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This episode brought to you 17 00:01:38.840 --> 00:01:41.959 by Prize Picks, the easiest and most exciting way to play daily fantasy sports 18 00:01:42.000 --> 00:01:46.159 code Prize Picks dot Com Lockdown NFL and use promo code in Lockdown NFL for 19 00:01:46.239 --> 00:01:49.519 a first positive match up to one hundred dollars and James. Let's start today 20 00:01:49.560 --> 00:01:57.319 with a quick update on everything we know about the Bengals search or process in 21 00:01:57.359 --> 00:02:05.159 replacing Brian Callahan, who is now officially official announced as the next head coach 22 00:02:05.200 --> 00:02:09.120 of the Tennessee Titans. Yeah, it's one of those processes. First off, 23 00:02:09.120 --> 00:02:15.479 congrats to Brian, it's official. And one other thing I think, 24 00:02:15.560 --> 00:02:19.759 and I think I said this when we were doing our o Debryan or whatever 25 00:02:19.759 --> 00:02:23.159 a few nights ago, but if you missed that Brian Callahan was on Team 26 00:02:23.199 --> 00:02:28.159 Weapons, I know that like Jorge, he was played a hand in Jamar 27 00:02:28.560 --> 00:02:31.360 coming here even though they had t Higgins and so man, I'm looking at 28 00:02:31.360 --> 00:02:35.319 this draft and I'm like, oh, it'd be nice to have BC in 29 00:02:35.360 --> 00:02:38.719 the building. Anyways, congrats to him, but yeah, they're looking for 30 00:02:38.759 --> 00:02:44.439 an OC you know they've conducted some interviews. I think the search is the 31 00:02:44.479 --> 00:02:47.719 search you mentioned, the process they're going through, and I think anybody close 32 00:02:47.759 --> 00:02:52.039 to the team now would be surprised if it's not Dan Pitcher. We don't 33 00:02:52.080 --> 00:02:55.680 know that at the time of recording here at twelve forty two Eastern time on 34 00:02:55.759 --> 00:03:00.400 Wednesday, but we'll see. If it isn't Dan Pitcher, I would be 35 00:03:00.479 --> 00:03:05.240 stunned, Flord, whatever adjective you want to use, But that's where we're 36 00:03:05.240 --> 00:03:10.439 at. I think Dan Pitcher remains by far the favorite. Nothing has changed. 37 00:03:10.479 --> 00:03:17.319 There was an interview announced or reported with former Seahawks offensive line coach Andy 38 00:03:17.360 --> 00:03:23.879 Dickerson, somebody with whom Zach Taylor cross pass. Dickerson was with the Rams 39 00:03:23.919 --> 00:03:28.520 from Saint Louis to Los Angeles for over ten years. I think Zach worked 40 00:03:28.520 --> 00:03:37.439 with him in LA And honestly, that could be part of the Rudy rule 41 00:03:37.520 --> 00:03:43.560 requirements, which feel terrible right now for anyone interviewing for the Bengals OC job 42 00:03:43.599 --> 00:03:46.960 when they clearly I think, have a preference to hire and promote Dan Pitcher 43 00:03:47.520 --> 00:03:53.240 for that job. So when this sort of thing happens, my personal hope 44 00:03:53.280 --> 00:03:55.800 is always that it is a legitimate interview that Dickerson had a good chance to 45 00:03:55.840 --> 00:04:02.120 actually have the job, but somebody that Zach knew from the past highlights one 46 00:04:02.120 --> 00:04:08.000 of the deficiencies of the Rooney rule, and the Bengals will move on with 47 00:04:08.039 --> 00:04:12.719 the process go ahead real quick. I just I don't think that this was 48 00:04:12.759 --> 00:04:17.879 some sneak offensive line coach interview either. For those wondering that that was speculating 49 00:04:18.199 --> 00:04:23.319 speculated on social media, Frank Pollack's going to be the offensive line coach would 50 00:04:23.360 --> 00:04:27.680 be shocked again if he's not in the building because Zach said it earlier this 51 00:04:27.759 --> 00:04:31.720 month, he wanted to keep everybody and unfortunately Brian from the Bengals standpoint, 52 00:04:31.759 --> 00:04:36.720 Brian ended up getting a job elsewhere. So now the shuffle begins and there 53 00:04:36.720 --> 00:04:42.000 will likely be a promotion for brag Kragthorpe as well. We'll see there again. 54 00:04:42.560 --> 00:04:46.000 They will have to interview external candidates for QB coach at least one anyway 55 00:04:46.240 --> 00:04:49.639 before they make that decision. If that is the preference, that feels like 56 00:04:49.680 --> 00:04:55.319 the direction it'll go. But we'll see where they go at at QB coach. 57 00:04:55.360 --> 00:04:59.199 One important question, James from the mail bag impact Tony Blunt at Admiral 58 00:04:59.240 --> 00:05:02.240 taskbar. Who will who will be your new pre game fist bump and or 59 00:05:02.319 --> 00:05:09.600 handshake companion? Post Callahan. All right, I'm gonna look right into the 60 00:05:09.600 --> 00:05:13.439 camera here, and if you're listening Bengals coaching staff, that's fine too. 61 00:05:14.040 --> 00:05:17.959 But just know I'm looking into the camera now. Hiring go on LinkedIn, 62 00:05:18.000 --> 00:05:24.199 I might put LinkedIn jobs. I might throw an add up there. Pregame 63 00:05:24.360 --> 00:05:28.319 fist bump something that we switched to this year. It worked, It worked 64 00:05:28.399 --> 00:05:31.199 during the winning streak, and it didn't work on a few of the road 65 00:05:31.199 --> 00:05:34.040 games. I wasn't there, and obviously we couldn't do it. But we 66 00:05:34.079 --> 00:05:39.959 went to a handshake, and I think the cafgate