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Breaking down all the exes at all. It's Steve Rivera and Jagen Salvins.

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This is I on the Ball on
Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Hey, welcome

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back to one of the mall hero
Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Steve, He's

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Jays and now we have Kevin with
breaking Newsis I on the Ball Breaking news

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on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. All
right, so, as of yesterday,

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Arizona's women's basketball team is officially into
the Dance. They're not in a bracket

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yet, but they're in the first
four in right, right, Well,

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don't tell Ada that you said it
like that to her. They are in

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the tournament and she should be heard
her should be But I'm a fan,

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she said, she said, don't
call her a play in game. We're

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in the tournament, is what she
said. And she will kick your ass

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for saying that. Fine, like
she notices that stuff. She admitted it

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too. No, what a fantastic
story continues to be when this game wow,

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yeah, continue to get better?
Yeah? Go, you know,

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go win a game that counts as
far as anybody else is concerned. Right,

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So, no, it might be
one of the best stories across any

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sport in the nation. Right now. Yeah, yeah, you know they're

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gonna they're gonna go over there with
seven players and uh and take a shot

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at it. Right they got Auburn. Yeah, well she's actually contributed to

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the to the favorability, if that's
the right word for everyone saving money.

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Uh in athletics, she's only taking
eleven players. Yeah, exactly, travels

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Low. Yeah, you know,
congratulations to them, you know, to

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getting in. I mean they were
up against it the whole second half of

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the year, running out of running
out of players, and uh, you

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know, good for them that they're
in the tournament. So we'll be the

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will be the good Tucson fans and
say, you're in the n cub A

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tournament. You're not in the play. So the related news to that though,

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today transfer portal saw that Caitlin Gilbert
in the transfer portal, So okay,

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she's not with the team anyways at
the end, is in the officially

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in the transfer port Anybody, anybody
come out with any ideas as to where

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she might be going next. I
would assume that now she would be in

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the same situation, right, she's
gonna play if she's if she's gonna play,

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she said that she may not be
playing situation. Yeah, the Natesmith

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Trophy. Caleb Love was officially announced
as a semi finalist. There you go,

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joining a list of a bunch of
other star players from around the country

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like Dalton Connect his former teammate R. J. Davis. Which which award

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is just play next with? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, because he's in

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the top ten and Wooden you vote, I think I give you a vote.

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I think I have a vote because
he used to be the state rep.

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They just eliminated all that. Well, this is before you were a

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vote. That's right. I vote
for the Heisman and you don't. So

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there. Let them let him know, ja, let them exactly. I

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had to throw something out there,
right, he's making me look bad.

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You don't have a vote. Oh
I thought you had a vote, No,

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you don't. Who are you?
Speaking of college football. UFA's game

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versus Houston on November fifteenth is going
to be on a Friday this year.

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Yeah. When the schedule came out
that was a Friday or Saturday Friday,

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and then officially Friday soon right before. And also they've got a game.

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I think there's another game. There's
another game on the schedule that was also

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listened as a Thursday or Friday.
But there's one hasn't announce We got that

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announcement through Houston. Yeah. The
one that you're maybe you thinking of is

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the Kansas State game on the road. That's right, Yeah, that's right,

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that's the one where to go.
Nice pool pulled up. You did

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I cheated? Cheated? That's all
right, It didn't. Nobody knows that

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you're you're you know that you're cheating
over the over the Yeah, that's still

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listened as a Friday or Saturday game. Yeah. Leighton vander USh, the

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longtime Dallas Cowboys, officially retired due
to his persistent neck injuries after that nasty

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play from Trent Williams a couple of
years ago. Next, just man,

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you just don't want next problems on
you once you're going on again, it's

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only a matter man. Sports Illustrated
is going to be making somewhat of a

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comeback. We don't know in what
capacity exactly yet, but they have been

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purchased by a new a new group
that is going to be doing interviews with

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the current employees to see who's going
to be retained and who's gonna be like

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going, oh, I know it
is it's it's the same company that does

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Players Tribune and that encourage encourage.
But yeah, they're gonna but they say

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they're gonna be doing them the hard
copy magazine, on the shelf magazine.

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So that's a big deal. I'll
suspect you that I love, man,

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I love getting that magazine. I
couldn't wait for it. Couldn't wait for

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it. You get your little jacket
because you know, hey, okay,

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one year that when I renewed my
subscription, all right, one year they

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gave out a shaving kit. Right
when you were twelve? No no,

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no, no, no, no, no, I was. I was

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in the I was no, I
was traveling. In fact, I probably

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all the way back to when I
was covering sports, and it was a

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you know, a traveling kid.
Yeah, like a shaving kit. Right.

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I still use it. It's it's
the It's the best free gift I've

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gotten for any you know, subscription
or whatever that you you know, T

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shirts that you'd get or whatever.
I've had that for thirty some years and

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I love it. I still use
it. It was on the road with

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me this last this last weekend probably
needs to be cleaned out a little bit.

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I was gonna say you should probably
find the manufacturer and just get a

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new one. I love it's got
the it's got the SI logo on it

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and the whole bit. Man,
you can't okay, you can't get new

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one of those. Saint John's,
Oklahoma and Pittsburgh were among some of the

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teams to decline the invites to the
n i T tournament that's making its round.

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Yeah, did you see the rant
by the former Indiana coach uh Crean,

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Tom Crean, he really I agree
with him. Wouldn't you want to

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play in the tournament? I know
it's secondary and who cares, but so

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I just want to get more games. One of the reasons why Arizona plays

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in a not a festival, but
a second level ball Get more practices,

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right, you get a game,
the guys can play more. Obviously need

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the practice if you didn't get into
the NCAA tournament, right, and you

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get some sort of important I'm doing
air quotes experience that's different than just another

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regular season. But on the other
hand, yes, I was there doing

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stats when Arizona lost Bucknell at McHale
Center in the first round. Nobody in

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the building, nobody wanted to be
there no one want, including the including

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the Arizona game. Totally totally get
and that's one of the last times they

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played in the NIT the old season. Yeah, they no, I get

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it. I get it. So
it's it's hard, you know. I

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guess if you have a really young
team and you can sell it to him.

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Look, you know you can leave
you do this thing right, and

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you can leave this season with a
good taste in your mouth. You can,

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you know, give us something to
think about over the course of the

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you know, over the off season. But if you've got a bunch of

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you know, fift year guys and
stuff, I can say I don't want

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to play anymore because there's guys like
that. Oh yeah, there're guys like

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that who go to the NCAA tournament
and don't give a craft Arizona Arizona twenty

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eighteen. Yeah, no, no
question. I can see right now Patino

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saying, and I t let's get
the hell out of here and let me

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go back to the Italian restaurant,
right A friend, the deal. Let's

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move on from this. I have
a guessing game for you guys to play

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really quickly. Okay, what does
Caleb Love and Kim Kardashian have it now

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in common? Oh no, I
don't want to. I don't want to.

