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The countdown is on to fight time. This is Big Fight Weekend. Now

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here is your host, DJ leaves
Well. We have a weekend with world

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title fights in Philadelphia and Las Vegas. We're ready to go over it all

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in the preview mode. We've got
a world champ here, Amanda Serrano,

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a guest with our Dan Rayfield,
and a lot more news and nostalgia.

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It is the Big Fight Weekend preview
podcast. I am the somewhat capable host,

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TJ Reeves. He is our insider. Fight Freaks Unike is his substack.

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Why are you not subscribing Bigfight Weekend
dot com insider as well? Hello

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Dan Rayfield, good to be back
with you in the preview mode in the

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throes of July. How you're feeling
as we rev up for Jeron boots Innis's

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return. Hope they caught him on
the podcast feed. Also Jana Beeck defending

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two of the middleweight crowns in Vegas. We got a lot to go over

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and here from Amanda Serrando. Dan, First off, how you how you

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feeling? Everything is good right now? We got a little quiet going on

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because the guys have been redoing my
back deck in this like three week project.

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That's driving me crazy. So we
got some peace and quiet. Now

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this is a time when I get
to say, better you than me on

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having the bad deck done. I
have been to Las Vegas. Speaking of

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Vegas and the Janebeck fact, I
have been to Vegas and back since you

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and I last talked for the Big
twelve College Football media days. I'm not

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too jet lagged at the moment.
I was staying right in the shadow of

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what's the michelob Ultra Areno what used
to be Mandalay Bays Arena, right where

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Rayfael Cole. You covered like fifty
sixty three and nine tremendous fights in that

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building. The nostalgia was dripping off
of you when I told you I was

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staying right there, right by the
Raiders Allegiant Stadium. It's still the same

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arena. They just changed it from
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Ultra Arena, but it's the same
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The thing about that arena is they
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opened for years and years, and
then when they were bought by the MGM

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Company, they did much fewer fights. And then there was a period of

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time we did like four years or
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and then they've only had just a
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the reason why I think it was
in my mind and yours because you were

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there, is because the Virgil Artis
boat chuck fight that is set for August

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tenth is going to take place in
that building. How about that? And

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by the way, MGM's buying up
everything they got, the ben MGM stuff

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up on the luck soore on the
side of the pyramid. Now the only

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thing they haven't bought is Rayfield at
this point going back and forth to Vegas,

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So Vegas for the JANABEC World title
fight. We'll talk about that in

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the weekend, we recap coming off
the weekend. Are you ready, let's

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do it. We'll hear from Miranda
Serrano in just a bit, but let's

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you know what, Let's start with
Friday night. We've got fight card in

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Nicaragua with Choco La Tito Ramon Choco
La Tito Gonzalez is back, first fight

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in what a year and a half
for so tell me more first before we

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get to Boots Enns and the Janaback
world title fights. About Friday night as

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we released his Thursday into Friday.
Oh, you got a future Hall of

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Famer back in action. One of
the all time greats among smaller weight fighters

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in the history of boxing, not
just of the recent era or the last

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twenty years or thirty years, but
literally since you know men put padded gloves

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on their hands, that is the
level that he's at. He is one

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of the greats in the history of
the sport, particularly when you get to

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the small weight divisions. He also
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the way, since twenty fifteen because
post that, you know, he had

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all of his major fights took place
mostly in the United States. He fought

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in Japan. He's associated with mister
Handa from Teaking boxing, so he had

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one doubt in Japan. During that
period of time. He had one fight

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in Mexico where he shared a card
with his great rival Wan Francisco Estrada,

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But he hasn't fought as you mentioned
since December of twenty twenty two. That's

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when he had the third fight,
the trilogy fight, the rubber match with

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Estrata. He won their first fight
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second fight, that was in twenty
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for two of the belts in the
one hundred and fifteen pound weight class.

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I thought he won the fight.
A lot of people thought he won the

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fight. It was a fantastic fight, but I thought he got he just

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I just thought he won that fight. A lot of guys did. That

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was just I felt bad for him
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they have the third fight and he
loses a majority of decision. Another fight

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that could have either gone, you
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in another really outstanding battle. I
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two guys in those three fights are
just made for each other. And there

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have been the class of those weight
classes for a long time. So he's

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back. This fight's going to be
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contracted at one hundred and seventeen pounds, so not the full bantam weight limit.

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But the point here for Roman Gonzalez
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who was twenty seven to five.
You know, journeyman Ish has fought

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for a world title in the past, but certainly Choclatito, he's got anything

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left, should be the clear favorite
in this fight. But what he wants

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to do is shake off that layoff, come back, you know, put

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a win under his belt in the
new weight class, and then he wants

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to challenge for a bantamweight title.
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accomplishment I think, you know,
because of his his level of popularity is

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certainly in his country, his accomplishments. You know, if he wins this

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fight, he should be able to
get a bandon wait title shot, you

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know, even if he hasn't fought
like all the top contenders. But this

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is a guy that fought everybody,
you know, from one hundred and five

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all the way up to one hundred
and fifteen. So if he looks okay

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and does his job, I think
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he can do that, that will
separate him further from you know, the

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his mentor and the you know,
what most consider the greatest fighter in nic

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Araguan history is Alexis Arguay who won
world titles in three weight classes. Chuck

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Latito has done it at one hundred
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one hundred, twelve hundred and fifteen. He'd be going for a title and

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get another weight class, and he
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so he wants to see if he
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he ends his career, which clearly
doesn't have much time left. So I

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would say to anybody that is a
fan of Roman or hasn't really paid too

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close attention to him, or someone
who you know, watch that fight.

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It's on ESPN Plus. Tatiko Zibala
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but he's got a close relationship with
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Top Rank to acquire the American right, so it'll be on ESPN Plus and

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anytime I can watch Roman Chuck with
Tito Gonzalez, it's a huge pleasure.

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I got a chance to meet him
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I know his team over the years, I've covered numerous of his American fights.

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An all time great, legendary fighter
and a tremendous action fighter throughout his

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career, so and you're right,
how many more times are we going to

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get to see him? You get
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That's Friday night. As we released
the podcast from Nicaragua. ESPN Plus

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will have it here in the US. Check around for that, Okay,

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So that segues into Saturday. We'll
lead with the fight that we've talked a

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lot in the build up about with
Jeron boots In as he now fights David

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Avanzi and Avanezian, best known for
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the fight before Crawford brutalized Errol Spence
that fight in Omahon as a first full

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title defense of the IBF welterweight crown. I looked we're going to handicap this

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first reference again to the US Boxing
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five and a half rounds in Philly, in his hometown. Now, the

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one thing I will say, I
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in the hometown fight distracted, et
cetera, not as good as what they

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would be. I don't know.
I'm on the outside. I don't know

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that that's really going to even be
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is distracted. Does that mean he
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of the third round. I don't
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for a big night from Boots Wells
Fargo Center. Give me, give me

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some more on this. And what's
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over under that we're going to handicap
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it's funny because you say over unders
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loss that he took against Terence Crawford
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in the middle of the sixth round, right, So I was I'm thinking

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in my mind, you know,
if people listen to the interview that I

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had with Boots that was on that's
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standalone in the previous show in the
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a standalone in that interview. I
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to fight Crawford, because Crawford was
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when the Arrow spencefight was over.
Crawford just was not going to fight him,

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certainly not on the kind of notice
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on so he was tripped of the
title and Boots was elevated to the full

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champion. And so I asked him, I said, you know, in

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the back of your mind, are
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hey, I could show up Terrence
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the same opponent earlier than he did, which is the sixth round, which

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is the over runner being five and
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not not a big deal to me. But look, you said, David,

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Evan Aesty is probably most famous for
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I think about Evan Asteyan, besides
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is the guy for better for worse. Maybe Shane Moseley was not at his

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best and he was near done obviously, but he sent Shane Mosey into retirement

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in what at that time was considered
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out to be Shane's final fight.
He scored a twelve round decision that was

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clear cut, not controversial whatsoever,
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division. That was back in twenty
sixteen, so it's quite a number of

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years ago. Uh. And the
time that we go over this stuff,

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I stand corrected by the great ray
Field. Continue. Well, I'm not

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saying you're corrected. I'm just saying
that there's two notable things that you might

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know him for. So no,
it's not just to remember more than the

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other. Yes, very true.
He did beat mostly but Evanescin. You

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know, he may not be the
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and he might have gotten as you
said, brutalized and knocked out badly

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by Crawford. Uh. And he
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He gave and so just to go
through his resume a little bit. He

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gave when Lamon Peterson was the WBA
welterweight champion. This was his fight after

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he defeated Shane Moseley. He you
know, Lamont beat him on a unanimous

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decision, but he gave him a
pretty good fight. That was a showtime

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fight. He went the route with
him. It was competitive. Uh So

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that was a you know, Lamont
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He also has a a got knocked
out also in the sixth round by the

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then undefeated mean Machine Kavalowskis, which
was probably another one of the more notable

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opponents that he has faced Kabalaskas that
time was undefeated, who later also lost

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that fight to Terrence Crawford. He's
got a win where he traveled to the

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other guy's hometown. There was a
very popular action fighter named Kerman Leharaga from

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Spain who was like a European champion
and made, you know, some series

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of exciting fights. But he fought
him twice in his home area in Spain.

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He knocked him out twice, once
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that first round. So those were
big wins for him. He has a

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victory against Josh Kelly, who was
the undefeated fighter who was a big prospect.

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You know, that's that's got a
lot of hype in the UK.

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He knocked him out in the sixth
round when Josh was undefeated. I'm only

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making the point where he shouldn't be
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He has bought some solid opponents and
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you were making an unbiased listing of
your top ten welterweights, he probably is

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right outside the top ten because the
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the talent level because certain guys have
left the way class or retired or what

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have you. But you know,
he's in that like way at the bottom

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of the top ten, maybe into
that top you know a dozen, thirteen,

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fourteen. But he's a credible opponent. The problem is that Ennis is

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so good and we do have the
memory of that Crawford knockout. He has

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won one fight since then against and
you know, a guy. Unfortunately he

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was eleven and fifty five with three
draws, so it doesn't count. You

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know, he knocked him out in
the fourth round of a sixth rounder that

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was back in the December. That
was sort of like a stay busy,

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like just get the rust off kind
of pop. But look, I give

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him credit. He's going to the
other guy's hometown. Remember he wasn't the

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original opponent for this fight. Boots
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Cody Crowley, an undefeated fighter.
They had made the match, the fight

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was done, they had the press
conference and got announced, and then Crowley

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unfortunately this you know, Evanesten's had
plenty of times so it wasn't like it's

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short notice. But back you know, over a month ago, probably maybe

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six weeks or whatever it's been.
Crowley was forced out of the fight because

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he had had retina surgery and his
doctor would not clear he was not medically

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fit to fight, and I I
unfortunately, as I've been hearing, there's

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a good likely that Cody Crowley's career
may be over because of the perfect So

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hopefully that's not the case. But
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the ring from Enis on Saturday.
So have an essien, you know,

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have gloves, will travel. I
just mentioned he went to Spain to fight

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the whoe hometown guy. You know
he fought uh you know he's coming to

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Philadelphia here now to fight jon Nso
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The problem is his game is not
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have that kind of speed, he
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doesn't have that kind of punching power. He doesn't. He just he's a

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good fighter. But as as as
the kids say, TJ, there's levels,

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there is levels, and you may
have given more analysis than the length

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of the fight. I mean,
Boots may get him out of there in

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the first or second round, we
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part of the entry on how long
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will thrive in front of the home
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it. He's a motivated and focused
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a world of trouble. I know
I'll give a good effort based on everything

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I've ever seen of this man fight. That's not the issue. It's that

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in boxing, most of the time, like in all sports in life,

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talent wins out, and Boots is
just a more talented guy. No,

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there's no doubt this guy's electric in
a game will handicap it. More Mattroom

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Boxing Show Saturday night, Philadelphia for
this title defense. It is also it

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is his first fight since the contract
with Matchroom and they're looking to get him

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in you know, higher profile busy. He's never fought this type of fight

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in Philly in terms of a main
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pumped up about that. Matriom has
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have you know, well over ten
twelve, fourteen thousand in the building for

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this fight. Those should be quite
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lasts. Indeed, okay, Amanda
Serrano coming up in advance of her fight

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next weekend. Here where I am
in West Central Florida in Tampa on the

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Jake Paul Mike Perry pay perview.
You'll hear from Amanda with Dan in a

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few moments. First, though,
another world title fight, and this one

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we keep mocking the middleweight division about
how much intrigue what kind of names.

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Well, janebec Alim Canooley has been
one of the top names. He now

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has two of the titles WBO IBF
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Mikhailovitch. I don't know who this
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do non hardcore boxing fan for a
JANABEC title defense? This is the top

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rank show ESPN plus. We alluded
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need a little more ray feel insight
here to get me interested in this.

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I know hardcore fans might know that
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but go ahead, he's not a
well known name. I mean, look,

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this is not taking place in a
big arena. This is taking place

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in like a in the in the
in the Palms casino, which is a

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beautiful casino, and I've actually covered
a fight there before back in the day.

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But this is going to take place
in a room that's probably doesn't hold

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two thousand people, not a big
place at all. Mkalovich, you know

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he's twenty, want to know,
so he does have an undefeated record.

