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Yet. Hey, good afternoon, everybody.

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Welcome to I on the Ball here
on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm

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Steve Rivera. He's Jakins. Also, welcome to Wednesday show. I have

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one thing, Jay that's talked to
you about. Okay, he came in

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with some mysterious comment about the topic
that you had. Yeah, well,

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I'm hearing this yesterday. So what's
our bet with the USC Washington team?

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We bet? I bet. The
bet is that you picked USC to win

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the league. I picked Washington to
win the league. I was in at

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dinner. I think it was dinner, Yeah, dinner or whatever. I'll

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buy you that dinner. I'm not
sure I'm gonna pull for USC. And

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let me tell you why. Oh, I couldn't sleep last night for whatever

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reason. I got up at two. And you know when you when you're

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up at two, do you do
you start scrolling? Yeah? Yeah,

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so crazy, And I'm thinking I'll
go to sleep. Well, I didn't

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go to sleep. So then I
see all this stuff on Twitter about Lincoln

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Riley and the USC and the re
revoking of credentials. So then I read

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a column by one of the guys
that at the at the Orange Cannon Register,

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and I'm thinking, that's a that's
I use the word petty yesterday.

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I wish I could say the word. I really feel like saying, I'm

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here on the air, but it's
chicken, chicken, whatever, because because

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it doesn't make any sense. It
doesn't, man, Jay, it doesn't

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make any sense. The scenario that
was painted. He the reporter saw two

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guys talking before the press conference,
just on the side, and you saw

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one guy talking to you there.
Are you nervous? Did they tell you

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anything to say or not to say, you know, Bob, which of

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course you guys do we do you
prepare them? No? Great shakes me.

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And he put that in the story
that he said that big revelation right

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that they these games are trained to
say what they say, so that it's

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like me and maybe the scenario is
not the same, but I'm I'm I'm

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at the U A U A stadiums
uh for football stadium, and I see

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Jed walking with with his sid coming
to the press box, coming to the

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press press area, you know,
and he stumbles a little, he trips,

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right, he's carrying a little and
he trips, and and and so

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the next day that the story I
write is uh uh, jet fish trips

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on the jet fish tripped on the
turf, you know, Arizona Stadium.

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Biden be the last time he ever
does this with the football program. And

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then going to the success that he's
had. You meant to tell me,

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you need to tell me I can't
use that because it was not in the

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press conference, right, And that's
what what do reporters do for a living,

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The support and the report observed.
You see things, it's to me,

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it's unbelievable. It's it's it's well, in this case, I think

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it's partly the arrogance of the USC
football pros, right, it's you know,

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there's a few programs like that.
Notre Dame would be one, Ohio

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State, Michigan, you know,
Alabama. You know, it seems that

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say, we run the show,
we run the show as it relates to

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the media. We run the shows
that are relates to the conference. And

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they do that, and USC is
one of those schools. That that things

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say the things they can do that. So that's that's all it is,

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saying we're in charge. And you
know, I know, look, my

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son was an s idea to Arizona. I'm having this argument with him.

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He's he's on the side of a
USC on this, and what's this point?

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The point being that there are rules
that everybody's supposed to follow, and

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there are rules, and they said, but there are some rules that are

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stupid rules. And that's one of
them. That you say, I saw

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something and I can't report on that. If I see something, I get

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to report on that. Right.
If you see Jed Fish in an argument

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with one of his players outside the
press room, you're you're gonna say,

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sure, you saw that. Sure. And if they say you can't say

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that, I'm gonna say, go
f yourself. Well we did. We

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kind of ran across you and I
run across this. Back in the day,

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late eighties, right, we covered
dictomy, Right, we went to

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practices to observe. Right, there
were certain things that we couldn't rely and

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I can't even remember the specifics now
Jay injuries, things like injuries. It

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was really it was just injuring and
police schemes. Right, Well, here's

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here and here's here's an example of
that. All I understand. I remember

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when I was going to practice.
All I understood was, you know,

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you're not supposed to report on injuries, and but you're also not you know,

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if they run a double reverse,
you know, flee flicker, yadda,

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yadda, you're not supposed to say
that you saw that. When that

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week that Arizona switched from the wishbones
to what they called the eyebone before the

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U. I was a practice all
week. I just didn't notice it,

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pay attention to it. I didn't
see the change in the formation. And

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in the end Dick said it wasn't
a big deal. It's just we moved

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a guy over and that was that. But but but I got in trouble

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for not reporting. My boss said, how did you not report that?

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He said, I missed it.
I didn't see it. I just had

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to say I didn't see it.
They had Butch Henry and who was the

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yes idea at the time in the
media, said we've told reporters they are

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not allowed to report on stuff like
that. And I'm like, I never

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agreed to that. I agreed that
you know if somebody gets hurt. I

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mean, I go to see if
somebody got hurt. But if somebody gets

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hurt, yes, we're not supposed
to report on that. But you know

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that going into the game. Fine, But I got in trouble for not

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seeing that and not reporting it.
And then I got in and then you

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know, it was kind of like, did you agree to that if you

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saw something like that that you weren't
going to report that? I said no.

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I never said I wasn't. No, I was with you on that

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because I was there too, and
it was a big surprise to everybody they

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did what they did, and so
there are restriction. Do you want any

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recruiting thing with McDuff, Right,
But that's reagree, that's pretty and you're

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there for to get purpose to for
a story, right, I just have

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I don't know why I have an
issue with this, but to me,

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it's there against one and two.
You can't you can't do that. Yeah,

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with Steve. It's become that over
time, over the last let's call

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it ten years, with the with
the how much social media everybody does,

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whether it's a company, in an
athletics program, a university, you know,

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whoever, with all that that that
they they feel now that they want

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total control of the narrative, and
if you step outside of that, you

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know they want to they want to, you know, shred you about that.

