1 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:17,239 Welcome. We Ain't afraid of no ghosts. This is your number one podcast 2 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:23,199 for googlies and ghosties and long legged beasties, bringing you everything you need to 3 00:00:23,199 --> 00:00:28,359 know about things that go plump in the night and interviewing the personalities behind them. 4 00:00:29,039 --> 00:00:33,719 Make sure your doors and windows are locked. Now Here are your hosts, 5 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:43,880 your ghost hosts, Scott and Julie. Hey, everyone, welcome back 6 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,840 to the Paranormal Project. Hi, Julie, how are you doing? Um 7 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:51,880 good, Scott, how are you well? I'm still coughing. Oh my 8 00:00:52,079 --> 00:00:55,759 gosh, I hear yeah, you know. So it's fine, you know, 9 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,920 if we get through this between the two of us, because as people 10 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,399 know, I'm recovering from pneumonia, feeling so much better, but still a 11 00:01:02,399 --> 00:01:06,400 little bit of a cough. And so now Scott, Scott has the horrible 12 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:11,879 cough that's going around. Oh my goodness. So I'm pretty excited. We 13 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:17,079 have a guest on tonight. Yes, you and I met back in July 14 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:21,159 of last year. We were on a trip to Scotland and we had a 15 00:01:21,239 --> 00:01:26,200 chance to investigate with him and he is on Haunted Scotland, which is now 16 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:30,400 just come to the United States on Discovery Plus. So people want to binge 17 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:34,840 watch that, and he's been been watching. I was told by my doctor 18 00:01:34,879 --> 00:01:38,879 I need to rest, and I said, ah, so I've I've just 19 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:44,480 been watch bench watched the entire first season. Very exciting and you know, 20 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:51,079 there's a lot of there's a lot of other stuff that he's got going on 21 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,239 to things that are new that he's going to talk about. Started to talk 22 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:57,319 to Ryan again. Absolutely, so welcome to the show. Ryan O'Neill from 23 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:02,040 Hunted Scotland. How are you right? I'm great. How you use guys? 24 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:06,760 Fantastic, We're doing well. Glad to see you up. I know 25 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:13,360 it's midnight there, it's quite late here. Well, just return there. 26 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,479 We were a couple of ghosties and you're chasing us around. We're used to 27 00:02:16,479 --> 00:02:19,319 it, aren't we at this time and night. We were all used to 28 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:23,400 it. This is true, exactly exactly what have you been up to since 29 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:28,479 we since we saw you last You've been filming again, so more filming, 30 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:34,879 yes, Ireland. You know. So we've went from obviously haunted Scotland as 31 00:02:34,879 --> 00:02:39,080 it hears in the United States to what probably will be haunted Ireland when it 32 00:02:39,159 --> 00:02:45,319 comes out over the other side of the pond. So m it was quite 33 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:49,520 interesting because I'm going the countries are so similar, you know, in their 34 00:02:49,599 --> 00:02:54,800 mythology and you know the spirits and ghosts and stories that you get. So 35 00:02:54,879 --> 00:02:59,000 it was really good just to go and have a look to see what was 36 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,560 happening in Ireland. And I think it's going to be a really good season. 37 00:03:05,159 --> 00:03:09,560 I am so excited. I was surprised watching one of the episodes of 38 00:03:09,719 --> 00:03:16,039 Hunted Scotland when you and Chris Fleming, the psychic medium on the show that 39 00:03:16,159 --> 00:03:21,599 if in case people haven't seen it, we're talking about the band She and 40 00:03:21,759 --> 00:03:28,680 I didn't know that the band She was also myth or spirit in Scotland. 41 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,879 I thought I knew it originated or I thought it originated in Ireland, didn't 42 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:38,120 know that it had popped over to Scotland. Well, that's so similar in 43 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,840 both places, and you do have this crossover, you know, in the 44 00:03:40,879 --> 00:03:45,919 two countries. That's the Celtic countries and I'm sure I mean Wales as well, 45 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:50,800 will be very very similar, you know, going away back and if 46 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:55,039 you look into the stories of these countries, we've got very very similar things 47 00:03:55,120 --> 00:04:00,800 going on and they must all originate from somewhere. This is true, absolutely, 48 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,800 yes, yes, So I'm just so curious because, as I say, 49 00:04:04,879 --> 00:04:10,879 I've been binge watching UM. I did Scotland because it's just here now 50 00:04:11,199 --> 00:04:15,560 on the side of the plant UM. And I mean every episode I'm just 51 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,600 you know, in front of the TV set, just riveted. But what 52 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:27,600 was your favorite place to to investigate? Investigate? The favorite, the scariest 53 00:04:27,639 --> 00:04:32,759 place. I don't usually get spooked on much place as we go because I'm 54 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,360 so used to going into locations. It's like, oh, use guys, 55 00:04:36,199 --> 00:04:41,959 go when we do what we need to do and we get the results, 56 00:04:41,959 --> 00:04:46,800 we'll get answers, we look for some communication. And when we went down 57 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,360 to come along in Castle, which was down you know, in the doctor 58 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:55,040 area, I had to go into the dungeon there and there was only one 59 00:04:55,120 --> 00:05:00,040 way in there, and it was those step ladders going down there, and 60 00:05:00,079 --> 00:05:05,079 it was just the most spookiest place ever. And when I got down inside, 61 00:05:05,199 --> 00:05:10,759 there was all these flies on the back wall. I've never seen so 62 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:14,639 many. There's no other way in. I don't even know how they got 63 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:18,040 in there. You're stuck down there. You cannot see in front of your 64 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:23,360 face. I've got a d R sixty recorder where you know some of the 65 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:27,439 good results you get from them. I'm asking questions, I'm on my own, 66 00:05:27,959 --> 00:05:31,519 and then I get what's like run come through the dr sixty. At 67 00:05:31,519 --> 00:05:35,160 the same time, I can hear these flies at the side of me and 68 00:05:35,199 --> 00:05:40,839 it feels like they're just right here. So that was the most spookiest thing 69 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:45,079 ever I've never I don't think I've ever felt that way before, where I 70 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,199 just had to get out of an area and I'm just surprised. I mean 71 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:53,639 it's not happened off of TV, and I'm surprised it happened on TV because 72 00:05:53,959 --> 00:05:56,879 I thought, yeah, I'm going to manage, Okay, these will be 73 00:05:56,959 --> 00:06:00,839 fine. I've been the bottom of Edinburgh under Ground. I've been everywhere and 74 00:06:00,879 --> 00:06:04,480 I didn't believe that it would be an issue. But that was probably the 75 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:11,079 most spoot I've been and I needed to get out of that area. Wow. 76 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:15,800 Wow, Am I remembering correctly that something was thrown at you when you 77 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,079 were down there? Yes, there was a stone thrown down there, because 78 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:23,279 when I went down, Gail Porter come down as well at the same time, 79 00:06:23,639 --> 00:06:26,519 and there was a stone thrown down there. Now, the thing is, 80 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:30,879 there's only one way to get down and Chris was sitting there, obviously 81 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:34,519 asking questions, seeing if he could pick up on anything there and wherever this 82 00:06:34,639 --> 00:06:38,240 stone come from. It it felt like, you know, at the back, 83 00:06:38,879 --> 00:06:42,959 not not the fly side, but on the other side. But at 84 00:06:42,959 --> 00:06:46,360 the same time, the caveat of that is you can't really see much. 85 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:50,160 We had some night vision cam corridors at the time, but you don't really 86 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:55,600 see much on those screens at the time when you're when you're not engrossed in 87 00:06:55,680 --> 00:07:00,240 what's happening in your environment. Right absolutely, and it was I remember being 88 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:05,319 a very small place. There was nowhere to give Gail she was she was 89 00:07:05,439 --> 00:07:10,160 off. Gail, she she was off, and a lot of them she 90 00:07:10,279 --> 00:07:13,959 was off up the ladders. It was very brave for her to come down 91 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,279 because I know she was struggling a little bit, but she got the courage 92 00:07:17,319 --> 00:07:23,399 to come down at least be in that environment. And but she took off 93 00:07:23,439 --> 00:07:26,720 and left me down there, and I'm thinking to myself, now there's been 94 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,040 a stone thrown down here, there's all these flies here in the dark. 95 00:07:30,079 --> 00:07:38,360 Come on, but I need to be brave. Yes, everybody has those 96 00:07:38,439 --> 00:07:43,279 moments, I guess you know from one time or another. Wow, you 97 00:07:43,279 --> 00:07:46,920 would spend some time in Culross. I love it there. I love it 98 00:07:46,959 --> 00:07:50,560 there. So we went to the palace there. Yeah, and um, 99 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:58,879 listen, the whole place, the whole town there is haunted. Um. 100 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,600 This was actually echoed to me recently, and I found this really funny. 