for whatever reason, threw 67 00:05:40.000 --> 00:05:42.399 off our mojo at the beginning of the year with the fist bump. So 68 00:05:42.439 --> 00:05:45.560 we went to the handshake and that started to work, and then things kind 69 00:05:45.560 --> 00:05:48.279 of went haywire. I wasn't in Baltimore to do the pregame handshake, and 70 00:05:48.319 --> 00:05:53.480 so who knows, maybe this is a way I was going to try to 71 00:05:53.560 --> 00:05:56.279 argue it if if Brown was still in town, but to sneak onto the 72 00:05:56.319 --> 00:06:00.600 team plane there and back because flying private is much much easier to these broad 73 00:06:00.600 --> 00:06:04.720 games, Jake, as you can imagine, I can imagine. I can't 74 00:06:04.759 --> 00:06:12.079 imagine with the limited increasingly limited or more limited than when I lived in Cincinnati, 75 00:06:12.120 --> 00:06:15.720 flight options out of CVG. Along the lines of the coaching conversation, 76 00:06:15.839 --> 00:06:20.720 James Tony Crampo at Bengal Underscore Dude has a question that is a little bit 77 00:06:20.759 --> 00:06:25.839 more football related overall. Do you think it is beneficial to have a succession 78 00:06:25.879 --> 00:06:30.000 plan in place when it comes to this sort of decision coaching staff, oc 79 00:06:30.279 --> 00:06:34.360 etc. Or is it better to bring in outside coaches with new ideas. 80 00:06:35.079 --> 00:06:39.560 I think it's it's been an interesting dialogue. This is a big topic. 81 00:06:39.600 --> 00:06:43.720 I mean, we could do a show on this, really and all the 82 00:06:43.800 --> 00:06:48.199 layers of it. First things first, you absolutely always have to have a 83 00:06:48.199 --> 00:06:54.879 plan, always full disclosure. Everyone saw the SI stuff last week, right, 84 00:06:55.360 --> 00:06:59.360 You have to have a plan in any industry of what happens, what 85 00:06:59.480 --> 00:07:02.600 happens with hit the fan, So whether you lose someone or if you get 86 00:07:02.680 --> 00:07:05.879 let go or whatever, you should have plans in place. Right And by 87 00:07:05.920 --> 00:07:09.879 the way, as of now, things are okay for me, and that 88 00:07:10.000 --> 00:07:14.639 whole situation sucks. But this isn't locked on let go from SI this is 89 00:07:15.000 --> 00:07:17.959 locked on Bengals, so let's stick with the Bengals. Zach Taylor should have 90 00:07:18.000 --> 00:07:23.519 always had a plan, and obviously it feels like Dan Pitcher was the plan 91 00:07:23.560 --> 00:07:27.759 if Brian Callahan were to get a head coaching job. At the same time, 92 00:07:28.480 --> 00:07:32.199 I get the argument of wanting fresh eyes. I also think that there 93 00:07:32.240 --> 00:07:38.000 is a balance, especially when you look and Zach Taylor views it this way 94 00:07:38.000 --> 00:07:41.439 and the Bengals view it this way. I get why in the moment fans 95 00:07:41.480 --> 00:07:45.600 might not view it this way. The past one, two, three years, 96 00:07:46.000 --> 00:07:51.040 all three have been a success. Now because of the injuries, because 97 00:07:51.079 --> 00:07:56.160 you lose your franchise quarterback. Because of all these things, the bar changes. 98 00:07:56.199 --> 00:07:59.839 If I would have told you Joe Burrow would be healthy for five games 99 00:08:00.160 --> 00:08:03.959 this year, let's just say, coming into the year, did you think 100 00:08:03.959 --> 00:08:07.279 that they would win nine games? I would have taken the under it. 101 00:08:07.399 --> 00:08:09.680 So I would have taken it back to the episode we did after we got 102 00:08:09.759 --> 00:08:13.680 hurt and where our expectations were for the rest of the season, to see 103 00:08:13.680 --> 00:08:18.560 what we think of what would happen without Joe Burrow. And so there's this 104 00:08:18.680 --> 00:08:22.560 narrative that they need fresh and they need new eyes, and they I think 105 00:08:22.600 --> 00:08:26.120 this was the year from hell injury wise, and they may have that again 106 00:08:26.160 --> 00:08:28.319 next year, and then I may be frustrated and say they need new eyes 107 00:08:28.360 --> 00:08:33.279 and fresh, fresh voices and all of those things. But I think the 108 00:08:33.360 --> 00:08:37.480 farther we get removed from the twenty twenty three season, the more we're going 109 00:08:37.519 --> 00:08:41.759 to look at it and be like, man, this coaching staff pivoted multiple 110 00:08:41.759 --> 00:08:45.799 times. They found ways to win with multiple quarterbacks with a hobbled Joe Burrow 111 00:08:45.840 --> 00:08:48.080 to start the year, and people get on them for Burrow starting the year. 112 00:08:48.159 --> 00:08:50.399 We've talked about that plenty. I'm not even going to get into it. 113 00:08:50.759 --> 00:08:54.000 Make sure you subscribe and follow wherever you get your podcast so you keep 114 00:08:54.080 --> 00:08:58.399 up with every episode. I don't think there's as much of a need for 115 00:08:58.440 --> 00:09:03.759 fresh voice is there would as some would say. And then the other element 116 00:09:03.799 --> 00:09:07.039 to this is Dan Pitcher is in high demand, and so he's in high 117 00:09:07.080 --> 00:09:11.279 demand and the Bengals want to keep him. If he was a player, 118 00:09:11.320 --> 00:09:13.639 we would all be on board with that more than likely. And so that's 119 00:09:13.639 --> 00:09:18.159 what Zach Taylor's trying to