Hey, everybody, This is Left Strive. Yes, yes I know aka
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Got to sit down with Jeremy from Australia, and Jeremy has had some
really interesting experiences with what he calls yowie over there, we would know them
as sasquatch. Here. He's out in a research area with some of his
buddies and they've had some really cool experiences. I'll let Jeremy tell you all
about those in just a moment. Jeremy is Australian, he does have an
accent and he does talk really fast, so you may need to put on
some headphones and listen closely here to get everything that Jeremy's saying. But I
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guys are ready to get into it. Jeremy's on the line. He's ready
to go. Just sit back, relax and enjoy the show. I want
to welcome our guest of the show. It is Jeremy from Australia. Welcome
to the show Man. Thanks Eran, thanks for having me. I'm glad
to have you in person. We've played some of your voicemails in the past
and people got a little bit of a taste of what you've been experiencing over
there in Australia. But before we get to any of your experiences, let's
just talk about the subject in general. What got you interested in sasquatch and
bigfoot? Yahwe's in Australia. What got you interested in the subject to begin
with? I think like most people that is in the outdoors are growing up
on property or a farm. You're just interested in what else could be out
there. And as everyone says, I always thought there was only one running
around America or anything like that, or there's one running around Australa, there's
any one in each continent. That getting older just looking into the subject more,
especially once my brother in law told me about an encounter that was only
twenty minutes up the road, full daytime sighting that he had in the heart
of COVID where no one was supposed to be out anyway, one was on
lockdown for three months. So I just went, yeah, let's go have
a look. And that's what got me more into the subject. After watching
more and more stuff online, just gathering as much information as you can to
be like, hang on, there's actually more to this. There's not just
one. There's more than especially with all the podcasts and then finding yours as
well as the other popular ones. So there's actually a lot more to this
subject than just one running around the bush that someone sees as a mysical preacher.
Yeah, there's definitely a lot more than one. I've talked about that
before. I thought that as a kid, and I've talked to other people
who had that same experience early on in this and then you realize it's not
just Patty, It's not just that one out in California. They're everywhere.
And that's one of the things I wanted to do when I started the show
was document as many encounters as I could in the southeastern United States, where
I was born and raised, and now I've expanded into the UK. I've
talked to people in the United Kingdom, talked to Daniel Barn Daniel and I
are doing a show together on Sunday. He's found some more evidence recently,
and he's got some really the exciting stuff that he's coming out with. The
poo poos always say there's no way that could happen. It's the UK,
there's no Bigfoot, there's nothing over there. I don't know, I feel
like there is a possibility where there's a little bit of land for these things
to be. Who knows what's where? Right? Do you get that in
Australia to people say, oh, there's no way there's any sasquatch in Australia.
Do you get that? Well, you talk to people about the subject.
Yeah, I'm pretty careful with who I talk to. I'll always drop
it into a conversation and see their reaction obviously to be like okay, yep,
I k a rise out of them. I'll ask more, but a
lot of time again, oh that's just a bloody missmake. But it's easily
the people that don't believe in anything other than what they see on the news,
which is obviously scripted. So it's a bit like you just go okay,
yep, pill no worries, Yeah, hell yeah, they're just a
mythe what if you experienced stuff? Yeah, but you don't believe it.
There's not what me're telling you. I'm not here to convince you. I'm
just here to betray what I've experienced. And there's a lot more going on
than we expect, especially if you're used to the bush. They say we're
in their lund room. If you're there all the time, you can see
when things hang on. That tree shouldn't have broken like that unless there's been
a dead fall hitted or this was this twisted even though if it had grubs
eating at the wood, which we found, why is it twisted or why
is the tree always going to fall and then twist? It doesn't make sense
for a lot of the bush, especially the X markets, where you find
sticks stabbed into hard compact ground and you're like, what does that? A
person could have done it? You're there, I'm like, yeah, absolutely
on there. But these are stabbed in so deep that you would have need
to dig a hole first, and they'd be excess soil laying around. You'd
find the messy prints from people scuffing around the bush. Humans are messy.
That's my opinion on when you find something that seems too good to be true,
it's like, this isn't right, Like, humans are messy. We
turn our feet when we turn our head to look, so we'll turn and
scuff and so there's a lot of stuff that you see. And if you've
been in a bush a lot like I said that, you just go,
nah, there's something and there's something with hands. Obviously, you don't sit
around in your lounge room or your living room. For those in the United
States, you get out in the woods, you get out in the bush,
and you've had experiences, So why don't you just take us through what
you've experienced once you got out started looking into these things. What were you
finding and what have you experienced out there? Yep, So we went out
with my brother in law when he showed me that encounter, which he can
find on YouTube if you top in Bilberg Grove Yowie and it will be a
part one and part two that Australian Yowi researched it and they actually go out
with a witness and he talks them through it. And so we found the
area from the video online. We'd lined everything up, the log that had
fallen over in the creek bed, and we found the area and just from
being there you could feel the energy. You're like, oh, yeah,
this is it. So we started looking around, didn't really find anything the
first time. Every two or three weeks we'd go back. Each time we'd
find something slightly different. Well, that's a bit odd. Was that tree
over there that's not from this tree? How is that broken and landed under
the canopy. And though it's not from this same tree, something a dog
could have dragged it under. Something could have dragged it under. And so
we just keep going back, each time going deeper and deeper into the bush
because there are walking tracks. But we just find a creek for a game
trail and just go in. And it doesn't sound like much, but when
you're in a thick scrub that's up and down gullies or ravines that you call
are really small ones, you go, I'm stupid for coming out here,
Like, who the hell would just walk out here following a game trail from
some animal, whether it is. We don't have to worry about stuff like
bears and cougars. There's apparently mountain lions of all Fumus down south in Australia
that a lot of people have witnessed, which is part of our crypto as
well, because they're not supposed to exist here. So we'd keep going out
and follow game trails and we'd find we have an hour here for a powerful
hour, and they're huge and they pretty much don't have any predators except for
humans. We'd find like where one had been killed, but there was no
carcass, no bits of wing. As with most jomp big bush cats,
you'd see blood and stuff laying around. It was almost likely to be plucked
and left there, plucked down and it was taken away, saying with other
bird carcasses, but no carcass, just the feathers, like in a perfect
circle where someone had plucked them out or something and just left it there.
We'd find all these weird things to go, No one. We're doing this
in the National Park. So we're here, and we come here a lot
every two weeks, which it doesn't sound like a lot, but it is
when you're doing it every Tuesday week, getting out there and spending the time
sweating your ass off, especially if it's not winter, which is like,
there's got to be something. This is odd. And I ended up finding
a style of singing footprint Tasmanian tiger if you know they are growing up hunting,
going to a family farm down the print and I was like, what
is that? I just couldn't work out. It's not a dog, It's
not this. So I've took photos, obviously, sent it away to zoologists
and other ex park ranges and whatnot, and straight away came back that's a
thile scene. Not it could be this, it could be that that's a
thile scene. So we were just like, holy trap. And they confirm
that there's been reports to where they don't want to get it out there because
more people just go and hunt them down. But a lot of ranges see
them with family groups with pups and stuff, so we were looking for that
as well. It was like, yeah, this is where the year residing
has happened, but there could be a bloody thila scene here, and if
we get footage, that's amazing, as amazing as getting a year we all.
