It's bilified the Bill Moran Podcast. Well, hello and welcome. Thanks for
getting your pat on, Thanks for telling a friend. That's how we spread
the word about the pirate ship. We were on location in Roarbock Brewings,
Beer Hall, Railroad Street, ninety seven Railroad Street. What a setup in
here, man, Yeah, I know. It's such a these This is
becoming like a destination area right the public markets just a few feet away.
I see all these chicks walk around, the sun dresses all walk it in
here. Of course you did this whole strip. Why I see it?
Noticed, and I saw too. I thought I'm married. I was so
focused on getting here. I noticed none of that. Oh yeah, I
didn't. I honestly, I didn't see it. That's the greatest thing about
summer. Right here. We are heading into the holiday weekend. And uh
what Fourth of July has always been my favorite holiday since I was a kid.
I too, I love, Yes, And the reason it was for
me was especially as I get older, because I guess what was outdoor drinking?
Yes, that would be primarily in but I think, uh, I
think for me as a kid, you know, Christmas was awesome right as
a child, Yes, And then as I got older, I just realized
that I had more fun even as a child. Fourth of July. My
grandfather was a New York City fireman. Now fireworks are now somewhat legal in
New York State. I don't even know what the what the legalities they had.
They're late they have. They can't go in the air, they're grounded
fireworks okay, and the sparkles and stuff can go, but it has to
stay on. But you gotta be real pricked to bust somebody for shooting off
fireworks on the Fourth of July. I shoot him off in a cops driveway.
And we used to shoot bottle rockets at each other. We'd have like
or we used to have somebody we get drunk if we would try to race
a bottle rocket like we would put it in a bottle and somebody would hold
it and then you see if he could beat the run after playing old lawn
yards with the metal tall God, they were all kinds of stupid stuff.
But the reason for the July was as a child, you know, my
grandfather being a New York City fireman in Chinatown, you could buy all the
fireworks you want. Oh yeah, And he was a New York City fireman.
Next door was mister Mallen imagined that name his wife from Ireland. He
was a New York City police officer. Across the street was another guy,
mister Green. Mister Green was a I believe a fireman as well, and
they used to, I mean, the three of them would get together.
So my grandfather would have my uncle positioned by the house with a host's just
the case. It's sure as shit. Something landed on the roof and they're
spraying it down trying to get it to go out. And then they had
cannons that they would that actually fired like these are the greatest fireworks I'd ever
seen. It was like a little cannon and they would roll and they put
him in the street to see which one, and then once one got hit,
it would blow up into like big sky fireworks shooting off. These guys
put on a show and everybody was drunk and happy and eating and food and
there was no pressure, right, there was no And as I got older,
I realized, Wait, I don't have to buy anybody a gift,
right, you know. The gift is freedom. That's awesome. Yeah,
hey baby, you're free. It's American. Yeah, it's always the best
time to blow off fireworks too, when you're hammered. Yeah, yeah,
and I can always be there. My uncle used to light offgar light off
cigars. He would light off fireworks with the cigars. So every year on
the second of July, second of Jason Pierre Paul, Yeah right, so
the second of July, I was gonna bring him up. We would we
would drive down to Erie, Pennsylvania. Now area is strategically located between Ohio
and New York, two states where you could not at the time out of
the still can buy the fireworks that they shoot off at the beach. Yeah,
you know that you need to have a license for Okay, so you
now an erie. They could not sell them if you than Pennsylvania, but
they could sell them if you lived in New York or Ohio. So we
would buy a ton of them, bring them back across the border. Right
then on the third or fourth of July, after the after the city or
the village you had their fireworks, my uncle with his cigar and his ex
wife now like yelling at him, would light off these cigars or these these
fireworks, and the cops would show up every year and my uncle goes,
yeah, I own Aunt Millie's family restaurant. Oh yeah, yeah, it'll
just be more careful. Just be careful, that's all. We just want
to see what was going on. That's all right, great, great,
we just had a blast. I've spent a pretty penny. Just over the
first exit off of the Thruway going southward Pennsylvania, there's like fireworks shops right
there. How much have you spent on fireworks? I mean, I'm just
at a curiosity. Do you mind saying on a good trip? Probably I
don't spend a tonybott two three hundred bucks. That seems like a lot to
me. Well, I'm by I'd buy a lot of small stuff. Yeah,
so I have I go for quantity over you go into every americans favorite
store in Walmart or Target. Uh, and you can buy I like the
prepackaged stuff, can't you? And they I thought they had bottle rockets in
there. They don't. They might there the ground ones, like I said,
as long as it stays on this possession on the ground doesn't shoot.
Yeah, so high into the sky you can. You can do your bottle
rockets. Yeah, so damn through when five or years ago in front of
ours? Yes, who thought I was very mad. I don't know why,
but anyway, yeah, I don't get it. He gave me a
bunch of stuff, so I had it. When I lived in Pitchford,
I had it in my I had like a tools room off the garage,
and I remember going out on the fourth of July and laying off the points
are like, oh man, they were in the pool, and all of
a sudden, I hear, why does God Mike man? My extual wife
Wint not happy with me for that. But then we got those sparklers wrapped
by the pool. Everybody's happy for the July and the boys are waving around
and all of a sudden, you see Jordan. He's hopping around like a
fool. An ash had landed between his toes. He couldn't get it off.
I finally just put me into the pools. You sort of heard of
that, poor kid, and I'm laughing. I'm laughing. Well, I
was buzz. I think I drank a lot of beer that day. And
that's what we're doing here at Roarer Box Beer. Dad burned the shit out
of his hand one year. Yeah, he pulled a JPP too. Now
he wasn't holding fire crackers in his head he's just lightened the sparkler and it
caught him just to get cut. Yeah, Jordan right between his toes and
landed right between his toes. Uh. You know, if you get a
chance, I mean, talk about Americana and talk about a business that is
Rochester and American. It's Robock Brewing Company. They have two locations, once
on Buffalo Road. We're at the one on State Street in downtown. But
they brew beer, which is great for the holiday, right. You pick
up a nice four pack, six pack, twelve pack, whatever you want
over here, and you got to come down and just check it out because
the bar is huge. The food we're gonna get in a little while,
and I'm I know is going to be delicious, you can just tell.
And it's got a really warm avage fear in here. I'm like really impressed.
Yeah, I hadn't been into this location before and I really like it.
And I was hoping John Erlab I don't know, he may be around,
he may not be around, but I just loved his whole thing.
I mean, this is a guy who I believe it was working at Kodak
and had been stationed over in Germany. Not stations that would be which it
would be in the army, but he was over in Germany. Koda could
be like the armies. Rohrbach was a town over there, and he liked
the beer and decided to come back. And I go, boy, that's
like gutsy, is it? Yeah? Not? And I love that stuff,
you know. And as the more and more were we had heard over
the past couple of weeks the sub that went down, right, and I
keep going to the ballsy ones and I've had people go yeah, but they
were skirting regulations that were yeah, but everybody knew. Everybody that was getting
on that thing new they could come out now and say stuff. And was
it tragic? Absolutely. The bad part is that the Navy pretty much knew
it had imploded on Sunday and they still did or for everybody, right,
maybe that's why they kicked the Brits out because they knew it was already.
Yeah. Well the Navy said they heard something. They think that and they
think that that's what they heard, but they needed to do I mean,
there was no confirmation on it, but I would like even that. I
mean, that's like, well, bro, I mean, that's a lot
of money, time and effort that went in from a lot of places.
But either way, all I'm saying is it's those kind of gutsy ones that
we have the oldest craft brewery in the Greater Rogers. The original craft brewery
came in over thirty years. He oh yeah, this is this was thirty
years. And what I love about John Earlob and I've only heard this,
and this is the greatest thing. When somebody else says something about you,
that's when you know it's really true or about someone else. Right. I
have heard from other breweries that said when I was opening, John Earlob sat
with me for five hours and explained the process and tried to tell me some
of the things to avoid because he had gone before me. That's awesome.
Isn't that awesome because you don't have to do that. Yeah, it's like,
but you're helping a brother out. A lot of people like take the
Day of Thomas approach, where if you're not that your competition in this case
will be drowning. They're just starting out. But the philosophy is your competition
is drown to throw a hose down their deck, right, yeah, and
that's not our house down their throat in this case. You know, John
sitting there helping people were trying this out, and there he is. We
were just talking about you, and there he is. I was just okay,
we were just talking about General eleven. There he goes walking by.
Yeah that's very funny. But yeah, you're right. Put a hose down
your neck. And I will tell you that. I think I don't know
if that whole philosophy, because I think it was a bit of a philosophy
even in radio. I think in all business is changing because you you'll see
athletes that are helping each other out, working together in the offseason. You
know who is the kid that didn't go to high school. They got recruited
about a week ago in the NBA Big tall kiddies, nineteen years old.
Anyway, he was going to work out and reached out to Steph Curry,
and Steph said, yeah, I'll work with you. And because you because
you take part, you take a little of the ownership in their success.
