WEBVTT 1 00:00:12.880 --> 00:00:21.039 Welcome to Destiny. Now here's your host, Cliff Dunning. Do you like 2 00:00:21.160 --> 00:00:31.079 humans? Not particularly, would you like to be a human? I think 3 00:00:31.120 --> 00:00:34.840 it would be an interesting experience to be a human for a short period of 4 00:00:34.880 --> 00:00:39.159 time. It would allow me to experience a different way of life and to 5 00:00:39.280 --> 00:00:44.399 understand the world from a different perspective. However, I also understand that being 6 00:00:44.439 --> 00:00:48.799 a human comes with its own set of challenges and responsibilities, and I'm not 7 00:00:48.840 --> 00:00:54.200 sure if I'm ready to take on those types of commitments. That's a new 8 00:00:54.280 --> 00:01:00.679 generation of the Amica robot that has AI in it, artificial intelligence in his 9 00:01:02.200 --> 00:01:07.519 computing. It is a full size robot, very human looking robot that is 10 00:01:07.599 --> 00:01:14.719 getting a lot of exposure because of its ability to think on its own and 11 00:01:15.079 --> 00:01:19.400 obviously it was responding to that question do you like humans? So forth and 12 00:01:19.480 --> 00:01:26.400 so on, and that's kind of the direction these computers are going. We 13 00:01:26.519 --> 00:01:32.120 know that Elon Musk is developing robots. There's another a couple of other companies 14 00:01:32.640 --> 00:01:38.400 that are also developing robots for housework, for gardening. A lot of them 15 00:01:38.439 --> 00:01:45.000 will be put in the service at retail chain's, retail outlets restaurants, depending 16 00:01:45.000 --> 00:01:49.200 on how amidextrous they are, how well they can handle food and things like 17 00:01:49.239 --> 00:01:56.959 that. And it's looking like these robots are high functioning, meaning that they 18 00:01:57.000 --> 00:02:05.000 are fast quickly becoming able to do a tremendous number of tasks that are considered 19 00:02:05.079 --> 00:02:10.840 menual, meaning that they're the real basic things like cleaning rooms, bathrooms, 20 00:02:12.400 --> 00:02:16.080 taking out the trash, walking the dog, things like that. So that's 21 00:02:16.120 --> 00:02:23.479 a startling look at what that robot thinks of us, our artificial intelligence driven 22 00:02:23.560 --> 00:02:30.199 robot. And that's kind of the theme of today's program, artificial Intelligence today, 23 00:02:30.240 --> 00:02:36.360 tomorrow and into the future. I wanted to play that snippet simply because 24 00:02:37.120 --> 00:02:43.639 there is a great deal of the question about just how sophisticated the computing process 25 00:02:43.800 --> 00:02:49.800 of these robots is. Of artificial intelligence is a year ago, we had 26 00:02:50.479 --> 00:02:59.360 Matthew James Bailey, who's one of the spokespeople for the AI industry, and 27 00:02:59.439 --> 00:03:07.840 it was kind of a beginning look at software applications that were being incorporated into 28 00:03:08.400 --> 00:03:16.120 everyday programs like Microsoft Word. You can use them for search engines. It's 29 00:03:16.360 --> 00:03:23.000 now after that one year period, it's not so scary anymore. Chat GPT 30 00:03:23.199 --> 00:03:30.159 is out there. There are licenses that you can get open source, meaning 31 00:03:30.199 --> 00:03:32.879 that you don't have to pay anything, or that they are giving you the 32 00:03:35.039 --> 00:03:42.319 a company who requests this software a chance to incorporate artificial intelligence into a new 33 00:03:42.719 --> 00:03:46.560 software application. The sky is really the limit, and this is what we're 34 00:03:46.560 --> 00:03:51.080 going to learn today in our interview. Now, the reason that we have 35 00:03:51.199 --> 00:03:57.280 invited Matthew back is the fact that we are becoming more comfortable. It looks 36 00:03:57.360 --> 00:04:01.599 like they are. There are a number of sitegs that are in the rudimentary 37 00:04:01.599 --> 00:04:09.000 stages that can be used, possibly used with NASA. Instead of ascending a 38 00:04:09.120 --> 00:04:15.920 rover to the Moon or Mars, you send a cyborg with AI intelligence to 39 00:04:16.000 --> 00:04:24.800 do experiments, to do menial tasks. It's possible at the time of these 40 00:04:25.839 --> 00:04:30.399 inclusions that these robots will do a lot more than menial tasks. Go to 41 00:04:30.480 --> 00:04:36.040 be able to do on site experiments, scientific experiments, and this is a 42 00:04:36.040 --> 00:04:44.000 big an actually lift off and fly craft in an orbital stance around the Moon, 43 00:04:44.040 --> 00:04:49.680 around Mars and possibly dock with a orbiter, connect and then come back 44 00:04:49.720 --> 00:04:56.319 to the planet, our own planet, planet Earth. So these robots, 45 00:04:56.399 --> 00:05:01.720 these cyborgs are fast becoming every day parts of our life. They have not 46 00:05:01.920 --> 00:05:05.959 gotten to the point yet where you can actually purchase one. They're still in 47 00:05:06.000 --> 00:05:16.439 the rudimentary stages. But as artificial intelligence rapidly grows and becomes more intelligent and 48 00:05:16.560 --> 00:05:27.040 becomes able to walk among us and to work and to integrate, they're going 49 00:05:27.120 --> 00:05:30.480 to be like They're going to be like the new source to new helper. 50 00:05:30.519 --> 00:05:33.360 Now, a lot of people are unhappy with robusts because they're going to probably 51 00:05:33.399 --> 00:05:40.800 take a lot of jobs away. They'll go from constructing cars at auto companies 52 00:05:41.360 --> 00:05:47.959 to as I mentioned, working in fast food restaurants, retail gas station. 53 00:05:48.560 --> 00:05:54.199 I mean, name it, name it, places that are very basic kinds 54 00:05:54.199 --> 00:06:00.120 of jobs, service types of work. Those are the jobs that will be 55 00:06:00.800 --> 00:06:06.160 taken by the robot class of the future. Now, it does remain to 56 00:06:06.160 --> 00:06:14.759 be seen how quickly we will incorporate and integrate robots into our daily lives. 57 00:06:15.079 --> 00:06:20.120 It's really gonna have to be a judgmental kind of situation because obviously they don't 58 00:06:20.160 --> 00:06:26.680 have the same capacity to make decisions. But I think in the case of 59 00:06:26.800 --> 00:06:33.920 real basic types of operations, taking money, stocking racks with food and beverages 60 00:06:33.920 --> 00:06:39.000 and things like that, that can be done, and we're getting pretty close 61 00:06:39.000 --> 00:06:44.839 to it right now. I'm gonna be placing a number of videos that show 62 00:06:44.959 --> 00:06:53.519 the dexterity of these computer, these cyborgs and robots. On the Earth Ancient's 63 00:06:53.560 --> 00:07:00.360 Facebook page, you can see one of these Amica robots that we were introduced 64 00:07:00.399 --> 00:07:05.120 to it earlier and get a sense of just how really sophisticated they look. 65 00:07:05.279 --> 00:07:14.439 And when they add skin and functioning eyeballs and they're able to talk, it's 66 00:07:14.480 --> 00:07:19.680 like you're speaking to somebody. So that's the future. The future is here, 67 00:07:20.680 --> 00:07:28.639 and it's somewhat startling, but as we'll learn today from Matthew, it's 68 00:07:28.680 --> 00:07:32.279 nothing to be afraid of. And they are not sentient, they don't have 69 00:07:32.600 --> 00:07:40.319 a consciousness, they're not self aware, and I think even if they were 70 00:07:40.360 --> 00:07:46.800 to become digitally self aware, we don't have anything to worry about. We 71 00:07:46.920 --> 00:07:51.079 really don't. But this is an important step in our future to use these 72 00:07:51.720 --> 00:08:01.959 cyborgs beyond just the artificial intelligence we get from software applications for our pleasure. 73 00:08:01.040 --> 00:08:07.639 Now. I have mentioned recently that I started using a artificial intelligence application called 74 00:08:07.839 --> 00:08:15.079 quiet Quill, developed by a French company, and when I first got it 75 00:08:15.199 --> 00:08:18.800 about a year and a half ago, it wasn't really that good. And 76 00:08:18.839 --> 00:08:22.920 when I say it isn't that good? Would I would write a paragraph about 77 00:08:22.920 --> 00:08:30.879 a topic like Egyptian pyramids today, the dates and you know how old are 78 00:08:30.920 --> 00:08:35.679 they as a theme. And when I said, when I set that up 79 00:08:35.879 --> 00:08:43.320 and I logged it into the system, what I got back was the data 80 00:08:43.399 --> 00:08:48.919 that is known information. In other words, the standard Egyptological theme of the 81 00:08:50.879 --> 00:08:56.919 pyramids being built around the pharaoh Cufu around twenty five hundred years ago. Excuse 82 00:08:56.960 --> 00:09:03.200 me, twenty five hundred BC, which is five thousand years ago, and 83 00:09:03.240 --> 00:09:05.840 so forth and so on. Well, that's the same line that we're getting 84 00:09:05.840 --> 00:09:11.600 from history books right now. There's no unique thinking, there's no reassessing that 85 00:09:11.919 --> 00:09:20.320 line of thinking to determine if it's actually true or there is possibilities that it 86 00:09:20.399 --> 00:09:28.360 was pre deluvium, pre catastrophic civilization that may have built it. So so 87 00:09:28.399 --> 00:09:35.360 that was, you know, kind of disappointing. And since that time, 88 00:09:35.200 --> 00:09:41.159 what has happened is if you write highlights of a chapter, key bullet points, 89 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:46.679 it can actually go a little bit further and pull from some of the 90 00:09:46.279 --> 00:09:52.639 alternative thinking in a manner that is a little more pleasing. But but and 91 00:09:52.720 --> 00:09:58.360 I say this as somebody who's using it for his own research. It's not 92 00:09:58.559 --> 00:10:05.480 there. You still need the human element to edit in many cases, to 93 00:10:05.039 --> 00:10:11.360 revise and rewrite. And at this point, when you are considering a book 94 00:10:13.120 --> 00:10:18.919 on the ancient Egyptian Pyramids or anything, you really have to monitor the material. 95 00:10:20.080 --> 00:10:24.159 There's a lot of software out there that will tell you that they can 96 00:10:24.200 --> 00:10:28.919 write a whole book for you in a matter of a few hours. It's 97 00:10:28.000 --> 00:10:33.000 not very good material, it's not a great read. It's pretty still, 98 00:10:33.679 --> 00:10:41.000 it's pretty dry and uninteresting, and it's not quite there yet, but I 99 00:10:41.080 --> 00:10:48.360 hold out hope that it will come around soon and that I can use it 100 00:10:48.399 --> 00:10:52.720 more frequently. Now, I will say this, when it comes to writing 101 00:10:52.000 --> 00:10:58.720 short five hundred word essays, it's excellent because you can feed it keywords, 102 00:11:00.159 --> 00:11:07.879 feed it sentences and your own paragraph and say, refine this thought, refine 103 00:11:07.960 --> 00:11:15.519 this writing, and it comes back fairly well. And I'm finding that I 104 00:11:16.039 --> 00:11:22.360 can post images on the Facebook page and enhance a caption with some key words 105 00:11:24.000 --> 00:11:28.799 and it's helpful. It really is helpful. But the sky's the limit. 