1 00:00:04,919 --> 00:00:08,679 Hi everyone. This is Christina and this is MJ. And this is a 2 00:00:08,759 --> 00:00:14,080 Spooky Tells, the podcast for all things spooky and true crime. Sorry you 3 00:00:14,119 --> 00:00:17,160 might hear my children in the background. Today, there is no Carmen. 4 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:22,160 She is packing at the last minute for some trip she has and so yeah, 5 00:00:22,199 --> 00:00:24,960 she has no time to record. Oh, this is the first episode 6 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:30,039 where you're doing Iguascalientes, yes, yeah, or not the first episode where 7 00:00:30,079 --> 00:00:33,600 you're doing Mexican States. That's what I meant to say. Yes, you 8 00:00:33,679 --> 00:00:40,359 kind of covered already sacatecas So and Haliscope, but yesterday's I Was Calientes Part 9 00:00:40,359 --> 00:00:44,039 one? Yes, part one because there's a lot of legends apparently, yes, 10 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,880 yes, And I'm going to be covering a true crime case from I 11 00:00:48,079 --> 00:00:51,159 Was Calientes. It's very recent, so there's like not a lot of information 12 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:56,880 on it. So yeah. Before all that, a listener story And if 13 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,640 you want to send a story to us to read on the podcast, you 14 00:00:59,679 --> 00:01:03,280 can at spooky tailzigmail dot com. You can dm us on any of our 15 00:01:03,359 --> 00:01:07,640 socials. You can submit it on Discord. We are getting more and more 16 00:01:07,719 --> 00:01:11,719 through there every day. That's very exciting. Thank you so much. What 17 00:01:11,879 --> 00:01:15,840 else you can call it a spooky hotline. There is still like three messages 18 00:01:15,879 --> 00:01:18,280 on there that I have to play. I just never have my phone when 19 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,920 i'm recording because I give it to my children so they can leave me alone 20 00:01:22,079 --> 00:01:27,159 like a great parent. We all do it. Yeah, you know it's 21 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:34,560 fine and two days story here it goes. Hi, ladies, love the 22 00:01:34,599 --> 00:01:38,040 podcast. You do such a great job. It's like sitting around a bonfire 23 00:01:38,079 --> 00:01:42,200 having drinks with your friends while sharing scary stories. And thank you. That 24 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:47,680 was the vibe. We want it right, yes, okay. So my 25 00:01:47,719 --> 00:01:51,280 story starts with a phone call about fifteen years ago. I was on the 26 00:01:51,319 --> 00:01:53,760 phone with my dad telling him about a new job I just got. We 27 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,599 live in different states. I was in my apartment and he was in the 28 00:01:57,599 --> 00:02:00,280 house he was renting. As we are, all of a sudden, this 29 00:02:00,359 --> 00:02:05,599 deep, slow, raspy voice comes on the line and says my name, 30 00:02:06,319 --> 00:02:10,680 Gabriela. I tried to use that voice. Oh A shudder ran through my 31 00:02:10,719 --> 00:02:15,520 body and I threw the phone on the bed. Even now I get chills. 32 00:02:15,599 --> 00:02:17,800 I thought, what the fuck was that. My heart was racing. 33 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,800 Let me say that my family never calls me by my full name. They 34 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:27,400 always call me Gabby. Only strangers use my full name. As I stared 35 00:02:27,439 --> 00:02:30,840 on the phone, I started to wonder if my dad had a heart attack 36 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,159 and that's why his voice sounded weird. But I knew that was not my 37 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:38,080 dad. I slowly picked up the phone and called out for my dad. 38 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,240 He was still on the line and asked me if I had heard that. 39 00:02:40,759 --> 00:02:45,240 Oh no, he heard it too. Ooh, oh God, this is 40 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:49,120 worse. I told him yes. He then proceeded to tell me how the 41 00:02:49,159 --> 00:02:52,639 house where he was living was haunted. He worked graveyard at the time. 42 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,960 His wife would leave during the day to go to work, so he would 43 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,639 be alone in the house. He told me he would turn off lights in 44 00:03:00,719 --> 00:03:05,000 his bedroom and close the curtains so he would get some sleep. The lights 45 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,560 were turned back on, making it impossible for him to get any rest. 46 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:13,439 Objects would move, and you could hear noises throughout the house. Unfortunately, 47 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,639 he was stuck in a one year lease and could not afford to break it. 48 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:21,439 Even worse, his wife refused to believe him and said that she never 49 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,439 experienced anything weird. Oh, this is like the other way around. All 50 00:03:24,439 --> 00:03:30,240 the horror movies is always the guys like everything's fine. Everything's fine until until 51 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:34,560 they see their child like levitating in the bed and they're like, like, 52 00:03:34,719 --> 00:03:38,240 oh shit, they were just jumping. They would probably find an excuse to 53 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:42,400 that. It's not that serious. Five monkeys in the bed, that's what 54 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:47,400 was happening. However, family friends stayed with my dad and they told me 55 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:53,240 they felt weird energy in the house. They saw faces in the patterns of 56 00:03:53,319 --> 00:03:58,599 the tile in the kitchen. Ooh, I don't like that. No, 57 00:03:58,719 --> 00:04:02,000 that's disgusting. This was without my dad saying anything to them because he didn't 58 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,360 want to scare them. Okay, So like they haven't talked to each other 59 00:04:04,439 --> 00:04:09,719 about this, So that's worse because then, like there's no influencing each other's 60 00:04:09,759 --> 00:04:15,400 stories either. Mm hmmm. Why is there always freaking faces in the tiles? 61 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:20,519 Right? Faces places that they shouldn't be exactly every single time. It 62 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:25,199 wasn't until after they were back home that they called my dad and asked him 63 00:04:25,199 --> 00:04:28,800 if there was anything weird going on in the house. Then they exchanged stories 64 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,120 about their experiences and they encouraged my dad to get out as soon as he 65 00:04:31,199 --> 00:04:34,279 could. As soon as his lease was up. He moved. To this 66 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:38,720 day, he avoids the area to this day, he avoids the area where 67 00:04:38,759 --> 00:04:42,720 the house is located. He is currently very happy in his new home and 68 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,959 has not experienced any other paranormal activities. That's good. Yeah, that's great. 69 00:04:47,519 --> 00:04:51,360 Good for him. Not good for the next tenants though, No, 70 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:55,720 no, not at all. That's my spooky story with a happy ending, 71 00:04:55,879 --> 00:05:00,600 stay a spooky love it. Yes, love the happy end. No more 72 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,079 hauntings. That's always good. That's what we want, right mm hmm. 73 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,240 But like you said, yeah, I feel bad for the next tenants, 74 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:11,560 the next tenants and then the next tenants. Yeah, everyone else, everybody 75 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:15,519 else warn people like, hey, don't rent that house. Oh. I 76 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:20,120 would one hundred percent tell people like, uh, like I've I've lived like 77 00:05:20,199 --> 00:05:24,160 pretty much by myself, like not about myself, but all my own since 78 00:05:24,199 --> 00:05:26,839 I was seventeen, And I would tell like if I didn't like the place, 79 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,519 I'd be like, mmmm, the property owners or like assholes, don't 80 00:05:30,519 --> 00:05:34,680 do it. I like I'm trying to save like people from like bad property 81 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:39,319 owners landlords and and and not just what is it? What is when they're 82 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:44,040 not landlords but they're a property management company? Oh yeah, yeah that's and 83 00:05:44,079 --> 00:05:47,360 that's important works, So save them from that and from hauntings like oh that 84 00:05:47,439 --> 00:05:51,680 landowner sucks and I span so don't go there. Yeah no. And then 85 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:56,480 like the the apartment I currently live in, there's been two deaths in the 86 00:05:56,519 --> 00:06:00,560 past three years. Oh god, yeah, not good. And one of 87 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,759 them was not too long ago. And it's like my neighbor across the not 88 00:06:02,879 --> 00:06:08,319 across the way, but like I guess it's kind of across the way. 89 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:13,240 I guess both of them were across the way. Both deaths. Why so 90 00:06:13,319 --> 00:06:16,839 close to you? I don't know, but like both the deaths that are 91 00:06:17,079 --> 00:06:20,920 like in my apartment are like very close to me. Like they're not neighbors 92 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:27,199 across the way, because my apartment complex is like weird layout, but it's 93 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,319 like they're the back to their apartment is facing my window, if that makes 94 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:34,959 sense. Oh too close either way. I don't like it. I don't 95 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:41,439 like it. How many people moved in and the death that happened like three 96 00:06:41,519 --> 00:06:45,040 years ago. Yes, there's lieutenants and there's like new tenants every year. 97 00:06:45,319 --> 00:06:47,199 Okay, okay, they haven't said anything or you don't talk to them. 98 00:06:47,319 --> 00:06:50,279 I don't know if that one spooky I have not heard. I don't talk 99 00:06:50,319 --> 00:06:53,639 to my neighbors. So I don't know. Yeah, I was gonna say, 100 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:58,040 it doesn't sound like something you would do. So the turn around rate 101 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,720 to I, Yeah, that's not a good sign. So I know, 102 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:08,399 I don't know. I don't know. Okay, Well, should we start 103 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,879 with the aust Glentes legends. Yes, do you want to go first? 