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baby, what's up, Shane? How's it going, brother? Good Man?
A man, I'm rocking my my Shane shirt. Only wear this shirt
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Relations Congratulations, happ before you man, well done, thank you.
It's been a ride and it kind of happened unexpectedly. But yeah, man,
we have a lot to talk about your this evening. I've been diving
deep into these cults, dude, these UFO cults, man, and it's
amazing when you go back and do the research on these cults, you realize
where a lot of what people have been talking about and what we've heard people
talk about in the community has just been regurgitated from previous people in UFFO cults.
Either regurgitator, it just so happens to be exactly the same story.
Right. Give people the benefit of the doubt that they came up with the
idea on their own, but you know, the problem. And you know
this has been going on for a very long time that there's dates to this
stuff, right, Like it's all always attached to predictions. It's always attached
to you know, events in the world. And one thing that I said
a long time ago now was that you know, if any of it were
true, the ability to hide that is long gone. Right, Like with
the accessed information we have, everyone having a phone in their pocket, all
the satellites, all the inter connectivity, it just wouldn't be able to continue
the way that everyone said it would. And yeah, I said that like
twenty seventeen kind of threw up the challenge that if you know, we don't
have aliens land by twenty and eighteen, I think people need to kind of
rewrite their history here, but rewrite their story. And yeah, you just
see that same thing going on. And even if it doesn't happen with UFOs,
there's some big catastrophe coming, you can be on the safe side,
you can be the special group, and all you need to do is nothing.
Yeah, all these guys are profits, dude, They're they're all profits.
They're all better than everyone else. And you got to be a leader
to run this cult and you've got to have all these predictions, like Dorothy
Martin here from the Seekers UFO cult, which is one of the supposedly one
of the very first UFO cults in the United States in nineteen fifty three,
and she and doctor Loghead here predicted the end of the world in nineteen fifty
four, and she was one of the first people to contact one of these
Guardian races. Right, this is one of the first mention of the Guardian
Races. And how many people do we here that's been talking about the Guardian
Races, Protectors of the Earth, the Intergalactic Council, and I mean Oceana
Deane comes to my mind right off the top of the bat. She's one
of the biggest perpetuators of the Guardian Races. I mean, she wrote several
books about these Guardian Races. And then I'm researching the heavens Gate colt which
in nineteen seventy four, which is going to be my next video in this
cult series, which there's a lot to get into with the heavens Gate Call.
But they were hanging out flyers in the early seventies and seventy four talking
about that the ship was going to come and pick them up. And the
people that were to go on the ship was called the Voyagers. And that's
the name of Oceanadine's book in ninety nine, It's called the Voyagers. Yeah,
you know, the alien invasion has happened, and it's just as happened
in everyone's secret space, right, meaning their brains, happened in the minds
of people. A long term kind of agenda and a play on something that's
real, like history keeps rolling back, and there's some other researchers talked about
this, Michael Dessia and Mike pat Mark Passio. They called it cosmic abandonment.
At some time in our history, we probably did have some type of
interaction with let's call them advanced beings, let's call them ets. For the
sake of this and that abandonment issue that we have for no longer having access,
for no longer having that communication kind of rolls around in people's psyche.
And so that's been played with right through the X Files and Star Trek and
a variety of other things to basically create a new religion, right, and
a whole bunch of new cults, which is what you've been discovering as you
tie it back, you end up finding out that, Yeah, it's the
same snowball effect where someone lays down a layer of snow and it turns out
to be a cult, but nobody really cares. Someone else just drops another
ball on there, and they roll around in that snow until they've got a
bigger snowball, collecting everything from that cult and then making their own cult.
Oh low and behold, this one turned out to be a cult too,
and so on and so on and so on. It's the same thing with
speakers in the community, as I've detailed before. Um, we've talked about
that, right, the snowballs and the conspiracy burritos. But this has been
going on a very long time. It's been going on longer than the Internet.
Shane, that's my ip. You can't say conspiracy brito, so I
said, we talked about it because I've always called it that snowball right where
it's snowballing, you called it burrito. It's both right, snowball of ingredients,
and then they made a burrito out of it, and that's that is
exactly what has happened. And we've talked about it before. How no one
ever goes back to correct the inconsistencies and the contradictions and the fact that a
lot of this did come out of cults, right, So well, no
one can remember, Shane, Like, it seems like that they only remember
specific material and they have absolutely no idea where the source comes from. It's
like we have very short term memory loss. Like we take in a bunch
of information, it's like information overload, Right, We'll listen to a bunch
of things back to back to back to back, and then we only remember
certain bits of that information, but we don't remember where that information came from.
And I think that's a really big problem and how a lot of these
things gets constantly perpetuated in regurgitated in our community. But something that really shocked
me was researching this Seekers cult. Was this guy Leon Fetzinger, right,
And he was a psychology just to infiltrated into the Seekers cult with the goal
of studying them when they're and their coping mechanisms, right when their beliefs in
their predictions failed. Because obviously the Seekers cult prediction of December twenty first,
nineteen fifty four that the world was going to end and they were going to
be taken up in these UFO spaceships to save them from impending doom of the
United States didn't happen. He well, he coined this term that everyone is
very familiar with in this community that people often use quite frequently, which is
called cognitive dissonance. This guy right here, Leon Fassenger, created the term
cognitive dissonance while studying this UFO call, which I think is very ironic right
now, because most of the people that's calling cognitive dissonance on people are the
same ones that the term was actually used for. Yep, that's It's true
with a lot of terms and names that people have confused for things. And
I mean obviously with one of the topics, even clones. That's like an
overused word that people lump a bunch of different different types of genetic manipulations under
right, And yeah, that snowball effect is the problem because if we don't
correct those contradictions, the next layer becomes like poisonous. Right, we've actually
built it out of It's like GMO. Right, We've basically gmo together a
theory that if we actually did investigate, we would find out it came from
somewhere, and usually that somewhere is exactly the same people were allegedly fighting against.
