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Welcome to I on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm
Steve Rivera. He's Jakins. Also, welcome to Wednesday show. I have
one thing, Jay that's talked to you about. Okay, he came in
with some mysterious comment about the topic that you had. Yeah, well,
I'm hearing this yesterday. So what's our bet with the USC Washington team?
We bet? I bet. The bet is that you picked USC to win
the league. I picked Washington to win the league. I was in at
dinner. I think it was dinner, Yeah, dinner or whatever. I'll
buy you that dinner. I'm not sure I'm gonna pull for USC. And
let me tell you why. Oh, I couldn't sleep last night for whatever
reason. I got up at two. And you know when you when you're
up at two, do you do you start scrolling? Yeah? Yeah,
so crazy, And I'm thinking I'll go to sleep. Well, I didn't
go to sleep. So then I see all this stuff on Twitter about Lincoln
Riley and the USC and the re revoking of credentials. So then I read
a column by one of the guys that at the at the Orange Cannon Register,
and I'm thinking, that's a that's I use the word petty yesterday.
I wish I could say the word. I really feel like saying, I'm
here on the air, but it's chicken, chicken, whatever, because because
it doesn't make any sense. It doesn't, man, Jay, it doesn't
make any sense. The scenario that was painted. He the reporter saw two
guys talking before the press conference, just on the side, and you saw
one guy talking to you there. Are you nervous? Did they tell you
anything to say or not to say, you know, Bob, which of
course you guys do we do you prepare them? No? Great shakes me.
And he put that in the story that he said that big revelation right
that they these games are trained to say what they say, so that it's
like me and maybe the scenario is not the same, but I'm I'm I'm
at the U A U A stadiums uh for football stadium, and I see
Jed walking with with his sid coming to the press box, coming to the
press press area, you know, and he stumbles a little, he trips,
right, he's carrying a little and he trips, and and and so
the next day that the story I write is uh uh, jet fish trips
on the jet fish tripped on the turf, you know, Arizona Stadium.
Biden be the last time he ever does this with the football program. And
then going to the success that he's had. You meant to tell me,
you need to tell me I can't use that because it was not in the
press conference, right, And that's what what do reporters do for a living,
The support and the report observed. You see things, it's to me,
it's unbelievable. It's it's it's well, in this case, I think
it's partly the arrogance of the USC football pros, right, it's you know,
there's a few programs like that. Notre Dame would be one, Ohio
State, Michigan, you know, Alabama. You know, it seems that
say, we run the show, we run the show as it relates to
the media. We run the shows that are relates to the conference. And
they do that, and USC is one of those schools. That that things
say the things they can do that. So that's that's all it is,
saying we're in charge. And you know, I know, look, my
son was an s idea to Arizona. I'm having this argument with him.
He's he's on the side of a USC on this, and what's this point?
The point being that there are rules that everybody's supposed to follow, and
there are rules, and they said, but there are some rules that are
stupid rules. And that's one of them. That you say, I saw
something and I can't report on that. If I see something, I get
to report on that. Right. If you see Jed Fish in an argument
with one of his players outside the press room, you're you're gonna say,
sure, you saw that. Sure. And if they say you can't say
that, I'm gonna say, go f yourself. Well we did. We
kind of ran across you and I run across this. Back in the day,
late eighties, right, we covered dictomy, Right, we went to
practices to observe. Right, there were certain things that we couldn't rely and
I can't even remember the specifics now Jay injuries, things like injuries. It
was really it was just injuring and police schemes. Right, Well, here's
here and here's here's an example of that. All I understand. I remember
when I was going to practice. All I understood was, you know,
you're not supposed to report on injuries, and but you're also not you know,
if they run a double reverse, you know, flee flicker, yadda,
yadda, you're not supposed to say that you saw that. When that
week that Arizona switched from the wishbones to what they called the eyebone before the
U. I was a practice all week. I just didn't notice it,
pay attention to it. I didn't see the change in the formation. And
in the end Dick said it wasn't a big deal. It's just we moved
a guy over and that was that. But but but I got in trouble
for not reporting. My boss said, how did you not report that?
