And I just turned around and I call ass out of there. I was
done. I wasn't deal with them. The hypocrisy of the cult is one
of the things that turned me away the quickest. When I turned my head
lights on, it turned and looked at us. And one of the things
I remember the most, where the eyes were glowing red. I see an
orb of light. It is just circling these steps like it is waiting for
me. And he begins to tell them that he saw UFO. They're basically
like, what are you talking about. That's seven foot up on a tree,
peeking around it, and that's where I saw the top of the muzzle,
noose and the eyes. As soon as I made eye contact with this
thing, I don't like death. Welcome back to tenfoil Tels. I'm your
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I like to take the time to welcome my guest tonight, Christy.
Thanks for coming on here and talking to me. Absolutely thanks for having me
here. I'm excited, not a problem, my pleasure. Would you like
to let the audience know a little bit about yourself? Yeah, absolutely so.
I'm Christie and I'm into you know, paranormal stuff. I believe you
know, UFOs are experiences with Currently, I live out here in San Antonio,
Texas, and I moved from Oklahoma that's where I work people, but
I'm originally from California. Currently I'm running like, uh, like a personal
investigation. I've been doing a lot of like paranormal investigating by myself for a
while now, and I felt like maybe it's time to like, you know,
reach out to the paranormal community and uh see what we can get put
together. You know. So I do third eye paranormal investigations on Facebook and
actually that's how I found you. Through all these poor paranormal pages and like
haunting pages. And I enjoy the stories that people come and up on your
show and talk about. You know, it's a it's a it's a thing.
It's a real thing. And because of personal experiences, you know,
early on in my childhood, even as an adult, like you know,
I just want to seek what's out there. So that's me, that's Christine,
what I'm doing right now, So let me sew the paranormal. So
like growing up, like you know, there's there's a area in California called
Stilmar in California, and I experienced a lot of paranormal to be out there.
My sister looked like in a ranch house. It was a huge ranch
house and it had horse saws and sired house and at night, like you
would hear horses out there, but she did and owning horses at all.
And one night, like you can hear the horse like running back and forth,
and like you could hear like it ran up to the window and just
stopped there and then like you know, just like noise, and we opened
the window. There was in the horse out there. I encountered a gentleman.
Oh and this was in the daytime. She was picking up all of
the off the four silmar was like a big olive oi true back in the
eighteen hundreds, and all of trees still thrive out there, and so do
Situs truth. And this gentleman he was picking up all of us off too
and putting them in the oudther pouch. And he was solid, like he
was solid, and he spoke to me in Spanish and we had like a
little chit constinction. I thank there's nice and look at the solid fall and
I was like, yeah, sure, I was around. I'm gonna say
twilve and I was like, let me help you pick up olives. And
I remember picking up follows and when I turned around, that old man was
but he was solid. I wasn't like transparent or anything. I didn't share
that story with anybody until years years have gone by and I got talked to
my sisters house at my sister's house, and she was all like so and
so she shared the exactly same storyline. So you guys ever talked to teaching
with balks and no, I've never told anybody you so like other people whoever
was in the household to experience this old man. So that's why you know,
now I'm doing all this paranormal stuff on the side just to you know,
help me understand more about paranormal stuff. And there was some stuff.
It's just all that stuff, all the experiences. It's you know, there's
something out there, and there's so much literature out there and there's so much,
so many videos out there. What did he look like like far as
like clothing wise and stuff. Did he looked like a modernized person or no?
Absolutely, Like I'm sorry I didn't describe that I usually do. But
it was like a white like bob with a like a leather belt and he
was wearing changlas, which is up those leather sandals that farmers used towear back
in the day. That's another thing about the story. He was not dressed
nineteen nineties, you know, he was like a legit old looking far more
man. And he was in the area where the horse stalls were, where
we would hear the horse sits, So yeah, he had that. And
when you think about the area and so are and like I mentioned for the
olive vultures, and it's like I felt like it was a reoccurring haunting because
people also see the exact thing so that gentleman out there is reliving that thing
everyone so often when there's a moment in time like you entered your same So
I mentioned because he was solid. He wasn't like them a lot of people
see, you know, transparent people. This person was legit solid, and
I wasn't the one. He spoke Spanish. I said, what is he
speaking? That's weird. I'm sorry, Yes, yeah, he spoke.
Yes, we had a conversation. And the other person that experienced that she
had she also had the same conversation. And what's another thing. She was
also the age I was. She seen him a year after I seen him,
So when I was twelve by seeing him and when she was I don't
know if that's a weird thing, but what was the conversation? Oh,
so my sister she has pick poles. So I went out back, you
know, set the dogs out. There's this gentleman and he's right there by
the horse was by the side door, and there's like two olive trees out
there and they're just full of olives. And there's this gentleman like his legit
looks like in the old times, like in the time farmer with his white
flaw top that's what I remember. His leather belt, h a chap glass.
