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Hey, Gravy's thanks so much for
joining us this week for another episode of

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Great Girls Podcast. As always,
it's mere host Hawthorne and it's me and

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Morellas We're back. Guys are alive, I promise, yeah, we're back.

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We have been spending a good amount
of our quarantine eating well. For

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me, I'm a mom, so
you know, I've been at home taking

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care of my kid and doing homeschooling, which has not been fun. But

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we all decided to take a break
and we do have some announcements and some

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changes. Hazel has relocated across the
country and it's like basically kind of impossible

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for us to make a schedule work
out. We've tried a few times,

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but she is out of the podcast. It's just me and emrellis, the

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creators of the podcast. She might
come back to make some guest episodes,

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so she might, we'll see.
She also moved to focus on her health.

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Do you guys know that was a
big issue with why we couldn't record

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as much last year as well.
But we really hope everyone is safe during

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quarantine. We know we haven't been
on any social media at all, just

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trying to like unplug enjoy time.
With our families, and we hope all

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of you are doing well too.
I've been doing nothing but eating food,

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and I've gained fifteen pounds in two
months and I want to cry. But

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it's okay, guys, that's what
quarantine's about. So if you've also gained

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weight during quarantine, okay, it
is okay. No one's gonna be able

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to tell. Everyone's gonna be fifteen
pounds heavy. Yer, It's fine,

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literally, okay. So we have
chosen to do do you want to announce

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that because that's your favorite movie for
your birthday? So it was my birthday

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on the seventh, and I got
to choose the movie for once. I'm

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kidding, I always choose, so
you choose the movie like eighty percent of

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the time. But so we did
one of my favorite new horror movies and

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it is The Baba Dude. And
if you're not cool and haven't seen this

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movie, that's The Baba Duke.
The exact sound from Yeah. So this

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is exactly why we could never live
together again, because I know, damn

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well you'd be doing that fucking noise
if I was like in the middle of

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the night, or if I was
home by myself. You would do some

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shit and make me pee my pants. I would hide in the closet and

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like bang on the door from the
inside, making the sound three times,

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and shit, I would yeah,
and then you would probably hear me scream

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so loud that I would die good. I'm so easy to scare dude,

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you know it. My kid scares
me all the freaking time. I was

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gonna check behind me and make sure
no one's trying to scare me. But

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this is such a good movie.
I used to be on Netflix, but

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they hate everyone paying for it,
so they took everything good off. We

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both had to pay for it on
Voodoo. I think so sorry, guys.

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I think it's on Amazon Pride for
four dollars. I paid the dollar

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cheaper for the less good quality one, and it looked the exact same.

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Sorry, coronavirus. You know,
it's really funny having to like go in

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public and your coughing and you're like, sorry, it's a weed, coffin.

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Yeah, I'm not deadly, I
just have a weed. Anyway,

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What do you think about the movie
without giving anything away? Blah blah blah

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blah blah, you know, not
the gist. I personally love the movie

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It's one of my favorites. I
used to have a cat named Bob a

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Duke. She was real cute.
Now I have this little mushroom over here

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was a little black kittie. No, she was Calico. Oh my gosh,

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that's like the last time we watched
the movie, because she responded to

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it right when you got her.
Yeah, I love Calico cats. She

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was so cute. Anyway, so
I obviously love the movie. It still

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scares me when I watch it.
I love it so much. I actually

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bought the Baba Duke book. It
was really freaking horror to find and tell

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them what else you're gonna do?
During this podcast, I will actually read

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it. It does not take a
long there's a lot of money for very

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short, actual children's book. But
my child will be sufficiently terrified by it.

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And when my husband is reading it
to our kid, I can be

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hiding under the bed, the wardrobe
or something. Oh I met Wow,

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that's why I don't have kids.
You're great, Gray, anyway, what

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do you think of the movie.
I really love this movie. I actually

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let my kid watch the last few
minutes of it. That part is okay

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for kids to watch the end of
it. Maybe not the whole middle and

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beginning to scary. But yeah,
definitely watch it. Please watch it before

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you listen to this, or you're
gonna be like, what what what is

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happening at John and be surprised and
then watch it and be like, oh,

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a really spot on Babba Duke impression
and realist should be the Babba Duke

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for Christmas Halloween, For Christmas Halloween. I'm gonna dress up as a Babba

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Duke for Christmas for the Christmas party. There you go. Instead of Santa

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Claus sitting on the lap, You're
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I'm down, dude, I'll do
it. Don't think I won't. So

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here we go with the Babba Duke. The Babba Duke is a supernatural horror

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movie in which a mom named Amelia
and her son Sam find an unsettling children's

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book on their bookshelf. As they
begin to read it, they discovered that

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the Boogeyman in the story is real
and that their lives are in danger.

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We kept the synopsis short because we're
gonna go like really in depth in this

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movie. The movie starts out with
the mom named Amelia, but we're just

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gonna call her mom because she's the
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we even start. Actually, I
just want to let you guys know how

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good the acting is in this movie. The acting is so good. I

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honestly believed for a moment I was
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Dude. The mom acts literally like
a mom who hasn't slept, is

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so exhausted mourning her husband's death.
The loneliness she feels, the stress,

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Like, wow, it's it's really
done. Well, you know what's really

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gross? What when she's like all
vibrator being on herself and she's like and

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then the kids liked and she gets
so mad. That's so real. That's

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so real. I mean, I
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I have cats fucking me. I
at, okay, this has actually never

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happened to me, thank god.
But yeah, I've heard friends of mine

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where this is happened, and it's
we've been on the other side, dude,

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walking it on. Yesn't say it's
happened to us as kids. Fucking

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gross. But one time my husband
and I were being intimate and I was

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on top and he heard our kid
turning the doorknob. So when I went

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up, my husband rolled out from
under me, off the bed, off

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the side of the bed, onto
the floor. When my kid walked in,

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he just saw me on the bed
and he was like mom, And

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I was like, sometimes mommies just
sit naked in their room. Next time

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knock. So literally, to this
day he'll knock and be like, are

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you dressed? And he thinks I'm
the weirdo. Husband was totally clean in

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this situation. Dad's not a weirdo, just me. Sometimes you're just naked

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in your room. Man, how
often do you call me? And I'm

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like, Hey, I've been naked
in my room every time I call you,

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which is a lot. We could
talk a lot. Okay, So

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the movie starts out with the mom
Amelia. She is super exhausted, super

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sad her husband died on the way
to the hospital to have their son,

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Like how tragic is that? And
that's why she hates her son that day

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and it manifested it a lot.
Yes, so not only is her son's

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birthday ruined, but now her relationship
with him is kind of already ruined.

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When you're planning or having a kid
with someone, especially like her situation,

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she was married, they wanted the
kid, they were in love, and

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then all of a sudden they were
taken away from you. You for sure

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feel resentment. There's no way to
not. And Sam her son, he

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is like a typical little kid.
He's high energy, he doesn't sleep,

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he wants to be played with all
the time. And it's hard, especially

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because at school he's not really getting
any of those outlets met because everyone thinks

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he's weird. He still believes in
monsters. He's not like these other kids

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on their phones and shit, like, He's just a regular her kid.

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So he gets picked on, and
then now he has to go home and

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tell his mom about of a day
he had, and then she works at

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Old Folks Home, so she's having
a shitty day. And it was just

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so funny how they kept saying,
like how bad it was to work at

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all Folks on because I've been applying
and now I'm like, JK, no

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more for me, YEA. So
one amazing thing about Sam is that he

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starts seeing a monster in his room. And what would most kids do?

