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It is the fifteenth day of January twenty

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twenty four, allegedly according to that
thing we call a calendar, and this

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is the o'celly effect. Now,
I haven't been broadcasting on Mondays, but

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for those of you who are tuned
into the live stream, surprise, and

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for those of you catching the podcast, you don't care when I recorded it

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anyway. So here we are,
Monday, Moonday, I am kicking off

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the week. And who do I
bring on? All right? Her voy

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Yay, Okay, this is the
guy's first name, and you're gonna try

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and read it in the description and
you're probably gonna screw it up. And

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I might have just screwed it up. But interesting guy. I'll tell you

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why. Okay, why is he
of interest to me? He invited me

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to go on a radio show and
then was told by his boss's that couldn't

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be on there. Now, that's
all I want to say about that.

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I don't really care about it,
and I don't care that he promotes a

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network that fired me. It's fine
because the chuck o'chelly show used to air

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on TNT radio and doesn't anymore.
It only only made it for about a

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week there. Interesting trip and I
really was happy to get the job over

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there, but they were not happy
to have me. So it is what

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it is. But he couldn't book
me on his show. So I thought

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to myself, let's bring him on
here and find out what kind of guy

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he is. I've been chatting with
him before I went to air, and

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I'm more than happy to have him
on. How you doing today, sir,

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I'm doing good. You got my
name pretty pretty right, Kervoye Morich

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and it literally means crowat is in
Croatian. Yes, you know. It's

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funny because a guy who actually is
in Ukraine that had been displaced from the

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former Yugoslavia okay uh and ended up
in Ukraine. What wonderful trip this guy's

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had in life. He ended up
in Australia. He's actually got an Australian

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accent ethnically, he's Croatian, I
think. Okay, and he ends up

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in Ukraine and married a Ukrainian woman. He's not happy with me anymore for

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some of my views on what's going
on in Ukraine. But uh and and

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really I can understand he's in a
war zone and he's trying to survive over

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there. But he informed me about
your name when I ran it by.

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When I ran it by some friends, I said, how in the hell

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do you pronounce this? Uh and
And he said to me, well,

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that, yeah, means uh.
So, can you explain that? Where?

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What is the You know, you
don't sound like you're from over there,

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but uh tell me where? Where? Where have you been? What

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is your what is your life?
Where has it taken you that you have

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that very interesting name. I don't
think you live in the former Yugoslavia whatever

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it's called at this point. Tell
us about that. First off, I'm

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living in Narco Country, Narco Territory
down here in Mexico. By the way,

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I'm also a proud Mexican citizen.
But yeah, i'mmergently from Chicago,

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Illinois as far I was born,
so I'm a proud American. My parents

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were immigrants from the former Yugoslavia.
They were Croatians, and so I grew

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up BILINGUALI some'm fluent in Croatian,
and I actually identify first as a Croatian

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because that's my heritage, you speak
the language I've lived. We moved back

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and forth, so I grew up
between the US and Croatia, and then

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basically I studied history in Illinois,
and then I learned that America was an

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empire, and I just decided to
permanently expatriate out of the empire. And

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that was around two thousand and six, and my ticket out was Peace Corps

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Mongolia. So I went off to
live in a yurts in the Gobi Desert.

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Absolutely loved Mongolia. And then I
got a master's in international relations at

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the Geneva School of the Diploma in
Switzerland, and some of my professors were

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people like Saddam Hussein's defense lawyer,
Curtis Dobler, Alfred de Zayas, who's

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a un special reporter, Yessair Arafat's
brother in law, ibanarjhim Sus and so

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people like that. And then I
landed a gig teaching international relations, history

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politics in Mexico at the top high
school university here called the tech Tech de

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Monterday, and so I taught here
for some time and then twenty seventeen I

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got it hired in Kazakhstan at Nazarabaive
intellectual schools. And so for three years,

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four years, I was living in
Kazakhstan and then COVID nineteen eighty four

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hits, and then I ran back
to Mexico. And so in the meantime,

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I've had a podcast that I started
in around twenty twelve called Geopolitics and

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Empire, where I've interviewed probably a
lot of people you'd be familiar with.

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And then yeah, it's been it's
almost two years that I've been doing tn

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T. Yeah, I mean,
look in an incredible uh education. I

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was gonna ask you about next,
but you've already basically covered it, and

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uh I I found that most fascinating. I mean, you almost seem like

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a good candidate to be on the
CFR here, you know. Uh,

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but but apparently you've decided to think
differently. I mean, the second that

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you identify America as an empire,
right, what do you? Oh,

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you're some kind of lefty you know. And we we've gone into a weird

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area now where the left right paradigm
has taken an even greater stranglehold on people,

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even in the alleged alternative or among
the fringes, uh, politically in

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America, and it's it's become quite
a word salad anymore to describe yourself.

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Right, you know, the the
alleged conservatives, and notice how I pause

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on con Uh you know the conservative
uh you know platform here. It's weird

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to see it led by somebody like
Donald Trump, who is you know,

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the GOP guy and all that.
I don't wanna. I don't wanna bog

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you down with American politics. I
could do that with anybody. I want

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to talk about some international stuff with
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I certainly was aware of some of
that background. But your travels alone make

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it very interesting linguistically. How's your
Spanish? Your Spanish is good too,

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Yeah, I say, I mean, I'm fluent. I use it every

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day. And I'm a Mexican City
twenty eighteen and became a proud Mexican citizen

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as well. So I always joke
with all this cancel culture and wokeism in

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the in the US. If anyone, well, first of all, I'm

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a Slav. But if anyone tries
to, you know, say I'm a

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racist or white supremacist or something,
I just say I'm a Mexican. So

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I can't you know, you can't
they can't play that card with me.

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And just you know, just what
you mentioned earlier, I'm actually a Christian

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and a conservative, but I kind
of like, I don't bang it over

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people's heads. And I talk about
empire, and you know, I'm well

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aware of I'm anti empire, anti
globalist, anti oligarchy, and so you

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know, I do try to bridge
bridge divides or find the commonalities with with

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people. You know, I've I
have people from all walks on my program.

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I just love learning from people.
Like you know, a guy like

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James Corbett is now disturbing some people
right because they just figured out that he's

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sort of an anarchist. You know, I'm like, well, James has

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always kind of been that way.
He's been around a long time doing this

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stuff. How did you get started
doing the the old media thing, though,

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because it seems to me like you
could have been plenty busy in academia

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in the intellectual world. I'm sure
you could still make a fine living in

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the US if you wanted to remain
among the empire. But good on you.

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You went to the Narco state.
At least it's a little more outfront

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about what it does when it comes
to being a narco state, because as

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far as I'm concerned, the US
is one of the greatest narco states on

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the planet. It's just that we're
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here, you know, as opposed
to the production side. We let everybody

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else produce it and we consume it. Uh that's the reality of it.

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And people don't like when I start
talking about the drug war because uh,

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sorry to say. You know,
I'm one of the surviving children. You

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know, there are child soldiers in
the drug war as well, and in

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urban environments here in the US.
Guess what I knew how to Uh well,

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I knew. I knew how to
step on a supply of dope and

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spread it out better so that it
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easier and for better profit, long
before I learned how to kiss a girl,

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right, because that was the sort
of level I was on A commiserated

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on this show, uh you know
a little bit. And then during the

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break, especially with Freeway Ricky Ross
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the formula for crack in the in
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I got it on the East coast, he got it on the West coast,

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and he was a more intelligent businessman
than I was. I was just

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a kid working on cooking and mixing
and stepping on stuff. And that's a

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reality that nobody in America wants to
talk about. You know. They want

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to talk about the Chinese are bringing
us metanol, even though we had ventanyl

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in the early eighties and I was
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to add it to the dope supplies
back then. But hey, pay no

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attention to that because that's not part
of the agenda at the moment. You

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know, they want to talk about
drugs coming in from Mexico, not talk

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about the stuff that we manufacture right
here. You know, we don't need

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to get met from Mexico. It's
made in America. If you want it.

