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Everyone. It's Tuesday, May the
third, twenty eleven, and you're listening

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to the Giant Bomb Cast. I'm
Ryan Davis joining me today, mister Patrick

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Kleppick. The cookies have been eaten. Bye, none other than mister Jeffrey

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Gerstmann. This was a horrible mistake. And then who wasn't in the room

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when all this happened, but mister
Brad Shoemaker, Thank god for that.

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Jeff got hungry and decided to break
open the now well expired Grandma's cookies that

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have been sitting in this room April
nineteen, April nineteen, but they live

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is guaranteed from printed date. That
was the day Mortal Kombat out and they

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killed these cookies. That was that
was their grand fatality. Yeah they were

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They were not good. Now there's
a time delay fatality on you. Yeah,

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now that you've eaten these Grandma's cookies. Gross. They were gross when

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they were new. Yeah, we've
covered this. I don't know that they've

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gotten any more gross. But those
cookies aren't bad Grandma's cookies, Yeah,

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they're pretty bad. These these ones
specifically, I haven't I don't know from

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past experience. I don't really remember
fresh cookies is being bad, but these

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these ones were specifically. Are you
gonna get fresh from the factory Grandma's Cookies

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factory factory fresh Organics. They there's
some Maiden Plano Texas just cheap tasting about

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Grandma's cookie. They're like, it's
just like they kind of half acid on

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the cholcolate chips. It's like all
it's grit. It just tastes like a

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little heavy on the shortening. It's
a phone number on here. Yeah,

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you're gonna give him a collig a
piece of your mind. Your cookies are

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always crazy. We can go confront
them at that confection. Grandma's Cookies has

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a booth. M it's gotta be
just like a fourth level subsidiary though.

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That's that's no, there isn't even
a Grandma that is that. It's like

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it's it's just one step away from
the like where they used to keep the

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Doritos, three ds and and fritola. Is it's the front for the CIA.

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I mean everyone knows that, so
chasing all the way. Basically,

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are you saying that the CIA introduced
Grandma's Cookies into the hood? Yeah,

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exactly, government expiracy that you got
an email and your sound effects over right

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over there, saying stop talking about
that for alright, change of subject.

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Every while you're dead. Brian Cox
won't allow us to talk any further about

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Grandma's cookies. It's talk about video
games. Video games are delicious. Can't

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eat video games, all right,
she says, So, Patrick Kleppick,

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video games, get it already.
This is great laying yeah things why I

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died down a little bit after Mortal
Kombat and Portal. So I went back

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after you mean after Mortal Kombat,
like Mortal Kombat is over or something,

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Mortal Monday's over. The further way
you get away from that April nineteenth man

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the worst, the cook away from, and the stayer the combat, because

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mortal combat is never over. No, I'm still playing this story mode of

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that. But I went back and
I wanted to finish dead Space Extraction because

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I never did that, which is
that it's the shooter or it's the wee

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ones playing it on the POS three, Yeah, to play clearly. Yeah,

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it's it's really well done. I
was a little I was hoping that

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I'm able to play it like with
my fiance, but it is not a

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girlfriend friendly like shooter at all like
it uses terms of uses all. No,

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he uses all the fucking buttons on
that move controller, like every single

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one is used for a different function. I thought it was just shoot.

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No shoot, Like there's weapon,
you gotta like rotate it to do the

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whole rotated it holds circle. That's
like a melee attack. There's like a

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million things going on in that game. But you really just by the halfway

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through, I was just shooting.
I just I just have for us to

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say, like shoot dude. Seems
like that's still the main directive here.

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Yeah, but you still have to
do other things like it'll it'll, it'll.

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It's not just like optimal optional like
oh if you if you do this

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this way, you're gonna get through
with the best ending or anything. No,

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but it'd be really boring if you
weren't doing the other things. Okay,

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so I finished, there would be
like House to Dead. Yeah,

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nobody wants that those games got boring. Yeah. Typing the Dead was good,

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though, It's true. More need
more typing of games or word packs

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for the existing ones, you know, just a Dreamcast download to add more

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words to typing, because there's so
many more words now there isn't their PC

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version of that. Oh yeah,
they put it out in Japan. It'd

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be a good ipaid game. Yeah, there's just a lot of it in

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English, though there was always like
an English alternate. I don't know if

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that. Yeah, it'd be clutch
trying to play tight in the Dead in

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Japanese. That's not No, that's
not easy, especially without a Japanese keyboard,

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like knowledge of Japanese. Yeah,
exactly, Like that's a double wammy.

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But just stacks it up triple whammys. Having both of those. No,

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no, type of good. But
that would be a hell of a

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way to learn Cono though. I'm
sure you are, at least if you

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already knew it as a suthlement.
You're just saying, like people who want

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to learn how to No, no, no, don't start with that.

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But just step one, what's in
the dead Once you have the basics down,

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if you sit down and do that, you know, I'm sure you

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could. Yeah, yeah, bright, you've you've you've taken Japanese courses ages

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ago, but you've actually you've done
you've done that work. I learned,

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like I don't know, a hundred
or something. You could play Typing of

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the Dead, maybe maybe it is. It's slowly seeping out of my head.

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You should try. Do you think
that's like the radioactive de kay I'm

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giving off Japanese ions? Do you
think it's like the key first step learn

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Japanese? Like you think like a
live class like that sort of definitely helped,

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that's key. It definitely helped.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I

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mean immersion, you know, just
getting in it sure and having to speak

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it is the way to go.
So you just living in Japan, Yes,

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you want to yelling back at your
anime tapes? You want to learn

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Japanese? Just moved to Japan.
That's my tip for a tip. Do

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you want to learn Japanese? That's
pretty reasonable man. Yeah. And you

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couldn't do it and teach English,
yes, because everybody can do that apparently.

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Wait, why is that some sort
of scam or people like I've seen

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a lot of people go to teach
English that I would not trust teaching anything.

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I'm not really sure how that works. I think they're coming up short

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like kidneys and ships. It's it's
definitely not a scam, but the barrier

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to entry is not as high as
you would think. It's like, you

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don't just not being able to teach
well, you don't have to. Well,

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they're different programs. I'm sure they
vary, but a lot of them

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you don't even have to speak Japanese
to do. It. Isn't like one

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for sure. I like the magazine
I thought at one point about it playing

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Jet. The Black Lifestyle magazine is
also running. They they're teaching Japanese people

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how to read JET. It's smart, expanding their readers exactly. I get

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it. This is this is the
future of print journalism. I gather.

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The big downside of JET is that
you have no very little control over where

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you end up. So probably not
Tokyo a lot of people I know.

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Yet you end up on the countryside, you end up in like some tiny

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town, end up ten thousand people
out and like up in the mountains or

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something. And then isn't that like
how like Japanese doc Hollywood begins? Yeah,

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that sounds great. One of them
teaches you how to become a samurai

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just so you can stand up for
yourself, and then you don't learn how

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to drift. I'm in where like
jet dot JP? Where do I go

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for this stuff? I know?
I think it's a US based program.

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Denzel wash copy Jet. Yeah,
it's in the back. It's like make

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sure you do check the right box
because like one box is just subscribed to

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Jet and the other one is like
go to Japan and if you check the

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wrong one, it's I think it
would we can be a really I think

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they would just be like shock,
entirely separate cards for those things because it's

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such a completely different interests just cross
over that exactly. It's trying to save

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money. You even put one xt
to you the other I'm not friendly.

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Yeah, okay, I get it. Going green. That seems like Jets

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agenda. Yeah, so is this
the last of the is this year?

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You're clean up on dead Space two? Content? Patrick? What Severed wasn't

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very good? Was I heard?
Really? I didn't get around finishing though.

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I haven't why. I was finishing
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the characters from Extraction in it,
Gabe, so I figured I would finish

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that before doing that. I mean, it's only I bought it. It's

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only like one an hour and a
half or something like. I played about

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halfway through it and just I don't
know what happened. It's it's more,

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wasn't it wasn't a lot of the
same. It was the same areas,

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a mix of old new. It
starts out with some new areas, but

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then you immediately go into like the
ending levels of Dead Space two, and

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it's a lot of Yeah I remember
this part part sucked first time, and

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it's still kind of sucks. The
ending areas of Dead Space two. That

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seems like a horrible like spot to
repeat. I mean, just like the

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minds and stuff. You know,
it's not giving away into the story.

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And presumably you've played. Yeah,
I wasn't say, they just make you

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go through the machine again. Yes, straight, It starts out that way.

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Two needles, the sime Oh god, no, no needles, man,

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Yeah that was Patrick. Anything else
really just kind of chucking through Mortal

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Kombat. I just finished Mortal Kombat
one of the Mortal Combat So you've beaten

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Goro. Yeah, I learned how
to I learned the game quickly introduced you'll

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learn how to be cheap. Yeah, jump kicks, well, I'll him

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out jump kicks. And just like
apparently if you do the high fireball with

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Luke King like, Goro will just
jump into it every goddamn time. Check

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on you do that low fire Ball
with Luke k Hang over and over again.

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That's the first time though, Yeah, dude, that second time,

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holy shit, that's with raiding right
the second Yeah. Yeah, I finished

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the story motive, which is different
about the second time. He's just harder

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and you're using more of a us
raiding. I mean it felt like he

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had more moves. I'm not sure. Yeah, well, something was different

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because it was way harder. Yeah, it is a harder fight. I

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think just show Kon just stuffs more
of your attacks. Just yeah, you

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know you're talking about that resist that
like do that. It's a yellow it's

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like yellow resist the move the twenty
five percent damage against you, yep.

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Yeah, I mean he still takes
the damage. So it's basically like rage

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from mca vers DC. Yeah.
I mean they do take the damage,

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but still, I mean, there's
there any consistency to that or is that

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just it's completely random only face girl, I wasn't able to figure it out

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some slight Well, the consistency,
the lack of consistency comes from them kind

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of giving you a break and sometimes
letting it work. But like when you

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get to the top of the challenge
tower and you're fighting like Goro and Kataro

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and show Kan kind of all at
once. They will resist everything every single

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time if they are able to.
It seems like it's so it seems like

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sometimes they give you a break elsewhere
in the game, but uh yeah,

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when you get to the top of
the challenge tower that it just becomes like

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you have to wait for them to
do specific stuff and you know that they're

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open to being hit with like scorpions, spear and in my case, and

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you can take advantage of them that
way. So it's just like che you

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you're playing cheaply in a different way. It's like pattern memorization. It's like

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you're playing a shooter exactly what that
fight turned into. Yeah, it was

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just like, all right, I
know which ones he'll take an upper cut

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off of. Yeah, so as
soon as he does that, I'm gonna

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tell far behind him. Yeah.
Well, for for me, with Raydon,

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it was all about like just kind
of basically doing I guess it's like

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it's whatever the triangle or why button
is that. I don't know if that's

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front or rear. But with Raydon, you can do like two punches from

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that into the like shock grab thing
and he falls down after that, See,

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then you just kind of jump over, jump, punch, punch,

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punch, grab again. So I
was just doing that over and over and

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to fight. And no, he'll
eventually because because you're so close to him

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that he'll try to attack, which
then makes him unable to resist your strike.

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But you're coming in so fast that
you punched through it. And once

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I got really good at get that
and the timing on that, it wasn't

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that hard. But I ended up
probably playing that last fight like thirty or

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forty times ye, good old yeah, exploiting the AI, yeah, exactly,

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long, long lasting Mortal combat tradition. Ye. So so yeah,

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I mean there's a history of bad
MK bosses, yeah, well purposeful and

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there's a history of like really terrible
MKI. Yeah. So this actually is

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much better than the previous games.
The story of fights are much more believable

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in this, Like, could you
have made these characters in a way that

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it would have like built off of
what the game had taught you thus far

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just about kind of the basic gameplay
systems? Probably? Do you think you

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could have made it compelling and like
enough of a jump in difficulty, uh

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for these fights without kind of resorting
to this because the main complaint that I've

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heard from people it's not that it's
tough, it's just cheap. It's just

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that it's like it has no bearing
on anything that you've done. It's it's

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it's it's you learning, like what
what one specific thing works against this for

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this fight, and then doing it
over and over again. Yeah, it's

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not that the other stuff doesn't work, it's just that these guys kill you

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too fast for that to matter.
They do so much damage, like shau

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Khan's X ray does over half of
your life. If you try to play

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them like conventional fights, you just
won't last. You have to play very

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defensively and just no windows at the
same time, like Shaukan's X ray is

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this really slow wind up jump with
the hammer you can like every single time.

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I mean, let's just illustrate how
right fucking savage these guys. Yeah,

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but you know they're not playable characters
for a reason. So yeah,

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I don't know, like some of
that stuff's a little ridiculous, but it's

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it's just it seems like like in
you know, in one way, like

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sure it is kind of this call
back to MKA past, but but it's

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called back. It's a call back
to like something really dumb understanding in the

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Challenge Tower because you're asking for like
absurd Yeah, but like in the story

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mode, it comes across as a
little a little much. They do have

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they do have difficulty settings for the
story mode if you if you want to

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go now, but it's like like
when you can do most of it on

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the nosicuilty, like you really want
to scale back just for that one boss

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fights. It's the only consistent thing
that I've heard plaints about from from people

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playing it. I don't know,
I just wanted to get Yeah, it's

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just it's a mindset thing, like
you have to you have to kind of

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change everything that you have learned up
to that point in all these other fights

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and just adjust for for these specific
boss fights. And it's not that much

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fun. Please allow me to register
my trepidation about the ending of those story

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mode and then that's all I'm gonna
say. What I'm talking about, Well,

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you know, after MK three comes
MK four, So I understand why

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why you would know insofar is like
what the story of the next enage,

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just what it looks like they're setting
up for the next one. I'm just

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like, oh no, no,
well you always have this one. Yeah,

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like you said, this small combat
will last you forever. Yes,

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new characters coming. Oh he has
that confirmed? Yeah, they've They went

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ahead and set up a Twitter account
for Scarlett and then a couple of the

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guys on the team have pointed to
it, and the other official accounts for

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like Johnny Cage and stuff like that
have been like following it or interacting with

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it. Which for those I following
the plot, that's Red leading Ninja the

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Red Lady, she totally new?
Has she ever totally new? It's a

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palette glitch from MK two that would
sometimes make Melina or Katana show up in

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Red. So it was just one
of those like yo, that's a separate

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character, preventing them from having to
design any characters on their own, just

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like yeah, exactly, turn rumors
and weird jokes into into characters. So

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they're doing looks like they're doing that, So I imagine if that's the case,

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then there's that interview that they did. There's an interview that that showed

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up in like CVG for like half
an hour before getting pulled where they said

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it was going to be Scarlet and
Ken. She is he blind? I

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would I would assume he would be
passed into blind. He's never not been

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blind. But you know this is
this would be him showing up in the

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storyline much earlier than he normally does. Why they might omit? They do

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tell they didn't actually end up so
he actually was called blind Kenchi for a

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while before they realized, like,
dude's got a blindfold on, it's obvious

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he's blind. Oh wait, they
never they never actually did call him blind

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kell. I thought that was like
his official name, like on the Seli

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screen. No, no, okay, I think they eventually just went that

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it's just catching right right. They
do. They do tell a lot of

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origin stories with that story mode,
Yeah, they do, so they cover

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a lot of ground. How do
you feel about the treatment of the stories

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of mks or one, two,
and three. I never thought of cabal

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as, I mean, can we
are we're just talking frankly here. I

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think it does matter, right,
I never thought of him as you continue

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to bitch about it. Who never
struck me as a police type. I

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feel like that's like totally new information. I don't think they ever said that

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was never part of his backs.
I think he was ever like a Striker's

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buddy and a copy. They probably
had to find some way to work him

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into this story. Like whatever he
was, he was a like an Earth

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champion in like a dude of import
at least, like he was a black

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dragon. He was. They addressed
some of that stuff in the in the

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story, but yeah, like at
the start of that, he is straight

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up a cop with Striker doing cops
stuff in a pail and a ponytail.

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Cops with ponytail. Think about that
well, concerning how Striker rolls, Yeah,

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yeah, Striker cleaned it up.
Man turned that hat around to the

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front. He's looking presentable, got
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Yeah, yeah, I don't.
I don't know that that. Yes,

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that's that's alteration of the backstory of
Cabal is necessarily worth getting up in arms

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over. Probably it's probably didn't even
bear discussion, But here we are.

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Yeah, this is a mortal common
mythology in general. Is where we've ended

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up is actually talking about the viability
of rain as we're totally earnest about this

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whole thing. Video games, Yeah, video games are all right, bullshit

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calling you out, Oh man,
all right, fuck this, I'm flipping

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this table over going outside right now
and settling this games are bad discuss I

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think video games are good. I
think you're wrong. Debate of the century.

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Finally we're finally getting out of the
serious topics on this podcast. Prove

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it, and I'll prove it.
I've improved by having the debate. But

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debate, what are you talking about
talking about? Prove that video games are

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good? Mortal Kombat. We were
talking about it earlier. He's really got

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you there, like that game a
lot, it's all right. Saying it's

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just all right, Yeah, we'll
see that already invalidates your opinion video games

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are bad. Yeah, well they're
not good. Oh you're so you're just

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changing your position now. Yeah,
it's the worst debate of every being the

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worst debate video You really committed to
games, it's not worth talking about.

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So I played. If they were
better, i'd, you know, put

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more heart into you know, maybe
I should just side with you because I

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played through Fable three this week.
Yeah, video games aren't so good.

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Wasn't that totally by accident? Yeah, so I guess you had played something

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before. Yeah, I played like
about a third of the three sixty version

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when it came out before realizing that
I didn't want to play it ever again

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it's not it's not great. And
then they settle on a copy of the

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PC version, which is not up
to the seventeenth so we actually I can't

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review it. But let's just talk
about Fable three generally in a non platform

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specific way, regardless of regardless of
what platform it appears on. Why or

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let's say, you know, just
because three sixty version, I don't even

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know, maybe the PC version is
a totally different game. It's not.

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I need to know Fable three is
not good. I need to know why

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now, because you had a copy
of the Xbox version six months ago,

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which has languished somewhere because they sent
it over and I was like, well,

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I want to I want to see
what I want to see what's up.

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I just built this PC and you
can see what's up in like thirty

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minutes. Keep going, because I
was thinking illusions working on my laptop and

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just had Fable running all weekend and
then whoops and just kind of like it

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just kind of accidentally operated the controller
to the conclusion of the game. Pretty

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much Okay, yeah, yeah,
that actually pretty pretty well represents my experience

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with Fable three as well. Yeah, man, what a disappointing game.

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It's uh, you know, like
even if even taking the uh you know,

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the qualified experience of Fable two into
consideration, Yeah, which it had

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its problem like even as someone who
really enjoyed Fable two, Like, yeah,

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it had it had issues. There
were things about it that didn't work

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as well as they should have or
as advertised. It's a Fable three is

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a game that feels even though it's
not. It's a game that feels very

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wide open. When they first kind
of present you with the world and this

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list of quests and you're like,
man, there's gonna be a lot more

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like this. I bet this is
great. And then some of it's really

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inventive kind of standalone stuff like where
you're going into the weird RPG world is

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that is the high point of the
entire game exactly like commediately, and and

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you start thinking like, oh,
there's gonna be a lot more stuff like

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this, Like nope, there's this
stuff, and then we're going to funnel

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you into this very tight path through
the entire third act of the game.

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Uh, And occasionally you out to
go finish up any of this side stuff

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that you didn't do, but by
the time you get to this point,

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you will have done all of the
side stuff that actually matters. It's just

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it's actually like well done. When
they do the shift, it just feels

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so unearned. It just like you
don't feel like your your hero's quest has

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gone on for long enough. Like
yeah, exactly, like the whole the

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whole point of the game, you
know, like like building up this game

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the game like you're gonna become king, yeah, and then you become king

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and then everything kind of sucks after
that. Yeah, everything kind of sucks

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during it. I thought like even
to suck before that. Yeah, I

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guess it's who feels like it's not. It feels like it runs out of

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consoles. The whole interlude on the
Southern Continent felt very place like shoehorned that

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end just to like kind of draw
it out a little bit. Yeah,

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before you before you spend the rest
of the game sitting on a throne hitting

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buttons to make decisions, right,
uh yeah, And it's just it seems

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like maybe you know, whoever was
designing that game, you know, the

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ending of it, I feel like
they really wanted to try and teach players

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a lesson about the way the world
works. It was like, either you

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can be popular or you can save
everybody, but sometimes you have to make

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tough decisions, like they wanted their
moral choices to carry weight, But everyone

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who plays games is so hardwired to
get the best ending that I feel like,

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that's why if so many people are
so frustrated by the way that game

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concludes, is because to actually get
that best ending, Like I alad to

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leave the game on overnight and then
you need to you need you need a

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bunch of money at the end of
that game. And I'd been buying property

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all along and was still broke just
from buying and doing upkeep on property and

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stuff. So I was like,
it sounds like a real boring way to

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choose a you know, moral choice. Well you're not supposed to. Like,

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if you make the tough the choices
that make you unpopular with the people,

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it's a lot easier to get that
gold. But they were just so

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over committed to try teach that lesson
and too like that whole device as a

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game mechanic, They didn't there wasn't
the weight leading up to that to justify

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it. They didn't convey that to
the player. Yeah, it doesn't really

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well at all. Yeah. On
the philosophical level, I feel like they

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just created a false dichotomy because in
every single case it was the unpopular decision

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versus the versus like the like the
profitable one or whatever. I mean,

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Yeah, it was it was like
those you can either you can either be

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loved and sacrifice everybody, or you
can be hated and save everybody. Yeah,

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like it was. It was just
like an either war proposition. There

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no shades of gray there at exactly. And it felt like like it was

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a very basic lesson and like how
the how politics works, right, you

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know, or something just really shallow
like that, and and it's like the

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good intentions, but then they got
really gamy with the actual and they were

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just they were gonna implement this thing. They were gonna make this thing happen,

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and they give you then they give
you the out of like I'm gonna

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let this game sit until I have
about seven million gold here right before I

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take on the last mission or the
last set of the last day of kingly

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duties or whatever, of doing all
the stuff and then just reverting at the

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last second, Yeah, or you
do all the popular things, which puts

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you very far on the hole from
a gold perspective, make it impossible to

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save everyone theoretically unless you do what
I did, which is like, let's

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sit for about nine hours just accumulating
gold from all the properties you've purchased.

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Uh, and then you can save
everybody and be popular and you win and

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you also win, and you win, like except for the part where you

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played Fable three, except for the
part where Yeah, except for the part

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where like I left table three running
for about thirty hours or whatever whatever it

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was over the weekend I've seen.
Yeah. The thing that I remember just

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being really terrible about that that section
is just no, it gives you no

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sense of how long that period is. Yeah, I feel like it's but

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it but it remains true. And
there were some people back then and even

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recently it said, like, how
you how can you say that it's a

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big funnel towards the end game,
they give you plenty of opportunities to break

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out of it, blah blah blah. But the thing is is you only

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know that by by looking at a
fact or like basically like you know that

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these are people telling you when it
was me playing through it the week before

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it came out when nobody had played
it. Yeah, and just stumbling through

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that. And it goes from day
one twenty one to day one, but

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at that point you've cross the point
of an overturn. It's totally want,

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totally crazy. I kind of want
to put this just because it sounds like

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it seems like an interesting experiment.
They just completely failed on every level.

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Yeah, it almost feels like the
design doc sounded really promising and just the

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implementation of it just been like it
almost it almost feels like they cut stuff

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out at the end, because the
pace accelerates very noticeably, from like a

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two week interval to a couple of
months to all of a sudden, like

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six months passes in the blank of
an eye, and you know it's there's

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a guy in place who says,
like, you know, hey, just

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you need to sign this thing so
that you know how many people are gonna

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die in the coming battle, and
this might be the time to put some

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gold in your treasury, uh before
you sign this if you're not cool with

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with what's going down, which is
like they're very clear like this is the

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time you can go. You can
still leave right there and go do more

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side stuff and let it sit if
you need more money. But it also

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says you have one hundred and twenty
one days left, so it's it's it

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doesn't communicate how so if you don't, if you're not like if if you

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don't already know that going in,
Like it almost happened to me. I

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looked at a fact like right before
that point, just kind of out of

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boredom, like, oh how much
how much Fable three is left? How

406
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much more do I have to endure
here? At this point it's like,

407
00:26:33.559 --> 00:26:38.240
oh god, oh apparently it'll be
hours of me letting this controller sit here,

408
00:26:40.240 --> 00:26:41.519
with me running into a wall over
and over again so that it,

409
00:26:41.640 --> 00:26:45.039
you know, keeps going or whatever. And because then because then there's the

410
00:26:45.039 --> 00:26:49.599
whole like with the weird busted passage
of time idea, yeah, where where

411
00:26:49.640 --> 00:26:53.000
time is still passing, where you've
right where you're you're sitting there watching the

412
00:26:53.039 --> 00:26:56.039
sun rise and set, but it
doesn't actually take days away from it is

413
00:26:56.119 --> 00:27:00.559
a day still a day. It's
it's just a yeah, it disconnected.

414
00:27:00.559 --> 00:27:04.200
It just that, yeah, the
end of that game is really disconnected.

415
00:27:04.200 --> 00:27:07.799
And they don't they don't give you
the right kind of feedback. And on

416
00:27:07.880 --> 00:27:10.279
top of that the character that's giving
you this advice of like, hey,

417
00:27:10.319 --> 00:27:14.559
you might want to like put money
in the bank is a jerk who wants

418
00:27:14.559 --> 00:27:15.920
you to do all the bad things
and keep all the money for yourself.

419
00:27:17.000 --> 00:27:19.279
So you've already kind of like or
I gotten a point where I was tuning

420
00:27:19.319 --> 00:27:21.960
him out and it was like,
I don't want to do anything this guy

421
00:27:22.000 --> 00:27:26.400
recommends because he is a bad person. So yeah, I don't know a

422
00:27:26.400 --> 00:27:30.160
lot of a lot of big flaws
at the end of that game. And

423
00:27:30.319 --> 00:27:33.200
it just feels like you kind of
you can kind of see. I feel

424
00:27:33.240 --> 00:27:36.640
like I see what they were trying
to do. It feels like the halfway

425
00:27:36.680 --> 00:27:41.440
point in like the Lionhead development process. I feel like they were forced to

426
00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:45.440
shift that game well before they had
to turn it into a game, before

427
00:27:45.480 --> 00:27:49.000
they had figured out right there is
there's clearly this this sort of like they

428
00:27:49.079 --> 00:27:51.920
knew at the end of Fable two, like in the third game, you're

429
00:27:51.920 --> 00:27:53.400
gonna be king, We're gonna you're
gonna be that's gonna actually manifest and how

430
00:27:53.440 --> 00:27:57.400
that's gonna be. We'll have this
this, you know, we'll have the

431
00:27:57.519 --> 00:28:00.759
focus of the gameplay shift at a
certain point, and like they hadn't really

432
00:28:00.799 --> 00:28:04.000
figured out the beats of all of
it, but at some point something that

433
00:28:04.039 --> 00:28:08.279
you guys, gott to fucking ship
a game for Holiday ten, and uh,

434
00:28:08.799 --> 00:28:11.559
you know, this is what they
had at the time. It's kind

435
00:28:11.559 --> 00:28:15.240
of what it feels like at least. Yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't

436
00:28:15.240 --> 00:28:18.960
feel like a fully formed idea.
It's a Fable three for the Xbox three

437
00:28:18.039 --> 00:28:22.319
sixty PC versus coming out on the
seventeenth. Look out for a PC version.