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Hide under their bed, ask their
mom for help, call for their mom,

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go sleep in their mom's room.
Sam does a step ahead he makes

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weapons. He starts crafting homemade weapons
that are so much it it. I

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want to know who made these.
And they all work when you watch the

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movies, you see them later he
uses all of the weapons. We'll get

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there. Okay. I love this
kid because he's going to school and he's

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being like a fucking crossbow to school
and he keeps a handmade crossbow and he

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keeps poppers in his pockets. That's
like a surprise, dam like a little

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ninja. Yes, he's so cute. He's such a cool kid. I

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love him. Annoying is all hell. But Amelia's at work. She was

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like already late this morning. I
think she even had like some shit on

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her shirt. She just didn't look
that well kempt. And all of a

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sudden she gets to cough from the
school. It's sure enough. Sam brought

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his crossbow, which is not allowed. Everyone knows that. That's plain common

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knowledge and I can't bring weapons to
school. But it was like show and

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tell, and he really wanted to
roll the class what he made. Yeah,

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so he gets in trouble. They
literally talk about expelling him, and

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she's like, you know what,
you guys just don't care enough about my

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kid, and I totally did feel
that when they were talking about him,

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you know, they were like,
well, we've had problems, okay,

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then give him a little more time. Their solution was either to expel him

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or to put him in a class
all by himself. Yeah, what is

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that going to do? So stupid? Yeah, I can't even get into

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that right now. So you know
what, she's like, fuck that,

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I want to take him home and
we're gonna find a better school. And

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I didn't really want to do with
you guys right now. So basically that

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night, she already have a bad
day, as we said, and he's

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like, can I pick a book
that we read tonight? And she's like,

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you can pick whatever book you want. Let's just get the story time

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over with. And I feel like
this sometimes my kid, I read him

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a book every night, or if
he reads us and I've been there where

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he wants to choose like the longest
book we have, so he knows that

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I'm trying to not be in there. I want to go to sleep,

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So he chooses a book off the
shelf, a big, beautiful red one.

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Never seen this book on the shelf
before. Even she was like,

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we're look at this. He just
shrugs, and I'm gonna let Himilla's take

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it away. So they opened the
book and it's really like sketchy art style.

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What was the book called mister Bob
adook right? And the cover is

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just red has a little black silhouettis
and guy in a hat. What starts

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off like this? If it's in
a word or it's in a book,

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you can't get rid of the bab
a duck, Bob a duke. But

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if you're really a clever one and
you know what it is to see,

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then you can make friends with a
special one, a friend of you and

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me. A rumbling sound, then
three sharp knocks Bob duke, duke duke.

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Then you'll know that he's around.
You'll see him if you look.

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And they open up the little dresser
and it says Bob a duke duke duck

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in it. The best part of
the movie is for sure, there's a

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picture of like the scary ass guy
and a hat and a long strenchcoat and

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he has like a scary smile and
says this is what he wears on top.

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He's funny, don't you think.
Now see him in your room at

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night and you won't sleep a wink. I'll soon take off my funny disguise.

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Eyes take heat of what you've read. And once you see what's underneath,

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you're going to wish that you were
dead. That's what I stopped for

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then. And then he starts crying
yes, and she starts flipping through it

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a little bit and she's like,
whoa, this is gone. So she

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tries to make him feel better all
night. And this is where Sam.

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He cannot stop thinking about the Babba
Duke, and he knows it's what's making

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him stay up all night. Like
he knows that's what he's been seeing.

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He knows that's what he's been hearing. And he starts obsessing over the Baba

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Duke and protecting his mom. He's
really careful to not let him in.

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The whole thing is you have to
let the baba duke in. You let

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him in, You let him in? Yes, And so he'll like be

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screaming at school, don't let him
in. Don't let the baba duke in.

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And he's like making his cousins and
his friends. I'll be like,

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what the fuck is a baba duke? Your crazy kid? So after a

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few sleepless nights for both Sam and
Amelia. They start noticing strange things happening,

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like the doors are opening and closing
by themselves. They both hear weird

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sounds and Amelia finds glass in her
fucking food. Yeah, not in the

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kid's food, And at first she's
convinced that it's Sam pranking her. She's

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like, why would my kid put
glass in my food? She's so mad

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about everything with the Baba Duke book
because Sam won't stop talking about it,

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that she takes it and she rips
it to shreds as much as she can.

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You know you're ripping it up with
anger. You throw it in the

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trash and she thinks, I'm done
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this. We should be fine,
and she yells at him. Never talked

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about it again. Well. In
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day, she usually has Sam share
birthday with his cousin Ruby. I think

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yes, Ruby, And in light
of Sam's recent behavior, Ruby doesn't even

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want to be associated with Sam,
let alone have him out her birthday,

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so they still go to the party
that's family and Ruby is so mean when

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they like showed the two kids having
like the alone time in the tree house.

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I want to hit her mouth.
She's really Snoopy, snooty O the

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donk. Snoopy's nice. Yeah,
not me my eighteen year old job.

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Fun fact, guys, I used
to be a Snoopy impersonator or whatever in

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the Snoopy costume. Yeah. I
did that for like a whole summer rode

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right before I was pregnant. I
was the Snoopy impersonator for MetLife conventions.

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Yeah. I did three conventions.
I'll show you the video. I was

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known as the dancing Snoopy. Yes
what? And I literally only got the

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job because I could fit in the
suit. I had no skills, and

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I guess Snoopy doesn't talk, so
I didn't really have to do anything.

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I don't even know how you don't
know that about me. That's like,

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really, I apologize for all the
interruptions. Guys. My sister just found

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out a very crazy fact about me
from ten years ago. She really didn't

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know that I used to be Snoopy
at my Life conventions for a summer before

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I was pregnant, and she just
watched a video of me dancing at Snoopy.

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I'll have to figure out how to
post this video so you guys can

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see it, and yes, that
is really me. Someone offers you thirty

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bucks an hour to be a dancing
dog. I mean, do you believe

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in your resume? They were like, what does this even mean? Oh?

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And the suit was so hot that
when I would dance like this,

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I would let air in and I
would be like, oh yeah, That's

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how I started dancing, was to
be able to breathe. Okay, you're

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talking about snow tea little girl.
Yes. At the birthday party, Ruby

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is snoot Tea, not snoopy,
and she starts bullying Sam about how no

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one likes you, not even your
own mom. Your dad didn't like you

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so much that he died instead of
being with you, and he can't handle

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it anymore. And he's like,
you know what you're gonna eat? By

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the fuck bob a duke And I
can't wait. Dude, this whole girl

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is so mean. You don't even
have a dad. You don't deserve a

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dad. She deserved being pushed.
So in response to that, he yep,

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he pushes her out of the treehouse. She spins in the air and

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lands right on her face. She
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they fucking kick them out. They're
like, get out of here. Leave.

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So while they're in the car,
Sam starts screaming, don't let him

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in, don't let him in,
don't let him in, and she's like,

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what are you talking about. She
like slams on the brakes and she's

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like, why can't you just be
normal? I was gonna say, have

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y'all seen the memes? That's the
meme right there. When she goes,

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why can't you just be normal?
And the kid just goes He screams at

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her and then he starts having a
seizar and she's like, oh shit.

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I like when she starts singing with
Baba Duke and she runs into that guy,

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he's like coming out of his driveway
or some shit, and like he

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hits it and they get out and
he's like screaming at her and yelling at

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her, and she just goes back
in the car and drives off. I'm

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not dealing with this shit. Yeah, I'm haunted by a ghost man.