101 00:08:03,439 --> 00:08:09,639 We spoke to two people who actually live in Crous and one of them has 102 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:13,079 been nursing. She was obviously small, and she was telling me a story 103 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:18,199 about a local castle that's there and I should go and do an investigation or 104 00:08:18,199 --> 00:08:22,199 an event there, which we're going to do in Halloween. And she says 105 00:08:22,199 --> 00:08:26,439 it's the most spookiest place there, not even so much the palace, but 106 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:31,720 this this castle, Blair Castle, and she said it's so spooky. She's 107 00:08:31,839 --> 00:08:35,639 just imagine when I was a little girl, we used to walk around the 108 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:39,600 town and we didn't know who was alive and who was a spirit at the 109 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:46,720 time. That place is and I just I just sort of echoed it for 110 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,360 me, and I'm like, wow, can you imagine staying in a place 111 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:54,919 like that. That's just wanted to girl. We couldn't get in when we 112 00:08:54,919 --> 00:08:58,039 were there. We were for a day, thought, and we couldn't get 113 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:03,919 into the castle. Oh, that's jalous. Yeah, yeah, that's that's 114 00:09:03,919 --> 00:09:07,679 a shame. That's a really really good location. And I think we've got 115 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:13,000 some really really good results in there as well. I was quite impressed. 116 00:09:13,759 --> 00:09:18,960 Um what the whole sound is just you know, you've got You've got cal 117 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:22,240 Ross, and then you've got Saint Andrew's, which is probably even grander for 118 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:28,559 for the for the Walking Spirits and beautiful. Oh I love Saint Andrews. 119 00:09:28,919 --> 00:09:33,279 Carl Ross, though, had a very different feel to it. Um. 120 00:09:33,759 --> 00:09:37,200 And again, of course I watched the episode and I was just fascinated by 121 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:41,399 the toll booth oh thing, which when you first look at it, it 122 00:09:41,399 --> 00:09:46,279 almost looks like a church. It does. Yeah, And Chris had gone 123 00:09:46,399 --> 00:09:54,840 up to the upper level where it's all just rafters, and I remember him 124 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,960 getting the feeling of people being hanged. And you found later that they were 125 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:05,039 take the accused, that the women and men who were accused of witchcraft in 126 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:09,759 there, and tour to them until they confess to witchcraft, and then took 127 00:10:09,759 --> 00:10:13,720 them up to the third floor and hang them from the rafters. So I 128 00:10:13,799 --> 00:10:16,840 just can't imagine the feeling, I mean, the energy left over in that 129 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,919 place from that you can feel it. You could, you could certainly feel 130 00:10:20,919 --> 00:10:26,360 it, and and I could still remember the feelings going in there. Now. 131 00:10:26,639 --> 00:10:30,440 I mean, I'm not everybody's a little bit sensitive, you know. 132 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,639 I'm not a psychic or that my thing is to come into the equipment. 133 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:39,279 But as you guys know, when you work in these locations and with spirit, 134 00:10:39,519 --> 00:10:41,440 if you like, you could sort of tell what's going on in an 135 00:10:41,519 --> 00:10:46,600 environment, You could feel the environment, and that place had the swaying feeling 136 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:50,919 inside it. The energy was thick, and you just knew that there was 137 00:10:52,039 --> 00:10:56,600 leftover residual something yes, in the area, and I'm obviously something interactive as 138 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:00,960 well, and there was a little bit of a you know, like sicky 139 00:11:01,159 --> 00:11:05,559 type feeling there. I struggled a little bit at times really in that environment, 140 00:11:05,799 --> 00:11:09,440 and it felt really just like a sea sick feeling. You know. 141 00:11:09,519 --> 00:11:11,279 You just felt like we know that. Yeah, I think we all have 142 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:16,320 had that feeling and investigating one place or another. Um. What was it 143 00:11:16,519 --> 00:11:20,279 interesting is that you said residual energy because on your TV show I had to 144 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:26,000 wait and listen for you for to be explained. You call it stone tape, 145 00:11:26,639 --> 00:11:31,320 yeah, stone stone tape energy. We call it residual energy. Yeah, 146 00:11:31,759 --> 00:11:37,320 Stone in residual. I like using residual or like non sentient energies, 147 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:41,840 you know what you're sentient interactions with fifty dollar words, Ryan, Yeah, 148 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,759 like I like, I like nonsentient as well. But yeah, that's it's 149 00:11:46,799 --> 00:11:50,360 the same thing Stone take. And it's you know, somehow these energy is 150 00:11:50,399 --> 00:11:56,679 embedded into our environment or into something in our environment and at the right time 151 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:03,159 to replay, and it's usually for some consciousness for somebody there to witness what 152 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:07,000 is going on. But I always just when I try to explain it to 153 00:12:07,039 --> 00:12:11,039 people to the public, what will usually say is it's not much different than 154 00:12:11,639 --> 00:12:16,200 maybe watching a movie. You know, it was once there and it's really 155 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,159 playing back to you and you could watch it. They can't interact with you, 156 00:12:18,399 --> 00:12:22,360 but you could still see what's you know, what's been embedded, if 157 00:12:22,399 --> 00:12:26,279 you like. And that's what you feel in some of these locations you go 158 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:31,279 into absolutely. I mean we have of course, you know here in New 159 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:37,320 England definitely not as old as Scotland, and we have several locations here that 160 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:43,639 does just riak of residual energy. You just walk into it and you just 161 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:48,879 know, you know that there was just so much emotion wrapped up in these 162 00:12:48,919 --> 00:12:52,519 places and it has to go somewhere. It just, you know, it 163 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:56,960 just stays, it's in front. It seems just like a raw emotion. 164 00:12:56,039 --> 00:13:01,799 That's a perfect way to put it. That's just somehow embedded into our our 165 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:05,799 environment. And it's trying to understand why and how that happens. But you 166 00:13:05,799 --> 00:13:11,120 certainly can feel it. Your senses can feel it. And that's whether you 167 00:13:11,279 --> 00:13:15,000 are a tachy or whether you're you know, are a clear voyant. You 168 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:20,000 could feel these locations if you just stand and tune into them and allow yourself 169 00:13:20,039 --> 00:13:22,240 to feel them. If you've been around it, you know a few times 170 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:26,240 you start to understand the different you know, when there's nothing there, it 171 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:31,919 just it just feels heavy, it does it does? I massively agree with 172 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,399 that. Yeah, I would have liked to have gotten into that palace. 173 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:39,960 We went up on the hill way up at the top. There's a there's 174 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:43,480 a church in a graveyard on the yes well, I think that's I can't 175 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,360 remember the name of it, and no one you're talking about is it like 176 00:13:46,399 --> 00:13:50,919 a lot? There's a long well, there's two. You've got the abbey 177 00:13:50,039 --> 00:13:54,120 obviously, you've got a church and you've got an old abbey next to it 178 00:13:54,440 --> 00:14:00,120 and curus. But there's also another ruined church on the outskirts as well. 179 00:14:00,919 --> 00:14:03,600 It's one wasn't ruins, it's one where you could go in and yeah, 180 00:14:03,639 --> 00:14:07,000 the symmetry was right outside. It was it was just it was amazing. 181 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:11,480 But yeah, you feel like they're just walking around. I mean, you 182 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:16,720 know, the energy is just every well, I mean with certainly with that 183 00:14:16,799 --> 00:14:20,240 abbey, and I think there's reports of like monks that are seen walking around. 