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support and enjoy. It's you. It's me. You uh looks a little
different than I remember, but it's definitely you. Oh something like that,
not quite. I've never met you before. Would you like a drink?
Just one? You can have as many as you like. Yes, he'll
start with the person one. Then there's already a glass sitting across from me,
and I'm facing the stairway as if I've been waiting for you and I
have one myself. Was there a chair set up for me? Were we
sitting at a table or yeah, a round table. Any other chairs that
may have been here are probably pushed away, so it's just the two.
It's not a big table though, like a cocktail sized table. H mm
hmm. I walk over and I grab the drink. I uh, we'll
pick it up, smell it. You know exactly what drink it is.
H that's a neat trick, by the way, that's a funny word trick.
You're going to be a magician. Hide your secrets and how you did
it? You're gonna tell me. I sit down, please, m I
don't mind sharing, If you don't mind sharing, I have a couple of
questions of my own. Well, you know who I am and what I
do, so but not why. We don't take it as rude if I
decline to answer. You can, of course decline to answer, but so
can I. It's just curiosity. I know what you are. I know
who you are, I know what you do, but not why? Why
did you join the LAPD? Huh? I see I asked my question first,
fair enough ask away? How did you make a drink that so closely
may make my memory? That's what I do. That's my job. I'm
a memory engineer. Okay, I suppose we're doing different tat it's your turn.
Why did you join the LAPD? Well that's a long answer, but
I'm assuming you want to know if I joined the LAPD in relation to not
you? Yes, answer that would be yes. Actually, not a lot
of people know this. I applied to Tyrrell first. I know I read
your application. I personally declined it. You know, back then I said,
if I found the person who declined it. I'd have some words for
him, I'm all yours. I've since forgotten them. But that put me
on the path coming an l A p D. Blade Runner, because I've
figure to be the best way to get any sort of information, a lead,
anything to prove that what I lived was not some dream. And then
along the way, somewhere while I was searching, while I was searching,
sort of got good at the job, and I kind of forgot the search.
Not to get to the war about this, but all the tin joints
in all the world you had to walk into this one. Are you angry
at her? I was not anymore? What changed? I grew up,
and there was a whole matter of wondering if that whole thing was just a
lie. I had never heard of. I had never heard of a child
replicant before or since till now. Of course, anytime I even dared to
bring it up, which was very, very seldom, everybody looked at me
like I was crazy. So I thought maybe I was. I thought maybe
I just met a little girl who had a fantasy, said she was replicant,
said she was moved, so it just said she was going to die.
Soon started thinking maybe it was just a little girl who was a compulsive
liar. She just moved away. Was the easiest way that she could or
the kindest thing that she could tell me, is that she wasn't going to
be alive anymore. So don't go looking for me something. Do you consider
that an act of kindness? Didn't that? And yet? But you spent
your entire career. Look, you applied to Tyrrell, then the LAPD,
So clearly you didn't believe that, not even for a second. I didn't
believe one hundred percent of the way one way or the other. But if
you ever read any mystery novels I read a bunch, the solution is and
what stays with you? That's the question. The question will motivate you,
will drive you. And your question was was it real? Bingo? That
is my goal with my job to get that question. So you're gonna answer
my question, the big question, one I think I already know the answer
to, but I want to hear you say it was it real? I
take a sip from my drink. I guess that depends on your definition of
real. Skiff. Did it happen yes? Did it happen to me?
Yes? It happened to you. Are you struggling with your identity right now?
Skiff? No, I know who I am. But the thing is,
it doesn't matter if I know it. I mean, we could all
be living in a computer simulation. This is philosophical stuff that I uh,
I'm trying to think too hard about, just saying, if you can mess
with memories, why not mine? Maybe one day. It's not really my
focus at the moment. What is it your focus at the moment? The
future of the n eights. I don't work for time anymore, I guess
that. Yeah, what are you calling yourselves? I work for Wallace.
Have you heard of us? Yeah? I know who Wallace is when we
specialize in patents at the moment, but probably in a few years we're going
to solve the food crisis. Oh yeah, yes. And my singular drive
is to push Tyrell underground and then buy everything myself. Maybe the first question
I should ask that just came up to me right now is who are you?
And if you say that's a complicated answer, it's not complicated. My
name's Nara Anderson. Was sorry to say that again. My name's Nara Anderson.
I worked for Tyrrell for most of my career and then got a job
offer I couldn't refuse, not to be cliche, and they picked you for
the model for the the Vonna series or whatever you called it. Technically my
mother but yes, so you're saying more than you a little girl that I
knew when I was a little boy was a copy of your mother. Yes,
genetically. Anyway, I'm also a copy of my mother genetically. She
didn't birth me in the traditional sense. Did you have a daddy? Or
was it just all her? Just all her and some other things she liked
and a few she didn't. Takes a vicious kind of a woman to set
you up to be lesser than how much of her is you? Do you
have her any of her memories or anything like that, or it's just all
Biology is the same. Biology is the same. Although I did work on
the project, I did research, and I know everything that she experienced.
She never lied to us before you. Did she pick me? Or was
that random to be her her little replicants test subject? Skiff, You weren't
a test subject? How was I? Then she fell in love. She
started hiding things, hiding you, lying to us about where she was,
acting like a real teenager. It's perfect what happened to her. She was
retired, so she wasn't lying about that. We had a hard time solving
the lifespan issue until recently, as you know. So now the question asks
you the present, now that we've dusted off our photo albums, all right,
why am I here? Now? Why are you here? Now?
You know what mystery? If i'd follow wherever? Well, why do you
let me pull on that thread? You wanted me here? I wonder if
you'll help us, help her, helps us Wallace and your objective is to
put Tyrell on the ground. That's right, said, that's right? Why
so we can change things? Wow, I'm sure power is actually the answer
to that. Power money want to change things like the new law? Yes,
eventually, not yet though right now it's doing us a favor getting rid
of all the old models to make way for the Wallace models. Is that
what I'm hearing? Tyrell is on track to go out of business in the
next year and a half. It's the fastest way to get it done.
So once Tyrell's bankrupt, out of business, whatever, Yes, get the
law repealed. That's the plan. You are good at your job. I
think I realized a long time ago. That, Oh, I believe.
So, I'm very confident that Wallace Corporation will be able to get that done.
Well, you're in world hunger. I'm guessing there's some money in that.
If you want to earn someone's trust, you have to ask them for
a favor. Did you know that? Even a small one? Maybe none
those words, but I see where you're going. I'm under no illusions as
the way the world is going to run, Skiff. It's going to be
run by a corporation one way or another, doesn't matter which one. The
rich are going to stay rich. But I do think I can use that
to my advantage to enact the change that I want to make. And I
want my children to have rights and to one day be seen as equals one
day maybe even be on the police force themselves. Why does sum orn to
you? Because it's the progress of humanity. It's the same thing as my
birth. I wasn't created traditionally, not even going to say naturally traditionally.
The only difference is that replicants are created usually as adults. They don't go
through the growing in the aging process, and there are some key changes strength
smarts, but there is no difference. Otherwise, everything that they experience is
the same as what we experience. I'm a parent, not an engineer.
Well, in the course of human history, when there's a stronger and smarter
group of people, what happens to the other ones? Eventually? Probably it
won't be in your time? So why worry about it? Just because I
won't see something bad happen doesn't mean I won't try to stop it. And
what makes it bad? You're talking about the eventual extinction of the human race.
No, I'm talking about advancing the human race. This is our natural
advancement. But they wouldn't be human, would they? What makes them not
human? Skiff? What makes someone human? If my mother could choose blue
eyes for me instead of green anemia, how's that different from extra strong?
