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Welcome to I on the Ball here
Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera.

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He's Jagan Zawis. We don't have
any kids this week our child support

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payment, so I can say we
shouldn't be having any kids anyway. You're

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still coughing them for a little bit. I am a little bit. I

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think I'm you know, getting a
little bits better by the day. I'm

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well enough to go, you know, do my job at the basketball game

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tonight. I'm still testing negative and
so I got a call. Yeah,

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the question is will the Cats do
their job to it? And you know,

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I think we'll we'll last REGI carry
that, you know. Oh well,

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yeah, yeah, he saw he
was front row on that bay.

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He wanted to make sure that we
knew that he's not doing the game tonight.

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So that's okay, that's what we
get. We get. We get

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to ask him some questions then yeah, and he'll be he'll be playing with

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us, honest with us. He
went through a few of these. I

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remember a few while bringing those up
as specifically, I mean, what mind

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they were the senior year they went
to say, they went to Stanford,

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Uh got beat and they and unless
Reggie, Joseph Blair, Joe McClain,

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Corey Williams, Reggie who is the
guard? Who's the Reggie was? Must

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have been the guard because Corey was
a three, Joe McClain, j B

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Ben Davis, Ben Davis uh and
uh No, No, In fact,

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I don't think JB was on the
team anymore. Remember he got academically ineligible.

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They went and they lost to Stanford. It was the team was kind

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of in disarray. I know Corey. I did a story. I don't

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know if I'll bring this up to
Reggie, but TRD the story that they

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were some in house kind of like
jealousies. Because guess what happens and and

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and I'm not saying that all mention
happened. A lot of them were seniors.

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So when your seniors and at the
end of the your career, what

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are you thinking, NBA, I
need the ball exactly. I got to

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get my numbers. They righted the
ship and they fell into Sweet sixteen.

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But those are the things that remember, Sean would say, things are going

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okay now, but the outside noise, the outside noise, so everything and

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anything can happen to a Dean at
any time. Yeah. And also remember

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last year was kicking the crap out
of Stafford and then they lost. Then

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they lost. Stuff happens, Jay, You've seen it a number of times.

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Sometimes the rambl are covered and sometimes
they aren't done the last second.

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Can that was but you know what, that was awful on Saturday. I

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mean it was bad from the from
the get go. You're talking about Sunday.

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Sunday. It was nine to nothing
and it never got better. Yeah,

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I think that they I don't know, do you think they lowed themselves

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into believing that they can make a
run at any time that could be it,

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because you know that that's been that's
been their thing, you know,

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I mean, I know I sat
there through the whole game, waiting,

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Okay, they're gonna make a run. They make a run, They're gonna

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make They're gonna make a run.
And they never made the run. Stanford

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kept running right, no, right, and then when you have no solution,

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but you have a solution that just
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You wonder if there's a time,
if there was a time in that

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game where Tommy just kind of threw
his hands up and said, you know,

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they're not winning this game. In
fact, Jay, I know you're

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the Twitter guys. I saw something
on Twitter yesterday fans. I guess they

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took a shot of the coaching on
the sideline and they looked distraught. Tommy

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had his arms crossed, and it
had to be with a minute left,

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and they're saying, look, look, this is what the coaching is doing.

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They were getting round. What are
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you don't have a twenty exactly?
I would look that way too, And

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so they showed these guys they should
be No, they were already either butt

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kicked. Yeah, you know,
time and circumstances of a photo. Oh

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look he's not smiling. What the
hell was there to smile about? True?

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Yeah, you know what, don't
listen to theirs on a fan right

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now? Running there are you know, and there and there's another thing,

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Jaya, and you know this because
we we all went through this. Oh

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ninety seven, they lost nine,
don't worry, well, that doesn't.

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Ninety seven has nothing to do with
this year. Ninety eight has nothing.

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They're in the moment today. They
got to get themselves out of it.

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I know. But that's also a
way of saying it's gonna be okay,

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it's gonna be fine. Sure,
you know they can go. This is

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how bad it can be and you
can still do this. You're trying to

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give fans perspective. Dand what the
hell you wasted your time? Go have

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a shot of whiskey. Man,
I need a shot of something, but

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you need a toddy hot toddy.
I'm drinking some coffee. Okay, okay,

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but hey, he's a good game
tonight, big game tonight, and

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it's always a huge game. They're
eleven and two. Yeah, I know

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why they're not ranked, but you
know they're not ranked, but they're close.

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But if they win, they'll be
ranked. You know, Look,

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Colorad always Color is that team in
historically for Arizonea, it's that team that

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everybody looks at color and says you
should kick their ass. Sure, but

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you haven't. But they're always tough
to play. Yeah, well you remember

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the last second shot with the fingertips. Yeah, yeah, I know his

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name is Yeah, you know,
you know it's Arizona has a tough time

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with them all the time. And
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when UCLA comes in, not this
not this year's UCLA, but anytime UCLA

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comes in Arizona, you know,
Arizona fans expect a tough game. Expect

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hey, we could lose because it's
UCLA or whoever. Colorado is that team

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that doesn't get any respect as a
basketball program from Arizona fans. All right,

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so anytime Arizona plays Colorado, they
think it's Colorado, you should beat

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them. Well, that's not necessarily
true. And this team is one of

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those teams where Arizona better have its
act together. They better not do what

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they did even close to what they
did against Stanford where they're gonna get beat

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tonight, they need to play well. Totally totally agree. I was gonna

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say now I lost the train of
thought. And obviously they're pretty good UCLA.

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The thing about it with Arizona,
they need every win in the conference.

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They just do because the conference sucks
outside of the Colorado really u c

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l A lost to Stanford. In
fact, I wanted to start the show

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today and then we got sidetracked.
How about them Cardinals. How about them

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Cardinals they beat They went to u
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card the Cardinal. Yeah, the
Cardinals, Uh, how about them?

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They're going to UCLA the Airson to
turn their season around maybe maybe well

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they got the kid. Yeah,
they got some guys back. Yeah,

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you know, so there, you
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back, and you know, we
talked about that with Brian Jefferies yesterday.

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But you know, they're there,
They've got more of their guys back and

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maybe that win, you know,
it turns everything around them. Although I've

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never been that impressed with with uh, they're they're called Jared Haws. Yeah,

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dawksh Yeah, Jared Haw. I've
never been that. You know,

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he just doesn't look you ever see
they ever see the movie hang Over to

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where the father in law calls calls
the guy what do you call him,

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I don't know, like milky Rice
or something, the guy the guy who

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had his tooth. Yeah, yeah, he just takes like he's just kind

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of playing in vanilla. Yeah,
yeah, you're right, he was just

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kind of seeing he's Stanford, he's
booking Stafford, he's books, you know,

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he's a good guy. I'm not. I don't mean to criticize him

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and say he just he doesn't inspire
fear in anything. You're the looks guy.

