1 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:21,120 Hello, Welcome to this Week in the Atlantic Coast Conference podcast for All Sports 2 00:00:21,199 --> 00:00:26,559 Discussion dot Com. This is Jeff and you can follow me on Twitter at 3 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:32,920 Talking ACC Sports. Your moderator for the show is Matthew and you can follow 4 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:38,920 Matthew on Twitter at asd Underscore, Hokey Smash. I'm going to turn over 5 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:43,600 to Matthew now as he introduces our guests and Dan, I'll be sending you 6 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:49,880 the invite to speak. So this is Matthew. Thank you Jeff. This 7 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:54,359 is the podcast for All Sports Discussion dot com. This is the longest running 8 00:00:54,359 --> 00:01:02,640 independent ACC podcast in the United States. We are an episode four hundred and 9 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,840 seventy one today and we have a wonderful return guest on tonight and Dan Carro. 10 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:11,359 He's the owner and operator of Treadmillhorse dot com. You can follow Dan 11 00:01:11,519 --> 00:01:15,879 on Twitter at at treadmill Horse, and it is a blog that is focused 12 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:23,599 on Virginia Tech Athletics. Said, heavily concentrates on men's basketball and football, 13 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:29,079 but you've also seen a lot of covers there on women's women's basketball and baseball. 14 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:30,719 I mean, Dan really covers it all over at his site. But 15 00:01:30,719 --> 00:01:34,200 the heavies, of course are the big revenue sports in Virginia Tech, and 16 00:01:34,239 --> 00:01:38,079 he's also also as a fan of the AEC just like us. Dan, 17 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:42,920 welcome back to the All Sports Discussion a SEC podcast. We're happy to have 18 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,439 you come on as a return guest. You've been here in several capacities over 19 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:51,319 the past. I mean, you've been here as a guest podcast host. 20 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:57,280 You've been here as a panel member. You've been here during college basketball season. 21 00:01:57,359 --> 00:02:00,680 You've been here during college football season for weeks at least like you are 22 00:02:00,719 --> 00:02:04,719 this week. You've been here for preview, for college football previews. You've 23 00:02:04,719 --> 00:02:06,680 done it all for us, and we're happy to have you back. Then, 24 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,719 Welcome back. Yeah, thanks, thank you guys for having me. 25 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:14,000 I'm really excited to be here. I'm really sorry about last week. We 26 00:02:14,039 --> 00:02:17,199 had some technical difficulties which had me get pushed a week, so I apologize 27 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,719 for that. But yeah, just excited to be on the show again. 28 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,639 That happens, Yeah, it happens to the best of us. So here 29 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:32,159 we are. Man, we are reviewing Week four. Which acc ACC team 30 00:02:32,199 --> 00:02:38,599 do you think was the most disappointing team in Week four? Dan, the 31 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:43,000 floor is years, Yes, I think it was Clemson. They had a 32 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:47,159 big opportunity to bounce back after their loss to Duke in Week one and get 33 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:52,240 themselves back into the college football playoff discussion, but they couldn't get it done. 34 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,719 They got close, and last week I thought they had a really good 35 00:02:55,719 --> 00:03:01,000 opportunity, like playing at home to upset Florida State. Yeah, but it 36 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:05,360 was just they just weren't getting able to get over the hump. And like, 37 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:07,919 if they were able to get that win over Florida State, I think 38 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:13,360 it would have got them back into the college football playoff discussion because it would 39 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:19,599 have been a huge win over a top five ranked team. Just weren't able 40 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,319 to get it done. So I think that was disappointing because they were definitely 41 00:03:22,319 --> 00:03:25,680 the team with the biggest opportunity this week. So there are lots of candidates, 42 00:03:25,759 --> 00:03:30,120 Dan for most impressive team. You can talk about more than one if 43 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:34,759 you want, But who do you think was the most impressive acc team of 44 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,240 Week four? And again, you can say as as many as you want 45 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:43,400 here, because we think there were probably a lot of really good performances And 46 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,879 so for me, it's I gotta go with Florida State just because it's the 47 00:03:45,919 --> 00:03:52,520 most impactful nationally so basically they solidified their position going into like the College Football 48 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:58,000 Playoff discussion, and from here on out it seems like there their schedule generally 49 00:03:58,039 --> 00:04:01,080 is pretty manageable. This was the one that you'd really look on the schedule. 50 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,639 They have to go to Clemson and get a win that that looked like, 51 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:10,080 on paper, the most difficult game. So getting over the hump here 52 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,759 is definitely a big step forward for them, and I see them having a 53 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,680 really good chance to win the conference and go to the College Football Playoff. 54 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,920 Aside from that, there's there was a lot of really good performances this week, 55 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:26,519 like Miami having a dominant win over Temple. I thought they looked really 56 00:04:26,519 --> 00:04:30,759 good there, and for once and in the last couple of years, Miami 57 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,600 looks like they're they're actually back. They're playing well, the offense is looking 58 00:04:34,639 --> 00:04:42,199 good. So I think Miami's win was really impressive. Georgia Tech being able 59 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,720 to pull out a win like especially being able to pull out a win on 60 00:04:45,759 --> 00:04:48,120 the road, I think they looked really good. Like wait Forrest came into 61 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:53,079 that game three and oh, I know it's a bit of a questionable three 62 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:57,160 and Ozho just because like they had that really close win against so do you 63 00:04:58,319 --> 00:05:00,319 but Georgia Tech being able to take a business on the road. I thought 64 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:06,600 they looked really good there. And then obviously North Carolina again like another ACC 65 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:11,120 ranked team, they want to show that they're deserving of that ranking. They 66 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:15,959 want to stay ranked. And you got Pittsburgh who has got some offensive struggles 67 00:05:15,959 --> 00:05:19,240 at this point, but being able to go on the road again and prove 68 00:05:19,319 --> 00:05:24,839 that ranking. I thought they had a good week to all good responses. 