WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.760 --> 00:00:06.040 You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty. 2 00:00:07.639 --> 00:00:11.400 KFI AM six forty is Later with Mo Kelly. We're live everywhere on the 3 00:00:11.439 --> 00:00:16.399 iHeartRadio app and of course joining me right now as always on a Monday evening 4 00:00:16.480 --> 00:00:18.960 as Jackie Ray. Jackie Ray is good to see you, good to talk 5 00:00:19.000 --> 00:00:21.199 to you. It's good to see you too. Good to be here. 6 00:00:21.440 --> 00:00:26.480 There's a lot that went on at the Kia Forum in Inglewood last night. 7 00:00:26.640 --> 00:00:33.119 People may not know Inglewood has a lot of sports and entertainment venues. You 8 00:00:33.200 --> 00:00:37.759 got Sofi Stadium, you got the into a Dome opening next month or so. 9 00:00:38.079 --> 00:00:40.679 And you got the Kia Form which used to be the Great Western Forum 10 00:00:40.679 --> 00:00:43.759 which the Lakers played and when it became a church and then they turned it 11 00:00:43.799 --> 00:00:48.399 into a performance venue, but it is now turned into a premiere venue where 12 00:00:48.439 --> 00:00:54.039 you have events like the Tom Brady roast, which was live on Netflix last 13 00:00:54.119 --> 00:00:57.439 night. I got to see bits and pieces of it, but there were 14 00:00:57.479 --> 00:01:00.640 some moments which jumped out at me. You had Bill Belichick was there, 15 00:01:00.880 --> 00:01:03.959 obviously, Tom Brady was there. You had all these comedians and sports figures 16 00:01:03.959 --> 00:01:10.159 that were roasting Tom Brady. I didn't know much about Tom Brady's personality, 17 00:01:11.280 --> 00:01:14.359 but I got a sense now that he has some degree a sense of humor, 18 00:01:14.439 --> 00:01:17.000 just a little bit of sense of humor. Yeah, yeah, what 19 00:01:17.000 --> 00:01:19.480 did you think of Tom Brady? Big picture? In and around this event? 20 00:01:21.439 --> 00:01:25.640 I really like this for Tom Brady because I've been saying for years now 21 00:01:25.680 --> 00:01:30.159 that Tampa Tom. I like Tampa Tom because Tampa Tom seemed like he was 22 00:01:30.200 --> 00:01:32.959 coming out of his shell a little bit. He wasn't this square bear that 23 00:01:33.000 --> 00:01:36.560 we saw in New England. He would crack jokes with reporters a lot. 24 00:01:37.319 --> 00:01:40.439 I've had the privilege of seeing him up close and personal when I've gone to 25 00:01:40.480 --> 00:01:42.319 watch the Vegas Aces play, and as you guys might know, he's become 26 00:01:42.719 --> 00:01:46.640 he has an ownership stake in the Aces, so you can see him joking 27 00:01:46.719 --> 00:01:49.680 around with people. But for the most part, I think you're right, 28 00:01:49.719 --> 00:01:53.239 that's just not a side of him that he really shows a lot. So 29 00:01:53.319 --> 00:01:56.280 I thought this was a great moment for people to see, Yes he's human, 30 00:01:56.400 --> 00:01:59.400 Yes he can take a joke, he can give a joke. He's 31 00:01:59.439 --> 00:02:04.000 just an all in normal dude, which is not something we really attribute to 32 00:02:04.000 --> 00:02:07.120 Tom Brady. So I thought this was great. It was fun. Kevin 33 00:02:07.120 --> 00:02:09.800 Hart was hosting. He was one of many comedians who had a turn at 34 00:02:09.800 --> 00:02:15.599 the mic, and one of the people he introduced was none other than Kim 35 00:02:15.919 --> 00:02:19.639 Kardashian. And she came up. Was in the middle of trying to tell 36 00:02:19.719 --> 00:02:25.319 a Kevin Hart height joke when I guess the audience realized it was Kim Kardashian 37 00:02:25.400 --> 00:02:30.680 and it didn't go Overwhell listen to this. Watch how the mood of the 38 00:02:30.719 --> 00:02:38.280 audience changed inside of fifteen seconds. Well, I know a lot of people 39 00:02:38.360 --> 00:02:51.719 make fun of your mate, all right, Hi, why wha? All 40 00:02:51.800 --> 00:02:54.639 right, Kevin? A lot of booze. There a lot of booze. 41 00:02:55.199 --> 00:02:59.240 And let me say this about Kim Kardashian. And I've said it before and 42 00:02:59.280 --> 00:03:02.159 I'll say it again. I can't knock the hustle what she's done to build 43 00:03:02.280 --> 00:03:07.560 her billion dollar empire. I can knock the fact that I can't find a 44 00:03:07.680 --> 00:03:13.199 discernible talent in all of this. She's famous, but I don't know anything 45 00:03:13.280 --> 00:03:19.080 that she does well in a performance or talent aspect outside of drawing her business. 46 00:03:19.280 --> 00:03:22.800 What am I missing here? Well, we're missing the same thing because 47 00:03:22.800 --> 00:03:25.400 I don't know what she does. I know she's kind of been the blueprint 48 00:03:25.479 --> 00:03:30.400 for like plastic surgery and things of that nature. I mean, is that 49 00:03:30.479 --> 00:03:32.520 too much, No, but it's truth. It's the truth. She's the 50 00:03:32.639 --> 00:03:37.400 posted girl for that, so much so that we've literally seen this movement of 51 00:03:37.479 --> 00:03:40.840 people getting the Kim Kardashian face lift. It's literally a thing now. So 52 00:03:42.240 --> 00:03:45.080 aside from that, I don't know what she does. Even with the skims 53 00:03:45.199 --> 00:03:47.680 line that she has, she had no part in creating that. She just 54 00:03:47.759 --> 00:03:53.240 put her money behind someone else's idea. So I don't really know what talent 55 00:03:53.439 --> 00:03:59.319 she has, but kudos to her for being a talentless icon. She still, 56 00:03:59.479 --> 00:04:01.719 though, was given the stage and the microphone. She even threw in 57 00:04:02.240 --> 00:04:06.039 an OJ joke talking about her connection to football players. She says something to 58 00:04:06.080 --> 00:04:10.759 the fact of, I don't want a definity football players anymore because my family's 59 00:04:10.800 --> 00:04:14.560 done enough of that, HARKing back to her father being part of the Dream 60 00:04:14.639 --> 00:04:17.319 Team. But even that joke wasn't delivered all that well. We know that 61 00:04:17.399 --> 00:04:19.959 she has a lot of history with football players. I don't want to run 62 00:04:20.000 --> 00:04:25.240 the list, but the list is awful day I long, But big picture, 63 00:04:25.639 --> 00:04:28.519 what do you think about as we talk about going beyond the box score. 