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Hey, everybody, This is Left
Strive. Yes, yes I know aka

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Survivor Man, and you're listening to
Brian on sasquatch Otis he there? And

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welcome back to sasquatch oyst. Thank
you so much for being with us for

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the show. It is Friday.
I hope you're having a great week.

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We have an amazing guest lined up. But before we get there, I

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want to start, as always by
inviting you. If you've had an encounter

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Got to sit down with Jeremy from
Australia, and Jeremy has had some

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really interesting experiences with what he calls
yowie over there, we would know them

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as sasquatch. Here. He's out
in a research area with some of his

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buddies and they've had some really cool
experiences. I'll let Jeremy tell you all

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about those in just a moment.
Jeremy is Australian, he does have an

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accent and he does talk really fast, so you may need to put on

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some headphones and listen closely here to
get everything that Jeremy's saying. But I

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think you're really going to enjoy his
experiences really quickly. We're only a couple

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of weeks away from the books shipping
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But enough of that. I know you

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guys are ready to get into it. Jeremy's on the line. He's ready

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to go. Just sit back,
relax and enjoy the show. I want

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to welcome our guest of the show. It is Jeremy from Australia. Welcome

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to the show Man. Thanks Eran, thanks for having me. I'm glad

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to have you in person. We've
played some of your voicemails in the past

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and people got a little bit of
a taste of what you've been experiencing over

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there in Australia. But before we
get to any of your experiences, let's

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just talk about the subject in general. What got you interested in sasquatch and

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bigfoot? Yahwe's in Australia. What
got you interested in the subject to begin

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with? I think like most people
that is in the outdoors are growing up

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on property or a farm. You're
just interested in what else could be out

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there. And as everyone says,
I always thought there was only one running

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around America or anything like that,
or there's one running around Australa, there's

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any one in each continent. That
getting older just looking into the subject more,

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especially once my brother in law told
me about an encounter that was only

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twenty minutes up the road, full
daytime sighting that he had in the heart

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of COVID where no one was supposed
to be out anyway, one was on

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lockdown for three months. So I
just went, yeah, let's go have

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a look. And that's what got
me more into the subject. After watching

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more and more stuff online, just
gathering as much information as you can to

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be like, hang on, there's
actually more to this. There's not just

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one. There's more than especially with
all the podcasts and then finding yours as

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well as the other popular ones.
So there's actually a lot more to this

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subject than just one running around the
bush that someone sees as a mysical preacher.

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Yeah, there's definitely a lot more
than one. I've talked about that

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before. I thought that as a
kid, and I've talked to other people

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who had that same experience early on
in this and then you realize it's not

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just Patty, It's not just that
one out in California. They're everywhere.

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And that's one of the things I
wanted to do when I started the show

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was document as many encounters as I
could in the southeastern United States, where

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I was born and raised, and
now I've expanded into the UK. I've

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talked to people in the United Kingdom, talked to Daniel Barn Daniel and I

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are doing a show together on Sunday. He's found some more evidence recently,

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and he's got some really the exciting
stuff that he's coming out with. The

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poo poos always say there's no way
that could happen. It's the UK,

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there's no Bigfoot, there's nothing over
there. I don't know, I feel

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like there is a possibility where there's
a little bit of land for these things

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to be. Who knows what's where? Right? Do you get that in

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Australia to people say, oh,
there's no way there's any sasquatch in Australia.

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Do you get that? Well,
you talk to people about the subject.

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Yeah, I'm pretty careful with who
I talk to. I'll always drop

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it into a conversation and see their
reaction obviously to be like okay, yep,

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I k a rise out of them. I'll ask more, but a

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lot of time again, oh that's
just a bloody missmake. But it's easily

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the people that don't believe in anything
other than what they see on the news,

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which is obviously scripted. So it's
a bit like you just go okay,

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yep, pill no worries, Yeah, hell yeah, they're just a

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mythe what if you experienced stuff?
Yeah, but you don't believe it.

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There's not what me're telling you.
I'm not here to convince you. I'm

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just here to betray what I've experienced. And there's a lot more going on

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than we expect, especially if you're
used to the bush. They say we're

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in their lund room. If you're
there all the time, you can see

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when things hang on. That tree
shouldn't have broken like that unless there's been

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a dead fall hitted or this was
this twisted even though if it had grubs

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eating at the wood, which we
found, why is it twisted or why

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is the tree always going to fall
and then twist? It doesn't make sense

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for a lot of the bush,
especially the X markets, where you find

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sticks stabbed into hard compact ground and
you're like, what does that? A

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person could have done it? You're
there, I'm like, yeah, absolutely

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on there. But these are stabbed
in so deep that you would have need

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to dig a hole first, and
they'd be excess soil laying around. You'd

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find the messy prints from people scuffing
around the bush. Humans are messy.

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That's my opinion on when you find
something that seems too good to be true,

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it's like, this isn't right,
Like, humans are messy. We

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turn our feet when we turn our
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scuff and so there's a lot of
stuff that you see. And if you've

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been in a bush a lot like
I said that, you just go,

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nah, there's something and there's something
with hands. Obviously, you don't sit

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around in your lounge room or your
living room. For those in the United

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States, you get out in the
woods, you get out in the bush,

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and you've had experiences, So why
don't you just take us through what

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you've experienced once you got out started
looking into these things. What were you

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finding and what have you experienced out
there? Yep, So we went out

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with my brother in law when he
showed me that encounter, which he can

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find on YouTube if you top in
Bilberg Grove Yowie and it will be a

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part one and part two that Australian
Yowi researched it and they actually go out

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with a witness and he talks them
through it. And so we found the

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area from the video online. We'd
lined everything up, the log that had

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fallen over in the creek bed,
and we found the area and just from

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being there you could feel the energy. You're like, oh, yeah,

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this is it. So we started
looking around, didn't really find anything the

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first time. Every two or three
weeks we'd go back. Each time we'd

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find something slightly different. Well,
that's a bit odd. Was that tree

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over there that's not from this tree? How is that broken and landed under

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the canopy. And though it's not
from this same tree, something a dog

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could have dragged it under. Something
could have dragged it under. And so

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we just keep going back, each
time going deeper and deeper into the bush

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because there are walking tracks. But
we just find a creek for a game

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trail and just go in. And
it doesn't sound like much, but when

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you're in a thick scrub that's up
and down gullies or ravines that you call

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are really small ones, you go, I'm stupid for coming out here,

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Like, who the hell would just
walk out here following a game trail from

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some animal, whether it is.
We don't have to worry about stuff like

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bears and cougars. There's apparently mountain
lions of all Fumus down south in Australia

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that a lot of people have witnessed, which is part of our crypto as

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well, because they're not supposed to
exist here. So we'd keep going out

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and follow game trails and we'd find
we have an hour here for a powerful

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hour, and they're huge and they
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humans. We'd find like where one
had been killed, but there was no

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carcass, no bits of wing.
As with most jomp big bush cats,

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you'd see blood and stuff laying around. It was almost likely to be plucked

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and left there, plucked down and
it was taken away, saying with other

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bird carcasses, but no carcass,
just the feathers, like in a perfect

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circle where someone had plucked them out
or something and just left it there.

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We'd find all these weird things to
go, No one. We're doing this

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in the National Park. So we're
here, and we come here a lot

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every two weeks, which it doesn't
sound like a lot, but it is

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when you're doing it every Tuesday week, getting out there and spending the time

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sweating your ass off, especially if
it's not winter, which is like,

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there's got to be something. This
is odd. And I ended up finding

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a style of singing footprint Tasmanian tiger
if you know they are growing up hunting,

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going to a family farm down the
print and I was like, what

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is that? I just couldn't work
out. It's not a dog, It's

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not this. So I've took photos, obviously, sent it away to zoologists

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and other ex park ranges and whatnot, and straight away came back that's a

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thile scene. Not it could be
this, it could be that that's a

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thile scene. So we were just
like, holy trap. And they confirm

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that there's been reports to where they
don't want to get it out there because

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more people just go and hunt them
down. But a lot of ranges see

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them with family groups with pups and
stuff, so we were looking for that

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as well. It was like,
yeah, this is where the year residing

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has happened, but there could be
a bloody thila scene here, and if

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we get footage, that's amazing,
as amazing as getting a year we all.

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So one day we went out to
the park and this is the day

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of the maining caunter that we've had. After finding all the weird bushing,

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beel like, oh, there's definitely
something going on. So we'll keep going

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back to the same area because if
their creatures have had it, we're going

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to run into it eventually, whether
it's years, days, months, whatever.

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So we went out and we were
walking through the back of the park

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because we know the back entrance heading
in, we were like, where is

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everyone. There's no one here.
Usually there's one or two cars, people

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having barbecues. They're walking through the
main car park area. Ended up getting

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to whether walking trails sort of end, and there's a big fire trail that

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runs around the park that the rangers
use. And on the sign there,

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which is near the main gate down
from a hill, it said park close

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due to back burning. So the
gates at the top were actually locked.

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Because we came in the back way
we could just walk straight in and have

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free roam of it. And we're
reading it and said it'd been closed for

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two weeks, one to two weeks
already, and the day we were there

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was the last day of it,
and we were like, that's weird.

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There's no fresh burn. You can
smell a fresh burn with a backburn,

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because it's that much bush that's been
burnt off that it's just lingers that smell.

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And we're like, this is really
weird. There's definitely no burn off.

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We couldn't smell any fresh burn.
So we kept walking in and we

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got up to into the creek where
we go and research where I found the

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print. There's a game trail that
crosses over the creek and the creek bank

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there is about two meters tall,
maybe two and a half three. So

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we went straight up the bank there
that game trail where we found that print,

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to go and look for a dens. That was the idea, Okay,

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we'll be quiet, we could find
a den under a shrub here or

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a lantana or whatnot. When we
got up there, it was like a

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highway of game trails, just a
warren and you could see like small mammals.

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That one was probably a fox or
wallaby. This one lots. This

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one that's a bit bigger. I
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It's just all varying sizes. So
there's plenty of food out there that

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we're ready. You, especially in
the creek, there's fresh craze and everything.

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Catfish eels to like everything. There's
a little dam there and it never

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runs out of water that dam,
and there's always food there. So it's

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definitely a haven. You can say
it's definitely a haven. So we walked

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up in there and my mate splipped
to the right and I kept going forward

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a little bit to the left,
just looking at the game, just trying

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to find more prints in the mud
under the grass. But there's all thick

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bush around as well. But it
was almost too clear the area to be

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like, they can't just be kangaroos
and shit doing. It's like it's so

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opening here. It's just ridiculous because
the hill goes up from us, up

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the ridge and it's all thick bush, and all of a sudden, I

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fear this film. I'm like,
hang on rhythmic tapping almost like the indigenous

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here used like a music stick and
it's a hard stick and they hit it

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on another hard stick, but sounded
like one of these sticks on a hollow

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log up on the ridge halfway,
which is only probably you'd get an eighty

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meters macks away from us, and
this noise was It just stopped me in

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my tracks. Obviously, with this
subject, I don't see myself as one

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as the people that we all know
that's Oh, you're the bigfooter. You're

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the go oh yeah, Bigfoot's real, right, everything's big Footnote I'm pretty

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rational. You've got to be otherwise
you do look like a dickhead when it

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comes to that, and people say, oh, he believes in bigfoot.

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He thinks everything's bigfoot. No,
you can't look at everything it's bigfoot.

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So it's instantly my brain went to, is that a frog sounds like a

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frog? No, it's not a
frog. And then again, and I've

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recorded everything, all my encounters and
everything are recorded, because it's when you're

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not recording that shit happens usually.
I was listening to it, going,

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no, that's is it a frog? I don't know? And I called

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my MATEO. I was like,
right, he's only about twenty meters away,

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and he came back over. I
said, did you hear that is?

