WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:05.879 You. Chilly Effect is sponsored by Wallstreet, Window dot Com and listeners like 2 00:00:05.960 --> 00:00:17.120 you, Yeah Yeah and Omedia Cha December twenty four, of twenty twenty three. 3 00:00:17.239 --> 00:00:21.120 Allegedly, according to that thing we call a calendar, and this is 4 00:00:21.120 --> 00:00:23.760 indeed the show you're looking for. Now, how do I know that? 5 00:00:24.320 --> 00:00:28.160 Cause you're hearing me say what I'm saying. You know what I forgot to 6 00:00:28.239 --> 00:00:33.320 do is start the recording on the video. But you're hearing us live on 7 00:00:33.399 --> 00:00:37.759 the audio stream, So it is what it is? Okay. Uh, 8 00:00:38.159 --> 00:00:41.880 let's see. Yeah, it is what it is tonight and you're hearing us 9 00:00:41.880 --> 00:00:46.600 live on audio. But let's see where are you? It should have started 10 00:00:48.640 --> 00:00:53.200 all right? Well, coming call change background? Blah blah. Why is 11 00:00:53.240 --> 00:00:56.640 it not doing the record? Oh there it is. There's my record button, 12 00:00:57.439 --> 00:01:02.560 and now it'll probably notify T who is my guest, that he's being 13 00:01:02.600 --> 00:01:07.000 recorded anyway, So that is happening on the video. But we started the 14 00:01:07.040 --> 00:01:11.560 audio already. I gave the date blah blah. So there's the recap. 15 00:01:11.719 --> 00:01:14.879 Okay, So it's Sunday. I'm not supposed to be live on a Sunday. 16 00:01:15.519 --> 00:01:17.680 And no, I don't have a clever thing to add into there. 17 00:01:17.719 --> 00:01:19.239 You know, it's not Moonday, it's not Tearsday, it's not Widenes Day, 18 00:01:19.280 --> 00:01:23.680 it's not the Thursday. It is literally Sunday. Because check your esoteric 19 00:01:23.760 --> 00:01:26.920 meanings for the calendar. It is what it is. But I'm live with 20 00:01:27.000 --> 00:01:32.519 T Snyder, who is the guy behind guess what conspiracy Synergy. If you 21 00:01:32.560 --> 00:01:38.439 go to conspiracy synergy dot com, there is a usually video presentation that quite 22 00:01:38.519 --> 00:01:45.760 honestly defies practical description. He's included me in a couple of presentations, but 23 00:01:46.280 --> 00:01:56.439 his trains of thought and his rather entertaining presentations again defy conventional explanation. Okay, 24 00:01:56.840 --> 00:02:00.560 now I've run into him on places like the Union of the Unwanted. 25 00:02:00.560 --> 00:02:02.400 As a matter of fact, this past Monday, I think it was I 26 00:02:02.439 --> 00:02:07.000 was on there with him, and what did we end up talking about? 27 00:02:07.400 --> 00:02:09.599 The usual suspects, the usual this and that. And if you're on the 28 00:02:09.680 --> 00:02:14.120 video stream, you're probably wondering why you're not getting a look at my face 29 00:02:14.159 --> 00:02:17.080 for radio. But perhaps we'll explain that as we go, and perhaps we 30 00:02:17.120 --> 00:02:23.240 won't anyway, tease. Thank you for joining me on a Sunday at Christmas 31 00:02:23.319 --> 00:02:28.159 Eve. A weird day, but you're an unusual guy, so I needed 32 00:02:28.159 --> 00:02:30.400 to have you on an unusual day and do it in an unusual way. 33 00:02:30.680 --> 00:02:34.759 How are you tonight, Sah, I'm doing well, Chuck. Thanks for 34 00:02:34.800 --> 00:02:38.520 having me on. Man. Like I said, I kind of encountered you 35 00:02:38.919 --> 00:02:46.000 sort of in the rock Fin universe. You know of people that all of 36 00:02:46.039 --> 00:02:49.439 a sudden joined Rock Finn all at once, And I had not seen your 37 00:02:49.439 --> 00:02:54.240 work before. And how long have you been doing Conspiracy Synergy? Conspiracy Synergy 38 00:02:54.240 --> 00:02:58.479 I've been working on now for I think about four years. Prior to the 39 00:02:58.520 --> 00:03:05.479 point of the pandemic, I'd already been gravitating in the direction of the larger 40 00:03:05.560 --> 00:03:08.879 construction that is the show. But the first two episodes were recorded prior to 41 00:03:09.120 --> 00:03:15.639 the thing that we call a pandemic that wasn't actually a pandemic, and then 42 00:03:15.680 --> 00:03:20.520 I just kept it going ever since because this agenda isn't going away. It's 43 00:03:20.680 --> 00:03:23.479 ramping up every day, and I've been working on it for the last four 44 00:03:23.560 --> 00:03:28.879 years straight. So to read somebody in on you quickly, we'd have to 45 00:03:28.919 --> 00:03:32.960 say that you're not a mainstream kind of guy. You're definitely not the old 46 00:03:32.960 --> 00:03:38.439 school alternative media guy. You have gone into video because you know, look 47 00:03:38.479 --> 00:03:43.439 your audio is good too, but video seems to be your main thrust, 48 00:03:43.639 --> 00:03:49.360 and you are about entertaining people while provoking thought. That's about the best I 49 00:03:49.400 --> 00:03:53.120 can come up with as far as what the design is. But what was 50 00:03:53.159 --> 00:03:57.879 the mission statement of Conspiracy Synergy when you started as far as Okay, I'm 51 00:03:57.879 --> 00:04:01.879 going to do this this way because it's my spin, my version of God 52 00:04:01.919 --> 00:04:05.400 help me. I still have to use this phrase, the alternative media, 53 00:04:05.479 --> 00:04:11.360 so to speak. Yeah, So it's one of those things where I've I'm 54 00:04:12.439 --> 00:04:16.680 so going way back, like I first got red pilled by nine to eleven 55 00:04:16.720 --> 00:04:23.040 Truth, and I've been an activist and I've been following the community for about 56 00:04:23.079 --> 00:04:28.800 fifteen years, and so I haven't been at the forefront of being a part 57 00:04:28.839 --> 00:04:34.040 of the conversation on air, but I have made films and relevant contra contributions 58 00:04:34.040 --> 00:04:40.720 in different ways. I met Richard Grove through the short film that i'd made 59 00:04:40.720 --> 00:04:45.560 called Blindfold, which centers on nine to eleven Truth. And all of my 60 00:04:45.680 --> 00:04:50.000 work is centered around controversy and the use of art as a way of broaching 61 00:04:50.040 --> 00:04:54.920 conversations about controversy, because a lot of the time, if you're just talking 62 00:04:54.959 --> 00:05:00.120 about the information that's controversial, it's too painful for people to be able to 63 00:05:00.199 --> 00:05:04.839 approach, let alone digest, let alone reach a point where they're able to 64 00:05:04.879 --> 00:05:10.439 integrate that into their understanding and then move forward off as a better person. 65 00:05:10.720 --> 00:05:15.439 So the entire premise of Conspiracy Synergy is, how can I get a presentation 66 00:05:15.560 --> 00:05:23.519 together that's basically crafted for people who are not necessarily well versed in the truth 67 00:05:23.560 --> 00:05:29.560 movement and make it entertaining and funny and engaging enough where you can very quickly 68 00:05:29.600 --> 00:05:33.439 read pill people, make it emotionally palatable, and then give them the resources 69 00:05:33.439 --> 00:05:36.600 that they need through the show notes and the references and the introduction to all 70 00:05:36.680 --> 00:05:41.199 kinds of people in the alternative media, so that it becomes almost like a 71 00:05:41.240 --> 00:05:45.240 trailer for the entire truth movement. And when I say trailer, that's still 72 00:05:45.600 --> 00:05:49.519 something like ten hours, but that's four years of work to make ten hours 73 00:05:49.920 --> 00:05:55.000 of video. And that's kind of the idea is how can I create a 74 00:05:55.040 --> 00:06:00.959 tool for people to get very quickly educated on the truth, not conspiracy theory, 75 00:06:00.040 --> 00:06:06.240 conspiracy fact and then get them moving forward once again, just because until 76 00:06:06.279 --> 00:06:09.920 we get people up to speed on some of the basics, we're going to 77 00:06:10.000 --> 00:06:14.480 keep stumbling over the same tripping blocks which have basically been set up for us, 78 00:06:15.199 --> 00:06:18.160 right, And this is an interesting time period because this reminds me very 79 00:06:18.279 --> 00:06:23.360 much of the conversations I had going back and forth with James Corbett when he 80 00:06:23.439 --> 00:06:29.160 started what he was doing, because now he's obviously a more serious, you 81 00:06:29.199 --> 00:06:33.399 know, very dry kind of guy, direct not so much of the Occasionally 82 00:06:33.399 --> 00:06:38.839 there's comedy in with James's stuff, but reality is the majority of what he 83 00:06:38.879 --> 00:06:41.920 did, and especially what he started with to begin with. I mean, 84 00:06:41.959 --> 00:06:46.360 at one point he was literally playing the audio of documentaries that moved him, 85 00:06:46.399 --> 00:06:53.319 independent audio documentaries and doing that as one of his podcasts to literally sort of 86 00:06:53.439 --> 00:06:58.800 introduce people in with his commentary, to get him to go watch something that 87 00:06:58.879 --> 00:07:03.040 he thought was loaded with information, and again loading the show notes like you 88 00:07:03.120 --> 00:07:08.879 describe in almost the same I hate to use it, but I mean the 89 00:07:08.920 --> 00:07:15.759 same strategic fashion, right to sort of expose somebody who might be completely unaware 90 00:07:15.920 --> 00:07:23.680 that there's something outside of the standardized version, right, the high school history 91 00:07:23.800 --> 00:07:27.959 version of events. Like I point out the JFK thing I've done a lot 92 00:07:27.959 --> 00:07:30.920 of work on, and I love pointing out what was in my very outdated 93 00:07:30.959 --> 00:07:34.519 history book when I was still in school in the nineteen nine, well, 94 00:07:34.600 --> 00:07:40.000 the very early nineties, and in the eighties I graduated ninety one, so 95 00:07:40.240 --> 00:07:42.879 yeah, ninety ninety one, I was still in school. But either way, 96 00:07:43.040 --> 00:07:48.199 the most recent sort of historical reference on the JFK thing boiled down to 97 00:07:48.240 --> 00:07:53.000 two or three sentences. And those two or three sentences were, you know, 98 00:07:53.079 --> 00:07:56.319 the president was killed in Dallas, Texas on this date. This is 99 00:07:56.399 --> 00:07:59.720 the guy who is supposed to have done it. He did it from here 100 00:07:59.800 --> 00:08:03.319 in dely Plaza. Moving on. That was it, you know, the 101 00:08:03.639 --> 00:08:09.040 Warren Commission's essential, and not even the entire conclusion of the Warren Commission, 102 00:08:09.360 --> 00:08:13.120 but a vague reference to what the Warren Commission concluded, and that's it. 103 00:08:13.160 --> 00:08:16.639 Maybe a photograph of John F. Kennedy. And oh, by the way, 104 00:08:16.680 --> 00:08:18.560 the guy was president. Now, if you want to hear about the 105 00:08:18.639 --> 00:08:22.800 Cuban missile crisis, we got two pages for you a little later in the 106 00:08:22.800 --> 00:08:26.199 book. But that's it. And you know, on the brink of nuclear 107 00:08:26.240 --> 00:08:31.000 war, two pages, two sentences for his death and no more need be 108 00:08:31.079 --> 00:08:35.240 said because we've already solved the crime, and don't worry about it. Despite 109 00:08:35.320 --> 00:08:39.360 the fact that there were investigations after that time period and everything else, And 110 00:08:39.960 --> 00:08:41.799 anyway, I don't want to delve into that. I'm just saying that that 111 00:08:43.240 --> 00:08:46.639 is a true representation. Even when they talked about the organization of the Federal 112 00:08:46.679 --> 00:08:52.080 Reserve, say in the upper level history classes in high school, it was 113 00:08:52.200 --> 00:08:56.960 like, yeah, this came into being moving on, you know, like 114 00:08:56.159 --> 00:09:01.480 that's all there was to it. No history about the other two, you 115 00:09:01.519 --> 00:09:05.679 know, attempts at a centralized bank, No history about how this was, 116 00:09:05.759 --> 00:09:07.799 you know, maybe written in the dead of night by people who shouldn't have 117 00:09:07.799 --> 00:09:11.679 been writing things like this. Nothing about Jekyl Island, for God's sake. 118 00:09:13.399 --> 00:09:18.559 No g Edward Griffin in my history book for sure. But anyway, that's 119 00:09:18.600 --> 00:09:20.399 not the point. The point is that you got to bridge that gap. 120 00:09:20.919 --> 00:09:24.799 Now, once you've done that, and you've sort of been that bridge, 121 00:09:24.840 --> 00:09:30.879 which in my estimation some of the more corporate elements out there have also been 122 00:09:30.879 --> 00:09:33.039 working at doing