So one day we went out to the park and this is the day
of the maining caunter that we've had. After finding all the weird bushing,
beel like, oh, there's definitely something going on. So we'll keep going
back to the same area because if their creatures have had it, we're going
to run into it eventually, whether it's years, days, months, whatever.
So we went out and we were walking through the back of the park
because we know the back entrance heading in, we were like, where is
everyone. There's no one here. Usually there's one or two cars, people
having barbecues. They're walking through the main car park area. Ended up getting
to whether walking trails sort of end, and there's a big fire trail that
runs around the park that the rangers use. And on the sign there,
which is near the main gate down from a hill, it said park close
due to back burning. So the gates at the top were actually locked.
Because we came in the back way we could just walk straight in and have
free roam of it. And we're reading it and said it'd been closed for
two weeks, one to two weeks already, and the day we were there
was the last day of it, and we were like, that's weird.
There's no fresh burn. You can smell a fresh burn with a backburn,
because it's that much bush that's been burnt off that it's just lingers that smell.
And we're like, this is really weird. There's definitely no burn off.
We couldn't smell any fresh burn. So we kept walking in and we
got up to into the creek where we go and research where I found the
print. There's a game trail that crosses over the creek and the creek bank
there is about two meters tall, maybe two and a half three. So
we went straight up the bank there that game trail where we found that print,
to go and look for a dens. That was the idea, Okay,
we'll be quiet, we could find a den under a shrub here or
a lantana or whatnot. When we got up there, it was like a
highway of game trails, just a warren and you could see like small mammals.
That one was probably a fox or wallaby. This one lots. This
one that's a bit bigger. I could be a deer running through that one.
It's just all varying sizes. So there's plenty of food out there that
we're ready. You, especially in the creek, there's fresh craze and everything.
Catfish eels to like everything. There's a little dam there and it never
runs out of water that dam, and there's always food there. So it's
definitely a haven. You can say it's definitely a haven. So we walked
up in there and my mate splipped to the right and I kept going forward
a little bit to the left, just looking at the game, just trying
to find more prints in the mud under the grass. But there's all thick
bush around as well. But it was almost too clear the area to be
like, they can't just be kangaroos and shit doing. It's like it's so
opening here. It's just ridiculous because the hill goes up from us, up
the ridge and it's all thick bush, and all of a sudden, I
fear this film. I'm like, hang on rhythmic tapping almost like the indigenous
here used like a music stick and it's a hard stick and they hit it
on another hard stick, but sounded like one of these sticks on a hollow
log up on the ridge halfway, which is only probably you'd get an eighty
meters macks away from us, and this noise was It just stopped me in
my tracks. Obviously, with this subject, I don't see myself as one
as the people that we all know that's Oh, you're the bigfooter. You're
the go oh yeah, Bigfoot's real, right, everything's big Footnote I'm pretty
rational. You've got to be otherwise you do look like a dickhead when it
comes to that, and people say, oh, he believes in bigfoot.
He thinks everything's bigfoot. No, you can't look at everything it's bigfoot.
So it's instantly my brain went to, is that a frog sounds like a
frog? No, it's not a frog. And then again, and I've
recorded everything, all my encounters and everything are recorded, because it's when you're
not recording that shit happens usually. I was listening to it, going,
no, that's is it a frog? I don't know? And I called
my MATEO. I was like, right, he's only about twenty meters away,
and he came back over. I said, did you hear that is?
Yeah, it sounds like a girl going what what? So from where
he was he could hear the what. But where I was, it sounded
like a hard stick on a whole and it was rhythmic and timed, and
it wasn't like a branch swaying in the wind. There was no wind that
day to do anything like that. And usually trees croak in they're on each
other. So we're like, okay, we could bit that. It sounds
like frog. You heard something different, so we don't know what it is.
Let's make our way up whispering the whole time, obviously, let's make
our way up to where this is and see if we can find what's doing
it. And within I'm not even joking, like three to five steps slowly
going through the bush, single file. On the other side of it's about
fifteen twenty menus aways, this big wall of lantana and bushes that blocks sheep
from seeing in. And we hear this like a cow sized animal russell and
get up and then we just froze. And it was all like, all
systems go, that's too big to being able to bush. They shouldn't be
out here hanging on with something going on. This is all going through my
head and my mate froze as well. My mate is one of the people
that hear any noise. He just runs straight after it, even if it's
just the middle of the night. And I'm like, yeah, I'm not
doing that, but even he hearing this, just froze. And where the
creek bank goes down where that noise was, that fifteen meters down and it's
almost vertical. You've got to go hands and feet. I've done it before,
but you've got to go so slow otherwise you'll just slip catch on roots
and have a very bad day. That were just froze and hearing that noise,
and it made the russele for about two seconds and then nothing for another
two or three seconds, and then all of a sudden dan and the creek
you hear something big just landed in the creek. So it didn't run down
the vertical slope. It jumped off or went halfway and jumped. And it
was that big that when we heard it land you could hear clear two feet
landing. It wasn't hooves, It wasn't a kangaroo hopping because they've got really
thin feet, as people would know from seeing them. They don't make this
large pad impact sound in the creek there it's all rock hopping. You literally
can't run up the creek and you got to rock hop the whole way.
There's big boulders down to little pebbles, so it's all that sort of terrain.
And this thing just started stomping as soon as it landed, all the
way towards where our game trail was that we came up, which is probably
forty metres down the creek. There wasn't even like a flight or fight.
It was don't fucking move and listen to what this thing's doing. Because it
was clear by people to where we both frozen were just like, that's bigger
than us. It was easily minimum one hundred and fifty dollars minimum. It's
probably way more than that, but that's just trying to be conservative. And
this thing was just stomping up the creek. It got to this body of
water that was maybe six hundred mili deep and just so like someone coming out
of the ocean as fast as they could sh And when it did that,
my watch couldn't record my heart rate to stopped recording it. It was going
that fast. My mate was just you could tell. And when people say
they can't hear anything, for me, it was one. There was no
birds around that day. They're all in the surrounding areas but not where we
were. But all I could hear it was just my heart racing in my
head to the point where it was like that's felt like I was teetering on
having a panic attack. So I had to talk to myself and med,
no, this is what we're here for, taking deep breaths and just listening.
And then it stopped. It didn't keep walking, it stopped after it
hit the body of water, and it was almost like, obviously this is
an after thought, like half fast bluff charge because I think that day because
the wind comes down the creek, so we'd have the upper hand on anything
that was up further in the creek. I think we snuck up on them
resting because after the big one stopped, and I say a big one,
because that was the heaviest one we heard, which it would have only been
bloody twenty meters away from it was down if we went back down to the
creek now, like right there. And I think that's what scared us,
because obviously we obviously listen into a lot of podcasts and a lot of information.
People say if there's young ones, like with any wild animal, you
don't go near it. So all this is running through my head because we
all of a sudden we hear another one land exactly where the big one laded,
but it was significantly lighter in weight than what the big one was.
And then it started walking up the creep like a pitter pad, almost like
three steps and five steps, and then literally ten twenty seconds after another one
landed the little one was and they were about the same size, like the
same weight, those two, and we heard them slowly making their way up
to the big one where we heard the sound last. But as they went
along, you'd hear them pick up a big rock and then drop it again
like or shuffle it. And it was clear. We knew that noise because
obviously people picked up rocks for it and you put them back down. It's
not something stepping on it like a wallaby hopping or anything. And there was
three of these creatures i'll say beings, I don't know, but what the
only thing it could be, which what we had in the Australian bush is
a yarie because cassiary is probably the next biggest thing that a black beetle.
