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Welcome to the Nightcap on seven hundred
w l W. Tonight, a trip

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back in time to nineteen eighty four. As we start the show, how

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about David Lee, Rod and Van
Halen? As we jump into the conversation

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and nothing kids down? You got
it, I've seen the topess and get

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the wren. We might as well. A new book called Jump Oddly Enough,

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the fortieth anniversary of attending the nineteen
eighty four Van Halen concert. Jim

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Serger, the author, had lots
of help with this book because he had

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lots of friends with him on that
fateful night in March of twenty of nineteen

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eighty four, now forty years later. To talk about the book and the

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experience that has lasted a lifetime,
the author, Jim Serger joins us in

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this half hour. His friend Chris
Berger Will, who was at that same

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show as an almost teenager or as
a seventh grader whatever they were middle schoolers,

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I guess, will join us and
talk about that night and and the

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book. So, Jim, how
are you, Gary Hood? How are

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you today? I appreciate you having
me on. What a great song to

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kick it off. It almost made
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Well, yeah, David Lee was
pretty spry in those days, the

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scissor kicks and everything else. I
remember the song just because in March of

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nineteen eighty four, I was a
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played rock and roll, And remember
when the song came out and it was

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kind of mixed reviews about this new
van Halen song, said, what happened

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to van Halen? What's with all
this keyboard stuff? Come on? But

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it was. It was a huge, huge hit, obviously, and it

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launched all kinds of great memories for
you, and thus this book. So

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how old were you when you went
to the Cincinnati Gardens to see the kickoff

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of van Halen's nineteen eighty four tour
here in Cincinnati. It's really funny,

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is February twenty fourth, nineteen eighty
four I turned thirteen. And then on

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February twenty fifth, nineteen eighty four, Jump went to the number one on

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Billboard Hot one hundred, and then
on March ninth we got to see van

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Halen ven concerts. So now the
span of two weeks, all that transpired.

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I mean, it was unbelievable for
a birthday present with all my buddies,

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Oh it was it was a birthday
present. Your parents knew full well

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you were going right? No,
no, they did not know full well.

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No, no, no, no, not a single parent out of

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all my buddies said yes to start
off with. So, when Van Halen

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was announced that they were coming to
Cincinnati, because the song was released in

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December and eighty three and then the
music video Jump was released on January tewod

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nineteen eighty four, my mom and
dad didn't have a clue who Van Halen

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were. I didn't know who these
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my parents thought, well, they
looked trustworthy, they look good, and

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I think my mom kind of fell
in love with the band, you know

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what I mean. Well that helps. So if you got if you got

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mom in on the act, then
it's a lot easier to convince dad that

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you should be able to go.
So did they get these for a birthday

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present for you or what happened?
No, they didn't. So a group

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of my buddies, who all knew
Vanhalan very well because of the music video

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Jump and the song Jump, all
went back and told our parents, Hey,

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we got to see these guys in
concert, and they said, no,

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you guys are not going. You're
too young. You're altar boys,

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you're in the school choir, you're
on the little league baseball team. No,

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no, no, that is an
adult venue. But my buddy's dad

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was a Cincinnati police officer there.
So that was how we chorused our parents

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and so letting us go was there
was going to be a police officer,

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and then my parents said, well, you gotta get a chaperone. So

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my buddy, who is one of
eight kids, his dad said, oh,

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what the heck, you buy our
ticket. I'll take you guys.

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So one of the guys dad took
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So we had two adults with us. One was a cop working with van

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Halen backstage, and the other dad
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all the parents just chipped in and
boughtom a ticket. Unbelievable, unbelievable.

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So that was how we corenced our
parents into letting us go. There is

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a chapter in your book Jump called
simply the Van. Tell me about the

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van that you went to van Halen
in Jim. Well, everybody has a

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picture of the van. If somebody
says the van, they think of the

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eighteen you know, or they think
of the van from Scooby Doo. It's

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the van. So this was the
van Afford f one fifty echo line that

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you could have housed probably the Harlem
Globetrotters, plus the Cincnati Bearcats and the

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Musketeers all inside this man. So
here's all our buddies jam packed full in

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the back of the van. Mister
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to bond Hill to the gardens.
And it was just non stop, word

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after word after word. We were
trying to play the whole setlist in our

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head of how is Eddie van Halen
gonna play the guitar and how is he

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gonna play the keyboards at the same
time, and the other guy is just

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learned what delirious was from Eddie Murphy, so he is resigning delirious for the

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first time. So we are learning
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van. It was hilarious. Boy, there was a lot of language and

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delirious for a bunch of thirteen year
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I mean I was twenty three years
I was twenty three years old.

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I said, man, that is
raw, and then raw came out.

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But you are correct to have a
hidden camera or a microphone to record all

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of us guys going to the Van
Halen concert. I just think it would

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be drop dead awesome to relive that
probably twenty minutes thirty minute drive and hear

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all these young kids saying the F
bomb or Van Haaling or holy cow,

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or I can't believe it. This
is awesome. The chatterbox never would have

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stopped once inside that band. In
the acknowledgments in the front of the book,

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a guy named Dan Varner, who's
a Nashville Recording Artist Award winner,

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says, Wow, a stand by
Me and Sandlot coming of age story in

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which we can all relate your first
concert in friends, this was your very

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first concert, wasn't it our very
first concert? All of us grew up

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together playing baseball, the same soccer
team, same basketball team, so together,

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me and all my buddies that I
had known in first grade got to

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attend our first concert the hottest band
in America or the world with the number

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one song Jump in tenth row with
a twelve dollars and fifty cent ticket,

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and it went by so fast.
Gary, I mean it went by so

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fast. We were just in awe, standing on our seats, high five

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in each other, you know,
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in the air, going crazy.
It was really a special moment to be

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there with all my friends. And
that's why this book had to have been

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written, because we celebrate things all
the time as adults, and memories need

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to be captured and photographs are going
away because we just captured them in our

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cell phone. We don't make photo
albums anymore. And I wanted this book

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to be around forever to celebrate how
much affection I have for one, all

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my friends that I grew up with, but two what van Halen gave us

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together as a team. We hear
books written by experts on the history of

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van Halen, but we wanted to
capture what van Halen gave us. It's

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a special bond between friends forever.
And I want everybody to read this to

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understand where were they at on their
first concert, who were they with,

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and celebrate that so well. Skip
Myers is one of the adults that went

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with you. Correct, that's correct? And Skip Burger, that'll be christ

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ship Berger. I'm sorry. And
then Mike Myers was young, correct,

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and his name was Jim Myers Curl
Myers there, So Jim Myers was the

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oldest son. Mike was my age
and then his dad, Kim was the

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van driver of the night, so
he was the adult chopper. But he

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has been there and done that so
many times. When you're the dad of

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eight kids, this is nothing to
go to a man, right, This

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is just like one more piece of
a puzzle to add to the chaos of

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the family. I'll do it one
more and more merrier. Right? Sure?

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Was it the fact that you were
thirteen and you were all friends and

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it was your first experience? Is
that what has created the enduring memory and

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the longing to keep reliving it?
What made that particular show so special?

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Outside of that? Was it just
that you love van Halen that much?

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And I know it's persistent into your
adulthood. You've got a podcast about van

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Halen that you do regularly. Is
that correct? No, sir, No,

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that's actually incorrect. No, I
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That would be fun. No,
you put that in my arm.

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You're right, we talked to you. You've done podcasts about the book and

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about your experience, so I could
I could see you doing a podcast about

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van Halen. I mean, everybody
has a podcast about almost everything. Now

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that you're right, Yes, sir, you're absolutely right. But the moment

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of van Halen, I mean that's
back nineteen eighty four, forty years ago.

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So in all my span since I
graduated from high school, that's college,

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that's the Navy, that's moving out
of the country, that's getting married

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and having a kid. But the
powerful moment about this is when I hear

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a van Halen tune, it could
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on terminal at the Cincinnati airport.
Instantly I am taken back to March ninth,

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nineteen eighty four, and I replay
that night over my head. And

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that's something that I have on my
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And I'm not going to speak for
all that, but when I interviewed them

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all, they all felt the same
way. We're fifty two, fifty three

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years old, and van Halen's song
Jump and others Panama Hot for Teacher,

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Unchained, those are all special and
it just triggers it boom right there.

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And everybody out there knows a song. It could be your wedding song,

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it could be your prom So any
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power of music. And growing up, it was all sports. It was

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all the reds, it was all
the Fangles, Cyclones, Xavier. You

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see boom boom, And then we
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time. And that's what I knew. Music was powerful. I was there

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live and in person, and it's
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different than listening in on the radio. There they are the guys that I

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play all day long, and boom, we get to see them and that's

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what the moment was special about.
Here's an excerpt from the chapter called Eddie's

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Death. Of course we lost Eddy
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said, a friend of mine shared
a story about the eighty five Chicago Bears,

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which I remember, and I was
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was watching the Super Bowl with all
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everyone screaming and running around the house. He ran to his dad to the

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other room and said, we won. We won. His dad then said,

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does that mean we can't go to
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job? And party life goes on. It's just football, and the super

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Bowl win doesn't pay our bills.
It is true worshiping celebrities running off to

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buy all your novelty items. It's
not exactly what our parents wanted us to

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do with our money as youngsters or
even adults. But celebrities, bands,

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group singers, they all give us
even just a few hours of an escape

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and get away, of time to
unravel. And I would agree that you

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can't just build your life around,
you know, celebrities and music, footballs,

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whatever it is, sports or music
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it's a nice distraction. I would
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Absolutely I agree with you wholeheartedly on
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outlet, whether that be a play, whether that be catching a baseball game,

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a varsity high school hockey game,
whatever venue, it gives us an

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escape route. We can't be nose
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four seven, twenty four seven.
We have to be able to go out

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and live life a little bit.
And the moving part about Eddie passing away

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is I had seen him live in
person. He was probably twenty feet away

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from me, jamming on his guitar, sweating it out, giving one hundred

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energy for maybe two hours, two
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and I got to see him.
So it's a part of me seeing Eddie.

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So it did touch me a little
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and it's going to happen with other
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All I wanted to be with Pete
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hangs in my office right here with
a handstitched Rookie jersey. I'm going to

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be sad. I grew up with
him. He's a part of my way

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of life, you know, here
in Cincinnati, and Eddie hit the drum

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right on the fnare right there.
When he passed away, becau part of

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my night that I celebrated with my
friends. So yes, it is sad,

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but you're right. Life goes on. But I'm able to capture that

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because Eddie gave me that moment with
my friends. Thank you for that.

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Jim Jim Serger, the author of
Jump. The fortieth anniversary of attending nineteen

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eighty four Van Halen concert at the
Cincinnati Gardens, This probably deserves more attention

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and time, but that's all I've
got for tonight, Jim. Maybe again

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we'll have a chance to discuss the
nine to eleven book, and I know

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you're working on some new ones.
I I won't go into that, but

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thanks again for your time. We're
going to talk to your buddy who was

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there with you, Chris Berger up
next after the break with more Van Halen

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jump news on the nightcap on seven
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talking out my father. Besides change
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We continue our hour long discussion of
the book Jump fortieth anniversary of attending the

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nineteen eighty four Van Halen concert Cincinnati
Gardens, Cincinnati in March of twenty twenty,

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nineteen eighty four, and here is
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on the fortieth anniversary, and we
have another one of the attendees we talked

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to Jim Serger last hour. This
is Chris Berger, one of his childhood

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buddies who was there that night,
brought in the Ford Aconta line van and

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deposited with his buddies, Cincinnati copp
and one of the boys fathers. Actually,

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your dad was one of the chaperones, Chris. But it's great to

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talk to Chris Berger tonight more on
this particular special night in your lives and

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probably relatable to a lot of other
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and cognizant of MTV and rock and
roll forty years ago. Chris Berger,

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how are you doing. I'm doing
great, Gary, Jeff, thank you

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for having me on. It's a
pleasure and just reliving the memories of that

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night and my childhood altogether. It's
a great book and a lot of people

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are going to enjoy reading it.
So what do you do these days,

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Chris, I'm actually a sales manager
for an architectural aluminum company. Okay,

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well that's very specific. Yeah,
have you been? And Jim bay Fund.

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Jim made fun of me too the
first time we started talking about the

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book and everything, and he told
me, oh, what do you do?

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And I went in this whole ten
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the salesperson out of me. That's
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something. Well, that's good,
I will hold I won't hold that against

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you. Uh, thank you.
So what what is the one if there,

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if you could choose one particular sustaining
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there one thing that just sticks out
more than the rest or? Can it?

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Can it even be consumed? Uh, without the whole big picture of

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the whole evening. But was there
one thing that sticks out in Chris Berger's

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mind to this day? Now?
It was so many different events that happened

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in my life over a twelve hour
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is my lasting memory. I wish. Yeah, there's great things like meeting

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Eddie, meeting the band, when
Eddie started the solo to open the show

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of Unchained, which was just hearth
shattering in my mind. But every little

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piece you're walking into the gardens experiencing
an actual concert for the first time doing

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grown up things. So I can't
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It was just the whole compiling of
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So was your father the police officer
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your dad ski, Yes, Yes, my dad was the police officer Skipburger

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all right. So other parents have
felt kind of relieved since they had the

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law enforcement with them to chaperone on
this trip. And oh exactly. But

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here's the thing with that, Gary, Jeff. When we first started talking

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about this and the group of us
wanted a group of friends wanted to go

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see the concert and everything, my
mom and dad immediately said, no,

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you are not going. My dad
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of concert events back in the day. He knew what happened in front of

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the stage, behind the stage.
It was a no, no, no,

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you are not going to that show. But Jim, Todd, Mike,

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all my buddies, they used my
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mister Burger's going to be there.
He's a policeman, he's going to look

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over. So all of my friend's
parents said, oh, okay, that's

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great, mister Berger's going to be
there. Okay, You're going to be

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safe and everything. So I'm sitting
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but yeah, all my buddies get
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So when your dad found out that
he had been used in such of what

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finally possessed him to say, okay, Chris, you can go. Well,

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you know, I've told this story
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and it was actually my dad meeting
Eddie van Halen, meeting the band,

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you know, interacting with them backstage
and everything. And like I said

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before, my dad had worked a
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preconceived notion and he witnessed at firsthand
what happens at their shows. But with

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the interaction with you know, specifically
Eddie, how down to earth he was

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and just how relatable and he actually
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stuff about being a policeman. So
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a connection. And what I say
now is the rock gods were looking down

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on me that Friday, March ninth, and actually Eddie they played for two

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nights and my dad of course met
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of the show, and that's when
they had the interaction before Van Halen took

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the stage and Eddie asked, my
dad, is your son here tonight.

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He's like, no, no,
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a school night. And Eddie goes, is he going to be here tomorrow

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night? And my Dad's like no, he doesn't have a ticket. And

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that's when Eddie said, I want
you to bring him tomorrow night. I

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want you to bring him backstage tomorrow
night because I want to meet him.