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He's not coming off the buzz guy, right. So it's not an

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airport in airport right, right,
But he did airport you in nineteen ninety

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six, if you remember, he
was with Kansas and he's the one that

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nailed the shot in the corner the
defeated Arizona to that same team we're talking

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about. So I the one thing
I was going to say to you,

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and I remember what I was training
of thought that Tommy has not I think

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he's gone. Whatever times he's lost, he never lost two in a row,

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never lost two in a row.
Right, So there's that. Have

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they covered. I don't know he
lost two out of three, you know,

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a couple of weeks ago. But
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row. So look and I and
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way of gaining the attention of his
guys. We'll see and and again the

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approach being we stopped talking about Stanford
the day after the Stanford game. Sure,

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you said to Bruce, you think
we didn't practice the day after that,

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of course they did. You know, you get it out of their

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system and move on to the next
thing. Sure, Bruce is such an

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innocent target really, because you know, it's a question, it was a

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fair question. Did you see did
you see ideas press converce a snippet or

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two? I I only saw a
quote coming out of that that's saying five

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stars and stuff like that or not
where she wants to go. Okay,

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no, there was one. There
was one that came out of the news

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yesterday. I didn't I didn't see
it live or anything, but she was

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a bit snippy in a question about
her defense and offense. He says,

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we're not gonna ban on defense.
It got us to the national title game,

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and you're you're talking to a coach
who coached I'm paraphrasing that. I'm

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probably screened it up, but we
you know, we went to a national

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championship with our defense, and we're
going to stick to it. You know.

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It's kind of like defending how she
plays. And it was not in

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a bad knock of Tommy Lloyd tone, but it was in her don't screw

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with me, don't don't try to
me what to do exactly right, exactly.

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No, little little testy over there, Michael, Which is fine.

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I mean, let me tell you
something, Tucson, and not to say

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that they're in bed with the teams, because you know we've been around,

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but they are. Yeah, yeah, of course. I mean I just

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see I see media people defending the
coaches, whether it's Tommy or da or

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Jed or whoever. There's a lot
of there's a lot of defending of coaches

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in uh in the media. Now
they're not that they're so much rooting for

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him, for them, but kind
of like this is what they meant,

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kind of like defending them when they
say things. Right, Bruce doesn't do

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that, so he doesn't do it
at all, but a lot of the

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other media does, including some media
at the Star. Yeah, we should

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wait on Michael Lev's not one of
those guys either. He could be on

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the show today because we still want
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few the things that have been going
on. Yeah, no, no,

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okay, So Michael Lev will be
here in about ten a team minutes right,

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Well, no, no, he's
at four to seventeen. Yeah,

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no, we got right regigary Forgie
first regigary about three in about uh Yeah,

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in about ten minutes, you'll be
coming on and uh, you know,

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look, we'll ask him about Stanford, but we also want to say,

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okay, what's you know, what's
up tonight? Right right? In

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evaluating the team as well, you
know, and again Reggie being a former

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player, is one of those guys
that we can pick his brain about,

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you know, what this team is
going through after after having something like that,

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uh, you know go against you
right right. Uh, you know,

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Stanford's not always easy. Colorado will
see what happens because they are good

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this year. So, like I
said, we'll see what happens. Yeah,

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I got I'm looking for this text. I got a text yesterday talking

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about asking you do Bruce and Tommy
Lloyd get along because he seems to poke

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at it because they heard the press
car on the shows. He said,

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what is that like? He just
you know, Bruce is just kind of

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a target to poke at. It's
not unfriendly. I don't think they have

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a bad relationship. No, I
think Tommy likes to poke at him as

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sort of got a comfortable Let's also
remember that there's no one in this town.

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Back in the day, it was
Bruce and I traveling with the team

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together, him and I together.
Uh, and we're the only dudes that

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were traveling. Greg showed up every
now and again. So it was me,

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Bruce and and Greg every now and
again with lout for for twenty years

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or whatever it was for twenty years. Uh, and now then Sean,

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and then Sean came in and they
those guys had a little test. Sean

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would be Sean to a lot of
everybody, even including Bruce. But but

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remember that Bruce is trying to do
his job, and Tommy's all he knows

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well because none of us travel with
him except for except for Bruce. About

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Bruce, about that is that Bruce
has got to get as much material as

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possible, and he's got to get
something different from everybody else who they're posting

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what they've got the minute they get
it. And Bruce has the right for

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the newspaper and stuff that's gonna you
know, right and every day Bob is

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a little different, right. And
luckily for Bruce because the other guys wouldn't

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have the material because he's asking a
lot of the questions. You know.

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Uh, he thanks me when I
go because we asked questions. You know.

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We add to the to the criteria
of the guys asking like real questions.

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Well, and that's another thing,
because yesterday he Bruce gets into the

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weeds. He does get into the
weeds, and that Tommy wishes he wouldn't,

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you know, And that's you know, what did you have for breakfast?

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Type of stuff? You know,
But it's all part of his story.

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He's got you know again, he's
got to have more stuff, more

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angle than everybody else, you know, because he could you have for breakfast

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to day? So here's my story. As Jay got out of bed and

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brushed his teeth, he sat at
the table and the eggs and eggs and

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it was all part of a nutritious
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it's a part of the story.
People don't understand that. But but

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if you're on a one and one
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a podium and everybody, yeah,
and that's the problem. Everybody's getting the

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same stuff exactly, Like, why
are you asking that? It doesn't matter

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to me? Right right, Well, I'll bring your point of Channel thirteen,

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damon, Damien, help me to
ask someone you know about his growing

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up being an insurance guy, growing
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at press comments midway through the first
season, I think it was, and

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someone looked at him says, why
are you asking me these questions? Well,

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this is the only time we have
access to you. If you're not

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going to meet me somewhere else at
two o'clock in your office, where do

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I get to ask that? And
I'm trying to do so that's what you're

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get. So that's what you're getting. If you're going to say, give

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me five minutes somewhere here. Okay, I won't ask this question, but

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you know, what did you have
for breakfast? Or yeah, yeah,

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I just found tweet. There's some
language in it that I can't use,

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but not tweet a text to me
asking about does Tommy Bruce every time?

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No? No, hey, But
he poked at it question because it's it's

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the militia type of stuff. You
know, it's funny stuff anyway. But

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you know again, you know,
we'll get to this with with Reggie here

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and I'm here in about five minutes. But this is a huge game.

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Very Arizona's really got it. It's
got to show that it's right in itself

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and that it's got to try and
show that that game on Sunday was a

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one. So you talked yesterday Ardi
had another two. I'm play the first

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two, which is the five.
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team in the West. Yeah,
yeah, And he said that, he

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said, look, there's still a
one. Yeah, but where they are

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right now is there? There are
two for today? What's today? Which

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is fine? January third turn and
fourth January before? So what does it

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mean? Not dead? That's like
what they say if the playoffs were done

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today. Well, the playoffs aren't
being done today, so shut up.

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I know you're you're right, Steve. It means it's it's it's conversation,

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and that's what sure, that's what
we're here for, correct, and that's

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what we do, all right.
Reggie Gary coming up in about five minutes.

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They'll be sure to stick around.
We'll get his take first on what

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here Fox Sports fourteen fifty of Steve
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the phone. We have forwork.
You'll they guard Reggie Geary. How are

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you, Reggie? I'm good.
I'm good, guys. Oh, Happy

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New Year? Sam? Do you
Reggie good? How was your New Year?

