WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:02.160 Today, I want to tell you about a journey that I've been on for 2 00:00:02.240 --> 00:00:05.120 most of my life. Ever since I was a kid, I've heard tales 3 00:00:05.120 --> 00:00:09.199 of bigfoot and wild men while spending time with my friends and family. As 4 00:00:09.240 --> 00:00:12.759 I grew older and read more about the paranormal, my interest in encryptids and 5 00:00:12.800 --> 00:00:17.039 other things strange only deepened. That's why I'm so excited to share with you 6 00:00:17.079 --> 00:00:22.960 what I've personally become involved with the Untold Radio Network. The Untold Radio Network 7 00:00:23.000 --> 00:00:27.480 is a live streaming podcast network that airs a new show every day across all 8 00:00:27.519 --> 00:00:31.839 podcast platforms, YouTube, and more. 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Can head over to the website, check it out, 25 00:01:56.439 --> 00:02:00.200 become a member there and help support the show. I got to sit down 26 00:02:00.280 --> 00:02:06.840 and talk to Jason from Washington, and Jason had quite a lengthy story to 27 00:02:06.920 --> 00:02:09.520 tell. He's had some really wild stuff going on. So I've made this 28 00:02:09.759 --> 00:02:14.680 two parts. This first part is about forty five minutes or so, and 29 00:02:14.719 --> 00:02:16.439 I will put out part two of this on Sunday, so make sure you 30 00:02:16.479 --> 00:02:20.520 show back up for that. If you haven't already done so, please head 31 00:02:20.520 --> 00:02:23.319 over to our website, Pandomworldproductions dot com. You can check out all the 32 00:02:23.319 --> 00:02:27.080 shows, check out the blogs, and you can pick up your very own 33 00:02:27.120 --> 00:02:30.360 copy of my brand new book, Sasquatch Unleashed The Truth behind the Legend. 34 00:02:30.479 --> 00:02:36.120 You can get personalized autographed copies right there directly from us. But enough of 35 00:02:36.120 --> 00:02:38.800 that. I know you guys are ready to get into it. Jason's on 36 00:02:38.840 --> 00:02:40.280 the line and he's ready to go. All that's left for you to do 37 00:02:40.400 --> 00:03:02.240 is sit back, relax, and enjoy the show. I want to welcome 38 00:03:02.240 --> 00:03:05.800 our guest to the show. It is Jason from Washington. Welcome to the 39 00:03:05.800 --> 00:03:07.599 show. Jason. Thanks. Let's get right into it. Let's talk about 40 00:03:07.599 --> 00:03:10.680 this bigfoot thing. What guy you interested in the subject? To begin with? 41 00:03:12.240 --> 00:03:17.680 Growing up in Washington, lifelong Washingtonian plus bouncing all over the world in 42 00:03:17.719 --> 00:03:23.000 the military. Washington State's my home except for the West coast. West side, 43 00:03:23.400 --> 00:03:29.919 the East side of Washington is my playground, lifelong outdoors. You name 44 00:03:29.960 --> 00:03:32.560 it, I participated in it. Just about you name it, I probably 45 00:03:32.599 --> 00:03:38.199 have done it. I've lived in Washington nineteen eighty when Mousain Hells Blew the 46 00:03:38.240 --> 00:03:44.439 old Man was the only sheriff deputy around the base of this town called Cougar, 47 00:03:44.599 --> 00:03:49.919 Washington. Now it's famous for the eight Caves and all the stuff. 48 00:03:50.120 --> 00:03:55.680 But going through life, I always seeing pictures, heard stories. Was never 49 00:03:55.719 --> 00:03:59.879 a believer. Well, I was always on the fence. Wasn't until I 50 00:03:59.879 --> 00:04:03.120 got in the medical field that I started to think there's a possibility of a 51 00:04:03.400 --> 00:04:09.560 species through the stories I had heard, through classes, through lectures, through 52 00:04:09.680 --> 00:04:14.840 military schools I've gone to. I retire, moved to this little town in 53 00:04:14.879 --> 00:04:19.680 northeast Washington called Calville, Washington. It's in the northeast corner Canada, Idaho 54 00:04:19.759 --> 00:04:25.959 and Washington. It's pretty remote. Most of the area is pretty dance untouched. 55 00:04:26.759 --> 00:04:30.120 And did a lot of hunt, a lot of fishing, a lot 56 00:04:30.160 --> 00:04:34.920 of exploring, and I got to know this area extremely well. Nothing no 57 00:04:35.240 --> 00:04:40.079 weird noises or anything that would make me go, huh, what was that? 58 00:04:40.560 --> 00:04:45.519 No. One that most animals and the woods are capable of making different 59 00:04:45.600 --> 00:04:49.079 vocals than what we put them in certain categories. So I knew that if 60 00:04:49.120 --> 00:04:54.120 I might have heard something, now, there's usually a start, a good 61 00:04:54.160 --> 00:04:57.920 reason for what you heard. One hot day, actually it was July thirty 62 00:04:57.959 --> 00:05:02.959 first to August first, twenty thirteen, my kids just couldn't sit still that 63 00:05:03.120 --> 00:05:08.240 day, two day hot to be outside, nothing to do in the house. 64 00:05:08.759 --> 00:05:11.720 One of my kids says, Dad, let's go up walkhu do candy 65 00:05:11.720 --> 00:05:15.279 and trail. And I'm like, that's awesome because we're gonna get up in 66 00:05:15.279 --> 00:05:20.199 the higher elevation, cooler temps. This trail we've walked so many times. 67 00:05:20.800 --> 00:05:27.680 The huckleberries in our area had just popped, size of grapes, huge little 68 00:05:28.439 --> 00:05:32.439 forest candy. Two for one. Let's go take this beautiful walk, stuff 69 00:05:32.480 --> 00:05:39.319 our guts with huckleberries, and enjoy the afternoon to the evening. Here we 70 00:05:39.399 --> 00:05:46.319 go. Now, this trail where it begins is one point seven miles, 71 00:05:46.759 --> 00:05:50.959 so it's not your little walk in the park. The first quarter mile you 72 00:05:51.040 --> 00:05:54.920 got to be a pretty dark, good shape to go through all the sneak 73 00:05:54.959 --> 00:05:59.240 switchbacks. Once you get up there, then as meanders up and it is 74 00:06:00.120 --> 00:06:05.240 at this lookout, this flat perfect ledge. It drops down about one hundred 75 00:06:05.240 --> 00:06:10.040 and twenty feet in front of you and about thirty thirty five feet above you. 76 00:06:10.199 --> 00:06:13.639 But you're just on a little wedge and this ledge is just when you 77 00:06:13.680 --> 00:06:16.240 sit there, you're just like you overlook this canyon and it's just such a 78 00:06:16.240 --> 00:06:21.600 stress reliever. It's just postcard and we love getting up there. We spent 79 00:06:21.639 --> 00:06:25.800 the nights up there on this ledge camping. But we start our walk. 80 00:06:26.279 --> 00:06:30.759 I need to remind everybody out there, I'm extremely hard of hearing. Thank 81 00:06:30.800 --> 00:06:33.959 you, Uncle Sam. We start walking up this trail single file. My 82 00:06:34.079 --> 00:06:39.959 son is in front, he's fifteen. Then it was my dog, Big 83 00:06:40.040 --> 00:06:45.839 Dude, myself, my daughter who is twelve, and my wife pulling up 84 00:06:45.879 --> 00:06:49.000 the rear. And we're just taking our time going up. But my son 85 00:06:49.160 --> 00:06:53.879 is just filled with energy. Being fifteen, he's ready to rock and roll. 86 00:06:54.439 --> 00:06:58.879 And we get up to the first ruts park. My son is stopped 87 00:06:58.920 --> 00:07:01.920 in the middle of the trail. Now this is not a maintained trail of 88 00:07:01.920 --> 00:07:05.120 any sort. If there's a for service trail, it has a lot of 89 00:07:05.120 --> 00:07:09.519 dead fall over it. Yeah, I gotta climb over certain areas and it's 90 00:07:09.519 --> 00:07:14.000 pretty thick. He stopped us one area, and as I catch up to 91 00:07:14.079 --> 00:07:18.319 him, he goes that, do you hear this noise? This commotion? 