He said, I missed it. I didn't see it. I just had
to say I didn't see it. They had Butch Henry and who was the
yes idea at the time in the media, said we've told reporters they are
not allowed to report on stuff like that. And I'm like, I never
agreed to that. I agreed that you know if somebody gets hurt. I
mean, I go to see if somebody got hurt. But if somebody gets
hurt, yes, we're not supposed to report on that. But you know
that going into the game. Fine, But I got in trouble for not
seeing that and not reporting it. And then I got in and then you
know, it was kind of like, did you agree to that if you
saw something like that that you weren't going to report that? I said no.
I never said I wasn't. No, I was with you on that
because I was there too, and it was a big surprise to everybody they
did what they did, and so there are restriction. Do you want any
recruiting thing with McDuff, Right, But that's reagree, that's pretty and you're
there for to get purpose to for a story, right, I just have
I don't know why I have an issue with this, but to me,
it's there against one and two. You can't you can't do that. Yeah,
with Steve. It's become that over time, over the last let's call
it ten years, with the with the how much social media everybody does,
whether it's a company, in an athletics program, a university, you know,
whoever, with all that that that they they feel now that they want
total control of the narrative, and if you step outside of that, you
know they want to they want to, you know, shred you about that.
And you know, I mean, Steve, I mean, how many
times did we get not in trouble, but get in an argument or get
you know, I mean again, I told you, Luke didn't talk to
me for years because of the last the last basketball story I did, which
is you know, when they got beat would I went and I talked to
Judd Bush and he gave me this story and I wrote it, and somehow
Luke thought I shouldn't have written that he and he was mad at me for
years over that. That's a that's an extreme example of that particular time.
But now it's become a point where these programs and everybody really strategically tries to
control what's out there about them. Sure, and they want you and they
don't want you to observe the other stuff that's going on or reported. Well,
let me say this, that's been the case since the edge of time,
end of time. People want positive. People want positive, But now,
like you saying, the last ten years or so, uh, people
want positive all the time. Life isn't like that. I mean, I
mean, think about the amount of time we now get with because they're trying
to control they instead of where you or I. When recovering the team,
I said, I'm gonna do a story on Darryl Lewis this week, and
I'd go interview Darryl Lewis us, right. And you didn't know that,
right, And I didn't know who you were interviewing. You know who your
story petitions. Right now, It's like they bring these two players and that's
your story. Hated man, I hate it. I hate it. That's
why I don't ask any questions or care to ask any questions, because my
story is your story and your story is my story and depends how well we
write it. Right. You know, you know who, you know who
the stories are about. You know. So there's gonna be a story coming
up on Dalton Johnson, the safety who's having you know, because everybody asked
question about Dalton Johnson, asked questions about Jacob Monnett. Those are the features
that you can expect to see in the media this week. You're previewing the
airs Ona Stanford game. Whereas before I didn't know who you were writing,
and you didn't know what I was writing until you saw it on Saturday morning.
I neither I'm cussing you out or you're cussing me out right, And
you see, that was a good story. I wish I had it,
you know whatever. That's what the good old Those are good old days of
newspapers and and the business and and that's gone. And you know who's missing
out the readers, the readers and the fans, the readers in the fan
they're not getting, no question, they're not getting, you know, the
stories that are out there. Let me say this because I've seen this in
a number of times during the Sean stuff, and that was the worst part
of it. Sean limited his guys to play. The only guy I really
feel comfortable and talking about in Sean's time was probably t J McConnell because he
was he was a favorite he was growing up. He's one of the favorite
sons. We got his story him talk exactly everybody else. What do you
know, how old did we get to know DeAndre? You didn't. You
didn't until he was until the last weekend. We had open practice or open
locker rooms at the US at the Vegas Vegas when he was. DeAndre has
a humor. He's such a humor. What who he was? His kid?
He wants to have fun, and unfortunately it's the fans that are missing
out. I mean, I think of all, you know, the stories
I did cover in the eighty eight team. You know, spent a whole
afternoon with Steve Ker at his apartment watching college football with him, with him
and Bruce Frasier, and we had lunch, and I spent the whole and
I was able to right a story about Steve Kernel that he went there no
questions and cook all those guys. That's why this community got to know those
guys. We don't know those guys. And again they pick who who we
get to talk to, no question. Here's another point, just real quick.
