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Now. I know what your reporting. I got a strain of going

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on here. Something just killing my
dog. Something killed your dog, my

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dog. We're flying to or over
the trade. I don't know how it

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did it, okay, dam and
I'm really confused. Also, I thought

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my dog coming over the fence,
and they would have did when you hit

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the growler. I entertaining cards although
I thought it was my dog coming over

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the fenn. What are you putting? We gotta some one or something crawling

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around out here. You see what
it was? Dand it up. I'm

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out here looking through the window now
and I don't see anything. I don't

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want to go outside. Jesus,
point you ready, Carol, deal,

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Hello, get somebody out here,
bo point on the outare. It's thought

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of a bitch about sixty four nine. I don't know he seeming the out

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there. Yes, I'm looking right
here. Hey everybody, this is Less

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Strap. Yes, yes, I
know aka Surviving Man, and you're listening

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to Brian. Let's ess about Jodyson. He guys, welcome back to Sasquatch

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ogustly, thank you so much for
clicking play. It is Sunday. I

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hope you guys all have a great
weekend. We had an amazing show lined

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up for you. But as always, I want to start by inviting gear.

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If you've had an encounter and you'd
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help support the show. As I
said, we've got a great guest lined

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up. I got to sit down
and talk to Evan from New Hampshire and

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if you guys remember Gisha's been maybe
a couple of months back. I had

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Brian Garvey on from New Hampshire and
Brian shared a really interesting tent encounter and

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we also talked about Evan's encounter.
Well, Evan is here to give us

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the full details on his encounter and
talk about some of the other interesting bigfoot

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sidings and encounters that are going on
up in the state of New Hampshire and

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the surrounding area. So we'll get
into all of that in just a moment.

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here for the encounters, so I'm
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welcome our guests of the show.
It is Evan from New Hampshire. Welcome

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to the show. Evan. Hey
Brian, how are you doing. I'm

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good man. I appreciate you being
here. Let's get right into it.

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Let's talk about this bigfoot thing.
Let's talk about what got you interested in

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the subject in the first place.
So when I was growing up, I

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was always interesting like monster quests and
things like Lauren Coleman's Museum up here in

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Portland, Maine. That really got
me on a chump start to my interest

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in crypti zoology as a whole.
Since then, some things, you know,

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growing up, I kind of felt, you know, don't exist in

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a way, but sasquatch and certain
other cryptids you know, have always stuck

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out to me in a way.
And about I think it was got twenty

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eighteen on Thanksgiving, I was riding
around one nute and I had a encounter

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with a sasquatch when I was driving
down a back road. And from there

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someone told me that I should start
a page and collect reports of sasquatch in

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New Hampshire since it was very It's
not well represented up here in the Northeast,

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especially in New Hampshire as is.
So basically that got me on a

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whole rabbit hole going down with sasquatch. I've collected one and twenty some reports,

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and a lot of them are class
A. Most of these people just

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wanted someone to listen to them about
the stories since it's such a taboo topic

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around here. And then since then
I've been involved with many great people and

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heard their encounters and got to work
with some pretty top notch researchers in that

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matter as well. Yeah, I've
become close friends of mine. I definitely

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want to get into some of those
encounters that you've documented there. But that's

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one of the things that Alex Pettacoff
and I have talked about. Brian Garvey

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and I have talked about it's sort
of this underrepresentation in that area in and

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around New Hampshire, And I think
Alex was telling me this, Your state

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is like number two as far as
the most wilderness areas in the United States.

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So I find that a little bit
interesting that you're not getting a ton

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of reports, or at least it
seems to be underrepresented out there in the

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zeit guy. So I'm very glad
that you have decided to sort of take

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up that gauntlet and walk alongside Alex
and even some of the things that Brian

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and Alex are doing together to sort
of document some of them. So I

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certainly want to talk about those.
But you mentioned you were encounter in twenty

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eighteen. Would you mind taking us
back and telling us where you were,

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what you were doing, and describe
what happened to you. Yeah, So

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it was the evening of basegiving twenty
eighteen. I recently lost my best friend

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to a car accident, and I
was pretty depressed at the time, and

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I was driving around some back roads
that was pretty therapeutic to me. And

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I was going down a road in
Nottingham and May Hampshire called Stevens Hill Road,

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and I was going a little bit, you know, too fast,

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and I was coming up upon a
curve and then my high beams hit what

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I thought were a reflector is on
a tree. Lo and behold, as

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I got closer, I watched what
turned out to be a sasquatch raised its

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right arm over its eyes to block
out the high beams. I stopped a

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little bit of a distance away,
and I'm just sitting there like, holy

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crap, like this is actually happening
to me, Like I basically knew what

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it was when I saw it,
but there had there was that little bit

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of disbelief in like shock that was
definitely there that it's standing right in front

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of you. So basically, this
creature lowered its arm down slowly and I

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could see the longer hair on its
forearm. It was illuminating a like a

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brick red orange tape of color with
little bits of snow frozen into the hair

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around its body, and I can
see the breath coming from this thing.

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There's steam, and as it lowers
its arm, it's kind of like sitting

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there staring at me with it's almost
like a scolding look, like what the

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hell are you still standing there for? And I'm sitting there and frozen,

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and this thing just looks at me, guys, squints a little bit,

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and then puffs out of breath,
almost like a grunted at me, which

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I didn't hear or anything, and
I just see this plume steam. He

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just leaves its mouth with the exhale
of whatever I was doing, which definitely

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looked like a grunt to me.
After that, it turns towards the woods

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and runs back down into the woods. That's where I lost sight of it.

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Well, let's talk a little bit
about the size of this thing and

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did you get a good look at
its face? That's always something that's really

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interesting to me when someone gets close
enough to have a face to face encounter

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with them, is what the face
looked like? Was it more ape like?

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Was it more human? And can
you judge as far as how tall

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this thing was? And maybe wait
on it as well? Yeah, So

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the face of the creature was a
more human like for sure, it had

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elements of an ape. How I
described it as a proto human in a

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way. The nose was not like
an ape like a law of depictions show.

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It was more flat, almost like
a native person's nose or like a

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Pacific islanders like no structure, a
little bit flatter. And I remember it

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almost had like a gray, like
an ashy gray skin around its eyes and

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part of its cheeks, but the
rest of the bottom it almost had like

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a beard, so to say,
not so much a beard, but it

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was covered in hair from the chin
in the lower parts of the cheeks.

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I didn't get it looked at its
teeth, even though it kind of grunted

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at me, but that's basically it
looked like in the eyes where this color

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of an auburn, like an auburn
reddish orange. And it wasn't a glow.

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It was distinctly a reflection because I
remember when it turned its ted loss

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act below well the shine that was
reflecting from my high beams. And as

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far as how big this thing was, did you estimate height and weight on

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it? So it wasn't like the
you know, a it wasn't stocky,

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so to say, it wasn't like
completely like huge, like how they say

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how they are over in the Northwest. It was definitely toned. It had

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plenty of muscle mass on it,
but it was very It was around seven

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feet from what I first thought,
and later on when we revisited the site

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of the data we found the track
that's what we were originally out there to

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do. It turned out to be
around eight feet tall for the height,

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and I do remember clearly that the
head did not have that conical shape at

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the top. It was rounded like
a human beings or which, like I

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said, it was more proto human
than eight Did you get a sense of

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I know it's subjective obviously, but
you're clearly coming down this road and you

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got some speed up. You said
you were driving pretty fast, you got

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your high beams on, and this
thing's just standing there, basically propped up

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next to a tree. Do you
have any idea in retrospect what this thing

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might have been doing, Because that's
one of the other things that's always fascinated

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me is how elusive these creatures are
and how very seldom they're actually seen,

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and yet it's I joke all the
time. People are probably already rolling their

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eyes. I know exactly what I'm
gonna say, But I joke about this

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all the time. It seems like
once or twice a month, I'll talk

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to somebody who almost runs over one
of these things crossing the street. So

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did you get a sense of why
it was still standing there, I mean,

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or what it might have been doing. Do you think it was just

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crossing the road or just curious?
So I caught it from my guest mid

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stride as it because there's a pond
down at the bottom of the hill I

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was driving along and it's called Quincy
Pond, and I believe it was the

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right foot that was in front of
the other, and I thought it was

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like walking down to go get a
drink. And after we found the print,

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Bryan Garvey and I talked about it
because we were sitting there for about

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I don't know, two almost two
hours waiting for alex pedicopter arrive, and

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I almost thought that it was kind
of setting like a distraction up for possibly

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a younger one to get away.
There's the tracks that we found were a

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good bit smaller than what I would
expect for that particular sasquatch like it absolutely

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could have been. But I'm guessing
that it could have been sitting there to

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allow for maybe one of the it's
young to get away or another sasquash just

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slip away around the back of my
car or something like that, and I

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could have seen it, So maybe
a distraction. Definitely a water source down

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there, and along that road is
a set of power lines that connects to

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the rest of the state, and
we Alex and I have both collected reports

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from other people along those same set
of power lines or just adjacent to them.

