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Now we head to Arizona. We're
in a recent state Supreme Court ruling.

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The body decided to go back to
a Civil War era law that bans all

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abortioned with the exception of life of
the mother. Even more crazy, members

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of the state Senate had a prayer
circle, speaking in tongue. Helen has

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more on the stword Helen, Well, Jess. When you think the government

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can't get any more bizarre, politicians
just continue to bring on the crazy.

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The Arizona State Senate success and overturning
Roe v. Wade now has one of

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the most restrictive bans on bodily autonomy
in the United States. This happened by

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means of a Civil War era law
which was written into the books before Arizona

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was even a state. Even more
crazy, members of Arizona State Senate head

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prayer circle and spoken tongues. Senator
Anthony Kern left the prayer, though the

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specifics are lacking off for what they
asked their invisible I Goetty four. This

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is another example of religion invading not
only our state government, but using sub

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religion to inform policy. This story
is from The Friendly Atheist by Him and

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Meta on April eleven, twenty twenty
four. Okay, okay, okay,

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Now, those of you that have
been that I have seen me on the

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show, and those of you on
my panel that are on my buds,

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this makes me mad because I'm tired, so tired of religion taking people's ability

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away to make decisions for their own
bodies, their own families, their own

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lives. I feel like a broken
record. I'm getting sick of being this

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broken record. And I know that
the majority of people, even people that

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are religious, agree with me.
This is a fucked up law. And

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the fact that we have state representatives
praying and speaking in tongues on the Senate

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floor in Arizona, it's fucking weird. It's disturbing, and I have questions

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what has happened? What has happened? Because okay, like I okay,

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okay, okay, take a moment. I'm gonna center myself to talk to

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saying okay, we're out, yeah, okay, okay, let me take

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a moment. Okay. Now,
I understand there are plenty of people in

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government that are religious. There are
plenty and they and they're not all Christians,

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you know. They There are plenty
of people that have many different views,

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and I think that's a good thing. I think that if we live

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in a democracy, that means that
every single type of person, regard depending

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on their background, their sexuality,
you know, what the color skin is,

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their culture should be represented. You
know, like this is a very

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important me living in democracy. But
but what happens is been through that the

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religious people have said, oh you
know what, we get to be number

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one say and fuck you all.
Basically that's the attitude that's happened. And

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the fact that they had to go
back to one the Civil War to bring

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this law about says where their mindset
is, where you can marry a ten

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year old and everybody was dying from
dysentery, you know like this, and

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also you could there were laws against
beating your wife, but the wick couldn't

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be any bigger than your thumb.
So that that's the type of stuff we're

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looking at right now where they got
these ideas from. And also that if

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I would hope that everybody that the
people that make our policy, why did

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I have a prayer circle and start
speaking gibberish? I find that questionable,

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And I worry about your ability to
make laws for your constituents and the and

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your state is large, like I
have questions and I wonder why so.

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And also there's some Christian persecution,
go perceived Christian personcution going on. We

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can talk about that a little bit
more, but this, this is very

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problematic and unfortunately is a center of
a wire problem that continues to keep happening.

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So anyway, I said that I'm
going to go have tea with Satan

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and I'll be back while Helen has
tea with Satan. Let's go back to

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this whole thing about how the Senate, specifically Senator State Senator Anthony Kern,

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decided to have this whole prayer circle. And I wanted to ask you,

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in Fidel, if you can just
give us a little bit more sordid detail

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about the glossily Gatherine that happened in
Arizona. I have to say that being

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raised around that it was definitely a
triggering event just to sit and listen to

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this Yabba daba doing and it was
just, you know, they preresent this

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veneer of holiness or whatever they want
to call it. But the truth is

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they're doing exactly what Jesus said not
to do. They shouldn't be praying in

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public and beating the floors and pounding
their chest and doling all of this.

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It just is another example of how
they want to put their religiosity front and

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center because it's what they want to
be judged by. It's what people want

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people to judge them as is.
They're the good Christians who want to bring

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godly things to you. So how
can you be against that? I can't

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remember exactly how he worded it,
but it was some kind of oh,

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the god haters are out against it
now when somebody complained about their whole speaking

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in tongues nonsense, and no,
this isn't about God haters. This is

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about people who will just want fundamental
rights that anybody should be able to have

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and going back and anytime your group
is going back to the Civil War era

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to defend a law, and as
Helen mentioned, where ten year olds were

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allowed to marry, maybe you want
to reconsider what your goals are. So

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I think that they have made this
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the one good thing is because all
eyes are on Arizona now. Whether the

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Yaba Dabad had anything to do with
it, I have my doubts, but