How is that different from let's make our skin different so that we can survive
in horrific conditions in outer space? Is that not evolution? Are we not
just smart enough to choose which way we're going to evolve? Why wouldn't we
push ourselves forward? I kind of think talk about bettering and you know,
evolving. I kind of think you're stopping the evolution in every process because evolution
is a chance. Sure we'll get some some weak minded folks, but we
also get geniuses. If you engineer everybody, you'll get all good but no
great. I think if we engineer, if we create what we want to
create, and we find the things we want to push forward, such as
say strength, we'll start there, how does that change the chance factor of
anything else. That's not stopping evolution from happening. It's just changing the direction,
nudging it along. Focus on our strength. Nature will find a way
to give us weaknesses or just speeding up the process. And just because someone
is engineered a certain way, specifically tailored to be a certain type of individual,
doesn't mean it's guaranteed. Hell, you could have a replicant who's not
supposed to fall in love with a little boy fall in love. So let
me ask you this. When in the far far future it's just engineered humans
and they make a better one, you guys just go okay, walk off
cliff like lemmings. You guys are better. Yes, yes, we'll get
out of here. We don't do that now, why would we do that?
Then? I don't jump off a cliff. If I see somebody smarter
in the office, I go that's very clever. Let's work together. Well,
you're talking about replacing humanity, I'm just taking it the next step,
replacing the replacers. I'm not talking about replacement. What are you talking about
that? That's what I'm here, simple advancement. We are the same,
maybe some minor adjustments into certain models of replicants, but also that's Tyrell.
I think unlocking the age limitation so that they can experience a real, full,
rich life will make a huge difference. And the rest of it is
just setting up your child for success. What's the difference between choosing strength or
skin that can withstand acid when you know that they're going to be sent out
to a mining colony. What's the difference between choosing something like that and making
sure your child gets an education. At the end of the day, we're
all playing god, what's my pardon this? Help us take down Tyroll for
good and don't let the lapd slaughter all of my children. How would we
tell the difference between your children and the ones you want on They are all
my children. So you're asking me not to kill any more revenants, not
indiscriminately. I guess shriek them the same as any other criminal. If you're
hunting down a murderer, hunt down a murderer, but don't hunt somebody down
just because they're a replicant m How would I help you? Are you wearing
a wire always? I wait, I'm guessing you want this next part to
be between just us. Preferably you never know who listening. Don't take my
earpiece out, put it on the table and cap it. Slide it over
just us. I need help getting back into Tyrell. They have begun a
program, and I need the information for the program. What program? The
Blade Runner program? I have reason to believe that Tyrell already has Innate's working
at the LAPD. I want to know who is working with Tyrrell to do
that. So you're looking for a mole. That's right, funny you should
say that we're trying to hunt one of those bastards down right now? Is
that a yes? I don't think I'm gonna agree or disagree with anything just
yet. I figured as much. My brain works slow. I gotta mull
this over. But I do got to know. Were you just betting on
the fact that I wouldn't retire you right now? Bet is probably too much
credit. I was just curious there was a chance. But if I put
anybody else in this room, if I sent a messenger and it's not real,
I am asking you for help, and it is real. Well,
even if I was all kung ho about your plan for helping you, how
the hell do you think I'm going to convince my partners you must have done
your research. You know they think about replicants, how many they put down.
They either will or they won't. So they're asking me to put my
ass on the line for someone I barely know for what do you think it's
morally right for me to do this, regardless of my plans for the future.
We created these replicants. We gave them life, we gave them memory,
we gave them feeling. They're here now. It's not something we can
take back. Eradicating them simply for what they are is morally wrong. That
would be the same as killing every single redhead because they had red hair,
or every athlete that was faster or stronger without training. Sphere afraid of progress,
afraid of being defeated or eradicated ourselves. This is a question that's I
just want to get your opinion on it, all right, how close to
human can you get I still not be human close to human? Can I
get them to be without being human? In anything? It is a hypothetical
situation. Say you're creating a robot, just a straight robot with wires,
no consciousness, anything like that, right, and keep adding little bits,
a little bits, a little bits to making more human. When do they
become human? When are they still a robot when they say to you with
their own mouth, I'm human. When they can recognize their existence and identify
as human. I think that's where you and I differ. Then these aren't
robots, skiff. These are beings made of the same genetic material as you
or me. What makes me human versus a replicant? I was created in
a lab. The only difference I can see is that I experienced my memories
firsthand as I was growing. Replicants start later on in life, so I
have to give them a head start. Oh what happens if I'm using memories
I genuinely experienced growing up, or Vagnya's memories of her experiences with you,
those were real. What makes that person of flesh and blood not human?
Is it the fact that they were created? Some would argue that you are
created by some omnipotent god. What's the difference. Well, that's been the
question for ages. Am I real? You reel in this real human not
human covityer go sum I think? Therefore I am. I think it's above
my above my pay grade, and too smart a thinking for me. Let
us your point. I have to tell you something that may change your mind,
but it's the right thing to do. The memories that you shared with
your vagna model, they made for a very realistic memory of a first love,
and I use them. Multiple models happen. A lot of the replicant
underground models happened. So you took our memories put them in a bunch of
other replicants. That's right, that's what I do. I engineer a life.
I'm a writer. Obviously they're not absolutely identical, but you and I
probably have some common memory from our childhood, some shared experience. It's the
same. It's not your name or your face, but it is the way
she felt about you, and I didn't want you to get confused should you
meet one. So is it strange that my first thought was there's a whole
army of replicans out there that are in some deep level in love with me.
It's not strange, But again, it's not you specifically, Skiff,
names and details have been changed. Don't sue me. Most of my work
revolves around my own life, with adjustments or stories people have told me about
their lives, which is exactly what a writer does, pulls from their own
life experience or the experience of those around them. But I have noticed the
most success when I'm using things that I felt I experienced firsthand, and I
don't know why that is. You know, it's very difficult. When I
first started doing this, I was very detailed. I made sure to include
eye color, the way the skin felt, smells, sounds, tastes to
all of it. Everything that didn't work as well as the human mind forgets
over time, you have to purposely leave things blank, and then it feels
real. What are you purposely leaving blank? Skift? You know, I
like your vision for the future. I like the idea of humans and replicants
evolving side by side. Do you really think that that can happen? Yes,
one of us has gotta go. No, I absolutely think that can
happen. It's already happening. They live here among us. Give them the
ability to do what we do reproduction, it'll happen. But if we fear
them, if we rush to eradicate them simply for existing, then we are
doing nothing but ensuring our own extinction. We are building the future we fear,
and I refuse to do that. Not every human is a good one,
not every replicant will be a good one, but there will be some,
and hopefully there will be many, and hopefully there will be many good
of us as well. I mean, it all sounds great. I remember
a story of a very smart, brilliant scientists who created life bigger, stronger
that life ended up killing him. Are you quoting Jurassic Park at Miskift?
A little older than that? I was actually talking about Frankenstein and why didn't
that work out? Because he did it in secret and everyone was afraid.
Maybe will you do me the favor of letting me know your decision before sending
the LAPD to ransack this place? Well, that'll have to be your mystery.
I stand up, finish my drink, goodbye, skiff, see you
around, and I may turn around and h yeah, I just need to
use the bathroom. Okay, I'll just I'll just be a minute. Do
you all lose the conversation when I did, Yeah, I don't know about
it. I think there's something wrong with your with your yeah fix it?
Uh, I don't should I I don't know if I should go in doing
I'm trying. Last thing I heard was something about uh Wallace, and I
mean it sounded like the implication was that that they wanted to talk alone.