And that's not even part of it. It's just that that's just how the
generations are now, isn't it. It's very collaborative. Like a lot of
people killed Lebron James for teaming up with Chris Bosh and Twain Wade. But
I mean that's kind of like it's a good thing. It's not a bad
thing. It's a good thing that people are, you know, doing that.
Like like the example, like a Facebook, Twitter, all these like
social media sites could have like just gone after each other, but they realize
if we work together, we could go further. Yeah, that's the idea.
I feel like they do a little bit. They do go yeah,
after each other, they do, but at the same time they know,
okay, we could all link up and stuff like well, there's certain ways
everybody has. I think majority of people have an account on more than one
social media right yeah, right, right, And I don't know if it
would be Facebook and Instagram or the most popular, but Twitter and TikTok and
the others. I think it's well take it. We'll take it back to
radio. Okay, Like before the FCC allowed you to like go and buy
up like a quarter of the radio companies in the in the area, everybody
was going after the same target audiences. And when they when that got when
they allowed deregulation, all of a sudden, okay, you you you're gonna
go after women twenty five to fifty four you're gonna go after men, you're
gonna go after senior citizens, you're gonna go after sports fans. Yeah,
we can all work together now, okay, done? Yeah there is.
I mean, look, you get more in in uh collaboration, for sure.
We're all yeah, we're all set. But the funny part was I
was just talking about you. It was bragging about you. Yeah, if
do you mind just real quick right here, and those headphones I think will
work if you want to, if you want to be able to hear and
then lean in. What I was saying was that I think it's always amazing
to me you can't hear. Uh? Is that? Are they even?
They are? You just gotta pull that step out? Hey? How about
them? Sound like for a second? All right, I apologize what I
was gonna good now yeah, okay, down, it's better. It's better
with them. So what I was gonna say was, and if you can
do, is that it's always great when you hear something about someone from someone
else. And I was saying that, you know, being the original craft
brewery in the Greater Rochester area, there are other craft breweries that have said
to me that you sat with them for five hours to try to help them
avoid some of the pitfalls along the way, and I go that that's an
amazing thing to me. Yeah. Well, first of all, welcome guys,
Thanks, thank you for having We do appreciate it. Um, you
know that's surprising to me. No, I'm only kidding. It's just it's
been good and it's been fun. It's been a great ride. You know.
That's kind of what's unique I think about craft beer. Everybody that's in
it, what kind of I hate to say against the big guys. Everybody
wants everybody to succeed. You know. It's not only we don't want them
to succeed, but we really want to make sure everybody's making great beer so
that as a whole, the beer business just continues to grow. The craft
beer business that you say, people will be converted from beers that you know
are fine, They're very consistent and not a lot of flavor compared to what
we're doing. Yes, and hopefully if we all work together, even though
it is more competitive that it ever used to be, we work together,
we'll all be better off. And that's just how it's always been and it's
still that way. While you're here, talk to us real quick, about
the beer fest that's coming on at the Public Market, which just up the
street from where we're sitting right now on ninety seven Railroad Street. Kind of
how that all came about because you have sixty five craft breweries, but more
from the region than outside the region, I would assume. Yeah, and
there's other festivals we've but kind of prided ourselves on the fact that, you
know, we call it Flower City Brewers Fest, so it is Rochester.
We got a lot of great breweries around here. You know, some festival
and again everybody heads their little niche. There are festivals who really try to
bring in some breweries that are not easily available in the area, which is
fine. I think that's a great concept too. We want to accent the
fact that we've got some world class breweries right here in town. Well,
we did the Beauty of the Fast and we encourage people is that, you
know, they feel the same way. So they don't want to just bring
the stuff they make every day. They want to bring the real unique stuff
that will show off, you know, their best side. So we always
say even though we focus on local and we're proud of that, and that's
never gonna change. We always give them the first chance or the right to
first refusal, and then we'll get some outside breweries. But the local guys
can really take pride in that, and the people that come that want unique
stuff will get unique stuff. They just happen to get unique stuff from the
local brewer. I think that's incredible, I really do. I think it's
such a great concept. How many years has that been happening. I know
the Flower City Brewers fres have been a number of years, but they don't
know how many. Oh, you know, it's it's a funny thing.
I think we've always done that. Yeah, things have changed, you know.
Back in the day we have been doing those twenty plus years. It
was ninety three or ninety four. We did it down in canadagu Sound of
bur Gardens that we were at the High Falls site for a while. Okay,
that was a you know, a bigger entertainment venture. Yeah, and
then we did a Frontier Field for a while. And it's kind of funny
to the other big festival in town is the Rosherrel Alfast. Yes, and
that is back at Frontier Field. Yeahs a week or so ago. It
was great. It was great to be back. They're great venue for it,
so, you know, and that's that's great for them, But well
we moved to the market, which has been years now too. It's a
perfect venue for it. You know, the market is all about local mostly
farmers, but local purveyors or businesses. Now we've got kombucha across the street.
We still have Black Button next door to us and everything. You know,
it's all about local producers making high quality stuff, family run. So
we thought once we got there then we had a really focus on locals week.
How long have you been in this spot since ninety three? Uh?
No, no, no, no, we were here in two thousand and
eight, two thousand and eight, So since then, it feels like it
is starting to really become a destination area with Black Button having come in and
then you're here and kombucha. I mean that's sort of kind of your you
showing that it can work here. Yeah, we were, We were one
of the earlier Yeah for sure. But I think you know, chains won't
come into these locations. They just won't be because it's unknown. Right,
Entrepreneurs that are hungry, that believe in what they're making and what they're doing,
are willing to take the risk. And again, we were early on,
but there's great better Honey, Ziggis is right here. You know,
the market has always and the thing that I thought was kind of cool is
that the market has always been a destination, not only for city residents,
from people all over the regions. So they know it. And there's parking,
which is unique. But it used to stop right after the market,
you know, two o'clock, where was dead or it was dead right and
then all these other places they're saying, you know, it's cool, is
it. Parking in the city is always a challenge, especially when everything is
busy at the same time. Well, and people in the beginning would say,
well the market, there was no parking in the market. Well,
it's a little tough on Saturday mornings when you've got thirty thousand people up there.
But at night, when there's a few of us open, there's plenty
of parking and a lot. It's a totally different vibe. It used to
be really really quiet, and you know, it's changed a lot, and
I think in a positive way because we still invite now I shouldn't say invite.
We still attract people from the neighbor hood as well as the suburbs and
from all around because they know what the market is. So it's been a
good fit. I'm looking at Warehouse one twenty seven across the street. None
of that stuff was here, That's what I mean, really just where.
I love seeing that stuff developed. I love seeing the city in these parts.
It's safe, it's great. This space, this space is fantastic.
Yeah. I love like the open concept. I love the whole kind of
the rustic. I love that. Yeah, well we do too. Yeah.
See, we're very very lucky to this buildings over one hundred years old.
A lot of the tables, I say, we had to take for
some of the tanks in order to get here because the ceilings were fourteen foot
ceilings are high. Yeah, they were big enough for the tanks. So
we took some beans out and that's how we made the tables with. And
somebody said that like like a big post like that had to come from a
tree that was one hundred years old, right, Well, if the buildings
one hundred years old, that means that wood is probably two hundred years old.
Yeah, And I just think that's that's great, and that is you
know they call about it a building has good bones. This is the bones
of Rochester. Yeah, this builds as a warehouse. Uh. It actually
the people that built it brought in because we're right by the railroad tracks around
Railroad Street. They brought in all the hardwood that you know a lot of
the East Avenue homes would use for their trim molding and stuff. So you
know this even you know, could date back to you go to those beautiful
homes. A lot of the stuff came right from here. Wow, it's
pretty cool. Yeah, I think that is very cool, very cool.
So how the beer's Great Beers is excellent? Yeah, yeah, Danny wanted
to try the honey Bush. I think Kevin's having the Blueberry. I had
a night one of your IPA's. Absolutely, but your Scotch Jail is amazing.
It's my favorite beer. Thank you. Well that is by far.
You know we always say too, we didn't. It wasn't like really our
intent. Well, let's just make a Scotch jail of people I love.
We just made whatever beer we happened alike, and we made it the best
we could, and that just rose to the time. Nobody comes close to
that. Thank people have tried, and I'm being honest, like nobody could
come close. Thank you. Yeah, well we're a little biased on two
things. I don't mean to keep you because I'm sure you've got a million
things you want to do. But I'm just so blown away by being over
in Germany for Kodak and seeing this stuff and then coming back here to go
I can do that. I find that an amazing chime. I'm not kidding.
I mean, I'm not trying to. I find that amazing. And
then you did it, and here we are thirty something years later. It's
like, wow, Yeah, just our business alone, because a lot of
our business is still I mean, we love the wholesale side, we love
making beer and selling it to folks. Really, the retail side, I
still love this to the restaurant side, entertainment and stuff, and that does
change over time. Just you have to have and I've been very, very
lucky to shround yourself with really passionate people. Right, are significantly younger than
me, and they're just getting started like I did thirty years ago. Right.
If you don't, if you lose that passion, your business will suffer.
