I think it's learning. I'll put up for a music. Two music's now
the comment Yeah, it's like the remit the dance or see it's not playing
so you don't hear it. Well you got both of them going now it's
just now, it's just the all right, all right, greater side.
Hey, everybody, welcome to Challenge the podcast all about the Challenge. Yeah,
I don't know, fuck overside and there's a stupid online soundboard. Hey
everybody, Uh, as always, I'm Brian sitting in his bedroom with his
kid trapped in his closet. Is big uncle sweet and living in a house
with eight different roommates apparently at one point. Yeah, but that was like
twenty years ago. Carlin San Diego and working a twelve hour overnight shift to
this weekend vacuum Bananas, Good Times header challengepot dot com. You can join
the Facebook group. You can also join our online fantasy league we got going
on. Yep. It's already started though, so I don't know, but
people still have the chance. There were a few people who didn't put in
uh scores for this week, and who knows, maybe if you picked the
right combo of people for the next eleven weeks, you will kick the shit
out of everybody. Can you Can you still join? Yeah, it's not
like a closed league or something. Okay, it's it's actually really cool.
We've got I'm trying to figure out how many players have actually signed up.
It looks like over thirty. So we have thirty four people in the public
league, but one of those is the geek notary account, which didn't actually
do anything. So really we have thirty three people, including the four of
us in it and for the and just the four of us for the host
podect host one, which makes sense. I love some of these team names
in our public league. Have you guys seen these? Yeah, Nanny's noodles,
no letters, hope to see you never. I mean I was hoping
to get some good team names. Have you guys yesterday and you'll just give
me your names? Yeah, we have to do we have to do identifiable
stuff so people know which one of us it is. I don't know.
I wanted to be hand jobs and boob jobs, but you know, you
guys are all boring, so I went boring too. Hey, you could
have still gotten not boring. Don't blame me on No no hand jobs,
no boob jobs on me man, and technically I did something slightly different.
I went with Carlin's San Diago. That is true. And also I also
found out that apparently several of my female friends have told me that they think
Avery's boobs are real, so the name went. I agree. I think
her boobs are real. I think she's Apparently they sag, so you can
tell their you can, you can google them. They are not real.
You can look at them for half a second, They're like, clearly that
real. Well, so there are these there are. The reason I think
that they are real is because some of her pictures she doesn't have pig poves,
and others she does. So I'm like ninety five percent sure that she's
got one of those Victoria's Secret braws that ups your cup size by three sizes.
It's basically like two and a half inches of padding around the bottom,
like the bottom crescent, so it pushes everything up towards the center. Those
came out years ago, and it looks like there's some pretty consistent I've seen
them without a bra look pretty fake to me. I don't know. That's
that's fine, no judgment. I didn't notice. But when I when I
brought it up. I was told by females like, no, look,
they're sagging like in her in her shirt. I mean, I guess I
have to just assume that women know better than me. But man, I
don't know. Sorry, I'm reading the chat from the league. Apparently we
had someone paid twenty five dollars for a yearly subscription, Yeah, to get
ad free. Gotcha. Yeah, you definitely didn't need to U It's just
a free thing app Sorry to that person, Sorry Christmas. But the good
thing came out as we found out that the person that runs that app slash
website is both in our league and in our Facebook group. Oh no shit,
wow yeah yeah, which is kind of spectacular. Peter, Peter,
I have a nephew named Peter. Peter. Cindy says bras make a huge
difference, and huge differences in all capitals. Yeah, yep, they can
make a massive, massive, massive difference. Is joker saying, Oh,
Carlin, like your naive about the boob job thing. What's he saying?
I've got boob So no, that's like you're you're the authority. I have
to just listen to you. But man, they don't look rend the me.
No, I assume that they were fake as well. I mean there's
a good chance that they are, and that she's just got a boob job
that's not massive, like what a lot of the women end up getting after
being on TV for a little while. But who knows. I still think
she's super hot, so it doesn't matter. There are a lot there are
a lot of players that look really great, which why don't we just get
into it and we can start. Let's get into it this episode one guys
All Stars four. Hey, it's good to be back for All Stars,
right. Better, it's like a better show than the n TV one by
five. Well, it's it's better because I was like, oh fuck,
I got to go home tonight and watch two episodes of the Challenge. Why
why do why do they put two episodes up? And then I realized,
oh wait, the two episodes that are up equal one episode that we usually
cover. So it's okay. But the and the pace is fast, and
it's like fun. It's like it's back to being fun. You know.
There is something. There is something with All Stars. All of the seasons
so good, like the players that are there, the games that they're playing,
the pacing of the episodes, everything. TJ's acting like an asshole,
which is just fantastic, like asshole in a good way. God, the
All Star seasons are so much better. Steven says, TJ looks so happy,
Yes he did. He like interacts with them in a different, like
a more friendly, laid back way, like TJ is different and these I
don't know it just Easley says the music agreed that music was every song is
fantastic. Yeah, do we know where are we expecting to have two episodes
every week or was this just a one off? I think it's just a
one off. I think all the rest of them are going to be one
episode at a time. All right, well, this episode we start off
in Cape Town, South Africa. I love when they give like historical context
of the challenge. They did it right away here and flashbacks to like now
it's our necklace and like these classic things. Yeah, that was the mobile
Sidekick flipping open and shit, it was like, oh, just nostalgia.
It was not on top of it, sir, that's all right. I
was into this. I was into that. We also get a super fun
intro of like the seventies era, with like the weird cuts and like the
weird fonts and stuff given all these players different cool names. Whichies nineties?
Oh god, you mean like the seventies seventies TV show intro? Yeah,
yeah, talking about the flashback, this was one of my favorite intros ever,
Like I like fun, Yes, it was really fun and yeah,
interactive and engaging, yes, But the group is walking through a winery.
They're all kind of like merging together and finding TJ. I don't know whatever
kind of did anyone else notice? I think that might be the same winery
from the final years ago. I think it was one of the ex'es seasons
where they're running through the winery to go pick up wine barrels and run them
back to the beginning. And I think it was. I remember that was
like they did an overview shot. I was like, this looks very very
familiar. I mean maybe every winery looks the same, and that one was
in like Argentina. But I immediately thought, like, I feel like we
Stephens Stephen says Rivals three. It was the last challenge before the final Yeah,
so then that's what. Yeah, I think that was it because it
looked very familiar. Yeah, I don't remember. I remember the Wine Challenge.
I don't know. I just don't remember where what country they were in.
Uh. TJ rides up though on a BMX. Not quite as cool
as like a tank or other fucking ship we've seen. BMX is what he's
known for, old school. It's his it's his sport. I love it.
We're in a sweet shirt. I like DJ's shirts and these. It
makes in general, like pull off a TJ style shirt. You think I
could do it, I pulled off. I'll try it. We're getting into
that weather. Uh So this is TJ goes around. It kind of points
out like different challenges, kind of giving them props. All that ship starts
off with Cam and Leroy talking about Kingston. This is great, right,
we've seen them from when they met to not having a baby. Yeah.
I really liked this whole thing because, like you, you got to see
TJ be a real person and not just be a host. Yeah, and
like show that these are the cast members are also real people and have lives
outside of this and like some of them he talks to and yeah, it's
fun. I don't like that. I want the TJ. I like it
for Leroy, but that was about I want I want the TJ. That
if somebody's like I can't finish, He's like, heck shit, get out
of here. Hope to see you never. Yeah, what did I see
it? This season? I also like the TJ that's like that knows these
people and are just treating him like friends. And I like the dynamic.
Oh, hard ass TJ. That's what I want. I guess I like
hard ass TJ with people who don't feel like he should be familiar with.
These are people like I feel like he should be familiar with and he should
be friendly with. I still want him to be a hard ass if any
of them quit or pullshit. But I was okay with it in this scene.
But if it's any of the movies, TJ better not be acting with
that. I just like that. Everybody seems like they're having fun too.
Yeah, like Leroy and Cam they're having fun. In their confessionals Tony,
the first thing we hear him say is set your clocks back. It's Tony
time. And he says if he wins, the first thing he's gonna do
is pay his taxes. Like they're just sort of like they're just sort of
fucking around, like having a good time. I love it, Yeah,
I do. Too. Uh, we see Flora and kefla been forever since
we've seen these guys. Yeah, has any memories of Flora or Kevla Nope?
But apparently Keflo was the very first winner of the challenge. It was
a team A team winner. Yeah, still no memory whatsoever. I mean,
I can't marry anything they did. But like when Flora was announced her
season, I'm like, I recognize the name, but I don't recognize her
at all. And as soon as I saw her little like old school picture,
I'm like, oh, yes, I do remember her. So I
was excited to see her back. She's funny, She's a little firecracker.
I like her. She's just got like tons of personality. Zach, was
it you or was it someone else who posted up that she was the one
who crawled through the window to spy on the threesome? That was someone else?
Okay? Yeah, yeah, I also don't remember that. Was that
the threesome between Abram and whoever else? Veronica and Rachel could have been?
This is the Miami Real World season? Yeah, okay, okay, I
thought that they meant that that happened on the show on the Challenge Okay,
so real quickly we learned Nicole is going to be a lieutenant in the fire
department. Obviously, Laurel is still completely hung up on her. You can
tell because she claims she's not so many times, so many times in the
last in these two episodes, did she claim that she was not hung up
on her? The more many times, the more often you say it,
the less I believe it. Yes, she's very forceful. I do not
care. I'm over it. It's in the past, okay, Laura.
Yeah, sure, And I mean some of it may have been edited,
but god, the tension in these two episodes. Yeah, it's great.
It's great. Rachel's back. She's got three kids, she owns a gym
rat, she's being of people who look fucking great. Kara she's also back.
Yeah, Kara does look great, looks great. She seems like she
has a good attitude. She says she's found her glow again. Do you
guys, do you guys buy it? Sure? Polly's not here, Kyle.
