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And it hits me, Oh my
gosh, this is a triangle. You

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know, there's explanation for everything that
occurred in the randallshom Fars incident. It

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doesn't involve aliens at all. It
was completely silent. It comes right over

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our heads. Classic clown. He's
also really standing into clearing. He turned

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over to my father, held his
hand, and he looked in his eyes

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and said, we're not alone.
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hello, and welcome to the show. This is Martin willis your host,

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and we are without Alejandro Rojas this
week and next week. He's going to

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be on a UFO cruise. I
believe my guest tonight is all the way

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from Hong Kong. It's it's actually
we're doing time travel. He's tomorrow early

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in the morning, I believe,
right now. And he likes to be

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called Chuck, so we're gonna call
him Chuck. I'll ask him to pronounce

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his name properly on the show when
he's on. He'll be up in just

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one minute here and just a little
just a little housekeeping for everyone. First

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of all, on YouTube during the
breaks up, I've found that I've talked

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a lot of guests and people have
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a break. So I'm going to
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show, So during the break it'll
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well. So just like just like
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So just hang in there that when
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to bring in my guests, I
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on the website podcast ufo dot com. All right, welcome to the show,

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Chuck. How are you Hi?
Good evening? Everyone, Hi,

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good even I'm good. How are
you good evening? Good morning to you.

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It's early morning for you, right, yeah? Is um seven o'clock

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in the morning in Hong Kong here? Wow? Yeah, hey, thanks

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for thank you so much, Thank
you so much for having me in the

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show. Oh oh yeah, my
my pleasure I've actually had some couple of

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people have said that they wanted you
up on the show, and so I

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thought it would be a great idea
to get a perspective. But, um,

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you told me something really interesting when
we talked last night, and that

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is how you learned English. I
want you to tell the audience it's a

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great how did you learn your Your
English is very good? Thank you,

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thank you so much. I actually
I actually picked up my English by watching

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Legal Weapon Lethal Weapon, and you
said about four hundred times four hundred times,

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more than four hundred times the first
movie and probably a couple of hundred

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times the second movie. I just
love it. So basically I actually picked

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up my English from Mel Gibson and
Danny Glover. Well you have more of

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more of a vocabulary than the movies, I'm sure, But did you have

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an interest in learning You must have
had an interest in learning English to begin

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with. Yeah, well, um, my mom used to be made for

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an English lady, and I usually
spend my summer holiday with my mom when

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when you're working in the house.
So that's how I picked up my injuriests

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about English. Uh huh. So
then yeah, go ahead, no,

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no, go ahead, finish her, finish your thoughts there and then and

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then I got really interested about it. So, um, I'm not a

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good student because I got I have
dyslexia, so that's why I'm not really

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pay attention on school and all that. But then, okay, I have

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a chance that I lost my job
and I spent four months sitting at home

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and doing nothing. So I just
simply pick up a weak chess tape in

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those days, pick up WI chess
tape and just put into a video machine

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and play it. And I don't
even know what the movie is, so

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I just play it. And then
I find out, oh, that's a

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pretty cool movie, and uh,
and then later I find out that was

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called Little Weapon, and then I
just I just love the movie. I

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just love the area in the movie, you know, Los Angeles and the

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sunshine, and totally totally fall not
fall in love with the movie. So

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I just watch it again and again
and again and destroy too will chess tape.

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And then I brought then LD I
brought the an l D and then

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play it again and again again.
So I think maybe maybe maybe more than

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a little bit more than four hundred
times, and I keep watching it every

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year especially during Christmas. How I
picked up I remember every single script in

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the movie. I'm sure you too, including all this this f bomb movie

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or the script everything. I remember
the whole thing. So people just play

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the movie and I don't have to
watch it. I just listened to the

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script. I know, and I
know wish one. They're playing a movie

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one movie for I just love it. Now, can you tell the listening

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audience how you got your what major
have an interest in UFO was? To

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begin with? You had a sighting
when you were young, right, Yeah,

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when I was twelve or thirteen.
I mean, I don't really remember

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the age, but it would thirteen, I guess. And h we finished

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dinner like seven thirty at night,
and we we means me and my dad

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and my two of my sisters,
we went up to the rooftop of the

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building in Hong Kong bos So the
people live in the buildings. So I

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went up to the buildings after after
the dinner and we just hang there.

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We just did We don't really do
anything. Might They usually just bring a

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paper newspaper and read it over there. My sister they're just playing toys in

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the rooftop and myself so suddenly we
saw something floating on the opposite side of

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the mountain, and between the building
and the mountains there is a row,

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you know, they're their taxi and
their their traffics between the mountain and the

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building. So we look overside the
other side. It's probably about one hundred

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feet away. There's a growing,
a growing ball. I mean, I

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can I cannot tell the size because
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size of maybe a bowling, maybe
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don't I can't really tell the size. But it was floating and it's hovering,

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and then it's not making turns,
and all I can say it's growing

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orange color, but sometimes it changed
to yellow, and the ball itself it

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seems like there's something moving inside the
ball, but I don't know what that

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is. So the best way I
can describe it is when you stir a

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coffee or when you stir a cappuccino
with cream, and then you see that

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that the testure, you know,
stirring inside the ball. So that's all

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I can describe. Something moving in
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is. But it change color sometimes
from yellow to orange to red um and

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then the flying pattern is I can
say they change speeds because in making a

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circle um pattern when they when when
they fly, when they're offering, it

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seems like it's searching something. So
sometimes you fly faster, sometimes slow down

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a little bit, and then sometimes
it's fast faster again. So I can't

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tell, but it it you know, something in the middle of it turning,

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it seems like it's going bigger.
So what we can tell is coming

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towards us, but it's not really
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It goes closer to us, and
then it's suddenly going far away again.

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So I was kind of scared,
and I was telling my dad to leave,

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but my dad, he was a
policeman, so he basically just insists

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to stay in and watched the thing
because he don't he doesn't know what it

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is as well. So my my
sister scares and we all four of us

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standing in the rooftop and watch it. These things were like about probably be

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a few minutes, probably five minutes
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the way behind and disappeared behind the
mountain. And that's my first sighting,

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and I got really interested about these
subjects ever since thirteen years old, Wow,

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so um, that is an interesting
sighting. Now, I have heard

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of people talk about sightings um when
they're orbs or some type of like you

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know, globular object, and they've
actually said said that they also saw something

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moving inside. There's a there's a
story. There's a really weird story and

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that I was told on this show
where a woman gave this account to a

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UFO researcher. This is on one
of my shows maybe a year or two

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ago, that the researcher said that
it was like an ORB with something moving

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inside, and all of a sudden
there was a big foot. She said,

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a big foot. You know,
I mean, you know, I

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mean, of course, you don't
know if there's any validity to a sighting

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like that, or the person or
anything like that. This was a secondhand

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story, but I know there's more
than one case that I've heard about the

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orbs that people say it looks like
something inside or something moving, which which

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is kind of fascinating. That did
the thing make any sound that you're aware

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of, No, no signing,
not It's totally silent. And that's why

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my dad, you know, I
remember, I remembered like a few days

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I'll to after the siding and my
my I remember my dad mentioned this to

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my mom during probably dinner or something, and he mentioned that that's the reason

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he feels weird. This thing weird
because it's totally silent. And remember my

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dad used to be a cop and
he after all this training with helicopters and

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all these things, so he supposed
to know what that is, what there

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was, but no, he doesn't
even know what there was, so he

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just feel really weird. And he
talked about it. Is it something the

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family could talk about afterwards or something
he didn't want to talk about. The

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UFO is very weird subjects and back
then, so so my my dad basically

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just mentioned it to my mom,
but he doesn't really spend time to talk

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about it. And I am the
one who can remember the whole thing after

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all these years. My sister,
one of my sisters, kind of have

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a little little memory, but not
a full memory of that. So I'm

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the only one who remember the whole
thing, and and other sisters she totally

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forgot about the whole thing. And
my dad. My dad have a bad

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stroke or many years ago, so
he I don't think he remember anything.

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And there's so many things to do
worry about, you know, in all

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these days, people worry about works, worry about leaving, worry about the

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kids. So uf always the last
thing they always mentioned about. Yeah,

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yeah, well I've said, you
know a number of times said, you

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know, the uf OL topic isn't
that big of a topic in general,

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you know, as far as the
average person day to day, you know,

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because of just what you said,
people worried about their job, They're

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worried about you know, security,
money whatever where it is, and in

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space even or anything to do with
UFOs or anything like that is far from,

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you know, the first thing on
their mind, unless, of course,

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if they have an experience like you
did, you know, and not

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everyone gets interested in it also when
they haven't experience either. You know,

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some people just it was like one
of your sisters that doesn't remember anything,

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or some people don't remember some people
never want to talk about it. But

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but you have gone the other way
and you've had a lot of interest in

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it, and you're you're actually kind
of a UFO guy, a known UFO

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guy over there in China, aren't
you. No, China is a big

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place, um I'm or Hong Kong
or Beijing, Hong Kong is yeah,

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Hong Kong and ongoing in China,
you're running to different system even I mean

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Hong Kong belongs to China these days. But we are running to a totally

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different culture, different system. And
we actually in Hong Kong, we actually

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grow up with a Western culture.
We have chips, we have chips in

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TV, we have six million dollars
men in TV and all that. So,

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so we actually grow up with a
lot of American or Western culture in

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here. Um. So that's why
we think different, we talk different.

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The way we do things is also
also different. Um. Hong Kong,

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China is a big place, and
so many UFO researchers in China and so

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many UFO cases, abduction cases in
all these in China, Hong Kong,

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Hong Kong. We have a big, really huge famous case in one of

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one of the village in Hong Kong
here with a big mothership. More than

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like more than probably a few thousands
of Hong Kong people saw it and it

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lands. It's not really land,
but offering on the top of the building

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during our six pm or seven pm
at night. So it's supposed to be

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a lot of people who get off
work and get off the bus station they

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have sighting. But again UFO subject
is really very minimal. And all these

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days, all these days back then
in Hong Kong, people so much to

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have so many things to worry about, so UFO is the last thing they

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worry. China have many many cases. But I recently I find out the

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reason why the Western culture people and
I like people from England, people from

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the States, they have very difficulty
to find the information about UFO in China

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is probably because the name of the
places and the name of the witness they

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are, they are basically Jedi's name
to the foreigner, so it's very difficult

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to remember it, very difficult to
know the places and all that. So

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des now you mentioned there are a
lot of cases, and I'd like to

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go over that a bit. We
don't necessarily have to right now. But

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one of the things that I wanted
to ask you tonight was in generally now

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you say, Hong Kong's totally different
than the rest of China, or it's

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like its own separate, little Western
type situation going on there. But as

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far as you know, in general, how is the UFO topic perceived in

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China? What does what do the
rest of China for the most part.

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I'm talking about like the government and
the average person when they pay attention to

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the UFO topic. What is it? What is that? Is it?

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Is it taken seriously? Oh?
That's um. That's an interesting point because

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most of the people when I went
to the States and people keep asking me

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about how to China government deal with
the UFO cases? Are they doing with

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it? Did they couple up the
cases? So? Did they do anything

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about it? All I can say
is China government is pretty open up to

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UFO subjects. They basically treated as
science subjects, you know, science scientific

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subjects. So yeah, and as
you know, you know at some of

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the website you can see from the
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subjects as one of the scientific research
section. Uh huh. And do what

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about the military Do they get involved
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military officials, that policemen, they
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of the research. Because we have
a few cases, I mean the biggest,

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huge list name in few few abduction
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from Beijing when they do the research, they have a lot of help.

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They got a lot of help from
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from the police department, from the
government of different places. They are

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helping on the UFO research. Of
course, the research, the report of

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the research, they will send it
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military, not to the public.
But at least they don't really cover that

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up. They don't say aliens or
UFO fake weather balloon, No, they

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don't do that. They actually report
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TV station. They reported on news
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China government or the military they actually
take this UFO subject very seriously and I

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don't think they really cover up or
suppressed the information unless unless is it involveh

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into like legion all that thing,
and then they will they would like to

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put a stop on there. And
and what do you mean by that exactly

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and pertaining to religion, Oh yeah, that's um. You know, when

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we when we talk about the UFOs
um for the China government, they would

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like to stick it into scientifics like
how the flags and what where they come

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from and what's the purpose of it. But you know, in UFO cases

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and a lot of abduction cases that
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you know, people from a normal
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after deciding, after all that thing, after all the contact, especially with

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the Indian, they start changing to
a spiritual person. You know, they're

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start changing to um more. How
can I how how can I describe it?

