WEBVTT 1 00:00:13.560 --> 00:00:20.960 Good morning, friends and friends, I am Julio Pérez and this is the 2 00:00:21.120 --> 00:00:27.559 train of life, a radio adventure along the routes of the heart. I 3 00:00:27.600 --> 00:00:32.920 want to invite you to travel with me and dream together in a better world, 4 00:00:34.039 --> 00:00:38.320 a different world where men and women of good will can live in peace 5 00:00:38.439 --> 00:00:45.640 and freedom. The train of life is a magaxin of good news and hope. 6 00:00:48.719 --> 00:00:54.000 This is a radio time specially designed for people like you and like so 7 00:00:54.119 --> 00:00:59.880 many truth seekers, of the only truth that can make us authentic free come 8 00:01:00.439 --> 00:01:07.359 on, I invite you to travel with us on the safest train of all, 9 00:01:08.599 --> 00:01:17.560 which will certainly take you to safe harbour. This is the train of 10 00:01:17.599 --> 00:01:55.920 life the world. Good morning, Spain. Good day to all friends of 11 00:01:55.959 --> 00:02:02.280 the north, the south, the east and the west, of this mosaic 12 00:02:02.400 --> 00:02:08.360 of cultures called Spain, this wonderful country of ours that we have to appreciate, 13 00:02:08.479 --> 00:02:15.560 this Mediterranean country, Cantabrian, Atlantic and also to the ends of the 14 00:02:15.639 --> 00:02:19.639 earth. We' re going to travel together. Come with me on this 15 00:02:19.639 --> 00:03:37.080 traveling train, the train of life. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, 16 00:03:37.120 --> 00:03:40.879 for some it will be good morning, others good night or take off good 17 00:03:40.879 --> 00:03:45.759 afternoon. Look in this program at the train of life, this traveling train. 18 00:03:45.759 --> 00:03:51.000 Thirty- two real years ago. I wanted to set up here a 19 00:03:51.120 --> 00:03:55.280 marketing speech, No thirty- two years, in the spring of the ninety 20 00:03:57.240 --> 00:04:00.840 - two, just in the spring of the ninety- second, on the 21 00:04:00.960 --> 00:04:05.759 eve of the Barcelona Olympics, of the wonderful unforgettable Olympics of Barcelona of the 22 00:04:05.800 --> 00:04:10.280 ninety- two, the year of the Ex Universal of Seville, the year 23 00:04:10.400 --> 00:04:14.319 of Spain with everything, but with all those of the law, this rain 24 00:04:14.479 --> 00:04:19.319 of medals, the Spanish medalist was something and the country experienced a rise in 25 00:04:19.439 --> 00:04:27.000 its self- esteem, Infrastructures and everything took a huge qualitative leap at the 26 00:04:27.000 --> 00:04:29.000 level of the whole country. Okay. What I mean is, we' 27 00:04:29.079 --> 00:04:30.920 ve traveled. We' re thirty- two years old. It gives a 28 00:04:31.000 --> 00:04:38.000 lot of it. For five years we did two two three- hour weekly 29 00:04:38.000 --> 00:04:44.920 magaxin, each after one a three- hour week. Usually sometimes two and 30 00:04:44.959 --> 00:04:48.600 a half hours, but most of the times three hours the maximum because there 31 00:04:48.680 --> 00:04:57.920 are different three or four interviews, music, curiosities, etcetera. They make 32 00:04:58.000 --> 00:05:00.720 the journey a little easier and we talk about what happens, what happens on 33 00:05:00.759 --> 00:05:03.720 the street, what people think, what we think, and who we are. 34 00:05:08.800 --> 00:05:12.839 What do I represent, because I represent one of the voices of the 35 00:05:12.920 --> 00:05:16.040 evangelical world, of the Protestant world. Yes, I am an evangelical, 36 00:05:16.160 --> 00:05:23.040 pastor, evangelical more than forty years ago. In this case it' s 37 00:05:23.120 --> 00:05:29.879 a blessed craft that the truth honors me. And also, many years ago, 38 00:05:30.079 --> 00:05:33.240 when I was very young, I had an experience, a personal encounter 39 00:05:33.360 --> 00:05:38.000 with Jesus Christ. He changed my life from end to end in a very 40 00:05:38.040 --> 00:05:42.319 precarious situation, mine, in my concrete case, with a very problematic family 41 00:05:42.480 --> 00:05:48.720 context, dysfunctional to the maximum and then well, for this was a miracle 42 00:05:48.839 --> 00:05:55.839 of those who pass through life Sometimes and Jesus meant for me to cease being 43 00:05:55.879 --> 00:06:00.519 a magic legend or a talisman to become a real, living and transcendent experience, 44 00:06:00.040 --> 00:06:03.560 and he has been the great guide of my life all these years, 45 00:06:03.759 --> 00:06:09.279 of my wife also who have the same experience, thank God, of my 46 00:06:09.800 --> 00:06:13.279 two children, that also some of them are pastors and live the Christian faith 47 00:06:13.319 --> 00:06:24.399 in a way, because also intense and good, are precious. And then, 48 00:06:24.480 --> 00:06:27.720 my grandchildren and family, a large part of my family, also knowing 49 00:06:27.720 --> 00:06:32.720 Jesus as the personal savior of their lives. And this is a joy, 50 00:06:32.839 --> 00:06:40.360 a great joy. Look We are here to help what is possible good practices 51 00:06:40.439 --> 00:06:45.399 live faith in the word of God, that the word of God has a 52 00:06:45.399 --> 00:06:50.079 transformative power. Here the example I am telling you and so many others who 53 00:06:50.120 --> 00:06:56.319 have passed by, but have paraded hundreds of people, many of them are 54 00:06:56.319 --> 00:06:59.279 repetitive, because they are people we were counting on here. Many commentators, 55 00:07:00.000 --> 00:07:10.279 journalists have gone through a lot and continue to pass, communicators, artists, 56 00:07:10.639 --> 00:07:15.600 elite athletes. At the Olympics. We had some of them precisely during the 57 00:07:15.600 --> 00:07:18.160 Olympics that were evangelical, that came from other countries, that plus brands and 58 00:07:18.240 --> 00:07:26.240 such we had the privilege also to interview them and an endless number of things 59 00:07:26.240 --> 00:07:30.079 people like the puma, Juan Luis Guerra I so many others that we have 60 00:07:30.839 --> 00:07:40.279 also been able to interview at some time and many simple and anonymous people that 61 00:07:40.319 --> 00:07:46.920 have something to tell, because they have also been here theologians, of course, 62 00:07:47.680 --> 00:07:55.680 pastors, women, professionals, psychologists, psychiatrists, doctors, of all 63 00:07:55.680 --> 00:07:59.480 specialties, people who are successful writers, writers of other kind an endless. 64 00:07:59.600 --> 00:08:03.600 These are an endless parade. Some politicians too and this morning we are going 65 00:08:03.959 --> 00:08:09.160 to have the first interview with a man who has jumped into politics. It 66 00:08:09.360 --> 00:08:13.959 ' s Salvador Martí. Salvador Martí is a brave man, I don' 67 00:08:15.000 --> 00:08:18.319 t have to say, he' s a brave man by the way. 68 00:08:18.639 --> 00:08:22.240 It does not go bravely for life, but it does go from what is 69 00:08:22.360 --> 00:08:28.199 deep convictions in God and in the word of God and in Christian values, 70 00:08:28.439 --> 00:08:33.519 in this dechristianization that we are living in Spain and in Europe, to forced 71 00:08:33.600 --> 00:08:37.720 marches that poison social consciousness in some cases, in another, because they are 72 00:08:37.799 --> 00:08:43.480 natural things and there is nothing more to talk about, but there are things 73 00:08:43.519 --> 00:08:50.799 that are really very harmful for coexistence and social consciousness as they are antivalues and 74 00:08:52.159 --> 00:08:58.960 then they really disorient many. Then Salvador Martí is a man who is the 75 00:08:58.039 --> 00:09:03.000 urban guard, the achievement. He' s a man who' s been 76 00:09:03.039 --> 00:09:05.919 having a job with alexia, a program against bullying, talking about values. 77 00:09:07.080 --> 00:09:11.120 He is an indefatigable worker, a man, but a man who, from 78 00:09:11.240 --> 00:09:18.360 an intelligent, moderate and focused position, speaking on his political agenda, has 79 00:09:18.480 --> 00:09:20.879 worked on this idea. It seems that he will explain to us and a 80 00:09:20.000 --> 00:09:26.960 long time ago and recently decided to take the step of launching into active politics. 81 00:09:28.360 --> 00:09:33.240 We have no politicians in Parliament. Still today we must have a voice 82 00:09:33.320 --> 00:09:37.159 at least and he has been able to do so with the faithful party are 83 00:09:37.200 --> 00:09:43.720 the acronyms of an acrostic party that will tell us faithful and good, because 84 00:09:43.799 --> 00:09:46.120 there it is clear. You know that when you are a Christian and you 85 00:09:46.120 --> 00:09:50.120 talk about values, this is a facha, this is an ultra, this 86 00:09:50.279 --> 00:09:54.320 is if the ultra- left people were told that they are communstoids of those 87 00:09:54.320 --> 00:10:00.120 of the worst caraña and we do not speak in those terms, although we 88 00:10:00.120 --> 00:10:03.000 sometimes say what is to be said, because it is so contemptuous. Besides, 89 00:10:03.120 --> 00:10:05.559 that' s not the case, that' s a lie. What 90 00:10:05.639 --> 00:10:11.399 happens is that he has become all Mount Oregano and is a good man and 91 00:10:11.480 --> 00:10:16.399 will tell us the first, the first round ahead is the European elections and 92 00:10:16.399 --> 00:10:22.840 we must all contribute to signatures immediately in order to present the candidacy for European 93 00:10:22.919 --> 00:10:28.759 women. He will tell us about it and please take good note, take 94 00:10:28.759 --> 00:10:33.399 the data, because we will all sign that many are already signing to get 95 00:10:33.440 --> 00:10:39.919 the candidacy for Europeans, which I believe is a unified vote for the whole 96 00:10:39.120 --> 00:10:50.120 country. Well, Salvador Martí would be the first Christian political voice for what 97 00:10:50.159 --> 00:10:54.279 the mission is. Well, Salvador mart will explain it to us here on 98 00:10:54.279 --> 00:11:00.840 the train of life. Then we' re going to have a very nice 99 00:11:01.039 --> 00:11:03.000 interview and I was trying to connect with my good friend Niki Cruz. I 100 00:11:03.039 --> 00:11:09.000 say friend, because we are friends being in Barcelona and on several occasions I 101 00:11:09.080 --> 00:11:13.360 have been with him. I' ve organized events with Nikiy Cruz, too. 102 00:11:13.519 --> 00:11:16.519 My dear friend Luis Rodríguez, who was the first to bring Niki Cruz, 103 00:11:16.799 --> 00:11:22.600 made him known was a great blessing. And then I had the opportunity, 104 00:11:22.639 --> 00:11:28.320 on a couple of occasions of an invitation to Nikiy Cruz, who came 105 00:11:28.320 --> 00:11:31.120 and was a blessing to make a char. A few years and now, 106 00:11:31.039 --> 00:11:37.799 before the pandemic, just with the fraternity of shepherds, Miguel Leal eats in 107 00:11:37.879 --> 00:11:43.799 front, we had the opportunity to bring Nicky Cruz and Gary Wilkerson, the 108 00:11:43.840 --> 00:11:50.120 son of the distinguished David Wilkerson, No and it was and were sensational days, 109 00:11:50.639 --> 00:11:54.559 sensations. He' s back now, he' s been to Bilbao, 110 00:11:54.919 --> 00:11:56.960 he' s been to Valencia, he' s in Madrid. These 111 00:11:56.039 --> 00:12:01.879 days they have a public event in Goti alone and very important. I think 112 00:12:01.919 --> 00:12:05.919 this act is gonna be him. It seems to me that on Saturday Sunday 113 00:12:05.960 --> 00:12:09.679 they will say it here in the interview. But my good friend, journalist 114 00:12:09.759 --> 00:12:13.759 Joel Foster, has given him a magnificent interview, magnificent in Protestant and toural 115 00:12:13.799 --> 00:12:18.480 and we have said good. Let' s go to me trying to connect 116 00:12:18.480 --> 00:12:24.000 with Niki. Niki was surrendered because he is eighty- five years old and 117 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:28.200 still a warrior. Eh, but Jaime Villarreal, who is the coordinator, 118 00:12:28.279 --> 00:12:31.480 the president of the fertility of Pentecostal and charismatic of Spain, told me Julio 119 00:12:31.559 --> 00:12:35.799 he would want, but it is that he is very saying, nothing quiet. 120 00:12:35.879 --> 00:12:41.600 Let' s take advantage of Joel Foster' s very well- made 121 00:12:41.679 --> 00:12:43.440 and recent interview for a few days and let' s hear it. This 122 00:12:43.480 --> 00:12:50.759 week. It has been just over twenty minutes with magnificent, magnificent Nikiy Cruz 123 00:12:50.960 --> 00:13:01.120 and we will hear very interesting things. Finally, we have our friend Judith 124 00:13:03.000 --> 00:13:07.200 Gasso here, and what we' re talking about with Judith Casso. We 125 00:13:07.879 --> 00:13:13.080 ' ll talk about the importance of the mother figure. Remember, Sunday is 126 00:13:13.039 --> 00:13:18.759 Mother' s Day. Today, Mamaita dear, is Mother' s Day. 127 00:13:18.120 --> 00:13:20.960 And since I love you so much, I feel like hugging you. 128 00:13:22.039 --> 00:13:24.960 Who cares about me, who loves me, who loves me more than anyone, 129 00:13:24.200 --> 00:13:26.960 my mother, just my mother. Therefore, on this day, with 130 00:13:28.159 --> 00:13:31.440 phili to fervor, I give you with joy, a kiss and ten zero 131 00:13:31.519 --> 00:13:37.120 kisses full of love. This I told my mom not when I was a 132 00:13:37.360 --> 00:13:43.240 kid, my mom who already left with the lord years ago and my dad 133 00:13:43.320 --> 00:13:46.639 before. Then. Well, yes, on mother' s day a dear 134 00:13:46.679 --> 00:13:54.240 figure, indispensable judic gasol gives it a very special touch. Well, this 135 00:13:54.360 --> 00:13:58.200 is all the dish we have on the menu. Here we go. You 136 00:13:58.240 --> 00:14:03.080 can send your mensar through our Facebook, through our Facebook, entering between its 137 00:14:03.120 --> 00:14:09.320 double points the train of life, point is the train of life. Point 138 00:14:09.480 --> 00:14:15.159 is remember that in this way you collaborate with us, tell us your impressions, 139 00:14:15.559 --> 00:14:18.600 ask them and participate actively. We want to meet you, we want 140 00:14:18.600 --> 00:14:24.279 to meet you. Enter our website three of your double points, the train 141 00:14:24.360 --> 00:14:28.159 of life. Together it is and follow us through Facebook. Through Facebook And 142 00:14:28.200 --> 00:15:11.440 who knocks us down to cheer for you that an offering puetace only for you? 143 00:15:16.960 --> 00:15:33.519 Let us know that this koranso that burns for you that a frenta can 144 00:15:35.360 --> 00:15:48.600 be just for you? For only by looking at you God, my cozon 145 00:15:48.799 --> 00:16:03.879 beats even stronger, more loose and only by hearing everyone within my stress trembles 146 00:16:04.320 --> 00:16:22.399 saying that there is nothing left for you to fear but that I say that 147 00:16:26.840 --> 00:17:14.000 it took a thousand vivid villante jesus or that this corason that burns for you 148 00:17:14.440 --> 00:17:33.880 that a FDA can be only for you, only by looking at you God, 149 00:17:36.240 --> 00:17:49.599 reason of the strongest luck and only with ur your silly voice of my 150 00:17:49.799 --> 00:18:21.200 premiere, it is brand new saying that between prayer and fra rendón you my 151 00:18:21.640 --> 00:18:56.599 life of late you are not those of before my cridante you are a bass 152 00:19:03.680 --> 00:19:53.480 or o o o o or my heart that says I love you I love 153 00:19:53.680 --> 00:20:11.480 you and there is nothing left but give and hard blah and surrender. Yes, 154 00:20:12.400 --> 00:20:22.160 the end of the Traffic and Road Safety Act has changed. We changed 155 00:20:22.240 --> 00:20:26.519 the rules because the way we moved has also changed. Therefore, now the 156 00:20:26.920 --> 00:20:30.200 deadline to recover the starting balance of points is two years, without committing violations 157 00:20:30.240 --> 00:20:34.240 that involve the loss of points, new times, new rules, Directorate General 158 00:20:34.759 --> 00:20:45.319 of Traffic, Ministry of the Interior, Government of Spain. The train of 159 00:20:45.400 --> 00:20:52.240 life, an exciting journey along the routes of the heart, an unforgettable trip 160 00:20:52.960 --> 00:21:37.079 at the rhythm of Trem Ladies and gentlemen, as we announced to you, 161 00:21:37.519 --> 00:21:44.880 we already have Salvador Martí online. And Salvador Martí is the president of the 162 00:21:45.000 --> 00:21:52.920 new Christian evangelical Party, which is called Faithful. It will explain to us 163 00:21:52.039 --> 00:22:00.319 a little bit the pedagogy, the dynamics and some parts of the party program, 164 00:22:00.480 --> 00:22:03.119 of a new party on the scene, on the Spanish stage, in 165 00:22:03.240 --> 00:22:08.400 Europe and games of this nature that, by the way, have had a 166 00:22:08.480 --> 00:22:11.839 great impact, as it has been in Holland, a positive impact. The 167 00:22:11.880 --> 00:22:17.039 family party also very interesting and have even been the key to the government at 168 00:22:17.640 --> 00:22:23.440 some times and still have an impact. There is a need for voices among 169 00:22:23.480 --> 00:22:30.920 this society of anti- values, of