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Doesn't mean it's always good, doesn't
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that's for sure, because oh wait, now we're onto globalism and we could

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do this just with the drug paradigm
if you wanted to. But I don't

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want to do that with you,
because I think you have much more intelligent

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things to discuss. Actually, I
want to get into something with you which

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is more current, and although it's
not like the drug war is not current

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events, because it's always current events. But I want to get into some

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more current geopolitical things with you,
if you don't mind, But what are

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your views on the narco state and
the drug war and what do you think

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of that. You know, us
having the drug war the constant. You

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know, we have the opioid crisis. We have this crisis brought to you

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by our friends at Big Pharma,
who also tried to sell us this shot,

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which now some people are starting to
question. But if you tried to

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do that, you know, say
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internet. I mean I lost my
YouTube channel too for just that, well

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not for just that, but anyway, one of the main reasons why some

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of us lost YouTube channels, lost
platforms, everything else, because we questioned

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Big Pharma, who is a huge
part of the drug equation. You know,

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it's not all on the street level, and your local urban pharmacist is

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not really the biggest threat. I
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a week, but he's not making
the billions that the sacklers are making.

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He's not making the billions. And
the joke of you know, suing them

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eventually and getting a few billion dollars
back after millions of deaths, and I

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don't mean tens of thousands, which
they keep trying to count up, but

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realistically, millions of deaths result from
the stuff that they sold and peddled legally.

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Even you know, what is your
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at the moment, just in brief
mine probably aligns with yours. I've interviewed

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on my podcast An Empire Doug Valentine, a big fan of authors like Alfred

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McCoy, and basically, you know, it's always it's the empire that's involved

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as well. I've had on my
podcast Mike I forget his last name,

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Roth Miller wrote a book on Marilyn
Monroe and how she was taken out.

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And you know, he told me
a story during the podcast that he in

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the eighties, he was down in
Mexico and he met one of the heads

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I forget the agency here in Mexico
FIS, I can't remember, but the

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Mexican and intelligence dude was admitting that
they were the CIA was using planes strips

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here in Mexico to bring in the
drugs into the US. And so I

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think we're pretty much on that same
page. Here's just an example. This

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was like few weeks ago. Actually
had I tried to meet as many people

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as I can. So one of
the guests, one of my T and

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T guests who was passing through Mexico, we met, you know, we

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hung out. He came visited,
we had dinner at my home, and

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his d d or his uber driver
because of the way he looks. So

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my friend, he's he's sober,
no drugs, no drinking, but he's

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got you know, had tattoo and
with the beard American and the deed driver

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was offering him crack cocaine right in
front of my house, this Mexican taxi

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driver. And then of course,
you know, he said no, not

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interested. And then the taxi driver
comes back the next day to my native

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gated community and he invents some lie. He says, oh, your friend

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left glasses, and then he left
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know, I didn't want to meet
him. And then the glasses I see

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that he just they were like two
dollars, you know, vocals you buy

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at the pharmacy. So he he
just and he had left his card,

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so he just lie and said,
oh, your friend forgot these as he

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was hoping I would buy some crack
coquat. And so that's how it is

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here in Mexico, the narco state. But yeah, it's it's it's you

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know, I think I probably agree
with your explanation. We've got the Empire

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US, you know, London,
Brussels involved in the drug trade all over

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the place, you know, de
e a, CIA and all this stuff,

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and they're working with the different agencies
are working together. The Mexican government's

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corrupted. You know, there was
a story that broke recently. This is

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software called Titan here in Mexico.
The back end was created by Israelis,

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but it's being run by Mexican Mexican
government, and it's a database. You

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punching somebody's name here in Mexico,
and the government can look at you.

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They find your bank account, they
find your address, they find your all

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this stuff, and then they can
just go like locate you. And then

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the government officials, the Mexican police
sell resell those licenses to narcos. Yeah,

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no, but that's the thing is
that, you know, it's a little

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more on the surface in Mexico,
you know. But but we have the

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same thing here. That's why I
love bringing on Seally Castillo because he was

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a former DA agent and then they
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field knowing that there was a hit
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that he was an undercover agent.
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if you ever read the book Powder
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that. And of course you've seen
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that was made some years ago,
a guy who you know, had to

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basically escape and try not to get
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And his explanation is real world where
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talking about because you know, immigration
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why I want to begin to talk
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Uh you know, it's it's the
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Right What are we going to do
about the illegal immigrants one way or another,

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or the illegal aliens or you know, what is the more politically correct

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term. I forget because I'm not
politically correct, But what in the hell,

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you know, why why are we
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listen to the Trumps of the world, you listen to the alleged right wing,

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it's because they're sending rapists, they're
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That's all that Mexico is pouring over
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people are trying to escape those people. Okay, and I say, if

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we want to stop having, you
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to breach the southern border, maybe
we should stop screwing around with Central and

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South America and maybe stop destroying their
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a lot of them. Uh.
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goes, I always find it amazing
that there are people that literally have this

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image in their minds that there are
people walking across the Rio Grande with backpacks

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loaded down with dope to bring it
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drugs are getting in. That's not
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big business. That's not the way
Seneloa or any other cartel runs things.

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Okay, you know, the reality
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and every once in a while they
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that are normally getting paid off at
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jobs, so they stay in place
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the reality. And Selly's funny because
he lives right there on the border still

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and he talks about, you know, look, why is it that there's

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nothing but in broke neighborhoods, you
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car dealerships popping up everywhere. It's
because all the drug money that's here is

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getting guess what, laundered right here
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So the money's coming in, the
money's coming in, the money's coming

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out, but the drugs are not
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poor drug mules. I mean,
that's the kind of thing you put

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on a TV show so you can
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world. How do I know this
because I've been around organ crime of different

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stripes, you know, just like
you, you're proud of your hair to

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jump out of mine too. But
I'm also realistic, you know, And

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I've got a Sicilian name, and
I knew some of those guys, you

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know, because I'm sure you can
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the New York, New Jersey area. That's where I grew up. And

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yeah, indeed, you don't do
business like you know on the backpacks of

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people that are struggling, and you
know that you can pay a little bit

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of money to be a drug mule. That's not how you get a business

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to consistently run. Okay, So
it's the point of entry that causes these

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things to pour in the way they
do. And what do you do you

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pay off a guy if they can
only be paid fifty sixty one hundred thousand

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dollars by the DEA to guard the
border. Well, if you show up

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with three times, four times,
five times, they're a yearly salary and

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you tell them they can have that
twice a year, guess what you're gonna

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get? Friendly people at the border. And it doesn't matter if you traffic

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people, you traffic drugs or whatever
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this is how things move. But
I don't know, it's like people fail

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to understand this. Anyway, Let's
get to something else people fail to understand.

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In my mind, if you don't
mind, because I can't get somebody

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to come on this show and have
an open discussion about guess what what's happening

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regarding Israel and Palestine. All I've
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Okay, they're in prescribed positions regarding
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the kind of experience, who has
the kind of education, who should be

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able to break this down and explain
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because, as I predicted, even
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the old media is bothering to pay
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It is becoming a regional conflict from
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do say alleged because I have to
say alleged over and over again regarding all

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this stuff. The reports are difficult
to lay your fingers on. Do I

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know there's violence happening? Do I
know there's bombing happening? Do I know

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the IDF is involved? Yes?
Do I know that there are Palestinians that

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are launching weapons, yes? Indeed? But do I really know about these

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tunnels and everything else? Forget the
details. How is it that you can

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explain what's happening in a geopolitical sense, because this to me looks like a

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strategy to set something else in motion. And I'm curious about how somebody with

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your education is viewing this conflict from
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we let's see one, two,
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in to this conflict? Uh,
but of course it is the continuation of

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previous conflicts. How do you see
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This is the million dollar question,
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Like I say, I I think
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and I take sort of a middle
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Ian Davis, who's a UK blogger. He wrote a great lengthy article titled

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was Alex Flood a False Flag?
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And so I think there are different
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interview three years ago on my podcast
with doctor Francis Boyle, and you know,

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just going back to COVID for a
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interview him in January of twenty twenty
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was a biological offensive, biological warfare
weapon, and that got the three hundred

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thousand views, it was taken down. The next day, my face was

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on the front page of infu Wars. Alex Jones was doing a play by

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play of my interview with Francis Boyle. So he's an expert on biotarism but

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also the Middle East, and I
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we have Washington, you know,
I call it the the unholy Trinity,

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right, Washington, London and Brussels. And you can throw in Tel Aviv

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as well if you're willing, by
the way, if you're willing to pass

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along a contact for doctor Boyle,
I would love to try and interview.

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Sure, yeah, I can pass
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please continue though, because that's the
guy I wanted to nail down as soon

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as I heard about. Because I
did hear about your interview. I forgot

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that you did it, but I
remember this, and I also remember that

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article again, see now, because
I go through so much stuff, you

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know, trying to look for alternative
explanations, intelligent things being published elsewhere,

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you know, outside of the corporate
media here in the US, and it's

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quite a dig sometimes, and to
be honest with you, I'm amazed.

