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What is krak lac in fellow thermonuclear
a efforts. I am dan Fa Valley

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coming at you solo today for a
little bit of trade deadline talk. If

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you are listening to this on your
podcast, feed this pre season episode that

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Grant and I did. If you're
watching it on YouTube, it's standalone and

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you can look for that episode with
Grant and I will be coming out on

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Tuesday. We will, however,
be covering the NBA trade deadline around these

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parts in earnest. It's Monday,
January eighth when this goes live. That's

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one month out from the twenty twenty
four NBA trade deadline. And I found

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a lot of the discourse fascinating this
year, and I think that we're shaping

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up for one what could be a
Bonker's NBA trade deadline, but what's going

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to be one of the more fascinating
NBA trade deadlines that we've seen. We

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had WOJ right before the old Janobi
trade say it could be a slow trade

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deadline. Then O g Anobi gets
traded. I believe it was before og

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got traded. That happens every year, not with just Wode specifically, but

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there are these warnings of there's gonna
be a lot of chatter no movement,

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and we've definitely had trade deadlines at
different scales, but every year there is

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some level of madness. Even if
it's not an All NBA type player being

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moved, we could have multiple of
those caliber players moved. This trade deadline,

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when you're looking at all NBA is
probably a stretch for everyone except Pascal

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Siakam, who's left been tearing it
up lately. By the way, Zach

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Lavine, All Star caliber player,
Larry Marketen, All Star caliber player,

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de Jontay Murray, kind of fringe
people are down on him, but that

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contract is super interesting. There can
also just be surprised names that crop up

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every year, and I'm intrigued for
so many reasons because you look at not

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just some of the names that are
out there, and there's this element of,

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Okay, well, what are the
Raptors doing? Are they going to

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move Siakam? I not that a
complete one to eighty on this. It

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just would not surprise me if the
plan is to keep him, because he's

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so good and what is the past. Like some of the trade packages that

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are being mentioned for Pascal Siakam just
blow my mind. This is someone who's

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gonna at bottom require multiple first round
picks, and probably a nice young player

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or useful veteran players, because the
Raptors don't look like they're going for that

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hard reset based off what they prioritized
in the og Ananobi return. I do

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expect, though this is not saying
that I think that no stars are gonna

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get moved. If I had to
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Zach Lavine, Pascal Siakam, I
would say at least one of those guys

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get moved. I would say Dejontay
Murray gets moved to if you don't consider

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him a star, that's fine.
And let's just not forget about some of

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the surprise players. When you go
through, there's always a team. It

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feels like that is just going to
shock us, whether they make this buy

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type of move or if they start
to sell. It's look Brooklyn hovering at

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ninth in the Eastern Conference as I
record this five games under five hundred,

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could they look at movie McHale bridges. If the offer is right, everyone

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expects Dorian Finney Smith or Royce O'Neill. Maybe Nick Classon gets involved with that.

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I just don't think we can rule
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the Rockets decide to move on from
Jalen Green, do the Thunder decide to

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look at Josh Giddy. This is
to me, though, what makes the

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trade deadline so fascinating this year is
we've now been so entrenched in the playing

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competitive landscape that by extension, there
are so many could be, would be

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should be might be actually are buyers. And that has basically been the case

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since the play in and started,
and we've tried to identify teams. Oh

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well, you know, let's use
as an example. Okay, the Jazz,

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I'm recording this. They're two losses
outside the plan and they are about

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to play through one of the most
brutal stretches of the year for any team.

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I think they could decide not to
make a move because why they have

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all the picks that they need.
And I think you're running into this with

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some of the other rebuilding teams.
I guess New Orleans and Oklahoma the Oklham

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save Thunder are not rebuilding. But
when you've gotten, in Utah's case,

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all these picks already and you have
some other future first rounders on the balance,

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if you're San Antonio there's not going
to be that urgency necessarily to sell,

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or you're a team like the Pistons
that's kind of stuck in this malaise

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and you don't really have Yeah,
you could really use extra first round equity,

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you don't have players who are gonna
get that by themselves. I don't

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know how much. Boyan Bgdonovich,
who is probably your best non core trade

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asset at this point, how much
is he going to fetch you. You

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probably need to stack players on top
of one another, or look at moving

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a Jade and Ivy if you wanted
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back. Yes, and so there's
that team like a Detroit where okay,

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they could sell, but how much
do they actually have to sell? That's

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going to complicate the trade deadline.
I think what's also going to be mega

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fascinating is you have these really good
player types Jeremy Grant in Portland, even

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though there's been messaging that Portland doesn't
want to move in, Portland would absolutely

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move him if he offers right.
Kyle Kuzman, Washington, that was a

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deal. It is declining in scale
moving forward. Was signed so they could

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trade. What is the line in
the sand going to be though, for

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those teams, are those sort of
mid end type of players going to get

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dealt on the same level as in
og Anobi's probably better than the Jeremy gran

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over og right now is probably yeah, I think that's right. But on

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that level of player, what's the
asking price going to be? Because you

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can set it and say, well, we want a first round pick and

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a young player or two first round
picks. Who's giving you that? That's

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what else makes this trade deadline incredibly
fascinating. Some of the teams that you

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would expect to be most aggressive,
or many of them like they're just pick

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poor. Milwaukee already played the Damian
Lillard card. The Lakers can only trade

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one first round pick. The Clippers
can only trade one first round pick and

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already acquired James Harden. You have
these teams at the top. Okay,

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Boston has all I think they have
first round picks that they could trade.

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They don't have all their own first
That was a stupid thing to say.

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They have first round picks that they
could trade. They have very little salary

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matching when they're mentioned for Kelly Olynik
or Chris Bousche, what's the money that's

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going out to get that if you're
not building some super complex deal with too

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many plays involved. They're not just
gonna trade Al Horford, who's still important

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to their team. They're not just
gonna trade Drew Holliday or Derek White,

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who who's been playing his ass off
this year. So that's a team that's

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probably gonna be a lot of other
teams might be more married to the buyout

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market await those certain players. You
can't sign in the buyout market if they

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make more than the current mid level
exception. You're not gonna be able to

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go to a team that's with inside
the first apron of the salary cap about

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seven million dollars over the luxury tax. Excuse me, That's what I meant.

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And so you have the top the
tippy top. But then there's also

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you look at the element of the
Clippers and if they're willing to move some

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players who are kind of important,
if they're not married to the Norm Powell

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salary, if they can attach that
first round pick to PJ. Tucker,

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they can actually make a pretty big
splash. And so are they going to

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play that card the Lakers, that
distant first round pick is intriguing. Are

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they gonna pull the lever of do
we go get Zacklovine? Is it somebody

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else? Is the Marta Rosen and
Alex Caruso the answer? And then that's

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gonna lead you to the other question, the existential questions for and I want

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to get into more of that the
Lakers warrior stuff. But the Bulls are

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mentioned as this. Let's the Bulls, The Raptors and the Hawks are all

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mentioned as these teams that are just
They could be wild sellers. They could

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both also go in the other direction. I don't think Chicago should, but

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we've seen a track record that they
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The Hawks been playing a little bit
better lately. They are going to

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be cash conscious. It looks like
they're open for business on anyone not a

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named Trey Young or Jalen Johnson.
So, yes, the very they could

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be the team that defines the deadline
if they move DeAndre Hunter and Clint Capella

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and Dejante Murray and bo Da Bardanovic. They could also be a team that

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talks themselves into okay, well,
you know we're still right there in the

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play in or the Bulls gonna fall
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We know the Raptors are already willing
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them do it just last season.
If you're gonna keep Pascal Siakam and you've

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acquired a manual quickly so you're gonna
pay, you've acquired RJ. Barrett,

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you owe that top six protected pick
to San Antonio this year, you could

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be a team that actually goes for
it. And so there's this very i

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would say unique push and pull,
maybe even on an existential level for so

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many of these teams that are trying
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I do think even if you believe
that this type of stuff exists out there

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every season, and there's definitely always
the surplus of buyers. The dynamic this

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season though, where it feels like
we're seeing a if not a changing,

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a shifting of the guard. Looking
at Minnesota and Oka see just blowing up

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the standings. And then also at
the bottom of that end where you have

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these teams that might be fading out. Golden State, for one, are

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they a team that kind of has
to decide They are a team that has

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to decide are we gonna go for
it now? Or do we just start

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leaning into the young kids, and
it's really time to start thinking about moving

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Draymond Green and Klay Thompson. I
can't imagine they would move Steph unless he

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asked for out. I would expect, just because that's how things go.

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Win this situation, they will inevitably
favor the immediate timeline. But then what

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does that mean? Yeah, you
could say, okay, Johnathan can make

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a gun, Moses Moody gone,
but is Andrew Wiggins gone? Are they

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gonna move Chris Paul following his fractured
hand. He's out four to six weeks,

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by the way, still an expiring
contract that could be used in moves.

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I think it probably makes it more
likely that he's moved now that he's

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injured than it was before, to
be quite honest with you, just because

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they don't have four to six weeks
to buy this time. That's the trade

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deadline at that point. And unless
you believe that Okay, well Draymond will

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still be on the court at that
point. Maybe Clay continues to play better

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on the offensive end, we could
make a run as is. I don't

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see it. They could just go
the other route that where we're really gonna

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lean into the kids and this kind
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We're seeing it with the Lakers right
now, where I think probably too

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much of the blame is hauling on
dartin Ham. I don't love the personnel

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that they have there to begin with. Could they make a coaching change.

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We know they're not going to all
of a sudden start selling, but then

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what is the buy move that they
do? How all in do they go?

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Do they give up that twenty nine
or twenty thirty first round pick?