438
00:28:22.359 --> 00:28:26.640
I wonder if that one will be
any different. Look forward to coverage

439
00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:30.640
on tapon dot com. Hey guys, what's up? Remember that list of

440
00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:41.160
things that don't bear discussion? Yesable
three got it, along with Stories three

441
00:28:41.960 --> 00:28:44.720
three. But out of great great
voice acting in that game. Oh it

442
00:28:44.799 --> 00:28:47.960
did just get Yeah, Oh dude, I mean the atmosphere, the writing,

443
00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:52.000
the voice acting, like everything that
was not the design elements about it,

444
00:28:52.119 --> 00:28:55.400
you know, everything that was not
O this game stuff, everything that

445
00:28:55.519 --> 00:28:59.319
was everything that was not related to
how it is mechanically put together and conveys

446
00:28:59.319 --> 00:29:03.160
information you interact with it like all
though, But but yes, the part

447
00:29:03.160 --> 00:29:07.839
where it's a game is lacking.
But stuff, all of the all the

448
00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:11.519
you know, snarky British Earth.
This was an interactive comic book, it

449
00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:15.640
was a motion comic. How about
if it was a better game? Yeah,

450
00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:18.319
okay, but it got me thinking
just about like kind of the the

451
00:29:18.480 --> 00:29:26.680
nature of of games and rewards in
games and stuff that we've all gone soft,

452
00:29:27.559 --> 00:29:32.400
Like games aren't games. They're not
they're not challenging products anymore. They're

453
00:29:32.440 --> 00:29:36.319
they're thrill rides. They're they're they're
designed for you to see them through to

454
00:29:36.319 --> 00:29:41.359
the completion. And when they give
you these options of like, yeah,

455
00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:42.720
you can do this, but it's
less than ideal, Like there's gonna be

456
00:29:42.759 --> 00:29:47.000
some segment of the population that goes
like, well, if I have to

457
00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:49.119
go out of my way to make
sure that I get the best possible ending,

458
00:29:49.519 --> 00:29:53.599
I will then go do that,
no matter how like weird and ridiculous

459
00:29:53.599 --> 00:29:57.599
it is, and and just well
they don't they don't make the bad choices

460
00:29:57.599 --> 00:30:02.200
of the great choices impelling. That's
a really big problem for game designers is

461
00:30:02.279 --> 00:30:03.759
trying like they want to do good
side and bad side, but you always

462
00:30:03.799 --> 00:30:07.480
see that people do the bad side
or the gray side their second play through,

463
00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:11.920
which isn't what they want to because
at that point you've experienced the story,

464
00:30:11.079 --> 00:30:14.680
but it's hard to make like you'd
like to see. It's a game

465
00:30:14.720 --> 00:30:18.960
that makes being the bad guy like
more almost a more enjoyable game experience,

466
00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:22.200
right, Like you should suffer,
but then but then well you want to

467
00:30:22.680 --> 00:30:26.359
do that like Fabel does handicap,
Like if you if you are the good

468
00:30:26.359 --> 00:30:30.119
guy, then you need that much
more money because you're spending money, you

469
00:30:30.160 --> 00:30:33.519
know, building schools and crap like
that. Like they let you, they

470
00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:37.160
let you cheat out of that essentially, Like that's some way. Basically,

471
00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:41.880
I think if they had removed the
ability to save everybody and like made it

472
00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:45.880
that hard either or that would have
been a much stronger Yeah, exactly,

473
00:30:45.960 --> 00:30:49.160
there's no way out of this either
your decision. Either you can have people

474
00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:53.160
like you or you can save them
or you know some some but pretty much

475
00:30:53.759 --> 00:30:56.839
Fallout does it that where like you
can you can be as horrible as you

476
00:30:56.839 --> 00:30:59.880
want, but if you just give
a dude in the desert a water by

477
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:03.000
all the completely switched in your karma. Yeah, so they they don't,

478
00:31:03.079 --> 00:31:06.920
Like I think developers don't want to
have people commit to those because yeah,

479
00:31:06.920 --> 00:31:10.920
because no one wants to play forty
hours of a game totally screwed up.

480
00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:12.559
Yeah, yeah, so they always
it's it's why you can, you know,

481
00:31:12.759 --> 00:31:15.680
change your dog into different breeds over
and over again. And also they're

482
00:31:15.720 --> 00:31:19.480
like, oh, yeah, that's
why you can pay for haircuts in video

483
00:31:19.519 --> 00:31:25.119
games because you've gone and I totally
screwed up, Like, yeah, I

484
00:31:25.160 --> 00:31:29.200
completely be voted to buy real hair
cuts exactly. I completely messed this up.

485
00:31:29.279 --> 00:31:32.359
I didn't want the Faehawk after all. It's uh, I wanted the

486
00:31:32.400 --> 00:31:34.839
Afro totally different kind of game,
but Infamous did a pretty good job of

487
00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:40.200
incentivizing both styles of play and then
also kind of locking you into one because

488
00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:42.200
like if you played the good side, you got like the powers that you

489
00:31:42.279 --> 00:31:45.599
got were more precise, you know, they focused on like sort of searchical,

490
00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:49.000
yeah, precision, Whereas the bad
side got you a bunch of powers

491
00:31:49.000 --> 00:31:52.559
that were just like like an en
mass destructive, you know, blew everything

492
00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:55.920
up, and once you went down
one of those paths, you had to

493
00:31:55.920 --> 00:31:59.200
stick with it. So like they
were offering different styles of play there.

494
00:31:59.240 --> 00:32:01.519
It's like what if you got like
fifteen hours in or whatever on that game

495
00:32:01.519 --> 00:32:05.680
and then realize that, like the
story wasn't going the way you wanted it

496
00:32:05.720 --> 00:32:10.720
to I think part of that,
that's part of because you want to force

497
00:32:10.759 --> 00:32:14.759
players to do that, but then
if they don't like the way it's going,

498
00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:17.599
and I think you know that there
are like, like I'd really like

499
00:32:17.680 --> 00:32:21.440
to see the percentages of players that
are willing to play through a game twice

500
00:32:21.480 --> 00:32:24.160
to like experience it from a different
perspective or whatever. And how many people

501
00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:27.440
just like, well, I'm gonna
play this once or how much is that

502
00:32:27.480 --> 00:32:30.119
really just they want the achievements for
the other side as opposed to like actually

503
00:32:30.200 --> 00:32:35.880
seeing what likes are from the other
side, I like from a gameplay perspective

504
00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:38.279
or like from a storytelling telling perspective. I'm kind of over it, Like

505
00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:43.640
I'd rather I'd rather these guys just
focus there and he's on on one really

506
00:32:43.680 --> 00:32:51.559
good one exactly yea, because the
choices always feel false and I'll always just

507
00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:53.759
find the like, what's the breaking
point in this story where we're gonna have

508
00:32:53.759 --> 00:32:57.480
to save the game so I can
where does it fork? Yeah? Yeah,

509
00:32:57.519 --> 00:32:59.880
exactly where? Like Okay, I'll
have to roll back a couple of

510
00:32:59.880 --> 00:33:01.400
hours and then I can get to
this point and I can see what all

511
00:33:01.480 --> 00:33:05.119
this guy's stuff. It's just it's
it's more about just like I want to

512
00:33:05.160 --> 00:33:07.680
see the content that I paid for, and that stuff feels kind of scrolled

513
00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:13.079
away into these little side things,
and you know, there's for bigger games.

514
00:33:13.119 --> 00:33:15.759
I guess there's something to be said
for the idea of I saw this

515
00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:20.319
thing that most people didn't see and
it was awesome. Yeah, but if

516
00:33:20.359 --> 00:33:22.319
these games are, you know,
huge and expensive, you gotta cram all

517
00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:25.640
that shit into that main line,
you know, to make this to make

518
00:33:25.680 --> 00:33:30.519
this style of game viable, you
have to, you know, But I

519
00:33:30.519 --> 00:33:34.119
think it's something those assets like Bethesda
has done it a lot over the years

520
00:33:34.279 --> 00:33:37.359
of putting kind of some of their
best stuff and in the side quests,

521
00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:39.480
you know, you go back to
like Dark Brotherhood and Oblivion and stuff like

522
00:33:39.519 --> 00:33:42.920
that. Wouldn't it have been better? I mean concerning how shit the main

523
00:33:42.960 --> 00:33:46.559
story stuff wasn't been more awesome.
That's the main that. It's almost like

524
00:33:46.599 --> 00:33:52.680
the Portal two stuff with the early
playthroughs having the stuff that ended up being

525
00:33:52.079 --> 00:33:54.839
the end of the game. Because
they realized the stuff is so good,

526
00:33:55.000 --> 00:34:00.759
why don't we make sure everyone sees
it? And maybe more developers need if

527
00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:02.759
if you're gonna have a linear experience, like that, and you're gonna try

528
00:34:02.759 --> 00:34:06.720
and tell a story. It seems
like it makes absolute sense. It's like,

529
00:34:06.799 --> 00:34:09.599
let's put the good stuff there where
everyone's it's it's it's with open worlds

530
00:34:09.599 --> 00:34:15.079
and side quests and you know,
adventuring style of games that we run into

531
00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:17.400
this where Yeah, they filled the
game full of side quests, which is

532
00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:21.880
great because if it was just this
huge open world with a big linear thing,

533
00:34:21.920 --> 00:34:27.400
then you end up with Mafia two
and no one wants that. Yeah.

534
00:34:27.440 --> 00:34:30.760
I don't know. It's it's so
like the disconnect is between like they

535
00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:36.159
have a shitty Morald dilemma as well
as their games. Just make that the

536
00:34:36.239 --> 00:34:38.400
game, Yeah, make the game. Do you make the game best,

537
00:34:38.519 --> 00:34:42.599
you know that, make the critical
path the best stuff and all the side

538
00:34:42.599 --> 00:34:44.920
stuff suck? Or do you make
all the side stuff and gave a story

539
00:34:44.960 --> 00:34:49.480
too for it? Yeah? I
say that for game game deav Story three

540
00:34:49.599 --> 00:34:53.360
D. Finally, Jeff Berrs,
do you play anything else other than Fable

541
00:34:53.480 --> 00:34:59.920
three this week? No? Not
really, I mean I don't. I've

542
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:02.719
been messing around with Mortal Kombat,
continuing to play that. Uh, because

543
00:35:02.719 --> 00:35:06.840
they have a bat the patch coming
up right? Uh? Yeah, Yeah,

544
00:35:06.840 --> 00:35:10.800
they've they've got a patch they said
they were working on like match like

545
00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:14.000
basically matchmaking, and that game doesn't
work. Yeah, King of the Hill

546
00:35:14.039 --> 00:35:16.000
and the Ranked One of the one
stuff was like York, you just you

547
00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:19.920
hit ranked game and it just sits
there and goes like we're looking and it

548
00:35:19.960 --> 00:35:23.039
never ever finds anyone for me.
So is that a case by case or

549
00:35:23.079 --> 00:35:27.519
is that just I've gotten into two
ranked games since the since they reset the

550
00:35:27.519 --> 00:35:30.280
servers on the nineteenth, Like it
was fine leading up to that. So

551
00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:34.719
I imagine it's just like load issues, load issues that they're having to address

552
00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:37.880
in a patch. But I guess
they've also got some balanced changes in the

553
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:42.679
works. Uh. Some stuff on
Twitter that that Paulo Garcia was saying is

554
00:35:42.719 --> 00:35:47.840
that they're making some changes to KNO. I thought Cano was good. They're

555
00:35:47.840 --> 00:35:51.679
making Cano better. From the sounds
of it, they're making sound like people

556
00:35:51.719 --> 00:35:54.880
are not like the upward ball will
recover faster. I guess like I thought

557
00:35:54.920 --> 00:36:00.639
he was want miss with it guys
already. Yeah, the ai A Kano

558
00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:04.559
seems seems rough. They make it
seems like they make Kano a little harder

559
00:36:04.599 --> 00:36:07.519
than the others. I don't know, but I enjoy playing this. Kno,

560
00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:09.440
I don't like that game. Yeah, I think it's great that they're

561
00:36:09.480 --> 00:36:12.960
they're going to be committed to making
balance changes and doing all this stuff.

562
00:36:12.960 --> 00:36:15.800
But I've already gotten into the kind
of the classic MK form of I just

563
00:36:15.840 --> 00:36:21.559
want to do random select and fight
guys. I'm with you in spirit,

564
00:36:21.679 --> 00:36:23.920
But man, that's a lot of
characters to learn. It's it's not it's

565
00:36:23.920 --> 00:36:27.400
not that hard that when it was
when it was twelve though, I could

566
00:36:27.440 --> 00:36:30.199
totally hitled up. Maybe it's just
because I've probably already sunk like forty or

567
00:36:30.239 --> 00:36:34.679
fifty hours into the game, between
the Challenge Tower and the story and and

568
00:36:34.679 --> 00:36:37.039
and all that other stuff. But
I guess if you went through the story

569
00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:43.199
and the Tower, you probably would
have. Yeah, so you know,

570
00:36:43.559 --> 00:36:45.719
so I'm having been forced to play
as every single character, I can say

571
00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:49.760
with some certainty that I never want
to play a Shank Song ever again,

572
00:36:50.239 --> 00:36:57.480
and followed closely by Shiva. But
yeah, I guess yeah, having played

573
00:36:57.559 --> 00:37:00.960
that much of that game, like
I've pretty much know how to do all

574
00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:05.840
of the specials and stuff like that, like like ridiculous combos of your character,

575
00:37:05.960 --> 00:37:07.159
Like no way, I'm not I'm
not great with everybody or anything,

576
00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:12.239
but it's it's that's how I've had
the most fun with the game so far.

577
00:37:13.960 --> 00:37:16.119
Like even when when Sid was over
here on Friday whipping our asses,

578
00:37:17.400 --> 00:37:22.360
I understand Sid. Humans never would
have taken that guy like prior to like

579
00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:24.280
a month ago, never would have
expected him to be like the world's biggest

580
00:37:24.360 --> 00:37:30.000
MK super face stick over here.
Even before that game came out. He

581
00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:34.719
came over he MK two for a
while against us, and that dude has

582
00:37:35.159 --> 00:37:38.119
I hate this phrase, but that
guy has solved MK two. He is

583
00:37:38.199 --> 00:37:40.679
he is all neo in the matrix
with that game, like he is seeing

584
00:37:40.719 --> 00:37:44.760
the code running behind it, like
he knows every in and out and every

585
00:37:44.760 --> 00:37:49.599
trick in that game. I don't
think he ever stopped playing it, but

586
00:37:49.639 --> 00:37:51.880
he beat I beat him twice,
and I'm pretty sure the second time he

587
00:37:51.960 --> 00:37:54.679
let me win because I still felt
good about because because all of all of

588
00:37:54.679 --> 00:37:58.440
his cohorts were telling him that he
had to let people win or we would

589
00:37:58.440 --> 00:38:01.440
all stop playing with him, which
is exactly clear what you're being, an

590
00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:06.599
asshole. I played two matches against
him, and I was like, all

591
00:38:06.679 --> 00:38:08.039
right, I'm good yep, So
yeah, I'm gonna go back to drinking

592
00:38:08.039 --> 00:38:14.000
beer, play with a controller upside
down or something. I had to do

593
00:38:14.039 --> 00:38:15.679
that. There are a couple of
challenges that flip the screen upside down really

594
00:38:15.960 --> 00:38:20.480
and there's there's are There's also one
where your controls are reversed. So at

595
00:38:20.480 --> 00:38:23.119
one point I literally was playing with
the controller held upside down and the other

596
00:38:23.159 --> 00:38:27.480
one I was tilting my head around
to see the screen the right way.

597
00:38:27.920 --> 00:38:30.280
Challenge Hower sounds messed up. It's
really really deep into it. Do you

598
00:38:30.280 --> 00:38:34.119
get to that? It's I think
one of the upside down ones is not

599
00:38:34.199 --> 00:38:37.519
all that deep into it, but
yeah, the reverse controls one is.

600
00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:40.039
It's pretty high up there. It's
kind of a grind, like I've been

601
00:38:40.239 --> 00:38:43.920
plugging away at it. I'm only
on like thirty something. I think,

602
00:38:43.960 --> 00:38:46.079
out of what you're not plugging away
on it hard enough. Two hundred and

603
00:38:46.119 --> 00:38:52.320
fifty three. I was basically doing
like thirty of them at a clip there.

604
00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:53.960
I would, you know, play
the game for a while and be

605
00:38:54.000 --> 00:38:57.719
like, all right, I'm gonna
get in the challenge tower knock about about

606
00:38:57.760 --> 00:38:59.719
twenty or thirty of them. Yeah. I was thinking like maybe I'll do

607
00:38:59.760 --> 00:39:02.159
ten night from No. One until
I finally finish it. Yeah, it

608
00:39:02.199 --> 00:39:07.679
starts getting hard around two fifty or
so. At one point, Yeah,

609
00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:13.079
at one point you are asked to
beat three show coons with Shank sung and

610
00:39:13.639 --> 00:39:16.719
that was where I realized I never
want to play a Shank again. And

611
00:39:16.960 --> 00:39:21.800
so one of the things the game
does is if you lose on a challenge

612
00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:24.880
repeatedly, eventually it starts giving you
a break. Don't tell me that.

613
00:39:25.000 --> 00:39:28.840
I had suspected that playing the story
mode, and I really did. I

614
00:39:28.880 --> 00:39:31.440
don't know if the story mode does, I kind of probably it probably totally

615
00:39:31.480 --> 00:39:34.440
about how like a third of the
way through the story mode, I was

616
00:39:34.480 --> 00:39:36.599
like, man, it seems like
when I lose about three times, Yeah,

617
00:39:36.639 --> 00:39:38.519
some of those double matches, you'd
all of a sudden there wouldn't be

618
00:39:38.679 --> 00:39:42.880
their specialist. And what they do
on the Challenge Tower is if you lose

619
00:39:42.920 --> 00:39:45.079
a bunch, then all of a
sudden, matches that weren't restoring your health

620
00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:52.440
between fights will start restoring your mechanical. Like, if you want to make

621
00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:55.280
three the final challenge easier, you
load it up and lose fifteen times and

622
00:39:55.320 --> 00:39:59.719
then go from there. I would. I just went through the fights myself,

623
00:39:59.760 --> 00:40:01.679
and you know, lost fifteen times
of my own volition before it started

624
00:40:01.679 --> 00:40:07.199
giving me that break. But it's
all doable. It's all totally doable,

625
00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:10.760
bread shoemaker. You finished Portal two
yet I did? What do you think?

626
00:40:10.800 --> 00:40:14.559
Oh? Man, it's pretty good. It's pretty strongly finished. We

627
00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:19.599
finished you finally. You didn't get
spoiled. No, I didn't know a

628
00:40:19.679 --> 00:40:24.519
damn thing. Yeah, it's a
nice twist at the end there. Yeah.

629
00:40:24.719 --> 00:40:28.280
What is the statute of limitations I'm
talking about? I don't know.

630
00:40:28.360 --> 00:40:30.800
We've established some some statutes. I
think it's got a very I think it

631
00:40:31.000 --> 00:40:35.000
varies from game to game. Pretty
sure, game when the games are good

632
00:40:35.199 --> 00:40:37.559
and the stories are the best part
about them. Yeah, I think we

633
00:40:37.639 --> 00:40:40.719
go a little longer. Yeah,
I mean, I don't think we've given

634
00:40:40.840 --> 00:40:45.400
up anything too bad so far.
But but yes, the story is good.

635
00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:47.400
I guess it has only been what
two weeks? Yeah? Wait?

636
00:40:47.480 --> 00:40:51.719
Is that didn't really? I guess
that game deserves about them, but it

637
00:40:51.760 --> 00:40:54.159
felt like it had done about a
month. I'll just keep in mind,

638
00:40:54.199 --> 00:40:59.360
you know European releases that she didn't
come out until that Friday. Yeah,

639
00:40:59.360 --> 00:41:07.679
I believe po code say brads trying
to talk about to to your ear hole

640
00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:13.199
man. You asked, you asked, give you some spoilers for Universe sand

641
00:41:14.920 --> 00:41:17.719
If you blow up the sun,
it fucks up everything. What's the Universe

642
00:41:17.760 --> 00:41:22.280
Sandbox? It's just it's out on
Steam. It's it's I've seen the name.

643
00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:24.119
It's not really it's not really a
game, but it does have Steam

644
00:41:24.159 --> 00:41:27.840
Achievements, which I thought was kind
of cool. You get one for blowing

645
00:41:27.880 --> 00:41:30.199
up the sun. No, uh, you get one for like launching it

646
00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:32.079
like all the none of the achievements. Wait a minute of that? Great?

647
00:41:32.599 --> 00:41:36.400
Is this actually? This is actually
a sim This is not a game.

648
00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:38.079
It is like you can create your
own universe. You can actually create

649
00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:40.800
planets and set the mass and all
this. We're gonna do a quick click

650
00:41:40.840 --> 00:41:45.719
of it there. But you can
just load up like our Solar system and

651
00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:49.280
click on the Sun and click on
blow up. Shut the fuck up,

652
00:41:49.360 --> 00:41:53.440
like it blows up and yeah,
basically actual like kinetic energy being released or

653
00:41:53.519 --> 00:41:59.679
just like deleted from existence and kinetic
energy being so you can there's aftershock and

654
00:41:59.719 --> 00:42:02.039
it's and then and then it shows
what happens to the Solar system. Yeah,

655
00:42:02.320 --> 00:42:05.480
after that, like where does the
Earth go? Is it? Is

656
00:42:05.519 --> 00:42:07.679
it? There is this thing trying
to teach you any real science or is

657
00:42:07.719 --> 00:42:13.320
it just like the gravity is apparently
based on real But you can bow up,

658
00:42:13.679 --> 00:42:15.079
you can blow up any you can
blow up anything. You click on

659
00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:16.760
the Earth, blow up the Earth. Se would happen to the Moon.

660
00:42:17.079 --> 00:42:20.840
The moon just goes. Man,
I just got nothing. I downloaded something

661
00:42:20.880 --> 00:42:22.559
like this while back that was not
on Steam. I just got this thing

662
00:42:22.599 --> 00:42:25.760
has been around for This is actually
the same thing I've played with. It

663
00:42:25.880 --> 00:42:28.840
was like a trial version out that
I got. Yeah, this has been

664
00:42:28.880 --> 00:42:30.440
around for for a while. It's
just it's new to Steam. I may

665
00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:35.039
have seen this in the past,
but and it's it's pretty fun, you

666
00:42:35.079 --> 00:42:38.599
know, Like they someone so they
have like some community made scenarios and someone

667
00:42:38.679 --> 00:42:44.400
basically made like Halo. So it's
just like here's the Halo ring orbiting around

668
00:42:44.519 --> 00:42:46.119
this planet, and then here's the
thing that orbits Halo, and then here's

669
00:42:46.159 --> 00:42:51.840
like the four Runner gas mining facility
or whatever, and you just blow Halo.

670
00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:54.840
What have you done with this besides
blow things up? That's about it.

671
00:42:55.480 --> 00:42:58.960
Yeah, I haven't. I haven't
tried creating a universe yet, only

672
00:42:59.039 --> 00:43:05.960
destroying and usually our our galaxy specifically, right, But yeah, you get

673
00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:10.320
that personal investment exactly, Like what
would happen if Venus blew up? What

674
00:43:10.400 --> 00:43:14.639
would happen to Venus? Pretty we
also just like delete stuff and see what

675
00:43:14.679 --> 00:43:15.960
happens. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're move it around. Yeah,

676
00:43:19.639 --> 00:43:22.119
Like did they pull a bunch of
NACID data sets? Is it all like

677
00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:27.960
pretty accurately modeled. I'm not sure
about like the accuracy of like you know

678
00:43:28.039 --> 00:43:30.039
where stuff is in space on this
date, but it does have real dates

679
00:43:30.119 --> 00:43:32.639
in there and stuff, so like
it'll you know, by default. I

680
00:43:32.679 --> 00:43:37.199
think the default Milky Way simulation starts
in two. See what would happen if

681
00:43:37.239 --> 00:43:39.920
the sun blew up on your birthday? Yeah? Can you like fly to

682
00:43:40.000 --> 00:43:44.239
Cannus Majoris or whatever? I mean? Yeah, we're talking the whole galaxy

683
00:43:44.320 --> 00:43:46.320
here pretty much. You're getting real
excited. I'm so excited. You can

684
00:43:46.320 --> 00:43:50.239
go to Wolf three five nine and
do something blow it up if you want.

685
00:43:50.400 --> 00:43:52.280
Okay, you get that button if
it's gonna say so so far,

686
00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:55.679
it just sounds like it doesn't sound
like is the blow it up button always

687
00:43:55.719 --> 00:44:00.599
present on screens? As soon as
you select anything, a little panel slides

688
00:44:00.599 --> 00:44:04.920
out that has like the mass of
that body, and you can you can

689
00:44:05.119 --> 00:44:07.679
change that and do a bunch of
different things there and then not at the

690
00:44:07.719 --> 00:44:10.920
bottom, it's just this button like
blow up. There's advanced options for blowing

691
00:44:12.000 --> 00:44:15.639
things up where you can set like
the force of the explosion or whatever,

692
00:44:15.719 --> 00:44:19.960
and also the number of projectiles which
to fall to, like thirteen or something

693
00:44:19.960 --> 00:44:25.119
like thirteen pieces. See this doesn't
sound like a construction simulator whatsoever. Well,

694
00:44:25.239 --> 00:44:28.719
I mean you can start with a
completely empty universe and fill it full

695
00:44:28.719 --> 00:44:31.960
of your own homemade stars if you
want, Could you say change mass and

696
00:44:32.119 --> 00:44:36.239
volume independently, because then you can
make a black hole. Yeah, you

697
00:44:36.280 --> 00:44:37.840
can take a giant start well,
if you blow up, condense it.

698
00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:42.039
No, you can condense it down
until like super tiny but the same mass.

699
00:44:42.119 --> 00:44:44.599
Then you get a black hole.
That would be cool. I believe

700
00:44:44.719 --> 00:44:47.239
that does happen. One of the
so it has much of tutorials and stuff

701
00:44:47.239 --> 00:44:50.599
you can go through, and one
of them is like, what would happen

702
00:44:50.679 --> 00:44:53.199
if the Earth had the same mass
as the Sun and you do it and

703
00:44:53.440 --> 00:44:59.760
everything goes crazy? Let's end this
podcast? Could do that? Clep.

704
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:01.440
She making it sounds like this is
a quick look for you. As soon

705
00:45:01.480 --> 00:45:06.480
as Vinnie gets in, We're gonna
do it excellent. Yeah, I mentioned

706
00:45:06.519 --> 00:45:13.360
Vinnie's out because of eyes. His
eyes have gone bad, exactly blind video.

707
00:45:14.239 --> 00:45:16.760
I learned from this experience that macula
is an unpleasant word. Yeah,

708
00:45:19.000 --> 00:45:22.079
such as in macular degeneration. I
guess, yeah, whatever's going on there,

709
00:45:23.360 --> 00:45:28.960
macular conception. That's that Madonna greatest
hit thing. So we hope Vinnie

710
00:45:29.000 --> 00:45:30.679
still has eyes the next time we
talked to him the Macular collection. It

711
00:45:30.719 --> 00:45:34.880
sounds like he just needs to spend
less time staring at monitors. Yeah,

712
00:45:35.000 --> 00:45:37.239
which that would help probably doubles for
all of us. Maybe that would help

713
00:45:38.039 --> 00:45:43.320
Breas Shawmaker. Yes, other than
Portal two, which we won't talk about

714
00:45:43.960 --> 00:45:47.360
at length than to say you liked
it. Yes, it's good. I

715
00:45:47.480 --> 00:45:51.360
look forward to play more of it
when they put out Free DLC. Indeed,

716
00:45:51.519 --> 00:45:54.400
thank you, l I went down
to Sony last week. This was

717
00:45:54.440 --> 00:45:59.239
a pretty fun time to go to
Sony, I bet, but actually nothing

718
00:45:59.400 --> 00:46:01.719
really it was there a room,
nothing to report about that. This was

719
00:46:01.880 --> 00:46:06.519
exclosing someone like standing near a room
and just touching the door knob. Still

720
00:46:06.800 --> 00:46:07.880
still hot. I think this room
is still on fire. I don't think

721
00:46:07.880 --> 00:46:10.840
we can go in there. Uh
No, it was pretty calm. Okay,

722
00:46:12.119 --> 00:46:14.559
I just went from the elevator to
a conference room and played a bunch

723
00:46:14.559 --> 00:46:16.639
of Infamous too, so all right, and then it was led directly back

724
00:46:16.639 --> 00:46:19.880
to the elevator. Get the hell
out of here. Yes, so you

725
00:46:19.920 --> 00:46:22.960
didn't hold this press event in some
sort of data center somewhere. No,

726
00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:24.559
didn't try to hold it in the
cloud. Certainly. Do you have to

727
00:46:24.599 --> 00:46:29.400
supply a credit card to get into
the conference room? No? I bought

728
00:46:29.480 --> 00:46:32.760
a pretty paid card, okay,
gave it to that smart and they let

729
00:46:32.840 --> 00:46:37.800
me write up uh in from the
sue man. I want to play that

730
00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:45.360
game right now. Holy shit they've
been releasing it looks look incredible. Yeah,

731
00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:49.679
uh it, Thank god. It
plays exactly the same, like just

732
00:46:50.519 --> 00:46:53.280
you know, top level of control
stuff like feels exactly like the first one.

733
00:46:53.840 --> 00:46:57.239
I thought that was one of the
best playing third person shooters I have

734
00:46:57.320 --> 00:47:00.159
ever played. Just like the field
of movement and the aiming and dodging too,

735
00:47:00.239 --> 00:47:04.039
it's like all of the immobility stuff. It just like the I guess,

736
00:47:04.119 --> 00:47:05.719
yeah, I guess I was gonna. I was gonna say, like,

737
00:47:05.719 --> 00:47:07.960
why would you call a third person
shooter because there's there's a lot of

738
00:47:07.960 --> 00:47:10.599
shooting there was a lot of there's
a lot of holding the left shoulders zoomed

739
00:47:10.639 --> 00:47:15.199
to an over the shoulders shooting perspective. You have a rocket launcher, you

740
00:47:15.239 --> 00:47:17.880
have grenades, it's just space grenades. Yeah, it was electric electrics,

741
00:47:17.920 --> 00:47:22.039
electric everything, but it's just shoot. Everything is a flamethrower, right,

742
00:47:22.039 --> 00:47:24.079
I mean there's melee and stuff to
Yeah, but I mean it feels it

743
00:47:24.159 --> 00:47:28.360
controls. No I'm saying, I'm
saying I agree with you. Yeah,

744
00:47:28.400 --> 00:47:30.559
it's what I'm saying. I'm just
hammering the point. Someone seems like it's

745
00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:35.920
a lot more animation going on with
the combat was much more flowing. I

746
00:47:35.960 --> 00:47:37.639
could see that. Yeah, maybe
I don't know. It's like it looks

747
00:47:37.679 --> 00:47:42.639
and feels and plays pretty similarly.
So what about to sit out to you

748
00:47:42.840 --> 00:47:46.199
that giant monsters? Okay, holy
shit, all right, Uh first game

749
00:47:46.239 --> 00:47:49.519
didn't really have well, let's had
a couple of bosses, but they were

750
00:47:49.639 --> 00:47:52.880
kind of muted boss fights. If
you guys, did you play with Patrick

751
00:47:52.960 --> 00:47:57.360
ye, remember dudes, you're not
a huge fan. Yeah, it didn't

752
00:47:57.519 --> 00:48:00.960
Because you're right. It was a
third person shooter, and very early on

753
00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:07.239
I became extremely frustrated by enemies who
had actual guns who could shoot long distances,

754
00:48:07.719 --> 00:48:14.880
whereas my electric powered gun, which
was me, had a very distinct

755
00:48:15.039 --> 00:48:20.800
and short distance that pretty quickly.
Yeah. I just I just didn't get

756
00:48:20.800 --> 00:48:24.079
to that point, and that game
had a saved system that allowed me to,

757
00:48:25.119 --> 00:48:30.079
if not lose progress. I feel
I was running back to where action

758
00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:36.599
was from my stupid home base,
really really off. Yeah, I felt

759
00:48:36.599 --> 00:48:37.559
like I was just like maybe I
was just you know, you didn't like

760
00:48:37.639 --> 00:48:42.119
hanging out with Zekee. It's just
that it's in it's a dead part of

761
00:48:42.199 --> 00:48:44.360
that city. So like anytime,
like, okay, I want to actually

762
00:48:44.400 --> 00:48:46.599
go and were you Were you one
of those prototype guys. It was all

763
00:48:46.639 --> 00:48:52.480
like Prototypes better than Infamous. No. I played through Prototype and I acknowledge

764
00:48:52.719 --> 00:48:58.039
its shortcomings as well, but it
let me keep playing. For some reason.

