Tonight's guest is Dustin. Dustin, Welcome to the show. Thank you,
Vic Well, thank you for your timing for coming on the show. I
appreciate it. Not a problem. Dustin, Please give us a brief bio
in yourself. I am I stay at home caretaker for my wife. She's
got cerebral palsy and I've been taking care of her now for the last six
years. I'm just an all around good guy. I know it's not exactly
what people expect to hear, but that's all I got. Well, after
speaking with you at length, i'd have to agree that you are a great
guy. How much help has your wife been when it comes to your attempts
to come to terms with your encounter though, Well, luck, let's put
it this way, she has opened her arms as much as her mind.
And were it not for her comforting me the way that I need comforted,
especially after that night, then I would probably still not know what I saw
or know the intent what goes without saying, I'm so glad she brought it
to your attention what you did see that night, because if you didn't know
what it was, then we never would have spoken. And speaking of that,
were you reluctant to reach out to me even though she recommended that you
do. So were you motivated to do that? I was motivated. Oh
good, you loved wolves before you had that encounter. After it happened,
though that change? Well more? Can you tell us about that? Well?
I was awarewolf fanatic, somewhere borderlining obsessed. I never thought they were
real. They they just seemed like something that I could relate to somehow because
they were big, buff and bulky, and that's the same with me.
But I never actually thought I was one or anything. I pretended to be
when I was like six, but who doesn't when they're that age? And
wolves in general, because of my Native American heritage, I love them.
It's my spirit animal. And because of what I saw, it changed everything.
My wife knew that I loved wolves, so she bought me this two
hundred dollars tapestry of a family of wolves with a beautiful background. There was
little branches, puppies, a mom and a dad, an owl. In
the background was a pink sky trees snow is beautiful. I took that down
and I folded it up and I put it in my drawer and I hung
up a flag instead, because these nightmares that I've been having every single night
since this happened has made me not even want to look at a wolf.
And this is just a regular wolf. I can see a dog. That's
fine. I'm okay with a dog. But say, for instance, if
I go to National Geographic or look up some of the things that I used
to look up, such as wolves, it brings me back and it scares
me more than it should. So because of this, I just the wolves
and stuff are taking a back seat for now. No, I understand you
are getting better. So do you think maybe in time you're going to be
able to pull out that tapestry and put it back up. I hope so,
Vic, because that was a Christmas gift and she didn't have to spend
that much on me, but she did. And I mean, I've got
dragons, I've got any kind of sculpture you could think of, and I
just the werewolves and the wolves in general. It's like nope, walking the
other way. Well, I'm not a betting man, but if I was,
my money would be on the fact that when you're ready, you aren't
going to put that tapestry back up. But all in good time. I
hope you don't rush to do that. No. I can barely get over
this right now, so oh sure, but everything in good time. If
you to be a werewolf fanatic, what do you think is the best werewolf
movie? Hands down? Van helsing second favorite is Cursed, and I think
the third one that I absolutely adore that I actually made a Dungeons and Dragons
character after, is Hybrid and the show is basically without well, I mean,
I'm sure people have seen it, so I'm not really gonna not spoil
anything. It's been out for a while, but there was a wolf on
the reservation that was ran over, so this not a whole lady took it
to a genetic lab so she could, you know, study it, figure
out, you know, the musculature and all that. Well, they got
a grant. So one of these individuals was in an accident and he lost
his eyesight. So the doctors basically took the eyes and put them in the
man. And because of this, the man inherited traits of the wolf.
So while he looked human, he had gold eyes. And it just it's
a wonderful, wonderful story, wonderful movie that does sound like a good movie.
I've never seen it, so yeah, I'm gonna have to check that
out. I am kind of disappointed, though, Dustin, you didn't mention
Bad Moon that too. Guttle of Bad Moon and Ginger Snaps. Yeah,
those are all good movies. You do have a good taste. You had
a lot of trouble telling me about your encounter the first time we spoke.