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Like I said, the rock gods
were shining down on me and you know,

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you couldn't just it was just incredible
and reliving it. And okay,

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okay, okay, Chris, So
your dad is talking to Eddie van Halen

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the night before you guys were hoping
to go to the show, and Eddie

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says, yes, oh, bring
your bring your kid, you know what,

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and and bring him backstage. So
through your police officer father, who

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was saying no, no, no, no, no, all of a

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sudden, he's he's being invited to
bring you the next night. So that's

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how you guys got backstage. Was
so your dad's connection all right, yeah,

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exactly. But the thing is with
that Gary Jeff. Yeah, my

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dad was okay with but the ultimate
gatekeeper was my mom. She still needed

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to be convinced to let me go, which after the concert, her and

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my dad talked and they ultimately came
to the decision that yeah, I could

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go. Well that's wonderful. It
wasn't any of that. We'll go ask

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your father and he says, I
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It wasn't one of those teals.
So no, no, definitely not.

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My mom was the gatekeeper, so
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she knew how disappointed I was that
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the tickets and everything like that,
and she knew, you know, I

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really wanted to go because these were
my childhood friends. I mean, we

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played sports teams that our baseball,
soccer, basketball, and you know how

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it is when you're a kid when
you kind of get left out of the

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whole group of doing something. And
then you know, I think that you

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know, definitely worked into the equation. It doesn't hurt that, you know,

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Eddie van Halen himself invited me to
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so let's talk about that. That
chance meeting backstage that was lined up,

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not really a chance meeting, and
it happened, and upon Eddievon van Halen's

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request, you're there, so tell
me about you guys. Did your mouths

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ever closed? Were you What was
that like as a twelve thirteen year old,

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Yeah, I mean meeting him,
and you know, that was our

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first concert in really, my buddies
and I. We got into Van Halen

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because of the song Jumped. I
mean, it was the hottest song on

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the radio on MTV, they were
the hottest band, so you know,

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yeah, we saw the videos like
Okay, this is cool and everything,

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but you know, years later just
thinking about you know, yeah, it

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was awesome meeting them, but it
didn't mean what it meant to me what

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it means to me today with actually
meeting them and how nice they were,

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and they took time. They didn't
need a pip squeak like me coming backstage,

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but you know, just to be
able to shake their hands and they

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signed the cover liner from my eighty
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and it was just like just the
coolest thing in the world. And then

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actually getting into the actual concert and
everything. Yeah, I don't think our

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mouth shut or our eyes closed the
whole entire concert. There's a whole section

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of the book that has ticket stubs. Oh yeah, skip one of your

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dad gave to you. He was
doing it. He was throwing guys out

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of the concert and everything, and
he would take their ticket stubs. So

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that's why I've got like ten ticket
stubs from that night, but not one

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of them were mine because I didn't
have a ticket. So Chris Berger's ticket.

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But remember Chris did not have a
ticket that night, so I'm sure

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this is either Todd or Mike's ticket
which ended up in Chris's possession. You're

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a ticket You're a ticket thief,
is what you are. Chris. That

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was some thing, you know,
back when I was a kid collecting baseball

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cards and everything. Yeah, I
didn't throw away anything. I just put

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everything into a box. And you
know, going through that and you know,

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seeing all those ticket stubs. But
the craziest thing about that, on

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that ticket stub, it shows you're
right there twelve dollars and fifty cents for

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the tenth row center stage at the
Gardens for Van Haleen eighty four. Yeah,

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you guys are on these do you
guys are on these? Metal folding

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chairs standing on them ten rows from
the stage. That's incredible in and of

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itself. Were these general emission tickets
or those are the tickets you bought that

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put you on the tenth throw?
Those were the tickets that that the guys

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bought, yeah, previously Okay,
So there was a big area behind you

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where people could get through, so
you kind of you kind of had a

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little bit more room. You weren't
all crammed in like sardines right where you

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were. Oh yeah, yeah,
definitely. There wasn't anybody behind us.

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That was the thoroughfare from you know, one side of the Coliseene to the

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the other. And that in itself
was you know, a spectacle. You

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know, like you said, this
is our first Confort concert. We'd never

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experienced anything like that. And you
see the cops pulling people out, and

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that was that that general area right
there was was really people just moving to

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and from and everything. Was there
a lot of marijuana being smoked inside the

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arena? Is that one of the
reasons that the cops were escorting people out?

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I think so. But you know, once again, and my buddy

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Todd, who's instrumental in this book
too, and he says that who let

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the skunk in here? I was
like, do you smell that skunk in

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everything? So it's like, you
know, we had seen stuff on TV,

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but actually in person seeing people firing
it up and then smelling that and

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everything was just yeah, I'm sure
that was probably half the people that got

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thrown out of there is because of
smoking crafts. So you guys all played

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sports together and then you you did
this together. Pretty tight knit knit group.

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Yes, did you have any real
interest in girls at the that age

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twelve thirteen? Not? At that
age, No, I had, Well,

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I should take that back just a
little bit. When I did walk

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backstage. That was my first kind
of experience with I guess you go quote

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unquote groupies with the eighties girls with
the big aquinet hair and everything. So

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that was my first movie. We
started walking backstage seeing all these you know,

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gorgeous beautiful women and everything, and
that's why I said, you know,

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I could have probably just stayed out
there and been happy, but you

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know I had to meet Eddie and
the rest of the guys. So so

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yeah, but not, you know, not anything with school or anything like

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that. Interest in girl. The
really was, you know, music in

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sports, and hanging out with all
my buddies and my friends. So your

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buddies are all still around and doing
well. Yes, yes they are good.

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Good. Is your father still with
us or is he gone? He

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is, he is still with us, and he's really enjoyed this journey and

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everything and just reading you know,
the stories with it, and you know,

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we keep talking about that. You
know, none of this would have

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happened, you know, first off, if we weren't such a tight knit

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group of friends. And then if
that didn't happen with Eddie, who knows,

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well, I wouldn't have been at
the show. So who knows that

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this story really holds the meaning?
You know, if I wasn't involved,

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or we weren't all friends and be
able to experience this show together, well

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that's great. Well listen, it's
it's a joy to talk to you.

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I had fun talking to Jim too. The book by Jim Serger with Chris

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Berger, jimmy Myers, Jim Myers, Todd Zimmerman, Skipberger, and Mike

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Myers Jump the fortieth anniversary of attending
the nineteen eighty four Van Halen Concert and

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what was your next Van Halen experience? Real quickly after that, Chris.

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The next one with Van Halen was
fifty one fifty. Well that was the

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next album, you know, after
Dave left the band and everything. So

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yeah, fifty one fifty And I
know that's the age long debate, you

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know, Sammy or Dave and everything, but yeah, that was Sammy did

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a great job, did a great
job when he was part of Van Halen.

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But yeah, fifty one to fifty
was my next concert after eighty four.

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And I've been able to see van
Halen fifteen times altogether. Good for

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you, listen, thanks for taking
the time to talk to us tonight.

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Chris Berger with us on the night
Cap, and we'll end with a little

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ain't talking about love com including and
I had a little slinger all about your

409
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disease that you may have all the
wrong David, but I got something you

410
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need tell you. Just rid to
call tell you. She's like, I'm

411
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talking before yeah, before you do
you say my good logan and six again

412
00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:07.400
count you're thinking that a cookie man, you've had nobody yourself a friend.

413
00:36:08.280 --> 00:36:20.519
My man didn't talking, not a
card. I talk loud, just like

414
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I taught you keep calling. They
fall, they fall, they fall,

415
00:36:23.679 --> 00:36:47.039
be about he Tunnle and everybody get
you the car ain't talking, just like

416
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I got told you these do I
beg I've been to the edge. May

417
00:36:54.159 --> 00:37:01.679
I stouldn't look down nor lost a
lot of friends. I got more tip

418
00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:35.639
of the spam, got to bree, go to calm. I believe once

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again for this hour. David Lee, Rod Eddie, and Alex van Halen,

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00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:47.480
Michael Anthony again the book Jump the
fortieth anniversary of attending the nineteen eighty

421
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four Van Halen concert at Cincinnati Gardens. After Jim Serger along with his buddy

422
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Chris Berger, Thank you, gentlemen, News next seven hundred WLW. For

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00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:07.280
most of us, there are no
guarantees as we just had on a few

424
00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:10.800
weeks ago. But it was so
fascinating and so infuriating to hear a real

425
00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:17.039
story of what Americans are being put
through in the name of justice. Oddly

426
00:38:17.239 --> 00:38:22.679
enough, regarding January sixth and just
and it's it's a harbinger for all of

427
00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:28.920
us as American citizens. If they
can do that to this guy, they

428
00:38:29.039 --> 00:38:31.599
certainly could do it to any one
of us, And they can make up

429
00:38:31.719 --> 00:38:40.079
anything they want to make up to
justify the injustices that have been done to

430
00:38:40.199 --> 00:38:44.840
the January sixth protesters, the people
that were there at the Capitol, not

431
00:38:44.960 --> 00:38:50.440
the people who were violent or doing
anything that amounted to any kind of harm

432
00:38:51.079 --> 00:38:57.559
to Congress or the Capitol police or
anyone else. They Yet many were arrested

433
00:38:57.599 --> 00:39:02.039
and spent a lot of time in
jail, being denied their rights to see

434
00:39:02.079 --> 00:39:06.079
their attorney, to see the evidence
before they went to trial. One of

435
00:39:06.159 --> 00:39:09.599
those people is with us again.
Tim Hale, thirty three year old Army

436
00:39:09.639 --> 00:39:15.920
Reserve veteran, recently released after being
in jail for nearly three years. Big

437
00:39:16.679 --> 00:39:22.360
the big charge, the big kahuna
was obstruction of official proceeding, the only

438
00:39:22.440 --> 00:39:27.719
felony charge part of the fifteen twelve
Section C two being reviewed by the Supreme

439
00:39:27.800 --> 00:39:30.639
Court right now. And to give
us an update on what's going on in

440
00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:35.599
video that is still being released from
January sixth that you and I have not

441
00:39:35.800 --> 00:39:37.880
seen, haven't been able to see
because they've been hiding it from us,

442
00:39:38.519 --> 00:39:44.639
is the aforementioned Tim Hale. How
you doing, Tim, I'm doing great.

443
00:39:44.920 --> 00:39:46.760
I'm happy to be back. Yeah, it's good to have you back.

444
00:39:47.119 --> 00:39:51.360
I wanted to bring a light to
something you may or may not know

445
00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:53.760
about. It doesn't involve you directly. But another one of the January sixth

446
00:39:53.840 --> 00:40:00.039
protesters who was given a misdemeanor charge
of parading at the cap. But see,

447
00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:05.840
now, when I was a kid, the only bad thing about parades

448
00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:07.840
is they didn't throw out to write
kind of candy. I don't know what

449
00:40:08.159 --> 00:40:15.039
kind of charge parading is. I
understand it's a misdemeanor. And a gentleman

450
00:40:15.079 --> 00:40:22.559
who's a fifty three year old truck
driver named James Little was arrested and he

451
00:40:22.719 --> 00:40:29.400
beat the charges in court after being
sentenced to whatever six and anyway, because

452
00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:34.400
the judge didn't like the fact that
I guess he beat the charges, he

453
00:40:34.480 --> 00:40:37.920
sends him to another sixty days in
jail. I don't know if you've heard

454
00:40:37.920 --> 00:40:42.840
about his case or not, Tim, But do you know anything about the

455
00:40:43.079 --> 00:40:49.320
man I'm talking about, I honestly
no. That's actually that's a new one

456
00:40:49.400 --> 00:40:54.159
for me. I know there is
something to be said about these sentences that

457
00:40:54.239 --> 00:41:00.360
are being handed out. I mean, that's again, that actually a new

458
00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:02.000
one to me. I try to
keep up with some of these cases,

459
00:41:02.320 --> 00:41:06.360
and there's so many bizarre ones.
I mean, there's a guy named Jeremy.

460
00:41:07.400 --> 00:41:10.360
He tried to raise money so he
could pay for a lawyer, and

461
00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:14.400
the government didn't like that he was
raising money to pay for the lawyers,

462
00:41:14.440 --> 00:41:19.639
so the government had the court freeze
the fundraiser he set up so he couldn't

463
00:41:19.639 --> 00:41:22.239
pay for a new lawyer. So, I mean, that's how desconable it

464
00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:30.000
really is. You have the right
to a defense of the charges against you,

465
00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:37.280
so therefore they were restricting his ability
to even defend himself, which has

466
00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:40.719
happened time and time again, as
you described to us a few weeks back.

467
00:41:42.960 --> 00:41:45.559
Not allowing you to see the evidence
against you so you can prepare for

468
00:41:45.719 --> 00:41:52.519
trial, and having such limited access
to your attorney. All of these things

469
00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:59.280
are illegal, and yet the government
is using all kinds of obfiscated reasons to

470
00:41:59.559 --> 00:42:04.639
keep the defendants of January sixth from
these specifically. And that's another example.

471
00:42:05.159 --> 00:42:08.639
So anyway, Tim, this is
what I was gonna tell you here if

472
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I can pull this James Little and
this is from This is from Tim Rivers,

473
00:42:15.719 --> 00:42:20.880
the author of the American Gulag Chronicles
Letters from Prison. I don't know

474
00:42:20.960 --> 00:42:23.000
if you've familiar with Tim at all. I know you've been working with the

475
00:42:23.960 --> 00:42:29.480
Patriot Freedom Project and they have helped
you people like Ed Martin, who's a

476
00:42:29.599 --> 00:42:39.119
fantastic attorney. But here's the deal
of James Little. Apparently the judge did

477
00:42:39.199 --> 00:42:45.280
not like the fact that he was
unremorseful. According to this story from the

478
00:42:46.199 --> 00:42:53.079
Washington Times, I believe, and
the judge in his case was a man

479
00:42:53.239 --> 00:43:01.559
named Royce C. Lambert. Oh, yeah, you're familiar with lamberth He's

480
00:43:01.639 --> 00:43:06.199
one of the major ones. And
let me just say this. There are

481
00:43:06.239 --> 00:43:09.000
a lot of district judges, but
it seems like with January sixth cases,

482
00:43:09.119 --> 00:43:13.800
it's always like the same twenty or
so judges who get all of the cases.

483
00:43:13.840 --> 00:43:19.599
It's very interesting. But please continue
selective justice, okay, which we've

484
00:43:19.639 --> 00:43:22.679
seen a lot of in this country
over the last and continue to see it.

485
00:43:22.760 --> 00:43:28.199
But anyway, he said Thursday last
Thursday, was worried about further danger

486
00:43:28.320 --> 00:43:34.039
to our country because of Little and
other shameless attempts to misinterpret or misrepresent what

487
00:43:34.239 --> 00:43:37.840
happened on January sixth, twenty twenty
one. Well, his audience was just

488
00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:43.000
Little, the fifty three year old
North Carolina truck driver. The judge also

489
00:43:43.079 --> 00:43:47.679
alluded to comments made by Republican lawmakers, including what he called a preposterous statement

490
00:43:49.159 --> 00:43:54.960
from Representative Elise Stefanic, calling January
sixth, defendants hostages. Would you say

491
00:43:55.039 --> 00:43:59.639
that you were more of a hostage
than a prisoner in the time you were

492
00:43:59.679 --> 00:44:05.159
into Yeah, I would say that
because you know, something that's interesting with

493
00:44:05.480 --> 00:44:10.360
hostages I think is that you know, typically they're they're not really held for

494
00:44:10.519 --> 00:44:15.960
real reasons that would you know the
justice Yeah, Like okay, So for

495
00:44:16.079 --> 00:44:22.360
instance, one thing I noticed when
going through case law is that these judges

496
00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:25.519
keep using the term insurrection even though
it's in three years and they know it

497
00:44:25.719 --> 00:44:29.599
wasn't an insurrection. No one's in
charge with it. So I mean,

498
00:44:29.639 --> 00:44:31.840
that's kind of the same thing here. You know, it's like the letter

499
00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:36.880
of the law doesn't mean anything,
and it's like why spend It's just interesting,

500
00:44:37.000 --> 00:44:38.559
like you spend all this time reading
case law, and what's the point

501
00:44:38.639 --> 00:44:43.639
if they're gonna make up their own
rules and can completely ignore the case law.

