Hi everyone, Tony from Hack the Movies here, and today we're gonna talk
about Idle Hands, that really funny comedy you watched in the nineties and probably
forgot about and then turned it on again and went, wow, this is
still really good. Today I'm talking about tapes, talking about tapes. Here
we are in uh CDO hotel room in Tampa, Florida, filming on two
go pros and a camera who knows if any of them will last throughout the
whole recording crossing fingers yes, on a couch that has been very used.
I'm gonna get I'm gonna get tested after this episode. Yefinitely the strange woman
who the audience is unfamiliar with. Who are you? Properly introduce yourself?
Properly introduce yourself right now. Hello. My name is Sarah. I am
a professional cosplayer from Florida. Me and Tony we've been talking for a few
months and I dragged him over to Spukala and we decided that we were going
to do an Idle Hands review. So now I am here in this strange
hotel room, on this very strange couch, and now we're going to talk
about Idle Hands. How exciting. It's the camera's not doing it justice.
It's a pretty girl like, yeah, it's it's not it's not doing it
justice none at all. This feels like a twenty ten back Guy with the
Glasses crossover. They used to do crossovers in like hotel rooms all the time.
Anyway, Sarah, we're talking about Idle Hands. I absolutely adore this
is hands. Your favorite movie, right, it's one of my favorites.
I love it, Sarah. This question I'm going to ask you for the
first time is very important. When did you first see this movie? So?
I first saw Idle Hands about I think a good eight years ago.
It's been a hot minute, Okay. I don't know why I gave such
a specific number. I don't. I don't know why I do that when
people ask me, like, that's fine, No, that's fine movies,
I give like a very specific number. That's just how I remember stuff.
But I had it on I got it on physical media. Okay. That's
probably why I remember. I got it on physical media because I had found
it at a thrift store, Okay, and I still had the original like
one that i'd found and the cover was interesting and I was like, oh,
stoner horror comedy. I did you not know this movie existed? I
had heard about it, I just had never really watched it, okay,
And I was like, well, I'll give it a try, and I
watched it and I fell in love with it. And the soundtrack absolutely amazing.
It's good. It's good. Loved the soundtrack, and I've loved it
ever since. Nice. I remember when they were advertising this in the nineties
and when don't this come out? Nineties nineteen ninety nine. It was right
after Columbine. Why would you bring that up? I actually the reason I
bring that up. This was a whole horrible segue. The reason I actually
bring that up is because it actually really ruined the money that it brought in
the high school killing. Yes, actually all right, so it made sense
YouTube, okay, it made sense. A congressman actually mentioned the movie by
name during like one of the I guess, during some type of meeting or
whatever talking about violence. And we've circled back to it. But the nineties
were pretty big with the violence and video videos during that whole thing very prevalent,
and the movie Idle Hands was mentioned by name that really ruined it.
Marketing was kind of pulled out, which is funny because I remember the marketing
for this movie. Yeah, it really, it really ruined it. I
believe it was pulled out of theaters a little bit early. If I might
be wrong, Okay, I might not be correct about that information. Well,
I hope you are because I didn't do a lot of research into the
making of So I hope you are right. I might. Yeah, someone
correct me if I'm wrong. But I do know that the even though it
really has nothing to do with anything related to Columbine, if there there are
kids being killed in the dance at the end, which is funny because we
just did Buffy the Vampire Slayer not too long ago. Yeah, and they
toned down like she was originally supposed to burn down the gym at the end
of that movie and they changed it. Yeah. Okay, so I didn't
know that, but yeah, I remember. I remember the commercials very vividly.
I thought this movie looked awesome. Idle Hands, the touching story of
a boy and his hand. Didn't see it in theaters. I was a
little young. I was seeing like R rated stuff in theaters, but like,
for whatever reason, I couldn't get to that one. And then I
watched it on cable like a few years, like premium cable, so nothing
cut out like a year. Yeah, a year or two later, and
I really really liked it. I dug it. I loved the humor in
it. It was different than things I had seen before. And then the
funny thing is I've only maybe watched it like two or three times in my
entire life. See, I've seen this movie good, maybe twenty times.
But the last time I saw this movie was probably before your first time seeing
the movie. Probably it's been a very long time. But upon rewatching it,
I was kind of shocked that I remembered almost all of the movie,
Like every time a new scene started, like it scenes I hadn't thought about
in years. I'm like, I know what's about to happen next. I
will say. I love this movie. Don't get me wrong, But it's
not it's not a it's not an in depth movie, you know what I
mean. But it's not trying to be exactly like, it's not. It's
not a it's not you don't have to think hard to get the movie.
It's just I mean, you really, it's a movie. You sit down,
you get high, and you watch it and it's easy to understand and
it's fun. Well, I didn't get high. Drugs are bad. Yeah,
you shouldn't do them. And I always say that on this show.
I always say it on the show. Uh. Yes, you don't take
the movie seriously, but yeah we should probably. Well who directed this film?
Oh? Yes, so the director is Roden Flunder, Yeah, thunder
Flounder Flunder, Yeah, who I think is more of a TV guy these
days. Yes, drink a lot of TV. But he also directed an
indie movie that I like, The Eat Brains Love. Yeah, that was
a pretty fun movie. Seventeen. Yeah, that was a fun one.
That was a fun one. I know. He directed like a couple episodes
of Screen Yeah. MTV Yes, MTV one. Yeah, uh yeah.
Who did he write this? Also? Who wrote it? I would have
to I can fact check it. I'm not sure what. No, we
don't fact check. Think we know things off the top of our heads.
He directed it, but I'm not entirely sure if he wrote it. Real
quick, what's that over there? Oh it must have been nothing. I
know who the writers are, clearly it's Terry Hughes Burton and Rob Millpower.
Oh you know them. The one wrote Alpha's and the other one produced The
Handmaid's Tale. We all know that. Yeah, we all know that.
We never forgot that detail. Yeah, I had it written down here.
I just couldn't. Really. We were distracted by whatever was outside that window.
It's super cool. I'm sad you missed it. But yeah, this
movie uh stars Oh yes, so it stars Seth Green, Elden Henson,
Devin Sawa and Jessica Alba and Vivica A Box Jesus Christ jess album, Oh
Jessica album. This might have been no Dark Angel, definitely, but this
was like, this is my first exposure to like a very dressed down Jessicalbut
I was like, oh, oh shit. And Devin Sah I believe we
saw him today, Yes we did. He was absolutely lovely. He was
very sweet, and you were dressed as Seth Green today. I was you
didn't do for the review? I know I didn't. I didn't even have
the poster. You had the Idol hands poster. He could have put it
right there. I know. I'm so disappointing. I'm sorry. So,
yes, they're all in it here. So at this point I was on
board with Seth Green. I loved him as Scott Evil. Yes, Eldon
Hanson I wasn't too familiar with. He's gone on to be in like Daredevil.
Yes, in Hunger Games, Tarror Devil and Hunger Game. Okay,
yoh, that's right. He is in The Mighty. Yeah, and that's
it. That's all the movies he's ever done and show. He's very lovely.
I met him before. He's very sweet. Oh wait, I remember
another show he was in, Jessica Jones. That's the same character from Dared
Tel Yes, but yeah, and then Devin Salah of course Casper Chucky TV
TV series. He plays like five people in Chucky. Yes, he plays
a priest. He's now the president. And I didn't finish last nek.
I haven't even seen the first episode from the new one, so I didn't
finish last season. I got to get around to that. Well, watch
it. He plays a hot priest and I like that. I don't know
why he had to point out that he was a hot priest. Shouldn't sexualize
men of the cloth. Okay, anyway, sorry about that. This is
a very wholesome show. I have some kind of vivig a Fox storyline.
But yeah, well we'll get into let's let's go through the movie here.
Okay. So the movie starts off with Fred Willard, the late Fred Willard
Icon. I literally writ yeah, I haven't here Fred Willard Icon. Yea,
he is amazing. I do like Fred Willard goddamn. Now after he
died, I'm like, man, that guy was so good. He was
in so much stuff. I'm so glad he got to be in. I
think you should leave the best sketch comedy show on TV rower Netflix right now.
My condolences. So he's in bed with his wife. They're talking about
their son Anton. The room is so fucking ugly in this it gives me
a headache. The orange walls like the floral I think it the I don't
know there's a green somewhere. Their whole house makes no sense. Yeah,
their house is bizarre, really weird, and they go all out for Hallow.
It gives me a migraine, Like it's horrible. I just every time
I watch the movie, I'm like, who made this house? And like,
I just I just hate I hate it. It is a cool house.
It is a cool house, but yeah, it's all decked out.
They have dummies with pumpkins on the mountain. They go all up for Halloween.
But they're ready to go to sleep and then they look up and they
see written on the wall, and you know, it's actually funny. When
this came on, I think I turned that. I didn't realize I was
watching Idle Hands when I first saw I put it on. I remember just
seeing this scene and being like, what is this? And then I when
I saw like the actors, and I'm like, oh, just the Hand
movie. It's the Hand movie. It's the Hand movie. Yeah, so
I love the I'm under your bed. That was really really creepy. It's
crazy. And then she gets pulled under well no, no, no,
the dad dies. She goes to look for him. He's Deadsville. And
then she goes to hide in her room and she's calling for Anton. Yes,
she calls for Anton. He doesn't answer. And then she goes back
to the room and then she dials nine one one, the slowest you could
ever. She goes nine one. It pisses me off every time. And
then the hand grabs. I don't know what it does her, but it
like the whole bed like shape. I don't care, but she kind of
was asking for I don't care. You could have hit that those numbers a
little bit faster, like she like. But then we can introduce to Anton,
who was oblivious to all of this. Yeah, and he is such
a stoner. He smokes out of his goddamn in hailer. I honestly kind
of want to does he even have asthma? I think he's a faker.
That's just this excuse. I kind of really want to make that that.