92 00:07:18.959 --> 00:07:23.560 How I did? Don't even ask me. I can't hear what you hear. 93 00:07:23.680 --> 00:07:27.560 He's a luxury and what does it sound like? Now where we were 94 00:07:27.600 --> 00:07:31.879 at, this canyon dropped down and it came out to another canyon, so 95 00:07:31.920 --> 00:07:42.279 it's just horizontal from us. He described just some loud motion, crunching odd 96 00:07:42.439 --> 00:07:46.839 sounds that made him pause, and I says, don't worry about it. 97 00:07:46.839 --> 00:07:50.040 It's probably a mouse. She got up after batter a bull and he's making 98 00:07:50.079 --> 00:07:56.079 his way, or might have been a group of free range cattle down below. 99 00:07:56.279 --> 00:07:59.519 Says get going, let's go. So like he bounces up ahead. 100 00:08:00.079 --> 00:08:03.560 Teen minutes later, maybe he stopped again. Now this time we're all in 101 00:08:03.600 --> 00:08:07.279 one group. He goes, there it is again. My wife and my 102 00:08:07.360 --> 00:08:11.720 daughter heard it. I still didn't hear it. But my big old dog, 103 00:08:11.759 --> 00:08:13.480 he's got his ears all perked up and he's looking across that canyon and 104 00:08:13.519 --> 00:08:16.000 like, I hear it. Dude. Still, I couldn't put two and 105 00:08:16.000 --> 00:08:22.240 two together. Why as we're gaining an elevation, this sound is gaining an 106 00:08:22.279 --> 00:08:28.759 elevation and parallel horizontal to us just didn't make any sense. Let's go, 107 00:08:30.120 --> 00:08:33.159 man. I lost count of how many times he had stopped and said, 108 00:08:33.360 --> 00:08:37.679 there it is again. Now I'm starting to really put two to two together. 109 00:08:39.200 --> 00:08:43.039 This gotta be a big bull moose to stop caring about his antlers when 110 00:08:43.039 --> 00:08:45.679 he's going through the brush. It's only I don't all I could think of 111 00:08:45.759 --> 00:08:50.919 that would be making noise working its way up that loudly as we're working our 112 00:08:50.960 --> 00:08:56.320 way up, but it still seemed extremely odd. We get to this really 113 00:08:56.240 --> 00:09:01.080 damp cedar grove. It is a spot to sit and cool off and there's 114 00:09:01.200 --> 00:09:05.519 a little natural spring you can drink out of it if you need some water. 115 00:09:07.159 --> 00:09:09.799 Now I need to back up here for a minute. At this spot, 116 00:09:09.960 --> 00:09:13.759 we had walked this trail so many times. My kids were in diapers, 117 00:09:13.799 --> 00:09:16.960 I had carried them up there so many times. This is our go 118 00:09:16.039 --> 00:09:22.519 to spot. No need to have brought cameras or phones, no need to 119 00:09:22.600 --> 00:09:26.440 drag extra water because we knew up at the spring we could get water. 120 00:09:26.000 --> 00:09:30.600 At this spot. We had stopped, so we were very white, geared 121 00:09:30.679 --> 00:09:35.759 up, basically nothing next to a handgun at pocket knife and our feet. 122 00:09:35.039 --> 00:09:41.279 So we're sitting at this cedar grove and from our back we heard this same 123 00:09:41.360 --> 00:09:46.480 sound, just crunching, not crashing or running, but something is moving through 124 00:09:46.679 --> 00:09:52.960 the fell timber, crunching branches that are on the ground. But it wasn't 125 00:09:52.960 --> 00:09:58.440 a walking sound, and it was not continuous. It was like whatever it 126 00:09:58.480 --> 00:10:01.639 was would get to a spot, wait for us to catch up, and 127 00:10:01.679 --> 00:10:05.600 then it would make it self known by these sounds. Now, at this 128 00:10:05.639 --> 00:10:09.159 point in time, I'm really not putting two to two together. This is 129 00:10:09.559 --> 00:10:13.519 odd, no big deal. Now we're on the last leg of the trail, 130 00:10:13.080 --> 00:10:18.399 and where the trail cans again, it's a lookout, sheer drop in 131 00:10:18.480 --> 00:10:24.000 front and a vertical wall behind. A bitch, My son just can't wait 132 00:10:24.039 --> 00:10:28.320 to be number one. He can't wait to claim that spot. He got 133 00:10:28.360 --> 00:10:31.480 there first and he took off. I know what he's gonna do. He's 134 00:10:31.480 --> 00:10:35.120 gonna get up there and just look around, throw rocks off and then wait 135 00:10:35.120 --> 00:10:39.679 for us to catch up. And we catch up. He ain't there nowhere, 136 00:10:39.039 --> 00:10:43.480 there's nowhere to go. Instantly, I had that gut feeling that he 137 00:10:45.240 --> 00:10:48.000 went off the edge. Didn't hear sound. Of course, if somebody had 138 00:10:48.039 --> 00:10:54.080 fell from that steep of a distance straight down, there might be no sounds 139 00:10:54.120 --> 00:10:56.759 to be made. So I'm doing my best to get up to the edge 140 00:10:58.240 --> 00:11:01.200 and I look down for any side, and I'm yelling for him, and 141 00:11:01.240 --> 00:11:05.279 I'm yelling for him. He goes dad, and I turned around one hundred 142 00:11:05.440 --> 00:11:09.519 degrees and he's on top of this thirty thirty five foot rock wall, peeking 143 00:11:09.559 --> 00:11:13.200 down, looking down at me, and I go, get your ass down 144 00:11:13.240 --> 00:11:16.480 here. What are you doing? Get down here? He goes, but 145 00:11:16.559 --> 00:11:20.159 down, I go, just get down here, simmers his way down. 146 00:11:20.399 --> 00:11:24.559 I'm like, what are you doing up there? Do you know how bad 147 00:11:24.600 --> 00:11:28.279 he scared us? He goes, Dad, let me explain. He goes. 148 00:11:28.840 --> 00:11:31.200 When I got up here, I look down on the edge. I 149 00:11:31.440 --> 00:11:35.960 looked back behind me and there was a man peeking over the top. I 150 00:11:37.039 --> 00:11:41.120 go, what are you talking about? A man? But what man? 151 00:11:41.440 --> 00:11:46.480 We're the only rid down below. Now. Instantly I thought there could have 152 00:11:46.519 --> 00:11:50.399 been a homeless dude living up here. That doesn't happen in this area. 153 00:11:50.039 --> 00:11:56.639 This is pretty remote for a homeless person to be living or hiding out. 154 00:11:56.720 --> 00:12:01.000 Possibly. I didn't believe my son, No, dude, you're tripping. 