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This is Gary and Shannon and you're
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the iHeartRadio app. She's got the key

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to the office, so that makes
her qualify. I don't know, I

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don't know. The director of the
Secret Service, Kimberly Cheatle, said that

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she's what, I'm the best person
to lead the Secret Service. She says

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she's the best person to lead the
Secret Service. Okay, well, I

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mean insert you had one job memes
here well. As Kimberly Cheatle is being

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questioned on Capitol Hill today, there's
a lot going on. More and more

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people now coming out, politicians coming
out to endorse Kamala Harris at the top

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of the Democratic ticket. Nancy Pelosi
was the latest to do so earlier today,

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and then a lot of questions will
surround who is Kamala Harris going to

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choose as a vice presidential running mate
going forward. Joining us talk more about

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this is Julia Manchester from the Hill
wrote an article today helped out with an

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article about what we can look for
potentially when it comes to vice presidential picks.

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Julia, thanks for taking time for
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having me So where do we even
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seen lists that are four names long. I've seen lists that are ten names

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long. Where what is the realistic
number for a short list when we have

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such a truncated plan for the Democratic
Party. Yeah, you know, to

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be honest, we don't know exactly
how many people are being considered right now,

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considering Vice President Harris is still very
quickly consolidating all of her support among

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Democrats. You know, it seems
that most of the conversation in Washington and

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among Democrats is centering around a number
of Democratic governors from swing states or red

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leaning states, including Pennsylvania Governor Joshapiro, Kentucky Governor Andy Bashier, North Carolina

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Governor North Carolina Governor Roy Cooper.
Now a Senator Mark Kelly from Arizona has

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also been floated. That would be
a bit of a political risk for Democrats

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though, as should Mark Kelly take
that post and then you know, in

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the case he's elected Vice president,
that would leave an open setting Senate see

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in Arizona, which could open up
Democrats to the possibility of losing that seat.

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So there's a lot of political calculations
to look out here for here,

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But it seems like for the most
part, we're seeing mostly you know,

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white male governors or senators from swing
states, So that actually raises a question.

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Would the what would be the primary
reason you mentioned the political machinations?

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If Mark Kelly gets pulled out of
his Senate seat to become a vice president,

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would they simply do it on a
political basis because they're not going to

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have to deal with uh rounding out
the ticket to fill certain ethnic or gender

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roles. She's got that locked down. I mean, what would be the

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number one criteria. Well, I
don't know if that's necessarily true, though,

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like I said, you know,
to appeal to certain ethnic or gender

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roles. There's a reason why I
think white men are being considered for this

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role, someone like a Joshapiro or
Andy Basheer or Roy Cooper or even Mark

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Kelly, because you have this woman
of color on the ticket, and you

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know, there's this, I guess
the strategy that Democrats are talking about of

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wanting to balance out that ticket,
maybe have someone that's less liberal than Harris,

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someone that is white, someone that
you know has a proven record of

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quite frankly appealing to you know,
working class voters. That are predominantly white

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in some of these key swing states. Remember the Biden and Harris campaign need

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to win or the Harris campaign now
excuse me, needs to win Wisconsin,

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Pennsylvania, and Michigan. Those are
the three he states that are integral to

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their path to victory. And we're
seeing with the Trump campaign selection of jd.

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Vance, they're targeting that white working
class vote. So, you know,

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the Democratic coalition, even though with
Harris they you know, are certainly

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targeting the black vote, which is
so important to that coalition, and the

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you know, parts of the female
vote, there are still other parts of

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that coalition that are up for grabs. And I would say the white working

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class vote is something that Donald Trump
has been able to sort of take away

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from Democrats in recent years, and
Democrats are going to try to fight to

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get that back. And that's why
I keep going back to Josh Shapiro.