Oh, we can get to the Kyle shit later, right, Zachie
Bananas, we can. I have I still love it back, and that
much about it. You got till the end of the show to look it
up. Yep, all right. This is when TJ tells us that this
is an individual game. There will be only one winner. That winner will
walk away with two hundred and fifty thousand. The rest of the players who
finished the final across the line will split fifty thousand, which is kind of
interesting. I wonder how big of a final this is going to be.
Should be one winner, one person gets money, everybody else go home empty
handed. See, And I feel like, I don't remember if I've said
this or if it's been set by other people, but I like the one
winner thing. But at the same time, it I feel like it ends
up we end up with people who just kind of quit in the final because
then they don't have to do anything because they're not going to win anything.
But I like this where they're at least going for a little bit of money,
where Like they have the incentive of they might be the only one getting
that fifty thousand dollars or they might be splitting it with who knows seven people,
but at least they're going home with something, and it's just it's kind
of fun to have them try a little bit more. Yeah, you see,
I feel like it causes the opposite problem where it's like, oh,
well, I'm gonna get money no matter what. So then people don't.
Yeah, but they have to finish. They have to actually cross the finish
line. If there's only one winner, in the moment that winner crosses the
finish line, no one else has to. Still he dropped the abbots,
still carling. Sorry, I know I heard. Yeah. All right,
so we're back at the house now right away. Leroy says like, yeah,
I retired two weeks ago. I'm a different man. I need the
money for my family now. So I'm back two years, not weeks,
but I said weeks. Two weeks. Sorry, two years. It feels
like two weeks. I mean, at least he had addressed it. Yeah,
you know what, I'm fine with that now. I've totally forgiven me
a little just a little recognition that it's a little fucking weird to, you
know, retire for two years and then just keep coming back. Steven says,
apparently Cam was offered a spot and fought for Leroy to beyond. I
can see that, oh, I could see. And she's fought for him
a lot in these two episodes. Really been a need to They seem like
the best couple ever right, Like they're just so supportive of each other.
Okay they I mean, granted, we're not seeing a whole lot of it,
but they seem like a very healthy partnership. Yeah, which is kind
of fun to see. They talk about they talk about in one I don't
remember which episode it was, but they're just like, yeah, we're parents.
Sometimes we're just like, I can't fucking stand being around you, but
I'm not gonna leave. And I'm like, yeah, I get that,
Jasmine. We learned how to divorce BEFD. I really appreciated when they when
it came time to like do the cheers, you know, Kefla. It
was Kefla who was clearly just like a little older and doesn't know these people,
and so his toast was too friends, friendship and all that, which
I thought was really so, can we talk real quick about My least favorite
part of this character introduction thing is when did Tyree change his spelling? Because
that was okay, the entire shirt I didn't pay attention to that. Did
the was his name actually spelled differently on his shirt? They dropped the e
they did on his shirt every time it said his name at the bottom of
the screen. Whatever. Well, because his Instagram I think is Terran and
I don't know if that's his full name and Tyree was just a nickname.
Probably I don't know, but I know I have him on Facebook and he
still has Tyree with an E on his Facebook name. I wonder why.
Maybe they were just given uh, you know, a limited amount of letters
on the shirts and they just ran out. Maybe maybe some poor intern lost
their job over it. Okay, so his hist is Tyrant. It's ty
Rant. I think he's trying to do it lay onwards there, but yeah,
it's uh, Tyree is t y r i E. M oh Ainsley
in the chat room says, I heard his name is Tyree no e.
But he rolled with Tyree with an E for a long time and realized once
FESSI became Fessal that he could speak up and say something. All right,
Wait, so MTV has had it wrong this entire time, and he's even
got it spelled incorrectly on his own Instagram. He just rolled with it.
He's like, all right, I guess, I guess there's an email if
you're a public figure, you know, even if it doesn't have an E.
I can see him rolling with it. Because he's like, well,
that's what people are gonna be looking for when they search me. Yeah,
a lot of people do that. They go with an easier like Tory deal.
Her last name is not spelled that way. She went with it because
it's like a phonetic spelling of a more complicated last name. It's like,
people, there's a Reddit post about Tyree versus Tyree. Oh, well,
that's definitely gonna have the right information, right, It's always accurate. Nope.
Steven pointed out something I wanted to talk about, which was when they
showed Tyree's daughter, we see that his daughter's middle name is dim. Yeah,
that's fantastic. I heard that they were actually like fairly close, and
we never really got to see that on the show or anything, but I've
heard that they were like kind of fairly close off the show. Anyway,
back to the show, we get Jay, Tony, and Steve. They're
all on the balcony. They're talking about the drinking incident. We learned now
that Jay has not practiced eating. He has some sort of shitty excuse for
why he hasn't practiced, but says this is his redemption season. I mean,
but can you really practice for eating, Like, are you gonna go
out? I mean, I guess you could, but are you really going
to go out and buy a bunch of like brains and shit and eat that
in your own home? You know if if well, a million dollars is
not on the line here, if two hundred and fifty thousand dollars on the
line, I would I would do that? Would you? If you,
I mean, Zach, you are a bad eater? Would you do this?
Yeah? Train No, I'm with kam J. Like you know,
like you can have me like eating raw eggs rather weird food all day,
but if they put ketchup in front of me, I'm not gonna be like,
oh and now I can eat this because I had those other weird things.
You'd have to get over your ketchup shit. Man. I like that
raw part is where you went with Like the most disgusting thing I could think
of is raw eggs. Weird and gross things? Could I get here at
home that like I could practice them if it was raw eggs. Everybody on
the challenge would be like, oh, yeah, no problem, boooo right
out. And I'm I'm going to push back on that, Zach. I
do think that by like desensitizing yourself to some foods, it will help desensitize
to other foods. I really do. If you get used to chewing on
brains, I think you could eat a ball pretty easily. Yeah, and
you could. I mean those are things that you could go and find.
You could go to a butcher's shop and have all of those things, Like
opals are the whole spectrum of things you can get. Yeah, most of
the time it's in a fancy restaurant and it's cooked with some special spices and
taste great. But good to your butcher's shop and buy you some snout.
Yeah. We learned next episode that they have Leroy practices brain stuff on the
off season. I don't think the eating stuff is much different. Like if
you if you suck at something, you should work at it. Yeah.
I don't know. I feel like, of all of the things to practice,
I feel like the eating is the one thing that I wouldn't imagine anyone
to actually practice, except for Turbo, who practiced in the house by eating
his weight and eggs. Yeah. We have a reunion of Tina, Veronica
and Rachel, which is nice, like an old school mean girls style reunion.
Yeah again, Tons of flashbacks of the times we've seen the three of
them, including that threesome scene that you mentioned earlier. Cron Good Times,
Good Times. Flora says Ayana has beautiful boobies. Yeah, but she says
it in a weird way. She says, do you consent for me to
say that you have beautiful boobs and a beautiful body? And it was a
yeah, okay, but you didn't actually let her say yes or no.
You just said, like, I don't understand this phrasing. I think you
think you're trying to do something and you're not doing You're doing it wrong.
No, I don't consent. It was it was an awkward way to say
it, and it just stuck out to me. That's my one chance that
She's like, as long as it's sincere, which I appreciated that that response
to it, but it was still just it was weird. Yeah. Well,
speaking of beautiful bodies, Cam talks about hers. She's a new wish
mom, heavier the last time we saw our c section stuff. She's not
sure, of course she does. She's not sure if her bodies can do
what it did a few years ago on the challenge. So she's gonna find
out. She says, yeah, I'm amazed that she came on the challenge
so soon after having a C section, let alone having a kid, Like,
yeah, more power to you, mama. Yeah, I wonder where
the kid is. By the way, both parents are away for so she
said something about how she's still pumping and sending milk back, so she they
cannot be like overnighting milk from I wouldn't think that they would be overnighting milk
from South Africa to the US. So I really, I really do wonder
if they got a like full time annie or a family member or something like
that to fly to South Africa and have them have them there with Kingston while
both mom and dad are on the show. Yeah, it's a good point.
Yeah, Kingston's just at a hotel right off base or something. Yeah,
because I was thinking that exact same thing, like how on earth is
she pumping and getting this back to him? Because that's what she made it
sound like. Yeah. Well, now we learn that Tyree thinks he has
it in the bag this season because he's got the stamina, he's got martial
arts, he apparently knows jiu jitsu, so he is convinced he has it
in the bag. The moment that Tyree said that, I immediate thought you're
going home today. Yeah, me too, instantly to instantly. This is
why I picked him for my draft. I didn't pick up on that like
you three did because you thought he was going home. That's why you picked
him for your draft. No, because he's got the Stamini, he's got
the martial arts. It's been a physical trainer for however long. He's got
the season in the back. This is the first time we hear Adam talk.
I fucking hate Adam. Do you guys fucking hate Adam. I don't
know who he is. I I don't know who he is either. He's
someone that has him on my draft. You know, I love Adam.
I think he's one of those guys we've we've talked about on the show,
but it's been years. We're like, you know, sometimes you just introduce
somebody and you just don't like them, and there's no reason. You can't
figure out why. It's just something about him is wrong to you. That's
how Adam is to me. I got it as a like he was saying,
you know, Adam one point oh, Adam, two point oh,
Adam three point zero, and when he was talking about Adam three point oh,
I got an immediate hit of like, oh, you are a sad
person. There's something that's happened in your life and you were a sad person,
Like, yeah, you're here because you're just sad. Like I felt,
I legitimately, like my whole body was like I feel bad for you,
Like are you okay? He said something weird like he almost didn't get
out of three point zero or something like that. There was some there was
something in the way that he was saying it that I legitimately was like,
Oh my heart goes out. Are you are you? You feel like you
should be in therapy and not here. Yeah. So I don't know what
went on, but well, he does say that his superpower this season is
developing relationships, so we'll see about that one. But I hate this fucking
guy so far. I hope he goes home. All right. We see
Janelle and Nicole. They're sitting and talking. They're connecting over being first responders,
which I don't know. I guess you're just connecting over whatever you can
find. But this is when you know it's a jobs. It's a job
thing. If you were on a show like this and you're like, hey,
I work for a magazine too, and I do coding and whatever whatever
you do. You know you would be like oh shit, and you would
sit and talk to them. Yeah. Yeah, don't act like you wouldn't.