502
00:44:44.039 --> 00:44:46.159
Right, There's another. Here's another. Here's another, like really ridiculous

503
00:44:46.199 --> 00:44:52.079
example. There was a woman across
paths with a couple of times in the

504
00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:57.559
in the Capitol building. Name was
Caitlin Bartow, and she's like this cowgirl

505
00:44:57.639 --> 00:45:02.199
from out west. She got couple
of misdemeanors and it's been three years,

506
00:45:02.440 --> 00:45:07.079
so she's supposed to be sentenced I
think next week. And she did nothing.

507
00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:10.360
She literally she was picking up She's
on video. I have video of

508
00:45:10.400 --> 00:45:15.199
her. I posted it. She's
picking up garbage and putting it in garbage

509
00:45:15.239 --> 00:45:20.199
bags. She gave a speech,
and I mentioned this in my trial too,

510
00:45:21.639 --> 00:45:23.360
and it's like it's on the record. I don't understand like why people

511
00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:29.480
like the building was not inside the
building was not anywhere near as violent as

512
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outside. People were just wandering around. So she gave a speech basically inside

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00:45:34.000 --> 00:45:38.400
what's called the Capital Visitor Center,
and she completely talked down a crowd of

514
00:45:38.480 --> 00:45:43.679
people that were angry that the cops
were like hurting people. And so actually

515
00:45:43.880 --> 00:45:46.360
like the cops and the and the
crowd, And then on our way out,

516
00:45:46.480 --> 00:45:50.320
you can see me and her because
they're sitting us out a window,

517
00:45:51.199 --> 00:45:55.320
the Capitol police. You can see
us yelling to people stop breaking the s

518
00:45:55.440 --> 00:45:59.679
words, you know, stop breaking
stuff. So I mean it's like this,

519
00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:02.360
I mean, as well as her
brother, like there's no reason they

520
00:46:02.360 --> 00:46:07.239
should have even been prosecuted, let
alone with stupid misdemeanors and then hold them

521
00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:09.360
hostage for three years. I mean, they're out on bond, but just

522
00:46:09.920 --> 00:46:15.280
like, why even wasting resources prosecuting
these people. It's really just the part

523
00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:20.280
of the phrase a body count,
you know, sure, And the more

524
00:46:20.519 --> 00:46:23.800
they can add on to that group
and make it seem like it was an

525
00:46:23.840 --> 00:46:29.880
ominous group of people trying to overtake
the US government, the more they can

526
00:46:29.960 --> 00:46:35.000
add on, the more it contributes
to their insurrectionist narrative. The drum beat

527
00:46:35.079 --> 00:46:37.800
that has been going on for the
last three years. After January sixth,

528
00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:43.960
twenty twenty one, now, the
video that you're talking about, trying to

529
00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:51.400
trying to get it released, do
you remember all of the uproar when Tucker

530
00:46:51.519 --> 00:46:58.599
Carlson just released just a portion of
the video that he had gotten released,

531
00:46:58.719 --> 00:47:01.960
just a portion, you know,
And oddly enough, a week later,

532
00:47:02.079 --> 00:47:07.559
Tucker Carlson wasn't on Fox News anymore. I just find that I find that

533
00:47:07.760 --> 00:47:12.719
kind of odd, don't you.
Yeah, I mean that was I was

534
00:47:12.800 --> 00:47:15.280
actually I think I was in prison
at the time, but I ye know,

535
00:47:15.559 --> 00:47:20.000
I did. Uh. I'll say
this, there's one thing sex offenders

536
00:47:20.039 --> 00:47:22.079
love watching in prison, and it's
Fox News. So I saw that on

537
00:47:22.239 --> 00:47:28.199
TV all the time. So I
happened to notice when all the child molesters

538
00:47:28.239 --> 00:47:30.840
weren't watching Fox you know, where
they were watching Fox News, there was

539
00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:31.920
a different host on. So I
was like, Okay, that's cool.

540
00:47:32.039 --> 00:47:37.119
Interesting, I wonder why that is. Yeah, I have mixed feelings about

541
00:47:37.159 --> 00:47:39.559
that, you know, because like
I am, like, I'm a little

542
00:47:39.599 --> 00:47:45.719
salty that McCarthy didn't give Tucker Moore
to release. But yeah, it is

543
00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:49.239
interesting, like as soon as they
see a little bit of video that contradicts

544
00:47:49.239 --> 00:47:53.559
their narrative, they start losing their
minds. And it's like CNN and all

545
00:47:53.599 --> 00:47:58.360
these like fake news, they're the
ones really like they were the ones playing

546
00:47:58.400 --> 00:48:02.639
to see twenty second clips for three
years. Suddenly you see at a little

547
00:48:02.679 --> 00:48:07.440
bit of video that says, well, actually, maybe maybe it was a

548
00:48:07.719 --> 00:48:12.440
mostly peaceful protest quote unquote, and
then suddenly, yeah, people start freaking

549
00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:16.519
out. Yeah, well, you
know what, we didn't have a federal

550
00:48:16.679 --> 00:48:24.039
push by the Department of Justice to
arrest in mass Black Lives Matter and ANTIFA

551
00:48:24.119 --> 00:48:30.920
protesters who were doing serious damage not
only to property federal property, but to

552
00:48:30.639 --> 00:48:35.280
just common everyday citizens who are just
trying to mind their own business and live

553
00:48:35.360 --> 00:48:40.079
their lives and all all of that, you know, the Democrats, Kamala

554
00:48:40.199 --> 00:48:49.880
Harris famously was funding bail for BLM
protesters and Antifa protesters because they were a

555
00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:52.760
fundraising arm of the Democrat Party,
which we found out, you know,

556
00:48:53.159 --> 00:49:00.639
in the middle of all of that
chaos in twenty twenty one. Thing famously,

557
00:49:00.559 --> 00:49:06.239
there's an old song by the group
Fix from nineteen eighty something eighty three

558
00:49:06.360 --> 00:49:14.280
says one thing leads to another,
And certainly the unrest of twenty twenty led

559
00:49:14.400 --> 00:49:21.840
to further mayhem in twenty twenty one, But that mayhem was not being caused

560
00:49:21.960 --> 00:49:25.880
mainly by January sixth protesters. It
was being caused by the federal government in

561
00:49:27.039 --> 00:49:31.400
cahoots with the Department of Justice and
Capitol Police. Don't you think that that's

562
00:49:31.880 --> 00:49:38.239
a good ascertainment of what it transpired
there? Yeah, I mean, hey,

563
00:49:38.280 --> 00:49:42.280
look, I don't want to take
credit for everything too. Like there's

564
00:49:42.280 --> 00:49:45.800
a guy on Twitter as well.
He goes by free State Will. It's

565
00:49:45.880 --> 00:49:49.360
Will Pope. He's another defendant,
he's pro se. I mean, he

566
00:49:49.880 --> 00:49:52.639
posts so much video confirming that.
I mean, yeah, Antifa was there,

567
00:49:52.880 --> 00:49:57.719
and I don't want to discount that
Antifa were agitators at the Capitol.

568
00:49:57.760 --> 00:49:59.800
We found a lot of them,
and I was in jail with some of

569
00:49:59.840 --> 00:50:04.000
them. But like they're also like
straight up federal agents, people who are

570
00:50:04.039 --> 00:50:07.079
who are connected to three letter agencies. We call them the Fed brigade.

571
00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:12.320
And he has a lot of video
showing them talking about it and bragging about

572
00:50:12.360 --> 00:50:15.719
it that day. So there are
all kinds of people connected to the Defense

573
00:50:15.760 --> 00:50:22.920
Intelligence Agency, all kinds like FBI, CIA, All these people were there.

574
00:50:23.039 --> 00:50:29.239
There's even video of like in uniform
officers from the BOP Bureau of Prisons

575
00:50:29.280 --> 00:50:31.519
that were called up for backup that
day, who are up there on video

576
00:50:31.719 --> 00:50:35.239
trying to stay out of sight because
they you know, it's bad optics.

577
00:50:35.800 --> 00:50:37.719
So, I mean, every three
letter agency you can think of, we

578
00:50:37.960 --> 00:50:42.239
know they were there to win site
January sixth. It's just a matter of

579
00:50:42.280 --> 00:50:45.719
the government refusing to acknowledge it or
the media to acknowledge it. But I

580
00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:50.679
mean, more to the point,
you know, you really, you really

581
00:50:50.760 --> 00:50:52.880
gotta, you really gotta think about
this. They just had they were just

582
00:50:53.039 --> 00:50:58.559
occupying Congress not too long ago over
that uh, over the you know,

583
00:50:58.639 --> 00:51:01.079
over the the stuff with the Middle
East. Yeah, yeah, I mean

584
00:51:01.920 --> 00:51:07.119
this is Look, there's two ways
to look at this. In terms of

585
00:51:07.639 --> 00:51:12.800
protests and in terms of riots,
you know, these are riots aren't new

586
00:51:12.840 --> 00:51:15.519
in America. I mean, it's
sorry to say it, but like they're

587
00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:17.639
just not. And in terms of
protests, whether you want to talk about

588
00:51:17.679 --> 00:51:22.360
civil rights or the peace movement,
anti war, whether you want to talk

589
00:51:22.360 --> 00:51:24.480
about like the labor movement. You
know, it used to be that the

590
00:51:24.599 --> 00:51:29.320
left was the ones persecuted by the
Feds, and so the pendulum can always

591
00:51:29.320 --> 00:51:31.320
swing in the other direction. This
is why it's a bad precedent. But

592
00:51:31.920 --> 00:51:36.000
even in terms of riots, you
know, this is why Joe Biden's a

593
00:51:36.079 --> 00:51:40.360
terrible leader, because George Washington,
John Adams, they pardoned people engaged in

594
00:51:40.480 --> 00:51:49.000
actual rebellions, and even Lincoln was
even Lincoln had plans to be pretty we'll

595
00:51:49.000 --> 00:51:52.000
say, conciliatory during the actual Civil
War. You know, meanwhile, a

596
00:51:52.039 --> 00:51:55.199
bunch of guys with flagpoles and stuff
like that, it's locked them up for

597
00:51:55.280 --> 00:51:59.719
the rest of their lives. It
makes no sense. And that just shows

598
00:51:59.760 --> 00:52:01.960
you that they're trying to cover something
up. They're just trying to hide stuff.

599
00:52:02.079 --> 00:52:08.320
It's all about a narrative, you
know, it's absolutely bananas. Yeah,

600
00:52:08.880 --> 00:52:12.719
Well, the guy was tim the
guy was telling me about air This

601
00:52:12.920 --> 00:52:16.639
James Little, this truck driver from
uh North Carolina, first sentenced by Lamberth

602
00:52:16.719 --> 00:52:20.920
to in early twenty twenty two to
sixty days in prison and three years of

603
00:52:20.960 --> 00:52:25.599
probation after pleading guilty to illegally parading
at the capitol. But his public defenders

604
00:52:25.760 --> 00:52:30.119
argued prison time and probation can't be
combined for a single petty misdemeanor charge.

605
00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:36.159
The US Court of Appeals from the
DC Circuit agreed, And and this was

606
00:52:36.239 --> 00:52:39.400
back in August. He'd already served
his time and about half his probation,

607
00:52:39.559 --> 00:52:44.360
so he asked to be set loose. Instead, Lambert sends him anew to

608
00:52:44.480 --> 00:52:47.000
two more months in prison, saying
he'd showed no remorse or respect for the

609
00:52:47.039 --> 00:52:53.679
criminal justice system since the riot.
You know what, you know, what's

610
00:52:53.679 --> 00:52:59.960
interesting is like there's really case law. Actually this might seem counter on two

611
00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:04.880
who it might not. You don't
have to show remorse, as dumb as

612
00:53:04.920 --> 00:53:09.000
that might sound like, you remorse
might get you a lower sentence, but

613
00:53:09.239 --> 00:53:15.559
according to actual case law, you
don't have to show remorse if you maintain

614
00:53:15.679 --> 00:53:20.199
your innocence. And it's actually like
they're really not supposed to be getting people

615
00:53:20.360 --> 00:53:27.320
exorbitant sentences for not showing remorse because
you already get a reduction in your sentence

616
00:53:27.360 --> 00:53:30.639
in guidelines when you take a plea
deal. So it doesn't even make sense.

617
00:53:31.320 --> 00:53:35.000
None of this makes sense. And
if you think about, like there's

618
00:53:35.000 --> 00:53:37.599
this thing called the trial tax.
So like I went to trial and I

619
00:53:37.679 --> 00:53:42.760
got a three point enhancement for supposedly
lying on the stand or would they say

620
00:53:43.199 --> 00:53:45.760
providing material false testimony. It's like, well, no, I didn't lie.

621
00:53:45.880 --> 00:53:50.239
I just testified in my defense because
that's my right. But you get

622
00:53:50.280 --> 00:53:52.719
a three point enhancement if you do
that. But you get a three point

623
00:53:52.800 --> 00:53:55.199
reduction if you bend the knee and
take a plea deal. So there's a

624
00:53:55.360 --> 00:54:00.599
six point difference in how they grade
your sentence based on what if you go

625
00:54:00.719 --> 00:54:06.360
to trial or you don't. And
so really you have a system of justice

626
00:54:06.719 --> 00:54:09.199
where these judges, like again it's
like maybe they're not all bad. Maybe

627
00:54:09.239 --> 00:54:15.559
they're just part of a machine that
just they're just they just can't like remove

628
00:54:15.639 --> 00:54:22.039
themselves from psychologically to think about this
objectively. But whatever the case may be,

629
00:54:22.159 --> 00:54:23.480
I don't want to slander all these
judges, but it just seems like

630
00:54:25.199 --> 00:54:30.000
there there We're just in a situation
now where it's been the knee or we

631
00:54:30.119 --> 00:54:36.000
will destroy you. And you know
you can't do that. You can't.

632
00:54:36.119 --> 00:54:43.079
You can't keep leveling someone settenced up
over misdemeanors. Most misdemeanor cases should be

633
00:54:43.199 --> 00:54:46.239
time served or even just get it
like here's a pay a fine, like

634
00:54:46.360 --> 00:54:52.199
like here's an example. And you
know it's not like the prettiest example because

635
00:54:52.239 --> 00:54:57.519
you know the real world that the
real reality is man Like, a growing

636
00:54:57.639 --> 00:55:01.440
number of Americans have criminal histories.
So you know, there was this guy

637
00:55:01.480 --> 00:55:04.599
I was locked up with. He
was one of the first people I met

638
00:55:04.639 --> 00:55:08.320
on con Air. Is the January
sixth senant named Michael Curzio. Michael Curzio

639
00:55:08.440 --> 00:55:14.920
went to prison for like seven years
for first degree attempted murder. His story

640
00:55:15.159 --> 00:55:19.280
is it's a it's an interesting story. I don't judge him for it based

641
00:55:19.280 --> 00:55:22.719
on what he's actually told me about
it. It seems like he was kind

642
00:55:22.760 --> 00:55:27.360
of screwed by the courts. But
he went to prison and he had to

643
00:55:27.480 --> 00:55:31.239
join a gang for his own protection. Yeah, so this is this is

644
00:55:31.280 --> 00:55:36.239
state prison. So but this was
this was a while ago. So his

645
00:55:36.440 --> 00:55:39.559
judge used and this is like one
of the best judges actually is Judge Nichols.

