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Hi everyone, Tony from Hack the
Movies here, and today we're gonna talk

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about Idle Hands, that really funny
comedy you watched in the nineties and probably

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forgot about and then turned it on
again and went, wow, this is

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still really good. Today I'm talking
about tapes, talking about tapes. Here

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we are in uh CDO hotel room
in Tampa, Florida, filming on two

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go pros and a camera who knows
if any of them will last throughout the

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whole recording crossing fingers yes, on
a couch that has been very used.

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I'm gonna get I'm gonna get tested
after this episode. Yefinitely the strange woman

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who the audience is unfamiliar with.
Who are you? Properly introduce yourself?

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Properly introduce yourself right now. Hello. My name is Sarah. I am

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a professional cosplayer from Florida. Me
and Tony we've been talking for a few

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months and I dragged him over to
Spukala and we decided that we were going

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to do an Idle Hands review.
So now I am here in this strange

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hotel room, on this very strange
couch, and now we're going to talk

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about Idle Hands. How exciting.
It's the camera's not doing it justice.

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It's a pretty girl like, yeah, it's it's not it's not doing it

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justice none at all. This feels
like a twenty ten back Guy with the

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Glasses crossover. They used to do
crossovers in like hotel rooms all the time.

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Anyway, Sarah, we're talking about
Idle Hands. I absolutely adore this

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is hands. Your favorite movie,
right, it's one of my favorites.

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I love it, Sarah. This
question I'm going to ask you for the

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first time is very important. When
did you first see this movie? So?

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I first saw Idle Hands about I
think a good eight years ago.

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It's been a hot minute, Okay. I don't know why I gave such

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a specific number. I don't.
I don't know why I do that when

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people ask me, like, that's
fine, No, that's fine movies,

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I give like a very specific number. That's just how I remember stuff.

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But I had it on I got
it on physical media. Okay. That's

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probably why I remember. I got
it on physical media because I had found

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it at a thrift store, Okay, and I still had the original like

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one that i'd found and the cover
was interesting and I was like, oh,

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stoner horror comedy. I did you
not know this movie existed? I

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had heard about it, I just
had never really watched it, okay,

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And I was like, well,
I'll give it a try, and I

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watched it and I fell in love
with it. And the soundtrack absolutely amazing.

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It's good. It's good. Loved
the soundtrack, and I've loved it

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ever since. Nice. I remember
when they were advertising this in the nineties

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and when don't this come out?
Nineties nineteen ninety nine. It was right

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after Columbine. Why would you bring
that up? I actually the reason I

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bring that up. This was a
whole horrible segue. The reason I actually

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bring that up is because it actually
really ruined the money that it brought in

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the high school killing. Yes,
actually all right, so it made sense

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YouTube, okay, it made sense. A congressman actually mentioned the movie by

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name during like one of the I
guess, during some type of meeting or

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whatever talking about violence. And we've
circled back to it. But the nineties

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were pretty big with the violence and
video videos during that whole thing very prevalent,

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and the movie Idle Hands was mentioned
by name that really ruined it.

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Marketing was kind of pulled out,
which is funny because I remember the marketing

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for this movie. Yeah, it
really, it really ruined it. I

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believe it was pulled out of theaters
a little bit early. If I might

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be wrong, Okay, I might
not be correct about that information. Well,

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I hope you are because I didn't
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making of So I hope you are
right. I might. Yeah, someone

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correct me if I'm wrong. But
I do know that the even though it

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really has nothing to do with anything
related to Columbine, if there there are

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kids being killed in the dance at
the end, which is funny because we

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just did Buffy the Vampire Slayer not
too long ago. Yeah, and they

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toned down like she was originally supposed
to burn down the gym at the end

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of that movie and they changed it. Yeah. Okay, so I didn't

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know that, but yeah, I
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I thought this movie looked awesome.
Idle Hands, the touching story of

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a boy and his hand. Didn't
see it in theaters. I was a

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little young. I was seeing like
R rated stuff in theaters, but like,

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for whatever reason, I couldn't get
to that one. And then I

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watched it on cable like a few
years, like premium cable, so nothing

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cut out like a year. Yeah, a year or two later, and

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I really really liked it. I
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it. It was different than things
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funny thing is I've only maybe watched
it like two or three times in my

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entire life. See, I've seen
this movie good, maybe twenty times.

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But the last time I saw this
movie was probably before your first time seeing

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the movie. Probably it's been a
very long time. But upon rewatching it,

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I was kind of shocked that I
remembered almost all of the movie,

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Like every time a new scene started, like it scenes I hadn't thought about

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in years. I'm like, I
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will say. I love this movie. Don't get me wrong, But it's

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not it's not a it's not an
in depth movie, you know what I

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mean. But it's not trying to
be exactly like, it's not. It's

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not a it's not you don't have
to think hard to get the movie.

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It's just I mean, you really, it's a movie. You sit down,

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you get high, and you watch
it and it's easy to understand and

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it's fun. Well, I didn't
get high. Drugs are bad. Yeah,

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you shouldn't do them. And I
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I always say it on the show. Uh. Yes, you don't take

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the movie seriously, but yeah we
should probably. Well who directed this film?

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Oh? Yes, so the director
is Roden Flunder, Yeah, thunder

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Flounder Flunder, Yeah, who I
think is more of a TV guy these

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days. Yes, drink a lot
of TV. But he also directed an

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indie movie that I like, The
Eat Brains Love. Yeah, that was

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a pretty fun movie. Seventeen.
Yeah, that was a fun one.

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That was a fun one. I
know. He directed like a couple episodes

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of Screen Yeah. MTV Yes,
MTV one. Yeah, uh yeah.

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Who did he write this? Also? Who wrote it? I would have

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to I can fact check it.
I'm not sure what. No, we

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don't fact check. Think we know
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He directed it, but I'm not
entirely sure if he wrote it. Real

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quick, what's that over there?
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know who the writers are, clearly
it's Terry Hughes Burton and Rob Millpower.

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Oh you know them. The one
wrote Alpha's and the other one produced The

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Handmaid's Tale. We all know that. Yeah, we all know that.

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We never forgot that detail. Yeah, I had it written down here.

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I just couldn't. Really. We
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It's super cool. I'm sad you
missed it. But yeah, this

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movie uh stars Oh yes, so
it stars Seth Green, Elden Henson,

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Devin Sawa and Jessica Alba and Vivica
A Box Jesus Christ jess album, Oh

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Jessica album. This might have been
no Dark Angel, definitely, but this

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was like, this is my first
exposure to like a very dressed down Jessicalbut

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I was like, oh, oh
shit. And Devin Sah I believe we

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saw him today, Yes we did. He was absolutely lovely. He was

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very sweet, and you were dressed
as Seth Green today. I was you

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didn't do for the review? I
know I didn't. I didn't even have

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the poster. You had the Idol
hands poster. He could have put it

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right there. I know. I'm
so disappointing. I'm sorry. So,

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yes, they're all in it here. So at this point I was on

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board with Seth Green. I loved
him as Scott Evil. Yes, Eldon

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Hanson I wasn't too familiar with.
He's gone on to be in like Daredevil.

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Yes, in Hunger Games, Tarror
Devil and Hunger Game. Okay,

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yoh, that's right. He is
in The Mighty. Yeah, and that's

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it. That's all the movies he's
ever done and show. He's very lovely.

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I met him before. He's very
sweet. Oh wait, I remember

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another show he was in, Jessica
Jones. That's the same character from Dared

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Tel Yes, but yeah, and
then Devin Salah of course Casper Chucky TV

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TV series. He plays like five
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a priest. He's now the president. And I didn't finish last nek.

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I haven't even seen the first episode
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finish last season. I got to
get around to that. Well, watch

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it. He plays a hot priest
and I like that. I don't know

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why he had to point out that
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men of the cloth. Okay,
anyway, sorry about that. This is

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a very wholesome show. I have
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But yeah, well we'll get into
let's let's go through the movie here.

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Okay. So the movie starts off
with Fred Willard, the late Fred Willard

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Icon. I literally writ yeah,
I haven't here Fred Willard Icon. Yea,

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he is amazing. I do like
Fred Willard goddamn. Now after he

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died, I'm like, man,
that guy was so good. He was

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in so much stuff. I'm so
glad he got to be in. I

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think you should leave the best sketch
comedy show on TV rower Netflix right now.

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My condolences. So he's in bed
with his wife. They're talking about

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their son Anton. The room is
so fucking ugly in this it gives me

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a headache. The orange walls like
the floral I think it the I don't

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know there's a green somewhere. Their
whole house makes no sense. Yeah,

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their house is bizarre, really weird, and they go all out for Hallow.

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It gives me a migraine, Like
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I watch the movie, I'm like, who made this house? And like,

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I just I just hate I hate
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It is a cool house, but
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They have dummies with pumpkins on the
mountain. They go all up for Halloween.

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But they're ready to go to sleep
and then they look up and they

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see written on the wall, and
you know, it's actually funny. When

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this came on, I think I
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watching Idle Hands when I first saw
I put it on. I remember just

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seeing this scene and being like,
what is this? And then I when

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I saw like the actors, and
I'm like, oh, just the Hand

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movie. It's the Hand movie.
It's the Hand movie. Yeah, so

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I love the I'm under your bed. That was really really creepy. It's

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crazy. And then she gets pulled
under well no, no, no,

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the dad dies. She goes to
look for him. He's Deadsville. And

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then she goes to hide in her
room and she's calling for Anton. Yes,

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she calls for Anton. He doesn't
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to the room and then she dials
nine one one, the slowest you could

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ever. She goes nine one.
It pisses me off every time. And

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then the hand grabs. I don't
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like the whole bed like shape.
I don't care, but she kind of

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was asking for I don't care.
You could have hit that those numbers a

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little bit faster, like she like. But then we can introduce to Anton,

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who was oblivious to all of this. Yeah, and he is such

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a stoner. He smokes out of
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of want to does he even have
asthma? I think he's a faker.

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That's just this excuse. I kind
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I think I heard on a podcast
that one of Devin's friends has that crop

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still. But yeah, I think
it's very funny. But you know,

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he's tired, he needs to get
stoned, so he goes over to his

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friend's house. He ignores Randy on
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So Randy. So that he's played
by Jack Noseworthy. Yes, and that

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character is pretty fun. The one
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song I guess is Shouted the Devil
by Motley Crey Ray. Oh yeah,

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because he's like, yeah right.
But the thing is really funny with this

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movie. I feel like they were
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the Motley Crue song because they use
it. I believe I counted seven times

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in this movie, and I just
think it's really funny. I'll have to

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fact check that and see if I
play a Motley Crue montage. They use

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it so much in this movie.
It's comical, like it's a good song,

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but I just always think it's really
funny. So yeah, he goes

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to Mick and Panubs pinub pub.
I know, said Penub at one point.

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It's a weird day, but I
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even they think Anton is too lazy, and they're trying to motivate him,

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like you don't even know about the
dance coming up to school, So yeah,

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they're trying to motivate him. And
Anton gets a glimpse of Chessca Alba

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and she drops her book lyrics book. Yeah he likes. He's like she

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writes great lyrics and she like just
stares at her in class. I guess

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Devin is really fucking creepy in this
movie. He is so creepy. And

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I think Jessica Alba is like challenged
mentally. She's a very olade. She

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has some ship. She's just a
very bizarre like her reactions to everything.

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Maybe she's like a true crime fan. She's like really into a creepy man,

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and honestly, Actually, the funny
thing is to relate it to something

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we like. It feels like Twin
Peaks season three, where just for some

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reason, no one really calls attention
to how fucking weird Dougie is. They're

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like, oh, Tuggy, you're
acting a little bizarre day, But what

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do you mean bizarre? His brain
is like melting, He's just bumbling.

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I'm like, none of you think
this is weird. You like, come

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on, guys, oh I will. I will say this though, when

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when we were first introduced to making, I always I think it's so funny

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how intensely dyed their hair is.
Because Seth Green is a redhead. He's

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a ginger, and then I believe. I mean, I think he's also

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a redhead too, but Seth,
I mean it's freshly dyed. It is

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just dark black, and his is
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funny. It's like freshley died.
But yeah, so jessicalbu she drops,

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she drops her lyric book and then
he goes to get it. He borrows

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pinubs pants because he's wearing boxers.
That's right, that's right. So we

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gotta remember he's in and through the
window, coming through the house why the

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fuck not? Ye. He goes
to her house, but he picks up

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the lyrics book and he sniffs it. It's so creepy. It's not even

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like she was wearing this scar for
something snipped. He looks so creepy when

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he does it. Like I love
Devin Sawell, but I'm like, he

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looks character the kind of sucks.
It's kind of creepy when he does that.

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It kind of words like I would
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a man do that sniffing a book. No, I don't, like he's

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like creepy sniffing a book. I'd
be really yeah, I'm freaked out by

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what you just did. Episode over
holy shit. Yeah yeah, he's creepy.

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goes to her house and he tries

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to get away, and she opens
up the door real quick. She's like,

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thank you for my book, like
she was expecting someone to give it

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to and he he like hits her
in the tits with the book. He

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like slams her with the book and
she's like, oh okay again, not

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not going al you ask what's wrong
with you? Look kind of into it,

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and then he runs away like a
coward. He like freaks out or

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runs away and then we get the
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her. No, it's the Cure. Uh. Were introduced her as a

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nun and she's had a very holy
book and she's going into prison where they

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found this killer, yeah, killer, and she's there to exercise a demon

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in him. But then we see
his hand is all with her and she's

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like it's already gone. Yeah,
so now we know that the killer is

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out there and it's a hand,
a demonic hand, like she takes off

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her nun outfit right outside of the
hands killing spree is making a pentagram.

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Okay. The continuity of this pentagram
is so like they really stretch it,

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okay, like it barely makes a
pentagram. Like it's I mean, I

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think they did it on purpose,
yea, to like make it. I

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just I just think it's funny that
the it barely makes a pentagram, like

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they're really stretching that. But I
love it. Baget Box in this movie.

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I think I think both her and
Jack Nosworthy their characters are very they

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like they overplay their characters, because
I think their characters are one. I

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feel like they're just like kind of
pad the run time and to be just

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like what solves the problem at the
end. But given this, these small

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parts that are kind of feeling,
they do a really good job of being

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memorable. And they done it wrong, but they did it right. Now.

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They kind of have to be over
the top because the material they're given.

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And she's just like, I'm here
to kill the hand, and he's

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like, I know about the devil
and I need I exist to tell her

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where the hand is. I am
here to do a job. Yeah,

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but they do it. But they
have enough personality that it makes them stand

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out. So they're not just forgettable
characters. They're hilarious. But I'm wondering.

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I'm wondering if there was like an
earlier draft where they're not in it,

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like what that might look like.
Yeah, we need more characters.

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Yeah, yeah, like I was
running a little short. How do they

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stop the hand? This feels kind
of like it was adding and it might

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not be. It mightn't existed the
whole time. What do I know?

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I don't like some kind of fucking
writer. Now, Wow, thanks,

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you've written stuff we'll get back to
this. The cops. The cops rough

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up Anton. Oh yeah, okay, so the scene where he okay,

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I wrote like so many notes about
this scene. So he goes into with

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like this fucking chopping cart, right, and it's like all foggy because why

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not, I guess, ambiance.
And you can see where they put the

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fog machines. You can, oh, I'll show you. I'll like bring

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up a clip later editing this.
Oh yeah, sir, when you're editing,

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leave a note for yourself apparently to
drop that. I have to now

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this goddamn clip town editor. I'll
send you clip. I'll send you a

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copy. Thanks for sending yea send
me the movie. I got you personally

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because it's funny. But you can
see where they put the fog machines and

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it's just like it just copys amounts
of fog and it's just I just think

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it's super funny. And then yeah, so the the two cops that went

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to high school with Antony, they
like confront him and this and like this

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smoky, foggy all really weird because
you know about the killer. At this

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point, he was made aware that
there's a murderer. Yes, because it

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was a hand but because the felt
sine twins Yeah whatever, yeah, twins,

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they got they got iced. Yes. And there's a I know a

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fact about these cops that ties into
a scene later that got deleted and I

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only know it through my friends Ceble. We'll get to it there, okay.

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But yeah, they kind of rough
up Anton because he tries to buy

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drugs off them, though he's like
yeah, asshole. Yeah, and they

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like search his pockets even though they're
not his pants becauants, that's right.

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They take a little, they take
some money from him. They find a

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baggy even though there's nothing in the
baggy. Oh no, they smell marijuana

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and they throw the baggy on the
ground and they charge him for littering asshole

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cops. But then he goes home
and he watches Sexy Ladies on TV and

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Pamela Anderson. I don't know who
it is. It looks like Pamela Anderson,

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but it's Pig. It's it's Pig. I think that's a song.