that. You're coast to coast ams, you know, your 123 00:09:33.080 --> 00:09:37.600 Clyde Lewis's people like that who have kind of been out there on the acceptable 124 00:09:37.679 --> 00:09:43.679 fringe, if you will, of the media introducing these ideas and letting certain 125 00:09:43.720 --> 00:09:46.759 things leak out as far as the history and what you might want to question 126 00:09:46.919 --> 00:09:52.720 as current events unfold, there's yet another problem here, and it's the Internet 127 00:09:52.720 --> 00:10:01.039 age problem right where you are confronted with a million possibilities, a opinions, 128 00:10:01.639 --> 00:10:07.440 but maybe not so much information anymore. Which is this odd sort of shift 129 00:10:07.480 --> 00:10:09.279 that happened. I mean, we could talk about how the media evolved in 130 00:10:09.320 --> 00:10:15.879 and of itself and went from the days of terrestrial radio and shortwave and your 131 00:10:16.000 --> 00:10:20.360 local what they used to call those cable access shows, etc. And evolved 132 00:10:20.399 --> 00:10:26.919 into this other thing where message boards grew and the necessity for podcasting, which, 133 00:10:26.960 --> 00:10:28.879 by the way, all these corporate outlets ought to thank a whole lot 134 00:10:28.919 --> 00:10:33.360 of people who were out there struggling and doing it for themselves before it was 135 00:10:33.399 --> 00:10:39.120 even called a podcast, to transmit ideas through media that was now accessible literally 136 00:10:39.159 --> 00:10:43.240 worldwide. Because that's the interesting thing, Like right now you and I are 137 00:10:43.279 --> 00:10:48.440 on a live stream effectively a radio station that anyone in the world, if 138 00:10:48.440 --> 00:10:52.799 they wanted to, could access it. It's not like they need a subscription, 139 00:10:52.919 --> 00:10:56.600 they just need access to the Internet and know how to find it. 140 00:10:56.240 --> 00:11:01.159 And we could be broadcasting to millions of people we wanted to, or if 141 00:11:01.440 --> 00:11:05.559 we could get that sort of reach. It is possible. It's right there, 142 00:11:05.720 --> 00:11:09.480 it's out in the open. We don't even need to buy another piece 143 00:11:09.480 --> 00:11:11.200 of equipment, you know, if they've got a computer or a phone already, 144 00:11:13.120 --> 00:11:16.159 it's built in. And most people don't realize that almost anyone in the 145 00:11:16.200 --> 00:11:22.519 world now has this ability to create a broadcast situation where they could be heard 146 00:11:22.600 --> 00:11:28.679 literally worldwide. Like, for instance, I can tell you that sometimes there 147 00:11:28.759 --> 00:11:33.480 is a pub in Germany which somehow turns on my little online radio station and 148 00:11:33.559 --> 00:11:37.080 leaves it on for weeks. So every time they open and close their doors, 149 00:11:37.120 --> 00:11:41.759 the background playing in this pub is the o'ceelly dot com radio network, 150 00:11:41.840 --> 00:11:48.120 right, And I'm broadcasting in Germany. You know, I don't speak German, 151 00:11:48.759 --> 00:11:52.679 and I have no idea who does that. But I got finally word 152 00:11:52.759 --> 00:11:56.320 that that's something that happens, and people could access your videos from anywhere. 153 00:11:56.320 --> 00:12:01.159 Now YouTube has become a restrictive thing, said, etc. I'm kicked off 154 00:12:01.200 --> 00:12:03.200 of it, so you can't find me there unless other people have posted my 155 00:12:03.240 --> 00:12:07.639 stuff. But I mean the idea that all of this evolved and we got 156 00:12:07.679 --> 00:12:13.600 to this point where conspiracy synergy is something that in the old days you might 157 00:12:13.600 --> 00:12:16.759 have been able to create in your garage, and some people that are still 158 00:12:16.799 --> 00:12:22.559 you know, part of the information movement out there did in fact begin with 159 00:12:22.720 --> 00:12:26.519 videotapes and things in their garage. And while you were talking about being an 160 00:12:26.559 --> 00:12:28.240 activist, I was saying to myself, well, you know, as an 161 00:12:28.279 --> 00:12:33.000 activist, my biggest things on the street level was going out and handing out 162 00:12:33.080 --> 00:12:37.919 DVDs, which was another part of the evolution. At what part, by 163 00:12:37.960 --> 00:12:43.799 the way, did you join into activism and become part of the Well again, 164 00:12:43.879 --> 00:12:46.639 I don't want to borrow phrases from jonestown over there, but I mean, 165 00:12:46.879 --> 00:12:52.960 factually, when did you join into the fray as far as I'm going 166 00:12:52.000 --> 00:12:58.159 to now be part of the movement to really inform people what time period is 167 00:12:58.200 --> 00:13:03.120 that, because that actually shapes what you had access to, what the landscape 168 00:13:03.200 --> 00:13:07.600 was like, what the availability of the technology was like. So when do 169 00:13:07.639 --> 00:13:09.240 you come in, Like, you know, not to date yourself exactly, 170 00:13:09.279 --> 00:13:15.559 but yeah, you started doing a conspiracy synergy four years ago, but just 171 00:13:15.559 --> 00:13:18.120 just like me, I mean I started my trek with JFK thirty something years 172 00:13:18.159 --> 00:13:24.480 ago, and you know, I was communicating with the alternative media people for 173 00:13:24.639 --> 00:13:26.840 years trying to help them out with you know, you're doing a bad presentation 174 00:13:26.919 --> 00:13:31.519 on JFK. And after a while, you know, Jack Blood, James 175 00:13:31.519 --> 00:13:33.919 Corbett, a bunch of those guys said, you know, man, all 176 00:13:33.919 --> 00:13:35.840 this stuff you're telling us about a show, why don't you go do it 177 00:13:35.840 --> 00:13:41.000 your damn self? And so I did. So how did you actually go 178 00:13:41.120 --> 00:13:43.879 from I've got these ideas I'm an activist. I mean, tell me about 179 00:13:43.879 --> 00:13:50.840 how that marches into I'm going to be an active information distributor basically. Yeah. 180 00:13:50.879 --> 00:13:56.320 Sure. So I'm a writer. Originally I started writing my first book 181 00:13:56.320 --> 00:14:01.320 at ten years old. I've written I'm all my eleventh now five of them 182 00:14:01.320 --> 00:14:03.480 are crap and they'll never see the light of days, and I just self 183 00:14:03.480 --> 00:14:07.200 publish them because the publishing industry is basically just there to cater to demographics and 184 00:14:07.240 --> 00:14:13.639 then disproportionately pigeonhole people in a way where they aren't necessarily to have the control 185 00:14:13.679 --> 00:14:16.279 that they want. So it's something that I gravitated towards was the idea of 186 00:14:16.279 --> 00:14:20.159 being completely independent, and then that lended itself very much to my filmmaking as 187 00:14:20.200 --> 00:14:22.879 well. So I went to film school in New York and I went there 188 00:14:22.919 --> 00:14:26.600 specifically in order to create a short film called Blindfold. And what Blindfold is 189 00:14:26.600 --> 00:14:31.519 is it's a story of a nine to eleven widower father and his preteen daughter 190 00:14:31.679 --> 00:14:35.879 as they come to reconcile the emotional devastation of what that event caused their family, 191 00:14:35.919 --> 00:14:39.240 specifically because the daughter is starting to get into nine to eleven truth and 192 00:14:39.279 --> 00:14:43.159 she presents a printation about that to her class and she ultimately ends up being 193 00:14:43.200 --> 00:14:48.200 sued for it. So it's a way of using a narrative story to talk 194 00:14:48.320 --> 00:14:52.519 about the emotional threads that apply to everybody. And that's always been my approach. 195 00:14:52.600 --> 00:14:56.480 So that's something where I was protesting at the same period of time when 196 00:14:56.519 --> 00:14:58.039 I was going to film school in New York. And what I do to 197 00:14:58.080 --> 00:15:03.080 protest is I where an American flag is a blindfold while wearing a shirt that 198 00:15:03.120 --> 00:15:05.919 says nine to eleven was an inside job. And then I'd stand at ground 199 00:15:05.080 --> 00:15:09.799 zero for between six to eight hours on my own, just holding out cards 200 00:15:09.919 --> 00:15:13.440 or DVDs for people to take at their leisure, and depending on which year 201 00:15:13.480 --> 00:15:18.720 I was doing, that ultimately determined the magnitude of the response from the civilian 202 00:15:18.720 --> 00:15:22.519 population. To give you an appropriate representation of that. The first year that 203 00:15:22.559 --> 00:15:26.799 I did it, they had allocated a long stretch of wall adjacent to ground 204 00:15:26.879 --> 00:15:28.679 zero that the people who were there to protest for nine to eleven Truth were 205 00:15:28.679 --> 00:15:31.840 able to rally around and they'd go off in march. I just stay there 206 00:15:31.840 --> 00:15:37.320 by myself. I was only able to get about maybe forty or fifty cards 207 00:15:37.320 --> 00:15:41.759 distributed the entire day, and it was kind of discouraging because it wasn't something 208 00:15:41.759 --> 00:15:46.120 that people were really big on, and that was partly associated with the crowd 209 00:15:46.159 --> 00:15:50.559 and the marching and the very somber tone surrounding the idea of discussing the truth 210 00:15:50.559 --> 00:15:54.120 at that window in time. Now, the next year, I was there 211 00:15:54.159 --> 00:15:58.759 by myself and there wasn't a large crowd around me. Wear an American flag 212 00:15:58.799 --> 00:16:02.799 is a blindfold shirt that says nine to eleven was an inside job, holding 213 00:16:02.840 --> 00:16:04.919 bright orange DVDs in front of my face, and what those DVDs were were 214 00:16:06.000 --> 00:16:11.720 architects and engineers blueprint for destruction. And within five minutes that day I got 215 00:16:11.799 --> 00:16:15.919 rid of over one hundred DVDs. And that speaks to the power of how 216 00:16:17.039 --> 00:16:23.120 artistic representation at important windows of time can actually be extraordinarily successful in distributing information 217 00:16:23.159 --> 00:16:26.000 that people want, and not only were people taking those DVDs, they were 218 00:16:26.039 --> 00:16:30.960 thanking me in a heartbelt way for them. Now, moving forward past that 219 00:16:30.440 --> 00:16:34.360 the NYPD started to clamp down, you were no longer given access to the 220 00:16:34.399 --> 00:16:37.039 site in the way that we were before. We were pushed further and further 221 00:16:37.120 --> 00:16:41.840 away. I have a video recording from the tenth anniversary where they were calling 222 00:16:41.840 --> 00:16:47.639 in fake terrorist threats and we're being led off site by about three or four 223 00:16:47.679 --> 00:16:51.120 blocks to a contained pen that we were then put in and told that we 224 00:16:51.120 --> 00:16:55.480 were only able to leave if we removed our shirts and things that made it 225 00:16:55.480 --> 00:16:59.200 clear that we weren't willing to buy the official story now, and that really 226 00:16:59.240 --> 00:17:02.559 really quick. Yet it sounds like you and I were there during the same 227 00:17:02.559 --> 00:17:04.680 time period. We could have run into each other, because this it directly 228 00:17:04.720 --> 00:17:10.200 sounds like between two thousand and eight and twenty twelve, which is exactly when 229 00:17:10.240 --> 00:17:15.119 I was doing similar stuff in Jersey and going to New York because I lived 230 00:17:15.200 --> 00:17:18.640 in New Jersey at the time. But I was going over there at eight 231 00:17:18.640 --> 00:17:22.720 o nine different times, not even necessarily around the anniversary. But that progressive 232 00:17:22.839 --> 00:17:27.880 crackdown started to happen apparently exactly around the time that I got motivated to start 233 00:17:27.920 --> 00:17:32.640 going out there and really asking questions. At that time, I didn't have 234 00:17:32.680 --> 00:17:37.240 a particular statement I was making, but I was handing out other people's DVDs 235 00:17:37.319 --> 00:17:41.440 because we had friends that were cooperating with us, that were buying in bulk. 236 00:17:41.680 --> 00:17:44.640 We were putting these things out and putting out of our own pockets, 237 00:17:44.680 --> 00:17:48.039 buying them for you know, a dollar or two dollars or two per a 238 00:17:48.119 --> 00:17:52.240 dollar from friends, and in some cases we had them with the magic marker, 239 00:17:52.279 --> 00:17:53.880 and in other cases, you know, we had somebody who would plump 240 00:17:53.920 --> 00:17:57.160 down the money, so we actually got the printed, you know, DVDs 241 00:17:57.200 --> 00:18:03.160 and handing them out in either jewel cases or paper sleeves. And that's between 242 00:18:03.359 --> 00:18:07.759 eight and twenty twelve. Is that the time period you're talking about, because 243 00:18:07.759 --> 00:18:11.319 that's when I was Yeah. So I did the Brand of protests four different 244 00:18:11.400 --> 00:18:15.079 years. I believe it was the eighth, ninth, tenth, and eleventh 245 00:18:15.079 --> 00:18:19.240 anniversaries of nine to eleven. And so the last year that I did it, 246 00:18:19.319 --> 00:18:23.319 I mean I just got arrested. They gave me a pink slip. 247 00:18:23.359 --> 00:18:26.240 I didn't do anything wrong. They were just looking to hassle me because of 248 00:18:26.279 --> 00:18:32.880 the NYPD is a criminal cartel and they're very good at trying to basically shake 249 00:18:33.119 --> 00:18:37.799 the cattle population for what they need to be able to pay their bills and 250 00:18:37.920 --> 00:18:40.559 inflate the bureaucracy. So it was one of those things where it was an 251 00:18:40.599 --> 00:18:45.559 incremental clap down, and it discouraged people's ability to be able to be on 252 00:18:45.319 --> 00:18:51.200 site and bring people's eyes to the attention of what they needed to be looking 253 00:18:51.240 --> 00:18:56.119 at. And it's been really difficult ever since I was living in New York 254 00:18:56.119 --> 00:18:59.240 briefly in that period of time to go to film school. But it was 255 00:18:59.279 --> 00:19:02.160 one of those things where I eventually realized that, you know, it caused 256 00:19:02.160 --> 00:19:04.720 me a fortune to do it, you get very little support, people threatened 257 00:19:04.720 --> 00:19:07.839 to kill you. It's kind of just one of those really discouraging things. 