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Yeah, it sounds like a girl
going what what? So from where

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he was he could hear the what. But where I was, it sounded

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like a hard stick on a whole
and it was rhythmic and timed, and

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it wasn't like a branch swaying in
the wind. There was no wind that

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day to do anything like that.
And usually trees croak in they're on each

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other. So we're like, okay, we could bit that. It sounds

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like frog. You heard something different, so we don't know what it is.

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Let's make our way up whispering the
whole time, obviously, let's make

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our way up to where this is
and see if we can find what's doing

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it. And within I'm not even
joking, like three to five steps slowly

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going through the bush, single file. On the other side of it's about

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fifteen twenty menus aways, this big
wall of lantana and bushes that blocks sheep

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from seeing in. And we hear
this like a cow sized animal russell and

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get up and then we just froze. And it was all like, all

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systems go, that's too big to
being able to bush. They shouldn't be

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out here hanging on with something going
on. This is all going through my

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head and my mate froze as well. My mate is one of the people

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that hear any noise. He just
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just the middle of the night.
And I'm like, yeah, I'm not

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doing that, but even he hearing
this, just froze. And where the

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creek bank goes down where that noise
was, that fifteen meters down and it's

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almost vertical. You've got to go
hands and feet. I've done it before,

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but you've got to go so slow
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and have a very bad day.
That were just froze and hearing that noise,

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and it made the russele for about
two seconds and then nothing for another

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two or three seconds, and then
all of a sudden dan and the creek

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you hear something big just landed in
the creek. So it didn't run down

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the vertical slope. It jumped off
or went halfway and jumped. And it

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was that big that when we heard
it land you could hear clear two feet

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landing. It wasn't hooves, It
wasn't a kangaroo hopping because they've got really

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thin feet, as people would know
from seeing them. They don't make this

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large pad impact sound in the creek
there it's all rock hopping. You literally

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can't run up the creek and you
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There's big boulders down to little pebbles, so it's all that sort of terrain.

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And this thing just started stomping as
soon as it landed, all the

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way towards where our game trail was
that we came up, which is probably

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forty metres down the creek. There
wasn't even like a flight or fight.

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It was don't fucking move and listen
to what this thing's doing. Because it

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was clear by people to where we
both frozen were just like, that's bigger

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than us. It was easily minimum
one hundred and fifty dollars minimum. It's

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probably way more than that, but
that's just trying to be conservative. And

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this thing was just stomping up the
creek. It got to this body of

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water that was maybe six hundred mili
deep and just so like someone coming out

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of the ocean as fast as they
could sh And when it did that,

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my watch couldn't record my heart rate
to stopped recording it. It was going

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that fast. My mate was just
you could tell. And when people say

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they can't hear anything, for me, it was one. There was no

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birds around that day. They're all
in the surrounding areas but not where we

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were. But all I could hear
it was just my heart racing in my

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head to the point where it was
like that's felt like I was teetering on

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having a panic attack. So I
had to talk to myself and med,

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no, this is what we're here
for, taking deep breaths and just listening.

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And then it stopped. It didn't
keep walking, it stopped after it

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hit the body of water, and
it was almost like, obviously this is

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an after thought, like half fast
bluff charge because I think that day because

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the wind comes down the creek,
so we'd have the upper hand on anything

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that was up further in the creek. I think we snuck up on them

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resting because after the big one stopped, and I say a big one,

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because that was the heaviest one we
heard, which it would have only been

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bloody twenty meters away from it was
down if we went back down to the

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creek now, like right there.
And I think that's what scared us,

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because obviously we obviously listen into a
lot of podcasts and a lot of information.

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People say if there's young ones,
like with any wild animal, you

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don't go near it. So all
this is running through my head because we

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all of a sudden we hear another
one land exactly where the big one laded,

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but it was significantly lighter in weight
than what the big one was.

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And then it started walking up the
creep like a pitter pad, almost like

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three steps and five steps, and
then literally ten twenty seconds after another one

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landed the little one was and they
were about the same size, like the

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same weight, those two, and
we heard them slowly making their way up

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to the big one where we heard
the sound last. But as they went

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along, you'd hear them pick up
a big rock and then drop it again

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like or shuffle it. And it
was clear. We knew that noise because

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obviously people picked up rocks for it
and you put them back down. It's

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not something stepping on it like a
wallaby hopping or anything. And there was

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three of these creatures i'll say beings, I don't know, but what the

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only thing it could be, which
what we had in the Australian bush is

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a yarie because cassiary is probably the
next biggest thing that a black beetle.

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But obviously they've got little dinner feet
that wouldn't make this bloud downs else sprinking

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at you, and they wouldn't even
be able to sprink down. Now,

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if you watch the videos, it's
all rock hopping, it's slippery, it's

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just ridiculous. So these things were
moving their way up with the big one

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as well. We could hear the
pitter patter and you can hear it on

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the video. And that's one thing
that I thought. I was like,

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this is awesome. No one can
dispute this. I've got clear evidence that

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this is a large blipedal creature with
other ones following it, stomping down the

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creek and picking up rocks. You
can hear them drop it and even my

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mate at the time he whispers in
the video, it's the water. It's

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in the water. After we've heard
the big ones slosh through, you can

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hear the little ones like stepping through
the water as well. But the thing

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that was just scarings is that we
had no visual It was all sounds,

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so you could all you could hear
was this huge being just stomping up the

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creek towards you, and then the
little ones picking up rocks. And we

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thought that there was a point where
we were like, they don't know that

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we're here, so they're actually looking
for food. I think they'd then started

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off, we'd get up mood on, but as we go obviously, like

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anything would you look food as you
go along, it was just so clear

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that it was picking up rocks and
putting them down. So we were like,

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that's nothing else in the Aussie bush. There's nothing that does that.

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You'd hear it if it was a
pig shifting her off with its nose,

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but it snout sorry, and it
wasn't anything like that. But while that

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was happening down there, we could
hear when they'd stop. In between ten

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twenty seconds, they'd stop and then
start walking in and it was almost like

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when the big one did it initially
when he was pausing and then stepping again

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to try and get us to move, to see if we're still there,

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Like just the feeling you got from
that he's trying to see, like shuffle

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around, like juking someone, like
making them go this certain way, or

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But while that was happening, in
between the brakes of him walking up in

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the bush, where we heard the
knox or mouth pops, however you want

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to perceive that they do these things, we could hear it slowly shuffling around

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up on the ridge above us.
And there's a point where we go again

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we're like, holy shit, what
are we going to do. You've got

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a knife on you, but that's
not going to do anything like you wouldn't

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even try and fight something like this, especially when they had young ones.

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So we were just standing there listening
and I'd say, I know it's all

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good. This is what we're here
for. Just wait for them to move.

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So if you think they're going to
fuck off, And this is coming

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from someone who used to chase after
stuff that he didn't even know what was,

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he hear it and kiss off bolting
in the bush, and even he

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was so scared. Well, we
were both frightened, like it was more

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than it was like an ancient fear
ingrained in our DNA. We've heard these

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things before in the past, but
it was our ancestors, and this is

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ingrained in your DNA. Leave them
alone and the other way that we let

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them get down and to a point
where they were almost that where our game

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trail was, but obviously we're two
meters high at that point. And then

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a commercial plane came over the park
and it was so loud that we're like,

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okay, it was almost snapped us
out. At okay, let's move

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with it back towards the trail because
if we see them there. And we

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took maybe ten fifteen steps, but
not big ones because then the sound of

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the plane went. But obviously,
as people say, these things are so

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smart, once the plaine noise was
gone, you could hear like twenty meters

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past our game trail, back down
the creek. You could hear a rock

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shuffle every six or so meters,
So they'd obviously pissed off with the noise

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as well as fast as they could
or whatever it was, and they were

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gone. But there was a point
where I was filming down the trail,

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the game trail, and it looked
like one of their heads walked past,

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and I just went, did you
take likes oly shit? This thing is

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all that? But it was a
wallaby coming up that game trail. Then.

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The good thing about it, though, was that we couldn't hear it

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until it was up on the same
level we were with it's hopping and it

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was no any even being like plausible
that was the noise we heard because it

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didn't even know there. It saw
us, like almost face to face,

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slid over trying to jump away like
it looks crazy, like losing its shit.

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I've seen him out there before and
they don't skitch like that. That

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was like a bit weird with the
whole scenario that just happened. Were they

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hunting the wallaby? Were they resting
under the tree before where we walked up

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on them. This wallaby didn't even
know that we were there. It just

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goes to show that we could easily
sneak up on a wallaby, but just

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its reaction to us being right there
all of a sudden, it literally fell

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over sideways and had to regain itself
and then pissed off. So we walked

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down the creek after that, and
it was like looking around a corner in

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a horn of house, Shit,
is there anything there? Are they down

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the creek and being real cautious,
and we couldn't see anything but the whole

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energy of the area. I think
it was from our adrenaline dup. And

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then the after math of that and
it was like they're gone, there's nothing

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here anymore. You could just feel
like there was nothing left in the area.

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Birds came back and it was just
like, what the hell did that

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really just happen. We were both
like, it's all funny games looking for

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y Hooi's or Bigfoot, but then
when it comes real, it was shit.

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These things are real, which we
always believed, but obviously, until

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you experience something, you'll see something
you'll never know. But even after this

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experience, it's either you lead the
subject fully and don't do it again because

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it's so terrifying, or you need
more arm answers to questions and stay tuned

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for more sasquat chotausy, we're going
right back after these messages. So we

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walked up the creek where they would
have jumped down, and we found clear

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impressions in the gravels and sand,
and you could literally see where it had

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stepped in the water and stepped over
a rock from all the water dripping off

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its foot, and it was like, isn't a wall of bit This is

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wide? Like this is a footstep. But we actually found two separate footprints

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that day, one smaller one and
then one really wide. It was maybe

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like a size ten to eleven us, but it was so wide and you

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could see the toe impressions and everything. I think I've sent you that photo.

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I've sent you a few other footprints. If down and you could see

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there's only one. There's always only
one, which I just don't understand.

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And the only thing I can put
to that is I've been told since being

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a subject by indigenous people that they
used to have a treaty with them,

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and they'd all work together in trade
and whatnot, same as the Sasquatch did

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with the Native Americans. Obviously,
it's like people. They all have different

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moods each day. And when they'd
steal indigenous people's kids, obviously they'd hunt

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them down and track them. So
they said that if you see one print

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and there's any one, it's a
misstep. They've realized. I was shit,

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I've left the print. I can't
just scuff it up because that looks

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obvious. And then they go and
step somewhere where they're not going to leave

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tracks anymore, because every time I've
found prints, it's always only one or

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I left and right and then nothing
more. The gate between the princes that

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I found was literally two meters and
you can't even jump and do that because

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you'll see that at the skid.
So you can look at these prints and

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go they're all the same depth.
They're not pushed and skidded, They're not

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made by a person. It's a
clear left and right foot. Given the

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clear left foot that I found,
it's just so wide wider than a work

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with a steel toe that you're like, this isn't someone's bare foot. Who

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would be walking through here with bare
feet when they have the most venomous snakes

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in the world of the spiders as
well, like all the stuff we have

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in the all the bussi bush,
I wouldn't even I like granding myself and

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everything, but I wouldn't even take
my boots off out there, just in

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case because of all the spiders and
shit running around. So that was the

405
00:22:21.920 --> 00:22:25.359
first encounter. Add We actually planned
to stay that night around the dam,

406
00:22:25.599 --> 00:22:26.960
and we sat up above the dam
un till about seven thirty, and it

407
00:22:27.000 --> 00:22:30.319
was dark at about six thirty,
just listening to the video again, listening

408
00:22:30.359 --> 00:22:33.920
to the footsteps, listening to the
shuffling through the water, and going like

409
00:22:33.960 --> 00:22:36.240
did that happen? It felt like
a dream. It literally felt like a

410
00:22:36.319 --> 00:22:40.000
lucid dream. And we both just
went I'm not feeling anything like this.