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He is Russian born, but he
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as a child and he's grown up
and lives in New Zealand. He comes

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into this fight. He asked,
well, why why is he fighting this

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dude? Because as we talked about, the middleweight division a is pretty terrible

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overall, and so there's not a
lot It's not like he's ducking a guy

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and he's gonna fight this dude.
They went listen, nothing would make top

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rank happier than putting him in a
real fight. Top Rank spends a lot

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of money on the Janebek. They're
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They'll be the first to tell you
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with a little bit more exposure and
some big knockouts and that sort of thing,

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and maybe some talent that comes into
the division, they can find a

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bigger fight for him. But this
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so they're like, we might as
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So that does take care of that, you know, because Janetbeg does have

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the WBO and the IBF title,
so this will at least take care of

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a mandatory. Because that guy is, you know, highly rated. I'm

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not really quite sure why he does
not have a big yeah, but we've

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seen this. What is it?
Your guy, William Skull is highly did

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one division up by the IVF at
super middleweight. So yeah, exactly one

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division up right, one said super
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Again, I've said this before about
lots of dirividers. Just because he's never

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fought a top name or beaten a
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Maybe he just has not the opportunity. But his record in particular is just

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like nobody's of nobody. Who's the
twenty guy as you like to say,

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who's the twenty one in the twenty
one to zero and you don't recognize any

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of the names, and that's not
good TJ. To call these guys' names

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on a milk carton would be an
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listed on the us LAMB when we
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just I'm looking at the record,
TJ. There's there's not anybody recognizable,

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and a lot of the guys he's
fought, our guys would like just pretty

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pretty poor records. So right,
I mean, but but again, it

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doesn't mean he's no good. But
Janet a big puncher. We've seen that

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before from him. He's like,
you know, anesthetized guys. We saw

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what he did against when he just
annihilated Gultieri. We saw what he did

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against Bentley, against Danny Dingham,
who I don't know if he's awaken up

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from that knockout yet. Yeah,
I mean, he took out Stephen Butler

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in two rounds. I mean he's
been just destroying guys, but guys who

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are solid. Dentley solid, Dignum
solid, Butler's solid. Gultieri was undefeted

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but not so solid. Uh,
you know, And so he's trying to

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get He's trying to get a real
a real big fight. But in the

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meantime, he's got to do this
now. Top rank would love to.

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I actually asked some people at the
company, you know, because they're kind

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of spinning their wheels with Jannebeck to
some degree. You know, what are

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you gonna do with him? No? One at one point fifty four is

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a big enough name or a top
top guy where you could maybe make something

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sexy to have that person come up. There's nothing for him at one sixty

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eight. There's no title opportunity at
one sixty eight because Canelos on dispute,

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he has got all the belts,
so he's kind of blocked from that ton

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of path. So is there somebody
in the midday the division now if they

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can get their way, they would
love to match him up with a Damas

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and another unification to unify the three
belts. Now right, that's you know,

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he's with PBC a Damas, you
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To me? That intrigues me.
But whether that can happen is that

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from like we're on a zoom is
like that is the distance of that happening

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from me to you right now in
Virginia to Florida or not? That I

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actually think, based on the way
things are going right now in the business,

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that it's not impossible because PBC is
not playing right now from a position

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of strength. It's not to knock
PBC. They're dealing with their own issues.

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They don't have a robust broadcaster.
They don't have a guaranteed ten dates

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for tens of millions of dollars from
showtime. That doesn't exist anymore. So

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they're trying to, you know,
find their way, and I hope they

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do well. And they're putting on
their pay per views and they're having some

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success with that, and they've got
a non pay per view coming in August.

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But they have a lot of guys
with a lot of talent, a

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lot of titles. They got to
keep them busy. So if they're working

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with top rank at least at the
moment, to try to finalize a fight

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between Gervanta Davis and Lomachenko, for
example, it would strike me that making

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a fight between Jenebec and Adamas is
way less complicated, way less costly.

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A minute, wait a minute,
do I sense putting something together smart Davis

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and Lomachenko fight in the main event
of a pay per view and Janebec and

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Carlos Adamis fight in a co feature
for three of the middleweight belts call us

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crazy. I'm gonna fight more value
for a pay per view if you were

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to do that, But who knows. The point is this, That fight,

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I believe is possible that they could
make if he is successful on Saturday.

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But for that particular card, it's
budgetarily, it's probably too much of

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a heavy lift for what they're going
to earn, what they would be required

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to make for that kind of fight. But Jane Bec and the Damas would

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be required back is what you're saying, correct, So, but that does

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not mean that they can't make it
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or do it on a Prime card
or on one of the prime pay per

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views or whatever. The point is, I believe that both companies have really

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nowhere to go with either guy,
and at least they're talking about a much

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bigger fight, so I think it's
possible. First things first, let's see

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how Janebec looks. And again I'm
looking at his record. He was a

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little more active up until I mean, he hasn't had a fight since October

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of last year, but before that, he had fought in May, before

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that, the previous November, before
that, the previous May, so he

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had had several fights leading up to
last October, but now this is the

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first time that we've seen him basically
in nine months. Let's see what he

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looks like in that main event and
what happens in the middleweight division for janebec

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After that, Raymond Murataiya is in
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former world champions a lightweight fight.
We'll also handicap this fight as well on

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the bet Us show. Give me
a little bit on that and anything else

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from this Top Rank card Saturday Night
that you like well. Maritaya has been

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for the last little bit one of
the top younger fighters coming up for Top

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Rank. He is undefeated twenty zho
with sixteen knockouts. He's ready to fight

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in a bigger fight. He is
shining when he's fought the better opposition.

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Sometimes he's been a little inconsistent,
but still winning handily against the guys that

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are maybe not as sharp or as
good fights out of the Robert Carcia is

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stable, so we know he gets
great sparring and he's got obviously you know

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the background of that gym and what
Robert brings to the table, and he's

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been calling for a bigger fire remember
he was offered as an opponent as one

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of the various opponents that was offered
to Tiafimo Lopez before he had his most

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recent fight. Steve Klagett was wound
up with the fight where Tai would have

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loved to have that fight, he
was not selected. So he keeps going

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and the Dave. Finally they've matched
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As you mentioned, Tevin Farmer was
a champion in the one hundred and thirty

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pound way class, but he's now
fighting in the lightweight division. He's had

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his last you know, three fights
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This will be his spourts fight over
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been the full hundred thirty five pounds. Actually he was a pound over that

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weight. But he hasn't been the
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period of time from where he at
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before he lost it, he had
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going. He was fighting all the
time and had a whole series of fights

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quickly. He lost at the Joseph
Diaz in twenty twenty and then he didn't

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fight until middle of twenty twenty three, but when he came back in the

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middle of twenty twenty three, he
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his fourth fight in about uh in
about uh thirteen months, I guess,

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so he has been somewhat active,
even though uh you know, the last

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fight was a first roun knockout.
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Now he again he's fighting in new
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Farmer brings to the table is usually
a good chin, good skills, good

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speed, good reflexes, good IQ. I mean, he does a lot

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of things. He's a real tricky
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He's a south pop and uh,
you know, I'm not sure how

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he'll do with the with the brute
force of a Maretiah, but Tevin Farmer

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can definitely handle himself. And uh, you know, I'm encouraged if you

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if you want to see a fight
that's maybe more competitive then you might have

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thought before Farmer had a handful of
fights. He's not coming off a crazy

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long layup. He just fought in
March, right, so he got that

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first round Knockout's only been a few
months on Grant he's not fighting the top

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opponents. But yeah, he's been
a good professional and he can like I

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said, he can handle himself.
So this is what I believe to be

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a fight in terms of Martaya where
if he wins this fight, I do

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think that it's not out of the
realm of possibility that maybe in his next

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fight he can be fighting for a
belt. Maybe two fights from now he's

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fighting for a belt. He's right
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You just got to keep his h
keep his you know, his wins

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coming, and keep the chains moving
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But uh, it's gonna be good
to see him stepping up against you know,

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a reputable, solid quality opponent like
Farmer. Okay, again, ESPN

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Plus will have this on Saturday night, and here's hoping again that at least

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for the main events that we get
it somewhat staggered for the match Room main

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event within US and the Janabec main
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Uh So we look forward to both
of those fight cards that will be taking

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place on SAD today and that leads
us in to jan with a world champ

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who will be in action, not
this weekend. But next weekend, on

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July the twentieth, Amanda Serrano is
back in the co feature fight for the

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Jake Paul Mike Perry pay perview.
You do not have to wait until next

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week fight week to hear from Amanda
Serrano, because here she is right now

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on the big fight we can preview. Well, it's my great pleasure to

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welcome back to our podcast this week. It is none other than the unified

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featherweight champion, the future Hall of
Famer, one of the greatest women boxers

404
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:32,799
to ever live, Amanda Serrano.
How's that for an introduction? Amazing?

405
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,119
I was like, fuck, keep
going, keep going now, that's sure.

406
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,319
You gave me cusbumps. Thank you
so much for great to talk to

407
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,680
you again. We're here to talk
about your fight. You've got a fight

408
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,119
coming up against Stevie Morgan. It's
going to take place on July twentieth on

409
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:49,559
the de Zone pay per view card
that also include Jake Paul against Mike Perry

410
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:55,000
taking place in Tampa, Florida.
And uh, before we get into that

411
00:24:55,079 --> 00:24:57,319
fight and all the stuff around how
it came about and everything that's going on,

412
00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,359
I actually wanted to start off by
going back to March. Maybe not

413
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:04,160
the fondest memory for you, Amanda, but as you know, you were

414
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:10,599
supposed to defend those featherweight titles against
Nina Menke, a good opponent. Main

415
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:15,880
event. You're San Juan, Puerto
Rico homecoming. Jake Paul, you know,

416
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,519
said led a man to have the
spotlight. He was going to be

417
00:25:18,559 --> 00:25:22,400
in your co feature. There's like
eighteen thousand people in the arena. They're

418
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,119
going crazy. They're there for Jake, but they're really there for you mostly,

419
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:30,359
it seemed to me anyway. Felix
Trinidad is on hand, you know,

420
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:34,000
one of the all time greats.
And then the news gets broken right

421
00:25:34,039 --> 00:25:37,839
after Jake wins his fight in the
ring that you are not going to be

422
00:25:37,839 --> 00:25:41,920
able to have your fight because you
had gotten some kind of chemical in your

423
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:47,039
eye from a previous hair treatment,
et cetera. And it was very heartbreaking

424
00:25:47,039 --> 00:25:48,839
to see you and your opponent,
you know, come out and not be

425
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,279
able to do the fight. I
know everybody was disappointed, the fans,

426
00:25:52,319 --> 00:25:56,920
obviously, the two athletes. Can
you just describe him what that was like.

427
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,599
I mean, it's now passed and
thankful, everything is good, but

428
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,200
I was I've never seen anything like
that before. Yeah, and I don't

429
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,359
have I but this is boxing.
Stuff like that happens. Obviously, you

430
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:10,440
saw what happened with Tyson. We
moved it back to November because he has

431
00:26:10,559 --> 00:26:15,319
also in his stomach, but that's
what happens. Definitely heartbreaking. That was

432
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:21,200
my homecoming. It was really sad, but I can't. I went to

433
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,359
the arena ready to fight. I
was, I was game. I was

434
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,440
like, I don't care, I
was. The doctor just didn't allow me

435
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,880
to fight. I wanted to fight
in front of my people. I wanted

436
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:36,440
to defend my title successfully against Nina. You know, lucky Lena Lina,

437
00:26:36,559 --> 00:26:40,599
she got paid in food for that
fight without getting pushing the face by me,

438
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,880
So lucky I didn't. I didn't
get paid anything. You know,

439
00:26:44,079 --> 00:26:48,480
we lost a lot of money,
time and just the opportunity for that.

440
00:26:48,559 --> 00:26:52,119
But I'm hoping my team, Jake
and the KISA, they said that they

441
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,680
will give me the opportunity to get
again, and and I believe in them

442
00:26:55,720 --> 00:27:00,240
and they will. But you know, things happen for a reason. And

443
00:27:00,279 --> 00:27:04,079
now we hear twenty for July twentieth. So July twentieth, as you mentioned

444
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:08,799
about earlier about Tyson, and Jake
getting postponed until November. You and Katie

445
00:27:08,839 --> 00:27:14,079
Taylor are supposed to have your rematch
on that same big card Netflix at and

446
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,559
T Stadium was a huge event.
You know it's a huge boxing event when

447
00:27:17,599 --> 00:27:22,240
you watch mainstream program Saturday Night Live, CNN, whatever it is, and

448
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:26,039
they're talking about that event, so
you know that it's crossed over. And

449
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,839
unfortunately, as you said, Tyson, he comes down with the ulcer a

450
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,440
flare up and it has to be
postponed. And you could have done what

451
00:27:33,519 --> 00:27:37,000
Tyson's gonna do because he's the one
that's trying to get better. He's not

452
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:41,799
going to fight until November. Katie
Taylor, she's gonna lay off until November.

