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What is up, fellow thermonuclear a
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I probably will put this on po
pod, the actual YouTube podcast,

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but I will put it in the
the actual audio podcast because I do feel

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loyalty to the listeners that have stuck
with me all these years. And it's

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not a it's not a crisis of
self or anything. But I am currently

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in the process of moving. I
know I'm very fortunate to do so,

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but there's a lot of work being
done to the house that I just purchased

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because we're morons and bought a house
in this market. Again, we were

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lucky enough to be able to do
it. So my schedule is going to

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be just more chaotic. I will
still try and put out between four and

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six episodes a week, which is
what I've been doing. The quality of

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content will be as good as it
has been, which is to say it

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will completely suck. But if the
schedules sometimes maybe there might be leaner weeks.

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That is why the other thing is
with the interests of full transparency is

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like I said, Grant and I
we do this is more of a passion

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project. The ad revenue as of
right now has just been slashed, and

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so we're have to put our priorities
where like you know, the money sort

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of lies there. And I'm not
going like the podcast is always going to

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be free. That's not what I'm
getting at this isn't a preamble to anything

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along those lines, but I did
want to explain just in Kate the content

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is down, or for also our
Discord members. I'm watching the conversations.

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I'll try and participate as much as
possible, but I'm maybe asking for some

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you know, if I don't get
back to you right away, or if

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I'm not as active over the next
month or so. Just wanted to explain

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to you the reason why. Like
I said, I will still aim to

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put out four to six episodes a
week even if the Discord thing is down.

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If my activity is down, I
will still be watching on Discord.

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So rest assured there, but I
wanted to give I feel like I've been

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less active in there over the past
five days and I just felt obligated to

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give an explanation there. And like
I said, if it the podcast does

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get leaner, I think we can
always guarantee you at least two episodes a

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week, which is what we used
to do, and then I uped it

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to four to six because I enjoy
this. It also forces me to cover

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the league as much as possible,
and I love interacting with our listeners and

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that's really the only driving force behind
this is that there's people who are listening.

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I don't understand why all the time, but they're so fun to talk

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to in the DMS and the Discord, and so while I'm at the moment

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overwhelmed with stuff to do, I
you know, I have not been ready

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to forfeit that type of just relationship
with our listeners and people to talk hoops

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with. But again, just if
it does get leaner, there will still

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be two podcasts a week because we
do do things. You know, both

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of Grant and I are full time
at Pleach Report. Everyone knows that I

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do some other consulting on the side, and like, I'm going to have

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to put the priority as to what
makes the most financial sense here. Again,

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the quality of the podcast will still
suck, so it won't suck any

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less, but I wanted to give
the listeners to, you know, audio

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wise, like you guys have stuck
with us and the Discord members specifically,

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just wanted to give that little spiel
there. Let's move on to just some

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trade news murmurings. There were a
lot of injuries over the end in the

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NBA over the weekend. I couldn't
keep track of it. While it's in

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the process of doing things to my
house going back through it. I'm just

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exhausted from the sheer amount of injuries. A lot of them were going to

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talk about though, at least some
of the most noteworthy ones in our Eastern

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Conference Questions Pod, which is coming
at you Wednesday and Friday of this week,

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so the day before and then the
day after Thanksgiving. I'm not going

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to touch upon them here. And
there was also, you know, if

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we need to blow through it,
like Russell Westbrooks X ray came back negative

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on his I think even Marcus Smart
might return the lineup on Monday. Did

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not catch that Celtics game, so
I might have been off on the news

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there. But we'll get into some
of those injuries. If you have specific

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questions about one, you could DM
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discord and we will hit it in
kind. I wanted to focus on some

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There was, like you know,
mark Stein and Shams had reported some stuff

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over the weekend. I think I
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a zach Lavine trade when he was
benched in the fourth quarter by head coach

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Billy Donovan. Zach Lavine said there
was no ill feelings between him and Pulls

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coach Donovan that came from Darnel Mayberry
of the Athletic Lavigne was upset though when

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he was benched. I think it
was whether they playing the magic. He

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was one of fourteen from the floor. He said, this is per Mayberry.

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Me and Billy talk all the time. It's a tough decision. Obviously,

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I'm a repetitive guy. I want
to play. I just told him

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I feel like I've earned the right
to go out there and try to play

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through a bad game. His decision
was to try to do the best thing

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for the team, which I respect. If we want obviously, I would

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have been a static we lost.
I wasn't. I had a terrible game.

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Just noteworthy, Lavigne battling these stuff. Shooting forty six point two percent

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on twos this year, which would
be the lowest of his career since his

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rookie season, and he's getting to
the line at a career low clip clip

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Still, he's been shooting twenty three
point five percent from three over his past

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four games as well. Just something
to monitor because he's still so young.

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But he's only twenty seven and he's
going to turn twenty eight. It'll be

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in March, but he's coming off
another knee problem, and like his performances

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like waxed and waned and Ed didn't
flowed more than normal this season during the

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first year of a five year deal. The Bulls, who were as I

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before I started recording this, were
pummeling the Celtics. They're sort of just

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hovering on the sub middle of the
Eastern Conference, and they just have a

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lot of, I think inward questions
to kind of ask themselves at this point

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there, you know, being eleventh
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want to stay. You're still only
six games outside of first place, if

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we're going to frame it that way. But this is just this is just

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a team to watch because it just
feels like there's something off there that they're

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them in Miami. I just can't
you know, we can get into the

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Sixers with their injuries, and we're
gonna talk about all these teams again more

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more in depth shortly Grant and I. But the Heat and Bulls just give

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me like weird vibes that I can't
wrap my head around. And I'm I

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might be a little bit more concerned
with Miami because my expectations were higher,

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but just the Zach Lavine rough stretch
that he's currently having, uh and just

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like looking at digging into some of
the the sort of the offensive splits for

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him. I do think it's worth
monitoring there. Not to think that,

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I not to say that I think
he is going to wind up on the

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trade block this year, but it's
just it's just something feels off in Chicago.

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That's That's where I'm at with this. H So we had trade murmuries

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basically focused on the Hawks and the
Jazz or John Collins centric mark Stein said

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John Collins was nearly dealt to the
Kings over the off season, and then

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sources also told The Sign that momentum
is building on all sides for Collins to

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be traded during this season and that
his name will be at the four of

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the February trade deadline rumor mill That
is not really shocking at this point.

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He has been marginalized in Atlanta's offense. When you look at last year specifically,

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John Collins had thirty three point three
front court touches for thirty six minutes

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and at twenty point five usage rate. This season, he's down to twenty

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two point six front court touches for
thirty six minutes, and his US's rate

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is around sixteen. You add another
ball dominant guy de Jante Marie to an

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offense that already had trade Young,
and then you also sort of moved Collins

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away from being your primary screener with
the addition of Clint Capella in the first

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place a few seasons ago. His
counting stats, his advanced stats, like

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anything that's prided on volume, is
going to be diminished. I think it's

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probably he would be better off in
a different situation. I don't know if

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you're Atlanta, though, what are
you looking to get for him? Stein

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mentions that they could be in the
Jay crowd are running and we'll mention the

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Phoenix in a second. But you're
not. You're Atlanta. You're trying to

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win, now, are you trading? You're not trading John Collins for picks

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and prospects, and Stein ordered that
the Jazz have interested in John Collins.

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That would be super interesting. They're
already just trying to play five out.

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I don't know what that package looks
like. They have extra first round picks

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for days, they have salary that
they could send in and out. But

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if you're Atlanta. Who are you
really looking for here? Is this like

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you want Mollie Beasley and picks or
like is Kelly Olynik involved in that?