I My my response to it was more of but Janelle is a surgical
nurse and Nicole is a firefighter. I mean, I guess surgical nurse could
be a first responder. I just don't think of surgical nurse as being a
first responder. I think there's an E M. T or police officer or
firefighter. I think the right comp's wrong. But no, I think you're
right, because we'll feel That's what I was gonna say, is that ye
like I work in it. It would be like somebody said, like I
work, you know, on hardware databases. It's like, okay, our
jobs overlap about this much. I don't know much about what you're doing it,
Like, I guess we can talk about it, just don't know.
I'm not saying that I wouldn't do the exact same thing that they that she
did, because I most definitely would. Like if you're job even remotely overlaps
with whatever I do, then it's some sort of look that you look for
the connections. Yeah. Another analogy if you were if you were on a
show with someone and they're like, oh, dude, I host a podcast
about Big Brother. Tim would be like, oh okay, like you can
talk about this. You look for That's what I said. You look for
the connections, like wherever you can find them. This one seems a little
tenuous to me, but whatever, Yeah, but I mean it. Honestly,
this feels like if someone came on to the show and said, oh,
yeah, I hosted a podcast about Big Brother and say, okay,
cool, I host what about the challenge? You'd have you have some connection
because a lot of firefighters are E M T s as well, so they
get that that bit. Like I get it. It's just there was something
about like the surgical nurse and the and the firefighter thing that felt a little
odd to me. Yeah, but this is where we learned Janelle does not
like Ayana. Yeah, doesn't try to hide it's just a lot this episode.
I like it because I don't think I would like her either. I
think she's a lot. She's much to deal with in real life. And
you guys, you guys were giving me ship when I said that I didn't
like Iana last week. Yeah, these next, these two episodes, I
saw a different side of I don't think I think I ate the salad.
Maybe I forgot I think you forgot this is what it was. Or maybe
it's a less entertaining version this season than it's been in the past. This
is the same crazy Ayana that told Jody that she ate her salad because she
wanted to feel rich ate it with her hands, didn't you, Tensil,
She's great, you're remembering I slept in my uniform. Iyna, but I
ate your salad with my fingers and I liked it. Yeah. Yeah,
she's just she's an odd one. Yeah, she's great. All right,
Well, with that worth the challenge. We'll be sorry. I should have
given you more time. Best, but we are all right. So here
we are worked with TJ. TJ makes Steve hand model the stars, all
of his hands everything. It just it feels really awkward when he's like my
hands, you look at my hands. Yeah, I don't think I like
Steve either. He's a weird he's a weird person. Oh it's weird.
Yeah, somebody pay you to do hand stuff, you do it. I
mean, I do it. I just don't know what I talk about it
all the time, or be like, look at my hands, look at
me pretty they are you heard that folks Carlin's and the hand stuff. Sure,
but this is what we learn about stars. I like this version of
the Stars better than the Skulls. There is only six stars they're giving away
in this very first challenge, and if you have if you don't have one,
your only shot is to steal one. I fucking this same. I
think, I honestly feel like MTV paid attention to all of the fans who
were like, what the fuck is the skulls thing? Why are we doing
that? Why are we going back to the island style stuff where you have
to steal it? Like this is pointless? I love this too. Limiting
the stars is everything. Telling them straight up right away that they're limiting them
will change the game. I really have enjoyed this. Yeah, giving all
six of them out and saying here they are. You don't have one,
You're not going yep. I don't necessarily love it, Zax. Why not
because I always feel like if you're the type of person that has such a
strong social game and strategic game that you can navigate yourself from start to finish
without ever seeing elimination, then you should be rewarded for that. And like,
sure, you can get someone else to go in and win a star
for you, but for the most part, if you don't have a star
from day one, you're gonna have to at some point put yourself into elimination.
And I don't think you should. I feel like you brought up the
exact thing that they should be doing. If you have such a strong social
game that you can make it so that you make it to the final without
going into elimination, then your strong social game is strong enough to have someone
else go into elimination for you and win you that star, which we'll get
to. Yeah. No, And I like that they have to earn it,
Zach. I see your point that it has become part of the challenge,
that avoiding the eliminations is a strategy, and that's how the winners do
it. I like, let's get back down the basics. Let's make those
fuckers go into elimination. I hate it when people make it all the way
to the final without going into elimination. That's why I really loved even though
the Skulls were a thing. I really loved the seasons where you have to
go into elimination in order to get this, and if you don't go into
elimination, you're not going to have the chance to get it. I love
that. Yeah, and we'll get into the different strategicy that's going to come
into play when they describe how the stars can be won. Yeah, and
I have some thoughts and we thought, like you know, a little been
an episode two. I remember when we were covering the seasons with the Skulls,
like we say now like, oh, we liked you know, parts
of it, but we would always get so annoyed during the like nominations because
every week it was just some I'm saying like yep, I want to go
in this week, and everyone's like great, and like no, there's no
fighting, there was no controversy. No, I agree. I still agree
with that, Like it drives me nuts when people will when it's just kind
of the populating contest, like, well, I'm going to go in this
week, so everybody's gonna I'm putting myself down. That means you all have
to just vote for me, and I'm going to do it. But I
got in the next episode because I have thoughts about that too. I feel
like there's a way to counteract that now, which we'll get to. Yeah.
Uh, well, this challenge is called Reach for the Stars, and
there's eight boxes. You got stars, a box of stars, but each
star will only fit on one of the eight and you've got to go in
order one to eight. TJ says that the first three men, first three
women get a star, and then those are the winners, and then there's
like a middle group, but the bottom four players of each under will be
potentially going into elimination. The middle group nominates the players that go in elimination,
which is unbelievably weird to me. What do you guys think about this?
The winners don't get to do it. I don't mind it. I
kind of like it. I like it. Yeah, it's different. It
takes some of the power away from the people who consistently win, because,
like, that's one of the issues that we've had in previous seasons, where
you have the Johnny Bananas and you've got the the Wes's and sort of thing
who are constantly in that winner circle. So it's always what they want to
have happen every week. So that's how we end up getting the same players
into elimination every single week, because yeah, those people start off that drat
that nomination, and then everybody else just goes with it. I think this
is a little bit more fun because the group varies a little bit more and
you have some of the not stronger, like some of the weaker players in
there actually getting a real vote. Yeah, so I like it. Yeah,
I guess we'll have to see it plays out. I guess my thing
is like for the other for the players that one gold Stars but didn't win
the challenge, they have no real essay, Like they don't get to decide
who goes in or anything, say for that week. Yeah, okay,
I mean they're they're safe in the sense of going home, but they're not
safe in the sense of being able to protect their star, right, true,
but they're yeah, they're safe in that, and they are also they
also have the chance to think go in against the person who is in elimination.
So I think that's the other part of it is if they were able
to vote in who they wanted, then they would just always put down the
people they perceived to be the weakest players so that they could go in against
them. If they don't have the star, they could go in in against
them and get their own or get one for someone else. So I think
that was a way to combat that potential issue. I could see that because
I could definitely see like Rachel being like, oh, I'm gonna throw in
jazzmin go destroy her and something physical and like give might give a start to
Veronica. Yep, yeah, I could see that happening pretty consistently too.
Well, this is what I was going to talk about, and I guess
we're doing it now. Is just there are ways to counteracts with people like
oh, I want to go in. I'm gonna vote myself in, and
if the person who won doesn't want the stronger person to go in, they're
like, well, I'm gonna I got to keep them from getting a star,
so I'm going to take their place, go into elimination, take out
the weaker person, and make sure that person does not get a star.
Right. I have thoughts about that, and I do think that we need
to put a pin in it because I feel like it for the second episode,
I have some thoughts because I feel like that could have happened. But
then there's also and we didn't see in the second episode because in this episode
the two the man and the woman who did the best, their stars are
protected. Ye. And I don't know if going forward, if they already
have one, if that means their stars off limits, or how that's going
to work. Well, yeah, we'll save for the second. Yeah,
it is weird. It always takes like four episodes to like understand the rules.
Yeah, it does feel like they have. They've given us more rules
than they have in previous seasons right up front though, And I think that's
important. Yeah, I agree. I have a note here. I like
the red shoes. I think the outfits of the season are cool. They're
like all black, but they have red shoes. And I've also noticed a
lot of people wing ship on their arms. It was like a compression sleeve
or something on their arms. Probably I like it. I just think it
looks cool in the fashion this season. I didn't even notice any of that
the pictures they've realized their their uniforms were black until until Tim said, I
just thought it was cool. Man. When they started running, they just
see the red shoes running, I was like, all right, that's pretty
sweet. Kara is just fucking destroying it. She just seems like she whips
right through it. TJ's she came back to play. Ye, yeah,
we've seen this, like these these older players that take some time off and
then come back. They come back so of with something to prove. And
I think Car is a great competitor anyway. Yeah, she came back ready
to play. I think she wanted to win this first one and show everyone
that too, and she just fucking knocked it out, just crushed it.
I do love that. The holes and the stars and the distance and another
thing, Ryan's confessional of how far apart the different holes were on the star
he was measuring size. Yeah, oh, yep, this is one penis.
