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wanted their own right gravitation. I'm
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with Anaplast. You have a test
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thirty one. Roger Travi here white
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area is thirty one. Continue to
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Travick broaking head on alder right and
really moving right now. There are

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one thousand UFO sightings reported around the
world every month. Ninety percent of these

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sightings can be explained, but ten
percent cannot. Officially and unofficially, the

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US military has been investigating the UFOs
since nineteen forty seven. Their top secret

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goal is to fin out what's behind
these unexplained sightings. The Pentagon classifies them

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as unusual airborne anomalies, but a
better term is X files. Join us

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now as Mac one one and Commander
Cobra explore these unsolved cases UFO incidents that

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baffle even the US military. This
is macmuloney's Military X Files. And now

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here's Mac maloney. Well, good
evening one and welcome Macloney's Million Tracks show

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here on the Distance on the radio
network. This is mc maloney. Well,

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what a show we have for you
tonight. But first, girls,

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get ready, sit yourselves down,
stop fanning yourselves, get your big waxa

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clan and said big Mixa wipes to
squeegee and you lou because he's here,

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very famous one one woman, Hey
Mac, Hello, everybody. Hello,

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girls, welcome to the show.
It's going to be a good show,

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very good show tonight. You're glad
to be here and lifted this. You

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told us that. So now this
is the ninth week in a row.

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When's the last time you had fish
and chips. I've had chips a lot,

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but no fish. It's so weird
because I just I don't know you

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Pick, I told I Lean,
I said, we're overdue for some some

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fish and one of the good restaurants
in town. You know, you're you're

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you're leaning to the unhealthy part of
the the equation, right, because fish

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is very healthy. It's just we
just haven't we like to go out and

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have fish and chips. You already
take away the takeaway shops just don't do

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it for us. Oh really,
yeah, huh yeah. It's just because

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it's a different style. It's more
it's more portable. Okay, that's that's

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the the allure of it. But
you can eat it on your lap,

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you know lap that's on your lap
outside, and you know the seagulls hover

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around you. That happened to me
one times, are hovering around and then

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I got pooped on on my that's
good luck my jacket. Okay, very

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quickly, very very quickly, because
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A long time ago, Lois and
I were going into a movie. It

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was very very cold out, and
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the movie, but I don't want
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two cents worth of popcorn. It
just I can't enjoy it. So we

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went to the store ahead of time, and I bought one of those enormous

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bags of cheese popcorn for ninety nine
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So we're walking in in some candy
bags. We're walking in and I and

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I put it under my jacket,
but it looks like wow. Right,

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So now we're walking in and I
say well, I'll break it open to

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let the ear out, to compress
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So I did that, but when
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I'm just going this is the cinemagic
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at Salisbury. Just I'm going in
the door. It explodes, right,

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and these seagulls come down and stud
eating and all was like a see from

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the birds. Oh like five seconds
everyone saw me auckland and embarrassing. Anyway,

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thank you one one for joining us
tonight. Well I'm glad I triggered

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that memory of that memory. Yeah
right, yeah, okay, two years

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of therapy get me over that.
Anyway. A national correspondent this year switch

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played Steve Watt switchy. Great to
be here in ladies. Who can keep

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fanning yourself if you want it?
Yeah, yeah, you're better. Don't

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stop. Right, So let's look
at the hair. Ah, he's got

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the jelly roll thing happening. He's
actually showing you to us. It was

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just a bed science. Okay,
look look, Mack, I get out

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of the shower and I comb it
and it just you know, it's like

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it is what it is. That's
good. It does look like a low

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maintenance garstop, which is good low
maintenance but changing ever changing, Yeah,

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like the seasons. Okay, thank
you, So don't knock it. It

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looks good. I'm not knocking it, but the next person might. I'm

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going to get a hair one of
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needed up tall. This also with
US is security chief wille klok w C.

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How are you? You know?
Like everyone else, it's I'm just

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very happy to be here to night. Yes, yes, And first of

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all I have to address obviously he
made a comment about his low maintenance thing

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and I've seen those you know they
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here pieces, right, yeah,
just put them on forget about it.

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It's real. I mean, uh, it's amazing. But but anyways,

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you know, I'm not going to
pick on on switch. You know,

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I've just been jumping too much on
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one because he made a comment about
eating food on his lap. I don't

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know about you. I'm not double
joining Italy. Bring your head all the

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way down, how do you belong? And done the lap? The lap

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is your table and then you elevate
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Okay, we got that. If
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Now, it's okay, nice takeaway
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you're not funny, and it's yes, you're not pay right. I've

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seen movies like that anyway. I
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I like dining out once in my
lap with we could just we could

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turn that into a bumper in of
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the studio? Is that one now
though? You pull mechanic? Oh Mac?

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Hello? Everyone? Well, yeah, I don't know. I've got

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a bad visual of the eating yeah, me, so everyone does. Of

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course. Luckily we were a radio
show. What the popcorn in your lap?

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Exactly? In the dark? Yeah, yeah, okay, uh,

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I was gonna say something funny about
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down the moose ahead of time,
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you can tell anyway, everything okay
with you? And the bees? Yell,

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well we'll find out. Yeah,
I'm fine. But the bees,

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you know, we go to middle
next week. It's supposed to get in

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the fifties, and if they're flying
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come out. How many people in
the how how many people? How many

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bees? In the hive right now
sleeping. There's probably four thousand, five

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thousand in each hive here? Can
you hear them storming? You on me?

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Nothing? And you don't bother them
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you allow the cold air in the
bad idea, right, that's a bad

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idea. But yeah, and because
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in the spring. It's one hundred
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so it gets expensive, especially you're
not getting any honey. Well, don't

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die. Yeah, last year I
got minimal honey honey the bees on I

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could have bought the honey at ten
dollars a pound and i'd have access.

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I'd be pissed off. What are
they loafing on the jog? That was

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a horrible year last year. It
rained so much, oh okay that the

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flowers just all apallen. The nectar
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it was a real last year was
a terrible year for bees. You're listening

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to be time on TV. Bee
talk and be talk right, okay?

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Also with us is a favorite good
witch up there and sideways in the eye

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Rave Raven, how are you tonight? Raven? Hello, my friends.

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I'm doing great things for having me. Hello. Hello, they pick paint

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the picture, so you get it
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What do you do with that?
It's not I don't are they baseball?

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Yes? This is a I don't
know what happen. This is somebody

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sent it to me. It has
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don't know, like a little thing
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Okay, that's good for free.
I don't know. Is it a

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get the celebrity glass up here?
Uh? Celebrity glasses drinking something and a

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yellow case drinking a cannabis infused sparkling
water. So I may get no raven.

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That hat reminds me of like a
bee, you know when I look

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at it, you know, like
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it? Bumblebee? Well, but
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so it's really good. So what's
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I actually got this at a thrift
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like, I was Costello and I
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don't let him know. Yeah,
interesting guy. I know people close to

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big, big fans of him.
I never got it. I just never

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you know, not all people get
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never got him, you know what
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He can't sing anyway, like them
Els Costello and the Attractions. A few

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days, I'm right for that punk
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you know, twenty years later doing
the albums with burd back racking, you

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know, don't like you know,
iced to pay full? Yeah? Uh?

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What's his wife's name? Though?
His wife is kind of attractive.

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She's a blues she's kinda she's she's
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Oh really Yeah. In the meantime, hey, listen right, yeah,

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talking about hot chicks. She's good
down there in South North Carolina is

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the hot line with the clovette.
Susan, Kay, how are you doing

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tonight? Susan? I am doing
well. Thank you so much for having

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me. How's everybody else doing?
Susan? You look a glow? Are

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you a glow tonight? Just because
I'm here? Really? Okay? Imagine

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all living in a house like you
know what they call that, yeah,

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like big brother, all in the
house fighting each other and stuff, throwing,

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throwing, drinks on each other's faces
and stuff. Anyway, tonight we

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have quite a show a mune Yeah, yeah, no, I'm thinking of

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South Beach. What was the name
of the thing with the with the with

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the five dudes from New Jersey?
Jersey? Sure, Jersey shure, Yeah,

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we do Jersey. Sure. Maybe. Anyway, we hopefully have an

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interesting show tonight. Well, when
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or so. Her name is Irena, and she's going to talk to us

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about the Pascal Gula abductions. Is
that right? Switchy? Did I pronounce

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that right? Yeahola, Mississippi?
Right yeah. Charles Hickson in Calvin Parker

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something October nineteen seventy three, something
about this particular abduction has just has stayed

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around with us. It's got the
attention of a lot of people. A

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lot of like research has been done
into a lot of different theories. It's

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really crazy. These aren't These are
the people who look like carrots. It

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looks like like aluminum robots, aluminum
robots. I read the book by Charles

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Hickson, and I think Mendez or
Menendez, And there was a part in

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there where supposedly when they were inside
through a partition in a window, they

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saw entities that looked more human,
and I didn't know that. It's implying

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that these androids or whatever they were, were something that they controlled something a

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mile since I looked at that like
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heard people kind of suggest that as
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think the implication was that the the
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they were using these I don't know
robots to collect the human specimens. Well,

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I was trouble when that happens.
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there's a weird thing about it was
a lot of other people didn't see

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anything. It's almost like it was
cloak somehow. But there's really a kind

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of an interesting follow up to this
too, where it was it, oh

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gosh, what's that guy's name,
Rex Trail, famous with all researcher.

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He believed that Hickson was a repeater
and he was. He had several other

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sidings afterwards. It'll be interesting what
this lady says about the case repeater.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, And
she's from England, so I think she

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has a different point of view on
it, and so and and we're also

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gonna have a report from club about
this new like Russian threat, but they

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have a secret nuclear weapon. They're
gonna put it in his base. They're

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gonna balls up at any moment.
That's interesting and also hopefully club I mean

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yet club. Sorry, sorry I
missed you up the club would switch switch

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will also be talking to us about
what do you talk about tonight, switchy.

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I'm sure he feels good about that. He does. Oh, switch

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is looking up what his topic is? What are you talking about tonight,

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Switchy? Oh? The the alleged
secret diary of Admiral Berg? Oh right,

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yeah, the guy went, it's
all right. But before we do

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that, listen, we get a
number of lists tonight. And I don't

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know where this came from from.
Fans have been writing into us for about

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three or four months, and we
announced a couple of weeks ago there was

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starting a rock band, was starting
a band. I was gonna be on

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druma sorry all it's about all.
I'm good for her. Yeah. You

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know, you know what they call
guys who hang around musicians dramas. I've

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been called worse because you know,
my one's gonna be playing guitar, switching

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on the keyboards, and there's jokes
in there. I can't go on.

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But anyway, so we need a
name though, before we win the studio,

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we need a name. I played
a bandjo Yeah, yeah, you

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are the lead singer there due deliverance
in the background. If you want them

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raven, we'll be on you know, vocal. Okay, So anyway,

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but we need a name before we
can get contracts. So it turns out

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that Susan K has Top ten names. So the Gang's new rock band?

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Please tell me you got it,
Susan, Yeah, it right here,

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I'm right, okay, here we
go. I guess we'll start some music

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this Top ten names. We've done
this in the past. I don't know

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what we're doing in again. Top
ten names for the band's new So the

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Gang's new rock band please number ten, Susan, number ten, one one

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and the one ones featuring one one
right, because i'd have to talk on

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it. No, yeah, I'm
not gonna I'm not gonna get kick the

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box. I'll comment, okay,
Number nine please, the Dead Winston's is

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not the name of your hedgehog.
I get I get it. But yeah,

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well okay, next, hey,
im right. Pieces, Fish and

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the Chips, Fish and the chips, right. I like that one.

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Yeah, you should trademark that one
TM so that no one can steal it.

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I like Fish and the Chippies.
Fishing the Chippies is another interpretation.

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Next please all right. Number seven
Raven Buns and Her Ironic Zombies. Yeah,

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we're talking with a z in her
Running Zombies had by the album Raven

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Raven Fun Buns and Her iron The
Ironic Zombies are moronicies. That's the second

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album. Next please, So these
are top ten names for the Gang's new

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rock band. Number six, Little
Switch and the Mocks. I think that's

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cute. Hang on, hang on, sorry, Switchy switching the moths switch

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Little Switch in the Moths like Little
Steven. Okay, next please, Susan.

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Number five, Bob and the Undead. That's a good one. The

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Ghost I would see him not one
too, Okay, let's move on before

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he eats. He's Number four,
Big Mac and the Cardio and Faction.

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I get it. Yeah, but
I see a lawsuit in that be Mac

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in the heart attack. There would
be in the round, Boss. Just

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switch it up a little, that's
all. Next, Susan, all right.

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Number three Uncle Al and his Dirty
Bees. I like next let's get

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a Killer Bees. Killer Bees would
be better, Susan. Please? All

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right? So's my favorite Grandmaster Club
and blunt Force Trauma. Yeah, and

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the number one name for the gang's
new rock band, Cat Poison, No

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man, can I can I add
one that displace would be appropriate? Number

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eleven? Yep? How about switching
in the mop heads? Yeah? Yeah,

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okay, all right, switch get
out laughing and you're laughing inside.

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I'm laughing inside. Well, thank
you Susan for that. Luckily you can

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get a speeding ticket to be on
the show tonight. But why don't we

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do this, Why don't we take
a crush breakdown, really regroup early,

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you know, listening to Macloney's mull
Time show here in the distance the radio

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network the whole Gangs. Yeah,
we'll be right back. Hey, Mac

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Malone fans, this is Pistol Pete
and I'm sitting here with the one and

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only Mac Maloney. Hi, Mac
hipee. Now, Mac, you've got

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a new book out called How to
Dump a Body at Sea and Not Get

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Caught that you wrote with our pal, famous crime novelist Mark Zappula. How

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did this whole thing come about?
Well, Mac and I have this mutual

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friend that we would go out having
beers with every once in a while,

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and he had the same twenty stories
that he would tell us kind of over

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and over again. And at some
point I said, you know, we

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should write these down, and we
did and it turned into a book.

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It's such a crazy title. How'd
you come up with it? Well,

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kind of the same thing. We're
in talking to this friend of oz one

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night and he just said, you
know, how to get rid of a

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body at sea? And I cant
taught, And of course we didn't know,

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and so he told us. And
the secret is in the book.

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But I can say that it involves
a lot of chainling fence and some crabs.

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Now, Mac, you gave me
an advanced copy of the book,

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and like I said before, it's
one of the funniest things I've ever read.

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It reminded me of the Sopranos if
the Sopranos had a laugh track.

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Thanks Pete. But it also it
gives you instructions on how to do some

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pretty shady stuff, stuff not exactly
legal. Well, yeah, the book

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is about the true life adventures of
a dreuvenile de Linklin grown up in Boston

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in the late nineteen eighties. So
you get a lot of the inside stuff

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like the best way to steal a
CA, best way to burn ACA,

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how to make fake ideas, things
like that. But in one chapter you

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actually tell people how to turn an
old, broken down Toyota into a brand

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new Rolls Royce in five easy steps
and it actually works. Yeah. I

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know it sounds crazy. I didn't
believe it until I saw the proof,

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but yes, it actually works.
Now, one last question. There's a

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lot of laughs in the book,
but also a lot of pretty crazy stuff,

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legal and illegal. Is it really
all true? It's really all true,

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but on the advice of a publisher, they've asked us not the same

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thing beyond that for legal reason.
But yes, it is all true.