do with Dan Pitcher potentially here promoting him to offensive 120 00:09:18.159 --> 00:09:22.360 coordinator. Yeah, that's the goal, right is yeah, yeah, yeah, 121 00:09:22.440 --> 00:09:26.039 yeah. We don't know for sure. Again, it's not official, 122 00:09:26.120 --> 00:09:28.480 but we assume that's what it's going to what's going to happen, And as 123 00:09:28.519 --> 00:09:33.080 of the time of recording, haven't seen a whole lot as far as has 124 00:09:33.120 --> 00:09:37.080 he completed the interview with New England, has he completed the interview with Vegas, 125 00:09:37.159 --> 00:09:39.639 or any of those things. By the time you listen to this, 126 00:09:39.720 --> 00:09:43.279 maybe that's changed. Maybe there's an official announcement somewhere, or maybe there's a 127 00:09:43.320 --> 00:09:48.200 report somewhere. Heck, maybe in ten minutes old we're recording this, something 128 00:09:48.279 --> 00:09:54.240 changes. But sure, I think to Tony's question, there's pros and constant 129 00:09:54.279 --> 00:09:58.320 both. Just like most things in life, having a succession plan internally brings 130 00:09:58.320 --> 00:10:03.960 the benefits of continuity, of familiarity of while you all get a new perspective. 131 00:10:05.159 --> 00:10:09.600 Because Dan Pitcher and Brian Callahan are different people with different personalities and different 132 00:10:09.600 --> 00:10:13.679 experiences and different opinions. Maybe they agree on a lot of things and are 133 00:10:13.720 --> 00:10:16.559 cohesive, but they're going to have differences, right, That's just the way 134 00:10:16.559 --> 00:10:22.600 the world works. There's also a benefit of bringing in exterior voices and getting 135 00:10:22.600 --> 00:10:26.159 out of your comfort zone. You hear that all the time. I think 136 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:28.879 that also applies in coaching. But you lose a continuity then, and you 137 00:10:28.960 --> 00:10:33.039 lose a familiarity and you have this learning curve. 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Jaise, We'll stay on the top of 169 00:12:43.080 --> 00:12:48.399 this coaching staff for one more question here before we dive into t Higgins, 170 00:12:48.480 --> 00:12:50.360 the running back room, the tight end room, some of these other questions 171 00:12:52.159 --> 00:12:56.519 in the mail bag that are themed and skewed toward the offense. And I 172 00:12:56.559 --> 00:13:00.240 know there was a question about defensive tackles and right tackles and free agency year 173 00:13:00.279 --> 00:13:03.000 and we saw that question. We will be talking about it at some point. 174 00:13:03.039 --> 00:13:09.360 Don't think that we're neglecting you. But Dan Bochler Bockler names tough d 175 00:13:09.519 --> 00:13:13.960 Bockler. I'm gonna go with that one on Twitter. What are the realistic 176 00:13:13.039 --> 00:13:18.240 chances that Zach relinquish his play calling duties to whoever is the next offensive coordinator 177 00:13:18.240 --> 00:13:22.240 with the Cincinnati Bengals. This is something that we've discussed and speculated about in 178 00:13:22.320 --> 00:13:26.759 terms of making the Bengals job even more attractive than it already is, in 179 00:13:26.840 --> 00:13:30.279 terms of an OCI that just got a head coaching job and having Joe Burrow 180 00:13:30.399 --> 00:13:33.759 quarterback. I think it's low I do. I don't know for sure, 181 00:13:35.559 --> 00:13:41.200 and whether it's Dan Pitcher or otherwise, I think they would have to get 182 00:13:41.360 --> 00:13:45.440 let's just use Dan. Let's just say this situation, and who knows. 183 00:13:45.480 --> 00:13:48.759 Maybe he's interviewing something for another job right now. Maybe a team has wooed 184 00:13:48.799 --> 00:13:54.480 him and convinced him to take another interview. If that's the case, and 185 00:13:54.559 --> 00:14:01.039 he somehow leverages that into a really big offer and he's ready to take it, 186 00:14:01.919 --> 00:14:05.759 could he hold Zach's feet to the fire and try I think so. 187 00:14:05.320 --> 00:14:07.840 But like I said on Yesterdays show, if I'm Zach, I'd say okay, 188 00:14:07.840 --> 00:14:13.120 fine, bye, and really wonder if Dan would do that. So 189 00:14:15.080 --> 00:14:20.200 Dan, I think it's unlikely. There's all these names that are out there, 190 00:14:20.399 --> 00:14:22.399 you know. Heck, I've gotten tweeted Josh McDaniels and all the big 191 00:14:22.480 --> 00:14:26.600 names. You know. Of course, if you're going after those guys, 192 00:14:26.639 --> 00:14:28.440 which it doesn't sound like the Bengals are, and those are big names, 193 00:14:28.440 --> 00:14:31.919 I don't necessarily think that would benefit their offense, but he would have to 194 00:14:33.440 --> 00:14:37.679 I just don't think that's the plan as of now, and I'm not really 195 00:14:37.720 --> 00:14:41.600 sure or it should be the plan or why it should be the plan at 196 00:14:41.600 --> 00:14:43.759 this stage, because again, you have our issues, you have your issues 197 00:14:43.799 --> 00:14:46.559 with Zach, and I get it. Guess what, thirty two fan bases 198 00:14:46.960 --> 00:14:50.840 have their issues with the play calling with their team at one point or another, 199 00:14:50.879 --> 00:14:54.279 and it's frustrating. And I'll criticize Zach Mideer all the time, like 200 00:14:54.480 --> 