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I'm assuming maybe people think that they
would want lowry marketing. I'm assuming the

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Jazz want to keep lowry marketing.
The Jazz are still in first in the

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West, and if they're going to
go, imagine the Jazz getting John Collins

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and just making the wind now move
after everyone thought they were at the front

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of the line for Victor wemban Yama
this year. That would just be the

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storylines already incredible because their first in
the West. That would just be astounding

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to me. And we're talking about
their offense has been potent as hell already.

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I don't look more shooting, and
I do wonder if, like,

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can you feed him enough in this
offense to where his touches would be appreciably

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higher. I think you should get
around it. I just look at like

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you're not dealing with anyone who is
heliocentric on this team, between Colin Sexton

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and Jordan Clarkson and Mike Conley and
Larry Market and like you're not. There's

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no one who has to cannibalize all
these offensive possessions. I don't know that

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I want to see them throw it
to John Collins in the post and let

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him work there. But you could
certainly carve out more possessions with him as

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a screener. Now would I advocate
for the Jazz to do it. It

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just depends on costs because I viewed
Collins and there is a running joke here

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as infinitely scalable and can fit anywhere
on offense, and even like on Atlanta

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he could fit with what he's doing
now is just not going to be this

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glitzy role. There's not room for
it. It feels like he's buried too

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much of the time. It's just
like you're at the point in the Jazz

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rebuild where it does still feel a
little bit too early. But if the

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cost has dropped so much because they
just want to get rid of the three

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years and seventy eight point five million
left on his deal or something, because

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they know they have the Hunter extension
kicking in. They they're paying Clink Compel,

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or they thinking about de Chante Murray's
next deal. They're paying Trey Young.

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That's interesting. Maybe they consider like
on Echo Kungo or someone who could

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play with Clink Compel eventually or he's
their big guy the future, and they

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don't even they're not that married to
Capella. I honestly don't know. Collins

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was supposed to be dealt over the
summer to the Kings would have been weird,

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like the way they're playing now.
I guess what would they have the

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top offense in the league, but
I'm assuming Barnes would have been involved,

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and I do think their defense would
suffer quite a bit if you go from

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Barnes and Murray and Sabonis to Collins, Sabonis and Murray. But the King

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clearly had a vision and that was
just to assemble a crap ton of shooting

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and look ats working. They have
the second best officers in the league right

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now, so that would have been
fascinating. I would bet against them becoming

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involved again, even though Harrison Barnes
is probably been a little bit better or

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has been a little bit better recently, underachieved overall in the season. I

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would think that the Caden's aren't trying
to really rock the boat here though,

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and they already went ahead and made
the deal for Kevin Hurder. I don't

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know if it was supposed to be
part of a larger context deal like with

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both of those guys have wound up
in Sacramento very curiously what the deal would

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have looked like there, But I'm
assuming it would have been like Harrison,

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Barnes and Collins sort of as the
meat and potatoes of that deal. Seams

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did mention that the Sons might be
in on John Collins, but that they

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didn't want the three years and seventy
eight point five million dollars left on his

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deal. I'm just gonna go ahead
and say it. If they don't want

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that, then they don't want John
Collins. I don't think that deals egregious.

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Again, his role has changed a
lot. It's diminished in land,

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a lot that is not obscene money
by by any measure. For someone who

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is talented offensively as John Collins do. I think that he would be a

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great fit for Phoenix. I'd rather
see him consolidate into someone who's just more

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of a ball handler, whether they're
on the wings or a guard position.

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At this point, John Gambadoro came
out pretty forcefully and did say that the

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Sons would not be interested in and
John Collins, So I would bet against

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that, Like having been a thing, or if it was, it's probably

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the fact that it got out of
all means that it's dead in the first

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place. But this sort of moves
on to the other name. That's sort

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of banning about the trade room as
much Jay Crowder Stein wrote there was a

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good bit of buzz that Phoenix was
finally making progress on a Crowder deal,

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one that would likely land him with
one of his most ardent suitors, which

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was Milwaukee. Yet no trade materialized, and by weeks end, chattered begun

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to resurface that Atlanta remains a potential
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I guess it's like sort of a
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curious as to the framework of a
Milwaukee deal. If Grayson Allen's involved,

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like the Suns there, there has
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The Sons don't need Grayson Allen.
Was Milwaukee trading a distant first round

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pick, and I believe they can
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So like, I wouldn't give that
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they were willing to, is that
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get Jay crowd would you do if
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yourself with the additional asset, which
gets into a really interesting discussion about the

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Suns and how urgent lee should they
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the one hand, you're looking at
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there's something on that in a moment
that I found interesting too. I threw

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in here Cam Johnson out recovering from
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better over the past few games,
but Cal bridges on fire good minutes from

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Cameron Payne, Like how much do
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now? It still feels like you
could use from when you're at full strength,

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someone who is, by far and
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if you think that's Cameron Payne,
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and maybe see if you can let
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see what materializes. The name I've
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an original name, but like Eric
Gordon, seems to make so much sense

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for this team. I also wonder
can you get away with not giving a

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first round pick for him if you're
asking Houston to take on money beyond this

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season, You probably can't. But
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there in Houston, and they have
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forward types. At this point,
Jay Shawn Tait eventually come back. Usman

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Gruba has been getting minutes. They
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you know, alongside of Big almost
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Tarry Easton, who, yeah,
he's six eight, he could play the

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three, but he also play the
four. Would you be able to move

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on for Martin Gordon and like you
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Crowder and Shammitt from Phoenix, or
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maybe if you do want all expiring
money here, Dario Sarch is in the

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last year of his deal, so
you go Sharich Crowder for Gordon and Martin?

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Are you giving up? Like,
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those two salaries straight up for Gordon
Sharch and Crowder for Gordon. And then

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if you're Houston, are you're trying
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and so maybe you get Gorn without
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if your Phoenix, you can do
twenty twenty three and Scharch and Crowder for

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Gordon and Martin, and I don't
I don't hate that deal for them.

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I think kJ Martin would bring a
nice element of rim pressure to that team.

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Three point shooting can be iffy if
he's not like ultra ride open and

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firing off the catch. But I
think that's someone that they could make work

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on that roster and is a very
versatile defender, and I think he gives

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you more offense than a Joshua Kogie
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sometimes, so like you don't necessarily
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ball as much with him. But
what I like about Eric Gordon is to

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me, yes, you have CP
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can play Gordon at the three in
those situations. Would you be reluctant to

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do so? In the playoffs,
maybe you're gonna be much more likely to

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play him though than Payne with Booker
and Paul and so if Michael Bridges can

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keep this up, especially his quick
decision making, maybe you feel more confident

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in him being that third ball handler
in certain lineups, or maybe you think

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it's Cam Johnson, because hey,
if Cam Johnson, if it's Michael Bridges

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an Eton with Gordon and CP three
and Booker, it's because you're sat Cam

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Johnson. It's Gordon gonna be better
than Cam Johnson certain matchups. Honestly don't

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know. That's alnot kind of why
though, it might make more sense to

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like acquire a guard, because if
you know that you're locked in to like

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all of those five guys in your
closing lineup, that sort of the next

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thing that you would need off the
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It's easier to get that in the
guard most of the time. And this

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brings me to my point about CP
three. Monty Billie has had this quote

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over the weekend. Came from Jerald
Borgette and it was He's Monty Uli said

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this, Chris Paul is not ready
to play the way he feels he needs

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to be. We feel he's still
not there yet. Chris wants to be

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out there. You may see him
shooting, but there's a ton more to

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it than just getting up shots.
There are other things and other check marks

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that we have to get past.
When I see him shooting. I get

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excited, but we still have to
get him to a certain place. That

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sorry was via Asy Central. This
one was via Jerald Borgette. Monty Williams

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on Chris Paul's nagging sore right heel. I can't really speak to that.