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And you know, I mean,
Steve, I mean, how many

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times did we get not in trouble, but get in an argument or get

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you know, I mean again,
I told you, Luke didn't talk to

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me for years because of the last
the last basketball story I did, which

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is you know, when they got
beat would I went and I talked to

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Judd Bush and he gave me this
story and I wrote it, and somehow

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Luke thought I shouldn't have written that
he and he was mad at me for

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years over that. That's a that's
an extreme example of that particular time.

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But now it's become a point where
these programs and everybody really strategically tries to

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control what's out there about them.
Sure, and they want you and they

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don't want you to observe the other
stuff that's going on or reported. Well,

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let me say this, that's been
the case since the edge of time,

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end of time. People want positive. People want positive, But now,

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like you saying, the last ten
years or so, uh, people

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want positive all the time. Life
isn't like that. I mean, I

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mean, think about the amount of
time we now get with because they're trying

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to control they instead of where you
or I. When recovering the team,

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I said, I'm gonna do a
story on Darryl Lewis this week, and

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I'd go interview Darryl Lewis us,
right. And you didn't know that,

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right, And I didn't know who
you were interviewing. You know who your

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story petitions. Right now, It's
like they bring these two players and that's

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your story. Hated man, I
hate it. I hate it. That's

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why I don't ask any questions or
care to ask any questions, because my

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story is your story and your story
is my story and depends how well we

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write it. Right. You know, you know who, you know who

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the stories are about. You know. So there's gonna be a story coming

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up on Dalton Johnson, the safety
who's having you know, because everybody asked

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question about Dalton Johnson, asked questions
about Jacob Monnett. Those are the features

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that you can expect to see in
the media this week. You're previewing the

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airs Ona Stanford game. Whereas before
I didn't know who you were writing,

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and you didn't know what I was
writing until you saw it on Saturday morning.

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I neither I'm cussing you out or
you're cussing me out right, And

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you see, that was a good
story. I wish I had it,

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you know whatever. That's what the
good old Those are good old days of

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newspapers and and the business and and
that's gone. And you know who's missing

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out the readers, the readers and
the fans, the readers in the fan

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they're not getting, no question,
they're not getting, you know, the

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stories that are out there. Let
me say this because I've seen this in

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a number of times during the Sean
stuff, and that was the worst part

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of it. Sean limited his guys
to play. The only guy I really

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feel comfortable and talking about in Sean's
time was probably t J McConnell because he

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was he was a favorite he was
growing up. He's one of the favorite

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sons. We got his story him
talk exactly everybody else. What do you

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know, how old did we get
to know DeAndre? You didn't. You

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didn't until he was until the last
weekend. We had open practice or open

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locker rooms at the US at the
Vegas Vegas when he was. DeAndre has

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a humor. He's such a humor. What who he was? His kid?

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He wants to have fun, and
unfortunately it's the fans that are missing

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out. I mean, I think
of all, you know, the stories

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I did cover in the eighty eight
team. You know, spent a whole

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afternoon with Steve Ker at his apartment
watching college football with him, with him

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and Bruce Frasier, and we had
lunch, and I spent the whole and

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I was able to right a story
about Steve Kernel that he went there no

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questions and cook all those guys.
That's why this community got to know those

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guys. We don't know those guys. And again they pick who who we

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get to talk to, no question. Here's another point, just real quick.

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If I didn't lose, oh what
if what if USC relinquishes or decides

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Okay, maybe we went a little
too far. They can't do that now

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either, because if you have rules, better stick with those rules. And

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now they can't undo it. No, they couldn't. Really, you know,

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I didn't go lose my mind over
it last night like you did,

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but I just kind of I read
it because I read the call him and

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afterward overnight and then I said,
I read more about the kid. It

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was his first year on the job. You had you had a kid from

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the Only Times, and everybody supported
him. I should everybody in the business

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is support him. Not the fans
because the fans could and the fans are

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always going to side with your team
of course, the media or the bad

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guy of course, of course.
And I don't know why, but it

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hit me kind of like, really, this is what we come Yeah,

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but you know, and and and
and again, Steve, you gotta remember

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that the guys that we dealt with
at the time that we were, you

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know, covering sports like or like
I didn't like my example of Dick Tomy.

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All right, So Malvin Smith gets
that he fires a shot at a

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skate country, gets arrested. Uh, you know the whole thing. You

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know, I go to Sunday morning. I have to get up on Sunday

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morning go to his arrangement. Mark
Lunsford was there. I walked in the

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door. He goes He's like,
oh no, but you know I didn't

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Mark, Mark said, Mark said, I can't talk to you. I'm

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just here because somebody has to be
here support from Malviot. So so you

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know, I talked to Dick,
and I do the whole you know,

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I do a story. Story comes
out on Monday morning, and then I

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see Dick on Monday afternoon and he
goes, I really thought you were going

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to rip us, and you didn't. You just I just you know,

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it wasn't up to me to rip
you. It was up to me to

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report what happened. And that's all
I did. I wasn't trying to say

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Dick told me he's a bad coach
because he got this guy who took a

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gun to a skate country and took
a shot the guy it was Greg who

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was supposed to rip if he's a
columnist, right, well, that was

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my soul box and what it forever
its worth. I completely agree with you.

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And again, you know I mentioned
my son. He's thirty years old.

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This is the this is the media
life he has lived. He did

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not live the media life. Sure, this is how they always did things

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in the ten years that he worked
in the athletic department over there. You

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know, where as he said,
as they said, they are in charge.

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You know, they run they run
this show. They run the media

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show. Now there's nothing any of
us can do about it because of the

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way they've like, well, the
what do you think about it? Is?

