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Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome

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to you Eye on the Ball here
on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve

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Rivera, he's Jagansaus. Got a
guy sit in today, stay indoors.

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It's a cold wood out really there. It's cold one, it's raining.

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It's but day five of our of
our entire winter. I expect five more

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and then we're done. I think
we have ten days of winter. That's

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since I since I've been I think
we had five a couple of weeks ago,

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so now six, okay, we
got four more left? Okay.

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I hope you're dealing with the war
or cold. Get warm. I welcome

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A nice game last night by the
Wildcats. Yeah you know it. Uh,

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you know they just came out and
just methodically, you know, worked

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them over. I saw that team
three months ago. Yeah, yeah,

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you know, everything working. You
know, you had you know, Ballow

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with an impressive double double, right
twenty two and thirteen, right, you

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know, and then you know,
Tommy talked about it, and I think

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you think you don't know if you
were the one that asked the question in

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the press conference, just talking about
how, you know, winning as handily

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as they did and Caleb Love didn't
have to score twenty five points to do

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it. That was an important question
for me to ask because we had been

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talking about it right right, and
I just wanted to get his He had

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a good quote because I kind of
used the word dude. I don't know

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why I use the word dude,
and he kind of said, yeah,

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it's cool. It's cool because guess
what, at some point along the way,

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he's gonna get shut down, right, somebody's gonna somebody's gonna come along

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and play great defense against him.
And yeah, and you know it it

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uh, you know, he looked
arguably he carried them through this tough time.

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You know, they still lost a
couple of games, but he was

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scoring a bunch of points. He
put to put up thirty six, I

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think against Oregon, you know,
and you're thinking, man, if they

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have to start relying on a guy
to do that, that's gonna be tough,

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right. We didn't. We never
thought about this last year two years

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ago with UH with No No,
with UH with Indiana guy Methron. Right,

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So he because he showed up all
the time. Yeah, they they

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weren't really dependent on him, but
they needed him. But he he he

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and he would show up every game. Sure, sure, but Caleb,

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you know he's gonna you know,
he's gonna shoot right. You just need

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to know if he's gonna score right. Yeah. And and you know,

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Tommy made the comment again last night
that you know, even in thirty six

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point game, in the Organ game, all those points came in the flow.

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He said, they were all on
the flow of the offense. He

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wasn't doing anything, he was just
making shots. And remember he only shot

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what fifteen times and or eighteen times
and scored thirty thirty six points, you

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know, with three throws and three
points and stuff. But you know,

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last night I think he had a
couple of bad shots that he should know

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too. Well. Tommy mentioned that
when he went did that two for one

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right before the half, which you
know, we're like, okay, I

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guess he's going for the two for
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the twenty eight footer you know,
just walked up the court and shot

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a twenty eight footer. But you
know, and I I, you know,

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I was looking when when I kept
seeing his score line, and I

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was looking to see, is he
gonna start forcing things because he's not getting

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his that shot it did look like
but I don't know what that was.

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But otherwise he didn't really know.
He had some assists too. You don't

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want to see, you know,
the other guy that falls into that category.

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I don't know if you notice this
Bradley. He doesn't. He doesn't.

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Once he gets the ball, it's
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doesn't pass it a lot, especially
for him. It's more driving. From

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the break. He goes to the
hall right right, it's like sometimes it's

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out of control a little bit,
yeah right, he needs you don't change

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who you are overnight. But he
does that lot. Notice that right away.

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And I continue to see what he
does, especially on the break if

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there's you and me, and said, he's going get the ball. He's

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going. But but again it looked, as you said, it looked a

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lot like November and December. He
even had fun to say, well,

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you know it was funny because I
I I kind of keep my eye on

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on on Kylin Boswell too. You
know, just see how he's doing,

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you know, pregame when it was
out of warm ups. You know,

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he was smiling a lot. He
was. He looked relaxed, and I

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don't know, you know, I
didn't pay attention enough in the previous games

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to see if he looked the same
way, but you know he he uh

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but you're saying, Buzzwell, yeah, Colin, Buzzwell. And he looked

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relaxed. He was smiling, he
was, he seemed very loose. Before

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the game, he had that what
air ball I think it was, Yeah,

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I missed that, and he kind
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you know, he did a little
mimic of shooting the ball and kind of

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he did one of those. God, if I could just remember names,

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I'd be fine. He just like
he saw on me. I gotta get

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better with this, blah blah blah. But but he's been okay. Yeah,

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it's okay. The guy that you
mentioned to begin outside his babble,

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what A what a? They had
no answer. Where does it start with

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this team? Where does it start? Like? What needs to happen with

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this team? Ballow? Is it? Ballow? Is it? Caleb?

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No? Somebody they know the exactly. They need to move the ball,

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they need to teams need to know
they're going to score inside, they're going

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to score outside, they're gonna drive. Just do all the things, and

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and it and it. I mean
he had he had nine points in the

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game had barely started. So so
you're you're saying that it's not someone specific.

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It's no, I don't think it
is. I think it's everyone to

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the Yeah. And that's it.
That's it because three months ago, three

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months, two months ago, that
was that was happening. Yeah, that

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was happening. It wasn't. And
if you I know, you can't do

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this, Jay, you can probably
do this when you go to the game

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because you're too busy doing the stat
stuff. You can't look up count how

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many passes start the offense. Yeah, it's it's a one it's a one

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shot thing or a one past thing, where before it is at least four.

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Yeah, you know last that you
saw some of that. Yeah,

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no, they did. And and
what is it's you know, you look,

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Ballo got the ball under the basket. He and he scored and fished

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and then he finished and that's what
that's what it was. And they were

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scoring from wherever, you know,
I mean, you know, Keisha Johnson

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was scoring, and you know,
Boswell was handing out assists, and he

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had a you know, he had
a couple of early baskets, and it

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just you got a sense pretty quickly
that they were in a rhythm and that

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Cal had no shot. This is
why this team has the potential to make

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a deep run because in the past, previous teams that have early exits in

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March, they're too centric on one
player. And we've seen that in the

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past, right, right, So
this team, if they moved the ball,

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I mean, we've seen they have
several guys that can go out,

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go into double figures. Well,
two things scare me, and I told

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someone last night again after seeing this
in November, is Babo Street throws.

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You don't know what you're gonna get. Whether he's improved or not, I

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don't know, but you don't I
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And and Caleb going on on his
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Other than that, I'm okay.
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you know, Love did not you
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didn't do that last night. And
he wasn't getting a bunch of points.

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But you know, even I want
you know, I was watching him play

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defense, like, because that's where
you that's where you see it, right.