258 00:19:08.160 --> 00:19:11.039 And back in that window of time, people were much less open to these 259 00:19:11.119 --> 00:19:15.240 kind of discussions than they are now. Right, And here's the deal about 260 00:19:15.240 --> 00:19:17.920 this too, is that when they were sweeping you up and arresting you, 261 00:19:18.039 --> 00:19:22.000 it wasn't really about anything you did per se. They would come up with 262 00:19:22.039 --> 00:19:25.960 an excuse or they turn around and say that you had done something like litter 263 00:19:26.079 --> 00:19:30.359 or whatever. But the whole thing was they were just detaining you to hassle 264 00:19:30.400 --> 00:19:34.680 you, to impede what it was you were doing. And some guys tried 265 00:19:34.680 --> 00:19:37.720 to get slick and walk around, you know without the nine to eleven is 266 00:19:37.759 --> 00:19:41.720 an inside job black T shirts, and they would still get caught up. 267 00:19:41.839 --> 00:19:45.000 You know. By the time we get to twenty twelve, it was catch 268 00:19:45.000 --> 00:19:49.279 and release in New York City to try and slow us down, which was 269 00:19:49.359 --> 00:19:53.680 kind of amazing. It was like a strategic move that we saw happen in 270 00:19:53.720 --> 00:19:56.759 real time on the ground. I think people in other parts of the country 271 00:19:57.240 --> 00:20:02.640 don't appreciate that when they see the old films of you know, somebody else 272 00:20:02.680 --> 00:20:06.279 standing out there, or some of the bigger names that went out and had 273 00:20:06.319 --> 00:20:11.200 bullhorns and whatnot, that there were you know, dozens, if not hundreds 274 00:20:11.240 --> 00:20:15.119 of guys like you and me who didn't have our names out there. We're 275 00:20:15.160 --> 00:20:18.240 handing out stuff. Sure, we might hand out business cards for ourselves, 276 00:20:18.559 --> 00:20:22.240 but really just a network with somebody else. Like somebody might say, how 277 00:20:22.240 --> 00:20:26.519 do I you know where I can get bunches of those DVDs? I don't 278 00:20:26.559 --> 00:20:30.279 want one, I've already got five of them, but I want to know 279 00:20:30.319 --> 00:20:32.480 where I could get a bunch of them, and we might be hooking up 280 00:20:32.480 --> 00:20:34.440 with other people. Matter of fact, there was a guy called himself the 281 00:20:34.519 --> 00:20:41.359 Obsolete Man in California who had an eBay store devoted to this and it was 282 00:20:41.680 --> 00:20:47.160 going all around the country helping us out to get you know, bulk copies, 283 00:20:47.440 --> 00:20:49.559 you know, hundreds at a time. Did you have a hookup like 284 00:20:49.559 --> 00:20:52.960 that or were you doing it all yourself? Not? Man, my entire 285 00:20:52.960 --> 00:20:57.400 life, I've basically just been bleeding out the ass, trying to create things 286 00:20:57.440 --> 00:21:03.920 that speak to relev and controversial and conspiratorial themes. And I get very little, 287 00:21:03.920 --> 00:21:07.480 if any support. My parents kind of like, don't bankroll me, 288 00:21:07.519 --> 00:21:11.000 but they give me enough where working day jobs and then devoting myself to independent 289 00:21:11.119 --> 00:21:15.160 art isn't something that's completely crushing. And if I didn't have their support, 290 00:21:15.160 --> 00:21:17.799 there's no way to be able to do anything. So it's one of those 291 00:21:17.799 --> 00:21:22.400 things where there's no wonder that we're losing the information war and the alternative media 292 00:21:22.519 --> 00:21:26.039 is gradually being assimilated into something that appears alternative, but it isn't. And 293 00:21:26.279 --> 00:21:30.920 that's because the real deal motherfuckers who are out there trying to make moves, 294 00:21:30.240 --> 00:21:34.640 don't have any support and a substantial capacity, and then all that it takes 295 00:21:34.720 --> 00:21:38.640 is a kneecap from the NYPD, and it can potentially ruin your entire life. 296 00:21:38.680 --> 00:21:41.279 Now I didn't have that happen to me, but it's one of those 297 00:21:41.319 --> 00:21:45.119 things where you got to kind of like try and fight what you think you 298 00:21:45.200 --> 00:21:48.000 have a chance of not winning, but at least being able to make a 299 00:21:48.000 --> 00:21:52.200 substantial contribution. And so I can relate to your idea that it was just 300 00:21:52.240 --> 00:21:56.400 trying to give people what they needed to be able to have a point of 301 00:21:56.440 --> 00:22:00.759 reference for doing things better. I was out there trying to support the work 302 00:22:00.759 --> 00:22:03.839 of architects and engineers for nine to eleven truth, and that wasn't at the 303 00:22:03.839 --> 00:22:06.720 point of me having a platform yet. But it was just me trying to 304 00:22:06.759 --> 00:22:08.279 do what I could do right. No, And look, I did the 305 00:22:08.319 --> 00:22:11.319 same thing like I said, And it wasn't just going to New York, 306 00:22:11.440 --> 00:22:15.759 because look, I used to work at gas stations in Jersey, right, 307 00:22:15.279 --> 00:22:18.279 and I'd be handing out you know, Look, you want, you want 308 00:22:18.279 --> 00:22:22.720 a free movie, I got a free movie for you, you know. 309 00:22:22.839 --> 00:22:25.759 And I even made my own little JFK thing, which was terrible. It 310 00:22:25.799 --> 00:22:27.920 was called bootleg history, and I don't even have a copy of it anymore, 311 00:22:27.960 --> 00:22:30.839 but if somebody has it out there, I would love to have a 312 00:22:30.880 --> 00:22:36.279 copy again, because it was absolutely terrible. And I edited that thing together 313 00:22:36.799 --> 00:22:41.160 with No Lie a little mini what they call mini DVD, a mini disc, 314 00:22:41.599 --> 00:22:48.400 camquarder and a freestanding home recorder. And I'm sitting there cutting clips back 315 00:22:48.400 --> 00:22:53.160 to back and forth and doing voiceovers through the webcam microphone, right and not 316 00:22:53.240 --> 00:22:56.960 the webcam wasn't a webcam. It was just a camquarder, excuse me, 317 00:22:56.000 --> 00:23:00.920 camquoder, microphone and stuff like that, and trying to cut together informational stuff 318 00:23:00.920 --> 00:23:06.920 on the JFK case even And meanwhile, everybody else had better stuff, you 319 00:23:06.920 --> 00:23:10.039 know, loose change was out there, et cetera. So I mean I 320 00:23:10.119 --> 00:23:14.880 was doing myself a lot better handing stuff like that out or the brief thing 321 00:23:14.920 --> 00:23:19.079 that John Hankey put out, which was like fifteen minutes long. And somehow 322 00:23:19.119 --> 00:23:22.240 I got a hold of somebody who had, you know, again, spindles 323 00:23:22.240 --> 00:23:26.079 of blank discs, and we're trading blank discs with people and all kinds of 324 00:23:26.079 --> 00:23:30.680 stuff. You know. We definitely kept the postal service busy mailing things back 325 00:23:30.720 --> 00:23:37.119 and forth so that everybody had these materials, and architects and engineers used to 326 00:23:37.119 --> 00:23:41.000 actually print up glossy cards for you if if you contacted them to be handed 327 00:23:41.079 --> 00:23:44.680 them enough and you could get a hold of them and they would give you 328 00:23:44.720 --> 00:23:48.440 a good package of things. Some stuff you could buy and some stuff they 329 00:23:48.440 --> 00:23:51.680 would give you. So did you get in on all that too, and 330 00:23:52.000 --> 00:23:55.680 get into the network. I just order off of their website. It was 331 00:23:55.680 --> 00:23:59.799 one of those things where it's like, from the standpoint of what the short 332 00:23:59.799 --> 00:24:03.440 film that I made in film school while I was there, it's really well 333 00:24:03.480 --> 00:24:06.880 done, and like Richard Gage has seen it and he loves it, and 334 00:24:07.000 --> 00:24:10.240 Charlie Robinson and a whole bunch of other people now have gone back and watched 335 00:24:10.240 --> 00:24:15.000 it, and it still stands very well today. Because that was my thesis 336 00:24:15.000 --> 00:24:18.839 film going to New York Film Accademy, and it costs me about ten thousand 337 00:24:18.839 --> 00:24:25.759 dollars to make out of pocket. And that's because my not just personal philosophy, 338 00:24:25.759 --> 00:24:30.599 but the unfortunate reality is that people care more about presentation than they do 339 00:24:30.640 --> 00:24:34.039 about what's being presented, and the people who exist in the normy realm of 340 00:24:34.160 --> 00:24:41.279 things. You gotta make it feel not necessarily be the same budget, but 341 00:24:41.359 --> 00:24:45.440 you got to make it feel like in that it's in that realm of things, 342 00:24:45.480 --> 00:24:48.440 and only then are they willing to approach it. And so that's kind 343 00:24:48.440 --> 00:24:53.519 of the underlying catalyst by which I go about creating media both then and now, 344 00:24:53.799 --> 00:24:57.559 is not only does it have to present the information in a great way, 345 00:24:59.000 --> 00:25:03.559 it has to look and feel just amazing. Otherwise it's not going to 346 00:25:03.599 --> 00:25:07.559 be the kind of thing that can bridge out to the mainstream. Right. 