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How you doing out there? It's
me Tigger, I'm dark Wayne Duck.

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It's me Bunkers keep bobcat. All
right, y'all, did it rate your

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favorite firefly? You design? Hold
the old knock got. My name is

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Jim Cummings and welcome to tune Jim. All right, so you're just gonna

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you're just gonna take it away,
right, we're just gonna bullshit. We've

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already started. We're already going.
Well, this is right on, all

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right, Douglas hold on, yeah, I didn't know Douglas. Well maybe

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I guess it's welcome to tune in
with Jim Cummings and world famous drum roll.

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I don't have my sticks with me
Nolan North. Ladies and gentlemen,

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you'll feel the difference. Nolan North. We got Norland North today on the

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podcast. Everybody, Uh yeah you
do. That's me no known most for

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uncharted, right, Nathan Drake.
I think so yeah, I mean I

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think that's uh, you know,
everybody we got, like you know,

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you try to get at least one, unlike some people like Harrison Ford has

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a couple, or or say Jim
Cummings, who has several. Yeah,

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make geez, you know like there's
Han Solo Everson for it is Hans Solo

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in Indiana Jones. But I think
pooh Tigger dark winged. Yes, oh,

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I mean I do. I this
is weird that. Yeah, I'm

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it's okay, what do you want
me to hear? Well, here's the

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thing, here's the thing. We're
talking like how he's talking, of course

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talking, he's scamming everybody where where
am I supposed to look? Yeah?

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Because guess what his line was twice
as long as mine. So shut up,

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all right because you've done it longer. Yeah. Yeah, they're all

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sicking me out there. But no, well that's it always, well,

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that's always that's always the case.
But yeah, it's good. You know,

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I realize I don't think we ever
worked on a cartoon together. But

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I know you so well from being
at these crazy conventions. With the conventions

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I think, I don't you know, I've looked at different things. Well,

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first of all, a lot of
people don't realize that I don't think

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we've ever had a an animated series
where we've been in the same room.

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Of course, that that's long gone. Now everybody zooms it and you know,

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and it's um. But I actually
remember uh, talking to my agent

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one time and said something about it
something I don't remember what the project was.

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It might have been, uh like
the TMNT movie or something, and

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and she said, oh, yeah, Jim, Jim Cummings like that thing

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you did. And I'm like,
wait, I swear this is true,

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and I'll pray embarrass your But I
was like, wait, she looks like

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me. She was one. I
go, Jim Cummings knows who I am.

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Oh yeah, and I told you
there years ago. Us No,

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but no. But people don't realize. You know, we come to these

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you know, conventions and you meet
fans, and they don't realize that people

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are we're fans of the people we've
you know. I mean so when I

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when I think about Peter Cullen or
Welko or Maurice or Paulson, you I

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mean, I mean then Tress and
and Jesse little bit. Yeah. Sorry,

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it's just mostly I don't know if
I love Jess or the outfits more.

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Yes, uh one and the same
I suppose. Yes. I was

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gonna say he's a package deal.
People, people who don't know the outfits,

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can you guys describe what kind of
stuff he wears? But I don't

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know. It's it's like, uh, well you've been to Marty grom Okay,

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just okay, because yeah, you
know, you know the beads that's

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his out. Yeah, that's yeah, that's pretty much. I thought that

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was out. They're they're bright,
Uh they are, they are something special,

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but they are. I don't think
people realize how much of a fan

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we are of each other, mostly
especially the one generation up to the next.

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And it's just, you know,
the body of work that you see

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people do. And we've talked about
Winnie the Pooh and taker how my wife

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and I raised our kids on his
version, and it's like and it's just

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it's like there is there's I'm mean, got it. I mean, it's

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just nobody else can do it that
way. Everybody else is doing an impression.

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Yeah, they got exactly some minor
job security there. The next they've

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tried and by the way, ladies
and gentlemen, they tried, trust me,

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they've tried. But it's like,
I mean, and the good thing

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in this business for the most part, knock on wood. I've had gotten,

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you know, auditions, they said
they want you to do uh Scooby,

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what you said, I'm like,
does Frank know about this, I

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think. So I'm like, I'll
call them. Yeah, they're gonna have

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you read for Pooh. And I'm
like, does Jim know? Yeah,

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and and and invariably if you come
up and people go that actually happened,

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Oh yeah, no, no,
no, no, um, there was.

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Well I knew, yes, there
was. Something came out and they

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wanted and well, that's it,
that's it. That was It was a

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story what happened. When John Fiedler
passed away. They were looking for other

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characters and they want that. Disney
wanted back up. He was Piglet by

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the way. Yeah, and they
wanted backups. And I remember just going

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does everybody know about it? And
my agents were really good and they said

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we'll find out, and they've said
they're not happy about it. I said,

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then I don't want any part of
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of it. And the only one
that ever they ever asked me to do,

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and uh, Pat Brady, my
agent, she had told me,

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uh was Wayne all Wine. Uh. They wanted he wanted Mickey. And

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Wayne was aware of it that up
actually yeah, and Wayne was was aware

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of it, and so I with
his blessing, I auditioned, but I

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said, I told them because I
told her because they she knew Rucy Taylor,

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who was Wayne's wife at the time, and May and Minny were married

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in real life by the way,
which is you know. And I had

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like eleven auditions and they said,
yeah, that's gonna be You're gonna do

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that. And I was like wow, and and I said listen, and

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I told the agents that said,
let Wayne know I don't want anything job

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that I he will know any thing
we get that they want me to do.

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I want to make sure he's doesn't
want to do it or not.

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And he was cool with that,
that's fine. And he passed away like

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a month later, and we kind
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um Bob Iger decided like, no, we're gonna go a whole new direction

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and h a new direction. So
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I was gonna say, you have
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on the money. Well, you
know, well they have a great guy

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now, I guess. I mean
he's he's he's he's done a good job.

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But it's like, so you know, you don't And I'm happy because

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I think it may been uh,
you know, probably the best job I

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never got, because I just you
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the opportunity I've been doing other things. And that's a great thing about this

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business. I think, you know, we we there's there is, for

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the most part, a mutual respect. Yet I wouldn't and I've told him

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right to his face. I read
the Pooh and we need to and I'll

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do take her and I'll do my
thing. But it's like, I know

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I'm just doing I'm doing a bad
impression to him. Like I told Steve

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Bloom, who's Wolverine? And oh, yes, I said the Wolverine.

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They'll get auditions and I'm like,
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you're gonna pass them, Like I'm
gonna do a bad Steve Bloom impression.

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Yeah, So I don't want to
do that. Yeah, I don't want

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to do that. So it's you
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we don't. It's just well,
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recast The Simpsons a long time ago. I got a big ten twelve years

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ago, and uh, and it
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right, God forbid you know,
it's the biggest show on television.