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You know, they will change their
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They probably become UM, very spiritual
and talks about um. The information

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download to their brain, to their
their head and the messages from the alien

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and all that thing. It becomes
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I think recently, I have a
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in there because they don't really want
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they will treat it as a code, as a How do I explain?

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Because they cut like a coulde and
they always make some example like like the

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Haven Gate and all that cut and
they all involved into alien and involved into

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UFOs, right, So that's why
they they are a little worry about it.

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Um. That's what I can see. That's what I can observe from

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the government and the gesture they're doing, the thing they're writing. So I

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think I think as long as you
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thing you will find. But when
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know, your consciousness, one end
thing they they they worry about about.

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Well okay, well okay, well
uh sounds like a little bit of feedback

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here, feedback. What's going on? Um? Um? Well, anyway,

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when when you said that people had
messages, can you tell me what

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some of those messages were? Do
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were thinking that they were getting for
a message of that part really interests me

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because of some of the ones that
I've heard in the past. Who I

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have any idea of what they were? Well, um, I can tell

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you a little example. But before
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say something because that is, that
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be the real situation in China here. After all, I am just your

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researchers, and I don't I have
a little contact in to the insider,

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but not not to the officials insider. So put it this way, whatever

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I can tell is probably what I
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I mean, that's all I can
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researchers. And their reports and there
and there the conclusion, okay, and

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and then I'm never able to get
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it's so officials in the government they
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They do research, but they don't
release it. Okay. Recently, we

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you know, all these states in
China, government or China have a lot

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of UFO conference or a lot of
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in different places. And they have
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every little province have their research centers.

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you cannot just simply start a group
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then on this part you can tell
the actually government allowed people to do the

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research, especially that one of the
biggest research societies in Beijing. And in

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some of the abduction cases, when
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they have they got help from military
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case, the guys named child and
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another person and other Chinese girls in
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to find somebody when here trying to
find the researchers. The researchers were sent

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from Beijing, and the researchers actually
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research, body body test and make
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All these things are done in the
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when they try to find the girl
he saw in the graph, which is

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a Chinese girl but very sick,
so they do something, some kind of

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suggesture, some kind of experiment on
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same time. It's somewhere really find, really in a distance. So when

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they're trying to find this girl,
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The drawing was done by the police
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actually helping. Wow. And some
of the inside I actually tell yeah,

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some of the actually some of the
inside I actually actually told me the China

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government helping on the research. But
they don't admit it. They just help.

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And then they got the report and
that's it. All right, Well,

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we have to we have to go
to break right now, so we'll

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We'll be right back in just a
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my guest is I never asked him
how to pronounce his last name, Chuck

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Faye, I believe, or something
similar. I'll ask him when he's back

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and we'll be right back after these
messages. Hello, and welcome back to

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the show. I'm Martin Willis,
your host, and we just before the

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break, I was talking to Chuck
Faye, who is my guest, and

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he was telling me about this story
of that the police department getting heavily involved

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and helping this person figure out their
UFO. It sounds like an abduction case

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where they saw someone on the craft
and they actually did a detective like sketch.

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It sounds like is that right,
yes, right, No, the

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detective when you saw a criminal and
you want to you only have the memory

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in your brain. So the policeman
usually draw the face, no, draw

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the sketching on the face and then
put it up on the TV and say

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we wanted this guy right. So
that kind of drawing also done by the

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police department in China during even in
the UFO research, so you can tell,

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you can tell the government actually helped
do a lot of helping on the

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researching. That's that's pretty amazing that
they would take it that serious because I

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think of all of what happens in
the UFO, that the abduction thing is

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the one that I would believe in
this country would be taking taking the least

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amount of with seriousness. Um.
You know, I do believe that.

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Um. I don't think there's any
cases whatsoever that we've had here that involving

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abductions were you know, our police
department got involved that I'm aware of,

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except for the famous ones that you
know of, like Travis Walton. The

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police departments get involved in that,
but not in the way that you're talking

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about. Um, they can.
And also the police department they don't believe

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in the first place, right Yeah, so they usually think the guys lying.

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The guys do something like Travis Wonden, the police even think they murder

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him. Right. So, so
I'm gonna put it this way. Abduction

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cases in all places, all the
countries, they treated seriously, but they

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just the matter off. They tell
you the results or they tell you they're

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so serious about it. Hong Kong
is no different. China is no different.

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I think they treat it really seriously. And they even reported on the

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news. Remember again, this is
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by the government, so they allowed
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public. So you can imagine how
how serious they treat this kind of matter.

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You know, I'm surprised. I'm
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Like you mentioned, you know,
it's a communist country. It's also

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you know, state owned media,
like you're saying, and they actually take

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it serious enough to actually talk about
it when actually you don't have a lot

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of freedom of speech in general there, do you. I mean, can

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you even talk about that? Um, it's getting better, it's getting better

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these days, but before you know, all these attraction cases we're talking about

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like seventies, like eighties, so
the mind the mindset is still pretty pretty

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much closing, I mean, not
like these days these day. China is

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like like like like international countries to
everybody, right, you can see big

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buildings, you can see a lot
of people using iPhone, people using smartphone

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and computers and all this stuff,
but you can you also think about it,

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you know, all these even on
the Cold War, the Russia,

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and they're also very interested about UFO
subjects as well. So I think I

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think China government is always interested about
it. And one of the one of

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the examples I can tell is one
of the governments set like launching center owned

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by the government. Of course,
they launched the sate like they launched the

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rocket. They launched the craft to
travel the moon. That launching center.

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Outside of the launching center, they
have a few statue, a few um

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a before you enter to the center
itself. You know, they usually when

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you watch the movies, the statue
usually like a like a hero, like

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a like the rock Lion. But
they have few grades alien grades with Chinese

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traditional dress as a statue outside of
the satellite launching center. So you can

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imagine. Yeah, they pretty open
up. They pretty open up to the

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subjects. They don't think alien,
they don't think you have faith. They

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believe. I think they believe in
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life outside the earth and we are
not alone. But it's just a manner

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of they don't know anything about it, so they will encourage people, the

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citizen to do research and they encourage
people to report it. Then that's that's

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what I can see. So it's
pretty open up to the subjects from the

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China government. But again, as
long as you don't you don't make it

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too spiritual, and you don't make
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they don't really care about it.
The reason I said it because recently they

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are free a few there there there. There's a UFO conference in Shanghai and

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Beijing just the end of last year, probably December. I attended the Beijing

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money and the China government, the
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Put it this way. We have
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have Lauren Asenhower, we have Michael
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John Dissa. All three of them
can the Beijing and Shanghai and share their

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story, share the the the lecture
UM people are crazy about. People were

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so happy and they were so fascinating
about the information and all that. But

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the case is after the lecture,
one of one of the scientists who pose

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an article in UM one of the
office or website. They're not attacking them,

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but they attack the way they the
word they use. They swap from

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the UFO information to a spiritual perspective, and they they the way they the

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way he wrote it, he's actually, of course he's attacking this kind of

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perspective of spiritual perspective because they were
so worry about UFO information you have for

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research will swamp from scientifics to account
So that's why you can tell they are

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still not too open to completely to
the subject completely, because we all know

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the UFO research. When you when
you research on the UFO subject, when

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you only research, when you only
treat it as scientists, you only get

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only on the outside of the information. You don't never get inside into the

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center of the UFO or the alien
perspective. So that's that's why I think

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they're not completely open up to this. But they they they really interested about

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the UFO things, they want to
know more. But they also at the

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same time, on the same side, they worry about people will be too

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involved into it and then they will
change their mindset and change their way they

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think, and they really worry about
the mid matters. Put it this way,

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is there any other example of anything
you can think of that is similar

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to that, you know, like, do they feel the same way about

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people talking about a ghost sighting or
anything like that. I mean, is

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that a similar attitude. Remember the
ghost subjects, ghosts, the paranormal subjects

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is not allowed in China because they
think it's part of the religion. Is

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that right? Wow? Yes,
well I mentioned that on the other media

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and people think we live funny is
whenever we make a movie in Hong Kong

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here, okay, we make movie, many different kinds of movie. We

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have scientifics movie, we have paranormal
movies in Hong Kong here. So whenever

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we send the movie to the China, we want to launch the movie in

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China, we have to change the
ending, all right, you know I'm

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talking about the paranormal movies, right, So we have to change the ending.

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We have to make it become explainable. For example, the last ending

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could be the actor or the actress
who have been involved into this paranormal's experience.

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He had to wake up on from
the dream. So this is a

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dream and this is not nothing's right, And you have to do something like

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that to change the ending to be
able to launch the movie in China.

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Wow. Yeah, I mentioned this
too many people, and first of all,

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they don't believe that. So we
have different versions on the paranormal movies

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in here, but at the same
time, at the same time, when

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I whenever I go us up to
China, it's a big place, right,

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So when I go to the South
area of China, people are thinking

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pretty much the same way as us
from Hong Kong because we are speaking the

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same language in Cantonese. You know, most of China, Chinese people speak

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Mandarin, but in the South area
and Hong Kong we speak Cantonese, so

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we we're pretty much sharing the same
thing. So the people from South,

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like Guangjaw. People from Guangjaw,
they speak Cantonese and they believe in ghosts,

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They believe in paramormal stuff. But
the people on the north they don't

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because they never really have a chance
to to to or serve this kind of

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information at all. But the more
I researched in the States, the more

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I research, the more contact with
the APTA keys, and the contact is

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myself, And then I realize that
the paranormal things, the paranormal are actually

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quite involved into the UFO phenomenon,
so probably they're all related. So if

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we can only research on the scientific
way, so we can we are only

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basically researching on the aliens craft on
the aliens car right the vehicle, so

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you never really get into the deeper
the center of the whole phenomenon. So

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that's why I think at the same
time, China government may try to involve

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into it, but I think they're
also worried to let the citizens involved into

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it too much. So I think
some kind of contradiction between it and some

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of the higher rank official Maybe maybe
they're fighting to get a deeper church into

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it. But you know, also
a couple in China in China culture,

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uh huh wow. All all very
interesting. Now, is there a like

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the best way I can put that, is there a Chinese roswell? I

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mean, is there some really famous
UFO caseum that topped them all? Yeah,

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I can share. I can share
with you a few cases. One

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of the cases is very important because
it's one of the biggest abduction cases and

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it happens on nineteen seventy seven and
one of the guys he's he's a farmer

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and he's about to get married.
But just before he get married, he

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disappeared. He disappeared in no reason
all right, and people think he may

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00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:59.320
be a runaway, runnaway groom.
But now that's not the case. He

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really want to marry this woman.
So but he disappeared just before the marriage,

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and the people from the village trying
to find him more than ten days

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and nobody, nobody knows where he
went. But the funny thing is one

444
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of the important thing is the people
who live in the village. One of

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the people who receive a telepraph telegraph. But the telegraph which is late and

446
00:39:30.360 --> 00:39:35.599
arrived late because of so many you
know, in the people and those days

447
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in seventy seven, people don't have
very good communications, and even in the

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whole village they share one form,
so nobody knows the telegraph the telegraph arrived

449
00:39:50.000 --> 00:39:57.599
and until one day they find out
this telegraph which is already ten days later,

450
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but the telegraph is was sent the
second day when he disappeared. This

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guy his names Wong. I don't
want to give the whole name because the

452
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whole name means like the Jedi's name
to everybody, so it's hard to remember.

