WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.480 --> 00:00:05.519 This is High on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports 2 00:00:05.559 --> 00:00:11.439 fourteen fifty Subscribe now to the podcast on the iHeart Radio Whip just Surge on 3 00:00:11.519 --> 00:00:15.000 the Ball. Hey, welcome back to II on the Back here on Fox 4 00:00:15.000 --> 00:00:17.960 Sports fourteen fifty I'm Steve, you're Jay. You hope you have some break 5 00:00:18.039 --> 00:00:24.199 news. It caught me off Carse. This is High on the Ball breaking 6 00:00:24.320 --> 00:00:29.399 news on Fox Sports fourteen fifty eight. So I guess, I guess this 7 00:00:29.559 --> 00:00:34.960 has been kind of hinted around for a few weeks. I hadn't heard any 8 00:00:34.960 --> 00:00:37.719 of this. I'm gonna have to hit you. I'm gonna have to I 9 00:00:37.719 --> 00:00:42.039 don't remember talking about when it first came out about two months ago, and 10 00:00:42.039 --> 00:00:45.960 then again I brought it up with you two weeks ago or something. Well, 11 00:00:46.000 --> 00:00:50.200 it had and we're talking about Terry Francona is apparently going to retire. 12 00:00:50.520 --> 00:00:53.200 It still hasn't been announced, but he did go on a rate on a 13 00:00:53.359 --> 00:00:57.640 on a podcast I think it was this morning actually, and he kind of 14 00:00:57.679 --> 00:01:00.520 talked and it was it became more it became more definite. Here here's what 15 00:01:00.560 --> 00:01:04.239 he had to say on it was a podcast. One of you guys from 16 00:01:04.239 --> 00:01:07.359 the athletic But here's what he had to say, and that's the good part. 17 00:01:07.480 --> 00:01:11.920 It really hasn't been that hard. I think I'm looking forward to right 18 00:01:11.959 --> 00:01:15.760 when the season's over, I'm gonna get another set of surgeries. I do 19 00:01:15.840 --> 00:01:19.799 that every year, and it'll take me a while to kind of get healthy. 20 00:01:19.840 --> 00:01:27.120 But I'm really looking forward to to seeing like what's next and what do 21 00:01:27.200 --> 00:01:30.640 I miss? You know, how much do you miss it? Do you 22 00:01:30.719 --> 00:01:34.840 miss it? You know? I thought when I got done playing, I 23 00:01:34.879 --> 00:01:41.079 would be a typical because that's all I've ever done. And I put my 24 00:01:41.400 --> 00:01:46.120 equipment bag away and never looked at it again. And you know, I 25 00:01:46.400 --> 00:01:51.000 gave everything I had. It was time and I moved on. I'm kind 26 00:01:51.000 --> 00:01:55.120 of looking forward to this now just to see how I do feel, and 27 00:01:55.159 --> 00:01:59.640 I'm not worried about like, you know, there's no timetable for the first 28 00:01:59.680 --> 00:02:02.480 time my life, and I can take a deep breath and and like I 29 00:02:02.519 --> 00:02:07.159 said, get healthy and then we'll see what happens. Really, how old 30 00:02:07.240 --> 00:02:15.800 is he he's my age sixty four, same class, so so let me 31 00:02:15.599 --> 00:02:20.319 obviously seven fantastic calliphan crew. He's going to the Creed. Okay, so 32 00:02:20.400 --> 00:02:23.639 let me ask you. Do you ask you this personal? And it's not 33 00:02:23.759 --> 00:02:27.479 about you. I don't want to make anybody. Do you worry about your 34 00:02:27.479 --> 00:02:30.000 retirement? You remember? You worry about what I'm gonna do? Yeah? 35 00:02:30.319 --> 00:02:34.319 Yeah, like like what my life is going to be like I don't. 36 00:02:34.960 --> 00:02:38.199 I don't because mine's way different from here. But yeah, for me, 37 00:02:38.919 --> 00:02:43.360 I'm just gonna keep doing what what I like doing, what keeps me busy, 38 00:02:43.360 --> 00:02:46.159 whether it's this radio show, writing for the writing for the magazine. 39 00:02:46.280 --> 00:02:49.919 You know what this mean? Do you know what that means? I'm not 40 00:02:49.960 --> 00:02:53.759 really going to retire. You retired now? Yeah, I'm retired now. 41 00:02:53.759 --> 00:02:55.800 I don't consider myself retired, but but you but you are if you're going 42 00:02:55.879 --> 00:02:59.000 to continue to do the same thing you're doing now. No, I'd like 43 00:02:59.039 --> 00:03:02.360 to think that I'm just keeping I'm continuing to work. I don't consider myself 44 00:03:02.400 --> 00:03:06.479 retired, you're you're But but if you retire, I just asked, I 45 00:03:06.520 --> 00:03:12.400 just don't have a real job. This is and this is you know what 46 00:03:12.479 --> 00:03:15.479 I'm saying, I do you're retired now because you'll be doing the same thing, 47 00:03:15.560 --> 00:03:17.400 yeah, in retirement, Yeah, because I'm doing what I'm doing. 48 00:03:17.719 --> 00:03:23.319 One because my family. You know, I need to, right. I 49 00:03:23.360 --> 00:03:25.400 don't want my wife kicking me out of the house, you know, because 50 00:03:25.680 --> 00:03:30.520 you know we need and want some income. But too, I don't want 51 00:03:30.520 --> 00:03:32.120 to. I don't want to retire, Steve, I don't want I don't 52 00:03:32.120 --> 00:03:36.159 want to not be doing anything. I think though that he's sixty four is 53 00:03:36.199 --> 00:03:38.960 relatively young. Sixty four is still young people who don't want to retire because 54 00:03:39.000 --> 00:03:43.120 they have nothing to do. They're afraid of nothing to do, right, 55 00:03:43.479 --> 00:03:46.199 And that's kind of what he was saying. I want to see what this 56 00:03:46.240 --> 00:03:47.879 feels like and then see what I'm gonna do, and then I'll figure it 57 00:03:47.879 --> 00:03:51.919 out. We'll look at the roast. Is it Luisa who's one hundred years 58 00:03:51.919 --> 00:03:54.719 old and and he's still managing? You know, some guys can't let it 59 00:03:54.759 --> 00:03:59.639 go. Other guys can't. You know. That's the whole thing with the 60 00:03:59.639 --> 00:04:03.280 tricky women, end men, endgames. What do you do with it at 61 00:04:03.319 --> 00:04:06.360 the end of the game. I've seen I've seen too many people retire and 62 00:04:06.360 --> 00:04:11.960 then just lose their mind exactly. And I'm not and I'm guarding against you. 63 00:04:13.759 --> 00:04:15.439 And that's fine. If I forget my stuff every day, find as 64 00:04:15.439 --> 00:04:18.600 long as I find it eventually and know where I'm supposed to be and know 65 00:04:18.600 --> 00:04:21.279 what I'm supposed to be doing. To me, that that's all I'm looking 66 00:04:21.279 --> 00:04:26.639 for. I feel like the things I'm doing, though, I can do 67 00:04:26.720 --> 00:04:32.639 them until I kick right. They're not physically taxing, right, They're not 68 00:04:33.360 --> 00:04:39.480 taxing. I'm enjoying it. I'm enjoying writing for the for Business on magazine. 69 00:04:39.680 --> 00:04:43.519 I'm enjoying doing this show. I'm enjoying the breakfast club that I work 70 00:04:43.560 --> 00:04:46.120 with. And those are the three things that I do. If other things 71 00:04:46.199 --> 00:04:49.240 come along, I'll do them. Terry Francona, he's gonna this is what 72 00:04:49.319 --> 00:04:53.360 he does. He's you know, he's been doing baseball all this time, 73 00:04:53.680 --> 00:04:56.199 but he's gonna walk away from it. And it sounds like he feels pretty 74 00:04:56.240 --> 00:05:00.399 good about it and he's gonna figure it out once he maybe he will manage 75 00:05:00.439 --> 00:05:02.199 again. He didn't say, you know, he kind of said that. 76 00:05:02.199 --> 00:05:04.920 He said, I'll just see when it comes up, and if something comes 77 00:05:04.959 --> 00:05:09.800 up, I'll go do that. So, you know, retirement in the 78 00:05:09.920 --> 00:05:13.800 end has to be comfortable. It can't be forced, right. You can't 79 00:05:13.879 --> 00:05:17.199 force yourself to stop doing things because you're only going to drive yourself crazy. 