If I didn't lose, oh what if what if USC relinquishes or decides
Okay, maybe we went a little too far. They can't do that now
either, because if you have rules, better stick with those rules. And
now they can't undo it. No, they couldn't. Really, you know,
I didn't go lose my mind over it last night like you did,
but I just kind of I read it because I read the call him and
afterward overnight and then I said, I read more about the kid. It
was his first year on the job. You had you had a kid from
the Only Times, and everybody supported him. I should everybody in the business
is support him. Not the fans because the fans could and the fans are
always going to side with your team of course, the media or the bad
guy of course, of course. And I don't know why, but it
hit me kind of like, really, this is what we come Yeah,
but you know, and and and and again, Steve, you gotta remember
that the guys that we dealt with at the time that we were, you
know, covering sports like or like I didn't like my example of Dick Tomy.
All right, So Malvin Smith gets that he fires a shot at a
skate country, gets arrested. Uh, you know the whole thing. You
know, I go to Sunday morning. I have to get up on Sunday
morning go to his arrangement. Mark Lunsford was there. I walked in the
door. He goes He's like, oh no, but you know I didn't
Mark, Mark said, Mark said, I can't talk to you. I'm
just here because somebody has to be here support from Malviot. So so you
know, I talked to Dick, and I do the whole you know,
I do a story. Story comes out on Monday morning, and then I
see Dick on Monday afternoon and he goes, I really thought you were going
to rip us, and you didn't. You just I just you know,
it wasn't up to me to rip you. It was up to me to
report what happened. And that's all I did. I wasn't trying to say
Dick told me he's a bad coach because he got this guy who took a
gun to a skate country and took a shot the guy it was Greg who
was supposed to rip if he's a columnist, right, well, that was
my soul box and what it forever its worth. I completely agree with you.
And again, you know I mentioned my son. He's thirty years old.
This is the this is the media life he has lived. He did
not live the media life. Sure, this is how they always did things
in the ten years that he worked in the athletic department over there. You
know, where as he said, as they said, they are in charge.
You know, they run they run this show. They run the media
show. Now there's nothing any of us can do about it because of the
way they've like, well, the what do you think about it? Is?
Okay, I'm not sure if the kid can go and do his story,
he's still gonna work, do his jaws, make his calls. I
think the worst thing that could happen is is Okay. Now, out of
spite, I'm gonna be more observant, more eyes on the program doesn't make
sense, and be more of a pain in the ass because you did this
to me. What's the worst thing that happened to me? Provoke my recurrentials?
You already have, Yeah, you already have. Yeah, you want
to be a ship uh almost said it? Pain? You know, just
a bad dude. Yeah, I could be a bad dude. I mean
thinking in his way, but that's not his job. It's not And and
I look, and there are some reporters out there who do go over the
loss. Yes, you know, they do go over the line. And
and just like any in any other field, there's guys that you go,
that's a bad dude. This is a good dude. You know. You
and I you know we didn't, right and we still don't. Yeah,
Okay, there's no purpose, there's no there's no reason to you know,
I don't know if you're the you know the question that I when I asked,
when I asked Jed Fish about his running backs, thinking he starts that,
You know, I can't tell you that he's kind of joking, but
you know, it's kind of like you guys were just here trying to do
the best we can to report what's going on. And if you're gonna say
that I can't report on something that I saw that I saw, then we've
got a big problem. There is. Yeah, there is a problem.
Okay, Hey, let's talk real quickly about to our guests. All right,
Greg mckinstree, the second h head coach at katl High School. They're
three and one, first time in for first time there were three and oh
for the first time in one hundred years. He's going to join us.
We'll talk about how he's turning this program, that program around. And then
at four fifteen Bow Brack, who was the PA pH n X Phoenix the
Cardinals podcast. He's got a podcast does on the Cardinal. We'll just talk
to him about the Cardinals. I gotta ask him if I if I should
go get Kyler Murray because I need a backup qarterback and they and he's out
there in our fantasy league. Nobody's got him. So I gotta ask him
if he if I should go get good? All right, So we'll be
back with Greg mckinstree, the head football coach Katalin High School will be right
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on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. Hey, welcome back to I on the Ball
here on Fox. What's fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve Rivera. He's jakinsos Now
on the phone. We have coach Greg mckin street the second from Catalina.
