1 00:01:26,439 --> 00:01:32,439 Tonight's guest is Dustin. Dustin, Welcome to the show. Thank you, 2 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,920 Vic Well, thank you for your timing for coming on the show. I 3 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:41,280 appreciate it. Not a problem. Dustin, Please give us a brief bio 4 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:47,439 in yourself. I am I stay at home caretaker for my wife. She's 5 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:52,480 got cerebral palsy and I've been taking care of her now for the last six 6 00:01:52,599 --> 00:01:57,959 years. I'm just an all around good guy. I know it's not exactly 7 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:01,319 what people expect to hear, but that's all I got. Well, after 8 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:05,359 speaking with you at length, i'd have to agree that you are a great 9 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,199 guy. How much help has your wife been when it comes to your attempts 10 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:14,919 to come to terms with your encounter though, Well, luck, let's put 11 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:19,840 it this way, she has opened her arms as much as her mind. 12 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,039 And were it not for her comforting me the way that I need comforted, 13 00:02:24,759 --> 00:02:30,800 especially after that night, then I would probably still not know what I saw 14 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:37,319 or know the intent what goes without saying, I'm so glad she brought it 15 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,639 to your attention what you did see that night, because if you didn't know 16 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:44,800 what it was, then we never would have spoken. And speaking of that, 17 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,199 were you reluctant to reach out to me even though she recommended that you 18 00:02:47,319 --> 00:02:53,960 do. So were you motivated to do that? I was motivated. Oh 19 00:02:53,039 --> 00:02:58,879 good, you loved wolves before you had that encounter. After it happened, 20 00:02:58,879 --> 00:03:02,520 though that change? Well more? Can you tell us about that? Well? 21 00:03:04,199 --> 00:03:09,360 I was awarewolf fanatic, somewhere borderlining obsessed. I never thought they were 22 00:03:09,439 --> 00:03:20,159 real. They they just seemed like something that I could relate to somehow because 23 00:03:21,719 --> 00:03:23,719 they were big, buff and bulky, and that's the same with me. 24 00:03:24,439 --> 00:03:30,280 But I never actually thought I was one or anything. I pretended to be 25 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:37,039 when I was like six, but who doesn't when they're that age? And 26 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:42,439 wolves in general, because of my Native American heritage, I love them. 27 00:03:43,199 --> 00:03:49,560 It's my spirit animal. And because of what I saw, it changed everything. 28 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,719 My wife knew that I loved wolves, so she bought me this two 29 00:03:53,840 --> 00:04:00,319 hundred dollars tapestry of a family of wolves with a beautiful background. There was 30 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,879 little branches, puppies, a mom and a dad, an owl. In 31 00:04:03,919 --> 00:04:10,919 the background was a pink sky trees snow is beautiful. I took that down 32 00:04:12,039 --> 00:04:15,879 and I folded it up and I put it in my drawer and I hung 33 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:28,160 up a flag instead, because these nightmares that I've been having every single night 34 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:33,680 since this happened has made me not even want to look at a wolf. 35 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:39,879 And this is just a regular wolf. I can see a dog. That's 36 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:43,800 fine. I'm okay with a dog. But say, for instance, if 37 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,879 I go to National Geographic or look up some of the things that I used 38 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:55,160 to look up, such as wolves, it brings me back and it scares 39 00:04:56,240 --> 00:05:04,120 me more than it should. So because of this, I just the wolves 40 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:10,639 and stuff are taking a back seat for now. No, I understand you 41 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,319 are getting better. So do you think maybe in time you're going to be 42 00:05:14,319 --> 00:05:17,399 able to pull out that tapestry and put it back up. I hope so, 43 00:05:17,639 --> 00:05:23,600 Vic, because that was a Christmas gift and she didn't have to spend 44 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,759 that much on me, but she did. And I mean, I've got 45 00:05:27,879 --> 00:05:32,560 dragons, I've got any kind of sculpture you could think of, and I 46 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:38,199 just the werewolves and the wolves in general. It's like nope, walking the 47 00:05:38,199 --> 00:05:41,600 other way. Well, I'm not a betting man, but if I was, 48 00:05:42,079 --> 00:05:44,759 my money would be on the fact that when you're ready, you aren't 49 00:05:44,759 --> 00:05:47,480 going to put that tapestry back up. But all in good time. I 50 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:53,120 hope you don't rush to do that. No. I can barely get over 51 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:59,720 this right now, so oh sure, but everything in good time. If 52 00:05:59,759 --> 00:06:02,120 you to be a werewolf fanatic, what do you think is the best werewolf 53 00:06:02,199 --> 00:06:10,800 movie? Hands down? Van helsing second favorite is Cursed, and I think 54 00:06:10,879 --> 00:06:15,759 the third one that I absolutely adore that I actually made a Dungeons and Dragons 55 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:25,560 character after, is Hybrid and the show is basically without well, I mean, 56 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:30,120 I'm sure people have seen it, so I'm not really gonna not spoil 57 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:34,720 anything. It's been out for a while, but there was a wolf on 58 00:06:34,759 --> 00:06:42,480 the reservation that was ran over, so this not a whole lady took it 59 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:47,319 to a genetic lab so she could, you know, study it, figure 60 00:06:47,319 --> 00:06:51,879 out, you know, the musculature and all that. Well, they got 61 00:06:51,879 --> 00:06:59,000 a grant. So one of these individuals was in an accident and he lost 62 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:04,399 his eyesight. So the doctors basically took the eyes and put them in the 63 00:07:04,439 --> 00:07:10,199 man. And because of this, the man inherited traits of the wolf. 64 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:15,439 So while he looked human, he had gold eyes. And it just it's 65 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:21,040 a wonderful, wonderful story, wonderful movie that does sound like a good movie. 66 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,600 I've never seen it, so yeah, I'm gonna have to check that 67 00:07:24,639 --> 00:07:28,319 out. I am kind of disappointed, though, Dustin, you didn't mention 68 00:07:28,439 --> 00:07:32,959 Bad Moon that too. Guttle of Bad Moon and Ginger Snaps. Yeah, 69 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:38,040 those are all good movies. You do have a good taste. You had 70 00:07:38,079 --> 00:07:41,399 a lot of trouble telling me about your encounter the first time we spoke. 71 00:07:41,839 --> 00:07:47,680 How are you feeling about it now? It's still fresh, so I'm pretty 72 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:55,839 sure I'm gonna get nervous again, but I will do my best to push 73 00:07:55,879 --> 00:08:00,759 through it because the seven magical words you told me, but it didn't want 74 00:08:00,759 --> 00:08:03,639 to hurt me. Well, it's only natural You're going to get nervous thinking 75 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:07,360 about it. We're in the early stages. I mean, you have the 76 00:08:07,439 --> 00:08:11,639 encounter last Tuesday, for goodness sake, So it's gonna take time. But 77 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,160 this is going to get a lot better and a lot easier to deal with, 78 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:20,560 So I'm happy about that. What kinds of problems have you been dealing 79 00:08:20,639 --> 00:08:24,600 with? Is a direct result of that experience though? Well? The problems 80 00:08:24,639 --> 00:08:30,639 every day that I've been having. I can't sleep anyway for some reason, 81 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:37,399 I have insomnia or a by product thereof, and I just haven't been able 82 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:43,080 to sleep, so when I do finally fall asleep, I wake up maybe 83 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:48,320 in three hours, in cold sweats and screaming. I've woken the roommate up 84 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:54,679 