184 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:26,320 There are still felt moving around there as well, but doesn't surprise me. 185 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:30,200 Again we're talking about you know, Chorus, so a lot of people 186 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:35,440 have seen wandering monks even in the actual town itself. And then you have 187 00:14:35,519 --> 00:14:39,519 this religious center there. What is what is the you know, maybe not 188 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:43,759 even necessarily on the show, but what is your favorite place to investigate in 189 00:14:43,879 --> 00:14:52,480 Scott My favorite? I mean Balguny castles, guys were there. Yeah, 190 00:14:52,519 --> 00:14:56,799 it's just so special. Um. I think part of that also is is 191 00:14:58,279 --> 00:15:01,519 you know, it's locked down, it doesn't get investigated over and over again, 192 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:07,240 so it's very very special in that degree. It's also still a family 193 00:15:07,279 --> 00:15:13,120 home, you know, Stuart the Lair stays there and you know, the 194 00:15:13,279 --> 00:15:18,600 look after the place, the rebuilt parts of it, and it is certainly 195 00:15:18,799 --> 00:15:24,759 some of the activity that you could experience, the communication work that you get 196 00:15:24,799 --> 00:15:28,799 going on there. It's just amazing. And it's different from part to part 197 00:15:28,879 --> 00:15:35,039 inside the castle. So it feels different inside the chapel to what it feels 198 00:15:35,039 --> 00:15:37,080 like in the keep, maybe in the layer's bedroom or in the Great Hall. 199 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:41,440 There's a different feel in each part, and it's as if there's different 200 00:15:41,559 --> 00:15:46,440 energies that are residing in each part there and they're just not for some reason 201 00:15:46,519 --> 00:15:50,840 moving on there that they're staying there and it's a nice place. Maybe it's 202 00:15:50,919 --> 00:15:54,879 something to do with it. Oh, it's it's absolutely beautiful. I know 203 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,679 that. When Scott and I were in the Great Hall, I remember sitting 204 00:15:58,679 --> 00:16:04,879 there and I kept turning behind me because I felt there was someone standing over 205 00:16:04,919 --> 00:16:10,360 to the in the corner. And so I was with Scott and Barbara and 206 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:14,200 I think Cindy at the time, and one of them had said, you 207 00:16:14,279 --> 00:16:18,279 keep looking over there, and I said, there's a young woman standing over 208 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:22,559 there, just standing like that's her job, just to stand. And when 209 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:27,080 I say young, I mean you know young teenager, teenage years standing there 210 00:16:27,559 --> 00:16:33,480 and I just get the impression that she is just there and it's you know, 211 00:16:33,799 --> 00:16:37,559 that's her job. Her job is not done yet. She was just 212 00:16:37,759 --> 00:16:41,600 there. It was an amazing place. The energy in there. The Great 213 00:16:41,639 --> 00:16:48,440 Hall itself was amazing. The Great Hall was amazing. And what you're explaining 214 00:16:48,519 --> 00:16:52,399 to us there is exactly what's been witnessed by people. There is a lady 215 00:16:52,440 --> 00:17:00,080 that's seen in that corner. She's been seeing multiple times. We have on 216 00:17:00,399 --> 00:17:04,640 little private investigations in there, and I mean, Greg might my colleague, 217 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:11,480 will tell you. We've had some amazing stuff happen. One example, I 218 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,680 just can't believe it. We had the chairs and at the time, not 219 00:17:14,759 --> 00:17:18,359 the pews that are there just now. And there was one chair that was 220 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,839 between myself and Greg and we were doing the usual, you know, we're 221 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,880 calling out becoming great respect. We're just here to communicate, you know, 222 00:17:26,039 --> 00:17:30,440 and and hear your story. And at this this chair, it was like 223 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,279 somebody tipped it back and dropped it back on its feet. Now, my 224 00:17:33,319 --> 00:17:37,559 first reaction to that is to look at Greg and say, was that you? 225 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,960 And he looks at me and he goes, no, that was you. 226 00:17:41,559 --> 00:17:45,599 And I was like my legs up under my chair. I would just 227 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:51,680 say, oh, my Goodness has done it to get our attention because we're 228 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:56,759 trying to communicate and it's just in those small moments and you know when those 229 00:17:56,799 --> 00:18:00,240 things happen and just makes you go, wow, that is just such amazing. 230 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:04,480 The spirit is around you and we're getting you know, hard evidence from 231 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:08,400 my point of view, and but also some good communication. And I'm willing 232 00:18:08,759 --> 00:18:14,599 to step forward and communicate with us well. And you remember, I can 233 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:18,839 remember I think it was above the Grade Hall. Perhaps there's another it's there 234 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:25,000 is and we were we were listening and we've got EVPs asking for Greg. 235 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:30,279 Oh that's correct. Yeah. Remember Wow. I mean so clearly they know 236 00:18:30,319 --> 00:18:34,000 who you are because you're there. Yeah, they do. I think it's 237 00:18:34,039 --> 00:18:37,920 because we go. I mean we could easily be there four or five times 238 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:42,079 per year. Um, different kinds. Some of them will be private investigations 239 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:47,039 to few team members. Some some of the public be there maybe like neuse 240 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:51,000 guys when needs come over, you know, um, and it's just nice 241 00:18:51,039 --> 00:18:53,119 little sessions. So I think they do. Know. We've heard Rick McCallum 242 00:18:53,160 --> 00:19:02,440 over. Rick McCallum loves when Caste. He does, he loves it, 243 00:19:02,599 --> 00:19:08,200 and I'm not surprised because he's experienced some really, really good evidence in there. 244 00:19:10,319 --> 00:19:12,839 One example would be we had the Frank's Box. We're using the Frank's 245 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:18,279 Box. Now. Sometimes it's difficult use NIGHTTC devices because they could be quite 246 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:22,079 noisy, you know, it is an effect a broken radio. But we're 247 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:26,480 listening between the stations. We were listening into the static and hoping that they 248 00:19:26,519 --> 00:19:30,680 could talk to us. And Rick asked a certain question. He said, 249 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,000 is there anything we should be afraid of when we go into the castle tonight? 250 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:40,240 And it said clear as day, really really clear the energy and it 251 00:19:40,279 --> 00:19:45,440 would just like mind blowing. We caught it a video, We recorded the 252 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,720 whole thing and we were just blown away just at the clarity of it. 253 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,160 Now we don't know what it means by the energy. This is why we 254 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:57,400 investigate and dig a little bit deeper. But another thing happened in that session, 255 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:02,559 and it's we were asked skin, you know who was speaking to and 256 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:07,640 it turned around and it said Leslie. Now Leslie was laid Leslie he actually 257 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:11,279 built the part of the building that we were in. And he also said 258 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:15,960 the bell. Now, we didn't know what that meant in that moment until 259 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:21,559 we realized the big bell that's outside the ruined part. Oh, yes, 260 00:20:22,279 --> 00:20:26,319 it was just telling us the bell, you know, and then Leslie and 261 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:33,839 it's just it's just great, great evidence and great I have a question for 262 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:37,599 you. When I was in the Great Hall, I'm wondering if anyone else 263 00:20:37,799 --> 00:20:42,559 has had this experience? Is I felt the scent of I want to say 264 00:20:42,599 --> 00:20:47,519 it was a lady's cologner perfume, but I don't think it was. It 265 00:20:47,559 --> 00:20:52,720 was very flowery, and I know back in the day women would carry flowers 266 00:20:52,799 --> 00:20:56,839 just because bathing wasn't something that they did in those days, so that they 267 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:02,799 would That's why they had nosegay is basically that's where it came from. But 268 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:07,200 I felt it. I smelt it almost like drifting past me two or three 269 00:21:07,279 --> 00:21:11,839 times, as if a woman, a lady would be coming to and from. 270 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:17,200 And I'm wondering, has anyone else had that experience in the Great Hall? 271 00:21:17,799 --> 00:21:21,240 Yes, yes, smells have been in the same sense as well. 272 00:21:21,559 --> 00:21:26,400 This, this, this has been experienced. I think altogether that there's something 273 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:32,079 like twelve plus spirit energy is said to be active there at different parts and 274 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:37,640 females and the smell of perfumes and flowers coming by is one of the reported 275 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,119 things we get when we have events. People will say, do you smell 276 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:45,319 that? They could smell lavender and all these kinds of smells, you know, 277 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:49,200 coming around you, and the breezes coming around you as well, and 278 00:21:49,559 --> 00:21:53,920 so it's quite a common thing and it's quite commonly reported by different people who 279 00:21:55,039 --> 00:21:57,039 come and join us at Bargrenny Castle. So, yeah, that's that's a 280 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:03,079 hit. Did you that? It's fascinating And then you get into the chapel 281 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:11,160 and that's an entirely different vibe. The chapel was a weird one because Greg's 282 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,960 than more work in the chapel than me, and we seem to have some 283 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:21,359 sort of masculine energy there that I don't think want us to be there. 