WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:03.120 Hey, everybody, this is Less Driving. Yes, yes, I know 2 00:00:03.359 --> 00:00:29.800 aka Survivor Man, and you're listening to Brian on Sasquatch Eyes. Hey, 3 00:00:29.839 --> 00:00:33.840 then, welcome back to Sasquatch Os. Thank you so much for clicking play. 4 00:00:33.880 --> 00:00:36.640 It is Wednesday. I hope you're having a great week. We have 5 00:00:36.679 --> 00:00:39.359 an amazing show lined up for you. But as always, I want to 6 00:00:39.359 --> 00:00:42.679 start by inviting you. If you've had an encounter and you'd let to be 7 00:00:42.719 --> 00:00:45.560 on the show, shoot me an email you get me at Brian at paranambal 8 00:00:45.600 --> 00:00:48.759 World Productions dot com. Get head over to the website, check it out, 9 00:00:48.759 --> 00:00:54.520 become a memory there and help support the show. 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Huckleberry Island, as we call it, is at Lake Electing 34 00:02:29.000 --> 00:02:34.080 Gik, just north of Dillingham, approximately twenty five miles. Yeah, it's 35 00:02:34.120 --> 00:02:38.439 a large island in the middle of Electing Gig. There's custom log homes, 36 00:02:38.520 --> 00:02:44.240 beautiful, just beyond beautiful. The scenery is just unmatched anywhere. We're on 37 00:02:44.280 --> 00:02:47.159 Huckleberry Island. And one of the people I'm with is a caretaker for one 38 00:02:47.199 --> 00:02:53.360 of these cabins, a very nice cabin, multi story, flushing toilets, 39 00:02:53.919 --> 00:02:57.639 very nice for remote Alaska, trust me, a boat house. This place 40 00:02:57.680 --> 00:03:00.960 is laid out. Of course, we're young, we're having fun. One 41 00:03:01.000 --> 00:03:05.439 of the guys with us, he's no longer with us. I won't use 42 00:03:05.479 --> 00:03:10.400 his real name, but we'll call him Mike. Now, Mike was the 43 00:03:10.400 --> 00:03:15.400 boisterous one in the group. Everyone knows that guy. He's just you tell 44 00:03:15.759 --> 00:03:20.520 you tell an experience, He's got one better. He's a little socially awkward, 45 00:03:20.560 --> 00:03:24.159 lest calling. We're there about three or four days at this point. 46 00:03:24.479 --> 00:03:29.280 Subject to Harryman comes up. Understand, in the villages, if we shared 47 00:03:29.280 --> 00:03:31.639 an experience with somebody out in the bush, we may speak about it every 48 00:03:31.680 --> 00:03:38.599 once in a while. It's not a constant topic that we discussed because culturally 49 00:03:38.639 --> 00:03:43.400 speaking, it's not discussed. We don't chase after him. We just something 50 00:03:43.400 --> 00:03:46.520 happens out there, You leave it out there, and then that's just how 51 00:03:46.560 --> 00:03:52.159 it is. I don't know why you would think a small community everyone would 52 00:03:52.159 --> 00:03:54.479 be like, hey, the Harryman's over there. That kind of stuff you 53 00:03:54.520 --> 00:03:59.840 would assume. But it's not like that, all right, every village you 54 00:03:59.840 --> 00:04:04.400 can think of. Now, if you bring it up and you're not some 55 00:04:04.560 --> 00:04:10.039 dumb gosakha that they don't trust, it's gonna go down. You're gonna hear 56 00:04:10.080 --> 00:04:15.400 a lot. Coincidentally, I'm gonna be doing an interview with a relative flying 57 00:04:15.479 --> 00:04:19.439 in from Dillingham later this afternoon, just bringing up the Harryman to my cousin 58 00:04:19.480 --> 00:04:24.360 coming in. I didn't even keep track, but just one after another of 59 00:04:24.399 --> 00:04:29.399 an experience. And like I've said many times before, I'm not some sasquatch 60 00:04:29.439 --> 00:04:33.000 whisperer, or yeah, I'm not some I don't know shit. It's just 61 00:04:33.399 --> 00:04:38.920 back home. They're all over the place, especially in certain areas. I 62 00:04:38.959 --> 00:04:41.319 don't want to make it sound like every bush has a hairy man. In 63 00:04:41.399 --> 00:04:46.160 it. That's not it. You get up the Nishiyak River, you go 64 00:04:46.240 --> 00:04:48.879 up to New Yekuk, you go up the Googla Walk, you get back 65 00:04:48.920 --> 00:04:54.319 in it there. There there's no way around it. It's not a guesswork. 66 00:04:55.000 --> 00:04:59.120 There's a lot more going on, and it's so isolated and kept within 67 00:04:59.160 --> 00:05:02.800 itself that'll a lot of times a lot of this information is just gone to 68 00:05:02.839 --> 00:05:09.160 waste. And with all the missing people we have up here, Indigenous or 69 00:05:09.199 --> 00:05:14.879 otherwise, it's a disservice not to hear what's going on in these small places 70 00:05:15.519 --> 00:05:17.839 and take it serious. We're not a people that want to seek these things 71 00:05:17.920 --> 00:05:23.680 out. It's not in our culture too. We don't make total polls to 72 00:05:23.720 --> 00:05:27.879 them like they do down in Vancouver or BC or wherever. And hey, 73 00:05:28.079 --> 00:05:31.279 nothing against that culturally, Hey that's your culture. Cool up here, it's 74 00:05:31.439 --> 00:05:38.040 just not there's no good about it, none, not that I've heard yet. 75 00:05:38.079 --> 00:05:43.680 And I'm open minded. I'm not going to stay locked in on them 76 00:05:43.720 --> 00:05:47.560 just being no good. However, I don't trust them up here. And 77 00:05:47.759 --> 00:05:53.720 when you hear from my cousin or on the next video, you'll see why, 78 00:05:54.399 --> 00:05:58.759 because not a one of them involves any kind of friendship friendly kind of 79 00:05:58.800 --> 00:06:03.920 activity. It just don't Anyway, We're in that cabin about three days now, 80 00:06:04.199 --> 00:06:09.680 Mike. He was so boisterous all the time that he even made a 81 00:06:09.720 --> 00:06:15.160 lot of noise going out to the outhouse and the flushing toilets. They have 82 00:06:15.680 --> 00:06:19.480 a certain compost system thing, so we couldn't use those out there whooping it 83 00:06:19.560 --> 00:06:24.439 up as young kids, and because the owners would know that it has been 84 00:06:25.040 --> 00:06:29.639 used due to its little compost tank thing. So we're using the traditional roundhouse, 85 00:06:29.680 --> 00:06:32.920 which I've seen trapper cabins that could use some tips from this outhouse. 