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I don't know. I'm not doing
this or son as a seesar. She

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takes to the doctor and you can
see how tired this girl is and she

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tells the doctor She's like, can
I please just have sleeping bills for this

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kid? He won't asleep. I'm
a't sleep. I was eating glass last

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night for dinner, So just fucking
help us out. And then you can

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even tell the doctor didn't want to. He was like, h fine,

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I'll do it. He gives up
sleeping pills, and that night she goes

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home and she's like, take the
spell. He didn't want to say.

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Good. He's like, mom,
if I go to sleep, you're gonna

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die. She's like, guess I'll
die. Then she's like, good,

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yeah, I want to cool.
All it means I sleep cool length.

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But she finally gets to sleep and
she wakes up, and you know,

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she thinks she's looking up. You
ever have that feeling where you just you

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wake up after finally sleeping and you
feel so good. That just happened to

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me today. I went to bed
at like eleven last night instead of like

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four am because I've been playing Animals
two. And then I woke up a

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six day. I don't sleep.
So she wakes up and she hears a

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knock on the door. She opens
the door, no one's there. She

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closes the door, knocks again.
She's like what the fuck And on the

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doorstep, Lo and behold, she
finds old mister bob a duke reassembled,

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not a new one, the same
one that she ripped to shreds, is

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taped back together on her doorstep,
and this time it looks bigger. It's

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like a thicker book. Well,
all of the book is the same,

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but there's more. Yeah, so
she decides to read that part. Yeah,

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so it starts after what we just
read, and she opens it to

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a page and it goes for those
who think that's just for kids, this

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thing is not for me. I
urge you not to say those words.

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Please take this seriously, because like
she's definitely not taking this seriously. She

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still thinks her kids just being crazy. There's just no way you're off the

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hook. If you're all grown up. When you read this book and you

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snub your nose with a civilized look, you'll appeal even more to the big

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Bubba Duck. And this is what
he'll say. I'll wait here with you.

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I'll make you a bet. The
more you deny me, the stronger

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I get. You'll then be my
puppet, my plaything, my pet.

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I'll make you do things you'll be
sure to regret, and then it shows

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her like choking a dog bugsy,
It shows her choke and her own kid.

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It shows her with this really cool
little animation of her like splitting out.

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It's really well done. It's so
good and it's so creepy, so

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scary. I totally see why he's
about one hundred dollars on this fucking book.

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And then it comes out it's like
a big scary picture of his face,

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and she fucking closes it again and
she's like, I'm done. Nope,

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this thing is scurry. So what
does she do with it? She

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burned it, and she decides,
obviously, whoever is leaving me this book

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knows where I live. So she
does what anyone normal would do. She

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goes to the police station. And
at the police station, as she's telling

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them I'm being stalked, he left
this book with images. It was disturbing,

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and they're like, can we see
the book? And she's like,

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well, I don't have it.
I burned it. As the cop is

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replying to her, there's a coat
rack in the back and she kind of

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has a double take at it,
and she sees the Baba Duke does like

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this like hand flare with his like
sharp claws, and she gets out of

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there because she realizes that the Baba
Duke is saying, the cops can't help

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you. Girl. After this incident
with the cops, she realizes no one

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can help her, and she ends
up doing what most of us would do.

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She wants to lock herself in her
house. She locks all the windows.

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She does all this stuff, and
Salmon's being even worse but actually better,

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like he knows it's getting worse,
so he's preparing even more. She

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catches him with his weapons. She
gets so pissed, and she's turning so

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scary that even the dog won't go
to her. And you know how that

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feels when your pet won't come to
you. It breaks your heart. So

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she was already mad, and now
her dog like growled at her a little

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bugsy. She was like, oh
okay. So Sam is afraid of his

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mom because she's been fucking crazy.
Man, I'm afraid of his mom.

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He's like, I need to call
the nice old lady down the street.

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And when he calls the nice old
lady down the street, she catches Sam

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on the phone and she grabs a
knife. And I didn't know she was

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gonna do with this knife. Dude, I just saw the book. I

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knew what she was. So she
looks at Sam and she's like, what

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a wack dude to make you listen
to me this? And she gets the

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knife and she cuts the phone line. She ends up having hallucinations where she

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violently murders her own kid. Dude. It's scary and at first second,

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you know, you think it's real
and you're like, what, that's how

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they have this movie? But no, At the same time, she actually

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has a vision of her husband,
like the Baba Duke turns into her husband

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and like caresses her and not her
husband. But she's so desperate for like

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his touch and being with him again
that she lets the Babba Duke embrace her,

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and when they make eye contact,
it says, bringing me the boy.

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Well, also, the only thing
her like a husband illusion thing will

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say to her at first is it
looks like rain, which is probably the

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last thing he ever actually said to
her, you know, yeah, and

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that phrase haunts her, so she's
like, I'm not going to bring you

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the kid. At this point,
she realizes that it's real and it is

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like over her in the room,
and she actually lets it possess her,

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she let it in. She gets
possessed by the Babba duke. The one

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thing Sam always screams, don't let
it in, while she did. And

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this goes on for a few days. You see a good about it these

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people's lives. When she calls Bugsy
over to her this time and he growls

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at her and runs away, she
chases it down and she kills him.

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She breaks his little neck. I
cried. I couldn't believe that. Why

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did they keep killing dogs in movies? It was such a little fuzzy baby.

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The cps come before or after she
kills a dog, and before we

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missed it. It's fine. That
was my favorite part with the cockroaches.

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Oh shit, it's fine. We'll
say that now. We kind of skipped

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over it. But it's whatever.
But my favorite part of the movie is

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when she starts cleaning. She just
wants to like clean, and she sees

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like this little hole behind her fridge, and she liked, what the fuck

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is this? I've never seen this
before. She goes on, she like

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rips the wallpaper and there's like a
hole and she like touches the hole and

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cockroach just go out. Oh my
god. I don't know if they made

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this movie scene specifically for us as
kids. But bugs are scarier to me.

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I was gonna say, it reminded
me of how we grew up.

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Dude. Yes, bugs are scarier
to me than any kind of monster villain

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thing you could possibly show me.
And that was just this is the trifect

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of scary stuff. Oh God,
the whole movie has been boiling down to

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Sam fighting the bob a duke And
where is the Boba duke? You might

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ask, It's in his mom,
it's possessed her. I was gonna say,

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it's in his mom. Now,
I'm like, he can tell his

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mom is not acting the same,
actually has like dead looking her eyes.

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And he's like, you let it
in. Bugsy is no longer there to

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help protect him too, And he's
like, mom wears Bugsy and she's like,

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oh, he's hurt, Sam,
you gotta let me in. We

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gotta take him to the hospital.
We gotta help him. And she's like

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trying to get in his room.
Is this when she jumps on and she's

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like fucking monkey kicking that chip.
Yes, doesn't that kind of remind you

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of Hereditary When she's doing that on
the ceiling, Remember, you know what.

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It really reminds me of the game
Rampage. When you climb up the

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building you kick Yes so good.
So she tries to get in her kid's

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room and ask she's speaking to Sam. You can see how little patience that

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Baba Duka even has with him,
and his voice starts coming through the mom's

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voice. So she jumps on the
door frame and she starts kicking it and

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when she opens that door, I
don't think she was prepared for the fight

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this little boy. First, he
has a catapult that launches like a poolball

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right at her head. That makes
a clunk and that hurts. And then

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he shoots her with his homemade dart
gun and she's like, oh my arm.

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And then he's like flashbag wow,
disappears with a little fucking poppers.

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He's so cute. He's like,
I won't get him take you, mom,

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I won't let him hurt you.
He fucking lures her down to the

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basement where he had ropes to trip
her, so she fell into the middle

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of the basement. She got knocked
out, and then she woke up tied

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to the entire floor of the basement
by her like six year old kid.

