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Welcome to soft core History. What
is up? Welcome back to soft core

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History. I am your host for
the week, Rob Fox. I am

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joined as always by Dan Richester and
Jake Goldman. Are we recording? I'm

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not drinking alcohol to day, and
you know what it shows? It does.

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I I haven't been I haven't made
you guys laugh once off sickly already.

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Oh Mike, yeah, I believe
you're going through withdrawals. I'm shaking.

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Rob's trembling, right. Yeah,
it's actually nice and you're not good.

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Uh No, we're just recording at
noon instead of at night, so

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I figured you don't have to see
my kids later. They're not asleep yet.

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I might want to stay sober until
dinner. Yeah. Also, it's

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kind of like brunch rest. Really, this feels like it's got brunch energy.

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It can typically I just I just
think of brunch as like a joyful

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even booze or not. I like
eating breakfast feeds midday. So this is

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like a trailer park brunch for me. Then, because I'm drinking an energy

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drink, so I'll just pour some
vodka in it. I guess you're giving

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up so quick. Yeah, Well, if we're doing for brunching. But

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I only I don't have champagne.
Babe, I know I'm pisted drun orange

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juice. Clear alcohol doesn't count.
Yeah, clear alcohol doesn't count. That's

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fine for you, but it's true. But also it's like you imagine,

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just like you roll back over to
home. It's like, Babe, I

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know I wasn't gonna drink, but
Jake said it was brunch, so so

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now I'm hammered. I was the
worst ever. Was trying to hide to

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accidentally taking an edible at work from
my wife. When I got home and

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we were like walking the baby,
I was like a freak. Wow,

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Like I was like Frankenstein walking to
try and seem sober I did. Was

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that terrifying for you? Yeah?
I imagine for you different old old office.

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Oh oh, he was hitting twenty
five on two ninety. Yeah,

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that's even worse. Yeah, like
from here it's not too but god,

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getting on the old tarf in general, that was like the most accident prone

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street in the world. God damn
it. That was the worst day.

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I was like, oh cool,
CBD, gummy, and then next to

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him was a crackhead just sprinting past
him. Yeah, but that was actually

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I was going forty at that point. He was just on a lot of

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crack. He was the most crack. Yeah. Uh, anyway, before

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or watch alongs for different historical movies
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part three of them watch with it? Yeah, Hanks Spielberg situation for

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World War Two. Who I haven't
even heard of this, Yes you have,

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I've sent you the trailer. I
didn't watch it. Oh god damn

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it. All right, it was
all the time that I just I'm like,

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oh, I'll watch that later.
I get a million other note of

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connections, can we talk about just
how most of your interactions with old friends

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is just sharing memes now yep,
And it's like I don't want to be

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involved with this I I haven't so
many chats. I mean, I guess

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that's the only communication I have with
some of a couple like a few fraternity

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brothers or high school friends. But
is this the main or the Patreon?

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This is main? Okay, so
oh yeah, you just talked about Patreon.

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Anyway, Yeah, I have I
think I have like a conversation with

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a couple of friends where the memes
are very niche to us, Right,

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it works better. Yeah, that's
fine. But when it's just see because

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what that is too, by the
way, is our group text are what

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our dad's chain emails were. That's
all it is. Because sometimes my dad

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would send me a funny joke that
you know, he got through his uncle

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or brother, my uncles, his
brother's like chain emails. Yeah, and

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it was just like like a naughty
limerick from the fifties and listen. Totally

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fine to kind of keep those conversations
with like five or even seven of your

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closer friends. Yeah, but man, there's some fringe friends that's in a

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lot of memes that's very complete,
strangers that share a ton of like just

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rapid fire, and it's like,
man, I don't know what to tell

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you. I I want to mute
you. I like, I like a

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well, a tasteful meme. I
don't if you do it all the time,

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then I'm like, all right,
it kind of loses. It's no

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offense appeal, no offense. Bosh, you make the best. I'm just

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saying. At some point sharing memes
and you being good at gifts, is

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it just means you're like great at
quoting anchor man, Yes, that is

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it. I still prefer to the
fucking douchebags that just quote books all day

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or podcasts. Yeah, podcasts,
podcast I actually don't even I'll hear all

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my podcast stuff from TikTok, so
it's condensed, right, Yeah, it's

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just the greatest. You can follow
us on Instagram and TikTok. By the

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way, it's soft cooreistry. Also
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is like key to getting us up
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It is not a meritocracy in any
way, nor should it be. I

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agree, cheat the system. Yeah, in fact cheating life. Uh it's

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the American way. You ain't cheating, you ain't trying, and nobody ever

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pays for it. Yeah. Whenever
somebody cheats, it's always you reap the

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rewards. Usually it's your Michigan is
right now, you don't believe to be

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not to be taught overly topical.
But that was their adversity that they went

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through. I loved that spin on
that. That was great. Fuck off

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all right, man? So is
the sign stealing? It's all for you?

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And uh, we're here to talk
about that a little bit today.

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If you ain't cheating, you ain't
trying, and you might as well just

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fucking cheat every time every time?
Uh we do? You know I hate

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to kind of like beat this drum
over and over again, or like go

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to this well over and over again. But we you talk about like religion

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and Catholicism a lot on here,
because me and Dan are Catholic and you're

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Jewish, and those are easily two
of the three funniest religions on Earth.

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What's the third one? Islam?
Yeah, Like Buddhism isn't that funny to

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be? Hinduism's we're gonna do a
Hinduism episode and a little bit, and

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it's pretty funny man like modern stuff. But at least origins Shoism got pretty

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funny in the forties. Yeah,
we typically tiptoe around the third one,

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though we try, we try our
best. We try to be more informative

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than poke at it. Yep,
you just don't hit a wasp just with

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a bat. You don't need to
take that chance. No, I do

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still love that genies are are fied
Islamic cannon, like they're looking up.

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We did an episode about genies.
Genies are Islamic cannon and they're real.

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They're real man. Anyway. Uh, we are talking about Catholicism today though,

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because it was really not necessarily I
didn't want to do it about the

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Catholic Church or anything like that.
It was more just about medieval warfare.

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But since the Catholic Church ran fucking
everything in the Middle Ages, everything ran

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through the Catholic Church in the Middle
Ages, and everything ran through the Pope,

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so kind of hard not to have
the pope involved, at least,

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I mean, he's directly involved in
this, but at least even on the

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fringes, you know, the church
is going to have something to say.

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Yeah, the church got something to
say. That's their fucking We're about to

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get a third pope in our like
last decade. Right, wait, we're

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on our third pope in our lifetime, not last time or la last decade.

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Yeah, wait, what's going on
with Francis? I think he wants

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to retire? What Yeah, he'll
be the second street even our popes into

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the grave like supposed to. That's
like dating from the throne. Like everyone's

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like, don't do that, which
that Dutch lady just did? I think

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right? That Also, that's no
one gives a shit ride that no one

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even knew you were there. Yeah, no one knew you were you were.

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They were like so phased out by
the time, like addoicating is almost

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a joke. It's like what do
you even do? Like it's waste like

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respect to the Brits because they still
hold it down. Like everyone's taxes there

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pay for those people's lifestyle. It's
incredible that they've managed to stay on that.

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I have so much respect for them, and everyone just just want to

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be rude, it's truly, but
they own it, right, like that's

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their fucking property, like legally,
even if they don't even if you rip

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their crown off. The parliament is
at the behest of the queen. It's

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like at the pleasure of the queen
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Like it's she can say it's over. It would be a really weird

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moment. Or not the queen.
I guess the king got a king again.