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I know an answer, Well,
what is Caleb Love Kim Kardashian have

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in common? That's a good one. I don't know. They both work

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for her company, Skims. He's
not one of the college basketball star like

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n I L influencer, So he's
making money off of her. He's making

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money off of her brands. The
men's line that's coming out there. They

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got a bunch of colors. But
with this story, well, I mean,

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she it's it's out there. I
mean they dropped the whole promotional video

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with him, Jared Caine and Donovan
Klingen, Hunter Dickinson and Robert Dillingham and

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Pat Paxson Wojic from UNC as well. He's now a big fashion guy.

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Good for him. Make make the
money while you can. And I saw

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I saw something on social media,
but no, Fafida is uh is doing

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for somebody Supercuts Supercuts? Yeah,
yeah, I saw that prostually a bunch

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of big brands in the ARIZONNL Hulu
with Boswell Boswell Supercuts with and now Kim

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Kardashian's very own Skims. Well,
you know, what for somebody who is

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otherwise not worth a crap. She's
done really well. She has no redeeming

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qualities other than the fact that she's
figured out how to make a lot of

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money. Okay, that's just met
even that, leaving that on the table,

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Kim sending the notes to him,
not to me. I got.

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I got an argument with it with
somebody who thought the Kardashians they're awesome.

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Great. He said, Okay,
tell me what they contribute to our society

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and she could She had no girl, Yeah, she had no answer.

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Well, they make money, I
said, okay, so everybody that makes

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money is great. So it was
a young girl apparently, No, No,

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it was a mom. It was
it was a school mom. It

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was the mom of you know some
kids that our kids went to school and

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no about how great Kim the Kardashians
are. And this I said, Okay,

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what are they doing for this country? What are they doing for society?

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What are they doing? Yeah?
No, no, but I mean

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what people out of jail? How
are they actually how are they making this

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world better? And she had no
answer. I mean for a long time

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probably, but you know, Paris, Hilton, all them that they just

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look you touched the nerves today.
You did set me off. Peest Jakovich's

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son Andre Sto Yakovich is in the
transfer portal from He played at Stanford Stafford.

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He was good, Yeah, he
was good. I remember he torched

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him the first he did. But
Steve, he's averaging seven points a game.

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Hey, if you don't feel comfortable
with Stanford, maybe you don't want

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to study. If you're if I
was gonna he must be it because I'm

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saying, if I'm his dad,
I'm saying you're gonna make more money coming

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out of with a degree from Stanford
than you're ever gonna make him basketball because

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you suck. I can I is
there a lightning data? Sat Away an

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NBA player, but not right now. Who knows he's gonna be an NBA

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player? Is Lebron who exactly now? His dad was an NBA guy.

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He maybe he's not gonna need the
money that he would need with a degree

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from Stanford, So he says his
dad's yeah, go ahead, go for

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somewhere else if you want to play
some more. But it's my kid,

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Dude, You're not leaving Stanford.
Dad, You're not the bust of me.

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Yes, I am I'm nineteen twenty
years old, all right, then

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paying me back for everything I supported
you with that, I don't even know

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who you are. Emancipated? Get
his number? How do you get his

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number? You still got more?
Yeah, one way. Chase Young just

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signed with the Saints. So he's
going from the Commanders to the Niners and

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now he's signing for thirteen million dollars
on a one year, fully guaranteed contract

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with the New Orleans say too much
with the Niners. I mean it was

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that big a deal. It's hard
to get going when you joined a team

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mid season, mid seas. Yeah, you didn't do a lot. Hard

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to get going a lot, that's
all so so okay, So the brackets

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are going to be done, you
know, and talk about our stop.

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So if you're a guy, just
a normal dude, and you don't watch

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college basketball but you're still kind of
interested, who would you pay attention to

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to help you fill out your bracket? Are there so so called experts out

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there? Well, there's people who
think they're Well my point is, what

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would you do if if there are, if you think there are, who

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would you go to? Would you
listen? I listened to a lot of

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people and I but but again,
I guess their information and then I use

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that information to decide what I'm going
to do. Because j Billis is picking

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somebody to win the tournament, I'm
not picking them because Jay Bill. But

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what I'm saying is, why did
Jay Billis pick these guys or why did

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jay Billis not pick these guys or
something like that. I'll filter that and

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I'll listen to it, and then
in the end, I'll put it all

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together, and then I'll put out
a bracket that sucks because that's what I

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do. Doesn't everyone though, actually
actually won a poll not that long ago,

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and there were like three hundred people
which which year was that. Oh

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God, I'd have to go back, and but it's probably I'd say probably

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three four years ago. It was
before I started doing this show, So

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at least three years ago, maybe
maybe more. Do we think that Colorado

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can get into the official bracket?
I think they can win. I picked

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them to beat the Oregon I thought, I thought, I okay, I've

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told you know. We were having
this conversation about kJ Simpson and I thought

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he absolutely did not deserve to be
Player of the Year over Caleb. And

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I still believe that. But he's
really good. He's really good. Well

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to be considered in the same breath
as Caleb, you must be. He's

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really good. And I've like Tristan
to Silva since last year. You know,

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he's really good. The two dudes
at Oregon who played really well,

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Curson and Dante, they had nice
games. Those guys are really good.

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I'll tell you who doesn't. I'll
tell you doesn't impress me. It's Cody

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Williams and guys like a considered like
a top ten mma And I'm like,

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I don't. Maybe he would start
for Arizona. But just the fact that

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I'm saying maybe he would start for
Arizona tells you. Why is he a

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lottery pick or not even a lottery
pick, a top ten pick. Somebody's

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got the number seven pick in the
draft. Well, to be fair,

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he's not the best player on their
team. You know someone In fact,

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I know who it is, Kevin
O'Connor from the Ringer. He had read

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Shepherd as that I'm going overall pick. Yes, So I don't know how

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much we can really, But the
thing is, Kevin, when when when

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you get your name on those people
think that of you, Whether you deserve

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to be thought of like that or
not. You talked about it months ago

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with the with the football recruiting.
It's like, what does it matter having

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a big class, Right, let's
go and no, we gotta get to

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Sean. But to go, what
about we are gonna put up a uh

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tournament bracket. We'll talk more about
it here in the rest of the show,

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but we were being asked on social
media. Yes, we are gonna

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have a bracket. Uh, you'll
the prize will be a dinner with Steve

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and I. Whether that makes you
want to fill out a bracket, but

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more than anything, we'll have fun
with it. It'll be that's first price.

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It'll first prizes. First prize is
Steve is dinner with Kevin. Anyways,

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we'll give it a first prize.
It will be an online bracket,

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so you don't have to fill out
of bracket and scan it and send it

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in. We're gonna set it up
tonight. We'll post it on our social

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media, so uh look for that. We'll talk about a little bit more

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later on in the show, but
in the meantime, we're gonna have Seawan

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Elliott coming on, rate John Alliy
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This is I on the Ball with
Steve Rivera and Jacinzalez on Fox Sports

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fourteenth fifty. Hey, welcome back
to on the Ball here Fox Sports fourteen

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fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. He's
Jacob Zaus. Now on the phone.