104 00:07:12,959 --> 00:07:15,439 Or no? You go first? I said, let's throw Aguascalientes legends. 105 00:07:15,439 --> 00:07:20,079 Oh that's true, that's true. Okay. So this first story is called 106 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:26,000 El Camion de la alto Pista. A bus was traveling down a road in 107 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,040 the middle of the night when out of nowhere, a truck appeared in front 108 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,199 of it, going the opposite direction of traffic. The truck was driving without 109 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:36,120 its flights on, didn't give the bus driver enough time to react and move 110 00:07:36,399 --> 00:07:41,439 out of the way. The two vehicles collided, killing the passengers on the 111 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:46,920 bus. This accident has then led to the legend that if you find yourself 112 00:07:46,959 --> 00:07:51,560 on this highway which they don't specify which highway that's not good, in the 113 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:56,240 middle of the night around one am, you will see the apparitions of people 114 00:07:56,279 --> 00:08:01,879 walking around, disoriented and lost. Locals who live near the area say that 115 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:07,639 they have seen the bus. Sometimes you're even able to board it. Oh 116 00:08:07,839 --> 00:08:11,600 no, why would you want to? I don't know. The bus will 117 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:15,560 never reach the terminal, and if you board the bus, you must go 118 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,120 to the place of the accident, because if you don't, you will never 119 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:22,000 be seen again. Wow. Yeah, it doesn't say I tried looking up. 120 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:26,079 But this is a legend that's really common in a West Galiana. It 121 00:08:26,079 --> 00:08:28,519 doesn't say which highway that's that's not good. What does it say what bus 122 00:08:28,639 --> 00:08:31,559 numbers? No, it doesn't say anything. And then and the thing is 123 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:39,159 like, uh, there's like those crazy ass highways in Mexico that are like 124 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:45,440 freakin' bonkers. Have you seen that one where it changes lane lanes in Mexico? 125 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,759 No? And I'm like, dude, I would I would die like 126 00:08:48,759 --> 00:08:50,360 that. What do you mean, like changes lanes? Like how? Oh 127 00:08:50,399 --> 00:08:52,960 my god? Like, okay, so you start on off on the right 128 00:08:54,039 --> 00:08:56,039 lane, and like, obviously there's on the left lane. I guess left 129 00:08:56,080 --> 00:09:01,559 lane, but it's divided by the yellow line. But then because of the 130 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,879 way it curves, there comes a point in time when you have to switch. 131 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:09,120 Yes, and you have to switch so you don't veer off the mountain. 132 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:13,279 Oh my God that the speech you're going. So not only is it 133 00:09:13,399 --> 00:09:18,360 dangerous going down, that's why you have to switch I guess lanes and go, 134 00:09:18,399 --> 00:09:20,720 you know, so you don't like the momentum of the car doesn't like 135 00:09:20,799 --> 00:09:24,440 fling you off around. But on top of that, like if you have 136 00:09:24,519 --> 00:09:30,639 another car coming your way and you both have to like switch lanes, O 137 00:09:31,919 --> 00:09:35,799 God and I have to find it. But I hope this makes sense like 138 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:37,639 when I'm explaining it, because it's really hard because it's just like you start 139 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,480 on off the right, but then you have to go to the left, 140 00:09:41,519 --> 00:09:43,600 and then the car coming directly, you know, on the other the other 141 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,919 side of traffic starts off on the left and then has to switch over to 142 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,679 the right lane. Like it's just where and where is this? It's in 143 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,759 Mexico and I can't remember where. I feel like what are the listeners would 144 00:09:52,759 --> 00:09:56,960 tell us, like I'm gonna look it up. But there's so many like 145 00:09:56,399 --> 00:10:03,360 highways where it's crazy in Mexico because it is like very like some places are 146 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:07,919 really mountainous, yes, yeah, and with lack of funds and everything, 147 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:13,320 and you have yourself a accident prone, well that's why there's there's so many 148 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:20,039 places called blah blah blah la and all these gurbas. Yeah, because it's 149 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:24,399 like really mountainous terrains. And then they don't have funds to make a safe 150 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,519 highway, Like where are they gonna get some money? The people, you 151 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:31,759 know, oftentimes are very poor, and unfortunately in history, a lot of 152 00:10:31,799 --> 00:10:39,600 the politicians would just steal money misuse the funds. Yeah, I would die 153 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:41,679 if I encountered this highway, which is why I was like, where is 154 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:48,200 it? I am glad I'm epileptic, Like I can't drive. You're a 155 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:52,879 passenger princess for life, and that's good. Yes, I'm a passenger princess 156 00:10:52,919 --> 00:11:01,399 with life. Oh it's funny to make that a sticker with a little purple 157 00:11:01,159 --> 00:11:09,480 ribbon for epilepsy. But yeah, there's a similar legend in Portoaiyarta. And 158 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,919 I believe the bus is like number forty, So this bus has a number, 159 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:18,080 but like supposedly the bus there was a big crash or an accident in 160 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,879 like the nineteen eighties or something like that on this bus, and like everyone 161 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,799 died. But now the bus is seen at night and then if you like 162 00:11:24,879 --> 00:11:28,000 accidentally board the bus and you're on it, it'll be like normal. And 163 00:11:28,039 --> 00:11:33,679 then suddenly like everyone looks dead, like all of a sudden inside the bus. 164 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:39,840 No, and then the driver turns and looks at you, and the 165 00:11:39,919 --> 00:11:41,879 driver's like, you need to get out of the bus. Don't look behind 166 00:11:41,919 --> 00:11:45,720 you. You need to get out and keep going. If you look behind 167 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:50,080 you as you're getting off the bus, you're gonna join us. See. 168 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:54,039 The good thing is, I'm like one of those people that are like, 169 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:58,480 do not like social interactions. And when I go anywhere, you're not gonna 170 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,879 look behind. I'm not gonna look behind. I barely even look forward, 171 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:07,240 okay behind, listen, I look down as I'm walking. Now, I'm 172 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,639 just kidding. I look at my phone. Okay, I'm looking at my 173 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:15,600 phone. I'm not like your phone zombie. The only time that being a 174 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:22,279 phone zombie will save your life. Seriously, this next story, if you, 175 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,519 if you have the notes, pop them up, because this does have 176 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:28,279 a picture, it will make sense. I'm looking at them right now, 177 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,879 at the pictures. Okay. And I don't know why, I don't understand 178 00:12:30,919 --> 00:12:35,919 the context, so okay, okay. So this next story is called Cerro 179 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:43,600 del Morto and Croto is a mountain complex in the Sierra de Laurel in the 180 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:48,919 municipality of Hezu's Maria, and it's located two four hundred and forty meters above 181 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:54,039 sea level. It has a very peculiar shape. It looks like a person 182 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,759 laying down and the mountain peaks make the nose, mouth, feet, and 183 00:12:56,799 --> 00:13:03,720 body. Oh oh. And in the image where it's bright and the mountains 184 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:05,200 are dark, I can see it. Sorry, you can't hear my child? 