69 00:05:24,879 --> 00:05:29,160 I'm just gonna add one thing here. Louisville's four and oh right now, 70 00:05:30,399 --> 00:05:33,120 and they looked I mean, BC isn't that great of a team. Obviously 71 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:39,240 they got some major challenges, major talent challenges, but it's pretty terrific that 72 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,360 a new coach is walking in their four and oh in Louisville, right. 73 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,439 I mean, I'm most impressed with their offense. Their offense looks awesome. 74 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:53,360 They really balanced, They're putting points up against everybody that they're playing. So 75 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:57,399 I think I think Louisville is a story to keep watching on. Like they 76 00:05:57,399 --> 00:06:00,120 have a decent defense, but it's the it's the offense that's really putting on 77 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:04,519 the show right now. Again, like like most teams, in the in 78 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:09,120 the ACC, they've got a pretty manageable schedule. So if they can keep 79 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,720 it up, like, look at them to be one of the potential top 80 00:06:12,759 --> 00:06:16,000 two team in the a CC go into that championship game. And I'm certainly, 81 00:06:16,079 --> 00:06:19,279 I mean, I'm probably gonna go on here because it actually was a 82 00:06:19,399 --> 00:06:24,720 really good week for the ACC last week. You know, you always, 83 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:30,120 you always get worried about playing a service Academy. Syracuse still met the bell 84 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,199 there, right they I told Jeff last week, I thought I was concerned 85 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:40,959 that Army could go in there and potentially upset Syracuse. Syracuse found a way 86 00:06:40,959 --> 00:06:43,439 to found a way to win there. They're four and oh, I mean, 87 00:06:43,519 --> 00:06:46,560 and you're not gonna you know, they're probably they very likely will end 88 00:06:46,639 --> 00:06:50,600 up in a bowl game this year. It's the magic of the JMA Wireless 89 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:54,879 Dome. Matthew. You know, you don't. You don't just waltz into 90 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,519 the JMA Wireless Dome and come out with the win. So it's it's that 91 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:02,240 Syracuse magic. They got run up there. And Duke I might add as 92 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,399 well, I mean, I here, I am, I sound like I'm 93 00:07:04,439 --> 00:07:08,279 preciate the quart I mean, I sound like I'm just ringing off teams like 94 00:07:08,319 --> 00:07:12,920 an auctioneer, but there are a lot of teams that have played pretty I 95 00:07:12,959 --> 00:07:15,480 mean really pretty well so far. I mean, would you, Dan, 96 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:19,240 would you suggest I'm just gonna do one follow up before we go to Jeff. 97 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:24,439 I mean, QB plays pretty strong in the conference this year, don't 98 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:29,439 you think. I think the SEC would love to have the quality of quarterbacks 99 00:07:29,439 --> 00:07:34,319 that the ACC has this year. So I definitely agree with that. The 100 00:07:34,319 --> 00:07:38,839 thing that's different about the a SEC this year, We've seen a SEC teams 101 00:07:39,439 --> 00:07:42,680 go through the first couple of weeks of the season and get ranked, and 102 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:46,040 like they'll have like a good win and Week one or two, and then 103 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,600 you'll see a big flop from those ranked teams. Thus far into the season, 104 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:54,360 like the ranked teams seem to be holding up, Like Florida State continues 105 00:07:54,399 --> 00:07:57,959 to look good, Duke's looking good, Miami's looking good, North Carolina is 106 00:07:57,959 --> 00:08:01,240 looking good. So it doesn't look like those ranked teams are a fluke. 107 00:08:01,319 --> 00:08:03,879 They're they're really holding up their end of the bargain. I actually think too 108 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,319 that. I mean, you know, if Louisville wins their next game, 109 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:11,439 they're going to end the top twenty five. I can't see that they're not 110 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:15,240 going to do that, because they're not. They're knocking on the door to 111 00:08:15,319 --> 00:08:26,240 get there right now. Jeffred, you're up all right, thank you, 112 00:08:26,319 --> 00:08:35,000 Matthew Dan with what ACC football game are you looking forward to the most in 113 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:41,799 Week five? So I'm interpreting this question as a game that a team in 114 00:08:41,799 --> 00:08:46,799 the ACC is playing, because technically Notre Dame is not an ACC team. 115 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,320 But the one I'm most excited about is Duke versus Notre Dame, simply for 116 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:54,799 the fact that Duke has a chance to break Notre Dame's twenty four game regular 117 00:08:54,879 --> 00:09:00,440 season winning streak I get versus the ACC. So I think dating back to 118 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:05,200 twenty nineteen, no ACC team has beat Notre Dame in a regular season game. 119 00:09:05,919 --> 00:09:11,679 There was that pandemic era game during twenty twenty where Clemson d did beat 120 00:09:11,759 --> 00:09:16,840 Notre Dame in the ACC Championship game that year, but other than that, 121 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:20,440 dating back to twenty nineteen, no other ACC team has beat Notre Dame in 122 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:24,559 the regular season. So I think this week Duke has a very good opportunity 123 00:09:26,039 --> 00:09:31,879 top set Notre Dame. Right now, Notre Dame's favored the games in Durham, 124 00:09:31,919 --> 00:09:35,480 and like as Clemson found out this year, going into Durham is not 125 00:09:35,519 --> 00:09:39,200 necessarily an easy place to go play. So I think Duke has a pretty 126 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:48,960 good shot this week on ABC nationally televised game to upset Notre Dame, Jeff, 127 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:54,320 I want to do if you don't mind, Yeah, definitely, Matthew, 128 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:58,799 Dan and Jeff. I'm low key looking forward to Louisville and NC State. 