Christian values, in this Europe of 170 00:22:30.920 --> 00:22:33.400 Christianization and secularization to the fullest, because we have men. As I explained 171 00:22:33.440 --> 00:22:36.880 a little bit, I gave them a profile of my vision of Salvador Martin, 172 00:22:37.400 --> 00:22:42.480 a bold man, determined, courageous, honorable and, moreover, with 173 00:22:42.480 --> 00:22:49.680 a trajectory. Before this, very interesting, fighting in schools and in public 174 00:22:49.799 --> 00:22:56.720 conferences on the subject against bullying and against manipulations of the colonization of the ideology 175 00:22:57.000 --> 00:23:02.839 of people and in a good way in a good way, but one intentional 176 00:23:02.920 --> 00:23:10.480 way is that here we come beating all of us and even breaking the laws 177 00:23:10.720 --> 00:23:14.799 many times. Well, now we' ve got it and we' re 178 00:23:14.839 --> 00:23:18.799 going to talk a little bit about the party and why, a Christian party, 179 00:23:18.559 --> 00:23:22.960 why and why Salvador Martín himself tells us about it. Good morning, 180 00:23:22.119 --> 00:23:27.359 Dear Savior, very good morning, July, What a privilege to see you 181 00:23:27.480 --> 00:23:32.599 again, What a privilege to be back in your real program. Thank you, 182 00:23:33.000 --> 00:23:38.680 man, thank you, look at that in the middle, see that 183 00:23:38.759 --> 00:23:42.960 you dare to enter the political stage, in the midst of which is falling 184 00:23:42.960 --> 00:23:48.079 long ago. Well, Spanish politics has always been a bit agitated, but 185 00:23:48.079 --> 00:23:52.640 not as much as in recent years. In the last few years, she 186 00:23:52.640 --> 00:23:55.920 ' s muddy, some say. And those who say they' re muddled 187 00:23:55.960 --> 00:24:00.279 are the ones who defuse her. It' s funny, no, but 188 00:24:00.359 --> 00:24:04.279 those who defy her more than anyone else. But it is this hypocrisy that 189 00:24:04.559 --> 00:24:11.640 also exists sometimes. But the question of the boldness of going out into the 190 00:24:11.759 --> 00:24:15.599 political arena, what is the reason that there was in your mind and in 191 00:24:15.920 --> 00:24:21.519 you to throw you in the arena to Salvador, because Mira Julio. First 192 00:24:21.720 --> 00:24:25.160 of all, I' d tell you it was a very difficult decision to 193 00:24:25.160 --> 00:24:27.920 make. But when you feel God' s call, you cannot oppose him. 194 00:24:29.640 --> 00:24:32.880 I didn' t feel it in a very clear way. It was 195 00:24:32.920 --> 00:24:37.319 very difficult to take, because I would like that good for all those who 196 00:24:37.400 --> 00:24:42.759 are listening to us understand that when one has been working eight years as a 197 00:24:42.839 --> 00:24:47.119 personal escort for a mayor, well in this case two different mayors. When 198 00:24:47.240 --> 00:24:51.119 I say personal escort, because living your day by day, watching you work, 199 00:24:51.440 --> 00:24:55.440 seeing how politics works a little bit from within, I have to say 200 00:24:55.519 --> 00:24:57.400 that you are very reluctant to act in what is the world of politics. 201 00:24:59.640 --> 00:25:03.200 I wouldn' t also tell you it' s hard to make a decision. 202 00:25:03.240 --> 00:25:07.759 So because I think we all have the concept of politics and we always 203 00:25:07.799 --> 00:25:12.839 identify it as corruption. And to me there is something that made it very 204 00:25:12.920 --> 00:25:17.400 clear to me when the Lord called me to raise this faithful political party. 205 00:25:18.240 --> 00:25:22.400 Politics is not corrupt. Politics becomes corrupt when the men who use politics are 206 00:25:22.599 --> 00:25:30.640 corrupt. The policy used well used with fear of God, using men and 207 00:25:30.640 --> 00:25:36.000 women who are fearful of him. It' s a wonderful tool. And 208 00:25:36.000 --> 00:25:41.599 besides, I believe that God clearly calls us Christians to influence that area of 209 00:25:41.799 --> 00:25:48.000 society as necessary as politics is. And that' s where we really have 210 00:25:48.079 --> 00:25:52.200 to be light and come out because we' re living moments Julio. I 211 00:25:52.240 --> 00:25:55.680 think everyone' s conscious and whoever isn' t, I think it' 212 00:25:55.759 --> 00:25:57.839 s because he' s got some really big earmuffs in here like burritos. 213 00:25:59.440 --> 00:26:02.759 We' re seeing moments when you' ve crossed all the red lines. 214 00:26:03.240 --> 00:26:07.000 Has the whole red line been crossed with policies that directly attack the family, 215 00:26:07.480 --> 00:26:14.359 as God designed it, with policies that directly attack life? It has become 216 00:26:14.359 --> 00:26:18.400 normalized in this country, it has become normalized that they are exterminating 100, 217 00:26:18.400 --> 00:26:23.160 000 human lives in their mother' s womb every year, figures given by 218 00:26:23.240 --> 00:26:27.599 the Ministry of Health, not by me. And certain things have come to 219 00:26:27.720 --> 00:26:34.359 normalize by doing as the word says no, as the prophet Isaiah clearly told 220 00:26:34.519 --> 00:26:37.920 us, the times will come when it will normalize, when it will be 221 00:26:38.000 --> 00:26:41.880 done. The good will be seen as bad And the bad will be seen 222 00:26:41.960 --> 00:26:45.880 as good, as a right. And these are the times we are living 223 00:26:47.359 --> 00:26:51.480 in and July really, I here would not want to go into assessing whether 224 00:26:51.519 --> 00:26:53.440 it is an ideological question of the left, of the right. From me. 225 00:26:53.519 --> 00:26:56.880 I think this is an issue I have said on more than one occasion, 226 00:26:56.960 --> 00:27:02.759 but I clearly define it as a way to confront policies based on lies 227 00:27:02.960 --> 00:27:08.079 against truth- based policies. Nothing more and we had to act. God 228 00:27:08.519 --> 00:27:11.480 made it very clear to me that we had to act. And I saw 229 00:27:11.599 --> 00:27:18.039 it very clearly after being practically three years working with the Alexia project, seeing 230 00:27:18.160 --> 00:27:22.000 as a number of parents, sometimes they even came to beg me what I 231 00:27:22.119 --> 00:27:26.319 can do to defend my son against the issue of gender ideology. Many people 232 00:27:26.400 --> 00:27:33.039 affected by the issue of abortion save. We have to make real pro- 233 00:27:33.599 --> 00:27:38.279 life policies, pro- birth policies. It is amazing that it is being 234 00:27:38.319 --> 00:27:42.200 used as abortion is being used as a real business. This is a huge 235 00:27:42.319 --> 00:27:47.160 business. What is behind it and, of course, the attack itself that 236 00:27:47.240 --> 00:27:51.480 is against life and the time came when I said I have, I have 237 00:27:51.640 --> 00:27:56.920 to act. It' s not just about praying. True, it is 238 00:27:56.920 --> 00:27:57.559 very important, it is fundamental, it is the basis of everything. Let 239 00:27:57.759 --> 00:28:02.480 us not pray and ask God to change things, but God does not change 240 00:28:02.559 --> 00:28:07.160 things at the stroke of Truth Click, God uses us as tools and for 241 00:28:07.279 --> 00:28:11.680 us to change things is a matter of praying, but also of acting. 242 00:28:12.559 --> 00:28:19.240 Interesting. Final reflection. Look at the faithful party that is born with backbones 243 00:28:19.400 --> 00:28:25.039 of this political project in Christocentric vision, for example, the defense of life 244 00:28:25.160 --> 00:28:29.720 from conception to natural death, the defense of the family designed by God, 245 00:28:30.039 --> 00:28:34.240 as Salvador Martí told us. Right now, the defense of freedom in education, 246 00:28:34.400 --> 00:28:40.640 also a just and prosperous economy for our country and democratic regeneration, but 247 00:28:40.680 --> 00:28:45.759 not the other way around, as we were told in the perfomance this one 248 00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:52.680 that has had scandalous to our President, the regeneration of Modega to manipulate the 249 00:28:52.720 --> 00:29:00.680 judges and to cover their mouths and other programmers, a true democratic regeneration in 250 00:29:00.759 --> 00:29:03.079 which everyone has the right to have their space, even those in which we 251 00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:08.039 do not think, the anti- values, and such respect to them, 252 00:29:08.319 --> 00:29:12.119 but they have to respect others, who are millions in this country also true. 253 00:29:12.599 --> 00:29:15.519 This is the basic declaration of the party. There' s more to 254 00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:21.400 it. There is no idea, obviously it has taken us two years to 255 00:29:21.519 --> 00:29:26.400 do that we made an idealary with excellence in the light of the word when 256 00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:30.519 many people say it is that sometimes you give as a very religious image. 257 00:29:30.599 --> 00:29:33.640 Nothing further from reality. I, if I am precisely something is anti- 258 00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:40.319 religious, not identifying religion as such as what we all understand by religious person. 259 00:29:40.359 --> 00:29:42.759 We are not religious people. We are people who want to please God 260 00:29:44.119 --> 00:29:49.079 and we truly understand that the Bible is the perfect handbook for policy- making. 261 00:29:49.319 --> 00:29:52.359 In other words, the Bible tells us about social justice. The Bible 262 00:29:52.359 --> 00:29:56.880 tells us how to make a good education. The Bible tells us about all 263 00:29:56.880 --> 00:30:00.759 aspects of social life and, moreover, gives us a clear example as throughout 264 00:30:00.839 --> 00:30:04.119 history, God has used people within the realm of politics to make things work 265 00:30:04.200 --> 00:30:07.480 for a country, because when a country is less than God and does not 266 00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:14.359 turn its back on God, things usually go very well. And I look 267 00:30:14.400 --> 00:30:18.640 a lot at the example of Nagi Bokele, who for me is a reference 268 00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:22.039 as a God- fearing man, who has given a total transformation to El 269 00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:26.640 Salvador. And now we find a lot of countries around you that are saying 270 00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:30.200 we want the Bukel model, because deep down, it' s not the 271 00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:33.119 Bukel model. He is the model of being God- fearing when it comes 272 00:30:33.160 --> 00:30:37.160 to doing things, because he is a man who constantly manifests him. He 273 00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:41.160 wants to please God when it comes to doing things, and he has based 274 00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:48.440 his policies on this and is a very important part of what you have said 275 00:30:48.480 --> 00:30:52.279 of the foundations of faithful those. Five columns which, of course, the 276 00:30:52.319 --> 00:30:55.920 ideology is much broader, I repeat, but those are the basics. The 277 00:30:56.039 --> 00:30:59.440 foundations of faithful are based on the defense of life, they are based on 278 00:30:59.559 --> 00:31:02.440 the defense of freedom, on education, they are based on a just economy. 279 00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:07.079 They are based on such an important democratic regeneration. And when people say 280 00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:12.000 good and really, what do you think, when you think about democratic regeneration, 281 00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:15.960 then look, I think that a democratic regeneration must start, for example, 282 00:31:17.240 --> 00:31:19.359 with a basic and fundamental thing that is respecting us in this country, 283 00:31:19.839 --> 00:31:26.240 which is the real separation of powers. It cannot be that the legislative and 284 00:31:27.000 --> 00:31:33.279 executive branches are completely dominating and controlling the judiciary. Today, judges are not 285 00:31:33.400 --> 00:31:38.559 independent, they do not have the independence to decide. And we have the 286 00:31:38.680 --> 00:31:45.599 clearest and most obvious example with the Constitutional Court, the highest body of guarantees 287 00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:48.799 in this country, which is currently presided over by a person who is ideologically 288 00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:52.279 well defined. And then to me, when I hear some judges, to 289 00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:56.000 say no the judges are not ideologically marked. That' s uncertain. Judges 290 00:31:56.079 --> 00:32:01.160 have their own ideology, as practically any human being does. But it makes 291 00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:06.640 me unthinkable that a person who has been actively participating in politics in a particular 292 00:32:06.680 --> 00:32:12.480 party is then representing independence in a constitutional court with more and more guarantees. 293 00:32:13.839 --> 00:32:19.440 And we have there a person who has been actively participating in a certain party 294 00:32:19.480 --> 00:32:23.880 and ideology. So I believe that a true democratic regeneration begins there without separation 295 00:32:24.039 --> 00:32:29.279 of powers, but then we could continue with a number of questions. I 296 00:32:29.279 --> 00:32:34.720 mean, we' re valuing Julio Leyes, for example, to see that 297 00:32:34.759 --> 00:32:37.920 the politician who puts his hand in the drawer doesn' t get out of 298 00:32:37.960 --> 00:32:40.000 prison until he returns that money. I mean, and this would really be 299 00:32:40.119 --> 00:32:45.119 a navigating vision. Hey, you' re planning on ripping or stealing a 300 00:32:45.119 --> 00:32:47.519 billion from the public coffers. Well, then, let you know that until 301 00:32:47.559 --> 00:32:52.680 you lose money, you don' t get out of prison. And this 302 00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:57.680 we' re working with lawyers, because they tell us it' s really 303 00:32:57.680 --> 00:33:00.799 complicated. No, because it would be like a double penalty for the crime. 304 00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:02.839 No. But, well, I say there will be a way to 305 00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:06.720 do it. But this has to be stopped somehow. I mean, a 306 00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:12.799 politician can' t be free to say good theft a series of millions and 307 00:33:12.839 --> 00:33:15.759 in two or three years I' m out. And besides, since I 308 00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:19.960 ' ve put that money in tax havens, because when I get out and 309 00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:22.079 put up fronts, I' ll enjoy that money. There' s no 310 00:33:22.119 --> 00:33:23.599 problem, and then it' s assessed and I say it makes up for 311 00:33:23.599 --> 00:33:27.519 three years of pison. This is unthinkable. There are many people having a 312 00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:31.240 hard time in this country, paying their taxes religiously, making real sacrifices, 313 00:33:31.720 --> 00:33:36.839 so that other politicians are then stealing it and taking it away in a way 314 00:33:36.960 --> 00:33:39.079 that they know will have no consequences. And we could continue to talk about 315 00:33:39.200 --> 00:33:45.759 many things of democratic regeneration, because we are really aware that there are many 316 00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:50.720 people having a hard time in this country and with real difficulties to reach the 317 00:33:50.799 --> 00:33:52.119 end of the month to open their fridge and see what there is to feed 318 00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:54.960 their family. And yet, there are other politicians, because as recently, 319 00:33:55.279 --> 00:34:01.119 I read with great amazement that trying a budget of two hundred and fifty zero 320 00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:05.640 euros, which may seem a small amount, but it seems to me very 321 00:34:05.759 --> 00:34:10.000 large. Two hundred and fifty zero euros budgeted for the falcon in Geneva, 322 00:34:10.119 --> 00:34:15.519 whisky and anchovies exclusively. And now we have other people who have stopped working 323 00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:21.519 because they have family members prostrated in bed, dependent people who live with 400 324 00:34:21.639 --> 00:34:25.000 500 euros a month, while there are other games destined for whiskey, gin 325 00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:30.880 and anchovies of the falcon. To me this seems to me I do not 326 00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:37.239 know what word to use July, repulsive, puking and we could continue with 327 00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:39.440 a series of questions, that this is democratic regeneration. And Fiel has really 328 00:34:39.559 --> 00:34:47.280 come to serve in politics, not to use politics. Interesting, interesting descriptions, 329 00:34:47.480 --> 00:34:52.519 ladies and gentlemen, We are talking to Salvador Martí, President of the 330 00:34:52.519 --> 00:34:58.960 Faithful Party, in the Christian Party, in the evangelical Christian tolerance, with 331 00:34:59.039 --> 00:35:04.679 very interesting values that he is describing to us. We Christians have if the 332 00:35:04.760 --> 00:35:10.559 government becomes aware that believers are people of the vast majority of good and peace, 333 00:35:10.719 --> 00:35:17.760 that good practices are socially. Speaking, we are an important critical mass 334 00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:22.199 for good practices in every order of life. They' d pay us a 335 00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:27.199 little more attention. And the other thing that when you talk about democratic regeneration, 336 00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:31.599 for example, I think that another flank to be attacked is the Members. 