185 00:13:05,759 --> 00:13:11,480 Yeah, yeah, and okay, So this is this mountain has a 186 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:16,159 legend. According to legend, a long ago, the Chichi mechas the Chalcas 187 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:22,279 and then now what luckaus that was hard word lived together and among them there 188 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:31,000 were these three tall and imposing priests. Each indigenous group had or you know, 189 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:37,600 had a priest that represented them like as a as a cult, as 190 00:13:37,639 --> 00:13:41,360 a tribe. One day, one of these priests went into a hot spring, 191 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:46,240 and when he jumped into the pool, he disappeared. Those who had 192 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:50,679 joined the priests to the pool were in a panic and blamed the Chalcas. 193 00:13:50,799 --> 00:13:54,240 War broke out between the tribes. During the war, the priest appeared during 194 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:58,039 one of the battles trying to stop the war. However, he was hit 195 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:03,240 by an arrow through the heart as he was trying to escape. His blood 196 00:14:03,759 --> 00:14:09,600 painted the earth as he collapsed. His body buried the Chichi mechas and created 197 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,799 the mountain range, and the caves in the mountain are said to be his 198 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:18,559 entrails. What is entrails? Guts? Thank you, thank you, which 199 00:14:18,639 --> 00:14:24,279 would kind of makes sense, like like what an artistic way of thinking that 200 00:14:24,799 --> 00:14:28,080 the caves and stuff. Yeah, and so he is the mountain. He 201 00:14:28,279 --> 00:14:33,320 is the one laying down. Yeah, he became the mountain. I love 202 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:39,240 stories where something became mountains. They're so fun to listen to. There's and 203 00:14:39,279 --> 00:14:48,840 there's so many like you have that with the A and eats the I never 204 00:14:48,919 --> 00:14:54,200 remember the full name of the other mountains. I think I want to say, 205 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:58,519 I like that it's something like that, but it's as much easier to 206 00:14:58,559 --> 00:15:03,759 say and I'm sorry, yes, but I can see, like like in 207 00:15:03,799 --> 00:15:07,480 that in that picture where it's like sunset, that really does look like a 208 00:15:07,559 --> 00:15:11,720 nose. No, that straight up looks like a nose. The rest of 209 00:15:11,759 --> 00:15:13,720 it, I'm like, I guess someone could make all those There's too many 210 00:15:13,799 --> 00:15:18,039 bumps for the rest of the body for me, but the nose is very 211 00:15:18,159 --> 00:15:20,360 like, Yeah, that's a nose. And then on the bottom one you 212 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:26,600 can see like the the like obviously where the where the nose is on the 213 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:30,080 the first picture, but like the feet where it kind of curves down kind 214 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,919 of looks like almost looks like a like a like a what is it called 215 00:15:33,919 --> 00:15:37,840 the amntha? Yes, that is covered and draped over the body except for 216 00:15:37,919 --> 00:15:41,960 the head. That's what it looks like to me. Yes, I don't 217 00:15:41,519 --> 00:15:46,320 that's I love the artistic way that they thought of this, and that the 218 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:50,639 whole cave system was the entrails, was like, oh my god, like 219 00:15:50,679 --> 00:15:52,919 I never would have thought of that, but like, yes, I see 220 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:58,919 it. Yeah, because it's like a system of connecting tubs like our makes 221 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:07,600 sense. Maybe that's the capillaries. But hopefully there's no well you know what 222 00:16:07,639 --> 00:16:12,759 I mean. Yeah, yeah, there's no way to go that way where 223 00:16:14,879 --> 00:16:17,639 I went through the booby hole, I was like, don't say it, 224 00:16:17,759 --> 00:16:26,320 but but then I didn't say anything, So moving on. I can't take 225 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:36,000 shit seriously. Okay, This next story is called El Paso the Aguascallientes and 226 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:41,759 Beso oh okay said, oh no, the Kiss of Aguascalientes And this this 227 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:48,879 story is a story of a legendary kiss that changed Mexico forever. Well, 228 00:16:48,919 --> 00:16:53,360 that does sound legendary. Hm. On May first, eighteen thirty five, 229 00:16:53,679 --> 00:17:00,200 then President Antonio Lopeze Santana and three thousand men traveled to Seconcas to stop a 230 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:07,720 rebellion by Sacateca's governor Francisco Garcia Salinas. That night, he spent it in 231 00:17:07,839 --> 00:17:14,519 Aguascalients at the home of Luisa Fernandez de Garcia Rojas and her husband Pedro Garcia 232 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:18,960 Rojas. At the time, Ajuasclentus was part of Sacatecas. Okay, I 233 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,279 was wondering. I was like, what does the governor of Sacatecas have to 234 00:17:22,279 --> 00:17:25,880 do with this if they're in at wesclientus what I see? Yes, yes, 235 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:30,799 and the locals wanted to separate from the state. The people of Auasclentus 236 00:17:30,839 --> 00:17:36,599 were excited for the visit of Santana, and Luisa and her husband would talk 237 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:41,559 about the struggles and the need for independence. They told Santana about the lack 238 00:17:41,599 --> 00:17:45,200 of schools, jobs, and how the Sacateca's government kept part of the money 239 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:49,279 that belonged to Ajuascalentus. During that dinner, a servant went to don Pedro 240 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:56,160 with a matter that needed to be urgently addressed. Don Pedro left Luisa and 241 00:17:56,279 --> 00:18:00,000 Santana, and Luisa continued to talk about, well, you know, the 242 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:04,400 freedom of Alascallientis and everything that they you know, the locals wanted, stating 243 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:10,160 to the president that people would go to the point of sacrifice to obtain it. 244 00:18:10,839 --> 00:18:14,400 Sometime. I, hearing this, grabbed Louisa's hands and asked, really 245 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,759 until the sacrifice, Lisa replied, reassuring her point. Taken by her beauty 246 00:18:18,839 --> 00:18:23,000 and words, he gave her a long, spontaneous kiss. Oh no, 247 00:18:23,839 --> 00:18:30,200 while her husband was out of the house. Uh uh yeah, and I'm 248 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,680 like day one of meeting. Wow, wow, she was waiting. She 249 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:37,079 would have done that with anyone this Luisa an. Yeah, yeah, she 250 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,920 was what was it called, like that one show Desperate Housewives or whatever. 251 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:45,200 Yes, she was a desperate housewife. They stopped only when they heard the 252 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:51,559 footsteps of zon Pedro. When he entered the room, Louisa excitedly said to 253 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:56,359 him, I was Gallientees is free. On May twenty third, eighteen thirty 254 00:18:56,359 --> 00:19:00,359 five, the Decree for the Freedom of a was Galliente was issued. Don 255 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:06,039 Pedro Garcia Rojas was appointed the first governor of the state. Oh, the 256 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:11,839 kiss has been immortalized in a mural in the governor's palace in Auascalientes and as 257 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:17,599 well as the state's coat of arms. So if I posted pictures in the 258 00:19:17,799 --> 00:19:22,279 in my notes, and if you see it, there's a chain and lips 259 00:19:22,839 --> 00:19:26,599 on the coat of arms. Yeah, and then the bottom is the mural 260 00:19:27,079 --> 00:19:33,319 on the governor's palace. And I was Galientis and you could see Santana and 261 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:37,640 Lisa giving him a kiss. Wow. Okay, well she did it for 262 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:42,200 the state, So yeah, I'm okay with the honestly, go Luisa. 