And it hits me, Oh my gosh, this is a triangle. You
know, there's explanation for everything that occurred in the randallshom Fars incident. It
doesn't involve aliens at all. It was completely silent. It comes right over
our heads. Classic clown. He's also really standing into clearing. He turned
over to my father, held his hand, and he looked in his eyes
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be on a UFO cruise. I believe my guest tonight is all the way
from Hong Kong. It's it's actually we're doing time travel. He's tomorrow early
in the morning, I believe, right now. And he likes to be
called Chuck, so we're gonna call him Chuck. I'll ask him to pronounce
his name properly on the show when he's on. He'll be up in just
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Chuck. How are you Hi? Good evening? Everyone, Hi,
good even I'm good. How are you good evening? Good morning to you.
It's early morning for you, right, yeah? Is um seven o'clock
in the morning in Hong Kong here? Wow? Yeah, hey, thanks
for thank you so much, Thank you so much for having me in the
show. Oh oh yeah, my my pleasure I've actually had some couple of
people have said that they wanted you up on the show, and so I
thought it would be a great idea to get a perspective. But, um,
you told me something really interesting when we talked last night, and that
is how you learned English. I want you to tell the audience it's a
great how did you learn your Your English is very good? Thank you,
thank you so much. I actually I actually picked up my English by watching
Legal Weapon Lethal Weapon, and you said about four hundred times four hundred times,
more than four hundred times the first movie and probably a couple of hundred
times the second movie. I just love it. So basically I actually picked
up my English from Mel Gibson and Danny Glover. Well you have more of
more of a vocabulary than the movies, I'm sure, But did you have
an interest in learning You must have had an interest in learning English to begin
with. Yeah, well, um, my mom used to be made for
an English lady, and I usually spend my summer holiday with my mom when
when you're working in the house. So that's how I picked up my injuriests
about English. Uh huh. So then yeah, go ahead, no,
no, go ahead, finish her, finish your thoughts there and then and
then I got really interested about it. So, um, I'm not a
good student because I got I have dyslexia, so that's why I'm not really
pay attention on school and all that. But then, okay, I have
a chance that I lost my job and I spent four months sitting at home
and doing nothing. So I just simply pick up a weak chess tape in
those days, pick up WI chess tape and just put into a video machine
and play it. And I don't even know what the movie is, so
I just play it. And then I find out, oh, that's a
pretty cool movie, and uh, and then later I find out that was
called Little Weapon, and then I just I just love the movie. I
just love the area in the movie, you know, Los Angeles and the
sunshine, and totally totally fall not fall in love with the movie. So
I just watch it again and again and again and destroy too will chess tape.
And then I brought then LD I brought the an l D and then
play it again and again again. So I think maybe maybe maybe more than
a little bit more than four hundred times, and I keep watching it every
year especially during Christmas. How I picked up I remember every single script in
the movie. I'm sure you too, including all this this f bomb movie
or the script everything. I remember the whole thing. So people just play
the movie and I don't have to watch it. I just listened to the
script. I know, and I know wish one. They're playing a movie
one movie for I just love it. Now, can you tell the listening
audience how you got your what major have an interest in UFO was? To
begin with? You had a sighting when you were young, right, Yeah,
when I was twelve or thirteen. I mean, I don't really remember
the age, but it would thirteen, I guess. And h we finished
dinner like seven thirty at night, and we we means me and my dad
and my two of my sisters, we went up to the rooftop of the
building in Hong Kong bos So the people live in the buildings. So I
went up to the buildings after after the dinner and we just hang there.
We just did We don't really do anything. Might They usually just bring a
paper newspaper and read it over there. My sister they're just playing toys in
the rooftop and myself so suddenly we saw something floating on the opposite side of
the mountain, and between the building and the mountains there is a row,
you know, they're their taxi and their their traffics between the mountain and the
building. So we look overside the other side. It's probably about one hundred
feet away. There's a growing, a growing ball. I mean, I
can I cannot tell the size because um but I think that's probably about the
size of maybe a bowling, maybe a bowling, maybe a basketball. I
don't I can't really tell the size. But it was floating and it's hovering,
and then it's not making turns, and all I can say it's growing
orange color, but sometimes it changed to yellow, and the ball itself it
seems like there's something moving inside the ball, but I don't know what that
is. So the best way I can describe it is when you stir a
coffee or when you stir a cappuccino with cream, and then you see that
that the testure, you know, stirring inside the ball. So that's all
I can describe. Something moving in there, but I don't know what it
is. But it change color sometimes from yellow to orange to red um and
then the flying pattern is I can say they change speeds because in making a
circle um pattern when they when when they fly, when they're offering, it
seems like it's searching something. So sometimes you fly faster, sometimes slow down
a little bit, and then sometimes it's fast faster again. So I can't
tell, but it it you know, something in the middle of it turning,
it seems like it's going bigger. So what we can tell is coming
towards us, but it's not really coming to all the way to us.
It goes closer to us, and then it's suddenly going far away again.
So I was kind of scared, and I was telling my dad to leave,
but my dad, he was a policeman, so he basically just insists
to stay in and watched the thing because he don't he doesn't know what it
is as well. So my my sister scares and we all four of us
standing in the rooftop and watch it. These things were like about probably be
a few minutes, probably five minutes or something, and then it fly all
the way behind and disappeared behind the mountain. And that's my first sighting,
and I got really interested about these subjects ever since thirteen years old, Wow,
so um, that is an interesting sighting. Now, I have heard
of people talk about sightings um when they're orbs or some type of like you
know, globular object, and they've actually said said that they also saw something
moving inside. There's a there's a story. There's a really weird story and
that I was told on this show where a woman gave this account to a
UFO researcher. This is on one of my shows maybe a year or two
ago, that the researcher said that it was like an ORB with something moving
inside, and all of a sudden there was a big foot. She said,
a big foot. You know, I mean, you know, I
mean, of course, you don't know if there's any validity to a sighting
like that, or the person or anything like that. This was a secondhand
story, but I know there's more than one case that I've heard about the
orbs that people say it looks like something inside or something moving, which which
is kind of fascinating. That did the thing make any sound that you're aware
of, No, no signing, not It's totally silent. And that's why
my dad, you know, I remember, I remembered like a few days
I'll to after the siding and my my I remember my dad mentioned this to
my mom during probably dinner or something, and he mentioned that that's the reason
he feels weird. This thing weird because it's totally silent. And remember my
dad used to be a cop and he after all this training with helicopters and
all these things, so he supposed to know what that is, what there
was, but no, he doesn't even know what there was, so he
just feel really weird. And he talked about it. Is it something the
family could talk about afterwards or something he didn't want to talk about. The
UFO is very weird subjects and back then, so so my my dad basically
just mentioned it to my mom, but he doesn't really spend time to talk
about it. And I am the one who can remember the whole thing after
all these years. My sister, one of my sisters, kind of have
a little little memory, but not a full memory of that. So I'm
the only one who remember the whole thing, and and other sisters she totally
forgot about the whole thing. And my dad. My dad have a bad
stroke or many years ago, so he I don't think he remember anything.