Narrator, Did we hear everything that that Skiff just heard? Or I'm actually
gonna ask Skiff and I meant to, I just didn't want to interrupt the
role play because it was so juicy. Skiff, did you actually turn it
off? Yeah? Yep. Okay, So then the last thing you heard
was her say, are you wearing a wire? And he said, I
suppose you want me to turn this off? And she said, you never
know who's listening, and then it went you heard the like shuffling in the
clothing as he took it off and put it down. Okay, so we
heard everything else, everything else up until that point you heard, Yes,
that is correct. So during that time period, and I guess for for
now we would have been sitting on moving forward with the whole mole thing,
just to make sure, yes, that is correct. Sure, that we're
all on this okay, okay, we're all still in my office, right,
yeah? I give three? And is the scene? That's right?
I like your dream? Okay? Right? Yeah, Well, what do
you think should we do it? Shall we wait? I don't know.
I feel like we've got to wait until we get more information here. Yeah,
I don't know. There's got to be some kind of yeah. And
I I look down at the paper that saw your head written the big tea
on and I tap it and I go, yeah, I think I think
we need more information. Alan, Yeah, you gotta find him, right,
radio silence like that, it's not okay? What do I do when
I find them? Hold him out and let me know saying you do?
So we could go forward on this, Roger all right, Sawyer get ready,
Selma you good, I'm good. What I want to know is are
we going to bring any of this holding any time soon? Oh? Yet?
We don't know enough and this feels dangerous. He was already very clear
with Galen about not wanting to be involved with what we're about to do.
So I think we should just move on and do what we need to do.
Go from there. Let's just hear back from our way to hear back
from Galen. Yeah, go ahead, a smoke break or something, have
a brief conversation outside somewhere, you know what. I'm down for that.
Oh actually, you know what, we could go grab a coffee real quick.
Yeah. Yeah, radio sounds really good. Yeah all right, that
sounds yeah, that sounds great. Yeah. I'm to get up, get
up and not kind of shuffle out. Okay, time for the caffeine hit
as it were. I just say that real loudly, not the not the
Vendom machines one on the streets better. Oh yeah, no, yeah,
yeah, probably could be lying to the elevators. Yep. Can I imagine
you're quiet all the way down in the elevator as we hear the advertisements from
White Stop and everything else playing in the background. Uh. Actually, I'm
noticing there's like a it's like a lady bug or something or maybe I can't
tell, some kind of thing in one of the fluorescent lights, and it's
it's trapped up there. And then I noticed that there's just a bunch of
other bugs in it, Like it must just speak some kind of like death
like graveyard for all these bugs, and like somebody should clean that at some
point. M I'm a nervous, fidgety mess all the way down, all
the way down the street level, I'm about as still as a statue until
the doors open up at the bottom. I don't waste any time walking with
big strides. Yep, to get outside, I'm a sure stride. I
think as soon as we're outside on the street, probably just start walking in
a direction still quiet for a block or so, listening and waiting to hear
anything from Galen. Do we hear anything before we get a block away from
the station? That is, oh from the station or from Galen? Know
what I'm saying is we're walking. I want to walk about a block away
from the station. I want that much distance in between during that time of
walking. Do we hear anything from Galen? Excuse me? Yeah, I'm
just so eager to get back out on the dance floor. Ooh, I
love that dress. It really accentuates your eyes. I think he's going to
be busy for a while. Yeah, all right, the second that we
have an opportunity to do that little scramble, Oh yeah, absolutely, you
guys are in charge of the narrative. Absolutely, you scramble the area.
I take the other two aside and say, I'm being set up as we
speak. They're trying to pin it on me. Okay, what do you
need? Every terminals, every terminal in the LAPD is currently hooked up to
look like it's coming directly to my terminal, as if I'm the one monitoring
everyone's activity. Okay, what should we do this? How do we reroute
it? I think I can track it or at least figured out who did
it to my terminal, but I'm gonna have to be at my terminal in
order to do it. Okay, how soon? Now the second we go
ahead with this, I'm honestly not sure what the play is right here,
Sawyer. I'm gonna be honest with you. I don't know you all right
now, and I'm again and I look over at someone. Now we're partners.
That means something to me, and you trust Sawyer? And then I
look back to Sawyer, just dead in the eye. I do. And
You're saying everything's pointing at you. That's someone set it up to look like
that. Yes, and we don't know who is pointing it at you.
No, but maybe I can figure out pot tampered with my system, But
I would need to be at my own terminal in order to do it,
or at least that'd be the most efficient way to do it. So you
want to be separated when we actually get this moving, I would rather not
be too far from either of you personally. I am I am going to
trust that it is not you, Sawyer, all right, but I will
kill you if it is. And I need you to understand how serious I
am. So okay, I need you to watch everything that Sawyer does and
that there's nothing being fucked with. And I'm sorry, Sawyer, but this
is very important. You know that. But this involves your life in so
many different ways. I'm not trying to fuck you over. I'm not going
to pain anything that you didn't do on you, but if you with the
technical know how that you have, I can't follow that. I am taking
you at your word. I can trust Selma, and I'm trusting you to
watch you. With that being said, I will protect you. I won't
let anyone come after you as long as you'll be honest and it's not you.
I need you to understand that I will be watching you. Bob,
I hear you. If anything happens with Sawyer. I feel like that's also
accountability here on my part. Absolutely, it will be. I've known Soyer
for a very long time. I trust I trust him. I don't think
that there's anything that we have to worry about. No, I understand that
I do. But I'm not the sort of person that dances around shit.
Okay, I get it. I don't play subterfuse. I don't work in
between things. I only know what I know, and I react for that.
As of right now, Sawyer, I don't think you're the mole,
and you were quick to tell us that you have a lot of things pointed
at you should be easy enough from your expertise to track that down. Is
that right? Do you think you can figure that out? Either? Pointing
this at you, who do I think it is? No, you can
figure that out. That's what I'm asking you. Believe that you can figure
it out. I think from my terminal, at the very least, I
can figure out all right who the likely suspects are that have tampered with my
system, and from there, because it's all being routed through there, when
we kick the hornet's nest, I should be able to figure out if it's
being routed anywhere else before it goes to Terrell, whether that's another terminal in
the building or another building entirely. But there's got to be some kind of
middle ground. It can't just go straight to Tyrrell's. It's too direct.
It's not safe enough for them. George, all right, all right,
Well, if you found what you found already, then that means to some
degree they're onto you. I don't know to what level, but if they're
trying to pile things in your direction, then you're being watched, and us
being there and leaving was seen. I don't see how there's any other likelihood.
So we're on the clock, and we need to get back to your
terminal now, Yeah, okay, let's go. Oh I'm just gonna grab
a coffee real fast e Just give me a second, fellas, Can I
just get the black to go? Yeah? We should get another piece.
I'll take one. It's this journey mine. Yeah, all right, we
are we're heading back. Did you did you pick up that conversation about we're
heading to Slawyer's terminal? Roger, Okay, destiny, deception, dreams and
the door slides. I'm guessing where probably there you go. I'm staying right
there in front of you. Hey, Jake, that's trick. I'm going
to look around and see if anybody is nearby. Nope, you're in the
hallway. The door has kind of reappeared closed that he walked down those stairs,
and I don't see this person that he was talking to. She was
down the flight of stairs. But yeah, so he walked through the door
then closed itself, and now you guys are in this hallway alone. You
want to tell me what's going on? I do right now? I could
really use a slice spie. You want to join me? All right?
You lead the way, M and I start walking out of the club.
Yeah, maybe we can dance another time. I come here all the time.
I wait from outside, because of course we're leaving separately. I wait
from a couple like where we came from a couple of blocks away. So,
uh, how did we get here? Again? I can't remember?
Do we take out? I think I took my ride. I believe that
you did, Okay, did you or did you get a cab or something?
I think you and I arrived together, but I cannot remember. Okay,
so then I'll just wait for you at the Spinner. Then, yeah,
I think it's fine to say that you both arrived together and then split
up and went in differently. If I remember quickly, you were speaking in
the car about how it was going to go down before you went in.