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So I just call him one um
and he disappears the second day the

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telegraph that the telegraph arrived, but
because of the people who don't know about

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the whole thing, and the people
of they're so messing up his chaos in

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the village. So nobody realized the
telegraph arrived. But the telegraph actually sent

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the second day when he disappeared.
I mean, why he disappeared on twenty

458
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seventh of July and the telegraph sent
twenty eighth of July, but nobody knows

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about it, so they only final
ten days later. But the telegraph was

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sent from Shanghai, and this guy
is leaving ube wube is also in places

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so on the north, so it's
quite a far distance. Nobody know how

462
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I mean, Okay, the telegraph
itself is saying this guy Huan was staying

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in Shanghai and he's staying in with
the military. So the official report from

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the military. So this is the
first time it disappeared. But nobody understand

465
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how come this guy can travel all
these far from Wubei to Shanghai in ten

466
00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:40.199
hours And we were talking about like
thousand, a thousand, forty thousand and

467
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one hundred forty miles, right,
So there's no way they can travel that

468
00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:50.039
far. And this guy is a
farmer, he doesn't take helicopters, and

469
00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:55.480
the fastest way he got there needs
twenty two hours, but you know it

470
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just you know, the telegraphs stand
out in an hour. So nobody understand

471
00:42:01.360 --> 00:42:06.920
how he do it. But the
reason he and then he mentioned about it.

472
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He mentioned he's leaving. He's sleeping
and suddenly he wake up by some

473
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noise and he doesn't know. Wow, he doesn't know why when he get

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up, he's leaving. He's supposed
to living in the farm area, really

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quiet area, but when he wake
up in the morning, he just wake

476
00:42:23.559 --> 00:42:30.000
up and saw so many huge buildings
and he doesn't know where he was where

477
00:42:30.039 --> 00:42:32.480
he was, so he keeps asking
people, and people tell him you in

478
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you in Shanghai, and that really
make him crazy, and he doesn't know

479
00:42:38.280 --> 00:42:43.480
what to do, so he go
he went to find the policeman, and

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the policeman sent this telepath telegraph to
where he lived. Then was the first

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the first case, and then the
second case is two months later and he

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this this one go back homelessly again. And then next morning when he get

483
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up, he went to Shanghai a
train station again and he was so surprised.

484
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He saw the clock, the clock
on the building. It was one

485
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o'clock in the midnight, one am. So he doesn't know what to do.

486
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So remember he remember the last time
he went to the camp site and

487
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get help from the military, so
he was thinking, maybe I can do

488
00:43:28.320 --> 00:43:32.880
the same thing. So he trying
to go to the military camp site and

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try to get help. Remember this
is the second time of this happened,

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but he doesn't remember. He doesn't
know. It's suddenly two military guy just

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come up to him and said,
okay, we were supposed to wait you

492
00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:52.880
here, and then they bring brought
him. They brought him to the camp

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site, and Huang suddenly, I
mean this two this two military brank brought

494
00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:07.920
him to the higher level of one
of the general. But Huang realized that

495
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when he saw the general, these
two guys suddenly disappeared just behind him.

496
00:44:13.679 --> 00:44:15.159
He was there, they were,
they were there like a minute ago,

497
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and suddenly they were gone. So
he doesn't know why. But when he

498
00:44:20.440 --> 00:44:24.400
talked to the higher rank of the
general, the general is so surprised.

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00:44:24.400 --> 00:44:28.920
How you get into the camp site? This is the camp site and no

500
00:44:29.119 --> 00:44:31.840
citizens can come in here. How
do you come here? So Huang tell

501
00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:37.480
him two of the military guy brought
me here, and but the general don't

502
00:44:37.480 --> 00:44:44.039
see anyone. He just saw Huang
just going into the camp and talk to

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00:44:44.119 --> 00:44:49.239
him so and and I think,
you know, make everybody surprised. So

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00:44:49.320 --> 00:44:53.119
they give him some money and then
send him home. And that said,

505
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So this is the second second case, the second second time of attacked him.

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A third time of the attraction is
ten days later, and he finished

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00:45:05.880 --> 00:45:10.800
his work. One finishes work and
he feels like dizzy and then feel like

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faint. And then by the time
he get up, he was somewhere in

509
00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:22.719
a hotel or something, and there
were two young people sitting next to him

510
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and tell him, this is this
is land job. It's somewhere really far

511
00:45:28.119 --> 00:45:32.000
away. We way way far away, like a thousand, two hundred miles

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away. But he doesn't know how
he gets there. So all these cases

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happened to this guy, and they
all have the report. They all have

514
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the report and the offical record from
the military, from the police, because

515
00:45:50.400 --> 00:45:55.679
remember he got help from the military
to get home. He telegraph was sent

516
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from a military campsite to his home, to his village. So this is

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all her report, this is all
her record, and nobody knows how he

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gets there. He doesn't fly,
he's just a farmer. He can he

519
00:46:12.679 --> 00:46:15.840
can basically do the farming. He
doesn't know what to do even he feels

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scared in the city. So this
is one of the important cases. And

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the UFO Beijing UFO Research Society actually
said researchers are very famous UFO researchers in

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Beijing. His name's Shan, it's
pretty much the same name to everybody.

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But he studied in these cases and
he actually involved in uh. He went

524
00:46:45.159 --> 00:46:50.760
to a Beijing university and find a
doctor to do the hypnosis to these guys

525
00:46:51.440 --> 00:46:58.559
and trying to find out information.
But during the hypnosis, he actually remembered

526
00:46:58.800 --> 00:47:07.039
two people dressing like a policeman and
fly with him. When I talked about

527
00:47:07.079 --> 00:47:10.760
flying, they're not sitting in the
UFO, they're not sitting in a flying

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00:47:10.800 --> 00:47:16.719
sources. They were flying like Superman. Like Superman. Two of them has

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00:47:16.800 --> 00:47:23.119
got him flying on the air and
then find and then they arrived to somewhere

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00:47:23.719 --> 00:47:29.519
and then they and then after that
he doesn't remember anything, but that is

531
00:47:29.800 --> 00:47:32.960
what they can get from the hyoses. So this is one of the UFO

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00:47:34.039 --> 00:47:39.119
abduction cases in China. And of
course back then they don't know much about

533
00:47:38.639 --> 00:47:44.480
the alien and all the things you
are talking about. Nineteen seventy seven.

534
00:47:45.639 --> 00:47:51.360
They will treat this as really mystery
cases. But they have report, they

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00:47:51.360 --> 00:47:57.039
have record, they have all the
document thing store all these days. Even

536
00:47:57.119 --> 00:48:01.480
the TV broadcast this story as well. So later on when we more and

537
00:48:01.599 --> 00:48:07.559
more ufful cases appear and this one
is also treated as one of the alien

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00:48:07.599 --> 00:48:10.880
apduction case. That is quite the
story. I'm going to get more into

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00:48:10.920 --> 00:48:15.920
that. We're ready for our second
and final break. So my guest is

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00:48:16.119 --> 00:48:20.840
Chuck Faye, and we're going to
be going to break. We'll be right

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00:48:20.840 --> 00:48:25.280
back right after these messages hanging there. All right, welcome back. This

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00:48:25.360 --> 00:48:30.159
is Martin Willis with podcast UFO,
and my guest is a Check Faye.

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And we were talking about this very
strange and interesting case. And to think

544
00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:43.519
that the person that I don't know
if it was some type of abduction or

545
00:48:43.519 --> 00:48:50.360
whatever, kept landing in these little
towns far away somehow. And did you

546
00:48:50.400 --> 00:48:54.639
say, Chuck, did you say
that it appeared to be like police officers

547
00:48:54.719 --> 00:49:04.199
or something that was And during his
regression hypnotism, did he say, what

548
00:49:04.440 --> 00:49:08.159
was our military? What was that? Again? Well, remember he is

549
00:49:08.199 --> 00:49:14.239
a farmer, so he doesn't really
can tell whether the policeman or their the

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00:49:14.480 --> 00:49:21.800
military but he can tell these two
guys wearing uniform during the hypnosis. Now

551
00:49:21.800 --> 00:49:25.239
the hypnosis, who he doesn't remember
how he gets to the different cities right,

552
00:49:25.280 --> 00:49:30.719
how he go to a far distance. So during the hypnosis, he

553
00:49:30.920 --> 00:49:37.360
remember flying together with two persons,
two gentlemen, and these two gentlemen are

554
00:49:37.400 --> 00:49:43.719
wearing uniforms. He remember probably police
department, from the police department or from

555
00:49:43.719 --> 00:49:49.400
the military. He doesn't really tell, but he remember they're wearing uniforms.

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00:49:49.480 --> 00:49:54.000
And you know, it's hard to
believe for most of the people. They've

557
00:49:54.199 --> 00:49:59.039
the old people all think he's crazy. But remember when we look at the

558
00:49:59.280 --> 00:50:05.480
UFO case abduction cases in the States
or the other countries. So many times

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00:50:05.519 --> 00:50:13.400
the after keys of contact with some
of the military person even they're lying on

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00:50:13.480 --> 00:50:17.760
the examination tables with the grays,
you know, their examination on them,

561
00:50:19.199 --> 00:50:24.800
they still see some military involved and
they saw people who wearing uniform from behind.

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00:50:25.440 --> 00:50:30.559
So it's pretty much the same situation
he remembered, you know, with

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contact with military, and they brought
him fly all the way. So I

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when I have in mind and what
the most of the youthful researches in mind

565
00:50:40.480 --> 00:50:47.480
about these cases, is he being
abducted but probably their beings who abduct him

566
00:50:47.960 --> 00:50:52.599
doesn't want to scare him, you
know. So he's a farmer after all,

567
00:50:52.719 --> 00:50:54.519
you know. They don't want to
show their big eyes, a big

568
00:50:54.559 --> 00:51:01.960
heady, you know, or maybe
the reptilian faces. So they probably let

569
00:51:02.039 --> 00:51:08.679
him see a policeman or probably let
him see military officers, so at least

570
00:51:08.760 --> 00:51:15.440
he won't feel scared, you know. And back their nineteen seventies and seventies

571
00:51:15.519 --> 00:51:21.360
people from the village, people from
the countryside. They also believe that the

572
00:51:22.159 --> 00:51:27.559
officials, like the chair military or
the policeman, they are helping the citizen,

573
00:51:28.239 --> 00:51:31.440
right, so I think they would
give him a piece of mind when

574
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they fly with him. And the
funny thing is a lot of UFOL abduction

575
00:51:37.400 --> 00:51:42.639
cases, not only this one,
but also the other two major famous abduction

576
00:51:42.719 --> 00:51:46.960
cases. They don't actually get into
the craft. They fly. They fly

577
00:51:47.119 --> 00:51:52.719
like Superman, you know. Another
and yeah, so many cases like this

578
00:51:52.960 --> 00:52:00.239
the other abduction cases. Also,
he remember these two gentlemen wearing military unifm

579
00:52:00.320 --> 00:52:05.119
but flying together with him, and
he remembered flying on the top of the

580
00:52:05.199 --> 00:52:12.840
trees. So I think this is
one funny phenomenon in China's abduction cases.

581
00:52:13.400 --> 00:52:16.719
And then not many people actually saw
the craft except one of the guys his

582
00:52:16.880 --> 00:52:23.559
names Shall Shall actually saw the craft
stop a park in the forest. And

583
00:52:23.679 --> 00:52:30.159
he remember the craft looks like a
pink bomb paddle, so he also destroyed

584
00:52:31.119 --> 00:52:35.840
a pink bam paddle with a circle
with a little handle on the back.

585
00:52:36.280 --> 00:52:40.519
But it's a huge craft stopping inside
the woods and all that. He actually

586
00:52:40.559 --> 00:52:45.559
get into the wood, getting into
the crafts himself. And remember I told

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00:52:45.559 --> 00:52:50.760
you he said when he get in
there, he saw a very sick Chinese

588
00:52:50.800 --> 00:52:55.800
girl sitting in the crowd himself.
So the alien brought him and want him

589
00:52:55.840 --> 00:53:02.840
to do some helping or maybe some
killing to this young girl. And then

590
00:53:02.880 --> 00:53:07.400
they released both of them. So
the reason they brought child child is probably

591
00:53:07.400 --> 00:53:15.840
he knows a little bit of medical
Chinese medical methods, so he brought him

592
00:53:15.840 --> 00:53:22.039
to trying to cure this Chinese girl. And then after this abduction and the

593
00:53:22.119 --> 00:53:25.199
story opened up to the public and
the Beijing you of a research society is

594
00:53:25.239 --> 00:53:32.440
saying the same guy to find this
child and do some testimony from him,

595
00:53:32.800 --> 00:53:38.400
and then they went to the military
hospital to do him knows us and he

596
00:53:38.480 --> 00:53:43.320
tells all this story. The funny
thing is they're trying to find this Chinese

597
00:53:43.360 --> 00:53:49.920
sick girl because they knew they found
a very quite a big distance between his

598
00:53:50.039 --> 00:53:53.800
home and the way at the place
he saw this craft and this Chinese girl.