I think I heard on a podcast that one of Devin's friends has that crop
still. But yeah, I think it's very funny. But you know,
he's tired, he needs to get stoned, so he goes over to his
friend's house. He ignores Randy on the way. Oh yeah, Randy.
So Randy. So that he's played by Jack Noseworthy. Yes, and that
character is pretty fun. The one thing I will say is his like theme
song I guess is Shouted the Devil by Motley Crey Ray. Oh yeah,
because he's like, yeah right. But the thing is really funny with this
movie. I feel like they were super excited that they got the rights to
the Motley Crue song because they use it. I believe I counted seven times
in this movie, and I just think it's really funny. I'll have to
fact check that and see if I play a Motley Crue montage. They use
it so much in this movie. It's comical, like it's a good song,
but I just always think it's really funny. So yeah, he goes
to Mick and Panubs pinub pub. I know, said Penub at one point.
It's a weird day, but I love how they're also stoners. But
even they think Anton is too lazy, and they're trying to motivate him,
like you don't even know about the dance coming up to school, So yeah,
they're trying to motivate him. And Anton gets a glimpse of Chessca Alba
and she drops her book lyrics book. Yeah he likes. He's like she
writes great lyrics and she like just stares at her in class. I guess
Devin is really fucking creepy in this movie. He is so creepy. And
I think Jessica Alba is like challenged mentally. She's a very olade. She
has some ship. She's just a very bizarre like her reactions to everything.
Maybe she's like a true crime fan. She's like really into a creepy man,
and honestly, Actually, the funny thing is to relate it to something
we like. It feels like Twin Peaks season three, where just for some
reason, no one really calls attention to how fucking weird Dougie is. They're
like, oh, Tuggy, you're acting a little bizarre day, But what
do you mean bizarre? His brain is like melting, He's just bumbling.
I'm like, none of you think this is weird. You like, come
on, guys, oh I will. I will say this though, when
when we were first introduced to making, I always I think it's so funny
how intensely dyed their hair is. Because Seth Green is a redhead. He's
a ginger, and then I believe. I mean, I think he's also
a redhead too, but Seth, I mean it's freshly dyed. It is
just dark black, and his is like just dark. I just think it's
funny. It's like freshley died. But yeah, so jessicalbu she drops,
she drops her lyric book and then he goes to get it. He borrows
pinubs pants because he's wearing boxers. That's right, that's right. So we
gotta remember he's in and through the window, coming through the house why the
fuck not? Ye. He goes to her house, but he picks up
the lyrics book and he sniffs it. It's so creepy. It's not even
like she was wearing this scar for something snipped. He looks so creepy when
he does it. Like I love Devin Sawell, but I'm like, he
looks character the kind of sucks. It's kind of creepy when he does that.
It kind of words like I would fear for my life if I saw
a man do that sniffing a book. No, I don't, like he's
like creepy sniffing a book. I'd be really yeah, I'm freaked out by
what you just did. Episode over holy shit. Yeah yeah, he's creepy.
Yeah, but I like. He goes to her house and he tries
to get away, and she opens up the door real quick. She's like,
thank you for my book, like she was expecting someone to give it
to and he he like hits her in the tits with the book. He
like slams her with the book and she's like, oh okay again, not
not going al you ask what's wrong with you? Look kind of into it,
and then he runs away like a coward. He like freaks out or
runs away and then we get the b pluck, but you kind of forget.
It's in the movie where vivig A Fox is Debbie Cure liquor Lo cure
her. No, it's the Cure. Uh. Were introduced her as a
nun and she's had a very holy book and she's going into prison where they
found this killer, yeah, killer, and she's there to exercise a demon
in him. But then we see his hand is all with her and she's
like it's already gone. Yeah, so now we know that the killer is
out there and it's a hand, a demonic hand, like she takes off
her nun outfit right outside of the hands killing spree is making a pentagram.
Okay. The continuity of this pentagram is so like they really stretch it,
okay, like it barely makes a pentagram. Like it's I mean, I
think they did it on purpose, yea, to like make it. I
just I just think it's funny that the it barely makes a pentagram, like
they're really stretching that. But I love it. Baget Box in this movie.
I think I think both her and Jack Nosworthy their characters are very they
like they overplay their characters, because I think their characters are one. I
feel like they're just like kind of pad the run time and to be just
like what solves the problem at the end. But given this, these small
parts that are kind of feeling, they do a really good job of being
memorable. And they done it wrong, but they did it right. Now.
They kind of have to be over the top because the material they're given.
And she's just like, I'm here to kill the hand, and he's
like, I know about the devil and I need I exist to tell her
where the hand is. I am here to do a job. Yeah,
but they do it. But they have enough personality that it makes them stand
out. So they're not just forgettable characters. They're hilarious. But I'm wondering.
I'm wondering if there was like an earlier draft where they're not in it,
like what that might look like. Yeah, we need more characters.
Yeah, yeah, like I was running a little short. How do they
stop the hand? This feels kind of like it was adding and it might
not be. It mightn't existed the whole time. What do I know?
I don't like some kind of fucking writer. Now, Wow, thanks,
you've written stuff we'll get back to this. The cops. The cops rough
up Anton. Oh yeah, okay, so the scene where he okay,
I wrote like so many notes about this scene. So he goes into with
like this fucking chopping cart, right, and it's like all foggy because why
not, I guess, ambiance. And you can see where they put the
fog machines. You can, oh, I'll show you. I'll like bring
up a clip later editing this. Oh yeah, sir, when you're editing,
leave a note for yourself apparently to drop that. I have to now
this goddamn clip town editor. I'll send you clip. I'll send you a
copy. Thanks for sending yea send me the movie. I got you personally
because it's funny. But you can see where they put the fog machines and
it's just like it just copys amounts of fog and it's just I just think
it's super funny. And then yeah, so the the two cops that went
to high school with Antony, they like confront him and this and like this
smoky, foggy all really weird because you know about the killer. At this
point, he was made aware that there's a murderer. Yes, because it
was a hand but because the felt sine twins Yeah whatever, yeah, twins,
they got they got iced. Yes. And there's a I know a
fact about these cops that ties into a scene later that got deleted and I
only know it through my friends Ceble. We'll get to it there, okay.
But yeah, they kind of rough up Anton because he tries to buy
drugs off them, though he's like yeah, asshole. Yeah, and they
like search his pockets even though they're not his pants becauants, that's right.
They take a little, they take some money from him. They find a
baggy even though there's nothing in the baggy. Oh no, they smell marijuana
and they throw the baggy on the ground and they charge him for littering asshole
cops. But then he goes home and he watches Sexy Ladies on TV and
Pamela Anderson. I don't know who it is. It looks like Pamela Anderson,
but it's Pig. It's it's Pig. I think that's a song.
It's it's it's a good song. I don't remember. I just remember he's
watching it. It's on my Spotify, and he's making a sandwich and I
love that he doesn't realize the knife is just covered in blood. No,
the sandwich just grosses me out. It's not even the blood, it's the
bolooney and the massive amounts of mayo that this man puts on him, just
being he's been so oblivable. He's like, look, I like looking at
boobs, but if I'm making a sandwich, I need to see and make
sure I'm putting all the ship on a sandwich so nasty like a boloney and
it tons of man. Do adults eat baloney? Do adults? This is
a question? Grown men eat boloney? Well, I know one crown man
who eats boloney. And this has brought up a lot. On my good
friend Carl's podcast, Who are these podcasts? But stuttering John Melendez talks about
making boloney sandwiches and they make fun of them all the time. They're like,
we're kind of adult eats baloney. That's a meal for kids. I
got nothing against bolooney. I don't care, but yeah, he do.
He finally notices the blood and he's like what And then there's like a and
then there's a tilt. There's like a oh, what's it called them?
What's that angle called Dutch angle, Yes, Dutch angle, thank you.
I know I went to film school. I didn't get a degree, but
I went to film school. Yeah. So there's a Dutch angle, thank
you, and I love it and he realizes it and then there's a shot
of bones the cat licking an eyeball. You know, I don't like that
scene. I turn the movie off. Yeah, I don't know what happens
afterwards. You gotta fill in the rest. Uh No, Yeah, I
like that scene. So he's finally pieces together. He's like, oh my
god, He's like, there's a murder in my house. Is this where
he finds his parents? Yeah, he finds this. Oh wait, before
that, I love this scene where he thinks the killers of the house and
he like he like suits his dogge and it's like not a dog that's gonna
take on a killer. The dog. Also, I just I love the
dog in this. The dog is adorable. Ye, Like, I think
this dog is so fucking cute. But yeah, he literally he like sacrifices
the dog. He like pushes this poor dog, and then like and then
he like goes down the No, he doesn't go down the stairs, but
like he like sees like a reflection of like what is either Pinub or Mick.
I think so it's one because they show up. Yeah, and then
they're they're not even worried about the dead bodies of the parents who are now
in the No. No, well then well then well for then, okay,
I know that at one point he goes upstairs with the dog and they
like hide under the covers and that's super cute because it's a cute dog.
And then he's trying to find like the phone, and he accidentally presses the
alarm. He gets scared, takes off the covers, sees that I'm under
your bed right. That's when he goes down the stairs, trips on the
umbrella, and then sees the dead pair reflection, the reflection, it's something
like that. Well, whatever happens, eventually they show up and they are
more concerned with what's on TV. That Yeah, they're more observed but pop
that couchie than they are the dead. Okay, let's stop. This is
a family chew a family show, damn every I just want a nice wholesome
girl on the show for once. Sorry, there are any Mormons who want
to be on the show, please anyway, any Mormons go to netl City.