How are you feeling about it now? It's still fresh, so I'm pretty
sure I'm gonna get nervous again, but I will do my best to push
through it because the seven magical words you told me, but it didn't want
to hurt me. Well, it's only natural You're going to get nervous thinking
about it. We're in the early stages. I mean, you have the
encounter last Tuesday, for goodness sake, So it's gonna take time. But
this is going to get a lot better and a lot easier to deal with,
So I'm happy about that. What kinds of problems have you been dealing
with? Is a direct result of that experience though? Well? The problems
every day that I've been having. I can't sleep anyway for some reason,
I have insomnia or a by product thereof, and I just haven't been able
to sleep, so when I do finally fall asleep, I wake up maybe
in three hours, in cold sweats and screaming. I've woken the roommate up
of woken my wife up, and they both rush in and try to comfort
me. But all I can do is have this one hundred yards stare and
shake back. And even when I'm out on the road, like my best
friend Seth that was with me that night, he works at McDonald's, so
I have to travel by interstate in order to get there, and every time,
no matter if it's just a reflector like say on the back of a
guy that's walking on the road, or a tail light off in the distance,
or even headlights, it brings me back to that night and I get
it in a panic attack. I mean, it doesn't prohibit me from driving,
of course, but I have had to pull over twice and put the
car in park just to let it out. Well, like I told you,
all those effects are pretty normal when it comes to an eyewitness trying to
come to terms with their encounter. We are in the early stages. Like
also said again, that encounter happened last Tuesday, so hasn't even been two
weeks, so you're gonna have to work your way through this. But after
that conversation we had, I think you can do it. It's just going
to take time, and you're gonna have to focus on recalling the seven magic
words and not letting that experience get the better of you, not looking at
that experience in ways that have nothing to do with reality, and we,
like I told you, I'm pretty sure you can do that. If you've
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to my Bigfoot Sighting dot com and let me know. Well, Dustin,
are you ready to tell us about your encounter now? If you'd like to
talk more before you tell us about it, we can do that. There's
no rush, Just say the word. I don't mind explaining my encounter all
r than Dustin. Please tell us about your encounter now, give us every
last detail that comes to mind. I have a best he's my neighbor,
but I met him probably about two years ago, and we clicked. We're
inseparable now and he has been more helpful to me than my flesh and blood
has. So, as you know, I live in West Virginia. I
will not give the county because hard to know what happens when you give county
information out. Let's just say that I lived two hours away from Webster County
and where we were going was Grassy Creek. I've never been to Webster County
except for one time, and that was to see the small little town.
They have one go Mart, some stores that basically aren't active, one gas
station, and it's like you drive through it and you miss it. The
hospital is tiny. It's just a very very poor county. So on the
way, Seth was telling me, I don't think your roommate will be able
to handle this drive. It is two hours and it's full of twisting and
turning roads. I don't have motion sickness. I don't have car sickness,
and even I got sick six times. He and I were driving. We
left about seven seven or eight and we got there. The roads were long,
curvy, a lot of forests. I've been through places on the way
there that the woods are so dense you can't even see through the trees,
and that's saying something. So we keep driving. We're listening to music,
and we get to where we need to go, which is Grassy Creek.
And as far as I'm told, Grassy Creek is a very long, long
road, probably about fifty miles before it dead ends and turns around. There's
a lot of people on a lot of unwanted things up there, and I'll
leave it at that. So we pull into the Grassy Creek Road, the
turn off from the main highway to get to his father's grave. Because it
was the day after Memorial Day. He wanted to put flowers on his father's
grave. Couldn't do it Monday, so his only day off was Tuesday and
Wednesday, so we decided that we'd go Tuesday. We get there about I
want to say nine thirty roughly, and I had this very bad feeling.
But even before that that I should have taken into consideration was the nosebleed that
I had. And I have a white car anyway, so you can kind
of tell where I had the nosebleed because my window was down and I got
sick again because of the curves. So I went to puke and then the
next thing, I know, both of my nose holes gushed. It was
like being like a stuck pig. It just pulled and gushed. So it
took me, I want to say, five minutes guesstimate to get it under
control before we moved on. And this road's got a lot of curves too,
but it's not as bad as the main road. So the road itself,
it had a picket fence, not white, but kind of like a
barbed wire fence that you used to keep livestock in. And that was on
the way there, and it was a thirty five mile per hour road.
And I don't remember exactly how wide the road was, but I do know
that it was. It had two lines. So we get there at about
nine thirty. It's dark. Last thing I remember seeing was a white trailer.
It looked like a double wide if you want to call it. One
across the road from where the car was originally parked and to the left on
Seth's driver's side, because it did let him drive my car because he knew
where everything was and I didn't. I didn't want to get us lost.
There was a bunch of mailboxes straight ahead of us was a gravel parking lot,
and it's a straight walk up a tiny little hill to get to the
church. This church is probably about three hundred feet by three hundred feet.