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Okay, I'm not sure if the
kid can go and do his story,

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he's still gonna work, do his
jaws, make his calls. I

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think the worst thing that could happen
is is Okay. Now, out of

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spite, I'm gonna be more observant, more eyes on the program doesn't make

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sense, and be more of a
pain in the ass because you did this

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to me. What's the worst thing
that happened to me? Provoke my recurrentials?

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You already have, Yeah, you
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on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. Hey, welcome back to I on the Ball

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here on Fox. What's fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve Rivera. He's jakinsos Now

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on the phone. We have coach
Greg mckin street the second from Catalina.

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How are you, coach? I'm
doing good. How are you guys doing?

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We're doing well. We're kind of
curious. What's in the water at

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Catalina. I just doing real well. Oh we you know, we just

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have been kind of work in the
process here the last three seasons and it's

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actually starting the show and pay dividends
there. Yeah. So I have to

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ask you because I'm looking at your
background. You're from the Midwest, you

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went to went to school in Iowa, you coached, you coached over there.

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How do you wind up in Tucson, Arizona? Tell me tell me

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how you got here? Well,
I was in two falls, South Dakota

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area, and uh, I actually
have a family down here. My mom

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was living in Chandler of a couple
of aunts and brother had lived down or

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lived up in that area, and
so I was trying to make my way

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to get closer to them. And
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and so we're kind of all,
you know, and I have a

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brother lives in West Texas, so
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side of the country. I was
trying to get down here to get closer

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to my family, and then also
my wife's family, her parents had moved

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down here around twenty nineteen, twenty
eighteen, and so it was a good

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fit. You know. I was
trying to, you know, find some

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coaching positions and jobs in the Arizona
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and Catalina kind of came on the
radar there. So so wait a

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second, So, Greg, so
your wife's parents are here in Tucson.

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They are actually they were here for
a little bit and then they actually wound

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up moving up to Mesa. Okay, Okay, I was going to say,

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coach, that long story. All
you had to see is my wife

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wanted to go you know, happy, happy wife, happy life. You

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know, we talked about the whole
time. So, so the Catlin And

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job opens up a couple of years
ago. Obviously a challenging job, as

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there are a number of jobs like
that in Tucson. What attracted you to

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taking on that? You know,
this challenge at a program that you know

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hasn't done well for a lot of
years, trouble with you know, difficulty

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with some numbers and stuff. What
made you want to do that job?

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You know, I had a connected
with the athletic director, Tim Bridges,

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and you know, we really hit
it off, and I thought that was

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a good fit with him on a
professional level as well as a personal level.

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And then also Cataline is kind of
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I had coached in the Midwest.
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and so it was kind of similar
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we didn't have too many whole bunch
of kids there. Those kids kind of

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came to work every day and we
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good football. And my first year
we actually got into the playoffs, which

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we hadn't been into the playoffs in
over a decade and stuff. So that

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was a really good experience, and
also the middle school that I was working

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at at back in South Dakota and
Foo Falls is just about the identicals as

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far as the student demographics. And
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South Dakota with those kids, could
relate to them really well. And so

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like the same group of kids here
at Catalina. So so Jay, I'm

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I'm always up for our challenge.
So well you have one of you done

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well? So Jay mentioned numbers.
We've covered a few high school places here

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that don't have any numbers in the
Canneman play. So, so when you

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first got to Catalina, what were
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I want to say. When I
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it was kind of odd for me
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summer workouts and I only have five
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like, oh man, you can
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Uh. Once we kind of started
official practice, we got some more numbers,

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and then we finally got around to
about twenty four twenty five kids,

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and now it's kind of like almost
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summer past summer, I had about
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for workouts, and this year we're
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and we still have some more kids
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we've won, which really greatly helped
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have more kids that are actually still
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even now. So well, that's
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you get here and on, you
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but then you have to create something, right, you have to get

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these guys interested in this. You
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you know, winning always helps,
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interest and get you know, get
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the school definitely helped. And I
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personality, being out going and engaging
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me and the athletic director would be
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and talk to kids to try to
get them interested in football, engage their

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interest and see if they might want
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try to strike up conversations with kids
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the class, or they might have
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so just trying to be engaging with
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know, they need to and you
don't work there, and you don't work

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there, you work somewhere else.
Uh. This year, I'm working over

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at duel In Middle School, which
is about five minutes away from Catalina.

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come to Catalina. A matter of
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of my players were enrolled there before
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that that helps. And also it's
kind of funny because I want to say

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00:27:06.400 --> 00:27:10.039
probably about five or six of my
players that have younger siblings that go to

408
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that school. So right, so
it's kind of a grassroots effort over there.

409
00:27:12.920 --> 00:27:15.319
So you guys get off to a
great start three, you know,

410
00:27:15.480 --> 00:27:18.440
go three and oh didn't go so
well last week. But just tell us

411
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about you know, what's your team
like? What you know? What what

412
00:27:22.400 --> 00:27:26.000
do you what do you what's your
makeup? What? What are you good

413
00:27:26.079 --> 00:27:30.279
at? You know, we're we're
right now. Our strength is our offense

414
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and defensive line. We've put a
lot of work into those guys over to

415
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you know, now most of those
guys are seniors and sophomore, so we've

416
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put a lot of work until the
last couple of years. And so I

417
00:27:42.640 --> 00:27:47.240
always tell those guys, you know, how they perform is how our team

418
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performs pretty much. But we've you
know, it all starts over those that

419
00:27:52.240 --> 00:27:57.319
off season period where you're working to
get you know, working to get those

420
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guys in shape for the season and
for the rigors of the season and kind

421
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of and and building that team bonding
through workouts, doing some community things,

422
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and so we're just trying to really
get those guys to buy into the process

423
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and trust our process. So you
asked about what his background coming here,

424
00:28:18.839 --> 00:28:22.559
right, Did you play ball at
a certain level? Yeah, I actually

425
00:28:22.599 --> 00:28:29.000
started I played ball when I was
like started playing football, got at a

426
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really uh in a league when I
was seven years old, and then I

427
00:28:34.160 --> 00:28:38.039
you know, I went to a
pretty prestigious high school back in Milwaukee,

428
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Wisconsin called Marquette University High School.
They actually had just won seven hundred day

429
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one or seven hundred and fifty third
game last Friday. That's a whole bunch

430
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and then you you. I saw
you were at Ohio and then Northern Iowa.