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I didn't realize that I've already read
some things that you were involved in publishing.

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Go ahead, so please continue.
Actually the first chapter of his latest

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book, Medical Tyranny. It's the
transcription of my interview with him, and

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it's the first chapter. But you
know, he was making the point in

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that interview because we talked about the
Middle East, Iran, Israel that you

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know, the Western Empire once fulls
by from dominance, it wants to take

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over the planet. It wants to
remove any countries that don't fully want to

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integrate into the whole. You know, Britain, Wood System, I am

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at for World Bank and all that
and those you know, those countries.

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You know, it's like Syria,
Iran, Russia, China, North Korea,

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Venezuela. And so I feel for
a long time that the plan has

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always been to go to war with
Iran. So what you just laid out

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the situation we have in Israel Gaza
now is it's it's leading to it's a

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great pretext to launch war with Iran
by the West, and that would be

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basically, you know, world War
three perhaps, So that's one angle I

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think, Uh, you know,
Israel has also expansionist desire for Greater Israel.

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I have guests on and the question
is, you know, is Washington

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using tel Aviv or is tel Aviv
using Washington. That's un clear. And

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you know, from my Christian worldview
as well, I believe in a lot

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of the prophecy and you know,
world government. I think a lot of

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this also has to do with world
government. That's a big factor in my

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analysis. I'm reading a book from
nineteen seventy right now, in an academic

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book that talks about how we need
to lower the population, we need to

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get rid of democracy and put in
basically like technocracy or scientific dictatorship, which

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is what they tried with COVID,
and that we need to have world government.

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You know, they call it global
governance, global government, and they

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in that book, and this is
not the only place that I've read this.

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In these elite white papers, they
talk about they need us to relinquish

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our sovereignty and to accept a global, you know, supernational global system that

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will dictate everything. And they say
in this book that we could have a

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series of limited wars, which is
exactly what we're seeing Ukraine, Israel,

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possibly Taiwan. You know, there's
insert and Balkins now there's again stuff going

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on limited wars that have the threat
of expansion. Right, it's always it's

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not a limited war where it's absolutely
going to be contained, because we have

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that all over Africa constantly. That's
not useful to the agenda. You need

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something that is a limited conflict that
has the explicit threat that it could spread

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very easily, almost like a wildfire, right, because that's that's part of

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the equation as well. Look,
I am interrupting you for a very good

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reason here. We got limited time, and I want to get straight to

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something. And it's going to be
a personal question. So my apology is

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if this is offensive to you,
but I'm gonna lay it to you.

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I'm not a Christian, all right, and I'm not a Christian, I'm

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not a Jew. I count myself
as a pagan. So I ask this

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question with no sensitivity attached to it. Okay, here's the thing. I

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realized that from the pulpits okay,
the general uh, sort of western westernized

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Christian education has been to inform the
flock one way or another from the pulpit

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here in America, for sure.
But I have a feeling this is an

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international thing. Uh, And I'm
not asking. I don't want to step

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into too many of your own personal
beliefs, but just this one key point,

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uh, the idea that you've been
encouraged as a Christian to believe that

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to speak against the state of Israel
is literally like an abomination, It's against

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God to do so, right as
a Christian. I've heard this explanation from

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I don't believe that, right,
Okay, I don't, no, but

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I wanted to put it in context
with you, you know, like,

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this is part of why it is. I believe a lot of people have

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been encouraged to simply fall right in
line and say automatically, I mean they

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in America. We also hear there
are only ally in the Middle East,

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blah blah. We hear all that, But what is the truth of this?

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Do you think that there is an
undertone here where? Uh? Because

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again, when you start reading about
global governments governance, and they start talking

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about the use of the of the
more general religious facilities to encourage people to

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submit to acquiesce to turn over their
will, they talk about utilizing them to

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basically for political means, which is
something that should not be done. You

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know. It isn't about the politics. Okay, if you're if you're getting

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in touch with with your God.
I don't think your God really gives a

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damn who's a Republican or a Democrat, or you know, who happens to

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be of the Conservative or Workers Party. Okay, I don't think that that's

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a reality unless it affects their moral
actions things like that. But it seems

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to me as though there is that
lever that is utilized and was put into

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place. What are your thoughts on
that? You don't believe it, but

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you know, there are many people
who would call themselves by the same name

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as you and say I'm a Christian, I'm a Conservative, and therefore they

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would follow along with that reasoning,
wouldn't they that to speak against Israel,

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to take a side against Israel,
even though it's the modern nation state of

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Israel, not the biblical Israel.
But don't start arguing with them about that,

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because they'll tell you this is,
you know, all biblical. So

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what about that angle on it?
What do you think is that being used

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as a lever or do you have
a feeling since you don't believe it,

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do you have a feeling that there
is some consequence there is something to this

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that could be interpreted in a biblical
way or not. Yeah, I mean

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I don't have all the answers.
I think it is being used as a

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lever even here with my Mexican friends
and Mexican Christians we have over the weekends

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as chatological or the base on thischatology, and even they themselves, some of

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them, their theology says, yeah, the state of Israel is not important

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from a biblical perspective, right,
So they're on the other extreme of more

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of the mainstream. I might even
call it not all. But there's a

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lot of fake Christianity. This was
warned about fake church's, fake profits,

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fake Christianity that that's in the US. You know, it's aligned with the

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Republican Party, totally Zionists. I
mean, everyone knows who we're talking about

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with them that say you cannot criticize
Israel. So there's that example that you

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put out there, and I think
that's not good because obviously we see,

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I mean, Israel's killing people in
Gaza, some of them are actually Palestinian

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Christians. So for me, it's
like that that's a big question, like

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I could have easily been one of
those you know, Palaestinian Christians living there,

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and how do you square that,
you know, when you talk about

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these mainline Christians who are you know, don't don't criticize Israel, yet they're

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killing other Christians in Gaza. So
again, there are a lot of things

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like that you bring up that that
that doesn't kind quite square, but it's

408
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definitely being used. And of course, yeah, religions are being used.

409
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One of the avenues that I look
at that are fascinating for me because I've

410
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studied the occult previously and theosophy,
and I subscribe to the Lutz's Trust news

411
00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:03.960
letter. They used to be called
They were founded in nineteen twenty two by

412
00:29:03.720 --> 00:29:08.880
Alice Bailey, who followed of Helena
Blavatski. They were called Lucifer Publishing.

413
00:29:10.359 --> 00:29:12.759
I actually went to one of their
meetings in Geneva two thousand and nine,

414
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because they have their offices in New
York, London and Geneva. And they

415
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actually believe that Lucifer is the Christ
or the Messiah, and they say and

416
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they're official NGO that's affiliated with you
un And you know, just over the

417
00:29:29.000 --> 00:29:33.279
weekend they sent out a newsletter that
said they are standing in full support of

418
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the Davos meeting this week, and
that they're basically saying that all these conferences,

419
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these UN and World Economic Form conferences, are preparations for the return of

420
00:29:45.839 --> 00:29:48.440
the Christ, which they say,
from a Christian perspective it would be considered

421
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the anti Christ. But the fact
that you have these, you know,

422
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secular groups like Luci's Trust saying that
there's calming this world. Teacher, he's

423
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here. He's the Maitrea for the
you know, Eastern religion, he's the

424
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Mahti for the Muslims, he's the
Christ for the Christians. And so for

425
00:30:03.519 --> 00:30:07.359
me, that's kind of interesting.
But I definitely agree with you religion is

426
00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:11.599
being leveraged and shouldn't. My view
is kind of how you mentioned. You

427
00:30:11.640 --> 00:30:15.839
know, Christ told ponscious Pilot,
you know, well, he said,

428
00:30:15.880 --> 00:30:17.720
you know, gift to Caesar,
what is Caesar's gift to God? What

429
00:30:17.799 --> 00:30:19.640
is God's? He said, my
kingdom is not of this world, so

430
00:30:19.680 --> 00:30:22.640
you know, he could have easily
brought a But by that I think he

431
00:30:22.720 --> 00:30:26.240
meant the solution is not political,
right, the whole thing about Christianity,

432
00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:32.480
it's spiritual, and so I for
you know, Jesus could have gotten out

433
00:30:32.480 --> 00:30:34.519
of being christified but he didn't.
So the point was that, as you

434
00:30:34.559 --> 00:30:38.519
say, you know, for me, as a Christian, I think my

435
00:30:38.720 --> 00:30:41.839
focus should be more on spiritual and
not on the politics, which is you

436
00:30:41.880 --> 00:30:45.559
know, that's why I recognize we
have a unit party, you know,

437
00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:49.680
the Republicans and Democrats is just one
party. So no, absolutely no,

438
00:30:49.880 --> 00:30:52.119
And I appreciate all that, but
I figured I'll just put you in the

439
00:30:52.200 --> 00:30:57.240
uncomfortable seat for a minute and go
for it, because I doubt anybody else

440
00:30:57.319 --> 00:31:02.079
is going to ask you that,
you know, but it is odd to

441
00:31:02.079 --> 00:31:04.359
see. Look, I always think
of it as when when we're looking at

442
00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:08.039
circumstances like this, this is not
the end of the game. There is

443
00:31:08.079 --> 00:31:14.160
always a greater plan going forward.
Now, this idea about the uh,

444
00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:18.519
you know, the the end goal
being Iran, it's interesting to me because

445
00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:21.920
that has been the thing that people
have said for a very long time,

446
00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:27.079
and thus far they've sort of failed
to bring Iran into a wider conflict,

447
00:31:27.119 --> 00:31:30.319
regardless of the fact that they say
they sponsored terrorism all around the world dot

448
00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:33.559
dot We know all those talking points. But here's the thing about it.

