1 00:00:03,839 --> 00:00:12,919 Welcome to Fantasy Hockey Life, presented by fan Tracks. Here's your source of 2 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:17,079 information and analysis to help you win your fantasy hockey league. Block off hot 3 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:23,359 a step hit on staylock block. Here's your hosts, Jesse Sevier and Victor 4 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:30,559 Nunho Fantasy Hockey Live Backward Again. Jesse Vicpeer Fan Tracks, Victor Nunho ep 5 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:36,200 Ringside. Victor h I'm doing awesome, Jesse. It has been a fun 6 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,119 couple of weeks. I think we've both been traveling. It's nice to be 7 00:00:39,799 --> 00:00:43,560 back in studio so to speak with you and yeah, how are you doing. 8 00:00:44,119 --> 00:00:47,520 I'm doing great. I'm doing great. I'm ready to get back to 9 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,359 a little bit of fantasy hockey talk. I've been missing it. I got 10 00:00:50,359 --> 00:00:55,920 to edit you and some of our great listeners last week talking some fantasy hockey, 11 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,159 but it's just not the same. I don't know, Victor. How's 12 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,359 the season going for you so far? It's going pretty well. There's definitely 13 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,439 some of the leagues that I'm in are not going as well, but for 14 00:01:04,439 --> 00:01:07,239 the most part, most of them are going pretty well. It's just a 15 00:01:07,239 --> 00:01:14,040 matter of getting back in the swing and some surprises obviously, and some disappointing 16 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,920 starts and all that, but that's common usually, trying to not overreact to 17 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:23,920 early season shenanigans as per usual. How about yours. I'm doing good. 18 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:27,400 Yeah, No, I'm doing good in the sense of I'm happy. My 19 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:32,280 fantasy hockey teams are working on it. They're working their way up. But 20 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:36,879 yeah, I can't complain too much. Decent results so far, and it's 21 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:38,879 just been it's been pretty fun. The fantasy hockey season so far has been 22 00:01:38,879 --> 00:01:44,840 pretty fun. The NHL season so far has been pretty fun. You know 23 00:01:44,879 --> 00:01:48,359 what, Victor, There's only one way to enjoy that fun to the fullest. 24 00:01:49,239 --> 00:01:53,680 And I think what it is it's showing up in our discord because there 25 00:01:53,719 --> 00:01:57,359 are people always chatting a little bit of fantasy hockey over there, always lots 26 00:01:57,359 --> 00:02:01,719 of topics on their mind, always onions on trades, on players, on 27 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,920 all those types of things. And you can get in absolutely free. All 28 00:02:05,959 --> 00:02:07,479 you have to do is let Victor and I know you want to be in. 29 00:02:07,639 --> 00:02:10,680 We'll give you a link. You'll be in. That's it, and 30 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:15,520 you can contact us on x fan Hockey Life Victor nan your twelve, or 31 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:22,159 email us Fantasy Hockey Life at gmail dot com. Victor, what's popping in 32 00:02:22,159 --> 00:02:24,439 the what's popping in the Discord is anything you've if you noticed anything in the 33 00:02:24,479 --> 00:02:29,960 Discord lately of great comment? Have there been great controversies I should be aware 34 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,759 of. No, I don't know that there are any controversies, but there 35 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:37,479 there have been some, yeah, interesting discussions. We have our our tiered 36 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:42,280 Dynasty League, and so people, some new players are posing some questions in 37 00:02:42,319 --> 00:02:46,520 there just about how the league and the format, and we have some other 38 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:50,919 questions just about some interesting trades and what's going on in the league, advice 39 00:02:51,039 --> 00:02:53,560 and and what's going on with this guy. So all those kinds of things 40 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:57,560 tend to be happening, and so it's been a good time within nothing that 41 00:02:57,599 --> 00:03:00,280 I've seen that's been too crazy. Of course, I have been traveled a 42 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:04,039 lot, so it has been hard to keep up lately. Yeah, yeah, 43 00:03:04,159 --> 00:03:07,159 it's The Discord is not just me and Victor standing on a soapbox. 44 00:03:07,199 --> 00:03:09,800 If you thought that's what it was. It's not like an eternal AMA. 45 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:15,319 It's a community of fantasy hockey fans and there are some main characters in there, 46 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:21,240 and you'll enjoy chatting with them. Victor. There's more. Just wait 47 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,120 there's more things people can do, and that includes the Patreon. Tell people 48 00:03:23,159 --> 00:03:28,520 what the Patreon is. Yeah, if you enjoy the show and you want 49 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,599 to give us a thanks or support or get some extra content, then that's 50 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:35,639 a good place for you to check out. And through the Patreon you can 51 00:03:36,199 --> 00:03:40,879 play in the Tier dynasty. You can get access to Patreon casts and extra 52 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:46,879 content, extra access to things like the Patroon Priority channel and prospect Ranks and 53 00:03:47,159 --> 00:03:52,159 all kinds of other cool things. So definitely want to check that out if 54 00:03:52,199 --> 00:03:57,520 you're interested in a little bit extra or potentially just helping us out a bit, 55 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,599 because it does cost a lot to subscribe to a lot of the different 56 00:04:00,639 --> 00:04:03,479 things that we do, so you could do that over at patreon dot com 57 00:04:03,479 --> 00:04:10,280 slash Fantasy Hockey, Life, Matter Fact. Today's episode kind of builds on 58 00:04:10,319 --> 00:04:13,360 some things that you could get if you wanted to join the Patreon tour, 59 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:19,160 and that is Victor does an amazing job and we get help also from our 60 00:04:19,199 --> 00:04:23,839 patrons, which one of our patrons helps us out with that. I believe 61 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:29,439 that is Jason working on the prospect ranks. And there are reactions going to 62 00:04:29,519 --> 00:04:34,920 be talking about on this episode to Victor's extensive prospect rankings that go on down 63 00:04:34,959 --> 00:04:40,720 there. So that is the topic of our show. David san Lui is 64 00:04:40,759 --> 00:04:44,639 going to be on and we're going to talk some prospects and some differences of 65 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,720 opinion. It's all about conflict, Victor. You got to sell the conflict 66 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,680 on discord. You got to sell the conflict on the episode. Everybody knows 67 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:55,839 that's the only reason people listen to fantasy hockey podcasts. Yes, that's obviously 68 00:04:55,959 --> 00:05:00,639 the only reason, not for any kind of help or suggest are a good 69 00:05:00,639 --> 00:05:03,079 time. It's just all the conflict. Yeah, yeah, people. If 70 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,639 it bleeds, it leads. The truth is it's not going to bleed, 71 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:16,199 it is going to lead. Freda very pleased to have on the show, 72 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:20,800 a guy who does some arrieting over EP ringside Victor's colleagues. There. It 73 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:25,720 is David san Lui talking a little bit of hockey prospects. David, how 74 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:30,959 you doing today. I'm great, you good good. I'm ready to hear 75 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:34,079 some of the opinions because what we're doing today, folks. Just to queue 76 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:39,560 it up, is Victor and David have slightly different takes on some of these 77 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:44,000 guys, or at least would rank them higher. Or lower among prospects throughout 78 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,639 there. So we're going to allow them both to have their words on some 79 00:05:47,759 --> 00:05:51,519 of these players and maybe compare and contrast. And how about that, David, 80 00:05:53,639 --> 00:05:56,959 how you enjoying the season so far? I guess I should say too, 81 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,000 it's been really great. I follow that draft mostly, and it's been 82 00:06:00,079 --> 00:06:04,079 a really interesting draft. Not as good as the twenty twenty three Peter Salon 83 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:08,240 with Connor Bedr, the Mishkov and all those players, but it's been really 84 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,959 interesting to follow. And I've been following some of these prospects on the college 85 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,959 shide, on the NDCCHL and over in European Leagues two and some of the 86 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,439 NHL, so I tried to spend my time as much as I can. 87 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:24,639 But yeah, it's been really fun. Honestly, today is somewhat more about 88 00:06:24,759 --> 00:06:28,199 already drafted guys and guys who are already in systems, and then, yeah, 89 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,959 that draft coming up. I'm looking forward to a lot of the draft 90 00:06:30,959 --> 00:06:33,480 coverage, getting near takes and reading them on EP rings side as well. 91 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:39,680 But let's go and talk about some of the guys who it sounds like you 92 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:44,199 might be a little bit higher on than our co host Victor Ninho, and 93 00:06:44,519 --> 00:06:46,879 that is going to start with Frank Bizarre, the third a center right winger 94 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:51,079 from the Chicago Blackhawks. Victor ranks him thirty fifth among forwards. He's a 95 00:06:51,079 --> 00:06:56,720 point per game over the first ten games at the University of Michigan so far 96 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:00,040 this year. But you like him even better than maybe the thirty fifth past 97 00:07:00,079 --> 00:07:05,360 forward. Tell us your take on mister Bizarre and why he's a high rated 98 00:07:05,399 --> 00:07:09,959 prospect in your opinion, David, Yeah, we really liked him in his 99 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,519 draft here, Frank, we gave him the highest upside in the draft. 100 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,439 Maybe that was a mistake from what persting from him so far, but he's 101 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:20,680 been injured life over the past a season. He hasn't really in the previous 102 00:07:20,759 --> 00:07:24,240 year he was had I think he had a shoulder injury or something, and 103 00:07:24,279 --> 00:07:27,120 he didn't play for most of the year. He only had thirteen games at 104 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,680 the end of the year, and he wasn't really himself. And I think 105 00:07:29,879 --> 00:07:32,000 this is really his freshman year in college, so he's starting to come into 106 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,560 his own and were starting to see the skill and the energy that he displayed 107 00:07:35,839 --> 00:07:39,800 in his draft year. So I think there's a high upside with him. 108 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:44,160 There's certainty of him reaching it, and the point production it's not as as 109 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,480 certain as a player like Logan Cooley, with whom he played in his draft 110 00:07:47,519 --> 00:07:50,600 here. But I think if he really figures it out this season, he 111 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:55,279 could be a high upside guy for Chicago and they have spots for him in 112 00:07:55,319 --> 00:07:58,240 the lineup, and I think he's going to play maybe this season, maybe 113 00:07:58,279 --> 00:08:01,759 the season, maybe the next one. In collegeend Dow he's probably going to 114 00:08:01,879 --> 00:08:05,199 get a tryout in the team stops six because he has that kind of energy 115 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,160 to speed and they really want to play with speed in that team and he 116 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,000 really has it. So I think he's going to enter a top six spot 117 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:16,319 for them at some point, and he has the point production potential, maybe 118 00:08:16,319 --> 00:08:20,399 not point per game, but like up there still. Yeah. Part of 119 00:08:20,439 --> 00:08:22,279 the reason why he's a little bit lower is, as you mentioned, he 120 00:08:22,319 --> 00:08:26,759 missed that whole basically that whole year, and coming back when the team is 121 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,639 pushing, went to the frozen four at the speed and the pace, it 122 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:35,759 was a little hard and because of that, his some of his statistical profiles 123 00:08:35,759 --> 00:08:39,039 and projections point wise are just a little lower because he didn't have as much 124 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:43,559 to go on a lot of his like Hockey Prospecting and even RP Ringside colleague 125 00:08:43,639 --> 00:08:46,639 J Fresh has him at just five percent chance of being an NHL R right 126 00:08:46,639 --> 00:08:52,000 now, which I think is insanely low, and also his star potential being 127 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,279 very low. So I think that he's, like you said, he's probably 128 00:08:54,279 --> 00:08:56,759 going to show who he really is this year, but he is a little 129 00:08:56,799 --> 00:09:01,279 bit behind in terms of his development, and that's always hard to gauge because 130 00:09:01,279 --> 00:09:03,919 everyone develops differently. So I still think the upside is really high there. 131 00:09:03,919 --> 00:09:07,039 But yeah, he's gonna he has a ways to go, I think, 132 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:11,879 Yeah, I agree with this, and it's really I think the other issue 133 00:09:11,879 --> 00:09:15,720 attends that he might be more prone to injury than other players with his style 134 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,120 of player, Like he's smaller, but he's very physical and he had text 135 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:22,240 insight all the time, so he might accumulate those injuries really his career, 136 00:09:22,279 --> 00:09:26,279 and it might really the lights development and then maybe seven stunted at some point. 137 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:31,080 So there's a higher risk with him, but I think the upside may 138 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,720 be a bit harder than where you have him, not too much though. 139 00:09:33,639 --> 00:09:37,840 Matthew Coronado, a winger for the Calgary Flames, Victor likes him as his 140 00:09:37,919 --> 00:09:43,080 twenty sixth best forward prospect. He's already got ten games in the NHL so 141 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,200 far this year. He's across town in the AHL now, and of course 142 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:50,240 he's not an entry level side guy, so ten games is not a problem. 143 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:54,720 But why do you like Matt Coronado even better than the twenty six best 144 00:09:54,759 --> 00:09:58,399 forward David Surely the development career, because we had this guy pretty low when 145 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:03,639 his drafted to where he was drafted by Calgary, and he just kept improving 146 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:07,679 every year. Harvard is a pretty good development system, and he was smoothly 147 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:09,840 a guy who in his draft here would skate down the wing and shoot on 148 00:10:09,879 --> 00:10:13,600 that he would do everything himself. He learned to use his teammates in college, 149 00:10:13,639 --> 00:10:16,200 became a much better pointmaker, and then in pre season with Calgary he 150 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:20,559 look really good, like with his line mates, it's pre season, and 151 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:24,600 then the issue is that Calgary right now has a lot of issue with their 152 00:10:24,639 --> 00:10:26,840 teams, so it doesn't really looks super good. He has only two points 153 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,879 in ten games, but I think for the future this is someone who can 154 00:10:30,879 --> 00:10:33,720 play with anyone in the lineup like he has those complimentary skills. He works 155 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:37,600 hard, his defensive game is improving and he has that kind of energy that 156 00:10:37,879 --> 00:10:41,960 coaches usually love, so I think he's going to get his chances. And 157 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:45,480 these are two developed forward so he can score, he can make poys. 158 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,039 The speed isn't up there. Like Frank Nazarda, which just talked about, 159 00:10:48,159 --> 00:10:52,679 I'm not sure if he's going to again. These are not future certain first 160 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,320 liner, but they have those complimentary skills that should make them play in the 161 00:10:56,360 --> 00:11:01,879 top six and produce alongside the right player. Good environment, and the issue 162 00:11:01,919 --> 00:11:05,480 I think is that Calgary right now is very uncertain. So we all know 163 00:11:05,519 --> 00:11:09,240 about this season, how he's going to apply. I think over multiple season 164 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:13,240 he's going to get up there. Yeah, Calgary having some issues, of 165 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:18,600 course, a bit of an understatement. They're struggling. And it's funny. 