646
00:55:39.760 --> 00:55:43.880
He's the guy who actually tossed out
the fifteen twelve charge that's in the

647
00:55:43.960 --> 00:55:49.159
Supreme Court now. But his judge
initially was like, you're basically you're the

648
00:55:49.280 --> 00:55:51.840
worst thing in the world, and
I'm not going to give you bond.

649
00:55:52.159 --> 00:55:55.719
But he was only given misdemeanors and
he was actually arrested in the Capitol building.

650
00:55:57.039 --> 00:55:59.599
He was right next to me in
the Capital Visitor Center. They arrested

651
00:55:59.639 --> 00:56:02.079
him right there and they let him
go that day, and then then the

652
00:56:02.199 --> 00:56:07.559
FEDS raided him in Florida a week
later, but they still only gave him

653
00:56:07.559 --> 00:56:13.119
a misdemeanors, so they held him. They held him in the dcjail for

654
00:56:13.199 --> 00:56:17.360
a solid six months just because they
wanted him to do his entire sentence no

655
00:56:17.559 --> 00:56:21.760
time served. He had to do
the full six months for the plea deal

656
00:56:21.840 --> 00:56:25.639
he took. And so like it
just seems like for everybody, no matter

657
00:56:25.840 --> 00:56:31.079
what, there's always variations. But
for every single case, there's some like

658
00:56:31.239 --> 00:56:37.039
there's just some they want to get
their pound of flesh somehow. Tim Haale,

659
00:56:37.559 --> 00:56:38.880
Tim Hale, I'm sorry, I'm
out of time now, but we

660
00:56:39.039 --> 00:56:44.880
will talk again if you're if you're
willing, Okay, I'm always willing,

661
00:56:45.000 --> 00:56:47.920
all right, I appreciate it.
It's the Nightcap on seven hundred WLW.

662
00:56:49.320 --> 00:56:52.119
Tackling a renovation, remodel or clean
out Rumky Waist and recycling can help.

663
00:56:52.199 --> 00:56:58.440
Rumpky can quickly deliver. Monday evening, January twenty Nights twenty twenty four.

664
00:56:58.760 --> 00:57:02.079
The playoffs, well, the playoffs
are over. It's just the big Kahuna

665
00:57:02.159 --> 00:57:07.920
now the super Bowl in Las Vegas, where my Kansas City Chiefs will meet

666
00:57:07.400 --> 00:57:13.480
with the resurgent San Francisco forty nine
ers. That was quite a good Both

667
00:57:13.559 --> 00:57:17.679
were hell of games yesterday. They
really were. To talk about this and

668
00:57:17.800 --> 00:57:22.039
more is our friend wild Man Walker, who joins us once again on a

669
00:57:22.159 --> 00:57:29.159
night Cap. Wild Man first and
foremost. You do know that we had

670
00:57:30.719 --> 00:57:36.519
our friend, now our mutual friend, James Serger or Jim Serger on earlier

671
00:57:36.599 --> 00:57:39.599
in the show to talk about the
book Jump the fortieth anniversary of attending the

672
00:57:39.679 --> 00:57:45.920
nineteen eighty four Van Halen concert March
of twenty twenty four at the Cincinnati Gardens.

673
00:57:45.599 --> 00:57:51.800
Now, he didn't mention you specifically
in our interview, but you were

674
00:57:51.840 --> 00:57:54.519
there too, at that show.
Absolutely, I was there. I still

675
00:57:54.559 --> 00:57:59.519
have my ticket stub and I have
a signed picture by Eddie van Halen because

676
00:57:59.519 --> 00:58:04.039
I had a action to get something
by Eddie signed. So I was there.

677
00:58:04.079 --> 00:58:06.960
I didn't see those I didn't see
those guys there. But boy,

678
00:58:07.039 --> 00:58:08.559
that show was awesome too. It
was a heck of a show. I

679
00:58:08.639 --> 00:58:13.159
never I only saw one van Halen
one bad van Halen show. You know

680
00:58:13.239 --> 00:58:15.960
why that was so bad? Why
it's when they had that former lead singer

681
00:58:16.000 --> 00:58:20.559
from Extreme Oh, Gary Sarone.
No, you don't have van Halen with

682
00:58:20.639 --> 00:58:23.800
Gary Sharone. No, No,
we walked We walked out of the show.

683
00:58:24.440 --> 00:58:28.519
We walked out of the show at
River Been. It was so bad.

684
00:58:29.920 --> 00:58:35.239
Oh, man, Of every other
van Halen show with Dave or Sammy,

685
00:58:35.360 --> 00:58:37.320
they were always great, they were
always great. Yeah, no doubt

686
00:58:37.320 --> 00:58:40.960
about it. So you remember that
particular night at the Cincinnati Gardens. What

687
00:58:42.320 --> 00:58:45.559
what did you Yeah, what did
you think of the Cincinnati Gardens as a

688
00:58:45.639 --> 00:58:50.280
concert venue? Wild man? It
was Well, it was the perfect place

689
00:58:50.360 --> 00:58:53.159
at the perfect time in the eighties
with all those big hair bands rolling in

690
00:58:53.320 --> 00:58:58.480
because the Colisseum really didn't know,
I don't know what they were doing but

691
00:58:59.079 --> 00:59:00.760
somehow the gardens were able to pull
it off and get all those big hair

692
00:59:00.840 --> 00:59:04.119
bands in the air. And I
thought the sound was okay. I mean,

693
00:59:04.159 --> 00:59:07.079
they did try to improve it when
the late Jerry Robinson bought it.

694
00:59:07.159 --> 00:59:09.800
They did, you know, try
to improve the acoustics. But I saw

695
00:59:09.840 --> 00:59:14.440
a lot of really good shows there. I remember seeing Tom Petty there was

696
00:59:14.519 --> 00:59:19.360
with an awesome, awesome show.
Oh yeah, I can't imagine not seeing

697
00:59:20.159 --> 00:59:23.280
an awesome show with Tom Petty on
stage. God rest his soul. So

698
00:59:23.440 --> 00:59:30.519
anyway, let's get to the playoff
action yesterday, playoffs playoffs, and let's

699
00:59:30.599 --> 00:59:37.159
first talk about the San Francisco forty
nine Ers being in that twenty four to

700
00:59:37.320 --> 00:59:39.280
seven hole at halftime. You know, I'm sitting there watching the game,

701
00:59:39.360 --> 00:59:44.119
I'm going, man, the Lions
finally are going to break through and get

702
00:59:44.159 --> 00:59:46.320
to their very first Super Bowl.
Look at that, and then there was

703
00:59:46.400 --> 00:59:52.599
something in the back of my mind
that told me this lead is not going

704
00:59:52.679 --> 00:59:54.519
to last. I mean, I
knew at halftime when it was twenty four

705
00:59:54.519 --> 00:59:59.679
to seven that the Lions were not
going to be able to run willy nilly

706
00:59:59.800 --> 01:00:02.199
like they did in the first half
against that forty nine Ers defense. And

707
01:00:02.440 --> 01:00:10.440
I just had a sneaking suspicion that
McCaffrey and Deebo Samuels and Brock Purdy got

708
01:00:10.480 --> 01:00:15.760
who rushed for fifty two yards himself, and he's not exactly a speed demon

709
01:00:15.800 --> 01:00:19.599
out there in the field, but
Brock Perdy picked his spots. So,

710
01:00:19.800 --> 01:00:24.000
I mean, did you have an
idea that the forty nine ers were going

711
01:00:24.039 --> 01:00:28.440
to come back and win that game? At halftime? I had a you

712
01:00:28.519 --> 01:00:30.119
know, I was I was loving
that the Lions were winning, they were

713
01:00:30.199 --> 01:00:35.119
dominating, But at halftime, you
know, you know, I had an

714
01:00:35.199 --> 01:00:37.480
uneasy feeling. I wasn't sure,
and I was texting a bunch of my

715
01:00:37.599 --> 01:00:40.679
friends saying, the Lions need to
keep their foot on the neck of the

716
01:00:40.760 --> 01:00:44.119
forty nine ers. They need to
keep their neck, don't give up.

717
01:00:44.559 --> 01:00:49.960
And you know they make the halftime
adjustmentship they did that, the forty nine

718
01:00:50.039 --> 01:00:52.400
ers did, and of course you
had those goofy plays. You know what,

719
01:00:53.079 --> 01:00:57.280
It came down to two fourth downs, two fourth down plays, and

720
01:00:57.360 --> 01:01:00.199
you know, the Campbell decided he
want to go for when you're thirty yards

721
01:01:00.239 --> 01:01:02.920
out, you're on the road in
the playoffs, you kick the field goal.

722
01:01:04.079 --> 01:01:07.320
He was trying to get too cute
like Zach Taylor the other fourth and

723
01:01:07.719 --> 01:01:09.599
the other fourth down call. I
didn't have a problem with it. And

724
01:01:09.679 --> 01:01:15.239
of course Jared Goff he had a
terrible day in the second half on third

725
01:01:15.320 --> 01:01:19.679
downs. He could not complete a
pass. Some of his passes were drops.

726
01:01:19.880 --> 01:01:22.760
All of a sudden, the Lions
for some reason had the drop seas

727
01:01:22.440 --> 01:01:24.920
in the second half. So you
had the drop seas, you had Golf.

728
01:01:24.960 --> 01:01:28.880
You really could complete any third down
plays. You had that fumble,

729
01:01:29.239 --> 01:01:30.920
You had that fumble that you know
that cost him, that cost him over

730
01:01:31.000 --> 01:01:34.719
the three points or six points,
and all of a sudden you look up

731
01:01:34.760 --> 01:01:37.480
and the forty nine ers are ahead. Well, the play, the play

732
01:01:37.519 --> 01:01:44.840
where the pass bounces off the Lions
defender right into the arms of the receiver,

733
01:01:45.760 --> 01:01:49.199
you know, Brandon Aluk. I
think that's how you say is yeah,

734
01:01:49.639 --> 01:01:52.840
and that I mean, that's one
of those things that just like the

735
01:01:52.920 --> 01:01:58.760
immaculate reception, it's how does this
happen? Uh? Yeah, How in

736
01:01:58.880 --> 01:02:04.400
the world does the ball bounce that
way? And when that happened, I

737
01:02:04.519 --> 01:02:07.960
knew they were done this. Yeah, And it usually happens against the Bengals,

738
01:02:08.000 --> 01:02:10.400
those kind of plays, because I've
seen a lot of that happen.

739
01:02:12.119 --> 01:02:14.880
No, seriously, man, I
when when that happened, I go,

740
01:02:15.039 --> 01:02:19.960
Okay, either this is either this
is scripted or God just doesn't want the

741
01:02:20.079 --> 01:02:24.920
Lions to win. But the Dan
Campbell gambles, uh to me, we're

742
01:02:25.119 --> 01:02:30.039
just inexcusable. I know that's the
way he plays, and he's a he's

743
01:02:30.079 --> 01:02:34.159
a riverboat GA A different game.
Yeah, but it's a different game.

744
01:02:34.239 --> 01:02:37.119
And it's in the playoffs. You
know, it's not regular season. You

745
01:02:37.199 --> 01:02:38.400
know, it's it's just a different
game. You got to be thinking,

746
01:02:38.480 --> 01:02:42.400
and you're on the road. You're
on the road, just things that can

747
01:02:42.519 --> 01:02:45.280
go so wrong there, and you
know, you go, you know,

748
01:02:45.400 --> 01:02:47.320
you go buy you know, not
your heart, which I think Campbell was

749
01:02:47.400 --> 01:02:51.480
doing instead of you know, the
right decision. And I would have kicked

750
01:02:51.519 --> 01:02:52.960
that field goal. And I think
every family will tell you they should have

751
01:02:53.000 --> 01:02:55.599
kicked the field goal the first time
when I was four. That would have

752
01:02:55.639 --> 01:03:00.960
tied the game up. Well,
I think Dan Campbell after one the postgame

753
01:03:00.079 --> 01:03:05.840
press conference with him, I think
he would do it again and again again.

754
01:03:06.119 --> 01:03:12.639
And because he accepted no responsibility,
he didn't apologize, he didn't say,

755
01:03:12.679 --> 01:03:15.320
you know, I should have done
something different, when it was clear

756
01:03:15.519 --> 01:03:19.159
that he should have at least done
the one thirty yard attempt, he should

757
01:03:19.199 --> 01:03:22.920
have gone ahead and just tied the
damn score. Yeah, you know,

758
01:03:22.280 --> 01:03:29.039
and and he didn't do that.
It was just like he's somebody, obviously

759
01:03:29.679 --> 01:03:34.119
that did not learn from some of
the biggest mistakes in his professional life in

760
01:03:34.199 --> 01:03:37.199
that game. And you could hear
it in the postgame he just maybe he

761
01:03:37.400 --> 01:03:40.920
was just still in a state of
shock because they'd lost their opportunity to go

762
01:03:42.039 --> 01:03:46.119
to Las Vegas and the big game. But it seemed to me like he

763
01:03:46.320 --> 01:03:51.199
was a person who just you know, I'm not looking for anybody to apologize.

764
01:03:51.239 --> 01:03:53.079
I agree with no apologies, but
you got it. You gotta be

765
01:03:53.159 --> 01:03:57.920
accountable. You got to take the
blame. You know. He just blamed

766
01:03:57.920 --> 01:04:00.840
it kind of on the whole team, and it is a team spilot,

767
01:04:00.920 --> 01:04:04.360
but not executing or whatever. Using
an old line, not executing, right,

768
01:04:04.400 --> 01:04:06.519
he said, we just didn't do
it today. We didn't have it

769
01:04:06.639 --> 01:04:11.000
today. Well, one of the
reasons you didn't have it today is because

770
01:04:11.039 --> 01:04:15.719
the head coach you made a stupid
mistake in the biggest game of your life.

771
01:04:15.880 --> 01:04:18.199
And I didn't hear that from him
on the podium. I respect people

772
01:04:18.519 --> 01:04:21.519
who can say that they made a
mistake, but he wasn't going to do

773
01:04:21.639 --> 01:04:26.760
that. No, no, Well, the NFL got what they wanted.

774
01:04:26.880 --> 01:04:29.320
They wanted the Chiefs and they wanted
the forty nine Ers. So now we

775
01:04:29.400 --> 01:04:31.679
have to live with it. Well, it's a rematch of Super Bowl fifty

776
01:04:31.719 --> 01:04:36.079
four, four years ago when the
forty nine ers got beat Is there?

777
01:04:36.119 --> 01:04:39.639
Are you're ready for this? I
just sold this that this morning. The

778
01:04:39.719 --> 01:04:42.880
forty nine ers haven't won a Super
Bowl in thirty years? I know.