765
00:48:59.239 --> 00:49:01.440
I can't this an Infamous two will
do much for you, because it

766
00:49:01.599 --> 00:49:05.079
very much feels like the same game
with a lot of new stuff layered on

767
00:49:05.159 --> 00:49:07.719
top of it. I mean intellectually, Like looking at Infamous, I could

768
00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:12.320
tell it's clearly the better game,
and it's you know, a lot more

769
00:49:12.360 --> 00:49:15.519
polished, and they've done a lot
of work on the frame rate and the

770
00:49:15.360 --> 00:49:20.280
uh. I hate to use with
the word. But the jakiness, the

771
00:49:20.320 --> 00:49:23.840
open world jake seems to be at
a minimum. There's a lot of destructible

772
00:49:23.880 --> 00:49:27.760
stuff now. You can blow like
entire walls off of warehouses and stuff just

773
00:49:28.559 --> 00:49:34.039
shit like anywhere everywhere. Not I
mean there are clearly parts of the parts

774
00:49:34.039 --> 00:49:36.920
of the world, the world geo. Yeah, that's uh, whoa the

775
00:49:37.079 --> 00:49:38.440
you know, the level geometry,
the you know, there are buildings that

776
00:49:38.519 --> 00:49:42.320
are clearly static and you can't do
anything with them, but like I'll tell

777
00:49:42.360 --> 00:49:45.239
the difference between them or not so
much like you would have to shoot a

778
00:49:45.360 --> 00:49:49.239
rocket at it and see what happened. But a lot of stuff breaks,

779
00:49:49.320 --> 00:49:51.599
like you can straight up just like
shoot your way out of a building if

780
00:49:51.599 --> 00:49:52.760
you don't feel like looking for the
door. Cool in a lot of cases

781
00:49:52.840 --> 00:49:57.599
that I saw, So that was
pretty cool geomode technology. Yeah, was

782
00:49:57.639 --> 00:50:02.280
there any inside stuff an infamous one
or some underground like a lot, but

783
00:50:02.320 --> 00:50:06.559
those were kind of like one off
little platform levels. Uh, it was

784
00:50:06.599 --> 00:50:09.039
mostly outside actually, I mean this
was like open warehouses where an entire side

785
00:50:09.159 --> 00:50:12.679
is open or something. It's not
like you're loading into a building or something.

786
00:50:12.760 --> 00:50:15.039
But monsters anyway, So yeah,
they didn't have a lot of boss

787
00:50:15.039 --> 00:50:17.760
fights in the first one, but
they have straight up Godzilla size, like

788
00:50:17.840 --> 00:50:23.159
a giant shit stomping around like big
looking. It was like halfway between Godzilla

789
00:50:23.159 --> 00:50:27.679
and like Praying Mannis or something,
just rampaging through the city destroying everything.

790
00:50:28.719 --> 00:50:30.519
It had weak points shot him that
died, So I mean, you know,

791
00:50:30.559 --> 00:50:36.480
this stuffs cool god What else was
going on? There's like there's different

792
00:50:36.880 --> 00:50:39.480
disciplines now, It's not just electric
powers like ice or whatever. Now,

793
00:50:39.679 --> 00:50:43.440
So yeah, that was the thing
like the first game, like you picked

794
00:50:43.519 --> 00:50:45.440
or good or bad alignment and then
you kind of got electric powers tailored to

795
00:50:45.519 --> 00:50:50.320
that. Yeah, like you have
everybody's My impression of it is that everybody's

796
00:50:50.360 --> 00:50:54.039
got the electric powers as a base
now, and the fire and ice powers

797
00:50:54.079 --> 00:50:57.920
are sort of like what you get
depending on which way you know. And

798
00:50:58.000 --> 00:51:01.960
aren't they still trying to listen that
it's still derived from like electric ice or

799
00:51:02.039 --> 00:51:07.400
it's electric fire. Seemed pretty separate
from what I could see. They kind

800
00:51:07.400 --> 00:51:08.440
of loaded me on with a debug. Dude, they just had a whole

801
00:51:08.480 --> 00:51:10.199
bunch of stuff. So I just
kind of played with a bunch of the

802
00:51:10.239 --> 00:51:14.000
powers. But which one is good
and which one's bad is fire bad.

803
00:51:14.199 --> 00:51:16.920
They didn't. Fire is always bad. Fad fire bad, It's weird.

804
00:51:16.960 --> 00:51:20.679
I guess there are characters in the
story who have these powers, and that's

805
00:51:20.719 --> 00:51:23.360
where you learn them. Like there
are other superhero power guys running around this

806
00:51:23.400 --> 00:51:27.320
city. It's it's not just you
anymore. Uh, And so I guess

807
00:51:27.480 --> 00:51:30.280
you'll align yourself with one of either
the Ice Guy or the Fire guy.

808
00:51:30.320 --> 00:51:32.880
And that's kind of how you get
that stuff. Which one is voiced by

809
00:51:32.960 --> 00:51:37.880
Keith David because that's the one.
Which one is David Keith? You can

810
00:51:37.960 --> 00:51:40.079
only dream? That's the eternal question. Yeah, that's the end and yang

811
00:51:40.159 --> 00:51:46.039
of if that guy even gets auditions. Where's David Keathson? We know where

812
00:51:46.360 --> 00:51:50.519
David? Yeah, Keith Keith.
David's fucking everywhere, fucking in the passenger

813
00:51:50.639 --> 00:51:52.920
seat while ice Cube is driving and
they are cursing at someone on the street

814
00:51:53.960 --> 00:51:57.280
in all seriousness, Is he in
that game? I don't know. I

815
00:51:57.320 --> 00:51:59.440
didn't know. I was like,
for all I know he has been.

816
00:52:00.280 --> 00:52:05.159
They're saying, look at this motherfucker
right here up here on this bike.

817
00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:08.320
Yeah fuck that cue talking about the
voice acting though I talked to him about

818
00:52:08.360 --> 00:52:12.039
it some and like, I guess
I guess that is a big deal with

819
00:52:12.119 --> 00:52:17.039
that game. Everybody hated the so
you know they redesigned that was actually they

820
00:52:17.079 --> 00:52:21.400
hated the voice people and they hated
the little new calls. So they redesigned

821
00:52:21.480 --> 00:52:23.400
him at first and everybody hated it, So then they re redesigned him to

822
00:52:23.440 --> 00:52:27.960
be more like the old understood that
didn't people really identify with colin the first

823
00:52:28.000 --> 00:52:31.440
place, like I mean he was
That's probably what led them to redesign him

824
00:52:31.519 --> 00:52:36.639
or something like nobody really cares.
He was proto bald dude, like every

825
00:52:36.679 --> 00:52:42.920
single he was like random anti hero
voice like voice short hair, so he

826
00:52:43.159 --> 00:52:45.840
had render. Yeah, I just
didn't understand why there was always flak.

827
00:52:45.920 --> 00:52:49.119
I didn't the game was fun.
I didn't for the story or the character.

828
00:52:49.199 --> 00:52:52.559
It makes sense. It's like,
yeah, it was like a level

829
00:52:52.599 --> 00:52:54.320
of rage that was approaching, like
the Devil My Cry stuff, but at

830
00:52:54.360 --> 00:52:57.480
least with Evil My Cry. I
was like they were like four games in

831
00:52:57.679 --> 00:53:01.679
series, like people identify. I
don't really get it either, but it

832
00:53:01.800 --> 00:53:07.119
raised people's eyre so we didn't notice
anything playing well, point being uh the

833
00:53:07.000 --> 00:53:09.719
so you know, they visually resigned
a long time ago. We knew about

834
00:53:09.719 --> 00:53:14.480
that, but the voice acting that
people heard that they hated so much early

835
00:53:14.599 --> 00:53:16.119
on that was kind of like all
they had recorded. They had not done

836
00:53:16.159 --> 00:53:22.400
the bulk of the recording at that
point, so all that criticism informed like

837
00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:23.960
how that guy actually played the character
when they went and did all the real

838
00:53:24.000 --> 00:53:27.960
sessions. So he pretty much sounds
like that first guy. He must have

839
00:53:28.000 --> 00:53:30.119
been a really fun session. Like
so all the time you did early on,

840
00:53:30.239 --> 00:53:32.400
everyone fucking hates it. So we
want you to sound like this other

841
00:53:32.480 --> 00:53:36.880
guy, sound like the old dude, the guy we had before. Anyway,

842
00:53:37.079 --> 00:53:38.880
point is he looks and basically sounds
like the old guy. So anybody

843
00:53:38.920 --> 00:53:43.119
who was up in arms about that
can He's just a concern when you get

844
00:53:43.440 --> 00:53:45.320
you know, when you've got a
character like that that maybe you enjoyed his

845
00:53:46.639 --> 00:53:52.159
elements of the everyman presentation of Cole
that have suddenly he's getting all I don't

846
00:53:52.199 --> 00:53:55.119
know, you know, Prince of
Persia, like you talking about same time,

847
00:53:55.159 --> 00:53:58.800
when you go from the first one
where he's like he's getting this good

848
00:53:59.320 --> 00:54:02.480
archetype and and yeah, you like
you, your immediate impulse seems to be

849
00:54:02.639 --> 00:54:07.519
to dark them up and make it
more extreme. So you know, seeing

850
00:54:07.639 --> 00:54:12.199
that is kind of bigg boarding on
electricity. Right, it could be a

851
00:54:12.199 --> 00:54:15.320
little jarring just from a consistency standpoint. Well, I think it's it's it's

852
00:54:15.400 --> 00:54:17.920
that knee jerk like hoping that doesn't
happen. It's you know, it's expecting

853
00:54:17.960 --> 00:54:22.480
the worst for that kind of stuff
for sure. Uh So, yeah,

854
00:54:22.480 --> 00:54:25.280
they got the lightning powers, They've
got the fire and ice powers. There's

855
00:54:25.280 --> 00:54:29.920
also like ionic energy because you had
an AMMO before that was just electricity and

856
00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:32.280
so now like he brush his teeth, yes, totally, all right,

857
00:54:32.559 --> 00:54:37.840
right, I think you'd never have
to power. You have to teeth power

858
00:54:37.920 --> 00:54:44.159
of ultrasonic there's clean all the time
waves like Keith cleaning. I didn't I

859
00:54:44.159 --> 00:54:45.679
didn't get a sense of really how
that stuff's can feed into the powers.

860
00:54:45.719 --> 00:54:49.199
But you will have different powers that
only work on that kind of energy.

861
00:54:50.719 --> 00:54:53.800
Happens when that guy do you like
create an air ionizer that then you put

862
00:54:53.920 --> 00:54:59.719
in the rooms of people with respiratory
an Okay, you run around with one

863
00:54:59.719 --> 00:55:02.719
of those sharp damage things and then
everyone gets sick. Yep, that sounds

864
00:55:02.760 --> 00:55:06.840
like a pretty evil path thing to
do. That's that's infamous too. In

865
00:55:06.880 --> 00:55:09.719
a nutshell is there is the morality
stuff any more interesting. So I remember

866
00:55:10.199 --> 00:55:14.559
in the first game really not making
any difference on the story is more just

867
00:55:14.679 --> 00:55:17.239
well it was more what power as
you got, as opposed to like scenes

868
00:55:17.280 --> 00:55:21.199
like you would get different cutscenes depending
on what you did. They were like

869
00:55:21.519 --> 00:55:24.639
they were like those very unfrequent,
like very specifically scripted good or bad choices,

870
00:55:24.800 --> 00:55:28.159
Like it was like whether or not
your girlfriend thought you were a total

871
00:55:28.239 --> 00:55:31.199
monster or just most they just seem
kind of like the morality was lame.

872
00:55:31.400 --> 00:55:34.760
It was more like what power did
you want? Just go down that.

873
00:55:35.119 --> 00:55:37.039
I mean, I would agree that
it is definitely contrived, but it was

874
00:55:37.079 --> 00:55:40.159
also present, you know, it's
it wasn't in insignificant what it did to

875
00:55:40.199 --> 00:55:43.639
the storyline, but they didn't show
any of that stuff here, so I

876
00:55:43.679 --> 00:55:45.559
don't really know. I mean,
you could grind good and bad points in

877
00:55:45.559 --> 00:55:50.119
the first one by like either kind
of killing or healing civilians and stuff like

878
00:55:50.159 --> 00:55:53.000
that, and that stuff still in
here, So so there's that. But

879
00:55:53.079 --> 00:55:55.800
then just like the only other mechanical
thing I can think of is that it's

880
00:55:57.159 --> 00:56:00.199
you can have multiple powers in each
slot, Like you had to kind of

881
00:56:00.239 --> 00:56:02.920
pick one before and stick with it, but now like you canna have like

882
00:56:02.960 --> 00:56:06.320
two or three versions of the p
shooter. You can have multiple kinds of

883
00:56:06.360 --> 00:56:08.679
grenades. It's cool and like very
quickly just hold down the deepad and swap

884
00:56:08.719 --> 00:56:10.760
out which one you've got on that
button. So there's like a lot more

885
00:56:10.800 --> 00:56:14.840
stuff you can do with combat.
But it plays really well. They've added

886
00:56:14.840 --> 00:56:16.480
a bunch of stuff to it.
It looks better. It's seems like it

887
00:56:16.519 --> 00:56:20.280
has a smoother frame rate. It
just seems better all around. The user

888
00:56:20.360 --> 00:56:22.840
create admissions, yeah and all that
stuff. Game. That game sounds crazy.

889
00:56:22.960 --> 00:56:27.519
Yeah, I cannot wait. Next
month. It's out the first day

890
00:56:27.519 --> 00:56:30.760
of E three, which is June
seventh, next month. Three Yeah,

891
00:56:31.280 --> 00:56:37.599
yeah, three, yeah, stop
it? Yeah anything elsa red shoemaker.

892
00:56:37.639 --> 00:56:40.360
You want to talk about Outland?
I played a bunch of that. You

893
00:56:40.400 --> 00:56:43.159
played a bunch of it. I'm
almost done with it. Good, it's

894
00:56:43.199 --> 00:56:45.239
crazy. Do you still like it? Look for a review soon. That

895
00:56:45.280 --> 00:56:49.159
game is great? Isn't somewhere between
great and fantastic? I haven't decided yet.

896
00:56:49.280 --> 00:56:51.800
Okay, it's really good. I
don't know how far you guys got

897
00:56:51.840 --> 00:56:55.199
into it. But I only played
a little bit past the tutorialized stuff.

898
00:56:55.199 --> 00:56:58.760
I mean, I did that stuff
where we went to be soften and played

899
00:56:58.840 --> 00:57:04.360
kind of a weird, you know, vertical slice of stuff. But it

900
00:57:04.440 --> 00:57:08.400
seemed like a lot of waiting.
I think it. I think it looks

901
00:57:08.480 --> 00:57:14.360
incredible waiting for waiting for platforms to
come back and be in the right positions.

902
00:57:15.800 --> 00:57:16.960
I just felt like there was a
lot of like as you were going

903
00:57:17.079 --> 00:57:21.639
up through these, as you're progressing
through these kind of self contained puzzles,

904
00:57:21.639 --> 00:57:24.760
because it's it's kind of like a
floor mentality there of of you're gonna hop

905
00:57:24.840 --> 00:57:29.039
through this set of these moving platforms, then you can get to a little

906
00:57:29.039 --> 00:57:31.239
break area, and then you know
you'll you'll go onto the next set.

907
00:57:32.199 --> 00:57:36.599
I just I found that a lot
of those were very trial and error based,

908
00:57:37.079 --> 00:57:38.679
so there was a lot of like
jump to a certain point, getting

909
00:57:38.719 --> 00:57:43.159
knocked off by red bullets when you
were expecting blue bullets, and then it's

910
00:57:43.199 --> 00:57:45.360
like, okay, now I have
to wait for the these moving platforms and

911
00:57:45.400 --> 00:57:49.599
then getting into the right alignment so
that I can make a second run at

912
00:57:49.639 --> 00:57:52.760
this. Based on the thing you
saw at their office, this was based

913
00:57:52.760 --> 00:57:54.760
a little bit on that, and
end a little bit on kind of the

914
00:57:55.039 --> 00:57:58.559
opening of the game. I don't
know, once you get the I mean,

915
00:57:58.719 --> 00:58:01.599
so just to explain, it's also
kind of a slow run up at

916
00:58:01.639 --> 00:58:05.440
the beginning of that game, maybe
a little bit. They definitely they wait

917
00:58:05.480 --> 00:58:07.519
a while. So okay, so
what it is, it's about eighty percent

918
00:58:07.599 --> 00:58:10.920
of a metroid vania like that everything
is not quite as interconnected as it could

919
00:58:10.920 --> 00:58:14.760
be in that sense. Yeah,
but it is a big world where all

920
00:58:14.800 --> 00:58:15.840
the levels are stuck in the end. It's just that there are a lot

921
00:58:15.880 --> 00:58:19.840
of loads and weird ways that you
get from from place to place, but

922
00:58:20.400 --> 00:58:22.440
it does not convey that early on. Not not a ton though, but

923
00:58:22.559 --> 00:58:29.880
it's is that mixed with the color
contrast of Akaruga. Basically, uh,

924
00:58:30.280 --> 00:58:32.320
I guess I don't get I don't
get the metroid Vania. I think so

925
00:58:32.440 --> 00:58:36.039
much because there are a lot of
areas early on that you can't get to

926
00:58:36.159 --> 00:58:37.519
until you get powers later and you
can come back and get into them,

927
00:58:37.679 --> 00:58:42.320
which just doesn't seem like there's that
same depth of powers to be got.

928
00:58:42.840 --> 00:58:45.440
There's pretty much all that's I mean, there's no grappling hook, but there

929
00:58:45.440 --> 00:58:51.480
are equivalents, you know. There
there are launch pads and teleporters and okay,

930
00:58:51.519 --> 00:58:55.079
well like charge charge abilities that will
bust downhalls, you can't playing it

931
00:58:55.199 --> 00:58:58.639
for like twenty minutes, or you
don't have long eyes pound with it,

932
00:58:58.719 --> 00:59:00.320
like yeah, the early parts of
the game and don't even give you any

933
00:59:00.360 --> 00:59:05.079
indication of that thought. So I
mean, like it sounds awesome, and

934
00:59:05.280 --> 00:59:07.800
the only way you would know that
is by looking at the subscreen and seeing

935
00:59:07.840 --> 00:59:09.440
that there are like a dozen powers
that just say locked and you don't know

936
00:59:09.519 --> 00:59:14.320
what they are at that point,
but yeah, they are totally They're countless

937
00:59:14.360 --> 00:59:16.840
instances of going back and getting into
like through walls or through obstacles that you

938
00:59:16.880 --> 00:59:20.400
couldn't before. It was it was
hinted at when I first looked at it,

939
00:59:20.480 --> 00:59:22.800
that yeah, there would be some
reason to go back and look at

940
00:59:22.840 --> 00:59:25.239
stuff like at this point, I've
got like a charge melee attack. I've

941
00:59:25.239 --> 00:59:30.000
got like a beam that you can
sweep around and hit people with like tons

942
00:59:30.079 --> 00:59:35.519
of stuff. I just I never
that sounds awesome. It's cool that it's

943
00:59:35.519 --> 00:59:38.440
cool that it's all kind of like
contained in one play through, because whenever

944
00:59:38.440 --> 00:59:40.800
I, like in that early stuff, when I did see areas that I

945
00:59:40.840 --> 00:59:45.320
couldn't get to yet, I figured
that was like second play through sort of

946
00:59:45.400 --> 00:59:49.079
thing. So and in fact,
probably two three hours in you unlock the

947
00:59:49.119 --> 00:59:52.360
teleporters where you can just just like
zip right back to those maps if you

948
00:59:52.480 --> 00:59:55.280
want. But the combat has a
lot of depth to it. You can

949
00:59:55.840 --> 00:59:59.320
because you got like an upward kind
of uppercut swipe. Yeah, I think

950
00:59:59.320 --> 01:00:01.880
that the launcher and yet stuff use
that as a launcher. You can slide

951
01:00:01.880 --> 01:00:05.599
into guys to stun them and then
launch them and then jump up and hit

952
01:00:05.639 --> 01:00:07.760
them in the air before before they
hit the ground and they're dead. Like

953
01:00:07.840 --> 01:00:09.960
you just lots of stuff you can
combo together, and then bullet hill,

954
01:00:10.079 --> 01:00:13.480
like tons of bullet hill in that. Oh yeah, it's like the red

955
01:00:13.559 --> 01:00:15.800
and blue like because you don't take
damage from same color bullets, so so

956
01:00:15.920 --> 01:00:19.039
you have to you have to hit
this like the right pumper or whatever.

957
01:00:19.360 --> 01:00:22.559
He gets fucking intense at some point, like you were having to constantly change

958
01:00:22.599 --> 01:00:27.440
colors back and forth to like navigate
this just insane cloud of bullets and platforms

959
01:00:27.440 --> 01:00:30.519
everywhere because they're they're platforms you can
only stand on when you're a certain color,

960
01:00:30.639 --> 01:00:34.519
but then the other color of bullets
are coming at You're keeping in the

961
01:00:34.599 --> 01:00:37.519
air and trying to change color long
enough to take that swipe of bullets and

962
01:00:37.559 --> 01:00:40.119
then be the same color again when
you land. There are parts where they

963
01:00:40.119 --> 01:00:44.199
are like two horizontal platforms that you
need to jump between, but there's a

964
01:00:44.320 --> 01:00:46.679
vertical platform of the same color,
so you have to jump at that platform,

965
01:00:46.840 --> 01:00:50.039
change color in mid air, and
then change back before you hit the

966
01:00:50.079 --> 01:00:53.880
other. It's it's it is real. It isn't awesome. It's really good

967
01:00:53.880 --> 01:00:58.880
and it looks amazing. Like the
art style is ten dollars. Yeah,

968
01:00:58.880 --> 01:01:00.400
and it's only ten dollars, and
you know it's got some pretty decent co

969
01:01:00.480 --> 01:01:02.159
op stuff in there. Yeah.
Yeah, we were messing with the co

970
01:01:02.239 --> 01:01:06.920
op and that was last week's XBLA. Yeah, and who knows what it's

971
01:01:06.920 --> 01:01:08.760
gonna happen now, but it was
I guess scheduled to be out on PSN

972
01:01:08.840 --> 01:01:10.400
this week. Yeah, I don't
know. It will end up being like

973
01:01:10.480 --> 01:01:14.840
a giant content dump or supposed to
be before. We're supposed to be the

974
01:01:14.880 --> 01:01:17.400
same week. Oh originally, okay, we are. Our database might be

975
01:01:17.480 --> 01:01:22.159
wrong and well I mean I mean
someone just pushed it back away. Yeah,

976
01:01:22.719 --> 01:01:24.280
because it didn't come out the week
before. Its like, well,

977
01:01:24.559 --> 01:01:28.039
let's come out next week, right, It will be back next week,

978
01:01:28.119 --> 01:01:34.559
right, They're saying it will be
actually be back this week. Maybe part

979
01:01:34.599 --> 01:01:37.400
of it. I just I just
got my SOE noticed last night of Hey,

980
01:01:37.679 --> 01:01:42.400
we also may have lost your credit
cardiformation too, so we're gonna shut

981
01:01:42.559 --> 01:01:45.119
down those services as well. They
didn't they didn't know in the US,

982
01:01:45.199 --> 01:01:49.760
you're okay, okay, rest of
the world, you may you may have

983
01:01:49.840 --> 01:01:52.480
been double dipped. Yeah, that's
no good. Anyway, I play that

984
01:01:52.559 --> 01:01:58.840
game L ten bucks Xbox Arcade now
it's beautiful, and the comment all the

985
01:01:58.920 --> 01:02:04.880
gable network maybe days fluid, I
highly recommended. How yeah, how long

986
01:02:04.960 --> 01:02:09.280
has it's been so far? I
would bet the story modes probably six ish

987
01:02:09.400 --> 01:02:14.920
hours long. Maybe it's about normal
links for that kind of game and talking

988
01:02:14.920 --> 01:02:17.519
about these downloadable games. I forgot
all about the game that I played a

989
01:02:17.599 --> 01:02:22.079
lot of last week, and that's
Trouble, which is neo. Yeah,

990
01:02:22.079 --> 01:02:24.440
you did play a lot of that. Why did you play so much Trouble

991
01:02:24.440 --> 01:02:28.239
which is neo? Jeff, I
don't know what's wrong with you. How

992
01:02:28.280 --> 01:02:32.519
many Chiven points seven seven? It
has a bunch of like there's one it's

993
01:02:32.559 --> 01:02:37.360
three, it's yeah, and then
there's another one that's like ends with a

994
01:02:37.440 --> 01:02:40.480
nine, and there's like a one
point one right always eleven. Yeah,

995
01:02:40.599 --> 01:02:47.239
it ends up matching out. You
know, it's everything. I can get

996
01:02:47.320 --> 01:02:52.400
even again by going into the shop
and placing the cursor over the face of

997
01:02:52.480 --> 01:02:54.320
the girl, the anime girl who
works in the shop and pushing the button

998
01:02:54.440 --> 01:02:58.159
until I get kicked out of the
shop by her evil sister. If I

999
01:02:58.239 --> 01:03:00.559
do that thirteen times, I at
thirteen points. I don't know that I'm

1000
01:03:00.559 --> 01:03:02.400
gonna do with though, because I
don't know that I want to play Trouble,

1001
01:03:02.400 --> 01:03:06.000
which is neo every how long?
How long does it take for you

1002
01:03:06.119 --> 01:03:09.079
to get kicked out of the shop, like like five seconds or something like

1003
01:03:09.079 --> 01:03:13.400
that. Have you just like slamming
on the button as she laughs, it's

1004
01:03:13.440 --> 01:03:16.119
not like a five minute process.
But then you have got to charge it

1005
01:03:16.239 --> 01:03:19.519
up, right, But you know, then you get kicked out of the

1006
01:03:19.519 --> 01:03:21.760
shop and you have to play the
game again to get to the next shop

1007
01:03:21.800 --> 01:03:23.639
and get kicked out of Oh okay, you can't just like constantly go back

1008
01:03:23.639 --> 01:03:29.559
to the shop exactly. So it's
more shooter's shooter. It's a side scrolling

1009
01:03:30.199 --> 01:03:37.280
anime themed shooter wherein you play as
which is they localize this game. There's

1010
01:03:37.320 --> 01:03:42.159
a lot of dialogues shot in the
grandies sense, right, like that scrolling

1011
01:03:42.400 --> 01:03:45.000
that type of scrolling shooter. But
you're not a ship. You're a girl.

1012
01:03:45.079 --> 01:03:49.239
You're a girl room or a dog
who runs in the air and also

1013
01:03:49.280 --> 01:03:51.440
shoots. I don't know what it
is, but I have a place in

1014
01:03:51.480 --> 01:03:54.599
my heart for shooters where you're not
a spaceship or flying vehicle of any kind.

1015
01:03:54.719 --> 01:03:58.840
You're something that shouldn't be flying and
shooting like that too. Maybe if

1016
01:03:58.840 --> 01:04:01.719
you were just the dog. Yeah, maybe it's a hidden mode we can

1017
01:04:01.760 --> 01:04:05.079
just play as the dog. There's
a lot of dialogue in that game,

1018
01:04:05.559 --> 01:04:10.320
which is all poorly acted and recorded. When the troubles are the Witches get

1019
01:04:10.360 --> 01:04:16.760
into neo trouble. So I reimagined
to trouble. Yeah, trouble we've seen

1020
01:04:16.840 --> 01:04:21.519
before. I think Trouble Trouble,
which is new VOT got it, which

1021
01:04:21.599 --> 01:04:26.280
was of course the original title.
I don't think that's actually true. Probably

1022
01:04:26.360 --> 01:04:30.320
not. Uh it actually had so
they do have the original Japanese voices in

1023
01:04:30.360 --> 01:04:33.880
there, but then they also have
like these really poorly translated localized English voices,

1024
01:04:34.360 --> 01:04:39.440
which are amazing because they're so goddamn
bad. Do you recommending playing with

1025
01:04:39.480 --> 01:04:43.280
the English voice acting absolutely if you
played in an office and don't have the

1026
01:04:43.320 --> 01:04:45.639
headphones on to everyone around you.
Yeah, and you think it was intentional?