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We have your friend and our friend, Sean Elliott. There was another basketball

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All American and graduate. How you
do that's right, that's right. I

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hope you've got a good job with
that. You guys, I'm trying out

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there, looking man. Send your
resume to us. Well, we'll put

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it on our We'll put it on
our social media and see if you can

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get a job out of that.
So Sean, you know, uh,

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you know, the first time I
want to talk about it, not to

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start on the downer, but I'm
gonna start on the downer. You know,

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the end of the PAC twelve.
You know, we're both Steve and

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I were up in Vegas for the
tournament. A lot of sad faces around

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there, but a lot of people
talking about the history and stuff, you

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know, the PAC twelve. I
mean, it's it's gone under. I

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mean, what does that mean to
you somebody who was such a face not

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just of Arizona, but really of
the conference. Yeah, I mean I'm

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saddened by it, There's no question
about it. I'm I kind of like

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tradition, you know, as you
get older, you just kind of like

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tradition in the like classicism, and
I you know, I'm going to miss

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the rivalries. I'm gonna miss looking
forward to Arizona UCLA Arizona issue, just

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even the football games, Arizona issue. That's what I look forward to.

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I'm always hoping that I had the
day af during the season that I can

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watch the Arizona ASSU football game.
So I'm gonna I don't know what issue

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is doing. I don't know if
they're going or not. Ye are right

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now? Okay, yeah, right
now. I'm so confused as to who's

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where? I mean, but that's
everywhere, right, I mean. I

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was talking to a friend of mine
on the golf course the other day.

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I said, well, at least
I'm gonna get to see Arizona complay Texas

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and he's invited. He's like,
no Texas in the sec So they moved.

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So I'm like, well, I
mean, what do I have to

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look forward to? I don't know. I just kind of wish things would

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have remain the same. But at
the end of the day, it's all

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about the dollar and that Trump's everything. Right. No, well you got

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Houston? Are you got Baylor?
There? You I have to take a

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road trip to Waco, maybe go
to Lubbock, catch cat those love far

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right up the street? Don't you
have a private playing? Oh what else?

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What are you talking about? Man? That's for people like you.

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I love you, man, Hey, what are the secrets to winning the

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national title? And not that you
guys got far a couple of times,

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but you know, it got to
be healthy. It was always healthy.

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Lucky guard play all this stuff.
Oh, you have to get lucky.

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You have to be lucky, and
it's got to be the right timing.

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Yeah. I always feel like an
double a tournament not always the best team

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wins. Lots of times, you
know, you have a team that's just

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hitting a sweet spot or hitting a
hot streak, a little heater, and

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they're the team that ends up winning
the tournament. They're the national champions.

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That aba team, to me,
was the best team in the country.

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We were the best team. We
proved it. We beat everybody, We

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went to everybody's court, we beat
teams from every conference. We had a

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bad shooting night one night and that
was the end of our run eighty nine.

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I thought we had the team to
do it too. I'm not sure

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if we were the best team,
but I felt in my heart like we

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were just maybe because it was my
senior year and we get a fluky shot

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that beats us in Denver and we
end up losing. So you got to

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get lucky. Your timing has to
be right, and you have to be

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playing your best at the right time. And that's why I think it is

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what it takes. Yeah, you
know you just said it that you thought

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the eighty eight team was the best
team in the country that year, and

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I think a lot of people thought
that. So how do you square you

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know, what happened? You know, how do you think about that tournament?

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You know, at the end of
the day, are you you know,

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does it make you sad to think
about it? You're very proud of

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what you did? A little of
both. You were the first Arizona team

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to get to the final four.
When you think back to that season,

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how does it sit in your brain? It's a combination of boats. It's

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a little of both. Actually.
I mean I know that there are guys

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on that team that are still disappointed
that we didn't win all these years later.

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Yeah, I'm certainly proud of what
we did, but it kind of

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felt like it was unfinished business.
You know that November and December, Billy

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Packer said was the best in the
history of college basketball. Yeah, we

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came from nowhere to become number one, and we beat the number one team.

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We went to Iowa at number two
when we were number three and beat

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them. We beat Duke, could
beat Carolina, and so we were kind

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of we kind of had a different
mindset. I mean, we were going

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out every game to prove something,
to prove that we were the best,

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and we really felt like we were
the best. We just had a great

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combination of guys, and I think
when you look at our team, more

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than anything, it wasn't the talent, the combination, it was the family

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and the family atmosphere, the friendships
that that team fostered and still remain today,

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still remain today where we all still
have, you know, an affection

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and love for each other, and
we just you know, that carried over

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into the way we played on the
court, and we just really enjoyed each

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other's company. We we loved being
and hanging around each other, and we

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really felt like we were playing for
each other. And you know, I

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know that a lot of us still
feel, you know, just a little

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bit of disappointment in our hearts because
we felt like we should have gotten it

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done. I'm hoping you can answer
this question. Have you seen Caleb Love

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play one and two? A bunch
of sportswriters, including Matt Miilbach, you

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know, in your line of work, we're talking and said, I said,

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I don't think Loot would have been
comfortable with Caleb Love doing what he

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does all the shots, the distance
and the shots. So have you seen

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him shoot? Have you seen him
play? Yeah, okay, that's I

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happened. So I saw him when
Carolina went on that run a couple of

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years back, and then I this
year, I've only I'll be honest with

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you, see this year it's been
a weird year scheduling wise, where I

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haven't really gotten a chance to watch
them play very much because where they're playing,

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when they're playing or we're traveling,
why when they were playing. But

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yes, it takes you know,
it takes a lot of long three balls.

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Yeah, a lot of shots that
maybe coach and a frown upon.

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But he's he's a really good player
and he manages to get the job done.

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I mean he's the the fact told
Player of the Year, so he's

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doing something right. Yeah. I
think it's a it's a different game now,

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you know. It's uh. I
watch it at our level. I

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watch guys that are consistently looking to
shoot the three ball instead of taking the

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ball to the basket. I mean
I see the modern da NBA break in

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three on two. Both wings run
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basket, try to get a dunk
or a layup. So that's just the

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nature of it. I think that's
the way the game has evolved. And

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it doesn't mean it's evolved for the
better, but that's the way the game's

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evolved. Yeah. So yeah,
we'll go to that question real quick.