155 00:12:01.519 --> 00:12:05.399 Maybe you saw a crow or a raven or something that in the corner of 156 00:12:05.440 --> 00:12:07.799 your eye flew off And he goes, no, Dad, this is the 157 00:12:07.879 --> 00:12:11.799 guy. I didn't believe him. I'm just like, no, but I'm 158 00:12:11.799 --> 00:12:16.960 not going to argue with him and cause any drama stress and whatever. I 159 00:12:16.960 --> 00:12:18.399 says, Okay, dude, can you describe it? He says it was 160 00:12:18.440 --> 00:12:22.840 just a man. We left it at that. So we sat on this 161 00:12:22.519 --> 00:12:28.000 lookout and enjoyed the view of Mother Earth in this spot. Just the sun's 162 00:12:28.039 --> 00:12:33.759 getting ready to drew down over the mountain range across the mess, that golden 163 00:12:33.799 --> 00:12:37.960 hour of beauty. I told everybody, all right, we got exactly one 164 00:12:39.000 --> 00:12:41.519 hour to be back of the truck. I don't want to be walking this 165 00:12:41.600 --> 00:12:46.000 trail at night with all of you. One of us might get hurt, 166 00:12:46.039 --> 00:12:50.639 twist and ankle, so let's keep going. So the roles were reversed this 167 00:12:50.720 --> 00:12:56.360 time. Our dog, he was a German Shepherd lab mix, about one 168 00:12:56.440 --> 00:13:00.399 hundred and twenty pounds, the coolest, just a mountain dogs, had to 169 00:13:00.399 --> 00:13:03.679 be in the lead, and he would never get far enough ahead or out 170 00:13:03.720 --> 00:13:07.240 of our sight. If he did, he would stop or come back. 171 00:13:07.759 --> 00:13:09.159 He was not one of these dogs that would take off and you have to 172 00:13:09.240 --> 00:13:13.519 go find him an hour later. He always wanted to be in visual range 173 00:13:13.519 --> 00:13:16.159 of us. I guess it was like his protective way of making sure, 174 00:13:16.320 --> 00:13:18.360 Hey, you guys are behind. Okay, I can go up a little 175 00:13:18.399 --> 00:13:22.840 head, or go up a little further. So my dog's in lead. 176 00:13:22.399 --> 00:13:28.320 Then it's my wife and my son, my daughter and I'm pulling up the 177 00:13:28.360 --> 00:13:35.840 rear. Now the whole trek up. We are counting buckleberries just gorgeing on 178 00:13:35.919 --> 00:13:39.200 him, and it would come out one time a year, and you better 179 00:13:39.200 --> 00:13:43.600 get him. Our fingers were purple, lips are purple, tongue purple. 180 00:13:43.159 --> 00:13:48.480 We had our fill. This beginning stretch to head back is straight. It's 181 00:13:48.519 --> 00:13:52.240 flat, easy walking. You could walk it with the cane or a walker 182 00:13:52.360 --> 00:13:58.279 basically. Then it makes an immediate right hand ninety degree turn downhill. So 183 00:13:58.440 --> 00:14:03.360 we're leaving, we're making a ninety degree right hand turn, and then there's 184 00:14:03.440 --> 00:14:09.360 another left hand ninety degree turn that drops down into this cool cedar grove where 185 00:14:09.399 --> 00:14:13.360 we rest. My wife says, we're gonna go up, sit down at 186 00:14:13.360 --> 00:14:16.440 the cedar grove and get something to drink. I said, no, prom 187 00:14:16.480 --> 00:14:20.960 I'm not thirsty. We'll be catching up. So my dog, my wife, 188 00:14:20.000 --> 00:14:22.840 and my son go by. Then my daughter is in front of me 189 00:14:24.440 --> 00:14:28.399 and we're slowly working along this trail. The best way I can describe this, 190 00:14:30.120 --> 00:14:33.840 and I don't know how many of you out there listening or watching have 191 00:14:33.879 --> 00:14:37.440 ever in military and combat. You can sense an oh shit moment. Not 192 00:14:37.559 --> 00:14:41.399 all the time, but you can just start to sense something's about to pop 193 00:14:41.440 --> 00:14:46.000 off. Or if you're in the woods and you feel eyes on you, 194 00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:50.600 you felt that predatory feeling where it makes you pause and your senses are just 195 00:14:50.480 --> 00:14:58.039 tight. I felt that feeling intense, and I stopped on this trail and 196 00:14:58.120 --> 00:15:05.000 I stood looking at my daughter. I turned to my left. Thirty feet 197 00:15:05.279 --> 00:15:09.240 from my left was I'm gonna do my best to explain this, and I'm 198 00:15:09.240 --> 00:15:18.679 gonna go into great detail. Also was this juvenile young sasquatch. It was 199 00:15:18.759 --> 00:15:24.960 sitting either cross legged on its knees or on its rear end. To this 200 00:15:24.080 --> 00:15:30.399 day, I do not know which is correct, because the huckleberry bushes were 201 00:15:31.000 --> 00:15:35.480 preventing any better look at his lower extremities, so it's like a barrier. 202 00:15:35.240 --> 00:15:39.240 The brush was so thick, so I could see from his navel to the 203 00:15:39.279 --> 00:15:43.879 top of his head. I can't tell you how smart this little sucker was. 204 00:15:43.519 --> 00:15:48.759 Where he posted up was a perfect ambush spot. So what he had 205 00:15:48.799 --> 00:15:54.759 done, what I believe was what my son had saw, was this one 206 00:15:56.559 --> 00:16:03.320 or one of many in this area, This juvenile sasquatch. He had his 207 00:16:03.720 --> 00:16:10.720 back breast hard up against a blue spruce tree. Ian he was thrust back 208 00:16:11.559 --> 00:16:15.440 and the boughs of the spruce tree just a few inches above his head, 209 00:16:15.879 --> 00:16:22.600 and he was in complete shadow from the bowels of the tree and the huckleberry 210 00:16:22.799 --> 00:16:27.240 bushes from his waist down to his left, which again would have been my 211 00:16:27.440 --> 00:16:34.200 left. The sun was still just enough to illuminate. This was not darkness. 212 00:16:34.440 --> 00:16:40.399 This was free dusk. You could see everything clear, but where he 213 00:16:40.559 --> 00:16:44.879 was at he was just a little bit darker. You could picture every part 214 00:16:44.919 --> 00:16:48.399 of this cute little dude's facial features, his hair. I'll get to that, 215 00:16:48.840 --> 00:16:52.360 So I go. Haley got her attention. She turned around, and 216 00:16:52.440 --> 00:16:56.639 she was kissy with me. She goes, Dad, I don't want to 217 00:16:56.679 --> 00:17:00.159 eat any more hulkerberries. But she thought I was pointing to was a new 218 00:17:00.200 --> 00:17:06.200 bush of buckleberries. And I go, look right there, look over my 219 00:17:06.319 --> 00:17:10.160 left shoulder, so this direction. Look. She takes a couple of steps 220 00:17:10.160 --> 00:17:15.160 to me. She looks back. She's twelve. She goes, holy fucking 221 00:17:15.200 --> 00:17:18.599 shit, Dad, let just ask watch. I go shit, I know, 222 00:17:18.160 --> 00:17:25.680 don't. So we together backed up towards it two to three more feet. 223 00:17:25.920 --> 00:17:30.119 So now we're just past twenty five feet, but we're not at the 224 00:17:30.160 --> 00:17:34.160 thirty feet mark. This cute little dude. He was so happy where he 225 00:17:34.240 --> 00:17:41.039 was at. All he was doing within his reach was kicking the huckleberry one 226 00:17:41.079 --> 00:17:45.519 at a time. First, suck it in her pursu's lips, look at 227 00:17:45.559 --> 00:17:51.880 my daughter. This continued and continued for over five minutes of this three way 228 00:17:52.079 --> 00:17:56.079 visual. I couldn't believe what was going on. We had all the time 229 00:17:56.119 --> 00:18:02.920 in the world to sit here