599
00:53:54.400 --> 00:54:00.280
So they're trying to find these girls. They bring child to a police

600
00:54:00.280 --> 00:54:06.199
station and the policeman helped him to
draw the faces and they actually fund actually

601
00:54:06.239 --> 00:54:10.079
found this girl and this girl grow
up now. And the funny thing is

602
00:54:10.119 --> 00:54:14.920
this girl used to be very sick, and the family of the girl said

603
00:54:15.039 --> 00:54:20.679
she's very sick, but so just
totally recover in just one day. And

604
00:54:20.840 --> 00:54:23.480
next day he get up to get
up, she's completely healed. I mean,

605
00:54:23.519 --> 00:54:28.239
all these signals are gone. But
they find a little scar on the

606
00:54:28.280 --> 00:54:32.679
back of his help, of this
girl's help. This is where they do

607
00:54:32.800 --> 00:54:39.000
the expanded the experiment in the craft
with child and this girl together. So

608
00:54:39.320 --> 00:54:45.599
the alien actually brings child to heal
this girl. And this story have a

609
00:54:45.679 --> 00:54:52.559
full report from the UFO research community
and the military record and the policeman record

610
00:54:52.639 --> 00:54:59.400
as well. So another official cases
in China. Wow, now did that

611
00:54:59.639 --> 00:55:05.559
did the farmer, the guy there
that kept planning in the different towns,

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00:55:05.800 --> 00:55:10.119
did he end up getting married after
all? Well, the story never tell,

613
00:55:10.239 --> 00:55:15.800
But what I was told is he
was a farmer. Yeah, he

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00:55:15.920 --> 00:55:21.800
only knows farming for his whole life, but after the abduction, he somehow

615
00:55:21.880 --> 00:55:29.920
he got his mind some kind of
knowledge so he can do invention. I

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00:55:29.960 --> 00:55:34.280
don't know what kind of invention,
but probably involved into farming. But he's

617
00:55:34.360 --> 00:55:37.559
just a farmer and do all this
old traditional way to farm. And he

618
00:55:37.719 --> 00:55:45.000
certainly know how to invent something and
went some equipment to probably help him farming,

619
00:55:45.199 --> 00:55:50.599
help him more faster or easier way
to do the farming. I think.

620
00:55:50.639 --> 00:55:58.039
I think that is some kind of
brain developed as well. During a

621
00:55:58.039 --> 00:56:02.079
lot of cases, a lot of
induction cases, the guy have personality change,

622
00:56:02.159 --> 00:56:07.239
they have the knowledgeing, they have
knowledge download to their brain. I

623
00:56:07.320 --> 00:56:12.000
think pretty much the same thing happened
to this guy. Interesting. Interesting.

624
00:56:12.280 --> 00:56:17.840
Now in the chat room, um
Bob wanted to know if there's any Chinese

625
00:56:19.039 --> 00:56:22.039
military cases like the tic Tac toe
I mean, I'm sorry, the tic

626
00:56:22.159 --> 00:56:29.280
Tac tictak Ufoum office San Diego.
Are there any military cases that are aware

627
00:56:29.280 --> 00:56:35.280
of where there was a military encounter, any cases like that. I definitely

628
00:56:35.320 --> 00:56:42.559
believe so, and uh, I
can share one of the cases happening two

629
00:56:42.360 --> 00:56:49.920
thousand eighteen, which is last year. Uh. There there is a C

630
00:56:50.239 --> 00:56:54.840
one C one airport. One International
airport is away a little bit way on

631
00:56:54.920 --> 00:57:05.199
the north Um. The air broad
shutdown one day. People who's yelling and

632
00:57:05.360 --> 00:57:09.480
screaming and all that because they're angry
because of the airport shut down, like

633
00:57:10.199 --> 00:57:15.199
eighteen hours as far as I remember. The reason they shut it down,

634
00:57:16.039 --> 00:57:25.079
the official reason is that they're doing
military experiment or military research or something,

635
00:57:25.119 --> 00:57:29.920
so they have to shut down the
airport. But the point is there are

636
00:57:30.079 --> 00:57:35.840
military guys, their soldiers in the
airport and they're in a hurry to fly

637
00:57:35.920 --> 00:57:40.360
back to Beijing to report something.
So the reason, the real reason they

638
00:57:40.360 --> 00:57:46.360
shut down is because some of the
some of the passenger who've been stuck in

639
00:57:46.400 --> 00:57:54.079
the building of the airport. They
actually film a UFO flying uffering on the

640
00:57:54.159 --> 00:58:00.800
airport itself, so we have military
witness. But I think I think the

641
00:58:00.880 --> 00:58:07.079
military actually involved into the study.
But the case is again, when when

642
00:58:07.079 --> 00:58:09.599
this case are studied by the military, they never really open up the case.

643
00:58:10.199 --> 00:58:14.719
The more you can. The only
thing you can tell is it reports

644
00:58:14.800 --> 00:58:22.440
it on the TV on the new
section again on the Officials TV broadcast station.

645
00:58:22.719 --> 00:58:27.280
So so I think, I think
the military do actually involve into this

646
00:58:27.440 --> 00:58:30.480
kind of research, but they never
really open up the story. When they

647
00:58:30.559 --> 00:58:35.480
decided not to open up the story, there is no way you can find

648
00:58:35.480 --> 00:58:39.920
out unless you know the whistle blower
from the military itself. But it's really

649
00:58:40.079 --> 00:58:46.239
rare in China because UM, yes, go ahead, Now, what year

650
00:58:46.280 --> 00:58:52.840
did you say that in particular happened? Um. I think it's too that

651
00:58:52.039 --> 00:58:55.320
I don't have the data right now, but I remember there's that two thousand,

652
00:58:55.480 --> 00:59:02.239
two thousand, not so many UFO
hovering in the airport. Yeah,

653
00:59:02.280 --> 00:59:07.159
because we have Paul Ja in the
chat room, I was asking if you

654
00:59:07.400 --> 00:59:12.800
could talk about now, I don't
know how to pronounce it, the Zayoshan

655
00:59:13.440 --> 00:59:19.519
airport shut down in two thousand and
ten. It's a it's says the airport

656
00:59:19.599 --> 00:59:27.639
starts with that X I A O
S H A n uh. I know

657
00:59:27.719 --> 00:59:32.480
you have to translate that into Chinese. But um, but um, I

658
00:59:32.599 --> 00:59:38.360
have heard of the airport airport shutdowns
um in China, But I thought it

659
00:59:38.440 --> 00:59:42.400
was like a year ago, and
I wasn't familiar with this two thousand and

660
00:59:42.480 --> 00:59:46.480
ten one that that that Paul posted
in the chat room. Well, I

661
00:59:46.519 --> 00:59:51.679
think we have quite a few times
the airport shut down because of the UFO.

662
00:59:52.559 --> 00:59:58.639
UM, but one of the most
the case because I remember I mentioned

663
00:59:58.639 --> 01:00:01.719
this on the other the other media. Um, it was two thousand and

664
01:00:01.800 --> 01:00:07.320
eighteen. But I deeply believe if
somebody mentioned about two thousand and ten,

665
01:00:07.119 --> 01:00:14.039
it happens before. No, two
thousand and eighteen is not. It's definitely

666
01:00:14.239 --> 01:00:20.000
not the first time. I think
it happens before many times, um,

667
01:00:20.159 --> 01:00:22.960
but nobody really talks about it.
And you know, trying to China people,

668
01:00:23.079 --> 01:00:29.440
you know, they're having a development
the society, you know, the

669
01:00:30.679 --> 01:00:37.760
financials and the politicals and technology or
everything is growing up. So UFOs the

670
01:00:37.920 --> 01:00:44.800
last thing they really focus on.
So we have report, we have people

671
01:00:44.960 --> 01:00:50.079
told us, um they saw the
uf when the shut down. But the

672
01:00:50.119 --> 01:00:54.480
point is they don't really care about
it. They don't really do a lot

673
01:00:54.480 --> 01:00:59.599
of research on it. So as
long as the airport reopened again and people

674
01:00:59.639 --> 01:01:01.880
go back to their normal life and
for people will forget about the whole thing.

675
01:01:02.800 --> 01:01:08.320
Yeah yeah, UM. So are
there any other the case you mentioned,

676
01:01:08.360 --> 01:01:15.400
Are there any other cases that that
are real big one? At this

677
01:01:15.519 --> 01:01:22.159
point, Well, let me why
don't we share the story in China in

678
01:01:22.199 --> 01:01:25.320
Hong Kong. Okay, yeah,
yeah, its Hong Kong is part of

679
01:01:25.360 --> 01:01:31.639
China as well. But when it
happens happened in nineteen eighty five, like

680
01:01:31.679 --> 01:01:38.159
the one I mentioned, that's huge
mothership. Um is a huge one.

681
01:01:38.599 --> 01:01:43.000
So we remember I told you,
in Hong Kong people we are living in

682
01:01:43.039 --> 01:01:45.840
buildings. Not many people live in
the house. We live in buildings and

683
01:01:46.440 --> 01:01:52.079
small buildings. More flag in one
flag or we leave five people or five

684
01:01:52.199 --> 01:01:58.400
family in the four hundred square feet
area. So it's pretty tight, you

685
01:01:58.400 --> 01:02:02.960
know in Hong Kong. Well,
um, I remember these places is named

686
01:02:02.960 --> 01:02:09.960
Aberdeen. Aberdeen is famous places in
the south area of Hong Kong, and

687
01:02:10.800 --> 01:02:16.079
the people who live their facing the
sea basing the ocean. Um one of

688
01:02:16.280 --> 01:02:21.840
the night around six thirty, around
seven thirty put it this way. Then

689
01:02:22.000 --> 01:02:28.519
thirty is people who are supposed to
finish work and go home. And one

690
01:02:28.519 --> 01:02:31.719
of the village one of the X
stage put it this way as state buildings,

691
01:02:32.159 --> 01:02:36.159
people who live there. And one
of the women who lived there when

692
01:02:36.239 --> 01:02:39.679
the mom told him to close the
window because of two windy outside. So

693
01:02:39.800 --> 01:02:46.559
when she went out to close the
window, she saw a huge he mentioned

694
01:02:46.719 --> 01:02:53.239
is she mentioned is about the size
of a stadium, a huge UFO stopping

695
01:02:53.440 --> 01:03:00.599
offering in the middle of the air, and this this crime is actually stopped

696
01:03:00.800 --> 01:03:08.079
and huffering about a building above the
building, and it was so windy outside.

697
01:03:08.440 --> 01:03:15.199
She remembered she saw thousands of colorful
lights at at the bottom of the

698
01:03:15.239 --> 01:03:22.519
craft. And she remember people who
walk on the street and who also look

699
01:03:22.639 --> 01:03:27.920
up to the sky that probably like
hundred or probably thousand people who saw it.

700
01:03:28.679 --> 01:03:31.960
Now, the funny thing is people
always think this is only one cases

701
01:03:32.119 --> 01:03:38.360
and one one crisis in Aberdeen,
but people don't know. According to mine

702
01:03:38.440 --> 01:03:44.960
investigate, people don't know this craft
actually arrived more than two times or three

703
01:03:45.000 --> 01:03:51.320
times, because once it is arrived
in the midnight. I remember this guy

704
01:03:51.840 --> 01:03:57.320
who called me and told me he
supposed to He was sleeping and then he

705
01:03:57.440 --> 01:04:01.840
suddenly feeled the building is shaking.
At first he thought it's a earthquake,

706
01:04:01.960 --> 01:04:08.079
so he get up. He remembered
something, you know, something like decoration

707
01:04:08.239 --> 01:04:11.880
things that hang on the walls,
you know, fell fell down on the

708
01:04:11.880 --> 01:04:16.679
ground because of shaking. It's too
shaky, So he went out to the

709
01:04:16.719 --> 01:04:19.920
buildings. He went out to the
window and tried to look what's happening.