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And it's like the cutest way a
kid would tie up an adult like her

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head, her like like her fingers. Like the weirdest tying up of someone

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you've ever seen is how Sam ties
up his mom. That's why it was

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realistic, though, because that's like
a kid being like, I don't know

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what to do, but like I'm
here. He's so sweet. He's like,

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I won't leave you, mom.
I love you mom. And she's

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like and he's like squeeting trying to
eat. He's like, I love you

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so much, and then he goes, it's okay, I know that you

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don't love me, and I'm like, oh. After this part, he

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tells his mom like you have to
let it out, like you can't keep

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it in you and then she throws
up black licorice. Well, first she

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tries to strangle him for real.
She hats her arm free from the ties.

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She starts choking him out, and
he does this thing to her when

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she's really upset, where he like
pets her face, like right on her

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cheek. He starts petting her face
as she's strangling him, and that actually

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makes her snap out of it.
She like gets up and she looks like

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she's gonna throw up and all this
black shit comes out of her mouth,

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black liquers, all this which happens
to me when I eat black lickers too,

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because it tastes like shit. I
was gonna say, that's how I

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look when I brush my teeth with
the charcoal toothpaste and he spit. It's

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all black, dude, that's her
taste. Gross, so gross. So

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it's as like it's gonna make everything
clean. It's fun. I tried him.

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Like, So, now that the
Babba Duke expelled from her body,

404
00:29:34.079 --> 00:29:37.640
her and Sam were prepared to fight. She's not gonna let this thing take

405
00:29:37.640 --> 00:29:41.880
her kid. Yeah, it's been
a hard for six years, but she's

406
00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:45.559
not gonna let this shit happen in
her house. So her and Sam hide

407
00:29:45.599 --> 00:29:49.519
upstairs and she yells at him.
Now the little boy looks at the mom

408
00:29:49.559 --> 00:29:52.440
and she goes, Mom, you
can't get rid of the Bobba Duck.

409
00:29:52.519 --> 00:29:57.119
And remember it takes Sam. It
drags him all the way, and she

410
00:29:57.119 --> 00:30:03.880
starts screaming, you're trespass in my
house. Getto like, she really fights

411
00:30:03.880 --> 00:30:07.799
this thing, Like he comes in
her room. It's like a whole thing.

412
00:30:08.400 --> 00:30:11.799
And she stands up to this monster
in her house and it tries its

413
00:30:11.799 --> 00:30:15.319
best to scare her, but she's
not afraid of it anymore. She scares

414
00:30:15.359 --> 00:30:19.079
it. It screams, and it
flies all the way into the basement door

415
00:30:19.480 --> 00:30:23.240
and locks it. And that's where
you think it ends. Classic ending,

416
00:30:23.279 --> 00:30:26.160
no movie, the mom stands up
for it, not possessed anymore. Cool.

417
00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:29.359
That would have been a good way
to end it. Just kidding,

418
00:30:29.519 --> 00:30:33.000
but I think they actually ended it
better. CPS comes over and they're like,

419
00:30:33.039 --> 00:30:36.480
Sam hasn't been in school in two
weeks. We're a little worried,

420
00:30:36.480 --> 00:30:38.559
and she's like, you know what, it's okay. He needed some time.

421
00:30:38.920 --> 00:30:41.960
We had to take care of some
things, and we took care of

422
00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:45.400
it. I like that she looks
at them and she admits, like,

423
00:30:45.960 --> 00:30:49.000
my husband died on the day I
gave birth to Sam. It's always a

424
00:30:49.000 --> 00:30:53.599
really hard week for us. But
he's getting his first ever birthday party on

425
00:30:53.720 --> 00:30:57.880
his birthday, Like we're trying.
Yah SAMs like, it's actually my birthday

426
00:30:57.920 --> 00:31:00.880
today, And you can see how
happy the little kid is. He just

427
00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:04.440
loves his mom. He literally just
wanted to protect her the whole time,

428
00:31:06.200 --> 00:31:10.119
that's all. And she just hates
him because she's like, I lost my

429
00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:14.079
husband for you, sad as hell
man. Yeah, and he's in the

430
00:31:14.200 --> 00:31:18.480
Magic He watches a super Scary Magic
DVD and he shows his mom a trick

431
00:31:19.400 --> 00:31:25.640
and after the trick, he gets
a bunch of bugs and a bowl and

432
00:31:25.680 --> 00:31:27.799
he gives it to his mom.
Well, they're bearing the puppy in the

433
00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:34.119
backyard. Yeah, Bugsy rip And
she takes it the bugs inside, and

434
00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:40.279
she goes up to the little basement
door and she unlocks it and Sam's like,

435
00:31:40.319 --> 00:31:41.279
can I come? And she's like, no, no, no,

436
00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:45.200
not yet. We were still working
on some stuff down here. No,

437
00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:48.400
he knows he's down there, She's
not ready to let him in there yet.

438
00:31:48.519 --> 00:31:52.559
This part's so weird. So when
she goes in there, she puts

439
00:31:52.599 --> 00:31:57.160
the worms down, and the Baba
Duke is there. It tries to eat

440
00:31:57.200 --> 00:32:01.440
her again, but she's able to
calm it down. She stands up to

441
00:32:01.480 --> 00:32:06.319
it. She has to like live
with it now. Yeah. So they

442
00:32:06.400 --> 00:32:09.000
kind of like make it their pet
in a way. And if you remember

443
00:32:09.559 --> 00:32:14.799
what Amarilla's just read, it says
you can make a special friend with it

444
00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:19.200
if you really like tried. So
that's what they do, and that's how

445
00:32:19.240 --> 00:32:22.839
the movie The Babba Duke ends.
I know it didn't sound very scary from

446
00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:25.400
how we were describing it. It's
just really worth the watch. I'm read

447
00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:29.759
the last half of the book,
which is going to describe basically exactly what

448
00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:34.839
we just tried to describe. Right
now, Bo goes dare to look me

449
00:32:34.920 --> 00:32:37.960
in the face, try to put
me in my place. I will cause

450
00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:44.119
you so much strife, but you
might. You just might get out with

451
00:32:44.240 --> 00:32:50.200
your life. And it shows her
screaming at the Baba duke, you're trespassing

452
00:32:50.319 --> 00:32:55.680
in my house. So he's telling
them, you know you denying me makes

453
00:32:55.880 --> 00:33:00.599
me stronger. If you stand up
to me. That's the only way that

454
00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:02.279
you might survive. Yeah, because
like you can't get rid of it,

455
00:33:02.440 --> 00:33:07.440
you can live with it. It's
a really good like allegory for life,

456
00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:10.519
being like you gotta stand up,
might dive. You gotta stand up for

457
00:33:10.559 --> 00:33:16.000
yourself, whether adult or child.
Best to give me a home, put

458
00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:21.119
the welcome that out with a room
of my own, except that I'm here

459
00:33:21.400 --> 00:33:25.240
and from you I have grown,
keep me smaller in size. I might

460
00:33:25.319 --> 00:33:30.000
leave you alone. And then like
all the little things open, it looks

461
00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:34.839
really cool, this looks really cool, And then it says I only said

462
00:33:35.079 --> 00:33:38.519
might dot dot dot if it's in
a word or it's in a look.

463
00:33:38.839 --> 00:33:44.680
You can't get rid of the Babba
duck. I please don't be tempted to

464
00:33:44.880 --> 00:33:50.039
rip up this book and then it's
another scary ass fucking picture of a scary

465
00:33:50.119 --> 00:33:53.640
ass face. I'm not the story. It's basically saying, yeah, the

466
00:33:53.680 --> 00:33:57.319
Baba Duke's weak now, but you
can never get rid of it. It's

467
00:33:57.359 --> 00:34:00.279
stuck with you now until you pawn
it off on someone else. Yeah,

468
00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:02.200
I saw your house or whatever,
maybe because it did look like it was

469
00:34:02.240 --> 00:34:06.240
just stuck to the house. No, I think it's stuck on them.