411
00:22:40.359 --> 00:22:41.960
I don't feel like they're still here. Let's go home. So we went

412
00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:45.000
home that day and reflected on it
for a couple of weeks. I think

413
00:22:45.039 --> 00:22:48.920
it took me about six to eight
weeks from the encounter to actually upload it

414
00:22:49.000 --> 00:22:52.720
because the whole time people are just
gonna call me crazy. This is a

415
00:22:52.799 --> 00:22:55.000
joke. I'll just put it on
there so anyone can watch it, because

416
00:22:55.000 --> 00:22:57.680
you get those random channels where there's
one little video here that's pretty significant,

417
00:22:57.680 --> 00:23:02.000
like you can't see anything in not
seeing a blob, squatch or whatever,

418
00:23:02.440 --> 00:23:06.079
but they've got a clear footprint that's
not a human footprint or anything like that.

419
00:23:06.480 --> 00:23:07.680
So I uploaded it. Since then
I was like, Oh, let's

420
00:23:07.720 --> 00:23:11.000
just keep going out. There's something
to this. We need more answers.

421
00:23:11.000 --> 00:23:14.880
To these questions that we'd go out
every two to three weeks, I quite

422
00:23:15.240 --> 00:23:17.920
regularly, and it was almost like
a routine thing for it. We've got

423
00:23:17.920 --> 00:23:19.680
to go get milk. Oh,
we've got to go squatching, just one

424
00:23:19.720 --> 00:23:23.079
of those things. And my mate
started working a lot more. My brother

425
00:23:23.119 --> 00:23:26.400
in law he couldn't make it anymore. So I'm going by myself. And

426
00:23:26.680 --> 00:23:30.039
I used to shoot by myself every
now and now it's easy to sneak up

427
00:23:30.039 --> 00:23:33.799
on things. You'd be more quiet. I know a lot of people say,

428
00:23:33.880 --> 00:23:36.880
especially the Creep Devil team Will Jevny
and for us, they say,

429
00:23:36.880 --> 00:23:40.559
you don't go by yourself. It's
the craziest thing you could do. You

430
00:23:40.559 --> 00:23:41.599
don't even know. They could be
behind a tree and we're just grabbed the

431
00:23:41.680 --> 00:23:45.119
done. But as there's something the
drive in me, it was like I

432
00:23:45.359 --> 00:23:48.839
just keep going. I need to
not If it's not to prove people wrong,

433
00:23:48.880 --> 00:23:52.559
it's to prove myself right to myself. So if I ever do get

434
00:23:52.599 --> 00:23:56.079
clear footage, I don't think I'll
be uploading it or showing it because one

435
00:23:56.519 --> 00:23:59.559
we're all in misprotect them too.
We don't want anyone to just go out

436
00:23:59.599 --> 00:24:03.160
there and be stupid, but straight
away someone to just go oh ai,

437
00:24:03.400 --> 00:24:06.400
that's ai, Like it's not real, so there's no point. It'd just

438
00:24:06.440 --> 00:24:08.759
be shot to your close friendship,
better in the subject and whatnot. So

439
00:24:08.839 --> 00:24:14.279
I'd start going out blinde myself a
fair bit and finding a lot. When

440
00:24:14.279 --> 00:24:17.160
I found the footprints, it was
by myself. I was going to cast

441
00:24:17.200 --> 00:24:18.720
it. I had casting the till, but there was still that part of

442
00:24:18.759 --> 00:24:22.039
me going, no, that's a
person. It's a person. Can't be,

443
00:24:22.279 --> 00:24:26.480
can't be. But per people don't
leave one singular flat the whole way

444
00:24:26.519 --> 00:24:30.880
through a footprint with toes and all
with no kickup, like no step off,

445
00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:33.960
was almost like it was a straight
down step and then gone within a

446
00:24:33.000 --> 00:24:36.400
two meter radius. There was no
other footprints in the creek bed. And

447
00:24:36.480 --> 00:24:38.759
this is all like coarse sand.
I was leaving prints with my boots,

448
00:24:40.119 --> 00:24:44.319
but even me standing beside it with
my hard compact boots, I couldn't even

449
00:24:44.359 --> 00:24:48.000
get half the depth that this pad
print was. So this is a barefoot

450
00:24:48.039 --> 00:24:49.160
path. It's a lot softer.
It's not going to be able to go

451
00:24:49.240 --> 00:24:52.480
as you used with your snow shoes. It sits on top, it's got

452
00:24:52.519 --> 00:24:55.880
more surface area, and being a
pad, you think, yeah, it's

453
00:24:55.920 --> 00:24:57.200
not going to go down, but
my boots being hard, you're like,

454
00:24:57.279 --> 00:25:00.720
yep, this is going to easily
make more like nope, you need about

455
00:25:00.759 --> 00:25:04.200
twice your weight to get that deep
with that print. So I do kick

456
00:25:04.240 --> 00:25:07.119
myself for not pass in that one. That day i found those, I

457
00:25:07.240 --> 00:25:10.279
was like, they're still here,
Yes, something's going on. And then

458
00:25:10.279 --> 00:25:11.759
I find the left and the right
foot that I was just talking about,

459
00:25:11.799 --> 00:25:15.480
and then trying to work out the
gate between it, and that was obviously

460
00:25:15.559 --> 00:25:18.359
a younger one because there were only
maybe a US eight size foot, but

461
00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:22.720
just why you can tell when it's
not the person like a humans footprint because

462
00:25:22.720 --> 00:25:26.440
they're just so wide as a barefoot, and you're like, this is ridiculous.

463
00:25:26.480 --> 00:25:30.240
This is a frigging ape or something
like what's running around there? And

464
00:25:30.759 --> 00:25:33.759
that day I think that I found
the footprints, I head up further up

465
00:25:33.799 --> 00:25:37.319
the creek, further than we've ever
been, and it just it goes on

466
00:25:37.400 --> 00:25:40.480
forever and then ends up at some
rock pools and like a seasonal waterfall and

467
00:25:40.519 --> 00:25:42.680
everything, so it's all pristine.
There's always water in it in the pools

468
00:25:42.680 --> 00:25:47.319
to an extent, so there's always
life there. It's just it was a

469
00:25:47.400 --> 00:25:48.759
weird thought, like I just decided
I'm going to go up. I'm just

470
00:25:48.839 --> 00:25:51.720
going to cut into the bush here
because it looks like there's a bit of

471
00:25:51.759 --> 00:25:56.599
the game trailer this ridge one,
but instead started heading up in there and

472
00:25:56.680 --> 00:25:59.200
they ended up finding it was like
it stuck out like dogs balls too,

473
00:25:59.359 --> 00:26:03.599
like a Neon sign X marker.
There's this big six foot X marker and

474
00:26:03.680 --> 00:26:06.559
they were both from the same tree
like that, and it was broken,

475
00:26:07.039 --> 00:26:08.839
but it had been put the other
way on it and stabbed into the ground.

476
00:26:10.359 --> 00:26:12.039
And I was just like, this
is nah, Like you read about

477
00:26:12.079 --> 00:26:17.079
this, you hear about it another
podcast, and nah, this isn't Did

478
00:26:17.200 --> 00:26:18.640
someone do this? Yeah, someone
could do it. If I'm up here,

479
00:26:19.000 --> 00:26:21.759
someone could do it. But I've
had to push you a bit of

480
00:26:21.759 --> 00:26:22.839
bush, so no one's been here
for a long time. And this is

481
00:26:23.599 --> 00:26:26.880
not that old really, it was
an old dead tree that was snapped and

482
00:26:26.960 --> 00:26:30.440
made into that. It was just
too surreal, like this is too good

483
00:26:30.480 --> 00:26:34.640
to be true, Like I've actually
found a large X marker stabbed or let's

484
00:26:34.640 --> 00:26:37.240
say, three inches into the ground, but being like as sick as your

485
00:26:37.279 --> 00:26:41.200
forearm size branch, maybe bigger,
and it had a fresh green sapling under

486
00:26:41.240 --> 00:26:42.920
it, and I was like,
if I can pull this out and it

487
00:26:42.960 --> 00:26:47.599
flings back up, someone's done this
because this hasn't fallen like that, especially

488
00:26:47.640 --> 00:26:49.200
with the canopy above. It didn't
have room for it to fall. Like

489
00:26:49.240 --> 00:26:52.880
you've ruled out everything being rational,
Okay, let's look at this. There's

490
00:26:52.920 --> 00:26:55.000
no dead fall that made it do
that. It couldn't get bounced off this

491
00:26:55.079 --> 00:26:57.680
and hit that. So the only
thing the conclusion was someone's done this or

492
00:26:57.720 --> 00:27:02.160
something has done this, because unless
you see what's doing it, you can't

493
00:27:02.519 --> 00:27:06.480
just assume. But it lines up
with everything in the subject. That's what

494
00:27:06.759 --> 00:27:10.000
yeah we do, that's what sasquatch
do, bigfoot, yeah, and all

495
00:27:10.079 --> 00:27:12.400
that. So I grabbed that sapling
out and it went pulling and flung straight

496
00:27:12.440 --> 00:27:15.119
back up, and it was down
under the middle of the X market and

497
00:27:15.119 --> 00:27:18.279
I'm like, Okay, that's weird
because you could see the leaves on the

498
00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:21.519
sapling were just starting to grow facing
the sun, so they'd only been there

499
00:27:21.559 --> 00:27:23.920
not long. But that log and
X marker looked like it had been there

500
00:27:23.960 --> 00:27:26.799
a lot longer than they had been
growing under there. And the fact that

501
00:27:26.880 --> 00:27:30.119
it's sprung back up something or someone's
put that there with how it is,

502
00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:33.079
and I'm like, okay, and
you start feeling it in the area,

503
00:27:33.119 --> 00:27:36.720
and the first du I found that
when I was Actually it was a week

504
00:27:36.839 --> 00:27:38.519
later after finding that x mark,
cause I didn't find anything more that day,

505
00:27:38.599 --> 00:27:41.160
went home. We came back a
week or two weeks later because I

506
00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:44.759
was I think I found an area
where they might freak in a lot more

507
00:27:44.839 --> 00:27:47.160
like this is in the bath part
of the bush where no one goes up

508
00:27:47.200 --> 00:27:49.680
a creek, not near any walking
trails or anything. And as I was

509
00:27:49.720 --> 00:27:53.839
walking back up the ridgeline from the
creek into that X markt spot, it

510
00:27:55.000 --> 00:27:57.599
was like the anything I can put
it down to is either whether it's like

511
00:27:57.720 --> 00:28:03.079
the indigenous spirits in the area or
infrasound. Because there was no wind that

512
00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:04.480
day or anything, it was sweaty
and I was but it was the same

513
00:28:04.559 --> 00:28:07.319
thing every time I went in,
and I had the same breakfast, same

514
00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:10.559
amount of water, all that so
that everything's in line was what would normally

515
00:28:10.640 --> 00:28:14.480
happen. And I just got this
feeling like I shouldn't be here, this

516
00:28:14.559 --> 00:28:17.079
isn't right, something's not right.
All the hair stood up on my arms,

517
00:28:17.440 --> 00:28:18.359
my whole body, my neck and
everything all the hair went up,

518
00:28:18.359 --> 00:28:21.880
and I was like, something's not
right. I've never had this for even

519
00:28:21.960 --> 00:28:23.279
even when I used to hunt,
like I've just and all of a sudden,

520
00:28:23.279 --> 00:28:26.000
the sickness hit my stomach. I'm
like, oh, feeling in your

521
00:28:26.079 --> 00:28:29.359
mouth. I think I'm going to
throw up. What's going on? I

522
00:28:29.440 --> 00:28:30.400
was like, nah, I got
to leave. Something doesn't want me here.