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Can we get double scale? Of
course to get this shit done Martin double

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scale. Yeah. But but anyway, they uh, they went out there

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and they said, well, what
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And and I and my agent at
the time sent me there to Fox and

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I didn't know what it was for. And and they had all the Simpson

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sides, all the pictures of all
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going, why why what is this
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can you do a good home?
And I go, I do an incredibly

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good Homer. I'm so not gonna
do this. I can't even begin to

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tell you how much I'm in fact, I'm already not doing it. I'm

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starting right now not doing it.
Well. First of all, the problem

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with companies doing that they have to
realize what they when they call other voice

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actors in yeah, we know,
it's because you don't want to pay them

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what the worthy. So what you're
saying in retrospect is like, hey,

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Jim, you're you're, you're,
you're a cheaper option than what we had.

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You'll take the money. It's like
no, And that makes me say,

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don't you know see oh there you
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was similar to a joke. Yeah, you know, but yeah, I

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just so we never that was something
that we just I just never was interested.

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And then you know, I remember
and the other thing about it that

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I like about it. Somebody asked
me, have you ever done Futurama?

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And I said, you know,
I actually read years ago for Bender and

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I don't remember what I did,
but I just know that it was not

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as good at what John Demaggio does. Yeah, and you know there's there's

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and I love that about Fred tattersh
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we've been up for the same agency. We've kind of came up together,

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and you know, we'll sit there
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said, he's like, oh,
I'm doing this new cartoon. I said,

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oh, I read for that character. What you do He said,

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well, this voice. I'm like, oh, I did this kind of

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thing. And I'm like, I
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no, I like yours better.
I'm like, well they liked yours better.

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Yeah, well they hired you.
So yeah. And the funny thing

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is what happens though, is at
some point, you know, and I

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tell people when they audition just do
your version, do something good. Because

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a couple of shows that he's gotten, I've gone in as a bunch of

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recurring characters. So I've done a
bunch of those episodes, and then there's

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been roles I've gotten, and sure
enough Fred shows up at the session doing

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the different guest star roles or recurring
things. If you just can get in

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the whole the pool with everybody,
you don't always have to be the lead

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character. Yeah, and I sometimes
I like some of the smaller roles just

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because you're you're doing more off the
walls. Speaking of smaller roles in Zani

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in this, you play quite a
few characters on Rick and Morty. Yeah,

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Yeah, that's a perfect example,
you know what I mean. Um,

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actually that ties in a bunch of
things because they had a bunch of

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auditions for Rick and Morty sound alikes
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and I I just passed on it. I was just like, look,

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number one, I don't know if
I could do it great. Number two,

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it's really hard because like you know, Rick's always like doing Yeah it

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does the Burbs and it's really and
there. And I've met people I know

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do it better. But the other
thing is just like you know, Royland

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and all those people at that show. You know, they'll call me and

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like, hey, we have three
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different characters, and and uh,
you know, and yeah that sounds great

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and it's it's less heavy lifted,
gotta you know. And it's so cool

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because they just will hire me on
it and they'll be like, okay,

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so what's the first character. And
it's like, oh, he's like so

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just we have this teenage kid.
He's sitting on the couch and you know,

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he's like, you know, he
s gets you do something kind of

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nervous. Yeah, it's like,
what are we gonna do? I don't

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know, you know. And then
and they I'm the vice president. I'm

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the vice president. And then and
he's they showed me the artwork and he

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just looks like this massive he's got
a big warden. It's very big,

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note perfect. And I looked like
Tip O'Neill if they scrunched him down to

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about five feet tall. And uh, and I said, you know what,

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you know, who needs to be
in the White House? And this

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is this is literally how we got
the character, said ross Pero. We

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gotta bring him. Sear did like
a rash per and it just became that

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this thing and that's the vice president. So it's key. So h Keith

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David is the president Ricord Morty and
I'm his little vice president. That's you

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know, just little these little parts
and it's so yeah, I know him

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as doctor Fasiliers send a frock.
Yeah cool dude. Yeah, so I

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didn't know he was. I didn't
know that. Yeah. So no,

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so this, you know, there's
the Rick and Morty. Playing these little

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incidental characters sometimes can be uh great. When after I did the TMNT movie

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in two thousand and seven, is
Raphael, they started a series and everyone

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said, oh, you guys are
gonna do the series. I'm like,

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I don't know. But it was
a different set of producers and you realize

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they're going to do their own direction. And so Sean Aston ended up going

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as Raphael did a great job,
and but they hired they hired me to

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do uh the krang. So so
Krang, I do all the krang And

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it was like Krang would have like
two three lines say yeah perfect, yeah,

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and you'll be like it was great. So I was in a bunch

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of episodes and yeah, I got
like those guys are like, hey,

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enjoy your four hour session. You
know Hal Smith rang has a tea time.

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Oh yeah, yeah, Hal Smith, the great Hal Smith. He

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was Otis Campbell on on the Andy
Griffiths Show way back when. Well he

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was the original um uh owl in
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he was still around. John Fieler

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was still around, God bless him
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So I was this poom and way
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know, we're all sitting there and
we all did it together, which I

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really like. I like it when
the whole cast is better. Ensemble casts

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way much much better. And Hal
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it was Andrea Romano and she said, well, hell, do you want

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to just pick up your line?
And and oh sure, sure, sure,

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I'll get it done. So he
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of there and I and I saw
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man, I was really sorry that
you had to just do that one line

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and go, he goes, not
me. It pays the same as if

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I was on every page. Good
night, kid. I gotta go,

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you know, and I went,
oh, yeah, never mind, yeah,

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never mind, yeah, got it, Ding ding ding. Must remember

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that. I remember one of my
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and I don't know who did it, and you tell me, but was

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it was an incidental one in Winnie
the Pooh and it was, um the

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groundhog, you know, where do
you want it? Where do you want

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to him? Michael Goff? Is
that who the Michael? Yeah, okay,

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yeah, Showy Shay, Yeah,
yeah, that's a good one.

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You know something poo ish Shay and
he's like, because there's one thing where

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he's moving this thing and where do
you want it? My wife still lasts

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about like when I'm lifting something,
I go, where do you want it?

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Yeah, Shay poo is shilly.
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love that. And I remember reading
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there, yeah, gopher, gopher, groundhog? What's wrong with me?

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I know it's gopher. It's just
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uh, you know, you go
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Winnie the Pooh series. I mean, I a matter of fact, I

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just we still have them. It's
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It was so much fun, you
know, to do Christopher Roman and you

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know, I mean I do all
they do my own version, but watch

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them. I remember my kids with
their little banking in their mouth and I'm

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just reading these like oh and and
and it was just to do those voices.

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fun to do that, and it
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like it was great, you know
extra Yeah, well that's very therapy.

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Yeah, it was good therapy for
Yeah. Well, looking at your credits

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in your career, it strikes me
as like you're really good at impressions,

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like, well, yeah, where
did that? Where did that? Kind

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of can because Jim talks about you
know, some of the very ones that

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you've done that are just knocked me
out. Well, you've got walking in

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and you talk about Jim two.
Sorry, you talk about Jim too.

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A lot of your voices, you
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or people you grew up with.
That was me. Yeah, yeah,

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so that's similar to you. I
yeah, no, my uncle bought from

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he had his mass here's a talk
just like this. I mean, it

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was great you know, yeah,
and it was really loud because he had

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a hearing problem, so everything was
very loud and as an accent, wicked

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bad. So I mean TMNT I
was mentioned earlier Repel there's a guy who

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talking it's kind of this is kind
of this New York kind of thing like

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this. Yes, and that's a
kid I went to high school with.