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It's probably taking a bit longer than
people thought it would because we haven't heard,

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we haven't shared like what it is, and it's just how we operate.

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I find that hysterical that he's just
sort of admitting, Oh, we

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don't fucking tell you guys about injuries. It's like the Knick should sort of

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come out and do that something like
we're not going to be transparent at all,

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So fuck that. But like,
if this is more serious than we

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were led to believe, the Sun's
even thought you need like that. I

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would think that extra guard juice and
the fact that Eric Gordon is someone who

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could come in and then play alongside
CP three or Booker or both at the

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same time. Like I think he
can hold up defensively. He's stout enough,

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like just kind of like strong enough
to hold up as a three in

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certain lineups. I think it's an
ideal acquisition. And I also think it's

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ideal, not because his money comes
off the books unless you win a title

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this year, but the opportunity cost
of getting him shouldn't be more than this

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year's first round pick. And if
you're the Suns, you have to plan

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around the next star becoming available,
being on Kevin Durant's wish list, if

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and when he decides he wants another
trade from Brooklyn. And so if it

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only cost you the twenty twenty three
first, you can still build workable trade

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packages where you're not going to be
encumbered were I'm talking this season two,

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like getting a first in twenty twenty
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sort of on the standard fair.
Now, when you're looking at like that,

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if you're expecting that's the first round
picks the Nets or another team to

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glean in a superstar trade, that's
not egregious. And so if you're not

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giving up more than your twenty twenty
three first round pick or even your twenty

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twenty three first round pick, or
maybe you're able to structure it so you're

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not gonna need this, but it's
protected for X this year and then it

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turns into two seconds, like there's
no rollover. So you're unencumbering yourself even

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more in future trades. That would
seem to make a lot of sense.

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There are no other names that could
be out there. Maybe they're on a

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smaller scale. Maybe Phoenix believes that
they can sort of navigate this regular season

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stretch because they're a machine and reevaluate
at the trade deadline. I'm not against

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that either. I think a move
needs to be made at some point though,

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and I've really liked Eric Gordon for
this team for a while. I

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don't know that I would give up
a first round pick alone on its face

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for a half season of Eric Gordon. But if you throw kJ Martin in

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there, I do think things would
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And I've been through other Phoenix on
his trade targets, so you can

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go check out. That was a
segment on both podcasts and YouTube, so

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you could look for it. I
will say just the name that I would

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watch if he's healthy, which I
don't know how healthy was going to be.

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I thought Cody Martin would be a
really good fit in Charlotte, and

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he's out right now, so he's
not a really good fit. But that

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would just be again another name where
it's not bankrupting you of your assets.

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You're still keeping yourself flexible and asset
rich for future deals. But the Jay

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Crowder stuff beyond well, I really
want to know what the framework of that

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Milwaukee trade reportedly was Atlanta for Crowder. I want to know what they're giving

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up, Like, are they trading
another pick? There are only a select

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few picks that they can trade after
giving up de Jean Day Murray. Where

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they giving up Jo and Johnson in
that deal? And is that a team

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that like is he someone who intrigues
Phoenix there? And there needs to be

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other money involved on top of that
too, So I'm still very curious where

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Jay Crowder ends up. And I
guess the Suns a play well enough to

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where there doesn't need to be urgency. I guess I'm a little bit surprised

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that there's not more urgency though,
But also this could just be a matter

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and not to you know, use
the butt word like eighty times of just

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letting the trademarket develop. Closer to
December fifteenth, We're almost We're almost,

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they are, folks, It's like
less than four weeks away. So that

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might be what teams or what the
Suns are sort of thinking it don't know.

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And also Jay Crowder's value is I
guess it's not getting any lower.

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It's also not getting any higher,
Like it's I'm just bottomed out because he's

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not with the team, and so
I'm still very intrigued to see where he

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ends up. And I would be
very curious into the framework of that reported

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Milwaukee deal. The Knicks, surprise, surprise, were involved in some trade

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rumors. They apparently are This is
Pert Michael's Scoto of Hoops Hype. They're

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reluctant to part with the first round
pick to move off Evan four days contract.

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He's one guaranteed season after this one, and then the fourth year of

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his contracts the team option. He's
basically fallen out of the Knicks' rotation and

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so you're not boosting his trade value
by doing that, and he's owed almost

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nineteen million next year. Also this
Persecojo, it's believed that Emmanuel Quickly and

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Derrick Rose are available as well as
Miles McBride. Because of how crowded the

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backcourt is in New York. That
is, I guess somewhat interesting. I

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would if you're moving Derrick Rose is
fine He even said he doesn't know what

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his place on this team is.
Maybe there are teams that could actually use

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him to if they think they're gonna
be able to get fifteen to twenty minutes

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reliably out of him per game for
the rest of the season. And his

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contract, it's he only had two
guaranteed years, so this is you know,

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he's functionally an expiring contract. Quickly's
interesting. Offense has been all over

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the place, defensive effort has been
really good this year. Your backcourt rotation

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is not so stuffed that it's like, hey, let's get rid of Quickly

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and Rose and McBride. And so
I'm thinking it's moved one of these guys,

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and Rose would make the most sense
there. I wonder if the Knicks

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would use Quickly if it meant getting
off a four days contract. That feels

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a little bit just like selling too
low on ammanual Quickly there, But I

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could see a point given out well
Jalen Brunson is played. And also I

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don't know if this is trying to
gear more of the teams toward Julius Randall,

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but it also could help to give
RJ. Barrett some more run as

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the primary ball handler. With more
shooters around him. RJ. Barrett plus

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Pench lineups. R J. Barrett
plus lineups independent of Julius Randall's basically what

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I'm getting at. So maybe that
would be the logic behind trading Derek Rose

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and Immanuel Quickly And like Myles McBride, I'm just we know the Knicks have

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designs on bigger fish than just like
sort of this trade where they're clearing out

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of rotation spot unless their season just
sort of completely takes a nose dive and

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they decide like, oh, we're
gonna rebuild. Quickly's name is just it

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feels like being undervalued by New York
or that Quickly is the one that might

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want out of New York because it's
gonna be extension knowledgeable, just like Obi

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after the season and his role has
been probably more steadier than ever this year,

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but not understanding where you stand to
the relative to the rest of the

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organization that actually get frustrating. There
have been nights where what was the game

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it was like a week or two
ago at this point where like you just

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tips the sides like no, like, yeah, Derek Rose is our guy

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to come off the bench first,
So it's just the Knicks are really tough

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to read with what they would be
doing on the trade market. I just

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don't to me, maybe Quickly's reputation
has been inflated a little bit by playing

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in New York. But I do
think he's more than just this afterthought.

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He's been a better defender, I
think than a lot of people will realize.

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And if you give him like more
space to operate, I think that

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he ends up being not a floor
general, but that we see his offs

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of value ascend and then also sort
of level off or be more steady,

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more reliable than it has been in
New York. Going to dive into I

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already did check out the video of
the biggest disappointment from every NBA team,

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an article published by my co worker
Zach Buckley over a Bleach report. He

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did the inverse of that every team's
biggest surprise for the start of this season.

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Let's go through those trying to do
this very quickly and see what again

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live reaction haven't seen this yet,
and just see what he came up with,

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what we agree, what we disagree
with, and let's just generally go

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off. Okay, we are onto
the Atlanta Hawks winning with defense. I

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would say that that's probably a fair
surprise as well. I think when you

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look at the roster, you might
expect them to skew towards offense. They've

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only been sixteenth in point score per
possession, though a lot of that has

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been just really bad shooting. Don't
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defense meanwhile, it might be a
little bit of shooting luck caked in.