453
00:27:41,319 --> 00:27:45,960
Jake is doing this fight with Mike
Perry. He's gambling the Tyson fight,

454
00:27:45,039 --> 00:27:48,759
and you also are gambling your rematch
with Katie Taylor. Can you tell

455
00:27:48,799 --> 00:27:52,839
me why you decided to do this
fight and not just do what Katie did

456
00:27:52,839 --> 00:27:56,119
in layoff until such time as your
rematch would take place at such a highly

457
00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,240
anticipated bout. Yeah, well,
I need it to fight because my last

458
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,839
fight, if we were scheduled to
November, it was going to be over

459
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,079
a year that I haven't four.
Obviously, I trained for the March second

460
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:14,400
but didn't fight. But plus I
didn't Katie is bringing me up another division,

461
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:18,160
so I'm going up three divisions.
So we took this fight because I

462
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:22,920
wanted to be able to to to
feel to test my power and my endurance

463
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:29,960
at lightweight before I fighting. And
well it's not even light way. Yeah,

464
00:28:30,039 --> 00:28:34,079
you see Junior balls away and that's
a whole nother division. I thought

465
00:28:34,079 --> 00:28:37,480
that once and I did it just
to make history, and after that I

466
00:28:37,519 --> 00:28:41,240
said I wouldn't do it again.
But obviously Katie is the champion and that

467
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,640
that division, so she wants me
to fight and go up there, so

468
00:28:45,799 --> 00:28:52,000
we're doing that. But I needed
this fight July twentieth because I needed to

469
00:28:52,599 --> 00:28:56,759
get in there. I need to
get my the that the ring ros.

470
00:28:56,759 --> 00:29:00,519
But I needed to go in there
to make sure that I feel comfortable at

471
00:29:00,559 --> 00:29:06,680
what forty. You know it is
a high intervision. I just want to

472
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:07,960
feel good. I want to when
I go in there with Katie Taylor.

473
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,160
I want no excuses. I just
want to go out there and just go

474
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:15,480
out there and get my get my
win. So do you think it's then

475
00:29:15,599 --> 00:29:18,680
better for you that you're gonna fight, and she's gonna lay off because she's

476
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,400
gonna have been off for a while
also since her fights with Chantel Cameron.

477
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,720
I mean, that's that's her business. I mean, she couldn't had me.

478
00:29:26,759 --> 00:29:30,119
I don't know. Her team probably
could have got her a fight too,

479
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,759
but I just wanted to feel.
I don't know, they probably couldn't

480
00:29:33,799 --> 00:29:37,559
afford it. But my team,
I have an amazing team. MV Repete,

481
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:42,119
Jake and Akisa made sure that that
I'm fighting July twentieth. They had

482
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:47,279
that date. My mind was set
on that day, and yeah, that's

483
00:29:47,279 --> 00:29:52,119
where we're fighting July twentieth against tough
Stevie Morgan, who was a bigger girl

484
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:56,319
than Katie Taylor. Obviously she's not
Katie Taylor. She's a different opponent and

485
00:29:56,359 --> 00:30:00,799
I'm not thinking of Katie Taylor for
this, but I'm training for Stevie Morgan

486
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:06,480
because she is a taller and bigger
fighter and obviously she got punching power with

487
00:30:06,599 --> 00:30:11,480
a fourteen and one thirteen knockouts,
so it's different that came to. So

488
00:30:11,519 --> 00:30:12,880
that's I wanted to ask you about
her. First of all, she like

489
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,799
you said, she's fourteen and one
with thirteen knockouts. You're fighting in her

490
00:30:15,839 --> 00:30:19,599
hometown, she's from Tampa. But
I had looked at her record. There's

491
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,160
really I mean all due respect to
the number of knockouts that she has,

492
00:30:23,559 --> 00:30:26,839
she there's really not much on her
record that you would consider recognizable. A

493
00:30:26,839 --> 00:30:32,599
lot of those knockouts are quick KO
one knockouts against very obscure, unknown opponents

494
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,440
in Colombia for that matter, not
a lot of video of her. I

495
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,839
actually looked on YouTube, knowing that
you and I were going to be talking

496
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,039
about her. You can't really find
much of anything. What do you know

497
00:30:41,079 --> 00:30:42,920
about her other than when you other
than what you mentioned about when you just

498
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:47,759
look at the record, maybe like
look up box record something. Listen,

499
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:49,759
no matter why, she's still a
big girl, she's still a taller,

500
00:30:49,839 --> 00:30:52,880
bigger girl. You know, anytime
I step out of my comfort zone,

501
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,680
out of featherweight, I'm taking risk, and I'm definitely taking a risk against

502
00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:02,759
Stevie Morgan. Listen what that named
sledsh hammer that tells you all she has

503
00:31:02,839 --> 00:31:06,000
powers, likes to fight, She's
gonna come to fight, and so do

504
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,759
I. Obviously I have more experience
than her. I believe my power is

505
00:31:08,799 --> 00:31:15,519
just a little more more harder than
hers. But yes, she's she's gonna

506
00:31:15,519 --> 00:31:19,000
come to fight, and she's gonna
come to to make sure people remember who

507
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,960
Stevin Morgan is. And you figure, I mean, you're you're a great

508
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,400
puncher. If you just got to
look at your knockout record and you've done

509
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,680
it against a lot of more well
known opposition in a variety of different weight

510
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:32,480
divisions, you just figure that you're
do you figure that your punching power will

511
00:31:32,519 --> 00:31:37,000
translate once again into the one forty
weight class. Yeah, one hundred percent.

512
00:31:37,359 --> 00:31:40,559
I've heard. I think I've heard
every opponent I've faced. Obviously,

513
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,720
these women were tough no matter who
you going there, We're tough. They

514
00:31:44,839 --> 00:31:47,119
know how to hold, they know
how to run, they know how to

515
00:31:47,319 --> 00:31:52,240
do to make it the distance to
survive. So but I one nd percent

516
00:31:52,319 --> 00:31:56,440
I feel strong. I feel I
always felt strong no matter what weight.

517
00:31:56,079 --> 00:32:00,599
I've heard when I fought uh Reinoso, I one for and I won the

518
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,839
title there. I've heard her a
couple of times, but I thought Miriam

519
00:32:02,839 --> 00:32:07,680
Pusierres, which I thought at the
Family Arena a couple of years ago,

520
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,599
I heard her and became really good
friends, and she told me she said,

521
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:15,599
Jesus Christ, you hit so hard, and that day she weighed one

522
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,200
hundred and I'm sixty pounds and I
weighed one hundred and thirty four pounds.

523
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,599
So my power comes with me wherever
I go. It's real power. Now

524
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,880
when you're when you're defending your featherweight
titles, and we've discussed this, you've

525
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:30,799
made a thing about it that as
champion, you wanted to fight the same

526
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:35,359
under the same rules as the men's
boxing title fights, which meant twelve round

527
00:32:35,359 --> 00:32:39,079
title fights three minute rounds. Katie, Obviously, as the champion, she's

528
00:32:39,079 --> 00:32:43,400
dictating certain aspects. So it's going
to be a ten round fight, it's

529
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,559
going to be two minute rounds.
But for this in between fight, if

530
00:32:45,559 --> 00:32:47,960
you will, as you're saying,
you're getting used to one forty, it's

531
00:32:49,039 --> 00:32:52,400
a it's a non title fight,
it's two minutes. What do you what

532
00:32:52,519 --> 00:32:54,720
you're feeling about sort of going back
and forth between having a fight that's two

533
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:59,160
minute round fight. Your previous fights
were three minute rounds. That's like a

534
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:00,759
you as the athlete, I have
to imagine you have to make an adjustment

535
00:33:00,799 --> 00:33:04,799
for that when you're getting ready.
Yeah, no, all the time.

536
00:33:04,839 --> 00:33:07,759
But actually this fight. We chose
to be ten too, because we're getting

537
00:33:07,839 --> 00:33:10,960
ready for the Katie tail To fight. I didn't want to keep going back

538
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:15,640
and forth having to adjust myself but
having to hold back a little bit with

539
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:21,319
the three minutes in twelve round.
So we wanted the tools just the high

540
00:33:21,359 --> 00:33:25,000
case fight, and that's what we're
training for for. You know, me,

541
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:29,920
my bunchets and bungetes for every second
and every minute, every round and

542
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,000
if it goes ten rounds, which
I don't know it will go, but

543
00:33:32,119 --> 00:33:36,480
if it goes ten rounds, I'll
be ready for action, for war for

544
00:33:36,559 --> 00:33:38,359
all those seconds and minutes. Well, I mean, I know you've been

545
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,400
a professional for a long time,
You've got so much experience, and I

546
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,759
know you're going to focus on the
opponent that's in front of you, But

547
00:33:44,799 --> 00:33:49,160
I have to imagine you can't really
go through with that fight not knowing in

548
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,759
the back of your mind that there's
this huge fight, this rematch that everybody's

549
00:33:52,759 --> 00:33:54,839
wanted to see. That I know
that you and Katie have both wanted.

550
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:59,200
There's a tremendous amount of money for
both of you ladies on the line,

551
00:33:59,279 --> 00:34:01,920
certainly a lot more then you're gonna
make against Stevie Morgan. How do you

552
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:07,759
prevent yourself from not looking ahead for
this human not only the big nature of

553
00:34:07,799 --> 00:34:09,760
the match, but just the whole
hoopla that's gonna be around it because of

554
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:14,920
the fact that it's on the same
card with Tyson and Jake Paul and at

555
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,920
one of the great stadiums in the
United States and the world for that matter.

556
00:34:17,599 --> 00:34:22,280
And to keep your vision and your
foot your focus on the opponent that

557
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,039
you got to fight coming up on
July twentieth. Listen, Dan, you

558
00:34:25,119 --> 00:34:29,760
know I've been in this game for
a little too long fifteen years to know

559
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,480
that's how upset happens when you focus
on the next pace. So I'll focus

560
00:34:32,519 --> 00:34:36,519
on Stevie Morgan, and I just
have to go and make sure that I

561
00:34:36,599 --> 00:34:39,880
shake her out early so I'm healthy
enough for the Katie Tailor fight. But

562
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:45,440
no disrespect to Steve you Morgan,
my concentration is one hundred percent on her

563
00:34:45,559 --> 00:34:50,639
right now, and then after July
twenty of July twenty first, then we

564
00:34:50,679 --> 00:34:52,960
can think and talk about Katie Tailor. Well, I have one more question

565
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,960
for you then, and you just
brought up the fact, as you said,

566
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:59,239
you've been around what fifteen years doing
this as a pro as a profession.

567
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,719
As a profession. You're thirty five
years old, You've had a decorated

568
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:07,719
career, been considered the pound for
pound number one, You've won the titles

569
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:12,440
and for women a record seven different
weight divisions. You've got this huge rematch

570
00:35:12,559 --> 00:35:14,880
with Katie, which is sort of
like going to be I would think,

571
00:35:15,079 --> 00:35:19,320
you know, even bigger maybe than
the first fight, just given the context

572
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,679
of the card it's on with Tyson
and Jake. And so my question is

573
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:27,000
how much longer do you want to
do this because you've also gotten to a

574
00:35:27,039 --> 00:35:30,280
point where you're making great money also
as opposed to the early days when you

575
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:35,199
were making shit. Yeah, it's
like thirteen years so for great people to

576
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,599
come into my career, mean Nikisa
and Jake Paul, I mean, you

577
00:35:38,599 --> 00:35:44,000
know, thirteen long years. But
now I'm having fun. But you know

578
00:35:44,079 --> 00:35:46,559
what I think, after the Katie
Taylor fight, maybe I'll have one more

579
00:35:46,599 --> 00:35:51,960
fight and then the trilogy, because
you know it's part of the contract.

580
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,239
Once I bet here she wants those
boats back. You do have a rematch

581
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:58,039
clause right in that for the for
the rematch, the rematch for the rematch,

582
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,199
Yes, yeah, so you know, her team kept talking about the

583
00:36:01,199 --> 00:36:07,199
trilogy since the first fight, So
I mean, yeah, I wanted to

584
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,800
retire actually at thirty five, but
that then it happened due to COVID and

585
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:15,239
due to everything, I pushed it
back. But I honestly I feel good

586
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:22,880
this camp. I'm training defferitely like
the last couple of training camps. It's

587
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:28,280
all about training smarter, not harder, so I can as I can continue

588
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:32,960
to be healthy for future fights,
and we're taking that in and I'm gonna

589
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,440
be ready for maybe for a year
more. And yeah, Jeordia said,

590
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:42,519
he says two more fights, so
it's up to him. Anyways, maybe

591
00:36:42,559 --> 00:36:46,239
it's the Katie Taylor trilogy and maybebe
it's a farewell in Puerto Rico. Oh

592
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:50,800
yes, yes, that sounds like
a plan. That sounds like a plan.

593
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,480
Well the plan begins, I guess
July twentieth with your assignment against Stevie

594
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,639
Morgan. Amanda. I wish you
the best of luck in the fight.

595
00:36:57,679 --> 00:37:00,519
Thank you very much for your time
and I'll look forward to it to checking

596
00:37:00,559 --> 00:37:02,719
out that pay per view. Yes, thank you so much, and it's

597
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:07,199
gonna be an amazing night to addle
Arena get your ticket second Messa dot com

598
00:37:07,199 --> 00:37:12,159
and catch it on the Zone pay
per view and then I'll see you in

599
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,760
Arlington, Texas in November for the
big one. Yes, yes there all

600
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:21,119
right, Amana, thank you so
much alone, Thank you to having everyone.

601
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:27,159
Thank you good stuff with Amanda,
who is obviously motivated. You've got

602
00:37:27,199 --> 00:37:30,719
the Katie Taylor fight looming. It
is. It is kind of different.