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Yeah, he sounded just like this. I mean that, I mean yeah,

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anyway, So but impressions, Yeah, I always liked him. I

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always like there were certain ones I
could do. I think the first one

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I ever did was just goofing around
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haven't done it was it was just
gaise occasion. It became today on Mary

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and you know, now it's time
what was it? Now it's time for

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a long distance dedicasion. This one
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and then and then and then I
remember it went to Johnny because I used

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to watch um Tred McMahon. No, but who no, no mcmah,

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but who did Kevin No? No
impression is rich little great Johnny Kushin.

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I remember watch him do that.
No, this is weird and one of

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the lunch times. Um I did
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and adjacent and Atlantash that is weird. Alan is a great story. Yet

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and somebody went, who's that?
I said, it's Johnny Carson. They

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go, who's Johnny Carson. I
was like, get out. Yeah,

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And I just went and drank in
a dark room alone, going oh,

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I hold this for me. Yeah
yeah, oh he's sleeping. It's like,

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well, you but you didn't know
you know who's I knew Steve Allen,

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I knew who that was. Okay, yeah, I actually know history.

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Read a book. Yeah anyway something, um but you know, uh,

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And yes, there was a time
where we had voice matches and it

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was the strangest audition process you've ever
seen, because like six seven, a

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dozen guys could show up and they
say, hey, they need you down

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at Sony Audition to work. I'm
like really, And we'd go down and

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it became the same cast of characters. It would be tad as Shure,

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there'd be a bunch of different people. You walk in, who are we

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doing today? And I did Christopher
Walking right, that's for a couple of

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things. And I ended up doing
this thing because everybody did the Christopher walking

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up here guys. Wow. But
what happens is when he gets down,

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he gets he gets serious when he's
talking. And the first one was with

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Tony Scott Man on Fire and he
was in a gospel man. They took

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her creasy. The funny story behind
it was like, that was the line,

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they took her crazy? Where's the
girl? They took her creasy?

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And yeah, But the funny thing
about it is, I asked, I

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said, so I had never done. It was my first one for him

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and I said so, I've never
So we're just replacing that one line.

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And in the adr director was like, yeah, so I said, what

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happened? He said, oh,
it's pretty funny. I actually watch and

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they showed me a couple of outclick
takes it and his Denzel Washington goes it

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just Ranke leans over. He goes, where's the girl? It killed her

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crazy? And they're like cat and
you him, you ever been laughing?

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And he starts laughing. He's like, oh, they didn't kill her.

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The guys, I no, okay, go deep, where's the girl?

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They cut a hat off crazy?
She's dead. He starts laughing, and

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you're like watching and You're getting to
see this behind the scenes thing, and

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I'm like, this is hysterical.
Yeah, and apparently they just finally called

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it and like he's never gonna say
it, everyone got the giggles. So

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yeah, and they forgot to pick
it up. So I came in,

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they speckled it up, and I
get residuals on that forever. Now for

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one line. Yeah, yeah,
I've done about six of his movies.

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Um, that's Travolta. Um,
not like you know, Vinnie Babarino,

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but John Travolta kind of sounds like
this and if you put that, And

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that's the weirdest thing is, I
don't see it until they played my voice

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back through his face and I literally
went, oh my god, it sounds

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just like him and Tony Scott.
I was doing it with Tony Scott and

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he goes, he goes, that's
right, mate, that's why you're here.

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And I was like, right,
but that's really sounds like he thought

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that was hysterically and he was like
no. I was like, it blew

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me away. So if you ever
see Taking of Pelham one, two,

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three yea on television, because what
Tony Scott would do, yeah, not

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the original Okay, the one with
with Travolta, John Taturo, Denzel Washington

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remake. Yeah, so Tony Scott
would never edit a movie like hey,

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let me tell you something, mother
Fletcher, you know and they or something

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like that. Yeah. Uh,
he would recut the movie and uh so

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you wouldn't see the dubs he would
take. He would take that line off

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cut to an and somebody else,
and they had me redo it, and

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unfortunately was sad. Travolta was going
to come back and cover a lot of

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the stuff, and then his son
passed away and they called me back in.

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They said, we're gonna go back
over this again because he's not gonna

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be able to do it. We
need to release this. And again it's

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gonna be you. And so if
you hear that movie, you'll see him

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yelling, what are you gonna do? Carver? You're gonna shoot me?

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And I remember watching it going wow, that sounds just like him. Yeah,

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that's good and it's not like but
it's not like a you know,

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hey, can you do that impression? Because people got I think it sounds

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like him, it's not. It
doesn't have that. There's nothing really remarkable

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about if they bought it. They
bought it. Yeah, but it's just

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it's just a funny, funny business. And Ross mark One has done it

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for Oh yeah, he's done a
bunch. He's really good. He's an

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amazing impressionist. Yeah, he does
like John c Riley and different things like

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that. Yeah. Yeah, John
c Riley is the one that kills me.

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That in Malkovich, he does a
great John Malkovich. Yes, oh

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god, yes, what are you
doing? And it's I can't, I

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can't do it. So yeah,
and he gets really really mad greatly and

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tends more angry with every thing gold
work, you know, and you're going,

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Wow, that's him. It's nail. It's rad. Yeah, that

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one sucked, you know, I
don't do it, but no, neither

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debays, so hey, that's it. Welcome to bad John malcovitches. Yes,

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podcast link is in the description of
this show. So, I know this

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is your show, but I have
a quite so your musical background. I

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mean, I know you you were
a band, You've done all kinds of

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stuff. I love music, and
I I'm like one of these people like,

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hey, I wish I had the
discipline to learn guitar. I played

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a little piano, but like I
wish I had the discipline to sit down,

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like and find that what what what
were your musical How did that well?

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For me? It just was a
good way to meet chicks, you

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know, And I like drums.
I just played the drums. That's drums,

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that saying like Phil Collins, there
you go. Good enough for him,

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good enough for me. How old
were you when you were in your

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first band? Oh? Boy?
Uh? I don't know, seventh grade

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probably you know what, it was
a fantastic perel Okay, you and I

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had a great convention experience together down
in Pensacola, Florida, not really at

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the convention, necessarily at the bar
talking telling Evan cocktails, eating burgers and

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what was it? You were telling
me his story about the van and you

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had a gig in Pensacola and the
van. I stole every stitch of clothing

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I had. Can you retell the
story for it? And I had,

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well, I had all this rock
star clothing. I had a shirt that

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was so bad assid looked like it
was made of aluminum foil. That's how

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badass that shirt was. Aluminum foil. Think of it. Okay, it

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was the seventies, Leave me alone, but uh but yeah, and we

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went out the next you know,
we just were tired, went to bed

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when I gotta get my stuff out
of there, and I opened up and

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everything is gone. I mean,
you know, I mean I didn't have

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underwear. I didn't have anything that
took your underwear. Yeah, the whole

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the suitcase and the hanging. I
was the only idiot who didn't bring it

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in. And uh, you know, I had my little toothbrush and I

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went in and and it was just
awful, and I ended up going and

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we were planning at a place called
the Stone Pony, and we hadn't even

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opened there yet, and so I
said, well, I gotta go to

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the mall. I gotta go to
the mall. And I bought a couple

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of shirts and they were exact duplicates
of the shirts that the guys who worked

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there had. So now I show
up and I and I and I go,

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oh shit, you know, somebody's
gonna be asking me for to bust

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their table now. And so I
did. No, I'm in the band,

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made a couple of extra bucks.
Make some tips. You make some

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tips, yeah, tip money,
don't lose your shirt. I just think

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it would have been great if you
were out there in the band that night,

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looked out like the table and like
that guy's got my shirt on.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, that
would have been less fun act man.