523
00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:33.160
I got to leave, and I
started walking away. Within five steps,

524
00:28:33.200 --> 00:28:34.960
I was like, no, if
this is in for sound, this

525
00:28:36.039 --> 00:28:37.279
is what I'm here for. I
want to try and get a rise,

526
00:28:37.359 --> 00:28:41.559
maybe see what's going to happen.
Turned around and were literally like two three

527
00:28:41.599 --> 00:28:45.920
steps, like a light switch,
bang, everything stopped. No sick feeling,

528
00:28:45.079 --> 00:28:48.640
the hairs weren't standing anymore, the
whole energy. It was just like

529
00:28:49.079 --> 00:28:52.279
and it was straight away, WHOA, that was weird. Something's going on.

530
00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:55.240
So I left that day because I
was like, no, something's not

531
00:28:55.359 --> 00:28:59.000
right in this area. Left out, and then another two three weeks gone,

532
00:28:59.240 --> 00:29:02.119
went back out to the same area, up a bit further from the

533
00:29:02.279 --> 00:29:06.440
X marker on the ridge and by
myself again a lot deeper in the bush.

534
00:29:06.440 --> 00:29:08.519
And I've got my pardner and my
two year old, so they're always

535
00:29:08.519 --> 00:29:11.720
in the back of my mind like
Okay, don't do anything stupid, don't

536
00:29:11.720 --> 00:29:15.720
go down crazy climbs or anything like
just watch step takes time. I always

537
00:29:15.759 --> 00:29:18.200
were on a snake gator, so
I get bitten by a snake and can't

538
00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:22.200
make it out. I was walking
up and filming examining another sackling that had

539
00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:25.640
been put under an old log that
had hits for old grass growing over it,

540
00:29:25.920 --> 00:29:27.359
but it was a fresh new sackling
that had been put under it to

541
00:29:27.440 --> 00:29:30.400
make like an archway over a gang
trail, and it's just you just look

542
00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:33.640
at it and go, how did
that happen when it's so young compared to

543
00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:37.720
the old log, and like looking
at it with the camera examine it,

544
00:29:37.759 --> 00:29:41.519
and I hear this and as I
look up, hearing like sounded like a

545
00:29:41.839 --> 00:29:45.440
huge deadfall branch, but it was
like someone was either hanging on it and

546
00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:48.799
the gradual weight was then just breaking. And as I look up, if

547
00:29:48.799 --> 00:29:52.359
you count one two, as you're
about to say two, that's as long

548
00:29:52.400 --> 00:29:56.680
as I saw whatever the hell it
was in the tree, obviously trying to

549
00:29:56.720 --> 00:29:59.359
climb down a tree slowly, and
it was stood on a branch, and

550
00:29:59.400 --> 00:30:03.119
it was just look up and you
see this black hairy mass with its head

551
00:30:03.160 --> 00:30:07.240
tucked in, almost looking like firemen
poled down the tree. So to me,

552
00:30:07.319 --> 00:30:10.240
it was just an oval black hairy
shape because the edges were all blurred,

553
00:30:10.799 --> 00:30:14.160
So to me, that's hair.
It's not just a bloody apparition up

554
00:30:14.240 --> 00:30:18.119
in a tree with physical weight breaking
branches. And it was at least an

555
00:30:18.119 --> 00:30:19.920
average man size, like my size. I'm almost six foot, I'm like

556
00:30:19.960 --> 00:30:23.079
one seven eight or something like that
high. I'm not crazy at all,

557
00:30:23.119 --> 00:30:27.400
but I'm not sure. But just
an average man's size with a stick wooly

558
00:30:27.480 --> 00:30:32.359
coat on was what I saw.
Fireman polling down a stick tree because obviously

559
00:30:32.400 --> 00:30:36.359
the branch broke under it trying to
be careful coming down. And then I

560
00:30:36.519 --> 00:30:40.319
just paused. I was like,
okay, that was either a big burnt

561
00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:44.559
dead fall from bushwise ages ago or
like talking to the camera because I'm like,

562
00:30:44.559 --> 00:30:48.119
holy shit, like just my next
thing, like something's happening, and

563
00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:51.759
I just went, okay, I
got to go have a look like nothing

564
00:30:51.880 --> 00:30:56.160
ran out. I waited about three
to five minutes. Nothing ran out.

565
00:30:56.279 --> 00:30:59.839
Whatever it was just fell and landed
and didn't move. So waiting that time,

566
00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:02.960
see something run out where you'd hear
like a pit of padder, you

567
00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:04.680
know what things sound like when they're
runing through bushes or running on the ground

568
00:31:04.680 --> 00:31:07.880
with leaf litter in the middle of
the bush. So I was like,

569
00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:11.119
okay, so I had to go
down this little gully, now back up

570
00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:12.680
the other side, and every twenty
steps or so, I'd stop and listen

571
00:31:12.720 --> 00:31:17.200
and talk to the camera, real
calmly, okay. Hidden up here,

572
00:31:17.480 --> 00:31:19.680
and you'd find even more weird wind
four branches, but some were facing the

573
00:31:19.720 --> 00:31:22.359
other way. This is weird in
here, just odd bush. You don't

574
00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:26.640
usually see it like this, almost
like it's been put there to stop things

575
00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:30.440
or people from coming through. And
I ended up finding a heelium balloon.

576
00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:32.839
I was like, this, what
the hell? Hell of the hell does

577
00:31:32.839 --> 00:31:36.480
the heelium balloon blowing here through all
the stick panopy as well it can do,

578
00:31:36.640 --> 00:31:40.640
but just like fucking humans, typical
rubbish everywhere in the middle of the

579
00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:44.759
bush where no one normally walks.
I picked that up and walked over to

580
00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:47.880
where I thought, why I saw
this thing, which is the same area,

581
00:31:48.359 --> 00:31:51.920
And I couldn't find any black,
dead full branches. You couldn't see

582
00:31:51.960 --> 00:31:55.839
anything the same size or shape,
color, It's only about twelve foot away

583
00:31:55.880 --> 00:31:59.000
from me, these bushes, and
I'm like with the camera like I can't

584
00:31:59.000 --> 00:32:00.559
see anything. And I was like, look up to the ridge the camera

585
00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:06.720
and all right, at those bushes, they're just stuck going someone grabbing onto

586
00:32:06.759 --> 00:32:10.240
it and shaking back and forth.
It wasn't something crimbing out going. It

587
00:32:10.400 --> 00:32:14.400
was literally you grab a branch and
you shake it really hard. And it

588
00:32:14.480 --> 00:32:15.839
was only doing it for about two
seconds. I turned back to it quickly

589
00:32:16.119 --> 00:32:20.079
and then the video can just see
them stop moving, and I just went,

590
00:32:20.680 --> 00:32:22.440
hell, loop, it's right there. It's right there. It's right

591
00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:25.400
there. It's any twelve feet away
looking around waiting no response, nothing more

592
00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:29.839
shaking. And I'm here standing in
the middle of the bush, down a

593
00:32:29.920 --> 00:32:31.799
raffine, up another gully, bit
going how the fuck am I going to

594
00:32:31.839 --> 00:32:36.240
get out of here without running like
a chase. This is all these thoughts

595
00:32:36.279 --> 00:32:37.720
going through my head, and I
just went I was probably a go one

596
00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:40.160
or anything and going now, and
in my head, I'm just like,

597
00:32:40.240 --> 00:32:43.920
that's not a dolata, that's not
a law. Nothing ran out. I

598
00:32:44.079 --> 00:32:46.759
just had the bushes shaken at me, and obviously, being heavy into the

599
00:32:46.839 --> 00:32:51.440
subject, I'd heard and been told
by indigenous people, if you get the

600
00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:53.759
bushes shaken at you, that's a
warning to leave the area. They're trying

601
00:32:53.799 --> 00:32:57.720
to scare you off. All I
could picture in my head was it doesn't

602
00:32:57.720 --> 00:33:00.720
want me here. It was pretty
much like a meat I was black bear,

603
00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:02.319
bec a small black bear over there. That's the size and what it

604
00:33:02.400 --> 00:33:07.119
looked like, scaling down the true
Obviously we don't have beers here because they

605
00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:10.119
wouldn't bloody be able to survive just
with the heat alone. And I just

606
00:33:10.519 --> 00:33:15.000
slowly went out, but I was
a bit disorientated after that, and I

607
00:33:15.119 --> 00:33:16.720
slipped down the gully and fell on
my arms, dropped the camera and it's

608
00:33:16.759 --> 00:33:20.920
in the video as well, and
I'm just like walked out and actually got

609
00:33:21.240 --> 00:33:23.519
not lost, but just disorientated getting
back out. I just kept going over

610
00:33:23.559 --> 00:33:27.279
the gullies instead of down to the
creek and then out, And it was

611
00:33:27.400 --> 00:33:30.119
just a bit almost again like it
was a dream, like it was too

612
00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:32.119
surreal, like this shit like this
is happening common, like this is often

613
00:33:32.400 --> 00:33:37.279
this is within three months of the
original account, Like this is so soon,

614
00:33:37.359 --> 00:33:39.000
this is happening again. They're obviously
still in the area. So I

615
00:33:39.400 --> 00:33:45.920
recorded myself straight away saying the exact
account that happened, and even send it

616
00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:49.960
to Sarah Bignore who runs a Yario
podcast here in Australia, and she used

617
00:33:49.960 --> 00:33:52.519
to work a lot with the AAI, getting reports and interviewing people and we've

618
00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:55.519
actually become good mates to do with
it all the subject and I sent it

619
00:33:55.559 --> 00:33:59.279
straight to her and spout that's insane. Like I've heard a lot about bush's

620
00:33:59.319 --> 00:34:02.559
being shaken and it's a warning to
get out of the area. So after

621
00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:05.920
that happened, it just fueled the
fire over more. I've got to see

622
00:34:05.960 --> 00:34:07.559
this. Even though I saw what
I saw, A black, hairy mass

623
00:34:07.679 --> 00:34:10.760
isn't arms and legs in a head, It isn't IDEs looking back at me.

624
00:34:12.360 --> 00:34:14.440
You want that face to face,
but maybe from a bit more of

625
00:34:14.440 --> 00:34:16.880
a distance in twelve forty six meters
where it's shaking the bushes, saying I

626
00:34:16.920 --> 00:34:20.280
don't want your here, but I
want to talk to you. Get out.

627
00:34:20.400 --> 00:34:22.480
Even then he said hello, I'm
not responding and looking back on the

628
00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:25.960
video comparing it, I've been back
to that same spot, taken a photo

629
00:34:27.079 --> 00:34:30.679
standing in the same area, lining
up the trees, and there's just this

630
00:34:30.960 --> 00:34:35.679
dark shadow right where I've actually climbed
in where it was under this lantana with

631
00:34:35.719 --> 00:34:37.559
a tree gray in the mill.
There's like a small, not massive,

632
00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:43.559
maybe a meter diameter of open area
under the shrub, and I climbed in

633
00:34:43.639 --> 00:34:45.599
and I grabbed the tree and I
shook it again, and it was the

634
00:34:45.679 --> 00:34:47.039
exact thing. I'm like, whatever
it was, it did, it was

635
00:34:47.079 --> 00:34:51.079
standing right way in here. So
I went back, took the photo and

636
00:34:51.199 --> 00:34:52.639
you can compare, and in the
photos you can see the shadow. You

637
00:34:52.679 --> 00:34:55.920
can make leaves out the shadow,
but there's a shadow in the original encountered

638
00:34:57.599 --> 00:35:01.119
screenshot where it's just so dark that
you can't see any leaf or anything,

639
00:35:01.199 --> 00:35:05.159
or even a branch behind it that
we've lined up. It's annoying because no

640
00:35:05.199 --> 00:35:07.800
matter how much effects and everything you
put on it, you can't tell there's

641
00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:12.679
so much leaf over it, which
is typical. And even filming on a

642
00:35:12.719 --> 00:35:15.440
phone. I film on Android.
It's got a really good camera. The

643
00:35:15.559 --> 00:35:19.000
audio never translates in person to what
it is when you're film it, so

644
00:35:19.039 --> 00:35:22.360
you can still hear I'm shaking,
but it's just I'm like, oh,

645
00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:25.679
like again, this is so loud
in person that they can't even describe it.