603
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,199
I mean, Jake Paul wanted to
keep the date. Amanda wanted to fight

604
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:36,760
as you were going over. She
had the mishap in March where she couldn't

605
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,039
headline in Puerto Rico. Wanted to
fight here and not have to just simply

606
00:37:40,039 --> 00:37:44,679
be idle for much of this year
until fighting Katie Taylor. So she's back

607
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,079
in the ring. I joke with
you again that I talked to a Tampa

608
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:52,239
a boxing person that really doesn't know
anything about that, that's that knows boxing

609
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:53,960
in this area, et cetera,
and did not know. And we're trying

610
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:59,639
to get educated more on this opponent, Stevie the Hammer Morgan. And as

611
00:37:59,639 --> 00:38:02,719
you said, she's primarily fought anyway
like outside the United States, so I

612
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:06,719
don't know how much of a challenge
that'll be. But I'm interested as we

613
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,920
get to next week because it's coming
here to my area to be back around

614
00:38:09,119 --> 00:38:13,639
Amanda, because as you heard in
that conversation, she's very personable, she's

615
00:38:13,639 --> 00:38:17,719
well spoken, tremendous arc to her
career, and right and right now she

616
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,840
is at a at a financial level
that's outstanding. So I'm eager to be

617
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:24,920
around her and we'll see what what
this looks like next week. Any final

618
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,840
wrap up thought after talking to her, I mean just that you know,

619
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,239
she's not defending she's the featherweight champion, she's not defending your titles. And

620
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,880
we spoke about that because the fight
with Katie Taylors at one hundred and forty

621
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,320
pounds for the undisputed title. So
her perspective was to let me take this

622
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:42,039
fight in that weight class. She's
fought there but only I think once before

623
00:38:42,159 --> 00:38:45,639
years ago, and and just see
how I feel at the wait and go

624
00:38:45,679 --> 00:38:47,760
there and get a couple around,
you know, however many rounds it takes.

625
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:52,559
You know, we'll see if Morgan
can stand up to her. I

626
00:38:52,639 --> 00:38:53,920
kind of tend to doubt it,
but we'll see. But like you said,

627
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:58,039
it's good to see her back,
and you know, it's a when

628
00:38:58,079 --> 00:39:00,079
when Jake Paul fights and Amanda's on
the under car, it reminds me of

629
00:39:00,199 --> 00:39:04,840
like the period of time where you'd
see Gnati Glovekin in the main event and

630
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,920
Chockolateito Gonzalez was in the co feature, like it was like Batman and Robin,

631
00:39:07,119 --> 00:39:10,400
And right now, Jake Paul and
Amanda's run are almost like you know,

632
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,639
today's version of Batman and Robin because
they've they compliment each other on their

633
00:39:14,639 --> 00:39:17,400
shows and they make for interesting fights. All right, And again that is

634
00:39:17,599 --> 00:39:22,320
next weekend, so we'll see what
happens uh with that. Okay, So

635
00:39:22,639 --> 00:39:27,320
let's get to some news and let's
get to some nostalgia. You did talk

636
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:31,199
on our recap podcast off the weekend
last weekend that Chris Ubank Junior's name has

637
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:35,960
been kicked around, not that it's
definite, but been kicked around as a

638
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:40,559
possible September opponent for Canelo Alvarez.
Update, he has signed with a promoter.

639
00:39:40,679 --> 00:39:45,440
Give us the details and what,
if anything does this do to enhance

640
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,480
the chance that he might be in
front of Canelo. So when I reported

641
00:39:49,559 --> 00:39:52,800
back, you know, hower logo
was several days ago. Anyway, that

642
00:39:53,079 --> 00:39:57,599
he was one of the candidates that
was, you know, in the running

643
00:39:57,639 --> 00:40:00,920
for the Canelo fight. It was
it was basically come down to a U

644
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:07,400
Bank junior or Edgar Berlanga, and
he had not There had been no announcement

645
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,480
that he had signed with boxer.
But in my story that I wrote,

646
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:15,599
what I wrote was that Ben Shalom
from Boxer was handling those conversations. Obviously

647
00:40:15,599 --> 00:40:17,800
they don't know each other. You
Bank has fought on boxer cards before.

648
00:40:19,119 --> 00:40:21,679
When he fought the two fights with
Liam Smith, Boxer was involved as a

649
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,199
promoter, and there's been at least
in one other fight that that you Bank

650
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,719
has had that Boxer has been involved
with. They just didn't have a long

651
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,679
term or any kind of multi fight
agreement with each other. Now they do.

652
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:35,239
He's split with Washerman Boxing, that's
the Cali and Nissi Sarerland that that

653
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:39,639
that group, and uh, he's
gonna have this this longer term agreement with

654
00:40:39,679 --> 00:40:44,519
boxer. Now the question is doesn't
lead to a Canelo fight. I'm under

655
00:40:44,559 --> 00:40:47,199
the impression for a lot of different
reasons that you Bank is not going to

656
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:51,480
get that fight, that it's gonna
probably be Edgar Berlanga. I'm not I

657
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:55,440
don't know that for sure, but
that is my strong inclination based on everything

658
00:40:55,480 --> 00:41:00,320
I keep hearing from. Lots of
different people were involved in some capacity in

659
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,840
these in this event, so you
know, you Bank's I guess it's good

660
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:06,000
for him to put his name out
there to be associated with that, but

661
00:41:06,079 --> 00:41:08,679
most likely he's going to wind up
having you know, fights in the UK.

662
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:12,960
Now, Eddie Hearn had come out
and said that they had inquired with

663
00:41:13,079 --> 00:41:15,760
matt you know, Mattrium about possibly
signing him because they didn't know he was

664
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:20,599
a free agent. And what he
told the outfit seconds out uh one of

665
00:41:20,639 --> 00:41:22,800
the websites out there that that does
a good job covering boxing. That Frank

666
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:27,280
Smith, who's his right hand man, the CEO of Mattrium, that that

667
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:31,639
the conversation ran through Frank, and
that Eddie recounted saying, look, we

668
00:41:31,679 --> 00:41:36,239
wanted to give our deal that we
offer. We wanted to give you Bank

669
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,440
one fight and then go into a
Connor Ben fight. They wanted to gimme

670
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:44,760
so called gimme fights and then the
counter and they just couldn't I get it

671
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,280
get it done. And I guess
a boxer agreed to that sort of scenario.

672
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,480
And you know you talk about Connor
benwell, he's suspended, but he

673
00:41:51,559 --> 00:41:55,199
is suspended, but they're working through
that and most likely he's going to be

674
00:41:55,239 --> 00:42:00,480
free to come back sometime probably in
March ish and be licensed in the UK.

675
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,119
He'll have sat out, he'll have
taken the punishment, he'll have not

676
00:42:04,159 --> 00:42:07,639
fought in the UK, and they'll
finally do you know, a settlement if

677
00:42:07,679 --> 00:42:10,440
you will, And and that fight
could probably get made sometime next year,

678
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:15,119
and that will be an absolute behemoth. He'll make a lot a lot of

679
00:42:15,119 --> 00:42:17,400
money in that fight, you bank
if he keeps winning. And it's a

680
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:22,000
less dangerous fight in terms of win
or loss certainly than the Canelo fight.

681
00:42:22,079 --> 00:42:24,480
Oh yeah, And I also happen
to think that the that the Canelo people,

682
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:29,159
you know, if you're going to
negotiate with Berlanga, you can't just

683
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:30,360
do that. You gotta have somebody
else as a backup, so you have

684
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:36,880
some leguage in the negotiation. So
they went through the process, or they're

685
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:38,599
in the process of going through the
process, if you will. But I

686
00:42:39,119 --> 00:42:43,840
strongly believe that sometime in the next
week or so, we'll see an announcement

687
00:42:44,079 --> 00:42:47,039
probably that Canelo is fighting Berlanga.
I mean, when you're in the process,

688
00:42:47,119 --> 00:42:51,199
do you do anything other than go
through the process. I'm just trying,

689
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:52,559
you know you. I wouldn't you
often get on me. I just

690
00:42:52,639 --> 00:42:55,840
have to take my opportunities when they
come. If you're in the process,

691
00:42:57,039 --> 00:42:59,800
then you are going through the process. Let me say this about going through

692
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,519
that before you get to that.
I wouldn't. I wouldn't like swear in

693
00:43:01,599 --> 00:43:07,360
my kid that he's fighting Berlanga.
You want to have something. Here's my

694
00:43:07,559 --> 00:43:10,679
thing. We understood why the John
Ryder fight happened, Return to Mexico,

695
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:16,800
et cetera. British fighter Chris Ubank
Junior does nothing for anybody in America if

696
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:21,079
you're a hardcore fight fan, Yeah, you know that name. At least

697
00:43:21,159 --> 00:43:24,639
Berlanga has a little more because you've
seen him on a ESPN. You know

698
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:29,119
more about him. That's the one
that makes sense. Then again, it's

699
00:43:29,159 --> 00:43:31,840
boxing. But I also think one
of the reasons that that you Bank was

700
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:37,880
was broached as a possibility was because
from the business side of things, he

701
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:42,320
would bring some pay per view in
the UK. Yeah. Now, obviously

702
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,639
the fight would be on at a
at a four time. That's what we

703
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:46,880
get. You know, they'll be
late at night, two in the morning,

704
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:50,639
whatever the case may be, So
it's not that conducive to it,

705
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:54,320
but there'd be something there. And
you know, he's not fighting Benavide's who.

706
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:58,119
As I've made the point, even
if he decided something he wanted to

707
00:43:58,119 --> 00:44:00,760
fight David, David will probably not
be avail for that September tiper of anyway,

708
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:05,679
because my injuries is dealing with You
spelled that out right. You basically

709
00:44:05,679 --> 00:44:07,880
said it an algo and said it's
not happening for September because he's got a

710
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:13,119
ligament injury in one hand and the
other hand's hurt too. So no,

711
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:15,800
but me Cano hasn't shown any when
he desired to fight him anyway, even

712
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:19,679
if he suddenly did, it couldn't
happen in September. It is the ball

713
00:44:19,679 --> 00:44:22,760
I'm making, So it'll it'll probably
be Berlanga and everybody's gonna have to fucking

714
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,400
deal with it. That's the end
of the story. Let's see, And

715
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:29,960
we should know something about that soon
enough, because it's mid September. For

716
00:44:30,039 --> 00:44:37,000
whomever Canelo's opponent will be okay,
So the purse bid for Emanuel navarat oscar

717
00:44:37,079 --> 00:44:43,960
Valdez rematch postpone currently, So what
if anything does this mean. It wasn't

718
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,320
that the purspid was postponed. They
had the WBO had given the two sides

719
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:52,000
until Tuesday of this week to make
a deal or they would schedule a purse

720
00:44:52,079 --> 00:44:54,280
bid, gotcha, which would be
a few more week, you know,

721
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:58,159
a few more days or another week. Are you arguing semantics with me?

722
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,239
They're not having the purse bid this
scheduled coming this Tuesday? Am I right?

723
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:05,719
No? There was never no,
no, no, it wasn't scheduled.

724
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:07,719
Let me finish. There was never
a purspid schedule. It was you

725
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:12,119
haven't tiled Tuesday to make a deal. If you don't make a deal,

726
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,880
then we're going to set the schedule
and the person would probably be sometime within

727
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,119
the next you know, a week
to ten days after that. Top rank

728
00:45:19,199 --> 00:45:22,880
went to the WBO. Obviously they
promote both fighters, so usually in these

729
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,719
cases it's not that complicated. They
asked for an extension of that, they

730
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:30,599
were granted a one week extension of
that, and they're working through the particulars.

731
00:45:30,599 --> 00:45:32,639
They're probably going to make the fight. Both sides want to do it.

732
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:37,519
Navarette lost in the lightweight title fight
he's coming back to junior lightweight where

733
00:45:37,519 --> 00:45:40,639
he has the WBO title in the
In the period of time where his fight

734
00:45:40,679 --> 00:45:46,800
against Baranchick Baroncheck was scheduled, which
he lost, Valdez was permitted to fight

735
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:51,559
for the vacant interim title, which
he did and he knocked out Liam Wilson

736
00:45:51,599 --> 00:45:54,159
in March. Listen, the way
this was supposed to work in quote marks

737
00:45:54,559 --> 00:45:58,400
is that Navarette was going to go
up and beat Baroncheck and win the WBO

738
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,960
title, and then Valdez would have
elevate. When never Atta lost, he

739
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,800
then had the option, I can
either go back to one hundred and thirty

740
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,480
and retain my time, I can
say one thirty five. Well, a

741
00:46:07,519 --> 00:46:10,039
lot of people thought, whatever happened, he wasn't coming back to one thirty

742
00:46:10,079 --> 00:46:13,920
because of his constant, you know, battles with making weight, whatever weight

743
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,400
class he's in. Uh. He
surprised a lot of people because he made

744
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:20,440
the decision that's economically it is better
to be in one hundred and thirty with

745
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,920
a title than one hundred and thirty
five coming off a loss without a title.

746
00:46:23,119 --> 00:46:27,039
So therefore the wb A follow their
roles. They ordered to fight and

747
00:46:27,159 --> 00:46:29,639
I and I would just submit.
We talked about this at the time.

748
00:46:29,679 --> 00:46:32,599
He looked sloppy and slow and out
of shape at one thirty five. So

749
00:46:32,679 --> 00:46:36,719
get back in better shape. Because
this is a guy that progressed very quickly

750
00:46:37,119 --> 00:46:40,119
to featherweight one twenty six, then
to junior lightweight, then the lightweight.