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I don't want to ask you how
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you witnessed something something that wasn't fun. Yeah, and New Year's Day was

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a little difficult. Uh, you
know, fortunately, uh the night went

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a little bit better. But all
in all it was a great New Year.

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But obviously a nice about that win
in Stanford. So Grig, you

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see, you sat up front,
got got to see it up close and

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personal. I mean, just what
the hell happened? I mean, what

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what do you think? Uh?
Went wrong on Sunday? All across the

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board? Yeah, you know,
you know, after after a pretty strong

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performance in cal especially in the first
half. He really thought, or I

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had though, at least for that
road trip that we kind of had you

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know, correct corrected some things,
especially energy wise, and just being a

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little more aggressive and and kind of
you know, our pickup points and just

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just overall being more aggressive and then
just to come into the Stanford game and

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get off to a slow start as
they did. You know, we missed

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a couple of layups that didn't help. And I think maybe I don't know,

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the mythum just swung so great in
that first half where Stamford has every

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every time they got to make buck
and they just got more and more confident,

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really you know, propelled by their
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and just you know, from there
it was just you know, just

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it was just tough studying for twenty
minutes. Yeah, no question. It's

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almost like you you're stuck in sand
and you can't get out, more like

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concrete. Actually, I was explaining
to to the Jay here. Uh,

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it's not like you haven't gone through
stuff like that. I remember your senior

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year at Stanford coincidentally, where things
just didn't go right and you lost In

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fact, you lost them twice that
year. Yeah, and sometimes that happens.

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I do remember that that trip.
It was a frustrating trip, things

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weren't clicking as well, and and
you know, and when you find yourself

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on the road and everything is out
aligned, you know, upsets can happen.

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I think Jayden Bradley said it best
recently talking about some of the defensive

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woes that, hey, our connectivity
which is not as connected as we once

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were. And so I know they've
been spending the last few days over the

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break getting and you know ready for
these Rockey Mountain schools want to get that

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connectivity back, get that that defensive
edge back, so hopefully that will be

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their time. So, Reggie,
you're known for being a defender, one

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of the better ones in the in
the team history. You can kind of

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correct me and say the best one. I'm fine with that. Uh but

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keny ken defenses are weird. Either
you got it or you don't? Is

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that true? Or can you You
can get better at it, but can

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you get it or not get it? Yeah? I mean when we say

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that, I don't know if there's
so much talking about defense, but maybe

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just some of that, you know, in a resilience fortitude that you know

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out of that mental and more more
important physical toughness, and not everyone has

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that, you know, and that's
fine, but it's something that everyone can

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do nonetheless, and you know,
effet wise, you know, that's just

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something you can control. And for
me, it's something I enjoy it.

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And when you start enjoying it and
have the passion for it and realizing the

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importance of it, you know,
whoever that person, that's when that's when

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it has a great meeting. And
when you do that team, that's when

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you're really cooking. It was on
the shown that this year. First,

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you know, ten games, you
know, defensive, they really were locked

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in for whatever reason that for game
and since there's just been a little bit

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of a little bit of a step
back. So you go through a game

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like that and now you got you
got a you know, a tough Colorado

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team coming in and I get it. You know, nobody in the Pac

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twelve is ranked but Arizona. But
these guys they're eleven and two, they're

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pretty good. They're always tough.
Yeah, they've always had a toughness about

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them. You know, how do
you move on what's going on in the

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locker room to get zeroed in on
this game? You know, we know

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Tommy's in his press conference as they
said, I've moved on, and he

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was like giving the media some crap
about not moving on. But how,

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you know, how do you as
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have to do in your mind?
You know, to get zeroed in on

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the next game and shake what it
just happened to you. Yeah, you

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got to get back in the gym. You got to get back in the

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gym. And I'm sure coach Lloyd
and the staff, all the players have

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done that. You get back in
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if you break it back down almost
to a simplest compound and start with

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the fundamentals again and start kind of
building the other directions. You get in,

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you start getting the shots up,
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both individual as a team, and
and you just try to figure it out

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because physically, you know, you're
fine. It just mentally we're just not

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from the right places. And so
it's important to get back on the horse,

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get back in the gym. There's
gonna be some question marks and some

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small anxiety going tonight's game about how
we're going to respond. But you know,

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you have to respect Colild They're a
good basketball team. They have talented

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player kJ Simpson. I mean he
is a he's he's the first first team

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Pac twelve candidate, maybe even played
the year type candidate. Coming off thirty

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four points last game. You know, they Cody Williams of talented fresher and

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out of Gilbert who is on the
tear right now. In the last two

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games he scored twenty and both of
those Tristan the Silva, you know,

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we all know him. He's a
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might. I think they're going to
have him back for the games coming up.

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An ankle injury and so and it's
a team that scores eighty five points

407
00:25:49.640 --> 00:25:53.480
like they want to get up and
down and and they're explosive. So defensively,

408
00:25:53.480 --> 00:25:57.119
Arizona's gonna have to be on tonight. So I also think that,

409
00:25:57.200 --> 00:26:00.480
you know, having covering you guys
forever, that one game, you know,

410
00:26:00.880 --> 00:26:03.400
one game is a season. You
move on to the next season.

411
00:26:03.880 --> 00:26:07.480
How how And this may be a
dumb question, I even know how to

412
00:26:07.519 --> 00:26:11.000
phrase it. Okay, So you
have one bad game, you win ten,

413
00:26:11.160 --> 00:26:14.880
you lose one, and everybody focuses
what on the one? Right?

414
00:26:15.160 --> 00:26:18.240
Uh? And it was just something
that happens. Did you believe that as

415
00:26:18.240 --> 00:26:22.400
a player here. Yeah, I
mean, if it's just a one off,

416
00:26:22.400 --> 00:26:26.279
in my mind, that's not too
no concerning, you know, nights

417
00:26:26.359 --> 00:26:30.240
like that happened. I mean,
uh, you just often you still have

418
00:26:30.279 --> 00:26:33.319
that yet still realization held on.
I'm still a good basketball player. We're

419
00:26:33.319 --> 00:26:37.000
still a really good basketball team.
And that being the case, if we

420
00:26:37.279 --> 00:26:41.680
just refocus our mind to get back
to practicing and playing hard, that things

421
00:26:41.720 --> 00:26:44.640
will correct themselves and we'll go back
to our winning ways. It's when it

422
00:26:44.640 --> 00:26:45.839
starts crying over. You know,
if you loft two in a row or

423
00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:48.799
three out of five, and you're
stample side could a little bit bigger,

424
00:26:48.960 --> 00:26:52.039
that's when it can be a little
more concerning. It's a dow coom.