337 00:35:32.840 --> 00:35:37.119 I mean it. Some do, some do to some extent or to 338 00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:44.880 a greater extent, but the vast majority have many preventatives and work very little, 339 00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:49.760 very little. They have hardly any connection with civil society in the pre 340 00:35:50.719 --> 00:35:58.400 - campaigns, above all, and then this would be a matter of keeping 341 00:35:58.480 --> 00:36:02.760 in mind that they have to work and then civil society has no voice. 342 00:36:04.480 --> 00:36:07.400 Barely good Sometimes there is populism, this one that in the end has been 343 00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:12.480 a total fiasco, which was born with the fifteen meters with the theme where 344 00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:16.400 it was born, we can and then destroyed itself. But the thing is, 345 00:36:17.360 --> 00:36:24.000 there is no civil society. They have no voice, they do not 346 00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:30.760 have the currents of civil society, they do not have easy access to public 347 00:36:31.119 --> 00:36:35.280 life to make themselves heard. And then there must also be parties that give 348 00:36:35.360 --> 00:36:39.440 voice to civil society. Not the unions, like yesterday they are two unions 349 00:36:39.519 --> 00:36:45.519 that are in favor of the government in every way and clearly and sing it, 350 00:36:46.039 --> 00:36:53.199 sings the song from la la la to the ruling political party. Of 351 00:36:53.280 --> 00:36:58.480 course there was someone who would also say unions of another nature. I mean 352 00:36:58.599 --> 00:37:04.360 civil society, which has to have more presence, its democratic regeneration, and 353 00:37:04.519 --> 00:37:07.280 politicians have to control them because they do not strike a blow. Almost most 354 00:37:07.360 --> 00:37:10.159 of them, and I' m telling you that for reasons of knowledge. 355 00:37:10.599 --> 00:37:13.880 I don' t know if you agree with me on that, but I, 356 00:37:14.440 --> 00:37:19.039 as a journalist, totally watch that Julio. I absolutely agree, and 357 00:37:19.079 --> 00:37:23.159 I am also part of that population that is full of feeling that politicians are 358 00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:27.519 taking advantage of it. I mean, we' re all right. It 359 00:37:27.559 --> 00:37:30.280 comes to the electoral era, they start giving us our ears. We started 360 00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:34.679 to hear politicians talk about me continuing to live in the neighborhood, greeting my 361 00:37:34.719 --> 00:37:37.480 baker and I' ll continue if I' m going to fight the caste. 362 00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:44.239 That message he used can be even satiety and convinced millions of people who 363 00:37:44.320 --> 00:37:47.679 thought they were voting for a party that came to end caste, with the 364 00:37:47.679 --> 00:37:52.239 privileges of politicians, with that disconnect that has always been between politicians and ordinary 365 00:37:52.599 --> 00:37:58.440 citizens. And all this, in the end people, have been disappointed and 366 00:37:58.519 --> 00:38:00.760 say but good for what politicians are here to laugh at us, to get 367 00:38:00.760 --> 00:38:04.320 our vote. And then, already, if I' ve seen you, 368 00:38:04.519 --> 00:38:08.280 I don' t remember all this. We are fully aware in faithful and 369 00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:14.000 how important it really is that there is that connection that I translate into humility 370 00:38:14.079 --> 00:38:20.920 in the end. Never lose humility to know, to keep listening to people 371 00:38:20.960 --> 00:38:24.400 and their needs. We have an infidel slogan that is enough to talk about. 372 00:38:25.159 --> 00:38:29.440 It' s time we got the act crossed out and we' ve 373 00:38:29.440 --> 00:38:30.920 put it on. It' s time to listen. It' s just 374 00:38:31.000 --> 00:38:32.920 that you have to listen to the citizens and their problems. I mean, 375 00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:37.920 we have to be aware of politics. It' s to serve the people, 376 00:38:38.239 --> 00:38:42.800 not to serve you with it and fill your pockets. We are here 377 00:38:42.800 --> 00:38:45.400 to serve, to try a more just society, a more balanced society, 378 00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:52.239 that the truly needy can have access to jobs. That this is another policy 379 00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:55.159 that I really say to myself. But how can it be possible that there 380 00:38:55.280 --> 00:39:00.480 are many people subject to the issue of aid, living effortlessly, without looking 381 00:39:00.559 --> 00:39:04.559 for a job is that a just society, a just economy, is not 382 00:39:04.639 --> 00:39:07.960 based on being completely all the time subsidizing now what the government has just done. 383 00:39:08.039 --> 00:39:10.639 Well four hundred euros for young people to spend on video consoles and I 384 00:39:10.840 --> 00:39:14.960 don' t know what stories. It' s not about this. It 385 00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:17.000 ' s not about this. It' s about getting our young people out 386 00:39:17.079 --> 00:39:21.880 of work, that we have young people who come out super- prepared from 387 00:39:21.920 --> 00:39:24.360 universities and have to be going to other countries. It' s about being 388 00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:29.800 a bit of a demanding truth when you hear it. If you are called 389 00:39:29.880 --> 00:39:34.199 from the Employment Office and you refuse a job, but what is it about 390 00:39:34.199 --> 00:39:36.719 continuing to collect unemployment? No, it' s not that this one doesn 391 00:39:36.800 --> 00:39:40.960 ' t suit me or YuYu and work on weekends and work on Hey that 392 00:39:40.960 --> 00:39:45.079 this is being offered you a job out. Then people start to settle down 393 00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:49.000 and they don' t realize that in the background, because the government wants 394 00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:52.000 what it wants. Many times I compare it with a communist system. Don 395 00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:55.039 ' t worry that Dad State is going to give you everything and he' 396 00:39:55.159 --> 00:39:58.519 s going to cover absolutely without you making any effort at all. This is 397 00:39:58.639 --> 00:40:01.000 also not the case when there is a fair economy. Not that it seems 398 00:40:01.039 --> 00:40:06.280 that values like effort, discipline, these words already as identified. It' 399 00:40:06.320 --> 00:40:07.039 s not like you' re already a facha if you say that no. 400 00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:12.679 If you talk to our young people about effort or discipline, perseverance, no, 401 00:40:12.800 --> 00:40:14.639 no, no. No. No. I' ll have my minimum. 402 00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:16.960 I don' t know about you, Julio, but I' ve 403 00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:21.559 gone to a lot of young people to talk that I' m going to 404 00:40:21.639 --> 00:40:22.119 leave on the weekends Ova to work on time. You, when I' 405 00:40:22.119 --> 00:40:24.639 m taking it warm with a thousand twenty- five euros in my house. 406 00:40:25.119 --> 00:40:29.239 I' m not complicating myself, I' m making it easy. Yes, 407 00:40:29.360 --> 00:40:31.840 yes, where it is then together that our grandparents and our parents did 408 00:40:31.920 --> 00:40:37.440 to lift up this country what is going on this way the culture of effort, 409 00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:39.280 of minimal effort is inculturation. Don' t look. Yesterday I was 410 00:40:39.360 --> 00:40:44.719 doing a post on my wall and I was saying a journalistial blast World Day 411 00:40:44.760 --> 00:40:51.239 of the Workers and the Gandules. Undoubtedly, there are just illegitimate demands in 412 00:40:51.360 --> 00:40:54.679 various aspects of the world of work, but self- criticism is also necessary 413 00:40:54.800 --> 00:41:00.039 and is that in broad sectors of the labour movement labour responsibilities are not adequately 414 00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:06.199 fulfilled. The incultura of work in Spain is overwhelming. Earn more and work 415 00:41:06.280 --> 00:41:12.159 less. Scaking subsidies and work axentism is a widespread practice. There are thousands 416 00:41:12.320 --> 00:41:17.199 of jobs available that the Spaniards do not want to occupy in the driving of 417 00:41:17.480 --> 00:41:22.840 trucks and buses, in the construction works, that there are hundreds of thousands 418 00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:27.599 of places in the hotel and in many other sectors. And then we complain 419 00:41:28.039 --> 00:41:31.880 that we are being invaded by legions of foreigners who do want to work on 420 00:41:31.920 --> 00:41:36.719 whatever it takes to earn their bread. I mean, this is a self 421 00:41:38.760 --> 00:41:42.280 - critical exhibition Let' s go ten. I don' t take a 422 00:41:42.440 --> 00:41:44.679 comma out of that July, because this is the reality we have. It 423 00:41:44.760 --> 00:41:46.559 ' s my turn to talk a lot to good. We are working all 424 00:41:46.599 --> 00:41:52.039 day in churches with the Alexia project. I listen to the amount of Latin 425 00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:54.840 American population that tells me to save. We come to this country to earn 426 00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:59.920 bread and sustenance. We are ready to welcome any work you offer us. 427 00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:02.760 There' s a lot of people we all know, they' re working 428 00:42:02.840 --> 00:42:05.400 there because they' re getting real difficulties that this thing I don' t 429 00:42:05.400 --> 00:42:08.440 understand. Why so much difficulty for the Latin American community. And it seems 430 00:42:08.519 --> 00:42:13.440 that for everything that is Muslim culture, here they are all aids and they 431 00:42:13.719 --> 00:42:16.960 are all subsidies. Then a person who comes to earn the bread of his 432 00:42:17.039 --> 00:42:22.960 children and wants to work honestly, what we would do without the Latin American 433 00:42:22.039 --> 00:42:25.159 community in this country in general, total number of people who are occupying, 434 00:42:25.360 --> 00:42:30.239 posts like you have put in your post that our own Spanish young people do 435 00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:36.800 not want and that they are covering and are supporting the economy of this country 436 00:42:36.960 --> 00:42:42.440 because they are in services that nobody wants to collect fruit in the hospitality field, 437 00:42:43.320 --> 00:42:45.239 drivers change there is an impressive demand and these jobs are covering us in 438 00:42:45.239 --> 00:42:49.760 the Community. Why do you stick so hard to get your papers? Why 439 00:42:49.880 --> 00:42:52.000 so much hits, as he told me the other day, a Cuban doctor 440 00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:57.519 hears save why so much hits to validate our titles. It turns out that 441 00:42:57.559 --> 00:43:01.760 here come psychologists, doctors who come with their degrees from Peru, Bolivia, 442 00:43:02.239 --> 00:43:07.679 Colombia and a thousand and one pastes to validate and to be able to be 443 00:43:07.760 --> 00:43:10.199 here working. He' s not a doctor, he' s not as 444 00:43:10.239 --> 00:43:15.199 good, I say, and he' s not as deformed in Colombia or 445 00:43:15.239 --> 00:43:16.360 Peru, that he could be here in Spain. I consider that yes, 446 00:43:16.639 --> 00:43:22.159 then, why so much trouble to validate degrees? These are not the problems 447 00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:24.119 that are on the order of the day and the truth that we are. 448 00:43:24.360 --> 00:43:29.679 I don' t know shaping a society that there are so many things, 449 00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:32.920 truth that change and so many things that work and we are faithful, we 450 00:43:34.480 --> 00:43:37.239 are knowledgeable and aware of it. And well, now with humility, but 451 00:43:37.239 --> 00:43:40.599 of course, with great desire, we want to change things in this society 452 00:43:40.719 --> 00:43:44.840 for the sake of our own society, with the help of God. That 453 00:43:44.960 --> 00:43:49.679 ' s interesting. Salva Salvador, Hey Salvador Good by the way, going 454 00:43:49.760 --> 00:43:52.920 to the concrete, now I call the attention of our listeners to take good 455 00:43:53.039 --> 00:43:59.800 note look. I know we have the next election contest. Let' s 456 00:43:59.800 --> 00:44:04.719 say that in the word. It is typically the Europeans that we have before 457 00:44:05.519 --> 00:44:09.280 us and where they appear faithful, but it is also necessary that believers, 458 00:44:09.800 --> 00:44:15.480 both evangelical and Catholic, in good faith and people who do not have religious 459 00:44:15.480 --> 00:44:22.639 affiliations, but have an approach to affection for Christian values. Please note that 460 00:44:22.719 --> 00:44:28.360 now we need to mobilise tell us the challenge of Fiel' s candidacy for 461 00:44:28.480 --> 00:44:31.960 Europeans. Look Julio, you' ve done a math that I' ve 462 00:44:32.119 --> 00:44:35.840 loved, because there are a lot of people who say ah that well, 463 00:44:35.840 --> 00:44:38.440 an evangelical party. We are not really an evangelical party nor do we even 464 00:44:38.480 --> 00:44:43.800 represent the Angelic Church. We are people who make up Faithful your directive, 465 00:44:44.480 --> 00:44:49.119 we are people who share Christian principles and values. Well, then we' 466 00:44:49.199 --> 00:44:52.599 re open to what you just said and, in fact, there working with 467 00:44:52.679 --> 00:44:55.559 us people who are autonomy. I am Catholic, but I love Jesus deeply 468 00:44:57.000 --> 00:45:00.119 I love life. I want to defend life, I want to defend the 469 00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:04.159 family, even people have found them. Julio, you tell me, look, 470 00:45:04.199 --> 00:45:06.480 I' m not a believer. I don' t believe in God, 471 00:45:06.719 --> 00:45:08.599 but I can assure you that yes, that I believe that the family 472 00:45:08.679 --> 00:45:12.880 must be father, mother and children, and I can guarantee that I also 473 00:45:12.960 --> 00:45:16.079 love life and am against abortion. Welcome, welcome to this party that we 474 00:45:16.320 --> 00:45:21.159 promote Christian principles and values. Not then. This is an excellent appreciation, 475 00:45:21.239 --> 00:45:23.480 because there are many clear people who want to like close the quota and say 476 00:45:23.519 --> 00:45:25.960 ah is that this is a thing of evangelical alone, not least, very 477 00:45:27.519 --> 00:45:30.880 much a reality that the truth, that the board of directors is composed fundamentally 478 00:45:30.039 --> 00:45:34.599 of evangelical Christian people, but that we are open to what you have just 479 00:45:34.599 --> 00:45:37.239 explained. And then the next challenge we have, because it is the European 480 00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:42.119 elections that will be on 9 June. But in order to present ourselves as 481 00:45:42.719 --> 00:45:46.679 a party, we are encountering a great difficulty that the electoral board itself puts 482 00:45:46.800 --> 00:45:52.599 it, when it only gives us twenty days to collect fifteen zero signatures and 483 00:45:52.679 --> 00:45:55.119 clearly we have been calling insistently OIGA. But