WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.640 --> 00:00:04.719 Bottled Up Bitches is hosted by a horny Mary couple. Content may include adult 2 00:00:04.759 --> 00:00:08.400 language and themes. Check the description for more details. If your discretion is 3 00:00:08.439 --> 00:00:17.920 advised. It's season three. Welcome to Bottles Up Bitches, your favorite sex 4 00:00:18.039 --> 00:00:22.920 podcast with Me Rihanna Campbell and Me producer Mana Adam Rihanna. Are you ready 5 00:00:22.920 --> 00:00:25.839 for some hot topics and even guests? Well, you know, I am, 6 00:00:25.960 --> 00:00:32.439 let's fucking do this, see Horny Bitches. How's it going? Motherfuck 7 00:00:32.520 --> 00:00:37.159 us? Am I the motherfuckers? I think everyone's a motherfucker. Okay, 8 00:00:37.200 --> 00:00:41.920 well you usually you usually start these off by saying hi to me, right, 9 00:00:41.960 --> 00:00:44.159 but it's a very special day, so I thought I would do the 10 00:00:44.240 --> 00:00:49.039 intro, all right, I just can change the system of well, I'll 11 00:00:49.079 --> 00:00:52.520 go guess right here. In honor of our very special guests, I thought 12 00:00:52.520 --> 00:00:55.320 I would do the intro the way she does the interest to her videos. 13 00:00:55.439 --> 00:00:58.159 Oh okay, yeah, okay, that's fair, that's fair. So, 14 00:00:58.439 --> 00:01:02.560 UM, I always say that I'm excited, but this is this is what 15 00:01:02.640 --> 00:01:03.799 I treat, what I dream. This is one you've been looking forward to 16 00:01:03.840 --> 00:01:07.280 for for for for for for quite a while, for quite a while. 17 00:01:07.599 --> 00:01:12.480 Um, I was waiting on emails and responses. Not emails necessarily, but 18 00:01:12.519 --> 00:01:15.840 like, this incredible guest just kind of fell in our lap, even though 19 00:01:15.879 --> 00:01:21.000 I'd reached out to her already. M I reached out to one of her 20 00:01:21.040 --> 00:01:25.200 sponsors to sponsor this podcast, thanks fun Factory, And then fun Factory did 21 00:01:25.200 --> 00:01:26.599 this incredible thing where they're like, hey, you're a sex podcast, we 22 00:01:26.599 --> 00:01:30.359 have an incredible person you'd like that would go well on your show. And 23 00:01:30.400 --> 00:01:34.760 I nearly died because I was like, what, I've already reached out to 24 00:01:34.799 --> 00:01:37.879 her, this is a treat and you're such a fan of hers. Yeah, 25 00:01:37.920 --> 00:01:41.200 I'm just such a fan of hers. So the fact that there was 26 00:01:41.239 --> 00:01:46.159 like a doubling down of an introduction and not just me like cold calling her, 27 00:01:46.319 --> 00:01:49.599 cold emailing, instagramming her being like come beyond this show. Um. 28 00:01:51.239 --> 00:01:55.120 So we get to talk to Luke today of lou and lou Land, and 29 00:01:56.799 --> 00:02:02.359 I'm I just had the incredible time listening to her talk about her journey and 30 00:02:02.560 --> 00:02:06.840 her story and what were your thoughts, What were your thoughts as a male 31 00:02:06.879 --> 00:02:15.800 because her big thing is her journey an empowerment of Yeah, yeah, no, 32 00:02:15.960 --> 00:02:20.159 it was. It was super fun to it was super fun to talk 33 00:02:20.159 --> 00:02:24.680 to her. She's just like such a fun personality and she has such a 34 00:02:24.719 --> 00:02:30.000 positive outlook on life and things like you know, metopause she talks about in 35 00:02:30.039 --> 00:02:31.639 the show like it's this fun thing. It can be fine if you make 36 00:02:31.680 --> 00:02:35.680 it fun. I don't know. She just has such this like this way 37 00:02:35.680 --> 00:02:40.800 of looking at the world that is so uplifting and honorable to talk to her. 38 00:02:42.280 --> 00:02:46.680 Yeah, and I did find it amazing that we're gonna We decided to 39 00:02:46.680 --> 00:02:51.120 make her episode the finale episode because it was a longer time, so we 40 00:02:51.159 --> 00:02:53.919 thought it would be a nice little treat for all you guys since this is 41 00:02:54.039 --> 00:03:00.960 our season three finale, thanks for being here with us. We would make 42 00:03:00.960 --> 00:03:02.879 it a little lengthier, just kind of as a bonus. We you know, 43 00:03:02.960 --> 00:03:07.639 talking to Lou was so good we weren't about to cut her off or 44 00:03:07.759 --> 00:03:12.159 shorten or edit anything out. So yeah, I've just been We've been sitting 45 00:03:12.199 --> 00:03:15.800 on this episode since November and I've just been itching to get it out, 46 00:03:15.800 --> 00:03:20.360 So I'm quite excited. Yeah, anything you'd like to add before we hop 47 00:03:20.439 --> 00:03:23.240 right into the conversation. Um, yeah, just just thanks to all of 48 00:03:23.280 --> 00:03:27.599 our fans for sticking with us through the second season. And of course that 49 00:03:27.599 --> 00:03:30.159 means we're gonna take a little bit of a brace the third season. Yes, 50 00:03:30.280 --> 00:03:34.800 the third season. Sorry to the third season, well new fans, 51 00:03:34.800 --> 00:03:38.080 it's only the second season for them that they have available. Sure, but 52 00:03:38.159 --> 00:03:40.240 yeah, thanks for sticking it out. And then we'll see you guys in 53 00:03:40.280 --> 00:03:45.000 a little while. Yeah, we'll be coming back in April. M we're 54 00:03:45.000 --> 00:03:47.479 gonna take a little break. We're gonna go on our Tucson Adventure to the 55 00:03:47.479 --> 00:03:52.159 Tusson Erotica Art Show. So if you haven't followed them yet on social media, 56 00:03:52.400 --> 00:03:54.840 do that. We'll be posting lots of fun things about it on our 57 00:03:54.879 --> 00:03:58.479 Instagram, so make sure you follow us there as well to keep up to 58 00:03:58.560 --> 00:04:02.080 date on what we're up to during our off season. And without further if 59 00:04:02.159 --> 00:04:05.840 you if you do want to continue listening to new episodes, you can sign 60 00:04:05.879 --> 00:04:10.479 up for our patreo. We have so many bonuses and they'll be gone. 61 00:04:10.520 --> 00:04:14.080 They're going to continue going those don't go on break. Yes, correct, 62 00:04:14.159 --> 00:04:16.600 so shout out to Billy. He's going to keep getting all the good stuff 63 00:04:17.680 --> 00:04:21.439 because he's our Patreon member. Um. But yeah, if you don't know 64 00:04:21.439 --> 00:04:28.360 who lou and lou Land is, she is an incredible British woman who gained 65 00:04:28.360 --> 00:04:33.399 a social media following by her take and stance on and adventures with metapause and 66 00:04:33.920 --> 00:04:39.360 just living a fun, free naked lifestyle. Um she does a lot of 67 00:04:39.360 --> 00:04:41.600 cool things and they can't wait free to learn more about her. Um, 68 00:04:42.519 --> 00:04:56.439 have fun. You were in the hospital recently, how are you doing? 69 00:04:57.199 --> 00:05:00.319 How more? I think I was chronically de I drated and got a terrible 70 00:05:01.079 --> 00:05:04.720 kidney infection. It was so awful. I've never found so awful. It 71 00:05:04.759 --> 00:05:08.800 was terrible, and I think it was just I think it was just the 72 00:05:08.879 --> 00:05:12.160 straight It was the stress of sort of all the move and ending the tour 73 00:05:12.439 --> 00:05:15.759 and put British tap water is so gross. I couldn't drink it. I 74 00:05:15.759 --> 00:05:18.720 literally hadn't drunk a drop of water all week. I'd drunk his gin and 75 00:05:18.800 --> 00:05:23.800 champagne. I've been so neat. I was so many welcome home drinks. 76 00:05:23.879 --> 00:05:29.240 I was like, literally put my savage hospitals out. Yeah, I was 77 00:05:29.279 --> 00:05:31.000 a bit. I was a bit shameful of be honest, and everyone was 78 00:05:31.040 --> 00:05:33.720 so loved. Everybody on Instagram was so lovely to me, and I was 79 00:05:33.800 --> 00:05:41.519 like I drunk myself into the hospitalist. It's not okay. I remember reading 80 00:05:41.560 --> 00:05:44.240 the caption and I was like, I love it because I had. The 81 00:05:44.279 --> 00:05:47.319 way I found you was I was I watched your interview with Alice Alice B. 82 00:05:47.439 --> 00:05:51.800 Wilder, she's a vulva artist and yeah that Instagram live with her a 83 00:05:51.839 --> 00:05:55.519 while back, and that was my first time ever seeing you, and I 84 00:05:55.519 --> 00:05:58.560 was like, oh my gosh, I'm obsessed with this woman. And I 85 00:05:58.600 --> 00:06:00.800 was like following you on everything, watching all of your videos and your interviews, 86 00:06:00.839 --> 00:06:03.720 and I was like, oh, this is incredible. So I'm very 87 00:06:03.759 --> 00:06:06.439 much geeking out over here. You're one of the first people where I was 88 00:06:06.519 --> 00:06:10.399 like, I would love to talk to this person. I hope they want 89 00:06:10.399 --> 00:06:14.879 to talk to me. Of course, thank you well. I mean, 90 00:06:15.040 --> 00:06:16.680 I love I love a podcast. I always think it's like free therapy. 91 00:06:16.720 --> 00:06:19.720 I have so many breakthroughs in the middle of podcasts. I'm like, yes, 92 00:06:20.120 --> 00:06:26.519 yes, everybody asks questions in different ways, you know. Sometimes it's 93 00:06:26.519 --> 00:06:30.360 about getting older, Sometimes it's about taking my clothes off. Sometimes it's about 94 00:06:30.360 --> 00:06:33.759 the vibrato. Sometimes it's about also I you know, everybody asks you questions 95 00:06:33.759 --> 00:06:38.199 in such different ways. I get to think about and reflect on my life 96 00:06:38.240 --> 00:06:40.720 so much. I kind of love it, and I was halfway through one 97 00:06:40.720 --> 00:06:42.639 about a couple of years ago, and I'm like, shit, this is 98 00:06:42.839 --> 00:06:45.800 oh my god. You see what I did then? Fuck? Oh god, 99 00:06:45.959 --> 00:06:48.000 I'm a genius. And so I was like, it's like literally like 100 00:06:48.120 --> 00:06:53.720 therapy. So thank you. Yeah, absolutely. And my name is Rihanna 101 00:06:53.839 --> 00:06:57.199 and this is my producer, me and Adam, I producer and Adam. 102 00:06:57.240 --> 00:07:00.800 How are you. Oh I'm good. I'm good, good, excited to 103 00:07:00.920 --> 00:07:05.920 talk to you. Thank you well, Lou. We're in Austin, Texas, 104 00:07:06.000 --> 00:07:12.439 so that's where we're based out of. So it's very fun hearing about 105 00:07:12.480 --> 00:07:15.879 your times in the US and what that's been like and just hearing the differences 106 00:07:15.879 --> 00:07:18.480 and everything. Because you when you lived in the US, you lived in 107 00:07:18.519 --> 00:07:23.480 Oregon, right, Yeah, I lived in Oregon for eight years. I 108 00:07:23.519 --> 00:07:27.480 actually came through Austin on my tour, so I wish we found each other 109 00:07:27.560 --> 00:07:31.639 soon are gone. That would have been fun. I loved Austin. I 110 00:07:31.639 --> 00:07:34.439 think it's one of the favorite places that I went on the tour. Everyone's 111 00:07:34.439 --> 00:07:36.680 always like, what was your favorite place? I'm like, Austin, but 112 00:07:36.800 --> 00:07:40.959 sure, I loved it. I love the people I met, the most 113 00:07:41.800 --> 00:07:46.839 sane, fun, kind, generous, people. It's where I got first 114 00:07:46.839 --> 00:07:50.560 sniff of Southern hospitality in realize it's a real thing. Um So, yeah, 115 00:07:50.600 --> 00:07:54.279 it was amazing. I loved it. I love Austin. If I 116 00:07:54.319 --> 00:07:58.279 could live anywhere, I would move to Austin. I think, wow, 117 00:07:58.439 --> 00:08:01.399 yeah, it's id have fun here for sure. We're Texas native, so 118 00:08:01.439 --> 00:08:03.839 we've lived in different places in Texas and in Arsin's been a good time. 119 00:08:03.879 --> 00:08:07.600 We've been here for about five or six years now. Yeah. Yeah, 120 00:08:07.920 --> 00:08:11.839 it was such a good vibe. I loved It's a good time. Everyone's 121 00:08:11.839 --> 00:08:16.160 really friendly. Yeah, it was super friendly. It's funny because when I 122 00:08:16.199 --> 00:08:18.879 lived in in England, people go out really late, like they go you 123 00:08:20.439 --> 00:08:22.680 meet me down the public, like nine pm. And then when I moved 124 00:08:22.680 --> 00:08:24.920 to Portland, everybody goes out for dinner at five pm. You can't get 125 00:08:24.920 --> 00:08:28.800 a seat in a restaurant at five o'clock. And they're all in bed at 126 00:08:28.920 --> 00:08:33.240 nine, so everything's pretty much closed at nine. And then I threw and 127 00:08:33.799 --> 00:08:37.080 so I used to throw loads of events and I knew how things worked Importland, 128 00:08:37.080 --> 00:08:39.360 and I tried to throw an event in La on a Friday night and 129 00:08:39.399 --> 00:08:41.480 no one turned up. I sold loads of tickets but no one turned up, 130 00:08:41.519 --> 00:08:43.679 and I was like, what the fuck? People buy tickets and then 131 00:08:43.720 --> 00:08:48.039 just don't even show up. Then I got to Austin and everyone turned up 132 00:08:48.120 --> 00:08:52.080 late. I started ticketing people turned out, but they turned up really late 133 00:08:52.120 --> 00:08:54.200 because it's so hot right there, everyone just comes out a bit later. 134 00:08:54.519 --> 00:08:58.600 It stays out late. And then where did I get to next? And 135 00:08:58.639 --> 00:09:01.399 they just don't go to sleep? Oh that's right, Tennessee. Where was 136 00:09:01.440 --> 00:09:05.960 I Nashville? No one actually went to bed at all. It is so 137 00:09:05.200 --> 00:09:11.360 everywhere I went it was just like completely different. Everyone in Nashville. Yeah, 138 00:09:11.399 --> 00:09:13.120 we don't come out to all about ten eleven because it's too hot. 139 00:09:15.679 --> 00:09:18.960 It's funny, makes sense, like I would wait till school for sure. 140 00:09:20.120 --> 00:09:22.480 Yeah, definitely. Okay, I really timed the tall badly. I just 141 00:09:22.519 --> 00:09:26.320 followed the heat basically, which meant everywhere I went and went, why is 142 00:09:26.320 --> 00:09:30.480 there no one here? Like where? And everyone had warned me. They 143 00:09:30.480 --> 00:09:33.720 said, you know you're going really you're really going the wrong way from stinking 144 00:09:33.720 --> 00:09:35.279 hot, and I was like, I'll be fine, I'll be fine. 145 00:09:35.360 --> 00:09:39.559 Well, oh my god, I was just lying with a wet towel straped 146 00:09:39.639 --> 00:09:45.679 over me. And in Austin on the floor of the bus to go while 147 00:09:45.679 --> 00:09:50.679 were I thinking. I spent most of my time in Barton Springs just lying 148 00:09:50.720 --> 00:09:54.919 in the in the river there. Yeah, it was wicked, wicked. 