1027
01:04:46.119 --> 01:04:47.840
Do you think they knew what they
were doing? And I don't know.

1028
01:04:48.000 --> 01:04:51.320
I don't know what I want to
know. I think everything in that

1029
01:04:51.400 --> 01:04:56.719
game is intentional, very but not
for any comedic crez. The broader question

1030
01:04:56.880 --> 01:05:00.000
like, is it possible to make
a really bad English dub of an anim

1031
01:05:00.199 --> 01:05:01.639
in this day and age? And
don't you know what you're doing if you

1032
01:05:01.760 --> 01:05:04.800
do that? Like, I don't
know, I'm not sure. The people,

1033
01:05:04.840 --> 01:05:08.239
none of these people sound like they
actually speak English, Like it all

1034
01:05:08.280 --> 01:05:12.239
sounds like it was spoken phonetically.
Okay, So it sounds like some old

1035
01:05:12.280 --> 01:05:15.199
school dudes that just have been making
games like that all long or something did

1036
01:05:15.280 --> 01:05:17.199
it or okay or something. So
it's not like they just went down to

1037
01:05:17.199 --> 01:05:23.199
the accounting department dude who knows?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, who can

1038
01:05:23.239 --> 01:05:28.119
say? Don't question the methods of
band Presto. It's not even Presto.

1039
01:05:28.199 --> 01:05:31.199
It's saying these are ex band Presto, saying they probably are the probably did

1040
01:05:31.280 --> 01:05:36.719
time at band this game, clearly
at S and K published it, so

1041
01:05:38.559 --> 01:05:41.840
they did not develop that that sounds
about right these days, because that's that's

1042
01:05:41.880 --> 01:05:46.039
what that's Play more, yeah,
play more. So it's weird Korean studios.

1043
01:05:46.119 --> 01:05:50.880
Siesta, I think is the name
of the studio that actually developed it's

1044
01:05:50.880 --> 01:05:54.480
been on. The three guys that
used to work at Band Presto that now

1045
01:05:54.519 --> 01:05:57.559
are off on their own. Let's
keep making shooters. You guys told them

1046
01:05:57.599 --> 01:06:02.559
they couldn't make those games anymore.
Probably wrong. Liber all taken up slots

1047
01:06:03.000 --> 01:06:05.679
right now. The game. Yeah, I don't know if that game originally

1048
01:06:05.679 --> 01:06:10.480
came out in arcades at some point, and uh sure, it's now available

1049
01:06:10.559 --> 01:06:13.039
on your Xbox. Does it goes? Does it go sideways? It doesn't

1050
01:06:13.039 --> 01:06:16.199
go top down, scrolls to the
right, yeah, yeah, force movement,

1051
01:06:16.639 --> 01:06:20.719
movement scrolling. O. Yes,
there are different witches to play as,

1052
01:06:20.800 --> 01:06:24.559
each with different types of shots,
and you can you can buy it

1053
01:06:25.159 --> 01:06:27.519
anyway anyway. I beat the game
with one of the characters. It's not

1054
01:06:27.559 --> 01:06:29.679
a particularly long game, and you
can continue as much as you want,

1055
01:06:29.760 --> 01:06:31.840
so, you know, again,
just proving that games are really about thrill

1056
01:06:32.000 --> 01:06:35.679
rides and making sure you see every
little bit of great story that they have

1057
01:06:36.159 --> 01:06:39.960
developed for you. Trouble, which
is Neo is not a difficult game to

1058
01:06:39.960 --> 01:06:42.480
finish. I don't want to spoil
the ending, but did they get out

1059
01:06:42.480 --> 01:06:46.440
of trouble? They get out of
one specific type of trouble, but they

1060
01:06:46.519 --> 01:06:53.679
get into a bunch of trouble that
sounds just like them. The Animeo Taku

1061
01:06:54.440 --> 01:06:58.119
which that I played as, which
is that's literally how she has build that's

1062
01:06:58.159 --> 01:07:00.840
not me making that up. The
astrology, Yeah, she's the genius astrologist.

1063
01:07:01.039 --> 01:07:03.920
She is naked at the end.
You don't see anything, but she's

1064
01:07:04.000 --> 01:07:08.000
got a wand that transforms her into
stuff. But haha, it makes her

1065
01:07:08.079 --> 01:07:10.800
naked for a split second, and
that's the wacky fun. I shouldn't have

1066
01:07:10.840 --> 01:07:14.000
spoiled the really, I'm really sorry, all right, I'll cut that part

1067
01:07:14.039 --> 01:07:17.159
out. I'm really sorry for for
spoiling there. There are multitude of characters.

1068
01:07:17.239 --> 01:07:21.960
That's just one of them. I'm
sure. Wasn't that like fifteen bucks?

1069
01:07:23.280 --> 01:07:25.880
They charge like way too much money
for Trouble. I don't know how

1070
01:07:25.960 --> 01:07:28.360
much it is, but yes,
they charge way too much money for trouble,

1071
01:07:28.400 --> 01:07:31.679
which is got it. It's a
fun name to say trouble, which

1072
01:07:31.719 --> 01:07:36.199
is neo it really is. How
about how about nin nin jump? Is

1073
01:07:36.239 --> 01:07:40.360
that fun? I was a little
disappointed that that that's how you said it

1074
01:07:40.679 --> 01:07:44.639
after seeing the way that they were
spelling it out, like I think that's

1075
01:07:44.679 --> 01:07:47.679
the way to go. Yeah,
nin squared jump, would sir? I

1076
01:07:47.800 --> 01:07:51.800
was just thinking nin't too jump,
even though I realize you're right it is.

1077
01:07:51.960 --> 01:07:56.599
It is a little squared too.
Yeah. I bought that after that

1078
01:07:56.679 --> 01:08:00.199
quick. Look, that's right,
that's okay, speaking of speaking of gays

1079
01:08:00.199 --> 01:08:03.119
will probably never play again. That's
five dollars. It's five dollars. That's

1080
01:08:04.800 --> 01:08:08.679
bus that goes to Japan release.
So that's pretty awesome. Yeah, but

1081
01:08:09.280 --> 01:08:13.079
but as a game, you're saying
that's I don't think it's trying to be

1082
01:08:13.159 --> 01:08:18.399
any more than one puts up.
But you're like a you're a puppet on

1083
01:08:18.479 --> 01:08:21.479
a stick, really not a real
ninja puppet on a stick. Yeah,

1084
01:08:23.720 --> 01:08:28.239
it's just a nin Yeah, you
jump, you get the job part you

1085
01:08:28.399 --> 01:08:32.239
jump, and also, uh,
you get a grappling hook. It sounds

1086
01:08:32.279 --> 01:08:36.479
like what Outland was missing. And
bring these two games together how a party?

1087
01:08:38.479 --> 01:08:42.399
Another game doesn't need a grappling alive
other ways to get around? Oh

1088
01:08:42.640 --> 01:08:49.600
I finished The Assassin's Creed Brotherhood.
Uh Da Vinci's disappearance DLC, and uh,

1089
01:08:50.479 --> 01:08:57.239
I disappointed. What a surprise after
that Stellarsath Creed to DLC a little

1090
01:08:57.239 --> 01:09:00.640
bit of a but it seemed like
so much was learned earned in Assassins Creed

1091
01:09:00.920 --> 01:09:06.680
Brotherhood about just the basic kind of
game play systems that weren't as appreciated in

1092
01:09:06.800 --> 01:09:12.000
two. I had hoped, I
guess, much as I had hoped with

1093
01:09:12.239 --> 01:09:15.680
you know, a fall Out New
Vegas, that the DALC there would be

1094
01:09:15.840 --> 01:09:19.520
better, But that first pack was
pretty garbage for New Vegas. After the

1095
01:09:19.600 --> 01:09:23.039
DALC and Assassins Too, wasn't that
great? I was? I just sort

1096
01:09:23.079 --> 01:09:28.439
of wrote off, damn uh,
it's I mean, it's it's stronger,

1097
01:09:28.560 --> 01:09:32.479
like, it's much more story focused, but it's it's sort of like,

1098
01:09:32.840 --> 01:09:35.279
at a certain point, how much
impact can you have because the stuff is

1099
01:09:35.319 --> 01:09:39.359
happening. Yeah, Plus they assume
I'm going to get an annualized Assassin's Creed

1100
01:09:39.399 --> 01:09:42.239
anyway, so I really don't need
to extend my Assassin's Creed experience. You

1101
01:09:42.279 --> 01:09:45.600
need to be playing Assassins Creed games
all the time, which you could be

1102
01:09:45.640 --> 01:09:48.760
if you were playing the multiplayer there. You know, they've definitely extended the

1103
01:09:48.800 --> 01:09:50.920
hell out of that part. But
if you're just going for the single player

1104
01:09:51.000 --> 01:09:58.680
stuff, I don't know, it's
it. It still manages to I feel

1105
01:09:58.720 --> 01:10:03.079
like, uh, fall prey to
the stuff that was at least enjoyable about

1106
01:10:03.399 --> 01:10:09.039
Brotherhood. Just too much, too
much automatic fail stuff, too much just

1107
01:10:09.119 --> 01:10:14.319
having to just very strict conditions for
how you can complete stuff, which I

1108
01:10:14.439 --> 01:10:16.439
felt they had really really done a
great job in Brotherhood of addressing with the

1109
01:10:16.680 --> 01:10:20.159
you know, the the sinc percentage
completion thing where it's like, well,

1110
01:10:20.640 --> 01:10:25.359
you know, if you don't kill
any other dudes, you'll get one hundred,

1111
01:10:25.359 --> 01:10:27.239
but if you may, if you
you know, accidentally kill some of

1112
01:10:27.279 --> 01:10:29.840
these other dudes in addition to the
main dudes you try to kill, will

1113
01:10:29.880 --> 01:10:31.600
still let you slide through. We're
just not gonna give you a hund percent

1114
01:10:31.640 --> 01:10:35.680
completion. Does it kind kind of
feel like other Brods and brother where you

1115
01:10:35.680 --> 01:10:39.880
could clearly set other teams were working
on this part, Like, does it

1116
01:10:39.920 --> 01:10:42.399
feel like the DLC was like,
man, this is made by the Yeah,

1117
01:10:42.439 --> 01:10:45.720
maybe the teams. Maybe this might
be the Desmond stuff and Brotherhood,

1118
01:10:45.840 --> 01:10:54.119
like this might be the B team
stuff. Maybe Uh, I could talk

1119
01:10:54.199 --> 01:10:59.159
I guess a little bit about the
New Day Sex game. What I saw

1120
01:10:59.279 --> 01:11:03.000
of the game being played. What
colors did you see? Black? And

1121
01:11:03.239 --> 01:11:08.039
gold? Black? Smot of color? He's got a point, he got

1122
01:11:08.159 --> 01:11:12.279
it there. Gold. Okay,
all I saw was gold. It's like

1123
01:11:12.439 --> 01:11:15.560
gold. And then I saw the
absence of gold blacks all the colors?

1124
01:11:15.560 --> 01:11:20.159
Is that right? Why doesn't bend? He bend white? And then you

1125
01:11:20.279 --> 01:11:27.119
get all the colors right, But
it's no bending black and you push the

1126
01:11:27.279 --> 01:11:33.239
mind, push the explode button and
get all the colors? Venus? What

1127
01:11:33.399 --> 01:11:36.000
would happen? She blew up Venus. I don't have a lot to say

1128
01:11:36.079 --> 01:11:40.079
about the New Day sex game.
Do you know you could cook a pizza

1129
01:11:40.239 --> 01:11:44.079
on the surface of Venus and like
less than ten seconds? That sounds awesome,

1130
01:11:44.760 --> 01:11:45.960
But you would also we get it
back. You would be cooked too.

1131
01:11:46.520 --> 01:11:50.760
I would be in a space suit
anti Venus space suits. I'm gonna

1132
01:11:50.760 --> 01:11:55.239
eat the pizza that I would take
the pizza away? How would be How

1133
01:11:55.239 --> 01:12:00.720
would we get the Venus in the
first place? Pizza space ship? Couldn't

1134
01:12:00.720 --> 01:12:02.359
you just stick the pizza out the
window of your space ship if you're near

1135
01:12:02.520 --> 01:12:05.039
Venus and get the same results to
fold in space? Do I need to

1136
01:12:05.079 --> 01:12:10.880
be You're still getting radiation getting Wait, is this like microwave of pizzas?

1137
01:12:10.880 --> 01:12:13.800
I don't want to I want real
pizza. I don't know what sort of

1138
01:12:13.840 --> 01:12:16.359
pizza we're talking about here? Are
we talking like a real but like are

1139
01:12:16.359 --> 01:12:20.399
we talking like a restaurant went up
there and just like spun one some bagel

1140
01:12:20.439 --> 01:12:27.439
bites. We're talking little Caesars pizza, pizza, shitty pizza? Why am

1141
01:12:27.479 --> 01:12:31.399
I taking that to space? Rectangular
pizza? You see, if you can

1142
01:12:31.439 --> 01:12:34.920
make shitty pizza, stop by space? What if this pizza was prepared in

1143
01:12:35.000 --> 01:12:41.319
space? You can stop by and
pick up ready to bake or whatever they

1144
01:12:41.399 --> 01:12:45.600
call it. That's hot and ready
to radiate, is what the signs say?

1145
01:12:45.439 --> 01:12:49.680
Yes, but between four hours,
that's four venus hours, they guarantee

1146
01:12:49.720 --> 01:12:55.800
that they will have these pizzas available
to you. It seems like a really

1147
01:12:55.920 --> 01:12:59.680
bad use of space technology. That's
like what the fuck house isn't ask going

1148
01:12:59.720 --> 01:13:01.520
to do? Like they only got
like a couple more flights left, fuck

1149
01:13:01.560 --> 01:13:09.319
itt pizzas, flat science. We
gave them good reasons for us to go

1150
01:13:09.399 --> 01:13:13.159
to space. They didn't like that. So yeah, because we're filming a

1151
01:13:13.279 --> 01:13:16.600
reality television show, now, can
we have our money? Yeah? Little

1152
01:13:17.199 --> 01:13:23.680
yes, it's willing to subsidize.
Pizza is going into space. It's getting

1153
01:13:23.720 --> 01:13:30.239
on Caesar one, flying out to
Venus. It's gonna make some crazy bread.

1154
01:13:30.439 --> 01:13:33.720
We gotta figure out a way to
make pizza's viable for space. Yea

1155
01:13:33.840 --> 01:13:38.239
space pizzas pizza people are gonna be
eating food and space. We gotta make

1156
01:13:38.279 --> 01:13:41.039
sure that pizza is one of the
main films food they're gonna eat. We

1157
01:13:41.159 --> 01:13:44.359
need to get a toehold here.
How do you keep the toppings from floating

1158
01:13:44.399 --> 01:13:46.279
off of the pizza four bakes?
Like? What sort of fundamental changes are

1159
01:13:46.319 --> 01:13:49.920
we gonna have to make said pizza
and adhesive to keep all the oven the

1160
01:13:50.000 --> 01:13:54.880
travels around the edge of a centrifuge
and then everything state flat. What you

1161
01:13:55.000 --> 01:14:00.239
need is circular, self contained pizza, a pizza sphere, or like a

1162
01:14:00.399 --> 01:14:06.319
pizza two. It would be the
do just mind just broken a pizza sphere.

1163
01:14:08.199 --> 01:14:11.359
The problem with that, though,
is is then you have all you

1164
01:14:11.479 --> 01:14:16.560
have. You have to get an
outside piece that is exactly uh proportionally as

1165
01:14:16.600 --> 01:14:19.039
you go the middle. The real
problem with the pizza spear is that the

1166
01:14:19.119 --> 01:14:25.199
delivery drivers fucking like foil bags are
not meant to hold balls. They're mental

1167
01:14:25.359 --> 01:14:30.680
flat objects. That's true, So
you you know you need some because there's

1168
01:14:30.720 --> 01:14:32.640
say point one, we're talking Little
Caesars. They don't deliver. They do,

1169
01:14:32.880 --> 01:14:35.159
they totally do. You're gonna you're
gonna need some kind of a custom

1170
01:14:35.359 --> 01:14:41.079
entry apparatus to hold spears. Does
that? Does the Little Caesars and pedal

1171
01:14:41.159 --> 01:14:44.159
Uoman deliver? Pretty sure? Why
would I get that shitty pizza delivered?

1172
01:14:44.279 --> 01:14:46.039
It's gonna pay them to bring that
shitty pizza to my house. The only

1173
01:14:46.079 --> 01:14:49.039
reason I'm get that shitty pizza is
if I'm nearby, because it's it's just

1174
01:14:49.159 --> 01:14:53.920
the right now. I want pizza
right now, and I continue to hate

1175
01:14:53.960 --> 01:14:58.600
myself, then yes I will go. And I have five dollars, Yes

1176
01:14:58.760 --> 01:15:01.319
I will go to the Little Caesar. I'm just saying, a pizza sphere,

1177
01:15:01.399 --> 01:15:04.640
in my mind is about the size
of a basketball. That's probably way

1178
01:15:04.680 --> 01:15:08.000
too big. Couldn't you just like
make a cow zone? And then I

1179
01:15:08.079 --> 01:15:11.640
think you'd have to individually you could
if you want individual pizza balls, you

1180
01:15:11.640 --> 01:15:14.359
want personal pizza balls would be like, you know, equivalent of a slice

1181
01:15:14.720 --> 01:15:16.279
his party ball, but pizza.
So then then you just get like a

1182
01:15:16.439 --> 01:15:20.000
box of pizza balls. Those are. Probably it just comes to like dipping

1183
01:15:20.039 --> 01:15:23.239
sauce, and it's like, that's
not even the same thing. I want

1184
01:15:23.319 --> 01:15:27.039
the equivalent of a pizza, but
a ball. You want the personal pan

1185
01:15:27.119 --> 01:15:31.560
and pizza sphere. I want personal. What I'm saying is the impersonal pockets

1186
01:15:31.600 --> 01:15:34.319
are space food. Is basically what
I'm trying to get out of here is

1187
01:15:34.399 --> 01:15:39.680
that they've already invented the perfect space
food in its hot pockets and dipping dots.

1188
01:15:39.760 --> 01:15:42.960
They already they already won the race
with the dippin' dots and hot pockets.

1189
01:15:43.920 --> 01:15:47.159
I scream the future invest now,
man, these cookies made everyone fucking

1190
01:15:47.239 --> 01:15:51.880
crazy. I didn't even eat these. You can sure cookie pizza cookies,

1191
01:15:53.439 --> 01:16:00.640
Sure pizza pizza cookies, pizza cookies. Those they sell the pizzas that come

1192
01:16:00.680 --> 01:16:04.479
with cookies in the box. Disturb
that part. That's a really disturbing trend

1193
01:16:04.600 --> 01:16:08.760
that I bet the cookies are inside
the pizza. Lazy shit, you're gonna

1194
01:16:08.760 --> 01:16:15.640
mic You're gonna put your your dinner
into the oven and eat yourself the others

1195
01:16:15.640 --> 01:16:21.479
already hot. Dumb Are you saying
it's an unbaked pizza with unbaked cookie?

1196
01:16:21.560 --> 01:16:35.359
Dope, Ye're not pre cooked cookies. No, it's it's doing as do

1197
01:16:35.439 --> 01:16:40.680
they cook at the same time.
I think you probably have to do it

1198
01:16:40.760 --> 01:16:43.479
separate. You wouldn't want to do
it the same time because then the cookies

1199
01:16:43.520 --> 01:16:45.159
would not be as fresh when you
were done. Also, the cookies would

1200
01:16:45.159 --> 01:16:48.760
then smell like pizza. You wouldn't
want that. No, okay, because

1201
01:16:48.760 --> 01:16:55.000
I just got done eating that whole
pizza. I need I will change clean

1202
01:16:59.359 --> 01:17:04.479
space pizza space pizza. When when
archaeologists of the future excavate our our adobe

1203
01:17:04.640 --> 01:17:13.000
dwellings and they find stuff, They're
gonna this will be sperimental pizza. I'm

1204
01:17:13.000 --> 01:17:15.680
working on the will. They will
mark the pizza and cookie package at the

1205
01:17:15.760 --> 01:17:17.279
beginning of the fall of our society. So clear, this is this is

1206
01:17:17.359 --> 01:17:21.359
where this is it started going back. This is the inflection point at science

1207
01:17:21.399 --> 01:17:27.720
is food technology. It's got to
be somewhere DLC yeah, L see it's

1208
01:17:27.720 --> 01:17:30.760
actually they stuff cookie dough into the
crust of the pizza. Pizza. But

1209
01:17:30.840 --> 01:17:33.119
you got a cookie dough in there? Wait, why stuff it in the

1210
01:17:33.199 --> 01:17:38.359
crust, Just make the crust cookie
see Averytrare. Science seems like a very

1211
01:17:38.359 --> 01:17:43.000
anti food company. It seems food
seems very inefficient Yeah, for the way

1212
01:17:43.039 --> 01:17:46.399
a science does business, they would
want to cut the whole, even if

1213
01:17:46.399 --> 01:17:49.039
they're using humans, because you know, there's plenty of those around and they're

1214
01:17:49.079 --> 01:17:53.840
cheaper to produce food gas, food
pill. Yeah, but it would be

1215
01:17:53.960 --> 01:17:57.279
worse. It would be It would
be Yeah, food pill is too easy,

1216
01:17:57.560 --> 01:18:00.720
food gas, food injections. Breathe. It's gonna be something, Yeah,

1217
01:18:00.960 --> 01:18:06.520
it's got to be something that is
complete, completely contrary to the way

1218
01:18:06.520 --> 01:18:11.560
you would actually like food. Miss
that makes all your skin feel like you

1219
01:18:11.760 --> 01:18:16.720
just ate a pizza sphere exactly exactly, food gel that you rub like your

1220
01:18:16.760 --> 01:18:24.359
massage into your scalp, food socks
you wear special socks and then gets the

1221
01:18:24.399 --> 01:18:28.560
food into that gets the that activates
the food in the food socks, and

1222
01:18:28.680 --> 01:18:31.119
it seeps in through your feet and
you still taste it in your mouth,

1223
01:18:32.279 --> 01:18:38.920
but it's also combined with your feet
smell and taste your feet. Would would

1224
01:18:38.920 --> 01:18:41.479
they smell like pizza at the end
of the day, it smell like your

1225
01:18:41.479 --> 01:18:48.000
feet and also with pizza or I
guess more like pizza spheares, because they

1226
01:18:48.039 --> 01:18:51.279
wouldn't they wouldn't actually try and emulate
real pizza. They would try and emulate

1227
01:18:51.680 --> 01:18:58.000
future pizza fire, but you'd still
taste all of it on your in your

1228
01:18:58.039 --> 01:19:00.159
mouth. I think the pizza spear
would have to have an inner crust.

1229
01:19:01.119 --> 01:19:03.560
You would have an outer crust and
then an inner crust. I think that's

1230
01:19:03.560 --> 01:19:06.359
why you gotta go tube, not
sphere. I think sphere is impractical.

1231
01:19:06.479 --> 01:19:11.159
Like if you're like a burrito,
Yeah, pizza tubes, pizza tubes,

1232
01:19:11.199 --> 01:19:17.439
pizza burritozz get better. Yeah,
you can send it through those spacey tubes

1233
01:19:17.520 --> 01:19:21.399
too. Pizones, I guess is
what I'm talking about. It's always what

1234
01:19:21.479 --> 01:19:26.800
I'm talking about, pre back to
quality products like pizones. I do not

1235
01:19:26.920 --> 01:19:29.600
mean here to bring it back around
to DSX. You know what I mean

1236
01:19:29.640 --> 01:19:32.319
to short change this game. It's
futuristic because it's futuristic, and I'm sure

1237
01:19:32.359 --> 01:19:38.039
people what are they eating that game? People are gels like like black and

1238
01:19:38.159 --> 01:19:43.479
gold, honey, honey and licorice. Okay, it's very specific future.

1239
01:19:45.600 --> 01:19:48.840
The first two things came to mind. I like it because I mean that

1240
01:19:48.960 --> 01:19:58.079
game seems like it makes good,
like very specifically on like how the first

1241
01:19:58.239 --> 01:20:01.960
das X games That is actually my
favorite game, which which I know people

1242
01:20:02.159 --> 01:20:06.439
are are deep deep into. Yeah, and also not so much in the

1243
01:20:06.600 --> 01:20:11.960
second one at all. Well,
I remember at a GDC presentation the guy

1244
01:20:12.159 --> 01:20:14.600
was basically like, so the first
one was amazing, this one was a

1245
01:20:14.640 --> 01:20:16.600
giant piece of shit. So like, I don't know how this everyone's gonna

1246
01:20:16.640 --> 01:20:19.960
turn out, but you got the
right philosophy. Apparently they told us to

1247
01:20:20.000 --> 01:20:23.640
be three last year when they took
this project on, Like everybody on the

1248
01:20:23.800 --> 01:20:27.279
entire team sat down and played through
the first one, whether they had played

1249
01:20:27.279 --> 01:20:30.199
it before or not. Don't touch
the second one even, don't even have

1250
01:20:30.319 --> 01:20:33.039
that knowledge seep into your brain.
So this, I mean, this was

1251
01:20:33.039 --> 01:20:36.039
a prequel. This is this is
all taking place before the first game,

1252
01:20:36.199 --> 01:20:42.680
so uh like the I guess kind
of esthetically, the tech that you're using

1253
01:20:43.000 --> 01:20:46.640
feels like it's it's mechanical, like
you haven't gotten to the nano state of

1254
01:20:46.920 --> 01:20:50.159
the of the first game. So
there's a lot of like limb replacement and

1255
01:20:50.199 --> 01:20:54.479
stuff. Yeah, all that stuff
happening sort of in the story as you're

1256
01:20:54.600 --> 01:20:57.840
as you're playing right like like in
like twenty or thirty years, all of

1257
01:20:57.880 --> 01:21:00.239
that stuff will be status quo,
but they're still at kind of like what

1258
01:21:00.319 --> 01:21:04.840
we're doing, you know, biomechanical
sort of you know, trying, yeah,

1259
01:21:04.920 --> 01:21:09.640
trying to have like better limbs by
just get completely replacing limbs or different

1260
01:21:09.640 --> 01:21:14.039
body parts and crazy futuristic so I
could get better limbs, I would do

1261
01:21:14.159 --> 01:21:17.199
it. Uh. If they said
we want to cut off your right arm

1262
01:21:17.239 --> 01:21:19.720
and put on a better right arm, I would totally let them. Don't

1263
01:21:19.760 --> 01:21:23.960
ask for any specifics. It's like
it'll be better. How about how about

1264
01:21:24.079 --> 01:21:26.840
how about a pizza What if they
gave you a pizza pizza arm. Your

1265
01:21:26.920 --> 01:21:30.920
arms now made a pizza, but
it always regenerates. Okay, all right,

1266
01:21:30.960 --> 01:21:32.359
if it was a regenerate a pizza
arm, then yeah, okay,

1267
01:21:32.840 --> 01:21:36.920
oh my god, different flavors everything. Oh man, I don't know if

1268
01:21:36.920 --> 01:21:40.920
I could, as long as I
have control over the flavor. I'm growing

1269
01:21:40.960 --> 01:21:45.520
some sausage. They're great, it's
great stuffs sauce, And I want you

1270
01:21:45.640 --> 01:21:51.079
to have a pizza arm. Then
I guess I won't play this bad bad

1271
01:21:51.159 --> 01:21:57.399
for the workplaces. So they showed
to me a very specific scenario being played

1272
01:21:57.479 --> 01:22:02.720
through where you you're kind of you're
approaching this facility and you need to figure

1273
01:22:02.760 --> 01:22:05.279
out what was going on in this
in this facility and kind of who the

1274
01:22:05.359 --> 01:22:11.399
bad guys were, and it's very
much the you can go in guns blazing,

1275
01:22:11.479 --> 01:22:14.279
or you can you know, use
your stealth to do depending on how

1276
01:22:14.319 --> 01:22:17.279
your character respect to to kind of
you know, sneak around. But it's

1277
01:22:17.319 --> 01:22:21.319
all very like, okay, activate
my stealth, and while my salth is

1278
01:22:21.319 --> 01:22:26.680
activated, this meter is running down
like it's it still feels it feels the

1279
01:22:26.720 --> 01:22:30.359
way that games don't feel anymore,
uh, particularly kind of like choice,

1280
01:22:30.960 --> 01:22:38.039
how well, how fucking hard ass
Like old PC games pcrpgs specifically used to

1281
01:22:38.079 --> 01:22:42.520
be about implementing their crazy rule sets
of Okay, if you want to do

1282
01:22:42.600 --> 01:22:45.560
this, like you're only gonna have
like there's real risk of if you don't

1283
01:22:45.600 --> 01:22:47.880
do this correctly or you know,
mismanage your powers. You're gonna in the

1284
01:22:48.000 --> 01:22:54.319
middle of this you know this this
open uh you know courtyard and in this

1285
01:22:55.119 --> 01:23:00.279
in this compound where there's three levels
of dudes on catwalks around you with guns

1286
01:23:00.279 --> 01:23:01.359
where if they see you, they're
just going to smoke you on site.