Yep, that's another penis. I loved that. I thought it was
great. Yeah. There everybody has so much personality, like Flora's yelling fuck
you at puzzle pieces and stuff, and I mean Jay is struggling. It
looks like he's about to cry and challenge. It's just great. I just
love watching all these people be predictable and stupid. Yep, yeah, I
don't know. So, Yeah, Car wins, then Brad Win or Brad's
Brad's the winner for the men. Uh, then Adam and Brandon Kefla is
the first male of the middle group. He gets emotional and shit cries and
I don't know it was I mean, that's one of the few times I've
actually been like, okay, I can deal with your emotions, because it
was kind of fun to see him be like I have been back here in
twenty five years, like this is this wasn't supposed to happen. I wasn't
supposed to be here like kind of fun. Yeah, I like him so
far. I like him so far too. If he was looking at a
picture of his kids, Tim would be all over it. Yeah, that
would be since he's notis like, no, that's right, I can't relate
to it at all. Yeah. We see Tony finish and pulls the wrong
flag. Is to the Tony move right here to he's such a moron.
Rachel and Avery they get the last gold stars. We're into the middle group
or sorry, the bottom group. The bottom group is Leroy, Flora,
Steve, Tina, Derek, Tyreeve, Veronica, and Jasmine. No surprises
here, right. If we were to put Heroy to be, I figured
the j would have been in the bottom group over Leroy. Yeah, that
I think we would have switched those, but otherwise we can kind of this
is what we would expect, right, yeah, yeah, So I guess
that's it for the challenge. We are back at the house. Brad and
Kara are in that winner's room. We've seen this before. I can't remember
what season, but it's the exact same room, and the posters around are
the people who have the stars, so there's six there's room for six posters.
That's all the star holders. And Brad and Car talk about how that's
like the targets, like the whole house knows, like that's who we need
to go after. Car is really trying to coin this stargets, really trying
to make it happen. I actually kind of like the targets though I don't
know, but I feel like it's gonna be a stop trying to make fetch
happen to I just watched that movie. I just watched that movie for the
very first time. Sam like said, just because Cars, you watch your
original tim or the new musical version. So I watched the original. I
watched the original. I'm halfway through the musical with Daisy. Daisy wanted me
to watch it because you remember the day that the boy told Katie, whatever,
Yeah, October October, it's my birthday, Daisy thought was very important.
That's not a movie holiday I celebrate, whereas Rex Manning Day was on
Monday and I was full on celebration. I don't know what that is.
I know I I always post Empire Records October third meme every year day.
Zach, well, think about me next time that's my birthday. Send me
a text message. You need that group watch of Empire records. Apparently Blues
brothers Empire Records. We'll just start stacking up the movies. Sorry, Tim,
continue, you're good. Steve tells Tony he thinks they should just throw
in the bottom two, which of course he thinks that because he's not one
of the bottom two. But he kind of knows. There's some politics we
played here. So we're just going to see what happened. Here we go.
Tricia says I also celebrated April eighth. Happy Rex Manning Day. Thank
you, Tricia. Happy Rex Manning Day to you two cases. It's the
same warehouse as the World Championship. Yes, this house looks very familiar.
We've seen We've seen a lot of this before. All right, so the
middle group is talking about who they're gonna throw into elimination. Cam just says,
like, not Leroy please. I found it a little awkward when she
said that, but I did like that everybody was just like, oh yeah,
we weren't good, but it was still one of those like Cam,
but but you didn't actually have to say that. You probably could have just
let it ride. I doubt anybody would have put his name in there anyway.
Yeah, I feel like we're gonna have to get to a point where
both Cam and Leroy are like not in the voting room before you could throw
one in. So I think people are gonna throw one in while the other
one's there. Yeah, ye, all right, Well it ultimately comes down
to Stephen Tyree. I don't know, we don't need to get into all
the politics. It was sort of obviously it was going to be them.
Tyree says he has a bad elimination record, but he's trying to change history
tonight. And Steve apparently likes Dan zigg for some reason. Mother. I
mean, I like dancing too. But remember when there was rumors he was
gonna play Wolverine in the X Men movies. Yeah, I was like back
in the nineties. Yeah, no, it was great. It would have
been met Steve for a minute. Steve would be great to Steve would be
great. Wolverine, All right, we learned a little more. So they're
at the they're in the arena now, but they're not. I don't know
this counts the elimination wolf Should we play the bump? Did you go through
voting? Yeah, it's Tyrene. Sorry, I got distracted. Margot decided
she wants to sleep under my desk. Now, a little more about the
stars. This is when they learn that they can and in fact, have
to be stolen. I guess we didn't learn that until just this very second.
But Cam says this is an elimination queen's dream scenario. I agree.
Right, if you're good eliminations, you're in a good spot here. Yeah.
You have the potential of not only winning and keeping your own star,
but winning and giving stars to the people who you want to keep there.
And if you're in the right position, you can sort of choose who you
go against. Yeah you know so. Yeah, lots of factors going into
these eliminations and how they can out, which is nice. I like this
when they get real subtle and weird all right, So the elimination is called
catch a falling Star. Basically, we've seen all sorts of variations of this.
You jump into a pit, you try to find balls with stars painted
on them out of many many more that do not have stars painted on them.
Tyree seems approaches a zero strategy. He just grabs balls, throws them
in. Steve stockpiles balls. Yeah, but Tyree's kick and Steve's ass for
a little while there, Yeah, he is. Yep. Do you think
there was only twelve? There was there? So there's twelve of each?
Right? Was there only twenty? I think there were twenty three? Yeah,
Okay, that's why Steve was able. Steve knew where the final one
was and just sort of waste a bunch of time. Yeah. Yeah,
Because Steve was stockpiling them. It looked like he was putting them underneath the
cover on the edge. It was hard to see where he's putting them.
That's where you think it was. Yeah, he was scrolling them away somewhere,
so trek. Yeah, I think he somehow found a way to like
tuck him underneath or inside the covering on the edge, because he kept going
back to the exact same spot and being that it was a pit full of
water. Even even if you like put them in the general area like they
they would move Hello to too, joining the podcast. This cat likes me?
Now, I've had this guy for like six years up the US,
away from She never gives about me. She sleeps with me. Now,
it's fucking weird, all right, Tim is mystified that people and animals like
him. Dude, I've had the cat six years. The cat's never paid
any attention to me at all, and then all of a sudden, she
like just like sleeps with me. It's weird. Yeah, it's called owning
a cat. I grew up with cats. I didn't. This has never
happened anyway, that's it. Steve Wins he was doing a showmanship thing right
during this, like the last one when they're like digging through the sand and
shit, and then Steve was just like, oh, I forgot, Yeah
there's one back there. And then he like makes a big production and drops
the thing. Yeah. I couldn't. I couldn't figure out if he was
like just kind of doing a show for that last and then went over or
if he truly did forget that he had one over there. I think it
was a show. I think he'd truly forgotten then. I think kind of
like his slow walk to put In like it seemed like he was kind of
like looking in Tira you being like sorry, dude, like the sucks and
like, yeah, that part was definitely I think that was the I bet
I guess like good sportsmanship style show lasts a little bit, but the hunt
hunting around in the sand and all that sort of thing. Carly just cut.
I know, I heard it. I heard it too. Say that
word cardon why it Counts is a great world. I've got one. I'm
allowed to say it. Can I say? Maybe don't like it? Well,
I mean you just said it twice, so yeah, why not because
I was accusing you of saying it. I do there is I actually listened
to another podcast where when they want to say that because they need to be
a little bit more precy, they call them they call women hunts. Oh
yeah, of course they say they're acting real hunty you next Tuesday. I
like this because that makes it so much better. Yeah, it just I
mean, it just it makes it. It makes it more comical to me.
I think hunt is a great word. Sorry to everyone on the Who's
listening. Who really dislikes everything that it was three minutes. I forgive you
Cyndy uh Is on occasion. Sure she wanted to say it. Today she
had some drama work. Oh all right, well that's it. Episode two.
I'm gonna go to the bathroom. Okay, you're welcome for the infide.
Everybody wants to know. Okay, okay, he did me at his
That was so loud. I thought Tim accidentally like hit something when he got
up. Oh that scared me. That was so loud. I couldn't hear
it. So that's on the sod. Well we are we are not in
Panama. We are still in South Africa. All Stars Fars Episode two is
called you Won't Break My Soul? Yeah, yeah, definitely will. So
we start out with the recap. But first we really start out with a
really awkward scene of Steve laying in the middle of the lawn with massage gun
going all over his legs and then it goes to him just like holding it
over his crotch and he says, last week on the challenge and it's it
was it was awkward. His like thinning hair is flowing out. I don't
know, it was just it was a weird scene, and then he does
the voiceover for the recap, which I also found odd. So I skipped
the previously on but apparently need to go back and watch them because it sounds
like will be hilarious. Yeah, I have a feeling that they're all gonna
if if the rest of them or anything like this one, then it's gonna
be an awkward scene of the person who won the previous episode or won the
elimination of the previous episode. So we'll see next episode will tell tell us
if the winner does it. Anyway, So they get through the recap,
and then we immediately go into a bunch of different discussions about stealing stars,
and the big twist that people are talking about in the kitchen is that if
you steal a star from someone of the opposite gender, you do not get
to keep that star. You have to give that star to someone of the
same gender, which is a it's an interesting twist. So it means that
we cannot end up with six guys or six girls. It has to be
three and three, which is good. Yeah, I appreciate that they I
feel like it's yet another thing that MTV has finally fucking listened because there have
been so many goddamn seasons the Island, especially where the guys just kept trying
to get rid of the girls and it drove me up a wall. Uh.
But then we get our first scene, first super awkward scene of the
episode of Nicole and Laurel. They are in the kitchen making food within like
two feet of each other, and the tension is at the max. Well,
Fee, did you ever do this with Amanda, like pre divorce because
she moved out the day the day up. I just mean like you're fighting,
but like you're not talking, so you're just pretending like you can even
see each other when you're inches away. Oh yeah, you do all the
time. That's great. Oh my gosh, it's so great. I miss
I miss married life so much. That's what happened and a half before Unhappy
married life is. I don't I don't want any anything of us because smart,
smart, I'm glad you listened to me and Wolfes and Zachie's strifes.