And there's so many things to do worry about, you know, in all
these days, people worry about works, worry about leaving, worry about the
kids. So uf always the last thing they always mentioned about. Yeah,
yeah, well I've said, you know a number of times said, you
know, the uf OL topic isn't that big of a topic in general,
you know, as far as the average person day to day, you know,
because of just what you said, people worried about their job, They're
worried about you know, security, money whatever where it is, and in
space even or anything to do with UFOs or anything like that is far from,
you know, the first thing on their mind, unless, of course,
if they have an experience like you did, you know, and not
everyone gets interested in it also when they haven't experience either. You know,
some people just it was like one of your sisters that doesn't remember anything,
or some people don't remember some people never want to talk about it. But
but you have gone the other way and you've had a lot of interest in
it, and you're you're actually kind of a UFO guy, a known UFO
guy over there in China, aren't you. No, China is a big
place, um I'm or Hong Kong or Beijing, Hong Kong is yeah,
Hong Kong and ongoing in China, you're running to different system even I mean
Hong Kong belongs to China these days. But we are running to a totally
different culture, different system. And we actually in Hong Kong, we actually
grow up with a Western culture. We have chips, we have chips in
TV, we have six million dollars men in TV and all that. So,
so we actually grow up with a lot of American or Western culture in
here. Um. So that's why we think different, we talk different.
The way we do things is also also different. Um. Hong Kong,
China is a big place, and so many UFO researchers in China and so
many UFO cases, abduction cases in all these in China, Hong Kong,
Hong Kong. We have a big, really huge famous case in one of
one of the village in Hong Kong here with a big mothership. More than
like more than probably a few thousands of Hong Kong people saw it and it
lands. It's not really land, but offering on the top of the building
during our six pm or seven pm at night. So it's supposed to be
a lot of people who get off work and get off the bus station they
have sighting. But again UFO subject is really very minimal. And all these
days, all these days back then in Hong Kong, people so much to
have so many things to worry about, so UFO is the last thing they
worry. China have many many cases. But I recently I find out the
reason why the Western culture people and I like people from England, people from
the States, they have very difficulty to find the information about UFO in China
is probably because the name of the places and the name of the witness they
are, they are basically Jedi's name to the foreigner, so it's very difficult
to remember it, very difficult to know the places and all that. So
des now you mentioned there are a lot of cases, and I'd like to
go over that a bit. We don't necessarily have to right now. But
one of the things that I wanted to ask you tonight was in generally now
you say, Hong Kong's totally different than the rest of China, or it's
like its own separate, little Western type situation going on there. But as
far as you know, in general, how is the UFO topic perceived in
China? What does what do the rest of China for the most part.
I'm talking about like the government and the average person when they pay attention to
the UFO topic. What is it? What is that? Is it?
Is it taken seriously? Oh? That's um. That's an interesting point because
most of the people when I went to the States and people keep asking me
about how to China government deal with the UFO cases? Are they doing with
it? Did they couple up the cases? So? Did they do anything
about it? All I can say is China government is pretty open up to
UFO subjects. They basically treated as science subjects, you know, science scientific
subjects. So yeah, and as you know, you know at some of
the website you can see from the official website, they will put the UFO
subjects as one of the scientific research section. Uh huh. And do what
about the military Do they get involved in any type of research? Yes,
military officials, that policemen, they all, they all get involved into some
of the research. Because we have a few cases, I mean the biggest,
huge list name in few few abduction cases. You know, the researchers
from Beijing when they do the research, they have a lot of help.
They got a lot of help from military you know, from the military hospital,
from the police department, from the government of different places. They are
helping on the UFO research. Of course, the research, the report of
the research, they will send it up to the China government or to the
military, not to the public. But at least they don't really cover that
up. They don't say aliens or UFO fake weather balloon, No, they
don't do that. They actually report the cases on even on the office of
TV station. They reported on news as well. So I think I think
China government or the military they actually take this UFO subject very seriously and I
don't think they really cover up or suppressed the information unless unless is it involveh
into like legion all that thing, and then they will they would like to
put a stop on there. And and what do you mean by that exactly
and pertaining to religion, Oh yeah, that's um. You know, when
we when we talk about the UFOs um for the China government, they would
like to stick it into scientifics like how the flags and what where they come
from and what's the purpose of it. But you know, in UFO cases
and a lot of abduction cases that involve into um change of a personality,
you know, people from a normal farmer or a normal person. And then
after deciding, after all that thing, after all the contact, especially with
the Indian, they start changing to a spiritual person. You know, they're
start changing to um more. How can I how how can I describe it?
You know, they will change their personality. They probably become a legion.
They probably become UM, very spiritual and talks about um. The information
download to their brain, to their their head and the messages from the alien
and all that thing. It becomes really spiritual. And the China government maybe
I think recently, I have a feeling they will they will put a stop
in there because they don't really want to involve into religion, and they will
they will treat it as a code, as a How do I explain?
Because they cut like a coulde and they always make some example like like the
Haven Gate and all that cut and they all involved into alien and involved into
UFOs, right, So that's why they they are a little worry about it.
Um. That's what I can see. That's what I can observe from
the government and the gesture they're doing, the thing they're writing. So I
think I think as long as you stick to the UFO technology and all that
thing you will find. But when you're involved into a spiritual development or you
know, your consciousness, one end thing they they they worry about about.
Well okay, well okay, well uh sounds like a little bit of feedback
here, feedback. What's going on? Um? Um? Well, anyway,
when when you said that people had messages, can you tell me what
some of those messages were? Do you happen to know what they said they
were thinking that they were getting for a message of that part really interests me
because of some of the ones that I've heard in the past. Who I
have any idea of what they were? Well, um, I can tell
you a little example. But before that, I want to I want to
say something because that is, that was what I observe, but may not
be the real situation in China here. After all, I am just your
researchers, and I don't I have a little contact in to the insider,
but not not to the officials insider. So put it this way, whatever
I can tell is probably what I can observe. That's well, that's that's
I mean, that's all I can say. I cannot represent all the UFOL
researchers. And their reports and there and there the conclusion, okay, and
and then I'm never able to get the conclusion from the officials because it's so
it's so officials in the government they don't they don't release all these things.
They do research, but they don't release it. Okay. Recently, we
you know, all these states in China, government or China have a lot
of UFO conference or a lot of uf lecture, sometimes in Beijing, sometimes
in different places. And they have so many UFO research society all over China.
You know, every little town, every little province have their research centers.
But you have to remember this is a communist country, right, so
you cannot just simply start a group without the permission from the government. So
then on this part you can tell the actually government allowed people to do the
research, especially that one of the biggest research societies in Beijing. And in
some of the abduction cases, when the research is going out for research,
they have they got help from military because one for example, one of the
case, the guys named child and he had the induction cases and he saw
another person and other Chinese girls in the craft itself. So when he trying
to find somebody when here trying to find the researchers. The researchers were sent
from Beijing, and the researchers actually bring this guy child to do a body
research, body body test and make sure he's okay, and do the hypnosis.
All these things are done in the military hospital. Really why yes,
when they try to find the girl he saw in the graph, which is
a Chinese girl but very sick, so they do something, some kind of
suggesture, some kind of experiment on the girl and they release both of them.
And when this guy trying to find this girl, it's not in the
same time. It's somewhere really find, really in a distance. So when
they're trying to find this girl, they actually have the drawing on girls.
The drawing was done by the police department. So you can tell the government
actually helping. Wow. And some of the inside I actually tell yeah,
some of the actually some of the inside I actually actually told me the China
government helping on the research. But they don't admit it. They just help.
And then they got the report and that's it. All right, Well,
we have to we have to go to break right now, so we'll
continue this on the other side of the break. And remember on YouTube you're
going to see a screen up and just hang in there. We will be
We'll be right back in just a few minutes. This is Martin Willis and
my guest is I never asked him how to pronounce his last name, Chuck
Faye, I believe, or something similar. I'll ask him when he's back
and we'll be right back after these messages. Hello, and welcome back to
the show. I'm Martin Willis, your host, and we just before the
break, I was talking to Chuck Faye, who is my guest, and
he was telling me about this story of that the police department getting heavily involved
and helping this person figure out their UFO. It sounds like an abduction case
where they saw someone on the craft and they actually did a detective like sketch.