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If they're not into, if they're
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that their their game isn't there.
They're not getting the ball and they're not

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scoring whatever. A lot of times
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the defensive end and they don't work
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He was playing some really hard defense
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it looked like it was supposed to
look. I'm gonna be interested to

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see how it looks on Sunday,
you know, when Stanford comes in,

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you know, and I think they're
as as uh. I think, you

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know, Brian Jeffery said on the
Plus Games, I said, I think

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they'll I think Stanford will have their
attention on oh yeah, oh yeah.

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I'm curious to see what the spread
is gonna because he was twelve over there

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and they won by whatever it was
eighteen. I can't remember what it was.

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I was gonna ask you guys something
I can't rem Maurial come to me.

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It'll come to me. But let's
move on. But but you know

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it was just they did what what
you would want them to do. Last

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Okay, I know because you were
with us yesterday in the studio. I

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talked about the depth of the team. Right there. He goes eight comfortably,

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and we saw Philippe and we saw
Mosco. Morosco's okay, So we

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know without a doubt. In a
month or so, he's going with a

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because he could have played those two
dudes longer. Yeah, he's going with

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eight. But if he needs those
two guys, he'll use them, he'll,

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I think. But I don't think
he's gonna want to go. No,

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he's not gonna want He hopes he
doesn't need him, But I think

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he thinks they're there, and I
think he'll try and get him, get

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him some more playing time. He
made a commentary that last night that he

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wished he had played them a little
bit more. That's you've said that a

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couple of times. Yeah. I
don't know if that's true. I don't

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don't know if that's true, because
he's he had plenty of chances to play

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there. Yeah, and he didn't. Well, I know, but they

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were barely covering when they put him
in. But they came in and there

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was still a little over four minutes
left in the in the game, and

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I'm like, if you if you're
get if you're if you're if you gave

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the nineteen points, you're you're going, oh no, because you know,

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because it was like I think it
was like twenty one or twenty two at

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the time. Yeah, but they
you know, they do and they again

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and you know what those guys you
see, these guys come in, whether

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they're even the far into the bench, you know, the last couple of

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guys that that come in, they
get in there and they play hard and

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they play defense. So it's not
so much that you got to score some

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more, you know, if you're
trying to do you got to keep the

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other guys from sporting, and they
get a good job of that. Up

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you know, ended up uh,
you know, winning handily and not you

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know, I think, but they
went by twenty twenty seven, so you

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know, it was it was plenty
and there was room for for anybody who

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gave the nineteen points. Although I
think you and I said I wouldn't,

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I wouldn't go About three minutes into
the game, I turned to shear and

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it says, you know they're gonna
cover yeah, it was it was twelve

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immediately. Yeah, it was like
you know, and he says, yeah,

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yeah, and they did and they
did, and then they got up

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there and they just you know,
they got up twenty at the half.

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I know they cut it to fifteen
at one point, but you just thought,

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you know, you know, they're
just gonna keep scoring and they and

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they handled it real well. I
thought they played Cal Roll. I will

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say that Cal's a little thin on
talent. Yeah, yeah, I couldn't

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you know, watching the game,
I couldn't even tell who was their best

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player. No, you're right,
right, I mean, there wasn't a

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guy that you thought, Okay,
that's the best player. He's the guy.

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It's just like they all kind of
look the same, you know,

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from a you know, skills wise
that you're you're you know, you gotta

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wonder what, you know, what
Mark Madson is doing recruiting wise and stuff

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like that. Right, well,
it's gonna be Remember last year they pat

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real bad, real bad. So
it's a long way. This is the

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jet Fish first year. So I
got a surprise for you. Who's who's

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your gifts? We got Jake Fisher
coming on three point fifteen. We'll uh,

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you know, just kick some things
around it. You know, Jake

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sponsored the show, and we'd like
to get him on here and pick his

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brain as a as a former college
athlete, who can you know, kind

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of tell us what's what and he
follows recruiting and all that interweb stuff,

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right, and then I'll got a
surprice. The guy who's trying to reach

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that didn't return the calls said he
can do it. So Melbok will be

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on a great All right, good, we'll talk to him. Man,

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he did the game last week.
We'll see what he thought about what he

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saw that. What if anybody saw
the game because you oh yeah, yeah,

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could you chip up with it?
And and it didn't. And then

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well there's eight minutes of the game
that we are hoping we got right from

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his stats standpoint, because we have
the we have the game on a on

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an iPad there and there's a delay
on it, so we use it to

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check stuff that we put in that
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So we were going without a net
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but it's it was kind of or
was it slow enough for the Yeah we

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did Okay, I mean I'm gonna
sit in here thinking that we messed anything

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up. It's just that we you
know, we use it. I'd say

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probably three or four calls per game. You know. We we we enter

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something or you know, we put
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and check to make sure we got
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block. Okay, there was a
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a sequence and it looked short,
but we couldn't tell if it was blocked,

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and then you could tell from the
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a block there. So you know, somebody got a block who wasn't otherwise

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going to get a block shot.
And so we we use it for stuff

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like that, you know, or
who got the assist because well, you

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know, Mark Manson's a big dude, Okay, so he stands in front

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of us. He's why the only
the only, the only pack twelve coaches

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got a bigger but wider butt than
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He's that dude's why. And so
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a lot and we're all, you
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if you don't have the angle on
an assist or whatever, it's hard to

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hard to see, so we used
that and so, yes, we were.

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We were a little did you so
you listened to the press converce did

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on the way, and so I
continue to ask, do you do you

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get a sense that he's not just
to Bruce just his tone is a little

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bit surly, more surly and more
direct. He he doesn't let guys finish

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questions a lot. He never he
never has h you know, he feels

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like he knows the questions. So
here's your answer, and he gets to

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it. I he didn't sound surly
or anything like that. He's just one

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of the questions. He kind of
was very differ well, he went he

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poked at Bruce against and I think
this was the press conference you missed,

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Yeah, yea, yeah, which
was funny because I remember seeing that,

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but I didn't go to the press
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they have a relationship. Yeah,
Bruce gets on. I don't think.

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I don't think Tommy dislikes the media, No, I think I think I

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think it's more of a he pokes. He has I think he has fun.

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He doesn't particularly like doing them,
but he does understand that he's got

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it. Sure, of course,
of course this isn't that contract. Yeah,

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this is at he's I think he, I think he's fine. Okay,

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we gotta go, gotta go for
sure. Jake. Yeah, Jake

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Fisher coming up at about uh in
about five minutes. So stick around.

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We'll just we'll just shoot some more
stuff because you know Jake and you know

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football season's over, so we can't
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Steve Rivera and Jake and Salmas.
This is I on the ball on Fox

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Sports fourteenth the Hey, welcome back
to joining the ball. Herero Fox Sports

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fourteen fifty M. Steve, he's
Jake got to sit with us. Now

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we have our guy, Jake Fisher. When are you a football player and

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good sponsor for us? Rick?
Rick? Jake? How are you?