86 00:06:33.360 --> 00:06:38.959 It was well built, real nice. So he was making noise going out 87 00:06:39.000 --> 00:06:43.519 to this outhouse. Now. The time of year, it stayed pretty damn 88 00:06:43.600 --> 00:06:48.920 light around the clock. It never gotten dark the sunset, but was back 89 00:06:49.000 --> 00:06:55.240 up three four hours later. Yeah, anyway, goes out. He's singing 90 00:06:55.319 --> 00:07:00.199 some song popular at the time. It may have been like maybe some and 91 00:07:00.240 --> 00:07:01.920 see music factory. And I don't even know if it was popular. It's 92 00:07:01.959 --> 00:07:08.480 popular there because everything's behind because it's a remote village. He was singing this 93 00:07:08.560 --> 00:07:15.040 song and I want to get the sequence right because it's relevant. He goes 94 00:07:15.079 --> 00:07:18.920 out there, does this thing and he's singing louder on the way back, 95 00:07:20.120 --> 00:07:24.120 and he gets back up onto this wrap around deck to where you can sit 96 00:07:24.199 --> 00:07:30.839 and see over to the boat house and stuff perfectly lined up for sunsets to 97 00:07:30.879 --> 00:07:34.560 come right through all big windows. Just a beautiful place. He comes back 98 00:07:34.639 --> 00:07:39.519 up and at this point we're drinking some coffee or something on the deck. 99 00:07:39.720 --> 00:07:43.160 He said, oh, man, I gotta go again. He gets up 100 00:07:43.160 --> 00:07:46.279 on the deck and immediately he's going right back to the outhouse. It's like 101 00:07:46.319 --> 00:07:49.680 a little wiggly path in the outhouse, just offset a little bit off to 102 00:07:49.680 --> 00:07:54.680 your left of this path, and the path continues and it wraps around to 103 00:07:54.720 --> 00:08:00.279 this big shed where they have some canoes and some other stuff locked up where 104 00:08:00.279 --> 00:08:03.120 they store stuff for winter and chain it up so no one steals it. 105 00:08:03.199 --> 00:08:07.360 As he's going, he sees the door shut in the athouse and he was 106 00:08:07.399 --> 00:08:11.279 like, oh, someone beat me to it. And so, you know, 107 00:08:11.360 --> 00:08:13.319 he comes back up to the deck and he goes, hey, who 108 00:08:13.360 --> 00:08:16.680 went out behind me? And we're like, it's just us here. Everyone 109 00:08:16.680 --> 00:08:20.639 else is still inside, either sleeping or getting something to eat, whatever it 110 00:08:20.800 --> 00:08:26.879 was. And so he is, no, someone, I just saw that 111 00:08:28.079 --> 00:08:31.519 house door shut. Maybe it didn't shut all the way and then they coincidentally, 112 00:08:31.720 --> 00:08:37.639 we're on an island that bears were around, but they were over where 113 00:08:37.679 --> 00:08:41.000 salmon were in the creeks and weren't worried about what the hell we were doing 114 00:08:41.039 --> 00:08:45.600 on an island, and we were irrelevant. There was easier food. We're 115 00:08:45.639 --> 00:08:48.240 like, go see, I'm not your keeper. I don't I don't keep 116 00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:54.000 checking everyone that's with us, So he goes off. Moments later, it 117 00:08:54.200 --> 00:09:03.759 was the loudest womanlike scream I've heard from guy. He shrieked and shrilled and 118 00:09:03.480 --> 00:09:07.080 was running so fast and uncoordinated. He kept balling. His feet were moving 119 00:09:07.159 --> 00:09:11.559 faster than he could coordinate him. He just kept doing that number. We're 120 00:09:11.679 --> 00:09:16.399 laughing. The people were with we assumed he was still messed up from drinking. 121 00:09:16.759 --> 00:09:20.000 We started poking fun on him, Hey, sober up, man, 122 00:09:20.039 --> 00:09:22.519 get some coffee. You gotta calm it down, man, And he's like 123 00:09:22.840 --> 00:09:26.159 screaming frantically for help, and then he says, get a gun. It's 124 00:09:26.240 --> 00:09:31.559 big. So we're like, oh shit, probably a bear. We go 125 00:09:31.720 --> 00:09:35.039 in, we gorat firearms whatever. We come back out and we're still laughing, 126 00:09:35.080 --> 00:09:37.279 like, man, he better not be drunk, because I don't gonna 127 00:09:37.279 --> 00:09:39.279 hear guns going off this early. So we go out there to take a 128 00:09:39.279 --> 00:09:45.559 look, and this outhouse had been shifted. It was all caddywompus were just 129 00:09:46.159 --> 00:09:50.720 it was offset. Now. In order to do that without just collapsing the 130 00:09:50.759 --> 00:09:52.799 whole down thing, there had to have been a lot of force or wait 131 00:09:54.000 --> 00:09:58.720 to shift that because it was very well built. It was stick fraaming, 132 00:09:58.879 --> 00:10:03.559 but it had app blogs on the outside to match the cabin. It was 133 00:10:03.759 --> 00:10:07.279 very well built. Whoever did it was a contractor for sure, so it 134 00:10:07.480 --> 00:10:13.879 was built for snowload. It's no joke, but this place had been offset. 135 00:10:13.120 --> 00:10:16.480 We go around. We're looking for any sign, any noises, any 136 00:10:16.840 --> 00:10:22.320 movement of any kind, just to get an idea of what direction this bear 137 00:10:22.399 --> 00:10:26.840 may or may not be going. As we're sitting there doing this number, 138 00:10:26.840 --> 00:10:30.440 listening and looking to I'm not hearing anything. Bears don't give a shit if 139 00:10:30.480 --> 00:10:33.679 you hear. Let's just be clear on that if a bears around in this 140 00:10:33.799 --> 00:10:37.360 movement to the rush, it doesn't care. It's a bear. What's going 141 00:10:37.440 --> 00:10:41.519 to challenge it for going to accept another bear or bigger bear. Typically we're 142 00:10:41.519 --> 00:10:43.080 doing our thing, we're listening, we're looking at what the hell's at. 143 00:10:43.360 --> 00:10:48.080 Mike was in the cabin, so we go back and ask him, Hey, 144 00:10:48.440 --> 00:10:50.840 what direction did the bear go? It wasn't a bear, and we're 145 00:10:50.879 --> 00:10:54.600 like, what was it? He kept doing this number and we're like, 146 00:10:54.639 --> 00:10:56.720 come on, man, split it out. What did you see? Harry? 147 00:10:56.559 --> 00:10:58.639 Did you see the hairy man? It was like a Harry Man. 148 00:11:00.080 --> 00:11:03.279 What's a hairy man? And we're like, dude, the hairy man. 149 00:11:03.440 --> 00:11:07.840 Calm down, what's going on? What did you really see? He said 150 00:11:07.840 --> 00:11:11.799 it looked humanly, and we're like, yeah, that would yeah, that'd 151 00:11:11.799 --> 00:11:13.840 be a lot of hair, not fur, but hair. He's yeah. 152 00:11:15.000 --> 00:11:20.039 We're like, yeah, there's a hairy man outside. And so immediately the 153 00:11:20.039 --> 00:11:24.320 tone change. Because there are no good experiences that I've heard of up here. 154 00:11:24.600 --> 00:11:31.080 It's always some form of an aggressive type. We decide, okay, 155 00:11:31.200 --> 00:11:35.080 let's see if we could run it off, because again, typically scream, 156 00:11:35.159 --> 00:11:39.399 shake something, maybe throw something, and usually it take off usually, but 157 00:11:39.799 --> 00:11:43.240 again usually we're the ones leaving as well. We figure, well, we'll 158 00:11:43.279 --> 00:11:46.559 go and put some shots in the air if we see it, and run 159 00:11:46.600 --> 00:11:50.919 it off and be done with it. Because the majority of us that were 160 00:11:50.919 --> 00:11:56.559 there already knew the hairy man was real