WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:03.799 For thirty five years, Cindy Stumpo has been a female home builder with a 2 00:00:03.839 --> 00:00:07.919 passion for design, a mastery of detail, and a commitment to her crack. 3 00:00:08.039 --> 00:00:11.400 With daughter Samantha Stumpo by her side, I don't need my whole family 4 00:00:11.400 --> 00:00:13.800 on a date with me. That's a good note. It's goddemn weird. 5 00:00:13.919 --> 00:00:18.640 See. Stumpo Development is the only second generation female construction company in the country. 6 00:00:18.760 --> 00:00:23.160 You're crazy, You're a wacko, You're insane. I mean, it 7 00:00:23.239 --> 00:00:27.559 just doesn't end together. Cindy and Samantha welcome guests to explore the world of 8 00:00:27.600 --> 00:00:32.280 construction, real estate, development, design and more. Unpredictable. Every time 9 00:00:32.280 --> 00:00:34.520 I think I know what you want, you switch it out. But that's 10 00:00:34.560 --> 00:00:38.399 what makes sure houses all your day discuss anything that happens between the roof and 11 00:00:38.479 --> 00:00:42.560 the foundation. Nothing is off limits. You truly do care about everybody kicking 12 00:00:42.600 --> 00:00:45.159 yell a Chi gets screen, but when you get her alone, she's the 13 00:00:45.159 --> 00:00:53.840 best person on the planet. Cindy Stumpo is tough as nails and welcome to 14 00:00:53.880 --> 00:00:58.719 Cindy Stumbo chucks Nails on WBZ News Radio ten thirty and I'm here with who 15 00:00:58.880 --> 00:01:03.879 Samantha, your daughter Okay, So who's our guest? The first woman that 16 00:01:04.000 --> 00:01:11.439 actually interviewed me back how many years ago? About thirteen? More than that, 17 00:01:11.439 --> 00:01:15.159 Holley, we're three. Yeah, it's gonna be fourteen fifteen years I 18 00:01:15.200 --> 00:01:19.680 think, so fourteen years ago. Anyways, what is her name? It 19 00:01:19.719 --> 00:01:22.879 would be Candy. Oh, and she's always gonna be Candy. O. 20 00:01:23.519 --> 00:01:26.560 Hi, Hi, Candy. I am so happy to be here, and 21 00:01:26.640 --> 00:01:30.439 let me tell you you're doing this radio thing really well. And Hi there, 22 00:01:30.480 --> 00:01:33.400 Sammy, how are you? I feel like I haven't seen you in 23 00:01:33.439 --> 00:01:36.640 a million years now. I just see her name on real estate signs, 24 00:01:36.920 --> 00:01:38.959 I see pictures of the two of you on the covers of magazines, and 25 00:01:40.000 --> 00:01:42.079 I think to myself, I need to hang around with these two women a 26 00:01:42.120 --> 00:01:47.200 little more often, right, Candy, Yes night, you become Candyo at 27 00:01:47.239 --> 00:01:49.079 one O six point seven? How that happen? Oh my goodness? Well, 28 00:01:49.280 --> 00:01:53.280 first of all, my real name is oh Terry and yep. And 29 00:01:53.480 --> 00:01:59.560 before I got to magic, I was a jingle singer and a session singer, 30 00:02:00.040 --> 00:02:02.519 and I used to sign up all the time to do demo work in 31 00:02:02.599 --> 00:02:07.759 studios all around Boston. And there was this very famous studio called Syncro Sound 32 00:02:07.840 --> 00:02:13.520 on Newberry Street, which was owned by the Cars. And remember how the 33 00:02:13.560 --> 00:02:17.240 cars had the song Candyo. So I would sign in as Candyo and they'd 34 00:02:17.240 --> 00:02:21.520 be like yeah right, yeah right, like you're the reason for the album, 35 00:02:21.560 --> 00:02:23.560 and I'd be like, no, seriously, you guys, that's my 36 00:02:23.719 --> 00:02:27.199 name. So my married name is O Terry. And however, here's a 37 00:02:27.199 --> 00:02:31.120 little little piece of tidbit information. It's really Italian, it's not Irish, 38 00:02:31.360 --> 00:02:37.520 and it's supposed to be pronounced like that O T E R blue eyes. 39 00:02:38.360 --> 00:02:43.520 Right, I just happened to be Okay, I was married to an Italian, 40 00:02:43.560 --> 00:02:51.919 not anymore, and so I changed we are so anyway, I changed 41 00:02:51.960 --> 00:02:54.479 the spelling to oh apostrophe T E R R y. Actually my boss did 42 00:02:54.520 --> 00:02:59.080 that, and I've been Candio ever since. I like it. I never 43 00:02:59.080 --> 00:03:01.120 asked you that. Okay, can't he give it? Give the bio because 44 00:03:01.120 --> 00:03:05.199 I can sit and do this. You with Magic John, Magic John, 45 00:03:05.719 --> 00:03:09.039 No, I have never been with Magic John. To god right, you 46 00:03:09.080 --> 00:03:13.680 started with go ahead, Oh my goodness, give you a bio. Okay. 47 00:03:13.840 --> 00:03:16.280 So I got started as a singer, and that's what brought me into 48 00:03:16.360 --> 00:03:22.719 radio. Most people in radio always had a dream. Cindy and Sam that 49 00:03:22.800 --> 00:03:25.680 they were going to be talking about the music on the radio and spinning the 50 00:03:25.719 --> 00:03:29.960 records back in the day. For me, I wanted to be singing the 51 00:03:30.000 --> 00:03:32.680 songs on the radio. So I was a demo singer and a session singer, 52 00:03:32.719 --> 00:03:36.400 and I fronted a band all the way through the eighties, and I 53 00:03:36.439 --> 00:03:38.719 have the pictures to prove it. Let me tell you, I got the 54 00:03:38.759 --> 00:03:42.080 shoulder pads. Did you ever have a tail, Cindy, remember the little 55 00:03:42.120 --> 00:03:45.319 tail? You know what I'm talking about, right, So, anyway, 56 00:03:45.400 --> 00:03:50.919 I got into radio shoulder pads. Okay, So I got into radio when 57 00:03:51.159 --> 00:03:54.240 that guy that I talked to you about, my Italian first husband left me 58 00:03:54.360 --> 00:03:59.520 and the kids and I needed a full time job. And I knew, 59 00:03:59.639 --> 00:04:01.479 hey, you know I can hear my jingles on the radio, and I 60 00:04:01.560 --> 00:04:04.719 know all about the music because I'm a singer, I should get a job 61 00:04:04.719 --> 00:04:11.319 at a radio station because they have health insurance, and maybe I'll be able 62 00:04:11.360 --> 00:04:14.479 to earn a living. And literally, I got a job as a fill 63 00:04:14.520 --> 00:04:19.720 in secretary for eight weeks and the woman that I was filling in for never 64 00:04:19.839 --> 00:04:26.279 left. I mean she went on maternity leave and then the job became permanent. 65 00:04:26.319 --> 00:04:30.040 So That's how I got into radio, kind of like sticking my foot 66 00:04:30.040 --> 00:04:32.240 in the door, getting the first job that I could possibly ever get, 67 00:04:32.439 --> 00:04:35.639 just so I could take care of the health insurance for my kids. And 68 00:04:35.720 --> 00:04:39.920 I spent twenty five years on Magic when O six point seven started out as 69 00:04:39.920 --> 00:04:44.519 the secretary, got on the air when someone fell asleep on the radio and 70 00:04:44.560 --> 00:04:47.600 got fired and they had nobody else to put on but me on a very 71 00:04:47.600 --> 00:04:51.920 lonely summer weekend here in Boston, and spent the next twenty five years doing 72 00:04:51.959 --> 00:04:56.439 it. And then, as you just mentioned on the intro, I created 73 00:04:56.480 --> 00:05:00.000 a show asleep. Huh, thank god the person fell asleep. Thank God. 74 00:05:00.199 --> 00:05:04.319 From miracles, you guys, somebody's win. That's right, That's exactly 75 00:05:04.439 --> 00:05:08.800 true. Like when God closes the door, he opens a window. I 76 00:05:08.839 --> 00:05:12.839 believe in all of that stuff, and I needed a miracle right around then. 77 00:05:13.000 --> 00:05:15.199 I really did. I needed and I needed somebody to believe in me, 78 00:05:15.279 --> 00:05:19.279 and radio was the perfect place for me. It really was. But 79 00:05:19.360 --> 00:05:23.680 then I started this show called Exceptional Women, which is the show that you 80 00:05:23.720 --> 00:05:29.160 were featured on, and that's when we became friends and fans of each other 81 00:05:29.319 --> 00:05:31.000 absolutely. And here I am, I'm like gum on the bottom of your 82 00:05:31.040 --> 00:05:33.079 shoe. You can't get rid of me. It's Sam. You're in the 83 00:05:33.079 --> 00:05:38.040 studio with me. Yes, when I did that interview, and I'm like, 84 00:05:38.680 --> 00:05:41.839 okay, yeah, exceptional woman? What makes me an exceptional woman? 