149 00:09:54.960 --> 00:09:58.120 I got what everyone likes to hang out for sure. Yeah, I happened 150 00:09:58.159 --> 00:10:03.039 upon a I was stand up paddling and sort of like turned the corner and 151 00:10:03.039 --> 00:10:07.759 there was like a house and people on their stand up padding from DJ playing 152 00:10:07.840 --> 00:10:13.200 and everyone's drinking out. These are my people. I love it. Yeah, 153 00:10:13.279 --> 00:10:18.039 a good good time. So for the people that don't know about your 154 00:10:18.200 --> 00:10:24.080 self, Love Revolution Tour, what is that? Well, um, it's 155 00:10:24.120 --> 00:10:26.960 been a long time coming. I think I just I kind of found my 156 00:10:28.000 --> 00:10:31.840 confidence in middle age. I kind of sort of hit my stride. You 157 00:10:31.879 --> 00:10:33.759 know. I think I spent a lot of my life thinking, oh, 158 00:10:33.759 --> 00:10:37.559 you know, oh god, I'm thirty, you know, oh god, 159 00:10:37.559 --> 00:10:41.080 now I'm forty. And actually as I started to get towards fifty, I 160 00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:45.279 was like fuck yeah, and then these fifty I don't know, I just 161 00:10:45.279 --> 00:10:46.879 found as I got older, I started to give a lot less bucks. 162 00:10:46.960 --> 00:10:50.559 I mean I've always been pretty like, um, you know, live and 163 00:10:50.639 --> 00:10:52.080 let live, and you know, I've always trying to make the most of 164 00:10:52.120 --> 00:10:58.080 my life. But I just started to give less bucks and care a little 165 00:10:58.080 --> 00:11:01.960 bit less about what people think, and I started to find my confidence. 166 00:11:01.000 --> 00:11:05.120 When we moved to America, I think, which was eight years ago, 167 00:11:05.879 --> 00:11:11.519 I was forty two. I'd done it. I'd always been a terrible shopperholic, 168 00:11:13.200 --> 00:11:15.960 and when I was forty one, I woke up I'd bought a ridiculously 169 00:11:15.960 --> 00:11:18.000 expensive pair of shoes. And I woke up in the middle of the night 170 00:11:18.080 --> 00:11:22.200 having a cold sweat that I spent all this money on a pair of shoes. 171 00:11:22.200 --> 00:11:24.879 I've been I was working for social services at the time, working with 172 00:11:24.960 --> 00:11:28.279 families in crisis, and I don't know where I thought I was wearing these 173 00:11:28.279 --> 00:11:31.639 shoes. I really don't. But I bought these blooming shoes and it was 174 00:11:31.639 --> 00:11:33.480 a shoe too far, and I was like, I've got to change. 175 00:11:33.519 --> 00:11:37.600 I'm sick. I've been in debt all my life. I just run myself 176 00:11:37.679 --> 00:11:39.399 up credit cards, catalogs. You know, you name me. If you 177 00:11:39.480 --> 00:11:41.799 give me a sniff of credit, I would spend a lot. And then 178 00:11:41.840 --> 00:11:45.919 I was all, it was a shifty way to live. I'd run my 179 00:11:45.960 --> 00:11:48.200 husband and too debt, you know, secret credit cards. I forw in 180 00:11:48.279 --> 00:11:54.039 his name. I'd stolen money from work with I proper addiction to spending, 181 00:11:54.360 --> 00:11:56.960 and I was like, this is this is it. It's gotta finish. 182 00:11:56.039 --> 00:12:00.159 So I gave up shopping that year. I was like, I woke up 183 00:12:00.200 --> 00:12:01.279 the next morning and I went right, I'm giving up shopping for a whole 184 00:12:01.320 --> 00:12:05.559 year. I'm not buy anything anything, no clothes, no except there is 185 00:12:05.639 --> 00:12:09.759 nothing. Um. My husband at the time was like all right then, 186 00:12:09.000 --> 00:12:11.399 and I was like, no, I'm going to do it. And I 187 00:12:11.440 --> 00:12:15.600 did it. I set up a blog the next day. It was early 188 00:12:15.720 --> 00:12:18.759 early days of blogs. It was only Tumbler. I had it on Tumbler. 189 00:12:18.919 --> 00:12:22.759 Instagram hadn't even started Facebook. With a round Oh hang, I'm sorry. 190 00:12:22.759 --> 00:12:26.120 I just dropped you. I decided to talk to you on the bed 191 00:12:26.320 --> 00:12:35.679 and then very stable, um and um. I did it. I set 192 00:12:35.759 --> 00:12:37.679 up this blog and I wore a different outfit every day for a whole year, 193 00:12:37.720 --> 00:12:41.519 and I still had outfits to spare at the end. And I started 194 00:12:41.559 --> 00:12:43.759 writing on the blog. You know what it was like. It was a 195 00:12:43.879 --> 00:12:48.080 proper sort of like withdrawal, Like it almost like I was given up drugs, 196 00:12:48.120 --> 00:12:50.559 like cold turkey. I had to change my route home from work, 197 00:12:50.600 --> 00:12:54.360 so I didn't pass stores and I had just stopped buying magazines and just you 198 00:12:54.399 --> 00:12:56.279 know, to change my behavior a lot. And at the end of the 199 00:12:56.360 --> 00:13:01.600 year, I bought two things over the year, but we don't talk about 200 00:13:01.600 --> 00:13:03.919 that. We're just gloss over. But can't you can't judge me. They 201 00:13:03.919 --> 00:13:09.799 were special Anyway, After the year finished, I was so proud of myself 202 00:13:11.039 --> 00:13:13.720 and I was such I was like, fuck, what is that feeling? 203 00:13:13.840 --> 00:13:16.200 And it was like, I actually feel proud of myself and it was one 204 00:13:16.200 --> 00:13:18.919 of the first times in my life it's got actually proud of myself. And 205 00:13:20.039 --> 00:13:22.600 then I was like, ohso, what is that other funny feeling? And 206 00:13:22.600 --> 00:13:24.960 it was confidence? And I was like, I'm forty one. This is 207 00:13:24.960 --> 00:13:28.320 the first time I feel proud of myself and I feel confident. I mean, 208 00:13:28.480 --> 00:13:30.960 you know, I felt proud of when I'd had my son, but 209 00:13:31.000 --> 00:13:33.080 then I had postnatal depression with him for a couple of years. You know, 210 00:13:33.200 --> 00:13:37.480 even that I didn't feel particularly proud of. I had quite a traumatic 211 00:13:37.480 --> 00:13:39.759 birth, so I felt like I hadn't done that properly. So this is 212 00:13:39.759 --> 00:13:43.679 the first thing I've kind of done for myself, and I felt really proud 213 00:13:43.679 --> 00:13:45.960 of myself, and for the first time in my life, I thought, 214 00:13:45.960 --> 00:13:48.799 oh my god, what if I can achieve that? If I could not 215 00:13:48.960 --> 00:13:52.799 shop for a whole year, what else could I possibly do if I set 216 00:13:52.840 --> 00:13:54.919 my mind to it? And then I was like, I just need to 217 00:13:54.000 --> 00:13:56.279 decide what I want to do, and I'm going to be fucking great. 218 00:13:56.480 --> 00:14:00.440 And then it took me really long time to figure out what that was going 219 00:14:00.519 --> 00:14:05.120 to be. And I always felt like life was had to be more than 220 00:14:05.159 --> 00:14:07.159 about just me, and then it was my dad was a vicar, which 221 00:14:07.200 --> 00:14:11.720 is a minute of church. He's in the church and ministers. It's Biscopalian, 222 00:14:11.240 --> 00:14:15.759 and my mum's in probation in the probation service and worked with some quite 223 00:14:15.799 --> 00:14:20.960 serious offenders. So Phrasiers was like, is it godt you know? I 224 00:14:20.960 --> 00:14:22.600 always thought there was something more in me, and I worked with kids in 225 00:14:22.639 --> 00:14:26.120 care for a very long time and I thought maybe that was it. And 226 00:14:26.159 --> 00:14:30.759 then as my confidence started to grow after the non shopping project, we moved 227 00:14:30.759 --> 00:14:35.080 to America not long after, and it was just a really it was an 228 00:14:35.080 --> 00:14:39.200 amazing blessing to be able to leave your life and to start again in another 229 00:14:39.200 --> 00:14:43.600 country, almost to reinvent yourself, and so I had this pause on real 230 00:14:43.639 --> 00:14:46.559 life almost. Um, it's funny. Now I'm home and I've just moved 231 00:14:46.600 --> 00:14:48.840 back. I feel like I've been on an eight years vacation and now I've 232 00:14:48.840 --> 00:14:50.919 got to go back to work, like this is real life now, I 233 00:14:50.919 --> 00:14:56.960 feel like I've just this like amazing, had this gift of pause and time. 234 00:14:58.000 --> 00:15:00.279 And I couldn't work when we first got there. We up for my 235 00:15:00.360 --> 00:15:05.000 husband's job and I couldn't work because I didn't have a visa for working. 236 00:15:05.080 --> 00:15:09.559 I went as his dependent. And I was busy trying to get us un 237 00:15:09.679 --> 00:15:13.000 established in school, and you know, you know, I was a soccer 238 00:15:13.080 --> 00:15:16.039 mom across mum snowboard team. Mum, I mean, has just insane. 239 00:15:16.080 --> 00:15:18.440 It was just, you know, it was such a busy life doing that. 240 00:15:18.960 --> 00:15:24.399 And I threw myself into the PTA at school and I started hiking. 241 00:15:24.440 --> 00:15:28.240 Someone had bought us a book to welcome us to Portland. Someone had done 242 00:15:28.279 --> 00:15:31.799 us a hamper of Portland things. I think there was an axe and some 243 00:15:31.919 --> 00:15:35.759 coffee and I don't know, but there was a hiking book twenty best hikes 244 00:15:35.799 --> 00:15:39.200 within an hour and a half of Portland. So I was like, oh, 245 00:15:39.279 --> 00:15:41.960 you know, I've no real friends, and I didn't know what to 246 00:15:41.960 --> 00:15:45.159 do with myself. I decided to go on one of these hikes. I 247 00:15:45.200 --> 00:15:46.559 got back from the hike and posted a few pictures of me by a walk 248 00:15:48.080 --> 00:15:52.799 and a few of the few of the mums had started to meet were on 249 00:15:52.840 --> 00:15:54.440 Facebook and they saw and they were like, oh, we'll come with you. 250 00:15:54.879 --> 00:15:56.840 And so the next week I went, all right, meet me at 251 00:15:56.840 --> 00:16:00.639 the coffee shop by school and we could go and do one of other kids 252 00:16:00.639 --> 00:16:06.240 at school. And so literally, really quickly I formed Hike Squad. I 253 00:16:06.320 --> 00:16:11.600 just collected women all over town. They would see the post and they, 254 00:16:11.919 --> 00:16:12.799 you know, they go, can we come, And I'm like, yeah, 255 00:16:12.799 --> 00:16:17.159 I'll can bring my mate. Yeah. Each week it would vary from 256 00:16:17.200 --> 00:16:21.000 some weeks we would have like fifteen women. Some weeks we now have two. 257 00:16:22.240 --> 00:16:26.000 And so hike Squad was born, and I had the most amazing crew 258 00:16:26.039 --> 00:16:29.799 of women. There was a hardcore of about eight of us that kind of 259 00:16:29.960 --> 00:16:33.440 were always sort of regular solid hike Squaders. And then we started doing bigger 260 00:16:33.480 --> 00:16:36.720 and bigger tricks. So we do a little week, we do one in 261 00:16:36.720 --> 00:16:40.039 the week or every other week, and then we've done the Grand Canyon. 262 00:16:40.159 --> 00:16:45.840 We walked up Mount Saint Helen's. We've circumnavigated Mount Hood, We've well, 263 00:16:45.960 --> 00:16:49.759 oh my god, we've done so many hikes. And so my confidence met 264 00:16:49.759 --> 00:16:52.879 these amazing women, and my confidence started to grow. And I started cross 265 00:16:52.919 --> 00:16:56.519 fit, and which I just changed my life. I met amazing bunch of 266 00:16:56.519 --> 00:17:00.440 people who are just like you know, they'll clap you while you're dying on 267 00:17:00.480 --> 00:17:03.720 the side of the road, you know, And that was a really empowering 268 00:17:03.960 --> 00:17:11.079 and I just started to grow in confidence and really started to find myself and 269 00:17:11.200 --> 00:17:15.000 I started, you know, I love It's a very long answer to one 270 00:17:15.079 --> 00:17:19.000 question. Sorry. I was like, she'll get to the Self Love Revolution 271 00:17:19.039 --> 00:17:22.839 Tour eventually. I'm just letting you go. I love listening to you. 272 00:17:23.400 --> 00:17:26.039 Often when I do a podcast it ends up being a two partner because I 273 00:17:26.079 --> 00:17:29.279 don't be shut up. Yeah you have to. We have to have a 274 00:17:29.319 --> 00:17:32.200 safety words. You need to give me a signal like the fuck up. 275 00:17:33.680 --> 00:17:37.880 It's just such a long it was such as so many parts of it to 276 00:17:37.960 --> 00:17:41.200 get to this. So I started to find my confidence, and then my 277 00:17:41.279 --> 00:17:45.319 husband and I just started to really drift apart. As my confidence was soaring, 278 00:17:45.440 --> 00:17:48.799 his was he was struggling with his job. He really didn't enjoy America 279 00:17:48.880 --> 00:17:52.400 so much. He hadn't found his people like I had. He'd been, 280 00:17:52.480 --> 00:17:56.680 you know, I'm busy swalling around up down volcanoes. He's you know, 281 00:17:56.759 --> 00:18:00.720 he's struggling at work, having to actually pay for me just worn around volcanoes. 282 00:18:00.799 --> 00:18:04.680 But we really just started to lose each other and he was really struggling, 283 00:18:06.440 --> 00:18:11.640 and he then parted company with his job and he went and took contact 284 00:18:11.640 --> 00:18:15.200 in New York. And then we really really did drift apart because he went 285 00:18:15.240 --> 00:18:18.279 for three months, ended up staying eighteen and we saw each other regularly, 286 00:18:18.319 --> 00:18:22.039 but the gap in between when he come home and was just like, yeah, 287 00:18:22.079 --> 00:18:26.279 we had less and less in common, and we had really drifted apart. 288 00:18:26.359 --> 00:18:30.160 So then when COVID hit, that was challenging, we suddenly got locked 289 00:18:30.160 --> 00:18:34.279 down together like that, unfortunately was the end of our twenty year marriage, 290 00:18:36.119 --> 00:18:41.480 which was cripplingly sad because no one did anything. You know, it sounds 291 00:18:41.599 --> 00:18:45.960 we just literally lost each other along the way, and we just ended up 292 00:18:45.000 --> 00:18:49.039 wanting different things and he found he actually found my confidence I think quite difficult, 293 00:18:51.599 --> 00:18:56.759 and so we separated during lockdown, which was really hard, and so 294 00:18:57.000 --> 00:19:00.720 as soon as lot might. I was running a little rent my lardrobe business. 