166 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:22,240 I was listening on Twitter. Watching on Twitter. Someone was asking who are 167 00:11:22,279 --> 00:11:26,080 the best players in Calgary right now, and all the Calgary fans were just 168 00:11:26,159 --> 00:11:31,320 naming all the prospects, right, we just want Wolf and Cornado and Zara's 169 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:35,960 looking really good, so I think that says a lot about what's going on. 170 00:11:37,039 --> 00:11:39,799 And every time I watch him, he just looks so good. He's 171 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:45,600 got that motor that's really high and he's got the shot. So I've always 172 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,679 really liked him, especially in his draft year, had him a little bit 173 00:11:48,759 --> 00:11:52,919 higher, and his production has always been on the high side. I think 174 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:54,840 that what you pointed out at the end there is the question is he a 175 00:11:54,879 --> 00:11:58,639 for sure top liner or is he just more of a top sixer? Is 176 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,480 he that complimentary piece? And then you start to wonder a little bit about 177 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:03,919 what Calgary is going to look like when he's full time, Like he might 178 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:09,720 be the centerpiece, and that's not ideal, Like he'll be great if he 179 00:12:09,799 --> 00:12:13,720 has other really talented players around him. Obviously everybody wants that right, So 180 00:12:13,159 --> 00:12:16,080 that's a slight concern for me too, But I really like the player a 181 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:22,919 lot, very good On back to the Blackhawks, Oliver More. Victor likes 182 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:26,840 him as his forty seventh best forward. He's a golden golfer up in Minnesota 183 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:31,200 this year, the other top pick for the Blackhawks last year middle first rounder, 184 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:35,480 has seven points in eight games, so he's already doing pretty well for 185 00:12:35,519 --> 00:12:39,480 himself. And the NCAA tell us about Oliver More and how you look at 186 00:12:39,519 --> 00:12:43,879 him as is perhaps even being better than where Victor's ranking him. David, 187 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:50,039 Yeah, that's not under player where I think in two years, like he's 188 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,519 going to have some spots in the lineup two and he fits Chicago's new identity 189 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:56,440 of all speed. You know, He's wanted the fastest players in the world, 190 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,320 like I'm not the stalking in college or anything like, even compared to 191 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:03,120 mill Sanchev. He would be them in straight races and even in terms of 192 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:07,519 agility, like he's an excellent skater. In terms of point upside, it 193 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:11,200 really depends who he plays with more than other players, and I think it's 194 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,720 a team with all the players we talked about. Production in general is really 195 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:18,559 dependent on context and who you play with and when you're not a true play 196 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,639 driver. Because he has those playmaking skills, but they are not like high 197 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:26,360 level, they're just really good distinction here. So if he gets a top 198 00:13:26,399 --> 00:13:28,120 six spot and he has the right players around him, I think he could 199 00:13:28,159 --> 00:13:31,039 produce a lot of points still because he has that speed, because he has 200 00:13:31,039 --> 00:13:35,960 that skills too. But I think Victor has him in the right spot off 201 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:39,279 and rights. But I would maybe bump him like ten spots out or something 202 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,759 like this because of the space he's going to have in that team and because 203 00:13:41,799 --> 00:13:46,279 I think he was overlooked by some teams at the draft too, that they 204 00:13:46,279 --> 00:13:48,600 thought he was mostly a speed stirred and have as much hockey since we really 205 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:52,440 disagree with that hockey sence assessment in the sense that I think he has those 206 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:56,840 playmaking skills. There's just not elite maybe, but they're still good enough to 207 00:13:56,919 --> 00:14:01,399 produce like sixty points sixty five five points, seventy points in the NHL if 208 00:14:01,399 --> 00:14:05,679 he gets the right line light still, So he's a rush game fits at 209 00:14:05,759 --> 00:14:09,399 Chicago's identity, and I think he's going to have open spots in the line 210 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:13,559 up and play with the right players too. One of the things that's interesting 211 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,200 about More is that you start to wonder, is he crearently going to be 212 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:20,679 locked as a two C playing on the same team as Connor Berdard right, 213 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:26,080 assuming Bernard stays down the middle, something what happened with David Crazy when Boston 214 00:14:26,279 --> 00:14:30,720 with behind bergeron. It's okay, he's fantastic, but he's never going to 215 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,159 be the guy, and that's part of the concern I think a little bit 216 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:37,200 with More. I also, like you said, some of the skills are 217 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,440 good, but not you know, necessarily elite. They're all just pretty well 218 00:14:39,519 --> 00:14:43,399 rounded and then the speed, So that's part of the reason to have him 219 00:14:43,399 --> 00:14:45,480 a little bit lower. But does that factor in it off for you or 220 00:14:45,519 --> 00:14:50,240 do you think he he might be like top line and Badard complimentary on the 221 00:14:50,279 --> 00:14:52,639 wing to some extent. Yeah, I think I'm not sure if he's really 222 00:14:52,639 --> 00:14:56,679 a center at the next level. Maybe he's going to be a winger. 223 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:00,159 He has that two way game and enough size to play that the in the 224 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:01,840 middle. But maybe they're going to like him on the wing of Betar that 225 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:05,240 that could happen too. And in his draft, sure he was really playing. 226 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:11,120 There was a main line with will Smith, Little Bill and Ryan Leonard 227 00:15:11,159 --> 00:15:13,759 and he was playing on the second line. So that's exactly what happened for 228 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,000 him. He was downgraded for that second second line and he didn't have a 229 00:15:16,039 --> 00:15:20,799 lot out of support. Still he still produced a lot of points by himself, 230 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,440 Like we're having really much lower quality players on his wing. So he 231 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:28,440 has that play driving ability. It's just not up to the point of Will 232 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,919 Smith. I was drafted in with the Sharks, so there are questions with 233 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:35,240 him that I think it's perfectly fair, But in terms of upside, I 234 00:15:35,279 --> 00:15:39,799 think it's a bit higher than how he's perceived around the public sphere and around 235 00:15:39,799 --> 00:15:43,720 the NHL. And I think there's a chance he plays with Bedar because of 236 00:15:43,919 --> 00:15:48,159 the kind of identity that Chicago wants to put in and because he has that 237 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:52,080 speed, has that skill, and he's very responsible to So it could help 238 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:56,000 betre perform at the center level in the Mourd NHL. We're getting away from 239 00:15:56,159 --> 00:16:00,559 like the front production, but when you have a weaker defensively, which is 240 00:16:00,679 --> 00:16:03,080 bet Are, it helps to have someone in a wing that can play to 241 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:07,720 that center role, downloaded defensive zone and have help with those responsibilities. So 242 00:16:07,759 --> 00:16:11,200 I think there's a chance like it, really it gets on the wing at 243 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:18,080 the place of Lookus raycol maybe John Jason Peterka I call him JJ. We're 244 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:21,960 that close. But he's a left winger, right winger for the Buffalo Sabers. 245 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:23,799 Victor's got him ranked fifty nine. He's spent a whole season in the 246 00:16:23,879 --> 00:16:27,279 NHL last year. Some might say calling him a prospect at this point is 247 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:32,559 rough. Victor Knight to tend to rank prospects based on a little bit more 248 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:37,639 than one season, but he has a five goal, three assist eight point 249 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:41,080 line through his first thirteen games this season, inching his way to the Casey 250 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:45,320 middle stat line in recent weeks. And of course Buffalo has got from a 251 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:51,320 recent history of their prospect starting slow and breaking out. But you think perhaps 252 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:56,279 it's even better than the fifty ninth best forward David tell us about JJ. 253 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:00,960 Yeah, he's a bit like the utter prospects we talked about, like in 254 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:04,400 the sense that I think just because the skill set again more complimentary guy, 255 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:08,279 he could rise in the lineup still, and it's all about the development curve. 256 00:17:08,319 --> 00:17:12,960 And Petracas has been really much better than other prospects drafted around him, 257 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,160 Like he just keeps getting better and he adds to his game much faster than 258 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,920 we anticipated too, especially for someone with his background, like he started in 259 00:17:21,519 --> 00:17:25,440 Germany in lower leagues, not as competitive leagues, and he's he made a 260 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,039 big jump in his draft plus one, big jump in the draft plus two, 261 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:30,799 and now he's starting to find his way in the NHL. Like he 262 00:17:30,839 --> 00:17:33,359 has ten points in fifteen games. It's a bit better of our production pace 263 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:37,400 as last year. Again we're not talking about eighty points guy, But if 264 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:41,599 he can get his way, he can find a role on the maybe first 265 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:47,440 line at some point. Second line, I think he can improve on maybe 266 00:17:47,559 --> 00:17:51,880 where you have him in terms of ranking there. But again, it's not 267 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:56,200 like the world beater here. It's just someone that keeps improving and has all 268 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,640 the right skills, and he's lopping his habits in the NHL. So I 269 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:03,000 think the ghosts are going to reward him with more ice time and more ice 270 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:07,000 time as he gets along. That's exactly one of the reasons I love him 271 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,119 so much. As you just mentioned the ice time. He's such a Swiss 272 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,039 army life or maybe he's a German army knife. No, we don't want 273 00:18:12,079 --> 00:18:15,759 to make that analogy, but he's so good in every Like when you're a 274 00:18:15,759 --> 00:18:19,640 coach you're looking down the bench and you're trying to figure out who you want 275 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,440 to put on a certain situation, it's his name is always going to pop 276 00:18:22,559 --> 00:18:25,960 up, right, Oh, let's put a jerk out there, doesn't matter 277 00:18:26,279 --> 00:18:30,200 if you're up or down. He's just he's His compete level is so high 278 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,160 and are that's part of the reason why I have him this high and maybe 279 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:37,240 even higher. I'm a little concerned about how much the points are going to 280 00:18:37,279 --> 00:18:40,160 come, but he just seems to will himself into points. Like I've seen 281 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,559 so many plays already in the NHL where he just takes over a shift. 282 00:18:42,559 --> 00:18:47,039 There was one recently where he chased down a guy and stole the puck on 283 00:18:47,079 --> 00:18:48,559 a backcheck, put it right in front someone tapped in the goal. So 284 00:18:48,759 --> 00:18:52,680 he's going to do things like that that not a lot of other players have 285 00:18:52,839 --> 00:18:56,839 the speed and smarts to do, and so some of them are going to 286 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:00,599 come. But I'm just not sure how high the upside is. But I 287 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:07,440 was looking at hockey prospecting and he has the exact statistical profile as Gratzki brand 288 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,960 Gretzky, that is, who is a total bust. So that makes me 289 00:19:11,039 --> 00:19:14,680 a little bit concerned that he's not going to have the total points upside as 290 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,400 someone else. But what, I don't know what you think about that the 291 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:22,160 statistical profile David that is quite low, which is a little bit disappointing because 292 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:23,680 then you watch him and you're like, no, this guy's definitely better than 293 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:27,359 that. So for me, it's trying to marry those two opposite To some 294 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,880 extent, Yeah, I fully agree, he's not like I've said, he's 295 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:36,519 not like that future first liner. It's just complamoratory skill set. And I 296 00:19:36,559 --> 00:19:38,880 think I keep bringing this up, but if you just look at match In 297 00:19:40,039 --> 00:19:42,240 with the Bruins this season, like he doesn't have anything special, but he 298 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,960 still found himself on the first line for some games if there's a spot open 299 00:19:47,039 --> 00:19:49,319 and you have the right habits, and that counts for a lot in terms 300 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,400 of production too, And I think that's going to be the main team of 301 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:56,480 my appearents on the podcast today. Sometimes you don't need the high level skills 302 00:19:56,559 --> 00:20:00,319 or even the history of production to really get those numbers, as long as 303 00:20:00,319 --> 00:20:03,920 there's open spots for you and you played it right whye and you have just 304 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:11,119 that extra layer of skill compared to most prospects. But that's an excellent point, 305 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:15,000 and I often will say that, and I feel like sometimes people they 306 00:20:15,079 --> 00:20:18,640 just want the guy who's putting up a lot of points. But you have 307 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,680 to remember, like you're saying, if you have the right habits, if 308 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,559 you play on the right side of the puck, if you're responsible and do 309 00:20:23,599 --> 00:20:26,240 all the things, the coach is going to put you in good spots. 310 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,319 And then if you continue to do those things, you're going to stay there 311 00:20:29,319 --> 00:20:33,960 at Lora. Like you're saying, so sometimes it's not the most exciting, 312 00:20:33,039 --> 00:20:37,799 like this guy scored so much in junior or even in the AHL, although 313 00:20:37,839 --> 00:20:41,240 that tends to be more more correlative. But you have to do all the 314 00:20:41,279 --> 00:20:45,559 other things because that the coaches are going to like it if you are just 315 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:51,480 cheating for offense and then you get scored on constantly. So that's absolutely important, 316 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:56,720 which sometimes I think us fantasy gms tend to overlook those real hockey aspects 317 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,599 of the part of it. It's doesn't have to be your main thing when 318 00:20:59,599 --> 00:21:00,720 you do it, or less or anything, but just have to keep that 319 00:21:00,759 --> 00:21:04,200 in mind. Like ECE, time matters a lot, especially for defensemen, 320 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,319 and a lot of this, like it's half the situation that you're put in 321 00:21:07,319 --> 00:21:11,799 your opportunity that matters a lot. On to Jimmy Snugger Root, a right 322 00:21:11,839 --> 00:21:15,720 winger for the Saint Louis Blues. Victor likes him as his twenty seventh best 323 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:21,880 forward. He's also up in Minnesota with the Gophers. Six goals and two 324 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:26,039 assists for eight points in his first eight games, most recently had a ten 325 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:30,680 shot game against the Louth. According to Elite Prospects, Tell me about Jimmy 326 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:36,200 snugger root and why you think he's going to be a really good prospect. 