> 01:35:54.319
have occurred? I did, and
I'm pretty happy about one part in particular.

1584
01:35:54.359 --> 01:35:58.079
All right, duck Dog. Yeah, okay, you know, what

1585
01:35:58.680 --> 01:36:00.319
do you say? Knuckles? Oh? I don't care, right knuckles it,

1586
01:36:00.399 --> 01:36:03.800
I don't know. I just end
up duck hun Dogs great, that

1587
01:36:03.920 --> 01:36:06.840
awesome. I also like the duck
Hunting Dog, although Dog from Duck h

1588
01:36:08.000 --> 01:36:10.600
I hadn't heard that. That's great, although you gotta think about like what

1589
01:36:10.680 --> 01:36:12.600
his attacks are going to be,
Like, I assume one of them is

1590
01:36:12.680 --> 01:36:15.560
going to be just the ans zapper
dog with a gun. Just yeah,

1591
01:36:16.560 --> 01:36:18.800
that's an item pick up is Yeah, do any of the characters have just

1592
01:36:18.960 --> 01:36:23.720
like guns by default? Star Fox
you can kind of shoot lightning or whatever.

1593
01:36:23.760 --> 01:36:26.640
This Fox and Falco just have straight
up space I guess yeah, I

1594
01:36:26.640 --> 01:36:29.520
guess fucking Mario just shoots fireballs.
Huh yeah. Yeah, the Lenk's got

1595
01:36:29.560 --> 01:36:30.960
a bone arrow. I mean they
have projectiles for sure. Oh wait,

1596
01:36:31.000 --> 01:36:33.640
no, the zapper is is the
zapper in there or is it the is

1597
01:36:33.720 --> 01:36:36.920
it's more of a space gun thing. They've got the superscope super Yeah,

1598
01:36:36.920 --> 01:36:41.720
that's the thing. I don't think
they have the zappers. Yeah yeah,

1599
01:36:41.920 --> 01:36:44.680
Well the zapper is only good if
this sound it makes when it shoots.

1600
01:36:44.720 --> 01:36:47.760
Is that? Fuck a the really
fucking weird metal noise spring of the actual

1601
01:36:47.840 --> 01:36:51.560
spring on the actual trigger getting pulled. Also, the assets imply that the

1602
01:36:51.640 --> 01:36:56.000
ducks will also be involved, Like
did he just throw duck corpses character?

1603
01:36:56.399 --> 01:36:59.199
It'd be great. The character is
the dog, but it looks like ducks

1604
01:37:00.000 --> 01:37:01.439
will kind of swoop in and help
with attacks. What if he threw clay

1605
01:37:01.479 --> 01:37:04.279
pigeons? Oh my god, it's
not there, you go. Yeah,

1606
01:37:04.479 --> 01:37:08.439
they never co mingled in the Nis
game. But now finally, maybe it

1607
01:37:08.520 --> 01:37:12.600
was him throwing him from off screen. A dog can't fucking work one of

1608
01:37:12.640 --> 01:37:15.479
those fucking things, that dog.
You know, the time's got to be

1609
01:37:15.560 --> 01:37:18.680
the laugh. I wonder if they
will work the laugh into an attack somehow.

1610
01:37:20.000 --> 01:37:23.600
I'm just I'm a little disappointed that
the dog appears to be like fully

1611
01:37:23.640 --> 01:37:28.600
modeled in three D and not just
I would prefer it was just like the

1612
01:37:28.720 --> 01:37:30.760
sprite from the original or something.
That's what I liked about Gaming one.

1613
01:37:30.800 --> 01:37:33.159
There are very few frames too.
I mean, you know, you would

1614
01:37:33.159 --> 01:37:35.600
animate it like you would have to
animate it in three D somehow, But

1615
01:37:35.720 --> 01:37:39.520
like stylistically, I sort of wish
it was that. Well, that's what

1616
01:37:39.600 --> 01:37:41.920
they do with mister Gamin watched.
I mean, they just he's a flat

1617
01:37:42.000 --> 01:37:45.159
dude that just like throws bacon atgec. Yeah, they kind of already made

1618
01:37:45.159 --> 01:37:46.720
that joke, I guess, right. Yeah, Yeah, that's fair.

1619
01:37:47.640 --> 01:37:50.239
Other new characters in this, I
mean, you know, and again this

1620
01:37:50.399 --> 01:37:54.439
is all alleged. This has not
been confirmed. It looks pretty any idea

1621
01:37:54.520 --> 01:37:57.840
where this stuff leaked out of.
It was just like a website up on

1622
01:37:58.319 --> 01:38:01.479
for Chaine. They think it was
from someone with the Nintendo because it's got

1623
01:38:01.560 --> 01:38:05.039
this thing in the corner that indicates
it was for the ESRB, like that

1624
01:38:05.159 --> 01:38:10.560
build was for the SRB to raid
or whatever. So it's probably from somewhere

1625
01:38:10.640 --> 01:38:15.640
within Nintendo. So who knows.
H Well, it's still rumored though,

1626
01:38:15.720 --> 01:38:18.880
Yeah, true, true or not. Other characters in this league are Shulk

1627
01:38:19.159 --> 01:38:26.079
from Zeno Blade whatever. Any fans
of shoulders, Yeah, there we go.

1628
01:38:27.319 --> 01:38:32.800
Let me hear it, Shure,
I fucking love Smash. You can

1629
01:38:32.840 --> 01:38:38.760
tell him serious because I call it
Smash Bowser Junior or anybody. Yeah,

1630
01:38:39.439 --> 01:38:44.159
he's great. Why guys, he's
He paints a scary mouth on his handkerchief

1631
01:38:44.199 --> 01:38:45.079
to make him look scared. What
if? What if I told you he

1632
01:38:45.279 --> 01:38:49.039
was complete with clown car even better? Because the clown car is great.

1633
01:38:49.159 --> 01:38:51.720
It's been a great thing ever since
Mario World. It's it's an awesome that

1634
01:38:51.880 --> 01:38:55.319
is They are talking about the flying
thing, right, Yeah, the one

1635
01:38:55.359 --> 01:38:58.680
with the clown face, the propeller
on the bottom. What are they?

1636
01:38:59.279 --> 01:39:01.079
Why does everybody keep calling it a
car. What else are you gonna call

1637
01:39:01.119 --> 01:39:04.479
it? I don't know. The
cracks, it's not really the cloud craft.

1638
01:39:04.600 --> 01:39:08.479
Maybe that would work. Yeah,
he'll have moves of this magic paint

1639
01:39:09.239 --> 01:39:12.199
copter. I mean it's not purely
a helicopter, propeller and a propeller.

1640
01:39:12.439 --> 01:39:16.000
Yeah, hopefully he'll have his paintbrush
from his debut in the stunning Mario Sunshine.

1641
01:39:16.960 --> 01:39:21.720
What he debuted in then he was
he painted Steven caused trouble around Delphino

1642
01:39:21.880 --> 01:39:28.560
Island iled Delphino. Maybe that's why
I don't like Bowser Jr. Oh he's

1643
01:39:28.600 --> 01:39:31.560
great, and it's better than taking
up seven fucking slots with couplings like Mario

1644
01:39:31.680 --> 01:39:33.840
Kart, which is great. I
mean that game's amazing, but like,

1645
01:39:34.279 --> 01:39:39.920
yeah, get some variety there.
Yeah, stuff, stuff appears to keep

1646
01:39:40.239 --> 01:39:43.039
to be continuing to leak out.
On this stuff, I'm having a hard

1647
01:39:43.079 --> 01:39:45.880
time even keeping up with everything in
your characters. No, that was it

1648
01:39:46.000 --> 01:39:50.159
for for well. I mean there
are returning characters that are also rumored,

1649
01:39:50.239 --> 01:39:55.760
like rob Robots, but I mean
they've been in previous games, you know,

1650
01:39:55.800 --> 01:39:58.800
it's just like they haven't been revealed
or confirmed yet for this one.

1651
01:39:58.840 --> 01:40:02.560
But still no Walloway probably a safe
bet that they'll be back. Yeah,

1652
01:40:02.920 --> 01:40:06.479
he's not. He doesn't really exist. He still doesn't have his own game,

1653
01:40:06.600 --> 01:40:12.520
and he still has not been been
in any game that does not have

1654
01:40:13.119 --> 01:40:19.640
like a large roster, like like
you pick characters from. No, it's

1655
01:40:19.680 --> 01:40:25.039
always Mario Tennis or party or golf
for soccer. It's never like he doesn't

1656
01:40:25.079 --> 01:40:28.239
just show up as a Carre's never
like a mid boss in No, No,

1657
01:40:28.479 --> 01:40:30.439
No, So we don't actually know
what he's like. He's not even

1658
01:40:30.560 --> 01:40:33.119
like three D where we know what
he's like. Tell you what, Watch

1659
01:40:33.199 --> 01:40:38.800
the amazing like ten minute opening to
Mario Power Tennis on the GameCube and you'll

1660
01:40:38.840 --> 01:40:43.319
know exactly what will Luigi and Warrio
were all about. While Luigi paints eyeballs

1661
01:40:43.399 --> 01:40:47.119
over poster Luigi and then mocks him
by calling a mister eyeballs. Take that,

1662
01:40:47.239 --> 01:40:51.600
mister eyeballs. It's great, it's
great, sounds great to me.

1663
01:40:51.880 --> 01:40:56.119
That intros. Seriously, everyone YouTube
of the Mario Power Tennis GameCube intro.

1664
01:40:56.239 --> 01:40:59.439
It's the best. For as much
as I love Warrio, I hate while

1665
01:40:59.520 --> 01:41:03.359
Luigi an equal and opposite amount,
because Warrio is perfect. What's cool?

1666
01:41:03.479 --> 01:41:08.279
He's cool? Cool? Are they
are they like matter and anti matter.

1667
01:41:09.279 --> 01:41:12.119
They're the same damn thing because Lank
you're and cool. It was more like

1668
01:41:12.279 --> 01:41:14.840
one of them was a shitty carbon
copy of a concept that came up with

1669
01:41:15.239 --> 01:41:16.960
On They came up with Warrio.
It broke the mold man. There was

1670
01:41:17.000 --> 01:41:20.159
nothing left to Doluigi has an upside
down el on his hat. If Luigi

1671
01:41:20.239 --> 01:41:24.720
and Wall Luigi collide to they annihilate
each other. No, they team up

1672
01:41:24.760 --> 01:41:29.760
and the Wah Brothers will take over
mar Luigi have no guess it makes sense.

1673
01:41:29.760 --> 01:41:32.800
Sounds like Wall Luigi is as fucking
sad and needless as Luigi is.

1674
01:41:33.399 --> 01:41:36.640
So I've never seen with a frown. He's always having a good time.

1675
01:41:38.720 --> 01:41:42.560
He's not sad. Luigi's someone invited
him somewhere because he so he knows he's

1676
01:41:42.680 --> 01:41:45.399
useless. Luigi's the sad sack.
Thank god. The roster of this game

1677
01:41:45.520 --> 01:41:50.119
is so big that they need more
people like me and Luigi is Colleen into

1678
01:41:50.119 --> 01:41:58.199
a two that was that Transylvanian A
fucking vampires. I played that game,

1679
01:41:58.279 --> 01:42:00.319
all right, Look I didn't I
didn't want to say it, but I

1680
01:42:00.439 --> 01:42:04.199
am working with Brownie Brown and we
are working on a willowi of Vampire count

1681
01:42:04.279 --> 01:42:12.079
will Luigi. It's coming to unannounced
platforms. I look forward to it.

1682
01:42:14.319 --> 01:42:16.399
I like I said, I can't
even get all these leaks straight because they're

1683
01:42:16.439 --> 01:42:19.840
coming Fast and Furious. But I
saw wait, Fast and Furious, it's

1684
01:42:19.880 --> 01:42:23.680
gonna be a smash brothers. Yep, you got me. This is where

1685
01:42:23.680 --> 01:42:26.279
I would make a joke about a
character name from Fast and Furious if I've

1686
01:42:26.279 --> 01:42:28.359
ever seen any of those movies.
The Rock. Yeah, the Rock,

1687
01:42:28.479 --> 01:42:30.800
that's the important No, but the
character names the Rocky. I think he's

1688
01:42:30.800 --> 01:42:33.680
just the Rock. He's just he's
just the Rock. Is that's the only

1689
01:42:33.760 --> 01:42:36.960
character you need? Okay, he's
in there, great, Yeah, man,

1690
01:42:38.039 --> 01:42:41.239
he's even when the matters, he
just eats snacks and just throws snacks

1691
01:42:41.279 --> 01:42:44.359
of people. There's some stuff floating
around today implying there's gonna be some kind

1692
01:42:44.359 --> 01:42:47.399
of spectator mode. Yeah, that
makes sense, But I don't think there's

1693
01:42:47.399 --> 01:42:50.159
a lot of details or clarity about
that as yet. I mean, some

1694
01:42:50.239 --> 01:42:54.319
of the features that they've been talking
about have been just things that try to

1695
01:42:54.359 --> 01:42:57.520
make it more appropriate for a competitive
environment. I mean, if they're they

1696
01:42:57.600 --> 01:43:00.079
go further done that road, then
that's sensible. Obviously people really care about

1697
01:43:00.119 --> 01:43:02.119
playing this game. Seriously. I
mean, they're out of their minds.

1698
01:43:02.159 --> 01:43:05.960
They're like, you know, like
whatever GameCube controller chapters and all some stuff,

1699
01:43:06.000 --> 01:43:08.760
like you know, they're going for
it. I guess good on them

1700
01:43:08.800 --> 01:43:11.680
for that. Like they're they're making
a game for that fan base. They

1701
01:43:11.720 --> 01:43:15.359
are embracing the competitive nature of this
game instead of just like Nintendo normally just

1702
01:43:15.439 --> 01:43:18.479
seems like so oblivious to shit like
that, ye that you just go like

1703
01:43:18.600 --> 01:43:21.479
why, Yeah, I actually like
this. This all is a little out

1704
01:43:21.479 --> 01:43:25.960
of character for them. Let me
throw this out there. About three or

1705
01:43:26.000 --> 01:43:28.960
four years ago, I've mentioned this
before. I set the Guinness World Record

1706
01:43:29.039 --> 01:43:31.760
for the longest fighting game marathon by
playing Smash Brothers Brawl on the Wii for

1707
01:43:32.800 --> 01:43:36.279
fighting game. Yeah, I feel
like, like, you know, like

1708
01:43:36.399 --> 01:43:41.000
longest party game or something. They
count of this fighting Okay, it has

1709
01:43:41.039 --> 01:43:44.760
since been taken from me. I
do not hold that Guinness World Record anymore.

1710
01:43:44.800 --> 01:43:47.239
So I get my Mario marathon one. Uh, probably be a pretty

1711
01:43:47.279 --> 01:43:51.760
hard sell to get you guys to
play the sixty two hours or whatever required

1712
01:43:51.840 --> 01:43:56.319
of Smash Brothers on we you when
it comes out to set another Guinness World

1713
01:43:56.359 --> 01:43:59.600
record. No, I'm not gonna
do that, not even a little bit.

1714
01:44:00.039 --> 01:44:02.159
Don't you like to start hallucinating at
that point? It's bad, It's

1715
01:44:02.199 --> 01:44:04.800
it's real bad. If you want
to do a two hour live stream where

1716
01:44:04.840 --> 01:44:10.159
we play Smash Brothers, I did
fifty hour live stream of playing Mario games.

1717
01:44:10.199 --> 01:44:12.640
That's the one I still have is
fifty straight hours of play Mario games

1718
01:44:13.119 --> 01:44:15.840
at thirty ideas. But there are
rules to these types of marathons, right,

1719
01:44:15.920 --> 01:44:18.079
Like you have to sleep X number
of times. Oh no, no,

1720
01:44:18.279 --> 01:44:21.199
no, there's no rules about sleeping
at all. I mean it's but

1721
01:44:21.239 --> 01:44:24.439
it's like you can take a break. There are breaks built in, yeah,

1722
01:44:24.640 --> 01:44:26.920
to pee and stuff. But it's
a pain in the ass because like

1723
01:44:27.000 --> 01:44:30.159
for every consecutive hour you play,
if you play a sixty minute chunk,

1724
01:44:30.479 --> 01:44:33.239
you can take a ten minute break. And so you have to have two

1725
01:44:33.319 --> 01:44:36.920
witnesses at all times watching you do
this. Plus we had a Guinness a

1726
01:44:38.039 --> 01:44:40.920
juncticator I think it's what they call
him, fly out to monitor this.

1727
01:44:41.439 --> 01:44:45.319
So for fifty hours, yeah,
yeah, sure, you have to have

1728
01:44:45.720 --> 01:44:48.880
friends or whoever willing to sit in
in person and take notes on like when

1729
01:44:48.960 --> 01:44:53.119
you're sixty minutes is up and count
your break minutes and stuff. So it's

1730
01:44:53.199 --> 01:44:56.399
it's kind of easy to convince,
you know, three crazy friends like hey,

1731
01:44:56.479 --> 01:44:58.920
let's get these Guinness World records and
live stream and it will be great.

1732
01:44:59.159 --> 01:45:00.359
But then you have to convince people
to like sit down for like eight

1733
01:45:00.439 --> 01:45:03.119
hour chunks in the middle of the
night to like take notes, and then

1734
01:45:03.159 --> 01:45:06.279
they don't get the glory or anything
of against world record. That's the hardest

1735
01:45:06.279 --> 01:45:10.159
part of doing one of these marathons. Playing Mario games for fifty hours that

1736
01:45:10.199 --> 01:45:13.239
was fun as hell. So yeah, it's hard to put those together for

1737
01:45:13.319 --> 01:45:16.640
sure, but I would totally do
it again. Well, we look forward

1738
01:45:16.640 --> 01:45:21.359
to it. Just me by myself
and let us know exactly and just lay

1739
01:45:21.399 --> 01:45:24.479
it out on that couch with a
blanket over you. Just let us know

1740
01:45:24.560 --> 01:45:27.920
when you got a date line up
and we'll we'll stay home that week.

1741
01:45:28.039 --> 01:45:30.520
Yeah, you guys can come in, no jump in, and I'll be

1742
01:45:30.560 --> 01:45:32.680
the only one getting the record.
It sounds like you got it covered.

1743
01:45:33.000 --> 01:45:36.920
Yeah, yeah, that's in fact. You know, the sooner you can

1744
01:45:38.000 --> 01:45:42.239
get this going, the better I
consider doing it. Let's start next week.

1745
01:45:42.239 --> 01:45:46.399
I'm not committing to anything, man, some stuff got hacked over the

1746
01:45:46.479 --> 01:45:49.680
weekend. Yeah, do you hear
about this? Yeah, a little bit.

1747
01:45:50.119 --> 01:45:54.600
I don't know that anybody really knows
what the impetus was for this or

1748
01:45:55.880 --> 01:46:00.000
how it came about, but yeah, battle that got taken down. League

1749
01:46:00.039 --> 01:46:05.159
of Legends was taken down. PlayStation
network was down all day Sunday. It

1750
01:46:05.239 --> 01:46:09.840
seemed like Steam, like the story
and catagram I'm looking at doesn't mention it,

1751
01:46:09.920 --> 01:46:14.199
but I word around the word on
the Doda Street was the Steam had

1752
01:46:14.239 --> 01:46:19.239
also been affected by this a dock
Doda Street. Ye. And then I

1753
01:46:19.239 --> 01:46:23.960
don't know about Xbox Live. I
didn't think Xbox Live. I saw someone

1754
01:46:24.000 --> 01:46:27.840
claiming that there was an Xbox Live
out it that people were taking basically just

1755
01:46:27.920 --> 01:46:30.000
a massive DDoS. I frosted.
I think the thing with this stuff is

1756
01:46:30.039 --> 01:46:32.000
is like, once you build your
bott net, might as well use it.

1757
01:46:32.199 --> 01:46:34.560
I guess you know, at some
point you're like, well we got

1758
01:46:34.640 --> 01:46:36.800
that, somebody got bored. What
else are we gonna do? Yeah?