Yeah, just don't be in an unhappy marriage. There you go, all
right. We do get a great confessional from Jasmine, though, because Jasmine's
also sitting in the kitchen. Just sit at the kitchen counter watching this all
happen, and in her confessionals, she's like, there's a lot of tension
between these two. I'm totally okay with it because it can help my game.
People are not gonna win talk about things help their game. No,
but I love it too. But I loved it also for the fact that
it's like, no, but it really will help everybody else's game. How
much of a shit show this is going to turn into, especially the women,
because yes, those are very strong women and they're distracted now by each
other instead of winning. Yep. Yeah, we'll see how that how that
distraction lasts throughout the season, because it looks like it turns from hate to
love real soon. Sometime in the next few episodes. Can we get a
scene there's a pool slide in this house. I don't want to live in
this house. I would just be out there twenty four to seven. Oh
my god, I'd never leave it. That looks like so much. One
she catch Tina going down. It's spraying dish in front of her flying down.
She looked like she almost went off the edge on that last turn.
Yeah, it looked like fun. And then Cam got stuck halfway down Yepram
did get stuck. She didn't have any any dish soap, any momentum.
Yep, that too. Uh. Did we get a confessional of Tina and
she's crying? Oh no, she gets real emotional. She says that she's
super sensitive. What have you ever been sensitive? She's about to hit her
period, that's what she said. Yeah, or she just hit something and
that's not us being misogynists. She literally said about that, I'm about to
hit my period. That's why I'm all emotional. Yeah. But she mentions
in that whole confessional the part of the reason why she thinks that she was
so annoying was because she's so sensitive. I have never thought of Tina as
a sensitive person. Yeah, but it's kind of I wonder if she's been
through a lot of therapy and was able to identify that she acted that way
because she was sensitive. I mean maybe, but she just that's not how
she has ever come off to make. But I agree. We get lots
more talking about stealing stars, lots of different groups talking about it. We
get confessionals from Avery saying that she's definitely the weakest one with a star right
now, and then we get Rachel saying that in her confessional that she wants
to bring Tina and Veronica to the final steal stars to give to the two
of them and bring them to the final. How likely do we think this
is at the end of the episode. Why not? She's incentivized to do
it, not only because those are her friends, but she's gonna easily fucking
stump the ship out of them in a winner take Off final. So it's
like she's she should do it, and she should like fight for them and
get them stars. So maybe we'll see her going into elimination to get them
start We'll see, which is yeah, Which is why I ask how likely
do you think this is? Because if it were any other season, I
would think there is absolutely no way in hell that Tina and Veronica are going
to end up with stars to be able to make it at the end of
the season. No way in hell. But because they've got Rachel, a
fucking beast in this game, yeah, behind them, Like there's there might
actually be a legitimate chance. Yeah, that'd really be something. And then
yeah then Rachel and yeah, I have a very good shot at winning if
she gets two people in there, Yeah, it could be kind of neat.
Yeah, I Avery and Derek and they start having a conversation and it's
all I could think was, oh, look, it's fluff talking to fluff.
You're both talking about trying to make it to the end, like neither
of you to the end. No, and I don't. I mean,
we need fluff on every show. That's fine, but I actually like sort
of new they're like just sort of own it and like have fun with it,
you know, Yeah, like when they talk seriously about winning, like
Jazmine, you're not gonna you're not gonna win. Just had half fun while
you're there. Just be entertaining to watch. That's all we need. We
did. We didn't think Jean would ever win either. That's true. I
feel like john A has always had like she showed sparks of it in previous
seasons, like when she was with Zach and they made it pretty far,
like she's shown she has definitely shown sparks of it. But we have always
thought of hers fluff. We get a really we think it a really good
scene of Jazz talking to Cam and Cam's like, give me the tea on
Ayana and this is kind of the start that spark of the Iona craziness for
this entire episode, because Jazz gives her the rundown of what Aana has done
in the last few seasons that she was on, like the salad thing,
and just how crazy she can be. Because Iana, we didn't mention this
in the last episode or in tense portion of this Iana when she when they
first come into the house, she talks to Cam and says something along the
lines of like, this is a first, this is the first time I
have roomed with a Challenge champion, saying that to Cam basically telling Cam you
were going to win this season, and Cam's very flattered about it during that
episode. But this episode just kind of like, oh, I feel like
I need to be a little a little wary of this girl. Yeah,
that conversation I didn't mention that, but that conversation was very weird between Iana
and Cam, and I just think Ana is a little bit of a weird,
intense person and a little bit a lot of a lot of bit of
one. So there, yep, uh, And then we were onto the
challenge. Uh. This challenge is called Car Sick, and it starts out
with TJ showing up in a little bago and everyone from Road Rolls is really
excited. I love the throwback. I love that during road rolls stuff like
who even fucking remembers road roles other than this old But it's great. I've
never watched, never watched a single episode. It was a great show for
me. I was like, oh, TJ's decided to drive out of the
desert and make math. No, I appreciated the throwback. We get a
real quick confessional from Leroy because there's a car suspended above the ground and he
immediately has flashbacks and the last time there was a car suspended above water and
him hitting that car and knocking himself out and landing in the water face down,
almost died, is the shorter way to Yeah, that was a scary
fucking scene. That was lifeless body floating in an ocean. Yeah, oh
my goodness. That's one of the first times on this show that I have
been like, legit, worried about someone. Yeah maybe, Yeah, that
was a scariest And then just flash back to it with like no warning,
like, can by the way, here we go, we'll triggering, but
you know, all right, So this game is played in sixteen with six
different teams. There's a van hanging from a crane. It's got a bunch
of luggage on top. They hoist the van up there and then it spins
on its way down. So everybody's real, real dizzy the moment they get
out. But while it's spinning, there is a radio station playing that's giving
out all kinds of clues that have numbers and words and places and all that
sort of thing, and they all correspond to stickers on the luggage. You
have to find the corresponding luggage and add together the numbers or times the numbers
to get codes. This whole thing was, it was very convoluted. There
were a lot of steps to get codes, to be able to open the
luggage, to then get puzzle pieces to put together a puzzle at the first
team, but the fastest team to put the puzzle together wins. This was
interesting to watch for one team, and then after that I was like,
Okay, we got it. Let's just yeah, fast forward. You may
it further than me. Well, because I was bored on the first team.
Well, I was just trying to figure out how it worked, like
Carlin says, a little convoluted. Yeah, it was one hundred percent sure.
And then when you know, seeing it play out, I'm like,
okay, yeah, I see how this works now. And then after that
I was like, okay, we can just skip right right to the end.
Yeah. I mean really, the only thing that the only notable things
that came out of it is when the second team goes Catholic gets really excited
and he does the splits, which was very impressive. Yeah. Large,
Yeah, the third team was ungodly bad at math? Un goodly bad?
Is the car Maria one? Is the car Maria team? Oh my god?
So bad at Math? When Ace is the smart one in your team,
that's a problem because Aces pretty they were actively they were asking it was
like three hundred and seventy two or something like that plus eight, and Ace
was just like it's three eighty and they're just like no, or three seventy
nine. Oh my god, worry is this bad of math? Yeah?
Oh it was so bad. Also, you get a real quick confessional from
Laurel in this where she mentions in her confessionable confessional that she and Kara have
always had like they were really good friends and she doesn't know why her relationship
with Kara is now the way it is. And my only thought to that
very so do you have amnesia. You can go back and watch it on
television. Laurel, Yeah, brings you can see I ship. You can
see it in the in the coming soon. Like you're screaming in her face
and you do this all the time. What what do you mean? You
don't know why? This is the way someone should edit together a montage of
all the people she screamed at. Just be like, are you friends with
any of these people? Because I don't think you are. Laurel is a
real ship person. I just really think that she's not self aware whatsoever.
Like I said in the in our last pot, like she's fun to watch
all these challenges because she's really good at it. But at the same time,
she is just a fucking asshole. Yeah, it's good things. She's
really over the nicold thing though, mm hmmm, yeah, roll over it.
I believe her when she says it, like we all do. Oh
yeah. And then the only other thing was Laurel and Nicole her on this
team. I haven't spoken a word to each other at this point, I
don't think. Yeah, So the winning team ultimately ends up being Jay,
Laurel, Tony, and Nicole and we're back in the house. Well,
we should talk about the fact that they haven't talked to each other. They
end up having to talk to each other during the competition, and then during
the post thing interview, Laurel's just like, yeah, we're not We're not
going to be talking to each other, which the Coles like, I don't
wish it will for you, and then Laurel's just like, la la la
la la a five year old. Oh my god, Laurel would drive me
nuts in real life, both of them, both of them, Laurels.
Yeah. What I found interesting is Tina did a podcast this week and she
mentioned that for this challenge, they randomly picked keem captains, but after that
it was a school yard pick. So I don't know who the captain was
to put Laurel and Nicole together because they were looking out for us fans there.
I bet you it was Tony. You think it's Tony. I think
it was Tony. And the reason why I think it was Tony was because
of club Night. Because at club Night, Tony's sitting at a table with
Laurel, Nicole, and Jay and tells all three of them, if I
could keep this team together for the rest of the season, I would,
oh because Tony and Nicole were on their original season together of the Real World.