751
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:45,400
What do I know. I don't
take those touches, I don't train move

752
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,000
back down and fight Valdez for a
titlet one thirty seems to make. But

753
00:46:47,199 --> 00:46:51,199
the shot I hear of this,
the upshot, is this, if they

754
00:46:51,199 --> 00:46:53,119
get the deal done, which I
believe they will, the date that is

755
00:46:53,159 --> 00:46:58,559
penciled in for this fight is December, the seventh. Gotcha location to be

756
00:46:58,599 --> 00:47:00,800
announced obviously, And look, some
people are I wrote about this in my

757
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:06,280
newsletter in my notebook that came out
just recently, and some people were complaining

758
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:07,360
about the fight. You know,
what do we need to see it for?

759
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,519
And I understand people are like,
Okay, we don't need to see

760
00:47:09,519 --> 00:47:13,760
that again because the first fight was
terrific, but it was very clear cut

761
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,599
in favor of Naverette. But I've
seen worse rematches. I mean, I

762
00:47:16,639 --> 00:47:21,880
lived through the Winkie right. Bronco
McCart trilogy. I lived through the Evander

763
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,079
Holyfield John Ruiz trilogy. Yea,
if we have to get a rematch of

764
00:47:24,159 --> 00:47:27,800
Navarrette Valdez, I can definitely handle
that. That was a hell of a

765
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,239
fight, so a good line,
and then that does look good against Leem

766
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:34,280
Wilson, so maybe he can.
And Navar by the way draw against Conte

767
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,400
sal and then loss after that.
He's got to get his act together.

768
00:47:37,639 --> 00:47:40,239
So that's I mean, for all
the accolades of him dominating Valdez, what

769
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:44,480
have you done for me lately?
Baby? All right? So let's see

770
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,639
what happens on that. By the
way, there was an Australian car that

771
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:52,880
has implications from earlier this week where
Sam Goodman won and is still the IBF

772
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:58,880
mandatory for Naolia in a way right
now. But there there's more to the

773
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:00,880
story, rayphel is all always more
to the story in boxing. So what's

774
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,639
going on here with Goodman status?
Real quick? All right? So if

775
00:48:04,639 --> 00:48:08,119
you go back to May when in
a way wiped out NEARI in the Tokyo

776
00:48:08,199 --> 00:48:13,199
Dome to retain the undisputed title,
who was there standing in the ring within

777
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,000
a way after the fight to talk
up the fight? I'm thinking that was

778
00:48:16,039 --> 00:48:19,960
that I did see Sam Goodman.
That is correct. So Sam Goodman,

779
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,079
who was an undefeated fighter from Australia
who is the IBF's mandatory challenger. They

780
00:48:23,079 --> 00:48:27,920
were in the ring together the same
way has happened plenty of times in the

781
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,320
past where you see the next opponent
in the ring doing interviews together, et

782
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,920
cetera, or you know, a
number of different weight classes and fights.

783
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,519
So that the sort of the thought
was, okay, fine, they're gonna

784
00:48:37,519 --> 00:48:38,719
get rid of the IBF mandatory.
They're going to take that fight. That'll

785
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:44,880
be in a ways fight when it
comes back sometimes September time frame. For

786
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:49,079
whatever reason, Goodman took this fight
instead against a Thailand fighter, war A

787
00:48:49,159 --> 00:48:53,519
What Chenoi war What from Thailand.
It was twenty five and one with one

788
00:48:53,599 --> 00:48:59,840
draw, and they fought in Australia
on Wednesday. And Goodman, you know,

789
00:49:00,119 --> 00:49:02,039
he won the fight pretty clearly on
the scorecards, like eleven to one

790
00:49:02,119 --> 00:49:07,360
on one card, nine three whatever
on the other cards. He injured his

791
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:12,119
hand. I checked in with his
promoter at no Limit to find out what,

792
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,039
you know, how bad it was
damaged. They thought it was nothing

793
00:49:15,079 --> 00:49:16,239
too overly serious, that it was
going to probably be, you know,

794
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:20,360
no more than like a month or
two, but that would not allow him

795
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,239
to fight in September against anyway.
Now, there's a lot of conversation that

796
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:27,480
in a way has already made the
decision that his next fight around September is

797
00:49:27,519 --> 00:49:30,800
going to be against the former title
holder, TJ. Doheny, who was

798
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,719
a Irish fighter that lives in Australia, who used to have one of the

799
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:37,559
one hundred and twenty two pound title
belts, who fought on the undercard when

800
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,079
he knocked out Louis Nearing. That
appears. I was checked in with Top

801
00:49:40,119 --> 00:49:43,320
Rank, who's his co promoter,
and they're like, yeah, that's the

802
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:47,000
fight we're making or we're planning.
But the no limit people that are with

803
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:52,239
goodmen say no, we're fighting in
a way next. Then you have Ak

804
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,599
Mandaliev, who was the former title
holder. He is the mandatory in the

805
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:59,840
WBA that fight has been ordered and
his people have already sent a letter,

806
00:50:00,199 --> 00:50:04,920
you know, basically threatening the WBA
that you cannot bypass us, particularly for

807
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,159
an optional defense, unless everybody agrees
that we're next and all that. So

808
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:10,760
it feels like in a way is
going to do it. In a way

809
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:14,039
is going to do, which is
apparently fighting team to Dohaney. Now,

810
00:50:14,039 --> 00:50:15,119
I guess it's going to be a
matter is he gonna have all the belts

811
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:21,679
associated with that fight if he doesn't
fight Aquade If I don't think Goodman will

812
00:50:21,679 --> 00:50:24,159
be a problem because the thing is
in a way probably will fight two more

813
00:50:24,199 --> 00:50:28,800
times this year. So he goes
in September. Goodman would probably line up

814
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:34,800
as his opponent in say December slash
early January, so it's kind of up

815
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,719
in the air. But the bottom
line is dam Goodman wouldn't even be in

816
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,400
the conversation. He didn't win the
fight that he won on Wednesday, so

817
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:44,280
he took care of that. So
he maintains his position and now we'll see

818
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,440
them kind of fight it out.
And we should make mention he did beat

819
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:52,760
TJ. Dohaney head to head all
the way back in March of twenty twenty

820
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,880
three. The bigger upset win was
a few months later in June of last

821
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,880
year, on an undercart of a
tam Zuoman event on Showtime, he beat

822
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:04,599
the American rayis Aline. So Goodman
has a couple of interesting wins. But

823
00:51:04,639 --> 00:51:07,960
as you men, he's a good
He's got an injured hand. I mean,

824
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:12,880
it's not hard. He's probably not
next in September, depending we'll say,

825
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:14,599
but he could get a shot.
But now, you know what I

826
00:51:14,679 --> 00:51:16,360
find it. I took it like
this when I asked the No Limit people

827
00:51:17,079 --> 00:51:20,440
that that they said, well,
Goodman's next fight's gonna be in a way.

828
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,079
In my mind, I don't know
if this is what they meant.

829
00:51:22,079 --> 00:51:24,519
I haven't clarified it with them.
It seemed to me that it might be

830
00:51:24,599 --> 00:51:28,199
Goodman's next fight against in a way, but not in a way's next fight.

831
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,199
In other words, in a way
could go forward with this TJ.

832
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,760
Doaney fight and then fight Goodman in
the next fight. Now, what happens

833
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:37,079
in terms of the akmadaliav. Mandatory, you know, we'll see what happens

834
00:51:37,079 --> 00:51:39,239
with the BELTA, what happens with
their pressure on the WBA. Matter of

835
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,800
fact, in the letter that they
sent to the WBA, which I wrote

836
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,760
about, you know, a week
or so ago, they cited a lawsuit

837
00:51:46,639 --> 00:51:51,920
under this exact same circumstance where the
WBA lost in federal court. And you

838
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,360
could just take the names, you
know, Akmadaliev in a way, Dohaney,

839
00:51:55,639 --> 00:51:59,400
and just change them out of that
paperwork. And it would be the

840
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:04,320
same exact let us make this simple
for you, WBA. We've seen this

841
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,440
movie before, and we are going
to argue the exact same thing and insert

842
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,920
our names. So we'll see,
we'll see what happens. Uh. The

843
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,480
main thing here though, is in
a way he's just gonna fight whoever,

844
00:52:14,519 --> 00:52:19,199
and he's probably anyway. All right, one more note and then nostalgia time,

845
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,480
and then we are finished up.
Golden Boy did officially announced Virgil Ortiz

846
00:52:22,559 --> 00:52:28,199
will now be on a standalone a
title fight on August the tenth, not

847
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:32,599
part of the August third Los Angeles
show from the Saudi Entertainment Authority. Boachuk

848
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:38,119
is the opponent, and you've got
more news on Virgil and also a little

849
00:52:38,119 --> 00:52:42,480
bit on this undercard for August the
tenth as they were having the press conference

850
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,800
also on Thursday. Yeah, so
I mean we know that the fight's happening.

851
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:51,119
Boachuk won the interim WBC belt on
that Fundora tien Zuo undercard. Virgil

852
00:52:51,159 --> 00:52:53,199
was supposed to fight Tim Zoo August
third. He was not ready to come

853
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:58,239
back because of the terrible laceration on
his scalp the blood everywhere, so he

854
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,119
was out and the Saudi's for whatever
the reasons why they didn't want to do

855
00:53:01,159 --> 00:53:04,400
the Boicheck fight, which was what
was present to them as one of the

856
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,559
possibilities. But Golden Boy and his
own and Tom Loffler, who is the

857
00:53:07,559 --> 00:53:10,559
Boachick promoter, still wanted to go
forward and have the fight done. So

858
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,760
they were like, Okay, we're
not going to do the fight in August

859
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,960
start, so we're gonna have Virgil
and Boacheck headline the next Golden Boys show

860
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,639
after that, which is August the
tenth. They'll headline that show at Andelai

861
00:53:20,679 --> 00:53:22,199
Bay. And it's a hell of
a fight. I mean, these two

862
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:29,159
guys combined have you know, forty
four knockouts in their combined forty five wins,

863
00:53:30,119 --> 00:53:32,920
and the only loss Boacheck has won
defeat. But they've they've scored well.

864
00:53:34,039 --> 00:53:37,280
Virgil's perfect in terms of his knockouts, won every fight by knockout,

865
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,559
and Boacheck has won, you know, all of his fights except for one

866
00:53:39,559 --> 00:53:43,199
by knockout. So, and the
interesting thing is, and we'll get more

867
00:53:43,199 --> 00:53:46,480
into it as the fight gets closer, but Boachick and Virgil have had a

868
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:52,079
lot of sparring rounds together. They
know each other and Virgil is like,

869
00:53:52,119 --> 00:53:53,679
you know, this is gonna be
a brutal fight, so you know that's

870
00:53:53,679 --> 00:53:59,199
from his mouth. So it shapes
up as a very interesting fight for high

871
00:53:59,199 --> 00:54:01,039
stakes. Obviously the title the vacant, that the vacant, but the interim

872
00:54:01,039 --> 00:54:05,159
titles at stake, which in and
of itself is just sort of like a

873
00:54:05,199 --> 00:54:07,599
whatever, but it puts you in
a great position to either be elevated or

874
00:54:07,639 --> 00:54:12,960
to get a fight against one of
the bigger name champions, and so that

875
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,280
that's gonna be uh No, that's
that's a significant fight, and it's gonna

876
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,960
be it. It's one of the
better fights on Maybe it's not the biggest

877
00:54:19,039 --> 00:54:21,960
name fight, as Bocheks not really
got a big name, but in terms

878
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,599
of what in my mind with the
action to expect, that shapes up to

879
00:54:24,639 --> 00:54:28,039
me is like one of the better
fights of this summer. Now you asked,

880
00:54:28,039 --> 00:54:30,239
Now, they didn't announce the undercard
just yet, but I am told

881
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:34,719
that among the fighters that will be
that will be on that undercard are two

882
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,840
of the better golden boy fighters that
they have in their stable. And that

883
00:54:37,039 --> 00:54:42,960
is and I wrote this before the
excellent junior welterweight contender Kenneth Simms, who

884
00:54:43,039 --> 00:54:45,800
had been with PBC, who's off
a one year layoff, who signed with

885
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:47,920
them back in May. He's going
to fight on that under card in his

886
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:52,960
first fight of the contract. And
also Charles Conwell, the twenty sixteen United

887
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:58,679
States Olympian undefeated junior middleweight contender nineteen
and zero, who had reached as high

888
00:54:58,679 --> 00:55:00,320
as number one in the WBC,
but he went into all kinds of layoffs

889
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:04,880
and issues, hadn't fought for seventeen
months, had promotional problems, manager problems,

890
00:55:05,079 --> 00:55:07,719
you know whatever. So but he
did sign with Goldenway, and he

891
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:12,039
came back and had his first fight
with the company back in April and got

892
00:55:12,119 --> 00:55:15,880
a nice knockout against Nathaniel Gallimore.
So he got these two good young contenders,

893
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:20,760
you know, really providing Golden Boy. In my opinion, they're like

894
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,519
sneaky quiet, like building up a
really solid, good stable of contenders and

895
00:55:23,599 --> 00:55:28,480
champions. Re signing Virgil Artis to
a contract, which is the other thing

896
00:55:28,519 --> 00:55:30,559
I wanted to mention that that was
the other part of what you were talking

897
00:55:30,559 --> 00:55:35,400
about. When they did the press
conference to announce the fight in the hours

898
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,679
prior to actually having the press comments, Golden Boy announced that they had signed

899
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:42,119
Virgil to a contract extension. His
contract was coming up, and now he's

900
00:55:42,159 --> 00:55:45,000
got everything handled. He's a loyal
guy. Golden Boy was loyal to him.