470
00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:07.960
You're right, I forgot the car
scene. All right. What do you

471
00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:12.000
rate the movie out of five?
Four point five? I very rarely get

472
00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:15.679
fives. I don't know. The
kid was annoying. I want to know

473
00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:17.639
why they keep it as a pet. Even the pop up book doesn't like

474
00:34:19.760 --> 00:34:22.119
blame that much. You kind of
have to infer. I don't know.

475
00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:25.440
I like deep explanations of ship because
I'm a piece of shit, but four

476
00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:30.760
point five for sure definitely like a
Please watch it at least once. One

477
00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:32.440
of the best horror movies I've seen
in a long time, and it's still

478
00:34:32.480 --> 00:34:37.599
fairly new ish, so I really
like it. Would you rate it out

479
00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:42.960
of five, I'd probably say five. I watched it over again, and

480
00:34:43.039 --> 00:34:45.159
that shit hella scared me. I
have a kid around that kid's age,

481
00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:50.639
and if he was doing half of
the ship that Sam was doing that,

482
00:34:50.760 --> 00:34:52.880
it's scared me more. When I
watched a movie to get really into it,

483
00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:57.639
I really put myself in the headspace. I have for sure felt that

484
00:34:57.760 --> 00:35:01.599
exhausted. Yeah, you're a mom, so it makes sense. Yeah.

485
00:35:01.639 --> 00:35:07.280
So it just really I don't know, it just really like appealed to me

486
00:35:07.320 --> 00:35:09.599
and I was like, oh my
god, I really like how it ends

487
00:35:09.599 --> 00:35:13.400
different. It does say in the
book to give me a room, and

488
00:35:13.440 --> 00:35:15.159
you kind of like be my friend. I'll leave you alone, let you

489
00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:19.280
be alive. And what else are
they going to do in the basement Just

490
00:35:19.360 --> 00:35:22.599
keep all her dead husband's stuffed down
there forever. Yeah, and feed the

491
00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:24.400
baba duke bugs. Yeah. Now
the kid can like have a friend or

492
00:35:24.400 --> 00:35:28.960
whatever to have it, and they
can turn into her husband and maybe she

493
00:35:29.000 --> 00:35:30.440
can like date it or something.
I don't know. I'm just kidding.

494
00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:34.280
She's gonna fu the baba duke.
Yeah, that's gonna be the porn.

495
00:35:34.360 --> 00:35:52.360
I make whoa Baba duke more like
Baba cock baba dick bab. I'm doing

496
00:35:52.400 --> 00:35:57.840
it. Just a little announcement.
We're actually out of podcast promos, so

497
00:35:57.960 --> 00:36:04.119
please send us your promos our email
as Great World Podcast at gmail dot com

498
00:36:04.280 --> 00:36:07.920
has to be about a minute an
MP three format only, please, I

499
00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:15.320
don't know how to do anything else. Only I'll make you convert it and

500
00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:17.119
then you can send it right back. We've had the message a few people

501
00:36:17.159 --> 00:36:22.159
to do that, because poor Hawthorne
sat there for like a week trying to

502
00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:24.679
figure out how to convert a WAB
to an MP three and she just fucked

503
00:36:24.719 --> 00:36:30.159
it up. So I tried.
I don't know what happens when I get

504
00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:34.599
on my computers. Weird ship just
instantly happens. Okay, make it easy.

505
00:36:36.599 --> 00:36:37.239
Do you want to go first?
You do want men to go first?

506
00:36:38.840 --> 00:36:45.400
The first? All right, Am
Marilla's what do you have for us

507
00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:50.760
today? I'll tell you once I
might be girth. So this story I

508
00:36:50.960 --> 00:36:53.480
found like a year ago, but
it has to have been longer than that,

509
00:36:53.559 --> 00:36:57.039
because I said it was only posted
a year ago. But I've had

510
00:36:57.159 --> 00:37:00.320
this. This was posted a year
ago on read it no Sleep and by

511
00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:06.920
someone named caw Door twenty three and
it is titled Don't Go Looking for your

512
00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:10.440
Childhood Picture Book. When I was
a child, I couldn't fall asleep without

513
00:37:10.440 --> 00:37:15.639
my mother reading me this book called
The Sheep Ran Over the Dog. It

514
00:37:15.719 --> 00:37:19.960
was about the sheep that was tired
of being led around by the sheep dog

515
00:37:20.000 --> 00:37:22.840
that herded them, so he got
inside the farmer's truck and he ran over

516
00:37:22.880 --> 00:37:27.280
the dog. When the dog was
in the hospital with a broken leg,

517
00:37:27.639 --> 00:37:30.800
a wolf came and took the sheep's
mom. Sounds kind of intense for a

518
00:37:30.920 --> 00:37:35.320
children's book now that I write it
down, but I have many fond memories

519
00:37:35.320 --> 00:37:38.119
of my mom reading it as I
fell asleep every night before the accident.

520
00:37:38.199 --> 00:37:42.559
That is, I keep getting ahead
of myself, though, so I'll backtrack

521
00:37:42.599 --> 00:37:45.280
a bit. My mother died when
I was eight in a car accident,

522
00:37:45.360 --> 00:37:47.840
and I had to go live with
my aunt. It was okay, I

523
00:37:47.880 --> 00:37:52.000
guess, but in the move The
Sheep Ran Over the Dog got lost and

524
00:37:52.119 --> 00:37:55.880
no one could find it. Combine
that with a lack of interest in finding

525
00:37:55.880 --> 00:38:00.880
it for my aunt's For well obvious
reasons, I never saw the book again.

526
00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:06.239
By the time I was a teenager, I had forgotten almost everything about

527
00:38:06.280 --> 00:38:08.800
my mother. There were pictures,
of course, but I didn't remember anything

528
00:38:08.800 --> 00:38:13.320
else. I don't remember anything she
ever made me for dinner. I don't

529
00:38:13.360 --> 00:38:16.880
remember any stuffed toys she gave me. I can't remember any clothes she had

530
00:38:16.880 --> 00:38:21.159
besides the ones and the few pictures
that my aunt had. But what I

531
00:38:21.239 --> 00:38:24.679
do remember is her reading that book
every night to me. I remember the

532
00:38:24.719 --> 00:38:29.320
way the sheep got the keys out
of the farmer's house and running over the

533
00:38:29.400 --> 00:38:32.280
dog. I remember the dog laid
up in the hospital with a broken leg,

534
00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:36.760
and the wolf taking the sheep's mom
when the dog couldn't guard them anymore.

535
00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:42.239
I remember the sheep crying after that. Nothing. I majored in English

536
00:38:42.239 --> 00:38:44.760
when I first went to college because
I thought I could be a writer.

537
00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:47.480
I didn't end up writing the Great
American Novel, of course, but I

538
00:38:47.519 --> 00:38:52.119
did get a job teaching English at
the local high school. I was happy

539
00:38:52.159 --> 00:38:54.360
for a while until two months ago. That was when I went to go

540
00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:59.480
visit my aunt. We got to
talking about my mom like we usually do.

541
00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:02.000
I asked about the book. You
mean, that terrible book with the

542
00:39:02.079 --> 00:39:07.760
sheep. She asked it wasn't a
terrible book, I balked at her.