284 00:22:22,599 --> 00:22:27,200 I call it the anti room. The room before you go inside the chapel 285 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:36,039 itself is so heavy and foreboding um and I think that it was really only 286 00:22:36,079 --> 00:22:38,400 the way everyone felt it, But I think the women felt it more than 287 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:42,400 the men did in that room. Yeah, I totally agree with you, 288 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:48,240 and it's and it's one of the first places at Balgony Castle where I was 289 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:52,279 I was able to say, yeah, there's there's a spirit here. Because 290 00:22:52,319 --> 00:22:56,920 I went along to do a session and it was just myself, Greg, 291 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,599 and a guy called Gordon, just three of us. And I remember it 292 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,759 was a Saturday night and we're getting ready to cross over into the Sunday, 293 00:23:03,759 --> 00:23:07,519 which I think they were wating us away from the chapel on a Sunday, 294 00:23:07,559 --> 00:23:11,960 but it was Saturday going into the Sunday. And you know, when you 295 00:23:11,079 --> 00:23:15,759 do your investigation and you're gathering your content, you know, and your EVPs 296 00:23:15,759 --> 00:23:19,519 and your evidence and your data. And I got to the stage where I 297 00:23:19,559 --> 00:23:23,519 thought, I think I'll probably have enough that I can analyze now, there'll 298 00:23:23,559 --> 00:23:29,079 be something probably in there for me. And I was satisfied and getting ready 299 00:23:29,079 --> 00:23:33,079 to go. But just at that point, I started feeling it was a 300 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:38,359 real cold draft of the breeze starting to come over towards me, and I 301 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:44,119 thought this is different, and I thought, don't say anything. I'll see 302 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:48,960 if Greg or Gordon say something, and then I'll go from there. So 303 00:23:48,039 --> 00:23:52,079 I sat and I could feel it. I liking it too, when somebody 304 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:59,359 opens a supermarket freezer and you start feeling that coldness coming over. And I 305 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:03,920 waited and I saw Gordon stand up. He had a mailmeter in his hand 306 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,119 at the time, and he said, I'm getting readings that I don't usually 307 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,160 get. And I says, do you feel anything. He says, yeah, 308 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,279 it's getting cold, and he was very fidgety. He was walking towards 309 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:18,680 the door. At the same time, we had k two meters all around 310 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,200 the floor, you know, spread out, and they were going off as 311 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:29,200 if something was moving. Obviously a fluctuation, but something was going around the 312 00:24:29,279 --> 00:24:32,400 meters and they were giving us indications. I stood up at this point and 313 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:36,440 walked to the middle of the room. I could feel this coldness in front 314 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:40,400 of me, and I just got that feeling come over me that there is 315 00:24:40,519 --> 00:24:45,240 something there. It's not maybe overly negative that, but there's just something there. 316 00:24:45,279 --> 00:24:48,200 I can feel it. At the time, I think we caught an 317 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:52,039 e VP at the same time, but we couldn't make it what it said. 318 00:24:52,519 --> 00:24:56,400 Greg certainly felt what we felt. This happened over a forty five minute 319 00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,119 period. It had me engross. I wasn't think of it going home anymore. 320 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:06,319 I'm just like right, right right. And it was at that point 321 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:10,119 that stood there and then it disappeared. It just ended. And then it 322 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,480 was at that point, I said, bagwiny Conso has haunted. I know 323 00:25:12,519 --> 00:25:17,880 it's haunted now at least with one, but there's one. And I felt, 324 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,240 I know exactly what you're saying, because when I was in that room, 325 00:25:21,799 --> 00:25:26,119 it was most definitely a male spirit, and not just a male spirit, 326 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:33,359 but this I was getting the sense that he wanted us to know that 327 00:25:33,759 --> 00:25:40,440 he is in charge, this is his place, and he wasn't too happy, 328 00:25:40,599 --> 00:25:45,400 especially women being there. He was certainly not happy about the women or 329 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,319 anyone else actually being there because it was his. But if you the sense 330 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:53,680 I got was, if you're going to be here, you need to understand, 331 00:25:53,759 --> 00:25:57,839 you need to know this is mine, this is my space that I'm 332 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:03,039 allowing you to be in. And so it was just so intense. It 333 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:08,400 was amazing. Yeah, absolutely, And I know the work that's been done 334 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:12,519 there. I mean I've had direct experiences inside the chapel as well, but 335 00:26:12,759 --> 00:26:18,480 I know some of like the Yes No Box that itc stuff, and mediums 336 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,960 come in and really really good at lead done being one coming in there. 337 00:26:22,039 --> 00:26:25,559 They've picked up on this male figure. Some I've seen them with a hood 338 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:32,039 on the name David has come up before. But I think the I think 339 00:26:32,079 --> 00:26:36,400 that some of the team members felt that it's not really his name, but 340 00:26:36,519 --> 00:26:40,559 he likes to be known that he uses this name. It has come up 341 00:26:40,559 --> 00:26:45,400 on other places inside the castle. But usually what would happen is when the 342 00:26:45,519 --> 00:26:48,119 name David come forward, you would get the sense that something's trying to get 343 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:52,480 you out, It's trying to get your way. You would see mpods starting 344 00:26:52,519 --> 00:26:56,200 to go off. We would hear like the scratch noise in the corner one 345 00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:00,240 of the corners were one of the stand lamps is. We got this noise 346 00:27:00,279 --> 00:27:04,039 in the corner there, and we went to investigate. Logically, you're thinking, 347 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,559 is there a mouse in here or an animal? So you go and 348 00:27:07,599 --> 00:27:11,480 look and look. There's nothing there. There's just nothing there. I at 349 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:17,599 one point jumped off a chair inside there because it felt like something was here. 350 00:27:17,839 --> 00:27:19,920 I got a noise and then something was there, and it gave me 351 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,279 a startled because I get startled as well. And I jumped up and I 352 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:27,119 dropped some equipment on the floor, and I thought, something wants us out, 353 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,920 something wants us out of here. And you get that at times in 354 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:37,240 there. Sometimes it could be quiet, but there is the visits in there. 355 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:38,880 Oh yeah, you know, when spirit wants you to leave, you 356 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:44,160 know, that's it. I mean, honestly, it's like but though here, 357 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:48,119 honestly, in the States, it's kind of a running joke because we'll 358 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:52,680 be somewhere and then we'll get they get out. It was like they always 359 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:59,440 tell us to leave. We're nice people. Yea, we might leave, 360 00:27:59,519 --> 00:28:07,759 but we probably coming back. Absolutely. Like, what's it like investigating with 361 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:15,000 cameras around you? Um, I find it's a little bit more difficult obviously 362 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:19,640 because you've you've got more people inside your environment, and you know, it's 363 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,480 sometimes good to lock down your environment so that you know what's going on around 364 00:28:23,519 --> 00:28:26,880 you along the time. And I know the guys are there with the cameras, 365 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,680 they're trying to do their working. You're trying to navigate at the same 366 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:37,039 time and do what you need to do, and it can be a little 367 00:28:37,079 --> 00:28:41,039 bit more difficult to to do your investigation in that. But I mean quickly, 368 00:28:41,079 --> 00:28:45,759 you do forget at times they're there, you know, especially if you're 369 00:28:45,839 --> 00:28:51,680 deep within something a communication session and you're just so focused on what they're doing. 