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And I just turned around and I
call ass out of there. I was

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done. I wasn't deal with them. The hypocrisy of the cult is one

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of the things that turned me away
the quickest. When I turned my head

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lights on, it turned and looked
at us. And one of the things

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I remember the most, where the
eyes were glowing red. I see an

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orb of light. It is just
circling these steps like it is waiting for

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me. And he begins to tell
them that he saw UFO. They're basically

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like, what are you talking about. That's seven foot up on a tree,

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peeking around it, and that's where
I saw the top of the muzzle,

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noose and the eyes. As soon
as I made eye contact with this

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thing, I don't like death.
Welcome back to tenfoil Tels. I'm your

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host, Brandon Ragt. Tonight's episode, we're gonna be joined by my guest,

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Christy. Christy is a paranormal researcher. She had some experiences at a

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young age which has projected on this
path, so I'm looking forward to talking

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with her about all that before we
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events. The first one is pair
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the Miami County four h Fairgrounds,
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few miles down the road from where
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there's also the Crawfordsville First Annual Paranormal
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Indiana. I'll also be speaking of
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that I've experienced and some of the
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to bring the whole family. But
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into our episode with Christy. Been
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you guys enjoy the conversation, to
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I like to take the time to
welcome my guest tonight, Christy.

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Thanks for coming on here and talking
to me. Absolutely thanks for having me

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here. I'm excited, not a
problem, my pleasure. Would you like

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to let the audience know a little
bit about yourself? Yeah, absolutely so.

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I'm Christie and I'm into you know, paranormal stuff. I believe you

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know, UFOs are experiences with Currently, I live out here in San Antonio,

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Texas, and I moved from Oklahoma
that's where I work people, but

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I'm originally from California. Currently I'm
running like, uh, like a personal

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investigation. I've been doing a lot
of like paranormal investigating by myself for a

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while now, and I felt like
maybe it's time to like, you know,

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reach out to the paranormal community and
uh see what we can get put

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together. You know. So I
do third eye paranormal investigations on Facebook and

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actually that's how I found you.
Through all these poor paranormal pages and like

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haunting pages. And I enjoy the
stories that people come and up on your

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show and talk about. You know, it's a it's a it's a thing.

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It's a real thing. And because
of personal experiences, you know,

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early on in my childhood, even
as an adult, like you know,

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I just want to seek what's out
there. So that's me, that's Christine,

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what I'm doing right now, So
let me sew the paranormal. So

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like growing up, like you know, there's there's a area in California called

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Stilmar in California, and I experienced
a lot of paranormal to be out there.

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My sister looked like in a ranch
house. It was a huge ranch

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house and it had horse saws and
sired house and at night, like you

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would hear horses out there, but
she did and owning horses at all.

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And one night, like you can
hear the horse like running back and forth,

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and like you could hear like it
ran up to the window and just

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stopped there and then like you know, just like noise, and we opened

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the window. There was in the
horse out there. I encountered a gentleman.

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Oh and this was in the daytime. She was picking up all of

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the off the four silmar was like
a big olive oi true back in the

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eighteen hundreds, and all of trees
still thrive out there, and so do

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Situs truth. And this gentleman he
was picking up all of us off too

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and putting them in the oudther pouch. And he was solid, like he

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was solid, and he spoke to
me in Spanish and we had like a

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little chit constinction. I thank there's
nice and look at the solid fall and

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I was like, yeah, sure, I was around. I'm gonna say

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twilve and I was like, let
me help you pick up olives. And

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I remember picking up follows and when
I turned around, that old man was

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but he was solid. I wasn't
like transparent or anything. I didn't share

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that story with anybody until years years
have gone by and I got talked to

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my sisters house at my sister's house, and she was all like so and

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so she shared the exactly same storyline. So you guys ever talked to teaching

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with balks and no, I've never
told anybody you so like other people whoever

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was in the household to experience this
old man. So that's why you know,

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now I'm doing all this paranormal stuff
on the side just to you know,

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help me understand more about paranormal stuff. And there was some stuff.

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It's just all that stuff, all
the experiences. It's you know, there's

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something out there, and there's so
much literature out there and there's so much,

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so many videos out there. What
did he look like like far as

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like clothing wise and stuff. Did
he looked like a modernized person or no?

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Absolutely, Like I'm sorry I didn't
describe that I usually do. But

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it was like a white like bob
with a like a leather belt and he

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was wearing changlas, which is up
those leather sandals that farmers used towear back

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in the day. That's another thing
about the story. He was not dressed

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nineteen nineties, you know, he
was like a legit old looking far more

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man. And he was in the
area where the horse stalls were, where

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we would hear the horse sits,
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when you think about the area and
so are and like I mentioned for the

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olive vultures, and it's like I
felt like it was a reoccurring haunting because

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people also see the exact thing so
that gentleman out there is reliving that thing

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everyone so often when there's a moment
in time like you entered your same So

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I mentioned because he was solid.
He wasn't like them a lot of people

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see, you know, transparent people. This person was legit solid, and

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I wasn't the one. He spoke
Spanish. I said, what is he

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speaking? That's weird. I'm sorry, Yes, yeah, he spoke.

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Yes, we had a conversation.
And the other person that experienced that she

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had she also had the same conversation. And what's another thing. She was

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also the age I was. She
seen him a year after I seen him,

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So when I was twelve by seeing
him and when she was I don't

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know if that's a weird thing,
but what was the conversation? Oh,

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so my sister she has pick poles. So I went out back, you

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know, set the dogs out.
There's this gentleman and he's right there by

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the horse was by the side door, and there's like two olive trees out

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there and they're just full of olives. And there's this gentleman like his legit

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looks like in the old times,
like in the time farmer with his white

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flaw top that's what I remember.
His leather belt, h a chap glass.

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He had a leather sack. Leather
sack, like old looking man.

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I would say, like my father, but maybe a little shorter. And

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he's like, it's nice house,
it is. I said, yeah,

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it is real nice. And I
was just like looking at him. I

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says everything okay, He's like,
yes, I'm just bick knowledge. And

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that's when I looked down. I
realized there was a bunch of dollets on

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the floor, and I was like, okay. I figured maybe like my

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sister would let the neighbor come in
because my my, my mother grows gardens

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and she's always grown gardens and the
neighbors would come in and get whatever,

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like pepper and tomatoes, whatever she
had. You know, she didn't care.

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So I thought I was maybe like
that, like she let the neighbors

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come to the gay if they see
all of these pick allars. And I

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went around turning around to pick all
this for him, and I turn around.

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He was not there anymore. Yeah, And I remember like I looked

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around and I was like, oriole
like my sister, I was like,

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come on, let's go in the
house. And I go in the house

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and I close the doors and I
didn't I don't know about it because he

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was too solid. Like I thought
that was super weird that I encountered that,

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because you know, like I said, translucent people, you know,

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they're not there. M h.
And I had a conversation with him,

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and not just in English like Spanish. It was a Spanish conversation. Do

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you know like the land itself,
like is that like an old area,

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because I'm wondering if it's something one
that was attached to the land itself.