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Well thanks Mac. That's how to
dump a body at sea and not get

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caught. The Al Ferrari story by
Mac and crime writer Mark Zippula. Today

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on Amazon, Welcome back and went
to Macloney's milk Trak Saw show here on

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the Distance under Radio network. This
is macloney Clow. What a show this

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already is here tonight. Let me
introduce the members of the posse. A

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lot of people here have big posse. Tonight, girls he's here one one

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over across the puddle. Funny,
Hello maclot girls, Hello, everybody,

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welcome to the show. It's gonna
be a fun one tonight. It's fun

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already fun on ready right, that's
the tattoo. Also with us, he's

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doing his exercises right now. Wow, he's dressed like that linebacker for the

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Pats with Juden with the with the
red sleeves on the top of the blue.

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He didn't even know it is respond
switch place? What's up about football?

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Switch? How's how's how's the switch
tonight? Okay? Pretty good?

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Little stiff back here? What's that
mean he's putting to his back of his

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neck the folks in case? Yeah, okay, all right, thank you.

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Why is there a knife back there
you can't reach? Is that what

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you mean? Anyway? Also with
us is our security chief, Willie club

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throw. You could be here again
tonight and looking forward to whatever the upcoming

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situation rights? We yes, right, you're all dressed in white tonight.

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How come just a coincidence? I
don't know, I just you know some

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I get ready, I get in
the food before the shelf, really,

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and I'll sit in the room and
I'll shut all the lights off, and

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I'll talk to myself and then I'll
figure out then and it just comes to

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me. What do we Yeah?
Interesting, listen, I just got to

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ask you have pants on? By
the way, pants on? Yes?

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Just my speed? Oh I don't
have pants on? Zoom prove it,

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hang on, relax, relax?
Also with us is uh can't our now

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though? In the studio? Hi
everybody? And yes I do have pants

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on? Yes, Yes, that's
been it. We're in the studios.

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Sorry here we had to drive here, have to wear pants? Uh?

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So anyway, al house things with
you do? We always talk to you

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how the bees that have the bees
are fine and you know they're they're tucked

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away from the winter hopefully and like
I said, within the next week it's

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supposed to get in the fifties.
And yes, maybe they'll be out and

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I'll be able to take we can
guess. Can we give you a honey

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away as prizes on the show?
What's you have problem with with you can't

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sell it to the public. Well, I don't sell it. I mean

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I just don't give it away.
I give it away. But the problem

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you would run into is sending it
in a some liabilities there I mean,

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yeah, a lot to send in
a million right, well, I mean

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it would be expensive to send it. I think they ask you when you

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go to the post office. Is
there anything breakable? Is everything? That?

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Always? What a mess A pound
of honey would bet out, you

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know, but definitely the best honey
I've ever had before ever has a little

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bit of a sweetness to it and
a little bit of a kind of a

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weed taste to it. That is
in thank you, Alfa Johnnie, I

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said, oh, hey, glad
to be here. You know. It's

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uh, it's just one of those
things. Also with us, one of

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those things. Wow. Also with
us is a favorite good witch up there

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in star ways Raven. How are
you tonight? Raved? Oh, my

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friends, I'm doing good things for
having me. I know you're just bursting

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with excitement. You have a big
announcement. We're going to get to it

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very soon. Okay, okay,
sure, can you contain meself? I

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think I can? Yeah. Hm. Also with us, why should do

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this because it sounds funny. Luckily
we have a doctor with us tonight,

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doctor Bob Gross. Let's clap him
man only because he's from Chicago and those

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people. Doctor Bob, how are
you doing hello man. Hell, everyone's

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great to be here, great to
be alive, great to be alive,

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pants on so great to have pants
on. I agree with you on both

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counts. I should tell everybody that
off air the girls were talking about how

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doctor bub look said the movie star
the girls in hal I think the three

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of them one time, right right. I don't know if I was involved

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in me. Okay, you have
that movie. Look, man, you

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should put out your headshot to the
one day I Shower? Oh is the

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name of you bo biography? Also
with us? Although also with us?

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Is we know he has the hot
lines in the corvette? Susan? Okay,

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super fan, how you doing?
Susan? This is you know we

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have to clap for her too,
because it wouldn't you so nice to be

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here. Thank you so much for
having me make my week, my month?

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Really okay? All right, right, good good dear. So listen,

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we're we have we have a guest
coming up hopefully at seven o'clive from

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England calling him very late. What
time is it there right now? One

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one? It is? Well,
it's five five hours sooner than it is

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over there. Okay, so we've
been more confused. What time is it

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there, it's eleven nine. Okay, I'm gonna say the over rundo is

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fifty to fifty if I guess makes
it. Okay, just got a feeling

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she's already asleep, but let's see
what happens. She's gonna talk about the

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Pastoula abductions, very very famous abduction
case. That's near a Navy base,

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right, switchy. I believe it
is, but I don't recall what the

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base is. Yeah, my uncle
worked for the people who made aircraft,

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have made submarines United was inned boat
no general dynamic electric boat, electric boat.

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He told me. When she says
when I die, and I know

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I'm not going to hell because I've
been to basket cooler anyway. So listen.

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So club actually has some fan letters. We've been going over the late

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latest fan letters. Club had to
sanitize them thirty days and now we have

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I think a half a dozen that
are appropriate enough to present to the listening

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audience. Is that right, club? How's that for the well when you

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use the term appropriate enough, okay, because I'll tell you even had to

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spray them with disinfection and uh and
they were emails. You're going to give

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it a try here. I'm staying
far away from them a little bit,

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printed them out and the paper just
anyways. But I'm excited about it,

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so we'll we'll get it done.
To's just start some music, some appropriate

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music, please, the latest fan
letters that were cleared by club. Please

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club cleared by club? Oh boy, Well that's throwing me under the bus,

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isn't it? Not yet? I
just hope it's moving. It's early.

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What we'll call this, you know, sort of one one's night.

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Let's see, we'll should I should
I begin at this point? Yes?

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Please talk? Okay? The first
email is addressed DM mac in gang.

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Is it just me? Or does
anyone else? You've a flying fuck that

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one? One lives in jolly old
England, Big woop, as the kids

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say, the place is full of
fags. That's what they call cigarettes now

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over there true and their favorite the
dirt is spotted dish. Come on,

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So one one eats fish and chips. O the fuck? What I eat

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fish and chips? Where's my goddamn
fly over? They also eat mice,

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but that's another shell. The only
food I want to hear you that he's

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talking about is throwing one one into
a vat of Boiling one one one,

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Tom Sopp, he's out, sim
Switches cat Heel. Yes, even God,

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you need a doctor, Bobby,
you like a psychiatrist and you like

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analyzing. I'd like to meet that
person. No, I wouldn't, Okay,

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you like I just would. Anyways, I'm a guy in the colleges.

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The best part about that is I'm
not mentioned in it, and neither

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of most of us. Stay tuned. Please the show over. Don't stop

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now. I got the stench out
of that one. You're ready for number

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two? Yes? Please? Hi, gang and especially club who this letter

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is for. We live in high
desert in California. Get your show on

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iHeart Radio. But sometime it freezes
up, usually when you guys are laughing,

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you off, behind off. We
miss things and it's impossible to rewrhyme.

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So here's our question. On the
recent show about movies. Did clubs

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say he was once in a porn
movie? And I must address that.

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I must admit I was not in
a porn movie, but when I was

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a teenager, there were times I
felt that I was. I lived in

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one. Okay, but anyways,
Debbie does debuty. Okay, that's a

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no from the club. That's a
no no. But anyways, I want

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to give credit to the the authors
of that. And that's a missed Dick

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and Mistress Jane stupid video skidoo California. A lot of places out there,

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as you know, JE specialize on
that, right there. Wow man,

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all right, well we'll move on
to victory. It's if this ever gets

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on the go ahead club. Please. I want to leep you. I

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want to bleep you and bleep all
over your bleep whist my staff watches.

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Hah. Did you get my teddy
bear signed all man? Andy? Oh

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boy, yes, please tell one
one to stop writing me ins fight with

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everyone might think I don't know Lily
James contact info nor her brass eyes.

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That's the second one. One.
Have all my teddy Bears forwarded by the

404
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postal service, so I requested not
to receive them. Look for from all

405
00:32:54,480 --> 00:33:05,000
men Andy. Uhha, Well we're
really moving ahead now. Okay, please

406
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:10,200
here's another one. Be a gang
of idiots. Did it ever occurred to

407
00:33:10,279 --> 00:33:16,200
you that Switchy is balled for a
reason, Like some reason Lex Luthor is

408
00:33:16,279 --> 00:33:23,079
balled or Bain or Alpha Man or
trigger Boy from Universe two D. Switchy

409
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:29,160
is obviously a super villain and his
rug is part of his disguise, you

410
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:34,240
dolts. He's going to take over
the world. But I think I know

411
00:33:34,359 --> 00:33:38,440
a way to stop him and save
humanity. If you would have Vemo,

412
00:33:39,079 --> 00:33:45,680
I'll share it with you. In
the meantime, Man up, you average

413
00:33:45,759 --> 00:33:53,519
height idiots. Keep your heads out
of the clouds in the NBA games.

414
00:33:54,680 --> 00:34:07,480
Signed Peter Robbins. That's very please, Bob, you are all right.

415
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:16,400
Might have to read them. God
please next, as they say when you're

416
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:21,760
walking through hell, don't stop go
please all right, Switchy, here's another

417
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:27,000
one. Hello. I'm wanting to
thank Switchy for responding to my ad on

418
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:34,960
Moscow Craigslist. I am a divorcee
and former government worker. My dream is

419
00:34:35,039 --> 00:34:39,119
to hunt mooks and squirrel with you
in the woods of West Virginia. Steve

420
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:46,719
Squirrel, my Bopka make me dream
come true. Forward price of plane tickets

421
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:52,199
from Russia to America. There are
two of them. That's including my boss

422
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:59,840
Boris, who wants to pull water
from mort Man's ass. Signing this Natasha

423
00:35:00,039 --> 00:35:06,000
of course, Switchy, come on, you're learn to girl with moose and

424
00:35:06,039 --> 00:35:08,239
squirrel. That's good. That's old
school, buddy like that. Yeah,

425
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:15,599
I thought they would get Remember Chauncey
and Edgar. The two guys would sit

426
00:35:15,679 --> 00:35:19,239
on the park bench and they'd say, now there's something you don't see every

427
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,159
day. Chauncey, what's that?
Edgar? And they say, you know,

428
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:28,440
Moose from the Squirrel doing whatever.
Okay, don't remember it might be

429
00:35:28,519 --> 00:35:30,480
before my time. I don't stop. Was this was this in the Rocky

430
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:36,800
and Bull Show? Describe something they
were doing and they say, oh,

431
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,559
I don't know, I see it
every day on the Rocky Show. It's

432
00:35:38,559 --> 00:35:42,840
a bit. That's another thing.
And it was a lot of funnier if

433
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:47,000
you remember it. If if people
people really probably don't remember what time,

434
00:35:47,079 --> 00:35:50,639
But Raven, do you know what
we're talking about? Rocky and Bulllong,

435
00:35:51,039 --> 00:35:54,159
Rocky and Bullwinkel, Rocky and Bowling. Of course, do you Susan?

436
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:59,400
Do you know, Susan? Do
you remember show? Yeah? I used

437
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:05,119
the what and then one yeah,
yeah, yeah, just funny. These

438
00:36:05,199 --> 00:36:08,199
cartunes you can't discome other than they
would appeal to kids on one level,

439
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:13,119
but they were appeal to adults on
the other. There's like these kind of

440
00:36:13,159 --> 00:36:16,320
like double on punges and kind of
inside jokes. They were hilarious. The

441
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:21,880
Ryan Man when'd you figure out what's
going on? It's unbelievably funny. Do

442
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:27,880
you remember one of their Yeah,
one of their big gigs or gags was

443
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:32,440
if you put on the the Derwood
Kirby Kurwood Derby, you became the smartest

444
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:38,360
man on earth, the Kurwood Derby. And there was a guy named Derwood

445
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:44,599
Kirby who they were making fun of. Yeah, because he's the stupidest guy,

446
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,719
right, So they were constantly busting
this guy and he was going to

447
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:52,239
sue them because they were making fun
of him. So they ended up instead

448
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:57,320
of being Kirkwood Derby whatever, they
would go to Kurwood Derby and stef Right.

449
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,800
Yes, he couldn't sue them because
he who was the was the he

450
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:06,239
was the second banana for who like
Gary Moore? Okay, yeah, yeah,

451
00:37:06,519 --> 00:37:09,360
the name of anyway? Yeah yeah. That was a funny, funny,

452
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:14,000
freaking show. And just if we're
gonna tell stories, So the guy

453
00:37:14,119 --> 00:37:17,360
who who did that show, he
was a really crazy guy. He would

454
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:21,400
appear sometimes in the cartoons. But
he used to go in the office and

455
00:37:21,519 --> 00:37:24,280
you have like a Napoleon hat on. I forget his name, but his

456
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:28,599
name appeared in the credits a lot. So anyway, so that show had

457
00:37:28,679 --> 00:37:32,119
just started out. He's driving the
country in the first win a bagel ever

458
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:36,760
made. This guy bought it.
I think his name is Gaines. I'm

459
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,199
not sure. The publicity stunt is
he's going to pull up to the gates

460
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:44,800
of the White House and try to
get publicity, try to get into the

461
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:50,440
White House to publicize rocking Bullwinkle.
Right, he does that, He's surrounded

462
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,880
by guns. He does it on
the day Jeff k got shot. Yeah,

463
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:59,559
imagine anyway, Oh please do we
have? How many more do we

464
00:37:59,639 --> 00:38:02,639
have? Oh? Thankfulness, we're
on our last one? Okay, Well,

465
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,760
by the way, my favorite on
there was Dudley do right. Oh

466
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:12,960
yeah, he's right, yeah,
no, yeah, now I had to

467
00:38:13,039 --> 00:38:15,360
think about the theme song for that
bit was great, very cool, yeah,

468
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:20,599
very fairy tales are pretty good too. Yeah. Hans Conried, Yeah,

469
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,599
I just saw the movie The The
Creature that Challenged the Earth, and

470
00:38:23,639 --> 00:38:28,559
there's about a big octopost in the
Salton Sea in California, and Hans Conried

471
00:38:29,559 --> 00:38:32,480
was the yea was a scientist,
yeah right, yeah, yeah. He

472
00:38:32,599 --> 00:38:36,559
was a voice in a lot of
those yeah right, yeah, yeah,

473
00:38:37,519 --> 00:38:42,320
yeah. He had very distinctive voice
for a voice please? Uh, club

474
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,880
the last one? All right?
If I have to, I will,

475
00:38:45,039 --> 00:38:51,559
That's okay. But dear Mac,
you said on a recent show that you

476
00:38:51,639 --> 00:38:55,639
don't get any email. That's not
true. I write you all the time.

477
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,800
You just never reply in the stuff
big shot radio staff and author.

478
00:39:02,599 --> 00:39:07,360
Oh such a funny word. Author. Just remember, kid, I knew

479
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:15,159
you when you couldn't even say it. Never mind spell, Yeah, don't

480
00:39:15,199 --> 00:39:21,760
mind me. I'm just reading again. So get your haircut, scrub your

481
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:28,519
teeth. Dude, are you using
that ointment I sent you? Love?