129 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,360 I think that's going to be a hell of a game, in part 130 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:07,519 because North Carolina's has got a really good defense, right Their defense keeps them 131 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:11,919 in a lot of games, and Louisville's got a really good you know, 132 00:10:13,039 --> 00:10:16,639 got as dam mentioned earlier, Louisville's got a really good offense. And I 133 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:20,120 will be interested to see how that all turns out. I mean, right 134 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,600 now, it says that louis you know, I think I saw the line 135 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:28,480 on it. Louisville's favored by three, and I'm I'm a little surprised that 136 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:33,320 they're favored going into going in if I'm not mistaken that game's in Raleigh, 137 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:37,600 is that correct? That's right, Yeah, that's I'm a little surprised that 138 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,799 their favored going in there, and I will have I will have my eye 139 00:10:41,799 --> 00:10:46,320 on that because that is as it's an ESPN game, it's on Friday the 140 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:50,559 twenty nine, it's at seven o'clock. It's it's the only one in that 141 00:10:50,639 --> 00:10:54,159 time slots, so there's gonna be a lot of people that are watching that 142 00:10:54,279 --> 00:10:58,279 game. And I'm really highly intrigued by that game because I think you could 143 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:03,159 see, you know, if if NC State wins that game, that's another 144 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:07,279 team that could be knocking on the door or the top of the top twenty 145 00:11:07,279 --> 00:11:09,960 five. And you know, you know, and they've been for the most 146 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,559 part fairly consistent. You've always wanted to see them see if they can get 147 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,919 to the next level by getting a big win. Last year they got they 148 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,879 win against Texas Tech, and but you you would like to see them make 149 00:11:20,919 --> 00:11:24,759 that next step and if they if they can, you know, if they 150 00:11:24,799 --> 00:11:28,600 defeat Louisville on Friday, they got a chance to get back in that in 151 00:11:28,639 --> 00:11:31,159 that top twenty five and have have some have a meaningful game. Go ahead, 152 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:35,799 Dan, Yeah, I was just gonna say, I think the Louisville 153 00:11:35,879 --> 00:11:39,639 being favored in that game is mostly because NC State just didn't look super impressive 154 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:46,320 against UVA last Friday. I mean, like, I think I think NCY 155 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:52,159 State can play better than they've played the these first four weeks of the season. 156 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,080 I think I think they can take it into up to another gear. 157 00:11:54,799 --> 00:11:58,960 I think we haven't seen thus far everything they can do offensively. I think 158 00:12:00,159 --> 00:12:03,120 the defense is playing okay, but in recent years they've played better. So 159 00:12:03,159 --> 00:12:09,480 we'll see which State team shows up against Louisville. But yeah, I mean, 160 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:11,480 they've just got to prove that they can stop that Louisville offense. Like 161 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:16,120 Louisville has been putting up points against everybody they've played this year, So we 162 00:12:16,279 --> 00:12:20,159 just got to see, like which NC State team shows up. If they 163 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:24,039 show up as that really good defensive team that we've seen over the past couple 164 00:12:24,039 --> 00:12:28,480 of years, I definitely think that ENCY State can win that game. Absolutely 165 00:12:28,519 --> 00:12:35,679 absolutely go ahead, Jeff, all right. I mean, and you mentioned 166 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:39,399 it already, Dan, that that Duke in North Carolina, I mean the 167 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,000 Duke and Notre Dame game. I mean, what a great opportunity for Duke. 168 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:48,559 They the game sold out, is already sold out, sold out last 169 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:54,960 week, they got game day going to Durham for the first time, you 170 00:12:54,000 --> 00:13:00,960 know, and Notre Dame coming off a devastating loss to Ohio State, a 171 00:13:01,039 --> 00:13:05,440 game that they really had no business losing. Up fourteen to ten, and 172 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:13,559 Ohio State on that final drive they dropped two interceptions Notre Dame did that could 173 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,759 have ended the game. They gave up a third and nineteen, a fourth 174 00:13:16,799 --> 00:13:20,679 and seven. They really gave that game away against Ohio State. And that's 175 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:26,159 that's gonna be I mean, if you're on Notre Dame's team, that's gonna 176 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:30,840 be really tough to overcome. You know, you've got to focus. You've 177 00:13:30,799 --> 00:13:33,240 got to get focused on Duke right away, because we know what they're capable 178 00:13:33,279 --> 00:13:35,840 of. We saw them again. I mean, they wouldn't have been clemsoned 179 00:13:35,879 --> 00:13:41,120 by three touchdowns. I don't care how any mistakes Clemson made. You know, 180 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,120 that was a three touchdown game. And they've blown out everyone they played, 181 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,600 and Notre Dame's gotta come, you know, turn around following that Ohio 182 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:52,360 State loss, put that behind them and try to get ready for Duke, 183 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:56,600 knowing that they had that game won and they have no margin for error for 184 00:13:56,639 --> 00:14:00,279 themselves to get back into the playoffs. They lose a second game, you 185 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:05,039 know, they're they're finished, and that's that's a lot to come back from, 186 00:14:05,279 --> 00:14:09,480 in my opinion, knowing that they should have, you know, beat 187 00:14:09,519 --> 00:14:15,480 Ohio State. I think Duke has a tremendous opportunity to win that game. 188 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,159 And if Duke wins, I think they're a borderline top ten team, like 189 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,639 they could bault them up into the top ten. So, just like that 190 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:26,639 Clemson game in Week