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You can ask question. Let me
let me ask you quick. Because you

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mentioned your name came up. He
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ever allow that to happen, I
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You maybe your sophomore year because he
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in ninety nine when he needed him
to do that and became college Player of

407
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the Year and then Bayless who who
he didn't coach him because Ko coached him

408
00:27:19.599 --> 00:27:22.640
when he was out. But you
know, sometimes you need to let guys

409
00:27:22.680 --> 00:27:26.960
do that because they need they need
them. Yeah, well, let me

410
00:27:27.000 --> 00:27:30.480
correct you onto one thing. I
would say my senior year because when I

411
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was a sophomore coach olsen. I
think I left practice three or four times

412
00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:40.599
that year, went to my dorm
in tears. He told me about that,

413
00:27:41.039 --> 00:27:45.559
told he was on my ass every
day every day. Yeah. I

414
00:27:45.640 --> 00:27:48.279
had to call Scott Thompson one day
and I said, coach him. What

415
00:27:48.359 --> 00:27:52.960
in the world's going on, and
he said, hey, it's only because

416
00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:56.279
Coach seems potential in you, and
he's that's why he's on you. He

417
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wants you to do everything right and
he wants you to be the best as

418
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you can be. He said,
you better start worrying when he does it,

419
00:28:02.559 --> 00:28:07.920
yell at you. Yeah, by
my senior year, I could take

420
00:28:07.960 --> 00:28:10.640
those shots if I wanted to.
Is a game, if you know,

421
00:28:10.799 --> 00:28:15.039
I could break off a play or
the offense if I wanted to, and

422
00:28:15.240 --> 00:28:18.079
Coach wasn't going to say anything.
I mean, look at a shot against

423
00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:22.519
Duke in the Meadowlands my senior year. That wasn't the play. I was

424
00:28:22.599 --> 00:28:23.880
bringing the ball to the court.
I saw Danny Ferry off me. I

425
00:28:23.880 --> 00:28:27.519
didn't have a particularly good shooting night, but I felt like in the moment,

426
00:28:27.599 --> 00:28:30.880
I could take that shot. So
I was allowed that leeway by the

427
00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:36.079
time I was a senior. And
so, yeah, he's had other players,

428
00:28:36.200 --> 00:28:44.440
Dodo Meyer, Damu's daughter, Khalid
Reeves. Who else are you mentionings

429
00:28:44.640 --> 00:28:51.160
Terry Jason Terry, Jason Terry,
maybe Miles Simon the way he played in

430
00:28:51.480 --> 00:28:53.839
his last year there too. So
yeah, but you have to earn that

431
00:28:55.079 --> 00:28:59.839
you'd have to earn that with coaching. If you show that you were smart,

432
00:29:00.200 --> 00:29:04.400
smart and you knew the situation and
you're consistently taking crazy shots, he

433
00:29:04.640 --> 00:29:07.119
would live with it. Yeah,
when you look at a guy like Caleb

434
00:29:07.160 --> 00:29:10.720
Love and I guess I'll ask it
this way, you know, that's what

435
00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:14.480
you have to be able to take
that shot and make that shot in the

436
00:29:14.640 --> 00:29:17.880
NBA anymore? Is Caleb Love and
NBA guard? You know you were in

437
00:29:17.960 --> 00:29:19.720
the NBA. I mean, I
know it's a different time, but do

438
00:29:19.799 --> 00:29:25.920
you see Caleb Love playing in the
NBA. Oh, he has the size

439
00:29:25.960 --> 00:29:29.720
and he has the ability, that's
for sure. I'm sure that somebody is

440
00:29:29.759 --> 00:29:33.119
going to draft him. Will not
be shocked to see him drafted in the

441
00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:37.519
first round. He's played for two
great programs obviously, in North Carolina and

442
00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:45.480
Arizona. He's been successful both places. So he's a talented young man and

443
00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:48.079
he knows how to play the game. I suspect when he gets in,

444
00:29:48.400 --> 00:29:56.119
you know, somebody would probably rain
that in a little bit where maybe show

445
00:29:56.240 --> 00:30:00.839
him or impose a little bit more
to discipline on the shop making, because

446
00:30:00.839 --> 00:30:03.160
he's going to be out there with
a lot of other really good players.

447
00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:07.599
When you make it to the NBA, it's a whole different level of basketball,

448
00:30:07.880 --> 00:30:11.839
and so he's got to be able
to play within the framework of the

449
00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:15.119
team. But I would say yes, I would say yeah. I mean,

450
00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:19.480
I would definitely say that Kata Love
is an NBA player. Okay,

451
00:30:19.960 --> 00:30:25.240
listen, Yeah, we'll just tell
us real quick and then we know we've

452
00:30:25.240 --> 00:30:29.400
got to let you talk about National
kidney months. But what do you think

453
00:30:29.440 --> 00:30:33.400
of this team? I mean not
predicting how far they'll go, just what

454
00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:36.960
do you like and maybe what do
you don't like about this team this year?

455
00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:40.880
I would have to rely on you
know, my my contacts there who

456
00:30:41.680 --> 00:30:45.720
keep me updated, and they say
that the team has the talent. They

457
00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:52.519
have the talent. It's just the
consistency that's That's the biggest thing that my

458
00:30:52.599 --> 00:30:59.279
guys worry about back at home.
I mean, if you can get some

459
00:30:59.559 --> 00:31:06.160
a little bit more on court leadership, they're talented enough to win the whole

460
00:31:06.240 --> 00:31:11.720
thing. They've got nice interior play, bottles really come along. Of course,

461
00:31:11.799 --> 00:31:18.559
you have the PAC twelve Player of
the Year right and bollow So you

462
00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:23.119
know, I've seen some spectacular plays
from I want to say it was Keishaw

463
00:31:23.319 --> 00:31:30.480
Johnson. Uh and so I you
know, it's just you just can never

464
00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:36.759
tell. And I'm always pull in
for my my guys from my Arizona team,

465
00:31:36.799 --> 00:31:40.720
no matter where they're standing out,
no matter how good they are,

466
00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:45.599
I just would love to see them
remain consistent. Uh. And you know

467
00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:48.519
I will tell you this. I'm
a huge fan of Tommy Lloyd's. I

468
00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:53.519
saw him last year with his team. I saw how he conducted the film

469
00:31:53.599 --> 00:31:57.200
session with him, I saw how
he was disciplined with him. I really

470
00:31:57.359 --> 00:32:00.319
enjoyed what he was doing as a
co So I think he's one of the

471
00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:05.000
better coaches in the country. And
if you have that kind of staff on

472
00:32:05.079 --> 00:32:07.000
the sidelines, you always have a
great chance. Just before the kidney thing,

473
00:32:07.079 --> 00:32:09.799
let me ask you selfishly, So, I got a couple quick stories

474
00:32:09.839 --> 00:32:14.160
for the book, and thank you
for doing the book. I'm sure you

475
00:32:14.279 --> 00:32:16.240
got one already or you were sent
one at least. So, Sean,

476
00:32:16.880 --> 00:32:20.599
I'm doing the book and I have
twenty four guys, right, and I

477
00:32:21.200 --> 00:32:22.279
needed twenty fifth and it's of course
it's going to be Sean, and I

478
00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:27.200
had no problem. I'll find Sean. Sean was the last dude after so

479
00:32:27.319 --> 00:32:30.039
many months. I had to find
him in Mexico. He's scary that but

480
00:32:30.119 --> 00:32:34.240
Gemi's out of me because I'm chasing
tracking him down forever. He knows this

481
00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:36.559
too, right, he knows this, dude. And one of the best

482
00:32:36.559 --> 00:32:39.160
stories in it is when when Schlute
made him cry. It was the New

483
00:32:39.200 --> 00:32:46.079
Mexico game. I think your sophomore
year that was UNLB when you took when

484
00:32:46.079 --> 00:32:50.160
you took control or somehow you shouldn't
have. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

485
00:32:50.279 --> 00:32:54.319
I broke it off, broke off
the play, took a bad shot at

486
00:32:54.359 --> 00:32:57.799
the end of the game, and
coach came in and yelled at me and

487
00:32:57.880 --> 00:33:00.680
told me, who do I think
I am? I don't trust my teammates,

488
00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:05.519
and yeah, that was one of
wasn't one of my favorite college memories,

489
00:33:06.279 --> 00:33:08.000
but he was he was right.
I mean, he was right.