It sounds like is that right, yes, right, No, the
detective when you saw a criminal and you want to you only have the memory
in your brain. So the policeman usually draw the face, no, draw
the sketching on the face and then put it up on the TV and say
we wanted this guy right. So that kind of drawing also done by the
police department in China during even in the UFO research, so you can tell,
you can tell the government actually helped do a lot of helping on the
researching. That's that's pretty amazing that they would take it that serious because I
think of all of what happens in the UFO, that the abduction thing is
the one that I would believe in this country would be taking taking the least
amount of with seriousness. Um. You know, I do believe that.
Um. I don't think there's any cases whatsoever that we've had here that involving
abductions were you know, our police department got involved that I'm aware of,
except for the famous ones that you know of, like Travis Walton. The
police departments get involved in that, but not in the way that you're talking
about. Um, they can. And also the police department they don't believe
in the first place, right Yeah, so they usually think the guys lying.
The guys do something like Travis Wonden, the police even think they murder
him. Right. So, so I'm gonna put it this way. Abduction
cases in all places, all the countries, they treated seriously, but they
just the matter off. They tell you the results or they tell you they're
so serious about it. Hong Kong is no different. China is no different.
I think they treat it really seriously. And they even reported on the
news. Remember again, this is combudist country. The TV station also owned.
The TV station, the radio station, both of them are also owned
by the government, so they allowed it to report on the news to the
public. So you can imagine how how serious they treat this kind of matter.
You know, I'm surprised. I'm actually surprised that they take it serious.
Like you mentioned, you know, it's a communist country. It's also
you know, state owned media, like you're saying, and they actually take
it serious enough to actually talk about it when actually you don't have a lot
of freedom of speech in general there, do you. I mean, can
you even talk about that? Um, it's getting better, it's getting better
these days, but before you know, all these attraction cases we're talking about
like seventies, like eighties, so the mind the mindset is still pretty pretty
much closing, I mean, not like these days these day. China is
like like like like international countries to everybody, right, you can see big
buildings, you can see a lot of people using iPhone, people using smartphone
and computers and all this stuff, but you can you also think about it,
you know, all these even on the Cold War, the Russia,
and they're also very interested about UFO subjects as well. So I think I
think China government is always interested about it. And one of the one of
the examples I can tell is one of the governments set like launching center owned
by the government. Of course, they launched the sate like they launched the
rocket. They launched the craft to travel the moon. That launching center.
Outside of the launching center, they have a few statue, a few um
a before you enter to the center itself. You know, they usually when
you watch the movies, the statue usually like a like a hero, like
a like the rock Lion. But they have few grades alien grades with Chinese
traditional dress as a statue outside of the satellite launching center. So you can
imagine. Yeah, they pretty open up. They pretty open up to the
subjects. They don't think alien, they don't think you have faith. They
believe. I think they believe in the uf vote and they believe in the
life outside the earth and we are not alone. But it's just a manner
of they don't know anything about it, so they will encourage people, the
citizen to do research and they encourage people to report it. Then that's that's
what I can see. So it's pretty open up to the subjects from the
China government. But again, as long as you don't you don't make it
too spiritual, and you don't make it to become new age subjects, then
they don't really care about it. The reason I said it because recently they
are free a few there there there. There's a UFO conference in Shanghai and
Beijing just the end of last year, probably December. I attended the Beijing
money and the China government, the China people, they were not China people.
Put it this way. We have three guesses from the States. We
have Lauren Asenhower, we have Michael Sala from Extra Politics, and we have
John Dissa. All three of them can the Beijing and Shanghai and share their
story, share the the the lecture UM people are crazy about. People were
so happy and they were so fascinating about the information and all that. But
the case is after the lecture, one of one of the scientists who pose
an article in UM one of the office or website. They're not attacking them,
but they attack the way they the word they use. They swap from
the UFO information to a spiritual perspective, and they they the way they the
way he wrote it, he's actually, of course he's attacking this kind of
perspective of spiritual perspective because they were so worry about UFO information you have for
research will swamp from scientifics to account So that's why you can tell they are
still not too open to completely to the subject completely, because we all know
the UFO research. When you when you research on the UFO subject, when
you only research, when you only treat it as scientists, you only get
only on the outside of the information. You don't never get inside into the
center of the UFO or the alien perspective. So that's that's why I think
they're not completely open up to this. But they they they really interested about
the UFO things, they want to know more. But they also at the
same time, on the same side, they worry about people will be too
involved into it and then they will change their mindset and change their way they
think, and they really worry about the mid matters. Put it this way,
is there any other example of anything you can think of that is similar
to that, you know, like, do they feel the same way about
people talking about a ghost sighting or anything like that. I mean, is
that a similar attitude. Remember the ghost subjects, ghosts, the paranormal subjects
is not allowed in China because they think it's part of the religion. Is
that right? Wow? Yes, well I mentioned that on the other media
and people think we live funny is whenever we make a movie in Hong Kong
here, okay, we make movie, many different kinds of movie. We
have scientifics movie, we have paranormal movies in Hong Kong here. So whenever
we send the movie to the China, we want to launch the movie in
China, we have to change the ending, all right, you know I'm
talking about the paranormal movies, right, So we have to change the ending.
We have to make it become explainable. For example, the last ending
could be the actor or the actress who have been involved into this paranormal's experience.
He had to wake up on from the dream. So this is a
dream and this is not nothing's right, And you have to do something like
that to change the ending to be able to launch the movie in China.
Wow. Yeah, I mentioned this too many people, and first of all,
they don't believe that. So we have different versions on the paranormal movies
in here, but at the same time, at the same time, when
I whenever I go us up to China, it's a big place, right,
So when I go to the South area of China, people are thinking
pretty much the same way as us from Hong Kong because we are speaking the
same language in Cantonese. You know, most of China, Chinese people speak
Mandarin, but in the South area and Hong Kong we speak Cantonese, so
we we're pretty much sharing the same thing. So the people from South,
like Guangjaw. People from Guangjaw, they speak Cantonese and they believe in ghosts,
They believe in paramormal stuff. But the people on the north they don't
because they never really have a chance to to to or serve this kind of
information at all. But the more I researched in the States, the more
I research, the more contact with the APTA keys, and the contact is
myself, And then I realize that the paranormal things, the paranormal are actually
quite involved into the UFO phenomenon, so probably they're all related. So if
we can only research on the scientific way, so we can we are only
basically researching on the aliens craft on the aliens car right the vehicle, so
you never really get into the deeper the center of the whole phenomenon. So
that's why I think at the same time, China government may try to involve
into it, but I think they're also worried to let the citizens involved into
it too much. So I think some kind of contradiction between it and some
of the higher rank official Maybe maybe they're fighting to get a deeper church into
it. But you know, also a couple in China in China culture,
uh huh wow. All all very interesting. Now, is there a like
the best way I can put that, is there a Chinese roswell? I
mean, is there some really famous UFO caseum that topped them all? Yeah,
I can share. I can share with you a few cases. One
of the cases is very important because it's one of the biggest abduction cases and
it happens on nineteen seventy seven and one of the guys he's he's a farmer
and he's about to get married. But just before he get married, he
disappeared. He disappeared in no reason all right, and people think he may
be a runaway, runnaway groom. But now that's not the case. He
really want to marry this woman. So but he disappeared just before the marriage,
and the people from the village trying to find him more than ten days
and nobody, nobody knows where he went. But the funny thing is one
of the important thing is the people who live in the village. One of
the people who receive a telepraph telegraph. But the telegraph which is late and
arrived late because of so many you know, in the people and those days
in seventy seven, people don't have very good communications, and even in the
whole village they share one form, so nobody knows the telegraph the telegraph arrived
and until one day they find out this telegraph which is already ten days later,
but the telegraph is was sent the second day when he disappeared. This
guy his names Wong. I don't want to give the whole name because the
whole name means like the Jedi's name to everybody, so it's hard to remember.