how is the signature collection model 484 00:45:55.119 --> 00:45:59.320 going to be, because we want to prepare ourselves. Until the last day 485 00:46:00.519 --> 00:46:02.360 the period of collection of signatures was opened, they did not say it and 486 00:46:02.440 --> 00:46:06.360 clearly it was the worst way it could be, which is like all life 487 00:46:06.960 --> 00:46:09.679 by hand, sign by hand and fill the paper by hand. Of course, 488 00:46:09.960 --> 00:46:14.480 this takes away a lot of possibilities, because to remove the digital signature 489 00:46:14.480 --> 00:46:17.280 that one can affirm his surname, because like any campaign that makes I know 490 00:46:17.360 --> 00:46:22.239 theorrogo to Christians, or digital campaign that you can sign. No, no, 491 00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:25.920 no, not by hand and paper and don' t bend the paper 492 00:46:27.000 --> 00:46:29.440 and don' t have a stain and don' t get out of the 493 00:46:29.440 --> 00:46:31.599 painting. And in the end, you see that what they want is that 494 00:46:31.719 --> 00:46:36.519 the emerging parties, like ours, because we are put all kinds of obstacles 495 00:46:36.599 --> 00:46:40.800 and the already established majority parties have no problem, because they have it very 496 00:46:40.840 --> 00:46:45.840 easy. They don' t need even the fifteen zero signatures, they with 497 00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:49.679 fifty elected positions of their own party that they already support have to call it 498 00:46:49.719 --> 00:46:52.840 fifty councillors, fifty deputies, fifty that sign and in twenty- four hours, 499 00:46:53.119 --> 00:46:55.639 they already have the issue of being able to present themselves. No, 500 00:46:57.039 --> 00:47:00.880 but we' re not fifteen zero signatures and by hand. This is costing 501 00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:07.199 us sweat and tears, blood, not now, thank God, but sweat 502 00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:10.559 and tears, lots of tears. Sometimes when you stand in front of the 503 00:47:10.559 --> 00:47:13.920 lord and say. Sir, I know you' re in control, I 504 00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:16.559 know you make the times, but how do we do this, because I 505 00:47:16.599 --> 00:47:19.840 can' t give more of myself. I move to Barcelona, I move 506 00:47:19.840 --> 00:47:22.760 to Madrid, as I have moved. I dressed up the Gijón. I 507 00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:27.199 ' m moving. But this is very much a work like an ant, 508 00:47:27.400 --> 00:47:31.719 because we find another great wall Julio and it is that in the institutions themselves, 509 00:47:32.480 --> 00:47:38.840 our insides, many people are putting us on with the following argument. 510 00:47:40.440 --> 00:47:44.679 It' s not that Christian and political. No, it' s not 511 00:47:44.760 --> 00:47:46.639 like we shouldn' t stir things up. It is not that we must 512 00:47:46.679 --> 00:47:51.679 maintain neutrality. But let' s see. But what neutrality we are in 513 00:47:51.800 --> 00:47:55.280 a spiritual battle of good, as I have said, of truth- based 514 00:47:55.320 --> 00:48:00.679 policies against lying- based policies. What neutrality we have to command to have 515 00:48:00.760 --> 00:48:05.039 in this kind of battle If God has risen a party of men and women 516 00:48:05.039 --> 00:48:08.519 temonos of him who want to have central Christ policies that please him. In 517 00:48:08.599 --> 00:48:13.679 this battle we are faced with those who have policies that encourage abortion, that 518 00:48:13.800 --> 00:48:17.960 encourage sixteen models of family that encourage returning home alone and drunk, that encourage 519 00:48:19.119 --> 00:48:22.480 children to have sex with adults, because this has been said by a minister 520 00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:27.280 of a socialist party, saying children have the right to love and have sex 521 00:48:27.320 --> 00:48:32.440 with whomever they want. Then these policies that we want to confront and which 522 00:48:32.440 --> 00:48:37.000 we want to fight. What neutrality there is here. Yes, I believe 523 00:48:37.039 --> 00:48:40.119 that there must be no neutrality here. Here there must be a position to 524 00:48:40.199 --> 00:48:45.159 say dear brothers in faith. Thank God and Loredo is that a party of 525 00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:47.960 brave men and women who are willing to pay the price has been raised, 526 00:48:49.280 --> 00:48:52.000 because this is very hard to carry forward. The attacks are tremendous. Julio 527 00:48:52.360 --> 00:48:57.559 could do a program in which he could explain to you spiritual battle that we 528 00:48:57.559 --> 00:49:00.239 are maintaining. But spiritual battle what would you say? But how is this 529 00:49:00.360 --> 00:49:05.159 possible, how can you be holding this. Because God gives us the strength, 530 00:49:05.480 --> 00:49:07.000 because Uncle gives us vision, because if not, I had thrown the 531 00:49:07.079 --> 00:49:13.199 towel of this long ago, long ago. I mean, because to me, 532 00:49:13.239 --> 00:49:15.119 the gentleman called me to raise this party Julio, called me to be 533 00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:17.360 an engine. But I' m not even going to be a Eurocandidate. 534 00:49:17.519 --> 00:49:21.400 Why. Because I' m with my Alexia project. I can' t 535 00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:23.199 leave my Alexia project now and say well, I abandon the LEXI project and 536 00:49:23.239 --> 00:49:25.039 I dedicate myself to politics. No. No, no, no, God 537 00:49:25.119 --> 00:49:29.920 called me to keep giving tools to children in preventing child sexual abuse. I 538 00:49:29.960 --> 00:49:32.239 can' t leave that, but I' m giving it all to myself 539 00:49:32.360 --> 00:49:37.559 to be an engine and push this political project forward. And thank God he 540 00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:42.920 has given me a series of men and women who are like my Praetorian guard, 541 00:49:43.400 --> 00:49:46.079 who support me, who have understood that vision and who are fully supporting 542 00:49:46.119 --> 00:49:51.320 it. But of course, we need help from inside Julio, not rocks 543 00:49:51.360 --> 00:49:54.480 on the road. What people are saying is not that we have encountered recommendations 544 00:49:54.519 --> 00:50:02.880 that we should not even be heard within our own people. Julio, how 545 00:50:02.920 --> 00:50:06.559 do you understand that? Yeah, don' t let him hear us. 546 00:50:06.639 --> 00:50:08.800 Why, why don' t people have the right to know that a political 547 00:50:08.920 --> 00:50:13.800 party is born as faithful. Then everyone who does with their vote whatever they 548 00:50:13.800 --> 00:50:15.519 want. No one' s asking for the vote I' m not asking 549 00:50:15.519 --> 00:50:17.719 for the vote. When I' m going to talk to pastor frats or 550 00:50:17.760 --> 00:50:20.000 I' m in a church, I don' t ask for the vote. 551 00:50:20.199 --> 00:50:22.920 I explain that there is an alternative and that, thank God, they 552 00:50:22.960 --> 00:50:25.199 have made a match with these values. Now you vote conscience, but give 553 00:50:25.239 --> 00:50:34.239 me the opportunity to explain this project. Yes, I would like to stress 554 00:50:34.400 --> 00:50:40.519 this also the importance of what I mean in public awareness, both of believers 555 00:50:40.920 --> 00:50:46.920 and non- believers. When some say good it is that in the time 556 00:50:47.000 --> 00:50:53.079 of new testaments democracy is clear. There is democracy, democracy propitiates us all 557 00:50:53.280 --> 00:50:58.920 to participate and it is a game. They say, it' s the 558 00:50:59.000 --> 00:51:02.760 least bad of political systems. It' s the least bad. But we 559 00:51:02.760 --> 00:51:09.800 want, if we really want to have a voice, presence, prominence and 560 00:51:09.880 --> 00:51:17.159 achieve some things, as has happened with the Christian Party of Christian Non- 561 00:51:17.400 --> 00:51:22.599 Democrat Christian Democratic in Holland, which has had a significant presence and influence in 562 00:51:22.719 --> 00:51:29.599 the political life of the country, with very important laws, which has conditioned 563 00:51:29.639 --> 00:51:32.679 them or revoked them in some cases. I think as far as you can, 564 00:51:34.320 --> 00:51:37.960 even in a good way, with good arts. I almost understood myself 565 00:51:38.039 --> 00:51:42.880 today in the democratic game, which and there we do have room for Christians. 566 00:51:44.440 --> 00:51:47.639 Of course if someone has a vocation and a political call, doing so 567 00:51:47.679 --> 00:51:53.239 as you are proposing with Christian values ahead much better than because if you scurry 568 00:51:53.480 --> 00:51:58.480 in a given party, you are going to be told this. If you 569 00:51:58.519 --> 00:52:01.159 go to the other you go to the other you' re the other one 570 00:52:01.599 --> 00:52:09.119 they' re going to tell you that you' re what they want to 571 00:52:09.239 --> 00:52:15.840 say, but they have their own identity and a Christian nature in their pure 572 00:52:16.280 --> 00:52:22.880 total essence of everything, good practices and political diary and also with biblical values 573 00:52:22.880 --> 00:52:25.039 that are functional, that are not inoperative. It means this. It must 574 00:52:25.159 --> 00:52:30.599 be valued. It must be valued. The truth of all this effort and 575 00:52:30.679 --> 00:52:35.719 now we have the opportunity what we can do or what our listeners can do 576 00:52:35.719 --> 00:52:40.920 to cooperate, because look what we now need July in an urgent vital way 577 00:52:42.079 --> 00:52:45.280 if we really want to be able to present ourselves in Europe is the support 578 00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:45.320 of these fifteen zero signatures. Okay, I' ll be very honest with 579 00:52:45.320 --> 00:52:50.079 you. Julio. So far we go far below. We will be around 580 00:52:50.119 --> 00:52:53.360 the four zero signatures and the deadline ends on Monday has been that there have 581 00:52:53.400 --> 00:52:57.400 been a lot of people working, moving everywhere, through Galicia, by Gihon. 582 00:52:57.880 --> 00:53:00.280 But, I repeat, when we are put in a position where we 583 00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:04.960 cannot even present ourselves, because we are going very little by little, then 584 00:53:04.960 --> 00:53:08.639 we have a chance, last chance. This Saturday in Madrid, I will 585 00:53:08.639 --> 00:53:14.639 be with Juan José Cortés. It is part of the Directive of Faithfulness. 586 00:53:15.159 --> 00:53:17.360 I think we all remember Juan José is a very dear person in Spain. 587 00:53:17.679 --> 00:53:22.159 We know he' s a shepherd who lost his daughter to a predator many 588 00:53:22.199 --> 00:53:25.880 years ago. He is a highly respected person, with a very good testimony 589 00:53:25.920 --> 00:53:31.159 and already engaged in politics with another political party, but he understood that this 590 00:53:31.199 --> 00:53:36.119 was truly his place and that he responded well. I will be with Juan 591 00:53:36.199 --> 00:53:39.400 José Cortés, we will be at the Puerta del Sol with a small table 592 00:53:40.239 --> 00:53:45.400 and one with a faithful role, collecting signatures. Sure, we' ve 593 00:53:45.480 --> 00:53:47.199 got eleven zero signatures. We' re gonna have to pick up on a 594 00:53:47.199 --> 00:53:50.400 Saturday. It' ll be possible, I don' t know. God 595 00:53:50.519 --> 00:53:52.920 knows the times, but we will give in Puerta del Sol from ten in 596 00:53:52.960 --> 00:53:57.000 the morning to two in the afternoon and then we will be around the event 597 00:53:57.079 --> 00:54:00.239 so wonderful that there will be fire in your bones, in the surroundings, 598 00:54:00.440 --> 00:54:04.199 because we will fully respect the event itself. There we are not going to 599 00:54:04.480 --> 00:54:07.800 get inside, but in the surroundings of access to the event we will also 600 00:54:08.159 --> 00:54:12.800 be with different collection tables, of signatures of faithful so that everyone who is 601 00:54:12.840 --> 00:54:15.519 from Madrid and wants to approach and that has to share with us these values, 602 00:54:16.519 --> 00:54:20.840 these principles and think that this is a reality. We want to give 603 00:54:20.880 --> 00:54:24.719 you the opportunity that you can present there, we will be collecting signatures in 604 00:54:24.800 --> 00:54:29.159 a face- to- face way and it will be the last opportunity, 605 00:54:29.559 --> 00:54:32.559 the last push, because if we don' t get there, well, 606 00:54:32.559 --> 00:54:32.559 we can' t introduce ourselves to Europeans and there will end the life of 607 00:54:32.559 --> 00:54:36.760 faithful. We are not in the process of building and, in fact, 608 00:54:36.960 --> 00:54:38.920 all that has happened so far has been a real miracle, because we presented 609 00:54:39.039 --> 00:54:45.039 ourselves to society on 19 January and in three months miracles have occurred in this 610 00:54:45.079 --> 00:54:51.199 party of the people that God has put in the party. I want to 611 00:54:51.280 --> 00:54:55.840 comment on a very beautiful testimony of a person, an entrepreneur named Jesus, 612 00:54:57.000 --> 00:55:00.800 who owns footics. It is very well known level of Spain, why this 613 00:55:00.880 --> 00:55:05.679 man loves God so much and that when he met Fiel and I went to 614 00:55:05.719 --> 00:55:13.239 expose the project personally we ate together, he said to Salva I love how 615 00:55:13.320 --> 00:55:16.800 I feel about the Lord completely and he, on an economic level, made 616 00:55:16.800 --> 00:55:21.239 a very important contribution, because we had no means, we were paying the 617 00:55:21.280 --> 00:55:23.280 gasoline ourselves to move to the places. He made us a very important financial 618 00:55:23.400 --> 00:55:28.760 contribution and then he told us everything you need for signage, forms, everything 619 00:55:28.840 --> 00:55:31.199 that has to do With all this, I' m going to give it 620 00:55:31.320 --> 00:55:36.039 to you, I don' t give it to you, it' s 621 00:55:36.119 --> 00:55:37.639 not going to be a problem and he got involved in such a way that 622 00:55:37.639 --> 00:55:42.559 we said. Thank you, sir, because without people like him, a 623 00:55:42.639 --> 00:55:45.519 party without resources. Forget where we are going anywhere, and the Lord has 624 00:55:45.519 --> 00:55:49.800 put people of this profile and besides, I want to take advantage of that 625 00:55:49.920 --> 00:55:52.800 to publicly thank Jesus, because the truth is that it was his help. 626 00:55:52.880 --> 00:55:58.280 It was, it has been determining and like him, other people, like 627 00:55:58.360 --> 00:56:00.519 him, other people who are joining. And so, well, at the 628 00:56:00.599 --> 00:56:07.559 level of knowledge, because psychologists, lawyers, doctors are saying we want to 629 00:56:07.599 --> 00:56:10.559 collaborate, we want to contribute. No, and that' s where we 630 00:56:12.239 --> 00:56:15.000 ' re settled, working on this party. Because I' m telling you 631 00:56:15.079 --> 00:56:17.039 one thing, Julio. The Europeans are already here on ship in June, 632 00:56:17.119 --> 00:56:20.760 but I do not think it will take more than a year for this President 633 00:56:20.840 --> 00:56:23.239 to convene a general. Hey, I think this government is unsustainable, unsustainable 634 00:56:23.360 --> 00:56:28.960 this. Elections are in sight, at most from here, next spring. 635 00:56:30.280 --> 00:56:34.119 We have an election call. Sure, sure, sure. This bursts, 636 00:56:34.280 --> 00:56:37.360 of course, not on the one hand, on several, but where they 637 00:56:37.360 --> 00:56:44.039 can be directed. Also for there is a party website as well or as 638 00:56:44.320 --> 00:56:45.800 for itself, not that. I didn' t say the last chance in 639 00:56:45.800 --> 00:56:50.800 the face. Why, because whoever wants to support with clear signature has to 640 00:56:50.800 --> 00:56:53.599 be the signature is manual. Then I wouldn' t have to mail it. 641 00:56:53.639 --> 00:56:58.119 But there is no deadline anymore, because Julio, even if he wants 642 00:56:58.280 --> 00:57:00.679 to send a person by clear urgent mail to the clear surfirma, will not 643 00:57:00.679 --> 00:57:05.440 arrive. Today is a holiday in Madrid. Tomorrow e- mails in one 644 00:57:05.480 --> 00:57:07.559 day don' t do anything. Then we have already been postponed the deadline 645 00:57:07.559 --> 00:57:09.480 by which they can send it to us. So what we' re doing 646 00:57:09.559 --> 00:57:14.519 is physically picking up, because today they were bringing me here to achieve already 647 00:57:14.599 --> 00:57:16.079 home signatures or there are people at other points that are collecting those signatures. 