WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.400 --> 00:00:17.760 And you are listening to Video Games to the Max. Hello, and welcome 2 00:00:17.800 --> 00:00:21.559 to another edition of Video Games to the Max. I'm your host, Seonagom 3 00:00:21.640 --> 00:00:28.320 right here with me as always, mister Mark Morrison. And yes, well 4 00:00:28.800 --> 00:00:33.479 we don't have a bunch of games to talk about this week, but there's 5 00:00:33.520 --> 00:00:37.320 a lot of news to talk about this week. The Game Awards. We 6 00:00:37.359 --> 00:00:42.520 will get to do basically like a morning after review next week because the Game 7 00:00:42.560 --> 00:00:47.520 Awards is on Thursday night, probably gonna go a while. So because this 8 00:00:47.600 --> 00:00:49.960 is the last show that we're going to be able to do before the Game 9 00:00:50.000 --> 00:00:54.000 Awards, We're gonna do our predictions of who we think will win and who 10 00:00:54.039 --> 00:00:58.399 we think is like we want to see win the Awards, and then I'll 11 00:00:58.439 --> 00:01:03.560 talk about some put my phone on silence so we don't have phone sounds during 12 00:01:03.600 --> 00:01:08.599 this, but we'll talk about the PC Most Wanted Gaming showcase that just happened 13 00:01:08.640 --> 00:01:15.680 a little bit there. They did announce some cool games on that. Microsoft's 14 00:01:15.719 --> 00:01:19.280 CFO Tim Stewart had a lot to say about the direction of Xbox now that 15 00:01:19.359 --> 00:01:25.719 the Activision Blizzard King thing is over, and Bill Spencer even announced that they 16 00:01:25.719 --> 00:01:30.760 are a mobile gaming storm might be coming from Microsoft closer than you think. 17 00:01:32.400 --> 00:01:36.239 And there's a lot more to talk about as well as Dragon's dogma too, 18 00:01:36.400 --> 00:01:38.799 how to showcase and some of the things as well. So we'll get all 19 00:01:40.359 --> 00:01:46.120 into many of those things all right, well, as we do each week. 20 00:01:46.200 --> 00:01:49.159 Let's just go ahead and get the housekeeping stuff out of the way here 21 00:01:49.400 --> 00:01:55.120 so we can get to talking about stuff. The course this is your first 22 00:01:55.159 --> 00:01:59.480 time listening or hunter time listening, we do appreciate you. Thank you so 23 00:01:59.599 --> 00:02:01.879 much, whether you'll watch live on the YouTube channel, W two network, 24 00:02:01.959 --> 00:02:07.199 or on twitch sto network or on Facebook, same thing you were usually doing 25 00:02:07.199 --> 00:02:14.680 the show around the twelve thirty is time on Fridays, and like I said, 26 00:02:14.719 --> 00:02:17.319 next week we'll be doing our review of the Game of Awards twenty twenty 27 00:02:17.360 --> 00:02:21.759 three, what they announced and everything else. But we'll get into all that 28 00:02:21.879 --> 00:02:25.439 a little bit here. Also, if you subscribe to the YouTube channel, 29 00:02:27.319 --> 00:02:30.240 you not only get what we do here videogames to the max. If you 30 00:02:30.400 --> 00:02:34.560 like entertainment stuff, you like movies and TV, we got that handled as 31 00:02:34.599 --> 00:02:38.199 well. 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This is December first, we're already in 41 00:03:15.800 --> 00:03:20.520 the last month of twenty twenty three. Crazy mark that we're there. So 42 00:03:21.560 --> 00:03:27.080 yes, that's it. Let's get into this housekeeping. Don't forget. You 43 00:03:27.080 --> 00:03:30.879 can also listen with your ears on podcasts or just search video games to the 44 00:03:30.919 --> 00:03:34.599 next wherever it is aslong with the other two shows, and you can subscribe 45 00:03:34.639 --> 00:03:38.159 there and get one of what we do a show. So moving on, 46 00:03:38.280 --> 00:03:42.039 let's talk about I guess we don't really have, you know, I think 47 00:03:42.080 --> 00:03:45.800 you only have like Hogwarts Legacy, and I do have it's technically a new 48 00:03:45.800 --> 00:03:47.719 game, but I'm talking about the demo of it. So it's not necessarily 49 00:03:47.759 --> 00:03:52.240 the technically the same thing. So we'll leave the gaming stuff to the end, 50 00:03:52.599 --> 00:03:55.680 or go ahead, No, that's fine, yeah, Or I'll we'll 51 00:03:55.719 --> 00:04:00.080 do news and then I'll intersperse it before we get to the predictions. But 52 00:04:00.960 --> 00:04:04.360 yeah, let's, I guess, talk about this Xbox thing, which I 53 00:04:04.400 --> 00:04:09.080 feel like it is a little bit overblown because it's kind of the same thing 54 00:04:09.120 --> 00:04:12.439 that they've been saying for a while. It's just you have the money man 55 00:04:12.639 --> 00:04:16.920 saying it, so it's making people get all up in arms about it. 56 00:04:17.519 --> 00:04:23.639 But if you, you know, haven't been paying attention. Tim Stewart, 57 00:04:23.639 --> 00:04:30.199 Microsoft's CFO, went on a webcast and talked about a variety of different things 58 00:04:30.319 --> 00:04:36.240 concerning Microsoft, especially now that the whole Activision Blizzard King thing is done and 59 00:04:36.319 --> 00:04:42.800 dusted and they now can move forward of what the company is going to be 60 00:04:42.920 --> 00:04:46.600 now after that. You know, he talks about things like why they don't 61 00:04:46.600 --> 00:04:51.439 announce numbers, why they are signing to go towards mobile, things like that. 62 00:04:51.519 --> 00:04:56.480 But kind of though, the one that sparked everybody's ire is the he 63 00:04:56.639 --> 00:05:01.959 talks about basically, they want Activision, Blizzard game and virtually Xbox first party 64 00:05:02.000 --> 00:05:10.160 games to be anywhere that there are screens. Uh, this includes TV, 65 00:05:10.480 --> 00:05:15.040 this includes mobile devices, even things that we would have thought as our competitors 66 00:05:15.040 --> 00:05:17.839 in the past, like PlayStation Nintendo. We're going to Nvidia g Force now, 67 00:05:17.839 --> 00:05:20.480 which Call of Duty just showed up on Nvidia g Force now, so 68 00:05:20.519 --> 00:05:25.279 they are making there. They are living up to that promise. A lot 69 00:05:25.319 --> 00:05:29.759 of talk now because they mentioned that that our Xbox is going third party, 70 00:05:30.240 --> 00:05:34.000 the consoles are going away. Let's all go crazy and doom and gloom. 71 00:05:34.800 --> 00:05:40.040 I mean, yeah, that's dumb. Like, yeah, it's I hate 72 00:05:40.040 --> 00:05:43.279 to say it. Look at like the trajectory of Sega. You know, 73 00:05:43.360 --> 00:05:48.480 they had one extremely profitable console, two or three that weren't, and then 74 00:05:48.519 --> 00:05:53.120 the Dreamcast died a very quick death even though it was, you know, 75 00:05:53.160 --> 00:05:58.120 a decent console. But they're probably better today than they were, you know, 76 00:05:58.160 --> 00:06:00.839 when they were making shit, making you know, the three to two 77 00:06:00.839 --> 00:06:04.480 ways to the second Saturn. Yeah, like I I fully expect to see 78 00:06:04.959 --> 00:06:08.759 I don't expect to see. I think I would like to see Microsoft do 79 00:06:08.800 --> 00:06:13.839 that do the same thing, because they've made four consoles arguably one only one 80 00:06:13.839 --> 00:06:17.639 of them has been successful, and even not that successful. I mean in 81 00:06:17.680 --> 00:06:23.079 the grand scheme is successful, but like it didn't. It wasn't like the 82 00:06:23.240 --> 00:06:28.120 leader of the generation ry, So it was for a large portion of it, 83 00:06:28.639 --> 00:06:30.480 You're right. I mean, yeah, it was for like the first 84 00:06:30.519 --> 00:06:33.600 like five years and then yeah, they eventually caught up. But you know, 85 00:06:34.199 --> 00:06:40.000 like the Xbox One kind of a failure. You know, the various 86 00:06:40.000 --> 00:06:43.800 series x's and says o X Xbox one was a failure. I don't think 87 00:06:43.839 --> 00:06:46.759 there's any way to put that in any other contexts other than it failed. 88 00:06:47.199 --> 00:06:53.360 You failed it even worse by bundling it with Connect you know, So the 89 00:06:53.399 --> 00:06:59.040 series X is a positive? Uh, Scott, Uh, you know sins. 90 00:06:59.040 --> 00:07:02.319 Scott's also watched Lives, so I appreciate him watching, and he's he's 91 00:07:02.360 --> 00:07:05.680 commenting, he's saying that. Imagine it's not having like a Dragon games because 92 00:07:05.720 --> 00:07:11.800 Sega decided to double down on hardware instead of software. It's true, Yeah, 93 00:07:12.560 --> 00:07:15.959 Sega could have ran itself out of business if it kept trying to push 94 00:07:16.319 --> 00:07:21.079 concept ye a Dreamcast too or you know, here's you know, yeah, 95 00:07:21.199 --> 00:07:25.319 dumb shit like that. But they realized like, hey, we can't compete 96 00:07:25.319 --> 00:07:29.759 with Sony and you know, well Sony and Nintendo, I mean Microsoft, 97 00:07:30.040 --> 00:07:33.079 funny equation back then. Yeah, they just they wisely got out and it's 98 00:07:33.079 --> 00:07:35.319 like, yeah, good on you. Yeah, And that's what's funny, 99 00:07:35.399 --> 00:07:39.199 is like, if you think about it, aside from the three sixty generation, 100 00:07:39.839 --> 00:07:43.759 my Xbox has always been kind of like a disruptor more than anything. 101 00:07:44.199 --> 00:07:46.680 Right, They've been the one that's kind of like, oh, we're around. 102 00:07:47.439 --> 00:07:51.199 They've made trends happen, especially in the three sixty era with with the 103 00:07:51.240 --> 00:07:55.720 way that they had you know, Halo and Gears and well that thing. 104 00:07:55.800 --> 00:07:58.600 But yeah, go ahead, the through sixty just had I mean, the 105 00:07:58.720 --> 00:08:03.040 Xbox just has its good point, like it's good gaming genres like racing games 106 00:08:03.120 --> 00:08:09.199 or first persecutors even before call Dude and Ship, and I would say more 107 00:08:09.279 --> 00:08:15.639 online focused than PlayStation right. Uh, they're big champion of indies. Yeah, 108 00:08:16.240 --> 00:08:20.399 but you know it's they're still not winning the console wars or you know, 109 00:08:20.680 --> 00:08:24.680 like yeah, and that's the thing that, like Phil Spencer said in 110 00:08:24.720 --> 00:08:28.160 that last interview, they are thinking beyond the console wars, and people that 111 00:08:28.240 --> 00:08:31.319 are most of the people that are getting upset about this are the ones that 112 00:08:31.360 --> 00:08:35.600 are still in the console wars and they're you're they're our age and they past 113 00:08:35.600 --> 00:08:39.399 the console wars. Well, the ones that are probably upset probably the Xbox 114 00:08:39.440 --> 00:08:43.879 fanboys, because they're like, right, like we you know, we invested 115 00:08:43.919 --> 00:08:46.559 all our energy and time into this and now they're staying like, hey, 116 00:08:46.720 --> 00:08:50.799 they give this up, right, you know. That's the thing though, 117 00:08:50.799 --> 00:08:54.879 it's like, can we expect Xbox to keep our well, Microsoft to keep 118 00:08:54.919 --> 00:09:00.720 bank rolling consoles if they're not selling what they need to sell. You know 119 00:09:00.840 --> 00:09:05.039 that that's insane. Even even if Microsoft makes all this money, like, 120 00:09:05.039 --> 00:09:09.600 you can't expect them to just, oh, we're gonna keep making consoles because 121 00:09:11.120 --> 00:09:16.279 it's something that we can do when the audience for that keeps getting smaller and 122 00:09:16.320 --> 00:09:20.120 smaller and smaller. And then not only that, but you're not pushing your 123 00:09:20.120 --> 00:09:24.960 console because you're trying to get everything everywhere else. You have game Pass, 124 00:09:26.039 --> 00:09:31.360 that's everywhere you're trying to get you have. He says that in the end 125 00:09:31.399 --> 00:09:35.759 of the interview, even though two of the two of the things of game 126 00:09:35.799 --> 00:09:39.919 Pass are paying for multiplayer, but he says paying for multiplayer is antiquated. 127 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:45.039 I don't know if we're gonna eventually get to the point where we just we're 128 00:09:45.039 --> 00:09:48.519 not paying for multiplayer. We're just paying for game Pass, and game Pass 129 00:09:48.720 --> 00:09:58.240 includes multiplayer as well. Like yeah, so like that's the thing is now. 130 00:09:58.600 --> 00:10:01.399 I don't think it's gonna be real until they actually have the thing you 131 00:10:01.440 --> 00:10:05.759 can connect to your TV. Then when once they were introduced that, I 132 00:10:05.759 --> 00:10:09.919 think that's when we need to start worrying quote unquote about whether you're going to 133 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:13.759 have the console. Now. I do worry about the console because what happens 134 00:10:13.799 --> 00:10:18.279 to all of my stuff that gets saved? Like are you going to open 135 00:10:18.360 --> 00:10:22.879 up an infinite amount of cloud space for me to have all the stuff that 136 00:10:22.960 --> 00:10:26.879 I have on my console saved? I mean, where is all of that 137 00:10:28.000 --> 00:10:31.320 gonna be? Am I going to have to? Is everything going to be 138 00:10:31.360 --> 00:10:35.679 loaded to the cloud? And you know, let's say I want to pull 139 00:10:35.720 --> 00:10:39.279 out rock Band and play my songs, Like where are those songs going to 140 00:10:39.360 --> 00:10:43.879 be? Right? That's that's part of my thing is the console is such 141 00:10:43.919 --> 00:10:48.080 a nice thing to have. As somebody that's always had a console since the 142 00:10:48.159 --> 00:10:52.120 Super Nintendo, it is some kind of a weird thing to think that, 143 00:10:52.919 --> 00:10:56.679 oh, yes, it's convenient. I'm just sticking this little thing that I 144 00:10:56.679 --> 00:11:01.840 can take anywhere with me like a Chrome cast or whatever. Every lugget it. 145 00:11:01.039 --> 00:11:07.200 Yeah, it or for Stadia. Yeah. I just you know, 146 00:11:07.879 --> 00:11:11.360 I don't think I think, for one, we need to think about this 147 00:11:11.039 --> 00:11:15.960 until we have the infrastructure where most of the world, which may be never 148 00:11:16.360 --> 00:11:20.919 or at least not in our lifetimes, most of the world could be without 149 00:11:20.000 --> 00:11:26.120 some kind of console because the cloud is so good or some kind of connection 150 00:11:26.519 --> 00:11:31.240 that the little dongle is so good. Until that happens, I think we're 151 00:11:31.240 --> 00:11:35.360 still getting consoles. We're definitely getting consoles in the next generation. In twenty 152 00:11:35.360 --> 00:11:39.720 twenty eight, there's a big rumor going around that Gear six and the mid 153 00:11:39.759 --> 00:11:43.320 gen console are going to be announced at the Game Awards for Xbox that's already 154 00:11:43.360 --> 00:11:48.759 in existence now. Not granted, it's an all digital console that's basically the 155 00:11:48.799 --> 00:11:52.919 series X but all digital, and it's going to be the same price with 156 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:56.519 the same innards and everything else, so it's not really going to be anything 157 00:11:56.759 --> 00:12:03.039 totally special. It's like the PS five Slim basically. So yeah, I 158 00:12:03.480 --> 00:12:07.200 just think that we're like going crazy about something that it is inevitable we're eventually 159 00:12:07.240 --> 00:12:11.960 going to get to the point where they may not be consoles on either side. 160 00:12:11.080 --> 00:12:15.360 Even Jim Ryan has said something about the effect that the PS five. 161 00:12:15.720 --> 00:12:18.480 I don't think so, but the PS five could be the last console. 