1759
01:46:36.800 --> 01:46:41.600
All these Russian computers? Yeah,
yeah, like if you're gonna have a

1760
01:46:41.720 --> 01:46:45.399
fun bought net weekend of dropping sites
like I feel like that's that's typically how

1761
01:46:45.520 --> 01:46:48.920
some of that well not all the
time, but that's that's how that stuff

1762
01:46:48.960 --> 01:46:51.920
often goes as people just go like
on Twitter, like, what do you

1763
01:46:51.960 --> 01:46:56.640
want us to drop next? Yeah, all right, we'll okay, we'll

1764
01:46:56.680 --> 01:47:00.399
do it if there's no charity streams
running that weekend, and yeah, turn

1765
01:47:00.439 --> 01:47:03.520
your attention to the usual suspects.
Sure, yeah, it's unfortunate, but

1766
01:47:03.600 --> 01:47:06.119
I mean my understanding is there's not
a whole lot that they can do about

1767
01:47:06.159 --> 01:47:11.600
it, right, you know,
the Internet is built on stuff that wasn't

1768
01:47:11.680 --> 01:47:15.560
necessarily designed to take that type of
overflow of traffic. And mind, sure,

1769
01:47:15.720 --> 01:47:18.399
you know it's it's it's not.
The point is, though, it's

1770
01:47:18.399 --> 01:47:20.520
not a security issue. It's not
like right, no, it's not like

1771
01:47:20.600 --> 01:47:26.359
the twenty eleven is getting spit out
there. It's not even twenty ten PSN

1772
01:47:26.399 --> 01:47:29.319
outage whatever year that was. I
don't know. It's not that though.

1773
01:47:29.319 --> 01:47:32.279
I don't think it was a vulnerability
thing, although you could make the argument

1774
01:47:32.359 --> 01:47:35.840
that you know, being down all
day, that's what's happened. Ye that

1775
01:47:36.039 --> 01:47:40.159
any any outage, like any anyone, if if a user, if if

1776
01:47:40.319 --> 01:47:43.359
if people out there are able to
cause an outage, that's a vulnerability.

1777
01:47:43.439 --> 01:47:47.159
Maybe not a security sense, but
you know that the network is not resistant

1778
01:47:47.239 --> 01:47:49.560
to that type of attack. But
at a certain point, I guess the

1779
01:47:49.720 --> 01:47:54.520
length of the outage or the kind
of sure immediacy of your response is what

1780
01:47:54.760 --> 01:47:57.920
is what matters at that point.
So having the entire network down the entire

1781
01:47:58.000 --> 01:48:01.079
day kind of unfortunate. Yeah,
although they did. They had scheduled maintenance

1782
01:48:01.119 --> 01:48:04.640
that they have now pushed back,
which I think was supposed to take place

1783
01:48:04.960 --> 01:48:09.479
this week. Yeah, Monday,
supposed to be Monday. I hope they

1784
01:48:09.520 --> 01:48:13.119
get passed that. I hope they
get passed the need to take their giant

1785
01:48:13.279 --> 01:48:15.800
video game network down. It's kind
of ridiculous. What do they do Steam

1786
01:48:15.800 --> 01:48:18.079
maintenance That's a weekly, isn't it. Uh No, I think it's more

1787
01:48:18.119 --> 01:48:20.199
sporadic than that. Yeah, okay, to be fair, they do it

1788
01:48:20.279 --> 01:48:25.479
too, but like I don't remember
Xbox Live ever having yeah, like scheduled,

1789
01:48:25.560 --> 01:48:28.760
like especially during the daytime when the
most people are gonna be using it.

1790
01:48:29.399 --> 01:48:30.399
You know, yep, do your
maintenance overnight if you have to.

1791
01:48:31.039 --> 01:48:34.760
But you know, yeah, what
I know. I'm no network engineer,

1792
01:48:34.880 --> 01:48:38.520
No you are not. But let's
hope this stuff doesn't happen again. Os

1793
01:48:38.560 --> 01:48:42.039
guys like to sleep too anytime soon? Yeah, I know, it doesn't

1794
01:48:42.039 --> 01:48:46.399
mean they should get to uh,
well, one thing on the PlayStation network

1795
01:48:46.479 --> 01:48:53.760
that's going down and never coming back, PlayStation Home. No, I'll give

1796
01:48:53.800 --> 01:49:00.079
I'll give you a minute. What
about the T shirts I bought? What

1797
01:49:00.159 --> 01:49:03.520
about my room with the couch?
I have a couch. I think it

1798
01:49:03.560 --> 01:49:06.119
will persist in North America for the
time being. Oh thank god? Ok?

1799
01:49:06.319 --> 01:49:09.680
Yeah, all right, Wait a
minute. What about my Japanese account

1800
01:49:09.680 --> 01:49:12.760
that's where I do all my best
homing. I've got bad news for you.

1801
01:49:13.520 --> 01:49:20.039
You've got found seven months. I'll
give you another minute. I never

1802
01:49:20.079 --> 01:49:25.880
thought this day would come. March
twenty fifteen. Yeah, Home is going

1803
01:49:25.920 --> 01:49:30.640
offline in Japan. Yeah, sure, so, I mean, you know,

1804
01:49:30.760 --> 01:49:33.920
make your peace. I remember at
one point being like convinced that like,

1805
01:49:33.960 --> 01:49:36.119
oh, well, of course they'll
port PlayStation Nome to PS four.

1806
01:49:36.159 --> 01:49:39.399
It makes money for them. Why
wouldn't they do it? Like, oh,

1807
01:49:39.479 --> 01:49:42.760
wait, has that ever been confirmed? It's not just something we heard

1808
01:49:42.840 --> 01:49:46.560
around. It's it's you know,
I'm not gonna sit here and say that

1809
01:49:46.600 --> 01:49:49.680
we've seen the books. Yeah,
like we didn't check the receipts on it.

1810
01:49:49.720 --> 01:49:53.000
But it's one of those kind of
quiet things of just like no,

1811
01:49:53.119 --> 01:49:56.800
it's yeah, it's I mean I
guess you couldn't. You could infer from

1812
01:49:56.840 --> 01:50:00.520
the fact that they left it running
for like what six years, but it

1813
01:50:00.600 --> 01:50:04.000
was doing Okay. Have any of
you ever met a single person that uses

1814
01:50:04.079 --> 01:50:09.880
that met someone in person up outside
of a one time novelty like, oh,

1815
01:50:09.880 --> 01:50:11.800
I looked at it. It was
weird. I've known people who worked

1816
01:50:11.840 --> 01:50:14.199
on it, Okay. No,
I mean people that like are fans of

1817
01:50:14.319 --> 01:50:17.199
Home and no. We you know, Patrick has done a series of stories

1818
01:50:17.279 --> 01:50:21.039
on Home over the years and reached
out and interviewed people and stuff like that.

1819
01:50:21.159 --> 01:50:24.800
But in terms of actual just in
the wild, No, I just

1820
01:50:24.880 --> 01:50:28.319
love PlayStation Home. Hell no,
no, absolutely not Second life people,

1821
01:50:28.479 --> 01:50:31.079
yeah, exactly, they theoretically exist. Second life stile thing. You've never

1822
01:50:31.159 --> 01:50:35.079
met a second either. I don't
know if Second life is a thing in

1823
01:50:35.079 --> 01:50:38.920
the way that it used to be
a thing, like where people were earning

1824
01:50:38.960 --> 01:50:45.239
a living making shoes. But it's
a good documentary about second life, Real

1825
01:50:47.319 --> 01:50:51.279
Life two point zero the name of
it. There are two documentaries. Is

1826
01:50:51.319 --> 01:50:56.279
one that's just about people meeting online, and this one that's specifically about second

1827
01:50:56.319 --> 01:50:58.239
life. I think Life two point
zero might be the Second Life one,

1828
01:50:58.640 --> 01:51:01.199
and the head of Linden Labs like
this crazy face. Every time it comes

1829
01:51:01.239 --> 01:51:03.399
on, You're like, oh,
of course this is the guy that's see

1830
01:51:03.520 --> 01:51:06.720
over the company making Second Life.
You're a fucking nut job. Look at

1831
01:51:06.760 --> 01:51:12.199
you, mann kind of job we're
talking about it just like it's just crazy

1832
01:51:12.279 --> 01:51:16.239
eyes. You're like, dude,
stop talking about this thing like it's like

1833
01:51:16.560 --> 01:51:23.880
changing everything, Like no, this
is no, it's changing everything for creepy

1834
01:51:23.960 --> 01:51:30.159
people and shut ins. Dan,
did every tell you I interviewed for Second

1835
01:51:30.199 --> 01:51:35.399
Life? For them? What would
you have been doing? I don't know,

1836
01:51:36.079 --> 01:51:40.159
right out of college or maybe in
college for internship. I can't remember,

1837
01:51:40.479 --> 01:51:44.520
but they conducted the interview in Second
Life. Oh my god, that's

1838
01:51:44.600 --> 01:51:48.840
not like on tape anywhere, right
like that. Some of these documentaries,

1839
01:51:49.159 --> 01:51:55.640
some of the Second Life And it's
the amazing thing about it is it runs

1840
01:51:55.760 --> 01:51:59.800
like shit, and you're like,
dude, you're making a documentary on this

1841
01:51:59.880 --> 01:52:01.960
thing. Get a better computer.
And then I remember when Vinnie took a

1842
01:52:02.000 --> 01:52:05.640
look at it and remember running like
garbage then, which maybe just realize like,

1843
01:52:05.680 --> 01:52:09.159
oh wait, it just runs like
shit? Is it just like crappy

1844
01:52:09.239 --> 01:52:15.600
sims? It's it's it's more like
multiplayer Maya it's a little more. It's

1845
01:52:15.640 --> 01:52:18.399
a three D animation program. I'm
going to make your own animations and your

1846
01:52:18.399 --> 01:52:23.920
own stuff, and you can sell
those things to other people for a currency,

1847
01:52:23.960 --> 01:52:26.960
and in game currency that can be
translated back out to dollars. I

1848
01:52:27.000 --> 01:52:30.840
mean, that's that's where the cliche
about like flying penises came from, because

1849
01:52:30.840 --> 01:52:33.359
people made literal flying penises and had
them like crash public events. Like at

1850
01:52:33.359 --> 01:52:36.479
one point Obama conducted an interview in
Second Life. I want to say,

1851
01:52:36.520 --> 01:52:40.520
wow, you kind of whatever he
was playing it, it was just like,

1852
01:52:40.560 --> 01:52:42.720
you know, people were asking him
questions, he was answering when someone

1853
01:52:42.840 --> 01:52:45.880
was you know, sitting on a
fake couch or you know whatever it was.

1854
01:52:45.039 --> 01:52:48.279
But I need Brad to elaborate on
this, the flying penis thing.

1855
01:52:48.520 --> 01:52:51.079
So I think it was a press
conference that they held, wasn't it.

1856
01:52:51.159 --> 01:52:54.600
It was there. I can't remember
the specifics, but it seemed like,

1857
01:52:54.680 --> 01:52:58.680
you know, so there was a
time where like people were convinced that Second

1858
01:52:58.760 --> 01:53:01.319
Life was going to matter in a
weird way, so brands would want to

1859
01:53:01.319 --> 01:53:05.439
be associated with it. So it's
like we're opening the first virtual Mercedes dealership

1860
01:53:05.520 --> 01:53:10.039
inside Second Life, and you can
come look at all the latest models and

1861
01:53:10.159 --> 01:53:15.039
hopefully that'll inspire people to go buy
real Mercedes is. And so the reaction

1862
01:53:15.119 --> 01:53:17.680
to a lot of stuff, like
as the attention would get there, is

1863
01:53:17.720 --> 01:53:20.600
that, you know, people would
make it rain dicks. As there was

1864
01:53:20.680 --> 01:53:24.640
news attention on Second Life. That's
really they would try to ruin it by

1865
01:53:24.720 --> 01:53:27.119
making it rain dicks. I knew
you'd like that. That's super funny.

1866
01:53:27.199 --> 01:53:29.720
Yeah, it's like the guy that's
like the Russian Prime minister or whatever is

1867
01:53:29.720 --> 01:53:30.600
doing the thing, and the guy
the remote controlled dick. Yeah, and

1868
01:53:30.680 --> 01:53:34.640
he made a fly up. That's
just that's the that's the purest humor possible,

1869
01:53:34.840 --> 01:53:38.159
a super serious thing. And o
there's a flying penis. Yeah,

1870
01:53:38.359 --> 01:53:42.560
like here you go dicks. Yeah, distilled humor. Yeah, Like you

1871
01:53:42.640 --> 01:53:45.000
know, Bruce Willis didn't interview in
Second Life. People were DJs, and

1872
01:53:45.079 --> 01:53:53.960
so it's it's a it's a it's
a fuck man. Uh. Watched an

1873
01:53:53.960 --> 01:53:59.199
episode of Law and Order SVU recently
where a kidnapping took place in their cheesy

1874
01:54:00.159 --> 01:54:02.880
facsimile of Second Life. So it
was there, which yes, it was

1875
01:54:02.920 --> 01:54:08.840
called. It was called another universe. Yo universe. It's a really good

1876
01:54:08.920 --> 01:54:13.359
shitty nay. Yeah, And then
they went to the They went to the

1877
01:54:13.399 --> 01:54:16.159
founder and CEO's house because they needed
favors, like some database searches run.

1878
01:54:16.279 --> 01:54:20.640
And he was this like spelt like
model, handsome British guy in a like

1879
01:54:20.760 --> 01:54:25.640
fancy suit of course, the giant
wall of monitors showing like every player in

1880
01:54:25.680 --> 01:54:29.039
the game, and he was like, let's do that. I'm gonna have

1881
01:54:29.079 --> 01:54:31.039
to turn it from night today and
we've never done that before, Like,

1882
01:54:31.119 --> 01:54:34.760
just do it, So we did
it. That sounds really shop. Look

1883
01:54:34.800 --> 01:54:40.920
that episode up. It's really dumb. I remember, really dumb. Dave

1884
01:54:41.119 --> 01:54:44.800
Toyster. Yeah, made money in
there in Second life, No, in

1885
01:54:44.880 --> 01:54:51.119
there, Oh there dot com was
a second life like uh he was selling

1886
01:54:51.199 --> 01:54:56.479
skins that looked like the general Lee
for Theault Dune Byby or something and made

1887
01:54:56.479 --> 01:55:00.359
a bunch of money. I forget
exactly what it was. Wow, what's

1888
01:55:00.359 --> 01:55:06.199
her name? Assassin's Creed Raymond,
Jade Raymond? Was it there back in

1889
01:55:06.239 --> 01:55:10.880
the day. That sounds vaguely familiar. It's because it's true. Yeah,

1890
01:55:11.079 --> 01:55:13.880
Yeah, the truth can often sound
familiar. And the Internet used to be

1891
01:55:13.960 --> 01:55:15.520
weird. It still is, yeah, just in different ways. Yeah,

1892
01:55:16.640 --> 01:55:19.600
kind of liked the old way it
used to be weird. That's a little

1893
01:55:19.640 --> 01:55:23.520
less malicious at times. Yes,
but that's what I like about. It's

1894
01:55:23.560 --> 01:55:26.319
something by that hard edged malice.
Do you go like, all right,

1895
01:55:26.880 --> 01:55:29.800
it's real. I don't know if
I can. I don't know if I

1896
01:55:29.880 --> 01:55:33.319
can follow you on this one too? Real? Oh man? Remember that

1897
01:55:33.560 --> 01:55:39.279
game that was unveiled at the Sony
Conference at games Calm, The Vanishing of

1898
01:55:39.359 --> 01:55:43.239
Ethan Carter, Yes, remember that
one. It's the Astronaut's one, right,

1899
01:55:43.520 --> 01:55:45.239
Yes, the developers. Yes,
the developer is called the Astronauts.

1900
01:55:45.279 --> 01:55:50.880
Yeah, they're former people can Fly, so former Bulletstorm developers. It's coming

1901
01:55:50.920 --> 01:55:55.479
out on the twenty fifth September.
Yeah. And I bring that up mostly

1902
01:55:55.560 --> 01:56:00.199
because I feel like it's one step
closer to realizing this glorious future of games

1903
01:56:00.199 --> 01:56:02.920
getting announced and then just released.
That wasn't just announced the games, was

1904
01:56:02.960 --> 01:56:08.279
it not? No? That had
been announced long before every year and fucking

1905
01:56:08.319 --> 01:56:11.239
whip a hammer and like an energy
whip into the ground and make people pop

1906
01:56:11.359 --> 01:56:13.359
up in the air and shoot him
and yep, that's the one, and

1907
01:56:13.600 --> 01:56:16.279
kick him on his spikes yep,
and then call him the dick lips.

1908
01:56:16.479 --> 01:56:20.920
What was the what was the dick
tits? No, I think they said

1909
01:56:20.960 --> 01:56:24.399
dictits in that game. Yeah,
there was a specific it was one of

1910
01:56:24.439 --> 01:56:27.880
the trailers or something said it was
that the one though. I feel like

1911
01:56:27.920 --> 01:56:30.359
there was a certain slur in that
game that really made the Browns. I

1912
01:56:30.359 --> 01:56:33.840
don't think that was that was that
was. That was definitely one of them.

1913
01:56:34.840 --> 01:56:38.520
I feel like I remember them trying
to prop it up as being edgier

1914
01:56:38.680 --> 01:56:42.359
than it actually was. Oh yeah, that's yeah, that's but there's that

1915
01:56:42.520 --> 01:56:45.479
is exactly what they did. There's
nothing edgy about that. That game was

1916
01:56:45.600 --> 01:56:47.720
trying too hard for that. Like
I like good like a good dick joke

1917
01:56:47.840 --> 01:56:51.000
or usage that word or whatever,
but like that game was just trying so

1918
01:56:51.079 --> 01:56:54.680
hard to be like that where you
know, yeah, and for mature Like

1919
01:56:54.680 --> 01:56:56.359
I like the game play a lot. It was really good. It was

1920
01:56:56.399 --> 01:56:59.359
a really cool game. Yeah,
the humor just seemed a little lazy.

1921
01:56:59.680 --> 01:57:01.960
Yep. Yeah, yeah, Okay, Well I may be wrong on this,

1922
01:57:03.199 --> 01:57:06.920
h I thought that was the first
of that game. Adrian, he

1923
01:57:08.000 --> 01:57:10.560
was the lead on bullet Storm.
He's been tweeting about it for like I

1924
01:57:10.600 --> 01:57:13.479
think at least over He was also
there for Gears Judgment, right yeah,

1925
01:57:14.319 --> 01:57:15.399
right before that came out. Or
something like that. That was really interesting

1926
01:57:15.399 --> 01:57:18.199
because I was on the cover story
trip for that because we announced it with

1927
01:57:18.520 --> 01:57:23.720
when I was a Game Informer,
and it was right before Adrian and I

1928
01:57:23.800 --> 01:57:27.920
want to say Rod left and they
both just seemed kind of checked out during

1929
01:57:28.000 --> 01:57:30.079
that, and like it was right
after that they both left. We're like,

1930
01:57:30.159 --> 01:57:31.279
well, that was weird because like
they were the main people that we

1931
01:57:31.359 --> 01:57:34.800
were talking to about Gears Judgment,
like we don't know, you can play

1932
01:57:34.800 --> 01:57:39.000
it if you want. Yeah,
we were asking Adrian questions and Adrian was

1933
01:57:39.039 --> 01:57:41.800
supposed to be the lead of the
multiplayer component of Judgment, and we'd be

1934
01:57:41.840 --> 01:57:43.960
like, oh, so when you're
this big snake guy, what can he

1935
01:57:44.039 --> 01:57:46.760
do? And he's like, ask
that guy. He probably knows. So

1936
01:57:46.840 --> 01:57:48.840
when they left, it's like,
okay, that makes sense. Yeah,

1937
01:57:49.079 --> 01:57:53.960
but yeah, they did both work
on that. Well, anyway, it'll

1938
01:57:53.960 --> 01:57:56.119
be cure or it'll be interesting to
see. You know, these are the

1939
01:57:56.119 --> 01:58:00.119
people who made Bold Storm and a
Gears game and pain Killer. You know,

1940
01:58:00.199 --> 01:58:03.159
they're making more of a kind of
a quiet, reserved horror experience of

1941
01:58:03.199 --> 01:58:09.239
some kinds. So that'll be out
soon and that's kind of it. Yeah,

1942
01:58:09.399 --> 01:58:14.439
for video game industry News, this
week unless anybody else has anything they

1943
01:58:14.520 --> 01:58:18.359
want to bring to the four.
I got an Xbox. Okay, we

1944
01:58:18.479 --> 01:58:23.039
got an Xbox. They're breaking news
here, drew scandalon owns an Xbox one.