It's a big church, but it's small at the same time. It's longer
than it is wide, I guess, and there were lots of windows in
it, lots of little candles with curtains seth and I start walking up beside
of the church because I couldn't follow him down over a hill the grass was
up. I'm terrified of snakes. I didn't want bit. I was wearing
my shorts and my shoes, so I didn't really have any protection anyway.
So we decided we'd go up alongside of the church and try to not step
on graves. We walked probably about fifteen twenty more feet from where the last
gravestone that I saw was, and he continued to walk on down the hill
because his father, his grave is tucked into a corner that is fenced off.
So he walks down and there's this white little shed with a maroon colored
roof, and beside of that is a white trailer that's stretched out long ways.
I didn't get much detail on the trailer, but I knew it was
a trailer, because what else could it be. And he walks up to
his father's grave, and we both have our phones, of course, because
neither one of us has a flashlight. And keep in mind that the only
light source that I did have was the telephone pole with the light on it.
A pole and a light about twenty feet to my right. It's down
the hill a little bit, but you can still see. And there was
fog, eerie kind of fog because he did brain that day. And Seth
is at his father's grave. He bought these two little flags from Walmart,
which I thought are cool. He also bought flowers. He couldn't find any
of Walmart. They were sold out, so he went to the dollar store
and he picked something up and it was a little pretty vase. The vase
itself was white with black speckles, and it was kind of oddly shaped,
but it worked. It was a vase. So he's down there fixing his
father's grave up, and I'm standing up there on the hill. So I'm
looking around and there's different kind of mausoleums or tombstones. I want to say.
There was a round, arched one there was a soldier one that I
do remember, and then there was something. And they take real good care
of the graves there because there's lighting around the graves. That way, if
you come out at night and you want to visit the cemetery for your loved
one, you can see what you're doing. And down below catock cornered or
off too. If you're staring front ways with your back turned to the trailer,
there's a brown house that's cadock cornered and it had white shutters. Behind
that was an old cream and Cream in maroon or red truck with a hatchback
on the back. I guess that's what it's called. I don't want to
say a camper because that's too big. It's just one of those things you
put over the back of a truck. When you pull the tailgate down and
open up the glass, you have access and it keeps everything from getting wet.
And beside of that was an old van that was missing a tire.
Acrost. From that brown house was a two story white house, beautiful house.
They took real good care of it, and it was a farmhouse.
And then off to the side of that house was a camper. This camper
in particular. I remember it like like it was yesterday, because it wasn't
an RV, but it was like a truck with a camper on the back
of it that comes out, I guess, and the camper itself the truck
was I want to say, black, and the rest of it was kind
of like a cream or a tan and black. So, being a medium,
you know, I was looking around the cemetery to see where everything was,
to try and figure out if I could see anything or hear anything.
And after about two minutes of looking around, I heard a soft echoy voice,
look up and ahead. So my first instinct is to look and check
on Seth. And he's not even paying attention to me, because he's taken
the used flowers out and putting the ones that he bought down in the vase
and rearranging his father's headstone. And I turned my head back into the direction
of that camper, and what I saw were two orangish yellow eyes. They
weren't glowing, but as I said when you spoke to me first, the
moon was at quarter stage of the lunar monthly cycle, so it gave some
light, but it didn't give a lot of light. But it gave me
just enough to where I could make out two eyes, and they weren't a
dear eye, a deer's eyes face, you know, kind of like a
horse's. But this I knew was a predator because the way its eyes faced.
So I'm like, what in the world is this? And I took
a step to the right, and it did the same, took a step
back to the left where I originally stood. Those eyes followed me and they
blinked like like I would. So around this time, I'm gonna say it
was about nine forty twenty minutes away from being ten o'clock at night, and
these people I didn't want to wake them up and be like, seth,
we gotta go. So I waited for about ten minutes for him to finish,
and he walks up the hill and I'm like you good. He was
like yeah, So we go back the way we came and we reached the
car, and he being a silly butt, that he has left the keys
to the car beside of his father's graves, so that meant he had to
go all the way back just to get them, and I tore my meniscus
so I really couldn't walk up that hill again without pain. So he said,
stay by the car, I'll go get the keys. I'm like,
all right. Seth takes a short cut route up to the left side of
this church, and it was faster to get to his father that way,
so he pretty much jogged the whole way there with his phone. And I
had my phone. So when I turned my head back to the way that
Seth and I had just came from, those eyes were there again, and
they were blinking at me. They were moving like this thing was canting its
head or turning its head to a certain degree and it was blinking at me.
And I'm like, holy crap. So I took pictures, these pictures.