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It's it's it's a good song.
I don't remember. I just remember he's

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watching it. It's on my Spotify, and he's making a sandwich and I

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love that he doesn't realize the knife
is just covered in blood. No,

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the sandwich just grosses me out.
It's not even the blood, it's the

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bolooney and the massive amounts of mayo
that this man puts on him, just

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being he's been so oblivable. He's
like, look, I like looking at

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boobs, but if I'm making a
sandwich, I need to see and make

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sure I'm putting all the ship on
a sandwich so nasty like a boloney and

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it tons of man. Do adults
eat baloney? Do adults? This is

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a question? Grown men eat boloney? Well, I know one crown man

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who eats boloney. And this has
brought up a lot. On my good

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friend Carl's podcast, Who are these
podcasts? But stuttering John Melendez talks about

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making boloney sandwiches and they make fun
of them all the time. They're like,

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we're kind of adult eats baloney.
That's a meal for kids. I

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got nothing against bolooney. I don't
care, but yeah, he do.

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He finally notices the blood and he's
like what And then there's like a and

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then there's a tilt. There's like
a oh, what's it called them?

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What's that angle called Dutch angle,
Yes, Dutch angle, thank you.

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I know I went to film school. I didn't get a degree, but

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I went to film school. Yeah. So there's a Dutch angle, thank

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you, and I love it and
he realizes it and then there's a shot

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of bones the cat licking an eyeball. You know, I don't like that

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scene. I turn the movie off. Yeah, I don't know what happens

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afterwards. You gotta fill in the
rest. Uh No, Yeah, I

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like that scene. So he's finally
pieces together. He's like, oh my

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god, He's like, there's a
murder in my house. Is this where

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he finds his parents? Yeah,
he finds this. Oh wait, before

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that, I love this scene where
he thinks the killers of the house and

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he like he like suits his dogge
and it's like not a dog that's gonna

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take on a killer. The dog. Also, I just I love the

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dog in this. The dog is
adorable. Ye, Like, I think

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this dog is so fucking cute.
But yeah, he literally he like sacrifices

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the dog. He like pushes this
poor dog, and then like and then

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he like goes down the No,
he doesn't go down the stairs, but

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like he like sees like a reflection
of like what is either Pinub or Mick.

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I think so it's one because they
show up. Yeah, and then

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they're they're not even worried about the
dead bodies of the parents who are now

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in the No. No, well
then well then well for then, okay,

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I know that at one point he
goes upstairs with the dog and they

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like hide under the covers and that's
super cute because it's a cute dog.

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And then he's trying to find like
the phone, and he accidentally presses the

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alarm. He gets scared, takes
off the covers, sees that I'm under

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your bed right. That's when he
goes down the stairs, trips on the

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umbrella, and then sees the dead
pair reflection, the reflection, it's something

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like that. Well, whatever happens, eventually they show up and they are

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more concerned with what's on TV.
That Yeah, they're more observed but pop

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that couchie than they are the dead. Okay, let's stop. This is

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a family chew a family show,
damn every I just want a nice wholesome

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girl on the show for once.
Sorry, there are any Mormons who want

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to be on the show, please
anyway, any Mormons go to netl City.

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So they were like, oh my
god. They're so they're looking for

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clues. They find like a rip
up piece of his shirt. Before that,

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Ellen put no bangs on his father's
to give and he's like, he's

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like, dude, that's my dad. He's like, I'm sorry, I

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saw him Baywatch. Yeah. But
then there's like a scene later on Oh

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no, no, I thought was
it an e R? I thought he

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said e R? But there is
another No, one is watch, but

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there is an another one. Oh
where Oh yeah, he's like, haven't

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you ever watched e R? Yeah? They make a lot of references to

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that. Yeah, everything nineties bay
Watch, my r. Yeah, there's

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a lot of nineties references, like
the reference. Oh that's right. I'm

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like what so I like that.
Uh. They find the ripped up shirt

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and then they see it and which, by the way, he said earlier

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he hadn't seen his parents in a
few days, so he has been wearing

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that shirt for a few days.
Yeah, also like a house, not

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concerned that his parents are just like, notice, he's so oblivious. He's

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so oblivious and lazy. But I
love that. Seth puts the shirt and

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he goes the killer was wearing your
shirt and then this was weird. So

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the glow and the dark paint finally
shows up on his hand and then the

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music kicks in the killer. The
killer was wearing me. And then I

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like the shot of Eldon and Seth. It's like a POV show. Yeah,

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I love. I really liked that
shot. And at this point from

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this movie on, like, from
this point on, I wrote because I

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was listening to the commentary track between
Rodman, Seth and Eldon, and the

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lighting from this point on is actually
really inspired by Suspiria, Okay, which

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I one of my favorite movies besides
this one. I love Suspiria. I

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loved Dario Gento. But there's a
lot of reds and greens, and some

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of the shots are like some of
the some of the kills are directly in

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like some of the shots are directly
inspired by Dario Argento films. Okay,

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I mean, when we get there, all point him out, but I

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just wanted to preface that. I
just think that's we're interesting because I would

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never expect a stone or horror comedy
to take inspiration from an Argento film.

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Yeah, you know what's funny.
The only Argento film I've reviewed was on

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Patreon. We did Opera, which
isn't even one of the really good ones.

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Yeah, I should do more Argento. I should do like review Suspiria

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and the New Suspiria, or maybe
do like the Three Mothers trilogy or Tanber

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is that part of the Three Mothers
Trilogy? I mean just Argento. Yeah,

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he makes a lot of movies anyway. Yeah, so he's and then

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they're like should I should I call
nine one one? What's the numbers?

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The number? And I start smoking
more weed. Yeah. But then he's

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in the kitchen and he confronts Mick
uh and he accidentally kills Mick. Yeah,

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with a bottle, just shoves it
right. And then that the way

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that that shot his film does apparently
reference. It's not like a referencing a

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kill from TENEBRAE. It's like the
way it's filmed is apparently like a reference

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to kill friend. When Seth Green
just opens up the refrigerator, just get

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some space, and I was acting
with the hand is really really good.

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Yeah, so I believe you probably
know this, but for you guys,

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if you don't, Devin Sawa and
the Hand once it's not on Devin Saua's

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body was played by Lord. I
cannot remember his name for the life of

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me. You're like, everyone knows
this fact, and then you go,

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I don't know the fact. No, listen, I do, but I

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just can't remember his name. His
name here, yeah, right, for

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the podcast listeners, the name was, and then I'll just insert the name

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if I remember it. So,
the guy who played a thing from Oh

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Okay, he was the guy who
played the sentient hand. But he had

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experience, oh yeah, very good
with his hands. Sorry, and I

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couldnell myself. And he also trained
like he also helped Devin Sahwa, like,

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you know, really make it its
own character. And I think it's

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really interesting because compared to a thing
from Adam's family, completely different. Yeah,

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you know, because the thing is
very you know, kind of you

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know, funny and not not this
murderous. Yeah he's not, even though

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he lives with people who probably murder, and he's not very murdered. Yeah,

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but you know, this demonic you
know, fucking hand is terrible.

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I will say him with the hand. It does remind me of Bruce Campbell

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and Evil Dead two. And I'm
sure that yeah, plate was partly yes,

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and I this was inspired by that, and I absolutely love Evil Dead

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00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:51.359
too. The decapitation for pinelb is
really good. I love it. But

405
00:29:51.440 --> 00:29:55.240
even even though like a lot of
times with like nineties kind of digital composites,

406
00:29:55.279 --> 00:30:00.920
sometimes they look a little wonky,
this one's pretty good. Actually,

407
00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:03.519
a lot of the scenes with him
in his head actually look fine. Yeah

408
00:30:03.559 --> 00:30:06.599
you know, I know, like
a majority of the movie was practical,

409
00:30:06.640 --> 00:30:10.759
but the stuff where they did u
cegi, they did a really good job,

410
00:30:10.839 --> 00:30:15.279
like for like seem like making it
look seamless. I think it was

411
00:30:15.279 --> 00:30:17.200
really good. Like, yeah,
you can see like a little bit,

412
00:30:17.240 --> 00:30:21.359
but like whatever. So he doesn't
like his hand, probably because it killed

413
00:30:21.359 --> 00:30:25.559
his friends and his hand does not
like a cat. Yeah, it's just

414
00:30:25.599 --> 00:30:30.119
like so, yeah, he's watching
TV and then he's trying to change the

415
00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:33.960
channels and he has like this.
I love the physicality Ofsawa on this movie.

416
00:30:33.160 --> 00:30:36.440
Like we talked about this a little
bit earlier. I think he does

417
00:30:36.480 --> 00:30:38.880
a great job. Tosses it all
the way to Molly's. Yeah, that's

418
00:30:38.880 --> 00:30:42.119
why he goes to Molly over there, and that prompts the hand and hand

419
00:30:42.160 --> 00:30:47.519
to go over to Molly's house and
she's like inviting him in and he's trying

420
00:30:47.640 --> 00:30:52.079
desperately not to murder her with the
hand because the hand just wants to kill

421
00:30:52.119 --> 00:30:56.319
her. Uh, And she is
super into him, even though he looks

422
00:30:56.359 --> 00:31:02.200
like he strung out and tweaking out. He looks, yeah, no,

423
00:31:02.279 --> 00:31:06.920
he looks like a method like he
If you walked in here like this the

424
00:31:06.960 --> 00:31:10.720
whole time, I'd be like you
need to leave this is this isn't good

425
00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:14.480
pat into my house? Yeah,
I wouldn't. And she's like, oh

426
00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:17.039
yeah, come on, She's like
super into it. She's like you should

427
00:31:17.079 --> 00:31:22.640
come in. Then he like starts
accidentally choking her. Oh before that,

428
00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:26.680
she grabbed He grabs her ass right, and she's like I didn't think you

429
00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:27.640
were He was like, I didn't
think you had the balls to do that.

430
00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:33.680
They would not write the character like
that these days and Hollywood film Like,

431
00:31:33.759 --> 00:31:37.640
she's just so into it. I'm
telling you, this character would not

432
00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:41.920
exist stupid in a major Hollywood film
these days that I would not fly.

433
00:31:44.039 --> 00:31:48.279
But yeah, she's very into everything
that's happening, right down to the choking.

434
00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:52.880
Like she seems taken like by surprise
by the choking, but she's not

435
00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:56.920
against it. So he finally is
like, I don't want to kill her,

436
00:31:56.960 --> 00:31:59.759
but I need to get lately.
He should be like, oh my

437
00:31:59.799 --> 00:32:02.720
god, my friends and parents are
dead. He does not, and he's

438
00:32:02.759 --> 00:32:07.480
like, but it's I'm going to
bang Jessica Alba. They have to wait.

439
00:32:07.720 --> 00:32:12.599
I mean, I get it,
it's Jessica album. I would also

440
00:32:12.759 --> 00:32:15.039
wait, like I get it.
Yeah, I like, look, I

441
00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:22.400
love my parents Alba. So he
ties up his hand and she's like kinky.

442
00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:24.440
Oh you're kinky. I'm like,
and I'm like, are you like

443
00:32:24.480 --> 00:32:29.599
you think it's kikky for him to
tie up just his one hand, like

444
00:32:29.640 --> 00:32:34.680
why not both? Why not tie
up you? Just again? Like we

445
00:32:34.759 --> 00:32:37.559
needed like a backstory where they go
like, yeah, a few years ago,

446
00:32:37.680 --> 00:32:40.200
she hit her trauma. I wanted
to be like Molly, such a

447
00:32:40.240 --> 00:32:45.000
babe. It's it's a shame she
hit her head on the diving board a

448
00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:47.559
few years ago. To explain,
like what did she go through to be

449
00:32:47.720 --> 00:32:51.680
this fuck up? Like what's her
trauma? You know? So then he

450
00:32:51.720 --> 00:32:55.200
buries his friends and his parents.
Yep. That like that's like that's when

451
00:32:55.200 --> 00:33:00.920
the lighting is very suspirisque. And
then he like he does pretty shitty eulogy.

452
00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:08.440
Yeah, but then he hears his
friends talking. They're back. His

453
00:33:08.519 --> 00:33:14.480
friends come out of the ground.
There's zombies. It's super dramatic and it's

454
00:33:14.519 --> 00:33:17.599
super cool. I love the I
love how Panub comes up headless, see

455
00:33:17.680 --> 00:33:21.359
gets super cool. It's really well
done. Yeah. And then they knock

456
00:33:21.400 --> 00:33:22.799
him over the head with the shovel, knock him out, and then he

457
00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:29.160
wakes up next morning and his bad
headphones on like nothing happened, Everything's fine,

458
00:33:29.559 --> 00:33:31.720
it was all a dream. Yeah, Solls blond of shirt doesn't notice.

459
00:33:31.640 --> 00:33:37.599
It goes downstairs. Mick and Panub
are on the couch chilling out eating

460
00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:40.119
cheetahs, and he's like, guys, I had the craziest dream. I

461
00:33:40.119 --> 00:33:45.400
thought I killed you guys, blah
blah blah, and they're they're just one

462
00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:50.240
hundred zomba vie. Yeah. Pub
is headless, yeah, eating cheetohs like

463
00:33:51.559 --> 00:33:55.279
into his mouth, yep uh.
And So I like this because when I

464
00:33:55.359 --> 00:33:59.599
first like, I forgot this is
the one part I did forget. And

465
00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:01.359
then when they said the line,
I was like, I remember how funny

466
00:34:01.359 --> 00:34:05.359
it was here in that line the
first time. But like when I before

467
00:34:05.359 --> 00:34:07.559
I rewatched this, for some reason, I thought it was gonna be like

468
00:34:07.639 --> 00:34:13.360
American Werewolf where like he's hallucinating his
friends and I had that false memory.

469
00:34:13.360 --> 00:34:19.199
But no, No, the reason
there's zombies is because they went they were

470
00:34:19.320 --> 00:34:22.800
going to heaven and they heard the
NA music and people saying come to the

471
00:34:22.920 --> 00:34:28.199
light, and then they said they
went. Now that's lame, Plus it

472
00:34:28.280 --> 00:34:31.760
was really far. That's so funny, so they went back to their decaying

473
00:34:31.880 --> 00:34:37.960
bodies instead, Like what is this
universe that you can just opt not to

474
00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:40.599
go to heaven and just be a
zombie for it? And like that's so

475
00:34:40.679 --> 00:34:46.320
funny. And I just think they
every time I'm like the weird reference I

476
00:34:47.440 --> 00:34:50.840
always caught me off guard. I'm
like, whoa, Okay. So in

477
00:34:50.880 --> 00:34:52.559
this scene, they tried to givince
them to go talk to Randy because Randy

478
00:34:52.639 --> 00:34:58.239
knows a lot about demon stuff,
because they realized that they assume yeah,

479
00:34:58.280 --> 00:35:00.320
but like I'm like, he just
likes quite right and like Molly Crue and

480
00:35:00.400 --> 00:35:05.320
his Ford, Yeah, he's a
double worsher. Randy's talking to a girl

481
00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:08.079
at the memorial for the Twins who's
in high school. Yes, oh we

482
00:35:08.079 --> 00:35:13.000
we evergot they found the Twins' ears
and like a bag of onion rings earlier

483
00:35:13.679 --> 00:35:16.960
and fun fact. I don't know
if it was during production, but a

484
00:35:17.000 --> 00:35:22.800
few years later they found out that
the actress who played like whoever, like

485
00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:28.199
Whoever that Jack knows Worthy was hitting
on they're related like their sister and brother.

486
00:35:29.039 --> 00:35:31.559
Really yes, yes, yes,
Like I wrote this down in my

487
00:35:31.599 --> 00:35:36.760
notes, like they yeah, yeah, yeah, that's awkward. Yeah,

488
00:35:36.800 --> 00:35:43.480
crying girl is Jack Know's Worthy sister? Really awkward? Now? Yeah,

489
00:35:43.519 --> 00:35:45.239
but I like that she's like crying, but like, it turns out she

490
00:35:45.320 --> 00:35:49.639
was really mean to the twins.
What did she say to that? I

491
00:35:49.679 --> 00:35:52.760
told him to go blow each other
or something. Yeah, So he's like

492
00:35:52.840 --> 00:35:55.960
trying to be there for her,
but then he kind of gets blocked five

493
00:35:57.159 --> 00:36:00.800
or something. She's like nineteen.
He gets blocked by Aunt, and he's

494
00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:04.079
very upset because he comes up to
them and he looks like he's a jacket.