64 00:04:28.639 --> 00:04:32.680 I think this is a perfect illustration of how entertainment is interwoven with sports, 65 00:04:33.199 --> 00:04:38.720 social and cultural issues. You got an OJ reference, you have entertainment, 66 00:04:38.800 --> 00:04:43.319 you have sports, you have reality TV. Is this what entertainment is 67 00:04:43.480 --> 00:04:46.920 going forward where there are no real partitions? Absolutely? I think one of 68 00:04:47.000 --> 00:04:49.920 the key points you and I have talked about this before too. The NBA 69 00:04:50.439 --> 00:04:56.800 is technically an entertainment entity more than it is a sports entity, and people 70 00:04:56.879 --> 00:04:59.319 forget that a lot of times. So a lot of times, a lot 71 00:04:59.399 --> 00:05:01.519 of what you seeing the reason why we you go. One of the things 72 00:05:01.560 --> 00:05:04.759 that I absolutely despise is the next day after a Lakers game, if I 73 00:05:04.839 --> 00:05:08.920 have to report on it and I go to Getty Images, I have more 74 00:05:09.120 --> 00:05:14.319 images on Getty of the stars sitting courtside than I do the players at the 75 00:05:14.399 --> 00:05:17.199 game. Even with the WNBA, if a celebrity comes, that's the news 76 00:05:17.240 --> 00:05:20.560 of the day. Is this celebrity here? And it's because there's this overlap 77 00:05:20.720 --> 00:05:26.079 between what's entertaining and what's entertaining on a sports level, They're the same thing. 78 00:05:26.199 --> 00:05:29.360 We're just being entertained in different ways. And so it made sense for 79 00:05:29.399 --> 00:05:30.560 her to be there. I know there were some rumors that the two of 80 00:05:30.600 --> 00:05:33.439 them were dating at one point, so it made sense for her. We 81 00:05:33.519 --> 00:05:35.920 still don't know that, and I think maybe that's why fans are doing They 82 00:05:35.920 --> 00:05:39.959 didn't want that Kardashian kurse to come out. But he's retired now, so 83 00:05:40.120 --> 00:05:45.079 it's fine. But it's definitely an overlap between entertainment and sports because they are 84 00:05:45.120 --> 00:05:49.560 both essentially entertaining us. And we forgot what aspect of this streaming. You 85 00:05:49.600 --> 00:05:56.199 know, this was a Netflix live streamed event. Netflix has been dipping against 86 00:05:56.279 --> 00:06:00.279 tow in the water as far as live streamed events is started with Chris and 87 00:06:00.360 --> 00:06:03.720 his response to Will and Jada Smith. But I see that this is going 88 00:06:03.800 --> 00:06:08.480 to be more of a theme. Do you think people are open to Netflix 89 00:06:08.639 --> 00:06:12.040 is a live streaming entity. I think so. Netflix has done a great 90 00:06:12.120 --> 00:06:15.879 job of having very specific programming that you can only see on Netflix. They've 91 00:06:15.920 --> 00:06:19.319 created a lot of programming that you can only see on Netflix. I only 92 00:06:19.399 --> 00:06:25.079 have a Netflix subscription because they have great horror films. So they're very good 93 00:06:25.160 --> 00:06:30.920 at dialing into very specific genres and very specific fan bases. And we like 94 00:06:30.000 --> 00:06:32.759 to see live events. People love to see live events. I think the 95 00:06:32.839 --> 00:06:36.560 next thing we're probably going to see from Netflix is live music events, because 96 00:06:36.600 --> 00:06:40.759 that's the thing that's always going to get you. HBO has done an amazing 97 00:06:40.879 --> 00:06:44.680 job of getting those live music events and really getting fan bases that way. 98 00:06:45.120 --> 00:06:47.000 So Netflix is trying to stay ahead of the curve. Let's not forget they're 99 00:06:47.000 --> 00:06:49.720 the ones that put Blockbuster out of business, so they're just trying to stay 100 00:06:49.920 --> 00:06:54.720 ahead of the curve and stay relevant. My prediction was I thought they were 101 00:06:54.759 --> 00:06:57.800 going to go further down the sports road. It seems like, well, 102 00:06:57.800 --> 00:07:00.199 it doesn't have to be mutual exclusive, it doesn't have to be one or 103 00:07:00.279 --> 00:07:04.160 the other. But I get the sense that they're growing this base of entertainment 104 00:07:04.199 --> 00:07:09.839 which is inclusive of sports, which eventually will lead to sports. There's been 105 00:07:09.879 --> 00:07:15.160 a lot of discussion about whether the NBA and they're broadcast rights will be purchased 106 00:07:15.160 --> 00:07:18.639 by T and T or NBC, which says to me there may be more 107 00:07:18.720 --> 00:07:24.160 than one bidder in that war. And I wouldn't be surprised if someone like 108 00:07:24.319 --> 00:07:30.199 Netflix would swoop in because we've seen other non traditional entities, if you will, 109 00:07:30.560 --> 00:07:32.959 like Twitter and Amazon, you know, get into that sports field. 