263 00:19:42,759 --> 00:19:47,839 Her husband was too. That's how he became governor. Yeah, so everyone 264 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:52,200 was okay with this. This is good, This is good. It's a 265 00:19:52,559 --> 00:19:57,319 legendary kiss. Yeah. Yeah. So this next story, our legend is 266 00:19:57,319 --> 00:20:04,559 called Diablo, and this story takes place in the seventeenth century in auas garient 267 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:08,880 This. At the time there lived a marquise of Bualla Lupe, and he 268 00:20:10,039 --> 00:20:15,799 was described as a strong man with strong character, wealthy but noble, and 269 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:23,920 kind to his workers, treated them with respect honestly, really really. Because 270 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:29,200 the marquise owned a lot of land, he had other people manage it for 271 00:20:29,319 --> 00:20:33,799 him. One of those people was recent this and resend This was known as 272 00:20:33,839 --> 00:20:37,160 a very agile, hard working man who knew his stuff. He worked hard, 273 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:41,440 but he also played hard. He was a party animal. Okay. 274 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:48,279 He was a womanizer and heavy drinker not okay, but also on brand entertainers 275 00:20:48,319 --> 00:20:51,759 and women fought over him because he was a good tipper. Okay, that's 276 00:20:51,799 --> 00:20:56,000 good. Yeah, yeah, that's good. At least he's not stingy. 277 00:20:56,240 --> 00:21:00,960 He had money. The people didn't understand where his money came from, and 278 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:04,039 rumors began that he had sold his soul to the devil. Of course, 279 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:11,599 always the pact, according to legend, was coming to an end on December 280 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,000 twenty fourth, eighteen seventy, when the devil would come back and collect his 281 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:21,920 soul. When the devil came to collect dressing this his soul, he asked 282 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,480 for an extension, as he had to build a fence for the marquise. 283 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:30,960 The devil agreed, then made a bet. Was this okay? I love 284 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,279 when the devil makes a bet, and he loves making bets. He's like, 285 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:37,200 well, i'll bet you this, and then he loses. He's like 286 00:21:37,279 --> 00:21:41,200 tricked. Yeah, all the time, every single time, and every and 287 00:21:41,559 --> 00:21:45,680 every story. Yes, you think you'd know by now, Yeah, he 288 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,599 said, what is it called the what is it called something? For punishment? 289 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:56,200 Oh? Yeah, for punishment. He's like George Bush and he's like 290 00:21:56,240 --> 00:22:00,799 for me once, shame on, you pull me twice, me pull me 291 00:22:00,839 --> 00:22:06,400 three times? Like it? And I don't know? Okay. So the 292 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:10,720 devil agreed then made a bet with such ascend this that the devil would build 293 00:22:10,799 --> 00:22:17,079 the fence, not a but in the devil to work way, it gets 294 00:22:17,079 --> 00:22:22,319 better. However, this had to make a rooster crow before he finished. 295 00:22:22,559 --> 00:22:26,680 So he had to make the rooster crow before he finished building the fence. 296 00:22:26,039 --> 00:22:30,319 And if he achieved this, sid this could keep the fence and his soul 297 00:22:30,319 --> 00:22:34,519 would also be free. What kind of deal is this? I have no 298 00:22:34,599 --> 00:22:41,599 idea. Make better deals please, mm hmmm. It was bored. Apparently, 299 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:47,759 However, the devil began to move at lightning speed, and this was 300 00:22:47,799 --> 00:22:51,160 then in a rush to find a crow, and just a crow, a 301 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,799 rooster to make crow, to make a crow, And just before the last 302 00:22:53,799 --> 00:22:59,440 stone was placed on the fence, this managed to find a rooster, so 303 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:03,039 he plucked one of its feathers and made a crow. The devil lost the 304 00:23:03,079 --> 00:23:07,519 bet. Just send this got his tradom and the fence never had its last 305 00:23:07,559 --> 00:23:12,640 stove placed. It said that the fence is somewhere in Auascarantas and it's still 306 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:18,759 missing that one stone. Wow, okay, he barely won that bed though, 307 00:23:18,839 --> 00:23:22,000 Like, wow, you know you could have make a bet like that 308 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:26,279 today because you would not find a rooster unless you're in specific places. But 309 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:30,000 like where I'm at, no one has roosters. Like I used to have 310 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,000 roosters then I moved to apartments. Yeah, I was gonna say, I 311 00:23:34,039 --> 00:23:37,920 remember, like I hear them, but I'm like, where are they? 312 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,519 I don't know, so, but I would lose that bit I couldn't find 313 00:23:41,559 --> 00:23:44,720 one. Oh no, like back then, like you, everybody had a 314 00:23:44,799 --> 00:23:48,599 rooster. They had to. Yeah, it reminds me of It reminds me 315 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,240 of the episode of This Fool when he, uh, the guy has the 316 00:23:52,319 --> 00:23:56,759 rooster and like the whole block is like super angry about the rooster. In 317 00:23:56,799 --> 00:24:02,680 season two. Oh yeah, they do wake you up at the butt crack 318 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,519 of dog. It is. It is annoy. But I had that when 319 00:24:06,519 --> 00:24:07,519 I was in high school and I was like, oh, all right, 320 00:24:07,559 --> 00:24:11,799 bet I could use this alarm clock. You would have won that bed then 321 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:19,119 yeah, okay, well, I guess we will take a short outbreak here 322 00:24:19,279 --> 00:24:25,880 and then come back for my part, the depressing part. Welcome to you 323 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,200 our hunted break. 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Yes, I 342 00:25:52,519 --> 00:25:57,079 saw it on Twitter. Twitter. It was like a whole spread of LGBTQ 343 00:25:57,839 --> 00:26:04,039 plus community members who have been attacked. And I think it was in like 344 00:26:04,039 --> 00:26:08,519 like a span of a year or less. Wow. Okay, but it 345 00:26:08,599 --> 00:26:15,559 was a lot. And I only remember two of them's this person and another 346 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:21,359 one. I feel like there was a whole list there probably was, Yeah, 347 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,240 and I guess I should say, but today we are talking about Jesus 348 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:30,720 ol Baena Souseo. But before I get into the well into it because of 349 00:26:30,759 --> 00:26:33,240 what happened to them, I'm just going to share this little thing here. 350 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:41,440 Okay. So the Trance Lifeline designed for trance or gender nonconforming people is eight 351 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,440 seven seven five six five eight eight six zero. This lifeline provides resources to 352 00:26:45,519 --> 00:26:52,240 help not only with suicide but also domestic violence situations. And then also there 353 00:26:52,319 --> 00:26:56,759 is the Trevor Project lifeline. Okay, so here's the number if you want 354 00:26:56,759 --> 00:27:02,079 to call. This one is one eight four eight eight eight seven three a 355 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:03,839 six. But then, like MJ just said, you can also text it, 356 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,839 so you can text, all right, how do I click on the 357 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:12,720 text? It says text the same number. No, it says text start 358 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:18,839 s T A R T all capital to six seven eight six seven eight. 359 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:22,440 Okay, thank you, because I did not have that one down. And 360 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:26,720 then you could also go to the Trevor Project dot org. And you don't 361 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,119 have the text or call, you could chat with someone through the website, 362 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:37,720 just in case for those who are in a very controlling situation where they're partner 363 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:41,720 or family member, because it's not always partners. It could be abusive parents, 364 00:27:41,759 --> 00:27:47,680 grandparents, et cetera. Or they monitor your your texts and calls. 365 00:27:47,759 --> 00:27:51,359 You could go straight to those and like online activity yeah, uh huh, 366 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:56,000 and like to like yeah, like if you have like a Google Chrome or 367 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,480 or you know, other like web browsers, sometimes you can go incognito, 368 00:28:02,079 --> 00:28:06,720 yes, yeah. And then on this website specifically, you press escape and 369 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,240 it'll close the whole thing. Yes, so all good things to know, 370 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:18,079 okay. So hesus O Salsetto was a Mexican activist for LGBTQ plus rights in 371 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:23,079 Mexico, and they made history in twenty twenty two when they became the first 372 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:29,039 non binary magistrate in Latin American history. All of Latin America. Oh my 373 00:28:29,039 --> 00:28:32,440 god, my child, all of Latin America. Okay, But like their 374 00:28:32,599 --> 00:28:37,319 their outfits always slayed, yes, and I do mention that later, but 375 00:28:37,559 --> 00:28:41,359 oh my god, I was like screen shouting it, and I was like, 376 00:28:41,759 --> 00:28:45,480 yeah, they were always in the best outfits, a skur, the 377 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:51,359 cutest shoes ever, beautiful, like and they're not cod but like, oh 378 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,960 the makeup spot on, I can't do that. I wish I could. 