495
00:36:04.239 --> 00:36:07.360
Yeah, he's like he looks like
he's jacketed, Like he looks really

496
00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:14.400
grotesque. But I like like that. Randy gets into his ford and just

497
00:36:14.440 --> 00:36:19.239
like drives over the memorial but he
was pretending to care about a minute ago

498
00:36:19.480 --> 00:36:23.119
shot shot the Devil plays once again, Yes, and then Anton breaks into

499
00:36:23.199 --> 00:36:28.320
the uh the Safari theme fast food
place dress up as one of the employees.

500
00:36:29.199 --> 00:36:31.039
He's like, put his hand at
the meat and everything, and he's

501
00:36:31.079 --> 00:36:35.519
just he just really was information for
Brandy. So Randy tells him like,

502
00:36:35.559 --> 00:36:39.400
hey, uh you got He's like, you gotta keep your hands busy,

503
00:36:39.559 --> 00:36:45.599
idle hands or the devil playing around, yeah, which is a common expression.

504
00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:47.400
He's like, that's why I'm always
on the working on the ford.

505
00:36:47.440 --> 00:36:51.440
It keeps me out of trouble.
So he takes that to heart and he

506
00:36:51.519 --> 00:36:54.000
just starts knitting. Yes, and
I will say during the during the jungle

507
00:36:54.079 --> 00:36:57.639
restaurant, what's I don't remember what
I remember, I forget what it's called.

508
00:36:57.960 --> 00:37:00.679
But during that scene, there's a
there's a cameo by Tom DeLange,

509
00:37:01.039 --> 00:37:06.920
okay from Blank. He's the blonde
one that takes over the shift. He

510
00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:08.360
so Devin saw what comes in.
He's like, oh, break break time,

511
00:37:08.480 --> 00:37:13.639
and then he takes over the counter. So yeah, that's a blank

512
00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:21.880
to cameo. And then Rob Zombie
kicks in. This is the only movie

513
00:37:21.920 --> 00:37:28.360
where you can watch a guy knitting
with zombie friends while Dragula plays dam right,

514
00:37:28.480 --> 00:37:31.199
that's why I love it. And
he learned how to knit for this

515
00:37:31.239 --> 00:37:36.119
movie. Apparently that's pretty cool.
Yeah, that's pretty cool. So the

516
00:37:36.159 --> 00:37:39.119
cops break it because they realize he's
the killer. Yeah, and he's just

517
00:37:39.280 --> 00:37:42.840
he realized like, oh wait,
I can get them to arrest me.

518
00:37:43.079 --> 00:37:45.960
Yeah, so he can't stop niitting. Cuff me and they're like stop knitting.

519
00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:46.400
He's like, no, I can't
do that. Just cuff me,

520
00:37:46.559 --> 00:37:50.400
just cuff me, just cuff me. Oh. But also before that,

521
00:37:50.679 --> 00:37:53.280
the cops are like, they realize
that there's two dead fucking people, but

522
00:37:53.280 --> 00:37:58.599
they're like talking yeah, and one
of them shoots pun ub in the head.

523
00:37:58.880 --> 00:38:00.679
Oh yeah, and he's like,
oh, we're gonna say turn yourself

524
00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:08.480
in, but fuck these guys like
assholes, what the hell? So he

525
00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:14.000
he stabs the one through the ear, which was and then he gets the

526
00:38:14.039 --> 00:38:17.239
taser and he recreates a thing for
my favorite video games, siphon filter,

527
00:38:17.320 --> 00:38:22.880
where you could just taser someone until
they like they're uh. He kills the

528
00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:30.519
cops and then what's his face goes
go go. So my friend Cecil we

529
00:38:30.519 --> 00:38:37.039
did a commentary track and the the
topic of deleted scenes came up and how

530
00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:43.000
sometimes there's like leftover stuff and apparently
that's that's the mascot. Yes, it's

531
00:38:43.000 --> 00:38:45.599
a callback because those guys were mascots, right, yes, but that was

532
00:38:45.639 --> 00:38:49.800
like cut out of the movie.
And yeah, and also because you don't

533
00:38:49.800 --> 00:38:52.440
know, like it's never also referenced
what the school mascot is. I always

534
00:38:52.519 --> 00:38:57.559
just assumed that it was the school
mascot. And then I'm pretty sure in

535
00:38:57.639 --> 00:39:00.000
just commentary tracks the Bunch, Yeah, yeah that's what he So he said

536
00:39:00.039 --> 00:39:02.599
like that, there's movies, and
I talk about this when I do like

537
00:39:02.639 --> 00:39:07.360
work print videos and stuff. It
is funny how sometimes scenes will get deleted,

538
00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:10.079
but then they'll be like remnants of
them in the final product. Because

539
00:39:10.119 --> 00:39:13.519
yeah, because my friend seesil,
He's like, I was always confused why

540
00:39:13.559 --> 00:39:15.639
he went go go Buffalo a funny
line. It's a funny line, but

541
00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:21.639
you don't know like what it refers
to or where it comes from. So

542
00:39:21.719 --> 00:39:24.519
yeah, Anton, finally, I
mean Ash figured this out pretty quick,

543
00:39:24.519 --> 00:39:28.800
but Anton it took him a while. Yeah, he's a bigger eightieth than

544
00:39:28.840 --> 00:39:31.199
Ash, to be honest. He's
like, I'm gonna cut off my hand,

545
00:39:31.880 --> 00:39:36.480
so he takes the bagel guillotine.
They're like, this doesn't even cut

546
00:39:36.480 --> 00:39:39.000
my bagels and it doesn't work.
Yeah, it's ship. This part was

547
00:39:39.039 --> 00:39:45.800
in the trailer with Seth Green going
look at me, I quote that all

548
00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:51.760
the time. Then he just gets
the meat cleaver. Yeah. I love

549
00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:55.760
think it's pinub to bite down on
his hand to keep it still or like

550
00:39:55.800 --> 00:39:58.679
before that, he turns his head
around. He's like, I can't look,

551
00:39:58.719 --> 00:40:02.119
I can't. Yeah. Yeah,
Devin saw during the with the meat

552
00:40:02.119 --> 00:40:06.199
cleaber that was a real meat cleaverer. Oh here's the rubber one. Yeah,

553
00:40:06.199 --> 00:40:07.519
And I'm like, Jesus crazy.
I'm sure the insurance guy was.

554
00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:10.559
I know she was like like,
can you give him the fake one and

555
00:40:10.639 --> 00:40:16.000
just not tell him? Just not
tell him. So he finally cuts off

556
00:40:16.000 --> 00:40:20.280
his hand and then this is the
er scene where he like he gets the

557
00:40:20.320 --> 00:40:24.679
iron and burns so happy iron.
I just love how he's so happy with

558
00:40:24.719 --> 00:40:29.400
it, and he's like, you
know, you got a car. So

559
00:40:29.440 --> 00:40:31.360
he realizes. He's like, Okay, we need to get you anisptic.

560
00:40:31.440 --> 00:40:36.880
We'll be back. And then Anton
he sees that the hand left the thing

561
00:40:36.960 --> 00:40:39.840
going like bad move, Anton,
and he's like, oh no, I

562
00:40:40.039 --> 00:40:45.840
fucked up. He finds the hand
because Molly's showing up and she's like Molly

563
00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:50.800
because they agreed to go to the
dance and Molly looks sexy. Holy ship.

564
00:40:50.960 --> 00:40:54.480
Yes, she's an angel. So
she's like, why aren't you answered

565
00:40:54.480 --> 00:40:59.320
the door? He's so weird and
she just doesn't under Yeah, she's kind

566
00:40:59.320 --> 00:41:01.119
of sucking dumb. So yeah,
he puts the hand in the microwave,

567
00:41:01.400 --> 00:41:07.000
blows it up, basically melts cross. It's really I believe in Oh,

568
00:41:07.559 --> 00:41:09.039
I don't think it's Resident Evil,
but there I know there's an Easter egg

569
00:41:09.039 --> 00:41:13.519
in a game, in a video
game where that scene is referenced. Oh

570
00:41:13.599 --> 00:41:15.440
really, I might. I don't
think it's it might not be Resident Evil,

571
00:41:15.440 --> 00:41:20.280
but I feel like whoever someone watches
this, they will know you don't

572
00:41:20.280 --> 00:41:28.159
know about it's either Resident Evil or
it's another video game. But I know

573
00:41:28.239 --> 00:41:31.239
that there is an Easter egg where
there is a microwave and there's a hand

574
00:41:31.239 --> 00:41:34.719
in there, Like it is a
direct reference. I will look for.

575
00:41:34.880 --> 00:41:37.599
Actually, that sounds like something might
have been in Resident Evil seven. To

576
00:41:37.639 --> 00:41:39.440
be honest, it's no, it's
not seven. It's not so because I

577
00:41:39.480 --> 00:41:43.760
religiously played seven. Okay, never
mind, never mind, I was wrong.

578
00:41:43.800 --> 00:41:45.960
I thought I knew video game.
I won't know it, but I

579
00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:47.320
know that it's not I will.
Yeah, you're like I don't know what

580
00:41:47.400 --> 00:41:52.000
the game is. It's like,
it's not resid seven, Like, okay,

581
00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:55.920
is it Yoshi's Island? Is that
the movie is it? Is it

582
00:41:57.119 --> 00:42:02.079
Bomberman sixty four sixty Let's say what
what? What? What video game could

583
00:42:02.079 --> 00:42:10.559
it be? Uh? Jumper Griffin's
story was a reference in Jumper Candy Crush

584
00:42:10.599 --> 00:42:15.239
anyway. Anyway, so like he's
like, what's your costume? He's like,

585
00:42:15.239 --> 00:42:19.679
oh, severed hand guy. The
guy put over his arm, his

586
00:42:20.320 --> 00:42:23.800
target bag around it. Yeah,
a target bag. Yeah. She like

587
00:42:23.840 --> 00:42:29.719
ges to touch it and he's like
no, oh yeah. So then Mick,

588
00:42:29.880 --> 00:42:31.840
so they go to the dance.
Mick and Pinelb come back and they

589
00:42:31.960 --> 00:42:37.000
let the handout and they're not too
concerned about it. Ship they got burritos

590
00:42:37.039 --> 00:42:38.800
though. Yeah, they're like,
oh whatever, burritos. They are so

591
00:42:39.320 --> 00:42:44.639
not really they choose to care when
it's convenient for that, I guess.

592
00:42:44.880 --> 00:42:46.639
Yeah. But then we finally cut
back to the Debbie plot, which I

593
00:42:46.639 --> 00:42:51.840
feel like they took a really long
break. She's at the Bowling Alley,

594
00:42:51.880 --> 00:42:54.760
which is the same bowling alley that
with The Big Lebowski was filmed at.

595
00:42:54.920 --> 00:42:59.559
Oh same exact one. Uh huh, you should do The Big Lebowski at

596
00:42:59.599 --> 00:43:01.039
some point. Yeah, that'd be
fun. And I didn't realize. I

597
00:43:01.039 --> 00:43:06.039
forgot they did like quasi sequels that
they did, like the movie about the

598
00:43:06.119 --> 00:43:07.480
Jesus. Have you seen those?
I haven't. I haven't. Yeah,

599
00:43:07.599 --> 00:43:10.760
I haven't seen them. Maybe I'll
finally watch them. I do love Lebowski

600
00:43:13.159 --> 00:43:15.119
one. Yeah, but I like
the Debbie like because again, this feels

601
00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:19.239
like a writing thing, like it's
lazy writing, but it's on purpose.

602
00:43:19.480 --> 00:43:21.559
Yeah, I feel like it's really
funny. They're like, what if she

603
00:43:21.679 --> 00:43:23.360
just gave him every detail she needs
to know right now? He's like,

604
00:43:23.360 --> 00:43:25.920
what's your story? It's like,
I come from a long line of Drew's

605
00:43:27.000 --> 00:43:30.239
blah blah. And he's like,
oh cool, I know a guy like

606
00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:32.840
he does again, I know I
doesn't question and Alway's like, you know,

607
00:43:32.960 --> 00:43:36.400
my friend said he had a messed
up in She's like, take me

608
00:43:36.480 --> 00:43:38.920
to him. It's so funny,
Like it's really I think they they act

609
00:43:38.960 --> 00:43:42.880
it just right, like they they
know what type of movie they're in and

610
00:43:42.960 --> 00:43:45.239
they sell it and I love it. So yeah. They they decide they're

611
00:43:45.239 --> 00:43:47.760
gonna hunt him down. Yep,
Anton I think he figures out that the

612
00:43:47.800 --> 00:43:52.159
hand wants to kill Molly right,
yes, because he it's like on his

613
00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:53.800
fence or something, but it says
she's mine, right right, right,

614
00:43:53.880 --> 00:43:57.679
right, coming after Molly, So
he tells her he'll meet her later.

615
00:43:58.239 --> 00:44:00.480
And he tries to convince his friends
like, we gotta do this, we

616
00:44:00.559 --> 00:44:01.360
gotta do that, we gotta save
him, and they don't want to do

617
00:44:01.400 --> 00:44:06.840
it. And they only agree to
help him with this because they just don't.

618
00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:09.440
He's about to do a speech Joe, I watched TV. I smoke

619
00:44:09.480 --> 00:44:13.159
pot No, no, no,
Kevin Constant speches, all right, let's

620
00:44:13.199 --> 00:44:17.639
just go. So I forgot that. Uh Seth Green is annoyed with a

621
00:44:17.760 --> 00:44:21.559
pinub's head and he decides to fix
it. Oh yeah, yeah, So

622
00:44:21.599 --> 00:44:23.840
he takes it, takes like a
skewer like pitchfork or sometimes yes, like

623
00:44:23.880 --> 00:44:27.400
a skewer, and he like puts
it through his head. It's really it's

624
00:44:27.480 --> 00:44:30.239
really well done. It's kind of
icky. Yeah. The sound that the

625
00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:35.000
ad r and during the scene is
yeah, griss. But then he eats

626
00:44:35.000 --> 00:44:37.519
the burrito finally. Yeah, So
he sticks it, sticks the head on

627
00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:40.719
the back on his body and then
he they microwave brito. He eats it

628
00:44:40.840 --> 00:44:45.000
and I'm pretty sure. In the
commentary track, it was like apple sauce,

629
00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:47.360
like cinnamon apple sauce, but it
looks disgusting. Yeah, he eats

630
00:44:47.440 --> 00:44:51.960
it and he was he Seth Green
was like, you have the first one.

631
00:44:52.039 --> 00:44:55.519
I want to see something and he
just watches and it just comes out

632
00:44:55.559 --> 00:44:59.920
of his neck. It's fucking gross. So he duct tapes the neck together,

633
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:01.880
like I I can fix that and
get the duct tapes it and everything,

634
00:45:02.559 --> 00:45:05.719
and I like that. For the
rest of the movie, he's doing

635
00:45:05.719 --> 00:45:10.079
the Michael Keaton Batman thing. Oh
yeah, I mean he's committed. I

636
00:45:10.119 --> 00:45:14.199
love he never actually turns anyone.
He just kind of does this like,

637
00:45:14.480 --> 00:45:17.559
h hey, it works. He's
committed. So then they decide to go

638
00:45:17.599 --> 00:45:20.840
to the dance and help him because
they don't feel like hearing him do a

639
00:45:20.880 --> 00:45:22.639
speech because he's about to do a
speech about how he needs a better himself

640
00:45:22.679 --> 00:45:29.039
and like, no, let's just
say this might have been more inspirational to

641
00:45:29.079 --> 00:45:31.079
me because like some stuff I've written, it kind of makes fun of scenes

642
00:45:31.159 --> 00:45:34.400
like that. I'm like, man, I must have taken a lot from

643
00:45:34.440 --> 00:45:38.239
Seth Green. And this, uh, they almost killed Tippy. They back

644
00:45:38.360 --> 00:45:46.000
up on her. She flies,
She fly like it's oh my god.

645
00:45:46.159 --> 00:45:51.519
And then there and then I just
call him Jack knows Worthy. I can't

646
00:45:51.519 --> 00:45:54.599
remember. Okay, Yeah, he
gives her mouth to mouth to wake her

647
00:45:54.679 --> 00:46:00.519
up, the way that he looks
like, he goes like and then he

648
00:46:01.039 --> 00:46:06.159
like, he's he's so weird about
it, but then he's he's really more

649
00:46:06.199 --> 00:46:09.679
concerned about his forward. Yeah,
they steal the forward from him, he

650
00:46:09.800 --> 00:46:15.079
steals they steal his baby. Yeah, we've got to mention he had two

651
00:46:15.119 --> 00:46:17.360
friends at the bowling alley who exists
because they're about to get killed in the

652
00:46:17.360 --> 00:46:20.960
next Yes, and they're in like
full kiss makeup. Yeah, he's like,

653
00:46:20.960 --> 00:46:22.400
don't you guys have to go to
the dancer. They're in the kiss

654
00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:27.199
makeup and I have a very important
note here. It's all calves, boobs,

655
00:46:27.480 --> 00:46:30.840
boobs. Yes, oh the boobs
are great, which I forgot like

656
00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:34.920
that they had like that level of
dudity in this oh yeah, and also

657
00:46:34.920 --> 00:46:38.599
on the commentary track, the boobs
are natural woo. So they say,

658
00:46:39.599 --> 00:46:43.400
oh, so this girl's kind of
this is a whirld where everyone's oblivious.