646
00:35:25.719 --> 00:35:28.840
The people from a video, you've
got to point it out almost to

647
00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:31.239
where the sound is. And so
even seeing that and everything, I still

648
00:35:31.280 --> 00:35:34.920
went, I've got to kick going. I need to see for myself.

649
00:35:35.000 --> 00:35:37.239
I need to know. So we'd
go out. I met up with a

650
00:35:37.320 --> 00:35:40.480
mate who was a mate now,
but he contacted me through my YouTube channel

651
00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:44.679
about it all because he's had stuff
happened to him when he was a kid,

652
00:35:44.679 --> 00:35:46.360
and he actually saw when he was
twelve or in the end of or

653
00:35:46.440 --> 00:35:50.480
Man up north in the northern tip
of Australia, and they thought it was

654
00:35:50.480 --> 00:35:52.159
an indigenous bloke, but they were
like, why wasn't he wearing a loincloth.

655
00:35:52.199 --> 00:35:55.239
He's just this juncture just hanging out. He's got grayskin, like he

656
00:35:55.360 --> 00:35:59.599
should be blackshit, and he like
all these thoughts and he didn't realize till

657
00:35:59.679 --> 00:36:00.519
later and you went to a museum
and they had a statue of in the

658
00:36:00.599 --> 00:36:04.960
end it Man. That's exactly what
I saw like in the bush, and

659
00:36:05.000 --> 00:36:07.519
I was like, that's pretty insane. So we ended up linking up and

660
00:36:07.039 --> 00:36:09.440
I took him out and showed him
the X mark and everything, and we

661
00:36:09.519 --> 00:36:13.679
started doing a lot of research together
because my brother in law was working a

662
00:36:13.719 --> 00:36:15.800
lot more and he couldn't actually make
it out. So we started going out

663
00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:21.920
a lot more and expanding the area
of investigation research. I put it loosely

664
00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:24.280
in quotes because obviously we're all just
doing no one's an expert. You can

665
00:36:24.320 --> 00:36:28.039
call it research, but you're just
out there trying to finances for yourself.

666
00:36:28.599 --> 00:36:30.760
We ended up going to there's a
huge power line isn't running through the park,

667
00:36:31.199 --> 00:36:34.559
and obviously, with a lot of
stories, Blot of Gain uses the

668
00:36:34.599 --> 00:36:38.079
power line trail to travel through because
it's a quicker access to areas. We

669
00:36:38.199 --> 00:36:40.840
started having a look up near there
and we started finding all these new breaks

670
00:36:40.840 --> 00:36:45.039
and we're like, this is really
weird. You can follow the trail up

671
00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:46.639
the hill, you'd find a break
here. Another ten or so meters up,

672
00:36:46.639 --> 00:36:51.679
you'd find another break over another ten
meters over, like just weird breaks.

673
00:36:51.719 --> 00:36:53.280
And they'd all have that little twist
to it as well. And some

674
00:36:53.400 --> 00:36:57.320
of them were fresh green, like
only a couple of weeks, like two

675
00:36:57.360 --> 00:37:00.639
weeks old. It was like this
is like someone's done this. There's no

676
00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:04.079
dead fall or anything. A deer
can't push past this or a wild goat

677
00:37:04.519 --> 00:37:07.039
and snap it and twist it like, what's going on, there's no handmer,

678
00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:10.440
it's just weird. We'd follow that
up the hill. Just as i'd

679
00:37:10.679 --> 00:37:14.639
press stop on my recording to start
a new video, because I don't just

680
00:37:14.719 --> 00:37:17.920
let it run. We hear this
big thud and a russell like a cow

681
00:37:19.199 --> 00:37:21.320
Matts for my mate that I go
with, Matt, he described at first

682
00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:23.679
it was like a cow getting up. It was like thud, like clear.

683
00:37:24.079 --> 00:37:28.039
The thud was just too loud to
be a kangaroo jumping or anything.

684
00:37:28.039 --> 00:37:30.800
And if it was a kangaroo,
you'd hear them continually jumping down the gully

685
00:37:30.920 --> 00:37:35.440
or whatever. A big thud in
a russell. And we just looked at

686
00:37:35.440 --> 00:37:37.079
each other and I went We waited
about a minute, and I went,

687
00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:39.760
we're not missing out of this again. So I said, hand signed it.

688
00:37:40.079 --> 00:37:43.679
I'm going to go up the hill. I used to hear and record

689
00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:45.599
and just keep an eye out.
So I went around up the hill fast

690
00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:49.039
but trying to be quiet. And
as I was going up, there was

691
00:37:49.079 --> 00:37:52.079
a big gully down to my right
that was probably forty meters down, like

692
00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:55.920
huge. I could hear this little
rustle every so often, but almost like

693
00:37:57.000 --> 00:37:59.280
it was a leaf falling on ground. But it was way down the gully.

694
00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:01.440
It's not a leaf falling in because
that's land to me. Same with

695
00:38:01.559 --> 00:38:04.679
the initial one. When the plane
went over, you'd hear it like every

696
00:38:04.760 --> 00:38:07.920
six meters or so, like further
and further, like too fast to be

697
00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:09.440
like, what the hell's doing that? And as I was walking up,

698
00:38:09.440 --> 00:38:13.239
I could hear that little russ around
there. Didn't really pay any intention to

699
00:38:13.440 --> 00:38:15.480
because the noise we just heard in
front of me, it was like a

700
00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:19.960
huge animal getting up. So I
was the cow with a sud. I

701
00:38:20.039 --> 00:38:22.400
got up down like there's nothing up
here, Matt, come up here.

702
00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:24.880
And so we had a little look
around and did a loop of the area

703
00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:28.079
and it goes right up to the
top of the hill where the power line

704
00:38:28.119 --> 00:38:31.119
cut is, and there's no trees
there, but there's two perfectly snapped saplings

705
00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:36.119
like bent and writing or twists.
So you've literally gone like that yourself with

706
00:38:36.199 --> 00:38:39.760
your hands, not a gradual lean
and snapped over perfect bend and twists.

707
00:38:39.760 --> 00:38:43.960
And we're like, what is going
on? This is what everyone finds around

708
00:38:43.960 --> 00:38:45.440
the world, This is all it
is. We just heard that huge thing.

709
00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:49.960
I've had my other two experiences that
can only be that. Then we

710
00:38:50.039 --> 00:38:52.880
sat there and Matt was like on
the fence about it. All. I'd

711
00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:54.400
like to believe they're real, but
I haven't experienced enough yet. Even though

712
00:38:54.400 --> 00:38:58.559
he saw it in the end of
for me in even with that instance him

713
00:38:58.599 --> 00:39:01.480
hearing what heard because he used to
raise anything that big would make so much

714
00:39:01.559 --> 00:39:06.159
noise running away from us with this
leaf litter and dry ground, yeah,

715
00:39:06.159 --> 00:39:08.360
it's insane. Like reflecting on what
just happened, We're like, let's go

716
00:39:08.440 --> 00:39:10.880
have another look where we think we
heard it. And we ended up finding

717
00:39:10.960 --> 00:39:15.920
this perfect bedding area where all the
grass had been laid down flat from something

718
00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:19.960
laying in there under all this dead
logs and sticks. Check this out,

719
00:39:20.119 --> 00:39:22.800
What the hell's going on? And
I didn't take my therm all that day,

720
00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:24.320
my therm or monocular because I would
have been able to look in there

721
00:39:24.360 --> 00:39:29.079
and see if something had just been
laying in there. But I ended up

722
00:39:29.079 --> 00:39:30.079
crawling in there and going, this
is huge in here, Like you could

723
00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:34.639
fit three grand men side by side
laying flat in here. And the weird

724
00:39:34.679 --> 00:39:37.679
thing about it was there was this
branch in front of it, looking down

725
00:39:37.760 --> 00:39:40.000
here where we just came from.
That was all the dead branches at the

726
00:39:40.159 --> 00:39:43.719
end, the thin end at the
ground, but the thick end off the

727
00:39:43.719 --> 00:39:45.360
tree was facing up, and we're
like, this is weird. How'd this

728
00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:49.239
fall in? We looked up.
That hasn't come from here. There's no

729
00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:51.920
fresh breaking. You could see even
though it was a dead old branch,

730
00:39:52.280 --> 00:39:54.760
you could see it was fresh exposed
to the elements, the light brown in

731
00:39:54.880 --> 00:39:59.159
a part of the branch, And
we're like, why was that facing up?

732
00:39:59.559 --> 00:40:01.000
If that snapped off a branch above
us, that would have fallen down

733
00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:05.320
directly where it had fallen from.
And we couldn't find within a ten meter

734
00:40:05.400 --> 00:40:08.960
radish around any broken branches. So
whatever made the thud, someone has done

735
00:40:09.000 --> 00:40:13.079
this has put that branch in up
that way to block out the view from

736
00:40:13.119 --> 00:40:15.639
coming up the hill, So you
would be a completely camouflage, especially if

737
00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:17.599
you're a dark shape. And I
even layd in there and got map to

738
00:40:17.639 --> 00:40:21.599
go down the hill moll and he's
I can't see Yeah. I can only

739
00:40:21.599 --> 00:40:22.320
see you because I know that you're
there. If I didn't know you were

740
00:40:22.360 --> 00:40:27.280
there, i'd just walk straight past
you. That was the first like bedding

741
00:40:27.480 --> 00:40:31.519
area that we found of something large, especially with the grass trails where kangaroos

742
00:40:31.639 --> 00:40:35.960
run through. But whatever this thing
was that made the noise, they'd gone

743
00:40:36.000 --> 00:40:38.960
down the galley oricon and then back
up this little offshe season or stream.

744
00:40:39.199 --> 00:40:43.400
But you could hear it rustling every
so often. But how quick they move

745
00:40:43.480 --> 00:40:46.320
and how quiet they can be,
it's just it's stupid. It's not fair

746
00:40:47.159 --> 00:40:52.079
to try and play catch them or
anything. You're just waiting that extra If

747
00:40:52.119 --> 00:40:54.199
you wait five seconds, you're going
to miss it. That's the conclusion I've

748
00:40:54.199 --> 00:40:57.719
come to you. Now. You
can't really wait, so you got to

749
00:40:57.719 --> 00:41:01.159
try and override your fear or self
preservation to go. This is what I

750
00:41:01.199 --> 00:41:04.400
want to see. I need to
go now. But you need to know

751
00:41:04.480 --> 00:41:07.320
the risks. Obviously, if that's
the case, since then, had no

752
00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:12.679
more experiences where hearing or seeing things
come out of trees or running away and

753
00:41:12.760 --> 00:41:17.039
stomping. But I've found a lot
of freshwater cry cause perfectly broken at the

754
00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:21.639
knuckle, sucked clean, not pecked
by a bird where you'd see like fractures

755
00:41:21.679 --> 00:41:24.119
and everything. You can just tell
when because everyone's majority of people who didn't

756
00:41:24.119 --> 00:41:28.320
seefeed. You know how you do
it. Sucked clean, whatever left side

757
00:41:28.360 --> 00:41:30.440
by side on the middle of a
rock in the middle of a string.

758
00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:32.440
I'm like, water rats don't do
that. There'd be nibbles everywhere and bits

759
00:41:32.440 --> 00:41:36.960
of shit everywhere laying around. They're
finding lots of little things like that.

760
00:41:37.599 --> 00:41:39.119
You'd find big rocks shifted out of
the way and you try and move it.

761
00:41:39.159 --> 00:41:42.559
You're like, hey, I can't
move this. This is ridiculous.

762
00:41:43.239 --> 00:41:46.079
You find like little diggings. The
same with the bird feathers just scattered everywhere.