710
01:04:20.599 --> 01:04:25.920
But when he went out, he
saw the people on the opposite side of

711
01:04:25.920 --> 01:04:30.079
the building. On the opposite building. Remember that was like one or two

712
01:04:30.599 --> 01:04:35.960
am. It was quiet and people
were sleeping. All the lights are out,

713
01:04:36.159 --> 01:04:40.440
and he remembered the opposite side of
the building. People look out the

714
01:04:40.480 --> 01:04:45.599
window and pointing at the window,
pointing out the sky. They pointing to

715
01:04:45.760 --> 01:04:50.199
the opposite side, which is the
building he lived. So he went out

716
01:04:50.199 --> 01:04:55.679
to the stairway and they have a
better look. On the top wheel of

717
01:04:55.679 --> 01:05:01.960
the building, he saw hexagon shape, huge mother ship. Also he described

718
01:05:02.000 --> 01:05:06.320
as big as a stadium. Hoffering
on top of the building. But that

719
01:05:06.519 --> 01:05:11.480
was one PM. The cases I
mentioned before, it is six or seven

720
01:05:11.519 --> 01:05:15.840
eight seven pm. Now this is
one or two am, so there are

721
01:05:16.199 --> 01:05:21.679
at least two cases. But they're
all stopping in the same building. That's

722
01:05:21.800 --> 01:05:25.519
the funny thing it is. You
know, on the state they have many

723
01:05:25.559 --> 01:05:30.159
buildings, but the uf always hoffering
at the same building. Nobody knows why.

724
01:05:31.039 --> 01:05:35.400
And then after a few years and
then another guy who called me and

725
01:05:35.440 --> 01:05:39.000
he said, no, no,
no, all these cases are not right

726
01:05:39.119 --> 01:05:45.239
because the time I saw the UFO
is at four am. It's about two

727
01:05:45.639 --> 01:05:50.000
about the sun the sunset the sunrise. So he said, this guy is

728
01:05:50.000 --> 01:05:53.800
a taxi driver. He said,
I go out to work, you know,

729
01:05:54.280 --> 01:05:58.920
even before the sky alights, before
the sky is still dark. He

730
01:05:59.079 --> 01:06:01.239
went out to work. He went
out work. As soon as he get

731
01:06:01.320 --> 01:06:09.880
into the taxi into the cab,
and he saw these huge UFOL craft hovering

732
01:06:10.199 --> 01:06:16.679
on the top of the building with
a kind of a spotlight pointing to the

733
01:06:16.840 --> 01:06:23.199
rooftop of the building. But also
happened in the same building. Nobody knows

734
01:06:23.239 --> 01:06:28.280
why. It's uf A offering a
few times in this Aberdeen area, but

735
01:06:28.440 --> 01:06:32.800
they also offering at the same building. There's like more than like six or

736
01:06:32.880 --> 01:06:38.920
seven building in the same area,
but it only happened only hovering on one

737
01:06:39.000 --> 01:06:44.599
building. So this is one of
the cases. And this is widely report

738
01:06:44.679 --> 01:06:48.400
in Hong Kong here and it's one
of the very famous case. It just

739
01:06:48.599 --> 01:06:56.400
it even recorded in the Roswell uf
Old Museum. The case is also reporting

740
01:06:56.639 --> 01:07:00.360
Roswell, you have a museum.
So it's a famous case in China,

741
01:07:00.440 --> 01:07:06.280
in Hong Kong, and one of
the most famous case. And during all

742
01:07:06.320 --> 01:07:12.280
this year when I do the research
and my own program, and people who

743
01:07:12.360 --> 01:07:16.239
come up to me and told me, they've been abducted by aliens. You

744
01:07:16.280 --> 01:07:19.800
know. One of the women.
His name is Ma. We told him

745
01:07:19.800 --> 01:07:25.119
Ma. We call him, we
call her Ma. She wrote me an

746
01:07:25.159 --> 01:07:30.679
email at two thousand and twelve,
and I was writing a book. I

747
01:07:30.719 --> 01:07:32.840
don't know what to put in there. I don't want to put just a

748
01:07:32.920 --> 01:07:38.239
simple, rful story into the book. So I was kind of stuck and

749
01:07:38.280 --> 01:07:41.480
I was waiting. I was writing
in front of the computer. And I

750
01:07:41.559 --> 01:07:46.360
remember one of the lunch one of
the afternoon, after my lunch, and

751
01:07:46.519 --> 01:07:53.480
I suddenly received an email and from
this lady's Ma. She just told me

752
01:07:53.599 --> 01:07:58.559
she thinks she's crazy and she really
needs help, and she asking whether she

753
01:07:58.679 --> 01:08:02.199
can meet me. So I don't
know her, so I sent her back

754
01:08:02.239 --> 01:08:04.679
an email. I say, can
you leave me a phone number so we

755
01:08:04.760 --> 01:08:10.960
can talk, And she replied the
email like three seconds with the phone number.

756
01:08:11.000 --> 01:08:15.239
So you can tell she's actually waiting, desperately waiting next to the computers

757
01:08:15.560 --> 01:08:20.000
wait for the response. So I
call her right away, and she cried

758
01:08:20.760 --> 01:08:25.800
right away, really crying. So
I told I answer her what happened?

759
01:08:26.159 --> 01:08:30.079
She tells, She keeps telling me
she saw all this picture when she get

760
01:08:30.159 --> 01:08:35.000
up the pictures in her brain.
All this image suddenly fresh up a lot

761
01:08:35.039 --> 01:08:39.800
of like flash bag in her brain, but she doesn't know. She remember

762
01:08:39.880 --> 01:08:45.319
sawing some of the hand. She
remember saw the hand covering her face.

763
01:08:46.399 --> 01:08:54.079
The hand I remember the first time
she mentioned a hands like a chicken feet

764
01:08:54.920 --> 01:08:59.760
but covering her face. And she
was scared. And the next image she

765
01:09:00.119 --> 01:09:05.600
remember is somewhere insire hanger. And
then next in from next flashbacks, next

766
01:09:05.640 --> 01:09:11.920
image she remember is a lot of
shadow, a lot of people walking around,

767
01:09:12.640 --> 01:09:15.439
but they are not really people.
They're not really human, you know,

768
01:09:15.600 --> 01:09:20.000
some human noise walking around her.
And she was so scared. So

769
01:09:20.159 --> 01:09:26.640
we we met a few days later. And the reason I want to met

770
01:09:26.720 --> 01:09:30.840
up because I want to make sure
she's not crazy and the way she talks

771
01:09:30.039 --> 01:09:35.199
is completely normal. As soon as
we talked about the UFO, she cried.

772
01:09:35.800 --> 01:09:44.239
So we after two months, we
brought her to a hypnosis therapy and

773
01:09:45.159 --> 01:09:50.399
she is this hypnosis therapy is is
a very open mind. Lady um.

774
01:09:51.199 --> 01:09:55.359
She promised to do it. She
never really do that before, but she

775
01:09:55.439 --> 01:10:00.760
promised to try. And during the
hypnosis, this woman remembered the missing time.

776
01:10:00.880 --> 01:10:04.960
This woman remember what happened during the
missing time? Oh, I never

777
01:10:05.039 --> 01:10:11.880
mentioned about the missing time is she
was like a potato couch who didn't like

778
01:10:12.960 --> 01:10:17.119
seeing the solver and watching TV.
That's what she does every day. Um.

779
01:10:17.520 --> 01:10:25.800
She remember one day morning watching TV
and a program at home and it

780
01:10:26.039 --> 01:10:30.560
was the program replay at eleven thirty
in the morning. So she loved this

781
01:10:30.760 --> 01:10:34.399
drama. So she keep watching it
and keep watching it, and suddenly she

782
01:10:34.560 --> 01:10:41.039
remember there were some lights flashing into
the window from outside, so she went

783
01:10:41.079 --> 01:10:44.880
out. She went to the window
and tried to take a look. What's

784
01:10:45.039 --> 01:10:51.920
flashing the window and then she saw
a metal play, like a rectangular red

785
01:10:53.079 --> 01:10:59.439
metal play hanging hovering in the sky. Nothing on the top hanging this this

786
01:10:59.600 --> 01:11:04.279
metal, but it's like a big
piece of rectangle metal and the corner of

787
01:11:04.359 --> 01:11:10.760
the red the metal have a red
light flashing to the window. So she

788
01:11:10.880 --> 01:11:14.439
was kind of she feels weird,
she doesn't know what. She tried to

789
01:11:14.479 --> 01:11:17.520
figure out what that was, but
the light flashing to her, so she

790
01:11:17.640 --> 01:11:21.399
was kind of scared and hiding on
the corner of the window. Tried to

791
01:11:21.439 --> 01:11:26.920
take a good pre real but also
you know a little bit like scaring and

792
01:11:27.359 --> 01:11:30.760
looking and hiding, looking and hiding
again. So after like two minutes,

793
01:11:31.039 --> 01:11:36.640
these things disappear, so she realized, okay, let's disappear. She doesn't

794
01:11:36.640 --> 01:11:42.119
know what that was, but she
she just doesn't care. So she went

795
01:11:42.159 --> 01:11:45.680
back to watch the TV and realized
the programmer no longer playing. It was

796
01:11:45.800 --> 01:11:51.600
playing a program in the afternoon,
so she looked at the clock. She

797
01:11:51.720 --> 01:11:58.119
realized, you had three hours missing, and that's tricker. Her really scared

798
01:11:58.159 --> 01:12:00.680
about the whole thing. And then
the next morning she got all these pictures

799
01:12:00.880 --> 01:12:04.119
or all these emage and then she
decided to send me an email. She

800
01:12:04.159 --> 01:12:09.920
doesn't know me at all. She
just asked her friend what should I do?

801
01:12:10.079 --> 01:12:13.319
What should I do? Right?
Have something happened like this? And

802
01:12:13.479 --> 01:12:15.000
her friend told him, Okay,
you can try to write an email to

803
01:12:15.119 --> 01:12:20.079
Chuck Fay because Chuck Fay do a
lot of UFO research in Hong Kong,

804
01:12:20.680 --> 01:12:25.399
and I'm lucky enough to get onto
local TV, so people knows me.

805
01:12:25.800 --> 01:12:30.239
So he that's why she should find
me, to find my contact from Facebook

806
01:12:30.640 --> 01:12:32.760
and send me in an email.
And that's the story after that. And

807
01:12:32.800 --> 01:12:38.159
then during the he knows this,
she remembered during the missing time, she

808
01:12:38.319 --> 01:12:45.600
actually walked through the wall and the
window and standing in the middle of the

809
01:12:45.680 --> 01:12:50.439
airs. You remember a red car
and a taxi behind I mean, I

810
01:12:50.479 --> 01:12:55.000
mean down below her feet. She
was standing in the middle of the air,

811
01:12:55.079 --> 01:12:59.960
and she looked up. She saw
the craft, not the red tangle

812
01:13:00.079 --> 01:13:03.479
played, but a craft, a
uf a craft like a traditional craft on

813
01:13:03.560 --> 01:13:08.800
the top of her head. And
then the next memory she got and she

814
01:13:08.920 --> 01:13:14.000
was already lying on the table.
She didn't get naked, she just wearing

815
01:13:14.039 --> 01:13:20.840
what she wear. But she remember
a big metal boxes all the way,

816
01:13:21.239 --> 01:13:26.800
you know, sticking to her belly, a boxes. She doesn't remember terrible

817
01:13:27.199 --> 01:13:31.880
experiment and painful and people, the
alien, no punging, the pin in

818
01:13:31.960 --> 01:13:35.520
her head or all these things.
She doesn't remember all these things, but

819
01:13:35.640 --> 01:13:41.039
she remembered the whole time she was
inside the craft. There's a big piece

820
01:13:41.039 --> 01:13:45.399
of metal box sticking like a bout, sticking on her belly area. And

821
01:13:45.479 --> 01:13:54.039
she remember the faces of the humanoid. They were shot, but they were

822
01:13:54.079 --> 01:13:59.800
not graces. They have human eyes
like the eyes with the whiten the pupils,

823
01:14:00.119 --> 01:14:04.239
black area um, but they're kind
of bigger head with a lot of

824
01:14:04.319 --> 01:14:11.760
winkle on their face. They're not
like a traditional gray with big eyes.