295 00:19:00.720 --> 00:19:03.000 So I've got the most I've got quite an epic collection of clothes, 296 00:19:03.039 --> 00:19:06.920 and I started rent my wardrobe because I love. Women were coming to the 297 00:19:06.960 --> 00:19:08.599 wardrobe and I was getting dressed up, and I was, you know, 298 00:19:10.039 --> 00:19:12.720 renting out my clothes for them to go to weddings and parties and the whole 299 00:19:12.759 --> 00:19:17.519 on vacations. They would rent all my rent the vintage, and I loved 300 00:19:17.559 --> 00:19:19.680 the impact that was having on these women. And I was like, fuck 301 00:19:19.759 --> 00:19:22.880 yeah, you know when I could see myself and these women and you know, 302 00:19:23.240 --> 00:19:26.920 giving them confidence and passing that arm was just filling my cup up so 303 00:19:27.000 --> 00:19:29.880 much. I was like, maybe this is what I meant to do. 304 00:19:30.559 --> 00:19:33.839 And as the lockdown was the Foos lockdown here, obviously no one was renting 305 00:19:33.880 --> 00:19:37.400 any clothes for that business. Ground world fairly crickly, but and I was 306 00:19:37.400 --> 00:19:40.839 like, I'm gonna cheer everybody up on the internet. That's what I'm going 307 00:19:40.880 --> 00:19:44.680 to do. And an Instagram had been growing through the hikes and the vintage 308 00:19:44.720 --> 00:19:47.640 and the styling stuff. Instagram had been growing slow. I probably had about 309 00:19:47.640 --> 00:19:51.039 eight or nine thousand parts. I guess as we went into Lockdown, and 310 00:19:51.079 --> 00:19:56.519 then I started doing more, doing just some fun stuff and talking about confidence 311 00:19:56.519 --> 00:19:59.599 and positivity. And I was going through the menopause and I was like, 312 00:19:59.680 --> 00:20:03.720 fuck, yeah, I feel fucking great. Supposed to I was going to 313 00:20:03.799 --> 00:20:07.720 dread this and actually feel great, and I all the time and behind the 314 00:20:07.759 --> 00:20:11.440 scenes kind of leaving Guy and i'd separated, I got into the spare room 315 00:20:11.440 --> 00:20:15.279 and I was feeling fantastic. It's awful because I was like, you know, 316 00:20:15.920 --> 00:20:19.400 while it's cripplingly sad, it was empowering me and I was getting stronger 317 00:20:19.400 --> 00:20:22.759 and stronger. And the more I talked about my confidence, more women were 318 00:20:22.759 --> 00:20:26.799 flocking to Instagram and loving coming for the confidence and the positivity. So Lockdown 319 00:20:26.880 --> 00:20:32.000 was such a game changer for me. And so then I started to write 320 00:20:32.200 --> 00:20:37.480 an online positive positivity course, Positivity Rebellion, I called it. And I 321 00:20:37.519 --> 00:20:41.759 wrote a whole online course that was just about to launch, and then Lockdown 322 00:20:41.920 --> 00:20:44.440 ended, and I was like, no one wants to do an online course 323 00:20:44.519 --> 00:20:48.759 every again, and everyone sort of like, I don't know, since COVID, 324 00:20:48.799 --> 00:20:52.319 I think everyone's just looking for connection, right. People don't want to 325 00:20:52.480 --> 00:20:55.880 want to buy any more stuff. We don't need any more stuff. Everyone's 326 00:20:55.880 --> 00:21:00.960 gone enough stuff. People are looking for feeling and connection and adventures and experiences. 327 00:21:02.960 --> 00:21:06.559 And I just had so many women write to me, and she was 328 00:21:06.599 --> 00:21:10.480 sharing their deepest, darkest secrets, you know, their husband's leaving them, 329 00:21:10.559 --> 00:21:12.440 or their menopause problems. And I was like, initially, I found that 330 00:21:12.519 --> 00:21:17.319 quite sad that so many women would open up to a stranger who they didn't 331 00:21:17.359 --> 00:21:21.200 know. But I also I sometimes I think I sound like a bit of 332 00:21:21.240 --> 00:21:23.640 a wanker, but I take those things. I take it quite seriously when 333 00:21:23.720 --> 00:21:26.480 people write to me with their problems, Like, I can't just dismiss that 334 00:21:26.519 --> 00:21:30.359 people. God, God believe you replied, I'm like, you just told 335 00:21:30.400 --> 00:21:33.079 me your husband's left you, you've got breast cancer? What am I going 336 00:21:33.119 --> 00:21:34.759 to do? Not reply to you? Sometimes it can take me a few 337 00:21:34.839 --> 00:21:38.880 days, but I will always reply to you. And I'm like, how 338 00:21:38.880 --> 00:21:41.400 can we meet you? How can we meet you? And you know, 339 00:21:41.680 --> 00:21:45.720 I'd stayed in the house. I stayed in the house with guys through lockdown, 340 00:21:45.799 --> 00:21:48.880 and our son was at high school, and so I started to think 341 00:21:48.880 --> 00:21:52.519 about when Oscar graduates from high school, what am I going to do? 342 00:21:52.640 --> 00:21:55.079 Where am I going to go? And my mum died at the end of 343 00:21:55.160 --> 00:21:59.079 last year from Alzheimer's, and so I started to feel a bit of a 344 00:21:59.160 --> 00:22:00.680 drawer to come back take care of my dad a little bit, and you 345 00:22:00.720 --> 00:22:07.200 know, I miss England and America's a bit scary by myself um, and 346 00:22:07.279 --> 00:22:11.599 so I decided I would move home and businesses. You know, there's a 347 00:22:11.640 --> 00:22:17.480 good business for me here. They talk the menopause conversations a lot further ahead 348 00:22:17.599 --> 00:22:22.000 here, and I don't know, I'm quite a British people are quite negative 349 00:22:22.759 --> 00:22:25.880 or can be, so I you know, I think I'm a bit of 350 00:22:25.920 --> 00:22:29.200 an antidote for that. And my followers a real fifty fifty. There's a 351 00:22:29.359 --> 00:22:33.160 real fifty percent American fifty percent and when I'm very popular in Melbourne, Australia, 352 00:22:33.200 --> 00:22:40.319 but anyway, I'm very popular in India, about twenty percent of our 353 00:22:40.359 --> 00:22:45.000 listener bases in India. And I was like, there's always different pockets. 354 00:22:45.079 --> 00:22:47.640 So I was like, I didn't know it would be so consistent in India, 355 00:22:47.759 --> 00:22:51.279 a very that's where they need these conversations the most. I get it. 356 00:22:51.759 --> 00:22:55.319 Yeah, And so I thought, well, I could just get on 357 00:22:55.359 --> 00:22:57.720 a plane and fly home with all my stuff, or I could I could 358 00:22:57.720 --> 00:23:02.640 do something. And just as I was wondering what I could do, I 359 00:23:02.839 --> 00:23:04.640 drove by a vintage bus on the side of the road. It was an 360 00:23:04.640 --> 00:23:07.759 old Greyhound bus that someone had done up into a camper. And I was 361 00:23:07.799 --> 00:23:11.519 with my mate, who I've actually just been in Waynes with. We drove 362 00:23:11.559 --> 00:23:14.079 by and saw this bus and we jumped out to have a look and we 363 00:23:14.160 --> 00:23:15.599 were like, fuck, this is brilliant. Imagine. I was like, 364 00:23:15.640 --> 00:23:18.880 what can I do with the bus? What can I do with this bus? 365 00:23:18.160 --> 00:23:22.559 Anyway, that night I went home and I didn't know where the boys 366 00:23:22.599 --> 00:23:25.680 were. They were both out. But there was a huge storm. I 367 00:23:25.799 --> 00:23:29.680 had a joint and a gin. There was this huge storm and a tree 368 00:23:30.000 --> 00:23:33.880 and this hundred one hundred years absolutely huge fell down. We lived in a 369 00:23:33.920 --> 00:23:36.799 forest, fell down click the edge of the house, tick the edge of 370 00:23:36.799 --> 00:23:38.680 the neighbor, but fell between the two houses. Well, they'd fallen on 371 00:23:38.720 --> 00:23:42.559 the house and be dead. And I was like, it's a fig I 372 00:23:42.640 --> 00:23:48.599 need to buy the bus. And so I became obsessed with the idea of 373 00:23:48.680 --> 00:23:51.319 us. And I knew that that wasn't the right bus, but I was 374 00:23:51.359 --> 00:23:52.920 like, oh, one of us, I'm going to go on tour. 375 00:23:52.960 --> 00:23:55.440 I want to take Lu and lu Land on tour. I want to go 376 00:23:55.440 --> 00:23:57.200 out and meet these women. I want to go out and connect with people, 377 00:23:57.240 --> 00:24:00.640 and I want to go out and pople are always like, ho, 378 00:24:00.680 --> 00:24:02.759 do you meet your squad? How do you meet your people? And I'm 379 00:24:02.799 --> 00:24:06.440 like, women find it people. It's not just women. People find it 380 00:24:06.440 --> 00:24:08.759 hard sometimes to find their people. You're stuck in your day to day routine 381 00:24:08.839 --> 00:24:11.920 and I don't know, it's hard. And I thought, well, I 382 00:24:12.119 --> 00:24:15.440 could do. I could throw events and I'll roll into town. I'll throw 383 00:24:15.480 --> 00:24:18.119 events. I'll connect people in there. You know. I'll put all these 384 00:24:18.160 --> 00:24:21.839 rad women together and I'll connect them, and then I'll roll onto the next 385 00:24:21.839 --> 00:24:23.559 town and then they get over it and I'll go and do it and I'll 386 00:24:23.559 --> 00:24:27.119 meet all these people. And That's what I'll do. And then I was 387 00:24:27.160 --> 00:24:30.200 chatting to a friend literally two or three days later, telling her about my 388 00:24:30.240 --> 00:24:33.240 plan, and she went, oh, I think I know someone. I've 389 00:24:33.279 --> 00:24:37.440 got a friend down in Phoenix, Arizona who's renting some land to someone who's 390 00:24:37.440 --> 00:24:41.000 got a funky They're flipping an old bus. They've got an old bluebird wonder 391 00:24:41.000 --> 00:24:47.200 Lodge who were made by the Bluebird who made the old school buses, and 392 00:24:47.240 --> 00:24:49.880 he's flipped the inside. He's done it all up, and I know he's 393 00:24:49.920 --> 00:24:52.960 looking to put it on the market. And I was like, shiit me 394 00:24:52.039 --> 00:24:56.759 his number. So I texted this guy. I went, I've got a 395 00:24:56.759 --> 00:25:00.880 mate in Portland who says you're renting some land from her mate. And anyway, 396 00:25:00.960 --> 00:25:03.480 I heard your bus is pretty cool. Sent me the pictures. Well 397 00:25:03.680 --> 00:25:07.400 that was it. I mean, my bus was like she's she's h and 398 00:25:07.400 --> 00:25:11.559 she's like a thirty five foot bus. But inside he'd done it up, 399 00:25:11.599 --> 00:25:18.039 like there's green tiger print and there's these funky um palm tree prints everywhere. 400 00:25:18.079 --> 00:25:19.720 And I'm like, if that's not my bus, I just don't know what 401 00:25:19.960 --> 00:25:23.839 is. I you did all that and us did all the degree because it's 402 00:25:23.839 --> 00:25:29.400 so you. Right. Yeah, I added I added the disco ball and 403 00:25:29.440 --> 00:25:32.519 some bits and bobs, but I was like, that's so my bus. 404 00:25:32.640 --> 00:25:34.160 I was like, you have this is my Instagram. This is what I 405 00:25:34.160 --> 00:25:37.400 want to do. I don't have the money. You have to wait for 406 00:25:37.480 --> 00:25:40.400 me. Please can you give me some time anyway? You can have four 407 00:25:40.440 --> 00:25:42.599 weeks. So it gave me. He gave me a month, and I 408 00:25:42.720 --> 00:25:45.200 was like, what I'm gonna do, What we're gonna do? What I'm 409 00:25:45.240 --> 00:25:49.119 gonna do? Uh? And I crowdfunded it. I just I sold seats. 410 00:25:49.160 --> 00:25:53.799 I sold seats on the bus to friends and family and some Instagram um 411 00:25:55.000 --> 00:26:00.720 brands that I've worked with before. I did a whole presentation of like thousand 412 00:26:00.720 --> 00:26:02.880 dollars for a seat on the bus. This is what you get, my 413 00:26:02.960 --> 00:26:10.599 undying love and a ride on the bus. And this is what this is 414 00:26:10.640 --> 00:26:11.559 my mission, this is what I want to do. I want to use 415 00:26:11.599 --> 00:26:15.480 it to empower him, and I want to use it as a a a 416 00:26:15.960 --> 00:26:21.160 vessel to bring people together. I just want to I don't want to make 417 00:26:21.160 --> 00:26:25.000 her really crazy on the outside, so she's a good talking point. And 418 00:26:25.039 --> 00:26:29.400 I raised the money in a week and bought the bus. And then on 419 00:26:30.039 --> 00:26:32.960 Christmas Day, the day after Christmas Day last year, I took I got 420 00:26:33.039 --> 00:26:37.559 one way ticket down to Phoenix, Arizona to go and collect her. I 421 00:26:37.759 --> 00:26:41.240 trunged, trungled off the plane, got an uber, got to the field 422 00:26:41.279 --> 00:26:45.039 where she was waiting, and I just took one look at her and fell 423 00:26:45.079 --> 00:26:48.319 onto my knees and burst into tears. I was like, what have I 424 00:26:48.480 --> 00:26:52.799 done? What have I done. I'm absolutely like, this is ridiculous. 425 00:26:52.799 --> 00:26:56.160 I'm never going to be able to drive her. Um, but I say 426 00:26:56.240 --> 00:27:00.839 my follow up question was, that's what is it like driving the dank bus 427 00:27:00.839 --> 00:27:04.119 around? It's so scary. Well, number one, you don't even have 428 00:27:04.160 --> 00:27:07.160 to have a special license, which is terrifying, and honestly you really should. 