482
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:32,960
Mom? Oh Mom, she's in
touch. Did I hear clubs in a

483
00:39:34,079 --> 00:39:39,480
movie? We all got zinc tonight? Wow? Hey, I came out

484
00:39:39,519 --> 00:39:45,719
of that pretty anyway. Are you
sure you didn't write these? I don't

485
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,239
know how to write. We don't
know. No one does, as it

486
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,400
turns out, Why don't we take
a quessure right now? That way I'll

487
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,119
be it'd be easier to edit the
whole place, the whole thing out of

488
00:39:54,159 --> 00:39:58,719
the show. Okay, So to
go put some deodor in? Yeah,

489
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:15,280
yeah, here me both. Why
don't we do oh my squader when we

490
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:27,079
need them? Okay, let's can't
do it. Let's sake let's take our

491
00:40:27,119 --> 00:40:30,239
commercial break. One one, please
lead us send it the commercial please you

492
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:35,639
only who laughing. Let's take a
commercial break now. We'll be back right

493
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:43,840
after this message from our ultimate sponsor. This is a mac maloney's comedy hour

494
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:57,599
here Thunder Radio Network. Please stand
by. And I just kept going on

495
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,880
and on about myself. I'm taking
a leak in the driveway. Just I

496
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:05,280
know you'd like to talk to total
stranger. The story has got nothing to

497
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,599
do with the Bruins gain, It's
what happened with Grandma. I was wondering

498
00:41:07,639 --> 00:41:14,760
if those were sadow messacres of straps
or something. But I digress from what

499
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,840
I don't know. Get into the
beautiful mind of wand one only on the

500
00:41:17,920 --> 00:42:01,519
mac Maloney Military X File show.
Welcome ck if we went to mac Malauney's

501
00:42:01,519 --> 00:42:05,199
mil track saw show here at the
District out of radio network. This is

502
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,800
mac Maloney. What a show we
have for you tonight. The funny thing

503
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:13,480
is a lot of it is happening
off stage, but that's another show.

504
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,239
Girls. He's here tonight, the
very famous wan One, the only one

505
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:22,039
that we know is across the puddle
money. That's right. I'm in the

506
00:42:22,199 --> 00:42:25,280
UK. Definitely, And it's cool
right now. Glad to be here,

507
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:29,400
Glad to be anywhere as a matter
of fact. And went's to the show,

508
00:42:29,559 --> 00:42:31,000
Ladies and gentlemen and all ships at
sea. You were in the salt

509
00:42:31,079 --> 00:42:35,920
of England right where it's warm all
the time, warm and sunny. We're

510
00:42:37,119 --> 00:42:39,760
well, I'm on the south coast. Go ahead. I could see the

511
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:45,000
Isle of Wight from my house.
Yes, okay, which is very nice.

512
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:49,320
Yes, but don't you get warma
weather than the most of the Yeah,

513
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:53,960
I'm in you know, the fifties. It's been the mid to upper

514
00:42:54,039 --> 00:43:01,039
fifties. At times it's like fifteen
celsia. Really, don't don't confuse us

515
00:43:01,079 --> 00:43:04,599
with that stuff, all that crap. I have to say, Alexa,

516
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:08,400
what's fifteen celsius in fahrenheit? She
didn't know. Okay, anyway, thank

517
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:15,320
you. Well also with us is
actually corresponded, switch lad Steve Wan switchy.

518
00:43:16,599 --> 00:43:20,199
Great to be here, trying to
keep up the energy. Everything okay

519
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,039
with you, everything is beyond wonderful. Please tell me that you had something

520
00:43:23,079 --> 00:43:27,400
really good for breakfast, and I
just to kind of rescue the show at

521
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,079
this point, I had something pretty
good. You want me to tell you

522
00:43:30,119 --> 00:43:32,000
what he is doing. Let's introduce
everyone else here and then we'll go back

523
00:43:32,039 --> 00:43:35,639
to you. Okay, okay,
all right, all right, dude,

524
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:42,239
did they our security chief, Willie
Club is with us. Willy Okay,

525
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,920
Hi everyone. It's uh great to
be here, I must say. And

526
00:43:46,039 --> 00:43:51,639
I can't wait to hear about switches
breakfast, I've been okay, pins and

527
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,599
needles. We have a number of
announcements. He's dressed in white and he

528
00:43:53,639 --> 00:43:57,679
looks like a bishop, but he's
in that bishop kind of looking mode,

529
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,960
you know. There he goes right
hopefully the side of the cross. He

530
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:06,559
looks like a vicar. A vicar
is the word I was shouting. Also,

531
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:13,880
what language? Also with us?
Is our favorite good bitch out there

532
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,599
and sideways in the eye. How
she stays with us, we don't know.

533
00:44:19,119 --> 00:44:22,119
Raven, Hi, my friends,
thank you so much for having me

534
00:44:22,559 --> 00:44:27,159
the rose among Thawns. Oh are
you raving tonight? I'm good, I'm

535
00:44:27,199 --> 00:44:29,880
good. And what are you drinking? Just tell us we don't care.

536
00:44:30,119 --> 00:44:37,599
It's drink already. I'm drunk already. Well, not a bad sign,

537
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:47,920
spill it. It's just it's really
funny. I don't tell you what kind

538
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:52,480
of night man? Wow, I
gotta come. It's a drink that she's

539
00:44:52,559 --> 00:44:57,840
drunk. Now she's drunk, go
figure, drink drank, drunk, drink

540
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:04,760
drink drunk. Conjugate that. Also
also with us is super Fie Susan.

541
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,760
Kay, Susan, how are you
to? And I also knows I check

542
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:13,039
him in the co Vett. What
year is the Covet? Two thousand and

543
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,079
four, two thousand and four.
Yeah, yeah, okay, nice,

544
00:45:16,119 --> 00:45:20,440
I can picture it. How are
you tonight? House? Things down there

545
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,400
in North Carolina that he can tell
us about it? Yeah, okay,

546
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:28,920
nice, it's been nice weather.
We haven't had any snow. It snowed,

547
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,199
but like ten minutes, we haven't
had any snow. Susan is originally

548
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:37,599
from Boston. We haven't had any
kind of a snowfall here in three years

549
00:45:37,039 --> 00:45:42,519
over five inches if you can imagine
that. So anyway, also with us

550
00:45:42,559 --> 00:45:45,360
talk about snow and cold, Doctor
Bob gross out there in Chicago, Doctor

551
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:50,559
Bob, because we need a doctor
on every show on Stampy Hello Mac,

552
00:45:50,639 --> 00:45:54,920
Hello everybody. It's probably the UK, but from from the IL. Does

553
00:45:54,960 --> 00:46:00,400
that count almost? Yeah? It's
next to Vicars, yes, yes,

554
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:06,079
yeah, the home of the beginning
of Route sixty. Six, right,

555
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,360
yeah, that was well it was
root sixty six. What year? What

556
00:46:09,559 --> 00:46:14,639
year was that corvette? So that
was probably a sixty one or three sixty

557
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,880
three, yeah, three sixty two
something like that. Did they have a

558
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:20,719
slip headlights? I think I had
the round headlights and that sixty two?

559
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:25,960
Yeah it was oh yeah great?
Ye soundtrack? Uh what's his name?

560
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:32,039
Mancini? Right, Peter Mancini?
Boo anyway, listen. So anyway,

561
00:46:32,199 --> 00:46:37,000
also with us, I'm sorry,
as I guessed, Irena, police,

562
00:46:37,159 --> 00:46:42,079
just tell us who you are,
please and uh tell us you please,

563
00:46:43,159 --> 00:46:51,400
Irena. Yes, I've been investigating
UFOs, but it wasn't my profession.

564
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:58,519
I've worked in regular work. I
have a PhD from a veterinary school and

565
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,360
was a professor. And I also
had worked for the Defense Intelligence Agency.

566
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:07,840
Really yes, wow, well,
and I'm sorry, but so you are

567
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:12,440
in the US. Where were you
located? Exactly in the US in Ohio.

568
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:17,880
It's toward the eastern side of the
US. Okay, all right,

569
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:23,239
so you worked for the d i
A. And I mean but you you

570
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:28,320
also what retained an interest in UFOs? Did you always have? It was

571
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,519
a result that you're working for,
you know, the government agency they get

572
00:47:30,559 --> 00:47:36,559
you involved interested. No, I
was interested because I had sightings, and

573
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:43,000
I didn't mention it at all because
I wasn't in I was in scientific work,

574
00:47:43,039 --> 00:47:45,880
and so I didn't say anything about
it for many, many, many

575
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:51,960
years. Then as I needed retirement, I said a little bit about it

576
00:47:52,079 --> 00:47:55,679
and got harassed, and then retired
and said more about it. Okay,

577
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:59,800
so what is the thing? What? What what can you what did you

578
00:48:00,039 --> 00:48:04,840
learn during your time with the d
IA that you can tell us now that

579
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:08,199
it's just going to like kind of
wow us. Well, my time with

580
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:14,519
the d IA is one thing I
learned is that they keep track of everything

581
00:48:14,599 --> 00:48:16,559
all over the world. I mean, you know, if you have an

582
00:48:16,679 --> 00:48:21,679
air base, a military base,
or an air base or something else,

583
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:28,199
they have The United States has all
accordinates and all the target conformation. So

584
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,280
if more it breaks out, they
just push a button and everything can be

585
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:37,400
wiped out. Bo yep. Well, people should know that the difference between

586
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,639
the CIA. So the CIA is
a central intelligence agency, Okay, fine,

587
00:48:42,039 --> 00:48:45,559
the d IA is a defense intelligence
agency. Basically the CIA for the

588
00:48:45,679 --> 00:48:51,079
military. If you can, if
you imagine, the CIA really doesn't isn't

589
00:48:51,119 --> 00:48:53,159
really part of the military. It's
a US military. It's it's part of

590
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:59,920
something else. And the DA is
like the military's CIA, right Yeah,

591
00:49:00,199 --> 00:49:05,880
de I A is for other countries
investigating all over right, yeah sure.

592
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:13,400
So so so how long did you
work for them for I worked in the

593
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:22,400
National Geospace Intelligence Agency for several years, and then I worked for the Defense

594
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,840
Intelligence Agents. Okay, yeah,
okay, all right. And it's so

595
00:49:28,559 --> 00:49:31,760
you went into the job believing in
UFOs. Do you still believe in UFOs?

596
00:49:34,559 --> 00:49:37,440
I didn't believe. I had my
own experiences starting from when I was

597
00:49:37,519 --> 00:49:43,280
a kid, Okay, but it
wasn't about is anything that happened to you

598
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,559
in the de A, you know, swerved you away from that belief or

599
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:50,320
are you still a believer in that
these things are real? And so on?

600
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:57,960
Well, something that happened was that
my supervisors, who were fairly high

601
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:04,360
in the d I A. I
was in air Order of Battle and we

602
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,440
were supposed to identify all the flying
objects we saw all over this area.

603
00:50:08,199 --> 00:50:14,320
And they saw there was something on
the film that was identified as a UFO,

604
00:50:15,159 --> 00:50:21,199
and so they turned it in as
a UFO to their superiors, and

605
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:22,880
their superiors said, no, it
wasn't. It was a spot on the

606
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:27,199
film, what was on two films, and if you'd get it in stereo

607
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,000
and things, so you knew it
was real. And then they had it

608
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:36,360
investigated by what they called sense,
a density of people that studied photography who

609
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,039
also said it was something real,
but their supervisors said, no, it

610
00:50:39,159 --> 00:50:42,320
wasn't. It was a spot on
the film, even though that made no

611
00:50:42,519 --> 00:50:49,679
sense whatsoever. And so my supervisors
were quite put out about it because they

612
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,239
were supposed to be the authorities and
these people above them were saying no,

613
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:57,480
they didn't see anything, and they
didn't say anything logic cold it had a

614
00:50:58,199 --> 00:51:06,440
related to the actual photographs. So
I thought that someplace way up there's people

615
00:51:06,519 --> 00:51:15,960
that are making phenomenon, but it
wasn't. I don't think my supervisors had

616
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:19,760
a clearance to know about it,
right should should do you think that?

617
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,719
Though? There's my question is that
I know that. I mean, the

618
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:29,199
the the common belief is that once
you get elected president, you know everything,

619
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,760
you're briefed and everything. Okay,
that's not exactly true. I know

620
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:36,679
they have like a handful of secrets
of you know, depending on who's taking

621
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,000
over, that they're going to take
it, that they're going to tell you

622
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:43,840
and I remember Obama saying, you
know, like three of the five kept

623
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:45,719
being awake at night. You know, it's like shit, you don't want

624
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:52,920
to know, all right. But
I think that if UFOs were real,

625
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:59,880
and I think that every president in
the past forty years probably asked some form

626
00:52:00,079 --> 00:52:06,119
of that question. Okay, and
you're not necessarily briefed on it, but

627
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:12,400
if you ask, right, you
have to be briefed on it. And

628
00:52:12,519 --> 00:52:17,639
I just think that the previous occupant
of the Whitehouse would have asked, and

629
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:21,599
they would have had it, told
him to tell him, and he would

630
00:52:21,639 --> 00:52:27,199
have tweeted about it in seconds.
Right. So my question to you is,

631
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,599
I mean, what do they know? Do you think they know enough

632
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:34,119
that they could they could call the
press conference right now and say here's the

633
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:38,199
evidence and convince the majority of people. Do you think they have that much

634
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:44,480
evidence on hand? From what you've
seen, I would say they probably have

635
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:51,960
theirographic evidence, but I don't know
where in the government. It is probably

636
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,480
pretty high in the government. M
h. I guess that they. I

637
00:52:54,559 --> 00:53:00,519
mean the dia is who released those
video films. Yeah, the tiktack and

638
00:53:00,599 --> 00:53:06,840
so on. Much better photography than
that, right right, All right,

639
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:08,840
So My next version, then,
is that just in the past few years,

640
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:14,079
and this is something that's been different
over the past you know, forty

641
00:53:14,199 --> 00:53:19,480
years, is that the US government, the military seems to be almost admitting

642
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,039
that these things, especially on the
tiktak videos, are real. We don't

643
00:53:23,079 --> 00:53:27,599
know what they are. All of
a sudden, we're calling them a national

644
00:53:27,679 --> 00:53:31,760
security threat and they're talking about them, you know, And what has changed?

645
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,840
What do you think has changed in
the past three or four years.

646
00:53:35,079 --> 00:53:37,920
We keep saying, well, they've
found a committee and they'll get millions,

647
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:39,840
they'll get money, so why not
do it? But do you think the

648
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:45,440
government is finally kind of lowering its
you know, shield a little bit.

649
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:54,079
It could be there might be more
public pressure because there's probably a lot of

650
00:53:54,119 --> 00:54:00,960
people that have seen them. And
what are those signals I'm trying to assume,

651
00:54:01,599 --> 00:54:07,960
get another bier go ahead? Please? What don't no? I mean?