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okay, be careful what you wish
for as I've said before, I don't

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think the Republicans ever wanted to win
this now and that they've got it,

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it's sitting firmly in their laps.
I've mentioned the dog catching the car before

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and saying it again. I think
we're seeing the car go back up and

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reverse and roll over a few times
here because now they own it. They

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asked far it, they got it, and this is what happens when you

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leave it to the states. That's
exact. Well, I guess not really

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because it was a territory then,
but same premises apply. You bring up

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a really good point, especially about
you know, the Republican lawmakers, because

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they're the ones who kind of like
perpetuated this whole thing, you know,

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And the article actually highlight the complicity
of Republican lawmakers and advancing regressive policies that

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harm women's reproductive right. And I
know that, Jason, you have some

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pinions about this particular totori, and
I would love to hear your opinions,

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if you will, please Expand you
know, Helen and Infidel said smart things.

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I just just what the fuck,
man, I just I don't even

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know what's going on. This is
they're literally doing fucking magic spells, saying

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weird fake words, making berserk sounds
while bowing in a circle and beating on

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the ground. I mean, seriously, what the fuck man the And these

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are the same people who are worried
about any of you who use science,

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scientific methodology to confirm reality that we
literally have fucking wizards speaking magic enchantments in

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the middle of a fucking government facility
where they make decisions about people's lives.

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Something has to fucking change. I
agree with Helen, So something has to

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fucking change. This is terrifying.
This is the type of fucking extremist religious

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formative fucking nonsense that we see allowed. I mean, on the world stage

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at this point, we see we
see people speaking in tons. It just

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it bowls my fucking mind. This
is supposed to be home for secular reasoning.

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This is a place where we should
be able to exchange ideas without the

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poisonous fangs of religion there to drain
the life out of any exploit aimed at

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increasing the well being of the majority. This, this is fucking just lunacy

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to me that that this is even
allowed, and that anybody takes a shit

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serious. And I agree with Infidel. This is this is the type of

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shit I grew up around. Was
this type of shit, was people fucking

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just blurting out fucking nonsense and then
people pretending like it was poignant. And

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then you're being raised around this shit
and you start getting emotional reactions to this

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shit. Your identity gets fucking foreclosed
and you're actually like caring about this.

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This is fucking just nonsense. And
we have people literally making decisions that affect

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lives, literal lives and health,
medical fucking decisions while they do some fucking

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magic cult shit. I and that's
what it is. This is some fucking

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cult shit, and it's disgusting and
I'm appalled, and I think Infidel's wat

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we brought it up. This is
what happens when you do states rights,

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and that term states rights comes from
people trying to keep their territory, their

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state a fucking racist hell hole.
That is what it has progressed from is

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racism. It has been propagated by
the same fucking breed of people, these

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motherfuckers, man, And it's disgusting
that they have so much that what they

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say and what they do bears so
much gravitas on our existence. I just

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I don't. It's it's crazy making. It's the fact that this actually makes

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an impact and these people are even
allowed to make these decisions. Is it

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just? It just sucks all optimism
out of me. And now I'm just

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trying to see how the fuck do
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kid's old enough. I don't want
to be here anymore. I'm in fucking

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Texas. And if y'all read the
shit that the Texas GOP issued, I

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think it's twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen
their mission statement. It's the same shit,

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and these are the motherfuckers that are
making decisions, and especially in places

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like Arizona and places like Texas,
I believe Arizona is the same. It's

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a minority majority state. That means
that people in power are not representative of

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the majority of the people and their
needs within their own fucking state. And

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I don't know anything out of this. One's gonna be rambling and saying more

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hate. I'm gonna get back to
you, Cynthia, because I'm just I'm

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disgusted, and I don't. I
don't see any other way other than barring

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these fucking people, because this isn't
banning religious expression. You can do whatever

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fucking weird shit you want to do. I do weird shit. Everyone here

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does weird ship. But I don't
do it unless somebody can sense, and

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I do it in the fucking place
that is meant to be right. I'm

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not. I'm not doing a cage
fight while I'm on the job site,

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right. That's that's that's that's ridiculous. I wouldn't just start fucking shadow boxing

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and punching people. You know.
So you want to fucking say you're weird

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gibberous ship and you want to act, get all fucking hyped up, do

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it in your bedroom, you do
it in your place of worship. Keep

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it out of my fucking shit,
because at that point you are you are

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hindering religious freedom for all the other
religious people who don't practice the fucking cult

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ship that these fucking people practice.
Yeah, I think it's very I think

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it's very appropriate to bring that up, especially like when people are imbuing their