1287
01:23:01.760 --> 01:23:04.399
So like in the in the playthrough
that I was shown, you know,

1288
01:23:04.479 --> 01:23:08.760
this guy actually doing it, he
had to be very measured with all that

1289
01:23:08.800 --> 01:23:11.039
stuff, and there was a lot
of like, okay, I'm just gonna

1290
01:23:11.039 --> 01:23:15.039
wait here for that dude to complete
his uh, you know, his his

1291
01:23:15.119 --> 01:23:16.840
little kind of guard cycles, a
little century cycle. So once he comes

1292
01:23:16.920 --> 01:23:20.359
back here, I'll know that this
other dude is in this other location and

1293
01:23:20.479 --> 01:23:24.760
I can use like my non lethal
thing to taze him and and that'll keep

1294
01:23:24.840 --> 01:23:28.079
me you know, non lethal aligned
and all that kind of stuff. You

1295
01:23:28.119 --> 01:23:30.560
could get away with that more on
PC games because he had quick save and

1296
01:23:30.640 --> 01:23:32.439
quick load, so it wasn't as
much of a risk when you were trying

1297
01:23:32.439 --> 01:23:35.159
to do things like like console games
don't have that, yeah, as much.

1298
01:23:35.239 --> 01:23:38.159
I don't believe this game will have
that. I believe this game will

1299
01:23:38.159 --> 01:23:43.119
be very check pointed. Yeah.
So yeah, so, like you know,

1300
01:23:43.239 --> 01:23:46.279
he was, he was showing these
areas and it seemed pretty clear that

1301
01:23:46.319 --> 01:23:49.159
okay, yeah, the path he
took was kind of the stealth path,

1302
01:23:49.239 --> 01:23:51.159
and he as he looked back,
he could kind of see like, oh,

1303
01:23:51.159 --> 01:23:54.840
if if I was, you know, gonna go more guns blazing,

1304
01:23:54.880 --> 01:23:57.119
this would probably be the way I
would go. And you know, the

1305
01:23:57.359 --> 01:24:00.640
reasons for that seemed clear, and
even there being like multiple stealth paths,

1306
01:24:00.079 --> 01:24:04.760
but it seemed very much like either
you're gonna go whole hog into being stealth

1307
01:24:04.880 --> 01:24:08.479
dude, or you're gonna go the
other way. And then there's like kind

1308
01:24:08.479 --> 01:24:11.479
of you know, peripheral alignment stuff
as far as like, well, you

1309
01:24:11.520 --> 01:24:14.439
know I'm gonna be big into well, I guess the two other The two

1310
01:24:14.479 --> 01:24:16.960
other things are hacking, which is
you know, basically like lock picking and

1311
01:24:17.199 --> 01:24:23.359
stuff like that, and conversation.
But the conversation stuff seems like you're like

1312
01:24:23.479 --> 01:24:29.600
you can avoid some fights, but
it's the stealth and the combat stuff you

1313
01:24:29.640 --> 01:24:32.600
will always need to like kind of
have on hit right, because there will

1314
01:24:34.319 --> 01:24:38.039
It's not a game where you can
get through entirely just by speech, which

1315
01:24:38.039 --> 01:24:41.079
I actually asked and I was a
little bummed to find out that I could

1316
01:24:41.159 --> 01:24:44.520
not literally just talk my way through
this game, because I would love to

1317
01:24:44.640 --> 01:24:48.000
see a game that took its RPG
element that seriously, that was able to

1318
01:24:48.319 --> 01:24:53.880
take it to that extreme and let
you literally just dialogue tree your way.

1319
01:24:54.000 --> 01:24:57.920
Probably my favorite thing about the ending
of New Vegas, right you can just

1320
01:24:58.439 --> 01:25:01.760
being able to see your way.
Yeah. Type RPGs are more about the

1321
01:25:01.840 --> 01:25:05.680
role playing. The fighting like the
sex traditionally is a lot a shooter like

1322
01:25:05.720 --> 01:25:11.359
it was playing is when you're in
combat or stealth, Like the role playing

1323
01:25:11.439 --> 01:25:14.199
is the character you've rolled or created. You know, it came out of

1324
01:25:14.199 --> 01:25:15.760
the first person shooter community. I
mean, if you had left out the

1325
01:25:15.920 --> 01:25:20.039
names there through what you were just
describing, you could have plugged in Alpha

1326
01:25:20.119 --> 01:25:25.119
protocol. Yeah, it was totally
the conversation to do everything you just said.

1327
01:25:25.279 --> 01:25:30.680
And so I'm kind of worried about
everything you just said about the sex.

1328
01:25:30.800 --> 01:25:32.800
I guess what if alph protocol was
good? Like, what if the

1329
01:25:35.039 --> 01:25:39.720
protocol definitely had a lot of really
cool things right in it? What if

1330
01:25:39.720 --> 01:25:43.119
they made a good game out of
the great great Alpha Protocol that would be

1331
01:25:43.199 --> 01:25:47.279
awesome. This this definitely seems like
it is. It is focused on hitting

1332
01:25:47.319 --> 01:25:51.760
those notes from that first game as
far as kind of the gameplay pacing.

1333
01:25:53.640 --> 01:25:58.000
And you know, I didn't see
the dude fuck up too much, So

1334
01:25:58.199 --> 01:26:00.840
I can't speak to necessarily to the
the level of punishment that will actually be

1335
01:26:01.359 --> 01:26:03.920
meted out when that game comes out. But it seemed like it was.

1336
01:26:05.640 --> 01:26:09.359
It seemed like it was it was
it was pretty harsh about that stuff,

1337
01:26:10.159 --> 01:26:13.479
or it was it was implied that
it could be pretty harsh about that stuff.

1338
01:26:13.600 --> 01:26:16.039
Let's say the only thing that really
stuck out at me was that there

1339
01:26:16.239 --> 01:26:21.640
was like some generally good voice acting
that was undercut by some really terrible voice

1340
01:26:21.680 --> 01:26:25.119
acting. I would be like right
in the middle of it. And so

1341
01:26:25.399 --> 01:26:29.359
this game is made in French Canadian, yes, and that shows in the

1342
01:26:29.439 --> 01:26:36.880
voice acting where someone will have a
pretty good like let's say there's a character

1343
01:26:36.920 --> 01:26:40.399
he's supposed to be like a street
dealer, and he's got a pretty good

1344
01:26:40.399 --> 01:26:44.119
patois for that character until he gets
to a certain point where maybe it's like

1345
01:26:44.159 --> 01:26:46.840
a whole word or just a syllable
in a word. Uh, you know,

1346
01:26:47.039 --> 01:26:51.359
the maybe in their version of the
not quite as far Flowing Future,

1347
01:26:53.079 --> 01:26:57.039
everyone is French Canadian. Well that
would that would help the fiction. Yeah,

1348
01:26:57.840 --> 01:27:01.600
that would help the believability of certain
accent squaw where you can hear exactly

1349
01:27:01.920 --> 01:27:11.079
it's inference in this timeline Quebec the
exactly. Uh So that that's stuck with

1350
01:27:11.159 --> 01:27:13.640
me oddly. It was one of
the first things that happens in the demos.

1351
01:27:13.680 --> 01:27:15.560
You talk to a dude and he's
kind of you know, rapping at

1352
01:27:15.600 --> 01:27:20.680
you until a certain point where where
it all breaks down. Yeah. Uh

1353
01:27:23.920 --> 01:27:26.439
yeah, That's all I have to
say about sex A lot of that game

1354
01:27:26.600 --> 01:27:29.960
is playing it, So I think
a lot of that world be more born

1355
01:27:30.000 --> 01:27:33.279
out of absolutely. I mean,
yeah, they kept on, they kept

1356
01:27:33.359 --> 01:27:36.880
on really emphasizing, you know,
the action RPG elements of it, and

1357
01:27:38.000 --> 01:27:41.319
it is being in that moment and
it it seems cool, like it's it

1358
01:27:41.439 --> 01:27:45.560
seems uh natural, like something part
of it, like there's there's elements of

1359
01:27:45.680 --> 01:27:49.239
the way the world is set up
that's like, Okay, this is you

1360
01:27:49.359 --> 01:27:55.399
have laid this out in order to
create proper contrivances for all of the kind

1361
01:27:55.439 --> 01:27:58.479
of the spectrum of variances that you
can have and in the way your character

1362
01:27:58.640 --> 01:28:02.199
is developed. But then once you
actually get into those scenarios or at least

1363
01:28:02.279 --> 01:28:06.279
kind of the way scenarios can develop
as you go, uh still seems very

1364
01:28:06.359 --> 01:28:12.159
natural, like you know, how
how enemies will react to your presence in

1365
01:28:12.279 --> 01:28:15.239
certain uh you know scenarios and like
where you are, Like if you take

1366
01:28:15.359 --> 01:28:19.479
down a guard and then leave that
guard in plain sight, if another guard

1367
01:28:19.520 --> 01:28:23.640
has a path that you know crosses
that what that can mean for you and

1368
01:28:24.279 --> 01:28:28.439
and taking it to that level of
depth like that that can make it seem

1369
01:28:28.640 --> 01:28:36.880
very uh uh not procedural, but
uh, you know it kind of evolutionary

1370
01:28:36.960 --> 01:28:40.520
like it cold. It can just
kind of come out of the play of

1371
01:28:40.560 --> 01:28:43.720
the game. So we'll see how
that actually bears out when that game is

1372
01:28:43.800 --> 01:28:48.119
finished, which I think it's gonna
be pretty soon. Hm. So come

1373
01:28:48.159 --> 01:28:51.359
for us some body moving in it. You have to do some moving of

1374
01:28:51.439 --> 01:28:55.039
dudes. I mean you can dance, No, yeah you can. Yeah.

1375
01:28:55.079 --> 01:28:59.079
There's some stuff with stealth missions in
that where it's just kind of clunky

1376
01:28:59.159 --> 01:29:00.680
old mechanics. So it's like,
here's a fat stealth meter on the screen.

1377
01:29:00.720 --> 01:29:03.760
You should probably make sure it doesn't
fill up and then move bodies after

1378
01:29:03.800 --> 01:29:09.159
you kill them. Yeah, you're
still going through that campaign. It's it's

1379
01:29:09.239 --> 01:29:12.600
not I've not finished it, but
Steve, I don't think I will.

1380
01:29:12.720 --> 01:29:15.560
It's it's not fun. Not that
so Calm has ever been about. It's

1381
01:29:15.600 --> 01:29:20.760
a single player campaign. But that's
all right now. So yeah, poor,

1382
01:29:20.960 --> 01:29:26.439
poor poor socom. Let's move to
news, gents and Patrick Kleppick.

1383
01:29:26.520 --> 01:29:31.600
What's the current PlayStation network news?
Shit still broke? Great? Getting next?

1384
01:29:32.479 --> 01:29:36.760
It's coming, It's coming back apparently
sometimes this week in scattered segments they

1385
01:29:36.760 --> 01:29:41.560
haven't. They they had a bullpoint
list of things they're bringing back, which

1386
01:29:41.760 --> 01:29:45.840
starts with online multiplayer, but when
that happens, it's it's really tough to

1387
01:29:45.920 --> 01:29:48.760
say. They just said this week, maybe pretty safe to assume it'll be

1388
01:29:48.760 --> 01:29:51.880
a firm More update alongside there's a
firm More update that we'll force you to

1389
01:29:53.000 --> 01:29:57.359
change your password. They did disclose
at a press conference in Tokyo that uh

1390
01:29:57.479 --> 01:30:02.760
ten million credit cards were potentially it's
supposed, but they cannot still confirm whether

1391
01:30:02.960 --> 01:30:08.560
the information was actually taken. So
that ten million random accounts out of that

1392
01:30:08.760 --> 01:30:12.079
seventy whatever million, they don't seem
to know. They're just at least the

1393
01:30:12.159 --> 01:30:15.359
information we have is just that that
ten million potentially exposed of these seventy seven

1394
01:30:15.560 --> 01:30:18.439
but they said it was seventy seven
million total accounts, but like thirty five

1395
01:30:18.520 --> 01:30:24.359
million master accounts. The number is
so I don't know that that would make

1396
01:30:24.479 --> 01:30:28.079
sense given that the seventy seven is
a bloated number for what is actual use

1397
01:30:29.560 --> 01:30:32.840
three accounts. Seventy seven just some
more impressive number they use in their press

1398
01:30:32.880 --> 01:30:38.000
releases. It's not at all these
Yeah, it's kind of it's kind of

1399
01:30:38.000 --> 01:30:43.680
backfired, and this in this situation
doesn't help that Sony Online Entertainment got hit

1400
01:30:43.760 --> 01:30:48.039
two it was the same San Diego
data facility, so presumably the same attacks

1401
01:30:48.159 --> 01:30:53.840
and so so this this has to
be like several weeks after the initial PSCENT

1402
01:30:53.880 --> 01:30:56.960
attacks, right or is this or
are they just scrubbing back through. No,

1403
01:30:57.079 --> 01:31:00.359
it sounds like they're just scrubbing back
and realized in addition to the sense

1404
01:31:00.359 --> 01:31:03.920
stuff. Oh shit. Also,
Tony a Laner tam it's a twenty six

1405
01:31:04.039 --> 01:31:10.039
million accounts. In that case,
almost thirteen thousand credit cards were exposed,

1406
01:31:10.039 --> 01:31:13.119
but it was from a two thousand
and seven database, so twenty four point

1407
01:31:13.199 --> 01:31:16.199
six twenty four point six, but
only but just under thirteen thousand credit or

1408
01:31:16.239 --> 01:31:19.880
debit cards were exposed, but only
nine hundred are still active because it's from

1409
01:31:19.880 --> 01:31:23.960
an old database and they're not from
the US. So it was thirteen thousand

1410
01:31:24.000 --> 01:31:28.039
none US credit cards, most of
which were expired. Yes, so only

1411
01:31:28.159 --> 01:31:31.039
nine hundred potentially Yes, awful.
Nice something to keep that stuff around.

1412
01:31:31.800 --> 01:31:35.159
Yeah, just in case, Yeah, just in case case you every want

1413
01:31:35.159 --> 01:31:38.159
to call us a week and be
like, yo, well credit card from

1414
01:31:38.159 --> 01:31:41.239
two thousand and seven. I just
want to know we live in the good

1415
01:31:41.239 --> 01:31:46.119
old days of credit before it was
really bad. Well, you had a

1416
01:31:46.199 --> 01:31:54.039
diners club card and uh the number
was seven. Tellis request player. He

1417
01:31:54.159 --> 01:31:57.680
was dead in two thousand seven.
You can repeat at the request. But

1418
01:31:57.880 --> 01:32:00.560
like, what kind of pizza we're
talking about? It? Get you take

1419
01:32:00.600 --> 01:32:02.520
in slash pizza? I think Dominoes. Okay, that was? That was

1420
01:32:02.600 --> 01:32:05.399
ever Quests pizza. That was like
fantasy pizza. I want space pizza.

1421
01:32:05.560 --> 01:32:11.279
That was I got to load a
planet side pizza. I'm sure that was

1422
01:32:11.319 --> 01:32:16.760
Pizza Hut. Also, yeah,
pizzas. Was there a slash Pizone?

1423
01:32:17.840 --> 01:32:21.039
What's the difference between the Pi zone
and a cow zone? Somebody please clarify

1424
01:32:21.239 --> 01:32:26.840
size pizone is a branded Pizza Hut
product. That is their version of a

1425
01:32:26.880 --> 01:32:31.479
cow zone, right, shittier?
Well, that's really implicit in the right.

1426
01:32:31.800 --> 01:32:36.199
It's you know, it's a friendlier
for handheld eating than a cow zone.

1427
01:32:36.199 --> 01:32:41.119
Maybe the Pizza Hut near us closed
went out of business. That happened.

1428
01:32:41.199 --> 01:32:45.079
That's pizza places go out of business. Apparently, there's no I can't

1429
01:32:45.159 --> 01:32:48.319
get a pizone, No in my
in my neck of the drive to get

1430
01:32:48.319 --> 01:32:53.479
a PI Zone, I'm not and
even to get dicey at best. But

1431
01:32:53.600 --> 01:32:56.760
actually the Little Caesars opened up basically
next door to where the pizza hut was,

1432
01:32:57.479 --> 01:33:00.600
so same owners. Hopefully, hopefully
water goes in, water goes out.

1433
01:33:00.800 --> 01:33:03.640
Yeah, we have to stop talking
about food. Little Caesar closes the

1434
01:33:03.680 --> 01:33:09.880
door and opens the window. Let's
let's let's move on. Okay, what

1435
01:33:09.960 --> 01:33:13.439
do we always why do we always
recorded the thing right around meal time or

1436
01:33:13.560 --> 01:33:16.439
like it's really no other all the
way because because it's always meals away all

1437
01:33:16.439 --> 01:33:23.039
the way through and pass either lunch
or dinner time. Uh Patrick, what

1438
01:33:23.079 --> 01:33:27.159
else is going on in the world
of news. We've got deal call it

1439
01:33:27.199 --> 01:33:30.359
deals he packs. We've got names
for these all now past I don't have

1440
01:33:30.439 --> 01:33:35.399
those in front of money honest honest
hearts, Old World Blues and Lonesome Road

1441
01:33:35.880 --> 01:33:39.680
can They said none of them will
do the broken Steel staff, so it's

1442
01:33:39.680 --> 01:33:42.439
all They confirmed that, Yeah,
it's none of it. Will continue to

1443
01:33:42.439 --> 01:33:45.319
pass the original campaign, even though
the last one that comes out in July

1444
01:33:46.439 --> 01:33:51.119
is ties sort of back into the
main campaign store with the platinum chip and

1445
01:33:51.399 --> 01:33:54.800
couriers. But in every case you're
gonna have to load up an old save

1446
01:33:55.079 --> 01:33:58.720
let them not save. You get
five, the level cap will get raised

1447
01:33:58.840 --> 01:34:00.880
fifty because you get like I have
extra levels for each DLC, I think,

1448
01:34:02.600 --> 01:34:05.479
I think, but I think you
can in the options you can like

1449
01:34:05.680 --> 01:34:09.800
hard, you can hard cap it
if you like want to artificially increase the

1450
01:34:09.800 --> 01:34:14.920
difficulty, but then you won't get
the extra traits. Yeah, I don't

1451
01:34:14.920 --> 01:34:16.560
know. I don't know why they
won't just let you keep saying so we

1452
01:34:16.640 --> 01:34:19.840
had they didn't. That story does
not end in a way that they couldn't

1453
01:34:19.880 --> 01:34:24.039
just let you keep going like that. I always thought that was going to

1454
01:34:24.079 --> 01:34:27.079
be the justification was, Oh,
the story will conclude in such a manner

1455
01:34:27.199 --> 01:34:30.399
that it's not feasible for them to
let you keep going, And it's it's

1456
01:34:30.479 --> 01:34:34.319
completely feasible to let you keep going
at the end of that game. I

1457
01:34:34.359 --> 01:34:39.560
wonder if that's in every ending,
though they're probably some endings that maybe leave

1458
01:34:39.600 --> 01:34:42.960
it as open as there's some endings
definitely a word. I think I've seen

1459
01:34:43.000 --> 01:34:46.760
most of the endings for for New
Vegas. Indeed, some of them are

1460
01:34:46.880 --> 01:34:50.479
more fun with with it, like
if you kept seeing the world after that

1461
01:34:50.640 --> 01:34:57.640
ending point, because there are there's
some kind of deliberately ut vague ending cops

1462
01:34:57.680 --> 01:35:01.239
everywhere on the strip, like what's
that actually? I mean, they could

1463
01:35:01.239 --> 01:35:05.960
have contrived it in some way other
than the clunky go load of previous say,

1464
01:35:06.039 --> 01:35:10.079
there's always a way to continue the
game. I mean just had just

1465
01:35:10.239 --> 01:35:13.840
like, look, man, this
takes place. These are separate stories.

1466
01:35:14.000 --> 01:35:16.199
The DLC is not connected to it
just loaded up from the side menu and

1467
01:35:16.600 --> 01:35:20.439
you load up an old save that
just loads in your character as or even

1468
01:35:20.640 --> 01:35:23.840
or even here is what you had
when you finished the game, all right,

1469
01:35:24.000 --> 01:35:26.279
because it's so clunky. How Yeah, you get like the little radio

1470
01:35:26.359 --> 01:35:30.199
signals and file that location and you
go into a little rabbit hole and it

1471
01:35:30.000 --> 01:35:33.840
somewhere you off somewhere completely different.
I will say so last week we had

1472
01:35:33.960 --> 01:35:39.520
a couple of Obsidian dudes in the
office to give us a lengthy quick look

1473
01:35:39.600 --> 01:35:45.039
at Dungeon Siege three, and I
will say that some of the most interesting

1474
01:35:45.079 --> 01:35:49.279
conversation I had with those dudes was
the difference between working with someone else's old,

1475
01:35:49.479 --> 01:35:55.680
old, old, old old technology
and running on your new custom built

1476
01:35:55.760 --> 01:35:59.880
engine. Uh, like what difference
that makes to the game development process?

1477
01:36:00.680 --> 01:36:03.960
And or was that just them saying, dude, dungeons each three is gonna

1478
01:36:03.960 --> 01:36:09.720
be awesome. Uh? That was
that was part of the implication. Yeah,

1479
01:36:10.039 --> 01:36:15.840
But also, uh, we're speaking
fairly frankly about about some some issues

1480
01:36:15.880 --> 01:36:18.720
with the same week that a patch
came out for New Vegas that you had

1481
01:36:18.800 --> 01:36:26.159
declined while they made another patch for
the patch for the patch yep, and

1482
01:36:26.439 --> 01:36:30.520
and you know those are those are
problems that have plagued fall Out since Fallout

1483
01:36:30.560 --> 01:36:33.119
three first came out like that.
You can't. I hope Skyrim is good.

1484
01:36:34.359 --> 01:36:36.880
It's pretty awesome. It wouldn't it
be messed up if Skyrim came out

1485
01:36:36.920 --> 01:36:41.359
and just had like all of these
same or a lot of these same sorts

1486
01:36:41.439 --> 01:36:45.239
of issues. There's there's still more
wind code still just like well, we

1487
01:36:45.279 --> 01:36:48.920
built a new renderer, but it's
still I really think that they have.

1488
01:36:49.159 --> 01:36:51.840
Yeah, hope. I'm not sure
people are going to give them a whole

1489
01:36:51.920 --> 01:36:56.079
lot Like, yeah, I think
you're right. First Gambrio was the renderer

1490
01:36:56.199 --> 01:36:59.840
that's going Okay, there is no
as far as I can tell, there's

1491
01:36:59.880 --> 01:37:02.239
no third party stuff in this.
They have written basically everything themselves. I

1492
01:37:02.800 --> 01:37:05.640
hope, but I mean, I
hope, I hope that game comes together.

1493
01:37:05.800 --> 01:37:10.239
We've really taken criticisms about like the
conversation and stuff to heart, and

1494
01:37:11.000 --> 01:37:13.359
hopefully it's even less. That's just
like you know, like getting stuck in

1495
01:37:13.399 --> 01:37:15.479
a pit when you're walking across the
world. I mean, I feel like

1496
01:37:15.520 --> 01:37:19.239
a game of that, any game
of that caliber of breadth, you have

1497
01:37:19.359 --> 01:37:23.520
to expect there to be some rough
spots like yeah, but this is you

1498
01:37:23.560 --> 01:37:28.479
can either go deep like you can't
do both. You know, the same

1499
01:37:28.560 --> 01:37:30.279
thing was making an excuse. I
mean it's the same thing with every open

1500
01:37:30.359 --> 01:37:33.399
world game, like even of the
GTA variety. But that's the games are

1501
01:37:33.479 --> 01:37:38.880
more broken than those other games.
Those games are like, oh, you're

1502
01:37:39.079 --> 01:37:43.560
save is on fire and all end
all this companion that you thought that you

1503
01:37:43.560 --> 01:37:45.279
were gonna be able to talk to
now just just gonna run into this wall.

1504
01:37:45.680 --> 01:37:50.880
And it's not just like because the
world is so open that it causes

1505
01:37:50.920 --> 01:37:57.359
these fundamental In that case, it's
it's that the character's potential behaviors are so

1506
01:37:57.520 --> 01:38:00.840
varied, Like there's so many different
things. What is in key for everything

1507
01:38:00.880 --> 01:38:02.399
to be broken? Where is it? It's in the scenario where I think

1508
01:38:02.439 --> 01:38:06.479
they just barely get by with it
because they make like these bigger and more

1509
01:38:06.560 --> 01:38:11.439
dynamic worlds than anybody. No,
nobody's come along and done it better.

1510
01:38:11.640 --> 01:38:14.079
I agree with you. No,
it is what I'm saying. I agree

1511
01:38:14.079 --> 01:38:15.279
with you that no one has has
come along and done it better. But

1512
01:38:15.560 --> 01:38:18.319
the downside is so significant. But
I feel like, like for me,

1513
01:38:18.439 --> 01:38:20.199
it was New Vegas was the point
where I was like, all right,

1514
01:38:20.279 --> 01:38:24.600
I'm kind of done. Yeah,
like putting up with I'm sure everybody has

1515
01:38:24.680 --> 01:38:27.479
their individual breaking point, but like
up to now, like, if you

1516
01:38:27.560 --> 01:38:29.920
want that kind of experience, that's
the only place to get it. Yeah,

1517
01:38:30.359 --> 01:38:33.279
And I'm just I hope that Skyrim. I mean, obviously it won't

1518
01:38:33.279 --> 01:38:38.640
be perfect, it'll have some issue
somewhere, but god, just better.

1519
01:38:38.760 --> 01:38:42.439
I'm excited. I'm excited for Dungeon
C's three. Yeah, yeah, what's

1520
01:38:42.520 --> 01:38:45.640
up with that game? That's It's
like, it's a Dunget Crawler. Do

1521
01:38:45.680 --> 01:38:48.479
you decide at some point to replace
your body parts with parts of goblins?

1522
01:38:48.560 --> 01:38:53.319
Decide if you want to be fully
human or fully dungeoned out. I can't

1523
01:38:53.359 --> 01:38:56.439
speak to that point just yet.
I haven't gotten there. That did not

1524
01:38:56.520 --> 01:39:01.199
just take the Space Siege Mechanic and
oh god game, Oh no, no,

1525
01:39:01.279 --> 01:39:04.479
no, no, this game is
all about fucking crazy loots that was

1526
01:39:04.520 --> 01:39:10.079
made by different company? Was it? That was actually gay? It was

1527
01:39:10.079 --> 01:39:13.279
the last game they made before They're
like whoa, we should make these games.

1528
01:39:13.399 --> 01:39:16.479
Yeah. No, this is actually
made by Obsidian, uh, published

1529
01:39:16.520 --> 01:39:24.760
by Square Annex, which is weird
because it is a gas power that's still

1530
01:39:24.800 --> 01:39:30.840
weird. It was all the faculty
stuff that still weird, still idols now

1531
01:39:30.960 --> 01:39:35.199
or whatever. It's still just really
weird. Effectively effectively, yeah, I

1532
01:39:35.239 --> 01:39:38.520
don't know. I played it on
three sixty. I like a good dungeon

1533
01:39:38.560 --> 01:39:42.720
crawler. It seems like it is
that. Uh. The quality of the

1534
01:39:42.840 --> 01:39:46.399
riding seems up to Obsidian snuff,
which for me, like for for all

1535
01:39:46.399 --> 01:39:49.920
of the busted stuff that has been
in their busted ass games, the writing

1536
01:39:49.960 --> 01:39:55.359
has always been pretty consistently great in
Obsidian products. Because I don't know anything

1537
01:39:55.359 --> 01:39:59.079
about the dungeon sie story world still
watched In the Name of the King,

1538
01:39:59.159 --> 01:40:04.079
You'll be all cut up, boom, you're all You're all good. Uh.

1539
01:40:04.479 --> 01:40:10.000
You know it's it's kind of typical
fantasy with some steam punky shit in

1540
01:40:10.079 --> 01:40:14.159
it now, because you can't have
you can't have fantasy without some sci fi

1541
01:40:14.279 --> 01:40:16.720
in it. At this point,
you're ever you're allowed to have guns,

1542
01:40:16.840 --> 01:40:21.880
regardless of if it's supposed to be
medieval times or not. Uh. Basically,

1543
01:40:21.920 --> 01:40:28.119
what that comes down to but yeah, the quality of the writing,

1544
01:40:28.159 --> 01:40:30.159
what little of it even that I
saw during the recording of that lengthy,

1545
01:40:30.279 --> 01:40:34.600
lengthy quick look, Uh, seemed
seemed really good and reminded me of the

1546
01:40:34.680 --> 01:40:39.600
stuff that I really enjoyed and and
why I put up with as much of

1547
01:40:40.119 --> 01:40:43.479
New Vegas as bullshit as I did
was because of the quality of the character

1548
01:40:43.520 --> 01:40:46.239
work in the writing. So they
can keep that up in Dungeon Seas three,

1549
01:40:46.279 --> 01:40:53.399
I will be a happy camper.
Uh. Battle Los Angeles coming to

1550
01:40:53.439 --> 01:40:58.439
Blue Ray. If you buy that
ship, you'll get into the Resistance three

1551
01:40:59.000 --> 01:41:01.319
multiplayer demo. Wait, isn't it
on the No, it's a single player.