and had our own experiences, and 161 00:11:56.600 --> 00:12:01.000 there's others there that have heard about experiences but never have one themselves, so 162 00:12:01.039 --> 00:12:05.960 they are very skeptical, even though everyone around them anyway, It's just how 163 00:12:05.960 --> 00:12:09.320 it is socially. People don't want to be viewed as somewhere we don't give 164 00:12:09.320 --> 00:12:13.559 a craft. We go back looking, and this trail forks off, and 165 00:12:13.600 --> 00:12:18.960 there's other cabins on this island in different places, because it was whoever owned 166 00:12:18.960 --> 00:12:22.600 it originally saying, shitted it off into lots and sold it off like that. 167 00:12:24.279 --> 00:12:28.240 So we're following some of these paths that cut back through on this island, 168 00:12:28.159 --> 00:12:33.879 and we hit this one particular why and then on the trail to the 169 00:12:33.000 --> 00:12:37.919 immediate right it whis again, and so we're like, let's split this pie. 170 00:12:39.159 --> 00:12:41.960 I'll go down this trail. You go down this trail. Just don't 171 00:12:41.279 --> 00:12:45.519 if you got to shoot, don't shoot back towards each other. Okay, 172 00:12:45.600 --> 00:12:50.799 we'll do that. Now, it's taken way longer for me to tell you 173 00:12:50.879 --> 00:12:54.720 what happened as far as how it happened. This all happened relatively fast. 174 00:12:54.799 --> 00:12:56.840 We're okay, I'm gonna go there. Don't shoot, Okay, As I'm 175 00:12:56.879 --> 00:13:01.120 going down. It curves a little bit towards the right, but then you 176 00:13:01.120 --> 00:13:05.720 could see it zig Zagon goes back into the bush this trail. So I 177 00:13:05.720 --> 00:13:09.120 figured what I'll do is where it cuts. I'm going to stay in a 178 00:13:09.120 --> 00:13:13.879 little bit of the muskeg area there and just go along and see if it's 179 00:13:13.919 --> 00:13:18.559 coming out to the tree line there. As I'm going, I hear a 180 00:13:18.600 --> 00:13:22.240 gunshot over to my left, but it wasn't the direction my other buddy was 181 00:13:22.279 --> 00:13:26.279 going down on that path. It was a little bit further behind us, 182 00:13:26.679 --> 00:13:33.159 on a different trail. We hear that, and we end up meeting up 183 00:13:33.200 --> 00:13:37.080 with each other going back towards where that gun shot was because it didn't sound 184 00:13:37.159 --> 00:13:39.240 like it came from our group, because our group was in a different direction. 185 00:13:39.840 --> 00:13:45.200 We get back over there and it was another cabin owner on the other 186 00:13:45.360 --> 00:13:50.799 side of the island. We knew the guy, very well respected person back 187 00:13:50.799 --> 00:13:54.639 home. I won't dove and it's too small to give way too much, 188 00:13:54.799 --> 00:14:00.200 especially without his permission. He comes up and he's got his hunting right. 189 00:14:00.200 --> 00:14:03.360 I found his hand and he goes That son of a bitch is huge. 190 00:14:03.879 --> 00:14:07.120 It tried breaking my door. We just had the hairy mat thing going on, 191 00:14:07.399 --> 00:14:09.440 and we asked them how long ago? He goes, this is just 192 00:14:09.480 --> 00:14:13.200 a little bit ago. It took me a while to get up the nerve 193 00:14:13.279 --> 00:14:16.159 to get the gun and come out and try to run it off. And 194 00:14:16.200 --> 00:14:20.879 we're like, okay, it's shipped the outhouse over there such and such cabin 195 00:14:20.399 --> 00:14:24.759 and scared our buddy, and we were just looking to run it off ourselves. 196 00:14:24.080 --> 00:14:26.399 He goes, I'll let you guys do that. I'm gonna stay here. 197 00:14:26.440 --> 00:14:30.360 I don't want to be outside. I asked him, Hey, how 198 00:14:30.399 --> 00:14:33.440 to get in your door to jiggle the knob or something. I'm just curious. 199 00:14:33.519 --> 00:14:35.480 He goes, no, until I pointed the gun at it was just 200 00:14:35.600 --> 00:14:39.759 gently bumping against it, seeing how much forced it was going to take to 201 00:14:39.799 --> 00:14:43.000 break it. Almost like it knew exactly what it would take, but was 202 00:14:43.240 --> 00:14:48.000 messing with him. Is the feeling he said he got. So we go 203 00:14:48.080 --> 00:14:50.600 back to what we were doing. And as we're going from that trail back 204 00:14:50.639 --> 00:14:54.039 to where the original why was, we went on the phone. We ran 205 00:14:54.080 --> 00:15:00.320 into a couple other people that were with us over at that cabin. They're 206 00:15:00.399 --> 00:15:03.120 armed and they were saying, hey, we just saw the hairy man run 207 00:15:03.159 --> 00:15:09.320 across that opening. And then we heard the splashing in the lake. So 208 00:15:09.320 --> 00:15:13.240 we're immediately we're like, oh, it's swimming, okay, boom, we 209 00:15:13.360 --> 00:15:16.320 take off. We head back over to the cabin. Just as we get 210 00:15:16.399 --> 00:15:20.000 up to where the deck is, that wraps run to the front where you 211 00:15:20.000 --> 00:15:24.039 can see the boat house in that open area that these people were referring to. 212 00:15:24.639 --> 00:15:28.399 I remember it was about the third step up we heard a god awful 213 00:15:28.440 --> 00:15:33.799 scream from right behind that out house. We had run past this thing going 214 00:15:33.840 --> 00:15:35.679 to look at what we thought was the same one, and it was a 215 00:15:35.679 --> 00:15:41.039 different one that jumped in the lake. So it dawned on us that we 216 00:15:41.200 --> 00:15:45.039 just went right past this thing, and we all had the same realization. 217 00:15:45.200 --> 00:15:48.240 Right then, we're like, maybe we should re evaluate where we're staying. 218 00:15:48.279 --> 00:15:52.120 Maybe we should grow up to a gold walk or something. Because typically when 219 00:15:52.200 --> 00:15:56.159 things like this happen and there's multiple in one era and there's always more than 220 00:15:56.200 --> 00:16:00.559 one, a lot of times want to show itself to distract the other one's 221 00:16:00.600 --> 00:16:03.360 getting out of there. But it's never a happy story. It's never a 222 00:16:03.759 --> 00:16:07.399 oh, hey, guess what mad berries? They shared some berries they're actively 223 00:16:07.440 --> 00:16:11.240 trying to get into cabins. I don't know if it's even the same thing 224 00:16:11.279 --> 00:16:17.320 as what people deal with down in the States, especially hearing from that relative. 225 00:16:17.759 --> 00:16:19.679 As soon as I brought up, hey you got any good Harryman stories, 226 00:16:21.080 --> 00:16:26.799 immediately he had encounters like same area. As a matter of fact, 227 00:16:26.159 --> 00:16:32.600 the fishing game cabin that's just outside of Kalaganik is where his experience happened. 228 00:16:33.279 --> 00:16:36.320 Yeah, we were further up. We were further up by about fifteen miles. 