162 00:12:18.399 --> 00:12:22.679 I think we kind of need to get off this train of like, oh 163 00:12:22.720 --> 00:12:26.360 my god, that's it. Xbox is over and PlayStation Nintendo have won, 164 00:12:26.679 --> 00:12:31.519 and like they're already winning. Xbox is not winning, and that and that 165 00:12:31.559 --> 00:12:39.279 conceit, right, this is why they're doubling down on game publishers and getting 166 00:12:39.519 --> 00:12:45.919 so that they can have games and game ips that sustain them beyond just the 167 00:12:45.960 --> 00:12:50.799 console war that they're never going to win because look at look at I think 168 00:12:50.840 --> 00:12:56.639 Epic Games is a great example. Theme is so powerful. It doesn't matter 169 00:12:56.639 --> 00:13:01.440 how many times Epic gets a a exclusive. They're not winning. They're not 170 00:13:01.600 --> 00:13:05.720 going to beat Steam at their own game, especially when Steam is releasing Steam 171 00:13:05.720 --> 00:13:11.240 Decks now, Like it's just it's not going to happen. And unless Sony 172 00:13:11.279 --> 00:13:16.200 falls, unless PlayStation falls off a cliff, which is not going to happen, 173 00:13:16.759 --> 00:13:20.080 they're not gonna win either. So why keep fighting a losing battle? 174 00:13:20.480 --> 00:13:26.360 You know, do you think it's like a huge deal outside of the you 175 00:13:26.399 --> 00:13:30.519 know that people that just want an Xbox console. But like I saw someone 176 00:13:30.720 --> 00:13:33.559 say that if xbos did go third party. It would be really bad for 177 00:13:33.600 --> 00:13:37.120 the industry because then Sony Andenda could do whatever they wanted. Is there a 178 00:13:37.159 --> 00:13:41.679 worry from you on that end of now? Because they can already do whatever. 179 00:13:41.840 --> 00:13:45.679 I mean, they already can't do whatever they want. Like they could 180 00:13:45.720 --> 00:13:48.559 release if they said, hey, the PlayStation six is going to be one 181 00:13:48.559 --> 00:13:52.919 thousand dollars and if you don't eat it like it eat shit, They're like, 182 00:13:52.919 --> 00:13:56.519 all right, well, they're the only gaming I mean, there's always 183 00:13:56.559 --> 00:14:00.360 a PC, you know, if people are actually like worried about that, 184 00:14:01.120 --> 00:14:03.159 and most shit comes to the PC nowadays anyway, Yeah, I mean, 185 00:14:03.720 --> 00:14:09.159 do you think that like having all these like portable consoles helps in that regard 186 00:14:09.240 --> 00:14:15.320 of making I wouldn't say nintento because they're kind of like in their own little 187 00:14:15.639 --> 00:14:18.200 world about what they do. But like even if s bus wasn't around, 188 00:14:18.919 --> 00:14:24.279 doesn't that kind of keep PlayStation honest in a way because you don't have to 189 00:14:24.360 --> 00:14:26.440 have this super amazing PC to be able to play these games. You can 190 00:14:26.480 --> 00:14:31.519 technically play them on a Steam deck or a rog alleyra Lenovo whatever you know. 191 00:14:33.360 --> 00:14:37.480 Right, The micro the portal console thing is kind of interesting to me, 192 00:14:37.679 --> 00:14:41.279 but only I mean if I was gonna get when, I probably want 193 00:14:41.279 --> 00:14:45.440 to get the Steam Deck because the other two or five or whatever seen a 194 00:14:45.440 --> 00:14:50.000 little hit or mess. Yeah, especially the the sc card thing with the 195 00:14:50.120 --> 00:14:54.960 RAJ. But yeah, the Lenovo one looks pretty interesting to me. I've 196 00:14:56.000 --> 00:14:58.879 thought about it, but it's like, uh yeah, especially the the you 197 00:14:58.879 --> 00:15:05.679 know that's Scott mentions the Steam Deck OLED, which is a way better version 198 00:15:05.720 --> 00:15:11.519 of the Steam Deck in every way, basically, not to mention the OLED 199 00:15:11.519 --> 00:15:13.360 screen, which I still can't believe Nintendo is going to go back to the 200 00:15:13.519 --> 00:15:18.639 LCD with the switch to or whatever that's going to be after the success of 201 00:15:18.679 --> 00:15:22.600 the the Nintendo Switch old it and how much everybody says, wow, this 202 00:15:22.720 --> 00:15:26.759 is so much better, you know, yeah, because it's cheaper, like 203 00:15:26.960 --> 00:15:31.039 the same. Well, but I mean you're paying for quality, right, 204 00:15:31.200 --> 00:15:33.919 Like now you're paying because you want you want to play the New Mario game, 205 00:15:35.480 --> 00:15:37.960 right, But I mean, like, what did you say that your 206 00:15:37.039 --> 00:15:45.480 games are worth that fifty dollars extra unless unless unless the unless they're already going 207 00:15:45.519 --> 00:15:48.960 to be like the margin on the console is like very slim, right, 208 00:15:48.960 --> 00:15:52.200 I mean that's the thing. Like they don't want to Nintendo doesn't be losing 209 00:15:52.240 --> 00:15:54.480 money on this time. So I imagine even if the Switch two does have 210 00:15:54.480 --> 00:15:58.320 an LED, like give it three or four years, so releas an old 211 00:15:58.399 --> 00:16:00.320 model and then you can go back that when I'm sad, exactly. Yeah, 212 00:16:00.440 --> 00:16:06.399 it's basically so they can have something to upgrade to because and once I 213 00:16:06.600 --> 00:16:10.360 switch to and calls or guts or whatever, it's cheaper, because of course 214 00:16:10.360 --> 00:16:15.200 it will. So yeah, yeah, it's just it's one of these things 215 00:16:15.200 --> 00:16:22.200 where I think we're overblowing this. It's interesting that they talk about, you 216 00:16:22.240 --> 00:16:26.600 know, all the things he talks about in that Thing's basically like this is 217 00:16:26.639 --> 00:16:30.039 a strategy they've employed for a while now, Like they don't announce console sales 218 00:16:30.080 --> 00:16:34.039 because they don't care about not that they don't care, but they don't focus 219 00:16:34.159 --> 00:16:41.159 on console sales. Right. They're trying to improve game pass by having Activision 220 00:16:41.240 --> 00:16:45.039 Blizzard games in here, give you more reason to pay that seventeen dollars a 221 00:16:45.080 --> 00:16:49.600 month or whatever it is you're paying for that. It's interesting how they talked 222 00:16:49.600 --> 00:16:56.440 about he said how they went to Satya Nadella and taught when they wanted to 223 00:16:56.440 --> 00:17:00.200 get Minecraft, and the whole story that he gave about that and That's kind 224 00:17:00.240 --> 00:17:03.720 of what got Saughtia to talk to think about like where they want to go 225 00:17:03.840 --> 00:17:07.680 with with gaming. Is it all kind of started when they went with Minecraft. 226 00:17:07.279 --> 00:17:12.880 Yeah, he does mention the World of Warcraft in the Xbox console hardware, 227 00:17:14.759 --> 00:17:18.319 but he does mention that that subscription is also a high margin business. 228 00:17:18.359 --> 00:17:22.279 So I don't think that subscription for World of Warcraft's going anywhere. I know 229 00:17:22.359 --> 00:17:26.079 people want it to go away because I get it, right, Like, 230 00:17:26.759 --> 00:17:29.839 that's kind of the thing that keeps me aside from not having the time. 231 00:17:30.200 --> 00:17:33.160 It's also the thing that keeps me away from fom Fantasy fourteen. It's like, 232 00:17:33.759 --> 00:17:37.079 do I really want to play a subscription for one game when I already 233 00:17:37.079 --> 00:17:41.480 play subscriptions to have access to multiple games between PlayStation and Xbox, Like it 234 00:17:41.519 --> 00:17:45.119 doesn't well, I mean yeah, the counter to that, I guess would 235 00:17:45.160 --> 00:17:49.480 be like, well, you know you can if you play for a month, 236 00:17:49.519 --> 00:17:52.200 you can play you can see Dan there a lot of stuff in that 237 00:17:52.279 --> 00:17:56.279 game, right, Plus you could play three up to I think it's Shadow 238 00:17:56.319 --> 00:18:00.759 Burners now, So yeah, I think wild might still have a free trial 239 00:18:00.920 --> 00:18:04.039 or you know, for some three months or something like. But and also 240 00:18:04.240 --> 00:18:08.559 neither of those games has like and they have stories, but it's not integral 241 00:18:08.599 --> 00:18:14.519 to the actual game necessarily. I mean by five Fantasy fourteen is a little 242 00:18:14.559 --> 00:18:17.799 better about that, but no one cares about Wow story. Yeah, I 243 00:18:17.799 --> 00:18:21.960 mean they're trying to make you care with that three part expansions. Yeah, 244 00:18:22.000 --> 00:18:26.480 but good luck once you like, once you face death and one of the 245 00:18:26.519 --> 00:18:29.839 expansions, it's like, okay, everything else kind of seems a little a 246 00:18:29.880 --> 00:18:33.720 little less important. Scott does bring up a good point that they could add 247 00:18:33.720 --> 00:18:40.759 a game Pass subscription that also adds Yeah, like a subscription ten bucks or 248 00:18:40.839 --> 00:18:45.519 yeah, like you know by the games Pass Ultimate or I mean more Ultimate, 249 00:18:45.640 --> 00:18:48.720 and then you can get Wow or whatever. Yeah, because you still 250 00:18:48.759 --> 00:18:51.440 have because the scrolls online, you also have to play a sub as well. 251 00:18:52.039 --> 00:18:53.880 Yeah, so that that would kind of let them put that in there 252 00:18:55.000 --> 00:18:59.839 too. And I mean they own that par so didn't Sony have that with 253 00:19:00.119 --> 00:19:03.400 like their MMOs a long time ago, like not game pass, but it's 254 00:19:03.440 --> 00:19:07.359 like Station Pass or something like that. I think I know we should talking 255 00:19:07.400 --> 00:19:11.200 about it was a City Hero. I don't know, maybe it wasn't so 256 00:19:11.240 --> 00:19:12.200 any I think it might have been Arena Net or something, but as like 257 00:19:12.240 --> 00:19:17.079 City of heroes and a whole bunch of other mmls that you don't care about, 258 00:19:17.160 --> 00:19:18.640 and they're like, here you go. Yeah, I mean it is 259 00:19:18.680 --> 00:19:23.480 an interesting prospect, like that could be a way to get people that aren't 260 00:19:23.480 --> 00:19:27.200 in game Pass right now, right that are coming over from the Activis and 261 00:19:27.240 --> 00:19:32.519 Bushard thing from Battle Neet and all that, and hey, here get five 262 00:19:32.559 --> 00:19:34.519 dollars off your subscription. You pay every month and you get game Pass and 263 00:19:34.559 --> 00:19:37.799 you get all the stuff that's in game Pass too, and it's a way 264 00:19:37.839 --> 00:19:42.200 to get game Pass subscribers. So again they're thinking about ways for them to 265 00:19:42.200 --> 00:19:48.160 pump that up, which is what they want, right Yeah, So yeah, 266 00:19:48.279 --> 00:19:52.599 it's this will continue to be a revolving door. Interesting to see when 267 00:19:52.599 --> 00:19:56.160 this mobile gaming store from Microsoft happens. Of course, they're gonna have to 268 00:19:56.200 --> 00:19:59.240 deal with Apple again, which they had the problem when they try to put 269 00:19:59.279 --> 00:20:04.880 game Pass on the iOS store, So we'll see what happens with all that. 270 00:20:04.920 --> 00:20:10.599 But yeah, this will continue to be a thing that's talked about until 271 00:20:10.640 --> 00:20:14.319 it actually happens. But I I do fully expect that one of the things 272 00:20:14.359 --> 00:20:18.319 we're gonna see at the Game Awards is uh, they they did say they're 273 00:20:18.319 --> 00:20:21.839 going to have exciting announcements this time, which is good, especially when last 274 00:20:21.880 --> 00:20:25.240 year they had nothing. Uh. One of them is going to be the 275 00:20:25.240 --> 00:20:27.559 console that I don't know how many people are really gonna care about having that 276 00:20:27.680 --> 00:20:32.240 midchen console that has nothing new on it. And also the fact that it 277 00:20:32.319 --> 00:20:33.640 kind of looks like a I think we talked about it kind of looks like 278 00:20:33.640 --> 00:20:38.799 a trash spin, the one that you pop the pop the thing with your 279 00:20:38.799 --> 00:20:44.920 foot and it opens kind of thing. But we'll see what happens there. 280 00:20:44.960 --> 00:20:48.799 But yeah, moving moving on from that, another thing that's sort of Microsoft 281 00:20:48.839 --> 00:20:52.960 adjacent, which I also don't think it's that big a deal. But again, 282 00:20:53.000 --> 00:20:56.920 we're making this a big deal because you know, uh. But the 283 00:20:56.200 --> 00:21:04.319 though is what's seen responding to Starfield negative reviews on Steam. If you yeah, 284 00:21:06.200 --> 00:21:10.599 not a good not that's not good. But if if you see any 285 00:21:10.720 --> 00:21:15.640 kind of like if you played PC games at all for a while now, 286 00:21:15.319 --> 00:21:22.559 the developers will respond, maybe not the developers, but the community manager somebody, 287 00:21:22.720 --> 00:21:26.720 right, it's responding to your review, especially if it's negative, to 288 00:21:26.759 --> 00:21:33.720 explain maybe why you know this is like that or this or or this version 289 00:21:33.799 --> 00:21:36.960 of the this, this thing that's in the game is made that way or 290 00:21:37.000 --> 00:21:40.079 whatever, and they're doing the same thing with Starfield, like why we made 291 00:21:40.079 --> 00:21:44.440 so many planets and uh, it's supposed to make you feel a certain way, 292 00:21:44.640 --> 00:21:48.559 and you know they the quote that's been used the most is well, 293 00:21:48.599 --> 00:21:52.000 when the guys land on the moon, they didn't think it was boring, 294 00:21:52.519 --> 00:21:57.319 Right, it's probably not the great greatest, Uh when the guys, yes, 295 00:21:57.480 --> 00:22:02.160 but it's like the one previous games or you know, there weren't previous 296 00:22:02.240 --> 00:22:07.039 moons that had more interesting shits. That was the only moon that we could 297 00:22:07.039 --> 00:22:11.839 get to at that time. So what right, I mean, the problem 298 00:22:11.960 --> 00:22:15.359 was like what bess it's doing? Like I think it's dumb on its face, 299 00:22:15.559 --> 00:22:19.920 but the deeper problem is, like I don't think Starfield has enough content 300 00:22:21.240 --> 00:22:26.279 or interesting content rather to keep people like engaged, right, and look at 301 00:22:26.519 --> 00:22:33.839 look at games that have had rocky launches before and they organically fixed it or 302 00:22:33.880 --> 00:22:37.319 they upgraded, you know, patches came out or DLC came out that made 303 00:22:37.920 --> 00:22:42.839 made the game's positive game like Cyberplunk or especially No Man's Sky, Like No 304 00:22:42.880 --> 00:22:48.000 Man's Sky had a terrible launch, but you know, now on Steen is 305 00:22:48.079 --> 00:22:53.720 an overwhelming positive. Recent reviews and mostly positive, you know, overall reviews. 