85 00:05:42.000 --> 00:05:45.120 And actually I remember when you called me to do that. I was away 86 00:05:45.480 --> 00:05:47.079 and I took the call and I was in a hotel room. I'm like, 87 00:05:47.439 --> 00:05:51.240 it's k' kn't okay, hikt Cindy. I want to feature you. 88 00:05:53.079 --> 00:05:57.040 We do once a year Exceptional Women and the Awards. Yeah, and first 89 00:05:57.040 --> 00:05:59.680 you come into the radio and we do an interview there, and then you 90 00:05:59.720 --> 00:06:01.959 come to the event. I'm like, sure, this is all cool whatever. 91 00:06:02.079 --> 00:06:05.160 But it turned out to be an amazing event, amazing and you were 92 00:06:05.319 --> 00:06:10.720 terrified to do it, terrified again on that and you did have an anxiety 93 00:06:10.759 --> 00:06:15.240 at attack. And she was amazing, wasn't she? Sama? Right? 94 00:06:15.720 --> 00:06:18.759 A standout speaker that day, a standout Let's remember I had to go back 95 00:06:18.879 --> 00:06:23.079 to the back room for a minute. Had they say gimme gimmey is the 96 00:06:23.199 --> 00:06:27.519 next time you saying is there anybody else who can do this? I really 97 00:06:27.600 --> 00:06:30.240 don't want to And I was like, it's a little late. Now there's 98 00:06:30.279 --> 00:06:32.279 a thousand people in this room, but you go, I'll stand right next 99 00:06:32.319 --> 00:06:34.639 to you. That's right, and what I said, and she stood right 100 00:06:34.720 --> 00:06:38.120 next to me, and we pulled it off. I got a baby, 101 00:06:38.279 --> 00:06:41.959 welcome to stage fright from panic attacks. But look at sap inside. Some 102 00:06:42.040 --> 00:06:46.079 of the best share Collie Simon's right. Oh my goodness. I have had 103 00:06:46.160 --> 00:06:50.040 the honor you guys. And I'm almost up to a thousand women who have 104 00:06:50.199 --> 00:06:57.120 told me their stories, and including first ladies, the first woman in space, 105 00:06:57.759 --> 00:07:01.279 superstars, you name it, and women like you, Cindy, who 106 00:07:01.360 --> 00:07:06.879 are blazing trails doing things that other women haven't done before. And everyone that 107 00:07:08.000 --> 00:07:12.240 I interview, it's like they provide a roadmap for the woman who's listening to 108 00:07:12.319 --> 00:07:15.560 the show, going Okay, if she can do it, I can do 109 00:07:15.639 --> 00:07:18.040 it. So now I have a podcast in a radio series and it's called 110 00:07:18.079 --> 00:07:21.639 The Story Behind Her Success, which is really a ripoff of my Exceptional Women 111 00:07:21.720 --> 00:07:26.759 idea, same concept. Now, why not exceptional women? Did one O 112 00:07:26.839 --> 00:07:29.720 six point seven own that? And yes, yes, And so I was 113 00:07:29.800 --> 00:07:32.879 under contract to the radio station. And when I left the station on my 114 00:07:33.000 --> 00:07:38.240 own, nobody kicked me out the door. They own everything that I created 115 00:07:38.279 --> 00:07:41.800 while I was there. But they're not doing it anymore. I think they 116 00:07:41.839 --> 00:07:44.279 are. I don't know if they're doing it as well as I was doing 117 00:07:44.360 --> 00:07:46.759 it. But you know what, can I tell you, I never even 118 00:07:46.800 --> 00:07:48.720 hear about it anymore. Okay, So we have a new one. So 119 00:07:48.879 --> 00:07:53.120 it's the story behind her success. And I didn't event for you for that 120 00:07:53.720 --> 00:07:59.040 recently before COVID. We did it in Quincy. Yes, that's the story 121 00:07:59.120 --> 00:08:01.720 behind her success. Luncheon, and there's going to be another one coming up 122 00:08:01.759 --> 00:08:05.040 in October, so maybe you can come to that one. That was a 123 00:08:05.079 --> 00:08:07.879 going too. So Candy put some on very good events. Great, I 124 00:08:07.959 --> 00:08:09.720 mean, but exceptional woman. When I was six point seven, you did 125 00:08:09.800 --> 00:08:16.079 that like top top two. It was pretty stunning. We did them a 126 00:08:16.319 --> 00:08:18.959 thirteen times, so, you know, and we made we made money for 127 00:08:20.079 --> 00:08:24.680 breast cancer, so that meant a lot to everybody. So here's my question, 128 00:08:24.839 --> 00:08:28.000 Yes, ma'am, was it difficult being a single mom through all this 129 00:08:28.199 --> 00:08:31.440 building your career, becoming a local celebrity? Right? People got to know 130 00:08:31.720 --> 00:08:35.120 they knew their mom, their mom's on radio. Right, you know, 131 00:08:35.279 --> 00:08:39.279 how's that going? You know what? At that time? At that time, 132 00:08:39.960 --> 00:08:43.320 and I look at your relationship with Sam, which by the way, 133 00:08:43.879 --> 00:08:50.039 I've always admired, and my daughter, Colleen and I have a very similar 134 00:08:50.159 --> 00:08:54.919 relationship. That mother daughter connection is so strong. I also have a son 135 00:08:54.120 --> 00:08:58.519 named Christopher, three years older than Colleen. And when I first got started 136 00:08:58.559 --> 00:09:01.919 on the air, you know, you don't start in the middle of the 137 00:09:01.000 --> 00:09:05.559 day. They start you in the middle of the night on the weekend because 138 00:09:05.639 --> 00:09:09.159 you suck. Okay, I mean that's why they do it. And so 139 00:09:09.759 --> 00:09:15.559 my children used to sleep in the newsroom and I would get them, you 140 00:09:15.639 --> 00:09:18.159 know, sleeping bag. You know the commercial breaks. Hold that thought would 141 00:09:18.159 --> 00:09:20.960 be right back. I'm Sidy stumbling you listen to the Toughest Nails on WBZ 142 00:09:22.080 --> 00:09:24.120 News Radio ten thirty. Be right back, sponsored by Floor and Decor, 143 00:09:24.360 --> 00:09:35.159 National Lumber, and Village Bang, How the Week arrested? Thank you so 144 00:09:35.480 --> 00:09:43.120 long and wait and welcome back to Toughest Nails on WBC News Radio ten thirty. 145 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:46.320 And I'm Cindy. I'm here with Smantha and we're here with Candy. 146 00:09:46.440 --> 00:09:50.399 Oh okay, Candy, pick it up from where you left off. I 147 00:09:50.559 --> 00:09:54.000 was telling the story about how my children used to come with me when I 148 00:09:54.080 --> 00:09:56.320 was on the air because as a single mom, it's the middle of the 149 00:09:56.399 --> 00:09:58.919 night. So they would bring sleeping bags and they would sleep on the news 150 00:10:00.120 --> 00:10:03.879 room floor while I was on the air. And I'm telling you I first 151 00:10:03.919 --> 00:10:07.399 of all, remember I'm working all week long as the secretary to the program 152 00:10:07.559 --> 00:10:11.720 director, and then on Friday night, I go home. I sleep for 153 00:10:11.720 --> 00:10:15.279 a few hours to get up at midnight and do midnight to five thirty. 154 00:10:16.159 --> 00:10:20.279 And so there are the kids. Now what I would do is jumping jacks. 