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This is a team that doesn't force
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still, yeah count me. Look, they have their point differentials like only

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plus point seven prone hundred possessions,
but top eight. I thought their offense

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still would have performed their defense at
my point, even after the Kevin Herder

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trading him and then acquiring Jante Murray
Boston Celtic Sam Houser's ascension from afterthought to

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asset us people in Boston, they
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is just a capslock bold text Italic
shooter, and he's got real motion to

404
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:26,359
him as well. So definitely their
most I guess performer that you would have

405
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:32,359
not definitely predicted to stand out that
did Brooklynnett's Edmund Sumner the difference maker.

406
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:33,599
Yeah, look, He's had some
pretty rough games where I thought he was

407
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,559
dribbling too much. But this guy
is comfortable getting out transition, putting the

408
00:24:37,559 --> 00:24:40,400
ball in his hand, attacking in
the half court. I'm not sure that

409
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,599
you would have thought he needed to
be such a critical part of the Nets

410
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:47,720
rotation this year either. Some injuries
definitely opened the door for that. But

411
00:24:47,799 --> 00:24:49,599
he's been really good and just a
high energy player for them because we moved

412
00:24:49,599 --> 00:24:53,400
around a lot on the defensive end
as well. The Seon Hornets Dennis Smith

413
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,960
J're making good things happen. Yeah, it's like the defense Dennis Smith Junior

414
00:24:57,039 --> 00:24:59,880
last time I checked, was like
in the top five or seven of the

415
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elections per game. He's been setting
up the offense really well. This is

416
00:25:03,519 --> 00:25:07,599
by far not just the biggest surprise
in the Hornets, but it's, you

417
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,759
know, the one of the He's
one of the biggest surprise in the NBA.

418
00:25:11,799 --> 00:25:15,799
He said that he was going to
consider an NFL career just just a

419
00:25:15,799 --> 00:25:18,920
few months before, so just everything
better finishing at the rim for him and

420
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,160
also lowering his turnover rate. The
Chicago Bulls, Goran Dragas got his groove

421
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:26,680
back. It's almost like the MAVs
wanting to sign him and play every third

422
00:25:26,759 --> 00:25:30,599
day was one of the dumbest things
that you heard over the offseason, because

423
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,920
that's in fact what it was.
It's uncomfortable how much the Bulls have needed

424
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,720
Goran Dragets this year, but it's
also just like giving him a steadying as

425
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,319
a steadying presence, someone who's been
able to do things to the ball in

426
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,279
his hand but also play well off
others a little bit. Uh, it

427
00:25:44,279 --> 00:25:48,000
feels like Gorn Drags excuse me,
is an impact player once more after sort

428
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:52,839
of the past two years of hovering
between and then certainly last year when he

429
00:25:52,839 --> 00:25:56,720
just doesn't even really play is buried
in Toronto for most of the season.

430
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:02,319
So just like the reports there I
guess, or did he report I can't

431
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,720
remember, but I'm shocked at how
well he's playing. But it's still equally

432
00:26:04,759 --> 00:26:07,119
shocked at the MAVs wanted to sign
him only to play like five minutes a

433
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game or every third days. Just
an age thirty six year old who's really

434
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putting together some of my sufficiency in
like sub twenty minutes a night. But

435
00:26:14,279 --> 00:26:18,480
that's fine. Cleveland Cavaliers Dean Wade
making a leap this is This is still

436
00:26:18,519 --> 00:26:22,240
surprising. I think he's immerged,
just like the definitive. Yeah, we

437
00:26:22,319 --> 00:26:23,960
need to he would have to close
when he's healthy. He's going to close

438
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,039
it the three for us, and
that's how it should be. I thought

439
00:26:26,039 --> 00:26:30,799
maybe Isaaca Coro, who's been a
disaster on offense, and then maybe even

440
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,240
Jenny Osman or Charasi Vert would work
their way into that conversation or we'd be

441
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:37,039
let's think it's reclamoring for the Cavs
to make a trade more urgently than we

442
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:41,000
have. They've had some just iffy
moments of late, but this guy is

443
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,400
twenty five and he's just sort of
everywhere he needs to be on defense,

444
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,000
knocking down his threes. Dallas Maverick
Spencer to what he doesn't miss it from

445
00:26:48,039 --> 00:26:52,720
distance their biggest surprise. Yeah,
I wrote off, not didn't write off,

446
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,119
but I wrote off Spencer to be
shooting as just sort of this late

447
00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:00,240
season anomaly with the Mavericks. He's
tantalized with efficient outside shooting in the asked

448
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,279
only to see it regress. He's
kept it up this year. This is

449
00:27:03,319 --> 00:27:07,359
just like you know, someone who's
a career thirty two point two percent shooter,

450
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,119
and now he's at forty five point
nine percent and Perbuckly, that is

451
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,400
wild. Will he keep it up, We'll have to see. The Mavericks

452
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:15,920
certainly need him too, because they
don't have a ton of other options to

453
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,400
just reliably score. Let forget about
dribbling. Even though he's one of the

454
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,680
two most important ball handlers on the
roster, they just don't have a ton

455
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,880
of people who can consistently stretch the
floor at the moment, like we've seen

456
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:32,279
maxic Cleland go through some rough stretches
Diddal Forreggie Bullock and also Tim Hardaway Hardaway

457
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,519
Junior as well. So he's been
hyper important, definitely out for my expectation.

458
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:41,079
Deveren his bones highlands outside the arc
touch I'm gonna disagree here. He

459
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:47,039
was such a good shooter last season, Mike off the dribble as a spot

460
00:27:47,079 --> 00:27:49,440
up guy. There was just some
really good live dribble passing from him as

461
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:53,000
well. So and I've actually been
disappointed in some of the decisions he's made

462
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,680
inside the arc this year, and
he's been I feel like almost worst defensively,

463
00:27:56,759 --> 00:27:59,400
or maybe I'm just more keyed in
onto his flaws. I don't have

464
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,039
to say just like Christian Brown playing
a role on this team would be most

465
00:28:03,039 --> 00:28:07,640
surprising for me, or maybe even
the Nuggets being so bad protecting the basket

466
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:11,599
this year, just because it's not
Nicolea Yoki's fault, but they're allowing over

467
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,000
seventy percent over a seventy percent conversion
rate at the rim. Yes, Is

468
00:28:15,079 --> 00:28:18,759
Yoki's responsible for that because you have
to bring him up so high for him

469
00:28:18,759 --> 00:28:22,160
to work defensively, Yes, But
I thought they just had enough talent behind

470
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,440
him to where that wasn't going to
be as huge of an issue. So

471
00:28:25,599 --> 00:28:27,799
Bone's been great, But I'm not
really surprised. I mean, whatever number

472
00:28:27,799 --> 00:28:30,440
even's Michael Porter Jr. Okay,
he was shooting it at the store clipped

473
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:34,079
from three for a while. That
doesn't surprise me. Detroit Pistons the rookies

474
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:38,000
readiness, Yeah, I think that's
fair. John and During specifically, whatever

475
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,319
you thought of Jay and Ivy,
We're gonna get to see more run with

476
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,039
him independent of Kade now that kid's
dealing with that shin injury. But I've

477
00:28:45,079 --> 00:28:48,160
been really impressed with Joel and Durran
just looks ready to sort of make an

478
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:52,839
impact, changing shots around the basket
and just looks like he is a going

479
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,519
to be like a dominant finisher when
he gets going downhill and if teammates could

480
00:28:56,559 --> 00:29:00,799
find him. So I have been
from what i've scene of Jones during just

481
00:29:00,839 --> 00:29:03,039
absolutely blown away. And it's not
it doesn't look like somebody's just sort of

482
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,000
capitalizing on his physical tools, but
that there's actual feel there was Jay and

483
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,440
Ivy. I still just want to
see how him and Kate are gonna work

484
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,000
out long term. But I think
he's been really good. When you look

485
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,000
at him, I see people Comparemon
and John Morant. I see the vision

486
00:29:15,079 --> 00:29:18,480
sometimes with him as a passer and
some of the things he does after he

487
00:29:18,519 --> 00:29:19,519
leaves his feet. So I get
it. That was a good one.

