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Let's say good morning to the author
of a new thriller called Still See You

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Everywhere. Good morning, Lisa Gardner, Good morning Amy. Thank you for

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having me on the show. Well, I'm super excited to talk to you,

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because when we got word that you
were available, I said, oh,

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well, I want to read the
book before I talked to her.

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And I'll tell you that I sat
down to start reading it and thought,

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I don't know if I'm going to
get through the whole thing, but I'll

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at least have a good, solid
back, you know, foundation for it.

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I read the whole book in six
hours. Obviously a page that's what

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I love to hear. Yeah,
thank you, Yeah, and I'd go,

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oh, well, I'll put it
down and I'll go do this.

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I'm like, oh no, just
one more chapter, just one more chapter,

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so exactly. And I think,
Lisa, the book like hooks you

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right from the prologue where you hear
about the main or a central character's horrific

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life of abuse and then how it
turns into murders. So give us a

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little something to introduce us to the
world of Still I'll See You Everywhere.

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So Still See You Everywhere features Frankie
Elkin, who is an expert on working

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missing persons cold cases, so she
does it totally on her own. She

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has no special background, no training, but this is a weird case.

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She gets summoned to death row,
where a convicted female serial killer wants her

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to find her baby sister, who
was presumably kidnapped fifteen years ago. But

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she just got a note claiming the
girl's still alive. And Frankie's not worked

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for serial killer before, let alone
one who is so clearly unrepentant. Like

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you said, Kaylene Pearson, grew
up in a world where you either predator

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or prey. She's pretty happy to
be the predator. Yeah, And like

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I said, it kind of it
hooks you from the beginning because you get

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interested in Frankie in her life as
she starts to look for this baby's sister

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and of course the murderous who is
an unrepented killer or unrepentant killer, And

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it leads us to a tropical paradise
on an island, an atoll not far

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from the main Hawaiian islands. But
there are dangerous and sinister things lurking on

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the island too. Yes, I
had the opportunity a couple of years ago

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to go to the Palmyra Atoll,
which you fly to Honolulu and it's another

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three hours by plane, so you're
way off the grid. You know.

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Medical evac is like three to five
days away to that would take a ship.

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And when you land there one it's
paradise. It's palm trees and beautiful

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sandy beaches with no one on them
because it's nothing but a twelve person research

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station. And there's crabs and coconut
crabs, which are terrifying, and twelve

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really they're strangers, they're experts that
are subbing in and out. And just

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my first thought, you know,
a lifelong Agatha Christie reader, is this

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is the perfect locked room mystery.
No one gets on, no one gets

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off, and one of these people
has done something terrible. Okay, so

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then yeah, tell me, Lisa, you went to this atell just to

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check it out or did you already
know you had an idea for your book

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in mind? Actually I went there
for personal reasons to learn about the reclamation

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of coral reefs, and they're doing
amazing work for the record, and then

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just the psychology of it. I
mean, you know you're going to be

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remote, but to be that remote
like they preferred. If you don't have

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an appendix. You think it'll be
beautiful, but it's also eighty five percent

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humidity all the time. The cheats
are wet, the towels are wet.

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The researchers who work there, their
skin actually grows fungus oh that they have

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to treat. And you talk about
that in the book too. Yeah,

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the discomfort starts to get to you. You start to see the edginess.

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I kind of was laughing at one
point halfway through this. I'm like,

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this is like the shining As summer
camp. Yeah, that's where we are

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and the perfect setting for a murder
mystery suspense thriller. And this book is

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all of that wrapped up into one. And tell me you mentioned coconut crabs

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and they play kind of a central
part in the book, which is kind

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of weird. Like you said,
you go on this atoll and there are

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these crabs everywhere, and some of
them are coconut crabs, which are massively

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huge. They're not the cute little
ones that scurry across the beach. No.

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I had a cute little one as
my roommate, and I try to

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keep them safe every night because the
coconut crabs will eat them. Yeah,

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I didn't know anything about this.
So the apple has no fresh water.

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So the entire basically animal kingdoms.
Crabs and the coconut crabs are the apex

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predator. They are bigger than my
dogs, oh my god, and a

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terrier and they come out at night
and they're like the Sherman Tank of crabs.

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They're on a pathway. You do
not go on that pathway. You

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find some other way to get to
wherever you're going. And they're hunting the

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other crabs. And it's funny because
I'm a thriller writer and I'll kill all

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the people you want. But I'd
come creeping back to my little cabin.

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Tell my little roommate crabby. It's
like, don't go out too dangerous,

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just stay safe for the night.
Yeah. Oh so yeah, And like

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I said, there were those weird
little things that you don't know about,

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and little twists and turns and big
twists and turns, and I will tell

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you I was surprised more than a
few times reading the book. So it's

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called Still See You Everywhere, And
where can we get it? I'm assuming

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everywhere. It's available everywhere. Books
are sold in the audio is available as

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well. A fabulous narrator, Hillary
Hubo. Okay, Lisa Gardner, thank

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you so much for your time.
If you haven't read it, if I

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highly recommend it. Like I said, I read the whole thing in six

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hours. Thanks so much, Lisa. Oh, thank you so much.

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Thank you. Amy all right