431
00:28:52.440 --> 00:28:56.000
Right, I was actually at a
Northern Iowa. I went there and

432
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then my h one of my coaches
left, the head coach left, we

433
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got new coaches in. One of
our assistant coaches wound up there. So

434
00:29:03.759 --> 00:29:07.119
I went over there and finished up
by last year and stuff, and then

435
00:29:08.200 --> 00:29:11.640
wound up coming back to Northern Iowa
after playing arena football for a number of

436
00:29:11.759 --> 00:29:18.160
years to Goo. Uh wound up
going there to UH coach and then getting

437
00:29:18.200 --> 00:29:22.279
my masters while I was there also
coaching. So thanks, who'd you where'd

438
00:29:22.279 --> 00:29:30.039
you play arena football with? Oh? I've man everywhere you know I was.

439
00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:34.079
I played for Susity Bandits. I
played for Tampa's Bay Storm, Green

440
00:29:34.160 --> 00:29:42.880
Bay Blizzard talks the talents, Uh, Lincoln Lightning and then lost Angas Gladiators.

441
00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:52.079
Also, Uh, there's the other
team in the Indiana Indiana. They're

442
00:29:52.119 --> 00:29:56.160
no longer in the league. So
yeah, I spent uh about eight seasons

443
00:29:56.200 --> 00:30:00.799
playing. We talked about that.
Jay was so well, he was the

444
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:07.079
pr guy then the president of the
local of the Tucson I'm just curious where

445
00:30:07.119 --> 00:30:08.880
you've been with that eight years though, that's a long time to be to

446
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be in the in the in the
league. Say, because we talk about

447
00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:15.640
that, though your dream continues,
right, yes, you know, I

448
00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:19.079
can't play anymore, so I do. The next best thing is which is

449
00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:26.039
coaching? Sorry, what's been the
bill in the game? We're around kids?

450
00:30:26.079 --> 00:30:29.359
And what's been the best coal competitive
nature? What's been the best thing

451
00:30:29.440 --> 00:30:32.920
about about coaching here at Katalina And
you know, being a part of all

452
00:30:32.960 --> 00:30:36.440
this now, you know, for
for you and then you know, what

453
00:30:36.559 --> 00:30:40.799
do you see in the kids as
as you go along? I say,

454
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the best thing I see is actually
these kids growing, you know, athletic

455
00:30:45.559 --> 00:30:52.759
wise, socially and you know,
academically. So I know when I first

456
00:30:52.839 --> 00:30:59.319
came here, academics weren't really high
on on on the athletics for our athletes

457
00:30:59.359 --> 00:31:00.799
around the school. I used to
say, they weren't. It wasn't a

458
00:31:00.920 --> 00:31:07.079
top priority. I've tried to make
it a priority within my team of being

459
00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:11.720
a student first and an athlete second. And you know, I would say

460
00:31:11.799 --> 00:31:15.359
what probably one of the biggest rewards
is actually seeing where these kids started at,

461
00:31:15.599 --> 00:31:18.839
you know, on the athletic field
and seeing their growth and seeing them

462
00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:22.720
have success and then enjoying that success. Yeah, yeah, no question,

463
00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:26.920
no question. Yeah. So I
wouldn't ask you this because you know,

464
00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:30.160
Steve and I we you know,
we're trying to get the coaches like you

465
00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:33.480
on the show. We've had Phil
Stewart over at at Marana, we had

466
00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:37.160
Zach Nevill left Hope from a Tucson. It seems like there's this group of

467
00:31:37.279 --> 00:31:41.640
coaches that are all you guys are
kind of from the same place, and

468
00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:47.880
I don't know other ways said teams
age wise, background wise, that are

469
00:31:48.200 --> 00:31:51.599
have been coming to Tucson to take
over some of these programs that you know,

470
00:31:51.880 --> 00:31:56.720
need guys like you. Is there
any kind of lack of bedwood camaraderie

471
00:31:56.880 --> 00:32:00.799
among the coaches that are here now, you know that are kind of maybe

472
00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:06.440
new to Tucson and to the region, I should say, and kind of

473
00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:09.599
going through some of the similar things, right, whether it's numbers or dealing

474
00:32:09.680 --> 00:32:13.240
with the program that hasn't won in
a while, or as you say,

475
00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:16.240
academics, those kinds of things.
Are you guys sort of in touch with

476
00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:22.000
each other at all or everybody kind
of working on their own kind of you

477
00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:22.920
know a little bit of both.
I would say, you know, during

478
00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:25.920
off season, you have a lot
more time to kind of reach out to

479
00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:30.160
other coaches, stay in contact.
You know. Coaching clinics are a big

480
00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:35.240
place where guys get together and we
talk, you know, especially Tuside High

481
00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:39.759
coach you know, met him there
this past spring at the coaches clinic.

482
00:32:39.839 --> 00:32:44.039
You have a coaches clinic. We
kind of got along well and talk,

483
00:32:44.240 --> 00:32:45.720
you know, and every time I
see him, I we go and talk.