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But yeah, so you know rock
and roll. Yeah, I know.

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I think I think that's the funny
thing people say, Like what people have

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asked me, like if if I
didn't do this, what would I what

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would I dream job be? And
a lot of people because I played baseball

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in college, or they think a
rock star. Man, I mean I

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think everybody deep down it's like I'm
the guy who's like, I Man,

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I can rip it up in the
shower. I just yeah, that's right.

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It sounds so good. Yeah,
but I wouldn't. I don't know

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if I like Yeah, and you
can keep doing it. Apparently, according

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to Keith Richard, I saw a
thing the other day Willie Nelson had quoted

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he said, uh, he said, we need to take care of this

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00:26:08.319 --> 00:26:11.400
global warming, because what kind of
world do do these young kids think they're

407
00:26:11.400 --> 00:26:15.759
gonna leave? Keith Richards And I
yeah, that's yeah. I mean they

408
00:26:15.880 --> 00:26:19.279
just gonna they just go forever.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know.

409
00:26:19.440 --> 00:26:23.359
And uh, my son is a
huge he's a guitarist and he's yeah,

410
00:26:23.519 --> 00:26:27.720
yeah, he loves but he loves
the uh the history of stuff like

411
00:26:27.799 --> 00:26:33.279
that. He's read the Keith Richards
biography like twice now, no kidding,

412
00:26:33.400 --> 00:26:34.960
Yeah, and he and he reads
all the biographies. He just you know,

413
00:26:36.039 --> 00:26:40.160
he's just it just finds it so
interesting. He's a huge Zeppelin fan.

414
00:26:40.319 --> 00:26:44.640
And Jimmy Page and his you know, their whole history and yeah,

415
00:26:44.759 --> 00:26:49.200
and uh and it's funny because I've
always loved the music, and now through

416
00:26:49.319 --> 00:26:53.799
my twenty three year old son,
I'm learning more about the bands I grew

417
00:26:53.920 --> 00:26:57.440
up with and I like that.
Then yeah, then and he's the one

418
00:26:57.519 --> 00:27:02.200
teaching me guitar, he wrote,
Yeah, but no, it's it's um,

419
00:27:02.920 --> 00:27:06.279
it's been a it's been crazy.
I think I don't know this.

420
00:27:06.599 --> 00:27:10.880
Um, this career is just not
when I ever ever expected. You know,

421
00:27:10.960 --> 00:27:14.720
it's like it's Paulson and I always
laughed at like it's the one that

422
00:27:14.839 --> 00:27:18.440
you you know, you got in
trouble in school trying to Oh yeah,

423
00:27:18.599 --> 00:27:22.640
I was either trying got in trouble
in school or just being a you know,

424
00:27:22.759 --> 00:27:26.519
a bonehead trying to get girls to
notice me. Yea. And and

425
00:27:26.319 --> 00:27:29.279
you know, I was like the
funny guy. And like he said,

426
00:27:29.319 --> 00:27:33.039
Kat, he's like my brother.
I don't want to be your brother.

427
00:27:33.480 --> 00:27:37.519
Yeah. Well, girls, ever
been in a barn? What I remember

428
00:27:37.559 --> 00:27:41.480
being not a good pickup line?
Money? Yeah, yeah, it's name.

429
00:27:41.839 --> 00:27:45.519
I remember getting slammed up against the
speaking of high school, um against

430
00:27:45.559 --> 00:27:48.759
the wall by this this Jim teacher, Jim Mand was his name, and

431
00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:52.640
he said, comings let me tell
you something, You're a n asshole and

432
00:27:52.839 --> 00:27:56.880
you know what else, You're not
gonna do anything you do all this ship.

433
00:27:56.000 --> 00:27:59.839
I was in speech and I was
in that newspaper every week. It

434
00:27:59.920 --> 00:28:03.279
was really kind of cool and um, and I was in the band and

435
00:28:03.359 --> 00:28:06.319
I was in speech, and so
I was kind of hanging in there and

436
00:28:06.640 --> 00:28:07.599
uh and he goes, what do
you what are you gonna do? And

437
00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:10.519
what are you gonna do? Play
drums? What are you gonna do?

438
00:28:10.799 --> 00:28:12.400
Do silly voices your whole life?
Uh? Huh yeah, let me know

439
00:28:12.480 --> 00:28:17.119
how that works out. You're gonna
be over there at the sheet and tube,

440
00:28:17.200 --> 00:28:19.599
the steel mill. You're gonna retire
when you're sixty five. Then you're

441
00:28:19.599 --> 00:28:25.240
gonna go sit in your rocket chair, drink lousy beer and lose money on

442
00:28:25.400 --> 00:28:27.480
the Cleveland Browns. Okay, you
got that. That's what you're gonna do.

443
00:28:29.079 --> 00:28:32.519
And I went, wow, am
I gonna sizzle? This guy's go

444
00:28:32.720 --> 00:28:36.519
dads? What you know? So
I got? I got so if you're

445
00:28:36.559 --> 00:28:41.079
listening out there, yeah, I'm
gonna come right up next to him.

446
00:28:41.240 --> 00:28:48.200
Mister fish home rooms and told me, uh, I got detention for talking

447
00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:52.119
doing goofy shit, And uh,
I sat down. I had not got

448
00:28:52.240 --> 00:28:56.000
detention, And I was like because
I usually got away with it, to

449
00:28:56.079 --> 00:28:57.440
be honest with you, and I
sat down, I started doing homework.

450
00:28:57.480 --> 00:29:02.200
He's put that away. I said, I can't do homework, and he

451
00:29:02.279 --> 00:29:03.640
goes, no, I want you
to sit there quietly and think where these

452
00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:07.039
stupid voices are going to get you
someday. Oh okay, And I was

453
00:29:07.079 --> 00:29:10.640
like okay. And of course at
the time, I was like, well,

454
00:29:11.359 --> 00:29:14.480
I guess nowhere. I guess because
I didn't. This is not something

455
00:29:14.559 --> 00:29:18.839
I thought I would do. Um. But when you look back at your

456
00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:22.599
life, you go, this is
what I was meant to do. Yeah,

457
00:29:22.759 --> 00:29:26.039
you know, it's just I've grown
up in New England. It was

458
00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:29.200
like, this isn't a job,
right. I mean people in California,

459
00:29:29.240 --> 00:29:32.880
Hollywood, they don't even eat McDonald's. Yeah, you know, I was

460
00:29:32.920 --> 00:29:37.079
the kid who going, you know, like being New England watching a Monday

461
00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:41.480
night football game and it's like it's
sunny there. What part of universe is

462
00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:45.279
that he wasn't a bright kid?
Yeah? Yeah, maybe I should.