825
01:14:11.800 --> 01:14:16.439
They have small eyes like human but
they were shot and they have winkle face,

826
01:14:16.520 --> 01:14:24.000
and they kind of everybody, every
all all these beings that looks like

827
01:14:24.079 --> 01:14:30.399
the same. I remember she draw
me the sketching and all these beings wearing

828
01:14:31.760 --> 01:14:40.199
a black or dark gray dress with
a hook so they can cover their face.

829
01:14:40.279 --> 01:14:45.479
Sometimes. Well, all these things
happen. She changed completely after all

830
01:14:45.560 --> 01:14:50.199
this year. Even now, she
still have a lot of downloads information downloads

831
01:14:50.199 --> 01:14:55.760
to her brain, and she can
tell futures, you know, she can

832
01:14:55.800 --> 01:15:00.560
tell me when my book will finish
and launch out. We he's supposed to

833
01:15:00.560 --> 01:15:04.279
finish our book on July. I
was writing the book on March. We're

834
01:15:04.279 --> 01:15:08.439
supposed to finish the book on July, but I won't be able to finish

835
01:15:08.520 --> 01:15:12.359
it. And the first few days
she contact me, she said, no,

836
01:15:12.439 --> 01:15:15.520
your book will not finish. Your
book will be finished by the middle

837
01:15:15.560 --> 01:15:18.520
of December. I said, how
do you know? Said, they told

838
01:15:18.560 --> 01:15:23.239
me. They want me to tell
you your book will only be launched by

839
01:15:23.279 --> 01:15:28.439
the middle of December. That's really
what's happening, because I finished my book

840
01:15:28.439 --> 01:15:31.359
by November and of November, and
then they send it to the mainland to

841
01:15:31.479 --> 01:15:35.680
China to print it. And by
the time the book arrived, the bookstore.

842
01:15:35.720 --> 01:15:40.319
It was eighteenth of December. I
said, how do you know that?

843
01:15:40.720 --> 01:15:43.039
She said, she said, I
don't know, but they told me.

844
01:15:43.439 --> 01:15:46.279
They told me, they tell me
to tell you your book will not

845
01:15:46.359 --> 01:15:51.760
finish. And then after a few
years, she seems like she can tell

846
01:15:53.359 --> 01:15:57.319
what's about to happen in the future. So I mean, I mean,

847
01:15:57.359 --> 01:16:00.680
I don't know how, but this
guy, these ladies come quickly changed.

848
01:16:00.720 --> 01:16:08.680
Now she's not watching TV anymore.
So she's focusing on quantum physics, focusing

849
01:16:08.720 --> 01:16:16.239
on cosmical physics, is focusing on
religion, focusing on the society and the

850
01:16:16.359 --> 01:16:25.039
human life, focusing on the conspiracy, focusing on animal rights. So I

851
01:16:25.039 --> 01:16:29.319
don't know how to change all this. And I tried to get the proof.

852
01:16:29.680 --> 01:16:32.079
You know, quantum physics. I
know nothing about quantum physics. So,

853
01:16:32.199 --> 01:16:36.439
by the way she finished tell me
what she knew, I tried to

854
01:16:36.479 --> 01:16:42.520
get the proof from a professor from
a university, and this professor told me

855
01:16:42.640 --> 01:16:48.960
whatever she said is completely completely in
the book. So I don't know how

856
01:16:49.039 --> 01:16:53.439
she got all this information. But
she told me, keep telling me all

857
01:16:53.479 --> 01:17:00.000
this information download from the alien who
at her. That's something I can like

858
01:17:00.039 --> 01:17:06.039
explain. That's interesting. I had
a conversation with Kathy Marden. You know,

859
01:17:06.119 --> 01:17:12.039
she's a niece of you know she
is, Yeah, and she this

860
01:17:12.119 --> 01:17:14.920
was a few years ago, and
she said that, um, you know

861
01:17:14.960 --> 01:17:18.600
a number of people are saying that
they that are being abducted that say they

862
01:17:19.000 --> 01:17:23.960
they feel like they go right through
the walls. And she said, and

863
01:17:24.039 --> 01:17:27.840
which I think is pretty bizarre,
you know for sure. And she said

864
01:17:27.840 --> 01:17:31.560
that she's talked to physicists and said, at a certain vibration, you know,

865
01:17:31.680 --> 01:17:35.079
something like this can happen, which
is uh, I don't know.

866
01:17:35.359 --> 01:17:40.680
That's it's pretty wild stories, but
it's it's still interesting. I'm not sure

867
01:17:40.720 --> 01:17:44.479
if there's actually anything to it,
but you never know. It's it's it's

868
01:17:45.119 --> 01:17:49.199
it's just another mystery. And the
chat room. Uh. Digger Dog wanted

869
01:17:49.239 --> 01:17:54.359
to know if there's any place in
China that similar to like the skin Walker

870
01:17:54.439 --> 01:17:58.800
Ranch where you know, maybe a
hotspot or a lot of paranormal activity going

871
01:17:58.840 --> 01:18:04.119
on any place. Well, I
actually went went to the gates of Skinwalker

872
01:18:04.239 --> 01:18:10.840
Range last October and it was so
scary, you know, scary myself.

873
01:18:11.760 --> 01:18:17.800
I even have a little weird experience
after that. But in China, I

874
01:18:17.880 --> 01:18:23.600
don't I don't know about the places. You know, in Skinwalker Range,

875
01:18:23.640 --> 01:18:29.000
people describe its probably a podle where
all this bakefoot, all this alien,

876
01:18:29.119 --> 01:18:36.560
all this paranormals happens, you know, monsters and unbelievable shape of ufo happening

877
01:18:36.640 --> 01:18:43.439
in Skinwalker Range. But in China, I doubt, Okay, I never

878
01:18:43.560 --> 01:18:46.800
really heard about story about that.
But even if they have, even if

879
01:18:47.079 --> 01:18:54.880
China have a place like this,
because of involving on paranormal involving on,

880
01:18:55.439 --> 01:19:00.039
won't be able to talk about it. But I don't remember I read anything

881
01:19:00.239 --> 01:19:06.279
about the Skinwalker Range story in China. But I can tell a little weird

882
01:19:06.319 --> 01:19:12.800
experience. After we visited Skinwalker Range
the gate, we went to film something

883
01:19:13.000 --> 01:19:16.239
in local team here and we went
to the state, actually went to the

884
01:19:16.279 --> 01:19:21.680
state to West Virginia, Ohio,
trying to find Bigfoot and you know,

885
01:19:23.079 --> 01:19:28.159
moth Man Festival and fed with Monster
Festival and all that. We went to

886
01:19:28.279 --> 01:19:34.880
Skinwalker Range in Utah and people were
scared. People who live in the area

887
01:19:35.000 --> 01:19:39.960
are scared. You know. We
went to a supermarket and trying to find

888
01:19:40.119 --> 01:19:46.319
people talk about it. And then
two Native American lady who works in the

889
01:19:46.359 --> 01:19:50.720
supermarket, we speak English, and
we asked them whether you know anything talk

890
01:19:50.760 --> 01:19:57.279
about the Skinwalker range, and they
were kind of scared and trying to whisper

891
01:19:57.399 --> 01:20:00.720
to us and said, no,
we don't really talk about it because when

892
01:20:00.720 --> 01:20:03.039
we talk about it, we believe
the bad luck, the bad thing will

893
01:20:03.079 --> 01:20:10.039
happen to us. So that's it. So you just basically reject our questions.

894
01:20:10.560 --> 01:20:15.079
So that's why. Then okay,
we respect that. And then were

895
01:20:15.560 --> 01:20:18.399
standing aside and waiting what to do
and talking, discussing what to do,

896
01:20:19.000 --> 01:20:26.760
and we can see these girls speaking
by their language themselves and the way they

897
01:20:26.840 --> 01:20:32.880
talk. They obviously discussing about the
the cases, the story and skin Worker

898
01:20:32.960 --> 01:20:39.199
range. And I remember they're giving
the gesture. The whole group of girls

899
01:20:39.239 --> 01:20:44.399
talking to each other in their language
which we don't know, but you can

900
01:20:44.439 --> 01:20:49.039
tell their faces, the expressions,
their gesture. They're actually talking about weird

901
01:20:49.159 --> 01:20:56.399
story in the skin Worker arrange.
So after the visiting, after the feeling,

902
01:20:56.840 --> 01:21:00.439
I went back to the hotel and
sleep, and the people who sleep

903
01:21:00.520 --> 01:21:06.279
in the next next to me and
one of the film crew sleeping in the

904
01:21:06.319 --> 01:21:12.279
same room, and I was sleeping, and the whole night, the whole

905
01:21:13.600 --> 01:21:18.439
night, even until to the next
morning, there were sons whispering next to

906
01:21:18.520 --> 01:21:23.640
my year. I thought at first, I thought that was people in the

907
01:21:23.720 --> 01:21:29.439
next room playing radio or playing or
having a conversation with somebody. But the

908
01:21:29.560 --> 01:21:33.239
thing is, I don't understand what
the boy is talking about, but the

909
01:21:33.319 --> 01:21:38.720
voice is talking. And stop.
Think about it. When you listen to

910
01:21:38.960 --> 01:21:43.920
radio, they have stopping, they
have break time, they have conversals.

911
01:21:44.079 --> 01:21:48.640
When people's conversation with friends, you
know they're stopping. You know there are

912
01:21:48.680 --> 01:21:54.119
people who stop and then the other
person who joined the conversation. But it's

913
01:21:54.199 --> 01:21:58.880
nothing like that. It seems like
a curse. Somebody was cursing next to

914
01:21:59.000 --> 01:22:03.199
my year, my right here all
night, all night until the next morning

915
01:22:03.199 --> 01:22:08.439
when I get up, and the
sounds keep happening in my years. And

916
01:22:08.479 --> 01:22:14.359
then I got really sick after that, and the whole film crew got sick

917
01:22:14.479 --> 01:22:18.960
after that, and that was lucky. There was almost the last few days

918
01:22:18.960 --> 01:22:24.000
of the filming in three weeks,
so that was the last section. So

919
01:22:24.840 --> 01:22:31.920
everybody got back Hong Kong with flu
or maybe fever, and everybody got sick

920
01:22:31.960 --> 01:22:38.399
after the skinwalk arranged with it.
So that is my experience, and I

921
01:22:38.399 --> 01:22:45.000
feel really really some kind of dark
energy and that area surrounding that area,

922
01:22:45.119 --> 01:22:55.279
so we I'm scared myself. Wow, that's something that is really something else.

923
01:22:56.159 --> 01:22:59.720
Another question in the chat room,
someone wanted to know if there's anything

924
01:23:00.479 --> 01:23:05.079
UM like that we have here Area
fifty one. Do you have any experimental

925
01:23:06.000 --> 01:23:11.960
uh you know, military aircraft areas
that are top secret or is that something

926
01:23:12.000 --> 01:23:16.319
you would never even know about.
I believe they have, but I'm not

927
01:23:16.399 --> 01:23:23.720
sure whether they have the well,
um in the way Love North area what

928
01:23:23.920 --> 01:23:30.159
I told, I was told there
is an area there's in a secret place

929
01:23:30.600 --> 01:23:34.880
like probably like an air force or
like like a military base, but it's

930
01:23:34.960 --> 01:23:41.000
similar to air for Area fifty one. People have signing over there, but

931
01:23:41.239 --> 01:23:46.239
the government and well, at first
the people never really ask and the government

932
01:23:46.319 --> 01:23:54.119
never really tell so we as but
in during the UFO research researchers in China

933
01:23:54.640 --> 01:23:58.680
and Hong Kong, we believe are
places like this, but the government never

934
01:23:58.720 --> 01:24:03.600
ever really talks about it. M
hmmm, yeah, I bet um.