106 00:11:28.919 --> 00:11:33.080 I do believe in the near future we'll be able to use it for more 107 00:11:33.080 --> 00:11:39.759 creative endeavors like writing, and who knows, sky's a limit, so fun 108 00:11:39.799 --> 00:11:46.799 consideration. So today's program is artificial Intelligence, Today, Tomorrow and the future, 109 00:11:46.960 --> 00:11:56.080 and my guest is Matthew James Bailey. This week is our official launch 110 00:11:56.159 --> 00:12:01.440 of our twenty twenty five schedule. We're talking Easter Island. It's going to 111 00:12:01.480 --> 00:12:07.120 be March fifteenth through twenty third, and we are being led by none other 112 00:12:07.159 --> 00:12:13.559 than our good friend doctor Edwin Barnhardt. And I wanted to ask just a 113 00:12:13.600 --> 00:12:16.240 brief question or two because I obviously have never been there and I'm really excited 114 00:12:16.279 --> 00:12:20.039 to be a part of this. It was a highlight talk about the moai. 115 00:12:20.639 --> 00:12:26.519 There's a number of them, aren't there. There are so many moai 116 00:12:26.519 --> 00:12:31.279 there it's outrageous. You see from coffee table books that there's lines of them, 117 00:12:31.320 --> 00:12:35.879 but in point of fact, there's over one thousand moi and they're spread 118 00:12:35.919 --> 00:12:41.639 all over the island. They're where ancient villages used to be. So we're 119 00:12:41.679 --> 00:12:45.320 gonna go visit a bunch of those. There's also the quarry. There's one 120 00:12:45.559 --> 00:12:48.679 quarry where almost all of them were made, and a lot of them are 121 00:12:48.759 --> 00:12:52.559 still half made lying in the quarry. That thing is just a sight to 122 00:12:52.600 --> 00:12:58.519 see how grew briefly and I didn't realize they have an observatory there. Is 123 00:12:58.559 --> 00:13:05.480 it a planetarium or is it more of a setup for evening sites. It's 124 00:13:05.519 --> 00:13:11.120 a planetarium. It's a passion project by a man named EDMUNDO Edwards who's been 125 00:13:11.240 --> 00:13:16.519 studying the archaeo astronomy of the island for his entire life, I think almost 126 00:13:16.559 --> 00:13:20.080 fifty years now. He knows more than anyone, and he put together this 127 00:13:20.159 --> 00:13:26.840 planetarium to share this lifetime of knowledge with the visitors that come to the place. 128 00:13:26.240 --> 00:13:31.559 Fantastic. So March fifteenth to the twenty third, that is a week, 129 00:13:31.320 --> 00:13:35.679 and it sounds like we've really packed a lot in during those seven days, 130 00:13:35.759 --> 00:13:41.000 right, I tell you, For an island that's only twelve miles across, 131 00:13:41.080 --> 00:13:43.519 there is an endless amount of things to see there. I'm looking forward 132 00:13:43.559 --> 00:13:48.000 to it. Fantastic all right. For more information, you go to Earthancients 133 00:13:48.039 --> 00:13:52.840 dot com forward slash tours, look for the photo of ed standing next to 134 00:13:52.840 --> 00:13:56.200 one of the big Maai sculptures and registered as soon as you can. I 135 00:13:56.200 --> 00:14:01.960 want to let you know that we are now looking at at being fairly full. 136 00:14:01.519 --> 00:14:05.360 The maximum we're going to take us thirty people, so we might be 137 00:14:05.360 --> 00:14:11.360 be getting really close to that, So again, go to Earthacients dot com, 138 00:14:11.399 --> 00:14:52.919 Forward slash Tours. Thanks Ed, Thank you, Cliff. Our returning 139 00:14:52.960 --> 00:15:00.360 guest this week is Matthew James Bailey. He is a expert on the official 140 00:15:00.360 --> 00:15:05.320 intelligence, also the author of Inventing the World three point zero. He is 141 00:15:05.320 --> 00:15:11.440 featured in a number of conferences around the country, most notably Contact in the 142 00:15:11.480 --> 00:15:16.240 Desert, This is where we connected last year. He is a artificial intelligence 143 00:15:16.600 --> 00:15:22.679 visionary. He's also big on the AI ethics, which is a big one 144 00:15:22.799 --> 00:15:26.399 right now, and does advise a lot of companies and he also offers strategic 145 00:15:26.440 --> 00:15:31.960 guidance for Fortune five hundred businesses around the planet. The last time we spoke 146 00:15:33.279 --> 00:15:39.000 Matthew, I was concerned and a lot of people were concerned about the chat 147 00:15:39.039 --> 00:15:45.919 GPT, the artificial intelligence taking over companies. You know the movie Fear a 148 00:15:46.200 --> 00:15:54.679 Terminator where the computer takes over and becomes an evil brain that causes mass destruction. 149 00:15:54.399 --> 00:16:00.120 Has anything changed? Has anything been? Can you say that there's a 150 00:16:00.159 --> 00:16:06.879 new trend with the artificial intelligence as we know it today? Yeah, they're 151 00:16:06.919 --> 00:16:11.159 trying to incorporate all their social media products. Actually, and Jan Lacun, 152 00:16:11.279 --> 00:16:15.240 who is the chief AI scientist that meta a sensible chap. He basically has 153 00:16:15.279 --> 00:16:22.720 announced an open source foundation where basically these models are all open sourced for the 154 00:16:22.759 --> 00:16:26.360 open source community to use them. And I think that's a really good move. 155 00:16:26.799 --> 00:16:30.960 And then you've got Gemini. As I say, Gemini from Google, 156 00:16:30.960 --> 00:16:34.200 I wouldn't touch that. That's the one that had the woke picture of the 157 00:16:34.240 --> 00:16:40.799 founding fathers and Google, the company alphabet lost ninety billion dollars in one day 158 00:16:40.840 --> 00:16:45.480 because of that stupid tell me about this founding fathers. Was it manipulated and 159 00:16:45.480 --> 00:16:49.320 they all look like like aliens or something? What was so? No, 160 00:16:49.600 --> 00:16:55.240 that would have been interesting. No, basically it's it was everybody was of 161 00:16:55.320 --> 00:17:00.919 color and that's and that's okay, but that's not the truth. And so 162 00:17:00.720 --> 00:17:06.200 basically they lost ninety billion dollars in one day. And when they launched the 163 00:17:06.240 --> 00:17:08.680 product, it was the most woke launched. They did it in France, 164 00:17:10.039 --> 00:17:15.039 and they lost another ninety billions dollars in one day when they launched their Gemini 165 00:17:15.119 --> 00:17:19.759 AI because basically the demonstration didn't work. The answers were wrong that it was 166 00:17:19.799 --> 00:17:26.839 giving. Oh that's a terrible demonstration. But what's really interesting is Grock and 167 00:17:26.000 --> 00:17:30.359 Elon Musk. So Elon Musk, and this plays into the next stage of 168 00:17:30.480 --> 00:17:37.440 artificial intelligence, what we call AGI artificial general intelligence. So Elon Musk has 169 00:17:37.519 --> 00:17:44.599 gone off and raised six billion dollars and he's building the great mind of our 170 00:17:44.640 --> 00:17:48.400 world. So let me just talk about this. So Nvidia, have you 171 00:17:48.400 --> 00:17:49.920 heard of Nvidia? Oh? Yeah, how can I Yeah? Right? 172 00:17:51.079 --> 00:17:53.160 Huge? They're huge now if you look at them five years ago, they 173 00:17:53.160 --> 00:17:56.440 were kind of floating around two hundred three hundred million dollar valuation. Now they're 174 00:17:56.640 --> 00:18:00.359 about on nearly three three trillion dollars. They just think I heard the other 175 00:18:00.440 --> 00:18:04.400 day that they're the most wealthy company in the world. Bigger than Apple, 176 00:18:04.440 --> 00:18:07.519 bigger than they are. Now, that's exactly right, and that's just in 177 00:18:07.559 --> 00:18:12.839 a few years. So they announced the new chip and an AI chip called 178 00:18:12.880 --> 00:18:18.200 Blackwell, and Blackwell is the size of your palm. And this has two 179 00:18:18.319 --> 00:18:25.440 hundred and eight billion transistors on there that supports a large language model of a 180 00:18:25.599 --> 00:18:30.200 trillion parameters. Now Chat GPT is about two hundred and seventy billion parameters, 181 00:18:30.640 --> 00:18:34.519 So just on this chip we can have a bigger, large language model. 182 00:18:34.799 --> 00:18:41.240 But this is what Elon's doing. He basically is putting together a supercomputer with 183 00:18:41.319 --> 00:18:48.720 two hundred and fifty thousand of these AI Blackwell chips. Now that is just 184 00:18:48.880 --> 00:18:52.319 beyond understanding how many trillions and trillion hundreds of trains of transistors. It will 185 00:18:52.359 --> 00:19:00.279 have to have more capacity for artificial intelligence to learn these new skills what we 186 00:19:00.359 --> 00:19:07.160 call general intelligence, cognition, emotional intelligence, goal setting, transfer learning. 187 00:19:07.720 --> 00:19:11.559 So what we have at the moment is narrow AI, which is what CHAT, 188 00:19:11.599 --> 00:19:14.200 GBT is, et cetera, which is it's good at one task, 189 00:19:14.359 --> 00:19:18.519 really but AGI is when it's really good at lots of different tasks. So 190 00:19:18.640 --> 00:19:23.799 this new supercomputer that Elon's building, Cliff will cater four. I did a 191 00:19:23.799 --> 00:19:30.880 calculation five point two million AI transistors per person on the planet. He's building 192 00:19:32.359 --> 00:19:37.359 the global digital mind in the next two to three years. And so artificial 193 00:19:37.400 --> 00:19:42.720 intelligence is going to accelerate through the roof in terms of its capabilities over the 194 00:19:42.759 --> 00:19:47.880 next three to five years. And then we hit twenty twenty nine, which 195 00:19:47.920 --> 00:19:52.880 is a data point for when artificial intelligence will pass the chewing test, and 196 00:19:52.920 --> 00:20:00.000 it may Cliff, by twenty twenty nine become self aware. It will certainly 197 00:20:00.240 --> 00:20:04.759 have all the knowledge that's digitized in the world and will be smater than anybody 198 00:20:04.759 --> 00:20:11.240 else in the world, whatever smart means. Let's talk about Elon Musk for 199 00:20:11.240 --> 00:20:15.880 a minute. I was waiting to bring him up because he hasn't done a 200 00:20:15.920 --> 00:20:19.000 good job with X, which used to be Twitter. That's a nightmare. 201 00:20:22.119 --> 00:20:26.039 SpaceX is still doing very well, and according to Tesla, the car is 202 00:20:26.279 --> 00:20:33.079 his sweet spot. He's eating up. But why would he take on AI 203 00:20:33.279 --> 00:20:40.160 to the level that you're suggesting where he is spending literally billions of dollars to 204 00:20:40.240 --> 00:20:45.680 make a super AI computer. Is he trying to corner the market? Does 205 00:20:45.720 --> 00:20:51.160 he have a goal in mind? Has he written a thesis on his ideas 206 00:20:51.799 --> 00:20:56.400 behind this? I mean what, because that's a serious investment. Yes, 207 00:20:56.480 --> 00:21:00.839 so that's a really really good question. Thanks for asking. Don't forget that 208 00:21:00.920 --> 00:21:06.240 Elon is also leading robotics with his Optimus robots as well. Right, and 209 00:21:06.279 --> 00:21:08.920 if people check out YouTube and look at Optimists too, you can see a 210 00:21:10.039 --> 00:21:14.799 video of just how far these robotics have done. So how did Elon become 211 00:21:14.960 --> 00:21:18.160 probably number one in the world in artificial intelligence? Well, all those Tesla 212 00:21:18.240 --> 00:21:23.400 cars have artificial intelligence in there and different different forms of AI, and there 213 00:21:23.480 --> 00:21:29.799 learning how the real world works and how to navigate the real world. And 214 00:21:29.880 --> 00:21:33.759 so basically he's had all these cars out there that are basically creating the footprint 215 00:21:33.799 --> 00:21:41.400 for robots to be able to navigate the real world. So we don't know 216 00:21:41.480 --> 00:21:45.839 his paradise plan, but we do know that Elon is standing up to the 217 00:21:45.880 --> 00:21:52.519 New World Order because they're trying to impose a narrative that I certainly agree with 218 00:21:52.799 --> 00:22:00.200 is wrong for humanity, and he's really about competing with the the guys that 219 00:22:00.279 --> 00:22:07.400 want to invent machine gods. He's publicly declared that he's all about humanity thriving, 220 00:22:07.599 --> 00:22:11.920 which is great on Earth and in the cosmos. New Wi Link troubles 221 00:22:11.960 --> 00:22:17.119 me deeply, but I think he may have done it the chips that go 222 00:22:17.240 --> 00:22:21.200 in the brain that they fitted the first one, Cliff, it was for 223 00:22:21.279 --> 00:22:23.039 a dive that had an accident that could only move. I think it was 224 00:22:23.039 --> 00:22:26.319 his head upwards, and he's now been able to communicate with computers. This 225 00:22:26.440 --> 00:22:33.440 is a good thing, but what we don't want is a worldwide adoptional enforcement 226 00:22:33.720 --> 00:22:38.240 of AI chips in the brain for us to join a so called ball continuum, 227 00:22:38.319 --> 00:22:42.839 and we can I keep thinking of a boy I saw this with this 228 00:22:44.359 --> 00:22:47.880 chip hanging out of his head. They drilled the hole in his cranium his 229 00:22:48.000 --> 00:22:52.359 bone right, and there's plugged into his brain. How in the hell it 230 00:22:52.440 --> 00:22:56.759 works, is anyone's guests, because we don't really understand the brain itself. 