155 00:10:20.519 --> 00:10:24.159 At about two o'clock in the morning, I'd start doing my jumping jacks, 156 00:10:24.360 --> 00:10:26.879 and I'd have a box of cereal for the kids so that when they 157 00:10:26.960 --> 00:10:30.000 woke up they'd eat their applejacks or whatever it was that they were eating in 158 00:10:30.080 --> 00:10:33.200 the newsroom. But the other stories about, you know, being someone on 159 00:10:33.320 --> 00:10:37.679 the radio in Boston is when you're on the radio, you're not seen, 160 00:10:37.759 --> 00:10:43.120 You're only heard, and so people get an impression of what you look like, 161 00:10:43.600 --> 00:10:45.559 and you know, they can go to the website and look what. 162 00:10:45.639 --> 00:10:48.279 Most people are lazy, and they don't so wherever I would go. As 163 00:10:48.360 --> 00:10:52.480 I started getting more and more popular, Now I'm on in the middle of 164 00:10:52.480 --> 00:10:54.759 the day. Now I'm on on three of our five radio stations, and 165 00:10:54.879 --> 00:10:58.360 I'm kind of ubiquitous. Okay. After years go by, I go to 166 00:10:58.399 --> 00:11:03.600 the post office and the guy behind the counter is like, wait a minute, 167 00:11:03.840 --> 00:11:05.600 wait a minute, say that one more time, say that one more 168 00:11:05.639 --> 00:11:09.600 time, and I'm okay and I'll talk and he goes, that's it. 169 00:11:09.960 --> 00:11:11.799 You're Candy Oh on the radio, Like this is what you go through. 170 00:11:11.960 --> 00:11:16.320 So that's when you knew you made it, Candy Oh. And my children 171 00:11:16.399 --> 00:11:20.279 used to mock me and they'd answer the phone and go, Hi, I'm 172 00:11:20.360 --> 00:11:24.399 Candy O. I'm the radio, and I was. My next question is 173 00:11:24.440 --> 00:11:28.720 going to be how many years it take for you to feel like you made 174 00:11:28.720 --> 00:11:31.919 it in radio? I think you just answer the question the postman said. 175 00:11:31.960 --> 00:11:35.159 Your man says, close his eyes, say that one more time. How 176 00:11:35.200 --> 00:11:39.879 many years before you're in this business? Do you feel so comfortable behind this 177 00:11:39.080 --> 00:11:46.360 mic right way? You know, I bring yourself to other DJs. I 178 00:11:46.440 --> 00:11:52.120 will never forget the first moment when I was live on the air and I 179 00:11:52.360 --> 00:11:58.480 felt my voice travel through space and time and it really only happens to you 180 00:11:58.679 --> 00:12:01.919 once and really never again. And I remember thinking, oh my god, 181 00:12:03.200 --> 00:12:07.240 I might be on in the middle of the night, But sixty thousand people 182 00:12:07.440 --> 00:12:11.320 are actually hearing me, screw this entire show up. Okay, it's not 183 00:12:11.519 --> 00:12:16.960 like I'm anonymous, you know, But interestingly enough, in terms of my 184 00:12:16.200 --> 00:12:22.519 career trajectory, Cindy, it was brutal. And I'm going to tell you 185 00:12:22.639 --> 00:12:28.320 that with a capital B. Every step forward, step back. Oh, 186 00:12:28.480 --> 00:12:31.919 she's a secretary. We don't put secretaries on the air. What do you 187 00:12:31.039 --> 00:12:35.080 mean you have an idea for a show called Exceptional Women? Who are you 188 00:12:35.639 --> 00:12:39.279 like? I had to constantly prove myself over and over and over again, 189 00:12:39.639 --> 00:12:43.440 and it took a long time. And I also had to find other women 190 00:12:43.919 --> 00:12:46.879 to be my allies, like our news director Gave Vernon, who was my 191 00:12:48.000 --> 00:12:52.159 co host, huge ally of mine, my boss huge ally of mine. 192 00:12:52.519 --> 00:12:58.039 But again, when you start out as the secretary, it's like turning the 193 00:12:58.279 --> 00:13:03.200 Titanic. And a lot of people said to me years later, you would 194 00:13:03.240 --> 00:13:09.200 have come along faster if you'd left Boston and gone to Hartford or gone to 195 00:13:09.279 --> 00:13:13.080 Springfield, because you would have ended up in New York or Los Angeles. 196 00:13:13.120 --> 00:13:16.120 You would have ended up in a bigger market than Boston. Because I'm really 197 00:13:16.159 --> 00:13:20.759 good at what I do. But when you start somewhere as the low person 198 00:13:20.840 --> 00:13:22.840 on the totem pole. Let me promise you there are a lot of people 199 00:13:22.879 --> 00:13:28.960 who do not want to see you succeed. I would say that's in most 200 00:13:28.000 --> 00:13:31.879 businesses. There you go, and I knew you'd say that. Tough as 201 00:13:31.960 --> 00:13:37.360 nails, lady, I would say that, it's funny to watch the generations. 202 00:13:37.600 --> 00:13:41.720 You know, I watched my grandfather. I watched my father take guys 203 00:13:41.840 --> 00:13:46.559 up from underneath them. Yeah right, and take that, and many developers 204 00:13:46.679 --> 00:13:50.039 and real estate guys and venture capitalists and hedge fund guys, they took that 205 00:13:50.200 --> 00:13:54.679 young guy out of Harvard, am I whatever, it was, right right, 206 00:13:54.960 --> 00:13:56.360 And it's like, you come with me, buddy, you got what 207 00:13:56.480 --> 00:14:01.080 it takes. But women don't do that, not enough to although I found 208 00:14:01.080 --> 00:14:03.840 a few who did, and God bless them for that. And I never 209 00:14:03.960 --> 00:14:07.559 forgot it. No one's going to take me under their wing, Okay, 210 00:14:07.320 --> 00:14:11.279 but it's okay. I took my daughter under my wing, right, and 211 00:14:11.440 --> 00:14:16.000 that's been so beautiful to watch. Honestly wanted that. And other women didn't 212 00:14:16.080 --> 00:14:20.639 like that. Yeah, they were harassed. Yeah, absolutely, you know, 213 00:14:20.039 --> 00:14:24.559 Oh Samantha gets this because she's a daughter. They all these brokers forget 214 00:14:24.000 --> 00:14:28.519 that I was in business for thirty years prior to Samantha coming into the business 215 00:14:28.600 --> 00:14:31.519 twenty eight years, that they made millions of dollars off me and to help 216 00:14:31.600 --> 00:14:35.480 build their careers, right what I was going to help build my daughter? 217 00:14:35.120 --> 00:14:37.799 Like hello. But you know the other thing too, though, And I've 218 00:14:37.919 --> 00:14:43.200 noticed this about sam is that you can open the door for her, but 219 00:14:43.360 --> 00:14:46.600 she's through it. She's got to go through it. She's got to deliver 220 00:14:46.720 --> 00:14:48.759 the goods and in a lot of ways, she's got to be ten times 221 00:14:48.840 --> 00:14:54.039 better than the other person you might give a chance to. Look. She 222 00:14:54.559 --> 00:14:56.480 had an article that came out a few years ago. She's been in Boston 223 00:14:56.600 --> 00:15:00.759 magazine a few times. But I saw the rep to write, you know, 224 00:15:01.320 --> 00:15:03.879 Cindy Stumpos her mom, bah bah bah, And the article came out 225 00:15:03.879 --> 00:15:07.840 she was in California. I'm like, Saammy, I don't like this. 226 00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:11.399 Like you've now you're on your own. They have to stop saying you're Cindy 227 00:15:11.440 --> 00:15:16.159 Stumpo's daughter, Like and she's like, Mom, that doesn't bother me. 228 00:15:16.240 --> 00:15:20.600 I'm like, but it bothers no, Mom, because if you weren't my 229 00:15:20.720 --> 00:15:22.960 mom, I would be where I am safe. So I'm proud that you're 230 00:15:24.000 --> 00:15:26.519 my mom. And I'm on the phone with three thousand miles away going I'm 231 00:15:26.559 --> 00:15:31.840 ready to kill the reporter. Right, So we do. And that was 232 00:15:31.000 --> 00:15:33.159 nice to say, though, Sam, And you're right with this girl. 233 00:15:33.240 --> 00:15:37.159 Stand on her row two feet let us right. You open the door, 234 00:15:37.480 --> 00:15:41.480 either one or two things happens. They go through it, or they keep 235 00:15:41.559 --> 00:15:45.159 hitting the glass that you don't see and they fall backward. Right. Absolutely, 236 00:15:45.200 --> 00:15:48.919 she's who she is today. Look at I led the horse to water, 237 00:15:48.360 --> 00:15:52.519 but she drank and today I take her advice. Trust me, Sam, 238 00:15:52.559 --> 00:15:56.200 I'm going to buy that deal. Now that deal doesn't make money. 