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Out of the key swing state of
Pennsylvania, there is a county in question

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that he could really make a difference
for. And the Democrats, I think

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their number one goal right now is
to keep the House, keep control of

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the House. I don't think that
they believe that she is going to be

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victorious against Donald. I mean,
who knows, it's still early, but

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I think that they're playing for the
House at this point. Yeah. No,

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And as we're speaking right now,
House Minority Leader Hakim Jeffries is speaking,

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you know, on Capitol Hill,
talking about Biden's record. I don't

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believe he has endorsed Harris yet,
but yeah, that's very important right now.

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I mean, Republicans are for for
a while, Democrats were on track

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to maintain the House or maintain their
or you know, potentially get to get

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a majority in the House. Republicans
on track to get a majority in the

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Senate. But we see that the
situation at the top of the ticket with

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President Biden and to an extent,
with President Trump and the assassination against him,

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these two major political events have sort
of scrambled the calculus going forward to

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a lot for a lot of these
down valot races. Since we are in

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California, we have a vested interest
in figuring out what Gavin Usom's going to

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do for the next four years.
He has said he doesn't want to run

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as a vice president. He's not
going to challenge Kamala Harris for the top

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of the ticket. What kind of
a role does somebody like that or a

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Gretchen Whitmer or somebody what role will
they play in the next couple of months.

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So, Gretcha Whitmer has said that
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presidential spot. She's staying in Michigan
and she's going to be a co chair

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for the Harris campaign. She was
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as well for Gavin Newsom. I
would imagine that he continues to serve as

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a surrogate for Vice President Harris.
Now, he was one of the most

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effective, most really out there nationally
surrogates for President Biden, so I would

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imagine he would continue to do that. He's waiting in the wings too.

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He's planning twenty twenty eight, that's
for sure. It'll be interesting to see

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what kind of coming out party he
has at the convention, you know,

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where they put him, what night
they put him on, to see how

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serious they take him for the next
election cycle. Yeah, definitely, and

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just the heads up, I have
to run in about a minute or so.

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But yeah, he's certainly on track
for potential twenty twenty eight runs.

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But that's going to depend on if
Harris wins this cycle. If she wins,

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then she goes on to run for
a second term, that'll create some

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Michies for someone like a new sum
Julia, thank you, appreciate it.

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Thank you. Julia Manchester there from
the Hill and you can find her article

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today is who could be Kamala Harris's
running mate? Yeah, that's that.

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I didn't think about that, But
we were talking earlier about how that convention

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in Chicago has to be a show. It has to be something as confusing

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and obfuscating as this process is going
to be between now and then. They

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got to pull it together before then. Yeah, and he, I could,

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he could play a big role in
that. All right, Gary and

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six forty. The strategy, things
like Senator Elizabeth Warren saying, as a

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former prosecutor, Vice President Harris has
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out of respect for our country.
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mash Horse Hockey malarkey? Okay,
Yeah, the big deal this morning has

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been that Nancy Pelosi has endorsed Kamala
Harris as the Democratic nominee. It was.

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It is significant because Nancy Pelosi is
the one who is credit or blamed,

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I guess, depending on which way
you lean. With the behind the

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scenes pressure for Biden to rethink his
candidacy, Pelosi still runs things, and

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she does it very deftly. And
you knew right when she got involved.

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You didn't see her, you didn't
hear her. But as those pieces started

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to fall, when you saw the
people on the January sixth Congressional Committee start

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lining up to call for Biden to
step down, that I was all the

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work of her work in the phones. There were a couple three veteran Democrats

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still have not endorsed Kamala Harris.
She did pick up Senate Majority Whip Dick

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Durbin today, the number two Democrat
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Democratic Whip Catherine Clark Democratic Caucus Chair
Pete Aguilar out of California. The two

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and three numbers two and three House
Democrats Jared Hoffman out of California, told

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The Hill in a brief interview yesterday
that some top Democrats could be withholding their

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endorsements for now to allow for some
sort of process to play out that ends

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with Kamala Harris as the nominee,
rather than having what looks like a coronation

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form her right away. That almost
like, oh, someone like a Barack