648 00:57:16.280 --> 00:57:19.400 Okay, but let' s get them, face- to- face. 649 00:57:19.760 --> 00:57:23.440 That is why the only option that there is that one who sits in solidarity 650 00:57:23.679 --> 00:57:25.639 with us wants to give an option. It is Saturday at the two points 651 00:57:25.679 --> 00:57:31.039 I have said from ten to two, door of the sun Juan José Cortés 652 00:57:31.599 --> 00:57:35.719 and in the afternoon, between five and nine we will be in the around 653 00:57:35.760 --> 00:57:37.679 the square that I have not said before, it is called the square Goiti 654 00:57:37.880 --> 00:57:44.400 alone i alone near Atocha. That' s where we' re gonna pick 655 00:57:44.400 --> 00:57:47.920 up those signatures. This programme will be heard again throughout the Community of Madrid 656 00:57:47.960 --> 00:57:53.079 on Saturday morning at 9 a m. It means that the listeners who are 657 00:57:53.360 --> 00:57:59.159 aware are going to take note and surroundings in other cities around, so that 658 00:57:59.800 --> 00:58:05.760 we still take back that it is a speaker that some are saying caramba. 659 00:58:06.639 --> 00:58:08.119 So I' m going to approach the Puerta del Sol and, if I 660 00:58:08.239 --> 00:58:14.199 don' t approach the square in the afternoon to the Goti Park, only 661 00:58:14.239 --> 00:58:16.519 where there' s the fire event in your bones with Niki Crud Gety Wilson, 662 00:58:16.519 --> 00:58:23.320 etcetera. But in the morning, there will be this embassy with Salvador 663 00:58:23.480 --> 00:58:29.679 Martí of the Faithful Party, collecting signatures in situ, of course because it 664 00:58:29.679 --> 00:58:34.000 has to be so, well, there is open the total possibility, because 665 00:58:34.119 --> 00:58:37.519 there it is necessary to mobilize. It' s time for action and any 666 00:58:37.519 --> 00:58:38.920 purpose matters to me. Really July, there are people here who are going 667 00:58:38.960 --> 00:58:42.599 to think of one more signature. He' s not going, please, 668 00:58:43.280 --> 00:58:45.360 we need him. That is, we are calling for anyone who identifies with 669 00:58:45.440 --> 00:58:50.760 this party and with these values, because they are there because we need their 670 00:58:50.880 --> 00:58:55.159 signature. So this, in the end look at our party slogan. Let 671 00:58:55.320 --> 00:58:59.039 ' s not do it together. Let' s do it together. Not 672 00:58:59.239 --> 00:59:02.800 because we, by ourselves, can' t do things. And it' 673 00:59:02.840 --> 00:59:07.360 s very important that people, because they realize that we need that support and 674 00:59:07.519 --> 00:59:10.519 that signature. Today, Julio, I really appreciate you being a speaker for 675 00:59:12.039 --> 00:59:15.440 this initiative, because now, right now, we needed it. I know 676 00:59:15.480 --> 00:59:20.960 that your program is very often, that you are a person of blameless reputation 677 00:59:21.039 --> 00:59:24.679 for this and I know that many people, because they will hear it not 678 00:59:25.000 --> 00:59:28.559 and will perhaps touch their heart and be able to sign. So, thank 679 00:59:28.800 --> 00:59:32.400 you very much for one with pleasure, Salvador. And we have to move 680 00:59:32.440 --> 00:59:37.519 on, because there you know, gentlemen and gentlemen, this Saturday, starting 681 00:59:37.760 --> 00:59:39.559 at ten o' clock in the morning, at Puerta del Sol, there 682 00:59:40.119 --> 00:59:45.519 is an appointment with Salvador Martí, President of Fiel and his team that will 683 00:59:45.559 --> 00:59:51.599 be collecting signatures from the third record to present on Monday the candidacy for the 684 00:59:51.679 --> 00:59:55.599 European selections. It is urgent that we all mobilize and that we go and 685 00:59:55.719 --> 01:00:01.159 we are all good people that listen to this and stop prejudices that are not 686 01:00:01.320 --> 01:00:07.440 come to the case and that, moreover, they are not true in a 687 01:00:07.840 --> 01:00:14.000 sense, They are more imaginary prejudices and pretexts, because dear friend, I 688 01:00:14.039 --> 01:00:19.199 send you a very affectionate hug and we will continue in contact clearly that yes 689 01:00:19.320 --> 01:00:23.760 we know in contact fully you know that always at your disposal and I truly 690 01:00:23.880 --> 01:01:15.480 wish that God bless you thanks a saving embrace until always chao the train of 691 01:01:15.800 --> 01:01:30.039 life, life all oh wake up starts today hunger for more in my generation 692 01:01:30.599 --> 01:01:34.000 fire that burns we cannot shut voices shouting and salvation. This is the day 693 01:01:34.280 --> 01:01:44.320 of liberation. The Church humbles firmly to announce. This is the time of 694 01:01:44.639 --> 01:01:54.519 freedom. This is the time of healing the whole earth, hearing the sound 695 01:01:54.960 --> 01:02:13.559 of my truth. They humbled in truth only one way, be it eternity, 696 01:02:14.440 --> 01:02:22.559 the name of Christ let us proclaim. This is the time of my 697 01:02:22.719 --> 01:02:34.559 freedom, is this the time of saving all wars, hearing the sound of 698 01:02:34.960 --> 01:02:42.840 freedom? It' s real time, since it' s healing time. 699 01:02:44.599 --> 01:02:57.719 All the war hear and sound of my truth, the whole earth. He 700 01:03:02.800 --> 01:03:28.960 will hear all the earth sing all the earth, he will hear all the 701 01:03:28.960 --> 01:03:51.960 earth, he will listen. This is the time of freedom, that is 702 01:03:52.119 --> 01:04:08.719 the time of departure. It' s all from or, this is the 703 01:04:08.960 --> 01:04:28.440 time to go out. Every land listens to the deaf and that causes, 704 01:04:33.800 --> 01:04:56.880 prayers can pierce Cochara lands. Me, for your safety use the belt. 705 01:04:57.119 --> 01:05:00.800 We have replaced this announcement of one thousand nine hundred and seventy- three for 706 01:05:00.840 --> 01:05:02.000 wearing the seatbelt. It looks like a thing of the past. Let' 707 01:05:02.039 --> 01:05:10.800 s look at the effects of a collision at 50 kilometers per hour five belts, 708 01:05:11.000 --> 01:05:13.599 but it' s not. Today, one in four dead on the 709 01:05:13.679 --> 01:05:18.239 road was not wearing a safety belt, put on a belt, General Traffic 710 01:05:18.280 --> 01:05:21.880 Directorate, Ministry of the Interior, Government of Spain in the project to study 711 01:05:23.000 --> 01:05:27.119 in the United States and teach them how to play football are really emilio and 712 01:05:27.280 --> 01:05:30.840 raul and one of them has schizophrenia, but his dreams, like those of 713 01:05:30.840 --> 01:05:32.719 any one, have no limits. Let' s not put them on us. 714 01:05:33.039 --> 01:05:38.239 Integration is always the best response for the social inclusion of people with mental 715 01:05:38.320 --> 01:05:41.760 health problems, Ministry of Health, Social Services and Equality Government of Spain. 716 01:05:44.000 --> 01:05:48.559 If you want to visit our website, the wwwww, point the train of 717 01:05:48.679 --> 01:06:05.599 life, the train of life port or very welcome to digital Protestant. I 718 01:06:05.639 --> 01:06:10.119 am the Forstereo and we have the privilege of interviewing someone who, despite being 719 01:06:10.159 --> 01:06:14.599 a very experienced leader. It continues to shock many young people because of its 720 01:06:14.599 --> 01:06:19.599 history. He is Niki Cruz, a pastor and evangelist who, when he 721 01:06:19.719 --> 01:06:26.679 was very young, was the leader of a New York gang and lived a 722 01:06:27.400 --> 01:06:30.480 very dramatic conversion of the Gospel. And now that it is trying to form 723 01:06:30.559 --> 01:06:32.679 and animate and speak of your testimony to many others throughout the world. So 724 01:06:32.679 --> 01:06:41.880 welcome, Nicky thank you so much for singing to be with you when we 725 01:06:41.960 --> 01:06:43.199 ' re going to be yes or we' re going to talk. Every 726 01:06:43.280 --> 01:06:49.239 Spanish hears not many of them know in their history through several books, such 727 01:06:49.360 --> 01:06:55.880 as their autobiography Roan Baby Ron also the classic famous La Cruz and the dagger. 728 01:06:56.480 --> 01:06:58.920 I, when I was a child, my father, a shepherd in 729 01:06:59.000 --> 01:07:03.280 a small village here in the Spanish act, and they put his film in 730 01:07:03.360 --> 01:07:06.400 Spanish and many people didn' t believe in you saw it and I remember 731 01:07:06.760 --> 01:07:08.920 as a teenager how I was shocked by the story in which I lived. 732 01:07:09.039 --> 01:07:14.039 You have to represent what makes your story, your testimony so shocking. Through 733 01:07:14.199 --> 01:07:21.719 the decades. I never in my life honestly thought that I was going to 734 01:07:21.800 --> 01:07:29.800 get to this height and give the testimony. It' s not very easy 735 01:07:30.360 --> 01:07:39.840 how to live a brutal life. Born in a home of Brujevida, my 736 01:07:40.000 --> 01:07:45.800 dad was a Satan priest and with my mom was a witch and cursed me 737 01:07:45.119 --> 01:07:54.599 and also my brothers and my sister and everyone already knew that I, now 738 01:07:54.679 --> 01:07:59.960 that I can understand, knew that they were all meant for the faithful, 739 01:08:00.400 --> 01:08:04.119 not because my dad was doing miracle, not in the name of Jesus Christ, 740 01:08:04.880 --> 01:08:11.800 but the Devil Lucife and my little eyes saw all those things together with 741 01:08:11.800 --> 01:08:18.399 my brothers. And when your mother tells you that she hates you that I 742 01:08:18.520 --> 01:08:24.479 ' m not your son and she mistreats you physically, not sexually. It 743 01:08:24.640 --> 01:08:30.840 ' s an overwhelming thing for a nine- year- old boy and that 744 01:08:31.000 --> 01:08:38.479 brought me to my hatred for my mother and hated her compassion and I didn 745 01:08:38.479 --> 01:08:41.279 ' t want to see her. I thought I was a monster, because 746 01:08:41.359 --> 01:08:47.279 a child is very sensitive. And then he was going to look for me. 747 01:08:48.520 --> 01:08:55.399 I was nine years old, I was gonna go by and throw myself 748 01:08:56.119 --> 01:09:00.880 out of an album like a soda and find myself. But thank the Lord 749 01:09:00.960 --> 01:09:05.600 that my brother, Scream O, does not do so. And after that 750 01:09:05.640 --> 01:09:14.640 I started running a completely different life and my mom told me that I was 751 01:09:14.680 --> 01:09:16.920 the Devil' s son. I thought he was the devil' s son 752 01:09:17.640 --> 01:09:25.039 and he played with imagination my mind even when I was gang leader. And 753 01:09:26.640 --> 01:09:30.600 the most horrible moments were when I was alone at three o' clock in 754 01:09:30.840 --> 01:09:38.199 the morning, when that seductive lady, called loneliness, had and penetrated into 755 01:09:38.319 --> 01:09:43.520 me and pressed my heart and my mind was leaving me and horrible thoughts, 756 01:09:45.079 --> 01:09:54.039 the thought of suicide shooting me in the head. I went through that hopeless 757 01:09:54.199 --> 01:09:58.840 moment that they didn' t believe, no one, they didn' t 758 01:09:58.840 --> 01:10:02.479 believe in love, because that was destroyed when I was nine or four years 759 01:10:02.479 --> 01:10:06.560 old, true. And then in New York it was that I had a 760 01:10:06.560 --> 01:10:12.479 confrontation. After being a gang leader, there was death. My hand was 761 01:10:12.560 --> 01:10:17.760 full of blood. I confess that, but at the same time I didn 762 01:10:17.920 --> 01:10:21.640 ' t know anything. I didn' t believe in love. No, 763 01:10:21.720 --> 01:10:26.479 no, no, I don' t believe in that. That already died 764 01:10:26.560 --> 01:10:32.119 when I was nine years old that I was never going to love, I 765 01:10:33.880 --> 01:10:39.880 was never going to cry and it came true, but something happened. I 766 01:10:40.000 --> 01:10:44.319 didn' t believe in love, but love found me. And that was 767 01:10:44.640 --> 01:10:50.479 Jesus Christ by means of a man like you and as you saw that brought 768 01:10:50.560 --> 01:10:58.680 me the message of Mr Vi He was a peasant lord, a field jíbaro 769 01:10:59.279 --> 01:11:03.439 who had never been in an older one and came to New York there and 770 01:11:03.439 --> 01:11:06.479 preached, did not preach, but started shouting there. Then I threatened him, 771 01:11:06.640 --> 01:11:11.560 that I was going to kill him and I told him if I spoke 772 01:11:11.560 --> 01:11:15.840 one more word from God, I' m going to kill you and I 773 01:11:15.960 --> 01:11:23.960 ' m with the guys in the mandilla and there were about three hundred people 774 01:11:24.039 --> 01:11:29.479 there, but he was quiet and he was shaking and I came near I 775 01:11:29.600 --> 01:11:34.039 spit him curse him, but he told me I came here to give your 776 01:11:34.039 --> 01:11:39.079 message Christ h Ama Niki and then I was confused. I pulled back and 777 01:11:39.920 --> 01:11:45.920 then it got brave. A nibaro who has never been to New York got 778 01:11:45.960 --> 01:11:50.960 well, brave and started something came over him. I can tell you that. 779 01:11:53.079 --> 01:11:57.720 That had to be the holy spirit that I can now speak of, 780 01:11:58.720 --> 01:12:03.039 who took it and that man has threatened me in such a strong way that 781 01:12:03.079 --> 01:12:08.239 he looks at me right now. I know you can kill me. Killing 782 01:12:08.720 --> 01:12:12.920 me yelled at me and people are listening to that. Kill me, you 783 01:12:13.000 --> 01:12:18.159 can kill me. Cut me a thousand pieces and throw it in the street, 784 01:12:18.439 --> 01:12:23.720 throw it in the street and remember that every bit will scream at you 785 01:12:23.720 --> 01:12:29.760 that Christ. That was the message that touched my life in the suburbs of 786 01:12:29.880 --> 01:12:39.439 New York, in the Paul Drumbener, where it was a dirty diamond that 787 01:12:39.560 --> 01:12:46.439 was well, well lost and the love of God came. I' ve 788 01:12:46.439 --> 01:12:51.920 been changed. Today I never cried like a cry. That night there were 789 01:12:53.399 --> 01:12:59.800 2, 000 people, I had different enemy gangs. There was gonna be 790 01:13:00.079 --> 01:13:08.680 blood that night, but not this. He came like a wind that penetrated 791 01:13:08.840 --> 01:13:12.560 there when he spoke of your mission of Christ and Israel. I want to, 792 01:13:13.720 --> 01:13:16.640 I want to get to the front. I said no. No. 793 01:13:16.720 --> 01:13:19.720 No. No, you' re not gonna embarrass the gang. No, 794 01:13:19.880 --> 01:13:25.000 no, but I said no. I' m not going with you because 795 01:13:25.439 --> 01:13:29.640 he told me come we' re going to kill each other, we' 796 01:13:29.640 --> 01:13:32.199 re not going to live long. So I told him he you' re 797 01:13:32.199 --> 01:13:35.640 scared? And then I told him you' re scared. I go with 798 01:13:36.119 --> 01:13:43.279 you and my girlfriend and everything I bring the bride twenty- five girls and 799 01:13:43.479 --> 01:13:47.399 there it happened that I didn' t expect that, and the boys started 800 01:13:47.399 --> 01:13:51.520 crying. And I' m seeing that they' re hugging the girl and 801 01:13:51.720 --> 01:13:56.640 the girl crying, but moaning one thing, crying another thing is moaning. 802 01:13:57.640 --> 01:14:03.800 Then I told him let' s get out of here and he turned his 803 01:14:03.960 --> 01:14:09.479 face towards me and he was next to laguien more and I said you what 804 01:14:09.479 --> 01:14:15.399 that is. He told me without here if there' s no other way. 805 01:14:15.600 --> 01:14:23.720 So that made me feel so bad that I started hitting him on the 806 01:14:23.840 --> 01:14:29.520 floor with my shoes to distract myself. But while I was hitting the hard 807 01:14:29.640 --> 01:14:36.840 one on the floor with my shoes, tears started to run and more tears, 808 01:14:38.159 --> 01:14:45.119 and there I could feel something strange happening in me because I couldn' 809 01:14:45.119 --> 01:14:49.760 t explain it. My girlfriend was scared crying and that' s where I 810 01:14:49.840 --> 01:14:57.079 fell on my knees and knew what to say goodbye to her I told her 811 01:14:57.079 --> 01:15:00.680 I didn' t want it. I said this lord gave me says that 812 01:15:00.840 --> 01:15:05.279 your Jesus Christ calls me I do not love you, nor am I looking 813 01:15:05.319 --> 01:15:11.000 for you, but there was a silence and then it came out of me, 814 01:15:11.000 --> 01:15:16.039 out of my heart. You love me, you love me, because 815 01:15:16.079 --> 01:15:21.319 my mother' s memories were here in front of my mind. That' 816 01:15:21.399 --> 01:15:30.600 s where I felt a divine persus of God' s forgiveness and felt that 817 01:15:31.600 --> 01:15:38.319 he pulled me out and ripped off all that hatred I had and put a 818 01:15:38.720 --> 01:15:45.039 new heart, a heart of flesh to feel I didn' t see it, 819 01:15:45.600 --> 01:15:49.279 but I felt it. It' s an impressive testimony. I want 820 01:15:51.720 --> 01:15:56.520 sop is a testimony that he has summed up very well and that I understand 821 01:15:56.600 --> 01:16:00.239 that it is the message that he shares, whether it is the radio, 822 01:16:00.800 --> 01:16:02.439 whether on television, or in stadiums before thousands of people in different countries of 823 01:16:02.439 --> 01:16:09.079 the world. So my question is how people receive this message and what do 824 01:16:09.199 --> 01:16:14.199 you think these young people today need to hear as to who Jesus is will 825 01:16:14.279 --> 01:16:20.680 surprise you from my age. That' s filled with young people. Still 826 01:16:21.800 --> 01:16:29.560 they can. While I am recounting my life and my life is not just 827 01:16:29.640 --> 01:16:36.880 testimony. A lot of horror that I have written seventeen books, but the 828 01:16:38.000 --> 01:16:43.319 testimony is what people of one and I will tell you honestly is not very 829 01:16:43.760 --> 01:16:48.199 easy for me, because the only thing that comforts me. It is the 830 01:16:48.279 --> 01:16:57.119 apostle Paul who gave his testimony constantly and I fought against it. When I 831 01:16:57.199 --> 01:17:02.119 finished talking and I was in the place very full and not that I started 832 01:17:02.199 --> 01:17:04.760 arguing with God. I don' t want to testify. I don' 833 01:17:04.800 --> 01:17:10.960 t want to do that, but God is patient. It took me two 834 01:17:11.079 --> 01:17:18.720 days to let me know I touched your life, not to be a preacher, 835 01:17:19.479 --> 01:17:28.439 to tell the world to transform you. I went and your life is 836 01:17:28.680 --> 01:17:33.520 mine and I know how hard it is for you. But that' s 837 01:17:33.640 --> 01:17:38.359 why I chose you and that was history. In New York, I went 838 01:17:38.439 --> 01:17:45.359 through all the television newspapers, the song. That brought about a removal. 