429 00:27:08.920 --> 00:27:11.640 It's so scary. Some steaks you do with, some steaks don't. 430 00:27:11.720 --> 00:27:15.240 Obviously, Luckily Arizona wasn't one of them. So I was like, oh, 431 00:27:15.319 --> 00:27:19.759 buy, so I pick her up in the first afternoon. He kind 432 00:27:19.799 --> 00:27:22.640 of showed me around the bus, so he'd only he'd bought the bus just 433 00:27:22.680 --> 00:27:26.960 to flip it, and so he didn't really know he hadn't been away in 434 00:27:26.039 --> 00:27:29.640 it. I couldn't tell me. And she's so old, she's like nineteen 435 00:27:29.680 --> 00:27:32.680 eighty three, so she's so quirky. She's got like you have to have 436 00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:34.519 hold one thing with one hand and kick it with the left to make it 437 00:27:34.519 --> 00:27:37.680 work, like it's you need. I needed someone who could teach me the 438 00:27:37.759 --> 00:27:41.400 insidey bits or the camper vanny bits, Like I'm like, how do I 439 00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:44.519 turn the cest cooker on? He'm like, wow, I mean I think 440 00:27:44.680 --> 00:27:48.720 that's I think that, and I'm like, so then I went right, 441 00:27:48.759 --> 00:27:51.559 all right, so should we go out for a test drive? You make 442 00:27:51.640 --> 00:27:52.839 yes, and tennis and we go off for a little test drive. I'm 443 00:27:52.839 --> 00:27:56.759 like, oh, three miles an hour and the steering wheel was like this 444 00:27:56.960 --> 00:28:00.720 bit. So I'm like, h we literally made it around the car park 445 00:28:00.759 --> 00:28:03.960 and I get back and I went right, here's what I think. I 446 00:28:03.079 --> 00:28:06.920 would probably stay here for two or three days and maybe you could take me 447 00:28:06.960 --> 00:28:11.440 out each day and in our little practice. So I was like, yeah, 448 00:28:11.440 --> 00:28:15.160 I think that's probably a good idea. So okay, So off he 449 00:28:15.240 --> 00:28:18.519 goes for the night. I spent the night on board and I gone. 450 00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:22.160 I went off and got some shopping, got myself about the champagne, came 451 00:28:22.359 --> 00:28:25.400 back and a couple of glasses of champagne. Made a video for Instagram. 452 00:28:25.519 --> 00:28:26.799 And I hadn't told anybody I was doing it because like, hey, I 453 00:28:26.839 --> 00:28:32.039 didn't believe it was really happening, and I just I just wanted to get 454 00:28:32.119 --> 00:28:34.079 down there and get there and see what I see how it fell. So 455 00:28:34.119 --> 00:28:41.640 I made this video for Instagram. I'm like, I'm done. I bought. 456 00:28:41.799 --> 00:28:45.839 I don't I'm really scared. Oh god, what I done? I'm 457 00:28:45.960 --> 00:28:48.559 so scared. And then I did a really funny tour and I'm just crying 458 00:28:48.599 --> 00:28:52.200 my eyes out. It was a really terrible story. It's all out anyway, 459 00:28:52.200 --> 00:28:56.640 it's so funny. Went to sleep shaking and crying. I wake up 460 00:28:56.640 --> 00:29:00.400 the next morning and Instagram's just like gone wild, and messages from all of 461 00:29:00.440 --> 00:29:06.319 my lou and lu Landians just go, fuck yes, do it, do 462 00:29:06.359 --> 00:29:07.039 it, do it. Oh my god, We're so proud of you. 463 00:29:07.039 --> 00:29:10.680 You've got this, you can do it, like this is amazing, the 464 00:29:10.680 --> 00:29:12.599 best thing I've ever seen. This is a drink. There were so many 465 00:29:12.599 --> 00:29:18.279 people's dreams to drive around and do a road to it um and I woke 466 00:29:18.359 --> 00:29:19.440 up in the morning and just went, fuck, yeah, I can do 467 00:29:19.519 --> 00:29:23.680 it. And he came round. He popped by the bus back ten am 468 00:29:23.759 --> 00:29:26.200 to take me on a rope, to take me on the next test light, 469 00:29:26.279 --> 00:29:29.599 little test run, and I went, I'm going, and he went 470 00:29:30.279 --> 00:29:32.000 what do you mean? And I went, I'm going. I'm just gonna 471 00:29:32.039 --> 00:29:34.359 go because I just can keep practicing for days, or I'm just gonna think 472 00:29:34.359 --> 00:29:37.720 he's better than I just go and he went, you think that's Bella. 473 00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:41.680 I was like, yeah, I'm off and he went, okay. I 474 00:29:41.720 --> 00:29:44.680 literally just got the bus and off I drove. And that's it. I 475 00:29:44.680 --> 00:29:48.160 haven't looked back. How in the wax. I drove her home back to 476 00:29:48.200 --> 00:29:49.319 Oregon. I picked a friend up on the way. She was in Palm 477 00:29:49.319 --> 00:29:52.799 Spring, so I stopped to stay hi to her and show with the US, 478 00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:53.400 and she went to wy me to come with you, and I went, 479 00:29:53.480 --> 00:29:56.160 yeah, that'd be really nice. So she came with me. We 480 00:29:56.279 --> 00:30:00.440 got COVID. We got COVID on the way, so that was She's in 481 00:30:00.480 --> 00:30:03.720 the back shivering. We couldn't get out of the bath room, was in 482 00:30:03.720 --> 00:30:06.920 the bus. I was like, you can't get out of the wise the 483 00:30:06.920 --> 00:30:08.680 b and then we broke down about two or three times. I was like, 484 00:30:08.680 --> 00:30:14.400 oh my god. And then I got home and then I spent the 485 00:30:14.440 --> 00:30:19.119 next couple of months. I did another presentation and started pitching to brands to 486 00:30:19.319 --> 00:30:22.799 sponsor the tour. So I decided on my I just like looked at the 487 00:30:22.839 --> 00:30:26.200 map, or where where have I been? And I've done quite a lot 488 00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:27.720 of the West Coast. We've done that. We're big campus anyway with my 489 00:30:27.799 --> 00:30:30.319 husband UM, and so we've done quite a lot of the West Coast. 490 00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:33.200 So I was like, I just want to go to some places that's never 491 00:30:33.240 --> 00:30:36.759 been Um, I want to go down South because I've been kind of scared 492 00:30:36.799 --> 00:30:41.960 to go down South between the guns and the racism. I just apparently the 493 00:30:42.039 --> 00:30:45.480 lack of get the lack of women's rates that we have, yeah, for 494 00:30:45.559 --> 00:30:48.519 everyone. Yeah. So I was like, I'm sure they're my people. 495 00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:52.680 And then I was like, but there, that's exactly where you need to 496 00:30:52.680 --> 00:30:55.640 be. What's the point in preaching to the choir or preaching to the converted. 497 00:30:55.759 --> 00:30:59.000 They're exactly you know who you need to be, where you need to 498 00:30:59.000 --> 00:31:00.319 be and the people that you need to be reaching out to a meeting. 499 00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:06.119 So I approached some brands that I have worked with before and said, you 500 00:31:06.160 --> 00:31:07.000 know, can you give me some money. I'm going on this tour. 501 00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:11.000 I'm going to do these events in these places. You get me an aim 502 00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:14.880 on the bus. So I'll do you some reels and some posts and promote 503 00:31:14.920 --> 00:31:17.680 you and the events. I'll have your brand, you know, I'll put 504 00:31:17.680 --> 00:31:22.160 your gin. So I ended up with a Vibrator brand, a gin brand, 505 00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:26.240 locally owned women distillery from Portland. I had produced some edibles with an 506 00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:33.839 edibles company. Honestly, I was trumbling around America with gin edibles and vibrators 507 00:31:33.839 --> 00:31:37.480 in the back, came over the border of Texas. I'm breaking so many 508 00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:41.839 lauds right now. If anybody comes on board, I'm going to me in 509 00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:45.880 so much trouble. I literally had two hundred and fifty vibrators and about twenty 510 00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:51.240 gallons of back. I'm so funny, but I did it. I did 511 00:31:51.279 --> 00:31:53.240 it. They sponsored me. I got it wrapped the letter print wrap. 512 00:31:53.440 --> 00:31:56.400 I wrapped it in pink and green leap print and had lou and lou Land 513 00:31:56.400 --> 00:32:00.880 on it. And there's a super cartoon of me on the front and all 514 00:32:00.920 --> 00:32:04.720 the brands are on there, and you know, as I'm driving down the 515 00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:10.279 road, I was like truck drivers. Everyone's like where people out the sunroof 516 00:32:10.400 --> 00:32:15.440 waving at me, like people swerving to try and take pictures while they're driving. 517 00:32:16.039 --> 00:32:20.079 And then every time I sort of like did a leg of the journey, 518 00:32:20.759 --> 00:32:23.359 when I stopped, there'd be emails from people with my websites on the 519 00:32:23.359 --> 00:32:25.359 back. So I'm even me l from people going, oh my god, 520 00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:29.160 I'm just passed you on the freeway. Who the hell are you? What 521 00:32:29.240 --> 00:32:34.039 are you doing? It was just wild. So I set off in June 522 00:32:34.920 --> 00:32:42.519 and I went from Portland. I went through Oregon, Idaho, Utah, 523 00:32:42.799 --> 00:32:47.920 Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, and then I just got so 524 00:32:49.039 --> 00:32:51.559 damn high. Hoped to go down to Louisiana, but I was like, 525 00:32:51.880 --> 00:32:53.480 I am going to die and this there's no air conditioning. While I was 526 00:32:53.559 --> 00:32:57.319 driving. I only at the aircom when I was hooked up. I was 527 00:32:57.440 --> 00:33:00.400 just I was surviving again to get up at four in the morning and like 528 00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:04.920 just do really short trips every day. I had one of those fans that 529 00:33:04.960 --> 00:33:08.039 you put batteries in the spray and that was my air conditioning while I was 530 00:33:08.119 --> 00:33:15.559 driving, Yeah, and Arizona, Austin, and then I started to wait 531 00:33:15.880 --> 00:33:19.519 work my way up to Tennessee and then I broke it down in Nashville for 532 00:33:19.559 --> 00:33:22.720 about three weeks. So it's completely screwed it because I was going to go 533 00:33:22.759 --> 00:33:27.000 over to Georgia and West Virginia and come up and in the end I ended 534 00:33:27.079 --> 00:33:30.640 up being a month in Nashville, which was great, but I was kind 535 00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:34.759 of over Nashville by the time I left, and I had to hear it. 536 00:33:34.759 --> 00:33:37.000 Oh. I did arkasil Joe, and I had to hear it to 537 00:33:37.079 --> 00:33:39.799 New York because I had a big event, a big sex exhibition in New 538 00:33:39.880 --> 00:33:44.519 York, so I had to be there. And then the tour finished in 539 00:33:44.559 --> 00:33:46.480 New York, and then I had to leave Susie behind. She's and I'm 540 00:33:46.519 --> 00:33:50.359 shipping her here. So she's waiting for a spot on the ship, but 541 00:33:50.920 --> 00:33:52.920 all the ships are super congested, so in the moment, she's in New 542 00:33:53.000 --> 00:33:57.319 Jersey and a store unit, waiting to get on a ship. So I'm 543 00:33:57.359 --> 00:34:01.119 like, I was just wanting her here, um, And my initial plan 544 00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:06.880 had been to buy a field and put her in a field and there be 545 00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:10.639 and be her. But she just she creates so much joy to people. 546 00:34:12.159 --> 00:34:16.400 I am gonna tore her here and take her around the events. I was 547 00:34:16.440 --> 00:34:19.800 like, oh my god, by the time I get to New York, 548 00:34:19.840 --> 00:34:22.280 I'm going to be finished. I'll be filling filling Madison Square gardens. I'll 549 00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:24.840 be like the new Glen and Doyle. People were going to come and hear 550 00:34:24.880 --> 00:34:30.719 my wisdom and my wise words. It wasn't quite Madison Square Gardens, but 551 00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:37.440 the events were made. The events were amazing, But actually it was the 552 00:34:37.480 --> 00:34:40.159 people that I met, the individuals that I met, and the women that 553 00:34:40.280 --> 00:34:44.599 came knocking on my door. So I'd like roll into the RV park and 554 00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:47.440 of course I stand out like a saucer and everyone's in their gray white rbs 555 00:34:47.440 --> 00:34:51.559 and they hardly ever come out of them and they're all like and they're like, 556 00:34:51.679 --> 00:34:53.840 ah, who's that. So then of course they google me or look 557 00:34:53.880 --> 00:34:57.639 me up and go on Instagram. So then they come by. Then they 558 00:34:57.639 --> 00:35:00.239 either pretend that they haven't googled me when they blamed me, and we're like, 559 00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:05.440 oh, hi, you wasn't doing so we saw on Instagram, so 560 00:35:05.599 --> 00:35:07.280 like, you do know what I'm doing because it's so funny. But then 561 00:35:08.360 --> 00:35:12.280 there was all and men were quite funny. Men are like lightly birth, 562 00:35:12.440 --> 00:35:15.960 what years that then? And what is it? And I'm like nine bird 563 00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:17.719 under large. So men are like, oh, quite pressed, okay, 564 00:35:19.199 --> 00:35:22.119 and the women are like what are you doing? And I'm like, well, 565 00:35:22.159 --> 00:35:25.239 I'm just driving around America trying to empower women find their confidence in middle 566 00:35:25.280 --> 00:35:29.360 age. I've just left my husband. So all the husbands are like, 567 00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:32.199 right, maybe away I stopped talking to her now, Yeah exactly. I 568 00:35:32.320 --> 00:35:37.039 have the same same situation with a lot of my friends and their husbands. 