110 00:07:33.160 --> 00:07:38.360 So why not Netflix? Could you see Netflix also doing sports? I can 111 00:07:38.439 --> 00:07:41.839 absolutely see Netflix doing sports. There's no reason for it not to because it 112 00:07:41.959 --> 00:07:45.399 is, it has the platform to do it, and it's a win win. 113 00:07:45.480 --> 00:07:46.879 One of the things I tell people all the time is some of the 114 00:07:46.959 --> 00:07:50.639 shows that I've watched for years, I ended up watching because it came on 115 00:07:50.800 --> 00:07:55.160 right after the Super Bowl. So when you have something big in a sports 116 00:07:55.240 --> 00:07:58.199 world, those fans are already there, so they're going to roam around this 117 00:07:58.319 --> 00:08:01.480 platform and find other content to work that they might not normally watch if you 118 00:08:01.920 --> 00:08:05.160 didn't have the sports venue on there. So I think it's a big deal 119 00:08:05.279 --> 00:08:07.879 for Netflix to get, you know, like you said, dip their toe 120 00:08:07.959 --> 00:08:13.279 on that. I have been a champion for them holding the WNBA for years 121 00:08:13.920 --> 00:08:16.800 because the WNBA just doesn't get enough coverage. Netflix is an easy fix for 122 00:08:16.879 --> 00:08:20.720 that. So I definitely think they will do this going forward. When we 123 00:08:20.800 --> 00:08:26.360 come back. I think I saw the literal end of the career of basketball 124 00:08:26.360 --> 00:08:31.559 player Patrick Beverly not once but twice. On the court when he threw the 125 00:08:31.639 --> 00:08:35.720 ball at a spectator it hit a different spectator, and off the court when 126 00:08:35.759 --> 00:08:41.960 he shunned a female reporter for not subscribing to his podcast, no joke. 127 00:08:41.240 --> 00:08:43.720 I gotta get your thoughts on that, Jackie Ray, when we come back. 128 00:08:45.120 --> 00:08:50.320 You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty. 129 00:08:50.919 --> 00:08:54.799 I Am six forty is a letter with Moe Kelly. We're still going 130 00:08:54.919 --> 00:09:00.279 beyond the box score and we're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Jackie I 131 00:09:00.399 --> 00:09:03.759 teased it before the break. I said, Patrick Beverly, who's played with 132 00:09:03.879 --> 00:09:07.679 just about everybody in the NBA, from the Lakers to the Clippers to you 133 00:09:07.759 --> 00:09:11.720 know, everywhere else. He was at the moment on the Milwaukee Bucks. 134 00:09:13.039 --> 00:09:16.519 They were in a playoff series, which they eventually lost to the Indiana Pacers. 135 00:09:16.840 --> 00:09:20.639 What happened during this series was there was a fan I guess the ball 136 00:09:20.720 --> 00:09:24.759 had gone out into the stands and a fan threw the ball back on the 137 00:09:24.799 --> 00:09:30.159 court in the direction of Patrick Beverley. Patrick Beverley caught it and rifled it 138 00:09:30.360 --> 00:09:33.039 right back at the fan, but it hit a woman right next to him. 139 00:09:33.639 --> 00:09:37.799 That was problem number one. Then after the game, I guess you 140 00:09:37.879 --> 00:09:41.799 know, he sits down in this gaggle of reporters in the locker room. 141 00:09:41.879 --> 00:09:43.279 You've been in that. I have been in that, we know what it's 142 00:09:43.440 --> 00:09:46.759 like. And then there was a woman, female reporter standing right next to 143 00:09:46.840 --> 00:09:50.600 him, and then out of nowhere, she wasn't even talking to him. 144 00:09:52.000 --> 00:09:54.919 He says to her, are you subscribed to my podcast? Listen to what 145 00:09:56.039 --> 00:09:58.440 Stephen A. Smith of ESPN had to say, how he broke it down 146 00:09:58.639 --> 00:10:03.679 and also so what happened in those moments? We can't avoid the subject involving 147 00:10:03.759 --> 00:10:07.320 Patrick Beverly, who let his frustrations out as he threw a ball twice into 148 00:10:07.360 --> 00:10:09.639 the crowd late in the Buck season and then lost to the basers. Beverly 149 00:10:09.720 --> 00:10:13.200 initially threw a ball into the stands that hit a woman by the way, 150 00:10:13.679 --> 00:10:18.240 who didn't appear to be his intended target, so it's fair to say that, 151 00:10:18.679 --> 00:10:20.960 but he hit in the head. When another fan tossed the ball back 152 00:10:22.039 --> 00:10:24.600 to him, he responded by throwing it hard at that fan, which means 153 00:10:24.639 --> 00:10:30.200 that's who he was originally targeting to begin with. In a post on x, 154 00:10:30.279 --> 00:10:33.639 Beverly wrote quote, I have to be better. After a video of 155 00:10:33.720 --> 00:10:39.279 the incident circulated online and after the game things got worse. He made more 156 00:10:39.360 --> 00:10:46.440 ways by refusing to address a reporter because she does not subscribe to his podcast. 157 00:10:46.240 --> 00:10:48.919 There was a couple of chances this game, like many of the others, 158 00:10:50.080 --> 00:10:54.600 where within a bucket of possession here, I'm sorry, you subscribe to 159 00:10:54.679 --> 00:11:03.240 my pot so you can't interview me? Then noout disrespect, subscribe okay, 160 00:11:03.320 --> 00:11:09.440 cool again. There were a couple times within a bucket or two in previous 161 00:11:09.519 --> 00:11:16.480 kims yell been it would kind of get over that humber maybe was it anything 162 00:11:16.600 --> 00:11:18.799 they did in particular? Was it just one of those where the bucket didn't 163 00:11:18.799 --> 00:11:22.399 go down? There wasn't a stop they made one? What kind of prevented 164 00:11:22.440 --> 00:11:26.399 that? You all from me able to get over it? Like you haven't 165 00:11:26.039 --> 00:11:28.759 st move that might please? Or just get out the circle please for me, 166 00:11:28.840 --> 00:11:31.519 please, ma'am if you're not subscribed to my pod, I appreciate that. 167 00:11:31.639 --> 00:11:35.919 Thank you. I think they played really well at home. Did you 168 00:11:35.000 --> 00:11:39.120 hear the part where Patrick Beverly said no disrespect at the beginning? No, 169 00:11:39.759 --> 00:11:45.279 nothing but disrespect there he only asked the female reporter, have you subscribed to 