327 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,759 It's a bit like oliverur Moore. It's I guess a Blair breaking out when 328 00:21:40,799 --> 00:21:45,240 given an unfortunity because he was playing mostly as a compliantry player in his draft 329 00:21:45,319 --> 00:21:48,079 year within the USNTDP like many others. But then he went to college. 330 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:52,640 He played with Logan Cooley for a bit, so that that helped definitely in 331 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:56,400 his first year. But now he's he has to drive his line a little 332 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,000 bit more and I think he's been doing it well. I'm pretty sure as 333 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,759 a season going to remp his production is going to increase still because he has 334 00:22:02,799 --> 00:22:06,759 all the right skills except for maybe the speed he's that he can make plays. 335 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,480 He can shoot the park too. Like he has all those offensive skills, 336 00:22:10,519 --> 00:22:14,440 they're not backed up by as much mobility as more. That that said, 337 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:18,759 but it's high and in terms of an Angel caliber. So again say 338 00:22:18,799 --> 00:22:22,640 Luis is maybe in a sort of sort of a retool right now. He's 339 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:26,160 probably going to find the right spot in the lineup because he plays that kind 340 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:30,559 of style too that they like a bit of a heavier star time while still 341 00:22:30,599 --> 00:22:36,680 having that kind of skills again, maybe more not that first line playover for 342 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:41,680 sure, but definitely someone who can complement those players and still pick up points. 343 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,960 Definitely one of the players that had one of the best D plus one 344 00:22:45,039 --> 00:22:48,440 seasons, just really exploded and so you love to see that. You love 345 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:52,759 to see it continue. Although at currently a little bit lower paced than he 346 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,079 was last season, but some pieces have moved around there at University of Minnesota, 347 00:22:56,160 --> 00:23:00,960 so you understand that. But yeah, he right now now he's on 348 00:23:00,039 --> 00:23:04,720 the Jerome Againlet trajectory of kind of modest star potential in his drafts year and 349 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:10,720 then exploding to great heights. So it'll be fun to see if that continues. 350 00:23:11,079 --> 00:23:15,599 With Jimmy Snugrud, he definitely was more, yeah, just another guy 351 00:23:15,799 --> 00:23:18,920 on that NTDP and all of a sudden he's WHOA, okay this guy And 352 00:23:18,039 --> 00:23:22,359 you always wonder about that in fantasy. Do I really want to go after 353 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:23,680 this guy? Is he really going to be this good or did he just 354 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:27,319 have did everything go right in his D plus one season? And that's part 355 00:23:27,319 --> 00:23:30,119 of my ranking is I'm not one hundred percent sold that he's like a for 356 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,640 sure top line guy. I think it was great to see that increase, 357 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,799 but I still think he's probably more of a top six but not necessarily the 358 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,319 guy, but could be really good if everything works out. I think that's 359 00:23:41,319 --> 00:23:44,920 the right. That's says but thirds of your ranking, I think it's about 360 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,200 right. I just mostly wanted to talk about him because he's really interesting. 361 00:23:48,279 --> 00:23:53,400 Leo Carlson, center for the Anaheim Ducks, well known prospect, this guy 362 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,920 and the Victor's, but Victor's never been that high on him. He's got 363 00:23:59,039 --> 00:24:03,680 seven points through his first nine games as a Duck, getting a hat trick 364 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,240 in game nine. That is something that one would hope would get him that 365 00:24:07,279 --> 00:24:11,519 magic tenth game. I gotta look second in average time on ice among the 366 00:24:11,559 --> 00:24:17,480 forwards in Anaheim, so he is getting the deployment when he is out there 367 00:24:17,599 --> 00:24:21,119 and playing a major role for Anaheim. What do you think, David, 368 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:26,200 Why do you think that Leo Carlson has already shown that he's more than maybe 369 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:32,119 where we're looking at him in these rankings. It's it's been really interesting to 370 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,400 watch him because the Ducks have a special development plan for him. They're not 371 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:41,039 playing him every game, so that already affects his potential as a fantasy guy. 372 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:45,599 And I think the points overseeal how good he has been right now, 373 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,039 So I'm not arguing for my position that he has well. But he plays 374 00:24:49,039 --> 00:24:52,680 in really advantages spots right now, so he plays with Ziegres. I think 375 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,000 for most of his game he has a PP one a half wall spot, 376 00:24:56,039 --> 00:25:00,440 and he can hang under that and just put bucks in and that's how he's 377 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,599 mostly scored. Is hat trick with a great shot too, But the rest 378 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,000 it was pretty easy to play for him, and that the speed looks fine. 379 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,279 It was the main concern in this fracture. It's still below average in 380 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,599 terms of the league right now, so over a long term it's not going 381 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,680 to be an asset for him. But I don't think it's going to be 382 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:21,000 an issue either, So it maybe rejects' average. He's maybe prone to injuries. 383 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:25,559 Sometimes he doesn't look like fully himself right now. There's maybe something going 384 00:25:25,559 --> 00:25:29,119 on with him. That's maybe why they're not playing him as much. But 385 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:33,440 so he doesn't look like a fully ready NHL or. But the passing game 386 00:25:33,559 --> 00:25:36,319 is already high end for the league, so yeah, as that kind of 387 00:25:36,319 --> 00:25:40,319 potential, and he plays really good. He's really good at the net front 388 00:25:40,319 --> 00:25:42,359 position too, and then that so if you have the passing game down, 389 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,240 you can find your teammates all the time on the ice, and you get 390 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,440 those advantages spot and you can play the net front role, You're going to 391 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,400 score even in your rookie year like he's doing right now. I'm not sure 392 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:56,319 it's going to sustain that kind of production over the full season. Based on 393 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,440 how he's played in those few games, I think he has had some lucky 394 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,400 bounces. But over his full career, if the speed is fine and he 395 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,599 has that passing game and he can play a physical game and he's healthy and 396 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,240 he has those advantage of spots, like he could be that kind of play 397 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,599 dupline driver and how I have that point per game, especially if the Ducks 398 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:17,519 consider him their main center. So we'll see how he evolves. It's been 399 00:26:17,519 --> 00:26:21,759 really interesting, but he has that kind of potential I think. Yeah, 400 00:26:21,839 --> 00:26:26,359 so I definitely had will Smith ahead of him, And I'm sure that seems 401 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,079 crazy to you, David, but in fantasy, if you look at the 402 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,599 if you look at the top outcome for will Smith, he could be a 403 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,480 much higher point producer. I always knew Leo would be a better real life 404 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,720 player. I didn't know that it would translate this quickly. And I have 405 00:26:40,799 --> 00:26:45,319 to say I love the Anaheim Ducks development plan for him and the team. 406 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,799 It's brilliant. They give him plenty of time to work out and analyze how 407 00:26:48,839 --> 00:26:53,440 things are going and not burn out. It's super frustrating for fantasy because you 408 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,240 want to put him in every game because he's so good when he plays, 409 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,000 and then he's and then they're giving him days off and just like shaking your 410 00:27:00,039 --> 00:27:04,400 fist at the sky. But he is really fantastic and just goes to show 411 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:10,319 that when you're solid in every asset of the game, even if you're passing 412 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:14,200 and shot isn't elite, you put yourself in such good situations that you you 413 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,440 get more points. And I think that's a classic example for him. And 414 00:27:17,799 --> 00:27:21,599 just looking at j Fresh's card for him, he is the number four ranked 415 00:27:21,599 --> 00:27:25,720 prospect of all the prospects he tracked, and that's incredible. He tends to 416 00:27:25,759 --> 00:27:29,160 be really conservative and has him at ninety one percent chance of being a star, 417 00:27:29,319 --> 00:27:33,039 which is incredibly high. Those of who listened to this show. That 418 00:27:33,079 --> 00:27:37,400 doesn't happen. He doesn't have those high numbers almost ever, apparently really high 419 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:41,559 only with Carlson, especially because hockey prospecting is much lower down down to twenty 420 00:27:41,599 --> 00:27:45,359 percent, so it's it's pretty pretty interesting. And yeah, I definitely love 421 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,880 this player. I just was my ranking was a little bit concerned that he 422 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,319 wouldn't have the high points upside, And we still won't really know, obviously 423 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,960 for a while until he's playing consistent NHL games. But you like the trajectory 424 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,960 of the Ducks and the town that they're accumulating around him. So he's gonna 425 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,960 have plenty of really good, complimentary players to play with and he should. 426 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,240 He should be just fine, if not elite, for points as well. 427 00:28:08,279 --> 00:28:14,160 I would say at press time, we're waiting for him to get that magic 428 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:18,000 tenth game to mean that he has passed his entry level slide. But it 429 00:28:18,039 --> 00:28:22,599 looks like he's going to get that here on Sunday. Mason mctaviash, also 430 00:28:22,079 --> 00:28:26,440 centerment for the Anaheim Duck. Spector likes him about thirty eight after a forty 431 00:28:26,519 --> 00:28:30,200 three point season. He's basically a point per game this year on the second 432 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:36,599 line, centering Frank Patrono and Ryan Strom, And yeah, overall, Mason 433 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:41,079 mctabash is coming into his own in the NHL. Tell us David what you 434 00:28:41,119 --> 00:28:45,559 think of him. Yeah, I'm pretty happy about this one because I put 435 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,519 him on the list and then he scored a bunch of points, so I 436 00:28:48,599 --> 00:28:52,759 look good now. But it's just McTavish. It's always an issue of energy 437 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:57,559 with him, Like he has those stretches of games where he can do everything 438 00:28:57,599 --> 00:29:00,599 on the ice, like he has everything in skill set. He can play 439 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,000 at pace too, But it was the same thing in junior he had long 440 00:29:04,039 --> 00:29:08,480 stitches a game where he just became half as effective. Because it's not an 441 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,599 issue of work ethic or anything, but just more urgency. And I think 442 00:29:12,599 --> 00:29:18,160 this season is really playing with some more fire, so it's helping really translate 443 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:22,519 his skills to points. And I thinking to continue because again he has those 444 00:29:22,559 --> 00:29:25,960 spots open for him. He's really a player the Ducks are now relying on, 445 00:29:26,079 --> 00:29:29,279 and he can poyner than that. He can make passes as the shot 446 00:29:29,359 --> 00:29:32,279 like it's a really high end shot, and he can play that physical game. 447 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,000 He's pretty responsible defensively but when he wants to, so he should continue 448 00:29:36,039 --> 00:29:38,279 to earn minutes, and he has all those skills necessary to score. I 449 00:29:38,279 --> 00:29:41,000 think it was perfectly fine to draft him as high as they did in the 450 00:29:41,319 --> 00:29:45,240 draft here. He had a great progression the second half of it, and 451 00:29:45,279 --> 00:29:48,599 we really ranked him high because of it. It's just that he's a player 452 00:29:48,599 --> 00:29:53,640 who's who was hopefully inconsistent, but hopefully that's really the right player right now 453 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,480 that we're seeing. Yeah, I know I've gotten a lot of flak about 454 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:02,839 McTavish from certain Ducks fans. So the thing is that, yeah, that's 455 00:30:02,839 --> 00:30:04,640 always been the question is you know, we didn't see a lot from him 456 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,839 in his draft year, we saw just a snippet after that, and then 457 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,720 last year it was pretty mad. He didn't necessarily get the best deployment and 458 00:30:11,759 --> 00:30:17,240 the team wasn't necessarily so good. But yeah, now he's definitely looking like 459 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,279 it's interesting when you look at his deployment and you think, okay, that's 460 00:30:19,599 --> 00:30:23,359 not so good, but then you starting to enter the point where you're thinking, 461 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:27,160 okay, maybe he's just making Stroman Vitrano that much better because of his 462 00:30:27,279 --> 00:30:32,519 play instead of needing someone good to play with. Yeah, that's pretty fantastic, 463 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,200 and it sure seems like they're going to like him down the middle behind 464 00:30:36,519 --> 00:30:38,799 Carlson long term, and so that's a really great one. Two punch, 465 00:30:40,359 --> 00:30:42,480 and they should have some other decent wingers for him. But that's always been 466 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:47,000 my concern with mctaversh is how you know, how high can it be? 467 00:30:47,079 --> 00:30:48,599 Right now he's on a heater. I don't think this is necessarily going to 468 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:53,079 continue at this pace. He's really redlining in terms of a lot of his 469 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,680 metrics. He might be able to keep up a relatively high shooting percentage, 470 00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:00,960 maybe not fifteen, maybe yeah, somewhere in that range, and then some 471 00:31:00,039 --> 00:31:03,920 of his pdo is probably going to regress a little bit. But still he 472 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:07,839 seems like closer to seventy eighty point player than what he was last year, 473 00:31:07,839 --> 00:31:11,559 which was sub fifty. So maybe I'll bump him up a little bit. 474 00:31:11,599 --> 00:31:15,759 We'll see, okay. Moving on Ridley grieg centerman for the Ottawa Senators. 475 00:31:15,839 --> 00:31:19,920 Victor had him as ninety fifth. He has seven points in his first nine 476 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,000 games, or had seven points in his first nine games this year in the 477 00:31:23,079 --> 00:31:27,079 NHL, but now he's off to the IR with lower body injury. Seems 478 00:31:27,119 --> 00:31:32,559 to be some kind of foot ankle situation. He was among the scoring leaders 479 00:31:32,559 --> 00:31:37,440 for rookies when he went out. But Ridley Greeg is a guy who sounds 480 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,799 like you like a lot and maybe will like a lot when he comes back 481 00:31:40,839 --> 00:31:44,240 from the Nagerie David tell me about him. Yeah, it's a blur that 482 00:31:44,359 --> 00:31:47,920 we really didn't like in his draft here we ranked him super low. He 483 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,279 just brewed us strong every year since then, so I just stopped betting against 484 00:31:51,359 --> 00:31:53,640 him. That's pretty much what what's happening. And it's pretty funny that he's 485 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,559 injured right now. The issue with him, it's not funny that he's injury, 486 00:31:56,599 --> 00:32:00,480 but the issue with him is that he's always out for a reason or 487 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,880 like he's injured, he's suspended. That's might be an issue during his career. 