379 00:28:55,359 --> 00:28:57,720 Everything amazing about them. I gave up on makeup long time ago. But 380 00:28:59,039 --> 00:29:02,640 were I still do it? Okay because I know, But like I started 381 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:07,880 getting like a weird skin reactions, I know, and I was like hmm, 382 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:11,200 and then I let my skin breathe and then I was like I did 383 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,720 an Alicia Keys. Oh okay, yeah, that's how I am most of 384 00:29:15,759 --> 00:29:18,880 the time. But once when we record, I do put on like what's 385 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:25,319 it called concealer and blush and my eyebrows. And then I wish I had 386 00:29:25,359 --> 00:29:30,000 time to put eyelashes on because I mscare is never good enough, but I 387 00:29:30,079 --> 00:29:32,759 it takes too long for me. I don't know how to put them on 388 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,839 properly, and I can't get them done because I rubbed my eyes too much. 389 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,279 Oh yeah, and then like, I'm scared of getting my eyelashes done 390 00:29:38,279 --> 00:29:44,240 because I've seen pictures and I'm like, hmmm, fear activated. Yeah no 391 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,480 this some of them are like if you don't take care of them, they 392 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:52,440 do get really crusty. Yes, yes, and infected. M h. 393 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:57,319 I'm like, no, I'm not gambling with my eyeballs. That's too important. 394 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,799 Yeah. I was like, I I have severe stigmatism. Sorry my 395 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:07,440 child again anyway, moving on, I don't know what's that saying. Yeah, 396 00:30:07,759 --> 00:30:11,119 they were always slain with they're clothing. Oh and for those that don't 397 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:17,240 know, magistrate is a superior judge. It's the highest ranking state judge in 398 00:30:17,279 --> 00:30:22,759 Mexico. They are right below the Supreme Court justice. So a big deal, 399 00:30:22,079 --> 00:30:26,759 very big deal. And they were the first nine non binary magistrate in 400 00:30:26,799 --> 00:30:33,559 all of Latin America. So Jzusola Sado was born in Saltio, Grwila, 401 00:30:33,839 --> 00:30:38,079 where they earned a bachelor's and master's degree in law from the University of Gruila. 402 00:30:38,559 --> 00:30:44,920 Then they worked as a lecturer of electoral Law, legislative process and public 403 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:49,680 management at the University for Professional Development. They moved to aguascalient This in twenty 404 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:57,920 twelve, where they completed a doctorate in electoral law at the University of Durango. 405 00:30:59,119 --> 00:31:04,119 So super educated, just amazing. They went on to work as an 406 00:31:04,119 --> 00:31:10,200 electoral secretary at the National Electoral Institute and then as a professor of electoral law 407 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:15,960 at the University of Aguascalientes and qual Demo University. During their life and work, 408 00:31:15,039 --> 00:31:19,839 they advocated for the LGBTQ plus community. They promoted the use of gender 409 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:29,559 inclusive language and urged Mexican authorities to issue voting and identifying documents like IDs that 410 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,799 reflected the gender identity of the holder. So like to allow like if a 411 00:31:33,839 --> 00:31:38,200 person is non binary, let that say that on the ID. That's that's 412 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,759 what they were promoting. That is awesome. I have a question, though, 413 00:31:41,839 --> 00:31:48,079 I do have a question. What are the non binary terms in Mexico 414 00:31:48,279 --> 00:31:51,759 or in Latin America. So I don't know how to say them. I 415 00:31:51,759 --> 00:31:55,720 guess the term that the equal term to say them, like, yeah, 416 00:31:55,759 --> 00:32:00,000 so instead of saying aya or aos as ayah, put an e in there, 417 00:32:00,319 --> 00:32:07,079 amigas amige. I had no idea. Some people will say prettimes like 418 00:32:07,119 --> 00:32:12,359 my mes Oh I love that, yeah so, or you know, prettymius. 419 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,240 But I like pimes for like, you know, little cousins. If 420 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:19,200 you're not you know, saying a specific gender. Yeah, just the e 421 00:32:19,559 --> 00:32:22,559 really and uh, I mean this has been in use for so long, 422 00:32:23,119 --> 00:32:28,359 so before anyone comes yelling at us, know, there's gonna be someone. 423 00:32:28,799 --> 00:32:34,279 There's always someone and that's why the term latina makes so much sense. But 424 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:39,079 yeah, I mean if you were in the LGBTQ plus spaces in Mexico or 425 00:32:39,119 --> 00:32:44,480 other places. Uh, the e has been used to replace those like to 426 00:32:44,519 --> 00:32:47,519 make a gender neutral for ages now for such a long time. So yeah, 427 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:52,240 that's what it is. I've been using the n like just instead of 428 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:59,799 latina latina Latin. Oh. I don't like that because it makes me just 429 00:32:59,799 --> 00:33:04,640 make me think of like Latin. You think of like Italians for some reason. 430 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,119 But I'm like, yeah, or you know, like the Latin language 431 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,680 that is not. I don't. I don't know. I don't like it. 432 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,400 I've never liked it for that reason because it just it doesn't. It's 433 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,559 the language. Yeah, because of like I don't know pig Latin and all 434 00:33:17,559 --> 00:33:21,480 these you know, Latin, it's already something. It's already a word. 435 00:33:22,799 --> 00:33:24,480 So like I and I never cared. Obviously, I'm not gonna like say, 436 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,119 oh, you can't see this word, like, I'm never gonna be 437 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,119 one of those people. But to me, like Latin X made sense, 438 00:33:30,119 --> 00:33:32,039 and so the Latina. But Latin is one that I just never like. 439 00:33:32,079 --> 00:33:35,720 I'm like, I'm not going to use that one. I use it because 440 00:33:35,759 --> 00:33:39,880 it's like it's Latin America is like the term. That's true. But if 441 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:44,119 if I was saying if there was a group of Latinos and someone said, 442 00:33:44,119 --> 00:33:47,240 oh, there's Latins over there, I'm like, oh, it just doesn't. 443 00:33:47,519 --> 00:33:51,640 I don't. It's weird. But I'm also, you know, I'm 444 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,039 part of the community, so I feel like I could say it. Of 445 00:33:53,079 --> 00:33:57,640 course, you can say what you want, but not you palm colored people 446 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,039 color or paper white paper colored. Oh no, that's like the same white 447 00:34:02,119 --> 00:34:09,039 never mind, forget any of that. Any white colored paper like what oh 448 00:34:09,079 --> 00:34:15,599 my god season and I'm just kidding. And again just to say like there's 449 00:34:15,639 --> 00:34:20,920 always all these people online like oh, latinnix was invented by a white person 450 00:34:21,559 --> 00:34:24,280 and so and so, but like you know, you can't like tie down 451 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:28,800 the word to a specific place in history. Some people say it's Puerto Rico. 452 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,400 And also I also feel like that's a little bit I heard it was 453 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:37,239 a little bit racist, because that's to assume that our people aren't educated and 454 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,719 weren't in these these places to make words, which is true, which you 455 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:44,679 know, there was like this whole issue with LATINX and I and I can 456 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:49,440 see both sides, but it's also like a little bit, I guess, 457 00:34:49,519 --> 00:34:52,360 in a way like races, to assume that our people aren't educated enough to 458 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:57,599 be in these spaces where these words do come up. No, it's to 459 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,480 assume that there's no queer people in Latin America, and there has always been, 460 00:35:01,519 --> 00:35:07,400 and they've always had language to express themselves in a non gendered way. 461 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:12,039 And so if you look at old protests from the seventies, you can find 462 00:35:12,079 --> 00:35:17,239 the word X replacing mucherees in the e. You can rEFInd. Yeah, 463 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:23,280 so it's it's always been a thing. Did anyone actually say Latin X Like, 464 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:28,440 no, that's not how it was pronounced. So but to say, 465 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,599 oh, it's a white people word, it's it's not. And people have 466 00:35:30,679 --> 00:35:38,800 always changed language to include themselves fit the yes exactly, and so you these 467 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:43,639 