652
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:12,840
But so, is there anything that
would so there's nothing you've never seen

653
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:17,239
anything cross your desk that would you
know, convinced the majority of us that

654
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:25,079
something is going on as far as
you have follos a concern. Yeah,

655
00:54:25,119 --> 00:54:32,639
I think the Times article in twenty
seventeen had a big influence because they had

656
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:39,760
a pretty I mean it mentioned that
the government actually was studying UFO was a

657
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:44,400
secret, but they had been doing
that before, right, And I had

658
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:51,000
written an article about disclosure in the
move On Journals several years ago before that

659
00:54:51,119 --> 00:54:59,679
came out about the petical memorandum that
that showed way way back that the government

660
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:04,800
was secretly studying UFOs and talking out
the other side of their faces. Right,

661
00:55:05,079 --> 00:55:07,360
No, they don't exist because they
had the Rubbertson panel right right,

662
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:13,760
Yes, it is to debunk UFOs. Well, actually the government was secretly

663
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:20,639
studying them in top secret way before
that, but themselves, this is in

664
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,480
the early fifties. As a way
to quote unquote solve the UFO problem,

665
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:28,599
they put together this panel and as
they full of military guys and CIA guys,

666
00:55:29,159 --> 00:55:34,079
and the CIA people were concerned that
if you had some kind of like

667
00:55:34,159 --> 00:55:37,519
a mass UFO sighting that so only
people would call the Pentagon and call of

668
00:55:37,559 --> 00:55:42,360
the White House, that they would
fall. They would jam up the phone

669
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,280
lines, you know, this is
the fifties, and the Russians would be

670
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:49,239
able to attack us without any kind
of communication. So that's what started the

671
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:54,360
whole idea that let's make fools out
of the people who claim they see Ufos's

672
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:58,519
let's let's make it seem that there
are all hoaxes they see in Venus and

673
00:55:58,599 --> 00:56:01,159
so on and Solboark. They wanted
to make it seem like, you know,

674
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:07,320
it's like kind of the cuckoo factor
and that way when people saw UFOs,

675
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,079
they wouldn't you know, flood the
you know, the Pentagon you in

676
00:56:10,199 --> 00:56:13,440
the White House with phone calls.
I mean, it was as simple as

677
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,440
that. And that's just this whole
idea that the CIA is always trying to

678
00:56:16,599 --> 00:56:21,599
downplay. UFO is a public but
they've been studying them, you know,

679
00:56:21,679 --> 00:56:23,679
in private, and it's no surprise
they've been doing it from the sixties.

680
00:56:23,679 --> 00:56:29,199
They just they've just been denying it
until like a few years ago, right,

681
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:35,719
I mean, yes, So anyway, so you and Philip Mandam have

682
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:39,199
worked on a book, is that
true? We've worked on several books,

683
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:45,360
and the most recent one has been
in the past Stola correction account. Okay,

684
00:56:45,599 --> 00:56:49,199
all right, And and that's a
very famous account. It seems like

685
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,840
it's one of these accounts that hangs
on for a long time. People are

686
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:58,719
very interested in it, right,
Okay, So you know what can you

687
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:00,840
tell us about it? Weren't they
people they were in there were shaped like

688
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:04,800
robots and they had carrots or eyes
or something. It was really kind of

689
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:09,440
an unusual description of the aliens,
right, Well, it was unusual,

690
00:57:09,519 --> 00:57:17,760
and it was an extremely good account
because a lot of accounts hinge on hypnosis,

691
00:57:19,519 --> 00:57:25,559
okay, people having no memory of
things, or people having solitary sightings

692
00:57:25,679 --> 00:57:30,559
and abductions out in the middle of
nowhere and things like that. Well,

693
00:57:30,599 --> 00:57:37,000
this was different because it had two
people, both witnesses. They actually remembered

694
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:43,480
it consciously and right when it happened. He discussed whether they're reported or not,

695
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,280
because obviously, you know, everybody'd
laugh at him. But they did

696
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:57,880
report it. They reported immediately,
They interviewed immediately. They were the police

697
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:06,119
that interviewed them. One of thought
they might be hoaxing, and so they

698
00:58:07,039 --> 00:58:09,559
after they viewed them separately, they
put them together and put them in a

699
00:58:09,639 --> 00:58:15,000
room together and had a hidden tape
recorder so that they could find out whether

700
00:58:15,119 --> 00:58:21,119
the people were telling the truth or
lying. And the hidden tape recorder after

701
00:58:21,199 --> 00:58:24,480
they took it out, showed that
they were not only telling the truth,

702
00:58:24,559 --> 00:58:30,400
but they were both just like about
have heart attacks or go crazy. They

703
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:35,480
were so scared, right the police. The police transcripts, which I've read

704
00:58:36,159 --> 00:58:37,880
are really kind of chilling because it
says, there's no way these guys are

705
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:42,519
making this up. You know,
they're just not you know, reacting like

706
00:58:42,639 --> 00:58:46,440
as as hoaxes or whatever, you
know. And uh, well, so

707
00:58:47,639 --> 00:58:52,519
is the book out on the market
now, Yes, it's on the market.

708
00:58:52,639 --> 00:58:55,199
What's the name? What's the title? Here? It is? Can

709
00:58:55,239 --> 00:58:59,280
you say on the radio? But
yeah, we can see it? Yeah,

710
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:04,119
okay, all right, beyond reasonable
doubt. I like the title.

711
00:59:04,199 --> 00:59:07,280
It's on Amazon. I'm sure right, it's on Amazon. Yes, and

712
00:59:07,599 --> 00:59:12,440
you and you and Phield you work
together. You you were co authors of

713
00:59:12,519 --> 00:59:15,320
this, Yes we are, okay. And he's in England. You are

714
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:20,280
in US, right, okay,
and you meet ever in you know,

715
00:59:21,119 --> 00:59:28,280
in person. It's just on these
programs and things on podcasts. Okay,

716
00:59:28,599 --> 00:59:30,280
all right, all right, so
your friends though, your friends, your

717
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:37,719
cold, your colleagues. Yes,
he uh, he's in England. And

718
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:45,599
the event happened down in Mississippi,
right, yes, one accent. Mississippi

719
00:59:45,599 --> 00:59:49,039
has another accent, that's true.
Yes, and everything else. So we

720
00:59:49,119 --> 00:59:52,559
wanted somebody in the United States to
interview down there. Yes, have you

721
00:59:52,679 --> 00:59:55,639
been down there? Have you gone
down to the Mississippi to the site itself?

722
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:00,440
No, my husband mississipp Yeah,
I've been in Mississippi, but I

723
01:00:00,559 --> 01:00:04,880
haven't gone down there. Really,
yes, yeah, what do you think

724
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:09,679
of Mississippi? Just off the top
of your head. It's interesting because there

725
01:00:10,119 --> 01:00:15,039
when I went with my husband,
they have such a strong accent that he

726
01:00:15,119 --> 01:00:19,719
had to practically translate what people were
saying. Really, yeah, that does

727
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,239
not surprise me. So anyway,
listen, I mean you want to hang

728
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:24,639
around. We're going to do a
top ten list right now for the show.

729
01:00:24,679 --> 01:00:28,960
You want to hang around with us? Oh yeah, okay, all

730
01:00:29,039 --> 01:00:31,159
right? So when do we do
this? We don't need a commercial break,

731
01:00:31,239 --> 01:00:35,679
do we? O'll? Well,
we're ready to roll. What don't

732
01:00:35,679 --> 01:00:38,840
we do the top ten list?
Raven has there? You go round one?

733
01:00:40,199 --> 01:00:44,239
Yes? All right? Yeah?
Lay that message right? So you

734
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,039
have a top ten lists far us? Right? Right? Please? Do

735
01:00:47,159 --> 01:00:52,440
I just had it pulled up.
I'm getting up pulled up again now if

736
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:55,599
I can remember, And that's not
a hundred per cent chance. I think

737
01:00:55,679 --> 01:01:02,880
it is top ten reasons why Switch
is going to buy an alligator? That's

738
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:07,519
what you said? Which is perfect
for this night, as it turns out.

739
01:01:07,559 --> 01:01:14,480
Okay. Top ten reasons why we're
just gonna buy an alligator? You

740
01:01:14,559 --> 01:01:17,960
ready, yeah, okay, we'll
stop the music. Is this gonna be

741
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:22,800
credible? Mac oh, yeah,
of course. Okay. I just wanted

742
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:27,039
to be sure switch. I don't
read anything that is not credible. I'll

743
01:01:27,079 --> 01:01:30,840
switch switch good. Please Number ten
please, right, number ten. They

744
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:37,360
cost less than crocodiles to feed,
and so okay, number nine, please,

745
01:01:38,079 --> 01:01:42,280
they don't have to be burnt.
They don't have to be burped.

746
01:01:44,159 --> 01:01:47,119
This will go quick, go ahead. Eight, number eight. When the

747
01:01:47,199 --> 01:01:53,360
day comes, I'll have a nice
pair of shoes, I think, okay,

748
01:01:54,239 --> 01:02:00,199
wow, seven Please do you know
a better way to keep it is

749
01:02:00,199 --> 01:02:06,559
off your lawn? That's yeah,
that's a good one. Good nice numbers.

750
01:02:07,599 --> 01:02:12,239
His cats need a new friend to
play with for a little while.

751
01:02:13,239 --> 01:02:21,400
A Top ten reasons why switches by
an Alligat number five, let's just let's

752
01:02:21,519 --> 01:02:30,039
just call it his annoying barking canine
elimination systems annoying. Please right number four.

753
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:34,639
It's the closest thing he could think
of to running away and joining the

754
01:02:34,719 --> 01:02:39,519
circus. Alliget is in circus.
Probably not be nice please rave, no

755
01:02:39,679 --> 01:02:46,599
idea, no litter box to clean? Right, wow, okay, right

756
01:02:46,639 --> 01:02:51,320
here we go. I'm sorry,
Doug Dog just shaking his head. Well

757
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:59,519
it's too much tonight, just some
it's just egg and yeah, sorry,

758
01:02:59,519 --> 01:03:04,320
you're not this tough love. That's
what it must be club. Okay,

759
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:07,119
all right? Are we a number
two? One? What we're number two?

760
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:14,039
Number two? Number two? Bald
rug? It doesn't matter. Alligators

761
01:03:14,079 --> 01:03:22,400
don't judge. So well, that
was incredible, all right and the number

762
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:30,679
one reason Switch wants to buy an
alligator. They taste like chicken. Switch.

763
01:03:31,159 --> 01:03:35,079
Okay, Marien, you're still with
us. She's shaking her head.

764
01:03:35,159 --> 01:03:37,599
Yeah. Sorry, you didn't know
what you were getting into it, did

765
01:03:37,639 --> 01:03:42,440
you. I I do have a
question for Irene for go ahead ahead that

766
01:03:42,519 --> 01:03:45,000
why not? Now? Go ahead
please? Okay, Irene. I understand

767
01:03:45,159 --> 01:03:50,679
that Charles Hickson was a repeater,
a researcher named Ray Stanford who's been in

768
01:03:50,719 --> 01:03:54,480
this for a while. I did
some extensive interviews with him, and I

769
01:03:54,599 --> 01:03:59,920
heard stories that Charles Hickson would be
out hunting. This is after the passing

770
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:03,480
incident. He would be out hunting
and all of a sudden things will get

771
01:04:03,559 --> 01:04:06,400
quiet, you know, like the
OZ factor and he'd have a sighting,

772
01:04:08,039 --> 01:04:12,280
not another reduction, but he'd have
another sighting. And even Race Stanford went

773
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:15,840
with him one year after the Pasca
Gooula incident and they sat there on that

774
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:18,159
pier. Nothing happened. But later
on he took him down to Texas.

775
01:04:19,159 --> 01:04:25,960
Ray Stanford had an area he called
Starlight International and they actually had a sighting,

776
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:30,239
a classic sighting down there, and
he thought he believed that as some

777
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:34,360
people do seem to attract these things
or have more experiences than others, he

778
01:04:34,519 --> 01:04:39,360
believed that Charles Hickson was one of
those persons. I just wonder if in

779
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:44,559
your research you encountered that or had
any opinions on that. Well, he

780
01:04:44,679 --> 01:04:53,280
had another sighting and it was with
his family, the whole family. Several

781
01:04:53,320 --> 01:05:01,840
people were driving in a car and
they saw UFO and his wife was really

782
01:05:02,159 --> 01:05:08,440
scared and so they left the area, but the whole family saw it and

783
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:13,639
would talk about it. His wife
was pretty was more nervous than he was

784
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:17,639
apparently about the whole subject, and
he was scared and worried about it.

785
01:05:18,679 --> 01:05:23,719
Well, he took it in stride. The one he saw in Texas very

786
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:30,960
interesting character and also there was a
Stan Gordon's book Silent Invasion. I can't

787
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:33,719
remember what state it was in,
but there was a woman that had an

788
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:38,880
experience. It was like one of
these bedroom invaders things with this apparition kind

789
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:42,960
of floated through her bedroom. Well
it looked just like the Pasca Gooula aliens,

790
01:05:43,519 --> 01:05:46,239
but it turned out it was one
month before the Pasca Gooula encounter.

791
01:05:46,639 --> 01:05:50,920
I just I don't know how credible
that is. But also doctor David Webb

792
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:55,159
who wrote nineteen seventy three, A
Year of the Humanoids, because as you

793
01:05:55,239 --> 01:05:59,920
know, there were all kinds of
encounters in that fall, there's a report

794
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:04,320
of a young child that saw something
like the pascor google an alien in his

795
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:09,320
backyard, and uh, the description
of the child. And again, I

796
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:12,320
don't know how credible these things are, but it just seems like some of

797
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:16,440
these things that there are patterns,
they have legs and so forth. Yes,

798
01:06:16,559 --> 01:06:20,920
and this one was quite a bit
different from nearly all the other ones.

799
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:28,320
And because a lot of them are
sort of like slender aliens that have

800
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:31,280
big eyes and big heads and things, right, these were kind of chunky

801
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:38,920
and didn't and you couldn't even see
their eyes or they were difficult to see,

802
01:06:39,559 --> 01:06:43,519
so they weren't exactly like the others, but they sort of showed that

803
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:46,719
if these people were hoaxing, they
would probably looked up as you know,

804
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:51,000
what people think aliens look like,
and describe them that way. These were

805
01:06:53,719 --> 01:06:58,000
the two people didn't have any interest
in UFOs to start with, and they

806
01:06:58,079 --> 01:07:03,239
describe what they saw, which was
like a standard the standard media picture of

807
01:07:03,239 --> 01:07:08,559
an alien. You know, you
mentioned the tape, the clandestine tape that

808
01:07:08,639 --> 01:07:12,920
the police made. I actually heard
a copy of that tape back in nineteen

809
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:15,519
seventy six. I was in an
informal UFO group and our sort of de

810
01:07:15,599 --> 01:07:20,599
factor leader's name was Lloyd. He
was friends with Charles Hickson's co author in

811
01:07:20,679 --> 01:07:25,559
the book he wrote years ago,
Mendez or Menendez, I'm not sure what

812
01:07:25,679 --> 01:07:29,800
his last name was, And he
got a copy, a cassette copy of

813
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:33,599
that interview and we were we were
blown away because, like you said,

814
01:07:33,639 --> 01:07:36,199
you know, they walked, the
police walk out of the room, and

815
01:07:36,239 --> 01:07:40,119
you hear these guys saying, but
do you see that? You know,

816
01:07:40,199 --> 01:07:43,840
I mean they were really shaken up
by what they what they what they saw,

817
01:07:44,559 --> 01:07:46,920
So yeah, I just it was
a really uh And another thing I

818
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:49,960
don't. I don't know, maybe
my memories family, But I in perusing

819
01:07:50,039 --> 01:07:54,719
that book again, this is the
original book by Charles Hickson. I thought

820
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:59,599
he said maybe it was later on
under a hypnosis section or whatever. He's

821
01:07:59,679 --> 01:08:02,920
he's in the craft and he's looking
at a wall and there's a window,

822
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:08,239
like a partition or whatever, and
and if I'm remembering correctly, he saw

823
01:08:09,719 --> 01:08:15,360
entities in there that looked very humanoid
and suggesting that maybe, if that's if

824
01:08:15,559 --> 01:08:20,800
my memory is correct, that perhaps
these entities were controlling these other androids or

825
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:25,640
whatever they were. Is is there
any any truth to that? That was

826
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:29,039
in his book? And I think
it came I think he said it under

827
01:08:29,119 --> 01:08:35,000
hypnosis. Okay, I'm not I'm
not crazy. Then no, okay,

828
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:42,840
Well some of the guys here might
might have a different dame. So do

829
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:46,359
you think you think perhaps the the
ones, the entities controlling this craft were

830
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:51,920
more humanoid looking and maybe that these
uh, I don't know, these these

831
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:57,680
androids, these robots who were sort
of doing their bidding or controlled by them,

832
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:00,479
well, they both thought that they
the things that picked them up.