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And who's it for? Do they
view Demarta Rosen is worth that even though

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I think functionally he's not a great
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Do they roll the dice on zach
Lavine, whose salary structure certainly complicates things

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for that moving forward. Or is
there an opportunity out there that's not being

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discussed or one that's been tangentially discussed. We mentioned it, We were way

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ahead of this on the podcast,
saying it's only a matter of time before

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they register interests in Deshontay Murray.
They entered the Deshontai Murray sweepstakes. I

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can't remember who reported it, but
that was like a week ago. Or

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a few days ago that it was
mentioned, and so they're going to be

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another wildcard team then everyone then you
just have your normal it's you know,

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the contenders, the good teams that
are going to be looking to make upgrades.

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However marginal. You know, we
mentioned Boston or Milwaukee. What can

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they actually do? Can Milwaukee get
a point of attack defender? How much

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does Dennis Smith Junior cost? Can
they get a flyer on Davion Mitchell depending

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on what the Kings want for him. But beyond them, though, the

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Sixers are sitting here with these assets, Joel Embiid is injured, Tyrese Maxi's

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on this meteoric rise. They have
a need for either another ball handler or

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wing type. I don't think they're
gonna go all in mid season. That

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just doesn't feel like Darryl Moury's style
at this point because of the cat flexibility

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he's about to have this summer.
But they could do something they could do

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so they could straddle that line.
Yeah, maybe it's a low end acquisition

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or where they're just trying to it's
someone who's on expiring contract. They're using

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some of their middle end salaries below
the Danfy meltains here to step out of

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their way to get somebody, or
do they do something in the middle.

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They've been mentioned for de Jontay Murray, not a fit that I particularly love.

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And we look at these teams team
like the Knicks who just acquired O

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Gianninobi, which one opens up different
avenues for them to now try because they

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do need another ball handed to or
a creation. That's why Jeanta Murray's being

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mentioned so much. I'll aduce McBride
the other night in Philly was basically like,

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yeah, fuck you, that's not
happening. They're a team that could

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still do something pretty sizable and they're
going to be buying. Then there are

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these teams that I feel like the
Pacers, the magic teams that people want

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to buy or to make that move
to get the magic shooting, to get

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the Pacers a combo winger forward.
By the way, I am warming up

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to the idea of Pascal Siakam in
Indiana more and more. I don't know

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if that displeases Pacers fans or not. I've been more so they need to

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s Q three four. I'm kind
of just to the point where I look

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at them. It'd be really nice
to have that secondary creator or second creator

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just to call it. In the
playoffs, and Pascal Siakam, for all

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his flaws, he's shown he can
do that before. I'm warming up to

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that idea. But are they gonna
give up enough to get him from Toronto?

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Because you're not gonna get stuff without
giving up stuff. And then there

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are these other Oklahoma City you could
throw in the Pacers, Magic Tier two.

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Everyone they're second in the West.
Everyone wants them to make a trade.

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They can do whatever they want.
They could do nothing just because they've

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been playing so well. They could
do something that's kind of on the margins

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where it's, oh, well,
like Trey Man and Poku, they're not

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gonna be around here, so we'll
just sort of flip them, roll them

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into seconds or whatever we could get. They could do something on the middle

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end of the spectrum. I think
they're a team that should at least think

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about this is not my first move
for them, they should least think about

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to Jante Murray, where if you
move Giddey's minutes to Murray's minutes, he

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is a better off ball fit,
he's a better defender. You lose rebounding,

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you do lose some playmaking there.
I think that they need the creation

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shock creation in the playoffs more as
good as their half court offense has been

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this season. And that's somebody who
doesn't cost you the whole kit and kaboodle.

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I don't even know if he costs
you Josh Giddy. Quite frankly,

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I would not, And by the
way, I would keep kase A while

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it's over Josh Giddy at this point, if he came down to it.

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They're also a team that could just
do They could go all in, but

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they won't. It's not even worth
mentioning. I don't know where Larry Marketing

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falls on that end of the spectrum
for them. That's someone who I love

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for O casing, and that's not
really unique. That's been said a bunch

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at this point. I could also
see them being the team that you're sort

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of rolling your Damas Breton's salary into
another salary that you can then move over

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the offseason or try and rehabilitate.
Is it John Collins, there's two years

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left on his deal after this one. I mentioned Lonzo ball is a joke.

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Just as the Bulls were looking to
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starting to run again. I don't
think you get you'll acquire him with the

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intention of him being a part of
your team. But if you just take

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a flyer on Lonzo Ball so you
have that expiring money into next season that

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you can then use in a trade, that is something that that would be

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very much on Okac's level. Minnesota
doesn't have a ton, but I've started

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to think if you start baking in
pick swaps along with Leonard Miller's generating a

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lot of buzz from what he's done
in the G League, and you do

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have some salary matching tools in Kyle
Anderson, Shake, Milton Nikhil, Alexander

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Walker, guys who are making more
of the minimum. Are you willing to

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move off of nas Reed if you're
that married to the Karl Anthony Towns,

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ready go Barrettier as I think it
was Dane Moore had mentioned this read after

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what I thought was a terrific start, has not been as good defensively this

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season, So are you willing to
look at moving him to go get in

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service of another shot creator, point
guard type to help manage your offense when

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Anthony Edwards is off the floor,
Maybe just to pair with Anthony Edwards in

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certain moments if you don't think Mike
Commley's always going to be an answer who

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By the way, Mike Conley's going
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Minnesota. I don't know what the
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if I'm in Atlanta, I'm hanging
up the phone just because I don't think

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this is enough. But if you
start putting Minnesota's best possible offer on the

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table, where it's Leonard Miller,
are you intrigued by Wendell Moore or Josh

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might not? And some of these
pick swops, and then it's getting these

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lower cost salaries, some of which
are coming off the books, like a

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Dejontay Murray trade for them, or
a boat down Magdonovitch trade for them,

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if they could swing it, just
like to get that guy in there.

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I don't know if Minnesota would look
at it as well, then we just

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have six starters. If you're getting
a type of Bugdanovitch is an easier sell

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off the bench. But if it's
de Jontay Murray and all of a sudden

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you have Kat Gobert Murray and and
Conley and Jade McDaniels, it's a lot

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of a lot of players, but
you could fiddle with your closing lineup,

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especially given how just oh Jade McDaniels
this season has been. He's he's dealt

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with injuries. So the Nuggets,
they're not. I wouldn't expect them to

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do anything because they're so married to
this youth movement and they're just they're gonna

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be so good when it matters most. It's like they're a team which you

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look at, Okay, we know
what they're gonna do with the trade deadline.

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Uh, it's kind of diddo for
just like the Charlotte the Charlotte Hornets,

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they might trade Terry Rozier, they
might trade Gordon Hayward, but nothing

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of like super constants one way or
the other for them. That might be

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underestimating the season terror Zie has had, though, what's the asking price for

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him? That falls into that mid
end of well, what does it cost

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to get Kuzma? What does it
cost to get Jeremy Grant there My guess

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would be, if we don't see
at least two of marketing Levine Siakam Murray

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traded and plus plus surprise star X, we're gonna see a lot of the

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Kuzma level Jeremy Grant level terror Rozier
type moves, because there are teams out

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there that just need that extra leg
And I think that the lack of sellers

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almost increases the likelihood, or not
even just the lack of sellers, the

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lack of clarity on who is going
to sell and which of the should be

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buyers will actually buy. Again,
I'm referencing the Magic the Thunder. How

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aggressive will a team like the Timberwolves
be or the Clippers be just because they

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have some assets? How aggressive are
the Kings going to be? They have

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very clear needs or two They've been
mentioned to Siakam. They they were the

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favorites, and then an hour and
a half later they weren't. They were

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facing the Raptors that night. That's
how those things work. Can they get

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in on some wing defense or additional
point of attack defender who doesn't shrink the

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floor for you offensively, or a
big who protects the rim but it's also

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a good offensive fit up around some
bonus. I don't know who I just

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described, maybe Chris Bouchet. I
feel like I'm contractually obligated to mention him.

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There are so many unanswered questions here, Even like the Houston Rockets could

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be buyers, and I could be. They're probably buyers because they're they're worried

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about the here and now. And
they've been so good at home this year,

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where they fifteen and six at home
this season, and they did just

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beat they did just beat the Bucks. That's a different story. They're another

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team that could buy. And so
you look at these conferences and in the

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East there are twelve teams, the
one seed through right now, the twelve

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seed, which is the Toronto Raptors. Those are all teams that can talk

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themselves into buying. And then you're
in the West, and I think it's

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one through eleven for sure can talk
themselves into buying. The Lakers are eleventh

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right now, but the Jet the
Grizzlies are thirteenth. They're kind of a

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wildcard here. They have their own
first round picks, they have some mid

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end salaries. If they want to
get in for just a stop gap big

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who's also higher impact, maybe on
an expiring contract or a contract they don't

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mind footing the bill in tandem with
Steven Adams end or Brandon Clark next season,

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they can go after that. We
know they need a wing. We

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know they could still use shooting,
even though Lukenard is back in the lineup.

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They're a team that, yeah,
the record doesn't show it, and

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they're probably just gonna wind up in
the plane. They were eight losses out

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of sixth place right now, and
so the playing is their best bet.

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But they're all about the now anyway. It's not gonna change if they don't

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make a trade there. So you
might as well get in on sweepstakes of

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players you believe would be good fits
beyond this season as well. And so

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I would say between the Jazz,
I would say, it's just the Jazz,

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the Blazers, and the Spurs.
We just know that they're not gonna

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buy except oh wait, the Spurs
could kind of use a four general and

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Trey Jones and Wenby prove that I
feel like eighty times a game. Maybe

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could they just decide to get in
on the Tias Jones sweepstakes something like that,

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Like could they come in and scoop
up one of these players that Tias

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Jones is not someone you're banking to
reach the buyout market, but if you're

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a contender, maybe you're looking to
see if THELN Wrights can reach the buyout

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market. Or the spur just come
and swoop in and say, hey,

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this fills the need. We have
some contracts that fit it. The cost

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is so low, let's go get
him. They could sneak in there and

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do that. Utah could do that. I say that they're not going to

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be definitively buyers, but I would
also advocate if the price is right,

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they should be in on de Jontey
Murray. That's a name that makes a

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lot of sense for them. They
could also be sellers. And so this

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uncertainy, I think is going to
make for a very interesting dynamic that is

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going to clash and what it all
leads to to get at the To wrap

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up the thesis of this argument,
there is going to be in my mind,

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I won't identify it. Maybe I'll
throw out a couple scenarios here.