You know, I didn't notice anything. I didn't even look at him
until I got home because I'm like, well, you know, my wife
would want to see where I'm at. You know, she loves country,
loves she loves the woods, she loves nature. So I'm gonna take pictures.
And then that is when I felt the dread. The dread that I
felt was undescribable. And keep in mind that everything was dead quiet, no
sounds from the wildlife and the forest. Nothing. Usually there's tree frogs,
there's crickets, there's anything you could think of, even a hoot owl sometimes
that make noises in the woods. And everything was dead silent. Combined the
fog with the rotten flesh that I smelled, that made me sick to my
stomach, and I was freaking out. My right hand was behind me,
my left was holding my phone snapping pictures. And here's the kicker. I
took a picture of the white trailer that's across the road from where our car
is parked, and I didn't look at it until I got home, So
one of them was there in the picture, and I didn't know that until
I found it when I got home. I like video recording things as well,
so I video recorded the trip there, and I got some evidence of
what they sound like up close and personal, and I just it scared me.
And Seth comes back winded because he ran from the gravestone all the way
back to the car and he unlocks it, and I waste no time in
getting in that car. I think that's the fastest record time that I've gotten
inside my vehicle. And I shut the door, and I immediately locked the
door, and I take more pictures, you know. I take one of
the church. I take one outside my window. I take pretty much every
picture you could imagine possible on my phone because I have a good camera since
it's an iPhone. Seth and I we get like he gets in the car.
After that, we talked for about a couple minutes, and then we
turned the lights on and drive down the road and we turn on this bridge.
It goes over the creek, which I failed to mention earlier because I
was so distracted with trying to give detail that I forgot to have mentioned that
on the right across from the church, there's a pavilion. Behind that pavilion,
there's the creek. So we go past the church the pavilion, probably
about half a mile down the road. And I wasn't even going to tell
Seth about what I saw because I thought it was just the reflection of the
moon or something. You know, it could have been a cat for all
I knew, because cat's eyes they do glow, but they don't have that
color. So we turn and we come back past the church, and I'm
recording, and this thing lets out an enormous, otherworldly scream. I don't
want to say it's a how because nothing I've heard that is a how has
ever sounded like this? This is a cross between something big and angry and
something that needs a breath. Man. So I look out my right side
window after I hear this, and what I see in vivid detail, it
would be enough to scare a monk or a nun or any anyone who went
to church. This creature had black fur. He I don't know what gender
it was, dog woman, dog man, I don't know. And it's
keeping pace with the vehicle. Seth looks over and sees those eyes, the
same ones that I'm telling you about that I saw. He sees them,
and he guns it. Keep in mind, this road is curvy and twisted,
and it's a thirty five mile an hour per road. We gun it,
we do sixty. And this thing is keeping up with the car,
and its eyes are on me the entire time. And if I want to
say or guestimate, how far it was from my vehicle, one foot away
from my vehicle. So I'm looking at this thing and I am terrified.
But I notice a lot of things things that that blowed my mind. As
I mentioned, the thing's probably about eight feet in length. If it stood
up on its hind feet, it probably would have been the same height or
a little bit taller, I don't know. And what struck me as the
most odd thing about this was its tail. This creature had a long,
fluffy tail, like a timber wolf, and it was matted. The arm
that I could see it was missing patches of fur, like it had gotten
into a fight or a scuffle, or even had a fight with a tree
branch. I don't know. It's all I know is it was missing fur.
And I could see the musculature. The neck was broad, it had
ahead of a canine. Its teeth they were they were long, if I
had to guess, probably about six inches, the incisors, and the way
that it looked at me, and the way that it screamed, It's like
I could see everything. I could see the mouth, I could see the
lining of the lips, the way its head was, and it had pointed
ears, a big fluffy mass of fur on the back of the nape of
its neck down to the front of its chest. Its shoulders were wide.
If you've ever seen a bodybuilder like Arnold Schwarzenegger when he was younger and first
starting, that would be either what he looked like or something this creature.
It must have taken steroids. I could have a little humor there. But
what I distinctively remember is the chest area. It was ripped and the arms
were long elongated, far longer than anything I've seen, and it kind of
hunched over in a way, if you want to say that. The way
the back curved and the way their hips met, it was like a bipedal
dog. You know, my brain functioned, and this is a dog has
to be But why so big? And Seth and I we don't speak.