239 00:15:56.360 --> 00:15:58.919 Okay, I'm not going to buy that deal. I never thought the roles 240 00:15:58.960 --> 00:16:03.720 are wisdom from the mouths of babes. Crazy. Okay. So how many 241 00:16:03.759 --> 00:16:06.919 stations did you work at? Was it just what I say? You know? 242 00:16:07.000 --> 00:16:10.399 What was really interesting is I worked for a company called Greater Media, 243 00:16:10.840 --> 00:16:14.919 and Greater Media owned five radio stations. We were all under one roof in 244 00:16:15.080 --> 00:16:18.600 Dorchester. There now have a new location and they've been sold to a company 245 00:16:18.639 --> 00:16:23.320 called Beasley Media. But at the time we had one long hallway and in 246 00:16:23.399 --> 00:16:29.519 that long hallway all five radio stations existed. All the studios were one right 247 00:16:29.720 --> 00:16:33.840 after the other, and they used me in the afternoon as a traffic anchor 248 00:16:33.919 --> 00:16:37.480 and a weather persons, and so I used to just keep my headphones on 249 00:16:38.360 --> 00:16:45.000 and I would plug into our FM talk station and do weather and traffic in 250 00:16:45.120 --> 00:16:48.200 news at the top and bottom of the hour, and then I would do 251 00:16:48.639 --> 00:16:56.080 traffic and handoffs like lifestyle pieces on our country station and on Magic one oh 252 00:16:56.120 --> 00:16:59.639 six point seven. And there were times, you guys, seriously, where 253 00:16:59.679 --> 00:17:03.480 I'm running down the hallway plugging in, plugging out. I don't even know 254 00:17:03.559 --> 00:17:07.200 what station I'm on half the top, right, So you were just going 255 00:17:07.480 --> 00:17:10.599 you work at the same umbrella, but you just go sta correct. And 256 00:17:10.680 --> 00:17:14.519 I was also the assistant program director, so I had a management position behind 257 00:17:14.559 --> 00:17:18.720 the scenes, so that that little single mom who started out as the secretary 258 00:17:18.759 --> 00:17:22.599 to the program director rose to become the second in command of the station. 259 00:17:22.680 --> 00:17:25.720 And I was one of only six women in the country in that role at 260 00:17:25.759 --> 00:17:30.079 that time. It seems that back then it was a higher paying job than 261 00:17:30.119 --> 00:17:33.920 it is now. I think you're right. I think you're right. I 262 00:17:33.039 --> 00:17:38.839 think the contract that I turned down to do mornings on Magic winnow six point 263 00:17:38.920 --> 00:17:45.279 seven in twenty fifteen is probably twenty five percent less now than when I left. 264 00:17:47.079 --> 00:17:49.039 Really, yeah, I think that's pretty what happened, pretty bad. 265 00:17:49.039 --> 00:17:52.279 I just had enough. You know, it's a long story, but I'll 266 00:17:52.279 --> 00:17:56.039 give you my short version, the short version of the Reata's digest version. 267 00:17:56.079 --> 00:18:00.279 Go ahead. It really sucks to get up at three thirty in the morning, 268 00:18:00.519 --> 00:18:04.759 and that's what you're doing day after day after day. And I did 269 00:18:04.799 --> 00:18:07.920 it for two years, and they wanted me to do a three year deal, 270 00:18:08.559 --> 00:18:11.200 and I said, you know, can we just do one year? 271 00:18:11.240 --> 00:18:14.000 I think I could do it for one year. And they were like, 272 00:18:14.160 --> 00:18:18.759 that's like being engaged and never getting married. I'll never forget it. And 273 00:18:18.880 --> 00:18:21.000 I was like, but that's all I got in the tank for you. 274 00:18:21.000 --> 00:18:23.160 You know, I don't have any more in the tank. And it's interesting 275 00:18:23.240 --> 00:18:27.400 because when you're really young, you can do that. You know, you 276 00:18:27.759 --> 00:18:33.960 can sleep for two hours and do an appearance and go home and still look 277 00:18:33.000 --> 00:18:37.119 good. Well guess what you can't. You know, when you're in your 278 00:18:37.160 --> 00:18:41.640 fifties, you can't. And it really really beat the crap out of me, 279 00:18:41.000 --> 00:18:44.880 really did beat the crap out of me. And I felt like i'd 280 00:18:44.960 --> 00:18:48.559 also climbed the mountain. When you think about it, when you do morning 281 00:18:48.680 --> 00:18:52.559 drive, that's the day part where in radio you make the most money, 282 00:18:52.960 --> 00:18:56.839 right, And I had a pretty good deal. But I thought, you 283 00:18:56.920 --> 00:19:00.200 know what, I've gone from here to here and everywhere between, and a 284 00:19:00.279 --> 00:19:03.720 lot of my friends were leaving, and I thought, you know what, 285 00:19:03.839 --> 00:19:07.400 I'm going to start my own new chapter where I'm going to be in charge 286 00:19:07.599 --> 00:19:11.359 of all my own content and nobody can tell me what to do what to 287 00:19:11.480 --> 00:19:15.000 do, And that's how it goes. But it's funny how you get to 288 00:19:15.039 --> 00:19:18.839 a certain age and you literally start to do that countdown and you start to 289 00:19:18.960 --> 00:19:22.720 say, how do I want to live the next They're so ris I have 290 00:19:22.920 --> 00:19:25.559 yat of my life right, Yes, I want to be getting up this 291 00:19:25.680 --> 00:19:27.400 early yep, doing this And then you start to wait it all out. 292 00:19:27.839 --> 00:19:32.759 But then there's a part of you that misses it. But if you made 293 00:19:32.799 --> 00:19:34.759 the right choice because you said I need quality of life, I'm going to 294 00:19:34.799 --> 00:19:37.359 hold my own thought. Right now, I'm sinning stud pointing and listen to 295 00:19:37.440 --> 00:19:41.079 Tough his Nails on WDZ News. Lady your tenth third, don't give me 296 00:19:41.200 --> 00:19:44.799 rite back? Sponsored by Pillow Windows of Boston. Next day, Molding and 297 00:19:45.000 --> 00:20:00.000 Kennedy Carpet came to my rescue at the moment and welcome the city. Stumbo 298 00:20:00.119 --> 00:20:04.400 Toughest Nails on wbn Z News Radio ten thirty. I'm here with Smantha and 299 00:20:06.640 --> 00:20:10.839 kid Neil beautiful Candio. But yeah, you start to do the contown, 300 00:20:11.400 --> 00:20:15.160 and you said I want to life. I did start to do the countdown. 301 00:20:15.200 --> 00:20:18.079 And I think any woman who's listening to this program is very aware of 302 00:20:18.119 --> 00:20:22.000 what we call the runway. Okay, the older we get, you know, 303 00:20:22.119 --> 00:20:23.079 and and by the way, you and I are not old. We 304 00:20:23.160 --> 00:20:26.240 look damn good, right, we got plenty of runway. But you just 305 00:20:26.400 --> 00:20:32.759 start becoming more conscious of what you do and do not want. What's what 306 00:20:32.920 --> 00:20:36.000 you're willing to accept? How much more of a countdown? Let's just run 307 00:20:36.039 --> 00:20:37.880 away we were going into. Just just give me your heads up. We're 308 00:20:37.920 --> 00:20:41.960 getting old then, Okay, no, no, you're only getting better. 