of woken my wife up, and they both rush in and try to comfort 85 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,120 me. But all I can do is have this one hundred yards stare and 86 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:05,120 shake back. And even when I'm out on the road, like my best 87 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:09,480 friend Seth that was with me that night, he works at McDonald's, so 88 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:15,159 I have to travel by interstate in order to get there, and every time, 89 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:20,159 no matter if it's just a reflector like say on the back of a 90 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:24,519 guy that's walking on the road, or a tail light off in the distance, 91 00:09:24,639 --> 00:09:30,120 or even headlights, it brings me back to that night and I get 92 00:09:30,159 --> 00:09:33,159 it in a panic attack. I mean, it doesn't prohibit me from driving, 93 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:37,799 of course, but I have had to pull over twice and put the 94 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:43,600 car in park just to let it out. Well, like I told you, 95 00:09:43,639 --> 00:09:46,039 all those effects are pretty normal when it comes to an eyewitness trying to 96 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:50,480 come to terms with their encounter. We are in the early stages. Like 97 00:09:50,639 --> 00:09:54,840 also said again, that encounter happened last Tuesday, so hasn't even been two 98 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,360 weeks, so you're gonna have to work your way through this. But after 99 00:09:58,399 --> 00:10:03,000 that conversation we had, I think you can do it. It's just going 100 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:07,120 to take time, and you're gonna have to focus on recalling the seven magic 101 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:11,320 words and not letting that experience get the better of you, not looking at 102 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:15,679 that experience in ways that have nothing to do with reality, and we, 103 00:10:15,759 --> 00:10:18,200 like I told you, I'm pretty sure you can do that. If you've 104 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,919 had a dog me an encounter, would like to speak with me about it, 105 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,759 whether I'm private or on this show, please go to dog Mean Encounters 106 00:10:24,799 --> 00:10:28,960 dot com and submit a report. If you've had a bigfoot sighting and we'd 107 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,200 like to be a guest on one of my two bigfoot shows, please go 108 00:10:33,279 --> 00:10:37,039 to my Bigfoot Sighting dot com and let me know. Well, Dustin, 109 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:41,320 are you ready to tell us about your encounter now? If you'd like to 110 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,399 talk more before you tell us about it, we can do that. There's 111 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:50,159 no rush, Just say the word. I don't mind explaining my encounter all 112 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:54,679 r than Dustin. Please tell us about your encounter now, give us every 113 00:10:54,759 --> 00:11:01,440 last detail that comes to mind. I have a best he's my neighbor, 114 00:11:01,039 --> 00:11:07,480 but I met him probably about two years ago, and we clicked. We're 115 00:11:07,519 --> 00:11:15,320 inseparable now and he has been more helpful to me than my flesh and blood 116 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:24,200 has. So, as you know, I live in West Virginia. I 117 00:11:24,279 --> 00:11:28,240 will not give the county because hard to know what happens when you give county 118 00:11:28,279 --> 00:11:33,600 information out. Let's just say that I lived two hours away from Webster County 119 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:41,799 and where we were going was Grassy Creek. I've never been to Webster County 120 00:11:41,799 --> 00:11:45,200 except for one time, and that was to see the small little town. 121 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:54,799 They have one go Mart, some stores that basically aren't active, one gas 122 00:11:54,799 --> 00:12:00,519 station, and it's like you drive through it and you miss it. The 123 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:09,080 hospital is tiny. It's just a very very poor county. So on the 124 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:13,679 way, Seth was telling me, I don't think your roommate will be able 125 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:18,679 to handle this drive. It is two hours and it's full of twisting and 126 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:24,120 turning roads. I don't have motion sickness. I don't have car sickness, 127 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:31,600 and even I got sick six times. He and I were driving. We 128 00:12:31,759 --> 00:12:41,159 left about seven seven or eight and we got there. The roads were long, 129 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:48,879 curvy, a lot of forests. I've been through places on the way 130 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:56,600 there that the woods are so dense you can't even see through the trees, 131 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:07,200 and that's saying something. So we keep driving. We're listening to music, 132 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:09,960 and we get to where we need to go, which is Grassy Creek. 133 00:13:11,399 --> 00:13:16,320 And as far as I'm told, Grassy Creek is a very long, long 134 00:13:16,399 --> 00:13:22,559 road, probably about fifty miles before it dead ends and turns around. There's 135 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:28,639 a lot of people on a lot of unwanted things up there, and I'll 136 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:33,360 leave it at that. So we pull into the Grassy Creek Road, the 137 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:39,399 turn off from the main highway to get to his father's grave. Because it 138 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:43,320 was the day after Memorial Day. He wanted to put flowers on his father's 139 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:48,679 grave. Couldn't do it Monday, so his only day off was Tuesday and 140 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:54,440 Wednesday, so we decided that we'd go Tuesday. We get there about I 141 00:13:54,559 --> 00:14:05,679 want to say nine thirty roughly, and I had this very bad feeling. 142 00:14:05,799 --> 00:14:11,960 But even before that that I should have taken into consideration was the nosebleed that 143 00:14:13,039 --> 00:14:18,320 I had. And I have a white car anyway, so you can kind 144 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:22,200 of tell where I had the nosebleed because my window was down and I got 145 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:28,600 sick again because of the curves. So I went to puke and then the 146 00:14:28,639 --> 00:14:31,799 next thing, I know, both of my nose holes gushed. It was 147 00:14:31,879 --> 00:14:39,120 like being like a stuck pig. It just pulled and gushed. So it 148 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:43,360 took me, I want to say, five minutes guesstimate to get it under 149 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:48,200 control before we moved on. And this road's got a lot of curves too, 150 00:14:48,279 --> 00:14:52,799 but it's not as bad as the main road. So the road itself, 151 00:14:54,559 --> 00:14:58,879 it had a picket fence, not white, but kind of like a 152 00:14:58,919 --> 00:15:05,759 barbed wire fence that you used to keep livestock in. And that was on 153 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:09,720 the way there, and it was a thirty five mile per hour road. 154 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:13,600 And I don't remember exactly how wide the road was, but I do know 155 00:15:13,679 --> 00:15:20,360 that it was. It had two lines. So we get there at about 156 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:26,480 nine thirty. It's dark. Last thing I remember seeing was a white trailer. 157 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,360 It looked like a double wide if you want to call it. One 158 00:15:31,679 --> 00:15:37,200 across the road from where the car was originally parked and to the left on 159 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:41,320 Seth's driver's side, because it did let him drive my car because he knew 160 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,960 where everything was and I didn't. I didn't want to get us lost. 161 00:15:46,159 --> 00:15:52,159 There was a bunch of mailboxes straight ahead of us was a gravel parking lot, 162 00:15:52,799 --> 00:15:58,639 and it's a straight walk up a tiny little hill to get to the 163 00:15:58,759 --> 00:16:04,639 church. This church is probably about three hundred feet by three hundred feet. 164 00:16:04,679 --> 00:16:10,600 It's a big church, but it's small at the same time. It's longer 165 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:15,519 than it is wide, I guess, and there were lots of windows in 166 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:21,720 it, lots of little candles with curtains seth and I start walking up beside 167 00:16:21,759 --> 00:16:25,759 of the church because I couldn't follow him down over a hill the grass was 168 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:30,360 up. I'm terrified of snakes. I didn't want bit. I was wearing 169 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:34,960 my shorts and my shoes, so I didn't really have any protection anyway. 