901
00:55:45,199 --> 00:55:46,719
They've enjoyed working with each other,
and they got he got a great

902
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:52,000
deal and he's going to stay with
Golden Boy. So unlike Chaquar Stevenson and

903
00:55:52,039 --> 00:55:54,119
some others who wanted to go out
and test the market. And trust me

904
00:55:54,119 --> 00:55:57,840
when I tell you, if Virgil
Ortiz was on the open market, I

905
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:01,079
promise you that the other promoters to
come shooting, whether it was PBC,

906
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:05,920
Top Rank, Match Room, maybe
Frank Warren, everybody would have been after

907
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,880
Virgil Ortiz. Twenty six years old, undefeated all by knockout, highly rated,

908
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:13,199
good, good puncher, good fighter, good fan base. You know,

909
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,440
the guy you want to have.
Anyway, he didn't want to do

910
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:19,679
that. He likes where he's at. He's staying with Golden Boy. They

911
00:56:19,679 --> 00:56:22,559
resign him and they're gonna build around
him. I mean there are other big

912
00:56:22,599 --> 00:56:25,199
star. Ryan Garcia is on the
shelf for who knows how long, of

913
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:30,079
course, but Ortiz is a guy
you can definitely, you know, don't

914
00:56:30,079 --> 00:56:31,440
have to worry you. You match
him up with. He's gonna probably compete

915
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:37,039
and beat most guys if he doesn't. He's always exciting anyway, So it's

916
00:56:37,079 --> 00:56:39,480
a big day for them. They
announced this excellent matchup. They've got two

917
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:44,039
of the newer fighters that they've signed
who are top contender level guys, gonna

918
00:56:44,079 --> 00:56:46,079
fight on the undercard, and they
got the main event guy who's the A

919
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:50,840
side challenging for an interim title.
And by the way, we got his

920
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:52,199
name on a contract to keep him
with us for the next few years.

921
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,280
So that's a good week for Golden
Boy Promotions. Let me tell you that's

922
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:59,960
coming RN, that's coming into August, all right, nostalgia time. Always

923
00:57:00,119 --> 00:57:04,280
love the nostalgia. Man, oh
man, I remember this by July twelfth,

924
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:08,280
twenty eight years ago, nineteen eighty
six. Well, no, wait

925
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,639
a minute, it's even more than
that, right, it's thirty eight years

926
00:57:10,639 --> 00:57:15,719
ago? Am I correct? July
twelfth, nineteen eighty six on the math

927
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:21,639
for Evander Holyfield thirty eight years ago. Oh my god, I'm reading from

928
00:57:21,639 --> 00:57:23,519
my ray Field Rundown that says twenty
eight. You're trying to make me feel

929
00:57:23,559 --> 00:57:29,440
younger, but that's actually that's actually
thirty eight years ago. I remember Dwight

930
00:57:29,519 --> 00:57:36,199
Muhammad Kawe of vander Holyfield for the
WBA Junior Heavyweight title as it was known

931
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:40,800
at that time. And I remember
it because it was holy Field in Atlanta,

932
00:57:42,239 --> 00:57:45,519
his home and on Wide World of
Sports, by the way, with

933
00:57:45,679 --> 00:57:51,719
Jim Lampley still on the call at
that point in nineteen eighty six, and

934
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:55,199
Jim, Jim Lampley talked to you
about during that time period where he had

935
00:57:55,239 --> 00:57:59,840
a boss at ABC that basically put
him on boxing to try to get him

936
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:05,800
to wit and Lampsley embraced the role
and instead was calling Mike Tyson fights and

937
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:09,559
this fight, this was an amazing
fight. When we talk now thirty eight

938
00:58:09,639 --> 00:58:14,519
years ago, holy Field in the
former Dwight Braxton converted, converted to Islam,

939
00:58:14,559 --> 00:58:17,320
became Dwight Mohammed Kawei. They could
have fired You love it when I

940
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:20,280
give the analogy. They could have
fought it in a bathtop. They did

941
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:22,039
not require a lot of lateral movement, a lot of the right. See.

942
00:58:22,239 --> 00:58:23,920
I thought you were to say they
could have found a phone booth,

943
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:25,840
and then we'd have to explain to
the kids with a phone both they don't

944
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:29,280
know what a phone booth does.
Anymore. They don't know what a newspaper

945
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:34,119
is. They don't know what a
TV with a knob on it is.

946
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,079
They have no idea what those things
were. But Kawee and holy Field went

947
00:58:37,119 --> 00:58:40,920
toe to toe in one of the
final fifteen round fights. By the way,

948
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,840
fifteen round fights fight that way.
And by the way, Lampy.

949
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:46,400
Lampley wasn't just a guy that embraced
doing these types of fights. Lampley was

950
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:50,800
a diehard boxing fan from his child, but his Boston agency didn't know that.

951
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,519
But Kauie and holy Field, now
they're both in the Hall of Fame.

952
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:57,320
Kawi was one of the one of
the top fighters of his day.

953
00:58:58,159 --> 00:59:04,119
This was TJ And you have to
tell you you want to talk about a

954
00:59:04,159 --> 00:59:07,719
grueling, violent, lacious, fucking
fight, that is what this is.

955
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,960
I mean, it is grueling.
I mean I think about it, I'm

956
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:15,280
like, I cannot believe that these
guys took and dished out what they did.

957
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:17,800
Now, keep in mind, when
most people think about the great Evander

958
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:22,760
Holyfield and all the tremendous battles he
has, this fight is not top of

959
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:25,679
mind, right. They think of
the Great Rittick Bow Trilogy, they think

960
00:59:25,719 --> 00:59:30,400
of his victories against Mike Tyson particularly. You know, they obviously the earbite,

961
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:32,079
but the great fight was the first
fight where it was an all time

962
00:59:32,119 --> 00:59:36,639
action kind of fight. They think
about a plenty of other fights that Evander

963
00:59:36,679 --> 00:59:42,159
Holyfield has this fight action for action, and maybe it's not at the level

964
00:59:42,199 --> 00:59:45,280
of some of those bow fights,
but this is every bit as good as

965
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:49,039
a fight you'll ever see. When
I talk about the greatest cruiserweight fights in

966
00:59:49,079 --> 00:59:52,079
the history of the division, this
is in the short list of those fights.

967
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:58,239
There's this, There's James Tony against
Vasili Jiroff. There's one of the

968
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,480
what was a John Mark Mormack Dell
fights. I can't remember as the first

969
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,599
one or the second one. If
you say so, you losing me on

970
01:00:02,639 --> 01:00:06,440
that, I'll take your work.
I'm just making the point though, if

971
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:07,920
you were making your list of,
like say, the top three four to

972
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:13,559
five cruiserweight title fights of all time, this is in the top toura at

973
01:00:13,639 --> 01:00:16,880
worse. I mean just I haven't
gone back and watched recently. I don't

974
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:20,559
know that I have really ever gone
back and watched the fight. I remember

975
01:00:20,599 --> 01:00:23,119
seeing a highlight here or there,
but it was in the old Omnium I

976
01:00:23,159 --> 01:00:28,159
correct where the Hawks played basketball,
and it was blazing hot in July without

977
01:00:28,239 --> 01:00:31,239
much air, and there was a
lot of concern in both corners as this

978
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:37,119
fight wore on heat exhaustion. I
remember, I think Lampley even bringing it

979
01:00:37,199 --> 01:00:39,320
up about how hot it was late
in the fight, and they just kept

980
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:44,679
wailing on each other. Now remember
also, yeah about this, Evander had

981
01:00:44,719 --> 01:00:46,960
won a medal, a bronze medal
where he kind of was robbed the Olympics

982
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:51,119
of anything further than that. But
he was in the nineteen eighty four Olympics,

983
01:00:51,119 --> 01:00:53,559
and this is in July of nineteen
eighty six, so he's barely two

984
01:00:53,679 --> 01:00:57,679
years into his professional career. So
for him to go through this type of

985
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:00,280
a fifteen round war at the very
early stages of his career, he was

986
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:05,599
only eleven and oh going into this
fight, and he put this fifteen rounder

987
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:09,239
that's like as brutal as anything you'll
ever see, you know, in your

988
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:13,559
life. He was eleven to Ozho
with eight knockouts. But it was just

989
01:01:13,639 --> 01:01:17,639
absolutely sensational and it was close and
it was competitive, and Evander found a

990
01:01:17,679 --> 01:01:22,519
way in those last few rounds to
get the job done. I mean,

991
01:01:22,519 --> 01:01:24,800
it was I'm in odd when I
think about this fight and I'm gonna pull

992
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:28,159
the curtain back a little bit.
You know you follow me in my social

993
01:01:28,199 --> 01:01:30,800
media, you know I'm always tweeting
out right, posting on Instagram or Facebook

994
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:35,320
whatever, like pictures of my programs
and posters, and I usually link those

995
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:42,000
postings to the anniversaries of these significant
fights I'm in. I've been embarrassed to

996
01:01:42,039 --> 01:01:45,519
say this. I have a beautiful
mint program from this fight TG. I

997
01:01:45,559 --> 01:01:51,199
can't fucking find it. Where is
that? Where is the what? This

998
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:57,039
is unheard of? Because usually you
have this stuff catalogs me winced in a

999
01:01:57,079 --> 01:02:01,719
certain drawer, in a certain file. Sea up, I have this program.

1000
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:05,400
When is the last time that you
looked for it before? Now?

1001
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,960
Did you look forward to a year
ago? This time? Probably last year?

1002
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:10,360
I know I have it, I
mean I know where I have it,

1003
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:14,480
like on your spreadsheet. I have
this, I obtained it. But

1004
01:02:14,559 --> 01:02:16,880
where is it? I have all
of my programs cataloged and a you know

1005
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:22,199
word. Did you potentially trade it
and not remember for something else? No?

1006
01:02:22,199 --> 01:02:24,599
No, no, no, because
I know you do trade sometimes I

1007
01:02:24,679 --> 01:02:27,800
do, but that would not have
traded this because I don't have duplicates of

1008
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:34,239
it, so wouldn't be saying so
somewhere in either in my office or in

1009
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:38,519
the poster room where I have my
program boxes, it's it's I didn't lose

1010
01:02:38,559 --> 01:02:43,159
it. It's here, but you
got to find it. There's two programs

1011
01:02:43,159 --> 01:02:45,599
that I have that I can't fucking
find. There's second one am I A.

1012
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:50,000
There's this one that I just cannot
find. I'm going to fucking tear

1013
01:02:50,079 --> 01:02:52,360
my office apart. I think,
what we're done taping this and look for

1014
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:55,440
I also can't find my program from
Tyson versus Razorotic number one? I have

1015
01:02:55,559 --> 01:03:00,559
that awesome all right, So we
got two am as, but this one

1016
01:03:00,599 --> 01:03:01,880
is the big one because I can't
fucking find it. And this was a

1017
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:05,119
tremendous fight. All right, I'm
going to hit you with something. Don't

1018
01:03:05,119 --> 01:03:07,639
look at anything, because you are
who you are. I did not know

1019
01:03:07,719 --> 01:03:12,079
this till I just saw this.
So Dwight Braxton or Dwight Muhammed Kawei was

1020
01:03:12,119 --> 01:03:14,639
on the rise. He was known, he had fought on ABC. Some

1021
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:22,199
had notoriety before this fight. Who
was Dwight Mohammed Kawi's win over immediately before

1022
01:03:22,199 --> 01:03:24,440
the Holy Field fight, famous name. I didn't know this I didn't know

1023
01:03:24,519 --> 01:03:28,239
they ever beat this guy. Do
you know the name pop Quiz. I'm

1024
01:03:28,239 --> 01:03:30,840
going to use a quote from the
great Mike Tyson. How dare you challenge

1025
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:37,960
me with your somewhat primitive skills?
Go Leon Spinks today? The day they

1026
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:40,960
were Kyaween's. Yeah, today,
were taping this. I believe this would

1027
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:44,519
be Leon Spinks's birthday, who passed
a couple of years ago. Wow,

1028
01:03:45,039 --> 01:03:47,199
but Lee, look, I'm going
to look up while we're while we're doing

1029
01:03:47,199 --> 01:03:50,519
this, well, no, I'm
looking at it right now. His birthday

1030
01:03:50,559 --> 01:03:53,039
was July eleventh, nineteen fifty three. You're correct, we're taping it on

1031
01:03:53,119 --> 01:03:57,800
Thursday of the eleventh. Would have
been spinkx's birthday. After I had such

1032
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:00,840
a great a hold on hold on. So he had such a great Olympic

1033
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:06,280
career and was a world champion and
Dwight Mohammed Kawei beat him in March of

1034
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:12,960
that year, and then he fought
the Olympic fighter that had been disqualified for

1035
01:04:13,239 --> 01:04:15,880
a late punch to keep him from
the being in the gold medal match in

1036
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:19,559
Evander Holyfield. So that's just interesting. I never knew that Kawe and Leon

1037
01:04:19,599 --> 01:04:23,840
Spinks fought, and that was was
pretty much you know, I understand,

1038
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:27,360
but still a hit wonder. Let's
be honest, let's but still I mean

1039
01:04:27,599 --> 01:04:30,159
it's tonight, it's a good win. I mean, that's that's a name,

1040
01:04:30,239 --> 01:04:31,800
that's a noteworthy name that they fought. All right, So go back

1041
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:38,039
kids and YouTube that went upween.
This is this is another great stat So

1042
01:04:38,039 --> 01:04:41,280
that nineteen eighty four Olympic team.
Obviously the Russians and the and the and

1043
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:45,599
the Soviet Bloc countries Cuba, they
did not compete because they boycotted because the

1044
01:04:45,679 --> 01:04:49,519
United States had boycotted the nineteen eighty
Olympics unfortunately, so the greatest amateurs from

1045
01:04:49,559 --> 01:04:55,239
a significant portion were not present in
Los Angeles to compete. But the United

1046
01:04:55,239 --> 01:04:59,400
States dominated and won, uh,
you know, a whole I think they

1047
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:01,440
won nine medals in the Olympic boxing, a bunch of gold. I can't

1048
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:05,320
remember how many, but a whole
bunch of gold medals in boxing. Evander

1049
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:09,280
did not get the gold. As
I mentioned, he was disqualified against Kevin

1050
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:12,440
Berry, who went on to become
a top trainer, trained people like David

1051
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:15,079
Tua. That's probably what he was
best known for. But was you know,

1052
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:17,000
still around boxing. I I still
see Kevin every now and again.