425
00:26:52.279 --> 00:26:55.039
If it's a one off, get
back in the gym, realize, hey,

426
00:26:55.039 --> 00:26:57.640
this is not going to occur again
and be bad time out? Did

427
00:26:57.720 --> 00:27:02.559
you? Did you? Maybe some
of your guys I mentioned the group earlier,

428
00:27:02.799 --> 00:27:06.079
a good group with Corey and JB
and Ben. Did you guys play

429
00:27:06.200 --> 00:27:11.640
pissed at times after a loss like
that? Yeah? I mean, I

430
00:27:11.640 --> 00:27:14.359
mean whether whether I was playing at
the U of A, you know,

431
00:27:14.920 --> 00:27:18.319
playing professionally, you know, coaching
for the fourteen years I did you always

432
00:27:18.319 --> 00:27:22.319
want to have an end. You
always want to play with a little bit

433
00:27:22.359 --> 00:27:25.119
of fire in your belly. And
and and I think, you know,

434
00:27:25.319 --> 00:27:26.400
there's a lot of ways to go
about that. I could do that.

435
00:27:26.440 --> 00:27:29.559
I could play with that intensity and
have a little bit of chip, but

436
00:27:29.640 --> 00:27:33.319
also smile and talk a little stuff
and have a little fun but all the

437
00:27:33.319 --> 00:27:37.400
time be siously competitive. But you
definitely want to have a little edge.

438
00:27:37.160 --> 00:27:40.599
This is Arizona. You're gonna have
a target on your back. You have

439
00:27:40.640 --> 00:27:44.400
to realize that. Yeah, and
you can find it almost disrespectful to someone's

440
00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:47.799
going to come in here and try
to beat you. And so hopefully you

441
00:27:47.799 --> 00:27:51.200
have to play with that buyer.
Who who on this team can can bring

442
00:27:51.279 --> 00:27:56.400
that the most or who do they
need to bring that right? You know,

443
00:27:56.920 --> 00:27:59.920
I mean all of you guys that
they're really out, they're playing the

444
00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:03.119
art time right now, they're playing
hard. You know, I just collectively

445
00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:07.680
they just have to get back to
playing with that same fire together. And

446
00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:10.519
you know, that's what makes great
basketball so great. You can it's not

447
00:28:10.559 --> 00:28:14.400
an individual sports. You need all
five guys on the same page playing with

448
00:28:14.440 --> 00:28:21.400
that connectivity, and it's on one
guy on everyone. You know, energy

449
00:28:21.440 --> 00:28:25.480
is infectionous when one guy has it. When Colin Bonds was picking up bull

450
00:28:25.519 --> 00:28:27.759
court and guys are stending and Bobo
is doing his thing, it's infectionous and

451
00:28:29.279 --> 00:28:33.960
they need that energy to be throughout
the team. Right. So one of

452
00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:37.319
the things that Tommy did after the
game that day and then again tuesday,

453
00:28:37.440 --> 00:28:41.440
we Wednesday in this press converce so
was he called out the guards. They're

454
00:28:41.440 --> 00:28:45.240
getting the ask ask ask kick being
a guard. And I said this yesterday

455
00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:48.519
on the show. Back in ninety
seven, ninety eight, if Bibby was

456
00:28:48.519 --> 00:28:51.559
off, Miles showed up, if
Miles didn't show up, and baby Terry

457
00:28:51.640 --> 00:28:55.880
was showed up, differention they had
like four headed monster right to different degrees.

458
00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:56.960
And your team, I think you
were the guy. You were the

459
00:28:57.000 --> 00:29:02.480
guy, But this year they have
four headed monster. Kind of was that

460
00:29:02.559 --> 00:29:06.960
surprising to you because the backcourt got
beat so bad? Yeah, you know,

461
00:29:07.160 --> 00:29:11.359
I mean obviously, you know,
you know, cantabiddy ability is important.

462
00:29:11.400 --> 00:29:14.640
I think that's what Tommy's alluding to, that, Hey, take some

463
00:29:14.720 --> 00:29:18.039
personal pride and defend some people.
You know, killed Love has done a

464
00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:22.559
great job offensely last few games.
Colin Balstiwall, I think it's fair to

465
00:29:22.880 --> 00:29:26.160
be struggling with the shot and maybe
that's affected him a little bit, but

466
00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:29.599
I'm looking for him to bounce back. K J. Lewis has been terrific,

467
00:29:29.680 --> 00:29:33.440
and so I Jayden Bradley. But
I don't know if they give you

468
00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:37.039
the same type production as bottle will
over the long haul. So you know,

469
00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:38.400
they got the guys, Peel Larson, they have the players. It's

470
00:29:38.400 --> 00:29:41.920
more of a mental and physical thing
right now, and they just got to

471
00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:44.880
figure their way out of it.
Okay. So so having said that,

472
00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:47.839
figuring their way out of it,
what is the way out of it?

473
00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:52.319
You know, the guards obviously have
to play better defensively, but you know

474
00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:57.319
they just looked in complete disarray on
on on uh on Sunday. You know,

475
00:29:59.079 --> 00:30:00.759
but before that, we you know, we're sitting here saying we don't

476
00:30:00.759 --> 00:30:04.440
know what their flaws are and then
we found them. So, you know,

477
00:30:04.680 --> 00:30:07.880
how do you play your way out
of something like that? Or you

478
00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:11.440
know, let's say they fall behind
early, you know tonight, what happens

479
00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:17.359
there? Well, I mean just
go back to Stamford game. You know,

480
00:30:17.759 --> 00:30:21.680
after credit they shot they shot the
ball at a rarely high clip and

481
00:30:21.720 --> 00:30:23.960
shot the ball. Well, so
I definitely want to get Stanford credit for

482
00:30:25.039 --> 00:30:29.480
that. Defensively, you know tonight
you get back on it. You can

483
00:30:29.559 --> 00:30:32.359
start the game with energy the first
five minutes. You come out and play

484
00:30:32.359 --> 00:30:33.759
the right way, and you come
out with a lot of energy, and

485
00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:37.039
you see you're at and then you
take a break and can do another five

486
00:30:37.079 --> 00:30:41.240
minutes. And you do that eight
times and so you know, I think

487
00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:42.880
you just have to take a step
by step. Not they're not get ahead

488
00:30:42.880 --> 00:30:45.240
of our selves, think about the
end of the game. Just start the

489
00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:48.599
game with the you know, we
got the horses and got the guys,

490
00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:53.279
and if you face them, that
whould be double down on Tommy's philosophy,

491
00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:57.359
double down on the team philosophy,
and not splinter. And so you know,

492
00:30:57.519 --> 00:31:00.240
those are two ways they could address
that. Yeah, no question.

493
00:31:00.359 --> 00:31:03.599
In fact, uh, that game
would have ten assists. I think it

494
00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:07.799
was. It was totally not the
team we've seen for two plus years where

495
00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:11.000
they shared ball, they moved all
around. I'm sure that was what you

496
00:31:11.079 --> 00:31:15.319
were. What did you how was
your how was your your play by play?