229 00:16:36.360 --> 00:16:41.000 So it was like the number two count tower from chick Narrows we were 230 00:16:41.000 --> 00:16:45.919 in, but it's number three or four coming from the Klaganik side of the 231 00:16:45.039 --> 00:16:49.679 Nyaku. Anyway, he was in the first one by Kaliganik where his experience 232 00:16:49.720 --> 00:16:55.360 happened. But I just asked that one question, this lifelong relative, and 233 00:16:55.519 --> 00:16:59.679 the floodgates open, and I hope I'm able to share a lot of that 234 00:16:59.679 --> 00:17:04.680 stuff, especially all Alaskans, but especially the First Nations, my fellow brothers 235 00:17:04.720 --> 00:17:11.039 and sisters. A lot of Hollywood gets one or two and they don't really 236 00:17:11.279 --> 00:17:14.759 delve in. They'll hear one little experience and then it moves on. They 237 00:17:14.920 --> 00:17:19.319 play some nice music, and then they'll blend in with another Native person speaking 238 00:17:19.440 --> 00:17:26.400 and whatnot, which is good. I'm not knocking that there's a little more 239 00:17:26.440 --> 00:17:30.200 production than meat, you know what I mean. I want this to be 240 00:17:30.200 --> 00:17:36.039 meat. Let's get to the issue. Let's hear what happened. I just 241 00:17:36.079 --> 00:17:40.759 want to try to find out why, especially in certain areas, these things 242 00:17:41.000 --> 00:17:45.000 want to get you. It's not a guessing game. Everyone I've talked to 243 00:17:45.039 --> 00:17:49.039 that has had an experience out that way, not one of them had to 244 00:17:49.160 --> 00:17:55.400 just oljeep, what did it want? What was its intent? There's none 245 00:17:55.440 --> 00:18:00.279 of that. It's always either they shot near it, ran off, they 246 00:18:00.359 --> 00:18:03.279 left as soon as they see the harry Man, they're freaking out of there, 247 00:18:03.759 --> 00:18:07.279 which is nine out of ten times. These things don't evoke. Let's 248 00:18:07.319 --> 00:18:12.480 get to know each other better. Everything that happens. It's always whoever has 249 00:18:12.519 --> 00:18:18.960 the encounter leaves that area immediately. They'll eat you. That's all we've ever 250 00:18:18.000 --> 00:18:23.839 been taught. I'm sure there's some anecdotal evidence of not so crazy encounters, 251 00:18:23.960 --> 00:18:29.640 not so ominous, maybe curious and why not. And I'm sure they are, 252 00:18:30.319 --> 00:18:34.160 don't get me wrong. There's just things going on with how aggressive they 253 00:18:34.200 --> 00:18:38.240 are up here that just it seems like we're missing a piece of that puzzle. 254 00:18:38.319 --> 00:18:42.680 I don't know. I have an encounter that was shared with me from 255 00:18:42.759 --> 00:18:48.759 Jonathan. Jonathan's up from the ely On the Lake area, which is north 256 00:18:48.799 --> 00:18:51.920 of Bristol. Bay. Elon the Lake is the largest lake in Alanska. 257 00:18:52.319 --> 00:18:55.640 This happened back in I believe. He said it was nineteen eighty two. 258 00:18:55.839 --> 00:19:00.200 Him and his brother James went snow machining, still snow on the ground. 259 00:19:00.920 --> 00:19:04.839 It was midwinter caribou hen is how he put it. He didn't say whether 260 00:19:04.880 --> 00:19:11.279 it was December, January or November whatever. Here said midwinter hunt, which 261 00:19:11.319 --> 00:19:15.359 is typically in December ish. So they left by snow machine, and they 262 00:19:15.359 --> 00:19:18.680 each had a new snow machine. They did well fishing that year. They 263 00:19:18.680 --> 00:19:22.359 went rip them back to do the caribou hunt. It's quite a way is 264 00:19:22.400 --> 00:19:26.839 you got to cut through this one valley and then it cuts to another valley 265 00:19:26.880 --> 00:19:30.240 and then you get out onto the open tundra from there to go out to 266 00:19:30.319 --> 00:19:33.119 the porcupine herd. Porcupine herd is the name of the caribou herd. It 267 00:19:33.160 --> 00:19:37.240 wasn't literally a herd of porcupine. They don't roll like that up here. 268 00:19:37.640 --> 00:19:41.359 So anyway they get out there, they're good distance. They're in the last 269 00:19:41.400 --> 00:19:47.200 valley before they had to get to the edge of the tundra and go track 270 00:19:47.240 --> 00:19:49.200 them down and see where they're at. As they're going through this valley, 271 00:19:49.359 --> 00:19:53.880 his brother's snow machine fails something with the particular model they had that year. 272 00:19:53.920 --> 00:20:00.480 There was a fuel issue unbeknownst to them. So his brothers was dive, 273 00:20:00.640 --> 00:20:03.720 Okay, we'll just throw some of your stuff onto my sled that I'm toying, 274 00:20:03.759 --> 00:20:07.119 and then you ride with me and we'll get this done. Starts up 275 00:20:07.160 --> 00:20:14.200 his snow machine. Within a mile, same issue happens, identical fuel issue 276 00:20:14.240 --> 00:20:17.960 problems on both snow machines, so they're stuck. Of course, they had 277 00:20:18.000 --> 00:20:21.839 all their provisions. They weren't naked by any means, They had firearms, 278 00:20:21.839 --> 00:20:26.519 They had everything they needed and plus their first nations and that's how they live. 279 00:20:26.200 --> 00:20:30.880 They have to hike, and they have to hike all the way back 280 00:20:30.039 --> 00:20:34.960 to Nondalton, just outside of non Adult So they got a ways to go. 281 00:20:36.400 --> 00:20:40.200 But they know for a fact there's some trappers cabins along the way that 282 00:20:40.240 --> 00:20:44.480 they can take refuge in when weather changes too cold nighttime. They didn't know 283 00:20:44.480 --> 00:20:47.279 how long it was going to take. What they were really hoping for was 284 00:20:47.319 --> 00:20:52.799 another villager or snow machiner just happenstance come by and they can get it right 285 00:20:52.839 --> 00:20:56.839 out of there, warn someone that they needed help. They did have an 286 00:20:56.880 --> 00:21:00.519 old school handheld VHF, but there wasn't much range. They only had that 287 00:21:00.599 --> 00:21:06.000 to communicate with another family member once they got up onto the tundra to find 288 00:21:06.000 --> 00:21:08.000 out where the herd was. But with the way the mountains are there, 289 00:21:08.079 --> 00:21:11.359 they had no way of getting a signal out with that small of an antenna. 