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Yeah, but uh, that's another
thing we're gonna see too. We're

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gonna have like three different heads of
monarchy in our lifetime, which isn't very

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common. No, well, if
you go further than enough back, it's

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actually held it down. Yeah.
She was the longest rain I think,

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yeah, for sure, because like
no one was going for her throat.

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Yeah, I know that, you
know anymore at that point? Actually,

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yeah, funny if someone usurped them
just to have like their current position,

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that would be incredible. I just
want to chill this life. You're telling

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me Elizabeth hasn't off somebody personally.
I there's one person in particular she might

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have taken out. I know who, someone she wished she could have killed.

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Probably that's the person I'm thinking of, Diana we're talking about. Oh

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yeah, yeah, but I know
another one she probably wishes she could have

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cursed son Andrew. Yes, yeah, thank god. She did buy a

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lot of beanie bit like baby stock. After Diana's just like she's like,

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hey, make a bear, make
a bear, Make a purple, make

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a purple. All right. She
wasn't even royalty when she died, but

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this episode she wore an Eagles jacket
once. She did because she liked to

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pretend to slum it go birds.
She did like to churn it slummet uh,

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shaking hands with guys with aids wearing
Eagles jackets, big bi, going

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back to your hotel suite. Her
aesthetic, though, it is actually vibes.

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I love her everything she wears.
That's like half of a rowing blazers,

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this fucking thing. Now. Well
yeah, but her aesthetic is the

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exact same as John Dudas they go
look at fits, well, they look

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like each other. So today we're
talking about the second Council of the Lateran.

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It's in eleven thirty nine and it
was called by Pope Innocent. Second,

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why is this council notables mostly not
except for one weird canon. You

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announce canons at the or like certified
canons whatever something like that at these councils

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and I think they're twenty nine of
them, and the last one was jammed

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in there, slid in there at
the end like a Friday News dump,

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you know what I mean. There's
one thing you didn't want them to see.

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Well, you kind of wanted them
to see it, but it was

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just like it was almost like it
was it's pork. Yeah, you know

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what I mean. Yeah, exactly, it's it's pork. You're jam and

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in on a mega bill. Yeah, yeah, And uh so it banned

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Canon twenty nine. I think is
Cantoy nine banned the use of ranged weapons

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crossbows, long bow slings, et
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Oh that's gonna be war heard,
well, make it worse, make

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it hard for some people. Yeah. Would you rather die from a boat

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or a sword? Depends? Truly
depends. They're both awful. True,

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you're getting stabbed one way or the
other. If if if I have a

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guaranteed death, can I pick if
it's a sword, I want to be

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behind. Well, where we talked
about on another episode, how beheading isn't

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necessarily a one. Yeah, that's
true, depending on how many executions they

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had that day. I want a
ned stark beheading, like just one quickie.

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Yeah, big sword strong man.
Yeah yeah. Uh. You were

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still, by the way, allowed
to use these on Muslims and anyone that

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hope team to anyone excommunicated anything like
that, you know, not not other

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Christians. You do it in God's
name and especially not other Catholic And you

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don't want to hurt the crossbow manufacturers
either. That's just unfair. That's bad

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for the economy. Yes, yeah, you don't want to hurt industry like

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that. Well, so there there
were some other stuff in this council too

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that that we'll get to because it's
related. But this is the main thing,

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and it's interesting. Do you wonder
why why the pope outlawed range weapons

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against other Christians? I was going
to ask something how to have spurret this.

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I'm sure it's not out of the
kindness of his heart. I imagine

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a local blacksmith got into his ear. We need more swords, just trying

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to hold businesses down, just trying
to get like some back alley deals.

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Yeah, the sword guy's sword,
big sword is gotten hurt from big crossbow.

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Yeah, and big swords like you
know, it's like big, it's

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like big horse buggy. You know, it's like something's gonna replace you.

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Brother. There was a I read
a theory. It was like a prediction

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for the I think it was from
the nineteen twenties, about the twenty twenties,

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oh wow. And it was like
a bunch of like scientists, philosopher's

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prognosticators. It was in some newspaper
that guy if somebody shared on Twitter and

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police side, Yeah, this thing
with this guy. We've done an episode

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on his thread. But awesome.
But anyway, one of the predictions was

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that like they said cars would take
over over like horses and buggies like fully,

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but like they went like they overshot
the runway by a mile. They

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were like, not only will cars
take over, but horses will be extinct.

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We're gonna be like that was there, like we're gonna run out of

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oil. It's like we're gonna just
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no, the opposite. It was
just like we're not gonna need them and

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they're just gonna die. I guess
you don't need to breed them. It

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checks out. Actually, does kind
of know that you mentioned it. They

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only survived because of race horse in
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I guess there's not. There's lots
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though, yeah, there's no way
less. Maybe probably totally way less.

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And also like if you didn't have
the equestrian shit, like, it's not

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like we just have that many wild
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Yeah, I guess ranching and stuff
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like thousands of arts in a city
being pulled. I mean, they had

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so many horses back then, as
we talked about in previews, out sad

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that they like, got to make
sure this electric chair works, Bring in

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a horse. There's any horse.
We gotta so many horses. Just go

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get a horse. You gotta mentione. A lot of medicine was practiced on

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horses too. Oh god, I'm
actually watching The Gilded Age on HBO right

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now. I heard that's sick.
It's fantastic. You would love it.

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I think you would love it too, Dan. But uh, the the

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one thing, my biggest knock on
it. Everyone's in Manhattan, you know,

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using horse and buggy. The streets
are way too clean. You gotta

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remember in that time shipping everywhere everything
was ship road. Yeah, like just

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poop poop, dog shit in the
roads of Europe. Oh really in Portugal

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maybe maybe in that dirty country.
Germany had clean ass roads, but that

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was in Lisbon. Porto was like
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big city, immaculate. No,
that's European. Big cities are insane for

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that. You're just like how they
just pay people to clean it. They

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pay people to clean it and also
people are when it's but it was so

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hard to find a trash can.
I didn't understand. It's you. They

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eat their garbage. People don't know
this about Europe. They eat all their

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paper garbage. Well, when you're
part of the Paris Climate Agreement. Yeah,

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actually people didn't know. They pork
barrels and stuff your fucking receipts everything

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eating bugs. Try eating receipts,
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and Ukraine right tough times. What
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they used to make, well they
do call paper getting that bread. I

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mean in Germany during the Wimar Republic, they were making fucking bread out of

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sawdust. So and uh yeah in
uh Waterloo just outside they were making bread

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out of humans, bread out of
boats. We learned that on our pictureon.

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So there's some theories about why the
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other Christians. According to the Pope, did he have a weekend? It

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was to make battles less bloody.
He had a Maybe we canned politically,

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and we'll get to that. There
are some more conspiracy minded people, however,

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I went kind of down a a
Twitter thread on this. This is

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what spurred my interest in this.
Who think the Pope may have banned range

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weapons for more underhanded conspiracy ish minded
reasons? Like what, I'm truly curious

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motive is here? Well, who
used range weapons? Twinks? Warriors kind

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of keep the pores out of the
war. So it was like the original

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what I keep the pores out of
the wars? The original gun control?

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Yes, that's that's this person's theory. Uh, poors, poor people,

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peasants, whatever they were, the
ones manning the bows and arrows and crossbows

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and stuff on the slings on the
battlefield, they would stand a chance in

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a revolution. The rich guys,
well, not even that, they don't

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even go that far. The rich
guys were probably dying. They could kill

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the rich guys on horses in armor. Yeah, the knights, the lords,

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the people who paid a big fat
tithe to the church. Yeah,

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to build more churches and expand church
power and fight crusades. I mean that's

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a fair point. Oh so it
was like the anchor put ban and golf.