543
00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:12.400
From what you told me, it
was absolutely horrible, that poor dog being

544
00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:15.639
run over and that little sheep's mom
dying at the end. I don't remember

545
00:39:15.639 --> 00:39:21.119
her dying. Maybe I'm remembering wrong. Yes, for that book every day

546
00:39:21.159 --> 00:39:23.679
for almost a year after you moved
here. She laughed at the memory.

547
00:39:24.199 --> 00:39:28.239
Anyway, why do you want to
know about the book? I explained that

548
00:39:28.280 --> 00:39:30.960
it was one of the few memories
I had of my mom growing up.

549
00:39:30.480 --> 00:39:35.599
She didn't seem enthusiastic, but she
said she would go look for it.

550
00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:37.960
In the meantime, I tried to
look for the book online, just in

551
00:39:37.960 --> 00:39:43.519
case I couldn't find the copy.
That's when things out really weird. I

552
00:39:43.639 --> 00:39:46.920
say weird, because there was no
presence online. Nothing even close to what

553
00:39:47.000 --> 00:39:52.239
I described existed. And went on
rare book forums and asked about it,

554
00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:55.360
but never got any responses. In
the age of the internet and how obsessed

555
00:39:55.400 --> 00:40:00.760
everyone is with nostalgia, I found
this very surprising. In the days where

556
00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:05.840
you can find fifty thousand treatises on
a children's show from the eighties that only

557
00:40:05.840 --> 00:40:08.679
had ten episodes, how come no
one's ever heard of this book? I

558
00:40:08.760 --> 00:40:14.599
broke down eventually and hired a book
detective my future job. Damn woman cost

559
00:40:14.639 --> 00:40:17.400
me a thousand dollars, but she
did her job well. She didn't find

560
00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:20.800
me a copy of the book,
but she did find out why no one

561
00:40:20.800 --> 00:40:25.679
has ever heard of the book besides
me. Apparently it was published in Wisconsin

562
00:40:27.079 --> 00:40:31.239
by some independent bookstore that went under
almost immediately afterwards, so there were only

563
00:40:31.280 --> 00:40:36.760
a couple of copies that existed in
the quote unquote wild I didn't really care

564
00:40:36.800 --> 00:40:39.800
about any of that after I heard
what she said. Next, she got

565
00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:45.119
the author's name, Cheryl Waterson.
It cost me two thousand dollars, but

566
00:40:45.159 --> 00:40:49.960
I finally found something useful. It
took me about two minutes of googling,

567
00:40:50.119 --> 00:40:53.800
and I had an address eight hours
away. I drove that weekend and hesitated

568
00:40:53.800 --> 00:40:58.039
when I arrived at the house.
It was one of those big three story

569
00:40:58.079 --> 00:41:00.039
of Victorians that always scared the shit
out to me when I was a little

570
00:41:00.360 --> 00:41:05.880
It reminded me of the farmhouse from
the book. A little bit before I

571
00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:08.800
could walk up to the door and
knock, however, a young woman opened

572
00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:13.679
the front door. What the hell
are you doing creeping around my house?

573
00:41:14.119 --> 00:41:19.599
The woman yelled, I stuttered.
Was I nervous? Of course I was

574
00:41:19.679 --> 00:41:22.440
nervous, so I just blurted out
the first thing I could think of.

575
00:41:22.840 --> 00:41:27.440
The sheep ran over the dog.
She looked at me in silence for a

576
00:41:27.480 --> 00:41:30.239
moment. If I had to describe
the look, it was a combination of

577
00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:35.440
confusion and fear. You aren't going
to leave, are you? The woman

578
00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:38.199
asked? And then come on in
the house is what I would expect an

579
00:41:38.239 --> 00:41:43.519
old woman to live in, flower
patterned cow can pillows, porson figures and

580
00:41:43.599 --> 00:41:47.320
glass cases, and a pile of
cork coasters on the tea table, Not

581
00:41:47.360 --> 00:41:52.199
the house of a woman who was
a year or two younger than I was.

582
00:41:52.199 --> 00:41:59.000
Was Sheryl your grandmother? She raised
me after my mom died, the

583
00:41:59.079 --> 00:42:02.280
girl replied. I could definitely feel
for her, considering my own past.

584
00:42:02.840 --> 00:42:08.559
She was eccentric, not strange,
just eccentric. I drank from the bottle

585
00:42:08.559 --> 00:42:12.920
of water she'd given me a couple
minutes ago. When did she pass?

586
00:42:13.440 --> 00:42:16.800
About a month after publishing the book
that you're asking about. Actually, her

587
00:42:16.800 --> 00:42:20.800
mind was already going a bit when
she wrote it, as you can imagine

588
00:42:20.800 --> 00:42:24.199
with how brutal the book was brutal. Maybe I was remembering the book wrong.

589
00:42:25.039 --> 00:42:29.760
Anyway, you're probably looking for a
copy, right, Yeah, I

590
00:42:29.880 --> 00:42:32.320
took another sip of the water bottle. Well, you are shit out of

591
00:42:32.440 --> 00:42:37.840
luck. All the copies I could
find I destroyed after she died. Hopefully

592
00:42:37.840 --> 00:42:42.639
your copy has gone too. I
couldn't understand who would want to destroy a

593
00:42:42.719 --> 00:42:45.639
children's book. Why, I asked, She asked me to. She had

594
00:42:45.679 --> 00:42:50.239
some clarity right before she died and
asked me to burn every single copy.

595
00:42:50.719 --> 00:42:52.360
There were a couple I couldn't find
it, but I just assumed they were

596
00:42:52.360 --> 00:42:55.880
gone in some thrift stores, never
to be found again. No luck with

597
00:42:55.960 --> 00:42:59.679
that, I guess. But she
looked at me. I'm glad, my

598
00:42:59.800 --> 00:43:02.599
girl mother brought some happiness to your
life, but please get the hell out

599
00:43:02.599 --> 00:43:07.920
of my house. And then she
kicked me out without much hesitation. I

600
00:43:07.000 --> 00:43:10.679
got the call when I was on
my way back from Wisconsin. My aunt

601
00:43:10.719 --> 00:43:14.800
had died in a car wreck.
She was half way to my place when

602
00:43:14.840 --> 00:43:17.440
she lost control of the car and
went off the road. She had found

603
00:43:17.599 --> 00:43:22.000
the sheep ran over the dog.
I was on her way to give me

604
00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:24.400
the book. I couldn't decide what
to do with the book. I haven't

605
00:43:24.400 --> 00:43:28.960
opened it yet, but I've looked
at the front cover and it's more than

606
00:43:29.000 --> 00:43:32.039
I imagined. The sheep on the
front cover had this sadistic look on its

607
00:43:32.039 --> 00:43:37.280
face, and the dog looked terrified. I remember the dog having its leg

608
00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:39.480
broken, but if the car hit
him like it did on the cover,

609
00:43:39.679 --> 00:43:44.480
his whole body would shatter. Ooh, I have fund memories of my mom

610
00:43:44.559 --> 00:43:47.320
reading this. But my mother,
my aunt, and the author died after

611
00:43:47.360 --> 00:43:52.920
reading this book. Cheryl wanted all
the books destroyed when she died. Maybe

612
00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:55.960
I should honor her wishes, but
who knows. Maybe I'm going to get

613
00:43:57.000 --> 00:44:00.760
bored and just read it. Did
I have a gonna read it? And

614
00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:05.159
then that's where it ends? It
doesn't read it? Nope, what an

615
00:44:05.199 --> 00:44:09.840
asshole. I picked this story obviously
because it's like a childhood book. There's

616
00:44:09.880 --> 00:44:14.199
a few books from our childhood which
I can't find. I was gonna say,

617
00:44:14.280 --> 00:44:16.400
there's a lot of things from our
childhood that we've even tried to google,

618
00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:20.119
like our Eaty Mini Mighty Mo version. Where do we even get that?