So yeah, that makes sense to me. As we're walking away, I
will contact the rest of the group. I've got scares. Alright, we're
onna way back to the spinner right now. We're uh gonna get some pie
if you wanna join us, We're uh else we're about to initiate our side
of things. Are you saying we shouldn't no do what you're gonna do?
That's gonna wait alright, hod later. My hand has been near my weapon
the whole time as we've been walking. Is there a yeah, observation?
I just want to know if I see that I'm not trying to draw attention.
Would this be a stealth role for me? I don't know if you
just want to do contested or yeah, let's just do contested stealth versus observation
eight A zero pal, Are you going to push? No? Okay,
it's one success from me. Then I don't notice you do that. Let's
give what the hell happened? Well, you heard most of the most of
the juicy parts. She wants me to help bring down the Tyrell Corporation.
She wants me to smooth the way, and she wants to find the mole.
I think the same mole we're looking for. Who Vanya No, just
looked like her? It's uh clone. Apparently the one I knew m from
my childhood was a replicant person. I talked to the clone of her mother
and a specialist, an expert in the construction and implantation of memory. So
it's true, then they can just put what they can, just take memories
and put them in in replicans. If what she's saying is true, then
you you want another real kick in the nuts. The memory, at least
some of them, or in some form my childhood and falling in love.
She took that from Vonn yet and put it in another replicants, a lot
of other ones, apparently not the exact memory, but more so the feeling.
So oh, it's hard to wrap my brain around. But in some
way I'm responsible for teaching replicants what love is. You're not responsible for anything,
Skiff. That wasn't your choice, was it? No? That doesn't
mean I didn't have a hand in it. I thought I'd be mad they
stole memories from that period of my life, and what to kids share.
This isn't a movie, Skiff. They used you. She used you.
Yeah, and believe me, Skiff, I know I don't feel used,
though she did use me, but I don't feel it. If I had
to describe the feeling I have right now, it's grateful that someone out there,
at least is trying to give these replicants compassion. They're not just strength
and wit and mind. And uh, I was gonna save this for Pie,
this whole conversation. I wanted to have it with all the all the
others mhm, but they're busy and I don't want to distract them. So
of all the people, it's you, the one person I didn't think I
would find myself with. But and I opened my like I take my Oh,
actually, I'm not worrying a jack can take my my the side of
my shirt up and I make sure to look at Galen and I grab the
gun with two fingers my my side arm. I grab it with two fingers
real slowly, what are you doing? And I grab my uh my blade
runner badge, Skiff, what are you doing? I hold them out for
you. I don't want that. I set them on the top of the
spinner, Galen. It used to be simple for me. Good guys,
bad guys, human replicant. I just sat in something in front of someone
saying the same or at least they're becoming so close to be indistinguishable, and
I find myself agreeing or at least questioning if that can be now. Partners
mean something to me. I said that to each of you, and I
meant it. But that means I can't be your partner, any of your
partners anymore, because what was once one hundred percent solid in my mind is
no longer so, and I wouldn't want someone like that back me up.
I'm not going to turn on you, but I'm also not going to actively
participate in what maybe murder or near enough to it. Sorry, before I
went in, I didn't know how i'd react or what would happen. But
I don't see any winners. I only see losers. I don't want any
heart of it. Skiff, Have you really thought about this what you're doing?
Part of may has been thinking about it my whole life. That's sitting
there, seeing my memory talking to me, or at least close to I
told me that I didn't make it up. I'm not insane. All that
actually happened, and all the reasons came flooding back. Why I eventually got
this job because I'm I'm not sure if I had my piece turned on or
off at this point, but my first job that I tried to get was
to work for Tyrell, and the reason I did that was to find her.
When that failed, the next best thing to get closer to my answer
is to become a blade runner. And then I love the job because it
was right. I'm wrong. People talk about a gray area a lot,
but in the middle of that gray area, there's a line never crossed it.
I'm not gonna start out. We don't have to kill them, Skiff.
We don't have to retire them and make sure to turn off communications.
Some always talked about retiring nine replicans. I've never retired one, Skiff.
I don't want to be a murderer. I'm trying to bring them in.
They still commit crimes, Skive. They still kill people, I know,
but the job is telling us that doesn't matter whether they've done something or not.
The job is now just to retire them all I problem. Then I
have problems with it. Now you say there's another way. Yeah, what
Lorenzo did that was inexcusable, blowing up a building so that you can run
away. I understand a fear of death, but that doesn't excuse a bomb.
That's the difference, Skiff. It doesn't matter what you're made of.
What matters is what you do. That's the difference. That's what we're here
to do. Don't be that person that kills without thinking. Don't be an
executioner. What your thought about joining the force, say lives do enforce justice.
That's a different story. So you're asking me to be a cop and
do the job, because that's the job. Kill no questions. You're saying
I could do that, saying you're willing to do that you've been How would
you like all this to shake out? This whole, this law, this
like ten years from now? What would you like to see? I know
what she wanted to see. She wanted to see idealistically if you ask me,
but she wanted to see humans and replicants living side by side, evolving
together. I personally don't think that's possible. I think one will try and
kill the other and probably succeed eventually, but she said, that's not set.
What do you think let's give I'm just a Vice cop. They put
me in this program after I lost my partner. One thing I learned on
Vice was that people are always just trying to get by, and I've never
had a problem with those people. It's the people that are hurting other people.
Those are the people I have a problem with. I don't know how
to make any distinctions between what's human and what's not, but I know somebody
using your memories, giving them to someone else and calling it what evolution.
I've never wanted to see all the replicants dead, Skiff, just the criminals
that deserve it. I don't know what kind of future we're looking at if
we have a corporate overlord. We basically had one with Tyrell for so long.
I don't really remember any different. But that's the things give We're all
different. They're taking things that exist from you and who knows who else,
and they're giving those memories to other people with out any consent from you.
Who knows how many people they've done that too. Well. They didn't take
my memories, it took hers. I was just there. I was just
lucky enough to be there. They manipulated you, Skiff, they manipulated you.
There's got to be a word for that, though, a word for
being manipulated, but kind of not minding. Do you ask me right now
if if I could stop them from taking her memory of us, but I
would also lose it. I let him have it every time, I wouldn't
these memories are mine? Painful or not? But that's your choice. I
guess. I don't know, Skiff. I don't know where we're headed,
but I know that everything that makes us different as people, everything that makes
us who we are, it's not the same. It's not the same.
What happens after these replicants are given life, it's not the same. They're
starting with a foundation of our memories or whoever's memories, and they will never
know there's a set number of them. We've already seen three Lorenzos. How
many Vonyas are their? Skiff, no idea. I wonder if they know
a good question. And that's the problem right there, So let me ask
you. Our job says kill replicants on site or on knowledge of them being
there. We find one that's doing something wrong, but nothing you would kill
a person for, say, shoplifting. Do we arrest them, we do
that they're dead anyway, Do we let them all go? No? We
treat them just like we treat anybody else. I know right now doesn't feel
like it feels like taking them to an executioner, because you know, once
they arrest them, they vcam they're done. Will it be that way forever?
Though, I'm just saying, if you arrest someone does a good chance
arrest a replicant, there's a good chance that you're a party to their death.
I'm not the executioner, though, Skiff, Wen, you're not getting
a responsibility for your part in bringing them in. No, Skiff, this
is different. When you pull the trigger, you make the decision, you
say this person will no longer live. I decide we've been given that power.
That doesn't mean that we should use it. Sounds a like to me,
you're pushing someone off a cliff and going the river killed him. They
could have lived. No, because when we go through the process, and
I shake my head as I say this, because I can't believe I'm saying
it. The whole reason that the law exists is to differentiate penalties for things
that people have done. If we bring them in. There is a chance
that we can convince someone and maybe get a law changed, But if we
kill them, there's no chance. I just don't see away from it to
be a clean cog in a dirty machine. So don't be. You follow
the law, and then with the law fails, we do something about it.