170 00:11:45.399 --> 00:11:48.440 my podcast? How can I take this any other way? There's no other 171 00:11:48.480 --> 00:11:52.600 way you can take it. I'm really kind of surprised at the reporter that 172 00:11:52.720 --> 00:11:56.799 was asking the question about the buckets, and because I immediately would have redirected, 173 00:11:56.200 --> 00:11:58.960 and I immediately would have said, why is it that that's a prerequid 174 00:12:00.279 --> 00:12:03.679 that a reporter has to be subscribed to your podcast in order to interview you? 175 00:12:03.279 --> 00:12:07.120 I would that would have been the only question at this point, because 176 00:12:07.159 --> 00:12:09.279 now you're making this a prerequisite, like you said, for just the woman, 177 00:12:09.759 --> 00:12:15.720 And why did you feel that, even if that was his idiosyncrasy wait 178 00:12:15.799 --> 00:12:18.200 till she asked you a question? Why are you going to interrupt this reporter's 179 00:12:18.279 --> 00:12:22.440 question to call out this woman? So now you're embarrassing her, and and 180 00:12:22.519 --> 00:12:24.000 now you're just showing your whole behind, Like what was the purpose of this? 181 00:12:24.279 --> 00:12:28.240 It makes no sense. I said at the beginning, you've been in 182 00:12:28.320 --> 00:12:30.879 that gaggle like that. I've been a gaggle like that. I know what 183 00:12:31.000 --> 00:12:35.080 that dynamic is. Like you're hoping to get one question in so you can 184 00:12:35.159 --> 00:12:39.879 get your exclusive audio for your outlet, and we're all at varying levels in 185 00:12:39.000 --> 00:12:43.600 our career. The TV people usually get their questions first, The well known 186 00:12:43.720 --> 00:12:48.200 radio people get their questions that maybe you might get something. At the end, 187 00:12:48.679 --> 00:12:52.200 I get the sense that she was not high on the total poll and 188 00:12:52.440 --> 00:12:56.600 so she needed to get her audio and he singled her out for no damn 189 00:12:56.960 --> 00:13:01.759 reason. I have zero respect for Patrick Beverley because I know what it's like 190 00:13:01.919 --> 00:13:05.960 being in that Absolutely. I cannot tell you how many times I've been. 191 00:13:07.120 --> 00:13:09.679 Just recently, I've been in that situation. And then you're excited when spectrum 192 00:13:09.720 --> 00:13:15.080 because Spectrum is the biggest cover footage for the WNBA. So you're excited when 193 00:13:15.080 --> 00:13:18.960 the spectrum reporter is not there because now that means you have a chance of 194 00:13:18.120 --> 00:13:22.519 getting a question in. But when they walk in, it sucks the energy 195 00:13:22.559 --> 00:13:24.559 out of the room because you know they it's always spectrum first, and there's 196 00:13:24.600 --> 00:13:28.600 no time limit. They can ask as many questions as they want, and 197 00:13:28.679 --> 00:13:31.039 then if the player or the coach is ready to go, they're just ready 198 00:13:31.039 --> 00:13:33.159 to go. And you didn't get a question in, And so I think 199 00:13:33.200 --> 00:13:37.799 it's disrespectful because you don't appreciate one how hard it is to be in that 200 00:13:37.960 --> 00:13:41.519 circle. Not only not wondering if you're getting the question, but now you've 201 00:13:41.519 --> 00:13:43.159 got your questions in your head and if they do pick your last, somebody 202 00:13:43.240 --> 00:13:46.879 probably don't ask your question three different ways, So now you have to figure 203 00:13:48.200 --> 00:13:50.519 a different question. So there's a lack of respect for the profession when you 204 00:13:50.679 --> 00:13:54.159 just dismiss someone like that. And Patrick Beverly should know better. He's the 205 00:13:54.240 --> 00:13:58.759 first one to demand a level of respect. So how dare you not show 206 00:13:58.840 --> 00:14:03.200 respect and return? This was ridiculous. I wish and I'm glad you highlighted 207 00:14:03.240 --> 00:14:07.159 it. I wish someone else would have pointed it out in the moment. 208 00:14:07.639 --> 00:14:11.080 Someone else should have had something to say. It's like, hey, Patrick, 209 00:14:11.279 --> 00:14:13.879 I haven't subscribed to your podcast. I'm not sure anyone else has either. 210 00:14:15.320 --> 00:14:18.960 Can we still interview? Make him go on the record, make him 211 00:14:18.360 --> 00:14:22.559 have to stand behind why he only asked a female reporter who had not asked 212 00:14:22.600 --> 00:14:26.320 him a question yet? Right right? She was just standing there holding her 213 00:14:26.360 --> 00:14:31.320 mic and then to physically push her mic out of the circles physically, physically. 214 00:14:31.399 --> 00:14:35.159 That is ridiculous. So now you're saying she cannot only not ask you 215 00:14:35.240 --> 00:14:39.720 a question, she can't get audio from other people who are She still has 216 00:14:39.759 --> 00:14:41.919 a job to do regardless of what your ego is saying. She still has 217 00:14:41.960 --> 00:14:46.759 to report on what happened in some of your responses. So I don't really 218 00:14:46.840 --> 00:14:50.480 understand his thinking, But for him to. She said that he came back 219 00:14:50.519 --> 00:14:54.519 in and apologized. That's fine for him to post on Twitter. I have 220 00:14:54.639 --> 00:14:58.720 to be better, that's fine. I have difficulties, and maybe this is 221 00:14:58.799 --> 00:15:03.120 my shortcoming. I have difficulties giving any kind of credit to that, because 222 00:15:03.159 --> 00:15:05.840 there's no part of me that in that moment would have thought I need to 223 00:15:05.879 --> 00:15:09.200 be dismissive of this woman and physically push her microphone out the way. How 224 00:15:09.240 --> 00:15:11.000 do you not know in that moment that this is a this is bad behavior? 