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They're like, we need the stars
to win all these scrubs that are

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using the long putter like Kig and
Bradley to win a fucking major championship.

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Get out of my face. Yeah, no, no, no, you

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can't have that. Yeah, these
guys start using goober putters and like,

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now these goobers are built on stars. Okay, it's true, it's true.

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Yeah, you don't want to see
some dirty, filthy fucking peasant being

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like got him. But you want
to see a guy, a literal knight

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in shining armor just cut down a
night and through, Yeah, cutting off

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the heads of some guy you can't
read. If Robert the Lion Heart just

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got got Richard Richard, You're think
I'm thinking of his brother, Oh Rob

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the Tiger Heart. No, Ryan, Dude, Richard Ryding and Rob are

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they lesser known brothers. There's also
Reggie. Yeah, well he's long forgotten.

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So essentially, what they wanted these
poors to do, they were like,

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all right, it's enough of picking
off fucking big boys. Okay,

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you're gonna pick up a spear that
you probably had to fucking carve the day

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before the battle. Here's a rock
and a stick. You're gonna fight that

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way, and you're gonna let these
knights who give us money get their number

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just cut you down. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, we're getting Really that's

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a Actually, it's like, remember
when the NBA banned his own defense.

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I was, I was just about
to say, it's like whenever the NFL

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is like, all right, we're
making past interference even tougher to not and

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you're not allowed to touch the quarterback. Yeah yeah, Like that's actually that

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Arguably that's the best is you like
they're roughing the passer on every fucking call.

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That is essentially what happened. So
the poor people had to like gloriously,

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you know, get slaughtered by the
rich knights in battle. That's so

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the theory goes. Obviously, though, if you know anything about you know,

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European warfare, right after that,
all the way up to present day,

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no one fucking listened. Yeah no, they crossbows, they had everything,

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still used everything, they actually still
used all of it. They actually

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made a semi automatic crossbow. The
day after, they're like, you know

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what, faster, that's the French, I believe, right. I mean

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the Battle of Agincourt three hundred years
later, and that was one literally by

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longbows that the British were shooting at
the French. Now granted the English,

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oh no, and the English were
still hadn't left the church yet, I

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believe during the battle as course,
So because they left in the fifteen hundreds,

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you guys really fumbled that bag so
fucking hard. Oh my god,

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the whole world would be Catholic.
How do we We didn't know. We

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didn't know France was stronger. We
thought France was the horse to back,

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and it wasn't. I don't need
to go into the France rant. We

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backed the Catholic Church backed the wrong
horse. That's why you wonder why Rob

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hates France. This is why the
world would be Catholic if it weren't for

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your own fault. I mean,
ironically, Spain got us most of our

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numbers. They got us a continent
and a half. Yeah, Span and

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Portugal. Yeah yeah, Spain and
Portugal the two like most useless, Like

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they stopped being powers before the United
States even existed, basically, like Spain

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was a shell of itself by the
time of the American Revolution. Good and

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then by the time we fought him
in eighteen ninety eight or whatever. Good

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Lord, they were they were trash. Yeah, but they were too busy

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discovering stuff? Were they? There
were side questing too hard? They didn't.

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They forgot the story. They forgot
the main quest, which is be

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the best at it. I think
they just kind of got their come up

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and for being by far the meanest
colonizers cutting off five we talked about with

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Wolverine. Got the guys. They
were outsource and stuff too, like Columbus.

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Yeah, he's Italian. Fucking couldn't
even do it themselves. An Italian

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shipping out a sailing out of Portugal, I believe, I thought. I

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believe he was under the Spanish flag, and Magellan from Portugal actually visited the

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town he was from, but sailed
under span as well. They have beef

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Magellan. They don't like Magellan in
fucking Portugal. He's a train. He

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hitah, he hit the portal Uh. He left at Palos de la from

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Terra, which I think is probably
Spanish. Yeah, that is a Spanish.

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He didn't leave from Portugal. He
he did come back to Lisbon.

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Oh maybe that's what I was thinking, but then went back to Spain.

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But because it's right there, Yeah, it's the easiest doc that hit.

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Uh So no one listened to this
obviously. They kept using bows and arrows

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the entire fucking time, like they're
like, man, I love you Jesus,

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but I really can't afford to lose
a war. Who can Yeah,

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it's like, uh, it's it's
you're kind of tying my hands here.

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Yeah, I don't know what you
want. But but the thing too was

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you would be excommunicated if you did
this. That's if you're if you're if

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your armies did this, if you
if you were an officer who ordered it.

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Sometimes, if you do lose a
war, you only get one,

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like Carthage, you lose that Second
Panic War. It's over. Yeah,

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end of a dynasty. That's why. If you're gonna lose, you lose

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small, right like the US you
lose Vietnam or something like that, and

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you don't even really lose it,
you know, like not on the battlefield.

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You just like people are like,
I don't want to do this anymore.

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Perception loss yeaeah. We we didn't
like get in Vietnam. We just

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stopped invading with Iraq. In Afghanistan, it was not like we were like,

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oh my god. It was just
people were just like, I don't

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want to spend money on this.
I don't know. The Afghans kind of

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dunk on us. I know they
dunk. Yeah, but then like I

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get to go, like get in
my car and like, you know,

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my wife can leave the house.
Well they're living that life too now,

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getting in the car going to work. Yeah, they hate it because you

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know why, you want to ride
in the back of your truck with your

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homies, you and your boys hanging
out smoking SIGs in the truck. That's

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fun. Yeah, that was the
good That was the good life. Unloading

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let into the sky. Yeah,
it's like maybe you see something you gotta

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shoot out. Hopefully you don't.
You just get to hang with your boys.

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There's got to be some of them
that are like invade Pakis eh or

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somewhere shittier. Pakistan's got nukes.
Maybe don't. Maybe probably wouldn't want to

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do it. I would probably literally
just be like all right, glass,

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Yeah, I don't care. Yeah, no, one's gonna stop us either,

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even in the US would be like, Okay, we are not getting

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in it, man, Ah,
don't do that again. We'll sinction the

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shit out of you. Yeah,
but we're not gonna stop it. Well,

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and we'll still send you a though. Also, so they used all

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this stuff. Stealth doesn't matter?
So why include Cannon twenty nine in the

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second council at the later on?
Why didn't have the council? Pope Innocent

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had some problems politically, chiefly among
them that there were more than a few

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people who were like, you're not
the fucking pope. Oh we had another

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pope. There was a pope,
anti pope and an anti pope. So

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yeah, people were like, not
my pope, tales old, it's so

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funny. I just want to actually
wait, can we make that bumper stickers?

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And then has to have pope not
my pope? That would solve to

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so many different demographics for so many
different reasons. All right, we might

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need to get that much good.
Especially wait, if Francis is retiring soon

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has taken my pope? Whats up
next? I don't even care if you

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can work for Bennett Transit, Like, there's so many bleep this idea out

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until we make it. Yeah,
yeah, don't steal this. Yeah.

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So there were some papal election deniers
after Innocent was elected, and these election

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deniers they weren't wrong to be like
rigged or that's just fucked up, because

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it was. It was totally rigged. It was completely rigged. So Pope

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Honoreus the Second died in eleven thirty
and Innocent was very quickly elected pope by

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just six cardinals. So Innocent not
so innocent after all. I think he

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named himself that to be like,
how good I do it? It's in

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my name? Yeah, do you
just Britney spears us? Not that innocent?