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I'm doing well? Rick doing well
as well? Good? Good? He

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gets a challenge in here every day. Yes, every day you're headed in

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our direction. Hey, what's going
on? What's going on with you?

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And how about that basketball team last
night? Do you do you have any

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how can I say this? Are
you okay with their inconsistency? I'm sure

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you're not. No, But I
mean, shoot, last year we have

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the same kind of inconsistencies. The
only difference this year is we can kind

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of sit back and let our defense
keep us in games for long stretches when

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we can't score, and over the
last two games it looked like coach Tommy

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got into them a little bit.
And hopefully they're listening because we're getting closer

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to, you know, the end
of the conference play. It's a tie,

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or it was a tie at least
at the top between three different teams

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and the standing. So hopefully we
can pull away and we have to keep

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playing like we have the last couple
of weeks. You know, I don't.

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I mean, Arizona's still seen as
you know, a top team in

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the country. I don't think there's
anybody out there who thinks that despite the

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fact that you know, they were
you know, last week they were in

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third place in the league, that
anybody thinks that they're not still going to

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win this league. But you know, when you're that team, how do

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you keep your focus on that?
You know, how do you need not

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sit there and relax and say,
Okay, we're still good enough, We're

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just going to do this. I
mean, you have to keep working at

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it. Yeah, of course you
have to. And you know, a

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lot of it falls on the older
players on the team. You know,

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you've got four seniors that start,
you know, a couple that have been

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with their zone over the last couple
of years with a lot of six deeth

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uh. And then we've had two
people you know that have transferred here that

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have played in the Final four over
the last couple of years. So it

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just I think a lot of it, you know, falls back on them.

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And you can see it over the
last two games when we went to

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Oregon, Caleb Love, you know, a senior, did really well,

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and then last night follow a senior
did really well. And I think over

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the last couple of games, Key
Shaw's played awesome. And you know Pella

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he hasn't been a shooting as well, but I mean he's kind of that

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glue guy and the Swiss army knife
that can basically on a bad night still

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play really good defense and still you
know, lead the team and assist and

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you know, kind of pick you
up part in those ways. But I

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think it just falls upon the leadership, and I think over the last couple

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of games, I think they've shown
them that they're willing to step it up

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a notch and play better. Yeah, question, how hard do you think

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it is for a guy like Caleb
Love, He's a senior you know,

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he's been somewhere else, so he's
really he's here for a year, so

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he's a short timer to can't is
it possible or can he have a leadership

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role or does he have to kind
of fit in with everything else and you

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know, and then just do what
he does. I mean, how tough

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is that? Well, you know, it's kind of it could be two

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different things. Number one, you
know, he might not be the guy

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that speaks up all the time.
He might just be the guy that you

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know, might have to put the
team on his shoulders. He's show him

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that he is who he is.
You know. I think that that's what

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he's doing. I think after a
few games where we may have fallen out

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of it if it wasn't for him, I think it kind of opened up

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the eyes who said, Okay,
this is the Caleb Love of old.

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This isn't who we thought or who
we heard about last year. So I

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think he just is going to let
us play do the talking. And a

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couple of these games, like I
said, when we went through offensive roles

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where nobody else played, well,
he's either helped us win or kept us

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in it. So I think that's
just kind of his leadership role. Yeah,

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just just by playing and you know, being dependable, I guess right,

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yeah, and just hitting big shot
after big shot. I mean,

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he's had a couple of games where
he hasn't really shot the ball very well

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when you look back at you know, how many shots he made versus how

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many he took, but it seemed
like every damn time he took the damn

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shot, it went in, you
know. I mean, like that Fau

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game, you know, and just
a couple other big games where he was

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just hitting those shots and you look
at the shots chart and you're like,

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wow, he didn't play that well, but it seemed like every time we

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needed a bucket, he was there
to get it. Are there any I

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mentioned my concerns earlier before you came
on. Are there any concerns in your

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eyes as we head closer to the
tournament. Well, it's just a lack

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of motive. Two things. Lack
of motivation. You know, like I

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said, you got too many guys
that are too good to be playing the

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way that they played. You know, at a couple of those games,

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he was the order to state game, the Stanford game, et cetera,

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et cetera. Because I mean Obviously, we've seen against some of the best

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teams in the country that you know, like a Wisconsin we could blow him

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out, or Purdue we play really
lack of daisical. You know. The

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first it seemed like twenty five minutes, and then we he got back within

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four and then we just came up
short. You know, they hit a

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few free throws there to put the
game out of reach. And then the

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other one is just the consistent play
of Colin Boswell, you know, I

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mean, like you put in Jaden
Bradley. He might only score six or

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seven points, but it just seems
like sometimes that offense runs better with him,

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and he plays like a dog on
defense and just makes all those plays.

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But then you have those games where
Colin Boswell actually shoots the ball.

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Well, you look up and he's
got seventeen points, four or five assists,

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and he plays really really well on
defense. So if we can get

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a consistent effort out of you know, the other guys, and then we

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can get Boswell playing, you know, I mean some of these guys,

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like on the radio, you know, you listen to him, and a

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lot of these folks say, we
don't really need him to play, like

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00:25:42.519 --> 00:25:47.359
all conference, just you know,
just consistent, right, and if he

409
00:25:47.440 --> 00:25:49.759
plays well on the defensive end and
he can hit some timely shots, I

410
00:25:49.759 --> 00:25:52.640
don't need him to be a fifteen
point you know point a night score.

411
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All he's got to do is run
the offense, play like a dog on

412
00:25:56.000 --> 00:25:59.960
defense like he can, and just
be a little bit more consistent from them.

413
00:26:00.359 --> 00:26:02.880
This is just a weird question I'm
going to ask you. So we

414
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see what we see on basketball in
basketball, and we could see in baseball

415
00:26:07.519 --> 00:26:12.200
hitting wise, but do do football
players going slumps? And can you see

416
00:26:12.200 --> 00:26:15.880
that? Could you see like as
a linebacker, did you ever get in

417
00:26:15.880 --> 00:26:22.000
the slump? Yeah? I mean
it's more about being in the right spot,

418
00:26:22.160 --> 00:26:25.920
you know. I mean like basketball, you know, you look like

419
00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:29.200
you're not playing well if you miss
a bunch of shots right. In football,

420
00:26:29.240 --> 00:26:32.000
you might only you know, like
take it from you know, a

421
00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:36.039
nose guards standpoint right Like Bill Bill
Norton this last year. He didn't have

422
00:26:36.160 --> 00:26:40.000
all the crazy accolades. He didn't
have all the tackles, the TFLs and

423
00:26:40.039 --> 00:26:41.960
stuff like that, so it might
look like he didn't make a big difference,

424
00:26:42.279 --> 00:26:45.880
but he was keeping guys off of
the linebackers so I think the way

425
00:26:45.920 --> 00:26:49.759
to tell if a linebacker is not
playing well is if they're just missing tackles