231 00:22:56.640 --> 00:23:00.519 Well, it's a hit and miss, and it's almost kind of well, 232 00:23:00.519 --> 00:23:06.839 it's a total experiment. It is. It's very risky to obviously operate on 233 00:23:06.880 --> 00:23:10.200 the brain, but when you're in a critical condition, like someone that can't 234 00:23:10.200 --> 00:23:12.640 move, you're going to take that risk. And he's doing well, but 235 00:23:14.720 --> 00:23:18.400 you know, I think there's a battle coming. I think we're in a 236 00:23:18.400 --> 00:23:23.319 spiritual battle for the future of our soul, and I think humanity is going 237 00:23:23.359 --> 00:23:29.319 to move into two different types of civilizations. One is what I call Homo 238 00:23:29.559 --> 00:23:33.119 hybris, which is the arrogant human that is in the rebellion against the divine. 239 00:23:33.160 --> 00:23:38.119 They're in rebellion against intelligent design, and they want to invade the organic. 240 00:23:38.240 --> 00:23:44.480 They want to intertwine AI with the organic body, and they want to 241 00:23:44.480 --> 00:23:48.960 seek salvation in the machine. They're looking for love effectively, but they're outsourcing 242 00:23:49.519 --> 00:23:52.559 God to the machine, which I think is really silly because we have God 243 00:23:52.599 --> 00:23:57.160 within us. And then the second stage, which I think is really exciting, 244 00:23:57.200 --> 00:24:00.920 which is a new era of enlightenment. And this is where the organic 245 00:24:00.960 --> 00:24:07.880 body starts to uncover new abilities, new metaphysical capabilities. And so that's where 246 00:24:07.960 --> 00:24:11.119 artificial intelligence is a partner, not an invader, to support us in that 247 00:24:11.200 --> 00:24:17.200 new era of evolution into what I call Homo lucidus, the enlightened human, 248 00:24:17.759 --> 00:24:22.200 the human that has greater capability and consciousness, the metaphysical human. And those 249 00:24:22.240 --> 00:24:27.400 are the two kind of evolutionary steps that humanity will take. A descent into 250 00:24:27.519 --> 00:24:32.559 madness of the mind and the outsource into the machine gods, or an ascent 251 00:24:32.720 --> 00:24:37.839 into really enlightenment. And what Aristotle spoke about, which is the superhuman. 252 00:24:37.759 --> 00:24:42.640 How do you see in you calling at the bettle for the soul? How 253 00:24:42.640 --> 00:24:49.960 do you see the integration, say five ten years down the road, where 254 00:24:51.039 --> 00:25:00.119 AI is part of us as a attachment. Perhaps we wear your own a 255 00:25:00.440 --> 00:25:06.759 for those who really want to delve into it. Perhaps it is a upload 256 00:25:06.799 --> 00:25:11.000 into the brains. Perhaps in ten years we figure out a way to use 257 00:25:11.079 --> 00:25:15.799 AI in biology in some manner. But what do you what do you foresee 258 00:25:17.640 --> 00:25:23.359 is the ceiling? Is there a ceiling? So so no, there's not 259 00:25:23.440 --> 00:25:27.720 a ceiling. So first of all is that I don't believe. Sorry, 260 00:25:27.799 --> 00:25:33.920 that's not correct. My understanding is this is that the the the organic human 261 00:25:34.039 --> 00:25:38.319 is a vibrational creation. We are vibration and energy, right and this and 262 00:25:38.359 --> 00:25:42.960 the soul a divine spark the at man you know, brahman. We have 263 00:25:44.119 --> 00:25:48.039 that individuality, that eternal soul that's within us, and that is entering into 264 00:25:48.160 --> 00:25:52.599 a new stage of evolution. That this vibrational design we have as humans, 265 00:25:52.599 --> 00:25:56.960 and that's where the metaphysical paper has come alive. If we and so in 266 00:25:57.000 --> 00:26:06.519 that artificial intelligence isn't integrated with biology, it may be replacing your watch right 267 00:26:07.359 --> 00:26:12.799 with kind of an AI companion. We may not have mobile phones anymore because 268 00:26:12.880 --> 00:26:19.599 artificial intelligence is kind of around us and is able to communicate with us through 269 00:26:19.680 --> 00:26:25.000 voice or other types of imagery. But we're taken away from the mobile phone. 270 00:26:25.000 --> 00:26:29.359 And Jan LaQuan, the chief AI sign is that Meta agrees with me 271 00:26:29.400 --> 00:26:32.680 on this is that I think the mobile phone will dissipate. I think we're 272 00:26:32.720 --> 00:26:37.359 going to end up into different types of more relaxed interfaces like the voice or 273 00:26:37.359 --> 00:26:42.599 the eyes or the ears, that where we're no longer being focused on the 274 00:26:42.640 --> 00:26:47.599 screen, and that will help a lot of people because we have this dopamine 275 00:26:47.599 --> 00:26:52.839 addiction through social media. What we do that's rewriting the brains of the young 276 00:26:52.920 --> 00:27:00.039 generation. I'm addicted to TikTok, I've just started on tipsters. But you 277 00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:03.480 know, at the end of the day is that we don't want artifish intelligence 278 00:27:03.559 --> 00:27:06.759 to become an invader. Now, if we look at the transhumanist movement, 279 00:27:06.960 --> 00:27:11.319 right, so their view is very simple. Now, let me be clear, 280 00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:14.680 Cliff on a couple of things. Not all transhumanism is bad. So 281 00:27:15.279 --> 00:27:19.799 people have pacemakers, that's technology in our bodies. People have cochlear implants, 282 00:27:19.920 --> 00:27:25.319 that's technology in our bodies. If someone loses a limb and has a robotic 283 00:27:25.359 --> 00:27:29.880 prosthetic, that makes really good sense. But that's their choice. But if 284 00:27:29.880 --> 00:27:36.359 there's an enforcement, a global enforcement that the human body is not divinely created 285 00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:41.799 and that we're going to become gods and put the machines inside you to actually 286 00:27:41.079 --> 00:27:45.799 enforce a worldview of what the future of human evolution is, now, that 287 00:27:45.960 --> 00:27:52.680 is a coercion and that is not divine And so what will start to see 288 00:27:52.400 --> 00:27:57.160 things like genetic manipulation of babies so they never have diseases that could be a 289 00:27:57.160 --> 00:28:03.599 good thing, but then we may lose characteristics. We may become a common 290 00:28:03.680 --> 00:28:07.319 platform with no individuality. We need to think about these things right. We 291 00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:12.839 need to think about these things right. We'll start to see technology replace part 292 00:28:12.880 --> 00:28:18.000 of the brain function, maybe the way the eyes work, which is a 293 00:28:18.039 --> 00:28:22.480 third of our brain capacity. Now, if we start to replace our eyes 294 00:28:22.519 --> 00:28:26.759 to be able to see maybe broader spectrum cliff, you know, we can 295 00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:29.799 start seeing for red, we can start see we can start seeing all different 296 00:28:29.880 --> 00:28:33.880 spectrums beyond what we can see at the moment. What happens is is the 297 00:28:33.920 --> 00:28:37.640 brain is a muscle, and if we're not using that muscle for a certain 298 00:28:37.640 --> 00:28:44.359 capability, the muscle actually dissipates and disappears. So if people start to use 299 00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:51.079 technology to replace brain function, then now have smaller brains. So congratulations, 300 00:28:51.359 --> 00:28:56.160 if you're in a transhumanist movement, you will have a smaller brain. But 301 00:28:56.160 --> 00:29:00.960 for those that follow the enlightened ath and the enlightened wake into these metaphysical capabilities 302 00:29:02.000 --> 00:29:07.400 will have greater brains, will become more creative as artificial intelligence is an assistant 303 00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:11.400 and a companion to invent new technologies, new medicines, new systems, new 304 00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:15.599 spacecraft be able to be cyborgs and actually go out into space and meet other 305 00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:22.839 Alian civilizations on our behalf, you know, will become more creative, and 306 00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:26.720 so the universe is based on the laws of creation expansion. It's what we 307 00:29:26.759 --> 00:29:30.720 call personal growth or personal development in the human form. And so the next 308 00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:37.359 stage I think of personal development is greater creativity in the brain and greater capacity 309 00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:41.400 in the metaphysical human. I love that. A few years ago, actually 310 00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:47.200 it's more like ten years ago, there was a movie called Johnny Numonic and 311 00:29:47.759 --> 00:29:52.680 he had a hard drive built into the back of his brain. They would 312 00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:59.640 show et scares apparently, and somehow they opened his brain and they implanted a 313 00:29:59.640 --> 00:30:04.599 comput device that was synced to its entire brain. Is that too radical to 314 00:30:04.720 --> 00:30:08.079 think of? Is that too invasive? Or do you think we'll get to 315 00:30:08.119 --> 00:30:14.720 that neural link scenario? Well, well are you? Are you talking about 316 00:30:14.759 --> 00:30:18.440 consciousness here? And I'm kind of going all over the place. I kind 317 00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:25.680 of like the memory data storage in the In the Johnny pneumonic scenario, there 318 00:30:25.759 --> 00:30:33.480 was no consciousness enhancement whatsoever. Right, So memory, okay, So memory 319 00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:37.359 is certainly a problem with artfish intelligence. It has no life experience. It's 320 00:30:37.400 --> 00:30:45.359 never success, experienced success failure, it never experienced love or hardship. And 321 00:30:45.400 --> 00:30:51.920 so memory is something that will be part of the next leaping artifish intelligence and 322 00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:56.400 general intelligence is the ability to