569 00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:39.800 I'm like, your husbands are gonna hate me because I'm gonna just I'm just 570 00:35:39.800 --> 00:35:45.960 gonna constantly empower you to do your to do you and be confident and have 571 00:35:45.159 --> 00:35:51.039 fun. And husbands usually they either love me or they're like a man into 572 00:35:51.079 --> 00:35:55.960 this. I'm going to say, were all more about you than may anyway, 573 00:35:57.239 --> 00:36:00.440 So the um but the women that came knocking on my door, and 574 00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:06.079 the thing was a lot of this is not on Instagram because a I didn't 575 00:36:06.119 --> 00:36:08.639 anticipate this happening, but I ended up like a rosing agg in the aunt 576 00:36:08.800 --> 00:36:14.360 and I honestly, I could still be driving and I would pull into the 577 00:36:14.440 --> 00:36:17.519 RV park. Sometimes it would take an hour or two, but after it 578 00:36:17.559 --> 00:36:24.480 didn't take that long when women would just knock on the door and and come 579 00:36:24.519 --> 00:36:29.000 looking for help and Ausbie and I had a woman who'd been beaten up by 580 00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:31.800 her husband was sitting on my doorstep when I came home from a night out. 581 00:36:31.840 --> 00:36:35.000 She ended up staying with me for a couple of days till we could 582 00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:39.480 get her into a shelter. I had women who had just so I met 583 00:36:39.519 --> 00:36:44.320 so many when who've lost their homes and their jobs from you know, through 584 00:36:44.639 --> 00:36:51.840 pandemics, through violence, through fucking healthcare system and through violence, just living 585 00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:55.119 in their RVs and these parks in the middle of nowhere. You know, 586 00:36:55.239 --> 00:37:01.360 some ice, some who just basically I met one woman who's her boyfriend basically 587 00:37:01.400 --> 00:37:06.000 just has isolated her from her family and now got her pretty much health costage 588 00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:09.639 and in her in her RV. I went to one RV park. Three 589 00:37:09.679 --> 00:37:14.800 women alone just had no healthcare. They're just basically dyeing cancer in their in 590 00:37:14.840 --> 00:37:19.719 their RVs, um no healthcare, no no access to any care, and 591 00:37:19.760 --> 00:37:24.360 just susting there quietly, just waiting for their time to calm um. So 592 00:37:24.400 --> 00:37:29.400 I helped some along the way. I set up a few women's groups some 593 00:37:29.440 --> 00:37:34.199 of the RV parks. The women. There was one particular little in Arkansas. 594 00:37:34.239 --> 00:37:37.039 The camp site manager was super lovely, and she just bought a bunch 595 00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:39.800 of steps, you know, the old aerobic steps. She managed to shoot 596 00:37:39.800 --> 00:37:43.639 down a gym it's closing down, and she bought a bunch. She went. 597 00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:45.480 I thought, I throw some classes some of the women, and I 598 00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:49.800 was like, that's a bloody brilliant idea, and so and I helped her 599 00:37:49.800 --> 00:37:52.079 set up a women's group. I was, you know, and so now 600 00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:54.760 you know that some of them are cooking for the ones who've got cancer, 601 00:37:54.920 --> 00:38:00.199 and um, you know, they just found some connection. Um, even 602 00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:02.159 though they've been living next door to each other for quite a while, I 603 00:38:02.280 --> 00:38:05.719 managed to sort of, you know, get them out of the bands and 604 00:38:05.840 --> 00:38:09.400 to meet each other. And um, it was just and I can't. 605 00:38:09.559 --> 00:38:12.760 I didn't want to talk about that while I was on the tour because I 606 00:38:12.760 --> 00:38:15.920 was like, if I'm sitting on Instagram blathering about this, you know it's 607 00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:17.960 going to stop another woman when they do google me to see what I'm doing. 608 00:38:17.960 --> 00:38:21.440 I'm not going to come knocking on my door. They'd see me blathering 609 00:38:21.480 --> 00:38:23.840 on about the last camp site I was in, so I sort of, 610 00:38:24.719 --> 00:38:28.719 you know, I needed to respect their privacy. And I also it was 611 00:38:28.800 --> 00:38:31.000 very intense for me. You know, I'd just driven when I left Portland, 612 00:38:31.039 --> 00:38:34.679 I was driving away from my husband, although we separated actually two years 613 00:38:34.719 --> 00:38:39.840 before I left. Leaving physically leaving at Portland was incredibly difficult because I had 614 00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:44.920 made a really beautiful life for myself. You know, he was literally standing 615 00:38:44.920 --> 00:38:50.280 on the side of the road going by then, and I'm like, God, 616 00:38:50.360 --> 00:38:52.719 it was all that was a long drive that day, wearing different poland 617 00:38:52.719 --> 00:38:55.440 to drive away. You know, and then getting ready for the tours. 618 00:38:55.480 --> 00:39:00.000 Of of course, I was so excited and he was like, oh, 619 00:39:00.039 --> 00:39:01.880 you know, most women when they leave their husbands, like I don't know, 620 00:39:01.920 --> 00:39:05.840 they have an affair of fuck offle they get caught grab suitcase. There's 621 00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:10.360 a big argument. We had it on the calendar, mom leave, Mom's 622 00:39:10.440 --> 00:39:14.800 leaving in two months, you know, if they countdown to me leaving and 623 00:39:14.840 --> 00:39:17.760 everyone's like he excited, and I'm like, yes, no, well no, 624 00:39:19.239 --> 00:39:23.159 it was really difficult. Um, what's the question? Answer your question? 625 00:39:27.400 --> 00:39:30.000 Is it? I expected nothing less? I told him ahead of time. 626 00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:31.360 I was like, this is gonna be incredible because if there's one thing 627 00:39:31.360 --> 00:39:37.400 I've learned about lou Is, she's the best talker and she is just gonna 628 00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:52.039 carry this conversation. Hey, beautiful bitches, have you heard of our Patreon 629 00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:54.559 yet? 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Join our Patreon, join the 635 00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:19.440 fun, and enjoy all the exclusive benefits to become a very important bitch. 636 00:40:29.239 --> 00:40:34.599 But part, a big part of your conversation is is menopause and uh me 637 00:40:34.880 --> 00:40:37.320 being twenty seven years old and having a mother who doesn't really talk to me. 638 00:40:38.079 --> 00:40:43.119 Tell myself and our and our listeners, you know what exactly is menopause? 639 00:40:43.239 --> 00:40:47.320 And what are those menopause myths that you're you know, trying to break. 640 00:40:49.679 --> 00:40:52.880 I mean, I think we just we direct getting old, it, 641 00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:58.000 don't we? But you know, and I don't know why now now I'm 642 00:40:58.280 --> 00:41:00.199 mystified. I can't remember why I worried. I mean, obviously there's the 643 00:41:00.199 --> 00:41:04.719 obvious things. You know, the skin's not what it was. Um. 644 00:41:05.199 --> 00:41:07.559 You know, when things are, you know, things are trickier to keep 645 00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:12.880 in check. Um. Menopause is based just it can that it can be 646 00:41:12.880 --> 00:41:15.599 what life's what you make it, right. All the cliches the cliches for 647 00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:20.199 a reason. And I think, I don't know, it's for years it's 648 00:41:20.199 --> 00:41:22.280 been midlife crime. You know, men all call it a midlife crisis. 649 00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:25.159 And I think that's because all the women are getting stronger and more powerful, 650 00:41:25.159 --> 00:41:29.559 and men are freaking out because they all do. But you know, when 651 00:41:29.559 --> 00:41:31.519 you hit me, I think you've had child, particularly children's You know, 652 00:41:32.719 --> 00:41:37.519 lots of people now choose not to or are able to have children so much. 653 00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:39.960 But it's usually a period of time when you sort of hit the menopause 654 00:41:40.039 --> 00:41:45.559 or perimenopause can be sort of late forties, early fifties. It's generally when 655 00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:47.440 your kids are starting to get a little bit older and more independent, probably 656 00:41:47.480 --> 00:41:52.199 flying the nest a little bit. Um. It's slightly different now because women 657 00:41:52.280 --> 00:41:55.719 having children a bit later or not at all, but you know that's certainly 658 00:41:55.840 --> 00:42:00.719 another thing. Now. You know, Oscar is starting to leave home and 659 00:42:00.760 --> 00:42:02.320 look to leave home and build his life, and you've kind of done that 660 00:42:02.480 --> 00:42:06.199 part of what you know, you've done that job as a mum or whatever, 661 00:42:06.880 --> 00:42:09.639 and then you're sort of looking around going right, okay, what's next. 662 00:42:09.679 --> 00:42:13.199 Well, you know, I looking at your husband on the sofia, 663 00:42:13.239 --> 00:42:15.679 going, oh, Fox, just the two of us forever, like we're 664 00:42:15.719 --> 00:42:20.960 going to do now. But menopause, I don't know. So many women 665 00:42:21.000 --> 00:42:28.920 have different experiences like periods, right Solockmen have chronic chronic PMT PMS, you 666 00:42:28.960 --> 00:42:32.199 know, bleed terribly, are so grouchy, you know, put them in 667 00:42:32.239 --> 00:42:37.480 bed for days on end with a migraine. You know, it's pretty horrendous 668 00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:40.199 for a lot of can be a horrendous for a lot of women. Menopause 669 00:42:40.239 --> 00:42:44.280 can be the same. You know, it's your hormones are all over the 670 00:42:44.320 --> 00:42:46.800 shop. It's like PMS every day. I know, my friend she talks 671 00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:51.639 that she's got some great stories her mum. She remembers her mom having terrible 672 00:42:51.719 --> 00:42:54.639 rages, just throwing She threw a jar of jam at her once and hit 673 00:42:54.679 --> 00:42:58.320 the kitchen all and it's you know, it's a real memory for her. 674 00:42:58.559 --> 00:43:00.840 Unfortunately, my mom got outside so I couldn't ask her about her menopause. 675 00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:04.519 I don't remember. I know, I remember that I remember it being a 676 00:43:04.639 --> 00:43:08.840 thing and her going on hrtum And here, particularly in the UK, the 677 00:43:08.960 --> 00:43:14.880 conversation so much further ahead about it, Like there's now workplace schemes where women 678 00:43:14.880 --> 00:43:19.559 are getting time off work for menopause symptoms. It's considered you know, yeah, 679 00:43:19.599 --> 00:43:22.840 so it's considered you know the same as maternity. Um, you know 680 00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:28.920 that you can take time out because you know it can it bugs up, 681 00:43:28.920 --> 00:43:31.679 your hormones. Weight, there's a big issue for a lot of women. 682 00:43:31.760 --> 00:43:36.159 Women. You know, to start to find you cling onto it a lot 683 00:43:36.199 --> 00:43:40.400 more than you used to. You know, um, your body slows down 684 00:43:40.440 --> 00:43:45.000 a lot. So you know, I've really kept my fitness up, and 685 00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:47.000 the last few months I haven't because I've been on tour and I just couldn't 686 00:43:47.079 --> 00:43:50.840 couldn't keep up the leavel of fitness that I did have when I was in 687 00:43:50.880 --> 00:43:52.840 a routine at home and I've just been hiking with a friend and like, 688 00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:57.360 my knees, my knees coming down the hill were like creaking. I'm like, 689 00:43:57.719 --> 00:44:00.920 this is not okay. I am not. I can't live like this. 690 00:44:00.039 --> 00:44:04.440 I've got to get back to the level of fitness that I was because 691 00:44:04.519 --> 00:44:07.559 you know, it is just things are just a bit more of a struggle. 692 00:44:07.320 --> 00:44:12.000 Um. But you know people think, oh, he vagina gets a 693 00:44:12.000 --> 00:44:15.960 bit dry. Uh, you know, in sex can go a bit wonky 694 00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:22.159 donkey, but the periods are finished hello anymore. It's funny, brilliant also, 695 00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:24.599 that's what looms more. Um, And I found I got a hornia 696 00:44:24.719 --> 00:44:28.920 like with my confidence grow and I think and I'm like, it's you know, 697 00:44:29.000 --> 00:44:30.280 I'm like, fuck, yeah, I was fucking great for fifty who 698 00:44:31.039 --> 00:44:34.840 people don't want to bang me? Um, I'm just gonna get to find 699 00:44:34.880 --> 00:44:37.599 that person. But I'm sugure out there somewhere. Um. So I've actually 700 00:44:37.639 --> 00:44:44.880 found myself hornia um and sexier with a metaphorse. Um So, yeah, 701 00:44:44.920 --> 00:44:47.400 I don't know, it's it's a tricky it's a tricky journey for some women. 702 00:44:47.639 --> 00:44:53.039 I've I've just found keeping a positive mindset has always been as how I 703 00:44:53.119 --> 00:44:55.480 was trained. I was lucky with Mum. She was you know, mum, 704 00:44:55.519 --> 00:45:00.840 and Dad was super positive. Mum in particular was very POSSI satively minded. 705 00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:04.239 And I think you know it's up to you, isn't it. How 706 00:45:04.440 --> 00:45:07.159 you You've always got two choices in life how you want to approach something. 