He had a leather sack. Leather sack, like old looking man.
I would say, like my father, but maybe a little shorter. And
he's like, it's nice house, it is. I said, yeah,
it is real nice. And I was just like looking at him. I
says everything okay, He's like, yes, I'm just bick knowledge. And
that's when I looked down. I realized there was a bunch of dollets on
the floor, and I was like, okay. I figured maybe like my
sister would let the neighbor come in because my my, my mother grows gardens
and she's always grown gardens and the neighbors would come in and get whatever,
like pepper and tomatoes, whatever she had. You know, she didn't care.
So I thought I was maybe like that, like she let the neighbors
come to the gay if they see all of these pick allars. And I
went around turning around to pick all this for him, and I turn around.
He was not there anymore. Yeah, And I remember like I looked
around and I was like, oriole like my sister, I was like,
come on, let's go in the house. And I go in the house
and I close the doors and I didn't I don't know about it because he
was too solid. Like I thought that was super weird that I encountered that,
because you know, like I said, translucent people, you know,
they're not there. M h. And I had a conversation with him,
and not just in English like Spanish. It was a Spanish conversation. Do
you know like the land itself, like is that like an old area,
because I'm wondering if it's something one that was attached to the land itself.
Yes, that's what I think as well. That's why I said, like
it's a it's a talent in California called still Are California back in they ain't
two hundreds on two hundreds. It's like right there, not in the area,
but like maybe ten miles from there was like the first nish in this
acronomal valley. So all that all that area was like orchards like Ciitrous orchards,
and and all of orchards like there were big old ranches. So that's
old old history back there. So that's so my sister, that house was
on a you can tell like it was an old ranch. That's why I
when you think about it, like I mentioned, like back in day lunch,
and it's a recurring I feel like it's a recurring event because someone else
had the same almost the same conversation with this gentleman a year later when the
olives are on the ground, like right, So I feel like it was
a reoccurring event on this ranch. She had the horse singles also at that
property. I mean, I'm totally there with you. Like the Native Americans,
how they used to have them dressed like that, but it was like
more like rancher. I would say, like they don't plan shattle. I
say that. The image I got was like the old late eighteen hundreds,
like ranch hand type person. Yeah, yeah, the older gentleman. And
I'm a short person. I'm five to two, so he was like a
little bit shorter than I was, but he because he was like a little
bit hunched back. He was an older gentleman. Did he have like a
mustache or beard or anything. That's the one thing I don't remember, but
I do remember like he could you know, he looked like a relative of
mine, like that that Mexican man old man style face, just those high
cheek bones and eyes and just the dark skin but just the older gentleman.
Mhmm. Yeah, and that's the and that like you said, historic the
land. Yeah, I believe that he's tied there. That's where he was
a long time ago, but he legit needs to pick up all of us
around that are I believe. I feel like sometimes there's I don't know the
exact terminology to use, but sometimes they say like these spirits or whatever their
trapped doing the same thing, like a record, like it's like a memory
and planet into the world or whatever, like they're constantly doing the same same
thing. But the fact that he talked to you kind of makes me think,
well, it can't be that because it'd just be out there picking.
He wouldn't be able to communicate or what. That's a different element too,
So it is kind of strange, right, That is super strange because that
wasn't the first time I've experienced like, oh, like the paranormal stuff,
but in the solid form like dealing like I thought, or I believe strong
only that it's I had a dream when at a very young age that there
is this weird man following me and uh. In the dream, I'm walking
my nephew home who's like literally just like up the street and the gate was
broken to the apartment complex and there's a big tree right there, and then
I don't I think it's part of mestique. But in my first problem mesquite
like you know, there's that big old tree and that's like a meaning to
like that tree symbol it like needs like protect, be protected, like it's
a strong tree. And that she was there and the gate was broken,
and there's like this man and like blue jeans and a hoodie that's like it's
like a skater guy like right there. And for some reason, I was
all like I wasn't going home. It's like, okay, he went home.