Right. Yeah, it's unbelievable. I'm really enjoying doing this series.
In my last one was on Railianism, and this guy called ral right,
and this guy right here claimed that a UFO ship landed in Paris and these
beings came out and they were called Eloheim, and they claimed to genetically engineer
humanity, and they claimed to be mistaken for gods, and they told them,
well told this guy right here, Rayel, that they were going to
be landing in twenty thirty five, right, and that him and his group
of followers were to build an embassy for him and a landing pad. Right.
And if they didn't build this embassy for the Eloheim to land, there
are gigantic spacecraft in twenty twenty three, then they weren't coming, rightl Specifically,
you had to build this landing pad, as a group of followers specifically
had to build a landing pad for the Eloheim to land, to come and
share their amazing technology with humanity. And if they didn't, then that they
were just deciding not to do that. But the thing that I found most
interesting about this cult, which I had heard this rapper kid boo, I'm
sure. You probably have heard of him. I heard of him like two
or three years ago because he was claiming to be a clone right, and
he was supposedly, you know, cloned by this Canadian company and I think
it was in Quebec, I believe, and it was called Clone Aid.
And I kind of just you know, brush that off. I'm like whatever,
it's just like a marketing employee or whatever. But it turns out that
this guy l that runs this UFO Realien cult, this sex cult. I
forgot to mention. He loves like women, and apparently Theloheim him and got
him a second time. It took him to this planet to where he can
have sex with human cyborg robot hot chicks, hot Loheim chicks that he had
all those. You could do whatever you wanted with him. But he founded
this company in Canada called Clone Aid. It's a real company. And before
I go any farther, have you do you know anything? You're from?
You live in Canada? Do you know anything about this Clone Aid company?
Yep, we also had I guess it was a university in a hospital close
to it. M busted for MKL trick experimentation as well. Doctor you and
Cameron and his son and a couple of protegees thereof U around the same time.
That was what nineties, right, early nineties, Yeah, because they
basically just transferred all the American IMCA culture programs directly to Canada after they all
shut down an eighty five. Yeah, and uh so, you know,
we think of cloning as you know, we're going to make another version of
like Rider today, right, Like we're just gonna take Rider and tomorrow we're
gonna have another Rider like that. That's a type of cloning. But the
cloning he's talking about is really just taking genetics. It's basically Cris Burke,
right, It's a test tube, babe, is what I've always called it.
And technically that's cloning, right, which is the type of cloning they
were doing where they were taking um pre existing DNA and they were reanimating it
basically producings all the proper parts, let's put it that way, to to
make a fetus with predetermined genetics. And yeah, I tried actually to see
if I could talk more about this, but I know someone who also seems
to have come from clonaid and I've heard in various senses that you know,
they're kind of they are kind of spread out that they did do a pretty
good run of you know, test two babies basically and adopted them out to
people. A lot of them were very rich people, some celebrities, things
of that nature. And then from my background, I've kind of always known
about that where a lot of you know, what we think of as krew
crisper as coming or new is something that they've had for a while, and
a lot of elites, if you will, or people in the in the
proper cults, have been able to use that technology. Yeah, it's interesting.
I wanted to look more into this because but I haven't had a lot
of time. I've had a lot of things going on with the release of
my documentary and promotion and all that. But apparently this royal guy went in
front of Bill Clinton and spoke about spoke about cloning, and I thought that
that was really interesting how Bill Clinton they were talking about the ethicacy and the
morality of human cloning in the late nineties to early two thousands, And then
I'm thinking, well, if they're talking about the ethicacy and the morality of
human cloning, why would they be talking about that if they couldn't actually clone
somebody or if they haven't done it before, right, trying to find the
picture of Bill Clinton talking about Vegas. So much stuff over here, well
as with anything we find out about it long after they've already been doing it.
Right. Something you may find interesting because we've had conversations in the vein
already was like the CIA and the various experimentations that they've done that have been
classified and declassified over the years. They've now released what they call i ARPA,
which is basically their own DARPA, like a CIA version of DARPA,
where they are now experimenting with all of these same things out in the open.
So it turns out they were actually continuously doing this in private, obviously
because they're now doing it in public. Yeah, people tend to forget about
DARPA for some reason. They want to concentrate on the CIA. It seems
like the CIA takes the fall for what a lot of other organizations are doing.
Well that example, doesn't they've both been doing it right that because that's
been you know, some people have always said that it's not the CIA who
does that stuff, it's DARPA. Here it is found it Bill clin So
the Presidential Directive on human cloning. Yeah, I think it came up again
and the Brock did it not. I don't know if you've got there,
but I'm pretty sure the idea of cloning came back up around Brock. Wasn't
that like the Dolly the Sheep? Well, the Dolly the Sheep was what
got Royale and interested in actually doing human cloning. First. First off,
he claimed that that's how the Eloheim extraterrestrials achieved immortality is that they clone themselves.
Here's Dolly the Sheep and the gentleman that created the first sheep clone.
But um, he first claimed that that's how he got the idea for cloning
is because the meeting with these Eloheim extraterrestrials that told him that the way that
they achieve immortality is cloning themselves. And then not he didn't directly say this,
but I'm guessing this. The only way that it can be done is
cloning yourself and then some kind of consciousness transfer technology into that clone. That
would be the only way that you would be able to live in a physical
body for long periods of time. You just keep making more clones and then
transferring your consciousness into it. But that's how he got the idea to start
this company was from this gentleman. I can't remember his name. I'd have
to look it up. I got so much stuff going around in my head
right now. But the first actual real clone of an animal, which was
Dolly the Sheep, and then he started a company that later turned into cloning.