80 00:05:18.079 --> 00:05:20.519 I mean, that's how that's how I look at it. I've known, 81 00:05:20.600 --> 00:05:25.759 you know, I've known so many people who retired a lot of cops who 82 00:05:25.879 --> 00:05:32.759 retire, your twenty years of this daily, daily stress and daily intensity that 83 00:05:32.839 --> 00:05:38.079 they live with. Then they quit and then they lose their minds. Now, 84 00:05:38.120 --> 00:05:41.279 my unfortunately, my two brothers who did that. I mean they when 85 00:05:41.319 --> 00:05:45.720 they stopped working, stop being police officers, they stopped doing anything, and 86 00:05:45.800 --> 00:05:47.800 you know, they just and they're they're okay, you know, but there's 87 00:05:47.839 --> 00:05:50.519 a lot of them who are not because you can't they can't figure out what 88 00:05:50.519 --> 00:05:56.800 You can't just turn it off. Some people can, some people can't. 89 00:05:57.079 --> 00:06:01.240 I feel that I have to have something to be doing every day. Now. 90 00:06:01.839 --> 00:06:05.000 It can't be golf seven days a week. Right. Your wife wouldn't 91 00:06:05.000 --> 00:06:10.639 not allow that, you would if I did my chorders? Well, then 92 00:06:10.680 --> 00:06:15.800 you go, you have chores to do? Good God do all right, 93 00:06:16.360 --> 00:06:19.399 Okay, let's move on. For those of you who are trying to get 94 00:06:19.480 --> 00:06:21.879 to get a bet down or something like that. Joe Burrow is going to 95 00:06:21.959 --> 00:06:26.800 start for the Bengals tonight. He was he was questionable headed into this game 96 00:06:26.800 --> 00:06:31.600 with due playing the Rams. They need to win. They need to win. 97 00:06:31.959 --> 00:06:35.879 They definitely need to win, absolutely need to win. But you know, 98 00:06:35.879 --> 00:06:39.959 he again he had been listening as questionable all along, he is, 99 00:06:40.000 --> 00:06:43.360 in fact gonna start. There's two Monday night games tonight. You got the 100 00:06:43.480 --> 00:06:48.160 you got the the the Bengals hosting the Rams. That starts at five fifteen 101 00:06:48.600 --> 00:06:53.720 our time, and then uh, starting at about ten minutes, you've got 102 00:06:53.720 --> 00:06:57.639 the Eagles at the Buccaneers. Eagles are giving four and a half. The 103 00:06:57.680 --> 00:07:00.879 Bengals are giving the ree kind of not very sixty Monday night, kind of 104 00:07:00.920 --> 00:07:03.199 like just a game. Yeah, but you know what, I'm gonna go 105 00:07:03.199 --> 00:07:08.560 home. I'm of course, of course you gonna. I don't think I'm 106 00:07:08.560 --> 00:07:10.920 gonna bet. I didn't. I didn't be well in the NFL this week. 107 00:07:11.600 --> 00:07:15.399 I did great in college. I'm killing it in college. I'm just 108 00:07:15.800 --> 00:07:17.879 not killing it in our in our picks, which I had another bedroom. 109 00:07:18.959 --> 00:07:26.000 I know you are. Keep We talked a little bit about a bunch of 110 00:07:26.079 --> 00:07:29.199 stuff that went on this weekend from from the games, but there were some 111 00:07:29.240 --> 00:07:32.279 important games that were played. Obviously, the Ohio State coming back to beat 112 00:07:32.439 --> 00:07:38.199 Notre Dame a great game, an intense game, got to the end you 113 00:07:38.240 --> 00:07:42.040 know, wins it on the last play of the game. That that was 114 00:07:42.079 --> 00:07:46.120 a great game. But Florida State Clemson game overtime game, that was a 115 00:07:46.120 --> 00:07:50.560 great game. Uh yeah, that that's that storybook. Uh you know, 116 00:07:50.839 --> 00:07:55.120 uh finished that they were hoping for with the kid who the guy who had 117 00:07:56.639 --> 00:07:59.759 got called in off the street to kick in this game, and he missed 118 00:08:00.199 --> 00:08:03.720 twenty nine yard or they would have won the game. That's too bad. 119 00:08:03.000 --> 00:08:07.600 I didn't know that story. Yeah, that's too bad. You know, 120 00:08:07.800 --> 00:08:11.560 Washington State beating up on Oregon State, and I told you Oregon State's not 121 00:08:11.199 --> 00:08:15.519 thought I had Washington State. I had Washington State thinking that they would beat 122 00:08:15.560 --> 00:08:18.519 him at home. Yeah, but they're still good. I mean they're still 123 00:08:18.519 --> 00:08:20.639 pretty good. But there but you know, I'm sure you look okay, 124 00:08:20.639 --> 00:08:24.439 they're not gonna win the league. No, no, but let me tell 125 00:08:24.439 --> 00:08:28.120 yourself, because they've already got a lost. They haven't played any of these 126 00:08:28.519 --> 00:08:31.079 tell you. Let me tell you something. Because another bit that we have 127 00:08:31.240 --> 00:08:35.639 is the USC Washington. I'm becoming more like, yeah, and you should 128 00:08:35.919 --> 00:08:39.360 because Washington is pretty good. Washington is very good. You see, USC 129 00:08:39.480 --> 00:08:45.159 still has troubles on on on defense face you could hang with them the way 130 00:08:45.200 --> 00:08:48.960 they did. Do they play each other Washington USC? I'm pretty sure they 131 00:08:48.000 --> 00:08:50.480 did. And where is that game? I'm gonna look that up. I'm 132 00:08:50.519 --> 00:08:54.279 pretty sure they do. Uh good, because it's I mean, it's it's 133 00:08:54.360 --> 00:09:01.559 it's the game of the year, right, should be, should be And 134 00:09:01.639 --> 00:09:03.919 so so that's I do. I'm getting more and more convinced about Washington. 135 00:09:05.080 --> 00:09:11.039 Oregon looked fantastic. The Pac twelve continued to shine nationally November the fourth at 136 00:09:11.240 --> 00:09:13.360 US So that should be a factor. Right, So we'll see, we'll 137 00:09:13.360 --> 00:09:16.840 see what happened. I just think, uh, you know, and and 138 00:09:18.039 --> 00:09:24.000 and and Michael Michael pannox is still he's very the guy, very good. 139 00:09:24.159 --> 00:09:26.240 You know, we'll see what happens. And you're gonna see him this weekend. 140 00:09:26.559 --> 00:09:30.720 Just see Williams get hitting in the arts. No, so, oh, 141 00:09:31.120 --> 00:09:33.759 there's play. They're getting ready to snap a play. Then he's kind 142 00:09:33.759 --> 00:09:35.879 of like tells trying to tell the center, okay, you know where he's 143 00:09:35.919 --> 00:09:39.399 going to change a player or something in the center, and they call it 144 00:09:39.480 --> 00:09:41.679 time out or whatever, and then the center snaps and hit him right in 145 00:09:41.799 --> 00:09:50.679 the ashes. Credited. I think Bills did Bill Centis or Brian, she 146 00:09:50.759 --> 00:09:54.960 looked, how boy decent? They look well? Either that or US's defense 147 00:09:54.080 --> 00:09:58.360 is that bad? Oh yeah, okay maybe. And it's one game. 148 00:09:58.399 --> 00:10:01.200 You can't really tell one thing well. And that's the thing about a lot 149 00:10:01.240 --> 00:10:03.840 a lot of these games. It's people are going to try and set a 150 00:10:03.919 --> 00:10:09.120 season long expectation from the games that happened this weekend, and you can't. 151 00:10:09.200 --> 00:10:11.639 Right. That's why jay I asked you this at the beginning of the beginning 152 00:10:11.639 --> 00:10:16.799 of this today. What have you learned from Arizona? This is what we 153 00:10:16.879 --> 00:10:18.840 think, and they you not a very good team. They beat them. 154 00:10:18.879 --> 00:10:24.279 Okay, second game they played well and didn't play well against the mediocre SEC 155 00:10:24.399 --> 00:10:26.759 team in Mississippi States. Very good, right, Third game, you tap 156 00:10:26.879 --> 00:10:31.639 is not very good and they they handled them, but they didn't overwhelm. 157 00:10:31.759 --> 00:10:35.440 So you understand where I'm good. And in fourth game they play play the 158 00:10:35.440 --> 00:10:39.200 worst, one of the worst teams in the league and they beat them by 159 00:10:39.200 --> 00:10:41.559 one. Yeah, you would understand what I'm saying. It's not a good 160 00:10:43.440 --> 00:10:46.519 litmus test, right. Well. And it's funny because you sit here and 161 00:10:46.559 --> 00:10:52.200 you think, because you know, let's let's remember that we're gonna talk to 162 00:10:52.240 --> 00:10:56.600 Heath pray about this. In nineteen ninety two, the week before Arizona went 163 00:10:56.679 --> 00:11:01.240 and they had that game against Miami, but they could have beat them. 164 00:11:01.360 --> 00:11:03.480 They lost for Oregon State the week before that, a bad an Organ State 165 00:11:03.480 --> 00:11:07.879 team was it was the only win week the week. You just don't know. 166 00:11:07.120 --> 00:11:13.360 So do I feel like I have nothing that leads me to believe that 167 00:11:13.440 --> 00:11:18.480 Arizona can be Washington this weekend other than they get to play them, so 168 00:11:18.360 --> 00:11:22.679 I used to. I know we're kind of tuition up the minutes. I 169 00:11:22.720 --> 00:11:28.039 don't have a breaking Okay, So, so are you still confidence level top 170 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:31.399 ten? Being a ten one being not so confident they're winning six games? 