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So maybe like a little bit of
a highway thing, a little bit

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of like a super sasquash highway where
they go up and down migrate upon it

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since it's the route of least resistance. So this thing turns around, it

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takes off into the woods. What
was your immediate reaction? What did you

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do right after this thing turned around
and made its way out of your v

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I basically collected myself and I was
like, I sped right off. I

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drove right guy where it ran down
the hill. I took off, and

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I was sitting there just questioning myself
in a way, is that actually what

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I saw? And it's just too
tangible in my mind, and like just

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the whole aspect of the creature to
sit in there and just the it's the

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image is still seared in my brain, especially the part when it lowered its

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arm, made the face at me
and huffed out that frankly, a massive

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breath of air. That's probably where
the part that it was like the most

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real to me is that this thing
was living, breathing, and especially in

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like there was parts of snow that
we're stuck to its fur. I mean,

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a hallucination wouldn't do any of that, and I wasn't on anything that

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would have caused a hallucination as it's
But most I would be is that I

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was tired. But it's too tangible. It wasn't a dream. It wasn't

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something that I fell asleep while I
was driving and imagined it. It was

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there. It was flesh and blood. Wasn't some sort of you know,

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something going on with my brain.
It was right in front of me.

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So you had that experience, you
collected yourself, you were able to drive

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on how long did it take you
before you were able to tell somebody?

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Because again I've said it on the
show many times one or two things usually

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happens when somebody has, especially a
close up encounter like that where they're looking

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face to face with these things.
They either don't want to talk about it

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and they sort of drive it out
of their mind and they try to move

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on, or they do the opposite
route, which is they want to tell

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everybody they know and then find out
as much as they possibly can about these

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things. Which of those things happened
for you? How long did it take

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you to tell somebody who was that? And how did they take your story?

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And then what happened for you after
that as far as wanting to know

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more? So, basically, I
mean I kept the story to myself,

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even from my family, which after
my friend died, he was the closest

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person to me that I had for
that basically the fifteen years I knew when

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I grew up with a guy and
he was the only one that I really

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talked to and the only the person
that I told to like this encounter too

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was my ex girlfriend about the situation
and that I have the encounter there,

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and I mean she believed me,
but I was still hesitant to even share

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it. And that's where the idea
came up. To the create the they

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Hampshire Sasquatch page itself. Now,
I you know, the BFR row in

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my state, there's really no BFR
row. There's no I mean, there

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is a member that is active,
but not as active as a state like

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California or Washington for that matter,
somewhere than Northwest or the West itself.

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And basically that's what made me get, you know, in the Hampshire Sasquatch

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page going. So I can not
only help myself and get confirmation and get

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what other people are seeing, but
I wanted to also help the other people

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that were in my area who have
encounters to be able to share their stories

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and not feel like it's taboo,
and give them a platform that they're able

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to hey, I saw this,
this is my story, and not be

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judged for it, which I've ended
up drawing out a lot more people from

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the Hampshire in the Northeast as a
whole, to share their stories in a

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place that's it's so taboo and it's
such a weird thing. It takes a

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lot for someone to come out with
those stories, especially with the emotional situations

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that it put them through. Some
of them have PTSDs, some ways,

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stay tuned for more sasquatch Otosy will
be right back after these messages, and

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they won't go out on the woods
afterwards. How I was in a way,

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I won't go camping alone anymore.
I used to go camping, buy

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myself for the woods all the time. But now that I know what in

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the woods, even though I know
that it's probably not going to hurt me,

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I still have that problem. Yeah, and you're not alone, man,

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I've got to show. We're recording
this on April nineteenth. I think

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Dan's show is going to be out
this Friday and a couple of days,

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So people who are hearing this now
probably already heard his episode. But Dan

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was a hunter, and he came
face to face with one of these things

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that he thought was luring him in
with wood knocks, which is something I've

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never really heard before his story,
and he had a really difficult time.

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He had PTSD. He turned to
drinking. He was very open and honest

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about trying to drink his troubles away
and bury this thing at the bottom of

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a bottle, in his words.
So I think there's a lot of people

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out there who have that similar experience
and probably turn to the same thing.

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So I think it's a phenomenal thing. It's a brave thing. Ad you

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never wanted to share your story and
then to be want to help other people

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and create a group to give people
a platform like that to come out and

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say this happened to me, and
I want to share it with somebody who

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doesn't think I'm crazy. That's what
the show is all about. Sasquatch Odyssey

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has always been a safe space and
people, you know, that's a warm

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and fuzzy, you know, millennial
word. Everybody needs a safe space,

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but you really do. You have
to have a safe space to come and

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tell your stories where people don't judge
you and don't think that you're crazy.

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Because every single story has merit.
There's something to be gleaned from every single

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encounter story, whether it's a whoop
or a wood knock or a face to

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face encounter from twenty feet away.
Everybody's story is important. So I applaud

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you for at least being able to
come out initially and tell somebody and then

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say, you know what, I'm
not just going to tell people. I'm

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going to have a place for people
to come and share their encounters as well.

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I want to talk a little bit
about you mentioned it, So let's

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go back to when you and Brian
obviously shared the story in detail on the

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show before, but I want to
get it from your perspective. How long

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did it take you to go back
to that spot and once you when Brian

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went out there, what kind of
evidence did you find? And frankly,

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you can close it out by maybe
even if you got any closure from going

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back to that area and finding what
you guys found. So I was actually

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relatively I was able to go back
to that spot within like two to three

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weeks of my encounter. I didn't
go driving around. I was, like

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I mentioned, I was driving around
because I was grieving because of my friend

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that died. But I didn't go
to that area and I reavoided a lot

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of other areas that were similar to
that until I went and visited it the

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location in the middle of the day
when Brian and I. Brian and I

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started talking because he commented on one
of my post on Instagram Brendon Hampshire Sasquatch

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page, and he was saying that
he had an encounter close by to the

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encounter that I was posting my page. Basically that was a couple of years

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ago, you know, set off
a pretty great friendship between me and him,

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and that we're pretty close, and
the fact that we trust each other

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when we go on hikes or if
we go squatching, and that's the stuff

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we believe exactly what are saying.
So he's the first person that I brought

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back to that encounter location and that
I really felt like, hey, like

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this guy knows me on a you
know named the dating basis. He knows

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why I went through, he knows
about like the fear that I faced with

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it. So we decided to go
make a video of both of our encounter

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locations on my form my YouTube channel, and his YouTube channel. We ended

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up meeting up I believe it was
in I think it was late March.

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If I'm not mistaken, very bad
times, I apologize, and we met

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up in ports Mission, Hampshire.
Since my encounter location was closer, we

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ended up going to my encounter location
first, So we drove about the thirty

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forty minutes that takes to get to
BALI encounter location, and we had to

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park in a little pull off area
down the road a bit and we walked

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up to where my encounter took place. He had his dog chewing with him.

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He always has his go pro running, regardless of the fact when we're

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out in the woods, just in
that, you know, slim chance of

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something happening. In that case,
something did happen that day. As we

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walked up to the spot, I
pointed out the location of my encounter,

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which was a dash on the tree
that was from a cloud truck hitting the

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tree. As they're walking up on
it, I'm scanning the ground and as

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Brian's dog is about to step in
the track self, I spotted out and

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I well, I surely don't get
away. And I looked down on the

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ground and I'm picking the leaves off
of it, and it's a full footprint

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impression that is in this hard packed
dirt road. And we're looking out like

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they were like, dude, dude, that's a track. That thing has

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digits on it, it has toes
and me and him are both freaking out.

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I'm not sure if you saw the
video or not on his page.