497
00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:18.759
How was your color analyst job?
That day? Was a tough no,

498
00:31:18.960 --> 00:31:22.079
I mean, I mean it's first
of all, it's over the pleasure

499
00:31:22.119 --> 00:31:23.720
of with Bran Jeffers. But you
know, it is what it is frustrating

500
00:31:23.720 --> 00:31:26.680
because you really want the guys to
do well and you're right there with them

501
00:31:27.200 --> 00:31:30.759
and they were not playing well.
You have to describe them not playing well

502
00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:34.519
right right, and so that can
be that can be difficult. But like

503
00:31:34.559 --> 00:31:37.200
I said, I have full belief
in this team. I just think they're

504
00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:41.759
going to just get better and better. There's a young team, yeah,

505
00:31:41.799 --> 00:31:42.799
no question, and they are,
and you know, we like to think

506
00:31:42.799 --> 00:31:45.799
that they're not because Cayle, you
know, Kyler Boswell has been here for

507
00:31:47.039 --> 00:31:48.799
being playing for two years now.
Well he's still like twelve years old.

508
00:31:48.839 --> 00:31:52.480
So I mean, you know,
it's you just you know, you just

509
00:31:52.559 --> 00:31:56.079
have to still realize, you know, uh uh what, Jade Bradley is

510
00:31:56.119 --> 00:31:59.680
a young guy. I'm a bunch
of young guys. I know. I

511
00:31:59.720 --> 00:32:02.319
know. You you've got a key
shot who he looks like an old man.

512
00:32:02.359 --> 00:32:05.960
He looks like he's been around for
a while and you're relying on him

513
00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:07.640
to, you know, to kind
of carry some of that. But you

514
00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:10.519
know, they are still a bunch
of young guys and people have to realize

515
00:32:10.519 --> 00:32:15.319
that, Yeah, the young guy's
a lot of success right out the gate,

516
00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:17.720
and we're in that rare air number
one in the nation, top five

517
00:32:17.759 --> 00:32:23.400
in the country, and that sometimes
is psychologically it can be difficult to digest

518
00:32:23.400 --> 00:32:25.359
if you haven't been there a lot. You don't have some veteran guys,

519
00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:30.160
and they do have veteran guys,
but just collectively, you know, that

520
00:32:30.200 --> 00:32:31.599
takes them getting used to. Now
they've taken a little bit of a knock.

521
00:32:31.759 --> 00:32:35.079
I'm loving. I'm going to love
to see them bounce back and start

522
00:32:35.079 --> 00:32:37.759
going in the other direction. So
I have here's another little anecdote for you.

523
00:32:38.559 --> 00:32:42.119
It kind of applies to this year. So in ninety five ninety six,

524
00:32:42.200 --> 00:32:45.000
you guys senior year, you lose
a damon the year before, people

525
00:32:45.160 --> 00:32:47.680
say, well, this team might
be okay. So I don't even think

526
00:32:47.680 --> 00:32:52.079
you guys were rated or ranked in
the first first to first poll. Right,

527
00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:55.119
you guys go to New York win
the n I t be Georgetown in

528
00:32:55.160 --> 00:32:59.039
the finals. Here you are.
I think you're making the top ten.

529
00:32:59.640 --> 00:33:01.400
And I said yesterday to a few
fans on the internet, you know,

530
00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:07.000
the great Internet, that one of
the things that is the hurt Arizona is

531
00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:09.839
to go to Duke to beat Duke
get all these high expectations, the fans

532
00:33:09.880 --> 00:33:14.119
go crazy, and they get all
these expectations, and they should be the

533
00:33:14.119 --> 00:33:17.240
most unbeatable team. You guys went
through that in ninety five ninety six,

534
00:33:17.319 --> 00:33:22.279
because that's how you started. Yeah, you know, that's exactly exactly right.

535
00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:28.200
You know, it was almost criminal
what the AP and the basketball did

536
00:33:28.200 --> 00:33:30.079
to us in terms of taking us
out of the top twenty five without having

537
00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:32.680
seen a flight, because they broke
our streak at the time, coach Olsen

538
00:33:32.720 --> 00:33:36.480
had a streak up like two hundred
you know, weeks in a row,

539
00:33:36.720 --> 00:33:38.480
so they broke it without even seeing
this, which was I thought criminals,

540
00:33:38.559 --> 00:33:42.480
and we were upset about that.
To win in the preseason an I T

541
00:33:42.599 --> 00:33:45.319
and being number three in the nation
right out the gate. Now, you

542
00:33:45.359 --> 00:33:47.720
know, keep in mind that team
had five seniors. We had you know,

543
00:33:47.799 --> 00:33:52.000
Miles Signing, Michael Dickers and Jason
Terry, so I thought we were

544
00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:54.799
maybe more mentally equipped then maybe this
group a little bit, just because we

545
00:33:54.799 --> 00:33:58.519
had been together so long and we
had been you know, number two and

546
00:33:58.559 --> 00:34:01.839
number three previously. But yeah,
that was a year we went, you

547
00:34:01.839 --> 00:34:05.920
know, not ranked the twenty five, and we handled the expectations. We

548
00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:08.400
knew every night where Arizona and what
does that mean? That means we're going

549
00:34:08.440 --> 00:34:12.679
to the other team's best game and
we need to be prepared to that,

550
00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:15.519
prepared that and actually prepared to play
harder than them, and we did that.

551
00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:19.360
Were not the Arizona is We need
to get back to that. And

552
00:34:19.400 --> 00:34:22.239
you're talking thirty years later and guess
what the lesson still needs to be learned.

553
00:34:23.320 --> 00:34:25.840
Oh no, no, it's all
relative. You know. That's crazy

554
00:34:25.920 --> 00:34:30.440
about this game. That's why I
love it. And yeah, the same

555
00:34:30.519 --> 00:34:34.320
lessons a fundamentally sound back then,
are still fundamentally sound today. Yeah right

556
00:34:34.440 --> 00:34:37.440
right, Okay, Reggie is always
thank you very much. Yeah, yeah,

557
00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:40.079
Jay, Steve, I appreciate you, guys man, thank you again

558
00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:44.840
and bear down all right, take
care. Thank you the Reggie Gary.

559
00:34:44.880 --> 00:34:47.199
I love this stuff because it's accurate. Well, well, it's accurate because

560
00:34:47.199 --> 00:34:51.039
you know he went through it.
I mean that's what life having guys like

561
00:34:51.039 --> 00:34:52.519
that on. Because you know,
Reggie, what was this like when you

562
00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:55.119
did this? Yeah? Right,
right, and how did you react?

563
00:34:55.159 --> 00:34:58.039
Well? I think I think he
gives us a lot of it. That

564
00:34:58.199 --> 00:35:00.400
year and they were unranked, they
in the in the n I t beat

565
00:35:00.400 --> 00:35:04.840
Georgetown, Arkansas or whatever, and
then all of a sudden, you're the

566
00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:07.320
crap. I want to say the
S word, but you're the crap and

567
00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:09.800
gets it. You start believing that
you said you don't your bulletproof, and

568
00:35:09.800 --> 00:35:13.719
then all of a sudden, somebody
starts punching you in the face. You're

569
00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:15.800
like, what the hell is that? Right? Exact? Not just once

570
00:35:16.360 --> 00:35:20.400
twice all day? Because you know
what, they want to kick your ass,

571
00:35:20.480 --> 00:35:22.719
right, they did, and they
did really bad, and then they

572
00:35:22.719 --> 00:35:24.840
want to kick your ass. So
you know there you go, all right,

573
00:35:25.559 --> 00:35:28.840
thank you, Reggie, that was
that was awesome. Appreciate it.