00:14:58.480 you know, if it's if I feel like it's worth it, or if 201 00:14:58.519 --> 00:15:03.600 it's fair to do. But I'm do I think he's a pretty solid play 202 00:15:03.600 --> 00:15:05.039 caller. I do, And I don't think he's going to be in a 203 00:15:05.120 --> 00:15:07.879 rush to give up those duties. Going back to that wide receiver throwback for 204 00:15:07.919 --> 00:15:15.960 the second time. Come on, what are you doing it? Oh? 205 00:15:16.320 --> 00:15:20.080 You want him to give up the go ahead? Do you know? I'm 206 00:15:20.080 --> 00:15:22.320 just saying we'll criticize the play. I mean, I wouldn't be opposed, 207 00:15:22.399 --> 00:15:26.000 right. I don't know. I don't know how important it is. But 208 00:15:26.360 --> 00:15:31.120 there's, like I said with Tony's question, there's pros and cons to both 209 00:15:31.159 --> 00:15:35.720 approaches. Maybe you have a different approach to play calling, Maybe that philosophy 210 00:15:35.840 --> 00:15:41.519 suits the current NFL better. Maybe it's an inexperienced issue that leads to a 211 00:15:41.639 --> 00:15:45.919 rocky start, and what's the one thing we're going to be talking about all 212 00:15:45.960 --> 00:15:50.039 off season and into training camp. Let's not have another bad start this year, 213 00:15:50.120 --> 00:15:54.240 Cincinnati Bengals. That's a hard hole to get out of. You managed 214 00:15:54.279 --> 00:15:56.600 to do it once, didn't manage to do it twice, even though they 215 00:15:56.600 --> 00:16:00.639 are more important factors, and the whole day start of the year in mostly 216 00:16:00.679 --> 00:16:07.039 being Joe Burrow's health. It does seem unlikely that Zach will give up play 217 00:16:07.039 --> 00:16:15.279 calling duties, but we didn't roll it out this week, and perhaps the 218 00:16:15.679 --> 00:16:19.639 overall alert of the job should be enough for an OC. Like I talked 219 00:16:19.679 --> 00:16:23.039 about when I was framing the question, the previous OC who didn't call plays 220 00:16:23.080 --> 00:16:27.279 just got a head coaching job, and you get to work with Joe Burrow, 221 00:16:27.519 --> 00:16:33.919 get Jamar Chase in that offense. It's a pretty established group that should 222 00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:37.639 be seen as having a high ceiling, should be seen as a very attractive 223 00:16:37.720 --> 00:16:42.879 job. Should not be necessary. Let's actually do one more question before we 224 00:16:42.879 --> 00:16:48.919 get to the t Higgins topic, James, which is about with some turnover 225 00:16:48.039 --> 00:16:52.600 potentially happening here with Brian Callahan departing, what can the Bengals do to be 226 00:16:52.600 --> 00:16:56.159 more consistent on offense to protect Joe Burrow a little bit better. And Dean 227 00:16:56.200 --> 00:17:00.960 at D D Merritt thinks that teams in the division of out how to stop 228 00:17:00.000 --> 00:17:04.880 the offense in twenty twenty three. Dean, my guy, Dean. Shout 229 00:17:04.880 --> 00:17:11.119 out to Dean. I've I've met Dean multiple times. A couple things. 230 00:17:11.720 --> 00:17:15.799 One, they do need to tweak the offense some and incorporate some of the 231 00:17:15.799 --> 00:17:22.680 things that we saw from Jake Browning. But there is this narrative that this 232 00:17:22.759 --> 00:17:26.759 offense was just so much better with Jake Browning, and oh my god, 233 00:17:26.839 --> 00:17:30.000 it's just not true. The best offense that we saw from the Bengals of 234 00:17:30.039 --> 00:17:33.799 twenty twenty three was during that winning streak with Burrow. I would say the 235 00:17:33.839 --> 00:17:37.960 San Francisco game was pretty darn good. You could look at the Buffalo game 236 00:17:37.960 --> 00:17:44.119 if you want. But that said, could they incorporate some of those things, 237 00:17:44.160 --> 00:17:45.680 Absolutely, and I think that was the plan. And then Joe heard 238 00:17:45.720 --> 00:17:49.119 his calf and they were kind of piecing it together week to week on the 239 00:17:49.160 --> 00:17:55.119 fly. So more under center, absolutely, some play action, absolutely, 240 00:17:55.440 --> 00:18:00.559 but you also want to balance that with Joe Burrow's superpowers and find that and 241 00:18:00.599 --> 00:18:03.880 I think they need to do that, so and they probably know they need 242 00:18:03.920 --> 00:18:06.759 to do that. Joe's a smart guy. So whether it's Joe or Zach 243 00:18:06.920 --> 00:18:11.200 or whoever the offensive coordinator is on down, I think we will see that 244 00:18:11.759 --> 00:18:15.440 as far as the division. As far as the division goes, and there's 245 00:18:15.440 --> 00:18:19.440 this narrative Jake that, oh my god, the Bengals they can't win these 246 00:18:19.440 --> 00:18:22.799 AFC North games. They gotta be tougher, and they do. They got 247 00:18:22.799 --> 00:18:26.839 to add some defensive tackles and they have a question at right tackle. And 248 00:18:29.680 --> 00:18:33.680 I still think that they can win the division next year passing first and being 249 00:18:33.680 --> 00:18:37.039 a passing offense and doing all of those things. The thing about the run 250 00:18:37.079 --> 00:18:40.759 game I want to see more of is explosive plays. Have some explosive runs. 251 00:18:41.200 --> 00:18:45.680 I'm not worried about the fullback dives or the tough No. I don't 252 00:18:45.680 --> 00:18:49.519 need you to growl at the mic unless you're the Bengals mailman guy. I 253 00:18:49.559 --> 00:18:53.240 think we're good to go, and and the Bengals will be just fine in 254 00:18:53.279 --> 00:18:56.960 the AFC North next season. They've won back to back titles. By the 255 00:18:56.960 --> 00:19:00.680 way, you knew that before this year they won back to back Vision titles. 