449
00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:40.160
They have not been able to get
them to directly attack us, so to

450
00:31:40.200 --> 00:31:42.480
speak. Have they Uh, they've
not been able to get them to directly

451
00:31:42.519 --> 00:31:48.359
go into Ah, you know,
into a circumstance where they're trying to invade

452
00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:52.839
and take over other countries. Looks
like to me. And this despite this

453
00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:56.000
very long and storied history. I
mean, I'm sure you well know about

454
00:31:56.640 --> 00:32:00.440
what the American government under you know, the austinesses of the OSS later the

455
00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:07.000
CIA did regarding you know, the
overthrow of Mozaedek and all that you know,

456
00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:08.799
and then we take a look at
this history that has continued on through

457
00:32:08.839 --> 00:32:12.240
the you know, what they called
the hostage crisis, et cetera, et

458
00:32:12.279 --> 00:32:16.720
cetera. You have a very complex
history here, and yet they've never quite

459
00:32:16.759 --> 00:32:22.799
been able to get the justification to
make the invasion right. They've never been

460
00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:27.640
able to make it so that there
was a justification. Do you think that

461
00:32:27.960 --> 00:32:31.680
this might be the time that they're
going to finally try to kick that into

462
00:32:31.480 --> 00:32:37.759
into full swing here where we're looking
at, Well, Iran is now the

463
00:32:37.839 --> 00:32:40.319
named enemy, we have a justification. I mean, clearly they're not going

464
00:32:40.400 --> 00:32:46.440
to treat it like they did Iraq
because Iraq was not as functional as as

465
00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:51.559
Iran is as a nation state.
Iraq didn't have the Allies that Iran has

466
00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:55.759
Iran is a different thing than Iraq. It will not go the same way

467
00:32:57.079 --> 00:32:59.519
if we were to say, try
to pull the same crap that they pulled

468
00:32:59.559 --> 00:33:02.480
on Sada Mussein, who was you
know, previously an asset for our intelligence

469
00:33:02.519 --> 00:33:07.440
agents until they decided to burn him. And by the way, I think

470
00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:09.519
there's an element of that at play
here too, where you know, much

471
00:33:09.599 --> 00:33:14.079
like people had pointed out that,
you know, Hamas was something that was

472
00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:19.000
encouraged by the Israeli government, by
the Israeli intelligence et cetera, et cetera

473
00:33:19.799 --> 00:33:22.240
for a while, I think that
there was an encouragement. But well,

474
00:33:22.279 --> 00:33:25.599
I know for a fact there was
encouragement of you know, the the Iraqi

475
00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:30.920
side of the equation again until Hussein
had served whatever purposes they decided could serve,

476
00:33:31.400 --> 00:33:35.559
and then they got rid of him. But I don't think they could

477
00:33:35.640 --> 00:33:39.680
possibly play the same kind of game
they did in Iraq in Iran. What

478
00:33:39.720 --> 00:33:44.119
are your thoughts on that? Well, I think I think the elites in

479
00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:50.759
the West are sociopaths, and they're
willing to start another global war and have

480
00:33:50.880 --> 00:33:54.960
millions of people die. In fact, Russia Today published in December, I

481
00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:58.680
just I just saw this. The
other day. A professor from Australia wrote

482
00:33:59.200 --> 00:34:04.200
precisely to this point about World War
three and that it would serve the oligarchical,

483
00:34:04.640 --> 00:34:08.000
Malthusian eugenicist interests. You know,
a war that kills tens of millions,

484
00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:12.719
hundreds of millions of people because it
will lower the population. People would

485
00:34:12.719 --> 00:34:17.960
die through starvation, famine, all
these other disease, and it would It's

486
00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:22.239
the same pattern throughout the twentieth century. It would serve they could build back,

487
00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:27.719
better, build a new technocratic,
smart city type of system or wherever

488
00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:31.679
the bombs have hit, and then
create a new world organization. You know,

489
00:34:31.719 --> 00:34:35.000
it's the same thing World War one, Leg of Nations, World War

490
00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:37.800
two, United Nations. And then
I'm looking at my interview with Francis Boyle

491
00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:42.280
from twenty twenty. He says the
title was war with around could be imminent

492
00:34:42.360 --> 00:34:45.800
Russian China or the endgame. And
he says putin after Munich decided we better

493
00:34:46.159 --> 00:34:51.400
rearm. The ultimate objective is Russia, no question, unlimited imperialism. We'll

494
00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:53.360
try and conquer the entire world if
they can get away with it, unless

495
00:34:53.360 --> 00:34:57.360
they are stopped. The US intends
to conquer as much of the world as

496
00:34:57.360 --> 00:35:00.920
they can. This will continue until
an organized grow but people stand up to

497
00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:04.199
stop them. It does appear Putin
and Hi Jinking have decided to stand up

498
00:35:04.239 --> 00:35:07.280
to try to stop it, says
Francis Boyle, and so, and then

499
00:35:07.320 --> 00:35:08.800
you go back to Westley Clark Clark. A lot of us are familiar with,

500
00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:10.960
you know, Wesley Clark. I
think in two thousand and eight he

501
00:35:12.000 --> 00:35:14.920
gave this interview where in two thousand
and one he was told, so this

502
00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:17.559
is two thousand and one, he
was told, Yeah, Pentagon's going to

503
00:35:17.559 --> 00:35:22.719
take out seven Middle Eastern countries in
five years, right, Syria, Libya,

504
00:35:23.320 --> 00:35:27.280
it was a Suddan or Somalia,
and then the final was Iran.

505
00:35:27.639 --> 00:35:31.760
And so the fact that they have
actually carried through on most of those countries

506
00:35:32.400 --> 00:35:37.000
and Iran is one of the last
ones, it kind of does seem to

507
00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:40.960
say that they do really intend to
go for Iran and just timing, I

508
00:35:40.960 --> 00:35:45.840
guess, is the issue. And
then the question is, you know,

509
00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:50.599
are how is the rest of the
world going to respond, you know,

510
00:35:50.719 --> 00:35:53.079
China and Russia, will they then, you know, come into the fray?

511
00:35:53.559 --> 00:35:58.360
And so I do feel like we
are headed into this war because these

512
00:35:58.400 --> 00:36:02.760
sociopaths, you know, they've got
their bunkers and whatever, and so they

513
00:36:02.760 --> 00:36:07.400
don't really care. They're crazy enough
to do this, and so I think

514
00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:12.760
the question is, and they're they're
kind of scripting. It's kind of like

515
00:36:12.760 --> 00:36:15.880
a play, right, So they
need us to see like, oh,

516
00:36:15.039 --> 00:36:17.719
you know, and they use false
flags, right, So they're always using

517
00:36:17.760 --> 00:36:22.400
false flags, and so, you
know, Seymour Hirsch broke in two thousand

518
00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:28.559
and seven this story how in the
Bush administration they were discussing dressing up US

519
00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:35.239
Navy seals as Iranians and then attacking
other US forces and blaming it on Iran.