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Yes, that's what I think as
well. That's why I said, like

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it's a it's a talent in California
called still Are California back in they ain't

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two hundreds on two hundreds. It's
like right there, not in the area,

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but like maybe ten miles from there
was like the first nish in this

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acronomal valley. So all that all
that area was like orchards like Ciitrous orchards,

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and and all of orchards like there
were big old ranches. So that's

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old old history back there. So
that's so my sister, that house was

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on a you can tell like it
was an old ranch. That's why I

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when you think about it, like
I mentioned, like back in day lunch,

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and it's a recurring I feel like
it's a recurring event because someone else

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had the same almost the same conversation
with this gentleman a year later when the

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olives are on the ground, like
right, So I feel like it was

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a reoccurring event on this ranch.
She had the horse singles also at that

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property. I mean, I'm totally
there with you. Like the Native Americans,

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how they used to have them dressed
like that, but it was like

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more like rancher. I would say, like they don't plan shattle. I

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say that. The image I got
was like the old late eighteen hundreds,

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like ranch hand type person. Yeah, yeah, the older gentleman. And

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I'm a short person. I'm five
to two, so he was like a

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little bit shorter than I was,
but he because he was like a little

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bit hunched back. He was an
older gentleman. Did he have like a

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mustache or beard or anything. That's
the one thing I don't remember, but

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I do remember like he could you
know, he looked like a relative of

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mine, like that that Mexican man
old man style face, just those high

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cheek bones and eyes and just the
dark skin but just the older gentleman.

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Mhmm. Yeah, and that's the
and that like you said, historic the

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land. Yeah, I believe that
he's tied there. That's where he was

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a long time ago, but he
legit needs to pick up all of us

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around that are I believe. I
feel like sometimes there's I don't know the

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exact terminology to use, but sometimes
they say like these spirits or whatever their

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trapped doing the same thing, like
a record, like it's like a memory

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and planet into the world or whatever, like they're constantly doing the same same

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thing. But the fact that he
talked to you kind of makes me think,

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well, it can't be that because
it'd just be out there picking.

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He wouldn't be able to communicate or
what. That's a different element too,

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So it is kind of strange,
right, That is super strange because that

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wasn't the first time I've experienced like, oh, like the paranormal stuff,

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but in the solid form like dealing
like I thought, or I believe strong

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only that it's I had a dream
when at a very young age that there

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is this weird man following me and
uh. In the dream, I'm walking

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my nephew home who's like literally just
like up the street and the gate was

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broken to the apartment complex and there's
a big tree right there, and then

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I don't I think it's part of
mestique. But in my first problem mesquite

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like you know, there's that big
old tree and that's like a meaning to

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like that tree symbol it like needs
like protect, be protected, like it's

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a strong tree. And that she
was there and the gate was broken,

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and there's like this man and like
blue jeans and a hoodie that's like it's

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like a skater guy like right there. And for some reason, I was

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all like I wasn't going home.
It's like, okay, he went home.

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I will tell your mom outside and
he's like okay. And this guy

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approaches me and I was, for
some reason in the gym like how old

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are you? He doesn't answer me, and then I just hear a pop

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and I look and like I'm like
bleeding, like he shot me. And

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I was like, wow, this
is crazy. Then my brother wakes me

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up. My brother wakes me up. He's like waking me up to like

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little chit. Adam's like, hey, you know our cousin, like she's

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gone, she like killed herself.
So I had this crazy freaking nightmare on

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a night that my cousin had killed
herself. So after that, I kept

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having dreams as a hoodie guy,
but he was like in the background in

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my dreams, like for a few
months. And then like one time I

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came home from the party and I
got dropped off and across the street like

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there's a twitty guy that sand may
now just like what I remember, like

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ringing to my apartment and I was
like chicking balls. But like that's another

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Like I knew that thing was solid. Like so that was like my second,

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uh encounter with a solid paranormal singing, like I knew he was there,

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Like he wasn't solid, like he
was solid like something. Do you

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say this was the same area,
No, this wasn't the same in the

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same town. So like all the
soap Fernano Valley all of that. It's

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north of of Hollywood, so Hollywood. Remember it was like all our new

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culture back in the day. Like
it was all farms. It wasn't Hollywood

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great orchards. Uh, the citrus, the olives ranching at the ranchers.

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There there's missions out there, no
Native Americans like all that went that was

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the land before it was Hollywood before
it is what it is that was all

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Native American, not so that that
area where I was living at the time

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too had it was like not a
good neighborhood in the city, so that

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was had crimes going on. That's
why I thought like it was probably gang

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member stalking me, but it wasn't. It was something uh like that came

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from somewhere and follow them like for
a whole solid year, and so like

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I faced and told it to like
leave me alone, and then I would

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see it sporadically and then it wasn't
until like I was still I was living

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in Oklahoma. Was the last time
I sign it, which is like ten

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years ago, but like that's like
thirty years of my life until I finally

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told it to like leave me alone, Like what the fuck are you doing?

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You just show up in a dream
and then you just it was it's

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just weird stuff. That was just
another that I believe was a solid paranormal

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thing. And I had to do
it with like my cousin's dead, because

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how would I have such that weird, vivid dream when she like killed herself

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and we had a good, like
solid bond, like me and my cousin

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had a good solid bond too,
where I thought it was like a sign

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or something. But it got real
bad that like I went to my mom,

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Mom, like I don't know if
you're gonna leave me a lot,

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but like this is what's happening.
So for about a month I wasn't allowed

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to leave the house because they thought
like death was following me. Mm hm.

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So, but like my sister will
still tell me to go to her

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house to help with beaming certain boys, you know, so I'd be like,

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okay. So one night she wakes
me up, like at two in

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the morning. My nephews are still
playing radio games. She's like, hey,

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I left the diaper bag out in
the car, can you go get

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it? And I was like yeah, yeah, yeah. She's like,

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hey, take no, you're nephew
with you. I said, okay,

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okay. So I'm walking outside and
I'm walking outside in front of her apartment

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building and like I feel like I'm
getting like days job at that moment.

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Why do I feel And it hits
me like I'm here in the dark,

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I'm going towards my sister's parking lot
with my nephew like in the dream,

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like kind of like the dream because
the dream I was in the front and

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this time I was like an actual
park lot in the bat and I had

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my nephew in the dream, and
the gate was broken. But like it's

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not hitting me at that moment,
but it's like my brain is processing this

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stuff as I like walk towards in
his car and I look to my life

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and I see that the gate is
like broken, and there's that guy,

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hooded guy just standing right there,
and there's a tree. It's not the

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tree in my dream, but there's
still a big tree there. So I

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was like, what, like this
is like weird right now? What is

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going on? And the guy starts
walking. This is like two in the

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morning, Like there's nobody around parking
lot lights not that well, I'm leaving

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this SNA from now on the valley. I can be like we gave mug

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right now. It can be a
gang member, it can be like something,

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But I know it's not like the
immediate moment of knowing like this is

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the guy in my dream. This
is the guy I've been seeing all around

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town. And it happened just like
it happened in the dream. I told

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my nephew, Hey, I'll say
like go upstairs and tired, Mom,

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I'm outside in the parking lot,
and he my nephew, like he looked

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at it, like he's seeing it, and he looked at me and he

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ran and said okay. But for
some reason, I'm like still walking towards

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car. And then he's like walking
into the parking lot. Like he's like

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walking into the parking lot. He's
walking towards the park and I'm like turned

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to the left and I stopped walking
and like, I don't know why I

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said, but I said, I
was like, how old? Are you?