I will tell your mom outside and he's like okay. And this guy
approaches me and I was, for some reason in the gym like how old
are you? He doesn't answer me, and then I just hear a pop
and I look and like I'm like bleeding, like he shot me. And
I was like, wow, this is crazy. Then my brother wakes me
up. My brother wakes me up. He's like waking me up to like
little chit. Adam's like, hey, you know our cousin, like she's
gone, she like killed herself. So I had this crazy freaking nightmare on
a night that my cousin had killed herself. So after that, I kept
having dreams as a hoodie guy, but he was like in the background in
my dreams, like for a few months. And then like one time I
came home from the party and I got dropped off and across the street like
there's a twitty guy that sand may now just like what I remember, like
ringing to my apartment and I was like chicking balls. But like that's another
Like I knew that thing was solid. Like so that was like my second,
uh encounter with a solid paranormal singing, like I knew he was there,
Like he wasn't solid, like he was solid like something. Do you
say this was the same area, No, this wasn't the same in the
same town. So like all the soap Fernano Valley all of that. It's
north of of Hollywood, so Hollywood. Remember it was like all our new
culture back in the day. Like it was all farms. It wasn't Hollywood
great orchards. Uh, the citrus, the olives ranching at the ranchers.
There there's missions out there, no Native Americans like all that went that was
the land before it was Hollywood before it is what it is that was all
Native American, not so that that area where I was living at the time
too had it was like not a good neighborhood in the city, so that
was had crimes going on. That's why I thought like it was probably gang
member stalking me, but it wasn't. It was something uh like that came
from somewhere and follow them like for a whole solid year, and so like
I faced and told it to like leave me alone, and then I would
see it sporadically and then it wasn't until like I was still I was living
in Oklahoma. Was the last time I sign it, which is like ten
years ago, but like that's like thirty years of my life until I finally
told it to like leave me alone, Like what the fuck are you doing?
You just show up in a dream and then you just it was it's
just weird stuff. That was just another that I believe was a solid paranormal
thing. And I had to do it with like my cousin's dead, because
how would I have such that weird, vivid dream when she like killed herself
and we had a good, like solid bond, like me and my cousin
had a good solid bond too, where I thought it was like a sign
or something. But it got real bad that like I went to my mom,
Mom, like I don't know if you're gonna leave me a lot,
but like this is what's happening. So for about a month I wasn't allowed
to leave the house because they thought like death was following me. Mm hm.
So, but like my sister will still tell me to go to her
house to help with beaming certain boys, you know, so I'd be like,
okay. So one night she wakes me up, like at two in
the morning. My nephews are still playing radio games. She's like, hey,
I left the diaper bag out in the car, can you go get
it? And I was like yeah, yeah, yeah. She's like,
hey, take no, you're nephew with you. I said, okay,
okay. So I'm walking outside and I'm walking outside in front of her apartment
building and like I feel like I'm getting like days job at that moment.
Why do I feel And it hits me like I'm here in the dark,
I'm going towards my sister's parking lot with my nephew like in the dream,
like kind of like the dream because the dream I was in the front and
this time I was like an actual park lot in the bat and I had
my nephew in the dream, and the gate was broken. But like it's
not hitting me at that moment, but it's like my brain is processing this
stuff as I like walk towards in his car and I look to my life
and I see that the gate is like broken, and there's that guy,
hooded guy just standing right there, and there's a tree. It's not the
tree in my dream, but there's still a big tree there. So I
was like, what, like this is like weird right now? What is
going on? And the guy starts walking. This is like two in the
morning, Like there's nobody around parking lot lights not that well, I'm leaving
this SNA from now on the valley. I can be like we gave mug
right now. It can be a gang member, it can be like something,
But I know it's not like the immediate moment of knowing like this is
the guy in my dream. This is the guy I've been seeing all around
town. And it happened just like it happened in the dream. I told
my nephew, Hey, I'll say like go upstairs and tired, Mom,
I'm outside in the parking lot, and he my nephew, like he looked
at it, like he's seeing it, and he looked at me and he
ran and said okay. But for some reason, I'm like still walking towards
car. And then he's like walking into the parking lot. Like he's like
walking into the parking lot. He's walking towards the park and I'm like turned
to the left and I stopped walking and like, I don't know why I
said, but I said, I was like, how old? Are you?
Just looking a dream? For some reason, I asked them, all
are you? And there was like silence, and then all of a sudden,
like I hear my sister screaming on the top of her lung. She's
like Christy, get your boy inside right now, but real loud, like
the whole neighborhood heard no doubt about that. And I just remember, like
when I looked to left to look at this guy, like there was nothing
there, and I ran up, like I ran to the park want.
I ran upstairs, and my nephew was there, and my sisters like huffing
and puffing. She's like this, and she's like I'm sorry, Like,
I'm sorry I made you go aside, and I was like, what is
going on right now? She's like Mom told me about you your dreams and
how you feel like you're getting soft. Like I'm sorry. Uh, she's
like whole say seeing it Like he said that there was something nasty out there,
and she was like, was it a bad guy? He's like no,
its like those nasty bad guys that she's seeing in the shadows. Because
my my nephew when who was little, used to see stuff. But yeah,
so I I was like, this is a solid her normal haunting.