574
00:35:29.239 --> 00:35:30.039
Uh, we're gonna take a break, We're to come back. We'll take

575
00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:32.920
your costs. Five two zero four
one six seventy four forty. What do

576
00:35:32.960 --> 00:35:37.119
you want to see tonight with Colorado
coming into town? Uh? Looking for

577
00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:39.880
a big win, looking for just
a win? Uh? Do you care

578
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how much they went back? Give
us a call. Five two zero four

579
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Rivera and Jagin Salax. This is

630
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I on the Ball on Fox Sports
fourteen fifties. Hey, welcome back to

631
00:39:39.119 --> 00:39:42.719
win the ball here on Fox Sports
fourteen fifty I'm Steve, He's Jay.

632
00:39:42.719 --> 00:39:45.239
You've got about thirteen minutes. Have
you got the call? Do you want

633
00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:47.800
to call? Five two oh four
one four forty. We'd like to hear

634
00:39:47.840 --> 00:39:52.880
from you. Good discussion. We've
solved all the world's problems, including the

635
00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:57.599
best world tips. Yeah, we've
sold how Kylon Boswell and lit Love.

636
00:39:57.599 --> 00:40:01.119
We're gonna get out in guard Colorado
guards and not let him do what so

637
00:40:01.239 --> 00:40:06.159
far Purdue, Florida, Atlantic,
Stanford all did to them. It seems

638
00:40:06.199 --> 00:40:07.920
so simple, right right, That's
not no, it's not it's not.

639
00:40:08.360 --> 00:40:13.239
You know, It's it's funny because
it's it's in times like this that you

640
00:40:13.280 --> 00:40:15.320
find out how good a coach is
a coach, right, you know,

641
00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:19.760
Tommy Lloyd so far has been very
good at this is not losing two games

642
00:40:19.800 --> 00:40:22.760
in a row. Whatever issues they
have gained them fixed by the next game.

643
00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:27.519
He's had kind of a short week
because they played on Sunday, traveled

644
00:40:27.519 --> 00:40:30.320
back, right, you know,
and now you know they're they're they're coming

645
00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:32.199
in on Thursday and having to play
Colorado. But they did practice on Monday,

646
00:40:32.199 --> 00:40:36.760
did practice on they did not get
the day off. Yeah, you

647
00:40:36.840 --> 00:40:39.880
know, you know, and you
know, and people who you know who

648
00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:44.760
question whether Tommy's a good coach or
not? What does he have seventy one

649
00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:50.519
wins in two and a half seasons? Stop? Yeah? Yeah, Well

650
00:40:50.559 --> 00:40:52.480
so one of the guys, I
guess who reads me and we had a

651
00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:59.280
quick discussion. The jury still out, Jerry still what the jury? Well,

652
00:40:59.360 --> 00:41:01.320
because well, I guess the jury
for some people is going to be

653
00:41:01.320 --> 00:41:07.639
out until he does something well in
the in the UH in the Double A

654
00:41:07.719 --> 00:41:12.760
tournament. You know that in at
Arizona, that's where the jury makes its

655
00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:15.199
decisions. Sure, and for Sean
Miller never get you to go final four?

656
00:41:16.119 --> 00:41:20.679
What do you think do people what
do you think people think of Sean

657
00:41:20.719 --> 00:41:24.960
Miller as the coach at Arizona historically? Now, yeah, yeah, he

658
00:41:25.239 --> 00:41:29.239
won a lot of games. They
think he was pretty good, really good.

659
00:41:29.280 --> 00:41:31.119
Okay, give me give me a
level okay, excellent, Okay,

660
00:41:32.079 --> 00:41:38.280
you know, pretty good, pretty
good? Uh average? By average,

661
00:41:38.320 --> 00:41:45.320
I mean John did maybe what you
know, kind of the minimum No,

662
00:41:45.400 --> 00:41:49.400
so so social three four? Was
he bad? Okay? So I think

663
00:41:49.519 --> 00:41:52.760
depends, Like now, I think
it's pretty good because it's your three years

664
00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:57.199
removed from the you know, whatever
happened happened. It's kind of the recency

665
00:41:57.199 --> 00:42:00.199
bias is kind of fading away.
He wasn't actually it wasn't. Didn't get

666
00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:02.079
to the four. You know,
had a shot or two fall and he

667
00:42:02.079 --> 00:42:06.280
would have gone to the final four. Pretty good because he won a lot

668
00:42:06.280 --> 00:42:08.519
of games. I couched that by
saying, and I did the numbers.

669
00:42:09.079 --> 00:42:14.199
Fifty to sixty of those games came
against the Northern arizonas of the world,

670
00:42:14.320 --> 00:42:15.960
right, So he won a lot. Yeah, but let's put a little

671
00:42:16.000 --> 00:42:20.559
astress there. Yeah, because that's
it's true. What does three elite eighth

672
00:42:20.599 --> 00:42:25.119
get you here, three elites eight
here, what is it? Yeah,

673
00:42:25.559 --> 00:42:30.079
bon chips and that gets you to
pretty good, pretty good, right,

674
00:42:30.119 --> 00:42:34.239
And the problem with that is that
was early on in his career, at

675
00:42:34.280 --> 00:42:36.920
the end of the at the end
of the road, he didn't finish strong.

676
00:42:37.360 --> 00:42:39.079
No, in fact, people forget
that he won a lot, lost

677
00:42:39.119 --> 00:42:44.960
a lot of games consecutively, in
fact, since before Lute, because Lu

678
00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:47.840
didn't go on these losing streaks of
five, six, eight game Sean did.

679
00:42:49.079 --> 00:42:51.440
And I'm not here to rag Sean. But he was very good,

680
00:42:51.480 --> 00:42:53.639
and he still is a heck of
a good coach. He just didn't know

681
00:42:53.679 --> 00:42:59.760
the formula here. He wasn't great. He was very good or pretty good.

682
00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:04.159
Well, it might better than sort
of kind of what you would accept

683
00:43:04.280 --> 00:43:07.440
my in my departure and my departing
column on him the next day after he

684
00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:12.639
was fired, I said, what
is his legacy going to be? We're

685
00:43:12.679 --> 00:43:15.440
still talking about it and what is
it? We don't know. There's like

686
00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:19.360
two or three things to it right
now. I ever got quite to it,

687
00:43:19.599 --> 00:43:22.039
never got to the final four,
although he did get to the date

688
00:43:22.360 --> 00:43:24.320
three times. You know, had
a last second shot at one of those.

689
00:43:24.960 --> 00:43:29.480
At a couple of those, you
know the n C double A stuff

690
00:43:29.760 --> 00:43:32.639
that you know that that's part of
the legacy. You can't ignore that that

691
00:43:32.760 --> 00:43:37.440
happened, and that that you can't
ignore what kind of effect that had on

692
00:43:37.480 --> 00:43:39.159
the program, right right? So
okay, now, if the jury is

693
00:43:39.159 --> 00:43:43.519
still out on Tommy and I'm sure
people and I want to ask you this

694
00:43:43.719 --> 00:43:49.400
later after this, how much of
a sample size do you need? This

695
00:43:49.440 --> 00:43:52.239
is where I go to the momentum. This is why I don't believe in

696
00:43:52.280 --> 00:43:54.599
momentum, because if I walk to
the door, say eight feet to the

697
00:43:54.599 --> 00:43:59.239
door, is it one step?
Is that my momentum is two steps momentum.