309 00:20:41.039 --> 00:20:47.160 Cindy stumfo. Let me tell you look like a million bucks. Okay, 310 00:20:47.440 --> 00:20:49.400 you look like a million bucks. You've got so much in the tank, 311 00:20:49.680 --> 00:20:53.200 You've got so much energy, you've got so much passion for everything that you 312 00:20:53.359 --> 00:20:57.400 do. But what I'm saying is. I'm just not going to compromise anymore. 313 00:20:57.480 --> 00:21:00.279 We have a conversation with Aba that you can so you know that thing 314 00:21:00.880 --> 00:21:04.279 and we've you know, that guy with the black you know who I'm talking 315 00:21:04.279 --> 00:21:07.440 about. You know, you know, come on, you know you haven't 316 00:21:07.440 --> 00:21:11.599 had this conversation the guy with the black hair. She's giving you an example, 317 00:21:11.640 --> 00:21:15.279 like when you're talking you can't remember the person's name, you tell a 318 00:21:15.359 --> 00:21:19.640 story, oh yes, or uh, what's you know? I forget? 319 00:21:19.799 --> 00:21:22.880 I do. I do have a hard time coming up with words. Every 320 00:21:22.880 --> 00:21:26.680 once in a while. My husband and I have a pact whereby when I 321 00:21:26.839 --> 00:21:30.960 forget something, he's in charge of remembering that, and vice versa. That's 322 00:21:30.039 --> 00:21:34.039 love, baby. How many times have you said, what's that show watched 323 00:21:34.119 --> 00:21:37.680 again? And he goes, We've watched two scenes already and you can't remember 324 00:21:37.960 --> 00:21:41.599 that would be called Yellowstone Hunt. Yeah, that's it. Thank you, 325 00:21:41.759 --> 00:21:45.240 Okay, thank you. You have to know that like that, stuff starts 326 00:21:45.279 --> 00:21:48.680 happening and you're going this, this is my best one. Both of us 327 00:21:48.759 --> 00:21:52.839 have our glasses, but there'll be times I put three ps on my head 328 00:21:53.160 --> 00:21:59.440 and I'll go, oh my god, I do that. She has a 329 00:21:59.480 --> 00:22:02.799 theory that you certainly your face and then get numb and you can't feel them. 330 00:22:02.960 --> 00:22:06.839 Oh, go over my head. She'll take a picture. She goes, 331 00:22:07.119 --> 00:22:08.720 you got three of them lined up on your head. I just said, 332 00:22:08.880 --> 00:22:11.440 does your head go numb after a certain age? Like what happens? 333 00:22:11.519 --> 00:22:14.880 Right? Well, right, for the first time, actually knew what you 334 00:22:14.960 --> 00:22:17.400 were talking about the other day. But the hardest is when you text me 335 00:22:17.519 --> 00:22:19.519 this and I can still figure out, like it's like Cindy's own language, 336 00:22:19.519 --> 00:22:22.240 and I'm like, we're talking about this, we're talking about that. How 337 00:22:22.279 --> 00:22:26.599 many times have you said to yourself? Maybe I have all times. Maybe 338 00:22:26.599 --> 00:22:30.039 I'm getting you know, I'm going to admit that that is that is a 339 00:22:30.119 --> 00:22:33.319 concern. That is a concern every once in a while. But you know 340 00:22:33.440 --> 00:22:37.160 what, that's why I swim every day. That's why I'm trying to stay 341 00:22:37.200 --> 00:22:40.039 as healthy as I can. You know. But listen, you and I 342 00:22:40.519 --> 00:22:44.160 are rocket Okay, we are so far from the finish line. Come on 343 00:22:44.359 --> 00:22:48.960 now, but still hold on, We're going hold on. I'm busted. 344 00:22:49.000 --> 00:22:52.160 I'm busted here, all right, Okay, tell me what else going on? 345 00:22:52.799 --> 00:22:56.960 Is there something in your bucket list that you haven't done to the moment, 346 00:22:56.039 --> 00:23:00.240 that you really want to do. Well, yes, there are couple 347 00:23:00.359 --> 00:23:03.240 things. Number One, I created a couple Okay, I only got so 348 00:23:03.279 --> 00:23:07.200 many years left here. I created, I create, don't fence me in. 349 00:23:08.400 --> 00:23:14.799 I created a radio network because I wanted to be able to run the 350 00:23:14.880 --> 00:23:18.839 story behind her success on multiple radio stations. So I have nine stations that 351 00:23:18.920 --> 00:23:22.599 are now running my show, and I would like to continue like a syndication 352 00:23:22.720 --> 00:23:26.359 that you got it. And that's a way to monetize my content, right. 353 00:23:27.000 --> 00:23:30.640 And this was another example of what my mother used to say, which 354 00:23:30.839 --> 00:23:34.519 was Candice, stand on your own two feet, figure it out. And 355 00:23:34.720 --> 00:23:38.200 I was sick and tired of asking for permission to do things. How come 356 00:23:38.240 --> 00:23:41.799 women get that? But you can't say that to a guy. Oh there's 357 00:23:41.839 --> 00:23:45.279 so many things. Oh my god, Sam, so many things. It's 358 00:23:45.359 --> 00:23:48.400 just not as swat as me. Yeah. So anyway, there's the radio 359 00:23:48.480 --> 00:23:52.440 network. I want to continue to expand that. And I really want to 360 00:23:52.519 --> 00:23:59.519 take everything that I've done around women's empowerment and bring it all under one umbrella. 361 00:24:00.359 --> 00:24:03.200 And that includes my sixteen life lessons, the story behind her success, 362 00:24:03.640 --> 00:24:11.599 the radio network, and I would like to have a huge empowering platform where 363 00:24:11.680 --> 00:24:15.680 I go all across the country and inspire huge audiences, not just with the 364 00:24:15.799 --> 00:24:21.480 stories of the women that I've interviewed, but also with ways they can enrich 365 00:24:21.599 --> 00:24:26.480 their own lives. And that would come down to me sharing my experience as 366 00:24:26.519 --> 00:24:30.640 a speaker coach. How can you make sure your voice is heard? How 367 00:24:30.720 --> 00:24:36.039 do you pursue your dreams and goals? And using these women as exampers, 368 00:24:36.440 --> 00:24:40.599 examples, pieces of their audio, pieces of their music, It's an interactive 369 00:24:40.680 --> 00:24:44.240 experience. I see it in my mind. Okay, so you want to 370 00:24:44.279 --> 00:24:45.599 bring that to fruition, Yes, I do want to go out. You 371 00:24:45.680 --> 00:24:48.759 want to go out and start hitting state out to state after state? Yeah, 372 00:24:49.160 --> 00:24:52.960 yeah, I could see it byself or with it. I think. 373 00:24:53.160 --> 00:24:57.759 I think this is a huge production thing. I think it will involve a 374 00:24:57.799 --> 00:25:00.839 lot of people. But it's it's in my mind's eye, It's in my 375 00:25:00.960 --> 00:25:06.960 dream, you know. It's funny, long before any of these conferences, 376 00:25:07.079 --> 00:25:10.640 and yeah, Candy and Liz and I we sat down, we had a 377 00:25:10.680 --> 00:25:15.599 meeting to do this, and we would be so big right now. We 378 00:25:15.759 --> 00:25:18.079 literally what over ten years ago we sat down to discussed this. No, 379 00:25:18.119 --> 00:25:21.079 I do on think it was ten years and eight years it was a while. 