But obviously they've got little dinner feet that wouldn't make this bloud downs else sprinking
at you, and they wouldn't even be able to sprink down. Now,
if you watch the videos, it's all rock hopping, it's slippery, it's
just ridiculous. So these things were moving their way up with the big one
as well. We could hear the pitter patter and you can hear it on
the video. And that's one thing that I thought. I was like,
this is awesome. No one can dispute this. I've got clear evidence that
this is a large blipedal creature with other ones following it, stomping down the
creek and picking up rocks. You can hear them drop it and even my
mate at the time he whispers in the video, it's the water. It's
in the water. After we've heard the big ones slosh through, you can
hear the little ones like stepping through the water as well. But the thing
that was just scarings is that we had no visual It was all sounds,
so you could all you could hear was this huge being just stomping up the
creek towards you, and then the little ones picking up rocks. And we
thought that there was a point where we were like, they don't know that
we're here, so they're actually looking for food. I think they'd then started
off, we'd get up mood on, but as we go obviously, like
anything would you look food as you go along, it was just so clear
that it was picking up rocks and putting them down. So we were like,
that's nothing else in the Aussie bush. There's nothing that does that.
You'd hear it if it was a pig shifting her off with its nose,
but it snout sorry, and it wasn't anything like that. But while that
was happening down there, we could hear when they'd stop. In between ten
twenty seconds, they'd stop and then start walking in and it was almost like
when the big one did it initially when he was pausing and then stepping again
to try and get us to move, to see if we're still there,
Like just the feeling you got from that he's trying to see, like shuffle
around, like juking someone, like making them go this certain way, or
But while that was happening, in between the brakes of him walking up in
the bush, where we heard the knox or mouth pops, however you want
to perceive that they do these things, we could hear it slowly shuffling around
up on the ridge above us. And there's a point where we go again
we're like, holy shit, what are we going to do. You've got
a knife on you, but that's not going to do anything like you wouldn't
even try and fight something like this, especially when they had young ones.
So we were just standing there listening and I'd say, I know it's all
good. This is what we're here for. Just wait for them to move.
So if you think they're going to fuck off, And this is coming
from someone who used to chase after stuff that he didn't even know what was,
he hear it and kiss off bolting in the bush, and even he
was so scared. Well, we were both frightened, like it was more
than it was like an ancient fear ingrained in our DNA. We've heard these
things before in the past, but it was our ancestors, and this is
ingrained in your DNA. Leave them alone and the other way that we let
them get down and to a point where they were almost that where our game
trail was, but obviously we're two meters high at that point. And then
a commercial plane came over the park and it was so loud that we're like,
okay, it was almost snapped us out. At okay, let's move
with it back towards the trail because if we see them there. And we
took maybe ten fifteen steps, but not big ones because then the sound of
the plane went. But obviously, as people say, these things are so
smart, once the plaine noise was gone, you could hear like twenty meters
past our game trail, back down the creek. You could hear a rock
shuffle every six or so meters, So they'd obviously pissed off with the noise
as well as fast as they could or whatever it was, and they were
gone. But there was a point where I was filming down the trail,
the game trail, and it looked like one of their heads walked past,
and I just went, did you take likes oly shit? This thing is
all that? But it was a wallaby coming up that game trail. Then.
The good thing about it, though, was that we couldn't hear it
until it was up on the same level we were with it's hopping and it
was no any even being like plausible that was the noise we heard because it
didn't even know there. It saw us, like almost face to face,
slid over trying to jump away like it looks crazy, like losing its shit.
I've seen him out there before and they don't skitch like that. That
was like a bit weird with the whole scenario that just happened. Were they
hunting the wallaby? Were they resting under the tree before where we walked up
on them. This wallaby didn't even know that we were there. It just
goes to show that we could easily sneak up on a wallaby, but just
its reaction to us being right there all of a sudden, it literally fell
over sideways and had to regain itself and then pissed off. So we walked
down the creek after that, and it was like looking around a corner in
a horn of house, Shit, is there anything there? Are they down
the creek and being real cautious, and we couldn't see anything but the whole
energy of the area. I think it was from our adrenaline dup. And
then the after math of that and it was like they're gone, there's nothing
here anymore. You could just feel like there was nothing left in the area.
Birds came back and it was just like, what the hell did that
really just happen. We were both like, it's all funny games looking for
y Hooi's or Bigfoot, but then when it comes real, it was shit.
These things are real, which we always believed, but obviously, until
you experience something, you'll see something you'll never know. But even after this
experience, it's either you lead the subject fully and don't do it again because
it's so terrifying, or you need more arm answers to questions and stay tuned
for more sasquat chotausy, we're going right back after these messages. So we
walked up the creek where they would have jumped down, and we found clear
impressions in the gravels and sand, and you could literally see where it had
stepped in the water and stepped over a rock from all the water dripping off
its foot, and it was like, isn't a wall of bit This is
wide? Like this is a footstep. But we actually found two separate footprints
that day, one smaller one and then one really wide. It was maybe
like a size ten to eleven us, but it was so wide and you
could see the toe impressions and everything. I think I've sent you that photo.
I've sent you a few other footprints. If down and you could see
there's only one. There's always only one, which I just don't understand.
And the only thing I can put to that is I've been told since being
a subject by indigenous people that they used to have a treaty with them,
and they'd all work together in trade and whatnot, same as the Sasquatch did
with the Native Americans. Obviously, it's like people. They all have different
moods each day. And when they'd steal indigenous people's kids, obviously they'd hunt
them down and track them. So they said that if you see one print
and there's any one, it's a misstep. They've realized. I was shit,
I've left the print. I can't just scuff it up because that looks
obvious. And then they go and step somewhere where they're not going to leave
tracks anymore, because every time I've found prints, it's always only one or
I left and right and then nothing more. The gate between the princes that
I found was literally two meters and you can't even jump and do that because
you'll see that at the skid. So you can look at these prints and
go they're all the same depth. They're not pushed and skidded, They're not
made by a person. It's a clear left and right foot. Given the
clear left foot that I found, it's just so wide wider than a work
with a steel toe that you're like, this isn't someone's bare foot. Who
would be walking through here with bare feet when they have the most venomous snakes
in the world of the spiders as well, like all the stuff we have
in the all the bussi bush, I wouldn't even I like granding myself and
everything, but I wouldn't even take my boots off out there, just in
case because of all the spiders and shit running around. So that was the
first encounter. Add We actually planned to stay that night around the dam,
and we sat up above the dam un till about seven thirty, and it
was dark at about six thirty, just listening to the video again, listening
to the footsteps, listening to the shuffling through the water, and going like
did that happen? It felt like a dream. It literally felt like a
lucid dream. And we both just went I'm not feeling anything like this.
I don't feel like they're still here. Let's go home. So we went
home that day and reflected on it for a couple of weeks. I think
it took me about six to eight weeks from the encounter to actually upload it
because the whole time people are just gonna call me crazy. This is a
joke. I'll just put it on there so anyone can watch it, because
you get those random channels where there's one little video here that's pretty significant,
like you can't see anything in not seeing a blob, squatch or whatever,
but they've got a clear footprint that's not a human footprint or anything like that.