619
00:44:20.880 --> 00:44:23.960
And they just don't exist ever.
I picked it because it's like the

620
00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:29.039
Baba Duke. People who are reading
that book are dying, but you can't

621
00:44:29.039 --> 00:44:32.280
prove it. Yeah, it doesn't
exist, you know. And like there

622
00:44:32.360 --> 00:44:36.480
was the car accidents. Amelia almost
got in a car accident. The baba

623
00:44:36.559 --> 00:44:39.079
duke well and her husband died in
the car accident. So I don't know,

624
00:44:39.119 --> 00:44:42.840
I liked it. I also work
at a thrift store and I get

625
00:44:42.880 --> 00:44:45.559
some really old, weird shit.
That's a good story. Like who knows

626
00:44:45.559 --> 00:44:50.039
if a possessed book is gonna come
my fucking way. Not the greatest,

627
00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:55.039
but fitting. No, that's good, that's my story. What's your case?

628
00:44:55.159 --> 00:45:00.039
You're murder this year this year?
All right? Yeah, I guess

629
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:06.519
it is like our first time this
year, you aim? All right.

630
00:45:07.239 --> 00:45:14.800
The murderer I'll be discussing this week
is Lisa Snyder. Sounds like such a

631
00:45:14.880 --> 00:45:19.639
normal name, huh, And here
we go. Lisa Snyder is a thirty

632
00:45:19.639 --> 00:45:24.760
seven year old single mother of three. She suffers from anxiety and depression.

633
00:45:25.360 --> 00:45:30.320
None of her children's fathers are in
the picture, but from the outside everything

634
00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:34.599
seemed okay. Yeah, she was
struggling, but no one ever thought there

635
00:45:34.679 --> 00:45:38.800
was any red flags. Her children
were taken away in the twenty fourteen were

636
00:45:38.840 --> 00:45:44.000
returned to her the next year.
She ended up having another kid after that,

637
00:45:44.159 --> 00:45:47.880
hence the three children. On the
morning of September twenty third, twenty

638
00:45:49.159 --> 00:45:53.199
nineteen, Lisa went to Walmart where
she bought a dog leash. Of course,

639
00:45:53.239 --> 00:45:58.960
it's Walmart. She specifically picked out
one that had a capacity of two

640
00:45:59.079 --> 00:46:02.679
hundred and fifty pounds, which is
a pretty strong dog leash. Lisa only

641
00:46:02.760 --> 00:46:07.559
had a five month old puppy at
home. It's odd that she would choose

642
00:46:07.599 --> 00:46:09.320
such a strong leash. Dude,
you wouldn't even need that, Meg,

643
00:46:09.400 --> 00:46:13.599
and your dogs are cute. Then
she went about her normal day. Her

644
00:46:13.679 --> 00:46:16.840
children were at school and her seventeen
year old was out wherever. When the

645
00:46:16.840 --> 00:46:21.840
two youngest children came home, her
eight year old son named Connor and her

646
00:46:21.840 --> 00:46:24.840
four year old daughter, Brindley.
Connor told his mom that he had a

647
00:46:24.840 --> 00:46:29.559
horrible day, that he was bullied
due to his weight. Same so he

648
00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:32.880
told his mom that him and Brindley
we're gonna go in the basement and build

649
00:46:32.880 --> 00:46:37.159
a fort. On the way to
the basement, he saw the brand new

650
00:46:37.159 --> 00:46:39.239
purchase dog leash on the table and
was like, oh, can we use

651
00:46:39.280 --> 00:46:43.800
that? She was like sure.
They went into the basement and she went

652
00:46:43.800 --> 00:46:47.039
outside to smoke a cigarette. Some
time passed, and she realized how she

653
00:46:47.039 --> 00:46:51.480
hadn't heard from her kids in a
while, and not hearing your kids,

654
00:46:51.760 --> 00:46:54.760
especially young kids, is never a
good So Lisa went down into the basement

655
00:46:54.880 --> 00:46:59.760
and what she saw she couldn't even
comprehend. They're in front of her.

656
00:47:00.360 --> 00:47:02.840
She saw her eight year olds on
Connor and her four year old daughter Brindley,

657
00:47:04.360 --> 00:47:09.000
hanging by their necks from the dog
leash on the ceiling rafters. Both

658
00:47:09.039 --> 00:47:15.880
of them. Next to their bodies
lay two bar stools knocked over. So

659
00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:20.559
did they use one leash for both
of them somehow? Yes. Lisa tried

660
00:47:20.599 --> 00:47:23.480
her best to get her children down
from the rafters and free them from the

661
00:47:23.519 --> 00:47:27.920
wire on their necks, but for
some reason she couldn't, so she ran

662
00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:32.320
upstairs and called nine one one.
She then claimed that Connor must have hanged

663
00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:38.239
himself and his sister because he didn't
want to die alone. When the paramedics

664
00:47:38.280 --> 00:47:44.320
arrived, they saw the children still
hanging there and they couldn't imagine how Lisa

665
00:47:44.360 --> 00:47:47.760
couldn't have gotten them down, so
they had to do it. Once on

666
00:47:47.760 --> 00:47:52.880
the ground, they tried everything to
resuscitate the children, but to no avail.

667
00:47:52.440 --> 00:47:57.599
Connor and Brindley were then taken to
the hospital and put on life saving

668
00:47:57.679 --> 00:48:02.239
equipment. There were still alive.
Yeah, Lisa never entered the basement again,

669
00:48:02.320 --> 00:48:07.519
and she wasn't acting like a mother
would in this kind of terrible tragedy.

670
00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:10.719
First she started telling the police such
a bad day Connor had. It

671
00:48:10.800 --> 00:48:14.679
was kind of too perfect. Oh
my god, he just told me he

672
00:48:14.719 --> 00:48:19.639
was bullied, and now this.
She even started saying that he had threatened

673
00:48:19.639 --> 00:48:24.280
to kill himself in the past.
She told the cost over twenty pounds,

674
00:48:24.679 --> 00:48:29.760
but that he still got teased about
his weight. And she started telling the

675
00:48:29.760 --> 00:48:34.360
story that Connor must have committed suicide
and made his sister do it with him

676
00:48:34.400 --> 00:48:37.960
so he wouldn't die alone. I'm
sure you all have heard of this case.

677
00:48:37.159 --> 00:48:42.119
It was all over Facebook last year. What had happened. People still

678
00:48:42.159 --> 00:48:46.679
truly believe that this little boy convinced
his baby sister to commit this and speakable

679
00:48:46.719 --> 00:48:50.760
act so that he wouldn't die alone. Like, there are really people out

680
00:48:50.800 --> 00:48:54.639
there who believe this, but it's
not true. Lisa Snyder tells so many

681
00:48:54.679 --> 00:48:59.360
lies that she was trying to get
away with the double murder of her children.

682
00:48:59.679 --> 00:49:02.880
Even at the hospital, she began
to text her friends and family that

683
00:49:02.880 --> 00:49:07.920
the kids were already dead when they
were on life support, and she began

684
00:49:07.000 --> 00:49:12.079
trying to make arrangements to sell her
puppy. Police are smarter than most people

685
00:49:12.119 --> 00:49:15.199
give them credit for her, and
they were seeing through all the shit that

686
00:49:15.280 --> 00:49:17.719
Lisa was spilling. They noticed that
how after calling nine one one, she

687
00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:22.679
never entered the basement again. Any
decent parent would be right at their children's

688
00:49:22.679 --> 00:49:28.119
sides, especially with paramedics there.
Hell, when my kid was at the

689
00:49:28.159 --> 00:49:30.840
fucking er for three hours with a
broken arm, I didn't text anyone.