463
00:29:45.319 --> 00:29:48.759
Maybe mister Fish was right, maybe
it was no. But the thing is,

464
00:29:48.839 --> 00:29:52.240
it's like and then you finally find
your place and you find the things

465
00:29:52.279 --> 00:29:57.440
that you're doing, and uh,
it's it's it's really cool. Yeah,

466
00:29:57.480 --> 00:30:00.039
and you know, I got the
last laugh because I went back to my

467
00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:04.039
high school years a long long time
ago, and I gave X amount of

468
00:30:04.400 --> 00:30:11.960
bucks to perpetually ongoing scholarship year to
year to year to year to year.

469
00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:15.559
And it's in my dad's name.
And I just and I said, please

470
00:30:15.640 --> 00:30:18.880
tell me jim Mon still is here, and they go, no, that

471
00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:22.079
doesn't ring any bells. I go, okay, well, if he comes

472
00:30:22.680 --> 00:30:26.680
walking over to that plaque right there
and show him my dad's name and have

473
00:30:26.839 --> 00:30:30.519
him wild, guess who who put
it there? You know, I have

474
00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:34.200
no idea. I know, you
know. Revenge is good though, yeah,

475
00:30:34.200 --> 00:30:40.880
and he probably doesn't even remember.
He's probably right. We need a

476
00:30:40.960 --> 00:30:45.559
what yeah yeah, yeah, you
know what pooh is right anyway? Yeah?

477
00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:52.039
So yeah, So what's next for
you besides another con Um? Have

478
00:30:52.160 --> 00:31:00.680
you written anything? No? Yeah, just curious now I have not why

479
00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:06.160
enough. I haven't written anything,
but somebody who wrote something. But that's

480
00:31:06.240 --> 00:31:10.440
for that's something that we're not gonna
We can't but we can't tell anything.

481
00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:14.240
Could be something in the future,
I could think, but um, yeah,

482
00:31:14.319 --> 00:31:17.720
no, uh, stay tuned,
stay tuned. It's you know,

483
00:31:17.799 --> 00:31:21.200
it's it's that one thing I was
talking to somebody today and I think it's

484
00:31:21.200 --> 00:31:25.960
a good way to talk about it
is I think as artists, and I

485
00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:27.519
use that word lightly, I'm not
one of these people. I'm an artist,

486
00:31:27.680 --> 00:31:33.319
but a no. As an artist, I think you never really content.

487
00:31:33.799 --> 00:31:36.359
But I'm but I'm happy. You
know, I'm very happy with the

488
00:31:36.920 --> 00:31:38.240
things that I've been able to do, the people I've been able to meet,

489
00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:41.160
the things like things like this,
I mean, getting to travel to

490
00:31:41.559 --> 00:31:45.359
sit with you and all this stuff. But it's okay if you don't feel

491
00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:49.000
content, because I can't imagine a
painter does a beautiful painting goes, well

492
00:31:49.039 --> 00:31:52.000
that's the last one. I got
it. I got it all out.

493
00:31:52.079 --> 00:31:56.240
Yeah, you know, you always
want the next thing, and uh somebody

494
00:31:56.319 --> 00:31:57.680
said, how do you how do
you deal with that? Like there's always

495
00:31:57.680 --> 00:32:00.240
the next thing? And I'm like, well, that's the excitement of it.

496
00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:02.440
Yeah, I said, you know
what, why would you look at

497
00:32:02.480 --> 00:32:05.079
like, oh, I got to
find the next thing? Is it's a

498
00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:07.720
problem. It's like what will would
the next thing be? Because you know,

499
00:32:08.039 --> 00:32:12.839
and I think, and it's also
I also goes the whole positivity thing.

500
00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:16.240
I just and yeah, I have
some really cool stuff on the horizon.

501
00:32:16.480 --> 00:32:20.400
Uh, and we'll see if if
it comes to fruition, we'll see

502
00:32:20.400 --> 00:32:22.720
if anybody who likes it, and
if they don't, go to the next

503
00:32:22.759 --> 00:32:24.759
thing, and you just you just
keep going, you know that. That's

504
00:32:24.839 --> 00:32:30.160
the great thing about this business,
especially you know, especially in the voice

505
00:32:30.200 --> 00:32:31.839
side, is we can we can
do this till we drop. You know.

506
00:32:31.920 --> 00:32:35.599
We were talking the other day about
like, yeah, you can.

507
00:32:35.839 --> 00:32:37.839
Why I retire? Why why would
you? Yeah? You know, I

508
00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:42.279
mean I'm not we're not digging ditches, We're not you know, drilling.

509
00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:45.039
Yeah, you know, yeah,
still ringing, I'll answer, yeah.

510
00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:49.000
And you can do it a lot
from your house these days, you know,

511
00:32:49.079 --> 00:32:52.839
and yeah, exactly, Yeah,
and you know, and there's and

512
00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:54.559
there's yeah, and you know,
there's new new, you know. I

513
00:32:55.400 --> 00:32:59.720
remember when I got into voiceover,
I was doing non camera stuff and then

514
00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:01.559
somebody said, hey, you should
talk to a voiceover agent because you're always

515
00:33:01.599 --> 00:33:06.640
goofing around. Yeah, and I'm
like, okay, And then breaking into

516
00:33:06.680 --> 00:33:08.519
animation at the time was really difficult. So they said, hey, they're

517
00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:13.000
doing video games now, it's usually
just you know, grenade and get down

518
00:33:13.119 --> 00:33:15.440
and oh yeah, and I was
like, yeah, I have kids,

519
00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:17.640
I'll do that, sure, you
know. It's well they were like,

520
00:33:17.720 --> 00:33:20.839
it's just yelling. I'm like,
well I'm gonna yell at my kids.

521
00:33:21.160 --> 00:33:23.720
Yeah, yeah, I might as
well. Yeah, let's say what I

522
00:33:23.720 --> 00:33:25.920
remember I gonna do. It's like, well, it's only minimum, I

523
00:33:27.000 --> 00:33:29.240
think. It was like, it's
only like seven hundred dollars. I'm like,

524
00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:32.839
I'll yell for seven hundred dollars.
I don't care anyway, and it

525
00:33:34.319 --> 00:33:37.880
and and then that evolved, so
who knows what the next thing will be,

526
00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:39.759
and you know, just look forward
to it. And you know,

527
00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:44.079
now it's just like hopefully I like
looking at like who else is doing this?

528
00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:46.359
Probably like if somebody you know,
your audition for something or you get

529
00:33:46.519 --> 00:33:50.319
your landed jobs, like who else
is in it? Who's too? Do

530
00:33:50.359 --> 00:33:52.839
we got? You know? And
it's like, uh, you know,

531
00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:55.079
because it's because we're still you know, there's still time, you know,

532
00:33:55.160 --> 00:34:00.440
we get one. We may see
each other just on zoom, but yeah,

533
00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:02.680
we haven't done a show together.
Yeah, but that happens to a

534
00:34:02.720 --> 00:34:05.960
lot of people. Well, now
you have, well, now we have.