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Just looking a dream? For some
reason, I asked them, all

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are you? And there was like
silence, and then all of a sudden,

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like I hear my sister screaming on
the top of her lung. She's

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like Christy, get your boy inside
right now, but real loud, like

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the whole neighborhood heard no doubt about
that. And I just remember, like

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when I looked to left to look
at this guy, like there was nothing

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there, and I ran up,
like I ran to the park want.

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I ran upstairs, and my nephew
was there, and my sisters like huffing

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and puffing. She's like this,
and she's like I'm sorry, Like,

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I'm sorry I made you go aside, and I was like, what is

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going on right now? She's like
Mom told me about you your dreams and

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how you feel like you're getting soft. Like I'm sorry. Uh, she's

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like whole say seeing it Like he
said that there was something nasty out there,

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and she was like, was it
a bad guy? He's like no,

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its like those nasty bad guys that
she's seeing in the shadows. Because

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my my nephew when who was little, used to see stuff. But yeah,

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so I I was like, this
is a solid her normal haunting.

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He's not. This person was not
translucent, Like was it death? Was

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it like the weird? I don't
know, Like that's still unexplainable. That's

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why I'm choosing to do like paranormal
investigations and dig deeper and like try to

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connect stuff because I do remember like
going to Mexico and then like because you

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know, uh, obviously I'm Exican
and I had a test to Mexico and

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my cousin she died out and I
remember when I went, you know,

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I was like I went, I
couldn't go to her grave, but to

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like her room. I was like, hey, like you know, sorry,

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what happened? Not that? And
I remember after doing that, like

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I didn't see that thing as much
like if I went I would see it.

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It's like if like I was doing
something really dumb. But that's a

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long time ago, and I'm glad
it did because it was he was not

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my nephew's seeing it. Like people
legit, believe me because I don't.

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I'm not that type of person to
like stay weird shit like that'll, dude,

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it's not a human person, like
I can tell. It's like from

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the spirit world. And I was
like, did something happen while I was

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asleep and dreaming in the same moment, And like because an author Sophie,

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we had was like sole connection,
Like was it just something weird like that

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that was able for whatever is thing
to manifest so solid. You mentioned your

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nephew sees things. What type of
stuff does he talk about. Well,

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he's a grown up now, he's
a military he's in the Air Force.

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But when he was little he used
to see people. I mean, you

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know, we see people. He
mentioned that he can see his uncle and

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he described his uncle and my sister's
tell and his uncle passed like way before

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my nephew was born, so he
shouldn't have any idea of who he'd be

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seen. No, No, because
because no one talked about him, because

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it was so long that he passed. It wasn't like those recent passing people

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will usually talk about them, but
no, this was a passing that you

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know, it was like maybe ten
years before my nephew was born. But

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like he would describe him growing up, it was just like, oh my

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goodness, he's he's describing this person
that no one, like I didn't know

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who this person was because my my
nephew's father never spoke about him. So

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that's strange. But kids do seem
to have a more of a connection and

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openness to the other side or whatever
you want to call it. Oh yeah,

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absolutely, one hundred percent. It's
like their brain is working on like

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eighty percent five percent, so like
they see things, they hear things they

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can cannot absolutely, I mean,
so it is it is sad to have

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to have grown up seeing this you
no, weird paranormal stuff and talking to

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your family about it and they believe
you because they've experienced it too. You

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know, I don't feel like you
know bad about it, Like Okay,

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this is a legit thing because I
remember my mom as a little girl,

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like, hey, like this little
girl, like she's in the house,

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no one sees her, but she
tells me to go with her, almost

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like you don't go with her,
Like you're gonna have imaginary friends. But

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if they tell you didn't follow them
and go with them or try to trying

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to make you do mean things,
like you tell me right away, you

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tell them to be alone. So
I knew at a young age, like

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expect to see their stuff and I
and it's I believed in my culture,

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in any American culture, like it's
heavy on the uh spirits and on the

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ghost, on the ancestors and and
stuff like that. So I'm grateful that

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I was in a family that was
to open to it. You know,

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they make you feel safe and understand
and help you understand. Mm hmm.

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You said you started doing your own
investigations and stuff. What is some of

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the things that you've experienced that you've
been investigating, well personally investigating, Like

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I've gotten a VP readings like voiceless. Oh, I don't know, like

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like their productivity, I don't have
I haven't I do have a photo and

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this was I'm gonna say in twenty
seventeen, twenty seventeen, I was doing

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ghost honting classes and I was doing
ghost hoigting classes. Just one of like

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the top ghost hunting ladies in Tulsa. Her name is Terry. I know

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her last one like it's in a
hidden stand. But she was giving these

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ghost hunting glasses. And we were
in the part of Tulsa. So it's

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called Cherry Street. Cherry Street back
in the day was the red light district

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for that part of Tulsa. The
Tulsa was a booming like the oil capital

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of the world at the time in
the early nineteen hundreds were like blowing up.

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There's millions moving out there. So
anyways, back to Cherry Street,

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so Cherry shoes, there had brothels
that had bars, you know, know

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a lot. She still happened in
that area. And there's one building and

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it's a bookstore. I'm not going
to name the bookstore because I don't know

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if they want that kind of you
know, a bunch of people talking there,

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but there's and if you go to
Tulsa, you'll you'll figure it out.

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And there's a book start talk on
the second floor. And we did

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our investigations in there. It was
such a fun time investigating. Like there

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we were being taught how to use
EVPs and how music ms and you know,

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how to feel with your body and
just you know, to pay attention.

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And she was great, like her
whole team is great. Mhm.

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And and so below the bookstores that
right now it's a massage parlor, but

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it was that building on the first
floor was a braw home. There's still

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like those massage rooms used to be, like, you know, n So

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one evening, I'm in one of
the rooms and it's just silence and it's

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just dark, and I'm doing the
ev T, I'm EVP, I'm a

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recorder on and a couple comes in
and they snap a picture and I,

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you know, I didn't mean to
speak them, but they didn't expect to

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see someone sitting in the chair because
I was sitting in your car. And

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then we're like, oh my gosh. I was like, yeah, don't

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I step by you guys snap the
room and they were still taking pictures.

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And then those pictures I have to
find on their own mind somewhere. But

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there's like the green worm and they
had light reflecting on it, and two

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separate pictures and that green worm was
like following me. And in that same

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room, I got a EVD and
so it's the voice of the man and

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he's mumbling. I can't really make
out that you can tell he's a male.