words have always been like you know, it's like we've been saying they weren't 468 00:35:43,639 --> 00:35:46,760 made up here, and so I just people get more mad about that word 469 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:51,119 instead of like the actual issues affecting Latin America. And it's like, are 470 00:35:51,199 --> 00:35:53,599 you gonna get mad about this word when you don't even care and this is 471 00:35:53,639 --> 00:35:59,559 the only thing you care about. So yeah, anyway, but yeah, 472 00:35:59,599 --> 00:36:00,679 no, I'm glad you ask because yeah, probably a lot of people that 473 00:36:00,679 --> 00:36:06,199 don't know how to say they them in Spanish. Yeah I didn't. I 474 00:36:06,199 --> 00:36:08,920 I've only seen like like this was like years ago, which is it's crazy, 475 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:13,920 like I said, I put the B in LGBTQ, but I don't. 476 00:36:14,039 --> 00:36:20,280 I'm not in I'm in like LGBTQ spaces in the States. But everybody 477 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,719 here kind of speaks English, right, so it's like, you know, 478 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:31,159 the English terms. It's harder outside of English speaking communities because I'm not I 479 00:36:31,159 --> 00:36:37,199 can speak Spanish but I'm not like, let's have a scientific debate, speak 480 00:36:37,199 --> 00:36:43,199 Spanish and be like, oh no women wettal. I don't know. It 481 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,960 was like what is it called? Like a like the thing when you go 482 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:50,679 to Mexico and and your cousin goes on a on a like grant or something, 483 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,280 and it's like something in forensic. I'm like, what is what does 484 00:36:52,320 --> 00:37:00,719 that mean? What means? Yeah? So yeah, No, it's good 485 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,840 that you asked. I don't know where I came across the word. And 486 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:07,239 that's how I've heard. And some people might have their own way. I've 487 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:12,920 seen the X in Muhares and like the X place. Yeah, but I've 488 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,239 I don't think i've seen the EM. Yeah, I've more heard it than 489 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,800 seeing it. But some people, I mean, and some people might have 490 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,519 their own way of doing it. So, and that's the beauty about it. 491 00:37:22,559 --> 00:37:25,280 You can change it to fit your needs, like you said, so, 492 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:30,800 yeah, and it's important, it's important to include others. So when 493 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:36,000 Hazusociel became the first non binary magistrate in Latin America, they told CNN and 494 00:37:36,159 --> 00:37:39,480 Espanol the following, I want to send the message that LGBTQ population, that 495 00:37:39,559 --> 00:37:45,400 the LGBTQ population can access these spaces that there is a possibility that we have 496 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:50,719 people with enough of a profile that with their own merits can access these spaces 497 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,360 where decisions are made. So like saying like, hey, we can do 498 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:58,039 it too, there's room for us here. And they they made that room. 499 00:37:58,159 --> 00:38:02,320 They did, and they did finished making history there. On May seventeen, 500 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:07,079 twenty twenty three, they also made history by becoming the first Mexican citizen 501 00:38:07,159 --> 00:38:13,480 to receive a gender neutral passport. Oh nice right, Only sixteen countries offer 502 00:38:13,519 --> 00:38:17,360 this. So when they were sworn in as a magistrate, there was a 503 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:22,840 rainbow flag next to them, and I'll post pictures of this. And so 504 00:38:22,079 --> 00:38:27,280 they they did all of this work in a very fashionable manner, always in 505 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:31,039 a skirt, heels and a cute top, always smiling, always friendly. 506 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:36,199 But unfortunately, because of who they were and what they represented, they received 507 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:42,639 many hate messages and Hessu Soosiet he was determined to continue their work, but 508 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:47,159 unfortunately that did they got cut too short. So on November thirteenth, twenty 509 00:38:47,199 --> 00:38:52,840 twenty three, Hessuzosiel and their partner Dorian Danielle Nieves Erera, were both found 510 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:58,480 dead in their home their housekeeper found them, and so the following is from 511 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:05,159 the Aguas Calientes prosecutor and they stated that both Issus o'cil and Dorian Danielle had 512 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,239 razor blade wounds. There was no third party that entered the home after the 513 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:15,559 pair was seen arriving from Guahaca. Toxicology analysis revealed the presence of methamphetamines in 514 00:39:15,679 --> 00:39:22,400 Dorian Danielle. It is suspected this is the story that the state prosecution has 515 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:28,960 put out, so it is suspected that Dorian Danielle killed Hezus o'cel before taking 516 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:34,000 his own life. They reported that Hazus o'ciel had over twenty stab wounds and 517 00:39:34,119 --> 00:39:39,639 Dorian Danielle had razor blade injuries on his wrists. Preliminary findings indicate that there 518 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:45,800 were no traces of blood found outside of the crime scene and there was no 519 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:50,199 damage found in the access waste to the home, meaning no one broke in, 520 00:39:50,639 --> 00:39:53,880 and they're ruling out the presence of a third person involved in their deaths. 521 00:39:54,559 --> 00:39:59,960 They stated one of the lifeless bodies was found holding a cutting in ste 522 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,920 and the last thing I could find about this is that authorities said they would 523 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:12,280 coordinate with or national authorities said they would coordinate with state authorities so that you 524 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:16,199 know, the national government would cooperate with Aguascarina specifically to investigate the deaths. 525 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:22,480 And then the Interior ministry officials said that they were not they were not throughout 526 00:40:22,519 --> 00:40:29,360 any line of investigation. But friends, family, and members of the LGBTQ 527 00:40:29,519 --> 00:40:34,840 community in Aguascalientes maintain that they do not believe the narrative of the state. 528 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:39,480 They say there were no issues between Dorian Danielle and huss Ociel that would have 529 00:40:39,559 --> 00:40:44,920 led to this sort of violence. There was no known domestic violence. No 530 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:49,280 one believes that Dorian Danielle would do this, that he would you know, 531 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:54,039 kill his usociel and then himself. They point out to the family, friends, 532 00:40:54,039 --> 00:41:00,840 family, and you know LGBTQ members. I'll point out that all points, 533 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:05,039 sorry, all point to the several death threats that sol had been receiving, 534 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:13,000 which increased a lot in the months before they were killed. And another 535 00:41:13,039 --> 00:41:17,440 weird thing that family, friends, and LGBTQ community have pointed out is that 536 00:41:19,119 --> 00:41:27,199 a friend ofl and Dorian daniel and an LGBTQ activist, Lisa Nava, had 537 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:32,239 been murdered just a few months before in Aguascalientes. Wow, so they feel 538 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:37,320 like someone is targeting them. And this kind of points to the thread you 539 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,880 mentioned as well that you've you've came across that had you know, a list 540 00:41:40,079 --> 00:41:45,400 of of lgbtt Yeah, there was, Yes, there was a list of 541 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,719 and I have to I can't. I don't think I can find it, 542 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:55,639 but I think I'm gonna look into lists of LGBTQ members that have been murdered 543 00:41:55,719 --> 00:42:00,320 within the past. I think here in Mexico. I don't know if it 544 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:05,159 was Mexico or Latin America as a whole. I don't remember this read, 545 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,360 but I do know there were. But this was one of the most deadliest 546 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:14,599 years for politicians and anybody running for office in Mexico. There was a true 547 00:42:14,639 --> 00:42:19,559 lot of of dead people, a lot of murders. It was. It 548 00:42:19,599 --> 00:42:22,800 was very bloody, it was. It was a horrible year for any many 549 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:27,920 members running for office. And I think it has something to do with that, 550 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,440 because this year it really I think it was the worst year or one 551 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:35,639 of the worst years. Yeah, I read that too, And they also 552 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:39,920 pointed to the fact that Mexican police have a record of dismissing homophobic crimes as 553 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:45,360 crimes of passion. Oh yes, so they're like can they be trusted? 