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Obama is going to keep his endorsement
until he can vet her himself and then

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make this grand decision. He's not
going to come to any other conclusion,

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you know that. So do you
think he's going to talk about how good

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looking she is? Again? No? No, I don't think you can

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do that at this point. Okay, I think that's probably not a great

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ada. Remember when he said that
about her. Yeah, there is obviously

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on the other side. Right now, Jade Vance, a vice presidential candidate

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on the Republican side, is in
Middletown, Ohio, his hometown and giving

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his first solo campaign event. And
while all of the attention obviously is on

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Democrats and it should be for you
know, twenty four hours now we've been

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talking about Joe Biden stepping down out
of the race endorsing Kamala Harris, there

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is still plenty of support for Donald
Trump and jd Vance. One of the

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places that it's probably lining up in
an unusual way. Is these tech bros,

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the term tech brolagarchs are lining up
to court Trump and Vance has won

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one more link in that chain because
of the time that he spent in Silicon

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Valley as a venture capital. Also, the tech bros, you know what

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they like. They like money,
They like their own money, and they

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want to keep their hands on it. Elon Musk is probably at the top

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of that hill. He has already
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the Trump campaign, though his ongoing
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than that. He had pushed back
on the suggestion that he was making that

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he was going to do forty five
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the picture with the good news and
fake news. But Peter Teal, Peter

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TiAl was one of those guys,
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guess he as a investor was or
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Math, Yeah, twenty sixteen convention, and he was sort of the voice

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in the wilderness. They described that
meeting. It was Peter Teal's hand that

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Trump picked up and stroked, which
is a weird way to write it,

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but yes it is. But that's
what he did. Jd Vance is a

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guy that Peter TiAl kind of molded
into his own image through the investments in

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his political careers. Peter till is
the one who gave jd Vance a job

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at the VC firm Mitheral Capital,
backed him to start his own venture fund,

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An Area Capital, and then later
invested fifteen million from his in his

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successful run for Senate. They said
that this is Vance is Peter Tel's extension

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in a way. Jd Vance was
pulled a one to eighty went from aus

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shucks. The President called me,
isn't this crazy? To calling for Biden

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to get the hell out of office? That's going to be I think one

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of their big pushes actually is to
yes to me. It actually muddies the

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water on the campaign. Let start, let's keep talking. I understand why

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they're doing it. Yeah, I
don't necessarily disagree with it, but the

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job should have, should be,
and should remain. Tell me what you're

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going to do for the country.
Yes, stop bashing on the other guy.

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Tell me what you're going to do
for me. Yeah. Yeah,

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we were wondering about following the money, and it looks like the money

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has fallen in line behind Kamala Harris
Future Forward, the flagship super Pack blessed

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by President Biden, received one hundred
and fifty million in new commitments from major

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Democratic donors in the twenty four hours
since the President said he'd stepped down.

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blown the door. I mean,
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off of anything. Because there was
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the spring that rose records amounts of
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Trump has fundraisers that raise records amounts
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debate where there's records amount of money
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attempt for records amount of money,
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The candidate steps out in the middle
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they raised records amounts of money.
Steve Roberts is the ABC News political analyst

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and Steve Roberts hasn't slept in three
weeks. He joins us now with his

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analysis of what we can expect as
we make our way through the week.

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Steve, Well, Look, that
money is a reflection of a basic fact.