370 00:28:52,039 --> 00:28:56,119 And and Chris Lyman's brilliant as well. You know, Chris is not 371 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,119 shy. If if we're we're doing our stuff, you know. And if 372 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,920 he's deep and get in something, he's not interested in any camera. If 373 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,160 they they say, all we need to know, we're going nowhere the spirit 374 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:11,519 here and and I love him for that. He you know, we'll get 375 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,880 focused down on it and go for it and he will go with it needs 376 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,559 to go. I can't come on one place. He will just go to 377 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,160 your spirit. Is that's it? That's it I'm saying, you know, 378 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,960 we need to let let's go to know we need to stay here or following 379 00:29:25,079 --> 00:29:27,759 up? Oh yeah, absolutely, do you find you know, you're playing 380 00:29:27,759 --> 00:29:33,880 for angles too, because they have to catch you at a certain Yeah. 381 00:29:32,519 --> 00:29:37,480 Ok and what if you you catch something but you know what I mean, 382 00:29:37,519 --> 00:29:41,119 like you don't repeat that, you know what I mean. It's not like 383 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,119 you can't get you know, it's something the guys with the camera, I 384 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,960 mean, they have to they have to get in and get it because if 385 00:29:48,039 --> 00:29:52,960 something happens, this is spurts not there for the cameras, right right, 386 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:59,480 Okay, yeah, you know, and Chris is a good one. He 387 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,519 says this. I mean, we carry it our mobile devices ready to film 388 00:30:03,599 --> 00:30:07,559 on the fly because as we always say before we go into the location, 389 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,079 they can start whenever they want to start. They're not going to wait on 390 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:12,880 us on a call sheet or anything like that. We just need to go 391 00:30:14,279 --> 00:30:17,079 and do what we need to do. And Chris is really good at telling 392 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:18,720 you know, people that who are on the crew as well. You know, 393 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,960 come on, guys, have your cameras ready because something may happen. 394 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,880 And I can't let way too much. But an island that happened to me. 395 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:30,799 I had my mobile device and I was going up to pick up a 396 00:30:30,799 --> 00:30:34,440 piece of equipment, and I'm so glad I actually filmed from I went inside 397 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:38,119 this building castle and I went to get this piece of equipment and I was 398 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:42,680 coming back out because on the way back out, something made a mighty thud 399 00:30:44,079 --> 00:30:47,400 at the back of me, and I got it on the camera and I 400 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:48,960 was in there myself. You know, there was no one else in there. 401 00:30:49,279 --> 00:30:52,200 And if I didn't have that, it's just not the same if I 402 00:30:52,359 --> 00:30:56,519 went back and said, something just happened, guys when I was getting equipment, 403 00:30:56,559 --> 00:30:59,440 because this was part. This wasn't you know, we weren't filming or 404 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,599 anything this part. But thankfully I because that's what I'm like, if I'm 405 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,720 going anywhere on I'm going to film it because there's something happens here. I 406 00:31:07,799 --> 00:31:11,960 need some evidence. That's awesome when you get it. I know I'm watching 407 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:17,000 the show. Um Scott. And I used to investigate with a guy who, 408 00:31:17,039 --> 00:31:21,200 no matter where he went, they would say, f you always to 409 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:25,640 this, to this one investigator, no one else to him all the time, 410 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:32,319 off for fu constantly. And I noticed that Chris Fleming is always being 411 00:31:32,519 --> 00:31:37,559 told to f off for fu. Happening happening castle mingus. Um. So 412 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,960 we were there and I remember because he asked me, you know, would 413 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,480 they say that here or they said what does that mean? And I told 414 00:31:45,559 --> 00:31:48,960 him bluntly I would say that, but yeah, he bluntly what it meant? 415 00:31:49,359 --> 00:31:59,200 Yeah, if you And it was great because the international language everybody knows 416 00:31:59,279 --> 00:32:04,000 that. But I would say in such such a Scottish way of saying it, 417 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:09,079 when you just mean get out of here exactly. It was amazing. 418 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:13,559 It was amazing. But yeah, that's a good thing that I like as 419 00:32:13,559 --> 00:32:15,720 well, because when I do things like using a France box, if I'm 420 00:32:15,799 --> 00:32:21,559 using a spirit box of any sort, I love when you swear because I 421 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,240 know you can't broadcast that I know it's not broadcasting some of these words. 422 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,759 And I'm starting and people will say to me, do you not worry that 423 00:32:28,759 --> 00:32:30,079 they're calling you this ornate? I said, no, I love it. 424 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:34,640 This is brilliant because this means it's great evidence for me. You know, 425 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,200 if they're calling me that, I'm used to it. I've been called worse 426 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:44,720 than by the living. Don't worry about you'll find that. Have you noticed 427 00:32:44,759 --> 00:32:50,240 that the cameras, the TV cameras have picked up evidence that you didn't get 428 00:32:50,319 --> 00:32:52,359 that you picked up you know later on that they do it doing. Yes, 429 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:57,240 yes, there's a few times in an audio being one, you know, 430 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,400 and the sound guys picking up audio that we met at the time, 431 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:05,880 or just seeing things off shop that we've missed accidentally, probably you know, 432 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,039 because they're just focused on doing what they need to do. And we've listened 433 00:33:09,079 --> 00:33:13,599 back and we've heard Evelyn's name coming out, you know, from an ITC 434 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,359 session that we didn't know it'd happened at the time, or these little subtle 435 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:22,039 EVPs and things happening as well. So it's great on that and go and 436 00:33:22,359 --> 00:33:23,759 because they've got to all recording, say can you go and get me that 437 00:33:23,839 --> 00:33:28,599 could you let me hear that so we can analyze that. And we're self 438 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,640 and Chris are all sitting with blacktops. He loves to get into his itc 439 00:33:30,799 --> 00:33:35,440 and doing stuff and I do the exact same thing, and you know, 440 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,400 pulling out and see what we could sort of piece together as part of the 441 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:45,279 story. Yeah, you know it must be. Um, it's still fascinating 442 00:33:45,359 --> 00:33:49,000 when you can ever recorder and someone else can ever recorder and then there's two 443 00:33:49,119 --> 00:33:52,319 cameras and only one of the cameras will pick up the only one will get 444 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,599 it. Yeah, it's I mean, and if that is improve of something 445 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,920 I don't know what it is, well that's it. Because if it's just 446 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,519 a random noise in the environment, you know, and we would have it 447 00:34:01,599 --> 00:34:07,160 everywhere, and like you said, that doesn't happen. It could be embeddied 448 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,440 in just one of those devices. You put two DR sixties next to each 449 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:15,000 other and one I'll have something, another one won't have it. So it's 450 00:34:15,039 --> 00:34:17,599 not really picking up a sound in your environment then and just making it sound 451 00:34:17,639 --> 00:34:21,960 like it because it's a low quality recorder. That's what some of the skeptics 452 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,400 would say, or the other one would be a stray radio waves. Well, 453 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:29,119 why is one getting that and not the other? Why is it when 454 00:34:29,159 --> 00:34:31,920 you put it inside a Faraday box you still get these voices coming through. 