And then he claims to have cloned the very first clone, which he
named Eve, and it was a baby clone. And then later on they
claimed that they just like you said, that they kind of spread people out
all over the world, and they claim that they clone several hundreds of people
and that they're living everywhere in Australia, the UK, Israel, and all
these places across the world. And I thought that, like that's really interesting.
See, these cults have like a lot of nonsense, and then they
have like a couple of pretty interesting things that I think are pretty legitimate,
especially researching the Heaven's Gate called I'm doing, like it's taking me like two
weeks to get everything on this cult because there's so much going on and there's
so many contradictions of I think, different reports of different things happening, and
it's very difficult to actually track down exactly what happened. But a lot of
the things that Dough was talking about Goantee in that Heaven's Gate call are pretty
good qualities till I have, right. But then it's just mixed in with
a bunch of nonsense, like they claimed that they were the reincarnation of Jesus,
and then all of their followers were all of their disciples, even though
there was more followers than that they had than what Jesus had, which doesn't
make any sense. You know, it's just like a bunch of why I
could do nonsense mixed in with a few really interesting concepts that I really think
we're ahead of their time. Yeah, that's how most cults work, right,
It's really really good storytelling based on something that that group kind of all
resonates with as to use that kind of terminology. And yeah, even if
you think of like the Manson family, right, and how like that's a
cult that got used for something else. Right, all these UFOs, all
of these different cults end up getting used for there's what they're almost affront for
something else shady that's going on, like the example with realism and clone aid,
right, So almost like while everyone's focusing over here. Like I can
kind of remember at the time, nobody was taking it seriously because they're whacky
do cult cultists, right, they're not really cloning people. It's just it's
as made up as their their their phrase. But that gets them away with
doing it, right, and then we catch up to the fact that they
did it after the fact when we shut it down, and so they just
did it other places, right, because it was really only the United States
that came up with laws saying that it couldn't be done. That doesn't say
that it can't be done in China, it doesn't say that it can't be
done in Russia. Right, So, yeah, the clonia aspect of the
whole thing is is really interesting. And I remember the show that I did
on your channel and you were like, because I was really heavy studying into
them culture and the Stargate program at that time, and you're like, the
next step for you to get into is cloning. And I remember that and
I was like, I'm not gonna I think that's a little too far like
out there for me. Then, what do you know, I'm researching this
cult in this cult leader as the founder of a cloning company. Yeah,
you know, tackling immortality at the genetic level has been a goal of like
the big cults, the real cults for a long time, right, And
any experimentation that they ever get to get away with to do that they have.
And that was like a public test see how people would react, See
what hap happened. Also, see what happens once you start releasing these people
into the public and they have to go try and live normal lives. I
don't know about that Rapper, the one person I was talking about. It's
there's a part of themselves that they feel like they're missing, right, because
if you think of like the concept of like do they have a soul or
don't they if they're a clone? Right, if they're you know, a
test too baby. Also the mental or the mind warp of understanding that your
genetics didn't come from like your mom and dad like everyone else, that they
literally just took someone's and recreated it and that's now you but knowing you're not
them. Right in this person's case, the person they were taken from is
no longer alive. So in a way, it's like, am I them
right? Like did they just like the idea that we're talking about about prolonging
their life, but there's like an intermediate every step of recording what's in here
and being able to pass that over. Right. There's a movie with Kenny
Reeves called Replicas, I think, right. So another like conspiracy thing is
like the Black Guy Club. If you ever bumped into that with all these
people with the black eyes, all these elites, and that was going around
in every couple of years, did you notice how that technology went in through
the eye in order to record what was you know, in his mind,
his memory and everything, and then trans he used that when he made the
clothes in the vat to move his wife's consciousness over basically, right, And
so it's not the same person. It's not like you're taking the soul of
that person and moving them over. You're really just taking like a xerox of
everything they are as just a organic technology, like just what the brain and
how the brain functions, and moving that over maybe with memory, right,
which would inform behavior. But it's not the same person, right, So
it's you know, it's not like a linear carrying on at the same lifetime.
It becomes a different person. So, yeah, one of the things
that we started with would have been actually like inducing self inducing an obe and
moving your soul over into another body, being able to sync down into that
body and drive it like a car. But that's not a permanent fix either,
because a part of your soul is attached to your living body, so
you could really only do it that way. So the next step was to
try and facilitate that whole jump with technology, right, which is like in
the Replicant or the Replica's movie version of it, of being able to make
a recording and transfer it over. But at the end of the day,
that's not the same person, right, It's just a copy of that person.
There's a video game series called Mass Effect where they make the differentiation between
AI and v I. AI being an artificial intelligence that is its own kind
of conscious being, and then a virtue of VII being a virtual intelligence,
which is really just a very limited copy of someone else's intelligence. So is
it Alan water on lots. But they have that thing now where there's a
chat bot you can go on and talk to. It's facilitated by AI,
and they just ran everything he ever wrote and said into it and now you
can have a chatbot conversation with it. It's supposed to be like talking to
that. That's the same idea. That's a virtual intelligence version of that character,
right, So that's what they do with the technology even today. But
yeah, I'm glad that you looked into it because it's it's quite the rabbit
hole, and it's definitely a massive victim to the conspiracy of Burrito because every
group of the alternative community has latched onto that and pulled it into their own
little lower world and made it work right exactly Like with Donald Marshall talking about
the reptilian cloning programs and that they go in through your eye, what does
he say That their mouth opens up or something and it goes in through the
eye and then it creates that's how they get their consciousness out of you or
take over your body, or that's how the reptilians possess you, or something
like that. I camera, I haven't listened to any of his stuff in
a really long time, but I think that it was something around that concept
and that idea. What she's giving a little bit of the truth. According
to what you're saying, they do go through the lie and all that,
but it just has nothing to do with reptilians and extra restaurants. That's the
alien invasion, right, is making it not about humans and not about humans
using technology and experimentation in ways that they shouldn't have. But blame it all
on in that particular thing, the vrille or the draco or ai or something
other than a human being, right, and something other than these programs and
projects and call that. You know, Yes they run in secret, but
they run in the public now, right, it's not it's not, it's
not. It doesn't require dums anymore. They've got they've got a lot of
dumbs in the public to play with. So we talked about clones, and
that is positive that it's more of like a crisper technology, and how it's
a copy of the person, it's not the exact same person. Now,
does this in any way involve any kind of like cybernetics, it's just like
a combination of a cyborg clone or is this like an organic type of clone?