You're a good cop, gLing I'm a shit cop. Oh, you're
a good human, then I'm a piece of shit. I've manipulated a lot
of people's gift. I can't even tell if I'm doing it right now to
you. Hmm. If I just don't want to see you go, I
want to tell you what. H At the very least, I'm gonna go
ahead and give myself the rest of the night off. They're gonna want an
explanation. Oh, I don't think telling them I'm having to think is gonna
It's gonna fly, But it's truth. I just need to have a quiet
thing. Doesn't either that or I leave. I leave the job right now.
You you Galen, of all people, may have convinced me that's not
the right thing to do, and that makes you a good human. Or
do you want me to drop you. I'll find my own way. I
grabbed my badge and got off of the hood, open the spinner door,
throw it in the passenger seat. Whatever happens, you take care of Galen
surprised me? Man, same or God? I think it's so humid.
Yeah, ok yeah, I'm sweating unnecessarily. Are you sweating? I'm sweating.
It's not unnecessary. I need to focus. Okay, we're right your
terminal. You've got the tools you need. Look, this is a fairly
exposed place. Yeah, I'm trusting you, Selma. I need you to
be there, Sorrer needs it. I'm going to be watching for any movement
coming our way. Okay. And if I say we need to go,
we go. Okay you I don't know what you guys are going to do,
but as soon as I say go, we're going. Yeah, understood,
Yep. I'm gonna be right there. Okay, and I step into
a space where I get the most vision of the area we're in. How
are you doing? Not good? I'm checking everywhere inside my own office space.
I don't know if I have my own office space or if I time
share it with like another technician or something, or but I assume for now
it's unoccupied. This is a lot of time to use it, and I
can't help but put a cursory glance around for anything out of place that might
be a threat. Roll observation. Please, sorry, I'm still shook it.
Scene of events there just now, oil. You're so shock you rolled
it now one both times, which means you cannot push unfortunately when it's a
critical fail like that. Indeed, I am just too skittish. I'm too
consumed of what's happening. I have one of those Soviet happies. I mean,
if I have one of those Soviet happy he's left over from Galen,
I'm taking it right now. Yeah, go for it, all right.
I slam that pillback and settle down at the terminal and pretty much do what
I did at Selma's terminal, Okay, which is I need to approach it
from a stealthy position as possible, where I'm not where what I'm doing that
I choose what would be saying by monitoring software. That's sort of what I'm
trying to do. You gotten back into the LAPD and you're at your terminal.
You're not still making plans outside? Okay, No, we're back inside
now, I think, okay, and I I just to give an idea
of the floor that we're on. I know Salma had an office, but
I didn't know if Sawyer had won. I don't think Sawyer does. Again,
it's incredibly rare to have an office, so I imagine it's either you
know, time sharing, or you just have like a whole series of cubicles
with stacks and stacks of paper. Because remember they're trying to rebuild the database,
so you've got a bunch of tech workers back there that will just come
in at rin odd hours and they're plugging away at just data entry sort of
in a way. And Sawyers kind of in charge of building the database and
maintaining the new structure infrastructure of the database, not just data entry. So
yeah, I picture it as an office with two desks and anywhere between two
and four people can be working in here. We're all effectively working on the
same thing. Sometimes it can be too many cooks in the kitchen, so
it's just unless we're in some big crunch, you might see one or two
people there, and I think, I mean, you can tell me if
there's anybody else in here that we have to kick out first before we do
anything. No, No, I don't think so I will say though,
that I think that it's probably got a lot of space in here. You've
got a lot of stacks of paper. There's just a lot in here,
and there's probably more than like you've got the you know, kind of scrum
setup where you've got the four desks together and then there's a break and then
another four and so maybe there's a total of eight sets of desks back here,
but maybe one of them is covered in papers, like as you guys
have all decided to use only a certain set and you're all sharing, and
maybe a lot of people prefer to work at their apartment. I actually don't
know if that's available in this reality. It feels very all apartment space feels
very tiny. So you have to would you have to come into the office
to do your work? So yeah, I have a couple questions then for
that, just for my own part. Yeah, so in this space,
first, how many entrances and or exits are there? We'll say two.
There's one like the front, like the way you came in, and then
there's probably a back door that leads to set of elevators or vending machines or
whatever. This is kind of like the most inconvenient spot all the way in
the corner of the back of the office that nobody wants to go to,
and Selma's office is probably like right before you head into that direction, this
is this is the graveyard of this floor. So which is which is fine?
My concern is if people show up coming from the elevator, they probably
wouldn't come through this way, all right. If you want to stand guard
on the elevator, yeah they do. I'd be there to be like kind
of shoe them off, all right, because I want to make sure that
nobody disturbed Sawyer either. Well, So my concern is and people coming in
that direction chirpping wires. So for Bob, Bob's waiting for the threat,
that's all he's waiting for. He's waiting for the gun of the person that's
been found out the problem. That is his only focus in this situation.
If Selma said it was Sawyer, that's where his gun would go. But
if people showed up coming off of the elevator and they had a look about
him, determined we need to find someone doing something look which no one should
really have in this space, that's the threat. So I'm trying to get
into a position where I can monitor both that and my people. Okay,
other than that, that's where I'm seeing. Okay, I'm inside with Sawyer.
My arms are crossed and my feeter kind of tappened, but I'm listening
to make sure that I don't hear anybody. Oh, I'm scuffling around,
and I ask, is there anything you need? Any any water or anything
like that? Oh, it's okay, Well, okay, let's just figure
this out right, sure, sure, yeah, yeah, m you said
this could all point at you. I look at her and then I sort
of scratch my ear and glance up at the corner, and I don't answer
her and say it's not that important. We can talk about it later.
As I fire up my terminal, and I guess I start to look for
things that are different. I feel like i'd know this machine pretty well.
So what's it doing? What's it doing different? Go ahead and rule a
tech for me. Let's hope I shook out those gnat ones. Yeah,
oh, do you want to push the five? Absolutely want to push the
five? Oh my god, I'm falling apart at the seams here. I
didn't get advantage on the role for scientists, I assume, but well,
actually you did, but you also had disadvantage for what has been done to
the machine or what's like happening in the background. So I just leveled it
out. But I will say this, you don't fail at what you're attempting
to do. You do it very well. But it doesn't appear that the
machine itself. You're trying to see if the machine's different, right, if
something has been changed with the physical machine, or maybe there's a program running
on it. Is that what you're trying to do, just so I understand,
Yeah, okay, I'm looking for anything unusual about the way it boots
up or the way it starts this process. There is nothing unusual, So
we'll say that's what that fail was. I think that's the first time you
failed to tech role anyway, Yeah, madness, okay, So I now
need to take a look at the way that So what I what I'm aware
of, and just clarifying that this is the truth, which is that every
terminal and every piece of surveillance tech that I'm aware of in the l seems
to link back to this terminal currently like this is that if they were to,
you know, do a cursory glance at where it looks like it's coming
from it looks like it's coming directly from you. It's using your login as
well. Okay, so I need to determine when that happened, if possible,
how long I think that this has been occurring for, because I have
a guess in my head for how long back it stretches. And then I
need to figure out I guess I need to examine examine that network that's been
created and see if I can figure out how it was put together. I
assume it was put together from this terminal. So if someone accessed my terminal
to do it, when did that happen and who was it? If possible?
Right, Okay, I will need another tech rule still at normal no
advantage or disadvantage. Yeah, let's do that first. Okay, that was
stealth by accident. Okay. I was like, finally, stealth is good
though too because it keeps you. Okay, are you going to push?
Are you going to stick with the one success? I I'm going to push
the four Okay, I am going to push. How is your resolve?