171 00:11:33.679 --> 00:11:39.200 Yeah, because I'm looking at the schedule now, Okay. I I think 172 00:11:39.200 --> 00:11:43.600 they can beat Colorado because if Colorado can only score points, it can't stop 173 00:11:43.600 --> 00:11:46.240 you from scoring. Arizone's got a good defense, you know, look at 174 00:11:46.240 --> 00:11:50.360 look at what the Organ defense did to Colorado. I think Arizona can be 175 00:11:50.399 --> 00:11:52.799 in Colorado. I feel I feel better about Arizona being in Colorado than they 176 00:11:52.840 --> 00:11:56.960 did before the Organ. Okay, Okay, So there's one I watched a 177 00:11:56.960 --> 00:12:03.679 lot of the UCLA Utah game. Zone will be UCLA. Okay, so 178 00:12:03.799 --> 00:12:07.440 that's two. All right. So now I think they'll be at a s 179 00:12:07.559 --> 00:12:11.639 U. So that's three plus. I think they can. I feel better 180 00:12:11.679 --> 00:12:16.360 about whether or not they can beat Oregon State than I did before the weekend. 181 00:12:16.399 --> 00:12:18.840 I think they can beat the Organ State here. Now I'm gonna say 182 00:12:20.120 --> 00:12:22.840 they got no shot to win at Washington State. That was one of the 183 00:12:22.879 --> 00:12:26.519 games. But see the two games now that I think where we talked, 184 00:12:26.519 --> 00:12:28.559 we were saying Organ State, they were the two important games. It's not 185 00:12:28.639 --> 00:12:33.240 Oregon State in Ucla. They've got to they they've got to get one of 186 00:12:33.279 --> 00:12:35.000 those games. Then they got to take Colorado, and they got to take 187 00:12:35.000 --> 00:12:43.480 AID. It's here, it's here. We'll get to that most. I 188 00:12:43.480 --> 00:12:46.120 think there's three. I do think there's three games in there that's gonna be 189 00:12:46.120 --> 00:12:48.840 tough. No it is. Let me tell you, I think it's gonna 190 00:12:48.840 --> 00:12:52.000 doable. The way you presented it on I'm okay with that. There's there's 191 00:12:52.000 --> 00:12:56.919 four games right there that I think are all winnable, and they need to 192 00:12:56.960 --> 00:13:01.120 win three of them. Okay, Oregon State, Ucla, Colorado, and 193 00:13:01.200 --> 00:13:05.080 ask you all winnable games. So if they yeah, Colorado is gonna be 194 00:13:05.120 --> 00:13:05.720 tough, you know, Oh, of course it's gonna be tough. But 195 00:13:05.759 --> 00:13:09.759 I don't think Oregon State is as tough as we thought it was going to 196 00:13:09.799 --> 00:13:15.559 be. Now, I just don't think that he's not he's not that great. 197 00:13:15.639 --> 00:13:18.360 I don't want to poop poo on your on your I don't disagree with 198 00:13:18.360 --> 00:13:22.200 you, and I don't agree with you, but I can see three wins 199 00:13:22.240 --> 00:13:24.000 out there. Yeah, that's why I don't can't agree with I can't disagree 200 00:13:24.039 --> 00:13:26.960 with you. It's possible, It's pretty possible. And then if they do 201 00:13:28.000 --> 00:13:31.639 the thing where they would beat somebody that they're not supposed to be, they 202 00:13:31.639 --> 00:13:35.759 can afford to lose one they're not supposed to lose. Look, that could 203 00:13:35.759 --> 00:13:39.679 be pivotal. Well, the Stanford game felt like a loss up until it 204 00:13:39.799 --> 00:13:45.480 is. Yeah, it was that. It was that game that Arizona always 205 00:13:45.480 --> 00:13:48.840 loses, that it shouldn't lose. It felt like a lot in the first 206 00:13:48.879 --> 00:13:52.120 quarter, it felt like a lot like, oh, no, where was 207 00:13:52.120 --> 00:13:56.679 the Oregon State game here? Okay, that's a factor. Yeah, but 208 00:13:56.159 --> 00:14:00.799 the Stanford game felt like that loss that Arizona always get that shouldn't get. 209 00:14:01.559 --> 00:14:05.200 And then and they want it. That's a game that in a game like 210 00:14:05.279 --> 00:14:07.759 that that's a game that Arizona loses all the time. If you guys want 211 00:14:07.759 --> 00:14:09.879 to call us after this, after heath break, give us a call. 212 00:14:11.080 --> 00:14:13.960 Are you still high on six wins? Do you not feel that way? 213 00:14:15.600 --> 00:14:18.799 Brian call Brian forget I don't. I'm I'm sure there's a lot of people 214 00:14:18.799 --> 00:14:22.200 who don't. See So if they want to call usticking calls after the heath 215 00:14:22.200 --> 00:14:24.559 break, let's go to that. Now. Part of it's can depend on 216 00:14:24.559 --> 00:14:28.960 how they come out of that USC and Washington how healthy healthy exactly, That's 217 00:14:28.960 --> 00:14:31.000 what I'm saying. All Right, we're gonna take our break, We're gonna 218 00:14:31.039 --> 00:14:33.480 get Heath bray on and uh talk about some Washington stuff here. 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We'll put the work 298 00:20:14.519 --> 00:20:19.559 in for you. Steve Ribera and Jakins Solace, they have their eye on 299 00:20:19.680 --> 00:20:26.279 the board on two Sons Sports station, Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Hey, 300 00:20:26.319 --> 00:20:27.920 welcome back to you on the ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty on Steve 301 00:20:27.960 --> 00:20:32.079 Roberta, you're Jakin's awesome. Now on the phone, we have heat free 302 00:20:32.079 --> 00:20:37.680 break former U of a football player. How you doing, Heath d Well, 303 00:20:37.720 --> 00:20:40.240 Steve, how you guys do? On Jay? We're doing fine. 304 00:20:40.279 --> 00:20:41.960 Thank you, Heath. Good to talk to you. We have a lot 305 00:20:41.960 --> 00:20:45.319 of things to get to with you. Jay wanted to have some questions about 306 00:20:45.319 --> 00:20:48.440 the good old days. Yeah, you know as always. I mean, 307 00:20:48.519 --> 00:20:51.759 you know that ninety two Washington game was like one of the you know, 308 00:20:51.839 --> 00:20:55.200 great games ever. You know, so we're probably gonna want to talk to 309 00:20:55.200 --> 00:20:57.799 you before every Washington game and just bring it up and rehash it every time. 310 00:20:57.839 --> 00:21:02.279 So we'll do that today if you're okay with that, right, Well, 311 00:21:02.359 --> 00:21:04.519 I think this I think this one's a good opportunity since we you know, 312 00:21:04.599 --> 00:21:07.799 we're in a pretty good position. They're extremely good, and there's gonna 313 00:21:07.799 --> 00:21:12.160 be a lot of people. They were wearing red evidently, apparently, let's 314 00:21:12.160 --> 00:21:15.559 go back to that game first, nineteen ninety two, you guys had you 315 00:21:15.599 --> 00:21:19.160 know, there's a swarm had started in the whole mystique of all that you 316 00:21:19.200 --> 00:21:22.920 guys, it's Washington week, they're coming in number one in the country. 317 00:21:22.039 --> 00:21:26.480 Was there think back? Was there something that that happened or was going on 318 00:21:27.160 --> 00:21:32.680 it practiced that week in the locker room or whatever that led you to believe 319 00:21:32.799 --> 00:21:40.880 that you guys were going to beat those guys Stamford The week before, we 320 00:21:41.680 --> 00:21:44.319 had started the year pretty slow. I think we were four and two. 321 00:21:44.440 --> 00:21:49.680 We went and played Stanford, I believe if I'm right, and uh we 322 00:21:49.799 --> 00:21:53.480 had an opportunity to play, uh, the number one team in the country. 