659
00:46:43.400 --> 00:46:46.320
She doesn't notice that three hands are
rubbing her like the they rolled down the

660
00:46:46.320 --> 00:46:51.199
window because it's getting hot and her
makeup smelting off, and then the hand

661
00:46:51.239 --> 00:46:54.480
crawls up. Yeah, and again
she doesn't notice their three hands. She's

662
00:46:54.559 --> 00:46:58.760
like, ah, scary, and
then it like chokes her. And then

663
00:46:59.000 --> 00:47:04.280
the guy it like slams and then
like the hand slams his head against the

664
00:47:04.320 --> 00:47:07.639
car window and then he just like
exploses him to jam. Yes, and

665
00:47:07.639 --> 00:47:10.000
then they show up, but I
think they see the aftermath of Yeah,

666
00:47:10.039 --> 00:47:15.599
they like open the car door and
he like falls out. So yeah,

667
00:47:15.639 --> 00:47:20.880
I have it here. The Halloween
party looks awesome. Oh yes, way

668
00:47:20.920 --> 00:47:25.039
cooler than the Buffy A party at
the end, uh, and Jessica help.

669
00:47:25.119 --> 00:47:29.719
His dance is less awesome. She's
got like a weird dance. Good.

670
00:47:30.320 --> 00:47:34.559
She's like doing some type of boss
like she looks she'd fit right in

671
00:47:34.599 --> 00:47:37.679
at like a like like a golf
club. Yeah, oh I love it.

672
00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:39.320
I love that Anton is searching for
the hand. The guys end up

673
00:47:39.360 --> 00:47:44.239
just dancing. Yeah, because the
one Panub thinks he's gonna get it on

674
00:47:44.280 --> 00:47:47.800
with Tanya the Devil. Uh,
he thinks he's got a chance with her.

675
00:47:49.519 --> 00:47:53.760
Also the Offspringer there, yes,
the Offspringer hanging out there a cover

676
00:47:53.840 --> 00:47:59.840
by the remote The song one of
these yes by the remotes, which is

677
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:04.400
it's on. And then, for
some reason, the principal decides the best

678
00:48:04.440 --> 00:48:07.880
time to call a sex hotline is
at the school dance in your office at

679
00:48:07.960 --> 00:48:12.000
night. The best time to get
off is when kids are in the cafeteria.

680
00:48:12.199 --> 00:48:14.159
Yeah, and I love. At
first, you don't know what he's

681
00:48:14.199 --> 00:48:15.199
doing. He's like, I want
to call your supervisor. Of course my

682
00:48:15.280 --> 00:48:17.679
card works. And then he's like, okay, it worked. Okay,

683
00:48:17.880 --> 00:48:22.280
he's like, what's up, baby, it's weird. And another one he's

684
00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:23.519
like, I feel like I can
feel you. He's like, it's like

685
00:48:23.559 --> 00:48:27.800
I can feel you touching me.
It's like because I'm like i'd be like,

686
00:48:27.800 --> 00:48:29.800
oh my god, there's something on
my legs. No, literally,

687
00:48:29.920 --> 00:48:31.440
like the fuck is touching me?
Yeah, the hands starts crawling up his

688
00:48:31.519 --> 00:48:36.159
leg. I can feel you touching
me, and then off and then yeah,

689
00:48:36.440 --> 00:48:39.239
grab and twist it. That's all
I can think about when that video.

690
00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:44.880
But yeah, then the hand grabs
him and and then this is when

691
00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:49.199
it files. It's I love that
scene. I think it's really creative.

692
00:48:49.199 --> 00:48:52.519
And it looks nasty, like it's
gross, Like the hand is ichy,

693
00:48:52.559 --> 00:48:54.760
like it's gross. I like it
but yeah, it files the snails,

694
00:48:55.000 --> 00:49:00.119
and then Defie shows up and confronts
Antone because he doesn't know the hand's gone

695
00:49:00.159 --> 00:49:04.559
yet. Yeah. Well, yeah, she's been holding his book the whole

696
00:49:04.599 --> 00:49:07.280
time, and you're like, oh, I wonder what the exorcism is going

697
00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:09.360
to be and the book just holds
a Dagger's like, okay, I got

698
00:49:09.360 --> 00:49:15.159
to kill you die it dies.
That's so funny, and I just love

699
00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:19.840
it. It's just a book that
just holds a knife. It's so funny.

700
00:49:19.880 --> 00:49:25.559
You were expecting like, yeah,
it's just a knife. It's so

701
00:49:25.599 --> 00:49:29.800
funny. So they realize that the
hand's gone they need to work together to

702
00:49:29.880 --> 00:49:31.480
find it. Yeah, and then
jack is like, you have a girlfriend,

703
00:49:32.719 --> 00:49:37.039
like that's what he Oh oh oh, I wrote this was where is

704
00:49:37.039 --> 00:49:39.599
it? Where's it? Where's it? Oh? I love this line that

705
00:49:39.679 --> 00:49:46.679
Jackson that Randy says you evil hosting
fu stick. Oh yeah, I love

706
00:49:46.760 --> 00:49:51.079
that. So the rest of this
movie apparently takes place in six minutes,

707
00:49:51.079 --> 00:49:53.039
and I think it's way longer than
six minutes, because they're like, we

708
00:49:53.079 --> 00:49:58.800
have a because yeah, canonically or
like actually, like no, no,

709
00:49:58.960 --> 00:50:00.760
it's in the movie. It's supposed
to be in six minutes, but I

710
00:50:01.159 --> 00:50:05.440
feel like the run time is longer
than Okay, that's because I'm run because

711
00:50:05.480 --> 00:50:09.480
they say like it's going to try
and take a soul to hell because it's

712
00:50:09.480 --> 00:50:13.079
in like Druid at midnight, and
it's like, okay, we got a

713
00:50:13.079 --> 00:50:15.920
few hours and he goes, no, drew ad time, that's six minutes

714
00:50:15.960 --> 00:50:17.840
from now, And I'm like,
I would have said like twelve or something,

715
00:50:17.840 --> 00:50:21.559
because it does not feel like six
minutes. Well, you know,

716
00:50:21.679 --> 00:50:22.760
maybe we're wrong. I'll look at
the time and see if we're right.

717
00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:27.639
Maybe this whole rest of the movie
is in six minutes. The hand goes

718
00:50:28.119 --> 00:50:31.880
full carry and just kills people,
and that it rips a guy's like scalpel

719
00:50:32.000 --> 00:50:36.320
Oh. Yeah, the lead singer
of the Offspring gets scalpl yes, which

720
00:50:36.360 --> 00:50:39.519
is awesome, And it's just trying
to get to mally uh. And they

721
00:50:39.559 --> 00:50:44.440
decide to escape in the vent system, which the events in these movies are

722
00:50:44.440 --> 00:50:47.760
only so big. Yeah, the
events are huge. Look, I one,

723
00:50:47.840 --> 00:50:51.360
I don't know why that fan was
there and white. It looks like

724
00:50:51.400 --> 00:50:54.079
that. I don't know. I
wouldn't trust the shoe in that fan.

725
00:50:54.360 --> 00:50:58.440
Also like that, I mean,
that's like a party city costume, like

726
00:50:58.559 --> 00:51:00.719
those are party city heels, right, Why wouldn't you put like the other

727
00:51:00.840 --> 00:51:04.480
shoe in there to stop it?
I will say, like it was kind

728
00:51:04.519 --> 00:51:07.320
of like it's an innovative idea.
Yes, like it, Okay, like

729
00:51:08.199 --> 00:51:13.039
it, and it almost works Like
Jessica Avil gets out, Tany is about

730
00:51:13.039 --> 00:51:16.239
to get out. Well, she
hesitated, so she did, and the

731
00:51:16.320 --> 00:51:22.280
hand gets her, holds her back
into the fan and just splatters her like

732
00:51:22.320 --> 00:51:28.199
a three. Yeah. I the
only thing I wish this kill had more

733
00:51:28.199 --> 00:51:31.159
blood. Yeah, it feels like
actually it's bloodier than I remember, but

734
00:51:31.199 --> 00:51:35.000
it does feel like they tone down
some of the blood. Like there's like

735
00:51:35.079 --> 00:51:37.480
I don't like, I don't mean
like I don't want I didn't I don't

736
00:51:37.519 --> 00:51:39.519
mean like I war girl, but
like covered in blood, Like, but

737
00:51:40.119 --> 00:51:44.800
I would like a little more if
it feels like there was more and they

738
00:51:44.880 --> 00:51:47.840
just trimmed it down. There's like
a tiny like literally the smallest bit,

739
00:51:47.920 --> 00:51:53.559
like she gets shredded by an industrial
fan. Yeah, there's gonna be a

740
00:51:53.599 --> 00:51:58.360
lot of blood. Yeah, and
then uh, when you see the aftermath,

741
00:51:58.400 --> 00:52:00.960
there's a lot of the remains of
times we've got up pub and Mick,

742
00:52:01.079 --> 00:52:04.719
fine, go back and get a
piece yeah, and he's like he's

743
00:52:04.719 --> 00:52:06.519
like, I'm gonna get a piece
of I don't want to go back.

744
00:52:06.599 --> 00:52:09.920
I don't want to go through all
this time. Anton almost gets the hand,

745
00:52:09.960 --> 00:52:15.280
who's now in a puppet. Oh
yeah yeah, it's really creepy.

746
00:52:15.519 --> 00:52:17.440
But the boys stop him on accident
because they fall out of the ceiling.

747
00:52:17.519 --> 00:52:23.760
Oh. He's like, who's your
dadding out? Yeah? Oh. The

748
00:52:23.760 --> 00:52:28.079
the school set is some of the
rooms. I think the art room is

749
00:52:28.119 --> 00:52:31.159
also the same set from Party of
Five. I haven't watched Party of Five

750
00:52:34.119 --> 00:52:37.079
and Jennifer Love Hewitt. Yeah,
Jennifer Love Hewick got a spin off show

751
00:52:37.119 --> 00:52:42.880
that I think only last one seasons. Just something from the commentary track there

752
00:52:42.920 --> 00:52:46.800
you Go. Where are my Party
of five fans? At? I want

753
00:52:46.840 --> 00:52:50.920
to get me peas in the chat
if you're a Party of five fan.

754
00:52:52.119 --> 00:52:55.239
So eventually the hand gets Molly on
a car on a lift and it's going

755
00:52:55.320 --> 00:52:59.440
to crush her into a pentagram and
I guess that'll get her soul or something.

756
00:52:59.519 --> 00:53:02.719
Yeah, it's like the yeah,
yes, uh, And the dudes

757
00:53:02.719 --> 00:53:07.320
are fighting with the hand, which
again is still wearing a puppet. It

758
00:53:07.360 --> 00:53:10.519
hasn't let go of the puppet way
and the puppet's face can change expressions,

759
00:53:10.559 --> 00:53:15.639
which doesn't make sense. But yeah, so they decide they need to get

760
00:53:15.760 --> 00:53:19.559
high mighty Joe Bong yes, to
get strength, and I do like that

761
00:53:19.599 --> 00:53:22.280
they ripped Essalvas out at all.
Oh yeah, because in the test screening,

762
00:53:22.920 --> 00:53:28.400
the everyone's like majority of the like
the request was. My favorite part

763
00:53:28.480 --> 00:53:30.840
was the titty part. That is
what they said. That's the quote,

764
00:53:31.639 --> 00:53:37.920
so they like people requested like more
more. Jessica Alba I would have done

765
00:53:37.960 --> 00:53:42.079
the same thing, and I completely
agree, and not like in Machete where

766
00:53:42.079 --> 00:53:45.039
she was wearing gunder wear and they
digitally put skin on her. No.

767
00:53:45.119 --> 00:53:51.480
Yeah, yeah, anyway, Uh, they end up getting the hand high,

768
00:53:51.519 --> 00:53:53.159
which doesn't She's like, it's like, I'm dying. You're getting stoned

769
00:53:53.199 --> 00:54:00.480
with your friends. She's so offended. It doesn't make sense, doesn't make

770
00:54:00.519 --> 00:54:04.480
sense that the puppet's eyes go just
like now you're taking anton time. It's

771
00:54:04.519 --> 00:54:09.119
so funny though, it's really funny, so funny, and so yeah,

772
00:54:09.199 --> 00:54:16.599
they think everything's good now and then
the hand like jumps it's like yeah,

773
00:54:16.880 --> 00:54:21.199
like the no, well, the
hand like, oh, the hand jumps

774
00:54:21.199 --> 00:54:25.280
at them. Debbie comes in with
the dagger. It hits Seth Green and

775
00:54:25.320 --> 00:54:30.400
then the hand just wiggles a little
bit and just poofs and then Seth Green

776
00:54:30.480 --> 00:54:36.559
points out it's like no explosions,
no hell fire, nope. And then

777
00:54:36.639 --> 00:54:38.519
Debby goes, okay, now I
have to have ritual sex. Now,

778
00:54:38.599 --> 00:54:43.960
time for the ritual sex. And
he's like, okay, cool. But

779
00:54:44.000 --> 00:54:46.760
I believe Seth Green's line is a
reference to the o G ending because the

780
00:54:46.880 --> 00:54:53.920
ending is the original ending was set
in the school pool and it had it

781
00:54:53.960 --> 00:54:58.480
was like it's been recorded, like
it's oh, it's cool. Yeah,

782
00:54:58.519 --> 00:55:01.360
you should see the original ending it
sex. Okay, it's like it's hell

783
00:55:01.440 --> 00:55:05.199
fire. It's the pits of hell
open up at the pool. It's insane.

784
00:55:05.280 --> 00:55:07.880
Like they're on a diving board,
like they're like the hand is like

785
00:55:08.000 --> 00:55:12.599
cornering them off the dive of diving
board. Okay, Like it's kind of

786
00:55:12.639 --> 00:55:16.760
like insane. Why didn't they use
that? I don't remember, Like I

787
00:55:16.880 --> 00:55:22.199
I genuinely don't remember. Okay,
what the reasoning was behind why they were

788
00:55:22.199 --> 00:55:27.119
the effect finished? Is this a
Blade scenario where I don't know if you've

789
00:55:27.159 --> 00:55:30.199
watched our Blade episode where the original
ending up Blade looked like shit, I

790
00:55:30.239 --> 00:55:34.159
mean the the when I mean,
the effects aren't finished on the scene,

791
00:55:34.239 --> 00:55:36.960
but like a lot of them are. Okay, I can see where like

792
00:55:37.039 --> 00:55:38.760
maybe if the budget's running out there
like we got it might have been that.

793
00:55:38.840 --> 00:55:42.599
I genuinely don't remember. But by
the way, I think this is

794
00:55:42.719 --> 00:55:45.920
way funnyious? Is this a way
better that? It just proves that line

795
00:55:45.920 --> 00:55:51.800
I believe is a reference to the
original ending. There's that? So then,

796
00:55:52.039 --> 00:55:55.360
uh, what for God? They
accidentally kill Anton? They crushed him?