170 00:16:36,039 --> 00:16:41,240 So we decided we'd go up alongside of the church and try to not step 171 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:49,759 on graves. We walked probably about fifteen twenty more feet from where the last 172 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:55,960 gravestone that I saw was, and he continued to walk on down the hill 173 00:16:56,759 --> 00:17:04,920 because his father, his grave is tucked into a corner that is fenced off. 174 00:17:07,279 --> 00:17:14,400 So he walks down and there's this white little shed with a maroon colored 175 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:18,480 roof, and beside of that is a white trailer that's stretched out long ways. 176 00:17:18,759 --> 00:17:22,599 I didn't get much detail on the trailer, but I knew it was 177 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:26,119 a trailer, because what else could it be. And he walks up to 178 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:33,480 his father's grave, and we both have our phones, of course, because 179 00:17:33,519 --> 00:17:40,160 neither one of us has a flashlight. And keep in mind that the only 180 00:17:40,279 --> 00:17:45,599 light source that I did have was the telephone pole with the light on it. 181 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:52,079 A pole and a light about twenty feet to my right. It's down 182 00:17:52,079 --> 00:17:56,599 the hill a little bit, but you can still see. And there was 183 00:17:57,519 --> 00:18:04,960 fog, eerie kind of fog because he did brain that day. And Seth 184 00:18:06,079 --> 00:18:08,759 is at his father's grave. He bought these two little flags from Walmart, 185 00:18:08,839 --> 00:18:15,200 which I thought are cool. He also bought flowers. He couldn't find any 186 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,240 of Walmart. They were sold out, so he went to the dollar store 187 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:26,599 and he picked something up and it was a little pretty vase. The vase 188 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:32,279 itself was white with black speckles, and it was kind of oddly shaped, 189 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:38,079 but it worked. It was a vase. So he's down there fixing his 190 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:44,880 father's grave up, and I'm standing up there on the hill. So I'm 191 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:49,640 looking around and there's different kind of mausoleums or tombstones. I want to say. 192 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:57,079 There was a round, arched one there was a soldier one that I 193 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:02,240 do remember, and then there was something. And they take real good care 194 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:07,440 of the graves there because there's lighting around the graves. That way, if 195 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,720 you come out at night and you want to visit the cemetery for your loved 196 00:19:10,759 --> 00:19:17,799 one, you can see what you're doing. And down below catock cornered or 197 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:22,799 off too. If you're staring front ways with your back turned to the trailer, 198 00:19:22,559 --> 00:19:29,880 there's a brown house that's cadock cornered and it had white shutters. Behind 199 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:37,720 that was an old cream and Cream in maroon or red truck with a hatchback 200 00:19:37,759 --> 00:19:41,839 on the back. I guess that's what it's called. I don't want to 201 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,039 say a camper because that's too big. It's just one of those things you 202 00:19:45,079 --> 00:19:48,759 put over the back of a truck. When you pull the tailgate down and 203 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:53,400 open up the glass, you have access and it keeps everything from getting wet. 204 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:59,359 And beside of that was an old van that was missing a tire. 205 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:04,920 Acrost. From that brown house was a two story white house, beautiful house. 206 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:10,440 They took real good care of it, and it was a farmhouse. 207 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:15,359 And then off to the side of that house was a camper. This camper 208 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:22,759 in particular. I remember it like like it was yesterday, because it wasn't 209 00:20:22,799 --> 00:20:26,599 an RV, but it was like a truck with a camper on the back 210 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:33,440 of it that comes out, I guess, and the camper itself the truck 211 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:37,000 was I want to say, black, and the rest of it was kind 212 00:20:37,039 --> 00:20:42,440 of like a cream or a tan and black. So, being a medium, 213 00:20:42,519 --> 00:20:48,519 you know, I was looking around the cemetery to see where everything was, 214 00:20:48,599 --> 00:20:52,559 to try and figure out if I could see anything or hear anything. 215 00:20:55,000 --> 00:21:03,160 And after about two minutes of looking around, I heard a soft echoy voice, 216 00:21:04,079 --> 00:21:11,200 look up and ahead. So my first instinct is to look and check 217 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:15,559 on Seth. And he's not even paying attention to me, because he's taken 218 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:21,680 the used flowers out and putting the ones that he bought down in the vase 219 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:30,599 and rearranging his father's headstone. And I turned my head back into the direction 220 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:37,000 of that camper, and what I saw were two orangish yellow eyes. They 221 00:21:37,039 --> 00:21:42,759 weren't glowing, but as I said when you spoke to me first, the 222 00:21:42,799 --> 00:21:48,640 moon was at quarter stage of the lunar monthly cycle, so it gave some 223 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,920 light, but it didn't give a lot of light. But it gave me 224 00:21:52,079 --> 00:21:57,680 just enough to where I could make out two eyes, and they weren't a 225 00:21:57,799 --> 00:22:03,000 dear eye, a deer's eyes face, you know, kind of like a 226 00:22:03,039 --> 00:22:11,559 horse's. But this I knew was a predator because the way its eyes faced. 227 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:21,680 So I'm like, what in the world is this? And I took 228 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:26,119 a step to the right, and it did the same, took a step 229 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:32,079 back to the left where I originally stood. Those eyes followed me and they 230 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:40,079 blinked like like I would. So around this time, I'm gonna say it 231 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:45,119 was about nine forty twenty minutes away from being ten o'clock at night, and 232 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,319 these people I didn't want to wake them up and be like, seth, 233 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:53,119 we gotta go. So I waited for about ten minutes for him to finish, 234 00:22:53,799 --> 00:22:57,759 and he walks up the hill and I'm like you good. He was 235 00:22:57,799 --> 00:23:03,680 like yeah, So we go back the way we came and we reached the 236 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:12,759 car, and he being a silly butt, that he has left the keys 237 00:23:14,559 --> 00:23:18,680 to the car beside of his father's graves, so that meant he had to 238 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,599 go all the way back just to get them, and I tore my meniscus 239 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:30,519 so I really couldn't walk up that hill again without pain. So he said, 240 00:23:30,559 --> 00:23:33,400 stay by the car, I'll go get the keys. I'm like, 241 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:41,839 all right. Seth takes a short cut route up to the left side of 242 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,079 this church, and it was faster to get to his father that way, 243 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:51,400 so he pretty much jogged the whole way there with his phone. And I 244 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:57,720 had my phone. So when I turned my head back to the way that 245 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:03,359 Seth and I had just came from, those eyes were there again, and 246 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:10,799 they were blinking at me. They were moving like this thing was canting its 247 00:24:10,799 --> 00:24:15,640 head or turning its head to a certain degree and it was blinking at me. 248 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:25,440 And I'm like, holy crap. So I took pictures, these pictures. 