839 01:17:45.520 --> 01:17:48.520 The cross and the dagger made a awakening that he takes or takes. More 840 01:17:48.600 --> 01:17:57.479 than 12, 000 copies were sold and are still going to be a film 841 01:17:57.600 --> 01:18:03.000 about my life other than the Cross. Thank you. I am going to 842 01:18:03.079 --> 01:18:09.359 ask you two more questions, one about the Conference in Madrid, but first 843 01:18:09.479 --> 01:18:14.319 I want to ask you how you see the Church in the United States, 844 01:18:14.560 --> 01:18:17.319 in Latin America, in Europe, in the places where you have visited, 845 01:18:17.640 --> 01:18:24.439 what changes you have seen encouraging you that perhaps it is a challenge, according 846 01:18:24.640 --> 01:18:34.279 to you, what I have seen in the United States and part of Europe, 847 01:18:34.560 --> 01:18:41.880 that for me the whole approach of the Gospel, of Lord Jesus Christ 848 01:18:41.880 --> 01:18:44.560 and superpredication is not sounding as it should sound. We have entered prosperity and 849 01:18:45.640 --> 01:18:53.520 that is an insult to those who suffer and who live a life constantly to 850 01:18:53.680 --> 01:19:01.600 provide for their family. And America has fallen into that. And the U 851 01:19:01.680 --> 01:19:14.039 S is currently being whipped by violence, by drugs that are cheap and we 852 01:19:14.199 --> 01:19:24.640 are losing almost 100 zero young people every year. Wait till they die more. 853 01:19:25.600 --> 01:19:29.960 The only thing I can tell you that we have to pray for the 854 01:19:30.079 --> 01:19:35.279 soul, pray for the soul of our children, because they are what are 855 01:19:35.279 --> 01:19:45.760 vulnerable. And we are preaching a gospel that there is so much theology that 856 01:19:45.800 --> 01:19:49.239 God has never heard. We have transformed into that, but there are also 857 01:19:49.399 --> 01:19:57.199 many who are now interceding and crying, asking God to happen something, like 858 01:19:57.359 --> 01:20:02.159 here in Spain, like the United States. I think the trial is coming 859 01:20:02.199 --> 01:20:08.039 and it' s already starting, but at the same time every day. 860 01:20:08.119 --> 01:20:15.399 I believe that God' s mercy will be with us and will guard and 861 01:20:15.600 --> 01:20:23.800 guard everyone who calls Christ and his family, And I also believe that God 862 01:20:23.880 --> 01:20:31.039 prowess, but that is not the Gospel is not happy and you do not 863 01:20:32.399 --> 01:20:39.399 feel that he has peace, the love that moves the mountains, then there 864 01:20:40.000 --> 01:20:45.840 is danger. Finally, Nicky from 2 to 4 May, in Madrid, 865 01:20:46.239 --> 01:20:51.199 capital of Spain, you, along with Gary Wilkerson Jims without sacrimer Crips bullet, 866 01:20:51.600 --> 01:20:57.960 the Pentecostal Federation maizado an event for pastors leading churches. It was called 867 01:20:58.039 --> 01:21:01.800 your bones in I would like to finally know what is the main idea you 868 01:21:01.880 --> 01:21:04.359 want to share and how you want to encourage the church in Spain. He 869 01:21:04.359 --> 01:21:12.560 went ahead with the gaming mission in that particular. They are, as they 870 01:21:12.760 --> 01:21:23.720 are called, teachers. I' m not a teacher. They started out 871 01:21:23.800 --> 01:21:29.439 as the place I came and I don' t remember when I was and 872 01:21:29.479 --> 01:21:36.840 I' m here and I' m going to Madrid this at the meeting 873 01:21:36.920 --> 01:21:44.560 there were about four hundred people, but the night was evangelical evangelism that I 874 01:21:44.560 --> 01:21:48.159 was the one explained and there were more than four zero people. And that 875 01:21:48.239 --> 01:21:55.640 ' s what I' m doing. Not I have many crusades in other 876 01:21:55.760 --> 01:22:02.319 places that have nothing to do with the Conference, but they are my friends 877 01:22:02.479 --> 01:22:10.399 the son of David Wolker, they are my spiritual father, because Dave Wilkerson 878 01:22:10.840 --> 01:22:15.720 said to help him and that is why he is a good boy and a 879 01:22:16.840 --> 01:22:23.800 good preacher and mine is an evangelist. Bring the soul to Christ. I 880 01:22:23.960 --> 01:22:29.000 cannot tell you if you come to me to speak in depth of the Gospel, 881 01:22:30.039 --> 01:22:32.760 if you are going to answer the Bible, but that is not my 882 01:22:32.760 --> 01:22:39.159 call. That is why the last two do not lead to being accurate evangelistic, 883 01:22:39.319 --> 01:22:42.960 that is, if your work and your participation is face- out with 884 01:22:43.119 --> 01:22:47.520 unbelievers who will invite you to hear from you as well. I don' 885 01:22:47.640 --> 01:22:54.159 t come here to teach, though I can, because I can talk about 886 01:22:54.399 --> 01:22:59.640 evangelism, which is a thing that' s decaying a lot, but I 887 01:22:59.640 --> 01:23:00.199 think the Holy One is going to lift it up and I believe it. 888 01:23:01.520 --> 01:23:08.000 I am a child in faith. I believe that Christ can be all that 889 01:23:08.079 --> 01:23:13.199 we interrupt. Yes, well, thank you very much, Nicky for your 890 01:23:13.319 --> 01:23:17.319 testimony, for your passion, for your presence in Spain these days, and 891 01:23:17.359 --> 01:23:21.079 we ask God to bless you these days here in Spain. Thank you very 892 01:23:21.159 --> 01:23:26.359 much. He' s got a good face for television, I' ve 893 01:23:26.359 --> 01:23:30.000 got it for Radio, God, but he' s got it all and 894 01:23:30.000 --> 01:23:33.199 it' s cool. Thank you very much. This is a message to 895 01:23:33.319 --> 01:23:36.479 all those who told you that you couldn' t change the world. Now 896 01:23:36.560 --> 01:23:41.560 you can thanks to the human effect, a superpower that makes us the only 897 01:23:41.680 --> 01:23:45.800 species capable of reversing the damage we cause to the planet and curbing hunger and 898 01:23:45.840 --> 01:23:48.720 poverty. It' s time to use this new power. Find out how 899 01:23:48.840 --> 01:23:57.279 to do it with united hands. In fact, human being org good travels 900 01:23:57.600 --> 01:24:20.199 on the train of life, but there are those that tend to cry and 901 01:24:20.359 --> 01:24:30.800 that rin unstoppable. There are those who clean up all day and others go 902 01:24:30.920 --> 01:24:41.840 to the office. Their pay is our bieneta, all of them cute and 903 01:24:42.039 --> 01:24:47.920 with something unique or moms who endure a word that there is much more. 904 01:24:50.239 --> 01:25:00.359 They are without equal threshing sun where their virtue goes. They change happiness ceases. 905 01:25:01.479 --> 01:25:13.319 Every bidi paint the colors of heaven that was seen Is it an art 906 01:25:13.640 --> 01:25:36.239 to be a mom? Or they enjoy seeing us savasa and impell us to 907 01:25:36.479 --> 01:25:45.199 triumph my honors as medicine and they are sabrazos vitamins that do not give strength 908 01:25:45.199 --> 01:25:58.279 to fight. All of them cute and with something unique, moms who endure 909 01:25:58.439 --> 01:26:04.319 a word that there is so much more. They are without equal villa sun 910 01:26:04.560 --> 01:26:16.000 where they go their virtue is grambia sadness happiness aba vivi paint the colors of 911 01:26:16.119 --> 01:26:29.359 sky that was gray They are without equal shines are where they go their virtue 912 01:26:30.000 --> 01:26:40.760 changes sadness happiness every you gli paint the colors of sky that was gray ful. 913 01:26:45.880 --> 01:26:53.000 Is it an art to be a mom? Is it an art to 914 01:26:53.000 --> 01:27:02.920 be a mom? They are sini the same and I am already where your 915 01:27:03.119 --> 01:27:19.720 grace vir, the trian happiness driftinta colors sky want gray Is it an art 916 01:27:20.039 --> 01:27:30.079 to be mom? They will see in the ultrasound signs in the effect that 917 01:27:30.199 --> 01:27:35.319 after birth they may have problems of integration or difficulties in exercising professions of responsibility 918 01:27:35.720 --> 01:27:40.319 and even situations in which their physical integrity or life is endangered. But what 919 01:27:40.399 --> 01:27:44.119 it is, doctor, you are going to have a girl discrimination against women 920 01:27:44.199 --> 01:27:46.760 in society, which goes into abuses without justice and ill- treatment. Don 921 01:27:46.880 --> 01:27:54.560 ' t let him. They enter acts with Amnesty Org Amnesty International. If 922 01:27:54.640 --> 01:28:01.279 you don' t separate from recyclable containers. The selective collection system and recycling 923 01:28:01.399 --> 01:28:14.359 separate, remember, separate your containers and post them in their corresponding container so 924 01:28:14.760 --> 01:28:18.159 that recycling continues to progress. If you will take care of the future of 925 01:28:18.319 --> 01:28:21.600 your children, of everyone to separate. There is your hands to recycle in 926 01:28:21.720 --> 01:29:00.680 those of all you travel in the train of life, the mother, that 927 01:29:01.399 --> 01:29:09.359 affectionate and inescapable figure, indispensable for the psychoemotional development of all of us, 928 01:29:09.760 --> 01:29:12.720 our mother, who does not remember her mother, if she has already here, 929 01:29:13.079 --> 01:29:16.399 if the mother had her, where we have cried so many times and 930 01:29:16.439 --> 01:29:21.000 where we have laughed, where we have been comforted and refugees, in the 931 01:29:21.000 --> 01:29:32.000 arms of our mother, Hello Dear, Judith Hi Julio, being mother, 932 01:29:32.880 --> 01:29:34.760 that figure so inescapable. Being a mother is more than just a day. 933 01:29:35.239 --> 01:29:39.319 We all know that mothers are very important in the lives of each one of 934 01:29:39.359 --> 01:29:45.079 us. Surely we can remember without any doubt many transcendent moments that they have 935 01:29:45.159 --> 01:29:49.319 starred in our lives with tenderness, support, comfort, example, as I 936 01:29:49.359 --> 01:29:57.079 said myself. But where, where its importance lies the importance of that figure 937 01:29:57.119 --> 01:30:01.840 of the mother, first, which is a figure and replaceable. What we 938 01:30:01.920 --> 01:30:05.760 can have lived if we have lost a mother or we have had it or 939 01:30:05.840 --> 01:30:10.800 we have not had it properly, is that there are people or other people 940 01:30:10.880 --> 01:30:13.960 in our environment who have, perhaps, been able to exercise that role trying 941 01:30:15.279 --> 01:30:18.720 to make up for the fact that if we have not had, we have 942 01:30:18.720 --> 01:30:20.960 had a bad figure, of a mathematical image. But in reality, its 943 01:30:21.079 --> 01:30:26.119 importance is indispensable. First, because it' s the first affective bond we 944 01:30:26.119 --> 01:30:29.680 have. When I' ve used the title of being a mother, it 945 01:30:29.760 --> 01:30:31.760 ' s more than a day. Not only did I mean and have played 946 01:30:31.880 --> 01:30:35.399 with that, not only was I referring to the day we celebrate Mother' 947 01:30:35.399 --> 01:30:38.720 s Day, which then seems to be Mother' s Day. That day 948 01:30:38.760 --> 01:30:41.279 so mothers take into account the other days Well, it' s a normal 949 01:30:41.319 --> 01:30:44.000 thing, not only that, but it' s more than a day, 950 01:30:44.159 --> 01:30:46.239 it' s more than giving Light to be a mother. So the day 951 01:30:46.399 --> 01:30:48.840 I get pregnant is more than the day I give Luis that boy or that 952 01:30:49.119 --> 01:30:54.279 girl, it' s more than that being a mother. So, one 953 01:30:54.319 --> 01:30:58.279 of the things that is where it gets its importance. We said it is 954 01:30:58.359 --> 01:31:02.239 in the first affective bond, the first person in which I am in his 955 01:31:02.359 --> 01:31:08.079 arms for prolonged times, is the one who sends me the message of safety, 956 01:31:08.640 --> 01:31:12.439 protection, care and love all in one is able to give me all 957 01:31:12.520 --> 01:31:15.720 this series of things while he is giving me to suck, for example, 958 01:31:16.159 --> 01:31:18.640 whether it is through the breast he hears even by my violence. It' 959 01:31:18.680 --> 01:31:23.439 s just that we' ve had some sort of problem, but we' 960 01:31:23.760 --> 01:31:25.960 re giving that whole series of things just the moment we' re feeding it, 961 01:31:26.399 --> 01:31:30.319 in the first few months, let' s imagine what we' re 962 01:31:30.399 --> 01:31:32.359 able to give mothers at different times of a child' s evolutionary stage, 963 01:31:33.079 --> 01:31:36.159 so we' re the first affective bond that conveys all these things, so 964 01:31:36.680 --> 01:31:40.760 the child, from now on, is going to link security, protection, 965 01:31:41.279 --> 01:31:43.399 care and love to my mom and the way my mom does. Hence it 966 01:31:43.399 --> 01:31:47.119 often says when there is a negative link or a destructive link or a toxic 967 01:31:47.199 --> 01:31:53.199 link in that relationship. Then these children, who become adults, seek and 968 01:31:53.199 --> 01:31:57.600 try to compensate or seek that security, that protection and care and that love 969 01:31:57.640 --> 01:32:00.479 destructively, because it is how they have lived it, so we are the 970 01:32:00.479 --> 01:32:05.199 first bond affection of our children. Then our first is our main imitation figure. 