1945
01:58:24.239 --> 01:58:26.560
I wanted. I wanted to ask
you more about that same day delivery,

1946
01:58:26.600 --> 01:58:28.680
but I guess there's nothing else to
say, right, Like you ordered

1947
01:58:28.720 --> 01:58:31.359
it to showed up. Yeah,
I mean I have Amazon Prime. Was

1948
01:58:31.399 --> 01:58:33.760
it? It was just listed as
an option along with like you know,

1949
01:58:33.880 --> 01:58:36.800
two days. I think it's one
of the things where in San Francisco they

1950
01:58:38.039 --> 01:58:42.159
are habit on certain items, okay, sort of like probably on fresh in

1951
01:58:42.319 --> 01:58:45.319
some studies where you get groceries and
stuff like that delivered same day. There's

1952
01:58:45.319 --> 01:58:47.399
probably some warehouse. Yeah, they
well know, they very specifically they bought

1953
01:58:47.680 --> 01:58:53.119
a huge plot and built a warehouse
in South San Francisco. Well there you

1954
01:58:53.199 --> 01:58:57.319
go a year or two ago.
Although the box said Nevada. Uh,

1955
01:58:58.520 --> 01:59:01.239
who knows. Maybe they ship there
in a box and it sits in that.

1956
01:59:02.640 --> 01:59:05.439
Yeah, that's still cool. I
don't know if that's something they'll be

1957
01:59:05.479 --> 01:59:11.039
able to extend to their in the
entire country, but no, probably not,

1958
01:59:12.000 --> 01:59:15.359
probably not. We were like Korea
and real tiny. Yeah, I

1959
01:59:15.000 --> 01:59:17.600
live in major city. I've thought
about the rhetoric question. I was just

1960
01:59:17.680 --> 01:59:21.760
asking the answer. It would have
been quite clear. Sorry, butte Montana.

1961
01:59:23.880 --> 01:59:27.439
All right, let's move on to
the emails. All right, the

1962
01:59:27.520 --> 01:59:33.159
emails, emails, emails. There
you go, great, who's still playing

1963
01:59:33.279 --> 01:59:38.199
Ingress? I have it on my
phone. I have it on my phone.

1964
01:59:38.640 --> 01:59:41.119
It does not run properly on my
phone. No, I was thinking

1965
01:59:41.119 --> 01:59:44.039
about downloading it, and I can't
get it on that Amazon phone because it's

1966
01:59:44.039 --> 01:59:46.079
an Amazon phone and it doesn't have
Google stuff. I guess you just have

1967
01:59:46.119 --> 01:59:48.840
to go get another Android phone.
Yeah, that's what I'm gonna do.

1968
01:59:49.000 --> 01:59:51.359
Yeah, okay, you know,
I'll just you could just take off now

1969
01:59:51.399 --> 01:59:54.600
if you really want to get that
done. Yeah, cool, I take

1970
01:59:54.680 --> 02:00:02.960
of that. BombCast a giant bomb
dot COM's the email BombCast at GiantBomb dot

1971
02:00:03.000 --> 02:00:06.359
com. Maybe if I say it, I will, I will, I

1972
02:00:06.439 --> 02:00:13.840
will imprint the memory developed, the
mouth muscle memory of saying that phrase enough

1973
02:00:13.920 --> 02:00:17.399
times, it'll just start coming out. Yeah, BombCast at GiantBomb dot com.

1974
02:00:17.600 --> 02:00:20.640
That's how it works. Is the
email address or you can send emails

1975
02:00:20.800 --> 02:00:25.800
like this one subject line. A
guy near my town died because he was

1976
02:00:25.880 --> 02:00:30.640
playing Ingress. What well, actually
he died because he was stupid. But

1977
02:00:30.720 --> 02:00:32.319
what happened is he was crazy addicted
to the game to the point that he

1978
02:00:32.399 --> 02:00:35.640
ran out of his house to capture
a nearby portal before the other the other

1979
02:00:35.720 --> 02:00:39.880
faction could. On his way to
the portal, he ran blindly into the

1980
02:00:39.880 --> 02:00:42.960
street and got hit by a bus. His mother wanted to sue Google,

1981
02:00:43.039 --> 02:00:45.840
claiming her son died because the game
was too addictive. It's too real.

1982
02:00:46.880 --> 02:00:49.399
This happened over a year ago and
I haven't heard anything since. So I

1983
02:00:49.439 --> 02:00:51.840
guess you didn't win yet or even
sue in the first place. Also,

1984
02:00:51.960 --> 02:00:58.039
this happened in Brazil, just so
you know. So, yeah, I

1985
02:00:58.079 --> 02:01:00.279
guess, and Ingress is a yeah, we shouldn't do that. It's risk

1986
02:01:00.399 --> 02:01:04.359
public safety. I just I just
deployed like five resonators. I'm downloading that.

1987
02:01:04.479 --> 02:01:08.560
I'm right now. Yeah, are
you taking over territory as we speak?

1988
02:01:08.840 --> 02:01:12.039
It was on a blue spot.
Yeah yeah. So if I start

1989
02:01:12.079 --> 02:01:14.880
playing this, are we gonna have
to like, you know, takes places

1990
02:01:14.960 --> 02:01:16.359
in the office or is this like
each street corner as a portal? And

1991
02:01:16.640 --> 02:01:18.520
this is kind of what you're like, Holy crap, what am I looking

1992
02:01:18.520 --> 02:01:23.039
at I don't know. It looks
like streets. I don't that's the inside

1993
02:01:23.039 --> 02:01:26.359
of the matrix. Yeah, the
hell is that? I don't know.

1994
02:01:27.199 --> 02:01:30.520
I've heard some complaints that that game
is hard to get in get into.

1995
02:01:30.600 --> 02:01:32.279
At this point, I have no
idea what's happened, well, not even

1996
02:01:32.680 --> 02:01:38.000
mechanically, so much is like the
strongholds are already so strong that it's kind

1997
02:01:38.000 --> 02:01:40.079
of hard to assail them. You
know what I mean? Is that the

1998
02:01:40.119 --> 02:01:42.720
case? I don't know. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense to me.

1999
02:01:42.760 --> 02:01:45.880
The whole thing is just a fucking
grid of bullshit and just tap on

2000
02:01:45.960 --> 02:01:48.439
stuff and deploy resonators and then hack
portals and then none of it means shit.

2001
02:01:50.119 --> 02:01:53.840
Uh. I've got another email here, which I probably won't actually read,

2002
02:01:53.920 --> 02:01:58.600
from Zach and McHenry, Illinois,
about a friend of his who was

2003
02:01:58.680 --> 02:02:01.720
walking through a neighbor's yard trying to
get to a specific portal or not maybe

2004
02:02:01.760 --> 02:02:03.960
not even a neighbor, maybe he
was in a random neighborhood, but he

2005
02:02:04.039 --> 02:02:08.199
dropped his wallet in their backyard and
they found it called the cops on him

2006
02:02:08.199 --> 02:02:11.319
because they thought he was like peeping
tom. So he got a visit from

2007
02:02:11.319 --> 02:02:15.720
the cops. So yeah, man
Ingriss. Probably it's bringing people together.

2008
02:02:15.880 --> 02:02:19.600
Probably pretty stupid. I can guarantee
you as someone who has attempted to play

2009
02:02:19.640 --> 02:02:24.600
it. Yeah, it's stupid.
Should I just not download it? No?

2010
02:02:24.800 --> 02:02:26.560
I mean do what you want to
do, live your own life.

2011
02:02:26.640 --> 02:02:31.199
But just no, it's stupid.
Ingress or swing copters Ingress, Yeah,

2012
02:02:31.279 --> 02:02:36.800
swing copters is less to play.
Okay, that's fair. Luca asked from

2013
02:02:36.800 --> 02:02:41.399
shared in Indiana did they have a
shared in there? The Sheridan shared the

2014
02:02:41.479 --> 02:02:45.159
share aton in Sheridan, Oh,
I think not forget it, although I'm

2015
02:02:45.159 --> 02:02:48.880
a little freaked out here because he
signed as email Lucas. But in the

2016
02:02:48.920 --> 02:02:55.479
from Field, it says Guillermo,
I'm not sure what to believe anyway,

2017
02:02:55.640 --> 02:03:00.279
He asserts the Big Boss canonically invented
Derito's Okay go on. Over the course

2018
02:03:00.319 --> 02:03:03.680
of Peace Walker, Big Boss recruits
engineers to make different gadgets for his use

2019
02:03:03.760 --> 02:03:06.720
on the field. Amongst the things, you can make our axe body,

2020
02:03:06.800 --> 02:03:13.279
spray threritos, and of course mountain
dew. At least in the Japanese version,

2021
02:03:13.279 --> 02:03:15.520
they had generic names. Over here. I know the series is goofy,

2022
02:03:15.600 --> 02:03:17.479
but this is one of my favorite
dumb things. About it. Do

2023
02:03:17.560 --> 02:03:21.119
you have a favorite stupid product placement
in a video game. There's a lot

2024
02:03:21.239 --> 02:03:27.159
in Metal Gear as far as like, yeah, he's got calorie maids.

2025
02:03:27.359 --> 02:03:30.119
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that
sounds great. I always love like there's

2026
02:03:30.119 --> 02:03:32.880
old Tony Hawk games to where like
you would pause and it would just show

2027
02:03:32.960 --> 02:03:36.560
like some stupid phone. That's like
it just makes it your face was just

2028
02:03:36.640 --> 02:03:40.039
like it's a T Mobile side kick. Yeah, I had a T Mobile

2029
02:03:40.039 --> 02:03:43.399
sidekick, and like I hated that
it was in that game. And it's

2030
02:03:43.399 --> 02:03:45.720
just if you ever go back,
kind of a cool phone, you know,

2031
02:03:45.840 --> 02:03:50.319
for that era, But that doesn't
mean I want to look at and

2032
02:03:50.359 --> 02:03:54.439
it's just gonna instantly date your game
like anyone plays it at any point in

2033
02:03:54.439 --> 02:03:57.640
the future to oh god, that's
stupid phone. Yeah, that's pretty dumb.

2034
02:03:57.960 --> 02:04:00.000
He had a keyboard on it.
Yeah. Cell phone is a problem,

2035
02:04:00.000 --> 02:04:04.199
like the most the most ubiquitous thing. Remember when we launched this site,

2036
02:04:04.239 --> 02:04:08.520
none of us had iPhones. Yeah, so we didn't remember. Remember

2037
02:04:09.560 --> 02:04:11.960
all four of us went and got
an iPhone day. Yeah, the day

2038
02:04:12.000 --> 02:04:14.560
the iPhone three G came out,
we all came into the office with our

2039
02:04:14.600 --> 02:04:18.279
new mobile sidekick. Right up until
that day, I had multiple sidekicks.

2040
02:04:18.319 --> 02:04:23.399
I broke my sidekick three and went
out and got another sidekick three, And

2041
02:04:23.479 --> 02:04:25.840
then like two months later the iPhone
came out. I was like, well,

2042
02:04:25.960 --> 02:04:30.159
fuck it. That was right before
E three that year, wasn't it.

2043
02:04:30.399 --> 02:04:31.840
Yeah. I feel like we went
to E three like that weekend or

2044
02:04:31.840 --> 02:04:35.680
the next weekend. It was just
dead battery city is everyone out and bought

2045
02:04:35.720 --> 02:04:39.680
iPhones. But and then took him
to E three and realized this doesn't work

2046
02:04:39.760 --> 02:04:42.920
for ship. Yeah. But I
also remember driving around in that minivan we'd

2047
02:04:42.920 --> 02:04:46.359
rented with the maps app losing our
fucking minds. That was pretty good that

2048
02:04:46.399 --> 02:04:49.039
we could navigate with the thing,
And oh man, that was so awesome.

2049
02:04:49.479 --> 02:04:54.960
Even iPhones used to be better,
didn't didn't Crazy Taxily have KF season

2050
02:04:55.039 --> 02:04:59.119
it? Yeah? Yeah? Had
pizza huts and the whole Kent Taco Hut

2051
02:04:59.319 --> 02:05:00.840
trilogy. Do they or the train? There was no taco bell and they

2052
02:05:00.840 --> 02:05:03.159
were not merged. I'm sorry,
what did you just say, the can

2053
02:05:03.199 --> 02:05:10.039
Taco Hut trinity? It sounds like
a dime store novel? Did you make

2054
02:05:10.119 --> 02:05:13.520
that up? No people know about
cantaco huts, oh man, although I

2055
02:05:13.520 --> 02:05:15.640
haven't seen him here I've only seen
the Pizza Hut KFCs. I haven't seen

2056
02:05:15.640 --> 02:05:17.880
it. Wait, no, I've
got a Taco Bell KFC near in my

2057
02:05:17.920 --> 02:05:19.960
place. Yeah, there's one of
those near me. Doesn't have the pizza

2058
02:05:20.000 --> 02:05:25.520
hut, not the KA it's a
hut Taco Bell in near the college near

2059
02:05:25.600 --> 02:05:27.520
me. They just need to throw
all three of them in there. I

2060
02:05:27.560 --> 02:05:30.119
don't know why they're not doing.
Have you ever seen such an establishment?

2061
02:05:30.279 --> 02:05:32.720
Yeah, in Kansas, they do
exist, the trip Yeah, can taco

2062
02:05:32.800 --> 02:05:35.000
huts. Okay, the Kansas mean, I know they're all owned by the

2063
02:05:35.000 --> 02:05:38.520
same company, which is what I
thought you were. Young Brands. One

2064
02:05:38.560 --> 02:05:41.159
of my Twitter followers nor, Yeah, it is Young Brands, you're on

2065
02:05:41.359 --> 02:05:44.159
Yeah, yeah, no, Pepsi
young brands. Yeah yeah, Wait all

2066
02:05:44.159 --> 02:05:46.039
Pepsi products in all those places.
What does Pepsi own Young Brands or the

2067
02:05:46.079 --> 02:05:48.840
other way around, the other way
around? Okay, I think Young Brands

2068
02:05:48.880 --> 02:05:51.880
owned. Pepsi is the parent corporate. It has to be the parent corporation

2069
02:05:51.960 --> 02:05:55.359
in this arrangement. I believe you
might be. You might be right there,

2070
02:05:55.479 --> 02:05:58.439
But yeah, Young Brands is the
Cantaco Hut. That's why they all

2071
02:05:58.479 --> 02:06:01.159
have Pepsi's and everything. This is
monstrous. It's great, This discussion is

2072
02:06:01.880 --> 02:06:05.159
understanding. Thing is that the round
Table pizza in my neighborhood shut down while

2073
02:06:05.159 --> 02:06:08.119
I was out of town. Is
that bad? Which I want to say,

2074
02:06:08.119 --> 02:06:10.600
I'm sorry. You got Domino's.
Yeah, the Dominoes open. Yeah,

2075
02:06:11.079 --> 02:06:14.079
the Domino's open. There's a little
Caesars there. Round Table charged too

2076
02:06:14.159 --> 02:06:16.199
much for pizza. Round table is
not good either, right. Oh,

2077
02:06:16.319 --> 02:06:18.439
yeah, that was actually quite good. Really. Yeah, it was fun

2078
02:06:18.520 --> 02:06:21.439
people riding. They don't have them
on the East Coast, so I would

2079
02:06:21.439 --> 02:06:26.520
say it is a slightly higher tier
of pizza than a Pizza Hut or a

2080
02:06:27.079 --> 02:06:30.960
Dominoes. They have five dollars five
dollars hunting readies. Hell no, that's

2081
02:06:30.000 --> 02:06:34.079
they're they're little Caesars every time.
Yeah, I guess have Papa Murphy's out

2082
02:06:34.079 --> 02:06:36.279
here. Yeah, I got one
near me. Okay, No Papa John's,

2083
02:06:36.279 --> 02:06:40.319
though, Papa John's the best.
God damnit. I love Papa John's

2084
02:06:41.600 --> 02:06:43.840
and pizza. I've only had it
like once, and I thought it was

2085
02:06:43.920 --> 02:06:45.720
kind of lackluster. I don't think
the garlic dippy thing, the garlic dippy

2086
02:06:45.720 --> 02:06:48.880
things, the little peper thing you
every single pizza hut, every single pizza

2087
02:06:48.920 --> 02:06:53.800
place in the history of pizza places
has a little garlic. By default,

2088
02:06:54.239 --> 02:06:57.760
Papa John's cares about its customers.
Just throw every single pizza you get that.

2089
02:06:58.039 --> 02:07:00.319
Although I think pizza huts still king
On doesn't care about shit. Papa

2090
02:07:00.399 --> 02:07:04.279
John cares about getting paid. No, no, Papa No, I don't

2091
02:07:04.560 --> 02:07:09.279
think it doesn't care about his employees. Look at that. Like Papa John's

2092
02:07:09.359 --> 02:07:11.560
kind of a day. Yeah,
Papa John. It's sort of a ship

2093
02:07:11.640 --> 02:07:14.319
back, is he. I don't
know, he's always see like an actual

2094
02:07:14.399 --> 02:07:16.479
Like yeah, that's actual, Like
yes, apparently like a not a good

2095
02:07:16.560 --> 02:07:20.840
person. Oh okay, sorry,
sorry to shatter your illusions. I like

2096
02:07:21.000 --> 02:07:24.399
his pizza. I'll say that.
How do you feel I get pizza more

2097
02:07:24.439 --> 02:07:27.640
often than not. How do you
feel about local pizza? I'll try any

2098
02:07:27.720 --> 02:07:30.760
pizza. I like local pizza.
I like, yeah, yeah, there's

2099
02:07:30.800 --> 02:07:34.159
some. There's some passable pizza in
San Francisco. When we were in LA

2100
02:07:34.399 --> 02:07:41.159
for SummerSlam, we ordered two pizzas
and they were garbage. They were not

2101
02:07:41.359 --> 02:07:44.079
not good. I don't know.
If LA is not for California is not

2102
02:07:44.119 --> 02:07:47.640
known. There's one specific place in
LA that does a Chicago pizza pretty well.

2103
02:07:47.680 --> 02:07:51.079
Apparently is it garage pizza because we
heard garage pizza because it was the

2104
02:07:51.119 --> 02:07:55.000
only thing that was open late and
it sucked at im Sure that wasn't garbage

2105
02:07:55.039 --> 02:07:59.439
pizza and we actually called it that. Yeah. No, it looks like

2106
02:07:59.520 --> 02:08:03.000
Timter puked all over his bed because
he he folded up like a New York

2107
02:08:03.119 --> 02:08:05.840
thing and just this cascade of grease
came down and all over the side of

2108
02:08:05.840 --> 02:08:09.560
the bed. It's just this like
brown, oily yellow stuff. And yeah,

2109
02:08:09.600 --> 02:08:11.800
I'm sure room service though he just
piked all overs. God damn,

2110
02:08:11.800 --> 02:08:16.800
I'm hungry. Well, let's get
through these emails in Okay so you can

2111
02:08:16.840 --> 02:08:22.279
go get some puke of your own. Uh, here's a question. You

2112
02:08:22.319 --> 02:08:24.279
guys fucked me up, and I'm
gonna get pizza when I get home.