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Damn, he was not that what
I was going for, but slipped

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a little subliminal Brittany, and though
that actually retired from music. So I

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was really expecting to come back,
britt Yeah. I know that might be

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the titlest episode now, not that
Innocent the second, not not bent the

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second. Yeah. So he was
quickly acted by the by six cardinals led

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by the Papal Chancellor Hamrick, and
he was inaugurated, initiated whatever the fuck

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the following day, sworn in the
following day, all the other cardinals,

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because obviously the pope was elected by
the College of Cardinals, were like,

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what the fuck, that's not how
that works. That it's not even a

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quorum. You just ct six of
them, just got six dudes, called

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it a rule man. One was
a squire too. It was weird.

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Yeah, you just put him in
red ropes. It's told about a vote.

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It's like fraternity when it's like,
all right, get the bare minimum.

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We need to be going to ram
something through today. We've done that

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before, we probably have to.
Yeah. Uh so they went. The

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other cardinals went and immediately elected and
a Kleitus, the second Cleatus Anta Cletus,

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and he's the anti Cleatis Anacletus.
I went to homecoming with her Anta

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Clidas. Isa. You probably did
in central Florida, did you? No?

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I didn't. Did you know anyone
named Cletus in Central Florida? I

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think I've never met a Cleatis.
I think I by the time I would

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have been meeting people, the Simpsons
probably killed it from happening. Yeah,

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definitely met. I'll have to think
of some there's some real Southern names.

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The Simpsons is buried that name.
Yeah, it's done. It is.

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They really I mean, like almost
as thoroughly as Hitler buried Adolf did the

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Simpsons Bury Kletis couple of still out
there. There's a Dolph Dolf well young

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Dolph marked alright, p it's true. And then there's Dolph Lungden. He's

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still holding it down. Yeah,
no one. No one's gonna tell him

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not to, that's the thing.
No one's gonna call him out until Dolph

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Longdon. His name's bad. I
don't think it is bad. I love

404
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,640
I love Dolf. He's like tofer
Grace, you know what I mean?

405
00:27:59,079 --> 00:28:03,960
Yeah, no, this Chris yeah, same build. Yeah, yeah,

406
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,759
they have a lot in common.
Forget. It's just funny to like pick

407
00:28:06,759 --> 00:28:11,039
a different part of your name.
Yeah, like just call me Ober oh

408
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,720
bear, yeah, oh Bear.
I mean that's basically my friend. That

409
00:28:14,759 --> 00:28:18,119
Tilford. Grace has kind of skirted
the uh Danny Masterson stuff because he wasn't

410
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:22,480
friends with him now yeah he was. He like like sniffed it out earlier.

411
00:28:22,559 --> 00:28:23,680
Yeah, so this guy's a piece
of shit. All of them were

412
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,039
like like, bang, sixteen year
olds will with Baldorama. I don't know

413
00:28:27,039 --> 00:28:32,039
how he's not in jail. He
was only fucking Disney stars who were under

414
00:28:32,039 --> 00:28:34,400
eighteen. Yeah, yeah, do
you remember when they're an evergreen statement?

415
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,319
Remember when we were in high school
and like all the fucking sophomore girls in

416
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,960
our class would date twenty two year
olds, twenty three year olds. They

417
00:28:41,039 --> 00:28:44,759
never did that. They would they
would get like nineteen year olds. That

418
00:28:44,839 --> 00:28:48,279
just delco Is that just the I
knew one high school girl data college guy,

419
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,759
and by that like they didn't d
Like I knew a sophomore girl that

420
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,880
dated a guy that started going to
community college like the year after, and

421
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,599
that was a little weird and we
were like, that's kind of like on

422
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,119
the fence there because she's like fifteen
and your nineteen. What was weirder was

423
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:11,599
my freshman year these like two college
sophomores that were like local, they hung

424
00:29:11,599 --> 00:29:14,519
out with us all the time.
That's weird. That was really Well,

425
00:29:14,599 --> 00:29:17,720
if they're not related to another kid
at the party, yeah, it's like

426
00:29:17,759 --> 00:29:22,240
if it's not a big brother situation
or big sister situation is very strange with

427
00:29:22,319 --> 00:29:26,720
us. My name would be cob
cop Golden. I like that, the

428
00:29:26,799 --> 00:29:37,279
old cob Anal Annual Annual Annual,
Annie Annie Neil Yeah, and then my

429
00:29:37,359 --> 00:29:41,880
last name rhyme's with a certain word
that people love to kind of spell out

430
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:49,440
register REGs no Jester. I don't
know close. I can't even guess a

431
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,559
molester. Oh Regesterester the molester,
how that works? You really not make

432
00:29:53,599 --> 00:29:56,400
those teachers. You don't give those
vibes, never never have one. I'm

433
00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,039
a good man. You. I
mean you look like someone who watched Sound

434
00:30:00,039 --> 00:30:03,519
of Freedom and is looking for Mo
Lester's to beat up. Yeah, you

435
00:30:03,599 --> 00:30:06,160
really do. You're like fire up
the wood Shipper. I mean I was

436
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,319
looking at that list. I'm going
through all the documents. They have nine

437
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,799
pages. I can it begins and
ends at Stephen Hawking. There's a coloring.

438
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,680
I don't care who else is on
that, because that's there's no beat

439
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:22,240
in Stephen Hawkin. He got out. And honestly, if it was like

440
00:30:22,279 --> 00:30:25,880
an op, you know, like
like to to throw everyone off, like

441
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,240
the agency or whatever was like just
put Stephen Hawking on there, people be

442
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:33,359
so fixated on that. Also,
think about anything else. Somebody tweeted,

443
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:34,240
was that you that sent it to
us? Yes, where it's just like

444
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,799
if you got raped by Stephen Hawkin, that's on you. Yeah, you've

445
00:30:37,799 --> 00:30:41,680
got molested by Stephen Augen. That's
on you like the computer get you.

446
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,799
I saw a sketch today that was
like talking about it and they're like,

447
00:30:45,799 --> 00:30:48,839
what was he do? There's like, I don't know if someone's sucking on

448
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:59,319
his USB. But anyway, so
Antaclidus uh was elected by all the other

449
00:30:59,359 --> 00:31:03,680
cardinals. Anacle coincidentally came from a
family that was enemies with the papal Chancellor

450
00:31:03,759 --> 00:31:11,000
Hamrick supporters. So the little uh
you know, Verona Romeo, Capulets and

451
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:17,960
Romulins whatever the fuck? Uh Shakespeare? Yeah, I remember the other name

452
00:31:18,079 --> 00:31:23,319
is Capulets and and and whatever.
Now I can't remember it either. I

453
00:31:23,359 --> 00:31:27,680
have no idea what you're talking about. And Juliet the Mona Hues Yeah yeah,

454
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:32,200
yeah, yeah, yeah right,
why not? Yeah, I'm pretty

455
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,640
sure it's the Mona Hughes. Yeah, haven't read that since high school?

456
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:41,920
Yeah yeah yeah, Montague and and
Capulate. So anyway, Innocent was forced

457
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,880
to flee Rome and he eventually ended
up in France, where he sought out

458
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,720
and received the support of Bernard of
Clairvo. You heard of this guy,

459
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,480
You know this guy? I haven't
Bernie. You know this guy. I

460
00:31:52,559 --> 00:31:59,000
feel like you should because we've talked
about his his group, his group he

461
00:31:59,039 --> 00:32:04,079
founded the Knights Temple. Oh this
guy, yeah, Bernard of Clairvaux.