249 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,400 You know, I didn't notice anything. I didn't even look at him 250 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,880 until I got home because I'm like, well, you know, my wife 251 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,680 would want to see where I'm at. You know, she loves country, 252 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:40,279 loves she loves the woods, she loves nature. So I'm gonna take pictures. 253 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:48,920 And then that is when I felt the dread. The dread that I 254 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:59,319 felt was undescribable. And keep in mind that everything was dead quiet, no 255 00:24:59,519 --> 00:25:04,559 sounds from the wildlife and the forest. Nothing. Usually there's tree frogs, 256 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:11,640 there's crickets, there's anything you could think of, even a hoot owl sometimes 257 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:18,440 that make noises in the woods. And everything was dead silent. Combined the 258 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:25,400 fog with the rotten flesh that I smelled, that made me sick to my 259 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:33,160 stomach, and I was freaking out. My right hand was behind me, 260 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:40,680 my left was holding my phone snapping pictures. And here's the kicker. I 261 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:45,920 took a picture of the white trailer that's across the road from where our car 262 00:25:45,039 --> 00:25:52,920 is parked, and I didn't look at it until I got home, So 263 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:59,839 one of them was there in the picture, and I didn't know that until 264 00:25:59,839 --> 00:26:03,519 I found it when I got home. I like video recording things as well, 265 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:08,200 so I video recorded the trip there, and I got some evidence of 266 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:18,880 what they sound like up close and personal, and I just it scared me. 267 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:26,200 And Seth comes back winded because he ran from the gravestone all the way 268 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:30,759 back to the car and he unlocks it, and I waste no time in 269 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,599 getting in that car. I think that's the fastest record time that I've gotten 270 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:41,440 inside my vehicle. And I shut the door, and I immediately locked the 271 00:26:41,519 --> 00:26:47,480 door, and I take more pictures, you know. I take one of 272 00:26:47,519 --> 00:26:52,160 the church. I take one outside my window. I take pretty much every 273 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:56,200 picture you could imagine possible on my phone because I have a good camera since 274 00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:00,920 it's an iPhone. Seth and I we get like he gets in the car. 275 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,440 After that, we talked for about a couple minutes, and then we 276 00:27:06,079 --> 00:27:11,920 turned the lights on and drive down the road and we turn on this bridge. 277 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:18,279 It goes over the creek, which I failed to mention earlier because I 278 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:22,680 was so distracted with trying to give detail that I forgot to have mentioned that 279 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:29,880 on the right across from the church, there's a pavilion. Behind that pavilion, 280 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:37,519 there's the creek. So we go past the church the pavilion, probably 281 00:27:37,599 --> 00:27:44,039 about half a mile down the road. And I wasn't even going to tell 282 00:27:44,079 --> 00:27:48,559 Seth about what I saw because I thought it was just the reflection of the 283 00:27:48,599 --> 00:27:55,039 moon or something. You know, it could have been a cat for all 284 00:27:55,079 --> 00:28:00,880 I knew, because cat's eyes they do glow, but they don't have that 285 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:07,880 color. So we turn and we come back past the church, and I'm 286 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:15,880 recording, and this thing lets out an enormous, otherworldly scream. I don't 287 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:21,920 want to say it's a how because nothing I've heard that is a how has 288 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:27,359 ever sounded like this? This is a cross between something big and angry and 289 00:28:27,599 --> 00:28:36,359 something that needs a breath. Man. So I look out my right side 290 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:42,839 window after I hear this, and what I see in vivid detail, it 291 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:49,440 would be enough to scare a monk or a nun or any anyone who went 292 00:28:49,480 --> 00:29:00,519 to church. This creature had black fur. He I don't know what gender 293 00:29:00,559 --> 00:29:08,119 it was, dog woman, dog man, I don't know. And it's 294 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:14,960 keeping pace with the vehicle. Seth looks over and sees those eyes, the 295 00:29:15,039 --> 00:29:18,720 same ones that I'm telling you about that I saw. He sees them, 296 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:25,359 and he guns it. Keep in mind, this road is curvy and twisted, 297 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:30,640 and it's a thirty five mile an hour per road. We gun it, 298 00:29:30,759 --> 00:29:36,839 we do sixty. And this thing is keeping up with the car, 299 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:44,440 and its eyes are on me the entire time. And if I want to 300 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:51,559 say or guestimate, how far it was from my vehicle, one foot away 301 00:29:51,599 --> 00:29:56,000 from my vehicle. So I'm looking at this thing and I am terrified. 302 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:07,000 But I notice a lot of things things that that blowed my mind. As 303 00:30:07,039 --> 00:30:11,160 I mentioned, the thing's probably about eight feet in length. If it stood 304 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:17,079 up on its hind feet, it probably would have been the same height or 305 00:30:17,319 --> 00:30:22,519 a little bit taller, I don't know. And what struck me as the 306 00:30:22,599 --> 00:30:27,359 most odd thing about this was its tail. This creature had a long, 307 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:34,200 fluffy tail, like a timber wolf, and it was matted. The arm 308 00:30:34,279 --> 00:30:42,079 that I could see it was missing patches of fur, like it had gotten 309 00:30:42,079 --> 00:30:48,599 into a fight or a scuffle, or even had a fight with a tree 310 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,799 branch. I don't know. It's all I know is it was missing fur. 311 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:59,920 And I could see the musculature. The neck was broad, it had 312 00:31:00,039 --> 00:31:07,279 ahead of a canine. Its teeth they were they were long, if I 313 00:31:07,319 --> 00:31:18,359 had to guess, probably about six inches, the incisors, and the way 314 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,240 that it looked at me, and the way that it screamed, It's like 315 00:31:22,319 --> 00:31:26,480 I could see everything. I could see the mouth, I could see the 316 00:31:26,559 --> 00:31:33,279 lining of the lips, the way its head was, and it had pointed 317 00:31:33,319 --> 00:31:40,039 ears, a big fluffy mass of fur on the back of the nape of 318 00:31:40,039 --> 00:31:45,920 its neck down to the front of its chest. Its shoulders were wide. 319 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:52,640 If you've ever seen a bodybuilder like Arnold Schwarzenegger when he was younger and first 320 00:31:52,720 --> 00:32:00,000 starting, that would be either what he looked like or something this creature. 321 00:32:00,319 --> 00:32:07,880 It must have taken steroids. I could have a little humor there. But 322 00:32:09,319 --> 00:32:19,680 what I distinctively remember is the chest area. It was ripped and the arms 323 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:25,759 were long elongated, far longer than anything I've seen, and it kind of 324 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,799 hunched over in a way, if you want to say that. The way 325 00:32:30,839 --> 00:32:39,720 the back curved and the way their hips met, it was like a bipedal 326 00:32:39,839 --> 00:32:47,960 dog. You know, my brain functioned, and this is a dog has 327 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:59,000 to be But why so big? And Seth and I we don't speak. 