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There is going to be anywhere between
one to like three or four firework moves

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that I just don't think we saw
coming. And I'm not saying fireworks need

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to be Oh, the Pelicans traded
Zion Williamson, another team that should be

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buying by the way, they've decided, well Brandinger was playing so well a

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Zion such a health risk even though
he's played well at points. We have

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all these lineup data that says we're
great like this. I'm not saying it's

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gonna be a movie. I wouldn't. I wouldn't bet on that. But

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there's going to be just something someone
we didn't see coming, or there's going

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to be a team that's forced into
a decision that it otherwise wouldn't necessarily have

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made because one maybe the offer is
just too good since there is a lack

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of sellers, or they just lose
so much ground. Golden State is like

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a perfect example here. We know
the Lakers are what do they have to

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sell? They're not unless Anty Davis
Lebron James requests of trade, they're not

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going anywhere. The Warriors are a
wildcard in that instance, just like the

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Hawks or the Raptors, as much
as the Bulls or the Nets, even

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though and there's just there's there's layers
to the wildcard status here too. Wendell

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Carter Junior in Orlandos he expendable because
Gogo Ptadze Movagner exists apparently, and he

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was banged up this season, hasn't
had the greatest season overall. Like that,

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that's not a that doesn't count as
a selling move. But Wendell Carter

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Junior is a player that would log
a ton of minutes for a bunch of

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teams, teams that might actually want
him. And so that's someone who can

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both shift the landscape a little bit. And it's just a name that we're

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not throwing around there in the mainstream
that much. The mainstreamish guy that I

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will be watching just because now OG's
off the board, and there's so many

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teams that need this player and he
provides more from scratch scoring is Michel Bridges.

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If they don't move him, I
think we're either gonna hear reports that

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they had these what was it,
four first round picks slash year for him.

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It wouldn't surprise me if there's more
than that on the table the rumor

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is, however accurate it is,
or did they decide to get involved in

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the Pascal Siakam sweepstakes themselves or maybe
even de Jante Murray to get another creator

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in there. This trade deadline is
a lot of teams, a lot of

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fan bases will be unhappy as always
because you're you know, if you're a

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Kings fan, if you're a Pacers
fan, you're gonna be linked to players

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and you're either not gonna get those
players, or maybe you don't do anything

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like even on the I'm a big
advocate of just a Jay Shawn Tate in

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Sacramento could make a world of difference, or even an Alex Caruso. You

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might not even make that type of
a move. If you're the Kings,

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it just might not be out there
and you're not You're gonna be very selective

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about your all in moves. That's
why I'm leary about the Siakam fit.

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From a talent perspective. If the
Raptors don't want to move, I'm sure

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do it, especially if you think
he's gonna stick around. But then you're

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using your best assets on not filling
enough of your biggest needs in that scenario,

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and that creates some awkwardness moving forward. And I think you could look

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legitimately at twenty five teams in the
league and make a case for them to

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just be wild cards at the deadline, and the number might even be higher

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than that. The knownes for me
are Charlotte. They will sell Hayward Rosier.

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Maybe if Martin comes in, picks
up Cody Martin. There's Washington,

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just everyone except for Block cool Bali
should be open for business. I'd love

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to see a good team steal Denny
Avia. I know we just signedn extension,

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but poison pill. If you're not
in the luxury tax anymore, working

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around the poison pill isn't as difficult
via trade. But anyone not name Blockqule

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Bali is like not going to be
bolted down at this point. So Charlotte

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and Washington and that's it. In
the East where it's like, I mean,

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Miami's a wildcard to me where they
won't sell. But I could just

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picture them doing nothing. I could
also just picture them doing something huge,

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like we've all been waiting on if
the right name becomes available there. And

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then in the West, I would
skew towards San Antonio is gonna continue to

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play a conservative and they're more likely
to look at what can we take on

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some additional money if we're gonna trade
Doug McDermott or Jedti Osmond's expiring contract or

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those just buyout candidate guys. I
mean, even if they go out and

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get a flour generals, it's sort
of like a young second or third draft

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guy rather than investing assets in a
tie show, so they're gonna be sellers

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or just Stan Patters. I think
Portland maybe they're wildcard in the sense,

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would they consider moving Matis Stible,
Would they consider moving Anthony Simons? Will

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they move Jeremy Grant? But it's
pretty clearly they're in a stage in their

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development where it's, yeah, they're
gonna entertain offers. They're not going out

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there where I'm talking about the Jazz, who I would use a wildcard,

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or even the Grizzlies where they're not
gonna do These are teams that are probably

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not gonna make any noise in the
playoffs with the player or whatever. But

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they are still in Utah, and
Memphis could say, well, we like

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these players long term and they're gonna
help us a lot. Now we're gonna

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go get them just because we have
the assets to do it. Portland's not

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that team, that buying type team. So San Antonio, Portland, Washington,

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Charlotte. The end did like,
I don't know what the fuck to

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expect from Detroit. They should be
sellers, but I'm also not super impressed

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with what they have to sell off. Maybe another team wants to take a

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flyer on James Wiseman. There was
I can't remember it was an OKC fan

402
00:24:30,599 --> 00:24:33,799
in our mentioned or no, it
was a Memphis fan. I really want

403
00:24:33,799 --> 00:24:36,319
to take a flyer on James Wiseman
in the YouTube comments and said like,

404
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:37,960
what if we gave up a first? Please don't give up a first for

405
00:24:38,039 --> 00:24:41,960
James Wiseman. That was I appreciate
the optimism and the faith in him,

406
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:47,119
but damn. So there are four
teams that I think you look at and

407
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,640
say, well, we know kind
of the general idea of what they're going

408
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,640
to do, and even Portland might
just be a stretch there because they have

409
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:57,039
I would say no fewer than three
players that other good teams would really want

410
00:24:57,079 --> 00:25:00,880
every Signmon' is just one of the
most under players. Think even when you

411
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,440
look at his contract, Oh he's
the cacambo guard who's really only this pure

412
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,640
score. Okay, no shit,
He's making under twenty percent of the salary

413
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,359
cap or whatever it is, and
he can shoot the lights out, and

414
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:14,079
I think his passing has gotten better
over the past couple of years. That's

415
00:25:14,079 --> 00:25:15,559
a player that that teams the human
fit on a lot of teams, you

416
00:25:15,559 --> 00:25:21,119
mentually have an Orlando What do Orlando
look like with Anthony Simon's Uh, they

417
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:22,640
have Jeremy Grant, they have Laties
Tible. Those are just some of the

418
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:27,000
names that have that have circled.
I cannot wait to go through the next

419
00:25:27,039 --> 00:25:32,240
month. And to me, it's
it's less about the rumors that we hear

420
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:33,920
and more and this is always the
case, but it's more about what actually

421
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:38,319
happens, because there could be a
huge discrepancy between what teams are doing and

422
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,160
what they reported to do. And
Toronto would be a perfect example, and

423
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,319
we saw it last year. Where
are they gonna sell? No, they

424
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,640
bought, And there could just be
more instances of that or the flip side

425
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:52,279
of well, more teams than normal
could be convinced to sell. I'm looking

426
00:25:52,279 --> 00:25:57,200
at the Warriors just kind of short
circuiting their dynasty error aging out. I'm

427
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:02,720
looking at the that's not really a
great team. I'm looking at the so

428
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:07,440
the Warriors of surprise sellers. Maybe
maybe that's the Hawks. I guess that

429
00:26:07,559 --> 00:26:11,000
we already know that they're sellers.
But could we see the nets? The

430
00:26:11,039 --> 00:26:14,440
nets for sure are gonna be up
there. Uh. And none of this

431
00:26:14,559 --> 00:26:15,359
to say a thing. Some people
like, well, what about Cleveland and

432
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:19,279
Donvan Mitchell. That's just I can't
picture that happening this season, and I

433
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,799
just wouldn't do it if I was
Cleveland either, quite frankly, but when

434
00:26:23,799 --> 00:26:27,799
you have teams that might be convinced
who part with players they otherwise wouldn't because

435
00:26:27,839 --> 00:26:30,880
the market just dictates, like,
all right, well that's the way it

436
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,079
crumbles. It also just went shoping
we see more young players kind of moved

437
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:37,119
in advance of their next contracts,
where it's no, you keep these guys,

438
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:38,279
so they signed their next contract,
you figure it out after that.

439
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,160
Josh Giddy, Jalen Green, none
of those are dudes that would shock me

440
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,839
if they just got moved to the
deadline. I guess Giddy a little bit

441
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:51,440
because it's because it's Oklahoma City,
and so this trade deadline has the chance

442
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,799
to be one of the more interesting
ones that we've seen. Even if I

443
00:26:53,799 --> 00:26:56,599
would say, right now, based
on the realistic names that are available,

444
00:26:56,599 --> 00:27:00,880
Pascal Siakam is the best player that
could get moved. Let's say he doesn't

445
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,279
get moved. Let's say Zach Kelvine
doesn't get moved. Let's also say de

446
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,160
Jontay Maury and Larry Market and don't
get moved, and let's say Michel Bridges

447
00:27:07,319 --> 00:27:11,200
stays put. Just me mentioning those
names is probably gonna disappoint people. There's

448
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,319
still gonna be a ton of movement. There's still gonna be a lot of

449
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,359
unforeseen moves. There's still gonna be
teams going for it that we didn't expect

450
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:18,839
to go for it. Even I
it's not with this season in mind,

451
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,680
which is where maybe a Memphis comes
in. It could shit could be where

452
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,720
the Lakers or the Warriors come in
at this point. It's certainly where the

453
00:27:26,799 --> 00:27:30,160
Jazz would come in there and get
maybe the Spurs just back their way into

454
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:34,279
this. And so I would just
caution anyone one the rumor stuff is just

455
00:27:34,759 --> 00:27:37,480
please try and keep in mind like
where the information might be coming from.