455 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,880 It's the internal workings of the recorder. I've heard this one as well. 456 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:42,239 Well, why don't we get the same type of capture every single time? 457 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,920 You'd be getting repeats of that because it be the internal workings of the recorder 458 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:51,320 doing that all the time. We've tested those kind of things, which tells 459 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:57,119 us that spirit are using that device, probably because it's not got as much 460 00:34:57,159 --> 00:35:00,800 of the latest noise reductions, and we're tapping into any area you know what, 461 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:05,320 it's picking up sound waves and from somewhere, or they're able to manipulate 462 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,400 the device in some sort of way to embed it on there. But you 463 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,800 know, if I go to Tourwood Castle and this has happened. If I 464 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:15,280 go to Torwood Castle and say can you name the castle for me? And 465 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,599 I do that as an EVP I wrote EVP and it says Tourwood Castle back 466 00:35:19,639 --> 00:35:22,719 to me, then I know I've got something that is not coming from any 467 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:29,519 other source apart from something I can't see, which is intelligent exactly exactly. 468 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:36,920 And so you mentioned Evelyn and Evelyn Hollow, Yes, and Ugustand she is 469 00:35:37,079 --> 00:35:43,199 a Paris psychologist, which is very very interesting. What is it like working 470 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:47,320 with her. I mean, I'm assuming that she is more scientific. She 471 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:54,880 she is absolutely fantastic. You're getting really well because I think the difference here 472 00:35:55,079 --> 00:35:59,880 is she's very scientific and she's very proper, and she will tell you straight 473 00:36:00,119 --> 00:36:04,800 you know what she thinks. But she is also open minded and she's willing 474 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,840 to sit there and move with the evidence. So rather than close yourself down 475 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,880 and say, well, I can explain everything, she's willing to sit there 476 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:15,280 and say, well, this is what my teaching gives me, this is 477 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:20,119 what my education tells me. But I'm here, I can rule this out, 478 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,280 I could rule this in, and she's willing to do that, and 479 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,440 it just makes her so unique in what she does. And she's fantastic. 480 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:30,599 You know, she can tell you exactly what's going on, and I just 481 00:36:30,639 --> 00:36:34,519 feel that it's a it's a great balance in the team to have someone like 482 00:36:34,559 --> 00:36:38,840 that, but not just your token skeptic or syneic. You can't exactly because 483 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:43,960 she's so open to things. Yes, it's she's there, prove it to 484 00:36:44,039 --> 00:36:46,639 me. You know that I want to believe, prove it to me. 485 00:36:49,039 --> 00:36:51,800 She showed me. And then and then if you give her I mean she's 486 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,440 had experiences as well, which is then she'll say, whoa, that that's 487 00:36:54,559 --> 00:36:59,559 pretty impressive, that's pretty impressive stuff. And she will go with that. 488 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:04,079 But obviously look for a rational logical as well. But we all do that. 489 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,199 Well you know that, Yes, this method, you know, just 490 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:12,039 because if you're spiritual or just because of your part that you're not rational logical. 491 00:37:12,159 --> 00:37:14,360 Yes, we are, Yes, we are. We you know, 492 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,880 we're experienced and what we do this we do this all the time. This 493 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:21,280 is what we live for. This is what our passion is. But not 494 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,000 just even not just playing games here, you know, and we're getting offer 495 00:37:24,079 --> 00:37:28,719 backsides and we're going into locations and doing it. You know, we're not 496 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,760 just running from what people are saying on from your head. Yes exactly. 497 00:37:34,119 --> 00:37:39,400 Um, you know, I I basically am a psychic EmPATH and so the 498 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,360 feelings will come to me, but I want to know what it is, 499 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,599 you know. And basically that's why you know, it's I like to work 500 00:37:46,639 --> 00:37:51,920 with a psychic medium because we can bounce things off of each other. Um. 501 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,079 But basically it's you know, I'm not going to say, oh, 502 00:37:54,119 --> 00:37:58,440 I'm really sad someone died here. It's just this is what I'm feeling. 503 00:37:58,559 --> 00:38:02,559 I'm feeling sadness, I'm feeling loneliness. And that's when we start to piece 504 00:38:02,599 --> 00:38:08,840 things together. Right, I totally agree with that. Yeah, I'm just 505 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,840 gonna say I totally agree with that. And I've always you know, we're 506 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:17,159 working with some really good mediums and insensitives and things. Um, it's the 507 00:38:17,199 --> 00:38:20,960 same thing. They'll tell me. They get bits and pieces and it's like 508 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:25,079 a jigsaw piece. When you've got to you'll put this together. And part 509 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:30,119 when we all sit down together and we hash it out and you know, 510 00:38:30,159 --> 00:38:32,599 you're trying to figure out what it could be. And I mean that's as 511 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:36,719 I like to call it. We always get to we'll get together before we 512 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,360 go on an investigation and we like to have dinner or coffee or something. 513 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:44,639 And then after an investigation and as I call it, we tell war stories. 514 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:49,199 You know, that's kind of the fun thing. And afterwards just peasing 515 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:53,599 everything together and well, you know, the julide EmPATH felt this, scot 516 00:38:53,840 --> 00:39:00,079 the medium got this, but then our equipment said something else. And then 517 00:39:00,159 --> 00:39:02,760 have our recordings. I mean that that's the coolest part of it all, 518 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:07,719 is putting it together, like you say, like a jigsaw puzzle. Yes, 519 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,239 and it's fun and I love it, you know, and I think 520 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:13,920 you need to have that balance of everything. So if you've got your equipment, 521 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,519 which is you know, backing up what's being picked up by the medium, 522 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:21,199 and you know somebody who's sensitive, and you can bring all that together 523 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,039 so you know, you've got somebody telling you you know, there's a gentleman 524 00:39:23,079 --> 00:39:27,559 standing there and this is what's happening, and then the needy eyes going off 525 00:39:27,639 --> 00:39:30,920 next to it, and you're you're you're getting indications on that, and then 526 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,440 you're getting things in the DR sixty coming through or on the spirit box and 527 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,159 the same time you get the same name as what's being picked up already and 528 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:45,199 cross referencing things, and it just it's so powerful and I'll never forget being 529 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:46,400 Julie. And I don't think you were there this time. I went to 530 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:51,519 Wilson Castle, Cyndi Mayburn there and this is a place in Vermont, but 531 00:39:51,559 --> 00:39:53,719 it's a castle. You know, they came up from the UK and built 532 00:39:53,719 --> 00:40:00,000 a castle. And someone does here in the US rampod, I don't know, 533 00:40:00,079 --> 00:40:05,039 somewhere in this room, and I knew there was something over I could 534 00:40:05,119 --> 00:40:07,800 just feel it as there's something over here. Move it, put it over 535 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,760 there. They set it down and the thing lit up. All the lights 536 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,960 were going off. I was like, Wow, that's amazing, you know. 537 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:17,119 To get that validation, it's amazing. It's amazing, And to watch 538 00:40:17,199 --> 00:40:21,519 that happening, it's just great. I've had it with Lee done the medium 539 00:40:21,559 --> 00:40:23,960 we worked with as well, where you know, he gets information and we've 540 00:40:24,039 --> 00:40:28,519 we've done some recordings and we've got the same back and I could see it 541 00:40:28,519 --> 00:40:30,400 in his face. It's validation for him. Yes, at the same time 542 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,800 he needs that validation as well, that am I on the right track here? 543 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,039 Is this what I'm getting here? And then to get that it just 544 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:44,840 backs everything up. Yeah. Meil me the probably four or five years ago, 545 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:46,800 maybe even six years ago. It's a mail meat with a rampod, 546 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:52,599 and I take her everywhere I go. That is my favorite piece of equipment. 