328 00:33:00,319 --> 00:33:04,440 We just keep our eyes on the road. And when we finally get to 329 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:12,119 the end across the bridge at the edge of Grassy Creek, that's when this 330 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:20,240 creature turned itself around and ran back in the way that it came. And 331 00:33:20,519 --> 00:33:23,759 Seth and I we didn't talk the entire road trip back home. We just 332 00:33:23,799 --> 00:33:30,960 turned on the music and vibed. But I looked at him and I'm like, 333 00:33:31,039 --> 00:33:37,480 Seth, what was that? He's like, I don't know. I've 334 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,440 seen it a couple of times before myself, because I grew up in Webster. 335 00:33:42,279 --> 00:33:49,519 And I'm like, and you didn't think to tell me that, hey, 336 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:55,039 you might see something. Never did, never told me a thing. 337 00:33:55,200 --> 00:34:01,279 Instead, I was the one that got terrorized. Seth was the one that 338 00:34:01,359 --> 00:34:06,880 was driving. He wasn't scared of it, but he also knew that whatever 339 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:13,639 these things were could keep up with the car. And the only living animal 340 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,119 I know that's able to go sixty miles per hour is a cheetah. And 341 00:34:17,519 --> 00:34:27,639 I don't think what I saw was a cheetah. So we drive another way 342 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:34,159 instead of the way we came. We go up through Birch River Road and 343 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,719 we come through Webster. Seth shows me around, and then we drive home. 344 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:46,280 I got home probably around midnight, eleven thirty something to twelve, and 345 00:34:46,519 --> 00:34:51,519 I walk in and I tell my wife. I'm like, you're never gonna 346 00:34:51,519 --> 00:34:54,239 believe what I just saw. And she was like, what, what'd you 347 00:34:54,280 --> 00:35:00,440 see? And I told her and at first she was like what. So 348 00:35:00,599 --> 00:35:04,000 she had to take her earphones out of her ears, And I'm like, 349 00:35:04,159 --> 00:35:09,800 I saw something that scared the living daylights out of me, and I don't 350 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:15,480 know what to think about it. And I was going through my pictures and 351 00:35:15,599 --> 00:35:21,159 my videos, and I saw exactly what was looking at me, minus the 352 00:35:21,199 --> 00:35:27,639 glowy eyes or the yellow orange eyes. I saw exactly what was in that 353 00:35:27,679 --> 00:35:37,559 photograph and I it scared me so bad that that night I had such a 354 00:35:37,679 --> 00:35:44,199 vivid dream or a nightmare, I want to say that it reached its hand 355 00:35:44,599 --> 00:35:49,039 through my car window after breaking it grabbed me by the throat and yanked me 356 00:35:49,079 --> 00:35:55,639 out of the car and just proceeded to eat me. And I woke up 357 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:01,199 and I screamed, bloody murder. Woke my wife up, and she has 358 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:07,119 insomnia. She can't sleep, and she was like, honey, I love 359 00:36:07,159 --> 00:36:14,360 you, but you have to reach out to somebody. And I was looking 360 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:21,559 through my videos and everything else, and I looked at the picture again and 361 00:36:21,639 --> 00:36:27,400 I'm like, nah, this it can't be but I saw it. So 362 00:36:28,559 --> 00:36:34,960 my wife told me that when I was in the living room earlier today and 363 00:36:35,079 --> 00:36:39,280 for the last week, that I have this one hundred yard stare. I 364 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:45,559 stare off, I don't talk, and I crossed my arms and I just 365 00:36:45,599 --> 00:36:50,159 start rocking back and forth like a crazy person. And I'm not crazy. 366 00:36:52,079 --> 00:36:58,159 So she has to snap me out of it by shaking my arm or my 367 00:36:58,199 --> 00:37:05,960 shoulder. And when I had the chance to finally reach out to you and 368 00:37:06,079 --> 00:37:08,840 realize that, yeah, if it wanted to kill me, it would have. 369 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:15,960 Instead, it was just bullying me around like a playground bully. And 370 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:20,079 I've had more than my fair share of bullies in high school, trust me, 371 00:37:20,159 --> 00:37:23,440 but they never scared me like that. That encounter sure has put you 372 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:27,280 through a dustin. No one should have to go through anything like that. 373 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,079 You did do a lot better this time around. Though. It must be 374 00:37:30,119 --> 00:37:35,800 getting easier for you to talk about it. That's great. It's easier to 375 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,119 talk about when you know you have a support system and people that actually see 376 00:37:39,199 --> 00:37:44,320 these things, and knowing that you're not crazy. As you know you're not 377 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,599 crazy, and that's right. You do have a support system. It's not 378 00:37:46,639 --> 00:37:52,280 going to go anywhere either, So please remember that. Oh, of course, 379 00:37:52,039 --> 00:37:55,159 how far were you two from the car when you first noticed that dog 380 00:37:55,239 --> 00:38:07,800 man? Oh? I don't really remember the exact feet, but I want 381 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:13,159 to say fifty yards, like half of a football field away from me. 382 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,199 That was the first time that I saw the eyes. The second time that 383 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:22,159 I saw the eyes, I was at the car and I was probably about 384 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:30,760 three four yards maybe five away, So it wasn't exactly on top of you 385 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,320 when you first saw it, but it was still way too close for comfort. 386 00:38:35,119 --> 00:38:39,119 Too close for comfort. Yeah, sounds like it if you had to 387 00:38:39,199 --> 00:38:43,559 guess how many minutes had elapsed from the time that you two got out of 388 00:38:43,559 --> 00:38:50,280 the car until the time when you saw it. The first time that I 389 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,519 saw it, we got there at nine thirty, as I mentioned, and 390 00:38:53,639 --> 00:39:00,559 then about ten minutes past that's the first time I saw all the eyes, 391 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:07,599 and then when Seth was done, probably around ten o'clock it was I'm gonna 392 00:39:07,679 --> 00:39:15,840 assume because I don't exactly remember the effective time, but I want to say 393 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:21,000 it was ten after five when I saw the second set I or solve those 394 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,960 eyes at the second time I see, so not too much time had passed. 395 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:30,519 But it's not like it made its present snown right away. It sounds 396 00:39:30,559 --> 00:39:32,159 to me like Seth might have been closer to the dog, mean than you 397 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:38,000 were. Is that accurate. It's possible, yes, So he was probably 398 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:42,960 closer and didn't even know it was there. That's not good. No, 399 00:39:43,519 --> 00:39:46,159 he didn't know it was there. I didn't see it until it chased the 400 00:39:46,199 --> 00:39:51,880 car. That's what scared me, because knowing that something that I'm seeing, 401 00:39:51,920 --> 00:40:00,920 that that is a folklore, and seeing this thing, it just my brain 402 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:07,719 could not compute. Ye'll bet your brain was an overload. It was. 403 00:40:07,079 --> 00:40:14,840 I felt every emotion I could possibly feel. During the time that we were 404 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:20,400 gunning it. My heart was racing like I had ran a marathon. I 405 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:24,079 was scared. The hair on the back of my neck was raised, the 406 00:40:24,159 --> 00:40:30,280 hair on my arm even I had goose bumps. And what I kept thinking 407 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:36,320 about during this is Seth, we gotta go. You gotta outrun it. 408 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,480 It's gonna get me. It's gonna reach through the car. It's gonna kill 409 00:40:38,559 --> 00:40:44,719 us, it's gonna wreck us. It's gonna do whatever it wants. That's 410 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:51,199 what I kept thinking. And by the time that Seth and I got into 411 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:57,440 Webster from Grassy Creek, I went into that bathroom and I threw up about 412 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,960 three times. I kept acking myself on the cheek. I was like, 413 00:41:01,039 --> 00:41:07,239 man, you trip in. There's no way. No, there's