and watch this young guy watching us. It 230 00:18:03.039 --> 00:18:07.720 was not a stare down. We were in awe. This little guy was 231 00:18:08.400 --> 00:18:14.279 having the time of his life. The best wagon described this is he was 232 00:18:15.039 --> 00:18:19.759 happy. The vibe he gave off was nothing but pure bliss. He would 233 00:18:19.799 --> 00:18:22.839 look at my daughter. We never saw his teeth, but he would smart 234 00:18:23.319 --> 00:18:27.160 and he looked back at him ate smirk. Now, this little guy, 235 00:18:27.160 --> 00:18:30.319 and I keep saying it, this little guy was not little by any means, 236 00:18:32.160 --> 00:18:37.240 but he looked as if he was in middle school or early junior high. 237 00:18:37.839 --> 00:18:42.119 He did not have any wrinkles on his face, There was no facial 238 00:18:42.200 --> 00:18:48.160 hair. He was jacked, His traps were jacked. His chest muscles were 239 00:18:48.240 --> 00:18:53.839 just huge. His arms, his biceps, his triceps, his forearms were 240 00:18:55.039 --> 00:19:00.960 completely formed as if he had just come out to gym just pumped. Masculiness 241 00:19:00.960 --> 00:19:06.319 can be, but soft, that soft, pre pubescent vibe. The hair 242 00:19:06.400 --> 00:19:10.920 was all one length except for on his head. People asked me when it 243 00:19:11.000 --> 00:19:15.000 reached out and grabbed buckalberries didn't have long hair on starms. No, all 244 00:19:15.000 --> 00:19:19.200 the hair was uniformed, but you could see through the hair enough to see 245 00:19:19.200 --> 00:19:23.279 the skin definition. Also, so there was not a thick coat. Maybe 246 00:19:23.279 --> 00:19:27.519 they shed during the summer, let's keep cool. I don't know. But 247 00:19:27.599 --> 00:19:33.160 the color of his hair on the body was the exact same color as the 248 00:19:33.279 --> 00:19:40.920 hair on a cow or bull elk. This light chocolate brown from the neck 249 00:19:41.799 --> 00:19:45.599 the ears to the neck on an elk. Further down they get really darker 250 00:19:45.640 --> 00:19:52.240 brown fluffy hair. But just from the ears to the midneck, that's the 251 00:19:52.240 --> 00:19:55.799 color of the hair on his body. Now again, I'm just relaying the 252 00:19:55.839 --> 00:20:00.880 details that I was taking snapshots in my brain. His hair came to his 253 00:20:02.000 --> 00:20:07.839 chin, got a perfect park up top and just wavy, not straight, 254 00:20:07.519 --> 00:20:12.519 not matted or dreadlocked up. The best way I've described this multiple ways and 255 00:20:12.599 --> 00:20:21.359 multiple times is as if he was being groomed by like his mother, or 256 00:20:21.960 --> 00:20:27.720 if this one just took pride in its appearance but I compare what we saw 257 00:20:29.039 --> 00:20:37.359 to the standard Jack Links commercial sasquatch, your standard scruffy that scolly unkept. 258 00:20:37.079 --> 00:20:41.279 No, this guy looked like he just came out with the SPA, just 259 00:20:41.279 --> 00:20:44.039 had a petticure in no matic here and had his hair done. I could 260 00:20:44.039 --> 00:20:48.599 not imagine it being any cleaner than what he was now when he would pick 261 00:20:48.640 --> 00:20:55.359 a huckleberry. His fingernails were identical to our fingernails, our cuticles. Some 262 00:20:55.400 --> 00:21:00.279 people said that they have seen claws. No, these were exactly like human 263 00:21:00.279 --> 00:21:06.559 cuticles, fingernails either ground down with rock or bitten off. But they were 264 00:21:06.599 --> 00:21:11.680 all uniform, and they were pitched black, jet black in color. So 265 00:21:11.799 --> 00:21:15.799 there was a contrast between the fingernails and his skin, which was like a 266 00:21:15.880 --> 00:21:21.359 chocolate brown, not a dark chocolate, just a chocolate brown. Definition of 267 00:21:21.480 --> 00:21:26.279 his hands were not overly large. I expected them to be these giant mets. 268 00:21:26.880 --> 00:21:30.920 No, they were proportioned to his body size. But the dexterity that 269 00:21:32.000 --> 00:21:37.880 he had to look at me or my daughter with this peripheral vision kick a 270 00:21:37.960 --> 00:21:42.160 huckleberry without having to look his eyes. His pupils were of course jet black. 271 00:21:42.640 --> 00:21:47.359 His irises were I want to say, like a dark hazel. Rest 272 00:21:47.400 --> 00:21:52.519 of it was white like ours, normal, but just full of love. 273 00:21:52.319 --> 00:21:56.319 And that's the best way I can describe this little guy. He was so 274 00:21:56.480 --> 00:22:00.960 happy where he was at. Now we're sitting here having again this three way 275 00:22:02.720 --> 00:22:07.319 stare down, this looks you back and forth. I'm continuing to visually take 276 00:22:07.400 --> 00:22:15.000 snapshots again. His nose was not overly exaggerated. It was plump, but 277 00:22:15.359 --> 00:22:22.359 not smashed dan and just had a uniform look of a youthful child. Eyebrows 278 00:22:22.440 --> 00:22:26.279 were pretty thick and bushy. Remember that. But the most important thing that 279 00:22:26.279 --> 00:22:30.039 I'd like to pass on is when my dog, my wife, and my 280 00:22:30.119 --> 00:22:36.960 son walked by that same distance, my dog did not alert, nor did 281 00:22:36.960 --> 00:22:41.839 my wife or my son. We didn't smell a smell people report as odd 282 00:22:41.920 --> 00:22:48.000 smells. No, this gave off no odor. Maybe it had bathed earlier 283 00:22:48.039 --> 00:22:52.559 in the day. Why did my dog not Since this being I don't know 284 00:22:52.680 --> 00:22:56.480 to this day, that bugs me because he's always on alert for everything. 285 00:22:56.839 --> 00:23:03.839 Now we've been here for going on seven eight minutes. I know that my 286 00:23:03.880 --> 00:23:07.039 wife's gonna get impatient. Sure enough, I could hear them starting to slowly 287 00:23:07.119 --> 00:23:12.519 work their way back up to us, and I know when they round this 288 00:23:12.640 --> 00:23:18.119 second left hand corner, they're going to be in a straight line to us. 289 00:23:18.559 --> 00:23:22.599 Now, I'm worried that if my dog sees what he missed, he's 290 00:23:22.599 --> 00:23:25.200 got to go up and do what he does. But as soon as my 291 00:23:25.279 --> 00:23:29.200 wife round to the corner, I told her to stop, grabbed the collar, 292 00:23:29.559 --> 00:23:33.759 pulled him back. She didn't know why, but she grabbed the dog 293 00:23:33.799 --> 00:23:37.640 and held them. I motioned, we're coming. I told my daughter, 294 00:23:37.720 --> 00:23:42.200 I go move, go real slow. Off to my right. I also 295 00:23:42.720 --> 00:23:47.480 sensed something off it. I wasn't paying any attention to it. I was 296 00:23:47.559 --> 00:23:49.519 paying attention to this guy to my left. As soon as my daughter took 297 00:23:49.559 --> 00:23:56.039 a couple steps, I took my two three steps. At the last moment, 298 00:23:56.680 --> 00:24:02.039 I turned my neck slowly and I caught a glimpse of him. He 299 00:24:02.119 --> 00:24:04.880 had stood up. As we started to walk off, he had stood up. 300 00:24:06.480 --> 00:24:12.559 The last glimpse that I saw was one final stride into the dark timber 301 00:24:12.680 --> 00:24:17.319 to our left, where he would have gone into the cedar grove. As 302 00:24:17.359 --> 00:24:21.960 he was taking his stride, That's where identified him as a male. He 303 00:24:22.000 --> 00:24:27.440 had penis, he had a scrotum. The standard jump we got disappeared into 304 00:24:27.480 --> 00:24:32.119 the timber, there's no way I could put a weight on this. No 305 00:24:32.279 --> 00:24:36.920 way as impossible. We don't know the boat density. We don't know the 306 00:24:36.960 --> 00:24:41.839 density of the muscles. How what stay would weigh. I put him at 307 00:24:42.359 --> 00:24:49.200 just under six feet tall, So between the height the youthful look, that's 308 00:24:49.240 --> 00:24:55.880 where I get the juvenile description from. I actually wanted to walk up to 309 00:24:55.960 --> 00:25:00.200 him and sit down next to him or hug him. That's the vibe I 310 00:25:00.279 --> 00:25:03.720 got. And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to seem. Right back after 311 00:25:03.759 --> 00:25:11.920 these messages, I did have a firearminm me covered with my t shirt. 312 00:25:11.400 --> 00:25:17.559 There's no way I would have used it ever, unless for protection from family. 313 00:25:17.680 --> 00:25:19.680 I do want to add one note to this. I said this earlier. 314 00:25:19.759 --> 00:25:25.240 There was no reason to bring cameras or cell phone. I believe that 315 00:25:25.319 --> 00:25:27.880 if I had, or one of us had, this would not have occurred. 316 00:25:29.440 --> 00:25:33.279 That's just my belief. So for leaving our cell phones, cameras, 317 00:25:33.359 --> 00:25:37.680 etc. In the truck, we were rewarded. That's the best way I 318 00:25:37.680 --> 00:25:41.680 can put this. So we get together in the group and we're working our 319 00:25:41.680 --> 00:25:47.759 way down real slow, and we're talking. We're trash talking. You didn't 320 00:25:47.759 --> 00:25:51.000 get to see it, how hot we did, They're real. Half way 321 00:25:51.039 --> 00:25:56.640 down, the coyotes started roll calling. They just were going off in the 322 00:25:56.799 --> 00:26:02.559 distance, not close enough for what my daughter and I had seen, but 323 00:26:02.799 --> 00:26:06.480 in not distance that it took off. The best way I can put this 324 00:26:06.599 --> 00:26:11.680 was a scream back to the coyotes that I never heard before. It wasn't 325 00:26:11.680 --> 00:26:17.880 a howl, but it was this odd scream, and those coyotes shut up 326 00:26:17.920 --> 00:26:22.720 instantly, like a light switch done. I thought that was really spooky because 327 00:26:22.720 --> 00:26:26.240 I've been out in the woods and the coyotes will go on wrong so they're 328 00:26:26.279 --> 00:26:27.920 done real calling. I've never heard an animal shut them up like that. 329 00:26:29.599 --> 00:26:33.440 Down to the rig, all that's on my mind. I got to come 330 00:26:33.480 --> 00:26:37.640 back the next day. I did not have a plan or a real intention. 331 00:26:38.640 --> 00:26:42.119 I knew I wasn't going to go back up and have an encounter again. 332 00:26:42.720 --> 00:26:45.559 I knew that was not going to happen, but I wanted to go 333 00:26:45.640 --> 00:26:51.160 back up to the Zak spot and make sure I wasn't crazy, make sure 334 00:26:51.680 --> 00:26:55.319 everything lined up right. I knew it wasn't crazy because my daughter was with 335 00:26:55.480 --> 00:26:59.119 me. So we get home that night and I says, I want to 336 00:26:59.160 --> 00:27:03.400 go back. Everybody wants to go back. So we're going. We're stuffing 337 00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:07.480 the camper. We're going to go up for a week. We have everything 338 00:27:07.519 --> 00:27:10.680 ready to go. One of my kids asked if one of their best friends 339 00:27:10.759 --> 00:27:14.319 could go, and I said, more the merrier, let's go. That's 340 00:27:14.319 --> 00:27:17.640 what it's for. Get out and go camping. Now, this is not 341 00:27:17.799 --> 00:27:22.680 any paid asphalt campground where there's a shitgar five feet away from you and another 342 00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:26.160 person camped next to you. No, you're way up in the bush. 343 00:27:26.200 --> 00:27:30.680 You got to take everything. Next morning we finish loading up gear. My 344 00:27:30.759 --> 00:27:34.079 wife and the kids run the store, get all the goodies they want. 345 00:27:34.279 --> 00:27:37.519 I'm making sure I have all the stuff we need to. We stay a 346 00:27:37.559 --> 00:27:42.079 week here, we go, let's just go camping. I want to go 347 00:27:42.160 --> 00:27:45.839 back up. So the first thing we did and we got there was red 348 00:27:45.920 --> 00:27:49.119 noon. It's hot. We got the camper in the shaded trees. Back 349 00:27:49.160 --> 00:27:55.119 then, everybody's doing their thing. I'm pulling up a log, cutting up 350 00:27:55.119 --> 00:28:00.519 in around, splitting for firewood. I'm waiting for around the same time to 351 00:28:00.559 --> 00:28:03.640 go up there. But it's a little cooler, so we're just doing our 352 00:28:03.839 --> 00:28:10.559 normal activities slowly, and time comes. I'm like, all right, guys, 353 00:28:10.680 --> 00:28:14.599 I'm gonna grab my pack and I'm gonna boog you up to the look 354 00:28:14.680 --> 00:28:17.599 out. Oh, they all want to go, They want to go. 355 00:28:18.240 --> 00:28:21.440 Honestly, I'm like, I just want to go, No problem, all 356 00:28:21.519 --> 00:28:25.000 right, more than merry here in my pack. For the years have been 357 00:28:25.319 --> 00:28:30.680 in the medical field. There are mandatory things that I must carry, Lots 358 00:28:30.680 --> 00:28:34.960 of ancillary things that you might need, but just stole abandon case. One 359 00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:37.480 of my kits, one of my mad kits, is a surgical kit, 360 00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:42.160 one hundred percent of sterile. All the tools, the instruments, everything in 361 00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:47.559 this kit is professional. This is at no hoky doki by a Walmart crap. 362 00:28:47.799 --> 00:28:51.720 The rest of it is out of gear. More of the story of 363 00:28:51.799 --> 00:28:55.519 the high Cup was I just wanted to go back to that spot. Brought 364 00:28:55.519 --> 00:28:59.799 a camera just in case. We get to the spot. Drop my backpack. 