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I thank you so much for clicking play. It is Sunday. I hope
you guys are having a great weekend. We had an amazing show lined up
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and help support the show. As we've been talking about here on the show
for the last month or so. I will be out in Idaho coming up
on August the twenty sixth at Squatch Con Idaho along with doctor Jeff Meldrum,
Cliff Barrickman, and Michael Freeman. We all sat down and had a conversation
with Stu and Brandon over at the Beyond the Footprints podcast a couple of days
ago. It was a great conversation, So I wanted to bring that to
you guys this weekend. If you haven't gotten your tickets and you're gonna be
out in Idaho on the twenty sixth, you can head over to squatchcn Idaho
dot com. The link will be here in the show notes and you can
pick up your tickets. And if you can't be there in person and you
still want to see this non interlaced enhanced version of the Freeman Files and you
want to see the round table with me, Doctor Meldrum, Cliff Barrickman,
and Michael Freeman. Just click that link in the show notes and you can
buy your virtual pass and be there just like you would if you were there
in person. But enough of that. I knew you guys are ready to
get into it, so I'm gonna let the music play. You gotta sit
back, relax, and enjoy the show. All right, Welcome to another
episode of Beyond the Footprints, guys. Today, we have got a fabulous
presentation and we have some really great guests with us on. But I can't
go without saying I've got one of my favorite guys here with Mayhew is my
co host, mister stew Johnson. How you doing, Stu. Great to
have this lineup that you're about to talk about. Yeah, we're we have
got a great show, guys. We are so stoked to have all of
these guys on here. As you all know, we have Squatch Cohn twenty
twenty three going to be coming up here in Idaho called with All Idaho in
the next three weeks, and we wanted to make sure that so we got
everybody on here right before to let you guys know what they're all excited about
and what we can be looking forward to, and so without further ado,
we're going to bring them on. So we're just gonna go right down the
line here. So we've got mister Brian King Sharp with Sasquatch Odyssey. How
you doing? I'm good, guys, how are you? And we've got
mister Cliff Brackman, how you doing? Cliff? He all right, thanks
for coming on. And we've got mister Michael Freeman. How are you,
sir? I'm doing all right. How are you? Appreciate you taking the
time. I know you're at work and I just want to say thank you
for doing that in the car in the parking lot. Nice. And without
further ado, we have got doctor Deff Meldrum. How are you, Sarah.
It's so good to see you, my friend. I'm great, Thanks
very much, Thank you again for making this happen. Guys, this is
something that we are so excited about, and I know a lot of our
viewers and a lot of our fans are going to be really excited about to
see you guys in person and then also to see you guys live online.
So go right into it. So squash kohn Idaho twenty twenty three is going
to be coming up here on the twenty sixth of August. What are you
guys really excited about it? What are you guys expecting? And just go
from there. Who wants to go first? I was just gonna say,
rather than look around like the Brady bunch and figure out who's gonna go first,
I think I think, Brandon, you gotta just ask each person.
Cliff, let us know, my friends, what are you thinking, how
are you feeling about it? What are you looking forward to? And I'm
looking forward to a lot of things, because conferences are are a weird thing
for me. I do quite a few of them and stuff, and this
isn't exactly your normal conference. From unders stand, I guess that there's not
gonna be presentations per se, but I guess we're gonna be going a panel
that's largely focused on the Freeman footage. And I do think that the Freeman
footage has perhaps actually Paul Freeman in general, and I'm gonna go bigger than
that the Blue Mountain evidence in general has not been given perhaps a fair shake,
because I think that the rumor mill has done more to damage this set
of data than any other set of data, probably even more, probably more
damaging than the Patterson Gimman film, because there is so much here. There
is so much available in the Blue Mountain data, and of course the Freeman
footage is just one small piece of that, and the Freeman footage fits into
the rest of it like a jigsaw puzzle piece fits into a puzzle. The
Freeman footage actually substantiates other evidence collected by other people in the Blue Mountains,
and I think that is something that's overlooked because it is not all Paul Freeman
stuff. All Freeman just wasn't responsible for all of that, just a significant
portion of it. And to realize that other people were there doing similar things,
casting past watches, footprints over time in various places, people unrelated to
the big foot field having seen that same individual's footprints, goes a long ways
towards that, in my opinion, authenticating the evidence. And again, it's
just one piece in a puzzle. Then you have to stand back to look
at the whole puzzle instead of one little piece. Puzzles don't make sense when
you look at one little piece. After all, Yeah, exactly, Mike
tell us a little bit about that, right, because he's talking about,
like the whole entire puzzle. We can't look at it one piece. Tell
us about that what they're going to be able to see, right, We're
not going to go really into too much depth, but give us a little
bit of a cliffinger, if you will, and what that's going to look
like. Yeah, we're obviously going to take a look at the Freeman's footage
that my dad captured in August of nineteen ninety two, and we're going to
look at it in a new way that a lot of people haven't seen yet.