no there's 414 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:13,760 no way. And I wiped my mouth. After I got all of the 415 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:20,679 gomart restroom and I got myself to drink, and I texted my wife probably 416 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:25,239 ten fifteen, ten twenty and told her. I was like, Babe, 417 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:29,920 I'm on my way home. We're not going to go back to Grassy Creek 418 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:34,719 tonight because they wanted to go, you know, to get out of the 419 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,599 house. My roommate and my wife. They wanted to go with Seth and 420 00:41:37,639 --> 00:41:43,239 I, and there was just no room in the vehicle. So we were 421 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,280 going to go back and get them after we cleaned it out and take them 422 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:50,079 up to Grassy Creek. But after what he and I witnessed and saw, 423 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:57,079 there was no way, no way, and Seth and I both agreed that 424 00:41:58,159 --> 00:42:04,360 stay away from there because what could happen the next time we see one of 425 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:08,880 these things. It could be unpredictable, it could get violent, it could 426 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:15,480 attack you, and I just don't want that to happen. And when my 427 00:42:15,559 --> 00:42:22,360 wife saw the picture that I showed her, her blood ran cold. My 428 00:42:22,519 --> 00:42:32,719 roommate stared wide eyed and just didn't speak, and I'm like, do you 429 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:39,679 believe me? Now? So my wife was like, I've put this picture 430 00:42:40,159 --> 00:42:47,000 into photoshop. She's really good at photoshop, mind you, And she put 431 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:52,280 a background behind it that was white and then used some kind of filter to 432 00:42:53,119 --> 00:43:00,800 make it to where it was kind of white ish and rainy, so she 433 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:05,400 could tell that it was not filtered. And she was like, I believe 434 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:12,719 you, because if it was filtered, the image would disappear. And my 435 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:17,440 roommate was like, I've always believed in these things. I just never knew 436 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:24,760 that they were here. So both my wife and my roommate were the sole 437 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:31,159 reason that I contacted you, because I had to do something. I couldn't 438 00:43:31,159 --> 00:43:39,320 sleep, I barely ate, I would shake, I would have panic attacks 439 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:45,599 when I drive. And mind you, Seth gets off of work two thirty 440 00:43:45,679 --> 00:43:52,960 or three thirty every night and they get swamped really bad. So the latest 441 00:43:52,039 --> 00:43:58,400 time is usually four thirty, So I drive out usually around twelve, and 442 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:02,280 I waited either one or two, maybe three hours on him. But every 443 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:07,320 time that I drive the Inner State and I see like reflectors from either a 444 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:14,239 guardrail, someone's car, like red parking lights or anything, it doesn't matter, 445 00:44:14,679 --> 00:44:19,480 and it automatically takes me back to seeing those eyes. And I had 446 00:44:19,519 --> 00:44:23,599 to pull over on the side of the road to contain myself because I would 447 00:44:23,599 --> 00:44:31,159 have wrecked my car. I had to do something, And I'm so, 448 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:37,440 so, so so thankful that I was able to be pointed to you in 449 00:44:37,519 --> 00:44:40,760 order to reach out and tell my story, because if I didn't talk to 450 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:45,400 anybody about this, it would have ate me up. Well, like I 451 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:49,000 told you, I'm so glad you found out about me. If it was 452 00:44:49,039 --> 00:44:51,840 only a foot from the car window. You got too good of a look 453 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,280 at it. With that in mind, were it's serious more on the top 454 00:44:54,360 --> 00:45:02,559 of its head or on the sides? It was basically like your stereotypical wolf 455 00:45:02,559 --> 00:45:07,480 ear. They were on the top of the head, not at the side 456 00:45:07,519 --> 00:45:12,840 I see. Did it seem to be having trouble keeping up with your car 457 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,480 when you're heading down the road at sixty miles an hour? Not at all, 458 00:45:16,119 --> 00:45:22,159 Not at all. It was fast. It was big, and it 459 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:29,360 was very mean looking, and it kept up exactly with my car. I 460 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:35,239 would have to say that the strides alone were I can't even compare them. 461 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,320 I can't run that fast. Well, of course, he and no one 462 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:44,280 can. Would you describe its movements as being more on the smooth side or 463 00:45:44,679 --> 00:45:51,760 jerky? The movements would be like a dog, That's the best way I 464 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:57,079 can describe it, or a cheetah, You know how they run really fast? 465 00:45:58,559 --> 00:46:04,760 This thing, this crew, All I can tell you is that it 466 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:12,519 could go really fast. It was like unlike anything I have never seen before. 467 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,440 Well, I hope it's unlike anything you see in the future. Hope. 468 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:20,880 That was your last dog Man encounter. I sincerely hope and I pray 469 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:27,079 to the man upstairs that I never see this thing again. Ever. Well, 470 00:46:27,119 --> 00:46:30,119 that makes two of us. You've need a lot of references to werewolves 471 00:46:30,159 --> 00:46:34,840 tonight, Dustin, Do you think dogmen are actually were wolves are? Do 472 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:38,159 you think they look the way they do? Twenty four to seven. I 473 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:45,280 know that where wolves are not real, where wolves are basically mythological creatures. 474 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:51,079 What I saw was physical and in the flesh, and I would say, 475 00:46:51,079 --> 00:47:00,360 if without a doubt, that it's very unhappy and very bored, because if 476 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:06,239 it wants to chase me or single me out, to terrorize me to entertain 477 00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:15,360 itself, that's one thing. But after rereading everything and looking at the stories 478 00:47:16,159 --> 00:47:22,079 and listening to your videos, I would have to say that it's like that 479 00:47:22,119 --> 00:47:27,239 all the time, because there's absolutely no way that where wolves exist, because 480 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:36,239 it's not possible unless you're Native American and believe in either Windo Goos or skin 481 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,719 walkers. My mom used to tell me a lot of stories because you know 482 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:45,159 her being Cherokee, So I learned a lot about the whend Togo, and 483 00:47:47,199 --> 00:47:54,719 to be honest with you, I would rather have seen a Whendogo then I 484 00:47:54,719 --> 00:48:04,000 would have what I saw and that's putting it lightly. I mean, winda 485 00:48:04,079 --> 00:48:08,440 goes. They're naturally scary, but I'm not afraid of them because my mother 486 00:48:08,519 --> 00:48:13,320 used to tell me all about them when I was younger. And it's like 487 00:48:14,079 --> 00:48:23,400 I don't have the characteristics or the niche. I don't fit that that need 488 00:48:24,079 --> 00:48:30,519 to kill or anything else like it does. So I mean I'm not under 489 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:38,960 its radar. And to be actually honest with you, a cemetery, I'm 490 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:45,360 gonna say probably about two three miles maybe four down the road. Actually, 491 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:50,000 there is one of them that hangs around there. And I have seen that 492 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:57,280 fifth myself and I'm just like, wow, that's real. And of course 493 00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:02,159 I questioned myself, but it's not going to hurt me, so I don't 494 00:49:02,199 --> 00:49:08,280 pay it much mind. And other than that, like I said, I 495 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:15,679 