2113
02:08:24.319 --> 02:08:26.960
Now I think I am too.
What is it? What is different than

2114
02:08:26.199 --> 02:08:30.319
than How is that any different from
your plans? Prior to that discussion,

2115
02:08:30.880 --> 02:08:35.640
I had not made any food plans
raw and pizza. Would you say pizza

2116
02:08:35.800 --> 02:08:39.239
was at least on the list of
potentials? You know, a drive through

2117
02:08:39.359 --> 02:08:45.119
so much faster because you're literally taking
the food home and immediately, because pizza

2118
02:08:45.199 --> 02:08:48.479
takes too long to make. At
the Taco Bell Pizza Hut near my place,

2119
02:08:48.520 --> 02:08:52.479
you can drive through and you can
order like Pizza Hut personal pan pizzas

2120
02:08:52.479 --> 02:08:54.079
at that point usually because that's the
only stuff I have read of them,

2121
02:08:54.159 --> 02:08:58.079
and they just have it ready,
and like Little Caesars does the when they

2122
02:08:58.079 --> 02:09:01.000
would say their pizzas are ready,
they mean it because the pizzas are,

2123
02:09:01.119 --> 02:09:03.479
you know, generally of a middling
quality anyway, so it's like it's not

2124
02:09:03.560 --> 02:09:07.560
that far to fault and have been
ready probably for a couple of hours,

2125
02:09:07.760 --> 02:09:09.520
you know. No, the turnover
the pizza is so cheap, man,

2126
02:09:09.640 --> 02:09:13.560
people are fucking running okay, okay, and they only do that between set

2127
02:09:13.600 --> 02:09:16.800
hours. Oh okay, so when
they guarantee like no this this pizza will

2128
02:09:16.800 --> 02:09:20.720
be fucking red. So they're basically
like selling them as fast as they can

2129
02:09:20.760 --> 02:09:22.720
make them, kind of more or
less. Seems like it. I don't

2130
02:09:22.720 --> 02:09:28.880
know, I don't have no idea. What was I saying, I don't

2131
02:09:28.880 --> 02:09:31.960
know, I don't know. Pizza, pizza, pizza, Yeah, oh

2132
02:09:33.039 --> 02:09:35.760
so yeah, that that's the thing
like that. I don't I don't like

2133
02:09:35.920 --> 02:09:39.640
the combination when they when they put
pizza with other restaurants, the pizzas,

2134
02:09:39.720 --> 02:09:43.520
the thing that suffers. Taco Bell
is fine. Yeah, Taco Bell lap

2135
02:09:43.560 --> 02:09:46.760
that bullshit together in fucking twenty seconds. I don't care where you are shot.

2136
02:09:46.760 --> 02:09:50.039
I'm gonna get a personal fan pizza
and it a bunch of Taco Bell

2137
02:09:50.079 --> 02:09:54.279
bullshit. That's gonna be great,
Okay. And they need to bring back

2138
02:09:54.359 --> 02:09:58.640
that thing that had the spicy Fridos
in it. Oh, that Taco Bell

2139
02:09:58.800 --> 02:10:01.880
that was well. You can ask
for the red sticks, the little crunch

2140
02:10:01.479 --> 02:10:05.079
they're good. They're good, they're
good. Que so rito is not that

2141
02:10:05.159 --> 02:10:09.239
good. Que Rito is disappointing,
not that much, as are the doritos

2142
02:10:09.279 --> 02:10:11.880
tacos, the rito tacos and concepts
thing. Ritos tacos are disgusting. They're

2143
02:10:11.880 --> 02:10:15.960
too fucking salty. They're gross.
They're gross. Hugely popular though, I

2144
02:10:16.039 --> 02:10:20.359
never get tacos crazy, Yeah,
exactly food. Nobody, nobody actually likes

2145
02:10:20.399 --> 02:10:22.640
those things. They just sell them
by the millions. You can't you can

2146
02:10:22.680 --> 02:10:28.399
barely taste it. People love them, but I think people suck. Thanks

2147
02:10:28.840 --> 02:10:33.680
do they ever roll out the cool
ranch ship. It's not great, and

2148
02:10:33.720 --> 02:10:37.119
then they've gone beyond that and they
do like a spicy or something. Yeah,

2149
02:10:37.560 --> 02:10:39.760
No, they're not great. Just
the case is the best thing they

2150
02:10:39.800 --> 02:10:41.279
have there. A bunch of fire
sauce cheese roll ups. Those are great.

2151
02:10:43.000 --> 02:10:46.760
Cheese roll ups are stupid because yes
they are great, but because they

2152
02:10:46.800 --> 02:10:48.359
just fucking put cheese in a tortilla. Roll them here you go. It's

2153
02:10:48.520 --> 02:10:52.800
great. It's like it's like a
discount. You think it's make that at

2154
02:10:52.840 --> 02:10:54.399
your house. Three of them for
a dollar. I've been getting those almost

2155
02:10:54.439 --> 02:10:58.079
weekly since I was like six.
It makes like twenty of those for a

2156
02:10:58.119 --> 02:11:00.479
dollars. They're not good, nothing
that you gotta STU made those since you

2157
02:11:00.520 --> 02:11:01.319
were sick. Yeah, it did. My mom was a manager of a

2158
02:11:01.319 --> 02:11:03.760
taco bell when I was a little
kid. She was just making that on

2159
02:11:03.840 --> 02:11:07.840
her own boot. It's wait,
I feel like this explains so much.

2160
02:11:07.279 --> 02:11:11.319
That was only like for like a
four month job or something. She was

2161
02:11:11.359 --> 02:11:13.880
a waitress of Macaroni Grille and Chilis
for basically my whole childhood. But she

2162
02:11:13.960 --> 02:11:18.119
had a brief sense like the skillet
caso for free, which she's come home

2163
02:11:18.159 --> 02:11:20.720
with like a vat No, because
I was a skill from Chilis. No,

2164
02:11:20.800 --> 02:11:22.640
I was always afraid of trying any
new food, so I just ate

2165
02:11:22.640 --> 02:11:26.199
the chicken tenders and fries like constant
chili. Is it really good? So

2166
02:11:26.399 --> 02:11:31.920
yeah, why were you afraid?
Guys? I was just stupid. I

2167
02:11:31.000 --> 02:11:39.000
can't entertain this thought process. That's
yeah. Sometimes sometimes you don't want to

2168
02:11:39.039 --> 02:11:43.600
take risks with food sometimes if you
are genuinely hungry, Yeah, you go

2169
02:11:43.760 --> 02:11:46.039
with what you know, because if
you get too far outside your comfort zone

2170
02:11:46.039 --> 02:11:50.760
and you're just disappointed, you've ruined
that in time exactly, which for years

2171
02:11:50.760 --> 02:11:52.359
I knew if I was going to
Taco Bell that if I got three cheese

2172
02:11:52.439 --> 02:11:54.319
roll ups. And this is before
I'd even tried hot sauce. That was

2173
02:11:54.399 --> 02:11:58.319
not until I was like twenty seven. So just like three cheese roll ups

2174
02:11:58.439 --> 02:12:01.159
and a thing a standard nachos.
I've never get the crazy ones or sour

2175
02:12:01.239 --> 02:12:05.680
cream stull of cheese with a ship
ton of extra cheeses and then a bunch

2176
02:12:05.680 --> 02:12:07.279
of cheese roll ups. But the
next meal is only likes cheese and then

2177
02:12:07.319 --> 02:12:11.239
more cheese. It's the next meal
is only like sixty eight hours away,

2178
02:12:11.319 --> 02:12:16.039
though I don't know. To each
his own nile in Ireland, Ireland,

2179
02:12:16.680 --> 02:12:20.720
I rarely eat three meals in a
day. Yeah, okay, go on,

2180
02:12:20.800 --> 02:12:22.800
should eat more. I mean,
you're not wrong I should eat more

2181
02:12:22.840 --> 02:12:26.439
and less at the same time.
Yes, like I should eat less per

2182
02:12:26.520 --> 02:12:31.000
meal and then more frequently. It's
effective. H Nile wants to know about

2183
02:12:31.079 --> 02:12:35.439
the Dreamcast, specifically the death of
the Dreamcast. All right, you get

2184
02:12:35.479 --> 02:12:43.000
three cheese rollers. I was talking
about the launch of the Dreamcast, not

2185
02:12:43.239 --> 02:12:46.800
forty eight hours ago, Okay,
specifically my trip to New York and all

2186
02:12:46.800 --> 02:12:50.159
that suff Okay, well let's bring
it all home then with the end of

2187
02:12:50.239 --> 02:12:52.359
that whole thing. Yes, hey, Bondcast crew, I have the question.

2188
02:12:52.479 --> 02:12:56.479
I have a question about the death
of the Dreamcast and Saga's exit from

2189
02:12:56.479 --> 02:13:00.399
the console space. What was this
series of events that led to that decision

2190
02:13:00.439 --> 02:13:03.119
from Sega And was the exit al
already rumored before it happened, or was

2191
02:13:03.119 --> 02:13:05.960
it an actual surprise that came out
of nowhere. I know that the Saturn

2192
02:13:07.039 --> 02:13:09.439
was a bit of a boondoggle for
them, and the PS two stomped them

2193
02:13:09.479 --> 02:13:11.880
pretty hard, but other than that, I don't really know what the atmosphere

2194
02:13:13.079 --> 02:13:16.800
was, what the atmosphere was like
around Sega at the time, and how

2195
02:13:16.800 --> 02:13:20.399
shocking this news actually was. I
wasn't following game news much back then,

2196
02:13:20.520 --> 02:13:22.800
and now any coverage of the matter. I can find only deals with the

2197
02:13:22.840 --> 02:13:26.840
announcement and the aftermath, not the
lead up. Any nuggets of info would

2198
02:13:26.840 --> 02:13:31.159
be appreciated. I remember Sega being
dicey in the lead up to that announcement,

2199
02:13:31.359 --> 02:13:35.880
like that there was just they didn't
they all of a sudden didn't seem

2200
02:13:35.920 --> 02:13:37.560
like they had their ship together the
way they normally did. Are you saying

2201
02:13:37.600 --> 02:13:41.560
that as somebody on the inside who
was working with them as a company.

2202
02:13:41.680 --> 02:13:43.319
Yeah, it was, you know, trying to contact them about upcoming games

2203
02:13:43.359 --> 02:13:48.039
and stuff like that. Like there
was just at some point the flow of

2204
02:13:48.159 --> 02:13:54.560
software seemed to change, and their
accessibility and ease to work with seemed just

2205
02:13:54.640 --> 02:13:58.079
a little different. Like they knew
I don't know, I don't know somebody

2206
02:13:58.159 --> 02:14:01.399
knew. Yeah, I mean,
sure somebody knew. Obviously the atmosphere or

2207
02:14:01.399 --> 02:14:03.239
the culture was probably changed. But
I think it was one of those things

2208
02:14:03.239 --> 02:14:05.000
where also, like you know,
like the writing was was starting to really

2209
02:14:05.239 --> 02:14:09.279
hit the wall on that stuff for
a couple of reasons, and it was

2210
02:14:09.399 --> 02:14:13.039
just like the software wasn't selling,
like it wasn't connecting with people the way

2211
02:14:13.079 --> 02:14:16.600
that it should have been, or
would have been if the games were better.

2212
02:14:16.640 --> 02:14:18.840
I guess ultimately, you know,
it's like there was just some stuff

2213
02:14:18.840 --> 02:14:20.479
coming out. You're like, I
mean there's some innovation here, there's some

2214
02:14:20.520 --> 02:14:26.199
really interesting stuff, but it's just
not like it's too weird still. You

2215
02:14:26.239 --> 02:14:31.399
know, they would innovate and put
out, you know, a big online

2216
02:14:31.479 --> 02:14:33.000
game like Alien Front Online or something
like that, and you know it's like

2217
02:14:33.079 --> 02:14:37.439
here's this action game the shooter and
stuff like that, but it never got

2218
02:14:37.479 --> 02:14:39.880
out there in a way that fit, you know, with the other shooters,

2219
02:14:41.000 --> 02:14:43.720
and it never they didn't market it
at all. I don't remember if

2220
02:14:43.720 --> 02:14:46.800
they even market at all. They
probably did, but you know, they

2221
02:14:48.640 --> 02:14:50.920
just didn't seem like they had their
ship together when it came to getting their

2222
02:14:50.960 --> 02:14:58.840
games in front of people, and
the PS two was just fucking drilling it

2223
02:15:00.199 --> 02:15:01.960
every chance it had, just on
perception alone. Even before the PS two

2224
02:15:03.039 --> 02:15:05.640
was out, you know, like
all people were talking about is how much

2225
02:15:05.640 --> 02:15:09.520
they wanted a PS two, and
everybody's saying, I'm not getting the Dreamcast

2226
02:15:09.560 --> 02:15:11.399
because I'm waiting for and then you
know, you had I mean, there's

2227
02:15:11.399 --> 02:15:15.520
a ton of factors. I mean, it's it's like weird to think about

2228
02:15:15.600 --> 02:15:20.439
now, but like at that time
when EA said we're not making games for

2229
02:15:20.520 --> 02:15:22.920
the Dreamcast like it, Matt.
You know, Madden was a very big

2230
02:15:24.039 --> 02:15:28.279
deal, and it's crazy to think
because Sega went out and made a better

2231
02:15:28.399 --> 02:15:31.680
fucking football game, but that didn't
matter because they didn't have Madden. So

2232
02:15:31.760 --> 02:15:33.640
yet people are like, well,
I'm waiting for the PS two because I

2233
02:15:33.720 --> 02:15:37.880
know that they're gonna have Madden,
you know. And I think a lot

2234
02:15:37.880 --> 02:15:41.279
of people that had that attitude were
not super educated and did not follow games

2235
02:15:41.399 --> 02:15:45.720
very closely. Otherwise they would have
known like that's ridiculous and this football games

2236
02:15:45.760 --> 02:15:48.600
actually I'm better, but it's like
whatever I need, Matt, you know.

2237
02:15:48.680 --> 02:15:50.560
The same way It's like, you
know, if four years ago or

2238
02:15:50.600 --> 02:15:52.680
something someone said like, oh,
well you know, there's no call of

2239
02:15:52.760 --> 02:15:56.239
duty on this platform, it would
have been like what, well, fuck

2240
02:15:56.279 --> 02:15:58.680
you, I'm not getting that.
I was like, well, we got

2241
02:15:58.800 --> 02:16:03.520
nine other shooters. Yeah, So
I don't know, like, there just

2242
02:16:03.560 --> 02:16:07.520
seemed like there were some subtle,
weird changes that like when they made that

2243
02:16:07.560 --> 02:16:15.920
announcement, the extent of it was
shocking, but not that shocking, I

2244
02:16:16.039 --> 02:16:16.960
guess. I mean, you were
on the conference call, right, I

2245
02:16:18.079 --> 02:16:22.039
was like, what was the language? So just like exiting Peter Moore saying

2246
02:16:22.079 --> 02:16:24.600
like business are effective. You know, Oh, man, I wish I

2247
02:16:26.800 --> 02:16:28.680
I don't know. I wonder that
word out there somewhere. Yeah, yeah,

2248
02:16:28.840 --> 02:16:31.640
I kind of want to hear that. No I can't. I hear

2249
02:16:31.840 --> 02:16:37.120
like my weird thing is part of
that. What what did you ask a

2250
02:16:37.239 --> 02:16:41.239
question? No? I didn't,
but so so I know I've told this

2251
02:16:41.319 --> 02:16:46.639
think so you know, Dan probably
hasn't heard it at least. Uh.

2252
02:16:46.799 --> 02:16:48.399
The day that they canceled the Dreamcast, I was home sick, and they

2253
02:16:48.440 --> 02:16:50.959
said, we're having a conference call
to talk about the future of the Dreamcast.

2254
02:16:52.319 --> 02:16:54.159
And it was like ominous in a
way. You're like, oh,

2255
02:16:54.559 --> 02:16:54.920
like at that point, I think, I want to say, like the

2256
02:16:56.000 --> 02:16:58.079
day before, the day before that, or something like, it had gotten

2257
02:16:58.120 --> 02:17:03.399
out a little bit. It and
retailers were like running from the fucking Dreamcast

2258
02:17:03.479 --> 02:17:07.440
or whatever it was. But you
kind of knew that something drastic was about

2259
02:17:07.479 --> 02:17:11.000
to happen from just the tenor of
things the past couple of day. So

2260
02:17:11.079 --> 02:17:16.760
I was home, just stomach sick. So I was on the toilet doing

2261
02:17:16.799 --> 02:17:22.520
what you do when your stomach sick, just just emptying. Just it was

2262
02:17:22.559 --> 02:17:26.959
a making a mess, making a
goddamn mess and listening to this conference call,

2263
02:17:26.000 --> 02:17:30.319
which I had on a speakerphone in
the other room and muted, and

2264
02:17:30.680 --> 02:17:31.959
just at one point, you know, they're they're at the end of the

2265
02:17:33.000 --> 02:17:35.360
call. They took questions, you
know, like like like you do on

2266
02:17:35.600 --> 02:17:37.719
an invest your phone call. We're
like, you know, you push the

2267
02:17:37.799 --> 02:17:41.079
button and say your name when you
connect to the call, so they know

2268
02:17:41.159 --> 02:17:43.799
who's who, and then you push
a button saying you have a question.

2269
02:17:43.920 --> 02:17:46.680
And at some point they just go, Jeff Gersman from videogames dot com,

2270
02:17:46.760 --> 02:17:48.399
you have a question or I guess
we were actually just game spot at that

2271
02:17:48.440 --> 02:17:54.079
point. We were all merged in, I think, and there I am

2272
02:17:54.159 --> 02:17:58.920
sitting on the toilet and other one's
going and I just stayed deaf, deadly

2273
02:17:58.959 --> 02:18:01.399
silent. I knew the phone was
you did, but I was like hello,

2274
02:18:01.680 --> 02:18:03.440
hello, and then went on to
the next call. But I was

2275
02:18:03.440 --> 02:18:09.120
just like, that's yeah, I
don't know. That's how I remember the

2276
02:18:09.159 --> 02:18:13.440
cancelation of the Dreamcast. Yeah,
yeah, it's like so it's a yeah.

2277
02:18:13.479 --> 02:18:15.760
The story of the launch of the
Dreamcast was super weird for me.

2278
02:18:15.879 --> 02:18:18.280
The cancelation was super weird for me. Was that was that o two one

2279
02:18:20.040 --> 02:18:22.520
one of the other. I think
they made it to maybe O two that

2280
02:18:22.559 --> 02:18:24.479
sounds right. I think it was
earlier in the year. Also, you

2281
02:18:24.520 --> 02:18:26.559
know, piracy had become a real
prompt for them. You're right, you

2282
02:18:26.639 --> 02:18:28.239
know that was the other That was
I mean, that was the arc of

2283
02:18:28.239 --> 02:18:31.280
the Dreamcast. For me. That
was I was still in college, like

2284
02:18:31.840 --> 02:18:33.719
or towards the end, I guess, but uh, well no, because

2285
02:18:33.719 --> 02:18:39.280
it launched what is the thing?
Yeah, Like I had multiple friends who

2286
02:18:39.280 --> 02:18:41.879
went to the local mall and like
stood in line and got that thing at

2287
02:18:41.879 --> 02:18:46.239
midnight and came back and we all
played soul caliber and drank shitty pier and

2288
02:18:46.399 --> 02:18:48.120
like had our minds blown. Yeah. Like at the time, it seemed

2289
02:18:48.120 --> 02:18:52.799
like a big fucking deal. Remember
seeing the launch of it was a big

2290
02:18:52.879 --> 02:18:54.319
yeah, Like it seemed like shit, they moved hardware, they go,

2291
02:18:54.440 --> 02:18:56.600
they turned this into an event,
Like people went and lined up for it,

2292
02:18:56.680 --> 02:19:00.399
and it looks amazing, like this
is gonna be some they got a

2293
02:19:00.399 --> 02:19:05.840
spot a Good Morning America. Yeah, sure. But then but then yeah,

2294
02:19:05.840 --> 02:19:07.920
over time, like I remember towards
the end, like as I was

2295
02:19:09.120 --> 02:19:13.200
like close to graduation and coming out
here and stuff, like half my friends

2296
02:19:13.280 --> 02:19:16.159
just had binders full of CDRs.
Yeah, because that was the point where

2297
02:19:16.159 --> 02:19:18.280
you didn't even have like, didn't
have to mod there was a disc or

2298
02:19:18.280 --> 02:19:22.600
anything. It was just like just
literally just directly download download like stripped images

2299
02:19:22.639 --> 02:19:24.440
of games and burn it and play
it. And I was just like,

2300
02:19:24.520 --> 02:19:26.879
oh my god, like this thing
got hired. It so fucking bad.

2301
02:19:26.360 --> 02:19:30.680
Yeah, And and so you know
that spooked a lot of the third parties,

2302
02:19:30.719 --> 02:19:35.399
and the third party support was already
wasn't outstanding, you know, so

2303
02:19:35.520 --> 02:19:39.200
it wasn't We never saw a penpen
tryslon too, which is this reals unfortunate.