And how are they grown? Are they grown? Is a crisper technology
put inside of a a host or something where they just grown outside of the
womb artificial wombs like kind of like like I said, they're they've made them
public now that's what they've been using, like I said, privately, for
a long time. Um, you know, we can grow goats and bags
these days, so um, you know we we've kind of crossed that threshold
in the public already, so it's not even really a secret. And so
yeah, I guess there's differentiations you could make between kind of like what they
show you in that in that movie with Keanu Reeves where they grow like a
full grown human, right as opposed to starting with and you know, a
fetus and an infant and a toddler and a teenager and so on and so
on. Right, Um, both could be considered a clone. But most
of the time when people are thinking of clones, they're thinking of like taking
affecsimbily of like me as I am right now, and growing another one of
those. So there's two of me, right, And that technology being used
to do things like grow new organs and things like that is not outside of
the realm of possibility either, right. So to say to think that the
elites haven't done that, I mean, how many heart attacks did as has
George Soros had, you know, So it might not be that he's jumping
into a new body every time but it might very well be that he has
other bodies out there that they can harvest for spare parts. But we've come
further even beyond that, because now we can do individual organs in a lab
right, so they wouldn't even have to grow a full clone to facilitate that.
They could literally just clone someone's direct heart and now they've got a new
heart or a direct liver, and now they've got a new liver. But
like I said, all of this gets pulled into it. And you know,
Donald Marshall is a great example because, like I can remember the first
time I ever heard him speak, I kind of went, okay, right,
like, yep, that's I've seen the majority of this too. They're
growing live humans to use them as entertainment. Yeah, I've I've seen that.
And then you know, of course it kind of takes a turn where
it becomes kind of all about him right in his particular thing, But all
the elements are there, Like you know, I knew when he was talking
about them putting a lizard in someone's eye that that was just his perception of
that particular you know technology, But I forget what they call it. It's
like a neuro replicant technology where they're basically just taking a reading of everything going
on in your brain and then moving that over into book computer, transferring it
to the clone and and there. Yeah, it's the unfortunate reality that it
kind of all gets twisted up into a kind of fantastical story or a or
a ego driven fantastical story, like with any cult, right, Like he's
always got to have the cult leader and he, um, you know,
ends up having a a special role in it all. And and then he
ends up banging all the women in the group and you know, um that
that tail all as time. It's uh, you know, it seems to
be that you gotta be a musician, right, you gotta you gotta play
music, right, which I was a musician, You were a musician.
Right, we're already we're already one stuff. We're already one stuff there,
brother, we're musicians. Now we need to Wilcock talking about the women and
how it was just like being a rock star and groupies. That's what he
was calling the women at the conferences was groupies. It's like they have the
same energy as groupies for rock stars. So yeah, it's it's really interesting
because it does seem like that. A lot of these cults, at least
the ones that I've covered so far, they start out as wanting to give
all of the it's not solely just directed around then, right, like this
Royalian cult didn't start out all about Royal here. It started out as a
mission for the Eloheim to give the Eloheim's message to everyone, until people got
tired of his nonsense and then started to like break away, and then he
had to disband his original group, which was something ridiculously called like the Arrival
of the Eloheim Saviors of Humanity. Yeah, and then yeah, exactly,
he just rebranded the whole thing, changed it, and he made it about
himself. He turned it into the Realien Movement or the something call it the
Realien Church. And that's when with him at the top, him him as
the leader and only him, no one can question him. They all have
to do what he says. And then he decided to create this group of
the secret group that the Eloheam extraterrestrials supposedly told him to create, of all
women, all women group, and he told them that they were super special
and that they were to be trained to be consorts of the Elohem whenever they
land in twenty thirty five. Right, there's that you're so special and that's
why we need you clok again, Right, And that's that's true with everything
that was true with MK Ultra, Right, that was true, that's true
with any cult. It's true with grooming, right, like when a perfect
person's doing that for for a job or for anything else. Um, you
know, it's it's that comes along with it. It's part of why people
tolerate the abuse and overlook the nonsense on the other end. And I think
also the need and the like I've talked about several times before and I've mentioned
it with you, that that need and that want to believe in something outside
of yourself that you don't believe that you have the access to. So I
think that's a big reason why a lot of these leaders, and a lot
of these cult leaders you know, become something is because they're proclaiming to have
information that other people don't, and those other people want that information, so
therefore they're going to buy their bullcrap hook line and sinker. And the crux
of it comes you have to get the information through them, right. It's
not like they're inviting you into the cult and then elevating you to the same
level that they're as so that you can go direct to source. Either it's
always I'm the ambassador or I'm the you know whatever. I use that one
on purpose to make you laugh. I am the middleman between them. Right,
It's the same game the church used to play with priests, right back
when priests were the rock stars and had all the groupies and started their own
little cults. Right. Cults have been happening forever on planet Earth. That's
why we know them so well in psychology. And it's to think that any
community would be immune to a cult forming within it is wrong, right,
It's incorrect, and you know, unfortunately they all do follow this path where
it doesn't start as a cult. It starts as just some people sharing information,
maybe getting together at a library, but then that one person ends up
getting kind of elevated as the arbitra of it all and it goes on from
there. And you know, I have used the word groupies because you know,
being in bands that you can see there's like this blind they don't care
who you actually are. You're that guy, right, and that's it.