833
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:04,800
They referred to them as things.
In one tape right after once were they

834
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:12,760
said they kind of looked like ghosts. Well they thought they were. That

835
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:19,119
they moved in a mechanical way,
right, the fluid way of something alive,

836
01:09:19,279 --> 01:09:25,640
and they both felt that there was
something mechanical about them. It's a

837
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:29,800
fascinating encounter. And it was in
the midst of that. That's fall in

838
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:33,560
nineteen seventy three, when there were
dozens of encounters, and you know,

839
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:35,800
you know, I mean that was
back in the good old days, and

840
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:41,079
we had quite a variety of these
uh whatever they were, these humanoids.

841
01:09:41,239 --> 01:09:44,279
Nowadays we just have the boring grays
all the time, messing with people,

842
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:47,640
and I longed for I have a
certain amount of nostalgia with the good old

843
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:51,079
days when we had some really cool
aliens, wow, sweitchery, a little

844
01:09:51,359 --> 01:09:55,479
glimpse into switches like So, I
let me ask you this, though,

845
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:59,960
is there any chance, any chance
at all it was some Monday ascids before.

846
01:10:00,119 --> 01:10:03,640
Any chance at all is like a
special ops just you know, created

847
01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:06,359
by the CIA or the d I
A or something like that. Is there

848
01:10:06,399 --> 01:10:11,600
any chances human base because there's a
lot of odd things about it that you

849
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:17,239
don't really hear in other abduction stories. Well, I think if the CIA

850
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:20,920
was doing it, they would have
made something up that looked like a typical

851
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:25,800
abductions, right the charts, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's

852
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:29,479
true. A good point. Yeah, that's true. Are they capable of

853
01:10:30,039 --> 01:10:33,159
doing anything like that, even if
they covered all their bases? The CIA

854
01:10:33,399 --> 01:10:39,279
capable of like abducting someone and convincing
them that they were abducted by aliens?

855
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:45,039
Well, I think that'd be hard
because they were both out by themselves.

856
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:48,239
They had no interest in UFOs or
anything else. Right, they were on

857
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:59,560
here and they saw this thing coming
levitated. It didn't land, and when

858
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:06,720
they were on board, they were
levitated and they were instantly paralyzed. They

859
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:15,720
thought that they'd been injected, Yes, yes, with something. I don't

860
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:18,880
think that. I don't think any
uh, you know, according to what

861
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:27,319
their descriptions were in these descriptions were
both conscious from an immediate I don't think

862
01:11:27,359 --> 01:11:30,880
the CIA or anything had anything that
would leavitate really. Yeah, that's true.

863
01:11:31,079 --> 01:11:33,159
But let me ask you this though, just knowing what you know,

864
01:11:33,359 --> 01:11:38,359
being in the intelligence community, we
were in a d i A, which

865
01:11:38,399 --> 01:11:41,720
is the military ci A. Do
you think that the d i A or

866
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:46,600
the c i A or the government
in the US military intelligence is anyone you

867
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:53,800
are astute enough to pull off an
adupt induction, pull off, pull off

868
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:57,680
an abduction. That they would that
people would convinced that they were taken by

869
01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:00,359
aliens. Do you know what I
mean? They that's my have to pull

870
01:12:00,399 --> 01:12:05,079
out that kind of a charade.
Uh, yeah, I think they could.

871
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:11,960
I don't think it'd be under those
circumstances. I think they would if

872
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:15,319
they wanted to do that, they
might hypnotize somebody and say, well,

873
01:12:15,359 --> 01:12:17,520
you're abducted, and then they would
wake up and think they were something.

874
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:26,840
I don't know. We could two
people and an immediate immediate report on it,

875
01:12:28,359 --> 01:12:32,079
but you know, the immediate interviews
and everything else in the sixties,

876
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:42,079
the c Yeah, Mac, if
you on this topic, I could add

877
01:12:42,159 --> 01:12:48,680
something that I ran into while working
with the Galileo Project at CARB really shocked

878
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:58,800
me. Uh it's kind of quiet. Have you have you have anyone in

879
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:04,840
the group ever heard of It's called
Project Bluebeam. I no, Yeah,

880
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:08,840
the name sounds familiar, but I
couldn't tell you what it was, what

881
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:11,319
it was it was. It was
again, it was something that happened a

882
01:13:11,359 --> 01:13:18,039
few years ago where they found what
they thought was a conspiracy theory about there

883
01:13:18,199 --> 01:13:26,800
was a group of individuals who were
going to create hollow grams and then they

884
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:30,560
were going to project those into the
atmosphere, and then they were going to

885
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:38,800
pretend that there was an alien takeover. Okay, And it started out as

886
01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:42,640
a it was a it was a
hoax. It was you know, it

887
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:48,039
was a conspiracy theory. It wasn't
a real conspiracy. Now, something I

888
01:13:48,239 --> 01:13:56,119
accidentally ran into at the Galileo project
when I was working there, and I'm

889
01:13:56,159 --> 01:14:00,199
trying to keep this as secret as
possible for right now, but to give

890
01:14:00,239 --> 01:14:04,760
you an idea, don't worry.
I ran into a I was being trained

891
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:13,239
how to use artificial intelligence to identify
UAPs. That was what I was.

892
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:16,960
That was basically what I was doing
on this project. And I was training

893
01:14:18,159 --> 01:14:26,800
an artificial intelligence computer that was running
high, very high quality artificial intelligence software.

894
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:32,479
And I was having that computer or
training to be able to identify UAPs.

895
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:36,880
Well, I had an option.
I went through some training sessions you

896
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:42,079
know, on the internet, and
I had an option. When I felt

897
01:14:42,079 --> 01:14:45,359
out the form to join the Galileel
project, I had to write down did

898
01:14:45,399 --> 01:14:49,760
I want to work with two D
or three D training? At first,

899
01:14:50,239 --> 01:14:55,319
and since I had really never done
much training with artificial intelligence. I went

900
01:14:55,359 --> 01:15:01,520
through two D first. Well,
they accidentally gave me the program for the

901
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:09,520
three D. Okay, okay,
yes, yes, and and I I

902
01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:13,720
have information of it. But what
what they They had the possibility and this

903
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:19,640
was just a year or two ago, that they could create, uh what

904
01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:25,920
will look like alien spacecraft that were
artificial intelligence and they were going to be

905
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:33,399
able to project those blue see this
is what freaked me out. The Blue

906
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:39,640
Beam project, which was a you
know, a a theory. You know,

907
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:45,359
it was a conspiracy theory. It
actually could have been real. And

908
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:48,279
this you had, you could rank
well on the program I saw, you

909
01:15:48,359 --> 01:15:54,399
could rank on how real that alien
spacecraft was. And it was a three

910
01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:59,039
D animated alien spacecraft? What what? What? What would they how would

911
01:15:59,039 --> 01:16:01,479
they put that to you? You
know what I mean, just to show

912
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:06,279
up over some enemy city and fee
well according to it? Again, the

913
01:16:06,359 --> 01:16:13,439
Blue Bean project, which I you
know, I just started researching it when

914
01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:16,800
I found out that that could happen. Okay, they were planning to start

915
01:16:17,159 --> 01:16:26,800
projecting in this conspiracy theory there were
they were planning to project these images and

916
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:30,560
then say that it's an alien take
over. Really and then they mean then

917
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:33,920
it got deeper and deeper. But
and now I was doing some research and

918
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:39,000
that actually that technology is out there
right now now. Yeah, yeah,

919
01:16:39,079 --> 01:16:45,239
yeah, A see like a swarm
of of drones. I mean, you

920
01:16:45,319 --> 01:16:48,680
know this last fourth of July someplace, they had a swarm of like,

921
01:16:49,239 --> 01:16:54,399
you know, five thousand drones and
they're like, it's like doing like kind

922
01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:56,520
of video in the sky. It's
I mean, hey, Raven, do

923
01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:59,840
you have a question? Raven?
Do you have a question on the top

924
01:16:59,880 --> 01:17:03,159
of or are those Oh no,
it's it's I'm sorry I mixed you up

925
01:17:03,159 --> 01:17:06,279
with Switchy for some reason. Switch
you have a question? Yeah, I

926
01:17:06,359 --> 01:17:11,399
have another question for Irene. I
mean, were there I heard some conflicting

927
01:17:11,479 --> 01:17:17,600
things about whether or not other people
saw the craft that that was responsible for

928
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:24,119
the abduction of Hickson and Parker.
Some people questioned that people I think manning

929
01:17:24,159 --> 01:17:28,119
a bridge nearby didn't see anything.
But then I think I heard that there

930
01:17:28,159 --> 01:17:30,880
were other people that may have seen
something. What what does your research show

931
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:35,840
about what other people may have seen
to coroborate their experience. Well, that

932
01:17:36,119 --> 01:17:43,319
very night, there are a lot
of people put reporting to the police that

933
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:48,760
they saw something on and they had
about fifty reports of people saying that they

934
01:17:49,039 --> 01:17:54,319
saw something at normal. Plus they
had people in the police station reporting something

935
01:17:54,399 --> 01:18:03,399
normal too, And unfortunately, Katrina
the hurricane ruined everything and they couldn't save

936
01:18:03,439 --> 01:18:09,239
it. But we've been interviewing a
lot of people that are coming out now

937
01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:14,399
because it's more, it's easier to
report now and you don't get to rest

938
01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:19,760
to that extent. And we've got
about fifty people that saw something odd that

939
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:23,039
night, and some of them were
on the bridge, some of them were

940
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:30,640
in cranes on one of them was
in a crane on the river and just

941
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:36,960
in the area, okay, And
didn't Calvin Parker originally say that he passed

942
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:42,399
out when he went into the craft, but he didn't because he didn't want

943
01:18:42,399 --> 01:18:45,800
to answer questions. But later on
he said he was awake and alert the

944
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:51,720
whole time. Yeah, Charles Hickson
was older, he had been in the

945
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:57,199
army, he had been in life
and death situations, and he thought that

946
01:18:57,359 --> 01:19:00,079
he could stand up to the vast
amount of grasping that they were going to

947
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:08,560
going to go have to go through. Calvin was eighteen, a teenager.

948
01:19:09,039 --> 01:19:13,800
He was engaged. He wanted to
get married and he didn't want you know,

949
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:17,960
anybody's you know, stopping or for
having, you know, his claims

950
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:21,600
for the future. And so he
hit it for a long time, and

951
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:26,960
he didn't even talk about it to
his wife or anybody. He just tried

952
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:30,119
to bury it and he didn't want
to go through life and everybody saying,

953
01:19:30,159 --> 01:19:31,960
oh, did you see the UFO? You know, how did you get

954
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:36,960
involved, Irana? How did you
How did it catch our interest? I

955
01:19:38,079 --> 01:19:44,399
got involved for two reasons. One
of them was that this happened October the

956
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:48,239
eleventh, nineteen seventy three. Well, something happened to me exactly the same

957
01:19:48,359 --> 01:19:54,239
time, and I was living in
Missouri. My mother was in Ohio,

958
01:19:54,319 --> 01:19:59,159
about six hundred miles distant. My
mother was a big skeptic, and she

959
01:19:59,359 --> 01:20:02,279
called one and said, did you
hear that noise? And I said,

960
01:20:02,399 --> 01:20:09,199
you know, I couldn't possibly hear
that noise? And she, you know,

961
01:20:09,359 --> 01:20:12,520
so I told her she was crazy
and everything, and so she kept

962
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:15,039
saying did you hear that noise?
Then about several days later she called and

963
01:20:15,159 --> 01:20:20,680
said that there was a huge wave
of UFOs where she was in Ohio and

964
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:27,000
it was just like they were describing
down in Mississippi, and people were keeping

965
01:20:27,039 --> 01:20:30,600
their kids in that people were scared
at night yea, and that sort of

966
01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:34,640
thing. And so anyway, years
later I didn't pay attention to it too

967
01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:40,920
much. But years later I was
in the Ohio State University Library and just

968
01:20:41,199 --> 01:20:44,479
on an impulse, I decided to
look up and see if I could find

969
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:46,119
out when that noise was. And
I didn't expect to because I didn't even

970
01:20:46,119 --> 01:20:48,880
remember the date. And I thought, well, look at a few newspapers

971
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:53,079
and forget about it. But I
found it. Even though I didn't know

972
01:20:53,159 --> 01:20:57,600
the date. I just went in
the middle of October seventy three and found

973
01:20:57,640 --> 01:21:02,159
it. Well, it was interesting
because there was a huge noise traveled across

974
01:21:02,199 --> 01:21:06,720
about half the United States. Okay, yep. And they explain it and

975
01:21:08,039 --> 01:21:14,319
it happened exactly the same time as
the abduction. Yeah, yeah, a

976
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:17,680
switchy, wasn't it. It wasn't
in a wave of UFOs that was happening

977
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:21,000
in that summer of seventy three or
something. Yeah, at the fall that

978
01:21:21,159 --> 01:21:26,720
was they called. David Webb did
a book called nineteen seventy three Year of

979
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:30,279
the Humanoid, and he chronicles a
lot of the well frankly close encomers of

980
01:21:30,319 --> 01:21:35,039
the Third Time it happened. Wow, that's Fall. Well listen, we're

981
01:21:35,079 --> 01:21:40,079
going to take a quick commercial break
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982
01:21:40,159 --> 01:21:43,479
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991
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This is Mac and Roney. What
a show, I mean, really,

992
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:54,920
what a show. If some help
it together tonight, Chris Fall,

993
01:22:55,239 --> 01:23:00,119
this is really the you know,
coking spirit is one is with us across

994
01:23:00,199 --> 01:23:04,000
the fun of Wamie heay back yere. This is a really weird joke,

995
01:23:04,239 --> 01:23:10,199
really weird, very well done.
Yeah, Irene has really added to the

996
01:23:11,159 --> 01:23:13,920
melting pot here as we call it, it is a melting pot. Yes,

997
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:18,119
good job there, Okay, yes, walking back everybody, and okay,

998
01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:23,760
come along for the ride. That's
right, more to come if you

999
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:28,800
did. Also with us is a
national correspondent switch Plade, Steve Wite Switchy.

1000
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:31,079
Great to be here taking one for
the team tonight. Do you see

1001
01:23:31,079 --> 01:23:33,880
how he took his glances off,
just like my kent. Listen, real

1002
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:36,199
quick, guys, we're gonna have
to gym it in. What do you

1003
01:23:36,279 --> 01:23:41,840
have for breakfast today? Just real
quick, Tutor's biscuit World. I got

1004
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:45,920
a kind of a stepped down a
breakfast platter, just pancakes and bacon,

1005
01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:49,600
pancakes and bacon. Okay, all
right, yeah, all right, that's

1006
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:57,119
just startful. And I didn't eat
all the pancakes, just cutting down your

1007
01:23:57,199 --> 01:24:00,920
carbs, right. I ate all
the bacon though it's good for you.