2304
02:19:39.280 --> 02:19:41.239
So you don't think it was a
hardware install based thing so much as

2305
02:19:41.360 --> 02:19:45.479
just the games weren't moving. I
think it's a it's a little bit of

2306
02:19:45.520 --> 02:19:48.000
everything, you know. I think
that you know, the hardware didn't catch

2307
02:19:48.040 --> 02:19:52.440
on at the rate that it maybe
should have for as cool of a system

2308
02:19:52.479 --> 02:19:56.120
that was out of the gate.
Yeah, I think the software didn't always

2309
02:19:56.120 --> 02:19:58.520
hold up its end of the bargain, especially some of the third party stuff.

2310
02:20:00.920 --> 02:20:03.360
And I think, you know,
to some extent, you know,

2311
02:20:03.639 --> 02:20:07.639
tastes were changing, you know,
the the quirky stuff that that was coming

2312
02:20:07.680 --> 02:20:11.840
out of the Dreamcast is like it's
amazing because it's like stuff that just like

2313
02:20:11.719 --> 02:20:15.959
you know, Tokyo Bus Guide coming
out in Japan and it's like going getting

2314
02:20:15.959 --> 02:20:20.520
all this freaky shit importing stuff and
all that was just amazing. But you

2315
02:20:20.600 --> 02:20:26.879
know, the the people wanted Madden
and that was on PS two. You

2316
02:20:26.000 --> 02:20:31.520
know, uh, you know,
Namco never really got truly serious about the

2317
02:20:31.600 --> 02:20:35.719
Dreamcast. Yeah, I mean,
Soul Caliber is as serious as guess I

2318
02:20:35.760 --> 02:20:39.239
guess. It's like that's still one
of the marquee games. But they were

2319
02:20:39.280 --> 02:20:43.079
never really there fully. It felt
like like was there ever a tech No?

2320
02:20:43.360 --> 02:20:48.360
No, no, that was no. That was the thing that happened

2321
02:20:48.200 --> 02:20:52.879
because I was on whatever game spot
TV talking to Sessler around the time of

2322
02:20:52.879 --> 02:20:56.600
the Dreamcast launch and I said I
would really like to see a techn game

2323
02:20:56.639 --> 02:21:00.920
on this system, and then that
got translated into Japanese, and then when

2324
02:21:01.000 --> 02:21:03.760
it aired in Japan, it said
I can't, like you know, basically

2325
02:21:03.760 --> 02:21:07.959
it was like me saying that there
was a tech in game coming. Japan

2326
02:21:07.159 --> 02:21:11.760
reported that we have words that at
teching games coming to the Dreamcast, and

2327
02:21:11.799 --> 02:21:15.440
then by the time it all got
debunked, it like everyone's an idiot.

2328
02:21:16.280 --> 02:21:20.360
Everyone in this whole chain of events
and wow, your words because it got

2329
02:21:20.399 --> 02:21:22.719
back to me and I was like, awesome, they're making a tea.

2330
02:21:24.680 --> 02:21:28.680
It's fucking great. I was just
saying how they should do that. Yeah.

2331
02:21:30.040 --> 02:21:33.879
I remember being so disappointed when I
brought my Dreamcast home on launch day,

2332
02:21:33.920 --> 02:21:35.040
which I wanted a bet, which
is great on launch day, I

2333
02:21:35.079 --> 02:21:39.399
want a bet and want a Dreamcast, but I assume, hang on,

2334
02:21:39.520 --> 02:21:41.639
what was the bet? It's real
stupid. I was my mom. It

2335
02:21:41.799 --> 02:21:46.840
was it was whatever the Sunday was
before the launch day of ninety nine,

2336
02:21:48.040 --> 02:21:50.559
and I wanted a Dreamcast but I
didn't have the money and my mom was

2337
02:21:50.680 --> 02:21:54.120
upstairs and I was down to ninety
nine maybe or the Sunday before whatever it

2338
02:21:54.319 --> 02:21:58.399
was, Yeah, and my mom
was like, what channels the Chiefs came

2339
02:21:58.440 --> 02:22:00.399
on? Because I was starting to
watch it downstairs. It was like the

2340
02:22:00.399 --> 02:22:01.799
first quarter. I was like,
oh, it's on CBS and she's like,

2341
02:22:01.920 --> 02:22:05.000
nah, it's not right. It's
gotta be on NBC. I was

2342
02:22:05.000 --> 02:22:05.760
like, no, I've got it
on down here. It's on CBS.

2343
02:22:05.799 --> 02:22:09.120
I see the little eye logo here. She's like, that's not right.

2344
02:22:09.120 --> 02:22:11.280
I'll bet you anything. I was
like, all right, Dreamcast is coming

2345
02:22:11.319 --> 02:22:13.719
out in a couple of days.
How about if it's on CBS, you

2346
02:22:13.799 --> 02:22:18.040
buy me dreamcasts on last day.
If not, I'll do chores for free

2347
02:22:18.120 --> 02:22:20.319
for three months. Because I knew
I was right, She's like, you're

2348
02:22:20.399 --> 02:22:22.159
on and so I told her to
come downstairs and she saw the CBS logo

2349
02:22:22.200 --> 02:22:24.760
and she's like, all right,
I guess I gotta buy your dreamcast.

2350
02:22:24.680 --> 02:22:28.040
Oh yeah, And so I got
it, and I got it two k

2351
02:22:28.159 --> 02:22:31.040
Ready to Rumble, Boxing, Soul
Caliber and Sonic Adventure. She wow,

2352
02:22:31.399 --> 02:22:35.040
yeah, did you marry you?
Ever? Did you get the rerelease Ready

2353
02:22:35.040 --> 02:22:37.239
to Rumble to have the little little
sticker on it so it didn't have the

2354
02:22:37.239 --> 02:22:41.079
audio bug? I don't think so. So the first there was the problem

2355
02:22:41.120 --> 02:22:43.280
with the first runt of games where
there would be like an auto right to

2356
02:22:43.319 --> 02:22:46.719
you. Yeah, I remember that
that they ended up rereleasing. More importantly,

2357
02:22:48.200 --> 02:22:50.639
do your chores? Nobody's I won
the bet. He won the bet.

2358
02:22:50.760 --> 02:22:54.280
Yeah, But the beat was if
I lost, I hadn't be absolve

2359
02:22:54.319 --> 02:22:56.879
you from responsibility of doing your shores. I had Soul Caliber, I didn't

2360
02:22:56.879 --> 02:23:00.680
need chores any money. But I
was so bummed out because having not been

2361
02:23:00.719 --> 02:23:03.879
a PC game or ever I'd never
been able to play games online, and

2362
02:23:03.879 --> 02:23:05.079
it always sounded like the most fascinating
thing in the world to me. I

2363
02:23:05.079 --> 02:23:09.520
remember like trying to install Half Life
and so I could play Team Fortress because

2364
02:23:09.520 --> 02:23:11.479
it sounded like the coolest thing in
the world. And it does nothing work

2365
02:23:11.520 --> 02:23:15.520
because I don't even think we had
the internet back then, And so finally

2366
02:23:15.520 --> 02:23:18.120
I would that would do it?
Yeah, which I remember going to dos

2367
02:23:18.440 --> 02:23:24.120
and the C colon backslash. I
remember seeing commercials for Zoop on Super Nintendo,

2368
02:23:24.520 --> 02:23:26.200
that puzzle game, and be like, hey, you can play a

2369
02:23:26.280 --> 02:23:28.760
demo of Zoop right now. I'd
go to zoop dot com and I was

2370
02:23:28.760 --> 02:23:30.760
like, I can play this game
for free, and so I would go

2371
02:23:30.879 --> 02:23:33.920
to the sea prompt on doc would
be like www dot zoop dot com.

2372
02:23:35.000 --> 02:23:39.520
It'd be like file directory not found. I'm gonna have kids at schoolould be

2373
02:23:39.520 --> 02:23:41.440
like, I know how to hack
onto the internet. Oh, I can

2374
02:23:41.479 --> 02:23:43.600
figure this out. I got the
C colon thing, I'll figure out how

2375
02:23:43.639 --> 02:23:46.559
to hack into it and play Zoop. Where the hell was I going with

2376
02:23:46.639 --> 02:23:50.959
all that? Did you ever finally
play Zoop and go? Oh? Man?

2377
02:23:50.120 --> 02:23:54.639
I bought Zoop at Blockbuster. They
had a used like after PlayStation already

2378
02:23:54.680 --> 02:23:56.719
came out of bout it for like
five dollars and never played it much.

2379
02:23:56.040 --> 02:24:00.280
But where the hell is I going? Yeah? So I always on play

2380
02:24:00.280 --> 02:24:03.000
online games, and I was reading
an AGM and everything that like, yeah,

2381
02:24:03.040 --> 02:24:05.479
the Dreamcast is going to be ready
for online, you know, right

2382
02:24:05.520 --> 02:24:07.479
out of the gate. And it's
like awesome, I finally get to play

2383
02:24:07.479 --> 02:24:09.440
these games. And I was so
hyped for Soul Caliber, and it delivered

2384
02:24:09.520 --> 02:24:13.440
one of my favorite games of all
time. But I would see these reviews

2385
02:24:13.479 --> 02:24:16.120
that are like ten out of ten
from EGM, like the whole review crew

2386
02:24:16.200 --> 02:24:18.200
said ten out of ten. And
so I got it, and I just

2387
02:24:18.280 --> 02:24:20.360
assumed I was gonna be able to
play it online right away. So I

2388
02:24:20.399 --> 02:24:22.079
get home, I just put my
Dreamcast down, not knowing anything about the

2389
02:24:22.120 --> 02:24:26.600
internet, and I just took the
fifty six K the phone thing or whatever

2390
02:24:26.879 --> 02:24:28.559
just plugged it into my Dreamcast.
I'm like going through the menus, like

2391
02:24:28.680 --> 02:24:33.520
all right, do I go into
verses to play online? And it turns

2392
02:24:33.559 --> 02:24:35.000
out do you have to like build
a game to play Online's? I just

2393
02:24:35.040 --> 02:24:39.120
play a multiplayer game, so it's
not like the X Band the Second Channel.

2394
02:24:39.280 --> 02:24:41.479
Yeah, I think I had the
modem built in, right, Yeah,

2395
02:24:41.559 --> 02:24:45.760
yeah it was removable but yes,
okay, but you didn't have to

2396
02:24:45.799 --> 02:24:48.639
buy it separately nor remember the GameCube
had some separate thing like I guess you

2397
02:24:48.680 --> 02:24:52.879
could technically play Mario Kard Double Dash
through a modem thing. Yeah there was.

2398
02:24:52.959 --> 02:24:56.879
You can fantasy Star Adopter like fantasy
Star Online. Yeah, every three

2399
02:24:58.159 --> 02:25:01.399
the card battling game. Yeah,
we're selling those at games stuff. What

2400
02:25:01.520 --> 02:25:03.280
the fuck is this? Like,
I didn't even know games it worked for.

2401
02:25:03.280 --> 02:25:07.200
Yeah, the Dreamcast was kind of
a special system, it was,

2402
02:25:07.600 --> 02:25:11.840
I was thinking, and we likely
shall not see it's it's like again,

2403
02:25:13.000 --> 02:25:16.959
it just seems too weird in retrospect. Yeah, like games are weird in

2404
02:25:16.959 --> 02:25:20.600
a different way now and then you
know, you see some of that spirit,

2405
02:25:20.680 --> 02:25:22.879
but a lot of it is just
you know, independent games coming out

2406
02:25:22.879 --> 02:25:26.159
of the PC and now well and
now consoles too. But that's setting a

2407
02:25:26.159 --> 02:25:30.959
lot of space channels and jet grinds
and shoot rockets and Seaman's we're seeing,

2408
02:25:30.959 --> 02:25:33.639
you know, like was it curse
the necro Dancer? You know, It's

2409
02:25:33.639 --> 02:25:37.079
like, but even a lot of
that stuff exists. Even even a lot

2410
02:25:37.120 --> 02:25:41.680
of that stuff hues a little more
closely to establish kind of rule sets and

2411
02:25:41.680 --> 02:25:45.040
stuff. It's a rhythm game and
a roguelike, but those are still things

2412
02:25:45.120 --> 02:25:48.399
that you know, as opposed to
like Semn Like what the fuck was the

2413
02:25:48.479 --> 02:25:50.399
man? It was awesome? I
loved see man, Where did stuff like

2414
02:25:50.399 --> 02:25:52.520
that come from? Like wherever Gang
Beasts at least? Yeah? Yeah.

2415
02:25:52.559 --> 02:25:56.840
Gang Beast is like kind of an
example of like I not my wildest dreams

2416
02:25:56.879 --> 02:25:58.920
could I have envisioned a game like
this, and yet here it is.

2417
02:26:00.239 --> 02:26:03.000
I still it would put it to
you that I think that, like you're

2418
02:26:03.079 --> 02:26:05.360
right on like an individual case by
case level, but I think like today,

2419
02:26:05.559 --> 02:26:09.440
right now, games have never been
better. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

2420
02:26:09.440 --> 02:26:11.760
you're right. No, the referring
has never been There are richer,

2421
02:26:13.200 --> 02:26:15.520
more and better and more varied games. You're totally right. I mean,

2422
02:26:15.959 --> 02:26:20.959
also part of it was that there
was such a unified, like corporate backing

2423
02:26:20.040 --> 02:26:24.200
to this thing. And I'd like
to see a giant corporation make this system,

2424
02:26:24.399 --> 02:26:26.399
yeah and put that kind of room
behind it like that. You know

2425
02:26:26.440 --> 02:26:31.799
you're gonna see it iterated on by
like little indie studios over and over right

2426
02:26:31.879 --> 02:26:35.000
right to see one big publisher,
you know, putting that much money behind

2427
02:26:35.040 --> 02:26:39.639
it it's kind of insane. Segad
was always a weird fucking company. Yeah.

2428
02:26:39.840 --> 02:26:43.799
Yeah, they made their arcade transition, they did their stuff. It

2429
02:26:43.879 --> 02:26:50.520
was just a they were always crazy. Ye nice belly up to the mic,

2430
02:26:50.600 --> 02:26:56.200
next time you do that. Dan, riff Raff and Guar, says

2431
02:26:56.280 --> 02:27:01.760
Nick from Detroit, gentleman, I
remember of the insane clown posse. I'm

2432
02:27:01.760 --> 02:27:05.280
gonna say, yes, Okay from
Detroit, and he's from Detroit's right they

2433
02:27:05.360 --> 02:27:09.319
really frightened about Yeah, Southwest del
Ray. God damn it. Thought I

2434
02:27:09.319 --> 02:27:13.280
would have known that too. Yeah, I do that. I enjoyed Dan's

2435
02:27:13.280 --> 02:27:16.399
story about riff Raff's visit to his
office and was wondering if he has any

2436
02:27:16.440 --> 02:27:22.040
stories about when they had Guarre making
appearance ri ip Odorus Aungus. Yeah,

2437
02:27:22.120 --> 02:27:24.719
those guys were genuinely insane. Uh. They were great. They weren't like

2438
02:27:24.840 --> 02:27:28.719
Riff. They were the opposite of
riff Raff in terms of like the energy

2439
02:27:28.760 --> 02:27:31.280
they brought. Riff Raff just seemed
like he wanted to be anywhere else.

2440
02:27:31.639 --> 02:27:33.520
Guar was super into it. And
if I think it's on YouTube, Stiller

2441
02:27:33.559 --> 02:27:39.760
Game and Pharma site just searched for
connect Ki and the Microsoft act Guarre and

2442
02:27:39.840 --> 02:27:43.079
they were like dancing the Lady Gaga
and Dance Central and stuff and going around

2443
02:27:43.079 --> 02:27:45.079
the office just kind of freaking everyone
out. They were awesome. They gave

2444
02:27:45.120 --> 02:27:48.600
us tickets to the show. It
was great. Yeah, Guaro played around

2445
02:27:48.120 --> 02:27:52.280
in my town like a fair amount. Okay, like I could get into

2446
02:27:52.319 --> 02:27:54.959
a lot of those shows wait at
smaller venues. They really They played the

2447
02:27:56.000 --> 02:27:58.040
Phoenix Fairy. I always thought of
them as like an arena band for some

2448
02:27:58.120 --> 02:28:03.799
reason, and not maybe and clubs
and stuff, kind of wars, kind

2449
02:28:03.799 --> 02:28:05.559
of guars about to start tap some
crowd and stuff. I'm gonna stand at

2450
02:28:05.559 --> 02:28:09.520
the back here and watch this for
a while. Fucking all right, let's

2451
02:28:09.520 --> 02:28:13.920
go. Let's go to a bar. Well. I remember a few things

2452
02:28:13.959 --> 02:28:15.920
that weren't in the video because the
video is pretty long. We got a

2453
02:28:15.959 --> 02:28:18.479
lot of stuff in there. But
we had some beers in our fridge and

2454
02:28:18.479 --> 02:28:20.920
they just immediately just went in and
started drinking all of our beers. You

2455
02:28:20.959 --> 02:28:24.280
know, I didn't ask or anything. They carried around these giant hockey bags

2456
02:28:24.319 --> 02:28:26.600
for all their gear, and it
just smelled like shit, just like the

2457
02:28:26.000 --> 02:28:33.600
sweatiest rubber horse shit. It was
terrible. Odorus was super obsessed with trying

2458
02:28:33.639 --> 02:28:37.760
to get me to get ahold of
one of my GameMaker friends to make a

2459
02:28:37.840 --> 02:28:39.760
Guar video game, and he like
clearly had put a lot of time into

2460
02:28:39.799 --> 02:28:41.959
thinking this. He said he wanted
to be like World of Warcraft on the

2461
02:28:43.040 --> 02:28:46.120
scale of World Warcraft naturally and be
like the Guar universe. He's like,

2462
02:28:46.159 --> 02:28:48.360
Oh, We've got thirty years of
lore built up, Like this is gonna

2463
02:28:48.360 --> 02:28:50.600
be a thing, Like who what's
the developer? Who do we who do

2464
02:28:50.639 --> 02:28:52.040
you need to get me in touch
with? And like god, like he

2465
02:28:52.200 --> 02:28:56.000
was super earnest about like he really
wanted this, and like I justused to

2466
02:28:56.120 --> 02:28:58.559
know what to tell him, Like
I don't know, Like I think I

2467
02:28:58.639 --> 02:29:03.920
said double fine or something. But
that's an inspired choice that makes a lot

2468
02:29:03.959 --> 02:29:07.040
of sense in a lot of ways. Off. Yeah, so a real

2469
02:29:07.120 --> 02:29:11.440
legend could have been something completely different. Yeah. I think the one thing

2470
02:29:11.479 --> 02:29:16.719
I remember the most is Odorous was
changing into his gear in our little break

2471
02:29:16.799 --> 02:29:18.959
room, which doesn't really have a
door try you just kind of walk in,

2472
02:29:20.520 --> 02:29:22.479
and he was like in the middle
of changing. Well, okay,

2473
02:29:22.479 --> 02:29:26.280
so I didn't see this first.
I was walking behind Megan Marie, who

2474
02:29:26.399 --> 02:29:28.799
used to work at Game in former
then went to a tomb raider and now

2475
02:29:28.799 --> 02:29:31.760
I think she works on legal legends
or something. And so she was just

2476
02:29:31.840 --> 02:29:35.479
walking into the kitchen to get her
coffee. She had her mug, and

2477
02:29:35.600 --> 02:29:37.319
I was right behind her because I
was gonna walk in and check on Odorous.

2478
02:29:39.079 --> 02:29:41.959
I see here, take like one
step into the kitchen, stop deadner

2479
02:29:41.040 --> 02:29:45.200
tracks, turn around with her eyes
just completely wide, and just walk the

2480
02:29:45.280 --> 02:29:46.799
other direction. I was like,
what did she just see? And I

2481
02:29:46.920 --> 02:29:50.760
walk in and it's Odorous. He's
wearing nothing except for he's got like these

2482
02:29:50.799 --> 02:29:54.000
panties on. He's got his big
shoulder pads on, and he's bending over

2483
02:29:54.120 --> 02:29:58.159
like lacing up his boots and it's
like full on fish nets, like no

2484
02:29:58.319 --> 02:30:01.719
shirt or anything, just fish nets
and panties and like spiky shoulder pads.