484
00:32:45.839 --> 00:32:50.519
You know. I just saw him
this past Saturday. Talked with him

485
00:32:50.519 --> 00:32:53.039
for a little bit, and then
you know, kind of during the season,

486
00:32:53.079 --> 00:32:55.920
everybody's kind there in their own little
silo, right the lack of a

487
00:32:57.039 --> 00:33:00.680
better term, just kind of focusing
and grinding a trying to get their team

488
00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:05.519
to be better. You know,
what have you found out? We just

489
00:33:05.640 --> 00:33:07.680
have a couple of minutes now and
Jay kind of alluded to this. For

490
00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:14.759
the kids, obviously they must walk
a little higher now, taller because they're

491
00:33:14.799 --> 00:33:16.880
they're having success. But what did
you find in them that they didn't see

492
00:33:16.960 --> 00:33:24.359
themselves. I want to say that
that confidence and the fact that they could

493
00:33:24.400 --> 00:33:29.920
be leaders, you know, if
they applied themselves. Two kids that come

494
00:33:29.960 --> 00:33:35.000
to mind is Corey Sanders and Ace
Lewis. They're both linemen, offensive lineman,

495
00:33:35.039 --> 00:33:37.160
defensive lineman. They really kind of
stepped up this year, you know,

496
00:33:37.359 --> 00:33:42.920
had some confidence. They went to
some coming out of spring football.

497
00:33:43.480 --> 00:33:45.160
You know, I'm kind of like, hey, you guys can do this

498
00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:49.440
stuff. You know, you had
this success last year in our last game.

499
00:33:50.759 --> 00:33:52.920
Well let's take it and run with
it. You know, you have

500
00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:55.960
a tremendous upside to both of them, and so just kind of getting them

501
00:33:57.000 --> 00:33:59.559
to see that confidence that they can
kind of play with anybody. You know.

502
00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:05.480
They went to the Northern Arizona camp
that was kind of sponsored by FCA

503
00:34:06.519 --> 00:34:08.719
this past summer, and they went
there and had really, you know,

504
00:34:08.840 --> 00:34:14.280
some some a lot of success I
would say, as far as realizing how

505
00:34:14.320 --> 00:34:17.880
good they could be and and their
potential. And then they came back and

506
00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:23.079
they've been leaders on the football team, leaders around campus. You know,

507
00:34:23.159 --> 00:34:28.519
they actually kind of a spearheaded getting
the sea kind of clubs started on our

508
00:34:28.599 --> 00:34:30.960
campus here at Catalina. So really
proud of those guys who were doing that

509
00:34:31.159 --> 00:34:34.840
kind of stepping up in that regard
and that's really it, right, I

510
00:34:34.880 --> 00:34:40.400
mean, that's the reward for you. Yeah. You know, I would

511
00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:45.480
say I've been working with kids in
various capacities for the last you know,

512
00:34:45.639 --> 00:34:50.639
fifteen plus years there. You know, especially during the off season playing and

513
00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:53.559
reading football is always working with kids
at rescues or at at a school in

514
00:34:53.639 --> 00:34:59.000
some capacity, and around and coaching
as well. So it's like, hey,

515
00:34:59.079 --> 00:35:00.719
I like to see kids success.
I have all this knowledge in my

516
00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:05.679
head. I can pass it on
to some kids and they can take it

517
00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:08.199
and run with it and be successful
on the field and off the field,

518
00:35:08.199 --> 00:35:13.000
and after they graduate from high school
or college. You know, that's that's

519
00:35:13.000 --> 00:35:15.800
a reward for me. Well,
it's great to see you doing that.

520
00:35:15.920 --> 00:35:16.960
Yeah, well, coach, thanks
you for your time. What's next?

521
00:35:17.119 --> 00:35:20.639
What? What kind of game?
Who have you got this? We are

522
00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:25.559
playing uh tank AVERTI this Friday.
Okay, that'll be a good test for

523
00:35:25.719 --> 00:35:30.800
us. You know last year,
last two years, we didn't do too

524
00:35:30.840 --> 00:35:34.119
well against them, so I know
our guys are pretty hungry, especially after

525
00:35:34.199 --> 00:35:38.119
that lost last week, so they're
anxious to come out and prove themselves there

526
00:35:38.199 --> 00:35:42.519
this week. Super Well, thank
you, thanks so much for coming on

527
00:35:42.639 --> 00:35:46.159
the show. Coach. Oh,
no problem, no problem there, appreciating

528
00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:51.679
good luck to rest the way.
Thank you anything you guys need any time

529
00:35:51.719 --> 00:35:53.480
You want to talk, give me, give me a shout out there.

530
00:35:53.639 --> 00:36:00.840
I'll do it when I need a
motivation talking. You can coach, appreciate

531
00:36:00.960 --> 00:36:06.000
it like right now. Well you
know I got I got you real quick

532
00:36:06.039 --> 00:36:07.719
before we go. I know we
went along, but you know, I

533
00:36:07.800 --> 00:36:08.840
look at it. You know,
I called up their schedule from last year,

534
00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:12.639
looking at their scores. I mean
they were a really bad football team.

535
00:36:13.039 --> 00:36:15.239
You know, they forfeited a couple
of games. You know, they

536
00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:19.400
got shut out a bunch of times. When you look at their schedule from

537
00:36:19.480 --> 00:36:22.639
last year and the turnaround already,
the Wood two have won three games this

538
00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:28.000
year. Yeah, I mean Jed
Fish didn't do this well. I mean,

539
00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:30.920
you know they got a twenty eight
nothing, sixty to nothing, fifty

540
00:36:30.960 --> 00:36:34.000
four to nothing, forty eight to
nothing, and now then all these scores

541
00:36:34.400 --> 00:36:37.039
and now they come out, you
know, win three straight. You know

542
00:36:37.159 --> 00:36:38.760
not yeah, they got beat last
week, but you know, to taste

543
00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:42.079
the winning, you can tell that
that's a big deal. Yeah, of

544
00:36:42.159 --> 00:36:45.519
course, you know for cat you
know Catalina, and that's a it's a

545
00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:47.079
it's a it's a nice job to
do that over there. So very good,

546
00:36:47.119 --> 00:36:50.800
good, good on that. All
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They welcome back to one on the Buck

614
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Hearl Fox Sports Fortune fifty. I'm
Steve Rava, He's chickens as we have

615
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ten minutes. If you guys want
to give us a quick call, we'd

616
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appreciate it. Two old four one
six seven four four zero. Love to

617
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hear from you, yep, we
would love to hear from you. Yep.