426
00:26:49.759 --> 00:26:53.240
and if they're out you know,
if they're just out of position. So

427
00:26:53.319 --> 00:26:59.079
that's a no? Is that a
yes? Oh yeah, absolutely, you

428
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watched it. That's the one thing
that sucks about playing, you know,

429
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on a collegiate level is you know, where are the guys supposed to fit

430
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and if you see him go to
the wrong the wrong hole, it's kind

431
00:27:07.839 --> 00:27:10.759
of hard to watch, yeah,
because we're not we're not expecting what to

432
00:27:10.759 --> 00:27:12.359
do. We don't know what to
see. I mean, you guys on

433
00:27:12.440 --> 00:27:17.359
films know exactly what you're seeing.
Oh yeah, I mean it was it

434
00:27:17.400 --> 00:27:19.039
was film religiously, so when you
watch it, it's hard to watch it

435
00:27:19.039 --> 00:27:25.880
as a fan anymore. Wow.
Okay, all right, so you get

436
00:27:25.920 --> 00:27:27.319
you're getting too this time of year
where you know, we know that for

437
00:27:27.319 --> 00:27:30.599
Arizona it's all about you know,
okay, we're going to decide how good

438
00:27:30.640 --> 00:27:34.319
you were by how you doing the
in the NCAA tournament. But you know,

439
00:27:34.599 --> 00:27:38.000
getting back to this whole leadership aspect, you know, do seniors just

440
00:27:38.720 --> 00:27:42.240
naturally gravitate to like okay, this
is my last year, So everybody get

441
00:27:42.279 --> 00:27:47.799
your stuff together or you know how
how you know, where do you get

442
00:27:47.799 --> 00:27:49.759
that? As you say, you
need motivation, you need leadership, you

443
00:27:49.799 --> 00:27:52.440
need you know, you need to
be ready to play, you know,

444
00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:56.279
game in and game out. It
you know where does it? Where does

445
00:27:56.319 --> 00:28:00.000
that need to come from? Well, it depends who it is. I

446
00:28:00.039 --> 00:28:03.480
mean the seniors, they've all been
to the tournament. A couple of those

447
00:28:03.480 --> 00:28:07.079
guys have been to a Final four
and the other two seniors have been to

448
00:28:07.119 --> 00:28:10.599
a Sweet sixteen. So those guys
kind of know how to prepare him what

449
00:28:10.880 --> 00:28:12.440
to be expected of them. So
they're just gonna go out and they're going

450
00:28:12.480 --> 00:28:15.720
to play their tails off. When
it comes to the freshman, you know,

451
00:28:17.279 --> 00:28:19.680
you know, imagine like or a
sophomore for example, like James Bradley

452
00:28:19.799 --> 00:28:23.599
or Colin Boswell. You want to
send those guys out right, So you're

453
00:28:23.640 --> 00:28:26.000
not going to be doing anything stupid. You're going to be looking at the

454
00:28:26.039 --> 00:28:29.319
film. You're going to be playing
as hard as you can. You're not

455
00:28:29.359 --> 00:28:32.240
going to take any plays off on
defense. And then you have a guy

456
00:28:32.279 --> 00:28:34.519
like Krevas, who you know,
if Baba plays like he did last night,

457
00:28:34.680 --> 00:28:40.279
if if MAUI follow shows up like
he did last night previous. All

458
00:28:40.319 --> 00:28:44.160
you've got to do is give him
sells and play as hard as he possibly

459
00:28:44.200 --> 00:28:47.359
can, you know. And so
when it comes down to it, I

460
00:28:47.400 --> 00:28:49.519
think all those guys, you don't
have to worry about kJ if he's sitting

461
00:28:49.519 --> 00:28:52.680
his outside shot like he's money.
But when it comes down to it,

462
00:28:52.720 --> 00:28:56.000
you know, he's a hustle guy. So the younger guys are going to

463
00:28:56.039 --> 00:28:59.200
want to send these guys out right, and then the older guys know what

464
00:28:59.240 --> 00:29:00.960
to expect, are just getting ready
to kind of put it in a different

465
00:29:02.000 --> 00:29:07.240
gear. Okay, yeah, I
hear that. I mean, and again,

466
00:29:07.440 --> 00:29:11.359
you know, you're you're everybody's I
think I think what's happened over the

467
00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:15.839
last couple of weeks is that the
Arizona fans have gotten nervous. We thought

468
00:29:15.880 --> 00:29:18.279
they were really good, We didn't
think they were gonna lose any games,

469
00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:19.759
and now, you know, I
think fans have gotten nervous, and it's

470
00:29:19.799 --> 00:29:22.920
like, what the hell? And
and you're you're you're looking for chinks in

471
00:29:22.960 --> 00:29:26.680
the armor, and there's there's been
a few of them this uh, these

472
00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:30.200
last few weeks. I think it
kind of showed the older guys that even

473
00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:36.359
though you have that much talent,
you can lose to anybody. Even then

474
00:29:36.799 --> 00:29:41.240
even the non tournament teams, because
I mean, college basketball has become way

475
00:29:41.279 --> 00:29:44.119
different because of the transfer portal you
have. You know, you have these

476
00:29:44.160 --> 00:29:48.039
really good guys on these small teams
that you don't really know about per se

477
00:29:48.519 --> 00:29:52.480
that went to uh, you know, a cow or went to a Stanford

478
00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:55.400
or a Washington State, where all
of a sudden, you have a couple

479
00:29:55.440 --> 00:29:57.920
of those guys that, like I
said, maybe you don't know or maybe

480
00:29:57.920 --> 00:30:00.319
you just you know, you think
that they played really well because they're from

481
00:30:00.359 --> 00:30:03.279
a smaller school, and then they
punch in the mouth. Yeah, so

482
00:30:03.759 --> 00:30:07.400
you know, it's just it's a
completely different landscape. And I think,

483
00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:10.839
if anything, is just gonna be
one of those, you know, coaching

484
00:30:10.839 --> 00:30:12.319
tools that coach Tom is gonna be
able to look back on and say,

485
00:30:12.480 --> 00:30:15.039
if you guys think that you're gonna
get out of the first round easy,

486
00:30:15.359 --> 00:30:19.559
you guys lost to Oregon State,
you know what I mean? So uh,

487
00:30:19.599 --> 00:30:22.400
like I said, I think the
guys will wake up. Were you

488
00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:26.839
a revenge guy when you played well? I mean you always have that in

489
00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:29.640
the back of your mind, but
you can't let that kind of consume you

490
00:30:29.759 --> 00:30:33.319
and get out of position and make
you know, brownhead and plays. You

491
00:30:33.400 --> 00:30:36.039
know, I'm just wondering, what's
the Stafford game coming up? Right?