935
01:24:03.600 --> 01:24:09.600
Now what about UM you know,
we have a we have a TV show

936
01:24:09.640 --> 01:24:14.079
here. I'm sure you're very familiar
with ancient aliens Uma. Is there any

937
01:24:14.119 --> 01:24:20.159
talk in China about um, you
know, Asian alien ancient you know type

938
01:24:20.199 --> 01:24:26.439
things going on somehow my phone just
heard me say SERI somehow and just went

939
01:24:26.800 --> 01:24:30.159
went wild here. Um, yeah, is there any any talk about you

940
01:24:30.199 --> 01:24:36.000
know, ancient cases of UFOs.
Oh, most of the people don't know

941
01:24:36.079 --> 01:24:44.960
that. China, Chinese people,
we all believe we our ancestor dragon and

942
01:24:45.159 --> 01:24:48.920
according to a lot of reports,
a lot of writing, a lot of

943
01:24:49.239 --> 01:24:56.479
articles from all these thousand years back
then, this I mean, the old

944
01:24:56.680 --> 01:25:02.399
Asian Chinese have a lot of UFOs
writing. And I don't know whether you

945
01:25:02.520 --> 01:25:10.079
heard about the disc they're in some
way north duper disc that people find out

946
01:25:10.680 --> 01:25:15.920
some uh disc like a like a
like an album disc like ah, like

947
01:25:15.000 --> 01:25:20.600
a shape like underground, right,
they found these underground or something. They

948
01:25:20.640 --> 01:25:27.000
find it undersground, underground and they
find some kind of writing on it and

949
01:25:28.119 --> 01:25:31.319
not writing on it and writing next
to it, and the writing that actually

950
01:25:31.399 --> 01:25:38.720
report um the ugly person ugly people. They called it ugly because they were

951
01:25:38.800 --> 01:25:43.760
sought and ugly, so ugly in
the sense they looked weird. So um

952
01:25:43.960 --> 01:25:51.359
ugly people who arrive to this this
area and leaving underground and then they have

953
01:25:51.640 --> 01:26:00.159
wars and then and then they I
mean these people actually made with some of

954
01:26:00.199 --> 01:26:08.880
the village woman and then they believe
there they were the ancestors of this area.

955
01:26:09.079 --> 01:26:12.239
And I mean put it this way
many it happens many many years ago.

956
01:26:12.279 --> 01:26:16.760
So they believe they have alien blood
bloodline in their in their body.

957
01:26:17.640 --> 01:26:25.359
Um we I remember we have um
the first Emperor. We call it yellow.

958
01:26:25.479 --> 01:26:31.399
The first Emperor is arrived from the
sky and he fly away. He

959
01:26:31.640 --> 01:26:38.600
go away when he finishes work all
this year after after like probably twenty years

960
01:26:38.680 --> 01:26:45.119
or something, he fly away with
a craft and people don't want him to

961
01:26:45.159 --> 01:26:50.399
go. So people actually ran and
follow this this yellow Emperor, and then

962
01:26:50.760 --> 01:26:56.279
they they try to pull him back, but he or they can do this,

963
01:26:56.399 --> 01:27:02.199
they can pull his clothes but himself
or go away with the craft of

964
01:27:02.359 --> 01:27:08.199
all the way to the sky.
So I think in the China, in

965
01:27:08.239 --> 01:27:15.880
the Chinese person, they basically believe
we were we or most of the Chinese

966
01:27:15.920 --> 01:27:20.880
have the bloodline from the from the
alien. But they don't have the word

967
01:27:20.920 --> 01:27:27.560
aliens back then. They use their
networkworks like fairies. They use the word

968
01:27:27.640 --> 01:27:33.920
like um, like kind of the
godness and all this an sister, but

969
01:27:33.960 --> 01:27:40.039
they all come from the sky.
So I think I think in China,

970
01:27:40.479 --> 01:27:45.600
most of the Chinese believe we all
have alien blood. And that's why when

971
01:27:45.640 --> 01:27:48.479
I talked to Georgia or the other
day many two couple of years ago,

972
01:27:48.560 --> 01:27:54.199
he said, Wow, I really
want to do some research on the China

973
01:27:54.319 --> 01:28:00.880
area because Chinese have a lot of
long history and with alien Oh by the

974
01:28:00.920 --> 01:28:08.119
way, um, we have cases
like um in the forest pretty much like

975
01:28:08.680 --> 01:28:15.279
like the cases in Russia. Um
Uh. People remember sawing a train,

976
01:28:15.760 --> 01:28:23.720
a train like UM, like a
steam like a steam steam train and arrived

977
01:28:23.760 --> 01:28:30.520
from the sky and swap like one
hundred acre of trees in the forest and

978
01:28:30.560 --> 01:28:34.199
then the fly away. But by
the time it fly away, it's kind

979
01:28:34.279 --> 01:28:40.920
of magnetic and it actually you know, attracts some of the metal, some

980
01:28:41.000 --> 01:28:45.039
of the truck on the on the
ground, and the truck will will go

981
01:28:45.199 --> 01:28:49.159
frount without a driver, without the
engine start, but the truck go to

982
01:28:49.680 --> 01:28:56.840
front like about it drive twelve meters
ahead, but no driver in there.

983
01:28:57.439 --> 01:29:02.079
Because it happens when the UFO this
train flyaway, it seems like some kind

984
01:29:02.119 --> 01:29:09.000
of magnetic and attract the metal and
attract the truck and pull the truck two

985
01:29:09.039 --> 01:29:15.079
works like twelve meters and this is
also reported. And the forest now even

986
01:29:15.079 --> 01:29:18.520
the forest right now is still the
trees are still down, and the China

987
01:29:18.600 --> 01:29:24.960
government actually put a banner in there
and a banner with alien faces with the

988
01:29:25.119 --> 01:29:30.960
UFOs with a lot of wordings and
asking people if you saw anything like that,

989
01:29:30.000 --> 01:29:35.920
please report to the government. That
was a question I had for you.

990
01:29:36.039 --> 01:29:41.680
Actually you can actually report right directly
to the government. I was going

991
01:29:41.760 --> 01:29:45.399
to ask you about UFO reporting and
China, what that's like. Well,

992
01:29:45.880 --> 01:29:49.760
usually when people saw the UFOs these
days, they put it up to the

993
01:29:49.920 --> 01:29:56.520
social media, but the back end
before the internet, people report it to

994
01:29:56.640 --> 01:30:02.520
the policeman, and it's somehow we
we are somehow the policeman when you report

995
01:30:02.520 --> 01:30:06.359
the case to a policeman, and
it suppose a case will go to the

996
01:30:06.399 --> 01:30:13.279
government, but it's somehow, um
some UFO research center from Beijing will send

997
01:30:13.319 --> 01:30:15.800
their researchers come out. So it's
pretty much the same case, like what

998
01:30:16.000 --> 01:30:18.960
you can see on the Project Blue
Book. You know, you saw the

999
01:30:19.079 --> 01:30:24.359
UFO, you reported to the chef, and then somehow the military will send

1000
01:30:24.800 --> 01:30:32.159
two guys to your area and do
some questionnaire, do some questions and and

1001
01:30:31.800 --> 01:30:36.319
and research and do something investigate.
So it's pretty much the same thing.

1002
01:30:36.520 --> 01:30:42.159
I believe That's why I believe and
most of the people believe that you have

1003
01:30:42.239 --> 01:30:46.680
for research. Society are so connected
to the government. So when you report

1004
01:30:46.680 --> 01:30:50.800
the case to a policeman, and
the policeman goes up to probably to military

1005
01:30:51.119 --> 01:30:58.279
and then to the government, and
the government will will assign some researchers coming

1006
01:30:58.319 --> 01:31:03.520
to your area and do research.
That's what happens before. Interesting. Well,

1007
01:31:04.279 --> 01:31:12.159
so do people actually you mentioned earlier
that someone knew that you did UFO

1008
01:31:12.279 --> 01:31:15.479
research in Hong Kong and you're on
TV or on some of the shows over

1009
01:31:15.520 --> 01:31:20.760
there. But um, do people
contact you quite often in regards to you

1010
01:31:20.800 --> 01:31:26.520
know, either abduction or UFO cases? Yeah, um, yes, yes,

1011
01:31:26.560 --> 01:31:31.880
they continue move quite often. I
have uf sighting report almost every week

1012
01:31:32.640 --> 01:31:36.600
every week in Hong Kong. Of
course, some of them can explain,

1013
01:31:36.680 --> 01:31:40.920
you know, some of them like
a plane. Some of them probably some

1014
01:31:41.079 --> 01:31:45.720
phenomenon because of the crowd, sunset
and all that thing. Um. But

1015
01:31:45.880 --> 01:31:51.439
some cases it's hard to explain,
you know. We suddenly, well know,

1016
01:31:51.560 --> 01:32:00.560
we often receive a weird lights flying
in the sky. Um at people

1017
01:32:00.640 --> 01:32:05.359
think maybe the spotlight from from a
China area. Because I'm leaving so close

1018
01:32:05.399 --> 01:32:10.279
to the China. The border or
between Hong Kong and China. UM.

1019
01:32:10.920 --> 01:32:14.800
At first we all believe it's some
kind of lighting show, you know,

1020
01:32:14.880 --> 01:32:20.079
the light show in the mainland.
But then more and more reports arrived.

1021
01:32:20.199 --> 01:32:28.720
We have UM seagle shape ufold.
We saw people who saw a disc shape

1022
01:32:29.680 --> 01:32:34.720
with lights or without lights. Sometimes
we saw us know things fly up from

1023
01:32:34.760 --> 01:32:40.319
the from the ocean. I actually
do investigate. I actually went to talk

1024
01:32:40.319 --> 01:32:45.640
to the one of the owner of
a boat. He basically owned two boats

1025
01:32:46.199 --> 01:32:53.159
and he drives the boat out for
fishing or for partying for during weekend.

1026
01:32:54.039 --> 01:32:58.720
UM. One of the guys told
me the captain told me they saw the

1027
01:32:58.840 --> 01:33:04.279
UFO in the area in in some
way close to UM the Hong Kong airport.

1028
01:33:04.960 --> 01:33:10.359
So I actually went to talk to
the captain. The captain at first

1029
01:33:10.479 --> 01:33:15.239
refused, he told me because he
thinks it's silly anyway, but he saw

1030
01:33:15.279 --> 01:33:20.439
it. He saw this craft just
suddenly just fly up from the from the

1031
01:33:20.479 --> 01:33:27.119
water, from the ocean, and
it was like like a high second and

1032
01:33:27.159 --> 01:33:30.079
it pumps all the way all the
way up to the sky and disappear.

1033
01:33:30.359 --> 01:33:34.319
Wow. And I and then I
first think, why why does he have

1034
01:33:34.359 --> 01:33:38.119
to lie to me? He doesn't
even want to tell me at first,

1035
01:33:38.640 --> 01:33:42.960
and next until I keep asking,
keep asking, and then he decided to

1036
01:33:43.000 --> 01:33:47.520
tell me. And then during about
the same time, one of my audience

1037
01:33:47.640 --> 01:33:53.720
who work in that area, and
he went out to the building to smoke,

1038
01:33:54.199 --> 01:33:57.079
and then when he went out to
smoke, he saw a green light

1039
01:33:57.760 --> 01:34:02.479
shining enough from the from the ocean
itself, and then the lights moving really

1040
01:34:02.600 --> 01:34:08.680
fast under the water because they can
see the green light in one area,

1041
01:34:08.760 --> 01:34:15.119
and he's suddenly moving really fast,
like like one second to another side and

1042
01:34:15.159 --> 01:34:19.439
then stop for like five or five
seconds and then moved to another area.

1043
01:34:19.680 --> 01:34:25.079
He said, there is no way
something can drive so fast under the water

1044
01:34:25.760 --> 01:34:30.680
with the green light. So I
believe there are so many, so many

1045
01:34:30.720 --> 01:34:35.840
sightings, so many cases in Hong
Kong and China. It's just that people

1046
01:34:35.880 --> 01:34:41.239
don't really talk about it right right. Well, I've I've been at a

1047
01:34:41.319 --> 01:34:45.279
number of conferences where the audience has
been asked, you know, how many

1048
01:34:45.279 --> 01:34:49.880
people here, how do you ufo
sighting? And you know a great deal

1049
01:34:49.920 --> 01:34:55.600
of people will hold up their hands
and then the person will ask, okay,

1050
01:34:55.640 --> 01:34:59.760
how many people reported your sighting and
it's only like ten percent. And

1051
01:35:00.039 --> 01:35:02.319
you know, I had a sighting
and I attempted to report it. I

1052
01:35:02.319 --> 01:35:04.600
didn't know. I called the police
department. I didn't know what to do.