How are you, coach? I'm doing good. How are you guys doing?
We're doing well. We're kind of curious. What's in the water at
Catalina. I just doing real well. Oh we you know, we just
have been kind of work in the process here the last three seasons and it's
actually starting the show and pay dividends there. Yeah. So I have to
ask you because I'm looking at your background. You're from the Midwest, you
went to went to school in Iowa, you coached, you coached over there.
How do you wind up in Tucson, Arizona? Tell me tell me
how you got here? Well, I was in two falls, South Dakota
area, and uh, I actually have a family down here. My mom
was living in Chandler of a couple of aunts and brother had lived down or
lived up in that area, and so I was trying to make my way
to get closer to them. And then my sister lives out in Las Vegas,
and so we're kind of all, you know, and I have a
brother lives in West Texas, so we they've all left Milwaukee or on this
side of the country. I was trying to get down here to get closer
to my family, and then also my wife's family, her parents had moved
down here around twenty nineteen, twenty eighteen, and so it was a good
fit. You know. I was trying to, you know, find some
coaching positions and jobs in the Arizona area, and then Tucson, you know,
and Catalina kind of came on the radar there. So so wait a
second, So, Greg, so your wife's parents are here in Tucson.
They are actually they were here for a little bit and then they actually wound
up moving up to Mesa. Okay, Okay, I was going to say,
coach, that long story. All you had to see is my wife
wanted to go you know, happy, happy wife, happy life. You
know, we talked about the whole time. So, so the Catlin And
job opens up a couple of years ago. Obviously a challenging job, as
there are a number of jobs like that in Tucson. What attracted you to
taking on that? You know, this challenge at a program that you know
hasn't done well for a lot of years, trouble with you know, difficulty
with some numbers and stuff. What made you want to do that job?
You know, I had a connected with the athletic director, Tim Bridges,
and you know, we really hit it off, and I thought that was
a good fit with him on a professional level as well as a personal level.
And then also Cataline is kind of like a one of the high schools
I had coached in the Midwest. It's kind of like Waterloo East High School,
and so it was kind of similar makeup. You know, we had
we didn't have too many whole bunch of kids there. Those kids kind of
came to work every day and we were actually able to get them playing some
good football. And my first year we actually got into the playoffs, which
we hadn't been into the playoffs in over a decade and stuff. So that
was a really good experience, and also the middle school that I was working
at at back in South Dakota and Foo Falls is just about the identicals as
far as the student demographics. And so I really meshed well out there in
South Dakota with those kids, could relate to them really well. And so
like the same group of kids here at Catalina. So so Jay, I'm
I'm always up for our challenge. So well you have one of you done
well? So Jay mentioned numbers. We've covered a few high school places here
that don't have any numbers in the Canneman play. So, so when you
first got to Catalina, what were your numbers and what are they now?
I want to say. When I was my first year, you know,
it was kind of odd for me and I showed up in Jil here in
summer workouts and I only have five kids out there. And then I was
like, oh man, you can even be able to have a season.
Uh. Once we kind of started official practice, we got some more numbers,
and then we finally got around to about twenty four twenty five kids,
and now it's kind of like almost a one eighty. You know. This
summer past summer, I had about twenty two kids consistently four days a week
for workouts, and this year we're probably about twenty eight on the number side,
and we still have some more kids that actually, you know, since
we've won, which really greatly helped out the morale around school. So I
have more kids that are actually still trying to come out for the football team
even now. So well, that's the that's the thing. I mean,
you get here and on, you know, just the numbers are an issue,
but then you have to create something, right, you have to get
these guys interested in this. You gotta get you know, let's say,
you know, winning always helps, but how do you go out and generate
interest and get you know, get kids to come out for the football team.
You know, like my first year I was you know, working in
the school definitely helped. And I tried to have a really personable type of
personality, being out going and engaging the kids. And you know, even
me and the athletic director would be in the lunch room just trying to go
and talk to kids to try to get them interested in football, engage their
interest and see if they might want to join the team. And I just
try to strike up conversations with kids in the hallway as I'm walking walking in
the class, or they might have stopped in my room for something, and
so just trying to be engaging with them and you and you're not. You
know, they need to and you don't work there, and you don't work
there, you work somewhere else. Uh. This year, I'm working over
at duel In Middle School, which is about five minutes away from Catalina.