1008
01:24:00,039 --> 01:24:04,560
Don't want its aching for bacon man, looking that means something different. Also

1009
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:09,720
with us is the best food.
Also with us as our security chief,

1010
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:15,560
Willy club Mac, I'll tell you
tonight, I don't know how I'm absorbing

1011
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:18,359
all this. A while to figure
all this out and then top it off

1012
01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:24,920
with Switch talking about bacon and how
it's right. Yes, well that's a

1013
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:29,359
fit. Just wait for the DVD
and and tune in for extras. Wait

1014
01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:33,840
well, well, okay, all
right. Also with us, well in

1015
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:42,560
the studio with us uh looking at
pulling on this time gladly kitties fell al

1016
01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:47,479
but now though you'll call me?
Hey everyone? Yeah, everything, okay,

1017
01:24:48,119 --> 01:24:53,800
it's fine. Is the car started
for the getaway and I got to

1018
01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:57,199
arb it up in the parking lot
because it's cold out. Also with us

1019
01:24:58,119 --> 01:25:02,680
is favorite good Witch up different sideways
in your grave? And why why why

1020
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:06,000
do you why aren't you bowling on
Tuesday nights instead of being with us?

1021
01:25:06,119 --> 01:25:13,560
Right? Hi? Bullying is boring. That's why I'm not there. It's

1022
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:17,399
as good as anything. All right, are you having time? Are you

1023
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:21,079
having fun tonight? I am?
Thank you so much for having me.

1024
01:25:21,079 --> 01:25:24,800
Okay, in the drink that the
drink that you drank, what was it?

1025
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:32,840
Just response you can't talk about it? Set me off. I'm serious,

1026
01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:39,359
got drunk and the drink that she
dyes, go figure, sounds like

1027
01:25:39,399 --> 01:25:47,359
a country song anyway. Also with
us is super fan Susan Kay, Susan,

1028
01:25:47,439 --> 01:25:51,960
how are you how Susan, how
are you. I am doing well.

1029
01:25:53,119 --> 01:25:55,720
Thank you so much. It's so
much fun to be here. Just

1030
01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:59,319
to you know, kind of tease
this. You don't have any animals in

1031
01:25:59,399 --> 01:26:04,920
your camera arranged you. Well,
let's see, let's keep what is that?

1032
01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:10,000
Don't say anything? Hold on,
hold on, hold on, holme

1033
01:26:10,039 --> 01:26:14,840
on. All right, Doctor Bob
is also at the time, Doctor Bob.

1034
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:20,439
We need and none of the just
hey, doctor Bob, thanks for

1035
01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:26,119
joining us tonight. Thank you Max, Hello everyone for this. You can't

1036
01:26:26,159 --> 01:26:30,159
send us for this. You can
send us a bill, Okay, okay,

1037
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:34,399
if you know what I mean.
Also with us as a good friend.

1038
01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:41,600
Irana down in Ohio, who is
someone who's very as research and a

1039
01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:45,840
lot of research into the Pastaola abductions. And I don't know, it was

1040
01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:49,720
one of the subduction cases where it
just sticks around, you know, it's

1041
01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:53,600
it's it's a lot of them just
kind of fall by the wayside, right,

1042
01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:58,359
Irana. But this one kind of
has some water to it. Well,

1043
01:26:58,439 --> 01:27:00,079
this one had a lot of other
works. This is a lot of

1044
01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:08,640
investigation, a lot sort of like
proof that the people actually thought they saw

1045
01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:14,920
what they said, and a lot
of evidence, all kinds of evidence the

1046
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:20,359
transcripts of them with the cops really, Like I say, you just read

1047
01:27:20,399 --> 01:27:25,800
them and there's like no way they're
hoaxing it that they're not lying, They're

1048
01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:30,079
they're reacting and talking. I think
they're available on the internet too. The

1049
01:27:30,119 --> 01:27:34,680
audio of these shoe Yeah, that's
bad. So anyway, listen, we

1050
01:27:34,840 --> 01:27:39,800
do have a big announcement on the
show tonight. Okay, regular listeners will

1051
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:42,760
understand why we're making a big deal
out of that. I'm going to turn

1052
01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:48,159
it over you, Raven. Yeah, no, I have really good news.

1053
01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:51,760
Mister Raven and I decided that we
were going to adopt a new kitty.

1054
01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:59,640
So we adopted a sweet old baby. Her name isn't Lucy and that's

1055
01:28:00,199 --> 01:28:09,039
with an eye. She is a
dilute tory is her coat putting some pictures

1056
01:28:09,079 --> 01:28:14,520
in the group chat, and she
has extra toes and she's super super cute.

1057
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:19,960
I love her. It was super
not planned, not expected at all,

1058
01:28:20,159 --> 01:28:23,960
and Sunday we came home with a
cat. That's what they all say.

1059
01:28:24,279 --> 01:28:28,439
So listen, Raven, do you
do you not understand that toties are

1060
01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:33,039
trouble. I heard that I've owned
might share with them. Toties are trouble.

1061
01:28:33,119 --> 01:28:36,159
I know this is a time.
Toty's a kind of cat. It's

1062
01:28:36,159 --> 01:28:43,840
a shell coloring of this of the
fir and it's always a female. And

1063
01:28:44,159 --> 01:28:48,560
todies are trouble and they just have
an attitude they do. Certainly has her

1064
01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:51,800
own little personality. We're kind of
dealing with a little cold right now because

1065
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:56,239
she wasn't a shelter. So it's
typical that they'll come home. And this

1066
01:28:56,319 --> 01:29:00,000
isn't really just the weather doesn't help. You're clapping over six toes with the

1067
01:29:00,079 --> 01:29:03,159
cat, you know, not that
it's from Gernobyl or anything. That's great.

1068
01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:09,479
They're supposed to be good luck when
they have extra toes, okay,

1069
01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:12,159
and you know what, right,
you know, there's too many jokes on

1070
01:29:12,279 --> 01:29:18,840
that just warmed Max cockles. Oh
indeed, But Charity's in trouble, trust

1071
01:29:18,920 --> 01:29:25,119
me. Okay, I've owned who
is a cutie. She's cute, all

1072
01:29:25,159 --> 01:29:27,000
right, all right, So I'm
sitting right here with me. She's in

1073
01:29:27,079 --> 01:29:29,880
her little cat tree. She's like
right in front of my computer. Okay,

1074
01:29:30,119 --> 01:29:33,760
all right, I feel like I've
eaten. I've eaten like ten pounds

1075
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:38,159
of tofu, if you know what
I mean. Club, you don't have

1076
01:29:38,319 --> 01:29:41,520
cats, right, do you know
any of those disgusting animals around your house?

1077
01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:44,760
Do you? Now? As you
know, I'm a dog, your

1078
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:48,720
dog person. Yes, I'm not
as vicious uh to cats as you are,

1079
01:29:49,399 --> 01:29:54,039
but they're not one of my friends. Well realistic, right, No

1080
01:29:54,119 --> 01:29:57,520
one's really favorite. Right you haven't
met the right cat? Yeah? Yes,

1081
01:29:57,600 --> 01:30:00,960
I am all right? I mean
a Do you have any cats?

1082
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:04,000
Do you have a dog or a
cat? I have a cat and she's

1083
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:12,880
sitting in the window killing me.
I have three cats. See this is

1084
01:30:13,079 --> 01:30:15,079
bad, so it's bad for the
show. You know, this is not

1085
01:30:15,199 --> 01:30:17,720
what we want to doctor Bob.
You don't have any cats, do you?

1086
01:30:19,439 --> 01:30:25,279
Doctor Bob? Don't let us doe? Do you any cats? Uh?

1087
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:29,079
No? But I have a couple
of cockroaches that I keep in the

1088
01:30:29,199 --> 01:30:33,600
jar. Why do you need that
by the door? The holes in the

1089
01:30:33,680 --> 01:30:39,840
top right? No dog? No? No? No? No, okay,

1090
01:30:40,159 --> 01:30:45,520
well watch some stuff cool? So
in Raven, so should we take

1091
01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:48,199
a cat count? So you have
what? What? Nine cats? Out?

1092
01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:51,439
I'm down to three? Down to
three? Raven? You have one

1093
01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:55,479
cat? Now right? That's four? One cat? Two dogs? How

1094
01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:59,039
many? How many? Switchy?
How many cats? You have? Three?

1095
01:30:59,439 --> 01:31:01,720
Three? Irena has one? So
how mun do we in the sum

1096
01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:08,119
three? Six? I was okay? One? Then do you have the

1097
01:31:08,159 --> 01:31:13,119
cats? Did you being catt with
you over there? Know the cat we

1098
01:31:13,239 --> 01:31:15,720
had passed about a few months before
we arrived here in the UK. Okay,

1099
01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:20,319
all right, so I no castle, you and Susan kay? And

1100
01:31:20,479 --> 01:31:34,159
you have like a dozen of them
right? Eleven eleven canner? Yeah?

1101
01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:41,920
Wow? To write them down to
count them? Okay, that's that's good.

1102
01:31:42,039 --> 01:31:45,239
How many are inside? How many
are outside? Three are inside?

1103
01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:50,880
Excuse me? I have twelve?
I missed one? Well okay. And

1104
01:31:51,039 --> 01:31:56,239
then we have a like a cat
suite built onto our detached garage so that

1105
01:31:56,399 --> 01:32:01,680
they can go outside during the day
and they're safe from predators like a cadio

1106
01:32:02,279 --> 01:32:09,000
a cao. I love that cato
man. That's I have several that have

1107
01:32:09,239 --> 01:32:13,159
trapped and released so to try to
stop the cycle from the strays showing up,

1108
01:32:13,680 --> 01:32:18,640
and they just kind of stayed so
far inside. Three on the CaTiO

1109
01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:23,800
and then the rest are But you
farm, you're in a hush farm.

1110
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:29,760
You're in a hush farm, right, correct? Okay? Two donkeys really

1111
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:34,000
don donkeys are interested. I've almost
thinked of getting a donkey. Donkeys are

1112
01:32:34,079 --> 01:32:39,199
really interesting. Uh you know animals. You've seen a donkey, I hate

1113
01:32:39,239 --> 01:32:45,520
to say this attack a coyote.
Okay, the donkey, they're true blue

1114
01:32:45,359 --> 01:32:50,279
boom five seconds of coyote is like
done, you know, and hyaenas and

1115
01:32:50,359 --> 01:32:54,640
stuff like that. Yeah, I'm
trying. They they're like mean animals when

1116
01:32:54,640 --> 01:32:57,319
it comes to their rona and stuff
like that. So yeah, donkeys are

1117
01:32:57,359 --> 01:33:00,920
really interesting, right. It would
be tough to get donkeys here, and

1118
01:33:00,199 --> 01:33:06,319
I live on although it's part of
England, which is called the New Forest

1119
01:33:06,399 --> 01:33:12,279
in this county of Hampshire. It
well, so anyways, raise donkeys.

1120
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:16,239
The donkeys are owned by farmers and
stuff, but they're allowed to roam free

1121
01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:25,640
and walk the streets. Really yeah
cool. The other thing you have to

1122
01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:33,119
realize where we live it has owned
agriculture slash residential, so agriculture takes precedence

1123
01:33:34,159 --> 01:33:38,319
over people. So you could put
it. You could have a donkey and

1124
01:33:38,439 --> 01:33:43,199
I can't say anything to you.
Wow. Okay, all right, I've

1125
01:33:43,199 --> 01:33:46,479
seen again in the Challenger first,
but then the donkey is probably right after

1126
01:33:46,520 --> 01:33:50,960
it. One one I see everywhere. It's really weird. Run ninety five

1127
01:33:51,039 --> 01:33:54,800
and like ten of them went by
us. You know what I mean like

1128
01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:57,840
a like a like a you know, cat club or something, you know

1129
01:33:57,880 --> 01:34:03,920
what I mean. Really, they
were heading to the service department because their

1130
01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:12,680
dodges listen. So I've introduced everyone
we'vet so raven. So the cat is

1131
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:17,359
uh loo see with the with an
eye yes and a hot over the eye

1132
01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:23,520
dodding the eye right, how do
you know? How do you know that

1133
01:34:23,640 --> 01:34:28,079
the cat is going to give along
with your two dogs? Well, we

1134
01:34:28,159 --> 01:34:30,199
didn't. It was it was definitely, you know, a risk. She

1135
01:34:30,279 --> 01:34:34,960
had never ever seen dogs. Luckily, my dogs are like the chilliest.

1136
01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:40,640
Every Scotch just has like a touch
of anxiety. But you know, once

1137
01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:44,279
like he calms down, he's fine. And Ruby just like gets along with

1138
01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:48,680
everyone, like she's just a gentle
giant. So we kept him separated.

1139
01:34:48,720 --> 01:34:51,920
And then on Sunday night, that
was when we brought her home. Was

1140
01:34:51,960 --> 01:34:57,119
Sunday during the day, but Sunday
night she like just went downstairs all on

1141
01:34:57,239 --> 01:35:00,720
her own and was sniffing around the
dogs and kind of their noses and was

1142
01:35:00,760 --> 01:35:05,000
on the couch with us, and
she really didn't seem to care and neither

1143
01:35:05,079 --> 01:35:09,920
today, Well, everybody everybody fit
in together right away. That's amazing.

1144
01:35:11,039 --> 01:35:14,800
Now let me ask you, Irene. Everybody smell must have been just right.

1145
01:35:15,039 --> 01:35:18,479
Well you know how that goes.
You have a PhD in veterinary medicine

1146
01:35:18,680 --> 01:35:25,079
arena from the school, so let
me ask you this. Okay, So,

1147
01:35:26,079 --> 01:35:29,439
like, I hate to say it, but in my day, dogs

1148
01:35:29,800 --> 01:35:33,680
chased cats. Now you see a
lot of dogs get along with cats.

1149
01:35:33,720 --> 01:35:36,960
My brother sent me a video the
other day of his cat like and his

1150
01:35:38,079 --> 01:35:44,239
dog like. This is disgusting as
things change, because more people have like

1151
01:35:44,600 --> 01:35:47,920
dogs and cats in their house that
they're getting along now. And you know

1152
01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:50,479
in the past that you wouldn't have
a dog and a cat in your house.

1153
01:35:53,560 --> 01:35:56,880
Well, yeah, they're a lot
more peaceful nowadays. Oh really yeah,

1154
01:35:56,960 --> 01:36:00,880
yeah, the breeds. Yeah huh. Anyway, Wow, that's interesting.

1155
01:36:00,319 --> 01:36:04,079
Uh so they're all getting along?
Well, listen, talk about getting

1156
01:36:04,079 --> 01:36:08,039
along. I'm going to throw it
to doctor Bob. No, all right,

1157
01:36:08,159 --> 01:36:12,199
yeah, why don't we do this
network? Got a hairball? Sorry,

1158
01:36:14,399 --> 01:36:19,800
I hope it's a hopefully it's not
a cocker road now listen, hea,

1159
01:36:20,000 --> 01:36:28,600
where those two are. Listen,
I don't want to say cockroach and

1160
01:36:28,680 --> 01:36:31,199
a hairball together. If you had
a cat, maybe you wouldn't have cockroaches.

1161
01:36:31,199 --> 01:36:35,840
I don't know they chased. I'm
just not a cat person, you

1162
01:36:35,920 --> 01:36:39,800
know what I mean? There are
cat people. I'm not a cat person.

1163
01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:45,000
You've never met the right cat that
millions of freaking cat the same.