I think you're very close to taking a stress like this would knock be This
would knock me down to three based on what I've calculated. Yep, okay,
but I think this is a worthwhile one, so absolutely is that correct?
Yes, that was a push, but it didn't That's okay. You
can push again if you want. You can push as many times as you
want until you take a critical stress and I'm going to take the one.
I'm gonna take the one success. Okay, Okay, And I'm realizing I
don't think that you know how the critical stressors work. I'll give you the
page number, but essentially, taking a critical stress is going to be something
like something from a table that is almost like an emotional scar or some sort
of traumatic thing emotionally that happens and stays with you until you get some downtime
and then your resolve will build itself back up. But it's not gonna you
know, just in case you didn't know what that was. Okay, you're
gonna take the one success. Let's ask you some questions. When did you
start working here? I formally started working at the LAPD. It would have
been generals are fine, you got to give me an exact date, but
yeah, how long willgo to do it? It would have been about fourteen
months ago. Yeah, yeah, that's when I try. Do you remember
where you transferred from? I? I was a graduate from a tech academy.
Uh, and I had training in security and could have easily I had
a suite of training that could have made me, you know, an officer
in you know, in you know, without too much trouble with like a
police academy or anything like that. But I effectively came from from corporate world.
Do you remember which one? I don't? Yeah? Yeah? Or
would you like to keep it quiet? Yeah, I'll share it. Swearer
was was trained at a Wallas corporation backed university to be a tech analyst and
security expert basically. Uh. Do you remember the conversation you had with a
woman who hired you? Yes? Okay, So I think as you are
looking to see what has been done, the conversation you had with that woman
floats to your mind where she warned you that there might be people in the
LAPD that would be unpleased to find out that you came from Wallace, and
that she told you to kind of keep it under wraps that you were coming
for that you had trained at Wallace, right, Yes, I think all
of that surfaces into your mind as you're searching through your computer, and for
some reason, you know, you did not pull up any bank information or
anything related to your implants, but that is in your history. So now
it looks like if a detective were to be looking at this, it looks
like you've been paid off. You don't see from whom. Unfortunately, with
just the one and I will give you that, it looks like someone knows
your history here, okay, and is Selma witnessing this mission across from you.
But I don't think i'd be looking over your shoulder because of that.
Oh no, no, no, I'd ask you specifically you want me to
look over I wanted you to scrutinize the ship out of them. I think,
all right, well, I think i'll get I'll grant you this.
I'm there, but I don't know if I'm being as scrutinizing as maybe I
should, because I'm also experiencing a critical and I'm looking around the room and
I'm just trying to like sort of decipher what Sawyer's doing, but I cannot
make heads or tails of it. I mean, I think I could maybe
roll for it, but I don't really know what's going on here. I
think I can read Sawyer's facial expressions maybe yeah, But other than that,
I'm assuming that there's there's something that's going on that I don't know about.
Because you look a little a little stressed. I think it just kind of
clicks together in my head that I'm not sharing this out loud, but I'm
stating this, which is that Sorry's assumption is that this mole, which he
is one hundred percent convinced works for Tyrrell, is creating a fake trail on
Sawyer so that he can be thrown under the bus as the as a mole,
whether it's for yeah, trying to connect that thread there. So I
think I think the next thing that he has to do is and that that
was my assumption based on trying to figure out who did it, right,
Yep, that's right. So yeah, you're exactly right. I technically don't
think I can let you roll again for that same question, but if you
want to ask me a different question, absolutely we can let you try to
figure out a different way if you'd like. I know that we've made the
I know that we know the information is going to Terrell. That's what I
determined last time, was that it was being routed to Terrell in some sense.
So my again, my assumption is that a Terrell mall wouldn't make a
direct pipeline between the LPD and Terrell, because that would be if it was
discovered, that would be incredibly obvious. So I'm trying to find out if
this information stops at any other place before it gets to Terrell Corporation, whether
that's another terminal in this building. Okay, that or if it's a secondary
building that's acting as like a proxy between the LPD and Terrell. That would
be the next thing I try to find. Okay, absolutely, go ahead
and roll tech please, and again we're going to do no advantage or disadvantage.
So just a normal role. That's a TECH two. Wow, that's
a nine in and eight. There we go. There is the sawyer that
we know. Okay, So you're looking for any other drop off points.
I'm gonna say that, yes, you do find one, and I'm gonna
let you decide where it is, which I know sounds weird, but just
trust me. Yep, Okay, I decide where it is. I think
hm hmm, I think another It has to be either another terminal in this
building or it has to be a connaissance site nearby. Those are the two
things in my head right now. I think it should be a reconnaissance site
nearby personally, because I think that that's a little bit more intelligent than routing
it through another terminal here. If they've got it set up for you to
take the fall, yeah, you know. I if it was our yeah,
it was our current age, it'd be like a van on a street
or something like that. But but if this is something more stationary or concrete,
you know, if it's a you know, an apartment or like another
office or something like that that acts as a relay point. I have a
couple of different options for you, and it would be this world's I believe
variation of the white van, a floating advertisement that goes through and it would
circle the block, so nobody would even think twice that that advertisement is doing
anything weird or that anything's being rooted through it. So we can either do
a floating advertisement, we can do our own version of a white van,
which would be a limo style corporate vehicle, or we can do an actual
physical building location like Lil's Diner for example, right as an example as an
example, Yeah, you can choose, though it is your choice. Absolutely,
I will wing it based on what you decide. I guess my question
is would this be a can sawyer determine if this is an automated process or
is there someone acting as operator between these two points. If it's automated,
then the ord makes the most question. But if someone is actually my take
on it is that just raw data from the LAPD isn't the most useful.
But if someone is there and is interpreting it and deciding what to send on
to act upon, then that makes the most sense to him at to mek
alrighty, let's go ahead and roll one more tech for me, because that
I have a fault. I'm gonna push. Okay, I'm pushing it again,
and I believe that means it's the critical stress now, So you'll take
one of those and let me get the let me get the thing out,
but go ahead and push first. Oh I'm dropping to I think I'm dropping
to one. Are you okay? Yes? All right? Okay, Okay,
there you go. Wow, that's a two. Okay, perfect.
I'm hanging on on a one at the moment you're swimming in Yeah, no
kidding, I am. I'm hacking up a storm over here. Yeah,
I'm losing it. Okay. So I think what I'd like to give you
is that your thought this is perfection, and you're thinking, well, if
there's somebody there doing it, it's probably more likely a physical location. I
think we're going to go ahead and say that you reveal it's actually a floating
advertisement, and so you think, okay, it's automatic, but then you
kind of look at it again and it doesn't look automatic to you. It
looks like it does look like there's a person controlling the information. But how
and from that advertisement, you're not sure. I think some of the first
things that come to mind might be they must work in advertising, or potentially
it is somebody else here at the LAPD that has access to the board.
Do we have anybody that's like, okay, these are the ads that are
going to be circling around. You could maybe look up to see if anybody
had filed a complaint about the ads, you know, being noisy or something
like that, or whichever ad had been installed. But it was about fourteen
months ago, so either shortly after you got hired that this was set up.
As all those things click into place, I just kind of freeze for
a moment as I'm trying to figure out, did anyone else get hired around
the same time as me? That would have been maybe not suspicious then,
but now is jumping out at me or anything like that? Or was I
part of like a recruitment drive. I guess I must have been post blackout
now I think about it. Yeah, there was probably a lot of us,
a lot of these digital architects being brought in for this purpose. Natalie
Wise, that's interesting. What's interesting? It's just crazy the things you'll find.
What can I We originally had a plan of sort of using information or
like putting something out there that the mole would pick up on so we could
track that information. That doesn't seem useful anymore because we at least have a
relay point, which is this advertisement. In theory, we could in theory,
I'm just thinking we could access that remotely or directly, you know,
depending on our needs, and we can try and figure out more from there.