492
00:30:36.079 --> 00:30:40.240
And they they obliterated you know,
Arizona up there. You know how much

493
00:30:40.279 --> 00:30:41.920
of you know getting up for that
game? Mean? You know, do

494
00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:45.559
you you go into like I just
want to kick their assets because they kick

495
00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:48.759
mine. I think I don't think
Tommy's gonna let them kind of get in

496
00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:52.480
the revenge mindset. It's just listen, you guys know you can beat anybody.

497
00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:55.799
You guys know you can lose to
anybody. So as long as we

498
00:30:55.839 --> 00:30:57.880
play our game better than they play
there, we're gonna win. But you

499
00:30:57.920 --> 00:31:00.480
know, you can't get out of
store and you can't you know, you

500
00:31:00.519 --> 00:31:03.440
can't be turning the ball over and
letting them hit every damn three that they

501
00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:07.599
take. We didn't touch you last
week. But it's been two weeks.

502
00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:11.319
There's been some news, I guess
out of the football program. Any thoughts

503
00:31:11.319 --> 00:31:17.480
on what's going on. Some players
staying, some players going, well,

504
00:31:17.480 --> 00:31:19.000
we knew that was going to happen. I think we were just all nervous

505
00:31:19.079 --> 00:31:22.920
because we thought that it was going
to be more leaving and following coach Fish

506
00:31:23.000 --> 00:31:27.640
than what has actually happened. So
I'm happy with all the returners. Like

507
00:31:27.680 --> 00:31:32.119
I said, that offensive line is
going to be solid as hell. Again,

508
00:31:32.160 --> 00:31:34.400
I think you have three legitimate NFL
players that are going to be starting.

509
00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:37.880
You know, you have obviously a
great receiving corps. A lot of

510
00:31:37.920 --> 00:31:41.200
young guys are gonna have to step
up, but I think they're good enough

511
00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:44.440
to do it. You know,
I think we need maybe a transfer running

512
00:31:44.440 --> 00:31:47.759
back, you know, a little
bit of an older guy, maybe a

513
00:31:47.799 --> 00:31:52.039
bigger guy, because we lost our
you know, our thunder guys right defensive

514
00:31:52.079 --> 00:31:56.240
line on the interior still work to
be awesome. You know, I hear

515
00:31:56.279 --> 00:31:57.599
we got a couple of guys coming
in from San Jose State. They're going

516
00:31:57.640 --> 00:32:01.119
to be fine as well, hopefully
a couple. I know. Duce Davis

517
00:32:01.200 --> 00:32:04.799
left and you know, I hope
he does well. I've heard nothing but

518
00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:07.440
great things about him and his family, being a good kid and everything like

519
00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:10.440
that. You know, hopefully Ward
comes back, who knows, But I

520
00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:15.079
think on the defensive side, maybe
a good bookend, another linebacker to run

521
00:32:15.480 --> 00:32:20.200
you know with Manu, and then
you know, hopefully we get to Cario

522
00:32:20.279 --> 00:32:22.920
back and we have a guy that
we can plug in over at the corner.

523
00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:27.720
But I've heard nothing but good things. Like I said, every time

524
00:32:27.759 --> 00:32:30.880
he's talked to somebody that's close to
the program. The way to Gates.

525
00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:32.759
You know, if these guys are
going to be legit or not is you

526
00:32:32.759 --> 00:32:37.240
know, are they hungry recruiters.
That's one of the biggest things in college

527
00:32:37.240 --> 00:32:40.480
fallity plea is the life flood.
And I think that they've been working their

528
00:32:40.480 --> 00:32:44.359
tails off, so I'm happy about
it. Or certainly seeing them all over

529
00:32:44.400 --> 00:32:46.079
the place. You know, we
see him on social media that they're at

530
00:32:46.079 --> 00:32:50.279
this high school, that high school, the other high school. They're making

531
00:32:50.319 --> 00:32:54.519
offers out there. So you know, you just wonder because I mean,

532
00:32:54.599 --> 00:32:59.160
look, Jedfish did a great job
in terms of getting players here. He

533
00:32:59.240 --> 00:33:02.119
got some great player here, and
you know, you wonder if that's it's

534
00:33:02.200 --> 00:33:07.160
if they're going to be able to
continue at that level, if they if

535
00:33:07.160 --> 00:33:10.920
they have a good season. I
don't see a reason why that momentum won't

536
00:33:10.960 --> 00:33:15.000
continue to bring good players here to
the Desert. Yeah, I mean,

537
00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:17.440
there's given you a lot of guys
that want to play on that defense,

538
00:33:17.480 --> 00:33:20.640
a lot of guys that want to
play on that offense as long as you're

539
00:33:20.680 --> 00:33:22.759
scoring points and you have and like
I said, I mean, you guys,

540
00:33:23.000 --> 00:33:25.680
you're going to have the best linebacker, in my opinion, in the

541
00:33:25.839 --> 00:33:30.400
entire Big Twelve coming back next year. I mean, I don't see a

542
00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:34.599
reason why somebody that wouldn't want to
come from another program and he knows that

543
00:33:34.640 --> 00:33:38.240
he's legit wanting to pair up with
a Jacob Mono. So I mean,

544
00:33:38.279 --> 00:33:40.680
we've got all our safety back.
Like I said, I mean, we

545
00:33:40.720 --> 00:33:44.200
have a lot to work with.
So if we have a good first year

546
00:33:44.240 --> 00:33:46.519
and we can plug a couple of
holes and you know, go ball out,

547
00:33:46.599 --> 00:33:49.319
you know, maybe put up a
lot of points, like I think

548
00:33:49.359 --> 00:33:52.160
we're going to. I don't see
a reason why the staff, who it

549
00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:54.279
seems like they're going to go out
and really recruit their butts off, wouldn't

550
00:33:54.279 --> 00:33:58.119
be able to bring in some players
that really want to play, right,

551
00:33:58.279 --> 00:34:00.680
you know, totally right, totally
right. Well, you want to pitch

552
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to fifty. Hey, welcome back
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fifty. I'm Steve. He's Jay
that sit with us. We have about

599
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fifteen minutes. My guy in the
clock did not put the clock up,

600
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so we can't have a two minute
warning. But hey, if you want

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to call, please do I five
to go, four, one, six,

602
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seventy four, forty. Let's know
what you thought about last night's game

603
00:37:47.760 --> 00:37:53.599
or anything else that's on your mind. Yeah, you know, and really

604
00:37:53.719 --> 00:37:55.679
that a whole lot more to say, just that they you know, they

605
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came out, they took care of
business. Uh it cal was never in

606
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the game. Was it like ninety
two right out of the box or something

607
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like that and twinty to something.
So let's also remember, and I say

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this all the time, it was
a one hundred thousand dollars horse against a

609
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twenty five thousand dollars horse. Well, I know, you got to kind

610
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of put it in perspective. What
does it do? They played well.