1552
01:41:01.640 --> 01:41:03.800
Yeah, it's like an actual demo. It's like the boat level.

1553
01:41:03.880 --> 01:41:08.159
That's that's like on the disc,
isn't it, Yes, the level.

1554
01:41:08.239 --> 01:41:10.760
Yeah, it's totally different. That
is completely all right, let's start this

1555
01:41:10.880 --> 01:41:15.560
over then, Battle Los Angeles out
on Blu Ray comes with Resistance three single

1556
01:41:15.640 --> 01:41:17.560
player demo. Yeah, the boat
level, the one that I think they

1557
01:41:17.560 --> 01:41:21.359
showed that at three years in a
trailer or I don't. I don't remember.

1558
01:41:21.399 --> 01:41:26.800
No boat they're showing boat stuff.
Asks me anything about Resistance three,

1559
01:41:26.840 --> 01:41:30.319
I remember, gas station asks me
anything about Resistance too. All right,

1560
01:41:30.359 --> 01:41:34.279
I don't know any versus too.
What's up wasn't very good? Guys,

1561
01:41:35.439 --> 01:41:40.760
there's eat the bad. What's up
with the alien the bad guys? Yes,

1562
01:41:41.159 --> 01:41:45.520
great, they're infecting wins, they're
infecting regular dudes. Congratulations, you

1563
01:41:45.560 --> 01:41:51.000
get to review. Oh man,
I really don't say. They've got the

1564
01:41:51.000 --> 01:41:56.279
single player demo and then also purchasers
have so calm for get into the multiplayer

1565
01:41:56.720 --> 01:42:01.479
beta for sure. Du Listance three
at some point about Resistance, I like,

1566
01:42:01.720 --> 01:42:03.760
the first one, okay, is
a launch game. The second one

1567
01:42:03.880 --> 01:42:08.319
was just awful. I beat it. The story didn't make any sense,

1568
01:42:09.039 --> 01:42:13.000
especially because they hid all the story
elements and collectibles because that was cool.

1569
01:42:13.359 --> 01:42:17.239
I mean you literally did not understand
the story unless you read the hidden collectible

1570
01:42:17.319 --> 01:42:20.960
bullshit. Like like even the main
story arc did not make any sense.

1571
01:42:20.960 --> 01:42:24.199
I remember I found one by accident. I was like, oh, that

1572
01:42:24.319 --> 01:42:28.560
man that makes the last four levels, Like okay, sure they seem they

1573
01:42:28.600 --> 01:42:30.039
seem like they're really taking their time
with this one. It looks good from

1574
01:42:30.039 --> 01:42:34.680
what I say, plenty of crow
over and like it's like, yeah,

1575
01:42:35.079 --> 01:42:39.560
our production proba you play the PSP
game. Yeah, Well, I'm talking

1576
01:42:39.560 --> 01:42:44.720
about a real first shooter developed by
Insomniacs, that that PSP game is a

1577
01:42:44.760 --> 01:42:47.239
total offshoot, right, it was
kind of okay for what it was.

1578
01:42:47.520 --> 01:42:49.960
It was not bad. Yeah,
that was. It wasn't a Sony Bend

1579
01:42:50.840 --> 01:42:54.840
it was. It was. I
think they're doing the new one too.

1580
01:42:55.600 --> 01:43:00.359
The MGP makes sense, Yes,
that's because I want to play those games.

1581
01:43:00.520 --> 01:43:03.319
Unapportable. I thought I saw that. I thought. I think I

1582
01:43:03.600 --> 01:43:08.039
remember hearing that that Sony Bend was
were doing Resistance also on that GP.

1583
01:43:08.279 --> 01:43:15.159
Wait, you mean I'm sorry uncharted? Possibly, Yeah, it's not it's

1584
01:43:15.199 --> 01:43:16.880
not sure. Yeah, I wonder
I want to say I heard that too.

1585
01:43:16.960 --> 01:43:19.279
Maybe maybe they have become a two
game studio. I don't know.

1586
01:43:20.119 --> 01:43:24.399
So Battle Los Angeles isn't very good, right, No, I didn't.

1587
01:43:25.600 --> 01:43:29.760
I love me some Independence Day,
I love Aliens. It's not good.

1588
01:43:30.079 --> 01:43:34.199
It's not worth, not worth taking
the bullet on buying on buying Battle Los

1589
01:43:34.239 --> 01:43:41.000
Angeles, trying to actually tell a
friend that the movie is really good,

1590
01:43:41.239 --> 01:43:44.760
see if they'll like the bullet And
you're saying, can someone else into buying

1591
01:43:44.800 --> 01:43:47.800
it? And then jack their disks
a pizza from Netflix or something. It

1592
01:43:47.840 --> 01:43:53.960
sounds like a long con here,
that version probably won't make it onto the

1593
01:43:54.000 --> 01:43:58.760
Netflix version. The last disc that
I got from Netflix back in January.

1594
01:43:58.960 --> 01:44:01.640
Uh huh. Keeping my Netflix que
nice and I've had I've had my last

1595
01:44:01.680 --> 01:44:04.800
disc for a year. I have
my discs are about two years old.

1596
01:44:04.840 --> 01:44:10.119
I just sent back that copy of
green Zone, and I think there's a

1597
01:44:10.159 --> 01:44:13.560
copy of Windy City Heat sitting in
my mailbox for like the last four days.

1598
01:44:13.760 --> 01:44:16.680
I never want to watch You're your
monthly check in on our shitty Netflix

1599
01:44:16.800 --> 01:44:19.960
cues. I busted my account down
to one disc about six months ago.

1600
01:44:20.119 --> 01:44:24.319
I still have the three discs that
I had before that. That's bad.

1601
01:44:24.600 --> 01:44:28.359
Don't they eventually charge you for just
having those discs out? They're pretty lenient

1602
01:44:28.399 --> 01:44:30.640
on that check man, Alex.
Alex told me that they just simply wouldn't

1603
01:44:30.680 --> 01:44:33.359
send you anything until you sent them
all back, So all right, don't

1604
01:44:33.399 --> 01:44:36.079
send them back. And I'm never
gonna watch Benjamin Button ever, So I

1605
01:44:36.119 --> 01:44:43.279
should probably streaming in your stream such
more efficient method of putting shit into your

1606
01:44:43.279 --> 01:44:45.960
streaming que and then never watching it
there. I think all three of them

1607
01:44:45.000 --> 01:44:48.800
are on the streaming and never having
to even take them at the discs sent

1608
01:44:48.840 --> 01:44:53.600
to you. You can just pretend
like you're going to watch The Sting and

1609
01:44:53.880 --> 01:44:57.359
two thousand and one and Dog Day
Afternoon Forever. Although if it's it's a

1610
01:44:57.399 --> 01:44:59.600
star's play version of the movie,
then it might as well not be on

1611
01:44:59.640 --> 01:45:03.640
there at SD. That one is
a Benjamin button. It is most new

1612
01:45:03.680 --> 01:45:08.560
stuff is there'ld be portal two deals. See sorry about three DS AAR code

1613
01:45:08.640 --> 01:45:12.119
tattoos and what a bad idea.
That is such a terrible idea, But

1614
01:45:12.239 --> 01:45:15.800
you know it's a good idea.
Was doing that in an impermanent marker based

1615
01:45:15.840 --> 01:45:17.560
fashion on your skin and see if
you can get that to work. Yeah,

1616
01:45:17.640 --> 01:45:20.439
that's that's a better ideas. It's
an okay idea. When we first

1617
01:45:20.479 --> 01:45:24.640
got the three DS, me and
I Vinnie went around like photocopying the AR

1618
01:45:24.760 --> 01:45:28.119
cards to see if we could just
bootleg them and yeah, totally even a

1619
01:45:28.159 --> 01:45:33.039
black and white photocopy of the questions
a pattern something like that. Yeah,

1620
01:45:33.119 --> 01:45:36.439
it didn't work as well as the
actual cards and we could barely We couldn't

1621
01:45:36.439 --> 01:45:41.520
really get it to read off of
a picturephone screen. Okay, yeah,

1622
01:45:41.520 --> 01:45:43.399
I would flick it, would like, would read it for a second and

1623
01:45:43.560 --> 01:45:45.159
be like nope, it's gone.
Like Okay, No it's back. No,

1624
01:45:45.199 --> 01:45:47.439
it's gone. So it's just it's
very specific about the angle that they

1625
01:45:47.439 --> 01:45:50.600
could view it from. Yeah,
couldn't get it to read off an iPhone

1626
01:45:50.640 --> 01:45:54.960
screen very well at all. Don't
get, don't get air codes, don't

1627
01:45:55.000 --> 01:45:57.880
get QR codes tattooed on you,
don't get, don't get, don't get

1628
01:45:57.920 --> 01:46:01.560
tattoos. Just come on, it's
it's ridiculous. It's really cool stuff.

1629
01:46:01.800 --> 01:46:04.479
That's okay. If you get really
like R, yeah, like a really

1630
01:46:04.520 --> 01:46:08.439
cool QR code. Then when you
take a picture of it, Pizza takes

1631
01:46:08.479 --> 01:46:15.239
you pizza photo of one of those
snake eyes storm shadow tattoos. I'll get

1632
01:46:15.239 --> 01:46:21.039
a tattoo of a tattoo Silk silkind
Knights is going to keep making to get

1633
01:46:21.079 --> 01:46:26.359
a tattoo of a bicep with a
tattoo on it. Yeah, No,

1634
01:46:26.439 --> 01:46:29.199
I'm gonna get a tattoo of a
bicep with a QR code on it.

1635
01:46:29.359 --> 01:46:30.640
When you take a picture of that
QR code, it loads up a photo

1636
01:46:30.800 --> 01:46:34.520
of a bicep with a tattoo on
it. Right, And then when you

1637
01:46:34.600 --> 01:46:39.560
scan it in you get portal two
free DLC a week. You scan that

1638
01:46:39.640 --> 01:46:42.359
in, you get ten percent off
of a bicep tattoo. Yes, and

1639
01:46:42.439 --> 01:46:45.960
you get a phone number for a
BBS. It's a Valve open a tattoo

1640
01:46:45.960 --> 01:46:48.199
parlor, is what you're saying.
Basically, Yeah, Okay, sil Kind

1641
01:46:48.279 --> 01:46:50.640
Nights is gonna keep making two human
games. Wait, we're still not going

1642
01:46:50.680 --> 01:46:59.079
to talk about the portals. Oh
what we did? It's guess it will

1643
01:46:59.079 --> 01:47:05.159
be three di didn' they say there
was gonna be some single player stuff they

1644
01:47:06.720 --> 01:47:11.520
like challenge and leaderboards, and then
there was an ambiguous and more. Well,

1645
01:47:12.079 --> 01:47:14.880
so I'll be curiously if they find
any narrative even yeah, I mean

1646
01:47:14.920 --> 01:47:16.720
even the co op has plenty of
voiceover and stuff. My question is,

1647
01:47:16.800 --> 01:47:20.520
yeah, will there be any new
views? Like? My guess is that

1648
01:47:20.600 --> 01:47:25.680
yeah. They're probably more more ambitious
than portals because it's there's still a live

1649
01:47:25.720 --> 01:47:29.680
stuff wasn't even made by Valve.
That's was that was the two D portal

1650
01:47:30.319 --> 01:47:33.239
levels that made from very it enter
three D portal levels and just they charged

1651
01:47:33.279 --> 01:47:39.800
for it on XPLA. They're not
going to continue to whom I call bullshit

1652
01:47:39.920 --> 01:47:45.359
on that they intend to because they
have a lawsuit going intends to do a

1653
01:47:45.399 --> 01:47:47.479
lot of things. It sounds like
they wish they could or something, you

1654
01:47:47.560 --> 01:47:51.199
know, I wish they would.
I would love to see them continue the

1655
01:47:51.239 --> 01:47:56.079
Too Human trilogy. Would you love
to play another two Human if they fixed

1656
01:47:56.119 --> 01:48:00.520
it? Yeah? Maybe? Sure? To Human wasn't the worst thing I've

1657
01:48:00.520 --> 01:48:03.640
ever played. It just was a
game with significant issues that made it not

1658
01:48:03.840 --> 01:48:08.800
fun worth playing in this day and
age for any reason whatsoever. No,

1659
01:48:09.119 --> 01:48:11.760
No, don't really. I mean, if you can get it for really

1660
01:48:11.840 --> 01:48:14.439
cheap, I bought it. I
don't. People make the argument for co

1661
01:48:14.600 --> 01:48:17.000
op being is that good, mildly
fun? But the inventory management is apparently

1662
01:48:17.680 --> 01:48:23.239
inventory management nightmare. Oh, And
I will say that against Days X is

1663
01:48:23.359 --> 01:48:27.520
that they tried treating inventory management as
a positive bullet point in that game,

1664
01:48:28.000 --> 01:48:30.600
And I don't. I don't care
if you're going for old school flavor because

1665
01:48:30.600 --> 01:48:32.920
you had to do the puzzle stuff
in the original day Sax, we rotating

1666
01:48:32.960 --> 01:48:39.960
your weapons and your items to try
and fit everything. That's I don't want

1667
01:48:40.000 --> 01:48:44.359
to do that. Yes, sighting
like inventory management as anything other than we

1668
01:48:44.479 --> 01:48:47.319
got rid of it as as a
bullet point on your power point. I

1669
01:48:47.399 --> 01:48:51.960
just remember talking to Dennis Dyak about
like what his favorite character class was,

1670
01:48:53.000 --> 01:48:59.199
and he said it's not in the
game yet, that's right. And about

1671
01:48:59.239 --> 01:49:01.159
the first, the first one,
it was gonna be like it was gonna

1672
01:49:01.159 --> 01:49:03.920
be like it was like it or
maybe it was gonna end up in DLC

1673
01:49:04.159 --> 01:49:06.399
or something like that. But you
know, none of that ever happened.

1674
01:49:09.279 --> 01:49:13.399
And I have to know, just
give us a shout, you have to

1675
01:49:13.479 --> 01:49:16.000
know, tell us what you had
in mind for two human it's good doing

1676
01:49:16.039 --> 01:49:21.119
a his trilogies before the first one
does well. It always works out nicely.

1677
01:49:23.520 --> 01:49:26.119
So wait, why is there a
story about True Crime getting canceled?

1678
01:49:26.119 --> 01:49:29.600
When True Crime got canceled a while
ago. Oh, that was just the

1679
01:49:29.720 --> 01:49:33.560
last bits from my memos. So
there was one Eric Herstberg, one of

1680
01:49:33.600 --> 01:49:38.520
the he's the guy that sort of
pulled the plug on it and he just

1681
01:49:38.600 --> 01:49:41.439
had tom like rather than like the
builder plate like, yo, the game

1682
01:49:41.479 --> 01:49:44.880
wasn't gonna be good. Like he
actually made sort of a heartfelt sort of

1683
01:49:44.960 --> 01:49:49.720
explanation about why he chose to pull
the plug. It was interesting. Yeah,

1684
01:49:49.720 --> 01:49:53.159
it was like a you know,
kind of a human side. Yeah.

1685
01:49:53.319 --> 01:49:55.800
Yeah, Like there was one quote
from Thomas Tibo was like the CEO

1686
01:49:56.000 --> 01:49:58.600
and that was the standard. Like, yeah, the game was over budget

1687
01:49:58.640 --> 01:50:00.920
and it wasn't before him and then
Mark place in this competitive open world genre,

1688
01:50:01.079 --> 01:50:04.840
which is basically like it wasn't gonna
be any better than GTA five whenever

1689
01:50:04.960 --> 01:50:08.680
that comes out, and the other
guy tried to make a little more of

1690
01:50:08.720 --> 01:50:12.600
a nuanced description of it. But
the game had been delayed significantly twice,

1691
01:50:12.760 --> 01:50:15.800
and the budget was crazy, and
the way the way it was crazy about

1692
01:50:15.800 --> 01:50:17.840
the game got canceled. It was
like when I was at DGM, we

1693
01:50:17.960 --> 01:50:20.960
had a writer go up and see
it, yeah, like weeks before,

1694
01:50:21.439 --> 01:50:25.359
and then I know producers that were
working on that game that had just flown

1695
01:50:25.399 --> 01:50:28.279
back from working on that game,
and I was the one that delivered the

1696
01:50:28.319 --> 01:50:30.640
news like, hey, your game
got canceled, Like what, Like,

1697
01:50:30.720 --> 01:50:33.800
oh, all right, I gotta
go, Like it sounded very last minute

1698
01:50:33.800 --> 01:50:39.960
to just get like a balance sheet
adjusted. I mean, I remember when

1699
01:50:39.960 --> 01:50:44.479
they announced that game and first showed
it. You went, Ryan, yeah,

1700
01:50:44.880 --> 01:50:47.880
and I remember you're coming back going
like, yeah, now they shouldn't

1701
01:50:47.880 --> 01:50:53.800
they shouldn't make this game. I
was frankly fucking relieved when I when they

1702
01:50:53.880 --> 01:50:56.279
finally acted it. I was like, Oh, they should have done that

1703
01:50:56.960 --> 01:50:59.760
sooner, because they had already by
the time they shoot it to us.

1704
01:50:59.800 --> 01:51:01.840
They talking about how we had already
changed a lot based on feedback that we

1705
01:51:01.880 --> 01:51:04.720
got from early builds, and you
know, this was gonna bet you were

1706
01:51:04.800 --> 01:51:08.920
off the rails. It's like your
first president is used as a way to

1707
01:51:09.079 --> 01:51:14.760
change and it was the first time
it was being shown to us. Was

1708
01:51:14.880 --> 01:51:16.880
this was this was like the big
reveal for Hey, we're making a new

1709
01:51:16.920 --> 01:51:20.840
true true time game. Why are
you making a new look? That?

1710
01:51:21.319 --> 01:51:25.399
That was my franchise. That was
my exploratory job, was why are you

1711
01:51:25.479 --> 01:51:29.479
doing this? What the first game
had like some interesting ideas. The second

1712
01:51:29.520 --> 01:51:32.920
game was nothing. Streets of La
was the first one. Yeah, Streets

1713
01:51:32.920 --> 01:51:35.439
of La was the first one,
and I had that West Side Connection song

1714
01:51:35.520 --> 01:51:39.079
in it before that album was out, and everything was the only good thing

1715
01:51:39.159 --> 01:51:45.119
about No No, also all cursing
in all of the raps. True.

1716
01:51:45.319 --> 01:51:47.680
Yes, the soundtrack was uncensored.
That was a revolutionary at the time.

1717
01:51:47.800 --> 01:51:53.159
Yeah, absolutely, And you know
they did they did their their part in

1718
01:51:53.239 --> 01:51:55.239
trying to map it. After Real
La, you could, you know,

1719
01:51:55.399 --> 01:51:59.720
drive past the Staple Center and like
and there's no traffic anywhere. Ever.

1720
01:52:00.239 --> 01:52:01.920
It's right, there's there's no traffic
anywhere ever. So it's true to life

1721
01:52:02.520 --> 01:52:06.680
in that regard. Yeah. Yeah, the first game had like those hooks

1722
01:52:06.720 --> 01:52:11.159
as interesting ideas. But then I
just never understood why, like why bring

1723
01:52:11.279 --> 01:52:13.560
back true crime other than like,
hey, we want to make an open

1724
01:52:13.600 --> 01:52:15.119
world game. You know what brands
do we have in the garbage that we

1725
01:52:15.199 --> 01:52:19.560
could slap on it? You know, really bring back the warm feelings everyone

1726
01:52:19.640 --> 01:52:25.319
had for a true crime And also
you know, it's also the thing of

1727
01:52:25.359 --> 01:52:28.760
like all this stuff brought back exactly
the same feelings that I had about True

1728
01:52:28.800 --> 01:52:30.760
Crime previously. It's just like,
why would you do this? Oh wait,

1729
01:52:31.000 --> 01:52:33.359
you're you're you don't want to go
all the way and have you play

1730
01:52:33.359 --> 01:52:35.520
as a criminal, So you're gonna
make it so you play as a cop.

1731
01:52:36.680 --> 01:52:41.479
Who made the true crime games?
That was? Yeah, it was

1732
01:52:41.560 --> 01:52:45.720
Lucks of Flux. Yeah, no, that's right. In the early like

1733
01:52:45.279 --> 01:52:48.399
days of the first True Crime game, you were not a cop at all,

1734
01:52:48.560 --> 01:52:51.159
Right, yeah, I think so. And then they and then they

1735
01:52:51.199 --> 01:52:55.520
switched it. They're like, you're
gonna be a cop because we realize we

1736
01:52:55.560 --> 01:52:59.000
don't have the guts to have this
big cop killing game out here. We're

1737
01:52:59.000 --> 01:53:00.800
a public public a company, and
you know, we don't want the heat

1738
01:53:02.359 --> 01:53:08.840
rock Star can can so call that
up on their own. Indeed, that's

1739
01:53:08.880 --> 01:53:12.560
all I got for news anything else, Patrick, that you'll let us know

1740
01:53:12.680 --> 01:53:16.840
when PlayStation Network comes back up and
ship is now broke. I just I

1741
01:53:16.840 --> 01:53:19.159
don't know that that I'll ever be
the case at this point. What if

1742
01:53:19.199 --> 01:53:21.159
it was what if it was fixed? While we've been in here and I'm

1743
01:53:21.159 --> 01:53:24.479
gonna check. I've been looking,
I've been checking on my on my giant

1744
01:53:24.520 --> 01:53:27.600
Internet tablet, and you let me
use my smaller Internet tablet. Okay,

1745
01:53:27.640 --> 01:53:30.880
you let me know what you're Internet
tablet says. I think you go to

1746
01:53:30.960 --> 01:53:33.079
like what is PSN still down dot
com? I don't trust that guy.

1747
01:53:33.119 --> 01:53:36.600
I don't trust that that's actually pinging
anything. That's just a guy that's gonna

1748
01:53:36.640 --> 01:53:48.479
update a page eventually maybe nothing.
I got nothing. I've got so so

1749
01:53:48.720 --> 01:53:53.239
current, still current excellence. Why
don't you go to is is PSN still

1750
01:53:53.279 --> 01:53:58.600
down? Still down dot com and
check on that We're not going down that

1751
01:53:58.720 --> 01:54:04.399
rabbit holes? But only if there's
a picture of Chris Remo and Sequila Neli.

1752
01:54:06.039 --> 01:54:12.159
Again, the the Cocaine Mountain School
of Design is in full effect out

1753
01:54:12.199 --> 01:54:16.319
there, and I'm happy to see
it having, you know, positive impacts

1754
01:54:17.319 --> 01:54:23.399
on the youth. Dumb ass shit. Oh all right, new releases,

1755
01:54:23.439 --> 01:54:30.279
let's talk about them. There aren't
any great four is that out this week?

1756
01:54:30.399 --> 01:54:34.359
That is out this week? Crap
liquid entertainment? Yep, what what

1757
01:54:34.439 --> 01:54:45.039
else have they done? That's a
They started with Battle Realms PCs years and

1758
01:54:45.159 --> 01:54:50.800
years like a decade ago. They
did the Desperate Housewives. Okay, alright,

1759
01:54:51.159 --> 01:54:54.680
yes, and if I'm warming up
to this Thoor thing, they start

1760
01:54:54.720 --> 01:54:56.960
off with that stuff. They've been
just kind of a bad gun for higher

1761
01:54:57.000 --> 01:55:01.359
for they did that Jason and the
Argonauts game for codemstr All right. Thor

1762
01:55:01.600 --> 01:55:04.640
is playable in three D on the
Xbox three sixty, so says the box,

1763
01:55:05.399 --> 01:55:09.079
which we got in today. So
we should probably crack that open and

1764
01:55:09.119 --> 01:55:12.560
play it at some point, as
I imagine you will hit the fucking dudes

1765
01:55:12.600 --> 01:55:14.920
in the face with a hammer over
and over again, I should hope.

1766
01:55:14.960 --> 01:55:18.920
So right, the back of the
WE box says exclusive flight levels. All

1767
01:55:19.000 --> 01:55:23.880
fucking thank god. I'm glad we
got that version. We got both,

1768
01:55:23.880 --> 01:55:26.600
we got three sixty and we got
WE so we got WE first, and

1769
01:55:26.640 --> 01:55:30.399
I'm like, really, no,
I wouldn't have thought that it was the

1770
01:55:30.720 --> 01:55:35.560
version box exclusive flight levels. You
know you can fly. You wouldn't think

1771
01:55:35.560 --> 01:55:39.960
Thor could fly fly. I wouldn't
think that Thor could fly. Well,

1772
01:55:39.960 --> 01:55:45.560
I don't know anything about Thor other
than he's game because I've got those comic

1773
01:55:45.600 --> 01:55:48.079
books. Tips off his helmet or
whatever. Because of the hammer. The

1774
01:55:48.119 --> 01:55:51.079
hammer makes it fly, The hammer
makes it hangs on his back. It's

1775
01:55:51.079 --> 01:55:57.239
a magic fucking hammer. Dog doesn't
like right a pegasis or something. No,

1776
01:55:57.359 --> 01:56:01.439
he's just he just hangs under the
hammer. That seems a captain caveman.

1777
01:56:01.560 --> 01:56:04.640
He just grabs onto the club.
And he's not even really like flying

1778
01:56:04.640 --> 01:56:09.640
as much as he's just hanging onto
the damn hammer and going wherever he wills

1779
01:56:09.680 --> 01:56:12.319
the hammer to go. I think
if you let's go the hammer, he's

1780
01:56:12.319 --> 01:56:16.319
boned. Okay, that kind of
gloves, dude, grip that hammer.

1781
01:56:17.079 --> 01:56:23.039
He's Thor. Can Thor create a
hammer so heavy that not even he can

1782
01:56:23.079 --> 01:56:27.439
lift it. Thor can't make hammers. He's not a hammer smith. He's

1783
01:56:27.439 --> 01:56:31.720
a god. He's like all powerful. Yeah, he's he's a real god.

1784
01:56:32.159 --> 01:56:35.159
He's an elder god. He gets
he gets thrown out of asgar to

1785
01:56:36.359 --> 01:56:42.319
Rading goes to him and says like, you gotta stop. Guess, I

1786
01:56:42.319 --> 01:56:44.680
guess they're kind of equivalence, right, they're just stop making these. Thor

1787
01:56:44.800 --> 01:56:48.720
is kind of a thunder godetting bad
video games. Yeah, Thor is absolutely

1788
01:56:48.840 --> 01:56:55.680
the god of Thunder. Where's the
Raiding game? He's a raiding an unlockable

1789
01:56:55.720 --> 01:57:02.239
god, and Thor once you fins
got exclusive fucking flight levels. Once you

1790
01:57:02.319 --> 01:57:05.840
finished Thor, you unlock the raiding
skin you played through at a second time.

1791
01:57:06.199 --> 01:57:11.439
Right, Not since Unreal Championship two
have I been so excited the inclusions

1792
01:57:11.560 --> 01:57:16.600
of Yes, exactly. I feel
like we've talked too much about Unreal Championship

1793
01:57:16.680 --> 01:57:21.399
recently to not go dig up copies
of those first two games. The first

1794
01:57:21.439 --> 01:57:27.960
two games, there's only two games, Like I was saying that as ever

1795
01:57:28.000 --> 01:57:31.399
reboot as my iPad was dying,
so I was distracted there, Okay,

1796
01:57:31.560 --> 01:57:34.760
I need to charge back up my
eyes. Those were Xbox exclusive games,

1797
01:57:34.800 --> 01:57:38.680
weren't they? Yes? Yes,
yeah, with like a melee focus,

1798
01:57:38.920 --> 01:57:44.239
yes, like third person midway published. The second one was like they were

1799
01:57:44.319 --> 01:57:46.760
both kind of all right yea,
as they were like, well, it's

1800
01:57:46.840 --> 01:57:51.600
like the Unreal of that period had
you entering like MK fight combos to turn

1801
01:57:51.720 --> 01:57:57.800
on where special abilities and shit like
they were obviously taking fighting a fighting game

1802
01:57:57.920 --> 01:58:00.760
kind of angled to some of that
stuff. I went to Epic to see

1803
01:58:00.840 --> 01:58:05.680
Unreal Championship too, flew across the
country to see that game they made.

1804
01:58:05.720 --> 01:58:10.520
They made that internally, Uh,
it was being shown there. I don't

1805
01:58:10.520 --> 01:58:15.039
know everything. I think they did. Yeah, they totally did. And

1806
01:58:15.119 --> 01:58:19.359
there was a bunch of Years for
two yes, huh. And there was

1807
01:58:19.359 --> 01:58:23.359
a bunch of Gears of War concept
are all over the place and I saw

1808
01:58:23.399 --> 01:58:26.439
it was like engine and they were
like, oh, you shouldn't have seen

1809
01:58:26.520 --> 01:58:29.439
that because they had not announced a
product back when there was like dark,

1810
01:58:29.520 --> 01:58:31.640
I didn't know what it was.
I saw the Brewmac and I was like,

1811
01:58:31.760 --> 01:58:35.560
oh, that's the thing from the
Unreal Tech demo. Yeah, I

1812
01:58:35.600 --> 01:58:39.520
wonder what these guys are doing.
They're like I used, they hadn't even

1813
01:58:39.520 --> 01:58:42.960
announced, like the Gears of War
as a as a brand did not exist

1814
01:58:43.000 --> 01:58:44.800
at that point. I was just
like, huh, that looks interesting,

1815
01:58:44.840 --> 01:58:45.880
and they were like forgetting you saw
that. I hope they bring back on

1816
01:58:46.000 --> 01:58:49.199
Real Tournament at some point. And
I feel like I'm like one of seven

1817
01:58:49.239 --> 01:58:54.199
people that think they're gonna bring back
Unreal anything. I think they should after

1818
01:58:54.319 --> 01:58:57.079
I would I would love to see
them get back to the deathmatch shooter business.