456
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,480
And if you're not seeing people on
the regular report and they're all of a

457
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,920
sudden reporting now, like I under
if you want to dunk on them,

458
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,319
quote, tweet them, or make
screenshot and make fun of it, I

459
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:48,480
totally get it, but you don't
need to read into it. Just because

460
00:27:48,519 --> 00:27:53,920
we're so desperate for slot this time
of year. I would just brace for

461
00:27:55,079 --> 00:28:00,200
chaos and the unexpected is all that's
not like super sourced information. I would

462
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,400
call it an educated guess, and
maybe I'll be wrong, because I'm wrong

463
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,359
all the time, and I'll come
on in a minute, but this is

464
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,640
going to be a wild, wacky, potentially bonkers deadline, which is fun.

465
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:11,920
I know some people don't like the
transaction side of this game, but

466
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:17,839
it is part of this league and
it's a huge driver when it's engagement and

467
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,319
fan interest. Does that speak to
the league's value of educating fans enough to

468
00:28:21,319 --> 00:28:23,319
where they're interested in the basketball being
played. I would argue that we're at

469
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:27,240
a point where, yes, some
of the mainstream stuff is annoying and tired,

470
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:33,279
but platforms are often given to the
loudest people, and they're going to

471
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:34,759
have some of the biggest platforms,
which is just why they're so loud in

472
00:28:34,759 --> 00:28:38,039
the first place, because they're right
in front of your face. I think

473
00:28:38,039 --> 00:28:41,079
that there actually is a pretty good
balance when you're looking at the educated basketball

474
00:28:41,119 --> 00:28:45,400
fan on social media who cares about
the x's and o's and really wants to

475
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,359
get into the nitty gritty of the
the forty five angle cuts and things of

476
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,480
that nature. But we are in
the transaction part of the season, and

477
00:28:52,519 --> 00:28:56,160
so even if you're want even if
you're inclined to make fun of people who

478
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,319
care about the trade stuff, and
I try to care about everything. I

479
00:28:59,359 --> 00:29:02,119
will say some of my favorite analysis
and podcasts to do. I think I

480
00:29:02,119 --> 00:29:04,519
have mentioned this before. It's not
so much I like reacting to rumors is

481
00:29:04,559 --> 00:29:10,359
fine. I love trying to fit
pieces together after we know that they're together,

482
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:11,559
where it's out, does og fit
on the knicks or quickly on the

483
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,960
raptors after those trades go down.
That's some of my favorite analysis to do.

484
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,599
I like trades. I like trade
rumors. I'm not sorry. I

485
00:29:18,599 --> 00:29:22,759
also like watching basketball, believe it
or not. I like also the stories

486
00:29:22,759 --> 00:29:25,880
that go beyond the basketball, where
things that are happening off the court.

487
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,720
Where was it, who was it? Kelly olynnok or who is it?

488
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:32,119
From the Jazz Just recently they rescued
a dog or something. There was that

489
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:36,200
fun story from Andy Larson. So
this is a wild time of year.

490
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:41,160
Proceeded with caution. But my advice
is a cliche, is that embrace for

491
00:29:41,279 --> 00:29:45,440
what you're not prepared to embrace,
whether it's a team traveling in a certain

492
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,400
direction or just players that I haven't
even named, Like I think people aren't

493
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:52,519
mentioning Mchael Bridges only in sort of
these off handic comments. I'm thinking even

494
00:29:52,519 --> 00:29:56,640
outside that box where it's just name
the player, it's yes there, there

495
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,599
are maybe like ten to fifteen actually
untouchable, way more than that who are

496
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,480
uber likely to be moved. But
like I'll use the Nix as an example,

497
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:08,559
I wouldn't predict it. Julius Rando
could be trade like that is something

498
00:30:08,559 --> 00:30:11,319
that could actually happen. I wouldn't
predict it mid season just based off the

499
00:30:11,359 --> 00:30:15,160
way he's playing. How much they
do need a shock creation now following the

500
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,200
a manual quickly trade. But you
also don't know who's coming back in that

501
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:22,640
perspective type of deal or what they're
planning on doing, as if they're step

502
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,519
laddering their way to something different.
But that's all I have on the trade

503
00:30:26,559 --> 00:30:30,519
inline. If you've not done so
already, please like like this video on

504
00:30:30,599 --> 00:30:33,440
YouTube subscribe at the sub button join
us. I would discord the links in

505
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,039
the podcast and YouTube description as well. If you're not subscribing on Apple or

506
00:30:37,079 --> 00:30:41,519
Spotify, do that leave us ratings
and reviews across Apple and then Spotify let

507
00:30:41,519 --> 00:30:44,960
you leave ratings. Help drive that
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508
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,960
on the charts, and that should
help other people find us as we continue

509
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,160
to grow this community. Grant,
I put a lot of effort into this

510
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,039
podcast, into providing content. This
is like, this is seven days a

511
00:30:53,039 --> 00:30:56,079
week thing. When you look at
for both of us, when you look

512
00:30:56,079 --> 00:30:59,440
at the content planning that we're talking, I don't know you know how many

513
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:00,720
of our listeners we're listening to our
long form content, know how much of

514
00:31:00,799 --> 00:31:03,519
the effort that I'm putting into like
the shorts and the clips that go up

515
00:31:03,519 --> 00:31:07,640
to try and drawing new viewers and
hopefully summer you were converting to the to

516
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,079
the longer form content. We do
a thorough job. We're fun as hell,

517
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:17,160
personable as hell. I would argue
humble as hell, even though I

518
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,839
think that's the antithesis of me saying
that we're fun as hell, and then

519
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:23,000
humble as hell is probably and is
like the opposite of humility. But whatever.

520
00:31:23,119 --> 00:31:26,039
But now listen to me and Grant
just ramble on and on about a

521
00:31:26,039 --> 00:31:30,519
bunch of fun shit. We're onto
stat padding this week. We're gonna punt

522
00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:34,519
on guess a player for this week. We will have it back next week,

523
00:31:34,559 --> 00:31:38,480
but we need to get it's wait
my time pretty early for me though,

524
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,880
still, but like we need to
get granted standing. And it's been

525
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:45,839
basically two hours over two hours when
you consider our our pre production meeting.

526
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:51,519
Yeah, you don't like to over
use the word hero but I think we

527
00:31:51,599 --> 00:31:55,720
probably not all heroes were capes,
but Grant is wearing one right now,

528
00:31:55,759 --> 00:31:59,519
so some of them still do.
That's right. What do you have for

529
00:31:59,559 --> 00:32:02,559
me with with Staffe? You want
to talk about some twenty five point quarters?

530
00:32:04,119 --> 00:32:08,039
How about that? I don't know
what prompted this, but we're gonna

531
00:32:08,039 --> 00:32:12,640
go with it here. So,
uh, Dan, the topic is twenty

532
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:19,440
five point quarters this season? I
think, Oh yeah, okay, tell

533
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,920
me who among these players has had
a twenty five point quarter this year?

534
00:32:22,839 --> 00:32:30,480
Joel Embiid, Jason Tatum, Pascal
Siakam or Anthony Simons. All right,

535
00:32:30,519 --> 00:32:38,839
so Joel Embiid, Pascal Siakam,
Anthony Simons, and Jason Tatum Joel Embiid,

536
00:32:39,119 --> 00:32:44,119
correct. And by the way,
what I will what I will also

537
00:32:44,799 --> 00:32:49,400
inform you of is that every single
player I mentioned has that has had at

538
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,039
least a twenty point quarter. So
these are all, like you'll probably remember,

539
00:32:52,079 --> 00:32:54,680
some of them at some point from
the course of the year. Okay,

540
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,599
you're one for one who's had the
twenty five point quarter this season?

541
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:06,519
Luka, Doncic, Daron Fox,
Keegan Murray, LaMelo Ball. Oh my

542
00:33:06,599 --> 00:33:14,960
god, uh Keegan Murray. That's
right, he had a thirty point quarter.

543
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:16,279
I think he was like eight of
eight from three or something. This

544
00:33:16,359 --> 00:33:19,960
is the game he set the right
I don't remember that. I don't know

545
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:24,400
you're because you're East Coast bias.
Probably uh if the game was probably podcasting

546
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,759
at the time. Yeah, well
there's a good chance that's true. All

547
00:33:28,839 --> 00:33:30,599
right, let's see, I'm trying
to how about this one, Uh,

548
00:33:30,759 --> 00:33:36,720
Tyr's Halliburton, de Jontay Murray,
Karris Lavert or Trey Young, who's had

549
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,400
a twenty five point quarter this season. I would appreciate it if you would

550
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:43,400
refer to him as future New York
Nick de Jontay Murray from now on.

551
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,559
Now I will is that your guests. No, I already forgot the name

552
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:52,359
Jeante Murray, Trey Young, Karris
Lavert, Tyres Haliburton. I'm just gonna

553
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,519
I feel like this is wrong,
but I'm just gonna say Tyr's Haliburt You're

554
00:33:55,559 --> 00:33:59,839
so right, Tam. And not
only does he have he's the only guy

555
00:33:59,839 --> 00:34:04,119
with two twenty five point quarters on
the season. Tyr's got a twenty five

556
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,320
and a twenty six. Let's see
last one who's had a twenty five point

557
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:14,599
quarter this season? Alprin Shangoon,
Donovan Mitchell, McHale Bridges, or I

558
00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:16,480
have a Robinson here who I can't
remember. I think it's Duncan Robinson.