So I just call him one um and he disappears the second day the
telegraph that the telegraph arrived, but because of the people who don't know about
the whole thing, and the people of they're so messing up his chaos in
the village. So nobody realized the telegraph arrived. But the telegraph actually sent
the second day when he disappeared. I mean, why he disappeared on twenty
seventh of July and the telegraph sent twenty eighth of July, but nobody knows
about it, so they only final ten days later. But the telegraph was
sent from Shanghai, and this guy is leaving ube wube is also in places
so on the north, so it's quite a far distance. Nobody know how
I mean, Okay, the telegraph itself is saying this guy Huan was staying
in Shanghai and he's staying in with the military. So the official report from
the military. So this is the first time it disappeared. But nobody understand
how come this guy can travel all these far from Wubei to Shanghai in ten
hours And we were talking about like thousand, a thousand, forty thousand and
one hundred forty miles, right, So there's no way they can travel that
far. And this guy is a farmer, he doesn't take helicopters, and
the fastest way he got there needs twenty two hours, but you know it
just you know, the telegraphs stand out in an hour. So nobody understand
how he do it. But the reason he and then he mentioned about it.
He mentioned he's leaving. He's sleeping and suddenly he wake up by some
noise and he doesn't know. Wow, he doesn't know why when he get
up, he's leaving. He's supposed to living in the farm area, really
quiet area, but when he wake up in the morning, he just wake
up and saw so many huge buildings and he doesn't know where he was where
he was, so he keeps asking people, and people tell him you in
you in Shanghai, and that really make him crazy, and he doesn't know
what to do, so he go he went to find the policeman, and
the policeman sent this telepath telegraph to where he lived. Then was the first
the first case, and then the second case is two months later and he
this this one go back homelessly again. And then next morning when he get
up, he went to Shanghai a train station again and he was so surprised.
He saw the clock, the clock on the building. It was one
o'clock in the midnight, one am. So he doesn't know what to do.
So remember he remember the last time he went to the camp site and
get help from the military, so he was thinking, maybe I can do
the same thing. So he trying to go to the military camp site and
try to get help. Remember this is the second time of this happened,
but he doesn't remember. He doesn't know. It's suddenly two military guy just
come up to him and said, okay, we were supposed to wait you
here, and then they bring brought him. They brought him to the camp
site, and Huang suddenly, I mean this two this two military brank brought
him to the higher level of one of the general. But Huang realized that
when he saw the general, these two guys suddenly disappeared just behind him.
He was there, they were, they were there like a minute ago,
and suddenly they were gone. So he doesn't know why. But when he
talked to the higher rank of the general, the general is so surprised.
How you get into the camp site? This is the camp site and no
citizens can come in here. How do you come here? So Huang tell
him two of the military guy brought me here, and but the general don't
see anyone. He just saw Huang just going into the camp and talk to
him so and and I think, you know, make everybody surprised. So
they give him some money and then send him home. And that said,
So this is the second second case, the second second time of attacked him.
A third time of the attraction is ten days later, and he finished
his work. One finishes work and he feels like dizzy and then feel like
faint. And then by the time he get up, he was somewhere in
a hotel or something, and there were two young people sitting next to him
and tell him, this is this is land job. It's somewhere really far
away. We way way far away, like a thousand, two hundred miles
away. But he doesn't know how he gets there. So all these cases
happened to this guy, and they all have the report. They all have
the report and the offical record from the military, from the police, because
remember he got help from the military to get home. He telegraph was sent
from a military campsite to his home, to his village. So this is
all her report, this is all her record, and nobody knows how he
gets there. He doesn't fly, he's just a farmer. He can he
can basically do the farming. He doesn't know what to do even he feels
scared in the city. So this is one of the important cases. And
the UFO Beijing UFO Research Society actually said researchers are very famous UFO researchers in
Beijing. His name's Shan, it's pretty much the same name to everybody.
But he studied in these cases and he actually involved in uh. He went
to a Beijing university and find a doctor to do the hypnosis to these guys
and trying to find out information. But during the hypnosis, he actually remembered
two people dressing like a policeman and fly with him. When I talked about
flying, they're not sitting in the UFO, they're not sitting in a flying
sources. They were flying like Superman. Like Superman. Two of them has
got him flying on the air and then find and then they arrived to somewhere
and then they and then after that he doesn't remember anything, but that is
what they can get from the hyoses. So this is one of the UFO
abduction cases in China. And of course back then they don't know much about
the alien and all the things you are talking about. Nineteen seventy seven.
They will treat this as really mystery cases. But they have report, they
have record, they have all the document thing store all these days. Even
the TV broadcast this story as well. So later on when we more and
more ufful cases appear and this one is also treated as one of the alien
apduction case. That is quite the story. I'm going to get more into
that. We're ready for our second and final break. So my guest is
Chuck Faye, and we're going to be going to break. We'll be right
back right after these messages hanging there. All right, welcome back. This
is Martin Willis with podcast UFO, and my guest is a Check Faye.
And we were talking about this very strange and interesting case. And to think
that the person that I don't know if it was some type of abduction or
whatever, kept landing in these little towns far away somehow. And did you
say, Chuck, did you say that it appeared to be like police officers
or something that was And during his regression hypnotism, did he say, what
was our military? What was that? Again? Well, remember he is
a farmer, so he doesn't really can tell whether the policeman or their the
military but he can tell these two guys wearing uniform during the hypnosis. Now
the hypnosis, who he doesn't remember how he gets to the different cities right,
how he go to a far distance. So during the hypnosis, he
remember flying together with two persons, two gentlemen, and these two gentlemen are
wearing uniforms. He remember probably police department, from the police department or from
the military. He doesn't really tell, but he remember they're wearing uniforms.
And you know, it's hard to believe for most of the people. They've
the old people all think he's crazy. But remember when we look at the
UFO case abduction cases in the States or the other countries. So many times
the after keys of contact with some of the military person even they're lying on
the examination tables with the grays, you know, their examination on them,
they still see some military involved and they saw people who wearing uniform from behind.
So it's pretty much the same situation he remembered, you know, with
contact with military, and they brought him fly all the way. So I
when I have in mind and what the most of the youthful researches in mind
about these cases, is he being abducted but probably their beings who abduct him
doesn't want to scare him, you know. So he's a farmer after all,
you know. They don't want to show their big eyes, a big
heady, you know, or maybe the reptilian faces. So they probably let
him see a policeman or probably let him see military officers, so at least
he won't feel scared, you know. And back their nineteen seventies and seventies
people from the village, people from the countryside. They also believe that the
officials, like the chair military or the policeman, they are helping the citizen,
right, so I think they would give him a piece of mind when
they fly with him. And the funny thing is a lot of UFOL abduction
cases, not only this one, but also the other two major famous abduction
cases. They don't actually get into the craft. They fly. They fly
like Superman, you know. Another and yeah, so many cases like this
the other abduction cases. Also, he remember these two gentlemen wearing military unifm
but flying together with him, and he remembered flying on the top of the
trees. So I think this is one funny phenomenon in China's abduction cases.
And then not many people actually saw the craft except one of the guys his
names Shall Shall actually saw the craft stop a park in the forest. And
he remember the craft looks like a pink bomb paddle, so he also destroyed
a pink bam paddle with a circle with a little handle on the back.