306 00:22:53.839 --> 00:22:59.000 So they got to stick with Starfield if they want, if they want 307 00:22:59.000 --> 00:23:00.200 to come back. But I'll so, did you see the thing about like, 308 00:23:00.880 --> 00:23:04.160 oh, player base, the Starfield has dropped off after a month because 309 00:23:04.200 --> 00:23:11.200 you know two months now yeah, three months almost were right now. But 310 00:23:11.319 --> 00:23:14.920 it's like, well, yeah, because people people played it or people beat 311 00:23:14.960 --> 00:23:17.279 it, like it's a single player game. At the end of the day, 312 00:23:17.279 --> 00:23:19.480 they they don't go to stick around. I mean, wait until mod 313 00:23:19.519 --> 00:23:26.039 tools come out, like real mod stuff or uh you know, expansions or 314 00:23:26.079 --> 00:23:30.359 DLC. I mean it's the same thing that happened with Fallout and with like 315 00:23:30.519 --> 00:23:36.880 Skyrim. I think Skyrim did it better, but they still had a drop 316 00:23:36.920 --> 00:23:41.119 off. I mean, but those games are not like oh it's you know, 317 00:23:41.759 --> 00:23:44.640 the player bases down. We gotta we gotta press the big button to 318 00:23:44.680 --> 00:23:48.079 fix it. It's like, no, like those games are enduring. Will 319 00:23:49.079 --> 00:23:56.440 Skyrim has this like longevity where they have put it on all these consoles for 320 00:23:56.480 --> 00:24:00.200 a reason, right because people will will go back and play it. Well, 321 00:24:00.680 --> 00:24:03.440 they could do that, I mean they can't do that with Starfield now, 322 00:24:03.079 --> 00:24:07.839 right, yeah, But I think it's like we got to remember No 323 00:24:07.920 --> 00:24:11.640 Man's Sky has all this time where they've been able to improve the game, 324 00:24:11.799 --> 00:24:17.599 add things to it. It's a continuous, like ongoing game as well. 325 00:24:17.720 --> 00:24:19.400 You know, No Man's Sky has been on for almost ten years. It's 326 00:24:19.480 --> 00:24:25.640 crazy to think, Yeah, but you'd also look look at that and go, 327 00:24:26.559 --> 00:24:29.039 you might you might have taken a few cues from it, you know, 328 00:24:29.279 --> 00:24:33.400 or maybe not stolen stuff, but go like, hey, people like 329 00:24:33.440 --> 00:24:37.839 shift combat, Uh, maybe we can make that focal point in our game. 330 00:24:37.960 --> 00:24:40.880 And I was like, Nah, let's just have a big dialogue trade 331 00:24:40.880 --> 00:24:45.440 instead, right, But I mean they could also add expansions that focus on 332 00:24:45.480 --> 00:24:49.119 these things and put that all of the times, and how much ex you 333 00:24:49.160 --> 00:24:56.480 want to support it. I would imagine since we're not getting other scrolls anytime 334 00:24:56.559 --> 00:25:00.519 soon, you would be supporting that if you're But does it because that's the 335 00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:07.039 only thing you have right now? That that is really something that's could continue 336 00:25:07.119 --> 00:25:11.839 to be a progressively getting better game. I mean, you've already had this 337 00:25:11.920 --> 00:25:15.480 problem of Red Fall. You've actually tried to make it a better game, 338 00:25:17.279 --> 00:25:19.960 you know it. Scott brings up that they're retaining half of the staff to 339 00:25:21.000 --> 00:25:25.480 work on the game, So I think that says a lot about It does 340 00:25:25.559 --> 00:25:30.599 have its fans, it has people that are champions of it, and I 341 00:25:30.599 --> 00:25:37.960 think they ign had a story of Nico who's on Twitter. He like did 342 00:25:37.000 --> 00:25:41.640 New Game Plus like thirty three times and he finally found something crazy thing that 343 00:25:41.720 --> 00:25:47.440 happened that he got to experience. That's cool when you get those moments in 344 00:25:47.480 --> 00:25:51.799 games like that. That's kind of what they want you to do with that 345 00:25:51.880 --> 00:25:55.400 game. But they have things they can add to that game that hopefully they 346 00:25:55.480 --> 00:26:00.519 take all of this negative stuff and say, Okay, let's prove that. 347 00:26:00.599 --> 00:26:03.160 Let's use CYBERPUNKA as an example. They're about to do their two point one 348 00:26:03.240 --> 00:26:07.880 up that they just announced all the stuff for today, and they're adding stuff 349 00:26:07.920 --> 00:26:11.839 that even I think there's a there's a tweet from one of the devs that 350 00:26:11.880 --> 00:26:15.960 said they were never going to add metro a metro system, and then guess 351 00:26:17.000 --> 00:26:21.640 what's in the two point one update a metro system. So doing things like 352 00:26:21.720 --> 00:26:26.440 that that adds more life to the game, Like you can apparently you're going 353 00:26:26.519 --> 00:26:30.839 to have be able to spend time with your partner like as if they were, 354 00:26:30.920 --> 00:26:34.039 you know, your partner in real life. Like that's small things. 355 00:26:34.079 --> 00:26:37.720 At the end of the day. But all of those things together make it 356 00:26:37.759 --> 00:26:42.119 look like a really cool game, and anybody that goes on Game Pass later 357 00:26:42.160 --> 00:26:47.599 in place for the first time, they can experience the whole thing. Oh 358 00:26:47.759 --> 00:26:51.640 yeah, I think Also, I think a lot of them marketing didn't help 359 00:26:51.680 --> 00:26:56.440 Starfield, Like the very long, you know, twenty minute video footage of 360 00:26:56.480 --> 00:27:00.880 like this is how you can build your ship. It's like, don't don't 361 00:27:00.880 --> 00:27:03.000 show that like that. That might be better, like leave it, leave 362 00:27:03.039 --> 00:27:07.119 it as a surprise to people, or you know, but then you know, 363 00:27:07.279 --> 00:27:11.559 experience it organically or you know. I mean. Also, the overhype 364 00:27:11.599 --> 00:27:15.559 didn't help it either. Oh, it's the game of the generation, people, 365 00:27:15.640 --> 00:27:19.160 we all need to like it, right, Let's not put you know, 366 00:27:19.160 --> 00:27:22.559 we're gonna talk about Grand Theft Auto six a little bit later. That 367 00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:26.839 we don't need to put Grand Theft Auto six expectations on every game that comes 368 00:27:26.880 --> 00:27:30.319 out, because ninety nine point nine percent of the time they're not going to 369 00:27:30.400 --> 00:27:37.519 live up to that. That's an extreme expectation that you're giving for that game. 370 00:27:37.160 --> 00:27:41.240 And and it's like and it's most of the time it's the Xbox people 371 00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:44.920 that like, we have to have a game that everybody and their mother talks 372 00:27:44.960 --> 00:27:48.920 about like we have to have the Last of Us game. We have to 373 00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:53.759 have uh you know insert whatever Sony big thing here. Yeah, it's like, 374 00:27:53.920 --> 00:28:00.720 oh, we need to have our our Halo moment for twenty twenty two 375 00:28:00.920 --> 00:28:06.039 or three or whatever. It's like not really, not really. What you 376 00:28:06.079 --> 00:28:10.480 need to just have is a great catalog of games. They don't all need 377 00:28:10.480 --> 00:28:15.200 to be the highest tier on planet Earth. We don't. So Tony gets 378 00:28:15.240 --> 00:28:21.079 that because there are these like wonderful narrative experiences and a hit Last of Us 379 00:28:21.160 --> 00:28:25.200 hit at a time where you didn't have stuff like that. I don't know 380 00:28:25.279 --> 00:28:30.599 what else you can really do today that hasn't been done already. You'll have 381 00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:36.519 shocks from like indies like Vampire Survivor or you know, like even David Diver 382 00:28:36.680 --> 00:28:38.039 this year, which is not Indy, but I'm just bringing up a point, 383 00:28:40.839 --> 00:28:44.400 and some other experiences we've had from like Triple As. But a lot 384 00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:48.920 of the creative stuff comes from indies and then it's translated into Triple A. 385 00:28:48.960 --> 00:28:52.799 It's very hard for Triple A to like be the one that pushes everything. 386 00:28:53.519 --> 00:29:00.039 You know, Hi Fi Rush probably is, as Scott brings up, it 387 00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:03.559 might be the best game that released this year, because they actually have creative 388 00:29:03.559 --> 00:29:07.720 stuff in it. In a way, you could probably say it's more creative 389 00:29:07.759 --> 00:29:11.240 than whatever Starfield did, because I think you can make the big argument that 390 00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:17.200 Starfield is basically just Skyrim or Fallout in Space. Yeah, exactly, exactly. 391 00:29:17.240 --> 00:29:19.720 That's the whole thing is. I mean, if you care about creativity, 392 00:29:19.759 --> 00:29:23.680 then yeah, Starfield is basically you know, it has a cool shipbuilder, 393 00:29:23.720 --> 00:29:27.200 but that's about it, you know. Yeah. Randy brings up a 394 00:29:27.240 --> 00:29:30.079 good point too. Starfield's given game of the generation and when all we had 395 00:29:30.200 --> 00:29:34.000 was a logo for all those years. Uh too. Yeah, we don't 396 00:29:34.000 --> 00:29:37.720 need we don't need to keep doing that. But hopefully Starfield is able to 397 00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:44.240 improve upon itself. I want to bring up a point about the whole reviewing 398 00:29:44.279 --> 00:29:47.519 thing. You said it looks bad, but I don't think it looks bad 399 00:29:47.799 --> 00:29:52.920 in the I would like developers to tell me why they put made decisions in 400 00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:59.319 games. Okay, it does? It looks yeah, desperate? Okay, 401 00:29:59.799 --> 00:30:03.000 it is it? Only is it desperate because it's Bethessa doing it. Is 402 00:30:03.039 --> 00:30:07.079 that why we're saying that. I would say it's unless it's like a two 403 00:30:07.119 --> 00:30:10.559 man team or like some dude making a game on Steam, like you know, 404 00:30:10.960 --> 00:30:14.119 uh, the guy who made a gun Point It was like one dude 405 00:30:14.119 --> 00:30:17.279 who make that game like Entnight. It's also the same thing. Yeah, 406 00:30:17.519 --> 00:30:19.440 guy, If it's like him responding to people and going like oh, if 407 00:30:21.000 --> 00:30:23.599 you're not playing the game correctly or you know, something like that, that's 408 00:30:23.640 --> 00:30:30.160 fine. But if it's an actual, like big studio, you know, 409 00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:37.079 like taking the time to respond to people's dumb ass reviews like that that that 410 00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:41.920 whiss of like desperation and like this like the building's on fire or something like 411 00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:47.279 that, like oh my god, we gotta we can't let the Steam recent 412 00:30:47.400 --> 00:30:51.240 reviews get to get to mostly negative or you know, mixed, because okay, 413 00:30:52.319 --> 00:30:55.279 okay, I can kind of see your point, right, they're they're 414 00:30:55.400 --> 00:30:59.000 too big. They should be above that. But I also think that that's 415 00:30:59.319 --> 00:31:03.440 that's wrong for us to say that a big publisher can't come out and try 416 00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:07.039 to explain itself of why, because like if it was a big if it 417 00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:11.519 was like a big post or just a big you know, something like that, 418 00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:15.839 that would be fine, I guess. But I think the problem is 419 00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:18.519 the way that Steam has made They're not going to read that, but they 420 00:31:18.519 --> 00:31:21.480 are going to read when they go through and read review like somebody that's interested 421 00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:25.279 in buying the game right, that doesn't that that isn't interested in having game 422 00:31:25.359 --> 00:31:29.000 passed. They just want to buy this one game, right, And they 423 00:31:29.000 --> 00:31:30.960 go back and let's say it's six months from now, if all of the 424 00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:37.960 reviews that are there are negative, and nobody's explaining to me why maybe they 425 00:31:38.039 --> 00:31:42.319 thought this or thought that if I see those counter courseman developers, I might 426 00:31:42.359 --> 00:31:47.680 go do more research about the game and it might turn me into going, 427 00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:48.680 you know what, I'm gonna get a shot. I like their other games 428 00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:52.200 or whatever. I do think there's a point to that. I don't know. 429 00:31:52.359 --> 00:31:55.640 It's just to me, I don't I don't see it. Why is 430 00:31:55.680 --> 00:31:57.759 it okay for an indie Dead to do it and not them? Because the 431 00:31:57.799 --> 00:32:04.119 indie Dead has more crew were credit for what? Okay, more credit of 432 00:32:04.160 --> 00:32:09.680 what? Though? More credibility okay, But they're they're offto a dev like 433 00:32:10.079 --> 00:32:15.240 they're just trying to make sure that you understand there. Yeah. Yeah, 434 00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:20.960 the difference between the developer like you know, the guy in the basement responding 435 00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:24.759 to someone and like, but that's just pr firm or possess a marketing team 436 00:32:24.799 --> 00:32:30.319 responding to reviews as well, it's the guys. The guy responding on the 437 00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:31.920 Steam review is like, hey, I'm the guy. I'm the guy in 438 00:32:31.960 --> 00:32:37.839 Starfield who built the ships or built part of the you know, ship building 439 00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:44.599 system. That would be kind of okay or kind of more interesting because you 440 00:32:44.599 --> 00:32:47.039 could pick that guy or girl's brain about well, why can't I do this 441 00:32:47.240 --> 00:32:52.240 or why can't like this or whatever. But if it's just some PR flack 442 00:32:52.359 --> 00:32:57.400 or some PR flunky going like, hey, Starfield's great, more people should 443 00:32:57.400 --> 00:33:00.039 be playing it all these that's not really that. It's not really what they're 444 00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:06.200 saying, but I mean they're actually going into his point and explaining why the 445 00:33:06.359 --> 00:33:09.440 whole example we gave is not the greatest. It's like Scott said, landing 446 00:33:09.480 --> 00:33:15.039 on the moon is not the same as landing on the planet. But you 447 00:33:15.079 --> 00:33:23.200 know, Randy, thank you for for disagreeable work on this on this thing. 448 00:33:23.319 --> 00:33:28.319 But I you know it is to me. I don't care. As 449 00:33:28.359 --> 00:33:32.200 long as they don't get rude with the person, as long as they make 450 00:33:32.200 --> 00:33:35.680 good points, I have no problem with it, because at the end of 451 00:33:35.680 --> 00:33:38.640 the day, you're protecting your IP. You want people to buy this game 452 00:33:38.759 --> 00:33:44.240 later on, and that's that's it. At the end of the day, 453 00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:47.440 it's to make it look better. Right now, it doesn't look great. 454 00:33:49.119 --> 00:33:52.680 The guy that did hold no man, Scott, he had to come out 455 00:33:52.720 --> 00:33:55.519 and do a whole pr thing as well. Like I, you know, 456 00:33:55.720 --> 00:34:00.079 I don't think that it's bad to this, Yeah, Sean, I forget 457 00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:05.599 the guys like last name right right. But the thing is that he just 458 00:34:05.880 --> 00:34:09.239 he would just come out and give interviews. I wasn't responding people directly on 459 00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:14.760 their Steam reviews, you know. I would argue that Steam reviews are more 460 00:34:14.760 --> 00:34:19.800 important now than they used to be, what twenty sixteen seventeen when that game 461 00:34:19.840 --> 00:34:24.400 came out, so I could I can see the basis of why they're doing 462 00:34:24.440 --> 00:34:35.039 it. But yeah, moving on to another topic here, because we had 463 00:34:36.039 --> 00:34:42.639 Dragon's Dogma have the direct I thought the game looked. I thought what they 464 00:34:42.719 --> 00:34:46.440 introduced with the game looks fun. A lot of it is more Dragon's Dogma. 