707 00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:13.960 And I just women, I think sometimes fine, finely difficult to keep positive 708 00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:17.280 mindset. Busy, bog down with the kids and you know, life and 709 00:45:17.360 --> 00:45:22.480 work and it's all going to make time for yourself, particularly if you've got 710 00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:30.239 the kids around. Busy jobs and life kind of changes change. I mean, 711 00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:32.280 change can be great and brilliant if you want to make it that way, 712 00:45:32.360 --> 00:45:35.559 or it can be really scary and daunting, So it's kind of up 713 00:45:35.599 --> 00:45:37.599 to you which way you want to play it, really, isn't it. 714 00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:42.960 Yeah. I love that you're like showing people how amazing like it can be 715 00:45:43.000 --> 00:45:45.239 getting older. I think, like in my mind, in the zeitgeist, 716 00:45:45.280 --> 00:45:51.000 menopause has always been like portrayed as this like it's the end of a woman's 717 00:45:51.039 --> 00:45:54.239 like fun life and oh now like your past, your sexual crime, and 718 00:45:54.400 --> 00:45:59.039 like it's portrayed as this very horrifying things. So I love it you like 719 00:45:59.400 --> 00:46:01.880 you saying it is what you make it, like if you're confident, if 720 00:46:01.920 --> 00:46:05.639 you're able to like build that yourself up like that, like it can be 721 00:46:05.679 --> 00:46:07.800 a fucking great time because you're right, you don't have to worry about getting 722 00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:13.239 pregnant, you don't have to like have periods. We live in two twenty 723 00:46:13.239 --> 00:46:15.360 two, like I think, and I think that's just something that we go 724 00:46:15.480 --> 00:46:19.719 through often in regards to like marriage, was like that, Like, Yeah, 725 00:46:19.719 --> 00:46:21.880 my mom told me I thought you were going to be the CEO of 726 00:46:21.920 --> 00:46:24.159 a company one day when I told her that I was engaged, and I 727 00:46:24.199 --> 00:46:28.599 was like, uh, two can exist. I was like, Mom, 728 00:46:28.639 --> 00:46:32.679 do you realize there are there are married female CEOs um out there in the 729 00:46:32.679 --> 00:46:35.679 world. She's like, yeah, but I don't think they're on their first 730 00:46:35.679 --> 00:46:38.760 marriage, and I'm like, neither are you. It like, so, 731 00:46:38.880 --> 00:46:43.880 there's just there's this thing that when it comes to certain things in women's lives, 732 00:46:43.920 --> 00:46:46.400 it's always looked at as like it's the end of something great. You're 733 00:46:46.440 --> 00:46:49.840 getting married, at the end of your single life, you're gonna be miserable. 734 00:46:49.920 --> 00:46:52.559 Oh, you're you're pregnant, You're having baby. That's the end of 735 00:46:52.599 --> 00:46:54.000 your fun times. Now you're you have a kid and you have nothing to 736 00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:58.679 look forward to in life. It's just this ongoing thing of trying to put 737 00:46:58.760 --> 00:47:04.639 us down about narrow things in life happening, and it's baffling to me. 738 00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:07.320 It's baffling, right, And the funny I mean, I think the funniest 739 00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:10.400 thing is that makes me laugh, Like, you know, we are just 740 00:47:10.639 --> 00:47:17.239 women are genetically we're designed to accommodate somebody else. Our bodies are from eleven, 741 00:47:17.400 --> 00:47:21.880 eleven or twelve. We get a period to prepare ourselves to take care 742 00:47:21.920 --> 00:47:24.559 of somebody else. Are you're fucking kidding me? By the time they finished, 743 00:47:24.599 --> 00:47:28.480 you're like, yeah, okay, my turn, thanks very much. 744 00:47:28.639 --> 00:47:30.800 That was my time to shine it's not about anybody else. It doesn't have 745 00:47:30.800 --> 00:47:35.119 to be about anybody else. Now now it's my body, it's back to 746 00:47:35.199 --> 00:47:37.800 being mine. I'm going to take some control over it. But it does. 747 00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:42.599 Yeah, it's I don't know. I just it's so good you I 748 00:47:42.639 --> 00:47:45.800 can't even explain it. People keep going, women keep saying we just don't 749 00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:47.960 care. I'm like, if you hit fifty, and they're like yeah, 750 00:47:49.000 --> 00:47:52.880 and I'm like, I know, it just happens. You just you literally 751 00:47:52.880 --> 00:47:55.519 just give less bucks. It just starts to happen, and you're just, 752 00:47:55.639 --> 00:48:00.239 oh, you something in your mind switches from you know, i'm older, 753 00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:02.280 I'm getting agent, and then one day you're like, fuck, yeah, 754 00:48:02.360 --> 00:48:06.039 I'm great. You know, I look good. I'm fifty. I'm like 755 00:48:06.440 --> 00:48:09.159 this because I'm older. Like, I don't know, you've earned just strikes. 756 00:48:09.199 --> 00:48:14.239 I suppose, I don't know, but I just haven't found I've just 757 00:48:14.280 --> 00:48:19.400 found positivity out of it. Really, And you know, oh, I 758 00:48:19.440 --> 00:48:22.559 don't know. America just shy about talking about things. We don't have these 759 00:48:22.599 --> 00:48:27.360 conversations, you know, from sex education in school. I mean, how 760 00:48:27.440 --> 00:48:30.679 much what a different world it would be, and we could just talk about 761 00:48:30.679 --> 00:48:34.760 religions and we could talk about periods and we could make these conversations just like 762 00:48:35.400 --> 00:48:37.559 you know, top takes take the shame out of all these things and just 763 00:48:37.639 --> 00:48:43.719 have these conversations. But it's just why it's wild to me in America, 764 00:48:43.920 --> 00:48:46.599 Like yeah, like I've said sorry about three or four times, the conversations. 765 00:48:46.639 --> 00:48:52.639 Just there's a couple of celebrities here, big TV personalities who have gone 766 00:48:52.639 --> 00:48:54.320 between the menopause and talked about it a lot more publicly than it's made it. 767 00:48:54.360 --> 00:48:58.559 You know, it's bought it to the table. Everybody is very well 768 00:48:58.599 --> 00:49:02.639 aware, and she encourages everybody to go help. I also, women think 769 00:49:02.679 --> 00:49:06.880 they have to tough it out, you know, if you're really struggling or 770 00:49:06.880 --> 00:49:08.880 you're getting you know, lots of women get quite a lot of rage in 771 00:49:09.440 --> 00:49:14.679 pregnancy. There's you know the hot flushes and you know sometimes people don't get 772 00:49:14.679 --> 00:49:17.280 those at all, but you know, sometimes like PMT get, you can 773 00:49:17.320 --> 00:49:22.599 get quite a rage, and you know, women are scared or they tough 774 00:49:22.639 --> 00:49:24.079 it out because that's what we do. We just like get out with it. 775 00:49:24.559 --> 00:49:28.000 You know, I would shut up and put up with it. It's 776 00:49:28.000 --> 00:49:30.119 like you don't have to go and get some help, like get some HRT, 777 00:49:30.400 --> 00:49:35.079 get some you know, get your hormones balance. Um, you know, 778 00:49:35.440 --> 00:49:38.400 just ask for help. It's okay, it's not shameful. You know. 779 00:49:38.760 --> 00:49:43.119 We just surround the other thing to do with sex and the reproductive system, 780 00:49:43.159 --> 00:49:47.159 which it's all the shame. That's just shameful. That's shameful. It's 781 00:49:47.199 --> 00:49:51.239 like we're all over here just having periods and children, you know, with 782 00:49:51.360 --> 00:49:57.519 no informationigation or looked at with like this weird obligation or like you're a female, 783 00:49:57.559 --> 00:50:00.840 so when are you having kids? It's like y'all us to do something 784 00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:04.079 and not want to talk about what goes into it. Because I'm also a 785 00:50:05.559 --> 00:50:10.559 prenatal yoga instructor, so I am in the labor space and hearing all the 786 00:50:10.599 --> 00:50:16.760 different stories and all the different things that go into You're fine, but just 787 00:50:17.000 --> 00:50:21.719 just that alone. People don't want to talk about pregnancy and what all goes 788 00:50:21.719 --> 00:50:27.159 into that and postpartum, all the things that happen to a woman in regards 789 00:50:27.159 --> 00:50:31.000 to physically or emotionally. It's like they want the action but not all the 790 00:50:31.039 --> 00:50:35.039 work behind it, Like great, have a kid and all the other things 791 00:50:35.079 --> 00:50:37.960 that happen, like figure out on your own. It's very often well that's 792 00:50:37.960 --> 00:50:42.559 not going to create a happy mom. That's not going to create a happy 793 00:50:42.679 --> 00:50:45.840 child. If they're having to figure everything out on their own, especially after 794 00:50:45.880 --> 00:50:51.760 the fact and they do go into postpartum, it's we're not helping anybody, 795 00:50:52.079 --> 00:50:57.960 No, And I just I don't know. I remember really clearly, I 796 00:50:58.039 --> 00:51:01.559 really struggle to breath feed. I got mastitis a couple of times, and 797 00:51:01.599 --> 00:51:06.480 I've had such a tramatic words. I'm so determined I was going to breathe. 798 00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:09.400 It was so painful, and I was like, why did no one 799 00:51:09.480 --> 00:51:15.800 told me that this, like, like about I was doing it wrong. 800 00:51:15.840 --> 00:51:19.239 I thought I was failing. No one had said to me that really hurts. 801 00:51:19.360 --> 00:51:22.079 I was like, it's I've got to do it otherwise I'm a bad 802 00:51:22.159 --> 00:51:23.800 mum. I've got to get I must be doing it wrong because it hurts 803 00:51:23.840 --> 00:51:27.719 him much. Everyone says it's the most natural, beautiful thing, and I 804 00:51:27.719 --> 00:51:30.880 should be doing it to my child three and I was like, oh my 805 00:51:30.119 --> 00:51:35.000 god. And then you know, I had ended up actually having a general 806 00:51:35.039 --> 00:51:38.280 anesthetics the area a C section, so I was asleep my law school was 807 00:51:38.280 --> 00:51:42.519 born. So I literally wake up and this is giant, huge child's nine 808 00:51:42.519 --> 00:51:47.159 pounds eleven, these giant toddlers just there and I could not connect with him. 809 00:51:47.239 --> 00:51:51.159 I'm just like, where did you come from? You definitely mind like 810 00:51:51.440 --> 00:51:54.079 we I just the first two years for me, and people were just like 811 00:51:54.840 --> 00:51:59.599 all you've ever wanted. I'm like, is it though I don't like him 812 00:51:59.679 --> 00:52:05.119 that it's thoughtful? What about me? But I just sort of like just 813 00:52:05.280 --> 00:52:09.800 struggled quietly along for two years so measurable, and then kind of came out 814 00:52:09.840 --> 00:52:15.639 of it. And now when I even just make you know, every now 815 00:52:15.679 --> 00:52:16.480 and again, I'll do a post and I go, yeah, right, 816 00:52:16.519 --> 00:52:21.320 two years the postmable depression, Like those pictures of making I think I want 817 00:52:21.440 --> 00:52:22.480 to keep baby, and I look at them and I'm like, oh my 818 00:52:22.519 --> 00:52:25.800 god, I do not feel like I'm trying to look at that picture here 819 00:52:25.880 --> 00:52:30.960 and it makes me feel sick, you know, And my note makes all 820 00:52:30.039 --> 00:52:34.119 my family and friends feel sick because they had no idea either. I was 821 00:52:34.280 --> 00:52:37.800 sort of like literally hid it away. It was so ashamed that I love 822 00:52:37.880 --> 00:52:40.599 this kid. Yeah, it would be such a mind fact when you're when 823 00:52:40.599 --> 00:52:45.440 you have a full child and you're you're happy to have the child, but 824 00:52:45.519 --> 00:52:49.280 you're like a why why am I not more thrilled. Why every because I 825 00:52:49.360 --> 00:52:52.719 knew everybody just wants to talk about how rewarding it is, but nobody wants 826 00:52:52.760 --> 00:52:55.199 to talk about how struggling it can be. How sh Yeah, yeah, 827 00:52:55.360 --> 00:53:00.960 I want it's so hard and there's so many expectations on you. Even now 828 00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:02.840 what I do with the odd post, and I'll say about postnatal depression. 829 00:53:02.960 --> 00:53:07.719 My inbox goes, why, oh, I got me too, and so 830 00:53:07.760 --> 00:53:12.039 many women who had it and still don't. We're just acknowledging it now. 831 00:53:12.079 --> 00:53:15.760 And there kids like twenty twenty one, they went here. Yeah, you 832 00:53:15.800 --> 00:53:19.360 know, you don't want to scare people, of course, and lots of 833 00:53:19.360 --> 00:53:22.760 women do just naturally take to it all. They're very few and far between 834 00:53:22.880 --> 00:53:27.800 from my experience. Um, So I'm just I'm more to bring up the 835 00:53:27.800 --> 00:53:30.599 conversation. You know. I think that's why where I think I've come to 836 00:53:30.639 --> 00:53:35.000 the conclusion, that's why I wear the crazy outfits and where I decorated Susie 837 00:53:35.079 --> 00:53:37.679 the way I did on the outside. You know, it's because it starts 838 00:53:37.719 --> 00:53:42.360 conversations, and that's what I like having they and I like the difficult conversations 839 00:53:42.360 --> 00:53:44.960 with people that I don't agree with. And I met plenty of those on 840 00:53:44.960 --> 00:53:46.960 the tour, but they're fascinating because if we don't talk to people who we 841 00:53:46.960 --> 00:53:51.480 don't agree with, how do we learn anything. I'm like, why, 842 00:53:51.719 --> 00:53:59.679 why, why? Why do you believe that a woman shouldn't be able to 843 00:53:59.679 --> 00:54:01.920 having a borshit? Like why do you believe that? How have you got 844 00:54:01.920 --> 00:54:07.239 to that? Why? You know? And the number of conversations I had 845 00:54:07.239 --> 00:54:09.440 with people and they just go and I would say, for example, this 846 00:54:09.679 --> 00:54:14.960 couple in a pool and bagas she was trying to drag him away. We 847 00:54:15.159 --> 00:54:17.320 were everywhere at about five o'clock, everyone would go to the pool and have 848 00:54:17.360 --> 00:54:22.320 a drink sundown. It was kind of fun. And I'm in the pool, 849 00:54:22.360 --> 00:54:24.440 I'm chatting away to this couple. They seem very sweet and its ro 850 00:54:24.599 --> 00:54:29.920 versus Wade had just been overturned at that point, and she I said something 851 00:54:29.960 --> 00:54:30.760 and she said, and I said, well, of course, now the 852 00:54:30.760 --> 00:54:34.480 tours turned into them. You know, it's turned onto a bit of a 853 00:54:34.480 --> 00:54:38.719 mission as well with roversus way. And you're a you're a pro choice, 854 00:54:38.719 --> 00:54:42.280 are you? And I went, oh, your pro life and she said 855 00:54:42.360 --> 00:54:45.119 yes, and I went, oh, interesting, She went, those babies, 856 00:54:45.280 --> 00:54:47.280 those