323 00:21:53.799 --> 00:21:57.319 We had lost to Miami by one point when they were ranked number one 324 00:21:57.319 --> 00:22:00.880 in the country earlier in the year. Right, we knew we had a 325 00:22:00.920 --> 00:22:07.839 tremendous defense and if our offense didn't make mistakes, we were going to be 326 00:22:07.880 --> 00:22:11.079 in a very good position. It was one of those things too, that 327 00:22:11.119 --> 00:22:15.960 we had the back then ABC's a crew was Bob Greasy and Keith Jackson. 328 00:22:17.119 --> 00:22:21.319 They were there, We saw them in McHale. It was just a big 329 00:22:21.359 --> 00:22:26.720 deal. And I'll tell you it's uh. We knew we were gonna win 330 00:22:26.519 --> 00:22:30.240 before we even left the locker room. And that's not a joke. I 331 00:22:30.240 --> 00:22:33.000 mean, it was one of those things where we just knew that that they 332 00:22:33.000 --> 00:22:37.400 were they were in trouble and we're and that's it's hard to believe since we 333 00:22:37.480 --> 00:22:41.599 had lost them the previous two years by the combined score of one hundred and 334 00:22:41.599 --> 00:22:47.200 eight to fourteen, and so it was one of those things. It was. 335 00:22:47.279 --> 00:22:49.880 It was really great for me. It was my senior year, as 336 00:22:51.200 --> 00:22:55.839 my seniors as a little bit anti climatic because I've broken my back and was 337 00:22:55.880 --> 00:22:57.279 still being able to play a lot, but not notnywhere near what I had 338 00:22:57.319 --> 00:23:02.960 done the previous two years. But the team at Arizona would vote for team 339 00:23:03.000 --> 00:23:08.400 captains after the first half of the season, and they voted me and Ty 340 00:23:08.519 --> 00:23:14.759 Parton and George Moolulu and Richard Maddox and we weren't warmed up and we went 341 00:23:14.799 --> 00:23:18.839 back in the to the to the which would essentially be the West Side locker 342 00:23:18.920 --> 00:23:23.200 room, then the northwest corners where a locker room used to be, and 343 00:23:23.240 --> 00:23:26.240 when we were in in there, they it was very very quiet. It 344 00:23:26.279 --> 00:23:30.079 was very very quiet. And as you guys know, Arizona Stadium would not 345 00:23:30.119 --> 00:23:32.799 fill in, and even if even if it was a sellout, it wouldn't 346 00:23:32.799 --> 00:23:36.160 start really getting full until midway through the first quarter on the Tachnic quarter. 347 00:23:37.079 --> 00:23:40.880 Yeah, it's one of those things that's frustrating as a player, because you 348 00:23:40.920 --> 00:23:42.160 know, you go to other places and they're full when they get go. 349 00:23:44.079 --> 00:23:47.839 Well, the place in our locker room was silent. There was nobody's saying 350 00:23:47.920 --> 00:23:49.000 word. The coaches weren't seeing a thing. They were just walking around as 351 00:23:49.000 --> 00:23:53.200 a lot of wister as a lot of tense tenths waiting. And then the 352 00:23:53.960 --> 00:24:00.839 when the referee stuck his head in and called for captains, that place went 353 00:24:02.079 --> 00:24:10.960 absolutely bananas. I mean bananas that tape towels, stream and yelling and me 354 00:24:11.119 --> 00:24:15.039 and Tie and and and George and Rich. We walked out and we got 355 00:24:15.079 --> 00:24:19.559 to the northwest corner of that stadium and when we got there, we looked 356 00:24:19.640 --> 00:24:26.119 up and that was an empty seat in that building, right, Every single 357 00:24:26.279 --> 00:24:29.400 solitary person that was coming to that game seemed like they were already in their 358 00:24:29.440 --> 00:24:32.920 seat, so when they saw us in the corner, it was it was 359 00:24:33.039 --> 00:24:34.960 it was electric. It was just from the get go. It was electricity 360 00:24:34.960 --> 00:24:40.000 I've never experienced before or since at Arizona Stadium ever. So let me ask 361 00:24:40.039 --> 00:24:42.400 you one of the things that I think I'm pretty stable and saying this, 362 00:24:42.680 --> 00:24:47.440 the only thing I've learned and covering you guys athletes, like your age, 363 00:24:47.920 --> 00:24:52.000 your quality, you're you're how good you guys are? Is that how emotions 364 00:24:52.039 --> 00:24:55.960 play? Affector. You talked about the game before right against Oregon stated or 365 00:24:55.960 --> 00:24:57.400 staff or wherever it was, and you get beat and then you have you 366 00:24:57.480 --> 00:25:00.640 come against the best team to cut Tree and then you played up to up 367 00:25:00.640 --> 00:25:04.599 to their level or you played tough. Tell talk to me about the emotions 368 00:25:04.680 --> 00:25:08.599 of a team or a player having to get up and you guys do and 369 00:25:08.640 --> 00:25:15.200 then then the next week not doing the same thing. Well that that I 370 00:25:15.279 --> 00:25:18.319 think that that happens a lot. I mean, my son plays on a 371 00:25:18.400 --> 00:25:22.599 high school team, Sara up here in Skysdale, and we just got thumped 372 00:25:22.640 --> 00:25:26.640 like you wouldn't believe. Last week. The team just came out completely flat 373 00:25:26.680 --> 00:25:30.759 from the beginning of the game and they just I mean they got just shellac. 374 00:25:30.920 --> 00:25:33.480 It was it was awful. But the point I'm making is, is 375 00:25:33.559 --> 00:25:37.240 it exactly to your point, Steve. They they KEMP came out against the 376 00:25:37.359 --> 00:25:41.680 rival earlier and was just you know, gang Busters. So in our case, 377 00:25:42.079 --> 00:25:45.480 I don't. I mean we had a bunch of sickos. I mean 378 00:25:45.559 --> 00:25:48.920 we had Rob Walter, we had Baron as Standards, we had Teddy Bruski, 379 00:25:48.440 --> 00:25:52.200 we had me, we had Ty Parton, we had Jimmy Hopkins. 380 00:25:52.759 --> 00:25:56.440 I mean, we had Jim Hoffman, Chuck Osbourne, Brand Boyer. I 381 00:25:56.480 --> 00:26:02.720 mean we had some dudes that were absolutely nutballs. I mean when I say 382 00:26:02.759 --> 00:26:04.440 that, I mean that in the most flouting way possible. These guys would 383 00:26:04.559 --> 00:26:10.160 fly around. Now, Rob was a little different Rob Walter because he didn't 384 00:26:10.160 --> 00:26:14.240 like, he didn't get emotional. We put a heart monitor on him and 385 00:26:14.279 --> 00:26:17.519 he made a sack against Ash and his heart rate got up to ninety eight. 386 00:26:18.920 --> 00:26:21.680 Teddy Bruski had a heart monitor and he got a sack. He has 387 00:26:21.680 --> 00:26:26.759 went up to one sixty eight. Is that's the difference between you know, 388 00:26:27.920 --> 00:26:33.720 the players. More people were like Teddy than like Rob. I was like 389 00:26:33.799 --> 00:26:37.039 that I had to get really rolling and it wasn't hard for me to do. 390 00:26:37.880 --> 00:26:40.359 And there were some tough, tough dudes, and that's one of the 391 00:26:40.440 --> 00:26:42.319 things to keep in mind. Two guys, one of the things about the 392 00:26:42.400 --> 00:26:47.599 ninety two teams that made them very good is they stayed healthy. We don't 393 00:26:47.640 --> 00:26:52.359 have the depth at Arizona and still don't of other you know, Alabamas and 394 00:26:52.039 --> 00:26:59.400 things like that. What we're dealing with now is we're dealing with a similar 395 00:26:59.480 --> 00:27:02.559 deal that I experience. Ninety one was our best team. We went four 396 00:27:02.599 --> 00:27:08.599 and seven that year, and the reason is is because we had seventeen of 397 00:27:08.640 --> 00:27:14.960 our twenty two starters at some point miss games. And we don't have the 398 00:27:15.039 --> 00:27:18.759 depth to do uh, we don't have the depth to do that. I'm 399 00:27:18.799 --> 00:27:21.880 on the radio and son, what's up, and I'll call you. I 400 00:27:21.960 --> 00:27:26.160 just had Tom Bobo come by the come by the UH car and see his 401 00:27:26.200 --> 00:27:30.799 head and he was pretty safety after meet at VET, I recruited him. 402 00:27:30.599 --> 00:27:33.839 We're both at the pediatrics office right now. My sons in are get his 403 00:27:33.880 --> 00:27:38.200 foot looked at. He had banged up in California this sekend. So but 404 00:27:38.480 --> 00:27:41.920 back to your point, Steed, that is extremely important and I do believe 405 00:27:41.920 --> 00:27:45.720 it's It's also has a lot to say about the type of players you have, 406 00:27:45.799 --> 00:27:48.319 because when you do have have those guys that are that are a little 407 00:27:48.319 --> 00:27:52.759 bit off Tip Kilts. I mean, I'm gonna tell you what. You're 408 00:27:52.759 --> 00:27:55.000 not gonna meet at Brandt Bowyer in the world. You're not gonna meet at 409 00:27:55.039 --> 00:27:57.160 Chuck Osborne in the world. You're certainly not gonna meet another Teddy Bruskie. 