618
00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:01.079
Gang, you know, getting back
to you know, talking about the

619
00:42:01.119 --> 00:42:06.639
Catalan football coach and some of the
other programs here in town that are you

620
00:42:06.719 --> 00:42:08.440
know, they're doing better because these
guys are coming here to do this and

621
00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:12.039
they're coming from everywhere, right,
I mean, I mean, you know,

622
00:42:12.360 --> 00:42:15.280
mckinsbury was in midwest South Dakota,
you know, but you know you

623
00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:17.480
had family here and you know you
can come and find a place here,

624
00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:22.400
and you know they're they're they're how
I look, we appreciate that they're coming

625
00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:25.800
here to do this kind of stuff. Sure, sure, making so then

626
00:42:25.840 --> 00:42:30.559
Arizona football better yea as we speak. Yep, got Tank Averty this week.

627
00:42:30.760 --> 00:42:36.039
Uh you know that with Jay Dobbins
with your coach for what three years?

628
00:42:36.239 --> 00:42:39.000
Yeah, at least a couple Yeah, yeah, okay, all right,

629
00:42:39.119 --> 00:42:45.679
so what are we thinking this weekend? Steve uh with the Arizona Yeah,

630
00:42:45.840 --> 00:42:49.239
I think they're gonna kill him the
spreads with thirteen eleven and a half

631
00:42:49.280 --> 00:42:51.480
of the last thing. I think
it's thirteen. It could be maybe it

632
00:42:51.519 --> 00:42:53.679
could be, could be. I
think that again, all eyes will be

633
00:42:53.719 --> 00:43:00.400
on Colorado and Oregon seeing if Oregon
can kind of make them, uh make

634
00:43:00.480 --> 00:43:07.679
him reality check. Yeah. I
was following some stuff on on on uh

635
00:43:07.480 --> 00:43:14.920
Twitter, social media and and uh
both draft Kings and bet MGM are saying

636
00:43:14.960 --> 00:43:20.840
that right now again, Colorado Oregon
game is the most bet on game.

637
00:43:20.960 --> 00:43:24.960
Sure already doesn't say which way.
Uh no, you know I didn't see

638
00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:30.320
that. No, it just says
it's the most bet on game. But

639
00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:32.119
yeah, well, either people believe
in them or they don't believe in them,

640
00:43:32.320 --> 00:43:35.920
and we'll see what happens, right, but now it is when the

641
00:43:35.960 --> 00:43:37.320
conference season starts, and we'll see
how good they're going to be. I

642
00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:40.519
think that the most compelling game.
What's the game for you? What's your

643
00:43:40.559 --> 00:43:45.360
game? Uh? State game?
Okay, oh god, I have to

644
00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:46.800
pick that one. So I think
the one, the one that's interesting to

645
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be is Oregon State Washington State,
Washington Sate at home, and they're a

646
00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:55.280
dog, right, Washington State's dog. I'm looking at this right now.

647
00:43:55.840 --> 00:43:59.840
I think I think Oregon State's a
few points three point three, three,

648
00:44:00.199 --> 00:44:02.320
three and a half. I'm here
it is. Yeah, Oregon State is

649
00:44:02.320 --> 00:44:07.480
a three point favor at Washington State. Yeah, Arizona is eleven and a

650
00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:09.880
half. Thirteen. I'd like to
better than thirteen. This is the Draft

651
00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:15.880
Kings. Colorado was twenty one were
Yeah, I think it was up over

652
00:44:15.039 --> 00:44:20.199
twenty twenty one. Let me see, I'm trying to find that one.

653
00:44:21.239 --> 00:44:24.159
U Sla Utah is another good game
this week. That's another one. That's

654
00:44:24.199 --> 00:44:29.400
another one. That's a Utah right
giving four and a half, that's another

655
00:44:29.840 --> 00:44:31.840
that's a good one. You had
Alabama giving seven to Ole Miss, which

656
00:44:31.840 --> 00:44:36.599
a lot of people thinking Almiss is
gonna win, that a miss is give

657
00:44:36.679 --> 00:44:38.679
him a good game. Alas a
couple of times, Oregon is twenty one

658
00:44:39.679 --> 00:44:44.079
twenty one. So unless you'd be
a good game hunter, is it right,

659
00:44:44.320 --> 00:44:46.280
Travis Hunter, he would probably have
it down to about seventeen eighteen.

660
00:44:46.519 --> 00:44:52.440
Yeah, well it was going into
last weekend because there was already a line.

661
00:44:52.880 --> 00:44:55.280
It was I think it was eighteen
and a half going into the game.

662
00:44:55.320 --> 00:45:00.920
When when before Travis under got that's
what two and a half points that

663
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:02.960
it? Yeah, that it changed. Well, here we go with a

664
00:45:04.039 --> 00:45:07.920
nitty gritty type of things. We'll
see what Jetfish says tomorrow right before you

665
00:45:07.000 --> 00:45:13.320
get to Stanford. I think they'll
be fine on the road. What I

666
00:45:13.320 --> 00:45:16.119
don't think there was a whole lot
of fallout for the Dolora stuff. I

667
00:45:16.199 --> 00:45:21.320
didn't hear the information, just that
the information was out, and as we

668
00:45:21.440 --> 00:45:23.159
said, it's something that they're going
to take care of in January. So

669
00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:27.320
you're kind of like, Okay,
this happened, this case is still going

670
00:45:27.880 --> 00:45:31.559
right, let's let's move it to
uh you know, it's uh interesting.