490
00:33:08.079 --> 00:33:13.799
And that was a year where we
didn't have we didn't have you know,

491
00:33:13.920 --> 00:33:20.319
that kind of that veteran leadership,
uh you know, and so I uh

492
00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:22.720
took it upon myself to take a
shot. It wasn't so good, didn't

493
00:33:22.759 --> 00:33:27.720
work out very well, and coach
let me have it. So that was

494
00:33:28.039 --> 00:33:32.839
one of many that season. Actually
Coach was on my butt, but it

495
00:33:32.960 --> 00:33:37.279
was also the better. You know, by the time I got to my

496
00:33:37.359 --> 00:33:39.440
senior year, coach Olsen, if
I took a bad shot, which I

497
00:33:39.480 --> 00:33:44.759
did, take care many of I'll
be honest, Uh, he just you

498
00:33:44.759 --> 00:33:47.240
wouldn't he wouldn't say anything. He
had not. Plus he wouldn't buy you

499
00:33:47.319 --> 00:33:52.799
McDonald's broger. That's right, he
will you buy me the burger. But

500
00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:54.960
I had to give my receipt and
my change back to I was like,

501
00:33:55.039 --> 00:34:00.519
are you kidding? It's crazy?
Okay, Sean, so well know you

502
00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:04.519
know your health situation. You had
a kidney transplant years ago. Made a

503
00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:07.599
great comeback to the NBA toss about
National Kidney Month and what you're doing.

504
00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:13.480
Yeah, every March, I team
up with a healthcare company for Sinia's Kidney

505
00:34:13.519 --> 00:34:16.760
Care and we just are just trying
to spread the word and shine of spotlight

506
00:34:17.039 --> 00:34:22.760
was on a national crisis and that's
chronic kidney disease. I was struck down

507
00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:25.039
at twenty five. You know,
I think everybody kind of knows my story,

508
00:34:25.440 --> 00:34:29.039
but a lot of people don't really
know the intricacies in my story.

509
00:34:29.599 --> 00:34:32.840
How I started feeling symptoms at twenty
five years old. I had a transplant

510
00:34:34.559 --> 00:34:38.559
in nine August of nineteen ninety nine. But the problem with kidney disease is

511
00:34:38.599 --> 00:34:43.800
that when you start to feel the
symptoms that it's already advanced. And so

512
00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:49.320
right now you have one in seven
American adults that have chronic kidney disease.

513
00:34:49.679 --> 00:34:54.719
That's thirty five million people. Thirty
five million. The problem is nine out

514
00:34:54.760 --> 00:35:00.960
of ten people don't know they have
kidney disease. Symptoms haven't presented themselves yet.

515
00:35:01.320 --> 00:35:06.280
So I'm working with for Sidneous Kidney
Care. You can go to vicinious

516
00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:10.599
kidneycare dot com and you'll see my
ugly mug up there. My story is

517
00:35:10.679 --> 00:35:16.280
there. But basically we're trying to
encourage people to get tested, to talk

518
00:35:16.320 --> 00:35:20.400
to your doctor about it, and
to check to see if you're in a

519
00:35:20.519 --> 00:35:23.400
high risk. If you have diabetes, high blood pressure, or some other

520
00:35:23.599 --> 00:35:30.800
underlying conditions. You need to ask
your doctor about getting tested for chronic kidney

521
00:35:30.840 --> 00:35:35.079
disease because right now we're living in
the age of Golden Age of medicine.

522
00:35:36.039 --> 00:35:39.320
I mean, there's no excuse right
now to be blindsided the way I was

523
00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:45.639
blindsided at twenty five years old.
So get yourself tested. Go to Forresidious

524
00:35:45.719 --> 00:35:47.840
Kidneycare dot com. You can check
it out if you have any questions.

525
00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:52.400
They have recipes, they have all
kinds of treatment plans for people that are

526
00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:58.320
diagnosed with chronic kidney disease. There's
no excuse. There are so many people

527
00:35:58.400 --> 00:36:00.599
walking around right now with kidney disease, and if you get on it early,

528
00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:05.280
it's a game changer. So talk
to your doctor about getting tested.

529
00:36:05.440 --> 00:36:07.400
There you go, Well, we'll
put that website up on our social media

530
00:36:07.800 --> 00:36:10.719
for Sinius Kidney Care. I'm looking
at your mug. Good looking photo of

531
00:36:10.800 --> 00:36:15.679
you there, Sean looks like so
you know, I mean, I mean,

532
00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:16.440
what the hell I mean, Steve
and I you should see it.

533
00:36:16.519 --> 00:36:21.119
You haven't seen it, and we
look our age and older. You still

534
00:36:21.159 --> 00:36:24.360
look like you could play. Come
on, I I it's all. It's

535
00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:30.559
all. It's all fake man.
It's great makeup, eating right, uh,

536
00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:32.519
you know, working out four or
five days a week, getting out

537
00:36:32.559 --> 00:36:36.920
in the sunshine on the golf course, having low stress job and like,

538
00:36:37.639 --> 00:36:40.880
yeah, lots of makeup and the
proper lighting you lost when you said me,

539
00:36:42.599 --> 00:36:45.039
when you said working out, that
ended it for me to Sean.

540
00:36:45.079 --> 00:36:50.719
Thanks a bunch of we hopeful a
degree get you a job. I appreciate

541
00:36:50.800 --> 00:36:55.400
you. Thanks about see, I
appreciate you all. He's always good.

542
00:36:55.480 --> 00:36:59.840
He's great, great shan. So
we'll talk about more on the Let's yeah,

543
00:36:59.880 --> 00:37:01.159
let''s get to our break. More
stuff on the other side. We've

544
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I on the Ball. Hey, welcome

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Fox Sports fourteen fifty on Steve. He's

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guys want to call five two oh four

592
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one six seventy four forty. It
was fun to get ahold of Sean.

593
00:40:32.119 --> 00:40:35.280
Yeah, it was great. Uh, we'll go wind to get him for

594
00:40:35.320 --> 00:40:37.760
a long time. And you know
we both had our experiences with him.

595
00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:42.480
You've had you know, he's been
done stuff with your book. You know,

596
00:40:42.559 --> 00:40:46.199
I covered his two year two of
his four years here the are he

597
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actually eighty six, eighty seven and
then the eighty eight eight a forwards for

598
00:40:50.840 --> 00:40:52.760
my third book too well looke.
Yeah, so just you know, just

599
00:40:52.840 --> 00:40:57.079
a good guy, always has been
local guy, he's made it big.

600
00:40:57.360 --> 00:40:59.840
I think he's got a decent job
those game. Yeah, he does this

601
00:41:00.559 --> 00:41:02.639
all right. Let's take this call
hire on the air and on the ball.

