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I thank you so much for clicking
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you guys are having a great weekend. We had an amazing show lined up

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for you. But before we get
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you. If you've had an encounter
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Head over to the website, check
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and help support the show. As
we've been talking about here on the show

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for the last month or so.
I will be out in Idaho coming up

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on August the twenty sixth at Squatch
Con Idaho along with doctor Jeff Meldrum,

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Cliff Barrickman, and Michael Freeman.
We all sat down and had a conversation

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with Stu and Brandon over at the
Beyond the Footprints podcast a couple of days

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ago. It was a great conversation, So I wanted to bring that to

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you guys this weekend. If you
haven't gotten your tickets and you're gonna be

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out in Idaho on the twenty sixth, you can head over to squatchcn Idaho

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dot com. The link will be
here in the show notes and you can

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pick up your tickets. And if
you can't be there in person and you

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still want to see this non interlaced
enhanced version of the Freeman Files and you

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want to see the round table with
me, Doctor Meldrum, Cliff Barrickman,

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and Michael Freeman. Just click that
link in the show notes and you can

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buy your virtual pass and be there
just like you would if you were there

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in person. But enough of that. I knew you guys are ready to

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get into it, so I'm gonna
let the music play. You gotta sit

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back, relax, and enjoy the
show. All right, Welcome to another

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episode of Beyond the Footprints, guys. Today, we have got a fabulous

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presentation and we have some really great
guests with us on. But I can't

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go without saying I've got one of
my favorite guys here with Mayhew is my

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co host, mister stew Johnson.
How you doing, Stu. Great to

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have this lineup that you're about to
talk about. Yeah, we're we have

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got a great show, guys.
We are so stoked to have all of

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these guys on here. As you
all know, we have Squatch Cohn twenty

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twenty three going to be coming up
here in Idaho called with All Idaho in

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the next three weeks, and we
wanted to make sure that so we got

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everybody on here right before to let
you guys know what they're all excited about

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and what we can be looking forward
to, and so without further ado,

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we're going to bring them on.
So we're just gonna go right down the

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line here. So we've got mister
Brian King Sharp with Sasquatch Odyssey. How

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you doing? I'm good, guys, how are you? And we've got

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mister Cliff Brackman, how you doing? Cliff? He all right, thanks

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for coming on. And we've got
mister Michael Freeman. How are you,

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sir? I'm doing all right.
How are you? Appreciate you taking the

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time. I know you're at work
and I just want to say thank you

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for doing that in the car in
the parking lot. Nice. And without

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further ado, we have got doctor
Deff Meldrum. How are you, Sarah.

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It's so good to see you,
my friend. I'm great, Thanks

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very much, Thank you again for
making this happen. Guys, this is

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something that we are so excited about, and I know a lot of our

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viewers and a lot of our fans
are going to be really excited about to

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see you guys in person and then
also to see you guys live online.

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So go right into it. So
squash kohn Idaho twenty twenty three is going

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to be coming up here on the
twenty sixth of August. What are you

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guys really excited about it? What
are you guys expecting? And just go

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from there. Who wants to go
first? I was just gonna say,

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rather than look around like the Brady
bunch and figure out who's gonna go first,

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I think I think, Brandon,
you gotta just ask each person.

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Cliff, let us know, my
friends, what are you thinking, how

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are you feeling about it? What
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looking forward to a lot of things, because conferences are are a weird thing

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for me. I do quite a
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isn't exactly your normal conference. From
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gonna be presentations per se, but
I guess we're gonna be going a panel

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that's largely focused on the Freeman footage. And I do think that the Freeman

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footage has perhaps actually Paul Freeman in
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that the Blue Mountain evidence in general
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because I think that the rumor mill
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of data than any other set of
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damaging than the Patterson Gimman film,
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is so much available in the Blue
Mountain data, and of course the Freeman