365 00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:03.799 I start cutting my way through the hookleberry brush. It's a pretty good 366 00:29:03.799 --> 00:29:08.920 size one. And just as I'm getting past the last few brashes that are 367 00:29:08.920 --> 00:29:15.480 giving me trouble spreading the brashes apart, I looked down on the ground right 368 00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:19.839 where it had been posted up with this backup against this tree was the perfect 369 00:29:21.519 --> 00:29:26.559 fecal sample. It had shipped, it had defecated right there, either as 370 00:29:26.599 --> 00:29:33.160 it was leaving or if it was sitting on its knees and dropped one or 371 00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:38.160 Frier time frame, it was within twenty four hours, because we came back 372 00:29:38.160 --> 00:29:42.119 the next day. I opened up my med kit, and I have two 373 00:29:42.960 --> 00:29:48.359 stereo vials, multiple pairs of surgical gloves. So the first thing I did, 374 00:29:48.599 --> 00:29:52.039 and this all comes into play here down the road, I took a 375 00:29:52.079 --> 00:30:00.599 little piece of wood stick and I started to probe the fecal sample. The 376 00:30:00.680 --> 00:30:06.400 outer casing had just hardened up enough where it hadn't turned hard. I can 377 00:30:06.599 --> 00:30:11.519 apply pressure and then poke through it into the material. So now I know 378 00:30:12.160 --> 00:30:18.559 that this sample is extremely fresh. It wasn't days or weeks old. I 379 00:30:18.599 --> 00:30:22.559 started going down my checklist. Did anybody come up here while we weren't home 380 00:30:23.200 --> 00:30:29.200 or packing in the morning. No, Because on one spot of the trail 381 00:30:29.559 --> 00:30:33.880 it's a sandy spit. There was no bootprints other than our own coming down. 382 00:30:34.519 --> 00:30:38.400 So as I'm coming up, I made sure that nobody had come up. 383 00:30:38.960 --> 00:30:44.119 So I know for a fact that no person had come up. If 384 00:30:44.119 --> 00:30:47.440 they had, why would they have taken a dump in this one spot? 385 00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:52.480 It's one in a million, So I'm checking off these boxes. This has 386 00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:57.039 to have been from this little guy. Now I'm going to deviate here just 387 00:30:57.079 --> 00:31:03.559 for a second. Most out skilled out doorsmen, they can identify the fecal 388 00:31:03.799 --> 00:31:07.319 matter of just about all the creatures in the woods, from the ungulates, 389 00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:11.400 the cats, the wolves, the bears, birds. We know what their 390 00:31:11.880 --> 00:31:18.039 droppings look like. Take a look instantly, human feces. Again, I'm 391 00:31:18.079 --> 00:31:22.839 going back to my medical hard drive here. When it works its way through 392 00:31:22.960 --> 00:31:29.000 our smaller testing upper and then through our lower testine, it creates a segmented 393 00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:33.480 look. A normal bowel movement, very identifiable unless you have like loose stool, 394 00:31:33.799 --> 00:31:38.160 frostate issues or other issues. Majority of the human stool has a very 395 00:31:38.200 --> 00:31:45.400 particular segmented look because pieces come down and they build up like lego blocks. 396 00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:48.759 So I knew, okay, all of this is adding up, the time, 397 00:31:48.279 --> 00:31:55.880 the visual, the softness. I take and slice one end off and 398 00:31:55.920 --> 00:32:00.279 I put in a stereovial. I slice another end off and put it in 399 00:32:00.279 --> 00:32:05.279 a stereo vial, and then I take the remainder and I put it in 400 00:32:05.319 --> 00:32:08.880 a sandwich ziplock bag. Again, this is all stereole technique. This is 401 00:32:08.920 --> 00:32:15.319 all done with stero instruments, except for the ziplock bag that was just grabbed 402 00:32:15.319 --> 00:32:19.880 out the camper. Get back to count I put everything in a separate little 403 00:32:20.119 --> 00:32:22.720 ice chest that could hold a six pack of beer. I drank the beer 404 00:32:22.759 --> 00:32:25.240 that night, so it was just ice. So I put all the samples 405 00:32:25.279 --> 00:32:28.680 in there, and I told everybody, don't touch this, leave it alone. 406 00:32:28.799 --> 00:32:31.839 Fail knew, but just frame near micro But before we left, I 407 00:32:31.960 --> 00:32:37.240 was taking measurements of the height from the base of the tree to the top 408 00:32:37.279 --> 00:32:42.759 of the boughs, the diameter around the tree, the distance from the base 409 00:32:42.799 --> 00:32:45.920 of the tree to the hook. I was writing down notes up to notes 410 00:32:45.519 --> 00:32:52.680 and wow, did that spin my brain like a blender. The day before 411 00:32:52.319 --> 00:33:00.599 completely changed my life. Now I'm a believer. That's what started my passion 412 00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:05.839 for investigating, not harassing, not the hunting, getting out in the bush 413 00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:13.359 and finding physical evidence that can start to stack up over time. So you 414 00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:16.079 asked me, what got me into this? Having this encounter with this little 415 00:33:16.119 --> 00:33:22.480 guy just WHOA just spun me. So we come back to camp, put 416 00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:27.240 everything away, we're talking, just having a good time. Now that's the 417 00:33:27.279 --> 00:33:32.440 second day starts to get dark, just dark enough where you could still see 418 00:33:32.759 --> 00:33:37.960 into the trees a little bit. It's time to start the campfire, that 419 00:33:37.079 --> 00:33:40.519 old, lovely campfire where you're sitting stare with the coals for hours and let 420 00:33:40.519 --> 00:33:45.119 your brain wander. I had cut enough wood that we could sit there for 421 00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:52.240 days. We start setting up our cat chairs around the fire ring rock ring 422 00:33:52.759 --> 00:33:55.279 e stept for myself. I'm a stander. I like to stand all the 423 00:33:55.319 --> 00:34:00.720 time. So everybody's sitting in their camp chair, roast marshmallows and hot dogs 424 00:34:00.759 --> 00:34:07.199 and s'mores and doing the old cap stuff, the normal. Our dog he 425 00:34:07.639 --> 00:34:13.039 had his own camp chair. He took it, he commandeered it. He 426 00:34:13.159 --> 00:34:15.039 just said, this is mine. So we just finally gave it in to 427 00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:19.239 him and said, okay, Bud, whenever you're ready. After he's done 428 00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:22.440 walking around, snipping and tired. I don't know how he does it, 429 00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:27.239 but he gets his big butt up in his chair and he rolls himself up 430 00:34:27.280 --> 00:34:32.559 into this ball where he has this perfect vision looking into the campfire like we're 431 00:34:32.599 --> 00:34:37.920 doing. Wherever he goes, he was happy. They continue to eat the 432 00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:43.079 s'mores and the hot dogs and all that, and it's getting dark. I 433 00:34:43.199 --> 00:34:47.079 want to say it was about eleven pm. It has not been night yet 434 00:34:47.519 --> 00:34:52.239 the full moon. Every star was out, so there was pretty good illumination 435 00:34:53.039 --> 00:34:58.719 from the moon in the starlight onto the ground. You take two steps into 436 00:34:58.760 --> 00:35:01.559 the timber, you're a pitch flack. It's just that stick of canopy. 