347 00:25:07.759 --> 00:25:10.200 Well. See, that's why Robbie Martin. I don't know if you're familiar 348 00:25:10.240 --> 00:25:12.000 with Robbie, but Robbie's done a lot of stuff too. That's, you 349 00:25:12.039 --> 00:25:15.480 know, very interesting when you come up with the higher quality stuff. It's 350 00:25:15.559 --> 00:25:21.799 weird because it puts you in a strange position. Number One, people see 351 00:25:21.799 --> 00:25:25.480 it and yes, it works, it conveys the message, but then they 352 00:25:25.799 --> 00:25:32.079 think that you have enough of a bank roll that it's like, that's the 353 00:25:32.119 --> 00:25:33.880 weird thing is if your stuff is too good. I don't know how to 354 00:25:33.960 --> 00:25:37.160 word this exactly, but you know, I think you know what I'm getting 355 00:25:37.200 --> 00:25:40.480 at. If your stuff looks too good and your stuff does look too good. 356 00:25:40.759 --> 00:25:42.240 By the way, is there a place that we can see the film 357 00:25:42.240 --> 00:25:45.720 you're talking about here? You know? Well, yeah, so I have 358 00:25:45.759 --> 00:25:48.839 two different websites because I'm an artist, I'm a writer. If you want 359 00:25:48.839 --> 00:25:52.279 to check out any of the various different films that I've made or books that 360 00:25:52.319 --> 00:25:57.480 I've written, all of which are designed to provoke controversial conversation, you can 361 00:25:57.519 --> 00:26:02.240 go to T dot CA. It's T E A c E dot c A 362 00:26:02.400 --> 00:26:06.200 because I live in Canada, and that's that's where you can go. One 363 00:26:06.240 --> 00:26:08.640 of the short films that's listed on there is Blindfold. It's just hosted on 364 00:26:08.720 --> 00:26:11.599 Vimeo and it's still on YouTube. But I don't get any love from the 365 00:26:11.640 --> 00:26:15.839 algorithms, right, no love. That's that's what. No love from the 366 00:26:15.880 --> 00:26:18.519 algorithms. And you're not selling it on Vimeo. It's just available. Look, 367 00:26:18.559 --> 00:26:21.680 make sure you shoot me a link so I can include it with the 368 00:26:21.680 --> 00:26:23.720 show notes tonight, whether we do whether you guys are getting this through video 369 00:26:23.839 --> 00:26:26.319 or audio, I want to make sure that you get a link to that 370 00:26:26.440 --> 00:26:30.000 film as well as the rest of Teas's work. So we'll get to all 371 00:26:30.039 --> 00:26:33.720 that. But what do you dot c A? Is that what you said, 372 00:26:33.799 --> 00:26:37.640 or is it wrotten that by me? Again? Yeah? T E 373 00:26:37.720 --> 00:26:41.240 A C E dot C A because that's my MTS. It's like peace but 374 00:26:41.319 --> 00:26:44.480 with a T. And for anyone who at this point in the stream is 375 00:26:44.480 --> 00:26:47.160 wondering why you're looking at a box full of puppies, it's because they were 376 00:26:47.160 --> 00:26:48.759 in the room screaming and I'm like, oh my god, put a camera 377 00:26:48.799 --> 00:26:51.920 onto the things. Because that's a big part of what I do with my 378 00:26:51.960 --> 00:26:55.240 show, Conspiracy s Energy is I use a lot of really cute puppets and 379 00:26:55.319 --> 00:27:00.799 rabbits and cartoons and memes and just really funny, engaging things in order buffer 380 00:27:00.839 --> 00:27:04.039 the degree to which entering the realm of conspiracy can just be brutal and bleak. 381 00:27:04.160 --> 00:27:07.519 So hey, why not have puppies on screen? Right? And I 382 00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:11.880 just so happened to have a brand new seven brand new puppies here with the 383 00:27:11.920 --> 00:27:15.319 Mama weeny dog and you know, and she's sporting a little o' shelly effect 384 00:27:15.799 --> 00:27:21.160 branded merge there. So that's Lena, and there are seven little ones in 385 00:27:21.200 --> 00:27:22.960 there. You can't see them all on camera, but yeah, I figure, 386 00:27:23.119 --> 00:27:26.880 you know what, it's a lot better to look at than my wonderful 387 00:27:26.880 --> 00:27:30.839 face for radio, So what the hell why not? And so yeah, 388 00:27:30.839 --> 00:27:36.359 the puppies are my co hosts tonight. Anyway, So back to the serious 389 00:27:36.359 --> 00:27:40.960 business at hand though. This is really interesting though, how the technology allowed 390 00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:45.400 you something, but also you invested yourself, not just money, but I 391 00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:48.720 mean, you invest yourself into this kind of thing. And like I said, 392 00:27:48.759 --> 00:27:52.440 there's a weird balancing act because if you do a good job, people 393 00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:56.759 start to think, well, you're well funded. You know, you're already 394 00:27:56.799 --> 00:28:00.960 doing well. I don't need to support you. And it's strange because the 395 00:28:02.000 --> 00:28:04.319 only guy and I criticize him a lot, and I don't know how you 396 00:28:04.400 --> 00:28:07.319 feel about him exactly, but I got a funny feeling I know how you 397 00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:11.119 feel about him. The only guy that you know, just making his triumphant 398 00:28:11.119 --> 00:28:17.559 return to Twitter now x whatever. You know, who gets the big funding 399 00:28:18.279 --> 00:28:22.640 and still by some And this this struck me as totally bizarre for the past 400 00:28:22.680 --> 00:28:26.920 decade, is that a guy with a multimillion dollar operation is still much like 401 00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:32.839 a TV preacher, able to convince people who don't really have the money to 402 00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:37.640 send him donations. Still, there were still people sending donations to this guy, 403 00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:41.880 despite the fact that he's got a studio. He's got a whole staff 404 00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:45.839 of people he's able to hire, he's got facilities, he's got equipment, 405 00:28:47.279 --> 00:28:52.160 he's got plenty of sponsors. And there are people out there that still think 406 00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:59.720 that making their purchase in the information war is a viable and valuable thing for 407 00:28:59.799 --> 00:29:03.880 them to take their very little bit of resources and dump it into with this 408 00:29:03.920 --> 00:29:08.319 guy. And meanwhile, guys like you and me are trying to figure out 409 00:29:08.359 --> 00:29:12.000 how to keep our lights on while we're putting out a message. I mean, 410 00:29:12.039 --> 00:29:15.599 look, my whole thing is really radio. I'm about kind of the 411 00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:22.160 throwback to the days when indeed I listened to you know, I listened to 412 00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:26.920 Bill Cooper on shortwave radio right and I was listening to cassette tapes of May 413 00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:33.440 Brussel. That was my introduction into what was AUP media before the Internet was 414 00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:36.400 accessible to the rest of us. Even though the military had the arpinnet et 415 00:29:36.440 --> 00:29:41.079 cetera. It doesn't matter. Point is that that was my point of entry, 416 00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:45.000 and I still adhere to that. Where it's like I've made a radio 417 00:29:45.039 --> 00:29:48.359 station online. I have a talk radio show. This is my version of 418 00:29:48.400 --> 00:29:53.680 the presentation. You're a filmmaker, I'm a talk radio guy, and these 419 00:29:53.720 --> 00:29:57.920 are our packages. Now we have similar goals in mind. Let's get people 420 00:29:57.960 --> 00:30:03.119 to be aware and formed about first the grand deceptions that have been placed in 421 00:30:03.119 --> 00:30:06.759 front of them. Secondly, what can we do about this? Can we 422 00:30:06.880 --> 00:30:10.720 change it? Can we take some actions to make sure that these things don't 423 00:30:10.799 --> 00:30:15.039 keep on happening over and over again, whether we're sent into a war we 424 00:30:15.079 --> 00:30:19.400 didn't ask for, or people are being murdered, like I don't know, 425 00:30:19.480 --> 00:30:25.039 a bunch of children in our names that maybe didn't ask to be invited into 426 00:30:25.079 --> 00:30:29.680 a conflict. Maybe there's a larger nation pounding down on a smaller nation. 427 00:30:30.279 --> 00:30:34.000 Maybe there's a reason. And if we're gonna have this grandiose, gigantic, 428 00:30:34.160 --> 00:30:38.319 largest military on the planet, I mean, one thing is I wish we 429 00:30:38.359 --> 00:30:41.640 didn't have to have it at all. Two, I wish that, you 430 00:30:41.680 --> 00:30:45.599 know, we didn't have to send people in the harms way, who are 431 00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:48.599 true believers in a system that doesn't really exist, doesn't care about them, 432 00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:53.839 has absolutely no upward mobility. And still I maintained because look, I never 433 00:30:53.839 --> 00:30:57.400 served in the military. I'm legally blind. But you know my father did, 434 00:30:57.519 --> 00:31:02.000 and instead of giving his life, he gave his soul and took his 435 00:31:02.079 --> 00:31:06.640 life in nineteen seventy six after he had served in Vietnam and destroyed a good 436 00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:11.319 part of himself internally. Right, this is the kind of thing I'd rather 437 00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:15.920 not see repeated, because I think I'm a little older than UTIs. And 438 00:31:17.200 --> 00:31:19.240 the deal is that, you know, Generation X, You notice that we're 439 00:31:19.279 --> 00:31:23.799 kind of absent from the equation. We're not in positions of leadership. It 440 00:31:23.880 --> 00:31:27.680 seems like it's the baby boomers and the generation after us that are involved. 441 00:31:29.079 --> 00:31:34.359 I think it's because they recapped our entire generation by destroying the male role models, 442 00:31:34.359 --> 00:31:38.759 by destroying the people that were supposed to be our protectors and our teachers. 443 00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:44.240 Who was people like my father, other people's uncles, other people's grandfathers. 444 00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:48.599 Because here's the thing, fifty eight thousand deaths in Vietnam and a million 445 00:31:48.680 --> 00:31:52.480 men, according to my count, returned back to this country, returned back 446 00:31:52.519 --> 00:31:59.200 to the world mangled and mutilated, either spiritually, physically, psychologically one way 447 00:31:59.279 --> 00:32:01.839 or another. Had a serious effect on my generation. And all of it, 448 00:32:01.960 --> 00:32:07.119 by the way, done under false pretense. And now I've just explained 449 00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:09.920 to you why it matters that the first shot of the Vietnam War was actually 450 00:32:09.920 --> 00:32:15.240 fired in Daly Plaza on November twenty second, nineteen sixty three, because President 451 00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:20.200 Kennedy was going to withdraw everybody out of there by the end of sixty five, 452 00:32:20.559 --> 00:32:24.079 which means, guess what up until Afghanistan taking the grand prize for the 453 00:32:24.119 --> 00:32:30.000 longest military engagement in US history. Vietnam was it, and it was done 454 00:32:30.119 --> 00:32:35.519 all under what the Gulf of Tonkin resolution based on an event that didn't actually 455 00:32:35.559 --> 00:32:39.079 happen, that they even admit to publicly now was a non situation where a 456 00:32:39.119 --> 00:32:43.960 boat was fired upon in the middle of the night, maybe and one bullet 457 00:32:43.960 --> 00:32:46.839 hole was put through a hole maybe, And by the way, they just 458 00:32:46.920 --> 00:32:51.839 needed a justification. No, I didn't use the word false flag, but 459 00:32:51.920 --> 00:32:57.599 I could even though there's no flag necessarily flying that anybody was flying falsely. 460 00:32:57.640 --> 00:33:01.000 There were US flags on those ships, but the narrative was false and as 461 00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:06.519 per usual, just like weapons of mass destruction would give us a whole generation 462 00:33:06.720 --> 00:33:10.759 later, you know, basically running into a sovereign nation under false pretenses, 463 00:33:10.799 --> 00:33:15.559 destroying it, bulcanizing it, taking away the will of the people, torturing 464 00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:19.480 the local population, all of that done under the guise of the War on 465 00:33:19.599 --> 00:33:24.640 Terror from a nation that, according to anybody's estimation, launched nothing, did 466 00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:30.279 nothing to us. Saddam Hussein didn't hit those towers. Even if you believe 467 00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:34.480 in the big bad box cutter theory, you know what, he didn't do 468 00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:37.440 it. And what did we do? Well? We not you and me, 469 00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:40.559 but I mean the we that is the US, right, that is 470 00:33:40.640 --> 00:33:46.480 the US. I guess yeah, A lot of things keep happening because nobody 471 00:33:46.480 --> 00:33:50.799 stands up and does something about it. And if you do well, you 472 00:33:50.880 --> 00:33:52.759 might get a car ride in Dallas, or you might end up on the 473 00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:58.880 balcony at the Lorraine Hotel, or you could end up in a hotel or 474 00:33:58.920 --> 00:34:04.480 a motel, motels the Lorraine, but a hotel in California where somebody with 475 00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:07.720 a twenty two never gets close to you, somehow puts the muzzle of a 476 00:34:07.759 --> 00:34:12.320 gun behind one of your ears and blows your head off. Maybe that happens 477 00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:16.079 if you talk about peace and maybe not doing the thing that the military industrial 478 00:34:16.119 --> 00:34:21.159 complex kept wanting somebody like Kennedy to do repeatedly, where they tried to get 479 00:34:21.239 --> 00:34:25.280 US not only into an armed conflict with the Soviet Union over Cuba, but 480 00:34:25.400 --> 00:34:30.159 also over Germany, also over Laos, also over. I got a list 481 00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:35.280 just saying, bunch of times he didn't want to go to war, bunch 482 00:34:35.280 --> 00:34:38.679 of times he didn't want to hear the discussion about first strike nuclear war and 483 00:34:38.719 --> 00:34:42.599 you could win. Bunch of times he didn't want to hear all that. 484 00:34:42.719 --> 00:34:46.000 So guess what he had to go. And then when his brother was coming 485 00:34:46.039 --> 00:34:49.800 up, I mean, they couldn't let him get anywhere near it. Johnson 486 00:34:49.840 --> 00:34:52.039 did what they wanted. But anyway, Oh, it's all ancient history. 