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footage is just one small piece of
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the rest of it like a jigsaw
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Freeman footage actually substantiates other evidence collected
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and I think that is something that's
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stuff. All Freeman just wasn't responsible
for all of that, just a significant

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portion of it. And to realize
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casting past watches, footprints over time
in various places, people unrelated to

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the big foot field having seen that
same individual's footprints, goes a long ways

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towards that, in my opinion,
authenticating the evidence. And again, it's

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just one piece in a puzzle.
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at the whole puzzle instead of one
little piece. Puzzles don't make sense when

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you look at one little piece.
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tell us a little bit about that, right, because he's talking about,

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like the whole entire puzzle. We
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us about that what they're going to
be able to see, right, We're

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not going to go really into too
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bit of a cliffinger, if you
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like. Yeah, we're obviously going
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that my dad captured in August of
nineteen ninety two, and we're going to

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look at it in a new way
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Unless you've had access to my book
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it's another presentation. You haven't seen
this yet. And so there's going to

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be some new enhancements, some new
things to look at, and it's going

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to be hopefully exciting for everyone in
cliffs right, But it is a puzzle.

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I talk about the Freeman footage all
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know everything about it. And so
it's nice to have the other distinguished members

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of the panel that are going to
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hear their opinion as well, and
maybe I haven't heard that yet, and

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maybe I can get some insight or
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So for me, it's always exciting
just to get someone else's opinion and to

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be able to sit down and look
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that's going to be there in person, and everyone that's going to purchase this

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online and take advantage of that,
it's probably going to be pleasantly surprised with

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what they get a chance to actually
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with the enhancements that we have now, yeah, I would totally agree.

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I think everyone of them has seen
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it couple times. Yeah, And
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concur with you, Mike that we're
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it. I was taken back and
I actually put it on my big screen

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TV and I had to watch it
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jaw dropping. And it's going to
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is going to be wanting to look
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and to be analyzed, if you
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captured and what your dad was able
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amazing. So yeah, you guys
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is something that is going to be
completely different than what has ever been done

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with any conference before, with it
being streamed alive, right and without you

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guys, we wouldn't be able to
make this happen. So honestly, from

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stew and my bottom of my heart
and our heart, thank you very much,

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Doctor Meldrum, tell us a little
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to when it comes to Squatch Cony
twenty three. Sure, I echo everything

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that was said previously by both Mike
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was making his comment about additional corroboration, oftentimes from independent investigators. I had

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made the acquaintance very early on in
my interaction with the characters there in the

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area in the Blue Mountains, and
just recently ran into one of those individuals

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again. His name's Kevin Lindley,
and he had done a lot of investigation

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related to, but independent of Paul
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Loury and so forth, and we
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held in Glide, Oregon, a
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and in his display, he had
a table to display some of his

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artifacts, had items right next to
mine. There was this cast he showed

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me. He described finding these footprints
way off the beaten path, but in

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the same general location. And here
was a foot that I immediately recognized,

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pointed out him. He hadn't realized
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our familiar faces or familiar feet.
I guess you'd say, this is the

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one that I guess got the greatest
notoriety as a wrinkle foot, as it

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was dubbed by doctor Krantz, who
thought it was an elderly female That remains

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to be seen. But there is
some evidence of some injury to the foot,

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some possibly relating to age arthritis,
and some onions form in and so

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on. But anyway, the point
was it was recognizably the same individual,

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and he had found this in a
but an interesting set of circumstances. But

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what really struck me was here were
the recognizable features of this foot, but

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in the circumstances it had caused the
toes to splay to a remarkable degree,

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perhaps some of the greatest range of
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and yet what struck me was no
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something like this such an odd looking
splay of the toes, extremesplay of the

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toes, and yet the individual anatomical
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articulation with the foot was clearly evidence. There was no question this was a

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very realistic, a very credible cast, a very good cast. Who points

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out one more piece of the puzzle
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yeah, the Blues hold a special
place in my art obviously because of my

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initial experiences there and the remarkable examples
of footprints that I observed firsthand, and

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then of course having had access to
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Paul and West and Bill and others. They're working within that region, so

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it's an exciting topic. I think
to really focus attention and as Cliff points

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out, give it its just dues
and recognize the impact the potential it has

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for impacting the credibility of this whole
argument. I traveled back and forth on

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the Blues Pass multiple times, two
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and seeing my grandmother lived up in
Kennewick, seeing my brother in law who

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lives in Hermiston. Every time that
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time that we looked over to the
right and we saw the beautiful mountain.