535
00:34:06.079 --> 00:34:09.360
Now we have that's right, we
have now we have I mean talking

536
00:34:09.360 --> 00:34:12.760
about it you know, it's interesting
here you bringing up you know, like

537
00:34:13.400 --> 00:34:15.000
the introduction to video games, and
you know, it didn't really know what

538
00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:17.280
that was about because of me and
Jim had been talking a little bit about

539
00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:20.119
you know, like he was saying, you know, like, oh,

540
00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:22.320
he's done a lot of video game
voices. You know, I've done kind

541
00:34:22.360 --> 00:34:24.079
of more cartoons. It's almost like
we're two different worlds, like but at

542
00:34:24.119 --> 00:34:28.360
the same convention. You know.
Yeah, well, I mean, you

543
00:34:28.400 --> 00:34:32.159
know the thing is is that was
just you know, people say, how

544
00:34:32.199 --> 00:34:35.360
did you know it was going to
be so good? I didn't. That

545
00:34:35.480 --> 00:34:37.920
was the opportunity, that was the
foot in the door. Yea. And

546
00:34:37.039 --> 00:34:42.639
what happened is the games. Then
people said, okay, then now you

547
00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:45.280
transition to animation, and then you
know, I auditioned for Nickelodeon show and

548
00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:47.480
you finally get one, and then
you do this, this and this,

549
00:34:47.519 --> 00:34:52.800
and all of a sudden, now
you're doing animation. Um, you know,

550
00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:55.440
and and and now I know,
people going back and now you get

551
00:34:55.480 --> 00:35:00.440
people move you know, people Gary
Oldman did a call of duty. I

552
00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:02.119
mean people are doing that kind of
stuff. Yeah, I mean yeah,

553
00:35:02.199 --> 00:35:08.360
yeah, I mean they're doing yeah
Reeves, I mean, big names,

554
00:35:08.599 --> 00:35:13.119
so they go back and do that. So um, you know, it's

555
00:35:13.119 --> 00:35:16.800
just like you said, you know, it's I think it's funny when people

556
00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:20.079
said, well, I just want
to be a voice actor. Well that's

557
00:35:20.119 --> 00:35:23.079
great if that's just what you want
to do, but understand that you should

558
00:35:23.320 --> 00:35:27.360
be an actor. Yeah, you
know that. We meet so many people

559
00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:30.199
who say I can do all these
voices, you know what I mean.

560
00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:34.760
It's it's like, I mean,
I guarantee there's people out there. There's

561
00:35:34.840 --> 00:35:39.760
somebody out there that can sound like
Nathan Drake or sound like when should sound

562
00:35:39.800 --> 00:35:45.760
like Winnie the Poem, but they
can't do the performance, certainly can't sing.

563
00:35:45.119 --> 00:35:49.320
Yeah, I mean people don't realize
that, I mean, what that

564
00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:53.480
takes. And it's like, no, that's the guy you know who who

565
00:35:53.880 --> 00:35:59.119
is that character? Yeah? Yeah, you know that's the one thing that

566
00:35:59.239 --> 00:36:04.079
you've really screwed anybody in the future
because it can't it's it's not gonna be

567
00:36:04.119 --> 00:36:07.880
able to be done. It's good, I hope, I mean it's really

568
00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:13.599
Yeah, well no, it's it
won't. It's just it's a it's it's

569
00:36:13.639 --> 00:36:15.320
a legacy. Yeah. How does
it feel, Jim, when people like

570
00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:17.239
I know, I see a lot
of people at the conventions, they come

571
00:36:17.320 --> 00:36:21.559
up and they do one of your
character voices, like what's the internal monologue

572
00:36:21.599 --> 00:36:22.920
when when somebody comes up, I
can, I can? I can answer

573
00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:30.119
that question? Yes, yes,
this Oh yeah, that's sweet. God

574
00:36:30.239 --> 00:36:32.079
love you. Yeah, yeah,
that's really great. Hey do you come?

575
00:36:32.440 --> 00:36:37.400
I can do any to Pooh,
hi weny to Pooh, and I

576
00:36:37.480 --> 00:36:40.880
go, you're giving me chills.
That's that's It's as if I was in

577
00:36:42.000 --> 00:36:46.159
the room. Yeah, it's it's
you have you know, you know,

578
00:36:46.280 --> 00:36:52.079
and and it here's the thing.
Some of them will do characters in mind

579
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:54.960
and you're like, and you're like, that's so sweet. They're a big

580
00:36:55.079 --> 00:36:58.280
fan, they do it, sure, sure. And then it's the people

581
00:36:58.920 --> 00:37:04.440
who really really yeah, we got
it, and they get a little there

582
00:37:04.480 --> 00:37:08.639
are It's it's rare, but there's
some people who get a little it kind

583
00:37:08.679 --> 00:37:12.840
of yeah. They're like, so
I'm like, how would I get the

584
00:37:12.920 --> 00:37:15.440
agent? I'm like, oh,
you're serious, yeah, and you know,

585
00:37:15.559 --> 00:37:20.280
in order to take my job?
Well let me see. Yeah.

586
00:37:20.320 --> 00:37:22.480
It's like, okay, well,
good luck. The thing the thing with

587
00:37:22.599 --> 00:37:29.400
the like with with voices like that, it seems to me that that job

588
00:37:29.679 --> 00:37:35.199
a Pooh or a Tigger or Scooby
or you know, well, no,

589
00:37:35.320 --> 00:37:38.159
I mean mine, it's it's a
different thing. But because those are iconic

590
00:37:38.400 --> 00:37:43.079
characters, and I felt I always
felt like as we were talking about the

591
00:37:43.159 --> 00:37:47.199
Mickey One, I told I told
my agents, I said, you talk

592
00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:51.760
to you tell Wayne, oh wine, God blood rest his soul. I

593
00:37:51.800 --> 00:37:54.679
said, you tell Wayne. I
will not do anything until he wants to

594
00:37:54.840 --> 00:38:00.199
mentor me or pass it on to
me. When he's like I'm done or

595
00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:02.159
I you know what, I'm not
doing the ice show. I'm taking this

596
00:38:02.320 --> 00:38:09.239
thing. If you but be stow
that on onto say if you know it's

597
00:38:09.280 --> 00:38:13.840
like that, you don't, I'm
not gonna sit here and go give me

598
00:38:13.880 --> 00:38:16.079
a little pop. Let me try
to Jim, what do you think about

599
00:38:16.119 --> 00:38:20.760
my pool? It's like, you
know, if he came to me one

600
00:38:20.840 --> 00:38:23.519
day and goes, hey, you
know what I'm gonna I'm gonna cut back

601
00:38:23.559 --> 00:38:30.320
on you know, let me hear
let me. It's like you that's his

602
00:38:30.519 --> 00:38:35.039
job is something that he would have
to bestow or the powers would be just

603
00:38:35.320 --> 00:38:37.199
take it away, and that's that's
horrible. So I think, you know,

604
00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:42.559
but Dan Castelanetta, if he wanted
to step away from Homer, you

605
00:38:42.679 --> 00:38:45.039
know that should be Dan's choice.
Yeah. Then then like, hey,

606
00:38:45.079 --> 00:38:47.360
you know what, I know someone
who doesn't, and I'm gonna work with

607
00:38:47.480 --> 00:38:52.159
him as I slow down. Yeah, these are characters that have to Frank

608
00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:55.159
Welker would have to come and find
someone say, I'm gonna I'm gonna work

609
00:38:55.199 --> 00:38:59.559
with him on to do Scooby.
I'll keep doing Fred but I'm tired.