225 00:15:11.120 --> 00:15:15.039 Well, Ken, how am I supposed to respect your apology afterwards? 226 00:15:15.120 --> 00:15:18.360 Well, clearly ESPN agrees with you, because they said he has been banned 227 00:15:18.399 --> 00:15:24.639 from any future appearances on ESPN. I applaud ESPN doing that on the back 228 00:15:24.759 --> 00:15:28.840 end, but on the front end, her colleagues, her peers, her 229 00:15:28.919 --> 00:15:33.960 contemporaries in that moment should have done better and they should have known better. 230 00:15:33.399 --> 00:15:37.759 Absolutely, there's no way I'm going to see somebody that is in the same 231 00:15:37.799 --> 00:15:41.600 profession as I am, whether I know them personally or not, see them 232 00:15:41.639 --> 00:15:43.960 be disrespected and then I have the mic. I have an opportunity to say 233 00:15:45.039 --> 00:15:46.639 something, and I don't. You're culpable at that point, and I don't 234 00:15:46.720 --> 00:15:50.639 like that. How many times has that happened when the cameras didn't catch it? 235 00:15:50.879 --> 00:15:54.279 How many times did that happen? And he just didn't verbalize it, 236 00:15:54.600 --> 00:16:00.799 but was equally as dismissive and refused to take certain questions or treat him another 237 00:16:00.879 --> 00:16:03.879 way. Similarly, I have to believe that that's not the first time, 238 00:16:03.000 --> 00:16:06.919 the only time, or even the last time that something like that happened, 239 00:16:07.320 --> 00:16:10.600 and that would make the reporter's response makes sense because he didn't even miss a 240 00:16:10.639 --> 00:16:11.600 beat. He was like, Okay, this is Pat Bev doing this thing 241 00:16:11.679 --> 00:16:17.720 back to my question, and there was no indication that he was mortified at 242 00:16:17.759 --> 00:16:22.159 all, which means this is a regular occurrence. It's a shame, but 243 00:16:22.799 --> 00:16:26.600 as they say, it's just Tuesday right in America, Right, Jack Ray, 244 00:16:26.639 --> 00:16:29.919 It's always good talking to me. Thank you for coming on. Thank 245 00:16:29.960 --> 00:16:34.919 you you're listening too. Later with Moe Kelly on Demand from KFI AM six 246 00:16:36.039 --> 00:16:41.039 forty SNL. It's hit and miss. We all probably agree. Sometimes it's 247 00:16:41.080 --> 00:16:44.440 funny. Many times it's not funny. But every once in a while, 248 00:16:44.720 --> 00:16:47.919 if you're really paying attention and you know some history, you might find a 249 00:16:48.039 --> 00:16:52.320 hidden gym in it. I think I found a hidden gym with a skit 250 00:16:52.720 --> 00:16:57.840 which was done between other cast members and Keenan Thompson. But Keenan highlighted the 251 00:16:57.960 --> 00:17:04.640 complexity of the campus protests and how there's a generational difference. Let me back 252 00:17:04.720 --> 00:17:07.880 up and explain to you what I mean. When my parents went to college, 253 00:17:07.920 --> 00:17:11.799 they went to Howard University in Washington, d C. It's a historically 254 00:17:11.880 --> 00:17:15.519 black college university in Washington, d C. And when they went it was 255 00:17:15.559 --> 00:17:19.400 at the height of the civil rights movement late fifties turning early sixties. My 256 00:17:19.480 --> 00:17:23.839 mother even was a classmate of someone you made know the name of Stokely Carmichael. 257 00:17:25.200 --> 00:17:27.160 He was a leader in the civil rights movement. He's a leader of 258 00:17:27.279 --> 00:17:32.279 SNAKE, which is a student nonviolent coordinating committee, is one of the leaders 259 00:17:32.319 --> 00:17:37.279 in Pan African movement. I sailed that to say on Howard University's campus and 260 00:17:37.359 --> 00:17:41.279 around the country different colleges. It was at the height of the civil rights 261 00:17:41.359 --> 00:17:44.920 movement, and there was this push poll as far as whether you're going to 262 00:17:45.000 --> 00:17:49.039 get involved or not. But also it was still during segregation as they were 263 00:17:49.200 --> 00:17:55.519 trying to fight for the Civil Rights, Civil Rights Act and also the Voting 264 00:17:55.599 --> 00:17:57.640 Rights Act. The Civil Rights Act, to make a long story short, 265 00:17:57.640 --> 00:18:02.880 would have opened up society where kids like me later on could go to Georgetown 266 00:18:03.000 --> 00:18:07.319 University. Georgetown University only had maybe two or three black kids in the late 267 00:18:07.440 --> 00:18:11.640 fifties. Their first black student graduated in nineteen fifty three. I use that 268 00:18:11.680 --> 00:18:15.480 as a premer because when my parents got out of college and they finished their 269 00:18:15.559 --> 00:18:22.319 master's degree, it was right around the passage of the Voting Right to Act. 270 00:18:22.759 --> 00:18:26.240 Growing up, my sister and I we were told, you all are 271 00:18:26.319 --> 00:18:30.240 going to go to college. Do not mess off your education. Education was 272 00:18:30.359 --> 00:18:34.079 the most important thing in my household. That's something I carry with me and 273 00:18:34.319 --> 00:18:41.440 passed on to anyone see who's a young person. Keep that in mind because 274 00:18:41.480 --> 00:18:44.759 when I went to college at Georgetown University and Mark Ronerd you may know something 275 00:18:44.799 --> 00:18:49.079 about this. During my freshman year, there was a clan march in Maryland, 276 00:18:49.920 --> 00:18:52.839 and I was a freshman. I said, I gotta go see this. 277 00:18:52.960 --> 00:18:56.759 And I was back by militant days where we were going to counter protests 278 00:18:56.880 --> 00:19:03.559 against the Klan. And I mean this was four clan regalia robes, the 279 00:19:03.720 --> 00:19:10.000 cross banners, Confederate flags, the whole shebang. But