971 01:32:06.159 --> 01:32:09.760 The mother is the main imitation figure and then the father is, of 972 01:32:09.760 --> 01:32:14.039 course, but she is one of our main imitation figures, especially for the 973 01:32:14.119 --> 01:32:17.399 female gender, since she is one of the moms that we girls imitate and 974 01:32:17.600 --> 01:32:24.159 we seek to look like ourselves. There are many occasions you would cross July 975 01:32:24.199 --> 01:32:28.560 from the number of women who pass me through the consultation and answer me with 976 01:32:28.720 --> 01:32:30.920 one is that I will never be like my mom, the fact that they 977 01:32:31.000 --> 01:32:34.359 were lying I will never be like my mom, as something derogatory, as 978 01:32:34.359 --> 01:32:36.479 something problematic in them, like you won' t win in size. It 979 01:32:36.520 --> 01:32:43.439 has to do with this feeling of imitation figure to which we are transmitting the 980 01:32:43.520 --> 01:32:46.960 mother this imitation figure and then it is our heart compass. I liked to 981 01:32:47.359 --> 01:32:51.159 put it perhaps in a slightly more poetic way that I am always so pragmatic 982 01:32:51.279 --> 01:32:56.359 that I after We have a little poetry moms today that is our compass of 983 01:32:56.359 --> 01:33:00.840 the heart, because, as we will see later on moms are the ones 984 01:33:00.920 --> 01:33:03.760 in charge and responsible for transmitting emotions, managing emotions. Therefore, she becomes 985 01:33:03.920 --> 01:33:10.039 our compass that helps us detect our emotions. Why are those emotions sounding, 986 01:33:10.560 --> 01:33:14.159 where are they coming from, where are they going? What are they asking 987 01:33:14.199 --> 01:33:15.760 us to do and if what they' re asking us to do is healthy 988 01:33:15.840 --> 01:33:19.279 and good, or is it destructive? All right, so she becomes our 989 01:33:19.359 --> 01:33:24.800 compass to teach us how to manage and steer our emotions, our hearts, 990 01:33:25.279 --> 01:33:30.760 so to speak. So a mom has these three, that' s where 991 01:33:30.840 --> 01:33:35.680 she gets its importance, in these three big blocks and how many things she 992 01:33:35.680 --> 01:33:40.079 doesn' t. But what is the fundamental Judith role of mothers in the 993 01:33:40.159 --> 01:33:46.039 psycho, emotional development and growth of children. For the role of the mother 994 01:33:46.560 --> 01:33:50.880 is exercised. Let' s remember that it' s not just having, 995 01:33:51.199 --> 01:33:53.840 though that involves a lot of things. Having our baby, our little boy 996 01:33:54.000 --> 01:33:56.640 at the bar, involves a lot of things and it' s already an 997 01:33:56.640 --> 01:33:58.439 effort. But then we' re talking about this and I' m talking 998 01:33:58.520 --> 01:34:02.399 about the light, we' re talking about exercising that paper so when it 999 01:34:02.600 --> 01:34:09.600 ' s done well it' s the one that helps our mind, that 1000 01:34:09.680 --> 01:34:15.039 develops an image of ourselves and that we like it, because one of the 1001 01:34:15.159 --> 01:34:18.760 main functions of the role of the mother is to send a message of acceptance 1002 01:34:18.760 --> 01:34:24.399 to my children, send a message of acceptance as you are, even if 1003 01:34:24.479 --> 01:34:26.159 there are things in you, that are things that are problematic and that have 1004 01:34:26.159 --> 01:34:29.960 to be polished. I accept and like to live with who you are. 1005 01:34:30.319 --> 01:34:32.920 I accept who you are and what is wrong with you or in this sense, 1006 01:34:33.199 --> 01:34:36.239 more than evil with you what has to be polished because it causes pain 1007 01:34:36.319 --> 01:34:39.960 to others. It' s something I' m gonna show you, but 1008 01:34:40.039 --> 01:34:42.760 mom always sends this message. Therefore, as you have to send that message 1009 01:34:42.840 --> 01:34:46.279 of acceptance to your children, knowing what it is that you should accept is 1010 01:34:46.399 --> 01:34:53.199 your personality and things that are immutable or should be immutable. To accept that 1011 01:34:53.439 --> 01:34:58.880 leads children to have a proper or inadequate vision of themselves. If my mother 1012 01:34:58.880 --> 01:35:00.960 is seeing me all the time I use a message of rejection or displeasure, 1013 01:35:02.119 --> 01:35:08.319 most of all, what will happen, what will cause that in my mind 1014 01:35:08.920 --> 01:35:12.520 is a sense of displeasure with myself, of who I am, of my 1015 01:35:12.560 --> 01:35:15.239 qualities, of my forms, of all that I am, because it touches 1016 01:35:15.359 --> 01:35:18.640 that area precisely. So the well- exercised role of the mother gives us 1017 01:35:18.760 --> 01:35:23.000 an image of who we are. He' s the first person to send 1018 01:35:23.079 --> 01:35:26.439 us this message. It also teaches us to identify emotions, as we have 1019 01:35:26.479 --> 01:35:31.000 said before, and to know how to carry them is to say, to 1020 01:35:31.119 --> 01:35:35.079 know, to detect, how I feel, what it is doing to me, 1021 01:35:35.399 --> 01:35:41.079 to feel like that and, therefore, and more importantly, what I 1022 01:35:41.079 --> 01:35:43.079 must do to make that emotion disappear or stay. If really that emotion is 1023 01:35:43.079 --> 01:35:45.520 sending you to do something that is respective to me or I don' t 1024 01:35:45.600 --> 01:35:49.960 have to be able to think about it or process it and do something, 1025 01:35:50.239 --> 01:35:53.880 because, as we have said many times here on the train of life, 1026 01:35:53.960 --> 01:35:58.640 that emotions what they are, are alarms that tell us if there is something 1027 01:35:58.720 --> 01:36:00.039 that is not working well in our mind and needs a solution. Whenever they 1028 01:36:00.119 --> 01:36:03.479 are the alarms of emotions, we have to attend to them, listen to 1029 01:36:03.560 --> 01:36:05.680 them lose where they come from, where they go and what they are asking 1030 01:36:05.680 --> 01:36:08.720 us for. And if what you' re asking us to do is right 1031 01:36:08.760 --> 01:36:15.079 or wrong, then mom is the main teacher or teacher of identifying emotions. 1032 01:36:15.920 --> 01:36:19.560 The serious problem arises when women have been told as active and passively that to 1033 01:36:19.760 --> 01:36:26.760 be sentimental, that is, to express emotions, to cry, to rejoice, 1034 01:36:27.119 --> 01:36:30.039 to be exaggerated. The time to transmit emotions, be sentimental or talk 1035 01:36:30.319 --> 01:36:38.359 about emotions, even express them is from vidity. It is a feature of 1036 01:36:38.920 --> 01:36:42.880 inferiority and causes discomfort to the male sex. This is what interest has been 1037 01:36:42.920 --> 01:36:45.880 teaching us for a century. This doctrine that we have received, as I 1038 01:36:45.960 --> 01:36:51.239 say to you throughout this sign that has led us to create a void in 1039 01:36:51.319 --> 01:36:56.079 the emotions of our children, because it does not know what to do with 1040 01:36:56.199 --> 01:36:59.560 them and, therefore, what happens when we do not know how to manage 1041 01:36:59.680 --> 01:37:00.760 them, identify them and do something for them. Well, that we have 1042 01:37:00.880 --> 01:37:06.560 several generations that are emotional bombs about to explode and that find a little calm 1043 01:37:06.640 --> 01:37:13.199 in basic instinctive reactions, such as, for example, release, drug use, 1044 01:37:14.239 --> 01:37:20.039 alcohol, very early ages, uncontrolled sexuality. We have now all the 1045 01:37:20.079 --> 01:37:25.520 squealing is mounted in the media about the couple who had sex in the Barcelona 1046 01:37:25.560 --> 01:37:30.520 metro, this type of controlled sexuality. And this is just a tip of 1047 01:37:30.600 --> 01:37:34.039 the ice cream, as we are at a historic moment where it has already 1048 01:37:34.079 --> 01:37:39.359 been talked about actively by also in which there are more abortions around the world. 1049 01:37:40.159 --> 01:37:42.840 So this has to do with a very bad or. One of the 1050 01:37:43.319 --> 01:37:46.880 main causes of this type of behavior is a very bad management of emotions, 1051 01:37:47.279 --> 01:37:50.359 not to attend to them, not to listen to them, the, not 1052 01:37:50.399 --> 01:37:56.560 to change them, not to know how to do something with them and simply 1053 01:37:56.600 --> 01:37:58.680 to let me take it driven by removing that emotion from me, if I 1054 01:37:58.840 --> 01:38:01.760 feel sad, what I have to do is to drink alcohol, because this 1055 01:38:01.760 --> 01:38:03.600 makes me disconnect from that emotion. All right, moms, we got that 1056 01:38:03.680 --> 01:38:08.199 big part. But if we have been told that what role, the pejorative 1057 01:38:08.359 --> 01:38:13.520 is inferiority and is weak, because we will try not to do it looking 1058 01:38:13.600 --> 01:38:17.640 for a little recognition as a female figure and we will have lost one of 1059 01:38:18.000 --> 01:38:26.640 the main functions of the mother in the house to the defenders that that of 1060 01:38:26.720 --> 01:38:30.000 the emotions is not of girls, that is also the other extreme, that 1061 01:38:30.079 --> 01:38:33.760 is, to the emotions can be taught by anyone who can teach them to 1062 01:38:33.760 --> 01:38:36.920 the father also has to be able to express that he has emotions, that 1063 01:38:36.920 --> 01:38:39.880 he feels them and that they manage them. In fact, although we must 1064 01:38:39.920 --> 01:38:44.800 keep in mind that one of the professors of molecular biology of the University of 1065 01:38:44.920 --> 01:38:48.319 La Barra of our country, explained and explained that in the female cerebral cortex, 1066 01:38:49.239 --> 01:38:55.279 since it presents a more intense pattern of grooves in the temporal lobe that 1067 01:38:55.319 --> 01:39:00.119 guess what manages, since managing emotions. So women are one of the things 1068 01:39:00.199 --> 01:39:04.359 they know how to do well, because their brain is already predisposed to know, 1069 01:39:04.439 --> 01:39:10.039 manage, analyze, and carry emotions. Okay. And it is also 1070 01:39:10.159 --> 01:39:15.239 the first and most relevant example of what it means or how a woman behaves. 1071 01:39:15.039 --> 01:39:19.039 This is the other thing she does or the other function of the mother 1072 01:39:19.520 --> 01:39:25.359 in agreement in what sense, since the indispensable image is an indispensable image for 1073 01:39:25.399 --> 01:39:30.039 us, since it depends on how the mother exposes her limits, how the 1074 01:39:30.079 --> 01:39:33.880 mother learns to express her self- care, how she takes care of herself 1075 01:39:34.039 --> 01:39:39.520 and how she demands to be respected. Thus, we will tend to believe 1076 01:39:39.600 --> 01:39:43.359 that we should do it as girls, or that men should accept, that 1077 01:39:43.600 --> 01:39:46.039 my children should accept from a woman an example of them or battered women. 1078 01:39:46.439 --> 01:39:50.560 When a woman has been mistreated for a long time, the female figures of 1079 01:39:50.560 --> 01:39:56.920 that house, that is, the daughters, would have to do two poles 1080 01:39:56.960 --> 01:40:01.319 or remain that battered woman because she has not learned to self- care and 1081 01:40:01.479 --> 01:40:04.560 has generated a respect for her person, or otherwise, they will become the 1082 01:40:04.640 --> 01:40:11.319 aggressor if they disconnect from her feminine image, that is, my daughter will 1083 01:40:11.520 --> 01:40:15.319 learn to know what she should or should not do as a woman, and 1084 01:40:15.439 --> 01:40:19.439 my son will learn to know how to treat or how not to treat or 1085 01:40:19.520 --> 01:40:25.000 how I can afford to treat a woman who are the great roles in the 1086 01:40:25.000 --> 01:40:28.039 development of a son who, as you see, are transcendental, because one 1087 01:40:28.119 --> 01:40:30.039 of them has to do with our inner life and with whom we believe we 1088 01:40:30.079 --> 01:40:31.960 are, and the hordad has to do with social relations. Of course they 1089 01:40:32.079 --> 01:40:36.000 are the two great pillars of the mist. There is a question of substance, 1090 01:40:36.279 --> 01:40:41.920 what consequences, Judith, we can live if we have failed or missed 1091 01:40:42.439 --> 01:40:45.359 in the worst case, a mother or if that role as a mother has 1092 01:40:45.439 --> 01:40:50.359 been exercised badly in our lives. For the truth is that there are always 1093 01:40:50.479 --> 01:40:55.199 serious consequences, because, depending on the age at which we have missed the 1094 01:40:55.600 --> 01:41:00.439 maternal figure, we may have lived in the absence of our first affective bond, 1095 01:41:00.479 --> 01:41:03.319 the one we have said the attachment before, and this helps us to 1096 01:41:03.359 --> 01:41:09.840 feel loved and protected, and only the peppers of our personal security which makes 1097 01:41:09.880 --> 01:41:13.399 us feel safe for ourselves. It has a lot to do with how, 1098 01:41:13.760 --> 01:41:18.319 in those early years, my mom handed me that love and that protection and, 1099 01:41:18.600 --> 01:41:23.520 besides, that feeling of I feel accepted taste. My mom likes me 1100 01:41:23.600 --> 01:41:27.800 and who I am and how I am, it' s peculiarities and my 1101 01:41:27.800 --> 01:41:30.800 characteristics. Those are the foundations of our personal security. Therefore, not having 1102 01:41:30.880 --> 01:41:33.720 lived that bond because he did not have it or because that person or because 1103 01:41:33.760 --> 01:41:38.039 he was not bad, he exercised it inappropriately, either for whatever reasons he 1104 01:41:38.119 --> 01:41:42.119 was. No one' s blaming for it. It' s very rare 1105 01:41:42.159 --> 01:41:45.600 to find a mom who wants to do things more because she wants to do 1106 01:41:45.640 --> 01:41:48.560 things wrong, but there' s always a why, there' s always 1107 01:41:48.640 --> 01:41:50.359 a past behind that pushes us many times to do things wrong. Not then, 1108 01:41:51.319 --> 01:41:56.720 if there has been that absence, we do not have a sense of 1109 01:41:56.720 --> 01:42:00.000 personal security. Or that personal security will be mediated, distorted nothing, and 1110 01:42:00.159 --> 01:42:03.039 it will cost to develop. And as we have said before, in terms 1111 01:42:03.079 --> 01:42:08.000 of emotions, because a serious problem of managing emotions that turns out to be 1112 01:42:08.119 --> 01:42:13.159 one of the precursors of the serious problems in which in our personality, in 1113 01:42:13.239 --> 01:42:15.560 our social relations, as we have said, and in our behavior, in 1114 01:42:15.680 --> 01:42:21.399 the bad situation of emotions generates a bad expression of social relations, a bad 1115 01:42:21.479 --> 01:42:27.239 way to engage in social in the wrong way. Moreover, our behavior is 1116 01:42:27.319 --> 01:42:31.920 immediately affected because we behave also based on how we feel and then our personality, 1117 01:42:32.520 --> 01:42:35.920 because we do not develop them properly, because emotions are giving us information 1118 01:42:36.000 --> 01:42:41.600 and because we do not want to attend to them or we do not attend 1119 01:42:41.640 --> 01:42:45.439 to them, our personality that we are. It is touched that the serious 1120 01:42:45.520 --> 01:42:50.079 consequences have to do with those two big blocks. Judith clear one already a 1121 01:42:50.199 --> 01:42:59.359 mother. Anyone who thinks about this question is not going to pronounce it. 1122 01:42:59.439 --> 01:43:04.680 It is possible to learn to be a mom, because in reality, although 1123 01:43:04.800 --> 01:43:09.960 you are very much right Julio in which it is difficult for a mom to 1124 01:43:10.079 --> 01:43:12.520 go in front of another person or a therapist or a counselor. I tell 1125 01:43:12.520 --> 01:43:15.239 you, by the way, how you can learn to be a mom, 1126 01:43:16.039 --> 01:43:18.479 because that usually comes to the conclusion that if someone asks that question, it 1127 01:43:18.560 --> 01:43:20.239 ' s because they think they don' t know how to do it that 1128 01:43:20.239 --> 01:43:23.760 they don' t have. Why a person thinks he can be doing something 1129 01:43:23.920 --> 01:43:26.520 right, but he needs to keep learning. And that is an act of 1130 01:43:26.560 --> 01:43:30.479 humility that also indicates wisdom and intelligence in the person, that act of humility 1131 01:43:30.520 --> 01:43:33.800 of wanting to continue learning. But it is possible in what sense, because 1132 01:43:33.880 --> 01:43:40.239 in reality, the whole mother, all moms forgiveness, have what is necessary 1133 01:43:40.279 --> 01:43:45.199 at the biological, physical and neuronal levels. It' s biological. I 1134 01:43:45.239 --> 01:43:50.359 am referring to his belly, to the chest to be able to row it 1135 01:43:50.399 --> 01:43:55.439 reminds you of all that biological environment that tells us that we are moms and, 1136 01:43:56.000 --> 01:44:00.800 in addition, neuronally, our brain is prepared, has what it takes 1137 01:44:00.880 --> 01:44:02.159 to properly exercise the role of mom in a natural way. Okay, it 1138 01:44:02.720 --> 01:44:08.239 ' s that intuition or that sixth sense that looks like we moms, because 1139 01:44:08.439 --> 01:44:13.840 I' ve well integrated into our own biology and our brain, our neural 1140 01:44:13.880 --> 01:44:18.000 system, now let' s remember some things, like the grooves that we 1141 01:44:18.079 --> 01:44:21.000 ' ve said in the temporal lobe for emotions. It is a demonstration of 1142 01:44:21.279 --> 01:44:25.960 this physiological preparation, of this biological preparation in our body and in our mind, 1143 01:44:26.520 --> 01:44:30.079 the increase in the size of our brain, after giving birth to a 1144 01:44:30.159 --> 01:44:34.600 few months a very interesting research in the United States measured by means of brain 1145 01:44:34.600 --> 01:44:39.119 TACXS, the size and shape of the brain after the truth light in the 1146 01:44:39.199 --> 01:44:42.439 next months of between one and three months, and they saw that that matter 1147 01:44:43.159 --> 01:44:47.159 of the brain had grown in certain areas and the greater symmetry in our two 1148 01:44:47.159 --> 01:44:51.319 semispheries, which makes us more skilled at managing work and practical organization and our 1149 01:44:51.880 --> 01:44:58.520 intuition. These are all things that are physically verifiable. In addition, in 1150 01:44:58.600 --> 01:45:01.479 women, the general tendency is that their brains have the ability to have good 1151 01:45:01.600 --> 01:45:06.199 verbal fluidity, the tendency to empathy and recognition of nonverbal language, which has 1152 01:45:06.279 --> 01:45:11.680 a lot of emotional information language or verbal, and hence we have to be 1153 01:45:11.760 --> 01:45:19.199 intuitive when it comes to reacting quickly to intentions. We detect intentions with ease 1154 01:45:19.600 --> 01:45:24.000 behaviors needs of others. That' s why moms tend to be faster at 1155 01:45:24.279 --> 01:45:28.239 detecting a baby' s needs and, therefore, the needs of other people. 