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I never uploaded it, but he
um, you know, we're throwing off

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the F bomb left and right,
all excited, and we're going like hey,

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like this is pointing in ile across
the road. Go see if you

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can see anything over there. I
was checking one part of the road which

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we found like little impressions in the
back which weren't castable. It was just

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intrigues. But you can see the
impressions where the saying walked up the hill

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in a way from that direction.
We didn't get like a complete trackway from

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the lower part of the hill like
where the pond was. But on the

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other side of the road where the
best track was casted, there's two impressions

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that are in this hard packed slope
going up the side of the road,

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which happened to possibly have digits,
which we called up Alex Petakov and we

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casted it out with his help.
Actually Alex had to call up Cliff Barracknan

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to get some help of casting it
since it was on a slope. So,

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you know, we take out the
cast and everything, and we're cleaning

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them off a little bit, and
we'll behold that one of the cast actually

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had digits potentially from a sasquatch in
them with the tracks, and we were

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trying to you know, recreate the
tracks. We were trying to you know,

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step on the piece of well,
you know, the slope that was

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going up and we couldn't make a
dent to net. And I'm a pretty

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big dude, I'm sixty three in
the upper two hundreds, and I was

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only able to make my foot sink
like maybe like a half inch if that,

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and I was stomping on it at
the same time. I have a

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spacize fourteen foot This track was basically
dwarfing my foot. I hate to say,

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and I don't want to say that
it's a sasquatch without it's actually seeing

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the sasquash make the traps. But
there's no one walking around the woods.

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So that alone a dirt road making
impressions that deep and compacted dirt and everything

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in the middle of nowhere barefoot,
especially around like sixteen and a half inch

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tracks, that would basically be a
basketball player out no nowhere walking around barefoot.

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And that's the mark. Yeah right
here. Wow. So he was

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standing right you know ship that's where
he was standing. That's crazy. I

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was just looking at that too.
Come on, I had to be just

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stepped right in the middle of it. Yep, that sounds the holy shit.

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Yeah. Luck, we got track, way, we got track all

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this wow hand across the road.
Take a picture of that? Are you

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filming? I didn't put you on
so wow? Dude, Yeah, I

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got I got a good Hey,
I gotta I got an excellent camera in

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my truck, I mean in your
in my backpack. I should have got

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my I should have dude, dude, dude, are you kidding me?

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You joking me? Do these broken
branches gone through here? Do you want

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to go? Do you want to
take a little do you want to go

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in there? Dude? I don't
know. Look my hairs a raised out.

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Rude, dude, what are the
odds? Look at that? We

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need we need a callout? No
way, Okay, we are We found

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tracks. We found tracks. We
found frigging tracks, and we can see

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the toe impressions. Ship. This
is crazy right where Evan had his encounter.

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There are tracks. We're gonna follow
them. That's crazy. We're gonna

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cast them right now. And we
found a track way awful possible track way.

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You're r ass. That is crazy, h this is import Hey,

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dude, I'm a joking on the
contract way. My concert clock? Is

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that Alex? Yeah? It is
the Ruins. Yeah, I guess I

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can see toe impressions. I guess
I'll just try it out. That thing

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was heavy? Is he coming?
I'm looking dude, there's a lot of

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leak. But wow, I'm gonna
go back a little bit. All right.

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I don't see any tracks down there. I just so much leave,

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you know. Yeah right there,
I'm white market with a white market with

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a water bottle. Yeah. Wow, you could hear Brian freaking on.

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Unreal on. I mean, I
love that. We get the impression now,

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but this is great. Wow.
Yeah, seventeen inches toe toe toe

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toe man, especially with the dystry
in material. Is this gonna be a

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tricky in the cast. Yeah,
that's what I thought. It's gonna run

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on a slope. Yeah, trying
to figure out how to Uh, I

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mean I got probably, I got
we got we got a lot of We've

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got a lot of plaster. But
I just I've never cast like on an

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upward Um he would you would you
be okay with me trying to call Cliff

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barrickman. He's like really, you
know, he's he's picked up calls in

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the past. We've gotten like potentially
red stuff. Hey, Cliff, how's

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it going, man? This is
Alex. Sorry. Yeah, I'm sorry

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to bother you, but we have
a potential track find here in New Hampshire

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in a line, and we're just
it's it's on a little bit of a

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slope. So I'm just I've never
cast on a slope like this, so

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I'm just kind of reaching out to
see if there's any tips or anything you

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might be able to to lend us. Oh yeah, yeah, sure,

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sure. Um, it depends on
the slope and the situation, of course,

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but I've I've cast on more than
a forty five degree slope before.

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Okay, yeah, this is lasting
forty five for sure. This is like

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the embankment of a of a side
of a dirt road. Well you can

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try to build a damn okay that
works. Paper bags in the back,

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but yeah, we I mean we
have we got paper bags, probably got

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some plastic stuff. I got a
bunch of all of the stuff in the

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back in my car, so I'm
sure we could probably make shift something.

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Make sure, yeah don't. Yeah, we we eat like twenty pounds probably

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when we walk out of there.
Sure, sure, we've got a bag,

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a big bag of paris. And
then he had what it was the

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other watch it, watch you,
we watch you. We So we got

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a dog and we're like, we're
kind of near a state park and this

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is action an area where the guy
who called me out here he's had a

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class A basically virtually almost in the
same spot a number of years ago.

408
00:34:46.800 --> 00:34:50.280
And so you guys working, they
got some tip tape, missus and everything.

409
00:34:50.480 --> 00:34:55.360
Obviously, make sure we get everything
squared away about recording details every photograph

410
00:34:55.400 --> 00:35:02.840
for people are going to hackle you
absolutely minimum minimum photographs everything, either of

411
00:35:02.880 --> 00:35:07.639
you guys right, there's also three
D scan thing have you that that's kind

412
00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:14.159
of a fun one might up yet, but from above left, right,

413
00:35:14.280 --> 00:35:22.440
turn back, Um maybe as order
that's it has sure, But when it

414
00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:28.360
comes to finally cast one, um, well, you can't ask one the

415
00:35:28.400 --> 00:35:32.960
one. Try to cast that multiple
the same foot right, um, left

416
00:35:34.079 --> 00:35:36.480
right, people who take lesson right
and that's great and you can do it.

417
00:35:36.639 --> 00:35:38.880
And you got another plaster you're right, a little plaster multiple in the

418
00:35:38.920 --> 00:35:45.440
same foot car being a differentiation and
visu Yeah, we've got we've got three

419
00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:49.000
three to three ones that you can
tell. There's an impression. One of

420
00:35:49.039 --> 00:35:52.079
them happens to be on flat ground
and it's not as defined, but um

421
00:35:52.559 --> 00:35:57.559
yeah, I'll send you some pictures
afterwards. It just like this area every

422
00:35:58.440 --> 00:36:00.519
well what Unfortunately it's like a stage
park. We've got cars driving through for

423
00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:04.599
two seconds and we're like right in
the middle of the road but we're kind

424
00:36:04.599 --> 00:36:07.639
of getting out of the way here. But um, yeah, it's it's

425
00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:20.360
definitely interesting, definitely interesting with very
little how good this ship is? All

426
00:36:20.440 --> 00:36:23.000
right? So again we've got our
three casts here. We just walked through

427
00:36:23.039 --> 00:36:27.280
the whole area. I mean,
not a whole lot, but I think

428
00:36:27.360 --> 00:36:30.440
this would be a really good area
to come in and actually focus on,

429
00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:34.280
maybe in in a couple of weeks
here, do like some night investigating,

430
00:36:34.320 --> 00:36:37.440
do some investigations in this area.
What do you guys think we'll get.

431
00:36:37.519 --> 00:36:39.320
We'll get Kerrick and the rest of
the kard here. Like I said,

432
00:36:39.760 --> 00:36:44.079
very good, we're very promising.
I mean it's again hard to say what

433
00:36:44.239 --> 00:36:49.400
it is, but I mean it's
interesting. So yeah, there we go.