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Every time I saw that, I
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to be an abundance of elk deer, all sorts of wildlife. And then

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come to find out that Mike's dad
caught sasquatch on camera was just amazing to

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me. And it just added to
the excitement, right, and just that

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I don't know nostalgia. If you
will, I agree with you, doctor

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Meldium. It does hold the place
very special in my heart as well.

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And so these casts that you're talking
about, are these going to be cast

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that we're gonna be able to see
at Squatch Con. No, But what

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I probably will do in preparation,
I was permitted to photographs them and have

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some very good photographs, and all
what I thought I'd do is make print

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up some nice color photographs that can
be mounted and be almost as good as

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having the cast in front of you. But to illustrate that point and when

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the opportunity avails itself, Brian,
I know we've talked about this more than

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two or three times on each other's
podcast. But just tell us how excited

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you are about this, because I
know that you are and we've had multiple

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discussions about it, But what are
you excited about this con compared to everybody

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else's Very much like Cliff said,
I'm very excited that it's going to be

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something new. Right. We were
just up at the Gatlinburg conference together a

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couple of weeks ago, Cliff and
I and Renee and Matt, and it's

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a great experience. But this is
going to be something completely different that people

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have never seen before. I'm excited
about that. I'm really excited that the

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Freeman footage is going to get its
due as far as I'm concerned. Everybody

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talks about the Patterson Gimmlin film,
which is great, but I think this

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is just as important, if not
more important, in my opinion, as

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far as just a piece of the
pie, the piece of the puzzle.

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Like Cliff said, that a lot
of people aren't familiar with, and I

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was very glad that I was able
to have Michael on and talk about his

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book. That sort of reignited it
for me because I've seen this film,

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I'd seen this footage for ages just
like everybody else. But when Michael sent

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me the non end relaced version and
the version of the film that he's talking

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about that most people haven't seen,
I was blown away and it reignited that

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for me and really wanting to bring
it to the forefront and shout it to

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the rafters to people that there is
a lot out there to take a look

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at that people may not have seen. In this way Cliff set it on

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my show, the film is what
it is, The footage is what it

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is. There's nothing out there that's
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percent conclusive, but it is the
totality of the circumstances and the other evidence,

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like you said, that has been
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other than Paul Freeman. When you
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really does, in my opinion,
paint a huge picture. And I'm really

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excited to bring it to the forefront
and have everybody be able to take a

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look at it and to have people
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conversation and take questions and let people
be curious about it. I think that's

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really what it's about, is reigniting
the curiosity because I've said it on my

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show so many times recently. I
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line in bigfoot research forever and there's
very few things that have really moved the

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ball down the field and a lot
of people's opinions. And I think conversations

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like this and even taking a look
at something from nineteen ninety two may help

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push that down the field and get
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and looking at it in a different
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that, and I'm really excited about
the ability for people that can't be there

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in person to actually see it online. I think that's something that's I don't

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know that it's ever been done,
so just to be a part of that

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and for people to have the opportunity
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do that, I think it's huge. There's a ton of people out there.

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There's a whole gamut of people out
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talked about that before. I have
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know people listen to Cliff and Bobo
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kind of information and to be able
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like the people that are going to
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huge, so I'm excited about it. I'm really stoked to be a part

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of it. No. Absolutely,
you guys bring up some really good points

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of bringing all of the evidence to
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the puzzle pieces together. It's going
to help educate everybody around now. That's

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what it's all about, is bringing
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bringing it up to the forefront everybody's
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hey, these things really do exist, and it's gonna then bring others to

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be like, I'm really interested in
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podcast and it was talking about how
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thirteen who all of a sudden read
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oh my gosh, I want to
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was the same way. And what
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is we're going to be illuminating others
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said is finding other people out there
to take on that the next generation.