one, if Duke wins this game, like they like 191 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:31,720 they're very much in like the national conversation, if not just the ACC conversation, 192 00:14:31,879 --> 00:14:35,360 like, it would be a huge win for them. Yeah, absolutely, 193 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:41,279 all right, Dan, which ACC team could be on upset alert in 194 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:46,120 Week five if they are looking ahead to a game on their schedule or otherwise 195 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:52,000 just sleep walking on the field. So we just talked about Notre Dame having 196 00:14:52,159 --> 00:14:56,159 played Ohio State and then having to go to Duke, So like we could 197 00:14:56,159 --> 00:15:01,919 see a letdown from Notre Dame, but in the same way we could see 198 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:09,519 a similar type of let down against Florida State. They've got Syracuse on the 199 00:15:09,639 --> 00:15:13,799 road, and as I talked about earlier in the podcast, Syracuse is gonna 200 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,960 be a tough place to play, like a sneaky, tough place to play. 201 00:15:18,399 --> 00:15:22,799 It's a noon game, it's a noon game up in h Up in 202 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:26,559 the northern part of New York. I mean, like, just Clemson better 203 00:15:26,559 --> 00:15:30,360 watch out, Like that's not one you want to get there for that noon 204 00:15:30,399 --> 00:15:33,519 game and sleepwalk through. So I would watch out if I was the Clemson 205 00:15:33,559 --> 00:15:41,440 Tigers. That's one that I'm definitely keeping an eye on. Yeah, that's 206 00:15:41,519 --> 00:15:46,080 that's absolutely true. I mean, over the last several years, even when 207 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:50,720 Clemson was was at the top of college football, when they were they were 208 00:15:50,759 --> 00:15:56,200 among the elite of the elite. Nobody gave Clemson more consistent trouble than Dino 209 00:15:56,279 --> 00:16:00,840 Babers. I mean, they beat Clemson when they were, you know, 210 00:16:00,919 --> 00:16:03,679 at the top of their game and consistently, you know, they're able to 211 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:08,440 get Clemson into the fourth quarter. And you know, now they're coming into 212 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:12,039 this game just like you said, you know, off their own, you 213 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:17,120 know, kind of devastating loss to Florida State, a game that they were 214 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:21,200 in control of until mistakes late late in that one. I mean, how 215 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,840 do you put that game behind? Go on the road to Syracuse, who's 216 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:29,840 playing with a ton of confidence and experienced quarterback, a pretty salty defense, 217 00:16:29,919 --> 00:16:34,120 and Dino Babers, who's never coached with any fear of Clemson. That's an 218 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:41,360 extremely dangerous game for the Tigers. And it wouldn't shock me at all if 219 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:45,360 Syracuse comes out of there with a win. I mean, clearly Clemson's more 220 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:51,559 talented, but Dino Babers has gotten into the fourth quarter with in years where 221 00:16:51,559 --> 00:16:56,320 there was a much bigger talent gap than there is this year. I mean, 222 00:16:56,519 --> 00:17:00,360 I just see noon start and Clemson coming off that huge game of Florida 223 00:17:00,399 --> 00:17:07,400 State that has sleepy early start written all over it for Clemson. So iff 224 00:17:07,519 --> 00:17:11,200 Clemson wants to win that game, they got a better they better get off 225 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,359 to a fast start because if not, it could it could be really dangerous 226 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:18,319 for him. Yep, definitely. All right, Dan, let's step out 227 00:17:18,319 --> 00:17:22,680 of the ACC for a bit here. Which national FBS games are you looking 228 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:29,680 forward to in week five? And we're wide open with this question. This 229 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:33,559 can be Power five, non power five. You can even have an FCS 230 00:17:33,559 --> 00:17:37,039 matchup and then give us the winner of that game or games that you've got 231 00:17:37,039 --> 00:17:40,839 your eye on. So there's a couple that look really fun. So we're 232 00:17:40,839 --> 00:17:44,160 already talked about Notre Dame and Duke. That one looks really fun. Other 233 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:48,880 than that like, you've got LSU going to Old Miss. I think AlSi 234 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:52,000 is playing really good ball after that loss to Florida State in Week one, 235 00:17:52,079 --> 00:17:56,559 so I could see LSU going I'm going into Old Miss and getting a win. 236 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:00,720 So that's one to keep an eye on. And then I'm always looking 237 00:18:00,759 --> 00:18:06,079 for those like really good Thursday or Friday night games, and that Utah going 238 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:10,319 to Oregon State. That one looks really fun to me too, And that 239 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,400 one, that's another one where I'd be looking for Utah to see if they 240 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:18,240 can go on the road and get a win. Obviously, like every week, 241 00:18:18,279 --> 00:18:22,079 I'm saying what Dean Sanders is doing. So they've got They've got USC 242 00:18:22,279 --> 00:18:25,880 This week, I think you're going to see more or less a repeat of 243 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:29,720 what Oregon did to Colorado. But that'll that'll be a good one to keep 244 00:18:29,759 --> 00:18:33,880 an eye on. This week's not as fun as last week in terms of 245 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,240 having a lot of high profile ranks matchups, but there's there's definitely some interesting 246 00:18:37,279 --> 00:18:47,480 ones on the slate. All right, Okay, Matthew, what have you 247 00:18:47,559 --> 00:18:49,960 got? You got a little extra thought here go for I just like to 248 00:18:51,039 --> 00:18:56,960 watch Michael Peenix Jr. From University Washington I think he's such a stud and 249 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:00,440 I think he's the best quarterback in the country right now. And I've always 250 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:04,519 said, like when the University of Washington is good, when the Huskies are 251 00:19:04,519 --> 00:19:11,319 good, when when Seattle's Husky Stadium is rocking, college football is just such 252 00:19:11,319 --> 00:19:15,119 a such a much better place. He's the best quarterback that Washington's had in 253 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:19,440 thirty years, I think in three decades. And that I stayed up, 254 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:25,920 guys, I stayed up and watched them absolutely destroy Cal And you know it's 255 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:30,759 He's just really an outstanding football player. He's got two two players on his 256 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,880 offensive line. In my opinion, they're going to be playing in the NFL 257 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:40,640 next year. And I love what I love watching them. I mean, 258 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:44,720 if they if you know, I actually think Jeff and Dan you can grab 259 00:19:44,759 --> 00:19:47,640 me if I'm wrong, but you know, I think that Washington has one 260 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:51,079 of the toughest schedules they've seen in the country because I think they closed with 261 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:55,920 if I'm not mistaken, they closed with with what what with Wazoo? With 262 00:19:56,079 --> 00:20:03,039 Utah? With h Gosh, I think another Oregon state in Washington State. 