797
00:55:55.599 --> 00:55:59.039
Yeah, they crush him. Yeah, he was like that was supposed

798
00:55:59.079 --> 00:56:02.920
to come down a lot slip that. Yeah, it moved up so slow

799
00:56:02.960 --> 00:56:07.159
and then it came down crashing.
So funny. But then they decided to

800
00:56:07.159 --> 00:56:09.360
go to heaven. Yeah, they
asked Anton if he wants to come,

801
00:56:09.840 --> 00:56:14.920
and then flash forward Anton decided to
stay. He's in a full body cast

802
00:56:15.079 --> 00:56:19.440
and then he has sexy Usca Alba
and a little dress feeding apple sauce,

803
00:56:20.800 --> 00:56:23.800
and I love that they think he's
going crazy because he's seeing Mick and Pinob

804
00:56:23.920 --> 00:56:28.639
as angels and by the way,
the shittiest angels, Like they went to

805
00:56:28.679 --> 00:56:32.519
party City and got the little kid
angel whips and then like in the background

806
00:56:32.559 --> 00:56:37.920
there's Santarea by Sublime playing yeah,
and they're like, we're here to make

807
00:56:37.920 --> 00:56:42.320
sure you don't go back to your
slacker ways, and because that was the

808
00:56:42.360 --> 00:56:45.480
we forgot to imagine he was so
lazy in the hand, can only possess

809
00:56:45.519 --> 00:56:52.480
the laziest post like yeah, So
uh, they're like okay, So she

810
00:56:52.639 --> 00:56:54.880
leaves and they're like, hey,
we're gonna go do something. And then

811
00:56:54.960 --> 00:56:58.719
of course he looks up at the
ceiling and it says, I'm under your

812
00:56:58.719 --> 00:57:00.159
bed. Yeah, and it turns
out that they did it and they're just

813
00:57:00.159 --> 00:57:02.760
being dicks there. And then they're
walking off and they're like you want to

814
00:57:02.800 --> 00:57:09.719
go walk through a nurse's And then
the movie ends and it is a good

815
00:57:09.800 --> 00:57:15.000
time. It's one of those like
now now that I've rewatched and I'm like,

816
00:57:15.400 --> 00:57:17.639
I want to watch this more often. This This is a fun like

817
00:57:17.679 --> 00:57:22.199
put it on the background movie.
Something interesting is always happening, something funny

818
00:57:22.280 --> 00:57:27.559
is always happening. Yeah, it
always gets I mean I always laugh at

819
00:57:27.599 --> 00:57:30.599
this movie if I'm in a bad
mood. Like it's just it's like I

820
00:57:30.639 --> 00:57:35.000
said, I I forgot most of
the movie and then as soon as I

821
00:57:35.039 --> 00:57:39.360
put it on it all came back
to me. Yeah, and it's really

822
00:57:39.400 --> 00:57:44.840
clever. It's really fair, and
like I said, it's it creatively finds

823
00:57:44.880 --> 00:57:50.519
ways to be lazy. The lazy
writing, but the plot contrivances, it's

824
00:57:50.599 --> 00:57:54.360
like they're doing this on purpose.
Just exactly funny. Yeah, and I

825
00:57:54.400 --> 00:58:01.440
had a really, really great time
revisiting this same any final thoughts, I

826
00:58:01.679 --> 00:58:05.639
set all my thoughts. I just
was really happy to talk about this movie

827
00:58:05.760 --> 00:58:08.679
because I love it. I wish
I knew more about the behind the scenes.

828
00:58:09.199 --> 00:58:14.960
Maybe I'll pray to the devil and
sell my soul to get an interview

829
00:58:14.960 --> 00:58:19.000
with the director. Oh my god, Sarah, it's now weeks later,

830
00:58:19.880 --> 00:58:22.519
and my deal with the devil work. We have the director of Idle Hands

831
00:58:22.519 --> 00:58:29.199
here. Introduce yourself please. Hi, I'm Rodman Flander, and you made

832
00:58:29.239 --> 00:58:32.800
a deal with the devil to get
me. Yeah, you wasted your deal

833
00:58:32.800 --> 00:58:37.000
with the devil, dude. I
mean, should I have asked for something

834
00:58:37.039 --> 00:58:40.719
bigger than an interview with the director
of Vital Hands, Like should I have

835
00:58:40.760 --> 00:58:45.519
like try to conquer a country or
get wealthy? Yeah? I mean,

836
00:58:45.559 --> 00:58:50.360
do you have like an ingrown toenail
that you could have taken care of?

837
00:58:50.440 --> 00:58:52.039
You know? I mean there are
about a billion other things you could have

838
00:58:52.159 --> 00:58:57.679
done. I mean, and now
your soul belongs to what Diesel Bob for

839
00:58:57.719 --> 00:59:00.800
all eternity. Right, So yes, yes, I think it's worth it.

840
00:59:00.920 --> 00:59:05.880
I think it's worth it. So
I hope I can make it work.

841
00:59:05.920 --> 00:59:10.000
It worth it, I hope.
So you are Rodman. I am

842
00:59:10.079 --> 00:59:14.480
Rodman. That's me. You never
introduced, you introduced yourself, and you've

843
00:59:14.480 --> 00:59:20.119
made fun of me for the I'm
sorry. Yes, I'm Rodmin Flander.

844
00:59:20.320 --> 00:59:29.039
Robin Flander directed Idle Hands, among
many other things. That's me. Okay,

845
00:59:29.079 --> 00:59:32.920
So yeah, we have some very
important questions about this film. My

846
00:59:34.039 --> 00:59:37.400
first question is how did you get
attached to the project. Idle Hands had

847
00:59:37.760 --> 00:59:45.880
been in development and it actually had
a couple of directors before me. There

848
00:59:45.880 --> 00:59:50.159
were two that I know of before
me, And and you know, it's

849
00:59:50.440 --> 00:59:57.719
it's a peculiar movie with a peculiar
tone, and uh no one could really

850
00:59:57.800 --> 01:00:00.920
sort of come to an agreement Cass
on what that tone was going to be.

851
01:00:01.000 --> 01:00:04.480
Some people still can't come to it. Some people still think the tone

852
01:00:04.559 --> 01:00:08.679
is not consistent. I don't know, but I pitched a take which the

853
01:00:08.800 --> 01:00:15.519
execs at Columbia Pictures seemed to like, and they let me do it.

854
01:00:15.599 --> 01:00:22.400
I had also because they had creative
differences with the previous director, and it

855
01:00:22.559 --> 01:00:28.559
was you know, the train had
almost had just about left the station.

856
01:00:29.280 --> 01:00:36.960
Devin had already been cast, and
I think they needed someone who had proven

857
01:00:37.000 --> 01:00:42.159
he could work quickly and having done
you know, I came from the Roger

858
01:00:42.239 --> 01:00:46.840
Corman school, Rogers my mentor,
and having produced and directed movies in fifteen

859
01:00:46.960 --> 01:00:52.280
days and also having done television you
know you OC and other kind of teenage

860
01:00:52.280 --> 01:00:57.519
themes, shows that have a very
tight schedule six seven days, I had

861
01:00:57.880 --> 01:01:01.320
proven that I could work very quick
and efficiently and on time and on budget.

862
01:01:02.199 --> 01:01:07.400
So they took a chance, and
there you go. Yeah, I

863
01:01:07.400 --> 01:01:09.760
guess, Sarah, do you want
to ask your question here? I guess

864
01:01:09.760 --> 01:01:13.679
we'll go down the line the questions
you had. Yeah. Sure, sure.

865
01:01:13.840 --> 01:01:16.159
So this was a good question that
I was super excited to ask you

866
01:01:16.199 --> 01:01:21.719
about because the first time I ever
watched it, I immediately thought of this.

867
01:01:21.920 --> 01:01:29.159
So the lighting in the movie I
absolutely love. And I'm also a

868
01:01:29.320 --> 01:01:35.880
huge Dario Argento fan, love Suspiria, love that movie and correct me if

869
01:01:35.880 --> 01:01:39.239
I'm wrong. But when I was
watching the listening to the commentary track that

870
01:01:39.320 --> 01:01:43.880
you guys do over the film.
You had mentioned that a lot of the

871
01:01:43.960 --> 01:01:52.320
lighting was inspired by Dario and Suspiria, and even I believe one of the

872
01:01:52.719 --> 01:01:59.719
kills, or I believe when it
gets the plastic bottle, not plastic glass

873
01:01:59.719 --> 01:02:04.199
bottle all the album, the one
you have is plastic plastic, Yeah,

874
01:02:04.199 --> 01:02:09.559
the glass bottle, it was it
was plastic. Oh you heard it here,

875
01:02:09.599 --> 01:02:16.480
folks. They didn't shove a glass
bottle. It was like I believe

876
01:02:16.480 --> 01:02:21.519
it was like a shot for shot
reference to like TENEBRAE. But I that's

877
01:02:21.559 --> 01:02:25.400
just from what I remember hearing.
I was just I found it really interesting

878
01:02:25.440 --> 01:02:30.960
that a horror comedy took inspiration from
Dario Argento, and I just kind of

879
01:02:31.000 --> 01:02:36.320
wanted to hear you talk about your
influence from him and his movies and what

880
01:02:36.480 --> 01:02:40.239
made you decide to put some of
that into this movie. Though the even

881
01:02:40.280 --> 01:02:45.840
though it's like a horror comedy,
how much time do you have? Urgento

882
01:02:46.719 --> 01:02:53.320
is a huge influence. And I
guess that maybe speaks to my my approach

883
01:02:53.400 --> 01:03:00.159
to comedy, which is it you
kind of have to take it seriously even

884
01:03:00.199 --> 01:03:07.280
though it's comedy, if that makes
sense. Like an example I give when

885
01:03:07.280 --> 01:03:08.760
I've when I've taught this is like
the Marx Brothers, right. I don't

886
01:03:08.760 --> 01:03:13.639
know if you guys have seen any
old Marx Brothers movies, but when you

887
01:03:13.679 --> 01:03:16.920
know, grout Show is doing his
stick and everyone around him is horrified,

888
01:03:17.639 --> 01:03:22.840
it's hilarious. When Harpo is doing
his stick and people are like laughing at

889
01:03:22.920 --> 01:03:30.639
him. I never found that as
funny because they're acknowledging within the movie that

890
01:03:30.719 --> 01:03:36.159
it's a joke. So I think
when when I, when I ever I

891
01:03:36.199 --> 01:03:38.920
do comedy, I always you know, my my direction to the actors is

892
01:03:38.960 --> 01:03:43.880
always, you know, you have
to play this as if it's really happening.

893
01:03:43.920 --> 01:03:49.760
I don't want you winking or shticking
it up in any way. So

894
01:03:49.840 --> 01:03:53.679
my approach to performance was the same
as my approach to lighting and camera work

895
01:03:53.719 --> 01:03:58.440
and and everything else. I mean, this, uh, it was a

896
01:03:59.000 --> 01:04:03.559
nutty movie and a crazy script that
had these kills. And you know our

897
01:04:03.679 --> 01:04:09.360
Gento and and Di Palma, and
I mean there are these are the masters

898
01:04:09.400 --> 01:04:15.000
of of camera work and shot making. You know, Luca Fulci's got to

899
01:04:15.119 --> 01:04:16.360
do great ones. I mean,
you know, the list goes on and

900
01:04:16.400 --> 01:04:21.320
on, but basically I think that
speaks to more my personal approach to to

901
01:04:21.519 --> 01:04:29.440
comedy which is no one involved in
the world of the film should know they're

902
01:04:29.440 --> 01:04:32.760
in a comedy, right they the
people should think that they're in a horror

903
01:04:32.840 --> 01:04:40.000
movie. And Christopher Baffa my Ace
DP, who you know, has been

904
01:04:40.239 --> 01:04:43.199
hours and now was a TV A
great work, you know, I told

905
01:04:43.239 --> 01:04:45.599
him it was sort of Also my
direction to him is like, you know,

906
01:04:45.679 --> 01:04:48.239
I want to shoot this like a
Dario Argenta movie. And we looked

907
01:04:48.239 --> 01:04:54.480
at Tannebray and Suspiria and a few
others. So that does that answer your

908
01:04:54.519 --> 01:04:58.280
question? It does. I wanted
to share you talk about it a little

909
01:04:58.320 --> 01:05:02.199
bit more because the first time I
saw I immediately was like, I wonder

910
01:05:02.199 --> 01:05:05.599
if this I wonder if he's this
is like Dario Argento fan, because I

911
01:05:05.599 --> 01:05:12.239
immediately was seeing the the inspiration and
I was very happy to find out that

912
01:05:12.239 --> 01:05:14.880
that's that that was true. So
I just want to kind of want to

913
01:05:14.880 --> 01:05:17.280
hear you speak about it a little
bit more. So, yes, oh

914
01:05:17.360 --> 01:05:19.840
yeah, yeah, very true.
And and I mean, you know,

915
01:05:19.840 --> 01:05:26.480
if you're a physical media collective,
yeah, you know, a golden age.

916
01:05:26.719 --> 01:05:30.320
I mean I remember, you know, my poster but somewhere my first

917
01:05:30.400 --> 01:05:36.760
copy of of TENEBRAE was very ugly
looking vhs called unsane it it didn't even

918
01:05:38.039 --> 01:05:42.800
have the tenebray title on it,
and it was it was cut up and

919
01:05:42.880 --> 01:05:45.840
bad. But now, I mean, you know, you've got like what

920
01:05:45.920 --> 01:05:49.639
eight different beautiful blu rays to choose
from, with the Italian version, the

921
01:05:49.639 --> 01:05:54.480
American version that you know, whatever, the version that was sent into space.

922
01:05:56.400 --> 01:06:00.559
It's a fantastic time. Yeah.
Yeah, I like physical media.

923
01:06:00.559 --> 01:06:03.159
I don't know if you noticed the
store back here with all the tapes of

924
01:06:03.159 --> 01:06:08.280
one. Yeah, I have to
check out. I have to see if

925
01:06:08.320 --> 01:06:15.679
you have any of my movies.
Although I learned early on that as a

926
01:06:15.679 --> 01:06:23.119
director, never asked for your movies
in a video store. My wife and

927
01:06:23.159 --> 01:06:28.440
I had honeymoon in Ireland, and
many many years ago, I had just

928
01:06:28.519 --> 01:06:32.440
done my very first movie for Roger
Corman, was called The Unborn, had

929
01:06:32.440 --> 01:06:39.360
a European home video distribution. So
I found this video store in Dublin and

930
01:06:39.400 --> 01:06:42.159
I went in and I just I
didn't say who I was, and I

931
01:06:42.199 --> 01:06:45.280
just said, did you have to
have a movie called The Unborn? And

932
01:06:45.320 --> 01:06:48.519
I'm gonna I apologize to all the
Irish people because I'm going to mutilate the

933
01:06:48.559 --> 01:06:51.639
accent. But I remember the woman
looked at me and she said, oh,

934
01:06:51.760 --> 01:06:58.840
we had it, but we sent
it back. It was rubbish.

935
01:07:00.119 --> 01:07:02.559
Tony, I'm not going to ask
if you have the unborn back there in

936
01:07:02.599 --> 01:07:08.280
your store, but you know,
I don't have the unborn. I think

937
01:07:08.320 --> 01:07:13.119
I have the two thousand and nine
unborn somewhere. But but you know what,

938
01:07:13.199 --> 01:07:17.360
I'm going to order the unborn right
now. Oh my goodness, I'm

939
01:07:17.400 --> 01:07:24.039
gonna have the unborn. Uh Eat
Brains, Love Will be There, which

940
01:07:24.079 --> 01:07:27.679
I actually watched recently and I really
enjoyed. But let's get back to Idle

941
01:07:27.719 --> 01:07:30.039
Hands. So you kind of answered
the one question. Also, Sarah,

942
01:07:30.039 --> 01:07:33.400
thanks for skipping to the very last
question instead of the first one. That

943
01:07:33.519 --> 01:07:38.400
was great. Didn't throw me off
at all. So this film has gained

944
01:07:38.440 --> 01:07:41.599
a cult following over the years.
What do you think it is about Idle

945
01:07:41.639 --> 01:07:46.400
Hands that resonates with viewers and keeps
them coming back to it? Well?

946
01:07:46.559 --> 01:07:51.239
I would ask Sarah that question,
since she's the viewer who keeps coming back

947
01:07:51.280 --> 01:07:55.119
to it. Sarah, I mean, yeah, wait, did you a

948
01:07:55.239 --> 01:08:01.039
question for yourself? What is that? I Actually I'm just as curious as

949
01:08:01.079 --> 01:08:03.480
Tony is. I mean, so, Sarah, what is it about the

950
01:08:03.519 --> 01:08:10.000
movie that makes you keep coming back. I mean, I mean as a

951
01:08:10.000 --> 01:08:14.519
as a I mean as a music
lover. The soundtrack is banging. I

952
01:08:14.559 --> 01:08:20.399
love the soundtrack. I listened to
it religiously. I love practical effects,

953
01:08:20.520 --> 01:08:27.720
so and I mean I love I
mean, the makeup is astounding. I

954
01:08:27.760 --> 01:08:31.640
mean, I'm going to college for
special effects currently, So I like,

955
01:08:31.680 --> 01:08:39.960
I love it, and I I
love I mean, I love a good

956
01:08:40.000 --> 01:08:43.800
horror comedy, stoner movie, and
there's I don't really think there's many of

957
01:08:43.840 --> 01:08:49.840
those, So to have one that
I like, it's it's kind of my

958
01:08:49.920 --> 01:08:55.600
own little thing, and I very
much enjoy it. Well. That means

959
01:08:55.640 --> 01:08:58.840
a lot. And thank you for
mentioning this the soundtrack as well, because

960
01:08:59.279 --> 01:09:00.760
as you can see these records,
I mean, I'm a I'm a you

961
01:09:00.760 --> 01:09:03.279
know, the music meant a lot
to me. I know some directors just

962
01:09:03.319 --> 01:09:06.399
sort of you know, higher composer
and music supervisor and walk away. But

963
01:09:08.960 --> 01:09:13.880
you know, to me, the
music is as important as casting or you

964
01:09:13.920 --> 01:09:16.199
know, camera work or anything else. It's it's part of the whole thing.