But it's a huge craft stopping inside the woods and all that. He actually
get into the wood, getting into the crafts himself. And remember I told
you he said when he get in there, he saw a very sick Chinese
girl sitting in the crowd himself. So the alien brought him and want him
to do some helping or maybe some killing to this young girl. And then
they released both of them. So the reason they brought child child is probably
he knows a little bit of medical Chinese medical methods, so he brought him
to trying to cure this Chinese girl. And then after this abduction and the
story opened up to the public and the Beijing you of a research society is
saying the same guy to find this child and do some testimony from him,
and then they went to the military hospital to do him knows us and he
tells all this story. The funny thing is they're trying to find this Chinese
sick girl because they knew they found a very quite a big distance between his
home and the way at the place he saw this craft and this Chinese girl.
So they're trying to find these girls. They bring child to a police
station and the policeman helped him to draw the faces and they actually fund actually
found this girl and this girl grow up now. And the funny thing is
this girl used to be very sick, and the family of the girl said
she's very sick, but so just totally recover in just one day. And
next day he get up to get up, she's completely healed. I mean,
all these signals are gone. But they find a little scar on the
back of his help, of this girl's help. This is where they do
the expanded the experiment in the craft with child and this girl together. So
the alien actually brings child to heal this girl. And this story have a
full report from the UFO research community and the military record and the policeman record
as well. So another official cases in China. Wow, now did that
did the farmer, the guy there that kept planning in the different towns,
did he end up getting married after all? Well, the story never tell,
But what I was told is he was a farmer. Yeah, he
only knows farming for his whole life, but after the abduction, he somehow
he got his mind some kind of knowledge so he can do invention. I
don't know what kind of invention, but probably involved into farming. But he's
just a farmer and do all this old traditional way to farm. And he
certainly know how to invent something and went some equipment to probably help him farming,
help him more faster or easier way to do the farming. I think.
I think that is some kind of brain developed as well. During a
lot of cases, a lot of induction cases, the guy have personality change,
they have the knowledgeing, they have knowledge download to their brain. I
think pretty much the same thing happened to this guy. Interesting. Interesting.
Now in the chat room, um Bob wanted to know if there's any Chinese
military cases like the tic Tac toe I mean, I'm sorry, the tic
Tac tictak Ufoum office San Diego. Are there any military cases that are aware
of where there was a military encounter, any cases like that. I definitely
believe so, and uh, I can share one of the cases happening two
thousand eighteen, which is last year. Uh. There there is a C
one C one airport. One International airport is away a little bit way on
the north Um. The air broad shutdown one day. People who's yelling and
screaming and all that because they're angry because of the airport shut down, like
eighteen hours as far as I remember. The reason they shut it down,
the official reason is that they're doing military experiment or military research or something,
so they have to shut down the airport. But the point is there are
military guys, their soldiers in the airport and they're in a hurry to fly
back to Beijing to report something. So the reason, the real reason they
shut down is because some of the some of the passenger who've been stuck in
the building of the airport. They actually film a UFO flying uffering on the
airport itself, so we have military witness. But I think I think the
military actually involved into the study. But the case is again, when when
this case are studied by the military, they never really open up the case.
The more you can. The only thing you can tell is it reports
it on the TV on the new section again on the Officials TV broadcast station.
So so I think, I think the military do actually involve into this
kind of research, but they never really open up the story. When they
decided not to open up the story, there is no way you can find
out unless you know the whistle blower from the military itself. But it's really
rare in China because UM, yes, go ahead, Now, what year
did you say that in particular happened? Um. I think it's too that
I don't have the data right now, but I remember there's that two thousand,
two thousand, not so many UFO hovering in the airport. Yeah,
because we have Paul Ja in the chat room, I was asking if you
could talk about now, I don't know how to pronounce it, the Zayoshan
airport shut down in two thousand and ten. It's a it's says the airport
starts with that X I A O S H A n uh. I know
you have to translate that into Chinese. But um, but um, I
have heard of the airport airport shutdowns um in China, But I thought it
was like a year ago, and I wasn't familiar with this two thousand and
ten one that that that Paul posted in the chat room. Well, I
think we have quite a few times the airport shut down because of the UFO.
UM, but one of the most the case because I remember I mentioned
this on the other the other media. Um, it was two thousand and
eighteen. But I deeply believe if somebody mentioned about two thousand and ten,
it happens before. No, two thousand and eighteen is not. It's definitely
not the first time. I think it happens before many times, um,
but nobody really talks about it. And you know, trying to China people,
you know, they're having a development the society, you know, the
financials and the politicals and technology or everything is growing up. So UFOs the
last thing they really focus on. So we have report, we have people
told us, um they saw the uf when the shut down. But the
point is they don't really care about it. They don't really do a lot
of research on it. So as long as the airport reopened again and people
go back to their normal life and for people will forget about the whole thing.
Yeah yeah, UM. So are there any other the case you mentioned,
Are there any other cases that that are real big one? At this
point, Well, let me why don't we share the story in China in
Hong Kong. Okay, yeah, yeah, its Hong Kong is part of
China as well. But when it happens happened in nineteen eighty five, like
the one I mentioned, that's huge mothership. Um is a huge one.
So we remember I told you, in Hong Kong people we are living in
buildings. Not many people live in the house. We live in buildings and
small buildings. More flag in one flag or we leave five people or five
family in the four hundred square feet area. So it's pretty tight, you
know in Hong Kong. Well, um, I remember these places is named
Aberdeen. Aberdeen is famous places in the south area of Hong Kong, and
the people who live their facing the sea basing the ocean. Um one of
the night around six thirty, around seven thirty put it this way. Then
thirty is people who are supposed to finish work and go home. And one
of the village one of the X stage put it this way as state buildings,
people who live there. And one of the women who lived there when
the mom told him to close the window because of two windy outside. So
when she went out to close the window, she saw a huge he mentioned
is she mentioned is about the size of a stadium, a huge UFO stopping
offering in the middle of the air, and this this crime is actually stopped
and huffering about a building above the building, and it was so windy outside.
She remembered she saw thousands of colorful lights at at the bottom of the
craft. And she remember people who walk on the street and who also look
up to the sky that probably like hundred or probably thousand people who saw it.
Now, the funny thing is people always think this is only one cases
and one one crisis in Aberdeen, but people don't know. According to mine
investigate, people don't know this craft actually arrived more than two times or three
times, because once it is arrived in the midnight. I remember this guy
who called me and told me he supposed to He was sleeping and then he
suddenly feeled the building is shaking. At first he thought it's a earthquake,
so he get up. He remembered something, you know, something like decoration
things that hang on the walls, you know, fell fell down on the
ground because of shaking. It's too shaky, So he went out to the
buildings. He went out to the window and tried to look what's happening.
But when he went out, he saw the people on the opposite side of
the building. On the opposite building. Remember that was like one or two
am. It was quiet and people were sleeping. All the lights are out,
and he remembered the opposite side of the building. People look out the
window and pointing at the window, pointing out the sky. They pointing to
the opposite side, which is the building he lived. So he went out
to the stairway and they have a better look. On the top wheel of
the building, he saw hexagon shape, huge mother ship. Also he described
as big as a stadium. Hoffering on top of the building. But that
was one PM. The cases I mentioned before, it is six or seven
eight seven pm. Now this is one or two am, so there are
at least two cases. But they're all stopping in the same building. That's
the funny thing it is. You know, on the state they have many
buildings, but the uf always hoffering at the same building. Nobody knows why.