487 00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:58.480 It doesn't matter. But the problem is it keeps happening and we need to 488 00:34:58.519 --> 00:35:00.159 do something about it. And in order to something about it, we need 489 00:35:00.199 --> 00:35:04.360 to know what the truth is about what's happening as it's happening, and it 490 00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:07.320 would help to know where we were, to know where we're going. Or 491 00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:12.960 maybe I'm just crazy and babbling, what says ut Snyder. No, I 492 00:35:13.000 --> 00:35:20.039 mean. So it's a long and succinct encapsulation of an even longer situation that 493 00:35:20.199 --> 00:35:23.920 humanity continues to find itself in, which is basically that you have a criminal 494 00:35:23.960 --> 00:35:31.800 syndicate which is parasitic that wraps itself in an emotional blanket so that people are 495 00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:35.639 willing to snuggle up next to it. And then the last thing they want 496 00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:38.199 to do is unveil it. That's what we're going through. That's what the 497 00:35:38.239 --> 00:35:46.519 trauma based mind control various different like archetypal creations of large scale wars and sacrifices 498 00:35:46.559 --> 00:35:52.000 are for. And then it's disseminated into the larger population through association, much 499 00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:55.519 like you experienced with your father and I experienced something similar with my uncle. 500 00:35:55.880 --> 00:36:00.599 That's something that very much does strip the male role model the way you were 501 00:36:00.599 --> 00:36:02.480 talking about. And then the people who go out there and do the real 502 00:36:02.559 --> 00:36:08.280 hard work, like yourself and me doing the like boots on the ground activism, 503 00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:12.679 trying to bring awareness. We don't have cameras pointed at us. Instead, 504 00:36:12.760 --> 00:36:19.599 they have front end actors like Alex Jones out there giving people the illusion 505 00:36:19.639 --> 00:36:22.599 that they're the ones who are going to be the solution. But the reality 506 00:36:22.679 --> 00:36:25.000 is is that they're just a part of the problem. And that's an ongoing 507 00:36:25.119 --> 00:36:30.480 thing that people need to snap out of their delirium and come to realize, 508 00:36:30.519 --> 00:36:35.559 because you're right, it's going to keep happening if we don't right And that's 509 00:36:35.559 --> 00:36:37.920 why you know, look, and I'm not going to go through another long 510 00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:39.800 time rade here because I want to ask you stuff. You are the guy 511 00:36:39.880 --> 00:36:44.639 I need to hear from tonight, because my audience can hear from me anytime. 512 00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:49.199 But here's the deal. You know, we were on Union of the 513 00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:52.880 Unwanted the other night, right, and I enjoy that show. I've enjoyed 514 00:36:52.920 --> 00:36:57.400 watching it, I've enjoyed participating in and on occasion, it is an interesting, 515 00:36:57.679 --> 00:37:00.920 you know, sort of get together, right with some interesting people who 516 00:37:01.000 --> 00:37:05.000 are steady hands out there, who are doing their own thing, their own 517 00:37:05.079 --> 00:37:08.480 way in independent media. I'm not saying I endorse everybody who's on there, 518 00:37:08.639 --> 00:37:13.519 not by a long shot. But it is an interesting get together, okay. 519 00:37:13.960 --> 00:37:15.519 And I'm not going to sit here and bash anybody or anything. Don't 520 00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:19.280 worry in case you were thinking I was going to do that, That's not 521 00:37:19.320 --> 00:37:22.920 what I'm about. I'm not about that. But what I noted during the 522 00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:29.920 conversation from this week is that in the midst of this argument growing all of 523 00:37:29.960 --> 00:37:35.920 a sudden, people not wanting to listen and defending people that have absolutely no 524 00:37:36.039 --> 00:37:42.000 connection to their real lives. Okay, people that are representative of this politic, 525 00:37:42.239 --> 00:37:45.679 of this religious stance, of this idealism of well, this is an 526 00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:50.920 outsider and I'm an outsider, and so on and so forth, and I'm 527 00:37:50.920 --> 00:37:52.880 not even naming names here, Tez. Here's the thing, though, you 528 00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:57.480 and I, it seemed like we had a couple of moments there during the 529 00:37:57.519 --> 00:38:00.519 conversation, and there was no direct contact between you and me, but I 530 00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:05.559 had a feeling that you and I were listening to these arguments start to roar, 531 00:38:05.800 --> 00:38:10.039 start to roll, and saying, guys, do you not understand that 532 00:38:10.639 --> 00:38:15.920 exactly what you're doing right now is the point of most of what is being 533 00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:23.320 seized upon here? Your sentimentality has been weaponized so that you are occupied with 534 00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:29.760 doing exactly this. Let's argue over. This is my guy in the blue 535 00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:32.320 tie, this is my guy in the red tie. Yes, indeed, 536 00:38:32.360 --> 00:38:38.800 I'm reminded of mister Hicks and the discussion about hey, it's two guys controlling 537 00:38:38.800 --> 00:38:45.360 the same puppets. Shut up, you know, I'm reminded of it is 538 00:38:45.719 --> 00:38:50.039 a one party system, and the point of keeping people like us, who 539 00:38:50.119 --> 00:38:54.039 might be animated, who might get active, who might ask the uncomfortable questions, 540 00:38:54.679 --> 00:38:58.719 is to make sure that we fight with one another. And this is 541 00:38:58.800 --> 00:39:05.880 done in a very surgical and precise and nefarious way. Sometimes where I swear 542 00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:07.679 and I don't point everybody go, he's a FED, he's a Fed. 543 00:39:07.760 --> 00:39:13.800 But sometimes they're Feds, you know. And I don't point everybody go, 544 00:39:13.920 --> 00:39:15.639 Oh, they're just out there for the money, and they're just you know, 545 00:39:15.840 --> 00:39:21.119 well backed by somebody who's actually here to just cause chaos, and they 546 00:39:21.159 --> 00:39:25.159 are what is the word provocateur, it's a provocateur, it's a I don't 547 00:39:25.320 --> 00:39:30.000 use those words quickly and easily all the time, but I can say that 548 00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:35.639 the general program that is meant to keep not only us fighting with the normies 549 00:39:36.400 --> 00:39:38.920 and us fighting with people trying to say, look, try and examine things 550 00:39:38.920 --> 00:39:43.000 in a different way. Try and just open your mind to some of the 551 00:39:43.000 --> 00:39:46.159 stuff that's going on right under your nose that they're telling you they're doing, 552 00:39:46.440 --> 00:39:51.719 that they're showing you they're doing that is not according to the program that you 553 00:39:51.880 --> 00:39:57.239 think you're signing on for. But indeed, there is another level going on 554 00:39:57.360 --> 00:40:00.719 here where we're meant to be fighting with each other. That's done on so 555 00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:04.599 many different levels, and we saw it in real time right then and there 556 00:40:04.960 --> 00:40:08.599 people who were fiercely independent, who are doing their own thing, turning on 557 00:40:08.639 --> 00:40:15.360 each other over things that really and truthfully are not relevant to our day to 558 00:40:15.440 --> 00:40:20.159 day struggles, are not truly relevant to the things that actually hinder us or 559 00:40:20.480 --> 00:40:23.679 the things that could uplift us. Not ever focusing on that, because I'm 560 00:40:23.719 --> 00:40:29.719 going to be too busy defending my politician guy who I'm rooting for, my 561 00:40:29.880 --> 00:40:32.719 political activist who is out there, and just so happens to have, you 562 00:40:32.760 --> 00:40:37.599 know, the biggest radio show or the biggest podcast or whatever it is, 563 00:40:37.880 --> 00:40:40.480 because you know, I'm a big Joe Rogan gooy, you know whatever. 564 00:40:40.639 --> 00:40:45.920 Oh, Elon Musk is a hero because why, I don't know. You 565 00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:50.000 know, now, the military industrial complex has nothing to do with Elon Musk. 566 00:40:50.039 --> 00:40:52.679 He doesn't make money off of government subsidies constantly, doesn't. I mean, 567 00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:59.079 the original welfare queen is actually a billionaire. Anyway, I'm getting away 568 00:40:59.119 --> 00:41:02.079 from myself. Here's the thing. We're arguing with each other a lot. 569 00:41:02.239 --> 00:41:07.280 We do this all the time in many, many arenas. And whether it's 570 00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:12.039 at the corner store, at the coffee shop, or on an internet radio 571 00:41:12.119 --> 00:41:15.719 show, here we are we're meant to be occupied with arguing with one another. 