would rather see a tall and skinny rib cage bone showing thing than I would 496 00:49:15,679 --> 00:49:19,119 have what I saw. Wow. So not only if you had a dog 497 00:49:19,159 --> 00:49:22,320 me An encounter, you've had a wind Togo encounter as well. Yeah, 498 00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:27,960 I mean I've seen it, but it hasn't came toward me. It just 499 00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:32,199 stopped and looked. I went on about my business. Well, thank goodness, 500 00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:37,840 that's all it did was stop and Look. I produced another podcast called 501 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,840 My Pure Normal Experience. Would you be interested in coming on my pere of 502 00:49:42,079 --> 00:49:45,039 X and chronicling the encounter you had with that wind to Go? Sure? 503 00:49:45,159 --> 00:49:49,280 I don't mind doing that. I'd love to share some of these stories that 504 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,960 I have with you. Oh great, Well, if that's the case, 505 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:55,000 we're going to record that show. And when I do record it, I'm 506 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:59,519 going to post a link here to that show on the description for this show 507 00:49:59,559 --> 00:50:02,639 tonight, so that way people will be able to listen to it. You're 508 00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:06,519 a median. Do you think that has anything to do with you having that 509 00:50:06,639 --> 00:50:13,079 experience? I really don't know. I mean, there's been theories out there 510 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:20,880 after I've done some research that they're portal guardians. Some say that they're just 511 00:50:21,119 --> 00:50:27,440 a missing link between task Wadge, Bigfoot and another lineage. I really don't 512 00:50:27,519 --> 00:50:30,840 know. And to be honest, I didn't even know what a dog man 513 00:50:31,119 --> 00:50:37,320 was until my roommate pointed it out. Well, you definitely know what a 514 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:43,880 dog man is now. Unfortunately, what's been the most frightening thing that's happened 515 00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:47,880 to you with regards to your work as being a medium destined? Well, 516 00:50:50,119 --> 00:50:58,199 there was a situation about last October, and this is when a bunch of 517 00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:04,920 weird things started happening around my apartment. The first day, I walked in 518 00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,719 and I was fine, and my wife asked me. She was like, 519 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:15,480 did you move the tote and open the closet door, because usually we'd keep 520 00:51:15,519 --> 00:51:19,239 it open so the cats can go back and forth because they love being in 521 00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,239 the closet. And I'm like, no, I didn't even turn the light 522 00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:23,480 on, and the light was on, so I thought nothing of it, 523 00:51:23,519 --> 00:51:27,679 turned it off, put the tote back in front of the closet door, 524 00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:36,840 and later that night, the tote was moved by itself. The door was 525 00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:42,239 open and the light was on, and I'm like, wait a minute, 526 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:47,920 didn't I just close that not even three hours ago? Maybe? So I 527 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:54,199 went in there checked it out, and the moment I stepped into that electromagnetic 528 00:51:54,280 --> 00:52:00,360 field, it knocked me on my butt. I was down and I was 529 00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:06,760 out cold. My roommate my wife rushed then, of course, to check 530 00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,679 on me, and they said that I was so cold, it was like 531 00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:17,559 I was dead and I didn't know what happened to me. Never had that 532 00:52:17,639 --> 00:52:25,199 experience before. So they helped me up and we contacted someone by the name 533 00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:31,119 of Chris Delaney. He is also a medium and actually one of my good 534 00:52:31,119 --> 00:52:38,039 friends. Surprisingly, he was trying to help as best he could. And 535 00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:45,440 there is a crystal hippie shop in flat Woods that sells protection rooms, stones, 536 00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:51,519 anything for the wicked faith. So I was like, all right, 537 00:52:52,199 --> 00:52:59,079 I'll do it. So she gave me some selenite. It's a little white 538 00:52:59,079 --> 00:53:05,920 crystal clear and it's pure heavenly light, they say. And I've got Tiger's 539 00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:12,039 eye, I've got a patchy tears and some other rocks with me that serve 540 00:53:12,159 --> 00:53:16,480 as a protection barrier for me, and especially it's in a little sack that's 541 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:22,519 white, and I carry that sack with me everywhere. I also have a 542 00:53:22,599 --> 00:53:28,440 necklace. It's made out of black obsidian. It absorbs negativity and once all 543 00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:35,920 the negativity is absorbed, it breaks. And I've had this since December. 544 00:53:37,079 --> 00:53:40,960 So anyway back to the story. I was laying in bed, and it 545 00:53:42,039 --> 00:53:46,119 was probably around two maybe three, because wife and roommate and I were all 546 00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:51,079 night owls. And I go back in there and lay on my bed, 547 00:53:51,559 --> 00:53:54,239 listen to my tablet, listen to my music, just enjoying myself and trying 548 00:53:54,280 --> 00:54:00,480 to Unlind. The door creeps open again after the toe it's pushed by itself, 549 00:54:01,119 --> 00:54:05,320 and what comes out of that closet, minds you, is nothing but 550 00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:12,320 a big, shadowy figure. Never seen it before in my life. Didn't 551 00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,440 know what it wanted, but it was looming over me, and I screamed, 552 00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:21,679 bloody murder. Man. Aren't supposed to scream, but apparently I did. 553 00:54:22,679 --> 00:54:28,199 So the three of us for about I want to say, a week, 554 00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:32,960 we did everything. We had a buddy system because we weren't taking any 555 00:54:34,039 --> 00:54:39,159 chances, and come to find out, probably three days after that happened, 556 00:54:39,519 --> 00:54:45,559 I got three scratch marks on the back of my shoulder and these were long, 557 00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:51,519 and it got so bad that I had to call a friend of mine 558 00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:57,000 to come in and sage my home to get rid of whatever that was that 559 00:54:57,079 --> 00:55:00,960 was in my closet. It was an angry old man, That's all I 560 00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,960 can tell you. CJ and Mendy were the ones that took care of my 561 00:55:05,039 --> 00:55:08,840 problem, and for a while I could. I didn't trust that closet. 562 00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:14,039 I'd keep looking at it, wondering if the door was gonna come open or 563 00:55:14,079 --> 00:55:16,400 the light was going to come on, and it didn't. It didn't happen, 564 00:55:17,119 --> 00:55:22,280 thankfully. About a month or so after that, I was able to 565 00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:30,039 finally close my eyes without worry. And then about six months after that, 566 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:36,519 I want to say, Seth and I are down below the apartment. Because 567 00:55:36,559 --> 00:55:42,159 my apartment's an upstairs unit and the apartment below us was not rented at the 568 00:55:42,199 --> 00:55:45,960 time, nobody lived there, nobody had been there for a year. He 569 00:55:46,079 --> 00:55:54,079 and I started hearing noises and it was like somebody was pounding on the door. 570 00:55:55,159 --> 00:56:00,920 There is a gold little hinge out in front of the door or and 571 00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:04,639 it's called a knocker, of course, so when you bang that, it 572 00:56:05,119 --> 00:56:10,239 echoes throughout the entire complex. We started hearing that. We started hearing people 573 00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:15,159 running back and forth in the apartment. The doors were going nuts. It 574 00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:22,039 was thumping, it was studding. Whatever is in the apartment below me cannot 575 00:56:22,079 --> 00:56:27,760 get up here because I have a ward in place. So as long as 576 00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:35,519 that blood grave, whatever grave dirt bottle is in my room, it can't 577 00:56:35,519 --> 00:56:43,039 touch me. I Chris told me that I am a trans medium, and 578 00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:49,159 when I go into these medium things, I tend to fall over. So 579 00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:55,639 whenever I do have these sessions I want to call them, I have to 580 00:56:55,639 --> 00:57:04,039 sit down and it's insane. But like I said, I can commune with 581 00:57:04,079 --> 00:57:08,639 the dead even before they cross over and after. And many people look at 582 00:57:08,679 --> 00:57:14,199 me like they're skeptical, they don't believe, and I'm like, that's you're 583 00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:17,039 right, but I know what happens to me. Wow, I don't know 584 00:57:17,079 --> 00:57:21,039 you could ever get used to being able to do that. Yeah, that 585 00:57:21,159 --> 00:57:24,119 is so strange. And the experiences you had, I don't blame you for 586 00:57:24,239 --> 00:57:29,719 screaming when that figure came out of the closet. That's horrible. Most of 587 00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:35,119 the experiences I've had have been horrible. Like I said, I've been attacked, 588 00:57:35,199 --> 00:57:40,320 I've been scratched, my stomach's gotten nauseated. It's not something that I 589 00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:45,199 can handle. And after I come to, I'm so weak and exhausted. 