290 00:21:11.799 --> 00:21:15.000 So they start hiking back on a pack trail, the snow machine trail, 291 00:21:15.839 --> 00:21:21.240 and the first cabin they come across is dilapidated. It's not worth the 292 00:21:21.279 --> 00:21:25.079 time. They're better off sleeping underneath the tree. And so they're going along 293 00:21:25.480 --> 00:21:29.400 and they're a few miles into it. Their snow machines broke down the first 294 00:21:29.400 --> 00:21:33.079 part of the morning. So it's not even light this time of year yet. 295 00:21:33.079 --> 00:21:37.799 Five am in the wintertime in Alaska is like midnight anywhere else. It's 296 00:21:37.799 --> 00:21:42.000 still pitch black. It doesn't get lighter until closer to noon. They're hiking 297 00:21:42.039 --> 00:21:48.200 along and as you know, they got their headlamps and things of this nature, 298 00:21:48.400 --> 00:21:52.440 but they felt an ominous threat or anything like that. They each had 299 00:21:52.480 --> 00:21:56.440 their caribou rifle. They weren't worried about bears, that all the bears were 300 00:21:56.480 --> 00:22:00.200 hibernating. He said that as they were walking along, his brother James kept 301 00:22:00.400 --> 00:22:03.839 accusing him of throwing stuff at him, because James's a few paces ahead of 302 00:22:03.920 --> 00:22:10.480 him, and James thought that Jonathan was periodically throwing little pieces of ice, 303 00:22:10.519 --> 00:22:14.000 snow whatever. He wasn't He said, no, I'm not doing anything, 304 00:22:14.039 --> 00:22:18.920 aren't you. And as they're talking discussing stuff being thrown with their headlamps facing 305 00:22:18.920 --> 00:22:25.880 each other, they saw what appeared to be something for and just small drop 306 00:22:25.960 --> 00:22:29.079 between them, and they're looking down on the trail to see what the hell, 307 00:22:29.480 --> 00:22:32.319 and they hear movement off to their right hand side, to the south 308 00:22:32.359 --> 00:22:36.960 of them. They heard movement at the base of one of the mountains where 309 00:22:37.000 --> 00:22:38.799 the tree line is in the valley that they were cutting through. It was 310 00:22:38.839 --> 00:22:44.119 a very narrow valley up in there. Immediately their whole area change. They 311 00:22:44.119 --> 00:22:47.720 were like, something, something's going on here that we don't know. We 312 00:22:47.759 --> 00:22:51.799 don't know that, what's what about. They weren't immediately thinking harry Man, 313 00:22:52.960 --> 00:22:56.559 but they weren't ignorant to it either being first nations they were brought up. 314 00:22:56.559 --> 00:23:00.920 Look, I'm sure the same stories I was about won't be where the harry 315 00:23:00.960 --> 00:23:03.960 Man and all that. They weren't putting two and two together. So they 316 00:23:04.000 --> 00:23:08.799 continue on down and the second cabin they came up next to was in a 317 00:23:08.799 --> 00:23:12.920 lot better shape. This particular one had its roof, still had a stove, 318 00:23:12.960 --> 00:23:17.200 obviously because there was an upside down coffee can on top of the woodstack. 319 00:23:17.799 --> 00:23:21.480 So they say, Okay, well we'll use this one if we have 320 00:23:21.599 --> 00:23:26.839 to, but we have all day to hike. Let's make tracks. James, 321 00:23:26.880 --> 00:23:32.160 he didn't want to expend a lot of energy, and basically he was 322 00:23:32.160 --> 00:23:33.480 like, someone's eventually going to come by. I don't want to do all 323 00:23:33.519 --> 00:23:37.759 that walk. That's what it boils down to in essence. So he puts 324 00:23:37.839 --> 00:23:41.799 up with us about wanting to continue, and Jonathan didn't want to continue alone. 325 00:23:42.119 --> 00:23:45.960 You just don't want to separate yourselves when you're that deep in the bush, 326 00:23:45.079 --> 00:23:51.319 which I totally understand, and I wouldn't want to either. Stay tuned 327 00:23:51.359 --> 00:23:53.759 for more sasquatch out to see. We'll be right back after these messages. 328 00:23:57.119 --> 00:24:00.319 Retelling this from what he told me, I have some notes written down, 329 00:24:00.440 --> 00:24:03.960 but I try to talk to him about it several times, so I know 330 00:24:04.039 --> 00:24:07.240 how it went down, so I'm not sitting here reading from a book or 331 00:24:07.279 --> 00:24:11.440 something written down. So he agrees, okay, fine, we'll just set 332 00:24:11.519 --> 00:24:15.400 up this little cabin, maybe start a fire, and eat some lunch. 333 00:24:15.680 --> 00:24:18.200 When that time rolls around, by then we should hear somebody. Someone should 334 00:24:18.200 --> 00:24:22.160 either be looking for us or someone should be coming by. Because hunting seasons, 335 00:24:22.200 --> 00:24:26.319 someone's bound to be by and that's the main trail. So they're really 336 00:24:26.359 --> 00:24:30.440 not all that worried. It's starting to get light out now and all that 337 00:24:30.440 --> 00:24:32.960 stuff. It was like, no big deal, kind of deal. So 338 00:24:33.079 --> 00:24:36.599 they get to the cabin and it's unlocked, but all the windows are boarded 339 00:24:36.680 --> 00:24:40.160 up to keep bears out and whatnot. So they go in check it out, 340 00:24:40.240 --> 00:24:41.240 make sure that nothing got in there, and tore it up, and 341 00:24:41.400 --> 00:24:45.519 it was in relatively good shape for what it was. It was just a 342 00:24:45.559 --> 00:24:51.400 shell with a woodstove and a quasi broken down cot from what Jonathan said, 343 00:24:51.559 --> 00:24:56.319 and the windows were intact but covered. There was just a single window on 344 00:24:56.359 --> 00:24:57.680 the back, he said, and a single one on the front, and 345 00:24:57.759 --> 00:25:02.839 this particular door, it was a relative of theirs that had built it a 346 00:25:02.880 --> 00:25:08.200 couple of decades before and ended up passing away and wasn't able to really make 347 00:25:08.200 --> 00:25:12.160 a trapping cabin of it. But it was all at the time he passed 348 00:25:12.359 --> 00:25:17.079 provisioned out and real nice. But over a couple of decades of sitting there 349 00:25:17.079 --> 00:25:21.319 and really no one using it out of respect for the family and whatnot, 350 00:25:21.880 --> 00:25:25.880 it was relatively untouched. So the woodstove worked great. There was a couple 351 00:25:25.920 --> 00:25:27.440 of rusted holes in the pipe, he said, but he made James, 352 00:25:27.480 --> 00:25:32.079 since James wanted to stay climb up on the roof to take the coffee can 353 00:25:32.160 --> 00:25:33.720 off the top of the stack. He was like, yeah, no problem, 354 00:25:33.880 --> 00:25:37.079 I'll do that part. And there was an upper portion of the stack 355 00:25:37.160 --> 00:25:41.119 with the China cap on it that he took with him. It's just a 356 00:25:41.160 --> 00:25:45.400 top two foot section of stove pipe with a China cap. So he goes 357 00:25:45.480 --> 00:25:48.880 up, he climbs up on there and he removes the coffee can and he's 358 00:25:48.920 --> 00:25:52.480 getting the trying to cap shovel down on there, and I laughed because I've 359 00:25:52.480 --> 00:25:56.759 been in his position to get screamed that out of the blue, he gets 360 00:25:56.799 --> 00:26:02.519 screamed at and whatever screens at him is sounded. It was directly behind him 361 00:26:02.880 --> 00:26:06.240 and it's just getting daylight. It really freaked him out, so he runs 362 00:26:06.279 --> 00:26:08.720 over the roof and jumps off in front of the door, turns around and 363 00:26:08.880 --> 00:26:11.960 runs in the door and slams it and puts the little bryce in front of 364 00:26:11.960 --> 00:26:17.400 the door, and Jonathan heard the screen. Jonathan already had a gun in 365 00:26:17.400 --> 00:26:19.559 his hand. He is like, what the hell is going on there? 