So they were like, oh my god. They're so they're looking for
clues. They find like a rip up piece of his shirt. Before that,
Ellen put no bangs on his father's to give and he's like, he's
like, dude, that's my dad. He's like, I'm sorry, I
saw him Baywatch. Yeah. But then there's like a scene later on Oh
no, no, I thought was it an e R? I thought he
said e R? But there is another No, one is watch, but
there is an another one. Oh where Oh yeah, he's like, haven't
you ever watched e R? Yeah? They make a lot of references to
that. Yeah, everything nineties bay Watch, my r. Yeah, there's
a lot of nineties references, like the reference. Oh that's right. I'm
like what so I like that. Uh. They find the ripped up shirt
and then they see it and which, by the way, he said earlier
he hadn't seen his parents in a few days, so he has been wearing
that shirt for a few days. Yeah, also like a house, not
concerned that his parents are just like, notice, he's so oblivious. He's
so oblivious and lazy. But I love that. Seth puts the shirt and
he goes the killer was wearing your shirt and then this was weird. So
the glow and the dark paint finally shows up on his hand and then the
music kicks in the killer. The killer was wearing me. And then I
like the shot of Eldon and Seth. It's like a POV show. Yeah,
I love. I really liked that shot. And at this point from
this movie on, like, from this point on, I wrote because I
was listening to the commentary track between Rodman, Seth and Eldon, and the
lighting from this point on is actually really inspired by Suspiria, Okay, which
I one of my favorite movies besides this one. I love Suspiria. I
loved Dario Gento. But there's a lot of reds and greens, and some
of the shots are like some of the some of the kills are directly in
like some of the shots are directly inspired by Dario Argento films. Okay,
I mean, when we get there, all point him out, but I
just wanted to preface that. I just think that's we're interesting because I would
never expect a stone or horror comedy to take inspiration from an Argento film.
Yeah, you know what's funny. The only Argento film I've reviewed was on
Patreon. We did Opera, which isn't even one of the really good ones.
Yeah, I should do more Argento. I should do like review Suspiria
and the New Suspiria, or maybe do like the Three Mothers trilogy or Tanber
is that part of the Three Mothers Trilogy? I mean just Argento. Yeah,
he makes a lot of movies anyway. Yeah, so he's and then
they're like should I should I call nine one one? What's the numbers?
The number? And I start smoking more weed. Yeah. But then he's
in the kitchen and he confronts Mick uh and he accidentally kills Mick. Yeah,
with a bottle, just shoves it right. And then that the way
that that shot his film does apparently reference. It's not like a referencing a
kill from TENEBRAE. It's like the way it's filmed is apparently like a reference
to kill friend. When Seth Green just opens up the refrigerator, just get
some space, and I was acting with the hand is really really good.
Yeah, so I believe you probably know this, but for you guys,
if you don't, Devin Sawa and the Hand once it's not on Devin Saua's
body was played by Lord. I cannot remember his name for the life of
me. You're like, everyone knows this fact, and then you go,
I don't know the fact. No, listen, I do, but I
just can't remember his name. His name here, yeah, right, for
the podcast listeners, the name was, and then I'll just insert the name
if I remember it. So, the guy who played a thing from Oh
Okay, he was the guy who played the sentient hand. But he had
experience, oh yeah, very good with his hands. Sorry, and I
couldnell myself. And he also trained like he also helped Devin Sahwa, like,
you know, really make it its own character. And I think it's
really interesting because compared to a thing from Adam's family, completely different. Yeah,
you know, because the thing is very you know, kind of you
know, funny and not not this murderous. Yeah he's not, even though
he lives with people who probably murder, and he's not very murdered. Yeah,
but you know, this demonic you know, fucking hand is terrible.
I will say him with the hand. It does remind me of Bruce Campbell
and Evil Dead two. And I'm sure that yeah, plate was partly yes,
and I this was inspired by that, and I absolutely love Evil Dead
too. The decapitation for pinelb is really good. I love it. But
even even though like a lot of times with like nineties kind of digital composites,
sometimes they look a little wonky, this one's pretty good. Actually,
a lot of the scenes with him in his head actually look fine. Yeah
you know, I know, like a majority of the movie was practical,
but the stuff where they did u cegi, they did a really good job,
like for like seem like making it look seamless. I think it was
really good. Like, yeah, you can see like a little bit,
but like whatever. So he doesn't like his hand, probably because it killed
his friends and his hand does not like a cat. Yeah, it's just
like so, yeah, he's watching TV and then he's trying to change the
channels and he has like this. I love the physicality Ofsawa on this movie.
Like we talked about this a little bit earlier. I think he does
a great job. Tosses it all the way to Molly's. Yeah, that's
why he goes to Molly over there, and that prompts the hand and hand
to go over to Molly's house and she's like inviting him in and he's trying
desperately not to murder her with the hand because the hand just wants to kill
her. Uh, And she is super into him, even though he looks
like he strung out and tweaking out. He looks, yeah, no,
he looks like a method like he If you walked in here like this the
whole time, I'd be like you need to leave this is this isn't good
pat into my house? Yeah, I wouldn't. And she's like, oh
yeah, come on, She's like super into it. She's like you should
come in. Then he like starts accidentally choking her. Oh before that,
she grabbed He grabs her ass right, and she's like I didn't think you
were He was like, I didn't think you had the balls to do that.
They would not write the character like that these days and Hollywood film Like,
she's just so into it. I'm telling you, this character would not
exist stupid in a major Hollywood film these days that I would not fly.
But yeah, she's very into everything that's happening, right down to the choking.
Like she seems taken like by surprise by the choking, but she's not
against it. So he finally is like, I don't want to kill her,
but I need to get lately. He should be like, oh my
god, my friends and parents are dead. He does not, and he's
like, but it's I'm going to bang Jessica Alba. They have to wait.
I mean, I get it, it's Jessica album. I would also
wait, like I get it. Yeah, I like, look, I
love my parents Alba. So he ties up his hand and she's like kinky.
Oh you're kinky. I'm like, and I'm like, are you like
you think it's kikky for him to tie up just his one hand, like
why not both? Why not tie up you? Just again? Like we
needed like a backstory where they go like, yeah, a few years ago,
she hit her trauma. I wanted to be like Molly, such a
babe. It's it's a shame she hit her head on the diving board a
few years ago. To explain, like what did she go through to be
this fuck up? Like what's her trauma? You know? So then he
buries his friends and his parents. Yep. That like that's like that's when
the lighting is very suspirisque. And then he like he does pretty shitty eulogy.
Yeah, but then he hears his friends talking. They're back. His
friends come out of the ground. There's zombies. It's super dramatic and it's
super cool. I love the I love how Panub comes up headless, see
gets super cool. It's really well done. Yeah. And then they knock
him over the head with the shovel, knock him out, and then he
wakes up next morning and his bad headphones on like nothing happened, Everything's fine,
it was all a dream. Yeah, Solls blond of shirt doesn't notice.
It goes downstairs. Mick and Panub are on the couch chilling out eating
cheetahs, and he's like, guys, I had the craziest dream. I
thought I killed you guys, blah blah blah, and they're they're just one
hundred zomba vie. Yeah. Pub is headless, yeah, eating cheetohs like
into his mouth, yep uh. And So I like this because when I
first like, I forgot this is the one part I did forget. And
then when they said the line, I was like, I remember how funny
it was here in that line the first time. But like when I before
I rewatched this, for some reason, I thought it was gonna be like
American Werewolf where like he's hallucinating his friends and I had that false memory.
But no, No, the reason there's zombies is because they went they were
going to heaven and they heard the NA music and people saying come to the
light, and then they said they went. Now that's lame, Plus it
was really far. That's so funny, so they went back to their decaying
bodies instead, Like what is this universe that you can just opt not to
go to heaven and just be a zombie for it? And like that's so
funny. And I just think they every time I'm like the weird reference I
always caught me off guard. I'm like, whoa, Okay. So in
this scene, they tried to givince them to go talk to Randy because Randy
knows a lot about demon stuff, because they realized that they assume yeah,
but like I'm like, he just likes quite right and like Molly Crue and
his Ford, Yeah, he's a double worsher. Randy's talking to a girl
at the memorial for the Twins who's in high school. Yes, oh we
we evergot they found the Twins' ears and like a bag of onion rings earlier
and fun fact. I don't know if it was during production, but a
few years later they found out that the actress who played like whoever, like
Whoever that Jack knows Worthy was hitting on they're related like their sister and brother.
Really yes, yes, yes, Like I wrote this down in my
notes, like they yeah, yeah, yeah, that's awkward. Yeah,
crying girl is Jack Know's Worthy sister? Really awkward? Now? Yeah,
but I like that she's like crying, but like, it turns out she
was really mean to the twins. What did she say to that? I
told him to go blow each other or something. Yeah, So he's like
trying to be there for her, but then he kind of gets blocked five
or something. She's like nineteen. He gets blocked by Aunt, and he's
very upset because he comes up to them and he looks like he's a jacket.
Yeah, he's like he looks like he's jacketed, Like he looks really
grotesque. But I like like that. Randy gets into his ford and just
like drives over the memorial but he was pretending to care about a minute ago
shot shot the Devil plays once again, Yes, and then Anton breaks into
the uh the Safari theme fast food place dress up as one of the employees.
He's like, put his hand at the meat and everything, and he's
just he just really was information for Brandy. So Randy tells him like,
hey, uh you got He's like, you gotta keep your hands busy,
idle hands or the devil playing around, yeah, which is a common expression.
He's like, that's why I'm always on the working on the ford.
It keeps me out of trouble. So he takes that to heart and he
just starts knitting. Yes, and I will say during the during the jungle
restaurant, what's I don't remember what I remember, I forget what it's called.
But during that scene, there's a there's a cameo by Tom DeLange,
okay from Blank. He's the blonde one that takes over the shift. He
so Devin saw what comes in. He's like, oh, break break time,
and then he takes over the counter. So yeah, that's a blank
to cameo. And then Rob Zombie kicks in. This is the only movie
where you can watch a guy knitting with zombie friends while Dragula plays dam right,
that's why I love it. And he learned how to knit for this
movie. Apparently that's pretty cool. Yeah, that's pretty cool. So the
cops break it because they realize he's the killer. Yeah, and he's just
he realized like, oh wait, I can get them to arrest me.