465 00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:52.199 But I don't know if you saw any of this. No, I'm 466 00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:55.239 kind of well, I don't know if I'll get the game at launch, 467 00:34:55.360 --> 00:34:59.239 but I kind of just want to be surprised or just you know, okay 468 00:34:59.320 --> 00:35:02.320 for myself. Fair like I saw like the earlier trailer and I know this 469 00:35:02.400 --> 00:35:07.159 one has like a lot more Dan Drey Hill voice acting, so it's like, 470 00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:12.039 yeah, they they showed, like I had the different things you can 471 00:35:12.079 --> 00:35:16.480 do to attack these big enemies that come in and uh they have like break 472 00:35:16.519 --> 00:35:20.760 points that you need to hit for them to go down and stuff like that 473 00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:24.480 looked really fun. So I likeed the Dragons Dama one, So yeah, 474 00:35:24.840 --> 00:35:30.800 I'm sure I will enjoy Dragons Dama two. Uh. The kind of quote 475 00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:32.599 unquote, I guess. Big thing that comes out of it, aside from 476 00:35:32.679 --> 00:35:37.360 it's releasing on March twenty second, is the fact that this is Capcom's first 477 00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:44.480 seventy dollars game. Sega, uh no their Capcom like a Dragon No, 478 00:35:44.480 --> 00:35:47.280 I'm not tik gonna like a Dragons Dragons Dogma. Oh I'm sorry yeah yeah, 479 00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:52.559 uh yeah for a second. Yeah yeah, uh you know makes sense, 480 00:35:53.320 --> 00:35:58.239 well kind of makes sense. It depends on Dragon's Dogma is like a 481 00:35:58.280 --> 00:36:04.320 really weird cult hit. Yeah, I mean ainight Monster Hunter or eight you 482 00:36:04.360 --> 00:36:07.960 know, Resident Evil. We'll see if it does well too. I do 483 00:36:08.039 --> 00:36:15.880 think that I like the Nintendo version of this of maybe when it's going to 484 00:36:15.920 --> 00:36:19.760 be your first one. Explain to me a little bit about why you think 485 00:36:19.760 --> 00:36:22.360 it's seventy dollars. Scott, you know mentions, I hope it's worth seventy 486 00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:27.320 dollars, And I do think when you're making that jump ten dollars, maybe 487 00:36:27.360 --> 00:36:30.440 to you doesn't seem like a big deal, but to the to the situation 488 00:36:30.519 --> 00:36:36.000 that we're in right now with the economy and everything else, and them talking 489 00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:37.280 about how you know, they were the ones, they were one of the 490 00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:43.960 few developers that did not lay off people. They actually raised the rates the 491 00:36:43.960 --> 00:36:46.840 pay rates of their debts to keep them. So I kind of understand that. 492 00:36:46.920 --> 00:36:51.679 And he did the one that came out and said that he thinks games 493 00:36:51.719 --> 00:36:54.280 are not expensive enough. He did kind of explain it in that article. 494 00:36:54.679 --> 00:36:59.239 But I do think that for the people that maybe looking at Dragon's Dogma and 495 00:36:59.239 --> 00:37:00.559 going, oh, I like first game, like it's a game, and 496 00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:05.440 are into the news all the time, I do think that it it bears 497 00:37:05.480 --> 00:37:08.559 explaining a little bit, like we think this is a premium title, that 498 00:37:09.119 --> 00:37:12.880 it's gonna offer this, this, and this and it this is why it's 499 00:37:12.880 --> 00:37:15.800 seventy dollars. You know. My two points would be if if someone said 500 00:37:15.880 --> 00:37:20.960 I like the first game. Believe me, they're into the game news because 501 00:37:21.599 --> 00:37:23.920 yeah no, no, no, random person. It's like, I'm gonna 502 00:37:23.960 --> 00:37:29.679 think of this dragons uh Dragon's Dogma game on the on the on the I'm 503 00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:32.960 on a whim. Yeah, well, remember, how isn't it like almost 504 00:37:34.039 --> 00:37:36.239 ten years old at this point, the first Dragons Dom. I mean you 505 00:37:36.320 --> 00:37:37.920 could have you could have been out of gaming, but you were never playing 506 00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:44.199 Dragmon's Dogma. I mean, I mean it's older. It's a let because 507 00:37:44.239 --> 00:37:45.920 those are the three sixty games. Yeah, so I'm saying, like, 508 00:37:46.239 --> 00:37:50.000 the second thing I'll point out is, you know, games used to be 509 00:37:50.039 --> 00:37:54.800 more expensive when we were kids, right, so people bitching about the price 510 00:37:54.840 --> 00:38:00.679 of games now it's like your dog look at like a Best Bicircular nineteen ninety 511 00:38:00.760 --> 00:38:05.440 three where NBA, you know, Madden ninety four is one hundred dollars like 512 00:38:06.199 --> 00:38:08.840 not not, and it's not the Collector's edition or not, like you know, 513 00:38:08.960 --> 00:38:13.000 the limited edition. The regular ass game was like one hundred dollars. 514 00:38:13.199 --> 00:38:17.800 It's like that that's more nuts to me than yeah, seventy. The one 515 00:38:17.840 --> 00:38:22.280 that I always remember is because it's it's I remember it just it stuck with 516 00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:28.159 me is I think it was like Fox College Hoops was like eighty bucks on 517 00:38:28.199 --> 00:38:31.760 the sixty four or something like that. It's like it's like that that NCAA 518 00:38:31.840 --> 00:38:36.199 licens supposed to be expensive. There's you know, yeah, like game prices 519 00:38:36.199 --> 00:38:39.400 today. I mean they're more expensive than like I guess PlayStation or n sixty 520 00:38:39.400 --> 00:38:44.400 four era, but right, they're a lot more uniform as well. Every 521 00:38:44.480 --> 00:38:46.719 Yeah, everybody is charging the same, right, that's the thing. It's 522 00:38:46.719 --> 00:38:51.199 like we're not having a bunch of games that come out and they're all different 523 00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:53.880 prices or whatever. Everybody understands, Yo, this is the price that you're 524 00:38:53.920 --> 00:38:58.280 going to charge for this game, and that's it. You know. Like 525 00:38:59.159 --> 00:39:00.719 now, if you're like an you can kind of play around with it, 526 00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:06.599 whether it's going to be twenty or thirty or whatever, you know, but 527 00:39:06.639 --> 00:39:08.000 for the most part, when you come out with a triple A game, 528 00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:12.480 you know, it's sixty or seventy. That's it. There's no yeah, 529 00:39:12.519 --> 00:39:15.079 there's no going about. Well, but then of course you can have your 530 00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:17.360 digital edition that then makes it eighty or whatever the hell. Yeah, and 531 00:39:17.400 --> 00:39:21.199 they have like you know, collectors editions or even like you know the yeah, 532 00:39:21.440 --> 00:39:24.280 limited edition or whatever. But you know that's that's just extra stuff that's 533 00:39:24.320 --> 00:39:31.559 not that's not the game itself. So you want to hear a funny PlayStation 534 00:39:31.679 --> 00:39:36.000 store quirk. Sure, this is one something you makes you want to do 535 00:39:36.840 --> 00:39:42.079 is you can preorder fanal Fantasy seven Rebirth, the Digital Deluxe version for eighty 536 00:39:42.119 --> 00:39:45.519 bucks, and that comes with the you know, the pre order bonuses and 537 00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:50.039 all that crap. Or you can pre order the other version, the bundle 538 00:39:50.119 --> 00:39:52.679 version, which it comes all the same crap but also comes with Final Fantasy 539 00:39:52.800 --> 00:39:59.400 Remake Integrade, for eighty bucks. Nice, huh. I could buy the 540 00:39:59.440 --> 00:40:02.039 game, buy one game for eighty or buy two games for eighty. Yeah, 541 00:40:02.039 --> 00:40:07.599 but if you already have the original seven remake and the DLC, it 542 00:40:07.639 --> 00:40:10.199 doesn't really do anything. Sure yeah, but it's just like the weirdest bundle 543 00:40:10.239 --> 00:40:15.320 because it's like, well, okay, I guess I'd buy the second one 544 00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:17.079 just to the hell of it, or you know, yeah, I get 545 00:40:17.159 --> 00:40:21.760 I guess for people that want to just they saw the seven Rebirth reactions or 546 00:40:21.760 --> 00:40:23.320 something, and they haven't they didn't even know seven Remake. I mean I 547 00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:27.639 don't. I don't really know who wouldn't know the seven Remake exists at this 548 00:40:27.719 --> 00:40:32.400 point. But if you don't, or you've recently gotten into somebody told me 549 00:40:32.440 --> 00:40:37.239 about Pomp Nasty seven or something and you wanted to get both and you're upgrading 550 00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:40.639 to the PS five, then I guess why not. It's a good strategy 551 00:40:42.760 --> 00:40:45.519 in a way to get to get people on board. Yeah, but you 552 00:40:45.639 --> 00:40:50.800 just assuming the seven remake one would be like twenty bucks more or you Now, 553 00:40:51.320 --> 00:40:53.639 yeah, that's that's weird thing. You know, having bundling in the 554 00:40:53.840 --> 00:40:59.199 other's fine, but bundling to get the same price, that's the weird thing. 555 00:40:59.800 --> 00:41:04.400 The one that bothers me is when they do sales and the deluxe edition 556 00:41:04.519 --> 00:41:06.599 or whatever the heck is the one that goes on sale, but then the 557 00:41:06.639 --> 00:41:09.599 regular one doesn't go on sale, which would be the one that's cheaper, 558 00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:15.440 because it's like they still want to earn more money. So I know, 559 00:41:15.519 --> 00:41:19.639 but I hate it, Like it's just like, dude, you could put 560 00:41:19.639 --> 00:41:24.039 the regular edition at like forty or thirty five or something, and all you're 561 00:41:24.039 --> 00:41:29.119 doing is they can be paid the same price for the digital deluxe edition and 562 00:41:29.239 --> 00:41:34.880 it's not. It's not helping me. So yes, sticking with Capcom for 563 00:41:34.880 --> 00:41:37.199 a little bit here, and I feel like, I know we've talked about 564 00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:45.079 this one a bunch, but they did officially confirm now that Resident Evil remakes 565 00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:51.079 are coming. There's more coming, so they're not stopping it for Yeah, 566 00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:55.079 I mean, yeah, like we it's not. But I guess it's good 567 00:41:55.079 --> 00:42:00.280 for them confirm it, right Like it's to know that they are making another 568 00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:05.159 one at least and that they they're not going to tell you right now. 569 00:42:05.159 --> 00:42:08.880 They want to be able to announce it on their own time. Scott is 570 00:42:09.159 --> 00:42:14.599 wishfully thinking that we're going to get a Code Veronica remake. I mean that's 571 00:42:14.639 --> 00:42:17.280 when everyone wants. I would say, go, I should go Code Veronica 572 00:42:17.800 --> 00:42:22.920 five and then zero. I don't think we're going to I think it's going 573 00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:27.960 to be five. I think there's isn't there That is the safer choice, 574 00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:30.719 but is also the more boring choice. Well, I mean, they probably 575 00:42:30.719 --> 00:42:34.199 want to do the one that they know is going to make the most money, 576 00:42:34.199 --> 00:42:37.119 which would probably be five. Do you think we could live in a 577 00:42:37.159 --> 00:42:40.679 world where maybe they do because they feel like Veronica is a smaller game. 578 00:42:42.400 --> 00:42:46.639 Do they do two in one maybe? Like no, Veronica is a large 579 00:42:46.679 --> 00:42:52.800 game. But okay, I'm talking about fan base wise, right, like 580 00:42:52.280 --> 00:42:57.239 maybe they feel like it's well, because why wouldn't you have done Veronica at 581 00:42:57.239 --> 00:43:00.960 this point if you feel if especially because it doesn't it finish the story of 582 00:43:01.119 --> 00:43:07.320 to remake or whatever, like why wouldn't you have at this point? So 583 00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:09.960 if you feel like it's not going to do as well as doing five, 584 00:43:10.679 --> 00:43:14.519 well do you think we could live in a world we could see like, 585 00:43:14.599 --> 00:43:17.880 oh, we're gonna do Zero remake and Coke Veronica and put them both together 586 00:43:19.440 --> 00:43:22.519 and sell you both of them now because they still want to set they still 587 00:43:22.519 --> 00:43:25.679 want to make separate products. I mean, that's why two and three weren't 588 00:43:25.719 --> 00:43:30.800 bundled together. Yeah, I mean they I think they thought about it at 589 00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:34.000 one point and then they said, oh you know what, yeah, yeah, 590 00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:37.960 we can make more money on two remakes sold probably way more than they 591 00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:40.760 thought it was going to the like oh wait a minute, let's go unbundle 592 00:43:40.880 --> 00:43:46.079 this thing like it's you know, I think I would sell I actually think 593 00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:52.280 co Ronic would tell more simply because there's more buzz about it and it's more 594 00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:57.519 of a h not indeed or not like hidden Game, but there's more kind 595 00:43:57.559 --> 00:44:01.159 of mystique about it or uh more positive feelings than five. I mean, 596 00:44:01.199 --> 00:44:05.639 five was good, but five was just kind of seen as like this iterative 597 00:44:05.719 --> 00:44:12.039 thing from four. And yeah, you know, yeah, I don't. 598 00:44:12.079 --> 00:44:14.199 I mean I was kind of joking, but I don't think Resident Evil zero 599 00:44:14.199 --> 00:44:15.400 it's all at all, because don't give it fit about that game in the 600 00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:21.199 first place. Yeah, I do think it'd be nice if you're going to 601 00:44:21.480 --> 00:44:25.559 give us the ability to play the entire remake, in the entire Resident Evil 602 00:44:25.639 --> 00:44:31.559 story from start to finish without the tank controls. But yeah, like at 603 00:44:31.559 --> 00:44:37.400 some point you're gonna run out of the remakes, so no, man, 604 00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:43.280 you know, making this remake in the remakes. Resident Evil one remake remade 605 00:44:43.840 --> 00:44:46.760 okay, well fair enough to be fair one is like far enough away where 606 00:44:46.800 --> 00:44:51.239 technically you could it is at that age where you could say, oh, 607 00:44:52.119 --> 00:44:57.000 you know, we're gonna touch this up and do a one remake remake or 608 00:44:57.000 --> 00:45:02.000 whatever, because that was two generations go now, So right, yeah, 609 00:45:04.559 --> 00:45:07.880 yeah, like you know, we've we've they've there's been hinted at this a 610 00:45:07.880 --> 00:45:09.519 bunch of times, so we've talked about this a few times already. But 611 00:45:10.360 --> 00:45:15.199 yeah, it five definitely feels like the next one. I feel like before 612 00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:19.360 you get to six, you gotta do something else, not just the next 613 00:45:19.440 --> 00:45:23.239 numbered one. Now they I mean I don't have anyone nine. Yeah, 614 00:45:23.639 --> 00:45:30.800 it'll probably go five, nine and then six and then whatever. But I 615 00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:32.079 mean I can alway steak for myself. But I think, you know, 616 00:45:32.559 --> 00:45:37.719 we want coded Veronica give it fuckers, Like yeah, do you see like 617 00:45:37.840 --> 00:45:42.840 the pattern of where they're steemingly kind of making these a bit more interconnected, 618 00:45:42.920 --> 00:45:46.719 so it makes sense why they're remaking them, Like no, no, they're 619 00:45:46.760 --> 00:45:51.400 adding kind of some some nonsense, but no, I mean there's kind of 620 00:45:51.960 --> 00:45:53.519 you know, I put a guy in the pipeline, let's us go. 621 00:45:54.800 --> 00:45:59.320 Yeah, Scott says that, uh, the order should be five to nine, 622 00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:06.480 six, one and then zero and then after that. Well it seems 623 00:46:06.519 --> 00:46:13.039 logical why not do that? But yeah, Capcom's going to be doing these 624 00:46:13.079 --> 00:46:15.760 remakes. They love them, They were making them money, so why not 625 00:46:16.280 --> 00:46:22.079 keep doing it? It works for you. Yeah, speaking of things that 626 00:46:22.159 --> 00:46:25.440 work for PlayStation, their PlayStation plus stuff has worked for them for a while. 