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And then there's a lay's voice that
comes in and she says, please

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be gentle with me. And I
was just like, oh my god,

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because it used to be a brothel
and this voice lands just heard is and

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the way she said it like please
be with me, like people don't shake

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like that nowadays. So that was
a cool like e VP that I got

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out there in Tolsa. Tulsa is
very ham and I love Tulsa. So

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back to Santonio. We've been to
a couple of places. There's a place

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called Aspata Apple Duc we've gotten and
I say we because I collaborate with another

407
00:33:42.680 --> 00:33:49.480
ghost here in the Texas rat Hunters
and we'll beat up at certain places here,

408
00:33:49.960 --> 00:33:55.359
uh Tantonio that are known as like
to have activity and a spot apple

409
00:33:55.960 --> 00:34:00.400
it's a good woman like does have
a solid activity. We went on one

410
00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:09.840
night on a full moon and I
think that's the EVP where I got or

411
00:34:10.639 --> 00:34:15.800
uh my her name, her name
is eating one of the girls on h

412
00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:20.639
third Night her normal stations, She's
like, ask me, like where are

413
00:34:20.840 --> 00:34:25.000
you? And like a female voice
is not my voice? Another female was

414
00:34:25.159 --> 00:34:29.920
like behind you? Oh my gosh. So right now I am getting like

415
00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:37.719
a good instlid H E T H
evidence because then all metric videos that we

416
00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:46.760
take and I can't hear that audio
on the video. So do you have

417
00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:51.039
any of those e vps available?
You can send them my way and I

418
00:34:51.039 --> 00:34:55.119
can include them in the episodes.
Oh. Absolutely. I think that one

419
00:34:55.159 --> 00:35:00.320
that I said like behind you,
I have it on YouTube because it's it's

420
00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:05.400
just so solid. It's like this
crazy solid whisper like rolls my mind.

421
00:35:06.159 --> 00:35:09.360
Like our buddy Lurker. He's like
saying something. He's saying like we had

422
00:35:09.400 --> 00:35:15.000
a million leader like your grandpa Rimp
parking with us, and he had a

423
00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:20.920
EMF device, but it was like
more like it tells them certain degrees and

424
00:35:21.039 --> 00:35:25.360
he was pulling out the numbers what
that gadget was saying. And then that's

425
00:35:25.400 --> 00:35:29.639
when em He's all like where are
you? And then like we hear the

426
00:35:29.719 --> 00:35:37.320
female voice saying behind you like like
that, and then it's like silence and

427
00:35:37.360 --> 00:35:42.159
then you hear me talk nonsense.
But the reason I I put my voice

428
00:35:42.199 --> 00:35:45.880
in the end to let it go
is so people can see like it wasn't

429
00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:51.679
my voice, it wasn't Evie,
it wasn't a lurker. It's another female

430
00:35:51.719 --> 00:35:55.519
voice that was there. And Amy
and I are we're the only two females

431
00:35:55.760 --> 00:36:01.760
at the time or either and when
we do our group collabs recently, it's

432
00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:07.840
just Edie and I are on too, females, so there's no way it

433
00:36:07.960 --> 00:36:13.360
was just like a little teenage girls. So I'll send that one to you.

434
00:36:13.480 --> 00:36:16.360
Absolutely have it on too, like
I said, And I'm working on

435
00:36:16.639 --> 00:36:22.559
editing a couple other like EVP clips
too at the time right now. And

436
00:36:22.679 --> 00:36:31.440
then we went on a hunt in
this old, beautiful like holmil looking home

437
00:36:32.199 --> 00:36:37.159
in the middle I don't even know, like it's like an hour south Santon.

438
00:36:37.519 --> 00:36:42.440
I had no idea what were that. I trust my race brothers to

439
00:36:42.599 --> 00:36:47.840
direct me in areas so we can, you know, look for the potential

440
00:36:49.719 --> 00:36:59.199
of paranormal. And I believe that
I got some some uh EVPs off of

441
00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:02.679
one of the bedrooms in that home
that homeless and it's being remodeled, but

442
00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:07.119
it's uh, you can tell the
house was built like an early nineteen hundreds,

443
00:37:07.320 --> 00:37:14.679
it was still in great shape.
Yeah, I can't wait till uh

444
00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:22.960
the EPs from now, but there's
yeah, and I'll send those sorts to

445
00:37:22.039 --> 00:37:25.679
me to anything that you have,
you can email them to me, and

446
00:37:27.559 --> 00:37:30.639
I guessaid I'll make sure to try
and include them here in the episode for

447
00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:37.440
anyone listening. Yeah. Yeah,
But I mean that's that's why I do

448
00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:42.000
all this paranormal stuff, because it's
just a bunch of weird stuff has happened

449
00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:45.519
in my life and in other people's
lives. Like people that I'm doing this

450
00:37:45.719 --> 00:37:52.920
with, they've encountered weird paranormal stuff
as well. So it's not like I'm

451
00:37:52.960 --> 00:38:00.400
alone with this, like we're all
you know, like like how you do

452
00:38:00.559 --> 00:38:05.639
it? It's not a lot of
people want to reach out. And I

453
00:38:05.639 --> 00:38:08.320
want to know about the after life, like obviously there's a lot of stuff

454
00:38:08.320 --> 00:38:12.320
going on in their afterlife, Like
I want to know how you guys do

455
00:38:12.360 --> 00:38:17.039
it in the afterlife, so once
I get during the one too. Yeah,

456
00:38:17.079 --> 00:38:21.559
there's a lot of weird stuff out
there that I don't think anyone really

457
00:38:21.639 --> 00:38:27.760
has all the answers, And there's
a lot of people doing the same thing

458
00:38:27.800 --> 00:38:30.920
that I do. We're all just
looking to find some sort of truth.

459
00:38:34.360 --> 00:38:40.079
Absolutely absolutely, and you know,
and it doesn't just stay in the parent

460
00:38:40.159 --> 00:38:46.159
almost section for me, like you
know, WEO foes aliens like that's legit.

461
00:38:46.320 --> 00:38:51.400
There's just so there's so much more
evidence out there right now, like

462
00:38:51.719 --> 00:39:02.599
there's no age to real other little
intelligence there. You know, you mentioned

463
00:39:02.639 --> 00:39:08.719
something about a UFO experience if you
want to talk about that. Yeah,

464
00:39:10.400 --> 00:39:15.639
this like this experience. I haven't. It was just until I'm listening like

465
00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:20.119
two years ago. I started sharing
because it was just too weird. And

466
00:39:20.239 --> 00:39:23.320
then I started, you know,
listening to podcasts and listening to other people's

467
00:39:23.400 --> 00:39:30.280
experiences and it's like, no,
uh yeah, that's crazy. Let me

468
00:39:30.440 --> 00:39:40.199
share share experience because obviously there's that
conspiracy where uh, it's like connected to

469
00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:45.159
your family, like if your parents
started so they're following you your grandparents or

470
00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:52.599
whatever. There's a theory about that
kind of stuff, So let's just start

471
00:39:52.679 --> 00:39:59.039
there. So I was I was
like seven years old at the time.

472
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:02.039
I did not like sleeping in my
bedroom because there was a creeping room and

473
00:40:02.079 --> 00:40:07.920
I'd rather just sleep And in the
little room there's two windows by the door,

474
00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:12.000
and I faced that door when I'm
sleeping on a couch and the and

475
00:40:12.119 --> 00:40:16.440
there's a kitchen and they had like
huge grain window. So I'm you know,

476
00:40:17.239 --> 00:40:22.119
I'm like falling asleep or I feel
like a bomb sleep. And then

477
00:40:23.559 --> 00:40:30.519
like right lights and through the through
the two front windows of the house like

478
00:40:30.760 --> 00:40:34.920
super bright, like if someone is
pulling up the driveway and has a hiving.