488 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:09,160 But he has that best identity that I really likes, like he's an 489 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:13,240 identity player for them, like the way he wanted to play under the DJ 490 00:32:13,359 --> 00:32:15,440 Smith and all of this. So I think his way to continue aur a 491 00:32:15,559 --> 00:32:20,599 ece time and we really underrated his hockey sense in issued after it just kept 492 00:32:20,599 --> 00:32:23,000 improving his playmaking too. He can make some really high employees right now, 493 00:32:23,039 --> 00:32:28,440 like spin passes and fine teammates instantly after getting the puck, Like he's much 494 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,640 more than we gave him credit for. And he has that kind of energy 495 00:32:30,759 --> 00:32:36,079 and that for checking ability that I'm sure I was going to continue to really 496 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,319 like. And it's the same thing with Brady Chuck. I think that's a 497 00:32:39,359 --> 00:32:44,839 player that was really skilled, but he's also he got those opportunities and was 498 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:50,200 drafted there because he asked those he had those same that time kind of style 499 00:32:50,319 --> 00:32:53,079 that they like. And that's partly why he's been scoring so much over the 500 00:32:53,119 --> 00:32:58,240 years, because he's getting those minutes and he's playing that that brandard hockey that 501 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,200 they like. So that's always a plaus When you have the right fit inside 502 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:06,240 a team, it's usually translates to some extra production. Still because of the 503 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,000 extra minutes and all this. It's not a player I think you should beat 504 00:33:08,039 --> 00:33:13,440 against just because the amount of energy and willpower. It's not the main thing 505 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,599 you base your ranking on. But he tends to prove people wrong. Being 506 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:22,599 quite ladies, I'm with you, I did not think that highly of Craig 507 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,759 and he just yeah, he keeps doing really well. Happy for him, 508 00:33:25,799 --> 00:33:29,799 but it's also frustrating because you're like you're scratching your head like what was I 509 00:33:30,079 --> 00:33:32,640 not seeing? What was I missing? But you know, looking at his 510 00:33:32,759 --> 00:33:37,240 rampam trier or evolving hockey. His expected goals against in corsi against are literally 511 00:33:37,279 --> 00:33:42,400 like top seventy fifth percentile for the entire league, and it's okay, that's 512 00:33:42,759 --> 00:33:46,680 amazing. The other thing that's funny is that his actual goals are way higher 513 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:51,880 than his expected goals, so he I definitely is scoring more than he only 514 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,759 has two goals right now. For this season. He probably shouldn't be like 515 00:33:54,799 --> 00:33:59,000 a sixty four point pace player. I think that will probably regress a bit, 516 00:33:59,079 --> 00:34:01,920 but he will cantinue to get ice time. He will continue to get 517 00:34:02,079 --> 00:34:07,239 opportunity. It's also interesting to me he has a comp on Hockey Prospecting, 518 00:34:07,239 --> 00:34:10,880 a Vincent Trocheck, which reminds me a little bit of how he plays. 519 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,639 He's rough and tumbled, he hits, he's physical. He's decent, although 520 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,639 great, might be a better play driver than trow Check, because shrow Check, 521 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:22,199 for all that he did, he was never great at actually driving play. 522 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,239 But he was someone that coaches gave a lot of ice time too. 523 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:29,239 So I don't know any think about that camp, David, but it's interesting 524 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,440 maybe for where his points might play out too, which has been that fringe 525 00:34:32,679 --> 00:34:38,039 like sixty five to seventy or maybe sixty to seventy five range. That's probably 526 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:42,280 the high end of it. I'm not sure over all of the season's going 527 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,360 to reach that, but maybe once or twice it could happen. Again, 528 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,920 Well, when we get into that range of the ranking is more if you 529 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,679 need to add those first your team. Still he could be a good option 530 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,519 to consider, but again, not the top blind guy, just someone who 531 00:34:55,559 --> 00:35:00,000 could have a couple of seasons that are really exceed expect because of roll, 532 00:35:00,119 --> 00:35:06,679 because just pure will Honestly, this has to be a typo. David says 533 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,920 he likes William Eckland more than Victor does. The left winger for the San 534 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:15,280 Jose Sharks, a traditional Victor favorite at number twenty nine forward, he has 535 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,159 four in his first fourteen points this year. He's getting the minutes. He's 536 00:35:19,199 --> 00:35:23,559 in top three in average time on ice for a troubled San Jose Sharks team. 537 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:28,159 But tell us what you're seeing about Eckland that makes you think he could 538 00:35:28,159 --> 00:35:30,239 be the player that we were hoping he'd be coming out in the draft. 539 00:35:30,679 --> 00:35:35,159 I'm just still hoping That's what I'm doing, just crossing my fingers and keep 540 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,559 holding. Every season, I keep saying he's going to break out. I 541 00:35:37,639 --> 00:35:42,199 had him him as second or a third overall in his draft here, like 542 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:46,199 he was doing some insane things in the Swedish and the SHL, and I 543 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:52,159 thought those things would translate sooner to NHL ice. But I probably underestimated that 544 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:57,760 the size and skating combo that has been holding him back. When you're average 545 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,960 to slightly be lavige skater in the NHL and you're five foot ten five foot 546 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:06,960 eleven, it's always hard, especially when your game is based on evading opponents 547 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,559 on the boards and making plays from the wall. So he's a small player 548 00:36:08,559 --> 00:36:13,719 with a kind of power forwards style in the sense that he doesn't absorb contact, 549 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,840 but he was really good at evading it in the SHL, and we're 550 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:20,239 looking really back in This doesn't matter as much right now for his production. 551 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,480 It's just that the Sharks are horrible, right So I think the main issue 552 00:36:23,519 --> 00:36:29,840 right now is not necessarily his skills, but the environment. And he doesn't 553 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:34,079 have the kind of speed to really drive along on his own and make plays 554 00:36:34,119 --> 00:36:37,840 like others, So again it's when you need the right formation around him. 555 00:36:37,639 --> 00:36:42,719 But at some point, hopefully he's going to have those teammates that chemistry and 556 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,639 his skills are really going to shine because he doesn't have anyone to really connect 557 00:36:45,639 --> 00:36:50,800 his place with at this stage. But I'm still a believer he's in the 558 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,159 right spot. Don't push him too much on your ranking because his environment is 559 00:36:54,119 --> 00:36:59,000 is bad right now and he hasn't had the history behind him over the last 560 00:36:59,039 --> 00:37:01,360 few seasons to really jump him up. But just keep him in mind always 561 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:07,639 because he could really break out at some point. Santase Sharks are better than 562 00:37:07,639 --> 00:37:10,960 the Edmonton Oilers, though according to oh in recent game, no, you're 563 00:37:12,079 --> 00:37:15,760 right, it is bad. And what's been frustrating with Ecklun is I've seen 564 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,400 this playing for the Barkud I've seen this playing for the Sharks, is that 565 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:23,760 he will make some really good plays. He'll evade some contact, he'll steal 566 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:28,280 a puck, he'll skate down and open up some space, and he'll look 567 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,920 for teammates and nobody is open, nobody is moving, They're not in the 568 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:35,639 right spots, and that can make you look like you're not as good as 569 00:37:35,639 --> 00:37:37,480 a player, because then you hold onto the puck longer than you should because 570 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:42,599 you weren't going to make a bad pass. So it's been really hard for 571 00:37:42,679 --> 00:37:45,639 him and I think, as you said, a huge part is the environment 572 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:50,039 that you just can't do anything about that. But he still has all the 573 00:37:50,079 --> 00:37:52,079 skill. In a points only league, I think he's higher, but if 574 00:37:52,079 --> 00:37:55,800 you count the peripherals, he's going to be lower because he's not gonna shoot, 575 00:37:55,840 --> 00:38:00,320 hit and block as much as some other forwards do. It's also money 576 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:04,360 to me that he looks very similar in like a hockey prospecting model to Logan 577 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,039 couture, which is that would be a good outcome in terms of like points 578 00:38:07,159 --> 00:38:13,119 production. In terms of that would the similarities there, I probably end in 579 00:38:13,199 --> 00:38:15,119 terms of the style of play, but he could have that kind of points 580 00:38:15,159 --> 00:38:19,519 upside. I should also mention that Jay Fresh has him as the seventh ranked 581 00:38:19,559 --> 00:38:22,559 forward in his data set, sixty one percent chances to being a star. 582 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:27,159 J Fresh also agrees William Cklinn could be great if we can get enough help 583 00:38:27,199 --> 00:38:32,519 around him. Marco Casper centerment bore the Detroit Red Wings, number forty three 584 00:38:32,559 --> 00:38:37,239 in Victor's rankings. He made his NHL debut last year, but he has 585 00:38:37,679 --> 00:38:42,280 qualified finally for the AHL this year and is off to a little bit of 586 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,320 a slow start. He is an inner Circle member of the we dare you 587 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:51,199 to bet against a high Stevie, why draft pick circle right now? So 588 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,280 tell us about Marco Casper and how he is moving up in your estimation. 589 00:38:57,519 --> 00:39:00,760 Yeah, you should probably keep him a bit lord And what I thought before, 590 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:06,079 like he has one point in TENHL ten HL games, and he hasn't 591 00:39:06,159 --> 00:39:07,760 looked great in the league. Honestly, I've watched him for a bunch of 592 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:13,159 games and he's missing passes, he's forcing them, doesn't really fun, hasn't 593 00:39:13,199 --> 00:39:15,880 really found his marks on the ice, and that usually happened for most players 594 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:21,199 who make the transition from Europe to the NHL eye the HL Ey, it's 595 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,760 actually much more difficult. We've seen it for a little Coston even in the 596 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:29,599 NHL, but with cash Bury it's a bit like it's the same phenomenon but 597 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:34,480 up to a lot more. He looks really lost right now. But with 598 00:39:34,559 --> 00:39:37,280 his style of play when you project over multiple seasons, like he has shot 599 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,440 down that shutdown game. He has a big motor, he has its speed, 600 00:39:40,519 --> 00:39:45,360 he can he can usually make plays in transition and yet apart from the 601 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:49,559 defensive zone to the defensive zone and then he's an amazing player around the net, 602 00:39:49,599 --> 00:39:52,719 like he finds space, he bangs bucks and so again it's not a 603 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:57,440 player who is going to score with its purely a skill. But at some 604 00:39:57,599 --> 00:40:00,199 point, if we project him as a shutdown center, two way center in 605 00:40:00,199 --> 00:40:05,239 the NHL, he's going to get those minutes and probably score a bit like 606 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,320 other shutdowns and NURSIVE league like Philip Dano and orders like maybe a sixty point 607 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:13,920 season, sixty five point fifty to fifty five around this range. He doesn't 608 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,639 belong higher on the list. I don't think so, especially with his start, 609 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,639 But someone you should keep in mind, just because of the opportunity is 610 00:40:19,679 --> 00:40:22,239 going to get and he has that enough skill that when he gets the right 611 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,360 teammates and the right minutes, it's going to translate to some points. At 612 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:31,440 least. I think Dano is probably a great comp someone who he's going to 613 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:35,440 get plenty of ice time just because of the way he plays. But yeah, 614 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,679 that's my concern is that he's just not he's not going to get enough 615 00:40:37,679 --> 00:40:40,880 points, especially the deployment. He's going to be in a role that is 616 00:40:42,599 --> 00:40:45,599 probably more defensive and not necessarily getting given all the best offensive minutes. So 617 00:40:45,639 --> 00:40:50,760 that that's my concern with Casper. So we'll see, maybe it'll work out 618 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,960 a little bit better. He certainly has he will get a this amount of 619 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,800 time on I so that that will help. But whether he's in the right 620 00:40:55,920 --> 00:41:01,599 role concerns me and down a little bit in Victress Frank he's number seventy nine. 621 00:41:01,679 --> 00:41:07,440 Calum Ritchie centerman for the Colorado Avalanche. He was the first round for 622 00:41:07,559 --> 00:41:12,599 Colorado last year and he's skating ready for his third go with the OHL's Ashawa 623 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,679 Generals. I don't see that he's there's any stats so far this year, 624 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:20,320 but he's injured rich again, always injured again. All right, that's your 625 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,880 starting point. But what do you like about Calum Richie in his game? 626 00:41:23,559 --> 00:41:27,440 Yeah, he wasn't. This is someone who was really a sleeper. I 627 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,639 feel right now he was a top playark coming up. He in his draft 628 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,679 er he played for a pretty bad General's team where he was the only played 629 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:38,719 driver. Everyone else on his team even was pretty lower quality prospect, except 630 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:44,280 except for one who's illigible for the draft this season, Bret Bikatt Seiniki, 631 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,119 who is a player to watch for a twenty twenty four draft. But he 632 00:41:47,199 --> 00:41:51,000 still scored at a point per game base and he had a pretty good U 633 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,519 eighteen tournament. He has a lot of skill. The issue skating is not 634 00:41:53,599 --> 00:41:58,880 his project more as averaged in above average, but the rest is all there. 635 00:41:59,039 --> 00:42:00,280 Yes, the defensive game, he can play on the walls, make 636 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:04,239 plays off the walls. He's the playmaking game on the power play too. 637 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,280 He's very deceptive and the stick only skill, so he has that a large 638 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,639 base of skill. He was just in a bad environment in his draft year, 639 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,599 and he was a top player coming up too. And usually when you 640 00:42:14,639 --> 00:42:16,920 look at prospects, the best players tend to stay the best as they move 641 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:21,039 up and level. So he was drafted at the end of the first round, 642 00:42:21,119 --> 00:42:23,599 but I think he was more like mid round value, Like maybe between 643 00:42:23,679 --> 00:42:27,920 town and twenty was really the spot he should have gone. We'll just see 644 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,719 if he gets the apportion in Colorado. Maybe when the team shifts, he's 645 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:32,760 going to rise up in the lineup. That's the issue with fantasy wise, 646 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:37,840 but he's a prospect you should keep in mind. Honestly. Yeah, I'm 647 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,400 eager to move him up once we see more data, once we see that 648 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:44,480 he takes off this year, but he hasn't done that yet. I totally 649 00:42:44,519 --> 00:42:47,000 agreed that I thought This was a steal by Colorado where they got him, 650 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,800 and I think he could be really good, especially being one of the few 651 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,440 good great players on that team he was on. So we'll keep an eye 652 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:57,000 on him for sure, because he's someone you may want to be buying. 