And then after a few years and then another guy who called me and
he said, no, no, no, all these cases are not right
because the time I saw the UFO is at four am. It's about two
about the sun the sunset the sunrise. So he said, this guy is
a taxi driver. He said, I go out to work, you know,
even before the sky alights, before the sky is still dark. He
went out to work. He went out work. As soon as he get
into the taxi into the cab, and he saw these huge UFOL craft hovering
on the top of the building with a kind of a spotlight pointing to the
rooftop of the building. But also happened in the same building. Nobody knows
why. It's uf A offering a few times in this Aberdeen area, but
they also offering at the same building. There's like more than like six or
seven building in the same area, but it only happened only hovering on one
building. So this is one of the cases. And this is widely report
in Hong Kong here and it's one of the very famous case. It just
it even recorded in the Roswell uf Old Museum. The case is also reporting
Roswell, you have a museum. So it's a famous case in China,
in Hong Kong, and one of the most famous case. And during all
this year when I do the research and my own program, and people who
come up to me and told me, they've been abducted by aliens. You
know. One of the women. His name is Ma. We told him
Ma. We call him, we call her Ma. She wrote me an
email at two thousand and twelve, and I was writing a book. I
don't know what to put in there. I don't want to put just a
simple, rful story into the book. So I was kind of stuck and
I was waiting. I was writing in front of the computer. And I
remember one of the lunch one of the afternoon, after my lunch, and
I suddenly received an email and from this lady's Ma. She just told me
she thinks she's crazy and she really needs help, and she asking whether she
can meet me. So I don't know her, so I sent her back
an email. I say, can you leave me a phone number so we
can talk, And she replied the email like three seconds with the phone number.
So you can tell she's actually waiting, desperately waiting next to the computers
wait for the response. So I call her right away, and she cried
right away, really crying. So I told I answer her what happened?
She tells, She keeps telling me she saw all this picture when she get
up the pictures in her brain. All this image suddenly fresh up a lot
of like flash bag in her brain, but she doesn't know. She remember
sawing some of the hand. She remember saw the hand covering her face.
The hand I remember the first time she mentioned a hands like a chicken feet
but covering her face. And she was scared. And the next image she
remember is somewhere insire hanger. And then next in from next flashbacks, next
image she remember is a lot of shadow, a lot of people walking around,
but they are not really people. They're not really human, you know,
some human noise walking around her. And she was so scared. So
we we met a few days later. And the reason I want to met
up because I want to make sure she's not crazy and the way she talks
is completely normal. As soon as we talked about the UFO, she cried.
So we after two months, we brought her to a hypnosis therapy and
she is this hypnosis therapy is is a very open mind. Lady um.
She promised to do it. She never really do that before, but she
promised to try. And during the hypnosis, this woman remembered the missing time.
This woman remember what happened during the missing time? Oh, I never
mentioned about the missing time is she was like a potato couch who didn't like
seeing the solver and watching TV. That's what she does every day. Um.
She remember one day morning watching TV and a program at home and it
was the program replay at eleven thirty in the morning. So she loved this
drama. So she keep watching it and keep watching it, and suddenly she
remember there were some lights flashing into the window from outside, so she went
out. She went to the window and tried to take a look. What's
flashing the window and then she saw a metal play, like a rectangular red
metal play hanging hovering in the sky. Nothing on the top hanging this this
metal, but it's like a big piece of rectangle metal and the corner of
the red the metal have a red light flashing to the window. So she
was kind of she feels weird, she doesn't know what. She tried to
figure out what that was, but the light flashing to her, so she
was kind of scared and hiding on the corner of the window. Tried to
take a good pre real but also you know a little bit like scaring and
looking and hiding, looking and hiding again. So after like two minutes,
these things disappear, so she realized, okay, let's disappear. She doesn't
know what that was, but she she just doesn't care. So she went
back to watch the TV and realized the programmer no longer playing. It was
playing a program in the afternoon, so she looked at the clock. She
realized, you had three hours missing, and that's tricker. Her really scared
about the whole thing. And then the next morning she got all these pictures
or all these emage and then she decided to send me an email. She
doesn't know me at all. She just asked her friend what should I do?
What should I do? Right? Have something happened like this? And
her friend told him, Okay, you can try to write an email to
Chuck Fay because Chuck Fay do a lot of UFO research in Hong Kong,
and I'm lucky enough to get onto local TV, so people knows me.
So he that's why she should find me, to find my contact from Facebook
and send me in an email. And that's the story after that. And
then during the he knows this, she remembered during the missing time, she
actually walked through the wall and the window and standing in the middle of the
airs. You remember a red car and a taxi behind I mean, I
mean down below her feet. She was standing in the middle of the air,
and she looked up. She saw the craft, not the red tangle
played, but a craft, a uf a craft like a traditional craft on
the top of her head. And then the next memory she got and she
was already lying on the table. She didn't get naked, she just wearing
what she wear. But she remember a big metal boxes all the way,
you know, sticking to her belly, a boxes. She doesn't remember terrible
experiment and painful and people, the alien, no punging, the pin in
her head or all these things. She doesn't remember all these things, but
she remembered the whole time she was inside the craft. There's a big piece
of metal box sticking like a bout, sticking on her belly area. And
she remember the faces of the humanoid. They were shot, but they were
not graces. They have human eyes like the eyes with the whiten the pupils,
black area um, but they're kind of bigger head with a lot of
winkle on their face. They're not like a traditional gray with big eyes.
They have small eyes like human but they were shot and they have winkle face,
and they kind of everybody, every all all these beings that looks like
the same. I remember she draw me the sketching and all these beings wearing
a black or dark gray dress with a hook so they can cover their face.
Sometimes. Well, all these things happen. She changed completely after all
this year. Even now, she still have a lot of downloads information downloads
to her brain, and she can tell futures, you know, she can
tell me when my book will finish and launch out. We he's supposed to
finish our book on July. I was writing the book on March. We're
supposed to finish the book on July, but I won't be able to finish
it. And the first few days she contact me, she said, no,
your book will not finish. Your book will be finished by the middle
of December. I said, how do you know? Said, they told
me. They want me to tell you your book will only be launched by
the middle of December. That's really what's happening, because I finished my book
by November and of November, and then they send it to the mainland to
China to print it. And by the time the book arrived, the bookstore.
It was eighteenth of December. I said, how do you know that?
She said, she said, I don't know, but they told me.
They told me, they tell me to tell you your book will not
finish. And then after a few years, she seems like she can tell
what's about to happen in the future. So I mean, I mean,
I don't know how, but this guy, these ladies come quickly changed.
Now she's not watching TV anymore. So she's focusing on quantum physics, focusing
on cosmical physics, is focusing on religion, focusing on the society and the
human life, focusing on the conspiracy, focusing on animal rights. So I
don't know how to change all this. And I tried to get the proof.
You know, quantum physics. I know nothing about quantum physics. So,
by the way she finished tell me what she knew, I tried to
get the proof from a professor from a university, and this professor told me
whatever she said is completely completely in the book. So I don't know how
she got all this information. But she told me, keep telling me all
this information download from the alien who at her. That's something I can like
explain. That's interesting. I had a conversation with Kathy Marden. You know,
she's a niece of you know she is, Yeah, and she this
was a few years ago, and she said that, um, you know
a number of people are saying that they that are being abducted that say they
they feel like they go right through the walls. And she said, and
which I think is pretty bizarre, you know for sure. And she said
that she's talked to physicists and said, at a certain vibration, you know,
something like this can happen, which is uh, I don't know.
That's it's pretty wild stories, but it's it's still interesting. I'm not sure
if there's actually anything to it, but you never know. It's it's it's
it's just another mystery. And the chat room. Uh. Digger Dog wanted
to know if there's any place in China that similar to like the skin Walker
Ranch where you know, maybe a hotspot or a lot of paranormal activity going
on any place. Well, I actually went went to the gates of Skinwalker
Range last October and it was so scary, you know, scary myself.