627 00:46:25.880 --> 00:46:31.519 They announced the December ones, and they also announced the big collaboration with 628 00:46:31.679 --> 00:46:37.960 NCSoft to make various types of games as well. Lego two K Drive, 629 00:46:38.039 --> 00:46:43.320 Powerwall Simulator and Sable are going to be your December twenty twenty three, twenty 630 00:46:43.719 --> 00:46:49.480 three titles. Yeah, Simulator a shot Powerwall Simulator is great, it's fun. 631 00:46:49.559 --> 00:46:52.840 It's just like one of those games you put on a podcast. Yeah, 632 00:46:52.960 --> 00:46:55.880 yeah, here, I still want to play The Fall Fantasy seven. 633 00:46:57.599 --> 00:47:00.920 No, that was that's that's free. That's free. It's free. I 634 00:47:00.920 --> 00:47:01.800 thought I had to pay for that. Damn it. I would have done 635 00:47:01.800 --> 00:47:07.440 that already. I think it was like free if you like the day or 636 00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:10.400 a few days if for it went up. So I grabbed that, and 637 00:47:10.559 --> 00:47:15.440 there was some I think too as well. Yeah there's too Hey, get 638 00:47:15.440 --> 00:47:22.159 to I get to Powerwatch Law Across. Sign me up. Nice Lego two 639 00:47:22.199 --> 00:47:25.199 K drive. I've heard good things about Yeah. I don't think it was 640 00:47:25.840 --> 00:47:30.920 this. I think it got hyped about more than it wound up being great. 641 00:47:30.119 --> 00:47:34.840 But it's good. It's a good title to add. And Sable was 642 00:47:34.840 --> 00:47:37.639 one of the indie darlings the year it came out, like, uh, 643 00:47:38.280 --> 00:47:44.159 you know, what if you had Zelda but in the the Desert or something 644 00:47:44.199 --> 00:47:46.440 like that. I played a little bit on game Pass. I enjoyed what 645 00:47:46.519 --> 00:47:51.960 I played well, worth a good a really good month. I know a 646 00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:53.719 lot of people are like, where are the big titles? You're making us 647 00:47:53.719 --> 00:47:59.880 pay more years for this? You know you don't have to pay that. 648 00:48:00.119 --> 00:48:05.519 I'd rather have three, I would say, mid tier games rather than one 649 00:48:05.639 --> 00:48:08.119 big game and two games no one gives a shit about, because I will 650 00:48:08.159 --> 00:48:15.119 at least give Powerwall Simulator a shot rather than think about like what Xbox goal 651 00:48:15.280 --> 00:48:17.719 is doing the last two years of you know, when they were still hanging 652 00:48:17.719 --> 00:48:23.280 out free games. Yes, I totally agree with you on that. I'd 653 00:48:23.360 --> 00:48:30.039 rather get three really good games that I know I'm gonna really stick my teeth 654 00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:34.639 into instead of like two bad ones for the sake of getting an awesome, 655 00:48:35.079 --> 00:48:39.760 you know, huge triple A game, you know, unless it's something that 656 00:48:39.880 --> 00:48:45.960 like when they've done was it the first Star Wars Jedi game? Something like 657 00:48:46.000 --> 00:48:52.760 that that like you know, is not a miss right where where you're getting 658 00:48:53.039 --> 00:48:58.920 you're really getting that bang for your butt. Okay, I'm paying whatever it 659 00:48:59.039 --> 00:49:04.599 is a month yearly and I'm getting I'm getting a huge game that I've wanted. 660 00:49:05.039 --> 00:49:08.199 Sure, you know, uh what what do you make of this? 661 00:49:09.320 --> 00:49:14.639 Them also confirming that they are working on that Horizon MMO by the way, 662 00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:19.159 with NCSoft, but also in c Soft is apparently around to help them with 663 00:49:20.199 --> 00:49:27.000 making different entertainment experiences and and things like that, you know, games that 664 00:49:27.079 --> 00:49:31.119 we don't normally get from Sony basically what do you? And and mobile games 665 00:49:31.119 --> 00:49:39.519 as well. Yeah, please please don't. Also credit to Jim Ryan for 666 00:49:39.639 --> 00:49:45.079 just coming out in like a T shirt and jeans to go sign his the 667 00:49:45.159 --> 00:49:50.039 deal or whatever. Like that's when you know you're in the retired. Yeah, 668 00:49:50.039 --> 00:49:52.320 and I'm like, I don't just don't give a ship anyone anymore. 669 00:49:52.480 --> 00:49:59.320 Yeah, I don't know. I think we talked about the Horizon MMO when 670 00:49:59.360 --> 00:50:04.239 they first kind of of like said that it might be in development. Yeah, 671 00:50:04.360 --> 00:50:06.480 it's a bad idea. Then it's a bad idea. Now. So 672 00:50:07.199 --> 00:50:13.400 I get that they want to have these live service games, but I am 673 00:50:13.880 --> 00:50:16.239 in a vacuum. Live service might be okay, But when you're tying it 674 00:50:16.280 --> 00:50:22.320 to like a single player story based game or like you know, a franchise 675 00:50:22.480 --> 00:50:25.480 that the story is kind of the integral part, that's when it like really 676 00:50:25.480 --> 00:50:30.360 falls apart. Like if they made like a so Calm live service game, 677 00:50:30.400 --> 00:50:35.840 who gives a ship or you know, something like that. But no, 678 00:50:37.119 --> 00:50:40.159 yeah, I don't know how you would tie in the story if at all, 679 00:50:40.639 --> 00:50:44.920 right too, No, you wouldn't. You'd have well, unfortunately he's 680 00:50:44.920 --> 00:50:47.440 passed away, but you would have had like Lance Reddick's character go like, 681 00:50:47.519 --> 00:50:52.119 I'm recruiting you for a new initiative, and you know, you're you're gonna 682 00:50:52.119 --> 00:50:57.400 be I forget that, I think silence or something like that. You're gonna 683 00:50:57.440 --> 00:51:00.960 be like my my group and doing all these missions and you know, fucking 684 00:51:01.000 --> 00:51:05.719 up robots and stuff like that. But to me, it reminds me of 685 00:51:05.760 --> 00:51:10.119 when Assassin's created multiplayer for I think like Brotherhood, I think two other games, 686 00:51:10.159 --> 00:51:15.480 maybe at least one other one Revelations, but there's like multiplayer component and 687 00:51:15.519 --> 00:51:20.159 it's like, okay, that's kind of neat, like a neat separate thing 688 00:51:20.639 --> 00:51:22.119 or a side thing. But it wasn't the focus of the thing of the 689 00:51:22.199 --> 00:51:28.119 games. And also they stopped doing that, like because it probably wasn't it 690 00:51:28.159 --> 00:51:32.000 probably wasn't profitable enough for them to care, and no one else cared about 691 00:51:32.000 --> 00:51:37.000 it anyway. So I mean, this is a big commitment to get and 692 00:51:37.079 --> 00:51:42.440 I mean I get Ancisoft or a great company that know their thing, you 693 00:51:42.480 --> 00:51:45.480 know they do gill Wars. I mean they know it what to do when 694 00:51:45.519 --> 00:51:49.440 it comes to MMOs. But it's like, man to really, we're already 695 00:51:49.440 --> 00:51:53.400 getting to the point I think where Horizon maybe needs a break, Right, 696 00:51:53.480 --> 00:51:59.119 you have the new the new game, then you had the DLC. Then 697 00:51:59.119 --> 00:52:02.159 you're gonna have the remaster, the remake or remaster of one to put it 698 00:52:02.199 --> 00:52:07.559 on PS five. Yeah, Like, I don't know that you need this 699 00:52:07.760 --> 00:52:13.159 constant going on Horizon thing, right, especially since like I don't think that 700 00:52:13.280 --> 00:52:16.679 franchise or like that property is like capable of supporting all this crap. Like 701 00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:22.320 it's fine, but it's you know, it's it's kind of limiting because you're 702 00:52:22.599 --> 00:52:25.400 focused on like the one character and there's nowhere to really go from. Like 703 00:52:25.679 --> 00:52:30.960 you're just gonna play something no name tribal guy, but oh I'm also important 704 00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:34.559 to this story. It's like you're not. Yeah, I mean I get 705 00:52:34.599 --> 00:52:37.400 it, like you're trying to make Horizon the next big franchise that you have. 706 00:52:37.480 --> 00:52:42.559 You have the next books, TV show or whatever to and you know, 707 00:52:42.639 --> 00:52:44.920 Scott says, and we'll look at all the weather, looking at is 708 00:52:44.920 --> 00:52:47.559 all the money from last service cinmmos. But I think this is kind of 709 00:52:47.639 --> 00:52:52.760 gonna be one of the ones that's not gonna it might do well at first, 710 00:52:52.880 --> 00:52:54.480 right because everybody's gonna be excited, Oh, we'll get to play with 711 00:52:54.519 --> 00:52:59.239 my friends in Horizon and do all the stuff that you do in the Horizon 712 00:52:59.280 --> 00:53:04.440 games. But man, I can't see them constantly keeping people around for this, 713 00:53:06.280 --> 00:53:09.880 like we see it with a lot of these MMO or well MMO likes 714 00:53:09.880 --> 00:53:14.559 with the live service and then MMOs, and it's really hard to keep people 715 00:53:14.599 --> 00:53:19.679 around when it's something new and you're you're fighting with all the other ones that 716 00:53:19.719 --> 00:53:23.480 are around. It's much easier to drop the one that's new and go back 717 00:53:23.480 --> 00:53:28.920 to the one that you're used to than it is vice versa a lot of 718 00:53:28.960 --> 00:53:34.719 times. So I don't know that they're really pushing into this, and I 719 00:53:34.760 --> 00:53:39.000 could see this getting a lot of blowback instead of being a success. But 720 00:53:39.760 --> 00:53:45.079 I mean, look at Ghost of Sugimas like multiplayer stuff. People love that 721 00:53:45.159 --> 00:53:47.039 though some people, but then you know, no one, no one talks 722 00:53:47.039 --> 00:53:50.960 about it now or no one can, you know, like the first month 723 00:53:51.440 --> 00:53:54.000 and I played like for it for like a few days, like maybe a 724 00:53:54.039 --> 00:53:58.480 match or two, and then say all right, uh, we're done, 725 00:53:58.679 --> 00:54:04.159 you know, I mean it like from what I I didn't play too, 726 00:54:04.239 --> 00:54:07.400 but from what I played of one, it does have a world that you 727 00:54:07.559 --> 00:54:10.880 kind of want to I could see people you want to be in it, 728 00:54:12.599 --> 00:54:17.599 right, It does try to have a story about itself. Yeah, so 729 00:54:17.800 --> 00:54:23.199 you could grow on that, right. But uh, but like the story 730 00:54:23.239 --> 00:54:29.840 in those games is basically like you are the chosen one because you really are 731 00:54:29.719 --> 00:54:34.400 a check yeah sort of cann go oh your character. You know, you're 732 00:54:34.440 --> 00:54:37.880 also part of this group back in the day. Then you're also re cloned 733 00:54:37.920 --> 00:54:42.079 as well, so that's why you're important as you know. Yeah, I 734 00:54:42.119 --> 00:54:44.679 mean if if you're gonna tell me that, okay, we made a we're 735 00:54:44.679 --> 00:54:47.599 gonna make a Horizon multiplayer game or something like that, and it's not necessarily 736 00:54:47.679 --> 00:54:52.239 live service or not an MMO, Okay, I can kind of go with 737 00:54:52.320 --> 00:54:55.239 that, like with they're with factions, but I could I could see it 738 00:54:55.280 --> 00:54:59.760 more and like the Last of Us kind of right, because it's like, 739 00:55:00.079 --> 00:55:05.039 well, Joel and Ellie are the focal point of that story, but there's 740 00:55:05.079 --> 00:55:08.119 still a much more interesting world that you could do stuff with, like you 741 00:55:08.159 --> 00:55:12.880 know, you're a new survivor or you know, you're just whatever, Like 742 00:55:13.320 --> 00:55:15.000 you don't have to tie it into Joel and Ellie at all really, but 743 00:55:15.079 --> 00:55:17.239 with Horizon you kind of do you have to tie it in with that chick 744 00:55:19.519 --> 00:55:25.639 Alloy because she is the focal point. So yeah, and then I forgot 745 00:55:25.639 --> 00:55:29.840 the Horizon VR games. Well yeah, I remember I had Ben in there, 746 00:55:29.920 --> 00:55:34.199 so like, yeah, a lot of Horizon stuff. No, this 747 00:55:34.360 --> 00:55:37.559 was like a ways off, So we'll see what keeps happening with that. 748 00:55:37.760 --> 00:55:45.440 But LOOKA and Sony wants to kind of do the multimedia thing and it's so 749 00:55:45.559 --> 00:55:49.960 far has worked out for them. Or where's the Spider Man mmo where it's 750 00:55:49.960 --> 00:55:55.920 just fifty Spider Man against one raid boss dot coc. I'm surprised nobody is 751 00:55:57.519 --> 00:56:01.280 try to bring that up. Let's do a Spider Man MMO thing. I'm 752 00:56:01.280 --> 00:56:08.639 a thirteen Madam Web. But just to I guess, continue with the mobile 753 00:56:08.719 --> 00:56:13.360 stuff for a little bit here. Uh. Sega also kind of unveiled a 754 00:56:13.360 --> 00:56:17.119 little bit of their plans that they're doing now that they own Robio. They 755 00:56:17.159 --> 00:56:22.840 so that there could be a Sonic and Angry Birds crossover game and uh kind 756 00:56:22.840 --> 00:56:28.800 of joke that they're their their ips are dating right now where they figure out 757 00:56:28.920 --> 00:56:31.320 what they're going to do with them, and then also that like a Dragon 758 00:56:31.440 --> 00:56:37.440 and Persona could have mobile games as well. I mean, Persona already is 759 00:56:37.840 --> 00:56:42.599 already has had a mobile game. I sing, well, they keep putting 760 00:56:42.599 --> 00:56:46.679 Persona in a bunch of different mobile games. Yeah. Also, so there's 761 00:56:46.719 --> 00:56:53.360 that Scott brings up the Marble Spider Worse at leasing in twenty thirty yeight, 762 00:56:53.960 --> 00:56:57.440 I mean, the way things are going with Spider Man, who knows it? 763 00:56:57.519 --> 00:57:02.480 Could it could happen? But yeah, yeah, Look as somebody that 764 00:57:02.599 --> 00:57:07.000 plays Eepra Crisis all the time can tell you that, uh, you know, 765 00:57:07.079 --> 00:57:09.920 I got got by the gotcha. I get that the gotcha works. 766 00:57:10.280 --> 00:57:15.519 You know, Scott is a big fan of the Hanky Star reel. You 767 00:57:15.559 --> 00:57:19.679 know, so if that's what they're gonna do, try to make lack a 768 00:57:19.760 --> 00:57:25.639 Dragon and Persona gotcha games. I guess that's definitely could happen. I just 769 00:57:25.639 --> 00:57:30.079 don't know, like you get so many Persona spinoffs at this point that a 770 00:57:30.639 --> 00:57:36.440 brand. I mean, that's why I'll get Tactical or Tactica eventually, but 771 00:57:36.880 --> 00:57:39.440 I don't see it as important, especially since you know last year or the 772 00:57:39.440 --> 00:57:45.639 past few years he got one of five Royal and then uh, the breakers 773 00:57:45.639 --> 00:57:52.639 sort of end up being called yeah the Strikers. Yeah, okay, yeah 774 00:57:52.119 --> 00:57:55.679 no, And that's the point, right, Like Persona every time they have 775 00:57:57.760 --> 00:58:01.519 a game, what are they releast like different DLC with all these different outfits, 776 00:58:02.159 --> 00:58:07.119 right, and like a Dragon does similar things they did it with lack 777 00:58:07.119 --> 00:58:12.400 of Dragon seven because you have all the different jobs you get and all that 778 00:58:12.400 --> 00:58:14.760 thing. I mean, at least of that one. Like, I don't 779 00:58:14.800 --> 00:58:17.679 know if that's actually better or worse because it's I mean, it's better because 780 00:58:17.719 --> 00:58:22.639 they're more unique, but it's worse because the textual gameplay, right, So 781 00:58:23.360 --> 00:58:25.719 at least with like PA five is just like, hey, if you want 782 00:58:25.719 --> 00:58:29.039 your character to look like a power Ainger, you can do it. But 783 00:58:30.280 --> 00:58:34.920 yeah, it's just if this is like their way of kind of just having 784 00:58:34.960 --> 00:58:40.079 a concurrent Persona thing around, and I'm sure that they will meld the very 785 00:58:40.159 --> 00:58:45.360 much like they did with the why kind of think of them right now the 786 00:58:45.559 --> 00:58:50.840 Dungeon games that are on the three DS, where they meld it in the 787 00:58:50.880 --> 00:58:54.960 Persona three and four characters as well. I don't see this for seing Persona 788 00:58:55.039 --> 00:58:59.639 Q. Yes, Persona Q. Those are both great games, by the 789 00:58:59.679 --> 00:59:01.639 way, would be cool if they got put on switch at some point. 