410 00:27:57.400 --> 00:28:00.119 You won't meet another type pardon, there ain't many and me walk in the 411 00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:03.079 face the earth. Jimmie Hopkins has got to be one of the most unique 412 00:28:03.079 --> 00:28:07.720 individuals I've ever met in my life. So that had a lot to do 413 00:28:07.799 --> 00:28:11.200 it as well. So let me ask you this, and this is an 414 00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:12.519 observation, oh, because you know what, you were a quarterback, so 415 00:28:12.799 --> 00:28:15.599 you might be able to be able to feel this in So if Afitda comes 416 00:28:15.599 --> 00:28:19.079 in for Dolora, right, and they need to they need to score because 417 00:28:19.200 --> 00:28:23.200 otherwise they might lose where they could lose to me, and this is what 418 00:28:23.240 --> 00:28:27.039 I saw, what I sensed. He came in and the team got some 419 00:28:27.279 --> 00:28:30.960 energy, they played with more energy. I could be wrong, but that's 420 00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:37.680 what it got to me. Does that happen. Yes, that happens all 421 00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:41.200 of the time, and it's not always I wouldn't say even energy as much 422 00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:45.319 as sometimes there's just there's just trends that that happened. And during the game, 423 00:28:45.640 --> 00:28:48.079 now the Stanford game this weekend, when if the feeda came in, 424 00:28:48.240 --> 00:28:53.799 I had a very good feeling about that. I just I liked the kid. 425 00:28:53.920 --> 00:28:57.119 I've watched him practice. I mean not that I don't like Jade, 426 00:29:00.200 --> 00:29:03.200 but but Fafita, there's something about him that is just a fireball. And 427 00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:06.640 I mean one of the things I love about it in the most is I 428 00:29:06.640 --> 00:29:10.519 stood next to him and his head doesn't come up to my armpits. I 429 00:29:10.559 --> 00:29:15.079 mean, he is, he's a he's minuscule, and so there's something about 430 00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:18.279 that. Having if there was a there was a shot on TV where he 431 00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:22.039 was calling the play in the huddle and he's actually his head is back and 432 00:29:22.079 --> 00:29:27.559 he's looking up at all of his teammates like my son looks at me or 433 00:29:27.680 --> 00:29:33.279 used to when he was little. And so having that that, there's there's 434 00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:37.480 just different there's different styles, and a lot of times what will happen is 435 00:29:37.480 --> 00:29:42.039 is your style is not going to be be able to exploit defensive styles and 436 00:29:42.079 --> 00:29:45.319 then when they come in they change a little bit of the style with Fafita, 437 00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:48.640 and then that is able to Sanford doesn't have as good an answer for 438 00:29:48.680 --> 00:29:52.440 it as they did with the offensive. The door was running, and because 439 00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:56.279 Fafita was more mobile, he was getting out. He was definitely getting out 440 00:29:56.279 --> 00:30:00.000 of the pocket, making really really good throws, doing things a little differently, 441 00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:03.359 and that's that's that's that has a lot to do with it too, 442 00:30:03.880 --> 00:30:07.359 and it causes the energy steve that you're witnessing. It causes that. And 443 00:30:07.480 --> 00:30:12.079 there's the one of the biggest things that that people don't realize is the importance 444 00:30:12.119 --> 00:30:17.880 of momentum. Momentum is huge. I can't tell you how many times we're 445 00:30:17.920 --> 00:30:21.599 getting our bus kicked and we just get that first first down and then we 446 00:30:21.640 --> 00:30:23.079 get another one, and then we get another one. Then we get a 447 00:30:23.160 --> 00:30:26.200 touchdown, and then we start rolling. Then our defense wakes up and then 448 00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:32.400 we start we block a punt and then the whole degon thing changes. Yeah, 449 00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:34.160 I saw that too, you know, he said, you know, 450 00:30:34.640 --> 00:30:41.160 we make a lot of the last result thinking about the next game, right, 451 00:30:41.519 --> 00:30:47.640 you know, Arizona sneaks past what's been you know, unanimously considered the 452 00:30:47.680 --> 00:30:51.240 worst team in the league. They beat him by a point at their place. 453 00:30:51.400 --> 00:30:56.400 Yeah, there's you watch that game and there's nothing visibly that you see 454 00:30:56.480 --> 00:31:00.920 that says they can be Washington this week, because why is you know, 455 00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:06.160 so damn good. But something happens, right that happened to you, guys, 456 00:31:06.200 --> 00:31:08.599 This happened to other teams. We've seen other teams be awful and then 457 00:31:08.680 --> 00:31:14.240 be great. How does that happen? This isn't thing to keep in mind, 458 00:31:14.279 --> 00:31:17.920 guys. Now, I don't go around quoting Dick told me a lot, 459 00:31:17.960 --> 00:31:22.640 but I do a lot more since he passed because I don't want to 460 00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:25.440 embarrass him in But I'll tell you what. One of the greatest things he 461 00:31:25.480 --> 00:31:27.599 ever told us was in our room. We played awful in the road and 462 00:31:27.640 --> 00:31:33.519 beat Oregon State and they were the doormats at that time, and he just 463 00:31:33.559 --> 00:31:37.119 looked at us and we were all feeling like crap, we played bad, 464 00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:40.680 and he just looks and he goes, you know what, There's one thing, 465 00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:44.480 though, guys. He said, we just won a conference game on 466 00:31:44.519 --> 00:31:47.440 the road. And he said, the hardest thing and the human being could 467 00:31:47.440 --> 00:31:51.160 do on this planet is win a football game, and I was like, 468 00:31:52.079 --> 00:31:55.519 all right, I'll take that. And so you got that mentality to Jay 469 00:31:55.559 --> 00:31:59.039 where you got you know, it's an understanding that this is not an endeavor, 470 00:31:59.079 --> 00:32:01.680 that it's just numbers on a paper. This isn't a mathematic equation. 471 00:32:04.440 --> 00:32:10.200 This is a subjective interaction between two variables. And so you can't always always 472 00:32:10.279 --> 00:32:15.880 think that it's just going to be crazy good. Because the team that beat 473 00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:19.079 us this weekend in my son's high school game, for comparison, was nowhere 474 00:32:19.160 --> 00:32:23.200 near as good as the score indicated. It was just one of the things. 