1053
01:05:17,039 --> 01:05:19,480
He's from New Zealand, but he
lives in Vegas, so I still see

1054
01:05:19,559 --> 01:05:23,360
him around it. Fights always got
along gray with Kevin. But anyway,

1055
01:05:23,519 --> 01:05:26,039
that was the fighter that Evander got
decuted against and he ended up getting the

1056
01:05:26,039 --> 01:05:30,119
bronze medal. So all these great
fighters that won Olympic gold from his team,

1057
01:05:30,159 --> 01:05:33,199
Meldrich, Taylor, Hearnel, Whittaker, Tyrrell Biggs, I mean,

1058
01:05:34,119 --> 01:05:39,480
Mark Breeland, they had a great
team, Henry Tail, Henry Tilman exactly.

1059
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:45,199
But Evander became among all of those
Olympic medal winners from the United States

1060
01:05:45,199 --> 01:05:46,719
team. Even though he didn't get
the gold, he did become the first

1061
01:05:47,039 --> 01:05:50,519
from that group to win a professional
world title in this fight against Dwaye,

1062
01:05:50,519 --> 01:05:54,000
MOhm and Kawie. And also,
by the way, when he won that

1063
01:05:54,039 --> 01:05:58,000
fight against Kawie, he went on
to he actually knocked Kawie out in a

1064
01:05:58,039 --> 01:06:00,719
rematch a couple of years later.
He went on to become the undisputed cruiserweight

1065
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:04,840
champion, and then became of course
when he was the first ever undisputed cruiserweight

1066
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:11,280
champion, and then he became the
first ever undisputed cruiserweight to also become the

1067
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:14,880
undisputed heavyweight. I mean, that's
but it wouldn't. This was what started

1068
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:17,119
all that by winning that title against
Kouei in one of the great fights of

1069
01:06:17,119 --> 01:06:20,760
all time. All right, quickly, a couple of more things on the

1070
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:25,880
nostalgia also all the time program.
Well, I mean, you got to

1071
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:29,800
find the program. You're you're looking
at me like that's somehow my responsibility.

1072
01:06:30,199 --> 01:06:31,320
I mean, let me just pull
the curtain back on my own household.

1073
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:34,360
I show back up after being gone
to Las Vegas for three days, and

1074
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:39,960
I'm being blamed for things in my
house by the wife and twins that have

1075
01:06:40,079 --> 01:06:43,960
nothing to do with me because I
was three time zones away. Are you?

1076
01:06:44,039 --> 01:06:45,159
I mean, if you're gonna come
at me now the same way when

1077
01:06:45,159 --> 01:06:50,239
I've been in Vegas about your program
for Holyfield, Kawi, I'm not responsible

1078
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:55,400
for the cataloging and the caretaking in
the ray Field collection. Yet here you

1079
01:06:55,559 --> 01:06:59,840
put me on the payroll and I'm
now the curator of the collection. That

1080
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:01,639
that's a different role for me.
Then you can yell at me about that.

1081
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:04,880
Go find it yourself right now,
figure out what you did with it.

1082
01:07:05,199 --> 01:07:12,119
But also on Friday July twelfth,
ten years ago, I don't feel

1083
01:07:12,159 --> 01:07:15,480
as old Canelo, Alvarez, Aris
Landy, Laura, you were ringside at

1084
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:20,679
the MGM Grand and this was a
lot closer than what a lot of people

1085
01:07:20,679 --> 01:07:28,320
may remember to Canelo taking a loss
that night. What else stands out was

1086
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:31,440
Laura good? Was Canelo just eh? Or both? Or what was it?

1087
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:35,079
Well, let's put it in perspective
so people understand where in the career

1088
01:07:35,079 --> 01:07:40,599
of Canelo this took place. He
had lost to Floyd Mayweather in their humongous

1089
01:07:40,639 --> 01:07:45,440
mega fight. His next fight after
that, he dominated and stopped Alfredo Angulo,

1090
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:48,639
who was a pretty good contender at
that time, but it was a

1091
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:55,599
very one sided fight. At the
press conference after that fight, Arislani Laara

1092
01:07:55,639 --> 01:08:00,360
showed up and called him out in
front of everybody at the MGM the same

1093
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:02,480
way you know, years later Dimitri's
Andre would do. It. Wasn't not

1094
01:08:02,559 --> 01:08:06,400
Canelo's first time experiencing that. When
when when Andre did that a few years

1095
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:10,480
ago? So Lara did that like
that's you know, the old tried and

1096
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:14,239
true method to try to get the
big fight is to go to your desired

1097
01:08:14,239 --> 01:08:16,720
opponent's postfight press conference and try to
insult him and call him out and Canelo

1098
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:19,079
resisted. He's like, basically,
you know, who are you? You

1099
01:08:19,119 --> 01:08:25,000
know? And I remember this Actually
at that press conference, Canelo through the

1100
01:08:25,039 --> 01:08:27,239
train. He didn't speak much English
back then, so it was through the

1101
01:08:27,239 --> 01:08:30,319
translitter. He basically said, we're
in the MGM, in the main press

1102
01:08:30,399 --> 01:08:32,840
room wherever you know, the big
fights are always hosted for the the you

1103
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:38,239
know, A and B ballroom at
the MGM Grand and he basically said something

1104
01:08:38,279 --> 01:08:40,800
to the extent of, you know, talking to the media and to all

1105
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:43,840
the people that were in the room, you know, raise your hand if

1106
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:46,920
you want to see me fight.
ARISONI Laara, and I remember this.

1107
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:49,920
Did you put your hand up?
No? I didn't because I wasn't going

1108
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:53,920
to participate in the boxer's poll.
I was there as a journalist, not

1109
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:56,880
to offer my viewpoint on what he
should be doing. But the point is

1110
01:08:56,960 --> 01:09:00,319
at that news conference when he said
that, there was one per person that

1111
01:09:00,399 --> 01:09:03,439
raised their hand, and it was
Laura's manager, Louis the Koubas was Laura

1112
01:09:04,279 --> 01:09:09,920
well obviously wanted to fight anyway.
So now fast forward, that was in

1113
01:09:10,279 --> 01:09:13,800
that press conference was in after the
fight. This is March of twenty fourteen.

1114
01:09:14,279 --> 01:09:17,359
Now fast forward to like you know, early May of twenty fourteen,

1115
01:09:17,399 --> 01:09:21,359
and they ended up making the fight. Canelo basically changed his mind and went

1116
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:26,399
against his promoters at Golden Boy at
the time, his team they did not

1117
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:29,279
want him to fight Laara. They
thought it was a dangerous fights like left

1118
01:09:29,279 --> 01:09:34,399
hander Arislani at the time was the
the WBA's junior middleweight champion, and they

1119
01:09:34,399 --> 01:09:38,640
did not want him to fight the
fight. But Canelo basically said I'm taking

1120
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:40,640
the fight, and they made the
match. Now, it was a showtime

1121
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:43,840
pay per view fight. It was
the title was not on the line.

1122
01:09:44,319 --> 01:09:45,399
They for whatever the reason was,
I don't know if it was Canelo just

1123
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:47,560
don't want to fight for the WBA, don't want to pay the sanctuity,

1124
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:50,840
whatever the case is. They contracted
the fight at one hundred and fifty five

1125
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:54,680
pounds, one pound over the limits, so the title was not on the

1126
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:58,560
line, but in essence, it
was determined to determine who is the number

1127
01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:01,840
one fighter at one hundred and fifty
four pounds, and Canelo ended up winning

1128
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:05,600
the fight. Now, there are
some people that want to insist that he

1129
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:10,039
got that he got a gift that
night, that Lara got robbed. I

1130
01:10:10,119 --> 01:10:13,039
wholeheartedly disagreed with that. Now,
I went back to my article that I

1131
01:10:13,079 --> 01:10:15,560
wrote the night of the fight on
ESPN, and I dug it out,

1132
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:17,920
and I knew I had Canelo winning
the fight, but I couldn't remember what

1133
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:20,439
my score was, so I looked
up. So just for the sake of

1134
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:25,760
the whole thing, here you had
the official judges, very familiar judges by

1135
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:29,720
the way, LeVar Martinez one seventeen, one eleven in favor of Canelo,

1136
01:10:30,079 --> 01:10:32,880
Dave Moretti won fifteen one to thirteen
in favor of Canelo, and Jerry Roth

1137
01:10:33,199 --> 01:10:36,520
one fifteen to one thirteen in favor
of Canelo, and Rayfhael had it in

1138
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:41,279
the middle one sixteen to one twelve
in favor of Canelo. The reason why

1139
01:10:41,399 --> 01:10:46,840
Canelo won that fight is because Arislani
Laura literally at times ran and ran and

1140
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:53,279
ran backed up, just refused to
do anything that we even remotely looked like

1141
01:10:53,319 --> 01:10:57,640
an offensive moment in the fight.
And I'm sorry, but you cannot give

1142
01:10:57,680 --> 01:11:00,800
a guy the fight. Meanwhile,
Canelo's landing shot, he's doing his thing,

1143
01:11:00,319 --> 01:11:03,800
and you know you're gonna get the
benefit of the doubt when one guy's

1144
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:09,760
pressing the action and they're both having
some success and the other guy's not doing

1145
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:13,039
anything. Uh, And it was
just one of those things where there was

1146
01:11:13,119 --> 01:11:15,439
just no way that that he was
going to win and anything that. Even

1147
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:19,000
though I think CompuBox wise, which
again not official, de Laara was I

1148
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:25,159
guess had a few more landed punches, he did absolutely no damage. They

1149
01:11:25,159 --> 01:11:29,600
were just little amateur like jebs because
that's what he was. He was a

1150
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:31,680
at that time, he was a
gifted boxer. Look, he hadn't broken

1151
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:35,000
that amateur mole. I am already
I'm not going to send us down the

1152
01:11:35,039 --> 01:11:39,760
rabbit hole for ten more minutes,
but I'm already reflecting on last week's Consissau

1153
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:45,560
Oshaki Foster robbery of Foster. I'm
not saying that that this is different,

1154
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:48,399
but but like Consissau, didn't do
anything to win the fight. I'm not

1155
01:11:48,399 --> 01:11:51,920
going to go back and rewatch this
because I got other things to do.

1156
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:55,760
I'd rather watch Holyfield Kawi. But
I'm gonna take your word for it.

1157
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:58,840
If he's backpedaling the whole fight and
not putting up a whole lot of offense,

1158
01:11:59,319 --> 01:12:01,359
then you don't have a real legitimate
gripe that you somehow won seven or

1159
01:12:01,399 --> 01:12:05,439
eight rounds, and the other thing
about it was clear as day when Canelo

1160
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:11,119
landed, they were much much heavier
punches. And we talk about that all

1161
01:12:11,159 --> 01:12:14,640
the time. If my five aren't
the same as the ray as the ray

1162
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:17,199
field thunderous right hand, that the
thundering, you know, the thunder's right

1163
01:12:17,239 --> 01:12:21,560
hand landing three or four times can
outweigh ten or fifteen reeves flick tabs and

1164
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:27,000
my using my reach and my wiry
frame. So yes, and by the

1165
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:30,760
way, impact somewhat competitive. People
just have to deal with the fact that

1166
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:35,119
the guy that's the making the fight
and is the crowd favorite and is the

1167
01:12:35,159 --> 01:12:40,119
money guy. You put all that
shit together, and he was landing the

1168
01:12:40,159 --> 01:12:43,600
heavier shots is probably going to get
the benefit of the doubt, which he

1169
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:46,600
did and deservedly so. And Laura
went on to have a good career after

1170
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:50,439
that one titles and you know,
made some big fights and obviously was involved

1171
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:55,479
when his legs weren't what they were
the ninety fuckingalo years later against Jared Hurd

1172
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:58,600
in a in a loss, but
made the fight of the year. So

1173
01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:01,079
you know, I don't I'm not
I don't. I don't dislike Laura,

1174
01:13:01,359 --> 01:13:09,079
but on that night. Despite some
people's very vocal insistence on the fact that

1175
01:13:09,119 --> 01:13:14,079
Canello got a gift that night,
I would say that's not correct. All

1176
01:13:14,159 --> 01:13:17,079
right, one more piece of nostalgia
and I cannot. I don't want to

1177
01:13:17,079 --> 01:13:21,359
accept this. Fifteen years ago,
Arturo Gotti, who is your all time

1178
01:13:21,359 --> 01:13:25,199
favorite fighter. You've talked numerous times, and we've talked about this before on

1179
01:13:25,239 --> 01:13:29,960
the podcast. With the controversy around
his death. It's now fifteen years ago

1180
01:13:30,039 --> 01:13:32,880
Thursday, as we released the podcast
July eleventh, two thousand and nine,

1181
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:40,880
he was found dead in Brazil.
Mysterious circumstances with the with the ex wife

1182
01:13:42,199 --> 01:13:45,000
or with the girlfriend, whichever it
was. Did he really kill himself?