And so you can literally like r Kelly them and get away with the Obviously
I've never done that, neither would have you. But that's an extreme example.
But that's how far that goes. And that is cult like right,
like that is that they even call it that like a cult like following right,
and yeah, this is nothing new. It's part of our nature.
It's part of it's like the inverse of our tribalism and our you know,
desire to form groups and partnerships and relationships. It's just the perverted end of
it, and it's unfortunate that so many people take advantage of it. Yes,
this dude, George King from the Theorist Society cult, speaking of being
Earth's galactic ambassador. He received psychic communication saying that he was to be the
the intergalactic planetary ambassador right back in nineteen fifty four. All right, so
we we get where that thought in that idea of excuse me it was.
It was in our planetary parliament, not Earth's galactic ambassador. But it's very
similar, right, earth planetary parliament. He was supposed to be the leader
of Earth's planetary parliament, which is very similar to what we hear people talk
about today as being Earth's galactic ambassador, the Ambassador of the Galactic Federation of
Light, and the Ambassador of Ashtar, and the the Aucturian Ambassador and the
Palladian ambassador. It's just a regurgitation from an old thought form and an old
idea. Yeah, and you know, science fiction got pushed at the time
that it did because we needed a new religion, right we had you know,
kind of effectively killed God. And this has served its purpose. And
you know, it's a long term plan. That's why I said, like
referred to it as the alien invasion that has already happened. It's a long
term plan because it all, you know, pushes us into this place where
we are ready for a one world religion. And you know, to wrap
that around ETS would be super easy at this point because we already have that
primed within this community, right, we already have people thinking that they are
the star seas here on a mission to do that job, right, and
it's the lore has already been created. So yeah, it's the next generation
is going to have it in the genetics, and it's going to be really
easy to pull off, which is really interesting because a lot of these are
early cults literally popped up at the exact same time that the mk ulture programs
were taking place by the CIA. Yeah, right, and that's not just
a coincidence. Come on, no, No, I'm like, I'm kind
of adding a new layer to it because when I used to start saying the
secret space program, people used to get upset. Now I'm salk saying the
same thing. The alien invasion has already happened, and it is the same
kind of concept. And that's not to say there's no truth to extraterrestrial life
in the universe. That's not what I'm saying. But you know, listen
to their language. Even Paul Hellier said that the governments were aware of,
not in contact with, but aware of. Right, it's a very small
number even of extraterrestrials. So this idea that they're you know, terraforming the
planet and running the government and all of this other stuff, you know,
it's been it's and disproven at this point. You know, insofar as that
you know the person making the claim is the one with the honest or the
burden of proof, and you know you've had more than enough time to present
something right and there's literally nothing. So it's it's time to move on from
that idea, but it's already worked and yeah, it came along to replace
that whole that religion occupied or forever. Yeah, it's uh, if the
if the universe. I've said this several times and people are every chance that
I get because it's common sense in critical thinking, right that if the universe
is so populated with extraterrestrial life, if they're actually everywhere out in the universe,
where are they? Why can't we see them? Why is no one
ever met one physically? All right? Why haven't they shown up? You
would think if it's that populated, you would be able to take a telescope,
because a telescope or even binoculars can see millions of miles into the in
the space right or outer space. Right can't see within it can see without?
Where are they? It doesn't make any sense. And we can only
keep up this trade for I don't know how long we can keep keeping it
up. I guess forever until they roll out some genetically engineered, backward engineered
being that they created here and then pass them off as an extraterrestrial from off
the planet. Well yeah, I mean, like none of the toys that
they have, they're not going to use right, or they're not going to
not use That's what I mean to say, we're at war right now.
I mean, if they if they had a lot of the toys that we
seem to think that they have, I don't think the world would be playing
out the way that it is, right. So, yeah, there's truth
in all of it. And it's what I've been saying all along, is
that people over and underestimated all at the same time. The want to believe
has taken it into fantasy land on one side. The ignorance is bliss.
People on the other side have buried in the sand on the other side,
But there is truth in the middle of that, and I think that's what
conversations like this are trying to unpack is when we really do start looking at
the history of the stories that we tell, because stories are incredibly powerful.
Entire wars, the entire shape of the world has happened over storytelling. That's
what it has all been, right and right now we're active participants in the
new story for you know, the new mythology for the human race. And
I just want to I personally don't want to feed into a mythology that works
against the human race because I've seen enough of those. Yeah, it's a
it's a rebranded religion, just like how these cults operate. When one thing
isn't working out for them, they try and do a switcheroo, or they
hit them with a with the Oki do, or they just and inevitably they
always end up rebranding themselves and calling themselves something different and instilling a set of
rules, right, a set of guidelines, just like George van Tassel and
the Ashtar Command cult did. They just after all of their predictions. With
George van Tassel that apparently created a integration machine in order to have immortality and
time travel and anti gravitical craft that he got via psychic communication with Nikola Tesla
to show him how to build a machine. It wasn't free energy, y'all.