590 00:57:45,239 --> 00:57:53,199 I can barely move until I've rested and regain my strength. I guess Yeah, 591 00:57:53,199 --> 00:57:55,360 I don't know you can ever get used to that, like I said, 592 00:57:57,079 --> 00:58:00,559 And speaking of those experiences, do do you being a medium, you've 593 00:58:00,559 --> 00:58:04,559 also dealt with demons before. How would you compare the fright you felt when 594 00:58:04,559 --> 00:58:07,679 you've dealt with them compared to the fright you felt when you had your dog? 595 00:58:07,719 --> 00:58:15,280 Me an encounter. I have experienced demons before. I have had several 596 00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:22,760 encounters with negativity, negative energy. I lived before I moved on a piece 597 00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:27,679 of property that was on top of a I want to say a Civil War 598 00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:32,960 burial ground, and I've seen a lot of things there. I've heard a 599 00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:39,079 lot of things there. And when I was six years old, I distinctively 600 00:58:39,159 --> 00:58:46,119 remember going out when it was I want to say, December, and I 601 00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:52,920 found this gigantic print. Didn't know what it was, but now that I 602 00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:58,920 think about it, it was a large print, like like a dog's back 603 00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:06,239 paul print, So I guess when I was younger, I didn't know what 604 00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:12,159 it was. And there were like two different prints and there were like five 605 00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:19,679 feet apart. There were big strides. So I haven't thought about that since 606 00:59:19,719 --> 00:59:27,000 then until I started reliving and reflecting. But as far as the demons go, 607 00:59:28,719 --> 00:59:31,599 there is a portal in my uncle's house. He will not let anyone 608 00:59:31,719 --> 00:59:36,559 in that home to clean it, to sage it, to get rid of 609 00:59:36,599 --> 00:59:45,079 it. There is a headboard in the back bedroom that has how should I 610 00:59:45,119 --> 00:59:52,519 put this? The design etched in the wood is a devil's head and this 611 00:59:52,719 --> 00:59:58,199 is with the horns jutting out to both sides. You can see the eyes, 612 00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:04,239 you can see the nose and the the mouth with beard, and that 613 01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:09,440 place it gives me the hebgbs. I can't even step foot on that property 614 01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:19,199 without a nosebleed or feeling nauseated or getting attacked. So I had to go 615 01:00:19,239 --> 01:00:22,559 back to my old home I want to say, probably about a year ago. 616 01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:29,159 And I no longer speak with my father because he was abusive, so 617 01:00:29,719 --> 01:00:34,119 I don't want anything to do with him. But at that time I was 618 01:00:34,159 --> 01:00:38,639 still underneath of the Stockholm syndrome, I suppose you could say. And I 619 01:00:38,679 --> 01:00:45,719 went back to the property, went into that home and I got slammed against 620 01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:52,360 the door facing and there was nothing in front of me, but I felt 621 01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:57,280 dread. I couldn't breathe. It was like somebody had their hand wrapped around 622 01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:01,519 my throat, and the more I tried to push it off, the weaker 623 01:01:01,559 --> 01:01:07,960 I got. Now, my mom has been passed away now for about fifteen 624 01:01:07,039 --> 01:01:14,039 years, and I swear that she had something to do with me getting out 625 01:01:14,039 --> 01:01:20,320 of that house. I didn't have the strength to fight it off, and 626 01:01:20,639 --> 01:01:24,000 by the time I got back to my vehicle, I was coughing and sputtering. 627 01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:32,039 So that was pretty scary, and I walked off without my protection rooms 628 01:01:32,079 --> 01:01:37,480 and stones when I went back there, So I just I'm glad on my 629 01:01:37,519 --> 01:01:45,480 life. But as far as the demons go, they don't scare me as 630 01:01:45,559 --> 01:01:49,760 much as they used to, because you know, it's like I believe in 631 01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:57,599 the paranormal. That's fine, but this dog man growing up your entire life 632 01:01:57,639 --> 01:02:02,320 believing that werewolves are fake, they're a myth, they're a legend. Half 633 01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:08,119 man half dogs don't exist, and then finally coming face to face with one. 634 01:02:10,119 --> 01:02:15,199 This situation is far more scarier than any of the demons I've had to 635 01:02:15,239 --> 01:02:21,119 face, including my own. That's hands down the honest truth. Yeah, 636 01:02:21,199 --> 01:02:23,400 sure would be nice if we lived in a world where things that look like 637 01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:28,440 this weren't around, but unfortunately, you know the truth about that. Now. 638 01:02:29,519 --> 01:02:31,119 If you'd like to be able to listen to the show without ads and 639 01:02:31,199 --> 01:02:36,679 have full access to bonus content, that's an option. To find out how, 640 01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:43,480 please go to Dogman Encounters dot com forward slash podcast. You saw it 641 01:02:43,559 --> 01:02:45,840 two hours from where you live. Does the fact it happen that far away 642 01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:52,840 from home bring any comfort? It brings me a lot of comfort because I 643 01:02:53,000 --> 01:03:01,360 don't have to see that thing again. I now know why people at night 644 01:03:01,559 --> 01:03:07,920 on Grassy Creek stay inside, because if they were to see these things, 645 01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:15,639 they would freak out, and lord knows what would happen. But I think 646 01:03:15,679 --> 01:03:22,280 that the people of Grassy Creek no of these things and know to avoid them 647 01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:27,840 by staying inside at night. So I mean, if they know about them, 648 01:03:28,119 --> 01:03:34,079 congratulations, But I certainly didn't know it. Sure is a shame that 649 01:03:34,079 --> 01:03:37,039 those people are living as hostages in their own homes like that. No one 650 01:03:37,039 --> 01:03:40,639 should have to live that way. What's about time for us to get out 651 01:03:40,639 --> 01:03:44,480 of here, Dustin. But before we do, do you have any closing 652 01:03:44,559 --> 01:03:54,360 comments you'd like to share, just if you have had similar situations as mine. 653 01:03:54,480 --> 01:04:01,599 I don't mind that you comment on the video naturally, And I also 654 01:04:01,679 --> 01:04:09,159 want to say thank you to my lovely wife Mary for reaching out and helping 655 01:04:09,199 --> 01:04:13,800 me get in contact with Vic. He's a good dude. Well, thanks 656 01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:15,840 for saying that. I'm just glad to help and so happy to be in 657 01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:19,119 a position where I can do that. So if you ever need more help 658 01:04:19,159 --> 01:04:24,480 down the road, please let me know. I now know that and I 659 01:04:24,519 --> 01:04:29,480 appreciate it. Oh you're welcome. Well, Thanks again so much for coming 660 01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:32,159 on and sharing the details of that experience with us. I really appreciate it. 661 01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:39,239 Thank you, You're welcome. Thanks again so much, Have a great night.