520
00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:39.360
And so I think we may be
waiting for a false flag type of

521
00:36:39.679 --> 00:36:45.639
events. And I've had a number
of guests on my podcast say that the

522
00:36:45.119 --> 00:36:51.119
dangerous years more specifically are between twenty
twenty five and twenty thirty, you know,

523
00:36:51.159 --> 00:36:55.199
getting closer to twenty twenty thirty.
So, well, it's interesting because

524
00:36:55.280 --> 00:37:00.159
astrologically, I would say that twenty
thirty is a pivotal year for sure,

525
00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:05.760
you know. And again I'm looking
at something that's similar to prophecy, and

526
00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:08.199
it seems like it's all starting to
line up from different schools of thought here

527
00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:12.480
but again, I don't want to
delve into that too much with you.

528
00:37:13.119 --> 00:37:15.440
The thing that I'm more concerned about
though, is that, you know,

529
00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:20.679
as we see this this economic crisis
occur among you know, most people,

530
00:37:20.679 --> 00:37:23.000
we're getting quite a bit involved a
lot of us anyway, and just trying

531
00:37:23.039 --> 00:37:28.000
to survive on a weekly basis,
right, just trying to get through day

532
00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:34.280
by day, some of us even
because of the increased pressures that are just

533
00:37:34.559 --> 00:37:38.519
on survival, even in the Western
world. And I think that is an

534
00:37:38.519 --> 00:37:43.880
element that is being ignored because what
is this interesting pattern that seems to occur,

535
00:37:44.320 --> 00:37:49.280
at least you know, studying US
history, we see economic downturn which

536
00:37:49.320 --> 00:37:54.639
is then followed by some sort of
conflict, which again reduces the population as

537
00:37:54.639 --> 00:37:58.000
far as you know. I remember
the first time, when I was a

538
00:37:58.039 --> 00:38:00.800
little kid, somebody told me that
the purpose of being Vietnam was to eliminate

539
00:38:01.079 --> 00:38:06.880
people that would be otherwise unemployed.
I found that to be a strange statement

540
00:38:06.920 --> 00:38:09.599
in you know, nineteen seventy eight, but you know, I was only

541
00:38:09.599 --> 00:38:13.800
six years old back then. It
didn't make much sense. But here's the

542
00:38:13.840 --> 00:38:17.239
thing. Everything is economics too.
I think we're being set up for.

543
00:38:17.400 --> 00:38:22.159
Look, here's your problem, your
reaction, and your solution. How are

544
00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:24.400
we going to get ourselves out of
this economic hole? We might be able

545
00:38:24.400 --> 00:38:29.159
to do it with a war.
We might be able to do it just

546
00:38:29.519 --> 00:38:31.559
like that, And that would create
a whole lot of you know, new

547
00:38:31.559 --> 00:38:36.760
business opportunities for people that go in
and rebuild things. Of course, you

548
00:38:36.800 --> 00:38:39.639
know, I learned that on the
front line. Even after Desert Storm was

549
00:38:39.719 --> 00:38:43.280
interesting. I watched a whole bunch
of people. I mean, I was

550
00:38:43.320 --> 00:38:47.480
even invited to go ahead and live
in the in the what was it that

551
00:38:47.599 --> 00:38:52.920
small country? Now, oh my
goodness, the thing he invaded allegedly kuwait

552
00:38:53.119 --> 00:38:58.280
right, I was invited to go
live there to do contract work with guys,

553
00:38:58.280 --> 00:39:00.840
and I was I was going to
be unskilled labor as a young man

554
00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:04.639
to go there. They were going
to pay exorbitant amounts for unskilled labor even

555
00:39:04.679 --> 00:39:07.880
to go there new construction because there
was just so much money that was going

556
00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:13.199
to pour out of what rebuilding what
they were able to accomplish in thirty days

557
00:39:13.199 --> 00:39:16.599
destroying, they wanted to rebuild it, you know, it was it was

558
00:39:16.639 --> 00:39:21.760
insane and the amount of money that's
made, I mean, there's not much

559
00:39:21.800 --> 00:39:24.000
to rebuild in Afghanistan, and of
course they handed that back over to the

560
00:39:24.039 --> 00:39:30.360
Taliban. That's another conversation, I
guess. But it's interesting the way these

561
00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:32.800
things come and go and the finances
that are involved. And after all,

562
00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:37.280
you do have to keep feeding the
military industrial complex something, because that beast

563
00:39:37.320 --> 00:39:42.320
needs to eat. And you know, they can keep creating new planes that

564
00:39:42.360 --> 00:39:45.559
don't fly or whatever for a little
while, but after a time you got

565
00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:51.079
to start shooting. You got to
start shooting bullets and replacing them and replenishing

566
00:39:51.079 --> 00:39:53.360
them one way or another, which
is really what this thing is about with

567
00:39:53.480 --> 00:39:57.480
Ukraine, where they're talking about the
amount of money that you know, is

568
00:39:57.519 --> 00:40:00.000
being resupplied to them and this and
that. No, they're supplying them with

569
00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:05.079
materials that then we have to replace
so that we have it. That's how

570
00:40:05.079 --> 00:40:08.960
that works. So it's not a
direct monetary payment, but it's the replenishment

571
00:40:09.159 --> 00:40:14.400
of now old supplies. Take the
dust off of this, get it out

572
00:40:14.400 --> 00:40:16.760
there and use it, you know, blow the dust off it, literally,

573
00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:20.320
get it out there and use it. And now we have to replace

574
00:40:20.360 --> 00:40:23.400
it for ourselves. So therefore,
you keep all these contractors in business.

575
00:40:23.480 --> 00:40:28.519
You keep all of these you know, creators of different things, whether it's

576
00:40:28.519 --> 00:40:34.719
planes or bombs or backpacks or MRIs. It doesn't matter if you ship them

577
00:40:34.719 --> 00:40:37.000
somewhere else. You got to replace
them afterwards. So it keeps the factories

578
00:40:37.079 --> 00:40:43.119
rolling what we have of them,
right, so those businesses stay fed.

579
00:40:43.599 --> 00:40:46.320
This is the way this works.
So I'm thinking the economic downturn is at

580
00:40:46.360 --> 00:40:52.000
a perfect time. And I'm thinking, quite frankly, and I hate to

581
00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:54.199
make predictions, but I'm thinking,
quite frankly, we need to time.

582
00:40:54.239 --> 00:40:58.199
I mean, there's going to be
such a disillusionment with this twenty twenty four

583
00:40:58.320 --> 00:41:02.119
selection. And I did say selection
in November here because I think they're going

584
00:41:02.199 --> 00:41:06.360
to reinstall Trump, and I think
he might be the right man for the

585
00:41:06.480 --> 00:41:08.239
job, because he's going to go
around and make a whole lot of hyperbolic

586
00:41:08.320 --> 00:41:12.320
statements. And if they don't put
him in there, they're gonna have to

587
00:41:12.360 --> 00:41:16.960
put somebody else in there besides you
know, sleepwalking Joe, to get things

588
00:41:17.000 --> 00:41:22.599
done. And I think war is
in our very near future. They might

589
00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:25.599
actually declare it this time. But
I do find it strange, and I'm

590
00:41:25.639 --> 00:41:30.760
curious about this. I need to
ask you. Do you find it odd

591
00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:34.960
that even though you and I can
lay our hands on reports of a lot

592
00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:39.360
more action, a lot more live
fire things occurring in different parts of the

593
00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:45.360
world right now than was a couple
of months ago, and yet nobody is

594
00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:49.880
really focusing on it. It's not
making the headlines. Every shot in Ukraine

595
00:41:49.960 --> 00:41:53.440
used to make the headlines, but
now two years in it's almost disappeared from

596
00:41:53.480 --> 00:41:58.400
the main headlines, as opposed to
where it was not so long ago.

597
00:41:58.480 --> 00:42:00.519
You know, you had to pick
a side, pick a not too long

598
00:42:00.559 --> 00:42:06.000
ago there. Now it's not the
main focus, and they're not talking about

599
00:42:06.039 --> 00:42:08.719
what's happening in Lebanon. They're not
really talking about, you know, some

600
00:42:08.760 --> 00:42:14.280
of these strikes going on here or
there. And I found it even weird,

601
00:42:14.440 --> 00:42:19.320
this whole like explanation, like the
Sulimani thing at the memorial site right

602
00:42:20.880 --> 00:42:24.119
that to me is a and nobody's
really asked a question what the hell actually

603
00:42:24.159 --> 00:42:29.280
happened there? And I'm telling you, the alt media has dropped the ball

604
00:42:29.280 --> 00:42:31.199
here. I don't have the resources
to go ahead and send people over there

605
00:42:31.239 --> 00:42:35.719
to find out, and god knows, I wouldn't even want to be responsible

606
00:42:35.760 --> 00:42:37.920
for sending people into some of these
hot zones right now. But here's the

607
00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:42.559
truth. We're not getting a lot
of reports on a lot of things that

608
00:42:42.599 --> 00:42:45.440
are happening. So what do you
think that's all about. Do you think

609
00:42:45.519 --> 00:42:52.719
there's going to be a run up
and a new pr campaign to get us

610
00:42:52.840 --> 00:42:55.719
again crying out for like, I
don't know, war on terror two point

611
00:42:55.800 --> 00:43:00.440
oh, except this time we don't
have a nine to eleven on a American

612
00:43:00.480 --> 00:43:02.519
soil. We had the you know, they kept saying it was the nine

613
00:43:02.559 --> 00:43:07.440
to eleven for Israel. We don't
have a nine to eleven on American soil,

614
00:43:07.079 --> 00:43:10.079
but we do have a justification because
we've got to protect our ally.

