Let's say good morning to the author of a new thriller called Still See You
Everywhere. Good morning, Lisa Gardner, Good morning Amy. Thank you for
having me on the show. Well, I'm super excited to talk to you,
because when we got word that you were available, I said, oh,
well, I want to read the book before I talked to her.
And I'll tell you that I sat down to start reading it and thought,
I don't know if I'm going to get through the whole thing, but I'll
at least have a good, solid back, you know, foundation for it.
I read the whole book in six hours. Obviously a page that's what
I love to hear. Yeah, thank you, Yeah, and I'd go,
oh, well, I'll put it down and I'll go do this.
I'm like, oh no, just one more chapter, just one more chapter,
so exactly. And I think, Lisa, the book like hooks you
right from the prologue where you hear about the main or a central character's horrific
life of abuse and then how it turns into murders. So give us a
little something to introduce us to the world of Still I'll See You Everywhere.
So Still See You Everywhere features Frankie Elkin, who is an expert on working
missing persons cold cases, so she does it totally on her own. She
has no special background, no training, but this is a weird case.
She gets summoned to death row, where a convicted female serial killer wants her
to find her baby sister, who was presumably kidnapped fifteen years ago. But
she just got a note claiming the girl's still alive. And Frankie's not worked
for serial killer before, let alone one who is so clearly unrepentant. Like
you said, Kaylene Pearson, grew up in a world where you either predator
or prey. She's pretty happy to be the predator. Yeah, And like
I said, it kind of it hooks you from the beginning because you get
interested in Frankie in her life as she starts to look for this baby's sister
and of course the murderous who is an unrepented killer or unrepentant killer, And
it leads us to a tropical paradise on an island, an atoll not far
from the main Hawaiian islands. But there are dangerous and sinister things lurking on
the island too. Yes, I had the opportunity a couple of years ago
to go to the Palmyra Atoll, which you fly to Honolulu and it's another
three hours by plane, so you're way off the grid. You know.
Medical evac is like three to five days away to that would take a ship.
And when you land there one it's paradise. It's palm trees and beautiful
sandy beaches with no one on them because it's nothing but a twelve person research
station. And there's crabs and coconut crabs, which are terrifying, and twelve
really they're strangers, they're experts that are subbing in and out. And just
my first thought, you know, a lifelong Agatha Christie reader, is this
is the perfect locked room mystery. No one gets on, no one gets
off, and one of these people has done something terrible. Okay, so
then yeah, tell me, Lisa, you went to this atell just to
check it out or did you already know you had an idea for your book
in mind? Actually I went there for personal reasons to learn about the reclamation
of coral reefs, and they're doing amazing work for the record, and then
just the psychology of it. I mean, you know you're going to be
remote, but to be that remote like they preferred. If you don't have
an appendix. You think it'll be beautiful, but it's also eighty five percent
humidity all the time. The cheats are wet, the towels are wet.
The researchers who work there, their skin actually grows fungus oh that they have
to treat. And you talk about that in the book too. Yeah,
the discomfort starts to get to you. You start to see the edginess.
I kind of was laughing at one point halfway through this. I'm like,
this is like the shining As summer camp. Yeah, that's where we are
and the perfect setting for a murder mystery suspense thriller. And this book is
all of that wrapped up into one. And tell me you mentioned coconut crabs
and they play kind of a central part in the book, which is kind
of weird. Like you said, you go on this atoll and there are
these crabs everywhere, and some of them are coconut crabs, which are massively
huge. They're not the cute little ones that scurry across the beach. No.
I had a cute little one as my roommate, and I try to
keep them safe every night because the coconut crabs will eat them. Yeah,
I didn't know anything about this. So the apple has no fresh water.
So the entire basically animal kingdoms. Crabs and the coconut crabs are the apex
predator. They are bigger than my dogs, oh my god, and a
terrier and they come out at night and they're like the Sherman Tank of crabs.
They're on a pathway. You do not go on that pathway. You
find some other way to get to wherever you're going. And they're hunting the
other crabs. And it's funny because I'm a thriller writer and I'll kill all
the people you want. But I'd come creeping back to my little cabin.
Tell my little roommate crabby. It's like, don't go out too dangerous,
just stay safe for the night. Yeah. Oh so yeah, And like
I said, there were those weird little things that you don't know about,
and little twists and turns and big twists and turns, and I will tell
you I was surprised more than a few times reading the book. So it's
called Still See You Everywhere, And where can we get it? I'm assuming
everywhere. It's available everywhere. Books are sold in the audio is available as
well. A fabulous narrator, Hillary Hubo. Okay, Lisa Gardner, thank
you so much for your time. If you haven't read it, if I
highly recommend it. Like I said, I read the whole thing in six
hours. Thanks so much, Lisa. Oh, thank you so much.
Thank you. Amy all right