Yeah, so he can't stop niitting. Cuff me and they're like stop knitting.
He's like, no, I can't do that. Just cuff me,
just cuff me, just cuff me. Oh. But also before that,
the cops are like, they realize that there's two dead fucking people, but
they're like talking yeah, and one of them shoots pun ub in the head.
Oh yeah, and he's like, oh, we're gonna say turn yourself
in, but fuck these guys like assholes, what the hell? So he
he stabs the one through the ear, which was and then he gets the
taser and he recreates a thing for my favorite video games, siphon filter,
where you could just taser someone until they like they're uh. He kills the
cops and then what's his face goes go go. So my friend Cecil we
did a commentary track and the the topic of deleted scenes came up and how
sometimes there's like leftover stuff and apparently that's that's the mascot. Yes, it's
a callback because those guys were mascots, right, yes, but that was
like cut out of the movie. And yeah, and also because you don't
know, like it's never also referenced what the school mascot is. I always
just assumed that it was the school mascot. And then I'm pretty sure in
just commentary tracks the Bunch, Yeah, yeah that's what he So he said
like that, there's movies, and I talk about this when I do like
work print videos and stuff. It is funny how sometimes scenes will get deleted,
but then they'll be like remnants of them in the final product. Because
yeah, because my friend seesil, He's like, I was always confused why
he went go go Buffalo a funny line. It's a funny line, but
you don't know like what it refers to or where it comes from. So
yeah, Anton, finally, I mean Ash figured this out pretty quick,
but Anton it took him a while. Yeah, he's a bigger eightieth than
Ash, to be honest. He's like, I'm gonna cut off my hand,
so he takes the bagel guillotine. They're like, this doesn't even cut
my bagels and it doesn't work. Yeah, it's ship. This part was
in the trailer with Seth Green going look at me, I quote that all
the time. Then he just gets the meat cleaver. Yeah. I love
think it's pinub to bite down on his hand to keep it still or like
before that, he turns his head around. He's like, I can't look,
I can't. Yeah. Yeah, Devin saw during the with the meat
cleaber that was a real meat cleaverer. Oh here's the rubber one. Yeah,
And I'm like, Jesus crazy. I'm sure the insurance guy was.
I know she was like like, can you give him the fake one and
just not tell him? Just not tell him. So he finally cuts off
his hand and then this is the er scene where he like he gets the
iron and burns so happy iron. I just love how he's so happy with
it, and he's like, you know, you got a car. So
he realizes. He's like, Okay, we need to get you anisptic.
We'll be back. And then Anton he sees that the hand left the thing
going like bad move, Anton, and he's like, oh no, I
fucked up. He finds the hand because Molly's showing up and she's like Molly
because they agreed to go to the dance and Molly looks sexy. Holy ship.
Yes, she's an angel. So she's like, why aren't you answered
the door? He's so weird and she just doesn't under Yeah, she's kind
of sucking dumb. So yeah, he puts the hand in the microwave,
blows it up, basically melts cross. It's really I believe in Oh,
I don't think it's Resident Evil, but there I know there's an Easter egg
in a game, in a video game where that scene is referenced. Oh
really, I might. I don't think it's it might not be Resident Evil,
but I feel like whoever someone watches this, they will know you don't
know about it's either Resident Evil or it's another video game. But I know
that there is an Easter egg where there is a microwave and there's a hand
in there, Like it is a direct reference. I will look for.
Actually, that sounds like something might have been in Resident Evil seven. To
be honest, it's no, it's not seven. It's not so because I
religiously played seven. Okay, never mind, never mind, I was wrong.
I thought I knew video game. I won't know it, but I
know that it's not I will. Yeah, you're like I don't know what
the game is. It's like, it's not resid seven, Like, okay,
is it Yoshi's Island? Is that the movie is it? Is it
Bomberman sixty four sixty Let's say what what? What? What video game could
it be? Uh? Jumper Griffin's story was a reference in Jumper Candy Crush
anyway. Anyway, so like he's like, what's your costume? He's like,
oh, severed hand guy. The guy put over his arm, his
target bag around it. Yeah, a target bag. Yeah. She like
ges to touch it and he's like no, oh yeah. So then Mick,
so they go to the dance. Mick and Pinelb come back and they
let the handout and they're not too concerned about it. Ship they got burritos
though. Yeah, they're like, oh whatever, burritos. They are so
not really they choose to care when it's convenient for that, I guess.
Yeah. But then we finally cut back to the Debbie plot, which I
feel like they took a really long break. She's at the Bowling Alley,
which is the same bowling alley that with The Big Lebowski was filmed at.
Oh same exact one. Uh huh, you should do The Big Lebowski at
some point. Yeah, that'd be fun. And I didn't realize. I
forgot they did like quasi sequels that they did, like the movie about the
Jesus. Have you seen those? I haven't. I haven't. Yeah,
I haven't seen them. Maybe I'll finally watch them. I do love Lebowski
one. Yeah, but I like the Debbie like because again, this feels
like a writing thing, like it's lazy writing, but it's on purpose.
Yeah, I feel like it's really funny. They're like, what if she
just gave him every detail she needs to know right now? He's like,
what's your story? It's like, I come from a long line of Drew's
blah blah. And he's like, oh cool, I know a guy like
he does again, I know I doesn't question and Alway's like, you know,
my friend said he had a messed up in She's like, take me
to him. It's so funny, Like it's really I think they they act
it just right, like they they know what type of movie they're in and
they sell it and I love it. So yeah. They they decide they're
gonna hunt him down. Yep, Anton I think he figures out that the
hand wants to kill Molly right, yes, because he it's like on his
fence or something, but it says she's mine, right right, right,
right, coming after Molly, So he tells her he'll meet her later.
And he tries to convince his friends like, we gotta do this, we
gotta do that, we gotta save him, and they don't want to do
it. And they only agree to help him with this because they just don't.
He's about to do a speech Joe, I watched TV. I smoke
pot No, no, no, Kevin Constant speches, all right, let's
just go. So I forgot that. Uh Seth Green is annoyed with a
pinub's head and he decides to fix it. Oh yeah, yeah, So
he takes it, takes like a skewer like pitchfork or sometimes yes, like
a skewer, and he like puts it through his head. It's really it's
really well done. It's kind of icky. Yeah. The sound that the
ad r and during the scene is yeah, griss. But then he eats
the burrito finally. Yeah, So he sticks it, sticks the head on
the back on his body and then he they microwave brito. He eats it
and I'm pretty sure. In the commentary track, it was like apple sauce,
like cinnamon apple sauce, but it looks disgusting. Yeah, he eats
it and he was he Seth Green was like, you have the first one.
I want to see something and he just watches and it just comes out
of his neck. It's fucking gross. So he duct tapes the neck together,
like I I can fix that and get the duct tapes it and everything,
and I like that. For the rest of the movie, he's doing
the Michael Keaton Batman thing. Oh yeah, I mean he's committed. I
love he never actually turns anyone. He just kind of does this like,
h hey, it works. He's committed. So then they decide to go
to the dance and help him because they don't feel like hearing him do a
speech because he's about to do a speech about how he needs a better himself
and like, no, let's just say this might have been more inspirational to
me because like some stuff I've written, it kind of makes fun of scenes
like that. I'm like, man, I must have taken a lot from
Seth Green. And this, uh, they almost killed Tippy. They back
up on her. She flies, She fly like it's oh my god.
And then there and then I just call him Jack knows Worthy. I can't
remember. Okay, Yeah, he gives her mouth to mouth to wake her
up, the way that he looks like, he goes like and then he
like, he's he's so weird about it, but then he's he's really more
concerned about his forward. Yeah, they steal the forward from him, he
steals they steal his baby. Yeah, we've got to mention he had two
friends at the bowling alley who exists because they're about to get killed in the
next Yes, and they're in like full kiss makeup. Yeah, he's like,
don't you guys have to go to the dancer. They're in the kiss
makeup and I have a very important note here. It's all calves, boobs,
boobs. Yes, oh the boobs are great, which I forgot like
that they had like that level of dudity in this oh yeah, and also
on the commentary track, the boobs are natural woo. So they say,
oh, so this girl's kind of this is a whirld where everyone's oblivious.
She doesn't notice that three hands are rubbing her like the they rolled down the
window because it's getting hot and her makeup smelting off, and then the hand
crawls up. Yeah, and again she doesn't notice their three hands. She's
like, ah, scary, and then it like chokes her. And then
the guy it like slams and then like the hand slams his head against the
car window and then he just like exploses him to jam. Yes, and
then they show up, but I think they see the aftermath of Yeah,
they like open the car door and he like falls out. So yeah,
I have it here. The Halloween party looks awesome. Oh yes, way
cooler than the Buffy A party at the end, uh, and Jessica help.
His dance is less awesome. She's got like a weird dance. Good.
She's like doing some type of boss like she looks she'd fit right in
at like a like like a golf club. Yeah, oh I love it.
I love that Anton is searching for the hand. The guys end up
just dancing. Yeah, because the one Panub thinks he's gonna get it on
with Tanya the Devil. Uh, he thinks he's got a chance with her.
Also the Offspringer there, yes, the Offspringer hanging out there a cover
by the remote The song one of these yes by the remotes, which is
it's on. And then, for some reason, the principal decides the best
time to call a sex hotline is at the school dance in your office at
night. The best time to get off is when kids are in the cafeteria.
Yeah, and I love. At first, you don't know what he's
doing. He's like, I want to call your supervisor. Of course my
card works. And then he's like, okay, it worked. Okay,
he's like, what's up, baby, it's weird. And another one he's
like, I feel like I can feel you. He's like, it's like
I can feel you touching me. It's like because I'm like i'd be like,
oh my god, there's something on my legs. No, literally,
like the fuck is touching me? Yeah, the hands starts crawling up his
leg. I can feel you touching me, and then off and then yeah,
grab and twist it. That's all I can think about when that video.