263 00:20:03,599 --> 00:20:06,079 Yeah, and all this, I mean, they have like four ranked teams 264 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:11,319 that they close the season with and it's just ridiculous. It's ridiculous actually, 265 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:18,799 and I almost think of one last Washington could could could warrant themselves contention into 266 00:20:18,839 --> 00:20:22,519 the playoffs. It may be difficult, but they're they are they are really. 267 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,920 This is the first time in years and probably the best Washington team I've 268 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:33,680 seen in a long time. They have speed at every single position and they've 269 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:37,319 just done an outstanding job. And every time I can find an opportunity to 270 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,200 watch the Huskies, I will. I used to live in Seattle several years 271 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:44,960 ago, and they're just playing. They remind me of the teams of the 272 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,319 team, the teams of older years. I mean, and I even though 273 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,880 I think they're probably going to destroy Arizona, I will find it. I 274 00:20:51,920 --> 00:21:03,799 will certainly find a way to make time to watch it. All right, 275 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:11,519 sounds good, Matthew Dan. Let's uh, let's get a little fun here. 276 00:21:11,039 --> 00:21:14,720 You know, yea, at your tailgate, what is your snack of 277 00:21:14,839 --> 00:21:19,920 choice at your football tailgates? What is your meal of choice? So my 278 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:25,559 snack of choice is really anything that I can eat one handed with a beer 279 00:21:25,599 --> 00:21:29,359 in the other hand. So the first thing that came to mind there was 280 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:33,039 like chips and caeso, you know, like anything that I can like any 281 00:21:33,039 --> 00:21:37,039 sort of dip, you know, like if it's one of anything you can 282 00:21:37,079 --> 00:21:41,160 pair with like tortilla chips or anything you can pair with potato chips, like 283 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:45,440 anything like that. That works because you can eat it with a beer in 284 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,680 your hand. So I think, I think that's my go to snack at 285 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:56,160 the football tailgate. How about your meal at choice? So along the same 286 00:21:56,279 --> 00:21:59,400 veins, I need to be able to eat it with one hand. So 287 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,640 it's like dogs at Hamburgers. Anything I can hold in one hand and keep 288 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,160 a beer in the other hand, Like, that's That's what I'm going with. 289 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:08,119 So it's like either one is fine, just one handed foods. And 290 00:22:08,519 --> 00:22:11,880 if you're attaching their smoking turkey legs, like they would fall into that same 291 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,160 category. You can hold a turkey leg with one hand, you're good to 292 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,720 go. So anything that falls into the one hand very good, sir, 293 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:25,599 Very good sir. That's most stuff. I think most stuff. We'll have 294 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,279 all kinds of people that share good food every foot at every tail gat and 295 00:22:29,279 --> 00:22:36,160 blacksburg and I'm sure at Clemson it's open microphone time, Dan, what do 296 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:41,799 you got for us? So what I got this week is I'm really annoyed 297 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,400 this year by the running clock in college football. It was a rule change 298 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:51,400 that they implemented for this season that even when somebody runs out of bounds, 299 00:22:52,039 --> 00:22:56,200 like the clock stops on, the clock restarts on the ruddy for play. 300 00:22:56,319 --> 00:23:00,839 And the reason they did that was to try to beat up the game, 301 00:23:00,759 --> 00:23:03,599 But in my mind, the real reason for doing that is just being able 302 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:08,160 to shove more commercials during game time, because as we can all see, 303 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:12,799 the games aren't any shorter than they've than they were last year. And I 304 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:18,240 saw one study that said that in a three and a half hour game, 305 00:23:18,319 --> 00:23:22,920 a third of that time, like almost an entire hour, is spent showing 306 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,920 commercials. So I just think that's that's a rule that they might want to 307 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:32,359 think they might want to roll back next year. I appreciate what they're trying 308 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:36,319 to do. Like they claim player safety, I don't think it has anything 309 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,359 to do with player safety. I think it just has more to do with 310 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,519 fitting in more commercials during the game. So I'd like to see them just 311 00:23:42,599 --> 00:23:45,880 go back to the way it was. I think there's plenty of commercials being 312 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,599 shown during college football. I don't think they need to make any effort to 313 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:53,079 fit more in, and all we're getting is just less football. We're getting 314 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,400 less football and more commercials. So that's a rule. I'd like to see 315 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:00,680 them go back to go back to the way it was to this season, 316 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:06,440 just because we're just getting less football every every college football Saturday, and so 317 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,119 like it's one that I think they should rethink well done. I'm gonna use 318 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:15,519 my my open microphone, Dan to ask you two questions. My first question, 319 00:24:17,759 --> 00:24:22,839 did you see C. J. Carroll's tweets regarding justin Flente in the 320 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,440 schedule and comparing it to this year's coach. Did you see that tweets? 