554 00:42:45,639 --> 00:42:50,280 And of course, like news reports and like people of authority are like saying 555 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:55,840 like you shouldn't or they're blabing the family for causing like unrest because they don't 556 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,599 believe what the state is saying. But it's like, how can they with 557 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:04,079 the his that has happened? You know, yes, even if they're telling 558 00:43:04,159 --> 00:43:08,760 the truth, even if like something did happen between the two, their past 559 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:17,360 behavior has muddy to everything exactly. And Victor Espindola, the executive director of 560 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:24,280 nonprofit Movement for Equality in Mexico, told Courthouse News that the couple sounded happy. 561 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:29,599 So Dorian Daniel and his associated they sounded happy and a bat when he 562 00:43:29,639 --> 00:43:32,360 spoke to them the Sunday before they were found They were found dead, and 563 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,920 they were found dead on a Monday morning. So he talked to them the 564 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,280 day before, and he claims they sounded happy and a bee and normal. 565 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:44,239 And he also said the following there is no evidence to support the Attorney general's 566 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,079 version because there are no cameras in the house and there were no witnesses, 567 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:51,760 but he there's to declare that there was an argument in the bedroom. It 568 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,440 would appear that they would like to close the case as quickly as possible, 569 00:43:54,719 --> 00:44:00,760 So we and several other organizations are calling on the federal Attorney General's to take 570 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:06,159 the case because what the Auascalientes Attorney General is declaring is not trustworthy. It 571 00:44:06,199 --> 00:44:10,599 also sounds like a police officer was involved. I just saying yeah, and 572 00:44:10,679 --> 00:44:15,159 like we I mean, there's no way of knowing, but to of course, 573 00:44:15,199 --> 00:44:17,599 the community and the family are going to have questions when there has been 574 00:44:17,599 --> 00:44:22,119 no history of violence between the couple and when things just I don't know, 575 00:44:22,199 --> 00:44:28,559 don't add up, right, yeah, Fellow magistrate La Yama said the following 576 00:44:28,599 --> 00:44:32,880 at a tribute, Hissu Byna's purpose was to promote the people of the LGBTQ 577 00:44:34,039 --> 00:44:39,039 plus community who supported them throughout their struggle, achieving a powerful message of inclusion 578 00:44:39,079 --> 00:44:44,880 and equality in our state and our country. We will never forget by Ana's 579 00:44:45,039 --> 00:44:50,519 essence, persistence and desire to achieve a better world. And Juan Byenna, 580 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,880 Hissusociel's father, said the following, it would be a shame to let this 581 00:44:54,119 --> 00:44:59,000 justice system make a judgment that is not correct and that the majority do not 582 00:44:59,039 --> 00:45:02,679 believe, and yeah. I mean when there's questions, there needs to be 583 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:07,960 an open, like concrete evidence that that's and they have to be very what 584 00:45:08,079 --> 00:45:12,960 is it called very open about the investigation. I feel like they have to 585 00:45:13,199 --> 00:45:17,280 release everything, every single thing, because then just it's sketchy. That's what 586 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,960 I was going to say as well, that yeah, it needs to be 587 00:45:21,039 --> 00:45:24,480 open so that the questions that the community is having can be answered. Otherwise 588 00:45:25,079 --> 00:45:34,960 it looks fishy, suspicious. Yes, thousands protested after they were found dead 589 00:45:35,199 --> 00:45:40,559 and attended vigils and demonstrations and their honor, and they inspired many people throughout 590 00:45:40,599 --> 00:45:45,679 their life. They were outspoken about their general identity, gender identity, and 591 00:45:45,039 --> 00:45:51,480 they were the reason for the official recognition of the word maestre, which was 592 00:45:51,599 --> 00:45:57,679 a gender neutral noun for magistrate in Spanish. Oh I love that right, 593 00:45:58,079 --> 00:46:00,920 Oh that makes I was like, why why wouldn't a street and you need 594 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:05,599 to change? But yeah, because oh my god, what is the word 595 00:46:05,599 --> 00:46:13,719 in Spanish machistrado machestrado? Wait? Is it an irony? The maestra look 596 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,960 at us being us? I don't know. This is why we don't know. 597 00:46:16,159 --> 00:46:20,320 This is why I was like, why would they need a gender neutral 598 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,119 term? Because I was like, it's Magis Street. Don't listen to, 599 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:27,679 don't listen to both of us. I don't know. Ignore everything we just 600 00:46:27,679 --> 00:46:34,679 said. Moving on from that, they wrote the following in June on Twitter. 601 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,679 Also side note, I will always respect pronouns, but I will never 602 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:43,239 respect Twitter changing their name to X. I'm not calling it X. I'm 603 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,480 never calling it X. No, it's just not happening. It's it's Twitter. 604 00:46:46,679 --> 00:46:51,960 Yes, So they wrote the following in June on Twitter. I am 605 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,840 a non binary person. I'm not interested in being seen as either woman or 606 00:46:55,000 --> 00:47:00,320 man. This is an identity. It is mine for me and nobody else. 607 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:05,599 Accept it and bam, yes, accept it, and honestly, we 608 00:47:05,639 --> 00:47:08,599 can only hope that justice is found. I do want to play this clip 609 00:47:08,639 --> 00:47:14,320 though, because and I'll send it to you on Facebook, because this clip 610 00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:36,440 went viral after everything. Mad matha sound great, math, You're less start 611 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,760 breaking? Yeah, I just I get chills every time I watch that, 612 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,760 and also feel like crying because you can hear the pain in her voice. 613 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,800 But I'm just a translate really quick for people that don't speak Spanish. She 614 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:50,320 uh, and I don't know if she's like a cousin or an aunt. 615 00:47:50,519 --> 00:47:53,840 I can't tell because the video doesn't say, but she is a family member, 616 00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:58,800 and so she's saying that when you kill a trans person, when you 617 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,559 kill a gay per, you're not that's not who you're killing. You're killing 618 00:48:01,599 --> 00:48:07,920 a brother and uncle, a nephew, like you're you're killing someone's family member. 619 00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:14,599 And yeah, I mean they were just they were such an important person 620 00:48:14,679 --> 00:48:17,840 doing such important work. They seem like a lovely person. And at the 621 00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:22,119 end, the family is the people that are you know, left torn, 622 00:48:22,599 --> 00:48:29,840 suffering, and we can only hope for justice, yes, and I really 623 00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:37,079 do hope that the investigation starts becoming very open and very transparent because it's it's 624 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:44,800 needed to also for the LGBTQ community in a Wesklents and Mexico in Mexico need 625 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:50,880 that reassurance that you know, like they will also get justice for you know, 626 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:52,679 crimes against them. And like I always said this, like this ship 627 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:58,760 pisses me off that especially in the Latin American community, not in a Latin 628 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,960 American but like Latin America in general, like the whole community in general, 629 00:49:02,519 --> 00:49:08,760 that pisses me off is that there's they villainize the LGBTQ plus community. But 630 00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:15,360 they will keep the secrets and they will protect ten toads down for the family 631 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:20,840 pedophile. And it pisses me off. Oh yeah yeah, they'll be like, 632 00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:27,719 oh so and so it's coming overevestido, like, don't wear a dress, 633 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,599 put yeah, put some pants on. I'm like, first of all, 634 00:49:30,599 --> 00:49:34,840 why are you even allowing a person where in which your children need to 635 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:39,599 cover up and change from shorts two pants around your children. That is disgusting. 