But yeah, then the hand grabs him and and then this is when
it files. It's I love that scene. I think it's really creative.
And it looks nasty, like it's gross, Like the hand is ichy,
like it's gross. I like it but yeah, it files the snails,
and then Defie shows up and confronts Antone because he doesn't know the hand's gone
yet. Yeah. Well, yeah, she's been holding his book the whole
time, and you're like, oh, I wonder what the exorcism is going
to be and the book just holds a Dagger's like, okay, I got
to kill you die it dies. That's so funny, and I just love
it. It's just a book that just holds a knife. It's so funny.
You were expecting like, yeah, it's just a knife. It's so
funny. So they realize that the hand's gone they need to work together to
find it. Yeah, and then jack is like, you have a girlfriend,
like that's what he Oh oh oh, I wrote this was where is
it? Where's it? Where's it? Oh? I love this line that
Jackson that Randy says you evil hosting fu stick. Oh yeah, I love
that. So the rest of this movie apparently takes place in six minutes,
and I think it's way longer than six minutes, because they're like, we
have a because yeah, canonically or like actually, like no, no,
it's in the movie. It's supposed to be in six minutes, but I
feel like the run time is longer than Okay, that's because I'm run because
they say like it's going to try and take a soul to hell because it's
in like Druid at midnight, and it's like, okay, we got a
few hours and he goes, no, drew ad time, that's six minutes
from now, And I'm like, I would have said like twelve or something,
because it does not feel like six minutes. Well, you know,
maybe we're wrong. I'll look at the time and see if we're right.
Maybe this whole rest of the movie is in six minutes. The hand goes
full carry and just kills people, and that it rips a guy's like scalpel
Oh. Yeah, the lead singer of the Offspring gets scalpl yes, which
is awesome, And it's just trying to get to mally uh. And they
decide to escape in the vent system, which the events in these movies are
only so big. Yeah, the events are huge. Look, I one,
I don't know why that fan was there and white. It looks like
that. I don't know. I wouldn't trust the shoe in that fan.
Also like that, I mean, that's like a party city costume, like
those are party city heels, right, Why wouldn't you put like the other
shoe in there to stop it? I will say, like it was kind
of like it's an innovative idea. Yes, like it, Okay, like
it, and it almost works Like Jessica Avil gets out, Tany is about
to get out. Well, she hesitated, so she did, and the
hand gets her, holds her back into the fan and just splatters her like
a three. Yeah. I the only thing I wish this kill had more
blood. Yeah, it feels like actually it's bloodier than I remember, but
it does feel like they tone down some of the blood. Like there's like
I don't like, I don't mean like I don't want I didn't I don't
mean like I war girl, but like covered in blood, Like, but
I would like a little more if it feels like there was more and they
just trimmed it down. There's like a tiny like literally the smallest bit,
like she gets shredded by an industrial fan. Yeah, there's gonna be a
lot of blood. Yeah, and then uh, when you see the aftermath,
there's a lot of the remains of times we've got up pub and Mick,
fine, go back and get a piece yeah, and he's like he's
like, I'm gonna get a piece of I don't want to go back.
I don't want to go through all this time. Anton almost gets the hand,
who's now in a puppet. Oh yeah yeah, it's really creepy.
But the boys stop him on accident because they fall out of the ceiling.
Oh. He's like, who's your dadding out? Yeah? Oh. The
the school set is some of the rooms. I think the art room is
also the same set from Party of Five. I haven't watched Party of Five
and Jennifer Love Hewitt. Yeah, Jennifer Love Hewick got a spin off show
that I think only last one seasons. Just something from the commentary track there
you Go. Where are my Party of five fans? At? I want
to get me peas in the chat if you're a Party of five fan.
So eventually the hand gets Molly on a car on a lift and it's going
to crush her into a pentagram and I guess that'll get her soul or something.
Yeah, it's like the yeah, yes, uh, And the dudes
are fighting with the hand, which again is still wearing a puppet. It
hasn't let go of the puppet way and the puppet's face can change expressions,
which doesn't make sense. But yeah, so they decide they need to get
high mighty Joe Bong yes, to get strength, and I do like that
they ripped Essalvas out at all. Oh yeah, because in the test screening,
the everyone's like majority of the like the request was. My favorite part
was the titty part. That is what they said. That's the quote,
so they like people requested like more more. Jessica Alba I would have done
the same thing, and I completely agree, and not like in Machete where
she was wearing gunder wear and they digitally put skin on her. No.
Yeah, yeah, anyway, Uh, they end up getting the hand high,
which doesn't She's like, it's like, I'm dying. You're getting stoned
with your friends. She's so offended. It doesn't make sense, doesn't make
sense that the puppet's eyes go just like now you're taking anton time. It's
so funny though, it's really funny, so funny, and so yeah,
they think everything's good now and then the hand like jumps it's like yeah,
like the no, well, the hand like, oh, the hand jumps
at them. Debbie comes in with the dagger. It hits Seth Green and
then the hand just wiggles a little bit and just poofs and then Seth Green
points out it's like no explosions, no hell fire, nope. And then
Debby goes, okay, now I have to have ritual sex. Now,
time for the ritual sex. And he's like, okay, cool. But
I believe Seth Green's line is a reference to the o G ending because the
ending is the original ending was set in the school pool and it had it
was like it's been recorded, like it's oh, it's cool. Yeah,
you should see the original ending it sex. Okay, it's like it's hell
fire. It's the pits of hell open up at the pool. It's insane.
Like they're on a diving board, like they're like the hand is like
cornering them off the dive of diving board. Okay, Like it's kind of
like insane. Why didn't they use that? I don't remember, Like I
I genuinely don't remember. Okay, what the reasoning was behind why they were
the effect finished? Is this a Blade scenario where I don't know if you've
watched our Blade episode where the original ending up Blade looked like shit, I
mean the the when I mean, the effects aren't finished on the scene,
but like a lot of them are. Okay, I can see where like
maybe if the budget's running out there like we got it might have been that.
I genuinely don't remember. But by the way, I think this is
way funnyious? Is this a way better that? It just proves that line
I believe is a reference to the original ending. There's that? So then,
uh, what for God? They accidentally kill Anton? They crushed him?
Yeah, they crush him. Yeah, he was like that was supposed
to come down a lot slip that. Yeah, it moved up so slow
and then it came down crashing. So funny. But then they decided to
go to heaven. Yeah, they asked Anton if he wants to come,
and then flash forward Anton decided to stay. He's in a full body cast
and then he has sexy Usca Alba and a little dress feeding apple sauce,
and I love that they think he's going crazy because he's seeing Mick and Pinob
as angels and by the way, the shittiest angels, Like they went to
party City and got the little kid angel whips and then like in the background
there's Santarea by Sublime playing yeah, and they're like, we're here to make
sure you don't go back to your slacker ways, and because that was the
we forgot to imagine he was so lazy in the hand, can only possess
the laziest post like yeah, So uh, they're like okay, So she
leaves and they're like, hey, we're gonna go do something. And then
of course he looks up at the ceiling and it says, I'm under your
bed. Yeah, and it turns out that they did it and they're just
being dicks there. And then they're walking off and they're like you want to
go walk through a nurse's And then the movie ends and it is a good
time. It's one of those like now now that I've rewatched and I'm like,
I want to watch this more often. This This is a fun like
put it on the background movie. Something interesting is always happening, something funny
is always happening. Yeah, it always gets I mean I always laugh at
this movie if I'm in a bad mood. Like it's just it's like I
said, I I forgot most of the movie and then as soon as I
put it on it all came back to me. Yeah, and it's really
clever. It's really fair, and like I said, it's it creatively finds
ways to be lazy. The lazy writing, but the plot contrivances, it's
like they're doing this on purpose. Just exactly funny. Yeah, and I
had a really, really great time revisiting this same any final thoughts, I
set all my thoughts. I just was really happy to talk about this movie
because I love it. I wish I knew more about the behind the scenes.
Maybe I'll pray to the devil and sell my soul to get an interview
with the director. Oh my god, Sarah, it's now weeks later,
and my deal with the devil work. We have the director of Idle Hands
here. Introduce yourself please. Hi, I'm Rodman Flander, and you made
a deal with the devil to get me. Yeah, you wasted your deal
with the devil, dude. I mean, should I have asked for something
bigger than an interview with the director of Vital Hands, Like should I have
like try to conquer a country or get wealthy? Yeah? I mean,
do you have like an ingrown toenail that you could have taken care of?
You know? I mean there are about a billion other things you could have
done. I mean, and now your soul belongs to what Diesel Bob for
all eternity. Right, So yes, yes, I think it's worth it.
I think it's worth it. So I hope I can make it work.
It worth it, I hope. So you are Rodman. I am
Rodman. That's me. You never introduced, you introduced yourself, and you've
made fun of me for the I'm sorry. Yes, I'm Rodmin Flander.
Robin Flander directed Idle Hands, among many other things. That's me. Okay,
So yeah, we have some very important questions about this film. My
first question is how did you get attached to the project. Idle Hands had
been in development and it actually had a couple of directors before me. There
were two that I know of before me, And and you know, it's
it's a peculiar movie with a peculiar tone, and uh no one could really
sort of come to an agreement Cass on what that tone was going to be.
Some people still can't come to it. Some people still think the tone
is not consistent. I don't know, but I pitched a take which the
execs at Columbia Pictures seemed to like, and they let me do it.
I had also because they had creative differences with the previous director, and it
was you know, the train had almost had just about left the station.
Devin had already been cast, and I think they needed someone who had proven
he could work quickly and having done you know, I came from the Roger
Corman school, Rogers my mentor, and having produced and directed movies in fifteen
days and also having done television you know you OC and other kind of teenage
themes, shows that have a very tight schedule six seven days, I had
proven that I could work very quick and efficiently and on time and on budget.