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belief systems into how they are conducting
law, they are basically utilizing their own

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personal beliefs and and come to mention
that the Bible never addressed abortion. Matter

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of fact, if you really want
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look at the Old Testament, if
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of the marriage, that the husband
was perfectly in his right to go to

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the pre where the priests would mix
up some type of magical concoction called bitter

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water, and she drank it and
she lost the baby. That means that

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she did in fact commit adultery,
you know. So basically they were saying,

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if she actually stepped outside the marriage
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from another person that was not her
husband, then abortion was perfectly within the

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right, you know. You know, so like and so like this whole

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thing about, Okay, we're going
to do glossiala on the floor of the

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State Senate. We're going to completely
ignore the establishment clause that makes no law

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to establish a religion and also practice
and says that people who are constituents of

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the United States can be whatever religion
they decide. But that and even Thomas

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Jefferson saying that the establishment clause was
all about erecting a wall between state and

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church, that this is supposed to
be a secular nation. And also how

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we conduct business and government even in
our states should also be secular. So

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I find this whole thing, especially
with State Senator Anthony Kern, very disturbing.

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Especially Infidel you brought it up,
and I know that, and in

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actuality, hell in your nose,
you brought it up too, about his

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whole thing, about this whole god
haters thing, you know, just because

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you're calling out something that they did
that was considered religious in a government institution

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building where you're talking about policy,
and according to the Federal Constitution, that

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is wrong. It's wrong. So
you know, I want, I'm curious

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to know from Helen and then from
you, Infidel, you know, what

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are the implications of this, Senator
Anthony Kern, even though I understand that

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it was the State Senate that I'm
not to say Senate, but the State

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of Supreme Court that ruled that we're
supposed to go back to an eighteen sixty

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four law, which you know,
I have to also mentioned. I know

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that we talked about all types of
other things that was legal at that time,

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but I have to mention that this
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legal to own a person. Okay, that we need to keep that in

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mind as well. And how but
going back to Anthony Kern. How is

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this whole implication about God haters,
you know, and and basically you know,

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calling out this particular behavior on the
Senate floor so problematic, Helen,

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you speak on that and then infidels. You know, I say this a

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lot, but I'm gonna say it
again. I have a problem with religious

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persecution and God hating. For a
reason is because if your sky Daddy that

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you played to love so much is
the creator of the universe. And if

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someone saying, like, hey,
the law that you propose that's harms half

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the population of your stage and says
like, hey, this is not cool

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man, stop that, and you
and your and your response is that you're

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hating God. And God doesn't show
up and defend himself. That's a you

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problem. That's a you problem.
He's creator of the universe. He doesn't

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need you address the fucking issue that
you actually cost. It is just is

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a straw man, you know,
moving the goal post. You know.

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I'm terrible fallacy because what it's doing
is instead of addressing what they're actually doing.

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And they know what they're doing.
They've been present, they have been

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presented with the facts. They're not
immune to these ideas. But what they're

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doing is that I'm but since I
believe in the sky Daddy and I want

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political cloud and the things I want
to happen that need to happen, I'm

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going to align myself with terrible ideas
and like Infidel said, like now they

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got the car, you know,
and even people within their own party are

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saying, oh, you know what, maybe this isn't such a great idea,

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but you know what, too bad. You passed the fucking law and

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now it's like, you know,
you made bed and I got a life

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fucking line in a man like you
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I also want to point out I
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associated with a hate group, which
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this is another hate group. It
was founded by etherial leaders at the Christian

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right that want to restrict rites for
lgbt Q people and want to criminalize them

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and believe that there's a homosexual agenda
and preature rhetoric that all queer people are

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sexual, are child sexual abusers and
there and it's just a whole lot of

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that. This is who Anthony Kerr
is associated with and meaning finded by good

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for him. They fuck this guy. Fuck this guy, and then he

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goes and cried's victim because he decides
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and then cries, oh you you
hate me because I love God. It's

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like, no, we hate you
because when you're a bigot and you're a

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sexist, and you're using your religious
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that's why we're mad. That's why
you're being called out and you and

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you can't hide behind persecution when that
your supposed to persecution is taking away the

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rights and power of people living in
your state. Man, you don't get

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to cry that. I am so
sorry for you. And that's the thing

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that makes me so angry. I'm
angry because these motherfuckers again and again and

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again say freedom for me, not
for thee, and it causes harm,

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and it causes people's lives. And
I'm and I and I'm and I'm just

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tired of it. I'm tired.
I'm tired of people using religion as a

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reason why they get to be persecuted, to be persecutory, big words,