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And if you want to sum it
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You know, the Democrats have been
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the hammer for three weeks, and
when you stop hitting yourself in the head,

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it feels really good. And that's
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And so the money is a symptom
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of it. It's a symptom of
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Look, Kamala Harris is everybody in
California certainly knows, is not necessarily

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the ideal candidate. She ran for
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She never even got to the first
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president were not particularly good. Already, she's being branded a California lefty by

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the Trump administration. But it's a
restarts not eighty one years old. She's

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not doddering up the steps of Air
Force one. She's not disgracing herself in

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a debate where she can't actually make
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we're back in the ballgame. She
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best argument, which was Biden's age. And now we'll see where we go

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from here. But at least the
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which was not true twenty four hours
ago. Yeah, there appears to have

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been pretty strong consolidation within the party
over the course of twenty four hours to

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get behind Kamala Harris. But what
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forward to between now and the beginning
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you're right, the party has coalest
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all, logistically, it's much much
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organization to her as opposed to someone
else. Secondly, I just found it

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inconceivable from the beginning that the party
would pass over a black woman. Black

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women is the single most loyal Democratic
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the last election for that ticket,
and if you passed her over, you

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would cause just new fractures and new
animosities that they last thing in the world

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they needed. And there's no obvious
option. I mean, Kevin Newsom thinks

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he's the obvious option, but the
fact is that it would be scattered if

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it wasn't Harris. There are half
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who would aspire to this, but
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I'm not at all surprised to see
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going to happen is there's going to
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I say that, money is only
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biggest problem Democrats had was the intensity
gap. I saw one poll where seventy

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one percent of Republicans were happy their
nominee and only thirty three percent of Democrats.

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And it's not as if Kamala Harris
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voter, a single red hatted Maga
red hatted Maga loyalist to vote for her.

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and particularly voters of color and particularly
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on the abortion issue. So it's
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about persuasion and about money, and
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I'm actually shocked that the Democrats did
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so good at that. I'm surprised
that they kind of all fell, that

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they all fell in line so quickly
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what seems to be an open convention. Well, I think that, you

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know, first of all, as
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reasons why they fell in love,
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don't necessarily think she's a great candidate, she's better than what they've had.

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a cliff. Swerving is a good
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swerving to, but it's a good
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assets too. She has some real
drawbacks, but she has some assets,

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as people in California know. You
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and an attorney general. You know, a prosecutor running against a convicted felon

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is not a bad lineup when you
when you think about it, she's very

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good at pressing those those legal issues. And the other factor here is the

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abortion issue. It's very striking how
in the Republican convention in Milwaukee the word

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that was never spoken, apart from
Biden, was was abortion? Why?

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Because Donald Trump and that whole party
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and they want to avoid it.
Kambla Harris has a voice on reproductive rights,

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and she can make that case much
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who as a devout Roman Catholic,
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add her gender, you add her
prosecuting skills, and you had her ability

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to say to women, look,
this is not just about abortion. This

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is about a larger concept where Republicans
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woman. Abortion becomes a symbol of
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against the guy who has been convicted
of rape, who has been convicted of

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putting hush money payments out to silence
a a porn star who he had a

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brief fling with, this all adds
up to potential. Got to just say

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that word. We don't know what's
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powerful mixture for Democrats to do a
whole lot better than they might have if

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Biden was still no nominee. And
I listen, I know that this is

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being looked at as sort of a
truncated campaign now, but that's there's still

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three months plus for this to get
really ugly and messy over the next couple

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of in the next one. Sure, look, think about the last three

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weeks. We've already had three three
totally unanticipated and cataclysmic events, the debate,

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the assassination attempt, and Biden's withdrawal. So anybody who sits here in

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July, it says we now know
everything we need to know. It's not

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paying attention. Steve Roberts, thank
you so much, appreciate your time and

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analysis. Sure any talk, thanks
Steve, ABC News political analysts there in

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Washington. It's a great point.
I feel like I want to stop paying

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attention for a little bit. I
do too. Do you want to talk

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about baseball? I was just going
to say baseball. The Olympics are coming

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up. Their football is around the
corner. I could do football. We

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could talk football. I really do
feel I mean, I still have some

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work just days away before I get
to meet Jim Harbaugh. Okay, and

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I'm not ready for that. I
think I've decided on just hello, big

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fan. I don't know. It
just doesn't sound right, you know,

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pairing it down from what it is
it should be. You know. See,

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here's the thing with crazy people.
Crazy. Yes, crazy appreciates crazy,

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you know, right, you hope, you hope. But if you

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don't know you're crazy, then you
can't appreciate crazy. Oh okay. That's

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why I think an initial meeting is
your attempt to determine is he crazy?