559
00:34:16,679 --> 00:34:20,840
It's not gonna be Duncan Robinson.
I'm gonna say it's not Duncan Robinson.

560
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:28,679
So Donovan Mitchell, Alprin, Shangouon, McHale Bridges or Robinson Robins, Adamy,

561
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:34,199
Duncan Mitchell Robinson. I doubt it
twenty rebounds. Maybe I'm gonna say

562
00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:37,599
Donovan Mitchell incorrect, Michal Bridges had
a twenty six point quarter this season?

563
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,880
All right? I want to be
that's You're such an afterthought for me right

564
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:45,480
now. Just maybe one of the
teams I watched the least in the league.

565
00:34:45,559 --> 00:34:50,159
Sorry, sorry nets fans, just
not that interesting this year. Okay,

566
00:34:50,559 --> 00:34:53,320
how about this? This is prompted
by Tyrys Haliburton, who we mentioned

567
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:59,039
a minute ago. He's had a
couple of twenty twenty games recently twenty points

568
00:34:59,039 --> 00:35:04,440
twenty assists. Naturally, he's had
two of them this year, so forget

569
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,280
the points. If he has one
more twenty assist game, he will be

570
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,800
in rare territory with seven others who've
had three twenty assist games in a season.

571
00:35:12,519 --> 00:35:15,840
Okay, only seven guys have ever
had three or more twenty assist games

572
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,639
in a season. I'm gonna give
you four names. You got to tell

573
00:35:19,679 --> 00:35:22,679
me who's had at least three twenty
assist games in a season. Are there?

574
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,519
You gonna see how many I could
get off? Rip Ooh, would

575
00:35:25,519 --> 00:35:30,039
you like to do that? I'll
do it all right, I'll give you

576
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,920
strikes. You've got it. You've
got seven guys that have done it,

577
00:35:34,119 --> 00:35:39,800
three twenty assist games in a single
season. Chris Paul incorrect, Fuck,

578
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:46,639
he's had two. Uh, John
Stockton correct, He's got like several of

579
00:35:46,679 --> 00:35:51,480
them. One of he leads he's
all time number one because he's had ten

580
00:35:51,519 --> 00:35:55,000
in a season. That's the most
anyone's ever had. You're like, I'll

581
00:35:55,039 --> 00:35:58,440
save this one because I think it's
wrong and I don't want two strikes right

582
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:05,599
now. Mark Jackson, no strike
two my life there's like a couple there's

583
00:36:05,639 --> 00:36:07,960
only one more that I would say
is obvious, and then there's a couple

584
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,960
that are like borderline and like two
or three you just are not going to

585
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:17,119
get James Harden, No, he's
only ever had two. There's my three

586
00:36:17,159 --> 00:36:22,679
strikes. So Magic Johnson was the
other, like the one I would put

587
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:30,000
in there with Stockton as obvious.
Let's see Isaiah Thomas has had three.

588
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:35,679
Uh, and then after that it's
like tiny Archibald Russell Westbrook actually had three.

589
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,519
I should have got that. Yeah, Kevin Porter, not not Kevin

590
00:36:38,519 --> 00:36:43,880
Porter junior, other Kevin Porter from
like the late seventies has had a few.

591
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,119
Uh. And Gary Grant, who
I could not pick out of a

592
00:36:47,159 --> 00:36:52,719
lineup, but I vaguely remember that
name. But yeah, that's it.

593
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,280
Pretty good. You got stocked in. You needed to get stocked in or

594
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,800
else we would have had to cancel
the podcast. I think. So I

595
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,920
went one of seven. I should
I wanted to guess Agie Johnson, but

596
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:06,400
I was like, after missing on
a previous era like guy with Mark Jackson,

597
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,719
I was like, I don't Mark
Jackson was a good guess. Well,

598
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:12,079
now I'm thinking about it, like
the game was played so slow,

599
00:37:12,159 --> 00:37:15,239
probably when he was at his peak, that that rule doesn't make that it's

600
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:19,599
hard to like, yeah, it's
hard to remember the paces of different eras

601
00:37:19,599 --> 00:37:22,519
because he always like the sixties were
super fast, and then the eighties were

602
00:37:22,519 --> 00:37:25,360
fast, and then kind of like
the odd numbered decades were not, and

603
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:30,039
then since two thousand it's like been
both ultra slow and then really fast lately.

604
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:36,800
Let's see, how about this?
This is a This is inspired by

605
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:44,679
trivia question from Rubik Scal based on
SGA recently logging his one hundredth career thirty

606
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,840
point game that was on December twenty
ninth, which put him in a tie

607
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:51,840
for the lead this season for the
most thirty point games in the league with

608
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,920
twenty three. Luka Doncic, I
don't think I'm yeah, I'm not stepping

609
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:59,719
on any of these questions. Luka
Doncic just tied with him coming into tonight.

610
00:38:00,039 --> 00:38:02,719
So I'm gonna ask you, Dan, who has more thirty point games

611
00:38:04,159 --> 00:38:08,280
this season? Joel Embiid or Trey
Young Joel Embiid that's correct, twenty one

612
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:15,079
to fifteen? Who has more?
Dan Kevin Durant or Jannis Kevin Durant incorrect?

613
00:38:15,079 --> 00:38:20,079
Giannis has twenty, Durant has fourteen. Who has more thirty point games

614
00:38:20,159 --> 00:38:25,639
this year? Dearon Fox or Steph
Curry Taron Fox. Curry's got him by

615
00:38:25,639 --> 00:38:30,280
one, fourteen to thirteen. Last
one who has more thirty point games Tyrese

616
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:37,679
Maxey or Jalen Brunson. Uh,
Tyre's Maxy Maxi is correct ten to nine.

617
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,559
I picked close ones here, and
these will all be just dead stales

618
00:38:39,639 --> 00:38:43,039
that you'll never be able to cut
them up and use them. Because I'm

619
00:38:43,079 --> 00:38:47,400
sure he's one of these guys.
Went for thirty tonight. Wow. Yeah,

620
00:38:47,639 --> 00:38:51,719
the stuff in the mid season is
kind of tough. I'm still not

621
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,360
happy that no one appreciated my unassisted
dunks because I had to calculate the number

622
00:38:55,400 --> 00:39:00,480
of unassisted dunks by looking at how
many assisted dunks they had. Oh,

623
00:39:00,599 --> 00:39:05,400
I'm mad. That's a lot of
work. I have one more that doesn't

624
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:09,440
have anything to do with assists or
points or anything of that nature. So

625
00:39:09,519 --> 00:39:13,599
I think this. If I don't, I'm not gonna say it's in your

626
00:39:13,599 --> 00:39:16,159
wheelhouse, but based on the way
that we've had to cover the league for

627
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:21,800
like the last ten plus years,
it's stuff that you probably know. So

628
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,880
Dan, This is about money.
Who's got the bigger salary this year in

629
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:30,440
twenty three twenty four? Gotta hate
you, Kyrie Irving or Ben Simmons.

630
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:35,400
Who's making more money? Ben Simmons? No, No, you're right,

631
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,320
you're right, you're right. Right, let's say no, thirty seven point

632
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,599
nine million to thirty seven million,
so all these are going to be pretty

633
00:39:40,599 --> 00:39:45,559
close. Who's making more money this
year? Dan? Mike Conley or Jalen

634
00:39:45,559 --> 00:39:54,679
Brunson Mike Conley No, Jalen Brunson
twenty six point three, Conley twenty four

635
00:39:54,719 --> 00:40:00,719
point four. Who's mean trade for
Conley? Why didn't they just keep it?

636
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,519
Uh? Yeah, right, Reroute
And we talked about that, right,

637
00:40:02,639 --> 00:40:06,280
why it's like he just would be
I think it was the only reason

638
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,280
I come up with is they were
planning on using cap space and then they

639
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:13,199
didn't use cap space, and so
that makes it look even worse. Who's

640
00:40:13,199 --> 00:40:21,760
making more money? Gordon Hayward or
DeMar Derozen Mr. Hayward correct thirty one

641
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,599
point five to twenty eight point six
million. Would it help you if I

642
00:40:23,679 --> 00:40:28,199
told you one of the player's salaries
so you had like an anchor to go?

643
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,000
No, I like going into this
blind? All right? Who's making

644
00:40:30,039 --> 00:40:36,800
more money this year? Brook Lopez
or Miles Turner brook Lopez correct twenty five

645
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,800
to twenty point nine? Who's making
more money? Dan Jonas Valentiunas or Wendell

646
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:45,400
Carter Junior Jonas Valentinis wee Carter Junior
is like paying the magic to play for

647
00:40:46,199 --> 00:40:50,039
Carter Junior. I keep trying to
put him in every Fike trade because he's

648
00:40:50,039 --> 00:40:54,079
making thirteen point one this year is
fifteen point four? All right? Last

649
00:40:54,079 --> 00:40:58,760
one, Dan, Who's making more
money in twenty twenty three, twenty four?

650
00:40:59,119 --> 00:41:04,639
James Wiseman or Daniel Gafford James Wiseman. No, it is Daniel Gafford

651
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,800
twelve point four million to James Wiseman's
twelve point two. Wiseman, It's still

652
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:12,519
going to trade for Daniel Gafford,
right, I think you'd think, although,

653
00:41:12,559 --> 00:41:15,320
like if you can get Wendell Carter
for thirteen point one, I'm not

654
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,159
sure why you wouldn't offer more for
him. Uh. That's it. That's

655
00:41:17,199 --> 00:41:21,599
all my Uh, all my staff
padding that we're gonna do. Well.