Unless you've had access to my book or you've seen me in person,
it's another presentation. You haven't seen this yet. And so there's going to
be some new enhancements, some new things to look at, and it's going
to be hopefully exciting for everyone in cliffs right, But it is a puzzle.
I talk about the Freeman footage all the time, but I don't even
know everything about it. And so it's nice to have the other distinguished members
of the panel that are going to be there with me, so I can
hear their opinion as well, and maybe I haven't heard that yet, and
maybe I can get some insight or something I've overlooked or haven't notice before.
So for me, it's always exciting just to get someone else's opinion and to
be able to sit down and look at that. But I think that everyone
that's going to be there in person, and everyone that's going to purchase this
online and take advantage of that, it's probably going to be pleasantly surprised with
what they get a chance to actually look at when reviewing this film again,
with the enhancements that we have now, yeah, I would totally agree.
I think everyone of them has seen it, is that correct. I've seen
it couple times. Yeah, And I think that we can all agree and
concur with you, Mike that we're gonna we were pleasantly surprised when we saw
it. I was taken back and I actually put it on my big screen
TV and I had to watch it over and over again because it was just
jaw dropping. And it's going to be something that everyone, I feel,
is going to be wanting to look at. It's deserved to be looked at
and to be analyzed, if you will, because it is remarkable what was
captured and what your dad was able to get. So it's going to be
amazing. So yeah, you guys have done a lot of these and this
is something that is going to be completely different than what has ever been done
with any conference before, with it being streamed alive, right and without you
guys, we wouldn't be able to make this happen. So honestly, from
stew and my bottom of my heart and our heart, thank you very much,
Doctor Meldrum, tell us a little bit about what you are looking forward
to when it comes to Squatch Cony twenty three. Sure, I echo everything
that was said previously by both Mike and Cliff. I was struck as Cliff
was making his comment about additional corroboration, oftentimes from independent investigators. I had
made the acquaintance very early on in my interaction with the characters there in the
area in the Blue Mountains, and just recently ran into one of those individuals
again. His name's Kevin Lindley, and he had done a lot of investigation
related to, but independent of Paul and the other players like Wes and Bill
Loury and so forth, and we bumped into each other at a conference was
held in Glide, Oregon, a little hamlet a couple hours south of Eugene,
and in his display, he had a table to display some of his
artifacts, had items right next to mine. There was this cast he showed
me. He described finding these footprints way off the beaten path, but in
the same general location. And here was a foot that I immediately recognized,
pointed out him. He hadn't realized it himself, that it was one of
our familiar faces or familiar feet. I guess you'd say, this is the
one that I guess got the greatest notoriety as a wrinkle foot, as it
was dubbed by doctor Krantz, who thought it was an elderly female That remains
to be seen. But there is some evidence of some injury to the foot,
some possibly relating to age arthritis, and some onions form in and so
on. But anyway, the point was it was recognizably the same individual,
and he had found this in a but an interesting set of circumstances. But
what really struck me was here were the recognizable features of this foot, but
in the circumstances it had caused the toes to splay to a remarkable degree,
perhaps some of the greatest range of splay that I've witnessed in a sasquatch foot,
and yet what struck me was no one in the right mind would concoct
something like this such an odd looking splay of the toes, extremesplay of the
toes, and yet the individual anatomical features of each of those toes and their
articulation with the foot was clearly evidence. There was no question this was a
very realistic, a very credible cast, a very good cast. Who points
out one more piece of the puzzle that correlates with so many others. And
yeah, the Blues hold a special place in my art obviously because of my
initial experiences there and the remarkable examples of footprints that I observed firsthand, and
then of course having had access to so much by way of materials collected by
Paul and West and Bill and others. They're working within that region, so
it's an exciting topic. I think to really focus attention and as Cliff points
out, give it its just dues and recognize the impact the potential it has
for impacting the credibility of this whole argument. I traveled back and forth on
the Blues Pass multiple times, two or three times a year, going back
and seeing my grandmother lived up in Kennewick, seeing my brother in law who
lives in Hermiston. Every time that we came to the top, and every
time that we looked over to the right and we saw the beautiful mountain.