So they took a chance, and there you go. Yeah, I
guess, Sarah, do you want to ask your question here? I guess
we'll go down the line the questions you had. Yeah. Sure, sure.
So this was a good question that I was super excited to ask you
about because the first time I ever watched it, I immediately thought of this.
So the lighting in the movie I absolutely love. And I'm also a
huge Dario Argento fan, love Suspiria, love that movie and correct me if
I'm wrong. But when I was watching the listening to the commentary track that
you guys do over the film. You had mentioned that a lot of the
lighting was inspired by Dario and Suspiria, and even I believe one of the
kills, or I believe when it gets the plastic bottle, not plastic glass
bottle all the album, the one you have is plastic plastic, Yeah,
the glass bottle, it was it was plastic. Oh you heard it here,
folks. They didn't shove a glass bottle. It was like I believe
it was like a shot for shot reference to like TENEBRAE. But I that's
just from what I remember hearing. I was just I found it really interesting
that a horror comedy took inspiration from Dario Argento, and I just kind of
wanted to hear you talk about your influence from him and his movies and what
made you decide to put some of that into this movie. Though the even
though it's like a horror comedy, how much time do you have? Urgento
is a huge influence. And I guess that maybe speaks to my my approach
to comedy, which is it you kind of have to take it seriously even
though it's comedy, if that makes sense. Like an example I give when
I've when I've taught this is like the Marx Brothers, right. I don't
know if you guys have seen any old Marx Brothers movies, but when you
know, grout Show is doing his stick and everyone around him is horrified,
it's hilarious. When Harpo is doing his stick and people are like laughing at
him. I never found that as funny because they're acknowledging within the movie that
it's a joke. So I think when when I, when I ever I
do comedy, I always you know, my my direction to the actors is
always, you know, you have to play this as if it's really happening.
I don't want you winking or shticking it up in any way. So
my approach to performance was the same as my approach to lighting and camera work
and and everything else. I mean, this, uh, it was a
nutty movie and a crazy script that had these kills. And you know our
Gento and and Di Palma, and I mean there are these are the masters
of of camera work and shot making. You know, Luca Fulci's got to
do great ones. I mean, you know, the list goes on and
on, but basically I think that speaks to more my personal approach to to
comedy which is no one involved in the world of the film should know they're
in a comedy, right they the people should think that they're in a horror
movie. And Christopher Baffa my Ace DP, who you know, has been
hours and now was a TV A great work, you know, I told
him it was sort of Also my direction to him is like, you know,
I want to shoot this like a Dario Argenta movie. And we looked
at Tannebray and Suspiria and a few others. So that does that answer your
question? It does. I wanted to share you talk about it a little
bit more because the first time I saw I immediately was like, I wonder
if this I wonder if he's this is like Dario Argento fan, because I
immediately was seeing the the inspiration and I was very happy to find out that
that's that that was true. So I just want to kind of want to
hear you speak about it a little bit more. So, yes, oh
yeah, yeah, very true. And and I mean, you know,
if you're a physical media collective, yeah, you know, a golden age.
I mean I remember, you know, my poster but somewhere my first
copy of of TENEBRAE was very ugly looking vhs called unsane it it didn't even
have the tenebray title on it, and it was it was cut up and
bad. But now, I mean, you know, you've got like what
eight different beautiful blu rays to choose from, with the Italian version, the
American version that you know, whatever, the version that was sent into space.
It's a fantastic time. Yeah. Yeah, I like physical media.
I don't know if you noticed the store back here with all the tapes of
one. Yeah, I have to check out. I have to see if
you have any of my movies. Although I learned early on that as a
director, never asked for your movies in a video store. My wife and
I had honeymoon in Ireland, and many many years ago, I had just
done my very first movie for Roger Corman, was called The Unborn, had
a European home video distribution. So I found this video store in Dublin and
I went in and I just I didn't say who I was, and I
just said, did you have to have a movie called The Unborn? And
I'm gonna I apologize to all the Irish people because I'm going to mutilate the
accent. But I remember the woman looked at me and she said, oh,
we had it, but we sent it back. It was rubbish.
Tony, I'm not going to ask if you have the unborn back there in
your store, but you know, I don't have the unborn. I think
I have the two thousand and nine unborn somewhere. But but you know what,
I'm going to order the unborn right now. Oh my goodness, I'm
gonna have the unborn. Uh Eat Brains, Love Will be There, which
I actually watched recently and I really enjoyed. But let's get back to Idle
Hands. So you kind of answered the one question. Also, Sarah,
thanks for skipping to the very last question instead of the first one. That
was great. Didn't throw me off at all. So this film has gained
a cult following over the years. What do you think it is about Idle
Hands that resonates with viewers and keeps them coming back to it? Well?
I would ask Sarah that question, since she's the viewer who keeps coming back
to it. Sarah, I mean, yeah, wait, did you a
question for yourself? What is that? I Actually I'm just as curious as
Tony is. I mean, so, Sarah, what is it about the
movie that makes you keep coming back. I mean, I mean as a
as a I mean as a music lover. The soundtrack is banging. I
love the soundtrack. I listened to it religiously. I love practical effects,
so and I mean I love I mean, the makeup is astounding. I
mean, I'm going to college for special effects currently, So I like,
I love it, and I I love I mean, I love a good
horror comedy, stoner movie, and there's I don't really think there's many of
those, So to have one that I like, it's it's kind of my
own little thing, and I very much enjoy it. Well. That means
a lot. And thank you for mentioning this the soundtrack as well, because
as you can see these records, I mean, I'm a I'm a you
know, the music meant a lot to me. I know some directors just
sort of you know, higher composer and music supervisor and walk away. But
you know, to me, the music is as important as casting or you
know, camera work or anything else. It's it's part of the whole thing.
And I think the fact that you're talking about, you know, the
the practical effects, you know, in a CG world that we live in,
I think, I do think it's refreshing, and I do hear that
a lot. And with the movie that I did, you know, right
before the pandemic he Brains Love, I was very insistent to only use practical
effects, no CG. Blood because blood and fire they never look good to
me, do they when they're generated. I get the practical reasons why,
because like CGI, fire is safer. I get blood. You don't have
to clean up as much, but it's better. Yeah, if you're able
to do it practically, it makes it works. Or if you can't do
it practically, rewrite Yeah, yeah, Okay, it all starts on the
page. So if you if you write the house burns down, but you
can't afford real fire, you know, either you figure out another way,
or do a creative way of shooting it using lighting, or you know,
thank you for many solutions. Thank you for saying that, because we reviewed
a movie this month where I said the same thing, where I was like,
you know, this probably sounded good on paper, but you didn't have
the pudget for it. You should have rewritten this scene. But yeah,
you kind of skipped ahead and answered the music question there you literally answered the
next two questions randomly, Well, I feel like we could go in a
little bit. Okay, thanks a lot, to see you later. Remember
to like comment and subs. Before this review, I hadn't seen the movie
in a really long time. I watched it when I was younger, and
I remember liking it. And then I was in a video store in Ireland
and I asked the girl if she had idle hands. She told me it
was rubbish, and I was like, oh, you know what, it
probably wasn't very good. Uh no, I'm kidding, that didn't happen.
But now when I rewatched it for this review, and I'm like, I
forgot like one, I remembered pretty much the entire movie, which is rare
for a movie I haven't seen in a long time. And then I didn't
realize like how influential was like the how you did the whole like tongue in
cheek comedy there, we're like the characters are kind of like saying the obvious
stuff, like my favorite thing is Vivic a fox. She's just like exposition.
It feels like and we theorized in the episode, probably not true.
I'm like, I felt like they just wrote a character in later on to
just explain what's going on. So the audience is up to speed because all
her scenes she shows up and she's like we gotta do this, this,
this, this and that and that and that. Okay, next scene.
I kind of like how funny it was that it's just like, hey,
we know this is an exposition scene. We're just giving you a lot of
information real quick. For the screenwriters Terry Hughes and Ron Milbauer, if they
said, Okay, we need an exposition character, hopefully we made it fun.
And I think, no, it is. It is knocked out of
the park because sometimes there are movies where they're like write in a scene for
like very blatant exposition, and it's kind of annoying because you could tell like,
oh, they probably thought the audience couldn't figure out what's going on.
But I like it's almost so much on the nose of this movie. It's
really comical. Uh, she's like one of my favorite parts. I have
a theory. I have a theory that you know how like in movies now
you know, because we all text, that's like the main communication is texting
and now, and so in so many movies they depict texting with like the
bubbles that pop up on the screen like someone of me. So I have
a theory you heard it here first, that texting in movies is what headlines
used to be, like in old movies from the thirties and forts that have
the spinning headline, and that would be your exposition. Now it's a text
on screen that says, you know, Sarah and Tony can't get rid of
Rodney flind or whatever. You know. Yeah, it's kind of exposition.
It's kind of like how search engines got rid of the microfilm in movies when
people used to go to the library with micro films. Now it's all which
is funny because they did that in Freddy Versus Jason. I'm like, I
think this is the last time a movie used microfilm where people are looking up.
So so, horror comedy often relies on timing and tone. How did
you work with the cast to ensure that comedic elements and the horror elements were
perfectly balanced in the film. Do you think they're perfectly balanced? I mean,
I'm glad you do, because it is. That is a very very
very tough tight rope to walk. I think it's one of one of the
toughest and you know, I can count on on two fingers what I think.
You know, the movies that just nail it, you know, Sean
of the Dead and maybe you know Aberd and Castellowie Frankensteiner. So you know
that's uh and yeah, so how did I do it? I just did
my best. Really. I think it starts with kind of how I answered
your your question earlier about no one in the movie thinking they're in a comedy.
I mean, you know, everyone kind of playing it straight. And
you know, you know Devin everything that he does, he is he is
like genuinely terrified in the movie of what's happening to him. He's not.