572 00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:20.159 And I think you or I came to that conclusion a couple of times 573 00:41:20.239 --> 00:41:23.920 during that discussion, and I wonder if you wouldn't sort of elaborate in your 574 00:41:23.960 --> 00:41:30.519 own words about how that works, how you see it, how you're experiencing 575 00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:34.400 that. As the great content creator you are, you create some of the 576 00:41:34.480 --> 00:41:38.400 most entertaining and thought provoking videos out there. And I'm really almost ashamed of 577 00:41:38.440 --> 00:41:44.000 myself that I only discovered you in this past year, because I really wish 578 00:41:44.079 --> 00:41:45.800 I had watched this stuff all along, and I've got to go back and 579 00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:51.920 catch more of it. I love what you're doing because it's just it's unique, 580 00:41:52.280 --> 00:41:57.199 and we need more innovation to get to revelation, you know. So 581 00:41:57.840 --> 00:42:02.079 tell me about this though, what you think about the absolutely orchestrated in fighting, 582 00:42:02.159 --> 00:42:07.960 the controlled opposition, and the superstructures that we see where we're pitted against 583 00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:14.599 one another, even when we attempt to decouple ourselves from the typical you know, 584 00:42:15.519 --> 00:42:19.039 sinc tanks, the open air think tanks were the ones that we sign 585 00:42:19.119 --> 00:42:24.679 up for. Either way, we're confronted with automatically being arranged into arguments with 586 00:42:24.760 --> 00:42:29.960 others, being pitted against one another. Tell me about that. Elaborate about 587 00:42:29.960 --> 00:42:32.280 that a little bit, please. Yeah, So you're spot on, and 588 00:42:32.480 --> 00:42:40.159 insofar as your basically assumptions about my position in sitting back and listening to the 589 00:42:40.199 --> 00:42:45.039 conversation of Union unwanted. Yeah, it's a real problem that we have now 590 00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:51.400 and we've had going back to my experience with nine to eleven truth the infighting 591 00:42:51.519 --> 00:42:54.920 for people whether it was you know, a Tesla vibratory device, a miny 592 00:42:55.000 --> 00:42:59.039 nuke, if it was some sort of like directed energy weapon, if it 593 00:42:59.079 --> 00:43:04.239 was controlled demolition, and if it was some convergence or mixing of all of 594 00:43:04.239 --> 00:43:07.719 them, in order to hide the reality of the sophistication of what's going on, 595 00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:13.440 not even to mention the occult side of it. And yeah, like 596 00:43:13.519 --> 00:43:16.760 personally, I have an uncle who worked in the Justice Department who was at 597 00:43:16.800 --> 00:43:22.119 Ground zero who did not hear a plane. And I also know that Richard 598 00:43:22.159 --> 00:43:24.760 Grove was there and he didn't hear one either. And then I talked to 599 00:43:24.800 --> 00:43:29.840 Steve because I co host AM Wake Up on Wednesdays, and he knows people 600 00:43:29.920 --> 00:43:34.159 who heard explosions but didn't see a plane. And so it's one of those 601 00:43:34.159 --> 00:43:37.920 things where there's a lot going on there and it's extraordinarily sophisticated, and it's 602 00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:39.920 designed to be that way, and it's designed to be that way, because 603 00:43:39.920 --> 00:43:45.079 it keeps us squabbling about the semantic details rather than being able to step back 604 00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:50.239 from that, remove the nails from our coffin, and step out of the 605 00:43:50.599 --> 00:43:55.280 environment that has been built as a tomb to keep us from being able to 606 00:43:55.440 --> 00:44:00.679 exum ourselves from that kind of environment and create something better for the future. 607 00:44:00.039 --> 00:44:04.000 And that's the Jesuit model. And this is the point that I'd made on 608 00:44:04.039 --> 00:44:07.159 the Union of the Unwanted, is to get you deeply emotionally invested enough in 609 00:44:07.199 --> 00:44:09.199 your beliefs where you are willing to fight for them. It doesn't even really 610 00:44:09.239 --> 00:44:13.360 necessarily matter what your beliefs are, as long as you're fighting on behalf of 611 00:44:13.400 --> 00:44:19.039 them. Then that's a deep enough entrenchment where it sabotages being able to conduct 612 00:44:19.079 --> 00:44:22.239 yourself in a way to the betterment of your fellow men. And that's really 613 00:44:22.239 --> 00:44:27.679 what we need to do from a principal perspective, is understand that the various 614 00:44:27.800 --> 00:44:30.800 different figures that have been given to us aren't ultimately fighting for us. They're 615 00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:36.679 just distractions. They're there so that we will create emotional attachments, and then 616 00:44:36.719 --> 00:44:42.000 those emotional attachments will become the sort of trip wires that we put in front 617 00:44:42.039 --> 00:44:44.639 of one another, so that someone has to agree with a guy we like 618 00:44:44.760 --> 00:44:49.119 rather than the principles that we have the courage to stand for. And that's 619 00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:52.079 a very successful maneuver. And that's why my show and the content that I 620 00:44:52.199 --> 00:44:58.079 create is entirely oriented around the emotional framework by which you go about broaching these 621 00:44:58.119 --> 00:45:01.559 subjects. Because if you're able to do that successfully, and I dare contend 622 00:45:01.639 --> 00:45:06.800 that I have, then it can become a successful outreach tool for friends and 623 00:45:06.840 --> 00:45:12.119 family. But if we continue to allow infighting to sequester us or to pigeonhole 624 00:45:12.199 --> 00:45:15.639 us in various different encampments, then we're doing the establishment's work for them. 625 00:45:15.920 --> 00:45:21.079 We're not actually the alternative media or the truth movement. We're a bowel movement 626 00:45:21.079 --> 00:45:23.320 and we're going nowhere but down the drain. That's the situation we're in. 627 00:45:25.320 --> 00:45:31.440 Yeah, absolutely true, and that's the that's the bizarre thing that Look, 628 00:45:31.719 --> 00:45:37.159 I tried to signal too, because I'm not a heavily active person. When 629 00:45:37.159 --> 00:45:40.599 it comes to nine to eleven, I got active briefly and went back to 630 00:45:40.840 --> 00:45:44.920 the study. I knew best, you know, the JFK stuff. But 631 00:45:45.400 --> 00:45:47.480 here's what's informative about that, right A lot of people say, well, 632 00:45:47.519 --> 00:45:50.679 you know, it's an old matter, it doesn't really matter. I just 633 00:45:50.719 --> 00:45:53.000 pointed out to you why it still matters. But if you don't hear it, 634 00:45:53.039 --> 00:45:57.920 you don't hear it. What can I do? It is the organizing 635 00:45:57.960 --> 00:46:00.760 principle by which I got into this. But here's the thing I tried to 636 00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:06.159 say to a whole lot of people who cared very deeply about the truth, 637 00:46:06.280 --> 00:46:09.440 who cared very deeply about getting the information out, I said, look, 638 00:46:09.800 --> 00:46:16.119 try and examine what went on for the movement that existed for almost forty years 639 00:46:16.320 --> 00:46:22.880 before the buildings fell. Okay, which is the JFK thing. We got 640 00:46:22.920 --> 00:46:27.320 a lot of mistakes to show you infiltration from government agents. And I don't 641 00:46:27.320 --> 00:46:32.000 mean imagine or alleged, I mean directly. We can prove that the CIA 642 00:46:32.079 --> 00:46:37.119 put people into place when the citizens the citizen re excuse me, allegedly asked 643 00:46:37.159 --> 00:46:42.880 for you know, investigations, and the Congress engaged in it on our behalf. 644 00:46:42.960 --> 00:46:47.679 Allegedly again, the CIA directly in violation of their own agreement. They 645 00:46:47.719 --> 00:46:52.320 said, you know, don't put anybody who could have possibly been working around 646 00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:55.719 any of these events involved, and let them be the liaison to our committee. 647 00:46:57.000 --> 00:47:01.360 There's a guy and his name was George Joan Edes that they gave to 648 00:47:01.400 --> 00:47:06.559 the House Select Committee on Assassinations. Who guess what, had been working with 649 00:47:06.679 --> 00:47:13.760 anti Castro Cubans and the CIA in nineteen sixty three. Jefferson Morley's been suing 650 00:47:13.800 --> 00:47:16.960 the CIA to get them to expose that truth now for years and years. 651 00:47:17.000 --> 00:47:21.280 You know, a funny side note to that, there was a guy named, 652 00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:24.199 you know, Brett Kavanaugh, who ended up getting himself a job a 653 00:47:24.239 --> 00:47:29.760 couple of years ago. You know who to final you know, judge to 654 00:47:29.840 --> 00:47:36.639 dismiss Jefferson Morley against the CIA. Was Brett Kavanaugh, just saying, coincidentally, 655 00:47:36.719 --> 00:47:39.360 during the same year when you know, Hero Trump was supposed to release 656 00:47:39.400 --> 00:47:44.039 all the JFK records and then of course Hero Biden was going to come along 657 00:47:44.079 --> 00:47:46.360 and do it, and spoiler alert, neither one of them did it, 658 00:47:47.360 --> 00:47:51.440 Just saying, you know, it just so happens. That's the guy who 659 00:47:51.440 --> 00:47:55.239 gets rewarded with a seat on the Supreme Court. So you know, it 660 00:47:55.400 --> 00:48:00.280 just happens that these things go on. They literally have put people into investigations, 661 00:48:00.599 --> 00:48:05.119 have hindered people. We know based on records that even going back to 662 00:48:05.199 --> 00:48:08.400 Jim Garrison's investigation in the JFK case where he's the only guy who tried to 663 00:48:08.400 --> 00:48:15.079 prosecute somebody, right, Clay Shaw. Guess what, the CIA literally dispatched 664 00:48:15.079 --> 00:48:20.440 people to interfere with his investigation. We know that from their own records. 665 00:48:20.480 --> 00:48:24.880 Now that's not a supposition on my part, you know. So the people 666 00:48:24.880 --> 00:48:30.840 that imagine that they might I don't know, interfere with people who are making 667 00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:34.880 progress, who might actually expose the truth, whether it's you know, the 668 00:48:34.960 --> 00:48:38.039 direct truth or accidentally stumble across something else, like you know, the guys 669 00:48:38.039 --> 00:48:43.079 that accidentally when a plane went down found that there was a cocaine trafficking ring. 670 00:48:43.480 --> 00:48:46.039 You know what I'm saying in Arkansas, stuff like that. Just going 671 00:48:46.079 --> 00:48:51.320 back through history, just thumbing through my own history books, Okay, you 672 00:48:51.320 --> 00:48:54.840 know, I'm just saying, you might run into whoops, we kicked over 673 00:48:54.880 --> 00:48:59.159 the wrong stone, and there's a lot of other snakes and worms under it. 674 00:49:00.119 --> 00:49:04.719 Shaw wasn't necessarily a guy involved in the assassination. But turns out, 675 00:49:05.159 --> 00:49:07.880 despite his denials and everything else, and the fact that the CIA helped to 676 00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:14.079 arrange for a lawyer for him and everything, he was actually an asset for 677 00:49:14.159 --> 00:49:17.280 the CIA, you know, and that crazy kid they never heard of named 678 00:49:17.320 --> 00:49:21.679 Oswald. Seems like they had contact with him too, But pay no attention 679 00:49:21.719 --> 00:49:23.960 to that because there's nothing new in the records tease, you know, as 680 00:49:24.000 --> 00:49:29.199 we get these things out there. Sorry. We also got Operation Northwoods out 681 00:49:29.199 --> 00:49:31.320 of the JFK Records Collection Act as well. I don't know if you're aware 682 00:49:31.320 --> 00:49:37.000 of that, but that is where that actually came from. Where we found 683 00:49:37.000 --> 00:49:39.119 out that, you know, going back to the nineteen sixties, they had 684 00:49:39.119 --> 00:49:45.320 the capability to use remote control airplanes to stage terrorist attacks, because otherwise the 685 00:49:45.320 --> 00:49:51.639 Pentagon wouldn't have proposed something they couldn't pull off to President Kennan d you see. 686 00:49:51.800 --> 00:49:53.400 So the people that say, well, the technology wasn't available in two 687 00:49:53.440 --> 00:49:58.519 thousand and one, guess what. Sorry, But if they were offering to 688 00:49:58.519 --> 00:50:01.440 do it in nineteen sixty one, I'm thinking they might be able to offer 689 00:50:01.559 --> 00:50:05.840 to do it again in two thousand and one. But then again, I 690 00:50:05.840 --> 00:50:09.320 mean, I'm a conspiracy theorist, right, which is a term they invented, 691 00:50:09.320 --> 00:50:14.880 and we got that out of the documentation as well to categorize people that 692 00:50:14.920 --> 00:50:17.159 were Warren Commission critics. See, I'm sorry, I keep going back to 693 00:50:17.159 --> 00:50:21.960 the JFK stuff. And you know why, because there's lessons to be learned 694 00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:25.400 even from the failures there, that tell you what happens when you try to 695 00:50:25.480 --> 00:50:30.679 dig in the wrong places. And quite frankly, I mean I was even 696 00:50:30.719 --> 00:50:36.960 just totally unrelated looking at stuff related to the Franklin cover up, and you 697 00:50:36.960 --> 00:50:39.719 know the behaviors of people in power there, and I'm sure you're aware of, 698 00:50:39.760 --> 00:50:42.880 you know, John DeCamp and all that. I mean, it's old 699 00:50:42.920 --> 00:50:45.519 hat to a guy like you, But just saying when you keep looking at 700 00:50:45.519 --> 00:50:50.159 these things and people say, no, you're a paranoid conspiracy theorist. And 701 00:50:50.679 --> 00:50:52.440 the government really doesn't care about what you have to say. Well, on 702 00:50:52.519 --> 00:50:57.599 some levels they don't, but on other levels, the fact that you are 703 00:50:57.679 --> 00:51:00.519 restricted, the fact that you are deplatformed, the fact that you are sort 704 00:51:00.519 --> 00:51:04.840 of held in place and never allowed to benefit. You know, like, 705 00:51:05.159 --> 00:51:08.119 what is the name of that guy KSI or whatever who's out there, you 706 00:51:08.159 --> 00:51:13.480 know, selling his drink called Prime or whatever. Right, he's the big, 707 00:51:14.079 --> 00:51:16.079 big Internet sensation guy. You know, if you want to sell garbage 708 00:51:16.079 --> 00:51:22.519 and poison and you want to sell crap videos to kids, they got millions 709 00:51:22.559 --> 00:51:25.639 of dollars for you if you want to sell the story that gets you going 710 00:51:25.679 --> 00:51:30.760 nowhere but in circles, and you want to sell you know, part of 711 00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:35.360 the truth. But then you know, do like smoke weed with Joe Rogan. 