my father, I 280 00:19:10.079 --> 00:19:14.519 remember he told me is that you go be careful, but don't do anything 281 00:19:14.599 --> 00:19:21.000 to mess up your education. Do not. So there's a general disconnect where 282 00:19:21.680 --> 00:19:26.240 my parents growing up in the Civil rights movement they understood how important that the 283 00:19:26.359 --> 00:19:33.559 movement was to making sure education was available to everyone everywhere, and subsequent generations 284 00:19:33.599 --> 00:19:37.759 where you may feel the need to protest but don't do anything to mess off 285 00:19:38.000 --> 00:19:45.519 your future opportunities or your own education. With all that as a precursor, 286 00:19:45.119 --> 00:19:51.359 now listen to this bit where you have the Saturday Night Live cast member asking 287 00:19:51.480 --> 00:19:57.200 Keenan Thompson about his own daughter protesting and whether he's okay with it. Alphons, 288 00:19:57.200 --> 00:20:00.119 your daughter must feel so supported when she's out there. Was that? 289 00:20:00.279 --> 00:20:07.000 Now, when who's daughter is out there at the protest? No? No, 290 00:20:07.119 --> 00:20:12.480 no, no, man, you bugging Alexis Vanessa Roberts better half her 291 00:20:12.480 --> 00:20:18.440 button class? Let me find out she ain't one of them damn tents instead 292 00:20:18.480 --> 00:20:22.519 of the dorm room that I pay for. I thought you were in favor 293 00:20:22.599 --> 00:20:26.640 of the student protest, brother, man, I am supportive of y'all's kids 294 00:20:26.759 --> 00:20:32.559 protesting, not my kids. My kids. No better shoot, Alexa's Vanessa 295 00:20:32.559 --> 00:20:37.000 ain't crazy. Well, I'll fond your daughter attends Columbia. What do you 296 00:20:37.039 --> 00:20:41.279 think about the students that took over Hamilton Hall. That's good for y'all's kids, 297 00:20:41.200 --> 00:20:45.039 but they ain't mine. That's all I'm saying. They ain't my kids. 298 00:20:45.160 --> 00:20:48.200 You feel me right, yes, I feel you out fond. But 299 00:20:48.319 --> 00:20:52.279 tell me, with the rising attendance in these protests, how does it make 300 00:20:52.319 --> 00:20:56.599 you feel to see the increase in police presence? Man, I ain't worried 301 00:20:56.599 --> 00:21:02.279 about five Oh, that is not my business. My business is Alexis Vanessa 302 00:21:02.359 --> 00:21:04.480 Roberts. Okay, she ain't talking about no free. This is free that 303 00:21:04.799 --> 00:21:15.319 because I tell you what ain't free Columbia. So there's so much truth in 304 00:21:15.400 --> 00:21:18.039 that. There is so much truth in that because I know, and I 305 00:21:18.119 --> 00:21:22.039 say this very proudly, I know my parents took out a second mortgage on 306 00:21:22.200 --> 00:21:26.279 the house to make sure my sister and I could go to college. I 307 00:21:26.480 --> 00:21:32.119 know that there was no way in the world that I would do anything to 308 00:21:32.240 --> 00:21:36.640 put my education in jeopardy. Did that sound kind of selfish? Possibly? 309 00:21:37.119 --> 00:21:42.440 But the generational expectation was our generation, as in my parents' generation. They 310 00:21:42.519 --> 00:21:47.279 made it very clear we sacrificed, we struggled so you could go to these 311 00:21:47.400 --> 00:21:51.319 institutions of higher learning. The last thing you're going to do is mess off 312 00:21:51.359 --> 00:21:55.680 your education, lose your scholarship, or do something in which you're going to 313 00:21:55.720 --> 00:21:59.839 get kicked out, or or you know, just make move the whole point 314 00:21:59.880 --> 00:22:03.319 of taking out that second mortgage. And I remember to Wally, you and 315 00:22:03.400 --> 00:22:08.960 I were having a similar conversation last week, and you can tell as much 316 00:22:10.039 --> 00:22:12.640 or as little as you want. Do you remember we were talking about how 317 00:22:14.400 --> 00:22:19.559 your parents had a a i'll say, a similar but different expectation of you. 318 00:22:21.519 --> 00:22:27.480 Yes. No, they My mother definitely wanted me to go to college, 319 00:22:29.559 --> 00:22:37.319 but also understood my aversion to it and actually my artistic leanings. Looking 320 00:22:37.440 --> 00:22:45.000 at these protests, I do remember my mother's days in the revolution, you 321 00:22:45.079 --> 00:22:49.000 know, out there protesting and things like that. But but but she finished 322 00:22:49.000 --> 00:22:55.920 school, she got her degree. She was not messing around most everyone within 323 00:22:56.599 --> 00:23:00.200 that power struggle back then, they still knew, damn show that they need 324 00:23:00.279 --> 00:23:03.240 to get their degrees. Me I may not have gone to college, but 325 00:23:03.279 --> 00:23:07.640 I can promise you this, My son, who will be graduating high school 326 00:23:07.720 --> 00:23:11.920 within the next few weeks or so, he will be and if he involves 327 00:23:11.000 --> 00:23:15.119 himself in any of these processes. I will have him. I will go 328 00:23:15.319 --> 00:23:18.200 down there and get him myself. Don't worry about the police and the zip 329 00:23:18.279 --> 00:23:23.119 ties. I will be down there myself to get him. That's why I 330 00:23:23.279 --> 00:23:30.039 thought this Saturday Night Live bit was so insightful. I don't know if everyone 331 00:23:30.160 --> 00:23:33.839 really picked up on it. Yes, they got the humor like you're not 332 00:23:33.039 --> 00:23:38.359 my child. But there is a generational conversation in that where I'm paying for 333 00:23:38.480 --> 00:23:44.720 this, I can't afford for you to not get your degree. It's different 334 00:23:45.160 --> 00:23:48.839 when if you're on scholarship or something, or say if you're a trust fund 335 00:23:48.960 --> 00:23:52.559 