479
00:40:36.599 --> 00:40:38.519
And so I thought, okay,
someone's coming, so it was all

480
00:40:38.599 --> 00:40:45.280
bright. And then I noticed that
this brightness is also like coming out and

481
00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:50.719
they went out of the kitchen,
which is like r I was like,

482
00:40:50.920 --> 00:40:58.000
but in my head like this happened, those right lights shut off and then

483
00:40:59.320 --> 00:41:02.320
all of a sudden, the home
tire I say house because I was a

484
00:41:02.400 --> 00:41:05.800
kid, and that's what looked like
to me. The whole house was like

485
00:41:06.239 --> 00:41:08.079
lit up. So I'm in the
front room, it's all when news.

486
00:41:08.599 --> 00:41:14.519
My mom has like curtains but they're
white lace curtains, and it's like right,

487
00:41:14.920 --> 00:41:19.159
and I remember like that bright like
it went all the way to the

488
00:41:19.320 --> 00:41:23.760
top of the ceiling of the house, like so there's just white light on

489
00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:29.639
the sting on the house, like
white leaser, white light, and it's

490
00:41:29.679 --> 00:41:38.360
all like what other right now?
And then it like goes down like like

491
00:41:38.760 --> 00:41:45.360
like it was scanning at white light
and went up, going down and then

492
00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:49.760
went back up, and when it
went back up and turned with red like

493
00:41:50.760 --> 00:41:55.400
it turned with red. So I
was all like okay, and I'm still

494
00:41:55.519 --> 00:42:00.119
like waiting, like is it a
car? No, it's not like I

495
00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:05.159
see like you're dumb. It's not
carsh No, it's not that. And

496
00:42:05.280 --> 00:42:08.320
then the red lights are there and
then it does the thing like it's scanning.

497
00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:12.960
It's coming down and like everyone like
it came down close enough to me.

498
00:42:13.079 --> 00:42:15.199
And then next thing I remember,
I'm waching up in the morning time.

499
00:42:16.880 --> 00:42:27.199
That's it. As I'm trying to
do you feel like when you woke

500
00:42:27.320 --> 00:42:30.559
up, did you feel like something
that maybe happened, like an abduction.

501
00:42:31.519 --> 00:42:35.360
Do you feel like that was something
that could have happened or I don't know.

502
00:42:37.679 --> 00:42:42.480
I wouldn't what like alien of Dutch. Possibly, I wouldn't suggest doing

503
00:42:42.679 --> 00:42:45.760
like I don't know you need type
of I'm very lary when it comes to

504
00:42:46.000 --> 00:42:51.760
hypnotist and asking questions and stuff.
I feel like sometimes the certain questions can

505
00:42:51.880 --> 00:42:58.840
make you think things. They not
intentionally implement that into your brain, but

506
00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:02.199
some with hips, those questions and
trigger things. And someone says, oh,

507
00:43:02.239 --> 00:43:05.599
they're they're bringing out the blog memories. I was like, or they're

508
00:43:05.599 --> 00:43:10.800
putting those memories in their fall stories. So I'm literally when it comes to

509
00:43:10.840 --> 00:43:15.519
stuff like that, like that's the
solid crazy, like what the fuck?

510
00:43:15.800 --> 00:43:22.519
Like because so I hadn't. I
didn't share it right for me for years,

511
00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:28.400
not until like two or three years
ago. But then the older I

512
00:43:28.519 --> 00:43:31.280
get stories were and I would there
was like I thought I would be dreaming,

513
00:43:31.360 --> 00:43:38.039
but like it'd be like three three
years sometimes like wake up this next

514
00:43:38.119 --> 00:43:44.679
day, but like it came out
that Like my dad growing up, he's

515
00:43:44.719 --> 00:43:49.679
kind of weird, like he's seeing
a uk in the sky like it was

516
00:43:49.800 --> 00:43:54.880
close to their branch like and it
wasn't like out in the sky sky like

517
00:43:55.000 --> 00:44:01.760
it was like in the sky like
below them. And this was like when

518
00:44:01.840 --> 00:44:07.159
he was young if he he my
father is very religiously doesn't I'm like to

519
00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:12.159
talk about that stuff. But he
shared it to like my sister long long,

520
00:44:12.280 --> 00:44:15.400
long, long, long long time
ago, like years ago. He's

521
00:44:15.480 --> 00:44:19.440
like, I think she was like
reading a book on it. You know

522
00:44:19.679 --> 00:44:22.840
sometimes the schools they let you choose
like books owd of like her like it's

523
00:44:23.480 --> 00:44:30.559
or triangle stuff like that, and
he's like, but don't tell nobody,

524
00:44:31.559 --> 00:44:37.639
because you know, people think they're
craiz But then like all this weird stuff

525
00:44:37.400 --> 00:44:45.400
and because her normal is one thing
like spirits are there everywhere. They're everywhere.

526
00:44:45.519 --> 00:44:53.760
You can't ye know that that's that
thin. That wall is very very

527
00:44:53.840 --> 00:45:00.519
thin. But like the ami stuff, that's like just more crazier. Like

528
00:45:00.519 --> 00:45:05.599
I feel to share. But once
I start sharing it, like they're like,

529
00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:08.280
you know so and so seen it
and they're in the family, And

530
00:45:08.360 --> 00:45:13.239
I was like what my brother he
started as like, yeah, man,

531
00:45:13.519 --> 00:45:16.760
everyone camping. He was like like
he'd s started in this guy and then

532
00:45:16.800 --> 00:45:22.800
I'll stop them was dying and then
just exactly the way. And I believe

533
00:45:23.079 --> 00:45:28.000
because you know, out in the
middle of nowhere when we go camping,

534
00:45:28.159 --> 00:45:31.199
like the stars are bright, you
can see everything. I was like,

535
00:45:32.280 --> 00:45:38.840
have they been so much my dad
before our dad? I do believe in

536
00:45:38.920 --> 00:45:46.400
that families they're studying, you just
keeps going. I don't know, like

537
00:45:49.840 --> 00:45:53.159
I don't know how things work when
it comes to UFOs or spirits or anything

538
00:45:53.199 --> 00:46:00.639
about that, but I don't feel
like things travel through space to come here

539
00:46:00.719 --> 00:46:08.159
and study, like just a random
person, and I understand the whole concept

540
00:46:08.199 --> 00:46:12.159
of abductions of why they would be
here to do that, because look what

541
00:46:12.239 --> 00:46:15.079
we do to animals in our own
world, Like we will pick out a

542
00:46:15.159 --> 00:46:19.719
random anily take, investigate, look
at a tag it, put it back

543
00:46:19.719 --> 00:46:22.320
in the wild. I can see
a high I can see a highly advanced

544
00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:27.320
civilization traveling and doing that because they
have interest in our plan and interest in

545
00:46:27.480 --> 00:46:31.880
us. But at the same time, if they're smart enough and advance enough

546
00:46:31.920 --> 00:46:35.639
that they can travel through space,
why would they come all the way do

547
00:46:35.760 --> 00:46:37.639
the same things we're doing when they
be further advanced to where they didn't have

548
00:46:37.719 --> 00:46:40.599
to rely on us to do stuff
like that? Like if they come here