366 00:26:21.319 --> 00:26:25.440 Now? The windows are boarded up, so it's pitch black in there outside 367 00:26:25.480 --> 00:26:30.319 of their headlamps and the woodstove they just lit, so they're sitting in the 368 00:26:30.400 --> 00:26:34.359 dark, and it's not much brighter outside and winter time Alaska, so they're 369 00:26:34.400 --> 00:26:40.200 really on edge. Because this screen was very close and Jonathan was going to 370 00:26:40.240 --> 00:26:45.920 the back window to see there's some spacing in between the slats used to board 371 00:26:45.000 --> 00:26:48.599 up the windows there, he said, as he was peeking through, all 372 00:26:48.599 --> 00:26:52.640 he could see was a little sliver and he can make out tree standing, 373 00:26:52.680 --> 00:26:56.720 and every once in a while he would see movement, but he couldn't because 374 00:26:56.759 --> 00:27:00.000 of the window pane and the difference between that and the covering the glass. 375 00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:04.319 He couldn't get close enough to the little slit to see through it. Outside 376 00:27:04.359 --> 00:27:08.000 of just little bits of movement here and there. They're super on edge. 377 00:27:08.319 --> 00:27:12.680 James is saying, hey, I think it's outside front door, and Jonathan's 378 00:27:12.680 --> 00:27:15.519 calm down and just screamed at you. You're worked up, you're getting a 379 00:27:15.519 --> 00:27:19.319 little emotional. Just settled down. James wasn't having that, and he goes, 380 00:27:19.359 --> 00:27:23.119 look, i'm a man. You've heard what I heard. That's a 381 00:27:23.119 --> 00:27:29.200 hairy man or something's not right. So they're discussing with each other. Let's 382 00:27:29.240 --> 00:27:32.640 just walk out on the trail with our guns and shoot it if we have 383 00:27:32.799 --> 00:27:36.839 to, but let's not stay stuck in here. Who wants to be pinned, 384 00:27:37.039 --> 00:27:38.920 because that's essentially what it was. They were pinned in this little place. 385 00:27:40.720 --> 00:27:44.200 Grant you, it's a cabin. It's somewhere to be outside of the 386 00:27:44.240 --> 00:27:48.440 barrier between the two. So they're discussing amongst themselves for a while and it 387 00:27:48.440 --> 00:27:52.279 gets deathly quiet and way off in the distance, they hear a snow machine 388 00:27:52.640 --> 00:27:56.559 and they're like, yes, okay, someone's going to be coming. Well 389 00:27:56.599 --> 00:28:02.920 listen, they're right maybe the twenty yards off the main trail. They're hunting 390 00:28:02.960 --> 00:28:06.559 trail, so they know whoever it is coming down that trail, that they 391 00:28:06.640 --> 00:28:11.920 feel very sure of so being sure of themselves. They're waiting and listening and 392 00:28:11.000 --> 00:28:15.720 it fades out. It's almost like it did a U turn and left, 393 00:28:15.839 --> 00:28:18.559 and they're like, yeah, okay, there's hope. We heard one. 394 00:28:18.640 --> 00:28:22.400 It's still early in the day. Let's stay calm, let's stay inside until 395 00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:27.039 we hear something get close. They can't see how the scream happened. They're 396 00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:32.240 not panic stricken, but they're very concerned. According to Jonathan, he said 397 00:28:32.759 --> 00:28:37.559 his hackles were up, but he wasn't scared. He was very hyper aware 398 00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:42.440 and ready to do whatever he had to do. They're waiting and waiting, 399 00:28:42.839 --> 00:28:45.920 and he wasn't sure how much time had passed. He said it had been 400 00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:51.559 at least an hour had passed. And they heard snow machine again, same 401 00:28:51.599 --> 00:28:56.079 distance, same direction. This time it didn't fade back out. It kept 402 00:28:56.079 --> 00:28:59.119 getting louder and louder. It's still at a distance, but they could tell 403 00:28:59.119 --> 00:29:03.759 it's closing the distance. They get their stuff ready and they're trying their best 404 00:29:03.839 --> 00:29:08.079 to open the door and look at it and not over expose themselves for something 405 00:29:08.119 --> 00:29:11.559 to snatch them. They do that a couple of times. It looks good. 406 00:29:11.720 --> 00:29:15.680 He steps out, looks up on the roof above him. Nothing going 407 00:29:15.720 --> 00:29:21.440 on there. It basically quieted now, so they calm down. Okay, 408 00:29:22.039 --> 00:29:25.680 the Harryman heard the snow machine. It took off from there. They hear 409 00:29:25.720 --> 00:29:29.039 the snow machine getting closer and closer, so they're like, hey, yeah, 410 00:29:29.119 --> 00:29:32.279 cool, let's let's get our stuff and we'll get on our trail. 411 00:29:32.279 --> 00:29:33.319 They cut them off at the pass, cut them off at the trail, 412 00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:37.599 so they just don't pass us there. They're agreeing to do that, and 413 00:29:37.640 --> 00:29:40.720 as they bust out the door and they're looking around getting up to the main 414 00:29:40.759 --> 00:29:45.079 trail so they're not overlooked, they heard a scream coming from the direction the 415 00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:48.839 snow machine was. The Hairyman screamed at the snow machinery. Now they were 416 00:29:49.279 --> 00:29:55.119 immediately petrified because of the loudness of the screen, and they're trying to stumble 417 00:29:55.200 --> 00:29:57.640 and make it to the trail. Meanwhile, this guy who was gingrew he 418 00:29:57.720 --> 00:30:03.559 calling along on a snow mashe and is now wide open, white knuckle flying 419 00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:07.039 past them. They didn't even get all the way to the and just how 420 00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:10.400 it played out was it would just be so horrible. I feel for those 421 00:30:10.480 --> 00:30:12.359 guys. Man, it must have been just made their heart sinks. So 422 00:30:12.680 --> 00:30:18.039 it goes by and it's loud. Those old even the new sleds, they're 423 00:30:18.160 --> 00:30:21.480 very loud. So the guy, whoever it was, they didn't think hurt 424 00:30:21.519 --> 00:30:26.039 them, and they definitely didn't think he saw them. So they scrambled back 425 00:30:26.039 --> 00:30:29.759 inside because this thing was just right over there screaming at the snow machine. 