779
01:04:43.079 --> 01:04:45.760
Can you believe thirty years? It
was like it seemed like they were winning

780
01:04:45.760 --> 01:04:49.199
them every other year. It's been
thirty years as the forty nine ers won

781
01:04:49.280 --> 01:04:53.079
a Super Bowl. And I'll tell
you right now, I don't like either

782
01:04:53.119 --> 01:04:56.320
team in the Super Bowl, but
I gotta go with the forty nine Ers

783
01:04:56.360 --> 01:05:00.440
only because I'm sick of seeing the
Kansas City Chiefs. And that's same that

784
01:05:00.599 --> 01:05:02.480
singer. I'm not going to say
her name, that singer's face constantly all

785
01:05:02.559 --> 01:05:06.199
over TV. Why the NFL has
to show us that I'm sick of it,

786
01:05:06.519 --> 01:05:10.199
the world is sick of it,
and I'm pulling for the forty nine

787
01:05:10.280 --> 01:05:14.679
ers. You are troubled by the
cult of celebrity. I understand, wild

788
01:05:14.800 --> 01:05:17.199
Man. I am a Chiefs fan. I've been a Chiefs fan, and

789
01:05:17.320 --> 01:05:24.320
the introduction of that female singer that
you won't name doesn't mean one thing one

790
01:05:24.400 --> 01:05:28.440
way or another to me. It's
just, you know, it's celebrity.

791
01:05:29.239 --> 01:05:32.559
It's hard of seeing it. So
she has a boyfriend on the team.

792
01:05:32.599 --> 01:05:36.239
A lot of other women have boyfriends
on the team. It's just it's overkilled.

793
01:05:36.320 --> 01:05:40.440
Okay, it's overkilled. They don't
have to show her ten times a

794
01:05:40.519 --> 01:05:43.800
game, So show her once and
that and be done with it. So

795
01:05:43.960 --> 01:05:48.360
if if the other players have girlfriends
who are there in the stands, would

796
01:05:48.400 --> 01:05:54.440
you rather just the camera pan all
of them as well as Taylor Swift that

797
01:05:54.679 --> 01:05:57.000
you want to see any of them. I don't want to see any of

798
01:05:57.079 --> 01:05:59.840
them. I don't know what.
I don't know what they have to do

799
01:06:00.039 --> 01:06:02.039
at the game. I'm just there
to watch the game. But I know.

800
01:06:02.800 --> 01:06:08.360
But I watched the game too,
But I'm not easily triggered. It

801
01:06:08.519 --> 01:06:12.280
doesn't bother me. I think I
speak on behalf of a lot of people

802
01:06:12.320 --> 01:06:15.920
in this country that they're sick of
seeing that constantly, show it once and

803
01:06:15.039 --> 01:06:18.920
be done with it. And and
then and that game yesterday Gary between the

804
01:06:19.000 --> 01:06:24.599
Chiefs and the Ravens. Yeah,
it's it was so it was so proven

805
01:06:25.360 --> 01:06:29.360
that you could win games on a
regular basis, win big games if you

806
01:06:29.440 --> 01:06:34.760
have a tight end like Kelsey eleven
receptions. This is something that Bengals need

807
01:06:35.239 --> 01:06:40.480
really bad and their offense is a
tight end who can catch a pass at

808
01:06:40.559 --> 01:06:44.320
crucial times, at crucial times.
Now they had one three years ago and

809
01:06:44.440 --> 01:06:46.679
Tyler Ryford, unfortunately he couldn't stay
hurt. That guy could have been a

810
01:06:46.719 --> 01:06:50.480
Hall of Fame tight end. The
last really good tight end the Bengals head

811
01:06:50.840 --> 01:06:55.159
was Rodney Holman. And that's going
back a long way. Harrison Hurst was

812
01:06:55.400 --> 01:06:58.199
was very good. He wasn't great, he was very good, and then

813
01:06:58.320 --> 01:07:00.599
of course he went for Agosson and
Hurt. But they need a tight end.

814
01:07:00.599 --> 01:07:03.119
There's a number of them out out
there in the draft. Whether the

815
01:07:03.119 --> 01:07:06.079
Bengals can trade up or you know, get you get one of those tight

816
01:07:06.199 --> 01:07:10.480
ends and rounds maybe one or two, maybe two, maybe one, one

817
01:07:10.639 --> 01:07:14.440
or three. But they need a
tight end who can consistently get open and

818
01:07:14.559 --> 01:07:19.320
catch the pass. I don't think
erth Smith Junior or or Sample are real

819
01:07:19.400 --> 01:07:23.800
answers there. I agree no,
Now, sample sample is a great blocker.

820
01:07:24.320 --> 01:07:27.239
But IRV Smith, Erth Smith can't
catch a cold, I might as

821
01:07:27.239 --> 01:07:30.119
well have you in there a tight
end. Urth Smith can't catch a cold.

822
01:07:30.440 --> 01:07:33.280
So yesterday that was living proof that
the Bengals need a tight end in

823
01:07:33.360 --> 01:07:36.079
that offense, so they can get
a tight end that can catch the ball,

824
01:07:36.480 --> 01:07:39.440
you know, in the in the
hole, in the spaces that are

825
01:07:39.480 --> 01:07:43.480
there. On an assistent basis manner, offense could be unstoppable. But how

826
01:07:43.480 --> 01:07:46.559
about how about Zay Flowers? What
an idiot? Well, that guy's name

827
01:07:46.639 --> 01:07:50.719
isn't mud and Baltimore, nobody's name
is. Here's the thing, here's the

828
01:07:50.840 --> 01:07:55.800
thing about that you said it was. The key was Travis Kelcey for the

829
01:07:56.039 --> 01:08:00.880
Chiefs. I think the key was
how dumb the entire Baltimore team was.

830
01:08:01.360 --> 01:08:05.679
It seemingly at the end, not
just Sayflowers and the tawning thing, not

831
01:08:06.000 --> 01:08:13.320
just the fumble a foot from the
end zone holding the ball out, but

832
01:08:14.159 --> 01:08:17.359
but the other penalties that the Van
Noyd when he just came up and knocked

833
01:08:17.439 --> 01:08:21.359
pat Patrick Mahomes in the head for
no reason and gave him fifteen yards.

834
01:08:23.079 --> 01:08:28.279
There was stupid play after stupid play
after stupid play made by the Baltimore Ravens.

835
01:08:28.520 --> 01:08:34.279
The collective IQ is just north and
just barely north of Lamar Jackson's jersey

836
01:08:34.399 --> 01:08:43.239
number, which is eighty eight penalties
for ninety five yards Gary most undisciplined,

837
01:08:43.600 --> 01:08:48.279
stupid team I have seen at that
level in a long long time. And

838
01:08:48.439 --> 01:08:51.680
that's what it came down to.
It came down to football, IQ and

839
01:08:51.800 --> 01:08:57.640
Baltimore had none of it. And
it seems really kind of kept and check

840
01:08:58.079 --> 01:09:00.760
Lamar Jackson from running because he's really
a very good drop back quarterback. He

841
01:09:00.880 --> 01:09:04.840
really isn't. He doesn't really have
a real great strong arm, but they

842
01:09:04.920 --> 01:09:09.000
kept him from you know, running
out of the pocket. The Chiefs defense,

843
01:09:09.279 --> 01:09:10.880
give it, you know, give
them all the credit. Man.

844
01:09:11.319 --> 01:09:14.359
They played great, you know up
front and also in the secondary when he

845
01:09:14.479 --> 01:09:16.159
did try to complete the pass,
they were all over those guys. Well,

846
01:09:16.159 --> 01:09:18.960
the announcers kept on saying, you
know, you've got to keep Lamar

847
01:09:19.119 --> 01:09:24.319
east and west, not north and
south. And for most of the game

848
01:09:24.399 --> 01:09:29.479
the Chiefs did exactly that. Now
here's the Chiefs. They've not let anybody

849
01:09:29.760 --> 01:09:34.000
score more than twenty seven points against
them all season long. The defense is

850
01:09:34.439 --> 01:09:39.560
just unbelievable. It's like a different
Chiefs team with the same superstar quarterback,

851
01:09:39.640 --> 01:09:45.359
it really is, and the same
superstar tight end. But the Chiefs defense

852
01:09:45.880 --> 01:09:50.600
has been absolutely stifling to almost everyone
that they have faced this year, with

853
01:09:51.000 --> 01:09:56.479
one or technically in the second half
of the game. Right, So this

854
01:09:56.680 --> 01:10:00.720
is what And the Lions really didn't
have a very strong defense. It was

855
01:10:00.840 --> 01:10:04.239
noted that, you know, teams
can can score in the middle of the

856
01:10:04.279 --> 01:10:11.920
field off the Detroit Lions defense.
They're facing San Francisco, who have weapons

857
01:10:12.079 --> 01:10:17.760
galore all over the place, but
that Kansas City defense, man, it's

858
01:10:17.960 --> 01:10:20.800
like a blanket. And I think
that they'll be able to do some of

859
01:10:20.840 --> 01:10:24.840
the similar things to San Francisco in
the Super Bowl. What do you think?

860
01:10:26.079 --> 01:10:28.720
Well, I want to go back
there. You just mentioned Lamar Lamar

861
01:10:28.840 --> 01:10:32.319
Jackson. How about that stupid interception
he threw, Well, what was he

862
01:10:32.479 --> 01:10:35.560
thinking, right? And the covery
three guys down there? What was he

863
01:10:35.680 --> 01:10:42.840
thinking? He's thinking he's desperate and
needs a touchdown out of nothing. That's

864
01:10:42.880 --> 01:10:45.960
what he's trying to make something out
of nothing. Yeah, well, no,

865
01:10:45.439 --> 01:10:48.600
the defense, I mean, you
got you got to give him credit,

866
01:10:48.600 --> 01:10:50.920
and you know, the numbers don't
lie. You just said it.

867
01:10:51.199 --> 01:10:55.399
They haven't given up more than twenty
seven points. They're doing something right.

868
01:10:55.760 --> 01:10:59.239
The forty nine ers have a lot
of weapons. This could be This could

869
01:10:59.239 --> 01:11:01.680
be one of the the best games
ever possibly, you know, well offense

870
01:11:01.720 --> 01:11:05.520
and offense against defense. This could
be one of the best Super Bowls ever.

871
01:11:06.560 --> 01:11:09.640
All right, now, the line, I think the line I saw

872
01:11:09.800 --> 01:11:12.199
was two and a half, but
I didn't see who was favored. I

873
01:11:12.279 --> 01:11:14.760
did see. I think the line
was two and a half. Well,

874
01:11:15.039 --> 01:11:17.000
you know, as far as Kansas
City goes, you can throw the lines

875
01:11:17.039 --> 01:11:23.920
out. Buffalo is favored, Baltimore
was favored. It didn't matter and the

876
01:11:24.000 --> 01:11:27.119
Chiefs. That the whole thing about
the Chiefs having to go on the road

877
01:11:27.159 --> 01:11:30.760
and the playoffs and Patrick Mahomes never
winning a road playoff game or having the

878
01:11:30.920 --> 01:11:36.039
chance to be in a road playoff
game in the AFC Championship, all of

879
01:11:36.119 --> 01:11:40.520
that is is rewritten. Now.
Yeah, they shut every body up there,

880
01:11:40.680 --> 01:11:44.279
absolutely, So you know, you
can't really pay attention to point spreads.

881
01:11:44.359 --> 01:11:46.760
I mean, everybody listening who cares
about this will be because they'll be

882
01:11:46.840 --> 01:11:50.600
playing their fan duel or whatever.
But you know, there's plenty of other

883
01:11:50.680 --> 01:11:54.720
things to bet onto the Super Bowl, and I would stay oh yeah,

884
01:11:54.840 --> 01:11:58.760
I would stay away from actually picking
the winner in the game and concentrate on

885
01:11:58.920 --> 01:12:02.039
those other those other things, of
which they were about a million that you

886
01:12:02.159 --> 01:12:05.880
can bet on wild Man like a
coin flip. I always like the coin

887
01:12:06.039 --> 01:12:12.600
flip. Well you would what why
while I got John here? While I

888
01:12:12.640 --> 01:12:15.000
got you on here man? Real
quick? Fifteen days until Red's pictures and

889
01:12:15.119 --> 01:12:20.840
catchers report for spring training in Goodyear, Arizona. Fifteen days and that's definitely

890
01:12:20.920 --> 01:12:25.439
something to be excited about. What
about if Taylor Swift flips the coin wild

891
01:12:25.520 --> 01:12:30.720
Man? Oh, don't say that. St'll say her name while we're talking

892
01:12:30.880 --> 01:12:33.720
man, come on, wild Man
Walker. Thank you very much for your

893
01:12:33.800 --> 01:12:38.800
time, as always, my friend, Garry, always a pleasure to talk

894
01:12:38.840 --> 01:12:42.359
to you, and I will talk
to you soon, all right. His

895
01:12:42.560 --> 01:12:48.239
chance to speak now is Taylor's album
suggested wild Man Walker. And we'll take

896
01:12:48.279 --> 01:12:53.760
a break and come back with more
on seven under WLW. Let's talk about

897
01:12:53.800 --> 01:12:57.279
Scott's loan whndy you listen. I
like to listen while I'm walking the dog.

898
01:12:57.439 --> 01:12:59.800
That sounds like fun. I like
to listen to his show while I'm

899
01:12:59.840 --> 01:13:00.880
in the steam room. Oh,
I might try that one. I like

900
01:13:00.960 --> 01:13:03.439
to listen to a show while I'm
at work because it drowns out the sound

901
01:13:03.520 --> 01:13:06.800
of my idiot boss. Not a
bad idea. I listened to his podcast

902
01:13:06.880 --> 01:13:11.319
when my husband is watching one of
those stupid Star Wars movies. I guess

903
01:13:11.479 --> 01:13:15.239
anytime is the right time for Sloany. You got that right, Scott Sloan

904
01:13:15.520 --> 01:13:19.439
Tomorrow morning at nine on seven hundred
WLW, and check out his podcast on

905
01:13:19.520 --> 01:13:25.479
the free iHeartRadio app. Ready,
it is the Nightcap into another hour on

906
01:13:25.600 --> 01:13:30.159
this Monday evening, January twenty nine, twenty twenty four. Sounds weird every

907
01:13:30.199 --> 01:13:32.840
time I say the date. I
just haven't gotten used to it. It's

908
01:13:32.840 --> 01:13:35.840
been a whole month. I need
to really wake up and get with the

909
01:13:35.920 --> 01:13:41.319
program. Here, Gary Jeff Walker
on the night Cap and joining us our

910
01:13:41.520 --> 01:13:45.359
favorite man. She's my favorite I
love and I know you love her too,

911
01:13:45.439 --> 01:13:49.600
because you've told me. The one
and only spouting off Lady Karen Catalene

912
01:13:49.800 --> 01:13:55.000
is back with us for a brief
conversation tonight. It's always good to have

913
01:13:55.119 --> 01:14:00.359
KK along for the ride, Miss
Cataline, how are you well through?

914
01:14:00.399 --> 01:14:03.760
Gary Jeff Walker, it's a pleasure. And you don't see this, but

915
01:14:03.920 --> 01:14:10.760
I'm blushing because I'm humbled, and
I'm sure you know, we both talked

916
01:14:10.760 --> 01:14:14.680
to some really amazing people. So
well, you're very kind. It's easy.