256 00:19:00.720 --> 00:19:03.359 Just confirming and We also knew that no team had ever won three in 257 00:19:03.400 --> 00:19:07.200 a row, and we liked the Bengals chances to do it this year. 258 00:19:07.559 --> 00:19:10.799 And then suddenly Joe Burrow's calf became an issue, and then suddenly Joe Burrow's 259 00:19:10.880 --> 00:19:12.880 risk became an issue. There were multiple times this season when I still thought 260 00:19:12.880 --> 00:19:18.400 it was possible, yep, and it didn't work out that way because attrition 261 00:19:18.920 --> 00:19:22.480 gets Baltimore. I thought they had a shot in Baltimore. Yes, I 262 00:19:22.519 --> 00:19:26.319 was just going to say, look at the Ravens and the injuries they've dealt 263 00:19:26.359 --> 00:19:29.960 with in previous years. That helps the Bengals win the division. Not that 264 00:19:30.000 --> 00:19:33.039 the Bengals lose the division of Baltimore's healthy, right, I'm not saying that, 265 00:19:33.119 --> 00:19:41.279 but it certainly affects the way these these seasons go. So I also 266 00:19:41.319 --> 00:19:44.359 think this idea that they can't win the division is a little bit overstated. 267 00:19:44.400 --> 00:19:48.440 They do have issues with the Browns. I think that they've had issues with 268 00:19:48.519 --> 00:19:52.720 the Browns and Jin Schwartz defense in Week one. Part of it is that 269 00:19:52.759 --> 00:19:57.039 they played in Week one and Week eighteen, and so those are very different 270 00:19:57.079 --> 00:20:00.759 times, like weird weeks a lot of the time. So there's that but 271 00:20:02.039 --> 00:20:04.759 when you don't have Joe Burrow healthy for a single complete game in the division, 272 00:20:04.799 --> 00:20:08.920 it is very hard for me to say that teams in the division have 273 00:20:10.000 --> 00:20:12.920 figured out how to stop the offense when the offense goes through Joe Burrow. 274 00:20:14.480 --> 00:20:18.440 So significantly. Yes, you would have liked to see Jake Browning's version of 275 00:20:18.440 --> 00:20:22.359 the offense perform better against the Steelers in two outings, no doubt, But 276 00:20:23.079 --> 00:20:26.720 if Joe Burrow is playing in those games, it goes very differently. That 277 00:20:26.880 --> 00:20:30.319 said, to your point about what they can do differently, I think they 278 00:20:30.319 --> 00:20:34.680 do need to evolve. I think that they can't be this so heavily invested, 279 00:20:34.880 --> 00:20:40.039 spread eleven personnel all the time kind of team, all the empty they 280 00:20:40.039 --> 00:20:41.200 do. They need to mix it up a little bit more. They need 281 00:20:41.240 --> 00:20:45.359 to modernize in an increasing fashion with the amount of motion they're doing at the 282 00:20:45.359 --> 00:20:48.960 snap, and they took steps in that direction this year that the play action 283 00:20:49.039 --> 00:20:55.519 game needs to be better, and Burrow took a major step forward play action 284 00:20:55.599 --> 00:20:59.640 passes in twenty twenty three. That needs to continue, and so it's just 285 00:20:59.720 --> 00:21:03.079 keep up at this point. That is the one thing you concern about. 286 00:21:03.480 --> 00:21:07.440 You have concerns about when you have continuity on the coaching staff is making sure 287 00:21:07.480 --> 00:21:08.920 that you're continuing to adapt. 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Is your team 305 00:22:22.519 --> 00:22:26.759 eliminated from the playoffs and in need of reinforcements. Maybe it's time for a 306 00:22:26.799 --> 00:22:30.559 rebuild, or maybe they're just a player or two away from taking home the 307 00:22:30.599 --> 00:22:36.799 Lombardi Trophy. Either way, join Keith Sanchez and Damian Parson for Lockdraft Monday 308 00:22:36.880 --> 00:22:41.319 on the Lockdown NFL Draft Podcast. They'll tell you which college football stars your 309 00:22:41.359 --> 00:22:47.079 team will be taking in the twenty twenty four NFL Draft. Chug out Lockdraft 310 00:22:47.119 --> 00:22:52.599 Monday on the lockedwn NFL Draft podcast, part of the Locked On podcast network. 311 00:22:52.799 --> 00:22:56.839 Your Team every Day, James, let's talk about some skill positions your 312 00:22:56.880 --> 00:23:02.920 favorite part of any football team. Ajah Hempil with the question about t higgins 313 00:23:03.200 --> 00:23:07.279 market value. That's where we're going to go next. I'm curious if you 314 00:23:07.319 --> 00:23:12.960 think t Higgins helped, hurt or just maintained his value after this season answer 315 00:23:12.960 --> 00:23:15.599 from the player, organizational, and even league perspective, because it might be 316 00:23:15.640 --> 00:23:22.200 a little bit different depending on who you ask. It's interesting because from a 317 00:23:22.200 --> 00:23:26.319 Bengals trade perspective, he heard it because they just played out the year, 318 00:23:26.799 --> 00:23:30.160 right, He had much more value last year on the rookie deal than he 319 00:23:30.200 --> 00:23:33.559 will on the franchise tag and needing a new contract. So that alone, 320 00:23:34.160 --> 00:23:37.279 just thinking about trade wise now, as far as his health is concerned, 321 00:23:38.200 --> 00:23:45.519 I think it hurt it with the organization some because they may have planned. 