Every time I saw that, I said, you know what, there's got
to be an abundance of elk deer, all sorts of wildlife. And then
come to find out that Mike's dad caught sasquatch on camera was just amazing to
me. And it just added to the excitement, right, and just that
I don't know nostalgia. If you will, I agree with you, doctor
Meldium. It does hold the place very special in my heart as well.
And so these casts that you're talking about, are these going to be cast
that we're gonna be able to see at Squatch Con. No, But what
I probably will do in preparation, I was permitted to photographs them and have
some very good photographs, and all what I thought I'd do is make print
up some nice color photographs that can be mounted and be almost as good as
having the cast in front of you. But to illustrate that point and when
the opportunity avails itself, Brian, I know we've talked about this more than
two or three times on each other's podcast. But just tell us how excited
you are about this, because I know that you are and we've had multiple
discussions about it, But what are you excited about this con compared to everybody
else's Very much like Cliff said, I'm very excited that it's going to be
something new. Right. We were just up at the Gatlinburg conference together a
couple of weeks ago, Cliff and I and Renee and Matt, and it's
a great experience. But this is going to be something completely different that people
have never seen before. I'm excited about that. I'm really excited that the
Freeman footage is going to get its due as far as I'm concerned. Everybody
talks about the Patterson Gimmlin film, which is great, but I think this
is just as important, if not more important, in my opinion, as
far as just a piece of the pie, the piece of the puzzle.
Like Cliff said, that a lot of people aren't familiar with, and I
was very glad that I was able to have Michael on and talk about his
book. That sort of reignited it for me because I've seen this film,
I'd seen this footage for ages just like everybody else. But when Michael sent
me the non end relaced version and the version of the film that he's talking
about that most people haven't seen, I was blown away and it reignited that
for me and really wanting to bring it to the forefront and shout it to
the rafters to people that there is a lot out there to take a look
at that people may not have seen. In this way Cliff set it on
my show, the film is what it is, The footage is what it
is. There's nothing out there that's on film that's going to be one hundred
percent conclusive, but it is the totality of the circumstances and the other evidence,
like you said, that has been collected from that area by other people
other than Paul Freeman. When you put all of that stuff together, it
really does, in my opinion, paint a huge picture. And I'm really
excited to bring it to the forefront and have everybody be able to take a
look at it and to have people on on the panel that can have that
conversation and take questions and let people be curious about it. I think that's
really what it's about, is reigniting the curiosity because I've said it on my
show so many times recently. I feel like we've been on the five yard
line in bigfoot research forever and there's very few things that have really moved the
ball down the field and a lot of people's opinions. And I think conversations
like this and even taking a look at something from nineteen ninety two may help
push that down the field and get a new generation of people talking about something
and looking at it in a different way. Yeah, I'm really stoked about
that, and I'm really excited about the ability for people that can't be there
in person to actually see it online. I think that's something that's I don't
know that it's ever been done, so just to be a part of that
and for people to have the opportunity that would not normally get an opportunity to
do that, I think it's huge. There's a ton of people out there.
There's a whole gamut of people out in the UK. You and I've
talked about that before. I have tons of listeners in the UK. I
know people listen to Cliff and Bobo from the UK and they're hungry for this
kind of information and to be able to access that in real time, just
like the people that are going to be there in person. I think it's
huge, so I'm excited about it. I'm really stoked to be a part
of it. No. Absolutely, you guys bring up some really good points
of bringing all of the evidence to make a conclusion, to bring all of
the puzzle pieces together. It's going to help educate everybody around now. That's
what it's all about, is bringing the facts to everybody's knowledge, right,
bringing it up to the forefront everybody's mind so they can actually see that,
hey, these things really do exist, and it's gonna then bring others to
be like, I'm really interested in this. Like I was listening to another
podcast and it was talking about how this guy was reading the book at each
thirteen who all of a sudden read it, believed it and was like,
oh my gosh, I want to find out more about these things. I
was the same way. And what we're going to be doing at this SQUATCHCN
is we're going to be illuminating others out there, and like what doctor Meldrum
said is finding other people out there to take on that the next generation.