917
01:14:15.600 --> 01:14:17.840
It's easy to be effusive in my
praise when it's warranted, dear,

918
01:14:19.000 --> 01:14:24.159
So I'm fine. So I wanted
to ask you about this. We now

919
01:14:24.239 --> 01:14:29.560
have three American servicemen and apparently,
finally the Department of Defense is waking up

920
01:14:29.600 --> 01:14:31.840
to there's a problem with Iran,
even though we should have been at war

921
01:14:31.920 --> 01:14:38.359
with Iran since nineteen seventy nine when
they took over our sovereign territory, i

922
01:14:38.479 --> 01:14:43.560
e. Our embassy in Tehran and
kept all those Americans hostage for four hundred

923
01:14:43.600 --> 01:14:47.119
and forty four days. But you
know, I don't know why the Biden

924
01:14:47.159 --> 01:14:54.199
administration is worried about a wider conflict, because the conflict has been taken to

925
01:14:54.439 --> 01:14:57.800
us, and it's not just the
latest thing. And it's a tragic thing

926
01:14:57.880 --> 01:15:00.279
anytime American lives are lost or any
law. So okay, let's put it

927
01:15:00.279 --> 01:15:08.119
in those context. But it's the
drone strike that killed these American servicemen at

928
01:15:08.159 --> 01:15:15.840
the base in Jordan was one of
one hundred and seventy some strikes by Iranian

929
01:15:15.039 --> 01:15:19.159
backed forces, whether they be the
Huti rebels in Yemen, whether they be

930
01:15:20.079 --> 01:15:27.399
any one of these Islamist terror groups. They're all funded by Iran, and

931
01:15:27.640 --> 01:15:31.640
I don't understand. There's got to
be something that could be done to stop

932
01:15:31.720 --> 01:15:36.159
Iran in their tracks. I noticed
that they were fairly silent during the Trump

933
01:15:36.239 --> 01:15:44.520
administration, and it seems like anytime
there is an American presidential administration that shows

934
01:15:44.640 --> 01:15:47.760
any sign of strength at all,
a lot of these players seem to back

935
01:15:47.840 --> 01:15:51.079
off. But Iran is going full
tilt at us right now because of the

936
01:15:51.159 --> 01:15:57.680
weakness of Biden and the administration.
Your thoughts on any of that, well,

937
01:15:58.159 --> 01:16:02.520
I hate to be comes back,
and these are just hunches because we

938
01:16:02.720 --> 01:16:09.960
have a very questionable press that doesn't
always report. They seem to only report

939
01:16:10.039 --> 01:16:14.399
the stuff they think we're supposed to
think, and they leave out loads and

940
01:16:14.479 --> 01:16:17.800
loads of information that doesn't fit the
narrative. So with that in mind,

941
01:16:18.119 --> 01:16:23.119
I think it's important for all people
who want to, you know, pursue

942
01:16:23.159 --> 01:16:27.399
the truth, to recognize there's a
lot we don't know. But if you

943
01:16:27.479 --> 01:16:30.720
look at the track record of the
left, which is now controlled by the

944
01:16:31.039 --> 01:16:42.159
radical communists. They have always done
business with Iran. POTUS forty four was

945
01:16:42.279 --> 01:16:48.600
pushing a Iran deal that would help
Iran get nuclear weapons, And so you

946
01:16:48.760 --> 01:16:55.800
have to look at it in the
context of what we've already seen in actions

947
01:16:55.960 --> 01:17:00.520
rather than in words. So when
our government says we are worried about Iran

948
01:17:00.680 --> 01:17:04.600
and we don't know what's going to
happen, it bothers me when some people,

949
01:17:05.279 --> 01:17:11.600
not yourself, believe the rhetoric but
they don't believe the actions. We

950
01:17:11.720 --> 01:17:17.760
need to be very careful about what
we believe from an administration, for example,

951
01:17:18.319 --> 01:17:23.800
that says that they support Israel's so
called right does exist. Why does

952
01:17:23.840 --> 01:17:28.760
a postage stamp of a country have
to fight for its right to exist?

953
01:17:28.920 --> 01:17:35.239
Anyway? When they assist Israel's enemies, that's merely one example where they have

954
01:17:36.119 --> 01:17:43.359
infiltrated involved themselves in Israeli elections to
get the weakest possible leaders. So you

955
01:17:43.560 --> 01:17:46.039
have to look at actions rather than
words. And when you do that,

956
01:17:47.000 --> 01:17:53.439
it's ugly because you realize, gosh, we really don't know what's truly going

957
01:17:53.520 --> 01:17:58.399
on, and unfortunately we have to
tell the truth about that, and we

958
01:17:58.680 --> 01:18:03.520
mourn more and more loss of our
soldiers. But it bought no bucks about

959
01:18:03.560 --> 01:18:10.119
it, no qualifications. What we
have to ask ourselves is this conflict another

960
01:18:10.800 --> 01:18:15.520
conflict to manipulate public opinion in one
way or another? And the I don't

961
01:18:15.560 --> 01:18:18.399
know the answer to that. Well, it's interesting, you know, the

962
01:18:18.760 --> 01:18:25.520
the UNRAH thing with the U N. The UE obviously has their own uh,

963
01:18:26.119 --> 01:18:31.640
their own mission to control, to
control and to continue taking American taxpayer

964
01:18:31.760 --> 01:18:36.079
dollars because we fund the UN,
to the to the team to the hilt.

965
01:18:36.880 --> 01:18:41.159
So now we find out we find
out that a UN agency known as

966
01:18:41.279 --> 01:18:49.960
UNRA was participating members were participating in
the awful terrorist attack on October seventh in

967
01:18:50.119 --> 01:18:56.159
Israel. And they're supposed to be
an aid organization. Well they were aiding,

968
01:18:56.560 --> 01:18:59.800
certainly, but who were they aiding? And what were they what were

969
01:18:59.800 --> 01:19:03.640
they describing as aid? We know
now it. But I've never been a

970
01:19:03.720 --> 01:19:08.520
fan of the UN. Not for
forty years have I been a fan of

971
01:19:08.560 --> 01:19:15.720
the UN. I don't understand why
we pay billions of dollars to this worldwide

972
01:19:15.840 --> 01:19:19.439
organization that hates US and hates Israel. I just don't understand it. Well,

973
01:19:20.119 --> 01:19:25.399
the glib answer is that there are
way too many people in this country

974
01:19:25.479 --> 01:19:30.800
who are actual American citizens who also
hate America and who also hate Americans.

975
01:19:30.319 --> 01:19:34.279
Otherwise we wouldn't be in the predicament
we're in now. But beyond that,

976
01:19:34.560 --> 01:19:38.399
I have to go back to the
case in point. That's an example of

977
01:19:38.479 --> 01:19:45.720
what I'm talking about, the rhetoric
versus the actions people have to Everybody has

978
01:19:45.840 --> 01:19:49.399
to stop thinking that, you know, this is the America of old.

979
01:19:49.479 --> 01:19:54.680
I'm sorry to say that it's a
totally different American than we know at the

980
01:19:54.800 --> 01:19:59.800
moment. We hope and pray it
will go back to being bound by the

981
01:20:00.039 --> 01:20:06.760
Constitution and the constraints of our of
our constitution, and right now that is

982
01:20:06.960 --> 01:20:13.079
not the case. But also we
see the level of propaganda that says that

983
01:20:13.199 --> 01:20:16.439
whatever they say, the opposite is
true. So if you look at that

984
01:20:16.640 --> 01:20:20.960
track record, you can't possibly take
them at their word. But that doesn't

985
01:20:21.000 --> 01:20:27.000
mean you believe every so called conspiracy
theory either. You have to know that

986
01:20:27.560 --> 01:20:30.279
a lot is going on behind the
scenes that we don't know. The UN

987
01:20:30.439 --> 01:20:34.079
has always you know, I don't
remember when this was, but there were

988
01:20:34.199 --> 01:20:40.279
terrorist countries in charge of lowering terrorism. I mean, I mean talk about

989
01:20:41.079 --> 01:20:45.319
talk about a joke, a total
joke, a corrupted joke. So the

990
01:20:45.439 --> 01:20:49.760
alliances that go on a case in
point. I don't know how long you

991
01:20:49.840 --> 01:20:58.640
have. I just read I'm backed
up on my news, so I admit

992
01:20:58.720 --> 01:21:00.760
it, you know, because I'm
doing a little less talk radio and than

993
01:21:00.840 --> 01:21:06.119
I was before. I do still
have a website, shameless plug at Karencataline

994
01:21:06.159 --> 01:21:10.479
dot com. But but you know, I fill in for people and so

995
01:21:10.680 --> 01:21:13.239
forth, and I'm not doing a
regular show right now, so I'm a

996
01:21:13.279 --> 01:21:16.760
little backed up on the news.
But I watched a video of Carrie Lake

997
01:21:17.439 --> 01:21:27.760
talking about how the head of the
Arizona Republican Party Republican Party tried to bribe

998
01:21:27.840 --> 01:21:30.640
her to get out of the race, and she had the wherewithal of the

999
01:21:30.840 --> 01:21:36.880
four sides, not only to take
that conversation so she had proof, but

1000
01:21:38.159 --> 01:21:45.039
also she has unmistakable integrity. She
cannot be bought. There's so preciously few

1001
01:21:45.159 --> 01:21:47.800
people like that and our government because
it's one of the reasons they got into

1002
01:21:47.840 --> 01:21:53.119
government. You know, the loads
and loads of people who are millionaires now

1003
01:21:53.479 --> 01:21:57.880
and have been in government for forty
years. But Carrie Lake is a threat

1004
01:21:58.000 --> 01:22:02.520
to all of them, simply because
she has integrity, and she has guts

1005
01:22:02.600 --> 01:22:10.359
and she's she's an impressive woman.
So now because she exposed this corruption to

1006
01:22:10.439 --> 01:22:15.239
the light of day, the guy, the guy resigned. Okay, yeah,

1007
01:22:15.520 --> 01:22:18.680
and that is that is a blueprint
for what to do, which is

1008
01:22:18.840 --> 01:22:26.319
to stay hold type to your convictions, type to your accountability to something greater

1009
01:22:26.439 --> 01:22:30.800
than government. Oh say God,
and know that you're doing the right thing

1010
01:22:31.079 --> 01:22:34.520
and you may be punished for it
now, but in the end, if

1011
01:22:34.560 --> 01:22:40.119
you expose it to the light of
day and you understand who some of these

1012
01:22:40.239 --> 01:22:45.760
people are not all, then you
have a weapon they don't have, and

1013
01:22:45.880 --> 01:22:50.920
that's being willing to tell the truth. Well, the thing is, Karen,

1014
01:22:51.640 --> 01:22:59.560
this is again why they have tried
to minimize minimalize her at all costs.

1015
01:22:59.640 --> 01:23:03.119
It's they pulled whatever they pulled in
the election, the last election to

1016
01:23:03.239 --> 01:23:08.199
keep her out of office. Is
because, as you mentioned, she obviously

1017
01:23:08.319 --> 01:23:14.399
cannot be bought definitely not by those
anti American forces at work in the Arizona

1018
01:23:14.520 --> 01:23:18.039
GOP Republican Party, but also just
in general. And this is one of

1019
01:23:18.079 --> 01:23:24.720
the reasons because they they've done the
same thing to Donald Trump over and over

1020
01:23:24.800 --> 01:23:29.560
and over again. And he also
I don't know, I don't have an

1021
01:23:29.640 --> 01:23:34.239
altruistic opinion of Donald Trump, but
I know what he did. And you

1022
01:23:34.399 --> 01:23:38.680
talk, you know, talk about
words rather than actions. Actions are what

1023
01:23:38.880 --> 01:23:42.279
really mattered, not words. Yes
they do, Yes, they do.

1024
01:23:42.560 --> 01:23:46.079
The actions that he took while he
was president, for the most part,

1025
01:23:46.239 --> 01:23:50.720
except during the scamdemic, were prudent
and they were the right things to do.

1026
01:23:51.359 --> 01:23:57.560
And any people have such short memories, you know, Donald Trump was

1027
01:23:57.600 --> 01:24:00.000
the darling of the left when he
wasn't a political candidate with an R after

1028
01:24:00.079 --> 01:24:03.039
his name. All they wanted to
do is get close to him, just

1029
01:24:03.159 --> 01:24:08.600
like a Steven Spielberg. Now his
name is Matt and he's evil and he's

1030
01:24:08.640 --> 01:24:12.039
a hitler, and he's the evilst
thing in the world, and they cannot

1031
01:24:12.640 --> 01:24:16.479
Anyway. It was Carrie Lake in
that same video, and I encourage people

1032
01:24:16.640 --> 01:24:20.359
to look at that video. If
I could post it on my Twitter page,

1033
01:24:20.760 --> 01:24:28.039
I would. It's at Karen Katleen, and that is she said,

1034
01:24:28.600 --> 01:24:33.560
if they're really after you hard,
you know that you're telling the truth and

1035
01:24:33.640 --> 01:24:38.079
you're in the right place. Okay, if they are not, or she

1036
01:24:38.279 --> 01:24:44.840
said, when Republicans are liked by
Democrats, when Republicans seem safe from criticism,

1037
01:24:44.960 --> 01:24:49.039
you know they're doing business with these
people. They've shown it again and

1038
01:24:49.159 --> 01:24:56.520
again and again. They are wholly
incapable of dissent, tolerating differences of opinion.

1039
01:24:57.000 --> 01:25:02.640
We've now crossed the rubicon into a
totalitarian mindset. It's my way or

1040
01:25:02.720 --> 01:25:06.199
the highway, and if you don't
go along, I'm going to punish you,

1041
01:25:06.319 --> 01:25:11.840
and I'm going to abuse my power
to do so. That's been their

1042
01:25:12.119 --> 01:25:16.279
mm. And yet look how quickly
this guy resigned simply because not only did

1043
01:25:16.359 --> 01:25:20.399
she tell the truth, but she
had the tape to back it up,

1044
01:25:20.800 --> 01:25:25.720
and they just couldn't do anything,
so they forced him to resign. On

1045
01:25:25.920 --> 01:25:29.800
that on that video, On that
audio, you hear the tape, and

1046
01:25:29.880 --> 01:25:31.760
he says, give me a number, give me a number. In other

1047
01:25:31.800 --> 01:25:35.840
words, what's it going to take
for us to pay you off. We're

1048
01:25:35.840 --> 01:25:41.960
going to get you a cheap,
little do nothing job with millions of dollars

1049
01:25:43.039 --> 01:25:46.079
so that you won't run for office. And she said, you mean be

1050
01:25:46.239 --> 01:25:53.439
bought. And as soon as you
tell the truth to people. That's an

1051
01:25:53.520 --> 01:25:59.520
example of what has been done by
everyday citizens for a while now. But

1052
01:25:59.600 --> 01:26:02.359
then there are whole lot of people
who still believe the revers you can't believe

1053
01:26:05.119 --> 01:26:15.399
no, no, no, the
whole of Nicky Haley, can't you know?