653 00:42:57,039 --> 00:43:00,360 But I just I want to see how he does this here before doing that. 654 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:01,000 I want to see how that shoulder works. I want to see how 655 00:43:01,039 --> 00:43:07,639 that shot is looking before buying into him a little bit more. Den Mittaichuk, 656 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:12,079 let's move on to the defenseman here. He's our first one to talk 657 00:43:12,079 --> 00:43:15,079 about. He's a Columbus blue jacket. Victor likes him as his fourteenth best 658 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:21,679 defenseman. David has some positive things to say. He's started his fifth season 659 00:43:22,199 --> 00:43:25,760 with Moose Jaw in the WHL with twenty points over his first thirteen games. 660 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:30,840 That is better than his paces have even been in the past. So Mateichuck 661 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,159 is blowing it up right now out in the dub. What's going on with 662 00:43:34,199 --> 00:43:36,880 this guy? And why do you think he's going to be a success. 663 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,840 Oh, the preseason of Hokieky channel lie, But honestly, you look amazing 664 00:43:40,039 --> 00:43:44,360 with Columbus. At the start of season, he looked like an NHLR someone 665 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,840 who could stay this year and really make plays on a fire play and even 666 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:51,079 five on five. He was not comfortable at first, but near the end 667 00:43:51,079 --> 00:43:52,960 of preseason he was like, he's a smaller defenseman. You have no problem 668 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:57,920 handling khanda, accivating for checkers and all of this, and he looks like 669 00:43:58,039 --> 00:44:02,199 as good as Zach Warrensky at some point to he's going to have some issues 670 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,559 translating his game to the NHL. Right now, he's perusing a lot of 671 00:44:05,559 --> 00:44:08,079 points into the WHL. But he's a smaller player for sure, so it's 672 00:44:08,079 --> 00:44:13,760 always going to be harder for him in the league for sure. But he 673 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:15,920 has the defensive game down. He can defend the rush very well, and 674 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:21,280 he can handle physically the players like I said before, and he has all 675 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:22,960 those moves at the offensive line, he can make plays. He can evade 676 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:27,719 opponents and really go down the wall and make plays inside. So it's going 677 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:31,000 to be potentially a high point producer for Columbus if they gave him the right 678 00:44:31,039 --> 00:44:35,800 spots on the power play and in the lineup two. But they feel like 679 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,039 they really believe in him too. They drafted him super high for our smart 680 00:44:38,079 --> 00:44:43,079 defenseman at well overall. So that's already pretty indicative that they're going to give 681 00:44:43,159 --> 00:44:46,559 him some spots. And right now we're seeing a season from him that's about 682 00:44:46,599 --> 00:44:51,760 as good as Zelweger had in his final season in the WHL. So I 683 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,719 think there's a camp there and you have Zelwegger much higher on your list. 684 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:59,960 I I don't remember exactly where, but it's about the same type of player, 685 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:06,119 highly mobile that after really can make plays, and they have a good 686 00:45:06,119 --> 00:45:10,519 projection to dnhl's by being smaller players. Yeah, Zulagger was five, he 687 00:45:10,599 --> 00:45:15,960 might come up later. So Mittaichuk, Yeah, it's interesting to me you 688 00:45:15,039 --> 00:45:20,199 mentioned Warrensky When I look at hockey prospecting, he is the main comp for 689 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:24,320 Denti Mittachuck his his future teammate, and za Warnsky looked a little bit better 690 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:30,360 in his D plus one season just because of that massive outpurson he had in 691 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,760 NC double A. But yeah, they look similar in terms of their point 692 00:45:34,039 --> 00:45:37,920 projection upside and yeah, Mitaichuk and a lot of models is just redlining looking 693 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:42,760 really fantastic. They just have so many good defensemen. My concern has always 694 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,559 been how does he fit in there? I don't know your check is such 695 00:45:45,559 --> 00:45:51,639 a fantastic, like all around, all situations type defenseman, and he might 696 00:45:51,679 --> 00:45:54,360 even run the power play over Warrensky at some point. That might be like 697 00:45:54,519 --> 00:46:00,960 preference depending on the coach or system. But Mitaichek also great. But I'm 698 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,800 not sure if he is going to steal that any of those offensive roles from 699 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,039 those guys. So that's the part that concerns me just a little bit. 700 00:46:07,079 --> 00:46:09,519 I don't know if you have thoughts on that. Yeah, that's always the 701 00:46:09,559 --> 00:46:14,079 issue to project, Like, I don't know, I do know where Columbus 702 00:46:14,119 --> 00:46:17,960 is heading exactly either as a team, so it's a bit unknown. That's 703 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,840 probably the right spot for him down if you think about it's like you have 704 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,079 to project not only that the player his talents, but the fitth in the 705 00:46:24,079 --> 00:46:27,800 lineup, and it's always very hard, just as hard as projecting the player 706 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,079 in general. So you have two very variables always to account for. We'll 707 00:46:30,119 --> 00:46:34,119 see, but the one thing I can say is that he has the skills 708 00:46:34,159 --> 00:46:37,719 to play it to be a power play one guy. Maybe he gets traded 709 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:42,159 to it becomes a trade ship and goes elsewhere instead, we'll see one of 710 00:46:42,199 --> 00:46:47,559 the Anaheim Ducks, Pavel Mitchikov is a defenseman who's already up Victor's number thirteen 711 00:46:47,599 --> 00:46:52,800 defenseman, but he is blown up in the NHL. People are talking about 712 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:57,760 him with great praise nine points through his first thirteen NHL games. Boy, 713 00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,239 and he won't even be the last duct talked about a few so far. 714 00:47:00,559 --> 00:47:05,960 Tell me your opinions of Michikov and why you think he might even be better 715 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:10,199 than the thirteenth best prispect. I've given a lot of bad fantasy advice in 716 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:15,000 my Caaris analysts, but this one I'm pretty proud of because I told my 717 00:47:15,079 --> 00:47:19,480 friend to pick this guy before a season, and he's been really good, 718 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,239 honestlie. It was just as good as the other defenseman in his draft class. 719 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:27,400 So that's your check. I think, yeah, and NEMX and and 720 00:47:27,519 --> 00:47:30,719 all of this. It's just that he came out of nowhere. He was 721 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:35,440 an older birthday, so he was born in the Larry part of the year, 722 00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,679 late birthday, so we weren't sure about him as much. And there 723 00:47:37,679 --> 00:47:40,880 were some questions about his shot and is skating and those are out of the 724 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:45,519 window, like he improved those massively as a instance draft here. So he's 725 00:47:45,519 --> 00:47:49,239 a very complete defenseman, and that's always great because he has those offensive skills, 726 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,639 but you can rely on him to bucks out opponents. He has that 727 00:47:51,679 --> 00:47:54,159 physical ability and the defensive game too, So when you have that, you 728 00:47:54,159 --> 00:47:58,800 can layer your offensive skills on top and earned the minutes because the coach that 729 00:47:59,039 --> 00:48:01,360 coaching staff costs. And also a play on the bar, play and make 730 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:06,079 plays at five on five. So he's always activating in the play with his 731 00:48:06,199 --> 00:48:08,480 forwards. So I think he's going to produce at a high level. Maybe 732 00:48:08,559 --> 00:48:12,920 not this kind of point base, Like this is early season. We'll see 733 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,440 the other there's a lot of space on the ice, but you should be 734 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:19,119 a point producer in NHL, and you can already we can already adjust his 735 00:48:19,199 --> 00:48:22,039 project his projection as maybe a number one defenseman instead of a number two. 736 00:48:22,599 --> 00:48:27,760 He looks really good, really comfortable. He's confident, like all the quality 737 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:32,280 is necessary to play up in the lineup for years for the Ducks. Yeah, 738 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:37,000 a lot of times early in this season you're cautioning people like, Okay, 739 00:48:37,079 --> 00:48:40,159 he's doing too well, and you know, be concerned he's going to 740 00:48:40,199 --> 00:48:44,800 regress. But honestly, I think I'd rather just pump the hype up on 741 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:50,920 Minchikov because he's been just so impressively fantastic from an early age, and yeah, 742 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:52,800 I was I'm always a little skeptical two of the older guys because maybe 743 00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:58,880 they were just dominating their smaller, younger competition. Obviously that's not going to 744 00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,639 be the case when you jump into the NHL and you literally look like the 745 00:49:01,639 --> 00:49:05,880 best defenseman on the Anaheim Ducks, which maybe isn't the highest bar now, 746 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:10,519 but it's still an impressive fee to handle those minutes, to produce offense like 747 00:49:10,559 --> 00:49:15,239 he's done. It's been a very long time since they'd had an interesting power 748 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:20,400 play quarterback as a defenseman in Anaheim. Cam Feller is the most boring one 749 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,800 ever, Like he's okay at it, but he just he never really produces 750 00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:28,559 that much and he's certainly not the most exciting or interesting guy to do that. 751 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,559 Yeah, I absolutely love Minchikov. I have been a Zelweger stand for 752 00:49:31,599 --> 00:49:36,400 a long time. But it's hard. You can't ignore what Michikov is doing. 753 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,760 And if there's one thing that he has for sure that al Zelweger doesn't 754 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:43,280 is the size and the ability to be a little bit more physical. Even 755 00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,440 if Zelweger is a better skater. I'm not sure it's going to matter. 756 00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:50,480 I think Minchikov might just be the future one D and never give that roll 757 00:49:50,599 --> 00:49:53,280 up, And so I not that I don't think Zelweger is going to be 758 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:57,639 good. When we had Mitch on he talked a little bit about how both 759 00:49:57,679 --> 00:50:00,480 these guys could basically be like a top pairing defensemen and they might just split 760 00:50:00,559 --> 00:50:06,199 him up like when they unfairly had Chris Pronger and Scott Needemeyer. There might 761 00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,000 be more similarities though Mitchkov is no Pronger, He's not that big and mean, 762 00:50:09,079 --> 00:50:13,360 but there might be some similarities just in terms of the size and how 763 00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:15,039 each one of them kind of move. I don't know what you think about 764 00:50:15,039 --> 00:50:20,320 that, David. I really like this Zelwiger. The only reason I mentioned 765 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,880 him as someone who you might have slightly lower is that he's really struggled in 766 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:28,400 in preseason, like he wasn't ready for the level of play at all, 767 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,760 and I didn't expect that, Like he was trying to do everything on the 768 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,679 ice, that he was nervous and really wanted to prove himself, but he 769 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,679 just ended up being everywhere and not being effective. Like he didn't have the 770 00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:42,559 same timing or poise as Mintchukov. Look really comfortable playing at the pace of 771 00:50:42,599 --> 00:50:45,800 the NHL, and sometimes in the HL it's not about trying to outpace everyone 772 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:51,199 and play faster because that usually doesn't work, and that's what Zelweger tried to 773 00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,639 do. So again preseason always lie like he cannot take into account that too 774 00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:58,280 much. He's looked pretty good in the AHL, and I think he's going 775 00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,719 to build up his defensive game too. It won't be that physical, shutdown 776 00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:05,480 defenseman in the defensive zone like Minchukov, but he's going to be even more 777 00:51:05,519 --> 00:51:09,800 mobile and capable of absorbing Russias and killing plays in transition, creating dornovers and 778 00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:13,800 sharing offense dot way. So I fully agree. I think he has that 779 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,760 number one upside still as Elwegger. It's just a bit less certainty than with 780 00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,840 Intukov, like because of the size weakness and the defending in your own zone 781 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:27,800 weakness that we can predict will happen. But yeah, and they have a 782 00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:32,400 lot of interesting prospects with the Ducks for sure. Proc Faber, defenseman for 783 00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:38,480 the Minnesota Wild, Victor's thirtieth Best defenseman Prospect. The captain of the USA 784 00:51:38,679 --> 00:51:44,719 World Junior team last year's back in the NHL this year pretty well locked in 785 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:49,400 with Jonis Brodein on the top pairing. And I don't know if he made 786 00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:53,679 Kalin Addison redundant or what, but Kalin the other big prospect there is off 787 00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:58,800 the team Oiver in San Jose now and Brodein seems to be getting the minutes. 788 00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,079 Of course, Jared Spurgeon just came back too, but we'll see what 789 00:52:01,159 --> 00:52:07,159 happens. What are you seeing in brock favor and how Why do you think 790 00:52:07,159 --> 00:52:10,480 he's even better than the thirtieth best defense per prospect. Honestly, I think 791 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:14,239 it's about his range. But it's just a player who we have to keep 792 00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:17,119 an eye on because again he has the offensive game, the mobility and the 793 00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:22,000 size to play long minutes in the NHL. And in his draft here and 794 00:52:22,039 --> 00:52:24,760 in college he showed a lot of slashes of pluck moving abilities I feel haven't 795 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:30,440 developed fully, but in a good environment and with heres in the NHL, 796 00:52:30,519 --> 00:52:35,599 at some point you could see him have some kind of offensive not explosion, 797 00:52:35,679 --> 00:52:40,760 but maybe blossoming still just a bit. And reached thatt forty forty five fifty 798 00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:45,719 points that it would be surprising, but you could see a season or two 799 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:47,719 like a bit higher because he can move the puck. Well, we haven't 800 00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:52,400 seen those seals as much right now in the NHL, but he has everything 801 00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,320 else needed to succeed in the league. So he's planning to earn some minutes 802 00:52:54,599 --> 00:52:59,360 probably produced because of secondary resist and all of this, and at some point 803 00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,320 I think the pluck game is going to translate to some real repeatable production, 804 00:53:02,519 --> 00:53:07,760 not a lot, but someone just because of the minutes you can't really discard 805 00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:12,519 that much. Yeah, I love brock Favor. I've said this on the 806 00:53:12,559 --> 00:53:15,280 show. I just don't know that he's going to be a strong fantasy asset, 807 00:53:15,519 --> 00:53:20,400 mainly because he's just too good in real life. Like he's just someone 808 00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,519 you put out in all situations. He's going to get tough assignments. He's 809 00:53:23,599 --> 00:53:30,440 quite literally already nearly the best two way defenseman on the while Jonas Burden is 810 00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:35,400 just a smidge ahead of him defensively, And that's just amazing that he's already 811 00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:39,119 better than all the other regular NHL ors that they have in Minnesota. And 812 00:53:39,159 --> 00:53:43,760 he's so young, but he's he's so smart, he's so capably puts himself 813 00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,320 in the right situation. He kills plays before they happen, those kinds of 814 00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:50,119 things which don't always translate to points, but sometimes they do. As you 815 00:53:50,159 --> 00:53:52,960 mentioned, David, so he's right now clicking around a thirty five point pace. 816 00:53:53,039 --> 00:53:55,960 That's probably where he will live. I would imagine in that range, 817 00:53:55,960 --> 00:54:00,280 it will be seasons where he, like you said, a secondary assistanm pokes 818 00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,159 up a little bit more. But he's not the kind of guy that you 819 00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:06,519 expect to run the power play per se like he can, but that's not 820 00:54:06,559 --> 00:54:09,519 really that's not really going to be his bread and butter. So love brock 821 00:54:09,559 --> 00:54:14,400 Favor. He's someone I would absolutely take on my team if I was building 822 00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,559 an actual team, But in terms of my fantasy team, he probably will 823 00:54:17,599 --> 00:54:22,679 be rosterble in some formats, but I'm just not sure it'll be that valuable. 