380 00:25:21.160 --> 00:25:25.319 It lost years to COVID, so go back pride to Okay, Okay, 381 00:25:25.440 --> 00:25:29.160 so add a few. So let's go seven years. How long has 382 00:25:29.359 --> 00:25:34.240 has Liz been around on independent? Liz has been off television since twenty thirteen, 383 00:25:34.440 --> 00:25:37.440 and I've been off the air since twenty fifteen. All Right, it's 384 00:25:37.519 --> 00:25:41.880 like sixteen we met. Let's say, okay to talk about this, but 385 00:25:41.960 --> 00:25:45.160 we're all so busy, Oh my god, companies and you know what, 386 00:25:45.319 --> 00:25:48.880 there is a time where sometimes it's a serendipitous moment right where it all comes 387 00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:52.000 together. Don't you worry, Cindy Semple, I haven't forgotten about you. 388 00:25:52.200 --> 00:25:56.079 Yeah, And I have people that want me to go do that and run 389 00:25:56.200 --> 00:26:00.359 with them. Then I have to go up and down on airplanes down, 390 00:26:00.680 --> 00:26:04.400 and everybody knows city doesn't really love to fly. Okay, So that's the 391 00:26:04.480 --> 00:26:07.599 two things on the bucket list that you want to do. Yeah, okay, 392 00:26:07.680 --> 00:26:12.480 then why are you doing it? Well? I think that I'm pretty 393 00:26:12.519 --> 00:26:18.240 close to pressing go on this. I've been really motivated over the last couple 394 00:26:18.319 --> 00:26:22.559 of days. Have you guys heard of Tony Robbins. Of course, I 395 00:26:22.720 --> 00:26:27.279 just finished a five day Tony Robbins immersion experience and during that he came to 396 00:26:27.359 --> 00:26:30.680 Boston a few years ago. It was him, Brady. They go in 397 00:26:30.799 --> 00:26:33.960 touch with me to do the circuit in the New England area, and I 398 00:26:34.160 --> 00:26:37.519 just I too. We were so slammed. I couldn't do it. I 399 00:26:37.640 --> 00:26:41.279 couldn't do it. I was so impressed. This is the second time. 400 00:26:41.640 --> 00:26:44.640 The first time I did something called Unshakeable, and that was four days. 401 00:26:45.240 --> 00:26:49.519 This was five days, and it's pretty life changing. I'm I'm very determined 402 00:26:49.559 --> 00:26:52.920 to make this happen, and I think I'm the one to do it. 403 00:26:52.599 --> 00:27:00.359 I believe Sam and Cindy that I have interviewed more women than anyone else in 404 00:27:00.480 --> 00:27:04.839 the world. A thousand women have shared their stories with me. I challenge 405 00:27:04.880 --> 00:27:10.960 anyone. I challenge Oprah Winfrey, I challenge Ellen. Honestly, I really 406 00:27:11.079 --> 00:27:15.759 think I've interviewed more women, and I think I know how to talk to 407 00:27:15.920 --> 00:27:19.480 women and how to bring out the best stories in women so they can help 408 00:27:19.640 --> 00:27:23.279 each other. And there in lies the problem for me. And I'm going 409 00:27:23.359 --> 00:27:26.440 to be straight with you, yes, okay, because you know me, 410 00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:30.000 I don't mince words. For women to stick together, for women to have 411 00:27:30.119 --> 00:27:33.839 each other's backs, that's going to take a lot of movement. That's not 412 00:27:34.000 --> 00:27:40.920 happening tomorrow. It's not happening overnight because women are still jealous and they're still 413 00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:45.400 insecure, and they're every husband that's cheating out the cheating with somebody with the 414 00:27:45.519 --> 00:27:49.680 other woman. Right, Men have a tendency to be more loyal to each 415 00:27:49.720 --> 00:27:53.000 other. Now, maybe they don't get caught up and they don't get caddy. 416 00:27:53.519 --> 00:27:56.440 They're you know, they go out, they play golf together, they 417 00:27:56.480 --> 00:28:00.319 play basketball together. Put four women on golf of course together, and they're 418 00:28:00.319 --> 00:28:03.519 gonna say, oh, you see what Candy's wearing. She looks really stupid 419 00:28:03.519 --> 00:28:07.079 in that dress. And maybe she cover up her kneecaps, like, man 420 00:28:07.160 --> 00:28:10.680 don't talk that way. So maybe you might want to teach women how to 421 00:28:10.839 --> 00:28:15.240 behave how to act, and maybe maybe that's part of the speaker coach training. 422 00:28:15.400 --> 00:28:18.799 They will have a better But you know, I will say that friends. 423 00:28:19.240 --> 00:28:22.559 I how many female good friends you have? Candy? Oh, I 424 00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:26.359 could count them all on one hand. Okay, there you go, and 425 00:28:26.519 --> 00:28:29.839 so can I. And and by the way, I could lose a couple 426 00:28:29.920 --> 00:28:33.279 fingers okay, because they don't even make the finger, never mind the thumb. 427 00:28:33.359 --> 00:28:36.599 All right, So there you go. That's something. Yeah, I 428 00:28:36.640 --> 00:28:40.119 mean, and that's huge. That's huge. Although I don't know that a 429 00:28:40.200 --> 00:28:45.160 successful women are alone in their own heads all the time. And I talk 430 00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:48.799 from experience. I'm alone in my head a lot and you were too, 431 00:28:49.039 --> 00:28:52.799 me too. I still okay, I still am. So remember that when 432 00:28:52.839 --> 00:28:56.799 you're doing this right, I will. But here's where I will deviate from 433 00:28:56.839 --> 00:29:00.680 where you're going, which is I don't know that that's my job. I 434 00:29:00.839 --> 00:29:07.640 think my job is to tell the stories and to inspire the woman who's sitting 435 00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:10.920 there in that audience, who is going to take the next woman by the 436 00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:14.000 hand. Okay, because she's there. My job to get behind you and 437 00:29:14.119 --> 00:29:17.799 have the big melt and say and listen, Okay, you want to be 438 00:29:17.920 --> 00:29:21.519 successful and you want all this, here's we got to start with your sell 439 00:29:21.640 --> 00:29:23.920 first. I can turn around and go and don't screw around, Cindy Stump. 440 00:29:25.240 --> 00:29:27.720 Let me tell your people. Could be a good peer, a good 441 00:29:27.759 --> 00:29:30.440 frack so. But no, those are the things you know, like, 442 00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:34.440 we want to see women succeed. We want to see women. You look 443 00:29:34.480 --> 00:29:37.720 and you've been the biggest fan out there, so I kuddles to you. 444 00:29:38.319 --> 00:29:44.880 But they have to learn how to be a friend. Right, yep, 445 00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:47.960 you don't have a problem with somebody succeeding over you. I don't have a 446 00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:51.119 problem. I want her to blow up. Be bigger than me all day. 447 00:29:51.480 --> 00:29:53.759 I have much more, do it better, do it bigger. I 448 00:29:53.839 --> 00:29:56.160 know, I gotta go to break. Okay, I'm going to break. 449 00:29:56.400 --> 00:30:00.319 I'm sidy stuff. Oh you listen to have his Nails on WBZ News Radio 450 00:30:00.400 --> 00:30:03.799 ten thirty will be read best sponsored by new Brook Realty Group, Boston, 451 00:30:03.839 --> 00:30:08.640 would Smaller Insurance World Auto Body and Tasca Drive Auto Body. Now that we 452 00:30:10.079 --> 00:30:18.960 arrest, thank you so long and uh okay, wait to you. We 453 00:30:19.200 --> 00:30:23.559 welcome back to Toughest Nails On WBC News Radio ten thirty eight. This is 454 00:30:23.599 --> 00:30:26.599 Cindy Stumpo and I'm here with Maantha. What do you do? By the 455 00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:32.559 way, listen to you. Do you work? Yes? Full time? 456 00:30:32.559 --> 00:30:34.200 Would you oin a company? I do? What's it called? New Brook 457 00:30:34.240 --> 00:30:38.119 Realty Group? Okay, very good, and we're here with hi. I'm 458 00:30:38.200 --> 00:30:42.400 Candy. Oh why am I my ears a goal like this and my we 459 00:30:42.519 --> 00:30:45.839 can't hear that. Only you can? Okay, good, all right? 