790 00:59:02.719 --> 00:59:07.840 But yeah, like they that's something they could do on mobile as well. 791 00:59:07.880 --> 00:59:09.880 They could do their own version of a Persona qu on mobile. They could 792 00:59:09.880 --> 00:59:14.440 do whatever it is, like the Persona Gotcha game, but then kind of 793 00:59:14.440 --> 00:59:17.679 involve all the Persona things in them, kind of like what we're seeing with 794 00:59:17.719 --> 00:59:22.599 Ever Crisis where they do seven and nine crossover. They are doing that Persona 795 00:59:22.599 --> 00:59:28.039 Gotcha game. Now what there's a mobile Persona game that it's a goll gotcha 796 00:59:28.119 --> 00:59:30.920 ship. Yeah. Well and they, like I said, like you know, 797 00:59:30.360 --> 00:59:35.719 Scot brings uff. They added them to like another Eden, They've added 798 00:59:35.760 --> 00:59:40.400 them to other mobile games as well, you know, so yeah that's a 799 00:59:40.519 --> 00:59:45.000 thing. Yeah, Persona five is a Phantom X five X. That was 800 00:59:45.039 --> 00:59:51.480 it. Yeah, lack of Dragon having that doesn't surprise me either. I 801 00:59:51.480 --> 00:59:57.880 mean it is kind of belt where they could technically make it a mobile game 802 00:59:57.920 --> 01:00:01.639 as well, especially now as you have to turn and based version of lack 803 01:00:01.639 --> 01:00:07.400 of Dragon, So I why not everybody else is doing it? So if 804 01:00:07.440 --> 01:00:12.360 if they're wanting to do this, then go for it. Sonic is interesting 805 01:00:12.400 --> 01:00:17.920 as well because you know, Sonic has had its mobile ventures, so hey, 806 01:00:19.000 --> 01:00:22.960 yeah, didn't take them long to have this bear fruit for Sega. 807 01:00:22.079 --> 01:00:28.880 So we'll see when they actually come out. Wait until the Microsoft King announcement 808 01:00:28.920 --> 01:00:36.880 of Halo Candy Crush. Yeah. Just unfortunately we have to talk about some 809 01:00:37.039 --> 01:00:46.239 more negative stuff with gaming here, as Embracer keeps just gutting companies. They've 810 01:00:46.239 --> 01:00:51.639 officially sort of announced the Free Radical, which Randy and I talked about when 811 01:00:51.679 --> 01:00:55.079 the news came out the first time that Free Radical was possibly going to get 812 01:00:55.079 --> 01:01:01.119 closed. Embracer's basically said that at some point in this month they are probably 813 01:01:01.159 --> 01:01:06.599 going to close pre Radical. We talked about it also, I think because 814 01:01:06.639 --> 01:01:13.199 I was making fun of people who like Time Flitters. Yes, it sucks 815 01:01:13.239 --> 01:01:16.920 to see it sucks that, like we were close to possibly getting any times 816 01:01:16.960 --> 01:01:27.119 Twitter's game and you know, yes, it's it's it just it sucks to 817 01:01:27.159 --> 01:01:30.559 see this. And then also they're they're going to uh they already laid off 818 01:01:30.639 --> 01:01:36.000 people at fish Labs, which the people that made the Corpus game. Uh 819 01:01:36.199 --> 01:01:39.119 you know the no, no, it's not Corvus, it's just chorus chorus 820 01:01:39.239 --> 01:01:45.440 Okay, yeah, just spelled dumbly. Yeah. I like that game, 821 01:01:45.440 --> 01:01:49.280 but it had problems, you know, h it did, but it still 822 01:01:49.320 --> 01:01:53.519 sucks to see that again. Another developer that they own, yeah, is 823 01:01:53.559 --> 01:01:58.519 losing people around. They said that on Tuesday, around fifty people were told 824 01:01:58.519 --> 01:02:01.280 that they'd be laid off. The studio itself only has one hundred and twenty 825 01:02:01.320 --> 01:02:09.960 people, which you know, yeah, almost half. I mean they did 826 01:02:10.000 --> 01:02:15.000 also work on Ports of Saints Fro the third and four for Switch and then 827 01:02:15.159 --> 01:02:17.639 the Xbox Sport of Vauheim, so they were doing other things besides scores. 828 01:02:19.159 --> 01:02:24.320 Yeah. So yeah, man, this like I keep saying, and great 829 01:02:24.320 --> 01:02:30.519 on Ben Starr also playing it during the Golden Joystick Awards that this is a 830 01:02:30.519 --> 01:02:34.760 great year for games, but a terrible year for everything else around games, 831 01:02:35.239 --> 01:02:37.880 and it continues to bear that fruit. And then one that really bothers me 832 01:02:38.039 --> 01:02:43.039 because I like Marvel Snap, I play with a friend of mine every so 833 01:02:43.119 --> 01:02:46.719 often, and by Dance, who you know, of course people probably know 834 01:02:46.760 --> 01:02:52.159 from they're the ones that do TikTok. They also own a gaming company. 835 01:02:52.920 --> 01:02:58.800 Yeah, and that gaming company is apparently a new Verse. I'm sorry it's 836 01:02:58.840 --> 01:03:02.039 going to disappear. Basically, they're they're trying to get out of games, 837 01:03:02.880 --> 01:03:08.159 and they're trying to basically sell off either they can sell off the studio or 838 01:03:08.239 --> 01:03:13.719 just sell off the various games that they have already existing. But they told 839 01:03:13.800 --> 01:03:16.760 the developers that are working on games that haven't come out yet that they're going 840 01:03:16.800 --> 01:03:22.679 to stop working on those games. And they've already started laying off people again, 841 01:03:22.840 --> 01:03:29.800 which which sucks. And although the folks that do Marvel Snap did come 842 01:03:29.800 --> 01:03:35.079 out and say that this doesn't really this should not affect the game because it's 843 01:03:35.800 --> 01:03:37.760 it's a Marvel game. You would think that the IP and the game itself 844 01:03:37.760 --> 01:03:42.159 would sell if somebody else can go buy it. I don't know how the 845 01:03:42.159 --> 01:03:46.960 the whole transfer of the rights would work, but yeah, maybe maybe Disney 846 01:03:46.960 --> 01:03:54.800 can go buy it too. Of course, uh I forgot that the the 847 01:03:54.840 --> 01:04:01.199 developers named Second Dinner that coke like kindind of makes this game, but uh 848 01:04:01.440 --> 01:04:06.079 yeah, I hate seeing this man. Marble Snap has been one of those 849 01:04:06.119 --> 01:04:12.159 mobile games that has like came up and surprised everyone. Obviously has a lot 850 01:04:12.159 --> 01:04:15.840 of Heartstone fielding in it because one of the folks that made Hearthstone also makes 851 01:04:15.840 --> 01:04:20.079 this game. But I don't know, did you ever play it or no? 852 01:04:20.239 --> 01:04:24.519 Because it was probably pretty I mean I think it's on Steam now, 853 01:04:24.719 --> 01:04:28.119 but yeah, it's like mobile focused. I also don't care about card games 854 01:04:28.159 --> 01:04:34.480 anymore, so that's a problem, but it's not uh scummy, so that's 855 01:04:34.559 --> 01:04:40.000 a positive to their Yeah, I never felt like I was being pushed towards 856 01:04:40.679 --> 01:04:44.119 I haven't had anything, and then the Tann's kind of seemed interesting. We 857 01:04:44.159 --> 01:04:47.760 had like the three zones. So yeah, I assume it's just kind of 858 01:04:47.800 --> 01:04:50.400 in maintenance mode at the moment, or you know, the I'll keep cruckling 859 01:04:50.400 --> 01:04:55.119 along until they either get completely shut down or someone else picks them up. 860 01:04:55.639 --> 01:04:59.639 Yeah. Scott brings up that this is why for every time we talk about 861 01:04:59.639 --> 01:05:03.079 these big murders happening, why a lot of them? Well, okay, 862 01:05:03.119 --> 01:05:08.000 you can have some good ones. Perhaps the when you have a big company 863 01:05:08.039 --> 01:05:11.280 like Embracer that we kept talking about, they were buying, buying, buying, 864 01:05:11.360 --> 01:05:15.039 buying. Uh, this is what happens when you have one wrong, 865 01:05:15.119 --> 01:05:19.000 bad decision happened, and now all of these companies are being affected and it's 866 01:05:19.039 --> 01:05:21.519 not going to end. I'm sure next year we're going to be the same 867 01:05:23.000 --> 01:05:28.000 problem. Yeah, Embracing I had other problems as well, where yeah, 868 01:05:28.000 --> 01:05:30.199 the Saudi deal fell through obviously, but also they were putting out a bunch 869 01:05:30.199 --> 01:05:35.079 of crap, you know, so they were like remaking games that didn't need 870 01:05:35.079 --> 01:05:40.280 to be remade and remaster It's like, no one asks for half of these 871 01:05:40.320 --> 01:05:43.679 games that you guys are just putting out. But okay, yeah, well, 872 01:05:43.719 --> 01:05:45.840 you know they released Saints Row and that was a disaster or you know, 873 01:05:46.119 --> 01:05:48.360 yeah, I like the remakes, Like, you know, I guess 874 01:05:48.400 --> 01:05:54.239 it's kind of fine that Destroyal Human's got a remake, but that didn't sell 875 01:05:54.239 --> 01:05:57.679 the world Set the World on Fire or you know, how could it? 876 01:05:57.800 --> 01:06:01.440 You know, right, if they do it cheaply, that's that's one thing. 877 01:06:01.599 --> 01:06:08.360 But I doubt they were. No, they were, And unfortunately now 878 01:06:08.360 --> 01:06:13.320 they're bearing fruit of all these raw decisions. And I wonder if at some 879 01:06:13.440 --> 01:06:16.039 point they get desperate enough where they start shopping around the Lord of the Rings 880 01:06:16.039 --> 01:06:20.760 epe thing again, uh, to have somebody else buy, because they already 881 01:06:20.800 --> 01:06:26.519 gave the the multi media rights to Amazon for it. They already they did 882 01:06:26.559 --> 01:06:29.679 that with tomb Raider as well. Like I wonder if they just go, 883 01:06:29.960 --> 01:06:32.119 oh, you know what, we're not recouping enough, let's just sell this 884 01:06:32.159 --> 01:06:35.519 whole ip to somebody. Yeah, I mean, how they're trying to get 885 01:06:35.559 --> 01:06:39.719 rid of Gearbox and it's like, that's like they're one one of their few 886 01:06:39.760 --> 01:06:44.280 positive studios. Yeah for sure, well at least one positive. When it 887 01:06:44.280 --> 01:06:46.119 comes to all this mobile gaming stuff, off A seven Ever Crisis is going 888 01:06:46.199 --> 01:06:51.480 to be hitting has already hit Steam or to hit Steam very quickly, like 889 01:06:51.599 --> 01:06:58.000 next week. I'm sorry. I've already been playing it on on PC with 890 01:06:58.079 --> 01:07:02.639 the Blue Stacks app. It's awesome because I can literally just have it running 891 01:07:03.440 --> 01:07:09.679 while I'm working and I'm grinding without having to sit there and waste all the 892 01:07:09.719 --> 01:07:15.320 battery on my phone. And it's great. I can still because damn man, 893 01:07:15.360 --> 01:07:18.039 they make they make you really have to grind to get to the They 894 01:07:18.159 --> 01:07:27.360 just added the Nibelheim section flashback section to the seventh story, and you have 895 01:07:27.400 --> 01:07:31.840 to grind a lot to get Cloud to the point where because instead of having 896 01:07:31.840 --> 01:07:38.679 you fight with Separov because Steparoth is not a character in that the oh okay, 897 01:07:38.840 --> 01:07:42.559 I should mention young Separas is a character, but he has his own 898 01:07:42.559 --> 01:07:47.559 storyline with the First Soldier stuff, which is different than seven. The adult 899 01:07:47.599 --> 01:07:51.559 Separoth is not a character in the game, so you cannot fight with Separoth 900 01:07:51.639 --> 01:07:56.679 like you would in the regular File Fantasy. You have to fight as Cloud 901 01:07:56.719 --> 01:08:03.039 by himself during this section, and it means you have to grind Cloud to 902 01:08:03.119 --> 01:08:08.280 a certain point where he's like way above the rest of your party. And 903 01:08:08.800 --> 01:08:11.800 yeah, it kind of sucks because most of the game you're grinding with two 904 01:08:11.840 --> 01:08:15.679 other characters, so your parlevel doesn't have to be as strong, but when 905 01:08:15.679 --> 01:08:20.720 it's just one character, it's pain in the butt. Yes, and I 906 01:08:20.760 --> 01:08:26.720 agree Young Sepparth also, he was way behind the other characters that you use, 907 01:08:26.800 --> 01:08:30.279 the first soldier and you have to grind him a lot too, And 908 01:08:30.319 --> 01:08:32.479 it's like, you know what, I'm done trying to even though I have 909 01:08:32.520 --> 01:08:36.199 it on the Auto battle thing, it's still using up a ton of the 910 01:08:36.239 --> 01:08:41.600 battery on my phone. I'm just like, thank God. Hopefully the Square 911 01:08:41.680 --> 01:08:45.199 Enix account thing that they already have where I can just basically have cross progression 912 01:08:45.720 --> 01:08:50.520 between Blue Stacks and my phone will also work on the Steam version, and 913 01:08:50.600 --> 01:08:55.199 then it will work a lot better because I can is use Steam and not 914 01:08:55.279 --> 01:09:00.880 an app that I didn't have before this. So yeah, yes, I 915 01:09:00.920 --> 01:09:03.399 agree with you, Scott. Thanks for Boo Stacks. I wasn't young Ros 916 01:09:03.479 --> 01:09:09.000 first album, but the second album is pretty good all right, So I 917 01:09:09.039 --> 01:09:11.319 don't have we don't have a lot of time here. I got to pick 918 01:09:11.359 --> 01:09:14.239 up my daughter in like twenty five minutes, So no, I was ranking 919 01:09:14.279 --> 01:09:20.279 about Hogwarts later on. That's cool. Let's get into uh the Game Awards 920 01:09:20.359 --> 01:09:27.359 prediction. So what we're going to do here is go through a lot of 921 01:09:27.399 --> 01:09:30.960 the I guess major, I'm not gonna look. We never want to care 922 01:09:30.000 --> 01:09:34.119 about then esports moment of the year. No, especially not when they don't 923 01:09:34.159 --> 01:09:40.079 even check they like apparently they had a coach that like didn't even coach this 924 01:09:40.199 --> 01:09:48.319 year. Uh in the awards somehow, I don't know how that's all surprised 925 01:09:48.359 --> 01:09:53.399 at all. Again, Uh, I guess before we start, let me 926 01:09:53.560 --> 01:09:57.640 let's do this. Uh this one story. So Jeff Kelley had a Q 927 01:09:57.760 --> 01:10:02.920 and A that he did live and he talked about apparently I guess after this 928 01:10:03.039 --> 01:10:06.439 year because he still called them world premieres. I don't know if it's going 929 01:10:06.479 --> 01:10:10.359 to include this year's version or next year. They're not going to use the 930 01:10:10.359 --> 01:10:15.479 world premiere thing anymore. They're going to have more security so you don't have 931 01:10:15.520 --> 01:10:21.239 people showing up on the stage random And I guess the most controversial thing he 932 01:10:21.279 --> 01:10:29.479 talked about was the whole Dave the Diver controversy with best Independent Game. He 933 01:10:29.640 --> 01:10:33.800 said that basically, Indy is kind of like a style. Indy can be 934 01:10:34.359 --> 01:10:43.159 anything to anyone, regardless of whether you're triple A or not. Essentially is 935 01:10:43.199 --> 01:10:46.760 what he said, Like no, right, like wait wait for the Indy 936 01:10:46.920 --> 01:10:53.840 darling call of duty to come out, Like he means something. You just 937 01:10:53.880 --> 01:10:56.560 don't want