And we had conversations about this because you know, it's it's physical comedy,
and you know, we talked a lot about like the physical comedy of Jim
Carrey for example, which I love Jim Carrey and he's a genius at it,
but that approach just wasn't appropriate for you know, it's appropriate for ace
Ventura when mask, but not necessarily what I wanted to do with this teenage
gill. Also, you know, Jim Carrey was a well known comic actor,
you know, with idle Hands, it was very important to me that
you know, they, as I said, play it straight or scared.
You know. So when when Devin is reacting with this, with this possessed
hint, he is genuinely terrified. And I asked him to play that way
and he did. He did it better than I could have imagined. So
it all kind of harks back to that kind of this my uh philosophy of
of sort of playing it, playing it straight and letting the humor kind of
grow out of that makes that makes sense? Yeah, sorry, I was
speaking of characters that like don't know they're in a comedy or whatnot. Jessica
Alba's character, we were very we were We're just like, wait, is
there a deleted seed where like there's a backstory where she got hit on the
head or something. Because I'm like there's a lot of real obvious things happening,
like when his hand he's like clearly choking her. Then he ties up
his hand and she's like, oh you're kiky. I'm like, who why,
No, that doesn't ben? I love it. I love it.
It's so funny. No, but yeah, I love how kind of like
out of like she's just like, oh, this is just he's just quirky,
and I'm like, no, he's clearly different. So yeah, that
was really fun, uh watching the whole time, seeing her character throughout the
film just not really know what's going on until the very end. Well,
audiences today react to that very different. I mean, it's a movie of
its time, you know, I mean it's a nineties movie, and the
twenty twenty audience the sarah, I'm glad, I'm glad you're getting a kick
out of heat because it's just, you know, times have changed, and
it's it's a questionable whether or not that tone you know, works today,
So I'm glad you dig it. It does by the way it does.
It's it's hilarious. It's still it's all let me see here. Oh,
getting back to effects, I will say, like the few like digital like
effects in the film, and like the green screen stuff are really really well
there, seamless, and they really like Yeah when watching it today, like
the blade going through his neck and everything, like, wow, that looks
better than some movies I've seen recently, So shout out to that. I
guess this one. Do you have any interesting anecdotes from the set or memorable
moments while filming Idle hands that you like to bring up. Oh my god,
that was a bit. It's a while ago. Let me let me,
let me leap proud back to what you previously said that about the about
the the CG effects or I mean, I don't even think they they I
don't even think they were computer generated. I mean we we used a rig
called a motion control rig, which is tied to a computer, which allows
you to base create kind of a moving plate. Oh yeah, a camera
move and the computer records the move and then and then it replicates the move
exactly, and then you can sort of paint out whatever. And obviously,
you know, we did that with the scenes of the crawling hand where it
may even be on the on the Blu ray of the DVD. You know,
we had obviously the entire actor going across the screen, and then we
repeated that with the blade in the neck. Everything. Nothing was purely computer
generated, right, Everything was tied into something practical, So I don't I
don't remember the specifics, but for you know, for example, I mean,
how I would do that, you know, someone's getting their throat cut
or something. You know, we would have an actual prosthetic, a piece
of makeup. Sarah you know that that we would film and then would use
camera tricks. We didn't really have computer graphics, but we would. We
would use green screen or whatever we had at the time too, you know,
cover the zipper as it were, you know what I mean. It's
uh, just just sort of blended and and erase kind of things you wouldn't
want to see. Nothing was nothing was purely created in a in a computer.
It was more about, like you know, either green screen or taking
out what what you didn't want to see. And I basically gave you that
long winded answer as I tried to think of funny anecdotes from the set many
years ago. Hmmm, let me come back to that. You know,
it's been so long and and I have fond memories of the experience. It
was, you know, it was it was stressful and uh, but in
terms of anecdotes while shooting, well, you got me there. You don't
have to ask, you know what. Okay, here's something I brought.
I brought my son. I brought my son to the set. He was
two or just under two years old at the time. I'm and uh,
I remember thinking on the prop table was pinub Elden Henson's decapitated head, and
I thought, oh my god, you know, my boy is going to
see that. And he just went up to it and pointed to it and
said, boom boo. Yeah, that's a boo boo. That's a big
boo boo. That's a sweet memory I have speaking of the elden head like
the Pinub's head. So I saw it. I saw it out of like
a I saw like a prop photo of it that was like a few years
old, like someone was like selling it or something. But like, what
what like was it like mechanic? Like what what was it? Like?
What like the because there's shots where it's like, yeah, there was physic,
like a physical head, and then there's shots where it's like a CGI
like face on the head. Right, we did all of the above whatever,
you know, whatever the shot dictated. All of those special effects shots
were storyboarded. They were heavily storyboarded, so we knew exactly. I knew
exactly how I wanted to shoot it and what I wanted to see, which
was instrumental, you know, in terms of talking to the editors and the
special effects people. In Greg Cannon Academy Award Winner Greg can Great, The
Great Greg Cannon built those those heads, and there was right, there was
a mechanical one that had servos with that the mouth talked and then other times
I think, I think, I think we obviously used those in the wider
shots. It's all coming back to me now as as Seth Green is throwing
the cheesy poops into his mouth when he's on the couch, that was a
mechanical I had known when we went for like a closer shot of him talking,
and we you know, obviously needed to feature his face. That was
again a kind of primitive face replacement technology. So it was a little of
everything. Okay, cool, interesting, nice, Oh here's a funny story.
Okay, so uh, one of the cops after he trying to remember
which which of the two actors it was. But you know, they get
fried, you know, they get they have pretty they get fried pretty bad
makeup. And he I remember, he told me he went. He drove
home on the four or five freeway for those of you who know Los Angeles,
you know, bumper to bumper in full makeup. And I think he
had a convertible and would just like I went to the people like, oh
my goodness, I can I can bad day I felt that I had to
drive home after a convention with like full face Mick makeup. I had the
bottle in my head and oh yeah, I had to get gas in that
one time too. That's great town. I've done that. I've done that
a couple of times where you just it's just like it's easier just to keep
the costume on and keep the makeup on. Yeah, what scene or moment
in Idle Hands are you particularly proud of and what made it special or challenging
to create that? You know, I should have watched the movie before doing
this podcast is uh, you know, I did see it last year.
You're in Pennsylvania, Tony. The Mahoning drive in showed it. Actually,
Yeah, so shout out to the Mahoning And I did go and see it
at the drive in, and it was it was really just rewarding to see
what what scenes still worked and what scenes played, you know what, I
guess I'm first of all all the performances, just delighted with the performances.
The three guys are just fantastic. I think maybe the finger sharpening in the
pencil sharpener was a gag we'd come up with him try to figure out how
to do, and it was tricky, and I think that I think that,
you know, because I still I really like pencils, So I think
that I think that have props standing by I think that I think that turned
out really well. That's something I'm really proud of how that turned out.
Uh, you know what, I'm just so I'm just so delighted that decades
later, you guys are talking about it and your you're fans of it,
and Sarah you're dressing up as a character. I mean that just I can't
tell you how much that means to me, because it's you know, I've
talked about this far too much, but it had a very troubled release upon
its release, and it and it and it got kind of swept up into
this whole kind of political ship storm with the terrible school shooting ACCU. We
mentioned that in the review because I remember earlier in the review I talked about
how like when I was younger, and like when I was a kid at
the time, like I remember seeing advertisements for this like before the movie came
out, like everywhere, and then it just kind of like disappeared, and
then I just happened to find it on cable the one night like a few
years later. But yeah, I remember it being like super advertised and then
just gone and then and then it was gone. Yeah. Well, weren't
the only movie affected by that, by the way, because I know,
like Screen three had to do like a ton of rewrites after that whole thing.
Yeah, no, that still happens, I mean with the and my
my heart always goes out to people who are affected by things in the news
because out of their control, thousands of people were hundreds of people, you
know, work on these work very hard on these movies, and yeah,
they kind of swept the release of Idle Hands under the carpet, and I
guess it's a good thing they did, because look, there have been no
more shootings since, right, I mean not that I know. I don't
watch the news, so I'm out of the loop. But anyway, because
that was such a you know, difficult and painful experience, and you know,
I kind of moved on very quickly after that. The fact that,
like I said, all these years later, they're showing it at the Mahoning,
and they showed it also this year at the at the New Beverlely.
Quentin Tarantino's thirty five milimeter only theater here in LA and you know, it
pops up and I can see, Sara, You've got the beautiful screen Factory
release they put out that, you know, more than any like one particular
scene or one thing, you know, the fact that that is happening now
and in twenty twenty three, that makes me really happy. That just warms
my heart. One question I had the fan death was that originally going to
be more gory? Like were we going to see or like go into the
fan and chunks everywhere? Is it gonna be more blood? You know what?
That was one that I really wanted to play around with sound, and
it was kind of like like, you know, like if I could create
something really horrible with sound, what you would create in your mind would be
much worse than any you know, meat I would put through a fan.
I thought, with just kind of enough gore that that was yeah, when
I just wanted to leave to your own brutal imagination. The aftermath is the
aftermath is gory everywhere. Make sure I listened to that. So now that
you've mentioned that, to hear the sounds. Okay, So at the time
when we shot the initial part of the review, I had not seen the
original ending, and then I watched the original ending today with your wonderful introduction
by the way from the DVD. Oh god, oh god, that's just
I mean, if this's one thing I could just scrub, well, it's
of its time. That was hilarious. I wish more people would do that
these days. My son who I mentioned, just just thinks that's like the
funniest thing I've ever done. He just loves anyway it. So I've seen
the original ending and I get it. It's not as like funny as it
should be, So I understand why you want to change it. I do.