434
00:36:49.679 --> 00:36:52.400
I don't remember if you said,
Evan, but what how much time

435
00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:57.760
had elapse between you actually having your
encounter and then you guys going out and

436
00:36:57.880 --> 00:37:04.039
finding the tracks? So that was
last let's say I think it was about

437
00:37:04.320 --> 00:37:10.159
three four years. That passed by
three to four years, and this track,

438
00:37:10.440 --> 00:37:15.280
one of the tracks was literally about
five to six feet away where I

439
00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:22.199
actually saw the Sasquatch standard years prior
on Thanksgiving. So that's what drove you

440
00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:25.920
know, Alex and Brian and I
too like think like, hey, like

441
00:37:27.719 --> 00:37:34.480
this could be like a regular route
that they take, especially with the power

442
00:37:34.559 --> 00:37:39.199
lines being like less than like a
quarter to like a half a mile down

443
00:37:39.280 --> 00:37:44.679
the road through the woods too.
Especially you know, it could be a

444
00:37:44.800 --> 00:37:50.039
water like it's definitely a water source
for them, since the pond is right

445
00:37:50.159 --> 00:37:54.880
there, not even two hundred feet
away. Not that you needed it,

446
00:37:55.079 --> 00:38:00.360
but did finding the track way and
being able to cast some of those prints,

447
00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:05.159
did it give you a sense of
validation? What was your feeling after

448
00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:07.760
you found that and you said,
holy shit, this is five feet away

449
00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:13.440
from where I saw this thing.
It definitely removed that part of disbelief that

450
00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:17.280
I still had for myself, even
know like it was very slim. It

451
00:38:17.400 --> 00:38:22.840
was just a big time like wave
of like confirmation, like, oh my

452
00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:28.679
god, like this is tangible proof
of like what I saw. This is

453
00:38:28.800 --> 00:38:31.920
not only proof for like myself,
but this is like proof to go towards

454
00:38:32.760 --> 00:38:37.159
you know, everybody else that like, hey, this guy had an encounter

455
00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:42.039
there and a couple of years later, there's tracks in the same, like

456
00:38:42.159 --> 00:38:47.760
almost the same exact location, going
back, like going from the pond where

457
00:38:49.360 --> 00:38:52.199
I had my encounter. It took
away all the doubt for me. But

458
00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:58.639
it also not only helped me in
that case, but there was a couple

459
00:38:58.760 --> 00:39:05.559
other people that were within two miles
of that exact spot that have also had

460
00:39:05.760 --> 00:39:12.360
encounters, one of which is an
encounter that's on the bfr Row website mentioning

461
00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:16.920
a blue eyed sasquatch watching a kid
while he was biking through the wood.

462
00:39:17.400 --> 00:39:21.039
Now, I'm not sure if that
person has seen it. I haven't been

463
00:39:21.079 --> 00:39:25.159
able to reach out to them.
I know who it is now, but

464
00:39:25.320 --> 00:39:30.760
there's other people that like saw that
and like, hey, like I have

465
00:39:30.920 --> 00:39:34.280
an encounter not too far from there. That's great that you saw that.

466
00:39:34.920 --> 00:39:37.679
There's a guy that was about two
miles through the woods, two and a

467
00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:45.320
half miles through the woods that exact
spot, that had a Class B encounter

468
00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:51.159
that the thing ran up to his
house, smacked the side of the house

469
00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:58.280
and he called the police department.
Two towns showed up, and while the

470
00:39:58.440 --> 00:40:05.119
police officer one of them and he
was out there with them, they could

471
00:40:05.199 --> 00:40:09.519
hear something clearly of two feet crunching
through the ice. Stay tuned for more

472
00:40:09.599 --> 00:40:19.920
sasquatch out to sea wing right back
after these messages, something heavy crunching through

473
00:40:19.960 --> 00:40:22.719
the ice. Now this ice was
you know, thick enough that a person

474
00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:28.639
can walk on it. And as
you know, a loose walks on all

475
00:40:28.760 --> 00:40:34.119
fours. That's closest to the biggest
animal that would be able to possibly break

476
00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:37.679
that ice. But there's since it's
walks on all fours, it's not going

477
00:40:37.719 --> 00:40:45.440
to have that bipedal stride of annoy
that sounded it walking. So did finding

478
00:40:45.559 --> 00:40:50.880
that track away and being able to
cast those prints? Did you continue to

479
00:40:50.960 --> 00:40:52.400
go out in the woods. Do
you continue to go out in the woods

480
00:40:52.440 --> 00:40:57.400
and try to have another encounter or
are you good with that? And now

481
00:40:57.440 --> 00:41:01.599
it's more about sitting back and collecting
the reports in sort of analyzing the data

482
00:41:01.679 --> 00:41:07.000
and helping other people share their stories. Oh no, I'm still I'm still

483
00:41:07.239 --> 00:41:12.199
active in the woods to this day. A matter of fact, I've gotten

484
00:41:12.239 --> 00:41:17.840
to the point that I'm leading expeditions
in New Hampshire itself. I got seven

485
00:41:17.920 --> 00:41:24.400
people coming out with me on Friday. It's coming Friday in an area that's

486
00:41:24.480 --> 00:41:30.559
close to where I had my encounter
to take them squatching, to take you

487
00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:32.199
know, get them out in the
woods to you know, face their fear.

488
00:41:32.400 --> 00:41:39.639
I've gotten over the fear aspect of
going through the woods and that you

489
00:41:39.719 --> 00:41:44.000
know, if they were to get
me, they would have already gotten me.

490
00:41:44.800 --> 00:41:49.320
And we've come pretty close. Another
investigator in the state. We've had

491
00:41:49.880 --> 00:41:53.800
trees get pushed down around us,
We've had wood knocks, we've heard whoops.

492
00:41:53.880 --> 00:41:58.079
Alex has come out to the location
as well. He thought that he

493
00:41:58.320 --> 00:42:02.880
possibly heard a whoop as well.
But it's kind of if you have the

494
00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:07.599
respect for them and you're not harassing
them, they won't really bother. Now.

495
00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:15.239
I've never had another like encounter,
another class A encounter, but I've

496
00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:20.199
definitely heard things in the woods regarding
Knox. I have a recording of a

497
00:42:20.519 --> 00:42:23.519
whoop that came from the border of
New Hampshire and Maine. Obviously we have

498
00:42:23.679 --> 00:42:28.599
the tracks. I'm still on the
trail for them, and I'm even going

499
00:42:28.920 --> 00:42:31.679
like Brian, Alex and I and
a couple other people, you know,

500
00:42:31.840 --> 00:42:37.760
we have plans in the future or
going out around here, but I can't

501
00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:44.320
mention more than that or the state
for Alex. Small town monsters. Well,

502
00:42:44.400 --> 00:42:47.400
let's talk a little bit about the
wood knocks and maybe even the vocalizations

503
00:42:47.400 --> 00:42:52.880
and the whoops. Again. The
episode that I just did recently with the

504
00:42:53.000 --> 00:43:00.159
hunter Dan, he had an encounter
where he was hearing wood knocks and he

505
00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:01.840
was out in an area where he
and his dad had separated. They were

506
00:43:01.880 --> 00:43:06.320
hunting in different areas. He hears
these strange knocks, and he's like,

507
00:43:06.440 --> 00:43:07.440
what the hell is that, you
know, and he kind of keeps walking

508
00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:12.079
on and the louder they get,
and the more that he hears, he

509
00:43:12.199 --> 00:43:16.239
starts going towards the wood knocks,
and it ended up culminating and this thing

510
00:43:16.320 --> 00:43:21.480
stepping out from behind a tree and
presenting itself to him, you know,

511
00:43:21.679 --> 00:43:24.960
fifteen twenty yards away, And it
was a pretty harrowing experience. And frankly,

512
00:43:24.960 --> 00:43:30.280
it was one of the most interesting
and I don't know what the word

513
00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:35.119
I'm looking for, it was one
of the most interesting encounter stories I have

514
00:43:35.239 --> 00:43:37.800
ever heard, not until I've just
documented, but in general, just that

515
00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:42.480
I've ever heard. And one of
the most interesting parts of it was the

516
00:43:42.559 --> 00:43:45.280
wood knocking. And you know,
most people, I won't say most,

517
00:43:45.320 --> 00:43:51.000
a lot of people in the Bigfoot
community or have had experiences or investigators will

518
00:43:51.079 --> 00:43:54.800
say wood knocks are usually some sort
of communication. A lot of people say

519
00:43:54.880 --> 00:44:00.679
it's a warning, Hey I'm here, we're here, stay away for humans,

520
00:44:00.920 --> 00:44:04.400
right, And that's what I've always
heard, and that's kind of what

521
00:44:04.599 --> 00:44:09.760
I've always imagined what was going on. Yet, when Dan tells his story,

522
00:44:10.519 --> 00:44:15.760
he believes that the wood knocks were
being used to lure him in for

523
00:44:15.920 --> 00:44:20.280
a possible ambush. That's what he
felt. He felt like this thing was

524
00:44:20.360 --> 00:44:23.840
luring him in, and he really
got pissed off at himself after the incident,

525
00:44:23.920 --> 00:44:27.840
and he was able to sort of
decompress and said, I can't believe

526
00:44:27.960 --> 00:44:30.320
you did that. You know better
than that this thing was luring you in.