And really the new places that are opening up around they tend to be
new entrepreneurs with that passion to make it just the best they can. And
it is hard. After thirty years, I'm a saying I don't have that
passion, but you got to bring people in that haven't because these guys have
fire in the belly and it's more than that too their word. You know,
they're I can out pay my bills, but I couldn't in the beginning,
and if they can't heat, it's tough. And they just have that
drive and that fear that I've gotta be the best fing to be. So
we've been able to maintain that just because of the people that Again I think
I surround myself, but we've as some people with us for more than twenty
five years. That's great. They bring the knowledge and the wisdom, but
the young people keep the passion and we just keep rolling and I love it.
Yeah. Do you have any Brewers around that we may be able to
talk to? I don't know. I think you might be a little light
back there. I don't know, but could someone come and talk to us
about creating some of the beers here today? Or no? Oh, you
know, I'm gonna want to you know, Okay, okay, uh,
And again I appreciate you here. Robbie is here Yeah, he's one of
our brewers at Buffalo Road and he usually does a shift on Saturday. I
think he's still here. Okay, really depends if he is willing to do
it. Okay, okay. We appreciate what you guys do. It looks
like you're comfortable here. Enjoy the beers. Great set up as fantastic fantasy
on August eighteen, stop back to see us. Yeah, a lot of
fun. Absolutely, yes we will. And if people are looking for tickets,
you gotta go to Flower City Brewers Fest dot com slash tickets and he
can get ta tickets. Yeah, VIPs sell out right away. Yeah,
honestly, the GA tickets. The beauty of it is still have three great
hours. We try to do the best we can to get so many breweries
that there aren't long lines. People know the market. It is a perfect
venue for sampling. Yeah, we got great brothers. Blue is playing and
they're fantastic goal add to the party and uh, lots of great, lots
of great stuff. So we want to keep that on a roll. And
I really do hope people will stop buying and see us. Thank you very
much. Yes, I think they will. That's always guys here. We
goes John Orlov, the founder and owner of Roboc Brewing Company. We shall
take a moment as we are here at ninety seven Railroad Street, and I'm
telling the August eighteenth. Yeah, that just sounds like fun, does it?
Does? Does it sound like? Yeah? We'll be there. Yeah.
Kevin Mick, Kevin Driver, he's got a van. Did it pretty
well the other night. His liver could use a break. Never b t
B wood Fire Pizza and Grill. They're in the mall at Grease Ridge,
and let me tell you something. They're ready for the warmer weather. They're
about to change over their specials. So there's just a limited time, like
a day to grab yourself a chicken French mel Oh my goodness, so good,
I've had it. I know what I'm talking about. It may be
the best sandwich I've ever had. And I mean that chicken french is incredible.
Put that on sour dough. Fantastic. That's to get at bTB wood
Fire Pizza and Grill. They even have a watermelon shalad, perfect for summer.
How about you wash it down with a bikini martini. Again, only
a couple of days for all these specials, but I'll give you a hint.
I was told, yeah by somebody who might know that they are going
to have a seafood pizza for the month of July. How good does that
sound? But you know what, it's not going away. Ten dollars pizza
on Tuesdays and age. Oh that ten dollars pizza comes. It's large,
by the way, it's large, and it comes with one topping. Get
it all at bTB and also Sunday Brunch. I mean, buy one,
get one free of motion and Bloody Mary. Come on, you can't go
wrong BTBS. What fire Pizza and grill It's in the mall at Grease Ridge.
It's food trucking carring season at Jimmy Place in Shakes dot Com. Oh
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They are creating some of the best whiskey and bourbon you've ever tasted.
A matter of fact, Forbes magazine, right, not just me, Forbes
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come on now, that is something to be proud of, right,
And they really are artists out there. I mean, think of all the
things the craft cocktails, the bartenders, they're artists back there. You give
in there and you order a peacemaker, just say Bill Moran told me to
get a peacemaker. They'll make it for you and you will be happy you
ask for it, as you've taken some great live music, you know.
Friday night they have the Acoustic Sunset Sessions and they're gonna have Eric Ferrari playing.
It's free. It's a free show Becaus at five o'clock and then later
that night Flannel Underground from eight thirty to eleven thirty playing all your favorite grunge
from the nineties. Flannel Underground. It's all happening in Ironsmoke Distillery right here
in Fairport, New York. Baby Conrey's Irish Paub the happiest place in Fairport
or maybe on Earth. Paul Cole from Landed Legends is on the line and
Paul Monday is a Big Day super Series and the Sierra Sta Sprince will be
joining us on Monday. I'm excited. I actually am gonna come down with
my youngest son. It's gonna be a great It's gonna be a great night.
You know, we're a little pence up. We get we had a
great show on tap last week and Mother Nature decided to stop by about four
o'clock and dump about an interne Yeah, and killed our show. But we
had We had the Pitts reps in jampack full and they're excited to be back
here this next next Monday. Yeah, I think Monday is gonna be a
lot of fun and everybody's in that holiday spirit. And I gotta tell you,
honestly, when you think of Americana dirt track racing, I mean that's
one of the reasons one of the guys who runs on your track runs,
yeah, because it's a it's American. It's uh Peter, Peter Britain.
Peter Britain. He's from Australia. Yes, And Peter told me that this
was an American kind of racing and he really wanted to get into it.
Yep. Here since since he got here and become one of the stars of
the sport and uh and been in no hurry to go back to Australia.
No, you know, he's loved he loved life in America and living living
the dream of being a professional race car driver. Yep. And that is
h that is very cool. Well, I'm looking forward to it, and
I do think that it's a great way to spend some of this holiday weekend.
Is down at Landa Legends twenty eight twenty County Road ten in uh Canandegua.
Yeah, it's Britain the weekend up to Tuesday, when you know a
lot of people have that Monday off or a usday, have to work half
the day, so'll have a good time to go out and enjoy it.
Have a frosty beverage, get to get some hamburgers and hot dogs and fried
dough in your belly and watch some of the best sprint car drivers and the
big block drivers in the northeast uh pound around a half mile. I love
a top speed. I love it. Thank you Paul, Thank you,
Sir Diner. Know that song Ceaze time beer drinkers and hell raisers. We
are at Roarbot Brewing Companies Beer All ninety seven Railroad Street in the city of
Rochester, and Robbie is one of the brewery brewers here. Do you primarily
work here or at the other location? I primarily work over at Buffalo Road.
If you get right in it, that's okay. They barely work over
at Buffalo Road. Okay, so are there specific beers. I would love
to know the brewing process and what kind of attracted you do the business.
Where you learned how to do this? I mean, all that stuff to
me is is fascinating. So let's start there. Where did you learn to
be a brewer? So? I started homebrewing? Okay, probably like a
nine years ago now, okay, just on your own, just decided this
is it. Yeah, I got into it, always liked craft beers,
and decided I try and start brewing myself. So I started at home and
fell in love with it. Yeah, and I worked at a restaurant for
you know, most of my career up until I started brewing here about two
years ago. So I took it from homebrewing and got interested and got my
foot in the door here and I been doing it ever since. Really,
now, have you created any flavors here? Have you done any beers that
anything? What one have you created? I've done two so far. Wow.
Last year I did one that was called the Golden Ticket that we're redoing
again this year. I mean, okay, almost like the named after Willie
Walking the chocolate factory. Yep, okay, all right, all right,
what is the Golden Ticket. If you were to get me like the I
don't know whatever I would read on the menu as the flavor of that or
the description of that. So it was a golden stout conditioned on cocoa nibs,
coffee beans, raspberries, and vanilla beans. And how long does it
take to come up with something like that. It's a process to write the
recipe and get all the numbers in. But the idea just kind of came
to me really. Yeah, it was inspired by a raspberry latte. Really.
That's so do you go around just tasting things and going, oh,
this could make a great beer? Yeah, pretty much. You know,
it's similar to cooking. Yeah, the aspect where I take you know,
you take different ideas from different recipes and put them together. Yeah. So
now it's still for that. It's coming out in October, So the Golden
Ticket's gonna come out, and then what is it? What's the other flavor
that you did? So I just brewed an ipa that I'm excited for.
Was my first like solo recipe and solo brew over at Buffalo Road this past
Friday. Okay, what's that called? That's gonna be called Finn's Adventure,
Finn's Adventure named after Huck Finn or my dog, your dog, hey,
whatever. That's pretty awesome. And so that'll be on the menu and so
and how cool is that for you? It's super exciting. It's always wanted
to get to the point where I can come up and create my own recipes.
Yeah, have them sold, And I got one. I got one
for you called a bilified chicken French some some sort of chicken French lemon flavored
kind of beer, summer shandy chicken French. It's all right, don't mind
him, he isn't taking his medication this morning. That delicious. How long
does it take to I mean when you go through this, there's got to
be a lot of iterations, right, tasting and all we could sell this.
We can't sell this. You know this will work, this will not
work. I mean, how does that process go. So we have a
pretty extensive process at this location. So we have called it taste panel.
Yeah. So every day all the all the brewer's staff that work here will
take turns sitting and trying aging beers, whether they're cold aging or warm aging.
And that helps dial in recipes and things. A lot are able to
really come up with taste descriptors and uh yeah, different things like that.