We just keep our eyes on the road. And when we finally get to
the end across the bridge at the edge of Grassy Creek, that's when this
creature turned itself around and ran back in the way that it came. And
Seth and I we didn't talk the entire road trip back home. We just
turned on the music and vibed. But I looked at him and I'm like,
Seth, what was that? He's like, I don't know. I've
seen it a couple of times before myself, because I grew up in Webster.
And I'm like, and you didn't think to tell me that, hey,
you might see something. Never did, never told me a thing.
Instead, I was the one that got terrorized. Seth was the one that
was driving. He wasn't scared of it, but he also knew that whatever
these things were could keep up with the car. And the only living animal
I know that's able to go sixty miles per hour is a cheetah. And
I don't think what I saw was a cheetah. So we drive another way
instead of the way we came. We go up through Birch River Road and
we come through Webster. Seth shows me around, and then we drive home.
I got home probably around midnight, eleven thirty something to twelve, and
I walk in and I tell my wife. I'm like, you're never gonna
believe what I just saw. And she was like, what, what'd you
see? And I told her and at first she was like what. So
she had to take her earphones out of her ears, And I'm like,
I saw something that scared the living daylights out of me, and I don't
know what to think about it. And I was going through my pictures and
my videos, and I saw exactly what was looking at me, minus the
glowy eyes or the yellow orange eyes. I saw exactly what was in that
photograph and I it scared me so bad that that night I had such a
vivid dream or a nightmare, I want to say that it reached its hand
through my car window after breaking it grabbed me by the throat and yanked me
out of the car and just proceeded to eat me. And I woke up
and I screamed, bloody murder. Woke my wife up, and she has
insomnia. She can't sleep, and she was like, honey, I love
you, but you have to reach out to somebody. And I was looking
through my videos and everything else, and I looked at the picture again and
I'm like, nah, this it can't be but I saw it. So
my wife told me that when I was in the living room earlier today and
for the last week, that I have this one hundred yard stare. I
stare off, I don't talk, and I crossed my arms and I just
start rocking back and forth like a crazy person. And I'm not crazy.
So she has to snap me out of it by shaking my arm or my
shoulder. And when I had the chance to finally reach out to you and
realize that, yeah, if it wanted to kill me, it would have.
Instead, it was just bullying me around like a playground bully. And
I've had more than my fair share of bullies in high school, trust me,
but they never scared me like that. That encounter sure has put you
through a dustin. No one should have to go through anything like that.
You did do a lot better this time around. Though. It must be
getting easier for you to talk about it. That's great. It's easier to
talk about when you know you have a support system and people that actually see
these things, and knowing that you're not crazy. As you know you're not
crazy, and that's right. You do have a support system. It's not
going to go anywhere either, So please remember that. Oh, of course,
how far were you two from the car when you first noticed that dog
man? Oh? I don't really remember the exact feet, but I want
to say fifty yards, like half of a football field away from me.
That was the first time that I saw the eyes. The second time that
I saw the eyes, I was at the car and I was probably about
three four yards maybe five away, So it wasn't exactly on top of you
when you first saw it, but it was still way too close for comfort.
Too close for comfort. Yeah, sounds like it if you had to
guess how many minutes had elapsed from the time that you two got out of
the car until the time when you saw it. The first time that I
saw it, we got there at nine thirty, as I mentioned, and
then about ten minutes past that's the first time I saw all the eyes,
and then when Seth was done, probably around ten o'clock it was I'm gonna
assume because I don't exactly remember the effective time, but I want to say
it was ten after five when I saw the second set I or solve those
eyes at the second time I see, so not too much time had passed.
But it's not like it made its present snown right away. It sounds
to me like Seth might have been closer to the dog, mean than you
were. Is that accurate. It's possible, yes, So he was probably
closer and didn't even know it was there. That's not good. No,
he didn't know it was there. I didn't see it until it chased the
car. That's what scared me, because knowing that something that I'm seeing,
that that is a folklore, and seeing this thing, it just my brain
could not compute. Ye'll bet your brain was an overload. It was.
I felt every emotion I could possibly feel. During the time that we were
gunning it. My heart was racing like I had ran a marathon. I
was scared. The hair on the back of my neck was raised, the
hair on my arm even I had goose bumps. And what I kept thinking
about during this is Seth, we gotta go. You gotta outrun it.