1156 01:45:29.000 --> 01:45:31.439 Therefore, this support any mom who is listening to us or any woman 1157 01:45:31.520 --> 01:45:35.520 who has actually become a mom asks for those qualities. So, we already 1158 01:45:35.560 --> 01:45:41.399 have this now. While it is true that all these attributes that if they 1159 01:45:41.520 --> 01:45:45.399 have, come with the package of being a woman, it is true, 1160 01:45:45.079 --> 01:45:53.199 but our environment, our upbringing and the image that we have of ourselves can 1161 01:45:53.199 --> 01:45:58.359 block, paralyze or inhibit all these innate qualities. And there are post- 1162 01:45:58.560 --> 01:46:02.720 perpetuation depression processes. So we have to learn how to develop all these things 1163 01:46:03.000 --> 01:46:10.359 by looking for other moms' fitting references, that is, having all the 1164 01:46:10.399 --> 01:46:15.560 tools necessary to make, for example, having squadrons, pencils of different sizes, 1165 01:46:16.000 --> 01:46:20.159 having all kinds of rubbers, having an immense drawing table doesn' t 1166 01:46:20.239 --> 01:46:25.479 make me good drawing by nature, but gives me all the tools necessary so 1167 01:46:25.600 --> 01:46:30.079 that if I learn to be the best artist in the world or the best 1168 01:46:30.079 --> 01:46:32.760 architect. But that' s what we mean as moms and as women, 1169 01:46:32.880 --> 01:46:35.239 we don' t need, we don' t lack anything. All we 1170 01:46:35.239 --> 01:46:41.600 need is to learn to develop those qualities that we already have by looking for 1171 01:46:41.880 --> 01:46:45.760 other references that we consider appropriate as mothers, the normal, the most advisable, 1172 01:46:46.760 --> 01:46:50.479 the right thing should be that we, throughout our childhood and two, 1173 01:46:51.000 --> 01:46:56.520 would have imitated and soaked with that information of how to develop those abilities of 1174 01:46:56.520 --> 01:47:00.199 our mother. But unfortunately, we have had a mother who has not been 1175 01:47:00.439 --> 01:47:05.119 able to exercise that role as a mother. We need to look for other 1176 01:47:05.199 --> 01:47:10.640 referents that we see suitable fruits. When we say fruits, we refer to 1177 01:47:10.640 --> 01:47:15.079 products, to appropriate consequences. When we saw a mother that her children see 1178 01:47:15.159 --> 01:47:17.880 them happy, happy, that they have a good relationship of affection with her, 1179 01:47:18.119 --> 01:47:20.880 that we do not see not only that they are obedient, because we 1180 01:47:21.000 --> 01:47:25.119 always focus more on that, but that they are obedient, but that they 1181 01:47:25.279 --> 01:47:27.279 are also heard when they do not agree with what the mother says. When 1182 01:47:27.399 --> 01:47:30.439 we see that kind of kids, we need to look for the mom behind 1183 01:47:30.520 --> 01:47:35.000 and after that mom, we need to be able to imitate, learn and 1184 01:47:35.079 --> 01:47:39.159 ask that mom about why and how she does the things you do. That 1185 01:47:39.279 --> 01:47:43.760 ' s the apprentice. We saw that learning societies are based on communities, 1186 01:47:44.800 --> 01:47:48.880 on living, in community, living together and against more individualized, we are 1187 01:47:49.680 --> 01:47:59.000 more negative things, more negative consequences, more absences because we can have fewer 1188 01:47:59.079 --> 01:48:06.079 references to imitate and compare with. Of course, in order to take advantage 1189 01:48:06.079 --> 01:48:11.560 of this whole subject, so this theme of the mother, of our mother, 1190 01:48:12.439 --> 01:48:15.319 that vital figure, of the emotional fabric, of life, of every 1191 01:48:15.479 --> 01:48:23.880 human being, how we can show gratitude to our mothers on any day or 1192 01:48:24.000 --> 01:48:30.039 at some other time, perhaps because the children take things for granted and there 1193 01:48:30.159 --> 01:48:33.159 is a lot of ingratitude also and abandonment we no longer talk about that, 1194 01:48:33.319 --> 01:48:38.079 but how we can show gratitude to our mothers, Judith, of course, 1195 01:48:38.720 --> 01:48:41.880 in reality, ah many times that ingratitude comes because, as we have always 1196 01:48:41.880 --> 01:48:45.880 seen our mother doing what she does, it is impossible for us to differentiate 1197 01:48:45.920 --> 01:48:47.399 the mother from the woman she was before being a mother. I mean, 1198 01:48:47.720 --> 01:48:53.640 we haven' t been able to see the evolution of that woman in mom 1199 01:48:53.720 --> 01:48:55.520 the things she didn' t do before and now she does. For example, 1200 01:48:56.000 --> 01:48:58.439 you used to make me up since I had my little children. It 1201 01:48:58.479 --> 01:49:01.680 takes me time to put cream on the cove, to make up, to 1202 01:49:01.680 --> 01:49:06.000 put on cream? The change our body makes. As we were before and 1203 01:49:06.079 --> 01:49:10.439 we dressed before and we could manage ahead and like best after having had the 1204 01:49:10.520 --> 01:49:15.079 children, or we took care of personal time. For us, maybe before 1205 01:49:15.119 --> 01:49:17.680 we had kids, we had a lot of time to read going to theaters, 1206 01:49:17.800 --> 01:49:24.880 watching movies, doing crafts, and now we have the kids and all 1207 01:49:24.960 --> 01:49:28.000 that stuff happened in the second term. All that change. Our children have 1208 01:49:28.079 --> 01:49:31.199 never seen why, because they were born in a place where we had already 1209 01:49:31.239 --> 01:49:34.920 generated that change, because we, as children, have generated that change in 1210 01:49:34.920 --> 01:49:38.840 our mothers. So, we think it' s her natural robe, that 1211 01:49:38.920 --> 01:49:42.199 is, a mom already likes to put washing machines or a mom already likes 1212 01:49:42.279 --> 01:49:45.840 to have little time for herself. A mom already likes to put order in 1213 01:49:45.880 --> 01:49:47.840 the house. Well, he might like it better, or he might like 1214 01:49:47.840 --> 01:49:51.760 it less. But that' s not just what she is. She does 1215 01:49:53.000 --> 01:49:58.239 that out of love for us to live in a proper environment, whether it 1216 01:49:58.239 --> 01:50:00.359 ' s work and whether it' s home, wherever it is. Without 1217 01:50:00.680 --> 01:50:02.560 this, to yotipar to anyone, then that is what sometimes makes us children 1218 01:50:02.600 --> 01:50:08.039 be little grateful and we do not realize when this changes. When we have 1219 01:50:08.039 --> 01:50:12.680 children, when children have children, they start to change some things, we 1220 01:50:12.760 --> 01:50:16.520 begin to understand the sacrifice that our mother makes. Then every woman actually, 1221 01:50:16.960 --> 01:50:20.640 to know how you will or will answer your question. How to show gratitude 1222 01:50:20.760 --> 01:50:24.439 to our moms these days, for example, this weekend that you said July, 1223 01:50:24.760 --> 01:50:28.600 for each woman our predilection for one kind of form of affection or another. 1224 01:50:29.119 --> 01:50:32.840 Okay. There are women who will feel very rewarded with a bouquet of 1225 01:50:33.159 --> 01:50:36.960 flowers or with a pot with several flowers, others with that on their birthday 1226 01:50:38.079 --> 01:50:43.399 or a special day, that she is the real protagonist, preparing something exclusive 1227 01:50:43.439 --> 01:50:48.880 that is for her. Others will need a Thank you for the clothes, 1228 01:50:50.439 --> 01:50:55.800 Thank you for making me food, Thank you for already working, Thank you 1229 01:50:55.880 --> 01:50:57.960 for looking for someone to take care of me when you are working. Thank 1230 01:50:58.000 --> 01:51:00.079 you for paying me a private teacher, thank you for helping me for my 1231 01:51:00.079 --> 01:51:04.319 homework. There' s more mom than you' ll need than thanks for 1232 01:51:04.319 --> 01:51:05.960 more regular daily. Maybe you don' t need on a super birthday, 1233 01:51:06.119 --> 01:51:11.000 but you need that exa gratitude in a simpler, shorter way. But every 1234 01:51:11.039 --> 01:51:16.439 day, or many days, and some will be rewarded or will see our 1235 01:51:16.680 --> 01:51:20.520 gratitude through a gesture of affection, with a kiss, with an unexpected embrace. 1236 01:51:23.119 --> 01:51:28.279 And that fills their hearts. And there are other kinds of women who 1237 01:51:28.560 --> 01:51:30.079 will need this whole list of things I' ve said. Actually July, 1238 01:51:30.600 --> 01:51:35.720 the big percentage of women need all these things that we' ve said now 1239 01:51:35.880 --> 01:51:39.800 Maybe the kids and you say oysters chito is that I' m 15 years 1240 01:51:39.800 --> 01:51:42.600 old. I can' t give these things anymore. Well, it doesn 1241 01:51:42.720 --> 01:51:44.880 ' t look like it. Maybe we can' t buy a flower, 1242 01:51:45.119 --> 01:51:46.399 but the place where we' re going to find the best print. There, 1243 01:51:46.479 --> 01:51:50.640 maybe some flowers and we can get two or three flowers. Maybe. 1244 01:51:51.039 --> 01:51:54.199 We can' t buy flowers every day, but on Mother' s Day 1245 01:51:54.199 --> 01:51:57.840 we can go to any flower shop. And sometimes, on many occasions and 1246 01:51:57.840 --> 01:52:00.359 I tell you in teenagers sometimes that we think of a bouquet of flowers that 1247 01:52:00.359 --> 01:52:03.319 can cut us off cost thirty euros, but there are magnificent flowers that can 1248 01:52:03.359 --> 01:52:08.600 cost us seventy- five a euro In reality, in the detail of what 1249 01:52:08.640 --> 01:52:13.239 that flower and implies and because flowers generate, as there is general color vivid 1250 01:52:13.520 --> 01:52:16.720 enthusiasm, it is the best way to show that it gratifies a woman and 1251 01:52:16.800 --> 01:52:19.960 a mother what they have in common all this list of things that has given 1252 01:52:20.039 --> 01:52:27.439 to this set of ideas is the recognition with gestures and words of the work 1253 01:52:27.600 --> 01:52:32.640 that they are doing, that is, the recognition of their good results that, 1254 01:52:32.920 --> 01:52:35.760 thanks to her washing my clothes, I go clean every day and I 1255 01:52:35.920 --> 01:52:40.359 can change her clothes once and even in some cases, twice a day and 1256 01:52:40.439 --> 01:52:45.560 making them feel different and unique. It' s the other reason, it 1257 01:52:45.640 --> 01:52:48.319 ' s the other thing that hides those ideas, make them feel different and 1258 01:52:48.319 --> 01:52:51.359 unique. You' re my only mom and I love that you' re 1259 01:52:51.399 --> 01:52:55.359 that unique and different. And, on the other hand, the good results 1260 01:52:55.520 --> 01:52:59.119 and the work of each of the quellas make the recognition of them, they 1261 01:52:59.199 --> 01:53:03.439 that our mothers tend to be more affective with us and with us and, 1262 01:53:03.680 --> 01:53:10.840 moreover, less recriminating sometimes and less controlling. Moms are often recreational and controlling, 1263 01:53:11.000 --> 01:53:15.119 because they don' t feel that anyone has noticed the effort, the 1264 01:53:15.119 --> 01:53:19.800 sacrifices and the good results that their behavior and attitude and the things that they 1265 01:53:19.880 --> 01:53:26.640 do. Therefore, many times behind a controlling and recriminating mom, what there 1266 01:53:26.640 --> 01:53:30.640 is is a mom who is looking for that gratification, believe she wants that 1267 01:53:30.680 --> 01:53:33.039 she is not receiving it and that, therefore, demands it through recrimination and 1268 01:53:33.159 --> 01:53:39.279 control. Okay so the best way to make a happy mom feel and the 1269 01:53:40.079 --> 01:53:43.920 best way to give her gratitude not only for the process of bringing us alive 1270 01:53:44.039 --> 01:53:46.159 to the barrier all that time, with all the hormonal changes that they assume 1271 01:53:46.239 --> 01:53:48.640 we' ve talked about at the end of life train, but for all 1272 01:53:49.039 --> 01:53:53.199 the sacrifices that my mom has made afterwards already appear more or seem less for 1273 01:53:53.199 --> 01:53:58.199 those things that make her need recognition, she needs us to be able to 1274 01:53:58.199 --> 01:54:00.640 tell her. I see this and I like it clear. I see this 1275 01:54:00.720 --> 01:54:03.960 and my help you do this. I obviate this and charge myself less, 1276 01:54:04.159 --> 01:54:10.279 feel less charged or feel less anxious to agree, i e, a recognition 1277 01:54:10.399 --> 01:54:12.600 of what it does and of the good results. And, on the other 1278 01:54:12.600 --> 01:54:15.399 hand, as has been said, make them feel unique. So, to 1279 01:54:15.399 --> 01:54:19.560 make us feel unique a mom, we need to know her tastes look at 1280 01:54:19.680 --> 01:54:23.800 once, know her tastes to be able to give it. So, in 1281 01:54:23.840 --> 01:54:26.520 some moms it will be a hug, in others it was more flowers and 1282 01:54:26.720 --> 01:54:31.920 the other eye will be a magnificent lemon ice cream in the natural one for 1283 01:54:31.960 --> 01:54:34.119 example, it is not all these things. What' s clear our moms 1284 01:54:34.239 --> 01:54:39.840 is in the nothing gratified, of course how many. Well, here are 1285 01:54:39.880 --> 01:54:45.760 a lot, besides instructions, reflections on the fundamental role of mothers in our 1286 01:54:45.840 --> 01:54:49.760 psychoemotional development, in the growth also of our children learning to be mothers and 1287 01:54:49.840 --> 01:54:56.760 how to show gratitude was the last question and answer of Judith gas O, 1288 01:54:57.119 --> 01:55:02.079 our beloved psychotherapist. Being mothers more than a day. One day, it 1289 01:55:02.279 --> 01:55:09.119 is important to make the mother feel, because she feels honored and admired and 1290 01:55:09.279 --> 01:55:13.800 valued. Of course no one forgets about this, as Judy sends you a 1291 01:55:13.920 --> 01:55:18.199 very affectionate hug, just as much for all those mommys. Thank you, 1292 01:55:18.720 --> 01:56:00.720 thank you all thanks you travel on the train of important life. Gentlemen, 1293 01:56:00.880 --> 01:56:05.199 we have reached the end of our intense journey this morning with our friend Salvador 1294 01:56:05.359 --> 01:56:14.920 Martí, president of that new party of Christian philosophy, of truth and transversal, 1295 01:56:15.760 --> 01:56:19.119 also because it is and very interesting. Everything he has told us It 1296 01:56:19.319 --> 01:56:24.439 has been a magnificent interview, but we have also had the interview that I, 1297 01:56:24.640 --> 01:56:30.359 the Foster, journalist of pro magnifico, has done to our beloved Nicky 1298 01:56:30.359 --> 01:56:34.119 Cruz, who is in Spain, in different cities this weekend in Madrid, 1299 01:56:34.520 --> 01:56:40.520 with several very important public events, together with Gary Wilkerson and others better, 1300 01:56:42.159 --> 01:56:45.439 because, it has been a pleasure to listen to ours. Me. I 1301 01:56:45.479 --> 01:56:49.399 have a very nice friendship relationship with Nicky and I appreciate her very much influenced 1302 01:56:49.439 --> 01:56:54.600 my conversion, in the beginnings of my conversion, the testimony of Niki Cruz 1303 01:56:55.560 --> 01:56:58.760 and I always keep a very great affection, eighty- five years and out 1304 01:56:58.800 --> 01:57:02.279 there struggling still preaching the Gospel to the right and to the left. And 1305 01:57:02.479 --> 01:57:08.119 of course, because Judit Caso, speaking of the figure of the mother, 1306 01:57:09.279 --> 01:57:13.159 an irreplaceable figure on Mother' s Day, which in Spain is the first 1307 01:57:13.199 --> 01:57:16.560 Sunday of May, in Latin America is the second Sunday. Well, they 1308 01:57:16.960 --> 01:57:24.720 have two celebrations. We celebrate with bouquets of flowers to the mothers and a 1309 01:57:24.800 --> 01:57:31.399 dedication some important detail to honor the mothers who deserve it. And Jude Caso 1310 01:57:31.479 --> 01:57:35.720 has told us excellent things to keep in mind. Well, nothing more and 1311 01:57:35.800 --> 01:57:40.920 nothing less remember that you can write for any question of your interest to Julio 1312 01:57:41.000 --> 01:57:45.319 Pérez Arroba the train of life. Point is I will tell you that my 1313 01:57:45.479 --> 01:57:48.279 book by the way traveling on the train of life, is a book to 1314 01:57:48.359 --> 01:57:53.760 invest it in the radio project all the benefits that can be achieved with it. 1315 01:57:54.840 --> 01:58:00.199 We haven' t had it physically because they had a problem on Amazon 1316 01:58:01.239 --> 01:58:05.359 ' s editorial platform and in a few days it will be on the platform. 1317 01:58:05.479 --> 01:58:10.560 We' ll announce the coerce and how to get the book. The 1318 01:58:10.640 --> 01:58:15.800 book is a copy of about 200 pages. It has a cost of fifteen 1319 01:58:15.800 --> 01:58:19.760 euros. It is reinvested in the support of our radio project. What I 1320 01:58:19.840 --> 01:58:25.199 can achieve and to keep the work of the train of the life of a 1321 01:58:25.279 --> 01:58:29.520 server that is has to do with our radio station here and all the friends 1322 01:58:29.600 --> 01:58:35.319 that we meet to travel in so many cities every week, for nothing more, 1323 01:58:35.560 --> 01:58:39.520 if nothing less. Julio Perez takes the train of life. Point is 1324 01:58:39.600 --> 01:59:13.600 anything of your interest. They can always write evangelical churches. A place of 1325 01:59:13.720 --> 01:59:19.720 peace and friendship. You can freely attend the nearest evangelical church in your neighborhood 1326 01:59:19.840 --> 01:59:24.159 or your population. You' ll be very welcome.