824 00:54:22,679 --> 00:54:25,480 Plus because he's always in such good situations and kills plays, he ends 825 00:54:25,559 --> 00:54:30,800 up not blocking too many shots because he doesn't need to the play's already going 826 00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:34,400 the other way. So that's part of the I guess, bad part for 827 00:54:34,519 --> 00:54:39,000 him for fantasy because he's just better in real life. David Ryan Backer a 828 00:54:39,159 --> 00:54:45,679 top pick in this past year's rookie drafted defenseman for Montreal Victor's thirty fourth ranked 829 00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:50,239 defenseman. Back over in Switzerland again this year. While Lene Hudson and Kaden 830 00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:54,079 Gooley get all the time in North America to make some impressions. Ryan Backer's 831 00:54:54,079 --> 00:54:57,880 not scoring a whole ton over there, but he's in a man's league, 832 00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,400 as they say, and he is getting minutes over there. You got around 833 00:55:00,679 --> 00:55:06,159 twenty average shamanis in his game so far according to the Lead Prospects data. 834 00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:09,599 So tell us about David Ryan Backer in why maybe we're still just a little 835 00:55:09,639 --> 00:55:14,880 bit too low about him. He compares to Rock Favor, but I think 836 00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:21,000 he's a bit more favorable offensively than Favor as or was at the same age. 837 00:55:21,159 --> 00:55:23,119 He's more willing to experiment, more willing to build his skills, and 838 00:55:23,159 --> 00:55:27,400 we've seen a great progression from the beginning of struct here to the end in 839 00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,960 terms of willing to be jumping into the play and making plays at the offensive 840 00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:35,199 line. Doesn't always translate to production, and he doesn't have that playmaking instinct 841 00:55:35,199 --> 00:55:40,440 necessarily, But I think the development pight resemble Cateren Gooley in some aspects because 842 00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:45,400 skatering Gully was also a very shut down heavy the defenseman industryt here, but 843 00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:50,639 he had the offensive tools to build a better offensive game. So he had 844 00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,159 the skating ability and able to make the plant to make play still and at 845 00:55:54,159 --> 00:55:59,599 some point I think it translated to more production. Not a great fantasy stuff, 846 00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:01,800 you say, with a rock favor, but in terms of offensive ceiling, 847 00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:05,280 I think it's a bit harder than Faber. So just because of the 848 00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,400 minuts he's going to play, and because of the willing and that's to activate 849 00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:12,280 into the play and to try those plays. And when players younger players are 850 00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:16,079 willing to try some things, usually they improve the door and at some point 851 00:56:16,079 --> 00:56:20,679 you see the results. Not always, but usually it's the players who experiment 852 00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,360 who developed the most. So we'll see. Yeah, I'm really eager to 853 00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:28,960 see what happens with rhan Bacher. You made a really good video too, 854 00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,800 David, if I remember correctly, comparing him with was it cider, Yeah, 855 00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:36,199 cider yeah, because that was a lot of people, idiots like me 856 00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:42,039 just making the simple German speaking defenceman playing really high in men's league, and 857 00:56:42,079 --> 00:56:45,079 then you said smart things about the differences between them. It's really interesting. 858 00:56:45,119 --> 00:56:50,840 We have to see where he goes from here. I think people way overreacted 859 00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:58,000 to the draft pick by Montreal and he received unfortunate nasty comments, which is 860 00:56:58,039 --> 00:57:01,079 really uncalled for. But he could still end up being pretty decent. He 861 00:57:01,119 --> 00:57:06,199 has a lot of time to develop and he could end up having some pretty 862 00:57:06,199 --> 00:57:08,519 decent point seasons. He's going to play in the league. I think that's 863 00:57:08,559 --> 00:57:13,159 the important thing. So a lot of these picks, especially after you get 864 00:57:13,199 --> 00:57:15,800 past ten, aren't necessarily going to play in the league. He's someone who 865 00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:17,679 ended up with a couple of spots because I had later first round picks and 866 00:57:17,679 --> 00:57:22,199 people were fading him, going for the high upside forwards and whatnot. So 867 00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:24,480 I was like, sure, he's going to play NHL minutes. It may 868 00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:29,320 not be great offensive minutes, but he's going to play. So I think 869 00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,280 you take that bet all day because you can always make a decision later and 870 00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:35,760 you never know. Maybe he does end up more like Cider than we all 871 00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,920 think. Probably not, but it's possible. Last one in this segment, 872 00:57:39,119 --> 00:57:45,239 Kilan Addison defenseman San Jose Sharks. Victor's number thirty seven. He was about 873 00:57:45,239 --> 00:57:47,400 half point per game last year. He was skating second pair of minutes. 874 00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:52,920 Then Jared Spurgeon got back and Killan Addison was moved out to San Jose, 875 00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:59,880 closer to Victor to watch. What is up with Kilan Addison And why do 876 00:57:59,920 --> 00:58:04,079 you think he's a little bit better than where he's ranked. This is me 877 00:58:04,199 --> 00:58:07,840 trying to not think about the real game and really trying about the upside and 878 00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:12,000 fantasy, which I really do. I'm alre the other way around, because 879 00:58:12,519 --> 00:58:15,000 if he gets the spot on the power play, he has enough skill to 880 00:58:15,079 --> 00:58:19,559 really put up points. And we've seen that little while at some with some 881 00:58:19,599 --> 00:58:23,320 stretches last season. She said the coach didn't really trust him with his minutes 882 00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:27,800 because he can't make any players defensively, like he's a smaller player, but 883 00:58:28,119 --> 00:58:31,800 he has those distribution skills and he shot is really great, Like he can 884 00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:35,599 score some goals too. So if he gets in the right system, there's 885 00:58:35,639 --> 00:58:37,719 plays for him. Maybe he can start putting up points, but that depends 886 00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,639 always on the strength of the power play itself. So now he's with the 887 00:58:40,679 --> 00:58:45,639 Sharks, I don't know at what rate their power play is running, but 888 00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:49,039 I'm not sure it's going to be the exact right spot for him either, 889 00:58:49,199 --> 00:58:52,239 just because maybe he gets that powerplay one spot. I don't know who exactly 890 00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:57,960 is on the Sharks back, but if there's the parkplay is not running very 891 00:58:58,039 --> 00:59:00,079 high, it won't matter too much. So we'll see he's a part to 892 00:59:00,159 --> 00:59:04,960 watch. I can't put it like this. Not the best hockey player in 893 00:59:05,039 --> 00:59:08,480 terms of NHL th your NHL game, but the defantasy upside is there, 894 00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:12,880 and it's probably so it's probably because why he's ranked at thirty seven, just 895 00:59:13,199 --> 00:59:17,199 thinking of that, but also accounting for environment and the other issues he might 896 00:59:17,239 --> 00:59:22,360 face. Yeah, so I actually just wrote a whole article on EP ring 897 00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:27,559 side about Addison for fantasy perspectives, a really deep dive. And you're right. 898 00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,960 He doesn't play in the NHL. It doesn't play anywhere if he's not 899 00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:34,840 on the power play. That's his role, Like he is an offensive defenseman. 900 00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,119 You don't put him out there to shut down the other teams that players. 901 00:59:37,159 --> 00:59:40,480 That is a really terrible idea if that's what you're thinking. So that 902 00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:45,559 he's going to get the opportunity, And yes the San Jose Sharks that power 903 00:59:45,559 --> 00:59:49,320 play is poor, but it is still a power play in the NHL. 904 00:59:49,559 --> 00:59:52,880 There's that, and he's getting way more time on ice than he ever has 905 00:59:52,239 --> 00:59:55,760 in Minnesota. In fact, he had one actual game that was hired time 906 00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:59,480 on ice in Minnesota, but I believe there are other people that had injuries 907 00:59:59,519 --> 01:00:01,360 in that game. So that's really the only time he ever got high time 908 01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:05,639 on ice was out of necessity. And in San Jose, they're already showing 909 01:00:05,639 --> 01:00:07,360 they're going to use him a lot. They're going to give him a lot 910 01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:09,400 of opportunity because why not, he's in our faith this summer. They're gonna 911 01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:14,599 let him see what he can do, and maybe he shows great and maybe 912 01:00:14,239 --> 01:00:19,239 they just don't resign him and they cost him a fifth round pick in hl 913 01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:22,280 OR. So pretty easy gamble there. That is going to do it. 914 01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:25,239 For this first segment, we're going to take a brief break, come back 915 01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:38,159 and talk some more prospects. This two excellent, our serious injury boom back, 916 01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:43,719 and the first segment we talked about the guys David likes a little better 917 01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:47,360 than Victor. Perhaps this second segment, we're going to flip the script and 918 01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:52,320 we're going to talk about Victor's guys, starting with Lucas Reichel, Chicago winger, 919 01:00:52,559 --> 01:00:57,079 Victor's number seven forward prospect. His season right now is off to a 920 01:00:57,119 --> 01:01:00,559 slow start in the NHL one point through his first twelve games after a decent 921 01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:05,840 first season, played with a whole lot of tailor radish in his first two 922 01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:08,159 years in the NHL. But I don't know, David, what is your 923 01:01:08,159 --> 01:01:13,920 take on Lucas Reichel and why do you think not necessarily all the way up 924 01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:19,039 to the number seven forward. My think is not really based on this year 925 01:01:19,079 --> 01:01:22,199 in Chicago. It's a player and I don't really believe him, and it's 926 01:01:22,199 --> 01:01:24,559 been the same for a few years now. The only thing I see in 927 01:01:24,599 --> 01:01:30,239 this game is so he works with other speedy players who can outpace defenses and 928 01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:34,440 create off turnovers and all this, but there's not a lot in his skill 929 01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:37,039 set. So unless he plays with Connor Belar in the right spot, I'm 930 01:01:37,039 --> 01:01:42,280 not sure he's going to be an HL point producer or even a great NHL 931 01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:44,880 or so I'm not sure he's going to get the minutes. I think that 932 01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:47,079 the team believes in him a little too much right now for what he has 933 01:01:47,119 --> 01:01:51,559 shown in the AHL in terms of play. So he is producing, but 934 01:01:51,639 --> 01:01:53,599 the DHL is a game of mistakes, So as long as you can get 935 01:01:53,599 --> 01:01:57,519 to loose box and turn them into scoring chance you're going to produce a lot, 936 01:01:57,679 --> 01:02:00,000 and we've seen some players who are tailor made for the HL game who 937 01:02:00,039 --> 01:02:05,199 don't picially produce in the NHL. And I wouldn't say it's exactly that, 938 01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,920 but you have to be careful with him because he's not a very diverse player. 939 01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:12,079 He scores in one way and has been the same thing for a year, 940 01:02:12,159 --> 01:02:15,960 So unless he gets the exact right fit or player like Connor Bedauer who 941 01:02:15,159 --> 01:02:19,360 can just make anyone score, it might be difficult for him. So I 942 01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:24,360 would bring him lore. Honestly, this is an interesting case because I agreed 943 01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:28,840 with everything you said initially, and I had him really low and I was 944 01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:31,159 like, he's just really fast, and he skates by people and he doesn't 945 01:02:31,199 --> 01:02:36,639 necessarily analyze the best play and not as much of a playmaker. And then 946 01:02:36,679 --> 01:02:39,440 I think I got a little too enamored with not just the HL play, 947 01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:44,159 although I agree with you that was impressive, But then also like his twenty 948 01:02:44,159 --> 01:02:49,039 three games last season, again super small sample size, but I watched some 949 01:02:49,159 --> 01:02:52,559 of those and it seemed like he was doing some different things, like it 950 01:02:52,639 --> 01:02:55,480 was mostly similar, he had some breakaways, and I just remember thinking like, 951 01:02:55,559 --> 01:02:59,800 maybe he can translate to the NHL, right, maybe he can, 952 01:03:00,519 --> 01:03:02,519 And so I got a little I think enamor with that, and then of 953 01:03:02,559 --> 01:03:07,159 course thinking like he's gonna play with Badard, which he hasn't really and then 954 01:03:07,639 --> 01:03:09,800 he's gonna play so you like that, I push those guys up a little 955 01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:13,760 bit that are like for sure going to be playing in the league. But 956 01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,199 yeah, he is not necessarily as diverse in his skill sets, so that 957 01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:22,320 that does concern me a bit, and I maybe should move him back down 958 01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:24,000 a little bit. I actually ended up with him in multiple places, and 959 01:03:24,039 --> 01:03:29,119 I'm a little regretting it because it hasn't really gone very well so far this 960 01:03:29,159 --> 01:03:31,559 season. But I'm still looking at the long view and still looking at on 961 01:03:31,639 --> 01:03:36,719 a power play with Badard and other competent players down the road, it still 962 01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:40,199 could be pretty good. Although I also agree with you he's not the best 963 01:03:40,239 --> 01:03:45,280 like end zone player. He's much better like rush player. So is he 964 01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:47,199 even going to be that good on the power play. That's a little bit 965 01:03:47,199 --> 01:03:52,159 of a concern for me. He needs to develop new skills to really or 966 01:03:52,199 --> 01:03:54,519 flesh out other skills to really be able to take advantage of that. Yeah, 967 01:03:54,599 --> 01:03:59,159 I feel like this was a Yeah, I agree with you more than 968 01:03:59,159 --> 01:04:02,480 myself on this. Yeah, it's just if he plays when Ben are, 969 01:04:02,599 --> 01:04:05,840 you could look really good with his start ranking. But it's just he's not 970 01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:10,800 someone who's going to drive a line by himself, even the last and some 971 01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:14,159 of the other players like Oliver Moore and then we've talked about, so just 972 01:04:14,159 --> 01:04:17,280 be careful what we crack oy. He well' see. His career will dip 973 01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:23,519 down on who he plays with more than other players. We're playing the Hits 974 01:04:23,559 --> 01:04:26,519 today. Some of Victor's favorite guys in the next one. Marco Rossi, 975 01:04:27,119 --> 01:04:32,239 Minnesota Wild centerman, Victor's number thirteen forward and with half point per game so 976 01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:35,400 far in his first fourteen games this year with the Wild, his second tour 977 01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:39,599 in the NHL looks a lot better than his first did last year. He 978 01:04:39,719 --> 01:04:44,400 has got a couple of games with Caprizov and Boldy mixed in there that was 979 01:04:44,559 --> 01:04:47,679 nice, and that was about when half of those seven points happened. So 980 01:04:48,559 --> 01:04:53,239 let's see if he can get that roll back because it's not coming to him 981 01:04:53,239 --> 01:04:58,119 every night. But tell us your take on Marco Rossi, David, He's 982 01:04:58,159 --> 01:05:01,320 one of my favorite players. So sad at having to tule him down there. 