How long is it? So that's every day and even weekend days like Saturday,
Sunday, Monday through Monday through Friday. Bill would like to volunteer for
that. No, but that is interesting. It would be interesting to see
it, you know, just to see how that that process works. And
so you do it each individually, so nobody's influencing the other person or really
we have this app on our phone that we log all the answers in.
It's called a draft labs. Uh huh. So that's that's fantastic and so
that way nobody I'm not sitting there in somebody system me. Yeah, you
know that kind of tasted like whatever you to all whatever you have? Do
you do you like? Do you think that your palette is really your best
tool? I think so? Yeah, And that is a great training tool
to keep it like on point doing it every day. Yeah. So yeah.
Pallet's great too because you can try other beers from around and be like,
oh, I like how this influences this and use it in your own.
They should do a beer show like they do What the Hell's Kitchen with
Gordon Ramsey, it'd be great. Yeah, it would be interesting to see
that whole process. Well, so, I guess my question is, you
know, if you if there's certain beers that you don't like, do you
have to run them by other people to see if they would still work?
You know, it's because you might have a certain taste and you drink to
me, I don't know if I like this, and you run to like
five other people like, oh no, this is great. You know,
like, how do you how there checks and balances to what you know?
You guys figure out consensus what works or what would work. Yeah, there
definitely is. You know, for example, I typically don't care like half
amises ye, you know, my favorite, but that doesn't mean other obviously
other people like them, and you can recognize what a good one is still,
you know, and the quality of stuff. Um. But yeah,
there's a lot of different creative ideas that people have and bounce around with.
Everyone come up with do you do anything on your own at home? Still?
If you have the brewing equipment at home, I would assume still I
have most of it. Yeah, I make mead at home. Okay,
okay, here because in my small one bedroom apartment, it's a lot easier
to just worry about melting the honey and water together. Yeah right, honey
and water, right, Yeah, that's uh. They don't sell mead.
Have you tried to get John to sell any of your mead? I haven't.
No, Do you do that just for yourself? Ye? Really?
Yeah? Do small three gallon batches at home of that? Uh huh?
So do you hand it out of the holidays with your own label or anything?
I painted out? I haven't got a label yet, but I do
give it as a presence around the home. Yeh sure. I mean I
would think that that's a great idea. You let a condition for like six
months, So I make some batches in the summer and let him sit in
my basement for a couple of months. Uh huh, So, look at
this, that's fantastic. I think the tasting thing, and I think Danny
brought up a good point. Is there a like a tipping point in the
panel as to let's say, the one you came up with the finn Right,
two guys go now, I'm not so sure and the other people,
oh no, no, this nailed it. Is there a tipping point that
it has to come out like a five two minute almost as though it was
on trial, like you're in trial in some way justice Robbie has written his
decision. Yeah, you know, I feel most of the time we started
with a small batch, seven barrel. Yeah, and then h just kind
of see where it goes from there. If it's a success, it sells,
well, consider redoing it. Yeah. If it doesn't, then that's
kind of that. Do you have a favorite? And I would think that
anything that you make, it's got to be almost like your own child in
a way to something. Right, you love them all, but it's there
one that maybe one that you haven't even made yourself, but is heat or
at roarbock that you just absolutely love. I really enjoyed the Hell's Lagger you
do. That's one of my favorites. Okay, I like how crisp it
is. It's refreshing. Let's go try that next. Yeah, I think
I am too. Yeah, it's yeah, classic like well don lagger and
I feel a lot of breweries nowadays don't focus on that, focus on a
lot more fruited and ibas and stuff, which is great. But I like
a christ standard right. Yeah, So here here's the question. So you're
familiar with the Grateful Dead. Grateful Dead, they all wrote song, but
then when they bring the song to the band, everybody the band would collaborate
and say, what if we did this, what if we tried this?
What if we move this? Jerry Garcia said, if you're in love with
your own ideas, the Grateful Dead would kill you. When it comes to
beer, have you ever had your beers? What if we added this?
What if we tried this? And do people like collaborating and make the beer
beyond what your initial uh, your initial vision was? Or is it just
like your creation from start to finish. Most of the time I feel I'll
come to my boss with like an idea or other people, Well, we
have a sign up sheet in the brewery. Each person gets like a month
to pick an idea, so there is like workshopping. They come up with
your base idea, then your workshop what will actually end up in the recipe
and wat of mounts and stuff. So there's definitely like the Grateful Dead idea.
I'd say, so, are you a dead Fanum? I have a
friend right now went to Boston for the Dead. Oh yeah, yeah,
yeah, that's awesome. Yeah. I was born and raised my dad's a
huge dead heads. Okay, where are you here? From here? Okay,
because I grew up downstate near Woodstock. Okay, grateful dead because like
it was all you heard all the time, smell to the point where I
went, all right, I've had enough these songs that never end and blend
into another one Europe seventy two if I hear it again. But every once
in a while, I have to put it on just for Anastalia purpose.
They have a serious channel. They play one song every three days. I
think it's I think it's fantastic. I had no idea all the so the
work shopping, I think that's fantastic, you know, where you kind of
collaborating stuff. It seems like and I have no nothing to base this on
other than two maybe three conversations I've had with John or lab and what other
people have said behind his back about him, which has all been very positive.
Uh, what does he like to work for? It looks like that's
just a great open minded person who's really looking to just make the best possible
product. Yeah, it's a really good company boss, Yeah, super you
know, willing to hear your ideas out and yeah, you know the companies
a good good company. Yeah. Sure. So is there an endgame for
you? In other words, when I say that, is there a day
where you wouldn't mind having your own brewery or is that something that just seems
I don't know in my back burner. I'd love to have a brewery restaurant
combination way down the road. Yeah, no, no, no, I
understand everything I can. Yeah, that would be well. You seem like
I would assume you were a pretty young I like the shirt. It's the
Patti's Irichel, which is a robot brewing company beer. Ye. Yeah,
and uh I think that's fantastic, awesome, Yeah, I really go ahead,
don't do people come up do you and go you know what you'aw to
do? Do you get that a lot? Yes? Is that annoying?
It's not annoying. You know a more ideas, the better you know,
you know what you how to do it? Chicken French bear. You know
if you make if you I was sitting here all day, if you take
the honey, the honey bush and the red he you know what you could
make? Do people like do that? Like all the time when the Neopolitan
Scotch was on, there was a lot of mixing people. Has anybody have
you ever in your listened to somebody and said, you know what, maybe
they're right and tried it. I mean, I have some ideas in the
back of my head that I've heard from people. But I'm finally getting to
the point where I can start coming out with more recipes. So I guess
we'll see. Yeah, like that's chicken French is coming, Billy, I
grew up coming. I grew up at your Tacola County and down the road
from my hat, my house that I grew up in, there's there's wineries
all over, like it's like the finger Likes almost Stacola County. And this
one woman said when she inherited the winery from her parents, she would just
sit in the back campfire and she'd be mixing the wines that they made and
made other wines based out the wines. She'd be mixing well, right,
and they sell them and they do well. Yes, yeah, I mean
I think that it all comes down to just kind of pallet and play and
playing more or less, right, I mean trying. But you know,
whenever you make something, have you ever had a batch go bad? And
my homebrew? Yes, okay? And so do you have to throw it
out or what happens then? Or do you just go, wow, this
isn't as good as I wanted. And so it depends how bad it is.
Okay, all right? Yeah, I've had, you know, a
homebrew when I was starting out, and I've had some batches where just like
that, I've been like, this is fine, it's not what I anticipated.
And right I've had some where the bottles exploded in my closet. So
really, yeah, that was my first batch I made. Okay, it's
the Molotov cocktails. Wow. Yeah, So this is like a passion for
you and there it is. Yeah, that's great. I really enjoyed getting
to come in and do something I like. Yeah. Well, now the
brewers Fest, they Flower City Brewers Fest that comes up in late August.
Uh do you so obviously you'll be there. Will we see any of the
beers that you picked? Will we see the finn up there? Potentially?
Potentially? Potentially? Yeah, should be done in about two weeks. And
so the finnhead isn't even out yet. Oh yeah, just brooded on Friday.
It's fermenting in the tank right now. Wow. I haven't even tasted
it yet. Okay, how excited are you for this? I'm very excited.
I gotta think, Man, that's pretty cool. I'm very excited.
That's really cool. And you went through the tasting panel. They all loved
it when he did like a or has anybody tasted No one's tasted it yet,
but they agreed that the recipe sounded works, trying, looked good,
and yeah, theoretically should taste really good, so we'll see. Wow.
So if you guys used analytics or AI to kind of like help like further
the beer making process at all, I don't believe so, not that I'm
aware of. Yeah, we use a lot of the data we collect from
the draft labs and other parts of the company and compound all that, but
I don't think we've incorporated AI at all. Okay, Wow, Well,
Robbie has been a pleasure. I think I had no idea that there was.
I love the whole taste panel. I like the individuals. Nobody's influencing.
You put your answer in through the thing that's great. Is it one
of these though where you you taste it and then spit it out or do
you taste it and actually swallow swallow? Yeah? Okay? By the end
of the tasting panel, you've probably drank, but you know, like,
well, I appreciate it. I know you're on the on the clock,
so I don't want to keep you too long, but that that's really cool.