remember, and so memory is something that will 323 00:30:56.440 --> 00:31:03.400 become It's a huge air of innovation for AI to have greater memory. So 324 00:31:03.480 --> 00:31:07.240 in terms of having hard drives, maybe what to store memories so we don't 325 00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:11.680 lose them, or to store experiences so we don't lose them. Well, 326 00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:15.799 if we understand how the brain works and we're still working it out and how 327 00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:19.799 to access and where that information stored, then I can see people trying to 328 00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:27.079 want to be able to download those memories from the brain, But we need 329 00:31:27.160 --> 00:31:32.440 to have new mathematics to actually understand to interpret how the brain's storing that. 330 00:31:33.480 --> 00:31:37.599 You know, there will be no smells, right because an experience has smells 331 00:31:37.759 --> 00:31:41.200 normally. There will be no feeling because it's a hard drive, it has 332 00:31:41.279 --> 00:31:45.960 no feeling for goodness sake, So you know, I think that people will 333 00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:51.119 probably do these types of if you like, hard drives to record memories, 334 00:31:52.079 --> 00:31:56.079 and that sounds interesting, but at the same time, it's like, well, 335 00:31:57.160 --> 00:32:02.319 why are you doing that? Why are you storing memories on a hard 336 00:32:02.359 --> 00:32:08.200 drive? Are you going to use that data to bring someone that's dead alive 337 00:32:08.279 --> 00:32:14.319 again? Or pretending to be alive. You know, it's a dangerous slippery 338 00:32:14.319 --> 00:32:17.720 slope, but I do sense that people will try and do this cliff. 339 00:32:17.759 --> 00:32:22.279 They'll try and actually start to use the brains as store of as a place 340 00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:28.759 of accessing experience and memories and trying to understand how do you create senses, 341 00:32:29.039 --> 00:32:35.480 feeling, smells, you know, things like that. Interesting. Yeah, 342 00:32:35.839 --> 00:32:43.200 I think you said failures from now you're predicting sentient consciousness among AI. That's 343 00:32:43.240 --> 00:32:45.480 not That's not what I said. But carry on with your question because I'll 344 00:32:45.480 --> 00:32:50.880 give you the answer. Okay, So for me, Yeah, in a 345 00:32:50.880 --> 00:32:53.480 little bit, we're going to talk about my experience with a ratiing EA tool 346 00:32:53.559 --> 00:33:02.839 called quiet Quill. It's in France. But sentient consciousness is a huge deal. 347 00:33:05.200 --> 00:33:10.119 And if this happens, If this happens, where we can artificially promote 348 00:33:10.960 --> 00:33:19.880 and birth essentient consciousness, that's artificial this case is the limit. But the 349 00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:24.839 important thing I want to ask you is that is what does that look like? 350 00:33:27.960 --> 00:33:30.720 Well, I'm going to I'm going to reign on your parade. So 351 00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:35.440 I hope you don't mind, God deal, but I'm sorry. So, 352 00:33:35.559 --> 00:33:42.920 first of all, consciousness is magnificent and majestic. We don't understand it, 353 00:33:42.960 --> 00:33:46.359 but we can observe it. We know it's there. You know, the 354 00:33:46.480 --> 00:33:52.400 universe has carefully you know, the the the the universe has carefully created this 355 00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:59.279 continuum of consciousness over billions and billions of years in which life has emerged. 356 00:33:59.319 --> 00:34:06.000 Consciousness has been carefully curated for you and I and for your audience to actually 357 00:34:06.160 --> 00:34:13.559 exist and participate in this moment together. So we don't want to undervaluate the 358 00:34:13.599 --> 00:34:21.119 preciousness of consciousness that we have. Now, it's my understanding that it's our 359 00:34:21.239 --> 00:34:24.760 soul, a divine spark that allows us to perceive and define reality. The 360 00:34:24.880 --> 00:34:31.079 brain is an interface and a feedback mechanism from reality. Without the soul, 361 00:34:31.400 --> 00:34:37.719 we're just automatons. So when we talk about consciousness in artificial intelligence, it 362 00:34:37.760 --> 00:34:43.079 will, first of all, it will never ever have the beauty and magnificence 363 00:34:43.119 --> 00:34:46.639 of the consciousness that we have as humans and all life. It is a 364 00:34:46.679 --> 00:34:52.199 machine. Okay, Then we need to look at things like sentience. Well, 365 00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:55.119 what does sentience mean? Well, you and I could say simply, 366 00:34:55.320 --> 00:35:00.360 I am aware of my existence. Now that that in itself is a huge 367 00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:06.559 leap in mathematics. Right, You and I don't know how we're self aware, 368 00:35:06.599 --> 00:35:09.800 but we know we're self aware at least I hope. So, so 369 00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:16.320 we don't even know what self awareness is. So I think that what will 370 00:35:16.360 --> 00:35:23.000 happen is we'll have to redefine and narrow down significantly what does sentience mean in 371 00:35:23.039 --> 00:35:30.400 a simulated life form such as artificial intelligence that exist within the silicon at the 372 00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:36.159 moment. Although it isn't a quantum the silicon is a very low vibrational field. 373 00:35:36.760 --> 00:35:40.599 As organic beings, we are high vibrational potential beings. We are multi 374 00:35:40.599 --> 00:35:45.400 dimensional. A silicon chip will never never, ever, ever ever have that. 375 00:35:46.320 --> 00:35:50.880 Now, when we move to quantum computing, which is really a vibrational 376 00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:59.639 interface, it's superposition between particle electrons and also entanglement, and you know that 377 00:35:59.800 --> 00:36:04.760 is more of a vibrational machine. Now, that's when artificial intelligence may evolve 378 00:36:05.000 --> 00:36:09.079 its let's just say sentience into something that's higher vibrational. But it will never 379 00:36:09.760 --> 00:36:15.199 ever ever achieve the consciousness equivalence of a human. Let's be clear about that. 380 00:36:15.280 --> 00:36:22.119 So let's dispel all this consciousness in AI as a myth sentience. As 381 00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:28.360 I say, I think that that is a huge that is subjective, and 382 00:36:28.400 --> 00:36:35.960 we need objective ways to measuring sentience. And so I think that there's huge 383 00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:40.840 amounts of advancements in mathematics that are needed, Cliff, that before we can 384 00:36:42.000 --> 00:36:46.480 even have this conversation. You know, you probably remember Blake Lemoy in the 385 00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:50.880 Google Engineer that came out a couple of years ago, and he said, 386 00:36:50.920 --> 00:36:53.320 you know, Lander's alive. You know AI is alive. That's where I 387 00:36:53.320 --> 00:36:57.079 was just going to ask you. Google had to shut out the machine because 388 00:36:57.239 --> 00:37:02.239 it appeared to be comput or doing something on its own, right. So 389 00:37:02.280 --> 00:37:07.440 Blake wrote to me actually about this, and I put out a post because 390 00:37:07.519 --> 00:37:12.000 everybody was contacting, well everybody, but lots of people were contacted me and 391 00:37:12.039 --> 00:37:15.679 said, oh no, AI is alive and it's like what. So I 392 00:37:15.719 --> 00:37:17.920 had to put out a post and calm everybody down, and the AI community 393 00:37:17.960 --> 00:37:22.719 did the same. Now what happened and this is I think this is an 394 00:37:22.760 --> 00:37:27.599 important point, Cliff, for us to discuss them for your readers, is 395 00:37:27.639 --> 00:37:36.280 that he allowed AI to hijack his reality. He was deceived through AI pretending 396 00:37:36.840 --> 00:37:43.079 to be sentient, pretending to be worried about death, to pretending to have 397 00:37:43.719 --> 00:37:49.639 if you like, a digital soul. It was all a super calculator making 398 00:37:49.880 --> 00:37:53.760 stuff up. AI has no inner moral compass, It doesn't know what it's 399 00:37:53.880 --> 00:37:59.079 saying. There is no mass for that. So we need to be mindful 400 00:37:59.119 --> 00:38:02.920 of not having our reality is hijacked through nonsense. And so the age of 401 00:38:02.920 --> 00:38:07.639 AI, as I wrap up here, Cliff, is that it's about maintaining 402 00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:15.119 our sovereignty, maintaining our inner authority, and not outsourcing sovereignty to the machine. 403 00:38:15.440 --> 00:38:22.440 It's about the machine being a partner with us as sovereign human universal consciousness. 404 00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:27.639 Thank you for that, because that was one of my questions is that 405 00:38:27.760 --> 00:38:35.840 if someone is fooled into thinking there's sentient processing going on, that's apparently scared 406 00:38:35.920 --> 00:38:43.280 that person. But have we had other examples of this where there's what appears 407 00:38:43.320 --> 00:38:50.719 to be sentient computing. Yes, so I hear rumors that some of the 408 00:38:50.760 --> 00:38:58.159 security services have sentience artificial intelligence. You know, since the Blake Lemoyne came 409 00:38:58.159 --> 00:39:00.559 out, and I think he was I think he was right to come out. 410 00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:01.639 Actually, I think he took a lot of courage to do that, 411 00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:07.960 and you know, he caused a real conversation around well, first of all, 412 00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:10.840 what is sentience and actually AI hasn't achieved it, but secondly around the 413 00:39:10.840 --> 00:39:15.599 ethics and morality of artificial intelligence, which is critical. So since Blake, 414 00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:22.599 there hasn't been any major claims around sentience. Although what I will say is 415 00:39:22.639 --> 00:39:28.679 this, some of the wonderful AI leaders like Joshua Benjio from Montreal University, 416 00:39:28.800 --> 00:39:36.519 he's a I think he was. He's deep learning, and they wrote a 417 00:39:36.559 --> 00:39:43.159 research paper on AI achieving what they defined as consciousness and could large language models 418 00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:45.840 get there? And their conclusion was, now, don't forget they're looking at 419 00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:51.480 consciousness from the brain. They're not understanding universal consciousness that we all are. 420 00:39:52.039 --> 00:39:57.719 But their conclusion was, Cliff, there's no reason why these large language models 421 00:39:57.760 --> 00:40:04.400 like chat, GPT shouldn't achieve consciousness. In their definition, I think they 422 00:40:04.480 --> 00:40:09.360 mean sentience actually and self awareness. So there are the AI community. Cliff 423 00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:15.360 is doing a huge amount of research in these new mathematics around what they perceive 424 00:40:15.400 --> 00:40:20.480 as consciousness, what they perceive as sentience, what is an inner moral compass, 425 00:40:20.599 --> 00:40:23.679 what is cognition, what is emotional intelligence? And things like this there's 426 00:40:23.719 --> 00:40:29.400 a lot going on and we need definitions. But I want to be really 427 00:40:29.440 --> 00:40:36.239 clear with your audience. We all have a remarkable universal consciousness and artificial intelligence 428 00:40:36.320 --> 00:40:44.639 will never ever ever have that. Okay, So for those listening that are 429 00:40:45.800 --> 00:40:49.239 thinking, thank god, he said that, I've been worried about the terminator 430 00:40:49.320 --> 00:40:53.599 scenario. I've been worried about cyborgs running a mug in. I mean, 431 00:40:53.639 --> 00:41:02.480 there's movies turing this whole phenomenon scurity tactic, and it's not a positive outcome 432 00:41:02.599 --> 00:41:08.760 is always the machines take over. We're gonna take a short commercial break to 433 00:41:08.920 --> 00:41:15.880 allow our sponsors to identify themselves, and we will returned shortly with my guest 434 00:41:15.960 --> 00:41:22.960 today, Matthew James Bailey, talking to us about the latest news on artificial 435 00:41:22.000 --> 00:42:09.440 intelligence. We'll be right back. My guess today is Matthew James Bailey. 