983 01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:05,039 It's just I really believe in him, but his style of play is 984 01:05:05,159 --> 01:05:09,679 an enabler. He really needs to play with the right players to be shine, 985 01:05:09,719 --> 01:05:13,760 Like he's someone who connects plays more than he creates them. And are 986 01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,559 getting to the nitty gritty here, but I mean that if he plays with 987 01:05:16,639 --> 01:05:19,400 skill player is going to make them shine even more. But if he plays 988 01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:23,639 with more role players, he's not going to score as much. Like he's 989 01:05:23,679 --> 01:05:27,679 not the affiliate than all, but he plays more of a give and go 990 01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:31,320 game than that deceptive, manipulative kind of game, like a heroic Kaprizov. 991 01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:34,480 And he can play the power play half wall, but maybe not as well 992 01:05:34,519 --> 01:05:38,880 as someone that I like the Caprizov. So the skills are high end, 993 01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:42,599 but maybe not elite. It's just that he's placed in the right position and 994 01:05:42,639 --> 01:05:46,199 he makes others shine. The issues that he's small, so his best position 995 01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:50,320 is at center. But I'm not sure that over the long term Angel coaches 996 01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:54,360 are going to keep him as the first line center. It's just that my 997 01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:57,760 take is basically that I don't think people are going to love him or trust 998 01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:01,000 him as much as maybe Victorian I would, And I think it's going to 999 01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:04,159 affect his caller and continue to affect his career, even if he's king to 1000 01:06:04,519 --> 01:06:09,679 getting those minutes a bit more now because there are spots open, we'll see 1001 01:06:09,719 --> 01:06:13,320 if he really sticks in that kind of role that's going to make him shine 1002 01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,280 over the long term. Even if he can play actual I'm not sure others 1003 01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:19,599 are going to trust him as much. So it's projection based on perception of 1004 01:06:19,679 --> 01:06:24,840 others more than myself actually, But I have to insist on this. I 1005 01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:27,760 really like Rossing, and I think he has the skill to play and to 1006 01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:30,400 produce at a high level like eighty points. I think that's possible for him, 1007 01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:35,559 but just easy going to get the right opportunities. Yeah, I'm also 1008 01:06:35,679 --> 01:06:40,199 going to just die on that hill that Rossi has all the talent, And 1009 01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:42,519 like you said, if he gets the right opportunity, if we knew that 1010 01:06:42,639 --> 01:06:45,840 he was going to be between Boldie and Capriso for the next ten years, 1011 01:06:46,119 --> 01:06:49,599 then we could easily say he's a point per game player. But we don't 1012 01:06:49,599 --> 01:06:54,440 know that, and we've seen that he hasn't necessarily always gotten that, in 1013 01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:58,880 fact, rarely gotten that deployment. So yeah, that's totally what it is 1014 01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:02,679 too. But I usually rank based on upside and top end potential, and 1015 01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:08,159 so I'm not moving him because I still think he can do that, and 1016 01:07:08,199 --> 01:07:12,320 it's nice that we're seeing some signs of them actually trying it. Hopefully they 1017 01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:15,920 can keep that up. It just makes sense to me too, Lyrics and 1018 01:07:15,079 --> 01:07:17,880 k is more of a matchup guy, and then they have Ryan Hartman, 1019 01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:21,360 who is also a good complimentary piece. Why not put your three best offensive 1020 01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:26,079 players together. It just makes sense, But we've seen some hesitance to do 1021 01:07:26,159 --> 01:07:30,719 that, so totally agree with you and hoping that they can keep him there 1022 01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:33,320 because he has actually been taking a fair number of face offs. He is 1023 01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:36,480 not very good at them so far, but then there's also other play. 1024 01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:42,360 He's been able to keep his head maybe just barely above water defensively, and 1025 01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:45,519 I think for someone with that kind of offensive skill, that's all you should 1026 01:07:45,519 --> 01:07:47,559 really want, especially if you're playing with Boldie, who can make anyone look 1027 01:07:47,559 --> 01:07:53,159 good, and Kaprisov obviously is an offensive genius. So it also just seems 1028 01:07:53,159 --> 01:07:56,639 to make sense from like a how you build a great line. You think 1029 01:07:56,639 --> 01:08:00,840 about the perfection line with Marshaun bergeron Imposternok and how they all do things differently 1030 01:08:00,239 --> 01:08:03,119 it's not always about putting the best three guys together, but the guys who 1031 01:08:03,119 --> 01:08:06,599 work the best together. And I do still think that's those three, but 1032 01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:12,719 apparently not everyone in Minnesota and the coaching staff agrees with that. It's going 1033 01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:15,039 to be a fight here, folks. I'm just preparing you because we're talking 1034 01:08:15,039 --> 01:08:20,960 to Logan Stankovin and Logan Stankovin. Of course, Dallas Starr sent a right 1035 01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:27,520 winger, Victor's number eighteen prospect, finally able to graduate the WHL and in 1036 01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:30,880 the AHL, he's already put up fourteen points where he did put up fourteen 1037 01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:33,920 points in his first eleven games. People have talked about a big addition to 1038 01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:38,319 the Stars to give them a push this year. I say, why not 1039 01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:43,079 Stanky because he could he could maybe make an impact from an offensive perspective. 1040 01:08:43,199 --> 01:08:47,560 But tell us your take on Logan Stankovin, David, It's just is he 1041 01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:54,279 going to get that top six spot? Early's Scottish probably like Cold Caffield with 1042 01:08:54,359 --> 01:08:57,680 someone like this, he's a smaller player who has that shot. We can 1043 01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:00,520 make plays. He just doesn't have the same base or skating capability as Skull 1044 01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:06,760 Coffeel. I feel his skating looks more average, shoes slightly about average in 1045 01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:11,520 the AHL. The quickness is there, it's just a speed over a long 1046 01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:15,199 distance. The agility it's not as good as some other smaller players in the 1047 01:09:15,279 --> 01:09:17,680 league. It's just to score a bit. Like Rossi, he needs to 1048 01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:23,439 be trusted into a top six role and remain there for a while. And 1049 01:09:24,039 --> 01:09:27,960 I feel like a shell. Coaching staff are still going to prefer some other 1050 01:09:28,039 --> 01:09:30,399 players sometimes to players of stank Covin, but he has the skill to play 1051 01:09:30,399 --> 01:09:33,520 in those spots. Is that when he enters those spots, is it going 1052 01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:40,239 to be more shaky or not as certain as other players would would have in 1053 01:09:40,279 --> 01:09:42,720 that same spot. I don't know if that makes sense with this, but 1054 01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:45,079 it's just I think the skill is there, the upside is there. The 1055 01:09:45,159 --> 01:09:49,159 uncertainty and their care projection is not as clear with him as other players. 1056 01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:54,479 The one thing I've always seen with stank Covin as a smaller player is you 1057 01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:58,720 look for those elite skills, and he certainly doesn't have the shot of Coffield. 1058 01:09:59,199 --> 01:10:01,520 But what I do like about stank Covin is that it seems like he 1059 01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:08,039 can score in different ways and so he has other creativity. I think he's 1060 01:10:08,079 --> 01:10:11,560 a much better playmaker than or he maybe not much better, but he seems 1061 01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:15,359 like he's a better playmaker than Cowfield. So he has other ways and he's 1062 01:10:15,399 --> 01:10:19,720 maybe not fast, but he is really good. He's high effort, high 1063 01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:24,600 motor defensively, so he can pickpucks off opponents. He can do other things. 1064 01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:28,319 It's not, like another example, not necessarily a small player. But 1065 01:10:28,359 --> 01:10:30,279 you need to mention when we talked about Rachel, there's guys like Alex Holtz, 1066 01:10:30,319 --> 01:10:33,279 like they're out there for one reason, and that isn't the case with 1067 01:10:33,319 --> 01:10:38,159 stank Covin. He can thrive in multiple roles, and so I've always liked 1068 01:10:38,199 --> 01:10:43,000 that about him because if you are just trying to flex one skill like it 1069 01:10:43,079 --> 01:10:45,439 better be elite. But that isn't necessarily the case with him. So I 1070 01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:48,319 agree with this skating, but he's just so smart and he seems to see 1071 01:10:48,319 --> 01:10:53,039 the ice so well. He's showing that in the HL. Can that happen 1072 01:10:53,039 --> 01:10:56,720 in the NHL, which is a whole other level obviously remains to be seen. 1073 01:10:56,760 --> 01:11:00,760 But I just love the guy and I think that they should But then 1074 01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:03,079 we're talking in should land giving him the right opportunity. Obviously that may not 1075 01:11:03,159 --> 01:11:08,039 happen. Yeah, I've always been a bit lower on Steinkloven than Done, 1076 01:11:08,039 --> 01:11:13,439 mostly so then most other public unalysts, so that might be what's going on 1077 01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:15,479 here. I really like his start in DHL. When I watched him, 1078 01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:19,000 he was really good. And he's playing with Medleigue Book who's an art player 1079 01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:23,399 who is breaking out right now. So we'll see. It always depends if 1080 01:11:23,399 --> 01:11:26,199 he gets the spot that you're right about the playmaking, and that's something that 1081 01:11:26,239 --> 01:11:29,119 I should have mentioned. He has though this deceptive skills. It can make 1082 01:11:29,119 --> 01:11:32,119 play true opponents like, Yeah, he's pretty impressive in that aspect of the 1083 01:11:32,199 --> 01:11:39,640 game. Two. Yeah, somehow I wish the Stars could move Tyler Sagan 1084 01:11:40,239 --> 01:11:43,920 for somebody and then move him up in the top six. Nevermind, I 1085 01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:46,680 don't know what I'm talking about. Riley Height, Minnesota Wild center left winger, 1086 01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:51,119 Victor's number thirty three prospect. He's in his fourth ter in the WHL. 1087 01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:55,359 He has twenty seven points in his first sixteen games this year. I 1088 01:11:55,359 --> 01:12:00,880 know Victor talked about him and from Nashville this year the draft music guy who 1089 01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:04,079 came up a lot in that context, tell us about Riley height, maybe 1090 01:12:04,159 --> 01:12:09,840 why you are a little bit lower on him than others. Yeah, I 1091 01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:13,119 think if there's a risk with him that he's mostly a junior score, not 1092 01:12:13,159 --> 01:12:16,119 an NHL score. Again, there's a size concern, but we don't talk 1093 01:12:16,159 --> 01:12:19,560 about this with every player, but it's mostly that the skills are are good 1094 01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:23,880 but not exceptional. And he's last year he used to score a lot on 1095 01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:27,560 a power play and because he played with the right teammates Zeemer. I don't 1096 01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:30,359 know if he goin Zeemer. There's another the same production right now, but 1097 01:12:30,399 --> 01:12:32,600 about the same production base who's a much more physical player. We can go 1098 01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:35,560 on the boards and get Bucks to height in the middle of the eye. 1099 01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:39,359 So I think he in the thing timmy boys with. He has a lot 1100 01:12:39,359 --> 01:12:43,439 of chemistry on his line and it's easier for him to make plays. So 1101 01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:46,239 even if he's his skill is clearly above our ridge in his league. But 1102 01:12:46,279 --> 01:12:49,279 when he gets the NHL, that skill gap is going to shrink, and 1103 01:12:49,319 --> 01:12:54,359 I'm not sure he's going there's going to be enough in this game anymore to 1104 01:12:54,399 --> 01:12:58,119 really make him shine in a top six role. So he's scoring like a 1105 01:12:58,159 --> 01:13:00,079 top six future top six player in the NHL. It's just that in terms 1106 01:13:00,079 --> 01:13:03,960 of skill evaluation, I would be a bit more careful with him in terms 1107 01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:09,439 of where I put him on my list, I don't disagree at all. 1108 01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:14,199 He is a low percentage outcome, but if he hits, it's going to 1109 01:13:14,279 --> 01:13:17,760 be great. So that's I've always wanted to add some sort of like volatility 1110 01:13:18,239 --> 01:13:23,680 to the ranking, and the volatility here would be high for Hight for sure. 1111 01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:26,319 He's the kind of guy that in fantasy, you know, like an 1112 01:13:26,399 --> 01:13:30,119 NHL team, you're more careful, but in fantasy you pick this guy later 1113 01:13:30,199 --> 01:13:32,800 in the first round or second round because if he hits great, If not, 1114 01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:35,439 you just drop him. You don't have to invest time, money, 1115 01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:39,960 capital in trying to develop this player, like the why I'll do. It's 1116 01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:42,840 going to be tricky to try to turn him into an NHL player, but 1117 01:13:43,159 --> 01:13:46,079 if they can develop him right then it'll be really worth it. So that's 1118 01:13:46,239 --> 01:13:51,199 yeah, I definitely agree on Riley Hyde. Okay, Quentin Musty Sandals a 1119 01:13:51,279 --> 01:13:57,520 Shark pick this year. Left winger Victor calls him number fifty three on the 1120 01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:00,479 forward board, another late first round pick. He's on his third tour of 1121 01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:05,159 Sudbury. I challenged somebody to tell me how to make a hockey nickname out 1122 01:14:05,159 --> 01:14:10,520 of Quintin Musty. Do you call him Must's, muster, Quint's, I 1123 01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:13,439 don't know, Quinty. I don't know how you do it. But anyway, 1124 01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:15,840 regardless of what we call him, David tell us what to expect from 1125 01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:19,159 him, I would have him higher. I think it's one of player's. 1126 01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:23,720 I think there's a confusion here. It doesn't really matter, honestly, but 1127 01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:28,560 he's just he has Quentin Musty as the NHL bill. He has clearly in 1128 01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:31,079 terms of projection above any average NHL skills. He can make plays, he 1129 01:14:31,079 --> 01:14:33,640 can shoot the buck. The skating is a bit of a concern, but 1130 01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:36,560 not too much. And it was a top player coming up, so, 1131 01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:41,680 like I said, usually top players tend to state top players as they grow 1132 01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:45,680 up. I think he was drafted a bit light considering his package of skills 1133 01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:47,640 and what he can do and how he's going to give up. Because if 1134 01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:51,319 you think he just adds a bit more speed to his stride, he could 1135 01:14:51,359 --> 01:14:57,159 score a lot in junior. And he has that top six NHR skill too, 1136 01:14:57,239 --> 01:15:00,079 and he's going to play for the Sharks who need those kinds of flowers. 1137 01:15:00,359 --> 01:15:04,439 He's someone I would look very intensely at and in terms of fantazzy even, 1138 01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:09,760 Yeah, that's good that you think he's a little bit higher. So 1139 01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:13,560 I when I went to the prospects game in San Jose where they had Will 1140 01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:17,159 Smith and all the top prospects, it was the Quinn Musty show. He 1141 01:15:17,239 --> 01:15:21,560 was the best player on the ice by far. He outshined Will Smith. 