965
01:09:16.560 --> 01:09:18.600
And I think the fact that you're
talking about, you know, the

966
01:09:18.640 --> 01:09:27.920
the practical effects, you know,
in a CG world that we live in,

967
01:09:28.000 --> 01:09:30.479
I think, I do think it's
refreshing, and I do hear that

968
01:09:30.560 --> 01:09:33.720
a lot. And with the movie
that I did, you know, right

969
01:09:33.720 --> 01:09:39.680
before the pandemic he Brains Love,
I was very insistent to only use practical

970
01:09:39.720 --> 01:09:45.800
effects, no CG. Blood because
blood and fire they never look good to

971
01:09:45.840 --> 01:09:50.359
me, do they when they're generated. I get the practical reasons why,

972
01:09:50.840 --> 01:09:55.199
because like CGI, fire is safer. I get blood. You don't have

973
01:09:55.199 --> 01:10:00.319
to clean up as much, but
it's better. Yeah, if you're able

974
01:10:00.319 --> 01:10:02.439
to do it practically, it makes
it works. Or if you can't do

975
01:10:02.479 --> 01:10:09.600
it practically, rewrite Yeah, yeah, Okay, it all starts on the

976
01:10:09.640 --> 01:10:13.760
page. So if you if you
write the house burns down, but you

977
01:10:13.800 --> 01:10:16.840
can't afford real fire, you know, either you figure out another way,

978
01:10:17.119 --> 01:10:23.680
or do a creative way of shooting
it using lighting, or you know,

979
01:10:23.880 --> 01:10:27.760
thank you for many solutions. Thank
you for saying that, because we reviewed

980
01:10:27.840 --> 01:10:30.279
a movie this month where I said
the same thing, where I was like,

981
01:10:30.399 --> 01:10:33.520
you know, this probably sounded good
on paper, but you didn't have

982
01:10:33.560 --> 01:10:39.520
the pudget for it. You should
have rewritten this scene. But yeah,

983
01:10:39.560 --> 01:10:44.239
you kind of skipped ahead and answered
the music question there you literally answered the

984
01:10:44.279 --> 01:10:46.800
next two questions randomly, Well,
I feel like we could go in a

985
01:10:46.800 --> 01:10:49.600
little bit. Okay, thanks a
lot, to see you later. Remember

986
01:10:49.680 --> 01:10:54.720
to like comment and subs. Before
this review, I hadn't seen the movie

987
01:10:54.760 --> 01:10:59.279
in a really long time. I
watched it when I was younger, and

988
01:10:59.359 --> 01:11:01.399
I remember liking it. And then
I was in a video store in Ireland

989
01:11:01.399 --> 01:11:03.359
and I asked the girl if she
had idle hands. She told me it

990
01:11:03.399 --> 01:11:04.840
was rubbish, and I was like, oh, you know what, it

991
01:11:04.840 --> 01:11:08.880
probably wasn't very good. Uh no, I'm kidding, that didn't happen.

992
01:11:10.159 --> 01:11:12.600
But now when I rewatched it for
this review, and I'm like, I

993
01:11:12.680 --> 01:11:16.399
forgot like one, I remembered pretty
much the entire movie, which is rare

994
01:11:16.439 --> 01:11:19.319
for a movie I haven't seen in
a long time. And then I didn't

995
01:11:19.319 --> 01:11:24.119
realize like how influential was like the
how you did the whole like tongue in

996
01:11:24.199 --> 01:11:27.920
cheek comedy there, we're like the
characters are kind of like saying the obvious

997
01:11:27.920 --> 01:11:31.159
stuff, like my favorite thing is
Vivic a fox. She's just like exposition.

998
01:11:31.960 --> 01:11:35.960
It feels like and we theorized in
the episode, probably not true.

999
01:11:36.319 --> 01:11:40.800
I'm like, I felt like they
just wrote a character in later on to

1000
01:11:40.840 --> 01:11:45.319
just explain what's going on. So
the audience is up to speed because all

1001
01:11:45.359 --> 01:11:46.960
her scenes she shows up and she's
like we gotta do this, this,

1002
01:11:46.960 --> 01:11:49.399
this, this and that and that
and that. Okay, next scene.

1003
01:11:50.439 --> 01:11:54.039
I kind of like how funny it
was that it's just like, hey,

1004
01:11:54.119 --> 01:11:56.840
we know this is an exposition scene. We're just giving you a lot of

1005
01:11:56.840 --> 01:12:02.680
information real quick. For the screenwriters
Terry Hughes and Ron Milbauer, if they

1006
01:12:02.680 --> 01:12:06.720
said, Okay, we need an
exposition character, hopefully we made it fun.

1007
01:12:06.720 --> 01:12:10.399
And I think, no, it
is. It is knocked out of

1008
01:12:10.399 --> 01:12:14.079
the park because sometimes there are movies
where they're like write in a scene for

1009
01:12:14.199 --> 01:12:16.680
like very blatant exposition, and it's
kind of annoying because you could tell like,

1010
01:12:16.760 --> 01:12:19.640
oh, they probably thought the audience
couldn't figure out what's going on.

1011
01:12:19.680 --> 01:12:24.279
But I like it's almost so much
on the nose of this movie. It's

1012
01:12:24.399 --> 01:12:27.760
really comical. Uh, she's like
one of my favorite parts. I have

1013
01:12:27.800 --> 01:12:30.720
a theory. I have a theory
that you know how like in movies now

1014
01:12:30.760 --> 01:12:32.600
you know, because we all text, that's like the main communication is texting

1015
01:12:33.279 --> 01:12:38.640
and now, and so in so
many movies they depict texting with like the

1016
01:12:38.680 --> 01:12:43.880
bubbles that pop up on the screen
like someone of me. So I have

1017
01:12:43.960 --> 01:12:48.079
a theory you heard it here first, that texting in movies is what headlines

1018
01:12:48.239 --> 01:12:50.800
used to be, like in old
movies from the thirties and forts that have

1019
01:12:50.840 --> 01:12:57.119
the spinning headline, and that would
be your exposition. Now it's a text

1020
01:12:57.199 --> 01:13:00.960
on screen that says, you know, Sarah and Tony can't get rid of

1021
01:13:01.000 --> 01:13:09.960
Rodney flind or whatever. You know. Yeah, it's kind of exposition.

1022
01:13:10.640 --> 01:13:15.199
It's kind of like how search engines
got rid of the microfilm in movies when

1023
01:13:15.199 --> 01:13:17.199
people used to go to the library
with micro films. Now it's all which

1024
01:13:17.199 --> 01:13:19.640
is funny because they did that in
Freddy Versus Jason. I'm like, I

1025
01:13:19.640 --> 01:13:25.039
think this is the last time a
movie used microfilm where people are looking up.

1026
01:13:25.119 --> 01:13:30.600
So so, horror comedy often relies
on timing and tone. How did

1027
01:13:30.600 --> 01:13:32.760
you work with the cast to ensure
that comedic elements and the horror elements were

1028
01:13:32.760 --> 01:13:38.039
perfectly balanced in the film. Do
you think they're perfectly balanced? I mean,

1029
01:13:38.840 --> 01:13:43.880
I'm glad you do, because it
is. That is a very very

1030
01:13:44.039 --> 01:13:47.319
very tough tight rope to walk.
I think it's one of one of the

1031
01:13:47.399 --> 01:13:57.079
toughest and you know, I can
count on on two fingers what I think.

1032
01:13:57.119 --> 01:14:00.319
You know, the movies that just
nail it, you know, Sean

1033
01:14:00.359 --> 01:14:03.880
of the Dead and maybe you know
Aberd and Castellowie Frankensteiner. So you know

1034
01:14:03.920 --> 01:14:14.399
that's uh and yeah, so how
did I do it? I just did

1035
01:14:14.439 --> 01:14:16.039
my best. Really. I think
it starts with kind of how I answered

1036
01:14:16.079 --> 01:14:23.000
your your question earlier about no one
in the movie thinking they're in a comedy.

1037
01:14:23.119 --> 01:14:26.760
I mean, you know, everyone
kind of playing it straight. And

1038
01:14:27.600 --> 01:14:31.640
you know, you know Devin everything
that he does, he is he is

1039
01:14:31.680 --> 01:14:35.279
like genuinely terrified in the movie of
what's happening to him. He's not.

1040
01:14:35.439 --> 01:14:40.760
And we had conversations about this because
you know, it's it's physical comedy,

1041
01:14:41.399 --> 01:14:44.960
and you know, we talked a
lot about like the physical comedy of Jim

1042
01:14:45.000 --> 01:14:50.159
Carrey for example, which I love
Jim Carrey and he's a genius at it,

1043
01:14:50.680 --> 01:14:58.600
but that approach just wasn't appropriate for
you know, it's appropriate for ace

1044
01:14:58.720 --> 01:15:02.359
Ventura when mask, but not necessarily
what I wanted to do with this teenage

1045
01:15:02.439 --> 01:15:06.319
gill. Also, you know,
Jim Carrey was a well known comic actor,

1046
01:15:06.720 --> 01:15:14.920
you know, with idle Hands,
it was very important to me that

1047
01:15:15.039 --> 01:15:16.640
you know, they, as I
said, play it straight or scared.

1048
01:15:16.720 --> 01:15:20.359
You know. So when when Devin
is reacting with this, with this possessed

1049
01:15:20.399 --> 01:15:26.600
hint, he is genuinely terrified.
And I asked him to play that way

1050
01:15:26.600 --> 01:15:29.640
and he did. He did it
better than I could have imagined. So

1051
01:15:30.079 --> 01:15:34.960
it all kind of harks back to
that kind of this my uh philosophy of

1052
01:15:34.960 --> 01:15:39.640
of sort of playing it, playing
it straight and letting the humor kind of

1053
01:15:39.680 --> 01:15:45.720
grow out of that makes that makes
sense? Yeah, sorry, I was

1054
01:15:45.720 --> 01:15:48.640
speaking of characters that like don't know
they're in a comedy or whatnot. Jessica

1055
01:15:48.640 --> 01:15:54.680
Alba's character, we were very we
were We're just like, wait, is

1056
01:15:54.720 --> 01:15:58.079
there a deleted seed where like there's
a backstory where she got hit on the

1057
01:15:58.119 --> 01:16:00.840
head or something. Because I'm like
there's a lot of real obvious things happening,

1058
01:16:00.920 --> 01:16:03.720
like when his hand he's like clearly
choking her. Then he ties up

1059
01:16:03.720 --> 01:16:08.039
his hand and she's like, oh
you're kiky. I'm like, who why,

1060
01:16:08.319 --> 01:16:11.000
No, that doesn't ben? I
love it. I love it.

1061
01:16:11.000 --> 01:16:14.199
It's so funny. No, but
yeah, I love how kind of like

1062
01:16:14.279 --> 01:16:16.680
out of like she's just like,
oh, this is just he's just quirky,

1063
01:16:16.720 --> 01:16:20.439
and I'm like, no, he's
clearly different. So yeah, that

1064
01:16:20.560 --> 01:16:24.920
was really fun, uh watching the
whole time, seeing her character throughout the

1065
01:16:24.920 --> 01:16:29.920
film just not really know what's going
on until the very end. Well,

1066
01:16:30.239 --> 01:16:34.720
audiences today react to that very different. I mean, it's a movie of

1067
01:16:34.760 --> 01:16:39.600
its time, you know, I
mean it's a nineties movie, and the

1068
01:16:39.720 --> 01:16:43.920
twenty twenty audience the sarah, I'm
glad, I'm glad you're getting a kick

1069
01:16:43.960 --> 01:16:46.920
out of heat because it's just,
you know, times have changed, and

1070
01:16:46.920 --> 01:16:53.319
it's it's a questionable whether or not
that tone you know, works today,

1071
01:16:53.479 --> 01:16:57.199
So I'm glad you dig it.
It does by the way it does.

1072
01:16:57.960 --> 01:17:05.560
It's it's hilarious. It's still it's
all let me see here. Oh,

1073
01:17:05.600 --> 01:17:09.760
getting back to effects, I will
say, like the few like digital like

1074
01:17:09.840 --> 01:17:13.720
effects in the film, and like
the green screen stuff are really really well

1075
01:17:13.760 --> 01:17:16.319
there, seamless, and they really
like Yeah when watching it today, like

1076
01:17:16.359 --> 01:17:18.880
the blade going through his neck and
everything, like, wow, that looks

1077
01:17:18.880 --> 01:17:27.720
better than some movies I've seen recently, So shout out to that. I

1078
01:17:27.720 --> 01:17:31.000
guess this one. Do you have
any interesting anecdotes from the set or memorable

1079
01:17:31.039 --> 01:17:36.199
moments while filming Idle hands that you
like to bring up. Oh my god,

1080
01:17:36.239 --> 01:17:40.560
that was a bit. It's a
while ago. Let me let me,

1081
01:17:40.640 --> 01:17:44.720
let me leap proud back to what
you previously said that about the about

1082
01:17:44.720 --> 01:17:48.840
the the CG effects or I mean, I don't even think they they I

1083
01:17:48.840 --> 01:17:54.800
don't even think they were computer generated. I mean we we used a rig

1084
01:17:54.840 --> 01:17:58.680
called a motion control rig, which
is tied to a computer, which allows

1085
01:17:58.720 --> 01:18:02.640
you to base create kind of a
moving plate. Oh yeah, a camera

1086
01:18:02.760 --> 01:18:09.159
move and the computer records the move
and then and then it replicates the move

1087
01:18:09.359 --> 01:18:14.000
exactly, and then you can sort
of paint out whatever. And obviously,

1088
01:18:14.039 --> 01:18:16.720
you know, we did that with
the scenes of the crawling hand where it

1089
01:18:16.760 --> 01:18:20.960
may even be on the on the
Blu ray of the DVD. You know,

1090
01:18:21.039 --> 01:18:26.239
we had obviously the entire actor going
across the screen, and then we

1091
01:18:26.439 --> 01:18:31.520
repeated that with the blade in the
neck. Everything. Nothing was purely computer

1092
01:18:31.680 --> 01:18:38.439
generated, right, Everything was tied
into something practical, So I don't I

1093
01:18:38.439 --> 01:18:41.600
don't remember the specifics, but for
you know, for example, I mean,

1094
01:18:41.640 --> 01:18:44.920
how I would do that, you
know, someone's getting their throat cut

1095
01:18:45.000 --> 01:18:47.079
or something. You know, we
would have an actual prosthetic, a piece

1096
01:18:47.079 --> 01:18:53.199
of makeup. Sarah you know that
that we would film and then would use

1097
01:18:54.079 --> 01:18:57.600
camera tricks. We didn't really have
computer graphics, but we would. We

1098
01:18:57.640 --> 01:19:01.359
would use green screen or whatever we
had at the time too, you know,

1099
01:19:02.279 --> 01:19:04.840
cover the zipper as it were,
you know what I mean. It's

1100
01:19:04.960 --> 01:19:10.239
uh, just just sort of blended
and and erase kind of things you wouldn't

1101
01:19:10.239 --> 01:19:15.520
want to see. Nothing was nothing
was purely created in a in a computer.

1102
01:19:15.560 --> 01:19:16.920
It was more about, like you
know, either green screen or taking

1103
01:19:16.920 --> 01:19:20.159
out what what you didn't want to
see. And I basically gave you that

1104
01:19:20.199 --> 01:19:26.279
long winded answer as I tried to
think of funny anecdotes from the set many

1105
01:19:26.359 --> 01:19:30.079
years ago. Hmmm, let me
come back to that. You know,

1106
01:19:30.119 --> 01:19:38.399
it's been so long and and I
have fond memories of the experience. It

1107
01:19:38.479 --> 01:19:44.720
was, you know, it was
it was stressful and uh, but in

1108
01:19:44.800 --> 01:19:50.159
terms of anecdotes while shooting, well, you got me there. You don't

1109
01:19:50.199 --> 01:19:53.319
have to ask, you know what. Okay, here's something I brought.