322 00:23:45.880 --> 00:23:49.440 I still it would still be hard for me to just tag Tea and play 323 00:23:49.440 --> 00:23:56.319 out this year, which I think is the most likely scenario. But they 324 00:23:56.000 --> 00:24:00.440 if they felt like, hey, we're going to commit around this big Joe 325 00:24:00.480 --> 00:24:04.839 Burrow Jamar Chase T Higgins did this year give them some pause of him being 326 00:24:04.920 --> 00:24:10.839 nicked as nicked up as he was was, of him not being as good 327 00:24:10.839 --> 00:24:14.039 on contested catches as he has been. I still think he's an awesome player, 328 00:24:14.799 --> 00:24:17.920 but it's a lot to build your team around three guys as is, 329 00:24:18.039 --> 00:24:21.920 and they need to be special. And you know which agent he has and 330 00:24:21.960 --> 00:24:25.960 how hard it was to negotiate with that agent, David mullagetto when you looked 331 00:24:25.960 --> 00:24:29.640 at Jesse Bates and trying to get an extension. So I think he's hurt 332 00:24:29.680 --> 00:24:33.400 his value a little bit with the Bengals in a sense that I don't know 333 00:24:33.440 --> 00:24:37.440 if they would be willing to go where Tea's camp is going to want them 334 00:24:37.480 --> 00:24:41.160 to go to get a long term extension done. As far as the league 335 00:24:41.200 --> 00:24:45.200 goes, you can see you just have to look up on social media every 336 00:24:45.279 --> 00:24:48.599 fan of every fan base that the Titans right now, they're googly eyes over 337 00:24:48.640 --> 00:24:52.960 t Higgins and obviously that's his home state and they would love him at Nissan 338 00:24:53.000 --> 00:24:56.440 Stadium. But it's not just there. I mean Jacksonville would be in on 339 00:24:56.519 --> 00:24:59.079 him. I think there are a lot of teams that would be in on 340 00:24:59.160 --> 00:25:00.920 him if he hits free agent and see, but if you're looking at a 341 00:25:00.960 --> 00:25:04.480 tag and trade, his value certainly isn't what it was a year ago. 342 00:25:06.079 --> 00:25:08.200 In that stinks, and a lot of that has to do with the contract 343 00:25:08.240 --> 00:25:12.720 more so than the injuries. I agree with all that he had a season 344 00:25:12.759 --> 00:25:18.559 that did not boost his trade value. He had a season that may create 345 00:25:18.680 --> 00:25:22.400 questions in the Bengals front office where they're going to still really like Tea the 346 00:25:22.440 --> 00:25:25.319 player, because you don't overreact to one season when you have the track record 347 00:25:25.319 --> 00:25:27.359 the T Higgins doesn't. You have a twenty five year old who is not 348 00:25:27.440 --> 00:25:30.920 going to get worse anytime soon. But he had a very rocky start to 349 00:25:30.960 --> 00:25:36.880 the season. His catch rate was down, is yards per target were down, 350 00:25:37.000 --> 00:25:40.960 his drop rate was up, and he missed a bunch of time. 351 00:25:41.480 --> 00:25:47.640 And while that's unfortunate and unlucky, and it's hard to blame Tea for that, 352 00:25:48.039 --> 00:25:52.119 when you're making decisions about where do you allocate ten percent ish a little 353 00:25:52.119 --> 00:25:56.559 bit less than ten percent, I guess eight percent of your cap if you're 354 00:25:56.559 --> 00:25:59.440 going to franchise Tag t Higgins or you're going to try to extend T Higgins 355 00:25:59.440 --> 00:26:02.480 and build around like you said, James, that becomes a little bit more 356 00:26:02.519 --> 00:26:07.680 complicated, the calculus around what's the risk what's the reward? With Tie Higgins 357 00:26:07.680 --> 00:26:11.799 on the field, he's easily worth that twenty one to twenty two million dollar 358 00:26:11.880 --> 00:26:17.079 market value whatever he's getting projected at YEP when he's on the field, and 359 00:26:17.680 --> 00:26:21.880 this year that was less than it's ever been in his NFL career. And 360 00:26:21.880 --> 00:26:26.559 it's been some stuff that's nagging in soft tissue and seems to come up on 361 00:26:26.640 --> 00:26:30.519 a bit of a recurring basis, and that is unlucky, but it is 362 00:26:30.559 --> 00:26:33.000 something the Bengals have to deal with. It is, it is, and 363 00:26:33.559 --> 00:26:37.160 we'll see what happens. It's the biggest question of the off season. But 364 00:26:37.759 --> 00:26:41.920 another couple of huge questions that's around this offense this offseason. What do they 365 00:26:41.920 --> 00:26:45.400 do at tight end because right now, well there's zero tight end set to 366 00:26:45.400 --> 00:26:49.720 be on the roster when the new league gear starts and Joe Mixon's future. 