1054
01:26:15.479 --> 01:26:16.439
I want, I want, I
want to I want to get into

1055
01:26:16.520 --> 01:26:18.920
that you're kind of bourblin here in
a second. I want to see if

1056
01:26:18.920 --> 01:26:21.800
we can get a better signal,
Karen, because I was just about to

1057
01:26:21.920 --> 01:26:29.119
get in to Nicky Haley and and
talk about people who have been bought and

1058
01:26:29.279 --> 01:26:34.560
obviously paid for by by people who
do not want the people themselves to have

1059
01:26:34.680 --> 01:26:39.800
a voice in their government. I
mean, there is no common sense at

1060
01:26:39.840 --> 01:26:45.960
all that says that Nicky Haley should
even still be in the race. However,

1061
01:26:45.960 --> 01:26:54.399
she continues to persevere thanks to millions
of dollars being donated by people who

1062
01:26:54.439 --> 01:27:00.399
are lifelong Democrats and people who hate
Donald Trump. Well, this is the

1063
01:27:00.880 --> 01:27:04.560
side of Terry Lake. I mean, they're propping up her nothing campaign.

1064
01:27:05.159 --> 01:27:10.319
No grassroots, they hate it.
They can't stand her because she is the

1065
01:27:10.600 --> 01:27:18.800
emblematic of the Republican elite establishment that
seems to prefer communism to grassroots people having

1066
01:27:18.840 --> 01:27:24.279
a voice, or constitutionalism for that
matter. So they want to prop up

1067
01:27:24.319 --> 01:27:29.920
and pay Nikki Hayley to run,
to run a phony campaign with no support,

1068
01:27:30.319 --> 01:27:32.479
just like Chris Christy, like Mike
Pence, like all of them.

1069
01:27:32.800 --> 01:27:41.399
There was no there there ever,
and they want to pay Terry Lake not

1070
01:27:41.760 --> 01:27:45.920
to run for the same exact reason. This is you know what it is

1071
01:27:46.680 --> 01:27:51.720
if you love mob stories. This
is what mobsters do. As a matter

1072
01:27:51.760 --> 01:27:58.600
of fact, sometimes the government is
better at it. You know, it

1073
01:27:58.760 --> 01:28:02.279
is mob tactic. It's that you
know, I'm gonna you need to pay

1074
01:28:02.359 --> 01:28:06.520
me for your protection. Why I
don't need protection from whom? From us?

1075
01:28:10.760 --> 01:28:17.159
That's the tactic. It's arm twisting, to bullying tactics, to bribery,

1076
01:28:17.319 --> 01:28:21.800
blackmail, and you better do as
I say or else. There's nothing

1077
01:28:21.840 --> 01:28:30.079
amraitan about that. Americans have always
been people who revered dessent, even if

1078
01:28:30.600 --> 01:28:33.520
even if you can't stand the point
of view, you don't hate the person

1079
01:28:33.680 --> 01:28:42.760
personally. To personalizing everything, jumping
to conclusions and labeling everybody you hate as

1080
01:28:42.880 --> 01:28:50.119
the very bigoted labels that you claim
you were against all along. I mean,

1081
01:28:50.399 --> 01:28:55.039
that's the topsy turvy world. We're
limited. It's all ass backwards.

1082
01:28:55.760 --> 01:28:59.399
So I will, Karen, I
will leave you with this, and yes,

1083
01:28:59.600 --> 01:29:04.439
it's our friends at the Babylon Bee
again. Today's post No Wonder Dateline

1084
01:29:04.560 --> 01:29:11.359
Texas Bubba Broomstick Johnson, a proud
Texan and self procame protector of all things

1085
01:29:11.439 --> 01:29:15.479
lone Star, has declared that he's
been waiting for this moment his entire life,

1086
01:29:15.880 --> 01:29:19.079
the opportunity to finally dust off his
arsenal and defend Texas if a civil

1087
01:29:19.079 --> 01:29:25.439
war and invasion ever breaks out.
For years, Bubba's meticulously curated his collection

1088
01:29:25.520 --> 01:29:30.920
of firearms, affectionately referring to them
as his freedom dispensers. From his trustees

1089
01:29:30.000 --> 01:29:34.119
six shooters to a state of the
art assault rifles. Bubba's arsenal rivals that

1090
01:29:34.239 --> 01:29:39.000
of a small militia or at least
a moderately armed neighborhood. Watch. Oh

1091
01:29:39.159 --> 01:29:42.399
Lord, how blessed am I said
Bubba with a tear in his eye upon

1092
01:29:42.479 --> 01:29:46.119
reading the news the Texas Governor Abbott
intends to defend the Texas border no matter

1093
01:29:46.199 --> 01:29:49.359
what. And they tried to tell
me that I was wasting my money on

1094
01:29:49.479 --> 01:29:55.680
this. Here Gatlin gun stockpile of
C four and fully functioning civil war canon,

1095
01:29:55.920 --> 01:30:02.600
who's the dummy now lives? The
only problem with Battlelon B is that

1096
01:30:02.600 --> 01:30:09.520
it is hard sometimes to tell parody
from the truth. That's true, well,

1097
01:30:09.560 --> 01:30:12.800
it's it's always It's always easy to
hear the truth when I talk to

1098
01:30:12.840 --> 01:30:15.399
you, and I'm so glad that
you were available tonight. Thanks Karen Karen

1099
01:30:15.479 --> 01:30:20.479
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the wraps on this puppy tonight, And

1108
01:30:55.960 --> 01:31:00.640
I've been waiting for this guest literally
all week long, ever since I found

1109
01:31:00.640 --> 01:31:05.279
out he was available to talk to
us. This guest is a guy who

1110
01:31:05.399 --> 01:31:10.800
got a PhD from the University of
California, Santa Barbara from eighty five to

1111
01:31:10.920 --> 01:31:15.640
twenty sixteen. He taught at the
University of Dayton, and in his teaching

1112
01:31:15.720 --> 01:31:20.720
career he's taught every grade from seventh
all the way through college. So he

1113
01:31:20.840 --> 01:31:25.800
knows a little bit about getting the
facts right, I think, so he

1114
01:31:25.880 --> 01:31:30.039
can disseminate them properly to his students
over the years. But he's also written

1115
01:31:30.079 --> 01:31:34.840
this incredible book, A Patriots History
of Globalism, Its Rise and Decline.

1116
01:31:34.920 --> 01:31:39.960
Please welcome Larry Schweiker to the show. How you doing, Larry, Hey,

1117
01:31:40.119 --> 01:31:44.359
Gary, Good to talk to somebody
from OHI, oh yeah. Since

1118
01:31:44.399 --> 01:31:48.760
you were at UD all those years, you've returned to your roots in Arizona

1119
01:31:48.840 --> 01:31:53.840
though, and where you're sitting right
now in Chandler, Arizona was seventy seven

1120
01:31:53.920 --> 01:31:59.199
today. So we're not gonna We're
not going to say bad things about you

1121
01:31:59.479 --> 01:32:01.960
or anything else. I believe envy
is one of those deadly sins, so

1122
01:32:02.039 --> 01:32:06.000
I'll just let it go. But
I think I have a snow shovels somewhere

1123
01:32:06.039 --> 01:32:14.279
out there. Good for you.
First off, before you got into political

1124
01:32:14.399 --> 01:32:20.279
science and you got your Bachelor of
Arts and Political Science, you went on

1125
01:32:20.399 --> 01:32:25.039
the road. But afterwards you'd had
your degree and you went on the road

1126
01:32:25.119 --> 01:32:29.840
with several different rock bands in the
sixties and seventies. Tell me about that

1127
01:32:30.079 --> 01:32:33.520
for just a minute. What was
that experience like and what made you decide

1128
01:32:33.560 --> 01:32:39.000
to come back to the classroom.
Well, you know, I was playing

1129
01:32:39.039 --> 01:32:42.840
all the way through high school and
college, which explains why I have pretty

1130
01:32:42.880 --> 01:32:45.560
bad grades in college. But I
did get a BA in political science,

1131
01:32:45.600 --> 01:32:49.760
and literally the Sunday after I graduated, I was in a van on my

1132
01:32:49.840 --> 01:32:54.079
way to play in Peoria. Yeah, we played in Peoria. Well you

1133
01:32:54.119 --> 01:32:58.880
could play band. I went through
a number of bands. We ended up

1134
01:32:58.920 --> 01:33:03.479
opening for Steven Law that James Yang
Savoy Brown, We played The Troubadour in

1135
01:33:03.880 --> 01:33:10.159
La and The Who not the World
Health Organization. The Who came in and

1136
01:33:10.359 --> 01:33:14.520
sat next to the stage and when
we were John ol Pete Townsend, drunk

1137
01:33:14.520 --> 01:33:15.640
as a scum, came up and
slapped me on the back and said,

1138
01:33:15.680 --> 01:33:19.359
hey, we need to show what. So it was a fantastic experience.

1139
01:33:19.359 --> 01:33:24.920
I wouldn't trade it for anything.
But I decided around nineteen seventy six or

1140
01:33:24.960 --> 01:33:29.680
so I needed to make a change, and almost overnight I went into become

1141
01:33:29.800 --> 01:33:31.960
a history professor. I just set
my sights on that and that's where I

1142
01:33:32.079 --> 01:33:40.880
ended up. That's amazing. So
you just jokingly talked about the WHO,

1143
01:33:42.760 --> 01:33:45.000
not the band, but the World
Health Organization, And you want to talk

1144
01:33:45.039 --> 01:33:50.399
about a driver of globalism and has
been ever since its inception. There is

1145
01:33:50.600 --> 01:33:54.920
right now and a lot of people
do not know this because they're not paying

1146
01:33:54.920 --> 01:34:00.159
attention or they're just drive by listeners
or headline readers that uh, right now

1147
01:34:00.840 --> 01:34:04.840
is trying to coerce everyone in the
world to sign this pack that gives them

1148
01:34:04.960 --> 01:34:12.880
full autonomy the WHO, full autonomy
over your government. You're elected leaders for

1149
01:34:13.319 --> 01:34:17.600
future pandemics. They are doing that
right now, and nobody in the United

1150
01:34:17.640 --> 01:34:23.079
States except for a few of us, know that they're going for this global

1151
01:34:23.159 --> 01:34:29.880
compact to try and put all of
us worldwide under their thumb and what they

1152
01:34:30.039 --> 01:34:35.119
decigne is the best remedy for tackling
the next pandemic. You know about this,

1153
01:34:35.399 --> 01:34:40.840
right? Yeah, let's back up
for your listeners just a little bit,

1154
01:34:41.159 --> 01:34:45.479
because in a Patriot's history of globalism, this is part history and part

1155
01:34:45.600 --> 01:34:50.600
hope. But I try to show
that globalism is nothing new. I mean,

1156
01:34:50.640 --> 01:34:54.520
you can date it if you want
to go back to the tower babble,

1157
01:34:54.600 --> 01:34:59.319
that's fine. But I dated from
eighteen fourteen and the Congress of Vienna

1158
01:34:59.399 --> 01:35:03.600
where mana Ars tried globalism in Europe, and then you ended up after World

1159
01:35:03.640 --> 01:35:09.680
War One with diplomats trying globalism and
that failed. And then after World War

1160
01:35:09.760 --> 01:35:14.840
two, scientists tried to control the
atomic bond through globalism and that failed.

1161
01:35:14.880 --> 01:35:18.439
And then you got the bankers and
financial systems through the Breton Woods Agreements,

1162
01:35:18.920 --> 01:35:24.840
trying to control the world through globalism
and that failed. And the most recent

1163
01:35:24.920 --> 01:35:30.880
one is what you're talking about,
medical globalism through the World Health Organization,

1164
01:35:30.119 --> 01:35:35.439
and it's very concerning. And the
good news is they can't override the US

1165
01:35:35.560 --> 01:35:40.840
Constitution, and certainly the right people
and there can stomp this into the dirt.

1166
01:35:41.359 --> 01:35:44.680
Well, I mean, they're still
attempting to do it, and they're

1167
01:35:44.720 --> 01:35:50.119
getting more backlashes as they have.
Do you find that through history people who

1168
01:35:50.199 --> 01:35:57.279
have been trying to push globalism on
the entire world have eventually, because part

1169
01:35:57.319 --> 01:36:00.159
of the title of the book is
its rise and decline has risen and declined

1170
01:36:00.199 --> 01:36:03.760
several different times. Ye. So
do you think that the current populism and

1171
01:36:03.920 --> 01:36:10.079
nationalism will stop it in its tracks
once again? Ultimately? Yes, yes,

1172
01:36:10.199 --> 01:36:13.279
I do. I think the last
chapter of the book is full of

1173
01:36:13.399 --> 01:36:16.560
hope, whether it's the fact that
Soros has had to pull his operations out

1174
01:36:16.600 --> 01:36:20.199
of Europe, to the fact that
and this just came up yesterday, that

1175
01:36:20.399 --> 01:36:26.680
about seven or eight new euro nations
are having elections that are moving them further

1176
01:36:26.800 --> 01:36:30.840
to the right. That's on top
of places like Slovakia, Hungary, Italy,

1177
01:36:30.439 --> 01:36:38.159
Estonia, Argentina, dozens of nations
are moving I hate to use the

1178
01:36:38.279 --> 01:36:43.199
term to the right, but moving
toward a more populous, common sense notion

1179
01:36:43.439 --> 01:36:47.640
of nationalism. That Hungary should have
its own nation, that Argentina should be

1180
01:36:47.680 --> 01:36:51.800
its own nation, that America should
be our own nation and not subject to

1181
01:36:53.319 --> 01:36:58.680
international controls. And I think right
now, on every front, whether it's

1182
01:36:58.760 --> 01:37:03.479
woke, whether it's medical, whether
it's financial, I think I wouldn't call

1183
01:37:03.520 --> 01:37:08.680
if they're in route, but certainly
they're back on their heels. The globalists

1184
01:37:08.720 --> 01:37:12.840
are back on their heels and in
a state of retreat right now, and

1185
01:37:12.960 --> 01:37:15.720
we need to pour it on well, isn't it true? Though, when

1186
01:37:16.199 --> 01:37:19.800
you know they may be they may
even be a wounded animal, And when

1187
01:37:19.840 --> 01:37:23.840
they're backed into a corner, that's
when they're most dangerous and they try the

1188
01:37:23.920 --> 01:37:30.600
most the most sweeping kind of actions
to save themselves, like a I don't

1189
01:37:30.600 --> 01:37:33.079
know, like a parasite or a
disease. You know, when it's on

1190
01:37:33.199 --> 01:37:40.319
the run, it just tries to
infect everybody while it's dying. But you

1191
01:37:40.399 --> 01:37:44.079
know, you imagine, you're absolutely
you're absolutely right about that. And we

1192
01:37:44.239 --> 01:37:46.760
have to be weary, We have
to be cautious. One thing though,

1193
01:37:46.840 --> 01:37:53.800
I think people on the Rite or
Conservatives have been guilty of in the past,

1194
01:37:54.159 --> 01:37:59.119
say ten years or so. It's
kind of a mcclellanism on the historian.