527
00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:34.960
And he believes that he got close
enough to see or he got close

528
00:44:35.079 --> 00:44:37.119
enough to it to see, Hey, this thing's got a weapon. It's

529
00:44:37.159 --> 00:44:42.039
probably not a good idea. So
the final really loud knock was to say,

530
00:44:42.119 --> 00:44:44.039
hey, get the hell out of
here, and that didn't work.

531
00:44:44.119 --> 00:44:46.719
He kept coming forward. So this
thing presented itself. So I said all

532
00:44:46.760 --> 00:44:51.239
that to say, what is your
opinion? And again it's subjective. I'm

533
00:44:51.280 --> 00:44:53.880
not saying you're an expert. I'm
not asking you to make anything up here,

534
00:44:54.199 --> 00:44:59.840
But what is your experience when you're
documenting these stories and maybe even hearing

535
00:44:59.880 --> 00:45:02.679
the things yourself about the wood Knox. What do you think they mean and

536
00:45:02.760 --> 00:45:07.119
what do you think they're they're doing
them for? So, in my opinion,

537
00:45:08.199 --> 00:45:13.440
from what I've noticed in that case, I think the sasquatch probably thought

538
00:45:13.559 --> 00:45:19.400
that, you know, either a
wasn't aware of him being in the area,

539
00:45:20.039 --> 00:45:23.199
and it could have been potentially trying
to communicate with another sasquatch in an

540
00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:31.519
area. That's more or less what
I've drawn as a hypothesis for me with

541
00:45:31.760 --> 00:45:37.880
that situation with the wood Knox.
When I go to one of my research

542
00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:43.840
areas that we call mousecamp up here
in the in New Hampshire, we will

543
00:45:43.960 --> 00:45:52.840
either be one coming into the area
itself and will occasionally hear a possible wood

544
00:45:52.920 --> 00:46:00.239
knock, or we will be leaving
and will hear a wood knock. In

545
00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:06.079
particular when we're leaving, it's sometimes
two or three. So I think it's

546
00:46:06.159 --> 00:46:14.079
more of hey, like someone's entering
our area or our territory, avoid this

547
00:46:14.360 --> 00:46:19.519
area or be cautious. But we
have gotten, you know, to the

548
00:46:19.559 --> 00:46:22.440
point that we've been poking around an
area, and we've had trees pushed down

549
00:46:23.079 --> 00:46:28.079
probably from like a quarter mile to
a half mile away, and you can

550
00:46:28.239 --> 00:46:31.320
hear like the popping, the cracking
of it being pushed down on a windless

551
00:46:31.440 --> 00:46:37.960
night might be but I definitely think
what they do to make noises like the

552
00:46:37.039 --> 00:46:42.360
wood knots if it even is you
know, using a piece of wood,

553
00:46:42.880 --> 00:46:46.800
be a bone, whatever, or
if they're doing it themselves, I definitely

554
00:46:46.880 --> 00:46:53.400
think it's territorial to a point,
or just to communicate with other sasquatches without

555
00:46:54.199 --> 00:47:00.800
you know, doing a whoop or
a vocalization such as it's like ohio,

556
00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:06.440
howel and wood, not to draw
attention to them that it's not out of

557
00:47:06.480 --> 00:47:09.639
the question of a tree branch,
you know, hitting something well, you

558
00:47:09.800 --> 00:47:15.559
know when it's a knock because of
how powerful and the sheer force of it

559
00:47:15.679 --> 00:47:21.440
just hitting a tree or whatever it
is. So let's talk a little bit

560
00:47:21.480 --> 00:47:24.000
about some of the accounts that you've
been able to document in and around that

561
00:47:24.119 --> 00:47:27.880
area. I think you said you
had something around the like one hundred and

562
00:47:27.920 --> 00:47:30.079
twenty or so. Can you talk
about some of those that have really stuck

563
00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:34.679
out to you, Maybe some of
the class A sidings and encounters with these

564
00:47:34.719 --> 00:47:38.800
things and talk about what happened during
those and maybe give us some sense of

565
00:47:38.920 --> 00:47:43.920
what people are seeing as far as
a physical description in that area. Yeah,

566
00:47:44.559 --> 00:47:49.039
absolutely so. There's one that was
located on a mountain and dad knock

567
00:47:49.199 --> 00:47:54.400
that happened. I believe it was
a summer in twenty thirteen. This individual

568
00:47:54.559 --> 00:48:04.039
is hiking down a trail after a
sunset hiker or in the evening, down

569
00:48:04.159 --> 00:48:09.000
the White Arrow Trail it's called,
and he thought that he heard an animal

570
00:48:09.239 --> 00:48:14.760
being put down somewhere in the woods, and he thought it was a poacher

571
00:48:14.800 --> 00:48:17.079
at the time put him down his
kill. From what the guy told me,

572
00:48:17.239 --> 00:48:22.920
he wasn't very well versed with like
animal calls and that stuff and stuff

573
00:48:22.960 --> 00:48:27.079
in a while, so he assumed
that it was a human doing something.

574
00:48:28.039 --> 00:48:31.480
So he calls out, there's a
person over here to alert the possible entry

575
00:48:31.519 --> 00:48:37.280
or slash poacher. And he said
that put him in an uneasy state of

576
00:48:37.360 --> 00:48:39.800
mind, and he kept his knife
out while he was going down the trail.

577
00:48:40.360 --> 00:48:44.920
A little bit further down the trail, he actually you had put his

578
00:48:45.239 --> 00:48:51.320
light on, and he stopped to
have a drink of water, and he

579
00:48:51.480 --> 00:48:53.599
as he was looking around, he
saw a little bit of eyeshine, and

580
00:48:53.719 --> 00:48:58.480
he walked up to the eyeshine a
little bit closer, and it was of

581
00:48:58.760 --> 00:49:06.960
a deer that was on a small
cliff of sorts. The deer was a

582
00:49:07.079 --> 00:49:12.039
fresh kill. It wasn't bloated,
but he observed that the neck was broken

583
00:49:13.039 --> 00:49:16.440
and what he thought to be some
of the legs to be snapped off.

584
00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:22.480
And he approached it more and with
his knife drawn from what he said,

585
00:49:22.880 --> 00:49:29.519
and he said that over the cliff
was the face of a I believe,

586
00:49:29.639 --> 00:49:34.920
he said, a gorilla, and
it was showing its teeth to him,

587
00:49:35.119 --> 00:49:38.639
almost like clearing its teeth, and
he described its teeth as blocky. And

588
00:49:38.800 --> 00:49:45.519
then it reached over, grabbed the
deer and dragged it back down, and

589
00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:49.440
he slowly backed off, he said, and he ran down a wrestling trail

590
00:49:50.239 --> 00:49:53.840
back to his vehicle. That one
has stuck out to me quite a bit

591
00:49:54.679 --> 00:50:01.079
in terms of it's reported you know
around the country of you know, deer

592
00:50:01.159 --> 00:50:06.480
with their legs being snapped off and
finding like deer hook hooves that are like

593
00:50:06.559 --> 00:50:13.119
almost twisted off in a way in
a way to dismantle these animals, the

594
00:50:13.400 --> 00:50:17.800
potentially sasquash kill. Yeah, it's
definitely an interesting story, and it sounds

595
00:50:17.800 --> 00:50:22.599
like it would be a pretty terrifying
situation to run up on something like that.

596
00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:25.480
What else are other people seeing out
there? A lot? You know,

597
00:50:25.679 --> 00:50:32.760
it's a pretty um universal situation that
it's mostly the people are you know,

598
00:50:32.920 --> 00:50:37.920
being stocked, or they're coming upon
these creatures when they least expect it,

599
00:50:38.760 --> 00:50:45.480
when they're unaware, because I believe
that these creatures either a only show

600
00:50:45.559 --> 00:50:50.679
themselves when they're being you know,
caught off guard, or they're driving people

601
00:50:50.800 --> 00:50:55.239
out of their territory, but they're
not going out of their way to you

602
00:50:55.320 --> 00:51:00.880
know, harm the person. I
don't think I've ever received every port of

603
00:51:01.039 --> 00:51:07.280
a sasquatch trying to kill or harm
an individual for that matter. I've had

604
00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:15.679
I believe, two or three reports
regarding a sasquatch killing a dog, but

605
00:51:15.840 --> 00:51:19.719
that's really all that I can think
of for the aggressive portions of it.