488
00:29:19,559 --> 00:29:23,799
Buck Cold and Stay Worris Stephen Curry
posting several career marks. I would probably

489
00:29:23,799 --> 00:29:27,200
say the well, so we have
to it's positive surprises, which why dever

490
00:29:27,319 --> 00:29:30,240
Nuggets room protection wouldn't have worked.
The Christian Brown roll would still bid it

491
00:29:30,319 --> 00:29:33,759
for me. That kind of has
to be good. Cold State. I

492
00:29:33,799 --> 00:29:36,799
would say Anthony Lamb being like,
you know, the seventh most important player

493
00:29:36,839 --> 00:29:40,160
in their rotation to date this season
was probably a surprise, but he's been

494
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:44,319
dominant, like he's gonna third thirty
five by the end of this year.

495
00:29:44,319 --> 00:29:48,680
It's his age thirty four campaign,
and he's just absolutely annihilating defenses. And

496
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,480
the Warriors are killing opponents when he's
on the floor. Surprise, surprise,

497
00:29:51,519 --> 00:29:55,400
they're getting trucked when he's off.
He belongs to the MPP discussion. To

498
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:56,720
be this good at age thirty four, I think that's even by his standards,

499
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:02,240
it's been surprising Houston rockets the often
of output of defensive specialists. Chari

500
00:30:02,319 --> 00:30:04,839
Eason, Yeah, for sure,
he's gonna be a three point shooting and

501
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,759
then some like some really just hit
some really tough layups and nice runners.

502
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,400
He's in great Usman Gruba shooting eighty
seven plus percent from three, a whopping

503
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,039
seven of eight, making some really
nice passes. We've seen him put the

504
00:30:15,039 --> 00:30:18,039
ball on the floor, seems to
be processing things at a higher speed.

505
00:30:18,319 --> 00:30:22,240
So I think you could absolutely go
this route for them. That was a

506
00:30:22,279 --> 00:30:26,480
fantastic pick. Buckley the Yeah,
this was a great one. Indiana Pacers

507
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,359
elite offense. Yeah, I just
think you looked at the roster and thought

508
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,359
they were more on the inexperienced side
that it was. Oh Okay, this

509
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,960
team was just naturally gonna be bad, and instead they're excuse me, nine

510
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,119
and six, and they have the
ninth best offense, pumping in one hundred

511
00:30:41,119 --> 00:30:45,440
and fourteen point seven points per one
hundred possessions. They're really good offensive rebounding

512
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,279
team. Then you turn the ball
over a lot, they get the line

513
00:30:48,319 --> 00:30:52,039
a good amount. Two They also
they're out and transition a bunch. I

514
00:30:52,079 --> 00:30:55,799
believe they are out and transition the
second most of any team in the league.

515
00:30:55,839 --> 00:30:57,839
So they played pretty fast their seventh
and average offensive possession time. I

516
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:02,720
know that because I just something about
it. Yeah, I didn't see this

517
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:03,680
coming, you could. I thought
Albert was gonna be good. But Benned

518
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:08,039
Nick Mathren averaging over nineteen points a
game on sixty plus true shooting. He's

519
00:31:08,039 --> 00:31:11,640
just been absolutely great, like with
the ball in his hands, without the

520
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,920
ball in his hands. So yeah, that's definitely been their biggest surprise.

521
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,920
Maybe some of the stuff Miles Turners
did, but he's only been healthy a

522
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:23,039
short time. The Clippers John Wall
looks like John Waugh, sure, I

523
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,839
think, yeah, But he's been
like one of the worst shooters in the

524
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:32,480
league this year from mid range and
three point range maybe has to be expected.

525
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,599
The on ball speed is still intact, though, so I think that's

526
00:31:34,599 --> 00:31:37,359
fair. And look, let's let's
be honest, we're kind of hard up

527
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:41,960
for good surprises and Clippers land this
year. Their performance has normalized recently,

528
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,079
and their defense has been dominant,
And that might be the other thing that

529
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:49,319
I know that they're built to defend, but like they are second in points

530
00:31:49,359 --> 00:31:53,519
allowed per possession, and they don't
force turnovers, they don't fail. I

531
00:31:53,559 --> 00:31:56,920
guess you would expect that they're not
like super hyper aggressive. They're just blanketing.

532
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:01,400
And then you have a lot of
old and slower wings or interchangeable guys

533
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,880
the front court. But it's just
it's working for them. And so I

534
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:09,079
would say second in defense given how
much time KWHI Leonard is myths, and

535
00:32:09,119 --> 00:32:14,000
then also given how reliant they are
on a John Wall Reggie Jackson, that's

536
00:32:14,039 --> 00:32:16,599
been a bigger surprise to me.
The Lakers, Lonnie Walker the fourth making

537
00:32:16,599 --> 00:32:20,880
good on his potential? Is it
that? Is it Austin Reeves? Is

538
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,680
it Russ kind of looking at home
off the bench? I think could be

539
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,160
any of these things. Lonnie Walker
the fourth is a good one, though

540
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:30,400
I will say I wrote about this. I was flabbergasted how well he's fitting

541
00:32:30,799 --> 00:32:32,640
to the larger context of the offense, where it's like, yeah, he

542
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,319
can do his on ball stuff,
but he's been moving really well without the

543
00:32:36,359 --> 00:32:37,920
ball too, and I just viewed
him as someone wouldn't be able to do

544
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:44,119
that, especially within the confined spaces
of the Lakers offense. Menvis grisly,

545
00:32:44,119 --> 00:32:47,480
he's Desmond's being shot creation. I
think this is the answer, because we

546
00:32:47,559 --> 00:32:51,480
know how good Desmond Band was from
last year, but now he's taking even

547
00:32:51,519 --> 00:32:53,480
more of his baskets are going on
assisted, and we are someone who's like,

548
00:32:53,599 --> 00:32:57,559
I think he's tripled or doubled the
number of picking rolls that he's running

549
00:32:57,759 --> 00:33:01,559
per game or something just an absurd
like that. So he's took a rookie

550
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:06,759
to sophomore leap and then made another
leap on top of that, like we

551
00:33:06,839 --> 00:33:10,759
don't. You don't normally see two
gargage Wan leaps consecutively from players who like

552
00:33:10,839 --> 00:33:15,319
weren't build as stars to begin with. He was his rookie season, he

553
00:33:15,359 --> 00:33:20,960
was this modestly bordering, unsparingly used
specialty shooter, and now he's the grizzlies

554
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,079
second most important half court creator.
He's out right now, but like that

555
00:33:24,279 --> 00:33:28,079
is just not a transition I ever
saw coming shout out to Desmond Bay.

556
00:33:28,119 --> 00:33:31,640
He's fantastic. Miami Heat, Max
Shru's taking another leap. I think you

557
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:36,640
have to go with this one just
because the Heat have been I guess wildly

558
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,960
disappointing. Overall, half court offense
is kind of a mess. They definitely

559
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:44,079
miss PG. Tucker Bam is not
taking a step on offense. Lowry's been

560
00:33:44,119 --> 00:33:47,079
touching go. I know they've dealt
with some injuries and absences this season.