2485
02:30:01.879 --> 02:30:03.319
I don't even know if Megan new
Guar was in the office or anything.

2486
02:30:03.520 --> 02:30:07.440
She just walks in and she just
sees like his ass and fish nets and

2487
02:30:07.520 --> 02:30:11.000
spiky road warrior pads and like,
just okay, I'm going out of this

2488
02:30:11.120 --> 02:30:15.959
room immediately, justifiably so. And
yeah, other than that, yeah,

2489
02:30:15.959 --> 02:30:18.959
they wrote Guar was here in dust
on the top of our ending machine,

2490
02:30:18.959 --> 02:30:22.079
which I'm sure you're still there.
They had drank our beer. They were

2491
02:30:22.120 --> 02:30:24.120
just super into it. They were
They were a lot of fun, did

2492
02:30:24.159 --> 02:30:28.280
they they introduce themselves by their stage
names? No, I think Odorus said

2493
02:30:28.280 --> 02:30:31.120
like Dave Brocky and stuff like.
Yeah, I mean they were, I

2494
02:30:31.200 --> 02:30:35.479
mean they were loud personalities, but
they didn't necessarily live at twenty four seven.

2495
02:30:35.479 --> 02:30:39.360
Okay, weren't riffraff? Okay,
all right, so yeah they were

2496
02:30:39.399 --> 02:30:41.440
cool guys for sure, because like
the guy had a post tripped about riffraff

2497
02:30:41.479 --> 02:30:46.639
but already closed the email. It
wasn't that interesting. Yeah, okay,

2498
02:30:48.840 --> 02:30:52.280
here's an email from Ransom, which
is pretty sweet name. Yeah, I

2499
02:30:52.399 --> 02:30:54.959
think I think that's a good name. You go by Randy At that point,

2500
02:30:56.879 --> 02:30:58.520
I think I'd think i'd call myself
random, probably go by Ransom.

2501
02:31:00.000 --> 02:31:03.319
Why do you like Half Life?
That's the question? Hey, everybody,

2502
02:31:03.079 --> 02:31:07.399
I never actually had a computer capable
of running games on it when I was

2503
02:31:07.440 --> 02:31:09.200
growing up, so I never had
the opportunity to play PC only games.

2504
02:31:09.280 --> 02:31:13.040
Can you guys genuinely tell me what
it is about Half Life that makes you

2505
02:31:13.120 --> 02:31:16.159
all talk about it in such high
regard. I realize it's out on the

2506
02:31:16.200 --> 02:31:18.520
three sixty and such, but I
never had much interest to check it out

2507
02:31:18.559 --> 02:31:22.239
before. I'd love to hear all
of your thoughts. Maybe this will help

2508
02:31:22.280 --> 02:31:26.600
me understand the outcry for Half Life
three. It's a good question. Yeah,

2509
02:31:26.639 --> 02:31:28.959
it's a really good question. I
probably have a similar thing as him.

2510
02:31:30.000 --> 02:31:31.040
You know, I've said in Numerou
simes out how I couldn't play PC

2511
02:31:31.159 --> 02:31:33.760
games back then. So when I
played Half Life one, actually, the

2512
02:31:33.799 --> 02:31:37.159
first time I played through it the
whole way through was for a game form

2513
02:31:37.280 --> 02:31:39.399
video like two years ago, and
like Half Life two, I didn't play

2514
02:31:39.520 --> 02:31:43.159
until like after the Orange Box came
out. So, but when you look

2515
02:31:43.200 --> 02:31:46.159
at its time and place when those
games were released, like when the original

2516
02:31:46.239 --> 02:31:50.079
Half Life came out, like the
other stuff that I was up against a

2517
02:31:50.120 --> 02:31:52.799
lot of arena shooter type stuff,
Half Life seemed to have more going out,

2518
02:31:52.840 --> 02:31:56.280
like more of a living world,
like more of an attempted narrative here.

2519
02:31:56.319 --> 02:31:58.000
Two Yeah, I mean it was
the first. It was the first

2520
02:31:58.040 --> 02:32:01.520
first person shooter at that time to
really tell a cohesive story from start to

2521
02:32:01.520 --> 02:32:03.399
finish. I don't know, man, Did you play Sin, Yes?

2522
02:32:03.479 --> 02:32:07.200
I did. Did you finish Sin? Yes? I did? Fuck half

2523
02:32:07.280 --> 02:32:09.559
Life, I don't know, man, I mean, yeah, okay,

2524
02:32:09.559 --> 02:32:11.920
you're right. There were other games
trying to do the same thing at the

2525
02:32:11.959 --> 02:32:13.680
same time, but like, I
mean, you're right, at a Half

2526
02:32:13.719 --> 02:32:18.239
Life had a certain atmosphere to it
with those other games, like I love

2527
02:32:18.319 --> 02:32:20.719
Sin for what it is, but
come on, yeah, and I'm yeah,

2528
02:32:20.879 --> 02:32:24.280
I love Sin and I backed I
backed to Sin in the Sin versus

2529
02:32:24.280 --> 02:32:28.600
Half Live war that existed in my
head. I think that was kind of

2530
02:32:28.680 --> 02:32:30.920
real. Yeah, it wasn't.
I think there was something to that because

2531
02:32:30.959 --> 02:32:35.319
Sin with the multiplayer was incredible.
Yeah, yeah, I mean player and

2532
02:32:35.360 --> 02:32:37.159
Half Live was shit. I didn't
love it, but it was okay.

2533
02:32:37.200 --> 02:32:41.600
It eventually turned into you know,
a bunch of extremely popular games obviously,

2534
02:32:41.760 --> 02:32:45.840
but you know, but yeah,
those games were only a few months apart.

2535
02:32:45.879 --> 02:32:48.600
I think. I mean, the
intro to Half Life one is amazing.

2536
02:32:48.719 --> 02:32:52.159
Yeah, well, I like that
whole just the audacity of like starting

2537
02:32:52.200 --> 02:32:54.760
your game with like zero combat and
go in there for for what that genre

2538
02:32:54.920 --> 02:32:58.040
was that even today it's a bit
much. It was. It was kind

2539
02:32:58.040 --> 02:33:00.840
of yeah, it was. It
was unheard of at the time to have

2540
02:33:01.000 --> 02:33:03.799
this extended narrative set piece, like
you know, they were building world atmosphere,

2541
02:33:03.799 --> 02:33:07.280
they were kind of introducing you into
the environment and the premise. But

2542
02:33:07.760 --> 02:33:09.920
more than that, I mean,
like shooters up to that point, you

2543
02:33:09.000 --> 02:33:11.399
know, like Sen had a little
bit of a story to it, but

2544
02:33:11.920 --> 02:33:16.719
generally it was just a Doom style
set of levels, you know, kind

2545
02:33:16.760 --> 02:33:18.399
of arranged end to end. Yeah, but you just ran through and killed

2546
02:33:18.399 --> 02:33:20.959
shit in until it was over.
More than a story. It's more of

2547
02:33:22.000 --> 02:33:24.079
the presentation, yeah, thereof you
know. Yeah, Like you know,

2548
02:33:24.159 --> 02:33:28.959
the maps in Half Life were obviously
were discreet maps because that's how the engine

2549
02:33:30.000 --> 02:33:33.120
worked, but the way they arranged
them so you just hit a quick little

2550
02:33:33.159 --> 02:33:35.159
load and then you were still in
the same place, you know. Yeah,

2551
02:33:35.319 --> 02:33:37.840
Like the idea of this one contiguous
environment that went through the entire game

2552
02:33:37.959 --> 02:33:41.639
was like a like minded step of
time step on the teleporter. Right,

2553
02:33:41.680 --> 02:33:43.360
here's how many secrets you found?
Right? Yeah. No, no score

2554
02:33:43.399 --> 02:33:46.719
screens, no, nothing like.
It was just a story driven game that

2555
02:33:46.760 --> 02:33:48.360
had shooting in it, and with
two especially in terms of tech. I

2556
02:33:48.360 --> 02:33:52.280
remember the first time seeing those screen
chats and AGM and step just being like

2557
02:33:52.799 --> 02:33:54.879
that, there's no way this game
is going to look like that. That

2558
02:33:54.920 --> 02:33:58.559
looks that looks like a photograph.
Yeah, and you know, I remember

2559
02:33:58.559 --> 02:34:01.639
being so jealous people that could play
it. It just looked amazing. But

2560
02:34:01.680 --> 02:34:03.239
then by the time I actually got
around to play it on the Orange Box

2561
02:34:03.319 --> 02:34:05.440
or whatever, it's like, well, this is a really good game.

2562
02:34:05.520 --> 02:34:09.840
Obviously it's super polished and everything,
but it is hard to get that impact

2563
02:34:09.959 --> 02:34:13.520
if I then if I had played
it in yeah, yeah, by BYO

2564
02:34:13.639 --> 02:34:16.840
seven or O eight, whenever you
played the Orange Box. Yeah, like

2565
02:34:16.879 --> 02:34:20.159
a bunch and bunch of other games
would have done similar stuff by them.

2566
02:34:20.239 --> 02:34:22.360
Yeah. I call of Duty four
the intro when you're getting driven around in

2567
02:34:22.360 --> 02:34:24.239
the car and you're kind of watching
all that stuff happen. That's like the

2568
02:34:24.399 --> 02:34:26.319
you know, the original Half those
those fucking faces and Half Life two at

2569
02:34:26.360 --> 02:34:30.440
the time were just like that was
a watershed moment. And the physics and

2570
02:34:31.000 --> 02:34:33.040
those were the two things. And
facial animation one of those things that,

2571
02:34:33.159 --> 02:34:35.920
like the physics, you look at
it now, you don't really notice it.

2572
02:34:35.040 --> 02:34:37.319
It doesn't really stick out the way
that it used to, except that,

2573
02:34:37.440 --> 02:34:39.399
like you wonder, like, why
do they build a bunch of levels

2574
02:34:39.399 --> 02:34:43.440
around this physics stuff? Because that
was unheard of at the time, especially

2575
02:34:43.479 --> 02:34:46.719
in shooters. You look at what
other shooters were doing around then, Like

2576
02:34:46.799 --> 02:34:52.360
you know, everything was very static, Everything was very I remember when Counterstrike

2577
02:34:52.559 --> 02:34:58.200
Source came out and the first guy
I killed his body rag dalled. I

2578
02:34:58.280 --> 02:35:03.360
took a screen shot because I was
so blown away, like that's like that's

2579
02:35:03.399 --> 02:35:07.200
the kind of jumps that that game
was. I think. I think ces

2580
02:35:07.360 --> 02:35:11.360
Source Beta came out before Half Life
two, didn't I think? So?

2581
02:35:11.559 --> 02:35:13.280
Yeah, I seem to remember because
we got into the we got into the

2582
02:35:13.319 --> 02:35:16.879
CEA Source beta game spot and had
to install Steam for it. Right,

2583
02:35:18.079 --> 02:35:20.399
what the fuck is this? Why
do I have to install this application to

2584
02:35:20.440 --> 02:35:24.600
play this video game? Fucking DRM
bulsh. Yeah, Like it was like

2585
02:35:24.680 --> 02:35:26.719
we're just giving me the video game. I want to click on an exc

2586
02:35:26.879 --> 02:35:28.719
and go like what is this bullshit? And then Half Life two came a

2587
02:35:28.760 --> 02:35:35.600
few months later. Yeah, I
remember like at the time, like having

2588
02:35:35.799 --> 02:35:39.280
like I was not a huge Half
Life one fan. I would kind of

2589
02:35:39.319 --> 02:35:41.920
play the first single player up to
a point like over and over again and

2590
02:35:43.120 --> 02:35:46.360
never really feel like getting past it. Never. I mean, the end

2591
02:35:46.399 --> 02:35:48.040
of Half Life is weak, you
know. I think then even it's it's

2592
02:35:48.040 --> 02:35:52.799
even it's biggest fans will but then
like half Life two. I remember like

2593
02:35:54.040 --> 02:35:56.399
really trying to get into it,
and just like the physics stuff I thought

2594
02:35:56.479 --> 02:35:58.840
was like novel and interesting, but
it didn't really blow me away. Zombie

2595
02:35:58.879 --> 02:36:03.879
and half by shooting a buzz side
it's attend it just seemed like such like

2596
02:36:05.000 --> 02:36:07.719
a gimmick to me that like it
just I was too blown away, like

2597
02:36:07.959 --> 02:36:13.120
a gimmick. I don't know.
And and the atmosphere of Half Life two

2598
02:36:13.159 --> 02:36:18.639
also for whatever reason, really hooked
me as well. Yeah, I think

2599
02:36:18.680 --> 02:36:20.959
Half Life one is better in the
context of when it came out than two.

2600
02:36:22.120 --> 02:36:24.760
Is I agree, two is a
little more gimmicky to me. Two

2601
02:36:24.840 --> 02:36:28.399
to me is is it is too
long? Yes, yes, I think

2602
02:36:28.520 --> 02:36:33.520
there's a huge game. But if
they cut a third of that game out

2603
02:36:33.719 --> 02:36:37.479
or you know, maybe even more, that that would be a very tight,

2604
02:36:37.680 --> 02:36:41.559
very great game. But the lengthy
vehicle sequences and you're just get in

2605
02:36:41.600 --> 02:36:48.879
these situations where like the combat's not
always great, you know. And yeah,

2606
02:36:48.879 --> 02:36:50.559
I don't know. Half Life two, I did not love that game.

2607
02:36:50.840 --> 02:36:56.040
I remember I loved that game like
that was like, remember jasonal Campo

2608
02:36:56.079 --> 02:36:58.959
come back from this Games of ten
gives ten and just like me and Greg's

2609
02:37:00.040 --> 02:37:03.639
going come on, Drew, you
seem to love the game. Have you

2610
02:37:03.760 --> 02:37:07.120
played large chunks of it with the
oculus well calibrated for it. I took

2611
02:37:07.120 --> 02:37:11.159
an Oculus home and calibrated it like
perfectly for Half Life two and played like

2612
02:37:11.239 --> 02:37:15.200
five or six hours with it.
It is awesome, really, it is

2613
02:37:15.360 --> 02:37:18.239
so good. You gotta do some
tweaks that are easy to find. There's

2614
02:37:18.239 --> 02:37:20.799
lots of Oculus forms and stuff out
there. It is so cool. Okay,

2615
02:37:22.040 --> 02:37:24.719
yeah, okay, it's been a
couple of years. Yeah, I'd

2616
02:37:24.760 --> 02:37:28.159
recommend you take it out. Are
there like texture packs and stuff? You

2617
02:37:28.200 --> 02:37:31.479
know, I've never really known how
to like do mods and face I just

2618
02:37:31.559 --> 02:37:35.239
played the real version. I think
there is some of that stuff out there.

2619
02:37:35.639 --> 02:37:39.000
Yea. As far as all the
clamor for Half Life three, like

2620
02:37:39.120 --> 02:37:41.920
these days, I don't know what
that even means, because like, what

2621
02:37:41.959 --> 02:37:45.920
do you know that? Well,
hey, what do you want? And

2622
02:37:46.120 --> 02:37:48.639
be like? And I feel like
this is kind of a loaded question because

2623
02:37:48.680 --> 02:37:52.159
inevitably they would think of something that
I can't think of, But like,

2624
02:37:52.239 --> 02:37:54.159
what do you do with it?
You know? Well, I think so

2625
02:37:54.239 --> 02:37:58.639
much more. I think the episodes
were not like from a gameplay perspective,

2626
02:37:58.680 --> 02:38:01.040
I thought they were kind of cool, Like story wise, I didn't feel

2627
02:38:01.040 --> 02:38:05.360
great about that, Like I don't
like the characters of Half Life two right

2628
02:38:05.520 --> 02:38:07.959
to me, it's like you have
the g Man and you have Gordon and

2629
02:38:07.000 --> 02:38:09.440
anyone else like whatever. Oka.
But I mean if you look at if

2630
02:38:09.479 --> 02:38:13.760
you look at the theme of the
Half Life series as each iteration like pushing

2631
02:38:13.840 --> 02:38:18.639
the genre forward in some profound way, Like that's what people want. I

2632
02:38:18.680 --> 02:38:22.600
mean, they want a giant,
mind blowing technological lead, right, But

2633
02:38:22.600 --> 02:38:24.559
I don't know what that is at
this point, but I think it can't

2634
02:38:24.600 --> 02:38:28.200
just be that, you know,
I think that they probably want a continuation

2635
02:38:28.360 --> 02:38:30.479
of that story. There's also that, like a lot of people the way

2636
02:38:31.200 --> 02:38:33.719
up like this whole yeah, the
way the episode two ended. I know

2637
02:38:33.760 --> 02:38:35.520
a lot of people just like want
them to finish the fucking story because of

2638
02:38:35.559 --> 02:38:39.200
where they left it. Yeah,
there is that, But I feel like

2639
02:38:39.280 --> 02:38:43.479
so much of the like the mystique
of that series is like what it did

2640
02:38:43.559 --> 02:38:45.799
in the time it came out,
you know, for for that type of

2641
02:38:45.840 --> 02:38:48.959
game, and so much ground has
been covered by other shooters since then.

2642
02:38:48.040 --> 02:38:52.239
Like yeah, when it comes like
video game tech and shooter tech and stuff,

2643
02:38:52.319 --> 02:38:56.840
like I mean, the the like
VR is the only like big major

2644
02:38:56.959 --> 02:39:01.520
change you know, is out there
you can look at and go like,

2645
02:39:01.600 --> 02:39:03.959
well, this would be a thing
if they could come up with invadid ways

2646
02:39:03.959 --> 02:39:05.040
to use that. Yeah, but
even there, you got to get an

2647
02:39:05.079 --> 02:39:09.079
expensive new piece of hardware in people's
hands for that to be useful. You

2648
02:39:09.120 --> 02:39:13.920
know, you know that's the perfect
reason too. Yeah, I guess yeah,

2649
02:39:13.920 --> 02:39:18.440
because anything is going to sell if
I've had an interest in VR catching

2650
02:39:18.520 --> 02:39:24.079
on, which they seem to maybe
have that, you know, make Half

2651
02:39:24.120 --> 02:39:26.840
Live three a big VR game that
would do it? Yeah. Sure,

2652
02:39:26.920 --> 02:39:31.639
if anything's gonna sell head sets,
it's probably that. I'd Yeah, I

2653
02:39:31.719 --> 02:39:35.360
just I just wonder if they make
if they make a really good story driven

2654
02:39:35.399 --> 02:39:39.200
Half Life game that wraps things up, but but like doesn't advance things in

2655
02:39:39.440 --> 02:39:41.399
big way, Like, is that
going to be enough for people? I

2656
02:39:41.440 --> 02:39:43.840
don't think. I think that that
the game is built up so much in

2657
02:39:43.920 --> 02:39:46.600
so many people's minds. Yeah,
you know, story wise, it would

2658
02:39:46.600 --> 02:39:52.159
be very difficult to make good on
on what people have built in their heads.

2659
02:39:52.280 --> 02:39:54.799
Sure, I mean it's what I
built in my head. Is eventually

2660
02:39:54.959 --> 02:40:00.200
Gordon Freeman screaming out loud and as
shattering the entire universe g man included none

2661
02:40:00.239 --> 02:40:01.639
of it ever really exists? Oh
man, I would be all right.

2662
02:40:01.760 --> 02:40:07.520
He says one word, it's no
just and then as he's shouting, the

2663
02:40:07.600 --> 02:40:13.200
crowbar shatters in his hands in the
whole world, some kind of Saint Elsewhere

2664
02:40:13.319 --> 02:40:16.559
esque ending of just like none of
it was real. It all happened in

2665
02:40:16.600 --> 02:40:20.920
the snow globe. Yeah, we'll
see pulls out and he's in a padded

2666
02:40:20.959 --> 02:40:24.280
cell, right, and the che
man looks in cut to black credits.

2667
02:40:24.440 --> 02:40:26.440
I mean it's you know, it's
it's been way longer now since a Half

2668
02:40:26.479 --> 02:40:28.479
Life game come off, and it
was between one and two, right,

2669
02:40:30.760 --> 02:40:35.559
it was six years. Yeah,
so it's definitely been like a good couple

2670
02:40:35.559 --> 02:40:41.440
of years longer, at least,
who knows. We will see my laptop.