He's not. This person was not translucent, Like was it death? Was
it like the weird? I don't know, Like that's still unexplainable. That's
why I'm choosing to do like paranormal investigations and dig deeper and like try to
connect stuff because I do remember like going to Mexico and then like because you
know, uh, obviously I'm Exican and I had a test to Mexico and
my cousin she died out and I remember when I went, you know,
I was like I went, I couldn't go to her grave, but to
like her room. I was like, hey, like you know, sorry,
what happened? Not that? And I remember after doing that, like
I didn't see that thing as much like if I went I would see it.
It's like if like I was doing something really dumb. But that's a
long time ago, and I'm glad it did because it was he was not
my nephew's seeing it. Like people legit, believe me because I don't.
I'm not that type of person to like stay weird shit like that'll, dude,
it's not a human person, like I can tell. It's like from
the spirit world. And I was like, did something happen while I was
asleep and dreaming in the same moment, And like because an author Sophie,
we had was like sole connection, Like was it just something weird like that
that was able for whatever is thing to manifest so solid. You mentioned your
nephew sees things. What type of stuff does he talk about. Well,
he's a grown up now, he's a military he's in the Air Force.
But when he was little he used to see people. I mean, you
know, we see people. He mentioned that he can see his uncle and
he described his uncle and my sister's tell and his uncle passed like way before
my nephew was born, so he shouldn't have any idea of who he'd be
seen. No, No, because because no one talked about him, because
it was so long that he passed. It wasn't like those recent passing people
will usually talk about them, but no, this was a passing that you
know, it was like maybe ten years before my nephew was born. But
like he would describe him growing up, it was just like, oh my
goodness, he's he's describing this person that no one, like I didn't know
who this person was because my my nephew's father never spoke about him. So
that's strange. But kids do seem to have a more of a connection and
openness to the other side or whatever you want to call it. Oh yeah,
absolutely, one hundred percent. It's like their brain is working on like
eighty percent five percent, so like they see things, they hear things they
can cannot absolutely, I mean, so it is it is sad to have
to have grown up seeing this you no, weird paranormal stuff and talking to
your family about it and they believe you because they've experienced it too. You
know, I don't feel like you know bad about it, Like Okay,
this is a legit thing because I remember my mom as a little girl,
like, hey, like this little girl, like she's in the house,
no one sees her, but she tells me to go with her, almost
like you don't go with her, Like you're gonna have imaginary friends. But
if they tell you didn't follow them and go with them or try to trying
to make you do mean things, like you tell me right away, you
tell them to be alone. So I knew at a young age, like
expect to see their stuff and I and it's I believed in my culture,
in any American culture, like it's heavy on the uh spirits and on the
ghost, on the ancestors and and stuff like that. So I'm grateful that
I was in a family that was to open to it. You know,
they make you feel safe and understand and help you understand. Mm hmm.
You said you started doing your own investigations and stuff. What is some of
the things that you've experienced that you've been investigating, well personally investigating, Like
I've gotten a VP readings like voiceless. Oh, I don't know, like
like their productivity, I don't have I haven't I do have a photo and
this was I'm gonna say in twenty seventeen, twenty seventeen, I was doing
ghost honting classes and I was doing ghost hoigting classes. Just one of like
the top ghost hunting ladies in Tulsa. Her name is Terry. I know
her last one like it's in a hidden stand. But she was giving these
ghost hunting glasses. And we were in the part of Tulsa. So it's
called Cherry Street. Cherry Street back in the day was the red light district
for that part of Tulsa. The Tulsa was a booming like the oil capital
of the world at the time in the early nineteen hundreds were like blowing up.
There's millions moving out there. So anyways, back to Cherry Street,
so Cherry shoes, there had brothels that had bars, you know, know
a lot. She still happened in that area. And there's one building and
it's a bookstore. I'm not going to name the bookstore because I don't know
if they want that kind of you know, a bunch of people talking there,
but there's and if you go to Tulsa, you'll you'll figure it out.
And there's a book start talk on the second floor. And we did
our investigations in there. It was such a fun time investigating. Like there
we were being taught how to use EVPs and how music ms and you know,
how to feel with your body and just you know, to pay attention.
And she was great, like her whole team is great. Mhm.
And and so below the bookstores that right now it's a massage parlor, but
it was that building on the first floor was a braw home. There's still
like those massage rooms used to be, like, you know, n So
one evening, I'm in one of the rooms and it's just silence and it's
just dark, and I'm doing the ev T, I'm EVP, I'm a
recorder on and a couple comes in and they snap a picture and I,
you know, I didn't mean to speak them, but they didn't expect to
see someone sitting in the chair because I was sitting in your car. And
then we're like, oh my gosh. I was like, yeah, don't
I step by you guys snap the room and they were still taking pictures.