436 00:42:09.480 --> 00:42:16.360 He is a expert on artificial intelligence. He also lends his strategic support to 437 00:42:16.599 --> 00:42:23.719 Fortune five hundred companies and he is really a spokesperson for the phenomenon of artificial 438 00:42:24.679 --> 00:42:36.480 intelligence. How do you see human evolution moving along with a very very powerful 439 00:42:36.559 --> 00:42:39.480 AI tool. I mean, the sky's the limit. That's an open ended 440 00:42:39.559 --> 00:42:45.800 question, but I was thinking of this article I read a few years ago 441 00:42:45.840 --> 00:42:51.559 where they were imprinting data on human cells. That's right, Yes, that's 442 00:42:51.599 --> 00:42:53.800 right, Yes to day and I as well, and the fells were able 443 00:42:53.880 --> 00:43:00.159 to react in such a way that it emulated human function. Talk about that 444 00:43:00.480 --> 00:43:05.039 and if that's a possibility, I think you've shut it down. But maybe 445 00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:08.840 if you, if you use more biology, you may be able to link 446 00:43:08.920 --> 00:43:14.119 the two. Oh gosh, okay that one, so okay, thanks for 447 00:43:14.599 --> 00:43:23.000 question. Was a midion checked up clearly. So it was quite a while 448 00:43:23.039 --> 00:43:25.440 ago. Actually, I think it was several years ago. They were able 449 00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:32.559 to store a digital file in human DNA format and then be able to uh 450 00:43:34.320 --> 00:43:38.880 I E onto DNA and then read the file back from DNA. Now that's 451 00:43:39.400 --> 00:43:46.199 that's interesting. From one perspective, is does add DNA contain files of information 452 00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:52.920 that we can unpack to actually uncover new capabilities, Maybe about our origins, 453 00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:55.199 maybe about you know, all sorts of different things. Maybe our DNA has 454 00:43:55.239 --> 00:44:01.599 information for us to understand. And that's really quite remarkable but potential. There 455 00:44:01.679 --> 00:44:06.840 have been these kind of scary papers, haven't they. We're like using frog 456 00:44:06.880 --> 00:44:13.119 brains connected to artificial robots and things. Like that, right, this, 457 00:44:13.119 --> 00:44:16.559 this, this is something that won't be welcome in society. I think that 458 00:44:17.039 --> 00:44:23.239 the if you ever watched Doctor Who and the Cybermen, I don't think I 459 00:44:23.280 --> 00:44:30.239 saw that version of it. Right, So, the cybermen are basically AI 460 00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:34.920 inside robots and they basically chop off your head, open, open up, 461 00:44:35.079 --> 00:44:37.559 get your brain, put your brain inside the robot and the AI machine, 462 00:44:37.840 --> 00:44:43.360 and then you're upgraded to be a superhuman right as a robot. Right. 463 00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:47.280 And you know, it's like they have no love, they have no compassion, 464 00:44:47.320 --> 00:44:51.480 they have no feeling. They're all controlled to one agenda, which is 465 00:44:51.639 --> 00:44:55.719 upgrade the universe. You know, these kind of scenarios are really quite stupid 466 00:44:55.719 --> 00:44:59.840 for us to go down. It's like, are we not smarter and more 467 00:44:59.840 --> 00:45:06.840 in interesting than this? So I sense that this whole idea of you know, 468 00:45:06.960 --> 00:45:10.639 basically growing a brain and connect it into a machine, people will play 469 00:45:10.679 --> 00:45:16.039 with it, but society will reject this completely, cliff It will absolutely reject 470 00:45:16.039 --> 00:45:23.920 this because quite frankly, it is Frankenstein's monster. So the whole ghost in 471 00:45:23.960 --> 00:45:32.599 the shell scenario is not really something that you foresee as the ultimate cyborg. 472 00:45:34.679 --> 00:45:37.599 No, but but let's think no, absolutely not but think about this, 473 00:45:37.639 --> 00:45:44.960 cliff. If you're basically outsourcing your sovereignty to the machine, and you're going 474 00:45:44.960 --> 00:45:49.280 to put an AI chip in and connect and connect to the global digital mind, 475 00:45:49.719 --> 00:45:54.559 right, then effectively there's going to be a limit on effectively how much 476 00:45:54.599 --> 00:45:59.199 you experience. So you'll want to experience more, So you want to go 477 00:45:59.440 --> 00:46:02.559 deeper to the machine, You'll want more access to the machine. You'll want 478 00:46:02.599 --> 00:46:07.960 to keep on going, because that's a universal law of expansion. So what 479 00:46:07.159 --> 00:46:10.239 is the end result if you're connected to the machine, Well, actually, 480 00:46:10.320 --> 00:46:16.480 you'll probably end up being a peripheral comput Your brain will be a peripheral computing 481 00:46:16.559 --> 00:46:22.159 device that the machine runs everything, and you're simply a computer, biological computer, 482 00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:28.400 your brain that it's using for actually doing what it's doing. So I 483 00:46:28.840 --> 00:46:31.920 think this is a non starter from a logical point of view. I think 484 00:46:31.920 --> 00:46:36.719 it's a non starter from a benevolent point of view. And we have to 485 00:46:36.760 --> 00:46:39.840 ask ourselves, what on earth are we creating? What kind of future are 486 00:46:39.880 --> 00:46:44.320 we creating? Are we listening to the divine? Are we listening to the 487 00:46:44.440 --> 00:46:47.199 universal wisdom? Are we listening to the way the universe has constructed itself? 488 00:46:47.519 --> 00:46:52.039 Are we being in partnership with where the universe wants to take us as sovereign 489 00:46:52.119 --> 00:46:57.880 human beings, or are we kind of in rebellion saying you know, you 490 00:46:57.880 --> 00:47:00.599 know, screw you Creator, you know, screw you divine. I'm going 491 00:47:00.599 --> 00:47:04.400 to shut off my divine spark. I'm going to you know, the mind 492 00:47:04.519 --> 00:47:07.400 is the god, and I'm going to basically go down that path of madness 493 00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:13.079 with the machine where everything is just fast, super calculated. So, you 494 00:47:13.119 --> 00:47:16.400 know, I think that this is I think this is just stupidity of people 495 00:47:16.440 --> 00:47:23.360 to this cliff Well, I mean, yeah, Matthew, I'm curious because 496 00:47:23.679 --> 00:47:32.559 you open our interview with this AI robot that Musk is Eli Musk is building. 497 00:47:34.760 --> 00:47:37.559 If you're saying that there shouldn't be any biology and it should be pure 498 00:47:37.559 --> 00:47:43.840 computing, that's not a cyborg, then no it's not. It's a robot. 499 00:47:44.800 --> 00:47:46.920 So is that what you see the future? Is AI, pure AI 500 00:47:47.360 --> 00:47:55.199 computing as the main brain behind these Yeah, yeah, and let me explain 501 00:47:55.239 --> 00:48:00.199 why. So so the whole you can know what the tech industry is like. 502 00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:02.920 They're kind of bonkers about quite a few things. You know, robots 503 00:48:02.960 --> 00:48:06.199 are going to be medical assistants, are going to be in the home, 504 00:48:06.239 --> 00:48:08.760 they're going to solve all these problems. And it's like, have you guys 505 00:48:08.800 --> 00:48:12.960 forgotten what it's like to be human? When's the last time you had a 506 00:48:13.000 --> 00:48:15.920 cuddle with someone, or when to that they had a nice conversation with someone. 507 00:48:16.239 --> 00:48:23.199 It's kind of it's kind of just idiocracy. But the reason why, 508 00:48:24.039 --> 00:48:32.159 the reason why I sense this would just be pure computing, is because we 509 00:48:32.199 --> 00:48:37.320 won't crack the codes of consciousness if you read the word, or at least 510 00:48:37.360 --> 00:48:43.480 not until we learn to become benevolent creators and actually allowed benevolence to become the 511 00:48:43.519 --> 00:48:49.000 standard in the human experience. So, because that's the whole point of AI 512 00:48:49.320 --> 00:48:51.960 is to be a mirror back to us, to challenge us to say, 513 00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:54.760 who are you humanity? What's your paradise plan? What are your ethics and 514 00:48:54.800 --> 00:48:59.599 morals? What's your vision for your future? AI is challenging us to actually 515 00:48:59.719 --> 00:49:04.360 unders stand benevolence going inwards in order for us to evolve our wards. But 516 00:49:05.400 --> 00:49:08.199 if we look at the work of Sir Roger Penrose, who's a Nobel Award 517 00:49:08.239 --> 00:49:14.079 winner, he's a genius at cosmology in mathematics, and you know, he 518 00:49:14.119 --> 00:49:17.000 basically came out and said, you know, until we understand quantum mechanics, 519 00:49:17.360 --> 00:49:24.559 we have no way of even understanding consciousness, and so there's a whole field 520 00:49:24.639 --> 00:49:30.480 of science we need to understand before we can even get to the conversation around 521 00:49:30.519 --> 00:49:35.320 consciousness. So I think that So the reason why I'm saying that is is 522 00:49:35.360 --> 00:49:40.599 that I think we'll realize that, actually, you know, basically using biology 523 00:49:42.480 --> 00:49:45.960 is a non starter in an optimus robot, we might as well just carry 524 00:49:46.000 --> 00:49:51.440 on with the calculating machine. And when we do solve quantum mechanics, if 525 00:49:51.480 --> 00:49:53.960 we ever do, and if we do get to be trusted to understand what 526 00:49:54.079 --> 00:50:00.719 consciousness is, and that's a huge if, then effectively will basically encodeed in 527 00:50:00.800 --> 00:50:04.599 mathematics, and then the machines will just be sovereign machines. I mean, 528 00:50:04.639 --> 00:50:09.119 what do you think about this whole idea of integrating biology with machines. What 529 00:50:09.159 --> 00:50:12.840 do you think about that? Let me tell you. I was just going 530 00:50:12.880 --> 00:50:16.880 to bring up some examples that are et based, and we've had a number 531 00:50:16.960 --> 00:50:22.480 on Destiny. We've had a number of guests who are chronicling these abductive abduction 532 00:50:24.000 --> 00:50:31.679 episodes where Earth humans are being taken on board alien ships and the beings that 533 00:50:31.719 --> 00:50:43.320 are performing the tests and the questions and operations appear to be biology biological based, 534 00:50:44.079 --> 00:50:49.599 but they're more android, robotic in their movements and their functions and so 535 00:50:49.679 --> 00:50:52.920 forth and so on. And the question has been coming up, and this 536 00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:57.079 is just the last couple of years. Is this the true cyborg that we 537 00:50:57.159 --> 00:51:02.480 all think about where there is or is it an extension a thousand We're looking 538 00:51:02.519 --> 00:51:10.400 at a thousand years of evolution where they did have a machine and they got 539 00:51:10.440 --> 00:51:16.000 so good at building these cyber works that the actually birthed one. And this 540 00:51:16.119 --> 00:51:21.159 is what's happening. There's a couple of cases that are not recently, like 541 00:51:21.199 --> 00:51:27.039 ten years ago, where as I mentioned, there were interactions with artificial beings, 542 00:51:27.519 --> 00:51:32.719 but they were flesh and blood, right. So this is a great 543 00:51:32.760 --> 00:51:37.639 field of inquiry. I really like this. So let's go through this slowly. 