babies could be adopted, those couples all around the world that need 857 00:54:47.320 --> 00:54:52.440 to, you know, adopt children. And I and I and I said, 858 00:54:52.440 --> 00:54:53.800 well, I said, it's not that easy. I said, these 859 00:54:53.800 --> 00:54:58.280 are not all cute, sweet babies. Lots of these babies have been born 860 00:54:58.320 --> 00:55:01.599 out of trauma or drug addiction, or you know, aren't wanted. And 861 00:55:01.639 --> 00:55:05.360 I said, I don't know. I worked for social services for many years, 862 00:55:05.400 --> 00:55:09.440 and kids in calf and very low have a very low outcomes. You 863 00:55:09.480 --> 00:55:14.000 know, they rarely get to college they were even if they are adopted into 864 00:55:14.039 --> 00:55:16.679 loving families. If they've been born into an addict or something like, they 865 00:55:16.760 --> 00:55:22.239 have very low threshold of good outcome in life. And she went, stop 866 00:55:22.320 --> 00:55:24.599 talking to her, and she's trying to drag her husband away from me. 867 00:55:24.639 --> 00:55:27.639 And I think. She went, it's gonna end in a fight. And 868 00:55:27.679 --> 00:55:29.840 I went, it's not gonna end in a fight. I said, I 869 00:55:29.920 --> 00:55:34.239 just want to hear I'm interested in your opinion, because you know, I 870 00:55:34.320 --> 00:55:37.280 have my opinion of your opinion. But if we don't talk to each other 871 00:55:37.440 --> 00:55:40.039 and we don't understand each other, we're just gonna end up constantly hating each 872 00:55:40.039 --> 00:55:43.880 other. And just you dragging your husband away. I said, I'm just 873 00:55:44.039 --> 00:55:47.079 curious, you know, do you have sisters and daughters? And he was 874 00:55:47.119 --> 00:55:51.199 like, I have two sisters and we have a daughter, and the woman's 875 00:55:51.239 --> 00:55:53.440 going get away from her, get away from her, And I might just 876 00:55:53.559 --> 00:55:57.639 write out of the conversation with him, and I said, just to have 877 00:55:57.719 --> 00:56:00.119 curiosity. Then if either of them were raped, you know, on a 878 00:56:00.199 --> 00:56:05.519 real base level of ether of them were raped, would you truly expect and 879 00:56:06.000 --> 00:56:08.239 want to watch them have to go through a pregnancy and then go through the 880 00:56:08.280 --> 00:56:12.119 trauma of giving birth, and then go through the trauma of having to give 881 00:56:12.119 --> 00:56:14.960 that child up, and then what kind of life do you think that child's 882 00:56:14.960 --> 00:56:17.239 gonna have? And how is your sister or your daughter then continue their life? 883 00:56:19.760 --> 00:56:22.840 He went, I just never thought about it like that, And I'm 884 00:56:22.880 --> 00:56:25.599 like, what, how what do you think? How do you think them? 885 00:56:25.920 --> 00:56:30.360 It was fascinating to me. And I met some racist lesbians from Florida 886 00:56:30.440 --> 00:56:35.679 the same thing. They were very that's just a funny sentences. The whole 887 00:56:35.719 --> 00:56:39.679 thing racis was like, you know, we had a long conversation. They 888 00:56:39.719 --> 00:56:43.480 were mad about Kaepernick. They wanted to know what I thought about Kaepernick and 889 00:56:43.559 --> 00:56:45.519 I, you know, taking the knee, and it was round and we 890 00:56:45.519 --> 00:56:47.760 were. They invited me around the campfire and it was going quite well. 891 00:56:47.800 --> 00:56:52.400 I was like, my Florida, but they're lesbian. And then they suddenly 892 00:56:52.440 --> 00:56:59.239 said, well you think and I went probably incredible. Uh yeah, I 893 00:56:59.280 --> 00:57:04.280 mean one of the most powerful statements we see in our lifetime. And I 894 00:57:04.480 --> 00:57:06.760 just, you know, I applaud him. And they went while they're ripping, 895 00:57:06.760 --> 00:57:09.599 they're ripping down the statues. So I was like, yeah, but 896 00:57:09.920 --> 00:57:14.039 you are you proud of slavery? And they went, oh, no, 897 00:57:14.159 --> 00:57:16.000 of course, not that that you know. And then why would earth if 898 00:57:16.000 --> 00:57:22.840 you want to statue praising you know, plantation owners or slave owners. It's 899 00:57:22.880 --> 00:57:24.679 just bizarre to me. Why would you Why would you want that? If 900 00:57:24.719 --> 00:57:28.559 you genuinely think that slavery was a bad thing, why would you want a 901 00:57:28.599 --> 00:57:32.320 statue in honor of that, of that period of shameful history? Um? 902 00:57:32.960 --> 00:57:37.400 And they're like huh, I thought about it like that. And I'm like, 903 00:57:37.639 --> 00:57:42.039 well, i've let you know, not being funny, but as a 904 00:57:42.079 --> 00:57:45.880 minority group, and I would think in Florida, you too walk in holding 905 00:57:45.920 --> 00:57:49.079 hands or as a couple in Florida, you get pretty much judged. And 906 00:57:49.119 --> 00:57:52.519 there's another minority group, Um, you know, if anybody's got some sort 907 00:57:52.519 --> 00:57:55.920 of like affinity or understanding what it's like to be a person of color and 908 00:57:55.960 --> 00:58:00.440 be judged just by purely walking into a room and having people make judgments on 909 00:58:00.639 --> 00:58:04.880 I would have thought you were pretty close to being upto to sort of feel 910 00:58:04.920 --> 00:58:07.559 what that feels like. Huh. I never really thought about it like that, 911 00:58:08.400 --> 00:58:13.760 like how do you think that? Like? Where's your starting point? 912 00:58:13.800 --> 00:58:15.079 And then the more I thought about it, the more people I met who 913 00:58:15.079 --> 00:58:17.480 just went never thought about it like that, And I would, you know, 914 00:58:17.599 --> 00:58:21.760 just amazed the way I asked a question. I just realized, you 915 00:58:21.760 --> 00:58:22.559 know, my mum was always like, you know, if you have a 916 00:58:22.599 --> 00:58:25.800 disagreement with someone, the place you start is their shoes. You go, 917 00:58:27.119 --> 00:58:29.559 why are they like that? How are they like? Why are they being 918 00:58:29.599 --> 00:58:31.920 in asshole? And you put yourself in their shoes and you try and think, 919 00:58:32.239 --> 00:58:35.480 how have they got to this point? Why are they angry? Why 920 00:58:35.360 --> 00:58:37.639 they crossed? Why are you was? What's upsetting there? And you start 921 00:58:37.679 --> 00:58:42.199 from somebody else's shoes and and that's where you start when you've got a problem 922 00:58:42.199 --> 00:58:46.079 with somebody or something. And I'm not everybody was gifted a mom like that 923 00:58:46.280 --> 00:58:52.559 or gifted someone who showed them away like that. Um, and so I 924 00:58:52.599 --> 00:58:57.280 actually just thoroughly enjoyed meeting all these people. I completely disagree with it again, 925 00:58:57.280 --> 00:59:00.639 it was but I found I was like, why everything in America has 926 00:59:00.679 --> 00:59:02.920 to be it's this or it's that. There's nothing in the middle. And 927 00:59:02.920 --> 00:59:06.760 I like, unless I'm driving around in the US, people aren't going to 928 00:59:06.800 --> 00:59:08.119 meet in the middle. You know, it's going to be with this or 929 00:59:08.119 --> 00:59:12.440 with that. There's just no And I think people just find it hard to 930 00:59:12.480 --> 00:59:15.440 find information. Where do you go Fox or CNN, where's something in the 931 00:59:15.480 --> 00:59:20.880 middle. If you live in a tiny state without much compact, you haven't 932 00:59:20.960 --> 00:59:23.519 left the country, you've not barely left your state or your hometown. How 933 00:59:23.559 --> 00:59:27.840 do you find that information? There's no middle of the road information, and 934 00:59:27.840 --> 00:59:30.440 they should go looking for it. Our feeds, our Instagram, our Facebook, 935 00:59:30.440 --> 00:59:34.679 our social media or filled with people we agree with and we like and 936 00:59:34.800 --> 00:59:37.840 we get on you know, we are politically aligned with it. And someone 937 00:59:37.920 --> 00:59:40.760 upsets and still makes a racist comment everybody, you delete them because you don't 938 00:59:40.760 --> 00:59:43.519 want them in your feed, you're want anything to do with them, and 939 00:59:43.599 --> 00:59:45.679 raises you. And lots of times you have to do that because otherwise you 940 00:59:45.719 --> 00:59:49.960 go absolutely insane and you just can't just follow a bunch of races for the 941 00:59:50.000 --> 00:59:54.320 sake of it. But then they do the same, and then you just 942 00:59:54.320 --> 00:59:57.920 stay away from each other, and so there's no meeting. And then because 943 00:59:57.920 --> 01:00:01.079 we because our leaders are like, we don't leader, everyone's just obsessed with 944 01:00:01.119 --> 01:00:06.920 themselves. I don't know. It's just infuriating anyway, Sorry, it's okay. 945 01:00:07.119 --> 01:00:13.119 We talked about talking about well, we have plenty of episodes because with 946 01:00:13.199 --> 01:00:16.320 us living in Texas, we uh, we deal with a lot of these 947 01:00:16.360 --> 01:00:21.360 things firsthand. And like when the overturning of Robe Wed happened, we made 948 01:00:21.400 --> 01:00:24.159 an episode called a Bitch Slat to the Uterus UM. So we talk about 949 01:00:24.199 --> 01:00:30.280 these things often, um because we experienced them. And we just talked about 950 01:00:30.280 --> 01:00:36.440 how we just lost our our governor's race for someone we supported. So but 951 01:00:36.519 --> 01:00:38.119 they go hand in hand when it comes to our bodies, when it comes 952 01:00:38.119 --> 01:00:40.480 to sex, when it comes to menopause, and it comes to pregnancy, 953 01:00:40.800 --> 01:00:46.239 all of these different functionalities of having a woman. A woman's body is our 954 01:00:46.320 --> 01:00:51.840 global owner's body is um. It's constantly attacked. We're not in a place 955 01:00:51.880 --> 01:00:58.760 where all these things are spoken about or understood you're talking about menopause leave, 956 01:00:58.800 --> 01:01:02.519 Like that's incredible. I I'm excited for the day when specifically in Texas as 957 01:01:02.559 --> 01:01:08.199 well, where maternity leave can last longer than six weeks, like there's there's 958 01:01:08.280 --> 01:01:13.480 so much or the fact when they will get paternity leave, like as men 959 01:01:13.559 --> 01:01:17.000 need to be there as well, so they These conversations are hard, but 960 01:01:17.159 --> 01:01:21.840 they're worth having and they all lead into something. And if we can't have 961 01:01:21.920 --> 01:01:25.119 the conversations, you know, like you mentioned that just talking to someone getting 962 01:01:25.159 --> 01:01:28.719 to know someone in a pool in Vegas, how are we going to have 963 01:01:28.800 --> 01:01:31.400 these conversations with our kids? How are we going to have the conversations in 964 01:01:31.519 --> 01:01:36.199 schools, let alone government? So it all stems from being able to just 965 01:01:36.239 --> 01:01:38.760 talk to one another in an understanding way, trying to understand and relate and 966 01:01:38.840 --> 01:01:44.360 come to a conclusion together. We can't do that in a high end way 967 01:01:44.400 --> 01:01:49.599 if we can't do it just amongst peers, right, And I think I 968 01:01:49.840 --> 01:01:53.199 was when I got to off the So I mean I remember really clearly when 969 01:01:53.199 --> 01:01:58.519 I crossed the Texas border. I was making a video because before the night 970 01:01:58.559 --> 01:02:02.159 before, because I was really scared, and I drove through and there's a 971 01:02:02.199 --> 01:02:05.880 checkpoint. There's quite a big checkpoint in which I didn't know there was. 972 01:02:05.920 --> 01:02:08.559 And I was laughing earlier about the vibrators and the gin and the edibles. 973 01:02:09.079 --> 01:02:15.519 Um I called a complete white privilege card as I drove through this through. 974 01:02:15.639 --> 01:02:17.199 As I drove through the thing, and they were all there, the dogs 975 01:02:17.199 --> 01:02:22.480 were snarling, and the board of patrol guys were like super scary, and 976 01:02:22.519 --> 01:02:27.239 there was like two African Americans bent over the bloody car Trump being searched, 977 01:02:27.719 --> 01:02:31.599 and you know, I guide through like white British h God, don't come 978 01:02:31.719 --> 01:02:36.159 forward. I got loads of edibles and you know, la la la, 979 01:02:36.400 --> 01:02:38.760 And as I drove I felt so ashamed of myself. I cried because I 980 01:02:38.800 --> 01:02:43.400 was scared that text, you know, people were not going to receive me 981 01:02:43.480 --> 01:02:45.960 well, and I was scared that, you know, I was going to 982 01:02:45.000 --> 01:02:50.320 get sharp. And then I felt so ashamed of myself pulled this complete white 983 01:02:50.320 --> 01:02:52.119 privilege card. I was like, they take they were taking pictures of me 984 01:02:52.159 --> 01:02:55.360 as I went through the don't taking pictures and it's like going through the board 985 01:02:55.360 --> 01:03:00.519 of thing and I'm just like, I'm so ashamed of my album. Then 986 01:03:00.639 --> 01:03:04.480 that whole drive I drove along the border, and I was a bit I 987 01:03:04.519 --> 01:03:07.239 don't know, I felt anxious that I think I just I've been watching too 988 01:03:07.320 --> 01:03:09.559 much TV. And in the South it was all like, you know, 989 01:03:09.599 --> 01:03:13.079 they're getting over the wall. We need the wall. With the wall, 990 01:03:13.159 --> 01:03:15.559 I'm like, what's going to happen. I'm gonna get rushed by a bunch 991 01:03:15.599 --> 01:03:19.360 of Mexican immigrants trying to get you know. And then instead I had to 992 01:03:19.480 --> 01:03:22.599 drive. I drove along the border in one hundred and twenty degree heat, 993 01:03:22.920 --> 01:03:28.119 moaning when I didn't have an air conditioning along the route where people just trying 994 01:03:28.119 --> 01:03:30.519 to get to a better life. I never felt so ashamed of myself. 995 01:03:30.559 --> 01:03:35.519 I literally sat in my own shame for about three or four days. And 996 01:03:35.559 --> 01:03:40.679 then and then I started to hit more busier towns and started to meet people. 997 01:03:42.039 --> 01:03:45.000 And then when I got to Austin, I met started to meet some 998 01:03:45.119 --> 01:03:46.599 relay people and I was like, how do you live here? Though? 