1819
01:58:57.119 --> 01:59:00.760
Yeah, but dude, U T
three was such a bath that I

1820
01:59:00.800 --> 01:59:02.840
mean maybe even when I play too
soon, Maybe they made money on it

1821
01:59:02.880 --> 01:59:06.159
eventually, but like that first month
or two was krim. I think that's

1822
01:59:06.199 --> 01:59:10.560
gonna be a hard sell to Mark
Rain to bring back on real tournament after

1823
01:59:10.760 --> 01:59:14.680
the inglorious death What do you sell
it to me? Like? It was

1824
01:59:14.760 --> 01:59:17.840
just because it was it was like, people, are you prepared to buy

1825
01:59:17.920 --> 01:59:21.920
five million copies of unreal terment?
They could do maybe as a downloadable,

1826
01:59:23.119 --> 01:59:26.520
but I don't see how you sell
that as a retail products. It's the

1827
01:59:26.600 --> 01:59:30.439
time from the style of shooters and
even just epics like focus on that style

1828
01:59:30.479 --> 01:59:32.840
of game. Point Like at some
point, you know it's gonna go circle

1829
01:59:32.880 --> 01:59:35.279
back around and be like, all
right, we're gonna make Quake five and

1830
01:59:35.279 --> 01:59:40.039
they're gonna need to come up with
a multiplayer component to that, and hopefully

1831
01:59:40.079 --> 01:59:44.600
it'll be what you want out a
Quake, I guess, or maybe Quake

1832
01:59:44.640 --> 01:59:49.680
three already does that. Yeah.
Problem is that like only nether Realms,

1833
01:59:50.399 --> 01:59:57.319
like that's the only developer that has
maintained any sort of like design team consistency

1834
01:59:57.560 --> 02:00:03.319
from Original Incarnation too now like such
turnover at like A at Epic or at

1835
02:00:03.359 --> 02:00:06.239
any of these other developers. Cliff
has been there since jazz Jack Rabbit,

1836
02:00:06.239 --> 02:00:13.199
I mean, has been his influence
on like Unreal Tournament. It's like,

1837
02:00:13.279 --> 02:00:15.640
yeah, he's been there, but
he hasn't been the lead. Dude,

1838
02:00:15.680 --> 02:00:18.239
they're making the fucking calls. They
just man, you just come out the

1839
02:00:18.439 --> 02:00:23.399
Unreal Tournament and you put it out. It's the first Unreal Engine four game.

1840
02:00:24.640 --> 02:00:27.640
My points, I think you have
to have that sort of these ideas.

1841
02:00:27.800 --> 02:00:30.520
Yeah, you have to have that
sandam into a microphone. That's sort

1842
02:00:30.560 --> 02:00:33.279
of insight though. I think you
have to have that sort of of context

1843
02:00:33.399 --> 02:00:35.880
to have that sort of insight that
when you bring it back, you know

1844
02:00:36.039 --> 02:00:40.119
what to bring back. I guess
yeah. Plus, don't you remember the

1845
02:00:40.159 --> 02:00:43.479
story and Unreal Tournament three? Don't
you remember? I do? Don't you

1846
02:00:44.000 --> 02:00:49.399
lamb field Lattest general latt generators of
the field. I really wanted to like

1847
02:00:49.520 --> 02:00:55.920
that game. Yeah, they're just
they're they're too invested in their gear.

1848
02:00:56.079 --> 02:01:00.560
Everything looks like gears. But you
know what Unreal Tournament three look like fucking

1849
02:01:00.640 --> 02:01:02.560
gears exactly. That's my problem.
That's like part of the problem with it.

1850
02:01:03.560 --> 02:01:09.359
It's it's not the defining problem of
Unreal Tournament three. It's not the

1851
02:01:09.439 --> 02:01:13.239
aesthetic. Well, I'm gonna go
home and install Unreal Tournament three and play

1852
02:01:13.239 --> 02:01:15.960
it with the people who are still
playing. What would you like the ballpark?

1853
02:01:16.439 --> 02:01:21.600
What number would you say this install
of Unreal Tournament three, five or

1854
02:01:21.720 --> 02:01:27.439
five or six of fuck this game? Uninstall it? Or you know,

1855
02:01:27.680 --> 02:01:32.560
new PC not counting the Xbox three
sixty. I just know that there are

1856
02:01:32.640 --> 02:01:39.079
like six people somewhere on a server
like shooting sniper rifles that make dudes explode

1857
02:01:39.119 --> 02:01:42.680
in one shot, and it looks
like it's a gigantic bathroom, but you're

1858
02:01:42.800 --> 02:01:49.840
really small in it. Well,
someone, someone somewhere is continuing level Lord's

1859
02:01:49.880 --> 02:01:54.760
great work in in the Unreal engine, and I want to I need to

1860
02:01:54.840 --> 02:01:58.920
be there. I need to be
there. Moon Diver is supposed to be

1861
02:01:58.960 --> 02:02:02.439
out on Xbox Slabber this week.
Okay remember that from PSN Yeah a few

1862
02:02:02.479 --> 02:02:06.880
weeks back. Yeah, kind of
like Strider only four player and way crazy.

1863
02:02:08.000 --> 02:02:11.079
Is it any good? It seems
okay? I think the four player

1864
02:02:11.199 --> 02:02:14.079
thing it kind of makes it too
much, makes it a little overwhelming.

1865
02:02:14.439 --> 02:02:16.279
I was having more fun with it
when I was playing by myself. Vinny

1866
02:02:16.359 --> 02:02:19.720
kept hitting the button that was like
basically like the spell cast button that came

1867
02:02:19.800 --> 02:02:23.920
with this ridiculous animation that made everyone
stop what they were doing and watch it.

1868
02:02:24.119 --> 02:02:26.439
Yeah. There's a lot of stuff
that doesn't have to be that way.

1869
02:02:26.600 --> 02:02:28.800
Yeah, but there's some that does
have to be that way. It

1870
02:02:28.920 --> 02:02:33.600
is because it's it's you know,
yeah, it's the unskippable cut scene in

1871
02:02:33.600 --> 02:02:36.960
the middle of combat. So let
me do this crazy flourish to show everyone

1872
02:02:38.000 --> 02:02:41.319
that I'm making you all invincible for
five seconds. It's like just fucking making

1873
02:02:41.399 --> 02:02:44.199
invisible for five seconds. Let's move
on with our lives. That Call of

1874
02:02:44.279 --> 02:02:48.199
Duty map pack is out Escalation Escalation, that's right. So it's another new

1875
02:02:48.279 --> 02:02:55.960
release sure that has a new zombie
scenario in it. YEP play as Sarah

1876
02:02:55.960 --> 02:02:59.920
Michelle Geller, Stars of Stage and
Screen. George, I love the idea.

1877
02:03:00.000 --> 02:03:01.279
I just wish it was not applied
to zombies. I want you want

1878
02:03:01.319 --> 02:03:03.880
them to go whole hog and just
apply it to team death match. Michael

1879
02:03:03.960 --> 02:03:08.399
Rooker. Yeah, I want to
basically unlock Michael Rooker for death Match.

1880
02:03:08.640 --> 02:03:12.479
You just want to be able to
get the ice Cube voice pack stuff for

1881
02:03:12.640 --> 02:03:15.119
non ice Cube levels. Yeah,
if I can just turn that on for

1882
02:03:15.199 --> 02:03:18.960
all maps, I want to have
at all times spot planes in there.

1883
02:03:20.520 --> 02:03:24.000
That's what I wanted to say.
All right, I need to grab power

1884
02:03:24.039 --> 02:03:27.119
stuff. We're gonna take a break
and we'll come back for more podcast recording

1885
02:03:27.479 --> 02:04:00.399
here on the Diet Podcast. All
right, we're back. Everyone, pick

1886
02:04:00.399 --> 02:04:03.800
your cell phones away. No,
it's time to talk about some emails.

1887
02:04:04.039 --> 02:04:08.399
Emails, emails people would send us
emails, Brad Lean, I don't know

1888
02:04:08.399 --> 02:04:12.239
if you news already. I've heard
rumors to that side BombCast Ajohnbob dot com.

1889
02:04:12.760 --> 02:04:15.279
If you want them read on this
podcast, this email address that you

1890
02:04:15.279 --> 02:04:16.439
send them to. If you send
them anywhere else, they're not gonna get

1891
02:04:16.439 --> 02:04:18.359
red. I'm gonna get them here, even if you won't even get a

1892
02:04:18.399 --> 02:04:21.439
response. No, and you probably
won't get a response even if you send

1893
02:04:21.479 --> 02:04:26.840
them here, fair enough, because
you get just a just a gross amount

1894
02:04:26.840 --> 02:04:29.159
of email. You don't even know
how much email comes into this email,

1895
02:04:29.239 --> 02:04:34.199
gross of emails at no, at
least if you discussions one hurls daily like

1896
02:04:34.479 --> 02:04:38.279
a lot of email comes into this
email address, and a lot of it's

1897
02:04:38.319 --> 02:04:41.239
really not good. Some of it's
spam, but even stuff, some of

1898
02:04:41.319 --> 02:04:44.920
the stuff that's intended to come here. So no, that know that,

1899
02:04:45.039 --> 02:04:47.479
like the level of quality is not
super high. So you spend a little

1900
02:04:47.560 --> 02:04:50.119
bit of time, if you actually
think about it a little bit, you

1901
02:04:50.239 --> 02:04:54.720
might actually stand a chance of getting
read on the air here, unless it's

1902
02:04:54.720 --> 02:04:57.880
sandwiched between like five spam messages,
in which case I'll just gets deleted and

1903
02:04:58.000 --> 02:05:00.199
no one ever sees it. Probably
no, because I look at the one

1904
02:05:00.319 --> 02:05:03.640
one at a time, okay,
heavy, Yeah, No, I delete

1905
02:05:03.640 --> 02:05:10.000
all of the Walgreens spam emails.
Ah fucking Walgreens, dude. I have

1906
02:05:10.199 --> 02:05:15.239
unsubscribed to their newsletter, Like can't
you can't? You can't subscribe? Maybe

1907
02:05:15.279 --> 02:05:17.199
if we just started reading their deals
every week on the podcast, they would,

1908
02:05:17.479 --> 02:05:19.039
you know. I'm just glad to
know I'm not the only one.

1909
02:05:19.279 --> 02:05:21.560
I guess. No, I think
it's because it's to all of us.

1910
02:05:23.199 --> 02:05:27.439
It's too one of the alias.
One of the alias is that I won't

1911
02:05:27.479 --> 02:05:30.439
read on the air. Who did
that that? I almost did? I

1912
02:05:30.640 --> 02:05:32.960
know, but Dix? Who would
Who wouldn't sign that email address up?

1913
02:05:33.079 --> 02:05:35.359
For what I did. I wanted
to know what was like for sale,

1914
02:05:35.479 --> 02:05:41.800
like looking for discount ibuprofen and photo
development ship. First email comes in from

1915
02:05:41.960 --> 02:05:47.319
stet and Cyprus. All right,
I gotta look at for them Cyprusians,

1916
02:05:48.640 --> 02:05:51.880
Cypriots, Cypriots. That's what it
is. Thank you, Jeff hi bomb

1917
02:05:51.960 --> 02:05:57.319
cast. Seeing all of the supposed
Project Cafe screenshots mock ups, that's the

1918
02:05:58.119 --> 02:06:04.319
Nintendo Nintendo thing name for that supposedly. Seeing all of the supposed Project Cafe

1919
02:06:04.840 --> 02:06:10.239
screenshots mock ups made me think that
wouldn't that controller cost a ridiculous amount of

1920
02:06:10.279 --> 02:06:12.880
money? How much do you think
that would cost? More importantly, how

1921
02:06:13.000 --> 02:06:15.720
much would you be willing to pay
for it? I guess this requires a

1922
02:06:15.800 --> 02:06:18.000
certain amount of pre knowledge of that
stuff, but it kind of comes down

1923
02:06:18.079 --> 02:06:21.600
to, Yo, we're going to
put a touch screen interface. What if

1924
02:06:21.640 --> 02:06:25.760
they took a GameCube controller and stretched
out and put a touch screen in the

1925
02:06:25.800 --> 02:06:29.319
middle of it. What if we
put a GBA inside or something like that

1926
02:06:29.479 --> 02:06:31.319
on a wave bird? What's what's
the question? How much would that controller

1927
02:06:31.399 --> 02:06:38.039
cost standalone? Or is he asking
how much? Where? If you were

1928
02:06:38.119 --> 02:06:42.720
talking about, you know, the
money that Nintendo put into the last one

1929
02:06:43.159 --> 02:06:46.079
was not on rees, was not
on parts. It was on it was

1930
02:06:46.279 --> 02:06:51.239
it was on R and D it
was, but but not on like high

1931
02:06:51.279 --> 02:06:56.239
end technology. They weren't spending their
money on really rare parts or things that

1932
02:06:56.359 --> 02:07:00.319
required hard to get parts. It
was you know, gyros. And it

1933
02:07:00.800 --> 02:07:04.600
was fairly cheap stuff specific hardware,
right, but it was fairly cheap stuff

1934
02:07:04.680 --> 02:07:09.399
put together in a clever way to
make for something different. I mean,

1935
02:07:09.439 --> 02:07:12.439
who's to say a really basic touch
screen does not also fall into that category

1936
02:07:12.479 --> 02:07:15.319
at this point. Yeah, touch
mes's been around for so long, mag

1937
02:07:15.880 --> 02:07:17.359
My guess is, especially if it's
like not multi touch, if it's like

1938
02:07:17.439 --> 02:07:20.720
they're if it's just a single touch
like the DS screen, but like,

1939
02:07:20.800 --> 02:07:27.680
what's the resolution of the display.
Let's be really secured into has some history

1940
02:07:27.760 --> 02:07:31.760
buying touch screens in volume, so
and and they're the most economically viable company

1941
02:07:32.119 --> 02:07:34.600
making hardware these days. We probably
know what they're doing. It will be

1942
02:07:35.479 --> 02:07:40.680
reasonable. I think that charging any
more than fifty dollars for a controller is

1943
02:07:40.720 --> 02:07:45.159
completely insane, and fifty dollars is
also kind of ridiculous. Thirty bucks should

1944
02:07:45.159 --> 02:07:47.239
be But if you told me,
like, hey, it's got a screen

1945
02:07:47.279 --> 02:07:49.479
in the middle of it and all
this stuff, And I wonder if there's

1946
02:07:49.479 --> 02:07:54.359
any possibility that they will sell screenless
controllers, but they'll just be like,

1947
02:07:54.520 --> 02:07:57.359
you know, it'll come with one
that's got a screen in it, and

1948
02:07:57.439 --> 02:08:01.760
then it'll be like that, Yeah, like that's a master controller. Theoretically

1949
02:08:01.880 --> 02:08:05.479
you could get three that don't have
the screen, or you could go whole

1950
02:08:05.520 --> 02:08:09.560
hog and buy three more premium controllers
or something. It'll be like the classic

1951
02:08:09.600 --> 02:08:15.279
controller where you'll have to plug your
screenless controller into your screened controller and you

1952
02:08:15.319 --> 02:08:16.159
can only do one, right,
you only do one to one. You

1953
02:08:16.279 --> 02:08:20.279
always have to have all be wired
and plug the vitality sensor into that still

1954
02:08:22.439 --> 02:08:26.319
headline. Yeah, yeah, they
yeah, they said that they can only

1955
02:08:26.399 --> 02:08:28.079
get it to work on eighty percent
of people. They're not going to release

1956
02:08:28.119 --> 02:08:33.039
it until the tech works on more
pulls. Ye, they're trying to get

1957
02:08:33.039 --> 02:08:35.079
it to work on the undead,
trying to get to work on people who

1958
02:08:35.079 --> 02:08:39.079
don't love Nintendo games, trying to
convert them. I mean, wouldn't wouldn't

1959
02:08:39.079 --> 02:08:46.239
selling screenless controllers to split split the
it would you know, cause developers to

1960
02:08:46.319 --> 02:08:48.840
not use the screens and all kinds
of horrible stuff. But I just wonder

1961
02:08:48.880 --> 02:08:52.479
if that's an option that they're considering
or whatever. I'm not saying it's I'm

1962
02:08:52.479 --> 02:08:54.159
not saying it's the way to go. I mean we're going down a weird

1963
02:08:54.199 --> 02:09:00.279
speculative path of like how central to
the game design process will this new element

1964
02:09:00.359 --> 02:09:03.119
be? Like how much will Mantendo
force it? That's assuming the screen is

1965
02:09:03.159 --> 02:09:07.199
even on the controller? Right again, assuming it'll have a controller at all.

1966
02:09:09.000 --> 02:09:13.039
Yeah, assuming a whole lot of
things, about a whole lot of

1967
02:09:13.079 --> 02:09:16.119
hear saying, I guess what four
weeks from now, we're gonna have the

1968
02:09:16.159 --> 02:09:20.439
answers because we'll be in LA at
three. Next comes in from Jake in

1969
02:09:20.520 --> 02:09:26.760
Pennsylvania is about HDMI connectors. We're
talking about these some last week. The

1970
02:09:26.840 --> 02:09:33.039
licensing requirements for HDMI stipulate that the
physical connector types be on either end of

1971
02:09:33.159 --> 02:09:39.479
the cable can be for oh man, The licensing requirements for each tom I

1972
02:09:39.520 --> 02:09:43.039
stipulate what the physical connector types on
either end of the cable can be for

1973
02:09:43.119 --> 02:09:48.720
purposes of interoperability. Uh. This
is in regards to to Vinny muttering about

1974
02:09:48.800 --> 02:09:54.159
Nintendo putting a proprietary connector on the
can on the system end of their new

1975
02:09:54.239 --> 02:09:58.920
system. There's some governing bodies somewhere
telling people that it has to be m

1976
02:10:00.880 --> 02:10:03.560
on your machine. If you're going
to use HDMI as a standard for conveying

1977
02:10:03.640 --> 02:10:09.479
information, you have to use interoperable. That's great, connectors on either ends.

1978
02:10:09.359 --> 02:10:16.000
So component for a Nintendo. Well
that explains why the adapt the Xbox

1979
02:10:16.079 --> 02:10:20.079
has always had a raw yes,
my port because Microsoft will love to sell

1980
02:10:20.119 --> 02:10:24.760
your cable. Anyone would. Anyone
would. I would love to sell you

1981
02:10:24.840 --> 02:10:28.119
some cables. Sony has always been
pretty kind of lazy fair about that stuff,

1982
02:10:28.199 --> 02:10:31.520
like they've they've just allowed it to
sticks. Yeah, they're just allowed

1983
02:10:31.760 --> 02:10:35.279
to use the same connector. You
could say the same thing about Nintendo.

1984
02:10:35.479 --> 02:10:41.159
I mean, I bought my hill, I bought my old PlayStations had composite

1985
02:10:41.199 --> 02:10:46.319
video out straight up, that's true, but only like the launch models early

1986
02:10:46.800 --> 02:10:50.640
they had those. But even but
after that, like there was the standard

1987
02:10:50.680 --> 02:10:52.560
PlayStations, like you could use the
same if you had a you know,

1988
02:10:52.680 --> 02:10:56.000
component cable, you could use that
from PlayStation to PlayStation three. Yeah,

1989
02:10:56.359 --> 02:10:58.920
and it would do the same thing. I guess they I guess Nintendo lost

1990
02:11:00.079 --> 02:11:03.600
it with the weed. But but
up to the GameCube you could use the

1991
02:11:03.680 --> 02:11:09.079
same you could use that same stuff
this nest connector. So you know that

1992
02:11:09.239 --> 02:11:13.079
that goes back pretty far. Anyway, A good little piece of clarification about

1993
02:11:13.600 --> 02:11:18.720
HTMI things that you learn. Ryan
Lonsky writes in Hell of Bomb Cast to

1994
02:11:18.800 --> 02:11:22.039
make a bit of a long story
short, I bit a friend twenty bucks

1995
02:11:22.079 --> 02:11:26.560
that Mortal Kombat would outsell Portal two
on consoles according to MPD. What do

1996
02:11:26.600 --> 02:11:31.920
you think my chances are of winning
this? What do you think my chances

1997
02:11:31.960 --> 02:11:35.119
are of getting the MPD numbers?
Yeah? Just on console? Yeah,

1998
02:11:35.319 --> 02:11:39.880
extremely yeah, yeah, I think
that you know, the bulk of the

1999
02:11:39.960 --> 02:11:43.079
portal players will get it on the
PC, whereas MK is not available for

2000
02:11:43.119 --> 02:11:46.880
the PC. So you know,
it kind of has that factor that limits

2001
02:11:46.920 --> 02:11:50.800
the console sales. A little bit. That said, our numbers on achievements.

2002
02:11:50.880 --> 02:11:54.680
Right now, Mortal Kombat is ahead
of Portal two on Xbox three sixty,

2003
02:11:54.800 --> 02:11:56.479
but it's by like six hundred people
or something. That's not and that's

2004
02:11:56.479 --> 02:12:01.520
based on the Giant Bomb user base, not total sales, not a scientific

2005
02:12:01.600 --> 02:12:03.920
sample. Yes, well it's I
think it's a big enough Maybe it's a

2006
02:12:03.920 --> 02:12:09.000
big enough sample. Maybe it's probably
scientific. I think both of games are

2007
02:12:09.039 --> 02:12:13.680
just gonna sell really well. Yep, Like I don't think it's gonna be

2008
02:12:13.800 --> 02:12:16.079
a huge like. I think they're
just both gonna do And I don't think

2009
02:12:16.079 --> 02:12:20.479
it's it's an either or. I
think they're like kind of smart frankly for

2010
02:12:20.520 --> 02:12:22.520
those two to throw down against each
other, because He's complemented very well,

2011
02:12:22.600 --> 02:12:26.800
made for a big week. You
couldn't think of two more different games as

2012
02:12:26.880 --> 02:12:28.880
far as and it was great to
go from one to the other like it

2013
02:12:30.000 --> 02:12:31.960
was. You know, you could
get tired of one the other one.

2014
02:12:31.479 --> 02:12:39.159
Palette cleansing like a motherfuck absolutely uh
Luke as from Saskatoon. Yeah, Saskatchewan,

2015
02:12:39.319 --> 02:12:43.880
Canada, dear bomb cast. I
have enough money stamped up to make

2016
02:12:43.960 --> 02:12:48.319
one trip stateside this summer m and
am trying to decide between Packs in August

2017
02:12:48.439 --> 02:12:52.399
or California Extreme in July. I'm
a huge arcade history buff, which I

2018
02:12:52.600 --> 02:12:58.640
gather isn't really represented at packs,
which is I'm sorry, I didn't want

2019
02:12:58.640 --> 02:13:00.600
to interrupt, but go ahead.
That seemed like the place for it,

2020
02:13:00.680 --> 02:13:03.720
because it's sure as hell was represented
at Packs East. Yeah, the guys

2021
02:13:03.760 --> 02:13:07.279
from fun Spot lugged a bunch of
their machines. I don't know if pack's

2022
02:13:07.319 --> 02:13:13.319
regular will have that or not,
but aingase that was that was because of

2023
02:13:13.359 --> 02:13:18.840
their proximity to Fun Spot in New
Hampshire. That was great, That was

2024
02:13:18.880 --> 02:13:22.439
true. That was honestly. That
was like a tiny slice of California Extreme

2025
02:13:22.880 --> 02:13:28.239
of just the dark, sweaty ass
room, a bunch of really nice arcade

2026
02:13:28.279 --> 02:13:31.239
you know, old school arcade machines
set up for free play and then you

2027
02:13:31.279 --> 02:13:35.279
just go very dark room. That
room was was extremely That room was darker

2028
02:13:35.319 --> 02:13:41.039
than California Extreme. Yeah. I
love California Extream. Ye, I'll be

2029
02:13:41.079 --> 02:13:46.840
awesome. Uh that said, I
would think he should go to packs.

2030
02:13:46.279 --> 02:13:50.960
California Extream will have a six player
linked up grid, cabinets. Is that

2031
02:13:52.039 --> 02:13:54.359
confirmed? It's there? Every year? Was there? I didn't remember being

2032
02:13:54.399 --> 02:14:00.319
there totally. Was there last year? I had really prominent placement the year

2033
02:14:00.359 --> 02:14:07.359
before. You know, such completely
different events. They're both excellent feel good

2034
02:14:07.399 --> 02:14:11.439
events if you are like super into
seeing arcade machines. There is nothing like

2035
02:14:11.560 --> 02:14:18.279
California Extreme that we've seen. That
we've seen. I've been a fair amount

2036
02:14:18.319 --> 02:14:24.000
of like famous or once famous arcades. Nothing about about Mike Michael's house that

2037
02:14:24.119 --> 02:14:28.880
might that might be something similar,
But that's just like source code for arcades

2038
02:14:28.119 --> 02:14:31.239
and all kinds of weird stuff,
and no one gets to go to Mike

2039
02:14:31.319 --> 02:14:35.880
Mike's house. We've only heard tales
tales of Mike Mikea's house. Someday,

2040
02:14:37.880 --> 02:14:41.600
I just I don't think so Someday
I keep the dream alive. Jeff,

2041
02:14:43.199 --> 02:14:45.880
all right, you don't want to
confront that Hito. No, no,

2042
02:14:46.039 --> 02:14:46.960
no, I'm not saying I would
love to see it. Also, I

2043
02:14:48.039 --> 02:14:50.840
just I just don't know. I
s don't know. Mike Micah reach out

2044
02:14:50.840 --> 02:14:58.720
to us. Let's come to your
basement sometime Forgot's sake. Yeah, you

2045
02:14:58.800 --> 02:15:01.000
know, yeah, if you if
you have you know, if if the

2046
02:15:01.079 --> 02:15:05.079
community end of it is more interesting
to you, there's there's nothing like packs.

2047
02:15:05.720 --> 02:15:09.000
Uh, but if you want to
see an incredible room full of old

2048
02:15:09.079 --> 02:15:11.319
arcading machines, there's nothing like games. California Extreme makes more sense. But

2049
02:15:11.359 --> 02:15:15.640
if you're yeah, the community,
the sort of getting together with a bunch

2050
02:15:15.680 --> 02:15:20.239
of people, hearing upcoming developers talk, yeah and stuff. It's machines versus

2051
02:15:20.279 --> 02:15:24.760
people, there's California Extremes for the
machines. A lot of lines that packs

2052
02:15:24.840 --> 02:15:30.199
too, especially at this point if
you want to play games older crowd at

2053
02:15:30.199 --> 02:15:33.640
California extreme too. A lot of
guys that might wear keys on a belt

2054
02:15:33.680 --> 02:15:35.359
loop, a lot of ball dudes
with pony tails. Well, it's like

2055
02:15:35.479 --> 02:15:41.000
some coin op operating motherfuckers. It's
some like driving trucks around to movie theaters

2056
02:15:41.079 --> 02:15:46.119
and bowling alleys and yeah, and
you know pizza parlor mats, Yeah,

2057
02:15:46.159 --> 02:15:50.239
and laundromats. They've These are guys
that know how to operate a hand truck.

2058
02:15:50.359 --> 02:15:54.880
They they not to run a location, that's right, some machines out

2059
02:15:54.880 --> 02:16:00.880
on the location, remember like nine
locations. These these are these are like

2060
02:16:01.039 --> 02:16:09.039
the low rung of the commercial side
of of video games, especially now as

2061
02:16:09.199 --> 02:16:11.359
as things get worse and worse,
and these guys still just a lot of

2062
02:16:11.359 --> 02:16:15.560
them are collectors at this point.
These guys are not on MOA members.

2063
02:16:16.520 --> 02:16:22.560
I don't even know if that even
exist anymore. Uh, But it's it's

2064
02:16:22.600 --> 02:16:26.600
exciting to go and and hang out
with these dudes who still have that passion

2065
02:16:26.680 --> 02:16:30.079
for the old stuff and I know
that stuff. The sort of guys that

2066
02:16:30.119 --> 02:16:33.440
would jump a guy who picked a
mame cabinet as a as a prize over

2067
02:16:33.600 --> 02:16:37.719
a was it like a Star Wars. I don't blame there was. Yeah,

2068
02:16:37.719 --> 02:16:41.360
there was a Star Wars vector graphics. I think it even had the

2069
02:16:41.440 --> 02:16:48.680
Empire upgrade on it some and you
picked the Mame caps some crazy I can't

2070
02:16:48.719 --> 02:16:52.079
remember what it was, but some
crazy pinball machines, roller coaster Tycoon.

2071
02:16:52.120 --> 02:16:54.079
It was a roller coaster Tycoon machine, which is like a relatively recent machine.