561
00:33:47,119 --> 00:33:51,079
Victor Oldiepo hasn't even played yet.
I think he can maybe also go as

562
00:33:51,079 --> 00:33:53,039
Tyler Hero sort of impressed, Like
maybe his numbers have come down a little

563
00:33:53,039 --> 00:33:55,839
bit, but he's been Everyone thought
he was going to transition to more of

564
00:33:55,839 --> 00:34:00,319
like sort of this off ball role. He's not as focused on passing year,

565
00:34:00,359 --> 00:34:02,119
but he's really he's been slinging it
for a lot. Maybe that's just

566
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:07,079
not surprising to you after watching him
his entire career, but he's been like

567
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,719
kind of on fire for most of
the season off the dribble. But like

568
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,440
the Heat, as that Buckey wrote, they're like a worse version of last

569
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:19,840
season squads that they're not really impacting, they're not really shocking or along anybody

570
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,280
Walkee Bucks Javon carter understanding the assignment. Is that a surprise? I guess

571
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:28,000
like the way he's playing is just
very Javonne Cartery. But this is another

572
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,239
team that's sort of hard up for
surprises because they are who we expected them

573
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:35,920
to be, and that's pretty dominant. Even though they've had they've they've lost

574
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,320
a few games that might make you, you know, get your attention.

575
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:42,840
Then Jannis has been struggling from the
fallin sub sixty percent. There been struggling

576
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,519
from me outside as well. Shooting
like under thirty percent from mid range,

577
00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:49,760
under thirty percent on three has not
looked great. I think what I would

578
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,320
also go with is that there this
is surprising to me that they are such

579
00:34:52,599 --> 00:34:57,760
so good at defending both the rim
and the three point line right now,

580
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,360
like we just don't they have They're
the third best protecting team in the league,

581
00:35:00,519 --> 00:35:05,639
and then they're limiting the amount of
shots that their opponents are taking from

582
00:35:05,679 --> 00:35:08,320
three this year their fourth So there, when you're looking at volume, let's

583
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:12,440
do it this way. They ranking
the top five of both a volume allowed

584
00:35:12,519 --> 00:35:15,280
both at the rim and from the
three point line. That is really really

585
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,400
hard to do. And if I
had to guess, they're the only team

586
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,000
that's doing it right now, No, Boston, Boston, Milwaukee, which

587
00:35:22,039 --> 00:35:25,960
is just funny because Boston's defense without
Robert Williams a third, maybe because they're

588
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:30,320
not forcing as many turnovers, it
has pulled back a bit. But I

589
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,280
think that's my bigger surprise Forlwaukee because
I look at Jevon Carter, him playing

590
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:36,800
such a big role. I get
it, but we've seen him do this

591
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:38,840
before. It's just that he didn't
do it in Brooklyn. He did it

592
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:43,360
for a time in Phoenix. So
I'm gonna go with the how the Bucks

593
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,679
were like all of a sudden,
just like limiting three point attempts when they

594
00:35:45,679 --> 00:35:47,960
were giving those up readily for so
long. Minnesota, timber Mostry and Princess

595
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:52,800
Sizzling slash line. I think that's
fair. There's a team that's like,

596
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:57,119
probably hasn't too many other surprises if
you wanted to go with some of the

597
00:35:57,119 --> 00:36:00,599
playoff Jellen Noelle or even Jordan McLoughlin
at points, but now we're sort of

598
00:36:00,599 --> 00:36:04,079
reaching. John Well cooled off after
a pretty hot start, So I think

599
00:36:04,119 --> 00:36:07,039
this is the answer. And Tory
Prince kind of showed signs of life last

600
00:36:07,119 --> 00:36:09,840
year, and now you're talking about
someone who's going for over forty two percent

601
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:14,000
of his threes when that had sort
of been dragged down a bit in previous

602
00:36:14,119 --> 00:36:16,800
levels. At his Buckley notes,
he's like kind of slashing fifty forty ninety

603
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,280
at the moment. Not a huge
free throw guy in terms of volume,

604
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:24,880
we're shooting over nine there. This
is the He's really critical to their spacing

605
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,760
because that's the team that still needs
it is figuring themselves out on the offensive

606
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,360
end. Pelicans Trey Murphy's emergence for
New Orleans. Yeah, I think people

607
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:37,199
sort of saw flashes of this last
season, but he's outplayed Herb Jones at

608
00:36:37,199 --> 00:36:39,000
this point. I'm not sure that
a lot of people expected that to happen,

609
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:43,559
So I would think that's definitely a
surprise. And he's shown everything from

610
00:36:43,599 --> 00:36:46,119
just motion shooting, to being able
to defend up and down the positional spectrum

611
00:36:46,159 --> 00:36:50,159
to even just sort of having like
some quick decision making with the ball on

612
00:36:50,199 --> 00:36:52,360
his hands. So I think za's
definitely it. There're certainly not a rosy

613
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,360
or surprise unless you want to focus
on Jose Alvarado. I guess you could

614
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:59,519
go there, New York Knicks,
Tims Trucks, the top a rattel.

615
00:37:00,519 --> 00:37:05,480
He first busted out against the Sixers
a while ago when there was no Embiid,

616
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,039
no hard and the Knicks were down. If you able to come back.

617
00:37:07,079 --> 00:37:10,840
The numbers on that lineup are not
great. But he has gone to

618
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:15,320
it a little or I would say
a lot more often because it was relative

619
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:20,599
to never going to it. That's
probably the biggest surprise that he's gone there.

620
00:37:20,599 --> 00:37:22,679
I mean, because it's certainly not
he hasn't staggered Randall and RJ Barrett

621
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,840
enough. I think John Brunts has
been fantastic, But did you really expect

622
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:30,320
that you could go with RJ Barrett's
finishing. He's been terrible by it.

623
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,199
If you look at his go back, look at r J Barrett his first

624
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,679
five games, that his next seven, and then his last five. Just

625
00:37:37,079 --> 00:37:39,719
such a roller coaster this year.
But if he wanted to focus on his

626
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,159
finishing, which is now dropped,
it was up for a second. So

627
00:37:43,199 --> 00:37:46,239
that really can't be it now that
I think about it. So what is

628
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:51,400
the what is the pleasant surprise for
the knicks Manuel Quickly's defense. I think

629
00:37:51,679 --> 00:37:54,440
he just looks like he's been like
one of their feistiest or v fistiest perimeter

630
00:37:54,519 --> 00:37:58,039
defender that they've had this year.
So do you go ahead? Maybe some

631
00:37:58,159 --> 00:38:01,400
Cam's reddish emergence too. He's played
some really hyper engaged minutes when he's been

632
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:06,440
given the opportunity for them. I
think I would lean more swords to one

633
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,199
of those two just because Tims hasn't
I would say, consistently tried to the

634
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:15,440
top end Randall lineup. That's so
I would slightly disagree there. I did

635
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:16,960
that. It wasn't good for a
laugh, Oklahoma, said he shaygold Stosander

636
00:38:17,039 --> 00:38:21,760
joined the MVP race. I think
you can go with Alexei pokers Chefsky being

637
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,800
so good this year. But yeah, Shay Goosander, as we recorded this

638
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,679
has been a top ten player.
He was fifth in my last MVP ladder.