698
00:43:59.320 --> 00:44:01.840
His three point is the moment when
you start to fall towards the door.

699
00:44:02.239 --> 00:44:06.840
Okay, so I got eight steps. I got eight steps, and

700
00:44:06.920 --> 00:44:09.280
I don't disagree with eight steps being
some momentum. But you know he's got

701
00:44:09.360 --> 00:44:14.320
momentum after two steps. No,
he's won two games. So so so

702
00:44:14.679 --> 00:44:16.800
where was I gonna go with this? So what's the sample size allowed for

703
00:44:17.039 --> 00:44:22.840
Tommy to say, Okay, he
can coach. Yeah, well, I

704
00:44:22.119 --> 00:44:25.719
think we already know that he can
coach. The question is how good of

705
00:44:25.760 --> 00:44:30.199
a coach is he gonna? Is
he gonna be great? Is he gonna

706
00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:34.599
be very good? Or is he
gonna be pretty good? Right? So

707
00:44:35.000 --> 00:44:38.400
that and that part, I think
right now you're leaning towards he's going to

708
00:44:38.440 --> 00:44:43.920
be great, right ultimately, sure, but you're holding back on that because

709
00:44:43.960 --> 00:44:47.280
you're waiting to see what. Let's
say he gets a final four this year.

710
00:44:47.559 --> 00:44:51.760
Okay, this year he's going a
final four? Is he great?

711
00:44:52.840 --> 00:44:57.079
Yeah? Well he's gonna be pretty
good because then Genhua, because the only

712
00:44:57.119 --> 00:45:00.639
other coach has gotten in Arizona final
four has been low But and guess what,

713
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:05.559
he couldn't win the big win,
the big one, right, there

714
00:45:05.599 --> 00:45:09.480
was something else. But you know
I've had I've had a person. I

715
00:45:09.679 --> 00:45:15.760
know this person will be they'll remain
nameless. But who's Who's told me?

716
00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:20.239
And he said a number of times
Ludelson was not a great coach because he

717
00:45:20.280 --> 00:45:22.920
only won one after well, I
was and he should have won a bunch

718
00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:25.039
more. I was gonna we had
this discussion because I think I bought a

719
00:45:25.039 --> 00:45:29.239
friend of mine about three months ago, pulled me aside when I was selling

720
00:45:29.239 --> 00:45:30.639
the book. He says, oh, good coach, YadA YadA, But

721
00:45:30.679 --> 00:45:35.320
my friends tell me he should have
won more. And I said, really,

722
00:45:35.880 --> 00:45:38.880
how do you figure at the same
time of his good teams. I

723
00:45:38.880 --> 00:45:44.159
think coach k had a few pretty
good teams. So Jay, just because

724
00:45:44.199 --> 00:45:46.599
you can beat me and golf nine
out of ten times, ten out of

725
00:45:46.679 --> 00:45:52.039
ten times, you guess what you're
not playing me, you're playing good golfers.

726
00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:55.000
I mean, come on, should
have he had good, good enough

727
00:45:55.039 --> 00:46:00.360
teams to play capable against those teams. But there's other teams. Well,

728
00:46:00.400 --> 00:46:01.800
I'll just say right now, anybody
who doesn't think Luke was a great coach

729
00:46:01.840 --> 00:46:05.760
and shut the hell out. Yeah, they don't know enough he had good

730
00:46:05.840 --> 00:46:08.519
teams. But at the same time, or you could have a fast car,

731
00:46:08.920 --> 00:46:13.320
but guess what other cars are pretty
fast by a bull driver. I

732
00:46:13.320 --> 00:46:15.039
mean, do you sit here and
think he had teams that could have or

733
00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:20.360
were worthy of winning the national championship? Of course we'll go to eighty eight,

734
00:46:20.440 --> 00:46:24.000
eighty eight, two thousand and one, ninety eight, ninety eight,

735
00:46:24.159 --> 00:46:28.440
eighty nine, eighty nine. So
you hit a four or five because what

736
00:46:28.920 --> 00:46:31.400
you run into stuff that happens better
team that day. I mean, I

737
00:46:31.400 --> 00:46:37.360
remember whenever they're watching watching watching them
lose to u n LV in eighty nine

738
00:46:37.400 --> 00:46:42.519
eighty sweet sixteen, and thinking where
did this UNLV team come from? We

739
00:46:42.559 --> 00:46:45.360
didn't. We hadn't seen that,
sure all year long, Utah utah ninety

740
00:46:45.400 --> 00:46:50.159
eight. Come on, you think
that's gonna happen. And stuff happens.

741
00:46:50.400 --> 00:46:52.800
Stuff happens. You plan a trip
to go to Disneyland, there's a crash

742
00:46:52.840 --> 00:46:57.800
on the road or a rain for
something happens, right, something happens.

743
00:46:57.920 --> 00:46:59.960
No, I hear that all the
time too, It says, don't you

744
00:47:00.199 --> 00:47:04.159
think other teams are pretty good too? It's like it's like last year when

745
00:47:04.159 --> 00:47:07.039
Florida Atlantic showed up in the Final
four, You're thinking, what happened here?

746
00:47:07.559 --> 00:47:12.559
You weren't paying attention. It's like
your the analogy we used yesterday with

747
00:47:12.599 --> 00:47:15.639
Pennix, what happened here? Well, you weren't paying attention. Were all

748
00:47:15.639 --> 00:47:19.119
of a sudden this is a good
team. Well where were you? Well,

749
00:47:19.159 --> 00:47:22.280
I didn't watch much college football.
Shut the hell up there, exactly.

750
00:47:23.239 --> 00:47:27.599
Yeah, No, I hear your
friend is a lot like my friends.

751
00:47:27.639 --> 00:47:30.199
You should have wanted more. Well, it doesn't work out, but

752
00:47:30.239 --> 00:47:34.559
that and that doesn't make him not
great. Exactly right, No, exactly.

753
00:47:34.880 --> 00:47:37.679
I mean, yeah, every coach
at Arizona that's won a national championship

754
00:47:37.679 --> 00:47:43.320
and whatever sport should be considered a
great coach. Sure you know every single

755
00:47:43.320 --> 00:47:45.159
one. Well, let me tell
you. I'll give you a good example

756
00:47:45.599 --> 00:47:49.320
Kendrea's later years. Yeah, people
are saying, what the hell is he

757
00:47:49.360 --> 00:47:52.119
passed his prime blah blah blah,
and then he gets him to the finally

758
00:47:52.159 --> 00:47:54.159
he gets him back there in his
follow year. I don't blame him.