460 00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:48.720 I was getting staticy okay, go ahead, Katy, Hey, I was 461 00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:52.480 going to tell you a funny story. Can I tell you funny story Mariah 462 00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:56.759 Carey? I want to talk about what it was like to interview Mariah Carey. 463 00:30:56.839 --> 00:31:00.440 So here we go. So she was coming to Boston and she had 464 00:31:00.559 --> 00:31:04.839 just had a very bad flop with the movie Glitter. Oh my god, 465 00:31:04.920 --> 00:31:11.680 I remember that movie Okay, And she was just releasing her fifteenth song that 466 00:31:11.799 --> 00:31:15.960 had just gone to number one, And I thought, how can I be 467 00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:22.920 memorable with Mariah Carey? So I went to Winston's and I asked for sixteen 468 00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:27.640 long stem white roses, one for good luck, fifteen for all of her 469 00:31:27.720 --> 00:31:30.880 number one songs, and one for good Luck. And I had them to 470 00:31:32.039 --> 00:31:36.160 Mamma Bottom give me a big box with the biggest diva bo that they could 471 00:31:36.240 --> 00:31:40.640 possibly find on this box. And I show up at the Four Seasons with 472 00:31:40.839 --> 00:31:45.680 my box of roses, and Everybody's coming over to me. Mattie's coming over 473 00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:49.000 to me, Billy's coming over to me, Pebbles is there. Everyone All 474 00:31:49.079 --> 00:31:51.799 the morning people are there and they're like, Hey, what do you got 475 00:31:51.839 --> 00:31:55.200 in the box? And I was like, get your hands off my box. 476 00:31:56.359 --> 00:31:59.920 Finally it's time for me to go upstairs to the penthouse to interview Maria. 477 00:32:00.519 --> 00:32:02.279 By the way, she took a nap, so everyone's like running four 478 00:32:02.359 --> 00:32:08.240 hours behind. Okay, So her bodyguard is as big as this studio we're 479 00:32:08.279 --> 00:32:10.799 standing in, I mean, and his hands were like these big mits. 480 00:32:10.839 --> 00:32:15.720 And my producer and I walk in and she's standing there and I hander my 481 00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:22.279 roses, and my producer smart guy, starts rolling very quickly, rolling tape, 482 00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:25.319 very very quickly. She's taking the roses out one by one, putting 483 00:32:25.359 --> 00:32:30.799 them in this gigantic vase. And as she's doing that, I start asking 484 00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:35.400 her questions. And because she loves the roses, and because she's fully rested 485 00:32:35.440 --> 00:32:38.319 and feeling good in her penthouse. Sweet I got the most in depth interview 486 00:32:38.519 --> 00:32:43.799 with Mariah Carey that she'd ever given to anybody, talking all about how her 487 00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:46.559 dogs were poisoned when she was a little girl, the names that she was 488 00:32:46.640 --> 00:32:51.039 called, her purple journal, that had all of her number one songs in 489 00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:53.359 it, sweeping hair off the floor in a beauty salon, you name it. 490 00:32:53.880 --> 00:32:59.440 I got that interview and it's one of my very favorite ones. And 491 00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:05.759 the punchline of the story is talk about being memorable. Right when we were 492 00:33:05.839 --> 00:33:10.079 done with that interview. Every single time Mariah Carey came to Boston, she 493 00:33:10.200 --> 00:33:15.559 would tell her record label, have the rose Lady from Boston introduce me. 494 00:33:16.160 --> 00:33:21.720 I introduced her on every stage here in Boston, and she didn't really remember 495 00:33:21.839 --> 00:33:27.599 my name. She just called me the Rocks. And every time she opened 496 00:33:27.720 --> 00:33:30.960 up you and you, I was the one on the stage no matter where 497 00:33:30.039 --> 00:33:32.480 she went. Is that crazy? That great? Yeah? That's I like 498 00:33:32.559 --> 00:33:36.160 this. I thought you'd like that story, and I told it just because 499 00:33:36.160 --> 00:33:37.279 I thought you would. And what are the good stories you have for us? 500 00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:42.160 Oh? I have a recent story that I will tell you. I 501 00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:46.559 have a podcast series which is called Country Music Success Stories, and we've done 502 00:33:46.599 --> 00:33:51.480 three seasons. My co host and I she grew up in Chelmsford, singer 503 00:33:51.559 --> 00:33:54.799 songwriter, and she lives in Nashville. And she said to me, Hey, 504 00:33:55.000 --> 00:34:00.000 why don't we do a series in Nashville. I know so many people, 505 00:34:00.799 --> 00:34:06.920 and our goal was to interview people in their favorite spot. Okay, 506 00:34:07.079 --> 00:34:14.119 so maybe it's Garth Brooks and Trisha Yearwood together at their fire pit. Maybe 507 00:34:14.400 --> 00:34:19.000 it's Naomi Jud in her barn. So I'll tell you the story of Naomi 508 00:34:19.119 --> 00:34:22.960 Jud we get there. She lives in a town called Leaper's Fork, which 509 00:34:23.320 --> 00:34:31.320 is idyllic picture horses grazing, white rail, open fences, country roads. 510 00:34:31.960 --> 00:34:37.800 She owns five hundred acres. She and her husband who used to sing back 511 00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:43.599 up for Elvis Presley, Larry Strickland Wainona lives there. Ashley lives there, 512 00:34:43.679 --> 00:34:47.119 but they're miles apart because it's five hundred acres, right, And she was 513 00:34:47.320 --> 00:34:52.119 seventy four years old when she allowed me to interview her. Her barn has 514 00:34:52.159 --> 00:34:58.679 a recording studio in it. You walk through an entire room like the one 515 00:34:58.719 --> 00:35:01.079 we're in, which is phil from top to bottom with sparkles, like it's 516 00:35:01.199 --> 00:35:06.920 all spangles and sparkles. It's all her, you know, her costumes from 517 00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:10.679 being on the stage. And she was shaking when she walked in the room. 518 00:35:10.760 --> 00:35:14.599 She had a little baseball cap on. She's very small, and her 519 00:35:14.760 --> 00:35:17.079 whole body was shaking. And I thought, oh my god, you know, 520 00:35:17.199 --> 00:35:20.800 what's this going to be like? Right? And I knew that she 521 00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:28.039 suffered from mental illness. And we sat down and she poured her heart out 522 00:35:28.079 --> 00:35:31.599 to me in this interview, including what it was like to live in this 523 00:35:31.960 --> 00:35:38.159 cabin on a mountain, stinkin mountaintop in Kentucky. She told me the story 524 00:35:38.159 --> 00:35:43.599 about how she was raped by a boyfriend who was a heroin addict, ran 525 00:35:43.840 --> 00:35:49.119 out of the out of the la apartment, blood everywhere, one way ticket 526 00:35:49.199 --> 00:35:52.000 back to Kentucky from her father, ends up on a mountaintop, puts herself 527 00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:59.119 through nursing school. The little cassette that had she and Winona singing one song 528 00:35:59.320 --> 