1110
01:19:53.399 --> 01:19:56.800
I brought my son. I brought
my son to the set. He was

1111
01:19:57.960 --> 01:20:01.000
two or just under two years old
at the time. I'm and uh,

1112
01:20:01.720 --> 01:20:10.279
I remember thinking on the prop table
was pinub Elden Henson's decapitated head, and

1113
01:20:10.319 --> 01:20:13.760
I thought, oh my god,
you know, my boy is going to

1114
01:20:13.800 --> 01:20:15.920
see that. And he just went
up to it and pointed to it and

1115
01:20:15.960 --> 01:20:19.960
said, boom boo. Yeah,
that's a boo boo. That's a big

1116
01:20:20.000 --> 01:20:28.039
boo boo. That's a sweet memory
I have speaking of the elden head like

1117
01:20:28.079 --> 01:20:31.760
the Pinub's head. So I saw
it. I saw it out of like

1118
01:20:31.760 --> 01:20:35.239
a I saw like a prop photo
of it that was like a few years

1119
01:20:35.279 --> 01:20:42.279
old, like someone was like selling
it or something. But like, what

1120
01:20:42.279 --> 01:20:47.119
what like was it like mechanic?
Like what what was it? Like?

1121
01:20:47.159 --> 01:20:53.000
What like the because there's shots where
it's like, yeah, there was physic,

1122
01:20:53.079 --> 01:20:56.079
like a physical head, and then
there's shots where it's like a CGI

1123
01:20:56.319 --> 01:21:01.079
like face on the head. Right, we did all of the above whatever,

1124
01:21:01.439 --> 01:21:04.680
you know, whatever the shot dictated. All of those special effects shots

1125
01:21:04.720 --> 01:21:10.239
were storyboarded. They were heavily storyboarded, so we knew exactly. I knew

1126
01:21:10.239 --> 01:21:14.520
exactly how I wanted to shoot it
and what I wanted to see, which

1127
01:21:15.239 --> 01:21:18.439
was instrumental, you know, in
terms of talking to the editors and the

1128
01:21:18.439 --> 01:21:23.720
special effects people. In Greg Cannon
Academy Award Winner Greg can Great, The

1129
01:21:23.760 --> 01:21:28.399
Great Greg Cannon built those those heads, and there was right, there was

1130
01:21:28.439 --> 01:21:33.439
a mechanical one that had servos with
that the mouth talked and then other times

1131
01:21:33.479 --> 01:21:36.319
I think, I think, I
think we obviously used those in the wider

1132
01:21:36.359 --> 01:21:41.279
shots. It's all coming back to
me now as as Seth Green is throwing

1133
01:21:41.359 --> 01:21:45.039
the cheesy poops into his mouth when
he's on the couch, that was a

1134
01:21:45.119 --> 01:21:48.479
mechanical I had known when we went
for like a closer shot of him talking,

1135
01:21:48.520 --> 01:21:51.399
and we you know, obviously needed
to feature his face. That was

1136
01:21:51.439 --> 01:21:59.640
again a kind of primitive face replacement
technology. So it was a little of

1137
01:21:59.680 --> 01:22:02.680
everything. Okay, cool, interesting, nice, Oh here's a funny story.

1138
01:22:04.920 --> 01:22:12.199
Okay, so uh, one of
the cops after he trying to remember

1139
01:22:12.199 --> 01:22:15.319
which which of the two actors it
was. But you know, they get

1140
01:22:15.760 --> 01:22:19.239
fried, you know, they get
they have pretty they get fried pretty bad

1141
01:22:19.239 --> 01:22:24.279
makeup. And he I remember,
he told me he went. He drove

1142
01:22:24.359 --> 01:22:27.439
home on the four or five freeway
for those of you who know Los Angeles,

1143
01:22:27.439 --> 01:22:30.600
you know, bumper to bumper in
full makeup. And I think he

1144
01:22:30.640 --> 01:22:34.479
had a convertible and would just like
I went to the people like, oh

1145
01:22:34.560 --> 01:22:40.800
my goodness, I can I can
bad day I felt that I had to

1146
01:22:40.880 --> 01:22:45.279
drive home after a convention with like
full face Mick makeup. I had the

1147
01:22:45.520 --> 01:22:49.960
bottle in my head and oh yeah, I had to get gas in that

1148
01:22:50.000 --> 01:22:55.760
one time too. That's great town. I've done that. I've done that

1149
01:22:55.800 --> 01:22:58.800
a couple of times where you just
it's just like it's easier just to keep

1150
01:22:58.840 --> 01:23:02.640
the costume on and keep the makeup
on. Yeah, what scene or moment

1151
01:23:03.119 --> 01:23:09.960
in Idle Hands are you particularly proud
of and what made it special or challenging

1152
01:23:10.079 --> 01:23:13.680
to create that? You know,
I should have watched the movie before doing

1153
01:23:13.720 --> 01:23:16.880
this podcast is uh, you know, I did see it last year.

1154
01:23:17.239 --> 01:23:24.239
You're in Pennsylvania, Tony. The
Mahoning drive in showed it. Actually,

1155
01:23:24.920 --> 01:23:30.119
Yeah, so shout out to the
Mahoning And I did go and see it

1156
01:23:30.199 --> 01:23:34.159
at the drive in, and it
was it was really just rewarding to see

1157
01:23:34.199 --> 01:23:38.399
what what scenes still worked and what
scenes played, you know what, I

1158
01:23:38.399 --> 01:23:43.479
guess I'm first of all all the
performances, just delighted with the performances.

1159
01:23:43.560 --> 01:23:53.439
The three guys are just fantastic.
I think maybe the finger sharpening in the

1160
01:23:53.520 --> 01:23:57.439
pencil sharpener was a gag we'd come
up with him try to figure out how

1161
01:23:57.479 --> 01:24:00.279
to do, and it was tricky, and I think that I think that,

1162
01:24:00.920 --> 01:24:03.720
you know, because I still I
really like pencils, So I think

1163
01:24:03.760 --> 01:24:09.600
that I think that have props standing
by I think that I think that turned

1164
01:24:09.640 --> 01:24:12.600
out really well. That's something I'm
really proud of how that turned out.

1165
01:24:13.359 --> 01:24:20.039
Uh, you know what, I'm
just so I'm just so delighted that decades

1166
01:24:20.119 --> 01:24:26.319
later, you guys are talking about
it and your you're fans of it,

1167
01:24:26.439 --> 01:24:30.119
and Sarah you're dressing up as a
character. I mean that just I can't

1168
01:24:30.159 --> 01:24:34.560
tell you how much that means to
me, because it's you know, I've

1169
01:24:34.600 --> 01:24:41.520
talked about this far too much,
but it had a very troubled release upon

1170
01:24:41.560 --> 01:24:45.439
its release, and it and it
and it got kind of swept up into

1171
01:24:45.439 --> 01:24:50.600
this whole kind of political ship storm
with the terrible school shooting ACCU. We

1172
01:24:50.640 --> 01:24:55.640
mentioned that in the review because I
remember earlier in the review I talked about

1173
01:24:55.680 --> 01:24:57.960
how like when I was younger,
and like when I was a kid at

1174
01:24:58.000 --> 01:25:01.760
the time, like I remember seeing
advertisements for this like before the movie came

1175
01:25:01.760 --> 01:25:05.159
out, like everywhere, and then
it just kind of like disappeared, and

1176
01:25:05.199 --> 01:25:09.279
then I just happened to find it
on cable the one night like a few

1177
01:25:09.359 --> 01:25:14.079
years later. But yeah, I
remember it being like super advertised and then

1178
01:25:14.199 --> 01:25:17.760
just gone and then and then it
was gone. Yeah. Well, weren't

1179
01:25:17.800 --> 01:25:21.439
the only movie affected by that,
by the way, because I know,

1180
01:25:21.479 --> 01:25:25.960
like Screen three had to do like
a ton of rewrites after that whole thing.

1181
01:25:27.279 --> 01:25:30.119
Yeah, no, that still happens, I mean with the and my

1182
01:25:30.119 --> 01:25:34.119
my heart always goes out to people
who are affected by things in the news

1183
01:25:34.159 --> 01:25:40.000
because out of their control, thousands
of people were hundreds of people, you

1184
01:25:40.039 --> 01:25:43.359
know, work on these work very
hard on these movies, and yeah,

1185
01:25:43.399 --> 01:25:46.960
they kind of swept the release of
Idle Hands under the carpet, and I

1186
01:25:46.960 --> 01:25:49.239
guess it's a good thing they did, because look, there have been no

1187
01:25:49.359 --> 01:25:54.960
more shootings since, right, I
mean not that I know. I don't

1188
01:25:55.000 --> 01:25:58.560
watch the news, so I'm out
of the loop. But anyway, because

1189
01:25:58.560 --> 01:26:02.479
that was such a you know,
difficult and painful experience, and you know,

1190
01:26:02.560 --> 01:26:06.319
I kind of moved on very quickly
after that. The fact that,

1191
01:26:06.359 --> 01:26:10.640
like I said, all these years
later, they're showing it at the Mahoning,

1192
01:26:10.720 --> 01:26:13.880
and they showed it also this year
at the at the New Beverlely.

1193
01:26:14.039 --> 01:26:18.479
Quentin Tarantino's thirty five milimeter only theater
here in LA and you know, it

1194
01:26:18.560 --> 01:26:24.000
pops up and I can see,
Sara, You've got the beautiful screen Factory

1195
01:26:24.039 --> 01:26:30.840
release they put out that, you
know, more than any like one particular

1196
01:26:31.000 --> 01:26:34.680
scene or one thing, you know, the fact that that is happening now

1197
01:26:34.680 --> 01:26:41.239
and in twenty twenty three, that
makes me really happy. That just warms

1198
01:26:41.279 --> 01:26:45.520
my heart. One question I had
the fan death was that originally going to

1199
01:26:45.560 --> 01:26:48.920
be more gory? Like were we
going to see or like go into the

1200
01:26:48.920 --> 01:26:55.439
fan and chunks everywhere? Is it
gonna be more blood? You know what?

1201
01:26:55.800 --> 01:26:58.720
That was one that I really wanted
to play around with sound, and

1202
01:26:58.760 --> 01:27:01.680
it was kind of like like,
you know, like if I could create

1203
01:27:01.760 --> 01:27:08.680
something really horrible with sound, what
you would create in your mind would be

1204
01:27:09.560 --> 01:27:13.640
much worse than any you know,
meat I would put through a fan.

1205
01:27:15.880 --> 01:27:21.000
I thought, with just kind of
enough gore that that was yeah, when

1206
01:27:21.000 --> 01:27:27.640
I just wanted to leave to your
own brutal imagination. The aftermath is the

1207
01:27:27.680 --> 01:27:34.960
aftermath is gory everywhere. Make sure
I listened to that. So now that

1208
01:27:35.000 --> 01:27:42.840
you've mentioned that, to hear the
sounds. Okay, So at the time

1209
01:27:42.880 --> 01:27:45.760
when we shot the initial part of
the review, I had not seen the

1210
01:27:45.760 --> 01:27:49.520
original ending, and then I watched
the original ending today with your wonderful introduction

1211
01:27:49.640 --> 01:27:54.720
by the way from the DVD.
Oh god, oh god, that's just

1212
01:27:54.960 --> 01:28:00.119
I mean, if this's one thing
I could just scrub, well, it's

1213
01:28:00.199 --> 01:28:03.720
of its time. That was hilarious. I wish more people would do that

1214
01:28:03.920 --> 01:28:09.319
these days. My son who I
mentioned, just just thinks that's like the

1215
01:28:09.359 --> 01:28:15.239
funniest thing I've ever done. He
just loves anyway it. So I've seen

1216
01:28:15.239 --> 01:28:20.239
the original ending and I get it. It's not as like funny as it

1217
01:28:20.279 --> 01:28:23.680
should be, So I understand why
you want to change it. I do.

1218
01:28:23.880 --> 01:28:28.640
The one gag I really liked is
uh Seth Green whatnot finally showing up

1219
01:28:28.680 --> 01:28:32.000
with like all the hak the all
the football gear and stuff after everything's already

1220
01:28:32.079 --> 01:28:36.920
like uh was finished. H So
I get wanting to like change and whatnot,

1221
01:28:36.920 --> 01:28:40.880
But like, how did you come
up with like who came up with

1222
01:28:40.920 --> 01:28:43.720
the new ending with the puppet?
And who also came up with the idea

1223
01:28:43.840 --> 01:28:47.720
to kind of make fun of the
original ending where he's all like, oh,

1224
01:28:47.760 --> 01:28:53.479
I was expected demons and everything,
right, yeah, right, So

1225
01:28:53.479 --> 01:28:56.520
where did that new ending come from? Yeah? Also, what's going on

1226
01:28:56.640 --> 01:29:00.600
with your life. I just like, nothing, this is a what what

1227
01:29:00.720 --> 01:29:06.520
is this program? Stream yard?
Yeah? This is how it looked earlier,

1228
01:29:06.600 --> 01:29:10.720
and nothing has changed in my room. So this is a stream Ard

1229
01:29:10.920 --> 01:29:15.640
thing. Yeah, totally a stream
Yard thing. That's why I was so

1230
01:29:15.680 --> 01:29:19.119
surprised it looked so dark earlier.
In terms of the new ending. You

1231
01:29:19.199 --> 01:29:26.640
know who wrote what I you know, we we certainly you know the original

1232
01:29:26.680 --> 01:29:32.560
screenwriters wide In Ron and Terry run
No Bower and Terry Hues. Oh and

1233
01:29:32.960 --> 01:29:40.199
you know you're really asking me to
look. I can't remember where I left

1234
01:29:40.279 --> 01:29:45.800
my keys, Okay, so trying
to remember who wrote what gag? That's

1235
01:29:45.840 --> 01:29:49.640
like way on my mental capacity right
now. Maybe if I if I,

1236
01:29:50.359 --> 01:29:56.479
well were you like? But we
knew the main thing was we knew we

1237
01:29:56.520 --> 01:30:01.359
wanted it to be funnier, we
wanted to be lighter in tone. And

1238
01:30:02.640 --> 01:30:09.279
after test screenings, I mean,
people just loved the whole weed angle before

1239
01:30:09.319 --> 01:30:14.159
It's time. So you know the
idea of you know, this this crazy

1240
01:30:14.199 --> 01:30:16.159
bong and the and the hand getting
stoned in the puppet, I mean,

1241
01:30:16.680 --> 01:30:20.800
we knew that's where that's what the
audience liked, that's what they reacted to,

1242
01:30:21.479 --> 01:30:25.920
and that's what we wanted to embrace
exactly who wrote what it was.

1243
01:30:26.000 --> 01:30:30.600
You know, we were all kind
of pitching out ideas and things, and

1244
01:30:30.640 --> 01:30:32.880
that's where we wound up. Now, did you did you know while like

1245
01:30:33.079 --> 01:30:36.399
shooting that ending that you weren't too
thrilled with it? Or was it until

1246
01:30:36.399 --> 01:30:41.439
you saw it like cut together,
where like everyone decided it needed to be

1247
01:30:41.520 --> 01:30:47.279
reshot the I mean the ending in
the swim Pool. Yeah, well I

1248
01:30:47.640 --> 01:30:49.920
thought no, I thought it was
great. I mean again, it's kind

1249
01:30:49.920 --> 01:30:53.279
of like what I said earlier.
A lot of people, a lot of

1250
01:30:53.279 --> 01:30:57.560
people worked very hard on that ending, which is why I'm glad we got

1251
01:30:57.560 --> 01:31:03.000
to include it, even even in
its unfinished state. I think for for

1252
01:31:03.119 --> 01:31:06.560
a movie, especially movie like Idle
Hands, where like I said, you

1253
01:31:06.640 --> 01:31:13.399
know, we were really trying to
balance that tight rope of comedy and horror,

1254
01:31:13.760 --> 01:31:19.159
an audience can really tell you a
lot. The These test screenings are,

1255
01:31:19.319 --> 01:31:24.479
you know, among the most horrible, terrifying things a director can can

1256
01:31:24.520 --> 01:31:30.000
experience. But it's important to really, you know, see what works and

1257
01:31:30.239 --> 01:31:33.279
and see what doesn't. It's funny
somewhere in here I still have the audience

1258
01:31:33.600 --> 01:31:40.680
comment cards because there was one.
There was one comment that said, what

1259
01:31:40.760 --> 01:31:45.560
was your favorite scene in the movie, and the comment was the titty part.