The one gag I really liked is uh Seth Green whatnot finally showing up
with like all the hak the all the football gear and stuff after everything's already
like uh was finished. H So I get wanting to like change and whatnot,
But like, how did you come up with like who came up with
the new ending with the puppet? And who also came up with the idea
to kind of make fun of the original ending where he's all like, oh,
I was expected demons and everything, right, yeah, right, So
where did that new ending come from? Yeah? Also, what's going on
with your life. I just like, nothing, this is a what what
is this program? Stream yard? Yeah? This is how it looked earlier,
and nothing has changed in my room. So this is a stream Ard
thing. Yeah, totally a stream Yard thing. That's why I was so
surprised it looked so dark earlier. In terms of the new ending. You
know who wrote what I you know, we we certainly you know the original
screenwriters wide In Ron and Terry run No Bower and Terry Hues. Oh and
you know you're really asking me to look. I can't remember where I left
my keys, Okay, so trying to remember who wrote what gag? That's
like way on my mental capacity right now. Maybe if I if I,
well were you like? But we knew the main thing was we knew we
wanted it to be funnier, we wanted to be lighter in tone. And
after test screenings, I mean, people just loved the whole weed angle before
It's time. So you know the idea of you know, this this crazy
bong and the and the hand getting stoned in the puppet, I mean,
we knew that's where that's what the audience liked, that's what they reacted to,
and that's what we wanted to embrace exactly who wrote what it was.
You know, we were all kind of pitching out ideas and things, and
that's where we wound up. Now, did you did you know while like
shooting that ending that you weren't too thrilled with it? Or was it until
you saw it like cut together, where like everyone decided it needed to be
reshot the I mean the ending in the swim Pool. Yeah, well I
thought no, I thought it was great. I mean again, it's kind
of like what I said earlier. A lot of people, a lot of
people worked very hard on that ending, which is why I'm glad we got
to include it, even even in its unfinished state. I think for for
a movie, especially movie like Idle Hands, where like I said, you
know, we were really trying to balance that tight rope of comedy and horror,
an audience can really tell you a lot. The These test screenings are,
you know, among the most horrible, terrifying things a director can can
experience. But it's important to really, you know, see what works and
and see what doesn't. It's funny somewhere in here I still have the audience
comment cards because there was one. There was one comment that said, what
was your favorite scene in the movie, and the comment was the titty part.
I think that in the Yeah, I still have it. And then
and then the follow up question, what was your least favorite part of the
movie, the part without the titties, what the young manner? So you
know, when you get to the minute, sho you guys should have failed
that guy and how to watch every movie? God, yeah, maybe it
was Jim Narski. I don't know. It's a Jim Narski jokes. I
love Jim, but no. But my point is, you know, you
can really tell just sitting in a room with people when people are fidgeting.
You can people are going to the bathroom, or when people are really engaged
and locked into a movie. And you know, if you've got three hundred
people watching something and all three hundred say, you know, the ending felt
like a different movie, maybe you should listen to that, you know,
And I did, and luckily I, you know, after hearing that very
specific thing and then shooting the new ending and then testing it again and seeing
no one said that, you know, with the new ending and the scores
were hired, people seem to like it. It's like, okay, well,
that speaks for it. So it wasn't a question of like while shooting
it, It was more a question of of seeing, you know, what
works, and that goes for I think it's very hard to write a screenplay
without showing it to some trusted people who will tell you what stinks about it.
You don't want to show a screenplay or a movie to anyone who just
says, oh, it's great, I love it, I love it.
You know, you really want to get constructive criticism, and that's what we
got. So it was it was it was less about you know, in
the moment, thinking Okay, this doesn't really work, and more you know,
in the moment shooting and thinking, wow, this is the big epic
ending that this movie needs, and then realizing, you know, when you
cut it all together, the movie doesn't need a big epic ending. It
needs something funny and something you know, because also because the characters were so
strong. I'm glad we really got to kind of you know, focus on
characters and not just special effects. You know. I mean that that ending
like it is like you know, really special effects heavy. Uh. So
I'm glad the way it turned out. I mean I think, oh no,
the ending yeah, the ending is hilarious. Yeah. No, I
I love the way the movie ends. I love that it's just seth Green
being like, oh that's it. Okay, I thought it'd be. I
thought it to be a little bit more and then a fox it's like,
oh, by the way, we have to have ritual. Ritual. It's
like it's almost funny, like how much it's trying to wrap things up quickly,
like Okay, the movie's done, let's just wrap this up up.
That's jack noseworthy, jack noseworthy. But yeah, I guess those are my
questions about Idle Hands. Uh. I do have a few extra questions.
But Sarah, do you have anything about Idle Hands you want to say or
any questions you want to last questions? Hmmm, trying to think, Oh,
quick question for music wise. I know y'all have Shout at the Devil
by Motley Crue on there. It's a great song. I love it.
It's like, I know we mentioned this in the in the in the review
where how it's like in the movie like seven or eight times where y'all like,
I'm just curious, but where y'all just where y'all were the rights?
Like was it just hard to get that song. Were you guys just really
excited to have that because it's a great song. I just every time I
hear it, I'm like, it just cracks me up. Well, that
was sort of Jack Knows where Jack Knows worthy theme, right. I think
we used it every time he shows up, Right, It's kind of like
when he shows up shout at the Devil. So you know it was that.
That was kind of that was his Yeah, that song? Yeah,
it's his theme. Wow, what is that? I have no idea.
I'm sorry, show I'm not. This is this is this is some disco
music. It'll make total sense. I'll see a lot of times, like
after it's stum recording. Sometimes like when it prosses the video, little things
like that doesn't show up. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, that's never happened.
Hey, look, as long as it doesn't switch our microphones, I'm
fine. But yeah, the shout of the Devil thing was pretty good.
I have a couple questions outside of idle hands if you don't mind. Uh,
Well, One, here's a compliment, great job on Leprechaun. Two,
he really nailed it with that one. I actually love the Leprechaun movies
every Saint Patrick's day. I've been reviewing a Leprechan movie and I think when
I was still on Cinemascar, we did part two over there. There was
like a smaller video one. Okay, So you know there are famous film
trilogies that people get to be a part of, and I'm looking here.
You were three different characters in the Carnosaur trilogy. And I've never been more
jealous of someone in my entire life. Can you just tell me something about
the Carnosaur trilogy because I grew up watching those movies and loving them. So
the Carnisaur movies were made at Concord New Horizons, Roger Corman's company, and
I was head of production at the time. I think I was head of
production at the time of the first two, and I think the third one.
Obviously, Jonathan Winfrey directed that one. You know, he was kind
of the in house production manager, then went on to direct. You know,
we were buddies, and I just I kind of knew all the directors.
Adam Simon, who directed Carnosaur one. Adam Simon and I actually went
to college together and I did back to back odio commentaries on his movie Brain
Day. I interviewed him for his movie Brain Dead on that audio commentary,
and he interviewed me on on my movie The on Board, And in true
Roger Corman fashion, we were able to get two audio commentaries with one studio
booking. So so that was so that was Carnisour one. Carnosaur two was
directed by another friend, Lewis Morena, and Lewis very if I remember correctly,
I think I die pretty early in that right, and one of the
first few to get killed. So he's, well, look, I am
always looking for reasons to rewatch Carnosaur two. So I will check tonight and
let you know, Faller, that loser, it's probably jerking off, you
know what I'm saying. And then here's a story about Carnosaur three. Here's
a story about Carnosaur three. And then with Carnosaur three, I'm at the
time, I had really long hair and I played a military guy and the
director and Winfrey said, tom Me, Rudman, you know you're in the
Military're gonna have to cut your hair. And I said, what for one
day on Carnosaur three cutting my hair? Figure it out? So he wrote
a line in the movie. It's been decades since I but I remember he
wrote a line where someone says to me, like, you know, now
riding my jeep with that aircut son again. So years ago, my parents
tried to trick me but came home with Carnosaur two and told me it was
Jurassic Park two because I guess they didn't. I guess they forgot I knew
how to read, and I'm like, this is a Jurassic Park two.
But I ended up loving the movie. Years later, I'm like, wait,
this is just aliens with dinosaurs. No wonder I liked it so much.
But yeah, one other thing, Uh, you directed an episode of
Millennium, And I just want to say that because I love Millennium and no
one ever talks about it, so I just want to remind everyone will lineum
exists. That was a great show. It exists. It's a great show.
And uh yeah, what else do you have coming up? Like,
what are you directing next? Well, we mentioned the mention to ee Brains
Love. I mean that OCN, the sister distribution company of Vinegar Syndrome,
put out a beautiful blue ray of that. And in terms of what's next,
I'm you know, if I if I tipped my computer, my laptop,
you'd see the wall that I'm hiding that has all my projects and development
on it. What do I have? Okay, so I've got I've got
one more. I kind of bounce back and forth between teachers and documentaries.
I did a you know, documentar that got the theatrical release about Conan O'Brien
on tour. I'm currently working on another documentary about a summer resort in the
nineteen fifties that a lot of famous Broadway performers got their start at. So
that's I'm actually shooting that and editing that right now. Uh, and have
and then just trying to get you know, eyeballs on other scripts from when
I've adapted one that's kind of in the works, and you know, looking
for people with check books who want to fund my next movie. Well that's
cool. Yeah, thank you so much for doing this for us. Thank
you, this is really really great. I don't know if you're on social
so if you want to plug where we can follow you, you can right
now. Yeah, So I'm on Instagram, Rodman Underscore f uh and uh,
letterboxed and I think I'm just I think I'm just Rodman on letterboxed just
like that's it, just all right? Cool? Well, thanks for stopping
by. Well thank you and again, I really I I mean it,
I really, I really do appreciate them. The ongoing love for this movie.
It really does warm my heart. So thank you. Anyway, Sarah,
where can we find you besides roaming the streets of Tampa outside of a
convention? So you guys can find me on Instagram. That's where I do
most of my professional cosplaying. It's at reanimated dot nerd and it'll be probably
right here in assuming we'll see. Oh I thought you're dropping clips in,
aren't you the editor? Out? Take the screenshot of your Instagram throw it
in there. Yeah, I'll now be editing. Good luck. But that's
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