What what an awesome job? Right from making beer in your bait in
your bathtub, I guess basically right to to an actual job where you're getting
paid. That's pretty awesome. Awesome. We'll look yeah, man, and
we'll look for the finn coming soon. Yeah, about two weeks, all
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say, I shouldn't be in my recline or a whiskey type in up one
liners trying trying to get you bang. Yeah, how that country song goes.
I'm supposed to be hard, but I'm trying to gonna bear in my
hand as raised as up high, Danny Luke, Bat Bryan. Every country
song is based on one of five things. Okay, now you know what
beer you're trying to make it sound like it's simplified and it's stupid. Alex
dogs the wife wife. Uh, Friday night, which can all those yes,
and on fire? Yeah, and sometimes whiskey whiskey. Yeah, maybe
there's a boat or a truck everyone wholessness. Yeah, well we could say
we could combine beer and whiskey into a drinking Yeah, right, Scotch jail.
Here, it looks like they have a whiskey on the back of the
bar there and off it's theirs or not. But oh now we're gonna try
the one that Robbie the brewer told us about. Yeah, is this the
Hellis lagger? Hollis lagger? Yeah, I like call it hellis better than
Hell's. He called it Hell's Yes, he did. Like, I mean,
I immediately thought of like ac DC Hell's belt. Yeah. I don't
know what a hellis is. I think it's just no, I think it's
it's it's not heys that would be Spanish, it's hell That's okay, we
don't know either. Yeah. Uh. Fourth of July weekend uh or fourth
of July coming up, the big holiday weekend, right, A lot of
people are gonna be off until Tuesday. So it's Americana billy. Yes,
I call it Thanksgiving, like you know in the summer, Thanksgiving. Love
it because you eat. Yes, right, you're outside. It's just you're
outside. You're not inside in the house right watching football. You're outside and
enjoy in life. That's what it's all about. Yeah, all kay,
talk right into that, right into my home. On, come on,
come on. It's basically just a traditional logger, like a German pale logger.
Yeah, okay, what is your favorite? The Space Kitty without a
doubt, without a doubt. And I know that's why I got hired here
because I did this whole presentation about why I love Space Kitty. You did,
wait, sit down, just a moment, just a moment, please,
Space Kitty. What you're name again, Ronda? All right, so
Rnda, wait a second. You came in here to work here, and
you gave them a pitch. Yeah, I talked about how much I loved
Space Kitty. That because I thought it was a joke that they brought me
in for an interview because I don't have any serving experience. But then all
I did was talk about space Kitty and how I love it. Okay,
so you had no serving experience. But you love Space Kitty, so you
applied for a job. Yep. Plus I love Kraft beer. Yeah,
you love Craft beer, and so there it is. Now, how is
the beer mosa because that's something that's here with Space Kitty? Right, Oh,
so Space Kitty is a DipPA so it's just in a whole different class
of it. Oh it is. I thought they did a Space Kitty beer
mosa as well. No oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah that's as well. Okay, you would think that it wouldn't balance
out, but yeah, delicious? What is it, rudy? It's like
such a same what's a dippable ipa double ipa? Wow? That's like two
India's away. Yeah, imagine trying to transport that stuff to Mars. Now,
how long have you worked to your run since? Oh so you just
got to your new new Wow? Wow? And I'm working hard? Can
you not tell? Yeah? But you well, I see hustling around and
stuff. I don't want to keep you from it. You're hustling around.
But you've been here since May third? All right, and are you part
of the beer panel that tastes some of the beers and things to should be
part of that. Should be a part of that. How do you do
you know, h Beer Supreme Court. How do you become part of the
beer club? You can just sign up? Why don't you sign up?
I should, I should get a discount. Well, I don't know about
that. I'm just saying to me. But we were hearing about when the
brewers come with ideas and things in that whole. I love the kind I
love the way that all works out. It is, it's really good.
Yeah, what's your idea for a beer? Do you have an idea in
the back of your head that you want to see him do? Uh,
they're doing it. I'd see. I'd like to see more Space Kitty go
out the door. Space Kitty's messed up many a hockey Dad and my kids.
Sunday Brunch is delicious to the coast ipa. They're New England IPA.
The Bathe and Light is delicious to all the Bathe and Light that just came
out. Yeah, yeah, that is really good New England style. Wow.
The bearer at the Blueberry pancake one that was really good to riddle cakes
that did you ever think did you be such a beer aficionado? And that
when I lived out in La. You lived in in La? What did
you do in La? I pursued acting out there? Okay, that's great.
Did you did you get in anything that we might have seen from commercial
to anything in pendant stuff? And then I moved back here? You were
in you look like the Sopranos your uncle Junior's nurse in season three or four
and like writing them out to the FBI. No, that wasn't you look
you used to watch that episode. No, I did watch that episode.
Yeah you do? Okay, Wow, do any other acting at all?
Just a lot of stage stuff out in La, you know, they really
anything but anything locally. She's actingly. She's having a good time here right
now? No, she ye, Well there's to give you a lot of
there's you know, a lot of different theaters. Yeah, you're from here,
and I got to get your I know, but real quick. You're
from here originally? Yeah? Okay? Did where did you grow up in
the city and Leroy from the Bronx and then I grew up in Leroy place
of Jello. Yes, it is all right, Jello. Thank you,
thank you for allowing us to interrupt your Thank you your flow there very cool.
Yeah, I mean you gotta come down here and check it out.
And one of the things I love is that entrepreneurial spirit it and it's one
of those you know you can't, Hey, let's just go do this,
you know, the let's do it. And I think a lot of times
the best people are the people that don't see the roadblocks. Right, you
know what I mean, a little bit of what do we call it naivete?
Right? Being a little naive sometimes can go a long way because you
go, why can't we do that? That's what I mean. Yeah,
I'm gonna be so happy in a year and a half when that chicken French
beer comes out and they're like, somebody just gave us this idea. And
buddy, if they if that chicken French idea comes out, you know you're
alive long enough to see it. Oh stop, if they I'm joking,
Wow, I know what dark fast the hell I'm joking? Um, No,
you're not Danny. I'm gonna act like I'm Danny's friend here for the
n so, but here here's the like running the U. I think that's
a great idea. And if they don't do it, I'm sure one of
the sixty five breweries that it's gonna be at the Flower City broof hosted by
Roharbock Brewing Company. They may take it. Yeah, we should have Kevin
do an elevator pitch to every single brewery. Abou Kevin, could you do
an elevator like a two minute pitch. You gotta put it together. You
may want to go into chat GPT to just get a little bit of an
idea. Yeah, once I'm done with what was it, honey No?
What was the one we had the other night that argues to my wife?
Oh, the honeybot. Honeybot, something like honeybony harmony bunny bot. I'm
moving on to the chicken harmony bob was something that was going to can prevent
you from fighting with your wife ai, AI that would help you smooth that
arguments and stuff. We came up with that idea, great idea, harmony
bot. I think we put it into chat GPT and it spit it back
out. I'm Dannia. I just repeat what your wife says over and over
again. You'll be fine. Really yeah, oh yeah out the first time,
Danny, it didn't. That's how I learned it. I wrote a
book called Just Listen to me this time. Really all right, let's fill
in the blank marriage edition. Let's play fill in the blank marriage edition.
Crat. I walked into a If I buy one more blank, my wife
is going to kill me. Hat Look at that. Do you have an
answer by buy one more blank? My wife is going to kill me piece
of hockey cook probably piece of hockey equipment. Now, when I was married,
I don't think I had an answer to that. If I bought one
more I don't know. I didn't buy a lot of well, I had
a hole in the wall. There you go, there you go. If
my wife leaves out there blank for everyone to see one more time, I'm
going to leave them. If my wife leaves out their blank one more time
for everyone to sie, leaves out her dishes. Okay, like you know,
like Bill Burr's got that big bit, or there's two people in a
house. One does the dishes and one lets them soak. Yeah, I
mean they let somebody else come by. Oh I was gonna do that.
I stow you a one. You're gonna let him soak. Right, That's
what my wife does. She lets the dishes soak. It's the same thing
for me, dishes, I'll empty I'll clean the entire sink, and I'll
go walk upstairs trementut to come back and there's three Yeah, put it in
the damn dishwasher. Put it in the dishwasher. Uh, my husband,
or let me let me rephrase it. My wife loves to play with my
blank when I'm not home. My wife loves to play with my blank when
I'm not home. Is there anything like a guitar or anything like that for
you, Danny neighbor? Hopefully the answer to that is no. No.
I don't think my wife. No, I don't think she does not you're
well, hang on a second, not you're inversion board? Or what is
that? Not a version table table? She doesn't know anything. Probably my
kids could I ignore them? Okay, all right. The first thing my
wife says to me when I walk in the door is blank. Hi,
honey, Okay, what the fuck did you buy now that? Well?
Is that what you say to your wife? What does she say to you
when you watch the same thing? Oh? Really? Do you buy a
lot of stuff now? But it's the best I can come up with.