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Cliff, what can people expect with
your booth? They have the North American

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big Foot Center. This is an
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of merchandise in front of people.
If anybody purchases something for me, all

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the money goes to the North American
big Foot Center. And of course I'm

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available there to talk to you and
you can tell me your sasquatch stories and

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take a picture whatever you feel like. I'm just they're hanging out, honestly,

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It's what I do for the most
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you come by my table, you
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recently. You can ask me any
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pretty big planned for the next weekend
actually, which will bear directly onto what

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we're talking about, So you can
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be speaking about it a little bit
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So yeah, you basically have access
to bigfoot nerd at Run's Museum. So

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that's exciting, Doctor Meldrum. What
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Cliff makes that sounds so a philanthropic. I don't have a chill cupany

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So the money cuts in my pocket, it does help further research and projects

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and so forth. I have copies
of my books sasquash legimis science, which

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even though it may seem dated to
some, it's still I think is a

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very important to require reading or anyone
venturing into this topic. It stands apart

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from a lot of the proliferating titles
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I bring a certain skill set fare
on this question, and and all

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sorts of other fun things as well. This is a fascinating topic that has

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all kinds of dimensions, all sorts
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aesthetic to ethnographic and so on.
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generation, one of my projects was
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and activity books directed primarily for youngsters, those of reading age and up,

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but they're filled with such engaging artwork. I had the good fortune linking up

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with a very good artist and we
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page when it came to our vision
of how this could be portrayed. A

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whole series with an individual installment for
each of the principle relic commonoids, at

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least those for which we have some
intriguing evidence. There may even be more,

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depending on how you split hairs or
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A great opportunity to come by and
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of this fascinating mystery at home with
you. Yeah, Mike, what about

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you, sir? When people get
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what can they see? Oh,
they can see me? Number one.

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I plan on being there, and
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don't have a museum to run,
so all of my money goes to my

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wife, but that's where that's going
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books there. People can check that
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they want, and get some cool
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to that as well, Doctor Meldrom
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casts as well with me. And
one of the interesting things to correlate back

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to the conversation doctor Meldrum was having
about wrinkle Foot and the cast that the

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pastor Kevin Linley brought to Glide,
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as well to have at the table, so people can take a look at

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some other casts of wrinkle Foot and
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Meldrum is going to be able to
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own conclusions from there. But I'll
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books and maybe a few other trinkets, and if I'm lucky enough, maybe

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y'all let's bring a sasquatch body with
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Not to interrupt, but I gotta
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to jet off and leave you guys, but I look forward to seeing everybody

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there and calldwell in the twenty sixth
And for anyone that's listening, if you

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haven't got your tickets, go do
it. Yeah, thanks Mike, I

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really appreciate you taking the time.
Man. Have a good night. Brian,

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my friend. Are you going to
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live podcast at all, or you're
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No, I will be collecting stories, and I'm going to have to pack

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light because i'm flying in, so
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T shirts and maybe a couple of
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is just coming by and saying hey, and I love to hear stories face

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to face and talk about what's coming
up. I'm writing a book. It's

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not done yet, it'll probably be
next year before that's done. Just come

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by and say hello, And that's
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love to go to these things because
I love to connect with people in person

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and get to hang out with folks
face to face. We're excited to see

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a face to face. We're excited
to see every one of you, guys.

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Surely it's been an honor already,
Dr Meldrim meeting you, and I

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just can't wait to meet you Cliff
and Mike and gonna be amazing. And

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Brian, I'll be there to pick
you up at the airport, my friend,

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just getting me up to date with
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kind of go from there. But
with that being said, guys, we

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