So I uploaded it. Since then I was like, Oh, let's
just keep going out. There's something to this. We need more answers.
To these questions that we'd go out every two to three weeks, I quite
regularly, and it was almost like a routine thing for it. We've got
to go get milk. Oh, we've got to go squatching, just one
of those things. And my mate started working a lot more. My brother
in law he couldn't make it anymore. So I'm going by myself. And
I used to shoot by myself every now and now it's easy to sneak up
on things. You'd be more quiet. I know a lot of people say,
especially the Creep Devil team Will Jevny and for us, they say,
you don't go by yourself. It's the craziest thing you could do. You
don't even know. They could be behind a tree and we're just grabbed the
done. But as there's something the drive in me, it was like I
just keep going. I need to not If it's not to prove people wrong,
it's to prove myself right to myself. So if I ever do get
clear footage, I don't think I'll be uploading it or showing it because one
we're all in misprotect them too. We don't want anyone to just go out
there and be stupid, but straight away someone to just go oh ai,
that's ai, Like it's not real, so there's no point. It'd just
be shot to your close friendship, better in the subject and whatnot. So
I'd start going out blinde myself a fair bit and finding a lot. When
I found the footprints, it was by myself. I was going to cast
it. I had casting the till, but there was still that part of
me going, no, that's a person. It's a person. Can't be,
can't be. But per people don't leave one singular flat the whole way
through a footprint with toes and all with no kickup, like no step off,
was almost like it was a straight down step and then gone within a
two meter radius. There was no other footprints in the creek bed. And
this is all like coarse sand. I was leaving prints with my boots,
but even me standing beside it with my hard compact boots, I couldn't even
get half the depth that this pad print was. So this is a barefoot
path. It's a lot softer. It's not going to be able to go
as you used with your snow shoes. It sits on top, it's got
more surface area, and being a pad, you think, yeah, it's
not going to go down, but my boots being hard, you're like,
yep, this is going to easily make more like nope, you need about
twice your weight to get that deep with that print. So I do kick
myself for not pass in that one. That day i found those, I
was like, they're still here, Yes, something's going on. And then
I find the left and the right foot that I was just talking about,
and then trying to work out the gate between it, and that was obviously
a younger one because there were only maybe a US eight size foot, but
just why you can tell when it's not the person like a humans footprint because
they're just so wide as a barefoot, and you're like, this is ridiculous.
This is a frigging ape or something like what's running around there? And
that day I think that I found the footprints, I head up further up
the creek, further than we've ever been, and it just it goes on
forever and then ends up at some rock pools and like a seasonal waterfall and
everything, so it's all pristine. There's always water in it in the pools
to an extent, so there's always life there. It's just it was a
weird thought, like I just decided I'm going to go up. I'm just
going to cut into the bush here because it looks like there's a bit of
the game trailer this ridge one, but instead started heading up in there and
they ended up finding it was like it stuck out like dogs balls too,
like a Neon sign X marker. There's this big six foot X marker and
they were both from the same tree like that, and it was broken,
but it had been put the other way on it and stabbed into the ground.
And I was just like, this is nah, Like you read about
this, you hear about it another podcast, and nah, this isn't Did
someone do this? Yeah, someone could do it. If I'm up here,
someone could do it. But I've had to push you a bit of
bush, so no one's been here for a long time. And this is
not that old really, it was an old dead tree that was snapped and
made into that. It was just too surreal, like this is too good
to be true, Like I've actually found a large X marker stabbed or let's
say, three inches into the ground, but being like as sick as your
forearm size branch, maybe bigger, and it had a fresh green sapling under
it, and I was like, if I can pull this out and it
flings back up, someone's done this because this hasn't fallen like that, especially
with the canopy above. It didn't have room for it to fall. Like
you've ruled out everything being rational, Okay, let's look at this. There's
no dead fall that made it do that. It couldn't get bounced off this
and hit that. So the only thing the conclusion was someone's done this or
something has done this, because unless you see what's doing it, you can't
just assume. But it lines up with everything in the subject. That's what
yeah we do, that's what sasquatch do, bigfoot, yeah, and all
that. So I grabbed that sapling out and it went pulling and flung straight
back up, and it was down under the middle of the X market and
I'm like, Okay, that's weird because you could see the leaves on the
sapling were just starting to grow facing the sun, so they'd only been there
not long. But that log and X marker looked like it had been there
a lot longer than they had been growing under there. And the fact that
it's sprung back up something or someone's put that there with how it is,
and I'm like, okay, and you start feeling it in the area,
and the first du I found that when I was Actually it was a week
later after finding that x mark, cause I didn't find anything more that day,
went home. We came back a week or two weeks later because I
was I think I found an area where they might freak in a lot more
like this is in the bath part of the bush where no one goes up
a creek, not near any walking trails or anything. And as I was
walking back up the ridgeline from the creek into that X markt spot, it
was like the anything I can put it down to is either whether it's like
the indigenous spirits in the area or infrasound. Because there was no wind that
day or anything, it was sweaty and I was but it was the same
thing every time I went in, and I had the same breakfast, same
amount of water, all that so that everything's in line was what would normally
happen. And I just got this feeling like I shouldn't be here, this
isn't right, something's not right. All the hair stood up on my arms,
my whole body, my neck and everything all the hair went up,
and I was like, something's not right. I've never had this for even
even when I used to hunt, like I've just and all of a sudden,
the sickness hit my stomach. I'm like, oh, feeling in your
mouth. I think I'm going to throw up. What's going on? I
was like, nah, I got to leave. Something doesn't want me here.
I got to leave, and I started walking away. Within five steps,
I was like, no, if this is in for sound, this
is what I'm here for. I want to try and get a rise,
maybe see what's going to happen. Turned around and were literally like two three
steps, like a light switch, bang, everything stopped. No sick feeling,
the hairs weren't standing anymore, the whole energy. It was just like
and it was straight away, WHOA, that was weird. Something's going on.
So I left that day because I was like, no, something's not
right in this area. Left out, and then another two three weeks gone,
went back out to the same area, up a bit further from the
X marker on the ridge and by myself again a lot deeper in the bush.
And I've got my pardner and my two year old, so they're always
in the back of my mind like Okay, don't do anything stupid, don't
go down crazy climbs or anything like just watch step takes time. I always
were on a snake gator, so I get bitten by a snake and can't
make it out. I was walking up and filming examining another sackling that had
been put under an old log that had hits for old grass growing over it,
but it was a fresh new sackling that had been put under it to
make like an archway over a gang trail, and it's just you just look
at it and go, how did that happen when it's so young compared to
the old log, and like looking at it with the camera examine it,
and I hear this and as I look up, hearing like sounded like a
huge deadfall branch, but it was like someone was either hanging on it and
the gradual weight was then just breaking. And as I look up, if
you count one two, as you're about to say two, that's as long
as I saw whatever the hell it was in the tree, obviously trying to
climb down a tree slowly, and it was stood on a branch, and
it was just look up and you see this black hairy mass with its head
tucked in, almost looking like firemen poled down the tree. So to me,
it was just an oval black hairy shape because the edges were all blurred,
So to me, that's hair. It's not just a bloody apparition up
in a tree with physical weight breaking branches. And it was at least an
average man size, like my size. I'm almost six foot, I'm like
one seven eight or something like that high. I'm not crazy at all,
but I'm not sure. But just an average man's size with a stick wooly
coat on was what I saw. Fireman polling down a stick tree because obviously
the branch broke under it trying to be careful coming down. And then I
just paused. I was like, okay, that was either a big burnt
dead fall from bushwise ages ago or like talking to the camera because I'm like,
holy shit, like just my next thing, like something's happening, and
I just went, okay, I got to go have a look like nothing
ran out. I waited about three to five minutes. Nothing ran out.