549
00:46:40.800 --> 00:46:45.199
for what people say, they abduct
people and they do these experiments on them,

550
00:46:45.239 --> 00:46:47.679
and they're doing these hybrid stuff.
Like when you start to go down

551
00:46:47.760 --> 00:46:52.960
a whole woof factor of abductions,
I don't know where I stand on it

552
00:46:53.039 --> 00:46:57.880
because some of it just doesn't seem
to make sense. But a lot of

553
00:46:57.920 --> 00:47:02.199
stuff in this whole weird realm doesn't
make sense to me. But that's why

554
00:47:02.239 --> 00:47:07.679
I do what I do. Well. Yeah, sometimes sometimes when I think,

555
00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:12.559
like what makes us think? Really
like like you know all those sci

556
00:47:12.679 --> 00:47:15.760
fi books like Star and Not,
and they means like Star Wars and Star

557
00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:21.440
Trek, Like there's so many clients
out there, Like what if like we're

558
00:47:21.599 --> 00:47:27.440
like one, you know, one
experiment out of the jailing experiments out there,

559
00:47:27.559 --> 00:47:32.239
that all these certain types of UFOs
and aliens are coming. They all

560
00:47:32.320 --> 00:47:38.079
each got some weird stuff going on
the way we're all. I think it's

561
00:47:38.199 --> 00:47:44.800
mathematically saying two. I don't know
the proper verbiage of how to say,

562
00:47:44.880 --> 00:47:50.000
but like, I think it's mathematically
sound to say that there should be more

563
00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:58.320
than us just in our own galaxy. And they say there's how many galaxies,

564
00:47:58.360 --> 00:48:02.960
But just in our own galaxy there
should be like multiple thousands of civilizations,

565
00:48:04.000 --> 00:48:08.440
advanced civilizations. You would think maybe
even more just off the mathematical equations

566
00:48:08.480 --> 00:48:14.719
of planets around a star. How
many stars are out there every planet has

567
00:48:15.679 --> 00:48:19.280
or so many stars have so many
planets, Like, mathematically you would think

568
00:48:19.360 --> 00:48:23.239
somewhere there'd be intelligent life. But
whatever reason, we've never been able to

569
00:48:23.840 --> 00:48:31.960
quote unquote communicate with it that we're
aware of. So that's right. I

570
00:48:32.119 --> 00:48:36.719
still believe that there's something out there. What it is, I have no

571
00:48:36.840 --> 00:48:42.159
idea is coming here and taking people
possibly. I don't know. I've never

572
00:48:42.239 --> 00:48:45.159
been abducted to my knowledge. I
mean, I've had some weird stuff,

573
00:48:45.239 --> 00:48:49.800
but to my knowledge, I don't
remember if anything was really happening. So

574
00:48:50.920 --> 00:48:53.760
it is something that fascinates me.
But I'm not going to tell someone I

575
00:48:53.800 --> 00:48:59.280
think they were abducted because I don't
know if that's the truth phenomenon or not.

576
00:49:00.679 --> 00:49:05.639
Oh no, I understand. That's
why I said, like paranormal is

577
00:49:05.679 --> 00:49:10.159
one thing, but like all that
UFO and induction talk, that's totally other,

578
00:49:10.440 --> 00:49:15.960
like thing another another or box,
you know. I feel like one

579
00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:21.400
way or the other, it's all
connected. Between paranormal to UFO to cryptid

580
00:49:21.480 --> 00:49:24.800
to all sorts of strangeness, it
is all somehow under the same umbrella.

581
00:49:25.639 --> 00:49:29.440
I don't know how it's connected,
but I think it's all interweaved together.

582
00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:35.000
Oh yeah, for sure it is. I feel the same. I feel

583
00:49:35.320 --> 00:49:38.880
absolutely the same, like it's all
working together or right, like, but

584
00:49:39.079 --> 00:49:44.559
where's the link that everything is working
together. There's a lot of different theories

585
00:49:44.599 --> 00:49:47.559
out there, and like I said, I'm just a guy with a micron.

586
00:49:47.599 --> 00:49:50.440
I don't have all the answers.
I don't have any answer to be

587
00:49:50.559 --> 00:49:54.639
under present. I don't know shit, but have do you do? You?

588
00:49:54.760 --> 00:50:00.280
Would you want to like to share
a story with me? Would you

589
00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:09.599
like to know just a memorable a
memorable experience you had, doesn't have to

590
00:50:09.719 --> 00:50:15.920
be like speaking or any just like
one that's solid that stage in your head.

591
00:50:16.880 --> 00:50:21.920
The reason I do my podcast,
and without going into the whole thing

592
00:50:22.039 --> 00:50:28.719
on air, I back in two
thousand and seven, I saw something walking

593
00:50:28.760 --> 00:50:34.320
in the road that shouldn't have been
walking in the road, and ever since

594
00:50:34.360 --> 00:50:39.280
then, I've been pretty much on
my skeptics quest of saying this isn't real,

595
00:50:39.360 --> 00:50:42.320
as couldn't be possible. But in
the back of my mind, I

596
00:50:42.360 --> 00:50:46.800
knew on what I saw and made
me question a lot of things. And

597
00:50:46.960 --> 00:50:51.960
that's kind of why I do the
podcast, because for fifteen years I felt

598
00:50:51.960 --> 00:50:53.199
like I couldn't talk about what I
saw, and I wanted to get people

599
00:50:53.280 --> 00:50:59.440
the opportunity to talk about what things
can like what happened to them because what

600
00:50:59.559 --> 00:51:05.400
I saw it was crazy, and
if someone told me what happened that I

601
00:51:05.480 --> 00:51:08.119
had experienced, I would say that
this person's clearly crazy. But since I

602
00:51:08.199 --> 00:51:13.519
experienced it myself, I'm a lot
more open minded about it, So that's

603
00:51:13.559 --> 00:51:19.320
kind of why I do what I
do exactly on that path to understand it

604
00:51:19.440 --> 00:51:23.599
more. Yeah, someone told me
that I was what I saw. I

605
00:51:23.679 --> 00:51:27.440
saw it for a reason because I'm
doing exactly what I was supposed to be

606
00:51:27.519 --> 00:51:35.280
doing, giving people a chance to
share their experience share experiences. Yeah,

607
00:51:36.199 --> 00:51:39.519
so therefore it's kind of therapeutic for
me and hopefully therapeutic for others. But

608
00:51:39.639 --> 00:51:45.159
like I said before, it's it
could be considered a little selfish of me

609
00:51:45.239 --> 00:51:49.400
on my part because I'm doing it
because I wanted to find answers for myself.