But the change is to my terminal. I don't know how recent those
are based on I had some pretty bad roles back there. I don't know
how recent these changes are. Uh, I'd say it's probably been this way
for a long time. Have you ever had a reason to look up to
see if your data at the LAPD has been going anywhere? Yeah, then
then it's been there the whole time you've been working here. I think I
will say this that, uh, this could be done remotely, gotcha,
It wouldn't have to be accessed. It has to be accessed from your terminal
directly. But it looks like it has been okay, because they want it
to look like you, of course. But if I don't have a timeline
of when that might have happened, I don't have anything further to determine from
that. As in, if I don't know when it occurred, I don't
know how to filter further information to find out who it might have been at
this time. Maybe you said not a lot lot of people are in this
office, right, that's right? Can I rule some kind of maybe like
observation or something to see if there's any sort of activity, maybe even a
document nearby that that was printed out recently that shows that somebody else was in
this office? Absolutely, all right, I'm gonna go for that. Then,
O who dog, that's a spicy spicy how dog? That's three kind
of take off my glasses in a deal, A little squintin see if I
can pick up on anything. Use my sales the senses. Yeah, okay,
I have to send you a DM the PBDM. Yeah to lude,
folks, don't delude yourselves. Delude I can't with that. Three dude.
Huh huh? Isn't that? I hang on a second and I look,
and I see, isn't this that same brand of hair ties that Natalie likes?
You know, the kind of kind of scrunchy ones. You can sort
of see that. I don't know. It's not as resilient as a normal
hair tie. It's kind of like scrunchy, you know. I think they
used to call them scrunchies. I think this is Hers. There's a sort
of a very cold reckon in my eyes as you start saying that, I
reckon. You're right, Yeah, that does look like Hers. But Ma,
that's just coincidence. Everybody wears these. Oh yeah, those things get
everywhere. They're everywhere. I look to Selma and say, in terms of
what we're looking for, got some leads and some connectives, but not sure
there's much else I can do from here right now, unless you have any
ideas, I do. I mean, I do, but I really don't
know how how much into detailed we want to go into that here. It's
a good question before you lean in. Yeah, I was just going to
say we can do that thing that I think anyway, you continue first,
and then I will jump in. I was just going to say that we
whatever happens, I just want you to know that we're going to do this
as a team. But just protect yourself, okay. I don't know if
if Bob hears this, but I just want you to make sure that you're
okay, that Sawyer's okay. Also, you're putting a lot out there.
You're risking your life at this at this stage, I don't know what that
means for you. I've seen enough. I'm in your corner. I give
her a smile, and I how difficult would it be for me to erase
the history intended to Wallace in this moment? Yeah, not that difficult at
all. Let's do one more tech role. Sure, and I think while
you're doing this, Selma, would you like to do this on Sawyer's terminal
or on a different terminal that's like literally right next to it. One okay,
one tech and then Selma will you roll me either tech or oh yeah,
we'll do tech or observation yep, either one tech, tech or observation
yep, perfect observation too. Okay, So we see Selma pulling up footage
of just kind of the LAPD security footage of around the time you got hired.
She's scanning through it. We've seen her do this before. She's very
good at this. She's got some weird uncanny ability to kind of like trace
people's steps. She sees that hair tie and goes okay and begins to look
up to see if there are any instances of when Natalie has come in or
out of the building around the time that you were hired. And you absolutely
do see footage for coming in here and plugging in a USB to your terminal
shortly after she was hired. Wait, is this is this? Selma?
Selma sees this on the terminal. She's not doing it in front of Owyer.
I pull up on my screen and I've written something down, and I
kind of nudge to Sawyer like, wasn't this like an old flame? And
on the screen says it's Natalie. I mean I never knew her like that,
but yeah, I mean, you know, me. I thought,
that's how in your shot is Bob? How in your shot would you have
put yourself? I'm this room was sort of sizable, right, I know
it was also very quiet in here, so yeah, but there's also stacks
of paper muffling. So I'm trying to figure out where I'm at because I
do you want to roll an observation for it? Yeah? Yeah, let
me do that. It's good. I feel like you can if you want
it. I was gonna say, you can have advantage for being a cop
that's literally currently actively listening. You're not just standing there waiting for an elevator.
You're kind of on alert. I will would advantage give me another D
eight or a D ten. I believe it's a D ten. It gives
you ano well, what is your uh? Oh, I see what you
did? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I get a D ten for intelligence
but a date for observation. So I'm wondering if it was okay, I
actually don't know. Go ahead and roll again with advantage and we'll find out.
Sure. All right, so it gives you a D it gives me
Yeah, it gives me two D eights. OK, I'll take that advantage
of your smaller base. Die. I think that's what it says, because
I was going to just roll at eight. But I will stick with the
four, okay, And I will assume between me trusting Selma, me looking
at the elevators, and just the room composition, I can hear them talking,
but I'm not picking up anything assive, and I'm not really worried about
it either, because I know that everything's being monitored. I would expect them
to be quiet. Yep, okay, okay. I think with that,
you know, if I I whap that data, that that history that's been
sort of placed here as cleanly as possible, and I give a very knowing
look to Selma as I do so, because it felt like she's giving me
implicit permission to do so. And I assume that I have like the I
know exactly which billboard it is, or I know what the like what the
yep, cool, sir? I think with that, which I probably write
down on a scratch pad just so that I have a hard copy that I'm
ready to get the hell out of there, and I look really ready to
leave. Time to go maybe yeah or something that sounds good, Yeah,
I see them send up. I guess yeah, shut em down. Yeah,
they're heading towards the door. I would imagine you're done. Yeah,
seems like it. Yep. Did things go well well enough? Yeah?
Yeah, Okay, let's let's go get that pie. Mm hmmm, yeah
sounds good again in silence, going to the elevator, taking our way down,
and then large strides to get outside, and not in the same direction
I went before. As soon as I'm outside, I'm last time I took
a ride. I'm taking the left, and as soon as we're about a
block away, turn around, create our little bubble, get close together.
All right, what'd you find? Sorry? You want to start? Yeah,
I can start. And I'm just fidgeting with my implant, like as
a force of habit, no pain or anything, just like like I'm tuning
in and out of footsteps and conversations nearby. Whoever is do this from the
inside has had this setup since I joined the LAPD, which means this whole
thing of trying to throw me under the bus as a mole. They've had
that as an idea in their back pockets since I first joined. I don't
know exactly why. I guess I'm just a likely candidate. It would make
sense. Like I said to you the other time we met. You know,
if I was a paranoid person and I wasn't me, I would assume
that I'm the mole just from my behavior recently trying to get to the bottom
of things. But they've been planning this for a lot longer than I thought
they had. There's no secondary terminal in the police department that appears to be
acting as a I don't know a nexus for all this data, but it
is being transported to a floating billboard that circles the block near the precinct.
They're using that as a bouncing off point, and I don't know if it's
storing data or if it's just rebounding it or what, But that would be
our next bet if we're going to try and trianglet exactly where this is coming
from. But I'm afraid of is well. But who. I found security
footage of someone accessing that terminal that we were just at and looked a hell
of a lot like Natalie. So I don't know what that means. But
we're going to the hospital right now. I am rushing past them and I'm
going to get the spinner Bob, and I don't know if this is right
to rush into this like right now, she's at the hospital. I mean
I want answers just as much. But do you know this could be intense?
No? Do you know she's there? Do you know that she wasn't
monitoring us the whole time? Do you know that she didn't see what you
did? I don't. I don't know that. Look, we've got to
go, and I'm still walking. I never stop. Is our spinner on
the road or do I need a requisition one? It wouldn't be on the
road. It would be like in the probably inside of the building. Yeah,
where you have to go in and get it. So, yeah,
but you can head straight there. Yeah. So unless you feel free to
continue to talk to me as we're going, that's fine. But I'm walking
with purpose, Okay, Sawyer, I'm not sure you should come with?