Cliff, what can people expect with your booth? They have the North American
big Foot Center. This is an opportunity for me to put a little bit
of merchandise in front of people. If anybody purchases something for me, all
the money goes to the North American big Foot Center. And of course I'm
available there to talk to you and you can tell me your sasquatch stories and
take a picture whatever you feel like. I'm just they're hanging out, honestly,
It's what I do for the most part. So yeah, So if
you come by my table, you can ask me what I've been up to
recently. You can ask me any about any new projects. I've got something
pretty big planned for the next weekend actually, which will bear directly onto what
we're talking about, So you can ask me about that project. I'll probably
be speaking about it a little bit to some degree during our battle discussion.
So yeah, you basically have access to bigfoot nerd at Run's Museum. So
that's exciting, Doctor Meldrum. What can they expect that your booth? Yeah,
Cliff makes that sounds so a philanthropic. I don't have a chill cupany
So the money cuts in my pocket, it does help further research and projects
and so forth. I have copies of my books sasquash legimis science, which
even though it may seem dated to some, it's still I think is a
very important to require reading or anyone venturing into this topic. It stands apart
from a lot of the proliferating titles that are out there in a particular way.
I bring a certain skill set fare on this question, and and all
sorts of other fun things as well. This is a fascinating topic that has
all kinds of dimensions, all sorts of layers of interest, from scientific to
aesthetic to ethnographic and so on. And as we were talking about the next
generation, one of my projects was the creation of a series of fun learning
and activity books directed primarily for youngsters, those of reading age and up,
but they're filled with such engaging artwork. I had the good fortune linking up
with a very good artist and we really were literally and figuratively on the same
page when it came to our vision of how this could be portrayed. A
whole series with an individual installment for each of the principle relic commonoids, at
least those for which we have some intriguing evidence. There may even be more,
depending on how you split hairs or or identify particular pieces of evidence.
A great opportunity to come by and chat and get acquainted and take a piece
of this fascinating mystery at home with you. Yeah, Mike, what about
you, sir? When people get to come over and see your booth,
what can they see? Oh, they can see me? Number one.
I plan on being there, and I guess i'mlike Cliff as well. I
don't have a museum to run, so all of my money goes to my
wife, but that's where that's going to go. I'll have some of my
books there. People can check that out and take one of those home if
they want, and get some cool signatures from some of the people that contributed
to that as well, Doctor Meldrom and Cliff. And I'll have some footprint
casts as well with me. And one of the interesting things to correlate back
to the conversation doctor Meldrum was having about wrinkle Foot and the cast that the
pastor Kevin Linley brought to Glide, I'll bring some other examples of that individual
as well to have at the table, so people can take a look at
some other casts of wrinkle Foot and hopefully compare them to the pictures that doctor
Meldrum is going to be able to bring, and then you can draw your
own conclusions from there. But I'll have some casts, and I'll have some
books and maybe a few other trinkets, and if I'm lucky enough, maybe
y'all let's bring a sasquatch body with me as well. There you go.
Not to interrupt, but I gotta go back to work. I'm gonna have
to jet off and leave you guys, but I look forward to seeing everybody
there and calldwell in the twenty sixth And for anyone that's listening, if you
haven't got your tickets, go do it. Yeah, thanks Mike, I
really appreciate you taking the time. Man. Have a good night. Brian,
my friend. Are you going to be doing a live broadcast, a
live podcast at all, or you're gonna be doing anything at your booth?
No, I will be collecting stories, and I'm going to have to pack
light because i'm flying in, so I'll probably bring some sasquatch out to see,
T shirts and maybe a couple of other things. And the main thing
is just coming by and saying hey, and I love to hear stories face
to face and talk about what's coming up. I'm writing a book. It's
not done yet, it'll probably be next year before that's done. Just come
by and say hello, And that's really the main thing for me. I
love to go to these things because I love to connect with people in person
and get to hang out with folks face to face. We're excited to see
a face to face. We're excited to see every one of you, guys.
Surely it's been an honor already, Dr Meldrim meeting you, and I
just can't wait to meet you Cliff and Mike and gonna be amazing. And
Brian, I'll be there to pick you up at the airport, my friend,
just getting me up to date with your itinerary and whatnot, and we're
kind of go from there. But with that being said, guys, we
got you a little over. But thank you so much for doing this and
getting on and letting our viewers and all of our fans and everybody know what
they can be looking forward to in person and online. And with that,
you guys have a wonderful night, and thank you so much. So we're
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