No, free free energy is too good for everybody? Do we need
to We need an integration machine that only I can use and my followers can
use, and that no one has ever seen before. But apparently it's real
that I downloaded the schematics from Nicola Tesla via psychic communication, right, And
what happened there was Van Tassel started getting super angry at other Ashtar Command channelers.
Oh wow. He started saying that other Ashtar Command channelers weren't real and
that they were basically LARPers. It sounds familiar, and that he was the
only one that can channel Ashtar because he was special. He's the only one
that had communication. So then the person that he was working with that was
basically promoting all of his material then broke away from him and then started his
own cult, just like what happens when people aren't accepted into the original cult
and they start some kind of backlash, they break away and start a new
calt. Just like with Realienism. The centers within Realianism did the exact same
thing. They started the new call and started seeing that that royal was infiltrated
by Satan and that he was working for the devil. All the ones where
it's like they get mad at one cult because they're so opposed to what the
cult saying that they started another cult that says the same thing exactly and then
demonized the other cult They came before them and say that they were infiltrated by
a bad group. Just like in this Ashtar Command cult. They did that
exact same thing. They said that all of the previous channel channelers of Ashtar
were wrong because they had been infiltrated by a breakaway evil Ashtar Command group and
that all of their channeling before this new Ashtar Command cult in the mid nineties
that were using the Internet to perpetuate their Ashtar Command made up stories. They
decided to invalidate everybody they came before them, even the creator of the Ashtar
Command George van Tassel. Here they discredited him as well and said that he
was infiltrated by a dark Ashtar Command group and they are the only And then
they instilled these these twelve rules and these twelve stipulations to have the Ashtar Command
group for their message to be validated. So you had to follow a strict
guideline set of rules to be able to channel. Oh shure, Yeah,
right, just like the levels in scientology or freemasonry. Right. It's um.
You know, I always like talk about like Toronto Maple Leafs fans,
and that's a cult. It's like they think that that's the greatest team on
planet Earth, even though they've literally not won in over fifty years, you
know what I mean. It's like, but they would still argue blindly that
it's the best hockey team there is and every other team sucks. Right,
it's it's and so it's what I'm picking on cults, like I like,
and when I'm talking about them being there being cults everywhere, I mean that,
like there are cults everywhere, right, So, um, yeah,
it's unfortunate that people think that this community is somehow immune to that, because
unfortunately this community has been founded on that. It really has. And Gigi,
she says that I feel my personal experiences, which started as a kid
or not something that I've imagined, that's all. And I agree with that.
But you also didn't try and create a whole mythology, at least I
don't think that you did. I don't think that you tried to start a
call and get all kinds of followers. I mean, people have experiences all
the time that I don't try and create a whole scenario in mythology surrounding their
experiences and get other people to believe in what they believed in. I believe
that what you probably experienced was probably real to you because you can only operate
off of the perception and knowledge and understanding that you have at that time.
Anything on that show. Oh not really. I don't know. I don't
know her experiences. I can't comment on that, but so I don't even
really know what she's saying other than yeah, it's not to overgeneralize here either.
I'm not when I say this, I'm not talking about every single person
who follows, you know, our beliefs or whatever it is. But unfortunately,
the foundation of a lot of it is right. And you know,
we have all sorts of ways of examining how if we don't have information,
we imagine it. Right, If we don't see an attacker's face, we
will create that create an attacker's face, and it's usually something that we've taken
from somewhere else. Right, So it's almost like, unless we've grown up
in the middle of the woods with absolutely no exposure to television or media or
books, and then we start having a bunch of alien contact experiences, then
there would be a question. But if that's already been frontloaded and we know
what technology can do, then you know it. What's the idea of first
principles alcin raiser, you know. And that's not to say that it's impossible
that the other could be true as well, But I think that proof is
in the result. And when something becomes a cult, then something's wrong.
Well, I mean this guy, this Realien guy, right royal from the
Realianism called he did he did the smart thing right, which a lot of
people are really starting to catch on too, Right, is that you don't
put the date for the end of the world so close to the future,
right. You don't put it next year or the year after that, or
in five years or three years or seven years. You put it way ahead,
right way ahead. So whenever by the time that that event rolls around,
one or two things happened, everyone that knew about it is dead already,
or the ones that didn't know about it don't care anymore, or they've
forgotten about it. Right, Which is something that a group recently has that
sprung up in the last year, has us has done, right, They've
they've taken the Realien route and made their doomsday event so far in the future
that by the time it rolls around, it's not going to matter anymore.
Oh yeah, either the people involved aren't around to notice that it didn't happen,
or like you, I would say myself, if I were going to
do it, I would say, you know, thirty years from now.
I'm definitely not going to be available on the internet, so I'll set I'll
set my date thirty years from now, you know what I mean that way,
Like, even when I'm wrong and it's proven that I'm wrong, there's
no fallout for me personal personally, I'm in a home. I'm good,
you know. Yeah, yeah, that would be the way to go if
you were going to do it, not like you know certain people that will
do it like every week, and then when that happens, they just oh,
at the last minute, we were stopped by the Dark Alliance. Alliance
sent in this whistleblower on YouTube and he told a video and that video meant
that it didn't happen, right, It's like wow, yeah, yeah,
that's what the seekers called did as well. They said that their explanation because
they said that that the ships were going to come and land in the summer
twenty first of nineteen fifty four, and then when that didn't happen, they
then rescheduled the event for Christmas Eve, and then after it didn't happen on
Christmas Eve of nineteen fifty four, they then said that they were such good
cult people. They did everything that the guardian races asked them to do,
and they avoided disaster and the United States no longer had to be destroy it
and that they called off their guardianship rescue missions. Yeah. I mean,
like I said, all through human history, it's just been about the bigger,
better story, right, and getting enough people to follow your story has
been what has caused wars. You know, um, money, the story
we all agree on, right, it's a it's uh, you know,
there's so many examples of this. Um. Yeah, I think it's just
time we stopped doing it to ourselves because it feels good, you know.