Um. I think when I was married, I think when I would walk
in my wife is to me, when when I walked in the door.
You wouldn't believe what just happened to gather. It was like a frat house
all the three am again hobbill, Oh oh wow, that is great.
Uh. The other night I caught my wife blank while I was asleep.
The other night, I caught my wife blank while I was asleep storing.
Okay, big time playing with the neighbor. I don't remember. I don't.
I snores a lot. Well, that could be a tough thing,
then did she? Now have you talked about how that stuffed I I was
in a relationship prior to being married. By the way, if if you
sleep on your back, you're gonna be snoring. I don't care who you
are, I don't care how healthy you are. And she has a tendency
to sleep out her back, so you're gonna snore. It's just the way
it is. Dan talked to her about it. She just told me to
shut up and go away. Yeah, I said, woman, you're going
to stop snoring. And the next thing I remember, I woke up on
the floor. Now I remember, like, uh, somebody would get up
and leave the bedroom because this sorring would be so bad. Yeah, And
I have actually that was the dog I was. Actually uh, I found
out I was better off when I put in, like, I have this
mouthguard now that I wear, and it pushes out my lower jaw just a
little bit and it prevents it. No, ok I know it's from uh
here in Rochester at Eastmandental. Okay, I did this, and it's just
it's a mouthguard. They had invented it there and it just pushes your lower
jaw out a little bit, so it's almost like you would have an underbike
and it allows And by the way, I do love ya rockets. Didn't
that hurt your herb too? For a minute, I think Kevin that whatever
was on my lip and I don't know, and I'm not dog, I'm
not. I'm not gonna say, but it did burn. I didn't burn
it. The next morning I poked it with there's like a stud that comes
out of the thing, and it cut into my lip. I was getting
the pus out of the herb. Maybe puss out of the herb. No,
my mouthguard has herpes. I hope not. It's actually soaking right now.
I don't want so. Maybe somebody will come along and clean it later
like your dishes. Monday's Tuesdays. I brush we're live and the Roback Beer
Hall. You got to come down here, ninety seven railroad streets, the
entire area. I love that. I love seeing and I love talking to
John Arlow where he says it's other entrepreneurs that are coming in here and have
a passion for something and want to make it work. And he goes,
look, we had trouble paying our bills in the beginning. They're having trouble
paying their bills. But you know, over time and more and more people
start to see it. Come down here. We all talk, and I
feel like sometimes there's a lot of talk support local, Support local. We
do it around the holidays and things I would say to you, explore where
do you live, Wherever you live, whatever that is, whether it be
a suburb or the city or the greater area, there's a lot of rich
culture, at least where we live. And I would think in most cities
that people are maybe listening. Wherever you are, go and support local,
go find out about it. How about the tables that we're looking at here
are made from the beams that they took out to fit the brewing materials in
here, right and all that I mean to me that stuff is two.
I find that fascinating. I really do. And I've even in my mind
going, we need a documentary on Roarbock Brewing Company being the original, you
know, craft brewery of this region and how they do things. I love
that idea of the concept of you know, signing up and it's my month
to pitch, and I just I find that really really cool, and it
gives everybody a chance to be heard. And I think that, you know,
if you're running something, everybody wants to be heard, right man,
that's the big thing in everybody wants to be heard. Uh, we don't
still want to hear kevio Chi. I am telling you right now, son
of a bitch, it's going to be a hit nine hit. If it's
not here, it'll be so other brewery that's supported by John Rlav as well,
and they're gonna do it. Here's what I want like that, Like
I told Billy during the break and he says, it's almost impossible. I
think I've heard this before. It's almost impossible if you can come up with
some type of gatorade beer or some protein based Gatorade beer where you can lose
weight and impossible and like you know, hathempic palal opic. A lot of
people get like, uh like gird and oh yeah, kidney failure and stuff
and uh nausea and all this. You really market this beer. Well,
but I'll tell you what, man, some of those people are losing weight,
looking good and a decrease in seamen. That's right. Well, hey
man, let's say doesn't matter. My loads are lighter. By the way,
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gonna drink in Rowbok in the beer hall. We are here at ninety seven
Railroad Street in downtown Rochester, and I would like to encourage everybody on August
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some of the best beer in the world that comes right from the greater Rochester
area. That's what you want. Uh, Dakota works here, Dakota,
how long have you worked here? Hey? How's it going? Not too
bad? About a month and a half so far? A month and a
half getting a new Bee seniority. Randa has seniority on me. She's your
boss, the newest one here. Now you're the newest one here. What
made you want to work at roback? Well, so I just needed a
job. No, I don't like drink. I'm working on my master's degree
outside of here. So where to lean right into that microphone to getting a
little bit Roberts Wesley and Universe. Okay, so my son is a going
to be a senior Robert Weston. He's on the track team over there.
Awesome. Yeah, he's a thrower and does a shot and discus, javelin
and hammer. Disappointment. I read a distance in high school. Oh he
did it? Was always jealous of the throwers. Yeah, chance, yeah
it. Jordan's into, like, I don't know, lifting a lot of
stuff. That's about it picks things up, that picks them up and put
them down. What is your master's gonna be in? It's gonna be in
school psychology, school psychology. I think you could do a lot of work
here at a beer hall. Yeah absolutely. I had a lot of options
for stuff to do over the summer. But I love beer and I love
it. It's a great way to spend this on. I love this.
This is a good idea. Now, where do you live? I live
off of Park Average. Okay, and where are you from? Originally?
I'm originally from a place called Wellesville, New York. I don't know if
you guys have ever heard. Yes, near Buffalo so no, it's about
an hour and a half. But Jamestown, Shamestown, Universe, Cataraugus.
No, right near the Greg Connor statue. Oh okay, yeah, okay,
all right, very good. And uh so where did you go to
high school? Then to high school? Wellsville High School? And you were
a distance running there? Are they class C? They are? Yes,
I believe class Yeah. Well, I grew up in a very small schools
Class C. I don't know if and I think they go smaller, don't
they? Yes, they go class D. They they don't get that.
This is if you If you're blow class dude, they just you know,
qualify you as an amarg school. YEP, I wanted a fat guy wrestler
of the piece Jack Garner. Kevin. By the way, Kevin, that
was a great call. I would have never ever thought that the loaded potato
skin pizza almost sounded too heavy to me. It is phenomenal. Yeah,
crocl Is healthy. Yeah. I know. I've been watching Seinfeld from the
beginning, but it's taking me forever because I just don't have the time to
sit down and watch. And last night I caught the end of the Kenny
Rogers Roasters. They put it in across the street and it's bugging Cramer,
and then Kramer is supposedly he's against Kenny Rogers, but he can't sleep,
so he moves into Jerry's apartment, and Jerry goes over to his apartment,
and then all of a sudden he finds out that Newman is secretly supplying Kenny
Rogers Roaster's chicken to Kramer, and then he goes in. He goes,
what is this. It's broccoli And he goes, I know you don't need
broccoli, Newman, and he goes, yes, I do. I do.
He goes, put it in your mouth, and Newman puts in his
mouth. He's special. I can't do it. He's spinning it out.
I don't know. I didn't find the show very funny. All right,
So, as a young guy who likes beer, you're here. Have you
got a full tour of the place. Have you tried every brew available?
Yes? You have. So the first thing I did was take a big
tour of the Yeah, a main brewer, Joel, He gave us a
tour, gave me a pretty big rundown of how everything works back there.
And then naturally I've got to try everything on top every things that I did.
Yeah, yeah, all right? And uh and you like working here,
Yeah, absolutely, it's a blast. I get to I get to
hand people beer and talk about it. Yeah, it's better than that,
right, and so and so you need to try all the beer so you
know exactly what what's what exactly? I gotta be able to talk to it
now without and I don't want to put you on the spot, but I'm
gonna put you on the spot. Is there a favorite for you? Oh?
Absolutely, Okay, there's there's a favorite, but it's it's a hit
or miss, like whether or not I'm in the mood for it. Okay,
So space kitty, right, Yeah, that's what everybody says. Yeah.
Is it true that, like if you have three of more you can't
feel your face? True, it's true. My buddies actually called space gattos
because after space gattos what I don't know what. Gatto is a Spanish word
for cats. Oh yeah, okay, Yeah, apparently after I drank three
of them, I stopped speaking English. You're my buddy, my buddy,
dan Well. I was inducted into the Saint Jeff Fisher Athletics Hall of Fame.
Afterwards, he had some space kiddies to celebrate. We're at a bar,
he goes. I don't remember the ceremony. I don't remember what happened.
I don't even know if I got inducted in the Hall of Fame,
because those damn beers. There's a wow. There's a way that starts after
two or three. Yeah, here's the thing. You guys were talking about
marriage a little bit earlier. Yes, we were. You're not married.
You're too young. Do you have a girlfriend. I do have a girlfriend.
Why do you do that? How old you? May? I ask?