321 00:24:27,519 --> 00:24:33,000 Oh my gosh, that port that guy, he got absolutely destroyed. I 322 00:24:33,319 --> 00:24:36,799 looked at it and I thought, do you still have a Twitter account? 323 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,480 It was pretty amazing. It was pretty amazing, and I can't. I 324 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,960 have to tell you. Maybe on the next episode. I'm probably when we 325 00:24:44,039 --> 00:24:47,720 have more time, I'm going to read some responses, because I read some 326 00:24:47,839 --> 00:24:52,359 responses to his tweets. But he he retweeted it back and said, you 327 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:53,880 know, I had all these laugh emojis and say, oh boy, I'm 328 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:59,359 even getting absolutely crushed here. But I can't imagine that. He he didn't 329 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,880 expect any different, and I thought I did chuckle when I saw some of 330 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,599 those that kind of you know, you have you have to chuck a little 331 00:25:04,599 --> 00:25:07,880 a little bit when you when you have when you have perhaps a more challenging 332 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:12,960 football season, which by coincidence, Dan, that's gonna be by next question 333 00:25:14,079 --> 00:25:18,960 for you. What is your take so far on twenty twenty three Virginia Tech 334 00:25:18,039 --> 00:25:23,640 football? Dan, Yeah, it's it's very much not going well. I 335 00:25:23,759 --> 00:25:30,119 think the Commonwealth of Virginia has the bottom of the ACC pretty well locked up. 336 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,359 I think they're clear, clear cut though, two worst teams in the 337 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:38,880 conference. And as far as Virginia Tech's concerned, I have coaching concerns, 338 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:44,160 and my coaching concerns are really less with like the head football coach, Bred 339 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:48,480 Prye. I have more concerns with some of the assistants. I'm just saying 340 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:53,519 a lot of position groups each week that don't really have a good handle on 341 00:25:55,079 --> 00:26:00,519 assignment football, a lot of missed assignments. And I don't really think this 342 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,480 year. Last year it was clear to me that Virginia Tech had a lack 343 00:26:03,519 --> 00:26:08,079 of talent right just they're they're pretty much getting beat man for man and a 344 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,440 lot of the games they played last year. This year, I don't think 345 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,279 they have as big a talent issue. I think that there is some still 346 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,799 somewhat of a talent issue in Blacksburg, but this year I'm just seeing a 347 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,200 lot of like it feels more like a coaching issue. It feels like a 348 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:27,160 lot of guys that are playing a bit slow and unsure of where they're supposed 349 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,160 to be. And I get it's it's a bit of a young team, 350 00:26:32,279 --> 00:26:36,799 but I do think they should be better than they are. The first four 351 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:42,640 games they played were against teams with comparable talent, and they just got outcoached, 352 00:26:42,759 --> 00:26:47,880 out schemed. They didn't look particularly good, and I think they should 353 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,039 based on the talent that Virginia Tech has, they should be in a better 354 00:26:51,079 --> 00:26:56,960 position than one in three after week four. So I'm not sure what's going 355 00:26:56,039 --> 00:26:59,240 to happen at the end of this year. I'm not sure if they're gonna 356 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,039 change out some of those assistants and some of those coordinators. But it's something 357 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,880 that if I was advising the athletic program, I would say they should probably 358 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,960 take a look at that because they're just not getting the job done at this 359 00:27:11,039 --> 00:27:15,160 point. Fair enough, fair enough. I think that's I think that's a 360 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,079 good assessment. I was, you know, it's always early to talk about 361 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,319 this, right because I have a pull that just ended today and I'm probably 362 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,799 going to post it tomorrow. And I asked severals. I asked several questions. 363 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,920 I mean, the first one was that, you know, do you 364 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:34,440 think Tyler Bowen is going to be around be around next year? I just 365 00:27:34,519 --> 00:27:38,200 wanted to get the pulse of the Hokey fan base. And three quarters of 366 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:44,440 the people said no, you know, so you know, I don't know, 367 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,799 you know, I don't know anything about it, but I got I 368 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,680 got the sense kind of like what we said that there's probably people are losing 369 00:27:51,759 --> 00:27:55,240 perhaps losing some patients with at least a couple of them. And there was 370 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,480 I guess, you know, when when they first when probably first announced the 371 00:28:00,559 --> 00:28:04,599 hires, and even when with Babcock first announced the hires, I had questions 372 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:11,720 about us getting a first time FBS coach, a first time FBS coordinator at 373 00:28:11,759 --> 00:28:15,680 offense, the first time defensive coordinator. You know that's sort of FBS defensive 374 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:21,119 coordinator. Had questions about all of those, right, and at some point 375 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:26,680 sometimes it feels like it's a breeding a training ground at least the way that's 376 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,640 the way that's been the last couple is a couple of cycles, and I 377 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,759 have have I have concerns about that. Are my concerns overblown? Dan? 378 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:40,640 I don't think they're overblown. I think we've seen enough times in college football, 379 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,720 particularly Power five college football, that it's it's not a training ground. 