671
00:45:31.679 --> 00:45:36.280
You know, I use my my
Wednesday lunch group as sort of a sounding

672
00:45:36.360 --> 00:45:38.440
board on stuff, and everybody's pretty
excited saying the same thing as you.

673
00:45:38.760 --> 00:45:44.159
I'm not as confident of them killing
Stanford. You know, I'm not gonna

674
00:45:44.199 --> 00:45:46.079
I'm not gonna give the eleven and
a half points. I'm just gonna stay

675
00:45:46.079 --> 00:45:51.639
away from it. But you know, kind of a feeling that and part

676
00:45:51.679 --> 00:45:54.199
of it the conversation was they've got
all this depth, so they've got all

677
00:45:54.239 --> 00:46:00.480
this competition so that you know,
the second the second guy come in,

678
00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:04.599
you're gonna keep playing hard, keep
trying to impress. Totally because of that,

679
00:46:04.960 --> 00:46:07.480
uh you know, they feel like
they'll just go out there beat the

680
00:46:07.559 --> 00:46:09.559
hell out of same. Totally agree, and what makes a better team.

681
00:46:09.800 --> 00:46:14.400
It ms makes a team better competition
having that kind of competition, right,

682
00:46:14.559 --> 00:46:16.679
you know you not not that you
want guys always looking over their shoulder,

683
00:46:16.920 --> 00:46:21.000
no, but you want other guys
pushing them to keep getting better. You

684
00:46:21.159 --> 00:46:24.400
just made the analogy when we competed
for the papers. What made you better?

685
00:46:24.519 --> 00:46:27.679
What made us better? Yeah,
it was only that you were out

686
00:46:27.719 --> 00:46:30.719
there trying to get you a better
story than me. And that's what makes

687
00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:34.679
for better competition. And I did
hate you sometimes. There were a few

688
00:46:34.679 --> 00:46:37.679
times, I hope a bunch of
times. But the funny thing is,

689
00:46:37.840 --> 00:46:42.599
and I say this often during the
LUTs times that I covered, when you're

690
00:46:42.679 --> 00:46:45.440
when you have like Gilbert Arenas,
Hey, some people left Ruben, Ruben

691
00:46:45.480 --> 00:46:50.719
Douglas left. Uh, the kid
from Iowa left, Uh, forget his

692
00:46:50.840 --> 00:46:53.199
name now? Who trust him?
From Yo? And he stayed for then

693
00:46:53.199 --> 00:46:57.960
he got hurt. He got hurt, gonna crash Luke record, Luke record

694
00:46:58.159 --> 00:47:00.480
because he saw Gilbert Arenas. Right. So so some guys stick around,

695
00:47:00.519 --> 00:47:04.199
and you get better playing against Gilbert
Renis, right. So then when he

696
00:47:04.320 --> 00:47:07.639
leaves, you moving and move into
the spot or Richard and and and and

697
00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:12.000
Luke and all these guys, because
you're playing against these guys exactly and they

698
00:47:12.079 --> 00:47:14.679
move on, you get better.
And that's something. And you still you

699
00:47:14.800 --> 00:47:16.280
hear you, you hear that even
now you know you hear guys talk about

700
00:47:16.679 --> 00:47:20.679
you know this year is gonna be
that example, playing I gotta play against

701
00:47:20.719 --> 00:47:22.400
this guy every game. The guy
that I got a guard in the in

702
00:47:22.480 --> 00:47:25.079
the game isn't as good? Is
it as good? Right? Right?

703
00:47:25.280 --> 00:47:28.920
This year you're gonna see that,
man, because they're gonna be deep,

704
00:47:29.079 --> 00:47:32.280
they're gonna be talented a lot of
spots, right, They're gonna, you

705
00:47:32.320 --> 00:47:36.440
know what, They're gonna have some
really hard games where you're gonna be able

706
00:47:36.440 --> 00:47:38.840
to learn a lot about who these
guys are. Right. And that again,

707
00:47:38.880 --> 00:47:42.880
I was looking at that schedule.
Again, you're not atone and everybody's

708
00:47:42.920 --> 00:47:45.280
excited about that. Holy cow.
Yeah, and again unfortunate that, Like

709
00:47:45.360 --> 00:47:49.239
I think four of them are are
neutral court games. But you know there's

710
00:47:49.280 --> 00:47:51.920
one in Phoenix. N says you
can't go to that one, but there's

711
00:47:51.960 --> 00:47:55.639
one in Vegas. Is a little
enticing to go to that for you?

712
00:47:55.760 --> 00:47:59.840
On the December twenty third, Yeah, I mean, Merry Christmas is Steve,

713
00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:02.960
you know, So, I mean
it's I don't know, man,

714
00:48:04.039 --> 00:48:07.000
it's a interesting, Uh, it's
gonna be fine. It's certainly gonna be

715
00:48:07.039 --> 00:48:12.639
fun to watch this watch his football
basketball schedule unfolds. It's a Red and

716
00:48:12.679 --> 00:48:15.360
Blue game a week from Friday.
From Friday, I know, and I

717
00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:17.480
ready, we're not even sure if
we're gonna get to not ready, we're

718
00:48:17.519 --> 00:48:22.039
not We're not sure we're gonna get
Tommy. By that time I asked Nate

719
00:48:22.079 --> 00:48:23.800
about about it, he said he
wasn't sure. That Tommy's pretty busy.