2671
02:40:41.479 --> 02:40:43.280
I went to sleep, so I
don't have another email quet up.

2672
02:40:43.799 --> 02:40:46.479
Somebody says something. I also played
Doom this weekend. Doom, Doom,

2673
02:40:46.799 --> 02:40:50.840
Doom, Yeah, which one and
all one on my PC. So I

2674
02:40:50.959 --> 02:40:56.319
had a we had Fantasy draft and
I had and Google hang out and the

2675
02:40:56.399 --> 02:41:03.040
top Yeah, okay, I drafted
two pink. Yeah, don't want to

2676
02:41:03.079 --> 02:41:05.120
get in on that draft. That
sounds amazing. Top left corner my screen

2677
02:41:05.239 --> 02:41:07.920
was Google hang Out. The right
side of my screen was the draft thing

2678
02:41:09.319 --> 02:41:13.120
like the flash, you know,
you know, pick all your dudes and

2679
02:41:13.200 --> 02:41:16.600
whatever, and then the lower left
was just doom because you know you have

2680
02:41:16.680 --> 02:41:18.000
to wait for people ever everyone in
your league to pick, and then it

2681
02:41:18.040 --> 02:41:20.879
comes back to your turn and seeing
me something to do in the meantime.

2682
02:41:20.920 --> 02:41:24.479
So I played in a window.
What was the actual draft happening Fantasy football?

2683
02:41:26.600 --> 02:41:33.159
Yeah, Chris from nowhere that he
identifies as a proposition. Maybe this

2684
02:41:33.239 --> 02:41:37.520
is why he didn't tell us where
he lives. Hello Giant Brad at bombnet

2685
02:41:37.680 --> 02:41:41.559
dot cast. I offer you a
unique opportunity. I will buy and ship

2686
02:41:41.600 --> 02:41:46.440
you a grip of psychotropic fun Guy
on the condition that you consume them approximately

2687
02:41:46.479 --> 02:41:50.079
two hours before recording the podcast.
I don't care what you end up talking

2688
02:41:50.120 --> 02:41:54.200
about. It will probably be entertaining
regardless, let me know if you're okay

2689
02:41:54.280 --> 02:41:56.920
with this before I risk breaking federal
laws. What do you guys think?

2690
02:41:58.360 --> 02:42:01.520
I think, as your supervisor,
I'm really obligated to say don't do that.

2691
02:42:01.280 --> 02:42:03.520
I mean, I'm not leaving it
up to myself. I'm putting it

2692
02:42:03.600 --> 02:42:07.760
to the group. That's a bad
idea. Yeah, nope, no,

2693
02:42:07.159 --> 02:42:11.120
okay sounds like a resounding no.
Sorry, Chris. I mean, you

2694
02:42:11.200 --> 02:42:16.159
know, HOKEM and Last Tinker play
themselves. I read the frame rate and

2695
02:42:16.200 --> 02:42:26.440
Last Tinker gets real good. Brad
doesn't need mushrooms to laugh at dumb shit.

2696
02:42:26.600 --> 02:42:33.639
That's true, That's very true.
Okay. Andrew from Perth, Australia

2697
02:42:33.719 --> 02:42:37.479
has an email that I will summarize. He basically wants to know what our

2698
02:42:39.159 --> 02:42:41.520
regiment is for appearing on camera?
Do you guys do you guys have a

2699
02:42:41.559 --> 02:42:46.319
makeup crew? I'll yeah, I
know, yes, I'll just read an

2700
02:42:46.360 --> 02:42:48.680
excerpts. Do you guys have a
makeup crew? We all have rough days

2701
02:42:48.719 --> 02:42:50.600
or weeks where our sexiness is not
as on point as usual. Maybe you

2702
02:42:50.719 --> 02:42:54.319
do, but over years of giant
bomb video content, you never look like

2703
02:42:54.559 --> 02:42:58.680
bad well, which is you know
it also maybe kind of a backhanded comment,

2704
02:43:00.399 --> 02:43:01.920
but I mostly bring it up because
like back in the day, we

2705
02:43:03.000 --> 02:43:07.000
totally did have makeup yea, yeah, wow, the spot we were all

2706
02:43:07.079 --> 02:43:09.760
wearing makeup, video reviews, all
that stuff you had, everything had to

2707
02:43:09.799 --> 02:43:13.840
get your all your pat downs going
on. I was wearing makeup like four

2708
02:43:13.879 --> 02:43:16.799
days a week at one point,
it was horrible. Oh yeah. The

2709
02:43:16.879 --> 02:43:18.239
only time I've seen it in the
industry is I used to go on all

2710
02:43:18.280 --> 02:43:22.399
those like cover story trips for Game
Informer, and we always just shot a

2711
02:43:22.440 --> 02:43:24.000
ton of video content, Yeah,
for like a month of content or whatever.

2712
02:43:24.360 --> 02:43:30.239
And the one studio, Epic,
they were obsessive about like they had

2713
02:43:30.280 --> 02:43:33.079
a makeup person on staff, So
we're gonna interview Cliff or Rod or someone's

2714
02:43:33.200 --> 02:43:37.559
bringing the makeup person, name,
lights and everything. Just fucking kidne Cliff,

2715
02:43:37.559 --> 02:43:39.959
if you getting makeup put on everything? Yeah? And Rod, like

2716
02:43:39.200 --> 02:43:43.559
every time, I have no problem
with like wearing makeup to be on camera

2717
02:43:43.719 --> 02:43:46.479
like whatever, it's it's but every
like out of it. Yeah, the

2718
02:43:46.559 --> 02:43:48.280
dozens of studios I've gone to and
everything, and all these like studio heads

2719
02:43:48.319 --> 02:43:52.959
and stuff, like no one has
ever like requested it or certainly not had

2720
02:43:52.000 --> 02:43:56.120
like someone on staff, like Epic
had someone ready for like Cliff or Rod

2721
02:43:56.200 --> 02:43:58.680
to pull up And yeah, sort
of. It's sort of the weird thing

2722
02:43:58.680 --> 02:44:03.360
about I mean, you know,
I think eventually, you know, you

2723
02:44:03.440 --> 02:44:05.680
had to stop wearing it because the
cameras got good enough to where all you

2724
02:44:05.760 --> 02:44:09.360
saw was the makeup, you know, So when when we all went to

2725
02:44:09.520 --> 02:44:13.719
HD. You know, when the
boom deal happened, the bottles HD cameras.

2726
02:44:15.079 --> 02:44:16.319
Then all of a sudden it was
like, okay, well we need

2727
02:44:16.559 --> 02:44:22.879
HD makeup a finer grain that doesn't
get picked up or whatever. And there

2728
02:44:22.920 --> 02:44:26.319
were like really expensive makeups that were
but I mean it reaked havoc across like

2729
02:44:26.399 --> 02:44:33.120
the news industry because suddenly you had
these like you know, older established men

2730
02:44:33.200 --> 02:44:37.159
and women in these newscaster roles that
as all the broadcast shifted the HD,

2731
02:44:37.280 --> 02:44:41.120
all of a sudden, they didn't
they looked, they looked their age and

2732
02:44:41.479 --> 02:44:46.879
and so it caused a lot of
problems there. That's where the that's where

2733
02:44:46.879 --> 02:44:50.319
the cliche came from about like as
HD came about, like you know,

2734
02:44:50.440 --> 02:44:52.920
certain newscasters or celebrities like having it
written into their contract like you can't get

2735
02:44:54.000 --> 02:44:58.120
closer than ten feet with an HD
camera or whatever. Yeah, and so

2736
02:44:58.440 --> 02:45:01.040
at that point, you know,
it was pointless us to wear makeup anymore.

2737
02:45:01.079 --> 02:45:05.079
It just became like a and we
were only wearing like powder. It

2738
02:45:05.120 --> 02:45:07.239
was just knocked down the shine.
It wasn't like okay, let's do our

2739
02:45:07.280 --> 02:45:11.360
eyes and you know, it wasn't
any of that bullshit well, it's not

2740
02:45:11.399 --> 02:45:13.200
bullshit, you know, it's tools
for a reason. Yeah, did you

2741
02:45:13.280 --> 02:45:16.520
want it to do that? I
didn't want any of it. I hated

2742
02:45:16.600 --> 02:45:20.760
it. I was fine with it, you know. It was just one

2743
02:45:20.760 --> 02:45:22.360
of those things where it's like,
Okay, I don't know, this is

2744
02:45:22.479 --> 02:45:26.479
like, we're ostensibly a professional operation. We should do that stuff. So

2745
02:45:26.680 --> 02:45:30.399
Frank Adams should powder, we should
put a bunch of crap on my face?

2746
02:45:30.559 --> 02:45:33.959
Was your makeup? All? Right? Oh? It felt so gross

2747
02:45:33.040 --> 02:45:35.520
though, whatever, man, Frank
Adams touched your face every week, you

2748
02:45:35.559 --> 02:45:37.879
should be fucking No. That was
fine. I don't have a problem with

2749
02:45:37.959 --> 02:45:41.040
that. Yeah, but it just
it it felt weird as because it was.

2750
02:45:41.120 --> 02:45:45.440
It was especially because we had these
like baby wipes that you were supposed

2751
02:45:45.440 --> 02:45:46.600
to get it off with, but
it never really did the job. It's

2752
02:45:46.639 --> 02:45:50.399
like there was a residue on there
for the rest of the day. It

2753
02:45:50.520 --> 02:45:52.799
was. It was a little I've
only had to do it once and it

2754
02:45:52.879 --> 02:45:56.600
was when they scanned me in for
La Nor and they had to paint my

2755
02:45:56.719 --> 02:45:58.799
hair. They put black paint in
my hair and they had to shave my

2756
02:46:00.000 --> 02:46:03.760
beard because they didn't have beards in
like nineteen whatever. But yeah, like

2757
02:46:03.040 --> 02:46:07.159
my hair was just filled with like
glue and paint and it was like it

2758
02:46:07.239 --> 02:46:09.120
was like three hours. I want
to stay in the makeup chair of them.

2759
02:46:09.159 --> 02:46:13.879
It's like going crazy with this stuff. And though you looked really I

2760
02:46:13.959 --> 02:46:16.639
looked at that article. Yeah,
oh yeah, yeah, I mean those

2761
02:46:16.680 --> 02:46:20.600
guys were snappy. Look, they
did a really good job with with all

2762
02:46:20.639 --> 02:46:22.639
the facial stuff in that game for
sure. Yeah, but yeah, that's

2763
02:46:22.639 --> 02:46:26.159
it's paint and the as having all
that shit all over you. Yeah,

2764
02:46:26.239 --> 02:46:28.360
you know, you don't want to
look like a sweaty mess on camera,

2765
02:46:28.479 --> 02:46:31.239
and that's that's what the makeup was
there for, is to make you look

2766
02:46:31.319 --> 02:46:33.959
less shiny and and just look a
little more normal. You know, like

2767
02:46:35.040 --> 02:46:39.040
people are watching TV and things have
changed. I mean back then, you

2768
02:46:39.079 --> 02:46:43.840
know, you didn't have the YouTube
being what it was then, you know,

2769
02:46:43.000 --> 02:46:46.799
so we were looking at the stuff
we were doing on game Spot and

2770
02:46:48.000 --> 02:46:50.280
looking at like television, going like, well it needs to be more like

2771
02:46:50.399 --> 02:46:52.920
this, and then YouTube blew up
and you know, video logs and you

2772
02:46:52.959 --> 02:47:01.040
know, all floggers and like just
the lowest production value possible. Yeah yeah,

2773
02:47:01.600 --> 02:47:03.440
and then everything just looked too real
for real, and then it just

2774
02:47:03.520 --> 02:47:07.200
became like, oh, why did
anyone spend money on building this elaborate studio.

2775
02:47:07.319 --> 02:47:09.719
No one fucking wants this ship anymore
than want it raw. I remember

2776
02:47:09.719 --> 02:47:13.760
when we thought we were gonna have
wardrobe. Yeah, I mean, well

2777
02:47:13.799 --> 02:47:18.879
we did that one fucking uh the
uh whatever live show. We did the

2778
02:47:18.200 --> 02:47:22.799
big location shoot where everything got stolen
Hirohic Glyphics played and empty Chris played.

2779
02:47:24.920 --> 02:47:28.159
We had wardrobe for that. Tim's
wife at the time got us like them

2780
02:47:28.200 --> 02:47:31.600
the track suits and ship like me, Homer and Ryan and what was that

2781
02:47:31.719 --> 02:47:35.159
there was? It wasn't game.
That was a game. No, it

2782
02:47:35.239 --> 02:47:39.319
wasn't going that was the that was
game was Grandma's Boy. There were two

2783
02:47:39.440 --> 02:47:43.440
games, weren't there. No,
the second one was called something else Players

2784
02:47:43.719 --> 02:47:48.479
Players Ball was the last one.
I can't remember the middle one. Fuck,

2785
02:47:48.520 --> 02:47:54.559
I don't know whatever. Yeah,
we had wardrobe for that. There

2786
02:47:54.639 --> 02:47:56.959
was like a like flirting with this
idea of like, let's get a clothing

2787
02:47:58.040 --> 02:48:01.239
sponsor. But I just I remembered
in the office there was for a while

2788
02:48:01.360 --> 02:48:03.600
people were like, all right,
which one of these offices that we're going

2789
02:48:03.680 --> 02:48:07.520
to turn into like the wardrob room. Yeah, you know, I just

2790
02:48:07.639 --> 02:48:09.040
have it all the time. Well, you know it's now look at us,

2791
02:48:09.360 --> 02:48:15.319
Yeah, exactly now it's like the
cut up pair of jean shorts that

2792
02:48:15.360 --> 02:48:16.760
I wore for the Game of the
Year stuff is still sitting on that shelf

2793
02:48:16.840 --> 02:48:22.040
behind our desk. There was the
wardrobe, yeah, with all the like

2794
02:48:22.239 --> 02:48:26.399
there's like a sombrero. And I
think at some point, if you're gonna

2795
02:48:26.399 --> 02:48:28.079
make dumb videos on the internet,
you need a prop's department. Yeah sure,

2796
02:48:28.200 --> 02:48:33.639
and it's a cardboard box full of
garbage. Yeah. But yeah,

2797
02:48:33.680 --> 02:48:35.440
you know, no no makeup,
no special, nothing for us these days.

2798
02:48:35.520 --> 02:48:39.280
But I think that's that's the expectations
of change, and I think that's

2799
02:48:39.319 --> 02:48:43.520
totally normal. So even even though
we spent money on cameras with fancy lenses

2800
02:48:43.559 --> 02:48:46.959
that look all sharp and stuff like, you know, they look how we

2801
02:48:46.040 --> 02:48:50.280
really look, it's kind of nice
that the tech got to that point.

2802
02:48:50.399 --> 02:48:52.600
It's not off the ward you know, you don't forwear that shit anymore.

2803
02:48:52.920 --> 02:48:56.120
Now. I think the only time
I wear makeup is if I'm doing well.

2804
02:48:56.120 --> 02:48:58.760
I don't know if it'll still be
this way because I don't you know,

2805
02:48:58.799 --> 02:49:01.239
they changed owners or whatever. But
like all the game trailers stuff,

2806
02:49:01.239 --> 02:49:03.840
like all all of Keeley's stuff,
was all. They were all makeup shoots,

2807
02:49:03.959 --> 02:49:05.399
all the bonus rounds and all that
stuff, and they had like you

2808
02:49:05.479 --> 02:49:11.360
know Union you know la makeup people
doing that stuff. So they would do

2809
02:49:11.520 --> 02:49:15.639
full on here's some stuff on your
eyes, I'm gonna put some shit in

2810
02:49:15.639 --> 02:49:18.360
your hair, I'm gonna do you
know on those like with like three letter

2811
02:49:18.399 --> 02:49:22.840
acronyms after their name something like that. Yeah, they did it for real

2812
02:49:22.000 --> 02:49:26.319
because they weren't television. Yeah,
they were still close enough to that stuff

2813
02:49:26.360 --> 02:49:30.760
that that it warranted that kind of
treatment. All right, Uh, Tyler

2814
02:49:30.959 --> 02:49:33.559
has well, first of all,
he's been going back and listening to all

2815
02:49:33.760 --> 02:49:39.479
of our old podcasts and he wants
us to know that six years ago,

2816
02:49:41.200 --> 02:49:43.639
he's basically listening to them from the
beginning at the same time we were recording

2817
02:49:43.680 --> 02:49:46.280
them. Does that make sense,
Like just so like six years ago on

2818
02:49:46.360 --> 02:49:48.399
this week, Yeah, all right, he wants us to know. The

2819
02:49:48.479 --> 02:49:54.719
topics discussed were hemp milk, I
remember that, remember the little hippie market

2820
02:49:54.840 --> 02:49:56.719
next to word of the Oh right, yeah, yeah, hemp milk come

2821
02:49:56.719 --> 02:50:03.120
out on your Solid five Halo four
being produced by Gearbox Mortal Kombat. Like

2822
02:50:03.200 --> 02:50:07.360
none of this stuff existed or had
been announced or anything. Yeah. Uh,

2823
02:50:07.559 --> 02:50:13.399
and of Diablo three. That gearbox
stuff seemed like a sound rumor at

2824
02:50:13.440 --> 02:50:16.920
the time too. If I remember
like that, there there was something to

2825
02:50:16.120 --> 02:50:22.200
that that made me believe it more
than a typical rumor. I forget where

2826
02:50:22.280 --> 02:50:26.959
that information came in, but may
kind of make sense because Bungee was getting

2827
02:50:26.000 --> 02:50:31.399
out of the Halo game version and
a bunch of map backs. There was

2828
02:50:31.479 --> 02:50:35.000
something more to it than that.
There was like some specific smoke on the

2829
02:50:35.079 --> 02:50:39.280
street saying like, no, they're
in talks to do it. Maybe they

2830
02:50:39.360 --> 02:50:41.040
were. Maybe they were, so
I actually wouldn't be surprised if they really

2831
02:50:41.040 --> 02:50:48.440
were. Somebody send us anonymous note
anyway. He says on that note,

2832
02:50:48.479 --> 02:50:52.680
I have a question regarding the newest
release of the console version of Diablo three.

2833
02:50:52.719 --> 02:50:56.719
I purchased the original three sixty release
and was hoping it would release the

2834
02:50:56.760 --> 02:51:00.559
expansion as DLC on the marketplace,
but cannot find information if it's existence or

2835
02:51:00.600 --> 02:51:03.559
the lack thereof. My question is
should I buy the retail version. I

2836
02:51:03.680 --> 02:51:07.760
assume he means the Ultimate Evil Edition, which, yeah, they put it

2837
02:51:07.799 --> 02:51:09.520
on, but I want to say
they put it out forty bucks, like

2838
02:51:09.559 --> 02:51:13.319
they put it out at a not
full price, so they did I believe,

2839
02:51:13.399 --> 02:51:16.200
Okay, well that that softened I
think that's how they tried to soften

2840
02:51:16.239 --> 02:51:18.760
it was that softens the blow of
this email because he's saying, yeah,

2841
02:51:18.760 --> 02:51:20.520
should I buy that new retail version
that has the expansion in there or hold

2842
02:51:20.520 --> 02:51:24.239
out for it to be released as
download. I don't think they're releasing it

2843
02:51:24.479 --> 02:51:26.399
download. They definitely haven't given any
indication that they're when they're either talking about

2844
02:51:26.479 --> 02:51:31.120
character transfers that go from that version
to the upgraded to the to the full

2845
02:51:31.239 --> 02:51:33.000
version, so that that's that's the
path there. It's you know, it's

2846
02:51:33.120 --> 02:51:37.239
kind of unfortunate because that last version
only came out a year ago on consoles

2847
02:51:37.479 --> 02:51:39.840
and now here is a new version
with all the new stuff in it.

2848
02:51:41.040 --> 02:51:43.079
Yeah, yeah, it's it's but
at least they reduced the price a little

2849
02:51:43.079 --> 02:51:46.959
bit. But how much was that
expansion when it came out on PC?