380 00:28:45,839 --> 00:28:49,599 It's not a place for a first time head coach and first time coordinators. 381 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:52,720 And I think if you have a first time head coach, that's fine. 382 00:28:52,759 --> 00:28:56,720 There's nothing wrong with having a first time head coach, but if you do 383 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:02,160 that, you need to pair them with experience corps, as in Virginia Texts. 384 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,400 In Virginia text case, they paired a first time had coach with two 385 00:29:06,519 --> 00:29:10,920 first time coordinators as well. I just think that that's a bad combination. 386 00:29:11,079 --> 00:29:15,920 And like you can look across college football and when you get situations like that, 387 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:19,759 it normally doesn't turn out well. And I think prior like to this 388 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,279 day, I mean, like the results aren't there. I think he was 389 00:29:22,319 --> 00:29:26,720 a good choice for Virginia Tech's head coach, but I think it was a 390 00:29:26,839 --> 00:29:30,559 bad decision to pair him with first time coordinators, because at this point Virginia 391 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:36,319 Tech is very much appears to be learning on the job and trying to learn 392 00:29:36,359 --> 00:29:40,599 on the job, and a Power five conference, it's it's a very very 393 00:29:40,759 --> 00:29:45,319 difficult thing to get right. I'm with you one thousand percent, Jeff, 394 00:29:47,079 --> 00:29:53,079 you're up, friend. What do you got for it? Yeah? Just 395 00:29:56,319 --> 00:30:00,359 I mean, and I know that the polls that come out now, you 396 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,200 know that they a lot of people say, don't you don't have to worry 397 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:07,319 about them because of the playoff. The real polls come out later. But 398 00:30:07,559 --> 00:30:11,839 I always think that the polls that come out now, you know, influence 399 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:18,079 perceptions later on in the season. And you know, one of my gripes 400 00:30:18,119 --> 00:30:25,279 with what they put out today is is why Florida straight Florida State dropping in 401 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:30,519 the polls after winning and covering at Clemson with with an injured quarterback. I 402 00:30:30,559 --> 00:30:33,759 mean, anyone watch that game. You could tell Jordan Travis, you know, 403 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:37,599 still still suffering a little bit with the sore shoulder. He wasn't quite 404 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:42,480 right. You go on the road with a less than hundred percent Jordan Travis, 405 00:30:44,319 --> 00:30:47,839 and you find a way to win at Clemson, still a formidable place 406 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:52,240 to play at even if Clemson's not who who they were and you drop in 407 00:30:52,319 --> 00:30:56,240 the polls. That's my gripe. I don't think I make any sense whatsoever. 408 00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:02,480 I know, Ohio State, which which was the culprit here as they 409 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,839 showed them as the team that that hopped over Florida State and both of the 410 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,200 polls. I mean, it was a good win at Notre Dame, don't 411 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,599 get me wrong, but if you I mean, you watch the game and 412 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,319 you know that Notre Dame let that get away from them. So I'm not 413 00:31:15,359 --> 00:31:18,720 saying, O, how State it's not a five, top five team, 414 00:31:18,279 --> 00:31:22,119 but Florida State has, you know, arguably two of the best wins in 415 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:27,680 college football. They beat LSU, who some people couldn't actually consider might be 416 00:31:27,759 --> 00:31:32,000 the best team in the SEC. You know, we don't know about Georgia 417 00:31:32,119 --> 00:31:33,440 yet. They don't play anyone for two and a half months, so we 418 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:38,359 won't know about them until until maybe when they play Tennessee or the SEC championship 419 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:45,480 game. You know, but they they you know, I don't know when 420 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,680 I saw that game, Florida State steam rolled LSU in that fourth quarter, 421 00:31:48,279 --> 00:31:53,839 and you know, if you're really putting these rhythm rankings together by resume, 422 00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,279 they should probably be in the top two with Texas, who has that win 423 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:05,759 over Alabama. Like I said, Georgia doesn't play any one. Michigan goes 424 00:32:05,839 --> 00:32:08,640 a good couple of months without playing a single team with a pulse, and 425 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:13,680 if you look at their schedule, you know they're they're ranked. Let me 426 00:32:13,759 --> 00:32:17,119 pull up their schedule here, their ranked number two in the country with with 427 00:32:17,279 --> 00:32:22,960 this, uh, you know, juggernaut of an opening schedule of East Carolina, 428 00:32:23,119 --> 00:32:27,799 UNLV, Bowling Green and Rutgers, and you know they're juggernaut of a 429 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:32,000 schedule you know, continues until deep into November with Nebraska, Minnesota, Indiana, 430 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,720 Michigan State, and Purdue before they go on the road to you know, 431 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,400 Penn State. So I mean it must be nice to to go, 432 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:44,119 you know, two and a half months into a season prepping for a game 433 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,799 at Penn State in the middle of November. So I mean, that's that's 434 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:53,279 my gripe. There's no reason that Florida State should have dropped in the poll. 435 00:32:53,519 --> 00:33:00,160 There's no reason to have Michigan as a number two team in in the 436 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:05,119 country if we're based in this on resume and the same with same with Georgia, 437 00:33:05,519 --> 00:33:08,319 you know, number one team in the in the country, and and 438 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:12,480 I'm not faulting, they've been the best team in college football the last two 439 00:33:12,559 --> 00:33:16,559 years. But you know, you're going off of what's happening during the course 440 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:21,039 of the season. And they're opening schedules UT Martin, Ball State, South 441 00:33:21,119 --> 00:33:27,839 Carolina, and UAB and you know they're not playing anyone. Keep going here. 442 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,960 They play at Auburn, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Florida that we already saw 443 00:33:31,039 --> 00:33:37,720 them, got routed by Utah Missouri. You know, they did beat Kansas 444 00:33:37,799 --> 00:33:39,559 State, but they get that at home. So I mean, effectively, 445 00:33:39,599 --> 00:33:44,079 you've got two teams in the top three that don't play anyone for two and 446 00:33:44,119 --> 00:33:46,920 a half months. You know, I would just like to see these polls 447 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:53,680 based on resume rather than perceptions, rather than what they did the year before. 