636 00:49:40,119 --> 00:49:45,440 That is disgusting. I I as someone who was abused as a child 637 00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:49,719 by an adult. It was a straight man. It was a straight man 638 00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:54,000 somehow, never a drag queen somehow, never a transperson somehow. Always a 639 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:59,559 straight person. Yes, a straight man. The person who abused me was 640 00:49:59,599 --> 00:50:06,159 a straight man. Yes. And that's not to say obviously people like that 641 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,800 abusers are in every community. But like the numbers, don't lie, look 642 00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:13,800 at them, look at who really makes the majority, and don't pretend to 643 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,719 be doing this to say the children. Don't go protest a drag queen story 644 00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:20,719 hour, which are amazing, by the way, because you're trying to save 645 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:22,840 the children. Instead, watch out for those that are close to your child. 646 00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:27,480 That's what you need to be the creepy uncle. Yeah, the creepy 647 00:50:27,599 --> 00:50:30,679 uncle, the creepy coach, the creepy paricte. Yeah. For me, 648 00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:36,599 I've always been it's always been men who who. Even when I was a 649 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,639 child, I was being cat called by men. Oh yeah, yeah, 650 00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:43,679 same. Like. There was this thing that I came across that said, 651 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,239 what was it like when I was a child, they used to get called 652 00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:52,400 by men? And I thought it was because I looked like older. But 653 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:57,440 then as you get older, the cat calling slows down. Oh I saw 654 00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:01,440 that, Yes, and slows down until you realize it was because he looked 655 00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:07,000 older. And that's horrifying, and that is disgusting. I mean, yeah, 656 00:51:07,079 --> 00:51:12,360 I remember being twelve eleven and I'm like being cat calls. It's it's 657 00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,639 so dehumanizing, it's so and now that you're like an adult and look like 658 00:51:15,679 --> 00:51:20,880 an adult, the cat calls have either a slow down or stop for some 659 00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,320 people. And then you come to a realization, Oh, they knew, 660 00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:27,519 they knew they I don't look like an adult. It was because I looked 661 00:51:27,519 --> 00:51:31,480 like a child. Huh. It's disgusting. Before we go on more of 662 00:51:31,519 --> 00:51:37,679 a rant on this, because we can and we would, Oh there's there's 663 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:39,719 one hour, two hours not enough. Yeah, we can keep going, 664 00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:45,400 but let's not. Let's let's do speaking recommendations. If you have any do 665 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:49,800 you have any? I? What was I? I was watching? What 666 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:54,280 does that show? Unsolved Mysteries? Was William Shatner? Yes? I was 667 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,679 having the time of my life. I was having the time of my life 668 00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,159 because I've been proched. I a purcheyed so much, guys, I croucheded 669 00:52:00,199 --> 00:52:04,719 like three bags. I still have more shirt. This this reminds me. 670 00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,760 Did you get the thing I tagged you in on Facebook? I was like, 671 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:09,880 I'll pay you to crochet this, right, I don't know. Let 672 00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,920 me see, let me see. Did I tag someone else? Oh my 673 00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:17,480 god, I meant I don't. I don't see it. Hold on, 674 00:52:17,639 --> 00:52:21,400 damn. Okay, it was when a week ago? No, it was 675 00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,159 this morning. No, I didn't. I don't. I haven't gotten anything. 676 00:52:23,159 --> 00:52:29,679 It says weird. Okay. It was a picture of someone that crocheted 677 00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,519 a safety a vest, like a bright safety. Oh, I've seen that 678 00:52:32,559 --> 00:52:37,079 one. You know what's funny? I uh, when was it like two 679 00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:40,360 three days ago? I came across that yarn. I was like, oh, 680 00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:45,039 that is a very bright yarn. Yeah, and I was like, 681 00:52:45,079 --> 00:52:46,760 I wonder what I can make with it, and then like the following day, 682 00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:50,320 I know what you're talking about. Okay, okay, well that's the 683 00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,519 one I tagged you in. Okay, So you've been crocheting and watching Unsolved 684 00:52:53,559 --> 00:52:59,840 Mysteries. Yes, I finished both two seasons. I have to get season 685 00:53:00,039 --> 00:53:04,119 one and two, but i've finished season three and fourth. Season four is 686 00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:07,280 so long? But why did you watch three and four? First? Oh 687 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,400 that's all they had on Netflix. I didn't see one and two. Oh 688 00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:14,159 okay, I've come across those somewhere else. I think it was like Prime 689 00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:15,480 or something or was it I don't remember. Oh, I have Prime, 690 00:53:15,679 --> 00:53:19,119 will check, yeah, double check. I think that's what it was. 691 00:53:19,159 --> 00:53:21,920 I could be wrong, but it's like my go to thing because it's like 692 00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:23,360 it's like you don't have to watch the TV. It's kind of like a 693 00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:28,960 podcast. And then I get really into croching, and I've been crouching so 694 00:53:29,039 --> 00:53:31,599 much. I don't know if you saw the bag that adorable. I've been 695 00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:36,599 into Granny Squares. I love it. I love it so much. But 696 00:53:36,679 --> 00:53:39,599 yeah, that's what I've been doing. Unsolved Mysteries with William Shanner. I'm 697 00:53:39,599 --> 00:53:42,440 trying to look for more stuff like that, because you know, I like 698 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:46,280 the little documentary stuff. Yeah. There, Honestly, nothing comes close to 699 00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:52,039 it. It crutches a niche in my brain. M hm, yeah, 700 00:53:52,159 --> 00:53:54,119 there's nothing like it. It's this. It's a classic. There's a I 701 00:53:54,159 --> 00:53:59,199 don't know if you come across it, but there is a UFO Mexico City 702 00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:02,320 episode, So somewhere I'm gonna it's probably in the first two seasons, unless 703 00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:07,960 I spaced out in one of the you could have. I don't remember where 704 00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:13,719 it's at. I probably did, it's a possibility. Yeah. I finally 705 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:19,320 read the first story in Loteria by Cynthia. It's like an anthology book where 706 00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:23,360 each story is based on a Lotteria card. Oh oh yes, yes, 707 00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:27,639 yes, I've heard of this. Yes, Karmen and I Krmon has already 708 00:54:27,679 --> 00:54:30,599 read all of it. Of course she has. She is a bookworm. 709 00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:34,519 She yeah, she's been obsessed this year, specifically because last year she was 710 00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,000 like not into it, but this year she's been reading away and that's why 711 00:54:37,039 --> 00:54:40,719 she finished VS. Northest super fast. Also, I'm where are you? 712 00:54:42,159 --> 00:54:45,559 Yes, I am like two thirds through the book. I still have to 713 00:54:45,599 --> 00:54:50,000 finish. I have not had time and been like crushed. Well, my 714 00:54:50,119 --> 00:54:54,519 kids are off the summer, so I have to mother. Yeah, because 715 00:54:54,559 --> 00:54:58,760 yeah, I finished it, So all right, all right, I try, 716 00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:05,039 I'll try the pressures on. But yeah, I mean that's I know. 717 00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:07,320 Carmen's already recommended it and talked more about it, so but that would 718 00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:13,679 be my spooky recommendation. And other than that, I'm gonna end episode here 719 00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,239 because I have to be. I've been trying so much water. So I 720 00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:20,519 don't know, watch out for God, what do we even say? I 721 00:55:20,519 --> 00:55:24,199 don't even remember any of the legends. Watch out for the Oh, I 722 00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:28,920 know, don't make deals with the devil. Yeah, yes, say spooky 723 00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:30,119 and we'll catch everyone next time. Bye bye