759
00:47:54.159 --> 00:47:57.559
Are you know what? Here's this
finger? You like this finger? You

760
00:47:57.599 --> 00:48:05.400
can take this finger. I'm gone. Honestly, his finger was that I'm

761
00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:08.519
glad this is but you don't want
I want to. You're gonna tell me

762
00:48:09.079 --> 00:48:14.400
I want a few championships. You
don't like it, pull my finger,

763
00:48:15.239 --> 00:48:22.639
take it home with you too.
I'm not gonna pull. But you don't

764
00:48:22.800 --> 00:48:24.239
have a line. There's a line
in the sand, and I'm not good.

765
00:48:24.599 --> 00:48:29.679
I might know exactly what you're saying, because you know again, and

766
00:48:29.719 --> 00:48:34.440
it gets back to the how hard
is it to win a championship in any

767
00:48:34.440 --> 00:48:37.800
sport? Sure, in any sport. It's like you talk you talk to

768
00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:42.000
Laura Ianello. You know who's won
a national championship in golf. She should

769
00:48:42.000 --> 00:48:45.800
go down as one of the great
coaches at Arizona because she won a national

770
00:48:45.880 --> 00:48:50.719
champion softball. You got a lot
of Frank Bush. Frank Bush, well

771
00:48:50.760 --> 00:48:52.719
he does. I mean people know
he was a great sure coach, but

772
00:48:52.760 --> 00:48:57.760
you know, we should ask him
how difficult this was. David Rubyo a

773
00:48:57.800 --> 00:49:00.639
great coach, very good, consistary, good, consistently, lasted a long

774
00:49:00.679 --> 00:49:06.800
time, was competitive every year.
But was he great? I don't know,

775
00:49:06.880 --> 00:49:09.079
no. I think even he would
say that he wasn't. But he

776
00:49:09.239 --> 00:49:14.639
was just about just about there?
Remember who you remember? Where we're at

777
00:49:14.679 --> 00:49:19.719
here, we're two a results is
the Dea Barnes a great coach. We

778
00:49:19.800 --> 00:49:22.880
not know yet the jury is still
out right, but she had a hell

779
00:49:22.880 --> 00:49:27.159
of a star. We had a
nice run there in that one season and

780
00:49:27.159 --> 00:49:30.119
and you know, and that's kind
of created this expectation of her teams.

781
00:49:30.159 --> 00:49:34.199
The worst thing that we're going to
find out about that this weekend as well.

782
00:49:34.239 --> 00:49:37.519
They've got Colorado and you're talking in
both highly ranked. The worst thing

783
00:49:37.519 --> 00:49:40.280
to happen says you win early.
Guess what people think you could do it

784
00:49:40.320 --> 00:49:44.960
all? That's where you should be
every year. Absolutely, it doesn't work

785
00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:46.960
that way. It doesn't, it
doesn't. I mean, we have a

786
00:49:46.960 --> 00:49:52.559
great show. We should have a
great show. Every year. That blows

787
00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:57.320
right away. That's to the point
though, right to the point. Nice

788
00:49:57.360 --> 00:50:00.679
of all the time, we do
the show five days a week. We're

789
00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:04.760
not on vacation times fifties to two
hundred and fifty times. If we're lucky

790
00:50:04.760 --> 00:50:07.679
to survive two hundred good shows,
we're doing okay, that pretty good.

791
00:50:08.159 --> 00:50:13.639
We're better than most. But it's
not easy. I think people the general

792
00:50:13.719 --> 00:50:17.840
fan doesn't understand that, especially playing
on the road too. There's a reason

793
00:50:17.880 --> 00:50:21.000
why they call it home court of
that again. And you know, you

794
00:50:21.039 --> 00:50:22.519
look at you look at Maple's pavilion. You saw it. There weren't a

795
00:50:22.559 --> 00:50:25.519
lot of people, the students aren't, weren't in town, so it certainly

796
00:50:25.519 --> 00:50:29.679
shouldn't have been an intimidating atmosphere.
But still you're on the road, and

797
00:50:29.760 --> 00:50:31.199
you know they were on the road
a lot in December. You know,

798
00:50:31.440 --> 00:50:35.800
yeah, you know, I hate
it. I hate that kind of travel.

799
00:50:35.880 --> 00:50:37.960
And you know, and when you're
eighteen, nineteen, twenty years old

800
00:50:38.159 --> 00:50:40.440
and you're not sleeping in your bed, and I'm not making an excuse,

801
00:50:40.519 --> 00:50:46.000
I'm saying it's harder than playing those
guys and Arizona typically, at least for

802
00:50:46.119 --> 00:50:50.960
my history, if they're in half
filled. Arena's twenty five percent. It's

803
00:50:50.960 --> 00:50:54.119
like the first round of the NCAA
tournament on that morning over Thursday. They

804
00:50:54.159 --> 00:50:59.320
don't play well. It's they need
the bright lights, they need the whatever,

805
00:50:59.320 --> 00:51:01.559
they need the big well and that'll
be important tonight. As Reggie said,

806
00:51:01.599 --> 00:51:04.679
they've got it. They've got to
come out with a lot of energy.

807
00:51:05.440 --> 00:51:07.079
They got to come out. You
know, you can't be behind,

808
00:51:07.159 --> 00:51:10.400
you know, ten to two after
the first few minutes. Uh, I

809
00:51:10.400 --> 00:51:15.559
think one the fans are gonna get
nervous. That will change the atmosphere in

810
00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:17.800
the arena. And you got to
think that, you know what's going on

811
00:51:17.880 --> 00:51:21.440
in their heads if they if Colorado
comes out and punches them in the face

812
00:51:21.519 --> 00:51:23.840
right out of the box. In
fact, you should start saving some of

813
00:51:23.880 --> 00:51:28.239
those Twitter because you're on Twitter,
I'm on Facebook. I'm gonna start saving

814
00:51:28.280 --> 00:51:31.840
some of the responses here in January
and then eventually bring them back in March.

815
00:51:32.000 --> 00:51:37.559
Yeah, and you know and see
if they still exist, yeah,

816
00:51:37.719 --> 00:51:40.880
or what they're saying here to there, if it's still relevant, or if

817
00:51:42.079 --> 00:51:45.840
a bad right ages bad is the
right phrase, yeah, because a lot

818
00:51:45.840 --> 00:51:51.079
of those things do. But you
know it's uh, and I've said this

819
00:51:51.119 --> 00:51:53.039
before. I've said this a number
of times on the show. We're living

820
00:51:53.079 --> 00:51:57.599
a time when everyone can figure out
everybody else's problems but can't figure out their

821
00:51:57.639 --> 00:52:00.920
own. That that is it's true
too, that is for sure. I

822
00:52:00.920 --> 00:52:02.960
mean, yeah, you know you
want to go figure out your problems like

823
00:52:04.000 --> 00:52:06.599
coming yell at me about money.
You want me to cut my grass?

824
00:52:06.760 --> 00:52:08.480
What about the weeds over there on
your side? Man, I got a

825
00:52:08.519 --> 00:52:14.519
twin of lead for break in my
backyard. All the leads Asters Association doesn't

826
00:52:14.559 --> 00:52:16.480
bother you, any of my grandson
to grow a fast. Get over to

827
00:52:16.480 --> 00:52:20.559
start raking. All right, we'll
be back. We'll be back here at

828
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the top of the hour with the
breaking news a stick around