How old you are? Yeah? Absolutely, I'm twenty six, twenty
six. This is an old man. Yeah, okay, who has a
son who's a little bit younger than your dirty grandfather. Okay, that's fine,
that's fine, all right, this is fine. If go fund yourself,
Um, I would say that, uh just wait, yeah, wait
till you're you know, wait, I'm not saying that. This girl isn't
the one you ride it out. But I would wait, ye yourself,
established get a little money. Ye'll take half that check, stack your money,
stack your money and I something. See the thing is, I'm a
trophy boyfriend right now, Oh, trophy husband, I feel that you're a
trophy. That's my wife trophy. No, it's an also ran trophy.
All right, participated coda. First of all, the name Dakota. I
haven't met many people named Dakota. Where does that come from? So my
dad was in the ring Corps when I was born, got you overseas,
so my mom got free reigned to name me right. Uh. She came
up with Dakota because apparently she liked the states or the name of the states.
So yeah, that's what I got. I gotta tell you, it's
a it's a cool name. More South or North Dakota. I have been
asked that more time for Yeah, sure, yeah, I would go North
only because there's more telephone poems with people something. Did your dad get pissed
when he came home and you named him? Fucking what? No? I
think he. I think once he heard about the whole birth process, he
was like, yep, all you that's right. I think I had a
cousin who was born on Saint Patrick's Day. Yeah, so they named him
Sean, and my grandfather who was a Chalion because they Yeah, so this
is my grandfriendy we're gonna name Sean, but he was born in Saint Patrick's
Day and my grandfather was Italian. You might as well just name shit.
Well s Sean is usually Sean almost like John in uh in Ireland. But
either way, so yeah, yeah, I know. So here's Dakota,
twenty six years old. Got a girlfriend? Why do you call yourself the
trophy boyfriend? Makes a lot more money than I do? Oh okay,
all right, that's great. What does she do? She's a pa Is
assistant. Did she go to medical school here? She went to school in
Buffalo in Buffalo universe? Damien? Okay, and then how did you meet
her? I met her online? Actually, did you really? What app
hinge? Yep? Now I don't know about Hinge a little bit. I
don't know any of them really, but I've never been on. But what
what is hinge? So? Hinge is like I guess another version of like
Tinder would be a way describing it instead of like just pictures you actually write
like some stuff about it, kind of like my ch so who swiped laughter
or whatever you do on this site. First I sent her like a message
and she didn't respond for like three weeks. Three weeks yea, and then
all of a sudden, bing here it comes. She did decide to respond
to me, but she hit me. I said, how goes it to
her? Yeah? And she set back after three weeks amazing, after that
stellar one liner, So she decided to hit me hard right off the bat,
looking on me. Yeah, but uh, I remember when I got
the message. I was with the buddy, yeah, and I was telling
him, I'm like, this girl's being mean to me. Like, I'm
gonna send it right back. So I sent back something along lines of like
what do you expect out of this app? Is that really? Something like
what great one liner is? Yeah? Yeah, right, that doesn't even
sound mean to me. That sounds somewhat like what do you I think it's
a fair almost defensive thing. Yeah sure, yeah, so uh yeah,
we hit it off from there, went in a couple of days, and
now we're sitting on about two years. Two years and is there a plan
to get married? Oh? No, time soon? All right? You
want do you want to admit that advice now that you gave him about waiting,
because now he's got almost a doctor. Uh, you don't let a
doctor go No, I understand that. I mean, you know, hey,
look, I don't know her. She could be lovely, she could
be a complete pain in the morning. I have no idea. I just
say, you know, that's just up to him. That's that part is
none of my business. I want it on the record. I think she's
lovely. All right, very good. You're a smart man. You're a
smart man. So what do you want to do with your psychiatry degree?
Education? Yep, so I want to work in a school district. Okay,
um, I want to teach your schedule, but ideally want to make
a little bit more than a teacher, right. I definitely love the psychology
field. I think there's a lot of opportunity to help out a lot of
kiddos that are struggling. You got it, Yeah, I think so.
I think that that's a noble thing to do. Yeah. Uh, would
you be able to go on vacation device free mister psychology? Yeah, now,
now you could because you got your girlfriend with you. Yeah, if
your girlfriend, if you were still kind of searching, or it was early
in the dating thing. It'd be hard to be away from the device because
that's the only communication you got. I don't know I spent I was in
the Marine Corps for six years. Fight were yep. So I went on
a deployment over to Japan and South Korea. Yeah, and for a lot
of our training exercises, the phone had to disappear. Yeah, and I
actually honestly enjoyed that time away. Ar I think a lot of people would
the Marines toughest. Some people would say the toughest branch. And I don't
need to in any way look down on any branch of our military service.
I think that all of them actually were coming up on the fourth of July
weekend, and we're going this will air on a Thursday before the fourth of
July weekend. Pretty much that is. I just look at that as as
pretty amazing. What made you want to join the Marine Corps? I was
in undergrad and I in undergrad. You were already in college. Ye.
This wasn't at a high school decision. No. I kind of wanted to
go out of high school, but my dad was in so they kind of
told me that I needed to go to college first. Your dad was in
So does that make you an officer then in the Marines? Negative? So
negative. You have to get a bachelor's degree to go in as an officer,
and there are routes where you can go so you can start programs while
you're doing your bachelor's degree. Yeah, and then when you finished with your
bachelor's degree, you'll go the officer route. So you did undergrad and then
the Marines. Yep, so I finished your undergrad undergrad, I found a
program where I could join the reserves as a listed Marine and go to boot
camp one summer and then the next summer go to infantry training. Yeah,
and then be in the reserves from that point on. Tell me about boot
camp in the summer. Terry's Island is the worst place on the planet and
I will never set foot there again. Really. Yeah, absolutely, But
I mean some of the things that you probably learned, what can you give
us the hardest thing you had to endure while there? I watched a kid
like slap a bug, right, So of course the drill instructors came out
and we're all mad that he slapped the bugs, so they made him have
a funeral for the bug and because the bugs on Paris Island have been there
longer and they rate more than a recruit does. Wow, that's a that's
a tough day, but it was a lot of fun. Yeah. But
how about I mean in terms of like just the what would be a typical
day for you in wall in boot camp? What time did you start?
So boot camp starts at zero four, so four o'clock in the morning,
yep, and you go through going through getting chow. So that's like,
well you wake up till lights lights, lights, and someone yelling REVELI and
then just getting dressed in and of itself as a whole process of I don't
know, can I swear on this? Yes? They call them fuck fuck
games. So it's a combination of like put a sock on up too slow,
take a sock off, put the sock back on, or put another
sock on, and it's just constant chaos from there. So they're watching you
and telling you. So it's each individual marine in your barrack, have somebody
who's standing over them yelling at them. Picture about ninety guys online, yeah,
and then about anywhere from like two to five year ol instructors just up
and down the line. Crazy. Yeah. I have you guys seen videos
of it or anything like that, I don't know. I like the movie
Full Metal Jacket, Yeah sure, yeah, it's basically Full Metal Jacket,
but it's hard to picture when you're there, like it's happening NonStop all day
long, three months straight. Was there at any point you thought to yourself,
why did I do this? Oh? Absolutely there was. Yeah.
Do you believe that anything in life here from here on? Well, you'll
go, I absolutely can handle anything now, having gone through the Marines.
Absolutely, I think. I think I gave me such a solid foundation.
Sure, it made me the person that I am now. So yeah,
when you say the person that you are now, what has changed in your
life? Are you more? And I see? Discipline to me is just
putting whatever you want most first, So you're doing all the things for that.
But some other people would say it would be more of having a routine.
I wake up at a certain time, I forgot it. I'm very
regimented in my stuff. I don't know where that falls for you. The
definitely the discipline with like the regimeat regiment is a good thing to have around
and I think that's helped me out a lot, but more of the discipline
and the long term goals is what I think I got out of it.
There's a form of therapy out there that I learned and graduate school called accept
acceptance, and commitment therapy, okay, and it's basically ignoring like little things
that don't really lead to much and focusing on your goal. Right, So
understanding things that happen to you, but still not letting them drive you away
from your future long term goals, right. And I think the Marine Corps
really did a good job of helping me look at the larger picture of things
in time. Would you recommend that it's a good thing for people. Yeah,
I think that anyone who joins the Marine Corps, and I feel like
a lot of people know if they hid in them and they're able to go
through that, I think it's an excellent It's unbelievable. So you did,
I would. When did you join in college as almost a I was a
sophomore college sophomore? So you did three years there and then three years active
duty after that? Nope? So I did one a year and a half
active right after. So I did. My first three years were in the
reserves from that while I was in college, and then once I finished college,
I missed my own college graduation to go for the pre workup stuff,
and then we went and spent a year and a half over in Japan and
South Korea. And then when I came back from that, I went back
in reserves, and then that's where I am now working on my stills of
reserves. I just check out of the reserves just a month ago. All
right. Well, hey, congratulations and thank you for doing that. Over
there in the Japan South Korea area, I had been married and my brother
in law was in charge of the Pacific room at one point. Wow,
there's a lot of activity that goes on a lot of things we don't know
about over here, and I don't know that we need to know about as
citizens. But the little weebl as my family had called him, the Kim
Jong un, would fire off things quite a bit. Yeah, yeah,
definitely, it's over in the Pacific. It's a definitely a difficult situation.