615
00:43:10.360 --> 00:43:15.199
Or do you feel as though maybe
we are now waiting on some other false

616
00:43:15.239 --> 00:43:22.480
flag attack here on American assets which
will again get people nice and blood thirsty

617
00:43:22.920 --> 00:43:25.639
and get them out there screaming for
vengeance like we did in two thousand and

618
00:43:25.639 --> 00:43:30.119
one. What are your thoughts on
that? Is to comment? You know,

619
00:43:30.199 --> 00:43:34.239
I largely agree with a lot of
your extrapolations. You know, we

620
00:43:34.280 --> 00:43:37.880
did have we have Neo Khan and
Nikki Haley right the second coming of Hillary

621
00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:42.760
Clinton, which I think they're all
the establishment is behind, you know,

622
00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:45.960
betting on a number of horses.
But yeah, as you said, We're

623
00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:51.320
already seeing them put out this narrative
of Iran hitting the US that it's some

624
00:43:51.360 --> 00:43:54.639
of the people coming in through the
border or Iranian sleeper cells, and so

625
00:43:54.800 --> 00:43:59.280
they're drumming that up again. And
as well as an alt media. I've

626
00:43:59.320 --> 00:44:04.880
been talking about this a lot,
how I've got a strong growing distrust of

627
00:44:05.000 --> 00:44:09.559
independent or alternative media because again,
some of them have strange stuff going on

628
00:44:09.679 --> 00:44:15.599
behind them, and this is just
what the establishment would do. They would

629
00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:20.519
infiltrate, create or infiltrate alt media, and so the new media would become

630
00:44:20.559 --> 00:44:23.280
like legacy media. And you know, just one example, I went to

631
00:44:23.320 --> 00:44:28.920
this conference last year was called American
Freedom Alliance, and it was good.

632
00:44:28.960 --> 00:44:31.639
Some of a number of my past
guests were there, and it was a

633
00:44:31.679 --> 00:44:34.960
mixed bag. You know, you
have a lot of really great people,

634
00:44:35.000 --> 00:44:38.719
you Michael rechnawall libertarian, he speaks
out against the Great Reset and globalism.

635
00:44:38.920 --> 00:44:44.519
Then you've got some of these guys
who are they're almost like neocons in disguise.

636
00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:49.039
They're NonStop talking about hitting you know, China, China, China,

637
00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:52.199
We gotta go to world with China. China bad around bad Venezuela, bad,

638
00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:53.880
but they're in the new media,
so that they will talk about the

639
00:44:53.920 --> 00:44:59.800
COVID realities, they will talk about
globalism, but then one of the strong

640
00:44:59.840 --> 00:45:02.519
lines against you know, war with
they're on in China. So it's kind

641
00:45:02.519 --> 00:45:07.440
of like they're they're already playing out
this narrative. So we just need some

642
00:45:07.559 --> 00:45:10.559
type of events. And so,
yeah, it does seem we are headed

643
00:45:10.559 --> 00:45:15.239
in that direction. I could see
Trump coming back as well. Uh,

644
00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:19.639
and yeah, it just doesn't look
good. Okay, so you're not one

645
00:45:19.679 --> 00:45:22.920
of these guys who thinks that he's
an actual outsider or anything. I mean,

646
00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:27.079
he's clearly a tool of the establishment
one way or another. I would

647
00:45:27.159 --> 00:45:29.760
agree. Yeah, I mean I've
got a strange theory again links to my

648
00:45:29.840 --> 00:45:32.800
Christian stuff. I had this guy
called Donnie Darkins on my TNT show.

649
00:45:32.920 --> 00:45:37.679
He's got like one hundred thousand followers, a YouTube guy. No, he's

650
00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:42.559
got he's only on Twitter and he's
got he's anonymous, and he's got this

651
00:45:42.639 --> 00:45:45.000
thesis that and we'll have to see
how it plays out this year. It

652
00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:51.000
may not be true, but that
the system is behind Trump, but they've

653
00:45:51.000 --> 00:45:53.639
played again. But it has a
lot to do with this new age theosophic

654
00:45:55.199 --> 00:46:00.920
stuff where because I've been seeing old
media also growingly new ages coming into alt

655
00:46:01.000 --> 00:46:05.239
media, and they're talking a lot
about a lot of about a lot of

656
00:46:05.280 --> 00:46:09.360
anti Christian stuff, you know,
christ consciousness one ism. But and there's

657
00:46:09.360 --> 00:46:13.960
this whole Great Awakening thing, and
so this guy's thesis is that, you

658
00:46:14.000 --> 00:46:15.119
know, you've got the great reset, Great Awakening, and so it's kind

659
00:46:15.119 --> 00:46:20.159
of a deception where Trump will come
back and he'll go against Davos and all

660
00:46:20.159 --> 00:46:23.079
this stuff and the deep state in
America and everything's gonna be Look, you

661
00:46:23.119 --> 00:46:27.000
know, that's great, But in
reality, he's ushering in, you know,

662
00:46:27.039 --> 00:46:29.920
this sort of age of Aquarius,
this this false light, this Great

663
00:46:29.960 --> 00:46:32.679
Awakening, where that is like the
real new World Order, and what we've

664
00:46:32.679 --> 00:46:37.000
been seeing up until now is the
counterfeit new world Order. And you know,

665
00:46:37.079 --> 00:46:40.360
like in the esoteric you've got like
black magicians and white magicians, and

666
00:46:40.400 --> 00:46:45.239
so he'd be taking down the black
magicians meanwhile, So it's just two signs

667
00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:47.599
of the same coin. So I
could see that sort of scenario, but

668
00:46:47.800 --> 00:46:51.599
I don't really and Trump, I
mean, come on, he headed up

669
00:46:51.639 --> 00:46:55.679
Operation Warp Speed and also all the
all these sorts of things, So yeah,

670
00:46:55.880 --> 00:47:00.360
I wouldn't I personally would not vote
for Trump. Okay, no,

671
00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:02.000
fair enough. And look, that's
not to say that either one of us

672
00:47:02.000 --> 00:47:06.159
would support the Democratic side, because
that's always the other. Well, then

673
00:47:06.199 --> 00:47:08.320
I guess you support Biden. No. Actually, what I would like to

674
00:47:08.360 --> 00:47:13.360
see is, you know, somebody
that's actually interested in I don't know,

675
00:47:13.480 --> 00:47:15.800
you know, doing the job which
was supposed to be to represent you know,

676
00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:19.840
we the people. But anyway,
you know, I know that's an

677
00:47:19.840 --> 00:47:22.119
antiquated idea. It depends on the
mood. Like you know, I have

678
00:47:22.239 --> 00:47:25.639
had thoughts. There's this idea of
accelerationism, so hey, I'll just go

679
00:47:25.920 --> 00:47:30.920
vote for Biden. Let's accelerate the
decline or you know. RFK Junior to

680
00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:35.079
me seemed to be the most interesting
because he was the most outspoken when it

681
00:47:35.119 --> 00:47:38.840
came to the deep state. Then
you see his position on Israel. But

682
00:47:38.960 --> 00:47:43.920
I've just kind of after COVID,
I've just I've got no faith whatsoever in

683
00:47:44.280 --> 00:47:47.920
voting. After all of our governments
acted in unison across the planet. I've

684
00:47:47.960 --> 00:47:52.280
got three governments, right, I've
got three passports, three citizenships. They

685
00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:55.360
all did what the global government wanted
them to do. Right, the who

686
00:47:55.519 --> 00:47:59.840
the un and so, and I
actually live in a smart city here in

687
00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:06.199
Mexico, and so the governor here
is implementing all of these transnational corporate globalists

688
00:48:07.199 --> 00:48:09.320
projects. Here, they're trying to
get rid of cash, they're trying to

689
00:48:09.320 --> 00:48:14.639
take away our cars, so on
and so forth, and so at this

690
00:48:14.840 --> 00:48:19.039
juncture, I'm like, yeah,
voting it's not really working. Yeah,

691
00:48:19.079 --> 00:48:21.039
I mean, you know, look, if you think it'll work, and

692
00:48:21.159 --> 00:48:22.639
vote harder, I guess. I
mean, what can I tell you?