It's gonna get me. It's gonna reach through the car. It's gonna kill
us, it's gonna wreck us. It's gonna do whatever it wants. That's
what I kept thinking. And by the time that Seth and I got into
Webster from Grassy Creek, I went into that bathroom and I threw up about
three times. I kept acking myself on the cheek. I was like,
man, you trip in. There's no way. No, there's no there's
no way. And I wiped my mouth. After I got all of the
gomart restroom and I got myself to drink, and I texted my wife probably
ten fifteen, ten twenty and told her. I was like, Babe,
I'm on my way home. We're not going to go back to Grassy Creek
tonight because they wanted to go, you know, to get out of the
house. My roommate and my wife. They wanted to go with Seth and
I, and there was just no room in the vehicle. So we were
going to go back and get them after we cleaned it out and take them
up to Grassy Creek. But after what he and I witnessed and saw,
there was no way, no way, and Seth and I both agreed that
stay away from there because what could happen the next time we see one of
these things. It could be unpredictable, it could get violent, it could
attack you, and I just don't want that to happen. And when my
wife saw the picture that I showed her, her blood ran cold. My
roommate stared wide eyed and just didn't speak, and I'm like, do you
believe me? Now? So my wife was like, I've put this picture
into photoshop. She's really good at photoshop, mind you, And she put
a background behind it that was white and then used some kind of filter to
make it to where it was kind of white ish and rainy, so she
could tell that it was not filtered. And she was like, I believe
you, because if it was filtered, the image would disappear. And my
roommate was like, I've always believed in these things. I just never knew
that they were here. So both my wife and my roommate were the sole
reason that I contacted you, because I had to do something. I couldn't
sleep, I barely ate, I would shake, I would have panic attacks
when I drive. And mind you, Seth gets off of work two thirty
or three thirty every night and they get swamped really bad. So the latest
time is usually four thirty, So I drive out usually around twelve, and
I waited either one or two, maybe three hours on him. But every
time that I drive the Inner State and I see like reflectors from either a
guardrail, someone's car, like red parking lights or anything, it doesn't matter,
and it automatically takes me back to seeing those eyes. And I had
to pull over on the side of the road to contain myself because I would
have wrecked my car. I had to do something, And I'm so,
so, so so thankful that I was able to be pointed to you in
order to reach out and tell my story, because if I didn't talk to
anybody about this, it would have ate me up. Well, like I
told you, I'm so glad you found out about me. If it was
only a foot from the car window. You got too good of a look
at it. With that in mind, were it's serious more on the top
of its head or on the sides? It was basically like your stereotypical wolf
ear. They were on the top of the head, not at the side
I see. Did it seem to be having trouble keeping up with your car
when you're heading down the road at sixty miles an hour? Not at all,
Not at all. It was fast. It was big, and it
was very mean looking, and it kept up exactly with my car. I
would have to say that the strides alone were I can't even compare them.
I can't run that fast. Well, of course, he and no one
can. Would you describe its movements as being more on the smooth side or
jerky? The movements would be like a dog, That's the best way I
can describe it, or a cheetah, You know how they run really fast?
This thing, this crew, All I can tell you is that it
could go really fast. It was like unlike anything I have never seen before.
Well, I hope it's unlike anything you see in the future. Hope.
That was your last dog Man encounter. I sincerely hope and I pray
to the man upstairs that I never see this thing again. Ever. Well,
that makes two of us. You've need a lot of references to werewolves
tonight, Dustin, Do you think dogmen are actually were wolves are? Do
you think they look the way they do? Twenty four to seven. I
know that where wolves are not real, where wolves are basically mythological creatures.
What I saw was physical and in the flesh, and I would say,
if without a doubt, that it's very unhappy and very bored, because if
it wants to chase me or single me out, to terrorize me to entertain
itself, that's one thing. But after rereading everything and looking at the stories
and listening to your videos, I would have to say that it's like that
all the time, because there's absolutely no way that where wolves exist, because
it's not possible unless you're Native American and believe in either Windo Goos or skin
walkers. My mom used to tell me a lot of stories because you know
her being Cherokee, So I learned a lot about the whend Togo, and
to be honest with you, I would rather have seen a Whendogo then I
would have what I saw and that's putting it lightly. I mean, winda
goes. They're naturally scary, but I'm not afraid of them because my mother
used to tell me all about them when I was younger. And it's like
I don't have the characteristics or the niche. I don't fit that that need
to kill or anything else like it does. So I mean I'm not under
its radar. And to be actually honest with you, a cemetery, I'm
gonna say probably about two three miles maybe four down the road. Actually,
there is one of them that hangs around there. And I have seen that
fifth myself and I'm just like, wow, that's real. And of course
I questioned myself, but it's not going to hurt me, so I don't
pay it much mind. And other than that, like I said, I
would rather see a tall and skinny rib cage bone showing thing than I would
have what I saw. Wow. So not only if you had a dog
me An encounter, you've had a wind Togo encounter as well. Yeah,
I mean I've seen it, but it hasn't came toward me. It just
stopped and looked. I went on about my business. Well, thank goodness,
that's all it did was stop and Look. I produced another podcast called
My Pure Normal Experience. Would you be interested in coming on my pere of
X and chronicling the encounter you had with that wind to Go? Sure?