2850
02:51:46.120 --> 02:51:52.879
It's like forty bucks, wasn't they? Maybe you're right, I don't know

2851
02:51:52.959 --> 02:51:54.360
that the price disparities. Yeah,
maybe if you're looking at it that way

2852
02:51:54.399 --> 02:51:58.120
this month, But I could be
wrong about it being forty bucks. It

2853
02:51:58.120 --> 02:52:01.079
could be fifty could Yeah, it
could be thirty I don't know, but

2854
02:52:01.120 --> 02:52:03.360
yeah, it doesn't. You know, they've given no indication that that's going

2855
02:52:03.399 --> 02:52:07.120
to come out as a download.
So I guess if you want that new

2856
02:52:07.159 --> 02:52:09.280
stuff, just go get that new
version. That seems like the option.

2857
02:52:11.319 --> 02:52:16.440
All right, Dan, Yeah,
saddle up. Okay, it's time for

2858
02:52:16.479 --> 02:52:22.319
this week's weekly. Asked Dan about
blank email a theme song for this at

2859
02:52:22.360 --> 02:52:33.600
this point. Seriously, this seems
kind of self explanatory, but to refresh

2860
02:52:33.719 --> 02:52:37.079
Dan's memory, one time he was
so drunk he pissed on a stack of

2861
02:52:37.159 --> 02:52:43.479
gifts he bought for his father.
Please favor us with a sort of tail.

2862
02:52:43.600 --> 02:52:48.639
Oh boy, this is one of
my least proud moments. So I

2863
02:52:48.799 --> 02:52:54.280
was home over Christmas break with my
girlfriend at the time, Eva, and

2864
02:52:54.399 --> 02:52:56.639
we were crashing my dad's place.
And whenever I go out with my dad,

2865
02:52:56.760 --> 02:53:01.799
me and him just get blindingly drunk
shitty karaoke bars. So we went

2866
02:53:01.840 --> 02:53:03.719
to the Red Balloon, which is
the karaoke bar and Shawny, Kansas that

2867
02:53:03.799 --> 02:53:07.399
my mom and dad met at.
Wow. Yep, so it was my

2868
02:53:07.520 --> 02:53:09.920
favorite bar once I turned twenty one. So yeah, we went there all

2869
02:53:11.000 --> 02:53:15.840
time, got trashed, just totally
trashed, and I drink a choice.

2870
02:53:16.440 --> 02:53:18.799
He's a jack jack and coke guy, order shitty beer kind of the same

2871
02:53:18.840 --> 02:53:24.559
as me. So we go back. I'm like black out and drunk and

2872
02:53:24.959 --> 02:53:28.639
I fall asleep on the fold out
couch. And my dad is not a

2873
02:53:28.760 --> 02:53:31.559
big tech guy at all, So
basically all of his DVDs and all of

2874
02:53:31.600 --> 02:53:33.840
his games and anything he has are
who were bought over the years by me

2875
02:53:35.280 --> 02:53:39.280
as gifts. This included resume beal
four for the Wii, Mario Kart on

2876
02:53:39.280 --> 02:53:43.760
the Wii, a Johnny Carson DVD
box set, I think an SNL DVD

2877
02:53:43.840 --> 02:53:46.000
of some sort, and since he
doesn't really have a big media collection,

2878
02:53:46.000 --> 02:53:48.799
he just kind of put him on
the floor next to his TV. So

2879
02:53:48.920 --> 02:53:52.360
that night I passed out drunk as
hell. I wake up and Aba,

2880
02:53:52.479 --> 02:53:56.120
my girlfriend at the times says,
do you remember peeing last night? And

2881
02:53:56.239 --> 02:54:00.280
I said no, what are you
talking about? And she goes, you

2882
02:54:00.440 --> 02:54:01.840
just got up in the middle of
the night and walked over and you thought

2883
02:54:01.879 --> 02:54:05.399
the wall was the toilet and you
just started peeing and you had a lot

2884
02:54:05.479 --> 02:54:09.319
of peace. And I was like, no, there's no way. You

2885
02:54:09.399 --> 02:54:11.159
must you must have dreamed that.
I don't do that. What are you

2886
02:54:11.239 --> 02:54:13.479
talking about? And she goes,
no, I didn't know what to do

2887
02:54:13.680 --> 02:54:16.360
because I could tell you were peeing
a lot, and it woke me up,

2888
02:54:16.440 --> 02:54:20.920
like your stream of pea hitting something. And she said all she could

2889
02:54:20.920 --> 02:54:24.079
do is she started yelling at me, like Dan, stop peeing, and

2890
02:54:24.200 --> 02:54:26.239
I would turn around and be like, what what are you talking around?

2891
02:54:26.239 --> 02:54:28.639
I'm on the bathroom, like I
thought. I was like, this is

2892
02:54:28.680 --> 02:54:31.479
not something I would have done in
any conscious way. I thought I was

2893
02:54:31.520 --> 02:54:35.200
in the bathroom, and she said
she just kept yelling stop peeing, and

2894
02:54:35.520 --> 02:54:37.840
I said, no, you clearly
dreamt this like this, and that's absurd.

2895
02:54:37.879 --> 02:54:39.639
I would never do such a thing. And so I walk over there,

2896
02:54:39.840 --> 02:54:45.280
and so it was super obvious.
There's a big peace thing on the

2897
02:54:45.360 --> 02:54:50.319
wall right next to like inches away
from the power socket, like three three

2898
02:54:50.360 --> 02:54:54.319
inches, like a big cascade of
pea obviously went down right next to the

2899
02:54:54.319 --> 02:54:58.520
power socket. But it seems like
ground zero was the stack of gifts I'd

2900
02:54:58.559 --> 02:55:01.600
got him, which we cases for
Mario Kart and RESIDEV. The stuff are

2901
02:55:01.639 --> 02:55:07.520
fine, but the Johnny Carson DVD
box set had a cardboard case which was

2902
02:55:07.600 --> 02:55:11.959
almost disintegrated. You're in his very
acidic you know, Yeah, yeah,

2903
02:55:13.159 --> 02:55:16.079
and there there was a lot.
I drank a lot that night, and

2904
02:55:16.520 --> 02:55:18.520
I think at the time, I'm
thinking like, oh my god, how

2905
02:55:18.600 --> 02:55:20.559
do I say this to my dad? What do I What do I do?

2906
02:55:22.120 --> 02:55:24.360
And he was sitting out front,
because this first thing he does every

2907
02:55:24.399 --> 02:55:26.959
morning is he goes out front his
pajama pants and funk cigarette and plays words

2908
02:55:26.959 --> 02:55:30.040
with friends. And so he's out
there and I'm just like, oh shit,

2909
02:55:30.079 --> 02:55:31.159
I have to tell him. I
can't just not tell him. I

2910
02:55:31.520 --> 02:55:33.600
mean, I'll replace it, I'll
clean it or whatever. So like I'm

2911
02:55:33.760 --> 02:55:37.440
like cleaning it up, like and
like pulling out like the liner, and

2912
02:55:37.520 --> 02:55:39.239
it's like, oh, just everything's
just covering, like just the whole floor

2913
02:55:39.360 --> 02:55:43.639
and Wallard's covering p carpeted. That's
not going away his carpet. Oh,

2914
02:55:43.719 --> 02:55:48.079
no, carpet. I go out
there. I sit down on the step

2915
02:55:48.120 --> 02:55:50.520
next to my dad and I was
like, Dad, I got something I

2916
02:55:50.559 --> 02:55:54.159
gotta tell you. And he immediately
senses because we never get like I have

2917
02:55:54.280 --> 02:55:56.239
serious talks or anything. It's like, but I had like a grave tone

2918
02:55:56.280 --> 02:55:58.360
to my voice, feel like I
gotta tell you Something's like, what what

2919
02:55:58.399 --> 02:56:03.840
happened? What happen? And it's
like, I guess at some point and

2920
02:56:03.920 --> 02:56:05.600
evidence points of this being true.
Aba tells me that I got up in

2921
02:56:05.600 --> 02:56:09.079
the middle of the night and I
peed all over your stack of DVDs in

2922
02:56:09.239 --> 02:56:11.600
games and he's like, no,
you didn't. And I was like,

2923
02:56:11.799 --> 02:56:15.879
yeah, I just checked and I
definitely did. He's like, no,

2924
02:56:16.079 --> 02:56:18.520
no, you didn't. And like
he has this great defense mechanism too.

2925
02:56:20.000 --> 02:56:22.360
If he doesn't understand something, or
if he doesn't like something, he can

2926
02:56:22.440 --> 02:56:26.399
convince himself that it doesn't exist or
it didn't happen. It's called denial.

2927
02:56:26.600 --> 02:56:28.319
Yeah. Yeah, Like remember the
first time I showed him Hulu and I

2928
02:56:28.399 --> 02:56:31.319
was like, yeah, I don't
have cable. I just watch all the

2929
02:56:31.680 --> 02:56:33.040
I watched Daily Show on the internet. He's like, you can't do that.

2930
02:56:33.360 --> 02:56:35.840
I was like, well, yeah, watch, I'll que it up

2931
02:56:35.840 --> 02:56:37.920
and I'm like pull up an episode
of the Daily Show and I'm watching the

2932
02:56:37.920 --> 02:56:39.399
whole episode. You can't do that. That doesn't you can't do that.

2933
02:56:39.879 --> 02:56:43.079
And so like in his brain,
Hulu doesn't exist, and like that's if

2934
02:56:43.120 --> 02:56:45.920
it's just too much for him to
process. It's like, no, no,

2935
02:56:46.079 --> 02:56:48.719
that's not a thing that happens.
You can't do it. So that

2936
02:56:48.879 --> 02:56:50.559
was his thing. He's like,
Dan, I need you to just go

2937
02:56:50.680 --> 02:56:54.239
in there, do whatever you can
to clean it up. And I'm gonna

2938
02:56:54.239 --> 02:56:56.760
sit out here and I'm gonna get
my brain to figure out, like the

2939
02:56:56.200 --> 02:57:01.079
convince it that it never happened.
It never happened. It's like okay,

2940
02:57:01.239 --> 02:57:05.319
okay, so yeah, I think
in his brain that that never happened.

2941
02:57:05.079 --> 02:57:09.120
Okay, So but I cleaned it
up real good, offered to replace everything.

2942
02:57:09.200 --> 02:57:13.319
So but in Paul Record's brain,
that did not happen. Huh,

2943
02:57:13.520 --> 02:57:18.040
what do you do? Like did
you call carpet cleaning service? I mean,

2944
02:57:18.200 --> 02:57:20.920
it was like I drink so much. It's probably mostly water, I

2945
02:57:22.040 --> 02:57:24.479
guess. I mean, like you
know, when you drink so much,

2946
02:57:24.559 --> 02:57:28.239
it's just like straight clear or whatever. And like, man, and if

2947
02:57:28.280 --> 02:57:28.879
it was a kind of pea that
I had to piece so bad that I

2948
02:57:28.959 --> 02:57:33.000
woke up and had to go man
that, yeah it was. It was

2949
02:57:33.040 --> 02:57:41.280
bad news for those DVDs and especially
mister Carson. Wow. Yeah. Yeah.

2950
02:57:41.239 --> 02:57:45.479
On that note, Yeah, I
know people that have done that.

2951
02:57:45.719 --> 02:57:48.360
And of course this is gonna sound
like it's me but it's not. But

2952
02:57:48.399 --> 02:57:52.120
definitely I definitely know people who have
done that. Yeah, there have been

2953
02:57:52.120 --> 02:57:54.879
three occasions in my life, and
all that are oh, you're a serial

2954
02:57:54.920 --> 02:57:56.440
offender. Huh? Just three?
I mean these are spread out like one

2955
02:57:56.520 --> 02:58:00.239
was in the dorms in college,
one was that like two thousand nine in

2956
02:58:00.360 --> 02:58:05.360
my dad's place, and one was
like four months ago. But to be

2957
02:58:05.440 --> 02:58:07.879
fair, can I briefly tell the
one from four months ago? Please?

2958
02:58:07.079 --> 02:58:11.079
Okay? Surely it was probably more
frequent than that, because I was having

2959
02:58:11.159 --> 02:58:13.680
kind of my round of going away
type parties and stuff in Minnesota, and

2960
02:58:13.840 --> 02:58:16.840
so Tim Tory, who was on
UPF he visited here not too long ago.

2961
02:58:16.879 --> 02:58:22.200
He was crashing on my couch and
I was super confused because, yeah,

2962
02:58:22.200 --> 02:58:24.159
it was one of those parties where
I was going away, you know,

2963
02:58:24.280 --> 02:58:26.159
last for I get real drunk or
whatever. And I woke up because

2964
02:58:26.159 --> 02:58:28.760
I had a big ass L shaped
couch and he was on the long end

2965
02:58:28.799 --> 02:58:31.479
of it. And I woke up
and my underpants on the other side of

2966
02:58:31.559 --> 02:58:35.040
it. And that's weird because like, I sleep my underpants usually, but

2967
02:58:35.040 --> 02:58:37.840
I'm always in my own goddamn bad
especially when I got company over running around

2968
02:58:37.840 --> 02:58:41.000
in my underpants. And I asked
him the next day at a game four,

2969
02:58:41.040 --> 02:58:43.719
I was like, what was going
on. Why would I Why did

2970
02:58:43.760 --> 02:58:46.959
I wake up? And my underpants
on the couch, and he's like Dan.

2971
02:58:48.399 --> 02:58:52.079
Last thing I remember seeing of you
was you went into your room,

2972
02:58:52.159 --> 02:58:54.000
fully clothed everything, and you just
passed out. I just heard you fall

2973
02:58:54.000 --> 02:58:56.760
in the bed fall asleep. I
woke up at seven o'clock in the morning.

2974
02:58:58.079 --> 02:59:03.000
You were in your underpants up on
your sink, like up my like

2975
02:59:03.280 --> 02:59:05.399
I wasn't on the floor. I
was like perched up holding the cabinets above

2976
02:59:05.440 --> 02:59:07.920
the sink with my knees like in
the sink, peeing into the sink,

2977
02:59:09.280 --> 02:59:13.120
and like my bathroom and that's farther
from my bedroom than my bathroom whatever,

2978
02:59:13.200 --> 02:59:16.959
And I had dishes in the sink. Why the fuck am I paying in

2979
02:59:16.040 --> 02:59:20.399
my own sink? The funk am
I doing? Because you can because you're

2980
02:59:20.479 --> 02:59:22.440
leaving, And fuck it, I'm
peeing on my own dishes that I'm bringing

2981
02:59:22.559 --> 02:59:26.799
with me. Like that was disgusting. People you wash your dishes. You

2982
02:59:26.879 --> 02:59:31.959
said you hated to wash the dishes. I don't know, so that proves

2983
02:59:31.000 --> 02:59:35.079
me. It's just obviously an unconscious
thing where it's like I don't want to

2984
02:59:35.200 --> 02:59:37.440
pee in my sink on my dishes, So that was number three. That

2985
02:59:37.520 --> 02:59:41.840
was the last time. Oh boy, M I had a friend in college

2986
02:59:41.840 --> 02:59:46.319
who was staying with his girlfriend and
had a similar situation and walked into her

2987
02:59:46.399 --> 02:59:50.040
roommate's room in the middle of the
night and just started peeing on her bed

2988
02:59:50.959 --> 02:59:52.920
with her in it. I can't
remember if she was there or not,

2989
02:59:52.079 --> 02:59:58.200
Okay, I do remember that he
really didn't like her fair enough. I

2990
02:59:58.239 --> 03:00:01.639
remember I used to go to the
Boys and Girls Club at every day in

2991
03:00:01.719 --> 03:00:05.639
the summer for a couple of years
there. My mom would drop me off

2992
03:00:05.680 --> 03:00:07.440
there and I would hang out and
play defender, and you know, it

2993
03:00:07.520 --> 03:00:11.239
was just like a bunch of hoodlum
kids and you know, their pool table

2994
03:00:11.280 --> 03:00:13.840
and basketball and just a bunch of
bullshit. Remember one day, me and

2995
03:00:13.920 --> 03:00:16.639
this other kid got in our heads
that we were gonna make another kid drink

2996
03:00:16.719 --> 03:00:22.440
pea. So we went and bought
a Country Time lemonade out of the vending

2997
03:00:22.479 --> 03:00:26.760
machine, drank about half of it, filled it back up, oh,

2998
03:00:28.159 --> 03:00:31.159
and then tried to like get a
pen or a coat hanger some way to

2999
03:00:31.239 --> 03:00:35.799
like close the top on it again
so it wouldn't be obvious that we had

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opened it. Did you drink p
Yeah? Jesus christ. It's a good

3001
03:00:45.079 --> 03:00:52.799
one. Hey, Jeff, yep, I want you tell them about our

3002
03:00:52.799 --> 03:00:58.760
new sponsors. All right, Yeah, that's uh yeah, it's un you

3003
03:00:58.920 --> 03:01:03.239
have you you have earned this,
so yeah, we we have. We

3004
03:01:03.360 --> 03:01:07.319
have signed up with a an exciting
new deal with a company called the mid

3005
03:01:07.440 --> 03:01:11.879
Role and they do podcast advertising.
So we're gonna seal you know, the

3006
03:01:11.120 --> 03:01:16.440
ideas, will see some more variety
from our podcast sponsors and all that sort

3007
03:01:16.479 --> 03:01:18.319
of stuff. They've they've been out
there kind of representing us. They represent

3008
03:01:18.680 --> 03:01:22.959
you know, a bunch other huge
podcasts. It's great. We're we're in

3009
03:01:22.840 --> 03:01:26.479
I feel like we're in this upper
echelon. Man, we're out there.

3010
03:01:26.600 --> 03:01:30.000
This podcast. It's a big deal. You can't go anywhere for this stuff

3011
03:01:30.319 --> 03:01:31.760
anyway. As a result of us
signing up for this stuff, they want

3012
03:01:31.760 --> 03:01:35.239
to know more about the people to
listen to the podcast. So uh,

3013
03:01:35.719 --> 03:01:39.040
they have set up a survey on
the internet, and we'd appreciate it if

3014
03:01:39.040 --> 03:01:46.040
people wouldn't check it out. It's
a podsurvey dot com slash bomb and if

3015
03:01:46.360 --> 03:01:48.440
you know some some percentage of you
could go over there and fill out the

3016
03:01:48.479 --> 03:01:50.959
survey. I think it's one of
those things where you can win. If

3017
03:01:50.959 --> 03:01:54.879
you've given the email address, you
might win something like a hundred dollar Amazon

3018
03:01:54.920 --> 03:01:58.479
gift card. Okay, yeah,
you'd be entered into winning a one hundred

3019
03:01:58.479 --> 03:02:01.079
dollar Amazon gift card. So if
you do it and no one else does,

3020
03:02:01.120 --> 03:02:05.200
then you automatically win. So I
hope that you're the one. But

3021
03:02:05.239 --> 03:02:05.959
yeah, it would be great if
you could do that. They you know,

3022
03:02:07.000 --> 03:02:09.000
it's one of the things they want
to know more about the people to

3023
03:02:09.040 --> 03:02:11.319
listen to the podcast. When they
go out there and tell people about us.

3024
03:02:11.559 --> 03:02:15.879
They've got a complete picture of of
the people who listen and stuff.

3025
03:02:15.920 --> 03:02:20.319
So, uh, we would appreciate
it. It's pod survey, dot com,

3026
03:02:20.680 --> 03:02:24.040
slash bomb yep, yeah, that's
the one. That's the one.

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03:02:24.079 --> 03:02:26.120
All right, Well, thank you. Yeah. And on that note,

3028
03:02:26.440 --> 03:02:30.159
I guess that's gonna do it for
the podcast. I'm still a little bit

3029
03:02:30.159 --> 03:02:33.879
disturbed. I'm gonna go wash my
hands right. No, I didn't do

3030
03:02:33.959 --> 03:02:35.840
anything. I just feel like I
need to wash. I feel like I

3031
03:02:37.159 --> 03:02:41.559
just feel like it's vague aroma of
p It's sterile in this studio in staid

3032
03:02:41.559 --> 03:02:46.799
you could drink it. I'm gonna
go home and wash my everything. Thanks

3033
03:02:46.840 --> 03:03:03.399
for listening. We'll be back next
week. What sorry, ed fire,

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farce, fire vice, fire BCE,