610
00:38:59.599 --> 00:39:02.440
It's it's a lot of work that
should be bestowed upon someone next. You

611
00:39:02.480 --> 00:39:06.719
don't just you can't. It's not
a job that should be should be allowed

612
00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:09.199
to be taken, you know.
And some and he's done it for how

613
00:39:09.280 --> 00:39:15.159
long have you done it? Poo
well eight mid eighties, eighty five and

614
00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:17.480
ticker on and off. So and
I have a story about that the Tiger,

615
00:39:19.920 --> 00:39:22.880
Yeah, a long time. I
mean it's like, that's that should

616
00:39:22.920 --> 00:39:27.920
be Yeah, we have very very
rarely do you feel like true ownership of

617
00:39:28.000 --> 00:39:32.199
a character. But if you can, wells Welker and that Scooby and Freddie

618
00:39:32.400 --> 00:39:38.039
He's yeah, and that's it.
That should be his choice. And it's

619
00:39:38.079 --> 00:39:44.119
like and and all these great characters, these these the iconic ones that that

620
00:39:44.639 --> 00:39:47.280
Yeah, I just think it's well, it's ridiculous. Yeah. Well on

621
00:39:47.400 --> 00:39:50.960
that topic of like kind of like
you know, ownership of your voice.

622
00:39:51.000 --> 00:39:52.760
You know, like a big part
of this strike is you kind of over

623
00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:57.199
AI, you know, and the
ability to mimic you know, especially when

624
00:39:57.239 --> 00:40:00.360
you have so many, so much
voices recorded you that goes into the database

625
00:40:00.440 --> 00:40:05.119
and that gives it even you know, more knowledge on how to replicate your

626
00:40:05.159 --> 00:40:07.719
voice. I mean I've heard ones, you know, Obama or Joe Rogan,

627
00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:12.360
you know, people who have thousands
and thousands of audio recording is online

628
00:40:12.840 --> 00:40:15.519
and it's just kind of like whoa. And you know, my understanding is

629
00:40:15.559 --> 00:40:19.679
that part of this strike is there
was a clause in there where they're trying

630
00:40:19.679 --> 00:40:22.519
to buy likeness for like a day
rate, and like we have your AI

631
00:40:22.639 --> 00:40:27.519
likeness for like yeah, yeah,
but I think that's a big that's just

632
00:40:27.679 --> 00:40:31.199
you think it's people worked up.
It's the worked up, ridiculous thing that

633
00:40:31.480 --> 00:40:35.000
they know they're never gonna go and
it's the one thing that they can say,

634
00:40:35.039 --> 00:40:37.639
Okay, well we'll take this off
the table. Okay, but you

635
00:40:37.719 --> 00:40:38.480
have to It's like no, no, yeah, that shouldn't be on the

636
00:40:38.519 --> 00:40:40.599
table. It's ridiculous. We're going
to get to the truth. You go

637
00:40:40.719 --> 00:40:45.239
in and watch them by exactly the
a I think the Lai thing is.

638
00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:47.960
And I don't understand it all that
well, but you know what, the

639
00:40:49.159 --> 00:40:52.760
biggest best defense against any Ai stealing
his voice or my voice is a really

640
00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:55.800
good lawyer. Yeah. Yeah,
and the threat of a threat of a

641
00:40:55.880 --> 00:41:01.840
lawsuit. I mean, if if
if a studio is stupid enough to go

642
00:41:02.039 --> 00:41:05.800
and say, Okay, we're gonna
we're gonna take a bunch of Gym's old

643
00:41:05.840 --> 00:41:08.480
lines and it's him, because you
can hear and I had that. And

644
00:41:08.679 --> 00:41:13.679
there's also you know they've done this
in court. I mean they can go

645
00:41:14.119 --> 00:41:16.280
listen to the voice Brinton put it
and go, yeah, that's him.

646
00:41:16.800 --> 00:41:21.559
Yeah they No, that's not an
impression. That's him. Yeah, there's

647
00:41:21.599 --> 00:41:27.239
certain tremor trouble whatever they that's him. It's like, okay, well just

648
00:41:27.559 --> 00:41:31.239
you congratulations. Now you're gonna pay
way more than you would have had you

649
00:41:31.360 --> 00:41:36.519
just called called sure. Yeah,
and yeah, I had I had something

650
00:41:36.840 --> 00:41:40.920
years ago. Um it was a
talking Winnie the Pooh toy and uh it

651
00:41:42.079 --> 00:41:49.719
was called my Interactive Pooh see no
comment and uh that the lady that the

652
00:41:49.880 --> 00:41:52.880
girl that was there, I forget
who it was from one of one of

653
00:41:52.960 --> 00:41:54.599
the big toy things. She said, okay, now where we did all

654
00:41:54.639 --> 00:41:58.800
this? I mean, and it
took months and months. I said every

655
00:41:58.880 --> 00:42:04.280
single name in the unit verse because
it was hello, Shaboozy, you know,

656
00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:07.599
and then and all of those names. It was happy Birthday. And

657
00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:09.599
then we started on phone ms and
I said, well, what's a phone

658
00:42:09.679 --> 00:42:17.960
m? And it's like pH uh
fu, and they would trying to put

659
00:42:19.000 --> 00:42:22.079
it together. Yeah, And I
go, now why and he would you

660
00:42:22.199 --> 00:42:24.599
want me to do that? She
goes, oh, well no, well

661
00:42:24.760 --> 00:42:30.079
this way, see if we have
you doing it all these different phone ms

662
00:42:30.119 --> 00:42:32.079
like the tch sound, the st
sound, you know, that way,

663
00:42:32.159 --> 00:42:35.400
we could just put it together and
we don't have to pull you back in

664
00:42:35.480 --> 00:42:37.440
and pay you. And then you
know what she said it me, No,

665
00:42:37.599 --> 00:42:40.880
she said it. Wow, she
said it, And Rick Dempsey went,

666
00:42:43.199 --> 00:42:45.199
you know and I said, um, I'm not going to do that.

667
00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:51.239
What's the word I'm looking for.
It's a two letter word rhymes with

668
00:42:51.960 --> 00:42:57.039
no way pose a and so yeah, so I forgot to do that.

669
00:42:57.440 --> 00:43:01.679
You don't even know what you're gonna
say it? Yeah, yeah you should

670
00:43:02.199 --> 00:43:07.440
huh yeah, Um, that's not
gonna that's the best I can do.

671
00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:15.119
Yeah, yeah, there's one.
Yeah. Yeah, here's your interactive pooh.