639
00:38:29,119 --> 00:38:31,000
No one predicted that twenty percent of
the way through the season. As

640
00:38:31,039 --> 00:38:34,719
high as anyone was on Sander,
I thought I was pretty high. No

641
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,480
one predicted that. That's easy.
He's just been mind meltingly brilliant is the

642
00:38:37,519 --> 00:38:39,880
only way to describe it. And
the thunder of winning the minutes he's on

643
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:44,400
the court. By the way,
Orlando Magic bow balls breakout. Yeah,

644
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:45,599
there's people who are just like,
why do we need Victor win b Nama

645
00:38:45,639 --> 00:38:50,679
win bow balls already in the league. His value when you look at his

646
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,079
ball skills, it's just sort of
a wing type on offense. He's giving

647
00:38:52,119 --> 00:38:57,719
you some defensive disruption as well,
but it looks really fluid and just like

648
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:01,239
it's coming together this season, and
some of the layups he can finish from

649
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:05,320
like it feels like eighteen feet out
and he's just able to finger roll it

650
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,159
in. He's been great, and
yeah, I thought, I guess I

651
00:39:08,159 --> 00:39:10,519
thought his career was over, but
they resigned him. It was to an

652
00:39:10,519 --> 00:39:14,800
Afterthorp deal, and I didn't think
there's gonna be a pathway to minutes for

653
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:16,800
him, and like injuries have sort
of carved out away. I don't think

654
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:21,280
we ever should have banked on Jonathan
Isaac being available, like Palaman Carol missing

655
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,039
some time. But I'm just like, immediately usurping Mobamba in the rotation.

656
00:39:24,159 --> 00:39:28,559
Yeah, easy, And he's been
great for Orlando. Philadephi seventy six ers

657
00:39:28,599 --> 00:39:32,400
dominant defense. I'm going to say
yes because they fucking sucked in transition to

658
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:36,239
start the year, and their numbers
haven't even all the way rebounded. But

659
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,639
you look at how injured they've been, Joel, we missed sometime and he's

660
00:39:38,639 --> 00:39:43,159
about to miss more time. And
then you were playing with James Harden a

661
00:39:43,159 --> 00:39:46,079
bunch. Maxie feels like he has
regressed on the defensive end since his rookie

662
00:39:46,119 --> 00:39:50,000
season. We even since last year. Yes, you did at PJ.

663
00:39:50,119 --> 00:39:52,280
Tucker, you have the anti Melt
and you have Daniel House. But I

664
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,239
think you just look at the names
on this roster and it's it's like,

665
00:39:55,320 --> 00:40:00,320
okay, well Harden and beat Maxie. That's going to be an offensive Enny.

666
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,400
No. I mean, the Sixers
have been wildly uninventive on the offensive

667
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,320
end, but they're fourth now in
points allowed per possession on defense. They're

668
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,639
also just like they're forcing a ship
ton of turnovers. And I think you

669
00:40:10,639 --> 00:40:17,719
look at the personnel. Tucker Melton
even like Maxie being there, Daniel House

670
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,199
having forgotten about him, but many
minutes that Paul read gets, plus Joel

671
00:40:22,199 --> 00:40:23,719
Embid, I guess we should have
seen it. But they're in the top

672
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:29,360
seven of both opponent effective field goal
percentage and turnovers forced. That's big for

673
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,000
them. So I do think that's
been a surprise. I don't really know

674
00:40:31,039 --> 00:40:35,800
that you could look at a player
singular player though and think otherwise. Though

675
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,039
maybe Joel Embiid just putting up like
Will Chamberlain like numbers when he came back

676
00:40:38,039 --> 00:40:43,920
from the first injury, Phoenix Sons, michaelbrid just going berserk. I yes,

677
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,159
so it's a surprise because I kind
of thought like and we had talked

678
00:40:46,159 --> 00:40:50,159
about on the podcast, and all
of a sudden he starts exploding immediately afterwards,

679
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,199
not him settling down, running a
ton of picking rolls, which people

680
00:40:52,199 --> 00:40:57,000
wondered if he could do. He
is just super aggressive, making decisions so

681
00:40:57,079 --> 00:40:59,119
quick on the ball, not just
in terms of moving it, but now

682
00:40:59,159 --> 00:41:02,320
actually looking to school, firing off
threes, get moving with the ball in

683
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:06,039
his hands, and actually putting pressure
on the defense, maybe not getting all

684
00:41:06,039 --> 00:41:07,800
the way the basket, but putting
the defenses in rotation or forcing them to

685
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,719
react. That's a big surprise.
I think you get to a point where,

686
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,719
oh, year, where was it
five of Mchael Bridges, and it's

687
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,039
just like, oh, he's going
to be he might be your like fifth

688
00:41:16,039 --> 00:41:20,440
best offensive player, but no,
there've been nights now, especially for Chris

689
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,239
Paul out he's propped up the help
prop up the Suns of their second best

690
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:27,559
offensive player. I will say,
I feel like the bigger surprise for me

691
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,519
has been just the overall depth,
the fact that they've been able to navigate

692
00:41:30,559 --> 00:41:34,320
no j Crowder, no Chris Paul, cam Johnson also getting injured, and

693
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,320
like Tory Craig is stepping up Jock
Landale like, oh no, he didn't

694
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,159
play the other night, but he's
also just giving you really solid minutes.

695
00:41:39,159 --> 00:41:42,599
But we're gonna give a look to
Bismack Biyama, which Wayne Rights come in

696
00:41:42,639 --> 00:41:45,599
and he's really tough to get by. On defense, we've gotten some really

697
00:41:45,599 --> 00:41:49,559
big minutes from Damian Leo will throw
Joshua Kogi in there to try and juice

698
00:41:49,599 --> 00:41:52,760
up our stopping power. Their depth
is surprising more than anything. I thought

699
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,079
they were a very top heavy team, and I think the talent discrepancy still

700
00:41:55,079 --> 00:42:00,280
implies that, but they're deeper than
advertised. It turns out Poland Trailblazers the

701
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:05,320
top ten defensive I mean, yeah, all things Blazers there. On the

702
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,119
defense, they've played small when they
play big with Nurkis at the five.

703
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:12,679
Obviously, they've just been able to
make things happen, and they are currently

704
00:42:12,679 --> 00:42:14,960
as we record this, they have
phone outside the top ten. They are

705
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:16,719
top eleven, but that's still higher
than I would have pegged them. For

706
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:22,280
opponent they are twentieth and opponent affective
field goal percentage, but they don't force

707
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:23,840
turnovers a ton. They're also not
fouling a ton. They do a pretty

708
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,920
good job on the defensive glass.
I think they just have a lot of

709
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,599
really high IQ guys. When you
look at defensively, Josh Hart, Jeremy

710
00:42:31,599 --> 00:42:35,840
Grant, Nurkis knows how to play
in the coverage that you throw him in.

711
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,480
I think Anfrey Simon's Damian Lillard both
been better this year. Not to

712
00:42:38,519 --> 00:42:42,079
say they've been the driving force behind
the defense, but I think they've both

713
00:42:42,159 --> 00:42:45,599
been better, and Dame has been
I think he's still out. I don't

714
00:42:45,599 --> 00:42:47,199
think he returned. He was out
for one or two weeks. I think

715
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:52,159
it certainly helps, like giving the
some of the different looks with having Watford

716
00:42:52,199 --> 00:42:54,000
and Justice Swinslow and Drew u Banks, like all of those guys have been

717
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:58,800
able to give him good varying minutes
in the front court. I'm absolutely floor

718
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,480
as the defensive perform it. If
you were told me Gabrol eleventh sixteen games

719
00:43:01,519 --> 00:43:06,239
into the season and Gary Payton the
second still hadn't played, I would have

720
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:07,599
just told you that you were lying
to me. I probably would have said

721
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,360
some more choice words, like you
were a fucking idiot. Z Acrimino.