763
00:41:46.639 --> 00:41:50.880
And even before my mate and I
had that main encounter where we heard

764
00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:53.000
them stomping up the creek, we
walked up near the power on track just

765
00:41:53.199 --> 00:41:55.920
being like we just get walking on
the track, but it doing early into

766
00:41:55.960 --> 00:42:00.320
it and the smell wafted in and
it was the only thing that I can

767
00:42:00.360 --> 00:42:04.119
put it to the closest thing I've
ever smelled was a male goat that kisses

768
00:42:04.159 --> 00:42:07.679
all over itself or its pheromones and
to attractive females and they stink it's rotten.

769
00:42:07.960 --> 00:42:12.360
And it wafted it in from below
us the creek down belowst it lingered

770
00:42:12.360 --> 00:42:14.880
around for about two minutes and we
were puffing. I'm walking up the still

771
00:42:14.960 --> 00:42:17.239
going you smell that and you're like
yeah, we stopped and like, oh

772
00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:20.840
it suon as like a goat or
like a cattle yard or a cattle truck,

773
00:42:20.960 --> 00:42:23.039
just stinky, like kissing shit.
And then it went away and we're

774
00:42:23.039 --> 00:42:24.960
like, oh, that's weird,
And we chilled there for a bit,

775
00:42:25.000 --> 00:42:28.639
had a drink of water. It
was coming on dark a bit. We

776
00:42:28.760 --> 00:42:30.719
waited a bit. About five minutes
later, the smell wafted back in from

777
00:42:30.760 --> 00:42:35.039
the same direction. That was like
something was laying or sitting down there,

778
00:42:35.360 --> 00:42:38.360
And if it was a goat,
it was all antana and you cannot move

779
00:42:38.440 --> 00:42:43.360
through that shit without making any noise
unless you are snake or something. Even

780
00:42:43.400 --> 00:42:45.519
then snakes make noise in it.
But whatever it was, we were just

781
00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:49.360
like, that's really weird. Maybe
it's one of them how people say they

782
00:42:49.400 --> 00:42:52.239
stink cut. We don't know,
just assuming well, inconclusive like most things

783
00:42:52.280 --> 00:42:57.480
you find, even with finding all
the brakes and twists, it's really inconclusive

784
00:42:57.559 --> 00:43:00.440
until you see something doing it or
fine hair on it or well. The

785
00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:04.199
only thing is that we're all finding
it around the world in all different cultures.

786
00:43:04.199 --> 00:43:06.880
They've had stories of it and what
to do when you come across them,

787
00:43:07.440 --> 00:43:09.320
and it all lines up with everything, so everyone's finding the same shit.

788
00:43:09.679 --> 00:43:12.840
And no one can prove that it's
a natural animal doing it. So

789
00:43:13.639 --> 00:43:16.360
not that these things aren't natural.
These are the most natural thing that would

790
00:43:16.400 --> 00:43:20.039
be out there that could do this, the most plausful thing. But when

791
00:43:20.039 --> 00:43:23.119
you're finding stuff like that, and
we have continuously, you just go there's

792
00:43:23.159 --> 00:43:27.920
something going on out here, whether
it's bloody supernatural or which to me it

793
00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:30.760
can't be because of how solid I've
heard it and seeing the footprints. It's

794
00:43:30.760 --> 00:43:37.920
a physical thing. So it's just
more questions now than answers. That's what

795
00:43:37.079 --> 00:43:40.679
keeps me coming back. Man.
It's always more questions than answers. I

796
00:43:40.760 --> 00:43:44.840
want to talk about some of the
things that you've talked about here. Let's

797
00:43:44.840 --> 00:43:49.639
start with the tree breaks and the
structures. Those have always been some of

798
00:43:49.719 --> 00:43:52.159
the most subjective stuff to me,
I tell you, until I went up

799
00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:59.039
to Radium with Todd standing back in
October of last year, and either he's

800
00:43:59.119 --> 00:44:02.920
got people out there or he's out
there breaking these fricking trees. I have

801
00:44:04.159 --> 00:44:09.119
never seen so many tree breaks and
weird structures. It's literally everywhere. I

802
00:44:09.239 --> 00:44:13.440
find them here on my property in
North Carolina. Not in the same type

803
00:44:13.480 --> 00:44:17.360
of numbers, but almost the exact
identical thing. I tried to break these

804
00:44:17.400 --> 00:44:22.039
trees. I've got it on my
YouTube channel. Kyle was filming me while

805
00:44:22.079 --> 00:44:23.760
I was trying to break maybe a
two and a half inch tree, and

806
00:44:23.840 --> 00:44:28.559
I was able to break it.
It looked similar to what we were finding,

807
00:44:28.800 --> 00:44:31.199
but not exactly. And it's hard
to explain to people who have never

808
00:44:31.320 --> 00:44:37.760
experienced it in person what I mean
by not exactly. I know what snowload

809
00:44:37.840 --> 00:44:39.400
looks like. We get snowload here. We didn't get any this year so

810
00:44:39.519 --> 00:44:44.320
far, but we've had as much
as almost four feet of snow here on

811
00:44:44.440 --> 00:44:46.880
our property. In the past.
We've got trees that are broken over by

812
00:44:46.960 --> 00:44:51.119
snowload. When those kind of things, I know what that looks like.

813
00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:55.159
This is different. It's just different, and that people of course that skeptical

814
00:44:55.159 --> 00:44:58.679
people go, well, and I
say it to myself, I'm very skeptical,

815
00:44:58.760 --> 00:45:00.719
so I say, what could it
be? Could it be a natural

816
00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:04.719
occurrence. I don't know. As
far as the tree breaks, I know

817
00:45:04.840 --> 00:45:08.360
you've explained them already, but you
said something about a twist, because that's

818
00:45:08.400 --> 00:45:12.119
something that I was seeing a little
bit in Radium, and I've seen it

819
00:45:12.199 --> 00:45:14.880
a couple of times here on the
property. Sometimes it's just a break.

820
00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:19.840
It's almost like somebody use some sort
of mechanical something, or you would just

821
00:45:19.880 --> 00:45:22.360
have to Yeah, it's just a
perfect rid angle, or you just have

822
00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:28.599
to have enough strength in your wrist
to take up two inch sapling and not

823
00:45:28.760 --> 00:45:31.199
completely break it. But it's what
Todd calls a clean break, right,

824
00:45:32.000 --> 00:45:35.519
It's just hard to explain if you've
never seen it. Is that the kind

825
00:45:35.519 --> 00:45:37.679
of stuff that you guys are seeing, And as far as maybe like the

826
00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:42.360
X stuff, is that a common
thing that you're hearing from other people that

827
00:45:42.440 --> 00:45:45.559
are into this over there, that
are finding similar things in other places,

828
00:45:45.599 --> 00:45:49.920
and stay tuned for more sasquatch out
to see. We'll be right back after

829
00:45:50.039 --> 00:45:55.920
these messages. Yeah, that's it
very common. And the way that I

830
00:45:55.960 --> 00:46:00.960
can describe it is it's like a
fast twitchol Like it's a pop. It's

831
00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:02.760
a quick pop. It's not a
gradual and then snap, because you can

832
00:46:02.800 --> 00:46:07.800
see that stressed. If you're gradually
snapping it, you'll see it slowly and

833
00:46:07.840 --> 00:46:09.719
then it will peel out of itself. Whereas these ones that we're finding a

834
00:46:09.800 --> 00:46:14.039
literal straight fast. You could do
it if you created some sort of metal

835
00:46:14.079 --> 00:46:16.320
mechanism and slid it all the way
over the branch and then just pull and

836
00:46:16.400 --> 00:46:20.599
tried to pop it like at right
angle. But these are literally popped at

837
00:46:20.599 --> 00:46:23.960
a right angle or twisted or broken
ferociously or just with so much strength that

838
00:46:24.239 --> 00:46:28.880
like I've tried to snap on myself, and they're doing that slow pop and

839
00:46:28.920 --> 00:46:30.639
then splintering out. It's similar,
but it's not the same, like you

840
00:46:30.679 --> 00:46:35.440
said, But these ones that we're
finding a right angle pop and then twist

841
00:46:35.519 --> 00:46:37.960
it, and we're looking inside because
there's grubs over here that eat out and

842
00:46:38.159 --> 00:46:42.280
they ride out the center of the
trees, even saplings, and you can

843
00:46:42.320 --> 00:46:44.760
see those ones. You can see
like the hollows in them, and like

844
00:46:45.159 --> 00:46:47.079
even some of those are twisted,
but you're like, just the ones that

845
00:46:47.119 --> 00:46:50.639
don't have grubs in them, that
are snapped at a rin angle are perfectly

846
00:46:50.719 --> 00:46:53.039
twisted. There was a point where
above the power line we found like a

847
00:46:53.119 --> 00:46:58.360
forty meter wide stretch of them in
this one column going down towards the nash

848
00:46:58.400 --> 00:47:00.440
of well of the park that we
were in. We were like, is

849
00:47:00.519 --> 00:47:05.400
this from just from back burning and
fire popping it and just like the temperature

850
00:47:05.679 --> 00:47:07.840
of the moisture in the tree twisting
it and then popping over, and we're

851
00:47:07.920 --> 00:47:10.559
like, then it would be everywhere. That's the only thing we can put

852
00:47:10.559 --> 00:47:14.320
it down to. And even then
we ruled that out ourselves because we're like,

853
00:47:14.559 --> 00:47:16.800
it's only in this forty meter space. There's dead trees and burnt trees

854
00:47:16.800 --> 00:47:21.920
all along this whole section of road
in this mountain area. That is not

855
00:47:22.039 --> 00:47:24.360
what it is. So it has
to be someone doing it because I've got

856
00:47:24.480 --> 00:47:29.639
horses and stuff in my paddock here
at home, and they've snapped over saplings

857
00:47:29.639 --> 00:47:31.159
and stuff, but at their body
height, and you can see it's a

858
00:47:31.159 --> 00:47:35.199
way cleaner break than what we would
do. It's like a halfway between what

859
00:47:35.280 --> 00:47:37.360
I'm finding and what we can do. And even looking at that, I'm

860
00:47:37.400 --> 00:47:40.400
going, I'm finding this shit six
foot up a tree in the middle of

861
00:47:40.480 --> 00:47:45.719
the bush. So there's not something
giant walking around brushing past it. There's

862
00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:47.440
not someone hanging off it, because
it'd be too gradually you'd have to jump

863
00:47:47.519 --> 00:47:51.119
and it would slowly be green enough
where it would bend and then it would

864
00:47:51.119 --> 00:47:53.880
splinter out. This is a perfect
grab thumb under it or something and then

865
00:47:53.920 --> 00:47:57.800
pop down. It's like when we
walk to the bush and you're walking through.