656
00:41:21,639 --> 00:41:27,239
That was fun, I think anyway. So let's do man. I have

657
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,719
a I have I guess a bunch, but they're all quick. This one

658
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:39,199
is just completely random. Which NBA
player has the most TikTok followers Joannis Attatakoumpo,

659
00:41:39,519 --> 00:41:47,239
Steph Curry, Kyle Kuzma or Trey
Young. I'm gonna guess Kyle Kuzma

660
00:41:49,199 --> 00:41:52,239
seems like you'd hear about that.
He is incorrect in a big way.

661
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,199
He has about five hundred and fifty
eight thousand, and that's in last place.

662
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:59,119
Staph is in the lead at six
point six million. Okay, so

663
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,119
that was clubbed like ten x off. That's all. You're only like six

664
00:42:01,159 --> 00:42:05,400
million Kuzman in there. That's such
a red herring. Is like he seems

665
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,760
like he would care about TikTok,
he would get Yeah, That's why I

666
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,840
figured it would be a good one. John Morant was initially in there,

667
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:14,039
but I think he deleted his TikTok
or it never existed, and whatever I

668
00:42:14,079 --> 00:42:17,639
was reading lied to me. So
this is an extension of what we did

669
00:42:17,679 --> 00:42:23,320
last week when we guessed the will
Chamberlain I gave you will. Chamberlin owns

670
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:27,840
the NBA record for sixty five consecutive
games of scoring at least thirty points.

671
00:42:28,039 --> 00:42:30,800
Who has the second longest streak.
You got it wrong, of course,

672
00:42:31,079 --> 00:42:37,639
obviously, But which of these NBA
players has the longest streak of consecutive thirty

673
00:42:37,679 --> 00:42:44,039
point games? Steph Curry, Luka, Doncic, Kevin Durant or Michael Jordan?

674
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:50,239
Is that? Just? Can they
all be correct somehow? I'm gonna

675
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,840
say Kevin Durant because it seems like
he had a really long streak recently that

676
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:58,400
I remember for some reason. That
is correct. His longest streak is twelve,

677
00:42:58,519 --> 00:43:01,280
Steph, Luca, and MG all
topped out at eleven. Okay,

678
00:43:02,119 --> 00:43:05,960
so it was almost it almost was
the case that they were all the correct

679
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:10,360
answer. Yeah, which of these
NBA players has the longest streak of consecutive

680
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:16,000
thirty point games? Lebron, James
Kawhi, Leonard, Tracy McGrady or Shaquille

681
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:22,719
O'Neill. I have to say Tracy
McGrady because, uh, I'm just obligated

682
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,559
to pick my favorite guy. You're
correct, and I kind of hate that

683
00:43:25,599 --> 00:43:30,360
you got it right. McGrady had
fourteen, Lebron second with twelve, Shaq

684
00:43:30,519 --> 00:43:36,280
eleven, Kawhi with nine. How
did Shaq not have like fifty thirty straight

685
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,760
thirty point games? I just to
I guess make your fall and then the

686
00:43:40,079 --> 00:43:44,960
era too. Yeah, Kobe passed
the ball. Uh. Which of these

687
00:43:45,039 --> 00:43:49,639
NBA players has the longest streak of
consecutive thirty point games, Joannis Attentakumpo,

688
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:54,960
Larry Byrd, Alan Iverson or Damian
Lillard. Hmm, I think I'm gonna

689
00:43:55,000 --> 00:44:00,280
go with Iverson. Good. That
is incorrect. Allen Iverson had eight,

690
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:04,039
Larry Bird is in the lead with
nine. Wow, and Damian Lillard and

691
00:44:04,079 --> 00:44:07,920
Jannis each had eight as well.
Does all seem low? It doesn't it

692
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,480
seem low for all of them.
You'd think it seems incredibly low. Actually,

693
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:15,119
but I guess. I guess scoring
thirty points in a row that is

694
00:44:15,159 --> 00:44:20,840
hard. Here's nice little change of
pace here. Which NBA player? This

695
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,480
is so? By the way,
I'm only asking me so I can continue

696
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:27,039
to work in my home alone.
Clip on the short that no one seems

697
00:44:27,079 --> 00:44:30,079
to like as much as I do. Hey, I'm right here, I

698
00:44:30,119 --> 00:44:34,920
love it. Okay, good?
Which NBA player has never had a fifty

699
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:39,760
point ten assist game. Steph Curry, Luka, Doncic, Joel Embiid or

700
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:44,760
Nicole Jokic. I'm gonna say Jokic. I don't think he's had the fifty

701
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:49,880
ten. That is incorrect. Joel
Embiid, Jokic has one ten game,

702
00:44:50,159 --> 00:44:52,360
Steph had one, Luca had two. I would have thought Embiid had it

703
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:59,480
for sure. Tough for oh he
did. NBA, which NBA player has

704
00:44:59,559 --> 00:45:05,440
never had a fifty point tennisist game. Kareem abdul Jabbar, Kevin Durant,

705
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:13,519
Lebron James or Michael Jordan. Hmm, I'm gonna go with Michael Jordan,

706
00:45:14,159 --> 00:45:17,000
but I have no sense of this
one. That is incorrect. Michael Jordan

707
00:45:17,079 --> 00:45:22,719
had one, Kareem had one,
Lebron has two. Kevin Durant has zero,

708
00:45:22,039 --> 00:45:29,840
zero pass the ball, KDI which
NBA player has never had a fifty

709
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:36,320
point tennisist game. Kyrie Irving,
Donovan Mitchell, Russell Westbrook or Trey Young.

710
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:44,239
Oh man, I'm gonna say Kyrie
that is correct. Yes, Trey

711
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:45,719
and Donovan Mitchell each had one,
if you care, and Russell Westbrook had

712
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:49,800
three. I included him because I
figured you'd be able to know that he

713
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,280
had at least one. Yeah,
I was pretty confident not not picking him.

714
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,880
So this one's gonna be a little
different. I'm gonna force you because

715
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,840
now I can't even if I have
the time to cut up the one where

716
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:05,119
you gave me seven players of the
guesses, oh about one, and it

717
00:46:05,159 --> 00:46:07,360
was so short that it's just not
going to make a good short. It

718
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,880
was too short for shorts. How's
that do? So I'm gonna give you

719
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:15,039
an option of this is all NBA
themed with active players. Do you want

720
00:46:15,039 --> 00:46:21,880
to do specifically all NBA first team
selections or all NBA in general selections?

721
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:27,400
Hmmm, let's do first team?
Okay, let me bring up the proper

722
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:35,679
one. This is okay, so
Grant, eight active NBA players have made

723
00:46:36,079 --> 00:46:40,360
at least four first team All NBA
squads. How many of them can you

724
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:45,559
guess? I will give you three
strikes? Okay? So Lebron that is

725
00:46:45,599 --> 00:46:53,199
correct, Durant that is also correct. Four first teams? You said four

726
00:46:53,239 --> 00:47:00,280
first teams? Uh, Steph correct, that's three? Giannis correct, that's

727
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:08,559
four. Now the question is the
stupid center spot? Does yo? I'm

728
00:47:08,559 --> 00:47:10,519
gonna say yo. Kicch, I
feel like that might be a strike.

729
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:17,719
That is strike one has made three
first team, then I will not say

730
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:24,360
embeid. How about Kawhi? That
is incorrect, he's made three? I

731
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:28,159
got two strikes I only got three
guys or four guys, So if you

732
00:47:28,199 --> 00:47:34,559
got half of it on two strikes, Chris Paul, that is correct.

733
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,960
He's got four on the button.
See, I agree more, I gotta

734
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:46,559
be forgetting a wing somewhere there's somewhat
obvious. You're forgetting someone obvious. So

735
00:47:46,639 --> 00:47:52,639
I've said Steph Lebron, Katie Giannis
and Paul, and yet there is someone

736
00:47:52,760 --> 00:48:00,039
obvious that I'm missing. Arguably there's
like two obvious ones, maybe three that

737
00:48:00,159 --> 00:48:02,960
obvious. I want to look at. I want to look at, like

738
00:48:05,159 --> 00:48:09,000
just a list of players right now, just to prompt myself. Four all

739
00:48:09,119 --> 00:48:16,239
NBA first? Oh uh, James
Harden correct, six of eight? That

740
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:22,599
was my last really clear guess act
all right, Russ, No, that

741
00:48:22,679 --> 00:48:29,320
is incorrect. Russ has only two. The final two were Luka Doncic with

742
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:34,440
four and Anthony Davis with four.
Oh man, okay, I should have

743
00:48:34,679 --> 00:48:38,199
Yeah, six of eight. That's
impressive. Round of everyone who's listening,

744
00:48:38,639 --> 00:48:42,719
round of applause for Grant, tag
him and Discord shouting out in the comments

745
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,599
section, he's our hero. Should
have got Luca because didn't he make it

746
00:48:45,639 --> 00:48:49,719
like his third second year or something. Yeah, But I mean like that's

747
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,840
tough because his career is only what's
six years old or whatever? It is

748
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:57,519
five years old, So I get
why I thought you definitely should have gotten

749
00:48:57,559 --> 00:48:59,920
Hardened. The Davis and Luca Ones, I think we're actually the tough,

750
00:49:00,159 --> 00:49:01,920
So kudos to you. Yeah,
the center thing. So I wonder if

751
00:49:02,159 --> 00:49:07,199
all is just so far removed from
his last one that I wouldn't have faulted

752
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,280
you if you didn't get him.
He hasn't been selected in all NBA first

753
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:14,599
teams in twenty fourteen, so who
has it? Chris Paul? So I

754
00:49:14,599 --> 00:49:16,559
would have not faulted you if you
didn't get him. How many did Hardin

755
00:49:16,639 --> 00:49:22,480
have? Maybe? Sorry if you
said it is six? Okay, you

756
00:49:22,519 --> 00:49:28,000
know Lebron has more than double Kevin
Durant and James James Harden and Kevin Durant

757
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,280
have made twelve All NBA First team
combined. Lebron is thirteen All NBA First

758
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:36,760
Team. Well, he's gonna crazy, He's gonna. I think he's gonna,

759
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:40,199
assuming he starts, it'll be like
nineteen or twenty All Star Games starts

760
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:44,840
or something like that, which is
which I think is the record. That's

761
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:49,039
just like unthinkable. So this is
my last. I think this is Oh

762
00:49:49,079 --> 00:49:51,480
no, this is not my last. Let me this one is so off

763
00:49:51,519 --> 00:49:53,599
beat. Now let me do the
off So this we're gonna do something different.