462
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:09,279
Yeah, the Kings of the Holy
Roman Empire and England backed UH backed H

463
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:14,920
and France backed Innocent as well.
Once he got to France, Anacletus was

464
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:19,680
now declared an anti pope, and
UH Innocent actually declared him as much like

465
00:32:19,839 --> 00:32:23,799
officially at the Council of Pisa,
a different council Pisas and Leaning Tower,

466
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:29,359
UH and all Anacletus and all of
his supporters were this might be important.

467
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:35,799
Excommunicated mm hmm. They throw those
out so often. You can get yeah,

468
00:32:35,839 --> 00:32:37,799
you can get put back in after
your ex communicator. Happens all the

469
00:32:37,799 --> 00:32:42,480
time. Medieval two totally like being
suspended indefinitely. Yeah, pretty much.

470
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,480
What who's the last person to be
does? Do? Ex Communications happen a

471
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,880
lot? Still? I feel like
they never happened, Like, was Shinad

472
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:52,079
O'Connor like the last person or no, you can well she wasn't even Catholic,

473
00:32:52,079 --> 00:32:54,759
will she? Yeah? I think
she grew up Catholic. Oh and

474
00:32:54,839 --> 00:33:02,079
Irish. Well, there's also Protestants, the last persons to publicly encore and

475
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:10,480
publicly just be ex communicated was archbishop
Swiss Archbishop Marcel Lefevre. When was that

476
00:33:10,799 --> 00:33:15,839
nineteen ninety Damn, so it's been
a minute. We got soft, we

477
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,640
have gotten solft. Oh wait,
twenty first century now, as a bunch

478
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,160
of people would Execunitz okay, probably
just like bad people though. Yeah,

479
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:28,480
he was just like a local journalist. Yeah, you're talking bad. Why

480
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,839
are you digging up the catacombs?
You know? Stop it? Also he

481
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,160
oh man, so this is actually
the last guy to be ex communicated.

482
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:45,720
His father, Ramone Guidetti of the
Diocese of Livorno in Tuscany. He was

483
00:33:45,759 --> 00:33:52,599
excommunicated by his bishop Simon Juicti in
January twenty twenty four. Damn we got

484
00:33:52,599 --> 00:33:55,920
one this year. Yeah. Following
year, a New Year's Eve address shared

485
00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:00,880
online in which he called Pope Francis
an anti pope. Oh fuck, this

486
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,839
is very relevant. I was gonna
say, just sheerly for his name,

487
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:12,400
just how fucking bibbity bobbity it is
the dynast know, you know, thanks

488
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,400
give me a gate to buy Simons. You give an Italian lady nine months

489
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:21,719
and the fucking name they come up
with. Oh god, dude, So

490
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:22,760
I gotta say I gotta talk about
this really quick. I'm sorry for this.

491
00:34:23,079 --> 00:34:25,960
Uh. Side note, So,
my kid has this thing called a

492
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:32,239
Tony Box and it just plays different. It just plays Soprano's episodes kind of

493
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:36,880
We're gonna get there. It plays
different like kids books essentially right, like

494
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,440
fucking all kinds of shit. Uh. And it also plays like some songs

495
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:43,039
from like Toy Story and stuff.
You different things you put on, it

496
00:34:43,039 --> 00:34:46,159
doesn't matter. One of the things
he has is Curious George, and it

497
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:50,639
reads a couple of Curious George books. And there's this one where he's throwing

498
00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:54,559
the man in the yellow hat a
birthday party, and it involves if this

499
00:34:54,719 --> 00:35:02,679
was any other ethnicity, people would
be fucking livid. It involves they're gonna

500
00:35:02,679 --> 00:35:08,639
throw the birthday party at their friend's
Italian restaurant called Bisgetti's. And then they

501
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:13,480
I don't even know the name of
the guy who runs the restaurant, but

502
00:35:13,599 --> 00:35:19,159
he's so fucking Italian that he like
cannot control his emotion. He's like,

503
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,000
Georgio, Georgio, yes, and
we throw the party. Yes, and

504
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,880
and and so George wants to throw
the party there and he's like, oh,

505
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,480
yes, A bird by wonderful.
Wonderful is and so then they're like,

506
00:35:30,519 --> 00:35:34,719
oh, and Weve like we have
the fire house band to play,

507
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:39,079
you play have a birthday and and
then someone's like, oh no, the

508
00:35:39,119 --> 00:35:44,480
firehouse band can't come because they have
the Fireman's ball. And he's pulling an

509
00:35:44,519 --> 00:35:46,239
accordion. Well yeah, he does
playing accordion. He has an accordion.

510
00:35:46,599 --> 00:35:53,159
But he's like, oh no,
we got like immediately we got music.

511
00:35:53,800 --> 00:36:00,480
No. I mean you're literally describing
every episode of uh, what is that

512
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,719
ship? Entourage? Right now we
can't do the movie. We did the

513
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:07,280
movie, but Battalion's doing that.
It's like swinging back. And then they're

514
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:08,280
like, oh, it's okay,
the three of us can play. He's

515
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,519
like yes, and he pulls out
of the cord. He's like the music

516
00:36:10,559 --> 00:36:14,039
for the party. Yeah. Yeah. And then they're like, oh,

517
00:36:14,079 --> 00:36:22,280
but Steve sick, he can't play, and he's like no, no,

518
00:36:23,039 --> 00:36:28,599
you know, this poor Italian man
needs lithium. He's the bounce out a

519
00:36:28,639 --> 00:36:31,639
little bit like I was like,
man, this guy was a Mexican.

520
00:36:32,039 --> 00:36:37,679
His wife is actually just a cloud
of dust with a rolling pin like it

521
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:45,119
was. It's just so like he's
so ethnic and so emotional. It's that's

522
00:36:45,199 --> 00:36:47,360
that's the boss. That's but that's
okay, it's on the right side of

523
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:51,599
the boss for us. It's fun, it's fine, it's close, but

524
00:36:51,639 --> 00:36:54,400
it's not. Oh fuck. It
kills me every time, to the point

525
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:58,000
where I just start doing it to
my wife and she's like, please fucking

526
00:36:58,039 --> 00:37:00,239
stop, because that's the only one
he wants to listen to her. Yeah,

527
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:01,840
the day we can't be raisedst story
of Italians is the day that's a

528
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:07,280
sad day. That's when I check
out off. Yeah, I'm fucking biting

529
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:13,159
the cyanide pill. So Innocence up
there now and he's got support of everybody,

530
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,480
and Antclius is excommunicated. Innocent then
gets the king of the Holy Roman

531
00:37:16,519 --> 00:37:22,360
Empire, Lothair the Third, to
attack Rome. At first, he doesn't

532
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:30,280
get it, but Lothair tries again, and he doesn't get it again.

533
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:37,599
He cannot take Rome. Finally,
though, finally, in eleven thirty eight,

534
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:45,960
after eight years of this shit,
Innocent defeats Antaclidus by just waiting about

535
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:50,239
Anticleius died. Yeah, I imagine
Innocent has more resources as the pope.

536
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:55,320
Uh well, Anaclidus is in Rome. Oh wow, in Templar behind him.

537
00:37:55,360 --> 00:38:00,960
So Innocent has the Knights Templar and
France and England. So died.

538
00:38:00,039 --> 00:38:02,599
Basically he just waited him. He
just waited and died. So he got

539
00:38:02,599 --> 00:38:08,679
to be Pope cool in Rome,
hold up in in uh Saint Peter's Basilica,

540
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:13,199
and he had his own royal supporters, specifically the King of Sicily,

541
00:38:13,199 --> 00:38:15,920
who were going to get to in
a second to to circle it all back

542
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:20,639
around. But Antaclytus, yeah,
he uh, he just fucking died in

543
00:38:20,679 --> 00:38:25,760
eleven thirty eight, and everyone else
was like, all right, I'm whatever.