Whatever it was just fell and landed and didn't move. So waiting that time,
see something run out where you'd hear like a pit of padder, you
know what things sound like when they're runing through bushes or running on the ground
with leaf litter in the middle of the bush. So I was like,
okay, so I had to go down this little gully, now back up
the other side, and every twenty steps or so, I'd stop and listen
and talk to the camera, real calmly, okay. Hidden up here,
and you'd find even more weird wind four branches, but some were facing the
other way. This is weird in here, just odd bush. You don't
usually see it like this, almost like it's been put there to stop things
or people from coming through. And I ended up finding a heelium balloon.
I was like, this, what the hell? Hell of the hell does
the heelium balloon blowing here through all the stick panopy as well it can do,
but just like fucking humans, typical rubbish everywhere in the middle of the
bush where no one normally walks. I picked that up and walked over to
where I thought, why I saw this thing, which is the same area,
And I couldn't find any black, dead full branches. You couldn't see
anything the same size or shape, color, It's only about twelve foot away
from me, these bushes, and I'm like with the camera like I can't
see anything. And I was like, look up to the ridge the camera
and all right, at those bushes, they're just stuck going someone grabbing onto
it and shaking back and forth. It wasn't something crimbing out going. It
was literally you grab a branch and you shake it really hard. And it
was only doing it for about two seconds. I turned back to it quickly
and then the video can just see them stop moving, and I just went,
hell, loop, it's right there. It's right there. It's right
there. It's any twelve feet away looking around waiting no response, nothing more
shaking. And I'm here standing in the middle of the bush, down a
raffine, up another gully, bit going how the fuck am I going to
get out of here without running like a chase. This is all these thoughts
going through my head, and I just went I was probably a go one
or anything and going now, and in my head, I'm just like,
that's not a dolata, that's not a law. Nothing ran out. I
just had the bushes shaken at me, and obviously, being heavy into the
subject, I'd heard and been told by indigenous people, if you get the
bushes shaken at you, that's a warning to leave the area. They're trying
to scare you off. All I could picture in my head was it doesn't
want me here. It was pretty much like a meat I was black bear,
bec a small black bear over there. That's the size and what it
looked like, scaling down the true Obviously we don't have beers here because they
wouldn't bloody be able to survive just with the heat alone. And I just
slowly went out, but I was a bit disorientated after that, and I
slipped down the gully and fell on my arms, dropped the camera and it's
in the video as well, and I'm just like walked out and actually got
not lost, but just disorientated getting back out. I just kept going over
the gullies instead of down to the creek and then out, And it was
just a bit almost again like it was a dream, like it was too
surreal, like this shit like this is happening common, like this is often
this is within three months of the original account, Like this is so soon,
this is happening again. They're obviously still in the area. So I
recorded myself straight away saying the exact account that happened, and even send it
to Sarah Bignore who runs a Yario podcast here in Australia, and she used
to work a lot with the AAI, getting reports and interviewing people and we've
actually become good mates to do with it all the subject and I sent it
straight to her and spout that's insane. Like I've heard a lot about bush's
being shaken and it's a warning to get out of the area. So after
that happened, it just fueled the fire over more. I've got to see
this. Even though I saw what I saw, A black, hairy mass
isn't arms and legs in a head, It isn't IDEs looking back at me.
You want that face to face, but maybe from a bit more of
a distance in twelve forty six meters where it's shaking the bushes, saying I
don't want your here, but I want to talk to you. Get out.
Even then he said hello, I'm not responding and looking back on the
video comparing it, I've been back to that same spot, taken a photo
standing in the same area, lining up the trees, and there's just this
dark shadow right where I've actually climbed in where it was under this lantana with
a tree gray in the mill. There's like a small, not massive,
maybe a meter diameter of open area under the shrub, and I climbed in
and I grabbed the tree and I shook it again, and it was the
exact thing. I'm like, whatever it was, it did, it was
standing right way in here. So I went back, took the photo and
you can compare, and in the photos you can see the shadow. You
can make leaves out the shadow, but there's a shadow in the original encountered
screenshot where it's just so dark that you can't see any leaf or anything,
or even a branch behind it that we've lined up. It's annoying because no
matter how much effects and everything you put on it, you can't tell there's
so much leaf over it, which is typical. And even filming on a
phone. I film on Android. It's got a really good camera. The
audio never translates in person to what it is when you're film it, so
you can still hear I'm shaking, but it's just I'm like, oh,
like again, this is so loud in person that they can't even describe it.
The people from a video, you've got to point it out almost to
where the sound is. And so even seeing that and everything, I still
went, I've got to kick going. I need to see for myself.
I need to know. So we'd go out. I met up with a
mate who was a mate now, but he contacted me through my YouTube channel
about it all because he's had stuff happened to him when he was a kid,
and he actually saw when he was twelve or in the end of or
Man up north in the northern tip of Australia, and they thought it was
an indigenous bloke, but they were like, why wasn't he wearing a loincloth.
He's just this juncture just hanging out. He's got grayskin, like he
should be blackshit, and he like all these thoughts and he didn't realize till
later and you went to a museum and they had a statue of in the
end it Man. That's exactly what I saw like in the bush, and
I was like, that's pretty insane. So we ended up linking up and
I took him out and showed him the X mark and everything, and we
started doing a lot of research together because my brother in law was working a
lot more and he couldn't actually make it out. So we started going out
a lot more and expanding the area of investigation research. I put it loosely
in quotes because obviously we're all just doing no one's an expert. You can
call it research, but you're just out there trying to finances for yourself.
We ended up going to there's a huge power line isn't running through the park,
and obviously, with a lot of stories, Blot of Gain uses the
power line trail to travel through because it's a quicker access to areas. We
started having a look up near there and we started finding all these new breaks
and we're like, this is really weird. You can follow the trail up
the hill, you'd find a break here. Another ten or so meters up,
you'd find another break over another ten meters over, like just weird breaks.
And they'd all have that little twist to it as well. And some
of them were fresh green, like only a couple of weeks, like two
weeks old. It was like this is like someone's done this. There's no
dead fall or anything. A deer can't push past this or a wild goat
and snap it and twist it like, what's going on, there's no handmer,
it's just weird. We'd follow that up the hill. Just as i'd
press stop on my recording to start a new video, because I don't just
let it run. We hear this big thud and a russell like a cow
Matts for my mate that I go with, Matt, he described at first
it was like a cow getting up. It was like thud, like clear.
The thud was just too loud to be a kangaroo jumping or anything.
And if it was a kangaroo, you'd hear them continually jumping down the gully
or whatever. A big thud in a russell. And we just looked at
each other and I went We waited about a minute, and I went,
we're not missing out of this again. So I said, hand signed it.
I'm going to go up the hill. I used to hear and record
and just keep an eye out. So I went around up the hill fast
but trying to be quiet. And as I was going up, there was
a big gully down to my right that was probably forty meters down, like
huge. I could hear this little rustle every so often, but almost like
it was a leaf falling on ground. But it was way down the gully.