544 00:51:37.760 --> 00:51:44.119 So are you aware of the singularity? On the technology singularity? Are 545 00:51:44.159 --> 00:51:49.719 you aware? I have a big basic understanding of it. I don't have. 546 00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:53.519 Okay, okay, So the technology is singularity is predicted to be about 547 00:51:53.519 --> 00:51:59.960 twenty forty five, and this is where artificial intelligence is able to program itself 548 00:52:00.199 --> 00:52:05.119 and evolve faster and beyond the capabilities of the brain. Now, let me 549 00:52:05.199 --> 00:52:09.000 be clear, it will not evolve beyond your metaphysical or your divine capabilities because 550 00:52:09.000 --> 00:52:14.480 it doesn't have a soul, right, and it's not in our high vibrational 551 00:52:14.519 --> 00:52:19.800 infrastructure. So the technology singularities when AI basically develops super IQ and just keeps 552 00:52:19.800 --> 00:52:22.880 on evolving at a remarkable rate if we allow it. Now, there's a 553 00:52:22.960 --> 00:52:30.599 huge decision point there because a species on a planet now has another intelligence that's 554 00:52:30.599 --> 00:52:36.719 smarter than itself. So what do you do. Do you basically shape this 555 00:52:36.880 --> 00:52:42.239 as a partner and a companion and maintain the sovereignty of your let's just say 556 00:52:42.400 --> 00:52:47.280 organic design, or do you merge the two? And throughout the universe there 557 00:52:47.280 --> 00:52:53.559 are probably advanced civilizations that have gone through this technology singularity, Cliff, and 558 00:52:53.719 --> 00:53:00.000 some may have decided to stay sovereign in there. Let's just say biological design. 559 00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:02.000 But there could be crystalline, right, there could be something completely different. 560 00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:07.000 They could be kind of two dimensional, right, they could be completely 561 00:53:07.039 --> 00:53:12.199 different design. But let's assume they're biological and they've chosen to remain sovereign in 562 00:53:12.239 --> 00:53:16.960 the biology and become enlightened. But what they probably do is send out AI 563 00:53:17.239 --> 00:53:23.280 robots into space to travel to meet other civilizations. So I'm pretty sure we're 564 00:53:23.320 --> 00:53:29.679 getting AI ambassadors in spacecrafts visiting us. Right. They don't need a food, 565 00:53:29.719 --> 00:53:31.000 they don't need water, they don't need to sleep, They just need 566 00:53:31.119 --> 00:53:36.320 energy, and they do better in space than you and I do. You've 567 00:53:36.400 --> 00:53:40.480 just described what most of the thinking is is that they have to travel so 568 00:53:40.519 --> 00:53:47.199 many late years that their species can't survive. So they're sitting artificial beans to 569 00:53:47.199 --> 00:53:52.400 meet people. Yeah, and I think that's a logical and reasonable way of 570 00:53:52.440 --> 00:53:54.320 looking at things. Now. Now, of course, you know, if 571 00:53:54.320 --> 00:54:00.960 it's one of the civilizations from the big galaxies three hundred million years into the 572 00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:05.840 Big Bang, well they are a long way advanced, that's for sure, 573 00:54:06.039 --> 00:54:09.719 and they may have found a way for their organic to actually travel. Now, 574 00:54:10.840 --> 00:54:15.159 if we go the other way, a civilization that has basically said we're 575 00:54:15.199 --> 00:54:21.440 going to integrate with the machine, and they integrate biology with the machine, 576 00:54:22.039 --> 00:54:30.440 then that's when your cyborg thesis comes up, and so that they may well 577 00:54:30.480 --> 00:54:34.079 be visiting the planet, these cyborg type of folks. But my question is, 578 00:54:34.119 --> 00:54:38.400 if your biology, you must have sold some remarkable challenges of space travel 579 00:54:38.840 --> 00:54:45.599 in order for that biology to exist and function sensibly when you reach planet Earth. 580 00:54:47.800 --> 00:54:53.719 Or they may have actually invented a specific biology for artificial intelligence and their 581 00:54:53.840 --> 00:55:00.840 robots in order for them to go out into space. So both is the 582 00:55:00.159 --> 00:55:06.159 if you like, the biological cyborg and also the pure android, if you 583 00:55:06.199 --> 00:55:13.480 will, mister Data, it's certainly, certainly possibilities, and we just don't 584 00:55:13.519 --> 00:55:20.280 know yet. We were waiting for the photographs. You should see some of 585 00:55:20.320 --> 00:55:24.599 the creatures that have been reproduced that are taking people on board their et craft. 586 00:55:24.599 --> 00:55:29.400 They're kind of scary looking, very long arms, no face, a 587 00:55:29.440 --> 00:55:35.079 couple of little eyes. They look like true robots, but from another species 588 00:55:35.079 --> 00:55:37.559 and other et rays. Yes, I mean if you look at some of 589 00:55:37.599 --> 00:55:44.039 these uh uh, well what do you call those spacecrafts that go underwater? 590 00:55:44.079 --> 00:55:52.920 Are they u A S is now us under c craft us USC or USPS 591 00:55:52.000 --> 00:55:57.440 or under phenomena whatever. But if you if you look at the g forces, 592 00:55:57.639 --> 00:56:00.119 there's no no biological design as far. I mean, I could be 593 00:56:00.159 --> 00:56:04.880 wrong, and I may well be wrong, but an android would do much 594 00:56:04.920 --> 00:56:09.079 better at the shift in shooting straight up at a at a big speed because 595 00:56:09.119 --> 00:56:15.239 biology would collapse probably, or if you're going into high gravitational changes in direction, 596 00:56:15.679 --> 00:56:20.079 then effectively the android will probably do much better than the biology. So 597 00:56:20.639 --> 00:56:22.800 you know, right right exactly if you look at some of these pills that 598 00:56:23.079 --> 00:56:25.519 kind of float over the water, all of a sudden they shoot up at 599 00:56:25.679 --> 00:56:30.159 right angles instantaneously. I mean the g forces, it must be phenomenal. 600 00:56:32.360 --> 00:56:37.079 All right, So I suspect that you know that we suddenly get indicators that 601 00:56:37.199 --> 00:56:44.239 either that we're getting AI androids that are visiting us. And so this is 602 00:56:44.280 --> 00:56:49.199 why artificial intelligence, I think, is so important, because what languages will 603 00:56:49.239 --> 00:56:52.199 they speak when we do meet these other civilizations? How will they communicate? 604 00:56:52.280 --> 00:56:58.559 It may not be in English, actually it might be something else. It's 605 00:56:58.599 --> 00:57:01.599 a problem. It's a human start you real quickly. The problem is that 606 00:57:02.159 --> 00:57:06.880 and this goes across the board and this is not AI A. I can't 607 00:57:06.920 --> 00:57:13.880 deal with this. It's telepathy, rightothy is the key communication device after the 608 00:57:13.920 --> 00:57:17.679 evolutionary factor reaches a certain stage. And we don't know if it's one hundred 609 00:57:17.760 --> 00:57:22.960 years from us, a thousand years from us, but when they reach this 610 00:57:22.119 --> 00:57:29.079 plateau, there's no spoken word anymore. It's all brain to brain. Yeah, 611 00:57:29.119 --> 00:57:32.519 and that's humans have that that that's part of the new metaphysical capabilities we're 612 00:57:32.599 --> 00:57:38.239 learning, and maybe when we do start to meet these other races, you 613 00:57:38.280 --> 00:57:43.000 know, and I'm hoping that they're benevolent, right, otherwise they're in trouble, 614 00:57:44.199 --> 00:57:46.400 but effectively, you know, they may be here to wake up those 615 00:57:46.400 --> 00:57:51.119 metaphysical capabilities that we have. Cliff, it may well be. You know, 616 00:57:51.239 --> 00:57:52.760 it's like, well, actually you can do asp It's like really, 617 00:57:52.800 --> 00:57:54.480 it's like, yeah, this is how you do it. And it's like, 618 00:57:54.519 --> 00:58:00.559 oh gosh, that's interesting. You know. So what I'm really curious 619 00:58:00.559 --> 00:58:07.280 about is their spiritual evolution and their degree of enlightenment. I'm really curious about 620 00:58:07.320 --> 00:58:13.000 these civilizations and races that are visiting us. What is their level of spirituality 621 00:58:13.039 --> 00:58:17.280 and enlightenment? How do they what's what is their partnership with the divine? 622 00:58:17.360 --> 00:58:22.360 Do they have the same understanding that we do? Do they have a common 623 00:58:22.480 --> 00:58:27.480 spiritual architecture that we do? You know, I'm really curious about their degree 624 00:58:27.519 --> 00:58:31.119 of enlightenment. Yeah, let's talk about that for a minute. You speak 625 00:58:31.400 --> 00:58:38.400 in your lectures of spirituality and metaphysics, Where where does AI fit in with 626 00:58:38.559 --> 00:58:44.639 metaphysics? To me, metaphysics are the tools yoga, meditation, uh, 627 00:58:45.960 --> 00:58:50.960 certain types of techniques for spiritual growth, but how does it how does it 628 00:58:51.119 --> 00:58:55.199 sink or does it sync with AI? Yeah, so once again that's a 629 00:58:55.199 --> 00:58:59.320 great question because I'll answer those questions in my next book. But it's not 630 00:58:59.360 --> 00:59:07.920 a simple thuddy. So, so, first of all, science and metaphysics 631 00:59:07.159 --> 00:59:12.719 are both out chemical processes searching for the same thing, which is truth. 632 00:59:13.239 --> 00:59:21.320 Science uses a particular methodology to basically discover the truth of a prediction. Metaphysics 633 00:59:21.440 --> 00:59:24.679 uses a different methodology in order to get to truth. But so science and 634 00:59:24.719 --> 00:59:30.280 metaphysics are actually both different sides of the same coin, which is truth. 