606
00:51:20.360 --> 00:51:23.679
Otherwise it's you know, they will
see the sasquatch, and the sasquatch will

607
00:51:23.719 --> 00:51:28.599
be unaware, and the you will
just run off into the woods. But

608
00:51:28.840 --> 00:51:34.800
a lot of a lot of tree
structures are being found as for you know,

609
00:51:35.599 --> 00:51:40.039
blast sea sort of things. A
lot of structures that people can't you

610
00:51:40.119 --> 00:51:45.360
know, explain that aren't like the
little you know, TP structures that survival

611
00:51:46.119 --> 00:51:51.199
or like the lead twos that survival
classes teach out in the woods, people

612
00:51:51.239 --> 00:51:55.119
are finding trees that are ripped out
of the ground, tipped upside down with

613
00:51:55.280 --> 00:52:00.920
the root ball in the air,
which I found the wood earlier this year,

614
00:52:00.639 --> 00:52:06.199
and me and you're not having a
person, you know, come out

615
00:52:06.280 --> 00:52:09.960
in the middle of nowhere rip a
tree all the ground that weighs probably two

616
00:52:10.039 --> 00:52:15.480
or three times what they weigh or
more, lits it up and just stick

617
00:52:15.519 --> 00:52:19.280
it into the ground. Yeah,
those kind of things have always been interesting

618
00:52:19.360 --> 00:52:21.960
to me. You know. Again, like you said, the TP structures

619
00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:24.639
and things like that that are in
areas that are accessible to other people could

620
00:52:24.760 --> 00:52:30.920
possibly be as you said, people
teach bushcraft and those kind of things are

621
00:52:30.039 --> 00:52:35.119
common in those kind of classes and
things like that. But to your point,

622
00:52:35.199 --> 00:52:38.000
when it's a tree that's turned upside
down and stuck in with the root

623
00:52:38.039 --> 00:52:43.440
ball up, I've seen pictures of
those before. It's just really really strange,

624
00:52:44.079 --> 00:52:45.599
And I don't know what else would
be doing that. I don't,

625
00:52:45.639 --> 00:52:49.559
frankly, I don't know why sasquats
would do that other than it's some sort

626
00:52:49.599 --> 00:52:53.199
of a territorial thing or whatever.
I'm always curious about. Like in your

627
00:52:53.400 --> 00:52:59.039
example, when you were talking about
your sighting, you mentioned I wrote down

628
00:52:59.119 --> 00:53:05.000
the note of no conical head.
This thing had more of a rounder type

629
00:53:05.079 --> 00:53:07.760
head. And I honestly I used
to be sort of skeptical of that stuff

630
00:53:07.760 --> 00:53:12.360
when I would hear all these stories
and people would describe you know, everybody

631
00:53:12.440 --> 00:53:15.320
has that Patty image in their brain
here, at least I do when it

632
00:53:15.400 --> 00:53:19.559
comes to sasquatch normally, because that's
sort of the thing that we draw on

633
00:53:19.760 --> 00:53:23.400
is what we know, right,
But when people have sightings and they talk

634
00:53:23.440 --> 00:53:29.880
about what the head looked like or
and it sort of deviates from that classic

635
00:53:30.079 --> 00:53:34.880
shape of Patty looking back in that
whatever that frame was in the PG film.

636
00:53:35.280 --> 00:53:37.639
But I want to talk a little
bit about that because I've said it

637
00:53:37.760 --> 00:53:40.800
before about people I won't mention the
name about people I think are hoaxing and

638
00:53:42.360 --> 00:53:45.599
the different types of sasquatch that they're
presenting on video and things like that,

639
00:53:46.239 --> 00:53:50.320
And I'm like, Okay, this
isn't like a two to three square mile

640
00:53:50.440 --> 00:53:55.000
area. How could there be this
sort of diversity amongst these creatures? Hey?

641
00:53:55.039 --> 00:53:59.400
Because I don't think there's as many
of them out there as people sometimes

642
00:53:59.519 --> 00:54:04.960
purport to be. And then you've
got five or six different, extremely different

643
00:54:05.280 --> 00:54:07.280
looking types of these things. But
the more that I've talked about it with

644
00:54:07.360 --> 00:54:10.280
people, and the more I've done
some research, it sort of makes sense

645
00:54:10.400 --> 00:54:15.480
that they don't all look the same. In my mind, it almost adds

646
00:54:15.519 --> 00:54:20.599
more credence to somebody's story when they
describe something other than a patty type of

647
00:54:20.840 --> 00:54:23.320
creature. So what are you seeing
as far as physical descriptions? Is it

648
00:54:23.920 --> 00:54:27.760
like the guy that you mentioned with
a deer, he described what looked like

649
00:54:27.880 --> 00:54:30.760
a gorilla. Yours certainly didn't seem
to look like a gorilla. Are you

650
00:54:30.920 --> 00:54:34.320
hearing these other types? And can
you talk a little bit about what you

651
00:54:34.400 --> 00:54:37.400
mentioned with the blue eyed sasquatch.
I'm very interested in that. Were the

652
00:54:37.480 --> 00:54:42.440
eyes that these people were seeing and
describing. Was it a blue glow like

653
00:54:42.559 --> 00:54:45.880
they were luminescent, or was it
just eyeshine or what? Can you talk

654
00:54:45.880 --> 00:54:50.199
a little bit about that as well. Yeah, So in regards to the

655
00:54:50.320 --> 00:54:54.920
eyeshine, so that encounter actually took
place during the day, and it was

656
00:54:55.000 --> 00:55:00.199
actually the kid got close enough to
the sasquatch very a day. But the

657
00:55:00.280 --> 00:55:07.239
sasquatches the color the sasquatches eyes itself
were blue. It wasn't like a blue

658
00:55:07.320 --> 00:55:13.119
eyeshine, which I found very interesting
because most of the time when I hear

659
00:55:13.239 --> 00:55:17.599
of sasquatch reports during the day,
it's the eyes. If they do see

660
00:55:17.679 --> 00:55:22.519
them, they're mostly saying like,
oh, they were dark or they were

661
00:55:22.599 --> 00:55:30.519
black. As for the appearance of
sasquatch in that matter, I do believe

662
00:55:30.599 --> 00:55:37.360
that there are regional variants and a
lot of certain traits that might match other

663
00:55:38.599 --> 00:55:44.639
habitats where they're found. For example, down in Florida with the skunk gape,

664
00:55:45.039 --> 00:55:50.079
they're a little bit shorter. They
you know, typically are more like

665
00:55:50.199 --> 00:55:53.519
of a orangutang in that matter,
which I would think would do better in

666
00:55:53.599 --> 00:55:58.400
a tropical environment. And sometimes when
I hear with the skunk gape reports in

667
00:55:58.559 --> 00:56:04.079
sasquatch in that area, they have
thinner hair, which would match you know,

668
00:56:04.199 --> 00:56:07.440
the hotterer weather that they have down
there, versus the one that I

669
00:56:07.559 --> 00:56:13.599
saw. For example, it had
picker hair, but not to the point

670
00:56:13.679 --> 00:56:17.480
that it was almost like burr in
a way I could see like individual strands,

671
00:56:17.559 --> 00:56:24.440
but it is definitely enough hair on
the Sasquatch itself to have some insulation,

672
00:56:24.719 --> 00:56:30.119
which is much needed up here.
We get negative tempertures during the you

673
00:56:30.159 --> 00:56:36.119
know, winter time or at least
you know, in the teams for most

674
00:56:36.159 --> 00:56:38.800
of the winter, which would make
a lot of sense depending on you know,

675
00:56:38.960 --> 00:56:44.000
if it does move up and down
the Appalachian Trail to you know,

676
00:56:44.119 --> 00:56:49.400
go to warmer climates, which it
has been reported that a lot of reports

677
00:56:49.400 --> 00:56:53.639
are on the at But I do
think that it has to do a lot

678
00:56:53.719 --> 00:57:04.760
with inbreeding and the you know,
possibly them developing certain characteristics to match and

679
00:57:05.079 --> 00:57:09.480
thrive in the environment that they are
in. But for example, with mine,

680
00:57:10.440 --> 00:57:16.159
I did see the garitalia of the
sasasquestion. I saw it was definitely

681
00:57:16.199 --> 00:57:22.599
a male, but like the hair
like was grown like grown over in a

682
00:57:22.679 --> 00:57:28.800
way that was almost like a loincloth
because the extremities, you know, probably

683
00:57:28.840 --> 00:57:31.239
shouldn't been cold in that weather.
Same with the hands and like the fingers

684
00:57:31.599 --> 00:57:37.920
there was hair on that. With
that situation, maybe down south the thinner

685
00:57:37.320 --> 00:57:43.559
hair keeps some cooler versus up northern
hare. Yeah, it certainly makes sense,

686
00:57:43.599 --> 00:57:45.880
and that's one of the other things
that's always fascinated me about the subject

687
00:57:46.119 --> 00:57:51.079
is you know, people have talked
about I've had primatologist on the show.