693
00:48:23.079 --> 00:48:27.760
It is strange though, to observe
that there was And that's the thing that

694
00:48:28.360 --> 00:48:30.960
is always the big trouble sign is
when you see them all line up in

695
00:48:31.000 --> 00:48:35.639
one direction. That's when you got
to worry, because that's really the agenda.

696
00:48:35.719 --> 00:48:37.960
You know. The things they argue
over are meant to keep us busy,

697
00:48:39.159 --> 00:48:43.400
you know, one way or another, and usually it doesn't accomplish much.

698
00:48:43.480 --> 00:48:46.679
Like I brought up about the immigration
issue, right, that's something that's

699
00:48:46.679 --> 00:48:50.679
been going on my entire life.
I was born in seventy two, so

700
00:48:51.159 --> 00:48:54.440
you know, I'm just over fifty
years old, and hello, this has

701
00:48:54.480 --> 00:48:58.320
been going on this whole time.
You mean to tell me nobody could have

702
00:48:58.320 --> 00:49:00.800
figured out it's the Southern border.
And oh, by the way, you

703
00:49:00.800 --> 00:49:04.800
know, I always find it interesting
that they would have to send Iranians in

704
00:49:05.000 --> 00:49:08.400
through the southern border when considering we've
got almost no security on our northern border.

705
00:49:09.079 --> 00:49:12.599
I mean, how hard is it
to get these guys through Canada?

706
00:49:12.679 --> 00:49:15.519
Probably not that difficult, you know. Yeah, as you said, I've

707
00:49:15.519 --> 00:49:21.440
talked to Mexicans here and it's just
I was kind of I was kind of

708
00:49:21.480 --> 00:49:24.800
surprised how it's just as you said, it's been going on since forever,

709
00:49:24.880 --> 00:49:28.320
the border thing. Although I think
there's a second point here, but the

710
00:49:28.320 --> 00:49:31.559
first point is that it's always been
easy to jump the border. I've had

711
00:49:31.800 --> 00:49:36.000
guys remodeling my house here. Tell
me, oh yeah, you know,

712
00:49:36.280 --> 00:49:38.239
five, ten, fifteen, twenty
years ago, I was working in the

713
00:49:38.360 --> 00:49:43.079
US and they just paid the coyotes
to get them over. And it's like,

714
00:49:43.679 --> 00:49:45.679
yeah, you know, I was
in the US last year when a

715
00:49:45.719 --> 00:49:49.519
number of times and the uber Yeah, I can't tell you how many taxi

716
00:49:49.599 --> 00:49:52.119
drivers, some of them don't even
speak English. I'm speaking to them in

717
00:49:52.119 --> 00:49:53.320
Spanish and they're like, oh,
yeah, I just paid the coyote they

718
00:49:53.360 --> 00:49:58.519
brought me over. I'm here illegally. My sister's coming next week through a

719
00:49:58.599 --> 00:50:00.519
coyote, and it's like that's go
going on. Although I think the second

720
00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:07.199
point is it's intensified now because I
do think this has it. It's being

721
00:50:07.239 --> 00:50:10.400
weaponized. So what's happening now is
like on the military level where this is

722
00:50:10.400 --> 00:50:14.559
now an assault on the United States
and Europe. It's by the globalists,

723
00:50:14.760 --> 00:50:19.960
and I feel like they want to
break down the Western world and the Western

724
00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:23.400
standard of living, erase the middle
class, bring in the neo feudalism,

725
00:50:24.400 --> 00:50:29.840
maybe balkanize the US, bring about
some sort of civil war. They don't

726
00:50:29.880 --> 00:50:34.440
want there to be on the planet
any you know, strong political, economic,

727
00:50:34.960 --> 00:50:38.320
sovereign entity, because again they're trying
to prepare US for world government.

728
00:50:38.360 --> 00:50:42.119
And I've talked to a number of
people who are down in Panama and others

729
00:50:42.159 --> 00:50:46.599
who you can see the un all
these NGOs are are financing and directing this

730
00:50:46.679 --> 00:50:50.639
migrant wave. And I would agree
with you. You know, I listened

731
00:50:50.639 --> 00:50:52.880
to Lewis Chaparo. He's a great
journalist. He did a great interview recently.

732
00:50:52.920 --> 00:50:55.320
He says it's not that microans are
not bringing in the drugs, you

733
00:50:55.320 --> 00:51:00.599
know, they're just looking for a
better living standard. So they're just they're

734
00:51:00.639 --> 00:51:04.000
just pawns in this game. But
it's it's the globalists who want to flood

735
00:51:04.719 --> 00:51:08.039
the West. And then you know, bricks and multipolarity the other side of

736
00:51:08.039 --> 00:51:13.639
that coin. I don't really believe
bricks is any real alternative. So to

737
00:51:13.679 --> 00:51:17.719
have a world government, you have
to have sort of like an even even

738
00:51:17.840 --> 00:51:23.119
economic how'd you say plane, And
so they're lowering the weast west, so

739
00:51:23.159 --> 00:51:28.239
the global south and the East can
rise a bit, and that sort of

740
00:51:28.239 --> 00:51:31.559
gives the foundation for global governance.
You know, you might. I don't

741
00:51:31.599 --> 00:51:35.440
know if you ever talked to him, but there's a journalist named Addie Adds

742
00:51:35.480 --> 00:51:39.000
out there. He's an interesting guy. He might give you some interesting perspectives

743
00:51:39.000 --> 00:51:42.400
on some of this stuff if you
ever want to, you ever need a

744
00:51:42.400 --> 00:51:45.519
guy for your show, I'm telling
you he might be a good one to

745
00:51:45.599 --> 00:51:49.679
bring on a little little to the
right of me in my opinion, But

746
00:51:50.119 --> 00:51:52.800
I love Addie. He's a young
guy. He's actually stopped by my home

747
00:51:52.840 --> 00:51:55.400
when he's been on his way through
Georgia taking a look at the different election

748
00:51:55.519 --> 00:52:00.559
frauds and things, which is interesting. But I take it from both sides.

749
00:52:00.599 --> 00:52:02.480
I mean, you know, I've
had Greg Palace on this show and

750
00:52:02.599 --> 00:52:07.119
him as both of them trying to
describe to me what the election fraud is

751
00:52:07.119 --> 00:52:10.840
in Georgia, which is where I
live now in Georgia, and it's too

752
00:52:10.840 --> 00:52:15.719
funny to me because this state is
run top to bottom by the Republicans,

753
00:52:15.239 --> 00:52:19.719
And it's so funny because people keep
talking about how you know there was election

754
00:52:19.840 --> 00:52:22.360
fraud here, and it's hilarious because
it's like, yeah, of course there

755
00:52:22.440 --> 00:52:27.239
was. But here's the thing.
Both sides of the equation are competing for

756
00:52:27.360 --> 00:52:30.000
how to steal it, and nobody
wants a real investigation because the second you

757
00:52:30.039 --> 00:52:35.639
do that, you find that everybody
has their hands dirty. So of course

758
00:52:35.639 --> 00:52:37.920
there's no real investigation. Of course, that's the way it is. But

759
00:52:38.079 --> 00:52:40.719
it's so funny to watch people twist
it to sort of, you know,

760
00:52:42.039 --> 00:52:45.960
adhere to their political narrative one way
or another. And meanwhile, it's pretty

761
00:52:45.960 --> 00:52:50.159
simple and easy to see if you
live here. But I love bringing both

762
00:52:50.199 --> 00:52:52.239
of those people on. Maybe I
got to get Greg back on the show

763
00:52:52.280 --> 00:52:55.199
again. And Attie by the way, but look, I'm gonna let you

764
00:52:55.239 --> 00:52:59.599
go because in a very short time
you'll be live on TNT. Actually,

765
00:53:00.039 --> 00:53:02.280
so if people are hearing us live
on Ocelli dot com Radio. You'll be

766
00:53:02.320 --> 00:53:07.440
able to go over to TNT Radio
and go hear our friend live. What