kid, and you don't have to worry about that, but when you have 336 00:23:52.759 --> 00:23:56.000 parents who have really worked hard, and this may be you may be the 337 00:23:56.079 --> 00:23:59.960 first or like, for example, my father was the first person in him 338 00:24:00.160 --> 00:24:03.559 college in his family to go to college, the first person, and my 339 00:24:03.680 --> 00:24:07.599 mother she was like, you know, twenty fifth. But my father came 340 00:24:07.680 --> 00:24:12.440 from very, very meager beginnings. He grew up in the projects in Lynchburg, 341 00:24:12.559 --> 00:24:17.279 Virginia. His mother didn't even want him to go to college. She 342 00:24:17.319 --> 00:24:19.480 thought it was a fool's errand and it was a waste of time. He 343 00:24:19.680 --> 00:24:23.119 was the first one to go to college, so you damn sure knew that 344 00:24:23.599 --> 00:24:26.519 I was not going to mess around at some protests trying to yell at the 345 00:24:26.599 --> 00:24:30.599 KKK, get arrested, get kicked out of school, and didn't have to 346 00:24:30.680 --> 00:24:34.240 deal with him. No, sir, No, sir ree no, you 347 00:24:34.359 --> 00:24:37.880 know for a fact, you and I we sat in these studios watching this 348 00:24:38.000 --> 00:24:41.920 all the tells thinking of himself. That wouldn't have been me. That would 349 00:24:41.960 --> 00:24:44.640 have been me. It would not be my kids, for a fact. 350 00:24:45.039 --> 00:24:48.720 Those are young kids down there right, my kids, my father. And 351 00:24:48.839 --> 00:24:53.480 I'm not disrespecting the reasons for the protests. I'm saying that there are these 352 00:24:53.759 --> 00:25:00.039 conversations which are going on in households, especially African American households right now, 353 00:25:00.680 --> 00:25:04.400 right now. And I know if I were one of those on TV, 354 00:25:04.759 --> 00:25:07.920 and your parents can always recognize you. You know, you can try to 355 00:25:07.960 --> 00:25:11.720 cover yourself up, but your mama knows what you look like. Regardless, 356 00:25:12.480 --> 00:25:18.640 if I were recognized in one of those protests, my father would have gotten 357 00:25:18.680 --> 00:25:22.680 on a plane, gone to Washington, d C. Whooped my ass, 358 00:25:22.039 --> 00:25:26.240 got back on the plane, came back to LA and then would have said 359 00:25:26.279 --> 00:25:29.119 bring your ass home. You know, it's interesting, you know who we 360 00:25:29.319 --> 00:25:33.880 have not seen getting arrested or out there processing or any of that. The 361 00:25:33.039 --> 00:25:40.920 UCLA Valedictorian or the usc She has not been the news arrested. Okay, 362 00:25:41.160 --> 00:25:45.920 she has not. That says a lot. I'm not saying, but I'm 363 00:25:45.039 --> 00:25:51.960 just saying. You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM 364 00:25:52.079 --> 00:25:56.759 six forty I AM six forties Later with mo Kelly. We're live everywhere on 365 00:25:56.839 --> 00:26:00.480 the iHeartRadio app. And I'm just gonna say this right now, there's no 366 00:26:00.559 --> 00:26:04.799 way we're going to get through this segment. It's going to end prematurely. 367 00:26:06.240 --> 00:26:19.480 As they say. May. May is National Master, National National self Pleasuring 368 00:26:19.640 --> 00:26:25.960 Month, and it was designated the season of self gratification way back in nineteen 369 00:26:26.039 --> 00:26:27.400 ninety five. You may remember, well, actually you may not remember. 370 00:26:27.440 --> 00:26:30.759 You may not be old enough to remember. But nineteen ninety four, then 371 00:26:30.839 --> 00:26:37.400 President Bill Clinton he fired his own surgeon General, doctor Jocelyn Elders, for 372 00:26:37.640 --> 00:26:48.799 suggesting that master that you know self thing should be taught as part of the 373 00:26:48.920 --> 00:26:52.720 sex ed curriculum. That was back in nineteen ninety four. Well, here's 374 00:26:52.799 --> 00:27:02.440 your horoscope related to May National Master. You know, the month aries being 375 00:27:02.480 --> 00:27:04.160 the first sign of the zodiac, it makes sense for aries to be known 376 00:27:04.240 --> 00:27:07.759 and seeing why not aries. This month is about you. Put on a 377 00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:11.480 show and leave people wanting more. Explore your body in front of a partner 378 00:27:11.759 --> 00:27:17.160 or even a mirror. Make yourself and your stunning body known. Showing your 379 00:27:17.240 --> 00:27:22.079 partner or yourself how you gain pleasure will turn the heat right up. Tarus. 380 00:27:23.160 --> 00:27:30.119 Wow, uh, Tony, what's your sign? I guess not there? 381 00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:37.720 Okay, tars Tony, what's your sign? Yes, January, that's 382 00:27:37.759 --> 00:27:41.880 Capricorn. Probably okay, Tarus. There is no other sign that will go 383 00:27:42.039 --> 00:27:45.559 to the ends of the earth for ultimate luxury, and you deserve it. 384 00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:48.319 No frills, no gimmicks, just you and a partner. Learning to love 385 00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:52.480 your bodies as much as you love theirs. Exploring your pleasure and desires can 386 00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:56.720 help with communication in and outside the bedroom and improve your sexual awareness. Jim 387 00:27:56.759 --> 00:28:03.400 and I Mark, we know that if they could, a Gemini would clone 388 00:28:03.400 --> 00:28:06.519 themselves. There aren't enough hours in the day, right, but many bodies 389 00:28:06.599 --> 00:28:12.240 can become one in another way. Wink wink. That's baffling yet disgusting. 