437 00:35:02.079 --> 00:35:07.679 This is important to try to describe here. Where we were camped was on 438 00:35:07.719 --> 00:35:13.679 a flat plateau. On three sides of us was a steep canyon and another 439 00:35:13.719 --> 00:35:17.280 steep canyon, and then in front of us was the trailhead that dropped down. 440 00:35:17.679 --> 00:35:22.320 The first two hundred and fifty three hundred yards was down, and then 441 00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:25.159 you had to cross this creek called dead Man Creek, and then you started 442 00:35:25.159 --> 00:35:30.000 working your way up. But we're on a flat plateau, and on three 443 00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:32.920 sides of us, it drops down. On the north side of us is 444 00:35:32.920 --> 00:35:37.679 the road that comes in, and it's open field. So I'm trying to 445 00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:44.239 give everybody the best visual description i can. So our camper is on the 446 00:35:44.280 --> 00:35:49.199 east side of this field, right at the edge of this canyon. And 447 00:35:49.239 --> 00:35:52.599 I call it a canyon. She call it a draw. Maybe five six 448 00:35:52.679 --> 00:35:57.960 hundred yards down in front of us, not as much a couple hundred yards 449 00:35:58.159 --> 00:36:00.599 down, and off to our right there's a field that's one hundred yards, 450 00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:05.239 one hundred and twenty five yards and then the third canyon. All of a 451 00:36:05.280 --> 00:36:08.840 sudden, my dog lifts his head up out of his camp chair and he 452 00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:15.519 looks to the trailhead with that something right, he bolts out of his camp 453 00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:20.239 chair. He doesn't run, but he's at a fast pace, and he 454 00:36:20.320 --> 00:36:24.280 gets to the trail head where you start to walk down, but a few 455 00:36:24.320 --> 00:36:31.480 feet to the left, he is staring so intensely down into the dark. 456 00:36:31.599 --> 00:36:37.559 He was jacked up. Something down there had him on hio worked. It 457 00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:40.480 was not looking back at us one hundred percent laser focus straight ahead, but 458 00:36:40.719 --> 00:36:46.960 down and I'm like, what is going on now in my mind? And 459 00:36:47.000 --> 00:36:52.719 I've been asked these questions before, but I'm gonna do my best to just 460 00:36:52.760 --> 00:36:55.199 stay on track here. The only thing in my mind that I could think 461 00:36:55.239 --> 00:37:00.840 of was there was a cougar putting a stock on us. Now in this 462 00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:06.599 area, the wolves are thick, they're all over the place, but they 463 00:37:06.599 --> 00:37:09.639 have plenty of food, free range cattle, elk, moose, the deer. 464 00:37:09.920 --> 00:37:13.480 They're not going to come in and mess with us. Took that one 465 00:37:13.480 --> 00:37:17.039 off the check. Whist grizzly bear, nah, ain't gonna happen. No 466 00:37:17.079 --> 00:37:22.119 reason for grizz to come in when there's all the buckleberries out to gorg Jeohn, 467 00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:25.039 black Bear, quite a few, but they're more scared of us than 468 00:37:25.039 --> 00:37:30.000 we are now gone cooger, No they could think of. No, my 469 00:37:30.079 --> 00:37:35.400 dog's been around every one of those animals. He knows them. He's so 470 00:37:35.519 --> 00:37:38.440 goofy sometimes with these some of the things he does, just kind of play 471 00:37:38.480 --> 00:37:42.880 with these animals in the wild. But I could not figure out what he 472 00:37:42.920 --> 00:37:46.760 was alerting to and being so protective of freaking me out and freaking my wife 473 00:37:46.840 --> 00:37:52.559 out and the kids because they had never seen our dog act this way. 474 00:37:52.679 --> 00:37:54.760 The size he is, the way he looks, you'd think he'd be a 475 00:37:54.800 --> 00:37:59.239 mean one. But no, just the best dog I've ever had. So 476 00:37:59.280 --> 00:38:01.760 I walk up to the darkness where he's out, and I'm looking down there 477 00:38:01.840 --> 00:38:06.440 and I don't see anything, and of course I can't right here, and 478 00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:09.239 I grabbed his chain collar and I just gently tried to pull him back. 479 00:38:09.719 --> 00:38:14.320 He ain't have none of that. He's putting his weight into me. He's 480 00:38:14.440 --> 00:38:19.639 no. Now I'm pulling a little harder. Come on, dude, let 481 00:38:19.639 --> 00:38:23.039 it go. He's no he's not reliquishing his stamps. Now I'm starting to 482 00:38:23.119 --> 00:38:27.960 wonder what's down there, and I had it. I grabbed him by his 483 00:38:28.000 --> 00:38:31.039 collar and I pulled him just enough where he didn't looked up at me, 484 00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:36.840 broke his attention span. I don't even think he was feeling me pulling on 485 00:38:36.960 --> 00:38:39.159 him, other than him pulling forward. But once I got him to look 486 00:38:39.199 --> 00:38:44.119 up at me and I go get back, he hoped, and he moved 487 00:38:44.159 --> 00:38:46.440 his way back to the fire pit, but he kept looking over his shoulder. 488 00:38:47.039 --> 00:38:51.440 This time, he didn't get up in his chair. He weighed near 489 00:38:51.519 --> 00:38:55.400 the fire, but he had his body positioned where he had his head looking 490 00:38:55.519 --> 00:39:00.400 straight where he was focused on. So I don't know what's going on. 491 00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:04.719 My wife goes, it's probably cougar. I go if it is, it 492 00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:08.239 might be just checking us out. It'll move on. If it does, 493 00:39:08.400 --> 00:39:13.039 I'll take care of what needs to be taken care of by any means. 494 00:39:13.079 --> 00:39:15.960 Nobody's going to get hurt. A few minutes go by, pretty quiet. 495 00:39:16.639 --> 00:39:22.119 My dog is still staring into the darkness. His ears are up. He 496 00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:27.320 is on high alert. It was like a light switch again, how I 497 00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:31.480 put it, Just instantaneously, all hell broke loose where he was looking. 