767
00:53:07.480 --> 00:53:09.920
do you got coming up today?
And if you wouldn't mind, but when

768
00:53:09.920 --> 00:53:12.880
you're on your way out the door
here, because I'm going to get you

769
00:53:12.920 --> 00:53:15.920
out of here, if you wouldn't
mind give me a couple of links that

770
00:53:15.960 --> 00:53:17.760
I can put in with the show
notes, because I'd like to refer people

771
00:53:17.760 --> 00:53:22.039
to your website, your podcast,
your show on TNT, everything. If

772
00:53:22.079 --> 00:53:25.440
you could drop some links into the
skype chat here and I'll make sure to

773
00:53:25.480 --> 00:53:30.000
cut and paste them and throw them
onto my podcast. What little help I

774
00:53:30.039 --> 00:53:32.800
can give you there, get a
few new ears on what it is you're

775
00:53:32.840 --> 00:53:37.480
doing, because you're a really intelligent
guy. I'm not always, you know,

776
00:53:37.480 --> 00:53:40.000
one of these people who bows to
people who have academic credentials because I've

777
00:53:40.039 --> 00:53:45.920
got none, and I find that
some people are more locked into stupidity that

778
00:53:45.960 --> 00:53:50.000
way, But you're not. You're
somebody who's, you know, openly and

779
00:53:50.159 --> 00:53:54.280
intellectually examining these things and from a
from a unique perspective. I can definitely

780
00:53:54.280 --> 00:53:58.920
tell that by the sample that I've
taken from you here today. So I

781
00:53:58.960 --> 00:54:00.440
really appreciate you taking time, and
I know you have a show to do,

782
00:54:00.559 --> 00:54:06.320
so tell people where they can find
you and where you want them to

783
00:54:06.360 --> 00:54:08.159
find you, and the stuff you've
done. Anything you want, please,

784
00:54:09.079 --> 00:54:14.119
Yeah, just the website geopolitics and
Empire dot com. And then you know,

785
00:54:14.159 --> 00:54:15.480
I've had trouble. I'm still on
YouTube, but I've had trouble.

786
00:54:16.280 --> 00:54:22.760
I forgot to mention in twenty twenty
two, the Department of Homeland Security banned

787
00:54:22.800 --> 00:54:27.880
me from PayPal and so, and
I had Matt Taibi and Kim Iverson actually

788
00:54:27.880 --> 00:54:31.320
cover my deplatforming and so and I'm
off of Patreon as well. But the

789
00:54:31.440 --> 00:54:36.480
Geopolitics nampart dot com. I'm most
active on my Twitter there and on my

790
00:54:36.519 --> 00:54:40.559
Telegram there's thirteen thousand followers and so
I'm always curating the news there and posting

791
00:54:40.559 --> 00:54:45.719
my stuff. And then TENG Radio
dot Live. Yeah, I got two

792
00:54:45.800 --> 00:54:49.480
guests coming up, so it's just
every day you just never know who you're

793
00:54:49.480 --> 00:54:52.000
going to get as a guest and
so and then I'll be at the Greater

794
00:54:52.079 --> 00:54:58.639
Reset tomorrow. It's a five day
conference that takes place during Davos. We

795
00:54:58.679 --> 00:55:02.199
are like the anti dallosin so I'll
be reporting from there as well, doing

796
00:55:02.199 --> 00:55:06.760
my show on the ground, and
I'm always happy to chat with the people.

797
00:55:06.800 --> 00:55:10.199
They can message me through the different
avenues. And on that academia,

798
00:55:10.280 --> 00:55:14.920
I forgot to mention that you brought
that up earlier. I don't know if

799
00:55:14.960 --> 00:55:16.880
I could be successful in academia.
Even here in Mexico. They took away

800
00:55:16.920 --> 00:55:22.079
for two semesters my university courses because
I was being politically incorrect. And this

801
00:55:22.320 --> 00:55:28.639
institutions is very globalist, and so
if I could help it, I would

802
00:55:28.679 --> 00:55:34.320
prefer not to go back to academia
if it's possible. So I'm I'm able

803
00:55:34.360 --> 00:55:37.960
to podcast and radio broadcasts. Now
there's no telling of that I'll ever change

804
00:55:37.960 --> 00:55:42.079
and I might have to go look
for a teaching job, but yeah,

805
00:55:42.119 --> 00:55:45.480
it's not good to stay academia.
And thank you Chuck for having me on

806
00:55:45.800 --> 00:55:50.679
No and look, and I appreciate
you fielding my questions a couple of them,

807
00:55:50.719 --> 00:55:53.719
probably a little uncomfortable and whatnot,
but hey, look, we have

808
00:55:53.840 --> 00:55:58.920
to ask uncomfortable questions if we're going
to solve uncomfortable problems, you know what

809
00:55:58.960 --> 00:56:01.360
I mean. And I love getting
a sampling from a from a guy like

810
00:56:01.400 --> 00:56:04.960
you. I hope that you and
I will have some conversations in the future.

811
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But once again, yeah, I
want people to go to the websites

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and uh and check out your stuff, go listen to the show on TNT

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Radio. I know they have an
archive over there of your show, so

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they can catch some past broadcasts,
but you'll be able to catch them live

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in about say, twelve minutes from
now. So I'm gonna let you go,

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but do me a favorite, like
I said again, and just throw

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some uh, you know, throw
some links into the into the chat here

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on Skype that we're talking through right
now, and uh, and I'll definitely

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publish them along with this podcast because
I want people to go check you out.

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And there are ways to support you
though, even though they took away

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PayPal, right, yeah, I
still have donor box which uses stripe buy

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me a coffee and and and and
that that all is still there, or

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substack I've got. I already sent
the links to you and so people can

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become a paid subscriber on substack to
support me. Excellent, Yeah, excellent,

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and yeah, do check out a
substack. I went over there,

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took a look at some stuff under
my h under my Pseudon, But I'm

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gonna go sign up also over on
the substack and buy me a coffee works

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whatever you can do. I think
guys like this needs support. And uh,

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you know, look again, I'm
not holding it against him that he's

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with a company that fired me.
I don't mind that. We need intelligent

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voices, we need independent thinkers because
this is the only way we're going to

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get out of here. It's going
to require innovation to get to revelation.

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And uh, that's why we have
the conversations. Anyway. I'm merely o'celly

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enough. Maybe you're thinking about getting
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Michael Swanson, the brilliant author of
the War State, understood these trends

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professionally for many years, and now
he gives you the benefit of his knowledge.

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Wall Street Street Window Dott. Go
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now go there. Now what the
dynamics of a crop? How do you

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move in mob? How do you
expect them? How do you make them

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feel? Is one with you?
I'll join them first join this when you

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speak to them, speak to them
as if you were a member of them

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all. Speak to them in their
language, their hate, if they are

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poor, talking to them if they're
afraid, talk to them of their feelings.

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If they are angry, give them
objects for the anger. But most

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of all, the thing that is
most of the essence is that you make

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this man an extension of yourself?
What are the dynamics of a crow?

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How do you move a mar How
do you excited? How do you make

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them feel? Is wroth with you? Join the first this when you speak

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to them, speak to them as
if you were a member of the mouth.

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Speak to them in their language and
their livel make their hate y.

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If they are poor, talk to
them of poverty, If they are afraid,

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talk to them, believe you are
angry, give them objects for the

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anger. And most of all,
for that is most of is that you

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make this an extension makes a moth? What are the dynamics of a crow?

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How do you move? Excite?
That everything is as added as it

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seems. Go ahead the truth about
the Jafa assassination? Right, well,

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what do you want to know?
Judy Baker's wild claim Oswald girlfriends he knew

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Ruby and Barrie answer weapons. Really, I imagine I could claim I have

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four wheels. It doesn't make me
a wagon. But okay, Oswald was

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on the building and I'm trying to
prevent the murder of John Kennedy. Come

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on now, has a real effort
on the Dafay assassination. Book into Claim.

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Go to Amazon dot com enter Judith
Baker in her own words. You'll

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get the results for a digital copy
of a book where Walt Brown utilizes her

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own words and the known evidence in
the case to get at well a different

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perspective. Let's say you can get
Judith Barry Baker in her own words from

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the author himself, signed if you
request it by contacting doctor Brown at k

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I A S JFK at aol dot
com. It's a fun book and it

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actually dissects the many men any fantastic
claims. Judith Bary Baker in her own

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words, thank you for all the
great information in Denial The Secret Wars with

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air Strikes and Tanks by