390 00:28:12.480 --> 00:28:18.960 Go ahead and also stimulating. While defying traditional romantic relationships doesn't come without a 391 00:28:19.079 --> 00:28:26.039 few challenges. Solo partnered in three way sex along with manna can't be seductive, 392 00:28:26.200 --> 00:28:34.240 romantic and steamy hot hot, it can you and yourself and you yourself 393 00:28:34.279 --> 00:28:40.480 and you know yes? What about the shame part? I don't feel like 394 00:28:40.559 --> 00:28:47.599 there's enough shame involved twenty first century, there's no shame anymore. Cancer ruled 395 00:28:47.640 --> 00:28:52.279 as they are by the moon, which represents the corporeal form, cancers are 396 00:28:52.359 --> 00:28:55.839 in tune with their bodies and themselves. They know how to manifest and they 397 00:28:55.960 --> 00:28:57.799 know how to go and get what they want. Cancers, it is time 398 00:28:57.880 --> 00:29:03.480 to let your good mood to over less manifestation, more impulsivity. Instead of 399 00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:08.880 setting time aside for self pleasure, act impulsively, wait like anywhere anywhere. 400 00:29:08.920 --> 00:29:12.119 Eighty times I just want to do it on a bus. Who cares? 401 00:29:12.240 --> 00:29:15.559 They're already doing it on the bus. Yeah you're right, Yeah they are. 402 00:29:15.559 --> 00:29:18.759 You need to get out more. Mark another reason I've never taken the 403 00:29:18.839 --> 00:29:25.119 metro. Leo roll out the red carpet and studio lights. We love the 404 00:29:25.200 --> 00:29:30.160 main character energy that Leo brings to any function. Okay, why don't you 405 00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:32.880 take a step back and let your partner lead the way, ask them to 406 00:29:32.960 --> 00:29:36.759 show you what they enjoy and feel the heat as they pleasure themselves until they 407 00:29:36.799 --> 00:29:42.079 are begging for you to join in. Virgo okay, known for being consistent 408 00:29:42.160 --> 00:29:45.960 and practical, Virgos enjoy routine. Why not shake things up a bit? 409 00:29:47.240 --> 00:29:49.400 Who knows? You may explore a new kink. A lovely way to play 410 00:29:49.559 --> 00:29:53.480 when trying to explore is to incorporate food. This can be as tame or 411 00:29:53.559 --> 00:29:57.400 extreme as you want. The beauty is being able to start with something simple 412 00:29:57.480 --> 00:30:00.960 like feeding each other's strawberries. Nine and a half weeks and it can escalate 413 00:30:02.000 --> 00:30:06.680 too much more. Remember that movie Oh yeah, yeah, Mickey Rourke, 414 00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:14.799 Kim Basinger. That's right. Uh. Libra, as the symbol suggests, 415 00:30:14.799 --> 00:30:18.680 and Libra loves balance. Hone in on your harmonious energy and connect with your 416 00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:21.519 body on a deeper level. In other words, connect with yourself sexually and 417 00:30:21.640 --> 00:30:26.839 emotionally through rituals and simple things. Allow yourself to immerse in sexual self pleasure. 418 00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:30.440 Can we say that I just did scorpio? Here you go to All 419 00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:34.759 of this is just for you, all right on the beauty of voyeurism hard 420 00:30:34.839 --> 00:30:38.920 to read. Scorpios are mysterious and somewhat elusive. Maybe It's time to be 421 00:30:40.039 --> 00:30:45.599 more direct, whether you are, whether you ask a partner to man in 422 00:30:45.720 --> 00:30:52.960 front of you, or you just try a new genre. Ofor it is 423 00:30:52.039 --> 00:30:56.599 exciting discovery and connects you to your body, just in case you're disconnected from 424 00:30:56.640 --> 00:31:00.880 your body. Look, no, I don't want to look. I don't 425 00:31:00.880 --> 00:31:07.640 want to look at you. National mastering of of the baits, pleasure and 426 00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:14.599 of the baits. You're checking into the Bates Motel. This is the Scorpio 427 00:31:14.680 --> 00:31:18.920 month. I think this month is for us, all right, tatotarists, 428 00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:22.839 this is mine a fire sign for a reason. Satite Terius loves to challenge 429 00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:30.000 the boundaries and to explore. Luckily man, May is the month for exploring. 430 00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:34.920 Try elevating your routine by popping in. I can't say that great refue 431 00:31:38.039 --> 00:31:42.000 I can't say it's you started. No, I will finish it right there. 432 00:31:42.079 --> 00:31:45.559 I will in my career. Okay, that's I'm not gonna say that 433 00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:48.720 he will end his career with this. Uh P, are you gonna put 434 00:31:48.720 --> 00:31:52.359 it this way? Are you trying to If you had a back, if 435 00:31:52.359 --> 00:31:55.640 you had a bathtub and you were going to stop the water so it filled 436 00:31:55.680 --> 00:31:57.480 up the tub, what do you do to it. Oh no, no, 437 00:31:57.759 --> 00:32:07.759 no, Mo Capricorn. We'll just start. We'll stop with Capricorn. 438 00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:14.559 This is for Tony. Capricorns know that perseverance is everything this month, try 439 00:32:14.720 --> 00:32:19.720 edging using a toy. Pleasure yourself. Okay, good night, it's Later 440 00:32:19.799 --> 00:32:27.519 with Kelly. Look at the time. Look at it. I am six 441 00:32:27.599 --> 00:32:31.480 forty. We're not everywherey iHeartRadio app. You're listening to Later with Mo Kelly 442 00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:35.400 on demand from KFI a M six forty