And then those pictures I have to find on their own mind somewhere. But
there's like the green worm and they had light reflecting on it, and two
separate pictures and that green worm was like following me. And in that same
room, I got a EVD and so it's the voice of the man and
he's mumbling. I can't really make out that you can tell he's a male.
And then there's a lay's voice that comes in and she says, please
be gentle with me. And I was just like, oh my god,
because it used to be a brothel and this voice lands just heard is and
the way she said it like please be with me, like people don't shake
like that nowadays. So that was a cool like e VP that I got
out there in Tolsa. Tulsa is very ham and I love Tulsa. So
back to Santonio. We've been to a couple of places. There's a place
called Aspata Apple Duc we've gotten and I say we because I collaborate with another
ghost here in the Texas rat Hunters and we'll beat up at certain places here,
uh Tantonio that are known as like to have activity and a spot apple
it's a good woman like does have a solid activity. We went on one
night on a full moon and I think that's the EVP where I got or
uh my her name, her name is eating one of the girls on h
third Night her normal stations, She's like, ask me, like where are
you? And like a female voice is not my voice? Another female was
like behind you? Oh my gosh. So right now I am getting like
a good instlid H E T H evidence because then all metric videos that we
take and I can't hear that audio on the video. So do you have
any of those e vps available? You can send them my way and I
can include them in the episodes. Oh. Absolutely. I think that one
that I said like behind you, I have it on YouTube because it's it's
just so solid. It's like this crazy solid whisper like rolls my mind.
Like our buddy Lurker. He's like saying something. He's saying like we had
a million leader like your grandpa Rimp parking with us, and he had a
EMF device, but it was like more like it tells them certain degrees and
he was pulling out the numbers what that gadget was saying. And then that's
when em He's all like where are you? And then like we hear the
female voice saying behind you like like that, and then it's like silence and
then you hear me talk nonsense. But the reason I I put my voice
in the end to let it go is so people can see like it wasn't
my voice, it wasn't Evie, it wasn't a lurker. It's another female
voice that was there. And Amy and I are we're the only two females
at the time or either and when we do our group collabs recently, it's
just Edie and I are on too, females, so there's no way it
was just like a little teenage girls. So I'll send that one to you.
Absolutely have it on too, like I said, And I'm working on
editing a couple other like EVP clips too at the time right now. And
then we went on a hunt in this old, beautiful like holmil looking home
in the middle I don't even know, like it's like an hour south Santon.
I had no idea what were that. I trust my race brothers to
direct me in areas so we can, you know, look for the potential
of paranormal. And I believe that I got some some uh EVPs off of
one of the bedrooms in that home that homeless and it's being remodeled, but
it's uh, you can tell the house was built like an early nineteen hundreds,
it was still in great shape. Yeah, I can't wait till uh
the EPs from now, but there's yeah, and I'll send those sorts to
me to anything that you have, you can email them to me, and
I guessaid I'll make sure to try and include them here in the episode for
anyone listening. Yeah. Yeah, But I mean that's that's why I do
all this paranormal stuff, because it's just a bunch of weird stuff has happened
in my life and in other people's lives. Like people that I'm doing this
with, they've encountered weird paranormal stuff as well. So it's not like I'm
alone with this, like we're all you know, like like how you do
it? It's not a lot of people want to reach out. And I
want to know about the after life, like obviously there's a lot of stuff
going on in their afterlife, Like I want to know how you guys do
it in the afterlife, so once I get during the one too. Yeah,
there's a lot of weird stuff out there that I don't think anyone really
has all the answers, And there's a lot of people doing the same thing
that I do. We're all just looking to find some sort of truth.
Absolutely absolutely, and you know, and it doesn't just stay in the parent
almost section for me, like you know, WEO foes aliens like that's legit.
There's just so there's so much more evidence out there right now, like
there's no age to real other little intelligence there. You know, you mentioned
something about a UFO experience if you want to talk about that. Yeah,
this like this experience. I haven't. It was just until I'm listening like
two years ago. I started sharing because it was just too weird. And
then I started, you know, listening to podcasts and listening to other people's
experiences and it's like, no, uh yeah, that's crazy. Let me
share share experience because obviously there's that conspiracy where uh, it's like connected to
your family, like if your parents started so they're following you your grandparents or
whatever. There's a theory about that kind of stuff, So let's just start
there. So I was I was like seven years old at the time.