722
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:14,239
Kings Kevin Hrder can't miss. Yeah, this is just like he is,

723
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,880
like an effective field goal percentage of
a million on off the dribble looks right

724
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:22,119
now. I think that's a fair
surprise. Is it could also be Darren

725
00:43:22,199 --> 00:43:24,599
Fox and during all NBA territory.
Could it also be just that the Kings

726
00:43:24,639 --> 00:43:29,960
are second overall in point score possession. Maybe you're not too shocked by that

727
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:35,440
when you look at the talent on
this roster, but like second point scorper

728
00:43:35,559 --> 00:43:37,639
was the second, like only behind
Boston. Boston being one in itself is

729
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:42,960
kind of disarming. So there,
and the Kings have the top effective field

730
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,719
goal percentage in the league. They
don't turn the ball over either, getting

731
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:49,719
to the line of bunch. I
think the macro of their offense is most

732
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,480
surprising. Maybe it shouldn't be because
they were built to score with the bonus

733
00:43:52,599 --> 00:43:58,280
and Fox and Monk and Herder Barnes
coming around a little bit now, and

734
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,880
then Kagan Murray's been solid for them. So yeah, I guess Herd has

735
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:06,599
been the most surprising player unless you
just kind of thought darreon Fox was what

736
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,199
he was and that was a human
roller coaster and wasn't going to enter sure

737
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:15,639
fire all star slash potential All NBA
territory. But yeah, I fade this

738
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,519
one too, and it's probably pretty
actur. I think either or there Santatonto's

739
00:44:19,519 --> 00:44:24,280
first trade, Jones taking it all
in stride. Maybe maybe this is just

740
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:28,440
like he is clearly their best game
manager. Someone who doesn't turn the ball

741
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,639
over is going to give you a
steady number of assists. It hits some

742
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:35,719
nice midrane jumpers. I'm gonna go
with Devin Missel though he's not necessarily slowing

743
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,079
down and orchestrating the entire offense,
but he's been one of the most efficient

744
00:44:38,199 --> 00:44:43,639
pick and roll scorers in the entire
MBA. That's not that's like, I'm

745
00:44:43,679 --> 00:44:45,119
not lying to you. He was
averaging last time I checked, he was

746
00:44:45,199 --> 00:44:49,760
like averaging one point one two points
per possession as a pick and roll ball

747
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,360
handler, which is ridiculously high.
That has surprised me more than Trey Jones,

748
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:59,960
who was sort of that studying presence
last year as well. Toronto Raptors

749
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:05,159
Pasco scacom chasing second Most Improved Player
award. This is spicy buck. Is

750
00:45:05,199 --> 00:45:07,880
he in the conversation for that,
man? I don't know if he's in

751
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:12,039
the conversation for a second for say, second most Improved Player award, And

752
00:45:12,039 --> 00:45:15,159
the fact that he's injured, like
that's not going to help whatever case he's

753
00:45:15,199 --> 00:45:19,519
making, whether it's for MVP just
by virtue of volume, but the spiciness

754
00:45:19,599 --> 00:45:22,840
year as the Raptors are just so
unbelievably banged up. I mean, you're

755
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:28,079
looking at him, he's like,
yeah, I don't I don't know this

756
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,800
is But who's again, who's the
bigger surprise that I'm trying to figure this

757
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:35,440
out in real time? Pascal Siakam
twenty four point eight point seven point seven

758
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,559
assists. Yeah, okay, hitting
fifty one point nine percent of his twos.

759
00:45:38,599 --> 00:45:42,920
His three point volume is is about
the same. So is this percentage?

760
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,320
Yeah? I think I think that's
the one, unless you wanted to

761
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:50,840
go with like o Gianna Nobi a
little bit, or is it Christian Coloco

762
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,159
coming in and blocking everything known to
man? Even that's probably not a surprising

763
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:58,599
I think you can also say if
if the season ended today, would Pascal

764
00:45:58,679 --> 00:46:01,000
Siakom be one of the top ten
MVP candidates and would you have predicted that?

765
00:46:01,119 --> 00:46:07,599
That might be the even bigger surprise
here. But that's yeah, whoa

766
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,079
man, buck, I didn't see
you phrasing it like that. Love it

767
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:15,760
you touch has everything? Yeah,
looks the first in the West. They

768
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,440
have the fourth best offense in the
league, their fourth in offensive rebounding rate.

769
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,079
They turn the ball over a lot, they don't get to the line,

770
00:46:22,119 --> 00:46:23,760
ever, their defense is twenty fourth, It doesn't matter. They have

771
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:28,239
a positive point. They have the
seventh biggest net rating in the league right

772
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,440
now. Lowry market In just looks
great. Looks like an all star,

773
00:46:30,599 --> 00:46:37,320
hitting a great deal of shots,
throwing some nice passes. Colin Sexton improving

774
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,400
his shot selection to cut out on
some of those. It still has a

775
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,800
lot of junkie twos, but not
taking as many pull up jumpers, and

776
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,360
they've spaced the floor for him to
get to the rim. More. Jordan

777
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:49,400
Clarkson just deciding to turn into like
a really good passer. Now, Mike

778
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,679
Conley going from oh financial albatroz when
you look at his contract to could the

779
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:58,880
Mavericks trade for him already? Just
like Molie Beasley, just like never missing

780
00:46:59,039 --> 00:47:01,960
from three and taking them in droves. Rocker Castler coming in and just like

781
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:06,199
looking not as you know, slow
as I thought he would on defense,

782
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,960
but also grasping NBA defense, I
think better than I thought he was going

783
00:47:09,039 --> 00:47:14,440
to Kelly Olynnock sort of reinventing his
stock here. This team has been deep,

784
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,760
it's been fun there. First in
the West, eighteen games in the

785
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:22,079
season, first in the West,
how are they not the biggest surprise in

786
00:47:22,199 --> 00:47:27,440
the entire league? And then finally
we have the Washington Wizards. Jordan Goodwins

787
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:31,360
seizing his moment. Man did not
see this one coming, Like, yeah,

788
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:35,400
that's yeah. I think that's paved
the way with Corey Christopher's injuries for

789
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,440
sure. And then they don't they
apparently don't want to play. There's the

790
00:47:37,599 --> 00:47:40,280
lawn right injury and they definitely don't
want to play. Johnny Davis. If

791
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:45,159
you are looking for a spicier surprise
here, I think, look, Buck

792
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:46,519
kind of hits it. On the
head in that I don't know that they're

793
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,639
necessarily would be one. There's not
one that stand out. It's before his

794
00:47:50,639 --> 00:47:52,800
ankle injury, the Rocket, the
Rockets, the Wizards kind of sided that,

795
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,920
Hey, Ruya, Chamora is going
to be just like the vessel through

796
00:47:55,960 --> 00:48:00,840
which we funnel all of our second
unit offense. That probably surprised me a

797
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,880
little bit. The other thing,
and I think I think the numbers may

798
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,079
have normalized too much for this to
hold. But like Kris stops porzingis in,

799
00:48:07,119 --> 00:48:10,719
the post was working at one point
and it still is. Yeah,

800
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:15,199
I might go with Christops's post play
hurting fifty four point five percent on post

801
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:19,159
ups that the seventy seventh percent tile
efficiency never been his strong suits. That

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would be my actual surprise. If
you want to go with Jordan Goodwin,

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that's fine. That's gonna do it
for this one. Like I said,

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we're going to have our one question
for every Eastern Conference team coming out this

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week, and there will probably be
another episode or two faked in as well.

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podcast on YouTube description. Until next time,

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and as always I leave the shout
out third one, the only,

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the legendary Frank Nila Keena