547 00:40:53,039 --> 00:40:58,719 And even though I'm a psychic EmPATH, this validates what I'm seeing, 548 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:06,239 what what I'm feeling U and that rampod has been through hell and back. 549 00:41:06,679 --> 00:41:12,599 She has been lifted up and smashed down on the on a table by spirit. 550 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,760 I mean, it's amazing. And we thought she was dead at one 551 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:22,079 point at the James House UM in New Hampshire here where. That was just 552 00:41:22,159 --> 00:41:24,880 a very crazy, crazy night. Um we thought she was dead. She 553 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:30,559 was literally smashed down onto the table and she was out for the count I 554 00:41:30,679 --> 00:41:32,320 took her battery out, I let her rest for a couple of days, 555 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:37,400 put a battery in. She's still good to go, brilliant, amazing. 556 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,719 I do enjoy the mail meeting ram as well. I used it in the 557 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:45,079 Ireland, the same hand held one and you've got some great results. We 558 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:50,760 got some fantastic results which blocked up again what was hopping in the time. 559 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,360 Absolutely you use you know when you over in Scotland. I mean I know 560 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:59,239 different different areas have different ideas. But do you like to work with a 561 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:04,000 medium or do you like to have strictly no. I like I like working 562 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,760 with the medium. I like the way that I see it is. I 563 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:14,760 like to cover all areas. I don't feel that you should discount some areas. 564 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,280 You know, the only thing that I'm sort of a little bit stronger 565 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:22,679 on is I can't have a synic working with me somebody who's closed, because 566 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,039 I don't know if you have had this, but I just feel like something 567 00:42:25,119 --> 00:42:30,320 happens with the energies inside the location when there's somebody there who is not open 568 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:34,760 at all, and it's like they don't want to communicate, or it puts 569 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,559 me off what I'm trying to do, because you get into the stage where 570 00:42:37,559 --> 00:42:40,719 you're trying to do, you know, and they're blocked off, and I 571 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,760 don't, you know, it just upsets it. Whereas I feel that if 572 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,079 people are just like you know, will show me, you know, but 573 00:42:47,119 --> 00:42:51,599 I'm open to it, but just show me that is a better energy. 574 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,400 So I can't really work with synics. I think they're too closed off and 575 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:58,440 you know, standing doing this and not taking part, it's not good enough. 576 00:42:59,559 --> 00:43:02,679 But I do enjoy working with mediums and people who who are sensitive or 577 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:09,039 developing or just empass or open to the environment, just feeling their location and 578 00:43:09,159 --> 00:43:13,960 giving me what they get as well at the same time, because all of 579 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,159 that can build a picture of what's going on. And I feel that even 580 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:22,119 some people who may not call themselves mediums but they can feel locations, they 581 00:43:22,119 --> 00:43:24,960 get some great stuff, you know, to just give me the first thought, 582 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:29,559 what do you feel? And it's usually correct. Before they could they 583 00:43:29,559 --> 00:43:34,760 could go to before the analytical mind tries to take over too much with them. 584 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,679 I feel well, get some really good stuff. And it's not unheard 585 00:43:37,679 --> 00:43:40,480 of for me to go into Loca say well, I feel like something's here 586 00:43:40,679 --> 00:43:45,559 or I can I can feel that heaviness. And I think Greg would be 587 00:43:45,559 --> 00:43:49,719 the same when he's there, he will say the same, and other people 588 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:53,000 who work with us. But then you do have mediums and people who work 589 00:43:53,039 --> 00:43:57,559 with us who can just give us that a little bit more information. They 590 00:43:57,639 --> 00:44:01,119 might feel it's male or it's female, or and what they're feeling and what 591 00:44:01,199 --> 00:44:06,440 they're trying, non human, that type of thing, everything, and that 592 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,840 just helps us, you know, focus. And then then we could put 593 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,480 some equipment out and see, right, let's see what we could do here. 594 00:44:12,559 --> 00:44:15,000 Let's let's choose some other devices. Let's really just work into this. 595 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:19,960 And I think that's where the magic starts happening. Yeah, you know, 596 00:44:20,079 --> 00:44:22,079 Julie, I think we need to go back and do all the investigations we 597 00:44:22,119 --> 00:44:25,679 didn't get to do when we were I absolutely agree, yes, yes, 598 00:44:29,159 --> 00:44:32,119 about the only investigation we had really well, we went to the gail for 599 00:44:32,159 --> 00:44:37,400 a short time. But yeah, we're speaking. This was it. Yeah, 600 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:45,719 some old investigations next time, Yes, definitely gil Rick is going back. 601 00:44:45,079 --> 00:44:47,920 He's supposed to be there this summer. Yes, he's coming over in 602 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,960 June. And I think we are doing something at Bouguny. I think we're 603 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,199 going to go to Bougunny and do I think we're going to do a sleepover 604 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:59,480 actually and put kents in the courtyard people and do a little bit camping out 605 00:44:59,519 --> 00:45:05,360 and a lotle bit more relaxed because we'll have longer and just do little sessions 606 00:45:05,599 --> 00:45:10,320 at different areas, maybe a barbecue as well outside and just really walks into 607 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:15,239 it and Rick will be there for that. That should bring out some energy. 608 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:20,519 I find that sometimes when we're in places that are pretty active, you 609 00:45:20,559 --> 00:45:23,559 know, sometimes not a whole lot will happen, so then we just sort 610 00:45:23,599 --> 00:45:29,239 of start talking and we'll maybe be joking around and having a good time. 611 00:45:29,599 --> 00:45:32,320 Then before we know it, the energy is ramped up. So I think 612 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:38,760 sometimes spirit is really attracted to living energy. I think so I've had the 613 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:43,840 exact same experiences, and especially when you're standing you're having a joke and a 614 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:47,239 giggle and something will happen at that point and it's like, hey, look 615 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:51,880 at me. They just love it and it's and I've had the exact same 616 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:57,599 experience multiple times over the years. So I think, you know, even 617 00:45:57,599 --> 00:46:00,800 getting around the campfire and if we get maybe some hot drinks and just have 618 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:05,159 a nice time, I just think things will start hopping around about us and 619 00:46:05,199 --> 00:46:09,480 we could prove but you're not looking for it or something. Yes, exactly. 620 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,280 Yeah, times we're gonna have to go We're gonna have to go back. 621 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,400 Yeah, I agree. I agree. Although I'm I'm going to Alaska 622 00:46:19,599 --> 00:46:24,719 with Barbara um in uh the end of June, and it's not a paranormal 623 00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:30,440 trap. It's the Alaska Cruise. However, we happen to have some port 624 00:46:30,559 --> 00:46:37,199 calls that are very haunted, like Skagway, which is UM has the oldest. 625 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:44,760 It's called the Red Onion Saloon and it is the oldest saloon in Alaska. 