1142 01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:26,520 It wasn't even close, and it was everything about his game. Smith was 1143 01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:30,319 cheating for offense, he was doing the things that Will Smith often does, 1144 01:15:30,399 --> 01:15:33,800 and Musty was stealing pucks and taking them in for breakaways. He was on 1145 01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:36,720 the right side of the puck, generating offense in the right way. You 1146 01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:40,640 just you love to see that. This skating is a bit of an issue, 1147 01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:43,359 and there were a couple of times where he did get chased down or 1148 01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:46,279 wasn't able to separate. But he's just so smart and he can score in 1149 01:15:46,319 --> 01:15:48,520 a lot of different ways too, like we've been talking about with some other 1150 01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:53,520 players. So I really like that about Musty. And the reality is that 1151 01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:56,399 those two obviously are going to play together and it can probably help each other. 1152 01:15:56,600 --> 01:16:00,000 But in terms of who's probably more available and you can get better Vaue 1153 01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:01,760 how are you from in fantasy, it's gonna be Musty because everyone's gonna want 1154 01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:05,399 Smith and everyone's gonna think he's the high pedigree guy, which he is based 1155 01:16:05,399 --> 01:16:10,000 on where he was drafted. But they're sleeping a little too much on Musty. 1156 01:16:11,319 --> 01:16:14,119 Yeah, and he's a July sixth birthday like he yes, did the 1157 01:16:14,119 --> 01:16:15,760 weight of NHL right now, but he's going to do a lot more like 1158 01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:21,359 he's a young player right Moving on to the defenseman in this category, we 1159 01:16:21,399 --> 01:16:26,560 already talked about Owen Zolweer. He's the flip side of the conversation about Pablo 1160 01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:30,800 Minschikov. So let's go on to Alexander Nikishkin, defenceman for the Carolina Hurricanes. 1161 01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:36,000 Victor's number eleven ranked defenseman had a couple of really good years at Scott 1162 01:16:36,079 --> 01:16:41,600 Saint Pete. That's legit accomplishment for a twenty two year old. So tell 1163 01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:45,560 us about Alexander Nikishkin. What nikishan in? What your opinion of him is, 1164 01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:48,920 David, I think, honestly you have him in the right spot. 1165 01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:53,159 It's just that, like Chase Roylt on our website, if hearing, sorry, 1166 01:16:53,319 --> 01:16:57,199 there's been a decline in Russian hockey in general in terms of competition level, 1167 01:16:57,239 --> 01:17:00,159 and he's in the right spot in his team, and he's pu a 1168 01:17:00,159 --> 01:17:02,800 lot because he gets the minutes and because they work off his point shots a 1169 01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:06,560 lot, so the offense runs through him mostly, so that's why he's getting 1170 01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:11,159 a lot of points. So I think the points are over selling his ability 1171 01:17:11,319 --> 01:17:14,279 just a bit. Like he's probably going to be a tough four defenseman in 1172 01:17:14,319 --> 01:17:15,560 the NHL. He has the mobility, he has, the size, can 1173 01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:18,239 the fund he can activate into the play. So he has a lot of 1174 01:17:18,359 --> 01:17:25,800 interesting offensive skills. It's just that maybe don't take the production like it used 1175 01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:28,880 to be for the KHL defenceman. If you approved a lot in the league, 1176 01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:31,119 you were high in prospect. I think over the last few years it's 1177 01:17:31,199 --> 01:17:34,399 not as true. For sure, would just be careful with the production in 1178 01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:36,960 the KHL, but not too much. I think you have him in the 1179 01:17:38,039 --> 01:17:42,640 right spot. Yeah, we're actually gonna have Chase McCollum on the show in 1180 01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:45,720 a couple of weeks to talk about that factor, because that is a really 1181 01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:46,920 interesting point. And I don't know about you, David, but I'm always 1182 01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:51,000 a little skeptical when a prospect does not much and then gets traded to SCAT 1183 01:17:51,039 --> 01:17:55,119 and then explodes and you're like, Okay, he's playing for an All Star 1184 01:17:55,159 --> 01:17:59,359 team and he looked great, Okay, Like you would expect that, right, 1185 01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:01,600 So I think people were a little too high on him, like he's 1186 01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:06,000 obviously a good player and fantastic value for drafting him where they did in the 1187 01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:10,720 third round. But people need up cool down a little bit, like he's 1188 01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:14,319 not the next coming of Scott Needemeyer or anything like that. But yeah, 1189 01:18:14,359 --> 01:18:19,239 he definitely yeah, seems like a decent range, right. Lucas Cormier defenseman 1190 01:18:19,319 --> 01:18:24,479 for the Vegas goal of the Knights, Victor's number seventeen defenseman four points in 1191 01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:28,600 twelve games so far in the AHL. Vegas has a crowded roster. I 1192 01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:34,119 always talk though about how Vegas's salary issues mean that a productive rookie might get 1193 01:18:34,159 --> 01:18:38,960 a shot in a way that some of the teams don't always give them. 1194 01:18:39,359 --> 01:18:43,239 Lucas Cormier, what is your opinion on him? David? I think it's 1195 01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:46,000 he's a huge or red flag. If there's a long player on this list 1196 01:18:46,039 --> 01:18:49,520 that I would really insist on became careful with. It's like he has some 1197 01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:54,319 massive skating issues, like he's very agile laterally, but he has no speed. 1198 01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:57,399 It's a real problem. And he's a smaller player, and with the 1199 01:18:57,560 --> 01:19:00,960 Vegas style of play, I don't think he's going to see NHL unless they 1200 01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:04,359 need like a powerplay quarterback in a weird series of event or they don't have 1201 01:19:04,359 --> 01:19:09,359 anyone for that spot. He produced a lot in the AHL last year at 1202 01:19:09,399 --> 01:19:13,279 the start of the year, and he's very dynamic in the way he thinks 1203 01:19:13,279 --> 01:19:16,560 the game and the plays he can make sometimes. But he doesn't have an 1204 01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:20,640 HL package and he never really has, and he's a third rounder, so 1205 01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:24,359 he doesn't have a great status around the league. I'm not sure there's going 1206 01:19:24,399 --> 01:19:27,920 to be much interest in terms of straight for him either. So yeah, 1207 01:19:28,079 --> 01:19:30,319 just be careful about him, Like I would be surprised if he plays in 1208 01:19:30,359 --> 01:19:33,159 the league for for a while, and even more if he gets a power 1209 01:19:33,159 --> 01:19:40,079 play one on the spot. Okay, I'm sending all my trade offers getting 1210 01:19:40,159 --> 01:19:44,319 rid of my Lucas Cormier shares based on No, I'm just kidding. Yeah, 1211 01:19:44,399 --> 01:19:47,840 No, he definitely has. He's that volatility factor. He always knew 1212 01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:49,960 that, especially coming out of the queue, like he was great, but 1213 01:19:50,039 --> 01:19:54,000 you knew that there were issues with his game. But yeah, like you 1214 01:19:54,039 --> 01:19:58,359 said, if they can shelter him, if he can bring some things along, 1215 01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:03,039 if maybe there's a lot of conditions to the success story that you're trying 1216 01:20:03,079 --> 01:20:06,680 to write for Lucas Cormier. But the reason he is where he is because 1217 01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:10,800 if it does work out, it'll be great because he'll be in the offensive 1218 01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:14,720 role. He'll be on a good team. As Jesse mentioned, contract wise, 1219 01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:16,920 they may be forced to give him a role because they just have depleted 1220 01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:20,880 assets. So there's that question as well. It probably won't happen, but 1221 01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:24,960 if it does, then it'll be it'll be fun for you. Yeah, 1222 01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:28,479 he's a bit like it Kyleen Addison in a way that skating is a notch 1223 01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:31,720 billo. So we'll see. Yeah, you got about five hours before this 1224 01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:35,640 episode drops. Victory, better move it on those trade offers and don't send 1225 01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:42,720 them my way. Every Thrun defenseman San Jose sharks Victor's number nineteen. Anyone 1226 01:20:43,039 --> 01:20:47,159 noticed that every one of the Victor over David prospects is a Western Conference prospect 1227 01:20:47,199 --> 01:20:53,319 West Coast bias. I say the Grand Admiral Thrun spent a college career at 1228 01:20:53,359 --> 01:20:57,399 Harvard ending as the captain and is now going between the two teams in San 1229 01:20:57,479 --> 01:21:00,920 Jose, the Sharks and the Barracuda. Three points in eight games so far 1230 01:21:00,039 --> 01:21:04,640 for the Sharks. Henry Thrun. What's your take, David, I don't 1231 01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:08,319 know him as well as other prospects. I know a lot of these prospects. 1232 01:21:08,319 --> 01:21:11,159 I haven't watched a lot of drawn but from my perspecsion of him, 1233 01:21:11,159 --> 01:21:14,319 from what I saw, he's more of a defensive defenseman than an offensive one. 1234 01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:17,000 And the time I watched him the most was in his draft here and 1235 01:21:17,039 --> 01:21:21,199 a bit in college some HL games. The way he skates, in the 1236 01:21:21,239 --> 01:21:25,319 way he thinks the game, it's more like, say safety first. I 1237 01:21:25,359 --> 01:21:29,640 think so in terms of upside and fantasy, I think there might be some 1238 01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:31,920 issues there, but he's going to play minutes in the NHL. It's just 1239 01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:36,560 I'm not sure he's going to bring the firepower with him. No, I 1240 01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:41,199 don't think he will. Part of that was definitely based on they didn't really 1241 01:21:41,239 --> 01:21:45,079 have any other options offensively, but now they have Kialan Addison and Shakira Mucammadolan. 1242 01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:48,960 None of these are really great defensemen. Like all around, I think 1243 01:21:49,359 --> 01:21:54,920 Macamadolan and Doron are probably better, like you said, two way guys who 1244 01:21:54,960 --> 01:22:00,439 can play. Dron definitely has some skating issues but can do some other aspects. 1245 01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:02,279 But now with Addison here, I doubt that he gets much of an 1246 01:22:02,319 --> 01:22:08,319 opportunity. Unless Addison completely flames out and doesn't really do what people hope he 1247 01:22:08,359 --> 01:22:11,640 will, then maybe Thrown gets another opportunity later in the year or next year. 1248 01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:15,119 But San Jose, part of this is they don't really have that clear 1249 01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:18,359 pedigree guy who is absolutely going to run the power play for the next several 1250 01:22:18,399 --> 01:22:21,960 years, So you're just looking at, okay, who might do it, 1251 01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:26,359 and he might. He does have a lot of perferal coverage, which is 1252 01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:30,079 nice for throwing. So in terms of a high floor for fantasy that is 1253 01:22:30,119 --> 01:22:32,399 something to think about. One reason why I like him, And if you 1254 01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:38,359 sort by like fantasy points in Fantasy League's Thrown is someone who's still up there 1255 01:22:38,399 --> 01:22:41,279 because the few games that he played he did great and then they sent them 1256 01:22:41,319 --> 01:22:45,399 down to the HL. But yeah, it's not a super high upside. 1257 01:22:45,399 --> 01:22:47,439 I would say, Okay, well, this has been a treat. We've 1258 01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:53,079 gone through a lot of cool prospects. David, You've got some stuff going 1259 01:22:53,079 --> 01:22:55,359 on out there. Why don't you let people know where they can follow your 1260 01:22:55,359 --> 01:23:02,079 work. Yeah, my twitter is that did under that st underscore. I 1261 01:23:02,199 --> 01:23:04,880 just changed it a couple of years ago and I still haven't memorized it. 1262 01:23:05,199 --> 01:23:10,199 And you can find my work on eperioding. Sorry, and then the Pictoris 1263 01:23:10,239 --> 01:23:15,560 too. I'm writing currently about saying I have a video on our YouTube channel 1264 01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:17,720 for unknown him too, I think a bit later this week, so you 1265 01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:20,960 can check out to check that out. And we're running some deals on our 1266 01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:28,439 website. I think now we can subscribe only for our thede editor side of 1267 01:23:28,479 --> 01:23:30,399 the site, so if you want to read our work you can do that 1268 01:23:30,399 --> 01:23:35,960 too. Tremendous, Thank you David, and everybody should go out and follow 1269 01:23:36,039 --> 01:23:41,600 him and appreciate you coming on today. Yeah, it's been great. It's 1270 01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:54,680 been really fun. I love talking about those players. Thank you. A 1271 01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:58,199 couple more things to mention before we get out of here today. One of 1272 01:23:58,239 --> 01:24:00,479 them is we're brought to you by fan You can move your links over to 1273 01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:03,680 fan tracks. You can ask them to help you out start new ones. 1274 01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:08,920 They got the most options, scoring salaries, contracts, rookie eligibility. You 1275 01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:12,359 can start up your leaks the day after the season ends. I know a 1276 01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:15,720 number of you are playing with us right now. Next year, I'm sure 1277 01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:18,359 you'll play even more leagues there, because frankly, I try to get all 1278 01:24:18,399 --> 01:24:23,079 of mine clustered over there at this point. Even a good chat feature you 1279 01:24:23,199 --> 01:24:26,560 send a trade offer and there's a specific little chat you can go back and 1280 01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:30,079 forth with no more of trying to figure out sending emails or everything is you 1281 01:24:30,119 --> 01:24:33,319 got to decline the offer to send something. It's really neat. You should 1282 01:24:33,359 --> 01:24:38,600 check it out. Fantracks hq has a lot of fantasy content. There's articles 1283 01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:44,000 on fantasy hockey, all the other fantasy sports going on over there. There's 1284 01:24:44,039 --> 01:24:47,760 also a podcast, we're the Hockey podcast right now, although there's some affiliation 1285 01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:53,239 going on. There are other podcasts that show up there. We'd like to 1286 01:24:53,239 --> 01:24:57,800 thank our entire FHL crew. It's not just Victor and I anymore. We've 1287 01:24:57,800 --> 01:25:01,079 got content curator Kevin Adams who's been helping out with show prep for many of 1288 01:25:01,119 --> 01:25:05,840 our shows. Ryan Downey, the tidy Admiral who helps commission all the tiered 1289 01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:09,920 Dynasty leagues, which is a heck of a lot of work. Boy, 1290 01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:13,920 Ryan is saving our Bacon this year. Brandon is our website guru. He's 1291 01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:16,520 doing a fantastic job. There's a lot of cool stuff coming in the Fantasy 1292 01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:20,880 Hockey Life website. Jeremy Vee our lead scout. You've heard him on this 1293 01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:27,479 show. He does good work coordinating everything from our scouting team. Jason helps 1294 01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:30,439 with our prospect ranks. Good things coming in that area, and you've heard 1295 01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:35,399 some of the results on this show. Paul assisting with workflow and processes. 1296 01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:39,520 And if you have some skills you'd like to lend the show. Hit Victor 1297 01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:43,359 up in the discord, email or Twitter. We are brought to you by 1298 01:25:43,399 --> 01:25:47,039 Dabra Hockey Dauber Prospects. Victor is an editor there. He can follow his 1299 01:25:47,119 --> 01:25:51,359 work there as well as his other podcast, Dauber Prospects Report with Peter Harlan. 1300 01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:56,720 I do a solo show, Dynasty Sports Life. I talk for different 1301 01:25:56,800 --> 01:26:01,600 Dynasty Sports sometimes multiple at the same time. Time. Tomorrow's or Tuesday's episode 1302 01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:06,359 that's coming out will be about some baseball prospects from the Arizona Fall League. 1303 01:26:08,279 --> 01:26:12,039 It'll be a good one talking about some guys on the baseballs. You like 1304 01:26:12,119 --> 01:26:15,680 prospect talk. 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