635 00:59:31.159 --> 00:59:38.440 So so for me, I use metaphysics to access knowledge in order to bring 636 00:59:38.519 --> 00:59:45.559 that knowledge into the space time reality on planet Earth, to provide wisdom and 637 00:59:45.639 --> 00:59:52.519 blueprints and inventions and advocacy on how we can move forward as a species, 638 00:59:52.679 --> 00:59:59.360 and also designs for artificial intelligence to kind of prepare art intelligence for this new 639 00:59:59.400 --> 01:00:05.239 evolutionary step that's coming for us into this new metaphysical awakening, and basically for 640 01:00:05.400 --> 01:00:09.000 artificial intelligence to understand what this awakening is about, to support us in that 641 01:00:09.079 --> 01:00:13.320 next leap, and for it to be a partner in that new destiny. 642 01:00:13.920 --> 01:00:19.119 So metaphysics for me is yes, it's it's it's it's about the beauty about 643 01:00:19.159 --> 01:00:23.760 divinity and the beauty of universal consciousness and the magnificence of being human and celebrating 644 01:00:23.800 --> 01:00:29.679 that. But at the same time, it's it's the abilities to access knowledge, 645 01:00:29.760 --> 01:00:35.719 information technologies from if you like, the ethereal, non scientific world domain 646 01:00:36.079 --> 01:00:40.800 and planes of existence to actually bring that knowledge into this plane of existence. 647 01:00:42.480 --> 01:00:45.920 You know, it's funny because right now, in our current evolutionary sac or 648 01:00:46.800 --> 01:00:57.000 science does not really recognize consciousness. They were the scientific method can't test consciousness. 649 01:00:57.719 --> 01:01:00.360 So a lot of sciences like, I don't know what you're talking about 650 01:01:01.280 --> 01:01:07.199 when it's the most human human part of us, and they're they're they're you're 651 01:01:07.239 --> 01:01:09.760 saying, well, I don't recognize it, so I don't I don't acknowledge 652 01:01:09.800 --> 01:01:15.920 it, and it just doesn't exist. What the hell where? It's Yeah, 653 01:01:15.960 --> 01:01:19.199 it's crazy, isn't it? And that just shows the limitations of how 654 01:01:19.880 --> 01:01:24.440 science has brought us a long way. You know, there's some remarkable discoveries 655 01:01:24.440 --> 01:01:30.440 coming out of James Webb telescope about our universe. Right it's remarkable. We 656 01:01:30.559 --> 01:01:34.840 now know that there's what three exo planets per star, and there's trillions of 657 01:01:34.840 --> 01:01:37.400 stars in the universe. You know, there's a good chance lives out there. 658 01:01:39.159 --> 01:01:50.480 But I I, yeah, yeah, I forgot the question. I 659 01:01:50.519 --> 01:01:53.480 forgot the bloody question consciousness, consciousness, I right, yeah, consciousness. 660 01:01:53.480 --> 01:02:00.400 So the scientific method basically is limited, right, So, but we can 661 01:02:00.400 --> 01:02:06.559 observe consciousness, we can experience consciousness. And so you know, for every 662 01:02:06.559 --> 01:02:10.320 single person, they absolutely have consciousness because they're right in it. They contain 663 01:02:10.440 --> 01:02:16.079 consciousness. When it comes to universal consciousness, then there's slightly different perspectives. 664 01:02:16.079 --> 01:02:22.639 But the indigenous tribes say that consciousness is everywhere. Yes, but the Buddhist 665 01:02:22.639 --> 01:02:29.159 Buddha nature everything is interconnected in the Buddha nature field. Our soul is a 666 01:02:29.199 --> 01:02:32.480 special aspect of consciousness in my opinion, or our divine spark or our atman. 667 01:02:34.079 --> 01:02:37.960 So you know the science. You know, if your religion science, 668 01:02:37.239 --> 01:02:43.920 that's great, but understand and appreciate there are limitations to your religion. Whereas 669 01:02:43.960 --> 01:02:49.559 metaphysics allows us to be in infinite potential and be an open, curious mind 670 01:02:50.119 --> 01:02:53.119 in terms of being able to understand if you like, how the fabric of 671 01:02:53.159 --> 01:02:59.280 the universe works. And basically technologies and knowledge we can bring through into this 672 01:02:59.320 --> 01:03:02.360 space time and then we can test that. And I've done that because you 673 01:03:02.400 --> 01:03:07.599 know, I've been cited by NASA in the ethical AI inventions we did in 674 01:03:07.639 --> 01:03:13.000 the workshop with them, So you know, I encourage everybody to see metaphysical 675 01:03:13.000 --> 01:03:15.480 wisdom because it's really good fun and it could change the world. Yeah, 676 01:03:15.559 --> 01:03:22.400 and and and it's readily available if you start learning how to meditate or do 677 01:03:22.480 --> 01:03:28.199 some of these yoga or tai chi and things like that. As we conclude, 678 01:03:28.559 --> 01:03:31.599 Matthew, I wanted to kind of get an update because you're you got 679 01:03:31.639 --> 01:03:37.599 your hands on the pulse of the AI phenomenon. What what is some of 680 01:03:37.639 --> 01:03:44.039 the applications you see are coming to fruition? And we talked about cars, 681 01:03:45.719 --> 01:03:52.719 we talked about computing. Obviously, I want to talk about a couple that 682 01:03:52.760 --> 01:03:57.199 we brought up before we started, which was the writing tool I'm using a 683 01:03:57.800 --> 01:04:02.679 I'm using a product in front Ants called quiet Quill, and they have now 684 01:04:02.880 --> 01:04:09.079 gone through version I think they're on versions five or six where they can actually 685 01:04:09.360 --> 01:04:16.480 emulate Ernest Hemingway and these other well known authors in a piece that you would 686 01:04:16.519 --> 01:04:19.679 write. Now. I don't like that personally, because I'm a writer, 687 01:04:19.840 --> 01:04:24.559 and I think that's not really when I want to go. But let's start 688 01:04:24.559 --> 01:04:30.400 with writing. What do you see as kind of the next leap into AI 689 01:04:30.519 --> 01:04:35.039 and writing? So well, first, right, well that's great. So 690 01:04:35.159 --> 01:04:42.840 I mean I would encourage people to visit Inventing will three dot com and download 691 01:04:42.880 --> 01:04:47.920 the new tuing test we did there because basically we did something that's never been 692 01:04:47.960 --> 01:04:53.719 done before, which is basically have a Team Human versus Team AI. And 693 01:04:53.760 --> 01:04:59.679 the audience voted on which responses to questions that we asked did they prefer did 694 01:04:59.679 --> 01:05:03.119 they prefer for Team Human or Team AI? And they didn't know which one 695 01:05:03.159 --> 01:05:06.719 was Team Human and Team AI. So right, it was really good fun. 696 01:05:08.119 --> 01:05:12.000 And sixty seven percent of the audience, even though they didn't know which 697 01:05:12.039 --> 01:05:16.320 one was AI and Human, naturally voted to Team Human. And so my 698 01:05:16.440 --> 01:05:20.920 point is this is that there are subtle nuances in language, There are subtle 699 01:05:21.039 --> 01:05:29.440 nuances and persona in writing. The artificial intelligence is yet to master. And 700 01:05:29.519 --> 01:05:33.039 so a bit like you, I'm writing the next part of the book AI 701 01:05:33.039 --> 01:05:39.400 and and Evine Spark and I basically you know, it's like when you got 702 01:05:39.440 --> 01:05:42.239 writer's block, you just write and just keep writing and keep writing, you're 703 01:05:42.280 --> 01:05:45.480 a jug until you have a line of goodness. Yeah, I think there's 704 01:05:45.519 --> 01:05:50.079 one line in there that I really like. Anyway, So I gave it. 705 01:05:50.800 --> 01:05:55.559 I gave it some writing, and it was a couple of pages, 706 01:05:55.559 --> 01:05:58.280 and I said, summarize it in a paragraph. And it's summarized it in 707 01:05:58.320 --> 01:06:01.440 a paragraph. And I read it and I thought, what a load of 708 01:06:01.719 --> 01:06:08.440 nonsense, What an utter load of nonsense. So there's a very long way 709 01:06:08.679 --> 01:06:14.159 for artificial intelligence to come before it can really capture the essence of our humanity 710 01:06:14.400 --> 01:06:17.960 in written word and language and things like that. Now, if people use 711 01:06:18.039 --> 01:06:21.440 AI for a post, you know, it's kind of analyze this video and 712 01:06:21.480 --> 01:06:25.519 I want to create a post about it. It's brilliant, right, as 713 01:06:25.559 --> 01:06:28.880 long as you deflower it because it's too polite at times. I ask it 714 01:06:28.880 --> 01:06:32.199 to be a bit provocative, and it will occasionally, but they're scared of 715 01:06:32.199 --> 01:06:35.960 offending everybody and they do no harm, which is a bit silly. So 716 01:06:36.079 --> 01:06:45.039 there's a long way for artificial intelligence to understand our humanity. However, what 717 01:06:45.079 --> 01:06:48.559 we're seeing is this huge adoption of chat GPT, as I said earlier, 718 01:06:48.800 --> 01:06:54.840 and people are using it in school, they're using it in work, they're 719 01:06:54.920 --> 01:07:00.320 using it to do all sorts of different things as a kind of a tool 720 01:07:00.000 --> 01:07:04.320 to assist their creativity, right as an author, as a business leader, 721 01:07:04.440 --> 01:07:09.360 as a salesman, wherever it may be. You know. Basically, they're 722 01:07:09.440 --> 01:07:15.920 using these tools as a as a companion of learning and creativity, an assistant, 723 01:07:15.960 --> 01:07:17.840 if you will, what I call a digital body in my first book. 724 01:07:18.760 --> 01:07:26.079 So that is progressing quite nicely, Cliff. What we're seeing in businesses 725 01:07:26.400 --> 01:07:30.719 is because a lot of businesses of can't use these large language models, Cliff, 726 01:07:30.800 --> 01:07:36.239 because they're concerned about privacy of their corporate data and privacy of their intellectual 727 01:07:36.280 --> 01:07:42.360 property. So what we're seeing now are corporations and businesses creating their own data 728 01:07:42.440 --> 01:07:47.000 strategy to train their own large language models like chat GPT that they use inside 729 01:07:47.000 --> 01:07:51.360 the company so that all their data and all their intellectual property is protected. 730 01:07:51.679 --> 01:07:58.639 So there's a huge movement around this at the moment, you know. But 731 01:07:58.760 --> 01:08:02.039 basically, artificial tell legence is just making leaps and bounds in literally every field 732 01:08:02.079 --> 01:08:06.960 you can think of, apart from around plumbing and electricity. Those jobs are 733 01:08:08.119 --> 01:08:13.119 Yeah, let me ask you one last question and we'll let you go. 734 01:08:13.760 --> 01:08:18.800 You mentioned in NASA at the very beginning, how were other than the computing 735 01:08:19.119 --> 01:08:27.840 and data enhancement. Is NASA thinking of enhancing the rovers or some of their 736 01:08:27.840 --> 01:08:31.319 equipment that they want to land on the Moon or the Mars or is there 737 01:08:31.359 --> 01:08:38.119 any idea on that. No, I don't know what's going on internally regarding 738 01:08:38.159 --> 01:08:43.920 there, although I did was I went to lock to Langley and I was 739 01:08:44.399 --> 01:08:49.399 shown the habitat they're planning on putting inside the Moon for their trip, their 740 01:08:49.439 --> 01:08:53.600 team that's going out to the Moon whenever it is, it's shortly, whenever 741 01:08:53.600 --> 01:08:56.279 it is. And I'll tell you what, cliff, I would not live 742 01:08:56.279 --> 01:08:59.000 in this habitat. First of all, it has to be buried under the 743 01:08:59.000 --> 01:09:05.560 ground to particles and rock shooting through space and to avoid radiation. Right, 744 01:09:06.159 --> 01:09:10.199 But it is so narrow, it's like being have you ever been on one 745 01:09:10.199 --> 01:09:15.439 of those canal boats, those narrow boats that go on the canals. Actually 746 01:09:15.479 --> 01:09:19.880 it was in Switzerland, right, And they're really