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No, I know he's crazy.
Okay, Well I don't. I don't

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think. That's what I'm telling you. You should probably not lead with.

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I don't know if you know this, but I'm trying to diagnose you're crazy

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right now? Yeah? No,
no, no, I think just hello,

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How do you do? How do
you do? Gary and Channer will

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continue in just a moment. You're
listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from

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KFI AM six forty. Where is
Biden. He's in Wilmington, Delaware.

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Okay, I mean, that's what
they It's it's odd we haven't heard from

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him. He's sick. How many
times I have to tell you he's sick,

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he's got the vid It is odd
that we did not hear from Odd

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yesterday. I start to see some
wheels turning in your head, and it

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concerns me. I am I am
officially old. I have entertained so many

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ridiculous scenarios in the past three weeks
that I have reached the old chapter of

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all caps writing. Bring on the
World War two books, all of it?

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Hey, well more two books are
great, exactly, but when did

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you start reading them a couple of
years ago? Yeah. So President Biden

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dropped out of the race yesterday and
endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris to become his

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replacement. A lot of Democrats,
very high profile Democrats, have come out

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and endorsed her for that position.
Donations are also pouring in. The Harris

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campaign said to this morning that they
have given sorry that everyday Americans have given

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forty nine point six million dollars in
grassroots donations. Okay, so the flight

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restrictions the VIP movement, that is
probably because Kamala Harris is going to Delaware

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today this afternoon. She'd be meeting
with she will meet with members of the

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Delaware delegation. She'll go to Biden's
campaign headquarters in Wilmington, which will transition

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to hers as she begins this presidential
campaign. Is she meeting with the president?

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I don't know. How could you
go all the way there and not

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I know with him. It's unclear
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Today is day five of his COVID
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He's expected to address the nation later
this week regarding his decision to bow

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out of the presidential race, and
still no date on that. No,

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and they don't need to. According
to his doctors, they said that the

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symptoms cleared up very quickly. I
mean once he started taking paxlovit. He

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may still have a rough voice from
coughing a lot, but at this point

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you can put a camera in wherever
he is and get an address out.

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That should not be a problem.
No, but he wants to see that.

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I will say this because I found
this an interesting story. President Biden's

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younger brother or young guest brother,
I should say, Frank, oh,

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Frank with the drinking problem. Well. Frank said he believed that Joe Biden

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bowed out of the race because of
health concerns. He made his comments to

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both CBS and ABC News. Now. He said to CBS, in my

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humble opinion, absolutely, the president's
health was part of the decision to announce

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that he wouldn't run for reelection.
Selfishly, I will have him back to

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enjoy whatever time he has left,
or yeah, whatever time we have left.

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He told ABC News. The decision
boils down to Biden's overall health and

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vitality, but also beating this genuine
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Donald Trump. Again, those are
the words of Frank Biden. But a

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Biden family source, somebody else in
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CBS quote what he said is completely
untrue. Frank Biden suffers from alcoholism and

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hasn't spoken to his brother in Reeks. That's so rough. I did not

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know that. First of all.
I think I was today years old when

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I found out he had a younger
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had a brother named James. But
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Joe, and every Irish family,
every single family, there are a couple

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fires. Yesterday was a strong fire
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little bit. So. A pair
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Howard Dan howard En fire, which

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sounds like a doctor now fire,
doesn't it? Yes, that's his last

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name. Similar to that. The
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the Eagle Fire started yesterday near Cahalko
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Cal Fire says about five hundred acres
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five percent contained. I feel like
for three weeks, I look over at

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the clock and it's noon and I'm
like, what where did that come?

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Where did that come from? Except
yesterday when we started just before noon.

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Things are moving very fast in America. A lot of this, a lot

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of this. We'll top trending when
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