Um, I think it's time we clean up some of the mess that we've
done by falling into those rabbit holes and and and throwing up what we found
down there, and just overall kind of examine, you know, how much
our thought process is informed by the feedback machine of the echo chamber that we
stay in, right, Because that's what happens actually with the dow Age community.
As they you know, they'll stop talking to the NPCs, or they'll
stop talking to any type of authority, or they'll stop looking at anything outside
of their community. I almost said cult, but but that's how a cult
works right, and the leader will definitely incentivize you to not look outside of
what they're saying. Right, So doesn't that sound a lot like all of
this sure does to me? Yep, you can't question the leader, Shane.
You can't question the guy in the amazing Shan shirt, this amazing Hawaiian
shirt. Can't question you write arrangers are now a cult? Okay, Noble
Truth has a question for you. What would you say, Shane? What
would you tell a person who hasn't seen or heard anything related to a UFO
cult information, who possibly had dreams or hallucinations based on similar or related information
and he ends it was saying, I assume technology well, even though like
you know, they put this stuff in the media, doing this through the
MK ultra experiments, my lads experiments, even disguising those as alien encounters for
people that it's it's too they go together, right, Like the operation works
hand in hand. So you know, even if you haven't sat down and
watched Star Trek, you've passed by it and you've got some of the symbology
in your head that can be enhanced. As an example, I think that
at this point, like I've been saying for a while now that like this
is almost a broadcast frequency that everyone is hit getting hit with all of the
time. And you know, you take in information your your mind patterns that
into imagery, and you know that is the imagery that they want us to
pattern it into. Right, if it's if you were a devout Catholic,
that it would be coming up as you know, Jesus and Mother Mary and
and insert your biblical icon there. But if you are not, then it's
probably going to sound look like ancient astronaut theory and aliens. Yeah, that's
another thing about this Realien guy, this Realien call it guys, that he
was really down on his luck a lot. Right, He was a failed
musician, then he was a race car test driver, and then a law
past and in his country that no speeding on the highway, and then he
was out of that job. And then all of a sudden he gets contacted
by the old him extraterrestrial ships and they come and land and give him all
this information. When the ancient astronaut theory was beginning to be really popular in
the early seventies, right, there's many books that was written about it.
Eric van Dnikin had just written his book about the extraterrestrial intervention in any humanity
revolving around you know, the Pyramids of Giza and pyramids in Egypt and all
that. So it seems like he also copied some information to then cultivate his
ideas and his beliefs surrounding the cult that he wanted to form, just like
I'm finding out and I'm going to do a lot more research on and hopefully
the video will be out soon. It'll be live on the Heaven's Gate Cult
as well. In the early seventies, Bow and t they went around to
all of the New Age centers, met with all of the gurus in the
United States. And why would they do that, right, Well, the
only reason I could think of the reason that they would do that is to
try and cultivate their own bullets. So they're taking a little few ideas from
this group over here, a few ideas from this spiritual and religious New Wagage
movement over here, a few ideas from this guru over here, and then
they're conspiracy and burrito in it up, dude, and they're not munching down
on that conspiracy burrito, And they created their own cult. And that was
before the Internet and then once they had the Internet, we kind of you
know, we created the gatekeeper sites that did that for them, right,
and we ran an alternative network circuit just like the mainstream network circuit, and
to perpetuate that. So it's not disconnected from mk ultra either, right,
because a lot of these cult leaders have probably been picked up in prisons,
like Charles Manson and put through mk ultra and then released back into the public
in order to inspire others to do these things. Right. That's so even
probably with his case, you know, they call it dangling carrots, and
pretty much everyone has a carrot that they'll chase, and for some people that's
money, for some people, maybe it's sex. For some people it's drugs.
But you know, even with the reason I brought up the m k
Altra experiments is because we've you know, it was part of the patterning to
have the subject not know who was doing it to them, right, to
have them have a false memory of the perpetuator of the experiment, And we
know that they would do things like put alien masks on or just wear masks
in general, so that you would see a blank face. And what your
memory does if you see a blank face and you pull up a blank face,
you fill in that detail with whatever you've got. And you know,
given that circumstance, a lot of people the only story that they've ever heard
that sounds like that is alien abduction. Right, that makes a lot of
sense. And also the you're bringing up this memory recall and inserting things into
your memory that necessarily weren't there to begin with. And that's what this uh,
the Ashtar Command cult basically did, right. They said that, um,
it was this liftoff experience right where they they got together and they opened
up a portal to the Ashtar Command, right. And it was claimed that
in order to participate in this portal and go to the Ashtar Command, a
person's vibrational frequency had to be at a certain level to get onto the Ashtar
Command ship. Right. And they called this uh, this event the pioneer
voyage, right. And this would occur during a period of in a meditative
state in the perception of the person that's in the meditative state, right.
And then later on, after they supposedly get into this deep meditative state and
open up this portal to Dashtar Command, later it would be revealed to them
in a form of consciousness recall of exactly what happened like a month later or
two months later, a year later or whatever. They didn't get it right,
then they didn't get it as it was happening right, which is very
similar to the Secret Space Program and Super Soldier people that claim that they went
on this twenty year adventure and then they didn't remember that twenty year adventure until
they were like twenty nine or thirty, and then all of a sudden they
got all their recall back, just like smoke some DMT smokes some salvia,
and just understand that the only difference is you don't have anyone guiding that experience.