610
00:51:49.559 --> 00:51:53.320
But I also wanted to give people
a chance to share, so I

611
00:51:53.320 --> 00:52:00.440
didn't feel so crazy about it.
So it's like a mutual beneficial, like

612
00:52:00.519 --> 00:52:06.639
a space, a safe space for
people that I might not always believe everything,

613
00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:09.199
like I said, I am.
I've always been a skeptic, so

614
00:52:09.320 --> 00:52:14.440
I struggle with accepting everything. But
I'm not here to prove or disprove anybody

615
00:52:14.480 --> 00:52:19.920
because I realized my own stuff sounds
ridiculous, So who am I to judge

616
00:52:19.920 --> 00:52:29.480
anybody else? Mm hmm Yeah,
Yeah, Yeah, I had it,

617
00:52:31.360 --> 00:52:35.519
And I said I had a because
you were saying you see something. I

618
00:52:35.599 --> 00:52:39.599
had a prep experience. I didn't
see it, but uh, it was

619
00:52:39.679 --> 00:52:43.880
just weird thing in and my grandma
in from Mexico. I move into it

620
00:52:45.039 --> 00:52:51.239
growing up in Mexico. Summer nineteen
ninety four, my mom decided she was

621
00:52:51.599 --> 00:52:55.239
a little chicks, so we build
a little chicken coop in this like little

622
00:52:55.320 --> 00:53:01.079
room. It's half way done with
bricks, so it's like I want to

623
00:53:01.079 --> 00:53:07.440
say, like four feet tall and
didn't have wiring. My mom bought a

624
00:53:07.480 --> 00:53:12.039
bunch of chicks. She bought a
bunch of chicks, and we didn't live

625
00:53:12.119 --> 00:53:15.800
with our grandmother. We actually lived
in the home house like further down the

626
00:53:15.960 --> 00:53:22.280
road. And I remember when every
one day, maybe about three days after

627
00:53:22.519 --> 00:53:29.199
we had gotten those chicks, like
half of those chicks were like dead and

628
00:53:30.639 --> 00:53:35.360
they weren't There was like no blood
anywhere you could tell like some of them

629
00:53:35.400 --> 00:53:38.159
were like trying to run away from
whatever it was because like they was stuck

630
00:53:38.239 --> 00:53:44.079
between like the brick wall and the
chicken wire. It was just weird thing

631
00:53:44.119 --> 00:53:47.880
to see as a little kid.
And I remember my mom mentionedly because I've

632
00:53:47.920 --> 00:53:53.599
never seen, you know, a
dead chick or chicken was wow. Picked

633
00:53:53.599 --> 00:53:57.519
them up giving to my mom,
and I remember my mom mentioned something she

634
00:53:57.639 --> 00:54:00.719
was talking at a man just like
this is weird, like there's no blood

635
00:54:00.719 --> 00:54:06.840
anywhere, but like they have like
these weird two holes on their next like

636
00:54:06.960 --> 00:54:12.719
they're what I was just like.
And I remember around that same time,

637
00:54:12.920 --> 00:54:17.880
like you know, we got our
newsroom radio. We didn't have a teaving

638
00:54:17.960 --> 00:54:24.039
out there, and there was like
talks of this creature that they're saying,

639
00:54:24.119 --> 00:54:30.719
like you're finding in Central America.
You can find in the Rego south south

640
00:54:30.840 --> 00:54:36.199
of Mexico, and it was called
the Chicago but there were talking about radio.

641
00:54:36.280 --> 00:54:44.519
This wasn't thanks And I was staying
out there night before and uh,

642
00:54:45.039 --> 00:54:51.239
my grandmother had thought it was the
cats, and you know it's sad,

643
00:54:51.480 --> 00:54:54.559
but my grandmother you know, got
rid of the cats just like no something.

644
00:54:57.920 --> 00:55:02.400
And then like we probably had like
seven chicks luck and like two days

645
00:55:02.440 --> 00:55:06.639
later, my brother and I go
down there and like the same thing,

646
00:55:06.800 --> 00:55:13.360
like but all of them were dead
this time, and like Mom, like

647
00:55:14.119 --> 00:55:19.000
there's no like what's normals at a
snake or whatever, almost like don't want

648
00:55:20.400 --> 00:55:22.400
and my grandma goes to that sad, I guess it wasn't the cats.

649
00:55:23.719 --> 00:55:27.840
And I remember like asking the mom, like Mom, like this stuff on

650
00:55:27.920 --> 00:55:30.519
the radio, like you think that's
what it is? Like Lish is like,

651
00:55:30.599 --> 00:55:35.559
no, I don't think that that's
U. But that's like how to

652
00:55:35.639 --> 00:55:38.000
double. It was like, I
don't, I don't know, Like she

653
00:55:38.239 --> 00:55:44.400
was like, can be did I
ever see it? No, because you

654
00:55:44.480 --> 00:55:46.000
know, I didn't live with my
grandmother. It was just the way those

655
00:55:46.079 --> 00:55:54.400
animals die, and how the popularity
of that animal was happening in I just

656
00:55:54.679 --> 00:56:00.559
thought it would be I've been like
tripped in maybe it was a cryptid.

657
00:56:01.199 --> 00:56:06.559
You never knew. I mean,
I would never know, but at the

658
00:56:06.639 --> 00:56:12.480
time, I think deep down and
next all it was when it comes to

659
00:56:12.599 --> 00:56:17.920
cryptids, it's always it's hard to
say yes or no toe something, especially

660
00:56:17.960 --> 00:56:22.199
when you don't see it, because
then you're like, well, you look

661
00:56:22.239 --> 00:56:27.559
for logical explanations to it, and
then when you can rule out all the

662
00:56:27.599 --> 00:56:30.159
logical explanations and you're left, well, okay, well what the hell is

663
00:56:30.199 --> 00:56:36.480
it? And for me, I
don't think I've ever actually said this.

664
00:56:36.639 --> 00:56:39.920
Last year, on my way home
from work, it was about a year

665
00:56:39.920 --> 00:56:44.800
ago now, but I was driving
home at night because I had to work

666
00:56:45.199 --> 00:56:52.079
overnights on a job for some reason, and this animal came across the road

667
00:56:53.559 --> 00:56:57.559
and the way it was moving.
It looked like it was on all fours,

668
00:56:59.639 --> 00:57:01.400
but I don't know what it would
have been because it's really big for

669
00:57:01.440 --> 00:57:05.800
an animal on all fours as of
there's like really low to the ground.

670
00:57:06.960 --> 00:57:13.360
So I've almost wondered if it wasn't
like a badger or like a wolverine type

671
00:57:13.400 --> 00:57:15.239
thing, But I don't know if
we have any of those down here.

672
00:57:15.239 --> 00:57:20.440
I'm sure we could be, but
I've never seen anything like isn't it like

673
00:57:20.880 --> 00:57:27.480
it isn't there something called the dog
man? Yeah, he describes. Yeah,

674
00:57:27.840 --> 00:57:31.039
that's uh, that's what a lot
of people say I saw back in

675
00:57:31.079 --> 00:57:35.800
two thousand and seven. But I
just saw an upright walking canine back then,

676
00:57:36.360 --> 00:57:40.320
So I don't say dog man in
the sense because it looked like a

677
00:57:40.400 --> 00:57:45.440
normal dog, but it didn't have
the human hands or human feet like typical

678
00:57:45.519 --> 00:57:49.159
dog men do. But I saw
a dog standing up on two legs like

679
00:57:49.199 --> 00:57:53.360
a human and walking, So I
can't really explain that one. But this

680
00:57:53.559 --> 00:57:58.320
thing from last this thing from last
year literally looked like a normal animal,

681
00:57:59.639 --> 00:58:04.559
but it was very big. For
it was bigger than a normal awesome or

682
00:58:04.559 --> 00:58:07.400
a raccoon or whatever, bigger than
that, but it wasn't that. If