1164
01:36:45,000 --> 01:36:50,079
No, I think they're all snowing
you people feed me in. I want

1165
01:36:50,159 --> 01:36:54,159
one place to sleep. That's in
the one place to you know what,

1166
01:36:54,520 --> 01:36:58,199
And that's it that they don't.
They're not like dogs. You have to

1167
01:36:58,319 --> 01:37:01,079
know. You have to and meet
my cat. You can't. Are freaking

1168
01:37:01,159 --> 01:37:04,239
insane and you drive them crazy with
the laser beam. What do you tell

1169
01:37:04,239 --> 01:37:10,039
you about anyway? I didn't say
that. Don't you send the animal services

1170
01:37:10,119 --> 01:37:15,000
after him? Anyway? Doctor Bobon, Can everyone hear me? Yes,

1171
01:37:15,119 --> 01:37:21,640
yes, listen. So you had
an experience back late last year. We

1172
01:37:21,760 --> 01:37:25,119
don't have to get into what was
wrong with you, but you were in

1173
01:37:25,159 --> 01:37:28,680
the hospital and for a while you
had what you would describe as a NDN

1174
01:37:28,840 --> 01:37:36,720
near death experience. Nd Yes,
it was very strange and actually i've after

1175
01:37:36,880 --> 01:37:45,800
it happened at the University of Virginia
UVA. Okay, I had done some

1176
01:37:45,960 --> 01:37:50,680
research because it was so strange,
and they have a division of Perceptual Studies

1177
01:37:53,800 --> 01:38:00,239
and what happened to what I experienced
fit what they had described as an your

1178
01:38:00,319 --> 01:38:05,319
death experience. So I contacted them
and they had me right up, you

1179
01:38:05,359 --> 01:38:10,079
know, a detailed report and send
it to them. So they're I'm working

1180
01:38:10,159 --> 01:38:13,319
with them now and they're analyzing what
happened. So what happened? What did

1181
01:38:13,359 --> 01:38:17,359
you see? What what you basically
what it kicked it off? Is like

1182
01:38:17,439 --> 01:38:23,239
back in August, I had a
they found out a high p s A

1183
01:38:23,800 --> 01:38:30,279
score, you know, so I
uh had to have a prostate biopsy.

1184
01:38:30,039 --> 01:38:32,960
Go ahead, you have a procedure, Yes, yes, so I have

1185
01:38:33,399 --> 01:38:39,479
I go into the hospital in like
October, you know, and have this

1186
01:38:39,720 --> 01:38:45,039
experience. Have the procedure. Yes, yes, I go home and everything

1187
01:38:45,079 --> 01:38:48,720
seems all right, But it didn't. There was some side effense around.

1188
01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:55,319
Yes, yes, so there like
I couldn't urinate and all that. Yes,

1189
01:38:55,680 --> 01:39:00,239
there was like all that. What
he gets even better? Yep?

1190
01:39:00,279 --> 01:39:05,239
Go ahead, Okay, So I'm
seventy five years old. Okay, Okay,

1191
01:39:05,760 --> 01:39:09,800
it doesn't look seventy five. Doesn't
he look like he's like? Who

1192
01:39:09,960 --> 01:39:12,640
is it? Is? It?
Is it Michael Douglas or someone? What

1193
01:39:12,760 --> 01:39:16,439
does he look like? Robert de
Niro a little bit leah, you know

1194
01:39:16,479 --> 01:39:26,039
a little Yeah? Who who Brian
Cox? That show? Is he a

1195
01:39:26,119 --> 01:39:32,279
punch Irena? Do you think he
looks like anyone anyone famous Irena? Doesn't

1196
01:39:32,279 --> 01:39:36,439
he looks like Robert de Niro in
The Killers of the Flower Moon. There

1197
01:39:36,520 --> 01:39:41,760
you go, Robert, Okay,
not to interrupt your story, go ahead,

1198
01:39:42,039 --> 01:39:45,880
please talk to her anyhow. I
you know, I had the procedure.

1199
01:39:46,279 --> 01:39:49,399
Then I started having problems with it, so I had to go to

1200
01:39:49,520 --> 01:39:54,960
the hospital. So I go to
the Uh Luckily, it's only, like,

1201
01:39:55,600 --> 01:39:57,479
you know, a mile from where
I live. So I go to

1202
01:39:57,560 --> 01:40:00,840
the emergency road and they they check
it out, and they check things out,

1203
01:40:01,119 --> 01:40:05,239
and they had to put a cather
in. Oh boy, and that

1204
01:40:05,800 --> 01:40:10,960
that was painful. So then I
went home. But at least I could

1205
01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:17,079
relieve myself. Okay. So then
that stopped working, okay, and then

1206
01:40:17,640 --> 01:40:26,720
I had to go back. I'm
cringing a non functioning caster. How is

1207
01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:31,039
that possible? It's just all it's
I don't know. But I went back

1208
01:40:31,119 --> 01:40:35,880
into the scenario, back into the
emergency room, and the doctor who's in

1209
01:40:35,920 --> 01:40:39,960
the emergency room, they weren't just
ads anymore. She said, you got

1210
01:40:40,079 --> 01:40:48,399
to get that out of there immediately
she ain't it out. Oh everyone is

1211
01:40:48,560 --> 01:40:53,520
just saying all the males are anyway, go ahead, please, it's the

1212
01:40:53,600 --> 01:41:00,920
scariest story. But wait, wait, but wait this ball. I got

1213
01:41:00,920 --> 01:41:12,399
to the point where a balk another
I could walk like, and my legs

1214
01:41:12,439 --> 01:41:21,000
started spasming because of paint. So
they're giving me pain pills and so forth.

1215
01:41:21,079 --> 01:41:27,359
Like I even had two shots and
morphine. Oh you know, I'm

1216
01:41:27,640 --> 01:41:32,159
screaming. You know it's bad.
Go ahead, So two shots and morphine.

1217
01:41:32,279 --> 01:41:36,359
I had the Uh, now this
happened. This is strange, but

1218
01:41:36,479 --> 01:41:41,479
this happened October thirty. First.
Then when I was really in bad shape,

1219
01:41:42,119 --> 01:41:45,800
I really thought I was gonna die. Yes, so I called my

1220
01:41:45,960 --> 01:41:47,840
daughter and I said, you know, I loved her, and I really

1221
01:41:47,880 --> 01:41:51,000
thought. I said, man,
I think I'm going to die. Pain

1222
01:41:51,159 --> 01:41:58,119
is there shaking, you know,
my legs are spasming. So they finally

1223
01:41:58,159 --> 01:42:01,880
give me a different kind of pain
pill. It looked like a little those

1224
01:42:01,960 --> 01:42:10,960
little cinnamon tarts candies you get on
Valentine's Day or whatever. They gave me

1225
01:42:11,119 --> 01:42:16,439
one of those. So later on
that evening. This is now October thirty

1226
01:42:16,560 --> 01:42:28,479
first, yes, and I have
this like this experience now this is a

1227
01:42:28,600 --> 01:42:31,119
nice one of the top hospitals in
the country. Yes, yes, And

1228
01:42:31,720 --> 01:42:36,359
I have this experience where I'm walking
around the hospital and I just have that

1229
01:42:36,479 --> 01:42:41,720
you know, that hospital down one
and that's it. And it's not you

1230
01:42:41,800 --> 01:42:45,119
know, because I'm holding a bag, you know, a cap. I

1231
01:42:45,199 --> 01:42:49,000
hope this isn't where I think it's
going. Go ahead, But I'm walking

1232
01:42:49,119 --> 01:42:56,079
around my experiences. I'm walking around
the hospital and I'm walking into other people's

1233
01:42:56,199 --> 01:43:00,479
rooms asking them how they're doing.
Wow, okay. I'm going myself as

1234
01:43:00,520 --> 01:43:06,760
doctor gross and I'm like you you
are a doctor, wow okay. And

1235
01:43:06,960 --> 01:43:13,279
I'm going down these really really long
halls. I know the hospital doesn't have

1236
01:43:13,479 --> 01:43:16,359
these hospitals and I led that hardly
any clothes on, and they're letting me

1237
01:43:16,680 --> 01:43:21,079
do this, okay, of which
I'm thinking, you know, So I

1238
01:43:21,199 --> 01:43:25,920
keep walking and the nurses are saying
hello to me in I'm asking your house

1239
01:43:26,239 --> 01:43:30,520
this test work on and this person
I'm introducing myself and everything, and you

1240
01:43:30,600 --> 01:43:34,039
know, it's again, these halls
were really long, and there was I

1241
01:43:34,079 --> 01:43:38,920
could tell there's like a little bit
of like fog or smoke in the hall,

1242
01:43:41,279 --> 01:43:45,079
and so so then I went I
must have I went back to my

1243
01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:49,520
bed, and the next morning,
you know, I got up and uh,

1244
01:43:49,800 --> 01:43:53,880
I mean there were some other things
that were just bizarre with nurses and

1245
01:43:53,920 --> 01:43:56,439
stuff, and and they're saying like, if you don't behave we're gonna put

1246
01:43:56,439 --> 01:44:02,319
the cather back in things. Little
things, but anyhow, so I started.

1247
01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:06,399
The strange thing was then after that
when I went went home, and

1248
01:44:06,520 --> 01:44:14,279
even before I went home, I
started having all this energy and I started

1249
01:44:15,479 --> 01:44:20,359
like my brain was working faster than
it had ever worked before. Really yeah,

1250
01:44:20,520 --> 01:44:25,039
huh. I started like, you
know, I had a book in

1251
01:44:25,199 --> 01:44:29,479
progress that I was working on that
I was drafting. Yes, and like

1252
01:44:29,920 --> 01:44:32,920
after that that that next morning,
this was like November one. I didn't

1253
01:44:33,000 --> 01:44:38,760
feel groggy, and I had my
whole all my mental functions seemed to be

1254
01:44:38,920 --> 01:44:43,840
enhanced. It felt like I was
I was doing things quicker, I was

1255
01:44:43,920 --> 01:44:46,880
thinking deeper into stuff. And I
went home and it was you know,

1256
01:44:47,479 --> 01:44:50,560
after I went home, then they's
things started to clear up. It look

1257
01:44:50,600 --> 01:44:55,279
a long while before there were any
problems, and I had to document everything.

1258
01:44:56,000 --> 01:45:00,880
And then that's when I started doing
the research on what could have happened.

1259
01:45:00,520 --> 01:45:05,920
And I did some research on this
near death experience. It was called

1260
01:45:06,560 --> 01:45:12,760
and I contacted the University of Virginia, okay, and I described basically what

1261
01:45:12,920 --> 01:45:15,960
happened and they and then they told
me to write a report on it,

1262
01:45:15,920 --> 01:45:19,359
and I did, and they said, you know, it could be that

1263
01:45:19,479 --> 01:45:25,560
I had a near death experience.
And once they have all the doctors analyze

1264
01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:28,640
that, they're going to get back
to me. Okay, But can I

1265
01:45:28,760 --> 01:45:34,319
just interrupt you for a second.
Sure now, most people did that experiences

1266
01:45:34,359 --> 01:45:39,159
that they they go towards the light
and they seek with amire and stuff.

1267
01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:45,479
You're walking down the hall with the
with with with with the bag and everything,

1268
01:45:46,439 --> 01:45:49,079
with the fog too, with the
fig. I saw the fog.

1269
01:45:49,239 --> 01:45:54,840
I didn't see myself with the bag
and going into people's rooms, but I

1270
01:45:55,000 --> 01:46:00,439
saw the nurses. I saw these
really long haulsa is a security is is

1271
01:46:00,479 --> 01:46:02,399
a video of this. That was
fun. A little bit of fun,

1272
01:46:02,439 --> 01:46:05,239
A little bit of fun, that's
all. Okay, Well that's interesting,

1273
01:46:05,239 --> 01:46:10,119
okay. And then you came back
and came back to the living, right,

1274
01:46:11,279 --> 01:46:14,199
Yeah. I came in like the
next morning, you know, I

1275
01:46:14,600 --> 01:46:17,640
was back from wherever I was,
yes, and you know, and then

1276
01:46:17,680 --> 01:46:21,680
I started thinking, Man, I
had all this energy and my mind was

1277
01:46:21,800 --> 01:46:25,520
like racing, Why why was that? Do you think? Why do you

1278
01:46:25,560 --> 01:46:28,760
think that happened to you? Well, when I did the research on a

1279
01:46:28,840 --> 01:46:31,800
near death experience, they said that
could be that's part of a near death

1280
01:46:31,920 --> 01:46:40,520
experience from the they that was from
the Division of Perceptual Studies from the University

1281
01:46:40,840 --> 01:46:47,000
of Virginia in West Yeah, what
University of Virginia. They I fit the

1282
01:46:47,439 --> 01:46:55,399
the characteristics of what would have happened
for a near death experience. But it's

1283
01:46:55,399 --> 01:47:00,359
almost like now I can't stop working. I seriously, I've got six books

1284
01:47:00,640 --> 01:47:08,039
that I've drafted since the end of
October six and I've been finding like,

1285
01:47:08,079 --> 01:47:12,680
when I have a research problem that
I can't solve, I can find the

1286
01:47:12,840 --> 01:47:16,159
source. I know exactly where to
go to the source to find the answer

1287
01:47:16,920 --> 01:47:21,600
to what I'm researching. Well,
can answer, please, very familiar.

1288
01:47:23,479 --> 01:47:30,119
That sounds like a diagnosis that I've
heard from a viagra overdose. Sometimes if

1289
01:47:30,119 --> 01:47:33,479
it's over three hours, you're going
to go to the hospital. There's something

1290
01:47:33,520 --> 01:47:40,760
you heard about the hang out.
Well, I'm very big and viagraa overdose

1291
01:47:40,800 --> 01:47:53,640
once and a cat couldn't even scratch
what happened to me? Wow? Wow,

1292
01:47:54,359 --> 01:47:58,239
Okay, honestly, Like I said, I've never felt that much pain

1293
01:47:58,319 --> 01:48:01,680
in my life. Okay, and
not till this moment. Okay, Yeah,

1294
01:48:01,720 --> 01:48:09,039
did the vision go blue at all? List might effect your blue vision?

1295
01:48:10,760 --> 01:48:15,840
I did? Well? It was
okay, I hope. I think

1296
01:48:15,920 --> 01:48:18,039
I might have been changing around a
nurse or two that really? Yeah,

1297
01:48:18,079 --> 01:48:23,039
see that's what? Is there any
security footage of this? You had your

1298
01:48:23,760 --> 01:48:30,960
your little gown on backwards? Well
you know it happens either way either way.

1299
01:48:31,680 --> 01:48:38,680
Wow, hit the end of that
tube on the catheter? Would yank

1300
01:48:38,840 --> 01:48:45,119
be back? Okay, listen maybe
on that switch? Please put up the

1301
01:48:45,840 --> 01:48:56,239
train wreck as quickly as possible here. Yes, we're gonna but well that

1302
01:48:56,359 --> 01:49:00,720
took a turn, that tender turn. That okay, So the other reports

1303
01:49:00,760 --> 01:49:06,600
we will do next week, okay, okay, doing the music show.

1304
01:49:06,640 --> 01:49:10,640
You're not doing this show. We
don't know yet. Right now, all

1305
01:49:10,680 --> 01:49:14,199
the wind is get to the gallley
and get into a jag and ginger as

1306
01:49:14,199 --> 01:49:17,520
it turns out. Look, thank
you very much for joining us. We

1307
01:49:17,600 --> 01:49:20,600
had a real gang tonight, Irena. Thank you very much for joining us.