1183
01:13:45,279 --> 01:13:48,079
It was his wife, it was
a wife, But did he really kill

1184
01:13:48,159 --> 01:13:53,079
himself? And they, even if
I am not mistaken, they even continued

1185
01:13:53,079 --> 01:13:58,119
the investigation by exhuming the body and
doing another autopsy, trying to determine because

1186
01:13:58,159 --> 01:14:03,039
God, He's family believed was not
a suicide. Nefarious circumstances in Brazil,

1187
01:14:03,119 --> 01:14:05,479
But go ahead, yes, fifteen
years ago, yeah, I mean,

1188
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:10,199
listen, the circumstances of his death
are mysterious. I have always been in

1189
01:14:10,239 --> 01:14:13,199
the camp that does not believe he
killed himself, that there was some funny

1190
01:14:13,199 --> 01:14:16,800
business that the wife was involved.
And I say that based on what I

1191
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:18,840
have read, what I have heard, what I have seen, people I

1192
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:23,079
have talked to that knew him very
well, certainly a lot better than me.

1193
01:14:23,319 --> 01:14:27,159
But I also I also think about
the time that I the couple of

1194
01:14:27,159 --> 01:14:30,479
times I met the wife, and
I swear to god, I actually met

1195
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:34,640
her for the first time that one
of like Arturo's postfight parties in Atlantic City,

1196
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:38,279
and I said to somebody at the
time, they weren't married, they

1197
01:14:38,279 --> 01:14:41,399
were boyfriend girlfriend, they were they
had started dating. But I was introduced

1198
01:14:41,399 --> 01:14:44,119
to her obviously that you know,
seemed like it was serious. And I

1199
01:14:44,239 --> 01:14:46,159
turned to somebody that was there,
a boxing person, and I swear to

1200
01:14:46,159 --> 01:14:49,680
you, I said something to the
extent of like, she's not there's something

1201
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:54,600
off about her, Like I was
sort of like suspicious. Having met her

1202
01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:57,520
for like two minutes, I was
like, something did not sit right with

1203
01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:00,159
me about just Raypheel Antenna was up. So I was sort of like,

1204
01:15:00,199 --> 01:15:03,000
whatever. Now, now years I
do I do remember this. They did?

1205
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:09,640
They do. They did an extensive
HBO Real Sports like investigative segment.

1206
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:12,800
What a great show. That was
for so many years, and we don't

1207
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:15,520
have to get I'm just I'm more
than talking about the circums this I wanted

1208
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:18,800
to celebrate, I understand, But
just one one more quick thing. It

1209
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:24,079
is not conclusive, and they did
a great job. Go back and watch

1210
01:15:24,119 --> 01:15:29,239
it. That how he supposedly had
hanged himself is in question fifteen years later,

1211
01:15:29,359 --> 01:15:31,279
there is no doubt, all right. So also has no doubt is

1212
01:15:31,319 --> 01:15:34,399
that the Brazilian authorities and the way
they investigated and the way they handled the

1213
01:15:34,399 --> 01:15:38,479
scene did a very poor job.
That's one of the reason why there's loss

1214
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:43,159
disaster. But you want to say
one more time why he's your favorite fighter

1215
01:15:43,279 --> 01:15:45,640
on the on the anniversary of his
passing, Go, well, it's just

1216
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:48,479
that, you know, I've said
this before. You know, people want

1217
01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:51,319
to complain he's in the Hall of
fameus and that all I know is that

1218
01:15:51,399 --> 01:15:55,279
in my time of covering boxing,
I don't think there's ever been a fighter

1219
01:15:55,840 --> 01:16:00,119
that emotionally had an attachment to his
fans and vice versa more so than ar

1220
01:16:00,159 --> 01:16:04,399
Tururo got And that includes Tyson and
pak yeah, and and and and plenty

1221
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:09,239
of other great fighters. Canelo and
you know, Floyd Mayweather pick pick your

1222
01:16:09,359 --> 01:16:13,239
pick, your top star. That
the passion that the people felt for him,

1223
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:16,520
that when you went to a Gaddy
fight, it was the experience,

1224
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:20,960
was the whole weekend of being in
the boardwalk hall, of of the love

1225
01:16:21,039 --> 01:16:25,640
from the fans, whoever the opponent
was, uh, you know, whether

1226
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:29,479
it was Mickey or somebody you never
heard of. Uh. And he always

1227
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:32,279
gave you your money's worth, win
or lose. He was that type of

1228
01:16:32,279 --> 01:16:36,079
fighter where you know, I say
this to you before, if you ask

1229
01:16:36,399 --> 01:16:40,760
a boxing fan, they will have
to stop and think. If I said,

1230
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:43,560
you will who won the first Gatty
Word fight, who won the second

1231
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:45,960
fight? Who? You know?
They'll know he won the third fight because

1232
01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:47,680
they know he won the trilogy.
But there's not like you have to think

1233
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:49,960
for a second, like what the
outcome was. And the reason why is

1234
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:55,760
because it didn't matter. There was
such an awesome fight that the result was

1235
01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:59,399
almost irrelevant. Uh. And And
by the way, ur Turro had again

1236
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:02,560
win or lose, probably about seven
legitimate Fight of the Year candidates. He

1237
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:05,319
ended up was in the Fight of
the Year on numerous occasions. But he

1238
01:17:05,399 --> 01:17:09,079
had so many tremendous fights, and
by the way, a lot of those

1239
01:17:09,119 --> 01:17:14,239
great fights were even befre He had
already a litany of incredible fights before he

1240
01:17:14,279 --> 01:17:16,800
ever swapped one punch with Mickey Ward
in their first fight in two thousand and

1241
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:18,920
two. I mean, if you
go back and think about some of the

1242
01:17:19,199 --> 01:17:24,479
amazing fights this guy had, you
know, there's there's the to me.

1243
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:30,520
Anyway, My all time greatest Gaddy
fight, not Mickey Ward opponent, was

1244
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:32,920
his first title defense at one hundred
and thirty pounds, when he fought at

1245
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:38,159
the Madison Square Guarden Theater and had
an absolute spectacular comeback and a brutal,

1246
01:17:38,279 --> 01:17:42,560
grinding fight against Wilson Rodriguez, and
he knocked him on in the sixth round

1247
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:45,560
with like a spectacular shot. That
was the fight where if you ever watched

1248
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:48,119
the HBO broadcast, you see the
doctor go to the talk. You've talked

1249
01:17:48,159 --> 01:17:50,800
to us right about it. Yeah, So I don't remember what round it

1250
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:55,640
was. The doctor's checking his eye, so got his eyes like basically closed,

1251
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:58,720
and he's like, how many things
he's put your hand over your eye

1252
01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:00,520
or he put his hand over the
eye, how man fingers that I have

1253
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:02,079
up? And God is like I'm
fine, I'm fine, And he's like

1254
01:18:02,159 --> 01:18:05,880
tell me or I'm going to call
the fight. Gaddy guessed then that he

1255
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:10,439
had whatever it was, one or
two fingers up there right, so as

1256
01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:14,760
the as the legend goes, he
couldn't see Joe Susa, the late great

1257
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:18,000
cutman that saved Gaddy's career on more
than one occasion by keeping the swelling down

1258
01:18:18,199 --> 01:18:24,800
and allowing him to continue fighting and
stopping cuts. Padded Gaddy twice to tell

1259
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:29,119
him it was two fingers, and
he gets too like the uh, like

1260
01:18:29,199 --> 01:18:32,359
the baseball stealing of the signs here
comes the fast exact. But hey,

1261
01:18:32,399 --> 01:18:35,119
it worked and then he and then
he scored the knockout. And you've told

1262
01:18:35,159 --> 01:18:38,720
us about that as well. So
YouTube that fight up as well. And

1263
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:42,000
also you go through your you look
up the Gabriel Roveellas fight Fight of the

1264
01:18:42,039 --> 01:18:45,279
Year in nineteen ninety seven losses and
great fights against Ivan Robinson twice as the

1265
01:18:45,279 --> 01:18:50,920
spectacular those are underrated. Bathroom or
bathroom matt stand right next to each other,

1266
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:55,079
beat the daylights out of each other
fights as well with Daddy and Robinson.

1267
01:18:55,319 --> 01:18:58,760
So the ninety seven fight of the
year, uh that that was our

1268
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:00,720
ninety six rather was the from Ariguez
fight, arguably the Fight of the Year,

1269
01:19:01,239 --> 01:19:04,279
and then you go to the fights
against Ivan Robinson that was the Ring

1270
01:19:04,359 --> 01:19:08,159
Magazine voted the ninety eight fight of
the Year, upset of the year.

1271
01:19:08,159 --> 01:19:11,880
He could have won that fight.
It was very close split decision. Lost

1272
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:15,159
the rematch also lost on Cutstar Angel
Man Freddy and like kind of a grudge

1273
01:19:15,159 --> 01:19:16,880
match, another terrific fight. He
has gone down the line. Even the

1274
01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:19,680
Daily Quay fight where he got beat
up was a very exciting fight. Then

1275
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:23,319
he comes back after that, he
has the three Mickey Ward fights, and

1276
01:19:23,359 --> 01:19:25,439
then he has the GM Luca Bronco
fight, which to me is one of

1277
01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:28,399
the most underrated fights in his career. That was a sensational fight where he

1278
01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:30,800
won a decision. He ended up
winning another title at one hundred and forty

1279
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:33,359
pounds sports some big knockouts, and
then obviously met you know, the match

1280
01:19:33,399 --> 01:19:38,079
against Floyd Mayweather, who just you
know, he was completely outclassed by.

1281
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:44,199
But this guy had such a memorable
career, like to me, the great

1282
01:19:44,199 --> 01:19:46,560
If you said to me, Rayfhael, you can go back and of all

1283
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:53,319
your time covering boxing, you can
go back and re experience one thing I

1284
01:19:53,359 --> 01:19:56,399
would pick. Let me go to
and I would you could pick the fight.

1285
01:19:56,800 --> 01:20:01,439
Put me in Boardwalk Hall on Saturday
night and in the pre fight of

1286
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:05,760
an artural Gotti fight hit the music
of Thunderstruck, and I would be loving

1287
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:10,319
to experience that again, to be
with all those great fans who just showed

1288
01:20:10,359 --> 01:20:14,119
that love and see Gotti come into
the ring. It was like a religious

1289
01:20:14,159 --> 01:20:16,319
experience. I can't explain it any
other way. I love it. It's

1290
01:20:16,319 --> 01:20:19,079
a shame. And I know you
mentioned Alexis Arguayo all the way back at

1291
01:20:19,079 --> 01:20:24,399
the beginning of the podcast. This
this time frame is awful on the remember

1292
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:29,439
remembrances of Argueyo taking his life and
Vernon Florest being murdered in a in a

1293
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:32,359
robbery gone wrong where he chased the
robbers. All of that happened right around

1294
01:20:32,399 --> 01:20:36,199
now, right around the same right
around the same anniversary is coming up in

1295
01:20:36,319 --> 01:20:40,319
like a week. Yeah, and
all of that around the same time.

1296
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:44,960
Uh wow. So on this on
this time frame, so ar Turo Gotti

1297
01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:48,079
rip, great fighter. Rayphiel loves
him. Man. We have covered a

1298
01:20:48,159 --> 01:20:53,199
bunch in the preview mode again.
Uh, going all the way back to

1299
01:20:53,239 --> 01:20:57,680
the beginning of the program, Chacola
Tito Friday Night in Action on ESPN Plus

1300
01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:02,760
non title fight Boots and US on
Zone in Philadelphia in his hometown, will

1301
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:09,279
defend the IBF World Welterweight title fight
he's been elevated. And then the Saturday

1302
01:21:09,319 --> 01:21:12,960
night at Las Vegas card. Keep
an eye on Jannabeck with two of the

1303
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:16,319
belts at middleweight, bigger fights,
maybe ahead title defense for him. We

1304
01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:19,800
previewed all of those. You heard
from Amanda Serrano. You got news in

1305
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:24,239
nostalgia. What do you say?
We handicap some boxing on the bet Us

1306
01:21:24,319 --> 01:21:28,319
Boxing Show Friday one Eastern time.
We've been rocking along. Thank you to

1307
01:21:28,359 --> 01:21:32,479
the audience crossing over audience finding us
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01:21:33,039 --> 01:21:38,039
and audience off of that bet Us
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Fight Weekend podcast feed. So thank
you for that. Make sure you're following,

1310
01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:44,319
make sure you're subscribing. But brother
Rayfield, why don't we reconvene on

1311
01:21:44,399 --> 01:21:47,199
Friday one Eastern time and handicap these
main events, the NS fight, the

1312
01:21:47,279 --> 01:21:53,279
Janabeck fight, etc. Sound good, sounds good, bro, Lots of

1313
01:21:53,279 --> 01:21:56,560
good stuff here. Make sure that
you're also with us. Whatever happens will

1314
01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:59,720
recap off for weekend with the fight
Preaching Night Recap podcast, so you get

1315
01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:02,720
two ray Fields each and every weekend. We'll do that coming up. For

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01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:05,560
now, we are good. It's
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01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:09,000
on TJ Reeves. Enjoy all the
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