764
00:49:53,599 --> 00:49:58,239
We've never tried this before. Grant, I'm excited. We're gonna guess

765
00:49:58,679 --> 00:50:04,559
which NBA player said that. Okay, talent can only get you so far.

766
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,639
It's about the drive and how insane
you are about wanting to be great

767
00:50:08,159 --> 00:50:15,000
and I have a little insanity.
Did Kobe Bryant say it? Lebron James?

768
00:50:15,039 --> 00:50:19,119
But who said that? Kobe Bryant, Lebron James, Michael Jordan,

769
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:23,320
or Kawhi Leonard. So before you
even finished it, Kobe popped into my

770
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:27,199
mind. So I'm gonna say,
Kobe Bryant, that is incorrect. It

771
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:30,920
was Lebron James. He said I
have a little bit of insanity. That's

772
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:32,920
such a Kobe thing to say.
Okay, I know that's unfortunate for you.

773
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,119
That's why it's a good question which
NBA player said this. To be

774
00:50:37,199 --> 00:50:42,400
honest, I would put myself in
the same category as d Wade, Anthony

775
00:50:42,519 --> 00:50:46,199
Edwards, Monte Ellis, Ricky Davis, or Donovan Mitchell. That is a

776
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:51,880
monte Ellis quote. I figured you
know that one nice job. That is

777
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,760
hilarious one I can I can see
the video of him saying that in my

778
00:50:54,840 --> 00:51:02,360
mind right now. Okay, which
the NBA player said this about Scottie Pippen.

779
00:51:04,199 --> 00:51:07,920
I'm the bridge, he's the water, he will always be under me.

780
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:14,840
Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan, Shaquille
O'Neal or Gary Payton. Ooh,

781
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:19,119
so I want to say Michael Jordan
just because that seems like something he'd say.

782
00:51:19,119 --> 00:51:22,480
But Gary Payton as the last one, really got to me, so

783
00:51:22,519 --> 00:51:24,840
I'm gonna say Gary Payton. Both
of those are incorrect. It was Shaquille.

784
00:51:27,039 --> 00:51:30,719
What's Shack got against Scotty Pippen?
They never come on. Let's be

785
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:35,199
honest. Though all the players just
listed, Shaq is absolutely the wordsmith necessary

786
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,440
to say. I'm the bridge,
he's the water, he will always be

787
00:51:37,519 --> 00:51:39,679
under me. I don't. I
have to confess, I don't totally understand

788
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:45,840
what that comparison means. I'm really
more am intrigued. Like what they never

789
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:50,880
played together? Right? They never
overlapped. I guess like maybe the Portland

790
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:54,559
Lakers series a couple of times was
where they where they met that I'm assuming

791
00:51:54,599 --> 00:52:00,400
he was referring to like maybe the
top seventy five rankings. Oh interesting,

792
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:01,840
I big double check to make sure
these were real quotes, by the way,

793
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:06,519
if you can. So now we
just need someone in discord to give

794
00:52:06,559 --> 00:52:09,639
me the context, like what is
the reason for Shack being the bridge over

795
00:52:09,679 --> 00:52:15,760
Scottie Pippins's water. That's such a
weird metaphor. This is my favorite one

796
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:21,320
which NBA player said the following about
load management. Let me die out there.

797
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:29,119
Jimmy Butler, Kevin Durant, Chris
Paul or Jason Tatum. Oh,

798
00:52:29,119 --> 00:52:35,480
there's so many good candidates there,
Dan Uh, Jimmy Butler is too obvious

799
00:52:35,559 --> 00:52:40,920
because we have almost seen him die
out there more than once in the playoffs.

800
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,239
I have to go first instinct,
which will be wrong, and I'm

801
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:50,760
gonna say Jimmy Butler that is incorrect. It was Kevin Durant. That's a

802
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,079
wild thing to say Kevin Durant,
although like the Sun's kind of treated him

803
00:52:53,119 --> 00:52:55,800
that way to start this season,
so I think I believe it was in

804
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,800
reference to when Steve Nash was playing
him forty nine minutes a game, or

805
00:53:00,199 --> 00:53:02,960
it was Yeah, that's it.
Kat has had some stretches like that in

806
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:08,320
his career where it's just like leave
the man alone. He's just for too

807
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:14,400
long, especially this year when he's
you know whatever. What is KTY thirty

808
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,679
five? I think he's thirty five, but it was thirty four. His

809
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:20,920
jersey number is thirty five. That
is true. I do know that.

810
00:53:21,079 --> 00:53:22,719
Had you give me Oh no,
he is thirty five. He turned thirty

811
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,400
five, except that. Look,
me and KD are both in RKD or

812
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:30,119
in your primes. You and KD
have a similar approach to work life balance.

813
00:53:30,199 --> 00:53:34,119
It sounds like let me die out
there, let me die out there

814
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,400
when it worked till I can't.
All right, So I have three more.

815
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:38,719
These aren't the quote one? Did
you like the quote ones? That's

816
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:43,000
not what you like that? Yeah? Okay, listeners, comments, discord,

817
00:53:43,079 --> 00:53:45,239
let us know if you enjoyed the
quote ones as well. You can

818
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:49,519
also submit those if you don't want
to do. Guests a player okay,

819
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:57,239
Three active NBA players have won both
at least one scoring and one assist title.

820
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,039
Who are they? I will give
you three strikes to guess these three

821
00:54:00,039 --> 00:54:07,679
players scoring title and assist title at
least one of each. Harden correct,

822
00:54:10,599 --> 00:54:17,719
Westbrook correct two for two Trey Young
incorrect strike one. Oh, I know

823
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:23,480
he led in total points and assists
at least once. Harden and Westbrook were

824
00:54:23,519 --> 00:54:32,760
the easy ones. I gotta be
missing somebody else for school. Did Lebron

825
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:36,800
do it? Lebron did it?
You got it? Ding ding ding.

826
00:54:37,119 --> 00:54:40,159
He snuck in that assist title like
fairly recently, right with twenty twenty.

827
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:44,599
He won a scoring title in two
thousand and eight. James Harden won scoring

828
00:54:44,599 --> 00:54:47,440
titles in twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, assist titles in twenty

829
00:54:47,519 --> 00:54:52,719
seventeen, and then last season.
Russ won scoring titles in twenty fifteen and

830
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:57,920
seventeen, assist titles in twenty eighteen, nineteen and twenty twenty one. Man

831
00:54:58,559 --> 00:55:01,159
Russ put up some numbers. I'm
not sure if we talk about that enough

832
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:07,119
had a lot of counting stats.
That guy. These two are they might

833
00:55:07,159 --> 00:55:08,679
be my favorite ones other than I
don't know. I kind of like the

834
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:13,800
quote idea, but these are way
more off the rails. Okay, uh,

835
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:17,119
life on the line. Would you
rather bet on Luka Doncic winning two

836
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:22,280
MVP awards or Victor webin Yama winning
four Defensive Player of the Year awards?

837
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:28,760
I that's a you got boy.
The numbers are just right for that.

838
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:31,519
What was the record? By the
way, Well, Gobert is gonna win

839
00:55:31,559 --> 00:55:37,559
his fourth this year, so he's
gonna tie it with Dwight Howard and Ben

840
00:55:37,599 --> 00:55:40,800
Wallace. I wish I knew the
answer to that. I'll double check.

841
00:55:42,199 --> 00:55:46,760
So I'm gonna say Luca winning two
m vps is more likely than Wembyama winning

842
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:52,119
four d p O wise just man, But like, if Luca's not gonna

843
00:55:52,119 --> 00:55:54,920
win it this year, yeah,
I'll go with that. I think I

844
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:59,239
think I've said enough Outlanda's shit about
Wimby, Like I don't need I don't

845
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,559
need to add to it. I
I might go with Wenby winning four,

846
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:07,760
just because when you look at what
Luca is gonna be up against. Yeah,

847
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,400
it's just like we've already kind of
seen we're not He's not, you

848
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:15,599
know, contending with Steph and Kevin
Durant and Lebron Right now, it's it's

849
00:56:15,679 --> 00:56:19,360
Shay, Yes, it's Jokic,
it's Embiid. Those guys aren't going anywhere

850
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,760
if Tatum ever levels up, and
then you're gonna I'm assuming some of these

851
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,119
younger guys. I mean Victor Weman. Yeah, was gonna be discussion at

852
00:56:25,119 --> 00:56:29,440
some point. Yeah, I mean, yeah, he's in like he's a

853
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:32,320
weird like he's still so young,
but he is in that like Bridge generation.

854
00:56:32,559 --> 00:56:37,039
That's I mean, Anthony Edwards is
gonna maybe be heard from, Like

855
00:56:37,039 --> 00:56:39,320
there's Halliburton. There's a bunch of
guys that are gonna be right there with

856
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:44,719
him. Yeah, but four,
I was gonna go three, but I

857
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:46,039
was like, I feel like that
was too easy. I would have picked

858
00:56:46,119 --> 00:56:50,519
up. Yeah, four was the
right number, but probably because like that

859
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,400
just doesn't happen. Two MVPs happens
all the time, it seems like anymore.