611
00:38:20.079 --> 00:38:22.039
It's beat alternative around playing well.
I'm not playing well. They did play

612
00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:25.920
well. And and again there was
never I mean there wasn't. There wasn't

613
00:38:25.920 --> 00:38:29.760
a moment in the game that you
thought, Okay, they're in some kind

614
00:38:29.800 --> 00:38:32.760
of trouble. Ever, and and
and that's what they're supposed to do,

615
00:38:34.119 --> 00:38:39.239
right against against Cal and they did. And uh, you know, the

616
00:38:40.679 --> 00:38:45.559
bench got some time in as well. I think a big key to it,

617
00:38:45.679 --> 00:38:49.159
as as we were saying earlier,
was one that how well Ballot played,

618
00:38:49.679 --> 00:38:53.480
and then two that again as we
said, they didn't really need Caleb

619
00:38:53.519 --> 00:38:57.119
Love to go off in in order
to do what they did. I mean,

620
00:38:57.159 --> 00:39:00.199
it was coming from everywhere, right, Still a lot of work to

621
00:39:00.199 --> 00:39:05.199
do. There's a big weekend in
basketball. You saw that Duke plays North

622
00:39:05.199 --> 00:39:07.800
Carolina. Yeah, there's a whole
bunch of games Tennessee today, tomorrow,

623
00:39:07.840 --> 00:39:10.880
tomorrow, tomorrow, the week there's
a whole bunch of games games tomorrow.

624
00:39:10.920 --> 00:39:16.320
They somebody on a on a talk
show is reeling off all the great games,

625
00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:19.880
and I was waiting to say,
they're not gonna say, Arizona standards,

626
00:39:21.079 --> 00:39:22.519
that's not a great game. In
fact, the West is just so

627
00:39:22.639 --> 00:39:27.519
dry, even in Zaga, who
has the ranked right now. They might

628
00:39:27.559 --> 00:39:30.840
if they are there twenty four twenty. They're pretty low there are ye,

629
00:39:30.480 --> 00:39:34.800
So there's really nobody if U C. L A And Arizona are not anchoring

630
00:39:34.840 --> 00:39:37.840
the West. Yeah, and Gonzaga, now there's nobody in the West,

631
00:39:37.920 --> 00:39:40.199
you know. And then I watched
I didn't watch. I caught the tail

632
00:39:40.280 --> 00:39:45.000
end on the radio of a s
U blowing the lead. Yeah, I

633
00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:47.320
watched it there, you know,
I thought, are they remember I was

634
00:39:47.320 --> 00:39:51.719
saying that, well, maybe she's
good. Well they're not. They were

635
00:39:51.719 --> 00:39:54.039
four and oh in the league.
Neither're four and five? Yeah or five

636
00:39:54.079 --> 00:39:58.280
and four. They've they've lost,
they've lost four of their last five.

637
00:39:58.519 --> 00:40:01.079
Uh. You you've gone through the
U Conference game, you've got through the

638
00:40:01.159 --> 00:40:07.039
league. Who's good there? I
still think Organ's pretty good. Yeah,

639
00:40:07.039 --> 00:40:08.360
but they're but they're way low in
the Ken Palm ratings. They're like,

640
00:40:08.400 --> 00:40:13.079
you know, yeah, eighty something. I thought Colorado coming into the year,

641
00:40:13.840 --> 00:40:16.360
I thought Colorado was going to make
a bigger jump. But yeah,

642
00:40:16.440 --> 00:40:20.360
we'll see. We'll see next week. Yeah, it's going to be in

643
00:40:20.480 --> 00:40:25.320
Colorado. So always stuff there.
You see the tweet from Bruce. But

644
00:40:25.480 --> 00:40:31.800
our guy Machalla what's his name,
the toughest place to play in the country

645
00:40:32.639 --> 00:40:37.599
Utah. Oh, yeah, the
analytics guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

646
00:40:37.639 --> 00:40:42.119
he's one of our great guests.
And who's going to be coming to

647
00:40:42.000 --> 00:40:45.320
the town a big game. Boomers
should be calling us. He's coming here

648
00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:49.039
for the game Organ game. I
think one of those games. Yeah,

649
00:40:49.400 --> 00:40:52.239
uh, but yeah, Utah is
and rightly so it's a tough place to

650
00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:55.599
go and play. So we'll see
what happens. Well, both these games

651
00:40:55.599 --> 00:40:59.920
going up. But yeah again they
gotta go take care business against Damp,

652
00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:04.320
which I really think they will.
I wish that game wasn't Sunday night.

653
00:41:04.320 --> 00:41:07.079
I wish it was Sunday afternoon.
Yeah, you know, I don't like

654
00:41:07.119 --> 00:41:10.320
getting home and you know, going
back to going to sleep for Monday.

655
00:41:10.519 --> 00:41:15.719
You know, eight o'clock. Man, by the time it's getting to be

656
00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:21.440
my bedtime. You well, Steve, you know, with the work I

657
00:41:21.480 --> 00:41:23.840
do with these games, there's a
wine down period for me. No,

658
00:41:23.960 --> 00:41:27.400
dude, I get it, really
is. I get it. It's like

659
00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:30.039
the writing. We just sit there
in an hour and then you get home.

660
00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:34.039
You have to kind of like decompressed, right right. I you know,

661
00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:37.559
I saw one fifteen in the morning
last night. Really yeah, why

662
00:41:37.880 --> 00:41:42.639
it was already it was all you
were home by nine, I'm assuming yeah,

663
00:41:42.760 --> 00:41:45.559
nine fifteen. I don't know.
It just I puttered around, make

664
00:41:45.719 --> 00:41:49.960
rank rank keep you up. No, but it was only starting to rain

665
00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:52.239
when I when I fell asleep.
Two you need a toddy or two.

666
00:41:52.519 --> 00:41:57.719
I don't do time yeah, no, I you just did. I don't

667
00:41:57.719 --> 00:42:01.079
know that's it just did just but
you know, it was a fun game

668
00:42:01.079 --> 00:42:05.639
to work. It wasn't chaotic.
We you know, we have we do

669
00:42:05.719 --> 00:42:09.320
have chaotic games that are just crazy
crazy to work. But it was kind

670
00:42:09.320 --> 00:42:12.880
of there was a rhythm to the
game. It seemed like, yeah,

671
00:42:13.199 --> 00:42:16.039
it really was. Yeah, it
wasn't. It was fine. And nobody

672
00:42:16.039 --> 00:42:22.079
on the Facebook was completing about the
reps because they were winning. Because they're

673
00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:25.159
winning. Well, oh, okay, little things right when you when stuff

674
00:42:25.199 --> 00:42:29.559
that you you was a fan or
even a report, don't think about that

675
00:42:29.639 --> 00:42:32.320
last time out, that TV timeout, okay, because that they hadn't had