I think that Jay in this episode really proved himself to Tony and I
think Tony they seem like they like each other, like they're they're going to
become friends. And then Tony's don't worry, brother, I'll eat and drink
stuff for you. But then Tony also knows that Laurel's a fucking beast in
these challenges, regardless of her history with Nicole. I bet you it was
Tony who who figured out that team. Yeah, good man. It also
makes a lot more sense as to how we ended up with like teams with
a bunch of road rules people on it, and some of those teams seemed
very It seemed like an odd combination to be so random. Yeah, it's
minor shit like that that we miss by going from an hour and a half
to forty five minutes. But I guess I don't care. I'm fine missing
that little shit. It's it's worth losing the other bullshit that we don't have
to want. Yeah, isn't like I can read about that, and like,
I'm fine right now just knowing what I know. I don't need to
see that on TV. Yep, right, I can sort of speculate that's
enough. Yeah. Yeah, So we're at club night. Janelle tells Ayanna
that she wants to go in, that she wants to volunteer herself to go
in, and she doesn't care who the other person is because the other two
women that are on the bottom are Tina and Jasmine. She doesn't just tell
Ian, she tells like a bunch of people that, yeah, so well
it starts off with just with Aana and I think Avery or someone starts off
with them. And then throughout club night she goes around to a bunch of
different tables and tells all of them, I want to go in. I
don't care who you pick. I want to go in. I don't care
Harry you pick, I want to go in. I don't care who you
pick. And at the same time, Ayana is going around to other tables
and saying, you know, Janelle so that she wants to go in,
and she's really lobbying to go in against Jasmine yep, and confessionals she says
she's lying. She calls it manufactured though when she first said it, I
was like, wait, so did we just miss that? And then immediately
that commessional came around like, oh, oh, this is how you're gonna
play this game. Yeah, all right, we haven't seen Iona be like
shitty like this that I can remember, like this way. I don't know
that's miss not in this way, but yeah, this was a whole other
level of mess. Yeah, this was shittier than we've seen her. It
feels like, Yeah. Ultimately, it ends up coming around to Jasmine that
there. Kara ends up going to Jasmine and telling Jasmine that there's a rumor
going around that Janelle wants to go in and she wants going against Jasmine,
and Jasmine's like, well shit, let's go find out in person. Let's
go ask her straight up, which I appreciate. It shows that they have
grown. And she confronts Janelle at club night and Janelle's like no, and
she breaks down. It's just there's way too many emotions for a game.
Wasn't Brad too, one of the voices of Reasons saying like, this doesn't
seem like Janelle. I gotta ask Janelle because this doesn't feel right to me,
and it's we're ruining this game, And yeah, Brad having some insight
onto this thing too. Yeah, and ions in the background, she's just
like so stoked on the drama that happening because Janelle gets really upset, like
significantly more upset than she ever should. Yeah, I feel like she gets
overly upset, which should lead over into the next morning. Yep. Yeah,
So next morning, We've got a weird scene in between Avery and Tina,
and Avery's basically telling Tina that she doesn't know who she's going to vote
in, but she kind of feels like she wants Tina and Janelle to go
down because they're both strong players. I don't know that I consider Tina's strong
player, but maybe a good social player. I just don't know if I
consider a good social player. She's got Rachel and Veronica, though. Yeah,
she has a team an alliance that is good at social but I don't
feel like Tina is. Yeah, I agree that. Yeah, Tita is
one of my picks. Okay, I got a roof for her somehow.
But yeah, so she's she feels like Tina's threatening her, saying like,
if you're not gonna be on my side, then you might want to watch
out. She was threatening her though, oh no, she absolutely was.
Uh. And then Tina a few minutes later, we see another scene of
her talking to Janelle saying, I mean, why don't you just say it
with your whole chest and say that you actually want to go against jazz because
jazz will be easier, And Janelle completely loses it. She completely breaks down,
She is falling. She's talking about how she's a mom and she shouldn't
have to put up with this ship and just so many emotions for something hasn't
even happened yet, like voting hasn't even happened yet. It feels like there
has to be something else going on here because this, Yeah, this reaction
was larger than the offense in my opinion, Yeah, way larger, Like
even with all of the pot stirring and all of that, it was just
it was very It was it was a lot. Yeah. So then we're
onto nominations. I started typing out that this was very quick and easy,
Tina Janelle, because it started going off very quick and easy, Teena Janel,
and then we got to Ayana. This is why I started to hate.
Oh my god, if you pissed off Leonroy, Like, come on,
I do love, I do love that all this happened. She droned
on and on and then cut to Leroy. He's like, Anna, you
still haven't told that you're voting for. Yeah, I'm not gonna lie I
fast. I hit go ten seconds forward, go ten seconds. I did
that three times and she was still talking and I still hit the confessionals for
the other players, Like the editors did that too. It turns just a
montage of her just randomly saying weird shit with this minute hand going in the
background. Oh my goodness, whoa nuts. She is fucking crazy. She
is so crazy. Leroy breaks the fourth wall a little bit later, saying
that when he goes up to talk to everybody else, he's like, yeah,
even the cameraman were like looking at us, like, what is she
saying? Get her to shut up? Yeah, it was so bizarre.
Kay said something I think I'm gonna try to correct to mean what she actually
said cake cake, and NA correct me if I'm wrong. But apparently I
Anna thought that Janelle wasn't black enough, and she was calling Janelle racist.
Yeah, so I did hear some of that. That there was that,
and also that apparently, uh, they're on the different end of the spectrums
politically, I don't know which one's which. And that was also a big
topic of discussion that led to this interesting which one's Mega? My guess is
my guess is going to be uh or Jasmine Janelle if she's been told she's
not black enough. I would not be surprised if that's what led to that
conversation the first place. Interesting. Okay, all right, well I don't
know, see the fact that Ion is acting so fucking nuts makes me think
that she's the MEGA side, because you've got to be fucking nuts to be
Mega. Oh that's awesome. Up, I don't know. Yeah, that's
that. I'm not surprised they cut it because it's m TV, but m
Yeah, so it was just that was it was an odd, odd scene.
Yeah, well that makes sense. What Case saying is that there's stuff
we weren't seeing raceist stuff like that. More that more like clarifies Janelle's reaction,
I guess. Yeah. It also more clarifies LeRoy's reaction to being so
like, what the fuck are you saying? Why are you getting mad about
this shit? Yeah? And didn't she do something weird too? Like I'm
I'm not going to vote for Jasmine under any circumstances, but anyway, my
vote to Night's for Jasmine. Yeah, she said that she's not going to
vote for Tina and she's not going to vote for Jasmine. She says that
for both of them and me, and then within seconds contradicts herself and says
that she's anyway, I'm voting for Jasmine. Yeah, so weird. And
that's when you kind of hear the record scratch with everybody and everything. Wait
what yeah, like you could have just abstained from the second vote. We're
at a point where it doesn't matter. Yeah, I mean she could have
thrown herself in for that vote and it wouldn't matter. And Lera like asked
for some clarification, like wait, just say that again, Like what do
you mean, what are you talking about? And she got real defensive,
like we'll talk about it privately. I don't want to waste any more time.
It's like, what the fuck is which actually now that you say that,
because she said we'll have a private conversation, we'll take this offline,
we'll do this by ourselves. This comment about racism and political spectrum, that's
really makes a little bit more sense. Yeah, okay, yeah, it's
still good. It was just like, who the fuck did you vote for?
And that's all I want to know. Leroy lost it, man,
I mean shit, I would have lost it too if I'd been sitting there
for half an hour listening to her drone on about craziness. Yeah. I
just think if Lera loses on to you, like, it's something you did
is wrong? A level headed yeah? Oh man? Well, and then
as soon as the picks go up on the wall, Janelle tells Cam,
I don't even want to I'm gonna go home. I'm done. Yeah,
boom, you made it through one and a half episodes. Why the fuck
are you here? Right? Yeah? I'm done with Jane. Yeah.
And as as crazy as Ayana is, I appreciated in her confessional that she
says, uh, you know if you think she's crazy, but she's like
Janelle, quitting is disrespectful to everyone else who wanted to come on this show.
And I one agree totally. Yep, if you're gonna quit the show,
why the fuck are you here? I have some mixed feelings. So
obviously we didn't see everything of this conversation, but I feel like the fact
that Iana, to me, it sounds like basically bullied her into quitting.
And then I was like wow, like how dare you quit? It's like,
well, if you hadn't bullied her, she wouldn't have. But is
it bullying? I mean I guess, yeah, I guess we didn't.
We can't talk of the stuff we didn't see. Yeah, but my guess
is once again, looking at comment, the fact that she's calling her racist
leads me to think that Janelle is basically like, you know, probably the
the Maga one and so just sitting there being told like you're not you're not
really black, like you're a race trader because of your loolotics. Back it's
here being like I didn't come on the show for this type of thing.
Yeah, I mean I could. I could see that. Like if that's
if that's really what happened in the behind the scenes and we didn't see that
portion of it, then yeah I could see. I could understand that.
But purely on face value for what we actually get to see for the show,
it looks like Janelle is quitting just because Ian is being a little nuts.
Yeah, a lot of nuts total, And there's additional context. We
should know it. They should tell it, Yeah they should, but I
don't know. Tweet Janelle did tweet out saying that she was worried what they
were going to show, and that she appreciates that. Uh MTV didn't dive
into that. Oh then maybe that is real. Yeah, because they cut
out some stuff like Ashley calling Josh gay and stuff. I mean they like
they cut stuff off. That's like they should, and it's probably the responsible
thing. But yeah, here we are lacking a bunch of context for what
the fuck is happening. Yeah, because, like I said, face value,
it looks like she's just quitting quit. Yeah. So remember when it
used to be seven people living in a house. Things start getting real?
Yeah, yeah, I mean culture, it is like they used to purposely
go out of the way, but like, all right, we're going to
cast like a black person and a racist and put them together. And now
it's like, oh, like we shouldn't even have racists on TV. It's
like, which I agreed to a degree, but it's also like, that's
what made the show so unique in the early days is that you did put
in people that had opposing views and made them like hash it out. Yeah,
but that was also back in the day where they made them hash it
out and they'd let some growth actually happen. They made things into real teachable
moments. It was before they let Camilla go on a racist tirade and then
tried to cover it up. Or the last Real World Las Vegas racist girl
got beaten the face multiple times for being racist. Yeah she did, and
I just clapped and cheered the old time. I was like kay her season
with yes yes, and Kayla yeah, and Dion so mad that we never
said going on the challenge agreed, all right, c J and Jenna,
you're right, yes, all right? I still uh, I still followed
Jenna on Snapchat. She she's not much different. Fuck her Snapchat still a
thing. It is on Snapchat. I'm on Snapchat more often than I would
like to. But you don't want to be on TikTok. I don't want
to be on anything forced my life to do ship. Now, are you
on Snapchat a lot because you're like keeping an eye on what she's doing?