I don't mind doing that. I'd love to share some of these stories that
I have with you. Oh great, Well, if that's the case,
we're going to record that show. And when I do record it, I'm
going to post a link here to that show on the description for this show
tonight, so that way people will be able to listen to it. You're
a median. Do you think that has anything to do with you having that
experience? I really don't know. I mean, there's been theories out there
after I've done some research that they're portal guardians. Some say that they're just
a missing link between task Wadge, Bigfoot and another lineage. I really don't
know. And to be honest, I didn't even know what a dog man
was until my roommate pointed it out. Well, you definitely know what a
dog man is now. Unfortunately, what's been the most frightening thing that's happened
to you with regards to your work as being a medium destined? Well,
there was a situation about last October, and this is when a bunch of
weird things started happening around my apartment. The first day, I walked in
and I was fine, and my wife asked me. She was like,
did you move the tote and open the closet door, because usually we'd keep
it open so the cats can go back and forth because they love being in
the closet. And I'm like, no, I didn't even turn the light
on, and the light was on, so I thought nothing of it,
turned it off, put the tote back in front of the closet door,
and later that night, the tote was moved by itself. The door was
open and the light was on, and I'm like, wait a minute,
didn't I just close that not even three hours ago? Maybe? So I
went in there checked it out, and the moment I stepped into that electromagnetic
field, it knocked me on my butt. I was down and I was
out cold. My roommate my wife rushed then, of course, to check
on me, and they said that I was so cold, it was like
I was dead and I didn't know what happened to me. Never had that
experience before. So they helped me up and we contacted someone by the name
of Chris Delaney. He is also a medium and actually one of my good
friends. Surprisingly, he was trying to help as best he could. And
there is a crystal hippie shop in flat Woods that sells protection rooms, stones,
anything for the wicked faith. So I was like, all right,
I'll do it. So she gave me some selenite. It's a little white
crystal clear and it's pure heavenly light, they say. And I've got Tiger's
eye, I've got a patchy tears and some other rocks with me that serve
as a protection barrier for me, and especially it's in a little sack that's
white, and I carry that sack with me everywhere. I also have a
necklace. It's made out of black obsidian. It absorbs negativity and once all
the negativity is absorbed, it breaks. And I've had this since December.
So anyway back to the story. I was laying in bed, and it
was probably around two maybe three, because wife and roommate and I were all
night owls. And I go back in there and lay on my bed,
listen to my tablet, listen to my music, just enjoying myself and trying
to Unlind. The door creeps open again after the toe it's pushed by itself,
and what comes out of that closet, minds you, is nothing but
a big, shadowy figure. Never seen it before in my life. Didn't
know what it wanted, but it was looming over me, and I screamed,
bloody murder. Man. Aren't supposed to scream, but apparently I did.
So the three of us for about I want to say, a week,
we did everything. We had a buddy system because we weren't taking any
chances, and come to find out, probably three days after that happened,
I got three scratch marks on the back of my shoulder and these were long,
and it got so bad that I had to call a friend of mine
to come in and sage my home to get rid of whatever that was that
was in my closet. It was an angry old man, That's all I
can tell you. CJ and Mendy were the ones that took care of my
problem, and for a while I could. I didn't trust that closet.
I'd keep looking at it, wondering if the door was gonna come open or
the light was going to come on, and it didn't. It didn't happen,
thankfully. About a month or so after that, I was able to
finally close my eyes without worry. And then about six months after that,
I want to say, Seth and I are down below the apartment. Because
my apartment's an upstairs unit and the apartment below us was not rented at the
time, nobody lived there, nobody had been there for a year. He
and I started hearing noises and it was like somebody was pounding on the door.