860
00:56:54,079 --> 00:56:57,760
Did you look up who else has
won for Yeah, it was Ben

861
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:00,920
Wallace? You recret So it's gonna
be Rudy Gobert probably Ben Wallace and Dwight

862
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:07,639
Howard. Amazing final stat padding question, Your life is on the line.

863
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,440
You have to bet on one of
these players making at least one All Star

864
00:57:10,519 --> 00:57:15,760
Game before they retire. Who are
you taking? RJ Barrett, Josh Giddy,

865
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:25,079
Jalen Green or Tyler Hero. Oh
man, I'm gonna bet on the

866
00:57:25,159 --> 00:57:31,880
guy who I think is currently the
worst player of that group, ironically,

867
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:37,519
which is Jalen Green. So you
gave me Barrett Green Hero, who's the

868
00:57:37,559 --> 00:57:42,280
fourth giddy Giddy Yeah, Getty,
he's not gonna make an all straight Yeah.

869
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:45,840
I think it's Green just because for
the same reason, like I still

870
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:47,559
sort of understand why he was picked
where he was. It's just like the

871
00:57:47,599 --> 00:57:52,639
athletic upside is ridiculous, and he
might, like if he averaged like twenty

872
00:57:52,679 --> 00:57:54,920
eight a game, you know,
in a couple of years, like it

873
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:58,519
wouldn't blow me away. I don't
know if that means he's gonna be like

874
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:02,880
an objectively helped, full good player, but like he seems like he seems

875
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:06,360
like he has more of an all
star ceiling than those guys. Would you

876
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,920
pick him or would you pick someone
else? I might go with Hero just

877
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:14,440
because I've lost a lot of faith
in Jalen Green and he Hero currently plays

878
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:17,920
for Miami and just can you rule
out a scenario in which Bam is injured

879
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:21,719
for an extended period of time or
Jimmy Butler is one season and Hero just

880
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,719
averages thirty points per game and five
assists and like just gets in by way

881
00:58:24,719 --> 00:58:28,480
of that one, Like if Jimmy
Butler were to die out there on the

882
00:58:28,519 --> 00:58:31,039
floor and Teller Hero just just has
to take over for the full season.

883
00:58:31,159 --> 00:58:35,199
Sure I could see it. Yeah, I don't know. That's like those

884
00:58:35,199 --> 00:58:38,159
are those guys are all like the
safe bet would be against all of them.

885
00:58:38,239 --> 00:58:44,039
Ever being Jordan Poole got to mod
it out of this discussion because you

886
00:58:44,079 --> 00:58:45,039
normally would have been tied into it. It's just like, Nope, that

887
00:58:45,079 --> 00:58:49,440
wasn't That wasn't going to cause you
to think enough, we got to revisit

888
00:58:49,639 --> 00:58:55,519
our like constant discussion of like Pool
Maxie Simon's Hero since those are like,

889
00:58:55,599 --> 00:58:59,280
those are the four guys kind of
in there too for us. Oh,

890
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:04,800
it's always this is the little guards
and they all got their extensions or actually

891
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,920
not Maxi hasn't yet, ironically,
since he's the best one of that group.

892
00:59:08,239 --> 00:59:10,519
Yeah, maybe we should do like
a yearly check up on like what

893
00:59:10,639 --> 00:59:16,760
the hierarchy of the pool Maxi Hero
Simons that just every year we have an

894
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:21,760
annual tradition of which what's the what's
the power rankings of those four guys.

895
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:25,480
For some reason, I always think
of together. Yeah, that'd be good.

896
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,320
And by the way, you said
staff padding wasn't going to take too

897
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:30,000
long, and it proceeded to take
like thirty something minutes. So that's like

898
00:59:30,039 --> 00:59:34,280
a bonus. I should split this
episode up. I won't because it'll be

899
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:37,840
out their episode of the week.
But you could put we could put guests,

900
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,599
and we could cram guests the players
into it and at some point and

901
00:59:40,679 --> 00:59:44,400
just make it its own thing.
We did that once before once or I

902
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:45,800
don't really know what the problem is
is when I put it, I feel

903
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:50,880
like our audio version of that does
fine, But when we do it like

904
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:53,119
put on YouTube, I don't know
how to hook it. So I mean,

905
00:59:53,119 --> 00:59:54,840
if you want to do some guest
of players, I'll hook it as

906
00:59:54,840 --> 01:00:00,400
which NBA players made more all NBA
teams or something. Well, I only

907
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,920
have one guests a player. I
think I think we should probably call it

908
01:00:04,639 --> 01:00:09,239
before my back falls completely apart right
now. If I decided to cut this

909
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:15,519
up separately, you're all welcome for
that nice little thirty minute Yeah, stat

910
01:00:15,519 --> 01:00:20,840
padding bonus. I think that's gonna
do it. Though everybody who has listened,

911
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:24,280
watched, rated, reviewed, subscribed, thumbs up, followed, told

912
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:28,400
friends, told enemies, thank you
for those of you that have not done

913
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:34,360
that, never speak to us again. Should we just get aggressive in the

914
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:37,639
in the thank yous, and just
really just draw a line in this else

915
01:00:37,039 --> 01:00:40,159
probably not, probably not. If
you haven't done those things, please do

916
01:00:40,239 --> 01:00:45,719
them, because we're eternally grateful and
appreciate all of the all the engagement,

917
01:00:45,039 --> 01:00:47,840
all the suggestions, all the guests
of players, all the trivia, and

918
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:52,440
just all the conversations on discord.
If you would like to get on our

919
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:54,280
discord, the link to do that
is in the YouTube and podcast description,

920
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:58,360
as are all of our socials.
As is the way to get some merch,

921
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:00,679
which I understand there might be some
new stuff coming. Maybe should I

922
01:01:00,679 --> 01:01:06,519
talk about that carpet? The hardwood
Knox carpeting will come to a retailer near

923
01:01:06,599 --> 01:01:09,679
you soon, except it except it
won't. I have no idea how much

924
01:01:09,679 --> 01:01:14,440
it costs. It was a gift. If you have space though in your

925
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:16,400
office granty with like a Hardwoodknox carpet, maybe we could, maybe we could

926
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:21,000
hook you up well, so when
you showed anyway, we could talk about

927
01:01:21,039 --> 01:01:22,960
it. Should we could keep talking
about the carpet or should I? Should

928
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:27,119
I finish it? I thought it
was a banner when you when you sent

929
01:01:27,159 --> 01:01:29,239
me the photo of it, and
then you said something about a carpet,

930
01:01:29,239 --> 01:01:30,039
and I was like, well,
that doesn't make sense. You don't roll

931
01:01:30,079 --> 01:01:32,920
around your chair on a banner.
That's dumb. I thought it was going

932
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:37,159
to be behind you, the big
hardwood Knox thing with the with the astronaut

933
01:01:37,239 --> 01:01:38,840
on it. No, there's like
no place to put it that would cover

934
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:44,239
up. But people in it was
funny, you said, would you say

935
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:46,400
that was? I think the the
stickers you ordered are too big. When

936
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:51,000
I you' like, what is it
like five by six or something or five

937
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:53,800
by seven? I have no idea
what it was. People in Discord loved

938
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:59,119
it, which people in Discord seem
to love my like setup in my office,

939
01:01:59,119 --> 01:02:02,199
which is a nice change of because
so many people think I'm like broadcasting

940
01:02:02,199 --> 01:02:05,360
from a closet and are making fun
of it. It was like, I

941
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,320
get their shoes set up behind me, but like, does this look like

942
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:12,440
a closet, Like look at Yeah, I'm just in a corner of my

943
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:15,719
office. It's mine looks more like
a closet than yours. I just have

944
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:19,320
a window, so it's definitely not
a closet. Well that's true. Yeah,

945
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:22,800
the window does get in the shot
sometimes pretty professional by me. Yeah,

946
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:27,320
I don't have a Saint Patrick's date
Danila Gallinari Jersey behind me, so

947
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:30,239
you automatically win or team at Jersey, which you should is like the you

948
01:02:30,239 --> 01:02:35,599
know, team at Guy, I
probably should. I have to find something

949
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:39,039
suggestions, Hey, Discord, give
me some freshened up suggestions, because these

950
01:02:39,119 --> 01:02:44,480
Warriors Championship hats and my dream on
bobblehead and some books are I gotta.

951
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:47,039
I want to do the lighting.
I actually have right next to me lighting

952
01:02:47,119 --> 01:02:51,159
to do, like the have you
ever watched like the YouTubers and they kind

953
01:02:51,199 --> 01:02:53,079
of have like the glow lighting and
it's a little bit darker behind them.

954
01:02:53,559 --> 01:02:55,800
That's the other thing that my wife
has just yet to do for me is

955
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:58,840
like she needs to set up my
lighting better. And she's supposed to be

956
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:00,639
working on new designs for us.
Well, if she figures out the lighting,

957
01:03:00,679 --> 01:03:02,639
let me know, because I got
some of those We're gonna use some

958
01:03:02,679 --> 01:03:06,880
of those led strips for Christmas lights
and then it looked too shitty and we

959
01:03:07,519 --> 01:03:12,199
use actual lights instead. So got
those laying around just ready for podcast studio

960
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:15,559
improvements. That's the goal for twenty
twenty four is to have the new designs

961
01:03:15,639 --> 01:03:21,440
up soon and for Grant and I
to brighten up. Are not brighten up,

962
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:24,760
but color it up really? Yeah, add some pizazz. Yeah.

963
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:28,960
I think that's right. I think
I said everything I'm supposed to say,

964
01:03:29,119 --> 01:03:31,000
except for As always, We're going
to close with the shout out to the

965
01:03:31,039 --> 01:03:34,800
one and only Frank Milakina and an
apology to Jared Allen