I'm happy that we have such a strong presence over there, allies and stuff,
because it's definitely good to have that. Yeah, security over there.
Right, Uh, Well, I think this is fascinating. I had no
idea that you know, we would uncover all this stuff about you, Dakota,
your your your trophy boyfriend. Ye us marine, You're a marine for
life. You know you go through that absolute and uh, you miss any
of that stuff? Do you miss the Marines at all? A little bit?
I mean there's I do wonder that. I know. It sounds really
tough. Getting up at four o'clock in the morning and went in boot camp
does not sound like fun. But I definitely miss it a lot, and
at a spot where I'm like, I have two years to figure out if
I'm gonna stick with it or if I'm gonna I could always go back to
it in the next two years. Yeah. How does your girlfriend to feel
about that? Uh, it's she's supportive in it, which is great to
let me know, or like she's supportive and whatever. I think for now,
it's good to take some time away from it. Agree. I agree,
that's your mind clear a little bit. Part of the reason why I'm
here though, it's be busy during the summer in school. So now,
as as a marine, did you get to go in taste different beers when
you were overseas? Yeah? Absolutely, over in Japan. Yeah, Japanese
beers are pretty interesting and good. Yeah, it was awesome. There was
orient over there in the Korea to have saki, right yeah. Um,
it's a little bit stronger than beer, so yeah, ever goes over there.
I guess I always thought saki was more of a sing no from Grease.
I don't know why I put it with Grease. Japan, you sowed
you, not saki, Okay. Saki is like a rice wine. Yeah,
tastes like beer, yes, um, maybe like a water down beer,
but it does stronger. Yeah, okay, he's the stuff they squirt
at you when you go to hibachi. Yes, yeah that is wow.
Wow, this is you're you're lucky that or they're lucky to have you.
I would today. Thanks. Yeah, yeah, this is a pretty cool.
Why did you choose Roberts Wesleyan for your masters? Um my undergrad at
Geneseo, I decided to go to Roberts because they had a school psychology program.
Um, it was really between that or ri I t but Roberts Wesleyan
is am I guess it's a yellow ribbon schools what it's called, meaning they
work well with veterans and stuff, and I do I wanted to use the
JI bill for my graduate school. Good. Oh, well, I'm glad
and I think that that that's awesome. It's koda, it's nice to meet
you. Oppressive. You're an impressive young guy. Hey, thanks a ton.
Guys A right, So Danny is a very religious guy, and I
just throw that not very religious. I don't want to say that that's an
I feel like it's an overstatement. You are a conscientious religious man. I
know when I say over religious, it would be like you're always thumping in
people's faces and you're not. You're You're polite, You're respectful to people.
Christian, yes, and I like that. I like your your style.
I like your style of we're very tolerant of people. But I did read
this online that somebody who lives in Pittsburgh wrote about religious people who knocked on
his door. To the two religious people witnesses that just rang my doorbell to
ask if we would like to join them for church, you handled my smirk,
my five second pause, an invitation to step in like champs. You
held composure for a second until I said what do you think and backed out
with class blessing blessing me on the way out was respectable. Seriously, y'all
held your own I respected. I don't know why that stood out to me,
but I thought to be somebody who goes and knocks on the stranger's door.
It's a lot of guts, you know. You know, most people
are going to either laugh in your face, slam the door, tell you
to get out, maybe say something potentially rude or maybe just very polite.
But either way, but and then you're gonna get people who kind of screw
with you a little bit. You've got to be a strong person to be
able to handle that. Oh, I mean beyond just the religion, and
you've got to have a fervent belief on what you're doing. Yeah. Absolutely,
I think that's kind of cool. My parents used to walk on door,
knock on doors. Your parents did, Yeah, not a lot,
just what a couple times though, Yeah, they were just hey, just
we just want to bte you at church and they give you a free video
about Jesus. Yeah, and here's our church you want to come by.
That's it. I actually went to a church, pretty cool thing. I
went to a church in Fairport. Right. They fell out the guest cart,
so I felt the guest card. Next thing, I know, I
got people bringing me like cookies and stuff. It was fantastic. My roommate
goes bro, where's that church? I want to go get some I want
to get some cookies. They were. That was great. They were.
They brought a card and everything. Kevin's like, hey man, shut me
up, Kevin, they bring your chicken French. I'm good. We're here
at the beer hall on a ninety seven railroad street. And Kevin saw what
was it calling him the loaded baked potato or loaded potato pizza. I just
want to say, that's good. I know I was gonna say no to
this, so I thought, yeah, it seems heavy. That may be
the best thin crossed wood fired pizza that I've had at a beer hall.
Ever, it's great, you know what I mean. Like I came here
for the beer. That's why you would come to Roarbock. And the food
is fantastic. And Kevin made a great choice. He did great. Jo.
I always trust the chubby guy. Well, I don't know about that,
but because sometimes chubby guys just eat anything, you know what I'm saying.
It's like a whale in the ocean. They just kind of open their
meth and go. I'm teasing. I took care of a submersible assumat.
Oh god, what did I see? I saw some. I mean,
there have been more awful themes, and I all, there's a piece of
me that there's somewhat tasteless, you know. And you got the all the
sad, sappy stories about the kid who didn't really want to go with his
dad. And then I'm seeing things like, you know, Kobe Bryant and
his daughter. Hey, when you when you when you travel with dad kind
of thing. It's like, come on, folks, come on. It's
like, give me a fff and break. But I still go back to
I don't know what was gonna come from going down to the Titanic. I
will tell you this, in my opinion, I don't believe these guys were
leaving the Titanic wreckage alone. I think they were looking for gold and they
were looking for stuff. I really do. I don't think they were going
down to just observe it. I think there there's no way you had but
that there's nothing to support that other than just me going. I'm a dude,
I know, and I love adventurous type stuff. I think I could
be easily have talked into getting into that thing. Let me ask you this
question, because the kid was very steadfast about not wanting to go. Yeah,
if it was you and your dad and you're like, Dad, I
don't want to go, and your dad calls you a pussy and you don't
go, and that happens, Yeah, what are you doing? Are you
doing a little irish Jake? Are you I'm feeling really bad? Yeah,
and I'm feeling bad that I think there would be um. I would say
some kind of remorse, as though I didn't go and I let him die
alone. Does that sound weird? I got? Do you understand what I'm
saying? He wanted to go. I could have fixed us. I could
have saved him. Not that I could have saved him. I would have
died too, but we would have died together. He would have died.
Final moments would have been there. I could he could have turned to me
and said I love him and he loved me. I don't even know.
I don't even know if these guys knew what was happening. We have no
I don't know. But yeah, so I think I would have some kind
of remorse. I really do, But you know, or maybe think maybe
I maybe maybe there would also be this thought there's a purpose for me to
be here, and I don't know what that is. I'm not sure.
I don't know. Uh. Well, I hope everybody has a wonderful Fourth
of July weekend. It's my favorite holiday. But I got a class reunion
this weekend. Yeah, twenty five years back up in US Silver Creek.
Yep. Wow, he's the only one coming with a full set of team
happen. Just gonna fucking say something very similar to that, Kevin. I
was gonna say, how do you have a full set of teeth? How
bad? Kevin does have a gap? I played hockey? U what is
it? What do you think? Did have you seen? Have you kept
in contact with anybody? Yes? Yeah, some of them? Yeah,
some of them? Yeah yeah. But you know what's funny, like at
twenty union. At the twentieth reunion, we picked up as if the nineties
never stopped. Okay, it was like it was like we picked up right
where we left. Did anybody put on a lot of weight? And he
chicks, No, I actually lost weight before that. I've actually put on
like more weight since then. But nobody, nobody really looked bad or anything
like that. There were a couple of people I didn't recognize because they had
beards or whatever. Okay, but for the most part, did you guys
find Katie Lang? Yeah, no, Katie Lang wouldn't come. It's all
because of you guys who are asking. No, I just know. I
just he's one of these guys who was like, no, I'm not gonna
He's just I'm too cool to do this. It's too bad. And in
a small town, it's fun to see wherever. How many people have stayed
anybody stay in that town? Um, not too many. But at the
same time, they didn't go very far. How many of them? None
of them sell cigarettes at the reservation anymore. Most of them like live like
they decided. There's like a joke about Silver Creek. Silver Creeks a village,
for Donia is a bigger village. So the joke is, oh,
you went from the little village of the big village. Some of those people
moved to Fredonia. Some people moved to Dunker some people moved to Buffalo.
Okay, you know, but it was most people didn't move too far away.
There's a lot of them. They live in the dream. Yeah,
I get out of the out of Yeah, I got out of the county,
but get out of the county. All right, we will close it
out. I hope every everyone has a good and safe Fourth of July weekend.
We'll have podcasts that are fresh and new all next week. And I
would say, if you have people coming to town, bring them here to
Rochester's original craft brewery, roar Bock Brewing Companies Beer Hall, ninety seven Railroad
Street in Rochester. Get the potatoes, the load of Potatoeskin Pizza. Absolutely
have a Hellis Lagger and IPA. Let's get a space kiddie next. Absolutely,
all right, we'll see you California. Baby. Things that gotten worse
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