00:36:05.000 on it that she as after she became a nurse, handed to the father 529 00:36:05.320 --> 00:36:08.599 of a girl who she was taken care of in the ICU, and she 530 00:36:08.719 --> 00:36:12.719 said, sir, I know you're very busy, can you take a listen 531 00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:16.800 to this tape of my daughter Winona and I singing. And he left that 532 00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:22.559 in his cassette deck for days and days and days, and one day he 533 00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:27.239 just pressed play and the rest is history. He called her in. They 534 00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:30.199 went to RCAA Records. She went into a bathroom and got high. She 535 00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:35.440 was so terrified. She went into a bathroom and got high, came out. 536 00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:38.840 She and Winona played that song live, did it in two part harmony, 537 00:36:38.920 --> 00:36:44.360 and she got a seven record deal from RCAA Records. And that's how 538 00:36:44.440 --> 00:36:47.000 that happened. Isn't that crazy? And she passed away from she did she 539 00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:55.119 killed herself depressed and she had tried five times. Last known full length interview 540 00:36:55.280 --> 00:36:59.559 with her, and I say, you've had some other great ones, Candy, 541 00:36:59.639 --> 00:37:01.679 come on, you know don Stevie Nick. She had to be cool 542 00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:07.760 too. M Enix said to me, I don't regret the cocaine. I 543 00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:14.559 only regret the klonopin because it took away my creativity. Yeah. She also 544 00:37:14.719 --> 00:37:17.599 told me, I wish I could put you in my pocket and bring you 545 00:37:17.800 --> 00:37:24.880 to Candlestick Park in San Francisco for some of those big seventies concerts where it 546 00:37:25.039 --> 00:37:30.599 was one hundred thousand people as far as the eye could see. And I 547 00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:32.239 thought, oh, I wish I could have. I wish you could put 548 00:37:32.280 --> 00:37:37.320 me in your pocket. Right, crazy InCred to Bonnie Rait. Bonnie Rait 549 00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:45.199 was the nastiest creature I have ever interviewed in my life. Creature. She 550 00:37:45.360 --> 00:37:47.920 made me cry. She made me cry. She was so nasty through the 551 00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:52.639 entire interview. By the time, she was just everything was just I'm asking 552 00:37:52.719 --> 00:37:57.719 her deep questions, right and by the way, I even told her the 553 00:37:57.800 --> 00:38:01.599 story about how I snuck out of my my bedroom as a little girl of 554 00:38:01.679 --> 00:38:06.719 well, you know, teenager living in Hartford outside of Hartford, Connecticut to 555 00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:12.880 go and see her at Bushnell Park. Oh really, okay, I mean 556 00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:15.599 I got grounded for a week. It's got to mean something, right, 557 00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:17.320 Like you were my favorite? You know, she couldn't have cared less. 558 00:38:17.480 --> 00:38:22.960 Okay. The big mistake artists make when they're jerks in an interview is they 559 00:38:22.039 --> 00:38:27.119 have to remember the person who's interviewing them is going to be playing their song 560 00:38:27.480 --> 00:38:30.320 later that day. So if you think I have anything nice to say coming 561 00:38:30.360 --> 00:38:36.119 out of something to talk about, you're crazy. I love it. I 562 00:38:36.239 --> 00:38:40.559 love it. Okay. Sally Ride, Oh my god, Sally Ride. 563 00:38:40.639 --> 00:38:45.519 So Sally Ride was an interview that Gay Vernon had, but I know the 564 00:38:45.599 --> 00:38:49.280 answer. I know exactly how this went because I was in the room, 565 00:38:49.440 --> 00:38:53.599 but Gay was the person doing the interview, and Sally Ride told the story, 566 00:38:53.880 --> 00:38:59.960 you guys, of what it was like to be seated in the challenge 567 00:39:00.039 --> 00:39:06.800 her when the rocket boosters go off and you are a trained astronaut. I 568 00:39:06.880 --> 00:39:09.119 mean, she's a brilliant, brilliant woman. God bless her. She's dead 569 00:39:09.199 --> 00:39:15.199 now. But anyway, she said, when those rocket boosters ignite, it's 570 00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:21.039 an out of body experience. The sound is so loud and you are shut 571 00:39:21.320 --> 00:39:24.800 up into space in like seconds, and then before you know it, you're 572 00:39:24.880 --> 00:39:30.719 looking out the window and the Earth is so far away from you. I'd 573 00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:37.599 be freaked out. There's an anxiety attack right there. That's not even to 574 00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:42.199 happen. But it's cretible. Incredible stories. Incredible stories, right, Incredible 575 00:39:42.239 --> 00:39:45.280 stories. And you've done first ladies. You've had a big career, that 576 00:39:45.400 --> 00:39:51.079 Candy. It's really been amazing, it really has. And what I've learned 577 00:39:51.960 --> 00:39:58.039 is you just need to treat this person, no matter who they are, 578 00:39:58.079 --> 00:40:02.360 whether they're famous or a backyard hero, with the same amount of respect and 579 00:40:02.519 --> 00:40:08.119 love, woman to woman. The saddest interview I've ever done is with Maggie 580 00:40:08.159 --> 00:40:13.039 Bish, the mother of Molly Bish. Okay, we got to go to 581 00:40:13.119 --> 00:40:15.960 break on that one and might not be able to finish that story. I'm 582 00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:27.559 Sidney Stumble and Top of Nails on w BZ News Radio ten thirty. Boy, 583 00:40:30.800 --> 00:40:37.199 things are going to get easy. Yeah, welcome back to Toughest Nails 584 00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:40.079 on WBZ News Radio ten thirty. And I'm Cindy Stumpo and this is my 585 00:40:40.280 --> 00:40:45.519 daughter Amantha Stump Thank you, and this is my friend Candyo. Hey, 586 00:40:45.159 --> 00:40:47.679 it's been such a pleasure to be on your show. I was talking about 587 00:40:49.440 --> 00:40:52.320 when we went to break, I was talking about the beautiful Maggie Bish. 588 00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:55.400 She was the mother of, or is the mother of Molly Bish who was 589 00:40:55.480 --> 00:41:00.400 abducted and murdered. And the what I want to say is what I've learned 590 00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:05.800 about women everywhere is that they have so much love. And even though this 591 00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:09.639 woman had experienced the worst loss a mother could ever experience, she was so 592 00:41:09.960 --> 00:41:15.280 kind, so gentle, so caring, and so willing to do what she 593 00:41:15.440 --> 00:41:19.760 could for children everywhere. Okay, it was a pleasure having you ways, 594 00:41:19.760 --> 00:41:22.800 it's a pleasure, my dear everybody. This is Cindy Stumpo Tough as Nails 595 00:41:22.840 --> 00:41:27.440 on WBZ News Radio ten thirty. Have a great, safe weekend, and 596 00:41:27.559 --> 00:41:28.480 we'll see you next week.