1308
01:49:20,640 --> 01:49:25,720
We really appreciate it. Well,
thank you for having me and very

1309
01:49:25,760 --> 01:49:32,560
interesting stories that too crazy one way
to put it, Irena, do you

1310
01:49:32,680 --> 01:49:35,800
know a lot about birds? I
have a lot of questions about birds.

1311
01:49:36,960 --> 01:49:44,159
My sister's a talented bird watcher with
really good eyes. Really yeah, yeah,

1312
01:49:44,359 --> 01:49:47,119
I think birds have very kind of
pequ the behavior. How did they

1313
01:49:47,239 --> 01:49:50,760
know? How did they know?
Like, for instance, in where we

1314
01:49:50,880 --> 01:49:55,840
lived, there's like you can tell
a flock of what are the chicken diese

1315
01:49:55,880 --> 01:49:59,520
or something? Those brown things those
brown right, yeah, like you know

1316
01:49:59,640 --> 01:50:02,359
small darlings or you're talking, there's
a lot of stylings. There's a barrows

1317
01:50:02,600 --> 01:50:06,920
sparrows, and the morning does always
find around. How do they know each

1318
01:50:06,960 --> 01:50:12,039
other? Because a sparrow doesn't know
what it looks like, you know what

1319
01:50:12,079 --> 01:50:14,279
I mean? How do they know
the other sparrows? Do we know?

1320
01:50:16,960 --> 01:50:24,319
They smell? They sniff each other
dogs. It must be some kind of

1321
01:50:24,399 --> 01:50:30,119
orientation the something Hi. Maybe they
speak the same language. They cheap,

1322
01:50:30,359 --> 01:50:33,439
they cheap. They know exactly where
they're going to go, answers when they're

1323
01:50:33,479 --> 01:50:35,800
going to go, and who's going
to be the leader. They're really smart.

1324
01:50:35,960 --> 01:50:40,279
They know they know what looks good
to them, and they know whether.

1325
01:50:41,159 --> 01:50:44,239
But how does it? How does
I'm just asking a simple question.

1326
01:50:44,640 --> 01:50:47,760
How does a little bird, any
kind of bird know that they're not How

1327
01:50:47,800 --> 01:50:50,720
do they know they're that type of
bird? And not as How does a

1328
01:50:50,840 --> 01:50:55,199
crow not know it's a seagull because
the crow doesn't know what it looks like.

1329
01:50:56,159 --> 01:50:58,760
Crowds are really smart, though they
might. You know, Let's take

1330
01:50:58,800 --> 01:51:04,279
a dumb bird, then you see
the reflections in a bird path. Thank

1331
01:51:04,279 --> 01:51:11,319
you, Switch Irana, Thank you
for joining us. Really appreciate it.

1332
01:51:11,960 --> 01:51:16,560
I'm sorry. I'm sorry that I
insulted you that said you were in England.

1333
01:51:20,399 --> 01:51:24,520
Why not? They're all gone anyway, so why not? Thank you?

1334
01:51:25,000 --> 01:51:29,800
Weird. What's the name of your
book again on Amazon? Please Beyond

1335
01:51:29,960 --> 01:51:33,880
Reasonable Doubt? And the other one
is Beyond Past Jules Beyond Wow. Huh

1336
01:51:34,079 --> 01:51:39,760
okay, it sounds really great.
Yeah, it's a really interesting abduction story.

1337
01:51:40,119 --> 01:51:42,520
Like I said, it's hung around
for many years and that means there's

1338
01:51:42,520 --> 01:51:45,159
something So what Thank you, Ryan
Ren. We appreciate it. Now we're

1339
01:51:45,199 --> 01:51:48,680
going to have to say goodbye to
doctor Bob. Wow, doctor book.

1340
01:51:49,239 --> 01:51:56,479
You you were the prescription very interesting
evening. I was going to say,

1341
01:51:56,520 --> 01:52:00,800
you have the prescription we needed to
get through the night and the stuff you

1342
01:52:00,840 --> 01:52:05,479
were talking about earlier that like expands
your consciousness and you know, you get

1343
01:52:05,479 --> 01:52:09,520
a little buzz off and send it
to me in one one. Okay,

1344
01:52:09,680 --> 01:52:13,920
we'll be fun. It'll be in
the trial. I'll send it by flying

1345
01:52:14,039 --> 01:52:16,920
pigeon. Well you just have to
find a long haul. But will it

1346
01:52:17,119 --> 01:52:19,520
No, it's a pigeon. Will
know it's a pigeon, and might know

1347
01:52:19,560 --> 01:52:24,119
it's a seagull. Who knows?
Thank you, doctor Bob. We appreciate

1348
01:52:24,199 --> 01:52:28,760
it. Welcome Susan Kay. We
have to say good night to you.

1349
01:52:28,920 --> 01:52:33,600
Susan Kay. All right, thank
you for having so nice to be here.

1350
01:52:33,800 --> 01:52:38,760
Did you have fun? Nice to
see you, Susan. Did you

1351
01:52:38,800 --> 01:52:43,960
have fun, Susan? I always
have fun looking forward to this all day.

1352
01:52:45,239 --> 01:52:47,600
Well, thanks for joining us.
We appreciate and then we're going to

1353
01:52:47,680 --> 01:52:57,319
go to Club Club in one for
a very informative show tonight. I'm grand

1354
01:52:57,439 --> 01:52:59,920
master. The show is going to
go to the Donkeys tonight. Did you

1355
01:53:00,039 --> 01:53:01,800
now we don't know, like the
Bob really set it off at the end,

1356
01:53:04,159 --> 01:53:11,319
it went in many different directions.
Well, thanks to dreading us.

1357
01:53:11,399 --> 01:53:16,159
We appreciate it. We'll talk to
you very so. Okay, have to

1358
01:53:16,199 --> 01:53:20,800
say goodbye to Alan. The cast
started. We call him I tell you

1359
01:53:20,880 --> 01:53:25,600
it's time to time to roll.
I just wanted in the immortal words of

1360
01:53:25,720 --> 01:53:33,199
Groucho Marx, ahead via duck,
why not a chicken? Steve gets it?

1361
01:53:33,600 --> 01:53:38,359
Okay for a joke down in West
Virginia. What do you expect?

1362
01:53:38,560 --> 01:53:40,880
Okay? Anyway, what did it
say? It again? It again?

1363
01:53:41,079 --> 01:53:45,520
Via duck? Why not a chicken? Via duck? Someone said to him.

1364
01:53:45,640 --> 01:53:48,159
You get down by the via duck
and turn you go via duck,

1365
01:53:48,680 --> 01:53:53,119
chick. A chicken must be ant's
back. You get down to the levee.

1366
01:53:53,640 --> 01:53:57,439
Yes, because I'm not even going
to go there because it will get

1367
01:53:57,439 --> 01:54:01,560
me in trouble. But okay,
okay, on that note, thank you,

1368
01:54:01,680 --> 01:54:05,399
well, thanks for having me.
Man. There's the time to go.

1369
01:54:05,960 --> 01:54:11,640
Yeah? Should we do? Yeah? Should we say? Should we

1370
01:54:11,720 --> 01:54:15,840
call David? Just you gotta call
up, you gotta call up. It's

1371
01:54:15,880 --> 01:54:18,520
almost eight. Okay, we'll see. Let's see it. The burgers are

1372
01:54:18,600 --> 01:54:24,399
on the grill and the Yeah,
Jack and Cocus is grady to be poor

1373
01:54:24,640 --> 01:54:28,479
Jack and ginger? You walk in
Jack and used to work. Okay,

1374
01:54:29,159 --> 01:54:32,640
so that's oh wow. We'll look
at the sum reason we're looking at mahomes

1375
01:54:32,760 --> 01:54:35,640
his wife. You asked me what
she looked like, okay, all right

1376
01:54:36,039 --> 01:54:42,239
and you said mister ed and it
was really full anyway, Thank you.

1377
01:54:42,680 --> 01:54:45,720
Elsie's wife is going to look a
little bit like Taylor Swift. You know.

1378
01:54:46,520 --> 01:54:49,439
It evens up and the end.
I'm sorry, I'm trying to get

1379
01:54:49,479 --> 01:54:55,640
the same. Good night to Raven. Raven. Sorry, well, thank

1380
01:54:55,640 --> 01:54:57,720
you so much for having me.
I appreciate it. Had fun. Are

1381
01:54:57,760 --> 01:55:01,640
you happy? Yeah? Okay,
all right? Thank you? In Lucy,

1382
01:55:01,800 --> 01:55:04,960
thank Is she around? You want
to put her on the cameras camera

1383
01:55:05,039 --> 01:55:09,880
shine sleeping? She's sleeping in front
of my desk on her little cat tree,

1384
01:55:09,920 --> 01:55:14,039
sleeping right in front of me.
Was she walking down the street go

1385
01:55:14,199 --> 01:55:18,159
some place together? We went to
a shelter together. Does she have a

1386
01:55:18,279 --> 01:55:26,880
backstory? Does she have? I
think she was uh in a litter of

1387
01:55:27,039 --> 01:55:30,479
one of the cats at the shelter. Okay, and she's get sick like

1388
01:55:30,600 --> 01:55:33,720
only like six months old, the
six toes edyone explaining that or is there

1389
01:55:35,199 --> 01:55:39,279
that's common in cats? I think
she has seven on her front paws and

1390
01:55:39,520 --> 01:55:45,720
six on her back. She's got
lots of you always needs some exer.

1391
01:55:46,319 --> 01:55:51,479
That's all, big thumb. Thank
you very thank you, Switchy for joining

1392
01:55:51,680 --> 01:55:56,840
switchy is going to put my pleasure. Okay, all right, okay in

1393
01:55:56,920 --> 01:56:02,000
what you have today are the low
cow five acount pancakes and bacon. I

1394
01:56:02,199 --> 01:56:06,359
forgot. I didn't have these scrambled
eggs, didn't he It's lunch, right,

1395
01:56:06,439 --> 01:56:10,720
you have to kind of sacrifice.
Okay. Did they know what length

1396
01:56:10,840 --> 01:56:16,000
is down there south of the border? What's that? Anyway? Thank you

1397
01:56:16,119 --> 01:56:20,159
one? What border? You know? What? One? One? Thanks

1398
01:56:20,199 --> 01:56:25,960
for joining us. We appreciate you're
welcome. Okay, all right, yeah,

1399
01:56:26,039 --> 01:56:29,520
yeah, okay, we'll talk to
you soon. And uh still,

1400
01:56:29,680 --> 01:56:32,279
what we're gonna do is the place
homes for our troops. Homes for a

1401
01:56:32,359 --> 01:56:39,560
Truce is an organization that raises money
for veterans after of combat, after nine

1402
01:56:39,600 --> 01:56:43,760
to eleven. They build them homes
that are more adaptable whatever kind of injury

1403
01:56:43,840 --> 01:56:46,880
that they got in combat. So
in other words, lower counter space,

1404
01:56:47,399 --> 01:56:50,520
not a lot of stairs, things
like that. They build them these homes

1405
01:56:50,920 --> 01:56:55,319
and then they when they're finished,
they rip up the mortgage, give them

1406
01:56:55,319 --> 01:56:59,279
the key. It's their homes forever. These are people who you know,

1407
01:56:59,439 --> 01:57:02,479
we all want and this is the
way that you can help them. HOMESHRUT

1408
01:57:02,520 --> 01:57:08,279
troops just google them see what they're
about, ninety nine ninety cents of your

1409
01:57:08,439 --> 01:57:13,720
charity, DOMA goes right toeve Veterans, homestrud troops. And also we have

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to remember every week that John McCain
was not someone that you make fun of.

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He's a way hero, he's a
disabled veteran. You don't make fun

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01:57:21,359 --> 01:57:26,800
of people like that. So Antelle
Harris next time, this is Mac for

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the entire gang, And there is
a gang tonight saying be safe, be

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happy, and bye bye. Hey
Mac maloney fans, this is Pistol Pete

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01:57:39,000 --> 01:57:43,520
and I'm sitting here with the one
and only Mac Maloney. Hi, Mac

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01:57:43,680 --> 01:57:45,840
HiPE. Now, Mac, you've
got a new book out called how to

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01:57:46,000 --> 01:57:50,079
Dump a Body at Sea and Not
Get Caught that you wrote with our pal,

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01:57:50,239 --> 01:57:55,079
famous crime novelist Mark Zappula. How
did this whole thing come about?

1419
01:57:55,319 --> 01:57:58,840
Well, Mac and I have this
mutual friend that we go out having beers

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01:57:58,880 --> 01:58:00,840
with every once in a while,
and he had the same twenty stories that

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01:58:00,880 --> 01:58:03,399
he would tell us kind of over
and over again, and at some point

1422
01:58:03,439 --> 01:58:05,880
I said, you know, we
should write these down, and we did

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01:58:06,000 --> 01:58:10,119
and it turned into a book.
It's such a crazy title. How'd you

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01:58:10,199 --> 01:58:11,800
come up with it, Well,
kind of the same thing. We're in

1425
01:58:11,920 --> 01:58:14,880
the talking to this friend of Oz
one night and he just said, you

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01:58:14,960 --> 01:58:16,279
do know how to get rid of
a body sea and I can taught,

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01:58:16,640 --> 01:58:20,000
And of course we didn't know,
and so he told us. And the

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01:58:20,079 --> 01:58:23,560
secret is in the book. But
I can say that it involves a lot

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01:58:23,560 --> 01:58:27,800
of chainling fence and some crabs.
Now, Mac, you gave me an

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01:58:27,800 --> 01:58:30,479
advanced copy of the book, and
like I said before, it's one of

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01:58:30,520 --> 01:58:33,199
the funniest things I've ever read.
It reminded me of the Sopranos if the

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01:58:33,279 --> 01:58:38,319
Sopranos had a laugh track. Thanks
pet. But it also gives you instructions

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01:58:38,359 --> 01:58:43,039
on how to do some pretty shady
stuff, stuff not exactly legal. Well,

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01:58:43,159 --> 01:58:45,039
yeah, the book is about the
true life adventures of a Drumnout de

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01:58:45,079 --> 01:58:49,159
Linklin grown up in Boston in the
late nineteen eighties, so you get a

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01:58:49,199 --> 01:58:51,800
lot of the inside stuff, like
the best way to steal a car,

1437
01:58:53,199 --> 01:58:56,199
the best way to burn a ca, how to make fake ideas, things

1438
01:58:56,279 --> 01:58:59,119
like that. But in one chapter
you actually tell people how to turn an

1439
01:58:59,159 --> 01:59:02,880
old, broken down Toyota into a
brand new Rolls Royce in five easy steps,

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01:59:03,119 --> 01:59:05,880
and it actually works. Yeah,
I know it's not crazy. I

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01:59:05,880 --> 01:59:09,520
didn't believe it until I saw the
proof, but yes, it actually works.

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01:59:09,640 --> 01:59:12,319
Now, one last question. There's
a lot of laughs in the book,

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01:59:12,439 --> 01:59:16,359
but also a lot of pretty crazy
stuff, legal and illegal. Is

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01:59:16,439 --> 01:59:21,159
it really all true. It's really
all true, but on the advice of

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01:59:21,239 --> 01:59:25,840
a publisher, they've asked us not
the same thing beyond that for legal reason.

1446
01:59:25,960 --> 01:59:29,680
But yes, it is all true. Well thanks Mac. That's how

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01:59:29,760 --> 01:59:32,920
to dump a body at sea and
not get caught, The Al Ferrari story

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01:59:33,159 --> 01:59:38,560
by Mac and crime writer Mark Zippula. Get it today on Amazon.