Are you on it for your own purposes keeping on what she's doing? I
don't understand it, man. It's like it's it's snapchat. She can send
stuff to people directly, and then it disappears you're not keep it tracking ship.
Well, it's like a there's like a parents account ship. It's like
all very complicated. It's super interesting for the non parents of us. Yeah,
does she know that you're monitoring? Back to the challenges? Next soon
is Laurel and Nicole, And I do have to say this is one of
the only times that I've actually seen, like, I don't know, real
growth from Laurel, because Laurel's basically telling Nicole, I need you to apologize
for what you did to me, not just the you how I felt about
it, and I've got I've got some apologies like that, Uh a year
and a half ago. Yeah, because didn't la Didn't Nicole cheat on Laurel?
Is that? Yeah? So Nicole or Laurel says, I need you
to apologize for doing X to me and not just for how it made me
feel, because I need you to I need to hear that so I know
that you understand what you did to me and how like how it affected my
life. And Nichole's response to it is like, yeah, I'm not gonna
do that, and I'm going to leave this conversation because I'm uncomfortable. But
five minutes ago you were calling her the five year old. Yeah, they're
both wrong here, right, because Laura shouldn't be doing this on television.
Like she's right, like the words that are coming out of her mouth are
correct, But didn't she have literally years to do this and didn't she waited
until you're in front of TV and like that's I mean, maybe she did
say it and this is just the first time they've seen each other in person
since then. I don't know. I like at it, this is this
is TV and they are paid being paid to do this shit. So yeah,
that's kind of what it is. Laura was talking like a therapist,
but it's sort of as like, well, that's Laura saying it, and
she's a mess, so I don't believe it. I agree with that.
Somebody, somebody wants to join the Facebook group and they listed Tim as there
is the host of the show no favorite. So speaking speaking of Facebook and
host certain thing, all of the host posts that I put up, we
had a few people who commented like where's t J and who is this?
Oh? These are people who joined this thinking that this was the actual challenge
pod challenge Ha ha, sucker you idiots. Every time I see you,
it just it made me. It made me giggle. Listen to people who
aren't involved in the show. Talk about the show fucking morons, all right.
Uh So the elimination it's called cheek Codes and there are two giant Nintendo
controller it's Nintendo right, No, yeah, it doesn't matter whatever, video
control nineteen eighty controllers in the middle of this arena. Uh And the game
is that you press a button you on the screen across from the controllers,
a cheat code pops up. You have to memorize the cheat code and then
reproduce it on your controller, and the first person to get it right wins.
Well, the people that are supposed to be going into this elimination are
Janelle and Tina, but Janelle just left, so everybody's real confused. It's
what's gonna happen. TJ then opens it up to the winners of the challenge,
which it's Nicole and Laurel who have the chance to fight to go down
and win their star, and both of them pass on it. This is
where Wolf be earlier when you were talking about how people can steal stars and
all that sort of thing. This is one of the things where it's aggy
these are I feel like, at least Laurel is a significantly stronger player Nicole.
Maybe not so in this specific game because it's somewhat mental and she's not
a real mental player. But I feel like Laurel missed a real big chance
here, and I don't understand why she did that. Yeah, I don't
either, And actually I meant to break something up and we can talk about
it here. I guess. Do we feel like this early in the game,
throwing yourself into elimination to get a star is like a viable strategy whatsoever?
No? No, you should the last elimination of your gender, right,
I feel like in this specific instance it's viable, where like otherwise this
person is just going to get it by default, which Tina ends up getting.
Well, I'm talking about Janelle specifically, like if she had stayed then
went through. Yeah, She's like, I want to go in because I
want to start, I want to star, And I'm like, it is
the first female elimonade. This is way too to be trying to do this.
So yes, I agree with that. But at the same time,
the two people that she had the potential of going into elimination against were Tina
and Jasmine, and Janelle had a legitimate chance to beat both of them.
So I think depending on the people that you were going against, why not
try and take that chance now rather than potentially have to go against a much
stronger player later. Yeah. But then like the other people that have stars
or Carl Maria, yeah and Rachel and you know you're gonna take Avery's I'm
assuming. Yeah, so then it's like, Okay, you're still at the
bottom. People are going to take your star. Because if Carl, Maria
and Rachel are mad at me, like I'm not pissing them off for the
entire rest of the game. Yeah, I think at this point, whoever
gets that star, they're going to lose it the next Women's Day. No,
they'll have to go on a second time and get it back and then
they'll lose it. You know. Second, I'm not going to third elimination
saying Cars is just sort of safe by default. Cars and Rachel's they just
nobody's gonna challenge, Nobody's gonna take it from them because they just don't want
to piss them off this early. Now, maybe half through the season,
yeah, you know, it'd be more open. But like the first female
elimination, you want to make a strong enemy like Carl Maria Rachel. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, that's we saw the same thing with the Skulls,
where you know, for the first half of the season, people didn't really
got themselves and they went on the midpoint and they're like, all right,
now that there's only like one or two eliminations left, I'll go in and
get mine. Yeah. But like the one of those seasons with the Skulls
was the one that Jenny won, and Jenny got her skull. She had
this same kind of thing that Janelle has where she ended up in an elimination
against the other Jenny when they were throwing those poles over the like switching those
poles over, and the other Jenny couldn't even make it through one and buff
Jenny won her skull almost immediately and then kept it the entire game. So,
I mean, I agree, I don't think that you want to piss
off Rachel Lacara this early on in the game. But I mean maybe if
Janelle had stayed it, could she could have potentially gotten like won that game,
stolen one of those two, the star from one of those two,
and then they have to either be in the bottom to be able to go
and win a star in a late elimination or they have to be in the
top to be able to throw themselves in, So there's there's a much lower
chance. I mean, they're both great players. There's a high chance,
but there's a slightly lower chance that they would actually get the chance to go
back in and win, because I don't think there's anybody else in this game
who would go into an elimination to win a star to then give it to
one of those two. Yeah, except for maybe Tanya and Veronica, and
neither of them are I could see let's say Janelle stayed and like Tip Cars
like Star. I could see Carr literally the next Women's Day purposely throwing the
challenge to be in the bottom with Janelle because she's weak, and be like
I want Janelle. Not only am I gonna take her start, I'm gonna
take her out of this game, and anyone that messages with me in the
future, yeah, I'm taking you out next. Yeah. I think car
and Rachel might be vindictive enough to throw it so that they end up in
the bottom to immediately have the chance to go get that star and eliminate the
person that took it from them. Yeah. Well, I mean that would
require Janelle to also lose, and she may not, like she may actually
be a strong enough player to not lose. No, but the idea is,
you know, the weak players, you know, take you know,
if we're gonna go down and take out Janelle Ortina because they're weak, then
you're probably gonna assume that they're gonna be in the bottom going forward because they're
weak. Yeah, Janelle Ortina. Yeah, but I'm saying, if Janelle
is a good enough player, then she may not end up in the bottom
again. Possibly. But so if Janelle was there, do you think they
would you have been afraid for Laurel or you know, Nicole did go against
Janelle. No, I think if Janelle had stayed to do the the elimination,
I think the outcome would have been the same. I don't think that
Nicole or Laurel would have thrown themselves in at all. I'm just really surprised
that Laurel didn't even attempt to get her star because I felt like this is
something that like, Laurel's a smart enough person that she'd be able to do
this. Why do you think they gave Laurel the first chance? You know
what I mean? Why Laurel and then and then Nicole because she was just
I don't know, she was on line for where they were panning the camera.
I have no idea, I mean, why why, I mean,
why was Laura given first dibbs to go in? You know what I mean?
Ye if if Laurel and and Nicole both wanted to go in, would
they battle against each other and then Tina and Jell? I think so?
I think, yeah, I think each one could take the place of one
of the people who was voted in. So I think Laurel could have taken
Jannell's spot and Nicole could have taken tina spot. But then Laura still its
first DIBs, right, Laurel could have taken she would she would want to
go against Tina, and then Nicole would step in and say, no,
I want now I'm going to go against Laurel. Yeah, I don't know,
and that's my that's my guess is probably they felt the producers felt like
if Laurel, like, if Laurel goes in, Nicole is more likely to
throw herself against Laurel, then Laurel is to throw herself against Nicole. They
just picked the lineup based on whatever was going to play the best drama.
You're saying, yeah, maybe, well so Earlier, earlier in the episode,
during the club night, Cam is sitting down with Laurel and basically saying
this exact thing, like, Okay, well, if you guys have the
chance to throw yourselves in, I mean, why don't you and Nicole just
go down there and battle out. Then she's out of the house. Then
you don't have to worry with this drama here. It doesn't have to be
a thing anymore. Yeah, when are he was going here? I don't
know. Maybe if maybe producers saw that and we're like, hmm, this
could be fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So Tina gets a star
by default. She steals it from Avery. Happy about this on in the
discord earlier, I didn't yeah about Tina. Tina shouldn't got it, should
not have gotten a star. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Was it
was a discord or was it Facebook or something? I thought you someone brought
it up and you're like, yeah, I know, bullshit or something.
It is bullshit. Yes, she should have not gotten a star. Like,
I'm fine with her staying safe, whatever, she should go back in
the house, but she should not have gotten a star. There's nothing she
didn't She did zero. She did zero. And it's not like Janelle had
a star that Tina took. It's she gets to take avery star for for
because Janelle went on. There's nothing that makes sense about that. I'm so
so let's say Janelle had made it to the elimination and then like they blow
the horn and Janelle just stands in and doesn't compete with Tina have been worthy
of a star, then well not worthy, but technically it's a pro.