We actually a lot of the kids go to they will leave that school and
come to Catalina. A matter of fact, I want to say about eight
of my players were enrolled there before in the last couple of years, so
that that helps. And also it's kind of funny because I want to say
probably about five or six of my players that have younger siblings that go to
that school. So right, so it's kind of a grassroots effort over there.
So you guys get off to a great start three, you know,
go three and oh didn't go so well last week. But just tell us
about you know, what's your team like? What you know? What what
do you what do you what's your makeup? What? What are you good
at? You know, we're we're right now. Our strength is our offense
and defensive line. We've put a lot of work into those guys over to
you know, now most of those guys are seniors and sophomore, so we've
put a lot of work until the last couple of years. And so I
always tell those guys, you know, how they perform is how our team
performs pretty much. But we've you know, it all starts over those that
off season period where you're working to get you know, working to get those
guys in shape for the season and for the rigors of the season and kind
of and and building that team bonding through workouts, doing some community things,
and so we're just trying to really get those guys to buy into the process
and trust our process. So you asked about what his background coming here,
right, Did you play ball at a certain level? Yeah, I actually
started I played ball when I was like started playing football, got at a
really uh in a league when I was seven years old, and then I
you know, I went to a pretty prestigious high school back in Milwaukee,
Wisconsin called Marquette University High School. They actually had just won seven hundred day
one or seven hundred and fifty third game last Friday. That's a whole bunch
and then you you. I saw you were at Ohio and then Northern Iowa.
Right, I was actually at a Northern Iowa. I went there and
then my h one of my coaches left, the head coach left, we
got new coaches in. One of our assistant coaches wound up there. So
I went over there and finished up by last year and stuff, and then
wound up coming back to Northern Iowa after playing arena football for a number of
years to Goo. Uh wound up going there to UH coach and then getting
my masters while I was there also coaching. So thanks, who'd you where'd
you play arena football with? Oh? I've man everywhere you know I was.
I played for Susity Bandits. I played for Tampa's Bay Storm, Green
Bay Blizzard talks the talents, Uh, Lincoln Lightning and then lost Angas Gladiators.
Also, Uh, there's the other team in the Indiana Indiana. They're
no longer in the league. So yeah, I spent uh about eight seasons
playing. We talked about that. Jay was so well, he was the
pr guy then the president of the local of the Tucson I'm just curious where
you've been with that eight years though, that's a long time to be to
be in the in the in the league. Say, because we talk about
that, though your dream continues, right, yes, you know, I
can't play anymore, so I do. The next best thing is which is
coaching? Sorry, what's been the bill in the game? We're around kids?
And what's been the best coal competitive nature? What's been the best thing
about about coaching here at Katalina And you know, being a part of all
this now, you know, for for you and then you know, what
do you see in the kids as as you go along? I say,
the best thing I see is actually these kids growing, you know, athletic
wise, socially and you know, academically. So I know when I first
came here, academics weren't really high on on on the athletics for our athletes
around the school. I used to say, they weren't. It wasn't a
top priority. I've tried to make it a priority within my team of being
a student first and an athlete second. And you know, I would say
what probably one of the biggest rewards is actually seeing where these kids started at,
you know, on the athletic field and seeing their growth and seeing them
have success and then enjoying that success. Yeah, yeah, no question,
no question. Yeah. So I wouldn't ask you this because you know,
Steve and I we you know, we're trying to get the coaches like you
on the show. We've had Phil Stewart over at at Marana, we had
Zach Nevill left Hope from a Tucson. It seems like there's this group of
coaches that are all you guys are kind of from the same place, and
I don't know other ways said teams age wise, background wise, that are
have been coming to Tucson to take over some of these programs that you know,
need guys like you. Is there any kind of lack of bedwood camaraderie
among the coaches that are here now, you know that are kind of maybe
new to Tucson and to the region, I should say, and kind of
going through some of the similar things, right, whether it's numbers or dealing
with the program that hasn't won in a while, or as you say,
academics, those kinds of things. Are you guys sort of in touch with
each other at all or everybody kind of working on their own kind of you
know a little bit of both. I would say, you know, during
off season, you have a lot more time to kind of reach out to
other coaches, stay in contact. You know. Coaching clinics are a big
place where guys get together and we talk, you know, especially Tuside High
coach you know, met him there this past spring at the coaches clinic.