688
00:57:51.119 --> 00:57:53.599
I've had biologist on the show,
and we've talked a little bit about if

689
00:57:53.639 --> 00:58:00.800
you take a highland gorilla or lowland
gorilla and you drop them in the Northwest

690
00:58:00.840 --> 00:58:04.639
where it gets down in the teens
or sometimes even colder, they're not going

691
00:58:04.679 --> 00:58:08.320
to survive there, right And exactly
so you talk, you know, Bergman's

692
00:58:08.400 --> 00:58:13.400
rule comes to mind, and the
ratio between the body surface weight and warm

693
00:58:13.440 --> 00:58:15.239
blooded animals, you know, closer
to the equator and this that or the

694
00:58:15.320 --> 00:58:20.320
other. If you just applied Bergman's
rule in the United States, what you're

695
00:58:20.360 --> 00:58:23.519
saying certainly makes sense to me.
But the thing that sort of sticks out

696
00:58:23.599 --> 00:58:28.280
for me and a lot of skeptical
people say the same thing that don't believe

697
00:58:28.400 --> 00:58:34.440
there's a giant bipedal ape black creature
walking around in North America, is how

698
00:58:34.519 --> 00:58:37.519
do they survive in those areas?
And I think you sort of to your

699
00:58:37.559 --> 00:58:42.800
point made some good comparisons with the
hair and the things that they're able to

700
00:58:43.320 --> 00:58:47.719
adapt and maybe that's, you know, why they have those certain characteristics that

701
00:58:47.800 --> 00:58:52.159
people describe, and that's why I
think it's so important for people to come

702
00:58:52.199 --> 00:58:57.199
forward and tell their stories because it
does sort of lend some credibility to Okay,

703
00:58:57.639 --> 00:58:59.920
I saw this thing and there was
snow on the ground and it was

704
00:59:00.199 --> 00:59:05.599
twelve degrees outside and it was doing
just fine. Right. But yeah,

705
00:59:05.679 --> 00:59:09.679
people describing the yetty, for example, in really cold temperatures, high elevations,

706
00:59:09.880 --> 00:59:14.840
and these things seem to be able
to adapt to that. And to

707
00:59:14.960 --> 00:59:19.079
your point, I think it's probably
the fact that they've adapted over years,

708
00:59:19.360 --> 00:59:22.400
and I think it's really a fascinating
part of the story. The blue eyes,

709
00:59:22.440 --> 00:59:27.719
for example, I've never heard anybody
describe that. I can recall blue

710
00:59:27.800 --> 00:59:30.199
eyes on one of these creatures because, like you said, most of the

711
00:59:30.280 --> 00:59:34.760
time it's dark eyes, or it's
even amber colored eyes or something like that,

712
00:59:34.880 --> 00:59:38.599
so it's a really or at night
for example, like I've never heard

713
00:59:38.639 --> 00:59:47.159
of blue eyeshine. It's either green, yellow or like the brick honoring red

714
00:59:47.400 --> 00:59:53.079
in a way that or red for
that matter, those are the only colors

715
00:59:53.119 --> 00:59:59.440
I ever hear and non scale topic
real quick, but especially with like different

716
00:59:59.519 --> 01:00:05.360
areas Sasquatch, I mean looking at
Sasquash over in the Northwest there, they

717
01:00:05.400 --> 01:00:08.599
seem to be a lot bigger to
the ones that we have over in the

718
01:00:08.719 --> 01:00:15.280
northeast and in the southeast. Stay
tuned for more Sasquatch o the sea moving

719
01:00:15.400 --> 01:00:22.760
right back after the east messages.
A little bit of a theory that I

720
01:00:22.880 --> 01:00:29.840
have look at the fauna that they
have over in you know, the Northwest,

721
01:00:30.199 --> 01:00:34.280
and like the animals and that's stuff, they're typically a lot larger.

722
01:00:34.440 --> 01:00:37.840
You got more bears out there for
the most part, especially up in Alaska.

723
01:00:38.199 --> 01:00:42.880
You have grizzly bears. In the
very northern regions, you have polar

724
01:00:42.920 --> 01:00:46.480
bears that you have caribou, elk. I mean, we have mouse over

725
01:00:46.599 --> 01:00:51.079
here, but a lot of the
animals and prey items that we have over

726
01:00:51.239 --> 01:00:54.719
here are like the white tailed deer, and up here we don't have like

727
01:00:55.039 --> 01:01:00.519
elk, you know, bison for
that matter, we don't have anything like

728
01:01:00.679 --> 01:01:05.119
that in the Northeast. And I've
noticed how a lot of the sasquatch reports

729
01:01:05.719 --> 01:01:10.079
say that they are smaller in size
and stature. They're not these big,

730
01:01:10.280 --> 01:01:17.400
hulking masses you might see over in
the Northwest. They're more like Patty and

731
01:01:17.559 --> 01:01:22.280
Patty was even you know, Patty
is known to be a female and a

732
01:01:22.440 --> 01:01:28.719
smaller size sasquatch at that I'm seeing
a lot more things like that over here

733
01:01:28.719 --> 01:01:32.360
in the Northeast and the South East
itself. It's definitely fascinating, and I

734
01:01:32.480 --> 01:01:37.599
think that the more stories we can
document where we have different types of these

735
01:01:37.719 --> 01:01:42.920
things being seen, I think we
put all of that data together and it

736
01:01:43.039 --> 01:01:47.199
sort of paints a picture and allows
us to sort of make comparisons from around

737
01:01:47.280 --> 01:01:51.840
the country. And again, like
you said, it would make sense that

738
01:01:52.079 --> 01:01:54.920
obviously prey animals are going to factor
into the size of these things, and

739
01:01:55.000 --> 01:02:00.280
they've got to adapt to what's around
them and what they can eat and the

740
01:02:00.360 --> 01:02:05.639
temperatures. Obviously, I think all
of that sort of goes into the bigger

741
01:02:05.760 --> 01:02:08.960
picture of what we're talking about when
it comes to sasquatch research. Let's talk

742
01:02:09.000 --> 01:02:13.239
a little bit about the group that
you formed. Let's talk about some of

743
01:02:13.320 --> 01:02:16.480
your research. You mentioned expeditions.
Let's talk about the group. What people

744
01:02:16.559 --> 01:02:20.599
can expect to find when they go
to the group and where can they find

745
01:02:20.679 --> 01:02:22.000
it. And you mentioned a YouTube
channel as well. Let's talk a little

746
01:02:22.039 --> 01:02:27.159
bit about that. Yeah, so, admittedly, right now I've been focusing

747
01:02:27.320 --> 01:02:31.960
more on like field work, and
you know, my career in general,

748
01:02:32.360 --> 01:02:37.599
more than my pages and all that
sort of stuff, my YouTube and all

749
01:02:37.679 --> 01:02:43.480
that. I am planning on focusing
on that a bit more, especially this

750
01:02:43.679 --> 01:02:49.079
year. But I I've gotten a
little bit of a group going on right

751
01:02:49.119 --> 01:02:52.920
now. As I said with an
Ancio Sasquatch, I have a couple of

752
01:02:53.000 --> 01:02:58.639
really good people that are around here, people that want to learn more about

753
01:02:58.719 --> 01:03:01.559
the topic. And I'm on an
expert by any means, but I will

754
01:03:02.360 --> 01:03:07.280
take them out in the field so
they can get their own idea of you

755
01:03:07.360 --> 01:03:12.679
know, sasquatch self, because I
no one's an expert in this field.