676
00:42:32.880 --> 00:42:37.480
You know, there's always an extra
TV timeout in the second half, right,

677
00:42:37.599 --> 00:42:42.639
okay, the first dead ball that
does not lead to a regular TV

678
00:42:42.840 --> 00:42:45.679
an under sixteen and under drug.
They hadn't taken it. And we were

679
00:42:45.679 --> 00:42:50.360
we were less than two minutes left
in the game, and we're sitting in

680
00:42:50.400 --> 00:42:52.920
a room. Don't let the ball
got about. Don't let the ball got

681
00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:57.960
about. Let's not have it,
and and and Mark Mattson called a time

682
00:42:58.000 --> 00:43:01.679
out to get his subs in in
well, that led to three minute TV

683
00:43:01.800 --> 00:43:05.559
time out there at the end of
the game. We were very upset by

684
00:43:05.559 --> 00:43:07.639
that. You already be in your
car, Yeah, we were. We

685
00:43:07.639 --> 00:43:09.360
were like so mad. The crowds
started leaving early too. I mean,

686
00:43:09.440 --> 00:43:14.239
come on, there was really no
highlights or anything like that. So yeah,

687
00:43:14.360 --> 00:43:16.760
we were a little upset by that. Little things like that, that

688
00:43:16.760 --> 00:43:22.199
that that you don't think about.
But so, what's the first thing you

689
00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:25.920
think about when you see Mark Madison
that he played at Stanford? But I

690
00:43:25.960 --> 00:43:29.280
don't think of a specific game.
So I got a couple of things.

691
00:43:29.280 --> 00:43:31.920
So Bruce and I were in the
press room, were sitting down waiting for

692
00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:37.920
Timmy to show up, and Bruce
goes to meson man Mark Madison because we

693
00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:42.519
both covered back then. It was
like in nineties, that's how old we

694
00:43:42.559 --> 00:43:45.920
are. We realized how old.
Well that's yeah, that we were saying.

695
00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:47.320
They were saying, you know,
he was in college and we were

696
00:43:47.320 --> 00:43:52.400
doing these games, and now he's
the head coach. Coach. That's one,

697
00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:54.800
And the other one was the his
dance when he was with the Lakers

698
00:43:54.840 --> 00:43:58.519
and his oh that's right when they
won the when they won the champions.

699
00:43:59.039 --> 00:44:02.480
And then that's the other one.
Yeah, forgot about that can't dance and

700
00:44:02.599 --> 00:44:06.679
they can't. They can't. Yeah, and it's funny that, you know,

701
00:44:06.719 --> 00:44:09.239
you got a guy who went to
Stanford coaching at Cal. But but

702
00:44:09.559 --> 00:44:13.119
you know, he's a big dude. You know, he's a big He

703
00:44:13.199 --> 00:44:16.159
yells a lot, not bad,
not bad things. He's just he screams

704
00:44:16.199 --> 00:44:21.880
instructions to his team when they're in
the middle of a sequence. You know,

705
00:44:21.920 --> 00:44:23.719
he's yelling at guys to get here
and get there and get there there.

706
00:44:24.119 --> 00:44:29.920
And then he really screamed at one
of the refs. Uh, he

707
00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:32.880
thought there was a call that he
thought was a foul, and I mean

708
00:44:34.079 --> 00:44:37.360
the ref is coming by and he
like screamed in his ear that's a foul.

709
00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:39.079
I'm like, that would have busted
his ear drums. I mean it

710
00:44:39.119 --> 00:44:43.480
was. It was really really loud. But you know, he otherwise,

711
00:44:43.480 --> 00:44:45.519
he you know, he was he
was fine. Other than that, Missus

712
00:44:45.559 --> 00:44:50.400
Lincoln. The play was okay.
Yeah, you know I thought, I

713
00:44:50.440 --> 00:44:57.079
thought, look, they they look
well coached. Yeah, just in what

714
00:44:57.119 --> 00:45:00.440
they do, the stuff they run. They just don't have the don't have

715
00:45:00.840 --> 00:45:04.559
players and maybe you'll get Kelson never
had and Kels. You know, they

716
00:45:04.559 --> 00:45:07.360
had Jason Kidd, they had Murray
at the time, but you know,

717
00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:09.360
through the history, through my time
and your time, they haven't really had

718
00:45:09.440 --> 00:45:13.400
much. Yeah. Even when Montgomery
went back there, they got they got

719
00:45:13.400 --> 00:45:16.119
better, but they didn't get really
he can only walk out of water for

720
00:45:16.119 --> 00:45:21.360
so long, you know. But
he did a great job obviously. No,

721
00:45:21.519 --> 00:45:23.320
it's gonna see if he can come
on. Yeah, but you know,

722
00:45:23.360 --> 00:45:29.440
they they were well one, they
weren't really a good airport team.

723
00:45:30.719 --> 00:45:32.440
But I didn't I didn't say that
because the last time I said that it

724
00:45:32.519 --> 00:45:36.239
got dicey when I said that about
U C. L A and Arizona.

725
00:45:36.239 --> 00:45:37.599
I had to come back and win
that. But you know, not not

726
00:45:37.639 --> 00:45:44.679
a good airport team. But you
know, I don't know. It's it's

727
00:45:44.679 --> 00:45:45.880
hard to know if they're you know, how how much he'll do, how

728
00:45:45.920 --> 00:45:51.400
much, how much better they'll get
with him. I don't know what's gonna

729
00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:53.960
It's gonna be a tough haul in
the A c C. Yeah, that's

730
00:45:54.079 --> 00:45:57.239
right, they're going to the A
c C. That's not going to be

731
00:45:57.280 --> 00:46:00.480
easy. No, that's not gonna
be easy. It's for a program for

732
00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:05.239
for a school that doesn't put it
much into athletics. Athletics. Yeah,

733
00:46:05.440 --> 00:46:08.519
well, it's all falling apart.
Anyway, these are tough times. Oh,

734
00:46:08.559 --> 00:46:13.239
I'm sure you have breaking news about
stuff going on in other conferences too.

735
00:46:13.639 --> 00:46:15.280
We'll talk about that once we take
the break, because it's the big

736
00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:19.880
news. Yeah, a lot of
stuff. Man, it's nuts. I'm

737
00:46:19.920 --> 00:46:22.639
really seeing. I'm really worried.
We're getting it off on a tangent.