I even have a little weird experience after that. But in China, I
don't I don't know about the places. You know, in Skinwalker Range,
people describe its probably a podle where all this bakefoot, all this alien,
all this paranormals happens, you know, monsters and unbelievable shape of ufo happening
in Skinwalker Range. But in China, I doubt, Okay, I never
really heard about story about that. But even if they have, even if
China have a place like this, because of involving on paranormal involving on,
won't be able to talk about it. But I don't remember I read anything
about the Skinwalker Range story in China. But I can tell a little weird
experience. After we visited Skinwalker Range the gate, we went to film something
in local team here and we went to the state, actually went to the
state to West Virginia, Ohio, trying to find Bigfoot and you know,
moth Man Festival and fed with Monster Festival and all that. We went to
Skinwalker Range in Utah and people were scared. People who live in the area
are scared. You know. We went to a supermarket and trying to find
people talk about it. And then two Native American lady who works in the
supermarket, we speak English, and we asked them whether you know anything talk
about the Skinwalker range, and they were kind of scared and trying to whisper
to us and said, no, we don't really talk about it because when
we talk about it, we believe the bad luck, the bad thing will
happen to us. So that's it. So you just basically reject our questions.
So that's why. Then okay, we respect that. And then were
standing aside and waiting what to do and talking, discussing what to do,
and we can see these girls speaking by their language themselves and the way they
talk. They obviously discussing about the the cases, the story and skin Worker
range. And I remember they're giving the gesture. The whole group of girls
talking to each other in their language which we don't know, but you can
tell their faces, the expressions, their gesture. They're actually talking about weird
story in the skin Worker arrange. So after the visiting, after the feeling,
I went back to the hotel and sleep, and the people who sleep
in the next next to me and one of the film crew sleeping in the
same room, and I was sleeping, and the whole night, the whole
night, even until to the next morning, there were sons whispering next to
my year. I thought at first, I thought that was people in the
next room playing radio or playing or having a conversation with somebody. But the
thing is, I don't understand what the boy is talking about, but the
voice is talking. And stop. Think about it. When you listen to
radio, they have stopping, they have break time, they have conversals.
When people's conversation with friends, you know they're stopping. You know there are
people who stop and then the other person who joined the conversation. But it's
nothing like that. It seems like a curse. Somebody was cursing next to
my year, my right here all night, all night until the next morning
when I get up, and the sounds keep happening in my years. And
then I got really sick after that, and the whole film crew got sick
after that, and that was lucky. There was almost the last few days
of the filming in three weeks, so that was the last section. So
everybody got back Hong Kong with flu or maybe fever, and everybody got sick
after the skinwalk arranged with it. So that is my experience, and I
feel really really some kind of dark energy and that area surrounding that area,
so we I'm scared myself. Wow, that's something that is really something else.
Another question in the chat room, someone wanted to know if there's anything
UM like that we have here Area fifty one. Do you have any experimental
uh you know, military aircraft areas that are top secret or is that something
you would never even know about. I believe they have, but I'm not
sure whether they have the well, um in the way Love North area what
I told, I was told there is an area there's in a secret place
like probably like an air force or like like a military base, but it's
similar to air for Area fifty one. People have signing over there, but
the government and well, at first the people never really ask and the government
never really tell so we as but in during the UFO research researchers in China
and Hong Kong, we believe are places like this, but the government never
ever really talks about it. M hmmm, yeah, I bet um.
Now what about UM you know, we have a we have a TV show
here. I'm sure you're very familiar with ancient aliens Uma. Is there any
talk in China about um, you know, Asian alien ancient you know type
things going on somehow my phone just heard me say SERI somehow and just went
went wild here. Um, yeah, is there any any talk about you
know, ancient cases of UFOs. Oh, most of the people don't know
that. China, Chinese people, we all believe we our ancestor dragon and
according to a lot of reports, a lot of writing, a lot of
articles from all these thousand years back then, this I mean, the old
Asian Chinese have a lot of UFOs writing. And I don't know whether you
heard about the disc they're in some way north duper disc that people find out
some uh disc like a like a like an album disc like ah, like
a shape like underground, right, they found these underground or something. They
find it undersground, underground and they find some kind of writing on it and
not writing on it and writing next to it, and the writing that actually
report um the ugly person ugly people. They called it ugly because they were
sought and ugly, so ugly in the sense they looked weird. So um
ugly people who arrive to this this area and leaving underground and then they have
wars and then and then they I mean these people actually made with some of
the village woman and then they believe there they were the ancestors of this area.
And I mean put it this way many it happens many many years ago.
So they believe they have alien blood bloodline in their in their body.
Um we I remember we have um the first Emperor. We call it yellow.
The first Emperor is arrived from the sky and he fly away. He
go away when he finishes work all this year after after like probably twenty years
or something, he fly away with a craft and people don't want him to
go. So people actually ran and follow this this yellow Emperor, and then
they they try to pull him back, but he or they can do this,
they can pull his clothes but himself or go away with the craft of
all the way to the sky. So I think in the China, in
the Chinese person, they basically believe we were we or most of the Chinese
have the bloodline from the from the alien. But they don't have the word
aliens back then. They use their networkworks like fairies. They use the word
like um, like kind of the godness and all this an sister, but
they all come from the sky. So I think I think in China,
most of the Chinese believe we all have alien blood. And that's why when
I talked to Georgia or the other day many two couple of years ago,
he said, Wow, I really want to do some research on the China
area because Chinese have a lot of long history and with alien Oh by the
way, um, we have cases like um in the forest pretty much like
like the cases in Russia. Um Uh. People remember sawing a train,
a train like UM, like a steam like a steam steam train and arrived
from the sky and swap like one hundred acre of trees in the forest and
then the fly away. But by the time it fly away, it's kind
of magnetic and it actually you know, attracts some of the metal, some
of the truck on the on the ground, and the truck will will go
frount without a driver, without the engine start, but the truck go to
front like about it drive twelve meters ahead, but no driver in there.
Because it happens when the UFO this train flyaway, it seems like some kind
of magnetic and attract the metal and attract the truck and pull the truck two
works like twelve meters and this is also reported. And the forest now even
the forest right now is still the trees are still down, and the China
government actually put a banner in there and a banner with alien faces with the
UFOs with a lot of wordings and asking people if you saw anything like that,
please report to the government. That was a question I had for you.
Actually you can actually report right directly to the government. I was going
to ask you about UFO reporting and China, what that's like. Well,
usually when people saw the UFOs these days, they put it up to the
social media, but the back end before the internet, people report it to
the policeman, and it's somehow we we are somehow the policeman when you report
the case to a policeman, and it suppose a case will go to the
government, but it's somehow, um some UFO research center from Beijing will send
their researchers come out. So it's pretty much the same case, like what
you can see on the Project Blue Book. You know, you saw the
UFO, you reported to the chef, and then somehow the military will send
two guys to your area and do some questionnaire, do some questions and and
and research and do something investigate. So it's pretty much the same thing.
I believe That's why I believe and most of the people believe that you have
for research. Society are so connected to the government. So when you report
the case to a policeman, and the policeman goes up to probably to military
and then to the government, and the government will will assign some researchers coming
to your area and do research. That's what happens before. Interesting. Well,
so do people actually you mentioned earlier that someone knew that you did UFO
research in Hong Kong and you're on TV or on some of the shows over
there. But um, do people contact you quite often in regards to you
know, either abduction or UFO cases? Yeah, um, yes, yes,
they continue move quite often. I have uf sighting report almost every week
every week in Hong Kong. Of course, some of them can explain,
you know, some of them like a plane. Some of them probably some
phenomenon because of the crowd, sunset and all that thing. Um. But
some cases it's hard to explain, you know. We suddenly, well know,
we often receive a weird lights flying in the sky. Um at people
think maybe the spotlight from from a China area. Because I'm leaving so close
to the China. The border or between Hong Kong and China. UM.