475 00:32:23.480 --> 00:32:25.640 And now, I mean, we look like we couldn't beat anybody, 476 00:32:25.640 --> 00:32:29.960 but we're very good at the football team. When you're looking at Arizona, 477 00:32:30.079 --> 00:32:31.599 I still think that they they're a very good football team. They showed me 478 00:32:31.640 --> 00:32:36.640 a lot on defense, and I'll tell you we've got a heck of an 479 00:32:36.680 --> 00:32:40.799 offensive line, and they're getting better than they have been. And I mean 480 00:32:40.839 --> 00:32:45.160 we're sitting here picking picking stuff apart. What are they four and one? 481 00:32:46.119 --> 00:32:49.039 Three and one? Excuse me? All right, yeah, they played one 482 00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:52.839 lesson we did, so they're three and one. I mean that's if you 483 00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:55.440 and I, if we're all sitting around having a beer in in July saying, 484 00:32:55.559 --> 00:32:59.519 hey man, we get the September twenty fifth, and we're three and 485 00:32:59.559 --> 00:33:01.319 one. I think we'd take that pretty much. And the only game we 486 00:33:01.359 --> 00:33:05.519 lost was in overtime at miss Misissippi State, Right, I think we all 487 00:33:05.519 --> 00:33:07.960 said that that was gonna happen. Yeah, Well this is weeah there what 488 00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:08.720 we thought they were going to be. So let me ask you this. 489 00:33:08.799 --> 00:33:13.920 If you got the call to come and talk to this team, this team 490 00:33:14.119 --> 00:33:20.960 before the game on Saturday, what would what would you tell? You? 491 00:33:21.039 --> 00:33:23.920 Know, I'm not a pregame stuff. I tell you I'm not a guy 492 00:33:23.960 --> 00:33:29.079 that I'm a guy that just sits there and goes, get out, let's 493 00:33:29.119 --> 00:33:30.759 get let's go. You said, you know, nothing's talk, let's go, 494 00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:34.559 let's go. That's but that was my mentality all the time. Yeah. 495 00:33:34.680 --> 00:33:37.279 But I'll tell you what I would tell them is that you've got an 496 00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:43.640 opportunity on a national stage with a bunch of people that will come back and 497 00:33:43.720 --> 00:33:47.240 see you next week. If you beat these guys today, and you can 498 00:33:47.319 --> 00:33:51.160 beat them, and I still think we can, I mean, if you 499 00:33:51.240 --> 00:33:54.240 fly around on defense, get in panaxy space. I've got a friend of 500 00:33:54.279 --> 00:34:00.119 mine whose son is a starting uh center, They're they're very, very good. 501 00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:04.559 They're probably I would say, I mean, no, no offense to 502 00:34:04.680 --> 00:34:07.359 USC, but I still think Washington maybe the best team in the league, 503 00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:14.880 including Oregon in the USC. Yeah, so you know, ay, you 504 00:34:14.920 --> 00:34:16.280 know what if you're gonna do with Rod Rossby's it's about, you know, 505 00:34:16.360 --> 00:34:21.079 hey, go out and bust your tail and play well, love you buddies 506 00:34:21.079 --> 00:34:23.239 getting involved in it. And look what's gonna happen when you win this game. 507 00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:27.239 I mean, you're gonna that's We're gonna have big Mow on our side. 508 00:34:27.400 --> 00:34:30.760 So that's rolling downhill. So he's lastly one of the reasons why I 509 00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:31.599 want to have you on to do a question I was gonna ask you. 510 00:34:31.880 --> 00:34:36.360 We had this debate, well, we had this discussion last week because of 511 00:34:36.440 --> 00:34:40.360 Hunter Colorado playing both ways, Truvis Hunter. So we were thinking who would 512 00:34:40.360 --> 00:34:44.679 be the guy at Arizona that we covered or the last thirty years that would 513 00:34:44.719 --> 00:34:47.559 go be able to go both ways. You played both ways, I think 514 00:34:47.599 --> 00:34:52.400 for a hiccup, right, Yeah, I played well. I played I 515 00:34:52.519 --> 00:34:57.840 played uh, free safety for my first three years and in my junior year 516 00:34:57.880 --> 00:35:00.960 I played free safety, strong safety, middle linebacker, outside linebacker, and 517 00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:04.159 I snapped for punts and heil for field goals. No, but you also 518 00:35:04.199 --> 00:35:06.760 played. In my senior year, I played quarterback. Yeah, yeah, 519 00:35:06.800 --> 00:35:10.239 yes, so could you think of anybody in a wide receiver so so, 520 00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:15.599 could you have sustained it at wide receiver room defensive back? I don't know. 521 00:35:15.639 --> 00:35:19.920 If I don't know with my style of defensive play because I was I 522 00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:22.880 was a cannonball, and that's not that's not a compliment. I was a 523 00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:27.159 guy that win one hundred and one hundred and ninety five miles an hour into 524 00:35:27.199 --> 00:35:30.800 people and would spend the rest of the week in triage in the training room 525 00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:34.599 trying to prepare for the next week. So I beat my body up a 526 00:35:34.639 --> 00:35:37.719 lot more. Now, a guy like Darryl Lewis, Yeah, we said, 527 00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:40.480 we said him, said him. Delu was Delu. Could I think 528 00:35:40.519 --> 00:35:44.280 Delu could have done it? Plus he had the conditioning. I think Chuck 529 00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:46.280 Levy, if he was good enough to play on defense, could have done 530 00:35:46.280 --> 00:35:51.039 it. Yeah, I think, yeah, I think that there's guys I 531 00:35:51.599 --> 00:35:54.719 love. I can't imagine what it would look like if you put Rob Gronkowski 532 00:35:54.719 --> 00:35:58.440 at defensive end and say go get the quarterback. We talked about that, 533 00:35:58.800 --> 00:36:01.239 right right, I mean now, and this man who's this, this McMillian 534 00:36:01.320 --> 00:36:07.320 kid, the not t mac the tight end what's his name mcglocklan. Yeah, 535 00:36:07.320 --> 00:36:10.559 I'm sorry. You mean to tell me that guy wouldn't be intimidating if 536 00:36:10.559 --> 00:36:14.239 he had walked up you saw him cross the line if you're a quarterback. 537 00:36:15.079 --> 00:36:17.440 Yeah, So yeah, you've got some guys and because we don't have the 538 00:36:17.440 --> 00:36:21.320 one that used to be the big one that would that that everyone could do 539 00:36:21.360 --> 00:36:23.920 and pull off, especially in high school, was fullback in linebacker, right 540 00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:28.639 because you didn't run very far and you had they're exactly the same body types 541 00:36:28.679 --> 00:36:31.199 and you just you know they're transitional or a cornerback and a wide receiver like 542 00:36:31.199 --> 00:36:37.639 he got Hunter at Colorado. Now he is an alien. There is just 543 00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:44.280 there's not many unicorns like him, so there's to make a comparison is kind 544 00:36:44.280 --> 00:36:50.000 of like comparison. It's almost like comparing dionea deon standers. I mean, 545 00:36:50.039 --> 00:36:52.480 think about how good he was on offense, how good he was on defense, 546 00:36:52.599 --> 00:36:54.800 and how good he was at baseball. Yeah, yeah, all things. 