626 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:52,119 UM And basically it is still the original building. Upstairs was a brothel 627 00:46:52,639 --> 00:46:57,280 and it said that there are two ghosts upstairs. Um. One was a 628 00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,800 working woman and one was a man. They're not sure who he is. 629 00:47:01,119 --> 00:47:05,880 So we're taking this kind of like a day long trip. We're taking a 630 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,639 train up to White Pass and then we get on a bus and we tour 631 00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:15,400 and we end at the Red Onion. Imagine that brilliant Maybe in my purse 632 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:22,519 at that time. No, that'll be great. That should be a nice 633 00:47:22,559 --> 00:47:24,079 trip, I would think looking forward to it. Yes, yes, one 634 00:47:24,079 --> 00:47:30,599 of my bucket list trips. Do you do you in being in Scotland, 635 00:47:30,679 --> 00:47:35,920 have you had any experience with the UFOs over there? Oh? Yeah, 636 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:42,920 well, absolutely rightly we have. I love the topic and we have a 637 00:47:43,039 --> 00:47:45,920 place I wait for a SkyWatch one night and we took some of the guys 638 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:50,159 up that we didn't see anything, but we certainly went up to try and 639 00:47:50,199 --> 00:47:52,639 do because you could do the whole meditation thing, send out your intentions and 640 00:47:52,679 --> 00:47:55,400 see if you can, you know, And we went to try some of 641 00:47:55,400 --> 00:48:00,639 that and we made it again and I think it highly highly interesting. But 642 00:48:00,679 --> 00:48:07,559 we also have they call it the Falkirk Triangle, So it's a triangle of 643 00:48:07,599 --> 00:48:13,559 areas where there's a high level of sightings in Scotland and it's in central central 644 00:48:13,559 --> 00:48:17,400 Scotland. And I don't know what is special about that area. I mean, 645 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:22,400 we could speculate, is it something to do with lay lines or energies 646 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,840 there or is this why they come into this area, or is it to 647 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:32,079 do with there is a naval base nearby there are they attracted and watching things 648 00:48:32,159 --> 00:48:37,280 there? I don't know what. It does seem to have a higher, 649 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:44,400 you know, amount of sightings. I think I've heard a UFO before. 650 00:48:45,639 --> 00:48:50,199 I went camping really about the Pershire area, so just a little bit, 651 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,480 you know, southern Highlands, and we were on the side of a lake 652 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:59,599 there and it was about two o'clock in the morning inside a tent and I 653 00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:04,800 heard this. I can't it's hard to explain. It was something was in 654 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:08,519 the sky going down the water, you know, through the through the valley, 655 00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:15,400 and this thing was just like a high pitched sound. It was very 656 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:20,079 It didn't sound like a boat or a car or any kind of vehicle or 657 00:49:20,119 --> 00:49:22,360 a plane or anything. And I said to my friend who was with me 658 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,800 at the time, go and have a look, because he heard it too, 659 00:49:25,199 --> 00:49:27,920 And he said to me, no, you have a look. I 660 00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:34,920 said, I'm not putting my head out there, because I sort of wish 661 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:39,920 I did now, because I regret not seeing. I quite believe that there 662 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:45,280 was something going on. Never heard anything like this before. Yeah, and 663 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:52,039 we had that situation with the black chapters and the suv with the men in 664 00:49:52,119 --> 00:49:55,440 black. Oh wow, I mean and that was near bonnie Bridge, Yes, 665 00:49:55,920 --> 00:50:01,960 you know that's the same time. Is that the area that yeah? 666 00:50:02,079 --> 00:50:07,159 Okay, okay, yeah, that was that was pretty interesting actually, and 667 00:50:07,559 --> 00:50:12,800 um, a man who owned a farm stopped and asked us what we were 668 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,519 doing, because we're a large group kind of you know, in the middle 669 00:50:15,519 --> 00:50:19,280 of the afternoon looking in the sky. Andrea Parrin is singing Moon River, 670 00:50:19,519 --> 00:50:24,280 you know, trying to bring you know, Andrea. So we this man 671 00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:29,960 stopped his car and I'll talk to anyone, and he just kind of rolled 672 00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:31,719 down his window and he said, what are you doing? What are people 673 00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:36,800 doing here? And I told him what we were doing, and he had 674 00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:38,679 said he had said, oh, he said, well, this is my 675 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:44,440 lower field here, pointed over and he said, these are I come down 676 00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,719 to check my cows. Um, he said, but my house is up 677 00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:51,639 on the hill in the upper field. And I said, do you see 678 00:50:51,679 --> 00:50:54,280 them? He said all the time? Oh wow, he said all the 679 00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:59,199 time. He said, from my house, I see them all the time. 680 00:50:59,519 --> 00:51:04,559 And it was absolutely amazing, just so matter of factly. I mean 681 00:51:04,599 --> 00:51:07,719 it's it's amazing. I mean, I've got another friend who does a lot 682 00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,400 of skywatches with you know, the whole night vision and scopes and things, 683 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:15,039 and he told me that there is a lot He sees the triangle shaped ones 684 00:51:15,119 --> 00:51:20,320 as well, and he says they're there. He says they're a million percent 685 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:24,679 they're there, and it's just seeing them and paying attention. Most people are 686 00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:28,840 just on their phone, is walking around like this, or not paying attention 687 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,800 and they're not looking. But me, I think I think we're getting closer 688 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:37,639 to some sort of disclosure. I can see it moving that way. More 689 00:51:37,679 --> 00:51:42,440 people were talking about it, I agree things and now we're getting government starting 690 00:51:42,519 --> 00:51:46,599 to the government is releasing information. Absolutely. I'm not sure if you have 691 00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:52,639 a there's a TV program here in the US National Geographic or Discovery channel about 692 00:51:52,679 --> 00:51:57,360 a place called Skywalker Ranch. Oh yeah, I've been watching some of it. 693 00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:01,760 A great, great show. It's amazing the things that have gone on 694 00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:06,559 out there. Right, Sorry, I mean to catch you up. We 695 00:52:06,599 --> 00:52:07,960 have about two minutes left, so I just I don't want to cut up 696 00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,239 the conversation. But I'm always doing this. I'm always like, all right, 697 00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:16,920 how can people hear about your shows. I know it's on Discovery Plus. 698 00:52:17,079 --> 00:52:20,519 Do you know if the new one from Ireland is going to be coming 699 00:52:20,519 --> 00:52:22,400 on in the US at some point? Yes, I believe it will be 700 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:27,639 in the US. It's probably going to be around about September. I will 701 00:52:27,679 --> 00:52:30,000 be putting details up if I get them. Chris Flemy always puts details up 702 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:34,679 as well. So it should be in Discovery Plus. And maybe it's at 703 00:52:34,679 --> 00:52:37,960 the Travel Channel. I think it aired. It could be on there, 704 00:52:38,599 --> 00:52:43,400 and and then in the UK obviously in the Really TV and Discovery Plus. 705 00:52:43,599 --> 00:52:45,519 Yeah, we do. I was just gonna say we have quite a few 706 00:52:45,559 --> 00:52:49,760 listeners in the UK and over in Europe, so they can have Discovery Plus 707 00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,480 and we have Discovery Plus streaming service. It will be on there, and 708 00:52:52,559 --> 00:52:58,000 we have Really Channel which is Discovery Own channel, and it will air free 709 00:52:58,159 --> 00:53:01,039 on there, which I think is probably similar to the Travel Channel. Um, 710 00:53:01,119 --> 00:53:05,800 so they can watch it on there as well. But if I get 711 00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:09,960 dates, I will have them everywhere. So people do something fantastic, very 712 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:15,679 exciting. Yes, that's great, and you know to know somebody that's doing 713 00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:17,800 it, and you know, it's fun when you can watch to go and 714 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:24,800 and know the people you're Yeah, I know I investigated with it. You've 715 00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:36,559 investigated, investigate. Fantastic anyway, Ryan, I've been trying to get you 716 00:53:36,639 --> 00:53:39,360 on for a while. I know we had a conflict last or whenever it 717 00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:43,199 was, but so glad you're finally able to make it, and I thank 718 00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:47,000 you for staying up till midnight now dearly one o'clock in the morning to be 719 00:53:47,119 --> 00:53:52,840 with us. We really do appreciate it. And you can go over evidence. 720 00:53:52,480 --> 00:54:00,440 Yeah, all right, right, have a great week and we'll see 721 00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,679 you next week on the show. Thank you, Ryan, great to chat 722 00:54:02,679 --> 00:54:08,920 with you. You have been listening to The Paranormal Project with Scott Allen and 723 00:54:09,119 --> 00:54:14,679 Julie Finn. Be sure to subscribe so you don't miss the next episode. 724 00:54:15,119 --> 00:54:17,559 While you're there, leave us a rating and review so others can find out 725 00:54:17,599 --> 00:54:23,320 about the show. Stay Haunted and go out there and explore the paranormal