1195
01:37:59.159 --> 01:38:02.680
You remember mclll in the Union General
would outnumber Robert E. Lee by

1196
01:38:02.720 --> 01:38:05.239
two or three times, and yet
he always thought he was the one that

1197
01:38:05.359 --> 01:38:10.439
was out numbered and would be timid
and afraid. And the Bible says God

1198
01:38:10.520 --> 01:38:13.520
hasn't given us a spirit of fear, but a power and of love and

1199
01:38:13.560 --> 01:38:15.640
of a sound mind. And I
think what we need to be cautious and

1200
01:38:15.760 --> 01:38:19.479
need to be observant, We need
to be on the attack. They need

1201
01:38:19.600 --> 01:38:24.359
to fear us and what we're going
to do not us be worried constantly about

1202
01:38:24.439 --> 01:38:31.359
them. And you filtered into a
recent conflict now with Iran ramping up ramping

1203
01:38:31.479 --> 01:38:36.920
up their attacks on US. We
had three US soldiers killed in the latest

1204
01:38:38.000 --> 01:38:44.000
drone attacks in that base in Jordan
and another thirty four of American troops injured

1205
01:38:44.479 --> 01:38:48.920
in that. And we know what's
Iran. Why has Joe Biden taken him

1206
01:38:48.960 --> 01:38:55.800
a mccleualist approach to Iran? I
mean, technically, if you look at

1207
01:38:55.840 --> 01:39:00.319
it, we should have been at
war with Iran since nineteen seventy nine when

1208
01:39:00.319 --> 01:39:04.960
they took over sovereign American territory in
the Iran embassy in Tehran and took our

1209
01:39:05.000 --> 01:39:10.920
American citizens hostage. We should have
been in a state a war with Iran

1210
01:39:11.000 --> 01:39:13.880
all along. What do they worried? They always talk about worried about the

1211
01:39:14.000 --> 01:39:17.880
wider conflict, And it's like the
conflict has been brought to us and it's

1212
01:39:18.000 --> 01:39:24.920
not new. It's not just with
Gaza and this particular war. Iran's been

1213
01:39:25.039 --> 01:39:29.880
doing this with the United States in
the West since nineteen seventy nine, ever

1214
01:39:30.000 --> 01:39:33.359
since the Shaw fell, Right,
Yeah, that's true, But look at

1215
01:39:33.399 --> 01:39:39.640
what else happened today. While everybody's
kind of focused on Iran, this just

1216
01:39:39.760 --> 01:39:42.880
came across and Usuare. A little
while ago, the US put troops on

1217
01:39:42.960 --> 01:39:45.600
the ground in Yemen. So this
is not good. I mean, the

1218
01:39:45.680 --> 01:39:53.159
American people pretty overwhelmingly do not want
any more foreign wars now, are pretty

1219
01:39:53.199 --> 01:39:57.840
opposed to that. Right now,
Could the Iranians be dealt with absolutely?

1220
01:39:57.960 --> 01:40:00.880
Look at the way President Trump dealt
with them. He took out Soliani in

1221
01:40:01.039 --> 01:40:04.159
one little drone strike and that put
the fear of God in them, and

1222
01:40:04.239 --> 01:40:10.640
they stayed quiet for about three years
exactly. So so this needs to be

1223
01:40:11.000 --> 01:40:15.960
done delicately but firmly. But Biden, whom I affectionately nicknamed Rude Bega,

1224
01:40:16.680 --> 01:40:28.000
has virtually no no cognitive ability of
grand strategy or anything, and so this

1225
01:40:28.319 --> 01:40:31.640
only works to harm him in the
general election. I see no way,

1226
01:40:31.800 --> 01:40:34.319
no matter which way he goes on
this, that he's going to come out

1227
01:40:34.399 --> 01:40:39.479
a winner in this conflict because A
he waited too long be he was on

1228
01:40:39.720 --> 01:40:44.359
Obama's side and giving the Uranians the
money in the first place. And see

1229
01:40:44.960 --> 01:40:46.760
right now, as I just said, the American people are pretty much opposed

1230
01:40:46.800 --> 01:40:53.760
to a wider war, So he's
pretty much in the doghouse no matter which

1231
01:40:53.840 --> 01:40:57.640
direction he goes with this. Yeah, but again, the Iranians should have

1232
01:40:57.680 --> 01:41:02.199
been dealt with a long time ago, and you know, they never really

1233
01:41:02.239 --> 01:41:05.439
were in my opinion. I mean, I'm not a fan of foreign wars,

1234
01:41:05.680 --> 01:41:09.960
and I'm not a fan of putting
Americans in harms way, especially if

1235
01:41:10.000 --> 01:41:15.000
I'm not willing to be the first
to go Larry. But at the same

1236
01:41:15.119 --> 01:41:17.520
point, and I'm not a big
fan of war in general, but at

1237
01:41:17.560 --> 01:41:25.479
the same point that there has there
has to be at least an even or

1238
01:41:25.880 --> 01:41:31.159
maybe an uneven response when they take
over what is considered to be your sovereign

1239
01:41:31.279 --> 01:41:35.039
territory, as the Iranians did in
the Iatolas did back in nineteen seventy nine.

1240
01:41:36.319 --> 01:41:40.239
You know, all that really happened
was we got the hostages back,

1241
01:41:40.359 --> 01:41:45.279
Reagan sold arms to Iran, and
then and you know, here we are

1242
01:41:45.319 --> 01:41:51.399
more than forty years later with Iran
still basically at war with us, and

1243
01:41:51.479 --> 01:41:56.520
we're not at war with them.
I don't understand why. Yeah, I

1244
01:41:56.640 --> 01:42:00.760
don't know how. What would be
the best strategy for dealing with them?

1245
01:42:00.800 --> 01:42:02.840
If we're up to me and I
were a dictator of the world, I'd

1246
01:42:02.920 --> 01:42:08.119
send in a couple of CIA guys
to just take out a few of the

1247
01:42:08.279 --> 01:42:12.199
inner ruling council and just send the
message, which I think could be sent

1248
01:42:12.319 --> 01:42:15.399
but I'm you know, I'm not
dictator of the world, and I can't

1249
01:42:15.520 --> 01:42:21.760
do that. I am, but
you're right, it's all across the globe.

1250
01:42:21.840 --> 01:42:27.760
The US has lost respect, and
you know, our allies are kind

1251
01:42:27.800 --> 01:42:31.760
of thumbing their nose at us.
The Mexicans will do nothing about the cartels

1252
01:42:31.800 --> 01:42:36.600
and the North because we don't pressure
them to do so. So it's a

1253
01:42:38.399 --> 01:42:41.840
it's a major issue. I do
want to point out though, that in

1254
01:42:42.000 --> 01:42:45.239
many other areas, the left is
I hate to say the left, the

1255
01:42:45.359 --> 01:42:49.760
globalists are on their heels here and
as you say, they're starting to get

1256
01:42:49.880 --> 01:42:54.479
panic. We just have to make
sure that panic doesn't turn into a global

1257
01:42:54.600 --> 01:42:59.079
catastrophe. Keep them, keep them
scrunched down there. Well, you were

1258
01:42:59.159 --> 01:43:01.880
talking about being dictator of the world, which is kind of antithetical to somebody

1259
01:43:01.920 --> 01:43:08.800
who's against globalism. But here's the
thing, Larry Swicker's not running. That's

1260
01:43:08.800 --> 01:43:12.920
why I'm not running, Okay,
Larry Schweickert is our guest. The book

1261
01:43:13.119 --> 01:43:15.520
is a patriot's history of globalism,
its rise and decline. And it was

1262
01:43:15.680 --> 01:43:21.199
wonderful to see you mentioned Argentina is
one of those countries that have you know,

1263
01:43:21.399 --> 01:43:26.000
majorly swung in the other direction away
from globalism with the election of this

1264
01:43:26.159 --> 01:43:30.680
president and his speech at the World
Economic Forum. Yeah, was just it

1265
01:43:30.840 --> 01:43:35.439
was great to see them just with
their their mouths agape and their eyes and

1266
01:43:35.640 --> 01:43:41.520
shaking their heads at what he was
talking about. And what he's talking about

1267
01:43:41.640 --> 01:43:45.520
is the same kind of push that
you push for in the last chapter of

1268
01:43:45.560 --> 01:43:47.880
your book, the hope that you
have. Yeah, and you know what

1269
01:43:48.039 --> 01:43:53.560
else. I didn't mention this in
the book because obviously it hadn't happened yet,

1270
01:43:53.600 --> 01:44:00.399
But note who was not at Doggos
Italy, France, Great Britain,

1271
01:44:00.520 --> 01:44:04.199
Russia. I mean, most of
the big players in the world did not

1272
01:44:04.359 --> 01:44:10.920
send their presidents or prime ministers,
and that says something about the declining influence

1273
01:44:11.319 --> 01:44:14.159
of Doggos. I mean, the
one thing that Davos had going for it

1274
01:44:14.359 --> 01:44:20.079
was it was a hotbed for international
sex workers who just came in by droves.

1275
01:44:20.119 --> 01:44:23.520
And one of the things I point
out in my book is this is

1276
01:44:23.640 --> 01:44:27.920
nothing new either. If you go
back to the Congress of Vienna, I

1277
01:44:28.039 --> 01:44:32.720
have some pretty interesting segments on what
the parties were like there and how the

1278
01:44:33.359 --> 01:44:40.079
sex trade and the entertainment trade just
thrived in Vienna while they were supposedly discussing

1279
01:44:40.159 --> 01:44:44.079
the future of the world there,
and same thing in Versailles. These people

1280
01:44:44.079 --> 01:44:48.000
are partiers, no doubt about it. Well, yeah, and you know

1281
01:44:48.159 --> 01:44:51.840
that I always like to say,
for years, I've said there's really only

1282
01:44:51.920 --> 01:44:55.800
one party in Washington, DC,
and they're having a hell of a time

1283
01:44:55.880 --> 01:45:00.600
with our money. Really. You
know, you talk about separating Demmocrats and

1284
01:45:00.640 --> 01:45:02.920
Republicans and right and left, and
I agree. I don't like the term

1285
01:45:03.039 --> 01:45:06.439
left either, and I don't like
the term right. I like the terms

1286
01:45:08.199 --> 01:45:14.039
globalisms and globalists and patriots and patriots, because that's what it really is.

1287
01:45:15.279 --> 01:45:17.560
I think a lot of people are
using the term populism, which is okay

1288
01:45:17.680 --> 01:45:23.560
with me if you are not a
student of American history, it's better because

1289
01:45:23.640 --> 01:45:29.359
in American history the populace have a
very specific definition. It's quite socialist and

1290
01:45:29.479 --> 01:45:33.119
left left wing. I don't think
populism as it's now understood refers to that

1291
01:45:33.359 --> 01:45:39.720
anymore. No. But the other
thing that I think needs to be brought

1292
01:45:40.199 --> 01:45:44.720
excuse it needs to be brought out, is how in every instance, whether

1293
01:45:44.800 --> 01:45:49.199
it's a Congress of Vienna or the
first I piece talk so the UN how

1294
01:45:49.279 --> 01:45:55.560
they go in with such ostensibly high
ideals, and you read what the people

1295
01:45:55.640 --> 01:45:59.159
were saying back in eighteen hundred that
they thought, all of these, all

1296
01:45:59.199 --> 01:46:01.000
these people in eight teen fourteen,
we're going to go in and make life

1297
01:46:01.119 --> 01:46:05.720
better for all the people in Europe. And then after a couple of months

1298
01:46:06.079 --> 01:46:10.560
they go they're not doing anything.
They're making our live worse. They're moving

1299
01:46:10.680 --> 01:46:15.920
dass populations around, changing borders.
And this is a very common you know,

1300
01:46:15.159 --> 01:46:18.840
no matter which part of history you
go to, is that they come

1301
01:46:18.920 --> 01:46:26.159
on with all these high falutint ideals
that they're going to help everybody, and

1302
01:46:26.239 --> 01:46:30.399
then reality sets in and it's it's
a different story. Well, it's kind

1303
01:46:30.439 --> 01:46:33.039
of like Ronald Reagan said, I'm
from the government and I'm here to help

1304
01:46:33.119 --> 01:46:39.119
you. No, do not help
me. Somebody comes to my door with

1305
01:46:39.279 --> 01:46:43.199
that, they're going to be looking
at my double barrel saying, please get

1306
01:46:43.239 --> 01:46:46.000
off my porch and don't help me. Don't help me. Whatever you do,

1307
01:46:46.239 --> 01:46:50.079
don't help me, for God's sake, you know, speaking go ahead,

1308
01:46:50.439 --> 01:46:54.600
got a second, yeah, second, speaking of help. You know,

1309
01:46:54.800 --> 01:46:59.560
I have a chapter on Bretton Woods
and the World Bank and the IMF,

1310
01:47:00.079 --> 01:47:02.640
and again, what I think everybody
will find so interesting is how this

1311
01:47:02.800 --> 01:47:08.199
becomes a business of its own.
It's called the DEV business, the development

1312
01:47:08.279 --> 01:47:12.600
business, but insiders call it the
dev business. And we're talking about hundreds

1313
01:47:12.680 --> 01:47:18.520
of thousands of these do gooders all
around the world going into small rural villages

1314
01:47:18.560 --> 01:47:21.600
and so forth. You know,
I'm from the government, I'm here to

1315
01:47:21.840 --> 01:47:25.239
help you. I'm from doctors out
borders. I'm here to help you.

1316
01:47:25.640 --> 01:47:29.640
And in the end, all they
do is cause more chaos and more problems.

1317
01:47:30.079 --> 01:47:33.279
And even the UN's own studies say, you know, really, they

1318
01:47:33.319 --> 01:47:38.279
haven't helped anything. They haven't improved
life much at all in any place where

1319
01:47:38.359 --> 01:47:42.640
any of these organizations have gone into
And in the case that we've seen recently

1320
01:47:42.720 --> 01:47:46.840
of UNRAH, which we're now defunding
thank god, you know, was there

1321
01:47:46.880 --> 01:47:51.960
were people working with UNRA, that
UN agency who were there participating in the

1322
01:47:53.039 --> 01:47:58.920
October seventh attacks on Israel. I
mean exactly, jeez, Larry Schwiker.

1323
01:47:59.399 --> 01:48:05.000
The book is a patriots history of
globalism. It's rise and decline. We've

1324
01:48:05.039 --> 01:48:09.680
seen the rise, and I am
just praying for the decline. Larry.

1325
01:48:11.640 --> 01:48:14.359
It's a coming. It's a coming, all right. Well, thank you

1326
01:48:14.479 --> 01:48:16.760
so much for your time and great
success with the books. Sir, okay,

1327
01:48:16.960 --> 01:48:20.760
thank you and hello to everybody there
in Ohio. You got it.

1328
01:48:21.319 --> 01:48:27.359
Larry Schweikert on the night Cap back
in a moment to wrap up. Willy

1329
01:48:27.520 --> 01:48:29.479
is the one person I know I
can count on, my friend. I

1330
01:48:29.600 --> 01:48:31.479
want you to know that I Bill
Cunningham am here for you. He makes

1331
01:48:31.520 --> 01:48:34.680
me feel good to be an American. Let me help ease your concerns,

1332
01:48:34.800 --> 01:48:39.119
keep you informed, and raise your
spirits. I rather have my arm gnawed

1333
01:48:39.159 --> 01:48:42.279
off by beavers than miss Willie's show. I'm here for you. All you

1334
01:48:42.399 --> 01:48:45.159
have to do is listen to me
the great America. I want to be

1335
01:48:45.239 --> 01:48:48.279
a great American, just like Willie. Bill Cunningham. Tomorrow at twelve noon

1336
01:48:48.560 --> 01:48:55.000
on seven hundred w l W and
this week's Marketers Report, we learn about

1337
01:48:55.039 --> 01:48:59.359
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