602
00:41:05.719 --> 00:41:08.599
Yeah, James, Hey, James, Hey, you guys doing We're

603
00:41:08.639 --> 00:41:14.800
good? How are you? What's
up? What's the Vegas? Obviously a

604
00:41:14.840 --> 00:41:16.840
little disappointed on how it turned out, but it was good to see all

605
00:41:16.880 --> 00:41:22.039
the U of A fans just about
everywhere on the strip. Right, But

606
00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:25.440
what'd you say? Did you stay
on Saturday? Yeah? I say I

607
00:41:25.519 --> 00:41:30.880
came back Sunday. Did you go
to the game on Saturday? And now

608
00:41:31.960 --> 00:41:36.480
so we're at tickets but I decided
not to go? Were you mad?

609
00:41:36.719 --> 00:41:43.119
Frustrated? Shrug your shoulders? How
did you take the loss? It's pretty

610
00:41:43.159 --> 00:41:45.760
disheartening. You know, this is
the last PAC twelve and you know it's

611
00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:50.719
been nice to get a three pizza
ended out. But you know, one

612
00:41:50.760 --> 00:41:52.079
game at the time, one game
at a time, and hopefully you have

613
00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:57.119
a can bounce back for the tournament. But I do have to say I

614
00:41:57.159 --> 00:42:01.599
think that is Jay has a bad
take on the UH on what's in Boswell

615
00:42:01.760 --> 00:42:07.159
playing at the poker table. That's
unacceptable. I think he should be suspended

616
00:42:07.199 --> 00:42:09.840
a game. Who knows that.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, who

617
00:42:09.920 --> 00:42:14.679
knows it might happen. We we
just don't know. Ka we bring up

618
00:42:14.760 --> 00:42:16.320
you know, loud Olson's theirs and
stuff. I don't think ud Olson would

619
00:42:16.320 --> 00:42:22.199
have been okay with that scenario.
No, no, you can't assume anything.

620
00:42:22.239 --> 00:42:24.480
But no, I don't think so. Maybe the only other thing,

621
00:42:24.719 --> 00:42:29.039
as you guys were talking about,
Uh, Tommy Lloyd, you know he

622
00:42:29.159 --> 00:42:32.519
hasn't uh he hasn't done well the
first three years versus d Olson didn't do

623
00:42:32.639 --> 00:42:36.000
first three years. He wasn't playing
that. I didn't do as well.

624
00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:39.679
But you know, Ludelson built the
built the whole foundation. So it's a

625
00:42:39.679 --> 00:42:43.639
little bit different. But if if
Shaun Elliott says he's a great coach,

626
00:42:43.719 --> 00:42:45.239
then I trust him. There you
go, there you go. All right,

627
00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:47.280
James, Hey appreciate it. Thanks
about Oh what do you think of

628
00:42:47.320 --> 00:42:51.400
the women where? Uh? Oh
yeah, that's awesome. I'm glad they

629
00:42:51.440 --> 00:42:52.800
made the tournament. They're actually in
the tournament. Know they are in the

630
00:42:52.840 --> 00:42:57.440
tournament, and I think they're gonna
beat Auburn and you see what happens from

631
00:42:57.440 --> 00:43:00.320
there. They have a great story. Uh. Dia really pulled it out

632
00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:01.800
the end of the year, and
I'm excited to see what they can do.

633
00:43:02.039 --> 00:43:05.559
All right, sounds great? Okay, James, thanks about appreciate the

634
00:43:05.599 --> 00:43:10.119
call as always. No, I
mean, yeah, look, I guess,

635
00:43:10.239 --> 00:43:15.599
I guess I'm in the end.
Like I said, the column boss

636
00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:19.800
will think bad luck. You can't
do that. But when you break it

637
00:43:19.880 --> 00:43:23.239
down to its bare bones of it, who didn't you know? Okay,

638
00:43:23.360 --> 00:43:27.400
I did it, but I wasn't. You're right, I wasn't a UFA

639
00:43:27.480 --> 00:43:30.840
basketball player in the middle of a
tournament in Vegas when I was trying to

640
00:43:30.840 --> 00:43:35.079
get on a black check table when
I was eighteen years old. So it

641
00:43:35.239 --> 00:43:37.679
is different. And I agreed that
it's a bad look. I don't know

642
00:43:37.719 --> 00:43:43.239
if it warrants a suspension. Maybe
it warrants running a bunch of extra laps,

643
00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:46.000
or an apology to your play,
your teammates or whatever. It was

644
00:43:46.039 --> 00:43:50.519
a bad look no matter how you
look at it. I don't know if

645
00:43:50.519 --> 00:43:53.480
you think that, yeah I do. I do, and I'm not the

646
00:43:53.559 --> 00:43:55.519
coach. It depends what they say. Right, you got another call.

647
00:43:55.639 --> 00:44:00.480
I take this call higher on the
ar and I on the ball. How's

648
00:44:00.480 --> 00:44:06.159
it going Today's Well, I just
listening to Defilt talk about you know Tommy

649
00:44:06.239 --> 00:44:09.000
Lloyd, you know how you know
he's not a great coach. Whatever I'm

650
00:44:09.000 --> 00:44:15.239
going you can't compare lude Olson and
Tommy Lloyd. But for one thing,

651
00:44:15.400 --> 00:44:20.559
Tommy Lloyds only been here three years, and Tommy and Ludelson didn't have to

652
00:44:20.639 --> 00:44:22.599
deal with what Tommy Lloyd is dealing. You're exactly right, you know,

653
00:44:22.719 --> 00:44:31.119
player players, here's three four years
and and now you know if three or

654
00:44:31.119 --> 00:44:35.599
four years these kids have been in
three different colleges. Yeah, so let

655
00:44:35.639 --> 00:44:37.519
me ask you some whole different ball
game. Did you do you read me

656
00:44:37.800 --> 00:44:43.119
at all? No? Probably not
so yes, so yeah, yeah,

657
00:44:43.679 --> 00:44:45.239
okay, So last week I asked
the question and I may for He's it

658
00:44:45.320 --> 00:44:49.199
kind of funny to Tommy and do
you you heard it right? It was

659
00:44:49.360 --> 00:44:52.079
uh people in the streets. And
he looked at me like, yeah,

660
00:44:52.079 --> 00:44:58.000
what streets are are frustrated with the
team? Are you frustrated? And he

661
00:44:58.039 --> 00:45:00.639
gave me the standard. He didn't
ask the question, but game the center.