to put a meaning to that, so you don't have to say, 938 01:10:56.600 --> 01:11:00.680 oh man, we screwed up. Now. It's like that's just so 939 01:11:00.880 --> 01:11:08.840 weird that you wouldn't just say, hey, we messed up. So here's 940 01:11:08.880 --> 01:11:11.520 the quote, just so I don't say the wrong thing. So yeah, 941 01:11:11.600 --> 01:11:15.239 David Diver the game and stay back group may mint Rocket. It's a smaller 942 01:11:15.279 --> 01:11:17.880 game from a smaller group, but it's part of Next On their employees next 943 01:11:17.920 --> 01:11:20.239 On, whi's a very large publisher. So I think it's a fair debate 944 01:11:20.319 --> 01:11:25.680 and discussion. Is that game truly independent or is it not? You can 945 01:11:25.800 --> 01:11:28.760 argue it either way. It's independent in spirit and that it's a small game 946 01:11:29.359 --> 01:11:30.760 with I don't know what the budget is, well it till we small budget, 947 01:11:30.760 --> 01:11:33.079 but it's from a larger entity, Whereas there are other games on that 948 01:11:33.119 --> 01:11:36.880 list of much smaller studios. Thank you, Jeff for telling us what we 949 01:11:36.920 --> 01:11:40.640 already knew. But why don't you just say, hey, we screwed up, 950 01:11:41.159 --> 01:11:45.359 We're gonna do better next year, or something to that effect, Like, 951 01:11:45.399 --> 01:11:49.680 I don't you know, I still don't know why we can't have a 952 01:11:49.720 --> 01:11:55.600 panel that this is their job and you can just have people do it like 953 01:11:55.680 --> 01:11:59.239 throughout the year. I know that means you probably have to pay people something, 954 01:12:00.199 --> 01:12:06.000 but you like yo, the PC Gaming Show Most Wanted Thing, they 955 01:12:06.000 --> 01:12:14.880 had like a council of people which included dev's journalists and influencers, YouTubers, 956 01:12:14.960 --> 01:12:17.880 whatever. They put them all together and they they're the ones that pick the 957 01:12:17.920 --> 01:12:21.760 best twenty five games or whatever that were on that thing. Why is that 958 01:12:21.840 --> 01:12:26.880 hard to do, Jeff? Where you do the same thing and you go, 959 01:12:27.479 --> 01:12:32.039 you guys decide in each genre, these are the games that should be 960 01:12:32.079 --> 01:12:35.960 in that category, and then when you give out the list of the people 961 01:12:35.960 --> 01:12:41.840 that vote, these are the games that probably belong in these categories. If 962 01:12:41.880 --> 01:12:45.760 you want to write something in, there's a write in box, so you 963 01:12:45.800 --> 01:12:51.199 don't essentially have write ins for every single category and you have less of Oh 964 01:12:51.319 --> 01:12:55.680 yeah, David Diver, that came out the year. Oh, it's indeed 965 01:12:55.760 --> 01:12:59.039 right, Like, no, it means that somebody everady did the research for 966 01:12:59.119 --> 01:13:00.560 you, so you don't have have to go and do research that you're not 967 01:13:00.600 --> 01:13:05.840 going to do. You pick something you know, and it's like, I 968 01:13:05.840 --> 01:13:11.279 don't understand why that's difficult instead of just doing this this this thing that they 969 01:13:11.319 --> 01:13:15.520 do now you know, but whatever. I don't know if you have a 970 01:13:15.600 --> 01:13:19.520 thought or really I mean, I wouldn't say that game is indie, but 971 01:13:19.520 --> 01:13:25.920 it's also not gonna it's also not going to be on like a top five 972 01:13:26.039 --> 01:13:30.439 or six a Game of the Year list as well, so it somewhere right, 973 01:13:30.479 --> 01:13:33.039 But I mean also you can just exclude things that they don't fit and 974 01:13:33.079 --> 01:13:39.600 they'll try to shoehorn them in. But whatever. Yeah, Like for me, 975 01:13:39.720 --> 01:13:42.560 also, I don't understand why we do this player's choice thing. If 976 01:13:42.560 --> 01:13:45.479 we're trying to point out he points out that the play well, the player's 977 01:13:45.560 --> 01:13:47.560 choice thing is there. You can pick what you want, uh to be 978 01:13:47.600 --> 01:13:53.039 able to represent the players side of things. Why are we putting old games 979 01:13:53.079 --> 01:13:55.920 in there that are not did not come out this year If we're making that 980 01:13:56.000 --> 01:14:00.680 point, like there's indie games that are not in that are actually indi that 981 01:14:00.760 --> 01:14:04.479 were not in there because you had to put in Genchen Impact and Fortnite and 982 01:14:04.640 --> 01:14:08.279 other things that have been out a while that don't need to be recognized. 983 01:14:08.279 --> 01:14:12.159 They don't need this recognization. They don't need this recognition. They already have 984 01:14:13.039 --> 01:14:16.600 huge amounts of fans. But let's say whatever game that wins, which I 985 01:14:16.640 --> 01:14:18.880 know it's going to be some big Triple A game, but let's say that 986 01:14:18.960 --> 01:14:24.439 we did have an indie game or some other games that that could have gone 987 01:14:24.479 --> 01:14:29.520 further in the competition in the voting because you didn't have all these things in 988 01:14:29.560 --> 01:14:30.800 there. Like right now, Genchen Impact is one of the top ten. 989 01:14:31.079 --> 01:14:35.680 That makes no sense, but that's just me. Let's let's go. Yeah, 990 01:14:35.840 --> 01:14:42.399 Fortnite needs more recognition. Yeah, definitely, we needed to have that 991 01:14:42.439 --> 01:14:45.199 in there. So I guess let's see what the one that doesn't have to 992 01:14:45.239 --> 01:14:51.399 do anything with gaming per Se Best Adaptation, Last of Us, Castflvania, 993 01:14:51.479 --> 01:14:56.560 Nocturn, Grand Turismo, Super Mario Brothers Movie, and Twisted Middle Save a 994 01:14:56.600 --> 01:15:00.640 Twisted Metal Man obviously, Yeah, no, it'll be after us. Of 995 01:15:00.680 --> 01:15:03.399 course. Uh, They're they're going to try to make it a point that 996 01:15:03.520 --> 01:15:08.920 you know, we need to honor the the best version. I imagine they'll 997 01:15:08.920 --> 01:15:13.760 have the guy and the girl come out, except as well, Oh you 998 01:15:13.800 --> 01:15:17.600 think uh will show up? Maybe not both, at least maybe one of 999 01:15:17.640 --> 01:15:23.520 them. Yeah, I assume maybe Pedro, But yeah, we'll see. 1000 01:15:23.760 --> 01:15:30.880 I think my movie has a slight chance because that might be more like Fondly 1001 01:15:30.920 --> 01:15:36.159 Remembered and it has the the big movie selling cachet. But I think the 1002 01:15:36.239 --> 01:15:43.039 Last of Us for sure better. Yeah. Lost of Us is you can, 1003 01:15:43.159 --> 01:15:49.159 yeah say it's better. Cool that they had a scattery. So let's 1004 01:15:49.159 --> 01:15:56.039 go to to the stuff that we actually I'll do Game of the Year last. 1005 01:15:56.880 --> 01:16:00.319 I feel like we already know what's gonna win that category. But best 1006 01:16:00.319 --> 01:16:02.279 game direction, Alan Wake two, bolsh Gate three, Marbles, five Man 1007 01:16:02.319 --> 01:16:08.479 two, supermar Rose Wonder, and Legend of Zelda Tears of the Kingdom, 1008 01:16:08.760 --> 01:16:13.600 would you say? I would also say Alan Wake two because it's the most 1009 01:16:14.079 --> 01:16:19.520 directed game. Like you can literally feel Sam Lake's fingers all over that game 1010 01:16:19.720 --> 01:16:25.840 as you walk through as Saga and Alan in that game. Right, Like 1011 01:16:27.880 --> 01:16:30.319 I think, if if you're taking it from that perspective of just saying, 1012 01:16:30.359 --> 01:16:34.039 okay, this is the one that had the most direction, I think because 1013 01:16:34.079 --> 01:16:38.399 there's an art direction, super mar Rose Wonder is probably gonna win that instead 1014 01:16:38.399 --> 01:16:42.399 of yeah, Alana is more like yeah, like a singular vision of Sam 1015 01:16:42.479 --> 01:16:45.920 Lake or you know, right, the company itself. I mean, I 1016 01:16:45.920 --> 01:16:50.840 guess you could go the other way and say that Balder's Gate and Zelda are 1017 01:16:50.960 --> 01:16:56.560 like direction in a different way where you, as the player get to make 1018 01:16:56.600 --> 01:17:00.279 the direction, and that's creative in its own right. So I guess those 1019 01:17:00.319 --> 01:17:06.760 could possibly yeah, but no, okay, fair enough. Yeah, I 1020 01:17:06.760 --> 01:17:11.119 think Alan is gonna win, but I wouldn't be surprised at balder Skate wins 1021 01:17:11.159 --> 01:17:16.640 that Alan to balder Skate three, Cyberpunk twenty seventy seven, liberty Fulfan is 1022 01:17:16.680 --> 01:17:21.279 sixteen, and Marble spider Man TA for Best Narrative. Uh. I think 1023 01:17:21.880 --> 01:17:28.520 Alan Wake two is probably going to win this, or maybe Cyberpunk. But 1024 01:17:29.239 --> 01:17:30.720 yeah, that seems to be like the big the big push of that, 1025 01:17:30.800 --> 01:17:34.319 you know, the big focus of that game expansion. I don't want to 1026 01:17:34.319 --> 01:17:40.079 get into an argument with you, but I did enjoy narrative. I know 1027 01:17:40.119 --> 01:17:45.960 you didn't. It is fine. I don't think we need this is not 1028 01:17:45.079 --> 01:17:48.359 the we could talk about that when we do the game of the year stuff. 1029 01:17:48.399 --> 01:17:54.319 Yeah, I'll bring up my grass and point out how you're objectively wrong. 1030 01:17:54.520 --> 01:17:59.439 No problem. Best art direction, Alan Wake two, High five Rust 1031 01:17:59.439 --> 01:18:02.600 Slices the Piece of My Rose, Wonder and Zelda Tears. I think mar 1032 01:18:03.279 --> 01:18:10.640 you know e cool if High five Rush one, because it is awesome. 1033 01:18:11.319 --> 01:18:15.239 Yeah, I also did enjoy to be Alive as well. I mean the 1034 01:18:15.279 --> 01:18:18.119 problem is, like Mario wonder, is it's such an established art style already. 1035 01:18:18.720 --> 01:18:21.039 Yeah, okay, it's cool that the pipes move or that you can 1036 01:18:21.319 --> 01:18:27.439 know an elephant, but right, okay, you know, like I wouldn't 1037 01:18:27.439 --> 01:18:31.039 be surprised if Mario wins just because it is like, oh, let's give 1038 01:18:31.079 --> 01:18:35.680 Mario credit for doing something a little bit different. But yeah, it would 1039 01:18:35.680 --> 01:18:43.279 be awesome if High Fi Rush wins, because man, the r in that 1040 01:18:43.319 --> 01:18:45.399 game is great, and the way they make that all move with the music 1041 01:18:45.479 --> 01:18:50.840 and everything is is awesome. Uh. Best score in music allen Wick two, 1042 01:18:50.960 --> 01:18:56.520 Balder's Gate three f sixteen, High five Rush and Zelda. I think 1043 01:18:56.520 --> 01:19:00.960 this is the one category the Confident sixteen wins. If there's one thing about 1044 01:19:00.960 --> 01:19:05.279 fill Fans sixteen that I will not argue, I don't think can really necessarily 1045 01:19:05.279 --> 01:19:11.199 be arguing too much is that it has a great soundtrack. I don't think 1046 01:19:11.199 --> 01:19:14.880 they would have taken the time to make sure that they added sixteen tracks to 1047 01:19:15.640 --> 01:19:19.520 diter rhythm if the game if the soundtrack wasn't as beloved as it is. 1048 01:19:21.199 --> 01:19:25.760 Also, High Frive Rush has a great soundtrack too. I mean, i'd 1049 01:19:25.760 --> 01:19:29.239 actually say to Alan Wake two out of this one. Yeah, I mean, 1050 01:19:29.840 --> 01:19:34.039 if we're going to include like Allen Wake makes you feel with its score 1051 01:19:34.119 --> 01:19:39.079 and everything else, and then also having the sound the tracks at the end 1052 01:19:39.079 --> 01:19:44.119 of each chapter are great as well. Plus I'm seeing that like one big 1053 01:19:44.159 --> 01:19:48.159 Allen Wake two sequins and that's integral to that cool plot. Yes that yeah, 1054 01:19:48.640 --> 01:19:53.039 that is awesome. The fact when that hits in the game, it's 1055 01:19:53.079 --> 01:19:58.600 it's awesome. That's design. Allen Wack two, Dead Space, High Frive 1056 01:19:58.680 --> 01:20:00.920 Rush, Marvel spoter Man team wasn't before. This is the one that I 1057 01:20:00.960 --> 01:20:04.720 feel like I should win because of all the stuff that it does with this 1058 01:20:04.880 --> 01:20:10.680 sound design, which again the fact that it makes all of that stuff go 1059 01:20:10.800 --> 01:20:17.680 to the music is amazing since the legend is that so. But shout out 1060 01:20:17.720 --> 01:20:24.560 to Allen Wick two also as well for that and residing before also does a 1061 01:20:24.560 --> 01:20:28.600 great job with its with its audio design and of course Space. Uh. 1062 01:20:29.199 --> 01:20:32.960 If we're thought about scary game out of the three dead Space, it's probably 1063 01:20:32.960 --> 01:20:39.000 the scariest out of the three. Best performance which is the you know, 1064 01:20:39.399 --> 01:20:47.399 voiceover Voice Actor Award for the Game Awards. Ben Star as Clive Cameron Monahan. 1065 01:20:48.560 --> 01:20:59.359 It's the I don't know what he's caw Yeah, Ela Cyber, Melanie 1066 01:20:59.439 --> 01:21:03.640 le Bird Fround should play Saga Neil Nubahn for Balder's Kate three. I think 1067 01:21:03.680 --> 01:21:08.439 he plays the the guy that's on the cover at Canader's name now, the 1068 01:21:08.479 --> 01:21:14.199 one with the white hair, and then you're a Lowenthal man. Uh, 1069 01:21:14.640 --> 01:21:17.560 I could see it was so but winning, especially if he shows up just 1070 01:21:18.039 --> 01:21:24.079 as a prestige actor, right, you know, man, fuck all these 1071 01:21:24.119 --> 01:21:29.239 people should just be Sam Lake again. Like again, I wouldn't be surprised 1072 01:21:29.239 --> 01:21:34.039 off of Ben Star wins because you know he has made Clive like his whole 1073 01:21:34.079 --> 01:21:41.439 thing, and him tweeting about in the five voice every time there. He 1074 01:21:41.560 --> 01:21:44.439 just did one for g t A six where he today where he's like, 1075 01:21:44.600 --> 01:21:46.800 oh, I'm I'm putting myself out there as one of the birds, the 1076 01:21:46.840 --> 01:21:51.119 three birds. He's doing in the Clive voice and it's it's great, and 1077 01:21:51.119 --> 01:21:57.359 it's and he is a he is a blessing to the world this year for 1078 01:21:57.399 --> 01:22:03.560 sure, at least as a person. Uh So, Yeah, that's gonna 1079 01:22:03.560 --> 01:22:10.119 be an interesting one to see what happens there. Innovation and accessibility. The 1080 01:22:10.119 --> 01:22:14.279 album four for's the motorsport High five Russ, Spider Man two, Motor Kombat 1081 01:22:14.279 --> 01:22:17.399 one, Steve Fighter six. I've heard a lot of people say Stree Fighter 1082 01:22:17.439 --> 01:22:23.680 six for putting in the new controls. Yeah, the modern controls where they 1083 01:22:23.960 --> 01:22:28.399 yeah make it really simple High five Rush of course, or what it does 1084 01:22:28.560 --> 01:22:31.920 with the where it makes it easier for you to understand how the beats work 1085 01:22:32.800 --> 01:22:36.680 in that game. Uh, whe's the most sport always has a good job 1086 01:22:36.720 --> 01:22:42.680 with its accessibility stuff. The album four as well. I could see High 1087 01:22:42.720 --> 01:22:47.920 Fire Russ winning this. I don't know where. I have no opinion. 1088 01:22:48.159 --> 01:22:53.600 It's sick and all these things are fine gains for impact, which is always 1089 01:22:53.640 --> 01:23:00.439 a weird category. Uh it's gone from the category that like it's supposed to 1090 01:23:00.640 --> 01:23:04.039 really mean something to the category of like more of it's the category that hits 1091 01:23:04.079 --> 01:23:09.359 you in the fields. I guess a space for the unbound, which is 1092 01:23:09.399 --> 01:23:14.119 a fantastic game. Everybody should go play Chances of Scenar, Goodbye Volcano, 1093 01:23:14.239 --> 01:23:18.920 Hi, Chia, Tara Nil, and Venba. Man. I'd love to 1094 01:23:18.920 --> 01:23:28.359 see Venba win this. I really so yeah. I gotta see Chances Sinnar 1095 01:23:28.640 --> 01:23:30.880 winning too, because it's getting a lot of buzz as a game you need 1096 01:23:30.920 --> 01:23:33.640 to play before we get to the end of the year. Thing. I 1097 01:23:33.640 --> 01:23:36.800 feel like every podcast I've listened to this week is saying that they're playing chance. 