720
00:48:23.960 --> 00:48:27.639
Yeah, I guess we'll mention it
because we had I think we had talked

721
00:48:27.639 --> 00:48:29.960
about it on the air. But
it doesn't look like we're gonna do the

722
00:48:30.280 --> 00:48:34.679
usc thing, you know, for
just things just aren't working now, Yeah,

723
00:48:34.960 --> 00:48:37.480
either to go to the game or
to go and be able to do

724
00:48:37.559 --> 00:48:39.079
a thing. So it looks like
we're gonna you know, well, miss

725
00:48:39.239 --> 00:48:43.199
just it's just very busy. I
mean, this is not your only job,

726
00:48:43.280 --> 00:48:45.239
my only job. We have a
lot of We have a lot of

727
00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:47.760
things that we introduced. We think
about going up to Vegas before the FAU

728
00:48:47.880 --> 00:48:52.800
game, the twenty thirty twenty second? What day is that we gotta call?

729
00:48:52.800 --> 00:48:55.039
We gotta call we gotta call it? All right? Well quick,

730
00:48:55.360 --> 00:48:59.480
it's like Christmas. Hi, you're
on there are and I on the ball.

731
00:49:00.440 --> 00:49:04.360
Hey it's Richard. How you doing
that? Richards? You guys,

732
00:49:04.639 --> 00:49:08.679
I'm like Colorado on this Oregon game. I know everybody thinks that Oregan's gonna

733
00:49:08.679 --> 00:49:13.119
blow them out. I don't believe
that. I think that. I know,

734
00:49:13.320 --> 00:49:15.800
without Travis Hunter, it's pretty it's
kind of shaky looking. Do you

735
00:49:15.880 --> 00:49:21.800
think Colorado's pretty beat up after what
Colorado State did to him? But I

736
00:49:21.960 --> 00:49:23.920
believe that Dion will have them fired
up. I think they I think they'll

737
00:49:24.000 --> 00:49:28.000
probably lose. But twenty one point
spread is that's a lot, isn't it.

738
00:49:29.039 --> 00:49:30.480
Yeah, it seems to me for
a team that can score a lot,

739
00:49:31.239 --> 00:49:35.519
right, So you think they'll cover, but you don't think they'll win.

740
00:49:35.840 --> 00:49:38.320
Is that what you're saying? Well, that's correct. O beat my

741
00:49:38.400 --> 00:49:43.199
instinct. I want him to win, so so Richard, I watch the

742
00:49:43.239 --> 00:49:45.079
programs that we're not again. I
don't pay attention like Jay does because I

743
00:49:45.119 --> 00:49:49.320
just don't pay attention. So in
your mind and give me a legit answer.

744
00:49:49.360 --> 00:49:52.000
I mean, this is a serious
question now, So you you're giving

745
00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:54.559
us this information. How good are
you doing? How good are you at

746
00:49:54.639 --> 00:50:01.119
this? H not that good?
Never mind take up this phone call.

747
00:50:01.280 --> 00:50:10.000
That's not worth I did. I
did pick him earlier, but I'm good

748
00:50:10.039 --> 00:50:14.199
at the beginning of the year.
This is easy if I believe the first

749
00:50:14.239 --> 00:50:16.199
few weeks or the best time to
pick it a winner. Yeah, well,

750
00:50:16.639 --> 00:50:20.800
I think before it gets more modeled. I just I think it's earlier

751
00:50:20.800 --> 00:50:22.159
in the year. I could be
wrong about that too. Well. I'm

752
00:50:22.280 --> 00:50:25.920
very happy with your boys from Oklahoma
right now. They've been they've been killing

753
00:50:25.960 --> 00:50:29.239
it, putting a lot of points
on the board. So I'm happy with

754
00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:35.719
anybody I know. But I'm on
their bandwagon. Yeah about that exactly as

755
00:50:35.719 --> 00:50:37.679
long as they cover Who cares?
Hey, Richard, all right, that's

756
00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:43.760
going Yeah, appreciated, fourteen point
favorites at Cincinnati. At Cincinnati, I'm

757
00:50:43.800 --> 00:50:46.039
taking my instinct down that is,
it's going to be a pretty close game.

758
00:50:46.440 --> 00:50:50.519
I'm taking Oklahoma again, just so
you know. Yeah, I hear

759
00:50:50.599 --> 00:50:52.119
you, Joy, I hear you
know. We could go him out,

760
00:50:52.199 --> 00:50:59.039
but you know, these people we
go on the road fans Richard Rabbit,

761
00:50:59.599 --> 00:51:01.719
who than an Oklahoma fan to say, what's your seen out of Riley?

762
00:51:01.800 --> 00:51:07.320
A usc surprise. We're not surprised. Hey. By the way, I

763
00:51:07.440 --> 00:51:09.880
do want to say I apologize for
making jokes about Riley the other day on

764
00:51:10.039 --> 00:51:15.880
radio on the radio show. We're
happy because I read that report again and

765
00:51:15.000 --> 00:51:21.199
he actually did have some serious problems
so the family was terrorized. That's bad.

766
00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:24.719
Okay, thanks Richard, Hey,
Richard, we gotta gotta thanks for

767
00:51:24.800 --> 00:51:30.239
calling. I'm riding the Sooners,
man, I'm gonna stay on the Sooners,

768
00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:31.800
all right, Uh all right,
we're gonna go take our break.

769
00:51:31.840 --> 00:51:37.880
We've got breaking news. Come back
at the top of the hour. Sorry

770
00:51:37.880 --> 00:51:39.960
about that, Steve. Steve's got
something going on over here on the side,

771
00:51:40.039 --> 00:51:45.000
but we'll be back. Take your
calls. Breaking news, all kinds

772
00:51:45.000 --> 00:51:46.480
of stuff going on. Then we've
got bo Brack. We're gonna talk some

773
00:51:46.599 --> 00:51:50.360
cardinals in the second hour, so
be sure to stick around for all of

774
00:51:50.400 --> 00:51:51.159
that. We'll be right back.