You have a coaches clinic. We kind of got along well and talk,
you know, and every time I see him, I we go and talk.
You know. I just saw him this past Saturday. Talked with him
for a little bit, and then you know, kind of during the season,
everybody's kind there in their own little silo, right the lack of a
better term, just kind of focusing and grinding a trying to get their team
to be better. You know, what have you found out? We just
have a couple of minutes now and Jay kind of alluded to this. For
the kids, obviously they must walk a little higher now, taller because they're
they're having success. But what did you find in them that they didn't see
themselves. I want to say that that confidence and the fact that they could
be leaders, you know, if they applied themselves. Two kids that come
to mind is Corey Sanders and Ace Lewis. They're both linemen, offensive lineman,
defensive lineman. They really kind of stepped up this year, you know,
had some confidence. They went to some coming out of spring football.
You know, I'm kind of like, hey, you guys can do this
stuff. You know, you had this success last year in our last game.
Well let's take it and run with it. You know, you have
a tremendous upside to both of them, and so just kind of getting them
to see that confidence that they can kind of play with anybody. You know.
They went to the Northern Arizona camp that was kind of sponsored by FCA
this past summer, and they went there and had really, you know,
some some a lot of success I would say, as far as realizing how
good they could be and and their potential. And then they came back and
they've been leaders on the football team, leaders around campus. You know,
they actually kind of a spearheaded getting the sea kind of clubs started on our
campus here at Catalina. So really proud of those guys who were doing that
kind of stepping up in that regard and that's really it, right, I
mean, that's the reward for you. Yeah. You know, I would
say I've been working with kids in various capacities for the last you know,
fifteen plus years there. You know, especially during the off season playing and
reading football is always working with kids at rescues or at at a school in
some capacity, and around and coaching as well. So it's like, hey,
I like to see kids success. I have all this knowledge in my
head. I can pass it on to some kids and they can take it
and run with it and be successful on the field and off the field,
and after they graduate from high school or college. You know, that's that's
a reward for me. Well, it's great to see you doing that.
Yeah, well, coach, thanks you for your time. What's next?
What? What kind of game? Who have you got this? We are
playing uh tank AVERTI this Friday. Okay, that'll be a good test for
us. You know last year, last two years, we didn't do too
well against them, so I know our guys are pretty hungry, especially after
that lost last week, so they're anxious to come out and prove themselves there
this week. Super Well, thank you, thanks so much for coming on
the show. Coach. Oh, no problem, no problem there, appreciating
good luck to rest the way. Thank you anything you guys need any time
You want to talk, give me, give me a shout out there.
I'll do it when I need a motivation talking. You can coach, appreciate
it like right now. Well you know I got I got you real quick
before we go. I know we went along, but you know, I
look at it. You know, I called up their schedule from last year,
looking at their scores. I mean they were a really bad football team.
You know, they forfeited a couple of games. You know, they
got shut out a bunch of times. When you look at their schedule from
last year and the turnaround already, the Wood two have won three games this
year. Yeah, I mean Jed Fish didn't do this well. I mean,
you know they got a twenty eight nothing, sixty to nothing, fifty
four to nothing, forty eight to nothing, and now then all these scores
and now they come out, you know, win three straight. You know
not yeah, they got beat last week, but you know, to taste
the winning, you can tell that that's a big deal. Yeah, of
course, you know for cat you know Catalina, and that's a it's a
it's a it's a nice job to do that over there. So very good,
good, good on that. All right, let's take our breakwad come
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Gang, you know, getting back to you know, talking about the
Catalan football coach and some of the other programs here in town that are you
know, they're doing better because these guys are coming here to do this and
they're coming from everywhere, right, I mean, I mean, you know,
mckinsbury was in midwest South Dakota, you know, but you know you
had family here and you know you can come and find a place here,
and you know they're they're they're how I look, we appreciate that they're coming
here to do this kind of stuff. Sure, sure, making so then
Arizona football better yea as we speak. Yep, got Tank Averty this week.