1260
01:31:45.119 --> 01:31:54.279
I think that in the Yeah,
I still have it. And then

1261
01:31:54.359 --> 01:31:57.279
and then the follow up question,
what was your least favorite part of the

1262
01:31:57.319 --> 01:32:01.640
movie, the part without the titties, what the young manner? So you

1263
01:32:01.640 --> 01:32:04.760
know, when you get to the
minute, sho you guys should have failed

1264
01:32:04.760 --> 01:32:11.079
that guy and how to watch every
movie? God, yeah, maybe it

1265
01:32:11.079 --> 01:32:15.399
was Jim Narski. I don't know. It's a Jim Narski jokes. I

1266
01:32:15.399 --> 01:32:19.199
love Jim, but no. But
my point is, you know, you

1267
01:32:19.239 --> 01:32:25.880
can really tell just sitting in a
room with people when people are fidgeting.

1268
01:32:25.880 --> 01:32:29.560
You can people are going to the
bathroom, or when people are really engaged

1269
01:32:29.680 --> 01:32:34.319
and locked into a movie. And
you know, if you've got three hundred

1270
01:32:34.319 --> 01:32:39.640
people watching something and all three hundred
say, you know, the ending felt

1271
01:32:39.680 --> 01:32:42.279
like a different movie, maybe you
should listen to that, you know,

1272
01:32:42.319 --> 01:32:47.239
And I did, and luckily I, you know, after hearing that very

1273
01:32:47.279 --> 01:32:51.520
specific thing and then shooting the new
ending and then testing it again and seeing

1274
01:32:54.439 --> 01:32:57.079
no one said that, you know, with the new ending and the scores

1275
01:32:57.079 --> 01:32:59.279
were hired, people seem to like
it. It's like, okay, well,

1276
01:32:59.319 --> 01:33:01.680
that speaks for it. So it
wasn't a question of like while shooting

1277
01:33:01.760 --> 01:33:08.680
it, It was more a question
of of seeing, you know, what

1278
01:33:08.800 --> 01:33:13.359
works, and that goes for I
think it's very hard to write a screenplay

1279
01:33:13.399 --> 01:33:17.279
without showing it to some trusted people
who will tell you what stinks about it.

1280
01:33:17.319 --> 01:33:19.640
You don't want to show a screenplay
or a movie to anyone who just

1281
01:33:19.680 --> 01:33:21.239
says, oh, it's great,
I love it, I love it.

1282
01:33:21.279 --> 01:33:28.239
You know, you really want to
get constructive criticism, and that's what we

1283
01:33:28.319 --> 01:33:31.239
got. So it was it was
it was less about you know, in

1284
01:33:31.279 --> 01:33:35.760
the moment, thinking Okay, this
doesn't really work, and more you know,

1285
01:33:36.279 --> 01:33:41.159
in the moment shooting and thinking,
wow, this is the big epic

1286
01:33:41.840 --> 01:33:45.239
ending that this movie needs, and
then realizing, you know, when you

1287
01:33:45.279 --> 01:33:49.680
cut it all together, the movie
doesn't need a big epic ending. It

1288
01:33:49.760 --> 01:33:54.159
needs something funny and something you know, because also because the characters were so

1289
01:33:54.199 --> 01:33:58.960
strong. I'm glad we really got
to kind of you know, focus on

1290
01:33:59.279 --> 01:34:01.479
characters and not just special effects.
You know. I mean that that ending

1291
01:34:01.640 --> 01:34:06.159
like it is like you know,
really special effects heavy. Uh. So

1292
01:34:06.199 --> 01:34:09.880
I'm glad the way it turned out. I mean I think, oh no,

1293
01:34:09.920 --> 01:34:16.039
the ending yeah, the ending is
hilarious. Yeah. No, I

1294
01:34:16.039 --> 01:34:18.880
I love the way the movie ends. I love that it's just seth Green

1295
01:34:18.960 --> 01:34:21.439
being like, oh that's it.
Okay, I thought it'd be. I

1296
01:34:21.520 --> 01:34:25.399
thought it to be a little bit
more and then a fox it's like,

1297
01:34:25.399 --> 01:34:30.079
oh, by the way, we
have to have ritual. Ritual. It's

1298
01:34:30.079 --> 01:34:32.439
like it's almost funny, like how
much it's trying to wrap things up quickly,

1299
01:34:32.560 --> 01:34:34.640
like Okay, the movie's done,
let's just wrap this up up.

1300
01:34:36.560 --> 01:34:45.800
That's jack noseworthy, jack noseworthy.
But yeah, I guess those are my

1301
01:34:45.920 --> 01:34:48.840
questions about Idle Hands. Uh.
I do have a few extra questions.

1302
01:34:48.840 --> 01:34:53.520
But Sarah, do you have anything
about Idle Hands you want to say or

1303
01:34:53.680 --> 01:34:58.119
any questions you want to last questions? Hmmm, trying to think, Oh,

1304
01:34:58.319 --> 01:35:04.199
quick question for music wise. I
know y'all have Shout at the Devil

1305
01:35:04.199 --> 01:35:13.560
by Motley Crue on there. It's
a great song. I love it.

1306
01:35:13.560 --> 01:35:16.760
It's like, I know we mentioned
this in the in the in the review

1307
01:35:17.319 --> 01:35:25.520
where how it's like in the movie
like seven or eight times where y'all like,

1308
01:35:26.680 --> 01:35:31.159
I'm just curious, but where y'all
just where y'all were the rights?

1309
01:35:31.239 --> 01:35:34.520
Like was it just hard to get
that song. Were you guys just really

1310
01:35:34.560 --> 01:35:38.680
excited to have that because it's a
great song. I just every time I

1311
01:35:38.720 --> 01:35:42.960
hear it, I'm like, it
just cracks me up. Well, that

1312
01:35:43.079 --> 01:35:45.600
was sort of Jack Knows where Jack
Knows worthy theme, right. I think

1313
01:35:45.640 --> 01:35:47.760
we used it every time he shows
up, Right, It's kind of like

1314
01:35:47.760 --> 01:35:53.600
when he shows up shout at the
Devil. So you know it was that.

1315
01:35:53.720 --> 01:35:57.520
That was kind of that was his
Yeah, that song? Yeah,

1316
01:35:57.560 --> 01:36:01.119
it's his theme. Wow, what
is that? I have no idea.

1317
01:36:02.399 --> 01:36:09.000
I'm sorry, show I'm not.
This is this is this is some disco

1318
01:36:09.199 --> 01:36:14.039
music. It'll make total sense.
I'll see a lot of times, like

1319
01:36:14.199 --> 01:36:17.920
after it's stum recording. Sometimes like
when it prosses the video, little things

1320
01:36:17.960 --> 01:36:21.760
like that doesn't show up. I'm
sorry, I'm sorry, that's never happened.

1321
01:36:24.159 --> 01:36:27.000
Hey, look, as long as
it doesn't switch our microphones, I'm

1322
01:36:27.000 --> 01:36:30.479
fine. But yeah, the shout
of the Devil thing was pretty good.

1323
01:36:30.560 --> 01:36:35.359
I have a couple questions outside of
idle hands if you don't mind. Uh,

1324
01:36:35.399 --> 01:36:39.439
Well, One, here's a compliment, great job on Leprechaun. Two,

1325
01:36:39.960 --> 01:36:43.920
he really nailed it with that one. I actually love the Leprechaun movies

1326
01:36:44.000 --> 01:36:47.680
every Saint Patrick's day. I've been
reviewing a Leprechan movie and I think when

1327
01:36:47.680 --> 01:36:50.319
I was still on Cinemascar, we
did part two over there. There was

1328
01:36:50.319 --> 01:36:57.079
like a smaller video one. Okay, So you know there are famous film

1329
01:36:57.119 --> 01:37:00.119
trilogies that people get to be a
part of, and I'm looking here.

1330
01:37:00.680 --> 01:37:05.239
You were three different characters in the
Carnosaur trilogy. And I've never been more

1331
01:37:05.319 --> 01:37:11.279
jealous of someone in my entire life. Can you just tell me something about

1332
01:37:11.279 --> 01:37:15.560
the Carnosaur trilogy because I grew up
watching those movies and loving them. So

1333
01:37:15.640 --> 01:37:23.079
the Carnisaur movies were made at Concord
New Horizons, Roger Corman's company, and

1334
01:37:24.159 --> 01:37:28.039
I was head of production at the
time. I think I was head of

1335
01:37:28.039 --> 01:37:32.239
production at the time of the first
two, and I think the third one.

1336
01:37:32.279 --> 01:37:38.880
Obviously, Jonathan Winfrey directed that one. You know, he was kind

1337
01:37:38.920 --> 01:37:42.600
of the in house production manager,
then went on to direct. You know,

1338
01:37:42.600 --> 01:37:47.119
we were buddies, and I just
I kind of knew all the directors.

1339
01:37:47.159 --> 01:37:51.600
Adam Simon, who directed Carnosaur one. Adam Simon and I actually went

1340
01:37:51.640 --> 01:37:59.720
to college together and I did back
to back odio commentaries on his movie Brain

1341
01:37:59.800 --> 01:38:02.119
Day. I interviewed him for his
movie Brain Dead on that audio commentary,

1342
01:38:02.119 --> 01:38:05.960
and he interviewed me on on my
movie The on Board, And in true

1343
01:38:06.000 --> 01:38:12.760
Roger Corman fashion, we were able
to get two audio commentaries with one studio

1344
01:38:12.920 --> 01:38:21.279
booking. So so that was so
that was Carnisour one. Carnosaur two was

1345
01:38:21.520 --> 01:38:26.840
directed by another friend, Lewis Morena, and Lewis very if I remember correctly,

1346
01:38:26.880 --> 01:38:30.439
I think I die pretty early in
that right, and one of the

1347
01:38:30.439 --> 01:38:33.199
first few to get killed. So
he's, well, look, I am

1348
01:38:33.319 --> 01:38:38.640
always looking for reasons to rewatch Carnosaur
two. So I will check tonight and

1349
01:38:38.720 --> 01:38:43.840
let you know, Faller, that
loser, it's probably jerking off, you

1350
01:38:43.880 --> 01:38:45.920
know what I'm saying. And then
here's a story about Carnosaur three. Here's

1351
01:38:45.920 --> 01:38:51.119
a story about Carnosaur three. And
then with Carnosaur three, I'm at the

1352
01:38:51.159 --> 01:38:59.359
time, I had really long hair
and I played a military guy and the

1353
01:38:59.399 --> 01:39:01.079
director and Winfrey said, tom Me, Rudman, you know you're in the

1354
01:39:01.079 --> 01:39:04.399
Military're gonna have to cut your hair. And I said, what for one

1355
01:39:04.479 --> 01:39:13.880
day on Carnosaur three cutting my hair? Figure it out? So he wrote

1356
01:39:13.880 --> 01:39:17.720
a line in the movie. It's
been decades since I but I remember he

1357
01:39:17.760 --> 01:39:23.399
wrote a line where someone says to
me, like, you know, now

1358
01:39:23.520 --> 01:39:30.760
riding my jeep with that aircut son
again. So years ago, my parents

1359
01:39:31.119 --> 01:39:34.319
tried to trick me but came home
with Carnosaur two and told me it was

1360
01:39:34.399 --> 01:39:38.359
Jurassic Park two because I guess they
didn't. I guess they forgot I knew

1361
01:39:38.359 --> 01:39:40.840
how to read, and I'm like, this is a Jurassic Park two.

1362
01:39:41.199 --> 01:39:44.079
But I ended up loving the movie. Years later, I'm like, wait,

1363
01:39:44.119 --> 01:39:46.640
this is just aliens with dinosaurs.
No wonder I liked it so much.

1364
01:39:48.039 --> 01:39:54.760
But yeah, one other thing,
Uh, you directed an episode of

1365
01:39:54.800 --> 01:39:57.439
Millennium, And I just want to
say that because I love Millennium and no

1366
01:39:57.479 --> 01:40:00.439
one ever talks about it, so
I just want to remind everyone will lineum

1367
01:40:00.520 --> 01:40:03.600
exists. That was a great show. It exists. It's a great show.

1368
01:40:03.680 --> 01:40:08.119
And uh yeah, what else do
you have coming up? Like,

1369
01:40:08.159 --> 01:40:14.600
what are you directing next? Well, we mentioned the mention to ee Brains

1370
01:40:14.600 --> 01:40:19.479
Love. I mean that OCN,
the sister distribution company of Vinegar Syndrome,

1371
01:40:20.079 --> 01:40:26.800
put out a beautiful blue ray of
that. And in terms of what's next,

1372
01:40:26.800 --> 01:40:30.039
I'm you know, if I if
I tipped my computer, my laptop,

1373
01:40:30.079 --> 01:40:33.840
you'd see the wall that I'm hiding
that has all my projects and development

1374
01:40:33.880 --> 01:40:36.920
on it. What do I have? Okay, so I've got I've got

1375
01:40:38.319 --> 01:40:42.359
one more. I kind of bounce
back and forth between teachers and documentaries.

1376
01:40:43.439 --> 01:40:46.880
I did a you know, documentar
that got the theatrical release about Conan O'Brien

1377
01:40:46.920 --> 01:40:53.920
on tour. I'm currently working on
another documentary about a summer resort in the

1378
01:40:53.960 --> 01:41:00.119
nineteen fifties that a lot of famous
Broadway performers got their start at. So

1379
01:41:00.159 --> 01:41:04.000
that's I'm actually shooting that and editing
that right now. Uh, and have

1380
01:41:05.439 --> 01:41:09.880
and then just trying to get you
know, eyeballs on other scripts from when

1381
01:41:09.920 --> 01:41:15.800
I've adapted one that's kind of in
the works, and you know, looking

1382
01:41:15.840 --> 01:41:18.800
for people with check books who want
to fund my next movie. Well that's

1383
01:41:18.840 --> 01:41:25.359
cool. Yeah, thank you so
much for doing this for us. Thank

1384
01:41:25.399 --> 01:41:29.800
you, this is really really great. I don't know if you're on social

1385
01:41:29.880 --> 01:41:32.199
so if you want to plug where
we can follow you, you can right

1386
01:41:32.239 --> 01:41:41.800
now. Yeah, So I'm on
Instagram, Rodman Underscore f uh and uh,

1387
01:41:42.039 --> 01:41:46.039
letterboxed and I think I'm just I
think I'm just Rodman on letterboxed just

1388
01:41:46.840 --> 01:41:55.880
like that's it, just all right? Cool? Well, thanks for stopping

1389
01:41:55.920 --> 01:42:00.319
by. Well thank you and again, I really I I mean it,

1390
01:42:00.359 --> 01:42:03.840
I really, I really do appreciate
them. The ongoing love for this movie.

1391
01:42:03.960 --> 01:42:10.199
It really does warm my heart.
So thank you. Anyway, Sarah,

1392
01:42:10.279 --> 01:42:14.760
where can we find you besides roaming
the streets of Tampa outside of a

1393
01:42:14.800 --> 01:42:16.720
convention? So you guys can find
me on Instagram. That's where I do

1394
01:42:16.800 --> 01:42:23.279
most of my professional cosplaying. It's
at reanimated dot nerd and it'll be probably

1395
01:42:23.399 --> 01:42:27.560
right here in assuming we'll see.
Oh I thought you're dropping clips in,

1396
01:42:28.119 --> 01:42:32.000
aren't you the editor? Out?
Take the screenshot of your Instagram throw it

1397
01:42:32.039 --> 01:42:35.720
in there. Yeah, I'll now
be editing. Good luck. But that's

1398
01:42:35.760 --> 01:42:41.560
where, especially this one, that's
where I mostly post all my stuff and

1399
01:42:41.640 --> 01:42:45.279
it has all my links to all
my other social medias. But that's where

1400
01:42:45.319 --> 01:42:48.880
I'm most active at like sharing,
subscribe you all that fun stuff, join

1401
01:42:48.960 --> 01:42:54.399
the Patreon. Oh real quick.
If I don't know if you guys missed

1402
01:42:54.439 --> 01:42:57.520
it, I don't know if you
missed it. I put the first episode

1403
01:42:57.520 --> 01:43:01.159
of Bloodline, a hell Raisors show
out for free in October for free,

1404
01:43:01.279 --> 01:43:03.600
for free, and if you like
it, go check out that episode.

1405
01:43:03.600 --> 01:43:08.640
If you like it. Patreon has
a new thing. They have a shop

1406
01:43:08.800 --> 01:43:14.000
section. So I put the entire
hell Raise, every hell Raiser review into

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one video and you can buy it
on Patreon without being a member. You

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just buy that video. It's cheaper
to become a member and just watch them.

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But if you're like I just really
want to know what Tony and his

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cousin have to say about every single
goddamn hell Raisers are very important and it

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only costs eight dollars twice of X
Premium wo not Twitter Blue because we live

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in the future. Yeah it's X
Yeah, no one says Twitter anymore.

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We're hipping with it anyway. That's
it from us, gomebye bye. Remember

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