It's not a leaf falling in because that's land to me. Same with
the initial one. When the plane went over, you'd hear it like every
six meters or so, like further and further, like too fast to be
like, what the hell's doing that? And as I was walking up,
I could hear that little russ around there. Didn't really pay any intention to
because the noise we just heard in front of me, it was like a
huge animal getting up. So I was the cow with a sud. I
got up down like there's nothing up here, Matt, come up here.
And so we had a little look around and did a loop of the area
and it goes right up to the top of the hill where the power line
cut is, and there's no trees there, but there's two perfectly snapped saplings
like bent and writing or twists. So you've literally gone like that yourself with
your hands, not a gradual lean and snapped over perfect bend and twists.
And we're like, what is going on? This is what everyone finds around
the world, This is all it is. We just heard that huge thing.
I've had my other two experiences that can only be that. Then we
sat there and Matt was like on the fence about it. All. I'd
like to believe they're real, but I haven't experienced enough yet. Even though
he saw it in the end of for me in even with that instance him
hearing what heard because he used to raise anything that big would make so much
noise running away from us with this leaf litter and dry ground, yeah,
it's insane. Like reflecting on what just happened, We're like, let's go
have another look where we think we heard it. And we ended up finding
this perfect bedding area where all the grass had been laid down flat from something
laying in there under all this dead logs and sticks. Check this out,
What the hell's going on? And I didn't take my therm all that day,
my therm or monocular because I would have been able to look in there
and see if something had just been laying in there. But I ended up
crawling in there and going, this is huge in here, Like you could
fit three grand men side by side laying flat in here. And the weird
thing about it was there was this branch in front of it, looking down
here where we just came from. That was all the dead branches at the
end, the thin end at the ground, but the thick end off the
tree was facing up, and we're like, this is weird. How'd this
fall in? We looked up. That hasn't come from here. There's no
fresh breaking. You could see even though it was a dead old branch,
you could see it was fresh exposed to the elements, the light brown in
a part of the branch, And we're like, why was that facing up?
If that snapped off a branch above us, that would have fallen down
directly where it had fallen from. And we couldn't find within a ten meter
radish around any broken branches. So whatever made the thud, someone has done
this has put that branch in up that way to block out the view from
coming up the hill, So you would be a completely camouflage, especially if
you're a dark shape. And I even layd in there and got map to
go down the hill moll and he's I can't see Yeah. I can only
see you because I know that you're there. If I didn't know you were
there, i'd just walk straight past you. That was the first like bedding
area that we found of something large, especially with the grass trails where kangaroos
run through. But whatever this thing was that made the noise, they'd gone
down the galley oricon and then back up this little offshe season or stream.
But you could hear it rustling every so often. But how quick they move
and how quiet they can be, it's just it's stupid. It's not fair
to try and play catch them or anything. You're just waiting that extra If
you wait five seconds, you're going to miss it. That's the conclusion I've
come to you. Now. You can't really wait, so you got to
try and override your fear or self preservation to go. This is what I
want to see. I need to go now. But you need to know
the risks. Obviously, if that's the case, since then, had no
more experiences where hearing or seeing things come out of trees or running away and
stomping. But I've found a lot of freshwater cry cause perfectly broken at the
knuckle, sucked clean, not pecked by a bird where you'd see like fractures
and everything. You can just tell when because everyone's majority of people who didn't
seefeed. You know how you do it. Sucked clean, whatever left side
by side on the middle of a rock in the middle of a string.
I'm like, water rats don't do that. There'd be nibbles everywhere and bits
of shit everywhere laying around. They're finding lots of little things like that.
You'd find big rocks shifted out of the way and you try and move it.
You're like, hey, I can't move this. This is ridiculous.
You find like little diggings. The same with the bird feathers just scattered everywhere.
And even before my mate and I had that main encounter where we heard
them stomping up the creek, we walked up near the power on track just
being like we just get walking on the track, but it doing early into
it and the smell wafted in and it was the only thing that I can
put it to the closest thing I've ever smelled was a male goat that kisses
all over itself or its pheromones and to attractive females and they stink it's rotten.
And it wafted it in from below us the creek down belowst it lingered
around for about two minutes and we were puffing. I'm walking up the still
going you smell that and you're like yeah, we stopped and like, oh
it suon as like a goat or like a cattle yard or a cattle truck,
just stinky, like kissing shit. And then it went away and we're
like, oh, that's weird, And we chilled there for a bit,
had a drink of water. It was coming on dark a bit. We
waited a bit. About five minutes later, the smell wafted back in from
the same direction. That was like something was laying or sitting down there,
And if it was a goat, it was all antana and you cannot move
through that shit without making any noise unless you are snake or something. Even
then snakes make noise in it. But whatever it was, we were just
like, that's really weird. Maybe it's one of them how people say they
stink cut. We don't know, just assuming well, inconclusive like most things
you find, even with finding all the brakes and twists, it's really inconclusive
until you see something doing it or fine hair on it or well. The
only thing is that we're all finding it around the world in all different cultures.
They've had stories of it and what to do when you come across them,
and it all lines up with everything, so everyone's finding the same shit.
And no one can prove that it's a natural animal doing it. So
not that these things aren't natural. These are the most natural thing that would
be out there that could do this, the most plausful thing. But when
you're finding stuff like that, and we have continuously, you just go there's
something going on out here, whether it's bloody supernatural or which to me it
can't be because of how solid I've heard it and seeing the footprints. It's
a physical thing. So it's just more questions now than answers. That's what
keeps me coming back. Man. It's always more questions than answers. I
want to talk about some of the things that you've talked about here. Let's
start with the tree breaks and the structures. Those have always been some of
the most subjective stuff to me, I tell you, until I went up
to Radium with Todd standing back in October of last year, and either he's
got people out there or he's out there breaking these fricking trees. I have
never seen so many tree breaks and weird structures. It's literally everywhere. I
find them here on my property in North Carolina. Not in the same type
of numbers, but almost the exact identical thing. I tried to break these
trees. I've got it on my YouTube channel. Kyle was filming me while
I was trying to break maybe a two and a half inch tree, and
I was able to break it. It looked similar to what we were finding,
but not exactly. And it's hard to explain to people who have never
experienced it in person what I mean by not exactly. I know what snowload
looks like. We get snowload here. We didn't get any this year so
far, but we've had as much as almost four feet of snow here on
our property. In the past. We've got trees that are broken over by
snowload. When those kind of things, I know what that looks like.
This is different. It's just different, and that people of course that skeptical
people go, well, and I say it to myself, I'm very skeptical,
so I say, what could it be? Could it be a natural
occurrence. I don't know. As far as the tree breaks, I know
you've explained them already, but you said something about a twist, because that's
something that I was seeing a little bit in Radium, and I've seen it
a couple of times here on the property. Sometimes it's just a break.