I did not like sleeping in my bedroom because there was a creeping room and
I'd rather just sleep And in the little room there's two windows by the door,
and I faced that door when I'm sleeping on a couch and the and
there's a kitchen and they had like huge grain window. So I'm you know,
I'm like falling asleep or I feel like a bomb sleep. And then
like right lights and through the through the two front windows of the house like
super bright, like if someone is pulling up the driveway and has a hiving.
And so I thought, okay, someone's coming, so it was all
bright. And then I noticed that this brightness is also like coming out and
they went out of the kitchen, which is like r I was like,
but in my head like this happened, those right lights shut off and then
all of a sudden, the home tire I say house because I was a
kid, and that's what looked like to me. The whole house was like
lit up. So I'm in the front room, it's all when news.
My mom has like curtains but they're white lace curtains, and it's like right,
and I remember like that bright like it went all the way to the
top of the ceiling of the house, like so there's just white light on
the sting on the house, like white leaser, white light, and it's
all like what other right now? And then it like goes down like like
like it was scanning at white light and went up, going down and then
went back up, and when it went back up and turned with red like
it turned with red. So I was all like okay, and I'm still
like waiting, like is it a car? No, it's not like I
see like you're dumb. It's not carsh No, it's not that. And
then the red lights are there and then it does the thing like it's scanning.
It's coming down and like everyone like it came down close enough to me.
And then next thing I remember, I'm waching up in the morning time.
That's it. As I'm trying to do you feel like when you woke
up, did you feel like something that maybe happened, like an abduction.
Do you feel like that was something that could have happened or I don't know.
I wouldn't what like alien of Dutch. Possibly, I wouldn't suggest doing
like I don't know you need type of I'm very lary when it comes to
hypnotist and asking questions and stuff. I feel like sometimes the certain questions can
make you think things. They not intentionally implement that into your brain, but
some with hips, those questions and trigger things. And someone says, oh,
they're they're bringing out the blog memories. I was like, or they're
putting those memories in their fall stories. So I'm literally when it comes to
stuff like that, like that's the solid crazy, like what the fuck?
Like because so I hadn't. I didn't share it right for me for years,
not until like two or three years ago. But then the older I
get stories were and I would there was like I thought I would be dreaming,
but like it'd be like three three years sometimes like wake up this next
day, but like it came out that Like my dad growing up, he's
kind of weird, like he's seeing a uk in the sky like it was
close to their branch like and it wasn't like out in the sky sky like
it was like in the sky like below them. And this was like when
he was young if he he my father is very religiously doesn't I'm like to
talk about that stuff. But he shared it to like my sister long long,
long, long, long long time ago, like years ago. He's
like, I think she was like reading a book on it. You know
sometimes the schools they let you choose like books owd of like her like it's
or triangle stuff like that, and he's like, but don't tell nobody,
because you know, people think they're craiz But then like all this weird stuff
and because her normal is one thing like spirits are there everywhere. They're everywhere.
You can't ye know that that's that thin. That wall is very very
thin. But like the ami stuff, that's like just more crazier. Like
I feel to share. But once I start sharing it, like they're like,
you know so and so seen it and they're in the family, And
I was like what my brother he started as like, yeah, man,
everyone camping. He was like like he'd s started in this guy and then
I'll stop them was dying and then just exactly the way. And I believe
because you know, out in the middle of nowhere when we go camping,
like the stars are bright, you can see everything. I was like,
have they been so much my dad before our dad? I do believe in
that families they're studying, you just keeps going. I don't know, like
I don't know how things work when it comes to UFOs or spirits or anything
about that, but I don't feel like things travel through space to come here
and study, like just a random person, and I understand the whole concept
of abductions of why they would be here to do that, because look what
we do to animals in our own world, Like we will pick out a
random anily take, investigate, look at a tag it, put it back
in the wild. I can see a high I can see a highly advanced
civilization traveling and doing that because they have interest in our plan and interest in
us. But at the same time, if they're smart enough and advance enough
that they can travel through space, why would they come all the way do
the same things we're doing when they be further advanced to where they didn't have
to rely on us to do stuff like that? Like if they come here
for what people say, they abduct people and they do these experiments on them,
and they're doing these hybrid stuff. Like when you start to go down
a whole woof factor of abductions, I don't know where I stand on it
because some of it just doesn't seem to make sense. But a lot of
stuff in this whole weird realm doesn't make sense to me. But that's why
I do what I do. Well. Yeah, sometimes sometimes when I think,
like what makes us think? Really like like you know all those sci
fi books like Star and Not, and they means like Star Wars and Star
Trek, Like there's so many clients out there, Like what if like we're
like one, you know, one experiment out of the jailing experiments out there,
that all these certain types of UFOs and aliens are coming. They all
each got some weird stuff going on the way we're all. I think it's
mathematically saying two. I don't know the proper verbiage of how to say,
but like, I think it's mathematically sound to say that there should be more
than us just in our own galaxy. And they say there's how many galaxies,
But just in our own galaxy there should be like multiple thousands of civilizations,
advanced civilizations. You would think maybe even more just off the mathematical equations
of planets around a star. How many stars are out there every planet has
or so many stars have so many planets, Like, mathematically you would think
somewhere there'd be intelligent life. But whatever reason, we've never been able to
quote unquote communicate with it that we're aware of. So that's right. I
still believe that there's something out there. What it is, I have no
idea is coming here and taking people possibly. I don't know. I've never
been abducted to my knowledge. I mean, I've had some weird stuff,
but to my knowledge, I don't remember if anything was really happening. So
it is something that fascinates me. But I'm not going to tell someone I
think they were abducted because I don't know if that's the truth phenomenon or not.