1098 01:23:36.840 --> 01:23:45.560 Somebody's playing Chances Scenar on there. So yeah, yeah, I'm gonna 1099 01:23:45.560 --> 01:23:49.880 go with the I think Chance Chance Scenario is gonna maybe win. But man, 1100 01:23:49.880 --> 01:23:57.079 would be cool if Venbo one best ongoing game Apex, Cyberpunk Fall, 1101 01:23:57.079 --> 01:24:00.239 Fantasy fourteen Fortnite against an Impact. I love star Punk to win just for 1102 01:24:00.319 --> 01:24:03.119 the fact that it's tynically not an ongoing game, but they put it in 1103 01:24:03.239 --> 01:24:08.760 here because of all the patches and then having the expansion just to like, 1104 01:24:09.560 --> 01:24:12.079 you know, get the throw it in the other one's faces, I guess. 1105 01:24:12.319 --> 01:24:19.119 But yeah, yeah, cool or whatever. Probably let me get out 1106 01:24:19.119 --> 01:24:25.640 of this because it keeps going. Okay, that's adpendent game, go ahead. 1107 01:24:25.640 --> 01:24:29.279 I'm sorry what no I said? It da called Duty. Yeah, 1108 01:24:29.359 --> 01:24:32.239 definitely not. Uh, Cocoon, Dave the Diver, which is not an 1109 01:24:32.279 --> 01:24:39.800 indie game, Dredge, see if Stars and Viewfinder. I think at Cocoon 1110 01:24:39.960 --> 01:24:45.359 is probably gonna win. I don't know when if he's done the vote, 1111 01:24:45.399 --> 01:24:47.920 like how they do the voting, if it's somebody been decided and we're just 1112 01:24:48.520 --> 01:24:53.319 going through the motions, or when they actually do the deciding. Well, 1113 01:24:54.159 --> 01:24:58.159 I mean people can vote now, yeah, but that vote vote is like 1114 01:24:58.239 --> 01:25:01.800 ten to the it's like nine, I think it is. Yeah. So 1115 01:25:02.359 --> 01:25:05.840 even even Jeff went on that Q and A and said that the players votes 1116 01:25:05.880 --> 01:25:12.359 don't really matter that much when it comes to these. Uh ever thinks about 1117 01:25:12.640 --> 01:25:15.680 pushing that up a little bit more, But I think you would be cool. 1118 01:25:15.880 --> 01:25:18.800 That's just my take. Yeah, view Finders have been one of those 1119 01:25:18.840 --> 01:25:26.960 that I've wanted to play for a while but haven't. I wouldn't whichever one 1120 01:25:27.000 --> 01:25:29.479 of these win. I mean, Dave Diver is a really good game, 1121 01:25:29.560 --> 01:25:32.159 by the way, It's just shouldn't be in this category, but wouldn't be 1122 01:25:32.159 --> 01:25:35.800 surprised today the Diver winds up winning just to throw it all in everybody's face. 1123 01:25:36.840 --> 01:25:42.399 So they made the mistake. But it's also like the most known out 1124 01:25:42.399 --> 01:25:45.279 of the ones on here, I think, aside from ABC of Stars. 1125 01:25:45.359 --> 01:25:53.880 So yeah, best debut indie game Cocoon, Drudge, Pizza Tower, Vemba, 1126 01:25:53.920 --> 01:25:56.840 and VI Finder. Pizza Tower is like on my list of I need 1127 01:25:56.880 --> 01:26:00.560 to go play that before we get to the end of the we make the 1128 01:26:00.640 --> 01:26:03.520 decisions. I've heard a lot of great things about it. All of these 1129 01:26:03.560 --> 01:26:08.279 indie games are great, would be cool if venbo one, but I could 1130 01:26:08.319 --> 01:26:12.920 definitely see Cocoon winning this. Yeah, I don't. I don't know if 1131 01:26:12.960 --> 01:26:19.960 you have a Nope, I don't planning and it's not like j RPG thing 1132 01:26:20.039 --> 01:26:26.079 or you know, some RPG thing like Right Path Founder is cool for sure 1133 01:26:26.159 --> 01:26:30.279 on that fill Fantasy seven Ever Crisis, Hello, Kitty Allen Adventure, Honky 1134 01:26:30.359 --> 01:26:32.359 Star Row, Monster Hunter Now, and Tura nil for best Mobile game. 1135 01:26:33.159 --> 01:26:36.800 How Guy Star is gonna win this pretty much? I think we don't need 1136 01:26:36.840 --> 01:26:47.720 to definitely, yeah, definitely, for sure. Let me see which one 1137 01:26:47.960 --> 01:26:51.279 maybe we have not. I think that's okay. Now we're getting to the 1138 01:26:51.399 --> 01:26:58.159 actual genre stuff. Best Action Armor Core six, Dead Island two, which 1139 01:26:58.159 --> 01:27:00.560 still don't know why it's on here, Ghost Runner two still know what's on 1140 01:27:00.600 --> 01:27:02.720 her high brush, High five Rush and Remnant two. I mean that's the 1141 01:27:02.760 --> 01:27:05.720 action. That's the action game that can see, like go Thunder two's on 1142 01:27:05.760 --> 01:27:09.920 there. I mean I would that is an action game for sure. But 1143 01:27:10.039 --> 01:27:12.800 see, like I think that Found Fighters sixteen should have been in this category 1144 01:27:12.800 --> 01:27:17.359 instead of RPG. But that's just me. I agree the best action game. 1145 01:27:17.520 --> 01:27:24.159 So uh, I think High five Rush is going to win this. 1146 01:27:24.880 --> 01:27:30.680 I I actually might have said Armed Core six you think, so, okay, 1147 01:27:30.159 --> 01:27:33.600 I know you you got to for Remnant two winning there. Yeah, 1148 01:27:33.720 --> 01:27:38.000 but that's also like that, I mean, that is an action game, 1149 01:27:38.760 --> 01:27:42.199 that's like, but I would say that that's like more of an RPD than 1150 01:27:42.279 --> 01:27:45.119 Found Thanks to sixteen. You know, really me deal with elementary resistances and 1151 01:27:45.439 --> 01:27:49.840 like that. You know, lots of p should also be in this category 1152 01:27:49.840 --> 01:27:55.159 and not in the RPG category. But that's also uh, that's like the 1153 01:27:55.199 --> 01:27:58.039 weird thing is like how do you call it? How do you how do 1154 01:27:58.079 --> 01:28:01.479 you classify Dart Souls as an RPG or I don't see that's the thing. 1155 01:28:01.479 --> 01:28:09.000 I don't think Dark Souls games should be like RPGs. But I think also 1156 01:28:09.039 --> 01:28:11.560 just because this is more action, because this is more like Bloodborne. It's 1157 01:28:11.600 --> 01:28:18.159 not like Dark Souls so much the same thing. So you have you have 1158 01:28:18.319 --> 01:28:24.760 levels, you know, I know, but I'm just best Action Adventure. 1159 01:28:24.920 --> 01:28:29.720 Allen Wake T, Marble spoder Man T wasn't before Star Wars Jedi and Zelda. 1160 01:28:31.079 --> 01:28:34.199 I think Marbles Spider Man two could have win this one. I think 1161 01:28:34.199 --> 01:28:38.800 it would be Zelda. I think that'll be like gonna win the Game of 1162 01:28:38.800 --> 01:28:44.079 the Year. I don't think so that'll be No, definitely not. Scott 1163 01:28:44.199 --> 01:28:47.640 says that Hello Kitty is going to slay the competition the mobile. Uh, 1164 01:28:48.039 --> 01:28:56.479 that'd be interesting. Would be interesting if allen Wick doesn't win this because they're 1165 01:28:56.520 --> 01:29:00.199 gonna be up for so many other awards and then probably not gonna win Game 1166 01:29:00.239 --> 01:29:04.000 of the Year. So yeah, but this was an interesting category forgot a 1167 01:29:04.000 --> 01:29:09.960 bunch of the big heavy best RPG. I think we pretty much know who's 1168 01:29:09.960 --> 01:29:14.800 gonna win here, but ballers Gate three sixteen see if Stars in Starfield. 1169 01:29:15.560 --> 01:29:21.079 Uh. Octipath two not being in here instead of Las of p is annoying, 1170 01:29:21.359 --> 01:29:28.880 But Bather's Gate three is gonna win us. I mean no doubt aside 1171 01:29:28.880 --> 01:29:32.760 from your love of Octopass too. I don't think most people even remember that 1172 01:29:32.800 --> 01:29:36.239 game came out this year. It's also because it's a very long game, 1173 01:29:38.000 --> 01:29:42.920 and I don't be I don't you know, begrudge anyone not playing that right 1174 01:29:43.399 --> 01:29:46.279 when we had other games coming out around that time that people probably would have 1175 01:29:46.319 --> 01:29:54.880 spent less time playing. But definitely a deserve to at least be best RPG 1176 01:29:54.960 --> 01:29:58.000 in its field or whatever, especially because Prominent sixteen should not be in this 1177 01:29:58.119 --> 01:30:04.479 category whatever. Best fighting game got a Rock to Combat one, Nickelodeon All 1178 01:30:04.479 --> 01:30:10.000 Star Braw two, Pocket Bravery, and street Fighter six, So which one 1179 01:30:10.039 --> 01:30:14.560 of the two big ones are gonna maybe Nickelodeon also braw to Man come on, 1180 01:30:14.880 --> 01:30:20.279 yeah, uh six? You know, yeah more time. That's basically 1181 01:30:20.319 --> 01:30:23.800 do you know, more of the same. But they have that cool kind 1182 01:30:23.800 --> 01:30:29.439 of cameo thing, right you did try to like really refine stuff. Even 1183 01:30:29.479 --> 01:30:32.159 aside from like the actual package, it has like that cool like world Tour 1184 01:30:32.199 --> 01:30:34.880 mode and stuff like that. It just seems like a deeper fighting game. 1185 01:30:35.520 --> 01:30:40.000 Yeah, it seems like street Fighter six has been way more talked about them. 1186 01:30:40.000 --> 01:30:45.079 Will Combat yeah for sure, best family game, which sometimes feels like 1187 01:30:45.159 --> 01:30:50.840 the we're just gonna throw a bunch of stuff in here. Game category Disney 1188 01:30:50.880 --> 01:30:57.960 Illusion Island, which is actually surprisingly good, Party Animals, Pickman four, 1189 01:30:58.239 --> 01:31:03.239 Sonic Superstars, and supermar Brothers Wonder. Uh, Mario is probably gonna win, 1190 01:31:03.960 --> 01:31:08.319 but it'd be cool to picking four one. I would say either, 1191 01:31:08.720 --> 01:31:12.319 I'd say Mario's gonna win, but I might say Sonic would be kind of 1192 01:31:12.319 --> 01:31:15.880 cool. Yeah, but again it's like it's like the uh, the the 1193 01:31:15.880 --> 01:31:19.319 alder thing for me about the best acting venture like Mario, I Wonder is 1194 01:31:19.319 --> 01:31:24.760 not gonna win the game of the year, So definitely not no consolation for 1195 01:31:24.800 --> 01:31:30.319 that best SIM strategy, which is like the one that they seems like they 1196 01:31:30.359 --> 01:31:38.399 do the least research on sometimes because like City Skylines two was all kinds of 1197 01:31:38.399 --> 01:31:42.720 of a debacle release and that shouldn't be on here. A Company of Heroes 1198 01:31:42.720 --> 01:31:45.880 three probably shouldn't be on here either. When there's other strategy games that came 1199 01:31:45.920 --> 01:31:50.520 out, Advanced Wars one and two reboot Camp, which is technically I guess 1200 01:31:50.600 --> 01:31:55.880 a remaster. I don't know if that needs to be on here, doesn't 1201 01:31:55.880 --> 01:31:59.399 matter, but it's on here. It's Cided City Skylines two, Company Heroes 1202 01:31:59.439 --> 01:32:03.119 three, fire Engage, and pick Win four. Uh. Fireland Engage is 1203 01:32:03.159 --> 01:32:08.119 probably I would say, I guess is that a mobile game? Yeah? 1204 01:32:08.159 --> 01:32:13.520 Okay, well you know what Fireland Engauge is. It's the fun again that 1205 01:32:13.600 --> 01:32:16.000 came out at the beginning of this year. I thought you played it and 1206 01:32:16.039 --> 01:32:21.720 everything, Oh that's the yeah, yeah, sorry, yeah, I slipped 1207 01:32:21.720 --> 01:32:28.880 my mind completely. I didn't like it. That's why I like, yeah, 1208 01:32:28.880 --> 01:32:33.319 I remember you're not liking Its interesting because I think it was like it 1209 01:32:33.399 --> 01:32:36.960 was like very divisive. There's a lot of people that liked it, and 1210 01:32:36.960 --> 01:32:40.000 then there's a lot of people that felt like you, they're kind of like, 1211 01:32:40.000 --> 01:32:43.359 Okay, it didn't mean much for me. Yeah, I think I 1212 01:32:43.399 --> 01:32:45.439 think three heroes are three houses. Three houses. Sorry. They did a 1213 01:32:45.520 --> 01:32:50.000 much better job of limiting what you can do and like having having more focus, 1214 01:32:50.079 --> 01:32:54.000 Like this is just like we got twenty different character classes. It's the 1215 01:32:54.000 --> 01:32:58.399 same problem as like as uh, oh what is it? What are those 1216 01:32:58.840 --> 01:33:02.359 printy games? Oh does guy? Yeah, it's the same problem as like 1217 01:33:02.439 --> 01:33:06.239 Deskaia, where you have just eight hundred different character classes and it's like, 1218 01:33:06.279 --> 01:33:11.000 oh my god, I can't keep all this straight. All right, So 1219 01:33:11.079 --> 01:33:15.840 here we go Game of the Year because I gotta get going. Alan Wake 1220 01:33:15.880 --> 01:33:20.920 two, Spider Man two legends, all the tiers, uh, super mar 1221 01:33:20.960 --> 01:33:26.159 I wonder balls Gate three and resume before remake Ball's Gate three is gonna win. 1222 01:33:26.680 --> 01:33:30.039 Yeah, the only other I don't think it'll win. The only other 1223 01:33:30.079 --> 01:33:32.439 game that should that, like, if it was a different year, should 1224 01:33:32.439 --> 01:33:36.520 win would be Allen Wake two. But yeah, every other game that list, 1225 01:33:38.399 --> 01:33:41.600 you know, is fine, but I would have it. You know, 1226 01:33:41.960 --> 01:33:45.479 Balder's Gate three is the one of the few times where you have the 1227 01:33:45.600 --> 01:33:50.840 critical and gaming darling all in one. And yeah, there's no way that 1228 01:33:51.680 --> 01:33:57.720 a game that made that much and talk this year and all that it is 1229 01:33:57.800 --> 01:34:00.119 not going to all right, I'd be super the price of anything besides that. 1230 01:34:00.920 --> 01:34:09.439 Yeah, uh yes, well I'm uh just to let y'all know. 1231 01:34:09.560 --> 01:34:14.199 Next week we will have our review of and and talk everything about the Game 1232 01:34:14.239 --> 01:34:19.239 of Wars was announced and and everything else really quick. Anything you want to 1233 01:34:19.279 --> 01:34:29.119 see announced or anything exactly, Okay, I do like if Gear six is 1234 01:34:29.119 --> 01:34:31.279 going to get announced, I definitely want to see that. So uh, 1235 01:34:31.640 --> 01:34:35.319 I hope we get some kind of fun Fantasy seven rebirth like surprise thing. 1236 01:34:35.399 --> 01:34:41.159 Even though they've been in Twitter posts everywhere, they've basically been giving you details 1237 01:34:41.159 --> 01:34:44.640 about the game constantly, so I don't know what else they could really show, 1238 01:34:45.439 --> 01:34:48.119 but it'd be cool if we got something. They did give hints about 1239 01:34:48.159 --> 01:34:54.439 fom Fantasy sixteens like DLC today, so I don't know if maybe they perhaps 1240 01:34:54.560 --> 01:34:57.840 have something to give on that. I'm not sure that would be cool. 1241 01:34:58.479 --> 01:35:00.840 Yuh yeah, I just kind of want to be surprised. I want to 1242 01:35:00.880 --> 01:35:05.840 have I hope that there are some surprises that we don't really know that much 1243 01:35:05.880 --> 01:35:12.800 about, or like a game that we've heard a ton about but there's been 1244 01:35:12.840 --> 01:35:15.600 nothing like, you know, let's I don't know if there's gonna be a 1245 01:35:15.640 --> 01:35:17.560 surprise like that, but it'd be cool if, you know, we got 1246 01:35:17.560 --> 01:35:21.760 the surprise for like a Metromo prime Ford trailers to make something of that. 1247 01:35:23.000 --> 01:35:28.399 Yeah. Maybe I don't know if the Eldon Ring d'lc is going to have 1248 01:35:28.439 --> 01:35:30.680 a trailer here. I know they said it's it's farther off, but it 1249 01:35:30.680 --> 01:35:33.920 doesn't mean that they don't have a trailer to show or something like that. 1250 01:35:34.000 --> 01:35:41.079 So all right, well, enjoy the weekend, get ready for the next 1251 01:35:41.079 --> 01:35:45.800 time we see you, the game awards will have finished and we'll know who 1252 01:35:45.840 --> 01:35:48.239 won all the stuff. We'll give your thoughts on the show and all that, 1253 01:35:48.560 --> 01:35:53.399 and all of that, make sure you like, subscribe, follow all 1254 01:35:53.439 --> 01:35:59.079 of those things, and we'll see you next week. Everybody. Bye,