756
01:03:14.000 --> 01:03:15.639
I don't want to be the person
that's saying like, oh I know this

757
01:03:15.920 --> 01:03:22.199
and that this is wrong. There's
no body that it's been no researched by

758
01:03:22.280 --> 01:03:29.119
anybody yet, There's nothing that's concrete
and certain. There's only observations that we

759
01:03:29.239 --> 01:03:34.400
have. So my goal is to
get more and more people in the field

760
01:03:34.480 --> 01:03:38.639
itself, especially in the northeast Andy
Hampshire, because the only people that are

761
01:03:38.719 --> 01:03:46.519
around this area is squatch choosets,
but that's Western mass The more people that

762
01:03:46.639 --> 01:03:50.199
we have with boots on the ground, the more that we're going to find,

763
01:03:51.079 --> 01:03:57.920
the more that we're going to understand
and learn about these creatures. If

764
01:03:58.000 --> 01:04:00.719
we don't have people going out in
the field, we're not going to understand

765
01:04:00.800 --> 01:04:04.880
that. There's too many people that
are sitting at home, you know,

766
01:04:05.079 --> 01:04:09.960
that don't want to get their shoes
dirty, don't want to get their hands

767
01:04:10.000 --> 01:04:14.400
dirty for that matter, and just
want to come up with opinions on their

768
01:04:14.440 --> 01:04:18.480
own just by watching a couple of
videos or no offense to any of the

769
01:04:18.599 --> 01:04:28.000
listeners, but listen to a podcast
and develop opinions and facts about it their

770
01:04:28.039 --> 01:04:33.159
own truths and facts just by listening
and not experiencing it to themselves. So

771
01:04:33.440 --> 01:04:38.519
Brian Garvey and I we're going to
be focusing more on the YouTube this year,

772
01:04:39.599 --> 01:04:45.519
going to follow ups, you know, recording interviews with people. We're

773
01:04:45.559 --> 01:04:49.519
actually making a podcast of our own
called The Wood Devil Podcasts, paying homage

774
01:04:49.559 --> 01:04:57.920
to New Hampshire's own variation of sasquash
located up in Coos County the Canadian border,

775
01:04:58.360 --> 01:05:02.199
called the Wood Devil, which is
a different Sasquatch variation all its own.

776
01:05:03.119 --> 01:05:09.719
But we were really going to focus
on bringing some light to the Northeast,

777
01:05:10.599 --> 01:05:15.880
bringing some you know, ideas out
into the public eye and getting some

778
01:05:16.559 --> 01:05:21.159
you know, people on there that
have some pretty good ideas frankly, and

779
01:05:21.440 --> 01:05:27.320
some pretty good theories and putting those
to the test, testing out experiments,

780
01:05:27.559 --> 01:05:30.679
theories, all that, and we
just want to make it into a tangible

781
01:05:30.800 --> 01:05:35.800
reality for people. So this has
come up several times on the show recently,

782
01:05:35.880 --> 01:05:41.519
and I've sort of wrestled with this
myself. I guess ultimately, let's

783
01:05:41.599 --> 01:05:44.880
close out by just saying what the
ultimate goal for you is? Is it

784
01:05:45.039 --> 01:05:48.440
discovery for somebody like you who has
seen one of these things face to face,

785
01:05:49.119 --> 01:05:53.719
the foot castings and the foot track
the trackway that you guys found sort

786
01:05:53.760 --> 01:05:57.639
of laid aside all the doubt that
you even had for yourself after your siding.

787
01:05:58.239 --> 01:06:00.960
So is the ultimate goal for you
to take people out let them have

788
01:06:01.079 --> 01:06:05.960
those experiences, And is it ultimately
discovery for you or is it just the

789
01:06:06.480 --> 01:06:12.760
knowledge that these things exist and learning
more about them. So I don't think

790
01:06:13.119 --> 01:06:17.280
at least, you know, I
think we might be the generation or there's

791
01:06:17.280 --> 01:06:23.880
going to be possibly the discovery in
our lifetimes. I had to have my

792
01:06:24.000 --> 01:06:27.760
own ideas, you know, conservation
would be a big thing, especially the

793
01:06:27.840 --> 01:06:34.039
timber industry of Sasquatch are catalog as
a species but I don't think that there

794
01:06:34.159 --> 01:06:40.320
is going to be that sort of
discovery at least for a couple of years

795
01:06:40.599 --> 01:06:44.880
or a couple of decades. So
right now, I want to have people

796
01:06:45.000 --> 01:06:48.440
get out in the field, you
know, get their own ideas on the

797
01:06:48.519 --> 01:06:53.400
matter, you know, have it
shown to them like, hey, there

798
01:06:53.679 --> 01:06:58.239
is something out here. We shouldn't
be sitting there judging other people for that

799
01:06:58.480 --> 01:07:01.920
matter, especially up or in the
Northeast, and kind of normalize a topic

800
01:07:02.599 --> 01:07:06.960
because the more people that we have
that don't see it as a taboo,

801
01:07:08.719 --> 01:07:14.960
as a plausible concept and topic,
the more people and more information that we're

802
01:07:15.000 --> 01:07:18.639
going to have. I guess that's
more or less. More or less is

803
01:07:18.719 --> 01:07:24.519
my goal. To get the people
out in the woods, you know,

804
01:07:25.159 --> 01:07:30.360
stop looking at their phones, get
their hands dirty, to get their own

805
01:07:30.639 --> 01:07:35.440
evidence, own theories, and own
ideas, and if we happen to get

806
01:07:35.639 --> 01:07:41.679
to the point that of discovery,
it happens. And I think that's a

807
01:07:41.760 --> 01:07:44.960
great goal to have in mind.
For sure. Let's talk a little bit

808
01:07:44.960 --> 01:07:46.880
about that before we close out.
You mentioned it a couple of times,

809
01:07:47.519 --> 01:07:51.239
and I sort of think I may
know the answer because the subject in general,

810
01:07:51.440 --> 01:07:56.880
although it's a lot more mainstream nowadays
than it was maybe ten, fifteen,

811
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twenty years ago. Certainly, the
taboo that's surrounds Sasquatch in general,

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why do you think it's so permeates
the zeitgeist in the culture in that particular

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area where you guys are at in
New Hampshire. Do you think that's an

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anomaly from the rest of the Pacific
Northwest or do you think it's an anomaly

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for the rest of North America Or
is there something deep rooted in that area

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that you're aware of that maybe makes
it such a taboo subject for everybody to

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talk about. So a lot of
that I think stems from you still have

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a lot of the Native people up
in the north West, You have a

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lot of their culture, a lot
of you know, their ideas and all

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that sort of stuff. And to
them, South squatsh was just another,

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you know, just another race in
a way how we may see you know,

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other races besides you know, being
white, African, Asian, you

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know, Native, anything like that. That's how they saw it. So

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that normalization was is stronger over there. Over here, it's a lot of

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people that don't get out in the
woods, a lot of people that want

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don't want to accept beliefs other than
their own, specifically with the older generations.

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And when you take that and you
create that disliking and you take away

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the ideas of what it is possible, people aren't going to share, you

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01:09:33.239 --> 01:09:38.720
know, something that's different from the
norm. A lot of people up here

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01:09:38.880 --> 01:09:43.239
like to keep to themselves, and
for the most part, they tend to

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think similarly too, you know the
other person that in that case, I

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believe that we just need to get
you know, more people out just to

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01:09:55.840 --> 01:09:59.760
change that and kind of get back
that. Okay, it's just like another

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race of humans or another species just
to live alongside us. We have we

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have bears, we have animals that
fly around us, birds, all that

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sorp of stuff. What's so different
from something that is in the realm of

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near human I mean, we have
great apes jackiancl Picker gets Blackie. For

838
01:10:26.199 --> 01:10:29.840
that matter, it's in the fossil
record, and that is very similar to

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what a lot of people are seeing
a sasquatch. You have the proto humans

840
01:10:34.680 --> 01:10:42.439
that are coming out of Indonesia and
those areas the fossil records. You have

841
01:10:42.680 --> 01:10:46.159
so many things that are similar to
it. But since it was framed as

842
01:10:47.039 --> 01:10:51.840
a monster or a supernatural for that
matter. People are just going to say,

843
01:10:51.880 --> 01:10:56.680
oh, that's horseshit and just throwing
out the window before they can get

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their foods dirty, go out in
the woods and experience something themselves. The

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opinion is already formed, and I
want to attempt to get people to challenge

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their view and their take on reality. Very well, said Man. Well,

847
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Evan, I really appreciate you coming
on the show, sharing your experiences,

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sharing your stories, and sharing your
opinions on things. I really do

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appreciate it. I've had a blast
talking to you. Man, stay with

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me. I appreciate it. Thank
you for having me on. They say

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01:11:27.920 --> 01:11:36.560
you don't gotta go home, but
your just day. I don't want to

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01:11:36.720 --> 01:12:09.960
be well. Try this, try
and chime everything, calling bay Nay my

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01:12:10.239 --> 01:13:27.279
joy for me to stay right.
You call it right away. Unassassssssss us

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to us.