2072
02:16:54.440 --> 02:16:58.280
Looked pretty sharp, good condition.
They're doing a tront legacy machine.

2073
02:16:58.760 --> 02:17:01.440
Do you think that'll be there?
Oh? Maybe, Yeah, probably that'll

2074
02:17:01.440 --> 02:17:03.719
be out. That'll be out in
that'll be out this month, and then

2075
02:17:03.719 --> 02:17:09.200
there's a limited edition like upgraded version
of it coming out in June. But

2076
02:17:09.239 --> 02:17:11.479
I don't want to I don't want
to spend five thousand dollars on a pinball

2077
02:17:11.479 --> 02:17:13.479
machine. But someone will drag that
out. Yeah. Pinball machines are you

2078
02:17:13.520 --> 02:17:18.239
want to get into the sick habit
like we we We got the glimpse of

2079
02:17:18.319 --> 02:17:22.520
that going to California Extreme last year
of seeing Like you think it's bad,

2080
02:17:22.680 --> 02:17:28.200
arcade machine collectors, pinball collectors are
a whole other kind of sick fucking junkie.

2081
02:17:28.719 --> 02:17:33.000
It's scary. Yeah, it's truly
truly scary. The upkeep on yep,

2082
02:17:35.319 --> 02:17:37.799
guys, got to open up a
vein and shove pinballs right in there.

2083
02:17:39.280 --> 02:17:41.280
Yeah. Like I have a pinball
machine that has just has like a

2084
02:17:41.360 --> 02:17:43.760
warped ramp on it that I don't
know that I'll ever be able to replace

2085
02:17:43.879 --> 02:17:46.719
unless someone decides to make more of
them, because it's customed to that one

2086
02:17:46.840 --> 02:17:50.159
machine. And it's like you need
to get every single person that I've ever

2087
02:17:50.280 --> 02:17:54.319
talked to that has any knowledge about
pinball machines. Basically, as you're gonna

2088
02:17:54.319 --> 02:17:56.760
have to have that custom machine,
you're gonna have to commission a machine shop

2089
02:17:56.840 --> 02:17:58.200
to like custom make you. These
people have been doing that. Like if

2090
02:17:58.200 --> 02:18:01.920
there's enough demand for people have been
going out and making new ramps and new

2091
02:18:03.319 --> 02:18:07.079
you know, decals and stuff.
If there's enough demand from like the pinball

2092
02:18:07.120 --> 02:18:11.200
collecting community as well. Yeah yeah, yeah, like you can you can

2093
02:18:11.239 --> 02:18:16.399
go out and buy please prove repro
Tron joysticks. Uh do you want that

2094
02:18:16.559 --> 02:18:22.719
glowy blue plastic. You can get
them insane. So you guys can say

2095
02:18:22.719 --> 02:18:26.120
California Extreme. If this guy really
likes that old stuff, I would say

2096
02:18:26.200 --> 02:18:31.079
California Extreme. But like it does
it really warrants Maybe it's just because I've

2097
02:18:31.079 --> 02:18:35.319
gone to more of them with the
paxes because they're now that there's two a

2098
02:18:35.440 --> 02:18:39.760
year, I've had more packs exposure. I am way more fucking excited about

2099
02:18:39.840 --> 02:18:43.079
California Extreme. Yeah, I'm excited
about California Extream because it's coming soon,

2100
02:18:43.520 --> 02:18:46.920
like relatively soon. If you're if
you're flying over an ocean. No this

2101
02:18:48.760 --> 02:18:50.799
I thought you said for some reason. Oh right, right, right right,

2102
02:18:50.879 --> 02:18:54.520
sorry, Okay, in that case, like Packs is more of a

2103
02:18:54.600 --> 02:19:00.719
party, California Extreme is like a
room full of arcade machines at like kind

2104
02:19:00.760 --> 02:19:03.879
of a crappy hotel convention center.
You go to go to the Great America

2105
02:19:05.040 --> 02:19:07.079
right across the way. Yeah,
all right, yeah, that's like what

2106
02:19:07.159 --> 02:19:11.959
happens after hours of California extre There
is no after hours of California goes until

2107
02:19:11.959 --> 02:19:15.280
two am. Yeah, but I
mean you're not there. You're at the

2108
02:19:15.319 --> 02:19:18.520
hotel bar, paying way too much
for drinks, yeah, or which is

2109
02:19:18.559 --> 02:19:20.319
what we did last year, or
sitting in a hotel No, because I

2110
02:19:20.360 --> 02:19:22.799
had to I had that cooler.
I didn't, you're the cooler. Okay.

2111
02:19:22.799 --> 02:19:26.000
It was me and Dave. Me
and Dave were definitely at the hotel

2112
02:19:26.040 --> 02:19:30.760
bar a lot a lot yeah,
people watching, Yeah, No, just

2113
02:19:30.920 --> 02:19:37.040
people drinking but observing the observe.
Yeah, observing the arcade, collecting ecosystem.

2114
02:19:37.200 --> 02:19:39.239
Yes, definitely it's weird. Yeah, sure you should go this year.

2115
02:19:39.399 --> 02:19:43.000
Don't Oh dude, how far it's
San Jose. It's not that far.

2116
02:19:43.520 --> 02:19:48.600
You would love to go. You
guys should get times to start in

2117
02:19:48.680 --> 02:19:54.399
the day two. Yeah, it's
like Saturday Friday. You can even you

2118
02:19:54.479 --> 02:19:56.920
can get in. I think I
think this year I might. I might

2119
02:19:56.000 --> 02:19:58.920
want to just get a room for
the whole time. I was just did

2120
02:19:58.920 --> 02:20:03.040
that last year for the Yeah you're
there, we were there fucking the entire

2121
02:20:03.079 --> 02:20:05.719
show. Was it three days?
We left Sunday? Did we stay the

2122
02:20:05.840 --> 02:20:13.239
night there? Yeah? We had
rooms. We had multiple rooms. Miss

2123
02:20:13.319 --> 02:20:16.879
being at that hotel bar a long
time. Had that room, they had

2124
02:20:16.920 --> 02:20:18.600
that floor. They just smelt like
cleaning supplies and weed the entire time,

2125
02:20:18.799 --> 02:20:26.600
right, Yeah, guys smelling like
whiskey and weed rolling around the floor the

2126
02:20:26.799 --> 02:20:30.479
entire time. Guys, I smoke
if you got him in the elevator,

2127
02:20:31.079 --> 02:20:33.879
Oh, I forgot about first,
dude. I was like when we first

2128
02:20:33.920 --> 02:20:39.760
got there, he was wearing some
amazing shirt. Anyway, Fuck Californy Streams.

2129
02:20:41.000 --> 02:20:43.239
You guys should go and go to
Californy streams. I'm changing my vote.

2130
02:20:43.319 --> 02:20:48.399
I guess go to California. Thanks. Demoil comes from Ben's c I've

2131
02:20:48.399 --> 02:20:52.319
been thinking about how much third party
games this last gen has been made,

2132
02:20:52.120 --> 02:20:56.040
how many third party games this last
dan have been made on the unreal engine,

2133
02:20:56.200 --> 02:21:01.360
and what advantage that's been to the
xboxes live Rari since for a long

2134
02:21:01.440 --> 02:21:03.399
time debs seemed to have trouble porting
on real games to the p S three

2135
02:21:03.479 --> 02:21:07.120
and the we can't run it at
all. Given this, how much pull

2136
02:21:07.159 --> 02:21:09.079
do you think middlewear makers like Epic
we'll have when it comes to next generation

2137
02:21:09.079 --> 02:21:13.879
console spects and architecture. For example, the successor will supposedly have a paltry

2138
02:21:13.959 --> 02:21:16.760
five hundred and twelve megs of RAM
and, which was already a pretty skimpy

2139
02:21:16.760 --> 02:21:20.319
amount when the three sixty launched five
years ago. If Epic were to go

2140
02:21:20.520 --> 02:21:22.920
around the big three console developers and
tell them, you know, if you

2141
02:21:22.920 --> 02:21:26.399
want your hardware to be able to
run the latest version and real engine,

2142
02:21:26.559 --> 02:21:28.079
sack up and throw at these two
gigs of RAM in there, would they

2143
02:21:28.200 --> 02:21:33.079
have to fall in line. I
don't know if this is considered apocrypha or

2144
02:21:33.120 --> 02:21:35.440
not, but that's exactly what happened
with a three sixty. Yeah, if

2145
02:21:35.479 --> 02:21:37.479
they got Microsoft to double the amount
of RAM in that thing. Interesting,

2146
02:21:39.879 --> 02:21:43.280
show them two versions of Gears of
War. I don't know if it was

2147
02:21:43.360 --> 02:21:46.840
that specific, I'm sure that would
make a pretty coup. I want to

2148
02:21:46.840 --> 02:21:48.520
say they showed two versions of the
games, which is what you do if

2149
02:21:48.559 --> 02:21:50.559
you give us this RAM. This
is what you do if you don't,

2150
02:21:50.799 --> 02:21:54.799
and the game looked, you know, or whatever tech demo looks incredibly better

2151
02:21:54.879 --> 02:21:58.440
with with the RAM. So a
lot of pull, Yeah, especially Epic.

2152
02:21:58.680 --> 02:22:03.000
Yeah, yeah, but I wonder
if if you know, this new

2153
02:22:03.319 --> 02:22:09.079
console that intends putting out will be
able to run even the current version of

2154
02:22:09.719 --> 02:22:16.040
Unreal Engine. I would imagine patently
ludicrous for them, the ship system that

2155
02:22:16.079 --> 02:22:18.879
can't run every game that's out on
a console right now, that seems fair,

2156
02:22:20.520 --> 02:22:22.719
But yeah, if they're if they're
not advancing past what's currently out there,

2157
02:22:22.799 --> 02:22:31.319
then at some point it's like screens
and the controller, Man, it'll

2158
02:22:31.319 --> 02:22:33.479
be a Kurby game that makes that
makes sense, I'll call that right now.

2159
02:22:33.559 --> 02:22:37.920
It always is. I'm back in. That can be some awesome Kurby

2160
02:22:37.959 --> 02:22:41.879
game, but it's like, no, that's the game that makes all this

2161
02:22:41.920 --> 02:22:48.600
it are gonna be like, oh
okay, that's what justified everything for me.

2162
02:22:48.079 --> 02:22:52.399
I get it now next eavelecause it's
from Duncan and Brantford, Ontario and

2163
02:22:52.399 --> 02:22:56.440
a lot of recent events with PSN
and the massive personal information leaked of its

2164
02:22:56.479 --> 02:23:01.399
customers. Do you think that this
will accelerate Sony's timetable for the PlayStation four?

2165
02:23:03.319 --> 02:23:07.040
No? Yeah, oh that was
what was one of the things I

2166
02:23:07.120 --> 02:23:11.840
was going to mention was the Sony
has said in addition to vague time tables

2167
02:23:11.920 --> 02:23:16.520
for stuff coming back up, uh, free stuff, some free stuff specific

2168
02:23:18.040 --> 02:23:22.120
welcome, welcome home, welcome,
We're welcome back, there was at least

2169
02:23:22.159 --> 02:23:28.639
the thirty days of PlayStation Plus for
PlayStation Plus subscribers as well as a think

2170
02:23:28.719 --> 02:23:30.840
I thought it was thirty days for
everybody, and if you were already a

2171
02:23:30.840 --> 02:23:37.760
subscriber's the things you get like a
a try out, three days download everything,

2172
02:23:37.840 --> 02:23:43.600
and I guess you lose the rights
to it if you don't continue to

2173
02:23:43.680 --> 02:23:46.239
just what's the point of getting the
free thirty Yeah, they should just be

2174
02:23:46.319 --> 02:23:48.639
giving everybody for free thirty days anyway, as like good business to get people

2175
02:23:48.639 --> 02:23:52.799
to sign up for PlayStation Plus totally
well they were doing. That's just the

2176
02:23:52.840 --> 02:23:56.159
way that PlayStation Plus is designed.
You have to keep up with places.

2177
02:23:56.040 --> 02:23:58.879
That just seems sort of that's not
really a gift. I believe there was.

2178
02:24:00.399 --> 02:24:03.000
If you're already a PlayStation Plus subscriber, like I am, I find

2179
02:24:03.120 --> 02:24:07.399
the thirty days like added to my
subscription length. That's great, I'm already

2180
02:24:07.399 --> 02:24:11.399
paying for the stupid thing. Make
it go a little bit longer. I've

2181
02:24:11.399 --> 02:24:13.520
already made that investment. Yeah,
but it's like it was already the case

2182
02:24:13.559 --> 02:24:16.920
where when I signed up for the
year, it was already like it's really

2183
02:24:16.000 --> 02:24:20.520
fifteen months, not twelve or you
like they're already like throwing three months at

2184
02:24:20.559 --> 02:24:24.719
you when you sign up for like, we're not gonna start charging you till

2185
02:24:24.719 --> 02:24:26.879
three months after you first sign up. So so just the whole thing just

2186
02:24:26.959 --> 02:24:31.479
seems like it has no value at
all and they're just desperate to get people

2187
02:24:31.559 --> 02:24:35.719
in. I don't know, but
actually the few days that I had my

2188
02:24:35.799 --> 02:24:41.079
PlayStation Plus there, it seemed the
cloud man seemed cool. The cloud like,

2189
02:24:41.319 --> 02:24:43.760
the free stuff was was nice.
It was like, hey, you

2190
02:24:43.799 --> 02:24:46.799
want to pay for free, Yeah, you want to play Sonic that jog

2191
02:24:46.959 --> 02:24:50.159
like, not really, but that's
cool, is there? Cloud saves seemed

2192
02:24:50.159 --> 02:24:54.639
like the big thing for me,
And yeah, granted we are all a

2193
02:24:54.680 --> 02:24:56.959
bunch of walking edge cases around here. Yep, the play games on multiple

2194
02:24:58.000 --> 02:25:01.200
PS three's. Most people don't do
that, But that's like the reason totally

2195
02:25:01.840 --> 02:25:07.879
although with you know, current dependability
of cloud based stuff question, Yeah,

2196
02:25:07.239 --> 02:25:11.040
what kind of makes you think is
that? Is that such a thing.

2197
02:25:13.079 --> 02:25:15.760
I'll be cerious to see the state
of my cloud saves when all this ship

2198
02:25:15.840 --> 02:25:18.159
comes back up. Yeah, they
said that everything is in tact, but

2199
02:25:18.799 --> 02:25:22.319
there's no it's hard to believe that
though, is actually all. It's not

2200
02:25:22.399 --> 02:25:26.280
like I had anything that was completely
critical in there, but I'm curious to

2201
02:25:26.360 --> 02:25:31.440
see what happens. Well, you're
never You're never going to have stuff in

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02:25:31.440 --> 02:25:33.520
the cloud that you also don't have
at least one local copy of. That's

2203
02:25:33.600 --> 02:25:37.319
right. As long as you have
access to every past three that you play

2204
02:25:37.399 --> 02:25:41.920
games on, like, you'll always
have the most third, the newest version

2205
02:25:41.079 --> 02:25:46.239
you could you could delete it off
of you yeah, but so that you

2206
02:25:46.280 --> 02:25:50.959
would only have a cloud version.
Presumably if something like this ever happened again,

2207
02:25:50.000 --> 02:25:54.799
you'd at least yeah, hopefully at
that point it's on you. Yeah.

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02:25:56.000 --> 02:26:01.399
First failure. Yeah, really after
the first failure, yea actually can't

2209
02:26:01.399 --> 02:26:05.159
get fooled again. Him. Gerard
Smith writes in to say this questions for

2210
02:26:07.040 --> 02:26:11.239
blah blah blah blah. Uh,
this is an MK question MK history questions,

2211
02:26:13.319 --> 02:26:18.000
high punch punch answer, thank you. Uh. Back when I was

2212
02:26:18.079 --> 02:26:20.879
in school, there was a rumor
going around that in MK two there were

2213
02:26:20.920 --> 02:26:26.079
moves above the fatalities called total annihilations. One was meant to involve the dog.

2214
02:26:26.159 --> 02:26:30.879
I heard that one was meant to
involve reptile spinning acid at his opponent's

2215
02:26:30.920 --> 02:26:33.360
feet. Was this a myth confined
to the Irish schoolyard or is this something

2216
02:26:33.440 --> 02:26:37.600
you heard yourself? Definitely never heard
that. I haven't ever heard that.

2217
02:26:37.639 --> 02:26:39.440
One. I was here, I
could take get Sonia down off of the

2218
02:26:39.559 --> 02:26:46.959
chains, and the back of that, we're turning into Kano. It was

2219
02:26:48.000 --> 02:26:50.760
a big one. There were some
there were some guys that were trying to

2220
02:26:50.879 --> 02:26:52.760
convince you. They're like, no, there are fucalities that game. They're

2221
02:26:52.799 --> 02:26:58.040
like, no, I'm not.
I think I think animalities started MK two,

2222
02:26:58.079 --> 02:27:01.200
didn't They Like everybody that was that
was a big rumor about MK two.

2223
02:27:01.280 --> 02:27:03.079
So they went and made them.
Yeah, it's the problem with MK

2224
02:27:03.399 --> 02:27:09.799
is that there's no separation of or
there's there's direct connection between rumor mongering and

2225
02:27:11.120 --> 02:27:13.680
what ex chance up in game.
Rumors, rumors became features, like bugs

2226
02:27:13.799 --> 02:27:18.799
became features or characters in some cases
just like totally, it must it must

2227
02:27:18.799 --> 02:27:22.879
be awesome on their part. I
mean, it's like anything crazy that happens

2228
02:27:22.920 --> 02:27:24.239
in those games, they can always
just like play it off. It's like,

2229
02:27:24.440 --> 02:27:28.000
yeah, well maybe if you investigated
that a little further. It's really

2230
02:27:28.079 --> 02:27:31.280
it's it's kind of like a meta
fighting game. Maybe if you cut up

2231
02:27:31.319 --> 02:27:35.879
the baby with Baraka's blades, something
cool might happen. Didn't didn't didn't the

2232
02:27:35.959 --> 02:27:39.239
Kintaro morph start out as a rumor
and then they just went and put it

2233
02:27:39.280 --> 02:27:43.040
in a revision. Was like in
the very last board, right, one

2234
02:27:43.079 --> 02:27:46.000
of the last boards that they put
out. It is where they put that

2235
02:27:46.120 --> 02:27:50.520
in. Yeah, it was like
the last or second to last board out

2236
02:27:50.959 --> 02:27:52.799
that they added that. People have
been saying you could do it, Yeah,

2237
02:27:54.319 --> 02:27:58.000
all right next email. Epic Games
has stated, we actually don't get

2238
02:27:58.079 --> 02:28:05.360
a name for this berry berry rights
in no because there have been other berries

2239
02:28:05.479 --> 02:28:11.959
right against Yes, Hey, guys. Epic Games has stated that the launch

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02:28:11.040 --> 02:28:16.399
of has seated with the launch of
Gears Too, that they had made some

2241
02:28:16.600 --> 02:28:22.280
changes from the first game to discourage
shotgun rushing because they had always intended the

2242
02:28:22.360 --> 02:28:26.440
game to be more of a tactical
cover based game, and the ease of

2243
02:28:26.440 --> 02:28:30.239
which you could rush in and shotgun
everyone threw off the balance. Scott me

2244
02:28:30.360 --> 02:28:33.959
thinking, is it epics place to
change the game in ways that devalue the

2245
02:28:33.000 --> 02:28:37.719
way people prefer playing, or should
they have just accepted the fact that most

2246
02:28:39.639 --> 02:28:43.000
of a lot of players would rather
throw cover by the wayside and run around

2247
02:28:43.040 --> 02:28:46.399
shotguns blazing Epics intentions, but a
lot of players seem to disagree with me.

2248
02:28:46.600 --> 02:28:50.600
What do you guys think about that? Well, I think that they

2249
02:28:50.639 --> 02:28:56.079
have to it's in their best interest
to make a fun game that is kind

2250
02:28:56.120 --> 02:28:58.399
of balanced, and if they create
a situation where everyone is running around with

2251
02:28:58.440 --> 02:29:03.879
the shotgun, they've failed, you
know, like if every other fun doing

2252
02:29:03.920 --> 02:29:07.479
it. It's like if hey,
we design all these weapons that apparently suck,

2253
02:29:07.760 --> 02:29:09.879
yea, Like, that's that's not
a It's not a good if ninety

2254
02:29:09.920 --> 02:29:13.639
percent of the content is going ignored, right, But there is a question

2255
02:29:13.799 --> 02:29:20.159
of like, what's the you know, what's the golden ratio of player feedback

2256
02:29:20.319 --> 02:29:22.239
versus what you were? I think
it's you take the player rumors and turn

2257
02:29:22.280 --> 02:29:28.280
it into new characters for the games. You know, same thing, Cole

2258
02:29:28.520 --> 02:29:33.200
end a slam ball outfit seems to
speak to that. Thrash ball. Slam

2259
02:29:33.239 --> 02:29:37.440
ball is a real thing. Whatever
ball, threshalls just fake thrash balls,

2260
02:29:37.479 --> 02:29:43.600
just football. Slam ball is just
awesome. Uh, Paul W Rights in

2261
02:29:45.399 --> 02:29:46.959
Hey BombCast. So the other day
I was playing through the MK nine story

2262
02:29:48.000 --> 02:29:50.360
mode with the subtitles turned on.
At some point, Shao Kan says aligned,

2263
02:29:50.360 --> 02:29:54.920
declaring he will conquer Earth Realm,
except instead of the subtitle just saying

2264
02:29:54.959 --> 02:29:58.360
conquer, they spelled it ko and
q u e r Okay. Is it

2265
02:29:58.440 --> 02:30:01.719
just me or there is another realm? Just crazy committed to this whole key

2266
02:30:01.840 --> 02:30:05.600
thing. Are they trying to be
serious or is it in a tongue in

2267
02:30:05.719 --> 02:30:11.120
cheek kind of way. I think
that's both. They're deadly serious about committing

2268
02:30:11.159 --> 02:30:18.360
to it. They will never allow
I love that though. Actually it's kind

2269
02:30:18.399 --> 02:30:24.360
of amazing. Really, it's really
dumb, decades decades long commitment to this

2270
02:30:24.680 --> 02:30:28.200
stupid, stupid gag that even in
the you think that just Ed Boone saw

2271
02:30:28.319 --> 02:30:31.440
like an early revision, turned on
subtitles and realized there are a bunch of

2272
02:30:31.520 --> 02:30:35.959
C words that had gone and change
like we can't. I bet it never

2273
02:30:35.000 --> 02:30:39.079
even got to him. It was
like, I bet everyone of there is

2274
02:30:39.159 --> 02:30:41.680
just like lockstep on that stuff,
just like no, this is how it's

2275
02:30:41.680 --> 02:30:48.520
done. Space C. Replace it
with space K. So every time a

2276
02:30:48.920 --> 02:30:56.360
word starts with C, it will
now start with K. Last email comes

2277
02:30:56.399 --> 02:30:58.040
in from Shy and Israel. Hey, bomb cast. I guess this is

2278
02:30:58.079 --> 02:31:01.680
a question for Brad, but any
one can answer. I would like to

2279
02:31:01.719 --> 02:31:03.639
play a final fantasy four. Should
I go with the DS political remake or

2280
02:31:03.719 --> 02:31:09.399
the new PSP collection? Oh man, Uh, the PSP one is more

2281
02:31:09.479 --> 02:31:15.440
faithful, it seems for sure.
Has the epilogue too right. The PSP

2282
02:31:15.559 --> 02:31:18.760
one in terms of like a value
proposition, it's the PSP one is chock

2283
02:31:18.840 --> 02:31:24.559
full. It's got it's got that
cell phone after years after years, sequel

2284
02:31:24.639 --> 02:31:28.479
and like a little interlude episode in
between. Uh. The DS one is

2285
02:31:28.559 --> 02:31:33.159
really well produced, but as hard
as fuck isn't I didn't get far enough

2286
02:31:33.200 --> 02:31:35.920
in the PSP one to know how
the difficulty has been tweaked there, but

2287
02:31:35.040 --> 02:31:39.200
yeah, DS one was so unforgiving
that I had stopped playing it. So

2288
02:31:39.719 --> 02:31:43.840
review forth, comic take Yes still
on the way, look for that soon,

2289
02:31:43.920 --> 02:31:46.159
so as I finish it. Uh, I don't know, man,

2290
02:31:48.680 --> 02:31:52.479
ps PSP, let's say, all
things being the same, you get the

2291
02:31:52.520 --> 02:31:56.159
d S version. Imagine for a
freaking song person is probably not super expensive

2292
02:31:56.200 --> 02:31:58.639
at this point. Yeah, but
then you're just getting you're getting more stuff

2293
02:31:58.719 --> 02:32:03.079
with the PSP version. Although it's
kind of cool to see what they did

2294
02:32:03.159 --> 02:32:05.360
with all like the three D cus
scenes, But it sounds like this might

2295
02:32:05.399 --> 02:32:09.399
be this dude's first experience with it. He may have not he may not

2296
02:32:09.479 --> 02:32:11.440
necessarily have the same nostalgia hood.
But I don't know if they're using the

2297
02:32:11.479 --> 02:32:16.639
same translation or like they added some
mechanics and abilities and stuff to the DS

2298
02:32:16.719 --> 02:32:20.239
one that may not be in the
PSP. Oh man, that's a tough

2299
02:32:20.360 --> 02:32:24.520
question. And they're putting all those
games to the iPhone two it's released one

2300
02:32:24.559 --> 02:32:26.559
of them. Oh, the two
D stuff, Yeah, no, the

2301
02:32:26.799 --> 02:32:30.319
no, the DS the three D
ones, the crazy remade ones yeah,

2302
02:32:30.520 --> 02:32:33.280
huh wow, one of them just
came out because they did three and then

2303
02:32:33.360 --> 02:32:37.159
four. Yeah, everybody, well, they released like the first one on

2304
02:32:37.799 --> 02:32:43.159
Yeah they released Yeah, but that
was two D right because those yeah,

2305
02:32:43.200 --> 02:32:46.159
those are those the original ones they
did one of the DSP makes. They

2306
02:32:46.200 --> 02:32:48.360
only did three and four in three
D on the DS. Okay, everybody

2307
02:32:48.559 --> 02:32:52.239
one of those. Everybody's been crying
for six, but it hasn't happened yet.

2308
02:32:52.760 --> 02:32:58.520
Well, went upon It got rated
somewhere for some I think for for

2309
02:32:58.600 --> 02:33:03.440
PSN so Chrono trick, also Coronach
for wait, what Final Fantasy six like

2310
02:33:03.799 --> 02:33:07.680
PSN for something? Yeah, probold
form look like they it will start as

2311
02:33:07.719 --> 02:33:11.760
a virtual you know, like an
original game release, and then they'll finally

2312
02:33:11.799 --> 02:33:16.760
give us our damn remaken. I
play the hellot like that? Oh yeah,

2313
02:33:16.879 --> 02:33:20.159
that be awesome. I want to
take bets on Final Fantasy seven remake

2314
02:33:20.200 --> 02:33:24.520
for m GP. I don't know
that ship kind of sail already? Why

2315
02:33:24.600 --> 02:33:26.399
not restart? It didn't right now? Didn't the ship with us? Didn't

2316
02:33:26.399 --> 02:33:31.559
the ship kind of sail on a
Sony handheld system? Oh no, the

2317
02:33:31.639 --> 02:33:35.399
future has come for us. We
gotta go all right, Wow, it's

2318
02:33:35.520 --> 02:33:37.840
robot from the future. My god, is that what he's gonna look like

2319
02:33:37.920 --> 02:33:41.600
for the foreseeable future? I think
so if any Caravella has special eyewear on

2320
02:33:41.799 --> 02:33:46.520
for his messed up eyes, they
probably just dilated somebody in a flashlight.

2321
02:33:46.639 --> 02:33:50.239
Can't wait, it's probably just like
a Today thing. So in closing,

2322
02:33:50.280 --> 02:33:54.520
any version of Final Fantasy four is
okay, yeah yeah, but DS version

2323
02:33:54.559 --> 02:33:58.799
gets fuck hard YEP version might get
Yeah. I go with the PSP one.

2324
02:33:58.840 --> 02:34:01.799
If you never played it before,
it's stuff. It's probably gonna be

2325
02:34:01.840 --> 02:34:05.239
closer to the original experience. It
seems good. Good piece of advice.

2326
02:34:05.639 --> 02:34:09.840
Uh, and that's it for emails. Thanks everyone who wrote in BombCast at

2327
02:34:09.879 --> 02:34:13.120
John bomb dot com is the address. Uh, and that's it for the

2328
02:34:13.239 --> 02:34:16.280
show. Patrick, thanks for coming
in again bringing us the news we so

2329
02:34:16.799 --> 02:34:24.600
desperately crave. Jeff, thank you
for bringing in your pizza expertise round it's

2330
02:34:24.680 --> 02:34:26.719
like a ball, like a sphere
and uh and Brad, thanks for getting

2331
02:34:26.760 --> 02:34:31.879
your Final Fantasy expertise here in space
yea, also space. I'm in space.

2332
02:34:33.920 --> 02:34:35.920
Oh yeah, I have to cut
that part all right, that's gonna

2333
02:34:35.920 --> 02:34:39.079
do it for this week's episode,
Oh of the Giant Podcast. Come on

2334
02:34:39.159 --> 02:34:41.040
back next Tuesday for another edition of
Diet Podcast.