866
00:47:58.119 --> 00:48:00.360
You just grab a leaf off or
something, twist it and see when

867
00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:02.280
people have walked through a track.
I often find it when I go off

868
00:48:02.320 --> 00:48:05.440
the main walking track. We're off
the little side skirts and you're like,

869
00:48:05.440 --> 00:48:07.079
ohyah, someone's walks it here.
It's twisted there. But when you find

870
00:48:07.119 --> 00:48:10.679
it up at your head height,
it's not a person when it's that pick

871
00:48:10.719 --> 00:48:14.760
as well. It is a common
thing x markets and stuff, especially up

872
00:48:14.880 --> 00:48:19.239
the Gold Coast hinterland here in Queensland. It's just out of New South Wales,

873
00:48:19.519 --> 00:48:22.719
Southeast Queensland. The aaire finding a
lot of this in a Tropics mountain

874
00:48:22.800 --> 00:48:28.440
range. They're finding the sticks stabbing
into the ground from what should be their

875
00:48:28.480 --> 00:48:31.159
own weight. But it's impossible for
how small these sticks are to stab into

876
00:48:31.159 --> 00:48:35.000
the ground and then make an ex
or even just be stabbed straight into the

877
00:48:35.079 --> 00:48:37.840
ground. But a lot of people
that researchers in Australia find all the twist

878
00:48:37.960 --> 00:48:42.639
breaks, all the perfect pop down
breaks in the middle of nowhere where no

879
00:48:42.719 --> 00:48:45.639
one should be doing this shit.
Another thing I wanted to talk to you

880
00:48:45.719 --> 00:48:50.960
about was something that just happened as
we're talking. We literally recorded this on

881
00:48:51.000 --> 00:48:54.760
a Friday. The show that aired
today was with Fred from Alaska, and

882
00:48:55.039 --> 00:49:00.039
Fred was having some hair raising,
harrowing experiences with these things, and one

883
00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:05.000
thing he brought up was the tongue
pops that these things were doing. They

884
00:49:05.039 --> 00:49:07.559
were watching this a couple of individuals
that they had seen on a couple of

885
00:49:07.599 --> 00:49:14.239
occasions doing these tongue pops or clicks
out in the open where they can see

886
00:49:14.280 --> 00:49:19.360
them, and him describing the percussion
and being able he literally said, I

887
00:49:19.360 --> 00:49:22.800
think he described it as being able
to fill it on your clothes, like

888
00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:27.039
the percussion. This thing was so
loud from eighty feet away. You mentioned

889
00:49:27.079 --> 00:49:30.440
tongue pops and tongue clicks earlier.
I'm wondering, and I've wondered this for

890
00:49:30.519 --> 00:49:34.480
a while now, if some of
the what we consider wood knocks, I've

891
00:49:34.480 --> 00:49:37.840
heard wood knocks here, I've heard
them in radium, or at least I

892
00:49:37.880 --> 00:49:40.559
think it is. Todd has this
theory that it's not wood on wood up

893
00:49:40.559 --> 00:49:45.000
there, it's rocks on wood.
They're picking up rocks and hitting trees and

894
00:49:45.440 --> 00:49:49.199
hearing it in person, it sounds
very similar to that. What I hear

895
00:49:49.519 --> 00:49:52.679
here didn't sound like a rock on
a tree. It did sound more like

896
00:49:52.800 --> 00:49:55.000
wood on wood, but what do
you think about if you guys are hearing

897
00:49:55.039 --> 00:49:59.280
the tongue pops and the clicks,
and other people are describing that, are

898
00:49:59.440 --> 00:50:02.480
they hearing would knock similar to overhear
or is that all they're hearing is the

899
00:50:02.599 --> 00:50:07.159
tongue popping and clicking? And do
you think they might be interchangeable and people

900
00:50:07.199 --> 00:50:10.360
are mistaking one for the other.
From what I heard, I definitely heard

901
00:50:10.440 --> 00:50:15.639
them making some former communication. The
best thing I can put is that it

902
00:50:15.760 --> 00:50:19.239
was a hard stick on a holo
log. But if you've got the vocals

903
00:50:19.280 --> 00:50:22.639
that they say they have the lung
capacity that something this big would have,

904
00:50:23.199 --> 00:50:27.280
I think it would be so easy
for them, obviously learning from a young

905
00:50:27.320 --> 00:50:30.920
age being taught that as your language
and communication, to be popping with their

906
00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:34.039
mouth because growing up in like you'd
school, you'd have mates up would be

907
00:50:34.079 --> 00:50:36.599
easily at our doors so loud,
and they get in trouble by the teachers

908
00:50:36.599 --> 00:50:39.000
because it was interrupting the class how
loud it was. And just from that

909
00:50:39.199 --> 00:50:43.360
alone, with how small some of
these kids were doing it, it's something

910
00:50:43.440 --> 00:50:45.199
this big knew how to do that
it would sound so spot on, and

911
00:50:45.280 --> 00:50:49.840
you just could you'd be able to
hear that it would be a completely different

912
00:50:49.880 --> 00:50:52.760
noise that was amplified that much.
I'm in two minds about it. A

913
00:50:52.800 --> 00:50:57.079
lot of the ones that you do
here sound like wood on wood. Some

914
00:50:57.280 --> 00:51:00.239
sound like rock on wood. But
it's good that you've actually got a whitw

915
00:51:00.320 --> 00:51:02.360
Not many people actually see them doing
it. I've heard some stories of people

916
00:51:02.360 --> 00:51:06.639
seeing them hit a rock on a
tree or something. But obviously it's up

917
00:51:06.679 --> 00:51:10.199
for a discussion as we are now. But I think personally i'd have to

918
00:51:10.280 --> 00:51:15.000
experience it again to now that I've
come to my fear. If something happens,

919
00:51:15.400 --> 00:51:19.000
maybe I'd be able to compose and
be like, that's definitely this.

920
00:51:19.119 --> 00:51:21.920
I could hear the saliva in that, or the clean snap of the time

921
00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:23.800
on the bottom of his mouth or
something. That's just my opinion on it.

922
00:51:24.239 --> 00:51:27.840
I'm still in two minds what it
could have been. But it was

923
00:51:27.920 --> 00:51:32.039
too rhythmic, too timed perfectly for
it to not be something doing it as

924
00:51:32.079 --> 00:51:38.119
well. Gotcha last couple of questions
as far as physical descriptions of what you

925
00:51:38.239 --> 00:51:43.079
guys are seeing over there, Obviously
people are reporting these things. You're in

926
00:51:43.159 --> 00:51:45.519
contact with other people. I'm assuming
I don't want to put words in your

927
00:51:45.559 --> 00:51:49.880
mouth. Have you heard physical descriptions? I'm curious about that because they tend

928
00:51:49.920 --> 00:51:52.719
to vary greatly in some cases here. I've had people on the show that

929
00:51:52.800 --> 00:51:57.360
have seen what they believe to be
albinos or white ones. They seem to

930
00:51:57.400 --> 00:52:00.960
be larger in the Pacific Northwest or
the Bergman's rule. The farther north you

931
00:52:00.039 --> 00:52:04.360
go, the bigger things are skunk
apes seem to be a little smaller and

932
00:52:04.440 --> 00:52:08.760
scraggly and different looking. What kind
of physical descriptions are you hearing or people

933
00:52:08.880 --> 00:52:13.360
seeing over there. It's a two
part question that has nothing to do with

934
00:52:13.440 --> 00:52:15.280
the other, but I want to
get it in there so you can answer

935
00:52:15.360 --> 00:52:17.079
them both. I don't know if
you've heard the show that we've done in

936
00:52:17.159 --> 00:52:20.960
the past. We've when and I've
talked about it on that Bigfoot podcast.

937
00:52:20.960 --> 00:52:25.679
I think we did a live show
about it about kangaroos being responsible for some

938
00:52:25.840 --> 00:52:30.360
of the dog man sightings here in
the United States. You clearly have experience

939
00:52:30.440 --> 00:52:34.719
with kangaroos. I've talked to other
Australian people in the past who have had

940
00:52:34.760 --> 00:52:38.199
experiences of kangaroos. It's completely subjective, and I know I'm putting you on

941
00:52:38.239 --> 00:52:42.960
the hot seat. But let's finish
that out with what do you think the

942
00:52:43.079 --> 00:52:46.719
possibility is that we do have kangaroo? There is a population of wild kangaroos

943
00:52:46.760 --> 00:52:49.920
over here. I don't know how
many there are, but it's been proven

944
00:52:49.960 --> 00:52:52.960
there's kangaroos that are loose in America. What do you think about what your

945
00:52:53.000 --> 00:52:58.559
personal opinion is on how could a
person mistake a kangaroo for a dog man

946
00:52:58.639 --> 00:53:00.960
in a high stress situation. Start
with the sort of the yowie description of

947
00:53:01.000 --> 00:53:04.599
what people are seeing over there in
Australia, and then move into that if

948
00:53:04.639 --> 00:53:07.599
you don't mind. Okay, So
there's three different types we have over here

949
00:53:07.639 --> 00:53:12.039
that be tired by indigenous as well
and that people have seen. You've got

950
00:53:12.119 --> 00:53:15.840
the brown jacks or jungity, which
are really small, so they'd only I

951
00:53:15.840 --> 00:53:19.440
think they maximum get till five six
foot max tall. Then you've got the

952
00:53:19.519 --> 00:53:23.119
Dueligar. All the Yowie's and all
different tribes around Australia have different ansulms.

953
00:53:23.159 --> 00:53:28.559
The Dueligars one close around my area
and they get to eighth foot tall from

954
00:53:28.559 --> 00:53:31.320
six to eight easily, and then
up north in the tip of Australia in

955
00:53:31.320 --> 00:53:35.599
the Northern Territory. They call them
the Quinkin and they're twelve foot tall.

956
00:53:36.440 --> 00:53:37.880
I don't know if they get bigger
than twelve foot possibly, but there's report

957
00:53:37.960 --> 00:53:42.239
There've been hundreds of reports of all
different types. But growing up as a

958
00:53:42.320 --> 00:53:45.199
kid, you'd hear brownjack a lot. And then some of my indigenous mates

959
00:53:45.239 --> 00:53:46.960
they said their nickname was brown jack
and they never knew why because they weren't

960
00:53:47.039 --> 00:53:50.800
educated in it. So they're like, really, that's what it means,

961
00:53:50.840 --> 00:53:53.440
oh, because brown jack's are supposed
to be the tricksters and they muck around

962
00:53:53.480 --> 00:53:57.400
with you a lot more. Yet
the smaller ones, the Dueligar is just

963
00:53:57.480 --> 00:54:00.599
like a typical bigfoot yowie, the
medium size one, and then the quinking

964
00:54:00.719 --> 00:54:05.119
up north, which are huge apparently
in the rainforests and whatnot. But a

965
00:54:05.199 --> 00:54:08.559
lot of people here and from reports
off her and being told outside of hearing

966
00:54:08.599 --> 00:54:13.079
it on podcasts and stuff, is
a lot of them can look like an

967
00:54:13.119 --> 00:54:15.199
eph They've got big, flat nose
and everything. A lot of people.

968
00:54:15.199 --> 00:54:19.639
I've been told an encounter where he
was driving it to Aim in the morning

969
00:54:19.760 --> 00:54:22.639
end he came over this little ridge
and it was sitting on the side of

970
00:54:22.639 --> 00:54:23.719
the road, and he thought it
was a big, hairy indigenous man,

971
00:54:23.760 --> 00:54:27.519
so it looked more indigenous, so
more human, and it just stood up,

972
00:54:27.559 --> 00:54:30.960
took two steps across the highway after
being around the kangaroo, and it

973
00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:34.360
had its gizzards and everything out,
or it's in it's around in a pile

974
00:54:34.719 --> 00:54:36.800
like it was its dinner table work
out. I'm going to eat this first,

975
00:54:36.840 --> 00:54:38.199
eat that first, And you could
see it try and cover its face

976
00:54:38.280 --> 00:54:43.000
up with branches and stuff in the
bush. So there's all different shapes and

977
00:54:43.079 --> 00:54:45.039
size, and it's the same with
around the world and obviously in America f

978
00:54:45.119 --> 00:54:49.679
those four to six different types of
think where some of them have that protruded

979
00:54:49.760 --> 00:54:52.920
snout or like more of an ape, that little bulge, this huge brow

980
00:54:53.079 --> 00:54:59.880
ridge. So I think they vary
between if they are interbreeding with different clans

981
00:55:00.079 --> 00:55:01.920
or troops however you want to call
them, because no one knows and no

982
00:55:01.960 --> 00:55:06.199
one's an expert. If they are
inbreeding, you'll get the ones how people

983
00:55:06.239 --> 00:55:08.840
have said they look disabled. Well
even with it, you find those footprints

984
00:55:08.840 --> 00:55:13.559
where it's like a club foot or
something like. There's reasons why things in

985
00:55:13.679 --> 00:55:16.159
nature go out because they're inbreeding and
look at you just look at dogs,

986
00:55:16.400 --> 00:55:20.639
pure bred dogs. But wasn't it
so many issues because it's mother's, it's

987
00:55:20.679 --> 00:55:23.320
grandma as well, and it's sister
at the same time, it's just not

988
00:55:23.480 --> 00:55:28.000
meant to be. But that's why
I think there's so many different descriptions of

989
00:55:28.280 --> 00:55:30.280
Even in Australia, people have said
ape or human, more human looking.