1053
01:35:05.800 --> 01:35:11.760
But anyway, it's a very small
percentage of people that actually go that

1054
01:35:12.000 --> 01:35:15.800
to that level. Do you have
is there I should know this, but

1055
01:35:15.880 --> 01:35:21.239
I don't. Is there move on
capability? And in your area? Can

1056
01:35:21.520 --> 01:35:27.359
the people connected to move on?
Yeah? I actually get on to the

1057
01:35:27.439 --> 01:35:32.119
move on the database. A couple
of years ago, I realized they have

1058
01:35:32.199 --> 01:35:36.600
a chapter in Hong Kong. I
actually even talk to some of the superwise

1059
01:35:36.680 --> 01:35:42.600
and move on, And I want
to find out who's who's this guy who's

1060
01:35:42.600 --> 01:35:45.560
dealing with the Hong Kong rful cases
and move on? They have a chapter,

1061
01:35:45.800 --> 01:35:51.359
they have, they have section,
but the cases the report is really

1062
01:35:51.399 --> 01:35:57.680
weird and just only a few cases. Not many people knows how to report

1063
01:35:57.680 --> 01:36:02.039
to move on before the media.
Even now, even now, even now,

1064
01:36:02.079 --> 01:36:09.199
I'm I'm in the list of the
UFOL filling Hong Kong people and when

1065
01:36:09.199 --> 01:36:15.039
they saw it exciting, they only
reported to me by by Facebook, by

1066
01:36:14.319 --> 01:36:18.920
by by social media. But they
don't really report it to the officials or

1067
01:36:18.960 --> 01:36:25.920
to any society because they don't know
how to do it. And also they

1068
01:36:25.960 --> 01:36:30.520
have to field in in English.
It is not easier for them. But

1069
01:36:30.760 --> 01:36:34.119
in move On. One of the
important case in move On database is people

1070
01:36:34.199 --> 01:36:44.119
saw a hundred more than hundred forty
feet uh secor shape craft parking right outside

1071
01:36:44.159 --> 01:36:47.920
of a building, parking right outside
the building. Wow. Um, he

1072
01:36:48.119 --> 01:36:53.560
thought he was crazy. But he
told the taxi driver, well, they

1073
01:36:53.600 --> 01:36:59.159
were in the traffic jam and this
guy sitting in the car and waiting because

1074
01:36:59.159 --> 01:37:01.520
the traffic are totally jammed up.
So he said, in the car and

1075
01:37:01.600 --> 01:37:05.279
he saw something really far on the
other side of the sky, which is

1076
01:37:05.279 --> 01:37:11.479
a shape seeker shape. And then
after like five minutes of the jamming,

1077
01:37:12.159 --> 01:37:17.039
and he suddenly saw this craft parking
right outside a commercial building really close.

1078
01:37:17.680 --> 01:37:23.520
And at first he couldn't believe his
eyes. He even asked the taxi driver

1079
01:37:23.640 --> 01:37:27.439
what did what was that? And
the taxi drivers look at it and said,

1080
01:37:27.479 --> 01:37:30.520
oh, I don't know what that
was. And then he seems like

1081
01:37:30.560 --> 01:37:33.600
he forgot about the whole thing.
It's pretty similar to most of the phenomenon

1082
01:37:33.640 --> 01:37:39.159
people who saw something unbelieved and they
decided to ignore it. So this driver

1083
01:37:39.800 --> 01:37:43.960
carry on the drive. So he
report this case to move On. You

1084
01:37:44.039 --> 01:37:46.840
can find this on the move On
database. But after a few years we

1085
01:37:47.079 --> 01:37:54.640
realized there were one guy who worked
inside the commercial building. He reported to

1086
01:37:54.720 --> 01:37:59.199
move On. He said he saw
something parking right outside the building. Two

1087
01:37:59.199 --> 01:38:01.800
of them don't know each other even
up to now I know both of them,

1088
01:38:01.840 --> 01:38:05.039
but two of them don't know each
other. But it seems only their

1089
01:38:05.239 --> 01:38:13.720
testimony can prove what the other person's
testimony and do were at the same day,

1090
01:38:13.880 --> 01:38:19.399
same time. So we have to
witness on the big huge seago shape

1091
01:38:19.439 --> 01:38:26.239
parking outside of building in move On
database. Wow wow? Now is there

1092
01:38:27.359 --> 01:38:30.239
is there any geo do you know? Do you know what the word geo

1093
01:38:30.279 --> 01:38:34.039
blocking is when it comes to websites
and things like that? Um? Is

1094
01:38:34.079 --> 01:38:38.880
there is? There? Is that
active? And I heard that was active

1095
01:38:38.880 --> 01:38:42.680
in China. I don't know if
it still is, but that people will

1096
01:38:42.720 --> 01:38:46.479
block websites from other parts of the
world. Does that happen in China or

1097
01:38:46.920 --> 01:38:53.199
or in a happened in China but
not Hong Kong. Not in Hong Kong,

1098
01:38:53.279 --> 01:38:57.520
China, people cannot see YouTube,
cannot go to Google. Wow.

1099
01:38:59.039 --> 01:39:02.479
Um? Well what people? People
have their way to assess, but not

1100
01:39:02.560 --> 01:39:10.760
officially no, obviously they block Googles
they block YouTube, they block Facebook,

1101
01:39:10.880 --> 01:39:15.960
they block Twitters, all the social
media, Instagram, they all block it.

1102
01:39:15.600 --> 01:39:19.840
But people still able to to do
it if they want to with a

1103
01:39:19.920 --> 01:39:25.800
VPN server or something. Yeah,
wep and all these things. They people

1104
01:39:25.880 --> 01:39:29.920
China people are really good at this. There's no way you can keep the

1105
01:39:29.960 --> 01:39:32.840
information out from them. If they
want to know, they have the best

1106
01:39:32.840 --> 01:39:36.800
way. They have the factest a
way to know, and the technology are

1107
01:39:36.840 --> 01:39:42.520
really superb. They can assess anywhere, but only for the government. You

1108
01:39:42.560 --> 01:39:46.359
cannot get there, you cannot arrive
officially. But in Hong Kong is different.

1109
01:39:46.399 --> 01:39:51.000
Hong Kong, we can go anywhere
everywhere. Wow. So it's just

1110
01:39:51.279 --> 01:39:55.520
someone was asking why they do that, and it's basically just to control a

1111
01:39:55.640 --> 01:39:59.479
control thing. Really, yeah,
are simple, simple answers to control,

1112
01:40:00.039 --> 01:40:02.279
you know, ask about why in
North Korea people who don't know anything about

1113
01:40:02.319 --> 01:40:06.199
the whole world. That's because they
have to control, They have to control

1114
01:40:06.239 --> 01:40:12.239
people. And they were so worry
about the mind people, the mindset.

1115
01:40:12.319 --> 01:40:16.600
We're being changed by the whole world. So that's why when I'm talking about

1116
01:40:16.640 --> 01:40:23.000
the UFO cases, they allow us
to office only they allow us to study

1117
01:40:23.079 --> 01:40:30.359
the technology, study the phenomenon but
we won't be able to deeply involve into

1118
01:40:30.600 --> 01:40:34.520
the spiritual or the you know,
what happened to the people's mind about all

1119
01:40:34.560 --> 01:40:41.720
this download is pretty much a tabu
in in China, But in Hong Kong

1120
01:40:41.760 --> 01:40:45.760
we are fine. Wow. Yeah, that is a that is amazing that

1121
01:40:45.800 --> 01:40:51.279
there's that divide really as something else. You know, we're almost out of

1122
01:40:51.319 --> 01:40:57.760
time here. Now, what do
you consider your just since you're talking to

1123
01:40:57.840 --> 01:41:04.000
an American here, what's your favorite
Americ American case? My favorite American case?

1124
01:41:04.039 --> 01:41:08.800
There are so many cases, and
it happens in the States. And

1125
01:41:09.560 --> 01:41:15.119
because I keep coming up to the
States almost every year, well, yes

1126
01:41:15.920 --> 01:41:21.960
I will come. I went a
few times of a conference in the West,

1127
01:41:23.520 --> 01:41:26.680
contact in the desert, and I
know of these people and do research

1128
01:41:27.279 --> 01:41:33.520
and do interview with people's and so
many cases. But I actually brought Trumps

1129
01:41:33.600 --> 01:41:41.399
Walton to Hong Kong at two thousand
and remember that sharing his story. Yeah,

1130
01:41:41.439 --> 01:41:45.119
and I actually two years before before
I brought him to Hong Kong,

1131
01:41:45.199 --> 01:41:51.439
I actually fly to Arisana to Snowflake
to have contact with him, and he

1132
01:41:51.520 --> 01:41:55.560
brought me up to the sky,
brought me up to the huge side where

1133
01:41:55.560 --> 01:41:58.880
he'd been abducted, right, I
was on the phone area. I was

1134
01:41:58.920 --> 01:42:00.920
on the phone with him live on
the show. Actually he was on the

1135
01:42:00.920 --> 01:42:05.520
phone for just a minute with me. Yeah, oh okay, yeah,

1136
01:42:05.239 --> 01:42:12.640
yea, so so um yeah,
I think the most the case I'm most

1137
01:42:12.680 --> 01:42:19.039
fascinating is Truvis Welton t A fining
this guy because he has so many documented

1138
01:42:19.119 --> 01:42:26.079
It's all well documented by the policeman, by the Sheriff's department, and all

1139
01:42:26.159 --> 01:42:30.439
his witness all his body when he
went to when he being abducted. You

1140
01:42:30.479 --> 01:42:34.359
know, people who saw it.
There is no way this is um.

1141
01:42:35.439 --> 01:42:40.680
This this case is so real to
me. And I actually talked to him

1142
01:42:41.359 --> 01:42:46.399
and the way he taught you realize
he's not He just actually happened to him

1143
01:42:46.439 --> 01:42:51.000
and it does make a big change
to him. So yeah, this is

1144
01:42:51.039 --> 01:42:56.279
one of the case I remember the
most, um, but so other cases,

1145
01:42:56.359 --> 01:43:00.520
so many cases I want to study. Wow, we're at the end

1146
01:43:00.520 --> 01:43:04.359
of our show and I want to
thank you. It's been a real pleasure

1147
01:43:04.680 --> 01:43:09.640
talking to you tonight. Thank you. Am I am I doing okay?

1148
01:43:10.359 --> 01:43:14.319
Is audience understandable you've oh yeah,
yeah. We've had a number of people

1149
01:43:14.319 --> 01:43:17.279
in the chat room say nice things, so you're all good. Okay.

1150
01:43:17.479 --> 01:43:23.640
If I say something which makes people
don't understand, that is probably Mail Gibson's

1151
01:43:23.680 --> 01:43:30.239
full I'm kidding. Yeah, so
yeah, all right, thank you.

1152
01:43:30.439 --> 01:43:31.880
All right, I'll ask you.
I don't have a show engineer helping me

1153
01:43:31.880 --> 01:43:34.680
out tonight, so I'm gonna ask
you to hang up on Skype and thank

1154
01:43:34.680 --> 01:43:38.600
you so much. It's been a
real pleasure. All right, have a

1155
01:43:38.640 --> 01:43:41.760
good one. Thank you you too, all right, sure byebye now,

1156
01:43:42.119 --> 01:43:45.479
all right, everyone, So that's
it for our show. Thank you so

1157
01:43:45.560 --> 01:43:48.520
much for listening and watching on YouTube. And I want to thank everyone that

1158
01:43:48.560 --> 01:43:53.720
helps out behind the scenes. And
we are going to be back next week

1159
01:43:53.760 --> 01:43:59.399
with Charlotte Man. She is her
grandfather was involved in the Cape Garadou case

1160
01:44:00.359 --> 01:44:04.520
nineteen forty one. Very strange case
and it's a very very interesting case.

1161
01:44:04.840 --> 01:44:10.399
So come back with us and check
that out. So again next week we'll

1162
01:44:10.399 --> 01:44:13.840
be back, and I want to
thank everyone also that supports the show,

1163
01:44:13.960 --> 01:44:29.319
and remember to keep your eyes to
the sky.