544
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,440
There's one pope now, but okay, now you're pope. Fuck fuck

545
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,840
it if you survive longer, yeah, okay you God chose you. I

546
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:36,559
guess yeah. Yeah. So no, they didn't try to elect someone else

547
00:38:36,599 --> 00:38:38,920
and be like no, you're still
bullshit. They were just everyone that's a

548
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:43,840
lot of work. It's it was
too much. They were just like,

549
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,400
fine, I guess God sorted it
out. Thanks, you're you can.

550
00:38:47,079 --> 00:38:52,199
You can finally be pope now,
Pope Innocent, the second Antclytus is dead

551
00:38:52,320 --> 00:39:01,400
whatever. So unfortunately for the people
who supported Antaclidus, Innocent holds grudges petty

552
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:07,039
motherfucker. He's a petty motherfucker,
especially like a petty pope. I like

553
00:39:07,079 --> 00:39:10,400
a petty person. Petty's kind of
fun. This dude's both I t how

554
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:15,239
you become an all time great petty
Jordan given like his entire Hall of Fame

555
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:21,079
speech just being twenty minutes of everybody
that wronged him. It's amazing. It's

556
00:39:21,119 --> 00:39:22,000
pure entertaining. When you get to
the point where it's like, I'm the

557
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,840
greatest of all time, and here
is everybody that got in my way.

558
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:30,519
It's incredible. It feels wrong that
he gets like the same Hall of Fame

559
00:39:30,599 --> 00:39:36,119
induction as like Gary Payton. Nobody
else should be inducted the same year Jordan

560
00:39:36,159 --> 00:39:42,159
gets inducted. But so the pope. He was like, fuck everyone who

561
00:39:42,199 --> 00:39:47,480
supported Anacletus, but especially fuck the
King of Sicily Roger the Second, which

562
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:52,599
is a hilarious name for Roger,
Roger the Second King. Roger. Yeah,

563
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:53,920
I don't know if I can respect
that. I mean King Bill,

564
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:59,800
like okay, Bill, not William, Yeah, just Bill, just Bill,

565
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:05,000
just fucking built. So prior to
Anacletus's death, like I said,

566
00:40:05,079 --> 00:40:07,920
Roger was his biggest supporter, and
he kicked a lot of ass in support

567
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:12,199
of Antalytis, Like he fucking was
helping beat back load there and all this

568
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,000
stuff. The Kings of France,
England and lee forementioned Load there all went

569
00:40:15,039 --> 00:40:20,440
to war with him, and uh
like he paid a lot to support Antaclyte

570
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,679
as well, right when it seems
like a good resource to have, though,

571
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,199
I don't know if I'm going to
take him out, Roger, Yeah,

572
00:40:24,199 --> 00:40:27,599
maybe bring him on your side.
Yeah he's murking all your dudes and

573
00:40:27,639 --> 00:40:30,679
everything like that, Like yeah,
just kind of like game respect game dude,

574
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,760
hit the portals open, ancalidics World
coach left, come on over,

575
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,599
come on into team, the only
pope that's left. We're literally the only

576
00:40:37,639 --> 00:40:44,039
game in town. So he this
supporting Antaclytus was not easy for Roger because

577
00:40:44,039 --> 00:40:46,960
he had to fight a lot.
His holdings in southern Italy all revolted against

578
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,920
him. They were like, all
right, sweet, he can't put the

579
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,119
army here right now, so we're
out. Yeah. Also, the Eastern

580
00:40:53,199 --> 00:40:58,039
Roman Empire somehow threw the emperor threw
in his lot against Roger as well,

581
00:40:58,079 --> 00:41:00,480
like everyone, Uh oh yeah,
so that's what it was. So sorry,

582
00:41:00,599 --> 00:41:02,199
So he had to fight, you
know, the Pope's guys. And

583
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:06,440
then when he was away doing that, his southern holdings in Italy revolted,

584
00:41:06,519 --> 00:41:09,400
and the Eastern Roman Empire was like, who was also a Mediterranean power?

585
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:13,920
Like the Kingdom of Sicily, which
was basically a Norman kingdom. The Normans

586
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,679
took it over. We'll get to
that in a second as well, But

587
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:21,320
the Eastern Roman Empire was like,
oh sweet, this other Mediterranean power is

588
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:22,400
busy. Blood in the water,
let's fuck with them. Yeah, there's

589
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,800
blood in the water, let's get
it. Yeah. So it didn't matter

590
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:30,119
though. Roger and his force has
completely held their own. They put down

591
00:41:30,159 --> 00:41:32,639
rebellions, they fended off load.
There he's fighting on like three fronts and

592
00:41:32,679 --> 00:41:38,400
fucking handling it. He was Big
Innocent's biggest problem the entire time. But

593
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:47,960
after Anacletus dies, Roger's like,
fuck, okay, fine, that's the

594
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:53,280
wrong way to make a name.
Well, so if you're you know,

595
00:41:54,039 --> 00:41:59,400
your guy dies being infamous not great, No, No, it's truly not.

596
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,119
I mean maybe actually, do you
know who? There's a fun little

597
00:42:01,159 --> 00:42:05,039
side fact that would never really be
able to do a whole episode. Do

598
00:42:05,079 --> 00:42:10,400
you know who? One of Mark
Anthony and Cleopatra's biggest supporters was was it

599
00:42:10,519 --> 00:42:14,519
you heard of him? Was it
Octavian? No, Octavians who they fought

600
00:42:14,519 --> 00:42:15,519
again? They thought, right,
okay, yeah, so you heard of

601
00:42:15,559 --> 00:42:20,400
this guy. I just watched the
whole thing on Cleopatra. I should fucking

602
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:24,320
know this. I don't Julius Caesar, he was dead, He's That's that's

603
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:31,239
what caused some of the issues.
King Herod Herod. Herod was on Mark

604
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:35,159
Anthony and Cleopatra side. At the
time. The Kingdom of Judah was a

605
00:42:35,159 --> 00:42:38,400
protectorate of the Roman Empire or Roman
Republic. I should say, oh so,

606
00:42:38,559 --> 00:42:44,239
and Herod sided with I guess the
people closest to him. And look

607
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:50,760
what happened. Well, after the
Battle of Actium he went to Octavian Caesar

608
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:55,920
Augustus and UH was like, hey, my bad, but I hope you

609
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,719
will at least like I'm down to
work with you now, and I hope

610
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,559
you will least acknowledge that well,
I may have been loyal to the wrong

611
00:43:01,639 --> 00:43:07,719
side, I was loyal to the
end, and I will give that loyalty

612
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,639
to you now if you'll let me
keep the throne. Don't cut he did.

613
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:14,639
Yeah, fucking this was before Jesus
was born, and Herod was there

614
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,480
to try to stab Jesus in the
fucking head. That's true. But yeah,

615
00:43:17,559 --> 00:43:21,800
King Herod, Herod, you know
what, for all intents and purposes,

616
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,920
very loyal and six to his guns, he does. Yeah, but

617
00:43:25,039 --> 00:43:30,239
yeah, So Roger Anacletus dies in
eleven thirty eight. Roger was like,

618
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:36,519
okay, well, I'm gonna try
to get my position now recognized by Pope

619
00:43:36,679 --> 00:43:39,320
Innocent. You know that I'm King
of Sicily. Uh. But the Pope

620
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:45,559
was like, now you're a dick, and uh, I don't he Actually,

621
00:43:45,599 --> 00:43:47,639
the Pope was like, fuck you, you've been a dick. So

622
00:43:47,639 --> 00:43:52,719
here's what I'm gonna do. I
will recognize it. But part of your

623
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:57,400
holdings in southern Italy, Capua,
they're gonna be into that rebelled. They're

624
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,039
like, they're gonna be independent because
I want a bum state between you and

625
00:44:00,079 --> 00:44:04,199
me, because you just beat the
shit out of my guys for a while.