712 00:51:35.800 --> 00:51:37.840 I mean, you can get out there, You can reach a lot 713 00:51:37.840 --> 00:51:40.320 of people if you want to be Tucker Carlson, who was recently a new 714 00:51:40.320 --> 00:51:45.440 hero in the alt media apparently, you know, which I don't understand, 715 00:51:45.519 --> 00:51:50.199 considering that he was part of the privileged class there for a long time and 716 00:51:50.800 --> 00:51:53.440 was part of the corporate media for a long time, and suddenly now he 717 00:51:53.519 --> 00:51:59.440 does his show on Twitter and he's got overnight success with that because Elon's behind 718 00:51:59.480 --> 00:52:02.639 him and he's a hero. And we got into that on The Union of 719 00:52:02.679 --> 00:52:06.480 the Unwanted too. What are your thoughts about that though? The sort of 720 00:52:07.119 --> 00:52:09.480 modern twisting, you know, the thing they tried to do with the guy 721 00:52:09.559 --> 00:52:14.519 over there with the Blaze, where you know, they gave him a platform 722 00:52:14.559 --> 00:52:17.239 and everything else. I mean, poor Bill O'Reilly, after all the years 723 00:52:17.239 --> 00:52:22.079 that he invested in being a shill, this guy, you know, is 724 00:52:22.119 --> 00:52:25.280 sitting down with Chris Cuomo begging for people to pay attention to him on News 725 00:52:25.400 --> 00:52:30.800 nation. But Tucker Carlson goes live on Twitter and immediately he's got what the 726 00:52:30.880 --> 00:52:35.400 largest audience on the planet. I think he's even beaten Rogan at this point. 727 00:52:36.119 --> 00:52:37.960 And guys like you and me who do it for years and years, 728 00:52:38.320 --> 00:52:42.199 who work our asses off, who don't have a staff, who are not 729 00:52:42.360 --> 00:52:45.320 backed by a billionaire, And I'm not saying this out of resentment, I'm 730 00:52:45.400 --> 00:52:51.840 just saying this out of g I wonder why it is they support certain alternatives. 731 00:52:52.679 --> 00:52:57.400 Maybe because they're not super productive and they don't contain anything but a bunch 732 00:52:57.440 --> 00:53:00.400 of things for you to run around in circles about, or in my way 733 00:53:00.440 --> 00:53:05.840 off here, Tie Snyder. Generally speaking, people support whoever they think is 734 00:53:05.880 --> 00:53:07.639 going to do the job for them, whoever it is tells them that the 735 00:53:07.760 --> 00:53:13.320 job is easier than it actually is. The reality is cushpier than it actually 736 00:53:13.400 --> 00:53:16.639 is. They want to stay in an infantile state where they could just be 737 00:53:16.719 --> 00:53:20.719 rocked to sleep and just go and do the things that I enjoy. And 738 00:53:20.760 --> 00:53:27.239 if you understand the gradual like let's say, predictive programming, social engineering landscape 739 00:53:27.239 --> 00:53:30.239 of entertainment media that we've all been in trained with from cradle to grave. 740 00:53:30.639 --> 00:53:36.880 It's to create that kind of individual such that if you go out there in 741 00:53:36.920 --> 00:53:42.480 a public forum, you need to fall within the constraints of a particular kind 742 00:53:42.679 --> 00:53:46.360 of let's say, who you are, how you present things, what you 743 00:53:46.719 --> 00:53:51.639 gravitate towards what you identify with, and if you don't, then it's like 744 00:53:51.679 --> 00:53:54.239 a certain number of strikes until you're just not a viable option. Even if 745 00:53:54.280 --> 00:53:59.119 you're completely in alignment with the truth and the reality of the situation. People 746 00:53:59.199 --> 00:54:02.719 still want that easy solution, and that's the poison pill that has been swapped 747 00:54:02.760 --> 00:54:07.079 out for the red pill. That's the problem. People keep going that road, 748 00:54:07.400 --> 00:54:08.800 and that's how they get black pilled. But there's actually a way in 749 00:54:08.800 --> 00:54:12.000 which you're supposed to go about it, which is that you're supposed to take 750 00:54:12.000 --> 00:54:14.559 the red pill, then you're supposed to take the black pill, then you're 751 00:54:14.559 --> 00:54:16.719 supposed to take the gold pill or the white pill, which basically means that 752 00:54:16.800 --> 00:54:20.679 no matter how fucked up it is, you're still supposed to try and you're 753 00:54:20.719 --> 00:54:23.199 supposed to do what's right. And that's what I've observed most of all from 754 00:54:23.320 --> 00:54:27.719 most people who are in this fight. They aren't really willing to go all 755 00:54:27.719 --> 00:54:30.320 the way or to do what's right. They keep trying to pander to the 756 00:54:30.320 --> 00:54:34.079 people out there who have been presented as if they're going to be their savior, 757 00:54:34.280 --> 00:54:37.519 when really it's it's just another layer of us getting fucked. Yeah, 758 00:54:37.559 --> 00:54:40.519 it's kind of like Diesel Automatic said, you know, they're just holding open 759 00:54:40.559 --> 00:54:45.440 auditions for David, you know, And that's what it is. Constantly, 760 00:54:45.480 --> 00:54:47.679 one way or another, you don't like that savior, we got another. 761 00:54:47.800 --> 00:54:52.280 You want hope and change. On the one side, we got Obama. 762 00:54:52.440 --> 00:54:53.960 Hey, that didn't work out. You want hope and change. On the 763 00:54:54.199 --> 00:54:58.880 alleged opposite side, we got Trump for you. One way or another, 764 00:54:58.920 --> 00:55:01.800 they got a package deal, and it's another it's another savior, another big 765 00:55:01.880 --> 00:55:05.760 daddy that's going to come in and, like you said, do the job 766 00:55:05.840 --> 00:55:08.760 for you. Yeah. And so that's that's exactly where we're at. And 767 00:55:08.800 --> 00:55:14.960 that's literally the exact reason that I created Conspiracy Synergy in the particular emotional tone 768 00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:17.719 that I did, so that it can be used as a central catalyst for 769 00:55:19.480 --> 00:55:22.400 the entirety of the alternative media, the truth movement. Some of the people 770 00:55:22.559 --> 00:55:27.000 I'm not in agreement with a lot of what they say, but I have 771 00:55:27.119 --> 00:55:30.159 attempted to use as the people that I put forward, like the first episode, 772 00:55:30.199 --> 00:55:35.119 the person that I recommend as an introduction for everyone first is James Corbett. 773 00:55:35.159 --> 00:55:37.079 Number two is Richard grow from Tragedy and Hope. Number three is Mark 774 00:55:37.079 --> 00:55:40.559 Passio, who is actually I would contend the best when it comes to the 775 00:55:40.559 --> 00:55:45.480 person who's done the deepest level of research into the various different threads of what's 776 00:55:45.559 --> 00:55:51.280 actually going on on the deepest levels of the occult and dark Lucidetarianism and Satanism 777 00:55:51.280 --> 00:55:52.760 and all that kind of stuff, which on the surface are just front end 778 00:55:52.840 --> 00:55:58.760 organizations that are pr constructs to detract power from the Church, which I'm not 779 00:55:58.760 --> 00:56:01.239 saying is a good thing either, but it's basically there to appear in a 780 00:56:01.239 --> 00:56:06.320 superficial veneer much different than it actually is. As you dig deeper, and 781 00:56:06.360 --> 00:56:09.079 if you dig deeper, you start to get into the roots of Nazism, 782 00:56:09.119 --> 00:56:14.719 which is occultism, the Tuley Society, go into the Oto, all these 783 00:56:14.800 --> 00:56:16.559 kinds of things that if people aren't in in the know, they can't imagine 784 00:56:16.559 --> 00:56:20.480 that it gets that dark, and that touches on the Franklin cover up, 785 00:56:20.480 --> 00:56:25.400 which you discuss. You get into that entire thing. It's intergenerational criminal cartels 786 00:56:25.400 --> 00:56:30.599 which for a very long time have been working in a predatory, psychopathic manner, 787 00:56:30.920 --> 00:56:37.679 in tight knit, very very well coordinated, and profoundly powerful orchestrations that 788 00:56:37.079 --> 00:56:43.000 because of how malfiessen they are, it's one of those things where they're able 789 00:56:43.039 --> 00:56:45.519 to go out there put daggers in our hearts and then we aren't able to 790 00:56:45.559 --> 00:56:49.360 stand up rally together, align ourselves with the force of love and then ultimately 791 00:56:49.400 --> 00:56:52.760 make progress. And that's something that until we're able to digest dust, how 792 00:56:52.840 --> 00:56:58.199 deep this shit actually goes, how hard it is, how brutal it is 793 00:56:58.239 --> 00:57:00.320 when you actually study the worst of the worst. Until we can do that, 794 00:57:00.440 --> 00:57:04.360 we're just going to stay in the cartoon narratives, ourselves a little more 795 00:57:04.400 --> 00:57:07.079 than cartoon characters. Well, and here's the thing right there, there is 796 00:57:07.360 --> 00:57:12.079 plenty of land mines along the way to slow you down, even if you 797 00:57:12.199 --> 00:57:16.719 have that path that you just laid out in mind directly. Look, every 798 00:57:16.760 --> 00:57:22.000 war is a drug war, Okay. There is a constant propaganda war. 799 00:57:22.039 --> 00:57:25.119 There is a constant back and forth, there is a wwe like. Look 800 00:57:25.239 --> 00:57:29.440 again, Jesse Ventura not a guy who I always agree with but I love 801 00:57:29.480 --> 00:57:31.320 the way that he would get attention, and some of the things he said 802 00:57:31.719 --> 00:57:36.559 were extremely profound, Like he was the first guy I ever heard say, 803 00:57:36.599 --> 00:57:39.480 Look, it's just like the WWE, you know, f back then, 804 00:57:39.840 --> 00:57:45.360 But WWE, it's just that it is. Look, here's the good guy, 805 00:57:45.880 --> 00:57:47.800 here's the bad guy. We put him up on the screen. You're 806 00:57:47.800 --> 00:57:51.920 supposed to root for one or the other. And at the end of the 807 00:57:52.000 --> 00:57:57.400 day, it's the same corporations that pay them. They're not in mortal combat 808 00:57:57.440 --> 00:58:01.519 with one another. They're there for your entertain And meanwhile, the real point 809 00:58:01.559 --> 00:58:06.440 of the whole thing is to sell you the beer or the dope or whatever 810 00:58:06.480 --> 00:58:09.159 it is that we can give you to pacify you and complicate your life. 811 00:58:09.480 --> 00:58:14.639 Make sure you're being fed food that isn't food. Make sure you're breathing air 812 00:58:14.719 --> 00:58:17.800 that sucks. Make sure you're drinking water with fluoride in it, because at 813 00:58:17.840 --> 00:58:22.840 the end of the day, a sickly, you know, mentally distorted and 814 00:58:23.239 --> 00:58:30.800 drug addicted army is not going to be able to mount a logical campaign against 815 00:58:31.000 --> 00:58:37.599 the multiple weapons which are raied against humanity. Uh, you know, like 816 00:58:37.000 --> 00:58:40.000 this was the thing, Like that's why I loved used to love talking to 817 00:58:40.039 --> 00:58:45.159 Jordan Maxwell. You know, the late Jordan Maxwell was a was a great 818 00:58:45.159 --> 00:58:49.480 guy who could package this stuff and break it down for you and get you 819 00:58:49.519 --> 00:58:53.400 to pay attention to the way that even the language itself is weaponized against you. 820 00:58:54.119 --> 00:58:57.719 Uh. You know, some people found him silly and a little bit 821 00:58:57.760 --> 00:59:00.119 you know, pass by the time we got in to this time period just 822 00:59:00.159 --> 00:59:05.719 before his death, I didn't. I still found it extremely relevant to keep 823 00:59:05.800 --> 00:59:09.400 looking at what the reality is, how these things are used against you, 824 00:59:09.480 --> 00:59:15.199 how the monetary system is stacked against you. You know, if you're going 825 00:59:15.199 --> 00:59:19.880 into a casino to gamble, fair enough, but if they're stacking the deck 826 00:59:19.920 --> 00:59:24.480 against you and the game is always loaded so that the house can't do anything 827 00:59:24.519 --> 00:59:30.800 but win, then you're just there to pass time and you're not going to 828 00:59:30.880 --> 00:59:34.719 ever make any real progress. And until we're aware of how the game is 829 00:59:34.760 --> 00:59:37.519 played and we learn how to count cards, we're not going to have a 830 00:59:37.559 --> 00:59:42.440 fair shot even at the blackjack table, you know what I'm saying. So 831 00:59:43.320 --> 00:59:46.719 this is where it all goes. We have to adjust our thinking, and 832 00:59:46.760 --> 00:59:52.079 that's the point of doing all this stuff is to get people to seize upon 833 00:59:52.599 --> 00:59:57.159 their own cognitive skills. What's left of them, and to be able to 834 00:59:57.320 --> 01:00:01.119 utilize them, to do some critical think, to examine things for what they 835 01:00:01.199 --> 01:00:06.079 are, and to take a look at the actual reality, what truly changes 836 01:00:06.760 --> 01:00:10.320 over time, what is actually affecting you and why and what can you do 837 01:00:10.519 --> 01:00:14.960 about it? These are the things that have to be seized upon. And 838 01:00:15.000 --> 01:00:17.360 this is the overall point. So look, I've held on to you for 839 01:00:17.400 --> 01:00:21.639 about an hour here, and I didn't even mean to do that. I 840 01:00:21.679 --> 01:00:24.480 was gonna cut you shorter. And we did have the puppycam, you know, 841 01:00:24.599 --> 01:00:29.000 throughout, so for those watching on the video, you got to see 842 01:00:29.239 --> 01:00:32.960 Lena breastfeeding her puppies while I'm talking to I don't know a good thing. 843 01:00:32.960 --> 01:00:36.480 I don't go up on YouTube. They might consider it, you know, 844 01:00:36.960 --> 01:00:42.599 something that's not suitable for children or whatever. But I love cartoons taste, 845 01:00:42.639 --> 01:00:45.039 I really do. I'm a cartoon kind of guy. I'm a connoisseur of 846 01:00:45.079 --> 01:00:52.000 animation, and I love the stuff you do at Conspiracy Synergy and people you 847 01:00:52.000 --> 01:00:55.679 can go to Conspiracy Synergy dot com right and they can get that not just 848 01:00:55.719 --> 01:01:00.039 the tea dot ca a, but they can go to Conspiracy Sinery dot com 849 01:01:00.480 --> 01:01:05.639 and follow the show which is available on lots of different platforms. Uh, 850 01:01:05.880 --> 01:01:10.000 you can see it all all different way and it's really really entertaining and thought 851 01:01:10.000 --> 01:01:15.239 provoking, much like many of the statements that you heard Tease make tonight. 852 01:01:15.360 --> 01:01:19.400 So with all of that in mind, you know, I always love to 853 01:01:19.400 --> 01:01:22.920 do this, like, what what is the most important thing at the forefront 854 01:01:22.960 --> 01:01:25.440 of your mind? Is there a particular event? Is it? You know, 855 01:01:25.519 --> 01:01:30.920 should we be paying more attention to Gaza than anything else? Is it 856 01:01:30.360 --> 01:01:35.000 the war machine? Should we be paying attention to the you know, the 857 01:01:35.119 --> 01:01:40.880 selection you know TV show which let's see the twenty twenty four season of Coronavirus 858 01:01:40.960 --> 01:01:45.840 Apprentice is about to begin. And oh, by the way, I just 859 01:01:45.880 --> 01:01:49.519 want to point out to all of you alt media you know fanboys out there 860 01:01:49.880 --> 01:01:52.599 that you know, the grand panic over the fact that they were going to 861 01:01:52.679 --> 01:01:55.039 start masking us up and you know, trying to lock us down and everything 862 01:01:55.039 --> 01:02:00.360 else. You notice that didn't happen, you know, just say in a 863 01:02:00.360 --> 01:02:01.880 lot of your panic buttons that you're hitting, you're hitting them a little too 864 01:02:01.960 --> 01:02:07.119 soon. We're not panicking about the right thing, We're not reacting to the 865 01:02:07.159 --> 01:02:10.119 right stuff. So te Schnyder, what are the things that we need to 866 01:02:10.159 --> 01:02:15.159 react to and keep our eyes on as we go into twenty twenty four. 867 01:02:15.320 --> 01:02:17.159 Sir. Okay, So that's a great question. It's actually one of the 868 01:02:17.159 --> 01:02:21.119 most important questions. And firstly, we shouldn't be reacting, we should be 869 01:02:21.159 --> 01:02:24.679 responding. Reacting is what we do when we aren't really in control of the 870 01:02:24.760 --> 01:02:28.760 situation. And in order to be in control of the situation, there are 871 01:02:28.800 --> 01:02:30.239 a few things that you need to work on. First and foremost. One, 872 01:02:30.480 --> 01:02:34.920 do your shadow work, which is something when you actually confront your own 873 01:02:34.960 --> 01:02:37.079 personal trauma, so you aren't going out there and creating more drama and you're 874 01:02:37.119 --> 01:02:42.559 actually able to be able to make things better, not worse. Refine your 875 01:02:42.719 --> 01:02:47.480 social skills so that you aren't just coming off like an asshole calling everybody's shills. 876 01:02:47.559 --> 01:02:52.119 Instead, you're actually able to have the mature, conscientious conversations conducive to 877 01:02:52.239 --> 01:02:57.880 us taking the reins and building This is not about expecting other people to do 878 01:02:57.920 --> 01:03:01.760 the hard work for us. It isn't about the alternative media successfully making predictions, 879 01:03:01.800 --> 01:03:07.840 because ultimately that doesn't do anything other than keep the conversation centering the same 880 01:03:07.960 --> 01:03:10.920 basic issues. Instead, we're supposed to go out there and find the courage 881 01:03:12.159 --> 01:03:15.199 to do things like walk around the block and knock on our neighbor's doors to 882 01:03:15.280 --> 01:03:22.519 be able to understand that sometimes it takes having conversations, uncomfortable conversations that that 883 01:03:22.880 --> 01:03:27.519 more than once, and allowing other people to air their grievances upon you, 884 01:03:27.679 --> 01:03:30.920 throwing their full diapers, blaming the room for the smell, only to take 885 01:03:30.920 --> 01:03:35.760 the higher road, and in doing that, time and time again, lead 886 01:03:35.880 --> 01:03:38.519 by example. So this is one of those things where what we really need 887 01:03:38.599 --> 01:03:42.920 are leaders, but not the kinds who are going to betray us. We 888 01:03:42.960 --> 01:03:45.920 need to find a way to be that leader ourselves, and that's something that 889 01:03:45.960 --> 01:03:49.760 a lot of people, once again don't necessarily want to do because they've been 890 01:03:49.800 --> 01:03:53.400 told or had it suggested to them, or basically the idea that someone else 891 01:03:53.440 --> 01:03:55.880 is going to come along and save the day. But the reality is is 892 01:03:55.880 --> 01:04:00.000 that all we can do is give you the tools that you can use. 893 01:04:00.000 --> 01:04:03.719 Who's to be the person that inspires those around you, So don't focus on 894 01:04:03.760 --> 01:04:06.760 predictions. As far as all of the situation that we're in, this is 895 01:04:06.840 --> 01:04:12.119 like hundreds, if not thousands of years in the planning. It's something where 896 01:04:12.599 --> 01:04:17.840 even if we make headway in changing the situation with like the ongoing genocide going 897 01:04:17.840 --> 01:04:21.519 on in Palestine right now, I like to say, or the turn of 898 01:04:21.559 --> 01:04:27.119 phrase that I've come to insofar as understanding the situation with Israel is that it's 899 01:04:27.119 --> 01:04:30.320 a country so fake they had to name it Israel just to get you to 900 01:04:30.360 --> 01:04:32.960 believe in it. So for anyone who wants an appropriate point of citation for 901 01:04:33.000 --> 01:04:36.079 that, you can read the book Controversy of Zion, which was written by 902 01:04:36.119 --> 01:04:40.639 a dude named Douglas Read and he wouldn't publish it while he was alive. 903 01:04:40.880 --> 01:04:45.320 Because when you understand how powerful these power brokers are, they fundamentally depend on 904 01:04:45.360 --> 01:04:49.440 the way in which you live your life. So change it isn't as scary 905 01:04:49.480 --> 01:04:53.440 as it seems, even if it seems like it is. So find the 906 01:04:53.480 --> 01:04:57.760 courage do everything I just said, save the world. You have the power. 907 01:04:58.000 --> 01:05:01.079 That's it. That's it. There you go, And the very final 908 01:05:01.159 --> 01:05:06.480 question I'll tail on to it because you know we're now being confronted with again 909 01:05:06.760 --> 01:05:12.840 the change on the turn of phrase right where you know, Zionism in and 910 01:05:12.880 --> 01:05:17.679 of itself is just Israel's right to exist. And here's the fascinating thing. 911 01:05:17.760 --> 01:05:23.239 The people that want to determine who has a right to exist, Who has 912 01:05:23.280 --> 01:05:25.920 a right to exist, Who has a right to exist? Why do I 913 01:05:26.000 --> 01:05:31.599 keep repeating that because I was always under this strange impression that we all have 914 01:05:31.719 --> 01:05:35.559 a right to exist by virtue of your creation. I don't care who you 915 01:05:35.559 --> 01:05:39.519 think created you, whether it was some god or a group of gods, 916 01:05:39.639 --> 01:05:43.440 or it's just your parents getting together in the backseat of a Chevy baby. 917 01:05:43.840 --> 01:05:48.239 It is by virtue of your creation that you have this right to exist. 918 01:05:48.559 --> 01:05:54.440 Everybody does. One. Two. The last thing is, like you said, 919 01:05:54.639 --> 01:05:59.599 stop looking for a savior. Stop following the open auditions for David. 920 01:06:00.119 --> 01:06:04.320 Stop doing it, because the only savior you're ever going to find in truth 921 01:06:04.400 --> 01:06:11.400 in your life is one you can find in a mirror. That's it. 922 01:06:11.559 --> 01:06:14.239 You're the only one who's going to be able to take those actions. And 923 01:06:14.320 --> 01:06:16.639 if you want the world to change, you're going to have to change the 924 01:06:16.679 --> 01:06:20.639 world around you, and you have the ability to do it. The things 925 01:06:20.639 --> 01:06:26.239 that are within your reach, even random acts of kindness, can change the 926 01:06:26.320 --> 01:06:30.320 trajectory of the entire circumstance around you. It could be something as simple as 927 01:06:30.360 --> 01:06:34.960 helping a neighbor. It could be something as simple as participating in being on 928 01:06:35.039 --> 01:06:41.199 the right side of something and keeping somebody out of danger and preventing a problem, 929 01:06:41.920 --> 01:06:45.840 in making sure that you're not taking advantage of sure, but also you 930 01:06:45.920 --> 01:06:50.039 could be helpful to others and you never know what kind of result that can 931 01:06:50.119 --> 01:06:56.199 have. So again, conspiracy Synergy dot com. I'll spell it all out 932 01:06:56.199 --> 01:06:58.840 in the show notes and make sure to give you guys a couple other notes 933 01:06:59.119 --> 01:07:02.599 along with this podcast. T. Snyder was with me here on a Sunday, 934 01:07:02.599 --> 01:07:06.119 which is unusual. But no matter who you are, where you are, 935 01:07:06.199 --> 01:07:10.559 when you are, I want you to remember that I am merely O'Kelly, 936 01:07:10.639 --> 01:07:15.360 and all of you are indeed the effect and special Thanks to Lena and 937 01:07:15.440 --> 01:07:18.880 her seven puppies in the puppy cam there we got to look at them and 938 01:07:18.960 --> 01:07:33.440 T. Snyder during this discussion. O Chilly dot com, Wall Street Street 939 01:07:33.480 --> 01:07:45.440 Window dot Gold, Silver, the stock market, wall Stream Window dot dot 940 01:07:45.480 --> 01:07:49.719 Perhaps you're invested deeply, Perhaps you're not in deep enough. Maybe you're thinking 941 01:07:49.760 --> 01:07:56.719 about getting started Wall Street Windows do condo dot com. Michael Swanson, the 942 01:07:56.760 --> 01:08:01.079 brilliant author of the War State, understood these trends professionally for many years and 943 01:08:01.119 --> 01:08:10.119 now he gives you the benefit of his knowledge. 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