Uh you know that with Jay Dobbins with your coach for what three years?
Yeah, at least a couple Yeah, yeah, okay, all right,
so what are we thinking this weekend? Steve uh with the Arizona Yeah,
I think they're gonna kill him the spreads with thirteen eleven and a half
of the last thing. I think it's thirteen. It could be maybe it
could be, could be. I think that again, all eyes will be
on Colorado and Oregon seeing if Oregon can kind of make them, uh make
him reality check. Yeah. I was following some stuff on on on uh
Twitter, social media and and uh both draft Kings and bet MGM are saying
that right now again, Colorado Oregon game is the most bet on game.
Sure already doesn't say which way. Uh no, you know I didn't see
that. No, it just says it's the most bet on game. But
yeah, well, either people believe in them or they don't believe in them,
and we'll see what happens, right, but now it is when the
conference season starts, and we'll see how good they're going to be. I
think that the most compelling game. What's the game for you? What's your
game? Uh? State game? Okay, oh god, I have to
pick that one. So I think the one, the one that's interesting to
be is Oregon State Washington State, Washington Sate at home, and they're a
dog, right, Washington State's dog. I'm looking at this right now.
I think I think Oregon State's a few points three point three, three,
three and a half. I'm here it is. Yeah, Oregon State is
a three point favor at Washington State. Yeah, Arizona is eleven and a
half. Thirteen. I'd like to better than thirteen. This is the Draft
Kings. Colorado was twenty one were Yeah, I think it was up over
twenty twenty one. Let me see, I'm trying to find that one.
U Sla Utah is another good game this week. That's another one. That's
another one. That's a Utah right giving four and a half, that's another
that's a good one. You had Alabama giving seven to Ole Miss, which
a lot of people thinking Almiss is gonna win, that a miss is give
him a good game. Alas a couple of times, Oregon is twenty one
twenty one. So unless you'd be a good game hunter, is it right,
Travis Hunter, he would probably have it down to about seventeen eighteen.
Yeah, well it was going into last weekend because there was already a line.
It was I think it was eighteen and a half going into the game.
When when before Travis under got that's what two and a half points that
it? Yeah, that it changed. Well, here we go with a
nitty gritty type of things. We'll see what Jetfish says tomorrow right before you
get to Stanford. I think they'll be fine on the road. What I
don't think there was a whole lot of fallout for the Dolora stuff. I
didn't hear the information, just that the information was out, and as we
said, it's something that they're going to take care of in January. So
you're kind of like, Okay, this happened, this case is still going
right, let's let's move it to uh you know, it's uh interesting.
You know, I use my my Wednesday lunch group as sort of a sounding
board on stuff, and everybody's pretty excited saying the same thing as you.
I'm not as confident of them killing Stanford. You know, I'm not gonna
I'm not gonna give the eleven and a half points. I'm just gonna stay
away from it. But you know, kind of a feeling that and part
of it the conversation was they've got all this depth, so they've got all
this competition so that you know, the second the second guy come in,
you're gonna keep playing hard, keep trying to impress. Totally because of that,
uh you know, they feel like they'll just go out there beat the
hell out of same. Totally agree, and what makes a better team.
It ms makes a team better competition having that kind of competition, right,
you know you not not that you want guys always looking over their shoulder,
no, but you want other guys pushing them to keep getting better. You
just made the analogy when we competed for the papers. What made you better?
What made us better? Yeah, it was only that you were out
there trying to get you a better story than me. And that's what makes
for better competition. And I did hate you sometimes. There were a few
times, I hope a bunch of times. But the funny thing is,
and I say this often during the LUTs times that I covered, when you're
when you have like Gilbert Arenas, Hey, some people left Ruben, Ruben
Douglas left. Uh, the kid from Iowa left, Uh, forget his
name now? Who trust him? From Yo? And he stayed for then
he got hurt. He got hurt, gonna crash Luke record, Luke record
because he saw Gilbert Arenas. Right. So so some guys stick around,
and you get better playing against Gilbert Renis, right. So then when he
leaves, you moving and move into the spot or Richard and and and and
Luke and all these guys, because you're playing against these guys exactly and they
move on, you get better. And that's something. And you still you
hear you, you hear that even now you know you hear guys talk about
you know this year is gonna be that example, playing I gotta play against
this guy every game. The guy that I got a guard in the in
the game isn't as good? Is it as good? Right? Right?