498 00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:37.760 Anything on that force floor that could be stepped on, smashed, broken, 499 00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:45.119 beat on a tree just went off. Then off to our right once started 500 00:39:45.280 --> 00:39:52.320 just going berserk, and then to our left, and this commotion is left 501 00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:57.079 and forward, left, forward. I mean, they are just I still 502 00:39:57.119 --> 00:40:00.719 don't know what it was at this point in time. My dog he kept 503 00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:05.920 running up to the edge, and I kept crowding and pulling him back because 504 00:40:05.960 --> 00:40:08.199 you can't see down in there. Honestly, I'm starting to get a little 505 00:40:08.719 --> 00:40:16.840 ticked off because I first thought maybe he was some little shitty kids from wherever 506 00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:22.280 had driven up and then walked up saws while we were up walking and decided 507 00:40:22.280 --> 00:40:25.920 to mess with us at night. No, there's no way the power, 508 00:40:27.599 --> 00:40:32.840 the sounds that were being made were from any normal sized person. This gone 509 00:40:32.960 --> 00:40:42.800 on constantly for hours and hours. It got so overwhelming that my daughter and 510 00:40:42.880 --> 00:40:45.679 her friend went in the camper to feel safe. A few minutes later, 511 00:40:45.719 --> 00:40:50.760 my wife went in. Also. It was not disruptive, boom, smash, 512 00:40:50.880 --> 00:40:53.920 crash, move, just on all three sides. I finally told my 513 00:40:54.000 --> 00:41:00.000 son, oh, I have a GIN one night vision monocular in my backpack. 514 00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:04.119 Go grab it. Let's see if we can just get a little illumination 515 00:41:04.199 --> 00:41:07.159 from where one of them is doing this. He went and got it, 516 00:41:07.199 --> 00:41:09.400 brought it to me. I powered it up. It also had an infrared 517 00:41:09.400 --> 00:41:14.000 illuminator that could reach out another hundred dards, so it had two types of 518 00:41:14.039 --> 00:41:19.039 illumination. So here this crash and boom smashing in front of us. I 519 00:41:19.159 --> 00:41:22.559 run up there and I look. I'm looking nothing. Couldn't see anything, 520 00:41:22.920 --> 00:41:28.000 no movement, not to the right, this one hundred yard field. I'm 521 00:41:28.079 --> 00:41:31.679 just booking over there. Nothing in front of us. Again, I get 522 00:41:31.719 --> 00:41:36.280 back over and I look nothing. Finally, I just said to my son, 523 00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:42.320 dude, you stay right here and you watch down here as long as 524 00:41:42.679 --> 00:41:45.440 you want to. You get tired and I'll take over. That was in 525 00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:49.679 front of us, but on both sides they kept up, so the one 526 00:41:49.719 --> 00:41:52.840 in front of us knew is being washed. It stopped. I don't know 527 00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:54.920 if it was on the ground. I don't know if it jumped up into 528 00:41:54.920 --> 00:41:59.039 the canopy. I don't know how it could have hit itself. And as 529 00:41:59.039 --> 00:42:01.639 soon as my son turned it off and walked and brought it back to me, 530 00:42:02.239 --> 00:42:08.159 it started up again. This continued and continued. Now what I believe 531 00:42:09.199 --> 00:42:15.920 was we walked into a group. We were in their food source. We 532 00:42:16.000 --> 00:42:22.199 were in their area where they wanted to take claim or had taken claim or 533 00:42:22.559 --> 00:42:28.320 gorging on this huckburry patch. That's prime food source, that's calories perfect. 534 00:42:28.440 --> 00:42:30.639 And we stumbled into their area and I think they were telling us to get 535 00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:36.800 get out, get going. I wasn't leaving. I'm standing on my ground. 536 00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:40.960 I'm sorry. Or maybe they were mad at us or mad at that 537 00:42:42.079 --> 00:42:45.920 little one for getting too close, and maybe they were mad at us for 538 00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:51.000 being too close to one of their siblings or the children. So, as 539 00:42:51.039 --> 00:42:57.039 I was stating earlier, before we started walking away, I felt eyes to 540 00:42:57.119 --> 00:43:00.599 my right from where this little one was sitting, and I kind of that 541 00:43:00.760 --> 00:43:07.440 spidey sense that there could have been another sibling or juvenile or babysitter watching us 542 00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:10.760 watch one of their little ones. These are just theories. But they did 543 00:43:10.800 --> 00:43:15.400 not want us there. They were unhappy. Finally I said aloud, just 544 00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:22.159 knock it off. Didn't help. Then there was a roll, a real 545 00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:28.079 quiet spot in this commotion, like finally they got tired. Finally they got 546 00:43:28.079 --> 00:43:31.280 the hint maybe they're done for the night. And my son, who was 547 00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:37.760 fifteen, was staring in the coals, just dreaming wherever our brain goes. 548 00:43:37.519 --> 00:43:42.400 I'm standing, I'm looking left, you know, just being on alert. 549 00:43:42.639 --> 00:43:45.199 Looked at the fire, stoking it up as needed. Our dog is still 550 00:43:45.280 --> 00:43:51.679 laying in one spot, staring the same direction. This part here I cannot 551 00:43:51.719 --> 00:43:54.920 explain. My son is sitting in the camp chair, zoned out. He 552 00:43:55.159 --> 00:44:00.719 slowly stands up, turns to his right, gets around the camp chair, 553 00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:04.519 and he walks off into the darkness, into this field. Now, I'm 554 00:44:04.519 --> 00:44:08.159 a time guy. I'm always watching my watch. It's just habit. So 555 00:44:08.239 --> 00:44:12.119 I think he's got to go take a leak. He's sitting there pound the 556 00:44:12.159 --> 00:44:15.559 mountain. Do he's got to go to the bathroom. Maybe he's just stretching 557 00:44:15.639 --> 00:44:19.599 his legs. But another minute goes by. Now I'm starting to get a 558 00:44:19.599 --> 00:44:22.880 little antsy. I said, I'll give him fifteen more seconds. Just as 559 00:44:22.880 --> 00:44:28.559 that thought crossed into my head, he screamed for me as loud as he 560 00:44:28.559 --> 00:44:34.039 could scream, Dad, not a scream of kirked, but a scream to 561 00:44:34.079 --> 00:44:39.079 get my attention. He yelled so loud. I ran as fast as I 562 00:44:39.119 --> 00:44:45.679 could to the direction where I thought he was yelling at me. They say 563 00:44:45.960 --> 00:45:21.760 You don't have to go home, but you can't stay seaside step stepsis chart, 564 00:45:21.960 --> 00:45:27.639 this child, that chart, everything came r. Get back right back 565 00:45:27.920 --> 00:45:34.760 for joy, for me joy, stay right there, you come in right 566 00:45:34.880 --> 00:46:38.440 away still still stas s s s s stist. 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