683
00:58:07.440 --> 00:58:08.679
it was a dog, it was
crawling on it's belly, which was strange,

684
00:58:08.679 --> 00:58:10.719
but it didn't look like a dog
either. I honestly think it was

685
00:58:10.760 --> 00:58:15.320
like a wolverine or a badger or
something like that, because a beaver,

686
00:58:15.679 --> 00:58:19.760
like a big old beaver. Yeah, I don't think it was one of

687
00:58:19.840 --> 00:58:22.360
those either though, because it was
coming out of a cornfield. There'd be

688
00:58:22.400 --> 00:58:28.960
no water sources for a beaver to
be a room. Yeah, yeah,

689
00:58:29.079 --> 00:58:31.519
I just you see strange things at
night time, so you never really know

690
00:58:31.599 --> 00:58:35.360
what it is, especially we only
see a glimpse of it when it runs

691
00:58:35.360 --> 00:58:43.079
across the road. But yeah,
I can only imagine like people who live

692
00:58:43.119 --> 00:58:46.960
out in the world and sort out
in those open roads, like all the

693
00:58:47.239 --> 00:58:52.599
stuff that they can see, they
are there's so many things mm hmm.

694
00:58:53.239 --> 00:58:57.440
And they're coming out like all these
more of the big fliff stories. They're

695
00:58:57.480 --> 00:59:00.719
coming out more and more because people
are moving deep and two points of the

696
00:59:00.760 --> 00:59:06.880
woods, like you're in their terrain, you're and and they're like land now,

697
00:59:07.079 --> 00:59:13.400
so there's more medeos of them out
there. I think a lot of

698
00:59:13.440 --> 00:59:19.079
the taboo is being washed away,
at least with Bigfoot. I know it's

699
00:59:19.119 --> 00:59:22.039
still not really accepted to say you
saw Bigfoot, but I've seen a lot

700
00:59:22.079 --> 00:59:25.159
of stickers of Bigfoot. There's a
lot more people to talk about Bigfoot.

701
00:59:27.480 --> 00:59:31.599
And then mainstream you see obviously Jack
Links has commercials for Bigfoot. There's been

702
00:59:31.679 --> 00:59:37.840
movies, there's Bigfoot's a little more
universally acceptable. I think. I don't

703
00:59:37.880 --> 00:59:42.119
think everyone still believes, but at
the same time, I think that they're

704
00:59:42.159 --> 00:59:44.599
more open to the idea. But
when it comes to some of these other

705
00:59:44.719 --> 00:59:46.199
things, it's still on the woo
woo side. A lot of people are

706
00:59:46.280 --> 00:59:55.480
like, that isn't real. Well, no, I feel there's different yeah,

707
00:59:55.639 --> 01:00:01.079
dimensions and all these that's where they
look a big fit dog and in

708
01:00:01.280 --> 01:00:06.800
walkers, we just come out of
other areas. That is a possibility.

709
01:00:07.480 --> 01:00:12.119
I think, yeah, well,
we can probably wrap this one up if

710
01:00:12.159 --> 01:00:14.880
you're good with it, unless there's
anything else you'd like to talk about.

711
01:00:15.599 --> 01:00:19.760
No, I feel good. I
feel like, you know, I was

712
01:00:19.800 --> 01:00:23.639
pace solid. I probably went on
and on and on, but yeah again,

713
01:00:23.719 --> 01:00:27.559
and like, thank you for having
me, thank you for letting me

714
01:00:27.639 --> 01:00:31.039
share, you know, my experiences
with not just you but your listeners,

715
01:00:31.199 --> 01:00:37.079
and uh, we're all out here
we all, I'm sharing experiences and thank

716
01:00:37.159 --> 01:00:42.440
you for for ryan that swe No, I definitely appreciate you having on tonight

717
01:00:42.559 --> 01:00:47.360
and talking with me. It's been
a pleasure. Yeah, and hopefully with

718
01:00:47.400 --> 01:00:54.280
again have a chat again. I
am going to be investigating a house house

719
01:00:54.360 --> 01:01:02.480
that has never been investigating tetern Santonio. People have moved out and new people

720
01:01:02.519 --> 01:01:07.679
are about to move into in like
two weeks. So I got this weekend

721
01:01:07.480 --> 01:01:16.079
to do an investigation for a residential
home and I'm appreciate I'm gonna get instolid

722
01:01:16.280 --> 01:01:20.960
with peace from that place, and
I have a feeling I might get like

723
01:01:21.159 --> 01:01:25.679
an image or a media or something, just have a feeling. I'll absolutely

724
01:01:25.800 --> 01:01:31.280
be sharing that stuff too. Yeah, definitely let me know. Absolutely.

725
01:01:31.920 --> 01:01:36.840
Thank you well again, I appreciate
you coming on here and talk with me.

726
01:01:37.039 --> 01:01:38.639
It's been a pleasure and I hope
you have a good night. So

727
01:01:40.280 --> 01:01:45.920
we're gonna for anyone listening, we're
rolling out now. So thanks for listening,

728
01:01:45.039 --> 01:01:57.039
and thanks to Christy, and good
night, good night, and that's

729
01:01:57.079 --> 01:02:00.880
a show everyone. I really hope
you guys enjoyed the conversation. If you

730
01:02:00.920 --> 01:02:04.159
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731
01:02:04.199 --> 01:02:07.320
to tenfoil Tales podcast at gmail dot
com or go to the contact section of

732
01:02:07.440 --> 01:02:10.800
tenfoiltales dot com. Just get your
message to me. We'll get some schedule

733
01:02:10.840 --> 01:02:15.360
for a future episode. And just
remember the truth lies, and the stories

734
01:02:15.400 --> 01:02:19.280
we share, the connections we make. Stay curiously open minded. Thank you

735
01:02:19.360 --> 01:02:22.639
all for joining us on this journey. And until next time, keep questioning,

736
01:02:22.880 --> 01:02:25.159
keep seeking, and keep exploring the
unknown. Good night, everyone seems

737
01:02:25.159 --> 01:02:30.960
on sales and the headphones. Yeah, it's turns rock. Got a story

738
01:02:30.960 --> 01:02:36.119
about a crypty creature. Let's take
a walk, bigfoot, some theer.

739
01:02:37.039 --> 01:02:42.000
They're out there in the talk,
but the truth is out there likingly as

740
01:02:42.159 --> 01:02:50.679
fuck. UFO signings got the whole
world shock conspiracies on phones like a story

741
01:02:50.760 --> 01:02:59.840
in the book Me console sign a
kid, it's all gonna use them aline

742
01:03:00.079 --> 01:03:07.599
in history. They don't want us
to know the secrets that hide, since

743
01:03:07.679 --> 01:03:17.599
they will show JNNA society. They
keep us in chase, but then in

744
01:03:17.760 --> 01:03:43.639
time it's time to break the reins
control trying to keep us fine, but

745
01:03:43.880 --> 01:03:51.199
I won't. People are gonna use
a mind in history. They don't want

746
01:03:51.320 --> 01:04:00.719
us to know the secrets that hide. Since they will show Zna Society thank

747
01:04:00.800 --> 01:04:10.559
you for s and change, but
said it talk this time to break the reins h