367 00:26:49.839 --> 00:26:56.279 So let's combine two questions here. Rob Hill at Shirley this season has Joe 368 00:26:56.279 --> 00:27:03.119 Mixon's performance into a certain extent, the late season partnership with Chase Brown reduced 369 00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:07.640 the need at this position. Talking about running back and then Will at will 370 00:27:07.680 --> 00:27:11.160 nos Ball underscore asks how would you to revent the tight end and running back 371 00:27:11.240 --> 00:27:15.000 rooms? So Jake start with running back and then we can go to tight 372 00:27:15.079 --> 00:27:21.240 end. Yeah, Joe Mixon this season when he was used with Chase Brown, 373 00:27:21.960 --> 00:27:25.039 the running game got a little bit more efficient, no doubt about that. 374 00:27:25.319 --> 00:27:29.039 Down the stretch running game got a little bit more efficient against teams like 375 00:27:29.079 --> 00:27:34.680 San Francisco, against teams like Minnesota teams that are sending guys up feel and 376 00:27:34.720 --> 00:27:40.880 penetrating one gap style defenses. The offense found some success. They did, 377 00:27:41.599 --> 00:27:47.640 but they did not have much success too frequently this year. Joe Mixon before 378 00:27:47.880 --> 00:27:52.119 Week eighteen against the Browns was averaging three point eight yards per carry. He 379 00:27:52.240 --> 00:27:56.000 had a ton of volume this year, finished at four yards per carry one 380 00:27:56.039 --> 00:28:00.839 thousand yards. Had some success in short yarded situations. The Bengals were, 381 00:28:00.039 --> 00:28:06.200 though dreadful in short yarded situations compared to recent years. Some of the juice 382 00:28:06.240 --> 00:28:08.759 came back for Joe Mixon at times, other times it looked like it had 383 00:28:08.799 --> 00:28:14.039 disappeared, So it wasn't necessarily the most consistent thing. Run blocking wasn't the 384 00:28:14.079 --> 00:28:18.440 most consistent thing either, So it's impossible to hold all of that against mix 385 00:28:18.519 --> 00:28:21.759 in. But when you look at the teams that are still in the NFL 386 00:28:21.759 --> 00:28:26.039 playoffs and we draw lessons or or things that you want to copy and emulate 387 00:28:26.079 --> 00:28:30.160 from the teams that are successful in the NFL right now, there's a common 388 00:28:30.200 --> 00:28:36.000 element in the running game, which is explosion, the ability to bust off 389 00:28:36.200 --> 00:28:41.680 chunk runs every day, every game. Have those explosive threats in your run 390 00:28:41.720 --> 00:28:45.519 game, to make teams really pay not just to the tune of six to 391 00:28:45.559 --> 00:28:48.440 ten yards per Carrie, but to be able to rip off a thirty to 392 00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:52.279 fifty yard run with some of the more explosive backs still playing in this year's 393 00:28:52.279 --> 00:28:56.599 playoffs, and I think that's what they're missing. They get some of that 394 00:28:56.640 --> 00:29:03.799 with Chase Brown, but Chase needs to take a step to really threaten to 395 00:29:03.839 --> 00:29:08.119 do that on a consistent basis. So if I'm looking at this and it's 396 00:29:08.240 --> 00:29:15.160 me making the decisions, I'm looking to get one more explosive across the room 397 00:29:15.200 --> 00:29:18.200 at running back. I want multiple explosive threats. Look at the Dolphins, 398 00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:23.880 for example, and how their running game was able to put together multiple speedybacks 399 00:29:25.000 --> 00:29:27.680 and great spots using that to their advantage. This is going to be a 400 00:29:27.720 --> 00:29:33.880 theme for the entire offenses team speed. So that also includes running back to 401 00:29:33.920 --> 00:29:38.160 me, But I don't want to see the Bengals be this multi headed running 402 00:29:38.160 --> 00:29:42.680 back unit where one is your short yards back, one is your trap wham 403 00:29:42.759 --> 00:29:47.240 toss back, one is your pass pro back. They got to get a 404 00:29:47.240 --> 00:29:51.680 little bit more complete there, and we're gonna talk about tight end two. 405 00:29:52.119 --> 00:29:56.799 It would be ideal not to have to use Drew Sample as a third down 406 00:29:56.839 --> 00:30:00.000 back, not to take away from him. He was good in that role. 407 00:30:00.519 --> 00:30:03.759 And we'll see it some if Drew's Sample is back with the team, 408 00:30:03.920 --> 00:30:07.200 regardless of who's it running back for the Cincinnati Bengals. But it would be 409 00:30:07.279 --> 00:30:11.519 ideal to have a guy who can protect and offer something in the receiving game 410 00:30:12.200 --> 00:30:17.119 and not just have to put Drew Sample back there for protection. Yeah, 411 00:30:17.519 --> 00:30:22.240 it would be ideal. And the explosive part is the part that matters so 412 00:30:22.400 --> 00:30:26.200 much. And in this offense, you want to talk about giving it an 413 00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:32.559 element it hasn't had. That's it. Explosive runs make defenses have to worry 414 00:30:32.640 --> 00:30:36.759 about insert whatever the name is of the running back. I really don't care. 415 00:30:37.119 --> 00:30:41.160 Insert that person's name and have to worry about that running back going for 416 00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:47.559 thirty. If the linebacker reads the wrong gap, like that's that's it, 417 00:30:47.640 --> 00:30:52.079 because he has the ability to make a safety miss and be off to the 418 00:30:52.160 --> 00:30:55.279 races or get past the defensive back that happens to be in the hole, 419 00:30:55.359 --> 00:30:59.640 or whatever the case is. Turn an average play into a big play, 420 00:30:59.680 --> 00:31:02.440 and