It's almost like somebody use some sort of mechanical something, or you would just
have to Yeah, it's just a perfect rid angle, or you just have
to have enough strength in your wrist to take up two inch sapling and not
completely break it. But it's what Todd calls a clean break, right,
It's just hard to explain if you've never seen it. Is that the kind
of stuff that you guys are seeing, And as far as maybe like the
X stuff, is that a common thing that you're hearing from other people that
are into this over there, that are finding similar things in other places,
and stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll be right back after
these messages. Yeah, that's it very common. And the way that I
can describe it is it's like a fast twitchol Like it's a pop. It's
a quick pop. It's not a gradual and then snap, because you can
see that stressed. If you're gradually snapping it, you'll see it slowly and
then it will peel out of itself. Whereas these ones that we're finding a
literal straight fast. You could do it if you created some sort of metal
mechanism and slid it all the way over the branch and then just pull and
tried to pop it like at right angle. But these are literally popped at
a right angle or twisted or broken ferociously or just with so much strength that
like I've tried to snap on myself, and they're doing that slow pop and
then splintering out. It's similar, but it's not the same, like you
said, But these ones that we're finding a right angle pop and then twist
it, and we're looking inside because there's grubs over here that eat out and
they ride out the center of the trees, even saplings, and you can
see those ones. You can see like the hollows in them, and like
even some of those are twisted, but you're like, just the ones that
don't have grubs in them, that are snapped at a rin angle are perfectly
twisted. There was a point where above the power line we found like a
forty meter wide stretch of them in this one column going down towards the nash
of well of the park that we were in. We were like, is
this from just from back burning and fire popping it and just like the temperature
of the moisture in the tree twisting it and then popping over, and we're
like, then it would be everywhere. That's the only thing we can put
it down to. And even then we ruled that out ourselves because we're like,
it's only in this forty meter space. There's dead trees and burnt trees
all along this whole section of road in this mountain area. That is not
what it is. So it has to be someone doing it because I've got
horses and stuff in my paddock here at home, and they've snapped over saplings
and stuff, but at their body height, and you can see it's a
way cleaner break than what we would do. It's like a halfway between what
I'm finding and what we can do. And even looking at that, I'm
going, I'm finding this shit six foot up a tree in the middle of
the bush. So there's not something giant walking around brushing past it. There's
not someone hanging off it, because it'd be too gradually you'd have to jump
and it would slowly be green enough where it would bend and then it would
splinter out. This is a perfect grab thumb under it or something and then
pop down. It's like when we walk to the bush and you're walking through.
You just grab a leaf off or something, twist it and see when
people have walked through a track. I often find it when I go off
the main walking track. We're off the little side skirts and you're like,
ohyah, someone's walks it here. It's twisted there. But when you find
it up at your head height, it's not a person when it's that pick
as well. It is a common thing x markets and stuff, especially up
the Gold Coast hinterland here in Queensland. It's just out of New South Wales,
Southeast Queensland. The aaire finding a lot of this in a Tropics mountain
range. They're finding the sticks stabbing into the ground from what should be their
own weight. But it's impossible for how small these sticks are to stab into
the ground and then make an ex or even just be stabbed straight into the
ground. But a lot of people that researchers in Australia find all the twist
breaks, all the perfect pop down breaks in the middle of nowhere where no
one should be doing this shit. Another thing I wanted to talk to you
about was something that just happened as we're talking. We literally recorded this on
a Friday. The show that aired today was with Fred from Alaska, and
Fred was having some hair raising, harrowing experiences with these things, and one
thing he brought up was the tongue pops that these things were doing. They
were watching this a couple of individuals that they had seen on a couple of
occasions doing these tongue pops or clicks out in the open where they can see
them, and him describing the percussion and being able he literally said, I
think he described it as being able to fill it on your clothes, like
the percussion. This thing was so loud from eighty feet away. You mentioned
tongue pops and tongue clicks earlier. I'm wondering, and I've wondered this for
a while now, if some of the what we consider wood knocks, I've
heard wood knocks here, I've heard them in radium, or at least I
think it is. Todd has this theory that it's not wood on wood up
there, it's rocks on wood. They're picking up rocks and hitting trees and
hearing it in person, it sounds very similar to that. What I hear
here didn't sound like a rock on a tree. It did sound more like
wood on wood, but what do you think about if you guys are hearing
the tongue pops and the clicks, and other people are describing that, are
they hearing would knock similar to overhear or is that all they're hearing is the
tongue popping and clicking? And do you think they might be interchangeable and people
are mistaking one for the other. From what I heard, I definitely heard
them making some former communication. The best thing I can put is that it
was a hard stick on a holo log. But if you've got the vocals
that they say they have the lung capacity that something this big would have,
I think it would be so easy for them, obviously learning from a young
age being taught that as your language and communication, to be popping with their
mouth because growing up in like you'd school, you'd have mates up would be
easily at our doors so loud, and they get in trouble by the teachers
because it was interrupting the class how loud it was. And just from that
alone, with how small some of these kids were doing it, it's something
this big knew how to do that it would sound so spot on, and
you just could you'd be able to hear that it would be a completely different
noise that was amplified that much. I'm in two minds about it. A
lot of the ones that you do here sound like wood on wood. Some
sound like rock on wood. But it's good that you've actually got a whitw
Not many people actually see them doing it. I've heard some stories of people
seeing them hit a rock on a tree or something. But obviously it's up
for a discussion as we are now. But I think personally i'd have to
experience it again to now that I've come to my fear. If something happens,
maybe I'd be able to compose and be like, that's definitely this.
I could hear the saliva in that, or the clean snap of the time
on the bottom of his mouth or something. That's just my opinion on it.
I'm still in two minds what it could have been. But it was
too rhythmic, too timed perfectly for it to not be something doing it as
well. Gotcha last couple of questions as far as physical descriptions of what you
guys are seeing over there, Obviously people are reporting these things. You're in
contact with other people. I'm assuming I don't want to put words in your
mouth. Have you heard physical descriptions? I'm curious about that because they tend
to vary greatly in some cases here. I've had people on the show that
have seen what they believe to be albinos or white ones. They seem to
be larger in the Pacific Northwest or the Bergman's rule. The farther north you
go, the bigger things are skunk apes seem to be a little smaller and
scraggly and different looking. What kind of physical descriptions are you hearing or people
seeing over there. It's a two part question that has nothing to do with
the other, but I want to get it in there so you can answer
them both. I don't know if you've heard the show that we've done in
the past. We've when and I've talked about it on that Bigfoot podcast.
I think we did a live show about it about kangaroos being responsible for some
of the dog man sightings here in the United States. You clearly have experience
with kangaroos. I've talked to other Australian people in the past who have had
experiences of kangaroos. It's completely subjective, and I know I'm putting you on
the hot seat. But let's finish that out with what do you think the
possibility is that we do have kangaroo? There is a population of wild kangaroos
over here. I don't know how many there are, but it's been proven
there's kangaroos that are loose in America. What do you think about what your
personal opinion is on how could a person mistake a kangaroo for a dog man
in a high stress situation. Start with the sort of the yowie description of
what people are seeing over there in Australia, and then move into that if
you don't mind. Okay, So there's three different types we have over here
that be tired by indigenous as well and that people have seen. You've got
the brown jacks or jungity, which are really small, so they'd only I
think they maximum get till five six foot max tall. Then you've got the
Dueligar. All the Yowie's and all different tribes around Australia have different ansulms.
The Dueligars one close around my area and they get to eighth foot tall from
six to eight easily, and then up north in the tip of Australia in
the Northern Territory. They call them the Quinkin and they're twelve foot tall.