547 00:36:55.239 --> 00:36:59.239 And I'll tell you the one that the one player that I that I 548 00:36:59.360 --> 00:37:01.559 saw when my had coach to Wake Forest. I was, I was, 549 00:37:01.599 --> 00:37:04.760 I don't know, I was probably ten years old. We went to play 550 00:37:04.880 --> 00:37:08.000 in Auburn and we had to play and as the first game of the year, 551 00:37:08.000 --> 00:37:16.039 and they had this guy named Vincent Jackson at running back. Holy smokes, 552 00:37:16.199 --> 00:37:19.719 I've never seen anything like that, even at ten years old, I 553 00:37:19.880 --> 00:37:22.559 remember, or eleven, whatever it was. And then you see what he 554 00:37:22.599 --> 00:37:24.639 was able to do. I guarantee you you can put that guy in pre 555 00:37:24.760 --> 00:37:28.159 safety. He's gonna murder people. You put him at corner and no one's 556 00:37:28.159 --> 00:37:30.360 gonna be able to complete the ball. You put him at linebacker, no 557 00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:31.760 one's goill be able to run on you. You throw it to him at 558 00:37:31.760 --> 00:37:35.480 wide receiver, he's gonna score. Every time you put him in running back, 559 00:37:35.519 --> 00:37:40.559 he's gonna hell. He probably could throw it to you Vincent Jackson otherwise 560 00:37:40.599 --> 00:37:47.880 than hey Bo Jackson. Yeah, well thanks a bunch of heat. This 561 00:37:47.920 --> 00:37:51.559 was fun. Like I said, yeah, you can expect a call from 562 00:37:51.639 --> 00:37:53.920 us every time he was going to place Washington. You got the guys. 563 00:37:53.920 --> 00:37:59.320 That's fun to be with you. Guys. Your son's gonna be fine. 564 00:37:59.320 --> 00:38:00.760 Thank you. 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Learn more at United Way Tucson dot org. 634 00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:57.239 Sam Miguel High School is participating in the l tur to Tucson. Our school 635 00:42:57.239 --> 00:43:00.800 not only prepares our students for four year colleges, but so offers a train 636 00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:06.000 and reliable temporary workforce for two sons leading businesses. Find out more and visits 637 00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:12.719 San Miguel High dot org. Steve Ravera and Jaken Salaz they have their eye 638 00:43:12.760 --> 00:43:16.679 on the ball on two Sons Sports Stage Chef, Fox Sports fourteen fifty, 639 00:43:17.280 --> 00:43:22.559 Streamy Live. I mean I heart radio. Arm Hey, welcome back to 640 00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:24.559 the ball here at Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, you're Jay. 641 00:43:24.599 --> 00:43:29.719 You've got ten minutes that went well, got a little along with our guests 642 00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:32.159 today. So I wanted to tell him he's wrong with the momentum. But 643 00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:37.679 it's okay, dude, he played I didn't. You didn't. Momentum. 644 00:43:37.719 --> 00:43:43.039 It's the thing. It's the thing. He was a nice run. That's 645 00:43:43.119 --> 00:43:45.880 no one, hey. But you know, the good thing is he mentioned 646 00:43:45.920 --> 00:43:50.599 the same guys we did, almost to the teeth of check Levy. Levy 647 00:43:51.760 --> 00:43:59.159 dar lewis wrong said he mentioned the full back linebacker thing, which was Lance 648 00:43:59.239 --> 00:44:01.880 Briggs, who who played both of those positions in Arizona. I'll be not 649 00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:06.119 at the same time, but you know he was. He was both of 650 00:44:06.159 --> 00:44:08.400 those things. He was so one more that you had said you had said 651 00:44:08.400 --> 00:44:13.280 one guy, and you said, I can't remember who it was now, 652 00:44:13.920 --> 00:44:16.039 but now he yeah, you know, well, and we mentioned him, 653 00:44:16.079 --> 00:44:21.440 we mentioned he yeah, yeah. I don't think you're prepaying a quarterback or 654 00:44:21.480 --> 00:44:24.119 anything those skill positions. Oh, man, the toll and we saw it 655 00:44:24.159 --> 00:44:29.119 takes a toll on You know that that takes a tance on it. Okay, 656 00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:30.480 So anybody want to call? We have like eight eight and a half 657 00:44:30.519 --> 00:44:35.920 minutes. Uh do you think, Oh, where does Arizona stand in your 658 00:44:35.960 --> 00:44:38.760 mind? The key question I asked you. I don't know, Jay, 659 00:44:38.840 --> 00:44:42.840 I don't know. J If this was a race horse, and and and 660 00:44:42.840 --> 00:44:45.559 and and and I'd like to think my analogies for this, or they beat 661 00:44:45.559 --> 00:44:51.320 on not so good Northern Arizona. They lost to Mississippi State, they beat 662 00:44:51.559 --> 00:44:54.119 okay, not so good, you tap, and then they struggle against Stafford. 663 00:44:54.239 --> 00:44:57.679 Would you bet this horse? I don't feel great, you know, 664 00:44:57.760 --> 00:44:59.760 yeah, would you bet this here? We got a call him. Yeah, 665 00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:01.480 I don't. I don't feel great about their chances on Saturday, other 666 00:45:01.519 --> 00:45:05.280 than like I said, they get to play the game. Let's take this 667 00:45:05.400 --> 00:45:13.239 call. Hi, you're on the air and I on the ball. Hey, 668 00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:15.559 man, I just want to say that last game was ugly, man, 669 00:45:16.039 --> 00:45:22.440 Yeah it was. And I said, I remember I said that. 670 00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:28.400 I said, whether if they win by a point or a touchdown or whatever, 671 00:45:28.760 --> 00:45:30.800 you gotta you gotta be happy with the fact that they want to go 672 00:45:31.000 --> 00:45:35.199 defend me on this because you would listen to the show. Jay is a 673 00:45:35.239 --> 00:45:38.119 style points guy. It's how you look at the airport, how you walk 674 00:45:38.199 --> 00:45:44.000 off the bus. I agree, But I did say if they don't beat 675 00:45:44.360 --> 00:45:47.360 I did say, if Arizona doesn't beat Stanford handily, fans are gonna lose 676 00:45:47.400 --> 00:45:51.960 their mind. Okay, And you have to just understand that. And Heath 677 00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:57.320 Bray said it. Winning a conference game on the road is a hard thing. 678 00:45:58.159 --> 00:46:00.440 But so what do you Yeah, I called you last week and I 679 00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:05.159 agreed with you. You just have to win, just up. So what 680 00:46:05.440 --> 00:46:09.719 So what did the game mean to you? And how they played? I 681 00:46:09.760 --> 00:46:16.159 want to know if the fee to be the quarterback because I'm sick of jdl 682 00:46:16.280 --> 00:46:22.000 man. I'm sick of him driving back twenty yards and throwing the ball sixty 683 00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:29.159 yards for an incompletion. Well that was brought up today, that specific play 684 00:46:29.480 --> 00:46:31.800 three years into this. Don't you think you know, Steve, he was 685 00:46:31.840 --> 00:46:37.159 so good so many times last year. I mean, you could argue that 686 00:46:37.159 --> 00:46:40.400 that the game he had against UCLA last year is one of the like, 687 00:46:40.599 --> 00:46:45.599 maybe the top ten or fifteen games. Ever, he was so good in 688 00:46:45.639 --> 00:46:49.039 that game, So you know he can't and you know he can't, and 689 00:46:49.159 --> 00:46:52.400 you know he can't because you see what he did against Yeah, the thing 690 00:46:52.440 --> 00:46:58.119 about the lower is it I don't think he's gotten better. No, I 691 00:46:58.119 --> 00:47:01.159 think he's just the same guy. And I think last year he's playing for 692 00:47:01.239 --> 00:47:04.320 Arizona, no one knew what he was going to be like, you know, 693 00:47:04.880 --> 00:47:08.000 yeah, good point. He's a different player, there's no question about 694 00:47:08.000 --> 00:47:13.239 that. Yeah, he's not been what we He certainly hasn't been what you 695 00:47:13.239 --> 00:47:19.760 were expecting him to be, h exactly. And my last thing is this, 696 00:47:19.760 --> 00:47:22.880 This goes out to two, so you better fill up that stadium, 697 00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:27.960 man, I'll be there. Yeah, this is a huge game, whether 698 00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:30.480 you like the team or not, that's a huge game. It's massive late 699 00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:45.480 game. But it's gonna be time you see Saturday. Take it easy again. 