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persecuratory, and hateful to other people, just be so they make their Skydaddy

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happy. I live in a democracy. I want to live there. I

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don't want to live in or Jesus
Land, thank you very much. Well,

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we live in a representative government,
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people in that exactly. Well.
One thing that my concern is, and

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it's definitely adjacent to this, is
the reality that when you start saying God

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haters and understanding what that means from
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what do they plan to do with
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You know, the Bible says thou
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So when you start taking that type
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God God haters, you know what
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what happens to LGBTQ, what happens
to people of whatever ilk. They may

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not just be Christian enough. It
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they're the wrong flavor of Christianity.
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if you're not the flavor I am, then you could very easily be a

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God hater too. So if you
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have, then you're not Christian enough, And so that is really what concerns

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me because this type of rhetoric along
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groups that want to what is their
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exist, And with this type of
mentality, I do think that we should

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be fearful of this type of rhetoric
because while yes it's a straw man,

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it's effective with their base, and
if they get the right people in power,

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then we don't get to make that
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from everyone except a small group of
people. And that's what I think we're

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seeing attempted here now. As someone
may have mentioned earlier about Republicans trying to

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flop flip flop on the issue Lake, she's bounced all over it. She

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was all farthest bill last year or
two years ago, and now she's going,

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ah, let know we that's not
in line with what people in Arizona

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think. Yeah, and it wasn't
in outligned with what people in Arizona thought

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two years ago, and it wasn't
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thought when the United States Supreme Court
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it's sitting in your lap. Eat
it, and I hope they keep eating

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it, because if anything good can
come out of this, it's people being

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reminded that you have a very vivid
choice in life. Do you want to

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continue the way things were in they
in pre Civil War United States? Are

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we hoping for something better? Personally? I'm really hoping for something better?

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Indeed I am as well. And
Jason, I'm going to give the final

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world word to you. I want
you to expand what would your mess be

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to this generation that is pushing back
on laws that take us back to a

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time period where slavery was the law
of the land and girls could marry at

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ten. I've probably got some opinions
that I can't share on this channel,

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but what I can share, you
have to look at it for what it

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is. These people are abusers,
and this is a typical rhetoric of an

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abuser, and abuser tends to pose
themselves as the victim. They tend to

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as act persecuted over emotional. They
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like you're doing something to them.
These people are abusers. These are people

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in positions of power with privilege,
economic privilege, privilege they have access to

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resources that we don't have. People, connections, jobs, the ears of

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people who are important can make decisions
because ultimately all this shit is just run

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by people. I guess the message
I would give would be the same thing

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I'm giving to my kid. Don't
fucking believe them, be skeptical. Employe

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skepticism. Employee reason Sadly, in
my kids public school and middle school.

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In her science class, out of
twenty five students last week, twenty two

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of them said they didn't believe in
evolution. She was later told that she

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worships the devil because she's an atheist, among other things that people will tell

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her. These kids at this age
are just now starting to differentiate, meaning

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the prefrontal cortex is going through a
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So what I'm saying is they're still
modeling the shit that they're hearing at

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home. They're still modeling their primary
socialization agents. They're mimicking what they've been

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hearing for the past twelve years,
through the developmental years, and now testing

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it out in the public sphere.
Sadly, we're seeing ninety two percent rejection

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of evolution in the middle school in
twenty twenty four. As a person who's

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developed vaccines and performed neurosurgery on primates, I can say with some degree of

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confidence that all the knowledge we have
now is based on understanding of evolution.

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All of our advances are based on
our understanding of evolution and the mechanisms and

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pressures and blah blah blah. So
I don't know. I guess the message

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I could say is, you know, don't fucking trust anybody and figure it

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out for yourself. You know,
the resources are there. Google scholar is

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a real thing, right. You
know, you can even go to chat

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GBT and ask for information on a
thing in fifteen sources in APA style.

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You know, it's really not difficult
to find information. It's just that people

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make you terrified of finding information and
there's punishments for it. So I don't

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know. That's just don't fucking listen
to anybody and find it out for yourself.

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That's about all I can tell anybody
in revolt. Indeed, well,

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the prospect of archaic laws being resurrected, as evidenced by the Arizona Supreme Court

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decision is deeply concerning. It underscores
the importance of vigilance in safeguarding secular principles

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and upholding law. The article serves
as a call to action to resist the

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encroachment of religious extreme and in government
and to defend fundamental rights freedom. The

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upcoming referendum on abortion rights in Arizonta
presents also an opportunity for citizens to reject

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the regression that these policies championed,
and lawmakers to reaffirm their commitment to a

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secular and inclusive science.