690
00:49:30.920 --> 00:49:35.559
I was by his side the entire
time. I called you like three times.

691
00:49:35.599 --> 00:49:37.440
You like swim with my child a
camp? Yeah? And I told

692
00:49:37.480 --> 00:49:39.280
you like the next day, like, hey, this is what happened.

693
00:49:39.599 --> 00:49:45.440
They also found it suspicious how she
began to immediately tell police about the bullying

694
00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:49.480
and all of that. She was
ready and when they started to investigate,

695
00:49:49.519 --> 00:49:53.079
from all accounts from the teachers and
the staff, they all reported Connor being

696
00:49:53.119 --> 00:50:00.960
a very happy child who never once
discussed any interests in suicidal ideation. After

697
00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:05.880
three days, Connor and Brinley were
both removed from life support. There was

698
00:50:05.920 --> 00:50:09.639
no brain activity, so she got
what she wanted. They found so much

699
00:50:09.719 --> 00:50:14.280
evidence on her. It was insane. There's a lot of evidence in this

700
00:50:14.320 --> 00:50:17.840
case where it's like people's text messages
from her Facebook messages, things like that.

701
00:50:19.159 --> 00:50:22.920
On her phone, they found the
following Google searches. September seventeenth,

702
00:50:22.960 --> 00:50:27.400
so about five days before the murders, she looked up carbon monoxide in a

703
00:50:27.400 --> 00:50:31.079
car, How long to die?
Three days after that almost got away with

704
00:50:31.119 --> 00:50:37.639
the best episodes? Two days after
that hanging yourself. September twenty second,

705
00:50:38.440 --> 00:50:45.320
she allegedly visited a website detailing how
to hang and on the twenty third she

706
00:50:45.400 --> 00:50:50.920
looked up does a hybrid car produced
carbon monoxide? So, as you can

707
00:50:50.960 --> 00:50:54.440
tell her original plan. About a
week leading up to the murder of the

708
00:50:54.519 --> 00:51:00.119
children, she was already researching some
kind of carbon monoxide way to do it.

709
00:51:00.400 --> 00:51:02.679
I think she knew how messy that
was. People think it's a lot

710
00:51:02.719 --> 00:51:07.719
more peaceful. No, dude,
you vomit uncontrollably. Your body will try

711
00:51:07.719 --> 00:51:09.440
to save itself. So unless you
like lock them in your car or something,

712
00:51:09.559 --> 00:51:13.800
I don't know how she thought this
would work. She also bought leash

713
00:51:13.840 --> 00:51:17.280
at Walmart the day of the murder, Like, really, that's a little

714
00:51:17.320 --> 00:51:25.760
too coincidental, plus the kind of
leash. They also found images of Lisa

715
00:51:25.960 --> 00:51:34.639
performing extremely inappropriate acts to her five
month old puppy. She fucked her dog.

716
00:51:34.719 --> 00:51:39.119
One image showed the puppy performing oral
on her, and the other image

717
00:51:39.119 --> 00:51:44.960
they found it's so disgusting, I
want to throw up. It showed the

718
00:51:45.039 --> 00:51:47.639
puppy, the innocent little puppy,
laying on its back, just being a

719
00:51:47.679 --> 00:51:53.719
puppy, her holding it's penis in
her hand. She was holding dog in

720
00:51:53.760 --> 00:52:00.000
her hand. Why and then she
sent these images, these horrible images to

721
00:52:00.119 --> 00:52:06.480
a number on her phone that she
had named daddy. Oh that's the kind

722
00:52:06.519 --> 00:52:10.639
of woman, Lisa Snyder. As
you guys, They actually found out during

723
00:52:10.679 --> 00:52:15.159
the investigation from the school and all
of that, that Connor had a physical

724
00:52:15.199 --> 00:52:20.800
disability. It was so severe that
he couldn't even tie his own shoelaces.

725
00:52:21.199 --> 00:52:25.679
So here's a big ass hole in
her story. Two nooses, yeah,

726
00:52:27.400 --> 00:52:30.519
feet and on him it was a
clasp, but the class be part.

727
00:52:30.760 --> 00:52:35.280
Yeah, he couldn't even do that
clasp, So there we go, right

728
00:52:35.280 --> 00:52:37.599
there, They didn't do it.
They then realized that the wire around their

729
00:52:37.599 --> 00:52:43.079
necks was connected to the beam on
the ceiling. How would these two little

730
00:52:43.159 --> 00:52:47.800
kids, even standing on stools,
throw that over, make sure it went

731
00:52:47.840 --> 00:52:52.679
over the beam, come down,
and then it doesn't seem pausible that two

732
00:52:52.719 --> 00:52:55.519
young kids would know how to Yeah, they wouldn't be able to do.

733
00:52:55.760 --> 00:53:00.239
Kids are stupid. Police also wanted
to know how could have talked her two

734
00:53:00.320 --> 00:53:06.039
kids into doing this in the first
place, though, because it's a simultaneous

735
00:53:06.119 --> 00:53:08.719
thing. It didn't happen like one
at a time. But there are some

736
00:53:08.840 --> 00:53:13.519
questions that will be answered during the
trial. This case is so new that

737
00:53:14.159 --> 00:53:17.119
it's still in the works. It
is. On December second, twenty nineteen,

738
00:53:17.360 --> 00:53:21.800
Lisa Snyder was charged with the first
degree murder of both her children,

739
00:53:22.280 --> 00:53:27.360
third degree murder, animal cruelty,
sexual intercourse with the dog, tampering with

740
00:53:27.400 --> 00:53:31.360
evidence, and child negligence. On
March twelfth of twenty twenty, she was

741
00:53:31.440 --> 00:53:35.880
reigned and they will be seeking the
death penalty in this case. That's one

742
00:53:35.920 --> 00:53:38.400
good thing that I can tell you. She is due back in court on

743
00:53:38.519 --> 00:53:44.159
June twenty ninth of this year.
My sources for this case were Crime Online,

744
00:53:44.360 --> 00:53:49.559
Law and Crime Oxygen, Fox News, and McAll dot Com. I

745
00:53:49.639 --> 00:53:52.320
chose this case because in the movie
The Baba Duke, the mom tries to

746
00:53:52.400 --> 00:53:54.760
kill her son. The basement is
a big part of the film, and

747
00:53:55.000 --> 00:54:00.880
she kills the dog. Within this
murder case, the mom kills her kids

748
00:54:00.880 --> 00:54:06.320
in the basement and she horribly abuses
his dog. So yeah, that was

749
00:54:06.360 --> 00:54:09.280
my case. I'm really sorry that
we're starting off this new season with baby

750
00:54:09.320 --> 00:54:14.519
murder, but I just thought it
fit really well. You love killing babies

751
00:54:14.679 --> 00:54:21.280
and we love watching movies for dogs. Die again. Guys, are so

752
00:54:21.320 --> 00:54:24.639
sorry. We're gone so long.
We just really needed a break, but

753
00:54:24.760 --> 00:54:30.360
we're back now, we're back.
Our next episode will be on the Netflix

754
00:54:30.480 --> 00:54:37.159
Film platform. It should be coming
out Monday, our episode, so we'll

755
00:54:37.199 --> 00:54:39.480
see Yeah, we'll see you then
We'll love you on Case We Die.

756
00:54:39.599 --> 00:54:44.360
Bye. Thank you all so much
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757
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758
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759
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