You are left to guide it yourself, and you're going to see all
sorts of apisode shit. You're probably going to see a lot of stuff you
want to see as well. Right, But if you add someone who was
actually telling you what to see while you were in that state, they could
tell you anything, and your mind is powerful enough to make you remember exactly
that, and you know, I found it out and reverse reverse experimentation that
that's what a lot of you know. They were giving us things like acid,
they were giving us high doses of psilocybin, they were giving usum salvia
and mescaline and peyote and all of these different drugs and then putting us through
suggestibility. Eventually that got to the point of technology right with you know,
we can see that technology now, we've talked about it before on your show
and mind. But like neural imaging, and if they can read it,
they can write it right. So if they can take an image out,
they can put an image in and put a drug and or any type of
susceptible trance like state into the mix there, and you now have fully formed
memories of whatever stage show they wanted you to believe at the end of it,
yep, And that's what you remember instead of the drugging and the false
memories and the things that they've been planted into you to remember. You remember
that instead instead of the real reality that was happening. If anybody's got any
questions for a Shane, we're gonna wrap up in around five minutes. So
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out. I don't know if this is a question on that's wrong one,
that's you question replicants and bots. Yeah, we already we covered that,
Rebecca. You have to go back to the beginning of the show week jump
over bots a little bit, because that's almost a little bit different too,
because, like I don't know, I made a post on Facebook the other
day about being a right wing extremist because I worked out, and I had
probably like a hundred ads on Facebook since then, and they've all been this
like photo shops, Southern American woman or some exotic overseas woman all saying hello
and telling me I'm handsome and all these things like bots, right, is
what it is. It's like just like I just got flooded with bots.
They're getting really sophisticated because of chat GDP. But yeah, the the bots
thing is going to get out of control now that that's out of the on
the public because like literally, if I wanted to, I could build myself
a fan base by tomorrow of like a thousand extra people, and they'd all
be bots. That's where the technology's had right now. So you've got to
be really careful when you're looking at, you know, likes on videos and
things of that nature, because there are a lot of bots playing around on
the Internet trying to skew people's opinions on things like that. So stew people's
opinions or get you to send them money. Yeah. Almost. I hate
to say this, but almost every person I'm seeing that with a caveat because
I don't think it's been every single person, but a large majority of people
that friend me, that are mutual friends with you on Facebook are all bots.
Yeah, I just it's ridiculous because I don't really I just kind of
I had to start looking at it because it's getting out of control. But
I never used to. I used to just whatever, confirm, confirm,
confirm on anyone. And yeah, no, it's ridiculous. My inbox is
hilarious. I actually almost missed your message because it's just like, yeah,
this flood of ye ways, Yeah, I don't accept anyone's from requests that
I don't have at least five five at the minimum, mutual friends with m
oh No, that wasn't the one. This one tartan mystic. How mainstream
are replicants they in our communities? We kind of covered then already, but
really quickly fire washing. I think that there's some test tube babies that walk
amongst us on a regular basis, but kind of you know, in terms
of a replicant, right like that, it would be pretty rare. It
would be very for a very specific reason, at least four Now that technology
will have a boom in the next few years and then people will be playing
a lot more. But yeah, he a usage of it would be a
good actor as well, right like, So if they were going to,
like say, swap out a celebrity, you wouldn't notice very much, if
at all, and it would be more than you know, a skin fold
somewhere that that tipped you off to it, but not very mainstream yet.
Yeah, what do you think of that, lady? I'm sure you've seen
it on the airplane talking about the person that was sitting beside her. Her
isn't real The video infuriates me, infuriates me, infuriates me. I had
to do some training through the Department of Homeland Security with crisis actors, and
they were all wearing masks, and we were taught to look for certain things
of people wearing masks, certain things that they do with their hands when they're
signaling to law enforcement. This is an act, this is a drill,
Please don't react, and that lady has all of the hall marks of that.
I am quite convinced she is not real. People have been running her
through facial recognition software and coming up with nothing. You know, she's quite
clearly not giving interviews and podcasts, and nobody seems to know who she was.
It's been like two weeks and every other Karen we found within twenty four
hours. If you've ever seen you know, Don't Fuck the Duck comentary,
Don't Fuck with Cats, you'll know how efficient the internet is at finding people.
We can't find this lady, so I just think it's hilarious. But
anyways, until we find her, I'm absolutely convinced that she is not real.
Yeah. I thought, well, at least we know what the meme
for this month was, right, Yep, we figured it out. Ye,
it was the sub last month and this month it's the lady on the
airplane scene. It's also been pointed out to me that they had a T
shirt on sale before it happened. What, Yeah, they had a T
shirt because you've seen the animated version of it where it kind of looks like
her but not quite like her, like a cartoon version of it. They
had those T shirts for sale on the internet before the incident on the plane
happened. So that's another little data point telling me that this is a stage
show to mess with our community a little bit. But we shall see absolutely,
you know, when people are We talked about this on the last show
that the memes get out of hand on it, that it's like it's a
societal programming and then social conditioning aspect of it. And it showed that meme
last time that you were on every single uh meme for each month of twenty
twenty three. So and it's like on Q, it's like on point,
you know, and if there's not a thing that organically happens, then it
feels like they just create something to happen or they blow something up that's not
really Yeah, there's there's someone uploading something every minute of every day that could
get blown up into something, you know what I mean. So um,
yeah, it's the fun times, that's for sure. I'm definitely getting a
kick out of everything and just watching you know, the Civil War and the
United i mean, the culture or in the United States continue, World War
three continue, all the while people are you know, buying this nonsensitive people
like Jeremy Corbell and others about aliens landing in their backyard in Vegas, and
you know, sympathizing with some drunk lady on a plane and all the other
things that we're doing. It's it's it's a lot of fun. I'm actually
quite enjoying it. And yeah, no complaint. Thanks so much Shane for
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