I don't know if they get bigger than twelve foot possibly, but there's report
There've been hundreds of reports of all different types. But growing up as a
kid, you'd hear brownjack a lot. And then some of my indigenous mates
they said their nickname was brown jack and they never knew why because they weren't
educated in it. So they're like, really, that's what it means,
oh, because brown jack's are supposed to be the tricksters and they muck around
with you a lot more. Yet the smaller ones, the Dueligar is just
like a typical bigfoot yowie, the medium size one, and then the quinking
up north, which are huge apparently in the rainforests and whatnot. But a
lot of people here and from reports off her and being told outside of hearing
it on podcasts and stuff, is a lot of them can look like an
eph They've got big, flat nose and everything. A lot of people.
I've been told an encounter where he was driving it to Aim in the morning
end he came over this little ridge and it was sitting on the side of
the road, and he thought it was a big, hairy indigenous man,
so it looked more indigenous, so more human, and it just stood up,
took two steps across the highway after being around the kangaroo, and it
had its gizzards and everything out, or it's in it's around in a pile
like it was its dinner table work out. I'm going to eat this first,
eat that first, And you could see it try and cover its face
up with branches and stuff in the bush. So there's all different shapes and
size, and it's the same with around the world and obviously in America f
those four to six different types of think where some of them have that protruded
snout or like more of an ape, that little bulge, this huge brow
ridge. So I think they vary between if they are interbreeding with different clans
or troops however you want to call them, because no one knows and no
one's an expert. If they are inbreeding, you'll get the ones how people
have said they look disabled. Well even with it, you find those footprints
where it's like a club foot or something like. There's reasons why things in
nature go out because they're inbreeding and look at you just look at dogs,
pure bred dogs. But wasn't it so many issues because it's mother's, it's
grandma as well, and it's sister at the same time, it's just not
meant to be. But that's why I think there's so many different descriptions of
Even in Australia, people have said ape or human, more human looking.
The young ones look more ape, the older ones look more human like neanderthal,
but always covered in hair and sometimes they're bored on top, but with
a mullet hair at the back like as you've probably heard, like all different
lengths of hair right over their face, shaggy. But yeah, there's definitely
all different sorts here that people have seen as well. The dog man thing
it's stuck up because I'm going to make is actually had an encounter with one.
I've become made with them through the subject because of it. I don't
think kangaroos from what I've seen as well, they can't get that big to
where you're going to go. This thing was a huge were wolf a kangaroo
to me. Maybe it's because I've just s grown up seeing them all the
time, being whether they're native, they will never look like even the big
reds like the big ones. You can always tell the front of their face.
It's not like a dog muzzle. It's literally like this big lips like
geos that puff outsort of and you can just tell even where the eyes are
positioned. They're more on the front of the head than like a dog with
it's on the side sort of thing. I can see if someone hasn't got
any experience with seeing animals and hiking and everything, or I haven't really seen
a photo of kangaroo, and then maybe I've heard about a dog man encountering
the area or in general, that they'd see something out hiking and the fear
would hit them. I've never seen that before. What is that? Oh
my god, and your brain just runs wild, as we know, and
you start looking for your brain goes, I need to find a face.
So what does it look like to me? Is you had no clue about
kangaroos. You go, it's a were wolf. It is sticking straight up.
That's a were wolf. But with the size of them and the reports
that people have reported seeing a dog man and the size that it was,
like this was eight foot tall, shredded with muscle, kangaroos are shredded.
They've got giant arms and chests. You don't ever want to fly one,
especially with the cause on the end. But you can see they've almost got
like t rex arms. It's not big arms that people report seeing with a
dog man. And I think someone obviously that doesn't believe in the subjects may
have brought that up initially and it's spread out like wildfire or But my mate
who had his encounter, he was fishing in a kayak in a creek in
News Wales on a river and he actually heard this big thing following him with
each paddle step storm like following him, and he couldn't see it. So
he turned around when he heard it right there when he paused, and he
took a photo with his camera on the bushes and he didn't see anything at
the time, but when he went home or had a look in his car
when he got out and finished for the day fishing, because he was like,
because it screamed at him as well, it full blown crowd at him
and yelled and he heard this noise and is what is that you can see
in the photo? And I've looked the photo that many times and gone it's
a black German shepherd head sticking out of the shrub, this huge black German
ship there with perfect pointed up. He is like spot on that looks like
a typical werewolf. Whatever the hell that like. That's not paradolia. It's
one of those rare images that you can see and go, that's not paradolia.
That's a dog stick in its head out of the butch. And they
actually went back with some other researchers and look and found the exact spot where
he took the photo. And it's like a six foot stand for it to
be where its shoulders are to be perking its head out of the tree.
So whatever it was more than six foot tall with its head perking out of
the tree looking at him because there was nothing to stand on, no stumps
or rocks or anything. That he's had that encounter and got the photo and
you look at it and go, it's not a kangaroo. It's black.
He even showed his wife and that's a black Jaman shepherd. But that's six
foot there before you even get out of the shrub. I noticed one person
who's had an account with it, and there's been stories around my area up
at the Glasshouse mountains of they've got a macadamia farm out there. This keeps
maceadamia farms, so there's lots of feral pigs that go in. And one
of the managers, who I've heard a story through a friend. You hear
story, it's like I heard this blurk once and the manager said to a
new guy one day, don't go out at night and if you see the
big black dog, don't don't near it. He's like big black dog is.
Yeah, there's things four foot standing on all fours like it's huge.
Don't go near it. So it's I've been a few reports here of the
dog man, but it's in New South Wales or even up in Queensland.
But being that where you live around kangaroo, as you look at a kangaroo,
you're not scaredul and you just don't go near a big male or something
because they're front yup. But you can tell that's kangaroo. That's a bloody
dog head sticking out the bushes. That's only got short, mustly arms.
It's not the long, elong added arms that people reports seeing. That's my
opinion on the people that say in America that dog man's just the kangaroo.
I think it's clear biologically you can tell it's kangaroo, even if it's just
its head sticking out. They don't get huge the heads like a dog head.
They're all quite narrow and long. That's my opinion on that subject.
We've mentioned it a couple of times. Tell us what your YouTube channel is,
what can people expect to see when they get over there, and I
will certainly link to it in the show notes for everybody to check it out.
Yep. So my channel is agalude yew we are, and I say
A G A L W D yew we are, and I research and investigation
loosely put. And even if I don't find anything that day, I'll put
up for my high I can just to cook up of the area so people
can see what it's like in that area where I've had the encounters. I'm
not just going to post always when I find things. I think that's a
bit silly. You should always rationalize and look at this branch. It's clearly
been broken by just a little things like that. This is what bush looks
like normally, not this over here that's twisted six foot high at a right
angle, perfect snap. This is my footprint. That's their footprint. That's
completely different. So I do upload a lot of everything regardless if I find
anything that day or not. But I am going out tonight, as I
said earlier to you, with some mates, three mates, to scope out
later into the night on this new area that we found near the dam where
I had my encounter, so hopefully to produce something sounds awesome, Man,
Jeremy, I have had a blast talking to you, man, thanks so
much for coming on the show. You guys, go over and check out
his YouTube channel and give them a subscribe, show them some love. I
really appreciate you coming on and sharing your stuff. Man. Thanks for having
me. Brian, I've been looking forward to it and just talking about the
subject more. It's not a hobby anymore. It's an addiction. Getting answers
to questions. Mighty. They say, you don't gotta go home, but
you can't stay. No, I don't want to be alone. We're all
out it. Try this job that time everything, call me, ride back,
cry back the joy for me, joy staying right there, come in
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