that's what they have to do. So, however, you want to 421 00:31:02.519 --> 00:31:06.680 discuss that amongst the fans, You know, fans want to discuss that, 422 00:31:06.759 --> 00:31:10.880 discuss it. I think when it comes to mixing the eight point nine million 423 00:31:10.920 --> 00:31:14.359 dollar capit will certainly come into play. We'll know by March sixteenth, less 424 00:31:14.359 --> 00:31:17.599 than two months from now, when he has that three million dollars roster bonus, 425 00:31:17.640 --> 00:31:19.160 what they plan to do with him, So we'll know much earlier this 426 00:31:19.240 --> 00:31:23.680 year. And at the same time, they need to plan on that before 427 00:31:23.720 --> 00:31:29.400 free agency begins, because free agency will begin, what right a day or 428 00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:33.319 two before. I would imagine that roster bonuses due so or at least the 429 00:31:33.400 --> 00:31:38.279 legal tampering period will so keep that part in mind as well. And then 430 00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:44.559 as far as tight ends, I think it's similar. You want, hopefully 431 00:31:44.880 --> 00:31:48.839 you can find a tight end that can be on the field and block and 432 00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:53.079 also be explosive and make plays with the ball in their hand and not have 433 00:31:53.240 --> 00:31:56.799 like, all right, this is our our past catching tight end, and 434 00:31:56.799 --> 00:31:59.400 then this is our blocking tight end, and then this is our it'd be 435 00:31:59.480 --> 00:32:01.799 nice to have t Hudson or Mitch will Cox or Drew Sample on the roster, 436 00:32:02.119 --> 00:32:05.200 and I'm sure some of those guys will be on the team next year, 437 00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:08.400 but it would they need to upgrade at that spot. Those are two 438 00:32:08.400 --> 00:32:15.440 spots that really clearly needed upgraded, and Chase Brown flashed, but I think 439 00:32:15.480 --> 00:32:19.119 they need to continue to add bodies there, whether it's in free agency or 440 00:32:19.119 --> 00:32:22.240 the draft. At running back and tight end. I think it'll be potentially 441 00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:24.119 a combination of both a tight end. It'll especially be both. They're going 442 00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:28.160 to have free agent tight ends. They might draft a tight end as well. 443 00:32:28.680 --> 00:32:31.799 Not the tight end class that it was last year, unfortunately, and 444 00:32:31.799 --> 00:32:35.799 we talked about earlier this week that that was a bit of a missed opportunity 445 00:32:36.240 --> 00:32:39.240 that dude, there's one dude. Though there's one dude, there's that one 446 00:32:39.319 --> 00:32:45.839 dude probably be fairly pricey to go get him, and I probably you come 447 00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:52.599 here, Brock, I probably wouldn't be opposed to paying the price. I 448 00:32:52.640 --> 00:32:54.799 think that one thing we're going to talk about when we're looking at this draft 449 00:32:54.799 --> 00:33:00.640 class this year, and this is probably a bit knee jerky and actionary, 450 00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:07.000 is I'm a pendulum swinging the other way on positional value. This look at 451 00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:13.720 you. It just it's just and we'll talk more about it. I have 452 00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:17.240 reasons, but I agree generally, looking to get more explosive at both positions 453 00:33:17.279 --> 00:33:21.920 if possible, Looking to get more reliable at tight end, looking to have 454 00:33:21.920 --> 00:33:23.640 a guy that you can have out there for you know, seventy percent of 455 00:33:23.640 --> 00:33:30.079 your snaps. Bengals don't really have that guy. They have a rotational amalgamation 456 00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:34.759 of tight ends right now. While those guys are talented in their own way, 457 00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:36.519 and you would like to see some of them back on the team. 458 00:33:36.519 --> 00:33:39.400 I would like to see Tanner, Hudsonery sample back. Mitch Wilcock's sure, 459 00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:45.160 there's nothing wrong with those guys. You would like to have more top end 460 00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:49.480 at tight end and be able to be a little bit more multiple with your 461 00:33:49.480 --> 00:33:52.680 personnel, be able to threaten in some different ways because, like I said, 462 00:33:52.720 --> 00:33:54.920 one of the things that I think they have to do this year is 463 00:33:55.119 --> 00:34:00.680 in terms of modernization, is to be a little bit more personnel versatile and 464 00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:05.960 threatened teams a little bit more with different personnel packages and forcing the defenses to 465 00:34:06.039 --> 00:34:08.599 match those personnel packages, and some of that goes to tight end as well. 466 00:34:09.880 --> 00:34:14.639 That's gonna do it for this episode of the Lockdown Bengals podcast. 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