626
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,840
And Roger was like, absolutely not
any state at war. It was

627
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:15,920
eleven thirty eight. A couple months
later, the Council, the second Council

628
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,280
of La Terra can't even fucking remember
that the name of it's so stupid of

629
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:23,679
the lateran takes place in eleven thirty
nine where they outlaw ranged weapons. Uh,

630
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:31,039
yep, Christians on Christians, m
Pope innocent in the summer of eleven

631
00:44:31,119 --> 00:44:37,000
thirty nine. So after that council
invaded the Kingdom of Sicily with a large

632
00:44:37,079 --> 00:44:42,280
army. Did he have crossbows in
his army? Sure? Did crossbows,

633
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,199
bos, all kinds of stuff like
that. So he took he was trying

634
00:44:45,199 --> 00:44:47,880
to hobble the competition. Yeah,
and not follow his own rules. Yeah,

635
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,719
that's incredible. Well, why would
you follow the rules you put in

636
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:58,159
place? Weird? Are you saying
if you limit people's access to arms,

637
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,639
if you do that, you're If
you're the one to do that, you

638
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:05,639
might still retain those arms. Weird? It's an argument I've heard before.

639
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,519
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683
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Christians, saying you would be excommunicated
if you use range weapons against other Christians.

684
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More on that in a second.
Roger how so innocent and invades Rogers

685
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,559
you know, territory with an army. But on July twenty second, eleven

686
00:48:02,599 --> 00:48:10,599
thirty nine, Rogers Roger captured Pope
Innocent. Oh shit, really yeah?

687
00:48:10,679 --> 00:48:14,400
Do you think Pope innosent rolled up
as like with all the things you weren't

688
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:15,320
supposed to have and be like,
hey, by the way, you're not

689
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:22,000
a Christian excommunicated. Yeah, So
they captured Pope Innocent and three days later

690
00:48:22,079 --> 00:48:28,159
Rogers's title was confirmed. Interesting,
So let's recap this timeline. Yeah real

691
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:31,599
quick, here, Innocent antclytic has
become popes in eleven thirty there's eight years

692
00:48:31,599 --> 00:48:36,480
of war basically between the Kingdom of
Sicily and his pope and most of the

693
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,199
rest of Europe and their pope.
Anaclytius dies in eleven thirty eight. Innocent

694
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:44,039
holds the Second Council of the Lateran
in April eleven thirty nine to excommunicate Roger

695
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:52,039
and ban range weapons except against Muslims
and people he deems heretics. Again,

696
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,400
there are people who might be compelled
to believe that the pope with outlying range

697
00:48:54,440 --> 00:49:01,719
weapons against Christians to protect the rich. But why pick the most interesting answer

698
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:07,559
when the pedantic, anti climatic answer
is right there for you. It's never

699
00:49:07,599 --> 00:49:14,440
the it's never interesting, It's never
be These people never are thinking beyond their

700
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,679
own fucking nose. Yeah right,
they do it for their own reason.

701
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:23,920
Now there's another reason, though,
that Innocent would in particular have interest in

702
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:30,760
using range weapons against Muslims, but
not having Christians be able to order their

703
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:36,239
troops to shoot Christians. Do you
know when the Kingdom of Sicily was founded,

704
00:49:36,599 --> 00:49:44,079
no, in eleven thirty by Roger
the second. Before that, Sicily

705
00:49:45,119 --> 00:49:51,400
was controlled until ten ninety one by
Muslims, by the Caliphates, and then

706
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,719
the Normans and Vikings came in and
were like, let's conquer some warm shit.

707
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:59,360
Tired of this weather. Yeah,
you need a timeshare. In ten

708
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,440
ninety one, Uh, they conquered
it from the Muslims. Uh. The

709
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:07,400
Caliphates had basically controlled Sicily since Islam
had exploded out of the Arabian Peninsula,

710
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:15,320
and quite a few of Rogers' troops, particularly his archers, were Muslims.

711
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:21,400
Uh. So we can shoot your
archers. But if your Christian officers order

712
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:28,079
your Muslim archers to shoot, yeah, yeah, that'll be excommunicated and not

713
00:50:28,079 --> 00:50:30,280
get to go to Heaven if you
give that order. But you get some

714
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:36,000
mercenaries from the Islamic side to start
giving orders, fucking let it, let

715
00:50:36,039 --> 00:50:38,119
it fly. But if you even
utter that. But if you order the

716
00:50:38,119 --> 00:50:40,760
guys to give the order, yeah, you just have your entire archery team

717
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:45,320
be Muslim. The whole archery team
was. But the officers giving the orders

718
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:51,920
were yeah, transitively, you have
an archery Muslim officer. But there's always

719
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,159
gonna be one guy that's to be
a Christian at the top in this army.

720
00:50:54,920 --> 00:51:00,639
There's no like autonomous guy that's like
because even then he just go to

721
00:51:00,679 --> 00:51:02,039
a group of Muslims, like do
whatever you want. I don't want to

722
00:51:02,039 --> 00:51:07,360
know. Yeah, but like even
then, that's still I guess as long

723
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:12,199
as it's like you're I'm just leaving
these bows and arrows here, I'm not

724
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,559
telling you what to do with them, Like that's how you do it.

725
00:51:14,639 --> 00:51:16,800
Yeah, they're judged here. I
like that by the way that the pope

726
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:22,039
is like, God doesn't care if
you were just following orders. That's a

727
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,239
that's not the case either though,
isn't it like if you're fighting for country,

728
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:29,760
doesn't God. Isn't God cool with
it? Not to not going to

729
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:34,679
this pope? I don't like that
pope. He's innocent. That's a pr

730
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:38,480
tactic. I've ever heard it.
That's how you know the other guy's the

731
00:51:38,559 --> 00:51:44,400
legit pope because he picked the dumbest
fucking names and a kletis. Yeah,

732
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,519
I don't know who the fuck.
It just sounds like a Mexican American war

733
00:51:46,559 --> 00:51:50,960
general. How many there are a
lot of anti popes? Weren't there?

734
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,039
It was quite a few. See
how many popes were there? But I

735
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:58,159
think we've mentioned at least three.
Yeah, well we did the three Popes

736
00:51:58,159 --> 00:52:01,159
episode, right, did we do
that? No, there have been thirty

737
00:52:01,199 --> 00:52:07,599
seven anti popes see not including Pope
Francis thirty eight if you believe that pre

738
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:13,840
he is a Jesuit. So there's
a lot of Catholics who really don't fucking

739
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:20,719
like Jesuits. So essentially, why
did Pope innocen't want to get rid of

740
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,760
range weapons to disarm the populace?
No, to protect the ruling class?