Technically that's how the game is played, and it's fine. So I think
to me, it's the same. Like either way, if she's just quitting
and giving up, I think she should get you know that, Uh,
Tina should get the star. I don't think you shouldn't start. I think
the I think what we're coming up with is there should have still been an
elimination. What that looks like. We don't know how they would have came
up with it. Would jazzmin have automatically gone in? We should have put
but then two women would have gone home. That's the issue. Then now
they're out of balance again. What do you mean to oh, gotcha?
Yeah? Yeah, but they could have fixed that at some point. Yeah,
we've seen him fix it before, could have done two men's elimination in
a row. Yeah, it was Facebook. You you agreed with somebody who's
had episode. She was dumb, Tim, That's what I was thinking of.
It's true, I really do a TEENA should not have gotten the star,
that she shouldn't have gotten the star. Yeah, the credit I will
give you there, Tim is when I was doing the scoring for Fantasy League,
I did sit there for like five minutes being like, because you normally
I have it, you get points to win an elimination, And I was
like, do I give Tina points for this or not? No? And
ultimately I did, Oh no, Ultimately I give you yes. If I'm
not, then if I'm not number one, I'm claiming rigged Zach. I'm
just telling I'm just telling you. I'm claiming. I'm claiming rigged election.
All right, all right? Should we get there? Should we just jump
into what our fantasy scores are? Zach? All right, give it to
me, Zach, tell me I'm number one. Let's do it, all
right. So I'll start with A in fourth place with ten points after two
episodes. Is Wolfy third place with fifteen points is Zachie bananas? All right?
All right, so who's gonna take it? One of you got twenty
three points, the other one has twenty one. First place this week is
Tim Yes, okay, boom, Zach Can you tell us what you're what
you're scoring on? Yes, let me pull up my spreadsheet real quick.
Uh So, Like for first episode, Cara and Brad each got four points
for being the top winners and their thing. Everyone everyone they want to star
also got two points for coming in gain a star even if they weren't the
top two. If you are in the like for the first episode, everyone
that was in the bottom four got negative one point out of that. If
you were picked for elimination, you got negative one point. Okay, if
you won your elimination, you'd get three points. If you get your stars
stolen, you lose one point, and then every you get one point for
every player that you still have left in the game at the end of the
round. So like all of us got six points except the wolf be that
round because he lost or who lost it in Yeah Wolf he lost tyree,
so yeah, he only got five points, you know, and the rest
of the yeah which I, uh I did not know you could get negative
points. Dumb, Yes, Zach Is sent them. Well, see that's
if I was using if I was Wolf, it would be dumb because I
would be in last place. But I first place. So it's the best
scoring system I've ever heard of. That's what hurt me because I did pretty
good with most things, but both episodes I had three of the people in
the losing group. So I got negative three points on both episodes for that.
Okay, very respectful of you to to keep to not change the rules
to make you win. Zech. Yeah, all right, So Zach will
you will you send me a new graphic that has all of the categories and
then are are scoring and all that sort of thing. So I will make
sure make sure I'm the largest because I'm number one, So just make sure
I'm the largest on whatever image is sent out. So when I want the
rest of this, I'm going to be the largest awesome photo had on Michael
Jordan's body because twenty five. Well, I also do you want to do
it? I do want to give a shout out to one of our patrons,
and my friend Ainsley. I was working on the graphics to go along
with the score, and Ainsley jumped in and she's like, I love making
graphics, so a lot of the graphics you guys have seen is responsible for
her. So thank you Ainsley for shouldn't have said that. Ainsley. Ames's
in the chat. Ains if you need my a better photo of me to
put on Michael Jordan's body, please let me know. I'll get it to
you. Ainsley says, I told him his graphics sucked ass, so it
took over. I started, I'd have like five percent of my graphics and
she's like, no, I'll do it nice, uh so really quickly.
In our public fantasy league, currently at the top is whatever Stove with two
hundred and thirty three points, Nice, followed not so closely in second place
by Lou with two hundred points, and then third is Nanise Noodles with one
ninety one, So first place thirty points on everybody else, Like, well
done, dude, where all the hosts at? So the hosts Big Ondel
Sweet Tea is in fifth place with one seventy one. Yeah, Baby Carl
and San Diego I am in tenth place with one forty five. Zachie Bananas
is in twelfth with one twenty nine, and Wolfie is in number twenty with
eighty two points. I suck at both and just as a reminder to all
of the listeners who are playing in the public League, you have to set
your fantasy team before two am on Wednesday I am Central Time on Wednesday,
because we have one, two, three, four, or five six different
teams who did not p any did not make their picks this episode, so
they got zero points for the episode. My favorite league name is a ct
phone home Peter. We've got to We've got to chewt shoo and then I'll
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guys, it still happen. We have how did I say, six teams
that didn't put any points in or didn't put any teams and so they could
still win. And then there's some of us like I had Janelle on my
team this week and on their scoring system that was negative fifty points. Yeah,
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Yeah, and Micah the Great ninety three says, I generally agree with
them, you can't always trust their instincts. Then he quotes me here,
I apparently said the unfortunate thing about Nelson is I think he's good at the
games. I apparently said that on the Dirty thirty previous show. So I
guess if you go through and listen to me seven years ago, I might
have said some ship that ended up not being right, but that's how it
goes. Yeah, that take on Nelson is pretty stellar, though you might
you know, they can't all be winners after this long like fucking four hundred
episodes or something, and like they're not going to be great. And I
feel like fan of Nelson in the challenge, But I gotta give a big
shout out to Scuba lat because he seems to be taking this amputation in serious
stride right, And major props to him. I was gonna say, what
if Tim's quote was like, Nelson's really good at these games and definitely has
two legs. Oh, we shouldn't laugh at that, dude. I bet
there's some real bad takes if we go back and listen to some of the
earlier, earlier shit, it's great. Yeah, but also like, I
don't think you were a Nelson fan back, I don't think any of us
were. I think we can have on us. Yeah, it took me
a minute to like Noll. And he was also coming off a second place
finish on Invasions by the way when he started thirty thirty, so we you
know, I wasn't out of line when I said it. Looking back,
obviously wrong, but yeah it fatient was awful though. Yeah, excuse me,
Hey, at least before you know, the whole foot thing happened,
he won a daily challenge. He'll always have that, that's right. Did
he went too? I think he did. I think he have one back
to back after he got his first. Yeah, he had the longest streak
of non wins though events he challenges thanks to his partner, and only thanks
to his partner. Yeah, he's Zach. Do we have any social media.
Well, we have the Iana stuff kind of discussed earlier. We alleed
it in the pre show. But uh, let's talk Kyle Christie and all
the allegations against him. Oh shit, piss again. But now I have
to stay all right, So I think, you know, look into the
you know, there's some discussion about the I think a lot of us know
about the issue with Amanda and the toilet seat way back when when Kyle and
Johnny and uh else, there's someone else taped her to the toilet seat to
a toilet set. I know that they taped up her head. I didn't
realize they taped her to a toilet seed the like, wrapped her whole body
and duct tape right with it. Yeah, and I knew about the wrapping
her in duct tape, but I didn't realize there was anything having to do
with the toilet seat. I thought the toilet the toilet seat thing. I
think you're I think you're misconstruing that with the the smash Lee episode where Johnny
stole the toilet seat, put it on the floating and put it out to
out to see on the on the little lake in their house and Smashly freaked
the fuck out about it. That could have been it as well. But
uh. Anyway, yeah, apparently there's some discussion now that not only uh,
but not only what did that happen, but there are some other allegations
that he might have been physically aggressive towards Kara on the season possibly, but
we'd have to assume off the season as well. So yeah, there's an
investigation and supposedly rumors that with both Kara and Amanda on season forty, the
Kyle thing will actually be publicly addressed on the season forty. I mean,
there were a few different times on the seasons where Kara and Kyle were together
where people alluded to, like, when they were having sex, it sounded
like someone was beating someone else up and that sort of thing. So whether
it was just during intimate periods that it sounded like that, or if it
was more often than those times, I can't say that I'm all that surprised.
I read that Kara went to producers and said that he was like physically
aggressive. I don't know if I don't know, if you like, I
don't know if abusive is the right word or aggressive, I don't know.
Since that he has not been back on the No, he hasn't. There
hasn't even been like a little bit of a of a a sprinkle of talking
about having that's not true. Oh, bringing it back now, he was
on a zoom call. Wasn't he last season? The season before? Oh?
Was he really? Yeah? Yeah, the phone called big T.
Yeah, like physically physically on the show. Yeah, they haven't distance themselves
from him, but he hasn't been back on the show in person. The
only person they've one hundred percent distance themselves from is Camilla and Bear and Bear.
Yeah, Yeah, I forgot about it. There's been. There's been
a few throughout the years, Kenny and Evan. Kenny and Evan forgot about
them too. Tanya so good, the great history of the Challenge. Yeah,
so another sad news. Somehow might know this already, but uh.
Earlier this year, Ayanna got diagnosed with breast cancer and Rachel set up a
GoFundMe for her. It looks like on the most recent updates she put up
that she has successfully completed the first third of her treatment and finished chemotherapy,
but she's still got a waste to go before she's fully cancer free. Yeah.
I think we I think I brought that up on the last week's episode.
I didn't know all the details, but I think you might have been
nice. Sound well. I wish I'm luck. She's the girl is nuts.
She's absolutely nuts. But I wish you're luck because no one wants to
have to go through that. No, definitely not. So hopefully she gets
better. I know she's got what four kids? So yes, she's the
mother for yeah, anything else? I think that's everything. Do we need
to wait until Nope, let's wrap it up. But in the show before
he gets back, Uh, everybody had every challenge dot Com, joined the
Facebook group, Patreon all that stuff we already commented on, and I guess
on Instagram. For this week's uh episode of Challenge, this has been Brian
Well, Google, Sweet Tea, Carlin san Diego, Zachie Bananas, and
as TJ said, get up here, you big beautiful bastard. Yeah. Che