662
00:45:00.840 --> 00:45:02.960
I understand what fans fee, how
fans feel YadA, yaha, you

663
00:45:04.039 --> 00:45:07.760
know they love the team, yah
yah, But who are you talking to

664
00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:10.960
on the streets who think that Tommy
Lloyd isn't a good coach. And what

665
00:45:12.039 --> 00:45:15.039
are you hearing this? Well?
You know, I mean you hear some

666
00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:19.440
you know, specially after a loss. You know, I mean, Tom

667
00:45:19.639 --> 00:45:22.480
is the greatest thing ever when we
win. But you know, then we

668
00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:24.159
have a loss that we're not supposed
to lose, and all of a sudden

669
00:45:24.280 --> 00:45:28.800
things, you know, all he
can't coach, you know, but people

670
00:45:28.880 --> 00:45:30.960
have to realize they're they're playing against
the team we just want is just as

671
00:45:31.000 --> 00:45:35.400
bad as we do, yes,
right, and and and we also have

672
00:45:35.519 --> 00:45:40.400
to realize this team has to play
one hundred percent. Everybody has to be

673
00:45:40.760 --> 00:45:45.039
doing their best. But if we're
not shooting well, there's a great chance

674
00:45:45.119 --> 00:45:49.880
we're losing. And if we're turning
the ball over like we did against Oregon,

675
00:45:50.599 --> 00:45:52.119
you know, it's terrible. If
we can't make free throws. You

676
00:45:52.199 --> 00:45:57.599
know, everything has to work for
us to be successful. If we expect

677
00:45:57.639 --> 00:46:00.280
to get to the elite a final
forwardever, we can't play anything like we

678
00:46:00.400 --> 00:46:05.280
played before. Otherwise we're gone,
at least in around the sixteen. The

679
00:46:05.360 --> 00:46:08.159
funny thing is everything that could have
happened on that Friday, the turnovers,

680
00:46:08.199 --> 00:46:13.320
which were very uncharacteristic, they look
horrible, and then the free throws the

681
00:46:13.519 --> 00:46:15.880
fifty percent. Yeah, they were
awful. Come on, outside of ballow,

682
00:46:16.280 --> 00:46:20.280
no one should be missing free throws. Yeah, right, you know.

683
00:46:20.400 --> 00:46:24.719
And also one thing, and ask
a question on this thing with Boswell

684
00:46:24.920 --> 00:46:30.159
and the gambling thing playing blackjack?
When did that happen? That's the question

685
00:46:30.239 --> 00:46:32.679
of point. Yeah, that's the
question when what time? Yeah, I

686
00:46:32.760 --> 00:46:39.079
mean, if it happened after the
loss to Oregon, does it bothered me

687
00:46:39.159 --> 00:46:43.599
as much? No, But if
it happened in between the two games or

688
00:46:43.639 --> 00:46:45.840
prior to that first game, then
it does bother me. Yeah. No,

689
00:46:46.039 --> 00:46:47.880
Yeah, And that's it. That's
it. That's a fair way to

690
00:46:49.360 --> 00:46:51.800
that's a fair way to characterize that. All right, Brian, Hey,

691
00:46:51.840 --> 00:46:55.840
thanks much. Man, Okay,
doculator, all right, well let's let's

692
00:46:55.840 --> 00:46:59.360
go back to that because you mentioned, you know what, what about the

693
00:47:00.239 --> 00:47:02.800
reaction stuff and how fans take loss, yeah, and stuff like that.

694
00:47:04.280 --> 00:47:07.800
But you know, he was it. Tommy was asked that again yesterday.

695
00:47:07.800 --> 00:47:10.320
You know what, how do you
feel about the way fans handle, you

696
00:47:10.400 --> 00:47:13.800
know, the games that you lose. Here's what he had to say.

697
00:47:14.480 --> 00:47:17.239
Fans justify things a lot of ways. And that's what's cool about being a

698
00:47:17.320 --> 00:47:21.400
fan is you get an opinion and
you get a voice with your friends,

699
00:47:21.599 --> 00:47:24.000
you know. But I mean those
things don't really penetrate us. And you

700
00:47:24.079 --> 00:47:25.960
know, we would have loved to
play better, and you know, we

701
00:47:27.000 --> 00:47:30.159
would have loved to win the Pac
twelve tournament, but we didn't. So

702
00:47:30.320 --> 00:47:32.239
you know, we got to play
the Handwardel and the handwardell. Now is

703
00:47:32.679 --> 00:47:37.559
you know, getting rested and re
energized and and and heading up the Salt

704
00:47:37.639 --> 00:47:39.639
Lake to play Long Beach. I
mean we were not overthinking it anything more

705
00:47:39.719 --> 00:47:44.840
than that. Yeah, So put
you a simple uh, fans of fans?

706
00:47:44.880 --> 00:47:50.199
I mean you I think I've calmed
you down a little? You think,

707
00:47:51.000 --> 00:47:53.119
No, I calmed myself down by
by well, I would make you

708
00:47:53.320 --> 00:47:55.760
more realistic. Well no, but
see here's the here's the thing. I

709
00:47:55.920 --> 00:48:00.239
was upset for my own self.
Well, okay, that I had to

710
00:48:00.280 --> 00:48:02.239
go to the game on Saturday night
and Arizona wasn't in it. Okay,

711
00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:07.079
and I had to go and I
was there for So how upset were you?

712
00:48:07.159 --> 00:48:08.519
I was there for five hours on
Saturday, you know, for the

713
00:48:08.559 --> 00:48:10.800
game because I had to get there
two hours early and they left an hour

714
00:48:10.800 --> 00:48:14.480
after the game, and Arizona wasn't
in the game, and it took all

715
00:48:14.480 --> 00:48:16.559
the juice out of the arena.
That's why I was upset. When I

716
00:48:16.639 --> 00:48:22.280
really broke it down as to what
happened, I'm like, like we did

717
00:48:22.440 --> 00:48:27.719
last after they lost to USC and
the last week. Nothing changed. Yeah,

718
00:48:27.760 --> 00:48:30.519
nothing changed. Nothing changed. They
can still lose in the first round,

719
00:48:30.559 --> 00:48:32.119
they can still win it all.
They're still playing games that they can

720
00:48:32.199 --> 00:48:36.199
lose to anybody, and there's and
they're still good enough to beat anybody.

721
00:48:36.360 --> 00:48:39.079
So nothing changed. And when you
thought about it like that, which is

722
00:48:39.199 --> 00:48:43.719
where my head was on Sunday as
I was headed home, it's gone,

723
00:48:44.559 --> 00:48:46.599
all right, what's you know?
Okay, everybody relaxed, showing a scale

724
00:48:46.639 --> 00:48:51.119
of one to ten. How upset
were you on Friday? Probably about a

725
00:48:51.159 --> 00:48:58.320
seven? And then it calmed down
by by Sunday morning. I guess I

726
00:48:58.400 --> 00:49:00.960
thought you were gonna say by nine
o'clock. No, no, no,

727
00:49:00.119 --> 00:49:04.559
well no by uh you know,
because I was upset all day Saturday because

728
00:49:04.559 --> 00:49:09.079
I still had to go to the
game. So yeah, so it percolated

729
00:49:09.159 --> 00:49:12.679
for a while because they still had
to go to the game. You get

730
00:49:12.719 --> 00:49:16.159
to the arena look on Thursday,
because I had to be there on Wednesday

731
00:49:16.199 --> 00:49:20.119
for all the games on Wednesday,
right, there's no buzz in the arena

732
00:49:20.320 --> 00:49:24.320
Wednesday game. Arizona had the first
game on Thursday. The first time I

733
00:49:24.400 --> 00:49:28.559
walked actually onto the court or into
the arena, you know, because I

734
00:49:28.679 --> 00:49:31.480
get there underneath, I'm in the
office that we're in and stuff like that.