700 00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:50.400 There's nothing that tells me they should be able to handle Plush. So 701 00:47:50.599 --> 00:47:53.639 damn good. They are really good. I mean you could you could argue, 702 00:47:53.960 --> 00:47:58.719 you could argue for them to be number one in the country. Sure. 703 00:47:58.800 --> 00:48:01.119 I think if somebody's put them there, there's something they're starting to get 704 00:48:01.199 --> 00:48:07.320 vote, you know, because Georgia hasn't looked as dominating as right Alabama's nothing 705 00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:13.599 they beat, I know, but but they're just they're they're malling people. 706 00:48:14.039 --> 00:48:16.719 Yeah, and Michael Pennox is just like I told him, Michael Pennox, 707 00:48:17.039 --> 00:48:21.599 he reminds me of of a left handed hitter who has a great swing. 708 00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:29.519 Every ball Heat throws looks like a great ball. I really like him, 709 00:48:29.519 --> 00:48:34.760 you know. You know, Arizona should have got h Delory wouldn't be played 710 00:48:34.960 --> 00:48:38.239 exactly. Yeah, So I think the point of del delor not getting the 711 00:48:38.480 --> 00:48:43.800 better That's all I was gonna bring up the So you have a bad game, 712 00:48:43.880 --> 00:48:45.239 right, and what do they say everywhere? Well, at least she 713 00:48:45.360 --> 00:48:49.800 learned, he learned from it. You don't learn from it all the time. 714 00:48:50.239 --> 00:48:52.800 You wouldn't be in this situation that well, that's just it. He 715 00:48:52.840 --> 00:48:57.639 just doesn't see he does. He hasn't seemed to grasp what they're trying to 716 00:48:57.679 --> 00:49:01.400 do, which is very strange because he seemed to grasp it a lot last 717 00:49:01.440 --> 00:49:05.920 year, right when we talked about we had bad Jade and good jade all 718 00:49:06.000 --> 00:49:07.880 last year. But he had some really good games. He had some bad 719 00:49:07.880 --> 00:49:15.840 games, but and he he's he had one horrible quarter, but otherwise he's 720 00:49:15.880 --> 00:49:21.079 not been horrible. But not so much better than you still by yourself. 721 00:49:21.320 --> 00:49:23.400 Your wife's gunn she gone, she's so. I was gonna say, if 722 00:49:23.400 --> 00:49:27.199 you go back to do the game again, to watch, do me a 723 00:49:27.199 --> 00:49:30.519 favor and see what I see in terms of the energy, and you can 724 00:49:30.559 --> 00:49:32.320 see that, and just how he throws the ball. It seems like he's 725 00:49:32.840 --> 00:49:37.480 he's trying to beat the crap out of receivers. It's just just throw it, 726 00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:39.039 just throw it. No, I'm I'm gonna watch the fourth quarter again 727 00:49:39.079 --> 00:49:43.880 because I want to see if I see what you saw. And he agreed, 728 00:49:43.960 --> 00:49:45.559 right, because I saw enough of it to see he just wasn't He 729 00:49:46.760 --> 00:49:51.760 looked lost. No, but I'm talking about Fafita. Jaden looked the Lord 730 00:49:51.760 --> 00:49:54.280 looked lost the whole game, you know, And then Fafita came in. 731 00:49:54.360 --> 00:49:59.239 He looked like he knew what the hell he was doing. And that's all 732 00:49:59.239 --> 00:50:00.159 you need from your quarter, right, and that's all you want. I 733 00:50:00.239 --> 00:50:04.760 think, I think, purty, think purty. He's not gonna do a 734 00:50:04.760 --> 00:50:08.239 lot of great things, but he's gonna win you somena win some games. 735 00:50:08.519 --> 00:50:12.840 Yeah, look at dak Pres Scott blah blah blah, YadA, YadA YadA. 736 00:50:13.360 --> 00:50:15.320 What happened yesterday. Man, I mean, come on, it's how 737 00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:19.360 you play that day. But you also have to be just the quarterback that 738 00:50:19.559 --> 00:50:24.239 just be consistent. Yeah yeah, I mean so many, so many things 739 00:50:24.280 --> 00:50:29.000 have to go right for Arizona to have any chance on Saturday. The defense 740 00:50:29.039 --> 00:50:32.119 has to be great. They've got to hold Washington probably twenty eight points at 741 00:50:32.159 --> 00:50:37.440 the most, right, and then whoever plays a quarterback just has to have 742 00:50:37.480 --> 00:50:39.000 a great game. What was the well, I was gonna say it was 743 00:50:39.039 --> 00:50:43.599 the biggest upset. You were just talking about Washington here, one of the 744 00:50:43.639 --> 00:50:47.880 other big big boys here. That's an eighty two Arizona being in Asuka when 745 00:50:47.920 --> 00:50:52.000 as he was gonna go to the Rose Bowl. Eighty six when Arizona bets 746 00:50:52.320 --> 00:50:54.960 But see the eighty six. The difference here is the eighty six Arizona team 747 00:50:55.039 --> 00:50:59.360 was really good, you know, with if you leave all the results the 748 00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:04.800 same and just change their game against UCLA that where they had a like an 749 00:51:04.800 --> 00:51:07.840 eighteen point lead in the second half of Blewett, Arizona goes to that Rose 750 00:51:07.880 --> 00:51:14.760 Bowl, right. So, but the eighty two Arizona team was on its 751 00:51:14.760 --> 00:51:16.119 way. I think they had a lot or was on its way to a 752 00:51:16.159 --> 00:51:20.960 losing record, had they not beat an A su that was coming in getting 753 00:51:20.960 --> 00:51:22.079 ready to go to the Rose Bowl. So that was a huge upset. 754 00:51:22.639 --> 00:51:27.920 Uh. I go back to a nineteen eighty when they beat UCLA. Uh 755 00:51:28.199 --> 00:51:30.639 look how far you're going? Look how far you're going? Well, no, 756 00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:32.440 but let's let's okay. They beat the Oregon here remember in ten years 757 00:51:32.440 --> 00:51:37.039 ago. Well, well there was Oregon in twenty fourteen. Right, that 758 00:51:37.159 --> 00:51:43.400 was a huge upset Oregon in twenty thirteen when he came here with Washington State 759 00:51:43.519 --> 00:51:45.159 one of those Yeah, it's one of the losing, horrible game. And 760 00:51:45.199 --> 00:51:50.320 then and then they beat then they beat Oregon Oregon here there were a couple 761 00:51:50.360 --> 00:51:53.599 of you know, uh, Oklahoma eighty nine. Uh but sure not to 762 00:51:53.639 --> 00:51:58.159 be not as great an upset because that Oklahoma team should not be very good. 763 00:51:58.360 --> 00:52:01.280 Sure, but it was. But there's been some Yeah there the state 764 00:52:01.320 --> 00:52:07.800 game here, Ritrot's first year USC right, remember us he was coming in 765 00:52:07.880 --> 00:52:15.280 Matt Uh what the quarterback name? No, it might not have been Matt 766 00:52:15.679 --> 00:52:20.000 Barkley. Yeah, yeah, okay, Matt Matt Barkley. Remember, and 767 00:52:20.159 --> 00:52:22.239 you know they come in here they ranked ninth in the country. You know, 768 00:52:22.559 --> 00:52:28.119 Ritrot's first year, Matt Matt Scott. And remember the receiver had three 769 00:52:28.199 --> 00:52:35.400 hundred yards. Yet Matt Scott goes out and uh and his receivers uh oh 770 00:52:35.480 --> 00:52:44.199 god, b Hill, what's the name? But they go off here and 771 00:52:44.239 --> 00:52:46.360 they beat it and they beat usc here. You know, not as meaningful, 772 00:52:46.360 --> 00:52:49.840 but it was a big upset because it was Richrot's first year. Yeah, 773 00:52:50.360 --> 00:52:52.599 okay, there's something happening here, you know. Ok So there's been 774 00:52:52.639 --> 00:52:55.519 a lot of them years. When you talk about one that had a huge 775 00:52:55.559 --> 00:53:00.239 impact that you have to go back there watch that game. Okay, sure 776 00:53:00.239 --> 00:53:01.079 today, all right, this was fun, Heath, great, thanks so 777 00:53:01.159 --> 00:53:05.639 much for being here. And we've got Justin Spears is going to come in 778 00:53:05.639 --> 00:53:08.199 here tomorrow. We'll kick some things around in terms of what what what might 779 00:53:08.239 --> 00:53:12.280 be going on on Saturday, So be sure to come back tomorrow. Thanks 780 00:53:12.320 --> 00:53:14.199 for being here. We'll see you tomorrow.