741
00:52:25,159 --> 00:52:30,599
Maybe a little bit, it didn't
hurt, but really it was for his

742
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:36,960
own, very specific, very immediate
needs. In fact, I assume he

743
00:52:37,039 --> 00:52:42,159
knew this probably wasn't enforceable, and
it was just like a let's throw this

744
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,639
in here, see if it gets
anybody. Yeah, the unwritten laws,

745
00:52:46,079 --> 00:52:52,519
yeah yeah, but written yeah.
No. I mean it's a good it's

746
00:52:52,519 --> 00:52:57,639
a if you have the ability to
give yourself an advantage, why would you

747
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,360
not. It's you always take advantage
of everything you can. And I wonder

748
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:04,199
I didn't look this up, but
it wouldn't surprise me if maybe, like

749
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,079
Sicily had like pretty good archers too, you know what I mean, Like

750
00:53:07,119 --> 00:53:10,639
maybe that was an excellent a strength
of their forces that could be is that

751
00:53:10,639 --> 00:53:14,599
they were excellent, you know,
they had excellent ranged weapons, and so

752
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:16,639
that was an extra incentive for innoc
and to be like, you know what,

753
00:53:17,679 --> 00:53:22,039
you can't use those, but I
can, but you can't. Right.

754
00:53:22,159 --> 00:53:25,639
Weirdly, it reminds me of Nick
Saban, Like, well, Nick

755
00:53:25,639 --> 00:53:29,280
Saven takes advantage of everything. Oh
yeah, but you know, like anytime

756
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:30,480
there's a big rule change in college
football, he'll just be like, you

757
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:36,000
guys really make a mistake and like, I just don't think this was good

758
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,039
for college football. And he says
that knowing damn full well, he is

759
00:53:38,039 --> 00:53:40,440
going to exploit that. Oh well, that's the thing. He's like,

760
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:44,320
you guys don't really want to give
me that one. Please stop doing much.

761
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:45,760
Yeah, I'm just going to hurt
you more and more if you don't

762
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:52,519
want to do it, I'm never
going to die. And that's pretty much

763
00:53:52,519 --> 00:53:55,880
the end of the story. Fun
fact, it is still considered immoral by

764
00:53:55,920 --> 00:54:01,280
the Catholic Church today to shoot another
Christian with a bow and arrow, but

765
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:06,079
not a gun. Oh that too, probably just can't kill another Christian with

766
00:54:06,119 --> 00:54:08,000
a gun. The Pope would still
be mad at you today if you if

767
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:12,559
you walked up to another be really
mad if you murdered somebody. What if

768
00:54:12,679 --> 00:54:15,880
only with a gun? I'm I
feel like it's the murder more than the

769
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:20,400
weapon, so I think makes it
so much worse. He's given us permission

770
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:24,360
to stab. Yeah, it's like
just short blades, baby, run up.

771
00:54:24,679 --> 00:54:31,079
That's all I got for today.
Boys, Uh well, I learned

772
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:35,239
what'd you learn? What did I
learn today? I learned we have a

773
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:39,639
bumper sticker. We gotta make a
sap. Yeah, yeah, Pope,

774
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:44,280
not my pop hashtag it. We
need to get it going people. There

775
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:45,320
might be a lot of Catholics that
buy that on iron. We need a

776
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:52,199
young pope. We need you,
yeah, Pope with the hope that smokes

777
00:54:52,199 --> 00:54:55,639
six. We do need to pope
that smokes six. Dude, Just get

778
00:54:55,719 --> 00:55:00,719
like a like ray band cigarette smoking
Pope. A with it, Pope?

779
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:02,039
Yeah, yeah, I kind of
want to deal with it, Pope.

780
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:07,239
I mean most popes probably fucks,
just not the right way. I'm I

781
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:13,199
think France is fucked it the right
way. Ope, I hope. Who

782
00:55:13,199 --> 00:55:17,519
knows? What had I actually learned? Though? I think that truthfully,

783
00:55:17,599 --> 00:55:24,159
it's not surprised I learned about this
in general. But I learned that,

784
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:30,880
yeah, like the y I'm trying
to my words are bad right now.

785
00:55:31,119 --> 00:55:37,280
But I learned that, like the
Kingdom of Sicily was actually pretty like good

786
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,719
at utilizing people that came over.
Oh yeah, yeah, like the Normans

787
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:45,679
really Norman, Okay, what is
a Norman. He's a part of France,

788
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:49,719
Normandy, France, from the Normandy
region of France. I have a

789
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,639
hard time, like yeah, because
I'm like Burgundians, what the fuck?

790
00:55:52,679 --> 00:55:54,239
And it's like, oh, different
part of France. Yeah yeah, yeah

791
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:58,320
yeah, like oh right, And
Normans were great at wars. I mean

792
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:04,400
look ten ninety one they conquered Sicily. That's uh man, when did they

793
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:08,199
conquer England in ten sixty Yeah,
so thirty years after that they took the

794
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:12,480
English strone, they took Sicily,
and they were they were doing work.

795
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:19,320
Yeah. I really need to get
back into like figuring out distinct disinbiguations between

796
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:23,760
like Burgundians and Normans and Flemish people
and all this different shit. I'll be

797
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:27,280
real with you. I'll never do
that. I want you because like it

798
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:34,199
helps so much because of how like
fluid everything was during these like Middle Ages.

799
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,880
Yeah right, Like it's tough to
keep track of it in my mind

800
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:43,880
because the names all change so much
too. I just enjoy that the Normans

801
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:51,440
were just like just like unstoppable for
like fucking I don't know, a hundred

802
00:56:51,519 --> 00:56:53,559
years. Yeah, just like randomly
out of nowhere, they're like, you

803
00:56:53,599 --> 00:56:57,280
know what, dude, We're pretty
fucking good to go. Yeah. I

804
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:01,039
learned that the Art of war left
out some pretty obvious advice that we learned

805
00:57:01,039 --> 00:57:06,039
today, which is, if your
enemy, if you can ban your enemy

806
00:57:06,039 --> 00:57:09,039
from having the weapons you can use, always do it. Yeah, always

807
00:57:09,039 --> 00:57:14,079
do that. Always tell them that
what they're doing is immoral, which I

808
00:57:14,079 --> 00:57:16,159
think we kind of do all the
time now we oh, yeah, more

809
00:57:16,199 --> 00:57:20,440
than any time more than three people
are killed, like on a battlefield,

810
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:22,920
it's just genocide. Actually, we're
just telling them it's a moral it's a

811
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:29,280
new buzz term. Yeah, yeah, pretty much. Who's today's Hitler?

812
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:36,239
Hm hmmm uh. I kind of
want to say that pope, the pope

813
00:57:36,239 --> 00:57:39,920
that died actually for just being a
bitch. I'm not gonna say. I'm

814
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:43,239
gonna say it's pop in iss in
the second because much like Hitler, he

815
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:47,320
died yeah in the second, you
know, but he has his right to

816
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,960
try and defend himself. I guess
being a hypocrite doesn't make you Hitler.

817
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,519
He did steal the election, or
he was kind of they stole the elect

818
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:57,360
he was part of the stolen elections. It seems like it was more hammish.

819
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:00,239
That was kind of Actually that is
kind of like a hey, let's

820
00:58:00,239 --> 00:58:04,239
dissolve the constitution. Let's do this
the way I need it to be,

821
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,000
in the power I want, right, Yeah, So I mean yeah,

822
00:58:06,079 --> 00:58:08,280
it's actually very Hitler rescue in a
way. Yeah, yeah, no,

823
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:12,239
Yeah, it's Pope Innocent the second
for me. For me, I'm going

824
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:16,239
Father Ramon Guidetti of the Diocese of
Lavarneo, who declared Pope Francis and anti

825
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:20,440
Pope. I'm gonna go with Ryan
the Lionheart because he didn't make such a

826
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,320
as big of a name as his
brother. Yeah, always living in that

827
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:28,840
shadow. That's all I got for
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828
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829
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830
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831
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that is all I got. So
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832
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I'm Rob Fox. He just got
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