There is a gold little hinge out in front of the door or and
it's called a knocker, of course, so when you bang that, it
echoes throughout the entire complex. We started hearing that. We started hearing people
running back and forth in the apartment. The doors were going nuts. It
was thumping, it was studding. Whatever is in the apartment below me cannot
get up here because I have a ward in place. So as long as
that blood grave, whatever grave dirt bottle is in my room, it can't
touch me. I Chris told me that I am a trans medium, and
when I go into these medium things, I tend to fall over. So
whenever I do have these sessions I want to call them, I have to
sit down and it's insane. But like I said, I can commune with
the dead even before they cross over and after. And many people look at
me like they're skeptical, they don't believe, and I'm like, that's you're
right, but I know what happens to me. Wow, I don't know
you could ever get used to being able to do that. Yeah, that
is so strange. And the experiences you had, I don't blame you for
screaming when that figure came out of the closet. That's horrible. Most of
the experiences I've had have been horrible. Like I said, I've been attacked,
I've been scratched, my stomach's gotten nauseated. It's not something that I
can handle. And after I come to, I'm so weak and exhausted.
I can barely move until I've rested and regain my strength. I guess Yeah,
I don't know you can ever get used to that, like I said,
And speaking of those experiences, do do you being a medium, you've
also dealt with demons before. How would you compare the fright you felt when
you've dealt with them compared to the fright you felt when you had your dog?
Me an encounter. I have experienced demons before. I have had several
encounters with negativity, negative energy. I lived before I moved on a piece
of property that was on top of a I want to say a Civil War
burial ground, and I've seen a lot of things there. I've heard a
lot of things there. And when I was six years old, I distinctively
remember going out when it was I want to say, December, and I
found this gigantic print. Didn't know what it was, but now that I
think about it, it was a large print, like like a dog's back
paul print, So I guess when I was younger, I didn't know what
it was. And there were like two different prints and there were like five
feet apart. There were big strides. So I haven't thought about that since
then until I started reliving and reflecting. But as far as the demons go,
there is a portal in my uncle's house. He will not let anyone
in that home to clean it, to sage it, to get rid of
it. There is a headboard in the back bedroom that has how should I
put this? The design etched in the wood is a devil's head and this
is with the horns jutting out to both sides. You can see the eyes,
you can see the nose and the the mouth with beard, and that
place it gives me the hebgbs. I can't even step foot on that property
without a nosebleed or feeling nauseated or getting attacked. So I had to go
back to my old home I want to say, probably about a year ago.
And I no longer speak with my father because he was abusive, so
I don't want anything to do with him. But at that time I was
still underneath of the Stockholm syndrome, I suppose you could say. And I
went back to the property, went into that home and I got slammed against
the door facing and there was nothing in front of me, but I felt
dread. I couldn't breathe. It was like somebody had their hand wrapped around
my throat, and the more I tried to push it off, the weaker
I got. Now, my mom has been passed away now for about fifteen
years, and I swear that she had something to do with me getting out
of that house. I didn't have the strength to fight it off, and
by the time I got back to my vehicle, I was coughing and sputtering.
So that was pretty scary, and I walked off without my protection rooms
and stones when I went back there, So I just I'm glad on my
life. But as far as the demons go, they don't scare me as
much as they used to, because you know, it's like I believe in
the paranormal. That's fine, but this dog man growing up your entire life
believing that werewolves are fake, they're a myth, they're a legend. Half
man half dogs don't exist, and then finally coming face to face with one.
This situation is far more scarier than any of the demons I've had to
face, including my own. That's hands down the honest truth. Yeah,
sure would be nice if we lived in a world where things that look like
this weren't around, but unfortunately, you know the truth about that. Now.
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two hours from where you live. Does the fact it happen that far away
from home bring any comfort? It brings me a lot of comfort because I
don't have to see that thing again. I now know why people at night
on Grassy Creek stay inside, because if they were to see these things,
they would freak out, and lord knows what would happen. But I think
that the people of Grassy Creek no of these things and know to avoid them
by staying inside at night. So I mean, if they know about them,
congratulations, But I certainly didn't know it. Sure is a shame that
those people are living as hostages in their own homes like that. No one
should have to live that way. What's about time for us to get out
of here, Dustin. But before we do, do you have any closing
comments you'd like to share, just if you have had similar situations as mine.
I don't mind that you comment on the video naturally, And I also
want to say thank you to my lovely wife Mary for reaching out and helping
me get in contact with Vic. He's a good dude. Well, thanks
for saying that. I'm just glad to help and so happy to be in
a position where I can do that. So if you ever need more help
down the road, please let me know. I now know that and I
appreciate it. Oh you're welcome. Well, Thanks again so much for coming
on and sharing the details of that experience with us. I really appreciate it.
Thank you, You're welcome. Thanks again so much, Have a great night.