448 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:58,160 I don't know, we probably never get there. We got the you 449 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,440 know, at the end of the day, Florida State takes care of business, 450 00:34:00,519 --> 00:34:04,440 they will be in the in the in the final four. They don't 451 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,920 have to worry about that. But it's still still kind of a gripe there. 452 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:13,679 Yeah, I'd like to see the initial rankings not come out until after 453 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,960 Week four. And the reason for that is just because I think the preseason 454 00:34:17,119 --> 00:34:22,480 polls end up biasing the polls like throughout the rest of the year exactly. 455 00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:27,559 Let's talk Let's talk about a team like Utah, right, Like Utah beat 456 00:34:28,119 --> 00:34:30,440 at this point, it's a pretty good Florida team, Like definitely better than 457 00:34:30,559 --> 00:34:35,000 last year, pretty good, gotta win at Baylor on the road, and 458 00:34:35,079 --> 00:34:38,599 then like one against a ranked you see LA team at home, like that's 459 00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:42,880 pretty good. Like that's that's a pretty good first four weeks of the season. 460 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,159 And right now you've got Utah ranked tenth, Like based on what they've 461 00:34:47,159 --> 00:34:52,400 actually accomplished this season, I would argue Utah should be ranked higher than they 462 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,599 are, but they're they're at the mercy of where they were ranked preseason, 463 00:34:57,199 --> 00:35:01,000 and so they're ranked tenth. I think if the initial pole came out after 464 00:35:01,159 --> 00:35:06,159 this week, I think you might say Utah ranked higher. I'm glad you 465 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:10,159 brought up the tack Pac twelve, Dan, because I looked at the quarterback 466 00:35:10,159 --> 00:35:15,280 I did something on the quarterbacks for the Pac twelve. I did a thread 467 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:19,519 on the quarterbacks in the Pac twelve. That was the other and I had 468 00:35:19,559 --> 00:35:22,800 forgot I had mentioned earlier that was the other team that Washington was playing in 469 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:28,360 their final four. What it's the PAC twelve is really must watch TV this 470 00:35:28,519 --> 00:35:34,360 year because they have so many teams that are ranked in the top twenty five 471 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:39,880 and they have I believe myself that they have eight to ten quarterbacks that could 472 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:45,039 start anywhere in the country. It's very similar to what the ACC had in 473 00:35:45,159 --> 00:35:50,519 twenty sixteen. That's how deep I think QB play is in the Pac twelve. 474 00:35:50,599 --> 00:35:57,119 It's just ridiculously, ridiculously good. And you know, you could see 475 00:35:57,159 --> 00:36:00,519 a point where, you know, Utah and Washington, for example, is 476 00:36:00,639 --> 00:36:02,679 for a spot. You know that's late enough in the year. I think 477 00:36:02,679 --> 00:36:07,400 it's November is what I was looking at. Where that's that that really starts, 478 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:12,119 you know, determining who's going to be in the college football playoff when 479 00:36:12,159 --> 00:36:15,119 you get there. It might even be interesting, like if Washington or to 480 00:36:15,159 --> 00:36:20,880 beat Utah. You could see the Apple Cup becoming like a really significant game 481 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,719 and you really hope that the nation could actually see it and it wouldn't be 482 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:29,679 on the PAC twelve network. I mean, I mean, I like actually 483 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,760 being joking here a little bit, right, but you know, it's They're 484 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:39,480 having the best season that you could possibly possibly imagine in college football, and 485 00:36:39,559 --> 00:36:45,519 their conference is going to be dead this year, and I hate that part. 486 00:36:45,679 --> 00:36:49,079 The traditions of college football are going to be dead after are gonna kind 487 00:36:49,119 --> 00:36:52,280 of be a little dead or after this year because the PAC twelve isn't going 488 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:57,880 to be around. Well two thoughts on that. So, first off, 489 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,039 I think this year, the past twelve is what the SEC has been in 490 00:37:01,119 --> 00:37:06,880 previous years, Like there's that many quality teams, So it's like a last 491 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:12,079 grand stand for the PAC twelve because they look amazing in their final year in 492 00:37:12,199 --> 00:37:16,199 existence. Another thing that brought me joy is like that really late at night 493 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:22,960 Colorado Colorado State game, which would be considered like a PAC twelve after dark 494 00:37:22,039 --> 00:37:28,360 game. The fact that that game had ratings over eleven million viewers even though 495 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,920 it started after ten thirty PM on the East Coast. I mean, if 496 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:35,639 there's quality football, like East Coast viewers will tune in. It doesn't matter 497 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,039 if it's after ten thirty. So, and I totally agree with you, 498 00:37:38,159 --> 00:37:40,639 Matthew. I think this is the year that you want to stay up late 499 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:45,280 on Saturday and watch PAC twelve after dark because there's a lot of really good 500 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:49,039 teams playing out there. I mean, I just take a look at why 501 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,800 when you're when we're off this call, take a look at the last four 502 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:57,559 weeks in Washington schedule book, Dan and Jeff, because it's they will if 503 00:37:57,639 --> 00:38:01,119 Washington gets there or if Utah gets there, they will have earned it, 504 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:07,559 you know. So, guys, have a great week. Dan, thank 505 00:38:07,599 --> 00:38:12,480 you so much for joining the All Sports Discussion ACC podcast. We love deving 506 00:38:12,519 --> 00:38:15,519 you come on the show, and we love we'd love to have you come 507 00:38:15,559 --> 00:38:22,599 on again during college hoops season. Dan, absolutely thanks for having me on. 508 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,119 Guys. It's always fun, all right, have a great week, 509 00:38:24,199 --> 00:38:24,920 guys. Take care.