Oh no, I understand. That's why I said, like paranormal is
one thing, but like all that UFO and induction talk, that's totally other,
like thing another another or box, you know. I feel like one
way or the other, it's all connected. Between paranormal to UFO to cryptid
to all sorts of strangeness, it is all somehow under the same umbrella.
I don't know how it's connected, but I think it's all interweaved together.
Oh yeah, for sure it is. I feel the same. I feel
absolutely the same, like it's all working together or right, like, but
where's the link that everything is working together. There's a lot of different theories
out there, and like I said, I'm just a guy with a micron.
I don't have all the answers. I don't have any answer to be
under present. I don't know shit, but have do you do? You?
Would you want to like to share a story with me? Would you
like to know just a memorable a memorable experience you had, doesn't have to
be like speaking or any just like one that's solid that stage in your head.
The reason I do my podcast, and without going into the whole thing
on air, I back in two thousand and seven, I saw something walking
in the road that shouldn't have been walking in the road, and ever since
then, I've been pretty much on my skeptics quest of saying this isn't real,
as couldn't be possible. But in the back of my mind, I
knew on what I saw and made me question a lot of things. And
that's kind of why I do the podcast, because for fifteen years I felt
like I couldn't talk about what I saw, and I wanted to get people
the opportunity to talk about what things can like what happened to them because what
I saw it was crazy, and if someone told me what happened that I
had experienced, I would say that this person's clearly crazy. But since I
experienced it myself, I'm a lot more open minded about it, So that's
kind of why I do what I do exactly on that path to understand it
more. Yeah, someone told me that I was what I saw. I
saw it for a reason because I'm doing exactly what I was supposed to be
doing, giving people a chance to share their experience share experiences. Yeah,
so therefore it's kind of therapeutic for me and hopefully therapeutic for others. But
like I said before, it's it could be considered a little selfish of me
on my part because I'm doing it because I wanted to find answers for myself.
But I also wanted to give people a chance to share, so I
didn't feel so crazy about it. So it's like a mutual beneficial, like
a space, a safe space for people that I might not always believe everything,
like I said, I am. I've always been a skeptic, so
I struggle with accepting everything. But I'm not here to prove or disprove anybody
because I realized my own stuff sounds ridiculous, So who am I to judge
anybody else? Mm hmm Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, I had it,
And I said I had a because you were saying you see something. I
had a prep experience. I didn't see it, but uh, it was
just weird thing in and my grandma in from Mexico. I move into it
growing up in Mexico. Summer nineteen ninety four, my mom decided she was
a little chicks, so we build a little chicken coop in this like little
room. It's half way done with bricks, so it's like I want to
say, like four feet tall and didn't have wiring. My mom bought a
bunch of chicks. She bought a bunch of chicks, and we didn't live
with our grandmother. We actually lived in the home house like further down the
road. And I remember when every one day, maybe about three days after
we had gotten those chicks, like half of those chicks were like dead and
they weren't There was like no blood anywhere you could tell like some of them
were like trying to run away from whatever it was because like they was stuck
between like the brick wall and the chicken wire. It was just weird thing
to see as a little kid. And I remember my mom mentionedly because I've
never seen, you know, a dead chick or chicken was wow. Picked
them up giving to my mom, and I remember my mom mentioned something she
was talking at a man just like this is weird, like there's no blood
anywhere, but like they have like these weird two holes on their next like
they're what I was just like. And I remember around that same time,
like you know, we got our newsroom radio. We didn't have a teaving
out there, and there was like talks of this creature that they're saying,
like you're finding in Central America. You can find in the Rego south south
of Mexico, and it was called the Chicago but there were talking about radio.