426 00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:33.799 So they ducked back inside and they slammed the door, and they're like, 427 00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:37.480 crap, maybe he was going away from town. Maybe he's got to come 428 00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:40.319 back this way to get back to town. There was another trail, but 429 00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:42.480 it's further north and way out of the way, so they're banking on this 430 00:30:42.519 --> 00:30:48.519 guy making it back past there where he was just screamed at going through on 431 00:30:48.599 --> 00:30:52.240 a snow machine. I could only imagine that. So they're tucked away. 432 00:30:52.359 --> 00:30:56.839 It's why they're eating some of their provisions and they're trying to figure out WTF. 433 00:30:57.240 --> 00:31:00.599 And he said at least two hours passed and it was probably as bright 434 00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:06.359 as it would be for the day, so that would roughly be between noon 435 00:31:06.480 --> 00:31:10.759 and two at that time of year, roughly going up north or whatever. 436 00:31:11.319 --> 00:31:15.079 So they're anticipating this is the brightest part of the day. Maybe we should 437 00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:21.440 hike as fast as we can back towards town and make tracks while it's still 438 00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:26.599 daylight. They knew of other cabins. They were about five six miles away 439 00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:30.559 though from the next protective shelter, and so they were literally about getting a 440 00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:36.119 jump on it. And so as they're discussing this, they hear the snow 441 00:31:36.160 --> 00:31:41.920 machine. They hear multiple snow machines. They're like, oh, yes, 442 00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:48.119 so they killed that plan. Now they're anticipating the snow machiner is getting closer 443 00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:52.079 and then getting out onto the trail. They want to minimize their exposure and 444 00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:56.880 screamed at them. Outside of the screaming, it wasn't like it was trying 445 00:31:56.880 --> 00:32:00.880 to get them, but it was actively being I would consider that aggressive someone 446 00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:06.000 screaming at me and making it very clear I'm unwelcome. It's all in perspective. 447 00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:10.359 So as the snow machiners are getting closer, their anxiety was building because 448 00:32:10.359 --> 00:32:14.599 they didn't want the same thing to happen. So they figured they're going to 449 00:32:14.680 --> 00:32:19.359 get out there a little sooner this time and be ready to defend themselves if 450 00:32:19.400 --> 00:32:22.400 they have to, and if not, they come. They jump on the 451 00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:24.680 snow machines they get the hell out of dodge. Just as they're about to 452 00:32:24.720 --> 00:32:29.240 go out the door, they hear the snow machines getting closer and closer, 453 00:32:29.480 --> 00:32:31.440 so they're more and more excited, and so they head out the door. 454 00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:35.559 They're like, now is the time to go. Let's just roll out. 455 00:32:36.039 --> 00:32:39.359 So they tread through their little trail and they get onto the main trail. 456 00:32:39.720 --> 00:32:44.000 Now, this whole time they got a total vision on trying to see the 457 00:32:44.000 --> 00:32:47.039 snow machiners through a little bit of the tree line. And as they're running 458 00:32:47.119 --> 00:32:52.240 up to the main trail. Now, once they got about halfway and it's 459 00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:54.359 only about twenty five yards roughly to the main trail, there are a good 460 00:32:54.400 --> 00:32:58.720 ten to twelve to fifteen yards into this little jot to get to the trail, 461 00:32:59.319 --> 00:33:04.079 and they hear can't something land behind them. They immediately stopped and turned 462 00:33:04.079 --> 00:33:08.240 around, and this thing appeared to have just jumped off the roof and landed 463 00:33:08.319 --> 00:33:14.319 behind them about half the distance from where they were to the cabin door. 464 00:33:14.359 --> 00:33:20.599 So now they're cut off from the cabin because of this hairyman. Immediately they 465 00:33:20.640 --> 00:33:22.359 turned, they got their rifles up. When they're backing up, they don't 466 00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:25.279 want to shoot. They want to get to the snow machiners that are coming. 467 00:33:27.319 --> 00:33:30.079 Now, the snow machiners are making progress as all this is going on, 468 00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:34.680 and so they're trotting backwards and saying you stay there, We're going to 469 00:33:34.720 --> 00:33:37.359 shoot you. You stay there, and they're speaking in you, bik, 470 00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:40.039 I can't I'm not flowing enough. So they're speaking of this thing in you 471 00:33:40.160 --> 00:33:45.119 bik, telling you you're not allowed to touch us, just whatever they had 472 00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:47.119 to say. And they get to the main trail and they hear the snow 473 00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:52.839 machiners coming, but they're slowing down way before, like a good fifty yards 474 00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:54.880 away, just around this little ben. According to what Jonathan said, just 475 00:33:54.920 --> 00:33:59.759 out of you. They're doing their thing inside, stepping down the path to 476 00:33:59.799 --> 00:34:01.920 get in the view of the snow machiners. They want them to know that 477 00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:06.440 they're there one way or another, even if it's to witness this thing attack 478 00:34:06.519 --> 00:34:08.880 them, just so someone knows. And so he said, as they were 479 00:34:08.920 --> 00:34:14.239 side shuffling, doing this weird shuffle to make a down trail, because snow 480 00:34:14.280 --> 00:34:16.679 machine trail is very narrow and if you step off that then your chest deep 481 00:34:16.679 --> 00:34:20.719 in snow, so you stay on the pack trail. So they're doing their 482 00:34:20.719 --> 00:34:23.639 little side step and thing, And he said one of the lead snow machines 483 00:34:23.760 --> 00:34:28.320 was just off the trail, and it wasn't like today, a one inch 484 00:34:28.440 --> 00:34:32.079 track back then was whoa Most were half inch little nubs on a track. 