999 01:03:46.719 --> 01:03:50.760 Like it's just so in turns and they're like, Noah, this is where 1000 01:03:50.760 --> 01:03:54.079 we have to be. We you know, I have both counts like here 1001 01:03:54.199 --> 01:03:58.760 it's with is where you come to fight? And I realized it's sitting in 1002 01:03:58.920 --> 01:04:02.639 you know, liberal Oregon and surrounded by like minded people, and actually that's 1003 01:04:02.679 --> 01:04:08.079 not where the fight happens. The fight happens in these places and these people 1004 01:04:08.079 --> 01:04:11.039 I met, I was like mind blown. I was like, fuck, 1005 01:04:11.159 --> 01:04:15.239 yes, this you people are the people who are leading the way. So 1006 01:04:15.280 --> 01:04:18.440 yeah, I do. I mean, I think I just my head on 1007 01:04:18.440 --> 01:04:21.920 that tour. I'm still kind of recovering from that. It's nice to talk 1008 01:04:21.920 --> 01:04:25.239 about it, actually, because they've been so intense, sort of like coming 1009 01:04:25.280 --> 01:04:30.119 back in China, you know, a similar acclimator, and here I'm having 1010 01:04:30.159 --> 01:04:33.320 complete like reverse culture shock coming back to my own country. I like, 1011 01:04:33.559 --> 01:04:36.719 it's so wild, and then I find myselfing, well that was better in 1012 01:04:36.760 --> 01:04:40.639 America. Well that's better here, and like you completely fuck yourself when you 1013 01:04:40.679 --> 01:04:43.559 move abroad, because then you don't belong anywhere. Like I've never really you 1014 01:04:43.599 --> 01:04:46.280 know, and it ever belong quiet there, and now I don't believe it. 1015 01:04:46.360 --> 01:04:49.039 And now I'm not sure I still believe believe belong here. I'm like, 1016 01:04:49.119 --> 01:04:51.519 I just I've learned so much and I know so much, and I'm 1017 01:04:51.559 --> 01:04:56.199 like, should I stay in America and keep fighting and doing what I do 1018 01:04:56.280 --> 01:04:59.159 that? You know? I don't. I just don't know. It's really 1019 01:04:59.239 --> 01:05:01.519 nice to talk about a tour and reflect back. So thank you. Yeah, 1020 01:05:01.719 --> 01:05:05.480 of course I can't wait to see you doing the tour in the UK 1021 01:05:05.639 --> 01:05:11.119 and maybe coming back one day as well, because because it is it is 1022 01:05:11.239 --> 01:05:14.519 very important to have the conversations here. It's just it's so stuffy and it's 1023 01:05:14.559 --> 01:05:17.039 so it's so frustrating. I think we're getting to a good place though, 1024 01:05:17.159 --> 01:05:23.480 where people are being raised to be more open and to have conversations and look 1025 01:05:23.480 --> 01:05:27.840 at things in that gray area. But that was the biggest pushback we got 1026 01:05:28.159 --> 01:05:30.760 from that episode was people reaching out saying that why why don't you just move? 1027 01:05:31.159 --> 01:05:33.960 You should just move? Well, do you know how expensive for whatnot? 1028 01:05:34.000 --> 01:05:40.519 Everyone has resources to just up and move to a completely different Yeah, 1029 01:05:40.800 --> 01:05:44.400 well yeah, that's kind of like we've thought, don't have resources? Yeah, 1030 01:05:44.480 --> 01:05:46.000 go ahead, And we've talked about this before, Like I was born 1031 01:05:46.039 --> 01:05:48.840 and raised here, Like I'm not gonna just like give up on my home 1032 01:05:48.880 --> 01:05:53.199 state. Like as much as problematic it is, like I am a very 1033 01:05:53.280 --> 01:05:57.199 like proud text and then I love like where I live and I want to 1034 01:05:57.280 --> 01:06:00.440 like be part of making it a better place for everyone to be at. 1035 01:06:00.519 --> 01:06:02.880 So yeah, I never you know, even the fights here. Like you 1036 01:06:02.920 --> 01:06:05.800 said, this is where we need to make a difference. The differences are 1037 01:06:05.800 --> 01:06:11.679 already being made in these other states where they have choice, they have weed, 1038 01:06:11.960 --> 01:06:15.320 they have all the good things. Like we can't contribute what we're trying 1039 01:06:15.360 --> 01:06:20.519 to contribute there. Um, like having just sex conversations. Um. We 1040 01:06:20.800 --> 01:06:25.079 always laugh because it's really hard being in Texas, let alone in the US 1041 01:06:25.199 --> 01:06:29.400 where we have stupid presidents and stupid people. But as soon as we leave 1042 01:06:29.480 --> 01:06:33.159 Texas or we leave the US, or like these colors still rent blue USA, 1043 01:06:33.480 --> 01:06:41.800 like we're so proud. It's so bad. It infuriates me because America, 1044 01:06:41.880 --> 01:06:45.719 you know, everyone that's part of you know, everybody sees this or 1045 01:06:45.800 --> 01:06:47.400 that, right, so they all see the crump and it's so you know, 1046 01:06:47.719 --> 01:06:51.960 and everybody has this vision of America and it's not it's not the experience 1047 01:06:53.039 --> 01:06:55.800 I've had, you know, everywhere of being leaving the people I did in 1048 01:06:55.880 --> 01:07:01.119 greeting the racist lesbian incredibly generous and kind and uplifting, positive and supportive and 1049 01:07:01.280 --> 01:07:06.119 like welcoming and like I have women chasing me down giving me crystals for my 1050 01:07:06.239 --> 01:07:13.280 journey and I don't know it. I just I am most insane kind people 1051 01:07:13.480 --> 01:07:16.599 on my on my journey, and it infuriates me the rap that America gets 1052 01:07:16.599 --> 01:07:20.039 because it's just like, it's just it's so, it's so the extremes. 1053 01:07:20.119 --> 01:07:23.239 It's like I was saying, it's this, or it's that, it's black 1054 01:07:23.320 --> 01:07:25.159 or it's white. It's gotta be this, it's gotta be red, it's 1055 01:07:25.159 --> 01:07:29.920 gotta be blue. It's like, where's the bit in the middle and the 1056 01:07:30.440 --> 01:07:32.559 you know, the whole don't even go to starting political system. Remember, 1057 01:07:32.599 --> 01:07:35.599 don't have the answers in Britains. And everyone said miserable here. I'm like, 1058 01:07:35.639 --> 01:07:38.920 oh god, Everyone's well, what do you miss the most? And 1059 01:07:38.960 --> 01:07:42.880 I'm like, I miss uplifted, Like I missed the positivity of America and 1060 01:07:42.920 --> 01:07:45.880 Americans. You know. Everybody's like, if you come up with a business 1061 01:07:45.960 --> 01:07:48.320 idea here, this is how. I use this example quite a lot of 1062 01:07:48.360 --> 01:07:53.480 my talk that idea sometimes, and I'll go, I'll tell you what the 1063 01:07:53.480 --> 01:07:57.000 difference is between America and Britain. So you've come up with a really ludicrous 1064 01:07:57.039 --> 01:08:00.599 business plan and I come up, we say, a three legged pink lama 1065 01:08:00.599 --> 01:08:03.559 farm. Because it's the most stupid thing I could ever think of. If 1066 01:08:03.559 --> 01:08:06.480 you said to people in Britain in the pub. You know, I'm thinking 1067 01:08:06.480 --> 01:08:10.880 I might open the three legged pink Lama farm. British people will go, 1068 01:08:10.920 --> 01:08:14.119 well, I can tell you ten reasons why that won't work. And if 1069 01:08:14.119 --> 01:08:16.119 you say it to Americans, they go, oh my god, that's the 1070 01:08:16.199 --> 01:08:19.399 best idea I've ever heard. You must talk to my uncle Bob. He 1071 01:08:19.439 --> 01:08:25.000 has a lama cousin, Sheila, she owns a pink lama. And they 1072 01:08:25.119 --> 01:08:28.039 give you have some money, how can I invest in you? What can 1073 01:08:28.079 --> 01:08:30.840 I do for you? And uh, yeah, it's night and day, 1074 01:08:31.000 --> 01:08:35.159 chalk and cheese. It ships. It's so as such a gift to do. 1075 01:08:35.279 --> 01:08:39.199 We did see both sides. It's just wild to me. I don't 1076 01:08:39.239 --> 01:08:43.760 know what to do with all this information yet selves the world. I am 1077 01:08:43.960 --> 01:08:46.560 all world problems. But yeah, it's fascinating. It's so fascinating. I 1078 01:08:46.600 --> 01:08:50.640 had no idea. Our cultures are so different where I move so naive. 1079 01:08:50.840 --> 01:08:55.880 Now. I've been to the UK once when I was twelve or thirteen. 1080 01:08:56.000 --> 01:09:00.119 My uncle lived in Scotland for years, so I've been to Scotland and then 1081 01:09:00.159 --> 01:09:03.119 we were in London for a while and I think that was the biggest, 1082 01:09:03.960 --> 01:09:09.239 the biggest takeaway that I had was As I'm walking around, I'm like, 1083 01:09:09.439 --> 01:09:16.960 man, no one seems happy to be here. Yeah, And in Texas 1084 01:09:16.960 --> 01:09:20.840 were like, wow, it's only seventy two degrees today, what a win, 1085 01:09:21.159 --> 01:09:27.079 Like we're all excited about the weather not being hot. Garbage. Um, 1086 01:09:27.359 --> 01:09:30.079 but you're not wrong. There's I think, especially here in the South, 1087 01:09:30.079 --> 01:09:31.760 because we had our first experience going to the East Coast. We had 1088 01:09:31.800 --> 01:09:34.560 never been. Oh, I hadn't been. He went when he was younger. 1089 01:09:34.600 --> 01:09:38.079 I'd never been to Boston. So we went to Boston in August, 1090 01:09:38.560 --> 01:09:43.560 and um specifically for a Lady Gaga concert because I go to every tour and 1091 01:09:43.640 --> 01:09:45.800 we always dress we always dress up, and at that time, she didn't 1092 01:09:45.800 --> 01:09:48.960 have a Texas date. So we were like, I said, Chicago or 1093 01:09:49.000 --> 01:09:53.279 Boston because I've never been to those places, and so I bring my like 1094 01:09:53.439 --> 01:09:58.119 purple bondage outfit. My ass, cheeks are out on the tree, and 1095 01:09:58.399 --> 01:10:00.960 no one is dressed up. I was like, everyone's going to be dressed 1096 01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:03.000 up when we get to Fenway Park. As silly as I feel right now, 1097 01:10:03.119 --> 01:10:05.319 like nobody was dressed up, and I'm like, y'all have all of 1098 01:10:05.359 --> 01:10:10.960 your rights here, and it shows like We're out here, full full drag, 1099 01:10:11.079 --> 01:10:14.479 full ass cheeks and titties out whenever we have the opportunity, because in 1100 01:10:14.479 --> 01:10:18.039 Texas we're fighting for our lives and we're like, we're gonna be ourselves even 1101 01:10:18.039 --> 01:10:24.159 if it kills us. The biggest difference, at least in the States, 1102 01:10:24.840 --> 01:10:30.439 um is we have so much personality down south because we've been so suppressed, 1103 01:10:30.560 --> 01:10:33.079 and so we're like, no, we're proud, we're gonna dress up, 1104 01:10:33.359 --> 01:10:36.640 we're gonna say what we want to say, We're gonna be positive and loving 1105 01:10:36.640 --> 01:10:42.880 to each other. Um. It can be a very positive place when we're 1106 01:10:42.880 --> 01:10:47.920 in an area that doesn't have all of our rights or parents that brought us 1107 01:10:48.000 --> 01:10:53.399 up to be ashamed of ourselves or our bodies or who we love. So 1108 01:10:53.560 --> 01:10:59.239 yeah, oh my god, see you're my people. Well, Lou, 1109 01:10:59.560 --> 01:11:01.000 I don't want to take up too much more of your time. But where 1110 01:11:01.039 --> 01:11:05.880 would you like people to find you? Oh? Well, I'm only on 1111 01:11:06.079 --> 01:11:11.720 Instagram, my website, my new shiny web. It's so nice. Um, 1112 01:11:13.239 --> 01:11:17.880 it's gonna be better when I pull my finger out, um and hopefully, 1113 01:11:17.880 --> 01:11:20.159 I don't know, we'll see what happens. I'm going to be running 1114 01:11:20.199 --> 01:11:24.640 some I'm going to continue the tour as soon as soon as he gets back, 1115 01:11:24.960 --> 01:11:28.840 I'm gonna launch adventures Love and Loveland Goes Wild. I think I'm going 1116 01:11:28.880 --> 01:11:33.880 to start taking people hiking in England, do some adventures, m start spreading 1117 01:11:33.880 --> 01:11:36.279 the love around here a little bit as well, trying to scheer them. 1118 01:11:36.319 --> 01:11:43.039 Motherfucker's up, seriously. The instagrams my main home. You can always find 1119 01:11:43.119 --> 01:11:45.359 my arms out well, yeah, it'll be in the description so everyone can 1120 01:11:45.439 --> 01:11:48.399 find you. Um yeah, I can't wait for us to go to the 1121 01:11:48.439 --> 01:11:51.880 UK and we'll find you there too, and go on out come and stay 1122 01:11:51.880 --> 01:11:57.439 in my spare room. Well, Lou, I hope you have a great 1123 01:11:57.560 --> 01:11:59.760 est of your Is it what time is it there? It's gonna be evening 1124 01:11:59.840 --> 01:12:02.199 right, there's a ten hour difference. It's ten past five and I'm taking 1125 01:12:02.199 --> 01:12:06.119 my son to see a Bob Marley. There's a musical about Bob Marley and 1126 01:12:06.199 --> 01:12:12.039 the West End. How cool that he's got a friend over from the US. 1127 01:12:12.199 --> 01:12:16.840 Is one of his friends Reportland came to visit to watch the World Cup. 1128 01:12:16.920 --> 01:12:21.439 They've been going to the pub to watch the walk. It's a very 1129 01:12:21.479 --> 01:12:27.000 cultural trip. So I'm dragging him at the West End to go and see 1130 01:12:27.000 --> 01:12:29.800 Bob Marley. I love it. I hope you guys have a blast and 1131 01:12:29.840 --> 01:12:33.479 I'll be in touch soon. All right, darling, let me school here. 1132 01:12:34.000 --> 01:12:36.920 Thanks so much for having me on YouTube. Bye, have a good 1133 01:12:36.960 --> 01:12:43.680 time. Bye. If you enjoy today's episode of baldu Bitches, be sure 1134 01:12:43.720 --> 01:12:46.439 to rate and subscribe wherever you listen to your podcast. To join in on 1135 01:12:46.479 --> 01:12:50.640 more of our conversations and fun, you can follow us on social media at 1136 01:12:50.640 --> 01:12:56.520 bottled Up Bitches on Instagram and bottled up Talk on Twitter and write in your 1137 01:12:56.560 --> 01:13:00.520 sexcapes anything you want to share with the team at bottled up Talk at gmail 1138 01:13:00.600 --> 01:13:04.880 dot com. Cover art football Edup Bitches is created by Winston Gambro. Episodes 1139 01:13:04.920 --> 01:13:09.840 are produced and edited by Rhanna Campbell and Adam Lewis. This has been a 1140 01:13:09.880 --> 01:13:12.720 Cricket Bunny production. Stay Horny Bitches,