735
00:49:32.239 --> 00:49:36.360
When I walked out on it was
about eleven o'clock, so it was

736
00:49:36.360 --> 00:49:42.280
still about an hour before tip.
The buzz was inherent. I mean,

737
00:49:42.360 --> 00:49:45.920
you could feel that Arizona was about
Arizona. Fans were showing up, and

738
00:49:46.079 --> 00:49:50.920
there was an excitement to the arena. They were nervous right because of what

739
00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:53.840
happened right before, And there was
an excitement to the arena ony on Thursday

740
00:49:54.239 --> 00:50:00.599
that you don't feel when Arizona's not
there. Even for the evening session Thursday

741
00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:04.119
night, you know, Arizona wasn't
playing. It was like, you know,

742
00:50:04.280 --> 00:50:07.880
okay. So then you go in
on you know, and a Friday,

743
00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:12.719
again the buzz. But then they
lost and all the air got sucked

744
00:50:12.719 --> 00:50:15.360
out of the arena. So you
go there on Saturday and you walk in

745
00:50:16.039 --> 00:50:21.920
and h right, it's just we
got to get through. This is how

746
00:50:21.960 --> 00:50:24.920
you is how you think about it, and that's what upset me more than

747
00:50:24.960 --> 00:50:28.599
anything about the loss. Well,
I think that's so much about whether or

748
00:50:28.639 --> 00:50:30.079
not I thought they could do well
in the tournament. Well, I think

749
00:50:30.119 --> 00:50:35.599
that you've become unders my opinion,
you become more of a sensible fan,

750
00:50:36.400 --> 00:50:40.199
more of a sensible fan, even
despite your sevens. Take it well,

751
00:50:40.239 --> 00:50:44.639
because I've seen the unsensible fans,
Steve, you can take that pack.

752
00:50:45.360 --> 00:50:49.760
I've seen the unsensible fans through Facebook. Can you see on Twitter where they

753
00:50:49.960 --> 00:50:54.360
just people just Joe Schmoe from the
street. I wouldn't say occupations because you're

754
00:50:54.360 --> 00:50:59.920
not one of the Spirit's occupations,
but Joe, all these guys really Yeah,

755
00:51:00.400 --> 00:51:02.280
like the dude that was yelling in
my ear exactly, Caleb, you're

756
00:51:02.320 --> 00:51:06.440
the worst player scene exactly? Who
is that? What are you saying?

757
00:51:07.920 --> 00:51:10.280
Watched? Yeah, worst player I've
ever seen. You're awful. How much

758
00:51:10.320 --> 00:51:15.239
you got on this game? The
guy was actually saying before the last time

759
00:51:15.320 --> 00:51:16.920
out, when Caleb b Love been
sitting out of the game, they needed

760
00:51:16.960 --> 00:51:20.760
a three point sure, they put
him in the game. He's yelling at

761
00:51:20.800 --> 00:51:22.320
Tommy, why are you putting him
back in the game? And I want

762
00:51:22.360 --> 00:51:25.639
to say, because he's the player
of the year, he's the player of

763
00:51:25.639 --> 00:51:28.880
the years? Would that be a
good reason to put him in the game.

764
00:51:31.280 --> 00:51:36.199
And that's the fan that Arizona has. And the thing about is a

765
00:51:36.239 --> 00:51:38.599
lot of the places have these fans. They have this because they're spoiled.

766
00:51:38.639 --> 00:51:42.320
They've they've been given a lot,
I mean, they expect a lot.

767
00:51:42.440 --> 00:51:45.519
What were the Houston fans thinking of, Oh, of course, of course,

768
00:51:45.639 --> 00:51:47.480
No, we're not gonna win this. We're horrible, can't score any

769
00:51:47.519 --> 00:51:51.719
baskets. Even Yu Kong before I'm
sure was the same way. Yeah,

770
00:51:52.199 --> 00:51:54.960
I want to play one last clip
because people are saying, you know how

771
00:51:55.000 --> 00:51:58.760
hard you know, teams take it
when they lose in the first round,

772
00:51:59.079 --> 00:52:00.800
and you know, Arizona's life Princeton
and Tommy got asked, you know,

773
00:52:00.920 --> 00:52:04.280
does it last year have anything to
do with this year? Here's what he

774
00:52:04.360 --> 00:52:07.239
said, Well, last year is
last year. I mean we've never denied

775
00:52:07.239 --> 00:52:08.280
it, We've owned it, you
know, I mean it's part of our

776
00:52:08.360 --> 00:52:10.679
history, part of our legacy.
And you know, when you're in a

777
00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:15.760
program like Arizona, you you you're
gonna have great successes and you're also gonna

778
00:52:15.760 --> 00:52:19.079
have some things that look like monumental
failures. It's just it's just how it

779
00:52:19.199 --> 00:52:22.039
goes. And so you know,
we've never avoided it. All year,

780
00:52:22.119 --> 00:52:24.639
we talk about it. We we
openly acknowledge it in our program. We're

781
00:52:24.679 --> 00:52:29.599
not embarrassed about it. So you
know, we're looking forward to another opportunity

782
00:52:29.679 --> 00:52:31.880
this year, and and this team's
journey is different than last year's journey,

783
00:52:32.000 --> 00:52:36.280
so you know we're excited to get
out there and and and and play a

784
00:52:36.880 --> 00:52:39.880
play play Thursday. All right,
m hm, we'll fired up. All

785
00:52:39.960 --> 00:52:44.519
right, Steve's out of here.
Look for look for our our bracket.

786
00:52:44.760 --> 00:52:45.920
Uh, we're gonna put a bracket
up on our social media. We'll pin

787
00:52:46.000 --> 00:52:51.320
it on Facebook and uh and uh
Twitter. Uh. It's it's free to

788
00:52:51.559 --> 00:52:54.280
enter, doesn't cost anything. It's
all online. You'll be able to fill

789
00:52:54.320 --> 00:52:58.360
it out online. Win or gets
dinner with Steve and I will take you

790
00:52:58.400 --> 00:53:00.159
to a great Mexican restaurant or something
like that. And if you're from out

791
00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:02.320
of town, we'll send you a
gift card or something like that too,

792
00:53:02.400 --> 00:53:06.159
so you can have dinner somewhere.
It's just for fun. You're not gonna

793
00:53:06.159 --> 00:53:08.400
get rich off of this. It's
just fun and something to talk about as

794
00:53:08.440 --> 00:53:10.880
we go through the NC double a
tournament Steve, and I'll enter it as

795
00:53:10.920 --> 00:53:14.800
well, so you can see how
you do up against us, because I

796
00:53:14.880 --> 00:53:16.360
know I suck. I know about
Steve. We'll see, all right,

797
00:53:16.440 --> 00:53:22.119
we'll see. So we'll be back
tomorrow. NC double A Committee Chair Charles

798
00:53:22.199 --> 00:53:24.480
McClelland and Ryan Ratky, so be
sure to come back tomorrow