485 00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:37.000 You barely got traction. So when it went off the trail, it was 486 00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:40.000 stuck and it was going to take some man handling and get it up on 487 00:34:40.199 --> 00:34:45.320 the pack trail. They're doing a side shuffle and meanwhile this thing, it 488 00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:49.320 had turned and then ran to the back side of the cabin once once they 489 00:34:49.360 --> 00:34:53.079 started sidestepping and getting past there. From what he was saying is I'm trying 490 00:34:53.079 --> 00:34:57.920 to envision this in my mind. Where they were it was like a little 491 00:34:57.920 --> 00:35:00.800 bit of an se kind of curve, but it was open enough to where 492 00:35:00.840 --> 00:35:04.360 you could see where the people were, and they weren't that far but it 493 00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:06.960 was just a little bit of a little wiggle in the trail, so to 494 00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:08.840 speak. So he said, once they got to that little wiggle, they 495 00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:14.199 had lost sight of it because for one, went behind the cabin, and 496 00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:19.079 for two, there was more trees between them and that cabin. So they 497 00:35:19.079 --> 00:35:21.719 get over the people and they're like, holy crap, there's a Harryman over 498 00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:23.320 there. We were stuck in the cabin, and the one guy that was 499 00:35:23.320 --> 00:35:25.679 off the trail was like, yeah, I got these guys to come help. 500 00:35:27.400 --> 00:35:31.440 And thankfully it was two neighbors and another relative of Jonathan and James. 501 00:35:31.760 --> 00:35:36.519 So they were very familiar with each other and they knew. No one was 502 00:35:36.519 --> 00:35:39.760 making up anything. They knew each other. So I'm only laughing because I 503 00:35:39.760 --> 00:35:44.360 can put myself in their shoes. I really can. So they're trying to 504 00:35:44.360 --> 00:35:47.719 get this snow machine unstuck because they're going to need it to get all of 505 00:35:47.719 --> 00:35:51.800 them out of there. There's three snow machines. They weren't made for two 506 00:35:52.199 --> 00:35:54.280 riding back then, really, but they were going to make it happen. 507 00:35:54.960 --> 00:35:59.320 One of them dumps his sled to have less weight on a snow machine, 508 00:35:59.840 --> 00:36:04.079 and they pushed a sled off the trail and then pull the snow machine back 509 00:36:04.159 --> 00:36:07.239 up on And as they get the lead snow machine that was blocking the trail 510 00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:12.679 back on the trail, this thing screens from behind the cab and they hear 511 00:36:12.679 --> 00:36:15.559 it banging against this cabin. Boom, boom, and it's echoing through the 512 00:36:15.599 --> 00:36:19.760 small valley. He said, from one side to the other, who was 513 00:36:19.920 --> 00:36:23.960 echoing just cook boom, just repetitively. So it was very ominous. They 514 00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:29.159 were very anxious. Let's say, I don't want to say they were scared 515 00:36:29.199 --> 00:36:32.719 shitless, but let's just say they knew something bad was right over there. 516 00:36:32.800 --> 00:36:36.760 So they get it on there, they get it fired up, and now 517 00:36:36.800 --> 00:36:39.880 they're like, be ready to potentially shoot at this thing as we go by. 518 00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:44.599 We don't know what it's going to do. And as they're getting their 519 00:36:44.639 --> 00:36:46.519 little game plan because they don't want to have to go off track again, 520 00:36:47.280 --> 00:36:52.440 get stuck in deep snow right next to a Harry Man throwing stuff at him 521 00:36:52.480 --> 00:36:57.360 fair enough, so they start going and two uprighting on these little weak snow 522 00:36:57.440 --> 00:37:00.239 machines. I think they're like three and forty. You see back then something 523 00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:04.880 weak, not made torky, and we're packing a bunch of weight. But 524 00:37:04.960 --> 00:37:09.239 anyway, so they get moving and as they're coming around the one corner it's 525 00:37:09.320 --> 00:37:14.400 just basically a slight bend. It's not really like a ninety degree corner, 526 00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:17.199 but it's a slight bend, and the cabin comes into view a little better. 527 00:37:19.000 --> 00:37:22.400 They see it standing on top of that cabin. It's got that china 528 00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:25.159 cap piece of stuff he had just put on there, and it's hand and 529 00:37:25.320 --> 00:37:29.400 it's just standing and just doing this way and thing holding it, you know. 530 00:37:29.679 --> 00:37:32.480 He said he saw something similar with a chimpanzee holding the banana in the 531 00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:36.719 zoo, doing a little weird back and forth. But it was almost like, 532 00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:37.760 non, I see you can't put it on there kind of thing. 533 00:37:38.159 --> 00:37:42.519 That's what he took from it. It would have been a really weird sight 534 00:37:42.639 --> 00:37:45.599 seeing the hair man standing there just swind back and forth jiggling this thing. 535 00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:50.840 So they got by without instance. It screamed. Once they were out of 536 00:37:50.920 --> 00:37:52.960 sight of it. It's screamed. They could hear the scream over the wear 537 00:37:53.320 --> 00:37:58.440 or the snow machine, and they just use that as motivation to not stop. 538 00:37:59.119 --> 00:38:02.079 Now that's relatively minild. It could have been a lot worse for those 539 00:38:02.079 --> 00:38:07.920 two guys. Man, they say, you don't gotta go home, but 540 00:38:08.119 --> 00:38:42.000 you can't stay. And I don't want to be a world uppen. Try 541 00:38:42.159 --> 00:38:50.639 this job, that chart everything right back, Joy for me, Joy, 542 00:38:50.800 --> 00:39:12.519 stay right, come in right away inside and still states, suss still, 543 00:39:13.280 --> 00:39:57.960 study, stay stands side, stay still, SUSS games, still stays, 544 00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:07.039 Spies and things in fast us PS PSS