Well, no no no no no no no no no no no, Sawyer,
come with come with. I'm not letting. I'm still right. Yeah,
I'm still not completely sold. You're not going anywhere. I'm sorry,
someone, but I don't know who to trust Natalie? And then are we
at the building yet or we haven't gotten there? Okay, So at that
point I'm like, we'll talk in the car and then we we go up.
Now get the car. Does anything happen in between getting there, to
get to the spinner and to get out into the open air for it?
As soon as I'm I'm in the car, and well that we're all in
the car, I'm driving and I'm driving fast drive role for me? Please?
Now, is that a maneuverability or is there a specific in the vehicle
tab? You hit the vehicle maneuverability yet maneuver? Oh I did it at
advantage. I'm so sorry. Okay, I can roll that again. M
hm. You can get us seven and four as your first ones anyway?
Oh yeah, okay, yeah, so it's a it's a one all right?
Well without that too, then yeah I get one success. So as
we're driving, I'm not really looking at them, but I'm rattling things off.
It's like we found Natalie after we had determined that she had been picked
up by Tyrrell thugs. What the fuck is that even supposed to mean.
That's why I don't trust you right now, Sawyer. That's why you can't
go anywhere. I don't know what's going on. No, I'm not blaming
you, But you have to understand that I don't know. We know that
Sam, not my Sam was there too. I have no idea what's going
on. The only person that can give us any sort of information, if
they're even willing to give us information, this Natalie. And I can't let
her out of my sight. We cannot let her go. We will get
there and we will talk to her, but I need to know what you
think. I look over at Selma, what the fuck is going on?
I think I was trying to tell you what was going on, but you
decided you were the leader of this outfit. So now we're having a quarrel
in the spinner on the way to a hospital. Bob, I need you
to think about how intense this is going to be. We don't even have
backup. What are we going to do walk in there? What if she's
still in the hospital room? What are we gonna say? We know what
you did? She's in a cast. I mean this is You've got to
consider that we might be wrong here, we might be incorrect. Now I'm
not saying that, Bob, I trust her intuition for partners, but you
got to think the logistics here and how this is gonna look. This is
gonna look real intense, and quite frankly, I don't think Sawyer should have
to deal with this, because we brought Sawyer into this mess in the first
place. But I see your point. My hands are on the wheel,
or what would be a wheel. My knuckles are white from gripping it,
So I'm gonna need you to do the talking when we get in there.
I know this isn't impulsive, but time is not on our side. It
is just not. I still don't really know what happened at that club right
now, it's radio silence. No. I trust Scalen, and when he
gets to me, he gets to me, I'm gonna trust him to do
what he's supposed to do. But he had skiff. They're too far away.
We're closer to the hospital. We've got to do this. This is
something I would usually trust Galen to do. We can tell them and they
can come, and that's fine. But my priority is getting to Natalie because
if she's the one funneling stuff to turn of rel then she's the enemy.
Can I just say some real quick? Sure? If it is Natalie,
then she's probably gonna try and throw me under the bus. Sure, she's
probably gonna say she's had suspicions about me for a long time, or however,
she's gonna frame it and present it to you. So what can I
tell you right now that would make you trust me just a little bit more.
Nothing. I I'm going to trust that she does that. I'm gonna
trust that she is going to try and sell you out. She is going
to try and make us believe that you're the bad guy. My trust is
in Selma and what she saw. I don't think you're the mole at this
point. I'm not turning my gun on you, okay, but I don't
know what's going on. The fact that I don't know what the fuck is
going on with Natalie means I can't trust my eyes and ears right now.
I cannot. So I can't trust you to be away, and I can't
trust that she's not going to get away. And you're right. I'm sorry,
Selma. This is a team, where a team I should talk these
things out. I just do not want to let her get away. You're
right, I'm not in charge, and I'm sorry. I will listen to
you. If you honestly think I need to stop this spinner, I'll do
it. I understand, I'm emotionally invested. I just don't let her get
away. I understand, I do, and I can, I can do
as much talking as possible. But you know, Bob, you're a cool
headed person, and when you lose it like that, I just feel like,
geez, I'm just not sure what's coming next, you know, And
that sort of unexpectedness tells me that, you know, if we have a
plan, what if that derails or something, because because we're too emotionally heated.
But I hear you, and and god damn it, Bob, I'm
angry. I'm so angry. I mean, I wish, I wish I
could just snap my fingers and everything would be figured out. I don't even
know what's going on with Skiff and Galen right now, but like you said,
I trust them, and I can only assume that our partners are doing
what is best for us, what is best for the squad. They're good
people with good morals, and I don't I don't think they would want us
to go in guns of blazon either. I think they'd want us to be
just as careful and safe and approach this methodically as we can, Bob,
because we've done it before. We'll get there. I know it, I
feel it. That's my intuition, Bob. I trust your intuition to get
us to this hospital on time. But my intuition is that we're gonna we're
gonna be just fine. All right, just hold off, letting Skiff know
for a little bit. This is Natalie. I think this. Yeah,
that would be a lot. That would be a lot. So I actually
I do slow down a little bit, not driving as reckless. I think
my hands release a little bit. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. This is
good. Yeah, status up. They actually wanna make sure you work too,
Okay, You and Skiff? All right, Yeah, we gotta talk.
You and I. All of us is skipped right there beside you.
No, Galen, we're on our way to the hospital. So what do
you hurt? No, we're gonna go see Adaie she Adelie. She might
be the mom. What I know. I don't understand it. I don't
get it. We're on our way there. I'll meet you there, all
right. I safe? I Uh, I continue driving until I see the
uh, the hospital building. Uh. I'm going to look for a level
that I can park at that's closest to whatever level hurts would be, which
I imagine we would I mean, we would know because that's where she was.
So I'm just looking. I would imagine that you get priority parking or
placement. So yeah, I think as soon as I we we, I
set the spinner down, I let go and I lean I leaned back,
and I'm I'm fidgety a little bit, and I I'm going to turn my
body towards Selma and Sawyer. I don't I feel like I've lost the narrative?
Is that what they say? I don't. I'm good at the job
because I keep it simple. It's easy to shoot when you know what to
point out. My instinct is to walk in there with my gun out,
put it against her head and make her talk. That's my instinct. I'm
going to stay here. I'm going to trust you. Someone, keep your
calms open, please, don't close them down. Okay, I don't trust
myself in that room. Okay, Sawyer, Sorry, go ahead, Simon,
No, no, no, I hear you, Sawyer. I'm sorry.
I threatened you. Sorry, I don't trust you, but you didn't
deserve that. I'll be here, okay, I don't be listening. All
right? Well, time is money. Time is wasting. So let's uh,
let's gather our our army, shall we? Sawyer metaphorically, Bob,
We'll be back soon, and thank you for the trust, and we're partners.
Don't be so hard yourself. I'm not now get out there, all
right? Yeh? Where are you? Galen? Uh? I am stopped
in the rain. I uh, then across across street, and I'm trying
to decide where to go, figuring out where the hospital is. For some
reason, I want to walk there, or I have that urge at least
I feel like I'm not in a rush, or like if I if I
do grab a calve and go there. I have to deal with the situation.
And I've just got my coat as tight as I can, but I'm
drenched. Nonetheless, put my hands in my pockets. I feel around,
and I feel the drugs that I have in there. Take them out and
I look at them. I clutch at my necklace and I put the drugs
back in my pocket. You can't lose another partner, Yes, I won't.
I look up and the brain hits me in the face and it feels
like it's Each drop feels like a hammer blow. I breathe deeply and I
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