672
00:43:15.440 --> 00:43:21.559
Yeah yeah, it's a precursor.
That's yeah. I mean there's like

673
00:43:22.159 --> 00:43:25.000
the STU. I mean just like
yeah, absolutely said it to be so

674
00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:31.480
raisingly unbelievable, abashedly rude in disrespect. Yeah. I couldn't believe it,

675
00:43:31.800 --> 00:43:37.519
you know, it was I was
flabbergasted. I can't and you're just telling

676
00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:42.159
me that. Wow. M nah
Yeah, it's not gonna I'm busy now

677
00:43:43.039 --> 00:43:46.280
wow wow. Yeah. So and
x nay on that. Yeah, and

678
00:43:46.360 --> 00:43:49.840
Disney they were kind about it.
They go, yeah, that's right.

679
00:43:50.079 --> 00:43:53.360
Sorry, we didn't know about that
was gonna We're gonna take her back.

680
00:43:53.679 --> 00:43:57.840
Yeah yeah, yeah, it's gonna
be fine, thank you. Yeah.

681
00:43:58.079 --> 00:44:00.079
See a hand hanging out of the
dumpster when you're on your car. Yeah

682
00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:05.519
yeah, really did it? Oh
wow, Yeah, sorry about that,

683
00:44:05.639 --> 00:44:08.880
Jim. Wow. Yeah, really
sounds good. That's all really good.

684
00:44:08.960 --> 00:44:14.400
We took care of that bitch.
Yeah, that's right. That wasn't me,

685
00:44:14.800 --> 00:44:19.840
that was Ai talking. Yes,
I've heard of him. Yes,

686
00:44:20.760 --> 00:44:25.559
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692
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the description of this podcast. So
are you got any more conventions? Land

693
00:44:52.599 --> 00:44:58.360
Him might be seeing you again?
Probably probably, probably, I hope,

694
00:44:58.400 --> 00:45:01.000
so yeah, No, I mean, uh, where are we now?

695
00:45:01.079 --> 00:45:06.239
We're in Montreal, Montreal, right, We're in Montreal. I believe I

696
00:45:06.360 --> 00:45:10.599
have Uh, I get to go
Tulsa, Oklahoma, which I'm actually a

697
00:45:10.760 --> 00:45:19.199
family down in South uh Territory,
So Oda and Tulsa, but I know

698
00:45:19.559 --> 00:45:24.559
I think Edmonton. When are you
going to Oklahoma? Oklahoma? August?

699
00:45:25.360 --> 00:45:30.480
Are your sports fan because we should. I'm trying to tout your stuff.

700
00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:36.239
Oh yeah, yeah, tout tout
Uh yeah yeah, doing that stuff.

701
00:45:36.880 --> 00:45:42.599
Uh Tulsa. Um, I got
a signing in Seattle at some point,

702
00:45:42.840 --> 00:45:46.079
I remember things. Uh, we'll
be ending up. I think I end

703
00:45:46.199 --> 00:45:50.760
up my year in my home state
in Rhode Island at Providence at the beginning

704
00:45:50.760 --> 00:45:53.320
of November. So oh nice,
that's gonna be really cool. Um yeah,

705
00:45:53.360 --> 00:45:58.239
but you know, check what is
the Celebrity Talent Booking CDB site.

706
00:45:58.360 --> 00:46:04.079
We're on there and CTB. CTB
sounds like I don't know, condition,

707
00:46:04.199 --> 00:46:08.079
sounds like a diagnosis. Yeah,
it's yes, I'm sorry you have CTBT.

708
00:46:09.320 --> 00:46:17.760
What what is that? It's chronic
tuberculosis tuberculosis, tubercus tuberculosis. You

709
00:46:17.840 --> 00:46:22.280
can't be the good isis there?
You go? But yeah, no,

710
00:46:22.519 --> 00:46:25.760
um, just you know doing that
stuff. Obviously we got the SAG strike.

711
00:46:27.119 --> 00:46:30.599
It's not affecting interactive or some of
our TV animation stuff like that.

712
00:46:30.840 --> 00:46:36.360
But um, you know, writer
strike is on as well. So it's

713
00:46:36.400 --> 00:46:39.679
a it's an interesting time. So
most of my my you know, in

714
00:46:39.800 --> 00:46:45.960
between conventions and any kind of you
know, gaming gaming gigs I have.

715
00:46:46.599 --> 00:46:50.880
I think it's gonna be just hit
those the punch lists at the house.

716
00:46:51.000 --> 00:46:53.800
You know, I gotta you know, paint that door that the dog scratched.

717
00:46:53.920 --> 00:46:59.039
You know, I got man got
those honeydoo lists that hooft I heard

718
00:46:59.039 --> 00:47:01.199
of those, and then you know
the ones that my wife is just like

719
00:47:01.360 --> 00:47:05.119
you said, you get to that
about six months ago. I'm calling someone.

720
00:47:05.280 --> 00:47:07.239
Yeah, okay, I'll be here. When he gets here. Yeah,

721
00:47:07.400 --> 00:47:12.159
I'll tell him the right wall to
paint exactly or something. Yeah,

722
00:47:12.199 --> 00:47:15.119
I'm good at that too. So
um No, it's just you know,

723
00:47:15.159 --> 00:47:19.320
I'm just gonna write it out.
Just kind of ran out there. It's

724
00:47:19.360 --> 00:47:22.320
been a it's been a good year
so far. I'm curious to see what's

725
00:47:22.360 --> 00:47:27.239
going to happen with all this.
Yeah, the sag after on the w

726
00:47:27.440 --> 00:47:30.480
GA strike, we shall see.
I hope we can figure this out and

727
00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:34.880
we'll get back to work and have
more fun. Ladies and gentlemen, the

728
00:47:35.039 --> 00:47:40.960
great Noland North thanks for inviting us
out to play. Stay tuned in with

729
00:47:42.119 --> 00:47:45.280
Jim Cummings sometimes he's on the show. Yeah, well, thank you so

730
00:47:45.400 --> 00:47:46.920
much for joining us. Absolutely.
Yeah, it was a great conversation.

731
00:47:47.320 --> 00:47:50.400
You know, we had this plan
for the last day or so. I'm

732
00:47:50.639 --> 00:47:52.639
like really happy that you just decided
to take this on. I mean yeah,

733
00:47:52.880 --> 00:47:55.320
yeah, for those of you out
there, you know, we literally

734
00:47:55.400 --> 00:47:59.280
planned this yesterday. It was like
we met up with Nolan and all of

735
00:47:59.320 --> 00:48:01.079
a sudden you told me I heard
about the podcast, and I was like,

736
00:48:01.800 --> 00:48:05.840
oh, so you're in podcasts.
Yeah, I was kind of angling.

737
00:48:06.079 --> 00:48:09.280
Yeah, we love to cast a
good pod. Yeah, no,

738
00:48:09.360 --> 00:48:12.559
it's been a lot of fun and
talking to you over the last couple of

739
00:48:12.639 --> 00:48:15.639
days has been real. Treating its
pleasure, Yeah, no, it's it's

740
00:48:15.679 --> 00:48:19.320
great. Yeah, and thanks for
having me seriously and uh, when I

741
00:48:19.519 --> 00:48:22.239
you know, well, let's do
it again when we had absolutely when we

742
00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:27.039
just want to keep shooting the ship, Yeah, I love it.