738
00:46:22.760 --> 00:46:27.039
I'm really worried about what college athletics
is gonna look oh yeah, yeah,

739
00:46:27.079 --> 00:46:30.760
yeah, yeah, going forward,
and how how it's going to survive what

740
00:46:30.840 --> 00:46:34.239
we're going for. Well, I
read your I read your You were talking

741
00:46:34.239 --> 00:46:38.280
about this yesterday with the Tennessee uh, Tennessee and c double A and I

742
00:46:38.360 --> 00:46:42.039
read it, and I'm thinking Tennessee
has a case. I mean, what

743
00:46:42.119 --> 00:46:45.800
do they do whether it's a case, they have a great explanation, and

744
00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:49.559
not that everybody's doing it, well, everybody's doing it exactly how they say

745
00:46:49.599 --> 00:46:54.119
there. They absolutely do have a
case that that says that you can't keep

746
00:46:54.199 --> 00:46:59.960
me from getting from making money.
You can't stop me from making money,

747
00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:04.039
you know, just like I can't
stop you from going to another radio show

748
00:47:04.119 --> 00:47:07.559
and making some money, and you
can't stop me, or you know,

749
00:47:07.599 --> 00:47:10.119
if you're working at the newspaper,
I can't stop you from taking a job

750
00:47:10.159 --> 00:47:15.039
at another newspaper, and you don't
have to accept the job before you know

751
00:47:15.079 --> 00:47:17.599
how much you're gonna make, which
is what the NC DOUAA is trying to

752
00:47:17.599 --> 00:47:22.840
do with nil. They're trying to
say, you can't take nil from somebody

753
00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:28.000
until you are on the team,
signed, sealed, and delivered, and

754
00:47:28.039 --> 00:47:30.679
then you can find out how much
you're gonna make. And that's what the

755
00:47:30.800 --> 00:47:32.840
NC, that's what the rule says. No, they may they have an

756
00:47:32.840 --> 00:47:37.960
incredible case, but but in the
end, though, what what that does

757
00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:44.360
to to to sports is it screws
everything up because you know, and also

758
00:47:44.400 --> 00:47:47.280
with the whole you know, I
can transfer any time I want to deal

759
00:47:49.039 --> 00:47:54.280
again the way athletics has been run
from a from an employment standpoint, from

760
00:47:54.320 --> 00:48:00.400
a standpoint within the laws of the
of the US when you're trying to avoid

761
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:07.559
you know, anti trust complaints.
NC double A has been breaking basically breaking

762
00:48:07.639 --> 00:48:13.320
American loss laws. Yeah, for
one hundred years. Right now it's catching

763
00:48:13.400 --> 00:48:15.199
up to them because now how about
this, how about this? I mean,

764
00:48:15.519 --> 00:48:22.840
you know, there's a conversation you're
starting to hear, what where how

765
00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:28.719
can a school keep a player from
playing more than what if a guy just

766
00:48:28.719 --> 00:48:31.679
says I want to play college football
for the next ten years, and you

767
00:48:31.760 --> 00:48:35.280
say, well, no, you
can't. You have to leave after four?

768
00:48:36.480 --> 00:48:38.039
Why how do you how? You
know, how do you do that?

769
00:48:38.880 --> 00:48:43.239
Right? It's a it's an NC
double A rule. But you know,

770
00:48:44.119 --> 00:48:45.000
I know people, you know,
I know people have been in college

771
00:48:45.039 --> 00:48:49.320
for nine, ten years. Well
you have a guy that's playing for seventh

772
00:48:49.400 --> 00:48:52.519
or eighty yeahah yeah, So so
you know, how can how can the

773
00:48:52.639 --> 00:48:58.760
NC double A or anybody enforce the
rule that says after four, after you've

774
00:48:58.760 --> 00:49:04.920
played four years, you have to
leave, right. I was just telling

775
00:49:04.960 --> 00:49:07.519
the kid here, if you've been
here in school a few years, right,

776
00:49:07.679 --> 00:49:09.760
yeah, and it says you probably
want to go another few years because

777
00:49:09.760 --> 00:49:12.679
it's a tough world out here,
you know. I mean, if you're

778
00:49:12.800 --> 00:49:16.000
if you're a college athlete and you're
making sure one hundred and fifty thousand dollars

779
00:49:16.039 --> 00:49:19.679
a year, two hundred thousand dollars
a year through an IL, and you

780
00:49:19.760 --> 00:49:22.760
know you're not going to make it
in the NFL, why wouldn't you want

781
00:49:22.760 --> 00:49:24.800
to just keep away? And why
and how can they stop you? A

782
00:49:24.840 --> 00:49:30.039
perfect example that is the women the
Caitlin Clarks and the uses who are making

783
00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:32.719
partty more in school than they will
make in the w NBA. Right,

784
00:49:34.159 --> 00:49:37.440
you know, how how can you
have a rule that says you have to

785
00:49:37.559 --> 00:49:42.719
leave college? You have to leave
college? You know there's some people who

786
00:49:42.840 --> 00:49:45.239
never do what you need. You
need, but you need those rules.

787
00:49:45.280 --> 00:49:49.760
You do need those rules. But
under the laws, you know, the

788
00:49:50.119 --> 00:49:53.599
the what you know, what we
as a as a as a country allow

789
00:49:54.039 --> 00:49:59.119
within the laws that regulate that type
of stuff. You can't have a law

790
00:49:59.159 --> 00:50:05.599
that says you can't be in college
anymore, right, Right? I guess,

791
00:50:05.639 --> 00:50:07.239
I guess they could be in college, but they just can't play.

792
00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:12.119
What's that thing in the bar?
It's time to leave? Okay, to

793
00:50:12.119 --> 00:50:15.239
see you. But but how do
you enforce that under what? What law

794
00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:17.639
do you get? Because all this
is going, all this is being but

795
00:50:17.679 --> 00:50:22.400
they're trying to do is dictate all
the n C double A rules with laws

796
00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:27.159
saying n C double A you can't
make that rule because it's against the law

797
00:50:27.679 --> 00:50:30.199
of the United States. Well,
then the n C double A will eventually

798
00:50:30.840 --> 00:50:37.119
band and and and and in college
football will be you know a minor league,

799
00:50:37.360 --> 00:50:39.199
you know, a minor league sports
that pays all its players. But

800
00:50:39.280 --> 00:50:44.400
still you can you say you can
only play college football for X number of

801
00:50:44.480 --> 00:50:49.280
years and then you have to leave
there. You know, how do you

802
00:50:49.719 --> 00:50:52.039
how do you how do you enforce
that with the law or with a rule,

803
00:50:52.760 --> 00:50:55.119
or how do you force it with
a rule that's not in violation of

804
00:50:55.159 --> 00:50:59.400
the law. Yeah, that scares
the crap out of me. Well,

805
00:50:59.400 --> 00:51:04.119
you have twenty twenty six seconds to
figure it out. To relax on that

806
00:51:04.199 --> 00:51:07.360
question, because we're going to break
pera some got off man. Five minutes

807
00:51:07.400 --> 00:51:10.280
ten A lot of a lot of
breaking news from the kid here, all

808
00:51:10.360 --> 00:51:15.119
right, stick around breaking the top
of the hour. M hmmm.