This wasn't thanks And I was staying out there night before and uh,
my grandmother had thought it was the cats, and you know it's sad,
but my grandmother you know, got rid of the cats just like no something.
And then like we probably had like seven chicks luck and like two days
later, my brother and I go down there and like the same thing,
like but all of them were dead this time, and like Mom, like
there's no like what's normals at a snake or whatever, almost like don't want
and my grandma goes to that sad, I guess it wasn't the cats.
And I remember like asking the mom, like Mom, like this stuff on
the radio, like you think that's what it is? Like Lish is like,
no, I don't think that that's U. But that's like how to
double. It was like, I don't, I don't know, Like she
was like, can be did I ever see it? No, because you
know, I didn't live with my grandmother. It was just the way those
animals die, and how the popularity of that animal was happening in I just
thought it would be I've been like tripped in maybe it was a cryptid.
You never knew. I mean, I would never know, but at the
time, I think deep down and next all it was when it comes to
cryptids, it's always it's hard to say yes or no toe something, especially
when you don't see it, because then you're like, well, you look
for logical explanations to it, and then when you can rule out all the
logical explanations and you're left, well, okay, well what the hell is
it? And for me, I don't think I've ever actually said this.
Last year, on my way home from work, it was about a year
ago now, but I was driving home at night because I had to work
overnights on a job for some reason, and this animal came across the road
and the way it was moving. It looked like it was on all fours,
but I don't know what it would have been because it's really big for
an animal on all fours as of there's like really low to the ground.
So I've almost wondered if it wasn't like a badger or like a wolverine type
thing, But I don't know if we have any of those down here.
I'm sure we could be, but I've never seen anything like isn't it like
it isn't there something called the dog man? Yeah, he describes. Yeah,
that's uh, that's what a lot of people say I saw back in
two thousand and seven. But I just saw an upright walking canine back then,
So I don't say dog man in the sense because it looked like a
normal dog, but it didn't have the human hands or human feet like typical
dog men do. But I saw a dog standing up on two legs like
a human and walking, So I can't really explain that one. But this
thing from last this thing from last year literally looked like a normal animal,
but it was very big. For it was bigger than a normal awesome or
a raccoon or whatever, bigger than that, but it wasn't that. If
it was a dog, it was crawling on it's belly, which was strange,
but it didn't look like a dog either. I honestly think it was
like a wolverine or a badger or something like that, because a beaver,
like a big old beaver. Yeah, I don't think it was one of
those either though, because it was coming out of a cornfield. There'd be
no water sources for a beaver to be a room. Yeah, yeah,
I just you see strange things at night time, so you never really know
what it is, especially we only see a glimpse of it when it runs
across the road. But yeah, I can only imagine like people who live
out in the world and sort out in those open roads, like all the
stuff that they can see, they are there's so many things mm hmm.
And they're coming out like all these more of the big fliff stories. They're
coming out more and more because people are moving deep and two points of the
woods, like you're in their terrain, you're and and they're like land now,
so there's more medeos of them out there. I think a lot of
the taboo is being washed away, at least with Bigfoot. I know it's
still not really accepted to say you saw Bigfoot, but I've seen a lot
of stickers of Bigfoot. There's a lot more people to talk about Bigfoot.
And then mainstream you see obviously Jack Links has commercials for Bigfoot. There's been
movies, there's Bigfoot's a little more universally acceptable. I think. I don't
think everyone still believes, but at the same time, I think that they're
more open to the idea. But when it comes to some of these other
things, it's still on the woo woo side. A lot of people are
like, that isn't real. Well, no, I feel there's different yeah,
dimensions and all these that's where they look a big fit dog and in
walkers, we just come out of other areas. That is a possibility.
I think, yeah, well, we can probably wrap this one up if
you're good with it, unless there's anything else you'd like to talk about.
No, I feel good. I feel like, you know, I was
pace solid. I probably went on and on and on, but yeah again,
and like, thank you for having me, thank you for letting me
share, you know, my experiences with not just you but your listeners,
and uh, we're all out here we all, I'm sharing experiences and thank
you for for ryan that swe No, I definitely appreciate you having on tonight
and talking with me. It's been a pleasure. Yeah, and hopefully with
again have a chat again. I am going to be investigating a house house
that has never been investigating tetern Santonio. People have moved out and new people
are about to move into in like two weeks. So I got this weekend
to do an investigation for a residential home and I'm appreciate I'm gonna get instolid
with peace from that place, and I have a feeling I might get like
an image or a media or something, just have a feeling. I'll absolutely
be sharing that stuff too. Yeah, definitely let me know. Absolutely.
Thank you well again, I appreciate you coming on here and talk with me.
It's been a pleasure and I hope you have a good night. So
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