990
00:55:30.320 --> 00:55:34.280
The young ones look more ape,
the older ones look more human like neanderthal,

991
00:55:34.719 --> 00:55:37.199
but always covered in hair and sometimes
they're bored on top, but with

992
00:55:37.320 --> 00:55:40.440
a mullet hair at the back like
as you've probably heard, like all different

993
00:55:40.480 --> 00:55:45.719
lengths of hair right over their face, shaggy. But yeah, there's definitely

994
00:55:45.119 --> 00:55:49.320
all different sorts here that people have
seen as well. The dog man thing

995
00:55:49.360 --> 00:55:52.039
it's stuck up because I'm going to
make is actually had an encounter with one.

996
00:55:52.719 --> 00:55:55.079
I've become made with them through the
subject because of it. I don't

997
00:55:55.239 --> 00:56:00.320
think kangaroos from what I've seen as
well, they can't get that big to

998
00:56:00.400 --> 00:56:05.760
where you're going to go. This
thing was a huge were wolf a kangaroo

999
00:56:05.760 --> 00:56:07.719
to me. Maybe it's because I've
just s grown up seeing them all the

1000
00:56:07.760 --> 00:56:12.519
time, being whether they're native,
they will never look like even the big

1001
00:56:12.599 --> 00:56:15.159
reds like the big ones. You
can always tell the front of their face.

1002
00:56:15.280 --> 00:56:16.960
It's not like a dog muzzle.
It's literally like this big lips like

1003
00:56:17.079 --> 00:56:22.039
geos that puff outsort of and you
can just tell even where the eyes are

1004
00:56:22.079 --> 00:56:23.880
positioned. They're more on the front
of the head than like a dog with

1005
00:56:23.960 --> 00:56:28.320
it's on the side sort of thing. I can see if someone hasn't got

1006
00:56:28.320 --> 00:56:31.960
any experience with seeing animals and hiking
and everything, or I haven't really seen

1007
00:56:32.000 --> 00:56:36.760
a photo of kangaroo, and then
maybe I've heard about a dog man encountering

1008
00:56:36.840 --> 00:56:39.280
the area or in general, that
they'd see something out hiking and the fear

1009
00:56:39.280 --> 00:56:42.599
would hit them. I've never seen
that before. What is that? Oh

1010
00:56:42.639 --> 00:56:44.719
my god, and your brain just
runs wild, as we know, and

1011
00:56:44.800 --> 00:56:46.400
you start looking for your brain goes, I need to find a face.

1012
00:56:46.400 --> 00:56:49.719
So what does it look like to
me? Is you had no clue about

1013
00:56:49.760 --> 00:56:52.599
kangaroos. You go, it's a
were wolf. It is sticking straight up.

1014
00:56:52.599 --> 00:56:55.119
That's a were wolf. But with
the size of them and the reports

1015
00:56:55.159 --> 00:56:59.639
that people have reported seeing a dog
man and the size that it was,

1016
00:56:59.719 --> 00:57:02.679
like this was eight foot tall,
shredded with muscle, kangaroos are shredded.

1017
00:57:02.719 --> 00:57:06.800
They've got giant arms and chests.
You don't ever want to fly one,

1018
00:57:07.119 --> 00:57:08.920
especially with the cause on the end. But you can see they've almost got

1019
00:57:09.000 --> 00:57:13.480
like t rex arms. It's not
big arms that people report seeing with a

1020
00:57:13.559 --> 00:57:16.920
dog man. And I think someone
obviously that doesn't believe in the subjects may

1021
00:57:16.960 --> 00:57:21.840
have brought that up initially and it's
spread out like wildfire or But my mate

1022
00:57:21.840 --> 00:57:23.400
who had his encounter, he was
fishing in a kayak in a creek in

1023
00:57:23.480 --> 00:57:28.440
News Wales on a river and he
actually heard this big thing following him with

1024
00:57:28.480 --> 00:57:30.800
each paddle step storm like following him, and he couldn't see it. So

1025
00:57:30.840 --> 00:57:34.440
he turned around when he heard it
right there when he paused, and he

1026
00:57:34.519 --> 00:57:37.519
took a photo with his camera on
the bushes and he didn't see anything at

1027
00:57:37.519 --> 00:57:38.960
the time, but when he went
home or had a look in his car

1028
00:57:39.000 --> 00:57:42.119
when he got out and finished for
the day fishing, because he was like,

1029
00:57:42.159 --> 00:57:45.679
because it screamed at him as well, it full blown crowd at him

1030
00:57:45.719 --> 00:57:47.639
and yelled and he heard this noise
and is what is that you can see

1031
00:57:47.679 --> 00:57:51.559
in the photo? And I've looked
the photo that many times and gone it's

1032
00:57:51.559 --> 00:57:54.199
a black German shepherd head sticking out
of the shrub, this huge black German

1033
00:57:54.239 --> 00:57:58.599
ship there with perfect pointed up.
He is like spot on that looks like

1034
00:57:58.639 --> 00:58:02.079
a typical werewolf. Whatever the hell
that like. That's not paradolia. It's

1035
00:58:02.119 --> 00:58:06.719
one of those rare images that you
can see and go, that's not paradolia.

1036
00:58:06.800 --> 00:58:08.039
That's a dog stick in its head
out of the butch. And they

1037
00:58:08.119 --> 00:58:13.480
actually went back with some other researchers
and look and found the exact spot where

1038
00:58:13.480 --> 00:58:15.920
he took the photo. And it's
like a six foot stand for it to

1039
00:58:16.000 --> 00:58:19.480
be where its shoulders are to be
perking its head out of the tree.

1040
00:58:19.800 --> 00:58:22.679
So whatever it was more than six
foot tall with its head perking out of

1041
00:58:22.679 --> 00:58:25.639
the tree looking at him because there
was nothing to stand on, no stumps

1042
00:58:25.719 --> 00:58:30.000
or rocks or anything. That he's
had that encounter and got the photo and

1043
00:58:30.199 --> 00:58:32.360
you look at it and go,
it's not a kangaroo. It's black.

1044
00:58:32.480 --> 00:58:36.440
He even showed his wife and that's
a black Jaman shepherd. But that's six

1045
00:58:36.519 --> 00:58:38.960
foot there before you even get out
of the shrub. I noticed one person

1046
00:58:39.000 --> 00:58:43.119
who's had an account with it,
and there's been stories around my area up

1047
00:58:43.159 --> 00:58:45.559
at the Glasshouse mountains of they've got
a macadamia farm out there. This keeps

1048
00:58:45.639 --> 00:58:50.519
maceadamia farms, so there's lots of
feral pigs that go in. And one

1049
00:58:50.559 --> 00:58:52.119
of the managers, who I've heard
a story through a friend. You hear

1050
00:58:52.159 --> 00:58:55.079
story, it's like I heard this
blurk once and the manager said to a

1051
00:58:55.119 --> 00:58:58.639
new guy one day, don't go
out at night and if you see the

1052
00:58:58.719 --> 00:59:00.880
big black dog, don't don't near
it. He's like big black dog is.

1053
00:59:01.079 --> 00:59:04.880
Yeah, there's things four foot standing
on all fours like it's huge.

1054
00:59:04.920 --> 00:59:07.880
Don't go near it. So it's
I've been a few reports here of the

1055
00:59:07.960 --> 00:59:09.840
dog man, but it's in New
South Wales or even up in Queensland.

1056
00:59:10.000 --> 00:59:13.480
But being that where you live around
kangaroo, as you look at a kangaroo,

1057
00:59:13.760 --> 00:59:15.079
you're not scaredul and you just don't
go near a big male or something

1058
00:59:15.079 --> 00:59:20.000
because they're front yup. But you
can tell that's kangaroo. That's a bloody

1059
00:59:20.079 --> 00:59:22.519
dog head sticking out the bushes.
That's only got short, mustly arms.

1060
00:59:22.599 --> 00:59:27.920
It's not the long, elong added
arms that people reports seeing. That's my

1061
00:59:28.039 --> 00:59:30.719
opinion on the people that say in
America that dog man's just the kangaroo.

1062
00:59:31.119 --> 00:59:36.400
I think it's clear biologically you can
tell it's kangaroo, even if it's just

1063
00:59:36.480 --> 00:59:38.599
its head sticking out. They don't
get huge the heads like a dog head.

1064
00:59:38.920 --> 00:59:44.000
They're all quite narrow and long.
That's my opinion on that subject.

1065
00:59:44.599 --> 00:59:46.320
We've mentioned it a couple of times. Tell us what your YouTube channel is,

1066
00:59:46.360 --> 00:59:49.440
what can people expect to see when
they get over there, and I

1067
00:59:49.480 --> 00:59:52.320
will certainly link to it in the
show notes for everybody to check it out.

1068
00:59:52.000 --> 00:59:54.639
Yep. So my channel is agalude
yew we are, and I say

1069
00:59:54.800 --> 01:00:00.199
A G A L W D yew
we are, and I research and investigation

1070
01:00:00.360 --> 01:00:04.719
loosely put. And even if I
don't find anything that day, I'll put

1071
01:00:04.800 --> 01:00:07.239
up for my high I can just
to cook up of the area so people

1072
01:00:07.280 --> 01:00:09.840
can see what it's like in that
area where I've had the encounters. I'm

1073
01:00:09.880 --> 01:00:13.199
not just going to post always when
I find things. I think that's a

1074
01:00:13.239 --> 01:00:16.039
bit silly. You should always rationalize
and look at this branch. It's clearly

1075
01:00:16.119 --> 01:00:19.559
been broken by just a little things
like that. This is what bush looks

1076
01:00:19.599 --> 01:00:22.639
like normally, not this over here
that's twisted six foot high at a right

1077
01:00:22.679 --> 01:00:27.199
angle, perfect snap. This is
my footprint. That's their footprint. That's

1078
01:00:27.239 --> 01:00:30.360
completely different. So I do upload
a lot of everything regardless if I find

1079
01:00:30.360 --> 01:00:32.760
anything that day or not. But
I am going out tonight, as I

1080
01:00:32.840 --> 01:00:37.119
said earlier to you, with some
mates, three mates, to scope out

1081
01:00:37.599 --> 01:00:39.960
later into the night on this new
area that we found near the dam where

1082
01:00:39.960 --> 01:00:44.880
I had my encounter, so hopefully
to produce something sounds awesome, Man,

1083
01:00:44.960 --> 01:00:45.880
Jeremy, I have had a blast
talking to you, man, thanks so

1084
01:00:45.960 --> 01:00:49.360
much for coming on the show.
You guys, go over and check out

1085
01:00:49.400 --> 01:00:52.280
his YouTube channel and give them a
subscribe, show them some love. I

1086
01:00:52.400 --> 01:00:54.239
really appreciate you coming on and sharing
your stuff. Man. Thanks for having

1087
01:00:54.239 --> 01:00:57.320
me. Brian, I've been looking
forward to it and just talking about the

1088
01:00:57.360 --> 01:01:00.480
subject more. It's not a hobby
anymore. It's an addiction. Getting answers

1089
01:01:00.519 --> 01:01:07.480
to questions. Mighty. They say, you don't gotta go home, but

1090
01:01:07.719 --> 01:01:16.039
you can't stay. No, I
don't want to be alone. We're all

1091
01:01:16.199 --> 01:01:45.360
out it. Try this job that
time everything, call me, ride back,

1092
01:01:45.679 --> 01:01:52.119
cry back the joy for me,
joy staying right there, come in

1093
01:01:52.360 --> 01:02:25.440
right away side stay states, stand
still, state starts, stay stay Stasie,

1094
01:02:27.199 --> 01:03:00.159
stay in state, state still suss
games, Still states sans gas and

1095
01:03:00.639 --> 01:03:06.639
finsens and used to pas and fences