This year you're gonna see that, man, because they're gonna be deep,
they're gonna be talented a lot of spots, right, They're gonna, you
know what, They're gonna have some really hard games where you're gonna be able
to learn a lot about who these guys are. Right. And that again,
I was looking at that schedule. Again, you're not atone and everybody's
excited about that. Holy cow. Yeah, and again unfortunate that, Like
I think four of them are are neutral court games. But you know there's
one in Phoenix. N says you can't go to that one, but there's
one in Vegas. Is a little enticing to go to that for you?
On the December twenty third, Yeah, I mean, Merry Christmas is Steve,
you know, So, I mean it's I don't know, man,
it's a interesting, Uh, it's gonna be fine. It's certainly gonna be
fun to watch this watch his football basketball schedule unfolds. It's a Red and
Blue game a week from Friday. From Friday, I know, and I
ready, we're not even sure if we're gonna get to not ready, we're
not We're not sure we're gonna get Tommy. By that time I asked Nate
about about it, he said he wasn't sure. That Tommy's pretty busy.
Yeah, I guess we'll mention it because we had I think we had talked
about it on the air. But it doesn't look like we're gonna do the
usc thing, you know, for just things just aren't working now, Yeah,
either to go to the game or to go and be able to do
a thing. So it looks like we're gonna you know, well, miss
just it's just very busy. I mean, this is not your only job,
my only job. We have a lot of We have a lot of
things that we introduced. We think about going up to Vegas before the FAU
game, the twenty thirty twenty second? What day is that we gotta call?
We gotta call we gotta call it? All right? Well quick,
it's like Christmas. Hi, you're on there are and I on the ball.
Hey it's Richard. How you doing that? Richards? You guys,
I'm like Colorado on this Oregon game. I know everybody thinks that Oregan's gonna
blow them out. I don't believe that. I think that. I know,
without Travis Hunter, it's pretty it's kind of shaky looking. Do you
think Colorado's pretty beat up after what Colorado State did to him? But I
believe that Dion will have them fired up. I think they I think they'll
probably lose. But twenty one point spread is that's a lot, isn't it.
Yeah, it seems to me for a team that can score a lot,
right, So you think they'll cover, but you don't think they'll win.
Is that what you're saying? Well, that's correct. O beat my
instinct. I want him to win, so so Richard, I watch the
programs that we're not again. I don't pay attention like Jay does because I
just don't pay attention. So in your mind and give me a legit answer.
I mean, this is a serious question now, So you you're giving
us this information. How good are you doing? How good are you at
this? H not that good? Never mind take up this phone call.
That's not worth I did. I did pick him earlier, but I'm good
at the beginning of the year. This is easy if I believe the first
few weeks or the best time to pick it a winner. Yeah, well,
I think before it gets more modeled. I just I think it's earlier
in the year. I could be wrong about that too. Well. I'm
very happy with your boys from Oklahoma right now. They've been they've been killing
it, putting a lot of points on the board. So I'm happy with
anybody I know. But I'm on their bandwagon. Yeah about that exactly as
long as they cover Who cares? Hey, Richard, all right, that's
going Yeah, appreciated, fourteen point favorites at Cincinnati. At Cincinnati, I'm
taking my instinct down that is, it's going to be a pretty close game.
I'm taking Oklahoma again, just so you know. Yeah, I hear
you, Joy, I hear you know. We could go him out,
but you know, these people we go on the road fans Richard Rabbit,
who than an Oklahoma fan to say, what's your seen out of Riley?
A usc surprise. We're not surprised. Hey. By the way, I
do want to say I apologize for making jokes about Riley the other day on
radio on the radio show. We're happy because I read that report again and
he actually did have some serious problems so the family was terrorized. That's bad.
Okay, thanks Richard, Hey, Richard, we gotta gotta thanks for
calling. I'm riding the Sooners, man, I'm gonna stay on the Sooners,
all right, Uh all right, we're gonna go take our break.
We've got breaking news. Come back at the top of the hour. Sorry
about that, Steve. Steve's got something going on over here on the side,
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