At first we all believe it's some kind of lighting show, you know,
the light show in the mainland. But then more and more reports arrived.
We have UM seagle shape ufold. We saw people who saw a disc shape
with lights or without lights. Sometimes we saw us know things fly up from
the from the ocean. I actually do investigate. I actually went to talk
to the one of the owner of a boat. He basically owned two boats
and he drives the boat out for fishing or for partying for during weekend.
UM. One of the guys told me the captain told me they saw the
UFO in the area in in some way close to UM the Hong Kong airport.
So I actually went to talk to the captain. The captain at first
refused, he told me because he thinks it's silly anyway, but he saw
it. He saw this craft just suddenly just fly up from the from the
water, from the ocean, and it was like like a high second and
it pumps all the way all the way up to the sky and disappear.
Wow. And I and then I first think, why why does he have
to lie to me? He doesn't even want to tell me at first,
and next until I keep asking, keep asking, and then he decided to
tell me. And then during about the same time, one of my audience
who work in that area, and he went out to the building to smoke,
and then when he went out to smoke, he saw a green light
shining enough from the from the ocean itself, and then the lights moving really
fast under the water because they can see the green light in one area,
and he's suddenly moving really fast, like like one second to another side and
then stop for like five or five seconds and then moved to another area.
He said, there is no way something can drive so fast under the water
with the green light. So I believe there are so many, so many
sightings, so many cases in Hong Kong and China. It's just that people
don't really talk about it right right. Well, I've I've been at a
number of conferences where the audience has been asked, you know, how many
people here, how do you ufo sighting? And you know a great deal
of people will hold up their hands and then the person will ask, okay,
how many people reported your sighting and it's only like ten percent. And
you know, I had a sighting and I attempted to report it. I
didn't know. I called the police department. I didn't know what to do.
But anyway, it's a very small percentage of people that actually go that
to that level. Do you have is there I should know this, but
I don't. Is there move on capability? And in your area? Can
the people connected to move on? Yeah? I actually get on to the
move on the database. A couple of years ago, I realized they have
a chapter in Hong Kong. I actually even talk to some of the superwise
and move on, And I want to find out who's who's this guy who's
dealing with the Hong Kong rful cases and move on? They have a chapter,
they have, they have section, but the cases the report is really
weird and just only a few cases. Not many people knows how to report
to move on before the media. Even now, even now, even now,
I'm I'm in the list of the UFOL filling Hong Kong people and when
they saw it exciting, they only reported to me by by Facebook, by
by by social media. But they don't really report it to the officials or
to any society because they don't know how to do it. And also they
have to field in in English. It is not easier for them. But
in move On. One of the important case in move On database is people
saw a hundred more than hundred forty feet uh secor shape craft parking right outside
of a building, parking right outside the building. Wow. Um, he
thought he was crazy. But he told the taxi driver, well, they
were in the traffic jam and this guy sitting in the car and waiting because
the traffic are totally jammed up. So he said, in the car and
he saw something really far on the other side of the sky, which is
a shape seeker shape. And then after like five minutes of the jamming,
and he suddenly saw this craft parking right outside a commercial building really close.
And at first he couldn't believe his eyes. He even asked the taxi driver
what did what was that? And the taxi drivers look at it and said,
oh, I don't know what that was. And then he seems like
he forgot about the whole thing. It's pretty similar to most of the phenomenon
people who saw something unbelieved and they decided to ignore it. So this driver
carry on the drive. So he report this case to move On. You
can find this on the move On database. But after a few years we
realized there were one guy who worked inside the commercial building. He reported to
move On. He said he saw something parking right outside the building. Two
of them don't know each other even up to now I know both of them,
but two of them don't know each other. But it seems only their
testimony can prove what the other person's testimony and do were at the same day,
same time. So we have to witness on the big huge seago shape
parking outside of building in move On database. Wow wow? Now is there
is there any geo do you know? Do you know what the word geo
blocking is when it comes to websites and things like that? Um? Is
there is? There? Is that active? And I heard that was active
in China. I don't know if it still is, but that people will
block websites from other parts of the world. Does that happen in China or
or in a happened in China but not Hong Kong. Not in Hong Kong,
China, people cannot see YouTube, cannot go to Google. Wow.
Um? Well what people? People have their way to assess, but not
officially no, obviously they block Googles they block YouTube, they block Facebook,
they block Twitters, all the social media, Instagram, they all block it.
But people still able to to do it if they want to with a
VPN server or something. Yeah, wep and all these things. They people
China people are really good at this. There's no way you can keep the
information out from them. If they want to know, they have the best
way. They have the factest a way to know, and the technology are
really superb. They can assess anywhere, but only for the government. You
cannot get there, you cannot arrive officially. But in Hong Kong is different.
Hong Kong, we can go anywhere everywhere. Wow. So it's just
someone was asking why they do that, and it's basically just to control a
control thing. Really, yeah, are simple, simple answers to control,
you know, ask about why in North Korea people who don't know anything about
the whole world. That's because they have to control, They have to control
people. And they were so worry about the mind people, the mindset.
We're being changed by the whole world. So that's why when I'm talking about
the UFO cases, they allow us to office only they allow us to study
the technology, study the phenomenon but we won't be able to deeply involve into
the spiritual or the you know, what happened to the people's mind about all
this download is pretty much a tabu in in China, But in Hong Kong
we are fine. Wow. Yeah, that is a that is amazing that
there's that divide really as something else. You know, we're almost out of
time here. Now, what do you consider your just since you're talking to
an American here, what's your favorite Americ American case? My favorite American case?
There are so many cases, and it happens in the States. And
because I keep coming up to the States almost every year, well, yes
I will come. I went a few times of a conference in the West,
contact in the desert, and I know of these people and do research
and do interview with people's and so many cases. But I actually brought Trumps
Walton to Hong Kong at two thousand and remember that sharing his story. Yeah,
and I actually two years before before I brought him to Hong Kong,
I actually fly to Arisana to Snowflake to have contact with him, and he
brought me up to the sky, brought me up to the huge side where
he'd been abducted, right, I was on the phone area. I was
on the phone with him live on the show. Actually he was on the
phone for just a minute with me. Yeah, oh okay, yeah,
yea, so so um yeah, I think the most the case I'm most
fascinating is Truvis Welton t A fining this guy because he has so many documented
It's all well documented by the policeman, by the Sheriff's department, and all
his witness all his body when he went to when he being abducted. You
know, people who saw it. There is no way this is um.
This this case is so real to me. And I actually talked to him
and the way he taught you realize he's not He just actually happened to him
and it does make a big change to him. So yeah, this is
one of the case I remember the most, um, but so other cases,
so many cases I want to study. Wow, we're at the end
of our show and I want to thank you. It's been a real pleasure
talking to you tonight. Thank you. Am I am I doing okay?
Is audience understandable you've oh yeah, yeah. We've had a number of people
in the chat room say nice things, so you're all good. Okay.
If I say something which makes people don't understand, that is probably Mail Gibson's
full I'm kidding. Yeah, so yeah, all right, thank you.
All right, I'll ask you. I don't have a show engineer helping me
out tonight, so I'm gonna ask you to hang up on Skype and thank
you so much. It's been a real pleasure. All right, have a
good one. Thank you you too, all right, sure byebye now,
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