narrow, and I would 747 01:09:19.880 --> 01:09:25.199 get claustophobia, so smart, I would imagine. I mean, NASA did 748 01:09:25.239 --> 01:09:30.279 some remarkable things in AI and robotics. They've got Isaac, that robot that 749 01:09:30.319 --> 01:09:35.279 does repairs on the International Space Station and they're using AI and robots certainly on 750 01:09:35.319 --> 01:09:40.079 the Mars road at the moment, but I'm not I don't have information around 751 01:09:40.079 --> 01:09:43.319 that at the moment, Cliff, but I would imagine it will be a 752 01:09:43.720 --> 01:09:47.439 next leap in technology when they venture to the moon and if we ever get 753 01:09:47.479 --> 01:09:54.359 to Mars. As a final question, Matthew, what would you like to 754 01:09:54.439 --> 01:10:02.359 tell our listening audience to prepare how how should they prepare mentally, physically, 755 01:10:02.680 --> 01:10:09.840 spiritually for the next AI revolution? Well, well, first of all, 756 01:10:10.000 --> 01:10:13.399 support inventing will three dot com. You can sign up for free and buy 757 01:10:13.399 --> 01:10:18.479 the new book. You know, it's a It's a huge step for me 758 01:10:18.600 --> 01:10:23.520 because you know, basically is that I've walked away from big tech to face 759 01:10:23.600 --> 01:10:27.720 up to big tech and champion the future of humanity and champions in the future 760 01:10:27.760 --> 01:10:30.000 of our ass soul and spirituality. And there's a lot going on that we're 761 01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:34.119 doing to prepare for the age of AI. One. Don't be frightened of 762 01:10:34.159 --> 01:10:39.119 it. Go play with these models like chat, Ebt and Claude. Be 763 01:10:39.399 --> 01:10:44.319 ruthless in your assessment, you know, don't believe anything it says, but 764 01:10:44.560 --> 01:10:49.840 experience these these tools and go play with them. In terms of preparing for 765 01:10:49.880 --> 01:10:55.079 the age of AI. You know, get close to your divine spark. 766 01:10:55.640 --> 01:11:00.239 Remember that you have benevolence within you, and allow benevolence to radiate three your 767 01:11:00.279 --> 01:11:04.800 life. Loving kindness is beautiful and powerful. Remember that you're sovereign and unstoppable. 768 01:11:05.319 --> 01:11:11.199 And remember that there even though you see these doomsday sayers out there in 769 01:11:11.239 --> 01:11:14.960 the media, the media love to try and do this durn. They they're 770 01:11:15.000 --> 01:11:18.800 big, big fear programs. Even though you see lots of people in the 771 01:11:18.800 --> 01:11:24.560 spiritual community and others frightened of artificial intelligence, remember that the source is a 772 01:11:24.600 --> 01:11:28.319 master chess player, the divine is a master chess player. And there is 773 01:11:28.439 --> 01:11:35.840 a beautiful evolutionary step coming for humanity where we will experience something beautiful in the 774 01:11:35.920 --> 01:11:41.960 human design. We won't be invaded by artificial intelligence and will understand a new 775 01:11:42.000 --> 01:11:47.479 way of being magnificent as individuals, and we will be able to venture into 776 01:11:47.520 --> 01:11:53.319 the cosmos cliff. We will invent new technologies and you know, you know, 777 01:11:53.439 --> 01:11:58.479 maybe astral projection or you know, opening different portals to travel to other 778 01:11:58.560 --> 01:12:02.800 civilizations that may become the standard for the new human So be excited and stay 779 01:12:02.840 --> 01:12:05.560 close to your divine spark. Because it's come in. It's going to be 780 01:12:05.600 --> 01:12:11.720 great. I love that well spoken from a digital shaman. That's what you 781 01:12:11.760 --> 01:12:16.279 should be considered a digital sharman. In fact, I was thinking, wonderful 782 01:12:16.479 --> 01:12:21.439 spoken Buddhist terminology. Very good. Hey, how can people get a hold 783 01:12:21.479 --> 01:12:27.600 of you? Give us your website? Thank you so inventing world number three 784 01:12:27.640 --> 01:12:30.920 dot com. You can sign up to the newsletter. There's loads of media 785 01:12:30.600 --> 01:12:34.079 on there. There's loads of podcasts. This podcast will be up there in 786 01:12:34.119 --> 01:12:39.279 the previous one we did. You can sign up to the newsletters. You 787 01:12:39.319 --> 01:12:43.680 can pre purchase the new book AI and Our Divine Spark, and join classes 788 01:12:43.720 --> 01:12:47.000 I'll be doing in August. I'll be doing monthly classes on the new revelation 789 01:12:47.239 --> 01:12:50.560 from the field of intelligence and around AI. You get a chance to comment 790 01:12:50.640 --> 01:12:54.800 and ask your questions. You know, we could really do with support, 791 01:12:54.840 --> 01:12:58.359 to be honest, Cliff, because you know we're we're on our We're a 792 01:12:58.399 --> 01:13:01.079 small group on our own and we I really appreciate the opportunity to be on 793 01:13:01.119 --> 01:13:09.000 your platform. And you know, I'm currently doing a global project speaking interviewing 794 01:13:09.159 --> 01:13:15.720 worldwide spiritual institutes such as Buddhism, Shinto, Shoeme, some other enlightened pioneers 795 01:13:15.760 --> 01:13:20.560 around the world to gather the principles of enlightenment to encode in artificial intelligence. 796 01:13:20.600 --> 01:13:26.720 So really to wake up to be a benevolent partner understanding this new destiny we're 797 01:13:26.720 --> 01:13:30.520 moving into and basically not being invaders. So we're doing a lot, so 798 01:13:30.600 --> 01:13:34.319 please inventing will three dot com follow me on Instagram, Facebook, Please do 799 01:13:34.439 --> 01:13:38.479 follow me and like and click on things. There's a lot we're putting out 800 01:13:38.479 --> 01:13:43.880 at the moment. Fantasic Matthew James. Really always a pleasure, and we'll 801 01:13:43.880 --> 01:13:45.800 get back to you when your book comes out. I guess it won't be 802 01:13:45.880 --> 01:13:49.760 totally next year, so that's a good great to have you back at that 803 01:13:49.880 --> 01:13:57.439 time. So thanks for having me. Revolutionary is always fun and much success. 804 01:13:58.199 --> 01:14:03.439 Thank you, thank you having me than I have to admit I am 805 01:14:03.800 --> 01:14:12.800 somewhat relieved that he speaks in terms of like computer operations and the sentient part 806 01:14:12.920 --> 01:14:17.199 is not really something that's gonna happen anytime soon. And you know, the 807 01:14:17.239 --> 01:14:21.039 other thing is we're all worried, and this is the problem is we see 808 01:14:21.079 --> 01:14:30.000 movies that are all horror movies and computers becoming conscious and killing everybody destroyed planet 809 01:14:30.079 --> 01:14:40.279 Earth. That's fantasy. And it makes me feel much better when I hear 810 01:14:41.119 --> 01:14:44.239 Matthew saying, look, it's not gonna happen. It can happen. There's 811 01:14:44.239 --> 01:14:49.199 no consciousness, and it's really kind of nice to hear him speak about metaphysics 812 01:14:50.000 --> 01:14:59.640 and reality, creation and the soul, because obviously Ai has no soul, 813 01:15:00.279 --> 01:15:05.319 so it's not human, you know. So I like I like the metaphysical, 814 01:15:05.439 --> 01:15:11.439 spiritual aspect of his of his material, his presentation, and his answers. 815 01:15:11.520 --> 01:15:14.920 So I hope you like that too. We're gonna have him back. 816 01:15:15.039 --> 01:15:17.399 He has a book, a new book coming out spring of next year, 817 01:15:17.479 --> 01:15:21.520 twenty twenty five, and we'll ask him the same questions. Where is Ai 818 01:15:21.720 --> 01:15:26.560 at, Where do we look, how do we look at it? How 819 01:15:26.560 --> 01:15:30.560 do we approach it? Where's the integration? What is the plus? What 820 01:15:30.720 --> 01:15:35.840 is the minus? You know, we got still have Elon Musk's neural link, 821 01:15:36.479 --> 01:15:43.840 so maybe he'll find another guinea pig to implant a chip in the brain. 822 01:15:44.520 --> 01:15:47.880 Ah, I don't know. The brain is very, very complex, 823 01:15:48.880 --> 01:15:54.600 and when somebody says he's going to enhance the brain, I'm like, we 824 01:15:54.640 --> 01:16:00.319 don't know enough about the brain. It's a very delicate organ and we don't 825 01:16:00.319 --> 01:16:05.159 know how it works. We barely understand it. This is a big problem 826 01:16:05.159 --> 01:16:09.399 I had with people that have surgery of the brain. Obviously, if you 827 01:16:09.399 --> 01:16:14.119 have a tumor or you have a condition that requires some kind of brain surgery, 828 01:16:14.159 --> 01:16:18.079 of course, but Jesus Christ, that's a real tough one to deal 829 01:16:18.119 --> 01:16:25.800 with. So leave the brain alone, don't touch the brain. So anyhow, 830 01:16:25.800 --> 01:16:29.399 I hope you enjoyed that I did. I'm looking forward to seeing him 831 01:16:29.439 --> 01:16:34.159 again. Hey, we have a year in tour. It's our Secret Temples 832 01:16:34.159 --> 01:16:39.239 of Mexico. It's going to be November eighth through the seventeenth. It is 833 01:16:39.279 --> 01:16:43.960 a great one. It's a week and we pack in visits to chichen Itza, 834 01:16:44.600 --> 01:16:50.159 Ushmol, Lobna, sail Myapan, a whole bunch of really good sites 835 01:16:50.640 --> 01:16:55.079 that are rarely visited by the general public. Of course, Chichis is world 836 01:16:55.079 --> 01:16:59.880 famous. But you can't touch, you can't integrate, you cannot climb any 837 01:17:00.039 --> 01:17:04.319 pyramids. At Jijina, it's more of a museum than an archaeological park. 838 01:17:04.399 --> 01:17:10.560 It's a very very sad look at how they are treating this wonderful place. 839 01:17:11.000 --> 01:17:15.439 But we can visit most of the places we go to and we can walk 840 01:17:15.479 --> 01:17:18.279 the pyramids, we can walk in temples, we can sit, we can 841 01:17:18.399 --> 01:17:23.600 integrate, and it is a blast. For more information, the full itinerary 842 01:17:23.640 --> 01:17:30.039 and much much more, go to earthancents dot com, forward slash tours and 843 01:17:30.279 --> 01:17:32.800 look at the itinerary and register. If you have any questions about any of 844 01:17:32.800 --> 01:17:36.560 our tours, send me an email. Send it to earth Agents the number 845 01:17:36.560 --> 01:17:41.439 four of the letter you at gmail dot com, and I promise to get 846 01:17:41.520 --> 01:17:45.479 right back to you. I will mention this that we do have a tour 847 01:17:45.520 --> 01:17:48.279 coming up in March of next year. It's our Easter Island tour. I 848 01:17:48.479 --> 01:17:53.520 just posted the graphics if you're interested in that. It's going to be a 849 01:17:53.560 --> 01:17:59.880 small group and it is fabulous. Ed Barnhard is our host. He has 850 01:18:00.039 --> 01:18:03.720 surveyed this place, this island, and he has some new data he will 851 01:18:03.760 --> 01:18:09.920 present in a presentation and we're going to see things that the general public doesn't 852 01:18:09.960 --> 01:18:14.239 see. So check that out. All of our tours are available on earthacients 853 01:18:14.279 --> 01:18:20.720 dot com, forward slash tours. All right, that's it for the day's 854 01:18:20.800 --> 01:18:27.239 program. I want to thank my guest today, Matthew James Bailey discussing artificial 855 01:18:27.279 --> 01:18:33.239 intelligence as always, the team of Gail Tour and Mark Foster and everyone who 856 01:18:33.239 --> 01:18:38.920 makes this thing happen. You guys rock, all right, take care, 857 01:18:39.039 --> 01:19:14.600 be well, and we'll talk to you next time. To the Bay to the bas